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00:02 < SirCmpwn> that happened.  it keeps saying everyone left the channel and wont let me join any others for a few minutes, saying they are all temporarily unavailabe
00:02 <@nikky> Barrett: amazon fresh
00:02 <@nikky> yeah, it was a netsplit
00:03 < Barrett> nikky, ... only in seattle
00:03 <@nikky> Well, sucks to be you.
00:03 < Barrett> all of the zip codes start with 98
00:03 <@nikky> :)
00:04 < SirCmpwn> netsplit?
00:04  * nikky notes that his zipcode is one of those
00:04 <@nikky> It's where the servers get disconnected
00:04 <@nikky> from one another
00:04 < SirCmpwn> ah.  that sux.
00:04 <@nikky> in the past, people would exploit this to take over channels and nicks and stuff
00:04 <@nikky> so when they happen, they're pretty locked down
00:04 <@nikky> but luckily netsplits are pretty rare these days
00:05 < SirCmpwn> oh, i see.  i have never been hip with the irc lingo, i usually just talk on channels
00:05 <@nikky> and don't last very long
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00:05 < Barrett> I hate scheme. so much.
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00:09 < E-J> here if your zip code would start with 98, it would mean that you live in kemijärvi, which is about middle of nowher... i mean lappland
00:10 < E-J> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kemijärvi
00:10 < E-J> so seattle is like kemijärvi?
00:11 <@nikky>  Yay Lappland!
00:14  * Randomist is going to miss, in the future, remembering just four octets for IPV4 as opposed to four words for IPV6.
00:15 < Barrett> Randomist, probably no one will memorize them anymore and will use different means to retrieve them
00:15 <@nikky> exactly
00:16 <@nikky> I already reserved barrett.anderson.is.my.god.com for my system
00:20 < Barrett> interesting
00:21 < Barrett> I reserved a similar one
00:22 < Barrett> nikky.southerland.is.my.hoe.com
00:22 <@nikky> yay!
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00:27 <+glk> McGill University researchers have discovered the oldest rocks on Earth ­ a
00:27 <+glk> discovery which sheds more light on our planet's mysterious beginnings. These
00:27 <+glk> rocks, known as "faux-amphibolites", may be remnants of a portion of Earth's
00:27 <+glk> primordial crust ­ the first crust that formed at the surface of our planet.
00:27 <+glk> The ancient rocks were found in Northern Quebec, along the Hudson's Bay coast,
00:27 <+glk> 40 km south of Inukjuak in an area known as the Nuvvuagittuq greenstone belt.
00:27 <+glk> The discovery was made by Jonathan O'Neil, a Ph.D. candidate at McGill's
00:27 <+glk> Department of Earth and Planetary Sciences, Richard W. Carlson, a researcher
00:27 <+glk> at the Carnegie Institution for Science in Washington, D.C., Don Francis, a
00:27 <+glk> McGill professor in the Department of Earth and Planetary Sciences, and Ross
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00:28 < Randomist> Whoooooooa.
00:28 < incubeous> wtf?
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00:28 < Randomist> glk:  You could have just posted the link.  :P
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00:28 <+glk> sorry   error
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00:30 < leofox> are there raptors?
00:30  * Randomist points at Nikky.
00:30 < incubeous> Glk = troll
00:31 <@nikky> It's okay glk 
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00:48 < SirCmpwn> hey anyone have experience presenting about code?
00:50 < Barrett> presenting about code?
00:50 < SirCmpwn> yep
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00:51 < SirCmpwn> im quite good at public speaking, however, this is my first time presenting on code
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00:56 < SirCmpwn> no one here has experience talking about code?!?
00:58 < Barrett> joels does
00:58 < SirCmpwn> whos joel?
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01:02 < Barrett> joel is joel... he works at facebook... he gave a presentation at least once...
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01:02 < Barrett> although if I remember correctly, it was way too short
01:03 < SirCmpwn> damn.  ill look somewhere else
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01:04 < Barrett> I mean, I talk about stuff I've written... but not to other programmers... usually to my boss and people requesting the software
01:05 < SirCmpwn> oh.  im presenting at a code camp type of thing in a couple weeks
01:07 < Barrett> what is it that you're presenting?
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01:14 < SirCmpwn> tell you l8r cya
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03:17 < JoeYoung> well, i managed to influence ticonnect to work, for now -_-
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03:23  * Randomist has read though six hundred RSS feeds items.  He must be really bored.
03:24 < Randomist> Now, if only I could study like that.  :P
03:28 < JoeYoung> wow
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03:48 <@nikky> I just spent the whole day studying
03:48 <@nikky> lame
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03:56 < Dan_E> Yup, that was a lot of snow.
03:56 < JoeYoung> hi
03:57 < Dan_E> Hi.
04:09 <+Netham45> Anyone know of a function in VB that'd let me set the border style on other windows? I'm trying to run games windowed, but at my full resolution with the border removed to make them friendlier to alt+tab.
04:09 < i_c-Y> VB? you're sick.
04:09 < JoeYoung> Virtual Boy?
04:09 < JoeYoung> er
04:10 < JoeYoung> Visual Boy?
04:10 <+Netham45> You got one of the words right
04:10 < JoeYoung> Visual Basic
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04:10 <+Netham45> yea
04:10 < JoeYoung> I figured you were talk of VBA or something originally
04:11 <+Netham45> i_c-Y, fine, if I use a different language, do you have any idea where to start?
04:12 < i_c-Y> Windows? you're sick.
04:13 <+Netham45> Nice way to say you have no idea where to start.
04:14 < JoeYoung> Just ignore the troll. Anyway, what do you think of this?
04:14 < JoeYoung> http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c119/metagross111/my%20creations/Untitled-3.png
04:14 < JoeYoung> I've been practicing at my sprite work.
04:16 < JoeYoung> gotta go X[
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05:37 <+Netham45> woo
05:37 <+Netham45> that was pretty easy
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07:02 < Barrett> programming challenge for everyone... http://lbarrettanderson.com/  (use chrome or a new firefox)... your eye is the origin, and you are looking down the z axis... knowing that the black box at the end of the tunnel is the same size as the opening on your side,
07:02 < Barrett> and you know the ratio and how far away that box is
07:02 < Barrett> with x y and z, where do you draw the ball?
07:02 < Barrett> if you'll notice, it's obviously wrong
07:02 < Barrett> because I suck right now
07:05 < Barrett> when z is 1000, everything is .37 times as big as it is when z is 0
07:11 < Barrett> ok, wow... I may have figured it out...
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07:27 < Genolo> i need a c++ ide for linux
07:27 < DrDnar> IDE? Linux?
07:33 < Barrett> dangit... I knew the math would be more complicated than this...
07:34 < Barrett> http://lbarrettanderson.com/ ... the ball looks like it changes speed
07:35 < DrDnar> Is the actual speed constant?
07:35 < Barrett> yes
07:36 < DrDnar> And it's supposed to be going foreword and backward to; that is, perpendicular to the plane of the screen?
07:36 < DrDnar> too*
07:36 < Barrett> yes
07:36 < DrDnar> Well there's yer problem.
07:37 < Barrett> ?
07:37 < KermM> exit(1);
07:38 < DrDnar> As it goes farther away, the movement in the xy plane needs to be scaled in the same way the ball's size does.
07:38 < DrDnar> Or so I should think.
07:38 < Barrett> it should be...
07:38 < DrDnar> Hmm, I'm not sure what the laws are on object receding into the background.
07:46 < Barrett> yeah... this is way off
07:46 < Barrett> I altered it a bit.. made it deeper... but man...
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07:48 < Barrett> I think it actually gets faster... not just appears to get faster since it's smaller, but I think the image actually moves faster along the screen
07:49 < DrDnar> I don't know.
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08:07 < Barrett> I probably have to use trig... I hate trig...
08:07 <@nikky> no you odn't
08:19 < Barrett> YES I DO YES I DO YES I DO
08:21 < mokomull> Barrett: That's what Wolfram Alpha's for :)
08:21 < Barrett> what's the perspective called when you're looking down a tube like this?
08:21 < Barrett> maybe there's a webpage about the math... or maybe I should do it when I'm more awake...
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08:30 < Barrett> the perspective and drawing all seem right... but yeah, the scale is based on the wrong thing... what it should be based on I don't know
08:31 < Barrett> some kind of log or exponent or cosine or sin or tan.....
08:31 < Barrett> something like that
08:31 < Barrett> something that curves
08:34 < Barrett> gotta be square root... that will fix my problems.
08:35 < Barrett> haha.... that was the opposite of what I needed...
08:36 <@chronomex> Barrett: neat, is this 3d pong?
08:37 < Barrett> yep, will be
08:37 <@chronomex> in html5?
08:37 < Barrett> yep
08:37 <@chronomex> because I totally look forward to playing this!
08:37 < Barrett> there is a shockwave version that I really like
08:37 <@chronomex> aye
08:37 < Barrett> http://www.liquid.se/pong/  (mine won't ever be this awesome)
08:37 <@chronomex> pfeh, yours is more awesome by virtue of not being in flash
08:38 < Barrett> well, it's worse than flash
08:38 < Barrett> it's shockwave :)
08:38 < Barrett> but yeah, I agree
08:38 < Barrett> html5/canvas is much better
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08:43 < Barrett> interesting... squaring the percentage of where the ball is makes it very consistent on the front 5 panels... but on the 6th it goes very very slow
08:45 <@chronomex> will you make it change size?
08:46 < Barrett> make what change size?
08:46 < Barrett> the whole game?
08:51 <@chronomex> sorry, the ball
08:51 < Barrett> it does
08:51 <@chronomex> hrm, ok
08:51 <@chronomex> I don't see it in opera
08:51 <@chronomex> http://i.imgur.com/RcXNx.gif   hooo boy
08:51 <@chronomex> oh wow so it does
08:52 <@chronomex> and the movement is smoother too!
08:52 < Barrett> ball changes size in opera for me... but the transparency... is... weird...
08:52 <@chronomex> hrm yeah
08:52 <@chronomex> oh well
08:53 < Barrett> this would be a cool calculator game
08:53 < Barrett> someone should make it
08:58 <+jr19> weird, i just hung out with ports
09:04 <+jr19> and we almost got into a fight with some guy outside of a strip club
09:04 <+jr19> very strange
09:22 < Randomist> Genolo:  Emacs?  :P
09:22 < Genolo> huh
09:23 < Genolo> oh lol
09:23 < Genolo> you were talking about the c++ ide
09:23  * Randomist also agrees with chronomex, since Director is a Windows-only thing.
09:24 < Randomist> s:Director:Shockwave:
09:31 <+glk> Space shuttle no launch    weather
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10:14 < asmand> morning
10:16 < Randomist> 'Nigh-- [looks at clock] --ning.
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10:17  * Randomist should probably sleep, now.
10:18 < Randomist> Making a habit of sleeping at >=0400 can't be good.
10:19 < Randomist> So much for becoming a regular 2300 sleeper.  :P
10:38 < Genolo> lol
10:38 < Genolo> yeah it's 4:37 here
10:38 < asmand> morning
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11:08 < tev> Both of you are in the same time zone as me.
11:16 < E-J> tev: and you aren'
11:16 < E-J> t worried?
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11:46 < E-J> holland and finland to same qualifying group in euro2012 qualifyings
11:46 <+kirsk> bah voetbal
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14:45 <+kirsk> hey you
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14:45 <+kirsk> hey you
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15:50 <+kirsk> http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/819431/537c2cb3/crooked_judges_of_amstedam.html
15:50 <+kirsk> :(
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18:32 < SirCmpwn> hey is Brandon around? or anyone with signifigant experience in VB.Net?
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18:42 < SirCmpwn> nobody for VB.Net?
18:44 < E-J> news page says that gas power plant has exploded at connecticut, of course someone has written comment above it that modern nuclear power plant couldn't explode
18:44 < SirCmpwn> link?
18:44 < E-J> finnish site where i read that
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18:45 < E-J> but orginal news from cnn http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/02/07/connecticut.explosion/index.html?hpt=T1
18:45 < SirCmpwn> ...? why does that prevent you from giving a link?
18:46 < SirCmpwn> oh ok
18:46 < E-J> SirCmpwn: http://www.hs.fi/ulkomaat/artikkeli/Useiden+pelätään+kuolleen+kaasuvoimalan+räjähdyksessä+Connecticutisssa/1135252698743?ref=rss here it is if you really want :)
18:48 < SirCmpwn> heres the english version http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://www.hs.fi/ulkomaat/artikkeli/Useiden%2Bpel%25C3%25A4t%25C3%25A4%25C3%25A4n%2Bkuolleen%2Bkaasuvoimalan%2Br%25C3%25A4j%25C3%25A4hdyksess%25C3%25A4%2BConnecticutisssa/1135252698743%3Fref%3Drss&rurl=translate.google.com&usg=ALkJrhjkJhKXV1LG7Bb0b9HJhXOFKvpRXQ
18:48 < i_c-Y> www.tinyurl.com
18:48 < i_c-Y> use it.
18:49 < SirCmpwn> its just two lines, come _on_
18:49 < E-J> SirCmpwn: and fails at easy word "kaasuvoimalassa" :) (= in gas power plant)
18:49 < Dan_E> Hmm.... I used to live near there.
18:51 < SirCmpwn> E-J: it gets the job done, its understandable
18:53 < E-J> SirCmpwn: ok then, sometimes it seems for me that it doesn't, but maybe it's only when machine tries to translate to finnish
18:54 < SirCmpwn> hmmm, i dont know, i wouldnt be able to understand it ;)
18:54 < SirCmpwn> english is almost become a standard
18:54 < SirCmpwn> *has
18:54 < E-J> some of those machine translators translate can as canister
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18:57 < E-J> SirCmpwn: http://dy.fi/85e topic is little different than it should be
18:57 < SirCmpwn> they are *almost* synonyms
18:57 < SirCmpwn> not being able to read the original, what is the correct topic?
18:58 < i_c-Y> its more than 2 lines. i like having an 80 column terminal.
18:59 < SirCmpwn> i_c-Y: ahh.  why would you want to use irc via the terminal?
18:59 < E-J> SirCmpwn: "Chemical containers fell from the finnish ship in baltic sea"
19:00 < i_c-Y> because i can.
19:00 < E-J> i irc from terminal also
19:00 < i_c-Y> maybe im irc ing from a vt220.
19:00 < E-J> and not full screen
19:00 < SirCmpwn> E-J: oh, yeah, its a bit different, but the gist of it is the same
19:00 < SirCmpwn> and i irc from efnet.org
19:01 < i_c-Y> lol cgi:irc
19:01 <@nikky> lol i_c-Y 
19:01 < i_c-Y> lol nikky 
19:01 < SirCmpwn> lol world ;)
19:02 < SirCmpwn> srry, stupid.  *facepalm* inside jokes do not belong on irc
19:04 < i_c-Y> you don't belong on IRC either
19:04 < SirCmpwn> wow.  tkx
19:04 < E-J> chinese ruby on rails coders program luby on lails aka LOLs
19:04 < E-J> ...
19:05 < E-J> and benryves programs ruby on ryves
19:05  * SirCmpwn claps slowly
19:07 < SirCmpwn> air force hockey refs suck, in case you were wondering
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19:17 < E-J> http://www.boingboing.net/2010/02/06/pedobear-official-ma.html
19:18 < SirCmpwn> is this actually being considered as an official mascot?
19:19 < i_c-Y> i would.
19:19 < i_c-Y> the age of consent in canda is like 12
19:19 < i_c-Y> which in american years is like 8
19:20 <@Andy_J> are we sure the drawing of pedobear wasn't used for something else before it was pedobear?
19:20 < Barrett> i_c-Y, do you know of any references for 3D graphics math?  (looking down a tunnel/tube kind of stuff) http://lbarrettanderson.com/  the ball movement is off...
19:20  * Andy_J gtfos with his logic
19:20 < Barrett> or Andy_J, even
19:20 <@Andy_J> negatory
19:21 < E-J> Andy_J: wasn't it some 4chan thing?
19:21 < E-J> from some anime
19:23 < i_c-Y> i think nehe goes over some stuff
19:23 < E-J> of course wikipedia has article about pedobear in finnish and french, but not english
19:24 < E-J> http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedobear
19:24 < Barrett> I know how big the ball should be at one end, and I know how big it should be at the other end... what's the function along the way?  log? explonent? root?
19:24 < Barrett> exponent*
19:25 < i_c-Y> do something that looks nice. 
19:25 < Barrett> yeah... I've been messing with everything...
19:25 < Barrett> the current version is somewhat close, but you can tell that the ball's speed isn't consistent
19:26 < Barrett> (aside from it speeding up every time it bounces)
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19:28 < Barrett> maybe after drawing this all out on paper I'll figure it out... looks like it'll be some kind of trig
19:30 < i_c-Y> sounds like it would work, though you need to mak eit look good on the screen so tweaking it manually may be better.
19:31 < i_c-Y> note that you're looking for something with a sharp change in the beginning and is essentially flat at the far end
19:32 < Barrett> yeah... I'll try to find what the actual function would be... I'm sure there is one... 
19:32 < Barrett> I'd probably have to add in my own constants/bases
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19:52 < Barrett> is there a website where you put in coordinates and it finds an approximate function for it?
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20:02 < asmand> snow
20:03 < SirCmpwn> asmand: likewise over here
20:04 < Barrett_> sweet... seems to be the right way to do it... got 3 points that I knew were right based on proportions and put them in a linear solver
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20:09 < Barrett_> yeyeeeeeessssssss
20:09 < Barrett_> looks great now
20:10 < E-J> asmand: vieläkö sitä sataa, ei oo verhot auki eikä jaksa siirtää läppäriä pois polvilta
20:13 < TD-Linux> perspective in a nutshell:
20:13 < TD-Linux> divide by z
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20:20 < SirCmpwn> i dont know if any of you are paying attention, but a pretty awesome conversation is going on on #ti about a leaked OS v2.53 being released by TI on the 15th
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20:29 < asmand> E-J: jep, vieläkin
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20:44 < Genolo> woah shit
20:44 < Genolo> i got a 94 on my last civics quiz
20:44 < Genolo> i don't understand one thing in that entire class
20:44 < Genolo> i just fill in random crap
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21:00 <+kirsk> half and half workout routine: basically, one day you work your left bicep, tricep, shoulder, chest and back muscles and the next day you do the other. e.g. day 1 left, day 2 right, day 3. its very good because you can do it quickly and every day, meaning youll see a lot of results very quickly!
21:00 <+kirsk> :|
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21:37 < DSP_Lord> that is one of the most retarded things i've ever heard in regards to workout techniques, kirsk.
21:42 < i_c-Y> its a krisk idea, what do you expect?
21:44 <+kirsk> not my idea
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21:54 < Genolo> does the new tios have zoom math
21:55 < Genolo> wait wtf
21:55 < Genolo> did the new tios get leaked or something
21:56 <@chronomex> yeah, it did
21:56 < Genolo> how
21:56 <@chronomex> due out the 15th but BrandonW already has it in IDA PRO
21:56  * chronomex shrugs
21:56 <@chronomex> real good question, sir
21:56 < i_c-Y> BrandonW snuck into TI cleverly disguised as a black person
21:56 < i_c-Y> then he stole TIOS
21:56 <@chronomex> hahaha
21:57 < i_c-Y> strapped a timer to omnimaga's chest
21:57 <@chronomex> if he stole it then he wouldn't have to disassemble it :P
21:57 < Genolo> does anyone have a link
21:57 < i_c-Y> said his tearful goodbye
21:57 < Genolo> i must test it
21:57 < i_c-Y> and pressed the button.
21:57 <@chronomex> http://ti.bank.free.fr/index.php?mod=news&ac=commentaires&id=792
21:57 <@chronomex> is all I have
21:57 < SirCmpwn> I just posted it online, get it fast cause it wont be there long http://sircmpwn.pbworks.com
21:58 < Genolo> The only reason you are here right now is proabably this file: R84MP53.8Xu
21:58 < Genolo> that i assume
21:58 < SirCmpwn> yes sir
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22:00 < Genolo> maybe i shouldn't update considering i have a crapload of math homework
22:00 < Genolo> is it stable?
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22:01 < SirCmpwn> i dont know, i havent tried it. it is the correct file though, i promise.  player_ is downloading it to his calculator, we will get more info from him
22:02 < Genolo> wait ff i forgot there is no ticonnect on linux
22:02 < Genolo> i might have to boot into windows
22:02 < Genolo> the horror
22:02 < SirCmpwn> theres TiLP
22:03 < Genolo> can it do os's?
22:03 < Genolo> and backups?
22:04 <@chronomex> tilp can iirc
22:04 < SirCmpwn> yes
22:05 < E-J> chronomex: who has written that biography at ticalc?
22:05 <@chronomex> I wrote it mostly
22:05 < SirCmpwn> hey if you still havent downloaded that file get it within the next 25 mins
22:06 < Genolo> with ticonnect can you back up the os?
22:06 < Genolo> i haven't done anything with calculators in forever
22:06 < Genolo> :P
22:07 <@chronomex> Genolo: nope
22:07 < Genolo> i'll just throw it on and hope it's stable
22:07 <@chronomex> heh
22:07 < SirCmpwn> with ticonnect you can back up all your progs/vars/apps/ect
22:07 <@chronomex> it's probably at least halfway stable
22:15 < KermM> --> #ti
22:15 < Genolo> i thought this was considered slightly illegal
22:15 < Genolo> which i thought was frowned upon in #ti
22:15 < SirCmpwn> it is entirely illegal
22:16 < SirCmpwn> but whatever
22:16 < Genolo> hehe
22:17 < Genolo> they have a ti connect for 64 bit right?
22:17 < KermM> there's a 64-bit patch
22:17 < KermM> wait, which of this is illegal?
22:17 < Genolo> distrubuting a leaked OS, i think
22:18 <@Andy_J> how is that illegal?
22:18 < Genolo> also where does one obtain said patch
22:18 <@BrandonW> It's illegal to distribute TI's copyrighted OS.
22:18 < Genolo> Andy_J: no idea
22:18 < Genolo> we can't distribute any of them?
22:18 < Genolo> even the ones already out?
22:18 <@BrandonW> Correct.
22:18 < Genolo> i see
22:18 < Genolo> so where is that 64 bit patch
22:18 <@Andy_J> True, I guess.
22:18 < Genolo> on ti's site or
22:19 < Genolo> somewhere else
22:19 < KermM> BrandonW, meh :/
22:20 < KermM> Genolo: it's in the ti-connect download page on education.ti.com
22:34 < Genolo> if i were to ever ask a girl out
22:35 < Genolo> i would say
22:35 < Genolo> "if you get mauled by bears, i hope they stay away from your face, 'cause i think your cute"
22:35 < Genolo> based on the response i would know if she were the one.
22:35 < KermM> :P
22:40 < SirCmpwn> i updated http://sircmpwn.pbworks.com/ and added the rom, along with screens
22:43 <+glk> It is your story. Validate it
22:43 <+glk> wrong room
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22:55 <+jr19> heh
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23:08 < E-J> hmm, i can't believe that i opened that channel that shows that handegg game
23:13 < leofox> oh yeah there's handegg superfinals
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23:15 < E-J> leofox: did you see that finland and holland are in same group for qualifying to euro2012
23:27 < leofox> no
23:27 < leofox> i dont follow football
23:29 <+Tribal> http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5344559
23:29 < Randomist> If only I could seed that.
23:30 < Genolo> how are so many people leeching when all you did was give it to me first
23:31 < Randomist> Well, it is on The Pirate Bay.
23:31 < Genolo> according to my client there are 16 peers
23:32 < Genolo> oh
23:32 < Genolo> wrong torrnet
23:32 < Genolo> oops
23:32 < Randomist> I only see one other peer.
23:33 < Randomist> There are probably more, but I have forced encryption turned on.
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23:37 <+Tribal> Genolo, I see 9 peers
23:38 < Genolo> i see 1
23:38 < Buckeye> i will seed
23:38 < Genolo> i'm seeding
23:38 <+Tribal> Same
23:38 < Genolo> there are a couple things i seed indefinately
23:39 < Tahben> anything of note?
23:39 < Tahben> or just linux isos
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23:41 < Genolo> school days visual novel
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