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00:17 <@nikky> Hi, I'm BrandonW 
00:18 <@BrandonW> Hi, I'm nikky
00:18 <@nikky> I would marry a z80 CPU if it were legal.
00:19 <@BrandonW> I have a real z80 CPU. I sleep with it.
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00:25 < sir_lewk> oh you two
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00:40 < sir_lewk> does anyone know of a good yakauake/guake/tilda alternative?
00:40 < sir_lewk> primarily one based off xterm, not konsole or gnome-terminal?
00:40 < sir_lewk> both gnome-terminal and yakuake are worthless to me.
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01:00 < Barrett> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VF6z8aeHmo
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01:59 < sir_lewk> slick Barrett
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02:32 < bsparks> chronomex, you may find this tidbit interesting. My grandfather grew up in the only home with a phone in the town he grew up in, and his grandfather's store had the only private line. The numbers were 9r23 and 15 respectively 
02:34 <@chronomex> 9r23, not 9f23?
02:35 < bsparks> 9r23, he couldn't remember what the R stood for, but he did remember the 9 was the party line, and the 2 and 3 were for 2 short rings and 3 long ones. [ or 2 longs and 3 shorts, he couldn't remember those either ]
02:35 <@chronomex> ah, probably R == ringing code then
02:35 <@chronomex> interesting, thanks
02:35 < bsparks> No problem :)
02:36 < bsparks> I thought it was nifty because he said 9r33 was 2 towns over, and 16 was over 60 miles away!
02:36 <@chronomex> impressive!
02:36 <@chronomex> wonder where the actual exchange was
02:36 <@chronomex> what state was this?
02:37 < bsparks> PA, Laurel Mountains, 50 miles north of Pittsburgh 
02:37 <@chronomex> aye
02:37 < bsparks> The whole conversation came up because he came across my great grandmother's phone, which was one of the last ones in service that you could manually ring 
02:38 <@chronomex> magneto, with a crank on the side?
02:38 < bsparks> Yup
02:38 <@chronomex> good times
02:38 < bsparks> She refused to upgrade to "one of those complex annoying ones with the dials"
02:38 <@chronomex> heh
02:41 < Randomist> Pot night.
02:41 < Randomist> Also, hello.
02:41 <@_Auron_> what
02:42 < tr1p1ea> O_o
02:42 < bsparks> chronomex, also, I _almost_ got the Westerville Public Library to buy A History of Science and Engineering in the Bell System, but it was turned down 5 to 4 :(
02:43 <@chronomex> lamesauce
02:43 <@chronomex> on what grounds?
02:43 < bsparks> Too expensive
02:43 < tr1p1ea> did you beat up those who were against?
02:43 <@chronomex> yeah, not surprising
02:44 <@chronomex> at least you got a response, that's cool
02:44 < bsparks> Indeed, they actually like me there :D
02:46 < Jonimus> nie bsparks 
02:46 < Jonimus> nice*
02:46 <@_Auron_> FB IM is broken on both pidgin, my phone, and my desktop browser
02:47 < bsparks> _Auron_, works for me ._.
02:47 <@_Auron_> ...
02:47 <@_Auron_> great
02:47 < bsparks> err, ok, nevermind, it just broke >_<
02:47 <@_Auron_> aha
02:47 <@_Auron_> :P
02:47 < bsparks> probably because Facebook and AOL are starting to pair their services 
02:49 <@_Auron_> ah
02:50 < Jonimus> wait what, Facebook is gonna use oscar and not xmpp :(
02:50 < bsparks> idk
02:50 < Jonimus> also FM im is working for me in pidgin atm
02:50 <@chronomex> Jonimus: probably not
02:50 <@chronomex> that'd be crazy
02:51 < bsparks> As far as I know AOL just wants to route facebook chat through their services, and FB wants to route AOL chat through THEIR services 
02:51 < bsparks> ¯\(°_o)/¯
02:51 < Jonimus> chronomex: well aim uses oscar so if they are pairing services that would imply that
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02:51 < JoeYoung> hrmm..... utorrent 2.0
02:51 < bsparks> But in order to route, you don't need to have compatable services :)
02:52 <@chronomex> yeah, microsoft's corporate IM federates with AIM
02:52 <@chronomex> and microsoft most definitely does not use Oscar internally
02:53 < Jonimus> ahh ok
02:56 < bsparks> _Auron_, should be back
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03:00 <@_Auron_> bsparks: yes and no
03:00 <@_Auron_> was back up, went back down again
03:00 <@_Auron_> I expect similar behavior for awhile.
03:00 <@_Auron_> I can talk with one of my friensd but the friend list is broken
03:00 < bsparks> Ah
03:00 <@_Auron_> also I got kicked off FB and had to log back in
03:00 <@_Auron_> whatever.
03:00 <@_Auron_> FB IM is broken again
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03:21 < Barrett> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VF6z8aeHmo
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03:29 < DrDnar> I hate my assembly teacher more and more. This is considered a project: http://pastebin.com/m404aedd0
03:30 < DrDnar> It's "way hard to read".
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03:33 < Jonimus> wow DrDnar that is actaully very easy to follow code
03:33 < Jonimus> and looks fairly nice to boot
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03:38 < DrDnar> She keeps saying assembly is sooooo hard. 
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04:06 < Barrett> what's the mac mini-esque form-factor called?
04:08 < i_c-Y> a mac mini?
04:08 < i_c-Y> theres a lot of small form factors
04:08 < i_c-Y> eg miniitx
04:08 < i_c-Y> nanoitx
04:08 < i_c-Y> picoitx
04:08 < i_c-Y> microatx is pretty small
04:09 < i_c-Y> flexatx
04:09 < Barrett> well, if I'm searching for a computer built with one of those...
04:10 < i_c-Y> eeebox?
04:10 < Barrett> 'cause I don't know where I would find a case to hold one...
04:10 < Barrett> I don't want atom
04:10 < i_c-Y> or just buy the mini?
04:10 < Barrett> too expensive
04:10 < i_c-Y> mini-itx.com sells stuff like that.
04:10 < i_c-Y> you're going to be paying about the same.
04:10 < Barrett> plus I'd have to buy windows if I went with a mini
04:11 < i_c-Y> what are you planning to use the mini for?
04:12 < Barrett> put on my train
04:12 < i_c-Y> whaa
04:12 < i_c-Y> werent you looking at a netbook for this?
04:13 < Barrett> yeah, but I decided that I need a faster processor than what I can find in any netbook
04:13 < i_c-Y> now how did you come to that conclusion...
04:13 < Barrett> the other day I tested my friend's netbook.... had him stream video to ustream from it
04:13 < Barrett> and it sucked
04:13 < Barrett> horrible framerate
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04:13 < Barrett> (he was connected to fast internet)
04:13 < Barrett> so that ruled out the atom
04:14 < i_c-Y> did you try using a decent webcam and/or an ion?
04:14 < Barrett> I don't think the camera has much to do with the horrible framerate
04:14 < Barrett> and also I'm told that the GPU has little to nothing to do with encoding
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04:16 < i_c-Y> are you sure the webcam wasnt jsut running in a lower mode than 30 fps?
04:16 < Barrett> not positive.  I'll do some more testing tomorrow
04:16 < Barrett> maybe even bring in my webcam to put on his netbook
04:17 < Barrett> do programs let you choose which webcam to use?  I've never been in this scenario before... (multiple cameras)
04:17 < i_c-Y> try it and find out
04:18 < i_c-Y> ive seen a quickcam pro 9000 used on a netbook and it worked fine. 
04:20 < DrDnar> What kind of tech majors does Cooper Union offer?
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04:21 < i_c-Y> anyhow, consider the price of building a mac mini: case: rosewill cheap shit its atleast  50 dollars, zotac cheapest board: 100 , probably another 35 for a cheap sempron noting that you have to get something really low power cause itx psus dont put out that much. then a stick or two of ddr2, and a drive 
04:21 < i_c-Y> and thats way worse than a mini
04:21 < i_c-Y> DrDnar: look at the course catalog on the website.
04:22 <@BrandonW> What's a really nice noise-dampening case these days?
04:22 < i_c-Y> go read silentpcreview.
04:23 < Randomist> A good pair of speakers and some music to go with it.
04:23 <@BrandonW> "go ready silentpcreview."? You're supposed to be spouting lots of knowledge and answers to questions like that.
04:23 <@BrandonW> Are you feeling okay?
04:23 < DrDnar> This my assembly course's idea of project: http://pastebin.com/m404aedd0
04:23 <@BrandonW> read*
04:24 <@BrandonW> Yeah, my assembly class wasn't any harder.
04:24 < i_c-Y> the projects change every year and are different based on which class it is
04:24 <@BrandonW> A lot of the people in there were morons.
04:25 < i_c-Y> eg. one class parsed gps data and stuff
04:25 < DrDnar> Ha. Haha. This woman would tell me that's too complicated.
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04:27 < DrDnar> I wrote that program to assembly as a COM file, and gave special instructions for assembling it. The linker gave the message, "LINK : warning L4045: name of output file is 'small.com'". She wrote and told me my special instructions didn't work.
04:27 < i_c-Y> another class did a subset of a compiler as a project. ie. very rudimentary lexer, parser, etc.
04:27 < i_c-Y> http://pastebin.com/m404aedd0
04:28 < DrDnar> It seems she didn't know what a COM file was, despite going on and on to us about the days of DOS.
04:28 < DrDnar> i_c-Y: I've seen that code before . . . 
04:28 < i_c-Y> yeah i accidentally right clicked.
04:29 <@BrandonW> I find it best to just skate by in a class like that and try not to cause trouble.
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04:31 < DrDnar> I have standards. And those standards include NOT installing Visual Studio.
04:31 <@BrandonW> Anybody still watching Heroes?
04:32 < DrDnar> Why can't we use AoA? And why can't we use free-and-portable HLA?
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04:32 < i_c-Y> BrandonW: about the cases, quiet cases are a rather touchy subject, and theres a lot more to it, eg. getting a silent psu, good fans, etc. - i think Antec's Sonata series is still good for quietness, but silverstone is king but will raep your wallet.
04:32 < TD-Linux> I don't understand why they teach x86 assembly
04:32 <@BrandonW> Sure there's more to it, but I've always bought cheap $30 cases and wanted to know what was better.
04:33 <@BrandonW> I'm looking at building a media center PC and I would want to squeeze quietness out of every component possible.
04:33 <@BrandonW> And I have no interest in those special media center cases.
04:33 <@BrandonW> Unless that's truly the best way to do such a thing.
04:34 < TD-Linux> lots of big fans
04:34 < i_c-Y> if you're okay with leaving a regular case around, thats fine.
04:34 < TD-Linux> at slow rpm
04:34 <@BrandonW> A regular case is in its future home right now.
04:34 < i_c-Y> have you considered using something like a wdtv live instead?
04:35 <@BrandonW> Ridiculous and unacceptable.
04:36 <@BrandonW> I am dead set on a standard Windows machine.
04:36 < i_c-Y> fair enough.
04:37 < TD-Linux> that's ridiculous
04:37 < i_c-Y> i think the sonata will be a good choice (older one with dampening kit shoudnt be too expensive)
04:37 < TD-Linux> I have a sonata
04:37 < TD-Linux> hint: install resistor in front case lights
04:40 < i_c-Y> or if you have cash to burn, silverstone is a good brand to look at.
04:43 < i_c-Y> you've also gotta pick a quiet PSU, hard drives, hsf (someting like coolermaster's gemini or a true would be good)
04:44 < i_c-Y> and a passively cooled graphics card isnt a bad idea.
04:47 < TD-Linux> get a video card with good hardware acceleration of video
04:47 < TD-Linux> it will be many many times quieter than the CPU decoding it
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05:16 < Jonimus> or wouldn't one of those dedicated decoder chips and a cheaper or integrated card work as well?
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05:44 < Barrett> i_c-Y, here?
05:45 < Barrett> "The 12V power supply that I'm getting is rated for 10 amps of current. What would happen if I attached the wheels to an inverter (one of those small car ones) (through some upgraded wires (I think 16 gauge)), which in turn powered my laptop? (eventually I'll replace it with a netbook or some very small computer).
05:45 < Barrett>  I don't like the idea of going from AC to DC to AC to DC, but I don't want to run 110V through the tracks, and (maybe I'm making this up) I get the feeling that an inverter would help protect my laptop's power supply in some way."
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05:46 <@chronomex> is he running a laptop on a model train?
05:46 < Barrett> yes
05:46 <@chronomex> huh.
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06:08 <@chronomex> anyone want a google wave invite? I have 22
06:08 <@chronomex> :P
06:10  * Randomist shrugs.  Sure, why not?
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06:17 <@efneTI86> 658: <+KevinJB> my mistake of her being male was completely justified as i didn't know her [Added: aww at 2006/08/17 21:45]
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06:46  * Randomist stabs religion.
06:49  * BrandonW stabs Randomist.
06:50  * KermM yells out, "et tu, Brandon?"
06:50  * DrDnar stabs the CS major
06:50 <@BrandonW> You'll have to be more specific.
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06:54 < Randomist> Some guys were discussing how God made them better by being slaves with breeding.
06:56 <@BrandonW> Maybe your complaint is not with religion, but with the idiots you're listening to.
06:56 < DrDnar> Sooo many people miss the point.
06:58  * Randomist stabs them all for fairness and good measure.
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07:28 < Barrett> I want one volunteer
07:28 < Barrett> who's up?
07:28 < Barrett> nikky, here?
07:29 <@BrandonW> Have your way with me.
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07:35 < Genolo> sounds dirty
07:41 < Barrett> ok, BrandonW is being boring
07:41 < Barrett> who's next?
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07:41 <@BrandonW> I can't please him. :(
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07:42 < Barrett> all he wants to do is stare at my roommate
07:42 <@BrandonW> Am I not kinky enough for you?
07:43 <@BrandonW> I go back and forth, it's all I can do.
07:43 <@BrandonW> How can I be more exciting?
07:43 < Barrett> well, you could change your pace a little.  The same old pace gets old
07:43 < Barrett> and why do you stop so much?
07:43 <@BrandonW> Seriously, I can only do so much.
07:43 <@BrandonW> You can't criticize me.
07:44 <@BrandonW> Don't judge me!
07:44 < Barrett> hmmm... you're probably gonna knock  the bed over doing that
07:45 <@BrandonW> And that's a problem?
07:45 <@BrandonW> Don't touch me.
07:45 <@BrandonW> Can't I at least watch TV during?
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07:45 <@BrandonW> I don't know how much longer I can keep up the sexual innuendo.
07:45 < Barrett> apparently only until that comment
07:46 < Barrett> it was pretty funny while it lasted, I must admit
07:46 < Barrett> and you did knock the bed over, if you didn't notice
07:46 < Barrett> that's what I was fixing
07:46 <@BrandonW> You should be rigging this to a toy car, not a train.
07:47 < Barrett> latency would be too much of a problem =/
07:47 <@BrandonW> I fail to see how.
07:47 < Barrett> it'd be like the mars rovers, but with less control
07:47 < Barrett> you'd have to guess where you'd end up
07:47 <@BrandonW> Forget Ustream, find a way to stream it directly.
07:48 < Barrett> yeah... I need to figure something out
07:48 < Barrett> or at least just go through my server
07:48 < Barrett> gah!
07:48 < Barrett> it fell over again
07:48 < Barrett> and the TV is off
07:49 <@BrandonW> I'm going to beat you to this.
07:49 <@BrandonW> A wifi webcam on a remote control car.
07:49 <@BrandonW> You can run around my apartment, freak the cat out...
07:49 <@BrandonW> It'll be awesome.
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07:51 < Barrett> do it
07:55 < Netham45> anyone know what the function 'sys_printf' would be in reference to?
07:57 < Barrett> BrandonW, will it be a regular remote control car as far as controls go?
07:57 < Barrett> or will you do something more awesome like putting the controls on a computer?
07:57 <@BrandonW> Yes.
07:57 <@BrandonW> I'd like to be able to tilt the webcam, too.
07:57 < Barrett> how will you power it?
07:57 < Barrett> (the cam)
07:58 < Netham45> I put my cell-phone on a lego mindstorm robot kit
07:58 < Netham45> and used bluetooth to control the robot/get the pic from my phone
07:59 <@BrandonW> I have no idea, I'm not an expert in these things.
07:59 <@BrandonW> Surely someone on the planet has done it before.
07:59 < Barrett> do what I did and attach a computer to the car :)
08:00 <@BrandonW> Which computer?
08:00 <@BrandonW> This is not a bad idea.
08:00 < Barrett> or you can just buy this http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3372595&CAWELAID=271518866
08:00 < Barrett> the major difference you'd have with a car is the need for a battery
08:01 < Barrett> I guess it'd be pretty much the same as the car in the first place...
08:01 < Barrett> but mine can go forever, as long as it doesn't fall over
08:02 <@BrandonW> http://users.ece.gatech.edu/~hamblen/489X/f05proj/WiDrive/about.htm
08:03 < Barrett> pretty cool
08:07 <@BrandonW> http://www.jbprojects.net/projects/wifirobot/ I laughed out loud at the sight of this.
08:08 < Barrett> anyway, BrandonW, if you want to share ideas, I'm all for it.  Right now I'm looking for free/open source video streaming software (3 points... the computer where it's taken/encoded, a server, and clients watching it)... the most important thing is low latency
08:08 < Barrett> haha
08:08 < Barrett> what the heck?
08:09 <@BrandonW> It's a freaking router with DD-WRT and two serial ports, one to a microcontroller to control the car, and the other for the webcam.
08:09 <@BrandonW> And some code to control it.
08:09 <@BrandonW> I'm about to have three DD-WRT routers freed up soon, but I think I'm going to have to say no to that.
08:10 < Barrett> BrandonW, if you're serious about this, check out Pololu.com... specifically (just the things that I got), http://www.pololu.com/catalog/product/1351 and http://www.pololu.com/catalog/product/1392
08:10 < Barrett> I actually got a different version of the Jrk that supports more current, but really that one is plenty)
08:11 < Barrett> and if you aren't going to go the "computer on board" route, then having USB on the chip is less important... they have other options
08:12 < Barrett> (and you might even want to consider something other than the Jrk anyway... one of the reasons that it's that expensive is that it has feedback, which isn't really useful for a car motor)
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08:13 < Barrett> I got it because of the USB, but you are smarter than me and can probably figure out their other interfaces
08:14 <@BrandonW> If it's too easy, I lose the motivation to do it.
08:14 <@BrandonW> I don't know enough about tinkering with hardware to really do it.
08:14 <@BrandonW> Plus it comes awfully close to robots, which as you know, I'm fervently against.
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08:15 < Barrett> just don't give it AI
08:15 <@BrandonW> If it resembles something being controlled like a puppet, it's close enough.
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10:05 < Randomist> You guys are still awake/
10:05 < leofox> i just woke op
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10:23 <@E-J> iphone users? http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/south-korean-iphone-users-turn-to-sausages-as-a-cold-weather-me/
10:29 <@chronomex> yup
10:49 < Randomist> Oh, wow.  It's almost five?
10:49 < Randomist> This friggin' time distortion effect is killing me.
10:51 < Randomist> I know things started happening (or were) at around three AM, and now it's almost five.  This distance of time almost felt like a lifetime.
11:00 <@chronomex> woooo football! http://kuvaton.com/browse/12060/soccer_plans.jpg
11:22 <@E-J> http://twitter.com/JonathanSpotify
11:43 <@E-J> nicolas: france is in panic of that less snow?
11:46 <@E-J> tr1p1ea: http://hardocp.com/news/2010/02/11/71_australians_do_look_at_internet_porn
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12:45 <@E-J> http://tinyurl.com/y9ayeac
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14:05 <+jr19> lol sausages
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15:33 <@E-J> nikky: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=286773090115&ref=nf
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16:04 < sir_lewk> hola muchachos
16:04 < sir_lewk> today is a good day, I was out the past two days so it feels like a monday
16:04 < sir_lewk> but it's actually friday!
16:07 <@BrandonW> So it's like your week is cut short?
16:08 < sir_lewk> yup
16:08 < sir_lewk> 1 day week
16:08 < sir_lewk> I cannot argue with such things
16:11 <+jr19> "out"?
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16:16  * Randomist waves, and wonders if he's 99% sane again.
16:23 <@E-J> Randomist: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MUi3ztcBuw
16:23 <+ports> jr19:  snow days
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16:36 <@E-J> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0ExpwpzGsE
16:49 <@nikky> yay Kim Jong!
16:52 < Netham45> anyone know how I could cache/buffer/what have you file opens/closes for an arbitrary program to speed it up?
16:53 <@nikky> Sure
16:53 <@nikky> www.debian.org
16:53 <@nikky> That's way too advanced for Windows, are you kidding?
16:53 < Netham45> >.>
16:54 < Netham45> fine, then I guess I get to send a pissy e-mail to VALVe for making console logging so rediculiously unoptimized
16:54 < Netham45> srsly, it opens, writes, then closes a file for every line printed to the console.
16:55 <@nikky> What's wrong with that?
16:56 < Netham45> It drops my FPS quite a bit if I log more than 2 or 3 lines a second
16:56 <@nikky> well, why do you need to log?
16:56 < Netham45> to debug the plugins I write
16:57 <@nikky> you don't need FPS for debugging
16:57 <@nikky> shoo
16:57 < Netham45> also, I'm trying to get something to output to the LCD on my G15, but all of the commands that output the info I want output >150 lines
16:57 < Netham45> which is over 2/3rd of a second of lag it creates
16:59 <@nikky> :\
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17:06 < efneTI92> [KermM] http://www.cemetech.net :: Leading The Way to the Future
17:16 < i_c-Y> supersloshy writes 
17:16 < i_c-Y> "Facebook Chat has so far only been meant to be used in a web browser, and instant messaging applications have had a hard time implementing it's undocumented protocol. Today, Facebook is making this job much easier by enabling support for XMPP to access its chat service. AOL's AIM and the Empathy Instant Messenger are also including pre-set Facebook options, due to already supporting XMPP."
17:16 < i_c-Y> Here are instructions for setting up XMPP Facebook chat with popular instant messaging clients, including Pidgin and Adium.
17:17 <+jr19> old news is old
17:17 <+jr19> ;\
17:18 <+jr19> it seems to work well
17:19 <+jr19> except the no SSL/TLS kinda sucks
17:22 < Jonimus> i_c-Y: link?
17:23 <+jr19> http://blog.facebook.com/blog.php?post=297991732130 that is the one i was looking at...
17:27 < sir_lewk> no ssl/tls kinda *really* sucks
17:27 < sir_lewk> unexcusable
17:28 <@BrandonW> inexcusable*
17:29 <@BrandonW> Me fail English, that's unpossible!
17:32  * Randomist waves; yawns sleepily.
17:33 <+jr19> yeah i would sort of like to leave work to go home and take a nap
17:33 < Jonimus> hmm its not working for me, at all
17:33 < Jonimus> I just get service unavailable
17:33 <+jr19> i think i tried doing it in centerim and it didn't work
17:34 <+jr19> but it worked for me in finch
17:34 < Randomist> Facebook XMPP?
17:34 <+jr19> well, it's working for me in finch, because i'm using it right now
17:35 < i_c-Y> /. , Jonimus 
17:36 < Jonimus> jr19, hmm well I tired the Pidgin settings suggested on the facebook page and it didn't work
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17:37 < Randomist> Was I here between 0400 and 0600 CST?
17:37 <+jr19> i didnt look at the suggested settings, i just guessed
17:38 <+jr19> i used my facebook username as my for the username (not my email address), chat.facebook.com for the domain
17:38 <+jr19> normal password, port 5222...
17:40 < Jonimus> yeah I guess I for w/e reason don't have a facebook username set
17:41 < Jonimus> or wait I do, its just not working
17:41 <+jr19> strange
17:44 < Jonimus> http://facebook.com/jasturm works for you guys right?
17:44 < Randomist> Yes, acutally.
17:44 <+jr19> yeah
17:44 <+jr19> related to any sturm's in the bellevue, ia area?
17:45 < Jonimus> hmm maybe 
17:45 < Jonimus> my family really has no clue
17:45 <+jr19> heh ok, i was just asking because my friend's wife is a sturm
17:46 < Jonimus> hmm well either way I know my pass is right but I still get 503: service unavailable
17:46 <+jr19> you dont have SSL enabled do you
17:47 < Jonimus> nope, but it keeps falling back plaintext auth which the facebook page says should be disabled
17:47 < Jonimus> hmm let me try meebo xmpp
17:48 < Jonimus> hmm that doesn't work either
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17:50 <+jr19> unfortunate
17:50 <+jr19> i might have been doing it wrong in centerim, i dunno
17:51 <+jr19> but like i said, it works really well in finch
17:54 <+jr19> yeah i just tried it again in centerim and it doesn't work...and i'm pretty sure i'm doing it right
17:57 <@E-J> ah, olympics start
17:59 <@E-J> http://www.vancouver2010.com/olympic-ski-jumping/schedule-and-results/nh-individual-qualification-round_sjm070901qL.html
17:59 <@E-J> now from tv
18:00 <+jr19> i bet finland loves the winter olympics
18:00 <@E-J> of course
18:00 <+jr19> i will probably watch them a little bit
18:00 <@E-J> i assume you aren't going to watch
18:01 <+jr19> but i don't care that much for most winter sports
18:03 <@E-J> iirc there are finns in all of the sports, except bobsleigh, luge, skeleton and short track, i'm not sure though about curling
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18:16 <@E-J> apparently 2 americans have qualified to tomorrow's competition
18:19 <@chronomex> that's a problem
18:20 <@Andy_J> opening cermonies?
18:20 <@Andy_J> already?
18:20 <@E-J> Andy_J: not yet
18:20 <@Andy_J> oh ok
18:20 <@E-J> ski jump qualifying
18:21 <@E-J> for some reason some events are always before ceremonies
18:22 < Randomist> E-J:  That was interesting.  I wonder if they've got one for "Rautaketju."
18:26  * Randomist is still having problems with relative time.  >.<
18:28 <@E-J> Randomist: i'm going to work as stage hand to Finnish Metal Expo next weekend and TK will perform there
18:29 <@E-J> last time they were there, they forgot chainsaw to stage and I had to get it back them
18:29 < sir_lewk> oh yeah, that olympic stuff is happening
18:29 < sir_lewk> where is it this time?
18:29 <@E-J> sir_lewk: vancouver (canada, not washington)
18:32 < sir_lewk> ah, right
18:32 < sir_lewk> I heard that somewhere, forgot
18:36 <+jr19> vancouver isn't even a very wintery place
18:36 <@E-J> yeah, games should be in dallas
18:37 <+jr19> very wintery there
18:37 <+jr19> my friend that's in dallas posted a picture of the snow in his backyard on facebook
18:37 < krisk> my dad is going to america next week
18:38 <+jr19> why
18:38 < krisk> work
18:38 < krisk> he's an boeing certified aircraft maintenance engineer
18:38 <+jr19> cool
18:38 < krisk> for 737s and 757s
18:39 <+jr19> should've asked to go with him
18:39 < krisk> well, i have work too
18:40 < sir_lewk> weren't they in dallas not too long ago?
18:40 < sir_lewk> oh no, that was utah
18:40 <+jr19> just tell work that you need to study american programming practices
18:40 < krisk> he has to go to USA sometimes so its not like I'm missing my chance to come along, I can go some time when its more convenient for me
18:41 < krisk> eh I could just take up free days, I have plenty
18:41 < sir_lewk> american programming practices are very straightforward:
18:41 < sir_lewk> outsource. >_>
18:41 < krisk> lulz
18:41 <+jr19> heh
18:41 <@E-J> maybe it's better that krisk goes to states while there isn't snow
18:41 < sir_lewk> there is snow in texas even right now
18:42 < krisk> yeah I'd rather go when the weather is nice and the girls are out ; )
18:42 < sir_lewk> maybe florida
18:42 < sir_lewk> miami or something
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18:45 <@chronomex> or seattle
18:45 <@chronomex> we don't have snow here either
18:45 <@chronomex> at least not this year
18:45 <@chronomex> it's apparently a big problem for hte olympics
18:45 <@chronomex> they had to truck in snow
18:46  * chronomex --> work
18:47 < Randomist> Snowpocalyspe!
18:50 < sir_lewk> ^^^
18:50 < sir_lewk> they should have hosted the olympics in philly
18:50 < sir_lewk> plenty of snow here
18:50 < j-b-r> Wait, people are saying "snowpocalypse" over here too?
18:50 < j-b-r> Gah
18:51 < sir_lewk> yup
18:51 < sir_lewk> my roommates friend was saying it all day wednesday
18:51 <@E-J> sound retard
18:51 <+jr19> i believe i first used snowpocalypse
18:52 < j-b-r> Well my friends have all been saying it too
18:52 <@E-J> sounds*
18:52 < j-b-r> I guess it must have occurred to a bunch of people all over the world simultaneously 
18:52 < sir_lewk> E-J: oh, he his :)
18:52 < sir_lewk> *he is
18:52 < sir_lewk> guess I am too
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18:54 <+jr19> i have to go to one of the most evil places on earth on lunch to buy a gift card
18:56 <@E-J> microsoft?
18:57 < mokomull> teehee
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18:57  * mokomull will soon be employed by MS :)
18:58 < bsparks> niice
18:59 <+jr19> E-J: no, best buy
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19:13 < sir_lewk> oh goodness
19:13 < sir_lewk> get them an amazon giftcard or something
19:13 < sir_lewk> do you hate this person?
19:13 <@chronomex> this week I got a 250G laptop drive from bedbuy for $40 after rebates
19:13 <@chronomex> it was decent
19:14 <@chronomex> only went to bestbuy because fry's is an hour longer away
19:14 <@chronomex> and I didn't have time
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19:47 <@E-J> showed sledging accident from olympic practices
19:47 <@nikky> chronomex: Only an hour?
19:47 <@E-J> http://www.vancouver2010.com/olympic-news/n/news/afp-news/luge--georgian-luge-slider-suffers-crash_273772sA.html
19:48 <@nikky> Fun
19:49 < Tahben> was it a brutal accident? exciting?
19:49  * nikky licks sir_lewk 
19:50 < sir_lewk> I am made of popsicle
19:51 <@chronomex> nikky: well it was two hours roundtrip while best buy is like 20 minutes roundtrup
19:51 <@chronomex> but it was at least an hour more
19:54 < sir_lewk> last time I was in a bestbuy I got in a fight with an employee
19:54 <@chronomex> haha nice
19:54 <@chronomex> over what?
19:55 < Tahben> over who gets top and bottom
19:55 < sir_lewk> white external harddrives were marked as $50 more expensive than their black equivalents, so I called bestbuy "fucking retarded", some idiot employee overheard me and got all puffy
19:55 <@chronomex> haha wtf indeed
19:56 < sir_lewk> I came along to advise my father and brother why they shouldn't buy each item they were looking at, so apparently I was annoying the sales guys
19:56 < i_c-Y> thats not uncommon to mark some colors to be more expensive.
19:57 < sir_lewk> yeah, not uncommon, but still fucking retarded ;)
19:57 < Tahben> you were being obscene in public?
19:57 < sir_lewk> meh, free country
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19:57 < efneTI92> [KermM] http://www.cemetech.net :: Leading The Way to the Future
19:58 < sir_lewk> that's not what he was upset about, it was more of a "stop insulting our merchandise and driving off customers"  thing
19:58 < sir_lewk> (customers being family of mine...)
19:58 <@chronomex> fucking retarded
20:00 < sir_lewk> so that is the story of why I don't shop at bestbuy
20:01 <@chronomex> I BELIEVE IT
20:01 <@chronomex> er oops
20:01 <@chronomex> capslock is cruise control for uncool
20:01 <@E-J> believer?
20:05 <+jr19> then i saw her face
20:06 < sir_lewk> now I'm a believer
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20:06 < efneTI92> [KermM_] http://www.cemetech.net :: Leading The Way to the Future
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20:13 <+ports> sir_lewk:  believe.
20:14 <+jr19> good start to the olympics
20:14 <+jr19> http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/35369187/ns/sports-olympic_sports/
20:14 <+ports> jr19:  actually
20:14 <+ports> jr19:  one of the professors i worked with at UIUC.. one of the professors from his department has a daughter thats in the olympics
20:16 <@chronomex> apparently there isn't school monday
20:16 <@chronomex> why didn't anyone tell me
20:16 <+jr19> the luge track must be a bitch
20:16 < KermM_> chronomex, I think everyone assumed you knew about president's day :
20:16 < KermM_> :P
20:16 <@chronomex> jr19: oh dear
20:17 <@chronomex> KermM_: heh, I guess not
20:17 <+ports> jr19:  shes an olympic speed skater.. katherine reutter
20:19 <+jr19> 21 years old
20:19 <+jr19> is she cute?
20:19 <+ports> shes a winner
20:19 <+jr19> well obviously, she's in the olympics
20:19 <+ports> http://media.photobucket.com/image/katherine%20reutter/rocker-u/Reutter-K2.jpg
20:20 <+ports> shes decent yeah
20:20 <+ports> kinda plain..
20:20 <+ports> cute though
20:20 < KermM_> ports- has overly high standards :P
20:20 <+ports> in a... "id like to have sex with her because shes probably really rich in the future" kind of way.
20:21 <+ports> KermM_:  say what?
20:21 <+jr19> ports doesnt have standards, trustme
20:21 <+jr19> ive seen some of the girls he's been with
20:21 <@chronomex> jr19++
20:21 <+ports> hey now
20:21 <@chronomex> pix?
20:21 <+ports> you met the current girl last week.
20:21 <@chronomex> now you made me curious
20:21 <+jr19> lol
20:22 <+ports> i believe you offered to have sex with her because shes hot.
20:22 <+jr19> no i didn't
20:22 <+jr19> what are you talking about
20:22 <+ports> you did 4 months ago when i first met her.
20:22 <@chronomex> I don't care about the current one, what's the previous.
20:22 <+ports> chronomex:  last one was overweight...fat :(
20:23 <+ports> dating her was a really bad idea.
20:23 <@chronomex> pix pix pix
20:23 <+ports> chronomex:  no
20:23 <+jr19> i could tell cassie has put on a little bit of weight
20:23 <+jr19> nothing ridiculous though
20:24 <+ports> jr19: shes working out, doing body combat classes, and is trying to lose 15 lbs..
20:24 <@chronomex> jr19: pix?
20:24 <+jr19> of what
20:24 <@chronomex> the fat girl
20:24 <+jr19> ports has plenty i'm sure
20:24 <+jr19> i dont have access to them
20:24 <@chronomex> fuck man even a facebook link will do
20:25 <+jr19> i think last time i tried to look, it was one of those profiles where the pic was hidden
20:25 <@chronomex> oh
20:25 <+jr19> ports will get mad at me anyway
20:26 <+jr19> hehe
20:26 <@chronomex> :D
20:26 <+jr19> plus im at work and can't navigate facebook well
20:27 <@chronomex> O
20:27 <@chronomex> WELL IM AT WORK TOO
20:27 <@chronomex> TYPING INTO AN UPPERCASE DATABASE
20:28 <+ports> stfu
20:28 <@chronomex> K
20:29 <+jr19> lol uppercase database
20:29 <+ports> i cant get on facebook from work
20:29 < sir_lewk> I bet Joel_S can
20:30 <+ports> jr19:  and she blocked me on fb anyway
20:30 <+jr19> joel_s can press his "log me in" button to log in as any user and be a spy
20:30 <+jr19> ha
20:30 <+ports> jr19:  after i drunk dialed her in may... we decided to never be near eachother again
20:32 <+jr19> that's kinda a hard thing to accomplish when bringing her girth into consideration
20:32 <+jr19> ....
20:32 <+jr19> ok that was just mean
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20:32 <+jr19> /whois komak
20:32 <+ports> nah
20:32 < NotKomak> he's a Cemetech member
20:33 < NotKomak> I'm helping him test out a csript
20:33 <+ports> jr19:  breaking up with her was a great thing for me to do
20:33 <+jr19> orly
20:33 < NotKomak> *script, that is
20:33 <+ports> jr19:  she lost a ton of weight.. she stopped eating for like 6 months
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20:33 < KermM> and it worked
20:33 <+ports> i could tell.. because a lot of the skin on her neck was looser.
20:33 <+jr19> lol stopped eating
20:33 <+jr19> ports used to write a lot of scripts
20:33 <+jr19> he was pretty good at it
20:36 <@chronomex> jr19: they took that out
20:36 <@chronomex> the "log me in as X user" button
20:36 <@chronomex> iirc
20:36 <+jr19> seriously/
20:36 <+jr19> ?
20:36 <+jr19> i just read some article about it a month or two ago
20:36 <+jr19> so it must've been pretty recent
20:37 <@chronomex> well I heard that it's not available for all staff anymore
20:37 <@chronomex> but you know what
20:37 <@chronomex> I don't really care :)
20:37 <@E-J> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6B2ggmzEDM there is taht luge accident
20:38 <+jr19> me neither
20:38 <+jr19> most of them probably have access to the DBs and can just run a simple query
20:38 <@E-J> that*
20:43 < sir_lewk> http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/facebook_wants_to_be_your_one_true_login.php
20:43 < sir_lewk> check out the comments
20:44 < sir_lewk> apparently that page is the first google result for "facebook login"
20:46 < i_c-Y> im still considering amking a facebook
20:51 <+jr19> do it.
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21:30 < efneTI92> [JoeYoung] Just a calm day...
21:34 < sir_lewk> the snack machine stocker is a wiseass
21:34 < sir_lewk> he put the bbq chips in the "A1" slot
21:35 < JoeYoung> Hmm.
21:35 < JoeYoung> I don't get it.
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21:37 <+jr19> i dont get it either
21:37 < sir_lewk> A1 steak sauce
21:37 <+jr19> steak sauce isn't barbecue
21:37 < sir_lewk> seemed obvious to me
21:37 < sir_lewk> meh, such distinctions are lost to me
21:37 <+jr19> heh
21:37 <+jr19> i would've been more impressed if he would've put those "steak fries" up there or whatever they are called
21:37 < sir_lewk> my world is a more colorful and likeable place if this was on purpose
21:39 <@E-J> maybe he tries to make you to buy them or something like that?
21:53 < sir_lewk> maybe
21:53 < sir_lewk> some sort of subliminal trick
21:53 <@E-J> does it work?
21:53 < sir_lewk> it worked on me :)
21:53 < sir_lewk> well, I bought them at least
21:53 < Tahben>  wow, what a wiseass, man
21:54 < sir_lewk> hey, I thought it was clever
21:54 < sir_lewk> anyways
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22:15 <+jr19> har har, i get to have my bofh moment here in a minute
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23:03 < Tahben> wow, what good fortune. my box of six fish sticks contained seven sticks.
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23:09 <@E-J> http://naurunappula.com/545105
23:09 < efneTI92> [JoeYoung] Just a calm day...
23:10 < krisk> bofh?
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23:16 <@E-J> krisk: i assume it means bastard operator from hell
23:16 < krisk> oh right
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23:17 < efneTI92> [Randomist] CAUTION:  Exposure to this user may cause neurological damage.
23:17 <@E-J> http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/02/12/alabama.university.shooting/index.html?hpt=T1
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