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00:18  * Randomist can't decide whether or not he should split "home" and "var," or just "home," or just leave everything whole.
00:25 <+ports-> hi
00:33 <@nikky> whole, Randomist 
00:35 < tev> Although if you think there's any chance of accidentally filling up the disk on /home (like with really huge temporary files or something) it might be a good idea to make at least that separate from the system to prevent the system from getting screwed up when the /home partition gets full.
00:38 <@Andy_J> the same can be said about a bunch of stuff in /var (especially /var/log)
00:39 <@chronomex> right
00:39 <@chronomex> I usually have 3 slices
00:39 <@chronomex> root about 10g
00:39 <@chronomex> swap about 4g
00:39 <@chronomex> home the rest of the disk
00:39 <@chronomex> in that order
00:39 <@nikky> same
00:40 < tev> I'm thinking about changing my partitioning scheme sometime in the near future. I don't like how config files and such for running programs get corrupted when I accidentally run the disk space out.
00:40 < tev> A lot of programs do *not* handle out-of-space situations as they should.
00:40 <@chronomex> yeah
00:41 < tev> I've even come across programs that just pretend like nothing is wrong and give no error messages--a perfect recipe for data loss.
00:41 <@nikky> Switch to GNOME.
00:41 <@nikky> ;)
00:41 < DrDnar> Some programs are sure to delete their input files when they're done, yet never check to make sure the output is written.
00:41 <@chronomex> <3
00:42 < tev> Well, many CLI programs have this problem, too.
00:42 <@chronomex> many badly-written programs in general
00:46 < tev> I really love programs like dar and DVDisaster, though, which pause when disk space runs out and let you continue once you've done something about it, rather than die and make you start over again.
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00:52 < Randomist> I'm thinking:  sixteen megabyes for "boot," four gigabytes for root and "var," and two gigabytes for swap.
00:53 < Randomist> The rest for "home" on LVM.
00:53 <@Andy_J> er, then saying "root and \"var\"" is redundant
00:53 <@Andy_J> since var is going to end up there by default
00:53 < Randomist> No, no -- four for each.
00:53 <@Andy_J> unless you mean ... that
00:54 <@Andy_J> in which case you missed an "each" :p
00:57 <@chronomex> Randomist: 100M boot, 12G / + /usr
01:07 <+ports-> i hate planning dates
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01:47 < tev> Lame. What is it with my SSH and DCC sessions breaking every few minutes?
01:48 < DrDnar> Are pings not traversing a firewall?
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01:49 < tev> They seem to be stable most of the time, but have extremely little tolerance to brief network congestion or something.
01:49 < tev> IRC is pretty stable, on the other hand.
01:52 < i_c-Y> get a new internet connection :)
01:52 < tev> Well, from what I've seen, I'd be at higher risk of being stuck with a worse one if I did that :-)
01:53 < tev> Maybe something somewhere in the chain likes to drop connections just because they're idle for more than two seconds, because that seems to happen sometimes :-P
01:55 < tev> I'd use autossh, but last time I tried the public key authentication method on ticalc.org, it didn't seem to be supported, just password auth. But autossh is even worse than usless with passwd auth since it just asks for the password again, sometimes like five times in a row even, for no reason.
01:59 <+Genolo> someone ported xchat for iphone
01:59 < bsparks> Genolo, link?
01:59 <+Genolo> http://code.google.com/p/xchat-mobile/
01:59 < bsparks> ty
01:59 <+Genolo> they have svn
02:00 <+Genolo> i'll compile it later
02:00 < bsparks> I still use Colloquy, cause it's not bad. But if xchat is better...
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02:03 < Randomist> Can the iPhone/iPod Touch handle WPA-enterprise/PEAP-MSCHAPv2/username-password-type wireless connections
02:05 < i_c-Y> rtfm
02:06  * Randomist relays that to the person asking him.
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02:13 <@BrandonW> I would imagine so.
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02:17 < JoeYoung> <3 Comcast Blast
02:17 < JoeYoung> Never before have I been able to pirate an entire TV series in hours
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02:19 <@BrandonW> Comcast sucks.
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02:20 < JoeYoung> another thought
02:20 < JoeYoung> I love pastebin
02:20 < JoeYoung> I use it often
02:20 < JoeYoung> but I wonder...
02:21 < JoeYoung> what's the catch? why does the site exist, with the ability to store code forever? there are no ads, what do the site owners get out of it?
02:21 < JoeYoung> do they just run it out of the goodness of their hearts?
02:21 < JoeYoung> :/
02:21 < j-b-r> They get the sotred data, presumably
02:22 < Randomist> It's just text.
02:22 < DrDnar> They secretly sell the code to Microsoft.
02:22 < Randomist> Text can be compressed.
02:22 < j-b-r> I mean, look at all the data social networks get. Look at all the data google gets
02:22 < j-b-r> Text is nothing
02:22 < j-b-r> Imagine how much 1TB of text is
02:22 < j-b-r> I mean, you can fit the entire Bible on a floppy disk, if I remember correctly
02:23 < JoeYoung> A lot, I guess. I doubt I have even a gigabyte of text on all my hdds, even with my IRC logs.
02:23 < j-b-r> 1TB of text.... 1 trillion ASCII characters... average 5 characters per word, 100 words per paragraph
02:23 < j-b-r> That's 2 Billion paragraphs, right?
02:24 < JoeYoung> hrm....
02:24 < JoeYoung> but they still don't GET anything out of it.
02:24 < j-b-r> THey get the text
02:24 < j-b-r> Don't they?
02:24 < Randomist> No, they POST.
02:24 < j-b-r> Is there an agreement made when you upload it?
02:24 < JoeYoung> Not that I know of.
02:24 < j-b-r> Are you certain the site has no adds?
02:25 < j-b-r> Maybe you just have addblock pluss turned on
02:27 < Randomist> Yah.
02:27 < Randomist> They do Google.
02:27 < Randomist> (I think.)
02:28 < JoeYoung> oh, yeah.
02:28 < JoeYoung> haha
02:28 < JoeYoung> I've had adblock so long I completely forgot about it.
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02:28 < j-b-r> hahaha, problem solved
02:28 < JoeYoung> Now I feel dumb
02:28 < j-b-r> Silly you
02:29 < Randomist> "Wait, there are ads on the Internet, now?  When did this happen?"
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02:30 < JoeYoung> Randomist++
02:31 < i_c-Y> Randomist--
02:31 < i_c-Y> Randomist--
02:31 < tev> i_c-Y--
02:31  * tev runs
02:31 < i_c-Y> i_c-Y++
02:31 < i_c-Y> :)
02:32 < Randomist> I wouldn't think it'd let you do yourself.
02:32 < i_c-Y> meh.
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02:33 < i_c-Y> southparkstudios has so many ads these days
02:35 < tev> I hadn't noticed that E-J's stats page had actually updated since last year... but now they're stuck on October.
02:38 < tev> Weird how I'm listed as TravisE... I could have sworn I've never used that nick when first coming to these channels.
02:39 < KermM> i_c-Y>>=1;
02:39 <+doc_who> apparently oracle bought Sun
02:40 <+doc_who> who in turn own mysql..........
02:40 <+doc_who> and this is old news that i just discovered today =X
02:42 < Jonimus> lol
02:45 < KermM> heh
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02:46 < JoeYoung> hey nikky
02:46 < JoeYoung> what services does Freenode have that EFnet lacks?
02:47 < bsparks> none that matter
02:47 < i_c-Y> nickserv, chanserv, etc.
02:47 < JoeYoung> someone's bawwing about it on UTI and I realized I really didn't know that much about IRC networks.......
02:47 < JoeYoung> So I wanted to ask
02:48 < bsparks> JoeYoung, that "someone"'s opinion doesn't matter, if it's who I thought it was
02:49 < JoeYoung> Toksyuryel?
02:49 < bsparks> yeah, his opinion means less than that of ports- here
02:49 < JoeYoung> I've never really heard of this person, but apparently he's been there much longer than I have
02:50 < bsparks> He's been around for ~8 years if you count lurking, and hasn't touched a calculator to program in... well, probably just as long
02:50 < JoeYoung> hrmm
02:51 < bsparks> Point to know about him. If your opinion isn't his. Then your opinion is wrong.
02:51 < bsparks> [ and other assholeries ]
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02:52 <+doc_who> bsparks, i_c-Y ?
02:52 < bsparks> doc_who, what?
02:53 <+doc_who> that who you are talking about?
02:53 < bsparks> ...you have scrollback. USE IT
02:54 <+doc_who> yea but i have joeyoung on ignore so i dont get clogged up with "bleep blorps"
02:54 < Jonimus> well then don't ask ? when you missed half the convo
02:54 < JoeYoung> doc_who took offense to the Jetsons for some reason
02:54 < bsparks> !k doc_who If you are going to ignore users of this chat. Don't bother asking questions.
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02:55 < JoeYoung> and has ignored me ever since
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02:55 < JoeYoung> is sad story, no?
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02:56 <+doc_who> fine i will unignore him
02:56 < JoeYoung> Um, thanks? Don't really care.
02:56 < bsparks> For the record. We were talking about Toksyuryel 
02:56 <+doc_who> oh
02:57 <+doc_who> thats not even on efnet
02:57 < bsparks> ...
02:57 <+doc_who> JoeYoung, yw
02:57 < bsparks> _anyway_
02:57 < bsparks> JoeYoung, that and I suspect he has something against the 9 char nick limit
02:57 <+doc_who> fwiw i_c-Y's opinions dont matter either
02:58 <+doc_who> i doubt he's touched a calc in 8 years as well
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03:01 < i_c-Y> you seem to be under the misguided impression that this is a calculator channel.
03:01 <@BrandonW> Yeah, it's not.
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03:02 < bsparks> This is general tech chat! :D
03:03 < JoeYoung> bsparks: awww, I wanna mock him but that probably wouldn't reflect well on me XD
03:04 < bsparks> JoeYoung, mock who?
03:04 < bsparks> Toks?
03:04 < JoeYoung> Toksy-whatever
03:04 <+doc_who> isnt uti irc down?
03:04 < bsparks> He's on freenode somewhere, and a few other servers
03:04 < bsparks> I mock Toks on a bi-daily basis :)
03:04 < Randomist> EFNet has nine-character limit.  z80-based TI calculators have nine-character limit.  It works.  :P
03:04 < JoeYoung> Nah, I'm not gonna go looking for him
03:05 < JoeYoung> But mock him a little extra for me, kk? ^^
03:05 < bsparks> Nah, I don't wanna get banned by chanops [ not that I would, but better not edge that ]
03:05 <+doc_who> he's on freenode
03:06 <+doc_who> * [Toksyuryel] (n=toksybox@c-71-231-52-36.hsd1.wa.comcast.net): Red Dragon Toksyuryel
03:06 <+doc_who> * [Toksyuryel] #mana #pyfa #polyamory #gentoo-multilib-overlay #gtkevemon #winehq #warzone2100-games #RadeonHD #gentoo-chat #nethack #warzone2100 #bzr #commits #get-e #etk 
03:06 < JoeYoung> goddamn
03:06 < JoeYoung> all those channels on one network?
03:07 < Randomist> JoeYoung:  Well, Genolo is in seventy-two...
03:07 <+Genolo> i cut it down to 68
03:07 < JoeYoung> also, polyamory? XD
03:07 <@BrandonW> Who is Toksy-whatever?
03:08 < Randomist> Some guy on the Internets.
03:08 < bsparks> BrandonW, old 'programmer' from early UTI days
03:08 < JoeYoung> He's the only person openly critical of #ti, apparently
03:08 <+doc_who> BrandonW, a furry i think
03:08 <@BrandonW> What, because it's not on Freenode?
03:08 < bsparks> BrandonW, actually, yeah.
03:08 < JoeYoung> I'm inclined to agree with doc_who, looking at Tok's channel choices
03:08 < bsparks> Because efnet lacks services 
03:08 <@BrandonW> Well, he can suck a lemon.
03:08 < bsparks> JoeYoung, he says he's "otherkin" 
03:08 < bsparks> ¯\(°_o)/¯
03:09 <+doc_who> telroth is a furry too
03:09 <@BrandonW> Only an asshole would refuse an attempt to unite the community because he doesn't like the IRC network.
03:09 < Randomist> Telroth's cool, though.
03:09 < Randomist> Unless he's changed since I last saw him.
03:09 <@BrandonW> That's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard of.
03:09 < bsparks> doc_who, you don't have ground to stand on to say shit about Telroth
03:10 <+doc_who> didnt he admit it?
03:10 <+doc_who> i learned from nikky 
03:10 <+doc_who> he's the best
03:10 < i_c-Y> well, since efnet put chanfix and stuff, its got some services per say.
03:11 < bsparks> But it's not like Toks matters, he isn't a real part of the community anymore
03:11 < JoeYoung> BrandonW: yeah, I called him out on it and he says you guys should make the effort to link some bot network to freenode or something... I didn't really understand it but it's on the forum. i decided not to respond.
03:12 <@BrandonW> Like I said, he can suck a lemon or sit in a corner and cry or whatever.
03:12 < Barrett> how many amps do you think a model train uses?
03:12 < Barrett> er... needs
03:12 <@BrandonW> Anyone that immature shouldn't be in there in the first place.
03:12 < Randomist> Barrett:  Less than two?
03:13 < JoeYoung> meh, well, I won't be critical of him for his other faults because as a former deviantard i have no room to talk
03:13 < Barrett> I have a choice between two USB motor controllers... one does 3A, one does 12... obviously 12 is a lot, but I'm worried the 3 might cut it close... the 12A one is twice as much money as the 3A one
03:14 < JoeYoung> maybe the 12A just to be safe?
03:14 < Randomist> Can't you transform the twelve amps down?
03:14 < Barrett> well, I can give it less if I want it to go slower...
03:15 < Barrett> unless there's a way to maintain voltage while lowering current...
03:15 < JoeYoung> I have this urge to make a model train go as fast as possible.
03:16 < Barrett> which, with my physics knowledge, I believe to not be possible (without changing the device)
03:17 < Barrett> but 3A sounds like a lot... a rack of servers does like 20 amps
03:18 < Barrett> i_c-Y, ?
03:18 < Barrett> here?
03:20 < i_c-Y> maybe.
03:24 < Barrett> do you think a model train (the size that has about 2 inch wide tracks) would use more than 3 amps?
03:25 < i_c-Y> keep putting in more amps till it blows up.
03:25 < Randomist> Then, buy another one, and you will know the limit.  :P
03:26 < i_c-Y> buy atleast 30 for statistical rigor.
03:26 < Barrett> k, smart... also, while you're here... I don't suspect a constant 12 V to get to the train if I put 12V on the tracks (while it's moving and everything... sometimes it may even lose contact for milliseconds)
03:26 < Barrett> is there a safe and easy way to keep that more consistent to some device on the train?
03:26 < Barrett> (like putting a small lead acid battery on it?)
03:27 < Barrett> I think this motor controller is powered by the motor power, not usb power
03:28 < Barrett> so if power goes out, I lose control of the train and hundreds of people die.
03:29 < Randomist> And you have a Hollywood movie.
03:30 < Barrett> what would happen if I connected the ~12V tracks to a small lead acid battery on the train, and connected that straight to the motor controller (which connects to the motor) ?
03:32 < Barrett> (I know you can charge a battery by connecting a simple 12-13.5V DC to it, but what does that do, exactly?)
03:34 < Randomist> Have you tried asking the Great Google?
03:35 < Barrett> engineering people are even more stubborn than linux people when it comes to helping people
03:36 < Barrett> (so there's no information on google)
03:37 < Randomist> Well, someone had to break their backs writing those manual pages.  :P
03:37 < Barrett> true.. but those seem to be written for people who already know everything contained in them
03:38 < Barrett> "I'm just writing this so it looks like there's documentation"
03:39 < Randomist> Want to take a look though Memcoder or Wireshark?  :P
03:39 < Randomist> * Mencoder
03:42 < bsparks> Why did I pick HP... seriously... :/ stupidest netbook decision EVER
03:42 < i_c-Y> well you are the stupidest person here, so...
03:42 < incubus> What about me
03:43 < incubus> wait nm bsparks draws shit on his walls
03:43 < incubus> that's fairly accurate
03:43 < bsparks> I can draw on my walls. They're MY walls
03:43 < incubus>     ^   My point
03:44 < i_c-Y> Barrett: theres a little circuit in The Art of Electronics by horowitz and hill in the section on diodes which you can try.
03:45 < Barrett> is this book online?
03:45 < i_c-Y> or, you can run power on the tracks like the trains on the east coast - overhead power lines.
03:45 < Barrett> I don't know if I'd make it well enough to get more consistent contact than the wheels on the track
03:45 < Randomist> I hate when I think I've made up a word, and then I Google it to make sure, and it turns up a few thousand results.
03:46 < Jonimus> Barrett: could a simple capacitor setup work in place of the battery?
03:47 < Barrett> I'm terrified of capacitors
03:47 < i_c-Y> people have pdf's / djvu's but if you're using a battery, its just a diode or gate type thing.
03:50 < i_c-Y> http://www.maxim-ic.com/app-notes/index.mvp/id/42 - look at the diagrams at the bottom of the page. (b) is probably a good choice.
03:52 < i_c-Y> but you'll need a fairly large capacitor - you may just want to do the battery thing. 
03:52 < i_c-Y> anyhow, horowitz is in every engineering, physics departments probalby in the world at this point - look in your library or something.
03:53 < incubus> LOL
03:53 < incubus> .1F? Damn
03:54 < Randomist> And in a tenth of a degree, Fahrenheit?
03:54 < Randomist> * As in,
03:55 < i_c-Y> i didnt say use the values in that thing - the MAX690 is a chip for making sure microprocessors have good power.
03:55 < Barrett> are you serious, Randomist?
03:56 < Randomist> I don't know.  It's not my fault he didn't use Unicode if that was supposed to be something else.  :P
03:56 < Barrett> he's talking about capacitors
03:56 < Barrett> F == Farad
03:56 < i_c-Y> Farad, dumbass. how the hell did you get out of highschool?
03:58 < Randomist> I would have recognized a µF or a pF or an nF.  :P
03:58 < i_c-Y> anyhow, Barrett ,f the ttrain is out of contact for milliseconds, once its going, i dont think it will be an issue if it cuts out for a few milliseconds every once in a while. if its happening regularly then you should put in a better power system.
03:58 < Barrett> k, the issue here is in the motor controller... you think it'd be fine for a few milliseconds without power?
03:59 < Barrett> I'm not really planning out the inverter->laptop stuff yet, but that will also be an issue
03:59 < Barrett> (not because of uptime, but because of potential damage to the netbook's power supply)
04:00 < Barrett> http://www.pololu.com/catalog/product/1393
04:00 < Barrett> that's the motor controller I'm looking at
04:00 < Barrett> there's another one for half the price that does the same thing, but is only rated for 3 amps
04:03 <@nikky> I'm with mokomull, chronomex, and jman
04:03 <@nikky> and they're blabbing about doublr pointers
04:03 <@nikky> ?????
04:03 < JoeYoung> bwahahaha
04:04 < JoeYoung> hi nikky :)
04:04 < Randomist> Nikky is awesome.
04:05 < i_c-Y> what a bunch of losers.
04:06 < bsparks> "I'm Drunk of Borg, Resistance is floor tile." is far funnier than it needs to be. Discuss 
04:07 < JoeYoung> Hrmm, is it possible to get drunk with those nanites?
04:07 < Randomist> I disagree to agree.
04:09 <+doc_who> deus ex?
04:09 < JoeYoung> Drunk Borg: "Resilience is floor tile. Wan'be sim'lated?"
04:09 < bsparks> JoeYoung, I don't know.
04:10 < JoeYoung> Futile, resistance is.  Yoda of Borg
04:10 < JoeYoung> I! am! Kirkutus! of! Borg! Prepare! to! be! assimilated!
04:10 < JoeYoung>  XD
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04:11 < JoeYoung> Screw the Prime Directive...give the Borg a copy of Windows!
04:12 < JoeYoung> We have engaged the Borg.  The wedding will be Friday.
04:12 < JoeYoung> I am loving these
04:13 < bsparks> We are Borg, Resistance is- *fitz* We are Borg, Resistan- *fitz* We ar- *fitz*
04:13 < bsparks> BSOD
04:13 < bsparks> Borg Screen of Death >_>
04:14 < JoeYoung> I am Mr. T of Borg.  I pity da fool that resists me.
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04:15 < bsparks> I am Steve of Borg. Resistance is DOS
04:15 < JoeYoung> Only YOU can prevent futility. Smokey the Borg
04:15 < bsparks> hahaha
04:15 < bsparks> In Soviet Russia, Borg resist YOU!
04:16 < JoeYoung> The Borg assimilated my race and all I got was this t-shirt.
04:16 < JoeYoung> haha ^^
04:17 < bsparks> I am Kevin of Borg, JUST FUCKIN ASSIMILATE 
04:18 < JoeYoung> WIN
04:18 < JoeYoung> bwahahaha
04:18 < Randomist> bsparks++
04:18 < JoeYoung> bsparks++
04:18 < JoeYoung> Beats mine.
04:18 < JoeYoung> Borg starter kit. Some assimilation required.
04:18 < JoeYoung> also
04:18 < JoeYoung> http://www.omnimaga.borg
04:19 < i_c-Y> ...
04:19 < Randomist> Hope for Borg; assimilate for change.
04:20 < JoeYoung> The economy is irrelevant - Bush Borg
04:22 < JoeYoung> Actually,now I'm wondering.
04:23 < JoeYoung> Do the borg have memes? Or are they too close a collective?
04:24 < Jonimus> Yes, but all borg memes and be assimilated into one.
04:24 < Jonimus> I'd picture the meme density xkcd but ten times worse.
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04:28 < JoeYoung> One Borg: ffbf:e30f
04:28 < masterkid> Alrighty then well i need some help, i need a simple counting program where evertime you press enter it counts up one and if you press a bottom it will quit to the main menu or to the home screen. i have a basic code, i just cant get the program to quit, and i kno im doing something wrong with the getkey fuction
04:28 < JoeYoung> masterkid, go to #ti
04:28 < masterkid> k thanks
04:28 < masterkid> join #ti
04:28 < masterkid> woops
04:29 < JoeYoung> woo, first referal and he botched it.
04:29 < Randomist> s:join:assimilate:  #:P
04:29 < JoeYoung> One Borg: ffbf:e30f
04:29 < JoeYoung> Other Borg: hurr-hurr, you said ffbf:e30f
04:30 < JoeYoung> *Every Borg in existence starts snickering*
04:30 < JoeYoung> Borg Meme
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04:54 < Randomist> Blegh.
04:54  * Randomist ponders whether he might want to use Gentoo on his server.
04:55 < i_c-Y> lol gentoo
04:55 < i_c-Y> if its a server, centos.
04:55 < Randomist> Either way, I'm gonna have to compile stuff without X.
04:55 < i_c-Y> what is it serving?
04:55 < Randomist> Shell accounts, Samba, HTTP(S).
04:55 < i_c-Y> just run centos
04:56 < Randomist> Oh, and CUPS/HPLIP.
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05:02 < i_c-Y> seriously though
05:02 < i_c-Y> someone should go and hunt down everyone involved with gentoo
05:02 < i_c-Y> and exterminate them.
05:03 <+Netham45> I know somebody who knows somebody who knows one of the devs
05:03 < Jonimus> i_c-Y: why are you so anti-gentoo
05:03 < Randomist> I know someone who's an ex-dev.
05:03 < KermM> gentoo is epic fail
05:03 < i_c-Y> Netham45: good - start the operation.
05:03 < i_c-Y> Jonimus: cause its useless.
05:03 <+Netham45> The devs name is shallax or something
05:03 < KermM> I don't think the extra 12 FLOPS I'm going to get from conpiling my kernel is going to make a difference
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05:04 < KermM> s/con/com/
05:04 < i_c-Y> KermM: it doesn't matter because THE SYSTEM WONT WORK ANYWAY
05:04 <+Genolo> gentoo is good to learn stuff i hear
05:04 < Randomist> The only nice thing about it is if you want an X-less machine, because you can compile things that other distros like to make pull in graphical dependencies without those.
05:04 < i_c-Y> because package a blocked package b which blocked package c which blocked package a
05:05 < i_c-Y> Randomist: theres a simple way for this
05:05 < KermM> i_c-Y, welcome to why I spent two days just to update the eight cluster machines to a new scheduler algorithm
05:05 < KermM> argh, I must be tired
05:05 < KermM> i_c-Y, what machine are you working with?
05:05 < i_c-Y> ready, ready? /opt. or use whatever build tools are on that system - contrary to popular believe, .spec files exist, 
05:06 < KermM> lol
05:06 < i_c-Y> right now? nothing - my desktop is a centos box thoguh. im just making general gentoo commentary. 
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05:06 < Jonimus> i_c-Y: what are your feelings on Arch then?
05:06 < KermM> i_c-Y, fair enough
05:07 < i_c-Y> Jonimus: i know you're an arch user, so i hate arch users.
05:07 < KermM> I have CentOS cluster edition on Brainguy1, btw; just need to wait for Deian to finish pwning the rest of the nodes with his program so I can wipe them all, install CentOS, and get all the Matlab and MPI tools on there
05:07 < Randomist> I have to do some craziness to get Centos' default kernel to boot up on this machine.
05:07 <+Genolo> i_c-Y: i use arch too now what are your feelings
05:08 < i_c-Y> i hate arch users even more now.
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05:08 < KermM> Randomist, why?
05:08 < i_c-Y> its an old kernel.
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05:08 < i_c-Y> centos gives you no surprises on your software - everything has to be stable
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05:15 < Barrett> just today I decided that I'm going with debian from now on...
05:16 < Barrett> for this very reason
05:16 < Jonimus> i really should move my server over to something other than Arch, its annoying to have to worry about updates on it, I really regret that decision atm
05:16 < Barrett> it actually has a somewhat current version of php (yes, I know you can get a newer one on centos, but it's a pain)
05:17 <+Genolo> oh hey i unintentionally fixed amarok
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05:17 < Jonimus> and woo the open source ATI drivers now have some basic Dynamic PM for the r6xx/7xx cards so my battery life is once again rival to windows
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05:20 < i_c-Y> Barrett: centosplus?
05:21 < Barrett> I only see that for centos 4
05:21 < i_c-Y> anyhow, if you're running production, you generally dont want to run the latest and greatest php.
05:22 < i_c-Y> its there on centos 5 as well 
05:22 < Barrett> well, there are some major features that have been available for at least a year that still aren't available on centos's default PHP
05:22 < Barrett> (json encoding and decoding, for example)
05:22 < Barrett> and more recently, better support for anonymous functions
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05:25 < Randomist> * Centos'  </petpeeve>
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05:26 < Barrett> both are acceptable, Randomist 
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05:56 < obnauticu> KermM_ you there?
06:09 < obnauticu> i_c-Y you there either?
06:09 < obnauticu> lol
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08:10 <@chronomex> I'm updating the ticalc.org twitter friends
08:10 <@chronomex> anyone know a staff twitter handle? let me know
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10:00 <@chronomex> actually we don't even use CVS
10:00 <@chronomex> we use RCS
10:02 <@chronomex> :O
10:04 <@E-J> tev: there is small bug at stats which i need to repair and that's why they haven't updated
10:11 <@chronomex> apparently the workflow for converting RCS into Git is rather complex
10:11 <@chronomex> you have to create a CVS repository with the appropriate directory structure
10:11 <@chronomex> then manually alter the CVS repository and copy in the RCS version files
10:11 <@chronomex> then you can convert to Git
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10:13 < debrouxl> You can convert CVS to SVN (cvs2svn does that very well) and then use Git to access SVN (Git has always had good SVN support).
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11:03 <@chronomex> here we go
11:03 <@chronomex> git cvsimport blah blah blah
11:11 < debrouxl> Last time I checked that, it didn't work the way I wanted it to. May you be more successful than I was :)
11:13 <@chronomex> :D got it
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11:19 <@chronomex> and I made sure to log what I did so that I could do it again :)
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13:17 < tr1p1ea> Everything was fine, until Longcat broke the universe.
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13:32 < DSP_Lord> i'm starting to think you don't like cats, tr1p1ea :<
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15:58 < i_c-Y> blah.
16:09 < bsparks> I'm starting to think tr1p1ea doesn't like #ti
16:13 <@E-J> tr1p1ea walks his own way
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16:34 < geekboy_> JoeYoung:   how would you solve this ?? http://www.omnimaga.org/index.php?topic=1379.msg19188#msg19188
16:35 < JoeYoung> I wouldn't, because Omnimaga is off-limits to me.
16:35 < geekboy_> oh right randomness
16:35 < geekboy_> :(
16:36 < geekboy_> http://pastebin.com/m2eed5cbe
16:36 < geekboy_> yay 4 pastebin
16:37  * geekboy_ just cant make heads or tails of it X.x
16:38 < JoeYoung> um, what is it?
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16:38 < JoeYoung> the meaning is lost without the context of the topic...
16:38 < geekboy_> umm solve it it is a 
16:38 < geekboy_> like ouzzle thing
16:38 < geekboy_> *p
16:39 < JoeYoung> ...
16:39 < geekboy_> http://pastebin.com/m5e191704
16:39 < geekboy_> there
16:39 < JoeYoung> for a puzzle you need an objective :/
16:39 < geekboy_> well its  a hiddem messages coded our object is to crack it by weeks end  :/
16:40 < JoeYoung> who posted it?
16:40 < bsparks> also, where ate the said 'other versions'
16:40 < geekboy_> Hot_dog
16:40 < JoeYoung> it's complete bullshit, tbh
16:40 < geekboy_> lol
16:40 < geekboy_> umm there farther in teh topic bsparks
16:41 < JoeYoung> codes are worthless unless there is a rule or standards to follow.
16:41 < geekboy_> do you want me to link them (pastie/pastebin ??)
16:41 < bsparks> From what I can understand, the whole point of this "code" geekboy_, is to compare one version to the other versions. 
16:41 < bsparks> But idk
16:41 < JoeYoung> it wouldn't matter how many versions he makes, with no hint as to how it was encoded, it's unsolveable and worthless to everyone.
16:42 < geekboy_>  To a certain point, a number in a column (not in the bottom) means what word the letter/number/puncuation falls into
16:42 < geekboy_>  if you have XEJ3C, whatever the column translates into, it's in the 3rd word
16:42 < geekboy_> thats teh only clue he gave
16:42 < geekboy_> to me last night after i badgered hime
16:42 < JoeYoung> hell, i can bang randomly on the keyboard for thirty seconds and tell everyone it's a secret code.
16:42 < bsparks> I think he just ... ^
16:43 < geekboy_> lol
16:43 < JoeYoung> see, it doesn't matter once you take the proper steps in solving it.
16:43 < JoeYoung> The first question is, "Why do we care?"
16:44 < geekboy_> idk
16:44 < JoeYoung> The second, "Is it really worth it?"
16:44 < JoeYoung> The third, "Isn't there something better to do?"
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16:45 < JoeYoung> If you answered "YES" to that last question, your problem is satisfied, even if the code isn't. But who cares about that, hey? Not you!
16:45 < geekboy_> http://pastie.org/791342   and yes there probally is
16:45 < geekboy_> lol
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16:46 < JoeYoung> so, yeah....
16:46 < JoeYoung> stop posting that encrypted BS here ^^
16:46 < geekboy_> ok
16:51 < JoeYoung> :P
16:52 < geekboy_> hmm i wonder when ace will come one :? (cant remember his full name ) hes the guy working on wabbit for me XD
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17:31 <@E-J> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5Ogfd9h0FA
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17:54 <+jr19> raining and windy in iowa...feels like spring
17:55 < geekboy_> sunny and cold in jersey feels like winter :(
17:58 <@E-J> geekboy_: how cold?
17:58 < geekboy_> idk
17:58 < geekboy_> havent been outside
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17:59 < geekboy_> but its supposed to be over 40 today i think so its better than normal
17:59 <@E-J> i was, it wasn't bad, just something like -15C
17:59 < geekboy_> ouch
17:59 < geekboy_> i cant stand that unless there is no wind X.x
17:59 < geekboy_> i can barely stand 40 with wind
18:00 < geekboy_> so you win *tips hat*
18:00 <@E-J> 40F is normal temp here at spring and autumn
18:01 < geekboy_> where you live alaska ?
18:01 <+jr19> its about 40F here
18:02 <+jr19> but windy and rainy...like spring
18:02 < DrDnar> 43 here
18:04 <@E-J> geekboy_: no where near alaska, in finland
18:04 <@E-J> nowhere*
18:04 < geekboy_> lol 
18:04 < geekboy_> nice
18:05 <+jr19> almost 40F in alaska too
18:05 <@E-J> eastern parts of this country had last night temps below -30
18:05 <+jr19> thats not raelly that unusual for some parts though
18:07 <+jr19> anyway i gotta go, bbl
18:07 <@E-J> http://www.fmi.fi/weather/local.html?place=Juuka some might say that it was warm in juuka at 14 ot 16
18:07 <@E-J> to*
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20:20 <+Genolo> !quoteurl
20:20 <+Genolo> hm
20:21 <+Genolo> http://tcpa.aardy.net/quotes/
20:21 <+Genolo> is that the right url
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20:25 <+Netham45> Genolo, it's down
20:26 < azrael666> morning all
20:26 <+Genolo> did aardvarq die?
20:26 <+Netham45> Genolo, it's possible.
20:27 <+Netham45> there has been a weird smell coming from that corner of the chan
20:27 <@BrandonW> But then again, aardvarq always smells that way.
20:27 <@Andy_J> probably
20:27 <+Netham45> lol
20:27 <@Andy_J> nobody at epfarms ever responds anymore
20:27 < Randomist>  Insert "Ghost in the Z-Shell" reference here.
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20:29 < azrael666> ...
20:30 <+Genolo> hi azrael666, rcfreak0
20:30 <+rcfreak0> hi Genolo 
20:31 < azrael666> greetings
20:33 <+Netham45> heh
20:33 <+Netham45> all but 3 of the "featured listings" on epfarms.org are placeholders
20:33 < azrael666> andomist
20:33 <+Netham45> and one of those 3 is their link back to epfarms.org
20:33 < azrael666> how do i get to the music files
20:33 < azrael666> Randomist
20:34 < Randomist> azrael666:  They're not on the server yet.
20:34 < azrael666> damn
20:34 < azrael666> thanks
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20:34 < azrael666> i tried a while ago and it bitched at me
20:34 < azrael666> get them on there would you?
20:35 < azrael666> and get some seether while your at it please
20:35 < azrael666> all of seethers stuff
20:42 <+Genolo> sigh
20:42 <+Genolo> why is youtube such a turd
20:42 <+Genolo> i can't login with the password i know is right
20:43 <+Genolo> so i reset it
20:43 <+Genolo> AND I STILL CAN'T LOG IN
20:43 <+Genolo> and then it says "I call shenanigans"
20:44 < Randomist> Since when has YouTube  **not** been a turd?
20:49 <+Genolo> http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj182/Obsidian_Serpent/YoutubeIsConfusing.png
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21:02  * azrael666 sighs
21:03 < azrael666> Randomist: how goes the music downloading?
21:04 < Randomist> Still `rsync`-ing.
21:04 < azrael666> how about the seether?
21:05 < Randomist> It hasn't made it that far, yet.
21:05 < azrael666> and no way to speed it up?
21:06 < Randomist> Nope.  I'm limited by how fast the server can `rsync` from my backup drive.
21:06 < azrael666> damn
21:07 < azrael666> would you happen to have pain pills Randomist?
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21:19 < sir_lewk> junkie
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21:23 <+ports-> is there an Eric Anderson in TCPA?
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21:31 < i_c-Y> we have lance bass anderson, dont know about an eric anderson
21:31 < i_c-Y> (thats Barrett )
21:31 <+ports-> theres barrett anderson
21:31 <+ports-> but im friends with some kid on facebook.. Eric Anderson.. and hes 3 years older than me.. we never went to the same school..
21:31 <+ports-> so i dont know how i know him.. we dont have any friends in common.. i figured he might be from here.. hes a programmer and mac person
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21:34 <+ports-> http://ericanderson.us/
21:35 < Netham45> he's a douchebag.
21:36 <+ports-> why is he a dbag?
21:38 < Netham45> "Eric Anderson -noun 1. a software engineer team lead 2. someone obsessed with software architecture 3. an avid mac lover 4. a blogger"
21:38 <@E-J> i assume he is this http://www.ticalc.org/cgi-bin/acct-view.cgi?userid=39050
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21:39 <+Genolo> oh
21:40 <+Genolo> it's because he uses a mac
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22:10 <+ports-> E-J, its possible... but he uses "86" in his usernames... the ericanderson.us guy was born in 83
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22:26 <+ports-> can someone help me find some cheap headphones?
22:27 < i_c-Y> what style?
22:28 < i_c-Y> without that knowledge, my rec's are the sennheiser hd202's, jvc gummy/marshmallow's, koss ksc 75's.
22:28 <+ports-> lol
22:28 <+ports-> im just looking for some cheap ones.. the kind that clip behind your ear
22:28 < i_c-Y> ksc 75
22:28 < i_c-Y> 10 dorras.
22:28 <+ports-> the in-ear ones fall out of my ear when im running
22:28 <+ports-> badass
22:28 < i_c-Y> https://www.koss.com/koss/kossweb.nsf/p?openform&pc%5Esc%5EKSC75
22:28 <+ports-> thanks.  
22:29 <+ports-> i kept finding similar ones at $19.99 + shipping
22:29 < i_c-Y> they're listed as 20 but i bought them for 10 bucks
22:29 < i_c-Y> on amazon a few years back
22:29 < i_c-Y> they're the best value thoguh for headphones in that style 
22:29 <+ports-> $15 on amazon now
22:30 < i_c-Y> not a bad deal still.
22:30 <+ports-> weird..  i hate this about amazon.. they list the same item multiple times.. since they let other people sell through them.. and all the prices vary
22:30 < i_c-Y> but they have good sound and are pretty cheap overall.
22:31 <+ports-> http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-RP-HS43-Clip-Headphones-System/dp/B0001IXUEE/ref=pd_cp_e_2_img - are those any good?
22:31 <+ports-> tehy end up being a similar price because the others cost shippinh
22:33 < i_c-Y> ksc 75 are the only ones worth buying.
22:33 < i_c-Y> ksc35 is better if you can find them, but pricier and stuff. so i go with the 75
22:33 <+ports-> ok
22:34 <+ports-> ill add them to my cart
22:34 < i_c-Y> though neither will survive being run over by a truck. jus tsomething to note.
22:34 <+ports-> lol, personal experience?
22:34 < i_c-Y> yes.
22:34 <+ports-> i need $10 to pad my cart
22:34 < i_c-Y> theres also something called "Kramer's mod" which is a nice thing to do but some work. 
22:35 < i_c-Y> essentially, the foam dulls out some treble - if you cut some of it out, they become much better, but they're pretty good to begin with
22:36 <+ports-> i gotta find a cheap 2-8gb mp3 player
22:37 < i_c-Y> sansa fuze / sansa clip is good choice
22:37 <+ports-> i have a sansa
22:38 <+ports-> but i lent my 8gb to my brother inlaw.. to take with him to India for the flight
22:38 <+ports-> http://www.amazon.com/Sandisk-Sansa-Clip-Player-Black/dp/B001JIDEXW
22:38  * nikky elects ports- "the most boring person alive"
22:38 < i_c-Y> you you could probably find it cheaper.
22:39 <+ports-> i_c-Y, i got it for $50 on clearance at walmart.
22:39 <+ports-> nikky, why?
22:39 <@chronomex> nikky: what do you say to replacing web{edit|preview|etc}.sh with a Makefile and a git repository?
22:40 < i_c-Y> the new sansa clip+ is is kinda nice given it has a card slot. but im happy with my fuze.
22:40 < i_c-Y> 50 dollars for 8GB is good i suppose.
22:40 <+ports-> i_c-Y, it was a year ago.. im just looking for something thats like 2gb at the least.. and has FM radio... something to run with.. my ipod is bulky and doesnt have FM
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22:41 <@nikky> chronomex: um, what are those?
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22:41 <+ports-> i_c-Y, im ordering this.. http://www.amazon.com/Coby-MP305-4G-Player-Flash-Memory/dp/B00134VVKU/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1264286443&sr=1-3
22:41 <@chronomex> nikky: makes editing the website easier
22:42 <@nikky> oh
22:42 <@nikky> I use ed
22:42 <@chronomex> I know
22:42 < i_c-Y> Coby stuff is usually pretty bad these days.
22:42 <+ports-> i_c-Y, and it takes batteries.. meh
22:44 < i_c-Y> if you want something in that form factor, i suppose the sansa express works, but ive never used it.
22:45 <+ports-> i miss my dell jukebox 5gb..
22:45 < i_c-Y> you can get a 1 gig one for like 20 bucks and you probably have a microsd ard laying around that you cna stick in. 
22:45 <+ports-> that thing was cool till the screen died on it..  the internal memory was just a 5gb CF form microdrive
22:46 <+ports-> its expandable?
22:46 <+ports-> oh cool
22:47 <+ports-> thanks for the help i_c-Y im going to order the 2gb sansa express and the ksc 75s
22:48 < i_c-Y> but it looks like a clip is a better product than the express
22:48 < i_c-Y> no problem.
22:48 <+ports-> teh 1gb is $20+ shipping.... the 2gb is $26 with FS.. might as well
22:50 <+ports-> i have a spare 2gb microsd... so thatll give me 4gb.. plenty 
22:52 < i_c-Y> bbl, going to go buy some grocceries.
22:53 <+ports-> i_c-Y, http://www.mwave.com/mwave/SKUSearch_v3.asp?px=FO&scriteria=3731568 - any good?
22:53 <+ports-> ok
22:54 < i_c-Y> its 5 dollars. doesnt buy you anything worth listening to. maybe if you need something for like 5 minutes of listening occasionally , but not for music or extended use. the cheapest headphonees to consider that are over/on the ear are Sennheiser HD201 / 202  @ 20 dollars ish
22:54 <+ports-> k.. those would be pretty hard to run with
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22:55  * Randomist is trying to work out configuring Postfix.
22:57 <+Neff> do all TI graphing calcs use 4-AA batteries?
22:57 <+ports-> AAA , yep
22:57 <+Neff> err yeah
22:57 <+ports-> there was like some 82 that used the watch batteries.. not anymore
22:58 <+Neff> someone told me they use USB power to power their calc
22:58 < bsparks> I do
22:58 <+Neff> oh yeah
22:58 <+Neff> so i was thinking
22:59 <+ports-> i think people modded it to do that in the past.. its not a regular feature afaik
22:59 <+Neff> it wouldn't be that hard to build a usb port into the calc would it
22:59 <+Neff> a little mini USB port
22:59 <+ports-> Neff, probably not
23:00 < bsparks> Nope, I was gonna do that to my battery cover eventually 
23:00 <+Neff> well i don't want to do it to the cover
23:00 <+ports-> theres some good modders in here
23:00 <+Neff> well maybe i could do it to the cover
23:00 < bsparks> Where else would you do it?
23:00 <+Neff> down by the data port
23:01 < bsparks> There's some room there, yeah
23:01 <+Neff> i saw an AC adapter mod once down there
23:01 < bsparks> You'd also need a switch
23:01 < bsparks> KermM is kind of adding PS/2 ports there
23:01 <+Neff> if you connect to the end-most terminals does that feed the voltage in?
23:02 <+Neff> like if i directly wired into the terminals
23:02 <+Neff> or do i need more wiring 
23:02 < bsparks> yeah, if you open up the calc you can actually see where the contacts are touching the main boar
23:02 < bsparks> they aren't soldered to it
23:06 < Randomist> Neff:  Except for:  http://wintervenom.brandonw.net/Photos/Electronics/Ghetto%2083+%20-%20Rear%20View.jpg
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23:07 < bsparks> Randomist, that does NOT count
23:07 <+Neff> what's that?
23:07 < Randomist> :)
23:07 <+Neff> lol
23:07 <+Neff> i think i might just use rechargable batteries
23:07 <+Neff> and use my emulator when i don't need to do quick operations
23:08 <+Neff> :P
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23:20 < azrael666>  ...
23:25 < bsparks> what's your problem?
23:26 < azrael666> wh ome?
23:26 < azrael666> im lost
23:26 < azrael666> and i just got back
23:26 < azrael666> which explains WHY im lost
23:27 < bsparks> Not really
23:27 < bsparks> Scrollback exists for a reason
23:27 < geekboy> bsparks any place i can get a picture of a hand made msd8x usb cable i cant find any X.x
23:27 <@efneTI86> Hi
23:28 < azrael666> well im just lazy
23:29 < bsparks> Laziness has no place here.
23:29 < azrael666> ok...
23:29 < azrael666> well then let me figure out how to scroll
23:31 < azrael666> ok...
23:31 < azrael666> still lost. oh well
23:33 <+Genolo> what's a good tiny linux distro
23:33 <+Genolo> that isn't puppy or dsl
23:33 <@chronomex> dsl
23:33 < bsparks> hah
23:33 <+Genolo> .....:p
23:33 <+Genolo> this comp has 192mb ram
23:33 <@chronomex> and?
23:33 <+Genolo> 12GB HD
23:33 <+Neff> are there good emulators for TI-84 plus
23:33 < azrael666>  think u have more than me
23:34 < geekboy> yeah wabbit
23:34 <+Genolo> and i'm looking for something to put on it
23:34 < geekboy> tinycorelinux
23:34 <+Genolo> it runs puppy right now
23:34 < geekboy> its 10 megs XD
23:34 < bsparks> Neff, perhaps #ti might also be of good service to you. :)
23:35 <+Genolo> hm
23:35 < geekboy> Genolo out snifit back up
23:36 <+Genolo> i'm too lazy to type in the url
23:36 <+Genolo> with the password and sucj
23:36 <+Genolo> such*
23:37 <+Genolo> make pieguy do it i gave him the password
23:37 < geekboy> give it to me XD
23:37 <+Genolo> that would require me to type in the url
23:38 <+Genolo> :(
23:38 < geekboy> :/
23:38 < geekboy> its genolo.nvm2u right ?
23:38 < geekboy> *.com
23:38 <+Genolo> it's on there
23:39 < Netham45> hmm
23:39 < Netham45> interesting
23:39 < Netham45> you can resize the system partition on Windows 7
23:39 < Netham45> without even rebooting
23:39 <@E-J> Genolo: what about gentoo?-)
23:40 <@E-J> i think i installed gentoo to 192M RAM computer
23:40 <@E-J> took at least a week
23:40 < Netham45> I had Ubuntu on an Xbox
23:40 < Netham45> 64MB of RAM
23:41 <+Genolo> i had xubuntu on this once
23:41 <+Genolo> it was really slow
23:41 <@E-J> Netham45: well ubuntu didn't work on that computer
23:41 < Netham45> DSL worked the best for me
23:41 <@E-J> it was pentium mmx 233
23:41 < Netham45> Xbox is a 733MHz Celeron
23:41 <@E-J> i needed to do it so that my mother could use it, so dsl wasn't option
23:41 <@E-J> or puppy
23:42 <+Genolo> you're mother can use gentoo?
23:42 <+Genolo> er
23:42 <+Genolo> your*
23:42 < Netham45> You must hate her if you're giving her a Pentium. :P
23:42 <@E-J> Genolo: yes, with xfce
23:42 <+Genolo> smart mother
23:42 <@E-J> Netham45: it was her old computer, had win98 before and now she needed system with usb support
23:42 <+Genolo> mine can't even get on the internet
23:43 <+Genolo> HOW DOES I GO TO MY WEBSITE
23:43 < geekboy> genolo does it support ethernet
23:43 <+Genolo> does what
23:43 <+Genolo> this desktop?
23:43 < geekboy> if so use tinycore if not DONT use tiny core 
23:43 <@E-J> Genolo: with help and good nervs everything is possible
23:43 < geekboy> the laptop
23:43 < geekboy> oh wait nvm just re read that
23:43 <+Genolo> i'm installing it on a desktop
23:44 < geekboy> hmm try tiny core then
23:44 <@E-J> but now sleep ->
23:44 < geekboy> you need to install every thing manually cept a xvesa server
23:44 < geekboy> it comes with a gui its great
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23:45 < geekboy> http://tinycorelinux.com/  <-- there ya go genolo XD
23:46 < geekboy> although you do need a live cd to boot it
23:46 < bsparks> I say just use MenuetOS 
23:46 < geekboy> never heard of it
23:46 < bsparks> :o
23:46 < geekboy> link >
23:46 < geekboy> '?
23:46 < bsparks> http://www.menuetos.net/
23:47 < bsparks> it used to be labled the "floppy disk OS"
23:47 < geekboy> nice
23:47 < geekboy> i could use that on my desktop
23:48 < geekboy> although how fast does it boot
23:48 < geekboy> record for tinycore oon my computer is ~30 seconds with bios
23:48 < bsparks> idk, I never timed it
23:48 <@Andy_J> the floppd disk would probably be the limiting factor by far ;)
23:48 < geekboy> ah
23:48 < bsparks> but it was pretty fast, for being a floppy drive
23:48 < geekboy> yeah 
23:48 < bsparks> It booted slower than my Mac Plus used to, I know that
23:48 < geekboy> i installed arch on my desktop the other day
23:49 < Netham45> hmm
23:49 < geekboy> im happy 
23:49 < Netham45> anyone know if I can get android on my BlackJack II?
23:49 < geekboy> needs a floppy to boot though :/
23:49 < bsparks> Andy_J, you're a genius. Is the Atom 64 or 32 bit?
23:50 < bsparks> or are there variants?
23:50 < Netham45> mine is 32-bit
23:50 <@Andy_J> seems it depends on the specific one
23:50 < bsparks> hmm
23:50 < bsparks> wonder if I got lucky..
23:50 <@Andy_J> looks like N and Z are x86, whatever else there is is x86_64
23:51 < bsparks> Hmm... this is odd then
23:52 < bsparks> Maybe OS X is just not seeing my Proc right
23:53 < azrael666> omg
23:53 < azrael666> i still have a floppy disk drive
23:54 < bsparks> hm... I have to have a crappy MicroSD card around here SOMEWHERE
23:54 < geekboy> i have a flopy drive and use it reguraly X.x
23:55 < bsparks> I haven't had a Floppy Drive capable computer running since early 2008
23:56 <+Genolo> hmm
23:56 <+Genolo> stupid desktop isn't booting from disc
23:56 < i_c-Y> losers.
23:57 < bsparks> I used to have a 64MB MicroSD card lying around somewhere, now all I have are 2GB ones
23:57 < i_c-Y> most of the atom's are 32 bit - as with all modern intel processors, check processorfinder.intel.com
23:57 < bsparks> I just checked wikipedia, it loads faster
23:58 < bsparks> good god even the one in my phone is 2GB
23:59 < Netham45> I have an 8g in my phone
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