--- Log opened Wed Jan 28 00:00:08 2009
--- Day changed Wed Jan 28 2009
00:00 < jackmcbar> make it hide itself from apps menu while running
00:00 < BrandonW> It's very hard to hide a single application like that.
00:00 < BrandonW> You'd have to rebuild the entire menu.
00:00 < BrandonW> Which goes against the way it currently works.
00:00 < jackmcbar> oh
00:01 < BrandonW> If I could do stuff like that I'd make it really smart, like hide only RAM variables or archived variables or whatever from the Mem Mgmt/Del menu.
00:01 < jackmcbar> and can it really do anything about a ram clear? since it goofs something in ram up that needs to be ramcleared to fix
00:01 < BrandonW> What do you mean by can it do anything about a RAM clear?
00:01 < jackmcbar> if it fakes a ram clear
00:02 < jackmcbar> doesnt it screw something in ram up? acronym, three letters, starts with v
00:02 < jackmcbar> cant remember it
00:02 < BrandonW> Yes, it corrupts RAM.
00:02 < jackmcbar> so after i fake a ram clear, i have to do a real ram clear
00:02 < BrandonW> Yeah, it's a bug.
00:03 < BrandonW> Where it's more useful is if you archive everything of value, then install Fake, and then fake a full memory clear.
00:03 < BrandonW> Then you can do the key combination, reset RAM, and all your archived stuff is safe.
00:03 < jackmcbar> maybe add some delay loops to reset all as well
00:03 < BrandonW> Yes, I know there's a lot wrong with the application.
00:03 < BrandonW> But I don't have the time to revisit it, and the code is pretty ugly.
00:03 < BrandonW> If I did come back to the idea, I'd rewrite it.
00:04 < BrandonW> To be much smarter than it is.
00:07 < BrandonW> But I was amazed something as simple as "show the right reset text depending on the menu option you pick" didn't already exist.
00:07 < jackmcbar> btw do you have any other useful programs like Fake or patchptt?
00:07 < BrandonW> So that's why I wrote it in the first place.
00:07 < BrandonW> Everything I have is in http://brandonw.net/calcstuff/
00:07 < BrandonW> Unless you're an assembly programmer, there's probably not much of interest.
00:07 < BrandonW> Except for maybe msd8x/usb8x.
00:08 < jackmcbar> theres lotsa stuff there
00:27 < jackmcbar> does linkman work right (just for its use 1 in readme)
00:27 < jackmcbar> ?
00:31 < BrandonW> Yes, if I remember right.
00:31 < BrandonW> That was one of the first things to go in that folder.
00:35 < jackmcbar> should i use it or dislink just to block silent links?
00:36 < BrandonW> I'm sure it can handle doing that.
00:36 < BrandonW> Depends on whether you want a program or an application.
00:36 < jackmcbar> that the only real difference?
00:36 < BrandonW> If that's all you care about, yes.
00:36 < jackmcbar> k
00:36 < BrandonW> Hooks in applications are more stable.
00:37 < jackmcbar> what do you mean?
00:38 < jackmcbar> not reset by ram clear?
00:39 < BrandonW> Hooks from programs have to be placed in RAM which is going to get cleared by other assembly programs and stuff.
00:39 < BrandonW> Hooks in applications are safe.
00:39 < BrandonW> So use the application.
00:39 < jackmcbar> ok
00:39 < jackmcbar> is it 1 app slot btw?
00:39 < BrandonW> Anything 16KB is one app slot, yes.
00:40 < jackmcbar> k
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00:52 < BrandonW> "Well, Pam, which way you headed?" "Right." "Ah, that's a shame." "Why?" "Well, because we're going left. It was a 50/50 shot on whether you'd be going left or right. You could have just as easily been going left, and if that were the case, it would've been a while before you started getting scared. But since you're going right...I'm afraid you're going to have to start getting scared immediately."
00:55 <+DrDnar> lmao, what's that from?
00:55 < BrandonW> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RitLYSwGV-w Death Proof.
01:03 < BrandonW> It's a good movie if you can survive the second part of it.
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02:06 < jackmcbar> BrandonW: can the stuff in OSkill.txt be reversed with a new os send?
02:07 < BrandonW> Yes.
02:07 < jackmcbar> k
02:07 < BrandonW> That file's old, too.
02:07 < BrandonW> There are shorter sequences.
02:07 < BrandonW> Easier-to-remember ones.
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03:25 < jackmcbar> bug in Fake.  i can still see programs after faking mem clear
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04:58 <+DrDnar> I especially love it when Dolphin says the emulated CPU speed is greater than my actual CPU speed.
04:58 <+DrDnar> 4,000 MHZ I wish.
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06:57 <@efneTI92> [Netham45] Narf!
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15:02 < jackmcbar> will linkman set to stealth mode keep testguard from clearing my stuff?
15:10 < BrandonW_> I don't remember, but there's a program, tg2.zip or something, which will do exactly that.
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15:23 < jackmcbar> also, did pttu work at all?
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15:29 < BrandonW_> I very much doubt it.
15:36 < jackmcbar> wouldve been nice if it did. let the teacher really put it in ptt, they can test it, then you plug in just a wire and youre back
16:06 < jackmcbar> hmm
16:06 < jackmcbar> now i see where my groups went
16:06 < jackmcbar> ptt still kills them
16:22 < jackmcbar> i see on your forum something about converting them to programs, or clearing vat
16:22 < jackmcbar> got anything that can do that?
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19:24 < jackmcbar> BrandonW_: will the program in tg2.zip's silent link hook conflict with LinkMan's hook?
20:45 < Tari> most likely
23:20 < jackmcbar> BrandonW_: you there?
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