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therock003
Probe
Posted: 27 May 2008
07:08 GMT
Total Posts: 9 | I have downloaded vti and TiEmu but they dont seem to have emulation support for the nspire.Do you know of a way to emulate this calculator? |
BrandonW
Goliath
Posted: 27 May 2008
07:18 GMT
Total Posts: 100 | No, we know very little about this calculator. We can't even run code or get access to its memory, let alone a ROM dump or any of the hardware documentation we'd need to write an emulator.
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therock003
Probe
Posted: 27 May 2008
08:22 GMT
Total Posts: 9 | Have you managed a dump though?Are the tno and tnc files on the official website dumps,or plain updates?
So you're basically telling me there's minimal progress so far...
Thanx for getting me up to date man. |
tifreak8x
Administrator
Posted: 27 May 2008
11:18 GMT
Total Posts: 419 | Pretty much, nothing is known about this calculator, except for a few problems with the 84+ emulation. The Nspire is still a mystery, and will undoubtable remain that way for a while longer (read, months, to years?)
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therock003
Probe
Posted: 27 May 2008
11:28 GMT
Total Posts: 9 | I see,and while we're on the subject,what are the differences between the nspire cas and not cas,and the ti89 titanium? |
BrandonW
Goliath
Posted: 27 May 2008
20:06 GMT
Total Posts: 100 | No, we don't have dumps. The TNO and TNC files are encrypted OS images, which we can't decrypt.
The Nspire CAS is similar to the 89Ti. The Nspire is similar to the 84+/SE.
The difference is that the Nspires are terrible calculators and the others aren't.
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therock003
Probe
Posted: 28 May 2008
02:47 GMT
Total Posts: 9 | Would you care to collaborate on that?I mean its the nlatest (and supposedly the latest) while ti-89 and 84 have been out for years.
I just got myself the ti-89 and at the same time found out of the existance of the nspire and i wondered if i could have done better. |
BrandonW
Goliath
Posted: 28 May 2008
04:13 GMT
Total Posts: 100 | They're bulky, hard-to-use learning tools that try to accomplish the same tasks as the others, but mask it all in complicated menus. They bring nothing to the table, and their OSes are incomplete and still being worked on. No coding or applications are possible, at least not yet. I could get into details, but then I'd have to pick it up, and I'd rather not.
You couldn't have done better.
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therock003
Probe
Posted: 28 May 2008
04:51 GMT
Total Posts: 9 | Their harware specs though are obviously more advanced,but other than that i can see that they're still experimental when they lack all the things you mentioned. |
tifreak8x
Administrator
Posted: 28 May 2008
07:18 GMT
Total Posts: 419 | Yeah, they should have stayed in development until they managed to make them easier to use. If nothing else, they should have given them to some college classes to try to use, and did some feedback, etc for them...
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therock003
Probe
Posted: 28 May 2008
07:23 GMT
Total Posts: 9 | That's sad,and they look so next gen!The ROM/RAM specs make all the difference.
NSpire 16MB/20MB
Ti-89 Titanium 2.7MB/188K
Anyway thanx for your help guys. |
john777
Ultralisk
Posted: 3 Jun 2008
20:14 GMT
Total Posts: 289 | I think that the NSpires will be much more popular with younger students taking algebra, geometry, and per-calc type courses. They present a very good visualization of the functions and shapes, which I think is importatnt for those classes. But I do agree that the menus are kind of a hassel compaired to the 84's set-up we are all used to. At least for now I think that they are better for younger students untill people get to know them better and they get more funtionality. |
haveacalc
Guardian
Posted: 3 Jun 2008
22:40 GMT
Total Posts: 1111 | Nspires are bad for everyone because TI's protected them from ASM developers.
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allynfolksjr
Administrator
Posted: 4 Jun 2008
19:15 GMT
Total Posts: 1892 | I totally agree with haveacalc's statement.
TI certainly took a step backwards with the Nspire. :( |
BrandonW
Goliath
Posted: 5 Jun 2008
07:19 GMT
Total Posts: 100 | Just like the other calculators, they supply the hardware and get it to the masses, that's all I care about. It's going to have to be up to us to get it to do what we want it to do.
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allynfolksjr
Administrator
Posted: 5 Jun 2008
14:13 GMT
Total Posts: 1892 | Maybe TI is continuing their internal betting pool on what the community can do to their hardware.
So maybe intentionally crippling it for fun? :) |
BrandonW
Goliath
Posted: 5 Jun 2008
18:00 GMT
Total Posts: 100 | Yeah, but this is not Steve and Hank's USB printer, this is a lot of time and money put into making it unbreakable. The developers have spoken out as saying they don't like it being so locked down, but that's what they're paid to do. |
allynfolksjr
Administrator
Posted: 5 Jun 2008
18:23 GMT
Total Posts: 1892 | And probably in TI's best interest to lock it down, now that calculators have become so pervasive in schooling throughout the United States in both classrooms and testing... if they were to continue to keep around a "hacking" community, and tacitly encouraging it, that would force schools and other administrative agencies to encourage adaption of another company's locked down system. :) |
BrandonW
Goliath
Posted: 7 Jun 2008
14:03 GMT
Total Posts: 100 | Yeah, when we finally do get into it, this is not going to be like ZShell and lots of publicly-released programs based on bugs TI doesn't bother to fix...it's going to be like the PSP, a constant cat-and-mouse game, so until we get our foot in the door with it, things are probably going to stay secret. But that's just my prediction. |
haveacalc
Guardian
Posted: 7 Jun 2008
19:59 GMT
Total Posts: 1111 | In response to an email that I sent to TI about a year ago, Doug Fincher told me that they were still debating whether or not they would release an SDK for the Nspire family. My guess is... no.
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BrandonW
Goliath
Posted: 7 Jun 2008
20:27 GMT
Total Posts: 100 | An SDK for an interpreted language more powerful than BASIC, yes. They will NEVER allow native code to run. Never.
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allynfolksjr
Administrator
Posted: 8 Jun 2008
16:28 GMT
Total Posts: 1892 | Never never? |
BrandonW
Goliath
Posted: 8 Jun 2008
21:02 GMT
Total Posts: 100 | Never never. |
me2
Goliath
Posted: 10 Jun 2008
11:52 GMT
Total Posts: 171 | e-mail me a copy of those tnc and tno files, and i'll see what i can do
My e-mail is: analystjr@aol.com
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BrandonW
Goliath
Posted: 10 Jun 2008
16:27 GMT
Total Posts: 100 | If you can't even find them yourself on education.ti.com, I highly doubt you're going to decrypt them... |
me2
Goliath
Posted: 25 Jun 2008
11:35 GMT
Total Posts: 171 | I could find them, I just don't feel like doing it on my SLOW modem internet
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