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00:00 < sir_lewk> ports: I don't like that kids hair either
00:00 <+ports> the hawk alone would be fine
00:00 <+ports> but the side rails..meh
00:00 < sir_lewk> I hope you punched him in the head
00:00 < sir_lewk> that is like begging for a head-punching
00:00 <+ports> sir_lewk, punched who in the head?
00:01 <+ports> i have no clue who the fuck that kid is
00:01 < KermM> i_c-Y, I put bucket on the rack
00:01 <+ports> i used to work with the normal one sitting next to the moron
00:01 < sir_lewk> oh, ok
00:01 <+ports> that kid was funny
00:01 <+ports> he was an intern in the office..
00:02 <+ports> we didnt really need him.. but his parents knew the director..
00:02 < sir_lewk> my job doesn't really need me
00:02 <+ports> so we used to just give him some peices of would and have him drill holes in shit for displys
00:02 <+ports> would/wood
00:05 < sir_lewk> my job today was "watch this tv until it turns off"
00:05 <+ports> why
00:05 <+ports> sir_lewk, and how much money do you make?
00:06 < sir_lewk> 20/hr
00:06 < sir_lewk> well
00:06 < sir_lewk> there is apparently this bug right now where if the channel is changed too much for too long, the settop box resets
00:06 < sir_lewk> I was to verify this
00:07 < sir_lewk> it's also what I'm doing tomorrow
00:07 < sir_lewk> maybe on friday too :)
00:08 < sir_lewk> bbl, making pizza
00:09 <+ports> lol
00:09 <+ports> i wonder if i could hire some interns
00:09 <+ports> i need a few to just watch shit for me
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00:19 < sir_lewk> woot, pizza assembled
00:20 < Tari> PIZZABOTS, ASSEMBLE!
00:21 <+jr19> you've been talking about this pizza for like 2 hours now
00:21 <+jr19> i was at work last time i saw you talking about it and i was off nearly 2 hours ago
00:21 <+jr19> i expect there to be pics
00:21 <+jr19> and i expect it to be glorious
00:24 <+ports> lol
00:25  * sir_lewk checks the oven again...
00:25 <+ports> jr19, my new chair at the office is pretty cool
00:25 <+ports> im tempted to buy myself one for home
00:25 <@BrandonW> I only like high-back microfiber.
00:26 <+ports> BrandonW, i think was was microfiber..
00:26 <+ports> is that what they call the mesh like back?
00:26 <+ports> http://www.officemax.com/catalog/sku.jsp?productId=prod2480014&freeText=Fuego&csRedirectSearchString=Fuego&csRedirectSearchResultCount=1&csSearchTag=true&_requestid=899717
00:26 <@BrandonW> I despise chairs like that.
00:27 <@BrandonW> I want thick padding supporting me.
00:27 <@BrandonW> I want this thing like a recliner on wheels.
00:27 <+ports> the bottom is padded.. not mesh
00:28 <+ports> the mesh back is good because you dont get sweaty.. and when you lean back.. it supports you all over
00:28 <@BrandonW> http://www.officemax.com/office-furniture/chairs/product-prod2780325?history=x5kiew3j|categoryId~10001^categoryName~office-furniture^parentCategoryID~category_root^prodPage~25^region~1@pe4mg2dv|prodPage~15^refine~1^region~1^categoryName~chairs^categoryId~25^parentCategoryID~cat_10001@g8axeif7|refineName~Material^prodPage~15^refine~1^sub_attr_name~1^region~1^refineValue~Microfiber&sp=true
00:28 <@BrandonW> That's more or less what I'm sitting in right now.
00:28 <@BrandonW> Office Max discontinued mine a year or two ago.
00:28 <+ports> BW that chair has no adjustment.  you have to form yourself into it.
00:29 <@BrandonW> I guess I'm already formed for it.
00:29 <@BrandonW> I couldn't care less if it's comfortable for anyone else.
00:29 <+ports> the one I'm in now is just one of those cheap $70 office chairs..  id like to have something more functional
00:29 <+ports> but i like how i can lean back on this... throw my leg over the arm rest.. and put my feet on my desk
00:31 <@BrandonW> I don't like chairs that breathe.
00:31 <@BrandonW> Or take airflow into account.
00:31 <+ports> why
00:31 <@BrandonW> Why not? I don't get hot sitting down in front of the computer.
00:31 <+ports> http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/518380/Raynor-Ergohuman-High-Back-Mesh-Chair/?cm_cat=2000000007  - thats the one i wanted
00:32 <+ports> i like the 2 part back on that.. good lumbar support
00:32 <@BrandonW> That thing looks like it wants to abuse me.
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00:32 <@BrandonW> If it even looks like it can be taken apart, I don't want it.
00:32 <+ports> Maybe it does.
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00:41 < i_c-Y> <@BrandonW> Why not? I don't get hot sitting down in front of the computer.
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00:41 < i_c-Y> you do infront of calcultors thoguh 
00:41 <@BrandonW> Is that supposed to be some kind of dirty joke?
00:42 <+ports> i_c-Y, you wouldn't do that, would you?
00:42 <@BrandonW> I figured he'd come up with something better if so.
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00:47 < sir_lewk> I believe I have perfected this art
00:50 <+ports> of what
00:50 <+ports> making a frozen pizza?
00:52 -!- Barrett_ [~Barrett@75-165-234-125.slkc.qwest.net] has joined #tcpa
00:52 < Barrett_> So, this guy that I have a weird connection to through web development clients recently asked for some web space
00:52 < Barrett_> here's what he put on it: http://sokolovphotography.com/
00:53 < Barrett_> the first picture is the least weird
00:53 < Barrett_> (kind of nsfw... not porn or anything, but a girl on a beach)
00:53 <+ports> haha
00:53 < sir_lewk> this is not a frozen pizza! :O
00:53 <+ports> shes meh
00:53 <+rcfreak0> wtf is with the fish?
00:53 <+ports> too skinny
00:54 < Barrett_> ports: the fish?
00:54 <+ports> she has no boobs and you can see the ribs
00:54 < Barrett_> or the girl
00:54 <+ports> wtf is up with that fish too
00:54 < Barrett_> I think he's russian
00:54 < Barrett_> so that might explain this to some extent
00:54 < sir_lewk> eww flash
00:54 <+ports> lol
00:54 <+rcfreak0> I was wondering why shes laying next to a dead fish.. weird
00:54 <+rcfreak0> lol sir_lewk 
00:54 < sir_lewk> flash for some pictures? weak
00:55 <@BrandonW> It's symbolic.
00:55 < Barrett_> I kind of clicked around, and the biggest reason I don't like flash in this case is because of his e-mail link
00:55 < Barrett_> I can't easily e-mail him in gmail
00:55 < Barrett_> BrandonW, do explain the symbolism
00:56 < sir_lewk> that fish is hot.  who is she?
00:56 <@BrandonW> I can't, I just know it's symbolic...of something.
00:56 < sir_lewk> yeah, these are clearly pictures with artistic meaning
00:57 <@BrandonW> She sharess the pain of the dead fish.
00:57 <@BrandonW> Due to human cruelty.
00:57 <@BrandonW> shares*
00:58 <@BrandonW> It's tragic, yet ironic.
00:58 <@BrandonW> I don't know, I'm just making stuff up.
00:59 < sir_lewk> she represents life, and the fish represents death
00:59 < Barrett_> who says the fish is dead?
00:59 < sir_lewk> the photos together represent the transition from life to death
00:59 < Barrett_> oh! she doesn't belong! she's a fish out of water!
00:59 < sir_lewk> ooh, there we go
01:00 < sir_lewk> that's pretty good
01:00 < Barrett_> but is that even a saying in russian?
01:00 <@BrandonW> No, which is why he's introducing it to his culture.
01:00 <@BrandonW> I think it's just empathy for its suffering.
01:00 <@BrandonW> No fish is happy in that condition.
01:01 < sir_lewk> he is the messenger of this potent yet distinctly non-russian expression
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01:02 <+ports> lol
01:02 <+ports> i wish i spoke russian
01:02 <+ports> then i could drink with some crazy people
01:02 < sir_lewk> I'd love to learn russian
01:02 <+ports> ive always wanted to rob a train with some russians
01:03 <+ports> the movie Van Wilder... it was made after a real guy.. he want to University of Florida or soemthing
01:03 <+ports> he got shitfaced in Russia once.. and accidentally robbed a train with some mobsters
01:03 < sir_lewk> wtf is this shit why is american idol on my tv
01:04 <@BrandonW> CONFORM
01:05 < sir_lewk> there we go, got the indy channel on
01:06 < sir_lewk> NOW I AM HIP
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01:07 < sir_lewk> it has some guy talking about playing in orchestras
01:07 < sir_lewk> this means I am now also cultured
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01:59 < millinao> woo, uploaded my first torrent
01:59 < i_c-Y> pirate
02:02 < millinao> to be fair, it is an obscure classical music CD made 11 years ago
02:05 < i_c-Y> pirate
02:06 < Spengo> yo ho ho and a bottle of rum
02:08 < j-b-r> Piracy bring me joy
02:08 < j-b-r> So there
02:10 < nikky> 'sup hos
02:19 < millinao> sup
02:21 < sir_lewk> how does one upload a torrent?
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02:22 < millinao> carefully
02:22 < sir_lewk> lol
02:24 < sir_lewk> grumble
02:24 < sir_lewk> busybox's vi doesn't support unicode
02:24 < sir_lewk> that is no good
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02:31 < nikky> haa
02:33 < nikky> run debian on your router
02:33 < nikky> Or... if you want it to not work
02:33 < nikky> ubuntu server
02:33 < nikky> loloolololol
02:34 < Barrett_> nikky, I so much want to be like you in every way
02:34 -!- Barrett_ is now known as barrett
02:35 < barrett> is it cool if I lowercase my nick like you?
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02:36 < millinao> no
02:38 < nikky> barrett: <3
02:38 < nikky> Move to Seattle@
02:38 < nikky> !
02:44 < i_c-Y> sir_lewk: pssh. unicode
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02:49 < millinao> seattle sucks
02:51 -!- BrandonW is now known as brandonw
02:51 <@brandonw> I want to be cool too. :(
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02:54 <@brandonw> Hey look! merthsoft's lowercase too!
02:54 < merthsoft> yay!
02:54 < merthsoft> lowercase is the way to be
02:55 < merthsoft> stop capitalizing your words, brandonw 
02:55 <@brandonw> :(
02:55 -!- brandonw is now known as BrandonW
02:55 <@BrandonW> I respectfully refuse.
02:56 < i_c-Y> cool people have cap(s) in their nicknames.
02:56 < JoeYoung> ...
02:57 < JoeYoung> I agree with BrandonW 
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03:01 < nikky> lower case is where it's at
03:02 < sir_lewk> yes
03:02 < sir_lewk> what the nikky said
03:05 < sir_lewk> actually, I think people who use their real names in their nicks are the coolest, but nobody knew who I was when I did that :/
03:06 < JoeYoung> I do that.
03:06 < millinao> who is this john greco
03:06 < nikky> yeah, who the hell
03:06 < JoeYoung> That's why I stopped using "mtgrss111"
03:06 < millinao> i'm surprised i was able to say that without looking at his
03:06 < millinao> wait, joeyoung is mtgrsss111?
03:06 < Jonimus> yeah millinao 
03:07 < millinao> mind <- blown
03:07 < Speler> lol
03:07 < Speler> I did that for a while
03:07 < Speler> But people didn't know who I was
03:07 < sir_lewk> I was jgreco for a week or so, but apparently I am a asshole and everyone got fed up with me
03:07 < sir_lewk> not knowing me as sir_lewk, everyone thought I was a new asshole :(
03:07 < millinao> you are a asshole
03:08 < sir_lewk> :`(
03:08 <@BrandonW> Call me a asshole...one more time.
03:08 < nikky> Asshole!
03:08 < Merthsoft> a asshole
03:08 < sir_lewk> why are you an asshole?
03:08 <@BrandonW> I was quoting Hancock, who says it like "a asshole".
03:09 < sir_lewk> oh, didn't see that
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03:16 < JoeYoung> ...
03:16 < JoeYoung> you ok, millinao? o.O
03:16 < millinao> ?
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03:16 < JoeYoung> I dunno, not sure if you were happy or disgusted I was mtgrss.... >.>
03:17 < millinao> dunno
03:17 < JoeYoung> !q
03:17 <@efneTI86> 1232: <i_c-Y> got him laid with your mother. | <mokomull> whattheshit? [Added: DarkAuron at 2008/03/24 18:38]
03:22 < i_c-Y> !q
03:22 <@efneTI86> 611: <@efneTI86> Quote 610 added | * Andy_J wins at life | <+ryantmer> lol | <+MrT2> lol | <+ryantmer> i think by saying "lol", MrT2 and I have established that we are two of said brain-dead users. [Added: Andy_J at 2006/07/23 00:25]
03:23 < JoeYoung> !qfind millinao
03:23 <@efneTI86> 1562:Ox40: [Ox40] I got pulled over, [...] I got my license and my passengers license [...] | <millinao> what's a passengers license
03:23 <@efneTI86> 1649:DSP_Lord: <millinao> yeah, consexual sex in the missionary position | <millinao> heh, consexual
03:23 <@efneTI86> 1199:chronomex: <millinao> That proves it: #tcpa is just as addictive as heroin.
03:23 <@efneTI86> (Plus 18 more matches: http://tcpa.aardy.net/quotes/?filter=millinao&channel=tcpa&search=search)
03:23 < millinao> oh god the highlights
03:23 < JoeYoung> :P
03:29 <+jr19> JoelS
03:30 < JoeYoung> hrmm....
03:30 < JoeYoung> !qfind jr19
03:30 <@efneTI86> 1622:Ox40: <jr19> i heard efnet is run by the taliban | <devoidofw> Weapons of mass communication?
03:30 <@efneTI86> 1620:Ox40: <krisk> what does it mean when a girl says she needs some wrapping paper and decorations so she can give herself to you as a present for your birthday | <jr19> it means you should give her that stuff
03:30 <@efneTI86> 1625:Ox40: <jr19> i wrote to a data stream once, but somehow my buffer overflowed and a child process was created and now i'm stuck in an endless loop
03:30 <@efneTI86> (All of 3 matches)
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03:31 < JoeYoung> only 3?
03:31 < JoeYoung> jr19, you're kind of lame :(
03:32 < JoeYoung> !qurl
03:32 < JoeYoung> er
03:32 < JoeYoung> !quoteurl
03:32 <@efneTI86> http://tcpa.aardy.net/quotes/
03:32 < JoeYoung> ack, well dang.
03:33 < JoeYoung> renew the damned domain!
03:33 <+jr19> !k JoeYoung no u
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03:39 < Speler> What's brown and rhyme's with snoop
03:39 < Speler> DR DRE!
03:41 < JoeYoung> soup
03:41 < JoeYoung> oh, and poop
03:44 < sir_lewk> aaah, clever
03:45 < sir_lewk> `ioq` is the queue that holds user I/O
03:45 < sir_lewk> that should not have been so hard to figure out >_<
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03:54 < Barrett> so... domino's pizza tastes pretty much the same to me.. with the exception of the crust now having garlic or something in it
03:54 < Barrett> I mean, I don't think it's gross or anything
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03:54 < Barrett> I like it
03:54 <@efneTI92> [TheStorm] Yes rivereye, it is time to go fishing.
03:54 < Barrett> but it isn't very different
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03:57 < Barrett> oh gosh
03:57 < JoeYoung> It's different enough.
03:57 < JoeYoung> It's not shit.
03:57 < Barrett> my gay roommate and his (gay?) friend are watching american idol
03:58 < Barrett> nothing against gays, but I feel like I have to make a lot of noise on my way out there so I don't catch them cuddling
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03:59 < Barrett> 'cause he isn't out of the closet yet
04:04 < Jonimus> wow that must be awkward Barrett 
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04:07 <@BrandonW> You'll be doing him a favor by going out there quickly and asking what in the hell he's doing in a loud voice.
04:07 <@BrandonW> Just get it out there.
04:07 < Barrett> JoelS, do you like fitbit?
04:08 < JoelS> yes
04:08 < Barrett> how does it know when you're asleep?
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04:08 < JoelS> you put it in sleep ,ode amd it teacks movement
04:08 < Barrett> interesting
04:09 < Barrett> so if I'm not moving, it thinks I"m sleeping?
04:12 < JoelS> i guess
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04:15 < iGenolo> My laptop doesn't look like it's going to turn on anymore
04:16 < iGenolo> on the upside my new one is like one town away from me
04:16 < iGenolo> and the hdd on this one doesn't have anything wrong with it
04:16 < iGenolo> Probably
04:17 < iGenolo> Since it had this problem and turned o
04:17 < iGenolo> n
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04:30 < Spengo> http://weeklyworldnews.com/celebs/4783/megan-fox-is-a-man/
04:30 < Spengo> ahahaha
04:31 < JoeYoung> is this for real?
04:33 < JoeYoung> I'm assuming not x.x
04:37 <+jr19> JoelS: is it possible to contact facebook somewhere and actually get a response?
04:40 < JoeYoung> (i hoped so, though I've never managed to find it)
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04:44 < Spengo> JoeYoung, weeklyworldnews
04:44 < Spengo> for real? :P
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04:45 < JoeYoung> I'm guessing it's like the onion but with more suck?
04:46 < DrDnar> The Onion?
04:46 < DrDnar> Why does it suck?
04:46 < JoeYoung> The Onion doesn't suck.
04:46 < bsparks> The Oatmeal > The Onion
04:46 < JoeYoung> The Onion causes real news stations to trip over themselves
04:46 < JoeYoung> fucking funny as hell.
04:47 < DrDnar> especially the Chinese one
04:56 < Spengo> JoeYoung, lol it does?
04:56 < JoeYoung> Yeah...
04:56 < Spengo> link to real news tripping over themselves
04:56 < JoeYoung> ok, hold on.
04:56 < Spengo> is it fox?
04:57 < JoeYoung> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Onion#The_Onion_taken_seriously
04:58 < Spengo> lul
05:01 < Spengo> >An article on Harry Potter inciting kids to practice witchcraft was believed by many to be real and was forwarded by many concerned Christians.[25] Columnist Ellen Makkai and others who believe the Harry Potter books "recruit" children to Satanism have also been taken in by the article, using quotes from it as "evidence" for their claims.
05:01 < Spengo> haha oh wow
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05:04 <@efneTI92> [Tyler2] I no longer speak fluent dialup.
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05:06 < Spengo> I can't find it's gay to smoke
05:06 < Spengo> maybe some loser got butthurt about it
05:06 < Spengo> good thing you can always find youtube mirrors
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05:11 < Geno`-`> lol i think i bricked my ipod again
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05:15 < Geno`-`> if i could boot this thing directly into safemode it'd be easy to fix
05:16 < Geno`-`> actually
05:16 < Geno`-`> ipods don't even have a real safe mode
05:16 < Geno`-`> saurik made it
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05:22 < Randomist> I made epic fail on financial aid, and, now, my grandmother is now twenty-eight hundred dollars in debt to put me though college this semester.  FML.
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05:25 < Genolo> god damn
05:25 < Genolo> bricked ipod again
05:25 < Genolo> and my laptop won't turn on so i can't fix it
05:25 < Genolo> i swear iphone OS is coded so crappily
05:26 < tr1p1ea> damn what is with this MASSIVE latency from my ISP?
05:26 < DrDnar> Hmm, sounds like another company we know. . . .
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05:33 < Genolo> i need a new mobile media player thing
05:33 < Genolo> one that can play flac
05:33 < Genolo> and doesn't crash whenever you install something
05:34 < i_c-Y> ?
05:35 < Genolo> how does i bricked iphone
05:35 < i_c-Y> you're an idiot.
05:35 < Genolo> yeah i am
05:35 < Genolo> i tried setting a giant png as the background for springboard
05:36 < Genolo> to see what would happen
05:36 < Genolo> because you aren't supposed to use pngs
05:36 < Genolo> nevermind giant pics
05:36 < Genolo> and hey whaddya know it bricked
05:36 < Genolo> again
05:37 < Randomist> No PNGs?  Boooooo!
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06:05 <@efneTI92> [Netham45] "Rock is overpowered, paper is fine." -Scissors
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06:06 <@BrandonW> Anybody else staying up tonight?
06:09 < Genolo> probably me but i'm sure you don't care
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06:09 <@BrandonW> Why would you say that?
06:09 < Genolo> i don't think anyone would care
06:09 <@BrandonW> What do you plan on doing?
06:09 < Genolo> well
06:10 < Genolo> in order to not fail this math semester i have to do a crap load of work and then pass a test tomorrow
06:10 < Genolo> this is what i get for being out of school two weeks
06:10 < Genolo> and not making up the work
06:10  * Randomist does not -- plans to go to bed at an actual reasonable time tonight.
06:10 < Genolo> the two weeks i was out i didn't do any of the homework or learn any of the lessons
06:10 < Genolo> i just took the tests
06:11 <@BrandonW> Why were you out?
06:11 < Randomist> Holidays?
06:11 < Genolo> swine flu
06:11 <+Netham45> BrandonW, something special worth staying up for?
06:11 < Randomist> Oh.  Oof.
06:11 <+Netham45> sucks, Genolo. :(
06:11 < Genolo> indeed
06:12 <@BrandonW> If you mean what am I doing, I'm implementing the NavNet protocol through usb8x, meaning 84+/SE<->TI-Nspire/CAS transfers.
06:12 <@BrandonW> The ultimate goal being to exploit the Nspire/CAS from the 84+/SE.
06:12 <+Netham45> Woo
06:12 <+Netham45> on-the-go TI-NSpire Exploitation
06:12 <@BrandonW> Indeed.
06:13 <+Netham45> Is the exploit released now perminant, or does it need to be re-executed every time you want to exploit?
06:13 < Genolo> HMM
06:13 < Jonimus> its perminant but not released
06:13 < Genolo> er caps
06:13 < Genolo> i have pretty decent grades considering
06:13 < Jonimus> they are keeping it to themselves till they know they have a backup if TI fixes it to quickly
06:14 <@BrandonW> Re-executed every time you want to exploit, but this is a very early beta and unreleased. There's most certainly potential without that restriction and with the ability to persist after OS upgrades.
06:14 <+Netham45> Okay
06:14 <@BrandonW> We can already hook into the OS.
06:15 < Genolo> 84 in P.E., 99 in health, 82 in dynamics, 89 in bio, 86 in comp sci, 84 in english, and 90 in spanish
06:15 <@BrandonW> There's no reason at all why we couldn't have a shell/kernel of some sort very quickly.
06:15 < Genolo> and then there's that 65 in math
06:15 < Genolo> wow it just isn't my day today
06:16 <+Netham45> So it's possible to have persistant changes in the OS?
06:16 < Genolo> i bricked my ipod touch, my laptop won't turn on 
06:16 < Genolo> and if i don't do all this stuff i'll fail math
06:16 <@BrandonW> I don't know the details yet but that's believed to be true.
06:16 <@BrandonW> I myself don't understand the exploit yet, I want to get this NavNet stuff done before I try.
06:16 <+Netham45> Okay.
06:16 <@BrandonW> I do have dumps of the communication.
06:16 <@BrandonW> So I can reproduce it.
06:17 <+Netham45> Cool.
06:17 < Genolo> perhaps i should just bullshit all the math homework and then study a lot for the test
06:17 <@BrandonW> In theory, anyway...that's the purpose of this, to see if I really can duplicate the communication and have it work.
06:17 < Genolo> as long as i do the homework i think i get credit
06:17 <@BrandonW> That can be the backup plan.
06:17 <@BrandonW> If you get stressed and freak out because you can't do it.
06:22 <@BrandonW> I'm planning to make this usb8x-like in that you have a driver and API you can use for transfers to/from the Nspire/CAS, but also a UI to transfer files back and forth (in the form of AppVars) and stuff like that.
06:22 <@BrandonW> Since Nspire/CAS files are so freaking huge, they'll probably have to be stored right in Flash.
06:23 <@BrandonW> Huge relatively-speaking, anyway.
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06:27 < DrDnar> How do you make BASIC generate the two's complement of a 16-bit number? It's obvious, really. First, you typecast the number to a 32 integer, then use MKL$ gets its internal representation as a length-prefixed string. Then you just have to strip off the last two bytes of the string and use CLI to convert the string back into an integer.
06:28 < DrDnar> Apparently, Microsoft's BASIC is little endian.
06:28 <@BrandonW> I think this occasion calls for a "BASIC sucks" comment.
06:28 < DrDnar> It really does. But you wrote your OS2 Tools in .NET BASIC.
06:29 <@BrandonW> Yeah, don't remind me.
06:29 <@chronomex> BASIC sucks
06:30 <@BrandonW> Although if you absolutely must use an incarnation of it, use .NET.
06:31 <@BrandonW> Where's our USB host driver, chronomex?
06:31 < nikky> basic sucks
06:32 < Genolo> god damn i can't get these speakers to output anything but static
06:32 < DrDnar> Hmm, .NET BASIC has bitwise operations. That could reduce the memory footprint of the font editor by 100K.
06:33 <@chronomex> BrandonW: up my ass and around the corner
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06:33  * DrDnar doesn't care to make that change
06:34 <+Netham45> DrDnar, I've tried dealing with them
06:34 <+Netham45> they're a trial in insanity
06:34 <+Netham45> (In VB.Net, that is)
06:34 <+Netham45> iirc, there were some quirks with them that caused them to not work sanely
06:34 < DrDnar> How in world can you screw up bitwise operations other than accidental conversion to booleans?
06:35 <+Netham45> they didn't wrap, iirc. 101010 shifted left one became 010100
06:35 <@BrandonW> Look who you're asking, DrDnar.
06:35 < DrDnar> Fool. You multiply and divide by two to do that.
06:35 <+Netham45> :(
06:36 < DrDnar> .NET BASIC doesn't actually claim to have bitshifting, does it?
06:36 < Genolo> i'm trying to find some way to listen to music
06:36 < Genolo> my ipod is bricked
06:36 < Genolo> my laptop isn't turning on
06:36 < DrDnar> Actually, it does.
06:36 < Genolo> never bothered installing sound drivers on this thing
06:36 < DrDnar> "Visual Basic .NET now supports arithmetic left and right shift operations on integral data types (Byte, Short, Integer, and Long). Arithmetic shifts are not circular, which means the bits shifted off one end of the result are not reintroduced at the other end."
06:37 <@BrandonW> Sweet, I'm at a point where I can queue up NavNet packets and handle them.
06:37 < Genolo> i could use the wii but that plays music out loud......
06:37 < Genolo> unless there is a random headphone jack
06:37 < DrDnar> Huh, they have << and >>.
06:37  * Netham45 disappears, night.
06:38 <@BrandonW> This might be some of the cleanest USB code I've written.
06:38 < DrDnar> Netham45: They claim to have bit shifting, not Z80-style rotations.
06:38 < DrDnar> No! It can't be so!
06:38 <@BrandonW> I know that's a contradiction, but still.
06:38 <@BrandonW> "clean" and "USB", not "clean" and "my code".
06:38 < Merthsoft> cyyyyygwin
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06:41 < Barrett> why is there always one guy in my apartment who talks about 14 times louder than necessary?
06:41 < Merthsoft> kill him
06:42 < Merthsoft> and eat him
06:42 <@BrandonW> Preferably in that order.
06:42 < Exploiter> anyone know of a windows exe for pulling music off ipods?
06:43 < DrDnar> Why not kill him by eating him?
06:43 < DrDnar> Careful---he might have parasites. 
06:44 <@_Auron_> wow
06:44 <@_Auron_> Moon owns
06:45 < DrDnar> Moon?
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06:46 < DrDnar> Generating 8xps on your own is just SO much fun.
06:46 <@efneTI92> [KermM] http://www.cemetech.net :: Leading The Way to the Future
06:46 <@BrandonW> What are you doing that for?
06:47 < DrDnar> To export fonts so you don't need to assemble them.
06:47 < DrDnar> (Ignore the lack of a main verb in there.)
06:48 < Buckeye> Exploiter: try floola
06:48 < Merthsoft> I just accidentally a coke bottle.
06:48 < DrDnar> I just accidentally a main verb.
06:49 < Merthsoft> Did you accidentally the whole thing?
06:49 < DrDnar> The whole verb!
06:49 < Merthsoft> You should to a hospital.
06:51 <@BrandonW> Verb aphasia?
06:52 < Merthsoft> BrandonW apashia
06:52 < Exploiter> what the hell is the disk access mode for ipods called?
06:52 < Exploiter> i need to just flip that on and then you turn hidden files on
06:54 <@BrandonW> Mass storage?
06:54 < DrDnar> !qsearch mass storage
06:55 < DrDnar> !qsearch mass storage
06:55 <@BrandonW> I know the right way to search quotes, but I'm not going to tell you because I know what you're trying to bring up.
06:55 < Merthsoft> !qfind mass storage
06:55 <@efneTI86> 1145:aardvarq: <BrandonW> Does the iPhone show up as a mass storage device? | <aardvarq> I dunno. That's what your mom shows up as though.
06:55 <@efneTI86> (All of 1 match)
06:56 <@BrandonW> It's such a stupid joke. :(
06:56 < Merthsoft> wtf
06:56 < Merthsoft> that's stupid as balles
06:56 < Merthsoft> and aardvarq added it himself
06:56 < Merthsoft> !qdell 1145
06:56 < Merthsoft> !qdel 1145
06:56 <@efneTI86> Deleted quote 1145
06:56 < Merthsoft> heh, dell
06:56 < DrDnar> His domain is expired.
06:56 < DrDnar> hahaha
06:57 <@BrandonW> I think he died.
06:57 < DrDnar> ok
06:57 < Merthsoft> !qfind poop
06:57 <@efneTI86> 967:Andy_J: <Merthsoft> http://tcpa.aardy.net/quotes/?filter=poop&search=search&channel=tcpa <-- That's sad | <Merthsoft> there isn't a single tcpa quote with the word poop in it... | <tr1p1ea> its sad that you searched for it
06:58 <@efneTI86> (All of 1 match)
06:58 < Merthsoft> meta quote!
07:00 < Genolo> hmm
07:00 < Genolo> when i get a new laptop should i give more space to windows or linux
07:01 < Genolo> i use windows a hell of a lot less but linux can actually deal with ntfs
07:01 < Genolo> so the windows would sort of be a shared drive
07:01 < DrDnar> Or you could use the ext2 driver for Windows.
07:02 < Genolo> that works too
07:02 < DrDnar> as long as you don't have to fsck
07:02 < Genolo> i've had to fsck before
07:02 < Genolo> i screw up my filesystem on a regular basis actually
07:04 < Merthsoft> i've fsck'ed a few times
07:04 < Merthsoft> it's pretty ace
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07:06 < Genolo> what
07:06 < Genolo> mplayer wii can load music off of ftp
07:06 < Genolo> o_-
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07:07 <@_Auron_> ftw?
07:08 < Merthsoft> fuck the world!
07:08 <@_Auron_> [12:45:33am] <DrDnar> Moon? <-- sci-fi movie
07:08 <@_Auron_> Merthsoft: lol
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07:12 < DrDnar> Emulated Wabbit won't accept my 8XPs.
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07:12 < DrDnar> And my keyboard keeps doubling the letter X whenever I type it.
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07:13 < DrDnar> Not all the time, just sometimes.
07:13  * DrDnar tries popping the key off and replacing it.
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07:14 < DrDnar> Gah
07:15 < nikky> :(
07:17 < Genolo> someone should port wabbit to the iphone
07:17 < DrDnar> For some reason, sending the 8XP to the emulated 84 crashes it in Wabbit.
07:17 < nikky> How about... destroy all iphones
07:18 < Genolo> iphones need to be able to play flac natively
07:18  * DrDnar gives the keyboard a medium thunk
07:18 < Genolo> and they need to not crash after you install something
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07:19 < Genolo> finished one of my math assignments
07:19 < Genolo> woo
07:19 < Genolo> only a couple more to go
07:20 < DrDnar> BrandonW: How easy is it for a corrupted file transfer to crash TIOS?
07:20 <@BrandonW> If you don't futz with the link protocol, I don't see how it would be possible.
07:21 <@BrandonW> It's easy to do to an 86.
07:21 <@BrandonW> But I've forgotten how.
07:21 <@BrandonW> I did it many times with X-Link.
07:21 < Genolo> i wish i had money
07:24 < Merthsoft> !k Spengo FEAR ME
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07:24 < Spengo> :<
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07:24 < DrDnar> That was random
07:25 < Merthsoft> no, you just think it was
07:25 < Spengo> indeed
07:26 < Genolo> i wish there was a player on wii that supported mkv
07:26 < Spengo> I need another beer
07:36 <@_Auron_> mplayer doesn't?
07:37 < DrDnar> Ohh, I did not get that . . . when you make an 8XP, the length of the program appears thrice.
07:37 < Genolo> maybe i have an old version
07:37 < DrDnar> Twice in the header, and the program itself has the length as a header, just like in RAM.
07:37 < Genolo> i know geexbox plays mkv but no ntds
07:37 < Genolo> ntfs*
07:38 < Genolo> afaik anyway
07:38 <@BrandonW> Correct, DrDnar.
07:38 <@BrandonW> It's a little bit stupid.
07:39 < DrDnar> Maybe an invalid length word confused TIOS
07:40 <@BrandonW> Oh, yeah, you can pass it a really wonky data length for a program or something.
07:40 <@BrandonW> That'll confuse the TI-OS.
07:40 <@BrandonW> Crash it outright, I don't know.
07:40 < DrDnar> It still won't accept it, but now it doesn't crash when I load it.
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07:41 < DrDnar> Ah ha! It's loading the file, but it must be getting gibberish for the file name, as it's not appearing on-calc.
07:41 < DrDnar> It's loading because the amount of free memory changes.
07:43 <@BrandonW> Are you doing this by hand or are you trying to write a program that generates 8XPs?
07:43 < DrDnar> I'm trying to write a program that generates 8XPs.
07:44 <@BrandonW> Just so you know, where the link protocol guide says that one field always has a value of 0Dh, that's not true, that's actually the size of the header to follow.
07:44 <@BrandonW> Some 8XPs have 0Bh, others 0Dh.
07:45 < DrDnar> That makes more sense.
07:46 < DrDnar> It never provides the mythical list of variable type IDs.
07:46 < DrDnar> Ohhh, shoot.
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07:47 < DrDnar> I'm an idiot. I wrote this to generate 8XVs!
07:47 < Genolo> oh ho ho
07:47 < DrDnar> And sure enough, the appvar is there.
07:47 < Genolo> the newest geexbox plays mkv 
07:48  * aksnowman can't wait till he has free time again
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07:48 < aksnowman> I wanna get back into z80 asm again and try some of those hacks BW and I discussed previously
07:48 < aksnowman> w/ the ram pages and all that other random stuff that I barely remember as vague ideas now...
07:48 < aksnowman> haha
07:48 < aksnowman> and bedtime :(
07:48 < aksnowman> later
07:49 < Genolo> the last time i did anything calculator related was 7th grade i think
07:49 < DrDnar> That's when I got my calculator,
07:49 < aksnowman> it's been several years for me too, really
07:51 < DrDnar> Oooh, gibberish.
07:52 <@BrandonW> I'm afraid to go to sleep, because if I do, I'll never figure out why/how I wrote any of this code.
07:54 < Genolo> that's why we put comments
07:56 < DrDnar> Haha, and now I learn I've been generating my bits backwards.
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08:06 <@BrandonW> CRC sucks.
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08:07 <@efneTI92> [LordMathi] I'm not a ninja, no idea what you're talking about.
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08:10 < DrDnar> Ah, it works now.
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08:12 <@efneTI92> [_Auron|G1] We called it Sin.
08:25 <@BrandonW> Unfreakingbelievable, that CRC algorithm worked on the first try.
08:26 < DrDnar> There are Z80 CRC aren't there? Isn't there one on the Wiki?
08:26 <@BrandonW> Don't say that. :(
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08:27 < DrDnar> http://wikiti.brandonw.net/index.php?title=Z80_Routines:Security:CRC16 http://wikiti.brandonw.net/index.php?title=Z80_Routines:Security:CRC32
08:28 <@BrandonW> It wouldn't apply in my cas.
08:28 <@BrandonW> case.*
08:28 < DrDnar> What CRC are you doing?
08:29 <@BrandonW> The one on http://hackspire.unsads.com/wiki/index.php/USB_Protocol#DirEnumInit
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09:47 < al_b> ping
09:47 < al_b> anyone alive here mind taking a quick look at some specs for a PC I'd like to buy?
09:48 < al_b> basically old faithful (this PC) is dying, and I've been out of the game for a while. I have not really spent a heap of time researching parts and I don't want to buy something stupid
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09:51 < Nefff> what are you getting
09:52 < al_b> ah goody, chanel isn't dead :)
09:53 < al_b> 5 secs I'l taek a screenshot
09:53 < al_b> http://tecnamer.net:8080/pc.jpg
09:55 < al_b> also I don't suppose anyone knows what exploit was used to run native code on the nspire?
09:57 < DSP_Lord> al_b, it's late night #tcpa.
09:57 < DSP_Lord> hence, dead time.
09:57 < E-J> late night, i just woke up
09:57 < DSP_Lord> why hello E-J :)
09:58 < E-J> because hello DSP_Lord 
09:58 < DSP_Lord> lol
09:58 <@BrandonW> I am so close to requesting all sorts of information from the Nspire, like serial number, free RAM/Flash, etc....
09:58 < DSP_Lord> silly.
09:58 < DSP_Lord> wait...
09:58 <@BrandonW> al_b, I think it's a printf exploit, I'm still digging.
09:58 < DSP_Lord> elaborate, BrandonW.
09:58 < DSP_Lord> you mean besides the obvious way of poking through the menus?
09:59 <@BrandonW> I'm writing an application for the 84+/SE through usb8x to communicate with the Nspire/CAS through its NavNet link protocol.
09:59 <@BrandonW> The ultimate goal being to send the exploit to it from an 84+/SE.
10:00 <@BrandonW> It's kind of a mess of a protocol...
10:00 <@BrandonW> But I think I have it all set up.
10:00 <@BrandonW> If it would just respond...
10:00 < DSP_Lord> so basically you're remotely hacking an Nspire?
10:00 <@BrandonW> I'm duplicating USB logs.
10:00 <@BrandonW> Yes.
10:00 <@BrandonW> The same way you use a PC to do it through the exploit.
10:00 < DSP_Lord> sheesh
10:02 < al_b> BrandonW, you are hardcore.
10:02 < al_b> don't suppose anyone has any comments about the PC parts? If not I'll just order the damn thing
10:02 < DSP_Lord> ¯\(°_o)/¯
10:03 <@BrandonW> I don't know how I'm going to get through work today...
10:03 < al_b> good lord, he's had a heart attack and collapsed on his keyboard
10:04 < nikky> hey al_b!
10:04 <@BrandonW> RESPOND, DAMN YOU! It requests an address from me and I give it one, and now I'm trying to request device info.
10:04 <@BrandonW> I get this working and the file management service is as good as done.
10:04 < al_b> sup nikky
10:05 < nikky> that looks like a cool computer
10:05 < nikky> except for the windows part ;)
10:05 < DSP_Lord> elitist.
10:05 < nikky> if you're wanting to see actual like... commentary on the parts
10:06 < nikky> you'll have to kick i_c-Y
10:06 < al_b> !j i_c
10:06 < al_b> !k i_c
10:06 < al_b> !k i_c-Y
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10:06 < al_b> I'm not sure why that was required, but sure
10:07 < nikky> well
10:07 < nikky> in a more metaphorical sense
10:07 < al_b> I'm buying windows 7 because MS can pry XP out of my cold, dead hands
10:07 < nikky> but sure
10:08 < al_b> but sadly modern hardware makes is a PITA to run on XP, so virtual XP mode it is
10:08 < al_b> oops. 
10:08 < nikky> he's asleeo anyway
10:08  * al_b is 'spergin out
10:08 < nikky> :)P
10:09 < al_b> screw it I'll just order it. What's the worst that'll happen
10:10 < al_b> ooh, and I'll get a new KB/mouse instead of this yucky 10 year old one
10:10 < al_b> anyway what's new in the zany world of #TCPA?
10:11 < nikky> meh
10:12 < nikky> Nspire stuff
10:12 < al_b> TI are pricks for not making a supported 'go to native code' command
10:13 < al_b> if I worked for TI I'd 'accidently' include several exploits and verbally tell someone in the community about one 
10:13 < al_b> also I would spend some time learning how to spell
10:14 < nikky> haha
10:14 < nikky> luckily coders don't need to spell
10:15 <@BrandonW> Then when TI finds out the exploit is in a part of code you wrote and that you definitely knew better, they fire you.
10:15 < al_b> I'm not so sure about that
10:15 < al_b> that leads to APIs with misspelt function names
10:16 < nikky> meh]
10:16 < al_b> BrandonW: have you seen the underhanded C contest?
10:16 <@BrandonW> Nope.
10:16 < al_b> I'm sure it can be done with plausible deniability
10:16 < al_b> http://underhanded.xcott.com/
10:17 < al_b> We hereby announce the fifth annual contest to write innocent-looking C code implementing malicious behavior. In many ways this is the exact opposite of the Obfuscated C Code Contest: in this contest you must write code that is as readable, clear, innocent and straightforward as possible, and yet it must fail to perform at its apparent function. To be more specific, it should do something subtly evil.
10:17 < nikky> <3
10:21 < al_b> _surely_ a good percentage the programmers/engineers would think it'd be neat if someone wrote programs to make their hardware do something cool
10:22 <@BrandonW> They know it can do something cool.
10:22 <@BrandonW> They don't get much out of it by doing it anyway.
10:22 <@BrandonW> We already have a Game Boy Color emulator running on it.
10:22 < al_b> hence you see things like oscilloscopes with hidden games of tetris/pong. 
10:23 < al_b> no I'm not saying they should do it, but it isn't exactly much work to make an asm( command or something
10:25 <@BrandonW> I just fixed a stupid bug...I can feel it, it's going to work...
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10:26 <@BrandonW> Oh hell yes...
10:28 <@BrandonW> YES!
10:28 <@BrandonW> We're talking.
10:29 < DSP_Lord> #tcpa: BrandonW's twitter.
10:29 <@BrandonW> :(
10:29 < DSP_Lord> hey, it could be worse.
10:29 < DSP_Lord> could be Randomist's twitter.
10:29 < DSP_Lord> besides, at least we get to find out what hax you accomplished lately :)
10:30 < DSP_Lord> was just mostly an observation and not meant to be mean.
10:31 <@BrandonW> I can't believe this is actually working.
10:31 <@BrandonW> I only have a couple more hours to get this fleshed out.
10:31 <@BrandonW> And then real life sets in.
10:32 < DSP_Lord> you know, i just realized something.
10:32 < DSP_Lord> do you have a job?
10:32 <@BrandonW> Yeah.
10:32 < DSP_Lord> i don't know why that's never occured to me before.
10:33 < DSP_Lord> probably because i don't particularly recall you mentioning it before.
10:33 <@BrandonW> I thought maybe I was mentioning it excessively.
10:33 <@BrandonW> Maybe you're just never around.
10:33 < DSP_Lord> this is true.
10:34 < DSP_Lord> i'm going out on a limb here and guessing you do something tech-related.
10:34 <@BrandonW> I'm a software developer for a call center.
10:34 < DSP_Lord> oh, haha
10:34 < DSP_Lord> nice.
10:35 < al_b> that's actually his cover job
10:35 < al_b> he really works for NSA
10:35 <@BrandonW> VB.NET by day, assembly by night.
10:35 < DSP_Lord> heh
10:35 < DSP_Lord> here i thought maybe TI had been paying him under the table to keep quiet or something.
10:38  * al_b whistles
10:38 <@BrandonW> This protocol would be so much easier to implement with threading.
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13:44 < bsparks> Hey
13:45 < bsparks> HEY
13:45 < bsparks> why isn't the new version of Emu8x in the topic?
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13:52 < bsparks> Welcome to #tcpa | GameBoy emulator Nspire http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Rg4RdN2FAU | emu8x faster and supports TI-81 http://www.detachedsolutions.com/emu8x/
13:53 < bsparks> err
13:53 < bsparks> !t Welcome to #tcpa | GameBoy emulator Nspire http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Rg4RdN2FAU | emu8x faster and supports TI-81 http://www.detachedsolutions.com/emu8x/
13:53 -!- efneTI86 changed the topic of #tcpa to: Welcome to #tcpa | GameBoy emulator Nspire http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Rg4RdN2FAU | emu8x faster and supports TI-81 http://www.detachedsolutions.com/emu8x/
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13:55 <@efneTI92> [KermM] http://www.cemetech.net :: Leading The Way to the Future
13:55 <+jr19> E-J: a lot of the snow is melting here
13:56 <+jr19> temperatures are supposed to be above freezing at least the next week
14:06 < incubus> nice
14:06 < incubus> It's a heatwave here man, 40s and 50s :D
14:06 <+jr19> not that warm here, but up in the 30s
14:07 <+jr19> which is welcome after the last couple weeks of negative and near-negative temperatures
14:09 < E-J> worst time in autumn, winter and spring is when snow is melting
14:09 <+jr19> its weird that we're getting temperatures this warm during what's normally the coldest part of the year
14:10 <+jr19> why is it the worst time
14:10 <+jr19> ?
14:11 < E-J> jr19: http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/1094530146045938517NdrVvP you like it?
14:11 < E-J> slush all around or even wet slush
14:12 <+jr19> lol yeah
14:12 <+jr19> it kinda gets that way here, but it's more that way a little bit after a heavy snowfall than it is in the spring
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14:14 < E-J> and of course if after that temp goes below zero again it's ice ice everywhere
14:15 < E-J> i assume incubus doesn't even know what we are talking about since he is southern boy :)
14:15 <+jr19> yeah i dont know if it will freeze tonight or not
14:15 <+jr19> they put so much damn salt on the roads here that i dont think its possible
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14:17 < E-J> salting might be the easiest way to keep ice away from roads
14:18 <+ports_> i hope not
14:18 <+ports_> jr19:  arent you in the upper 20s over night?
14:18 <+jr19> probably mid to upper
14:19 <+ports_> same here
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14:21 <+jr19> finally on the downhill side of the week
14:21 <+ports_> yeah
14:21 <+ports_> its downhill alright
14:21 <+jr19> the rest of my week shouldn't be that bad
14:21 <+ports_> ive gotta get a 10 foot tall tank, through a 10 foot tall door... and under 9 foot tall pipes in the building
14:21 <+ports_> but luckily... the building has an 11.5ft ceiling
14:21 <+jr19> duct tape
14:22 <+ports_> duct tape can move a roof?
14:22 <+jr19> i dunno, supposedly it can do anything
14:22 < E-J> yeah, that's why it's called jesus tape here
14:23 <+jr19> exactly
14:23 <+jr19> what if jesus was just some crazy man
14:23 <+jr19> kinda like hitler
14:23 <+jr19> getting people to follow him
14:24 <+jr19> cuz he was good at speaking
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14:25 <@efneTI92> [i_c-Y] It's like I'm the last sane person on Earth.
14:26 <+jr19> and al_b takes off as soon as i_c-Y returns
14:26 < i_c-Y> haha
14:26 < i_c-Y> well al_zzz is still on.
14:27 <+ports_> lol
14:27 <+ports_> what is jesus didnt exist
14:27 <+ports_> jr19:  i need to block that fatty from last night
14:27 <+ports_> she said her birthday is dec 23rd... and thinks itd be a good idea for us to celebrate together
14:27 <+ports_> thats a fucking year away.. psycho
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14:27 <+jr19> good timing though
14:28 < E-J> jr19: i think he was good speaker, i don't really know about those miracles, like everything else in bible, it's only manmade written text
14:28 <+jr19> she was probably just saying that to make conversation
14:28 <+ports_> i guess so
14:28 <+ports_> im just very literal.. i dont offer things that i dont think really are possible
14:32 <+jr19> i was so tired when i woke up this morning
14:33 <+jr19> i didnt even bother to change brody out of his pajamas, i just changed his diaper and put his coat on him and took him to my mom's
14:37 <+ports_> lol
14:37 <+ports_> your mom will change him lateri m sure
14:37 <+ports_> im sure
14:37 <+ports_> you keep clothes and things for him over there dont you?
14:38 <+jr19> i took clothes with
14:38 <+ports_> oh ok
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14:39 <+ports_> i brought my space heater to work
14:39 <+ports_> this thing is insane
14:39 <+ports_> i know it uses a lot of power...
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14:42 <+ports_> yeah.. it has an 800W mode and 1500W mode
14:42 <+ports_> insane for a $15 space heater
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14:53 < i_c-Y> al_zzz: heres my comments: itestate doesn't have a wide selection of boards. my only qualm with the one you selected is that it performs very slightly worse than other i7 board (trivially so), and it has 4 RAM slots. i don't know any other retailers in NSW either. go with 06936 for your memory - 1333 MHz kits are for sissies. then tweak. PSU - acceptable, rather pricey, would check somewhere else for another model if possibley. Again, little sel
14:53 < i_c-Y> (did that get cut off?)
14:53 < bsparks> yes
14:53 <+jr19> yes
14:53 < i_c-Y> where
14:54 < bsparks> "Again, little sel"
14:54 <+ports_> i hate blind people
14:54 <+ports_> another disabled group ruining things for other people.
14:54 < i_c-Y> al_zzz: http://pastebin.ca/1751022
14:54 <+ports_> 4 colleges that were running Kindle programs for textbooks had to shut them down
14:54 <+ports_> because while the Kindle has text to speech functions... it does not have T2S for Menus... so they couldnt navigate the device
14:55 <+ports_> why cant blind people still use their braille hardcover textbooks... and let sighted people use the Kindles?
14:57 < i_c-Y> also al_zzz , you may want to consider some other cooling if you're planning on OC'ing.
14:59 < i_c-Y> Noctua NH-U12P SE2 is your only good option on that site, al_zzz 
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15:16 < sir_lewk> is there a way to get the time of the last reboot in windows?
15:16 < sir_lewk> like `last reboot` in linux?
15:17 <+jr19> open cmd.exe
15:17 <+jr19> net statistics workstation | more
15:17 <+jr19> look at "Statistics since..."
15:17 < sir_lewk> this fucking windows machine decided automatically rebooting during some automated tests I was running was clever
15:18 < sir_lewk> cool, thanks
15:18 <+jr19> i think server 2003 has an uptime program too
15:19 <+jr19> apparently server 2008 r2 doesn't though....hm
15:29 <@Andy_J> if you're on win7 (maybe vista?) task manager shows the uptime
15:29 <+ports_> crap
15:29 <+ports_> the internet is dying here
15:29 <@Andy_J> on the performance tab
15:30 <@Andy_J> if you have a network connection which is always on, that shows how long it's been connected, too
15:31 < sir_lewk> we have xp
15:32 <+ports_> i have xp too :(
15:32 <@Andy_J> the network connection method still works
15:32 <+jr19> i'm also using xp
15:33 <@Andy_J> net statistics workstation is such a horrible hack
15:33 <+ports_> i wish i was on win7
15:33 <+jr19> yeah but it gives you a specific date and time
15:33 <+jr19> instead of a duration
15:33 < mokomull> sir_lewk: I've had that happen when domain admins push out an update
15:34 <+jr19> well...fuck my mobile internet connection today.
15:34 < mokomull> jr19: sounds uncomfortable.
15:34 <@Andy_J> yesterday was also Wednesday After Patch Tuesday
15:34 <@Andy_J> so it probably rebooted for that
15:35 <+jr19> at 3am :D
15:36 < mokomull> This, folks, is another reason why I use Linux :)
15:36 <+ports_> hmmm
15:36 <+ports_> i love patch wednesday
15:36 <@Andy_J> or, you know, configuring your windows systems properly works too
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15:36 <+jr19> it's better to use a dead operating system....no updates!
15:39 <+Netham45> Yay minix!
15:40 < sir_lewk> mokomull: indeed >_>
15:40 < E-J> http://i.imgur.com/Vgvmj.jpg
15:40 < i_c-Y> minix is still updated.
15:40 <+Netham45> really?
15:40 < sir_lewk> yes
15:40 <+Netham45> oh
15:40 <+Netham45> well, nevermind then.
15:41 < i_c-Y> really.
15:41 < sir_lewk> that operating system remains a joke of course though
15:41 < i_c-Y> the point of it was so that it would be simple enough for coursework, and now they're going for simple embedded stuff as well.
15:41 < incubus> :D
15:41 < sir_lewk> it's tried to go more mainstream, but nobody uses it
15:42 <+jr19> O/S2?
15:42 <+jr19> err
15:42 <+jr19> is it OS/2?
15:42 <+jr19> i dont even know
15:42 < i_c-Y> no, tanenbaum has repeatedly stated that its not really targetting mainstream use, sir_lewk 
15:42 < E-J> os/2 yes
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15:42 < sir_lewk> he's added more and more features to make it more suitable for desktop style usage
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15:42 < E-J> my uncle had disks of os/2 like 20 years ago
15:42 < E-J> os/2 warp
15:43 < sir_lewk> not really mainstream usage, that's the wrong word
15:43 < bsparks> my bank's ATM still uses OS/2 Warp
15:43 < sir_lewk> usage outside of academia
15:43 <@Andy_J> a lot of ATMs still use OS/2
15:43 <@Andy_J> or at least used to ... XP Embedded seems to be gaining ground.
15:44 < i_c-Y> its still primarily targetted for education. 
15:44 < i_c-Y> win 3.11 embedded is still pretty popular actually as well.
15:44 < bsparks> Win 3.11 embedded is solid too
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15:45 < merthsoft> Any of you guys good with access?
15:45 < bsparks> merthsoft, what kind of access? Security access? Girl's pants access? 
15:45 < sir_lewk> can one be good with something that is itself not good?
15:46 < E-J> bsparks: i think ms access ...
15:46 < bsparks> Ms. Access would not like you in her pants E-J 
15:46 < merthsoft> yeah ms access
15:46 < E-J> i have been end user of some access made things and i know it sucks
15:47 <+jr19> i know bits and pieces about access
15:47 < i_c-Y> its okay when you use it within its designed scope ie. very small databases.
15:47 <+jr19> but only because the place i work at used to use it more exclusively
15:48 < merthsoft> I've got a table, and I want one of the columns of the table to be the quotient of two other columns (per row)
15:49 < merthsoft> I've tried to set the default value and stuff, but I'm apparently doing it wrong
15:50 < sir_lewk> dudes
15:50 < E-J> i_c-Y: i have used it in like where it holds every item except keys and eyeglasses that are delivered to helsinki police lost and found unit
15:50 < sir_lewk> there is some guy at my job named Bruce Lee :O
15:50 < E-J> something like 10k per year
15:51 <+jr19> that's because finns are a bunch of drunkards
15:51 <+jr19> and probably lose things a lot
15:51 <+jr19> ;)
15:52 < sir_lewk> I often lose things whilest drunk
15:52 < sir_lewk> like my dignity ;P
15:52 < E-J> jr19: well helsinki holds 500k people and lots of stuff from nearby cities/towns comes there and of course there are many tourists every year
15:53 < incubus> E-J, what's the age of consent in Finland
15:53 < incubus> The age you can have sex at legally
15:53 < E-J> incubus: 16
15:53 < incubus> O_O
15:53 < i_c-Y> sir_lewk: can't lose what you don't have.
15:54 < sir_lewk> :<
15:56 < E-J> incubus: why do you ask, planning to move here?
15:56 < bsparks> he's gonna move there and sex up the children
15:56 < i_c-Y> wow. the thinkpad edge sucks
15:57 < i_c-Y> chiclet keyboard , no scroll lock, no pause/break, no printscreen/sysrq
15:57 < sir_lewk> what is it?
15:57 < sir_lewk> oh my
15:57 < sir_lewk> that is terrible
15:57 < sir_lewk> thinkpad keyboards are normally the number one reason to get a thinkpad...
15:58 <+ports_> oh
15:58 <+ports_> what is Sysrq used for anyway?
16:01 < i_c-Y> people use it for rebooting linux machines
16:01 < i_c-Y> resuib tric
16:01 < i_c-Y> iub
16:01 < i_c-Y> busier backwards
16:01 < i_c-Y> its on the same key as printscreen.
16:02 < i_c-Y> (see: magic sysrq key)
16:02 < i_c-Y> and you also have it used in debuggers.
16:03 < i_c-Y> they also removed scroll lock which means no serious excel user is going to touch it
16:03 < i_c-Y> among other people.
16:03 < Jonimus> heh my laptop doesn't have scroll lock either
16:05 < i_c-Y> loser.
16:05 < Jonimus> hey your the one I suggested I get the laptop I ended up getting
16:06 < Jonimus> or at least it was one of the ones you suggested
16:06 < sir_lewk> some day they are going to do something like remove the insert/delete/home/end/pgup/pgdn keys
16:06 < sir_lewk> madness
16:06 < i_c-Y> Jonimus: i know. it doesn't stop me from calling you a loser though.
16:06 < Jonimus> true
16:06 < sir_lewk> i_c-Y: loser
16:07 < i_c-Y> sir_lewk: loser.
16:07 < i_c-Y> theyre going to remove all the fn keys too soon
16:07 < i_c-Y> then the ctrl key - nobody uses that
16:07 < i_c-Y> then the letter q will be optional
16:08 < i_c-Y> thinkpad edge has worst keyboard ever
16:09 <+jr19> merthsoft: are you trying to run a query to divide the two columns and make a third?
16:09 <+ports_> Jonimus:  are you genolo?
16:09 < bsparks> wait wait wait, i_c-Y is the Thinkpad Edge their NETBOOK?
16:09 <+jr19> -!-  ircname  : TheStorm
16:09 < i_c-Y> no, you idiot.
16:10 < i_c-Y> its their new thinkpad
16:10 < i_c-Y> when lenovo got the thinkpad line
16:10 < i_c-Y> they had R,T,X
16:10 < i_c-Y> lenovo added W which is 17" , SL which is a downgraded R without the rollcage and what not
16:10 < i_c-Y> a T series with a fucked keyboard
16:10 < i_c-Y> and now Edge 
16:11 <+ports_> how does a laptop roll cage work?
16:11 <+ports_> is it just for the hdd?
16:12 < i_c-Y> http://gizmodo.com/258878/lenovo-t61-thinkpads-magnesium-rollcage--wolverines-bones
16:17 <+ports_> cool
16:20 <+ports_> has anyone ever been latin dancing?
16:20 < bsparks> I've seen a latino dance
16:21 <+ports_> is it dirty?
16:21 <+ports_> like lots of bumping, rubbing?
16:21 < bsparks> ¯\(°_o)/¯
16:22 <+ports_> lame
16:23 < sir_lewk> the T series is badass
16:24 < sir_lewk> least my T is
16:25 <+ports_> yeah
16:25 <+ports_> that T61 sounds really cool
16:25 <+ports_> expensive though
16:26 <+ports_> i think im getting a 13.3" screen laptop with no dvd drive for my next one
16:26 <+jr19> my friend works for IBM and has a thinkpad of course
16:26 <+jr19> it's a huge piece of shit
16:27 <+ports_> did you submit that application at ibm?
16:27 <+jr19> yeah
16:28 <+ports_> cool
16:28 <+ports_> you could be a BB admin
16:28 <+ports_> and give me free BBs
16:29 <+ports_> man thatd be waesome
16:29 <+ports_> best friend ever
16:29 < mokomull> BB?
16:29 <+ports_> mokomull:  blackberry
16:29 < mokomull> oh
16:29 < mokomull> ew
16:29 < i_c-Y> sir_lewk: pity your T will never be as good as my R.
16:30 <+ports_> Q is better than all of yours
16:31 < mokomull> Isn't R series just the cheapo ones?
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16:33 <+ports_> Q comes first
16:33 <+ports_> someday id like to own a much nicer laptop
16:33 < sir_lewk> bah
16:33 < sir_lewk> the R's are all think and stuff
16:33 <+ports_> sir_lewk:  what kind of pizza did you make last night
16:34 < sir_lewk> my T is thin as buttah
16:34 < sir_lewk> hmm, that made more sense in my head
16:34 < sir_lewk> butter is not thin.
16:34 < sir_lewk> also, s/think/thick/
16:34 < sir_lewk> mokomull: I thought so, my mom got an R series
16:35 < sir_lewk> the T's are thin and highend, the W's are something, dunno
16:35 < sir_lewk> they used to have a Z, some sort of "media geared" thing
16:37 < i_c-Y> mokomull: slightly thicker, same internals as T.
16:37 < i_c-Y> unless if you get the super high end T
16:37 < i_c-Y> it was also like 200 dollars cheaper when i bought it too.
16:38 < sir_lewk> ports_: pepperoni
16:38 < sir_lewk> with a little bit of salsa mixed into the sauce
16:39 < sir_lewk> which was a great touch btw, highly recommended
16:39 < sir_lewk> chipotle salsa, kind of spicy
16:41 <+ports_> dude
16:41 <+ports_> awesome
16:41 <+ports_> the chili salsa or the corn?
16:41 <+ports_> im thinking about making a taco pizza this weekend
16:42 <+jr19> who puts  corn salsa on pizza?
16:44 <+ports_> on taco pizza
16:44 < sir_lewk> the chili salsa
16:45 <+ports_> hmm
16:45 < sir_lewk> just a little bit
16:45 <+ports_> did you make the chili salsa?
16:45 < sir_lewk> no, got it at trader joes
16:45 <+ports_> oh ok
16:45 < sir_lewk> I should make salsa though, that's a good idea
16:45 <+ports_> i want to know how they make it
16:45 <+ports_> my friend works there.. i wonder if she can steal me the recipe...
16:45 <+ports_> shes pretty anal retentive.. she'd feel guilty about it and not do it
16:46 < sir_lewk> :/
16:47 < E-J> sir_lewk uses chipotle salsa while nerds use shibboleth salsa
16:47 < E-J> ...
16:47 <+jr19> wat
16:49 < E-J> shibboleth is technology what my uni uses for secure login for some services
16:50 < i_c-Y> sounds hebrew
16:50 <+jr19> that's what i was thinking
16:51 <+ports_> sounds jewish
16:51 < E-J> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shibboleth_(Internet2)
16:51 < E-J> hebrew word
16:52 <+ports_> Tomatillo-Red Chili Salsa (Hot) This salsa of puréed chiles de arbol, tomatillos and fresh spices is smooth, full-bodied and a rich, rusty red color. Very hot. Vegetarian.
16:52 <+jr19> are there many salsas that aren't vegetarian?
16:53 <+ports_> yes
16:53 <+ports_> monkey brain salsa
16:53 < E-J> isn't there a dance called salsa
16:53 <+ports_> yes
16:53 < E-J> äh, music style
16:54 < i_c-Y> jr19: salsa is just the word for sauce i think. 
16:54 < E-J> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salsa apparently also programming language
16:54 < sir_lewk> if you put salsa dancers in your salsa, it would not be vegetarian
16:54 <+ports_> lol
16:54 < sir_lewk> I think
16:55 < sir_lewk> I'm not an expert on the topic or anything ;)
16:55 <+ports_> im so warm right now :)
16:56 <+jr19> yeah i think it is just sauce
16:57 <+jr19> i guess when us ignorant americans think of salsa though, we think of the kind with tomatoes and peppers and what not
16:58 < sir_lewk> well that is the mexican type of salsa right?
16:58 < sir_lewk> pretty sure salsa is mainly from mexico
17:00 <+jr19> probably
17:00 < sir_lewk> emu8x has ti-81 emulation now, have we had a ticalc article for this joyous occasion yet?
17:01 < bsparks> idk, MV broke the news on Facebook
17:01 < sir_lewk> yeah
17:11 <+ports_> fuck
17:11 <+ports_> so much for being warm
17:11 <+ports_> i popped a breaker
17:12 < nikky> ok...
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17:13 < nikky> I'm trusting that you're capable enough to fix it.
17:13 <+ports_> nope
17:13 <+ports_> cant find which breaker popped
17:13 <+ports_> theyre all still in the On position
17:13 <+ports_> maintenance is coming over to take a look.. probably ruined the fuse in it..
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17:23 < sir_lewk> just flip them all
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17:24 <+jr19> can't hurt
17:24 < nikky> (off)
17:24 < nikky> (and leave them there)
17:27 <+krisk> yohi
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17:35 < doc_who> hello
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17:38 < sir_lewk> flip them all off, then come back to your computer for further instructions
17:38 < i_c-Y> you do realize that laptops have batteries, right?
17:38 < i_c-Y> and he may have an UPS.
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17:40 <+doc_who> lolwut
17:40 <+doc_who> im curious what the conversation leading up to that was sir_lewk 
17:40 < incubus> laptops have batteries???????
17:40 < sir_lewk> his router would die though surely?
17:41 < sir_lewk> doc_who: "<+ports_> i popped a breaker"
17:41 <+doc_who> oh
17:41 <+doc_who> just flip it back then?
17:42 < sir_lewk> he also didn't see any that were popped
17:42 < sir_lewk> dunno
17:43 < i_c-Y> sir_lewk: tethering?
17:43 < i_c-Y> from a phone?
17:43 < i_c-Y> router on the UPS?
17:43 < i_c-Y> mifi?
17:43 < i_c-Y> steal someone elses wifi?
17:44 <+doc_who> my c++ 4 function calculator doesnt work right
17:44 <+doc_who> it cant handle numbers >= 10
17:46 <+doc_who> wait i think i figured out the problem
17:47 < sir_lewk> i_c-Y: you are no fun :P
17:47 <+doc_who> yeah that was a dumb question
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17:53 <+krisk> what's a cheap external hdd enclosure with lan port?
17:53 < nikky> old computer
17:53 <+doc_who> how do i get a cs internship if i have barely any real world experience?
17:53 <+krisk> isnt that what the internship is for?
17:53 <+doc_who> yeah, ideally
17:54 <+doc_who> but you need experience to get the internship
17:54 <+doc_who> it's a vicious cycle
17:54 < i_c-Y> you mean a nas? you're better off just getting a nslu2 and a regular usb enclosure.
17:54 <+doc_who> krisk, ive seen some and i think they were like 60-80 usd
17:54 < i_c-Y> or a usb enclosure and a router that has support for attached storage
17:55 < i_c-Y> or just attaching it to a computer.
17:55 <+krisk> yeah i connected a usb enclosure to my router but its slow as hell
17:55 < sir_lewk> old computers are cheapest, and more useful
17:55 < sir_lewk> old computers can be had for free
17:56 < i_c-Y> well a cheap NAS will be just as bad.
17:56 < i_c-Y> if not worse.
17:56 < i_c-Y> which router od you have?
17:56 <+krisk> dir 655
17:56 < i_c-Y> why dont you just hook it up to a PC thats always running and just share the disk?
17:56 <+doc_who> krisk, http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=40000092%201054213783&ShowDeactivatedMark=False
17:57 < i_c-Y> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/
17:57 <+krisk> yeah with 5mBps ill just take it apart and put the drive itself inside my computer
17:57 < i_c-Y> doc_who: the point was to improve the performance, dumbass
17:58 <+doc_who> i_c-Y, what?
17:58 <+doc_who> how am i a dumbass?
17:58 <+doc_who> i linked to enclosures with lan ports
17:58 < i_c-Y> which all suck.
17:59 <+doc_who> and that makes me a dumbass how?
17:59 < i_c-Y> because the point of his question was to improve performance.
17:59 <+krisk> without spending as much as buying a new drive
18:00 < i_c-Y> not to mention the second product only accepts fat32 drives according to the reviews on the first page, etc.
18:00 <+krisk> i dont understand why the router cant share it faster than 5mBps
18:00 < sir_lewk> put neon leds on it, that makes computer stuff faster right?
18:01 < sir_lewk> maybe it's just not powerful enough?
18:01 < i_c-Y> you might have a shit enclosure.
18:01 < i_c-Y> sir_lewk: nah, the dir 655 gives decent results.
18:01 < sir_lewk> my router can bearly keep track of all of my connections while doing NAT and torrenting
18:01 <+krisk> ahahaha torrenting
18:02 <+krisk> theresyourproblem.jpg
18:03 < incubus> lol
18:03 <+krisk> i get 90-100mBps when I plug the ecnlosure into my case's front usb
18:04 < sir_lewk> haha
18:04 < sir_lewk> more like NAT is my problem, but that is a bit unavoidable with residential connections
18:05 <+krisk> none of the connections should bottleneck this to 5mBps, or anywhere under 120 for that matter
18:06 < sir_lewk> dunno
18:06 < sir_lewk> networking is boring, I don't do it
18:08 < i_c-Y> i doubt you do over USB. anyhow, its not exactly the cheapest thing to do, so speeds will clearly be lower on the router. USB is shit.
18:09 < i_c-Y> if you want good performance, either shell out for a good NAS or attach it to a computer.
18:09 < i_c-Y> if firewire wasn't so greedy...
18:13 <+krisk> 93mBps over front usb right now
18:13 <+krisk> kinda ridiculous that the router pulls it down to 5
18:14 < nikky> shut it
18:14 <+krisk> or the software
18:16 < i_c-Y> what the hell is a mBps anyway. MBps and Mbps.
18:16 <+krisk> MB
18:16 < bsparks> µBps
18:16 <+krisk> caps on the m doesnt matter to me
18:17 < i_c-Y> i seriously doubt you're getting 93MBps over USB.
18:17 <+krisk> thats what widnows 7 told me
18:17 <+krisk> lets see
18:17 <+krisk> shouldnt usb 2 be 60 MBps max?
18:18 <+krisk> hmm it apepars the dialog is silly
18:19 < i_c-Y> no shit sherlock.
18:19 <+krisk> it drops down to 44MBps while the transfer is going
18:19 <+krisk> file wasnt big enough to notice
18:19 < i_c-Y> think of how fast an actual hard drive transfers to the SATA controller to begin with and your answer didnt evne make sense from that
18:20 < i_c-Y> 44 is still rather high for USB - USB's sustained transfer sucks ass.
18:20 <+krisk> hmhmm
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18:22 < i_c-Y> all factors considered, 5 MBps from the dir 655 isn't bad when you consider it. 
18:22 <+krisk> really?
18:22 < i_c-Y> really.
18:23 <+krisk> idk, thats usb thumbstick speed
18:24 < i_c-Y> if you want better, hook it up to a computer or spen dmoney on a GOOD NAS.
18:24 < i_c-Y> which is going to cost you more than you can afford so hook it up to a computer.
18:25 < i_c-Y> and then just share the drive that way.
18:25 <+krisk> yeah
18:25 < i_c-Y> anyhow, i make sure external drives i buy have fw 400.
18:25 < i_c-Y> beats USB 2.0 for hard drives any day.
18:26 < Jonimus> i_c-Y: what about esata?
18:26 <+krisk> it was just something to try and see if this would make an easy network share so i dont have to have my pc on
18:26 < i_c-Y> i don't have a computer with esata. if i did, id get drives that had usb, esata, fw
18:26 <+krisk> i was expecting to just put it in and connect to sata anyway
18:26 < i_c-Y> or usb , esata
18:27 < i_c-Y> because usb is just ht emost common and esata gives the best performance out of things you see on consumer end hardware.
18:28 < sir_lewk> google better slow down, at this rate I might start liking them
18:28 < bsparks> sir_lewk, what this tome?
18:28 < sir_lewk> I approve of their handling of the china thing
18:28 < bsparks> ah, indeed
18:29 < sir_lewk> of course, that will probably only take a single "dude, google is so awesome" from my roommate to put me back firmly in google hating territory
18:29 < sir_lewk> ;)
18:29 < bsparks> XD
18:29 < Jonimus> lol, I thought you were talking Droid or something
18:30 <+krisk> woah im not the only one who doesnt really like/care for google?
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18:33 <+jr19> i'm feeling a little OCD today
18:33 <+krisk> hi jr
18:33 <+jr19> hey krisk 
18:33 <+jr19> for some reason it was bothering me before that i had a bunch of folders open
18:34 < sir_lewk> krisk: oh no, not at all
18:34 <+jr19> i'm reading this thing on our intranet that men should just work on having a waist size that is less than 40 inches
18:34 <+jr19> 40 inches is huge
18:34 < sir_lewk> my dislike is usually in the indifference to annoyance range though
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18:35 < incubus> jr19, how about 7.5?
18:35 < sir_lewk> jr19: across or around?
18:35 < sir_lewk> because both are probably possible
18:36 <+krisk> am i silly if i play a video of a fireplace on my tv?
18:36 < sir_lewk> I don't think 40 inches around is *that* huge, but around is usually how it's messured right?
18:36 < incubus> krisk, very
18:36 < sir_lewk> do it
18:36 < sir_lewk> and drink hot coco
18:37 <+krisk> [12305]-[#a.b.hdtv.x264@EFNet]-[ Fireplace.1080p.BluRay.DTS.x264-PerfectionHD ]-[00/25] "Fireplace.1080p.BluRay.DTS.x264-PerfectionHD.nzb" yEnc
18:37 <+jr19> sir_lewk: around
18:37 < sir_lewk> krisk: nice
18:37 <+krisk> ironically its pretty cold in my room
18:37 <+doc_who> lol
18:37 <+jr19> its been hot in my office all morning
18:38 <+doc_who> they probably ripped it from that silly fireplace thing they show on christmas day
18:38 < leofox> ok
18:38 <+krisk> yeah it was pretty hot at my office too
18:39 < leofox> apparently there's a site where you can learn the na'vi language from the avatar movie
18:39 <+krisk> yo leofox
18:39 <+krisk> also, :|
18:39 < sir_lewk> leofox: gey
18:39 < leofox> it's actually an entire language
18:40 < sir_lewk> why do writers do that
18:40 < leofox> becauswe it's fun
18:40 < sir_lewk> they should know it's just going to become something that people use to ridcule their fans with
18:40 <+jr19> meh
18:40 < sir_lewk> like klingon
18:40 < leofox> i'm going to try to learn it for a bit
18:40 < leofox> artificial languages are easy anyway
18:41 < sir_lewk> who makes up a language for a TV show?  it's crazy
18:41 < E-J> sir_lewk: maybe that's the reason, they want it to be new klingon
18:41 < E-J> or that language on lotr
18:41 < sir_lewk> ooh, I like your thinking
18:41 < sir_lewk> trekkies did it to divert attention from themselves! :D
18:41 <+jr19> i prefer the language that greedo speaks
18:41 < leofox> this sound file is too shitty to learn it
18:41 < sir_lewk> i prefer it when greedo gets shot
18:42 < leofox> kau'te ma sir_lewk
18:42 < leofox> haha I feel so nerdy
18:42 <+jr19> han shot first
18:42 < Jonimus> leofox: talk to Tari 
18:43 < sir_lewk> nerds!  I am surrounded by nerds!
18:43 < leofox> Ok i thought this was going to be easier
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18:43 < Jonimus> he's an op in the na'vi irc chan iirc
18:43 <+jr19> nerds. EVERYWHERE
18:43 <+krisk> no, sir_lewk, you are the nerds
18:43 < leofox> apparently there's only interviews with the creator
18:43 < sir_lewk> here I thought coming to a calculator channel would be a good way to converse with normal people >_>
18:43 < E-J> why to learn artificial language used in some movie when you can learn finnish
18:43 < leofox> there's a na'vi IRC channel?
18:44 < Jonimus> leofox: ofc
18:44 < leofox> E-J: in the big bang theory one of the characters learned finnish
18:44 < sir_lewk> E-J: see, I would actually learn finnish
18:44 < leofox> because he was bored
18:44 < Jonimus> not sure what network though
18:44 < leofox> also finnish is so ugly
18:44 < E-J> leofox: and dutch isn't?-)
18:44 < leofox> no
18:44 < leofox> ok well it is
18:44 < leofox> but I already know dutch
18:44 < sir_lewk> and blue people arn't?
18:44 < leofox> sir_lewk: blue boobies hmmmm
18:45 < sir_lewk> haven't seen it
18:45 < leofox> it's kinda odd to see the humans and the aliens interact
18:45 < leofox> because the aliens are like 3m
18:45 < leofox> for example when pocahontas has to rescue john smith in human form
18:46 < leofox> you see john smith as taller as pocahontas all the time, but suddenly she's much taller
18:46 < leofox> the world itself is so real though
18:46 < Jonimus> yeah I agree leofox 
18:46 <+krisk> 4chan is down?
18:47 < Jonimus> it was a very well done movie
18:47 < E-J> leofox: which one on that series, they show it here as well
18:47 < leofox> E-J: the newest one
18:47 < leofox> double date
18:47 < leofox> oh i found the irc
18:47 < leofox> it's on irc.learnnavi.org port 6667
18:47  * Tari wonders wtf kaw'ti was supposed to be
18:47 < sir_lewk> I'll probably see it this weekend
18:48 < leofox> hey tari
18:48 < Tari> Kaltxì ma leofox 
18:48 < leofox> ugly transliteration is ugly
18:48 < leofox> jaja kaltxì ma tari
18:48 < leofox> sup
18:48 < Tari> lurking and freeing up space on my hard drives
18:49 <+jr19> who has the time to sit around on irc and teach an unofficial language
18:49 <+jr19> err artificial
18:49 < Tari> woo conlang
18:49 < Tari> and I do, apparentl
18:49 < Tari> y
18:49  * Jonimus lacks the motivation to teach himself another language
18:49 < leofox> why are you op on the na'vi irc channel you shxawng
18:49 < Tari> skxawng
18:49 < Tari> I was on EFNet, not on the new server
18:49 < leofox> oh that word was actually written in the movie
18:49 < leofox> shouldve known
18:49 < Tari> it always amuses me when they pronounce phonemes that the language lacks
18:50 < sir_lewk> did the navi things even write?
18:50 < Tari> for example, the j sound is always zh
18:50 < sir_lewk> how can you teach a spoken language on irc?
18:50 < leofox> awesome Euwa just talked to me
18:50 < Tari> there's no canonical written language
18:50 < Tari> you don't need it when you have USB
18:50 < leofox> haha 
18:50 < leofox> i know right
18:50 < leofox> I wish i had that
18:50 < leofox> like you could just plug into a horse
18:51 < sir_lewk> is there even a real canonical language, or is this just something nerds made up to fill in gaps from what was said in the movie?
18:51 < Tari> it's very real
18:51 < Tari> they hired a USC linguist to design the language
18:51 < sir_lewk> ok
18:51 < Tari> everything we know comes from what he's said about it
18:51 < sir_lewk> well, that is less nerdy at least
18:52 < Tari> well, feel free to doubt my sanity/nerdiness
18:52 < Tari> or lack thereof
18:52 < Tari> http://media.taricorp.net/uploads/screens/screen-14012010.png :D
18:54 < incubus> I was sad after walking out of Avatar
18:56 < leofox> Tari: they look so weird in 2d
18:56 < Tari> I had fun compositing that image
18:56 < leofox> I know the only reason i'm so affected by this movie is because of the sensory decentration of watching a 3d movie anyway
18:57 < incubus> indeed
18:57 < leofox> but i'm going to have some free time
18:57 < incubus> leofox, decentration?
18:57 < leofox> sensory decentration
18:57 < incubus> ?
18:57 < leofox> it's what happens when you come across a new sensation
18:57 < leofox> that your brain isnt used to
18:58 < incubus> weird word
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18:58 < leofox> I learned it in school
18:58 < Jonimus> yeah the realism still haunts me a little, I wish I had seen itn in Imax 3d now rather than just a normal theater
18:58 < leofox> it might be poorly translated
18:58 < incubus> it's not in the dictionary, must be new
18:58 < incubus> or it's a medical term
18:58 <+krisk> wat is the dutch word?
18:58 < leofox> decentrering
18:58 < Tari> more medical, it seems
18:58 < leofox> de nieuwe techniek decentreerd je wereldbeeld
18:59 < Tari> http://www.medilexicon.com/medicaldictionary.php?t=23016
18:59 < incubus> Jonimus, YOU DID NOT SEE IT UNLESS YOU SAW IT IN 3D
18:59 < incubus> PERIOD
18:59 < leofox> waardoor je je beeld weer moet centreren
18:59 < leofox> dit proces noemt men mediatie
18:59 < Tari> I dragged him along, incubus, but IMAX 3d was sold out
18:59 < incubus> you failed then
18:59 <+doc_who> incubus, http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/Movies/01/11/avatar.movie.blues/index.html
18:59 < Tari> so we went to regular 3d
18:59 < Jonimus> incubus: it was in 3d but not an IMAX screen
18:59 < leofox> en helpt mensen in het begrijpen van nieuwe media en techniekenb
18:59 < bsparks> incubus, what about the people that can't see it in 3D? :(
18:59 < incubus> You either see that movie in 3d or you don't fucking see it
18:59 < leofox> I didnt see it in imax
18:59 < incubus> bsparks, Fail.
18:59 < incubus> Imax 3d or go home
18:59 < incubus> dear god
18:59 < incubus> it was so good
18:59 < leofox> but the 3d at our cinema was great
18:59 < leofox> it didnt even feel like a movie
19:00 < leofox> it felt like a dream
19:00 < Tari> mmhmm
19:00 < incubus> doc_who, I was very depressed
19:00 < bsparks> so because I get migranes from 3D movies, I shouldn't even bother seeing it>
19:00 <+krisk> were you high?
19:00 < incubus> I wasn't a fanboy or anything, but the world was quite appealing
19:00 < leofox> i was actually sceptical
19:00 < incubus> bsparks, it took my eyes a while to get used to it
19:00 < Jonimus> the 3d was still pretty awesome and we had great seats
19:00 < leofox> I knew it was just pocahontas with blue elves
19:00 < leofox> but wow, was it the greatest pocahontas with blue elves i've ever seen
19:00 < incubus> The storyline was lame after the halfway point
19:00 < incubus> but man was it spectacular
19:01 < leofox> I liked the storyline
19:01 < Jonimus> yeah the plot was kinda hem IMO but the effects were amazing
19:01 <+krisk> cant even find the word in the dutch dictionary
19:01 < bsparks> incubus, I'm not gonna pay $18 to go see a movie and have a migraine for half of it just because it took half the movie to get used to it. That is a waste of $18
19:01 < leofox> it was good 50 years ago in dances with wolves
19:01 < leofox> and it fits the theme
19:01 < incubus> leofox, it wasn't BAD, it was just Eh.
19:01 < incubus> indeed good call on plot matching
19:01 < leofox> incubus i think I know what you mean
19:01 < sir_lewk> I hate native americans, do all the blue people get blown up by the terran people?
19:01 < incubus> It worked better in Dances With Wolves
19:01 < Tari> yes, sir
19:01 < Tari> er
19:01 < Jonimus> bsparks: the 3d is done better than most things
19:01 < Tari> tab, not enter
19:01 < leofox> for me it was bad because it was something i'd seen before
19:02 < leofox> the hanging willow seen from pocahontas was copied directly
19:02 < sir_lewk> sweet
19:02 < incubus> lol!
19:02 < incubus> I didn't even think about that
19:02 < incubus> Dear lord
19:02 <@Andy_J> bsparks: $18?!
19:02 <@Andy_J> more like $10
19:02 < incubus> leofox hit the nail on the head
19:02 < leofox> it was exactly the same
19:02 < incubus> yup
19:02 < Tari> and then the humans get blown up later
19:02 < Tari> but not all of them
19:02 < leofox> grandmother willow
19:02 < bsparks> Andy_J, $18 for the CHEAPEST 3D ticket I could find locally.
19:02 <+krisk> i read they took the planet/world/natives from some russian book
19:02 < leofox> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UajX9NZlONE
19:02 < bsparks> That is a non IMAX ticket too
19:02 < incubus> leofox, YOU JUST RUINED THE MOVIE FOR ME
19:02 < incubus> GTFO
19:02 < sir_lewk> yeah, it's $12 in philly
19:02 < incubus> FFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
19:02 < leofox> incubus didnt you notice?
19:03 < incubus> I haven't seen Pococraptus in 15 years ma
19:03 < incubus> man
19:03 <@Andy_J> $10 for a 3D matinee ticket here
19:03 < incubus> I didn't remember or think about that
19:03 < leofox> tree with hanging vines that talks with the voices of the ancestors
19:03 <@Andy_J> $6.50 without the 3D
19:03 <+jr19> lol pocahontas
19:03 < bsparks> 3D and IMAX could run me $20+
19:03 < leofox> where the characters kiss a lot
19:03 < Tari> but it's a USB tree!
19:03 < bsparks> and even then, it's fake IMAX
19:03 < incubus> leofox, shutup!! :*( it's real dammit! It was real to me!
19:03 < incubus> bsparks, REAL Imax isn't worth it
19:03 < incubus> you don't need a 15 story screen
19:03 < bsparks> incubus, I saw Batman Begins projected on a real IMAX screen :D
19:03 <@Andy_J> I'm totally sold on 3D movies now.
19:04 < incubus> bsparks, I saw it on an Imax screen that completely surrounded my field of vision
19:04 < Tari> as long as they're done as well as Avatar was.. yeah :D
19:04 <+doc_who> arent practically all new movies coming out in 3d?
19:04 < incubus> I had to turn my head to see most of the screen
19:04 < incubus> doc_who, oh yah, it's hella profitable
19:04 < leofox> it's so odd to see it in youtube quality
19:04 < leofox> in 2d
19:04 <+doc_who> if that Rock tooth fairly movie comes out in 3d im committing suicide
19:04 < leofox> it's not even the same movie
19:04 < incubus> People want to see it in 3D, they can't download the movie and watch it in 3d at home
19:04 <@Andy_J> I wouldn't say practically all
19:04 <@Andy_J> it still costs a lot more to use
19:04 < leofox> haha the falling from the cliff was in pocahontas too
19:04 < incubus> doc_who, IT'S COMING OUT IN 3D, I SWEAR
19:04 <@Andy_J> especially if you're mostly live-action
19:04 < incubus> doc_who, I saw the previews, it's 3d
19:04 <+jr19> lunch!
19:05 < incubus> leofox, we all hate you
19:05 < incubus> seriously
19:05 < incubus> or at least me
19:05 <+doc_who> /wrists
19:05 < incubus> stop ruining the movie
19:05 < Tari> they did just recently ratify a standard for 3D on BD
19:05 <@Andy_J> I should have gone to see toy story and toy story 2 when they ran them in 3d for a couple weeks a few months ago
19:05 < bsparks> Andy_J, really? 2 or 3 companies came out in December with plans, and one of them I guess is already on the market with really really cheap [ comparatively ] 3D cameras
19:05 <+krisk> i havent even seen avatar yet and i already knew it was pocahontas before its premiere
19:05 <@Andy_J> bsparks: if not just for the simple fact that you're recording twice as much footage :)
19:05 < bsparks> Like, what would normally be 50k cameras are now running $10k
19:05 <+doc_who> incubus, the previews alone make me want to kill myself
19:06 < incubus> doc_who, I thought it was cute for kids
19:06 < bsparks> ehh, they're all digital now Andy_J 
19:06 < bsparks> just swap HDDs :D
19:06 <+doc_who> or at least kill the Rock
19:06 <@Andy_J> HDDs are still not cheap
19:06 <@Andy_J> and I would assume they use redundant drives
19:06 <@Andy_J> when you csonider how much data is involved
19:06 < bsparks> as far as I know the 3D cameras don't
19:06 < incubus> http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/Movies/01/11/avatar.movie.blues/index.html
19:06 < sir_lewk> I didn't know they had regular cameras for $10,000
19:06 < incubus> THAT GUY IS EATING A FUCKING PIZZA
19:06 < Tari> remember kids, Keruseya ayna'vi keo aytìrol rol. :D
19:06 < bsparks> but I hadn't seen the specifics 
19:06 < incubus> Did ANYONE notice that??
19:07 < sir_lewk> don't they always rent those things they are so expensive?
19:07 < incubus> doc_who, did you notice the pizza box?
19:07 < leofox> incubus: thats what i mean
19:07 <+doc_who> what pizza box?
19:07 < leofox> it's sensory decentration
19:07 < leofox> it makes people ill
19:07 < leofox> it isnt because people want to go to pandora
19:07 < incubus> doc_who, look at it
19:07 < incubus> http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/Movies/01/11/avatar.movie.blues/index.html
19:07 < incubus> in the picture
19:07 < leofox> its because their minds arent used to hypermediated 3d
19:07 < incubus> Look at the guy in the second row
19:07 < leofox> and perfect CGI
19:07 < bsparks> Andy_J, though, they may be. I saw on the Hist channel that these new ones are basically 4 HDDs + 2 cameras + Mac Mini 
19:08 <+doc_who> incubus, LOL
19:08 <+doc_who> i see it
19:08 < incubus> leofox, did you notice the humans walked to the spaceship without masks at the end?
19:08 < incubus> doc_who, lol it's even in his mouth
19:08 < incubus> What a fat ass, he brought a fucking pizza
19:08 < leofox> incubus i didnt
19:08 < leofox> i thought they had masks?
19:08 < incubus> nope
19:08 < leofox> what kind of atmosphere does pandora have?
19:09 < incubus> Horrible
19:09 < incubus> Don't you remember
19:09 < leofox> low oxygen?
19:09 <@Andy_J> thin atmosphere
19:09 < leofox> just thin?
19:09 <@Andy_J> due to the smaller size of it an lower gravity
19:09 < incubus> ya just thin oxygen
19:09 < leofox> because sergeant burly walked around fine with no mask
19:09 <+krisk> thus explaining the bigass cats and dragons
19:09 < leofox> like holding your breath
19:09 < incubus> he was holding his breath
19:09 < incubus> and the guy rushed out with a mask
19:09 < leofox> yeah and john smith survived for a while too without mask
19:09 < incubus> heh
19:10 < leofox> i should really stop using the pocahontas names
19:10 <+krisk> why would you hold your breath if the athmosphere is just thin
19:10 <+krisk> you could still breathe it
19:10 < leofox> it would get me banned on #na'vi
19:10 <+krisk> so it takes longer to pass out
19:10 < sir_lewk> yeah, people can climb everest without masks
19:10 < leofox> krisk: there might be poisonous gasses
19:10 < sir_lewk> *badass* people
19:10 < leofox> in the atmosphere
19:10 < leofox> the movie doesnt tell
19:11 <+krisk> toxicity makes sense, just lacking oxygen doesnt
19:11 <@Andy_J> it most certainly is a lower pressure because when he forces that door open the atmo all rushes out of that command center
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19:11 <+krisk> i was supposed to see it last saturday
19:11 <+krisk> and the saturday before that
19:11 <+krisk> and before that
19:11 <+krisk> :|
19:12 < sir_lewk> it's in theatres at least another 1.5 weeks around here
19:12 < sir_lewk> probably longer I bet
19:12 < sir_lewk> krisk: yeah, same thing going on with me
19:13 <+krisk> it was sold out once and the other two times my friends couldnt make it
19:13 <+krisk> even though they had made reservations for it the day before
19:14 < sir_lewk> I walked 2 miles through 2 feet of snow to go see it a few weeks ago
19:14 < sir_lewk> it was still sold out
19:14 < incubus> Do they have Avatar Porn yet??
19:14 < incubus> (No seriously... I need to know)
19:15 < leofox> incubus i'm sure they do
19:15 < E-J> google it, and find out there is atleast comics
19:16 < incubus> lol E-J looked
19:16 < E-J> of course
19:17 <@Andy_J> incubus: of course they do
19:17 <@Andy_J> rule 34, man
19:17 <+krisk> huh i dont see any blue peoples in the porn
19:17 <+krisk> this is confusing
19:18 < sir_lewk> the blue people don't have fur, duh
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19:36 <+krisk> awkward silence or is everyone busy fapping to na'vi porn now?
19:37 < leofox> i was in the shower
19:38 <+ports_> lol
19:39 < Goplat> I'm fascinated by the contrast between everyone's hatred for Avatar, and the box office figures
19:39 <+krisk> jup
19:39 < Goplat> "That was the worst movie ever, James Cameron has reached a new low. Hey, let's go watch it again!"
19:40 < leofox> I wanna watch it again
19:40 < leofox> I never watch movies twice
19:40 < nikky> Because you don't have movies in your country!
19:40 < nikky> HAW HAW
19:41 < leofox> ...
19:41 < leofox> we have movies
19:41 <+krisk> im worried about the 3d sucking if i dont constantly look exactly where they want me too
19:41 < leofox> krisk go to a theater that doesnt suck
19:41 < leofox> I've seen a review some guy made where he said it's shit in 3d
19:41 <+doc_who> isnt james cameron a hack?
19:41 < leofox> I obviously disagree
19:43 <+krisk> the theater here does not suck
19:43 < leofox> you probably have fancy new almere theaters
19:43 <+krisk> yesyes
19:45 < Genolo> woo my new laptop just came
19:45 < Genolo> i think i can gap to this
19:45 < Genolo> er
19:45 < Genolo> fap
19:45 <+krisk> nice which did you get
19:45 < nikky> A nice AMERICAN laptop.
19:45 < bsparks> nikky, those exist...ed?
19:46 <+krisk> ive been thinking of ordering a nice american laptop
19:47 < Genolo> i have no time to install linux today
19:47 < Genolo> i'll have to deal with windows 7
19:47 <+krisk> what laptop did you get Genolo
19:48 < bsparks> Asus EeePC 701
19:48 < Genolo> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834146613&cm_re=lenovo-_-34-146-613-_-Product
19:48 < Genolo> that
19:49 <+krisk> why that one?
19:51 < Genolo> lolwut it has a webcam
19:51 < Genolo> also speaking of bloat
19:51 < Genolo> this thing has like
19:51 < Genolo> all bloat
19:51 < Genolo> :(
19:52 <+krisk> Im thinking Acer Aspire 8930G
19:52 < Genolo> wt
19:52 < Genolo> f
19:52 < Genolo> you can login to the computer
19:52 < Genolo> through face verification
19:52 <+krisk> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4DT3tQqgRM
19:53 <+krisk> "The face tracking feature of the HP web cam will not recognize or track black faces. You have to watch this video. It is hilarious!   "
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19:59 <@efneTI92> [Tyler2] I no longer speak fluent dialup.
19:59 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Tyler2] by Remius
20:00 < Genolo> it feels really awkward to use windows
20:02 < Genolo> do i have to use that face shit
20:02 <+krisk> yes
20:02 <+krisk> thats how windows works
20:02 <+krisk> if it doesnt see your face it shuts down
20:03 < Genolo> why the hell does backup need three discs
20:03 < Genolo> just for system default
20:04 <+doc_who> Genolo, you use arch right?
20:04 < Genolo> yeah
20:05 < E-J> maybe because it's from arsch?
20:05 < Genolo> 500gb hd
20:05 < Genolo> my old one was 140
20:07 < Genolo> seriously though
20:07 < Genolo> the face recognition thing
20:07 < Genolo> is just like
20:07 <+doc_who> i just installed arch into a vm
20:07 < Genolo> "hey we should do this just to look cool even though it's useless and annoying!"
20:07 <+doc_who> because i wanted linux but didnt want to lose windows
20:07 < Genolo> partition
20:08 <+doc_who> nah
20:08 <+doc_who> i can run them at the same time now
20:08 < Genolo> i'm keeping windows on this
20:08 < Genolo> because i just paid for it
20:08 < Genolo> >_>
20:09 < Genolo> i should probably unbrick my ipod now
20:10 < bsparks> BrandonW, will OS2 be developed simultaneously for the 73, 83, 83+, and 84+ at the same time? Or will it be one calc at a time?
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20:12 <@BrandonW> Simultaneously.
20:13 <@BrandonW> It boots right now on verything.
20:13 <@BrandonW> everything.*
20:13 < bsparks> 82? :)
20:14 < bsparks> I WANNA BOOT OS2 ON MY TI-59 DAMNIT
20:14 < DrDnar> 84?
20:14 < DrDnar> 81*
20:14 < Genolo> what about glk and his 89
20:15 < Goplat> bsparks: you can't run your own OS on the 83, it uses plain ROM instead of flash
20:15 < bsparks> aww
20:15 < leofox> jesus this language has a sunbjunctivus
20:15 < leofox> I hoped to never see those again after finishing latin :(
20:19 < Genolo> does anyone know how to backup a windows os to an install disc
20:21 < leofox> you have to slipstream it
20:21 < leofox> I dont know exactly how it goes
20:23 <+jr19> slipstream is a fun word
20:23 <@BrandonW> Quantum slipstream drive!
20:24 <@BrandonW> Slipstreaming has to do with integrating service packs and updates into a Windows install disc.
20:24 <@BrandonW> If you mean back up an INSTALLATION of a Windows OS, you have to image the drive.
20:24 < sir_lewk> BrandonW: what is the current state of OS2?  any cool stuff in progress?
20:25 <@BrandonW> It's all on hold right now, this Nspire thing is my priority.
20:25 <@BrandonW> I haven't slept and I didn't go into work.
20:25 < sir_lewk> ah, ok
20:25 < sir_lewk> lol
20:26 < sir_lewk> is there something going on with the nspire in the last few days that I haven't heard of then?
20:26 <@BrandonW> This stupid Nspire is choking whenever I send the last acknowledgement packet and I just don't understand it.
20:26 <@BrandonW> No, except that I'm trying to port the exploit installer to the 84+/SE.
20:28 < Genolo> i'm going to have to rejailbreak my ipod
20:28 < Genolo> i don't even know why i bother
20:28 < Genolo> the only reason i do that is to customize the ui and no matter what you do it's still shit
20:31 < Genolo> the only app i've ever installed on my ipod was mplayer
20:31 < Genolo> because i couldn't sync on linux
20:31 < sir_lewk> well, mplayer is a lovely application
20:33 < Genolo> it's a proven fact that 99% of the iphone devs are retards
20:33 < Genolo> and the rest are greedy as fuck
20:34 < sir_lewk> that is because 99% of iphone devs are iphone users
20:34  * sir_lewk ducks
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20:35 < Genolo> honestly the iphone is a piece of shit
20:42 <+jr19> psssshhhhhh
20:45 <@BrandonW> Those morons...
20:45 <@BrandonW> They're going to sic TI on us.
20:45 <@BrandonW> http://www.unitedti.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=9211&st=0&gopid=139811&#entry139811
20:46 <+krisk> sic?
20:46 <@BrandonW> That's not the right spelling/word, but like when a dog attacks on command.
20:47 <+jr19> how is that spelled anyway?
20:47 <@BrandonW> I think it was actually originally seek.
20:47 <+jr19> maybe, it'd at least make sense
20:47 < DrDnar> They want an emulated 84+ that can access and run programs from the full 25 MB of the Nspire.
20:47 <+jr19> sic' em
20:48 <@BrandonW> They're idiots.
20:48 <@BrandonW> Pay no mind.
20:48 <@BrandonW> They're making up stuff that's going to get that forum taken down.
20:48 <@BrandonW> They have no idea what they're doing.
20:48 <@BrandonW> By starting that thread.
20:49 <@BrandonW> The only justification for modifying the OS is if it's absolutely necessary to execute our own code, and this hook we've come up with might count as that, I don't know.
20:49 <@BrandonW> I'm not bashing OS patches, believe me, I'm all for it, it just can't be defended.
20:49 <@BrandonW> Like software piracy.
20:51 <+krisk> except software piracy is legal in some countries
20:58 <@BrandonW> Not in the ones primarily using the Nspire, which is why we have to care.
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20:59 <+ports_> hey BW
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21:13 <+ports_> hi tahben
21:13 < Tahben> sup ports?
21:14 <+ports_> not much, you
21:15 <+krisk> am i the only one who thinks first aid kits are kinda useless
21:16 < Tahben> gots mah feet up for quiet time.
21:16 < Tahben> I'm...a big fan of first aid kits.
21:16 <+krisk> theres nothing in it that could help you if you actually need first aid
21:16 <+ports_> cool
21:16 < Tahben> because its where my first aid supplies are kept!
21:16 <+ports_> krisk:  wrong
21:16 <+ports_> krisk:  you're using the wrong first aid kit then
21:17 <+ports_> krisk:  there's different kinds.. office ones with just bandaids...
21:17 < Tahben> otherwise, when I needed a styptic or bandage, I'd have to open up all the cans of beans. hence the first aid kit
21:17 <+krisk> and if you just cut yourself or something it seems like such a waste to use anything of it
21:17 <+ports_> my kits in the plant have full disinfectant solution bottles.. saline bottles. hot packs, cold packs, different kinds of gauze, wraps, bandages, tape, scissors, pain relievers, and other antiseptic stuff too
21:18 <+krisk> id want one you could do battlefield surgery with
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21:18 < Barrett_F> interesting
21:18 <+krisk> so if you really fuck up you can fix it untill paramedics arrive to haul your ass to cirgury
21:18 <+ports_> you could temporarily patch/bandage a wound till someone got to the hospital with ours.
21:18 <+ports_> surgery!
21:19 <+krisk> surgery sorry wtf
21:19 < Tahben> maybe he means circurgy, whatever that means in crazytown
21:19 < leofox> Barrett_ kaltxi
21:19 <+ports_> krisk: if someone gets hurt in the plant.. its always a serious injury.. so we have the right stuff in there to temporarily treat it.
21:20 <+krisk> well yeah burns n stuff
21:20 < Barrett_F> kaltxi
21:20 < Barrett_F> ma tsumuku
21:20 <+ports_> krisk:  if you see a poor first aid kit.. its because the person didnt put the right one in.
21:20 <+krisk> of course
21:20 <+krisk> but what if you fell on a knife or something
21:20 <+ports_> krisk:  cuts.. burns.. loss of fingers/limbs... things in peoples eyes, chemical burns, ingestion of hazardous stuff..
21:20 <+krisk> whats in the kit to deal with lost limbs?
21:21 <+ports_> lots of gauze
21:21 <+krisk> hmm
21:21 <+ports_> do the best you can to stop the bleeding
21:21 < Tahben> pressure or occlusive dressings
21:21 <+krisk> morphine?
21:21 <+ports_> wrap it tight, and tape it
21:21 < Tahben> and a captive bolt gun
21:21 <+ports_> tylenol and ibuprofen only.
21:22 < Barrett_F> tourniquet
21:22 <+ports_> theres antacid and stuff in there too..
21:22 <+krisk> yeah a proper tourniquet would make sense
21:22 < Barrett_F> often found in heavy-bleeding
21:22 <+ports_> but you cant keep morphine in there..
21:22 < Barrett_F> why not?
21:22 <+ports_> Barrett_F:  people would steal it
21:22 < Barrett_F> oh, this is a public kit?
21:22 < Barrett_F> i was thinking of a personal kit
21:23 <+krisk> yeah me too
21:23 < Barrett_F> that you keep in your car or something
21:23 <+krisk> or at home
21:23 <+ports_> Barrett_F:  yes
21:23 < Tahben> or if you are me and go out loaded for bear.
21:23 < Barrett_F> well, the most important thing to have in the kit is alcohol 
21:23 <+ports_> and morphine is a controlled drug.. if you dont have a prescription for it, its illegal to have
21:23 < Barrett_F> it has many uses
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21:24 <+ports_> Barrett_F:  that or hydrogen peroxide
21:24 < Barrett_F> no, that burns the flesh
21:24 <+ports_> yeah.. you might need the base.
21:24 < Barrett_F> alcohol kills the bacteria without killing your skin/cells
21:24 <+krisk> i guess if you need immedeate surgery youre fucked anyway
21:24 < Barrett_F> not necessarily 
21:24 < Barrett_F> My father is a surgeon 
21:25 < Barrett_F> he has done some surgery outside the ER
21:25 < Barrett_F> in odd places
21:25 < Barrett_F> on a public bus, for example
21:25 <+krisk> yeah i would want basic equipment for that kind of thing in it
21:25 < Barrett_F> a basic surgery kit from the 30's would be the way to go
21:25 < Barrett_F> light, compact
21:25 < Barrett_F> durable
21:26 <+krisk> slightly primitive
21:26 < Barrett_F> however, inadequate for more than basic surgery
21:26 <+krisk> yeah
21:26 <+krisk> what do medics carry in the army n stuff?
21:27 <+krisk> not much beyond painkillers and bandages i guess
21:27 < Barrett_F> they have a scalpel
21:27 < Barrett_F> and a few other tools
21:27 < Barrett_F> that's it
21:27 < Barrett_F> no bone saw
21:27 <+ports_> alcohol can be toxic to the healthy cells too.
21:27 < Barrett_F> yes ports
21:27 < Barrett_F> but it doesn't burn the dermis
21:27 <+krisk> i guess something to properly seal bleedings would be nice
21:27 < Barrett_F> alcohol won't cause scar tissue to form on contact...
21:28 < Tahben> clamps, vise grips, duct tape.
21:28 < Tahben> if  all else fails, disconnect the heart to stop bleeding. works every time.
21:28 <+ports_> nope.. hydrogen peroxide destroys everything
21:29 < Barrett_F> "You put a tourniquet on his neck, doctor?"
21:29 <+ports_> the last time i was hurt.. i used bacitracin.
21:29 <+krisk> Barrett_F: he cut himself shaving?
21:29 <+ports_> antibacterial ointment.. it keeps things clean without damaging the healthy tissue
21:30 < Barrett_F> it's a great preventative measure
21:30 < Barrett_F> but won't get everything properly cleaned out
21:31 < Barrett_F> Otorhinolaryngologist
21:31 < Barrett_F> that's my fater
21:32 <+jr19> ear nose and throat?
21:32 < Barrett_F> yes
21:32 < Barrett_F> ENT surgeon
21:32 <+jr19> easy to piece together after i read all the parts of the word separately
21:32 < Barrett_F> and we happen to live in the perfect location for that specialty
21:32 < Barrett_F> TN
21:33 < Barrett_F> everybody either has severe allergies
21:33 <+jr19> what? where there's crappy air?
21:33 < Barrett_F> or smokes
21:33 <+jr19> SMOG
21:33 < Barrett_F> Tennessee
21:33 <+krisk> and loud music?
21:33 <+ports_> lol
21:33 < Tahben> is he really grossed out by nasty pussy earwax?
21:33 <+ports_> Barrett_F:  i  thought you were in Utah
21:33 < Barrett_F> lol, this is some other barrett
21:33 <+ports_> jr19:  hey
21:33 < Barrett_F> there are 2 in here
21:33 <+ports_> oh
21:33 <+ports_> Barrett_F:  you're an imposter
21:33 < Barrett_F> not really
21:34 < Barrett_F> that's my real name
21:34 < Barrett_F> Barrett Ford
21:34 <+ports_> no
21:34 <+ports_> imposter
21:34 <+ports_> are you related to Chris Ford?
21:34 <+krisk> "This M-17 medic bag houses our largest, most complete medic/first aid kit. It includes more than 400 items -- approximately 15 pounds of supplies -- including just about everything in our surigcal kit and trauma kit, plus key tools such as a thermometer, stethoscope, CPR mask, instant ice packs, field dressing, blood stopper kit and much more."
21:34 <+krisk> nice
21:34 < Barrett_F> i don't know a chris ford
21:34 <+ports_> Barrett_F:  liar
21:34 <+ports_> Barrett_F:  all you white people are related
21:34 <+jr19> pussy earwax?
21:34 <+jr19> wat
21:34 < Barrett_F> say what you want
21:34 < Barrett_F> lol
21:34 <+ports_> jr19:  don't ask.. hes dirty
21:35 < Barrett_F> ask leofox
21:35 <+ports_> no
21:35 < Barrett_F> he's on #na'vi with me
21:35 < Tahben> lets just say my husband is a frequent flier that the ENT
21:35 < Tahben> poor guy
21:35 <+ports_> Tahben:  you're a girl?
21:35 < Barrett_F> loller
21:35 < Tahben> lol
21:35 <+jr19> you didnt know that ports?
21:35 <+ports_> jr19:  i don't believe girls use the internet
21:35 < Tahben> he's just being silly
21:35 <+ports_> jr19:  some of those fatties on okcupid are men in drag
21:36 <+ports_> the hot ones are all hookers
21:36 <+krisk> nothing wrong with those
21:37 < Barrett_F> Support your local working women
21:37 < Barrett_F> but not that way
21:38 < Barrett_F> Ironically, I was named Barrett after some doctor I never met
21:38 < Barrett_F> and my particular branch of the Ford family comes from Buffalo NY
21:38 <+ports_> so do you say your name like the barrett that girls put in there hair?
21:38 < Barrett_F> no
21:38 < Barrett_F> Like the rifle
21:39 <+ports_> thats a barrel
21:39 < Tahben> ree-flay?
21:39 < Barrett_F> or, Bare it
21:39 < Barrett_F> Bear it
21:39 <+ports_> bare what
21:39 < Barrett_F> Barrett
21:39 < Barrett_F> that's almost how it sounds
21:39 < Barrett_F> Barrett sounds like bear it
21:39 <+ports_> Tahben:  he means like the hat... beret
21:39 <+ports_> like those hippies wear
21:39 <+krisk> hippies and french
21:39 <+jr19> lol wtf wifle
21:39 <+jr19> rifle*
21:39 < Tahben> he said rifle.
21:40 < Barrett_F> ...
21:40 <+jr19> where did that come from
21:40 < Barrett_F> Barrett 50.cal
21:40 <+jr19> thats my favorite sniper rifle in MW2
21:40 < Barrett_F> http://www.barrett.net/
21:40 <+krisk> oh lawdy
21:40 < Barrett_F> go buy one
21:40 < Barrett_F> and I love MW2
21:40 < i_c-Y> i knew i recognized that girl on the commercial on USA network. kristin adams is kristin holt
21:40 < Barrett_F> let's play some time
21:41 < Barrett_F> though, i feel the WA2000 is a better sniper rifle
21:41 < Barrett_F> the Barrett would be overkill
21:41 <+jr19> PC? 360? ps3?
21:41 <+ports_> ok
21:41 < Barrett_F> i just need to kill the guy, not blow a hole through him
21:41 < Barrett_F> 360
21:41 <+jr19> oh nevermind
21:41 < Barrett_F> aw
21:41 < Barrett_F> oh well
21:41 <+krisk> holes dont kill
21:41 < sir_lewk> *brainfloor*
21:42 < sir_lewk> it's like facepalming, but of the "I'm bored" variety >_>
21:42 <+krisk> *facedesk*?
21:42 < Barrett_F> the Barrett is an anti-material rifle
21:42 < Barrett_F> not meant for live targets
21:42 <+jr19> *facekeyboard*
21:42 <+jr19> akl;sdvnne
21:42 <+krisk> im hungry
21:42 < sir_lewk> I'm so bored my brain turned liquid and poured out of my head
21:43 <+jr19> well, the live targets will no longer be live when i headshot them
21:43 < Barrett_F> sir_lewk, put a stopper in your ear to prevent brain leak
21:45 < sir_lewk> it came out my other one :(
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21:49 < sir_lewk> nikky: that creepy woods dwelling kid from seattle is on cracked
21:49 < sir_lewk> http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-supervillain-origin-stories-ripped-straight-from-the-news
21:55 <+ports_> lol
21:55 <+ports_> i had arbys for lunch
21:56 < Tahben> LOL@U
21:56 <+ports_> chicken and swiss :)
21:56 <+jr19> me too
21:56 <+ports_> with an apple turn over
21:56 <+jr19> french dip sandwich
21:56 <+ports_> jr19:  5.01 combo?
21:57 < sir_lewk> why don't you two just admit it already
21:57 < Tahben> does the swiss at arby's really taste like swiss? or does it just taste like cheese product.
21:57 < sir_lewk> you are totally gay for each other
21:58 <+ports_> Tahben:  cheese product
21:58 <+ports_> sir_lewk:  who
21:58 < Tahben> awesome
21:58 < sir_lewk> you and jr19 ;P
21:58 <+ports_> sir_lewk:  hes gay.. im not
21:58 < Tahben> they can just f*ck the holes in the swiss cheese, they don't need each other :)
21:59 < Tahben> poor cat. just jumped up to sleep and I need to shoo her down so I can pee.
21:59 <+jr19> the swiss cheese was good
21:59 <+jr19> it was a $5.01 combo yes
22:00 <+krisk> http://images.4chan.org/g/src/1263505598794.jpg
22:01 < sir_lewk> your cat sleeps on your toliet? O.o
22:02 < sir_lewk> oh, on your lap
22:05 < Tahben> she sleeps on the toilet while I shower
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22:06 <+krisk> cats are nice
22:11 <+jr19> i like the ones that are friendly
22:11 <+jr19> but the ones that run away at the sight of anything foreign are annoying
22:11 <+krisk> haha one of my cats hides for any person that doesnt live here
22:11 < Genolo> wtf
22:12 <+krisk> even friends that ive known logner than this cat has lived
22:12 <+krisk> he'll run away and hide under a bed
22:12 < Genolo> there is definately something wrong with the usb ports on this new laptop
22:12 < Genolo> ipod can't sync from read/write error
22:12 < Genolo> my external won't mount
22:12 < Genolo> :| |:
22:13 < Barrett_F> update your USB drivers first
22:13 < incubus> krisk, lol
22:13 <+jr19> sounds like a standard pbkac error
22:14 < Barrett_F> could be card conflict
22:14 < Barrett_F> or, being exotic
22:14 < Barrett_F> there could be little aliens inside your computer
22:15 < Tahben> or very small kittens
22:16 <@BrandonW> debrouxl, you around?
22:19 <+ports_> lol
22:19 <+ports_> theres nothing wrong with my usb
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22:23 < sir_lewk> krisk: my aunt and uncle have a dog that does that
22:23 < sir_lewk> hides from people
22:23 < sir_lewk> seriously messed up
22:24 <+ports_> lol
22:24 <+ports_> ]my mac sucks
22:25 <+ports_> jr19:  todays licd is funny
22:25 < sir_lewk> your mac is a mac, get used to it
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22:27 <+jr19> 3 more minutes
22:31 < sir_lewk> normally I'd have jammed by now, but the boss that verify's my timecards isn't gone yet :S
22:32 <+jr19> you haven't been adding extra hours HAVE YOU?
22:32 < sir_lewk> NO
22:32 < sir_lewk> OF COURSE NOT
22:32 < sir_lewk> >_>
22:32 <+ports_> ahaha
22:32 <+jr19> ok i'm leaving, bbl
22:32 <+ports_> i dont love jr19 
22:33 < sir_lewk> liar
22:33 < sir_lewk> you shouldn't bottle up your true feelings like that.  it's bad for your... karma
22:34 < Tahben> can't you get that realigned in sedona with a psychic?
22:35 <+ports_> lol
22:35 < sir_lewk> no doubt
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22:37 < genolo\_> http://consumersupport.lenovo.com/en/DriversDownloads/drivers_list.aspx?CategoryID=818067
22:37 < genolo\_> which do i need
22:37 < genolo\_> usb 2.0 card reader driver?
22:37 <+ports_> i dont love jr19 
22:39 < sir_lewk>  if you keep saying it, maybe you can even make yourself believe that
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22:45 < i_c-Y> Genolo: were you using the original windows install included?
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23:05 <@efneTI92> [KermM] http://www.cemetech.net :: Leading The Way to the Future
23:06 < i_c-Y> go home KermM 
23:06 < KermM> no wai, i_c-Y
23:06 < KermM> I'm basically already home, just a few hundred feet to go :D
23:14 < E-J> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Seeing-someone-pull-of-a-ninja-move-to-stop-themselves-slipping-on-ice/217635510748
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