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00:13 < SirCmpwn> this channel is looking empty and sad...
00:15 < bsparks> It's _always_ been empty and sad
00:16 < calcdude> and this is the random channel too...
00:16  * dTal is using an 80 column terminal on a 2.8 inch screen
00:17  * bsparks is researching the Classic emulation layer for running PalmOS applications in webOS 
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00:22 <+ports-> man
00:22 <+ports-> i wish i was in NO
00:22 <+JoeYoung> ?
00:22 <+ports-> New Orleans
00:23 <+JoeYoung> ahh
00:23 < E-J> not norway
00:23 < bsparks> I thought he meant Norway
00:23 < E-J> ix is pleased that ports- doesn't want to go there
00:23 <@nikky> Norway?
00:24 <@nikky> MORE LIKE SNORWAY
00:24 <@nikky> GHAW HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW HGAHW
00:24 <+JoeYoung> lol
00:24 < SirCmpwn> ha.  ha.  ha?
00:24 <+JoeYoung> **
00:24 <+JoeYoung> hmm
00:25 < DrDnar> SirCmpwn: Kenya
00:25 < E-J> nikky: did you know that norway has oil, but usa haven't attacked there yet
00:25 < DrDnar> Come to Sunny Kenya.
00:25 < DrDnar> Well, don't give ideas.
00:25 < SirCmpwn> DrDnar: i was just in South Africa a few weeks ago.  im going to go somewhere else before i go back to africa
00:25 < DrDnar> http://www.weebls-stuff.com/songs/kenya/
00:25 < SirCmpwn> ah.  yes.  weebls stuff.
00:26 < DrDnar> No, no, it's a flash animation.
00:26 < SirCmpwn> thats an old, *old* one
00:26 < DrDnar> indeed
00:26 < E-J> !qfind mushroom
00:26 <@efneTI86> 1227:Andy_J: <@Nikky> stop hilighting me | <@Andy_J> Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky [...] Nikky | <@benryves> Mushroom MUSHROOM. | <@Nikky> Die
00:26 <@efneTI86> 1188:chronomex: <Netham45> "Dancing man wearing a horse mask cooks wild mushrooms." | <Netham45> speng0 | <Netham45> the fact you find this shit scares me. | <Speng0> it scares me too to be honest
00:26 <@efneTI86> 1653:DarkAuron: <_Auron_> Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky  <Andy_J> Mushroom MUSHROOM
00:26 <@efneTI86> (All of 3 matches)
00:26 < DrDnar> Flash animations were the Youtube of the early 2000s.
00:26 < SirCmpwn> my favorite is SCIENCE
00:26 < SirCmpwn> dee doo doo doo doo da dee doo
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00:29 <+ix> nikky: haha, snorway
00:29 <+ix> never heard that one before, actually
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00:31 <@nikky> Merthsoft: 
00:31 < Merthsoft> nikky: 
00:31 <@nikky> you rang?
00:31 < Merthsoft> yeah
00:31 < Merthsoft> i was gonna get another domain name and need it to do stuff right
00:31 <@nikky> Did you need thing, honey?
00:31 < Merthsoft> but then i didn't so it's ok
00:31 <@nikky> oky, okay
00:33 <+ports-> ok
00:33 <+ports-> Merthsoft, what is your new domain
00:33 < Merthsoft> i didn't get it
00:34 <+ports-> oh
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00:42 <+JoeYoung> xLib is incompatible with the new OS, it seems.
00:45 < Jonimus> but what about CelticIII?
00:46 <+JoeYoung> real( commands still work.
00:46 <+JoeYoung> I'm testing the others right now
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01:23 < SirCmpwn> buh bye
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01:58 <@Andy_J> Merthsoft: do you guys use pc^2 for your contests?
01:59 < mokomull> ewwwwwwwwwwwww
01:59 < mokomull> I had to run that shit last year
01:59 <@Andy_J> it could be better but it gets the job done
01:59 <@Andy_J> apparently the world finals used something else this year though
02:00 < Merthsoft> Andy_J: yeah
02:00 <@Andy_J> mmk
02:00 <@Andy_J> if they get any new people I'll make sure to do a crash course in it at one of the practices
02:01 < Merthsoft> i can get you the list of editors if you want
02:01 <@Andy_J> assuming nano and/or vim is on that, that's all they'd use
02:01 < Merthsoft> ah, ok
02:01 < Merthsoft> yeah
02:01 < mokomull> We had a team try to put the Java classes in a package ... we had to tell them to stop trying to be clever and just get shit done :)
02:02 <@Andy_J> also apparently the world finals let you use eclipse and the java sdk docs O_o
02:02 <@Andy_J> I installed their image in a vm
02:02 <@Andy_J> http://pc2.ecs.baylor.edu/InstallDirections.html
02:02 < mokomull> Andy_J: I've always seen JDK docs used, at least at regionals.  I assumed it's standard.
02:02 <@Andy_J> not for ECNA
02:03 <@Andy_J> you can't even call the compilers directly, they have a script around it
02:03 <@Andy_J> you can have as much dead tree reference material as you'd like
02:04 <@chronomex> okay I have sunk to a new low
02:04 <@chronomex> I just messaged mha on twitter asking him to please answer my email
02:04 <@Andy_J> no
02:04 <@Andy_J> sinking to a new low would be calling him
02:04 <@chronomex> that's next
02:04 <@chronomex> :P
02:04 <@chronomex> but I don't know what time it is there, probably some unreasonable time
02:04 <@Andy_J> I always thought that the highly restrictive setup they have for the ECNA one was common
02:06 <@Andy_J> we always make sure there are printouts of the important sdk docs... though I think they bought bound dead tree api references by now
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02:10 < Barrett_> I like how my phone knows when I want to hang it up and turns the screen on to let me right at the right moment
02:12 <@chronomex> probably senses that you take it away from your face?
02:12 < Barrett_> yeah, probably... didn't say it was rocket science, just that I like it
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02:30 < SirCmpwn> hooray for the flying spagethii monster
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02:45 < SirCmpwn> who here uses fb?
02:46 <@chronomex> facebook?
02:46 <@chronomex> i have an account
02:46 < SirCmpwn> do u use it? lol
02:46 <@chronomex> sometimes ... why?
02:46 < SirCmpwn> just saw the new layout
02:46 <@chronomex> eh, I don't care about what they do
02:46 <@chronomex> people bitch too much
02:47 < SirCmpwn> lol so unfriend them
02:47 < SirCmpwn> and i like the new layout
02:47 <@chronomex> ok
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02:57 <@_Auron_> it suprised me
02:57 <@_Auron_> and it's annoying how you can't access friends list easily anymore
02:58 <@_Auron_> or at least, noticeably easy
02:58 <@_Auron_> you have to go to Account->Edit Friends (wtf?)
03:03 < Barrett_> _Auron_, you should make the game that I just made with HTML5, but for android
03:04 < Barrett_> surprisingly, there are no results in the market for 3d pong
03:04 < Barrett_> http://lbarrettanderson.com/
03:04 < Barrett_> or maybe I'll make it
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03:11 <@nikky> WHOOP WHOOP
03:11 <@nikky> PULL UP
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03:11 <@nikky> WHOOP WHOOP
03:11 <@nikky> WHOOP WHOOP
03:11 <@nikky> PULL UP
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03:19 < KermM> >_<
03:23 < JoeYoung> lol
03:25 < KermM> Tribal, you did really well :)
03:25 < KermM> erm, wrong chan
03:25 < KermM> that was #ut2k4
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03:41 <@nikky> suck it dry
03:42 < sir_lewk> oooooooh yeaaaaaah
03:43 < sir_lewk> </kool-aid guy voice>
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03:48 < sir_lewk> gnu radio
03:48 < sir_lewk> shit is jazz
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03:58 < JoeYoung> guys, why does TI wanna hold back the release of os 2.53?
03:58 <@chronomex> probably because it's not done yet?
03:58 < JoeYoung> hrmm
03:58 < JoeYoung> I wonder who leaked it.
04:00 < sir_lewk> wait, link me up
04:00 < sir_lewk> who leaked what when, and to who's cat?
04:00 < DrDnar> JoeYoung: It's not being held back.
04:00 < DrDnar> A beta was leaked.
04:01 < JoeYoung> ok then
04:01 < JoeYoung> who leaked the beta? :/
04:01 < DrDnar> Who knows?
04:01 < DrDnar> Don't even try to find out. We'd hate to lose an inside man, even in anonymous. 
04:01 < DrDnar> if*
04:02 < JoeYoung> I wonder if I'd be an inside man one day...
04:02 < sir_lewk> does anyone have a link to the leak, or articles about it?
04:02 < JoeYoung> It's certainly possible.
04:02 < JoeYoung> sir_lewk, google "ti 84 plus se os 2.53"
04:03 < JoeYoung> or something along those lines
04:04 < JoeYoung> a beta for that os was leaked sometime this weekend?
04:06 < JoeYoung> it's crap, mostly, afaik.
04:06 < sir_lewk> does anyone know if they are trying any funny business with it, like related to the cracked keys?
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04:06 < JoeYoung> but it might have some new features...
04:06 < millinao> hey, what's the standard font people use for code/math?
04:06 < JoeYoung> sir_lewk, i doubt it.
04:06 < sir_lewk> looks like compatibility issues, maybe intentional?
04:06 < millinao> is it monospace?
04:06 < JoeYoung> that fish was blown clear out of the water.
04:07 < JoeYoung> TI won't be able to recover from that.
04:07 < JoeYoung> it's a hardware thing, I think.
04:07 < sir_lewk> millinao: yes, a monospaced font.  whatever font xterm defaults to
04:09 < Jonimus> millinao: I like the proggyfonts for code and Deja Vu Sans mono for everything else
04:09 < millinao> ooh i forgot about proggyfonts
04:11 < sir_lewk> I can't code with anything but a monospaced font, it doesn't make a huge difference what kind of monospaced font I'm using though
04:12 < Jonimus> sir_lewk: I agree, but the proggyfonts are rather nice for coding IMO
04:13 < sir_lewk> can't say I'm familar with what those are
04:14 < millinao> i'll just use deja vu, openoffice doesn't want me to use proggyfonts
04:14 < sir_lewk> oh, these look pretty similar to what xterm defaults to
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04:18 < millinao> i'm not a typography douchebag, I don't care that the 'a' has one more pixel of sarif
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04:19 <@chronomex> I can't code with courier, it's way too light
04:21 < sir_lewk> xfontsel is pretty slick stuff
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04:23 < millinao> http://i.imgur.com/4Ko89.jpg
04:26 < JoeYoung> lol
04:27 < j-b-r> I can post links too...
04:27 < j-b-r> http://i.imgur.com/jz3Wf.png
04:27 < sir_lewk> that makes very little sense to me millinao
04:28 < Merthsoft> ahahaha millinao 
04:29 < millinao> sir_lewk, do you know about dnd
04:30 < j-b-r> Ok, it's mildly lol
04:30 < millinao> notice the second paragraph of the first post: he called them cowards, annoying the other PCs, and then the DM let them reroll their fear checks
04:30 < millinao> this is pretty well written
04:31 < millinao> the entire time he was making drunk and obscene comments he was actually casting things like anti-fear on the other players, the entire time without them knowing
04:32 < j-b-r> I don't really get it, though. So they thought it was a dumb annoying character, but he was actually helping them all?
04:32 < millinao> yeah, basically
04:32 < j-b-r> Yeah, mildly lol
04:33 < millinao> it's only funny if you like dnd, heh
04:34 < sir_lewk> oh, I see
04:35 < sir_lewk> so nobody knew what class he was?  is it normal to not tell people that?
04:36 < millinao> yeah, it depends how legit the DM is
04:37 < j-b-r> I don't get why you would do that whole thing, though
04:37 < j-b-r> Like, he was just playing up one big joke for a year?
04:38 < sir_lewk> seems like I'd probably still consider him a dick >_>
04:38 < millinao> i don't see it as dickish
04:38 < j-b-r> I mean, I guess I'd feel pretty good about myself if I pulled something like that off
04:39 < millinao> and yeah, he misrepresented what class he was for a YEAR
04:39 < millinao> that's a long time to play a paladin and not let anyone else know you are
04:40 < j-b-r> I got the calling them cowards thing, but what was the beard shaving thing?
04:40 < millinao> i'm guessing that was him preparing to reveal that he was a paladin
04:41 < millinao> a drunken fat oaf is basically the complete opposite of what a paladin should look like
04:42 < JoeYoung> says who?
04:42 < j-b-r> So shaving the beard has nothing to do with smiting the Lich?
04:43 < millinao> JoeYoung, says the dnd rulebook and fantasy lore in general
04:44 < millinao> j-b-r, nah, it's just symbolism
04:44 < JoeYoung> It's just a class.
04:44 < JoeYoung> It could have been, say, a paldin that has fallen from grace.
04:44 < j-b-r> Yeah
04:44 < j-b-r> And it was
04:44 < j-b-r> It was just unexpected
04:44 < JoeYoung> but still technically a paladin
04:44 < j-b-r> He was a paladin
04:44 < millinao> that's why I said "should look like"
04:44 < j-b-r> It was just a surprise
04:44 < JoeYoung> in any case, it was an amusing little story
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06:41 < Genolo> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRRlALJtDRg&feature=fvw
06:41 < Genolo> that'd be hilarious in school.
06:41 < Genolo> i somehow got there from the blue tooth video
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07:12 < DSP_Lord> LostnCalc: please don't do that.
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07:12 < DSP_Lord> welp;
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09:20 < efneTI92> [DSP_Lord] I'm not a ninja, no idea what you're talking about.
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09:31 < efneTI92> [leofox] All we do in hell is play DDR!
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09:59 < efneTI92> [DSP_Lord] I'm not a ninja, no idea what you're talking about.
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10:19 < E-J> sir_lewk: http://maps.google.fi/maps?ie=UTF8&ll=60.187879,24.836977&spn=0,359.990355&t=h&z=17&layer=c&cbll=60.18795,24.837116&panoid=aY7RllrNMZdgVb0zTkzqOw&cbp=12,102.29,,3,-9.16
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12:57 < Mathopota> Hello all.  How're ya'll doin?
12:58 < Mathopota> Is anyone up?  I was trying to decide on which graphing calculator to buy, and I can't decide amongst the big 3.  TI-89 Titanium, HP50G, or Casio Classpad 330
12:59 < Mathopota> Any input would be invaluable.
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13:24 < dTal> Did somebody just join an irc channel devoted to TI CALCULATORS and ask which brand was the best?
13:27 <+ix> And what's up with the Classpad? I prefer not having to use *two* pens when doing math.
13:51 <@Andy_J> he was smart enough to ask if anybody was up but not to stay for more than 8 minutes
13:58 < Tribal> lol
14:01 < E-J> 8 minutes should be enough
14:01 < Tribal> Normally, yeah
14:01 < Tribal> But they're isn't much activity this morning
14:06 < E-J> i was sarcastic
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14:08 < Tribal> Meh, whatever. In the afternoon's 8min would have prob. been long enough for at least someone to answer
14:10 < E-J> google street view has come to finland, so some people paste things like this http://tinyurl.com/yfw2jh3 to channels
14:10 < E-J> some drunk caught in middle of day
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14:24 <+jr19> yes
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14:43 < sir_lewk> http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=10/02/09/027217 once again the gimp is gimped because certain obsolete operating systems suck at window management.
14:45 <@Andy_J> sir_lewk: rebuttal http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1542298&cid=31071568
14:45 <@Andy_J> smart move on their part, honestly
14:46 < E-J> http://maps.google.fi/maps?f=q&source=embed&hl=fi&geocode=&q=&sll=62.242644,25.761709&sspn=0.001389,0.004136&ie=UTF8&hq=Annankatu,&hnear=&layer=c&cbll=60.166447,24.935401&panoid=Wbhtty4Gtx6fx9U9QrMOVw&cbp=12,310.76,,3,7.91&ll=60.169952,24.94626&spn=0,359.922838&z=14&iwloc=A&cid=12208120300639378040
14:46 < sir_lewk> yeah, I know.  it's disabled by default and all
14:46 < sir_lewk> but I just wanted to say "the gimp gets gimped" ;)
14:46 < sir_lewk> that's quite the url there E-J :)
14:47 < dTal> disabled by default? *shakes head*
14:47 < E-J> sir_lewk: blame google
14:47 < E-J> sir_lewk: did you see the first one
14:47 < E-J> with darth
14:48 < sir_lewk> dTal: considering enabling that by default would alienate all of their current users, I'd say it's a good idea
14:48 < sir_lewk> lol, very nice E-J
14:48 < dTal> but the current interface is crap
14:49 < dTal> existing users can turn on the old one if they want
14:50 < sir_lewk> why should existing users have to change?  keeping your current customers happy should always be a businesses first priority
14:51 <@Andy_J> should be an installer option
14:51 < sir_lewk> it's not like they are getting paid for gimp, they don't have a finacial incentive to attract new users
14:51 < sir_lewk> Andy_J++
14:51 < sir_lewk> good idea
14:52 < sir_lewk> or "first run dialog" option, for systemwide installation
14:52 < dTal> no, no open source program has a financial incentive
14:52 < dTal> attracting new users is all there is
14:53 <@Andy_J> there is always financial incentive
14:53 < dTal> and not all gimps will have installers
14:53 < dTal> some will be installed with package management
14:54 < sir_lewk> attracting new users is hardly all there is.  maybe the developers use the software themselves (I would hope so...) and thus have a personal stake in how the software develops.  maybe they just enjoy making software that other people like using, and the negative feedback they would get from longtime users is enough of a reason to not change it (and they are already used to negative feedback from the photoshop camp)
14:55 < sir_lewk> "< dTal> some will be installed with package management"  agreed, first run dialogs would cover that case
14:57 < sir_lewk> first run is the ideal way of configuring software imho.  more things should do it
14:57 < sir_lewk> zsh does it quite effectively, quite nice.
14:57 < sir_lewk> hmm, looks like I'm about an hour away from getting pwnd by snow
15:00 < mokomull> sir_lewk: problem with first-run on a lot of things is people don't know how they're even going to use it... I sure didn't when I started using zsh.
15:01 < sir_lewk> yeah, I suppose so
15:02 < sir_lewk> first time I did it I was on the train so I just sat down and worked on it for an hour or so
15:02 < sir_lewk> I can see zsh's being a bit intimidating though
15:05 < sir_lewk> is accuweather.com slow as balls for anyone else?
15:06 < Jonimus> sir_lewk: yeah ti was doing that to me also
15:07 < Jonimus> also Woo kernel 2.6.33-rc7 greatly improved performance on my laptops HD 4670 Mobile :)
15:07 < Jonimus> and the battery life had a bit of an increase also
15:09 < sir_lewk> nice
15:10 < sir_lewk> I think I'm on 2.6.33-r6, from fedora's rawhide
15:10 < E-J> 2.6.31-19
15:10 < Jonimus> sir_lewk: nice, have you been using the Open Radeon driver as well or are you on 2.6.33-rc for a different reason?
15:11 < sir_lewk> yes, I didn't realize the preformance was better for the radeon driver though
15:12 < sir_lewk> I jumped to it to see if it would clear up a wifi issue I'm having (bandwidth drops to zero for a second or two, every few minutes or so)
15:13 < Jonimus> sir_lewk: well catalyst is still better 3D wise but Arch uses a newer Xorg than it supports so I'd rather not both downgrading to use it
15:15 < dTal> sir_lewk: could be bad connection? Disassociating with the AP tends to hurt bandwidth...
15:19 < sir_lewk> dTal: no, it never actually disassociates, it's weird
15:20 < sir_lewk> bbl, work dumped on me
15:21 < E-J> Jonimus: which version you would prefer, i think i use now radeonhd but it isn't work as good i would want
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15:56 < efneTI92> [DSP_Lord] I'm not a ninja, no idea what you're talking about.
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15:58 < Jonimus> E-J: RadeonHD is not developed nearly as much as radeon is atm
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15:59 < Jonimus> The only reason to use radeonhd right now is if you need HDMI audio otherwise Radeon is better
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16:01 < E-J> ok
16:02 < E-J> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Lönnrotinkatu&sll=60.165447,24.935862&sspn=0.007611,0.01929&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Lönnrotinkatu,+Helsinki,+Finland&ll=60.1655,24.936004&spn=0.007569,0.01929&t=h&z=16&layer=c&cbll=60.165447,24.935862&panoid=OfFuPv0Ycae13E5v9HgMYA&cbp=12,332.17,,1,22.22
16:03 <+Tyler2> E-J, ?
16:05 < E-J> \,,/
16:05 <+Tyler2> You?
16:05 < E-J> nah
16:06 < E-J> i didn't see those cars when they did their job
16:06 <+Tyler2> Thats insane how they pretty much have every city block mapped to detail like that
16:07 < E-J> apparently last summer had many sunny days so they got covered almost entire finland
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16:09 < efneTI92> [KermM] http://www.cemetech.net :: Leading The Way to the Future
16:10 < E-J> thoug that guy looks little like me, except i wouldn't have wife beater t-shirt, that kind of backpack and sneakers
16:11 < E-J> hmmm, and i normally don't use that side of road since my parents live at other side of road :)
16:37 < E-J> Jonimus: apparently i should use fglrx since i have hd 3650, if i read this correctly https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
16:38 < sir_lewk> does fglrx still support your card?
16:38 < sir_lewk> they drop support for cards after like 6months now >_<
16:39 < sir_lewk> batches keep on dumping work on me
16:39 < sir_lewk> don't they know I'm not a truck?  I'm a series of tubes
16:40 < E-J> sir_lewk: last time i tried to use radeon-drivers they didn't work
16:40 < E-J> so i have used radeonhd since then
16:50 < E-J> well, fglrx works
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16:57 < sir_lewk> radeonhd supported mine before radeon, but radeon has worked for me for around 2 years now or so
16:57 < sir_lewk> I have an r500 though, sounds like you have an r600 or r700 I guess
16:58 < E-J> r600
16:59 < sir_lewk> yeah, I think radeon support for that is still a WIP
17:00 < E-J> i used to have hd2600 but it broke so i sent it back to shop since guarantee was still "on" and i got hd3650 back
17:00 <@nikky> nice!
17:00 < sir_lewk> if you are using fedora, I believe you can get 3d with the radeon driver and a r600
17:00 < E-J> or at least lspci says it's 3650
17:00 < E-J> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV635 PRO AGP [Radeon HD 3650]
17:00 < E-J> i'm using kubuntu
17:00 < sir_lewk> ah, ok
17:00 <+jr19> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Cirrus Logic GD 5446
17:00 <@nikky> boo
17:01 <+jr19> WINRAR
17:01 < Jonimus> E-J: well if yo go with a newer kernel you can get KMS which may or may not matter to you
17:01 < Jonimus> but then radeon is def the better option
17:01 < E-J> kms?
17:02 < Jonimus> Kernel Mode Setting
17:02 <@nikky> KDE Makes Shit
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17:02 < KermM> .!k Nikky cursing?
17:02 < KermM> or don't we enforce that anymore?
17:02 <@nikky> THIS IS #TCPARTA
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17:02 < E-J> KermM: not anymore, at least not while mv isn't around
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17:03 < Jonimus> it give you hires console and removes the need for a virtual section in your xorg.conf
17:03 < Jonimus> as well as other things
17:05 < E-J> hmmm i think i'll check how to put that on
17:06 <@nikky> I'm against xorg.conf
17:07 < Jonimus> E-J: for your card you'll need 2.6.32 with the staging driver enabled
17:07 < sir_lewk> diaf nikky, KMS is awesome
17:07 < Jonimus> but I think there is a repo with all that stuff that you could just add to repo list
17:08 < sir_lewk> course you wouldn't know that,  I think debian is scheduled to get it sometime in 2027
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17:09 <@nikky> haw haw
17:09 <@nikky> nice joke
17:09 <@nikky> fedoratard
17:10 < sir_lewk> ubuntard
17:10 < Jonimus> http://wiki.x.org/wiki/radeonBuildHowTo#Packagesfordistributions
17:10 < Jonimus> E-J: ^
17:12 <+krisk> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifA1AQe_NF0&feature=player_embedded
17:12 <+krisk> damn
17:12 < sir_lewk> "Kernel side mode setting improves VT switching and provides full resolution console." awesome
17:13 < Jonimus> sir_lewk: yeah the one thing I've noticed is the input on my VT's seems to lag a little so entering passwords is a pain, though I'm not sure if that is caused by useing KMS or not
17:15 < sir_lewk> I don't think I've noticed that
17:15 < sir_lewk> my main beef right now is the permissions for the framebuffer device are set too restrictive by default in fedora
17:16 < sir_lewk> kms VTs + fbterm + 256 colors == supreme awesomeness though
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17:16 < Jonimus> ahh well I though you wanted fbcon not fbterm...
17:16 < Jonimus> but yeah KMS wins
17:16 < nicolas> fbacon.. yummy
17:17 < Jonimus> also nice krisk 
17:17 < Jonimus> sir_lewk: yeah I think my issue is an input related bug and not due to KMS
17:18 < sir_lewk> haven't heard of fbacon
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17:18 < nicolas> sir_lewk: of course not .... it was a joke... about me liking bacon :D
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17:18 < sir_lewk> oh, lol :D
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17:19 < sir_lewk> read it as "eff be aye con" :)
17:19 < nicolas> heh,. yeah I figured :p
17:20 < sir_lewk> anyways, there isn't a way to make fbcon do 256 colors is there?
17:20 < sir_lewk> without using something else like fbterm?
17:21 <+jr19> mmm bacon
17:21 < sir_lewk> I had some canadian bacon the other day, that is good stuff
17:22 <+jr19> i had some on a pizza
17:22 < sir_lewk> oh, nice
17:22 < sir_lewk> I'm making a pizza tonight, because it's going to be blizzarding
17:22 <+jr19> i assumed you ate pizza every night
17:23 < nicolas> sir_lewk: home made?
17:24 < nicolas> I'm having a mini craving for pizza now :P
17:25 < E-J> nicolas: isn't there some turkish "hairhand" place that could make and deliver cheap pizza for you?
17:26 < E-J> here those places are sometimes called hairhand places
17:31 < Jonimus> sir_lewk: IDK never tired 256 colors
17:31 < Jonimus> W/e it defaults to is enough for me
17:31 < E-J> too tired to write tried?
17:32 < Jonimus> lol yeah I guess
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17:39 < sir_lewk> nicolas: oh yeah
17:39 < sir_lewk> not homemade dough, but I roll it myself at least
17:40 <@nikky> ...
17:40 <@nikky> Not real then
17:46 <+jr19> chinese buffet for lunch?
17:47 < E-J> http://dy.fi/4x
17:48 < Jonimus> nice E-J 
17:50 <+jr19> is the link relevant to my lunch suggestion
17:50 < E-J> maybe
17:51 <+jr19> i suppose it is
17:51 <+jr19> but would prefer something within walking distance since i dont want to clean my car off on my lunch hour
17:54 < sir_lewk> nikky: my tongue disagrees
17:54 < sir_lewk> I can make pizza dough, but I don't have a mixing bowl right now
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18:00 < efneTI92> [Tar1] Remember, remember the 5th of November
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18:52 < E-J> google's blur works fine: http://maps.google.fi/maps?ie=UTF8&ll=60.170517,24.94213&spn=0,359.990355&t=h&z=17&layer=c&cbll=60.170501,24.941371&panoid=FqaRPgYkXbqUGDfIL1xvGw&cbp=12,347.81,,2,-14.4
18:53 <+Tyler2> I agree
18:54 <+Tyler2> Pretty sensitive to any faces/brands
18:56 <+ports-> hey
18:58 < j-b-r> I'm experiencing confusion.
18:58 < j-b-r> Why do statues need privacy now?
18:58 < Tahben> because we are all entitled to privacy
18:59 < E-J> maybe he has asked
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19:01 < E-J> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glGGnJcLfuQ
19:09 <+krisk> anyone up for an increasing squat by 40kgs in 8 weeks or similar challenge?
19:11 <+jr19> is this a competition
19:11 <+ports-> jr19, hey..
19:11 <+jr19> whats up
19:11 <+ports-> jr19, gamefly gave me a free month for losing my game
19:11 <+krisk> no that wouldnt be fair because everyone would have different starting points
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19:11 <+jr19> lol what
19:11 <+jr19> didnt you steal the game
19:12 <+ports-> because playon scammed me :<
19:12 <+ports-> i like netflix more than gamefly..
19:12 <+ports-> my primary shipping center is like here in Chicago for netflix....  my gamefly games come from Pittsburgh
19:13 <+krisk> hmm i guess the challenge might be more fair to race to 300lbs?
19:13 <+ports-> krisk, no
19:14 <+ports-> krisk, a fair race would be.. who can increase their squating capacity by X lbs first
19:14 <+ports-> everyone practices for 1 week... then you record what they squat at the end of the week....  then you race to see who can increase by X lbs..
19:14 <+krisk> no because increasing from 100lbs to 200 is easyer than from 400- to 500
19:14 <+ports-> meh
19:15 <+ports-> i think mine is the only mathematically fair way
19:15 <+jr19> lol 100lb squat
19:15 <+krisk> theyre might be a point where both methods are equal
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19:16 <+jr19> i have DOMS today, more than usual i think
19:16 <+jr19> and i have to play volleyball tonight
19:16 <+jr19> meh
19:18 <+Tyler2> Another facefook fail moment...
19:20 <+krisk> ...
19:20 <+jr19> what
19:20 <+jr19> i was waiting for it
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19:30 <+ports-> jr19, anyways yeah.. i just got my moneys worth for playon
19:31 <+jr19> alright
19:33 <+ports-> im ordering some new business cards
19:34 <+Tyler2> Know of any Xming servers that work on Windows 7?
19:36 < Barrett_> Xming servers?
19:37 < DrDnar> My parents won't let me run an electric heater out here. They will, however, let me run a pair computers with CPUs locked to maximum clock . . .
19:38 < Barrett_> Tyler2, Xming works on windows 7.... if that's what you mean...
19:38 <+Tyler2> Hmm, the version on the SF.net doesn't like 64-bit version of Windows 7 for some reason
19:39 <+Tyler2> Always locks up in about 5 minutes of use
19:39 <+Tyler2> Never done that on Vista :S
19:40 < Barrett_> interesting... I don't use it very much, but when I have, I don't think I've had very many issues
19:40 < Barrett_> well, wait..c ome to think of it, it did crash every once in a while.. but not after 5 minutes
19:40 <+Tyler2> Worked flawlessy on Vista when I had it
19:41 < Barrett_> what programs is it displaying for you?
19:43 <+Tyler2> Usually firefox so I can access a moodle so I can download homework onto my account at the University
19:43 <+Tyler2> But it has crashed with DIA and ddd
19:43 < Barrett_> ah... yeah, firefox is what gave me the most issues
19:43 < Barrett_> try lynx or links
19:44 < Barrett_> :)
19:44 <+Tyler2> ya
19:44 <+Tyler2> Think I might have to
19:44 < Barrett_> do you have a web accessible directory on that account?
19:44 < Barrett_> oh wait, download stuff to your account there?
19:44 <+Tyler2> ya
19:44 < Barrett_> can you use wget?
19:44 <+Tyler2> No, need to be logged into moodle
19:45 <+Tyler2> Lynx it is
19:46 < Barrett_> alternatively, if they aren't huge files, you can download them to your computer and then use one of a variety of methods to get it on the account
19:46 <+Tyler2> Ya
19:46 <+Tyler2> I could just use winscp
19:47 <+Tyler2> Or I could not be lazy and boot into Fedora
19:47 <+Tyler2> :P
19:47 < Barrett_> yeah, was just gonna say... or virtualize it
19:49 <+ports-> Barrett_, do you have business cards?
19:49 < Barrett_> nope
19:50 <+ports-> i need you to get some
19:50 < Barrett_> what for?
19:51 <+ports-> to be a LinkedIn professional
19:51 < Barrett_> for you to be one?
19:51 < Barrett_> or me?
19:51 <+ports-> you
19:52 < Barrett_> why do you need me to be a linkedin professional?
19:52 < Barrett_> and how does having business cards make that happen?
19:52 <+ports-> because i said so
19:52 <+ports-> so you can hand them out and be like "come use my web host"
19:54 < Barrett_> typo!  its*
19:54 < Barrett_> on your summary
19:55 <+ports-> fixed
19:55 <+ports-> and i did your recommendation just now
19:57 < Barrett_> yayyy
19:57 < Barrett_> 95% profile completeness
19:57 < Barrett_> one more recommendation
19:57 < Barrett_> also, I'd recommend you, but there doesn't seem to be a category for it
19:58 <+ports-> s'ok
19:58 <+ports-> i dont really use my linkedin
19:58 <+krisk> isnt there a misc category
19:58 <+krisk> general
19:58 <+krisk> other?
19:58 < Barrett_> the one that most matches is "Business Partner"
19:58 <+ports-> krisk, id prefer recommendation related to my work
19:59 <+ports-> im just a customer of Barretts..
19:59 <+ports-> he doesnt know me as an engineer
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20:10 <+krisk> yeah k
20:28 <+ports-> what else do i need on my business card?
20:29 <+ports-> name, title, phone/fax, email... ?
20:29 <+ports-> and i put a large "P" in the top corner..
20:29 < Genolo> i got the shiny pichu from gamestop
20:29 < Genolo> just sayin'
20:29 <+Tyler2> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoIvd3zzu4Y
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20:36 <@_Auron_> almost 2 months ago I was 195lbs
20:37 <@_Auron_> I'm 176lbs now
20:37 <+krisk> :(
20:37 <@_Auron_> ?
20:42 < elfprince> this is the 1337th mesage in tcpa since I last read one
20:42 < E-J> http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&source=hp&q=rugdeveien+39+bergen&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Rugdeveien+39,+5097+Bergen,+Hordaland,+Norway&ei=MZdxS6TcINP3-AaknPWWCw&ved=0CAkQ8gEwAA&layer=c&cbll=60.360884,5.369468&panoid=vIlVwLm8kDoxekaRJ0MwdQ&t=h&cbp=12,287.34,,1,16.46&ll=60.360887,5.369654&spn=0.00065,0.001725&z=19
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21:01 < efneTI92> [Tar1] Remember, remember the 5th of November
21:02 < elfprince> E-J: did you have something to do with that?
21:02 < elfprince> lol
21:13 < E-J> elfprince: nah, ix might have, i haven't ever been in norway
21:21 <+ix> haha
21:21 <+ix> bergen is a long way from here!
21:21 <+ix> but I really enjoyed that stunt nonetheless :-D
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21:34 < Genolo> i just had 2 corn dogs
21:34 < Genolo> with just uncooked batter on them
21:35 < Genolo> never again
21:36 <+jr19> what the fuck
21:37 < sir_lewk> good god man, why?
21:37 < sir_lewk> just cook em
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21:38 < Genolo> i just god home from a hard day i don't feel like it
21:38 < Genolo> oh fuck my micro sd usb thingy just
21:38 < Genolo> it just went insideout
21:38 <+jr19> a hard day at high school
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21:39 < Genolo> yes
21:39 < Genolo> i dropped my ipod touch down 3 flights of stairs
21:39 <+jr19> does it still work
21:40 < Genolo> yes
21:40 <+jr19> then its a good day
21:40 <+jr19> stop being so negative Genolo 
21:42 < sir_lewk> what kind of ipod is it?
21:42 <+jr19> he said it was an ipod touch
21:42 < sir_lewk> then I advise you try it again.
21:43 <+jr19> oh
21:43 < Genolo> rofl
21:43 <+jr19> i thought maybe there was some ipod touch variation that i wasn't aware of
21:43 <+jr19> THE ITOUCH PAD
21:43 < Genolo> anyway it's taking forever to rip this save file from my pokémon pearl cart
21:43 < sir_lewk> NO NO
21:43 < sir_lewk> IPAD NANO
21:43 <+jr19> YES
21:43 < sir_lewk> the last good ipods where the 5th gen ipod videos
21:44 < Genolo> ipad nano is an ipod touch
21:44 < Genolo> i shall now refer to ipod touches as ipad nanos
21:44 < sir_lewk> yup yup yup
21:44 < sir_lewk> that's what I'm doing
21:44 <+jr19> i think mine is a 4th generation ipod
21:44 <+jr19> i dont even know
21:44 <+jr19> it plays music and video though
21:44 <+jr19> and its scratched up like a mofo
21:45 < E-J> http://kuvaton.com/bshit/1_metric.jpg
21:45 <+jr19> i hardly ever use it.
21:45 < Genolo> don't get an ipod
21:45 < Genolo> get a real music player
21:45 < sir_lewk> get a 5th gen and put rockbox on it
21:46 <+jr19> who said i was getting an ipod
21:46 <+jr19> i said i have an ipod
21:46 < E-J> get a archos
21:46 < Genolo> woo
21:46 < Genolo> http://genolo.nvm2u.com/pichgamestop%5bPARTYPKM%5d.pkm)
21:46 < E-J> an*
21:46 < Genolo> that is the shiny pichu from gamestop
21:46 < Genolo> that they are giving out this week
21:46 < Genolo> i finally dumped it
21:46 < Genolo> i don't think anyone knows how to use it
21:46 < Genolo> but now i have a backup
21:47 < Genolo> if i did it right
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22:49 < efneTI92> [JoeYoung] Just a calm day...
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23:09 <+JoeYoung> lol @ the openpandora team
23:09 <+JoeYoung> now I'm glad I didn't put down a pre-order.
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23:11 <@chronomex> JoeYoung: ?
23:11 <+JoeYoung> chronomex ?
23:11 <@chronomex> what did they do?
23:11 <+JoeYoung> Well, they got their cases in early.
23:12 <+JoeYoung> And they were complete and utter crap.
23:12 <@chronomex> source?
23:12 <+JoeYoung> deveolpers blog
23:13 <@chronomex> o
23:13 <+JoeYoung> in any case, rather than making people wait longer, they're gonna release the test batch of 4000 with these cases, and just fix the problem whenever they start mass-producing.
23:14 <@chronomex> their blog says that the reason they were lousy is that they were done with test-fit quality, not with final-run quality
23:15 <@chronomex> not an unexpected setback
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23:17 < SirCmpwn> has anyone seen a user called DaFish around?
23:17 < E-J> what is openpandora?
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23:25 < j-b-r> Oh look, more pandora chat
23:25 < leofox> openpandora is the plan of some guys to build open source avatar bodies
23:25 < j-b-r> JoeYoung: Did you actually read all the info that's avaliable on that front? It turns out the issue with the sample cases was just the fact that they were samples
23:26 < j-b-r> Apparently it's impossible to make samples from injection molding that don't look like crap
23:26 < j-b-r> They only look right if you let the machine run for hours or something
23:26 <@chronomex> that's what I told him, but thanks for taking the time to type it out :)
23:27 <+JoeYoung> oh, i guess i misinterpreted what they were trying to say.
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23:28 <+krisk> leofox: wat
23:28 < leofox> krisk lol I have no idea
23:28 <+krisk> sleepppp
23:29 < j-b-r> Well at a certain point, the devs didn't know it worked like that
23:29 < j-b-r> So at one point they were saying exactly what you said
23:29 < j-b-r> So you may not have misinterpreted anything, your info might have just been out of date
23:30 < j-b-r> Unlike you, I preordered... I'm hoping it wasn't a mistake.
23:30 < j-b-r> People laugh at me, they ask "When are you going to admit that thing you bought is a hoax?"
23:30 < j-b-r> Someday, hopefully, I'll show them
23:31 <+JoeYoung> People ask you that?
23:31 <@chronomex> hahaha j-b-r you fell for a hoax
23:31  * chronomex ducks
23:31 < j-b-r> Yeah, I talked a lot about it back a year ago, when I thought I was actually going to have it by now
23:32 < j-b-r> And I never got it, so people assume it was because it was a scam
23:32 < E-J> leofox: i assume it's something to do with that pandora web radio
23:32 < E-J> maybe i stick with free version of spotify
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23:34 < efneTI92> [DSP_Lord] I'm not a ninja, no idea what you're talking about.
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23:39 < efneTI92> [KermM_] http://www.cemetech.net :: Leading The Way to the Future
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23:51 < SirCmpwn> there you are!
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23:52 <@nikky> ?
23:52 <+ports-> ok
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