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00:00 < _Digital> all depends on research. I wouldn't know about them
00:00 < i_c-Y> well, the GS500 gets probably 60 MPG, so something between it and that.
00:01 < _Digital> i_c-Y, you're east coast, right?
00:01 < i_c-Y> yes
00:01 < i_c-Y> greatest coast in the world.
00:01 < _Digital> do you drive much?
00:02 < i_c-Y> when im at my parents house. im in NYC most of the time.
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00:02 < i_c-Y> greatest city in the world.
00:02 <+ports> i_c-Y, meh
00:02 < _Digital> well I know every city has their ups and down about traffic, but the people out here get angry fast and don't know how to drive. I wouldn't want a bike out here
00:03 <+ports> _Digital, do you have heated seats?
00:03 < _Digital> no, but I may add them in in the future
00:03 < _Digital> it doesn't get that cold in SoCal
00:03 < _Digital> cool is more like it
00:03 <+ports> yeah.. after having them on my last car.. i refuse to have a car without heated seats... theyre a life saver in winter
00:04 < Randomist> I got the subwoofer of a Logitech Z-5300 for twenty dollars.
00:04 < _Digital> if it snowed where I live, I would've done that already
00:04 < _Digital> Randomist, you don't know what sound quality is
00:04 <+ports> _Digital, where in california are you.. my friend is in Monterey
00:04 < _Digital> spend 250-300 on a pair of single speaker and then talk to me
00:05 < _Digital> Ontario, ~50mi east of LA
00:05 < Randomist> _Digital:  IANAA (I am not an audiophile).  :P
00:05 <+ports> the Z-5300 had a pretty good sub on it
00:05 <+ports> in college we used one to knock over a book case in the girl upstairs apartment
00:05 < _Digital> auudiophiles usually are prone marcketing. There is quantitatively measurable ways to get better sound
00:06 < _Digital> monster cable == the suck
00:06 <+ports> coat hangar = win
00:06 < _Digital> a coat hanger can outdo then
00:06 < _Digital> lol
00:06 < _Digital> ports++
00:06 <+ports> :>
00:07 < i_c-Y> if coat hangers were more successful, we wouldn't have half ya'll. 
00:07 < _Digital> most audiophiles increase in sound quality that they claim they cannot actually hear. They are usally old farts who have lost half of their hearing
00:08 <+ports> things such as "gold plugs" are wasteful
00:08 < _Digital> I personally like M-Audio's BX5a's. I won't spend more than that on a set of speaker either
00:09 < _Digital> also, monoprice.com ftw
00:09 <+ports> yes
00:10 <+ports> i have a burrito from Chipotle for dinner :)
00:12 < _Digital> this is one pair of lights I'm thinking of getting. Ebay is fairly inexpensive
00:12 < _Digital> http://www.ad-tuning.de/bilder/bilderebay/Artikel/960413-2.jpg
00:12 <+ports> lol
00:12 <+ports> youre getting one with DDE's?
00:12 < _Digital> DDE?
00:12 <+ports> the fiber ring.. daytime demon eyes or somethimg
00:13 <+ports> BMW started using them years ago on the 5-series.. and a lot of others copied them in aftermarket kits
00:13 < Spengo> I want a space ship
00:13 < _Digital> odd name, but I'd probably wire them for teh "angel eyes" are my DRLs
00:13 < _Digital> here is another consideration:
00:13 < _Digital> http://bild.quantitec.com/SW-VWPA3A-C-TFL_1.jpg
00:13 <+ports> _Digital, ive seen them called both..
00:13 < _Digital> and in black: http://bild.quantitec.com/SW-VWPA3A-B-TFL_0.jpg
00:13 < Spengo> the lights on my car need to be replaced
00:13 < Spengo> they suck
00:14 < Spengo> the brights are dimmer than most peoples' regular headlights :P
00:14 <+ports> _Digital, the kit i had from Bimmian.. they called them DDE Halo Rings
00:14 <+ports> http://www.bimmian.com/46/PHO/
00:15 < _Digital> if those prices are for just the rings, you're being ripped off. You said they were crap anyhow
00:15 <+ports> _Digital, no i said the HID kit was crap
00:15 < _Digital> ah
00:15 <+ports> _Digital, the HID kit i had didnt have the projectors.. just the xenon bulbs. and it was supposed to use the halogen bulbs reflector.
00:15 <+ports> can't really mix the two and get good results.
00:15 < _Digital> yeah
00:16 <+ports> the projector focuses the HID light...
00:16 <+ports> using the reflector just creates a horrible unfocused flood light.. its blinds oncoming traffic
00:17 <+ports> the halo (DDE) kit was awesome.. it worked well.. and i had the heated rings too. so they worked properly even in winter
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00:17 < _Digital> nice
00:17 < _Digital> this is my car. I've done some cleanup work on it. I have different wheels on it too: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2781828&id=512418847
00:18 <+ports> now i dont really need the halos or anything
00:18 <+ports> _Digital, that was a picture of a screw
00:18 < _Digital> facebook fail
00:18 <+ports> i found the right one
00:18 < _Digital> then it was teh album that loaded
00:19 <+ports> http://hphotos-snc1.fbcdn.net/hs181.snc1/6012_581954102528_37705721_34296622_6027688_n.jpg
00:19 < Spengo> I thought he was implying he crashed it and that was all that was left
00:19 <+ports> i now have the LED eyebrows or something
00:19 < _Digital> bad angle there
00:20 <+ports> you couldnt see it front on.. camera was blinded
00:20 < _Digital> then turn teh fogs off?
00:20 <+ports> http://www.fourtitude.com/news/uploads/Industry_Tuner_News/037__scaled_600_003.jpg
00:20 < _Digital> not bad, that is about what I was figuing from  the angle you shot it
00:21 <+ports> i enjoy the look of it..
00:21 <+ports> as DRL's i think theyre quite useless... but i feel that way about most DRL's
00:21 < _Digital> yeah, I agree
00:22 < _Digital> the sets of projectors I posted are not HID and I'd hae to do a retrofit to make sure I don't melt the housing
00:22 <+ports> yeah
00:22 < _Digital> I'm not sure about the hi-beam performance either
00:22 <+ports> well.. you need bi-xenons for high beam
00:22 < _Digital> of just keep halogen
00:22 <+ports> the original HIDs.. were xenon for low beams.. and had a halogen bulb for high-beams
00:23 <+ports> it wasnt a full xenon lighting setup
00:23 <+ports> generation 2 or 3 was bi-xenon
00:23 < _Digital> don't *need* bi-xenon headlamps
00:23 <+ports> you wont see the difference
00:23 <+ports> it's the same amount of light.. just focused up higher
00:23 <+ports> the projector has a motor on it.. and it tilts up
00:24 < _Digital> but less draw on the overall output of teh alternator
00:24 < _Digital> and I'm considering a car-based computer
00:24 < _Digital> possibly for field work of photoshop
00:24 <+ports> are you getting one of those 3D mouse things?
00:24 < i_c-Y> have you heard of a "laptop", _Digital ?
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00:25 < _Digital> in conjunction
00:25 <+ports> http://www.3dconnexion.com/products/spacenavigator.html
00:26 < i_c-Y> you could get one of em fujitsu umpc's and make a dash mount for it, so you can remove it and put it in and stuff.
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00:26 < i_c-Y> but photoshop performance woudl suckish
00:27 < _Digital> this will probably be mounted in teh space under my HVAC contros due to thermal reasons
00:27 < _Digital> I would like to do a C2D is possible
00:27 < _Digital> but I'm a ways away from working on that
00:29 <+ports> haha
00:30 <+ports> anyone watching the playoff NFL game?
00:30 <+ports> the Saints go marching on!
00:30 <@nikky> who?
00:30 <+jr19> its not even close
00:31 <+ports> hood
00:31 <+ports> good even
00:31 <+ports> jr19, sniper
00:31 <+jr19> what are you talking about
00:31 <+ports> where are you
00:32 <@nikky> Seattle
00:32 <+jr19> my parents, i just ate dinner
00:32 <+ports> jr19, ah cool. are you hanging out with brody tonight?
00:32 <+jr19> probably, i dont have anything else to do
00:33 <+jr19> skeletor got mad at me today for not coming over to watch her drink and do laundry
00:33 <+ports> man
00:33 <+ports> skeletor looks unhealthy next to her fat friend in her profile photo
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00:33 <+ports> its like a super before and after anorexia comparison
00:34 <+jr19> i dont know if skeletor is an appropriate nickname considering her own heftiness
00:34 <+ports> not anymore
00:34 <+ports> her face has filled out some
00:34 < Randomist> http://wintervenom.brandonw.net/Photos/College/My%20Dorm%20-%202.jpg
00:34 <+ports> Randomist, your lamp looks depressing
00:35 < _Digital> agreed
00:36 <+ports> my friend from college married an odd looking guy    http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs077.snc3/14431_593216492608_37705455_34722581_2487139_n.jpg
00:36 <+jr19> i refuse to look...mostle because i dont know if i can copy and paste in this
00:37 <+jr19> is he as odd looking as the guy that my ex gf amy married
00:37 <+ports> um whats her last name
00:37 <+jr19> beumer
00:38 <+jr19> i showed you the wedding announcement way back when
00:38 <+ports> amy baumer is hot
00:38 <+ports> yeah i dont remember dude
00:38 <+ports> and her husband looks like a trucker
00:39 <+jr19> is it the right amy
00:39 <+ports> amy lynn?
00:39 <+jr19> yeah
00:39 <+ports> in her profile photo... he looks nasty
00:39 <+jr19> would you stop texting me links
00:39 <+jr19> its annoying when im in this
00:40 <+jr19> and i think one of them killed my connection somehow
00:40 <+ports> haha
00:40 <+ports> http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs088.snc3/15546_517661122151_135000030_30750474_5751574_n.jpg
00:40 <+ports> that's cute
00:40 <+jr19> i know what they look like
00:40 <+ports> no that photo is of someone else
00:40 <+ports> a girl i went to high school with
00:41 <+jr19> ok
00:41 <+jr19> did you send nimi a message
00:41 <+ports> its a B&W photo of them kissing in the street
00:41 <+ports> no.. because itd be awkward
00:42 <+ports> i only have 1 friend that goes to STLCOP.  and i havent talked to her in years
00:42 <+ports> i dont know if shes still there even
00:42 <+jr19> just be like, i saw we shared last names lol
00:42 <+doc_who> is that sarah chalke?
00:42 <+ports> no
00:42 <+ports> doc_who, in the B&W photo?
00:42 <+doc_who> yeah
00:42 <+ports> no
00:42 <+ports> a girl i went to high school with her fiance..  megan
00:43 <+ports> jr19, god damnit... indian girl is messaging me again
00:43 <+jr19> are you friends with megan from canada on facebook
00:43 <+ports> no
00:43 <+ports> she and i just talk on msn
00:43 <+jr19> ah ok
00:43 <+jr19> fuck msn
00:44 <+ports> i could add her.. but nah
00:44 <+ports> her boyfriend is so creepy old
00:44 <+jr19> yeah he looks like a slob
00:44 <+ports> shes like 19 and hes 32-35
00:44 <+ports> oh hot
00:44 <+doc_who> Randomist, is that Space Invaders?
00:44 <+ports> megan has hot friends on facebook
00:45 <+jr19> yeah
00:45 <+ports> shes going to have the baby in a few weeks
00:45 < Randomist> doc_who:  Arch Linux logo.
00:46 <+jr19> yeah i saw that
00:47 <+jr19> arch linux is win
00:47 <+ports> jr19, shes sooo fat
00:47 <+ports> jr19, that skinny little girl looks like she ate a horse
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00:47 <+jr19> it happens
00:48 < Jonimus> heh don't let Nikk y or i_c- Y  hear you say that
00:48 <+ports> Who dat?
00:48 < Jonimus> @ jr19 
00:48 < cemeyer> Anyone know where the base of the 83+ stack is, and how much room there is?
00:48 <+ports> Who dat?
00:48 <+ports> Who dat thinks they can beat dem Saints?
00:48 <+jr19> i form my own opinions and dnt let others affect that
00:48 <+ports> "dey"
00:49 < Jonimus> BrandonW: Tari
00:49 <+jr19> ports; did you see that sign?
00:49 <+ports> what sog
00:49 <+ports> sign
00:49 <+ports> im not watching the game on tv
00:49 <+jr19> the one that said WHO DAT
00:49 <+ports> oh no
00:49 <+ports> lol
00:49 <+kirsk> <+ports> shes like 19 and hes 32-35
00:50 <+kirsk> man thats wrong
00:50 <+ports> kirsk, shes preggo and theyve been dating for a few years
00:50 <+kirsk> fffuuu
00:50 < Spengo> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mark-potok/haitian-catastrophe-for-r_b_423830.html
00:50 < Spengo> ha
00:50 < Spengo> that is terrible
00:50 < Spengo> but kind of hilarious at the same time
00:51 <+ports> i hope the Ravens stop the Colts
00:51 <+ports> i want the Ravens to destroy the Jets in the AFC
00:51 <+jr19> i want football season to be over
00:52 <+jr19> because then it will be february and we will be closer to spring
00:52 <+ports> heh
00:53 <+ports> jr19, remember how that indian girl doesnt have a drivers license... because she hates driving... she has a fake ID to drink at bars
00:55 < bsparks> YAY no more shitty MySpace music player
00:56 <+kirsk> fuck yeah spring
00:56 <+jr19> lol what
00:56 <+jr19> is she 21?
00:56 <+ports> 20
00:56 <+jr19> oh i was gonna say
00:56 <+jr19> i thought she was using a fake even though she could just get a non-drivers ID
00:56 <+ports> isn't that stupid as fuck though?
00:57 <+jr19> why is that stupid
00:57 <+jr19> what is the other option
00:57 <+jr19> if she wants to get into bars
00:57 <+doc_who> cant you get a non drivers id?
00:57 <+ports> I dislike that she's too lazy to get a drivers license.
00:57 <+kirsk> wait a year?
00:57 <+doc_who> if you get caught with a fake you can go to jail
00:58 <+ports> I feel like that's a normal part of being an adult.
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00:58 <+jr19> ok
00:58 <+kirsk> i think the best option is for her to wait a year
00:58 <+ports> jr19, but she went through the trouble of getting a fake
00:58 <+jr19> well i was just saying, if she really wants to break the law and get into a bar, its probably her only option
00:58 <+ports> jr19, i get the drinking part
00:59 <+doc_who> oh didnt see the under 21 part
00:59 <+ports> jr19, she said she was out till 3-4 in the morning... not sure but i think she sent me a goodnight message at midnight...
00:59 <+jr19> why aren't you sure
00:59 <+ports> because i was drunk when i got home at 3am and i just shutdown my desktop
01:00 <+ports> i dont remember for sure what time she sent the goodnight at
01:00 <+jr19> oh i thought you meant she sent it to your phone
01:00 <+ports> oh
01:00 <+jr19> i am sort of irritated with text messages
01:00 <+ports> she doesnt text me much anymore
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01:00 <+jr19> it seems like people would rather send 100 text messages than just call someone for a few minutes
01:01 <+kirsk> dont call guys just to chat
01:01 <+ports> yes
01:01 <+ports> i like sexting though
01:01 <+jr19> i dont call people just to chat ever
01:01 <+jr19> i will call someone if i want to know what the hell is going though
01:01 <+kirsk> ok
01:02 <+ports> http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/16/motorola-shadow-is-nexus-two-with-sliding-qwerty-keyboard/
01:02 <+kirsk> i tend to text so i dont interrupt them
01:03 <+jr19> aren't you interrupting either way
01:03 <+jr19> it's not like they are forced to answer
01:03 < bsparks> ports, I saw the gizmodo post on that, while I am not a fan of the aestetics of the original Droid, if that is gonna be moto's next, then _that_ is a nice looking phone
01:03 <+jr19> they could always just text back if they can't answer
01:03 <+kirsk> reading a text is like reading an email, theyll do it when its more convenient for them
01:03 <+ports> bsparks, why are you talking to me?
01:03 <+kirsk> and for me too
01:03 <+jr19> i suppose, i usually just read everything right away unless i truly don't notice it
01:03 < bsparks> ports, talking _at_ you
01:04 <+kirsk> me too
01:04 <+kirsk> but id have to turn down music/movies/whatever if i get called
01:04 <+kirsk> or walk outside if im at the office
01:04 <+ports> i hate 20 questions
01:04 <+jr19> i guess
01:04 <+ports> jr19, shes making me finish the game
01:05 <+ports> im not sober enough for this
01:05 <+kirsk> most people i know arent even allowed to take calls at work
01:05 <+ports> err im too sober for this
01:05 <+jr19> we're not even supposed to have our phones on at work
01:05 <+jr19> but everyone around me does
01:05 <+ports> my office is pretty lenient.. just keep personal calls quick, and discreet..
01:05 <+ports> don't be on the phone giggling about some girls tits
01:05 <+kirsk> and i wouldnt want to interrupt someone's meal or spending time with someone with a ringtone/vibrating phone because im trying to call them
01:07 <+ports> jr19, shes asking stupid questions like favorite holiday, food, moment, etc
01:07 <+jr19> just block her then
01:07 <+jr19> if you're that annoyed
01:07 <+ports> im close
01:07 <+ports> i just need to explain to her that im not interested
01:08 <+doc_who> ports, have a beer?
01:08 <+ports> doc_who, i just got over being hungover from last night.. im not starting again
01:09 <+doc_who> oh,  i thought the best way to cure a hangover was to keep drinking
01:09 <+ports> doc_who, no.. thats the best way to delay a hangover.
01:10 <+doc_who> hmmm you have a point
01:10 <+ports> your body still needs time to process the ethanol and acetalhydride...you're just adding more to the load by drinking..
01:10 <+jr19> easy cure: just don't drink
01:10 <+doc_who> did you drink a gallon of gatorade?
01:11 <+ports> doc_who, no
01:11 <+doc_who> you should have
01:11 <+ports> thanks
01:11 <+ports> i didnt eat dinner last night.. thats what made things worse
01:12 <+jr19> are you going to do anything tonight
01:12 <+ports> the girl neighbor wanted to hang out tonight
01:12 <+ports> shes calling me when she gets off work at 8
01:12 <+ports> i was smoking a lot last night too.. thats unhealthy
01:13 <+ports> i set myself up pretty well to throw up in a pile of snow
01:14 <+jr19> haha why were you smoking
01:14 <+ports> everyone around me was
01:14 <+ports> and the hot girl liked menthol cigarettes.. it was a nice conversation starter
01:15 <+jr19> a black guy gave me a cigarette the one night and i was like "this is menthol right?" and he's like "of course it is, i'm a nigga!"
01:15 <+ports> she, her boyfriend, and i looked pretty out of place
01:15 <+jr19> he was a huge black guy, just a giant
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01:16 <+ports> he was a black bear :P
01:17 <+doc_who> you smoke menthols?
01:17 <+jr19> ports likes menthols and second-hand marijuana smoke
01:17 <+kirsk> http://disc.420chan.org/tech/src/1263595023987.png  hahaha
01:18 <+ports> lol
01:18 <+ports> kirsk, i feel like posting that on a facebook wall for a girl i failed to sleep with
01:18 < Genolo> what windows managers do you guys like
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01:19 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Weegee] by Remius
01:19 < Genolo> if i don't get any better recommendations i'll probably use openbox
01:19 <+ports> KDE
01:19 <+kirsk> i like windows' window manager
01:19 <+jr19> i always kinda liked fluxbox
01:19 <+jr19> Randomist was using that cool haskell tiling windows manager
01:20 <+jr19> it looked neat but i've never tried it
01:20 <+ports> is fluxbox the one that has the 3D cube virtual window things?
01:20 <+jr19> no i think you're thinking of compiz stuffs
01:20 <+kirsk> i also like that touch interface concept
01:20 <+jr19> stuff that basically doesn't interest me
01:20 <+ports> compiz fusion
01:22 < Genolo> i don't know how to configure my graphics card for those fancy effects
01:22 <+jr19> i find that stuff to be useless anyway
01:22 <+jr19> but i guess some people love it
01:23 <+ports> shit
01:23 <+ports> Colts scored
01:24 < Genolo> pretty much all i have left to do to make this usable is configure network and the wm
01:24 < Genolo> wicd keeps saying unable to obtain ip adress so i keep connecting manually
01:24 <+jr19> fail
01:25 <+kirsk> http://disc.420chan.org/st/src/1260671059001.jpg   awww
01:26 < Genolo> oh hey what do you guys use for your terminals
01:26 <+jr19> i should sell all my paintball stuff
01:26 < Genolo> terminal emulator
01:26 < Genolo> thing
01:26 <+ports> putty
01:26 <+jr19> i think he means like xterm, aterm, eterm
01:26 <+jr19> konsole hehe
01:26 < Genolo> on my old l just used
01:26 < Genolo> laptop
01:26 < Genolo> gnome-terminal
01:27 <+ports> jr19, i dont use linux
01:27 < Genolo> because you could have a bg picture
01:27 <+jr19> you can do with eterm
01:27 <+jr19> hmm wtf did i used to use
01:27 <+jr19> right now i'm just running ubuntu on my laptop so i just use the gnome terminal
01:28 < Genolo> i ran ubuntu around a year ago
01:28 <+jr19> Genolo: i think i used aterm a lot
01:28 < Genolo> when vista stopped working
01:28 <+jr19> cuz you could do some cool stuff with it
01:28 < Genolo> good times
01:30 <+jr19> i enjoy my retard-friendly ubuntu
01:31 < Genolo> i'm a retard and i use arch
01:32 <+jr19> i used to use gentoo a lot
01:32 < i_c-Y> lol gentoo
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01:32 <+ports> jr19, i feel my hangover coming back
01:32 <+jr19> eventually i came to the conclusion that gentoo was kinda good for learning a lot of shit
01:32 <+jr19> but it's not really good for using, heh
01:32 < _Digital> OD: 6", ID: 5.75", product: clear PVC tube, price: $6.24/ft
01:32 < i_c-Y> all you learn is to waste time.
01:34 <+ports> why doesnt Bumblebee talk in Transformers 2?
01:34 <+jr19> ports: the vps needs some updates and a restart probably
01:35 <@BrandonW> They had a reason for him not talking in the first Transformers (because he was damaged), but the second movie abandoned all logic.
01:35 <@BrandonW> And it's cuter if he doesn't talk.
01:35 <+ports> jr19, i need help
01:35 <+ports> "one thing that you never confessed and may be you wanna tell me?
01:36 <+jr19> i don't know
01:36 <+jr19> tell her whatever you want to tell her
01:37 <+ports> CRNFLD
01:37 <+ports> thatd be great
01:38 <+jr19> tell her then
01:38 <+jr19> maybe it will make her go away
01:38 <+jr19> i dont know why you care if you dont care about her
01:40 <+ports> sure.. but i dont tell that story to just anyone
01:40 <+jr19> whatever you say
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01:41 <+doc_who> Genolo, ummm.... bash?
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01:44 <+jr19> i get irritated when the voicemail icon doesn't disappear even though i don't have a voice message
01:45 <+ports> yeah
01:45 <+ports> is that an OS bug?
01:46 <+jr19> i dont think so
01:46 <+jr19> i think i've had problems with it on every phone i've ever owned
01:46 <+ports> USCC system sends you a text message..
01:46 <+ports> and then your phone deletes the icon
01:46 <+ports> but if the message doesnt show up.. it wont work
01:46 <+ports> k so its USCC
01:50 <+ports> jr19, neighbor will be home soon
01:50 <+jr19> alright
01:50 <+ports> im going to eat my burrito
01:51 <+jr19> i might go get ice cream
01:51 <+jr19> it sounds good
01:58 <+jr19> alright i'll bbl
02:00 <+ports> bye
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02:05 < Dan_E> LaTeX is misbehaving again.  Or I guess it's just not behaving as I'd like it to.
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02:06 < Dan_E> Anyone feel confident in their ability to change vertical alignment in a table?
02:06 <@BrandonW> Not I.
02:06 < Dan_E> Me neither :(
02:06 <@BrandonW> I did find that Nspire problem, though.
02:07 <@BrandonW> I was stupidly overflowing a buffer in such a wacky way that I couldn't tell I was doing it.
02:07 <@BrandonW> I did send the commands, I just never received the responses.
02:07 <@BrandonW> Because I totally borked RAM.
02:08 < Dan_E> Oops.
02:08 < Dan_E> Well at least you discovered the issue.
02:09 <+ports> Dan_E!
02:09 <@BrandonW> I had to create that dummy responder and go nuts doing it, but yeah.
02:09 <+ports> Dan_E, what are you writing in LaTeX?
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02:10 < Dan_E> Hi, ports.
02:10 < Dan_E> I'm writing a worksheet generator at the moment.
02:11 <+ports> oh cool
02:11 < Dan_E> The output of which is a latex document that gets converted to PDF.
02:11 <+ports> i attempted using latex once in college.. i gave up quickly
02:11 <+ports> my professor used to write presentations in PDF format using latex.. he was really good with it
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02:11 < Dan_E> http://www.teacheasier.com/home/interface/Interface.html (except the Test Generator part will be intermitantly broken as I'm futzing with the latex)
02:12 <+ports> cool
02:12 <+ports> how did you create the question database?
02:12 < Dan_E> The questions are small programs ... I created a language and an interpreter and then coded the questions so I can generate as many of them as I want.
02:13 <+ports> wow
02:13 < Dan_E> http://teach.thruhere.net/home/test.php documents the language more or less
02:17 < JoeYoung> holy shit
02:17 < JoeYoung> they're playing that song!
02:17 < JoeYoung> on the radio!
02:17 < JoeYoung> MIND=BLOWN
02:17 < JoeYoung> omgomgomgomgomg
02:18 < bsparks> BrandonW, does this mean that you possibly fixed a troublesome error in USB8x for the future?
02:18 <@BrandonW> No, I fixed a bug in my crappy coding.
02:18 < bsparks> aw :(
02:19 <@BrandonW> It was written in such a way that only acknowledgement packets would fail.
02:19 < bsparks> only you
02:19 < bsparks> would be able to pull that off
02:19 < JoeYoung> This song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z402CaGU7oQ
02:20 <+doc_who> cant you use that MathML thing?
02:21 < JoeYoung> gleep glorp fleeble flabble zip zop zam
02:21 < JoeYoung> gleep glorp fleeble flabble flip flap flop
02:21 < JoeYoung> <3
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02:21 <+doc_who> welcome to my ignore list JoeYoung 
02:22 < JoeYoung> You're welcome to shut the fuck up, doc_who. I don't even know or care about you anyway.
02:23 <+ports> lol
02:23  * Randomist turns a fan in their directions.
02:23 < Dan_E> Well, MathML isn't well supported in browsers, and it doesn't help in getting to a PDF in any case.
02:31 <+doc_who> mmmk
02:31 <+jr19> heh
02:31 <+jr19> ports: i thought you were going to go do something with your girlfriend
02:32 <+ports> jr19, who
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02:52 <+ports> 1. You have won a prize. The prize has two options, and you can choose either (but not both). The first option is a year in Europe with a monthly stipend of $2,000. The second option is ten minutes on the moon.
02:53 < Randomist> Former.
02:54 <+ports> moon bitches!
02:54 <@BrandonW> Do I get a space suit, oxygen, food, etc. if I choose the second one?
02:55 <+ports> BrandonW, no you get to die.
02:55 <+ports> space suit and oxygen sure... but why do you need food for 10 minutes?
02:55 <@BrandonW> You don't, but it'd be nice to sit and eat a sandwich looking at the Earth.
02:56 < Randomist> s:sit:float:
02:56 <+ports> you dont float on the moon
02:56 <+ports> it's low gravity, not zero gravity
02:57 <+ports> id like to have a gin martini on the moon
02:57 <@BrandonW> So, no death, or death...I choose no death.
02:58 < Randomist> At least until it stops being an option.
02:58 < Randomist> And don't get Spengo started on the whole cloning thing.  :P
02:59 < Spengo> lol
02:59 <+ports> a cloned BW would be horrible
02:59 <+ports> an army of bearded angry people
02:59 < Spengo> haha
02:59 <+ports> http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/334121
02:59 <+ports> i liked the 2nd reply on this .. good questions
03:00 <+ports> 8. Every person you have ever slept with is invited to a banquet where you are the guest of honor. No one will be in attendance except you, the collection of your former lovers, and the catering service. After the meal, you are asked to give a fifteen-minute speech to the assembly.
03:00 <+ports> What do you talk about?
03:01 < Randomist> "So, how was it?"
03:01 <+ports> "If you had to go to the clinic, raise your hand"
03:01 < Randomist> Haha.
03:01 < Spengo> lul
03:03 < Spengo> "anyone up for an orgy?"
03:04 <+ports> no i got it
03:04 <+ports> "I'm not sleeping alone tonight."
03:05 <+ports> gold
03:06 < tr1p1ea> you dont need food on the moon when its made of cheese!
03:07 <+ports> just take the bread!
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03:08 <+doc_who> lol ports
03:08 <+doc_who> http://www.answerbag.com/a_view/2478323
03:08 <+doc_who> the last question is "what is your favorite color?"
03:08 <+ports> doc_who, yeah... they let me down
03:09 <+ports> does the xbox360 have a web browser?
03:10 < tr1p1ea> not by default
03:11 < bsparks> first thing tr1p1ea says in forever "not by default" in reference to the 360 having a web browser 
03:12 < bsparks> epic :)
03:12 < bsparks> also, hello tr1p1ea 
03:13 < tr1p1ea> hallo :)
03:14 <+doc_who> hi tr1p1ea 
03:15 <+ports> hi tr1p1ea
03:17 < bsparks> I wonder how an artist goes about getting an album on Last.fm [ and iTunes for that matter ]
03:18 <+doc_who> for your band bsparks ?
03:18 < bsparks> doc_who, I don't have a band. 
03:19 <+ports> they need talent
03:19 <+doc_who> you need a good marketing person
03:19 <+doc_who> obviously not talent if lady gaga or katy perry is on there
03:19 < bsparks> I was just curious about how it all worked. Especially seeing how this band I am listening to is on iTunes, but not last.fm [ or pandora, but that is different I guess ]
03:19 <+ports> http://www.macworld.com/article/56813/2007/03/tunecore.html
03:21 < i_c-Y> its actually a lot simpler than whatever ports linked
03:21 < i_c-Y> step one: fly to cuperinto
03:21 < i_c-Y> step two: bend over
03:21 < i_c-Y> then you're done.
03:21 < bsparks> So, if the band can't afford plane tickets, how'd they do it?
03:21 < i_c-Y> compare this to buying an apple product:
03:21 < i_c-Y> step one: bend over
03:22 < i_c-Y> then you're done.
03:22 <+ports> lol
03:22 < i_c-Y> bsparks: then they shouldn't be on itunes.
03:22 < i_c-Y> they can't afford apple.
03:22 <+ports> apple... "It just fits in your ass."
03:23 < bsparks> i_c-Y, I'd say it seems like they can. Your logic is inherantly flawed, poorly at that
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03:24 < bsparks> Creativity is key to making a decent insult. Otherwise you're just a 12 year old on a school bus.
03:24 <+ports> bsparks, how old are you
03:24 < bsparks> ports, younger than you.
03:25 <+ports> do you take the school bus?
03:25 < bsparks> Nope
03:26 < bsparks> I did when I was 12 though... actually, scratch that. I think I was 10 last time I rode a school bus. 
03:26 < bsparks> If I lived in Australia I'd have ridden a kangaroo to school, innit that right tr1p1ea? 
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03:35 <@BrandonW> http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/8026/nspire.jpg BWAHAHAHAHA
03:36 <+doc_who> awww did BrandonW jizz in his pants?
03:36 <+ports> yes
03:36 <+ports> i did too
03:36 <+ports> hehehe
03:39 < Goplat> finally get your usb8x program to communicate with the nspire working?
03:39 <@BrandonW> Yes.
03:39 <@BrandonW> I'm working on the file management service right now.
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04:18 < haveacalc> Hai
04:19 < haveacalc> guise
04:21 <@nikky> hi
04:21 <+doc_who> hi
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04:21 <+doc_who> bye?
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04:22 < bsparks> mode +m bitches http://fukung.net/v/8682/478e94b6812b52d544331d97c14f6766.jpg
04:23 <+doc_who> bsparks, http://www.bash.org/?9501
04:24 < bsparks> haha
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04:32 <+ports> that was a waste
04:32 <+ports> Colts won easy
04:33 <+ports> Ravens werent even trying
04:33 <+doc_who> when is the superboal?
04:33 <+ports> i dunno
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04:34 <+ports> feb 7th
04:34 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Netham45] by efneTI86
04:35 < Randomist> In before crazy "superboal" [Superbowl] advertising.
04:35 <@nikky> Hey ports, this is somewhat unrelated to the topic right now
04:36 <@nikky> but please keep your personal converstations in PM
04:36 <@nikky> and not on this channel
04:36 <@nikky> spanks!
04:36 <+ports> !qadd <@nikky> Hey ports, this is somewhat unrelated to the topic right now   <@nikky> but please keep your personal converstations in PM  <@nikky> and not on this channel  <@nikky> spanks!
04:36 <@efneTI86> Quote 1677 added
04:37 < Randomist> !qfind squeeze
04:37 <@efneTI86> 1667:MetalRand: <sir_lewk> usually I take it out, maybe squeeze it once or twice | <sir_lewk> I did not realize how dirty that sounded
04:37 <@efneTI86> (All of 1 match)
04:38 < Randomist> Channel has much DATA in personal conversations.  :P
04:38  * Netham45 just saw avatar
04:38  * Genolo doesn't care
04:38 <+ports> Netham45, Please see above. No personal conversations.
04:38 <+ports> !qsay 1677
04:38 <@efneTI86> 1677: <@nikky> Hey ports, this is somewhat unrelated to the topic right now   <@nikky> but please keep your personal converstations in PM  <@nikky> and not on this channel  <@nikky> spanks! [Added ports at 2010/01/16 23:37]
04:38 < bsparks> !delq 1677
04:38 <+Netham45> !qdel 1677
04:38 <@efneTI86> Deleted quote 1677
04:39 <@chronomex> !q
04:39 <@efneTI86> 1002: <chronomex> goodnight all | <DSP_Lord> night chronomex | <chronomex> I need to sleep, else I'll never go to bed! | <chronomex> er | <chronomex> whatever [Added: DSP_Lord at 2007/08/26 01:03]
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04:50 <@efneTI92> [KermM] http://www.cemetech.net :: Leading The Way to the Future
04:51 < bsparks> KermM, I saw videos of the peregrine glove from CES
04:51 < bsparks> The one glove that is sorta similar to the Clove 2 data glove
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04:56 < Dan_E> BrandonW: How's the code looking?
04:56 <@BrandonW> To what, the Nspire thing?
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04:57 < KermM> bsparks, indeed, they did an excellent job
04:57 < KermM> I have a Clove 3 in the (very slow) works; I'll see how it compares :)
04:57 < KermM> although the aims of the two projects are a bit different
04:58 < bsparks> KermM, indeed. I was curious about the Peregrine though, it looked like it supports motion controls too, was interesting. Also, Clove 3? :o
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05:00 < Dan_E> Yeah.
05:01 <@BrandonW> It's going well, I'm creating an msd8x-style UI to browse the contents of the device.
05:01 <@BrandonW> I've picked apart what the exploit's doing, so after this I'm going to duplicate what it does.
05:01 <@BrandonW> And we just might have a remote Nspire exploit installer.
05:02 <@BrandonW> I'm not going to commit/release the exploit details.
05:02 <@BrandonW> Not until the real one comes out, if it does.
05:03 <@BrandonW> I have it set up so that other programs/applications can use the routines, like usb8x.
05:03 < Dan_E> Just one exploit so far, huh?
05:03 <@BrandonW> Yeah, we just recently dumped boot1, though, which as far as I understand is not upgradeable.
05:03 <@BrandonW> So if we find something in there, we're good.
05:04 <@BrandonW> If they had just encrypted boot2 updates like they do OS updates, none of this would've ever happened.
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05:05 <@Andy_J> this sounds an awfully lot like the Wii :p
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05:05 <@efneTI92> [Netham45] "Rock is overpowered, paper is fine." -Scissors
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05:07 <@BrandonW> What I have so far is at http://brandonw.net/svn/calcstuff/Nspire8x/trunk/
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05:09 < Dan_E> Cool.
05:10 < Dan_E> I miss using my brain in that way.
05:10 <+jr19> in what way?
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05:11 <@Andy_J> !qsay 1012
05:11 <@efneTI86> 1012: * Dan_E is a high school math teacher | <Dan_E> One of the other math teachers asked me what my high score was in blockdude | <Dan_E> And I got to be like, "Open up Puzzle Pack ... See that part where it says "Dan Englender" on the title screen?  THat's my high score" [Added Andy_J at 2007/08/27 23:43]
05:11 <@Andy_J> that way :p
05:11 < bsparks> best quote ever
05:11 < Dan_E> Analytically.  i.e. coding.
05:12 < Dan_E> :)
05:12 <@Andy_J> I'd hate to have someone who actually knows all the tricks to how these calculators work as a teacher. I'd love to be said teacher. :)
05:13 < bsparks> I taught my physics teacher as many tricks as I could find, the deal was as long as I taught him tricks, he'd let me play around on my calc all I wanted
05:13 <@Andy_J> it was pretty cool in high school though ...
05:13 <@Andy_J> instead of using the ViewScreen, one of the teachers used VTI on his computer outputting to the TV
05:14 < bsparks> I got my physics teacher convinced PTI was better >_>
05:14 <@Andy_J> at some point I was working on a two-part system to control VTI with a real calculator ...
05:15 < bsparks> why did you stop?
05:15 < Dan_E> That's fun.  I had no TV nor projector as a teacher.
05:16 < Dan_E> I used a TI-84+ poster on the wall and pointed to it.
05:16 < bsparks> haha, win
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05:16 < bsparks> hmm, I should go to bed. But first, to set up the motion detection software, yeeees
05:16 <@BrandonW> Andy_J, via remote control packets?
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05:17 <@BrandonW> One of these days I'm going to bring back that remote control your calculator PHP page.
05:18 < Dan_E> Did you ever write a over-the-internet calculator link bridge?
05:18 <@Andy_J> BrandonW: at that point I don't think I knew about that :)
05:18 <@BrandonW> No, but I always wanted to.
05:18 <@BrandonW> Playing Tetris with somebody in China or something.
05:18 <@BrandonW> ZTetris*
05:18 <@Andy_J> I think I was trying to send it WM_KEYDOWN/UP messages
05:19 <@Andy_J> this was 2003 or so
05:19 <@Andy_J> bsparks: I never got it working quite right and then I graduated :p
05:19 <@Andy_J> also, way back then I was stuck with using vb6 :|
05:20 <@nikky> yeah, you graduated to Java though
05:20 <@nikky> wewt
05:20 <@BrandonW> Java sucks.
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05:22 < Dan_E> I've been kind of starting to like it now that I am actually extending classes and using inheritance.
05:22 <@BrandonW> I'm all for object-oriented programming.
05:22 <@BrandonW> But in Java, no thank you.
05:22 <@Andy_J> I don't use Java much anymore
05:22 <@Andy_J> mostly just C# because that's what we use at work
05:22 <@Andy_J> which is pretty much the same thing but not really
05:23 < Dan_E> Everything I've been using has actually been pretty cool.  Java, php, mysql, javascript, css ... All pretty nifty.  LaTeX is a pain in ass though.
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05:23 <@BrandonW> You wash your mouth, don't compare C# to Java.
05:24 < Genolo> does anyone have that link to that windows 7 disc thing
05:24 < Genolo> so i can fix the bootloader
05:24 <@Andy_J> change a few keywords, drop in a couple different package names, and change the backing runtime
05:24 <@nikky> www.debian.org
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05:48 < Grue`> Debian FTW
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06:07 < Barrett> hai nikky wut iz ur survir doin?
06:10 <@nikky> umm
06:10 <@BrandonW> Hacking the planet.
06:10 <@nikky> doesn't look like much
06:11 <@nikky> oh
06:11 <@nikky> hmm
06:11 <@nikky> somebody is downloading something?
06:11 < Barrett> some sort of interwebz hoopla is going on
06:11 < Barrett> well
06:12 < Barrett> in and out are both high
06:12 <@nikky> yeah
06:12 <@nikky> plz hold
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06:12 < Barrett> it's not really terribly high... just curious
06:12 <@nikky> got it
06:13 <@nikky> znc was using a ton of bandwidth...
06:13 <@nikky> odd
06:13 <@Andy_J> isn't he in like 70 channels or something?
06:14 <@nikky> it shouldn't be like 1MB/s
06:14 <@Andy_J> it is if rizon is involved
06:14 <@nikky> rizon?
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06:14 <@nikky> Genolo: um, znc
06:14 <@nikky> Why was it using so much bandwidth, both up and down?
06:15 < Genolo> no idea
06:15 < Genolo> maybe i was on too many channels with it
06:15 < Genolo> or networks
06:15 <@nikky> Hmm
06:16 < Barrett> is that just an irc client? what is that?
06:16 < Genolo> if it's using too much i can always not use it/limit the networks
06:17 <@nikky> does it do file transfers?
06:17 <@nikky> it was using a lot of outgoing...
06:18 < Barrett> it was doing about the same outgoing as incoming
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06:18 <@Andy_J> well yeah, if he had a client connected to it, it would do that
06:19 < Barrett> chances are it was a file transfer or someone was going crazy...
06:19 < Barrett> it wouldn't do that with normal text... even in 100 channels
06:19 < Genolo> err
06:20 < Genolo> i might have been dccing something
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06:33 <@nikky> Barrett: I agree, KU really does have shitty basketball treams.
06:34 < Barrett> seriously... lost to number 16
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06:34 < Barrett> it would really suck to be a jayhawker
06:34 < Genolo> moral of the story is to not dcc while on znc
06:36 < Jayhawker> nikky: When Lorenzo Romar pays his $699 licensing fee, then we'll talk.
06:38  * Jayhawker also mumbles something about the Utah State Aggies...
06:39 < Barrett> hey now... the highest ranked team you've beat is 18...  We haven't had the opportunity to play any ranked teams, but we beat a team that beat the 15th ranked team... so I think that settles it
06:39 < Barrett> BYU > KU
06:41 < Barrett> not to mention... 18-1 is much better than 16-1
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06:41 < Jayhawker> Heh, he got banned again? Nice...
06:42 < Barrett> or how about the nation's 4th longest winning streak?
06:42 < Barrett> kansas isn't even on this list.. how sad
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06:43 < Barrett> why are my clients getting banned?  and even banning my IP addresses! that is bad for business
06:44 <@BrandonW> That's not going to be good for business.
06:44 <@BrandonW> That's...not going to be good for anybody.
06:45 < Jayhawker> Barrett: If KU and BYU played on a neutral court... Hell, if BYU and KU played in Provo... who would win? Be honest.
06:45 < Barrett> BYU
06:45 < Barrett> proof: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6COcL1KaIUA
06:45 < Jayhawker> Hopefully they play in the tournament so your theory can be tested.
06:46 < Barrett> as long as we can get out of the first round...
06:47 < Barrett> I doubt they'll seed us low enough to play KU... unless you guys start getting unbiased refs (and start losing fair and square)
06:48 < Jayhawker> Yup, the officials are the reason KU is 16-1. Now I see the error of my ways. KU sucks. They'd be under .500 if the officials weren't helping them win. X is useless, Collins sucks, Aldrich is a bum, etc...
06:48 < Barrett> also... what's with this?  Cornell W 71-66 
06:49 < Barrett> only won by 5 against Cornell?
06:49 <+jr19> i'm waiting for northern iowa to show up in the top 25
06:49 < Barrett> at home, even
06:49 <+jr19> yay UNI
06:49 < Jayhawker> You do realize that Cornell is a good team, don't you?
06:49 < Barrett> Cornell lost to Seton Hall
06:49 < Jayhawker> Cornell was in the tournament last year and returned basically everyone from that team.
06:50 < Jayhawker> Just because they're an Ivy League school doesn't mean their team automatically sucks.
06:50 <+jr19> yeah cornell was good
06:50 <+jr19> and they still are
06:51 <@nikky> KU is far superior.
06:51 < Jayhawker> Northern Iowa should be ranked next week.
06:52 <+jr19> i'm just hoping they can continue to do well enough to make the tournament with something higher than a 12 seed
06:52 < Jayhawker> They're the best team in the MVC. I was hoping the Salukis would be back at the top of the MVC this year but it doesn't look like it's going to happen.
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06:53 <@efneTI92> [Genolo] Only my railgun can shoot letting my soul out~
06:53 < Jayhawker> I'd put UNI around an 8 seed right now. If they keep winning... and they might, considering that the Valley doesn't look that gtreat this year... they should continue to rise a bit.
06:54 < Barrett> so I was on campus all day today... got home to a locked door... unlocked it... and my roommate and his friend are sitting on the couch... kind of sweaty
06:55 < Barrett> his friend was sitting in a very awkward position (definitely not comfortable)... like a foot away from my roommate
06:55 < Barrett> on the same couch
06:55 < Jayhawker> Tuesday... when they play at Wichita State... might go a long way to deciding that. WSU looks like the second best team in the Valley... A win at WSU would be big.
06:55 < Barrett> oh, and his friend is a guy
06:56 < Barrett> I don't even think I sit on the same couch as my guy friends.. if it's possible
06:58 < Jayhawker> jr19: You know much about Iowa State this year? I know they won here in Lincoln today. Do you think they're actually any good?
06:59 < Jayhawker> I'd like to see them contend for a spot in the tournament this year. I'd like to see McDermott be successful there. I remember when Hilton was a nasty place to play.
07:00 <@BrandonW> I'm telling you, make it clear you know they're gay and this'll all be over with.
07:03 <+jr19> Jayhawker: they're alright, they should hold their own in the big 12, but i dont see them finishing better than .500
07:04 <+jr19> in conference play anyway
07:04 <+jr19> they lost to UNI, but UNI is easily the best team in the state....Iowa is complete garbage
07:06 < Jayhawker> It's hard to tell how good a lot of the teams are in the Big 12. I'd say Kansas and Texas are obviously the best, but Texas struggled at home against Texas A&M today and that actually went to overtime.
07:07 < Jayhawker> Beyond that, maybe Kansas State and Baylor? Maybe Missouri? But Kansas State lost to Missouri and Missouri lost today to a mediocre Oklahoma team.
07:07 <+jr19> yeah a lot of the teams in the big 12 aren't that great this year
07:08 <+jr19> people say the big ten has a lot of great teams, but i'm still on the fence with some of them
07:08 <+jr19> like purdue...i just dont see them being as good as everyone says
07:08 < Jayhawker> Purdue hasn't impressed me yet. Michigan State has been a bit disappointing, too.
07:09 <+jr19> and they did lose to ohio state, but ohio state isn't terrible + they have evan turner
07:09 < Jayhawker> I think the Big 12 is actually pretty good. It looks like the bad teams (Colorado, Nebraska, Texas Tech) are better than they were a year ago.
07:10 <+jr19> i watched the Iowa/Penn State game today....that was just terrible basketball
07:10 < Jayhawker> Nebraska still isn't very good, though. Tech was nearly ranked before coming into conference play. Colorado put up a good fight against KansS State today.
07:10 < Jayhawker> Ah. I thought Penn State would be respectable. They won the NIT last year, which is nothing to be ashamed of.
07:10 <+jr19> no
07:11 <+jr19> they have some post guys who are upperclassmen and have experience too
07:11 <+jr19> but they didn't look like it today
07:11 < Jayhawker> Well, yeah. they've been awful. They've been a disappointment.
07:11 <+jr19> because Iowa has nothing
07:12 <+jr19> alright i'm out, have a good one
07:13 < Jayhawker> Later, sir. I'm actually about to go offline, too. I need to be up at a reasonably early hour tomorrow.
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07:23 < _Auron_> Barrett: lol.
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07:40 < Spengo> huh
07:40 < Spengo> why does this stargate show continue
07:40 < Spengo> they defeated all the evil bad guys in the universe
07:40 < Spengo> what is left to show
07:40 < Spengo> well the galaxy anyway
07:43 <@BrandonW> There's still the power vaccuum left by the defeat of the Goa'uld.
07:43 <@BrandonW> And the discoveries on the Ancient ship Destiny.
07:43 <@BrandonW> And still Atlantis.
07:44 <@BrandonW> The Lucian Alliance is sort of filling that void.
07:44 <@BrandonW> I predict they'll have more of a presence in Universe, even though that would be stupid.
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08:01 < Spengo> BrandonW, right now I'm watching daniel dick around with that really annoying chick who tried to steal the spaceship and pretending to be indiana jones
08:02 < Spengo> it seems kind of stupid
08:02 <@BrandonW> You'll have to be a little more specific.
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08:06 < Spengo> they found a merlin hologram
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08:44 < tr1p1ea> she substituted the spaceship for a bag of sand?
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09:51 <@BrandonW> French subtitles for this TV episode I'm watching translated "Sweet." to "Cool."
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10:38 < tr1p1ea> better tan 'Sugary"
10:38 < tr1p1ea> than "*
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11:52 <@efneTI92> [leofox] All we do in hell is play DDR!
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12:04 < tr1p1ea> http://xkcd.com/138/
12:04 < tr1p1ea> lol
12:08 < leofox> tr1p1ea: if you had a game genie that could be helpful
12:08 < leofox> if it was the pointer to where the number of lives is saved or w/e
12:08 < tr1p1ea> :P
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12:17 <+kirsk> hey guys
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13:47 <+kirsk> how might i set a limit on my router for the number of connections for a protocol?
13:48 <+kirsk> like, limit torrents  to 50 connections total
13:53 < leofox> depends on the router
13:53 < leofox> if you want to limit torrents I'd use the settings of your client
13:53 <+kirsk> its not on my pc
13:56 < leofox> then it really depends on your router
13:56 < leofox> if it's supported at all
13:56 <+kirsk> what about third party firmware
13:56 <+kirsk> dd-wrt or something
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14:41 <+kirsk> also
14:41 <+kirsk> fuck yeah work again tomorrow
14:50 <+kirsk> what's a nice netbook with full hd playback capability?
14:51 <+kirsk> I know there are a few with Ion chipset
14:53 < Nefff> how do i make my calculator trace more precisely when graphing
14:53 < Nefff> do i need to change the zoom or something?
14:54 <+kirsk> yes
14:56 < Nefff> but if i change the zoom then i can't see the whole graph
14:56 <+kirsk> sucks
14:57 <+kirsk> what was that other thing
14:57 <+kirsk> stepping or something
14:57 < Nefff> is there a way to limit the trace 
14:57 < Nefff> hrm
14:57 <+kirsk> delta x ?
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15:08 <+kirsk> http://images.4chan.org/g/src/1263732599357.jpg
15:11 < incubus> ?
15:12 <+kirsk> hiyo
15:12 < incubus> Why funny
15:12 <+kirsk> wat
15:12 < incubus> WHY        FUNNY
15:12 < incubus> ?
15:12 <+kirsk> erm because using the mouse in the biossetup screen?
15:12 <+kirsk> also, a woman trying to use a computer
15:13 < incubus> ? wait is this the actual pic?
15:13 < incubus> I thought the BIOS screen was shooped on
15:13 < incubus> and yes
15:13 <@Andy_J> there actually are some (really old) BIOS setups that use the mouse
15:13 < incubus> Women on computers is always a hilarious pic
15:13 < incubus> :D
15:14 <+kirsk> Andy_J: phenom II x4
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15:37 < tev> Nefff: You can use parametric graphing to set the trace increment independently of the viewing window.
15:38 < tev> You can still graph a function by setting the x component to t and the y component to the function (except for using t as the independent variable instead of x)
15:38 < tev> And on the WINDOW or RANGE screen tmin, tmax, and tstep control the trace range.
15:40 < Nefff> hrm
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15:46 < Nefff> if i change the FLOAT value that limites the trace too?
15:47 < Nefff> it rounds it so it shows the nearest coordinate 
15:47 < Nefff> which is actually what i wanted
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15:52 < tev> Well, it rounds both X and Y, but be aware that it's actually calculating and rounding Y for the unrounded version of X rather than the rounded version of X that it displays.
15:53 < Nefff> right
15:53 < Nefff> i just wanted it to display like it does in my book
16:03 <+doc_who> morning
16:04 < Randomist> *Munching:*  Morning.
16:13 < Randomist> I'm trying to figure out the best way to move everything around in this room.
16:13 < bsparks> 1) Sign off of IRC.
16:13 < bsparks> 2) Paint everything in thermite.
16:13 < bsparks> 3) Physical labor.
16:15 < Randomist> http://wintervenom.brandonw.net/Photos/College/ (Dorm {1,2}), and there's another bed off to the left of me.
16:16  * Randomist thinks...
16:16 < bsparks> why does anything ne rearranged?
16:16 <+doc_who> feng shui
16:16 < incubus> do you really need all that shit on the window sill?
16:16 < incubus> I mean shit are you a woman?
16:17 < Randomist> incubus:  Nowhere else to put it.  :P
16:20 < i_c-Y> you're a lot more organized than i am
16:24 < i_c-Y> my room layout is quite simple. http://xs.to/image-F4E3_4B53399F.jpg is what i have, Randomist 
16:26 < bsparks> yay Coffee!
16:27 < i_c-Y> thats where my coffee machine / electric kettle goes.
16:28 < bsparks> I should go make some, now that I am thinking about it
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17:27 <@efneTI92> [KermM] http://www.cemetech.net :: Leading The Way to the Future
17:28 < E-J> i_c-Y: big suitcase ... ah it's not only thing that people carry around when travelling ...
17:29 < Randomist> Explosive underwear!
17:42 <@BrandonW> I wish I had a room with big white boxes!
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17:56 < KermM> @ BrandonW: ?
17:59 <@BrandonW> i_c-Y's oversimplified picture.
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18:04 < bsparks> well this sucks :/ I can't get the program to run to add the 81 ROM to emu8x >.<
18:15 <+sir_lewk> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUdNJOnhvhM&feature=related hax
18:30 <@nikky> come on losers
18:32 <+sir_lewk> hillbilly
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18:40 <+sir_lewk> I am sorry, that was mean :(
18:41 <+sir_lewk> http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/17/science/space/17nasa.html I'm gonna buy me a fucking space shuttle
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19:18 < Genolo> someone link me that windows disc thing again
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19:19 <+sir_lewk> http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/12/Live/i686/Fedora-12-i686-Live.iso
19:20 <+sir_lewk> Genolo: ^
19:20 < Genolo> wtf would that do
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19:20 < Genolo> unless it has some magically windows bootloader fix
19:21 < i_c-Y> dude
19:21 < i_c-Y> didn't you make the recovery discs befreo you started fucking everything up?
19:21 < i_c-Y> do you have a vista disc?
19:21 < Genolo> no
19:21 < Genolo> my old laptop ran vista so i should
19:21 < Genolo> i should download one
19:22 < Genolo> and write my key on it
19:22 < i_c-Y> you can use vista discs to do the repair as well.
19:22 <+sir_lewk> 1) Install grub
19:22 <+sir_lewk> 2) chainload windoze
19:22 < Genolo> grub is already installed sir
19:22 <+sir_lewk> 3) profit!!!
19:22 < Genolo> i try to run windows and it says bootmgr is missing
19:23 <+sir_lewk> 1) boot linux
19:23 < i_c-Y> Genolo: why didn't you make the recovery discs before you started fucking eberything up?
19:23 <+sir_lewk> 2) dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/windowspartition
19:23 <+sir_lewk> 3) profit!!!
19:23 < Genolo> because it needed to be on like
19:23 < Genolo> three discs
19:24 < Genolo> i started to do it
19:24 < i_c-Y> OH NO 3 DISCS
19:24 < Genolo> but then it was like
19:24 < i_c-Y> shut the fuck up, sir_lewk 
19:24 < Genolo> "this disc is corrupted"
19:24 < Genolo> or some shit
19:24 < i_c-Y> you're retarded, Genolo 
19:24 < Genolo> after like halfway through the first disc
19:24 < Genolo> so i was just like fuck this
19:24 <+sir_lewk> just trying to help
19:24 < i_c-Y> http://neosmart.net/blog/2009/windows-7-system-repair-discs/
19:25 < i_c-Y> go download them from there
19:25 < i_c-Y> quick n easy torrents
19:25 < Genolo> thanks
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19:27 < i_c-Y> next time don't do something stupid.
19:27 < i_c-Y> i know its hard for you
19:27 < i_c-Y> but you'll have to resist the urge
19:30 < Genolo> i'll try
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19:30 <+doc_who> lol
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19:31 < i_c-Y> Genolo: don't be an idiot and use the wrong disc for your machine
19:32 < i_c-Y> ie use 64 bit if you have win 7 64
19:32 < i_c-Y> 32 if you have win 7 32
19:32 < Genolo> yeah i know
19:33 < Genolo> i'm probably going to fuck something up with this disc
19:35 < i_c-Y> the story of your life.
19:35 < i_c-Y> if you had just burned the recovery discs you wouldn't be in this predicament.
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19:39 < i_c-Y> Barrett is probably on windows 7
19:39 < Barrett> indeed
19:40 < i_c-Y> he could make you a recovery disc if that fails
19:40 < i_c-Y> start -> all programs -> maintainence -> create disc or whatever
19:40 < i_c-Y> create a system repair disc
19:43 <+sir_lewk> make sure to burn the disk to the iso is a file on it
19:43 < i_c-Y> i seriously wonder why more of you weren't aborted.
19:44 < bsparks> i_c-Y, same reason you weren't 
19:44 < i_c-Y> the rest of your parents are catholic too?
19:44 <@nikky> Be nice i_c-Y 
19:45 < i_c-Y> and im the most awesome person in the world? which the rest of you are not.
19:47 < i_c-Y> must be the former then.they could be jews or pro life too.
19:47 < bsparks> If you had to pick between Perl or Python, which would you pick? 
19:47 <@nikky> perl
19:47 < Spengo> perl for sure
19:48 < i_c-Y> perl. 
19:48 < Spengo> man who would even ask such a question :V
19:49 < bsparks> just wonderin
19:50 <+sir_lewk> perl
19:52 < Barrett> perl
19:52 < V200> definitely perl
19:54 <+sir_lewk> well, seems there is one thing we can all agree on :)
19:54 < bsparks> :)
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20:02 <+sir_lewk> Goplat: say "perl"
20:02 <+doc_who> python
20:02 < Goplat> ruby
20:03 < bsparks> fuck Ruby
20:03 <+doc_who> scheme
20:03 <+sir_lewk> bastards
20:03 < Goplat> qbasic
20:03 < bsparks> In reality, I am gonna learn Perl and Python, but I was just figuring out which to learn first. 
20:03 < i_c-Y> well, we've already mentioned the only opinion that matters - mine, so this is rather pointless.
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20:09 <+sir_lewk> perl is worth learning first
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20:10 <+sir_lewk> because once you know perl you won't bother wasting your time with python
20:14 < Goplat> the great thing about perl is you can write things like
20:14 < Goplat> $}=32;print$"x$},(map$_?"##":$"x2,@;=(1,map$_^$;[++$*],@;)),$*=$/while$}--
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20:15 <+sir_lewk> ^^
20:15 <+sir_lewk> perl kicks python's ass for one-liners alone
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20:17 < bsparks> It's annoying how my netbook HAS a manager for what device to boot, but I can't make that manager come up by default on boot
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20:26 <+sir_lewk> troubliiing sir
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20:34 <+ports-> sir_lewk, pew pew pew
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20:35 <@efneTI92> [Tyler2] I no longer speak fluent dialup.
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20:35 <+ports-> Goplat, what does that perl string do
20:35 < Goplat> it just draws a neat pattern to stdout
20:36 <+ports-> oh
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20:44 < OxPhone> anyone here have a minute, a web server, and an svn client?
20:44 < i_c-Y> yes.
20:45 < OxPhone> i need redline, the "php engine", am on a phne, and its only available in svn
20:45 < OxPhone> *on svn
20:46 < OxPhone> i need a zip of the subversion trunk :-\
20:46 < i_c-Y> php-redline on google code?
20:46 < OxPhone> yarp
20:47 < OxPhone> O:-)
20:47 < i_c-Y> ill just put it on ifile.it : http://ifile.it/z71l4s8/php-redline-read-only.rar
20:49  * sir_lewk crashes and burns
20:49 <+sir_lewk> apparently bram stroker's dracula stars keanu reeves and winona ryder
20:49 <+sir_lewk> how much awesome is that?
20:49 <+sir_lewk> and keanu reeves is trying to speak with a britishly accent
20:49 <+sir_lewk> so hilarious
20:51 < OxPhone> thanks icy :-)
20:51 < i_c-Y> OxPhone: your phone doesnt have a svn client? what phone is it?
20:52 < i_c-Y> and dont you have svn on barrett's box?
20:53 <+sir_lewk> why the hell would you need an svn client on a phone?
20:53 <+sir_lewk> surely you are not doing development on a telephone?
20:53 < i_c-Y> why not?
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20:54 < i_c-Y> http://old.nabble.com/svnkit-on-the-Android-operating-systems---some-ideas-and-hints-td24786935.html for android anyway
20:54 <+sir_lewk> do telephones even have text editors and compilers?
20:54 < i_c-Y> sure, why not?
20:55 < OxPhone> no, i dont have an  svn client... i just want to download the zip and transfer it to my computer
20:55 < i_c-Y> you lazy bum :)
20:56 < i_c-Y> you could have just installed tortisesvn and it would have been a 10 second job
20:56 < i_c-Y> or if you have cygwin, just copypasta the command they give you
20:56 < OxPhone> on my phone?
20:56 < OxPhone> i have no internet access on my computer.........
20:57 < i_c-Y> can't you tether your phone for your pc?
20:57 < OxPhone> im not rooted yet
20:58 <+sir_lewk> can't you "tether" or something with cellular telephones?
20:58 <+sir_lewk> hmm, ssh lag
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21:07 < i_c-Y> well if it isnt Merthsoft 
21:07 < KermM> i_c-Y, your mom is a ten-second job
21:07 < i_c-Y> all you just said is that you last 10 seconds.
21:07 < i_c-Y> which is quite pathetic.
21:07 < OxPhone> ...
21:09 < i_c-Y> ...
21:10 <+jr19> OxPhone: what kind of phone is it
21:10 <+sir_lewk> failphone
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21:13 < bsparks> considering he said "rooted" I am guessing an Android device, probably a G1
21:14 <+sir_lewk> the concept of rooting a device you own is baffling
21:14 < i_c-Y> what the fuck is wrong with google fast flip
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21:16 < i_c-Y> i should rule the news.
21:16 < i_c-Y> seriously
21:16 < i_c-Y> what the fuck.
21:16 < bsparks> goddamn i_c-Y, if your ego gets any bigger the channel limit is gonna be reached
21:17 < i_c-Y> merryl streep kissing sandra bullock is front page news? what the fuck, google. 
21:17 < i_c-Y> merryl streep was already fuckin old in the deer hunter.
21:17 < i_c-Y> and that was like 40 years ago
21:18 < bsparks> 1 r in meryl 
21:18 <+sir_lewk> sandra bullock is hot
21:18 < bsparks> Also, i_c-Y, you realized you just said she was old when she was 20 years old, right?
21:19 < bsparks> if, indeed, that movie is 40 years old ;)
21:20 < i_c-Y> actually, its 1978 
21:20 < i_c-Y> so she was 28.
21:20 <+sir_lewk> bsparks: that is too old for i_c-Y 
21:20 < i_c-Y> and still looked older than 28.
21:20 < bsparks> sir_lewk, I forgot i_c-Y liked them preteen
21:20 <+sir_lewk> i_c-Y likes to rob the cradle
21:20 < bsparks> s/cradle/womb/
21:20 < i_c-Y> http://intoxicologist.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/kristen-bell-heroes-1.jpg
21:21 < i_c-Y> thats how 28 year olds should look.
21:21 < bsparks> fake?
21:21 < i_c-Y> http://celebhairstyle.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/jessica-alba.jpg is acceptable too.
21:21 < i_c-Y> http://fusedfilm.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/keira-knightley-6.jpg is acceptable too.
21:22 < i_c-Y> but shes 24
21:22 < bsparks> kristen bell is obviously malnourished in that pic
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21:22 < i_c-Y> kiera knightley is usually malnourished, but shes good in that picture.
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21:24 < i_c-Y> anyhow, bsparks , my estimate of 40 years was based on the fact that i thought meryl streep was like 70 something.
21:24 < bsparks> She doesn't even look close to 70!
21:24 < i_c-Y> the only good part of th edeer hunter is when christopher walken shoots himself in the head.
21:24 <@BrandonW> Christopher Walken is a great man, don't you say anything remotely negative about him.
21:25 < bsparks> ^
21:25 < i_c-Y> bsparks: i didnt say anything negative about him
21:25 < i_c-Y> it was the only well done scene in the entire movie!
21:25 < bsparks> BrandonW, not to mention the fact that he is a good actor too
21:34 <+sir_lewk> he is a superb actor
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21:38 <+sir_lewk> almost as good as keanu reeves
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21:40 < i_c-Y> not really. keanu reeves just has bill & ted, the matrix (first one is the only good one) and constantine. 
21:40 < i_c-Y> i heard the a scanner darkly movie sucked.
21:41 <@BrandonW> It did.
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21:42 <+sir_lewk> bram stroker's dracula is pretty awesome so far
21:43 <@BrandonW> It is.
21:43 <+sir_lewk> keanu reeves is all "whoooa, vampires dude", but in a bad english accent
21:44 <@BrandonW> "I know Kung Fu."
21:44 <@BrandonW> "No...you don't."
21:44 <+sir_lewk> oh, I picked up a dvd copy of Point Break last night
21:44 <@BrandonW> Celebrity Jeopardy is the greatest skit ever.
21:44 <+sir_lewk> *that* is an awesome movie
21:44 <@BrandonW> It is.
21:45 <+sir_lewk> celebrity jeopardy is indeed the best skit ever too
21:45 <+sir_lewk> it was only $2 too :D
21:46 <+sir_lewk> used of course, case in pretty bad condition
21:46 < Jonimus> Bill & Ted FTW
21:47 <@BrandonW> I watched Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure a couple of nights ago.
21:47 <@BrandonW> "Yeah, Death, you played most excellently." "Don't patronize me." "Whatever, dude, but you got a lot to learn about sportsmanship."
21:47 <@BrandonW> The second one's good, too.
21:49 <+sir_lewk> glass coffin, awesome
21:50 <+sir_lewk> "I just want to cut off her head, and take out her heart" lmao wtf
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21:56 <+sir_lewk> man, anthony hopkins is superb in this movie
21:56 <@BrandonW> Of course, it's Anthony Hopkins.
21:57 <+sir_lewk> soooo good
21:57 <+sir_lewk> I'm waiting for him to eat dracula's liver
21:59 < bsparks> 2 hours later, and LMMS is still installing, woo :/
22:00 <+sir_lewk> what is lmms?
22:00 < bsparks> It's a music creation program, kinda like FruityLoops Studio 
22:01 <+doc_who> some linux thing
22:01 <+sir_lewk> ah
22:02 < bsparks> doc_who, except there are windows and mac ports too
22:02 <+doc_who> oh
22:03 < bsparks> I need timestamps on Terminal, damn
22:04 <@nikky> Hey guys.
22:08 <+sir_lewk> yum install lmms  22.28s user 4.43s system 25% cpu 1:44.27 total
22:08 <+sir_lewk> so hard >_>
22:08 <@nikky> hehe, yun
22:08 <@nikky> yum
22:10 <+sir_lewk> nooo
22:10 <+sir_lewk> winona ryder is a vampire now :(
22:11 <@BrandonW> Not really.
22:11 <@BrandonW> She's under his spell.
22:12 <+sir_lewk> still so hot
22:13 < Jonimus> what are you guys talking about?
22:13 <@nikky> ignore it
22:13 <@nikky> talk about calculators instead
22:14 <@BrandonW> Brahm Stoker's Dracula movie.
22:17 < bsparks> I have spent the past 4 hours of my life on this webpage, and it's my 5th visit, I am still very pleased :) http://www.totalrewind.org/mainhall.htm
22:18 <@BrandonW> THAT'S NOT CALCULATORS
22:19 < bsparks> there's no good calculator history websites, aside from like, datamath, and that is a bitch to navigate 
22:19 <@BrandonW> There was an attempt by Omnimaga people to flesh out the WikiTI page, I think.
22:19 <@BrandonW> And by that, I mean there was a thread on it somewhere.
22:20 < bsparks> I'm trying to find a good website for telephone stuffs. 
22:21 <+jr19> what kind of telephone stuff
22:21 <@BrandonW> chronomex knows all kinds of phone stuff.
22:21 < Jonimus> BrandonW: what do you mean flesh our?
22:21 <@BrandonW> Old ones, that is.
22:21 <@chronomex> hi.
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22:21 < bsparks> something akin to totalrewind.org or earlytelevision.org basically virtual museums 
22:21 <@chronomex> you pinged?
22:21 <@BrandonW> I mean add more content to.
22:24 < bsparks> chronomex, just wondering if there were any good virtual museums for telephones and such
22:24 < Jonimus> ahh well that wouldn't be bad as long as they are not just copypasta from TI's docs
22:24 <@chronomex> bsparks: search for photosets of the "museum of communications in seattle" on flickr
22:25 <@BrandonW> Jonimus, it would be a chronicling of OS/model/hardware releases and that sort of thing.
22:25 <@BrandonW> Stuff that TI has no documents for.
22:25 < bsparks> chronomex, but would that provide me with plenty of text to read aswell?
22:26 <@chronomex> nope
22:26 <@chronomex> there's not much text online
22:26 < Jonimus> ahh nice, though really if someone just remade datamath to not suck that would work too
22:26 < bsparks> :(
22:26 <@chronomex> go to a good library and find a series called "a history of engineering and science in the bell system"
22:26 <@chronomex> it's like a 5-part series of 3-inch-thick books
22:26 <@chronomex> just a cursory overview
22:27 <@chronomex> you should see the source material
22:27 < Dan_E> What's wrong with datamath?
22:27 < Jonimus> the navigation is a pain
22:27 < bsparks> ^
22:28 <@chronomex> must be something wrong with you guys, I'm able to navigate it just fine
22:28 <@BrandonW> It's a little hard to link to.
22:28 <@chronomex> ;)
22:28 <@chronomex> yeah, the frames don't help too much
22:28 <@BrandonW> The calculator pages also spring up a large picture of the calculator.
22:28 <@BrandonW> I find that annoying as sin.
22:29 < Jonimus> BrandonW: most popup blockers fix that
22:29 <@BrandonW> I don't care, I shouldn't need one.
22:30 < Dan_E> Well, I agree the frames are a little annoying ,but I find the site usable at least.
22:31 < bsparks> It's usable if you need to find like, ONE piece of info, but if I want to just browse around and stuff, it becomes a pain
22:31 < Jonimus> its usable which is better than most of the flash sites I've seen, but still it could use a reworking, maybe wiki style or somesuch
22:31 <@chronomex> I've found it less than stellar for comparing two models
22:31 <@BrandonW> It's not an appropriate place to put the entire calculator community history, at any rate.
22:31 < Jonimus> yeah WikiTI would really be better
22:32 < Jonimus> or the TIBasicDev wiki
22:32 < Jonimus> both would be good
22:32 <@BrandonW> I'm really impressed with that wiki, by the way.
22:32 < bsparks> chronomex, baww :( my library doesn't have it
22:32 < Jonimus> I've been meaning to add more 86 stuff to wikiti but I've been to lazy
22:32 <+sir_lewk> that was good stuf
22:33 <@chronomex> bsparks: lame, it's a great series
22:33 < bsparks> chronomex, I'm sure it is :/ if I had an e-reader I'd probably look into renting/buying it digitally 
22:35 <@chronomex> it's not in digital form, I'm pretty sure
22:35 < bsparks> Damn
22:36 < bsparks> it's on google books >_>
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22:36 < bsparks> oh, damn, yeah, not in digital form
22:36 <+krisk> avatar is AMAZING
22:37 < bsparks> krisk, shut up, it's calculator talk time
22:37 <@chronomex> ^
22:37 < bsparks> I want to devise a long-distance way to link to calculators. Effectively 
22:38 < bsparks> I wish I could do it over the telephone 
22:38 < Jonimus> krisk: yeah thats a given
22:39 < leofox> krisk: true
22:39 < leofox> did you see it in the xpand thing
22:39 <@BrandonW> Do it over the internet.
22:39 <+krisk> wat
22:39 < Jonimus> BrandonW: well there is no way to do that yet
22:39 < leofox> xpand, isnt that the name of the imax cinema over there
22:39 <+krisk> no
22:39 <@BrandonW> Jonimus, why not? All you need's a graphlink cable.
22:40 <@BrandonW> You have to be tethered to a PC, sure, but it could work.
22:40 < Jonimus> oh, really?
22:40 < bsparks> BrandonW, can something like a Java applet talk to a calculator?
22:40 < Jonimus> hmm yeah with telnet8x I forgot about that
22:40 < bsparks> oh, telnet8x, right
22:40 <@BrandonW> All you need to do is be able to talk to an IP (which I'm sure you could write something in Java for), and the PC at that IP can proxy messages to/from the calculator through the graphlink cable.
22:40 <+krisk> i liked how the dumbasses next to me who were saying "WOAH" "OMG" at the start were at a loss for words for the rest of the movie
22:40 <@BrandonW> That's pretty much what that remote control PHP page did.
22:41 < bsparks> chronomex, it's not available for movement or check-out at any library in Ohio
22:41 < bsparks> this sucks :( I wonder how much it is on amazon
22:42 < leofox> krisk: so, are you going to learn na'vi with tari and me? ;)
22:43 <+krisk> no
22:43 <+krisk> but the movie did hit the dreamer in me
22:43 < Jonimus> leofox: don't forget me
22:43 < Jonimus> not that I've gotten very far but still
22:43 < leofox> oh and Jonimus
22:43 < Jonimus> and Goplat 
22:43 < leofox> oel ngati kameie
22:44 <+krisk> it was a movie where what i imagined should happen actually happened
22:44 <+krisk> and i loved the whole nature thing
22:44 <@chronomex> bsparks: if you're going to buy it, certain volumes are more interesting than others
22:45 <@chronomex> the titles help with that
22:45 < Jonimus> kaltxi ma leofox 
22:45  * chronomex afk
22:45 < leofox> :D
22:45 <+krisk> i was really going FUCK YEAH in my mind when the big change in the battle came
22:45 < leofox> Jonimus: you should go to the teampseak thing
22:45 < Jonimus> leofox: where is that?
22:45 < leofox> http://forum.learnnavi.org/your-projects-other-resources/if-i-was-to-host-a-teamspeak-server/15/
22:45 < leofox> read that
22:46 < Jonimus> ahh kk
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22:47 < bsparks> chronomex, there are only 5 though, right?
22:48 <+krisk> also, during that ritual mind transfer thing my friend - who feels absolutely nothing for psy/hippie/alt stuff - said to me that was like an amazing goa party hehe
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23:02 < Genolo> http://genolo.nvm2u.com/img/the_only_thing_macs_are_good_for.jpg
23:03 < Genolo> has anything ever been so true
23:03 <+rcfreak0|> heh
23:03 <+sir_lewk> [1;3C/exit
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23:04 < leofox> Genolo: you could even better use an actual knife though
23:04 < Genolo> good point
23:04 < leofox> is that the macbook air?
23:05 < Jonimus> it appears to be one
23:05 <+krisk> leofox did seeing avatar make you happy?
23:05 < leofox> no not really
23:05 < leofox> I was unhappy after seeing it
23:06 <+krisk> : (
23:06 < Jonimus> personally I felt a bit of the depression leofox mentioned earlier, but I may have a very mild depression to begin with so yeah
23:06 < Genolo> my friend wants me to get him a rom and i don't remember my username on romulation
23:06 < Genolo> let alone my password
23:06 < Genolo> :(
23:06 < Jonimus> pirate :P
23:06 < leofox> I ended up sitting in my room looking at picture of trains
23:06 < leofox> pictures
23:06 <+krisk> im very happy to know appreciation of this kind of prettyness in things is advocated in some way to the general populous
23:07 < leofox> yeah
23:07 < leofox> personally I think the depression isnt caused by thinking this world is gray and messed up
23:07 < leofox> I think it's because your brain has trouble adjusting to a movie experience that is this real
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23:08 < leofox> it felt like that to me
23:08 <+krisk> and recognizing how closely it got to my own imaginition is making me happy too
23:08 < Genolo> oh jesus christ
23:08 < Genolo> Points: 19932 (What are points?) - Buy points
23:08 < i_c-Y> did you fix your computer yet?
23:08 < Genolo> not windows
23:08 < Genolo> i haven't burned the disc
23:09 <+krisk> sadly google image searching for avatar just gives the gay ass anime
23:09 < Genolo> i'm afraid i'll just break something
23:09 < Genolo> i'm prone to that
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23:11 <+krisk> i think i have to watch it again with a microdose of mushrooms
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23:14 <+krisk> also, i bet the actors for the bad corporate/military guys are getting deaththreats by mail n stuff
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23:15 <@nikky> hi
23:15 < geekboy> hello :)
23:16 < geekboy> who is the login bot again ?
23:16  * geekboy forgot X.x
23:16 <@nikky> any efneti bot
23:16 < geekboy> hmm and teh command ??
23:16 <@nikky> /msg efneti86 help ident
23:16 < geekboy> k ty :)
23:16 < Goplat> krisk: is anyone really that stupid?
23:17 < geekboy> it says no access :/
23:17 < Goplat> oh, what am I saying... of course they are :(
23:17 <+krisk> Goplat: I bet some people are
23:17 <+krisk> though it may have been avoided by killing them off
23:20 < geekboy> brb reboot
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23:24 < Goplat> krisk: selfridge didn't die iirc, he just had to go back to Earth
23:24 <+krisk> oh yeah him
23:24 < Goplat> although, considering the condition Earth is going to be in in 2154, maybe there's not so much difference ;)
23:24 <+krisk> he'll get hatemail for sure
23:29 < leofox> I still think 20mil/kilo is pretty cheap for something coming all the way from Alpha Centauri
23:29 < leofox> I think moon rocks are a lot more expensive
23:30 <+krisk> really?
23:30 <+krisk> maybe you should be impressed that theyre still 20 mill/kg even though we have all that technology to get it relatively easily, if it werent for some blue indiginous peoples
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23:30 < Spengo> that was a terrible movie
23:31 <+krisk> you are a terrible man
23:31 <+Netham45> I liked avatar
23:31 < leofox> you have no soul
23:31 < Spengo> it was just like the transformers movies just not quite that bad
23:31 < Spengo> ridiculous story
23:31  * geekboy still hasnt seen avatar
23:31 < leofox> @spengo
23:31 < Spengo> cool special effects
23:31 <+krisk> the story is cliche, not ridiculous
23:31 < leofox> it's a good story
23:31 < Spengo> it's both cliche AND ridiculous
23:31 < leofox> it was good 50 years ago in dances with wolves
23:32 < leofox> it still is
23:32 < Spengo> what's stopping humans from nuking from orbit
23:32 <+Netham45> lack of nukes
23:32 < leofox> Spengo: RDA cant use WMDs
23:32 < Spengo> not that they realyl would have been able to resist on the surface in the first place
23:32 < Spengo> god damn ewok fight is what it was
23:32 <+Netham45> lol
23:32 < leofox> they arent allowed by the earth goverments
23:32 <+krisk> also, shareholders didnt want ugly pr
23:32 < Spengo> it still should not have been difficult at all to wipe them out with armor and air support
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23:33 < Spengo> it's so contrived
23:33 < leofox> Spengo: this wasnt the US army or anything you know
23:33 <+krisk> Spengo: it was without proper intel
23:33 < leofox> it's a private company
23:33 <+krisk> Spengo: also see: vietnam war
23:33 <+krisk> also see: iraq
23:33 <+krisk> also see: afghanistan
23:33 < Spengo> the vietnamese had more than bows and arrows
23:33 <+Netham45> I thought it was the US army acting as mercs for a company
23:33 <+Netham45> so did the Na'vi
23:33 <+krisk> they didnt have fucking dragons did they
23:33 < Spengo> see the expansion of the US :P
23:33 < leofox> it's like Blackwater
23:33 <+Netham45> they had birds
23:33 <+Netham45> big birds
23:34 <+krisk> and horsees
23:34 < leofox> a company with mercenaries, mostly ex-marines
23:34 < leofox> yeah and also the na'vi knew the terrain really well
23:34 < Spengo> blackwater has plenty of resources
23:34 < Spengo> they are pretty cool
23:34 <+Netham45> and the planet that was a brain
23:34 <+krisk> the only thing i didnt get is why he didnt teach them how to make explosives or something
23:35 <@nikky> WE ARE UNDER ATTACK
23:35 < Randomist> *Shouting:*  Sound the alarm!
23:35 <+Netham45> krisk, I don't think they wanted something of that power.
23:36 <+krisk> maybe, and i mean i know it wouldnt have worked for the movie anyway, but its the only thing that came up that didnt make tactical sense
23:36 <+Netham45> well
23:36 <+Netham45> they would have had to had forged the explosives
23:36 <+krisk> and evidently they wouldve gotten completely slaughtered if the animals didnt help
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23:37 <+Netham45> and it was just a soldier that prolly didn't have knowledge of explosives, beyond "stay away".
23:37 <+krisk> yeah that could
23:37 <+krisk> it would be one of the first things id at least bring up in the discussion of how to counterattack a mechanised army
23:39 <+krisk> it doesnt break the movie of course, i guess i can understand why it didnt come up. and that being the only thing that came to mind but wasnt used in the movie goes to show how amazing everything else about it was
23:39 < Spengo> I liked district 9 a lot better
23:39 <+Netham45> well, still, it'd be hard to teach the Na'vi how to get the materials to make them, how to put the materials together, and how to use the explosives, along with the time required to actually perform those tasks, in such a short time.
23:40 <+krisk> i liked it too but it didnt synch with my imagination as much as avatar did and its nowhere near the same story
23:40 < Spengo> eh, black powder's pretty simple to make
23:40 < Spengo> I just meant, as a recent sci-fi film
23:40 <+krisk> Netham45: eh if some desert guys in iraq can do it so can the na'vi guys
23:41 < Spengo> potassium nitrate, charcoal, and sulfur
23:41 < Spengo> that's all you need
23:42 <+Netham45> And the navi would ask what potassium nitrate, charcoal, and sulfur are.
23:42 <+krisk> yeah
23:42 <+krisk> i get that its totally alien to them and maybe it wasnt possible at all on pandora, but if i was whatshisname i'd at least ask something like 'so blue guys, can we make something that goes boom to rpelace those silly arrows of you?'
23:42 < Spengo> sodium nitrate works too I herad
23:42 < Spengo> but not as good
23:43 < leofox> I like the word for boom
23:43 < leofox> "kxangang"
23:44 <+krisk> for tree or for kaboom?
23:44 < leofox> kaboom
23:44 <+krisk> wats the word for tree
23:44 < leofox> it's an onomatopeia
23:44 < leofox> krisk: i dont know, let me look it up
23:44 < Goplat> "tree" = utral
23:44 <+krisk> also, "chickie"
23:44 <+krisk> :P
23:45 < leofox> wel tsmuke is sister
23:46 < leofox> that might work
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23:47 < Barrett_> Netham45, any idea what your server has been doing for the last few hours?
23:49 < Spengo> myst was a good game
23:49 < Spengo> how come no one makes games like that anymore
23:50 <@nikky> because myst sucked
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23:50 < Spengo> no u
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23:54 <+krisk> anyway, it was $200,000,000+ well spent
23:54 < _Auron_> wut
23:56  * nikky licks _Auron_ 
23:56 <+krisk> last i heard vatar's budget went over 200mil
23:56 < _Auron_> slight progress with andre today, though probably still wishful thinking
23:57 <+jr19> that's pricey
23:57 < Barrett> _Auron_, is that the one you were talking about a few weeks ago? where you work?
23:57 <+jr19> _Auron_: what device might your game be shipped with?
23:57 < Jonimus> jr19: yeah but its made way more than that already iirc
23:57 < _Auron_> jr19: entourage edge.
23:57 < _Auron_> Barrett: yes
23:57 <+jr19> Jonimus: do you know how much it made opening weekend?
23:58 < Jonimus> I know I saw it somewhere but its already approaching Titanic iirc
23:58 < Barrett> http://boxofficemojo.com/alltime/world/
23:58 < Barrett> Jonimus, ^
23:58 < Jonimus> and that is including dvd and vhs sales of titanic
23:58 < E-J> Jonimus: but not the ice berg?
23:58 < _Auron_> BAZINGA!
23:59 <+jr19> neat
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