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00:42 < asmand> E-J: pong
00:50 < JoeYoung> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8fpLem2-ho
00:50 < JoeYoung> http://www.vgcats.com/super/images/100125.gif
00:50 < bsparks> Barrett_, YOU FUCKING DOUCHEBAG
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00:52 <@nikky> ?
00:52 <@nikky> What did he do?
00:52 < Barrett_> I did something annoying
00:53 < Barrett_> after he complained about me unintentionally doing something else annoying :)
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00:53 < Barrett_> nikky, stop
00:53 < Barrett_> I get e-mails for that
00:54 <@nikky> I know
00:55 < incubus> Nikky = Loli
00:56 < JoeYoung> lol no
00:56 <@nikky> loli?
00:56 < JoeYoung> some anime thing
00:56 < JoeYoung> japanese pedophilia
00:57 < JoeYoung> or rather, loli is the victim thereof
00:58 <@nikky> O.o
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00:59 < Randomist> [What] the hell?
00:59 <@E-J> asmand: kirjoititko dipan latex-pohjalla vai wordiin tms?
01:00 < JoeYoung> Recently, a few people into that stuff started frequenting #omnimaga
01:00 < JoeYoung> it drives kevin up the wall XD
01:00 < JoeYoung> hilarity ensues.
01:01 <@BrandonW> I have a friend that calls his girlfriend that. Freaks me out.
01:01 <@E-J> i know one woman whose ircnick is lolitaV
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01:01 < JoeYoung> it used to freak me out. it's been tossed around at school a lot. now i'm used to hearing it.
01:01 <@BrandonW> I think he actually is a pedophile.
01:01 < incubus> BrandonW, me? O_O
01:01 <@BrandonW> A closet pedophile.
01:01 <@BrandonW> No, my friend.
01:01 < incubus> lol
01:04 < asmand> E-J: latex
01:06 <@E-J> ok
01:06 <@E-J> just taisin päätyä itte samaan kun löyty sopivasti pohja
01:09 <@E-J> mut vois nukkua
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01:18 < efneTI92> [DSP_Lord] I'm not a ninja, no idea what you're talking about.
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01:32 <+ports-> anyone listen to the bob and tom radio show?
01:32 <@nikky> no
01:32 <@nikky> sounds like a bunch of country bumpkins
01:33 <+ports-> they are
01:35 < Randomist> Quick:  Mini-Wheats or Honey Bunches of Oats?
01:38 <+ports-> mini wheats
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02:12 < Randomist> azrael999:  `mail` in a new terminal.
02:19 < Randomist> There is a perfect ring of reflection around the moon.  It's awesome.  I could stare at that all night.
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02:33 <+ports-> Randomist, take a photo for me
02:35 <+ports-> my windows are plastic'd so i cant see out
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02:51 <@BrandonW> The only thing worse than TI Connect is TI Connect for OS X.
02:52 <@BrandonW> That is all.
02:52 < Barrett_> anyone here use scheme?
02:53 < incubus> ew
02:54 < bsparks> BrandonW, I wholeheartedly agree
03:11 < sir_lewk> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGvHNNOLnCk lawdy
03:13 < i_c-Y> im reading bill gates' twitter now
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03:14 <@BrandonW> ORLY
03:14 < i_c-Y> yarly
03:14 < i_c-Y> he tweets like a mf'er apparantly
03:14 < i_c-Y> http://twitter.com/BILLGATES
03:16 < DrDnar> Wow, a petition to cancel Haiti's national debt. We sure could use one of those.
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03:56 < phrenia> my ears are burning
03:56 < phrenia> hi BrandonW 
03:56 < phrenia> brb.
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04:20 <@chronomex> !qadd <BrandonW> The only thing worse than TI Connect is TI Connect for OS X.
04:20 <@efneTI86> Quote 1682 added
04:21 < i_c-Y> <BrandonW> The only thing worse than TI Connect is TI Connect for OS X.
04:21 < i_c-Y> <BrandonW> The only thing worse than TI Connect is OS X.
04:21 < i_c-Y> there fix'd that 4 u
04:21 <@BrandonW> THX
04:22 < i_c-Y> has anyone else noticed ashley tisdale has a huge nose?
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04:37 < sir_lewk> http://www.gentoo.org/news/20100125-misa-guitar-interview.xml wat
04:37 < sir_lewk> just wat
04:37 < sir_lewk> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2eiP12hQQY science, what have you done?
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05:20 < millinao>  whats with all the os x hate
05:20 < millinao> it does exactly what it's supposed to, and sells like hotcakes anyway
05:21 < Randomist> Can't be hating too much on OS X.  At least it's *nix-based.  :P
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05:21 < Randomist> They did at least one thing right.
05:24 < millinao> what's that, marketing
05:24 < Randomist> And that.  :P
05:25 < JoeYoung> oh, hrmm.
05:25 < Randomist> Compared to Windows' marketing ("'Bing,' 'Bing' / 'Bing' goes the Internet!")...
05:25 < JoeYoung> I stumbled upon the SMBZ creator's deviantart page.
05:26 < JoeYoung> He appears to be quite the furry, to put it mildly.
05:26 < Barrett_> scheme sucks
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05:27 < millinao> haha, lisp
05:27 < millinao> oh, sorry
05:27 < Randomist> (lisp)
05:27 < millinao> ((hah)a)(lis(p))
05:27 < millinao> you stole my joke randomist
05:28 < Jonimus> (+ (+ ha ha) lisp)
05:30 <@BrandonW> This might be the first time I'm actually scared that I'm unable to sleep.
05:30 <@BrandonW> I think I'm finally immune.
05:30 < Randomist> What happened?
05:31 <@BrandonW> I just haven't slept in forever and I really should be exhausted right now, but I think I'm going to go to Wal-Mart.
05:31 < Randomist> Lunesta?
05:31 < Randomist> (Or something or other?)
05:31 <@BrandonW> Why would I want to get rid of such a gift?!
05:32 < Randomist> So you don't die?  :P
05:32 <@BrandonW> I'm okay with shaving ten years off the end of my life for some really productive ones now.
05:33 < i_c-Y> Randomist: saying OS X is unix based is true, but it doesnt make it a better operating system. having a F350 engine in a honda ridgeline doesn't make it a good trucki.
05:33 < Jonimus> ^
05:34 < Randomist> I didn't say it was good; I just said at least they took a step in the right direction.  Anyone can do something good with a good thing, then turn it into something bad.  :P
05:34 < barrett> who says that's the right direction?
05:35  * Randomist inserts an "IMO" in there somewhere.
05:39  * Randomist needs to learn how to teach people things.
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05:44 <@BrandonW> PS3 hacked, kids.
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05:53 < JoeYoung> whoa, what?
05:55 < JoeYoung> Oh wow, I see.
06:00 < JoeYoung> Interesting! And apparently by the same person who jailbroke the first iPhone
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06:30 < efneTI92> [KermM_] http://www.cemetech.net :: Leading The Way to the Future
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08:38 < Randomist> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8G_znd_4v4  -- "The one time Windows doesn't crash when you need it to."
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11:08 < efneTI92> [leofox] All we do in hell is play DDR!
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13:20 < link_36p> Can anyone here tell me how to pass a function to function?
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14:20 <+ports> i need to make my laptop overheat quickly
14:20 <+ports> what should i run?
14:21 <+ports> i left it in the car overnight at 9F.. and its horribly cold to touch right now
14:22 <+jr19> put it in the oven
14:25 <+ports> nah
14:25 <+ports> im gunna start prime95
14:44 <@Andy_J> er, you shouldn't have turned it on until it was back to room temp
14:46 <+jr19> why not
15:10 < tev> Condensation
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15:21 < efneTI92> [KermM] http://www.cemetech.net :: Leading The Way to the Future
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15:30 <@E-J> http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE60Q0OB20100127
15:32 <+jr19> omgz not pig heads
15:32 <+jr19> maybe people should stop being so sensitive
15:33 <@E-J> have you joined to fb group?-)
15:36 <+jr19> no
15:36 <+jr19> i dont join facebook groups
15:36 <+jr19> i think i did at one point when i first started using facebook but i haven't in a long time
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16:02  * Randomist stabs programs that write to STDERR when they should be writing to STDOUT.
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16:11 < efneTI92> [KermM_] http://www.cemetech.net :: Leading The Way to the Future
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17:07 <@E-J> Randomist: i have a friend who always uses stderr instead of stdout
17:08 < mokomull> Randomist: Funny, I usually stab the other way
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17:28 < efneTI92> [KermM_] http://www.cemetech.net :: Leading The Way to the Future
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18:12 < azerti> hi
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18:16 < efneTI92> [KermM] http://www.cemetech.net :: Leading The Way to the Future
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18:27 < Barrett__> what an ugly tablet
18:28 <@_Auron_> holy fucking shit: http://www.youtube.com/user/rymdreglage
18:31 <@_Auron_> watch it in 1080
18:33 < sir_lewk> my CRT is 640x480 you insensitive clod!
18:34 <@E-J> Barrett__: did you expect more?
18:34 <@_Auron_> sir_lewk: get with the times :O
18:34 <@_Auron_> I hope you're joking
18:36 < Spengo> http://www.onlineathens.com/stories/012610/new_554646715.shtml
18:36 < Spengo> loooooooooooool
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18:40 < sir_lewk> of course I'm joking ;)
18:40 < sir_lewk> I had to specify CRT though, otherwise 640x480 could have been plausible.  cellphones and whatnot :)
18:44 < asmand> iPad...
18:45 < asmand> for those special days of the month
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18:56 < sir_lewk> lol asmand
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19:06 <@chronomex> you know what the new apple tablet needs?
19:06 <@chronomex> flip-out keyboard.
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19:07 < Exploiter> that's a retarded idea
19:07 <@chronomex> no, that's a "laptop"
19:07 < sir_lewk> http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1526858&cid=30920252 <== This.
19:08 < Exploiter> ipad is not a "laptop" herp derp
19:08 < Exploiter> it's called a tablet for a reason
19:08 <@chronomex> well it could be
19:08 <@chronomex> it's like a horrible abortion of a laptop
19:08 <@chronomex> btw I haven't actually seen the thing
19:08 < Exploiter> it's a tablet. go kill yourself
19:08 < sir_lewk> Exploiter: it is called fucking retarded for a reason
19:08 <@chronomex> and I don't care to
19:08 < sir_lewk> Exploiter: every single tablet I have ever seen has a keyboard
19:08 < sir_lewk> you know why?
19:09 < Exploiter> because they don't have multitouch screens?
19:09 < sir_lewk> because a fullsize touch keyboard is fucking retarded.
19:09 < Exploiter> :3
19:09 < Exploiter> talkin to a fangirl. sorry
19:09 < Exploiter> :P
19:09 < sir_lewk> doesn't mean you can't use your brain
19:09 <@chronomex> lol
19:09 <@chronomex> clearly it does thoug
19:09 < sir_lewk> hell, they haven't even announced the damned thing
19:09 < Exploiter> want live video feed?
19:10 <@chronomex> live video doesn't work so well on 80x25 greenscreen terminal
19:10 <@chronomex> :)
19:10 < sir_lewk> right now you're not 'fangirling' for apple, you're 'fangirling' for a bunch of idiots on the internet that don't have better tech shit to write articles about.
19:10 <@chronomex> like, say, the nspire exploit
19:11 <@chronomex> there, brought it back on topic for you
19:11 < Exploiter> >.<
19:11 <@chronomex> :D
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19:13 < sir_lewk> is there new nspire news?
19:13 <@chronomex> um, no.
19:13 < sir_lewk> oh, oh well
19:13 <@chronomex> yeah, pity
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19:19 < Exploiter> iPad starts at $499
19:19 <@chronomex> DONT CARE
19:20 < Barrett__> I like how people are so used to apple that they think that's a good price
19:20 <@chronomex> lol
19:20 < Barrett__> oh man
19:20 < Barrett__> but somehow
19:20 < Barrett__> the 3G card adds $130
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19:21 < Exploiter> rofl chronomex you fucking called it
19:21 < Exploiter> they made a keyboard dock
19:21 < Exploiter> looks like a retarded iMac
19:21 <@chronomex> hahahaha
19:22 <@chronomex> < Lain> this is great marketing, because it makes the iPhone look like a better value
19:22 < Exploiter> full size desk keyboard and you dock the iPad on it
19:22 <@chronomex> can't fit that in your pocket either
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19:23 < Barrett__> I predict that the keyboard doc will cost a low $129!
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19:25 <+krisk> :o
19:26 < Barrett__> wow, people on twitter are... retarded...
19:26 <@chronomex> is that really news to you?
19:27 <@_Auron_> hahaha
19:27 < Barrett__> it's kind of scary, actually... that people like this exist
19:27 < Barrett__> "wow MS you are SOOO far behind now"
19:27 < Barrett__> "once again apple shows they can innovate! unlike microsoft!"
19:27 < Barrett__> what on earth is new about this thing?
19:27 < sir_lewk> because Barrett__
19:28 < sir_lewk> they perfected an enlarging ray
19:29 <+krisk> what is this about?
19:29 <+jr19> krisk: ipad
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19:29 < efneTI92> [Genolo] Only my railgun can shoot letting my soul out~
19:30 <+krisk> wat?
19:30 <+krisk> oh I see it on /g/
19:30 <+krisk> bah
19:30 <@chronomex> krisk: is /g/ your only source of newsA?
19:31 <+krisk> no
19:31 <+krisk> i browse a free dutch newspaper headlines website nuhttp://.nl
19:31 <+krisk> bah
19:31 <+krisk> http://nu.nl
19:31 < sir_lewk> Barrett__: unfortunetly, it only works on ipods though
19:31 <+jr19> 4 out of the 7 channels i'm in are talking about it so it's able to get peoples attention
19:32 <+krisk> but for tech news, yes /g/ is the only source i frequent
19:34 < sir_lewk> it's able to get peoples attention because every single tech website has been masterbating over the idea of it for the past few weeks
19:35 < sir_lewk> and now that we actually get to see it, it's just so fucking funny xD
19:35 <@chronomex> :P
19:37 <+krisk> what's apple's obsession with making screens and filling them with fake buttons?
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19:37 < sir_lewk> replace "tablet" with penis, and "so great" with "so big"
19:37 < Genolo> http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj182/Obsidian_Serpent/EveryoneHatesUSA.png
19:37 < sir_lewk> pretty much what is going on here
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19:38 < sir_lewk> krisk: brain damage
19:38 < sir_lewk> fallout from all the acid jobs does
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19:40 < sir_lewk> seriously though, this thing is awesome
19:41 < sir_lewk> now I have more ammo for trolling my mac friends with
19:41 < Barrett__> the macbook wheel wasn't so far off...
19:42 < Genolo> sir_lewk: what 
19:42 < Genolo> what can you troll them with
19:43 < sir_lewk> Barrett__++
19:43 < Barrett__> http://www.theonion.com/content/video/apple_introduces_revolutionary
19:43 < sir_lewk> Genolo: this oversized ipod thing
19:44 <@nikky> sir_lewk: I know!
19:44 <@nikky> It's perfect
19:45 < sir_lewk> so good
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19:45 < efneTI92> [leofox] All we do in hell is play DDR!
19:46 <@chronomex> !qadd <sir_lewk> seriously though, this thing [the iPad] is awesome | <sir_lewk> now I have more ammo for trolling my mac friends with
19:46 <@efneTI86> Quote 1683 added
19:46 <@chronomex> !q
19:46 <@efneTI86> 47: <PatrickD> Ox40, you consider your own statements to be useless?  good for you! [Added: Ox40 at 2005/05/10 18:45]
19:47 < Genolo> sir_lewk: that is the gayest thing i've ever seen in my entire life
19:47 < sir_lewk> yes.  yes I know.
19:47 < sir_lewk> I can't stop laughing
19:47 <@nikky> no... homosexuals have taste
19:48 < Barrett__> oh wow, speaking of homosexuals... 
19:48 < Genolo> it must take like
19:48 < Genolo> 10 minutes to write one sentence
19:48 < Barrett__> "[roommate] loud footwear should be illegal i can still hear the clicking of that girl's boots"  "[his very very close friend] don't tap your last season guccis at me! Name that movie!"  "[roommate] Legally blonde? Are they gucci? I thought he said something else?"
19:49 < Barrett__> (facebook status conversation)
19:49 < leofox> they weren't guccis iirc
19:49 < leofox> I remember that scene
19:49 < Barrett__> it's funny because the logic used in the movie also applies to this situation
19:49 < leofox> they were some fancy italian brand
19:50 <+krisk> wat
19:50 < leofox> and no, I'm not a fag
19:51 < leofox> sup kirsk
19:51 < sir_lewk> !qadd < Genolo> sir_lewk: that [ iPad ] is the gayest thing i've ever seen in my entire life | <@nikky> no... homosexuals have taste
19:51 <@efneTI86> Quote 1684 added
19:51 < leofox> haha iPad
19:51 < sir_lewk> awesome
19:52 < leofox> this coconut tastes fucking great
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19:54 < Genolo> ....
19:54 < Genolo> the charger from my old laptop has been plugged in a couple weeks without being used
19:54 < Genolo> and i noticed the light was still on
19:54 < Genolo> so i tried unplugging it
19:54 < Genolo> and i recieved a shock
19:55 < leofox> heh
19:55 < Genolo> i got it out though so it's all good
19:55 <+krisk> sup leofox
19:55 <@_Auron_> fuck yeah
19:55 <@_Auron_> I hit the 180lb mark today
19:55 <@_Auron_> now I can only go down :D
19:56 <@chronomex> well you *could* eat a bunch and sit around
19:56 <@chronomex> then you would go up
19:56 <@chronomex> but congrats :)
19:56 <@_Auron_> except my job = physical labor
19:56 <+krisk> oh lol when i read 180lbs i though yay almost 200
19:56 <@_Auron_> chronomex: yer
19:56 <@_Auron_> I've been eating healthier and having lesser portions
19:56 <@chronomex> _Auron_: aye, ok
19:56 <@_Auron_> I can't even have sandwich + chips anymore, just a sandwich
19:56 <@_Auron_> chips is too much extra for a meal
19:56 < sir_lewk> I ate water for lunch today
19:57 <@_Auron_> lol
19:57 <@_Auron_> ate? you had ice? :p
19:57 < sir_lewk> nah, drank
19:57 <+krisk> fuck yeah frozen grapes
19:57 <@_Auron_> I know
19:57 <@_Auron_> krisk: hmm
19:57 <@_Auron_> that sounds good
19:57 < sir_lewk> but I chewed it to trick my brain into thinking I was eating ;P
19:57 <@_Auron_> sir_lewk: lol
19:57 <@chronomex> tjathat's a pretty sad lunch
19:57 <@_Auron_> yeah
19:57 <+krisk> time for rice and chicken and milk and whey
19:57 < sir_lewk> I forgot my leftover pizza
19:57 < sir_lewk> going to eat it for dinner I guess
19:57 <@_Auron_> well I'm going to shave, shower, and head to work early to get our deli sandwiches.. kinda like subway but higher class
19:58 <@_Auron_> chunks of romaine lettuce instead of that fakeass chopped and watery iceberg lettuec
19:59 <@_Auron_> I only sometimes get dressing, and if I do it's just mustard
20:00 <@_Auron_> turkey and harvati cheese grilled panini with romaine lettuce, fresh tomato slices, pickles and jalapenos
20:00 <@_Auron_> then I get tea with it for free since I'm an emloyee, plus discount
20:00 < Genolo> sigh
20:00 <@_Auron_> so sandwich and drink (and chips if I had room to eat them) for $4
20:00 < Genolo> my mom moved stuff around in my room
20:00 < Genolo> and i can't find the tissues
20:00 < Genolo> and i have bird shit on my shoulder
20:00 <@_Auron_> sucks
20:00 <@_Auron_> okay, bbl
20:01 < link_36p> Is it possible to pass a function to a function as an argument in TI-89 basic?
20:01 < sir_lewk> link_36p: yes
20:01 < sir_lewk> you have to pass it as a string though
20:01 < sir_lewk> then use whatever function executes strings
20:01 < sir_lewk> I think that should work
20:02 <+jr19> 14:00 < Genolo> and i have bird shit on my shoulder
20:02 < sir_lewk> forget the function name that does that though, eval or something?
20:02 <+jr19> wat
20:02 < link_36p> I want to store it as a function so I can use it with solve and limit.
20:02 <@nikky> som/eone should tell link about #ti
20:02 < link_36p> #ti seemed less helpful.
20:02 <@nikky> for future reference :)
20:02 < link_36p> Ok dokie :)
20:03 < sir_lewk> you make a function like you make any program or function
20:03 < sir_lewk> then you can use it wherever you normally use a function
20:03 < tev> expr(), I think, is what executes strings.
20:03 < sir_lewk> you can also make a program that takes a string as an arguement, and executes it
20:03 < sir_lewk> that string can be the program name
20:03 < sir_lewk> tev: yes, that sounds right
20:03 <@chronomex> yup
20:04 <@chronomex> part() dissects expressions into subexpressions and strings
20:04 < tev> (string() and expr() are also handy for storing lists inside lists, etc.)
20:04 < link_36p> I'm just trying to write a simple function that takes the sequence of an infinite series and then returns the radius of convergence for a variable X using the ratio test.
20:05 < sir_lewk> well that math is way over my head ;)
20:07 < link_36p> Its not so bad, but the CAS handles it nicely. solve(limit(abs(f(n+1)/f(n)),n,inf) < 1, x)
20:07 < link_36p> I want to use it to check answers on a test but don't want to type it in everytime.
20:07 <@chronomex> mhm
20:09 < sir_lewk> ok, I see what you are saying
20:10 < Barrett__> my phone is better than the ipad
20:10 < link_36p> I just tried passing the argument as f and then doing expr(f)->f(n), but it still insists on saying "Argument Error"
20:10 < Barrett__> screen resolution is almost as good.  processor speed is the same
20:10 < Barrett__> my phone can multitask.  I can talk on it
20:11 <+krisk> can ipad call?
20:11 < Barrett__> doubt it, without voip
20:11 < Barrett__> and my phone costs less
20:11 <+krisk> then it loses by default
20:12 < sir_lewk> well, you can make your function take it's arguments as strings, then build up a string to be executed with string concatination
20:12 < sir_lewk> link_36p: ^
20:12 < link_36p> It only needs one argument, the function.
20:13 < sir_lewk> ah, that should work then
20:13 < link_36p> Seems like it would be easier considering many of the TI-89s built-in functions take functions as arguments (like derrive and integrate)
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20:14 < sir_lewk> yeah, I don't know how that works
20:14 < sir_lewk> might not be doable that way from basic
20:15 < link_36p> Ya passing the function to expr it says "argument not a string"
20:16 < asmand> one thing I like with my Nokia is the multitasking
20:19 <+krisk> how do you multitask?
20:19 <+krisk> because I cant really get beyond listening to music while I do something as the prime of my multitasking abilities
20:26 < asmand> having browser up while going to my address book to check a number for instance
20:26 < asmand> then write an sms
20:26 < asmand> and check back and forth between them
20:26 < asmand> while listening to music or talking on the phone
20:26 <+krisk> all on the screen at the same time?
20:26 < asmand> no
20:27 < Barrett__> um... having a chat program running in the background
20:27 < asmand> and putty
20:27 < asmand> yeat
20:27 < asmand> yeah
20:27 < Barrett__> is a prime example of why the iphone sucks
20:27 < Barrett__> or an ssh program, exactly 
20:27 < asmand> I still want an iphone though :D
20:27 < Genolo> iphone does suck
20:27 < Genolo> so do ipod touches
20:28 < asmand> I have a nano
20:28 < asmand> and I like it
20:28 < Genolo> i have a touch
20:28 < Genolo> i only use it for music 
20:28 < Genolo> irc sometimes
20:29 <+krisk> multitasking is dumb
20:29 <+krisk> switching apps to check a number isnt multitasking
20:29 < Genolo> there is an app on the iphone to switch apps without closing them
20:29 < Barrett__> the things that I just said are multitasking
20:30 <+krisk> theyre only multitasking to your device, not to you yourself
20:30 < Genolo> if you jailbreak it
20:30 < Barrett__> exactly, krisk
20:30 <+krisk> in fact it wouldnt even need to be multitasking for your device since it only shows one of each thing at once anyway
20:30 < Barrett__> I'd like to keep google talk OPEN so that people can talk to me
20:30 < Genolo> Barrett__: on the iphone?
20:30 < Barrett__> on whatever phone I have
20:30 < Barrett__> my phone does it perfectly
20:30 < Barrett__> iphone? nope
20:31 < Genolo> iphone can do it
20:31 < Genolo> jailbreak it
20:31 < Genolo> download backgrounder
20:31 < Genolo> and then use kirkae or multiflow to switch apps
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20:31 < Genolo> the only good things on the iphone you need to jailbreak for
20:32 < Genolo> and the homebrew community is 99% dumbasses
20:32 < Genolo> 1% greedy people
20:34 < Barrett__> wow, no camera
20:34 < Barrett__> this thing sucks
20:34 < Barrett__> I'm glad I'm not an apple fanboy
20:35 < Genolo> how can apple even have fanboys
20:35 < Genolo> you'd have to be really stupid to be a fanboy of apple
20:35 < Barrett__> there are a lot of really stupid people
20:35 <+krisk> people think its an easy way of being hip
20:35 < Barrett__> I wonder what Andy_J's opinion is
20:35 <+krisk> lots of people want to be hip
20:35 < Genolo> how are macs hip
20:36 < Genolo> they're shit
20:36 < Genolo> and they cost a crapload of money
20:36 <+krisk> apple's portable equipment is hip
20:36 <@Andy_J> crap
20:36 < Genolo> apple's portable equipment is crap
20:36 <+krisk> but people think its hip
20:36 <+krisk> 'look at my iphone shit is cash brah'
20:36 <+krisk> obviously it isnt really
20:36 < Genolo> it's overpriced
20:37 < Genolo> and doesn't work right
20:37 < Genolo> and doesn't play flac
20:37 < Genolo> and they're easy to brick
20:37 < Genolo> i've done it like 6 times
20:37 <+krisk> dude dont hate i have a better portable sound system than you do i am fully aware of how much apple sucks
20:37 <+krisk> but people think its hip
20:37 <+krisk> therefor $$$
20:37 < Genolo> i would sell my ipod if i could
20:38 <+krisk> you can
20:38 < Genolo> it's first gen and scratched as hell
20:38 <+krisk> ill buy it for $1
20:38 < Genolo> >_>
20:38 <@Andy_J> it looks like a decent device but I have no use for one
20:38 < Genolo> >decent device
20:38 < Genolo> ahahaha
20:38 <+krisk> >green text
20:39 < Genolo> usually when i do that i include the green
20:39 <+krisk> ok thats ironic, my lines are orange in mirc and everybody else's is green
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21:10 < sir_lewk> luls
21:10 < sir_lewk> someone I know actually wants an that apple tablet thing
21:10 < sir_lewk> so much fun to be had
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21:19 <+jr19> bsparks is an apple guy isn't he
21:19 <+jr19> i havent seen him speak about it though, maybe hes at the event
21:19 < bsparks> I can't afford those events
21:19 < bsparks> $1000 per ticket, no way
21:20 < bsparks> So far I am not sold that the "iPad" [ stupidest name ever ] is for someone like me. 3 years ago? I would have bought it in a heartbeat. If nothing else than because it would make it _so_ easy to move my textbooks around.
21:21 < sir_lewk> what the hell?  $1000 to see an advertisement in person?
21:21 < sir_lewk> do they hand out free laptops or something?
21:21 < bsparks> sir_lewk, idk the actual price.
21:21 < sir_lewk> oh
21:21 < bsparks> Only time I ever checked the price was for things like WWDC [ which _is_ over $1000 ]
21:22 < sir_lewk> well if you are paying for it, instead of the other way around, I'd at least expect free swag
21:22 < bsparks> But if you go to WWDC you get things like, a free Nexus One or Droid
21:22 < sir_lewk> hookers and blow kind of swag
21:23 < sir_lewk> http://www.asianfoodgrocer.com/product/10202-kit-kat-kinako-ohagi?&utm_source=012210newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=january+22+2010+5groundshipping
21:23 < sir_lewk> or those
21:24 < bsparks> I could also see being sold on the iPad if down the line they release a copy of xcode that runs ON the iPad for iPhone/Pad/Pod development 
21:24 <@E-J> iSad
21:25 <@E-J> maybe iPad is so miserable because it isn't using any nokia's technology
21:25 < bsparks> it probably is
21:25 < sir_lewk> E-J++
21:25 < bsparks> point to note, I don't think apple has invented anything since the 80's
21:26 < sir_lewk> bsparks: well, they aren't paying for it, if the nokia/apple lawsuits indicate something
21:26 < sir_lewk> I'd kill for an n900 though
21:26 < bsparks> I want an n900 for the box the bloggers got
21:26 <@E-J> bsparks: sounds a little bit like some ms
21:26 < bsparks> E-J, I doubt MS invented anything... ever
21:27 <@E-J> you are maybe right
21:28 < sir_lewk> without a doubt
21:28 < _Digital> surprised that there is no speculation as to the processors inside...
21:28 <@E-J> only invented the way sell bugy software with good price
21:28 <@E-J> _Digital: i think it's powerpc
21:28 < _Digital> that is my first guess
21:29 < bsparks> ARM according to Andy_J, and I am inclined to agree with him
21:29 < bsparks> Seeing how it can run iPhone apps natively 
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21:29 <@Andy_J> uh
21:29 < _Digital> which arm processors though?
21:30 < _Digital> funny how apple got rights to name it themselves
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21:30 <@Andy_J> the whole reason they moved away from powerpc in the first place was because it sucked at power efficiency
21:30 <@E-J> arm according to wikipedia
21:30 < bsparks> ^ Andy_J 
21:30 <@E-J> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPad
21:30 <@Andy_J> _Digital: they bought some group that made procs and designed it in-house
21:30 < bsparks> Andy_J, though, the 1GHz PPC procs never really sucked battery life 
21:30 <@Andy_J> so yeah they get to name it since they made it
21:31 <@E-J> not very fast processor
21:31 < bsparks> 1GHz isn't fast?
21:32 <@Andy_J> it's faster than the 3GS
21:32 <@Andy_J> and is plenty fast especially for an ARM
21:33 <@E-J> 3GS is small phone, that is big compared to that
21:34 < sir_lewk> hmm
21:34 < sir_lewk> pretty sure that tablet pc I played around with a few years ago had a 1GHz proc
21:34 < sir_lewk> mmmm progress
21:34 < bsparks> So... if your physical object is bigger... you need to have a faster processor?
21:35 < bsparks> sir_lewk, bet you ten to one that the tablet you  played with was either an Intel Celeron, or a Transmeta processor. Which _suck_ on battery life
21:35 <@E-J> bsparks: well, i assume you would use it more and it needs to draw more pixels etc
21:35 < sir_lewk> hell if I know, I didn't own it
21:36 <@E-J> but then again i don't know anything about those things so i think i shut my mouth
21:36 < bsparks> they didn't mention any video co-processors, but I'd assume it has one
21:37 <@E-J> just checked that archos 9 has 1.1GHz Atom and my archos 5 800MHz ARM with additional DSP 430MHz
21:37 <@Andy_J> the A4 is a SOC (system-on-a-chip)
21:37 <@Andy_J> it includes a grpahics processor
21:41 < sir_lewk> how much ram does it have?
21:43 < sir_lewk> http://scienceblogs.com/notrocketscience/2010/01/what_colours_were_dinosaur_feathers.php sweet
21:43 < bsparks> Nobody knows
21:43 < bsparks> Also. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPad#Reception I think Laporte said it all.
21:45 < sir_lewk> yes, exactly
21:46 < sir_lewk> I'm currently trolling one of my friends by pretending ignorance and pointing out how cool it is that it at least has those things :)
21:46 < bsparks> :p
21:47 < sir_lewk> the e-ink display was a good one
21:47 < sir_lewk> "so cool that it has a color e-ink display now"  "oh.... it doesn't?  what a shame"
21:48 < bsparks> If nothing else, jailbreakers will be all over this thing and we'll have the iPad [ dubmest name EVER ] doing what we want.
21:48 < sir_lewk> in my defense, he deserves it.  he's pestered me for the past month how the apple tablet will be jesus come back as a computer
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21:49 < bsparks> I knew it wouldn't. I have been saying it will either be awesome like the Newton 2100 was, or just a glorified iPod Touch, leaning towards the iPod side of things. 
21:49 < sir_lewk> whoa, this thing is heavy as hell
21:49 < sir_lewk> 1.5 pounds
21:49 < bsparks> 1.6 with the 3G and GPS units
21:49 <@Andy_J> that isn't bad for the size
21:49 <@Andy_J> and home time
21:49 < sir_lewk> remind me again, how exactly am I supposed to carry this thing around?
21:50 < bsparks> sir_lewk, ever carry around a Kindle?
21:50 < sir_lewk> because at this size and weight, a backpack is pretty mandatory as well
21:50 <@E-J> sir_lewk: one of my friend had in his fb status: "Virallinen tuomio nyt sit: Ehkä hieman pettyneempi kuin oletin olevani. Hieno silti, kilpailijat vuoden-parin päässä. Järisyttäviä appeja tulossa." translation comes after short time
21:50 <+jr19> like a baby
21:50 < sir_lewk> so add the weight of a backpack too
21:50 < sir_lewk> bsparks: another stupid device :)
21:50 < sir_lewk> at least *that* thing has e-ink
21:51 < sir_lewk> 10 hours of reading time sucks ass
21:51 < bsparks> I thought it was 10h of general use
21:51 < sir_lewk> I'm not even entirely sure what they intend on people doing with this thing... or where
21:51 < bsparks> Also, if you are the target market for this, you probably carry a backpack places, or a laptop bag. 
21:52 < sir_lewk> beats me, wikipedia says 10 hours use
21:52 <@E-J> sir_lewk: "Now official verdict: Little more dissapointed that i thought i would be. Still great, competitors are way back year-two. World-shaking apps to come."
21:52 < bsparks> So, in short. You are not the target market. You are just showing how dumb you are. :)
21:52 < sir_lewk> 1month in standby, which I guess is suspend2ram or something
21:52 < sir_lewk> I'm not the target market for lots of things, but I can still see value in them
21:53 < sir_lewk> I'm not the target market for BMWs, but they are still sweet cars.  I'm not even the target market for iphones but I still understand the appeal
21:53 < bsparks> How are you to understand an ebook reader, if you are not the target market? :)
21:53 < sir_lewk> a cellphone with games and a touchscreen.  cool.  I hate cellphones but that's still cool.
21:54 < sir_lewk> no no, I understand the kindle too, but it's the wrong size and I don't trust amazon
21:54 < sir_lewk> the technology in the kindle is awesome, the concept is very solid
21:54 <+jr19> i enjoy my mobile voice and data communications device
21:55 < bsparks> I can see the iPad being a good e-textbook device. Or a nice mobile media device for like, plane travels. 
21:56 < sir_lewk> portable movie player, perhaps, but it doesn't have near the batterylife for an ebook reader
21:56 < sir_lewk> ok, as a portable movie player, this thing would be cool
21:56 < sir_lewk> that's about it
21:56 < bsparks> So you have it to watch movies, and you get an e-mail... 
21:56 < bsparks> Do you whip out the phone or notebook to check the email? :p
21:57 < sir_lewk> I suppose so, I guess it can't do both at once
21:57 < bsparks> No, but it can pause the movie to check the email. 
21:57 < sir_lewk> it only has 16, 32, or 64 GB of storage too, can't fit many movies on that
21:57 <@E-J> will you use that big thing to answer to phone?
21:57 < sir_lewk> you'd have to pick out which you want to watch beforehand
21:58 < bsparks> I am willing to bet netflix streaming will come sooner or later.
21:58 < bsparks> There is already slingbox
21:58 < sir_lewk> yeah, I'd hate to hold a computer to my head to use the phone
21:58 < _Digital> I'd like to see how good video playback in on the iPad
21:58 < sir_lewk> surely it's fine for the size of the display
21:58 < bsparks> 1024x768 is a decent sized screen, especially at 132ppi
21:58 < _Digital> yup
21:58 < Spengo> in colombia
21:59 < Spengo> it is normal part of masturbation for a boy...
21:59 < Spengo> to fuck donkeys
21:59 < sir_lewk> I'd hate to do netflix over 3g though, wouldn't that slam up against your limits hella fast?
21:59 < _Digital> !k Spengo dude, no
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21:59 < Spengo> from 11-17 basically
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21:59 < Spengo> it's true
21:59 < Spengo> :V
21:59 < _Digital> don't care
21:59 < sir_lewk> airplanes, cars, and trains are where that would be most valuable
21:59 < Spengo> colombians are nuts lol
21:59 < sir_lewk> otherwise, just find a tv
22:00 < bsparks> sir_lewk, true, netflix over 3G would hit that 5GB limit quick
22:00 <@E-J> sir_lewk: and you can't use 3g in airplains
22:00 <@E-J> or wlan
22:00 < sir_lewk> streaming movies over wifi from a fileserver would be the only real way to do it
22:00 < _Digital> I have to know someone who gets one, but  my existing videos may be able to play on them
22:00 < bsparks> E-J, uh, you _can_ use wlan
22:00 < Spengo> did you know that in japan, they have doll brothels
22:00 < sir_lewk> E-J: ah, true
22:00 < Spengo> D:
22:01 <@E-J> bsparks: well, some of them allow that
22:01 < sir_lewk> I imagine the bandwidth on planes sucks to much to do netflix, or else not many people actually use it
22:01 < Spengo> I can't decide what's worse, cartoon dolls or donkeys
22:01 <@E-J> finnair even allows using 3g iirc
22:01 < sir_lewk> if it had USB you could just plug in a portable drive but...
22:01 < JoeYoung> Spengo: did you know that in japan, they marry hentai characters?
22:02 < sir_lewk> they marry pillows and shit there
22:02 < sir_lewk> 30 Rock told me so
22:02 < Spengo> lul
22:02 <@E-J> äh, EU allows mobile phones in planes
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22:07 <@chronomex> Spengo: how's the research paper coming?
22:07 < Spengo> research paper?
22:07 <@chronomex> whatever you're looking this shit up for
22:08 < Spengo> oh someone else posted links to me in another channel
22:08 < Spengo> I thought it was lulz
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22:13 < asmand> watching last episode of tonight show with conan
22:15 < sir_lewk> it was pretty good
22:15 < incubus> I'm with coco
22:15 < sir_lewk> I thought conan was going to start crying at once point
22:16 < asmand> I'm surprised that it comes from finnish tv now already
22:16 < asmand> isn't it like just a week ago?
22:17 < sir_lewk> a few days ago
22:17 < sir_lewk> friday night I believe
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22:22 < efneTI92> [Tari] Remember, remember the 5th of November
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22:27 <@E-J> http://images.4chan.org/g/src/1264625390105.png
22:28 <@E-J> sir_lewk: ^
22:28 <@chronomex> sfw?
22:28 <@E-J> yes
22:28 < bsparks> E-J, iPad does have a mic, and games, and USB, and handwriting recognition though
22:28 <@E-J> chronomex: suitable for mactards, no
22:28 <@chronomex> hahhaha nice
22:29 < bsparks> If people are gonna point out flaws in hardware, at least point out _real_ ones ;)
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22:29 <@E-J> bsparks: most of the features are still correct i believe
22:30 < JoeYoung> bsparks: you can't run anything simultaneously, and that's the number one reason why i won't buy it.
22:30 < bsparks> No camera, no flash, I thought it did have stereo speakers, could be wrong, no multitasking, and no HD 
22:30 < _Digital> ssd over hdd
22:30 < bsparks> JoeYoung, until someone jailbreaks it :)
22:30 < _Digital> unless you mean HD video
22:31 < bsparks> _Digital, HDD != HD
22:31 < _Digital> some people say HD instead of HDD
22:31 < bsparks> Some people suck
22:31 < _Digital> but the device does support 720p
22:31 < bsparks> True
22:31 < bsparks> so it does have HD
22:31 < _Digital> yes
22:31 < JoeYoung> If someone jailbreaks it, then I will buy it for one reason and one reason only: osu!
22:31 < _Digital> you fail apple zealot :P
22:38 <@E-J> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smqslH0qw5U
22:41 <@E-J> check posting date of that video
22:43 <@E-J> bsparks: because that thing is 4:3 you could watch movie same time and check that email at that site what is left over ... if it would have multitasking
22:47 < Jonimus> Why do developers think removing multitasking is a good Idea?
22:48 < asmand> I've never seen Conan this serious
22:48 < bsparks> It's a matter of battery life Jonimus 
22:48 < bsparks> my iPod probably has half to a third of the battery life when it's running more than 1 app at once
22:48 < Jonimus> bsparks: make it a bit thinker and add another battery cell issue solved
22:49 < bsparks> "it's too heavy" "it's too thick" etc
22:49 < bsparks> "it costs too much"
22:49 < asmand> with my current situation, there is not a place for an ipad
22:49 < Jonimus> bsparks: well if they made more than one, you could choose between thickness and battery life.
22:50 < asmand> if I'd travel more, sit hours on a train etc, it would be great
22:50 < asmand> kinda like a kindle
22:50 < asmand> only better :P
22:53 <@E-J> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_welfare_in_Nazi_Germany
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