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00:09 < SirCmpwn> gtg cya l8r
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00:32 < krisk> faggots read harry potter
00:32 < krisk> i read biggles when i was a kid
00:33 < krisk> and buck danny comics
00:34 < TD-Linux> asmand, custom wiring necessary?
00:35 < TD-Linux> you use chdk remote triggering right?
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00:54 < efneTI92> [KermM] http://www.cemetech.net :: Leading The Way to the Future
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04:01 < Genolo> ffffffuuuuu
04:01 < Genolo> it broke because i forwarded port 80
04:01 < Genolo> and my isp blocks it apparently?
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04:11 <@nikky> KERMM YOU STUPID PIECE OF CRAP REVIEWING EVERYONE ELSE
04:12 < incubus> wtf?
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04:14 < bsparks> if there ever was an XKCD game it'd have to be designed similar to how Comix Zone was, in that you play IN a comic and everything is drawn.
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04:34 < Grue_> Borked bits.
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04:53 <+ports> hrm
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05:57 < Barrett> so... I scored a goal today in soccer
05:57 < Barrett> first time I've scored on any intramural team (and I've been on 3)
05:57 <@nikky> yay!
05:57 <@nikky> yay!
05:57 < Barrett> Why is this so amazing?, you might ask
05:57 <@nikky> What position?
05:57 <@nikky> Defender?
05:57 < Barrett> I play goaly
05:57 <@nikky> Or goalie
05:57 < Barrett> goalie
05:57 <@nikky> ah
05:57 < Barrett> and I scored on a goal kick
05:57 <@nikky> What a champ
05:57 < Barrett> upper-V
05:57 <@nikky> nice
05:58 < Barrett> (fields are only like 60 or 70 yards)
05:58 <@nikky> I played forward but didn't score too much
05:58 <@nikky> I usually set up assists for faster players
05:58 <@nikky> er, not faster
05:58 <@nikky> but better under pressure
05:58 < Barrett> haha
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05:59 <@nikky> when charging the goal, I tended to panic
05:59 < Barrett> that's what she said
05:59 < Barrett> about you
06:00 <@nikky> haha
06:04 < Jonimus> Barrett: nice, I used to play goalie a bit also
06:04 < Jonimus> but I never was really any good at any position
06:04 < Barrett> ah
06:04 < Barrett> yeah, I used to be somewhat good at it back in the day
06:05 < Barrett> I'm not all that horrible now... but not as good as I was
06:05 < Barrett> when I was smart enough to keep it a secret, I played midfield and forward... that was more fun
06:05 < Barrett> but I wasn't as good
06:06 < Barrett> nikky, want to try my app again?
06:07 <@nikky> fine
06:07 <@nikky> same url?
06:07 < Barrett> not yet
06:07 < Barrett> but it will be
06:07 <@nikky> k
06:07 <@nikky> tell me when
06:08 < Barrett> now
06:08 <@nikky> k
06:09 <@nikky> link again?
06:09 < Barrett> http://lbarrettanderson.com/Pong.apk
06:09 <@nikky> I cleared the cache on my hone
06:09 <@nikky> thx
06:09 < Barrett> now why would you do a thing like that?
06:09 < Barrett> do you live at home?
06:09 < Barrett> do girls check your phone's history?
06:10 <@nikky> no, I pressed it by accident
06:10 < Barrett> ah
06:10 <@nikky> and it doesn't have a confirmation dialog
06:10 <@nikky> for some reason
06:11 <@nikky> I see a ball
06:11 <@nikky> and sites
06:11 <@nikky> sidesand a sqare translucent panel
06:11 <@nikky> that doesn't really do anything
06:11 < Barrett> is it moving steadily? bouncing?
06:11 <@nikky> yes
06:11 < Barrett> does the paddle go where you press on the screen?
06:11 <@nikky> yes
06:11 <@nikky> the framerate isn't that bad
06:11 < Barrett> smooth animation?
06:11 < Barrett> sweeeeeeet
06:11 <@nikky> er, it is bad
06:11 < Barrett> GAH
06:12 <@nikky> maybe 6fps
06:12 < Barrett> :(
06:12 <@nikky> I could take a video
06:12 <@nikky> like tomorrow
06:12 < Barrett> it's supposed to be 30fps
06:12 < Barrett> and I replaced the textured walls with straight up filled-in shapes... which should be much faster
06:12 < Barrett> why oh why does life hate me
06:13 <@nikky> dunno
06:13 < Barrett> my emulated G1 gets like 20 fps... and in my experience it's slower than a G1
06:13 < Barrett> (and by the way, my nexus one could easily get 150 fps)
06:15 <@nikky> Of course it could
06:15 < Barrett> I think I'll add a reporting tool again to upload more specific timings...
06:15 <@nikky> good idea
06:16 < Barrett> the problem may be how often I change the opengl settings... I do it every frame, 'cause it has to draw textured elements and just straight colored ones
06:17 < Jonimus> Hmm I might try that on my HTC touch if yo don;t mind Barrett?
06:17 < Barrett> go for it, that would be helpful
06:18 < Jonimus> Well you know android isn't native to my phone so it could just crash and burn
06:18 <@nikky> hah
06:20 < Jonimus> I still prefer WinMo to Android, and WinPhone7 looks pretty hawt as well
06:20 <@nikky> Hehe, winmo
06:20 <@nikky> They still make it?
06:20 < Jonimus> Yes, and WinPhone7 which is the next generation of it is already slated for a few devices
06:21 <@nikky> lulz
06:21 <@nikky> I kind of lump winmo with palm
06:21 <@nikky> and soon to be joining them, RIM
06:21 < Jonimus> though sadly since its an entirely new kernel back porting is not an option
06:21 < Jonimus> nikky: actually WinMo is still fairly alive
06:22 < Jonimus> it has a quite large and devoted community
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06:28 < Barrett> nikky, you want to try it again? just uploaded one that should be faster
06:28 < Barrett> you don't have to
06:29 < Barrett> but if you want, that would be sweet awesome
06:29 <@nikky> kk
06:30 <@nikky> much better
06:30 < Barrett> yeeessshhhh
06:30 < Barrett> I left blending turned on even when I was drawing things that didn't need to blend
06:31 <@nikky> I got the dock for my droid
06:31 < Barrett> is that just like a cradle?
06:31 <@nikky> yeah
06:31 < Barrett> what's it good for? play music?
06:31 < Jonimus> Barrett: I'll try it tomorrow and let you know how it runs on my meager hardware
06:31 < Barrett> or does it just connect the usb
06:31 <@nikky> looks good
06:31 <@nikky> connects to USB
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06:32 < Barrett> is the droid's usb port on the side?
06:32 < Barrett> oooh, that would be nice with my nexus one since I have an OLED screen and could easily leave it turned on as a clock
06:32 < Barrett> when I'm in bed
06:33 < Barrett> (the OLED being important since it won't be too bright)
06:33 <@nikky> that's what I do
06:33 < Barrett> I have traction in my pants
06:33 <@nikky> the multimedia mode has two settings
06:33 <@nikky> a brown bright one for daylight
06:33 <@nikky> and a really light blue for night
06:33 <@nikky> it's pretty awesome
06:34 <@nikky> the port is on the sid
06:34 <@nikky> side
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06:39 <@_Auron_> so uh
06:40 <@_Auron_> my date wasn't what I expected
06:40 <@nikky> how so
06:40 <@_Auron_> oh well, guess I'll go another year without dating
06:40 <@_Auron_> he's 40 but he looks 50
06:40 <@_Auron_> and he's very old fashioned
06:40 <@_Auron_> it was.. odd
06:40 <@nikky> weird
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06:49 <@_Auron_> claimed to be masculine but that's borderline
06:49 <@_Auron_> so, overall a nice guy, but the date was very awkward for me
06:49 <@_Auron_> and I'll be going another year without dating now
06:49 <@nikky> lame
06:49 <@nikky> kk
06:53 < i_c-Y> '.......................
06:53 < i_c-Y> arent youlike 21?
06:53 < i_c-Y> weirdo.
06:54 <@_Auron_> yes
06:56 < asmand> TD-Linux: no custom wiring
06:56 < asmand> TD-Linux: stock calc-calc cable
06:56 < TD-Linux> nice
06:58 < TD-Linux> asmand: what firmware?
06:59 < asmand> err.. does not comput
06:59 < asmand> e
06:59 < asmand> :)
06:59 < asmand> ti-86
06:59 < asmand> rom 1.3
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08:09 < Barrett> when java precompiles, what comes first, constants or comments?
08:09 < Barrett> (can I define something to be "//" and use that as sort of a debugger flag?)
08:10 < Barrett> oh wait... java doesn't really have those...
08:10 < Barrett> that's really lame
08:11 < Barrett> I guess I'll just do it with if statements
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08:50 < Spengo> http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/5250/spidermanirl.gif
08:50 < Spengo> D:
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09:39 < krisk> so yeah
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10:08 < efneTI92> [leofox] All we do in hell is play DDR!
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11:49 < efneTI92> [KermM] http://www.cemetech.net :: Leading The Way to the Future
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15:29 <+ports> hi
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17:24 < Jonimus> yay for proggy fonts, sadly foreign chars are not available :/
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18:43 <+ports> hi Barrett
18:44 < Barrett> hey ports
18:49 <+ports> sup
18:51 < Barrett> nuffern
18:52 <+ports> ok
18:52 <+ports> there i just secured my wifi
18:52 <+ports> i was just letting ir run wide open at my parents house
18:52 <+ports> didnt matter too much since no one was using it
18:56 <+ports> Barrett: are we facebook friends>?
18:57 < Barrett> I don't think so
18:57 < Barrett> oh my gosh
18:57 < Barrett> you know emily farlow and stephanie snell?
18:58 <+ports> what
18:58 <+ports> you dont know them, do you?
18:58 < Barrett> yeah I do
18:58 < Barrett> not in person
18:58 <+ports> lol how
18:59 < Barrett> I met them on isketch
18:59 <+ports> insane
18:59 < Barrett> years and years ago
18:59 <+ports> i went to elementary school with emily
18:59 <+ports> i lost touch with emily a long time ago... before high school.. but shes pregnant now
19:00 <+ports> emilys oldest sister was friends with my sister
19:00 < Barrett> I was being kind of flirty and got emily's AIM screenname... then I got stephanie's... chatted with them regularly for a little while... not recently, though
19:00 < Barrett> I was awesome 6 years ago
19:00 <+ports> lol
19:01 < Barrett> also I'm awesome now, because yesterday I scored on a goal kick
19:01 <@chronomex> Barrett++
19:01 <+ports> cool
19:01 < Barrett> the field is only like 60 yards long, but that's still pretty awesome
19:01 <+ports> Barrett: you found me quick on facebook
19:02 < Barrett> it wasn't a fluke, either... upper-V
19:02 < Barrett> yeah, 'cause we had 2 mutual friends
19:02 < Barrett> so you were first
19:02 <+ports> oh
19:02 <+ports> i forgot it sorts
19:02 < Barrett> at first I thought it was a different one of your name, 'cause there was no way you knew them
19:02 <+ports> usually it takes people a while to find me... because my profile is mostly hidden
19:02 <+ports> ah
19:02 <+ports> emily and i used to live in southern illinois..
19:02 < Barrett> also I figured you'd be friends with someone else in this channel that I'm friends with
19:03 <+ports> she moved in jr high..
19:03 <+ports> her parents got divorced
19:03 < Barrett> so how do you know stephanie?
19:03 <+ports> we were going to grow up together and be lawyers
19:03 <+ports> i dont know steph in person
19:03 <+ports> i used to talk to her and emily on AIM... i still keep in touch with stephanie
19:04 < Barrett> wow, they aren't friends anymore
19:04 <+ports> i might go out to Minnesota this summer to see her
19:04 <+ports> yeah.. they had some fight a while back
19:04 < Barrett> I mean, I knew they weren't really friends in person anymore, but not even facebook friends
19:04 <+ports> emily just decided to stop returning my messages one day..
19:04 < Barrett> lame
19:05 <+ports> no biggie
19:05 < Barrett> they were such good friends.. even got in a car accident together
19:05 <+ports> shit happens
19:05 < Barrett> played isketch together... so close
19:05 < Barrett> that was a fun game...
19:05 <+ports> lol
19:06 <+ports> dude
19:06 <+ports> that was more than 6 years ago wasnt it?
19:06 <@nikky> Man, Barrett is like the lamest guy ever.
19:06 < Barrett> something like that
19:06 <+ports> its closer to 9-10
19:07 < Barrett> no more than 8.... they're a little younger than me, and I'm 24
19:07 <+ports> theyre not yougner than you
19:07 <+ports> theyre the same age as me
19:07 <+ports> emily turns 24 in june i think
19:08 < Barrett> hence a little younger than me
19:08 <+ports> isketch was like early high school
19:08 <+ports> ive been out of college for 2 years.. + 4.. and i didnt drive back then.. so at least freshman year.. so +3
19:09 < Barrett> eh, I think it still exists
19:09 <+ports> long ago
19:09 <+ports> lol
19:09 <+ports> http://lifehacker.com/5475113/remains-of-the-day-why-piracy-works-edition
19:09 <+ports> that graph is a little misleading
19:09 <+ports> they should include torrenting, burning the dvd in the right resolution/format .. geting them media..
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19:10 < efneTI92> [JoeYoung] Just a calm day...
19:10 < Barrett> I've still got it
19:10 < Barrett> came in late, saw only part of the drawing, and got it first
19:10 < Barrett> and in fact the only one
19:11 <+ports> lol
19:11 < Barrett> also go tthe second one first
19:11 <+ports> anyone do chat roulette?
19:12 < Barrett> also got the 3rd one first
19:13 <+ports> k
19:14 <+ports> i have a $100 egift card to walmart
19:14 <+ports> meh
19:14 <+ports> i dont have enough stuff to buy online to use it
19:14 < Barrett> got the 4th one second
19:14 < Barrett> I am an isketch machine
19:15 <+ports> breathe
19:15 < Barrett> got the 5th one second
19:16 < Barrett> had I gotten to the rooom when the game started I would have won
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19:16 <+ports> Barrett: stop obsessing
19:17 <@nikky> Keep obsessing Barrett.
19:17 <+ports> im tempted to buy an ipod touch
19:17 <@nikky> You would.
19:21 <+ports> http://www.amazon.com/Interbath-All-Directional-Chrome-Showerhead/dp/B000HQV8BC/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1266693682&sr=8-3-fkmr0
19:22 <@nikky> http://www.everyfaucet.com/asp/superbrowse.asp?clid=625&caid=&sku=SHW1129&refid=AC76-SHW1129
19:23 <+ports> nikky: so?
19:24 <@nikky> I can link to random things too!
19:24 <+ports> im buying the shower head i showed
19:24 <+ports> i used one at the hotel this weekend and it was really nice
19:24 <@nikky> And I already have the one I linked to.
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19:25 <+ports> lies
19:25 <+ports> you linked to a catalog
19:26 <@nikky> Not from that website, of course
19:26 <@nikky> And I don't think that's the exact model
19:28 <+ports> ok
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19:32 <+ports> oh well Barrett
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20:12 <@nikky> Barrett: I figured out what was the sudden increase in bandwidth
20:12 < Barrett> what was it?
20:12 <@nikky> my feed reader
20:12 <@nikky> it was chcking a *lot* more often than I was led to believe
20:12 < Barrett> that's exciting
20:12 < Barrett> how often?
20:12 <@nikky> like every few minutes
20:12 <@nikky> a feed
20:12 <+ports> ?
20:13 <@nikky> and some of them are big feeds
20:13 < Barrett> don't they have a way to only get recent items?
20:14 <@nikky> nope
20:14 <@nikky> it pulls the whole .rss
20:14 <@nikky> and then reads it
20:14 < Barrett> ah
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20:14 < Barrett> have you done any socket programming?
20:14 < Barrett> well, nevermind... that wouldn't help...
20:15 < SirCmpwn> use google reader, it works quite well
20:18 <+ports> i dont like the keyboard on my dads laptop
20:18 <+ports> its curved
20:19 < SirCmpwn> O.o
20:24 <+jr19> ski jump is boring
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20:37 <+ports> green zone
20:45 < Barrett> what does it mean when the leaves on your plant get lighter?
20:46 < Barrett> i noticed it the day after I added fertilizer... could that have anything to do with it?
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20:50 <+ports> less chlorophyll
20:55 <+ports> jr19:
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21:07 <+ports> my family has destroyed my wii
21:07 <+ports> it makes an awful fan grinding noise
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21:28 <@nikky> google rader sucks
21:28 <@nikky> reder
21:28 <@nikky> reader
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21:30 < JoeYoung> nikky, why's that?
21:30 <@nikky> It does
21:30 <@nikky> It's google
21:30 <@nikky> root of all evil
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21:31 < JoeYoung> that's bs.
21:32 < JoeYoung> what's the real reason?
21:32 <@nikky> I don't like it
21:32 <@nikky> tinyrss is better
21:33 <+ports> Is it wrong of me to expect someone to shower daily (in the morning) and be better at grooming themselves?
21:33 <@nikky> Yes
21:33 <@nikky> You heathen
21:33 <+ports> nikky: Be serious.
21:34 < JoeYoung> Depends?
21:34 <+ports> JoeYoung: On what. Elaborate.
21:34 < JoeYoung> That's an odd question to ask while the answer is so obvious.
21:34 < JoeYoung> Unless there are certain circumstances that might excuse the individual?
21:34 <+ports> JoeYoung: Answer.
21:35 < JoeYoung> ports: No. Christ, stop being a goddamn retard.
21:36 <+ports> JoeYoung: You're being a retard by just not answering.. you could have avoided all of this 4 lines ago.
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21:39 < ports> thank you
21:39 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v ports] by efneTI81
21:39 <+ports> I asked a pretty direct question that had a yes or no answer.
21:40 < JoeYoung> Mhmm.
21:40 <+ports> nikky: I didn't ask for your personal philosophy on personal hygiene.
21:40 <+ports> My habit is to shower in the morning and brush my teeth... I don't eat or drink anything until I've showered and brushed my teeth. That's how I was raised.
21:41 <+ports> My girlfriend went out Thursday night, had her hair done up with hair spray, got drunk, puked, and went through all of Thursday night, and all of Friday... didn't shower till Saturday.
21:41 <+ports> Her excuse was that she didnt go anywhere out of the house on Friday.
21:41 <@nikky> Thank you for the context.
21:41 <@nikky> That is disgusting.
21:42 <@nikky> yuck
21:42 <+ports> That's how I feel about it.
21:44 <+ports> I don't think showering daily is a big deal... and I shouldn't have to ask someone to do it.
21:44 < JoeYoung> >_>
21:47 <+ports> Discuss.
22:01 <+ports> ok
22:08 < JoeYoung> no.
22:08 < incubus> You get used to the smell of BO
22:08 <+ports> no
22:11 <+ports> incubus: she normally cleans up nice when shes around me..
22:12 <+ports> it just bugs me that she doesnt put in that effort normally
22:13 < incubus> wait
22:13 < incubus> Your girlfriend smelled like BO?
22:13 < incubus> Wtf dude, that's disgusting
22:14 <+ports> incubus: i said she didnt...
22:14 <+ports> i havent seen her in a few days
22:14 <+ports> i was talking about her being lazy on friday.
22:14 < incubus> ports, you said she didn't smell?
22:15 <+ports> lol
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22:16 < incubus> btw
22:16 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v glk] by efneTI86
22:16 < incubus> You don't eat or drink UNTIL you brushed your teeth? wtf
22:16 < incubus> You're supposed to eat and drink, THEN brush your teeth
22:16 < JoeYoung> Yeah
22:16 <+ports> WHY?
22:17 <+ports> why would i eat with a dirty mouth, full of bacteria?
22:17 < incubus> ...
22:17 < incubus> Are you fucking kidding me?
22:17 * incubus does a rage flip
22:17 < JoeYoung> I do both
22:17 < JoeYoung> :(
22:17 <+ports> I understand about brushing and flossing before eating..
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22:17 < incubus> you are insane
22:17 <+ports> I'm talking about the first thing in the morning..
22:17 <+ports> err after eating
22:17 < incubus> ah ok :)
22:17 <+ports> brushing and flossing after eating
22:17 < incubus> I get up, shower, eat oatmeal, drink coffee, brush and mouthwash, then gum
22:18 < JoeYoung> I like to brush after I wake up, cause sometimes my mouth feels ugh.... then I do it after I eat so that I'm fresh for the rest of the day
22:18 <+ports> but im talking about first thing in the morning... do you eat, then brush your teeth when you wake up?
22:18 < incubus> yes
22:18 <+ports> yick
22:18 < incubus> So my breath doesn't smell like coffee
22:18 <+ports> I like my mouth clean before I eat..
22:18 < incubus> Also sulfide poisoning sucks
22:18 <+ports> especially if i was drinking the night before..
22:18 < incubus> er flouride
22:19 <+ports> incubus: keep trying words... youll be right eventually
22:19 < incubus> I think that's more psychological than practical
22:19 < incubus> Well there's sulfates in it too
22:19 <+ports> youd be surprised... ask around.. most people brush then eat in the morning
22:19 < incubus> I know
22:19 < incubus> I used to
22:19 < incubus> Then I realized it's counter intuitive
22:20 < incubus> Also note this, people use to share a toothbrush between their entire families. Even between college dormmates
22:21 <+ports> lies
22:21 < incubus> Truth.
22:21 < incubus> 1800s my friend
22:21 <+ports> beverly hills cops 3
22:21 <+ports> good movie
22:22 <+ports> its on now
22:22 < incubus> Eddie Murphy stopped making good movies :/
22:22 <+ports> incubus: OLD...
22:22 < incubus> wtf
22:22 < incubus> He's making BHC 4
22:22 < incubus> Win.
22:22 <+ports> common knowledge.
22:22 <+ports> but im talking about 3... wonder world bitch
22:23 < incubus> FFFffffuuuuu
22:25 <+ports> done
22:25 <+ports> end
22:25 <+ports> fin
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22:38 <+ports> agh
22:38 <+ports> i just ate something
22:38 <+ports> and have something stuck in my teeth
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22:43 <+ports> wow
22:43 <+ports> that commercial for Dantes Inferno was cool
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22:47 < Barrett> does tigcc support pthreads?
22:49 < i_c-Y> why the hell would you have pthreads on a ti89?
22:49 < Barrett> no idea, was just wondering
22:49 < Barrett> same reason you'd have it on anything else, I guess
22:50 < i_c-Y> you mean places where multithreading makes sense?
22:50 < Barrett> there are reasons for multithreading on an 89
22:51 < Barrett> heh
22:51 < Barrett> "- 15/11/2001, version 1.50_1.3.9:
22:51 < Barrett> 1096 Removed pthread support"
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23:05 <@_Auron_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bl8rLw40Mo
23:08 < Barrett> google freaks me out sometimes
23:08 < Barrett> I googled tigcc pthread
23:09 < Barrett> now gmail is giving me an ad related to that
23:10 < Tyler2> Google is pure evil
23:11 < Barrett> _Auron_, do I need sound to understand that video?
23:13 <+ports> lol
23:13 < Barrett> ah, yep
23:13 < Barrett> fail
23:13 < Barrett> I hate cats
23:13 < Randomist> Internet memes ruined it for you?
23:14 <@_Auron_> my sister recorded that earlier today, apparently
23:14 < Barrett> allergies
23:14 < Barrett> my eyes turn red and itch for the next 4 years
23:14 <@_Auron_> o.O
23:14 < Barrett> and I cry
23:14 < Randomist> My condolences.
23:14 <@_Auron_> 4 years? wtf
23:14 < Randomist> _Auron_: Exaggeration? :P
23:15 < Barrett> oh, _Auron_, you should check out my game
23:15 < Barrett> it isn't finished...
23:15 < Barrett> but let me know what you think, and if it works on your phone...
23:15 < Randomist> The HTML5 pong?
23:15 <@_Auron_> okay
23:15 < Barrett> http://lbarrettanderson.com/Pong.apk
23:15 < Barrett> Randomist, pretty much, but for android
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23:15 < Barrett> you can't lose or win or anything
23:15 < Barrett> but you can see the animation
23:15 < Barrett> and you can move the paddle
23:15 < Randomist> That explains the "Android package" file.
23:16 <@_Auron_> just installed
23:17 <@_Auron_> Barrett: heh did you use the canvas to draw those?
23:17 < Barrett> no
23:17 < Barrett> opengl
23:18 <@_Auron_> oh. it's not very smooth. o.O
23:18 < Barrett> you still have a G1, right?
23:18 <@_Auron_> yeah, but even stroids runs smoother than that
23:19 < Barrett> well, I think the slowdown may be because the textured elements need blend enabled (but I disable it while I'm drawing the walls, which are not textures, just 24 separate rectangles)
23:19 <@_Auron_> drawing time is at 66
23:19 <@_Auron_> which is slow
23:19 <@_Auron_> 66 average
23:19 < Barrett> are you looking at my debug println? or do you have a different method for that?
23:19 <@_Auron_> yeah, your debug
23:20 <@_Auron_> ran adb logcat
23:20 < Barrett> k... should be accurate, though
23:20 < Barrett> lame...
23:20 < Barrett> it used to be a lot worse
23:20 < Barrett> when the walls were a texture
23:20 * _Auron_ blinks
23:20 <@_Auron_> are you using fixed point or floating point?
23:20 < Barrett> no idea... the coordinates are floats, if that's what you mean
23:21 <@_Auron_> yeah, you're using floating point data
23:21 <@_Auron_> the CPU on almost all android devices does not have a FPU
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23:21 < Barrett> ooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhh
23:21 <@_Auron_> so it has to software convert to fixed point in runtime
23:21 < Barrett> dang. so pretty much they're just like a ti-89 and I should use integers
23:22 < Barrett> does opengl have a fixed point option?
23:22 < Barrett> (by the way, my nexus one is like 50x as fast as any other phone I've tried this stuff on)
23:22 < Barrett> including droid
23:23 < Barrett> and this one dude has a full-on chess board in 3D in his app, and it's really smooth... no idea how he did it
23:24 <@_Auron_> Barrett: yes
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23:24 <@_Auron_> instead of using GL_FLOAT you use GL_FIXED
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23:24 <@_Auron_> in parameters for i.e. drawing
23:25 < Barrett> _Auron_, do you have any free time these days?
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23:26 <@_Auron_> Barrett: not really
23:26 < Barrett> ah
23:26 <@_Auron_> :/
23:26 < Barrett> well, let me know when/if you do
23:26 <+ports> :>
23:26 <+ports> hi vonage
23:26 < Barrett> I was thinking about getting you in on this, and *if* I make a paid version, I'd give you a reasonable cut (up to 50%, depending on how much you do)
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23:26 <@_Auron_> the last time I coded, I managed to work with a friend and get 1000 objects to render at ~15FPS
23:27 <@_Auron_> which was two months ago
23:27 < Barrett> wow, textured?
23:27 < Barrett> or colored
23:27 <@_Auron_> textured, colored, rotating, and bouncing around the screen with random alpha
23:27 < Barrett> on a G1?
23:27 <@_Auron_> .. with software transforms in fixed point
23:27 <@_Auron_> yes
23:27 < Barrett> diablo
23:27 < Barrett> wow
23:27 <@_Auron_> lol
23:28 <@_Auron_> oh and randomly scaled too
23:28 < Barrett> by "objects"... do you mean planes?
23:28 <@_Auron_> yeah, sprites
23:28 < Barrett> plains? which spelling is it?
23:28 <@_Auron_> and also in orthographical rendering
23:28 <@_Auron_> planes; or just quads in this case
23:28 <@_Auron_> or triangle pairs (to make quads)
23:29 < Barrett> k, well, if you ever have time, I'm sure I could use your help
23:29 < Barrett> I don't have much
23:29 <@_Auron_> technically triangle pairs per 'object', so 2 polys per object, but with that amount of blending/etc heh
23:29 < Barrett> I have 2 projects due before midnight... I just barely started on the first
23:30 < Barrett> so with GL_FIXED, would my buffers need to be long's?
23:32 < Barrett> I was wondering why even my non-drawing function (just animation and stuff) was taking so long... but the float explains it.. I was expecting these processors to be more like a computer's than my calculator's
23:33 < Barrett> (by animation I mean moving stuff around)
23:34 <@_Auron_> Barrett: no, you just define how many bytes are per for in the parameters, wrap a bytebuffer over an int[], and use that buffer
23:35 <@_Auron_> wrap an int buffer over ..*
23:35 < Barrett> ah
23:36 <@_Auron_> and also use VBOs for rendering
23:37 < Barrett> how long is an int in android's "java"?
23:38 <@_Auron_> uh, same as java
23:38 <@_Auron_> 4 bytes
23:38 < Barrett> 4 billion... not sure that's precise enough :)
23:39 < Barrett> or are floats also 4 bytes?
23:39 <@_Auron_> short is 2 bytes, char is 1 byte
23:40 <+ports> frick
23:40 < Barrett> anyway... I shouldn't get sidetracked... I really need to work on this project
23:40 <+ports> i hate comcasts torrent throttling
23:40 <+ports> it just killed my rdc
23:40 < TD-Linux> I have found cases where 32 bits is not precise enough
23:48 < Barrett> TD-Linux, yes, for example, to represent how much money I will have some day
23:48 < Barrett> or how awesome I am
23:48 < Barrett> did I mention how I scored a goal on a goal kick yesterday?
23:56 < TD-Linux> Barrett, good thing ints go negative
23:57 < TD-Linux> but I've had 32-bit floating point not be enough precision
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