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00:03 <@BrandonW> Ms. Brant! That's not the position I hired you for!
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00:08 < Doookie> hey
00:08 < Doookie> is their something similiar to omnicalc for the ti-89?
00:08 < Doookie> i really liked the () assistant
00:08 < Doookie> any ideas?
00:09 < bsparks> Try asking in #ti? :)
00:10 < Doookie> thans
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00:41 < i_c-Y> Doookie: i think kevin kofler has something on his website.
00:43 < i_c-Y> http://www.tigen.org/kevin.kofler/
01:01 < Randomist> Doookie:  FLib?
01:13 <+ports-> omg
01:14 <+ports-> im ordreing an apple pad
01:14 < bsparks> go troll people who give half a damn
01:14 <+ports-> bsparks, ill troll your face. i was serious
01:15 < bsparks> Right. Anyway. Who here has serious conversation of actual importance?
01:17 < Randomist> Always a good thing to wait a while before running out to buy new things.  :P
01:17 < Randomist> Gives them a chance to work out unforseen kinks and maybe get the price down a little.
01:17 <+ports-> Randomist, i dunno.. i was hoping the thing would run the desktop version of osx. i might wait for the HP Slate
01:19 <+ports-> ive been busy all day.. im just now reading the specs
01:24 <+ports-> i dont think id rather use a giant iphone
01:25 <@chronomex> a few years ago some friends and I went to an apple store while we were drinking
01:25 <@chronomex> they had plasma tvs disguised as iphones in the window
01:25 <@chronomex> so we tried to use them
01:25 <@chronomex> didn't work :(
01:25 <+ports-> lol yeah
01:25 <@chronomex> also I saw one downtown with the osx dock popped-up over the video
01:26 <@chronomex> it was lulz
01:28 <+ports-> i dunno.. i hardly use my laptop now...  a tablet pc would be nice
01:30 < Randomist> I have a shell function "cd()" that I wish to replace the built-in `cd` with to `ls -l` after entering a directory.
01:30 < bsparks> Honestly, I'd get just that, a tablet PC... like a ModBook
01:30 < Randomist> How do I tell the shell to use the built-in `cd`, though, from the function?
01:35 <@nikky> WHOOHOOO STATE OF THE UNION
01:35 <@nikky> WHOOHOOO STATE OF THE UNION
01:35 <@nikky> WHOOOOOOOOOOO
01:35 <@chronomex> we should drink and watch, nikky
01:35 <@chronomex> I have booze
01:35 <@chronomex> also obligations
01:35 <@nikky> Can't drink while watching!
01:35 <@chronomex> why not?
01:36 <@nikky> Must pay full attention!
01:36 <@chronomex> can't have a SOTU drinking game?
01:36 <@chronomex> you're no fun
01:36 <@nikky> sry
01:36 <@nikky> THIS IS MY LIFE
01:36 <+ports-> chronomex, ill drink with you
01:37 <+ports-> chronomex, take a shot every time he says "Change" ?
01:37 <@chronomex> hahhaha
01:37 <@chronomex> too easy
01:37 <+ports-> shot... shot.. shot... shot. .... shots!
02:04 <@nikky> pres is late
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02:31 < Spengo> I'm confused
02:31 < Spengo> so he's making banks pay the government back for the bailout while at the same time giving them money to finance small businesses
02:31 <@nikky> yes
02:31 <@nikky> well, loaning them money
02:33 < Spengo> NOOOO BUFFERING
02:33 < Spengo> youtube has failed me
02:34 <@nikky> ?
02:34 < Spengo> http://www.youtube.com/citizentube?feature=ticker
02:34 <@nikky> the speech is on youtube?
02:34 < Spengo> yep, live even
02:34 <@nikky> cnn has a pertty good live feed
02:35 < Spengo> well it's working now again
02:35 <+Genolo> what is one of those things
02:35 <+Genolo> where you go online
02:35 <+Genolo> and edit text with other people
02:35 <+Genolo> like moonedit
02:35 < Spengo> YES
02:35 < Spengo> NUCLEAR POWER
02:35 <+Genolo> but not software
02:35 <@nikky> what
02:35 <@nikky> oil and gas?
02:35 <@nikky> CLEAN COAL?????
02:36 <@nikky> Nuclear power is good
02:36 <@nikky> but...
02:36 < Spengo> what's clean coal
02:36 <@nikky> CLEAN COAL?????
02:36 <@nikky> WHAT THE HELL
02:36 < Spengo> lulz
02:36 <+Genolo> no one knows of any?
02:36 <@nikky> hahahahahahah
02:36 < Spengo> I know how to solve world hunger
02:36 < Spengo> soylent green :D
02:38 < Spengo> does he plan on reducing tariffs or something?
02:38 < Spengo> that would be good
02:38 <@nikky> reform export controls consistent with national security?
02:38 <@nikky> what the hell does that mean
02:38 <@nikky> "We still won't trade with Cuba?"
02:40 < Barrett__> not export anything that uses encryption?
02:41 <@nikky> pft
02:41 <@nikky> community colleges
02:41 < Spengo> OH AWESOME 
02:41 < Spengo> COMMUNITY COLLEGES
02:41 < Spengo> WE'RE ALL SAVED
02:41 <@nikky> We all know universities is where it's at
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02:41 <@nikky> actually, community colleges are a good idea...
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02:45 < Spengo> I know how to combat child obesity
02:46 < Spengo> WII FIT AND DDR
02:46 <@nikky> ban candybars?
02:46 < Spengo> lul
02:46 < _Digital> you fix childhood obesity by being a decent parent
02:46 < Spengo> it's a joke :V
02:46 <@nikky> I like how the Supreme Court and Join Chiefs never clap for policy
02:46 < Randomist> Internet is serious business.
02:46 <@nikky> *except* when the pesident mentions trolls
02:46 <@nikky> troops
02:47 <@nikky> then the joint chiefs may applad
02:47 < Spengo> haha yeah I noticed the joint chiefs weren't ever clapping
02:47 <@nikky> they won't
02:47 < Spengo> so
02:48 < Spengo> when is he going to get done with this politics nonsense and tell us about the stargate program :V
02:48 <@nikky> BETTER BE SOON
02:48 < _Digital> lol
02:48 <@nikky> did you notice the romulan?
02:48 < Spengo> lol where
02:48 <@nikky> There's a representative who has short black romulan hair
02:48 <@nikky> pointy ears
02:48 < Spengo> lul
02:48 <@nikky> and wearing a kind of a brown romulan outfit
02:49 < _Digital> is there a light that goes on that says stand for applause?
02:49 <@nikky> Yes
02:49 < _Digital> and then turns off?
02:49 <@nikky> It's called "When the speaker and VP clap"
02:49 < _Digital> idiocy
02:49 <@nikky> if you watch... the republicans won't clap often
02:49 < _Digital> I just turned it on
02:50 <@_Auron_> lol
02:50 <@_Auron_> my sister has it on now
02:50 < Spengo> heh
02:50 < Spengo> now he's gone into NOT MY FAULT mode
02:51 <@nikky> ISN'T HIS FAULT SPENGO
02:51 <@nikky> I'm waiting for his "ban all guns" part
02:52 <@nikky> national security is discretionary...
02:52 < _Digital> so the freeze is goign to go on into 2 years of teh next term whether it is his or not
02:52 <@nikky> ?
02:53 < Spengo> does he have like, 2 tv prompts that he keeps switching looking at
02:53 <@nikky> yes
02:53 < _Digital> he said 3 year freeze starting in 2011
02:53 < _Digital> on spending that is
02:54 <@nikky> YEAH
02:54 < Spengo> _Digital, I'll believe it when I see it
02:54 < Jonimus> same here
02:55 < Spengo> the government? not waste billions of dollars every day? next you'll be telling me duke nukem forever is coming out
02:55 <@nikky> trol
02:55 < Jonimus> nikky: I'd say the same if it weren't so true
02:56 < _Digital> entering politics part of speech again...
02:56 < Spengo> ...
02:56 < Spengo> haha oh wow
02:57 <@nikky> YEAH
02:57 <@nikky> SCREW YOU SUPREME COURT
02:58 <@nikky> Ginsburg is like
02:58 <@nikky> "fuck that shit"
02:59 < Spengo> restoring the public trust xD that's a good one
02:59 < Spengo> cool story bro
03:00 < Jonimus> Didn't the first recovery.gov prove that they have no clue what transparency is? I mean Recovery.org had more info than it did, and it wasn't government run.
03:01 < Jonimus> him getting public trust is a joke at this point IMO
03:01 < _Digital> NEVER GIVE UP! NEVER SURRENDER!
03:02 <@nikky> ooo
03:02 <@nikky> THem's fightin' words
03:04 <@nikky> ohay
03:04 <@nikky> no more economy talk
03:04 < Spengo> yeah well... they're not getting my trust until I can buy C4 at home depot
03:04 <@nikky> haha
03:04 <@nikky> and you should be able to
03:04 < Jonimus> lol
03:04 < Jonimus> nice Spengo 
03:04 < Spengo> nikky, let me guess, ban the detonators :P
03:04 <@nikky> yes
03:05 < Spengo> lul
03:05 < Spengo> good thing it's not hard to make my own :D
03:05 < _Digital> affiliates <-- is terrorism a business?
03:05 <@nikky> yes
03:06 <@nikky> UHOH
03:06 <@nikky> A DEADLINE
03:06 < Spengo> lol
03:06 < Spengo> we're buggin' out
03:07 <@nikky> see, the joint chiefs just take it
03:07 < Jonimus> That's not gonna happen, has he ever met a deadline?
03:07 <@nikky> They know who their leader is
03:07 < _Digital> nikky, another one!
03:07 < Spengo> awwrite, fuck iraq, let them collapse what do we care
03:07 < Spengo> wasting our money and people
03:09 < _Digital> seeks a world without
03:09 < _Digital> nukes are never leaving
03:09 < Spengo> what we really need
03:09 < _Digital> that notion is just absurd
03:09 < Spengo> is not less nukes
03:09 <@nikky> shush
03:09 < Spengo> but less nukes on ICBMs
03:09 < Spengo> and more nukes on inter-planetary rockets
03:09 < _Digital> lol
03:09 < Jonimus> Spengo++
03:10 < Spengo> what happens when aliens invade and all we have are these gay rockets that can barely make it to low orbit
03:10 <@nikky> I like Biden's tie
03:10 < _Digital> you still cannot date him
03:11 < _Digital> innovator to save the earth?
03:11 < _Digital> hell, get more hybrids in here dammit
03:11 < _Digital> it should't have taken so long
03:11 <@nikky> ohtheirway
03:11 < _Digital> though I'd like to see a diesel hybrid
03:11 < _Digital> fucking 70mpg
03:12 < Spengo> cheaper hybrids is the only way to make them more popular
03:12 < Spengo> and give them more power
03:12 <@nikky> no
03:12 < Spengo> priuses can barely make it up the hills in oregon
03:12 <@nikky> suck it
03:12 <@nikky> hater
03:12 < _Digital> I get better economy than a pirus
03:12 < _Digital> make them diesel and we'll be good
03:13 < _Digital> torque++
03:15 < Spengo> http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/1159/goauld.jpg oh crap, goaulds irl D:
03:16 < _Digital> wtf?
03:16 < _Digital> I cann CG
03:16 < _Digital> call*
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03:18 < Spengo> how long is this speech going to be anyway
03:19 <@nikky> about done
03:19 < Spengo> it's been an hour and 20 minutes already
03:19 < Spengo> well.. minus the 6 minutes late I guess
03:19 <@nikky> they're generally 80 minutes or so
03:20 < Spengo> yay
03:20 <@nikky> phew
03:20 <@nikky> I always get nervous about those
03:21 < Spengo> why? they are usually pretty boring
03:21 <@nikky> perfect place for a terrorist attack
03:21 <@nikky> joint chiefs, congress, president, cabinet (-1), SCOTUS
03:21 < Spengo> I'm sure it's very well guarded
03:21 <@nikky> yes
03:21 < Spengo> and indoors too
03:21 <@nikky> the roof is crawling with missiles
03:22 <@nikky> SS guys are so twitchy
03:23 <@nikky> Of course, their job description is pretty simple
03:24 <@nikky> Lefties... what champs
03:24 < Spengo> well
03:24 < Spengo> I'm going to go be patriotic and buy a burger
03:24 < Spengo> I'm hungry
03:24 <@nikky> kk
03:24 < Spengo> hopefully burgerville still has those portabello fries
03:24 <@nikky> I made garlic fries
03:25 < Spengo> sounds good
03:25 < Spengo> anyway brb
03:25 <@nikky> bai
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03:25 <@nikky> psh
03:25 <@nikky> republican response
03:25 <@nikky> who watches those
03:26 <@nikky> Oh hey
03:26 <@nikky> Guess who one of the cabinet members missing was
03:26 <@nikky> Hillary
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04:17 <+Genolo> i love having all the clocks in my room 3 hours ahead
04:18 <+Genolo> it helps with procrastination
04:18 <+Genolo> i'm like
04:18 <+Genolo> "oh shit it's 2 am time to start my homework"
04:18 <+Genolo> then i finish and realize it's 11pm
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04:25 <+jr19> that's a ridiculous idea
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04:27 <+jr19> you know in your head that it's not 2am
04:27 <+Genolo> no, i don't
04:27 <+Genolo> i always forget that the clocks are off
04:30 < bsparks> I used to set all my clocks 10 minutes ahead
04:30 < bsparks> I was never late to work :)
04:30 < JoeYoung> shit, real life is complicated x.x
04:30 <@BrandonW> What makes you say that?
04:30 < bsparks> JoeYoung, damn spiffy
04:31 < JoeYoung> I'm looking at all this prepatory stuff I need to do before I start attending UTD
04:31 < JoeYoung> It's... err.... a LOT of stuff.
04:33 < Jonimus>  10
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04:35 < Jonimus> whoops..
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05:26 < mtgrss111> zomg blast from the past.
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05:43 < JoeYoung> This "askvg" site is great.
05:43 < JoeYoung> Thanks to this guy I think I can comfortably switch back from the Win7 rc to Vista.
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05:43 < JoeYoung> at least temporarily.
05:44 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Netham47] by efneTI86
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05:44 < JoeYoung> I'm not looking forward to modifying my application settings all over again, but what can you do?
05:45 < i_c-Y> buy windows 7?
05:46 < JoeYoung> Yeah.... no.
05:46 < JoeYoung> I wouldn't waste it on this machine.
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05:46 < JoeYoung> I hope to retire it by the end of the school year, maybe clean it up and pass it to my sis when I get a new one.
05:47 < JoeYoung> It's fully functional, just really old.
05:48 < JoeYoung> I forgot how good Arial Unicode looked in Xchat.
05:54 < JoeYoung> Ok
05:55 < JoeYoung> This question sounds dumb, even to me, but...
05:55 < JoeYoung> Can you "un-partition" a hard drive without having to format the whole thing?
05:55 <+Genolo> delete the partition
05:56 < JoeYoung> You sure that's all it'll take?
05:56 < JoeYoung> If it is, I'm relieved.
05:56 <+Genolo> i've done it before
05:56 < JoeYoung> sweet.
05:57 < JoeYoung> Thanks, man.
05:57 <+Genolo> this harddrive i deleted partitions and moved around 200GB of data
05:57 <+Genolo> it was a pretty messy table when i got it
05:57 <+Genolo> still is
05:57 <+Genolo> well not really
05:57 <+Genolo> i have the windows 7 boot, windows 7 main, and an extended with linux
05:57 < JoeYoung> I have Windows Vista and Win7 rc on the partition.
05:58 < JoeYoung> Win7 rc was installed when I was still experimenting with it, so I only allocated about 20 gigs
05:59 <+Genolo> i used windows 7 rc
05:59 <+Genolo> on my old laptop i went from
05:59 < JoeYoung> heh, everytime I do something like this I keep freaking out mentally, wondering if I'm gonna end up breaking it this time ^^
05:59 <+Genolo> vista->ubuntu->windows7 rc->arch
06:00 <+Genolo> this laptop came with windows 7 which is still on it
06:00 <+Genolo> and i'm on arch right now
06:00 < JoeYoung> wtf where did all this music come from?
06:00 < JoeYoung> some of this is certainly not mine o.O
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06:29 <@E-J> http://www.iltasanomat.fi/videot/urheilu/1892486
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06:33 < JoeYoung> that right there was me being a magnificent dumbass and accidentally deleting my wireless drivers XD
06:34 < JoeYoung> I'm not sure how I managed that, to be honest.
06:34 < asmand> pro tip: if you have a home server, don't disable the network card
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06:57 <@E-J> http://www.exitmundi.nl/
07:04 <@E-J> tr1p1ea: http://www.somebodythinkofthechildren.com/australia-bans-small-breasts/
07:06 <+Genolo> wat
07:07 <+Genolo> so the autrallian government only likes women with big boobs?
07:08 <@_Auron_> "Even if you are 18 years old but you look younger, taking a photograph of your breasts and uploading it to the Internet could land you or someone you know in serious trouble."
07:09 <+Genolo> >or someone you know
07:09 <+Genolo> what
07:09 <+Genolo> why
07:09 <@_Auron_> nfi
07:09 <@_Auron_> completely stupid
07:09 <+Genolo> "you uploaded pics of your self i'm arresting your mom"
07:10 <@chronomex> hahaha
07:10 <@chronomex> for the genetics you know
07:10 <+Genolo> governments these days and their strange fetishes
07:11 <@E-J> yeah, (little rasistic joke) white house has turned itself to black barrack
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07:17 <+Genolo> has anyone read macbeth
07:17 <@E-J> bsparks, sir_lewk: http://i45.tinypic.com/2mcdrg2.jpg
07:17 <+Genolo> was it banquo who was told he would be the father of kings
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07:28  * _Digital looks back in
07:28 < _Digital> good, politics discussion is over
07:29 < _Digital> then again most everyone is asleep
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07:30 <@chronomex> pfeh, it's not midnight yet
07:31 <+Genolo> i got a 66 on my spanish mid year exam
07:31 <+Genolo> that's with the five point curve
07:31 <+Genolo> i passed anyway
07:31 <+Genolo> the highest grade in the class was a 78
07:32 < _Digital> fail
07:32 <+Genolo> i did rather well
07:32 <+Genolo> if the highest grade was a 78
07:32 < _Digital> no, your class fails
07:33 < _Digital> not even 80%
07:33 <+Genolo> it's not my class
07:33 <+Genolo> the teacher posted the real exam online by accident
07:33 <+Genolo> which makes no fucking sense
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07:33 <+Genolo> so he changed it at the last minute
07:33 <+Genolo> to stuff he didn't tell us to study
07:33 <+Genolo> how the fuck do you put a test online
07:33 < _Digital> heh
07:34 <+Genolo> "oops i uploaded the test online"
07:34 < i_c-Y> so you didn't know the material you were supposed to know, even though its material that you should have seen
07:34 < _Digital> ^
07:34 < i_c-Y> just because someone tells you x is going to be on a test doesnt mean y won't be on the test.
07:34 <+Genolo> i didn't study anyway
07:34 < _Digital> schools these days operate on handouts
07:34 <+Genolo> but the questions were a lot harder then the would have been
07:34 < _Digital> ...
07:35 <@_Auron_> ....
07:35 < i_c-Y> schools these days are turning out a bunch of pansies.
07:35 < _Digital> why did I hit enter and make two lines?
07:35 < _Digital> w/e
07:35 <@_Auron_> lol
07:35 < _Digital> waiting at Jack-n-the-Box for a teriyaki bowl...
07:35 <+Genolo> would it be against school rules to slide down the railigns
07:35 <+Genolo> railings*
07:36 < _Digital> phones + ssh = win
07:36 <+Genolo> let me tell you it's a lot more convenient then walking down them
07:36 < _Digital> Genolo: usually they get mad
07:36 <+Genolo> still
07:36 <+Genolo> they don't think anyone is stupid enough
07:36 <+Genolo> so it isn't specifically against the rules
07:37 <+Genolo> my friend pushed me off them the other day
07:37 < _Digital> nothing is fool-proof to a suficiently talented fool
07:37 <+Genolo> it was rather painful
07:37 < _Digital> yet you call him friend
07:37 <+Genolo> :P
07:38 <+Genolo> there was this one time
07:38 <+Genolo> the railings were fucking greased
07:38 <+Genolo> and i went flying in the vent at the bottom
07:38 < _Digital> skateboards
07:38 <+Genolo> how do you skateboard inside of a school
07:38 < _Digital> brake into it
07:38 < _Digital> depends on the school
07:39 < _Digital> some are entire enclosed
07:39 < _Digital> some are just buildings with lot and lots of open space outside
07:40 <+Genolo> mine is really new
07:40 <+Genolo> like four years olf
07:40 <+Genolo> old*
07:40 <+Genolo> three floors
07:41 <+Genolo> enclosed courtyard where you can eat lunch
07:42 <+Genolo> i don't like how my school does absences
07:42 <+Genolo> each class missed counts as one
07:42 <+Genolo> i have 80 and only half the year is over
07:42 <+Genolo> :|
07:45 < _Digital> you fail
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08:19 < Randomist> That's paraphrased.  But someone seriously asked that.
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09:49 <@E-J> bsparks: better stone compare http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/7930/stonevsipad.jpg
09:49 < _Digital> rosetta vs apple
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09:56 <@E-J> http://gizmodo.com/5458382/8-things-that-suck-about-the-ipad?skyline=true&s=i
10:07 <@E-J> http://www.hs.fi/english/article/Cold+weather+causes+Russian+visitors+to+Finland+to+seek+visa+extensions+as+their+cars+refuse+to+start/1135252416377
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11:54 < tr1p1ea> what a shot by andy murray!
12:10 <@BrandonW> The iPad totally sucks.
12:11 <@BrandonW> Discuss.
12:15 < leofox> agree
12:15 < leofox> apple is for tards
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12:40 <@E-J> http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE60R2U020100128
12:56 < tr1p1ea> how exactly is the ipad not running a multitasking os?
12:57 < tr1p1ea> complaining about no hdmi is silly
12:57 < tr1p1ea> the last few points are 'ive run out of ideas points'
12:57 <@BrandonW> People are stupid.
12:57 <@BrandonW> I despise Apple and this thing sucks.
12:57 <@BrandonW> I'll wait for another tablet.
12:57 < tr1p1ea> It doesnt look like their team had much of a budget
12:59 < tr1p1ea> imo apple havent made anything appealing to me in over 2 decades
13:00 < tr1p1ea> IIe was the last decent thing they made
13:01 <@BrandonW> I believed the iPhone and iPod Touch were revolutionary at the time, but there's just no point to this thing.
13:05 < tr1p1ea> does it at least have a usb (flavoured) port?
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13:19 < bsparks> It occurred to me, sadly, that I very well may be part of the target market for the iPad :/
13:20 < bsparks> Probably because of the phrase "I wish my iPod was _______"
13:21 < bsparks> or just "I wish my iPod ______"
13:22 <@BrandonW> I suspect that Apple's target audience is...everyone.
13:23 <@BrandonW> I wish my iPod showed up as a mass storage device.
13:23 < bsparks> I don't. I think their audience is everyone we aren't
13:23 <@BrandonW> I also want it to fit in my pocket.
13:24 <@BrandonW> Meaning morons?
13:24 < bsparks> Pretty much. Or just people who aren't tech savvy.
13:24 < bsparks> My aunt wants one, because around march she'll be bed-ridden for close to 2 months after a surgery. And can't read books on her iPod Touch
13:25 < bsparks> So she is part of the target market. Bearing in mind, she only own an iPod Touch, and a computer from 1999 >_>
13:26 < bsparks> I think apple's target market is everyone who is looking at e-readers seriously, but also considering netbooks because they may want to do a little more. And hell, even the people that sit at their computer _just_ to play stupid internet games [ most of which have made the transition to the iPhone OS pretty well ]
13:26 <@BrandonW> I could see myself using it to watch TV or movies in an unusual part of the house.
13:26 <@BrandonW> Times where I wish I could just take my LCD and put it in my lap.
13:27 <@BrandonW> But no memory expansion?
13:27 <@BrandonW> Every device in the free world has an SD card slot.
13:28 < bsparks> I want one just because I have tried reading books on my iPod, and it's abysmal. And there are times where just like you, I want an LCD in my lap for TV or Movies. And while my iPod covers that, it's too small most of the time. And no apparently 16gb is the defacto standard for a streaming device. [ well, 16 and up ]
13:29 <@BrandonW> I know that it would NEVER leave my apartment, so 3G is useless.
13:29 <@BrandonW> I'd use the wifi for streaming and other stuff and that's about it.
13:29 <@BrandonW> I consider it a giant control panel for controlling things in the house, or possibly watching video.
13:29 <@BrandonW> That's it.
13:30 < bsparks> Pretty much, yeah. I think the 3G model will only benefit people who lack wifi in there house. 
13:30 <@BrandonW> It'll definitely have its uses, but your average joe, I don't know.
13:32 < bsparks> I think it's just like the original iPod launch. And the original iPhone launch. If you remember all the people saying "but it _doesn't_ do xyz" I mean, even at launch people were bragging how their phones were better than the iPhone, and how their media players were better than iPods. And a lot of them haven't switched. Because apple couldn't care less :p
13:32 < bsparks> I think the average joe, who likes computers, and has $500 to drop, will be all over this. It's people who know better that will be leary.
13:35 < bsparks> it would make a very nice large multi-touch control panel for any computer imo. With the proper cradle
13:36 <@BrandonW> That's all I'd use it for, a Star Trek PADD.
13:37 < bsparks> I might use the brushes app a lot, it looks like it'd turn the iPad into a Cintiq [ sp? ] but cheaper
13:39 <@BrandonW> I've wanted a tablet PC for so many years now, but I don't think this is it.
13:40 < bsparks> Compared to the other tablet PCs I have used, with a quick jailbreak, this is the tablet I have wanted :/
13:40 < bsparks> most tablet pc experinces I have had _suck_
13:42 <@BrandonW> I think it's a step in the right direction technology-wise.
13:42 <@BrandonW> But this isn't the be-all end-all solution.
13:42 < bsparks> Hell no
13:43 < bsparks> That's what they have revisions for
13:50 < LordMathi> i still don't really see what the big fuss over tablets is.
13:51 <@Andy_J> laptops are awkward if you don't have a good place to put them
13:51 < bsparks> ^
13:51 < bsparks> That's why I <3 my iPod Touch... I just wish it had a larger screen
13:51 <@Andy_J> tablets are awkward if you do
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13:51 <@Andy_J> therefore, convertible plox
13:52 <@Andy_J> MacTouch Air plz
13:52 < bsparks> Andy_J, that is the dumbest name ever
13:52 <@Andy_J> not as dumb as iPad.
13:52 < bsparks> "mactouch air"?
13:53 < bsparks> sounds like you're describing what your computer does, in retardese
13:53 < bsparks> almost as bad as iTouch ;)
13:53 < bsparks> aanywhoozle, work, etc
14:08 <@E-J> iPaddle
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15:49 <@E-J> http://www.aftonbladet.se/webbtv/nyheter/utrikes/article6501505.ab
15:49 <@E-J> check video, i assume in speech part they only tell what happened
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16:10 <@E-J> 1 injured (that one who freezes), those 2 who got away were unharmed
16:25 < Randomist> Whoo, Art History is canceled.  More study time for me.
16:25 <+jr19> Randomist: what are you majoring in
16:25 < Randomist> Computer Science, but they make me take an Arts.
16:26 <@E-J> isn't arts plural?
16:26 <+jr19> yeah i had to take some music or art classes
16:31 <@E-J> so glad that i'm not studying in states :)
16:33 <+jr19> so glad that i'm not studying anymore period
16:34 <@E-J> i have thesis.tex in front of me
16:40 < sir_lewk> arts is plural, but in that case it refers to a single art class
16:40 < sir_lewk> I think
16:41 < sir_lewk> *shrug*
16:44 < sir_lewk> dammit, I scared away my flame victim on slashdot :(
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16:58 < efneTI92> [KermM] http://www.cemetech.net :: Leading The Way to the Future
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17:00 < KermM> just video'd the Arduino +
17:00 < KermM> calculator + slide joystick
17:00 < KermM> the screen is a little hard to make out, but meh
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17:07 < leofox> Arduino's are cool
17:08 < KermM> they're alright, but they're way overused :P
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17:09 < leofox> I dont think that's bad
17:09 < leofox> there are tutorials for everything
17:10 < KermM> I mean overused in the sense that people learning electronics think they have to slap an Arduino into every situation
17:10 < KermM> even if a 74ls** or two plus a few resistors would do the trick
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17:32 <+krisk> woah tracking says my earphones are already in the netherlands
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17:56 <@nikky> no
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17:57 <@E-J> numero
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17:58 <@nikky> E-J!
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18:00 <@E-J> nikky!
18:06 <@E-J> what is the word for machine where you put coins and collect coke bottles etc?
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18:07 <+jr19> vending machine
18:07 <@E-J> thanks
18:07 <+jr19> :D
18:07 <@E-J> total blackout'
18:07 <+jr19> wat
18:08 <@E-J> writing thesis in english and i have some written in finnish already so i knew that word in finnish but didn't figure out english word
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18:12 <+jr19> ah i see
18:12 <+jr19> you're writing your thesis about vending machines?
18:15 <@E-J> i'm writing thesis about counterfeit coins
18:16 <@E-J> actually working title is "Automation of the investigation of the supposed counterfeit Euro-coins"
18:16 <+jr19> hmm i see
18:16 <+jr19> i didnt even know that counterfeiting coins was a real common practice
18:16 <+jr19> i figured counterfeit notes were easier to make money off of
18:17 <@E-J> one would thought so
18:17 <+jr19> i thought it used to be that if you poured a bunch of salt water into vending machines, you could get free stuff or something
18:18 <+jr19> but i'm pretty sure that's false
18:18 <@E-J> well, some people use money from different countries to get stuff cheaper
18:19 <@E-J> for example some thai money is about same size and colour that 1-euro or 2-euro
18:19 <+jr19> oh i guess it used to actually work, but it doesn't anymore
18:19 <+jr19> yeah that makes sense
18:19 <+jr19> i think they call fake coins "slugs" here in the US
18:20 < KermM> yup
18:20 <@E-J> "In all it is estimated that in Europe 1.7% of all Pound coins and 373,719 euro coins (of differing denominations) in circulation are Counterfeit"
18:22 <+krisk> lol seriously?
18:24 <@E-J> well that euro coin thing is old news, european anti-fraud office has taken away from circulation 780 000 fake eurocoins
18:24 <@E-J> so there must be more of them
18:24 <+krisk> or real ones that failed further inspection
18:25 <+jr19> hm
18:25 <@E-J> well those too and those that people have modified
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18:26 <@E-J> you can't even tell from best fakes that they are fakes
18:27 <@E-J> this one dutch 2-euro fake that i saw has that text "COD * ZIJ * MET * ONS *"
18:28 <@E-J> but how many times you look edge text
18:29 <+krisk> could just be a misprint
18:29 <+krisk> the whole idea of fake coins sounds silly to me
18:30 <@E-J> stamping machines don't do misprints :)
18:30 <+jr19> same here
18:30 <+jr19> but idk
18:30 <+krisk> youd have to make a fuckload of fake coins and then you still wouldnt be able to get anything of value with it because nobody is going to accept you buying a car with coins or something
18:31 <@E-J> yeah but you could pay with some coins there and some there
18:31 <+krisk> so much trouble when you could just mess with digital numbers
18:32 <+krisk> or at least make fake bills
18:32 < leofox> joo kirsk
18:32 <+krisk> yo sup
18:32 < leofox> boored
18:32 < leofox> learning Na'vi words
18:32 <+krisk> cool
18:32 <@E-J> krisk: making fake bills is much harder than fake coins
18:32 < leofox> but I gave up just now because I was distracted
18:33 <+krisk> what do you think i should demand as my wage for my new contract?
18:33 < leofox> full time?
18:33 < leofox> what kind of job?
18:33 <+krisk> yes
18:33 <+krisk> php
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18:33 <+krisk> i should be fully responsible for my own project soon
18:34 < leofox> h,,
18:34 < leofox> 2000/mo or something?
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18:34 <+krisk> and he said some good things about me in the year evaluation but left out all the good points we discussed from his report on that evaluation
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18:35 <+krisk> so im going to bitch about that tomorrow and demand a monthly wage i can feel motivated about
18:35 <+krisk> i was thinking something like 2200
18:41 <+krisk> according to loonwijzer.nl 2400 is average for my age and work experience
18:41 <+krisk> fuck it, ill just say that
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20:14 <@chronomex> ohai link_36p, you're in seattle area?
20:15 < link_36p> How did you know.
20:15 <@chronomex> your hostname is *.sttlwa.fios.verizon.net
20:15 < Barrett> lies
20:15 < KermM> siel
20:15 <@chronomex> but you're not in the city proper
20:15 < link_36p> Ahh what a givaway :p
20:15 <@chronomex> because there's no fios here
20:15 <@chronomex> just in outlying areas
20:15 < Barrett> lies! his hostname is pool-71-164-10-185.sttlwa.fios.verizon.net
20:15 <@chronomex> close enough
20:16 < link_36p> That seems odd. To not have fios in the biggest city in WA.
20:16 <@Andy_J> this *IS* Verizon we're talking about
20:16 < Barrett> yep, covering area is more important than covering density
20:16 < Barrett> to them
20:17 < Barrett> so their maps look good
20:17 <@chronomex> Seattle is Bell territory and Verizon out here is only in former GTE territory
20:17 < link_36p> Weird logic.
20:17 <@chronomex> there are very complicated historical reasons for it
20:17 <@chronomex> but it boils down to Seattle had phone service first
20:17 <@chronomex> so we don't have the wireline presence from the Second Phone Company
20:17 <@Andy_J> Monopolies suck.
20:17 <@chronomex> yeah
20:18 <@chronomex> so, link_36p, now I'm curious about what municipality you're in
20:18 < Barrett> I want fiber
20:18 < link_36p> I'm in everett.
20:18 <@chronomex> omnomnom fibers
20:18 <@chronomex> mm
20:18 < link_36p> Just 30 min north
20:18 <@chronomex> I've been to everett ... a few times
20:18 <@chronomex> it's sort of boring.
20:18 < link_36p> Do you go to slug?
20:18 <@chronomex> gslug?  rarely
20:19 < Barrett> link_36p, I hope you aren't a teenage boy... chronomex is... well...
20:19 <@chronomex> if you're headed there this time I might make exception
20:19 <@chronomex> Barrett: am rapist?
20:19 < link_36p> Uh oh.
20:19 < Barrett> http://www.codeismylife.com/ascii_pedobear/20509.html
20:19 <@chronomex> hahhaa no.
20:19 < link_36p> It doesn't matter I am proficient at fending off rapist :p
20:20 < link_36p> We have a linux user group in everett.
20:20 < link_36p> With about 6 poeple.. -_-
20:20 <@chronomex> ha
20:20 < link_36p> Most of them over 45.
20:20 <@chronomex> we have linux user group in seattle
20:20 <@chronomex> with about the same age range
20:20 <@chronomex> but more people
20:21 <@chronomex> you should come to seattle NOT for the lug
20:21 < link_36p> And these 6 poeple spend very little time talking about linux.
20:21 < link_36p> I come to seattle for..
20:21 < link_36p> Beer pong at my cousins house :p
20:21 <@chronomex> heh
20:22 < link_36p> Anything more interesting to do there?
20:22 <@chronomex> oh definitely
20:22 <@chronomex> what sort of things do you do for fun?
20:22 <@chronomex> besides drinking
20:22 < link_36p> I do gymnastics and um, program
20:23 < link_36p> Those are my biggest hobbys I guess.
20:23 <@chronomex> ok
20:23 <@chronomex> I know how to entertain programmers
20:24 < link_36p> I was going to write an math exp. evalutor for a class project.
20:24 < link_36p> But now I want to write an entire CAS.
20:24 < link_36p> So I'm reading a book I found on the subject.
20:24 <@chronomex> so someone from http://www.victortech.com/ emailed all the ticalc staffers looking for pointers to someone who ... "understands the input and output methods of Applications as they are transferred from computer to calculator and calculator to calculator."
20:25 <@chronomex> they want help with a SECRET TI83/84 APPLICATION
20:25 <@chronomex> anyone want to be recommended?
20:25 < Barrett> BrandonW
20:25 <@Andy_J> seems like they want to do licensing
20:25 <@Andy_J> can't be done
20:25 <@chronomex> I'm only recommending people who tell me that they want to
20:25 <@chronomex> yeah
20:25 <@chronomex> it does
20:27 < KermM> I hate companies that write nonfree/nonlibre calc apps
20:27 <@chronomex> yeah, I understand
20:27 <@chronomex> I don't hate them though, I just think it's funny
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20:30 <@chronomex> he gave me a phone number
20:30 <@chronomex> I think I'll give him a call
20:31 < KermM> chronomex, I hate them when they spam the TI wiki pages
20:31 < KermM> although I did deal with that :P
20:32 <@chronomex> "Victor Technolgy [sic]" ?
20:32 < KermM> heehee fail
20:32 <@chronomex> was it them or someone else spamming?
20:32 <@chronomex> btw their website is completely inaccessible from w3m
20:32 <@chronomex> what a surprise, right?
20:32 < KermM> total surprise
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20:38 < Barrett> http://i.imgur.com/oRffH.jpg
20:39 <@chronomex> hahhahaaa nice
20:39 < KermM> Barrett++
20:40 <@E-J> apple always likes to steal http://sanjose.bizjournals.com/sanjose/stories/2010/01/25/daily71.html?surround=lfn
20:42 <@nikky> thx chronomex 
20:42 < bsparks> E-J, they "stole" iPod too
20:42 < bsparks> I still can't fathom how one can steal a product name
20:43 <@nikky> he might be legit though, chronomex 
20:44 <@E-J> bsparks: well, some companies like to trademark their product names and apple would make accusations if for example you would make a machine and call it macbook
20:44 < bsparks> Indeed
20:45 < bsparks> but you also have to leverage noteriety in it
20:47 < sir_lewk> pimps
20:48 <@chronomex> nikky: yeah, well he didn't answer his phone
20:48 <@nikky> lame
20:52 <@chronomex> yeah
20:52 <@chronomex> might be because I don't send callerid
20:52 < sir_lewk> "< Barrett> http://i.imgur.com/oRffH.jpg" Barrett, I want to have your babies.
20:52 < Barrett> I didn't do it..
20:53 < Barrett> I'm just the messenger
20:53 < sir_lewk> still
20:53 < sir_lewk> still
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21:09 < sir_lewk> http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/frantic_steve_jobs_stays_up lmao
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21:33 < Randomist> {i,me,you,your,us,our,we,they,them,their,he,his,him,she,her,it}Phone?
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21:37 < Randomist> hiKrisk.
21:37 <+krisk> hey
21:37 <+krisk> sup
21:37 < Randomist> No classes.  Yay, snow.
21:37 <+jr19> snow in texas eh
21:37 <+jr19> its cold everywhere
21:37 <+jr19> and hey krisk
21:38 <+krisk> hi
21:38 <+glk> Freezing rain in Tulsa ok
21:39  * Randomist watches the milk in a cup sitting on his desk ripple with the subwoofer.
21:39 < Randomist> </easily_amused>
21:41 <@E-J> snowing and -20C in espoo
21:41 <@E-J> sorry, much warmer -15C
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21:42 <@E-J> but with wind -20C
21:43 <+krisk> damn Heroes gets retardeder by the minute
21:44 <+jr19> i've never seen that show
21:44 <@E-J> i stopped watching after first 2 episodes of season 2
21:44 <+jr19> E-J: -13C here, but sunny
21:45 <+jr19> with wind -19C
21:46 <+krisk> that samuel earth moving guy character leveled a town with a landslide
21:46 <@E-J> tomorrow they say -14C + 6m/s wind = -23.3C
21:46 <+jr19> its supposed to be slightly warmer here tomorrow
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21:48 <+jr19> http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2358545,00.asp
22:13 <+krisk> so how about that MSI Tegra?
22:14 <+krisk> *Tegra tablet
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22:49 < JoeYoung> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HM9tyNkUAg
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23:00 <+krisk> ...thats pathetic even to 12 year olds, who're supposed to be into that yugiho stuff
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23:02 < efneTI92> [Tyler2] I no longer speak fluent dialup.
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23:11 < Randomist> http://theoatmeal.com/comics/semicolon - Y'know, it would have been awesome to have him for an English teacher.
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23:23 <+ports-> i_c-Y, thank you
23:24 < KermM> hey i_c-Y, any thoughts on Rocks for the cluster, pos or neg?
23:24 < elfprince> Rocks is for clusters......
23:30 < link_36p> Does anyone here own a netbook?
23:30 <+ports-> no
23:30 <+ports-> but i want an ipad
23:30 < link_36p> It doesn't have multi tasking or USB
23:30 < link_36p> Are you sure you want an Ipad :o
23:30 <+ports-> link_36p, i know :<
23:31 < link_36p> Lol just making sure.
23:31 <+ports-> i was going to order one last night till i saw it ran iphone os
23:31 < link_36p> Ya... Kinda bizzare.
23:31 < link_36p> I would go as far to say it's apples worst product since jobs took over again.
23:31 < link_36p> At least for how hyped it was.
23:32 <+ports-> link_36p, that wasnt apples fault
23:32 < link_36p> Whos was it then?
23:32 <+ports-> the media just gets stupid over Apple
23:32 <+ports-> everyone gave it far more attention than it deserved
23:32 < link_36p> Ahh thats a good point.
23:32 <+ports-> Apple wasnt like "hey weve got a new tablet, check it out" .. they kept it all a secret
23:33 <+ports-> link_36p, im waiting on the HP Slate now..
23:33 <+glk> Apple computers are based on one found in a flying saucer, millions
23:33 <+glk> of years better than IBM
23:34 <+ports-> link_36p, i hope the HP Slate improves a lot
23:36  * Randomist notices how crime/drama shows use the whole Windows-/DOS-y looking interface, while two thirds of everyone else uses Macs.
23:36 < Randomist> Hell, even cartoons use Macs.  :P
23:39 <+glk> Scotty used a Mac to design transparent aluminum
23:40 <+ports-> i use a mac at work
23:40 <+ports-> but i run windows on it
23:40 <+glk> I run a Mac now
23:40 < JoeYoung> I won't even consider getting an iPad until it gets jailbroken.
23:40 < JoeYoung> It's got one unforgiveable flaw.
23:40 < link_36p> I'm suprised the iPad wasn't some ultimate platform for photoshop
23:40 < JoeYoung> link_36p, it technically is, they just didn't talk about it,
23:41 < link_36p> I thought it didn't run osx
23:42 < JoeYoung> It's supposed to have some sort of art application.
23:42 <@chronomex> I won't even *consider* running Linux on an Nspire until it gets jailbroken
23:42 <@chronomex> oh wait
23:42 <@chronomex> it has
23:42 < JoeYoung> Anyway, I'd only buy it for osu once it's jailbroken
23:42 <@chronomex> and I'm compiling gcc to target arm9 now
23:42 <@chronomex> MY BAD
23:43 < JoeYoung> wtf chronomex
23:43 < JoeYoung> you're not making sense.
23:43 < link_36p> chronomax: I thought you were doing that yesterday.
23:45 <@chronomex> I did it wrong yesterday
23:45 < link_36p> Ahhh :/
23:45 <@chronomex> forgot to tell it to actually target armel
23:45 <@chronomex> so it built a new x86 compiler
23:46 <@chronomex> :S
23:46 <@chronomex> well it'll be done by tomorrow
23:46 < link_36p> Opsys
23:46 <@chronomex> I look forward to booting linux in the emulator
23:46 <@chronomex> we'll see how long that takes
23:46 <@chronomex> :)
23:46 <@chronomex> er, how long it takes me to get there
23:47 < link_36p> Emulator for the nspire? or an emulator running in the nspire.
23:48 <@chronomex> there's a nspire emulator on the UTI forum that people have been usign
23:48 <@chronomex> runs in windows
23:48 <@chronomex> also runs very well in winE
23:48 <@chronomex> WINE
23:48 < link_36p> That would be crazy to have linux powering a calcultor
23:49 < link_36p> Is the nspire still considered a calcultor?
23:49 < link_36p> Err um.
23:49 < link_36p> Not still
23:49 < link_36p> But is it?
23:49 <@chronomex> yeah
23:49 <@chronomex> and i don't see any good reason why it won't run linux
23:49 <@chronomex> yes we have gotten to this point
23:50 <@chronomex> jumped the shark, so to speak
23:50 < link_36p> Well will the display use standard VGA drivers?
23:51 <@chronomex> oh goodness no
23:51 < link_36p> Also it would seem you would need drivers for the keypad.
23:51 <@chronomex> but I don't think it'll be very hard to get the video driver written
23:51 < link_36p> Well then how is that gonna work.
23:51 <@chronomex> there are so many other memory-mapped framebuffer drivers already
23:51 < link_36p> Well...
23:51 <@chronomex> probably take me an afternoon to get a framebuffer driver running, I estimate
23:51 <@chronomex> don't know about keyboard but I'll figure something out
23:52 <@chronomex> it's not *that* hard to program embedded systems, after all ..
23:52 < link_36p> If you had linux running on it, it would be cool to have linux boot into a CAS
23:52 <@chronomex> that's why I like it :)
23:52 <@chronomex> pfeh
23:52 <@chronomex> sure
23:52 <@chronomex> if you want to use it like a calculator, man, whatever.
23:53 <@chronomex> :P
23:53 < link_36p> I wish the ti-89 could run linux ;(
23:53 <@chronomex> yeah well
23:53 <@Andy_J> no MMU
23:53 <@chronomex> it can't.
23:53 < link_36p> Couldn't get away with an nspire on tests
23:53 <@Andy_J> does the nspire have an MMU?
23:53 <@chronomex> Andy_J: yes it does!
23:53 < link_36p> The teacher would be like "ehh?"
23:53 <@Andy_J> well there you go then
23:54 <@chronomex> that's what made me go down this road
23:54 <@chronomex> link_36p: you couldn't?
23:54 <@Andy_J> I didn't read anything that wasn't already on my screen :)
23:54 <@chronomex> but it's got the TI LOGO OF TRUST on it!
23:54 < link_36p> Since they have qewrty keyboards there considered computers
23:54 < link_36p> No computers on math tests :p
23:54 <@chronomex> a nspire doens't have a qwerty keybaord
23:55 <@Andy_J> too bad I know nothing about ARM and very little about system-level C and driver hacking
23:55 <@chronomex> it's abcde
23:55 <@chronomex> Andy_J: yeah, well, I know nothing about arm either
23:55 < link_36p> And you don't really need to :p
23:55 <@chronomex> but I know system-level C and can pretend the rest with the best of them
23:55 <@Andy_J> ... in theory I already have an ARM gcc
23:55 <@Andy_J> ... but it'd be for the iphone's proc
23:55 <@chronomex> heh
23:57 <@Andy_J> and apparently it isn't in my PATH on my macbook
23:57 <@Andy_J> did I not install the iphone sdk on it since I reformatted?
23:57 <@chronomex> guess not
23:57 <@Andy_J> just i686-apple-darwin- and powerpc-apple-darwin
23:57 <@Andy_J> =\
23:57 <@Andy_J> hmm no
23:57 <@Andy_J> xcode is offering iPhone projects
23:57 <@chronomex> wonder if using arm-linux-gnu- would be problem
23:58 <@chronomex> probably not if I link statically
23:58 <+ports-> hm
23:58 <@chronomex> also not if I just install linux on the thing :)
23:58 <@chronomex> WOOO LINUX
23:58  * chronomex summons nikky
23:59 <@Andy_J> gcc -b arm is ignoring the -b
23:59 <@chronomex> -b ?
23:59 <@chronomex> oh
23:59 <@chronomex> target
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