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00:29 <@efneTI92> [Tyler2] I no longer speak fluent dialup.
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00:42 <@BrandonW> Congratulations, _Auron_.
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00:45 <@BrandonW> It's not that enterprise Nexus phone, isn't it?
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00:47 <+jr19> whatever it is, thats still pretty cool
00:47 <+ports> jr19, are you at home now?
00:47 <+jr19> no im on my phone
00:47 <+ports> jr19, oh
00:48 <+jr19> i just ate dinner at my parents
00:49 <+ports> cool
00:49 <+ports> im looking for something to do
00:49 <+ports> jr19, jessie apparently had a one night stand with some guy a few nights ago... and she calls me a whore.
00:49 <+jr19> it was me
00:50 <+ports> you wish you could do that well :P
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00:50 <+jr19> i had a threesome with twins
00:50 <+jr19> enough.
00:50 <+ports> you got foreplay with twins.
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00:51 <+jr19> at least ive never gone hogging
00:51 <+ports> she let me do some awful things to her
00:51 <+jr19> anyway, i need to get brody ready to go, see ya
00:51 <+ports> later
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01:06 < Jonimus> the Windows 7 startup repair thing is failing hard
01:09 < Jonimus> I changed the label on my Win 7 partition and it doesn't realize that to fix things it just sits there, and I don't thing I can just edit the settings with a test editor in Linux any more :(
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01:16 <+ports> oh
01:16 <+ports> fixmbr from recovery console?
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01:21 < Jonimus> yeah Win 7 has a new bootloader setup and a new repair thingy
01:23 <+ports> i know
01:23 <+ports> so far my bootloader problems have been fixed via Vista Boot Pro
01:24 < Jonimus> hmm I wonder if my vista install can fix my Win 7 bootloader issue...
01:24 <+ports> it can
01:24 <+ports> vista boot pro fixes win7
01:24 <+ports> it worked for me
01:24 < Jonimus> hmm ok is that a ISO or what?
01:24 <+ports> no
01:24 <+ports> its a windows app
01:25 <+ports> http://www.vistabootpro.org/
01:25 < Jonimus> ohh so I'll need a working install to use it
01:25 <+ports> yes
01:27 < Jonimus> gah this'll be interesting...
01:33 < i_c-Y> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/sweden/6990753/Weight-Watchers-clinic-floor-collapses-under-dieters.html
01:33 < i_c-Y> 1 < Jonimus> yeah Win 7 has a new bootloader setup and a new repair thingy
01:33 < i_c-Y> it was in win vista.
01:34 < i_c-Y> Jonimus: theres still a recovery console
01:34 < i_c-Y> you can do the things manually with bcdedit
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01:36 < i_c-Y> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc731245(WS.10).aspx among other things
01:36 < Jonimus> KK I'll take a look
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01:46 < bsparks> this sucks :/ looks like I'm not even gonna have the cash to go to the concert tomorrow anyway, FUCK >.<
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02:52 <@BrandonW> Well...
02:52 <@BrandonW> I wrote the 84+ dummy responder, and I get the same issue.
02:52 <@BrandonW> So this is kinda good, kinda bad.
02:53 < bsparks> Indeed
02:54 <@BrandonW> At least I can confirm that the Nspire IS getting my acknowledgement.
02:54 <@BrandonW> Because my 84+ got it.
02:54 < bsparks> this is good
02:55 < Jonimus> So does that mean its a USB8x issue and not the Nspire?
02:55 <@BrandonW> It means it's not an Nspire issue. That's all I know.
02:56 <@BrandonW> When I got it to crash just now, the 84+'s LCD flooded with data.
02:56 <@BrandonW> And the way it's coded, that means it had to have received everything at once from the 84+SE.
02:56 <@BrandonW> Which MEANS...
02:56 <@BrandonW> That the 84+SE isn't really sending anything after the acknowledgement.
02:56 <@BrandonW> It never makes it across to the other one, at least not fully.
02:57 <@BrandonW> Which tells me it might actually be a SendData issue, which I suspected right before I started writing this responder.
02:57 <@BrandonW> usb8x doesn't send "end of data" to the controller in SendData and I never understood why.
02:57 <@BrandonW> It's different from what the OS does.
02:57 <@BrandonW> This could be related.
02:57 < Jonimus> So USB8x is the issue in this case?
02:58 < Jonimus> Or at least that's how it appears?
02:58 <@BrandonW> It's possible.
02:58 <@BrandonW> That's how it appears at the moment.
02:58 <@BrandonW> But I change my mind a lot.
02:58 < Jonimus> lol
03:01 <@BrandonW> Frankly I have no idea what the hell's going on.
03:01 <@BrandonW> But it's a problem sending data to the other calculator.
03:01 <@BrandonW> That's more than I knew yesterday.
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03:08 < bsparks> I still think it's an issue with USB8x, 
03:08 < bsparks> not saying USB8x isn't coded well, but...
03:09 < Jonimus> ^
03:10 <@BrandonW> Yeah, I can see one of the sends to the 84+ is failing.
03:10 < bsparks> stack overflow in USB8x?
03:10 <@BrandonW> With how little knowledge we have, it's amazingly well-coded.
03:10 < Jonimus> I mean with all the past issues with thumbdrives and the rocket launcher, and the numerous other devices people have tried that haven't worked quite right
03:10 < Jonimus> That is very true BrandonW.
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03:14 <@efneTI92> [Randomist] CAUTION:  Exposure to this user may cause neurological damage.
03:16 <@BrandonW> The problem is hunting down where the issue is.
03:17 <@BrandonW> After the 84+SE sends the packet, anything the fake Nspire sends doesn't get received by the 84+SE.
03:17 < bsparks> odd
03:17 <@BrandonW> In fact the fake Nspire crashes, but that's probably just my shitty coding.
03:17 <@BrandonW> I copied and pasted tons of periph8x code.
03:17 < Jonimus> hmm, so is the USB controller not ready for the data yet or is it just ignoring it?
03:18 < Jonimus> On the 84+SE that is.
03:18 <@BrandonW> I want to believe that the 84+SE doesn't send the last packet correctly, and the link is just screwed up at that point.
03:18 < Randomist> What is probably the easiest color of text for human eyes to see on top of a black background?
03:18 <@BrandonW> Black.
03:19 <@BrandonW> It won't hurt that way.
03:19 <@BrandonW> Can't read it either, but if you're the one typing it, it can't be worth looking at anyway.
03:19 <@BrandonW> That was so mean it hurt _me_. :(
03:19 < Jonimus> Randomist: I'm sure studies have been done on this and none have decided upon a "best" one.
03:20 <@BrandonW> If the fake Nspire crashes, the plug gets yanked, whatever, the 84+SE still hangs on exit.
03:20 <@BrandonW> So I think it's the one that's screwed up.
03:20 < bsparks> !qadd Randomist> What is probably the easiest color of text for human eyes to see on top of a black background? | <BrandonW> Black. | <BrandonW> It won't hurt that way. | <BrandonW> Can't read it either, but if you're the one typing it, it can't be worth looking at anyway. | <BrandonW> That was so mean it hurt _me_. :(
03:20 < i_c-Y> Randomist: amber, green, grey are probably good choices.
03:20 <@efneTI86> Quote 1676 added
03:21 < bsparks> I use grey personally
03:21 < Jonimus> BrandonW: hmm so what is different about that last packet to cause that
03:21 <@BrandonW> There's nothing different at all about it...I want to believe it's a random combination of packet lengths that the controller chokes on.
03:21 <@BrandonW> Like if it's choking right at the max packet size, 64 bytes.
03:21 <@BrandonW> I've seen that sort of thing before.
03:22 < bsparks> this myspace music player is damn near pissing me off :/
03:22 < Jonimus> BrandonW: well can you break it down into smaller packets?
03:22 < Jonimus> or no?
03:22 <@BrandonW> No, and the service disconnect command which DOES work is the same exact size.
03:23 < bsparks> Hmm
03:23 <@BrandonW> BUT the Nspire may be doing something special when that happens.
03:23 < bsparks> it may
03:23 <@BrandonW> Like resetting the port or something wacky.
03:23 < bsparks> perhaps!
03:23 < bsparks> IT MAY! :o
03:23 < Randomist> bsparks:  It's MySpace.  Everything is designed for maximum suckiness there.
03:23 <@BrandonW> I'm glad you finally see that, Randomist.
03:24 <@BrandonW> But you probably just feel that way because of some obscure scripting thing they don't support for you.
03:24 < bsparks> Randomist, yeah, but I can't afford to buy this album off of iTunes :( so I am kinda forced to use their music player till I can
03:24 <@BrandonW> And not because it actually is crap.
03:25 < bsparks> BrandonW, think about it, if the software, and calculator were made by the same company, perhaps they do the same thing, and switch to some random nonsensical port when it you need to really acknowldege and because you're not, it's failing?
03:26 <@BrandonW> I refuse to believe it's something like that, because it would mean it's random magic in the usb8x controller we will never ever understand and I'd have to give up.
03:26 <@BrandonW> in the USB controller*
03:26 < bsparks> :(
03:26 < bsparks> it'd be just the stunt TI would pull too
03:26 <@chronomex> RANDOM MAGIC <3
03:26 <@BrandonW> So what I'm going to do instead is send the service disconnect command to the fake Nspire and see if that still fails.
03:26 < bsparks> I wonder if they have looked over USB8x to see how you guys coded it
03:27 <@chronomex> hey hey hey BrandonW have you thought about MagicJack drivers so you could use your calculator by phone?
03:27 <@BrandonW> I have not thought of that.
03:27 < bsparks> ugh, magicjack can suck it
03:27 < Jonimus> ^
03:27 <@BrandonW> I'm sure it uses some scary sound processing that I can't keep up with.
03:28 < bsparks> some customer INSISTED I get it to work with his fax machine, even though I told him that sending a voice over through that glowing box, and sending a fax signal are COMPLETELY different
03:28 <@BrandonW> Unfortunately devices like that tend to use isochronous endpoints.
03:28 < bsparks> BrandonW, and it loads propriteary software to work at all
03:28 <@chronomex> yeah, probably isochronous
03:28 <@BrandonW> But maybe not, who knows.
03:28 <@chronomex> let me check
03:28 <@chronomex> does lsusb tell you?
03:28 <@BrandonW> Isochronous implies you don't really care about the quality of the data coming across.
03:29 <@BrandonW> If that lists device/config descriptors, yes.
03:29 < bsparks> I am going to baseball bat the next fax machine I see
03:29 <@chronomex> ok
03:29 <@BrandonW> Okay...
03:30 <@BrandonW> I sent the service disconnect command instead, and that works.
03:30 <@BrandonW> Just like with the real Nspire.
03:30 < bsparks> ...
03:30 <@BrandonW> And now they're in an infinite loop acknowledging each other.
03:30 <@BrandonW> Which is...right...but wrong.
03:30 < bsparks> XD
03:30 <@chronomex> awesome :P
03:30 < bsparks> "you there?" "yeah, you there?" "yeah, you there?" "yeah, you there?" "yeah, you there?" "yeah, you there?" "yeah, you there?" "yeah, you there?" "yeah, you there?" "yeah, you there?" "yeah, you there?" "yeah, you there?" "yeah, you there?" "yeah, you there?" "yeah, you there?" 
03:31 < Jonimus> lol
03:32 < bsparks> *pulls plug* "yeah, you there?" "..." "hello?" "..." "*sob*"
03:32 <@BrandonW> Except instead of crying, it crashed.
03:32 <@BrandonW> It's emo.
03:33 < bsparks> haha
03:33 < Jonimus> roflchopter
03:33 < bsparks> it slit it's LCD ribbon cable
03:34 < Jonimus> Wouldn't that be more its neck than wrist?
03:34 < bsparks> if it's a real emo it goes for the neck
03:34 < Jonimus> ahh kk 
03:34 <@BrandonW> What I don't understand is the fact that the fake Nspire DOES get the acknowledgement and attempts to process it, so it's not like it got stuck in the 84+SE's buffer and never sent (though I do see that later on).
03:35 <@BrandonW> So it sent successfully, but...it just decides to fall over and die afterward.
03:36 < Jonimus> gah, at least when Linux fails to boot you get a nice message on the screen Windows just reboots :/
03:36 < Jonimus> no kernel messages nothing, I'm trying to fix this blind as a bat
03:38 < i_c-Y> if you werent so incompetent, you would get messages.
03:38 < Jonimus> i_c-Y: well I'm sorry I'm not MS certified like Netham45 
03:39 < i_c-Y> have you tried safe mode?
03:40 < Jonimus> I figured it out I think, somehow my Sata controller got switched to IDE mode even through it was in AHCI mode when I did the install, but either way win 7 boots now
03:41 < Jonimus> but that also means I can't use the extra AHCI features
03:41 < Jonimus> I really wonder how that happened, but w/e it boots
03:42 < i_c-Y> hey Genolo , did you ever figure out how to use those usb ports?
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03:46 <@BrandonW> The usb8x version is missing some port outputs, but it actually is doing what the OS is doing.
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03:47 <@efneTI92> [KermM] http://www.cemetech.net :: Leading The Way to the Future
03:49 < Jonimus> BrandonW: so would adding those port outputs help or are they unneeded in most situations?
03:50 <@BrandonW> They're probably unneeded, but I'm going to screw with it and see what happens.
03:50 <@BrandonW> I'm debating actually calling their routine directly.
03:56 <@BrandonW> No difference.
03:59 <@BrandonW> ...
03:59 <@BrandonW> I change one byte...ONE BYTE...and it starts working.
03:59 <@BrandonW> Against a fake Nspire.
03:59 <@BrandonW> It's a byte I can't change when sending to the real Nspire, so this isn't fixing it...
03:59 <@BrandonW> But it makes zero sense.
04:00 <@BrandonW> This is the weirdest fucking thing I've ever seen.
04:00 < Jonimus> hmm maybe a obscure bug in the routine that fails due to that byte?
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04:00 <@BrandonW> I fail to see how.
04:01 < Jonimus> or the controller has some of by one like bug that's doing it
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04:04 <@BrandonW> I sent the exact bytes directly instead of using the generic routine, and it still does it.
04:04 <@BrandonW> This makes no sense whatsoever.
04:06 <@BrandonW> Maybe the controller is doing some sort of checksum of the data and if it's just right, it craps out?
04:06 <@BrandonW> This is the craziest thing ever.
04:07 < Jonimus> It sounds more and more like a bug in the controller, though what the workaround would be is beyond me.
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04:12 <@BrandonW> I wonder if this is why other crap doesn't work quite right.
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04:17 <+doc_who> i just discovered planet-source-code
04:17 <+doc_who> its like manna
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04:24 <@efneTI92> [bsparks] http://www.junemann.nl/maxcoderz/images/smilies/grayscale_drifter2.gif Parrot.
04:24 < Jonimus> hey bsparks what exactly is the point of your greet?
04:25 < bsparks> that is the wrong greet >.<
04:25 < bsparks> god DAMNIT
04:26 < bsparks> can NOTHING GO RIGHT at ALL
04:28 < i_c-Y> silly.
04:35 < DrDnar> BrandonW: Special checksum in the RAM for no reset? Special checksum in the data?
04:35 <@BrandonW> Special checksum in the controller hardware.
04:35 <@BrandonW> Some super low-level thing.
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04:39 < JoeYoung> bwahahaha
04:39 < JoeYoung> My friend at my house is bored
04:39 < JoeYoung> so she got her tablet out and drew me... as a girl XD
04:39 < JoeYoung> gender pwnage, i admit xD
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04:41 <@efneTI92> [Netham46] "Rock is overpowered, paper is fine." -Scissors
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04:42 <@efneTI92> [Zero_G4] http://www.facebook.com/pages/twenty-one-pilots/98049191147 shameless plug of an awesome local band.
04:42 < Zero_G4> GOD DAMNIT
04:42 < Jonimus> lol
04:42 <+doc_who> are you in that band?
04:42 < Zero_G4> doc_who, no
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04:45 < i_c-Y> it would be terrible if Zero_G4 was in that band, doc_who 
04:45 < i_c-Y> you know why?
04:45 < i_c-Y> nobody listens to mac users!
04:45 < bsparks> !k i_c-Y fuck off
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04:46 < i_c-Y> bwahahaha! i r teh funnay
04:46 < Jonimus> nice bsparks I like the use of handle changing there bsparks 
04:46 < bsparks> Jonimus, changed it a few days ago
04:47 < bsparks> Speaking of using a mac. Anyone know of a fast VNC client for windows XP?
04:49 < i_c-Y> realvnc viewer?
04:50 < Genolo> i_c-Y: The external wasn't working because windows fails at weird filenames and reading usbs
04:50 < Genolo> i ran chkdsk and it was bitching about irc logfiles with * in the name
04:50 < Genolo> i.e. the bouncer logs
04:50 < Genolo> and some other files
04:50 < Genolo> the ipod is probably just because apple sucks
04:51 < bsparks> HUH, guess Chrome doesn't like the RealVNC site
04:51 < i_c-Y> chrome sucks.
04:52 < Genolo> i went to sleep as soon as i got home from school and just woke uo
04:52 < Genolo> up*
04:52 < Genolo> i guess technically it is indeed the day after i went to sleep
04:52 < Jonimus> TightVNC is better IMO
04:53 < bsparks> nevermind, I just had to actually read the terms and conditions
04:53 < bsparks> Jonimus, I am just looking for whatever one is faster over a local network
04:53 < i_c-Y> your O sucks, Jonimus .
04:53 < i_c-Y> turn off encryption and all security. 
04:53 < Jonimus> well as least TightVNC is open source.
04:53 < i_c-Y> open source doesn't make something better.
04:54 < Jonimus> I know, but from my experience it often goes hand in hand.
04:55 < bsparks> welp, let's see which is faster
04:56 <@BrandonW> I think I'm onto something.
04:56 <@BrandonW> I found a way to make it work, but somehow some code I'm running is screwing things up.
04:57 <@BrandonW> Despite USB logs saying I'm sending the same fucking thing...
04:57 < Jonimus> woo?
04:57 <@BrandonW> Maybe I'm executing random code somewhere that screws with the USB hardware, who knows.
04:57 < Genolo> BrandonW: have you slept yet
04:58 <@BrandonW> Since Wednesday? Yes.
05:00 < bsparks> maybe I have to tinker with the setting for TightVNC but it doesn't seem 'fast' at all
05:00 < i_c-Y> whats the other machine running, bsparks ?
05:00 < i_c-Y> the box thats running vnc server.
05:01 <@BrandonW> I'm going to cry if what I just did fixes this.
05:01 < bsparks> i_c-Y, OS X
05:01 < Genolo> YES
05:01 < bsparks> it's running ScreenRecycler [ google it ]
05:01 < Genolo> I DIDN'T FAIL MATH THIS SEMESTER
05:01 < Genolo> I GOT A 67
05:02 <@BrandonW> Congratulations! I think.
05:02 < i_c-Y> you always congratulations, you're mediocre.
05:02 <@BrandonW> I always congratulations?
05:02 < i_c-Y> blah. 
05:02 < i_c-Y> Genolo: congratulations, you're mediocre.
05:03 <@BrandonW> Below average, I'd say.
05:03 <@BrandonW> But not a failure!
05:03 < Genolo> indeed
05:03 < Genolo> i've never gotten such a bad grade
05:05 < i_c-Y> bsparks: sucks. maybe try a different vnc server and client pair, try reducing the graphics quality and what not as well
05:05 < bsparks> I can't change server, but I can change the quaality and client
05:06 <@BrandonW> Oh son of a bitch...
05:06 < bsparks> What I am basically doing is turning my netbook into a 3rd monitor
05:06 <@BrandonW> I think I see what it is.
05:06 <@BrandonW> All the logging has been lying to me.
05:06 < bsparks> told you
05:07 <@BrandonW> Yeah, that's it...
05:07 <@BrandonW> I don't know HOW it managed to lie to me, but it did.
05:08 < bsparks> I am really tempted to actually shell out the $30 for the license to screenrecycler 
05:08 < bsparks> BrandonW, what is it doing then?
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05:09 < i_c-Y> pirate.
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05:09 <@BrandonW> I don't understand how that log can be showing me that.
05:09 < bsparks> i_c-Y, how am I a pirate? I am using the trial version right now
05:09 <@BrandonW> It does the logging right before the output to port 0A1h.
05:09 < i_c-Y> liar.
05:10 < bsparks> I have actually paid for a decent amount of software for OS X now that I think about it... hmm
05:10 < bsparks> BrandonW, this is why you need a hardware logger
05:10 <@BrandonW> Believe you me, I will be buying it.
05:13 <@BrandonW> I still don't get it...
05:14 <@BrandonW> That totally fixed it (copying too much into a buffer), but I don't know why it took so long to find.
05:14 < bsparks> welp, bed time
05:14 < bsparks> :o so it works now?
05:15 <@BrandonW> Yeah, I just got a screenshot from it.
05:15 <@BrandonW> I crashed afterward, but...progress...
05:17 < Jonimus> so you were writing to much into the buffer, or not enough?
05:18 <@BrandonW> Too much.
05:19 < Jonimus> ahh, well that makes sence then
05:19 <@BrandonW> Not really, because the USB log says I sent the same thing.
05:19 <@BrandonW> Unless the memory corruption affected which pipe I was writing to, but I checked that.
05:20 < Jonimus> could hte logging code have truncated it?
05:21 <@BrandonW> No.
05:21 <@BrandonW> I wasn't overwriting the memory that stored which pipes to write to.
05:21 <@BrandonW> Nor the logging data.
05:21 < Jonimus> ahh
05:23 <@BrandonW> Wait a minute, the fake Nspire DID get the packet.
05:23 <@BrandonW> So I DID send it.
05:23 <@BrandonW> I just screwed up the ability to receive anything new, apparently, somehow.
05:23 < Jonimus> ahh, thats good then, so that rules out sending as the issue
05:25 <@BrandonW> I did overwrite all kinds of stuff, it copied FROM a low point in memory to a higher.
05:25 <@BrandonW> All the stuff it kept track of was in between.
05:26 <@BrandonW> But why did the other packet work...
05:26 <@BrandonW> Oh well, memory corruption will do weird things.
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05:47 < Barrett> nikky, here?
05:47 < Barrett> anyone have a droid or nexus one or a high-res android phone?
05:48 < Barrett> because this keyboard is awesome.
05:48 < Barrett> look up "swype"... if you've seen the commercials for the new input method for the omnia 2 windows mobile phone... it's that
05:48 < Barrett> and it's amazing
05:48 <@BrandonW> I have a Droid.
05:48 < Barrett> it's not in the market, but you can get a beta from the interwebs
05:53 < Jonimus> Barrett: heh I just saw the peeps in my Winmo Rom chan talk about that
05:53 < Jonimus> I'll have to throw it on my Touch if it supports it
05:53 < Barrett> I do know that most phones won't support it
05:53 < Barrett> but you can try
05:54 < Jonimus> Barrett: hmm is it a res issue or what?
05:54 < Barrett> "The downloadable beta only works with WVGA handsets (hence Droid and Nexus One) so those with HTC Heroes and Droid Erises are a little out of luck for the time being."
05:54 < Jonimus> what about WinMo then?
05:55 < Barrett> no idea about that
05:55 < Barrett> i think this is the official website.. http://www.swypeinc.com/index.html
05:56 < Barrett> officially it's only released for a winmo phone, so maybe you'll get lucky
05:56 < Jonimus> kk I'll check it out
05:56 < Barrett> BrandonW, do you really have a droid?
05:56 <@BrandonW> Yeah.
05:57 < Barrett> cool
05:57 < Barrett> gonna try swype?
05:57 < Barrett> http://www.androidcentral.com/download-beta-version-swype-android
05:57 <@BrandonW> I guess.
05:57 < Barrett> the guy who showed it to me was using a droid
05:58 < Jonimus> Barrett: I don't see a dl link there anywhere
06:01 < Barrett> I've used it to type about 20 sentences, and it's already faster for me than my G1's keyboard was (after like 8 or 9 months of use)
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06:04 < Barrett> what the heck?
06:04 < Barrett> no one else is named Barrett
06:05 <@BrandonW> THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE
06:05 < Barrett> Barrett_F, what's your real name?
06:06 < Jonimus> Barrett: yeah I think his last name is Ford, I think he found about this chan through Tari iirc?
06:12 < i_c-Y> !k Barrett  <@BrandonW> THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE
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06:12 < i_c-Y> :)
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06:12 < i_c-Y> :)
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06:56 < E-J> the irc barretts
06:58 < tr1p1ea> "Now there are two of them!"
07:14 <@BrandonW> NavNet is such a stupid protocol...
07:15 <@BrandonW> It was designed to be non-linear and service-based, but it's not even close.
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07:16 < E-J> sounds like protocol that is designed for one company's purposes and then it has accidentally gone wide
07:17 <@BrandonW> It's all good except for the "get screenshot" request, which is linear. You ask an Nspire for that and it'll do nothing but spit out RLE data until it's done.
07:17 <@BrandonW> No way to tell what it is.
07:17 <@BrandonW> Heaven help you if you're some other service listening to data coming in.
07:18 < E-J> it's ti, so not heaven, hell
07:21 < DrDnar> Anybody an expert on Model M repair?
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07:29 < tr1p1ea> if someone frames you for their own disapperance
07:29 < tr1p1ea> and you get done for murder and falsely imprisoned
07:30 < tr1p1ea> when you get out
07:30 < tr1p1ea> are you allowed to kill them?
07:31 < E-J> by law, no
07:34 < DSP_Lord> sure you can.
07:34 < DSP_Lord> not "allowed" per se, but if you do it, they can't convict you for murdering them again.
07:34 < Barrett> incorrect.
07:34 < Barrett> It's a completely different crime
07:35 < Barrett> so it doesn't fall into the double jeopardy category
07:36 < DrDnar> Maybe you can kidnap them as proof they framed you, and get some legal action going.
07:37 < DrDnar> After all, if the dead person shows up alive again, you're clearly cleared of the murder.
07:38 < tr1p1ea> if you serve 20 years for their murder, you should be able to kill them
07:39 < tr1p1ea> verdict: 'time served'
07:39 < DrDnar> Actually, if the books say they're already dead, why not?
07:39 < DrDnar> All you have to do is hide the body.
07:39 < DrDnar> Go with incineration. 
07:41 <@BrandonW> False imprisonment is not "credit" towards committing crimes.
07:42 < DrDnar> Framing some one is conspiracy, right? It's citizen's arrest.
07:43 < Genolo> what could one gain by framing you for their own death
07:44 < Genolo> unless they just want you in jail
07:44 < tr1p1ea> i say you should be able to choose between compensation and justifying the sentence
07:44 < tr1p1ea> Genolo: skip the country
07:45 < DrDnar> I wish I understood how this buckling spring worked.
07:46 < DrDnar> I think I get it now.
07:46 < DrDnar> I think this spring is slightly misshapen, and that's causing the trouble.
07:47 < DrDnar> I don't know to reshape it.
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07:55 < Barrett> what the heck?  in this project they want us to make multiple requests on the same connection... on both http 1.1 and 1.0
07:55 < Barrett> the only problem? 1.0 doesn't support multiple requests
07:55 <@BrandonW> It's a trick question.
07:55 <@BrandonW> You pass.
07:56 < DrDnar> The writer of this assembly text book does not seem to understand that the Console in the Windows NT line is a Win32 program. He says that programs run from it run in a virtual machine.
07:57 < DrDnar> http://kipirvine.com/asm/chapters4ed/chapt_02.pdf
08:02 < DrDnar> "Any operating system installed in the computer must be able to work with the computer's BIOS."
08:03 < DrDnar> He implies that all hardware I/O is handled by the BIOS.
08:03 <@BrandonW> Or stay the hell out of its way.
08:03 <@BrandonW> Either one.
08:04 < DrDnar> I think such oversimplifications are inexcusable in an assembly text book.
08:04 <@BrandonW> How old is it?
08:04 <@BrandonW> I find it acceptable.
08:04 <@BrandonW> Considering you're in chapter 2.
08:04 < DrDnar> 2006 IIRC, with a new edition coming out next month. You know what that means, right?
08:06 < DrDnar> It came bundled with Visual C++ Express.
08:07 < DrDnar> The spring in this broken key does not bend properly. 
08:07 <@BrandonW> No, I don't know what that means.
08:08 < DrDnar> It means I won't be able to get rid of the book, and the publisher gets to make a major profit as every school moves to the new edition.
08:09 < DrDnar> "new edition" = "more profit"
08:10 < Merthsoft> asdffffffffff
08:10 < DrDnar> jkl;
08:16 <@BrandonW> FFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
08:16 < DrDnar> ?
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08:24 <@BrandonW> That caught on for a while there...
08:24 <@BrandonW> It's like yelling the F word.
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08:26 < Genolo> trole.png
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09:32 < Genolo> sigh
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09:43 <@BrandonW> What?
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10:14 <@efneTI92> [leofox] All we do in hell is play DDR!
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10:27 <@efneTI92> [KermM_] http://www.cemetech.net :: Leading The Way to the Future
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10:34 <@BrandonW> So I've wasted the entire night writing a service- and event-driven implementation of the Nspire/CAS's NavNet link protocol using usb8x on the 84+/SE.
10:35 <@BrandonW> I can request all sorts of device info, and I'm all set up to implement the file management service.
10:35 <@BrandonW> Which means we should be able to trigger the Nspire exploit from it.
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10:44 <@chronomex> good man
10:44 <@chronomex> I've wasted a good four hours trying to shoehorn an additional state into a protocol stack
10:44 <@chronomex> and I don't have much to show for it
10:45 <@BrandonW> I'm sure it'll come eventually.
10:45 <@BrandonW> I banged my head against the wall for two days on this thing.
10:51 < tr1p1ea> "Warning: This film contains graphic violence, coarse language and Jean Claude Van Damme. Viewer discretion is advised."
11:11 < E-J> heh
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11:33 <@BrandonW> Just when I'm about to take a break, it completely stops working.
11:33 <@BrandonW> I hate everything.
11:38 < E-J> go to sleep and start tomorrow with fresh eyes
11:38 <@BrandonW> Nonsense.
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14:14 < E-J> grazy germans, there are 30k people watching biathlon world cup race
14:17 < incubus> that's not many at all
14:17 < E-J> how many people there are in normal biathol race in houston?-)
14:18 < incubus> the bigger deal is, who cares
14:18 < incubus> :X
14:18 < incubus> :D
14:18 < E-J> germans care
14:18 < incubus> Football, American football
14:18 < E-J> it's much for winter sport where shortest race is 7.5 km
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14:19 < incubus> I can only jog about 3.2 km right now without getting sore
14:20 < E-J> and time you spend to that 3.2 km?
14:21 < incubus> idk I never try to run as fast as I can
14:21 < incubus> I just try to stay healthy
14:21 < incubus> I can probably run 1.6km in 8 minutes
14:22 < E-J> ok
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14:22 < incubus> I'd like to get it to 7 minutes
14:22 < E-J> and that 7.5 km isn't jogging, just ski skating, so they can rest at downhills
14:22 < incubus> ah
14:22 < incubus> btw
14:22 < incubus> did you mean biathalon?
14:22 < incubus> biathlon
14:23 < E-J> yeah
14:23 < E-J> i mentioned that there
14:23 < E-J> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biathlon
14:24 < E-J> incubus: i just thought about that timing, how much you could run in cooper test, but apparently it's less than 3km (which is normally thought to be the limit of good shape)
14:26 < E-J> i'm in bad shape, because at military service (2001) i run 2230m on that test and at military refreshner course (2006) even worse
14:26 < incubus> I'm not in good shape yet
14:26 < incubus> I'm in moderate shape
14:26 < incubus> I just started running again
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14:29 <+kirsk> same faggot is squatting my username
14:29 <+kirsk> *some
14:29 < incubus> lol
14:29 < E-J> i don't like just running, i can do team sports which include running but just running is boring
14:29 < incubus> what was it
14:29 < incubus> krisk?
14:29 <+kirsk> yes
14:29 < incubus> E-J, yah itt is boring
14:29 < E-J> if i want to do some sports i mostly drive a bike
14:29 < incubus> E-J, I only do it for health reasons
14:29 < incubus> not for competition
14:29 < incubus> or anything like that
14:30 < E-J> well, i haven't never been so good that i could compete :)
14:30 < incubus> lol
14:32 < E-J> even not in team sports, i played floorball some years as teenager, of course no goals, 1 assist and several 2 min penalties
14:33 < incubus> floorball?
14:33 < incubus> oh I see
14:55 < E-J> now it ended, 15 km + 4 shootings and winner's time was less than 40 minutes
14:55 < incubus> ah
15:10 < tr1p1ea> floorball?
15:10 < E-J> yeah, i think aussies play it too
15:11 < tr1p1ea> ann indoor hockey
15:13 < E-J> http://www.floorball.org.au/
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15:15 < tr1p1ea> not a very popular sport here
15:15 < tr1p1ea> (where i live)
15:16 < E-J> apparently, not many teams in victoria
15:18 < E-J> 4 teams in MFL :) when i played at helsinki area junior league, there were 16 teams in that series
15:19 <+kirsk> shootings?
15:20 < E-J> kirsk: biathlon
15:21 <+kirsk> ah
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15:36 < rzl> hello there :)
15:36 < rzl> anyone here who owns a Ti86 ?
15:37 < rzl> a question about tables: is it possible to make write function, say y2, which holds the sum of current y1 and previous y1 ?
15:39 < leofox> y2 = y1(x)+y1(x-1) ?
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15:45 < E-J> rzl: i think not, at least not without some programming
15:45 < rzl> oh... let me try what leofox told me.
15:46 < E-J> with some for loop you could do it
15:46 < bsparks> Couldn't you always store Y1 to Y3, overwrite Y1, and then store Y3 and Y1 to Y2?
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15:48 <+doc_who> morning
15:48 < E-J> i haave 86, but i'm going to housewarming party and i'm not going to make a code on this short bus trip
15:48 < rzl> uhm, what leofox said seem to work.
15:48 < E-J> ah
15:48 < bsparks> oh, cool
15:48 < bsparks> leofox++
15:48 < E-J> well then
15:48 < rzl> uh, well, some how...
15:49 < rzl> if i set y1=x
15:49 < rzl> and then set y2=y1(x)+y1(x-1)
15:49 < rzl> at y2(0) i get -1
15:49 < rzl> which is right
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15:49 < rzl> but... uhm... it's not what i'd alway want.
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15:50 < leofox> what is it that you want exactly?
15:51 < rzl> leofox: i need to do probaibilisic calculus, Bernoulli's distribution, so x can not be negative.
15:51 < leofox> abs(x)?
15:51 < leofox> or are you trying to have the cumulative sum of y1?
15:52 < rzl> yes, cumulative sum
15:52 < leofox> you can't easily do that
15:52 < leofox> it's possible with lists
15:52 < leofox> L2 = cumsum(L1)
15:52 < rzl> oh, ok
15:53 < rzl> uhm...
15:53 < leofox> for functions you're going to need the integral
15:53 < rzl> so i should make a list L1 composed by all the probabilities i've calculated and then make a cumsum() of l1
15:53 < rzl> *L1
15:53 < rzl> uhm... ok, thanks :)
15:54 < leofox> yeah
15:54 < leofox> that would do
15:54 < rzl> ook... time for a cup of tea now :)
15:54 < rzl> thanks leofox :)
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16:33 <+doc_who> emacs has irc?
16:35 < E-J> of course
16:40 <@Andy_J> emacs has everything
16:40 <@Andy_J> even a text editor
16:40  * Andy_J rimshot
16:40 <+doc_who> lol
16:41 <+doc_who> i (mis)use vim
16:41 <+doc_who> actually nano now bc i havent used linux in a while and just started again
16:41  * doc_who hides
16:41 <@Andy_J> I don't much care for either vim or emacs
16:41 <@Andy_J> nano++
16:42 <@Andy_J> *neither *nor
16:42 < leofox> notepad :D
16:42 <+doc_who> i use notepad++ on windows
16:42 <@Andy_J> leofox: the more appropriate analog would be edit :p
16:42 <@Andy_J> which, unfortunately, didn't make the port to 64-bit versions of windows
16:43 <@Andy_J> anyway
16:43  * Andy_J &
16:43 <+doc_who> oh wow i didnt know that existed Andy_J 
16:43 <@Andy_J> doc_who: edit == qbasic - basic
16:44 <@Andy_J> back on the win9xs it was actually just a wrapper around qbasic /editor or somesuch
16:44 <+doc_who> is that still in win7 (32bit)?
16:44 <@Andy_J> it was axed in xp sp2
16:46 <@Andy_J> qbasic /edit
16:46 <@Andy_J> edit is apparently still around on 32-bit win7
16:47 <@Andy_J> because apparently it's still a DOS program O_o
16:48 <@Andy_J> oh wow
16:48 <@Andy_J> it's still a .com
16:50 <@Andy_J> even though it has an mz header... oh right, because it always used to be a .com so it had to retain that name for compatibility
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17:27 < i_c-Y> wYou are banned from this server- Temporary K-line 4320 min. - [G][Kyouka-sama] Spam is bad mmkay? Visit http://kline.rizon.net if you believe this ban is an error. (Akill ID: CPFSRBO392) (2010/1/16 12.23)
17:27 < i_c-Y> silly rizon.
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17:34 <+rcfreak0> lol i_c-Y someone went on a power trip
17:34 <+rcfreak0> you should be able to get back on now
17:41 < Spengo> i_c-Y, rizon is broken for me
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17:53 < Genolo> oh shit
17:53 < Genolo> i remembered my nickserv password on freenode
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17:58 <+kirsk> tief op kutmirc
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17:59 < Genolo> dammit xorg
17:59 <+doc_who> Genolo, ???
18:00 < Genolo> something fucked up when i installed it
18:00 < Genolo> when i try to startx i get -bash: /usr/bin/startx: cannot execute binary file
18:00 <+doc_who> i meant the freenode password
18:01 < Genolo> er
18:01 < Genolo> lol
18:01 < Genolo> i forgot it for a while
18:01 <+doc_who> i need to know that you remembered that why?
18:01 < Genolo> because you love me
18:01 <+doc_who> o....k....
18:02 < Genolo> i can't even reinstall it
18:02 < Genolo> ;_;
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18:16 <+kirsk> bored
18:21 <+jr19> lift weights
18:21 <+jr19> drink proteinz
18:21 <+kirsk> only fills an hour tops
18:22 <+jr19> it's an hour though
18:22 <+jr19> then you have to shower, and maybe in the meantime if you contact some people beforehand, they will come up with something to do
18:23 <@Andy_J> Genolo: what does file say about /usr/bin/startx ?
18:25 <+jr19> hmm the guy that lives below me moved out
18:25 < incubus> jr19, good or bad
18:25 <+jr19> i hope an attractive woman moves in
18:25 < incubus> lol
18:25 <+kirsk> someone is staying in amsterdam but its raining so i dont feel like going there
18:25 < Genolo> Andy_J: hmm?
18:25 <+jr19> lately it hasn't really mattered, but he used to play video games really fucking loud sometimes
18:25 <+kirsk> 2 others are celebrating some douche's birthday in a cafe
18:26 <+jr19> lol some douche
18:26 <+jr19> i don't really have much going on tonight either kirsk 
18:27 <+jr19> i can probably find something
18:27 <+jr19> if i want to hang out with people i don't necessarily care to hang out with all that much
18:27 <+kirsk> i just send a message to someone who might be up for something idk
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18:28 <+jr19> i have a long time to figure out what i'm doing still
18:28 <+kirsk> hmm the reaction is 'idk'
18:32 <+jr19> ah
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18:54 <+kirsk> i bet if i have my appartment all these people are suddenly going to come over every weekend
18:54 <+jr19> what makes you say that
18:55 < Genolo> -Global- [Kyouka-sama] Okay guys, seeing you all like official statements... I had something commonly known as a brainfart and accidentally akilled *@*@IP, instead of *@IP. That got interpreted as *@* however, which ended up in everyone getting banned. Apologies for any inconvenience and thanks for flying Rizon.
18:55 < Genolo> lolwut
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18:57 < Barrett> this sucks
18:57 < Barrett> I have 3 projects due today, and my internet is acting up
18:57 <+rcfreak0> Genolo, lol yeah i saw that
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19:01 <+kirsk> jr19: because then they can benefit from it
19:01 <+kirsk> and people are like that
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19:05 <+jr19> true
19:06 <+jr19> i dont really have that many friends
19:06 <+kirsk> same, just enough
19:06 <+jr19> i only really hang out with one person on a somewhat consistent basis
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19:07 <+jr19> i'll run into people i'm friendly with when i go out some nights, but i dont know that i really consider them friends
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19:10 < i_c-Y> Spengo: -Global- [Kyouka-sama] Okay guys, seeing you all like official statements... I had something commonly known as a brainfart and accidentally akilled *@*@IP, instead of *@IP. That got interpreted as *@* however, which ended up in everyone getting banned. Apologies for any inconvenience and thanks for flying Rizon.
19:11 < Genolo> didn't i just paste that
19:14 <+jr19> http://content.yieldmanager.edgesuite.net/atoms/ca/84/d8/ad/ca84d8ad4bea93ab1ec825a430098e49.gif
19:14 <+jr19> microsoft is dying.
19:14 <+kirsk> lol
19:17 <+jr19> heating up some roast beef with gravy with mashed potatoes and corn omnomnomnomnom
19:18 < Spengo> i_c-Y, rizon is still giving me unknown host maybe you misspelled it
19:18 < i_c-Y> rizon is going to hell
19:19 < i_c-Y> its so bad now because they're like 12 year olds
19:19 < i_c-Y> running it
19:19 < Spengo> well the people running it are weeaboos
19:20 < Spengo> basement dwelling weeaboos
19:20 < i_c-Y> with no skills.
19:20 < Spengo> or real jobs
19:22 < _Auron_> mm
19:22 < _Auron_> I wonder if the edge will sell well
19:26 < i_c-Y> anyhow, Spengo , i got back on, i dunno whats wrong with yours.
19:29 < Genolo> i_c-Y: watching that much anime and reading that much manga takes skill
19:29 < Spengo> no it doesn't
19:29 < leofox> it takes a lot of free time
19:29 < Spengo> it takes laziness
19:30 < i_c-Y> it takes the ability to get a 67 in algebra, right?
19:30 < Genolo> yes
19:30 < Genolo> it does
19:30 < Genolo> and it's algebra 2
19:30 < Genolo> LEVEL 3
19:30 < Genolo> for your information
19:30 < leofox> 67?
19:30 < leofox> is that good?
19:30 < Genolo> sure it is
19:30 < Genolo> a couple points under average
19:30 < Genolo> and i didn't fail
19:30 < leofox> how low is failing?
19:31 < leofox> 54?
19:31 <+kirsk> less than average is never good unless youre an underachiever
19:31 < Genolo> i think 59
19:31 < leofox> hmm ok
19:31 < Genolo> well i was sick with the swine for 2 weeks
19:31 < Genolo> like i said
19:31 < Genolo> and didn't make anything up
19:31 < Genolo> and took the tests without learning it
19:32 < Genolo> i plan on not doing so bad the rest of the year
19:32 < Genolo> specially cos i need a >b for programming classes
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19:37 <@efneTI92> [Tyler2] I no longer speak fluent dialup.
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19:37 < _Auron_> so the stuff in haiti is pretty fucked up eh?
19:39 < i_c-Y> yeah
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19:53 < _Auron_> dude the edge looks sexy
19:54 < _Auron_> http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10415424-56.html?tag=mncol;title
19:56 < Spengo> meh
19:56 < Spengo> I'll wait until thoes LCD combo screens come out
19:57 < Spengo> the ones that can switch to reflective mode
19:57 < Spengo> remember those OLPC screens? These are made by the same people, but greatly improved
19:57 < _Auron_> Spengo: well I might get one for free because I'm selling Stroids to be put on the device on launch, maybe
19:57 < Spengo> oh that's cool
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19:58 < _Auron_> yeah, I didn't know about until I talked with their SQA manager, and he's forwarding me to the VP of Operations
19:58 < _Auron_> will get an email within the week
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20:14 <@Andy_J> a half hour ping time? O_o
20:16 <+rcfreak0> oO
20:17 < Genolo> that just happened on rizon too
20:17 < _Auron_> rofl
20:18 < _Auron_> china is fucking with the internet ;P
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20:18 < Randomist> They're always doing that.
20:21 <@Andy_J> 7205 can't possibly be real
20:21 <@Andy_J> nobody would run a 2 hour ping timer
20:21 < Genolo> rizon would
20:21 <@Andy_J> ... maybe
20:21 <@Andy_J> they are *that* stupid
20:21 <+ports> everyone should thank jr19
20:22 <+ports> He's facebook stalking hot indian girls for me to help me find a new mate.
20:22 <+ports> Why? Because if I have another girl to annoy, I won't be here bugging you all.
20:22 < _Auron_> I thought you got married
20:22 <+ports> _Auron_, married to who
20:23 < _Auron_> maybe I'm thinking of someone else
20:23 <+ports> _Auron_, I think you are
20:23 < Genolo> add me on facebook
20:23 <+ports> Genolo, why?
20:23 < Genolo> because you love me
20:23 <+ports> You're a bit young for me.
20:23 < Randomist> 321i687
20:23 <+ports> I have a 21+ rule
20:24 < _Auron_> lol
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20:24 < Genolo> for all you know i'm a 54 year old pedophile 
20:24 <+ports> _Auron_, hes stakling her for me.. http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2084/99/11/172900209/n172900209_30419263_8115.jpg
20:26 < _Auron_> in a way you could say I'm stalking him: http://hphotos-snc1.fbcdn.net/hs193.snc1/6493_1132564527296_1622781589_340120_2064339_n.jpg
20:26 <+ports> why
20:26 <+ports> You can do better... he cant even keep his tie straight
20:27 < _Auron_> rofl
20:27 < _Auron_> he's a manager at work
20:27 <+ports> _Auron_, http://hphotos-snc1.fbcdn.net/hs110.snc1/4928_577511131278_37705721_34080479_4918272_n.jpg
20:27 < _Auron_> he's a great guy
20:27 < _Auron_> who is that?
20:27 <+ports> notice the straight, tightly tied knot.  dropping straight down.
20:27 <+ports> me!
20:28 < _Auron_> um k
20:28 <+ports> what
20:28 < _Auron_> you realize his jacket is just too small or something and he's stretching out his arms
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20:28 <+ports> the left shoulder
20:28 < _Auron_> yeah it's being pulled to his left
20:28 <+ports> that was tailored to be a tighter fit
20:29 <+ports> _Auron_, that's me in the photo...
20:29 < _Auron_> I know
20:29 <+ports> "his"
20:29 <+ports> http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v257/77/6/37705721/n37705721_32644826_2042.jpg
20:30 < _Auron_> "his" as in http://hphotos-snc1.fbcdn.net/hs193.snc1/6493_1132564527296_1622781589_340120_2064339_n.jpg
20:30 <+ports> oh
20:30 <+ports> you meant him
20:30 <+ports> that guy
20:30 <+ports> sorry
20:30 < _Auron_> god.
20:30 <+ports> i thought you meant my jacket
20:30 < _Auron_> rofl
20:30 < _Auron_> YOU
20:30 < _Auron_> ARE SO SELF CENTERED
20:30 < _Auron_> jk :)
20:30 <+ports> _Auron_, it's true
20:30 <+ports> I'm talking to a therapist about it
20:31 < _Auron_> interesting
20:31 <+ports> A good friend of mine has decided to fix me..  she's a therapist for the department of corrections.
20:31 <+ports> anyways.. whos the girl in the pink & black
20:33 < Genolo> i finally bothered to install audio drivers on this desktop
20:34 <+ports> Genolo, why did you wait
20:34 < Genolo> had no need for sound
20:34 <+ports> oh
20:34 <+ports> i couldnt get by without sound on my computer.. i watch a lotof stuff online
20:36 <+ports> wtf
20:36 <+ports> should i buy this?
20:36 <+ports> http://www.adorama.com/KCMC1600W.html?sid=126367416773591
20:52 <+ports> _Auron_, meh.. this girl is too lazy/stupid to get a drivers license.. but she went through the trouble to get a fake ID so she could drink at bars
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20:58 < _Auron_> lol
20:58 < _Auron_> ?
20:59 < _Auron_> that's odd
20:59 <+ports> yes
20:59 < _Auron_> anyways gotta get ready for work
20:59 <+ports> the more i talk to the girl... the less impressed i am with her
20:59 < _Auron_> shave and shower 'n shit
20:59 < _Auron_> not actually shitting
20:59 < _Auron_> just stuff
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21:08 < Genolo> does microsoft provide windows 7 recovery disk things
21:08 <+ports> Genolo, dude what the hell
21:08 <+ports> havent you fixed that yet?
21:09 < Genolo> i haven't even
21:09 < Genolo> bothered to try
21:09 < Genolo> i'm still installing linux
21:09 < Genolo> X wasn't installing right
21:09 < Genolo> it was a mess
21:09 <+ports> http://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/720866-how-can-i-restore-the-windows-7-bootloader/
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21:10 < Genolo> interesting page
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21:13 < i_c-Y> 16:08 < Genolo> does microsoft provide windows 7 recovery disk things < that's the manufacturer's responsibility not microsoft's.
21:14 < i_c-Y> its part of the OEM's agreement with microsoft
21:14 < Genolo> fffffuuuu
21:14 < Genolo> i'm going to have to pirate windows 7 to fix it
21:14 < i_c-Y> you shouldnt have fucked it up - just borrow a win 7 disc from a friend if you have any friends.
21:15 < i_c-Y> do you have any friends with win 7?
21:15 < E-J> house warming party ended when 2 guys dressed in blue came to door
21:15 < i_c-Y> they can go to start -> all programs -> maintainence -> create a system repair disc
21:15 < i_c-Y> to make one
21:15 < i_c-Y> wait, did we already establish you have no friends yet? 
21:17 <+ports> lol
21:18 <+ports> ok
21:18 <+ports> Genolo, do you have a key for Win7?
21:19 < Genolo> dunno
21:19 < Genolo> should be somewhere on my laptop or something
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21:19 <+ports> http://www.mydigitallife.info/2009/11/10/windows-7-iso-x86-and-x64-official-direct-download-links-ultimate-professional-and-home-premium/
21:20 < E-J> Genolo: have you checked the bottom of the laptop
21:21 < Genolo> yeah it's there
21:21 <+ports> then download the iso
21:24 < Genolo> either xorg or kde is fucked up 
21:24 < Genolo> when i log in in kdm the screen flickers and goes back to kdm
21:24 < Genolo> and the screen starts wobbling
21:25 < E-J> i would say xorg
21:26 < Genolo> yeah
21:26 < Genolo> xorg was really fucked when i first installed it
21:26 < Genolo> dunno why
21:27 < Genolo> i should probably check xorg's log thing
21:35 <+doc_who> in arch Genolo ?
21:35 < Genolo> yeah
21:35 <+doc_who> some of the packages tend to be buggy
21:35 <+doc_who> you could file a report
21:36 < Genolo> are you saying i can't fix it?
21:37 <+doc_who> you should try
21:37 < Genolo> i mean first xorg wouldn't start at all
21:37 < Genolo> i fixed that
21:38 < Genolo> it boots and displays kdm fine
21:38 < Genolo> ...until i enter my name/pass
21:38 < Genolo> then it flickers and the screen starts being wavy
21:39 <+doc_who> you do know how to configure xorg right? - http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/X
21:40 < Genolo> since i have nvidia drivers should i do nvidia-xconfig
21:42 <+doc_who> yeah you could
21:43 <+doc_who> how did you configure xorg before?
21:43 <+doc_who> maybe you entered something wrong into it
21:44 < Genolo> it's very possible
21:44 < Genolo> i was just trying to get the damn thing to start
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22:00 <@efneTI92> [geno_] Only my railgun can shoot letting my soul out~
22:00 < geno_> i don't need no gui
22:02 <+rcfreak0|> lol
22:03 < geno_> run irssi from a vc everything else is bloat
22:03  * geno_ runs
22:03 <+kirsk> i like bloat
22:03 < geno_> i hate to admit it but so do i ;_;
22:04 < geno_> i've never used irssi very much
22:04 < geno_> i think i'm going to start using irssi
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22:05 < Geno\_> how does one use irssi
22:05 < Geno\_> wait i'll just man irssi
22:06 <+kirsk> type stuff
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22:06 < Geno\_> i'm just usually in so many channels
22:06 < Geno\_> i don't know how well i'd fair in irssi
22:06 < Geno\_> like 70+
22:07 < Geno\_> i remember the days when i was in two channels altogether
22:07 < Geno\_> and this was one of them
22:07 <+doc_who> xconfigure didnt work?
22:07 < Geno\_> er
22:07 < Geno\_> i didn't do it yet
22:08 < Geno\_> i tried the nvidia config though
22:08 < Geno\_> that didn't change anything
22:08 < Geno\_> i mean i think xorg is fine
22:08 < Geno\_> i changed startkde to xterm
22:08 < Geno\_> and it opened that just fine
22:08 < Geno\_> oh wait why arent i connected to my bouncer
22:09 < Geno\_> whatever
22:09 <+kirsk> i actually liked work this week, it is strange
22:10 < Geno\_> i'm going to try to cut back on number of channels
22:11 < Geno\_> so i can use irssi without having 70 channels
22:11 < Geno\_> er
22:11 < Geno\_> how do you kill a running xorg again
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22:12 < calcdude> ctrl-alt-backspace
22:12 <@Andy_J> gracefully exit the last program in the xinitrc
22:12 <@Andy_J> zapping it isn't exactly the right way to do it
22:12 < Randomist> Geno\_:  [Alt]-[SysRq]-[R], [Ctl]-[Alt]-[F1].
22:13 <@Andy_J> not everybody has the magic sysreq key enabled
22:13 < Geno\_> ctl alt f1 would just go to another vn
22:13 < Randomist> Or, there is a [Alt]-[SysRq] to stop X, but I forget what it was.
22:13 <@Andy_J> "vn"?
22:13 < Randomist> You mean "VT."
22:13 < Geno\_> er yeah
22:13 <@Andy_J> ^
22:13 < Randomist> Or, "VC," rather.
22:14 <@Andy_J> VT is more correct I think
22:14 < Geno\_> i might just reboot into runlevel 3
22:14 < Geno\_> i can't configure X while it's running afaik
22:14 <@Andy_J> you can configure it, it just won't pick up on the changes
22:15 < Geno\_> says it can't because it's running
22:15 < Geno\_> brb
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22:20 < Genolo> wut
22:20 < Genolo> i did Xorg -configure and ran it with the new config file
22:20 < Genolo> it showed the nvidia logo and now just a blank screen
22:21 <+kirsk> http://images.4chan.org/fit/src/1263679671082.jpg   : )
22:22 < calcdude> ok...
22:23 < Genolo> oh ffffffff
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22:23 < Genolo> am i running x as root
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22:23 < Genolo> i keep forgetting to not do that
22:30 < Exploiter> is http://www.420chan.org down for anyone else?
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22:31 <@efneTI92> [geno_] Only my railgun can shoot letting my soul out~
22:31 < geno_> this makes no sense
22:31 < geno_> i'm in kde right now
22:31 < geno_> i just can't get here
22:31 < geno_> from kdm
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22:31 < geno_> explanation, anyone?
22:31 < Randomist> Exploiter:  Nope.
22:32 < Exploiter> Randomist, it works for you?
22:32  * Randomist nods.
22:32 < Exploiter> wtf... it won't work on my cellphone network either
22:32 < Exploiter> i'm confused
22:34  * calcdude says it does for him, too.
22:35 < Exploiter> why the hell would it be failing to connect to the server on the AT&T network on my iphone and my wireless at home through comcast? :S
22:35 < Exploiter> yet it works just dandy for you guys
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22:36 < geno_> does anyone know wtf is going on
22:36 < geno_> would i be an issue with kdm
22:36 < Exploiter> i could say the same thing...
22:37 < geno_> it*
22:37 < geno_> because like
22:37 < geno_> i'm in kde right now
22:37 < geno_> just 
22:37 < geno_> i didn't get in from kdm
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22:47 < E-J> jr19: if you thought that you live in middle of nowhere, read this http://www.hs.fi/english/article/What+to+do+about+Lapland/1135252089007
22:48 <+kirsk> "While the rest of Finland was enjoying the recent economic boom" wat
22:49 < E-J> was
22:50 < E-J> preceding recession what they talk about in article was in 1990s
22:50 <+kirsk> ah ok
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22:51 <@efneTI92> [geno_] Only my railgun can shoot letting my soul out~
22:51 < geno_> hmm
22:52 < geno_> i fixed the resolution but that has nother to do with the important issue
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23:09 <+doc_who> 420chan works for me and im on comcast
23:09 <+doc_who> but he's gone now
23:10 <+doc_who> i dont like it with the new font-size/style
23:10 <+doc_who> and i dont know enough greasemonkey to change it
23:12 <+jr19> i dont ever want to go to lappland
23:13 <+jr19> kirsk: didn't find anything to do i take it?
23:14 < Randomist> doc_who:  Stylish.
23:14 < Randomist> As in, the Firefox add-on.
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23:17 < E-J> jr19: if you go to germany, don't say to local people next phrase: "Ich rauche Sigaretten, rauchen Sie Rovaniemi?"
23:18 < E-J> or is it just rauch
23:20 <+jr19> what's that mean
23:21 < Spengo> http://www.facebook.com/XXRockgodessXX?ref=nf
23:21 < Spengo> hahaha
23:21 <+jr19> what about her
23:21 < Spengo> woodcock
23:22 < i_c-Y> luckily i don't use facebook
23:22 < i_c-Y> :)
23:22 < Spengo> I don't either, someone on another channel linked it
23:22 < i_c-Y> good man.
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23:25 < E-J> jr19: "i smoke cigarette, do you smoke rovaniemi?" rovaniemi is town in lappland that germans burn in lapland war at 1944 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Rovaniemi)
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23:30 < bsparks> I wonder if I give my dad $11 he'll let me use the business debit card to buy this album off of iTunes
23:30 < E-J> you don't have own debit card?
23:30 < bsparks> Nope
23:31 < i_c-Y> do you have a bank account?
23:31 < bsparks> Nope
23:31 < i_c-Y> seriously?
23:31 < bsparks> Well, yes
23:31 < bsparks> But I never use it
23:32 < i_c-Y> then just get a debit card from it nad deposit moneh into it
23:32 < bsparks> Nat City is being a bitch with it
23:32 < bsparks> and I am caught in limbo
23:33 < bsparks> because PNC bought them, so my bank account is unavailable to get new cards until the renew point in 2011
23:34 < E-J> i assume you live still with parents?
23:34 < bsparks> One and a half, yeah. I'm starting to not count my mother anymore
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23:44 < bsparks> http://gizmodo.com/5449892/the-motorola-shadow-a-droid-for-the-light-side
23:46 < _Digital> headlights for car, new speakers
23:46 < _Digital> which should I get
23:46 < _Digital> hmmmm
23:47 < i_c-Y> what kind of car do you drive?
23:47 < _Digital> '97 VW Passat
23:48 < _Digital> lights work fine, but I need to refinish the plastic lens and the adjustments for teh right are broke
23:48 <+ports> bsparks, theyll send you new cards if the card is lost, correct?
23:48 < i_c-Y> get a less girly car. 
23:48 < bsparks> ports, no, no they won't not until 2011
23:48 < _Digital> it's a diesel
23:48 < i_c-Y> and bsparks , are you sure? there might be a little fee, but still...
23:48 <+ports> i agree with i_c-Y
23:49 < bsparks> Apparently because my account isn't on PNC yet they can't do shit
23:49 < bsparks> because Nat City no longer can make cards, etc
23:49 <+ports> bsparks, I'm a Natl City customer too.
23:50 < bsparks> ports, congrats
23:50 < _Digital> i_c-Y, ports, find me something that gets 55mpg and is as much fun to drive as this turbo diesel is and then I might agree with you
23:50 <+ports> _Digital, i didnt tell you to get a new car
23:50 < E-J> i_c-Y: i don't think passat is girly car, i think it's very good car, if you are a) a contruction worker b) professional kidnapper c) mass murderer
23:51 <+ports> _Digital, i was agreeing with icy about paying a fee for a new bank card
23:51 < _Digital> E-J, I can be just that creepy if I want to me
23:51 < _Digital> 10-4 ports
23:51 < E-J> _Digital: want to be or want to me?
23:51 < _Digital> be
23:51 <+ports> To apply for a National City CheckCard, please provide the following information
23:51 <+ports> (Note: If your card is lost or stolen, call 1-888-622-8431 right away. We'll stop the use of your card and order a new one for you):
23:52 < bsparks> ports, I _just_ talked to them a week ago
23:52 < bsparks> Because the process of switching my account to a PNC account was never completed, I can't get a new card until it does
23:52 < bsparks> They'd be issuing me a new card regardless when the switch is complete
23:53 <+ports> bsparks, just lose your account and open a new one
23:53 < bsparks> ports, no. Fuck you. Stop talking to me.
23:53 <+ports> close. even
23:54 <+ports> That was unnecessary.
23:54 < i_c-Y> i waws just kidding, _Digital . anyhow, doesnt the suzuki hayabusa get like 55 mpg?
23:54 <+ports> _Digital, wouldnt it be better to buy 2 new aftermarket lenses for the headlights than to attempt to refinish clear plastic?
23:55 < _Digital> ports, since I cannot adjust one side, I'd like to get new lights altogether. Updates styling a bit too
23:55 < i_c-Y> some other bike may work as well.
23:55 <+ports> _Digital, cool. are you going to convert to HID/xenons?
23:55 < _Digital> possibly. That'll double the cost though
23:56 < _Digital> maybe along down the road
23:56 <+ports> _Digital, if you're going to spend the money.. id do it now
23:56 <+ports> _Digital, instead of replacing them with normal halogens now, then spending the full money again later
23:56 < _Digital> I'd have to retrofit either of the 2 pair of headlights I choose between since they aren't HID to begin with
23:57 <+ports> yep
23:57 < _Digital> car is a bit too old to have aftermarket HIDs so a retrofit is about my only option
23:57 < _Digital> cost is the same now or then, whenever I do it
23:57 <+ports> _Digital, i tried to convert my old bmw to HIDs.. but it was a POS kit i bought.. they pull a lot more power than normal halogens
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23:58 < _Digital> yeah, except I won't do a cheap kit like that though
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23:59 <+ports> heh
23:59 < _Digital> i_c-Y, that bike gets 38mpg
23:59 <+ports> _Digital, at the time i thought Bimmian was a more reputable dealer
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