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00:00 <@E-J> UNIA
00:00 < incubus> what's that?
00:01 <@E-J> sonata arctica's album title, also means (some) dreams
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00:02 <@E-J> maybe i just say öitä and go to sleep
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01:24 < incubus> I'm sorry but this is the best shit I've ever seen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-Qv_nq3uw4
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01:27 < efneTI92> [KermM] http://www.cemetech.net :: Leading The Way to the Future
01:28 < SirCmpwn> incubus: what is that video? its blocked by the content filter
01:32 < incubus> you don't have an account ?? :P
01:32 < incubus> A 67 year old white man beats the living shit out of a black guy on the bus
01:33 < incubus> Both were quite stupid, I'm not sure why they got mad at eachother in the first place
01:33 < SirCmpwn> that would be why it gets blocked
01:33 < incubus> it's not blocked if you have a youtube account
01:33 < incubus> (which is free, and you already have one if you have a gmail account)
01:33 < incubus> What pisses me off about it is that they both made a huge scene out of their own problems
01:34 < incubus> You've upset everyone on the bus, I don't understand why you couldn't just stfu and wait till the bus stopped to do something
01:34 < SirCmpwn> i has one
01:34 < incubus> so sign in and watch it :P
01:34 < incubus> It's kind of sad to see people's reaction because you can tell how biased everyone is
01:35 < SirCmpwn> auto sign in and it still doesnt work >.<
01:36 < sir_lewk> http://www.bsbrewing.com/blog/2007/08/makin-bacon/ !!!
01:36 < sir_lewk> read that, and salivate
01:36 < incubus> SirCmpwn, works for me :\
01:36 < incubus> 'To view this video or group, please verify you are 18 or older by signing in or signing up.'
01:36 < incubus> you must be less than 18
01:37 < incubus> Two silly black people on the back of the bus tell one black guy to go beat up the white guy
01:37 < incubus> They yell racial shit at the white guy
01:38 < incubus> then the black guy walks up and hits the white guy while he's sitting down, and the white guy stands up and beats the fucking shit out of him
01:38 < incubus> The the black retards in the back have the fucking reasoning that "We can sue him now"
01:38 < incubus> Fucking stupid retards, every one of those god damn fools
01:38 < incubus> Bunch of stupid stupid people
01:39 < SirCmpwn> oh yeah im 16 that would be why
01:39 < incubus> :P
01:40 < incubus> lol I love at the end, the two retards say "We can press charges", then the black guy says "I'm going to kill that nigger"
01:40 < incubus> lmfao
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01:45 < sir_lewk> haha, awesome incubus
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01:46 < JoeYoung> Doubtful, considering he attacked that old guy first.
01:46 < incubus> sir_lewk, hahah
01:46 < incubus> JoeYoung, they also stole his bag
01:46 < JoeYoung> mhmm
01:47 < incubus> Old guy had the right idea to walk to the front of the bus, but he should have just kept his mouth shut
01:47 < incubus> No one on the bus deserved to see that
01:47 < incubus> What if someone had pulled out a gun?
01:47 < JoeYoung> It would've gotten three times as many hits then get removed by Youtube
01:47 < sir_lewk> almost as awesome as homemade bacon
01:48 < incubus> *sigh* people are so stupid
01:49 < JoeYoung> I love how easy it is to admit we're all batshit insane.
01:49 < incubus> indeed
01:49 < JoeYoung> There's so much supporting evidence.
01:49 < incubus> including me
01:49 < incubus> :D
01:50 < incubus> I would have just gotten off the bus though if someone got in my face
01:50 < incubus> It sucks to swallow pride, but it's hassle free :D
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01:50 < sir_lewk> if people were so dumb, then how did we invent bacon?
01:50 < sir_lewk> incubus: I just tell them to fuck off and just sit there
01:50 < incubus> sir_lewk, have you ever actually eaten bacon for anything more than breakfast?
01:51 < sir_lewk> yeah
01:51 < incubus> sir_lewk, what about after you said "fuck off" he got up in your face
01:51 < incubus> and kept saying shit
01:51 < sir_lewk> sometimes I make bacon and eggs for dinner
01:51 < incubus> which would have undoubtedly happen
01:51 < sir_lewk> well so far, I have not been hit in the face
01:51 < incubus> I have, it sucks
01:52 < sir_lewk> I imagine so :/
01:52 < incubus> Here's the ultimate bitch slap, you getting punched in the face is meaningless to police
01:52 < incubus> Unless you're hurt enough to get stitches or recent medical treatment, nobody fucking cares
01:52 < incubus> recieve*
01:53 < incubus> I had a guy come to my dorm room, throw open my door, and punch me in the face and back of the head
01:53 < incubus> I called the police, and they REALLY couldn't have given less of a shit
01:54 < incubus> I never even saw it on the crime log, they never even investigated it
01:55 < sir_lewk> I can still make a scene about it
01:55 < incubus> yup
01:55 < incubus> that's about it
01:55 < sir_lewk> I'm white, so depending on the cops it might work
01:55 < incubus> not really
01:55 < sir_lewk> that's about all I've got going for me
01:55 < sir_lewk> since I've stopped carrying a knife
01:55 < incubus> the guy would probably run off, they really don't care
01:56 < incubus> you can only press charges, and it's up to the DA to decide
01:56 < sir_lewk> yeah
01:56 < sir_lewk> I wouldn't damn near hospitalize the guy though, because that certainly would not look good
01:56 < incubus> Ultimately, the case if it goes to court is a misdeamenor, if the guy didn't have priors he's just looking at parole
01:56 < incubus> lol
01:57 < sir_lewk> mainly why I don't carry a knife anymore, some white college kid slicing up a homeless dude isn't going to look good
01:57 < incubus> That old white man is going to have to look over his shoulder everyday, sucks for him
01:57 < incubus> lol
01:57 < incubus> I felt like murdering the guy who hit me, and this was in private.  I can only imagine what intent that black guy has, getting humiliated
01:58 < sir_lewk> he's probably some dumbass kid with a seriously hurt self esteem now
01:58 < incubus> lol
01:58 < sir_lewk> trying to act gansta, but getting his ass handed to him for his trouble :)
01:58 < incubus> those are the kinds of people who carry guns btw
01:58 < incubus> the people who get their shit handed to them in fights
01:59 < sir_lewk> yeah
01:59 < incubus> the bigger the person, the less likely he is to carry a gun, at least from most crime logs I read
02:00 < sir_lewk> I generally look like a broke ass college kid so the most trouble I ever get is from homeless people, I don't look like the kind of person actually worth mugging/harassing
02:00 < sir_lewk> knives are the worst most crimes around here involve
02:04 < sir_lewk> anyways, I need to find a butcher around here that will sell me some porkbellies
02:04 < sir_lewk> then I can make all the bacon I want
02:04 <@nikky> ...
02:04 <@nikky> yuck
02:05 <@nikky> Pigs are animals
02:05 <@nikky> Intellingent ones
02:05 <@nikky> Intelligent ones
02:05 <@nikky> Why would you want to eat them? :(
02:05 < JoeYoung> We know who isn't.
02:05 < JoeYoung> Animal Farm.
02:05 <@nikky> :(
02:05 < JoeYoung> IT'S THEM OR US, NIKKY!
02:05 <@nikky> :/
02:07 < sir_lewk> nikky: you know what I bet would make great bacon?
02:07 < sir_lewk> fatties
02:07 < sir_lewk> human fatties
02:07 < JoeYoung> Ok.
02:07 < JoeYoung> Fuck.
02:07 < JoeYoung> The pigs can have sir_lewk.
02:07 < sir_lewk> besides, as JoeYoung keenly pointed out: pigs are communists.
02:07 < sir_lewk> I don't care about communists.
02:08 < JoeYoung> Pigs are nazis
02:14 < incubus> sir_lewk, you're kidding yourself, you are the best person to fuck with
02:17 < incubus> sir_lewk, you better call an AMBA LANCE
02:17 < incubus> Amber Lance
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02:25 < sir_lewk> incubus: lol, I don't have shit for money
02:25 < sir_lewk> certainly not cash
02:25 < sir_lewk> if they want a free crappy leather wallet, they can have it >_>
02:25 < incubus> that's not what I mean
02:26 < incubus> it's FUCKING with you
02:26 < incubus> just letting you know you're a little bitch
02:26 < incubus> and letting them feel good
02:26 < incubus> you walk on a bus "What's up bitch?"
02:26 < incubus> say something
02:26 < incubus> Say something bitch
02:26 < incubus> Fucking pussy you're not going to do shit
02:26 < incubus> Stuff like that, I've seen it before many times
02:29 < Randomist> More like, "You ain't gon' do shit."
02:33 < sir_lewk> meh
02:34 < sir_lewk> I haven't run into that
02:35 < Randomist> "Good day, sir.  You look like you're in the mood for a good sparring.  Come on -- speak your words of challenge to me.  Yes.  Speak them, now.
02:35 < Randomist> "Ah.  You see, sir, it appears you are not going to challenge me out of fear, then?"
02:36 < sir_lewk> lmao
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02:44 < efneTI92> [DSP_Lord] I'm not a ninja, no idea what you're talking about.
02:46 < Genolo> http://www.apple.com/ca/ipod/in-ear-headphones/
02:46 < Genolo> 89$ for a pair of headphones
02:47 < bsparks> yup
02:47 < Genolo> that isn't worth it at all
02:47 < Genolo> i always end up chewing through mine 
02:48 < JoeYoung> I can great a great pair of headphones for $5
02:48 < bsparks> hahahaha no you can't :)
02:48 < JoeYoung> who the fuck actually buys these? This is rediculous.
02:49 < Genolo> i just buy the cheapest headphones
02:49 < Genolo> i bring them around a lot they're bound to break anyway
02:49 < bsparks> you can get a pair of headphones for $5, good ones cost around $20, and the best cost around $75. For earbuds anyway
02:49  * Randomist still has his MDR-XB300s.
02:49 < JoeYoung> bsparks, when I'm buying headphones, I'm usually only planning to listen to music on the go. how much fucking detail does one need?
02:50 < bsparks> JoeYoung, idk about you, but I don't go into much detail about fucking in public forums
02:50 < JoeYoung> The $5 ones are awesome! And they last, at least 3 months! I put them through a lot, so they're pretty sturdy afaik
02:51 < Randomist> Bsparks cares about insanely high music quality, and JoeYoung just wants to hear the music.  :P
02:51 < JoeYoung> I think you're trying to justify a terrible purchase to the rest of us, bsparks :P
02:51 < bsparks> JoeYoung, of $10 headphones? Or do you mean my $25 ones I use at home?
02:52 < JoeYoung> well, i could understand 'phones being expensive, but not earbuds.
02:52 < bsparks> Why not?
02:52 < bsparks> Expensive earbuds usually have 2 or 3 speakers per bud
02:52 < JoeYoung> You just can't justify $89 for a pair of earbuds.
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02:53 < JoeYoung> who needs that, honestly?
02:53 < JoeYoung> no one, really.
02:53 < millinao> me
02:53 < JoeYoung> stfu millinao 
02:53 < millinao> :(
02:53 < bsparks> If you spend all of your time listening to music through your earbuds, they're worth more ;)
02:54 < JoeYoung> Then you seriously need to stop :/
02:54 < bsparks> Stop what?
02:54 < JoeYoung> You're listening to TOO much music if you can justify the purchase of $89 earbuds
02:54 < JoeYoung> That's just the dumbest thing I've ever seen.
02:55 < bsparks> Can you justify $89 speakers? Like 3-way nice tower speakers. For listening to at home?
02:55 < JoeYoung> Well, yeah. They're at much lower risk of being damaged.
02:55 < JoeYoung> I still wouldn't buy them, but I can understand that appeal much better.
02:55 < bsparks> Only assholes let their headphones get damaged. Learn to take better care of your stuff ;)
02:56 < JoeYoung> ...
02:56 < JoeYoung> :/
02:56 < millinao> JoeYoung, if you value mobile music, why not get expensive earbuds?
02:57 < bsparks> ^
02:58 < JoeYoung> Because I find the $5 pair completely acceptable, and that $84 difference can be allocated elsewhere, to more important things.
02:58 < millinao> i personally have a big use for high quality sound, for listening to chamber classical music where I do care about sound quality, not so much for rock or electronic
02:58 <@chronomex> psh, electronic music can be good too
02:58 < JoeYoung> You assume that the headphones are $5 which makes them shit. That is just simply not the case.
02:59 < bsparks> JoeYoung, assumption is nothing. It's a fact that the $5 headphones are of subpar quality
02:59 < millinao> i like electronic music but no one cares if electronic music sounds EXACTLY like it's supposed to
03:00 < JoeYoung> I've heard both, and the difference in quality was not proportional to the difference in price.
03:01 < JoeYoung> If the better 'buds are 18x more expensive, then they should be 18x more impressive.
03:01 < Randomist> They're from Apple, so of course they're going to cost eighteen times the price.  :)
03:01 < millinao> some audiophile things ARE bullshit, like cables or some brands of speakers
03:01 < JoeYoung> They simply aren't, and the jump in audio quality does not justify an $84 price hike.
03:02 < millinao> JoeYoung, the problem with that is audio quality is too subjective
03:02 < bsparks> JoeYoung, you are forgetting that it isn't just increased quality, you are also buying a stereo headset ;)
03:02 < JoeYoung> That.... really doesn't mean anything to me.
03:03 < bsparks> Then why are you bitching about it?
03:03 < JoeYoung> I've got two ears.... there's an earbud in each of them.....
03:03 < JoeYoung> I'm not sure what the big deal is....
03:03 < bsparks> What if you want to call someone >_>
03:03 < bsparks> :P
03:03 < JoeYoung> What if?
03:03 < Randomist> Take 'em out?  :P
03:04 < JoeYoung> i no, rite?
03:04 < Randomist> Unless you've got one of those new-fangled media-player phones.
03:04 < JoeYoung> Look, no amount of common sense can justify a purchase like that... and if you can then you must be stupid.
03:05 < bsparks> JoeYoung, or have the funds
03:05 < JoeYoung> Well, yeah.
03:05 < JoeYoung> If you got the money, who cares?
03:05 < JoeYoung> But then, that's not exactly a majority of people here.
03:06 < JoeYoung> Further proof why Steve Jobs is full of shit.
03:06 < millinao> SOMEBODY IS WRONG ON THE INTERNET, ALERT THE PRESSES
03:06 < Randomist> JoeYoung:  No amount of common sense can justify why some people would rather spend over five hundred dollars on a shirt or some pants or some shoes instead of just buying some cheap ones that look nice and just work.  :P
03:06 < bsparks> But for the convenance of dual driver earbuds, remote media control, and a stereo headset in one. $89 may not be worth it, but something is ;)
03:06 < JoeYoung> I totally agree!
03:06 < JoeYoung> with randomist, that is
03:07 < JoeYoung> but as far as your claim, you're probably right.
03:07 < JoeYoung> But the drop would have to drop to around $30 dollars before I'd seriously consider it.
03:07 < JoeYoung> *price would 
03:07 < bsparks> Hahahaha, you go find me dual-driver earbuds for $30
03:08 < bsparks> [ oh and yes, with things like classical music, it DOES make a difference ]
03:08 < Spengo> I want a thermal imaging monocular
03:08 < Spengo> too bad they start at $8000 :/
03:08 < JoeYoung> I say it's worth thinking about how much it costs to assemble one of those. I doubt it's over $20 per pair.
03:09 < Randomist> It's their money.  If they want to blow it on eighty-nine-dollar Apple headphones, more power to them.
03:09 < JoeYoung> Still makes it stupid.
03:09 < bsparks> $20 + shipping + packaging + stocking + loss of product for the asses that steal shit + advertising + cost to pay employees + profit...
03:10 < JoeYoung> $30 + profit  <---- simplified
03:10 < bsparks> Except those things I listed don't add up to $10 in any real world scenario 
03:11  * Randomist goes off to tag files.
03:13 < millinao> JoeYoung, how about this: it's 89$ because people are willing to pay 89$
03:14 < JoeYoung> millinao, how about this: those people are still retards
03:15 < millinao> cool
03:15 < JoeYoung> In any case, historically Steve Jobs has almost never accepted anything less than a 20% gross profit on any product that his company makes.
03:16 < JoeYoung> If anything is proven then it's that Jobs is an incorrigible asshole.
03:18 < millinao> >implying that joeyoung is better than steve jobs
03:18 < Randomist> Steve Jobs Reality Distortion Field™, et cetera, et cetera.
03:18 < JoeYoung> I haven't had the oppurtunity to screw over millions of people yet.
03:19 < bsparks> You're only screwing over people, if they don't know better.
03:21 < JoeYoung> Most people are idiots, it's safe to say most of them DON'T know better.
03:25 < bsparks> I had something rather insightful to say here, but I feel that anything I type will just get morphed in your little world into whatever it is you want it to be. 
03:32 < JoeYoung> funny, i thought the same thing about you at your asshole comment.
03:32 < JoeYoung> I almost backed out.
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04:27 < Jonimus> Its worth $89 because someone is willy to pay that much as millinao said
04:28 < millinao> capitalism, muthafucka
04:29 < Jonimus> I buy the same $9.99 headphones every year, because they sound great and they last me as long as I need them to, and ear buds annoy the crap out of me
04:30 < millinao> my favorite ear buds are phillips 15$ ones
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04:30 < sir_lewk> who the shitstain would pay $89 for fucking earbuds
04:30 < millinao> right now though i'm using sennheiser over-ear ones, comfy
04:31 < millinao> sir_lewk, plenty of people
04:31 < sir_lewk> expensive headphones in general can make sense, but you'd have to pay me about $5 to use earbuds of any sort
04:31 < millinao> heh
04:31 < millinao> my friend uses a pair of those, but he's kind of a douche
04:31 < Jonimus> Mine are sony's, I forget the model but they are around the earbuds as normal earbuds don't stay in for me
04:32 < sir_lewk> lets set up a service that will transcode peoples music collections down to 64kbps
04:32 < sir_lewk> for money
04:32 < Jonimus> nice sir_lewk 
04:32 < Jonimus> :P
04:33 < sir_lewk> hell, lets just patent this business model and sell it to apple
04:33 < sir_lewk> I'm sure they could make it sell
04:33 < Jonimus> heh sony doesn't even have the ones I like on their site anymore, maybe its because I've been getting the same ones for like 6 years now
04:34 < millinao> sir_lewk, i'd do it for free
04:34 < millinao> and run you out of business
04:34 < sir_lewk> and you'd make no money
04:34 < sir_lewk> well, I guess you could get a free music collection out of it
04:35 < sir_lewk> not a bad idea really
04:35 < millinao> no, i don't want kanye west's graduation album 5000 times over
04:35 < sir_lewk> make a website that transcodes stuff, and keep all the originals for yourself
04:35 < sir_lewk> ah, true
04:35 < Jonimus> I have Zune setup to not touch my music unless its over 192Kbs
04:35 < millinao> thats actually a damn good idea
04:36 < sir_lewk> I have my brain setup to just not put shit onto my ipod
04:36 < sir_lewk> rockbox'd ipod
04:36 < Jonimus> nice sir_lewk
04:36 < sir_lewk> last mp3 player I will ever own
04:37 < Jonimus> http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&productId=11035989
04:37 < sir_lewk> mainly because I almost never use the thing right now, so replacing the thing would be pointless...
04:37 < Jonimus> those are the headphones I get every time
04:37 < Jonimus> $10 and they sound great 
04:38 < Jonimus> and when some dude sits on them I'm not out $89 bucks
04:38 < Jonimus> though I might upgrade next time as those are getting harder to find
04:38 < Jonimus> also I want rockbox on my zune :(
04:39 < sir_lewk> it kind of rocks
04:39 < Jonimus> though I may just buy a sansa or creative zen if my zune ever dies
04:39 < JoeYoung> sir_lewk: about your music idea.... apple could probably make it sell XD
04:40 < sir_lewk> I am absolutely sure they could
04:40 < JoeYoung> iShrink app!
04:40 < JoeYoung> shrinks your music so you can fit more!
04:40 < sir_lewk> make a brushed metal client side application for it, call it "Apple Shrinkray" or something, tell all the hipsters that they won't be cool unless they use it
04:40 < sir_lewk> bamm, instant profit
04:41 < JoeYoung> charge 149.99
04:41 < sir_lewk> per song
04:41 < Randomist> Make everyone write music in zipped module formats.  Bam.
04:41 < JoeYoung> oh, right
04:41 < JoeYoung> sell it to bsparks
04:42 < Jonimus> hey bsparks uses PPC macs so hes not totally dumb
04:42 < sir_lewk> all the apple hipsters will be using their apple earbuds anyways so they'll never notice the quality drop
04:42 < Jonimus> PPC is where its at :P
04:42  * Randomist likes how over a hundred and thirty thousand zipped module-format songs only take up thirty gigabytes.  :P
04:43 < Jonimus> I wonder if a copy of NT4 ppc work on his old world macs...
04:43 < Barrett> _Auron_, you here?
04:44 < sir_lewk> Randomist: why don't you just encode those things with a real music codec that does compression itself?
04:45 < sir_lewk> flac that crap up and I bet it'll be even smaller
04:46 < sir_lewk> sizeof(flac) < sizeof(zip(wav))
04:46 < Jonimus> Flac is awesome
04:47 < sir_lewk> I have abcde set up to automatically rip to flac stuff I stick in my cd drive
04:47 < Jonimus> though I only flac things I know I'll want to reburn everything else gets -v2 vbr mp3's
04:47 < sir_lewk> most of my downloaded music is ogg vorbis
04:48 <@nikky> yuck, mp3?
04:48 < Jonimus> heh mine is in w/e I can find it in, though I go flac whenever possible for Downloads just to be sure it doesn't suck
04:48 <@nikky> why?
04:48 <@nikky> why would you even use mp3 ever?
04:48 <@nikky> non open horseshit
04:49 < Jonimus> nikky: because the ZUne can't do OGG
04:49 <@nikky> well, buy a real player then
04:49 < sir_lewk> most of the stuff I actively seek out is flac, some stuff I can't find in anything but mp3
04:49 <@nikky> not my problem
04:49 <@chronomex> ogg sucks
04:49 <@nikky> and you claim you like open source
04:49 <@chronomex> the future is WMA
04:49 <@nikky> HAH
04:49 < Jonimus> and I use an opensource encoder at least
04:49 <@nikky> oh yeah, that makes it better
04:49 <@chronomex> open source software is an anachronism
04:49 <@nikky> DIAF CHRONOMEX
04:49 <@nikky> Hey everyone
04:49 <@nikky> Have reviews questions?
04:50 < millinao> Hey
04:50 <@nikky> reviews@ticalc is open for business!
04:50 < sir_lewk> chronomex: pro
04:50 <@chronomex> sir_lewk: I learned from a master :)
04:50  * chronomex gestures to nikky
04:50 < sir_lewk> he really is the master :)
04:50 < Jonimus> yeah
04:51 < millinao> all you guys are stupid neckbeard hippies, everybody knows .real is the only format that matters anymore
04:51 < sir_lewk> when I hit the hardware mute button on my laptop, I can still hear sound come out of my headphones
04:51 < sir_lewk> kinda annoying
04:51 <@chronomex> millinao: you mean .rm?
04:51 < sir_lewk> millinao: actually, I am clean shaven now
04:52 < millinao> no i rename my files to .real
04:52 <@chronomex> millinao: you're the neckbeard
04:52 < millinao> my neck possesses no beard
04:52 < sir_lewk> I stole like $50 of mach fusion razor cartriges from a junkie I know ;P
04:52 < sir_lewk> I mean bought
04:52 <@chronomex> ahahah
04:52 < millinao> fuuck i need to get another razor cartridge
04:53 < millinao> it hurts like a motherfucker when I shave
04:53 < sir_lewk> just pick up one of those $5 razors from the gas station, they work fine
04:53 < sir_lewk> that's what I use 99% of the time
04:53 < sir_lewk> these things have 5 fucking blades, plus another on the back
04:53 < sir_lewk> it's just overkill honestly
04:54 < millinao> i only use mach 5 turbo extreme edition with 20 water heated ultra comfort(r) blades
04:54 <@chronomex> what's the 6th one for?
04:54 < TD-Linux> chronomex: open source software != open formats
04:54 < TD-Linux> open formats are way more important than open source software
04:54 < Randomist> sir_lewk ("FLAC that crap"):  That would kind of be detrimental.  :P
04:54 < sir_lewk> http://www.theonion.com/content/node/33930 someone is seriously using this as a business plan...
04:54 < sir_lewk> Randomist: why is that?
04:55 < sir_lewk> chronomex: some sort of nosehair trimmer or something, hell if I know
04:55 <@chronomex> sir_lewk: ahahaha
04:55 < sir_lewk> it's worthless I'm convinced.  I'd probably cut my face off trying to use it
04:55 < millinao> i love the onion
04:56 <@nikky> mokomull is active
04:56 <@nikky> everyone get him
04:56 < millinao> hi mokomull
04:56 < TD-Linux> I'm a lamer with a rotary shaver
04:57 < mokomull> hi
04:57 < millinao> why is irc so awesome
04:57 < millinao> i can't tell
04:57 < millinao> all of you people are complete assholes
04:57 < Randomist> sir_lewk:  Average size of a module:  between a kilobytes and a megabyte or two.  Average size of an average-length FLAC file:  twenty-something megabytes.  :P
04:57 < TD-Linux> uhh
04:57 < TD-Linux> Randomist: go shut up now :D
04:58 < TD-Linux> some people actually like recorded music
04:58 < sir_lewk> so it is just some sort of midi shit?
04:58 < TD-Linux> a module is like midi
04:58 <@nikky> I think so
04:58 < TD-Linux> but with the wave data in it
04:58 <@nikky> yuck
04:59 <@nikky> I like variation
04:59 < sir_lewk> correction: the razor is called the "gillette fusion"
04:59 < TD-Linux> as well as there being no standard format
04:59 < millinao> are modules like soundfonts?
04:59 < TD-Linux> module files are specific to what program they were created in
04:59 <@nikky> wow
04:59 < TD-Linux> created by any program ending with the word "tracker"
04:59 <+jr19> i have a gillette fusion and i can't shave facial hair with it
04:59 < millinao> i only heard like 2 lines of that shut up
04:59 <+jr19> it feels the hair is being pulled out :(
05:00 < millinao> jr19, same here
05:00 < sir_lewk> http://www.gillette.com/en-US/#/products/phenom/en-US/index.shtml/ tiger woods likes to use them while stomping on china like fucking godzilla
05:00 < TD-Linux> millinao: soundfonts + patterns (like midi) + hardcoded effects + envelopes
05:00 < millinao> ah
05:00 <+jr19> i have to use an electric because there is no other option, i dont know if there's something wrong with my facial hair or what
05:00 <@chronomex> ha so there's a ticalc email with UNCLASSIFIED in the subject
05:00 <@chronomex> and I'm all wtf is that
05:00 < TD-Linux> .mod, .xm, .it
05:01 < millinao> yeah, those are used for modern classical composers too
05:01 < TD-Linux> fasttracker, modplug, impulse tracker iirc
05:01 < millinao> and film scorers
05:01 <@chronomex> From: "*** *** (AMRDEC/SAIC)" <***.***@us.army.mil>
05:01 <@nikky> yeah
05:01 < TD-Linux> most defninitely film scorers
05:01 <@nikky> I opened that one
05:01 <+jr19> wow the last release of mirc was in 2008...crazy
05:01 <@nikky> :)
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05:01 < TD-Linux> avatar was so much better with all that tracker music
05:02 < Randomist> Recorded music is nice... but, at least, with these, if you don't like how it sounds or get an idea to improve upon it, it's tons easier to edit.  :P
05:02 <@nikky> pirate
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05:02 < TD-Linux> my music files are in mp3 and vorbis
05:02 < TD-Linux> flac is not worth my hdd space
05:04 < i_c-Y> you're not worth the space either
05:04 < millinao> usually I download flac and transcode and delete
05:04 < i_c-Y> probably because all your music sucks.
05:04 < i_c-Y> and the next logical statement is that you suck.
05:04 < millinao> so, has anybody downloaded the new nickelback album yet
05:05 <+jr19> lulz
05:05 < sir_lewk> apparently if I don't want to be a pussy I should upgrade my razor handle to the Gillette Fusion Power
05:05 <+jr19> nickelback
05:05 < Randomist> Isn't how badly something sucks relative to the person who thinks it sucks?  :P
05:05 < sir_lewk> no
05:05 < sir_lewk> no there are units for suck
05:05 <+jr19> are they nickelbacks
05:05 < sir_lewk> we call them "atmospheres"
05:05 <+jr19> oh...right
05:06 < sir_lewk> nickelback is probably at about 0 atmospheres of pressure
05:06 < sir_lewk> ie - total absolute suck
05:06 <@nikky> Yuck
05:07 < sir_lewk> like space, only when HAL 9000 makes you listen to nickelback instead of classical, the movie goes from sci-fi to torture-porn
05:07 < millinao> i like to listen to nickelback in between fallout boy and coldplay
05:07 < sir_lewk> millinao: you best be trolling
05:08 < millinao> yeah, i'm actually right now listening to schubert's winterreise
05:08 < sir_lewk> slick
05:08 < sir_lewk> I'm listening to the soundtrack to Requiem For a Dream
05:08 < sir_lewk> cliche, I know
05:09 < millinao> do you also listen to beethoven's 5th and the four seasons
05:09 < millinao> maybe throw in some eine kleine nachtmusik if you tire of that
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05:11 < sir_lewk> four seasons is good stuff
05:11 < millinao> yeah it is
05:11 < sir_lewk> I switched to the soundtrack of moon though, it's very chill
05:13 < sir_lewk> dammit, I feel the bizarre desire to go shave again
05:13 < sir_lewk> brb
05:13 < millinao> "hey man i love classical music too" "oh yeah, who's your favorite composer" "i dunno man, who wrote that song that plays at weddings a lot"
05:14 <@chronomex> hahahaha what
05:14 < millinao> (talking about pachelbel's canon)
05:22 < sir_lewk> so, I've done a bit of science, and determined that I sleep like a baby when I load up on tylenol before I go to sleep
05:22 < sir_lewk> weirdly enough, advilpm has the opposite effect
05:23 < sir_lewk> advilpm knocks me out, but I feel like shit when I wake up 12 hours later...
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05:25 < sir_lewk> someone should invent a tylenol that doesn't kill your liver, so I can take more of it
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06:08 < Barrett> haha, wow...
06:09 < Barrett> this kind of makes me angry... I was using Math.tan instead of Math.atan... and it was *close*... so close that it didn't even occur to me that maybe I was using the wrong function
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07:12 < Barrett> nikky, you here?
07:14 < Barrett> BrandonW, ?
07:14 < Barrett> anyone with an android phone?
07:14 <@BrandonW> Yeah, but I'm probably not in the mood to do whatever you want with it.
07:15 <@nikky> Barrett: hi
07:15 < Barrett> http://lbarrettanderson.com/Pong.apk
07:16 < Barrett> you know how to install apps from an apk file?
07:16 <@BrandonW> Yes, but I'm not in the mood to install it.
07:16 < Barrett> k
07:17 < Barrett> nikky, if not, no big deal... it isn't that far along yet... but you'd be able to see the concept and tell me if it works
07:18 < Genolo> i've had the same phone for three years.
07:18 < Barrett> BrandonW, what kind of a mood are you in?  bad? sick? tired?
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07:18 <@nikky> It doesn't seem to do anything
07:18 <@nikky> I installed it
07:18 <@BrandonW> Hardcore Nspire exploit coding mode.
07:18 <@nikky> loaded to a nice black screen
07:18 < Barrett> nikky, lame... really?
07:19 <@nikky> really
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07:21 < Barrett> how long did you wait before giving up?
07:21 <@BrandonW> I'm very much considering buying a second Droid and taking up cell phone development.
07:22 <@BrandonW> The second one being a testing device, of course.
07:23 < Barrett> this is what I dislike about android... the emulator doesn't actually emulate very well
07:23 < Barrett> things work that won't work on a phone
07:24 <@BrandonW> I rarely believe in using emulators for testing.
07:24 < Barrett> well, it works on my nexus one
07:24 < Barrett> as well as an emulator with the droid firmware
07:24 < Barrett> 2.0.1 or whatever
07:25 <@BrandonW> How are you liking the Nexus One?
07:26 < Barrett> it's excellent
07:26 < Barrett> you should do that instead of another droid
07:26 < Barrett> I want to make a network version of this game
07:26 < Barrett> but I gave my G1 away...
07:26 <@BrandonW> It looks kind of sucky to me.
07:26 <@BrandonW> I fell in love with the Droid casing.
07:27 < Barrett> firmware and resolution of the droid emulate this game perfectly.... why oh why does it get a black screen on a physical device?
07:27 <@BrandonW> What phone does nikky have?
07:27 < Barrett> I ran into this problem on my first project on my G1, but that's because I was an idiot
07:27 <@BrandonW> A Droid?
07:27 < Barrett> droid
07:28 <@BrandonW> I'm going to go out on a limb and say if it's the same symptoms, it's the same problem.
07:28 < Barrett> texture images have to be 2^N wide and 2^M high
07:28 < Barrett> nah, 'cause the images are correctly sized
07:30 < Barrett> also, whatever emulates OpenGL is absolutely retarded...
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08:01 <@nikky> BrandonW: yes
08:02 <@nikky> Barrett: I'll let it wait a while
08:02 <@BrandonW> It's a good thing you told me, otherwise we might never have known.
08:02 <@nikky> np
08:04 < Barrett> nikky, you don't happen to have the android sdk installed, do you?
08:04 <@nikky> yeah, nothing
08:04 <@nikky> um, no
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08:04 < Barrett> gr.... well, I know 2 people with droids
08:04 < Barrett> maybe I'll borrow one during work/class
08:05 <@nikky> kk
08:05 <@nikky> I'll be sur eot bring mine to class
08:07 < Barrett> do you have firmware 2.0.1?
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08:21 <@nikky> yes
08:27 < Barrett> nikky, want to try it one more time?  I have some debugging stuff that it'll just send to my server
08:28 < Barrett> http://lbarrettanderson.com/Pong.apk
08:28 <@nikky> k
08:28 <@nikky> opened
08:29 < Barrett> k, you can stop it
08:29 < Barrett> thanks
08:29 <@nikky> You're welcome snuggle bear
08:29 < Barrett> interesting...
08:30 <@nikky> oh?
08:30 < Barrett> you gave the same numbers as my emulator... so that got me nowhere :)
08:30 < Barrett> but I'm gonna call it a night
08:30 < Barrett> well, it did tell me where the problem isn't
08:30 < Barrett> so still helpful
08:31 < Barrett> "/44.27098529581321/854/480/" is what you sent, in case you were dying to know
08:31 <@BrandonW> Thank goodness he didn't send /43.27...
08:31 < Barrett> seriously
08:32 <@BrandonW> That would've been a disaster waiting to happen.
08:32 < Barrett> that first number is the fovy
08:32 <@nikky> haha
08:32 < Barrett> or fova
08:33 < Barrett> fovy
08:33 < Barrett> that's it
08:33 < Barrett> which is the Y-angle range of the "camera"... that's how I get it to work on different size screens
08:34 < Barrett> nikky, is yours rooted?
08:34 <@nikky> no
08:34 <@BrandonW> Mine is.
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13:57 <+jr19> it's never a good day when i wake up thinking it's thursday and it's actually wednesday
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14:34 < sir_lewk> dammit jr19, now I'm going to think today is thursday too
14:36 < nicolas> why, I thought today was friday ?
14:36 < nicolas> oh wait, that's what I wish it was...
14:40 <@_Auron_> I have the next two days off
14:40 <@_Auron_> so today is my friday
14:40 <@_Auron_> and friday is my date night
14:40 <@_Auron_> my body no longer feels like it's ripped apart so I can work today
14:41 <+ports> ooo-sha
14:41 <+ports> _Auron_:  cool
14:42 <@_Auron_> I should start running in the morning
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14:47 <+jr19> is today the first date of lent or some shit
14:48 <+jr19> first day*
14:48 < nicolas> indeed, since yesterday was "mardi gras"
14:49 < nicolas> as in the the real "mardi gras" (i.e. fat tuesday), not the "everybody show your boobs for beads day"
14:49 <+jr19> yeah
14:49 <+jr19> i didn't indulge
14:50 <+ports> lol
14:50 <+ports> i didnt go to the bars last night
14:50 <+jr19> i had a dream that i went to the bars
14:50 <+ports> you would
14:51 <+jr19> ok
14:51 <+jr19> i did
14:51 <@E-J> nicolas: here it was more like "going down hill with sledge -day"
14:52 <@E-J> http://www.flickr.com/photos/stevenf/4118608289/
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14:53 < nicolas> E-J: hehe, love that ... in austria where I usually go skiing, there's a road taht goes to the top of the mountain all covered in snow ... it's like 9km downhill .... go up with the bus, down with the sleigh, soooo much fun :D
14:54 <+jr19> i've already sort of committed to not doing much today at work
14:55 <@E-J> nicolas: http://www.laskiaisrieha.fi/
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14:56 <+ports> jr19:  i went to see "Valentines Day" last night... it was pretty funny
14:58 <+jr19> i played a 9pm volleyball game and it seemed like half of my team didn't care to be there
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15:01 <+ports> jr19:  did you lose?
15:02 <+ports> my boss is in florida right now for a conference..
15:03 < nicolas> E-J: that looks so damn fun :D
15:03 <+jr19> yes
15:04 <+jr19> the team we played was probably one of the better teams in our league
15:04 < nicolas> rocket propelled sofa
15:04 < nicolas> hahahaha
15:04 < nicolas> E-J: in austria we do the sleigh on the road thing at night ... it's pretty awesome
15:05 < nicolas> you just have to be careful with the occasional car or bus coming up :D
15:06 <@E-J> heh
15:08 <@E-J> there are bigger hills also in helsinki but that hill is traditional place to do that
15:09 <+jr19> we also have hills in the united states
15:10 < nicolas> E-J: I guess that's more like a "race" event that you do the in the daytime ... 9km on a sleigh is pretty long ...
15:11 <@E-J> might be
15:15 <+jr19> how many medals has finland won so far
15:23 <@nikky> 700
15:24 <@E-J> jr19: 151, http://www.vancouver2010.com/olympic-medals/historical-medals/index_cf-Jc.html?cat6=&cat1=&q=hm
15:25 <@E-J> also these stats looks good http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/spo_win_oly_med_all_tim_percap-medals-all-time-per-capita and http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/spo_sum_oly_med_all_tim_percap-medals-all-time-per-capita
15:26 <@E-J> especially summer olympics
15:31 <+jr19> heh
15:35 <+ports> jr19:  crap.. im in a relationship on facebook now.. i bet indian girl will say something
15:35 <+ports> she just messaged me
15:35 <+jr19> yeah
15:35 <+jr19> its on facebook, it's offical
15:35 <+jr19> official too
15:36 <+ports> lol
15:36 <@nikky> facebook sucks
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15:37 <+ports> facebook ruines lives
15:37 <+ports> it got a kid expelled from my school
15:38 <+jr19> has anyone looked up nikky sutherland on facebook
15:38 <+ports> because we had some bikers protesting a military funeral on campus.. and he wrote something like "sometimes i want to blow this place up because people cant get along" .. or something like that...
15:38 <+ports> and people took that as a bomb threat.. the police arrested him.. he went to court.. and was kicked out of school for making a bomb threat
15:38 <+jr19> she is not all that attractive
15:39 <+ports> i think it was stupid on his part to write that on facebook..  but everyone over-reacted also
15:39 <+jr19> yeah
15:40 <+ports> it sucked worse because he was apparently his fraternity president
15:40 <+ports> lol
15:45 <@E-J> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Vancouver-BC/The-Norwegian-Olympic-Curling-Teams-Pants/311163439555?ref=nf
15:45 < nicolas> hmm... so I need to parse a CSV file (or CSV like at least) .... any tips on libs to use ?
15:46 <+jr19> i thought some of the women on the japanese curling team were fairly attractive
15:47 <+ports> jr19:  see that link?
15:47 <+jr19> no
15:49 <+ports> oh
15:49 <+ports> it ruined his life
15:49 <+ports> i dont remember what the kid was finally charged with.. i think it was a "special misdeameanor" that lets the government fuck him for life
15:50 <+ports> the kid used to date a friend of mine... i wonder if he still does
15:51 <+jr19> why are we stil talking about this
15:51 <+jr19> those pants are terrible, by the way
15:57 <+ports> what pants
16:02 <+ports> the ones im wearing?
16:02 <+jr19> no, nevermind
16:02 <+ports> the ones i bought last night?
16:02 <+ports> are you and my girlfriend talking about my wardrobe again
16:04 <+jr19> how could i be talking to your girlfriend
16:04 <+ports> i dont know
16:04 <+ports> you two are like best buds
16:15 <+jr19> silly, in the police writeup today in the paper, there is a shoplifting incident that i saw when i was at the store the other night
16:15 <+jr19> some nerd trying to steal alcohol while drunk...it was funny
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17:02 < efneTI92> [KermM] http://www.cemetech.net :: Leading The Way to the Future
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18:02 <+ports> guh
18:02 <+ports> jr19:  im in trouble :<
18:02 <+jr19> why
18:04 <+ports> jr19:  my project is about 65% over budget..
18:04 <+ports> and im a little bitchy.. because its not exactly over budget..
18:04 < sir_lewk> fire everybody
18:04 <+ports> the initial budget was just wrong.
18:05 < sir_lewk> steal furniture from other departments and hold it for ransom
18:05 <+jr19> rape and pillage
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18:10 < sir_lewk> organize an armed militia
18:10 <+jr19> attend illegal weapon sales
18:11 < sir_lewk> this is how the corporate america of the future will work, be a trend-setter
18:11 < sir_lewk> start an illegal drug trade to finance your operations
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18:18 < efneTI92> [KermM] http://www.cemetech.net :: Leading The Way to the Future
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18:27 <+jr19> wtkrisk
18:27 < krisk> hi
18:27 < krisk> ?
18:28 <+jr19> hello
18:59 <+ports> eh
19:04 < asmand> I just realised: I don't have any TI-related things installed on my pc currently
19:04 < asmand> is it still assembly studio that you should use for the TI-86?
19:05 < asmand> or are there any new utilities?
19:05 < asmand> btw, who talked about gnuradio the other day?
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19:14 <@E-J> http://www.flickr.com/photos/markvg/270147156/in/set-72157594309650472/
19:14 < DSP_Lord> XD
19:14 <@E-J> asmand: noi on yrittäny siirtää koodauskeskustelut kanavalle #ti
19:14 < DSP_Lord> thank god there was a translation there, otherwise i wouldn't have got it
19:15 <@E-J> DSP_Lord: i wouldn't have paste it here without translation
19:15 < DSP_Lord> :P
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19:41 <@E-J> http://kuvaton.com/browse/14078/snow_in_switzerland.jpg
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19:59 < krisk> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCsWMYMFIk8&feature=player_embedded
19:59 < krisk> thats me working out
20:04 <+ports> n
20:04 <+ports> good luck
20:07 <+jr19> back
20:07 <+jr19> good lunch today
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20:33 <+jr19> crazy...iowa board of pharmacy voted unanimously for legalization of medical marijuana and for it to be changed to a schedule II substance
20:34 < krisk> cool
20:34 < krisk> also
20:34 < krisk> you has pm
20:34 <+jr19> oh shi-
20:41 <+ports> what
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20:56 < efneTI92> [Randomist] CAUTION:  Exposure to this user may cause neurological damage.
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21:30 <+ports> jr19:  did you see the new Windows Phone 7?
21:31 <+jr19> yeah
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21:33 <+ports> jr19:  it looks slick
21:33 <+ports> dick slick
21:33 <+jr19> dick slick? interesting.
21:35 <+ports> yes
21:41 <@E-J> apparently there is one sport where finland won't fail in these games, finland - belarus 4-1 on 3rd period
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22:02 < efneTI92> [JoeYoung] Just a calm day...
22:12 <+ports> im wearing some amber lensed safety glasses right now
22:13 <+ports> and i get why people are like they reduce eye strain
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22:48 <@E-J> aussie snowboarder in olympics, name "ben mates"
22:48 <@E-J> yo mates
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23:22 <@E-J> http://kuvaton.com/browse/14065/gay_threat.png
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23:24 < efneTI92> [JoeYoung] Just a calm day...
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