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1337h4kor
Wraith
Posted: 7 Oct 2007
19:19 GMT
Total Posts: 612 | Ok what's you're favorite Browser. Mine is Firefox.
Here's a break down of the speeds whilst on Dial Up 28.8 Kbps.
Page used 'www.yahoo.com'
Browser Time to upload one page.
Firefox 1.1 minutes
IE 2.3 minutes
Avant 1.6 minutes
Netscape Didn't have so I have no info on it.
Opera Didn't have so I have no info on it.
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ryantmer
Wraith
Posted: 7 Oct 2007
20:07 GMT
Total Posts: 692 | Ugh... browser wars again? |
threefingeredguy
Ghost
Posted: 7 Oct 2007
20:21 GMT
Total Posts: 1189 | Everyone knows Opera is the best.
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Lunchbox
Carrier
Posted: 7 Oct 2007
21:00 GMT
Total Posts: 2007 | If by everyone you mean a cage full of crack-addicted, quadriplegic chimps, then yes. If not, then you should run the following regular expression on your post: s/opera/mozilla firefox 2\.0/i. |
threefingeredguy
Ghost
Posted: 8 Oct 2007
07:30 GMT
Total Posts: 1189 | You going by speed or what? I doubt you're going by speed.
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threefingeredguy
Ghost
Posted: 8 Oct 2007
07:33 GMT
Total Posts: 1189 | 
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allynfolksjr
Administrator
Posted: 8 Oct 2007
10:05 GMT
Total Posts: 1892 | Opera is superior in every way.
In fact, even Internet Explorer 7 is better than Firefox. |
Zachary940
Wraith
Posted: 8 Oct 2007
11:49 GMT
Total Posts: 714 | I agree Opera is so much better than FF and IE7. It has everything that a good web browser should have. Including spellcheck.
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Barrett
Administrator
Posted: 8 Oct 2007
12:04 GMT
Total Posts: 1676 | I agree Opera is so much better then FF and IE7. It has every thing that a good web browser should have. Including spell check.
(I'll let "every thing" slide since it still makes sense as two words).
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Lunchbox
Carrier
Posted: 8 Oct 2007
13:18 GMT
Total Posts: 2007 | FF has spell check, and it works quite well. As for speed, my Firefox client is modified for superior speed and has outstripped opera on my machine. As for memory usage, is that with all browsers doing the exact same thing (i.e. displaying the same page and nothing else)? Even if it is, I have two gigs of RAM for a reason: to use it. If I have to piddle away a meager amount to get better load times and a better layout, that's fine by me. Which is why I like FF better. Plus, look at the logos. Firefox wins that one by a long shot.
Btw 3fg, I counter your Task Manager pic with one of my own:
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threefingeredguy
Ghost
Posted: 8 Oct 2007
14:03 GMT
Total Posts: 1189 | Why look which one was the lowest still. Plus if your firefox is optimized for speed, what features did you remove?
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Zachary940
Wraith
Posted: 8 Oct 2007
14:05 GMT
Total Posts: 714 | NOT VISTA. Please anything but vista.
Yes FF does have a good spell checker. I just prefer Opera. I feel like I can do more while I do less. I enjoy using the hot keys rather then remembering or bookmarking URLs. Same thing with the crappy IRC client it has. I will admit L you are right about the logo.
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CoffmanRunner
Ultralisk
Posted: 8 Oct 2007
14:19 GMT
Total Posts: 235 | FF is my fav because of my add ons that i use like stumble upon - how else would i spend my countless hours??? I have oprea but it doesn't really have "add ons"
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allynfolksjr
Administrator
Posted: 8 Oct 2007
14:42 GMT
Total Posts: 1892 | The stupid "2GB of ram" argument is pretty much refuted when you realize that many of us (including myself) have that amount in multiple computers, and still choose to use Opera. For us the RAM usage is just a secondary benefit to an already superior browser. |
Lunchbox
Carrier
Posted: 8 Oct 2007
16:29 GMT
Total Posts: 2007 | Allyn: Define superior.
3fg: I am well aware that Opera is still the lowest. I took/edited the picture myself. My point was that your previous picture is a mite disproportionate for comparison purposes. An approximately 4,600K difference in memory matters far less than a 25K+ difference. And when I say I optimized it, I mean I tweaked the settings on the about:config page to allow for faster downloading of webpages. |
1337h4kor
Wraith
Posted: 8 Oct 2007
16:38 GMT
Total Posts: 612 | Ok FF pwns all of them. The upload time and download time is greater than all others. The only thing that I have Opera on is my NDS. FF is always coming up with new add ons. I still have to say oh well memory leaking isn't that you get better downloads, a cooler layout, less likely to get hacked, better security, java fun, easier to set things, better drag and drop bookmarks, easier to clear history, just press SHIFT+CTRL+DELETE, and when you close it you can automatically set the history to clear. One more thing, the options are much easier to optomize. So there FF is worth the major memory leak. I've said it. Plus it evenly distributes the bandwidth evenly between the tabs. Also you can easily view code.
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allynfolksjr
Administrator
Posted: 8 Oct 2007
17:35 GMT
Total Posts: 1892 | Lunchbox: I suppose "faster" and "better standards support" would be how I define superior. Not to mention Opera really has been groundbreaking in new features that firefox adds later in insecure 3rd party "extensions." |
1337h4kor
Wraith
Posted: 8 Oct 2007
17:41 GMT
Total Posts: 612 | I see how it is just ignore posts made by the topic starter. Well whatever I've been ignored before. Code viewer is awesome. But I see how you all just ignore me.
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Barrett
Administrator
Posted: 8 Oct 2007
17:47 GMT
Total Posts: 1676 | IE is by far the best
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Kevin
Guardian
Posted: 8 Oct 2007
18:23 GMT
Total Posts: 1390 | I like Opera the best. It only crashed 4 times in the year I used it, while Firefox 1.x and 2.x crashed every 20 or 30 minutes the entire time I used it and took insane amount of RAM. As for IE I only use it when a site doesn't work in Opera and I avoid using it for browsing the web because it is still more vulnerable to spywares than the other browsers. It's also much slower than Opera and Firefox, but more stable than Firefox
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1337h4kor
Wraith
Posted: 8 Oct 2007
18:26 GMT
Total Posts: 612 | Lies all lies. You lie. IE is very boring. I hate IE. I got on the FF train when I first herd about. IE is way to buggy. Also IE is to basic, no Source code viewer function. I love that source code function. FF has only crashed once on me. IE has crashed I believe about twelve times whilst I used it. FF is very stable, encryption is awesome. As for Opera, like I say haven't tried it as a main browser. As the wise man says 'If it aint broke, don't fix it.' So there FF isn't broke, and Opera is apparently in its 9th version. FF is only on its 2nd version so if you compare it that way then by the time FF is in the 9th version, it'll pwn All others even more so then it already does. Plus the Java console is easier to find and activate.
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Kevin
Guardian
Posted: 8 Oct 2007
18:28 GMT
Total Posts: 1390 | IE has a source code option (Display->Source).
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1337h4kor
Wraith
Posted: 8 Oct 2007
18:34 GMT
Total Posts: 612 | Yeah but it isn't very easy to access. On FF you just press CTRL+U and it's just there.
Oh, yeah are you Kevin O. (Can't spell last name because can't remember alt letters' code)
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allynfolksjr
Administrator
Posted: 8 Oct 2007
18:38 GMT
Total Posts: 1892 | Viewing source is stealing. |
1337h4kor
Wraith
Posted: 8 Oct 2007
18:41 GMT
Total Posts: 612 | How is viewing stealing. So you're saying that every person who ever looked at the code of a TI BASIC program or any other that wasn't there own stole the code. Huh?!? I ask you that. I was just talking about viewing source as learning HTML the easy way. I've never actually used any of the code my self. So Whatever.
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allynfolksjr
Administrator
Posted: 8 Oct 2007
18:45 GMT
Total Posts: 1892 | Thief. |
Kevin
Guardian
Posted: 8 Oct 2007
18:52 GMT
Total Posts: 1390 | lol nikky is trying to pwn you. And I am Kévin O indeed, I used to post here back in 2003 and 2005 I just came back recently (altough I was still active on another TI/music forum) Atm I am working on Metroid II Expansion Set
EDIT: after re-reading the first post how avant can load pages faster than IE, considering avant use IE engine?
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1337h4kor
Wraith
Posted: 8 Oct 2007
19:06 GMT
Total Posts: 612 | Allyn:Then you're a thief too. I'm sure that you've looked at source code before. because I'm sure that one day that you didn't just one day wake up with the knowledge to program. If you've ever programmed in any language and looked at source code then you also are a thief. So ha you're in the same boat that I'm supposedly in. If I'm a thief then you're the king of the Thieves
Kevin: You're the reason that I started to program. Loved both Rueben games. Zelda game was adequate. You pwn all other programmers in TI BASIC but of course this is only my opinion.
Edit: Never mind the remainder of this post.
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allynfolksjr
Administrator
Posted: 8 Oct 2007
19:06 GMT
Total Posts: 1892 | That's a good question... and I don't know. Maybe Avant has some optimizations in there.
I've never looked at the source of anything in my life. |
1337h4kor
Wraith
Posted: 8 Oct 2007
19:09 GMT
Total Posts: 612 | allyn: You're still the King of Thieves. So hah.
Edit: Avant claims to be the most optimized and fastest browser in the world. So I tried it. Was disappointed by outcome.
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ryantmer
Wraith
Posted: 8 Oct 2007
19:16 GMT
Total Posts: 692 | 1337h4kor:
Lesson: Nikky (allynfolksjr) is a troll. We are all proud of our resident troll. However, he may sometimes project information that is not neccessarily true.
Looking at source code is no different than reading a book. You are free to do so, but copying it is illegal.
Soon, you will learn to discern between "serious comments" and "what Nikky says". Hint: "what Nikky says" is usually posted by Nikky. |
allynfolksjr
Administrator
Posted: 8 Oct 2007
19:21 GMT
Total Posts: 1892 | I'd listen to ryantmer, or he'll ban your ass. |
1337h4kor
Wraith
Posted: 8 Oct 2007
19:24 GMT
Total Posts: 612 | Oh ok. He just infurates me so much. Ok so the troll rule still applies right?
NEVER LISTEN TO WHAT TROLLS SAY!
So that still applies, ok that makes me a little happier. Thank you ryantmer. I'm still a N008 when it comes to programming on the Calc and also on the forums as is indicated by my number of posts.
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1337h4kor
Wraith
Posted: 8 Oct 2007
19:38 GMT
Total Posts: 612 | Ok Well I guess that my N008ness will always precede me until I advance beyond it in this area. Well now I know and can remember. And ryantmer I never copy only look and attempt to learn from it.
Edit: I already know how to do that. I just waited for someone to respond. I responded and then i noticed the post of someone else and then I posted new thing. I'm just really lazy and that's basically it. As you could tell from previous posts I can use 'Edit' button.
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ryantmer
Wraith
Posted: 8 Oct 2007
20:45 GMT
Total Posts: 692 | All-new offer! Get -10 n00bness for learning how to use the edit button! Limited time!
Also, I was not saying you copied it. I was saying that copying it is stealing, not that you do copy it. |
Lunchbox
Carrier
Posted: 8 Oct 2007
20:49 GMT
Total Posts: 2007 | Viewing a website is stealing. In fact, by merely looking at CG you are guilty of Grand Theft Code and therfore owe me your life and all your earthly posessions. But, I digress. As for speed, I have already made my argument. As for "better standards support", I have heard this, but it makes very little difference on my end. So, for now, I'll stick with the better-looking one with the better logo. |
Barrett
Administrator
Posted: 8 Oct 2007
20:50 GMT
Total Posts: 1676 | IE is way better than all of those other ones.
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1337h4kor
Wraith
Posted: 8 Oct 2007
20:52 GMT
Total Posts: 612 | Please state the actual law stating previously said statement. Also say when it was passed, who passed it, what countries it applies in, finally why would browsers put view source option if illegal.
Edit: Once again. Lies Barret. IE is but one of the mistakes that Bill has made during his life here is a short list of the major ones.
IE, Windows ME(BSOD in a box), Windows workgroup, Windows Vista (BSOD in a box) ahh the flash backs.
*Flashes back to year 200 AD*
What BSOD? Computer 'Reseting all memory.
NOO. NOoo.
*Returns.*
Vista is the major one obviously, Major RAM killer.
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ryantmer
Wraith
Posted: 8 Oct 2007
22:33 GMT
Total Posts: 692 | I'm guessing you're on Windows.
tsk, tsk, tsk... |
threefingeredguy
Ghost
Posted: 9 Oct 2007
10:36 GMT
Total Posts: 1189 | So L, what did you do to make FF go faster, increase the number of connections it makes to a page? That may load faster for you but it puts heavier strain on the server. It's also still not going to render any faster because you're just altering how long it takes to get the data which isn't part of the browser's speed capabilities. You can change that in any browser.
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1337h4kor
Wraith
Posted: 9 Oct 2007
15:36 GMT
Total Posts: 612 | Are you talkin to me then ans is yes. Mainly because I'm cheap like that.
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allynfolksjr
Administrator
Posted: 9 Oct 2007
19:14 GMT
Total Posts: 1892 | IE7 base is equal to or better than Firefox base on a Windows computer. To argue this would be silly. |
1337h4kor
Wraith
Posted: 9 Oct 2007
19:59 GMT
Total Posts: 612 | I'll still argue it. I've optimized mine though. I've configured everything. It's now much better then all others but who cares about the memory leak, just upgrade to at least a gig of RAM, increase Page File. And bam like magic you know have an awesome browser. So ha. FF is much better than IE7 when FF is configured by the user. IE7 can't be configured that easily so FF is the clear winner in that statement that you have just previously just made.
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Lunchbox
Carrier
Posted: 9 Oct 2007
22:35 GMT
Total Posts: 2007 | Something like that, but the main problem in a dorm of nearly a thousand people (or more), especially when you're trying constantly to work around the bandwidth limit, is gonna be actually accessing the site and getting the content, not how fast it is rendered. Render times are about as pertinent to me as volcano eruptions. And yes, it may make additional strain on the server, but most servers aren't working near their full capacity at almost all times of the day, so I really don't feel too bad about that. So, once again, I will conclude, in an exacerbatingly explicit way, that Firefox is
browser. Please don't make me use the large, bold, brightly-colored, blinking marquee ever again. |
1337h4kor
Wraith
Posted: 10 Oct 2007
15:45 GMT
Total Posts: 612 | I'm glad to see that one is with me. Nice marquee. Hahaha. Haha Firefox has to win. I mean honestly just look at that marquee, It already won but now it's pwning like it's the first tournament of Halo 3, and N008s have finally bought it and think that they can just pick up controller and start to game. So ha. Thanks Lunchbox for that marquee, now fire fox beats you all. hahahahahahahahahahahahaaha.
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Lunchbox
Carrier
Posted: 10 Oct 2007
19:06 GMT
Total Posts: 2007 | Not really. I guess you didn't bother to read my post deeply enough, 1337h4kor, but the point I was trying to get across is that we should be arguing which browser we like best and why, not which is the "overall best". |
1337h4kor
Wraith
Posted: 10 Oct 2007
19:14 GMT
Total Posts: 612 | I still lub Firefox and it is the best.
"If I had to be used by people to look up random crap and load stupid things, then I'd be Firefox." Oscar Wilde on his favorite browser
That's right Even Oscar is with us Lunchbox. Muhahahaha
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Lunchbox
Carrier
Posted: 11 Oct 2007
11:37 GMT
Total Posts: 2007 | I'm guessing you got that from EncyclopediaDramatica? |
WCM2010
Dragoon
Posted: 11 Oct 2007
14:06 GMT
Total Posts: 95 | time to place my unwanted oppion(couldnt spell it =/) =]
Fire Fox Fire Fox Fire Fox Fire Fox
^ hopefully u understand lol ^
I hve tried IE 7 and FF 2 and i like fire fox better..
I havnt tried the others tho
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allynfolksjr
Administrator
Posted: 11 Oct 2007
14:17 GMT
Total Posts: 1892 | 100% of people who try Opera immediately fall in love with it and subsequently refuse to touch firefox ever again. |
