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00:33 < bsparks> Yay, brought in all my clothes that I saved that may have been "flea ridden" so +3 Mountain Dew shirts. +2 Sparks Services shirts. +2 General Humor shirts. +1 Tan Hoodie. +1 Pink Floyd Hoodie. 
00:39 < Randomist> Somehow, my laptop's uptime is seven days.
00:39 < bsparks> congrats?
00:39 < bsparks> ¯\(°_o)/¯
00:39 < Randomist> :P
00:41 <@Andy_J> my win7rc box is just shy of 50 days
00:41 < bsparks> Andy_J, it's verging on epic perportions!
00:41 <@Andy_J> Quite.
00:41 <@Andy_J> My G4 is a couple days behind it
00:41 <@Andy_J> and my macbook was a few behind that but I rebooted it last night for the security patch
00:42  * Randomist needs to get Windows Seven back on here.
00:42 < Randomist> I miss my games.  :(
00:42 < bsparks> My G4 is only at 11d because it had a kernel panic :/
00:42 <@Andy_J> of course the macbook is sleeping most of the time so it doesn't count
00:42 < bsparks> my iPod has a 69d uptime :)
00:47 < i_c-Y> my desktop only has 88 days uptime.
00:48 <@Andy_J>  19:48:16 up 75 days, 10:07, 10 users,  load average: 0.08, 0.07, 0.01
00:48 <@Andy_J> :<
00:48 < i_c-Y> loser.
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01:04 < Jonimus> my server is at 23 days my desktop is often switching between linux and windows or it would be longer
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01:17 < i_c-Y> Jonimus: nobody cares.
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01:26 < millinao> goddamnit i keep opening up irc, forgetting it's already open
01:44 <+ports-> anyone seen the movie Watchmen?
01:44 <+ports-> the scene where Rorschach goes after the kidnapper makes me want to throw up
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01:52 < Randomist> Who's the network share?
01:52 < Randomist> [CIFS]
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02:20 < sir_lewk> ports-: yes
02:21 < sir_lewk> the scene in the book was better than the one in the movie
02:21 < sir_lewk> in the book he handcuffs the guy to the building, tosses him a hacksaw, then lights the building on fire
02:22 <+ports-> ah
02:22 <+ports-> yeah.. in the movie.. its just gross
02:22 < sir_lewk> I suspect they changed it because they figured people would think it ripped off Saw
02:22 <+ports-> im not upset that he hurt the guy.. he deserved it.. but the little girl bones and stuff
02:23 < sir_lewk> oh yeah, that was a bit disturbing
02:29 <+ports-> sir_lewk, i hate the world. let it be known
02:31 <+ports-> im being forced to go to a frat house party, at my girlfriends - exboyfriends frat house... and i really dont like that kid
02:35 < Randomist> Test:  Gnutella.
02:35 < bsparks> I hear the police will be glad to help if you are being forced against your will
02:35 < Randomist> Thest passed.
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02:36 < Randomist> Come on, Tari, you can hang on!
02:36 <+ports-> bsparks, i dont think the police will help unless if there is a fight :<
02:37 < Randomist> ports-:  Get really drunk and/or high.
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02:37 <+ports-> Randomist, i dont get high
02:37 < Randomist> Either you won't remember or you won't care or both.
02:37 <+ports-> lol
02:38 <+ports-> Randomist, he was a dbag to her.. and a few weeks ago she was arguing with him.. and he was a little drunk and pushed her..
02:38 < bsparks> ports-, well you are being forced against your will. Presumably at gun/knifepoint, or perhaps with otherwise terroristic activities. 
02:39 <+ports-> bsparks, just emotionally..
02:39 < bsparks> Oh, that doesn't count.
02:39 < bsparks> Be a man. 
02:39 <+ports-> what would a man do?
02:39 < bsparks> If you don't want to go. Don't.
02:39 < Randomist> Hello, 911?  I'm being forced by my will against my will to attend a party.  What should I do?
02:39 <+ports-> lol
02:39 <+ports-> Randomist, thats not funny.. my phone keeps dialing 911
02:40 < bsparks> Randomist, don't write a living will then :)
02:40 <+ports-> Randomist, stupid blackberry has the "emergency call?" thing on the keypad lock screen... keeps butt dialing the cops
02:41 < Randomist> "This the [bleep] Police Department.  How may I help you?"  "[Fabric shuffling.]"  "Hello?"  "[Flatulence.]"  "[Receiver clicks.]"
02:42 <+ports-> i think comcast is doing some weird bandwidth throttling on Hulu
02:42 <+ports-> ive had a lot of trouble watching videos on it the last 2-3 weeks
02:43 < Randomist> "Comcast" and "throttling" the same sentence, so it doesn't sound surprising.
02:43 < sir_lewk> bsparks: why would the police be glad he is being kidnapped
02:43 < sir_lewk> ;P
02:44 < sir_lewk> ports-: the same  (with my stolen comcast wifi)
02:44 <+ports-> its buffering every 2-3 seconds
02:44 <+ports-> sir_lewk, lol
02:44 < sir_lewk> faster on verizon dsl then comcast cable..
02:44 <+ports-> yeah .. i have 12mbps or 15 mbps service
02:45 < sir_lewk> I have the higher end verizon dsl, I don't know the actual speed though
02:45 <+ports-> sir_lewk, i could actually torrent the episode and watch it faster than this shit
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02:45 < efneTI92> [DSP_Lord] I'm not a ninja, no idea what you're talking about.
02:46  * Randomist has one of those cheap wireless dong on his server, and wonders how to go about setting up so that it will use that to download things from the Internet, but upload to wired.
02:47 <+ports-> sir_lewk, i wonder if its a problem with hulu
02:47 < sir_lewk> dunno
02:47 <+ports-> i switched to the 480p feed.. and its working better
02:47 < sir_lewk> I'm currently torrenting season 3 of dexter
02:48 < sir_lewk> the only thing I use hulu for is Its always Sunny
02:48 <+ports-> im watching Greek
02:48 < sir_lewk> isn't that a chick show?
02:49 <+ports-> im dating sorority girls.... it helps
02:49 < sir_lewk> lulz
02:50 < sir_lewk> the problem with hulu is I just don't like TV most of the time
02:50 <+ports-> lol they just played an awesome drinking game... 20 guys were watching this one dude sleeping.. you had to drink every time he snored
02:50 < sir_lewk> D:
02:51 < sir_lewk> that seems like a terrible drinking game
02:51 <+ports-> it was funny to watch
02:52 < sir_lewk> can't say I am a fan of drinking games in general
02:52 < sir_lewk> hmm, I think hulu is just slow as tits right now
02:53 <+ports-> sir_lewk, try the 480p feed.. it works super fast
02:54 < sir_lewk> oh wait, I'm also torrenting dexter right now
02:54 < sir_lewk> nvm, that's why
02:54 <+ports-> nice
02:54 <+ports-> im trying to decide what i want to drink at the party tonight
02:54 <+ports-> i dont have any cheap booze
02:55 <+ports-> ketel one, scotch, jameson,  and other expensive stuff
02:57 < sir_lewk> wait, they don't provide booze?
02:57 <+ports-> $5 for a cup, kegs of keystone.
02:57 <+ports-> and im not drinking enemy goods.
02:57 < sir_lewk> fucking lame
02:58 < sir_lewk> drexel has better parties than that
02:58 <+ports-> yeah.. im 24.. i dont like going to frat parties.
02:58 < sir_lewk> though when there are kegs, they are usually PBR...
02:58 <+ports-> i actually like pbr on draft
02:58 < sir_lewk> actually, I avoid frat parties almost entirely so I don't know what they usually have
02:59 < sir_lewk> the film majors have far better parties
02:59 <+ports-> my campus didnt have frat houses.. they had to rent at the local legion and knights of columbus.
02:59 <+ports-> so you could have anything a "towny" bar would have
02:59 < sir_lewk> my campus has like 7 or 8 really shitty frat houses
02:59 < sir_lewk> they are all jokes
03:00 <+ports-> i thought about joining alpha phi alpha.. a black frat
03:00 < sir_lewk> are you black?
03:01 <+ports-> a while back.. i had left my jacket on a chair at work (in college).. and someone thought it belonged to one of the Alphas.. so they took it to the house.. one of the brothers there found my jacket, saw it was mine from some stuff in the pockets.. and returned it to me.. with all of my stuff in it.
03:01 <+ports-> Indian
03:01 < sir_lewk> ah, that's what I thought
03:01 <+ports-> the skin color things dont apply to me
03:02 <+ports-> my jacket was missing for about 2-3 months.. and so i have a lot of respect for no one at their frat house (Alphas was our only frat house) stealing it.. and even more respect for them to find me, and returning it to me
03:02 < sir_lewk> I've told my jewish friends that I was going to join their frat a few times, generally to responses of "uhm.... why?"
03:03 <+ports-> a few of my friends were Alphas in college too..  they do recruit people with good character
03:03 < sir_lewk> they are by far the best frat on campus though
03:03 <+ports-> you guys have a jewish frat? they have one at NIU
03:04 < sir_lewk> yeah
03:05 < sir_lewk> alpha epsilon pi or something
03:05 <+ports-> i dont know what the NIU one is called.
03:05 < sir_lewk> "a-e-pi", I guess the e is epsilon
03:05 <+ports-> yep.. its A E Pi
03:05 < sir_lewk> why the shit can't I browse the web, but my torrents and ssh session are going strong?
03:06 < sir_lewk> lovely, dns issues
03:06 < sir_lewk> wtf verizon
03:07 < Randomist> OpenDNS?
03:07 <+ports-> wow
03:07 <+ports-> scotch is not meant to be slugged
03:08 <+ports-> sir_lewk, ive been sitting around drinking scotch trying to figure out if im going to this party
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03:09 < sir_lewk> my couch smells like whiskey >:(
03:10 < sir_lewk> mm
03:11 < sir_lewk> I feel like frying an egg
03:11 < sir_lewk> I'm not really hungry though
03:18 < Randomist> Yay.  I got a nice stack of blank DVDs for contributing five dollars to someone so they can go get shitfaced.
03:18 < Randomist> My file cabinet is almost full of these things, now.
03:21 < sir_lewk> someone gave you blank dvds in return for booze money?
03:22 < sir_lewk> what in the world do you use those for?  who actually uses dvds anymore?
03:23 < sir_lewk> goddamn, why was the dexter season2 torrent so much faster then the season 3 torrent
03:24 < sir_lewk> peniscocks
03:24 <@Andy_J> richards
03:26 < sir_lewk> lol
03:30 < sir_lewk> wait a second, this smell isn't whiskey
03:30 < sir_lewk> it is hotwings
03:32 < sir_lewk> how did I even confuse those smells
03:32 <@Andy_J> too much of the former tonight?
03:34 < sir_lewk> no, none at all actually
03:34 <@Andy_J> not enough :p
03:38 < sir_lewk> true
03:58 < millinao> hot damn copying a stack of CDs is an arduous task
04:00 < Randomist> sir_lewk:  DVDs are good for videos.  Duh.  :P
04:00 < Randomist> I do not watch movies and TV shows and stuff like that very often, so there's no point in letting them sit on my hard drive and server and backup drive and waste space until I actually want to watch one.  :P
04:01 < i_c-Y> millinao: build a robot
04:01 < i_c-Y> problem solved.
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04:02 < Randomist> Array of CD-changer burners.
04:03 < millinao> ya
04:04 < i_c-Y> are you going from cd to cd?
04:05 < Randomist> Who would be crazy enough to go from CD to multiple CDs (or DVDs) without making an ISO image?
04:13 < i_c-Y> someone who has a cd duplicator machine?
04:13 < i_c-Y> or a dvd duplicator machine?
04:13 < i_c-Y> ie. http://www.supermediastore.com/product/u/sony-dvd-standalone-tower-dvd-duplicators-5-target-black-economic?max=15&offset=0
04:14 < millinao> no, i'm ripping
04:14 < i_c-Y> pirate.
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04:24 < bsparks> I am OFFICIALLY going to PAX East :D
04:27 < i_c-Y> nobody cares.
04:27 < i_c-Y> and PAX East's attendance just dropped 45%
04:28 < bsparks> Good
04:28 < bsparks> More elbow room.
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04:29 < KermM> i_c-Y, your mom's bed's attendance just dropped 45%
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04:36 < i_c-Y> okay? 
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04:39 < Genolo> does anyone need how to get audio off a video
04:39 < Genolo> or perhaps part of a video
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04:39 < i_c-Y> Genolo: mencoder can.
04:40 < i_c-Y> you can do it through windows movie maker
04:40 < i_c-Y> virtualdub probabbly can too
04:40 < Genolo> can you choose which part of the video?
04:41 < i_c-Y> you could split the video pretty quickly.
04:41 < i_c-Y> but yeah you could do that
04:42 < i_c-Y> what kind of video is the source?
04:42 < Genolo> mkv
04:43 < i_c-Y> try mkvextract ?
04:43 < i_c-Y> its in mkvtoolnix i think
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04:44 < i_c-Y> that doesnt let you pick out the time though
04:45 < Genolo> with that i could always
04:45 < Genolo> use audacity or something
04:45 < i_c-Y> avidemux might work too
04:48 < Randomist> Avidemux?
04:48 < Randomist> Oh.
04:48 < Randomist> Nevermind, i_c-Y  beat me to it.
04:48 < i_c-Y> i think the 1 line mencoder thing should be the easiest though
04:49  * Randomist resumes drawing.
04:49 < i_c-Y> probably some hentai bitch being raped , knowing Genolo .
04:49 < i_c-Y> he must think that japanese people really like to say hello.
04:49 < Randomist> Ha-ha, tentacles.
05:01 <@chronomex> Genolo: take a look at mplayer -dumpaudio 
05:01 < Genolo> i got the audio but now audacity says it can't open it
05:01 < Genolo> i need to fix shit
05:01 <@chronomex> usually requires two passes with mplayer in my experience
05:03 < Genolo> what should i use to cut up the audio
05:04 <@chronomex> what sort of cut up?
05:04 < Genolo> take a part of it out
05:04 < Genolo> convert to mp3
05:05 < i_c-Y> why dont you just use mkvextract
05:05 < i_c-Y> what kind of audio is in the mkv to begin with?
05:05 < Genolo> aac
05:05 < Genolo> i have the audio
05:05 < Genolo> i just need to take a part of it now
05:06 < i_c-Y> okay, so  grab the aac from mkvextract, run it through lame
05:06 < i_c-Y> and then clip it
05:06 < Genolo> clip it with what
05:07 <@chronomex> mp3split or something
05:07 < i_c-Y> or audacity.
05:07 < Genolo> lame gives me unsupported audio format
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05:10 < i_c-Y> you can probably run it through ffmpeg
05:10 < i_c-Y> or mplayer -> lame
05:10 < i_c-Y> id be surprised if someone didnt have a shell script you could grab off the google that did this for you.
05:12 < Genolo> seems like it'd be easier just to get a youtube video of it and take the audio off that
05:12 < Genolo> settle for shit quality
05:13 < i_c-Y> its a trivial task. 
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05:13 < i_c-Y> you could even run the aac file through mencoder
05:13 < i_c-Y> and use the start time and end time options
05:14 < Genolo> the manpage for mencoder is huge
05:16 < j-b-r_> Are you trying to do A/V things on linux again?
05:16 < j-b-r_> How silly
05:16 < i_c-Y> mencoder my.aac -o my.mp3 -oac mp3lame will give you the mp3. 
05:16 < i_c-Y> -ss gives you the start time
05:16 < i_c-Y> -endpos gives you the end time
05:16 < i_c-Y> add those in, you're done.
05:17 < i_c-Y> or just encode the whole thing and use audacity to clip it down quickly
05:21 < Genolo> Video stream is mandatory!
05:21 < Genolo> Exiting...
05:21 < Genolo> i give up i'm too much of a failure
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05:24 < i_c-Y> http://gimpel.gi.funpic.de/wiki/index.php?title=Howto:convert_aac/mp4_to_wav/mp3/ogg_on_Linux , Genolo 
05:24 < i_c-Y> someone did write a script
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05:26 < i_c-Y> just use it, Genolo 
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05:31 < Genolo> it's not working
05:32 < Genolo> it said no mp4 in folder
05:32 < Genolo> so i edited it to check for aac
05:32 < Genolo> and it still doesn't find anything
05:33 < Genolo> oh wait there is another on that page
05:35 < Genolo> woo it worked
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05:42 < Genolo> i just need to find how to export in a better bitrate
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05:45 < Genolo> she's done
05:45 < Genolo> it's
05:45 < Genolo> it's beautiful
05:49 < Randomist> i_c-Y was right.  Porn.  :P
05:49 < Genolo> no
05:49 < Genolo> it's this
05:49 < Genolo> http://genolo.nvm2u.com/music/Durarara!!%20OP.mp3
05:50 < Genolo> and it's weeaboo so don't complain
05:50  * Randomist is too busy relaxing to Arcana and drawing to click that, now.  :P
05:51 < Randomist> [Voice in mind:]  It's a link on IRC!  You must click it!
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05:52 < i_c-Y> lamest music ever.
05:56 < Genolo> it's a good animé though
05:56 < Genolo> it's about a headless irish fairy who rides a motorcycle
05:57  * Randomist should have tried drawing on pot.
06:01 < tr1p1ea> chiptunes are the best to code to
06:02 < Genolo> i kinda miss my computer overheating on my lap
06:02 < Genolo> been a lot colder these days
06:05 <@nikky> pish tosh
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06:10 < KermM> tr1p1ea++
06:11 < Randomist> Some odd number of more hours, and I will have my hundred and twenty-one thousand plus collection of module-format music back.
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06:31 < JoeYoung> Genelo: wat?
06:31 < JoeYoung> <Genolo> it's about a headless irish fairy who rides a motorcycle
06:31 < JoeYoung> I'd be very surprised indeed if a plot like that took off.
06:36 <@chronomex> faeries have wings, of course they can take off
06:37 < JoeYoung> That was fucked retarded and you knew that, chronomex.
06:38 <@BrandonW> There are many methods of becoming retarded. Fucked retarded is the worst.
06:38 < JoeYoung> Hahaha.
06:39 <@BrandonW> I would be more into cracking Zoom Math 300 and Zoom Chemistry if I actually cared about how they worked.
06:39 <@BrandonW> Which is necessary to crack them.
06:39 <@BrandonW> The guy disables features or causes them to crash if you don't crack it properly.
06:39 <@BrandonW> So I'd have to learn how to use the advanced features to test it.
06:40 <@BrandonW> Unless someone wants to help me.
06:40 < JoeYoung> Who cares? Honestly?
06:41 <@BrandonW> The people who want to buy them but can't because they cost $50.
06:41 < JoeYoung> So?
06:42 < JoeYoung> We slander the program's reputation by saying how terrible it is and create a free alternative.
06:42 < JoeYoung> That's the best way to do things.
06:42 <@BrandonW> No one cares that much.
06:42 <@BrandonW> But they are willing to screw him over.
06:42 <@BrandonW> Because he screws us over.
06:42 < JoeYoung> If I had the skills I'd do exactly that JUST to screw him over.
06:43 <@BrandonW> That's the real motivation behind it.
06:43 <@BrandonW> It's a little bit immoral to charge half the cost of the calculator for a single application.
06:43 <@BrandonW> So I'll be a little immoral and crack it.
06:43 < JoeYoung> hold on.
06:44 < JoeYoung> how does the activation key thing work?
06:44 <@BrandonW> It's very complicated, but he generates a "zoom key" based on your calc ID.
06:44 < JoeYoung> so...
06:44 <@BrandonW> And then sends you a key that matches.
06:44 < tr1p1ea> are zoom licenses primarily aimed towards classroms?
06:44 < tr1p1ea> rooms*
06:44 < JoeYoung> maybe we could make a keygen?
06:45 < tr1p1ea> (as opposed to the individual)
06:45 <@BrandonW> I really fail to see how, because that would mean every single calculator (over 30) would need licenses.
06:45 <@BrandonW> JoeYoung, no one (not even me) understands the algorithm used to generate the zoom key thing.
06:45 <@BrandonW> It's insanely complicated.
06:45 < tr1p1ea> getting schools to buy licenses instead of the kids themselves
06:45 < JoeYoung> hahaha.
06:45 <@BrandonW> The quicker thing to do is brute force the key for one calc ID and then patch the application to think it's running on a calculator with that ID.
06:46 < JoeYoung> Well, I'm sure if anyone can crack it, you can, BrandonW :)
06:46 <@BrandonW> A flaw in this whole thing is that he MUST use _getCalcSerial to get the calc ID, which is easy to patch.
06:47 <@BrandonW> But anyway, it's designed really well. You can try to brute force a key, but it won't necessarily be correct.
06:47 <@BrandonW> He uses that key to make decisions later in the code.
06:47 <@BrandonW> So if you generate a false positive, the code can actually crash with certain features.
06:47 < JoeYoung> Wow.
06:47 <@BrandonW> Thus, you need to know what you're unlocking.
06:47 <@BrandonW> I know, it's freaking genius.
06:47 <@BrandonW> You can't fault the guy for trying to come up with something secure.
06:48 < JoeYoung> I... won't pretend to comprehend the meaning of what you are saying, but it sounds impressive.
06:48 <@BrandonW> It is impressive, you have to give him that.
06:49 < JoeYoung> So, when do we let this guy know that BrandonW's on the job? :P
06:49 < tr1p1ea> the app itself is nice
06:50 < tr1p1ea> but i do agree the price to be rather hefty
06:50 < JoeYoung> Same.
06:50 <@BrandonW> So I cracked Zoom Algebra / Zoom Math 100 by patching the application by hand in the flash debugger to go in an infinite loop until it generated a potential key, and then try a patched subroutine (for one of the advanced features) to see if it would run successfully and thus we really found a good key.
06:50 <@BrandonW> And then once I got that, I patched the application to match that calc ID.
06:50 <@BrandonW> It took forever to figure that out.
06:50 <@BrandonW> I'm not too eager to do it again.
06:50 < JoeYoung> Hell, he might turn more profit by pricing it at 5 dollars.
06:51 < tr1p1ea> can you make flashdebugger run at greater than 100% emulation speed?
06:51 < tr1p1ea> (like PTI)
06:51 <@BrandonW> No.
06:51 < tr1p1ea> ugh
06:51 <@BrandonW> I "cracked" Zoom Math 200 by taking advantage of some "deal" he coded into it to unlock if you had already "bought" Zoom Math 100.
06:51 < JoeYoung> son of a bitch!
06:51 <@BrandonW> So I didn't really have to do anything for Zoom Math 200.
06:51 < JoeYoung> it's more expensive than I had thought!
06:52 <@BrandonW> I started disassembling Zoom Math 300 but I never got anywhere with it.
06:52 <@BrandonW> I did find the call to _getCalcSerial, so if someone wants to buy it and send me the serial/key combination...
06:53 < JoeYoung> at 70 dollars?!
06:53 < JoeYoung> I might contribute toward that... but there is no way I can afford to buy that thing.
06:54 < millinao> jesus, it can't be worth 70 dollars whatever it is
06:54 <@BrandonW> And the reason I'm discussing this here and not #ti is because of the legality of it.
06:54 < JoeYoung> I'm gonna being pulling out student loans as it is in the near future, and that's WITH the full ride scholarship!
06:55 <@BrandonW> He does offer all sorts of discounts and he might even have a "site license" concept, but it would have to be heavily enforced.
06:55 <@BrandonW> If it ever got out, he'd be screwed.
06:55 <@BrandonW> Because it obviously can't be based on the calc ID.
06:56 < millinao> brandonw: what makes here better for discussing things of questionable legality
06:57 <@BrandonW> I don't want to spoil the mood in #ti.
06:57 < JoeYoung> haha
06:57 < JoeYoung> I'm looking at the About Us page
06:57 <@BrandonW> Not so much legality but morality.
06:57 < JoeYoung> it's got a little third-world boy pointing at Africa.
06:58 <@BrandonW> If you do enough reading, you can gather it's a company of like three people.
06:58 <@BrandonW> The coder, his brother, and some woman.
06:58 <@BrandonW> Or cousin or something.
06:58 < JoeYoung> yeah, i did gather that.
06:59 < JoeYoung> I'm still wondering how they justify $70 dollars.
06:59 <@BrandonW> I've been following it since the page was awful HTML frame garbage.
06:59 < JoeYoung> It makes me wonder how well it actually sells.
06:59 < tr1p1ea> hah i remember their old page
06:59 <@BrandonW> Another approach would be to hack their site and get access to that page that generates the key.
07:00 <@BrandonW> But I'm not too psyched about that one.
07:00 < Genolo> where was this site linked
07:00 <@BrandonW> It was always http://www.zoommath.com/
07:00 <@BrandonW> It's never linked anywhere.
07:00 <@BrandonW> And not on ticalc.org.
07:00 < i_c-Y> you're ruining a man's livelihood!
07:01 <@BrandonW> They have a deal with TI...App4Math is on new calculators.
07:01 < JoeYoung> BrandonW.... I know a guy that knows a guy....
07:01 <@BrandonW> Maybe if he'd been a little more reasonable on the price, I wouldn't have to.
07:01 < Genolo> i know a guy who can hack sites
07:01 < Genolo> he's broken a lot of sites
07:01 <@BrandonW> Honestly, tell me you'd buy $100 for the 83+ and and then $70 more for an application.
07:01 < i_c-Y> BrandonW: are you going to start bombing groccery stores when they start selling milk for 3.50 instead of 3.49?
07:02 <@BrandonW> I just might.
07:02 <@BrandonW> you'd spend*
07:02 < i_c-Y> why would anyone buy a 83+ when they could get a HP 50G?
07:02 <@BrandonW> Or an 89, which has a CAS.
07:02 <@BrandonW> And $20 less.
07:02 <@BrandonW> For more stable functionality.
07:02 < Genolo> why do you want this app
07:02 < i_c-Y> to get an unfair advantage on the ACT?
07:02 < JoeYoung> I don't know a guy who can hack sites, but the site owner, a guy I know, does. He's some dick schoolmate of his that fucks with our blog every few weeks or so.
07:03 <@BrandonW> I don't want the application.
07:03 < Genolo> then what are you trying to do?
07:03 < Genolo> crack it and blackmail the dude with it?
07:03 <@BrandonW> I don't want to blackmail the guy.
07:03 <@BrandonW> I don't care if he ever knows about it.
07:03 <@BrandonW> And I don't advertise the crack.
07:03 <@BrandonW> I just want it to exist.
07:03 < JoeYoung> Does it matter? stfu Genolo and explain your headless motorcycle faeries.
07:04 < DSP_Lord> what are you going on about, BrandonW?
07:04 <@BrandonW> Cracking Zoom Math applications.
07:04 < Genolo> JoeYoung: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durarara!!
07:04 < DSP_Lord> i presume said applications cost money?
07:04 < Genolo> see first character in list of characters
07:04 <@BrandonW> They cost $70.
07:04 < DSP_Lord> O_O
07:04 < Randomist> That's rape!
07:04 < DSP_Lord> that's not rape.
07:05 < DSP_Lord> that's complete and utter molestation of the soul.
07:05 < JoeYoung> Publisher	Square Enix
07:05 <@BrandonW> It goes as low as $20, but if you want all the features, it's $70.
07:05 < DSP_Lord> shit man, what does it do that could possibly be worth $70.
07:05 < JoeYoung> Makes sense now. They're like the only non-ero company that can get by with weird stuff like that.
07:05 < Genolo> does the test for you
07:05 < Genolo> guarntees 100%
07:06 <@BrandonW> You would think it'd be a full-on CAS, but no.
07:06 < Genolo> i wouldn't pay money for that because it's against my morals to cheat academically
07:06 < DSP_Lord> psh
07:06 < Genolo> i'd rather fail with my own power than pass with someone elses
07:06 < DSP_Lord> why would i pay $70 for a program that does shit for me when i can program my own for free.
07:07 < Randomist> DSP_Lord++
07:07 <@BrandonW> This guy is using cursor hooks, so I know he reads our documentation.
07:07 < DSP_Lord> clearly that's practical application of knowledge.
07:07 <@BrandonW> TI wouldn't give him that.
07:07 <@BrandonW> I also know he's not a community member, because his coding style is nothing like ours.
07:07 <@BrandonW> There's a lot of OS stuff he doesn't use.
07:07 < Genolo> what does this app do
07:07 < DSP_Lord> ohi millinao >_>
07:07 < millinao> ohi
07:07 <@BrandonW> http://zoommath.com/Products/ZoomMath300.php
07:08 < Randomist> Pretty much what a TI-89 could do for free.
07:08 <@BrandonW> It can solve some Algebra 2 problems for you in steps.
07:08 < Genolo> whatever happened to doing that kind of stuff on paper
07:08 < DSP_Lord> that... looks stupid.
07:08 <@BrandonW> It does far less than what an 89 does.
07:08 < DSP_Lord> STUPID
07:08 <@BrandonW> He codes very defensively, and does really scary stack stuff.
07:09 < DSP_Lord> i could probably do all that shit in my sleep.
07:09 <@BrandonW> It had an early reputation for being unstable, but it's very well-developed.
07:10 <@BrandonW> http://zoommath.com/Products/CompatibleCalcs.php He advertises the Nspire's 84+SE emulator.
07:10 < Genolo> and it's going to come with calcs?
07:10 <@BrandonW> I still have no idea how the calc ID is generated on the Nspire's 84+SE emulator.
07:10 <@BrandonW> I should dig into that.
07:10 <@BrandonW> Calculators come with App4Math, which is the free version of Zoom Math 100 I think.
07:10 <@BrandonW> He usually has 3 versions of everything.
07:11 <@BrandonW> Free, Basic, and Advanced if I remember correctly.
07:11 <@BrandonW> Advanced costing $50-$70 typically.
07:11 < Randomist> Sounds like a certain OS..
07:11 < Genolo> quick let's make clones of them
07:11 <@BrandonW> This is the genius of it, you can get every single free version from the web site right now.
07:11 <@BrandonW> You get the higher versions through registration keys.
07:11 <@BrandonW> All the functionality is already in the free version.
07:11 <@BrandonW> You just have to unlock it.
07:11 < Randomist> Interesting.
07:12 < Genolo> i'm playing 2 letter words in scrabble
07:12 <@BrandonW> Which is the smartest way to protect against cracks.
07:12 <@BrandonW> And it upsets me that he knows this.
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07:13 < Randomist> Doesn't the app need to be de-crypted?
07:13 <@BrandonW> I thought it was just $50...if he hadn't increased it to $70, I just might've bought it once.
07:13 < JoeYoung> He's the Moriarty to our Holmes!
07:14 <@BrandonW> The application is not encrypted.
07:14 < Randomist> Ah.
07:14 <@BrandonW> The strength lies in the inability to reverse-engineer the algorithm he uses to go from calc ID -> zCode -> registration key.
07:14 <@BrandonW> I have no fucking idea how it works.
07:14 <@BrandonW> I've studied it at length.
07:14 <@BrandonW> I give up on that approach.
07:14 < Genolo> and you're doing this just so a crack exists?
07:14 <@BrandonW> Yes.
07:15 < Genolo> what's the point if you don't distrubute it
07:15 < Genolo> just to be superior?
07:15 <@nikky> to prove that BrandonW is superior
07:15 < DSP_Lord> it's what BrandonW does.
07:15 <@BrandonW> Because we can.
07:15 < Randomist> Can't get some registration keys from some people that've bought it and change the calc ID or something liek that?
07:15 < Randomist> "Like," even?
07:15 <@BrandonW> How can something be designed this well and you just let it sit?
07:15 <@BrandonW> Randomist, yes, that would be heaven.
07:15 <@BrandonW> Know anyone that bought it?
07:15 < Randomist> Good point.
07:16 < Randomist> Also, I thought someone was working on their own ZoomMath-like app, except free.
07:17 < Jonimus> Randomist: well symbolic+Omnicalc+prettypt can get fairly close to his simpler apps if you add in some TI-basic
07:17 < JoeYoung> See, Randomist, I think that is what we SHOULD do.
07:18 < Genolo> i would do it if i wasn't a dumbass
07:18 < Jonimus> JoeYoung: get to it then
07:18 < n00b450> BrandonW: sorry for bringing up the 50$ earlier, if that bothers you
07:18 <@BrandonW> I would imagine the actual code to duplicate the functionality is relatively minimal.
07:18 < JoeYoung> If someone procures a competent clone of the software, it can get advertised on ticalc like crazy and decimate this guy.
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07:18 <@BrandonW> n00b450, it doesn't bother me.
07:19 < Genolo> personally i think we should decimate anyone who charges for calculator programs
07:19 <@BrandonW> This application is up to 3-4 pages now, you know.
07:19 < Genolo> goes against my morals
07:19 <@BrandonW> Yes.
07:19 <@BrandonW> That's one reason to do it.
07:20 <@nikky> www.calc-tech.org
07:20 < Randomist> Yuck.  Flash-based.
07:21 < Genolo> not that dude again
07:21 < Genolo> that app is so simple
07:21 < Genolo> even i could program it with ti basic on an 83
07:21 <@nikky> I ended up not allowing the demo
07:21 <@nikky> on ticalc
07:21 < n00b450> what does the trial do?
07:22 <@BrandonW> Nothing pisses me off more than putting "OS" in the name of something that is not even close to an OS.
07:22 < Randomist> "Hello world."
07:22 <@nikky> just not everything
07:22 <@nikky> is included
07:22 <@BrandonW> With the exception of MirageOS, because the name is a statement that it is not an OS, it just does some of what it does.
07:22 <@BrandonW> Hence the mirage.
07:22 <@nikky> He had a open source version released on ticalc before
07:22 <@nikky> If he was a douche I'd distribute it
07:22 < n00b450> well at least it's not as expensive as zoom math
07:22 <@nikky> but the price isn't totally unreasonable, and he sems nice enough
07:22 < Jonimus> nice nikky 
07:23 <@nikky> and he's not this zoom guy
07:23 < Genolo> i still say we take down anyone who charges
07:23 <@BrandonW> I have to admit, Zoom Chemistry looks kind of neat.
07:24 < Randomist> I wouldn't think they really have a call center of SAT_OS experts, ready to take your calls at any time.
07:24 < Jonimus> if I hadn't just got done with chem I would have bought it and given you the key BrandonW 
07:24 < n00b450> this does roughly the same chem feature: http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/415/41509.html
07:24 <@BrandonW> It's just like anyone who doesn't distribute source, I always disassemble and upload it silently.
07:25 < n00b450> it uses 8-bit integers so it can't handle big numbers though
07:26 < Randomist> All calc apps should be free and open-source?
07:26 < Genolo> yes
07:26 <@BrandonW> Yes.
07:26 < n00b450> well can an asm app not be open source?
07:26 <@BrandonW> I believe it shouldn't.
07:26 <@nikky> All ticalc apps, to my knowledge, are free
07:26 <@nikky> no trial/share ware
07:26 < n00b450> Since you can decompile all apps to the exact source, they're basically open source
07:27 <@nikky> open source is a license thing
07:28 <@BrandonW> Except for ridiculously simple applications, no one has ever reversed a Flash application back to source.
07:28 <@BrandonW> I'm close with MirageOS.
07:28 < Genolo> i thought the source existed/
07:28 < Genolo> ?*
07:28 < n00b450> it's closed source
07:28 <@BrandonW> We lost the source to the 1.3 beta.
07:28 <@nikky> :(
07:28 < Genolo> i swear it was uploaded somewhere
07:29 <@BrandonW> Absolutely not.
07:29 <@BrandonW> It's never been uploaded anywhere.
07:29 < Randomist> I wonder if anyone ever disassembled that Flash unlocker for the 68ks that the author did not open-source because he was "afraid of what people would do with it."
07:29 <@BrandonW> Only certain DS members have it.
07:29 <@BrandonW> Randomist, yes.
07:29 < Genolo> i swear i've seen the source somewhere
07:29 < Genolo> but like 3 years ago
07:29 < Genolo> so i could be mistaken
07:29 <@BrandonW> He won't release the source now because people have already reverse-engineered it.
07:29 < Genolo> but i remember distinctly being like
07:29 <@BrandonW> Which is downright stupid.
07:29 < Genolo> "holy shit this is long"
07:29 <@BrandonW> You might've seen a disassembly of mine.
07:30 <@BrandonW> From when I found Save the Whales.
07:30 < n00b450> the diassembled source is in calcutil and noshell (I think) anyways
07:30 < Genolo> BrandonW: probably
07:30 <@BrandonW> Just enough to implement program support.
07:30 <@BrandonW> None of the core.
07:30 < n00b450> i see
07:31 < Genolo> what are you going to do with the mirageos source
07:31 <@nikky> Admire it
07:31 < Randomist> MirageOS 2.0?
07:31 <@BrandonW> Nothing, because it was assembled with TASM. As insane as this sounds, it's actually better to reverse-engineer it back to source in ZDS and use that instead.
07:31 <@BrandonW> So that's what I'm doing.
07:31 < Genolo> errrrr
07:32 < tr1p1ea> zds
07:32 <@BrandonW> One, because it's better, and two, because I want to say I reversed it back to source.
07:32 <@BrandonW> That's the one application we've always wanted to do that to.
07:32 < tr1p1ea> i hate the no scroll wheel support :X
07:32 <@BrandonW> Yeah, me too.
07:32 <@nikky> I don't own any scroll wheels
07:32 <@BrandonW> But it encourages keyboard use, which is quicker anyway.
07:32 < n00b450> BrandonW: I thought i saw a MirageOS2 app of yours before, what was that?
07:32 <@BrandonW> There's OS2, which is a third-party OS.
07:33 <@BrandonW> I've never even started on changing MirageOS 1.3.
07:33 <@BrandonW> Not until I get it back to source.
07:33 < Randomist> Not to be confused with IBM OS/2.  :P
07:33 <@nikky> That's a lie.
07:33 < n00b450> oh yeah here: http://brandonw.net/crap/MirageOS2.zip
07:34 <@BrandonW> Oh, that's some wacky thing somebody asked me to do in an e-mail.
07:34 <@BrandonW> Some scary teacher lockdown program.
07:34 < Genolo> /crap/
07:34 <@BrandonW> With a name of MirageOS.
07:34 <@BrandonW> To fool students.
07:34 < Randomist> Evil.
07:34 < n00b450> lol
07:35 <@BrandonW> People ask me for stuff like that.
07:35 <@BrandonW> I forgot I even did that.
07:35 < Genolo> hey you have that zoom math thing in /crap/
07:35 < n00b450> just search google
07:35  * Randomist bows to the Great Google.
07:35 <@BrandonW> I use /crap/ for slightly illegal stuff I don't advertise.
07:36 < Genolo> http://brandonw.net/crap/pongos84.jpg
07:36 < Genolo> lol pong os
07:36 <@BrandonW> Nothing's guaranteed to stay there either.
07:36 <@nikky> the 73 cert is very boring
07:36 <@BrandonW> Stuff that goes in /calcstuff/ stays.
07:36 <@BrandonW> Genolo, the reason why that's significant is because there was a time where you couldn't get PongOS on an 84+/SE.
07:36 < Randomist> BrandonW:  My campus won't let me access your /crap/ folder.  :P
07:36 <@nikky> ?
07:36 < n00b450> fail internet filtering
07:37 < Jonimus> ^
07:37 < i_c-Y> how is imgburn slightly illegal?
07:37 <@BrandonW> It's not.
07:37 <@BrandonW> It's a folder of crap.
07:37 <@BrandonW> It's just where slightly illegal stuff goes.
07:37 < Randomist> I can access /calcstuff/
07:37 <@BrandonW> Legitimate stuff goes there, too.
07:37 < Randomist> But I guess they must have found out about the slightly illegal stuff and said "no."
07:37 <@nikky> ...
07:38 <@nikky> you have filtered internet?
07:38 <@nikky> At a school
07:38 <@nikky> ?
07:38 < Randomist> Yah.  It is lulzy.
07:38 <@BrandonW> Yeah, there's stuff in there that shouldn't be.
07:39 < Randomist> You can have all the porn you want.  They just try to filter out illegal stuff and Gnutella and un-encrypted BitTorrent.
07:39 <@nikky> Are you in jail?
07:39 <@BrandonW> I think he is.
07:40 < Genolo> http://brandonw.net/calcstuff/MirageOS.txt
07:40 < Genolo> that's probably what i saw
07:40 < n00b450> Hey your IDA pro is licensed to Lennart Reus
07:40 < Randomist> Yah, it's netjail.
07:40 < Randomist> Actually, I guess they do that 'cause this is a small town and a small community collage (that just happens to have dorms).
07:41 < Randomist> And they don't want to pay for all that shit.
07:41 <@BrandonW> n00b450, yeah, I got that years ago.
07:41 < Genolo> speaking of porn i wonder if my sister looks at porn
07:41 <@nikky> I'm pretty sure that if a college in this state had filtered internet, we would seriously shut them down.
07:41 <@nikky> Even our libraries don't have filtered internet...
07:42 <@BrandonW> At work, MySpace is blocked. That's the only thing.
07:42 < Genolo> internet at my school is filtered but what do you expect it's a highschool
07:42 <@nikky> Our work isn't filtered either
07:42 <@BrandonW> You can look at porn all you want, just no MySpace.
07:42 <@BrandonW> Which I'm fine with.
07:43 <@nikky> :p
07:43 < Randomist> That's actually a blessing in disguise. 
07:43 < millinao> so many things are filtered in my high school
07:43 < millinao> penny arcade is banned for "games", wowheroes same thing, imageshack's banned for porn
07:44 < millinao> although there's numerous porn sites that they failed to block
07:44 < Genolo> same at my school
07:44 < Genolo> i think
07:44 < Genolo> never tried imageshack
07:44 < n00b450> NetSupport School is pretty amazing software (for schools, at least)
07:44 < Genolo> they block some game sites
07:45 < Randomist> That is why SSH tunnels are so nice.
07:46 <@nikky> The only reason I use SSH tunnels is for IM over unprotected networks.
07:46 < millinao> if my school banned reddit, i'd probably get too bored to be in there
07:46 < Randomist> They were nice at my high school, then they decided to block out all of the DynDNS/No-IP domains.
07:47 <@BrandonW> Reddit sucks.
07:48 < Jonimus> Randomist: that is why you memorize your IP every morning :P
07:49 < Randomist> They have the dorms sanctioned off on their own VLAN here, but you can still access a machine in the dorms over the wireless.  :P
07:50 < Randomist> They have it where you're supposedly not supposed to be able to get to a CIFS network over the wireless, but you can connect to it by \\<DynDNS or IP address here> .
07:51 <@BrandonW> I would imagine you scare people with your knowledge of the school's network setup.
07:51 <@nikky> I know a lot about ours...
07:51 <@BrandonW> But you're not scary like Randomist.
07:52 <@nikky> True
07:53 < millinao> I had physical access to the server rack in middle school, man I regret not wreaking havoc
07:53 <@BrandonW> That's the one place I'm not allowed at work, which I'm fine with.
07:54 <@BrandonW> When something goes down, I don't want to be anywhere near it.
07:54 < Randomist> Murphy's Law, etc.
07:54 <@nikky> You're not allowed in the server room?
07:54 <+Netham45> heh
07:54 <+Netham45> school computers
07:54 <@BrandonW> Correct.
07:54 <@nikky> Are you a felon?
07:55 < Randomist> Netham45:  Haven't heard a "FFS" from you yet, so I suppose your hardware is going fine.  :P
07:55 <+Netham45> Randomist, yup
07:55 <@BrandonW> I am not.
07:55 <+Netham45> my schools idea of security is disabling the address bar in explorer, along with the network computer browser, and having all the student shares on a Novell server with 'Everyone' set to full access
07:55 <@chronomex> lol
07:55 <+Netham45> then they get mad at me when I get in there. >.>
07:56 <@nikky> :(
07:56 < Randomist> Don't get caught, then you have nothing to worry 'bout.
07:57 < n00b450> you can usually brute-force the password of any windows server remotely
07:57 < Randomist> Unless they've got keyloggers or something or other on all your school machines.
07:57 <+Netham45> n00b450, yea, no you can't.
07:57 <@nikky> Nobody uses Windows anyway.
07:57 <+Netham45> Randomist, no, I reported it as a stupid bug
07:57 <+Netham45> and they were like SUSPENSION
07:57 < Randomist> Pfft.  BOFHs.
07:58 <+Netham45> according to my schools technologist, they wanted to press charges until she explained how fucking retarded they were being
07:58 < Randomist> "At least I reported it and didn't fuck y'all's shit up."
07:59 <@nikky> It must be fun living in a backwards state
07:59 <+Netham45> oh yea
07:59 <@BrandonW> Which state is that?
07:59 <+Netham45> Colorado
07:59 <+Netham45> woo
07:59 <@BrandonW> Note to self, never go near Colorado.
07:59 <+Netham45> yea
07:59 <+Netham45> we have beautiful land
07:59 <+Netham45> and fucked up politics
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07:59 < Genolo> you can get a saturday detention in my school for looking at porn
07:59 < Genolo> it's horrible
07:59 <+Netham45> ...
08:00 <@BrandonW> Aren't you the same one that linked to the article about the 12-year-old sex offenders?
08:00 < Genolo> yep
08:00 <+Netham45> Genolo's a weird one
08:00 <+Netham45> in better news, I got two first-place medals at the regional FBLA competitions, woo
08:00 < Genolo> i got a 2 hour saturday once for "breaking the internet agreement"
08:01 < Genolo> :(
08:01 < Randomist> How'd you "break" it?
08:01 <+Netham45> why the fuck were you looking at porn?
08:01 < Genolo> because school is boring
08:01 <+Netham45> but, don't worry, I got a two-day suspenison for reporting the fact that I could get to ANYONES shit...
08:02 < Genolo> why did you report it
08:02 < Genolo> you should have taken all of it
08:02 <@BrandonW> School is boring, so you decided to look at porn? How does that make sense?
08:02 <@nikky> That's what they get for using windows.
08:02 <@BrandonW> I think you're actually a sexual deviant.
08:02 <+Netham45> nikky, meh, it's all novell networking,.
08:03 <@nikky> That's what they get for using windows.
08:03 <+Netham45> >.>
08:03 <+Netham45> novell networking at a central workstation for the largest school district in the state. there's like 300,000 people hitting the damn server at the same time at 8 AM.
08:04 <@nikky> You have 300,000 people at the largest school district?
08:04 <+Netham45> 300,000 that'd be using the computers at any one time
08:04 <@nikky> So you have one school district for the entire state?
08:04 <+Netham45> most of the classes aren't on computers
08:04 <+Netham45> I don't know
08:04 <+Netham45> I'm going off of some figure I heard somewher
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08:05 < Randomist> Five years later, and I've still got people that I never even knew pointing at me and going "Hey, that's that guy that got kicked out of high school for breaking into the computers."
08:06 <@BrandonW> What exactly did you do?
08:06 <@nikky> Installed debian
08:07 < Genolo> i want to get kicked out of school for breaking shit
08:07 < Randomist> Wrote a batch script Trojan that downloaded, replaced, and executed itself every minute or so.
08:07 <@BrandonW> Bring a sledgehammer and start swinging it around.
08:07 <@BrandonW> You're bound to hit or kill something.
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08:09 <+Netham45> nikky, looks like there are only 85,000 kids in Jeffco Schools
08:10 < Genolo> Randomist: what did you do when they kicked you out
08:10 < Randomist> They didn't kick me out for that; they put me in suspension for almost a month.
08:10 <+Netham45> I'm going to bed, night.
08:11 < Randomist> I moved out of the school after that, 'cause if I had gotten in trouble there again, they'd have sent me to that boot camp school.
08:12 < Randomist> Everyone thought I'd gotten kicked out, and that stuck.
08:17 < Genolo> could you get kicked out if you view porn in school with your own netowrk
08:17 < Genolo> work
08:18 < Randomist> Probably.
08:19 < Genolo> you aren't breaking their agreement though
08:20 < Randomist> I'm sure they'd find some excuse.
08:21 <@BrandonW> What is it with you and porn?
08:21 < Genolo> it was an example
08:21 < Randomist> BrandonW:  Well, it is the Internet...
08:21 < Genolo> i hardly ever look at porn
08:22 < Genolo> and it's always 2d
08:22 <@BrandonW> I don't even know what that means.
08:22 <@BrandonW> 3D porn?
08:22 < Randomist> [Whispers:]  Hentai.
08:22 < Genolo> i prefer ecchi
08:22 <@BrandonW> Psychos.
08:23  * Randomist drops your "S."
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08:23 <@BrandonW> Hey, you're the one that knew what it meant.
08:24 <@nikky> I think it has to do with tentacles
08:24 <@nikky> I assume everything that has to do with porn and sounds like it's asian is octopus-related or something
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08:24 <@BrandonW> I'm aware of hentai and the tentacle rape and all that.
08:25 <@nikky> sicko
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08:25 < Genolo> that conversation got really weird
08:26 <@BrandonW> You started it, sicko.
08:26 < Genolo> it went from school networks to tentacles
08:26 <@nikky> BAAAWWWWW
08:26 < Genolo> i should probably stop talking now
08:27 < Randomist> Well:  Networks, Internet(s), tubes, cables, tentacles...
08:27 < Genolo> you should probably stop talking too
08:27 <@BrandonW> The Wikipedia article is "Tentacle erotica". I just can't understand how people can be turned on by that.
08:27 <@nikky> !k Netham45 Fall Guy
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08:28 < Genolo> there is some disguisting stuff on wikipedia
08:28 < Randomist> BrandonW:  Rule 34, etc.
08:28 <@BrandonW> !k Netham45 auto-rejoin
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08:29 <@efneTI85> I only speak the truth.
08:29 <@efneTI85> Netham is our most valued member.
08:29 < DSP_Lord> gtfo efneTI85.
08:29 < Randomist> TIrotica.
08:30 <@efneTI86> Suck it dry, DSP_Lord
08:30 <@BrandonW> I can't remember if I lost calcporn.com or not.
08:30 <@BrandonW> I think the domain itself is still mine.
08:30 <@nikky>  Registrar of Record: Netfirms Inc.
08:30 <@nikky>   Record expires on 2010-11-30.
08:30 <@nikky>   Record created on 2007-11-30.
08:30 <@nikky>   Database last updated on 2010-01-31 00:51:30.
08:30 < Genolo> oh god epic
08:31 < Genolo> you registered calcporn.com?
08:31 <@BrandonW> Yes.
08:31 <@BrandonW> It used to redirect to brandonw.net.
08:31 < Genolo> rofl
08:31 < Randomist> But now... [8-bit porn music]
08:31 <@BrandonW> I was going to make a parody site.
08:31 <@BrandonW> Graphing calculator porn.
08:31 <@nikky> Yes, we get it.
08:32 <@BrandonW> A lot of people don't.
08:32 < Genolo> closest thing to that is making a program named "sperm" and sending it over link cable
08:32 <@BrandonW> Some people think it's naked women holding graphing calculators.
08:32 < Genolo> "now recieving: sperm"
08:32 <@BrandonW> But it's nothing but calculators.
08:32 < Genolo> !k genolo stop  talking
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08:32 <@BrandonW> It would've been close-up shots of link port cable insertions, battery covers removed, etc.
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08:33 <@BrandonW> I think kicking yourself counts as bot abuse.
08:34 <+jr19> poor bots
08:34 <@efneTI86> We like the abuse.
08:34 < n00b450> Nothing gets between nerds and homework - http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/5576/46921242.gif
08:35 <@efneTI86> OH YES, KICK HARDER.
08:35 <@efneTI86> KICK WITH ME, BRANDONW, YOU HOT JUNGLE STUD YOU.
08:37 <@BrandonW> !k Netham45 requested
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08:38 <@BrandonW> I can't ignore efneTI86.
08:38 <@BrandonW> I am its slave.
08:38 < Randomist> <Silver TI-84+ SE> "bcall(_SendAByte)!  bcall(_SendAByte)!"  <Pink TI-84+ SE> "bcall(_Rec1stByteNC)!  bcall(_Rec1stByteNC)!"
08:38 <@BrandonW> How long were you working on that?
08:39 <@efneTI86> OH GOD YES. I LOVE YOUR LINK PORT.
08:40 <@BrandonW> _Rec1stByteNC is an interesting choice, it means it sits and waits to take it.
08:40 < Randomist> BrandonW:  The amount of time it took for me to swerve out of getting sidetracked by things in the z80 BCALL documentation.
08:41 <@BrandonW> I'm going to have to go buy the pink 84+SE.
08:41 <@BrandonW> I have the blue one.
08:41 <@BrandonW> And put them together.
08:41 < Genolo> i used to have the blue one
08:41  * Randomist hums as he reads over the documentation.
08:41 < Randomist> Maybe I won't be selling my calc so soon.
08:41 <@BrandonW> There's some good stuff in there.
08:41 <@BrandonW> Genolo, was it the bright blue one?
08:42 < Genolo> i think it was
08:42 < Genolo> not too sure
08:42 < Genolo> my sister used it and it got stolen a couple years back
08:42 < Genolo> it was clear
08:42 < Genolo> ish
08:42 < Genolo> but blue tinted
08:43 < Randomist> Hm, is there a clear TI-84+ SE?
08:43 <@BrandonW> No, but there's a clear 84+.
08:43 <@chronomex> :P
08:43 <@BrandonW> http://datamath.org/Graphing/ZOOM_TI-84PLUS_SE_WM08_BL.htm This is the one I have.
08:44 <@BrandonW> There are _many_ "blue" ones.
08:44 <@BrandonW> It matches the only pink one I've seen.
08:45 <@BrandonW> Datamath.org actually has a good layout of all the different color variations.
08:45 <@BrandonW> I thought it was impossible to catalog, but he seems to have done it.
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08:46 <@efneTI86> Your hot calculator talk really turns my electrons going, BrandonW.
08:47 <@efneTI86> In fact, it makes me confuse my words!
08:47 <@efneTI86> !k netham45
08:47 <@BrandonW> !k Netham45 requested
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08:47 <@efneTI86> Thanks pal.
08:47 < Genolo> mine was like this
08:48 < Genolo> http://www.vxs-secure.com/NAINDIA/ti_images/edu/texas/ti%2083plus/TI-83Plus-Pacific-Blue_main.jpg
08:48 < Genolo> i *think*
08:48 < Genolo> been like over 3 years
08:48 <@BrandonW> That's hot.
08:48 <@BrandonW> My 83+ is translucent blue too, but it's darker than that.
08:48 < Genolo> now all i have left are normal black ones
08:48 < Genolo> and the normal grey 84+ silver
08:51 < Jess-> 84+ silver edition with pink faceplate! :O
08:55 <@nikky> " I'm a social media expert"
08:55 <@nikky> So annoying...
08:55 < Randomist> "I'm a whale biologist."
08:56 < Randomist> "And I use MirageOS."
08:57 <@BrandonW> Who's a social media expert?
08:58 <@nikky> Some random twitter ho
08:58 < Randomist> HA.
08:58 <@nikky> There seem to be two different kinds of twitter users
08:58 <@nikky> a) the older, 
08:58 <@nikky> "social media" experts
08:58 <@nikky> who do @sdkjhsd WELCOME TO TWITTER
08:58 <@nikky> and basically do @so_and_so constantly
08:58 <@nikky> they have 80 trillion followers and follow the same amount
08:58 <@nikky> they are annoying
08:58 <@nikky> and b)
08:59 <@nikky> the younger people who never do @so_and_so unless it actually makes sense
08:59 <@nikky> and usually have 50-100 followers/following (and usually less...)
08:59 < Genolo> did the earth's population increase a whole lot while i wasn't looking
08:59 <@nikky> they are cool
08:59 < Randomist> And "C," the younger people who give updates to their life every picosecond.
08:59 <@nikky> well, yes
08:59 < Genolo> i don't even know what twitter is
09:00 < Randomist> Genolo:  Good.
09:00 < Randomist> Stay that way.
09:00 <@nikky> and a) includs people who link to ranodm news stories
09:00 <@nikky> like ZOMG LOOK HOW SMART I AM I READ THE ECONOMICST
09:01 <@BrandonW> I still don't understand Twitter.
09:01 <@nikky> there are two spheres
09:01 < Randomist> Micro MySpace.
09:01 < Randomist> Or, rather, Facebook.
09:01 <@BrandonW> It seems like there's something more to it I don't understand.
09:01 <@BrandonW> Some sort of business thing.
09:01 <@nikky> As I said, there's two spheres
09:01 <@nikky> the business marketing retards
09:01 <@nikky> who use it to "network"
09:02 <@nikky> which is totally insane
09:02 <@BrandonW> Yes.
09:02 <@nikky> and the non-retards
09:02 <@nikky> non-retards are hard to fine
09:02 <@nikky> and have a lot more posts than replies
09:02 <@nikky> and usually update a few times a week, at most
09:02 <@nikky> usually with funny or snarky things
09:02  * Randomist still only has one.  :P
09:03 <@BrandonW> I mean, what's the point? Do you get a notification when someone you're following makes a post?
09:03 <@BrandonW> So you can go read it whenever, wherever?
09:03 <@nikky> well, no
09:03 <@nikky> it's more of a clint thing
09:03 <@nikky> I do it when I'm bored
09:03 <@nikky> and/or get some brilliant observation
09:03 <@BrandonW> A what thing?
09:03 <@nikky> you read it from a client
09:03 <@nikky> which shows just a feed of stuff
09:03 < Randomist> Twitter:  A Place for Stalkers.
09:04 <@BrandonW> That's the only use I see for it.
09:04 <@BrandonW> Having an account means you have stalkers and you're trying to appease them.
09:04 <@BrandonW> That's all I can see.
09:04 <@nikky> ?
09:04 < Genolo> sounds fun
09:04 <@nikky> maybe if you geotag..
09:04 <@BrandonW> Who do you follow on Twitter, nikky?
09:04 <@BrandonW> And why?
09:05 <@nikky> just some friends
09:05 <@nikky> because they usually have something interesting to say
09:05 <@BrandonW> Like what?
09:05 <@BrandonW> I want to see one example.
09:06 <@nikky> just stuff
09:06 < Randomist> Intersting stuff that can't be said on IRC or a blog or an instant messenger or [Continues list...]?
09:07 <@nikky> I HATE YOU ALL
09:07 <@BrandonW> What could that possibly be, Randomist?
09:07 <@efneTI86> CEASE AND DESIST.
09:07 < Randomist> Yah, what could be so interesting that it must be said on Twitter?
09:07 <@nikky> I hate you guys
09:08 < Genolo> go tweet that
09:10 <@BrandonW> So it's like a feed reader? You make the decision "hey, I'll go see what everyone I know is saying/thinking lately" and you read it all at once?
09:10 <@BrandonW> And maybe post replies?
09:10 <@nikky> yes, basically
09:10 <@nikky> except not really replies
09:10 < Randomist> http://twitter.com/Wintervenom0
09:10 <@nikky> replies are for group "a"
09:10 <@nikky> the marketing retards
09:10 < Genolo> rofl
09:10 < Spengo> http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/498203 facebook twitter
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09:13 <@BrandonW> nikky, so what's the motivation for making posts?
09:14 < Randomist> BrandonW:  Same motivation for YouTube comments.
09:14 <@BrandonW> I don't know what that is either.
09:15 <@nikky> NEVERMIND BRANDON
09:15 < Randomist> Well, it's clearly not the video.  :P
09:15 <@nikky> SUCK IT DRY
09:15 <@BrandonW> I seriously want to understand, the whole world uses this thing, even people who really have nothing to do with technology.
09:16 < Randomist> Especially all the times you can see a video of, say, flowers swinging in the wind, and scroll down to the comments to a full-blown religion debate.
09:16 < Spengo> should I kick Randomist for signing up for twitter?
09:16 < Spengo> hmm..
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09:18 <@BrandonW> I feel like I'm missing out on something that could be good, but no one can seem to tell me what's good about it.
09:18 <@BrandonW> So I guess not.
09:18 < Spengo> what would you be missing out on?
09:18 < Randomist> BrandonW:  Avoid it like the Plague.
09:18 < Spengo> oh right... vagina :U
09:19 <@BrandonW> I don't know anymore.
09:19 < Spengo> BrandonW, well you should try it sometime, it feels better than it smells
09:19 < Randomist> BrandonW:  Also, I don't think a hundred and something-odd characters per post would be enough to contain all that awesomeness.
09:20 <@BrandonW> Yeah, so, how do I try it? What should I post about? What I'm eating?
09:20 <@BrandonW> Who should I follow?
09:20 < Spengo> I wasn't talking about twitter <_<
09:21 <@BrandonW> That was a stupid joke.
09:22 < Spengo> nikky, you invited kevin to #ti?
09:22 <@BrandonW> That's part of the point of #ti.
09:22 <@BrandonW> To unite with that side of the community.
09:22  * Spengo vaguely wonders how long it will last
09:22 < Randomist> Yeah, not to JUST FUCKIN' STOP!
09:23 < Spengo> well hopefully he's changed, it's been a few years after all
09:23 <@nikky> I agree with Spengo 
09:23 < Randomist> Spengo:  Hell, naw, he ain't changed.
09:23 <@nikky> !k Randomist 
09:23 <@BrandonW> He genuinely wants to try, so do all of us.
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09:23 < Spengo> but if not, all it takes is one person to offer polite help/constructive criticism about something he did and BOOM
09:23 <@nikky> that's not true
09:23 <@nikky> stop it
09:24 <@BrandonW> Don't you ruin this for us, Spengo.
09:24 <@BrandonW> We'll kill you.
09:24 <@nikky> If you don't want to participate, that's fine
09:24 < Spengo> well I'm just not going to go in there so I won't mess it up for you
09:24 <@BrandonW> I can't imagine why you would, anyway.
09:24 <@BrandonW> You have nothing to do with calculators anymore.
09:24 < Spengo> ya
09:24  * nikky humps BrandonW 
09:25 < Genolo> staying up until 4:30 am was worth it just to see that
09:25  * BrandonW glomps nikky
09:25 < Randomist> JoeYoung or whoever that is that keeps coming back here every other two weeks because of something funky that went down at Omnimaga with him trigger-banning people.
09:25 < Spengo> I don't really know joeyoung
09:26 < Spengo> I think I talked to him maybe once
09:26 <@nikky> he's just butthurt
09:26 < Spengo> lul
09:26 <@nikky> discussion is over
09:26  * Randomist pushes the "Next" button.
09:26 <@BrandonW> What happens if you click Close?
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09:27 < Randomist> Oh, no, I have closed mah terminal.
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09:27 < efneTI92> [leofox] All we do in hell is play DDR!
09:27  * Randomist opens a terminal, SSHes back into Idle Mind, and `screen -D -RR`s.
09:27 < Spengo> how come TI doesn't make something with one of the new arm cortex a8 cpus
09:27 < Spengo> you could make a pretty badass calculator with that
09:28 <@BrandonW> We have an ARM9, what else do you want?
09:28 < Randomist> Also, 'cause, then, they'd have to deal with us.
09:28 < Spengo> BrandonW, something that doesn't suck balls
09:28 <@BrandonW> It doesn't anymore.
09:28 <@BrandonW> Thanks to the exploit.
09:28 < Spengo> lol
09:28 < millinao> ah, fuck it
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09:28 < Randomist> <tinfoilhat> Then again, maybe they're using us to gether intel.
09:29 <@BrandonW> That's a very real possibility.
09:29 < Randomist> Y'know, then they could come out with a new calculator with bad-ass hardware, but locked-the-hell-down. </tinfoilhat>
09:30 < Randomist> Hopefully, they don't start putting TPM chips in their calcs or something like that.
09:31 < Randomist> Or do like Apple with the encrypted firmware.
09:33 <@BrandonW> The Nspire OS and firmware are encrypted.
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09:35 < Randomist> Eep, three and a half in the morning.
09:37 < Randomist> So, it turns out the guy who got his expensive Macbook Pro stolen last year...
09:37 < Randomist> Well, the person who stole it is still here, using it.  :P
09:37 < Randomist> They gave it to me to try to get it to connect to the wireless, and I saw the user information.
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09:43 <@chronomex> BrandonW: twitter is good for those occasions when you have something you think is witty that you really need to say, but you know that everyone you tell it to will not care
09:44 <@BrandonW> So you put it out there in case someone actively seeks it out?
09:44 <@chronomex> I don't particularly care whether anyone reads it or not
09:44 <@BrandonW> So why do it?
09:45 <@chronomex> though there is some satisfaction I derive from knowing that people *might* be reading it
09:45 <@BrandonW> So you do care.
09:45 <@chronomex> pfft
09:45 <@chronomex> I suppose
09:45 <@chronomex> but I don't care *much*
09:45 < Randomist> Right.
09:45  * Randomist inserts a few more Is in there.
09:46 <@BrandonW> In where?
09:46  * chronomex points
09:46 <@chronomex> somewhere random
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09:47 < Randomist> s:there:above word:
09:47 <@BrandonW> Better Off Ted is hilarious, by the way.
09:47 <@BrandonW> I had no idea.
09:47 < Randomist> s:T:to B:
09:47  * Randomist goes there.
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09:48 <@BrandonW> I think you should, you're not making any sense.
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09:49 <@chronomex> has he ever?
09:50 <@BrandonW> More than now.
09:51 < Randomist> At least I don't 
09:51 < Randomist> IRC high.
09:52 <@BrandonW> So you say.
09:55 < Randomist> Or drunk.  [Looks at Leofox.]
10:04 <@chronomex> g'night
10:05 < Randomist> It's four in the morning, and we're banging on doors.
10:11 < Randomist> And, so, we push HL and BC onto the stack, and we've go to load...
10:12 <@BrandonW> For ours and your own sake, go to bed.
10:13 < Randomist> Gotos are bad, unless we're talking JP and JR.
10:14 < Randomist> And DJNZ and whatnot.
10:14 <@BrandonW> Find a way to work OTIR in there.
10:15 <@BrandonW> usb8x uses it, and that makes me happy.
10:18 < Randomist> Ooh.  I should work out a FUSE filesystem that could talk to the calculator.
10:20 < Randomist> Actually, wasn't there something in development to make the calc say to the OS, "Hey, I am so totally a generic storage device!"
10:20 < Randomist> [OS on the computer.]
10:21 <@BrandonW> Yeah, I was working on it, but with PC-side write caching and everything, it's just not possible.
10:22 < Randomist> Hm.  I guess the FUSE option would be the next-to-best thing then, at least here.
10:24 < Randomist> Holy crap, it's already 0425!
10:24 < Randomist> Time, stop going by so fast!
10:27 <@BrandonW> I have no experience at all with FUSE.
10:27 <@BrandonW> I only know what I just googled.
10:27 <@BrandonW> Would it let you translate between the calculator VAT and whatever it expects?
10:28 < Randomist> It can do whatever you want it to do that you can make look like a filesystem.
10:28 <@BrandonW> So get on it!
10:30 < debrouxl> Yes, it should be possible to let you interact with the calculator VAT as if it were a regular filesystem.
10:30 < debrouxl> For example, I already used a pre-made FUSE for OneWire devices, several years ago.
10:30 <@BrandonW> That sounds like something worth implementing.
10:31 < debrouxl> It's not portable.
10:32 < debrouxl> Especially, there doesn't seem to be a real FUSE port for Windows.
10:32 <@BrandonW> I wouldn't expect it to be used on Windows, ever.
10:33 < Randomist> Yah, they've got a driver for this already.  We don't.
10:34 <@BrandonW> What do you mean?
10:34 <@BrandonW> All we have is TI Connect/Graph Link or TiLP.
10:35 < Randomist> But wai--
10:35 < Randomist> Oh, right.  The whole write-caching thing.
10:35 <@BrandonW> If it did actually work, it would also have worked on Linux.
10:35 <@BrandonW> That was the beauty of it.
10:35 <@BrandonW> It would've been FAT16.
10:36 <@BrandonW> We absolutely can expose it as an unformatted USB storage device, the problem is translating it to a standard filesystem.
10:37 <@BrandonW> periph8x would've translated between the calculator VAT and FAT16, by analyzing what sectors the PC was modifying and figuring out what to do to the VAT based on that.
10:37 < Randomist> Wait... I thought there was another one, too.  It was just a driver that just made a virtual filesystem and translated from the calc and back.
10:37 <@BrandonW> And keeping track of FAT/sector changes.
10:37 < Randomist> No on-calc driver.
10:37 <@BrandonW> I wouldn't know about anything PC-side that talked to the calculator through TI's link protocol.
10:38 < Randomist> I swear I saw screenshots of it before.
10:38 < Randomist> Maybe I'm just sleepy and my mind is generating things.
10:39 <@BrandonW> I had screenshots of mine a while back. I can still make read-only support happen, it's just the write caching that prevents it from being 100% both ways.
10:39 <@BrandonW> It would let you hook your calculator up to any PC (or even mobile devices) and get variables off it.
10:39 <@BrandonW> So it's halfway useful.
10:39 <@BrandonW> I had that translation mostly done.
10:40 < Randomist> It wouldn't even work to just have users tell Windows to not write-cache on that device?
10:40 <@BrandonW> It would expose two FAT16 folders, RAM and Flash, and show you 8XPs representing each variable oncalc.
10:40 <@BrandonW> Possibly, but I'm not sure it can even be turned off (I know there's an option for it, but I think turning that off I was still seeing unusual things).
10:40 <@BrandonW> It would need to keep refreshing and asking me what memory actually looks like, not being smart at all.
10:42 <@BrandonW> If I delete an 8XP on the PC, it assumes it's successful and doesn't query the drive again.
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10:42 <@BrandonW> Which is smart, but it's bad for me.
10:42 <@BrandonW> I even thought of exposing a text file in the root directory that you could keep modifying to send pseudo-commands to periph8x and stuff.
10:43 <@BrandonW> It's just too insane.
10:43 <@BrandonW> (commands to delete variables and all)
10:43 <@BrandonW> I also thought about triggering a plug/unplug whenever things got out of sync.
10:43 <@BrandonW> But there's just too much potential for failure.
10:44 < Randomist> If there was a fast way to do it, I'd have suggest, maybe, keep an image of what's been changed and added, then just write all the changes back when the user unmounts the device.'
10:45 <@BrandonW> I don't think there's enough memory for all that. As it is, I was using all 8 RAM pages to keep an image of the FAT and what sectors went to which variables.
10:45 <@BrandonW> And a "reverse FAT", so I could backtrack what variable I needed to mess with oncalc when it requested a specific sector.
10:46 <@BrandonW> So when it went to request a sector, I had to translate which block of memory it actually cared about based on the 8XP header and all, and then work backwards to figure out the starting sector for that file, and then find the variable it went with.
10:46 <@BrandonW> The code for it was just ridiculous.
10:47 <@BrandonW> There was some sort of bug I was trying to work out, but I had enough of it written that you could copy an 8XP off the "drive" and get a program's actual contents.
10:47 <@BrandonW> An 8XK would've been even more of a nightmare.
10:47 <@BrandonW> Since it's Intel Hex.
10:48 <@BrandonW> But as crazy as it is, it would've been somewhat reliable if it was read-only.
10:51 <@BrandonW> I don't think Windows even liked a 2MB FAT16 drive.
10:51 <@BrandonW> I think I had to extend it to 32MB and pretend the rest was in use.
10:51 < Randomist> I think the minimal is, like, sixteeen or something.
10:52 < Randomist> Actually, I'm sure it was sixteen.
10:57 < Randomist> Hm, well, now, I have something to think about working on.  And I should sleep now.  I have a bunch of WebCT tests I have to do tommorrow.  :(
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11:07 <+krisk> hello
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12:22 <+krisk> http://twitter.com/Broslife
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14:21 <@Andy_J> that's what FAT12 is for
14:21 <@Andy_J> coding nightmare though
14:21 <@BrandonW> Yeah.
14:22 <@BrandonW> It was hard enough with FAT16.
14:33 < bsparks> So last night I drag 2 of my old sweatshirts out of the garage and wash them, in hopes of wearing them. And after washing them and drying them. I get one to use when I deliver papers this morning. But then something dawns on me as soon as I walk outside. I wear my Mountain Dew sweatshirt day in and day out because it's thicker than all my other sweatshirts >_>
14:51 <+krisk> :(
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15:21 < efneTI92> [KermM] http://www.cemetech.net :: Leading The Way to the Future
17:19 <+krisk> its all so quiet
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17:23 < i_c-Y> too quiet.
17:24 < JoeYoung> yo
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17:34 < efneTI92> [KermEEE] http://www.cemetech.net :: Leading The Way to the Future
17:34 < i_c-Y> not you again.
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17:41 <+krisk> does bad company 2 have singleplayer content?
17:44 < i_c-Y> look it up
17:44 <+krisk> i was trying to avoid having to do that
18:10 < JoeYoung> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHFbAiJ5qpI&feature=fvst
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18:47 <+jr19> krisk: yes
19:03 <+krisk> cool
19:03 <+krisk> also
19:03 <+krisk> sup?
19:08 < Randomist> Also, hello.
19:13 <+krisk> lo
19:21 <@E-J> tv shows document about cia's secret prisons
19:22 <@E-J> one guy has lost his right eye because one guard put fingers to his eyes
19:29 < i_c-Y> thats what you gotta do to get results.
19:30 <@E-J> maybe, apparently that guy was released after they saw that he hadn't done anything
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19:33 <+jr19> krisk: not much, was playing some video games before, you?
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19:41 < iGenolo> I wasn't aware of this insecure internets at my aunts
19:44 <@E-J> when my parents buy a computer they first ask me or my brothers to install it first time
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19:54 <+krisk> jr19: worked out a little bit, read about mortages, played soldat
19:54 <+krisk> listened to some new goa albums
19:55 <+krisk> hopefully i can pick up my new earphones tomorrow
20:05 <+jr19> i'm looking at these right now http://weburbanist.com/2009/12/07/photoshop-fail-15-hilariously-botched-images/
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20:08 <+krisk> heh
20:08 <+krisk> *ehe
20:09 <+jr19> oops....accidentally flipped the wlan switch
20:09 <+jr19> i went to a birthday party last night
20:10 <+jr19> it was pretty wild
20:11 <+krisk> i drank a little too much last night
20:11 <+krisk> bleh
20:11 <+jr19> so did i
20:11 <+krisk> good proper beer though
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20:12 <+jr19> wasn't terrible though
20:12 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v rcfreak0] by efneTI85
20:12 <+jr19> i woke up and had an extremely dry mouth/throat though
20:12 <+krisk> same
20:12 <+jr19> it was sort of annoyin
20:12 <+jr19> g
20:12 <+krisk> i also woke up in the middle of the night feeling like i had to puke, but i didnt
20:13 <+jr19> i felt that way when i was falling asleep, but then i opened my eyes and was like, wtf i am not going to puke
20:13 <+jr19> i had fun though, saw lots of people that i don't normally see
20:19 <+jr19> this is weird, i'm watchin golf on tv, but they must be having audio problems
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20:19 <+jr19> i can hear their cheesy golf background music during highlights, and i can hear the golf being played
20:19 <+jr19> but i can't hear the commentators
20:19 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Kaeru] by etaonrish
20:19 <+jr19> it's almost creepy
20:20 <+krisk> hehe
20:23 <+jr19> i still haven't showered yet today, i should probably do that soon
20:24 <+krisk> ive showered tice already woo
20:24 <+jr19> why
20:25 <+krisk> once after waking up and once after working out
20:25 <+jr19> ah, right
20:26 <+jr19> i dont really ever work out on sunday
20:26 <+krisk> eh i just wanted to do something healthy
20:26 <+jr19> i think i'm playing volleyball on three nights this week
20:26 <+jr19> yeah i had a really good workout yesterday
20:26 <+jr19> because i knew i'd be lazy today
20:26 <+krisk> and it prepared me for restarting my routien tomorrow
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20:27 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Weegeee] by SnowCrash
20:28 <+jr19> yeah tomorrow is a lifting day for me
20:29 <+jr19> gonna shower quick brb
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20:37 <+krisk> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpwV0OYg1J4
20:37 <+krisk> awesome
20:39 < i_c-Y> nazi
20:40 < sir_lewk> baby
20:41 < sir_lewk> goliath online
20:42 <@nikky> Nazi
20:42 < sir_lewk> that would be incredibly expensive
20:42 <@nikky> Not really.
20:42 <@nikky> Cheaper than tank destroyers
20:43 < sir_lewk> more so then just strapping bombs to dogs
20:43 <@nikky> NOT A GOOD IDEA
20:43 < sir_lewk> also, why the hell is it called "goliath" if it's a fucking tiny ass tank?
20:43 <+krisk> strap bomb to dog
20:43 <+krisk> dog fetches stick
20:43 <+krisk> comes back
20:43 <+krisk> oops
20:43 <@nikky> meanies
20:44 <+krisk> sir_lewk: i think the nazi's had a sense of humor
20:44 < sir_lewk> :P
20:44 < sir_lewk> the russians did the bomb-dog thing pretty well
20:44 < sir_lewk> the dogs also came in handy as food
20:45 < sir_lewk> dual purpose
20:45 <@nikky> :(
20:46 < sir_lewk> yummy
20:46 < JoeYoung> only jewish dogs
20:46 < sir_lewk> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpjZDVr9Z40&feature=related
20:46 < sir_lewk> love the nazi uniforms...
20:53 <+jr19> the warm shower was too enjoyable to finish in a timely fashion
20:53 <@E-J> jews and shower
20:54 <+jr19> wat
20:55 < JoeYoung> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqef_8U4ce4&feature=channel
20:56 <@E-J> jr19: nazi concentration camp officers told jews who were going to gas champer that they are going to shower
20:59 <+krisk> haha thats a nice one JoeYoung
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20:59 < JoeYoung> here's another nice one
20:59 < JoeYoung> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4j3w1QfV35I&feature=channel
20:59 < JoeYoung> it seems boring at first, but keep watching.
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21:01 < sir_lewk> do they make coiled usb->usbmini cables?
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21:04 <+krisk> http://smilepanic.com/images/stories/2009_dec_02/8/12.jpg
21:04 <+krisk> haha oh shi-
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21:07 < JoeYoung> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpDEO6sPdJI&feature=related
21:08 < JoeYoung> krisk++
21:08 < JoeYoung> I'm saving that
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21:16 <+krisk> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Kwkgh3Zo1E&feature=player_embedded
21:16 <+krisk> hahaha
21:16 < JoeYoung> lol
21:17 < JoeYoung> looking now
21:17 < JoeYoung> cute
21:17 < JoeYoung> but check this out :D
21:17 < JoeYoung> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6E51BQVOmdo&feature=channel
21:18 <+krisk> haha
21:18 <+krisk> predictable but funny because of the music
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21:18 < JoeYoung> predictable?
21:19 < JoeYoung> to be honest I didn't see the bag coming! XD
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21:37 <+jr19> i feel like crap today
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21:40 <+jr19> and january is nearly over...this is win
21:40 <+krisk> why that?
21:46 <+jr19> warmer weather is getting closer
21:47 <+jr19> i'm mostly just sick of the brutally cold days
21:47 <+krisk> this is true
21:48 <+krisk> summer will be nice
21:48 <+jr19> yeah i'm really looking forward to it this year
21:48 <+krisk> i dont mind the cold really and i like the snow but summer gives more options for chilling outside n stuff
21:48 <+jr19> i'll be doing some different things than i normally do during the summer
21:48 <+krisk> same
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21:49 <+jr19> i feel like i should drink a protein shake but i'm not in the mood for it
21:50 <+jr19> also should take some painkillers maybe because i have a headache
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21:54 <+krisk> watttttt there has been a whole season of flashpoint without me knowing it
21:58 <+jr19> i tried to do this and it didn't work http://www.onlineeducation.net/lock/
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22:09 < JoeYoung> hmm
22:10 < JoeYoung> the lock thing seems rather straightforward.
22:10 < JoeYoung> I should try it later
22:10 <+jr19> i tried it with a standard Master Lock and the number i got from the first step turned out wrong
22:11 <+krisk> http://208.106.250.72/_media/imgs/articles2/a96855_a527_2-director-of-fun.jpg
22:11 <+krisk> genius
22:12 <+krisk> http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2601580/Train-nut-Sam-is-rail-museum-fun-chief.html#ixzz0UWY8LDVC
22:13 < JoeYoung> Love it
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22:18 <@E-J> !qfind omni
22:18 <@efneTI86> 256:sabel4: <sabel4> And I just managed to wreck a forum by posting a really long post. This is a new low for me online. <Dantes> Meh <Kevin_O> sabel4: LOL <Kevin_O>	O_O <Kevin_O> NOT OMNIMAGA? O_O
22:18 <@efneTI86> 1595:mtgrss111: <bsparks> mtgrss111, in one arguement I think I remember typoing pretty bad because I was trying to talk on the phone aswell, and typed out DJ_Omnimanboobs meaning to type Omnimaga but I had said manboobs, so, yeah
22:18 <@efneTI86> 1374:Merthsoft: <Nikky> Omnimaga is better than UTI.
22:18 <@efneTI86> (Plus 5 more matches: http://tcpa.aardy.net/quotes/?filter=omni&channel=tcpa&search=search)
22:18 < Jonimus> !qsay /b 34
22:18 <@efneTI86> Couldn't find quote /b 34
22:18 < Jonimus> gah
22:18 <@E-J> qfind
22:19 <@E-J> !qfind /b 34
22:19 <@efneTI86> No matches
22:20 < JoeYoung> !qfind 34
22:20 <@efneTI86> 604:froody: [14:34] <aardvarq> [cdi]: Congratulations on making the maxcoderz staff. | [14:34] <aardvarq> [cdi]: What material did you use? | [14:34] <[cdi]> aardvarq, jello | [14:34] <aardvarq> aaahhh | [14:35] <aardvarq> sounds yummy 
22:20 <@efneTI86> 477:Andy_J: [14:34:17] <+[cdi]> !seen DarkAuron | <@Remius> DarkAuron [...] was last seen quitting from #tcpa 11 hours, 11 minutes ago [...] | [14:34:42] * DarkAuron [...] has joined #tcpa
22:20 <@efneTI86> 113:patrickd: <NikkSleep> if you invite it to a channel it will most certainly kline you [21:18:34] <Mike_K> i just invited him [21:18:38] <Mike_K> and im still alive! [21:18:44] * Mike_K has quit (Connection closed)
22:20 <@efneTI86> (Plus 4 more matches: http://tcpa.aardy.net/quotes/?filter=34&channel=tcpa&search=search)
22:20 <@E-J> !qsay 34
22:20 <@efneTI86> Couldn't find quote 34
22:20 < JoeYoung> well shit
22:21 < JoeYoung> I recall older quotes were deleted recently.
22:21 < JoeYoung> not all of them, but some of them, for some reason.
22:21 <@E-J> !qfind '/b'
22:21 <@efneTI86> No matches
22:21 <@E-J> !qfind b 34
22:21 <@efneTI86> No matches
22:21 <@E-J> ah
22:21 < JoeYoung> !qfind b
22:21 <@efneTI86> 810:sjrberg: <Dilbert> These are huge rats | <Dilbert> the size of dogs | <+DSP_sleep> mexican sewer rats | <+DSP_sleep> a.k.a. chihuahuas
22:21 <@efneTI86> 881:sjrberg: *** mokomull has joined #tcpa | <Andy_J> mokomull, you have been poked. | has left IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) | <sjrberg> YOU KILLED HIM!
22:21 <@efneTI86> 662:KevinJB: <Seth_F> Teal'C: "In my culture, I would be well within my rights to dismember you." | <aardvarq> Teal'C is Iraqi?
22:21 <@efneTI86> (Plus 823 more matches: http://tcpa.aardy.net/quotes/?filter=b&channel=tcpa&search=search)
22:22 <@E-J> how nice
22:22 < JoeYoung> ehh... ^^'
22:22 < asmand> evening
22:22 < asmand> time to go to bed
22:22 < asmand> was going to pay a bill, but can't find it
22:22 <@E-J> asmand: so you came to irc?
22:22 < asmand> well, I'm sure that they will send a new one soon :P
22:23 < JoeYoung> So we can pay his bill, obviously.
22:23 < asmand> heh, I remember many years ago when someone suggested that the TI community would buy me a new computer :D
22:24 < asmand> but I'm not expecting you to pay the daycare bill  :P
22:25 < JoeYoung> So, if you don't pay the daycare bill, do they get to keep the kid as compensation?
22:25 <@E-J> i need to go to 'A' door of this building (what is 'rappu' in english, asmand do you know) to put some "packet arrived to post office" card that was miscarried to me
22:25 <@E-J> I live in 'D'
22:26 < asmand> hmmm... I wonder what the correct terminology is
22:27 < KermM> O_O
22:27 < KermM> the second part we call a Delivery Notification
22:28 < KermM> dunno the first part though
22:28 <@E-J> KermM: what is called that letter between street number and house number that shows in which part of building you live
22:29 < KermM> apartment?
22:29 <@E-J> "staircase letter"
22:29 < KermM> as in there are three families living in a house
22:29 < Dan_E> We generally do it by floor, not by staircase.
22:29 < KermM> and you specify each one?
22:29 <@chronomex> !q
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22:29 <@E-J> KermM: well between street number and appartment number
22:30 <@chronomex> we don't have that here
22:30 <@chronomex> it's just apartment number
22:30 < KermM> E-J, we don't have that
22:30 <@chronomex> often the apartment number starts with the floor number and is in some sort of logical pattern inside the floor
22:30 <@E-J> like i live revontulentie 3 _D_ 47 (aurora borealis street 3 D 47)
22:30 < KermM> unless it's an office, in which case we specify floor number and room number
22:30 < Dan_E> Well, at college I lived in "Taylor House", so you had to specific the street number, the house name, and then the apartment number.
22:31 <@E-J> when i lived in campus area it was jämeräntaival 11 K 224
22:31 < asmand> there, I found the comment, it's from June 1st 2001
22:31 < Dan_E> But otherwise, it's done by floors here.
22:31 < asmand> "heh. 
22:31 < asmand> <gossip>Andreas Finne uses a 486 33MHz</gossip> 
22:31 < asmand> Maybe we should organize a collection for money to get him a decent machine :) "
22:32 < asmand> it was regarding the level editor for Balloon that fails on faster systems
22:32 <@E-J> here it is translated by 'side' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uusi_Ylioppilastalo
22:33 < Dan_E> I had a 486 33Mhz, until I got the pentium overdrive chip, and then it was 83 mhz or something like that.
22:33 < JoeYoung> http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs32/f/2008/217/9/5/The_World_Ends_With_Pooh_by_Mr_Oogie_Boogie.jpg
22:34 < Dan_E> E-J: Yeah, it's usually not specified explicitly here.  The room/apartment numbers are often organized to reflect location though.
22:34 < Dan_E> I was in a building the other day where all the even numbers were on the south side, and the odd numbers on the north side, for instance.
22:34 <@E-J> :)
22:34 < asmand> for instance in the house I live in.. there are about 80 apartments
22:35 <+ports-> thats not a house
22:35 <+ports-> its an apartment building
22:35 <@E-J> here it goes so that first number is in side/block A and last in D
22:35 < asmand> split up in 7 or 8 "stairs"
22:35 < asmand> ports-: right you are, s/house/building/ in my previous statement
22:35 < asmand> should really sleep
22:35 <+ports-> lol ok
22:36 <+ports-> i think my apartment building has 60 apartments
22:36 < Dan_E> Mine has 12.
22:36 <+ports-> maybe a few less.. if theres like a maintenance room
22:36 <@E-J> asmand: i have heard that in kaivoksela there are 'stairs' from A to Ö or something like that
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22:37 < Dan_E> E-J: So can you walk only to units in your same "stair"?
22:38 < Dan_E> Or do the hallways connect between all the stairs?
22:38 < asmand> no connection
22:38 < asmand> you have to go outside
22:38 <@E-J> Dan_E: here is connection only through cellar
22:38 <+krisk> http://smilepanic.com/images/stories/2009_nov_27/16/20.jpg
22:38 < asmand> and then a short distance along the street
22:38 <@E-J> but you need the key to cellar as well
22:38 < Dan_E> Ah, so that's why we don't have them here.  Generally our floors are fully connected on each level.
22:39 < asmand> -> sleep
22:39 <@chronomex> oh so they're like different buildings
22:39 < asmand> nope
22:41 < Dan_E> Sounds like they're different wings of the same building, that just aren't connected on each level.
22:41 < Dan_E> Actually, come to think of it, "wing" is probably the best English I can think of for that.
22:42 < asmand> sounds good
22:42 <@E-J> Dan_E: it looks like this http://www.bing.com/maps/default.aspx?v=2&cp=v0vzzjk20pfw&scene=11652005&lvl=2&sty=b
22:43 <@E-J> every 'stair' has its own door
22:43 < asmand> like this one for instance http://img.cromet.fi/itemimages/realty/original/209.12610/141_1305770_img102945.jpg
22:43 <@E-J> asmand
22:43 <@E-J> s picture is little better
22:44 < asmand> in the photo I linked, you (probably) have the address Somestreet 5 A1
22:44 < Dan_E> Yeah, we would probably call them separate "buildings", even though they're the physically right next to each other.
22:44 < asmand> or then Somestreet 5 B10
22:45 <@E-J> i just wanted to show beautiful sites around my home :) actually there is 2 meter high snowfrift about there where those red and white car are
22:45 < Dan_E> Yeah, 243 Some Street Building B #10
22:45 < Dan_E> Or 5 Some Street Building B #10 I suppose.
22:47 < Dan_E> But, especially in newer cities, they might each have their own street address.
22:47 <@chronomex> Dan_E: we might call them "tower A" and "tower B" for example
22:47 <@E-J> americans and their weird ways of using every thing which has numbers in them
22:48 <@chronomex> pfft, our system makes sense!
22:48 <@E-J> like date
22:48 <@chronomex> yeah well americans do dates wrong
22:48 <@E-J> 10/12/10
22:48 <@chronomex> 2010-01-31.
22:48 <@E-J> for me that looks like 10th of december
22:48 < Dan_E> I usually just write Jan 31, 2010 so there
22:48 < Dan_E> 's no confusion.
22:49 <@E-J> well in bigger numbers there isn't confusions
22:49 < Dan_E> Yes, but today is Jan 31st, so I used that as the example :)
22:49 <@E-J> but like now it is 1.2.2010 written how finns it do
22:50 <@E-J> day changed here 50 minutes ago
22:50 <@chronomex> I write them year-month-day so they sort properly
22:50 < Jonimus> lol nice chronomex 
22:50 < Dan_E> chronomex: Using 01 instead of just 1?
22:51 <@chronomex> always.
22:51 < Jonimus> chronomex: did you get my links earlier?
22:51 < Dan_E> Too hard to read for me.  I don't like leading zeros.
22:51 <@E-J> when sorting i also do yyyy-mm-dd but when writing real things it is (d)d.(m)m.yyyy
22:51 <@chronomex> Jonimus: maybe, what channel?
22:52 < Jonimus> #ti
22:52 <@chronomex> no but I see it now
22:57 < Dan_E> I don't suppose we have any math teachers in here, do we?
22:58 <+ports-> ?
22:59 <@BrandonW> You might have a shot at it in #ti.
22:59 < Dan_E> Are the same people not here and there more or less?
23:00 < Dan_E> I just need to find a moderately technologically savvy math teacher who wants to do some software testing.  Sadly most of the teachers I manage are not so tech-savvy.
23:01 <@BrandonW> More or less are the key words.
23:01 < Dan_E> I see.  Well I'll follow the rules and not spam #ti, because it's not really calculator related.
23:02 < Jonimus> Dan_E: well what is the software for, I am going to have to do some math tutoring for one of my classes so I soft of apply
23:03 < Dan_E> It's for generating tests and worksheets.
23:03 <@E-J> wasn't tahben teacher in some part of her life?
23:03 < Jonimus> oh nice
23:04 < Dan_E> Jonimus: http://www.teacheasier.com
23:04 < Jonimus> Dan_E: did you make that?
23:05 < Dan_E> Yes.
23:05 < Dan_E> Still working on it, but getting close to the point where I need some testing.
23:05 < Jonimus> it looks very well done, and pretty user friendly
23:06 <@BrandonW> That looks a million times better than the last time I saw it.
23:06 < Dan_E> Brandon: Yeah, I decided it was time to make the interface suck a little less.
23:07 <+ports-> Dan_E, thats really nice dude
23:07 <@E-J> Dan_E: can i paste that to #other_channel, i know one teacher who teaches classes 1 to 6 (ages 7 to 13)
23:07 < Dan_E> ports: Thanks.
23:08 < Dan_E> E-J: Sure.
23:09 <@E-J> though that's in english, so there is minor disadvandage for her
23:11 < Dan_E> Yes, my Finnish is fairly rusty.
23:12 <@E-J> well, maybe it will be translated in future
23:13 <@E-J> if and when it will be success
23:14 < Dan_E> Only time will tell.  
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23:21 < efneTI92> [KermEEE] http://www.cemetech.net :: Leading The Way to the Future
23:30 <@E-J> http://vimeo.com/3156959
23:34 < JoeYoung> you know, I remember how the trial for the owners of TPB was like a big deal way back when.
23:34 < JoeYoung> People were determined to shut that site down, yet here we are and it's still pretty damn active.
23:35 <@E-J> their tracker has died iirc
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23:36 < Goplat> it's still up, I used a TPB torrent yesterday
23:38 < j-b-r> I haven't used it in a while because I know better now
23:38 <@chronomex> Goplat: they serve up DHT only
23:38 <@chronomex> iirc
23:38 < j-b-r> But yeah, I was all upset when I thought it was going down for good, and went around begging for a demonoid invite etc. 
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23:44 < Genolo> http://zs1.smbc-comics.com/comics/20100128.gif
23:44 < Genolo> so true
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23:58 < Jonimus> Genolo: well in college it does actually get harder as if you fail you have to pay to retake the class
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