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djgustashaw
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Posted: 21 Aug 2003
15:37 GMT
Total Posts: 14
well, i learned alot in my first thread. so much, in fact, that all of a sudden i'm the calc expert in my class... go figure. everyone wants me to put games on their calcs.

one guy has a TI-86. we obviously can't link my 83 to his 86, so im gonna take his home over the weekend and download some 86 games for him, hopefully.

i have a few uncertainties, though. can i use my silver usb cable with his TI86? also, does the TI86 require an app like mirageOS or ion to run games? if so, which one do you guys recommend? thanks!
allynfolksjr
Administrator
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Posted: 21 Aug 2003
15:53 GMT
Total Posts: 1892
cables run the same for every calc...about the shells...i think you do need them...i did the same thing for someone in my class as well...get 'em at ticalc.org
allynfolksjr
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Posted: 21 Aug 2003
15:54 GMT
Total Posts: 1892
but i think the 86 has no FLASH (ARC) so you need a ION type thing
Barrett
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Posted: 21 Aug 2003
15:57 GMT
Total Posts: 1676
rascall is what i think it's called. (most downloaded on ticalc.org)

but of course it depends on the game... some games need it, others don't

here's a link

[Edited by Barrett on 22-Aug-03 01:22]

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djgustashaw
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Posted: 21 Aug 2003
16:21 GMT
Total Posts: 14
thanks. i checked out ticalc.org's shells for the 86, and it turns out zshell is for the ti-85. so should they all do the job about the same, or are there any that are really good for the 86?

[EDIT] - also, does anyone know of a tetris knockoff for the 86? they dont have any exact tetris clone at ticalc.org.

[EDIT2] - thanks barret, just saw your post update about the shell.

[Edited by djgustashaw on 22-Aug-03 01:24]
zkostik
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Posted: 21 Aug 2003
19:30 GMT
Total Posts: 2486
Yes, Rascall is the best shell for 86. At least its my favorite. You can download it from out Programs -> TI-86 section.If you need further help with it, just post here.
EDIT: Exact tetris clone for 86 would be Ztetris. You can get a copy from [HERE]. I'll also add it to our archive sometime later.

[Edited by zkostik on 22-Aug-03 04:32]

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djgustashaw
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Posted: 22 Aug 2003
13:30 GMT
Total Posts: 14
i'm having some problems getting TI connect to connect to the 86. i go to the device explorer, and after it tries to connect for awhile it gives up and opens my communication settings. the ti-86 is nowhere in the drop down menu for what calculator you're using. it has the 73, 83, 83+, 89, and 92, but no 86. how lame. anyway, are there any 3rd party programs i can use to connect and transfer? thanks.
heythere
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Posted: 22 Aug 2003
16:17 GMT
Total Posts: 4
use the CD you got with your Cable...and install Graphlink...it's easy to use...but if it doesn't work, on STart>Tigraphlink start blacklink, it might slove your problem
spiral
Wraith
Posted: 23 Aug 2003
03:45 GMT
Total Posts: 958
BTW, most games for the 86 don't require shells.

Oh, and if you have an 89, there is a program that allows you to store programs for any other calculator on it.
zkostik
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Posted: 23 Aug 2003
18:50 GMT
Total Posts: 2486
Hey jgustashaw,
You can download TI GRaph Link 86 from TI's (go to education.ti.com and then get to their software downloads) website or any linking program from ticalc.org's archive that supports 86 (they have a bunch).

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BullFrog
Wraith
Posted: 23 Aug 2003
19:58 GMT
Total Posts: 623
No, the 86 does not need a shell for running games and such. It just makes it nicer. ^ - ^ Without the shell, just put asm( on the homescreen followed by the game/program. Rascall off of ticalc.org is the best one for the 86.

Check the other thread for info on the using the USB and 86. *TiLP does work.*

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"Men are not prisoners of fate, but only prisoners of their own minds." -Franklin D. Roosevelt
djgustashaw
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Posted: 24 Aug 2003
15:13 GMT
Total Posts: 14
thanks guys. i've got everything working well on his 86 now. i'm using rascal and the macintosh OS 9 version of TI connect to transfer... it's really handy having both a pc and mac to use!

btw, the TI-86 is a kickass calculator... not as fast as my 83 SE, but geez this thing does a TON of cool stuff... and all of the game's graphics are much better!
zkostik
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Posted: 24 Aug 2003
16:23 GMT
Total Posts: 2486
Oh man, 86 is a great calc. Too bad TI stopped supporting it. Its the only that that has flickerless grayscale after TI released 89 HW 2. Its also very customizable and has many good games for it. I really hate its menus though...other than that i'd probably put it on second place after my 89.
Oh yes, you gotta try Maze-3D which can be found in ticalc.org's TI-86/Assembly/Games section.

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djgustashaw
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Posted: 24 Aug 2003
18:55 GMT
Total Posts: 14
i'll be sure to check out maze-3D. i even asked my friend if i could buy this thing from him- he's actually never used it in a math class, but it turns out he's borrowing it from his stepbro so he can't sell it. also, i kinda like the menu system. really easy to fly thru stuff once you get used to it.

the one thing that i really like about the 86, though, is the equation solver. is there an application for the 83+/SE that can do the same thing? it would be invaluable to save time in AP calc. i checked all the "official" apps at TI's own site and couldnt find anything. i asked about this at TI's own forum, but it doesn't exactly seem to be a fast-moving place... i may be waiting for awhile on an answer there. so does such a thing exist? thanks!

[Edited by djgustashaw on 25-Aug-03 03:58]





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