--- Log opened Tue Jan 12 00:00:54 2010 00:29 <+ports> lol 00:29 <+ports> !qsay 1670 00:29 <@efneTI86> 1670: nikky, I wonder if all the girls thought [ports_] was metrosexual | s/metro/homo | s/homo/a [Added netham45 at 2010/01/11 17:49] 00:30 <+ports> i hate illinois somedays 00:30 -!- geekboy is now known as geekds 00:31 -!- geekds is now known as geekboy 00:37 < DrDnar> I wonder if the government would be amused if I answered all their queries in metric base units. Especially my age. 00:37 <+ports> DrDnar, your age would be the same 00:38 < DrDnar> Yes, in the sense that the units doesn't matter. Is there reason seconds isn't a valid unit for "age"? 00:38 < DrDnar> don't* 00:39 < DrDnar> Hmm, is "units" singular or plural? 00:39 <+ports> http://www.hartnall.com/metric-birthday/ 00:41 < mokomull> DrDnar: "units" is plural. 00:41 < DrDnar> Yes, that makes sense. 00:42 <+jr19> heh 00:42 <+jr19> the text on this is ridiculously small 00:45 <+ports> like your penis 00:46 <+ports> jr19, have you seen the commercials for Army of Two? 00:47 <+jr19> yeah i have why 00:47 <+ports> it looks fun 00:47 <+ports> but you really have to play with with 2 people 00:47 <+jr19> yeah it does look cool 00:48 <+jr19> me and my ps3 kicking friend were talking about it the other night 00:48 <+ports> my friend is graduating from Pheonix University 00:48 <+ports> why do you call him your ps3 kicking friend? 00:48 <+jr19> one of my friends has a degree from phoenix 00:48 <+jr19> because he kicks ps3s with reckless abandon 00:48 <+ports> I mean.. you could just call him your friend... 00:48 <+ports> It's not like I'd mistake him for someone else.. 00:49 <+jr19> yeah cuz i only have one friend 00:49 <+ports> yeah 00:49 <+jr19> what a gigantic loser i must be 00:50 <+ports> heh 00:54 -!- DrDnar [~Ander@c-24-35-66-83.customer.broadstripe.net] has quit [Leaving.] 01:02 * Randomist notices RAM usage has not gone over three fifty all day, and has averaged two hundred. 01:03 < Randomist> I could be doing stuff with virtual machines, now. 01:04 -!- Kaeru [ba0f1c3e@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 01:05 <+Netham45> I hate logging into sites I havn't logged into for a while 01:05 <+Netham45> it's a game of guess the right e-mail/password combo 01:06 <+Genolo> xchat has been theme'd 01:07 <+Netham45> !quoteurl 01:07 <@efneTI86> http://tcpa.aardy.net/quotes/ 01:08 * Netham45 slaps aardvarq 01:11 -!- Kaeru [ba0f1c3e@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #tcpa 01:11 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Kaeru] by etaonrish 01:11 -!- Exploiter [~Sk84Life@c-67-185-40-45.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Exploiter] 01:12 <+Genolo> http://genolo.nvm2u.com/img/xchattheme.png 01:16 < Tari> http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/6559/55550776.png hah 01:17 -!- Merthsoft [~Shaun@d-69-161-78-59.cpe.metrocast.net] has joined #tcpa 01:18 <+Genolo> using irssi doesn't work so well when you're on over 70 channels 01:18 <+Genolo> :( 01:19 < Tari> that's a problem with you 01:19 < Tari> not the client 01:19 <+Genolo> well yeah 01:20 <+Genolo> so my dad said i can order that laptop tomorrow 01:20 < Jonimus> Genolo: weechat can handle it no proble 01:20 < Jonimus> problem 01:20 < Jonimus> :P 01:20 <+Genolo> after he was satisfied that that's the cheapest place to buy it and stuff 01:21 <+Genolo> woah 01:21 <+Genolo> jonimus weechat looks pretty cool 01:21 < Jonimus> Genolo: its like a Curses based xchat 01:22 <+Genolo> can you configure a lot? 01:22 < Jonimus> what do you mean? 01:22 < Jonimus> what kind of settings are you looking for? 01:22 <+Genolo> well uh 01:22 <+Genolo> does it have scripting 01:22 <+Genolo> that isn't what i was talking about but does it 01:23 < Jonimus> python, perl, tcl and I think a few other langs are supported yes 01:23 < Jonimus> the python scripting is piss easy, I've already made one or two an modified a few others 01:23 <+Genolo> oh hey there is a channel bar 01:23 <+Genolo> i mean 01:23 <+Genolo> tree 01:23 <+Genolo> thing 01:23 < Jonimus> there is one through plugins yes 01:24 < Jonimus> buffer.pl is the most xchat like 01:24 < Jonimus> but go.py would work for you also 01:25 < geekboy> back 01:25 <+Genolo> how do you run it jonimus 01:26 < i_c-Y> rm -rf / 01:26 < i_c-Y> at a root shell 01:26 < Randomist> `weechat-curses` 01:27 < Randomist> Pro-tip: If you're going to configure it via text file, you have to have it closed, first. 01:27 < Jonimus> Randomist: or run /reload before you close it 01:28 < Jonimus> /rehash* 01:28 <+Genolo> where are the config files 01:28 < Randomist> "$HOME/.weechat." 01:29 -!- Kaeru [ba0f1c3e@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 01:30 < i_c-Y> 69 days uptiem 01:30 < Jonimus> Genolo: install the weeget plugin and then you can use that to install other plugins 01:31 < i_c-Y> looks like my connection dropped 4 hours ago :/ 01:31 -!- Merthsoft [~Shaun@d-69-161-78-59.cpe.metrocast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:32 <+jr19> wtf 70 channels 01:36 <+Genolo> you can't scroll up? 01:38 <@BrandonW> For what it's worth, the Nspire's 84+SE emulator does support all 8 RAM pages. 01:39 < geekboy> cool 01:41 * sir_lewk hums "he sure bakes a mean pizza pie" to the tune of Pinball Wizard 01:42 <@nikky> what's a ram page? 01:42 -!- Kaeru [ba0f1c3e@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #tcpa 01:42 -!- blankie [~myname@d207-6-186-113.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 380 seconds] 01:42 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Kaeru] by SnowCrash 01:42 < Randomist> A range of RAM in memory that is sixteen kilobytes, I think. 01:43 < Randomist> * a range of RAM that is 01:43 < sir_lewk> a unit of ram 01:43 < Randomist> ^ 01:44 < Randomist> Actually, I'm not sure if RAM pages are sixteen kilobytes like Flash pages are. 01:44 < i_c-Y> when you take the fur of a Ram, you pass it through a papermill 01:44 < i_c-Y> and the resultant paper is called a ram sheet 01:44 < i_c-Y> one side is called a ram page. 01:44 < sir_lewk> furfag 01:45 < i_c-Y> no, a furfag would have fucked the ram instead of skinning it alive. 01:45 < sir_lewk> ah, true 01:45 < sir_lewk> hey, what is the name of that movie glk was in? 01:45 < i_c-Y> though i guess the ram sheets are the equiv . of kleenex for them. 01:45 < sir_lewk> something about waco texas 01:46 -!- blankie [~myname@d207-6-186-113.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #tcpa 01:47 < Randomist> sir_lewk: "In the Line of Duty." 01:50 < sir_lewk> ah yeah 01:50 < sir_lewk> hmm, oh well 01:50 < sir_lewk> "Waco: The Rules of Engagement" is number 3 on imdb's list of disturbing films 01:50 < chronomex> hahaha 01:50 < chronomex> pity 01:54 -!- Barrett__ [~Barrett@75-165-235-142.slkc.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:01 -!- Merthsoft [~Shaun@d-69-161-78-59.cpe.metrocast.net] has joined #tcpa 02:03 < sir_lewk> sweet, found a torrent of Funny Games U.S. 02:22 -!- Kaeru [ba0f1c3e@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 02:23 -!- Kyurel [~kyure11@75-105-108-35.cust.wildblue.net] has joined #tcpa 02:26 < i_c-Y> so, whose going to start watching faux news since sarah palin is their neweest commentator? 02:28 < Kyurel> XD 02:36 -!- JoelS [~JSeligste@out1-1601fw.corp.tfbnw.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:43 < sir_lewk> .......wat 02:43 < sir_lewk> you best be kidding me 02:43 <+jr19> nawwwww mang 02:43 <+jr19> itz fo realz 02:44 < sir_lewk> when am I going to be able to see the end of that cunt 02:45 <+jr19> you know what you have to do 02:45 < sir_lewk> very well 02:46 < sir_lewk> I'll need 5 pounds of semtex and a hot air ballon 02:46 <+jr19> nobody ever suspects the hot air balloon 02:46 < sir_lewk> also a cage full of rabid weasels, for good measure 03:02 < i_c-Y> http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/01/11/palin-join-fox-news-contributor/?test=faces 03:05 <+jr19> test faces? 03:16 < Randomist> Testing complete. Result: FAIL. 03:17 -!- boscop [~boscop@f055070153.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Gxis revido!] 03:18 < sir_lewk> test feces 03:18 < Kyurel> return 03:19 < Andy_J> enter 03:19 < Kyurel> ^ω^ 03:19 < Kyurel> ಠ_ಠ 03:19 < sir_lewk> I want to click it, but if I do that I will be counted in their web statistics, which they will no doubt use to show that palin is popular 03:19 < Kyurel> ◔ ◡ ◔ 03:19 < sir_lewk> best to ignore the bitch right? 03:19 < Andy_J> curious that two names for the same key (more or less) have completely opposite meanings otherwise 03:19 < Kyurel> ◕ ◡ ◕ 03:19 < Andy_J> !k Kyurel 03:19 < j-b-r> ㅎ_ㅎ 03:19 -!- Kyurel was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [ajanata] 03:19 -!- Kyurel [~kyure11@75-105-108-35.cust.wildblue.net] has joined #tcpa 03:19 < j-b-r> Crap, don't kick me too 03:20 < Randomist> I wonder if it would hurt to call MPC once a second. 03:20 <@nikky> Hi Andy_J! 03:24 < chronomex> !k nikky colours 03:24 -!- chronomex was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [Yeah, like that was ever going to happen :P] 03:24 -!- chronomex [chronomex@216.127.61.186] has joined #tcpa 03:24 < Kyurel> well, there goes the disruption. 03:24 < chronomex> fuckxxx 03:24 < Randomist> Pwn't. 03:24 < Randomist> Nikky is invincible. 03:28 < chronomex> clearly 03:28 -!- mode/#tcpa [+o chronomex] by efneTI86 03:28 -!- nikky was kicked from #tcpa by nikky [nikky] 03:28 < Kyurel> well, there goes the disruption. 03:28 < Randomist> I smell a script in Kyurel's direction. 03:28 < Andy_J> that wasn't colors, that was inverse video] 03:28 < Andy_J> there is a difference! 03:28 -!- nikky [~nikky@dante01.u.washington.edu] has joined #tcpa 03:28 < nikky> wewt 03:28 -!- mode/#tcpa [+o Andy_J] by efneTI86 03:28 < nikky> i is r bck 03:28 < Randomist> Andy_J: It still makes your text stand out, which is not allowed on IRC, apparently. :P 03:28 < nikky> Actually, inverse text is now allowed for ops 03:28 < nikky> to use in case of emergency 03:28 <@Andy_J> EMERGENCY! 03:28 < nikky> As om 03:28 < nikky> yes 03:28 < nikky> or something 03:28 <+Genolo> how does one inverse in xchat 03:28 <+Genolo> xchat sucks at codes you can't even control+u 03:28 < Randomist> One seeks the Google. 03:28 <@Andy_J> one doesn't use xchat 03:28 < Randomist> That, too. 03:28 <@Andy_J> and the problem is solved 03:28 <+Genolo> i'm going to use something else when i order a new laptop 03:28 <+Genolo> ordering it tomorrow 03:28 <+Genolo> according to my father at least 03:28 <@Andy_J> why wait to stop the suckage?! 03:28 < nikky> ^ 03:28 < nikky> use mIRC! 03:29 < Kyurel> YES 03:29 <+Genolo> and at the same time let's use explorer.exe! 03:29 < Randomist> Well, Wine does have.. 03:29 <@Andy_J> you mean you don't use explorer as your shell? 03:29 < nikky> Wine sucks 03:29 < Randomist> MC for the win. 03:29 <@Andy_J> I've yet to seen a replacement shell for windows that doesn't suck ass 03:29 < Randomist> (Actually, Z Shell for the win.) 03:30 <+Genolo> i feel compelled to version the channel to see what everyone is using 03:30 Genolo [~catsidhe@nykida.net] requested CTCP VERSION from #tcpa: 03:31 <+Genolo> mostly irssi 03:31 * Andy_J sets mode: +SC oh wait a minute efnet doesn't use unrealircd 03:31 <@Andy_J> I'm actually surprised by that 03:31 < nikky> I'm not 03:31 < nikky> this is the firefly of IRseas 03:31 < nikky> WE DO WHAT WE WANT 03:31 < nikky> YOU CAN'T CHAIN US DOWN 03:32 < Randomist> Thanks for reminding me. Capitalization filter. 03:34 <+Genolo> a surprising amount of people here are on vista apparently 03:35 <+Genolo> but they're mostly people who don't talk 03:35 <+Genolo> and netham 03:35 <+Genolo> so it doesn't matter 03:35 < Randomist> Four Mac users, five or six Linux users, everyone else, Windows. 03:35 < Randomist> That's a guess out of "Randomist@/dev/urandom." 03:36 < Randomist> * root@Randomist:/dev/urandom 03:37 * j-b-r raises his hand for vista 03:37 <+Genolo> i don't remember vista much 03:37 <+Genolo> it came with this laptop 03:37 <+Genolo> i don't remember it be too bad 03:37 < j-b-r> Five or six linux users, LOLOLOL 03:37 <+rcfreak0> win 7 here 03:37 < j-b-r> I feel sorry for them; Maybe I'll switch just for that 03:38 < j-b-r> No, when I build a new desktop, I'll like, quadruple-boot or something 03:38 <+Genolo> mac-windows98-windows7-some linux distro 03:38 < Randomist> [Hippie-like:] Virtualization is the future, man! 03:38 <+Genolo> windows 98 is the shit 03:38 < sir_lewk> I did not know you could version a channel 03:39 -!- waeyn [~wayne@ool-ad03ce08.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:39 < Randomist> sir_lewk: Unfortunately, yes. 03:39 < j-b-r> No, Win 2000, Win 7, Debian or maybe Arch, and ???? 03:39 < sir_lewk> a version of me will show ubuntu I guess, but I actually use fedora 03:39 <+Genolo> -sir_lewk- VERSION irssi v0.8.14 - running on Linux x86_64 03:40 < j-b-r> What's another thing that isn't windows, mac, or debian, that doesn't suck? 03:40 < j-b-r> And not package-based linux 03:40 < j-b-r> Err... source based 03:40 < j-b-r> Err, not gentoo 03:40 < j-b-r> That's all I really mean 03:40 < sir_lewk> haiku 03:40 < j-b-r> ? 03:40 < sir_lewk> clone of BeOS 03:41 <@Andy_J> freebsd 03:41 < j-b-r> Maybe quadbooting is going overboard 03:41 < sir_lewk> probably 03:41 < sir_lewk> just virtualize some of that stuff 03:41 < mokomull> j-b-r: eComStation 03:41 <@Andy_J> j-b-r: pffft, my tower technically can quad boot 03:41 <@Andy_J> I never boot anything but 7RC on it, but it has xp, vista, and osx86 on it 03:42 <@Andy_J> in fact it has been up for 30.5 days ... 03:42 < mokomull> 7RC!? 03:42 < j-b-r> Hackintosh would make me feel dirty 03:42 < i_c-Y> my tower has been up for 70 days. 03:42 < Randomist> Been there, tried that. 03:42 <@Andy_J> mokomull: I'm waiting until I get a new computer to buy 7. 03:42 < Randomist> No Intel Mobile 4 support. 03:42 <@Andy_J> This one is 4 years old, a full 7 license for it would be a waste 03:42 < j-b-r> Actually, having two versions of windows on there is probably silly anyway 03:42 < mokomull> Andy_J: You don't have it through MSDNAA or any variant thereof? 03:42 < i_c-Y> he isn't cool 03:42 <@Andy_J> mokomull: considering I haven't been a student for a year and a half ... no 03:42 < i_c-Y> he aint in school 03:43 <@Andy_J> not that we had that anyway 03:43 <@BrandonW> Who pays for operating systems anymore? 03:43 < mokomull> Hey, you might have another MSDN account too 03:43 <@Andy_J> we don't have it at work either :) 03:43 <@chronomex> BrandonW: good question ... how much are you charging for OS2? 03:43 <@BrandonW> $39.95 + S&H 03:44 < mokomull> Andy_J: Either way, I thought retail boxes were transferable licenses... 03:44 <+Genolo> start selling calcs on ebay with it pre-installed 03:44 * Genolo hides 03:44 <@chronomex> does the 83-series know how to handle paid OS updates? 03:44 <@Andy_J> But wait! You can get two for the price of one, just pay seperate processing and shipping! 03:44 <@chronomex> more importantly, can we create them? 03:44 <@BrandonW> Sure, we just duplicate what they did for paid apps. 03:44 <@Andy_J> mokomull: eh, not worth the bother. I intend to build a new box in a month or two anyway 03:44 <@chronomex> ok coolz 03:44 <@BrandonW> I just require that you kill your calculator public key and replace it with a key only I have the private key for. 03:45 <@Andy_J> And it already has a full vista ultimate license on it 03:45 <@Andy_J> which I did get at school 03:45 <@Andy_J> the day before I graduated 03:45 < mokomull> Meh. I haven't booted Windows directly on a machine at home in ... well, probably about 3 years 03:45 <@Andy_J> it's my gaming/windows dev box so yeah :) 03:46 < mokomull> Windows dev has no reason to exist ;) 03:46 <@Andy_J> sure it does, C#! 03:46 < mokomull> I can run c#! 03:46 * Randomist cringes. 03:46 <@Andy_J> not with winforms stuff, legally :p 03:46 <@Andy_J> * 03:46 <@Andy_J> anyway 03:46 <@BrandonW> I hate this damn DVR... 03:46 <+Tyler2> I'm more in favor for cross platform languages 03:47 <@Andy_J> bed time, I have to be at work at 7 (hour and a half early) tomorrow 03:47 <@BrandonW> I am so tempted to go buy a CableCARD tuner right now and forget the Ceton card. 03:47 < mokomull> Is WinForms actually bound by a license, or simply patent trolling? 03:47 < Randomist> "All ur pr0gs are belong to us!" 03:47 <@BrandonW> I need my Heroes fix tonight. 03:47 <@BrandonW> Suggestions? 03:47 < Randomist> BitTorrent? 03:47 <@BrandonW> It's not up yet. 03:47 < Randomist> _Digital? 03:47 < Randomist> Ah. 03:47 <@BrandonW> At least not on public sites. 03:47 < mokomull> Bittorrent. 03:47 <@Andy_J> mokomull: well it isn't part of the ECMA specification of the language/.NET 03:47 <@Andy_J> so regardless it isn't "protected" 03:48 < mokomull> Meh. 03:48 <@BrandonW> _Digital: do you have Heroes? I must watch tonight. 03:48 <@Andy_J> that having been said I did run a very simple winforms app on my PPC mac in mono a few months ago 03:48 <@Andy_J> my jaw dropped. 03:48 <@Andy_J> and my brain as'ploded 03:48 < Randomist> Is it bad that I can't remember the last time I sat down and watched television? :P 03:49 < Randomist> [Cable televesion] 03:49 < Randomist> * i 03:49 < mokomull> Andy_J: Eh, MonoForms is fairly complete, I think. A bit buggy, but mostly complete. 03:49 <@Andy_J> http://static.socialgamer.net/~ajanata/pics/mono_ppc_osx.png 03:50 < nikky> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH OS X 03:50 <@Andy_J> I never thought I'd be able to write and compile something in Visual Studio and have it run with no fuss on a Mac. 03:50 <@Andy_J> A PowerPC Mac, at that. 03:50 <@Andy_J> anyway yeah bed time 03:50 * Andy_J & 03:51 -!- Barrett [~Barrett@75-165-229-153.slkc.qwest.net] has joined #tcpa 03:54 < Spengo> Andy_J, actually it almost looks like the person in question was practicing developing a gui 03:54 < Spengo> checkBox1 button1 03:55 < Spengo> and a dialog to show the box is checked 03:55 < Randomist> Check. Checkbox. Checkbox one-two, one-two. 03:56 < i_c-Y> lolmac 03:57 <@BrandonW> I hate Kllrnohj so much. 03:57 <@BrandonW> I would like to stab him in person. Really. 03:57 < i_c-Y> i'd like to stab a lot of people in person. 03:58 < i_c-Y> :) 03:58 < Randomist> ¿Comó el? 03:58 <@BrandonW> http://www.cemetech.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=92222#92222 03:58 < i_c-Y> !k Randomist terrorist speak 03:58 -!- Randomist was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [i_c-Y: terrorist speak] 03:58 < Kyurel> well, there goes the disruption. 03:58 -!- Randomist [~Randomist@75.111.209.80] has joined #tcpa 03:58 <+Genolo> kyurel what are you talking about 03:58 <+Genolo> it it on every kick or something 03:58 <+Genolo> shit i need someone to test it on 03:58 <@BrandonW> Say what? 03:58 <@BrandonW> Was there a question in there? 03:59 -!- Tribal [~Tribal@pa-76-2-65-215.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has quit [Leaving] 03:59 <@BrandonW> I think there might even be two. 03:59 < Randomist> i_c-Y: Wait, I didn't say [imitates Arabic speech]. :P 03:59 * Randomist ducks. 04:00 < i_c-Y> hey, not all terrorists speak arabic 04:00 <@BrandonW> Yeah, look at Nikky. 04:01 < i_c-Y> for example, the french were responsible for the first terrorist attack on modern new zealand. 04:01 < i_c-Y> and its the fuckin french. 04:01 < i_c-Y> their standard move is to wave a white flag 04:02 <@BrandonW> You know, the French have been known to do more than just surrender. 04:03 < Randomist> Scream, "JUST FUCKIN' STOP!!!"? 04:05 < i_c-Y> ha ha 04:05 <@BrandonW> And... 04:05 <@BrandonW> Well, yes. 04:05 < i_c-Y> pollute the gene pool? 04:14 -!- Barrett [~Barrett@75-165-229-153.slkc.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 04:15 -!- Randomist [~Randomist@75.111.209.80] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:17 -!- Buckeye [~Poweruser@c-24-16-240-132.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 04:24 < bsparks> BrandonW, what's new? 04:24 <@BrandonW> Stealing from TVTorrents for tonights' Heroes that my DVR screwed up. 04:25 < bsparks> Fun time 04:25 <@chronomex> that's hardly stealing 04:25 <@BrandonW> It is when I don't have an account. 04:26 <@BrandonW> Maybe "leeching" is more appropriate. 04:26 < bsparks> I actually meant what's new in the calc realm :p 04:26 <@BrandonW> I'm making minor updates to existing programs. 04:26 <@chronomex> ah I suppose 04:26 <@BrandonW> Stuff I've always meant to do but never did. 04:27 < bsparks> Ah, cool. Any news on the bootloader mystery? 04:27 <@BrandonW> Get usb8x and msd8x to stable public versions, etc. 04:27 <@BrandonW> The difference between 73 1.3004 and 1.3005 is small, and based on the dumps I have right now, they're consistent about version numbers for a specific model. 04:28 <@BrandonW> It's going to take quite some time to find the differences with the others. 04:28 < bsparks> mm, cool 04:28 <@BrandonW> So... 04:28 <@BrandonW> For the TI-73/Explorer, there are versions 1.3004 (identifies itself as 1.00), 1.3005 (identifies itself as 1.00), and 1.3007 (identifies itself as 1.02). 04:28 <@BrandonW> I think the 1.3005/1.3007 differences will be interesting. 04:29 <@BrandonW> For the 83+, it's 1.00 and 1.01. 04:29 < bsparks> I wonder if there was ever a 1.3006 04:29 <@BrandonW> For the 83+SE, it's only 1.00. 04:29 <@BrandonW> For the 84+, it appears to only be 1.02. 04:29 <@BrandonW> For the 84+SE, it's 1.00 and 1.02. 04:29 <@BrandonW> Which really implies there's an 84+ 1.00 somewhere. 04:29 < bsparks> that does 04:30 <@BrandonW> And an 83+SE 1.01. 04:30 <@BrandonW> I've never seen 1.01 on the 84+/SEs. 04:32 < bsparks> I'd imagine there is 1.01 on the 83+SE and 84+/SE, I also am kinda curious as to why the numbered the 73/Explorer the way they did, and if there was ever a 1.3006 04:32 <@BrandonW> I call stupidity on the 73/Explorer. We have to keep in mind that was the earliest revision of the hardware, and some of the wackiest and stupidest things would be on that model. 04:33 <@BrandonW> 1996/1997. 04:33 < bsparks> True 04:33 <@BrandonW> We know 1.3004 and 1.3005 are very similar, and they didn't change their identifier (stayed 1.00). 04:33 <@BrandonW> So I think 1.3005->1.3007 was significant. 04:34 < bsparks> Now, here's a question. 04:34 < bsparks> When you say 'reports as' or something, this is the OS giving you the number, right? 04:34 <+ports> bsparks, do you like my porsche? 04:35 < bsparks> BrandonW, by that I mean, if you load an aincent OS on there, if you found it, could you get it to actually report at 1.3004/5/7? 04:35 <@BrandonW> If the 73 actually had a self-test menu, it would show 1.300x. There's a boot code BCALL called _getBootVer, which tells you the verison of the boot code, A=major version and B=minor version. "3007" doesn't fit in an 8-bit register, so they're forced to return something smaller, like 01 and 00 or 02. 04:35 < bsparks> Ah, okay 04:35 <@BrandonW> I have OS 1.3004 (the next step up was 1.40, and they followed the 1.x0 pattern from there (for the most part)). 04:35 <@BrandonW> I think I'm the only person with 1.3004. 04:36 <@BrandonW> It doesn't have built-in assembly support, unlike 1.40+. 04:36 -!- Randomist [~Randomist@75.111.209.80] has joined #tcpa 04:36 <@efneTI92> [Randomist] CAUTION: Exposure to this user may cause neurological damage. 04:36 < bsparks> So 1.3004 is from the late 90's you'd say? 04:36 <@BrandonW> Yes. I bought the 73 from tifreak and dumped it through some god-awful boot code exploit. 04:36 <@BrandonW> (since it couldn't run Mallard or any assembly) 04:36 < bsparks> Nice 04:37 <@BrandonW> Thank goodness he never updates anything. 04:37 < bsparks> Randomist, for the record, the french wouldn't shout "JUST FUCKIN STOP" 04:37 < bsparks> Indeed, he tends to be against updates 04:37 < bsparks> to be honest, the only update I did on my 83+'s was the one that got rid of the cap on the programs in the program menu 04:37 <@BrandonW> It's occurring to me that I can finally sign all these old OSes, like 1.3004. 04:38 < bsparks> Oh? 04:38 <@BrandonW> Since we have the signing keys, yes. 04:38 < bsparks> What good would that do us though? 04:38 <@BrandonW> We can make OS upgrades out of OSes that only came pre-installed. 04:38 <@BrandonW> Which means you, me, anybody can downgrade to it. 04:38 < bsparks> Nice 04:39 < bsparks> if I had a working 83+ or 73 I'd totally do that! 04:39 <@BrandonW> I've been tempted to create the reverse of Chameleon, which would let you put the 73 OS on an 83+. 04:39 <@BrandonW> But it's...useless. 04:39 < Randomist> bsparks: 'Couse not. They'd say it in French. :P 04:40 < bsparks> Randomist, I am pointing out that Kevin_O is canadian, so you can apply all his stereotypes to canadia ;P 04:40 < bsparks> BrandonW, not necessaraly. 04:40 < bsparks> It's nifty 04:40 <@BrandonW> Yeah, but it's an insane amount of work for an OS nobody cares about. 04:40 <@BrandonW> Which is a shame, because it has some sweet stuff in it. 04:40 <@BrandonW> Like an interrupt hook. 04:40 <@BrandonW> 86-style. 04:40 < bsparks> So it's not entirely useless 04:42 < bsparks> but what do I know 04:42 <@BrandonW> If I was really motivated enough to do it, I'd more than likely rework Chameleon to be flexible enough to go both ways. 04:43 < bsparks> Probably the best option 04:43 <@BrandonW> And I'm not sure I even want to try to get my head around that. 04:43 < bsparks> I have always wondered how chameleon worked 04:43 <@BrandonW> Have I ever ranted about what Chameleon is actually doing? 04:43 <@BrandonW> Pull up a chair and something to eat... 04:43 <@BrandonW> Let me get the source pulled up. 04:43 < bsparks> Can I run and get something to drink first? 04:44 <@BrandonW> I think I'm going to do that too. 04:44 * chronomex prepares 04:44 <@BrandonW> I plan to put this in the book, too. 04:44 * _Auron_ is uploading the video that he snipped from Dr Who of The Master 04:44 <@chronomex> ... book? 04:44 <@BrandonW> I'm writing a book on the 83+ series. 04:44 <@chronomex> awesome 04:44 < bsparks> Ok, well, I am ready :) 04:44 < Randomist> I like how a hundred percent of my CPU is being used by compilre, but the total percentages are, like, fifty percent. 04:45 <@chronomex> will there be a story or will it just be like a database dump? 04:45 * Netham45 awaits a BrandonW story. 04:45 < Randomist> I also like how it will tell me CPU is using five or ten percent, but MPD is using up fifty percent of the processor. 04:45 < Randomist> * is at five 04:46 < bsparks> Randomist, shut up, story time 04:46 <@chronomex> lol 04:46 <@BrandonW> It's like a story. 04:46 <@BrandonW> A database dump isn't fun to read. 04:46 <@_Auron_> http://darkauron.dyshost.com/Files/Video/The_Master.avi 04:46 <@chronomex> awesome 04:46 < bsparks> I'm still planning on buying $100 worth of BrandonW's book 04:46 < bsparks> And I'm gonna donate a couple of extra copies [ ontop of the $100 ] to my local library :) 04:47 <@BrandonW> So the 73 and 83+ are almost identical, barring a couple of hardware differences, except for one huge thing. 04:47 <@BrandonW> And that's the fact that they use completely different RAM equates. 04:47 <@BrandonW> What curRow equates to on the 73 isn't even close to the 83+'s. 04:47 <@BrandonW> And so on. 04:48 <@BrandonW> That's a problem for all the boot code routines. 04:48 <@BrandonW> Since those can't be modified. 04:48 <@BrandonW> So any time the OS calls a boot code BCALL, it's going to end up modifying the wrong parts of RAM. 04:48 <@BrandonW> And fuck it up and crash it. 04:48 <@BrandonW> So while you CAN modify the 83+ OS a little bit and transfer it to a 73, it's going to be horribly unstable. 04:48 <@BrandonW> And people did exactly that many many years ago. 04:48 < bsparks> Sounds like it. 04:49 <@BrandonW> But then they put the 73 OS back on ten minutes later because of how useless it is. 04:49 <@BrandonW> So the only way to get around this is to patch the 83+ OS VERY VERY VERY heavily to not use the boot code. 04:49 -!- Randomist [~Randomist@75.111.209.80] has quit [Client Quit] 04:50 <@BrandonW> Since it's just about impossible to hunt down all the instances of where it calls boot code routines, Chameleon modifies only one place in the OS: the BCALL routine. 04:50 <@BrandonW> It modifies it to look at another jump table within the OS instead of the one on the boot page. 04:50 <@BrandonW> (For boot code BCALLs) 04:51 <@BrandonW> So... 04:51 <@BrandonW> Chameleon has to scan for an empty spot in the OS large enough to hold this jump table, and store it. 04:51 <@BrandonW> As well as the boot code replacement routines. 04:51 <@BrandonW> And store the address of each one in that jump table, AND find an empty place in the OS to store the routine itself. 04:51 < bsparks> is the TI OS so sloppy you can really do that? 04:51 <@BrandonW> And that's a real bitch to code. 04:51 <@BrandonW> They're pretty consistent about leaving empty Flash free on each page. 04:52 < bsparks> Al, okok. 04:52 <+Netham45> Has there been a released signed Chameleon-ized OS? 04:53 <@BrandonW> That's illegal, which is why I wrote Chameleon, so you can run a batch file and do it yourself (instead of me releasing 73Us with the 83+ OS in them). 04:53 <+Netham45> or, I should say, does Chameleon sign the OS? 04:53 <@BrandonW> I just updated Chameleon so that it now signs the OS. 04:53 <+Netham45> Nifty. 04:53 <@BrandonW> So what Chameleon does is let you put all the boot code replacement routines (which you write yourself) into a code file, and it assembles it and embeds it in a 73U file. 04:54 <@BrandonW> So all I have to do is write the replacement routine (once I find one I need to replace), run the batch file, and transfer the 73U to my 73. 04:54 <@BrandonW> So what it really is, is a development environment to slowly replace the boot code. 04:54 <@BrandonW> So it has to do all this crap in stages. 04:55 <@BrandonW> That was four "So"s... 04:55 <+ports> is it possible to go from VGA/headphone jack to HDMI? 04:55 <+Netham45> Would it be possible to take a ROM Dump off of an 83+(getting the bootcode for it) and use that code with chameleon? 04:55 <@BrandonW> Not directly. 04:55 <+Netham45> With a converter 04:55 <@BrandonW> You'd need a lot of circuitry. 04:55 <+Netham45> There are VGA -> DVI, I don't know about the audio part. 04:55 < bsparks> HEY 04:55 <+ports> so then this cable from buy.com is useless 04:55 < bsparks> I thought it was story time :( 04:56 * chronomex gathers round 04:56 <+Netham45> ports, yes. 04:56 <+Genolo> shit 04:56 <+ports> http://www.buy.com/prod/5ft-hdmi-hdtv-to-vga-3-rca-converter-adapter-cable-1080p/q/loc/101/213271863.html 04:56 <+Genolo> i have this math project i have no fucking clue how to do 04:56 <@BrandonW> So what you have to do is supply an 83+ OS upgrade file, a dump of your 73's boot code, and the replacement code file, and it mashes all that together to spit out a 73U OS upgrade file. 04:56 <+Genolo> and i already have a 65 in this class 04:56 <+Genolo> so if i do bad on this i'm fucked 04:56 <+Genolo> because the semester is nearly over 04:57 < bsparks> BrandonW, that will be stable on the 73, but have the features of the 83+OS? 04:57 <@BrandonW> Correct. 04:57 <@BrandonW> So it effectively turns your 73 into an 83+ 04:57 < bsparks> And things like MirageOS will work still? 04:57 <@BrandonW> Yes, exactly. 04:57 < Merthsoft> bitchin' 04:57 <+Genolo> i need options 04:57 < bsparks> I feel like there is a "but" in here somewhere 04:57 <@BrandonW> Now, anything that directly accesses the boot page to call code on it (like stuff I write :( ) will still fall over and die. 04:58 < bsparks> THERE it is :) 04:58 <@BrandonW> Take for example the universal unlock exploit, which exploits a problem in both the OS and the boot code. 04:58 <+Netham45> bsparks, I think the major BUT is that you'd need to supply your own replacement code file 04:58 <@BrandonW> Because the 73's routine uses the stack a little differently, it craps out. 04:58 <@BrandonW> AT least, it used to. 04:58 <@BrandonW> I found that a long time ago and changed the universal exploit to account for it. 04:58 <+ports> hrmm this sucks 04:59 <@BrandonW> But it's stuff like that which would be a problem. 04:59 <+Netham45> Did emu8x do 73? 04:59 <+ports> i just tried out that cable on my tv/laptop it didnt work 04:59 <@BrandonW> Also, one of the hardware differences was that bit 1 of port 2 was low on the 73 (but high on the 83+), and the 83+SE uses it as an LCD status bit. 04:59 <@BrandonW> So games using that will hang because they will expect that bit to be high, except it won't be. 04:59 < bsparks> Ah, that might get tricky 04:59 <@BrandonW> But I don't THINK that works on the original 83+. 04:59 <@BrandonW> So I don't think it's a problem. 05:00 <@BrandonW> Emu8x didn't do the 73, no. 05:00 <@chronomex> not a problem in your view at least :) 05:00 <+Netham45> 73 has the same ram/rom as 83+? 05:00 <@BrandonW> Identical. 05:00 <+Netham45> You could start a business of selling broken 83+'s, with 83+'d 73s 05:00 <@BrandonW> Yes. :) 05:00 <@BrandonW> And an 83+ified 73 is actually BETTER than a real 83+. 05:00 < bsparks> Oh? 05:00 <@BrandonW> Because the 73 has NO RAM execution protection. 05:00 <@BrandonW> So NO 8KB limit. 05:01 < bsparks> So something like tr1p1ea's RPG epic, would be better on a 83+ified 73, than on an actual 83+? 05:01 <@BrandonW> If he took the time to design it that way, yes. 05:02 <@BrandonW> My head is hurting just looking at the Chameleon code...it builds an XML file of patch addresses in one stage and then uses that file later to do the patching and embedding. 05:02 <@BrandonW> It's amazing that this even works. 05:02 -!- Randomist [~Randomist@75.111.209.80] has joined #tcpa 05:02 <@efneTI92> [Randomist] CAUTION: Exposure to this user may cause neurological damage. 05:03 <+Netham45> I kinda want to try it in an emulator just to try it in an emulator 05:03 * Randomist cheers: "ath5k" has been fixed. 05:03 < bsparks> BrandonW, no, it's amazing that the TI-OS works. 05:03 <@BrandonW> It assembles the replacement code file once to get the size of the data to embed, then assembles it again later with the right starting address and embeds it... 05:03 < bsparks> It's impressive 05:04 < Randomist> Fixed just in time for school, too. :P 05:04 <@BrandonW> Then once you actually do get the 83+ OS on there, you have to run another program which writes the correct OS header (because the boot code will write a 73 one, because it thinks it received a 73 OS). 05:04 <@BrandonW> And other stuff... 05:04 <@BrandonW> As well as write a dummy 83+ certificate so Flash apps work. 05:05 < bsparks> So in other words, it's a hack to get it to work, because it SHOULD work. 05:07 < bsparks> I'm also curious as to how emu8x [ the one that lets you run an 86os on the 83/4+/SE right? ] 05:07 <@BrandonW> Yes. 05:07 <@BrandonW> That thing is insane. 05:07 <@BrandonW> A z80 emulator on a z80. 05:07 < bsparks> I never got the gusto to use it 05:07 <@BrandonW> Only Michael Vincent has the mind to invent something like that. 05:08 -!- KermM [~KermM@cpe-74-66-230-83.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa 05:08 <@efneTI92> [KermM] http://www.cemetech.net :: Leading The Way to the Future 05:08 <@BrandonW> I should probably do some studying of its source. 05:08 <@BrandonW> For the book. 05:08 < bsparks> You should 05:08 <+Genolo> holy crap 05:08 <+Genolo> i just took a picture of the worksheets 05:09 <+Genolo> to get help from someone 05:09 <+Genolo> and they practically look like they were scanned 05:09 < bsparks> I still never got why we have a z80 emulator on a z80, but not a decent z80 emulator on the 68k. [ I UNDERSTAND why, I just don't get it ] 05:09 <@chronomex> maybe it's time for me to brush up on my 68k asm skills? 05:09 <@BrandonW> Because the 68k community is nowhere near what the z80 one is. 05:09 <@chronomex> I wonder how fast it could go. 05:09 <@BrandonW> We could have some truly amazing stuff on the 68ks. 05:09 < bsparks> I saw a demo once, that was much slower than the 83+ chronomex 05:09 <@BrandonW> If *cough* chronomex *cough* here would get on usb9x... 05:09 <@chronomex> stfu 05:10 <@chronomex> I have a life 05:10 < bsparks> if chronomex got on a z80 emu for 68k, and usb9x, I'd buy an 89TE again 05:10 <@BrandonW> So do...I... 05:10 <@chronomex> and right now I'm working on patching the linux isdn protocol stack to work with north american isdn ... 05:10 <+Netham45> I'd use my 89 05:10 <+Netham45> ... why? 05:10 < Randomist> Chronomex could single-handedly improve the economy. 05:10 <@chronomex> which is my top priority because every month I can't use my isdn line I'm paying money anyway 05:10 <+Netham45> people still use ISDN? 05:10 <@chronomex> yup 05:10 <@chronomex> radio stations and hackers mostly 05:10 <@BrandonW> No one will take the time to look into direct USB on the 89Ti or anything. 05:10 <+Netham45> right 05:11 <+Netham45> BrandonW, you have the most knowledge of USB here 05:11 < Randomist> All it takes People are too lazy, nowadays. 05:11 <@BrandonW> I offered to help with USB documentation. 05:11 <@BrandonW> I just can't do the 68k-specific stuff. 05:11 <@chronomex> 89 usb is about the same as 84+ (stop right there, model number pedant) usb 05:11 <@chronomex> Randomist: no, there are just fewer 68k people than z80 people 05:12 <+Netham45> What is there good for the 89s? 05:12 <+Netham45> I remembered I had one a couple days ago and dug it up 05:12 < Randomist> Mario68k? Doom89? 05:12 < bsparks> F-Zero 05:12 <+Genolo> i want to buy a 68k 05:12 < Randomist> Xkcd combined with Super Smash Brothers,. 05:12 <@BrandonW> There are a lot of good games and that sort of thing, but we need to see some real in-depth OS research. 05:12 <+Netham45> what non-game is good for the 89s? 05:12 < Randomist> Can't remember the name of that one. 05:12 <@BrandonW> Which is what we need for direct USB and all. 05:13 <@chronomex> at least you can load the whole os into one IDA PRO instance ... 05:14 <+Netham45> are there any interesting gameboy emulators or anything for the 89s? 05:14 < Randomist> I think there's one that has sound. 05:14 < bsparks> There is an old gameboy emulator for the 89 05:14 < i_c-Y> ive used gb68k i believe it was called 05:14 < bsparks> it was nice, crashed more than I cared for 05:14 <@BrandonW> Yeah chronomex, since you have it all laid out for you, where's our direct USB? 05:14 < i_c-Y> that was like 4 years ago though 05:14 < i_c-Y> worked well 05:14 <@chronomex> WHAT WHAT WHAT DO YOU WANT 05:14 <@chronomex> I dont' know shit about how USB works 05:14 <@BrandonW> You do too, you just said it's the same. 05:15 <@chronomex> no, I mean the actual protocols 05:15 <@chronomex> and how to code against the "api" that we have 05:15 < i_c-Y> chronomex doesn't care about calculators 05:15 < i_c-Y> anymore 05:15 <@BrandonW> You don't need to know, you can mimic the low-level usb8x routines. 05:15 <@chronomex> i_c-Y: neither do you. 05:15 <@BrandonW> Let others write the real drivers. 05:15 < bsparks> To be honest, I don't care about calculators 05:15 < bsparks> I care about handheld z80 computers 05:15 < Randomist> Dump it all in a GIT/SVN/Darcs/whatever repository. 05:16 <+Netham45> Visual SourceSafe! 05:16 <@BrandonW> Don't make me kick you, Netham. 05:16 * Netham45 shudders and dies a little on the inside 05:16 <+Netham45> not from BrandonW, but from Visual SourceSafe 05:16 < bsparks> in the hands of people like tr1p1ea, benryves, BrandonW, Andy_J, Dan_E, PatrickD, and Michael_V... that 83+ is NOT a graphing calculator. 05:16 <@chronomex> BrandonW: mmkya I'll put it on my task queue 05:16 <+Netham45> BrandonW, you should patch the graph functions out of an OS, just for the irony 05:17 <@BrandonW> Write a key hook that won't let you press GRAPH. 05:17 <@BrandonW> Done. 05:17 <@chronomex> hahaha 05:17 <+Netham45> I CAN STILL PRESS TRACE 05:17 <+Netham45> I think 05:17 <+Netham45> that works, right? 05:17 <@chronomex> patch that out too 05:17 < bsparks> BrandonW, I can make the calc go to the graph screen! 05:17 <@BrandonW> Okay, I'll write an OS patch that kicks you to the homescreen whenever the graph context starts. 05:17 < bsparks> I know how! 05:17 <@chronomex> also the basic commands that bring up the graph screen 05:18 < i_c-Y> heres a simpler patch: take a hammer, and hit the calculator with it as hard as possible. 05:18 < i_c-Y> no more graphing. 05:18 < bsparks> :( 05:19 < Randomist> chronomex: Queue it to 2013 or 2037. :P 05:19 <@chronomex> Randomist: why aren't you on my /ignore list? 05:19 < bsparks> Randomist, Feb 2038 you mean 05:19 < Randomist> chronomex: :( 05:20 < Randomist> Yah, what bsparks said. 05:21 * Netham45 still wants to write an 83+ emulator for WinMo 05:21 <@BrandonW> I want to write one for Android. 05:21 < bsparks> I was looking into porting one to iPhone OS 05:22 < Randomist> I want to write one for *NIX terminals. 05:22 < bsparks> ...why haven't _I_ ignored him, chronomex? 05:22 <@chronomex> that's a very good question 05:22 <+Netham45> hrm 05:23 < bsparks> Actually, truth be told... I don't know how to use /ignore on xchat aqua :( 05:23 <+Netham45> Is there any way to transfer a program to my 84+ then to my 89? 05:23 < Randomist> What? That could work. 05:23 <+Netham45> Can't find my silverlink 05:23 < bsparks> Netham45, no :( 05:23 <+Netham45> =/ 05:23 <+Netham45> poo 05:23 <@chronomex> bsparks: ... /ignore Randomist ? 05:23 < Randomist> Most can get the TI-83+ resolution in text chars on their terminals. 05:23 < bsparks> chronomex, idk, /ignore has like, 8 commands I can use after it 05:24 < Randomist> If not, I can just make it scroll. 05:24 < bsparks> it's confusing 05:24 < i_c-Y> only for mac users. 05:24 <@chronomex> bsparks: you can't just give it an argument? 05:24 <@chronomex> try /help ignore 05:24 <+Genolo> in all my year and a half on irc i've never ignored anyone 05:24 < bsparks> chronomex, good luck on that :p 05:24 <+Genolo> that's not very long but stuff 05:24 <+Genolo> er 05:24 <+Genolo> still 05:24 < bsparks> my version should be masked 05:24 <+Netham45> Only person who's on my ignore list is Cricket_B 05:24 < Randomist> Ignore is fail. 05:24 < Randomist> The bandwidth still gets used. :P 05:24 <@chronomex> 21:24:20 [EFNet] CTCP VERSION reply from bsparks: mIndRC 0.2.43 OS X - It's IRC you control with your thoughts! 05:25 < Randomist> And it makes conversations look odd. 05:25 < bsparks> chronomex, I'm using XChat Aqua 0.16.0 05:25 * chronomex shrugs 05:25 <@chronomex> whatever 05:25 <@chronomex> why would you use a deficient client? 05:25 < bsparks> [00:24:38] Usage: IGNORE 05:25 < bsparks> [00:24:38] mask - host mask to ignore, eg: *!*@*.aol.com 05:25 < bsparks> [00:24:38] types - types of data to ignore, one or all of: 05:25 < bsparks> [00:24:38] PRIV, CHAN, NOTI, CTCP, DCC, INVI, ALL 05:25 < bsparks> [00:24:38] options - NOSAVE, QUIET 05:25 < bsparks> it's not deficent? 05:25 < bsparks> 0.17.0 was released in September 05:25 <+Genolo> the hell is xchat aqua 05:25 < bsparks> but has a menu bug, so I downgraded 05:26 < Randomist> Genolo: XChat for fish. 05:26 <@BrandonW> You know, the Emu8x source is actually really straightforward. 05:26 < bsparks> Genolo, XChat ported to OS X to use the Aqua Window System 05:26 < bsparks> BrandonW, no way? 05:26 < Randomist> "/ignore *Randomist*@*.*," foo. 05:26 <+Netham45> /quit Randomist!*@*.* 05:26 <@BrandonW> I know, it's either so genius that I'm just interpreting it as really simple, or it really is. 05:26 < bsparks> I may have to ignore Randomist, idk, then when people address him I'll feel like I missed something 05:27 < bsparks> BrandonW, I wanna say it's the latter 05:27 <@chronomex> bsparks: deficient == not irssi 05:27 < Randomist> Or WeeChat. 05:27 <@BrandonW> It's exactly how you'd expect it to work. 05:27 <@chronomex> you use weeaboochat? 05:28 <@BrandonW> Granted there are some wicked hacks in here, but it's not the voodoo magic I was expecting. 05:28 < bsparks> chronomex, irssi from macports seemed to have an issue in Terminal on OS X, granted it was in 10.4, but still. 05:28 <+Netham45> well 05:28 <+Netham45> fuck 05:28 <+Netham45> I found my silverlink 05:28 <+Netham45> but the tip that goes to the calc 05:28 <+Netham45> isn't there 05:28 <+Genolo> use a paper clip 05:29 < Randomist> chronomex: Text-configuration is much simpler. 05:29 < bsparks> chronomex, but in my defense, I used irssi for a solid MONTH before I went back to XChat :) 05:29 <+Netham45> I done put a papr clip in it, like that talkin MS clip, and all it does is sit there and the cursr stop blinkin'. 05:29 <@chronomex> bsparks: pah, I've been using irssi for ... this is my third year. 05:30 <+Netham45> I used irssi for about 2 months before going to xchat 05:30 <+Netham45> mIRC -> HydraIRC -> irssi -> XChat 05:30 < bsparks> chronomex, I have a few screen shots of what it'd do. Like that bar between the input line and the output? That used to break off and parts would climb up the output as it scrolled, etc 05:30 <@chronomex> bsparks: your terminal type was set wrong 05:31 <@chronomex> I get that too if I have my TERM wrong 05:32 < bsparks> chronomex, someone said that, yeah. I couldn't ever get it working right. And in reality I was only using it so I could use Screen. I'd actually switch back to irssi if I had the space on my HDD to 05:32 < bsparks> but in order to switch back to irssi, I'd need to free up... ...I think... 6gb total 05:32 < Randomist> O_o 05:32 <+Netham45> ^ 05:32 < bsparks> I'd have to install XCode, and wait the 2 days it takes to compile 05:32 <@BrandonW> This must've been an absolute bitch to code, but there's not a whole lot to it. 05:32 < i_c-Y> probably used the shitty OS X terminal. 05:33 < bsparks> i_c-Y, indeed I did. And it is the worst Terminal I have used :p but it was there, and I am lazy 05:33 < bsparks> BrandonW, but HOW does it work? 05:33 < i_c-Y> silly mac users. 05:33 < Randomist> [Whispers:] URxvt. 05:33 <@chronomex> :) 05:33 < i_c-Y> im using irssi right now. 05:33 < i_c-Y> yay for putty. 05:34 <@BrandonW> It basically has a gigantor jump table for each instruction and handles each one separately. It swaps in the appropriate RAM/Flash page in bank 2 when it needs to access/write memory, and it uses the shadow registers really heavily (swapping back and forth) in the handler for each instruction. 05:34 < bsparks> In all honesty, I had no different experience in using irssi than I do in using XChat, except for the face that I was using screen so I could SSH into my box and chat from anywhere, but then again, I only did that on my iPod, and the SSH clients I had for it _sucked_ compared to the actual IRC clients I have for it, and RemoteTap 05:34 <@chronomex> BrandonW: how fast is it? about 1/3 as fast as native? 05:34 < bsparks> BrandonW, that is a little like voodoo magic, but not much 05:35 <@BrandonW> And it seems to use IY for PC. 05:35 <@chronomex> hrm 05:35 <@BrandonW> Which is fairly smart since IY rarely chagnes in the OS. 05:35 <@BrandonW> changes* 05:35 <@BrandonW> Never, in fact. 05:35 <@chronomex> so they just left this whole register unused? 05:35 <@BrandonW> chronomex, I don't know, it's noticeably slow. 05:35 <@chronomex> aye ok 05:36 <@BrandonW> But he optimizess the link transfers. 05:36 <@chronomex> it's probably not consistent, so not easily measurable 05:36 < bsparks> BrandonW, even on an 84+SE 05:36 <@BrandonW> So you can transfer what you do on it off to another calculator. 05:36 <@BrandonW> It's totally unbearable on anything but an SE/84+. 05:36 <@chronomex> eeenteresting 05:36 <@BrandonW> Not even possible to run it. 05:36 <@BrandonW> It makes heavy use of the extra RAM pages. 05:36 < bsparks> Emu8x is, if nothing else, AMAZING, flat out, no joke 05:36 <@BrandonW> Not a chance in hell of running this on a calculator with the RAM page problem. 05:37 <@BrandonW> As far as IY, yes, they use it for all the OS flags. 05:37 <@BrandonW> On the 83+ it's 89F0h, always. 05:37 <@chronomex> ah 05:37 <@BrandonW> And it's sad that I know that. 05:37 -!- DrDnar [~Ander@c-24-35-66-83.customer.broadstripe.net] has joined #tcpa 05:37 <+Netham45> it's not sad, it's honorable. 05:37 <@BrandonW> DrDnar, quick, what's the start address of programs on the 83-? 05:37 * Randomist pokes MPD. 05:38 < Randomist> It is counting every second as two. O.o 05:38 < Randomist> Or, the other way around, rather. 05:39 <+Netham45> holy shit 05:39 <+Netham45> found the battery cover for my 84 05:39 < Randomist> Awesome! 05:39 * Randomist high-fives. 05:40 < bsparks> Wait, how do you find a battery cover for a number? 05:40 * Netham45 leaves Randomist hanging 05:40 <+Netham45> bsparks, I opened a drawer 05:40 <+Netham45> and there it was 05:40 < bsparks> A battery cover... for... a number 05:40 < Randomist> :( | The same way you find a letter for a battery. 05:41 <+Netham45> yea, and look at AAA's, they've found 3 letters. 05:41 <+Netham45> EACH. 05:41 < bsparks> Or is your = key broken? 05:41 <+Netham45> 84+ is merely a number followed by a mathematical operator 05:41 <+Netham45> which is even more absurd than just '84' 05:42 < Randomist> Rappers can roll on twenty-sixes. 05:42 <@BrandonW> No, "84" is what's absurd, you stupid stupid nub. 05:42 <@BrandonW> There's no such thing as an 84. 05:42 < bsparks> 84+ is a shortening of Texas Instruments TI-84+ 05:42 <+ports> do you people get mad when youre talking to someone online... and you find out later that you werent actually talking to that person.. someone else was typing for them 05:43 <@_Auron_> chinese companies need to stop emailing me about my game 05:43 <+Netham45> ports_, no, but I get annoyed when you talk. 05:43 <+Netham45> Sorry, my brother was speaking for me. 05:43 <@BrandonW> Get off, let your brother talk some more. 05:43 <+ports> lol 05:43 < Randomist> _Auron_: Which game? Your player game or your Android game? 05:44 <@_Auron_> player game? 05:44 < Randomist> [Ebonics phrase.] 05:44 <@_Auron_> I'm talking about my android game, Stroids 05:44 < JoeYoung_> ports_, no, but I get annoyed when you talk. <-- http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n107/Ryokugun2/1204367656566.jpg 05:45 < sir_lewk> like a ballon.. and something bad happens! 05:45 < Randomist> Today is the last binary date we get until November. :( 05:46 < Randomist> If you're in CST or earlier, enjoy it while you still can. :P 05:49 < DrDnar> BrandonW: 9D95 05:50 <@BrandonW> Wrong. 05:50 <@BrandonW> It's 9327h. 05:50 <@BrandonW> The 83+ is 9D95h. 05:50 < DrDnar> I had thought you meant the 83+. 05:50 <@BrandonW> I said "83-" explicitly so you would know what I was talking about. 05:51 < DrDnar> Dun dun dun . . . another spam bot on the Wiki. 05:51 < DrDnar> wait 05:51 < DrDnar> maybe not 05:51 < DrDnar> Badmadskillz might be human. 05:52 < sir_lewk> is he posting about calculators or viagra? 05:52 < sir_lewk> that is usually a good indicator I find 05:52 < DrDnar> No action. The bots never posted spam first-thing. 05:52 < DrDnar> It seems they would sleep a while. 05:53 < sir_lewk> ah 05:53 < sir_lewk> make a rule where if you register an account, you must make a post right afterwards 05:53 -!- Barrett [~Barrett@75-165-232-24.slkc.qwest.net] has joined #tcpa 05:53 < sir_lewk> if not, banned 05:53 < bsparks> fuck you :( 05:53 < bsparks> I like lurking 05:54 < sir_lewk> it wouldn't have to be anything of significance, just adding your name to a "not a spammer" list could work 05:54 < DrDnar> The bots could do that, too. 05:55 < sir_lewk> they'd have to be changed to do that 05:55 < sir_lewk> are people really tayloring bots to target this particular wiki? 05:55 -!- rcfreak0 [~rcfreak0@adsl-68-254-168-90.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net] has quit [Leaving] 05:56 < sir_lewk> seems if I was making wiki bots, I'd make a bot that just nailed wikis in general in a very generic fasion 05:56 <@chronomex> yeah 05:56 <@chronomex> that's what they do 05:57 < Randomist> Friggin' CAPTCHA, man. 05:58 < Randomist> Re-CAPTCHA, even. 05:59 < DrDnar> BrandonW: How secret is the secret project? 05:59 <@BrandonW> Not very. 05:59 <@chronomex> 100% 05:59 < DrDnar> Re-CAPTCHA is, in fact, what BrandonW installed on the Wiki. 05:59 < DrDnar> What is the not-so-secret project, then? 06:00 < bsparks> http://www.myspace.com/twentyonepilots http://www.facebook.com/pages/twenty-one-pilots/98049191147 <-- awesome band of awesomeness 06:00 <@BrandonW> The book. 06:00 < DrDnar> Oh, that? 06:01 <@BrandonW> Because of it, I'll be updating everything else. 06:01 <@BrandonW> Like usb8x, msd8x, etc. 06:01 < Merthsoft> bsparks: i like this 06:01 -!- Exploiter [~Sk84Life@c-67-185-40-45.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 06:01 < DrDnar> There's a Madskillz on UnitedTI, so the new account might just be him. 06:01 < bsparks> Merthsoft, they are the band of a friend's roomate's boyfriend I think. 06:01 < DrDnar> I'd love to proofread the thing, if you need it. 06:02 < Merthsoft> bsparks: they are grand :D 06:02 < bsparks> Merthsoft, anyway, they are a local band. And have a show at the newport on the 16th that I am trying to get to 06:02 < Merthsoft> oooh 06:03 <@chronomex> BrandonW: I have a decent amount of LaTeX experience :) 06:03 < bsparks> For the record, I have had 'Trees' on repeat for like, an hour, and was listening to Johnny all afternoon :p 06:03 <+Netham45> bleh, I can't find an end for my silverlink. :( 06:03 <+Netham45> bsparks, Rush? 06:03 < Merthsoft> no 06:03 < DrDnar> chronomex: As do I. I think he said something about Word a while back. 06:03 <@chronomex> yeaugh 06:03 < DrDnar> Yeah. 06:04 < bsparks> Netham45... ... ...you make me want to do the pencil trick from Dark Knight to myself 06:04 < Merthsoft> rush is a good band 06:04 <+Netham45> :( 06:04 < Merthsoft> and they have a song called "trees" 06:04 < Merthsoft> but that's not what we're talking about 06:04 <+Netham45> Now Playing: Rush - The Trees [0:05/4:42] 128kbps - 44Khz 06:04 < bsparks> imo. twenty | one | pilots "trees" > rush "trees" 06:05 <+Netham45> imo, you're too condescending. 06:05 < DrDnar> I tried to parse that as a shell command. 06:06 < bsparks> I have been told that, yeah. Aswell as being an 'asshole' 'jackass' 'dick' 'ass' and 'sonofabitch' 06:06 < Merthsoft> packing time! 06:06 <@_Auron_> I'm depressed. 06:06 -!- Merthsoft [~Shaun@d-69-161-78-59.cpe.metrocast.net] has quit [Quit: ☮♥♫] 06:06 <+Netham45> damnit 06:06 < bsparks> listen to twenty | one | pilots _Auron_! 06:06 <+Netham45> why do I STILL have christmas candy 06:07 <@chronomex> well it's not june yet 06:07 -!- Buckeye [~Poweruser@c-24-16-240-132.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Leaving.] 06:17 * Randomist reads as, "Listen to twenty or one or pilots," then segfaults while attempting to render a number into audio. 06:20 <+glk> Coast to coast tonight is about cosmology 06:20 -!- JoeYoung_ [~Joe@c-98-200-24-14.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:21 < i_c-Y> finally done fixing my laptop keyboard 06:21 <@BrandonW> So Peter still has the compass tattoo. 06:21 <@BrandonW> I'm giong to interpret this as him having multiple powers. 06:21 <@BrandonW> going* 06:21 <@BrandonW> Because that's what I want to happen. 06:22 * Randomist tilts his head, quizzically. 06:22 <@BrandonW> I finished watching tonight's Heroes. 06:22 <@BrandonW> They took away Peter's ability to hold multiple powers and I've been waiting 1-2 years for them to restore it. 06:22 < Randomist> Oh. [Gives a deadpan hum.] 06:24 < i_c-Y> this is an outrage! 06:24 < i_c-Y> :) 06:24 <@BrandonW> It's the only reason I'm still watching it. 06:24 <@BrandonW> The man had over 15 powers at once. 06:24 <@BrandonW> He was pretty much god. 06:24 -!- Barrett [~Barrett@75-165-232-24.slkc.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 06:25 < Randomist> [Quietly utters:] Glad he hasn't gotten into Twilight. 06:26 < nikky> BAWWWWW 06:28 -!- Netsplit hub.efnet.nl <-> irc.efnet.nl quits: @chronomex, +bluescead, j-b-r 06:28 <@BrandonW> Invincibility, invisibility, flight, teleportation, time travel by thought, telekinesis, painting the future, dreaming the future, super strength, reading/controlling others' thoughts, phasing through solid matter, pyrokinesis, electric manipulation... 06:28 <@BrandonW> The guy had all of it. 06:29 <@_Auron_> superman meets dr. who meets ms. cleo meets fantastic four 06:29 <@_Auron_> in one character :P 06:29 <@BrandonW> Oh yeah, and radioactivity. 06:29 <@BrandonW> He could be a nuclear bomb and then heal from the blast. 06:29 <@BrandonW> Which happened. 06:30 <+Genolo> fuck 06:30 < Randomist> ([list of powers]): Same archetypes. 06:30 <+Genolo> i'm going to fail this math project 06:30 <+Genolo> and then fail the class 06:30 <+Genolo> because i'm already failing 06:30 <+Genolo> http://genolo.nvm2u.com/img/math/math-front.JPG 06:31 <+Genolo> for number six i got never 06:31 < nikky> I APPROVED FIVE FILES TEV 06:31 < nikky> SUCK IT 06:31 <+Genolo> because i graphed it and got 636.64 was the highest 06:31 <+Genolo> this makes no sense 06:31 < nikky> Nikky: 5, Travis: 401 06:31 < Randomist> Genolo: http://www.realfreewebsites.com/blog/img/fail2.jpg 06:32 <+Genolo> i just spent like 06:32 <+Genolo> an hour and a half (procrastinating on the front side 06:32 <+Genolo> +) 06:33 <+Genolo> i think if i get a total of 240 points for the year i pass 06:33 <+Genolo> so that's a 60 each semester 06:33 <+Genolo> i had an 89 in semester one 06:34 <+Genolo> i have a 65 now 06:34 <+Genolo> but if i fail this project 06:34 <+Genolo> i'm fucked 06:34 <+Genolo> because i'm also going to fail the test 06:34 <+Genolo> and the mid term 06:35 < Randomist> If you think like that, of course you're going to fail. :P 06:35 < i_c-Y> then get off irc, dumbass. 06:35 < Randomist> That, too. 06:35 <+Genolo> i'd fail even more without getting people to tell me how to do this 06:35 <+Genolo> that's why i took a picture of it 06:36 <+Genolo> i had no clue how to do number one and now i have something that is possibly correct 06:36 < i_c-Y> let s be position 06:36 < i_c-Y> then s = s_0 + v_0 * t + .5 * a * t^2 when a is constant 06:36 < i_c-Y> take a = -g, s_0 be the height you're launching from 06:36 < i_c-Y> v_0 to be 45 ft/s 06:36 < i_c-Y> then s is the height. 06:37 < i_c-Y> its your basic 1d kinematic equations that you need. 06:37 <+Genolo> that's what i did 06:37 <+Genolo> i'm more concernce about the one with the what is the highest point and how long it takes to get there 06:37 <+Genolo> i graphed it on my calc 06:38 <+Genolo> and i got 636.64 for max height 06:38 < i_c-Y> if a parabola has a maximum (which in this case it clearly does) its the vertex. 06:38 <+Genolo> but that makes number six make no sense 06:38 <+glk> horizontal velocity is constant 06:38 <+Genolo> yeah i found the vertex 06:38 < i_c-Y> glk: its 0 in this case. thanks for distracting him. 06:38 < i_c-Y> what did you use for g? 06:38 < i_c-Y> is it 32 ft/s^2? 06:38 * incubus stands up and claps for i_c-Y 06:39 < i_c-Y> yeah, 32 ft / s^2 06:39 * Randomist joins in. 06:39 < i_c-Y> only stupid math books use ft/s^2. 06:39 < i_c-Y> so you have s = s_0 + v_0 * t + .5 * a * t^2 06:39 < i_c-Y> s_0 = 650 ft 06:39 < i_c-Y> v_0 = 45 ft/s 06:39 < i_c-Y> a = -g = -32 ft/s^2 06:39 < i_c-Y> so for 2, plug in t = 4 06:40 < i_c-Y> 3 , set s = 0 solve with quadratic formula, take the answer for t that makes sense 06:40 <+Genolo> that's what i did 06:40 < i_c-Y> 4, find the vertex of the parabola and thats the maximum height - note that velocity is 0 here , so 0 = v_0 + a * t -> 45/g = t 06:41 < i_c-Y> 5, plug in s = 50, use quadratic formula, pick answer that makes sense 06:41 < i_c-Y> 6, plug in s = 700, use quadratic formula, pick answer that makes sense. 06:41 <+Genolo> but the vertex of the parabola 06:41 <+Genolo> is around 636.64 06:42 <+Genolo> the y value 06:42 <+Genolo> so it doesn't go up to 700 06:42 < i_c-Y> what err, s_0 should be 605 btw 06:42 * Randomist 's eyes glaze over at the math, and he runs off into the darkness. 06:42 < i_c-Y> if it doesnt, then say that it doesnt! 06:42 -!- _Auron_ [~DarkAuron@adsl-99-147-86-31.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 506 seconds] 06:43 < i_c-Y> so this thing never gets 700 ft in the air. 06:43 <+Genolo> did you calculate it out? 06:44 <+Genolo> or are you just going by what i said 06:44 < i_c-Y> if you plug in t = 45/32 , you get 636.64 ft as the vertex. 06:44 <+Genolo> yes 06:45 <+Genolo> time for the back 06:45 <+Genolo> http://genolo.nvm2u.com/img/math/math-back.JPG 06:45 < i_c-Y> so it doesn't get there. 06:45 <+Genolo> B looks really simple to me 06:45 <+Genolo> didn't read c yet though 06:46 < i_c-Y> jeez, how hard is it? 06:46 -!- _Auron_ [~DarkAuron@adsl-99-147-86-31.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #tcpa 06:46 -!- mode/#tcpa [+o _Auron_] by efneTI86 06:46 < incubus> wtf at part C 06:46 < i_c-Y> change v_0 to be equal to -35 for part B, same everything else as A 06:46 < i_c-Y> that's #7 06:46 < i_c-Y> #8: set s = 605/2, solve for t 06:46 < i_c-Y> #9: set s = 0 , solve for t 06:46 < incubus> Instead of dropping an egg, you have to go to throw it but it slips out of your hand before you're able to? O_O 06:47 < i_c-Y> #10: set s=6, solve for t 06:47 <+Genolo> why am i throwing eggs off this thing anyway 06:47 < i_c-Y> #11: change v_0 to be 0, keep everything else the same in the eqn 06:47 <+Genolo> also my name is luke which makes this worksheet creepy 06:47 < i_c-Y> #12: plug in t=5, solve for s 06:47 < Randomist> The fuck kind of hypothetical situation shit is this? 06:47 < i_c-Y> #13: set s = 0, solve for t 06:47 < i_c-Y> make sure to pick the answer that makes sense 06:47 <+Genolo> i'm going to die from getting hit in the head with an egg 06:47 < i_c-Y> #14: set s = -30, solve for t 06:48 < i_c-Y> make sure your t values make sense 06:48 < i_c-Y> ie. t>0 for example. 06:49 <+Genolo> yeah\ 06:49 <+Genolo> -\ 06:49 < i_c-Y> okay, so now run along. i told you how to do every single problem on that sheet - its just quadratic formula application from this point on 06:50 <@BrandonW> Poor Cousin Luke's gonna DIE 06:51 < Randomist> Maybe they're preparing us for how to kill zombies in the future. 06:51 < i_c-Y> this assignment shouldn't take more than 10 minutes to do for a 9th grader. 06:51 -!- KermEEE [~KermM@cpe-74-66-230-83.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Leaving.] 06:51 <+Genolo> except i'm not in 9th grade 06:51 < i_c-Y> 8th grader? 12 minutes. 06:51 < i_c-Y> 7th grader? 15 minutes. 06:52 <@BrandonW> Don't you know, i_c-Y? You get stupider as you go along. 06:52 <+Genolo> i'm in 10th 06:52 < Randomist> i_c-Y: Only in Asia/India/Japan and all the countries in the East, does the time decrement exponentially as you go up. :P 06:52 < Randomist> Over here... 06:53 <@BrandonW> Yeah, and toilets flush backwards in South America. 06:53 <@BrandonW> Really freaks you out the first time you see it. 06:54 < i_c-Y> well, thats a toilet design issue 06:54 < i_c-Y> on how you make the bowl. 06:54 < Randomist> BrandonW: But over in South America, the toilets over in the North flush backwards. :) 06:54 -!- Tyler2 [~nexon@residence-232-86.mschaffer.ualberta.ca] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:55 < Randomist> Whose backwards "backwards" are we talking about? 06:55 < i_c-Y> so if you move a toilet from the northern hemisphere to the southern hemisphere, you'll get the same toilet flush direction 06:56 <@BrandonW> I say you're incorrect. 06:56 <+Genolo> why don't toilets just suck downward 06:56 <+Genolo> then if it was backwards it'd shoot up at you 06:56 < Randomist> There's a pun in there somewhere... 06:56 <+glk> Swirl is controlled by the hole, not hemisphere 06:57 < i_c-Y> it depends on your toilet design 06:57 < i_c-Y> :) 06:57 < i_c-Y> hello glk 06:57 <+glk> Hi. 06:57 <@BrandonW> Myth. 06:57 <@BrandonW> The hemisphere controls it. 06:58 < i_c-Y> only in your head. 06:58 < _Digital> BrandonW, yes I have Heroes. No I don't have it encoded yet 06:58 < i_c-Y> in reality, the hemisphere's influence is trivial. 06:58 <@BrandonW> I already got it in 720p. 06:59 <@BrandonW> So you ADMIT it has an influence! 06:59 < _Digital> somehow I broke my copy of mencoder... 06:59 < Randomist> Wait, are y'all seriously debating over friggin' toilet water swirl direction? 07:00 <@BrandonW> There's no debate, I'm right. 07:00 < Randomist> Just take some toilets from both hemispheres, meet half-way, and flush, then see what happens. 07:00 < _Digital> that means you're wrong BrandonW 07:00 < i_c-Y> BrandonW is being stupid. the hemisphere's influence is so many orders of magnitude below the toilet's design that its neglected. 07:00 -!- Goplat [~goplat@adsl-69-107-70-22.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has quit [Time left until the Apocalypse: 28yrs 1wk 6days 20hrs 13mins 31secs] 07:00 <+Genolo> 5.59 seconds for half the distance 07:00 < i_c-Y> nobody cares Genolo 07:00 < i_c-Y> go do your homework 07:01 < Randomist> Ha-ha, IRC father. 07:01 <+Genolo> i wish i was still in middle school 07:01 <+Netham45> that's not nice, i_c-Y. 07:01 <+Genolo> then i wouldn't have to worry about things like "the future" 07:01 < i_c-Y> shut up Netham45 , its past your bed time. 07:01 <+Genolo> and everything would be shit easy 07:01 <+Neff> is a TI-89 really so much more than the 83/84 that it wouldn't be allowed in a class? 07:01 < Randomist> Netham45: This is the Internet. The Internet is a cruel hate machine. 07:01 <+Netham45> i_c-Y, I don't have a bed time, kthx. 07:02 < i_c-Y> Randomist: if i knew their fathers, id ask them why they didn't kill these kids by the time they turned 10. 07:02 <@BrandonW> Neff, yes, it has a CAS. 07:02 <+Netham45> Randomist, that's 4chan, not the internet as a whole. Get your memes straight. 07:02 <+Neff> CAS? 07:02 <@BrandonW> Computer Algebra System. 07:02 <+glk> I defend the ti-89t against all enemies 07:02 <+Netham45> Computer Algebra System 07:02 < i_c-Y> computer algebra system 07:02 <@BrandonW> It has symbolic manipulation. 07:02 <@BrandonW> Meaning it has an understanding of unknown variables. 07:02 <+Netham45> lol, glk 07:02 < i_c-Y> glk: I am an enemy of the ti-89t. what are you going to do? 07:02 <@BrandonW> And you can manipulate expressions/equations with them. 07:02 <@BrandonW> So it can do a lot of your algebra 1/2 homework for you. 07:03 <+Neff> but as long as you don't use it on tests it should be fine? 07:03 <+glk> I will brick all your calcs by esp 07:03 <+Neff> well that doesnt' stop you from owning one anyway and using it does it? 07:03 < i_c-Y> matlab will make you its bitch, glk 07:03 <@BrandonW> I used an 89 all through high school without a problem. 07:03 <+Netham45> !qadd I defend the ti-89t against all enemies | I will brick all your calcs by esp 07:03 <@efneTI86> Quote 1671 added 07:03 <@BrandonW> But I didn't use it to cheat. 07:03 < incubus> ok come on 07:03 <@BrandonW> It just depends on your teacher or the school's rules. 07:03 < i_c-Y> they let you use calculators in math classes in highschool? 07:03 <+Netham45> I brought an 89 once, and I was accused of cheating 07:03 <@BrandonW> Or lack thereof. 07:04 < incubus> glk is just trolling at this point, blatantly 07:04 < Randomist> Neff: If your teacher doesn't give a fuck, then you're good. If your teacher does give a fuck, then, if you don't get caught, you're good. 07:04 <+Netham45> incubus, it's funny trolling 07:04 <+Netham45> so shut up 07:04 < incubus> O_O 07:04 <+Neff> hrm 07:04 < incubus> Netham45, one of my teachers used to clear the memory 07:04 <+Neff> maybe i can sneak through with it 07:04 < incubus> He would walk around and clear everyone's memory 07:04 <+Genolo> i'd say most trolling is funny if you're a spectator 07:04 <+Netham45> heh 07:04 <+Netham45> we had one of those 07:04 < Randomist> Neff: You could always do the TI-89T-in-TI-83+-casing thing. 07:04 <@BrandonW> Every teacher I ever had thought it would be good enough to remove the batteries for a minute. 07:04 <+Genolo> hell it's funny all the time 07:05 < incubus> BrandonW, LOL 07:05 < Randomist> (Or was it TI-84+SE?) 07:05 <+Netham45> we had a teacher running around with testguard 07:05 <+Netham45> he was annoying as fuck 07:05 <@BrandonW> So I would remove all the batteries, laugh hysterically inside, and re-insert them. 07:05 < incubus> Genolo, wrong http://episteme.arstechnica.com/eve/forums/a/ga/ul/241008587931/inlineimg/Y/troll2-e59.png 07:05 < i_c-Y> itd be an 84+, Randomist - the case for the 83+ isn't big enough 07:05 <@BrandonW> Lies. 07:05 <+glk> In the ti-89, archived items can survive battery removal 07:05 <@BrandonW> You can put an 89 in an 83+ case. 07:05 <+Neff> well this is a community college i don't know that my teacher will be all that tightassed about it 07:05 <@BrandonW> I knew a guy that did it for the ACTs. 07:05 < incubus> BrandonW, ahhaha 07:05 < i_c-Y> 89T, BrandonW 07:06 < incubus> My Calculus 2 teacher didn't let us use calcs 07:06 < i_c-Y> if you fit the pcb and what not in, you still have to deal with the keyboard. 07:06 < i_c-Y> no math class in a decent college lets you use a calculator. 07:06 <@BrandonW> The keypad is identical. 07:06 * Neff removes his batteries to test 07:06 <@BrandonW> Of course they do. 07:07 < incubus> yes because dividing numbers should be done in your head / on paper 07:07 < i_c-Y> isn't the button spacing different on the 89T vs 89? 07:07 -!- mode/#tcpa [-o chronomex] by |Remius| 07:07 -!- Netsplit over, joins: @chronomex, j-b-r, +bluescead 07:07 <@BrandonW> Yeah, but not between the 84+/SE and 89Ti. 07:07 < i_c-Y> yes, but read what Randomist said. 07:07 <+Neff> the buttons are different yeah 07:07 <+glk> http://grahamkendall.net/ has much 89 data in Math 07:07 < i_c-Y> 89T into 83+ case. 07:07 <@BrandonW> i_c-Y, I try not to. 07:07 <+Netham45> i_c-Y, he corrected himself like 3 lines lower 07:07 <+Neff> i have a classic TI-89 i bought 10 years ago 07:07 <@BrandonW> Yeah, exactly, Netham. 07:08 <@BrandonW> Is it HW1 or HW2, Neff? 07:08 < i_c-Y> he didn't correct himself. 07:08 <+Neff> HW2 07:08 <+Netham45> I have a HW2 07:08 <+glk> I gave away a classic 89 to a friend 07:08 <+Netham45> (Or was it TI-84+SE?) 07:08 <+Netham45> i_c-Y ^ 07:08 <@BrandonW> I want a HW2. 07:08 < i_c-Y> that isn't a correction. 07:08 <@BrandonW> My 89 is HW1. 07:08 <+Netham45> i_c-Y, stop being a douche, it's annoying. 07:09 < i_c-Y> jeez. seems like giving Netham45 hops made his balls nearly drop. 07:09 <@BrandonW> That's just an amazing comeback. 07:09 <@BrandonW> I might need a minute to process it. 07:10 <@BrandonW> Okay, I'm good. 07:10 <@BrandonW> Resume. 07:10 <+Netham45> i_c-Y, grow up already. You're what, a senior in College? 07:10 < i_c-Y> nope. 07:10 <+Netham45> but, regardless, I have to be up in 6 hours, so I'm going to bed. 07:10 <+glk> My older 89t went crazy so I installed a new os 07:11 < i_c-Y> oh no, 6 hours. 07:11 < i_c-Y> glk: how many 89t do you have? 07:11 <+glk> 2 of them 07:11 <@BrandonW> Ask him if he runs assy. 07:11 <+glk> no assy 07:11 <@BrandonW> lol 07:11 < i_c-Y> glk: do you wear them as bling? 07:11 <@BrandonW> That amuses me more than it should. 07:12 <+glk> .no 07:12 <+glk> Stereo ti-89t 07:12 < i_c-Y> do you have a car mount for them? 07:12 < i_c-Y> a hands free kit for the ti-89t? 07:12 <+glk> No car 07:12 <+glk> . 07:12 <@BrandonW> No car? 07:12 <@BrandonW> Do they scare you? 07:12 <@BrandonW> I bet they were pretty scary when they first came out. 07:13 < Randomist> Can't blame anyone with all these bitches that cain't drive. 07:13 <+glk> I gave up driving for my safety and all near a road 07:13 < Randomist> See! 07:13 < i_c-Y> glk: do you acknowledge the HP 50G is superior to the TI 89T? 07:13 <+glk> I am 77 now 07:13 <@BrandonW> SHUT UP BLASPHEMER 07:13 <@BrandonW> TI is superior in all things. 07:13 <+glk> I have a hp49g+ 07:14 < i_c-Y> acknowledge HP superiority. 07:14 <+glk> It will do things not in the 89t 07:14 <@BrandonW> If they're so superior, why aren't they in every classroom, douche? 07:14 < Randomist> BrandonW: They cain't handle it. 07:14 <+glk> fft, svd, gamma function 07:14 <@BrandonW> It's "can't", nub. 07:14 < i_c-Y> well, sadly, most of the US is as dumb as people from TN 07:14 < Randomist> Cayn't. 07:14 <+glk> Laplace and inverse 07:14 < i_c-Y> so they can't handle the power. 07:14 < nikky> KICK HIM BRANDON 07:14 < nikky> YOU HAVE THE POWER 07:15 <@BrandonW> !k i_c-Y MY STATE IS A GREAT STATE 07:15 -!- i_c-Y was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [BrandonW: MY STATE IS A GREAT STATE] 07:15 < Kyurel> well, there goes the disruption. 07:15 -!- i_c-Y [~Icy@cpe-69-204-242-163.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa 07:15 < Randomist> Kyurel: Turn that off. 07:15 < i_c-Y> the only thing good to come out of TN is jack daniels. 07:15 <@BrandonW> I came out of it. :( 07:15 < i_c-Y> my statement still holds. 07:16 <+Genolo> kids these days and their usesless scripts 07:16 < incubus> lol 07:17 < Randomist> Genolo: I blame MySpace. 07:17 <@BrandonW> Yeah, and what's worse is that they can't even pass algebra 2. 07:17 < incubus> BrandonW, lol 07:17 <+Genolo> hey i'm passing 07:17 <+Genolo> just barely but i am 07:17 < incubus> I don't remember doing anything in Algebra 2 07:17 < incubus> like literally, I don't think I did a single homework assignment 07:18 <@BrandonW> I remember spreading the quadratic solver program for the 83+ to all the students. 07:18 <@BrandonW> By hand. Link cables are for wusses. 07:18 < incubus> lol 07:18 < incubus> LOL 07:18 < incubus> did you charge a high fee? 07:18 <@BrandonW> No, but I should've. 07:18 <@BrandonW> At the time I think I had 4 calculators, I lent them out to random people. 07:18 <@BrandonW> And one hot girl, she used my 83. 07:18 < Randomist> Now, there are more quadratic solvers than street-corner churches. 07:19 <@BrandonW> And then she kept it...bitch... 07:19 <@BrandonW> But I replaced it, so it's all good. 07:19 < incubus> BrandonW, wtf dude 07:19 < DSP_Lord> lol BrandonW 07:19 < incubus> That's bullshit god dammit 07:19 < incubus> I would have killed her 07:19 <+Neff> if i have to buy a 83/84 which one should i try to get 07:19 <@BrandonW> lol 07:19 < aksnowman> hahaha 07:19 <@BrandonW> Get an 84+SE. 07:19 < aksnowman> the many griefs of BrandonW 07:19 < Randomist> ^ 07:19 <+Genolo> incubus: never mind kill her 07:19 <+Genolo> make her pay 07:20 <+Genolo> with her bo- nevermind 07:20 <+Neff> what's better about the 84+SE 07:20 <+Genolo> get the 84+SE 07:20 <+Neff> what's better about the 84+SE 07:20 < Randomist> Genolo: Clearly, you've been watching too much hentai. :P 07:20 <+Genolo> Randomist: it's for the sake of science 07:21 <@BrandonW> It has direct USB and the most memory. 07:21 <+Neff> hrm 07:21 < aksnowman> I once wrote a program (basic) that did the equation solving thing using p and q or w/e, solved about 95% of the time, haha 07:22 < aksnowman> and what it didn't solve, it gave the remaining equation so you could solve it by hand 07:22 < aksnowman> I never gave it to anyone, I just liked writing all the programs and games and crap 07:22 < Randomist> Could have had you some dinero. 07:22 <+Genolo> last year i wrote one for robotics 07:22 <+Genolo> it did something with gears 07:22 <+Genolo> i don't remember what 07:22 <@BrandonW> incubus, I never had the chance to kill her, we graduated right after. 07:22 <@BrandonW> Never even got the chance to ask for it back. 07:22 < incubus> I'd go back for revenge 07:22 <+Genolo> don't you mean ra- nevermind 07:23 < Randomist> "Bitch done stole my eighty-fo'!" 07:23 < incubus> lol 07:23 < incubus> What if she ended up being Herbert's daughter 07:23 < incubus> O_O 07:23 < Randomist> Plot twist! 07:23 < incubus> lol 07:23 < incubus> BrandonW just did the Anime sweat drop + red face 07:23 <@BrandonW> TI develops time travel in the future. They sent a hot girl back in time to steal my 83 and alter the course of history. 07:24 < incubus> lmfao 07:24 < incubus> Starring Christopher Lloyd 07:24 <@BrandonW> I'm hooked on Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles right now, sorry. 07:24 <+Genolo> !qadd TI develops time travel in the future. They sent a hot girl back in time to steal my 83 and alter the course of history. 07:24 <@efneTI86> Quote 1672 added 07:26 < incubus> !q 07:26 < incubus> !qrand 07:26 < incubus> !qrandom 07:26 < incubus> !fffuuuuu 07:26 < Randomist> !qrand 07:26 <@_Auron_> .. 07:26 <@_Auron_> !qsay 07:26 < aksnowman> !q 07:26 <@_Auron_> !q 07:26 <@efneTI86> 595: A_Muffin: you died! and came back | _3fg`: hooray for ping timeouts | _3fg`: I am IRC's Jesus [Added: _Digital at 2006/07/10 17:22] 07:26 < aksnowman> lol 07:26 < aksnowman> !q 07:26 <@_Auron_> !qsay 07:26 < aksnowman> !qsay 07:26 < incubus> find quote # 1 07:26 <@_Auron_> !qsay 1 07:26 <@efneTI86> Couldn't find quote 1 07:26 < aksnowman> lol 07:26 <@_Auron_> !qsay 07:26 < incubus> !qsay 2 07:26 <@_Auron_> !qsay 3 07:26 <@efneTI86> Couldn't find quote 3 07:26 < Randomist> _Auron_ is its master. 07:27 < incubus> O_O 07:27 < aksnowman> haha 07:27 <@_Auron_> !quote 07:27 <@_Auron_> baw 07:27 <@_Auron_> !quoteurl 07:27 <@efneTI86> http://tcpa.aardy.net/quotes/ 07:27 < Randomist> !q 666 07:27 < incubus> BROKEN LINK 07:27 <@_Auron_> aw.. 07:27 < incubus> good lord 07:27 < incubus> that bot is literally breaking apart 07:27 <@_Auron_> !qsay 666 07:27 <@efneTI86> 666: (#calcs) it. is. HERE | DOOM | #TCPA SHALL PERISH IN A VIRTUAL E-FIREBALL OF DOOOOOM | ~sings the doom song~ DOOM DOOM DOOM DOOOOM DDDOOOOM DOOOM DOOM DDDOOOOMMMM DOOMMMMM | GIR! | BOOOM | ~nukes #TCPA~ [Added Andy_J at 2006/08/18 23:18] 07:28 < incubus> I don't remember seth_f 07:28 <@_Auron_> lol. 07:28 < Randomist> !whowas seth_f 07:28 <@_Auron_> he's hunterkll 07:28 < Randomist> Oh. 07:28 * aksnowman can never remember how to ident w/ 86, or 86 just doesn't like me :( 07:28 < incubus> lol 07:29 < Randomist> aksnowman: "/msg efneTI86 ident $PASSWORD $ORIG_USERNAME" 07:29 < DSP_Lord> !seen 3fg 07:29 <@efneTI86> DSP_Lord, I don't remember seeing 3fg. 07:29 < aksnowman> ahh, "ident", I was trying "identify" 07:29 < DSP_Lord> bullshit. 07:29 < aksnowman> that's the part I forget 07:29 < DSP_Lord> !seen _3fg 07:29 < aksnowman> every single time 07:29 <@efneTI86> _3fg (~admin@cpe-76-182-207-178.tx.res.rr.com) was last seen quitting from #tcpa 124 days, 10 hours, 19 minutes ago stating (Ping timeout: 480 seconds). 07:29 < DSP_Lord> that's better. 07:30 < aksnowman> !qsay 1134 07:30 <@efneTI86> 1134: * Ox40 is now known as _Analog | !k _Analog Gotta convert #tcpa to all-_Digital by 2008. [Added _Digital at 2007/11/27 23:58] 07:31 < aksnowman> yay! all better :) 07:31 <+Genolo> !qsay 07:31 <+Genolo> no random? 07:31 < aksnowman> !q 07:31 <@efneTI86> 389: electrical fire == live wires live wires + water == shorts shorts == more electrical fires fortunately, at least only shorts. Pants do not cause electrical fires. [Added: aquanight at 2005/12/16 23:36] 07:31 < aksnowman> !q 07:31 <@efneTI86> 755: * Captain_A has joined #tcpa | aloha | Anyone know what the abbreviation oem means? | <_3fg> you're leaving? | <_3fg> awesome! | I die a little each time you speak to me _3fg | <_3fg> I'm so happy | <_3fg> Captain_A: one of the definitions of "aloha" is "goodbye" | <_3fg> so stay true to your word | <_3fg> and leave [Added: DSP_Lord at 2006/11/06 19:51] 07:31 <+Genolo> oh i see 07:31 < aksnowman> hehe 07:31 <+Genolo> i'm only in one of the quotes 07:31 <+Genolo> i think 07:32 <+Genolo> there was the channel houseplant one but quotes were down 07:32 < aksnowman> !qfind genolo 07:32 <@efneTI86> 1623:i_c-Y: <+Genolo> NIKKY ISN'T A TROLL | <+Genolo> nikky is more like a soft and cuddly teddy bear | oh god. | that is the most hilarious lie i have ever seen in here. 07:32 <@efneTI86> (All of 1 match) 07:32 * aksnowman fades back into the distance again 07:33 < DSP_Lord> lol 07:34 < DSP_Lord> !seen aquanight 07:34 <@efneTI86> aquanight (aquanight@67-60-127-44.cpe.cableone.net) was last seen leaving the partyline from CalcIon 111 days, 8 hours, 22 minutes ago. 07:34 < DSP_Lord> :< 07:34 < Randomist> ¿Comó el? 07:34 <@BrandonW> The machines in the Terminator franchise are never shown to have a good side. 07:34 <@BrandonW> Unlike with the Matrix. 07:35 * Randomist scratches his head at crazy CPU usage. 07:37 < Randomist> sh: screenshot-remote: command not found 07:37 * Randomist facepams. 07:38 <+Genolo> i haven't had pizza in forever 07:38 <+Genolo> whenever i go to a pizza place i end up buying fried dough 07:38 < incubus> I've almost finished downloading every dragonball z episode :D 07:38 <@BrandonW> I have a friend who's a Dragonball Z nut. 07:39 <@BrandonW> Whenever he brings it up I tell him to shut up. 07:39 <+Genolo> i've almost finished downloading every episode that's subbed of tegami bachi! 07:39 < incubus> wtf 07:39 < incubus> fuck Anime 07:39 < incubus> Genolo, I hate you so much 07:39 < incubus> BrandonW, did you watch it? 07:40 <@BrandonW> No, I refuse. 07:40 < incubus> ... 07:40 < incubus> BrandonW, are you challenging me to a fight? 07:40 <@BrandonW> FIGHT 07:40 < incubus> lol 07:40 < Randomist> Updated: http://wintervenom.brandonw.net/Screenshot.png 07:40 * incubus stands with a solemn face as a swirl of wind and light rises above his head 07:41 < Randomist> Why are CPU usage numbers so odd like that? 07:41 < incubus> dude 07:41 < Randomist> Shouldn't all the processes total up to the average? 07:41 < incubus> get a desktop manager 07:41 <+Genolo> hey look mom i'm in that picture 07:41 < incubus> for the love of god 07:43 < Randomist> incubus: What do I need that for? 07:43 < incubus> O_O 07:43 <+Genolo> if your hostmask remains the same, does the bot recognize you even if you don't input your password? 07:44 < aksnowman> i think so, Genolo 07:44 < aksnowman> and off to bed... 07:44 < aksnowman> later 07:44 <+Genolo> well that isn't good 07:44 <+Genolo> i gave a couple people on efnet bouncers 07:44 <+Genolo> so they have the same hostmask 07:44 < incubus> Randomist, btw that seems right to me 07:44 < incubus> 35/5 07:44 <+Genolo> >_> 07:44 < incubus> And the listed CPU percentages probably don't have any decimal precision 07:44 < incubus> I see 5 non-zero process percentages 07:48 <+Genolo> oh man i can download a whole blu ray episode of animé in less than 10 minutes 07:48 <+Genolo> it used to take 2 hours 07:49 < _Digital> Genolo, you have 35/5 07:49 < _Digital> ? 07:49 <+Genolo> am i supposed to know what that means 07:50 -!- Spengo [~Spengo@64.251.246.138] has quit [asdf] 07:53 <+Genolo> i wasn't planning on doing the spanish homework but maybe i should 07:54 <+Genolo> i'm not all that tired 07:54 < Randomist> Goo diea. 07:54 < Randomist> Also a "good idea." 07:55 < Randomist> Whoo, one more day. 07:56 < Randomist> (And a dozen of hours or so after that.) 07:56 < Randomist> And, then, I can get the hell out of Lubbock. 07:57 <@BrandonW> I'm only happy for you because it means you'll stop bitching about being in Lubbock. 07:57 <+Genolo> move to connecticut i feel lonely being the only person on the internet from connecticut 07:59 <+glk> I am in Tulsa OK, the hub of the universe 07:59 < nikky> Randomist: 4GB of RAM and you're using that crap? 07:59 <+Genolo> yesterday, or today for some people, was a date in binary 08:00 <@BrandonW> Truth. 08:00 < chronomex> 23:15:37 <@BrandonW> I came out of it. :( 08:00 < chronomex> aren't you still there? 08:00 < nikky> no 08:01 < chronomex> did he finally move to seattle? 08:01 < nikky> yes 08:01 <@BrandonW> I'm at your window on a laptop. 08:02 < Randomist> nikky: Yes. 08:02 < incubus> BrandonW, you watch me pee? O_O 08:02 < nikky> Randomist: you're depraved 08:02 -!- DSP_Lord [~darksidep@h148.9.96.216.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has quit [Quit: brb fuckstarting modem/router] 08:03 < Randomist> I don't need a mouse for anything except for when I'm messing with my artwork in GIMP. 08:03 <@BrandonW> incubus, is that what you call that? 08:03 < Randomist> Most everything can be done in one keyboard shortcut. 08:03 < nikky> uh-hunh 08:04 < incubus> BrandonW, :*( 08:05 < Randomist> nikky: Also, why install a ton of bloat you're never going to use, need, or you have to click around all the time to use? :P 08:05 <@BrandonW> Randomist, you're sick. Seriously. 08:05 <@BrandonW> Please go back to 1994. 08:06 < nikky> I think you're confusing "bloat" with "features" 08:06 < incubus> more like 1989 08:06 < nikky> I mean, htop is bloated 08:06 < nikky> why not use top? 08:06 < nikky> and weechat? 08:06 < nikky> bloat 08:07 < nikky> telnet directly to the server 08:07 < nikky> what is this music crap 08:07 < nikky> bloat 08:07 < nikky> use a CD player for that 08:07 < Randomist> lol 08:07 <@BrandonW> You don't know that you're never going to use any of that stuff. 08:07 < incubus> Randomist, you're bloated dude 08:07 < incubus> gtfo 08:07 < incubus> btw colors? 08:07 -!- iGenolo [~igenolo@c-67-186-131-78.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 08:07 <@BrandonW> If the world ends tomorrow and you have one of the only PCs in the area that still works and you need it to do something you don't normally do, what are you going to do? 08:07 < incubus> Why do you need colors? 08:07 < nikky> bloat 08:07 <@BrandonW> You're screwed then. 08:08 < incubus> Black:White, choose one 08:08 < Randomist> BrandonW: If I need it, I'll install it or write my own thing. :P 08:08 <+Genolo> what 08:08 <@BrandonW> The internet has been destroyed, you can't download or install it. 08:08 -!- DrDnar [~Ander@c-24-35-66-83.customer.broadstripe.net] has quit [Leaving.] 08:08 < nikky> zsh? bloated 08:08 <+Genolo> why did my ipod just connect 08:08 < nikky> cups? hella bloated 08:08 -!- iGenolo [~igenolo@c-67-186-131-78.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:08 <@BrandonW> You don't have enough time to write something new, you only have 5 hours until your last laptop battery dies. 08:08 <@BrandonW> And then you're done. 08:08 <@BrandonW> Civilization is over. 08:08 < nikky> thunar? not bloated 08:08 <@BrandonW> AND YOU CAUSED IT 08:08 < nikky> but doesn't actually work either 08:08 < nikky> why not use MC? 08:09 < incubus> nikky, lmfao 08:09 <+Genolo> i use dolphin but i don't like it 08:09 < Randomist> nikky: I do. :P 08:09 < nikky> dbus? you don't need it 08:09 < nikky> bloat 08:09 <+Genolo> it's just easy to save files directly to a server that way 08:09 < nikky> in fact a WM in general is bloat 08:09 < Randomist> I only use Thunar when I need to preview things. 08:09 -!- DSP_Lord [~darksidep@h148.9.96.216.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has joined #tcpa 08:09 <@efneTI92> [DSP_Lord] I'm not a ninja, no idea what you're talking about. 08:09 < nikky> just direct boot to a terminal 08:09 < nikky> and use screen 08:10 < nikky> firefox? serious bloat 08:10 < Randomist> nikky: I'll agree with you there. 08:10 < nikky> The moral of this is 08:10 < incubus> dude 08:10 < incubus> YOU HAVE FIREFOX? 08:10 < nikky> if you say "bloat" one more time 08:10 < nikky> I'm going to ban you 08:10 < Exploiter> http://tinychat.com/inappropriate 08:10 < incubus> Exploiter, who is this 08:11 < nikky> what is this Randomist, wlan0? 08:11 < nikky> wireless is bloated 08:11 < nikky> use ethernet 08:11 < Randomist> incubus: Yah, 'cause I use XMarks to keep it, Chromium, Idle Mind (my other machine), and, later, my school machine, in sync with each other. 08:12 < Randomist> So I'm kind of stuck with that for now. 08:12 < nikky> use links 08:12 < Randomist> Also, they use Blackboard/WebCT (barf). 08:13 <+Genolo> i've been using mplayer on my ipod 08:13 < Randomist> Which pretty much fails outside of IE/Firefox. 08:13 <+Genolo> it uses so much battery 08:13 <+Genolo> but i can't sync without booting into windows 08:13 <+Genolo> and this laptop has no guarentee of turning on 08:13 <+Genolo> once off 08:14 < nikky> now my desktop is unbloated 08:16 < Randomist> If you really want to un-bloat it, just get rid of the X server and anything that depends on it. 08:16 < nikky> I run 4 x servers at once 08:16 < incubus> someone stab Exploiter in the face 08:16 <+Genolo> oh shit he said bloat again 08:16 < Exploiter> why? 08:16 < Exploiter> wtf incubus 08:17 < Exploiter> got a problem with traps? 08:17 <+Genolo> traps like this? http://genolo.nvm2u.com/img/moetanswut.png 08:17 < Exploiter> not quite 08:17 < Exploiter> it's like 50/50 08:18 < Exploiter> some are trap, some are obvious 08:18 < nikky> trap? 08:18 <+Genolo> well that dude is pretty ugly 08:18 < Exploiter> well i'm the ugly fuck up top 08:18 < Exploiter> :/ 08:19 < _Digital> OMG, I have a new favorite scene in House 08:19 < _Digital> cause a loud noise, and a guy faints 08:19 < _Digital> execution is awesome 08:19 < incubus> Exploiter, I want to have sex with them 08:19 -!- \\BAF\IRC [ferrisr@cpe-74-67-34-29.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:19 < Exploiter> so ask sascha to do something 08:19 <+Genolo> i have the best trap ever but i can't find it 08:19 < Exploiter> she's been playing with dildos and shit 08:19 < Exploiter> had her gf whipping her earlier 08:19 < incubus> Exploiter, ew I was jk 08:19 -!- \\BAF\IRC [ferrisr@cpe-74-67-34-29.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa 08:19 < incubus> I'm trolling 08:19 < Exploiter> so go troll 08:19 < incubus> :D *troll face* 08:20 < Exploiter> they'll lul 08:20 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v \\BAF\IRC] by SnowCrash 08:20 <+Genolo> oh here it is 08:20 <+Genolo> http://fraxy.kafuka.org/~kiro/img/475887.jpg 08:20 <+Genolo> now THAT'S a trap 08:20 < Exploiter> yes, yes it is 08:20 < nikky> I don't get it 08:20 < incubus> who is winter 08:20 < nikky> it's some furry 08:20 < incubus> wintervenom 08:20 < Exploiter> nikky, quit trolling 08:20 < Exploiter> i'm Sk84Life btw nikky 08:21 <+Genolo> lolwho 08:21 < Exploiter> you just haven't noticed 08:21 < nikky> Oh, that's right 08:21 < Exploiter> i dunno. nikky used to say hi every single time i came in here 08:21 < incubus> wintervenom0: incubeous: The hell have we clicked on? 08:21 < Exploiter> then i switched nicks and yeah 08:21 < Exploiter> i've been exploiter for ages though 08:21 < incubus> I should get my webcam and troll hard 08:21 < Exploiter> do it 08:21 < Randomist> Do it! 08:21 < incubus> lol 08:21 <+Genolo> use skype so i can watch 08:22 < incubus> LOL 08:22 <+Genolo> just don't start wanking or some shit 08:22 < incubus> ew 08:22 < incubus> I don't have a penis 08:22 < incubus> Asexual Ken Doll 08:22 < incubus> A real troll doesn't masturbate on cam 08:22 < incubus> that's instant loose 08:23 < nikky> Okay, um 08:23 < nikky> I'm going to detach this screen 08:23 < incubus> lol 08:23 < nikky> You sickos have fun 08:23 < incubus> Everyone is drunk 08:23 <+Genolo> sigh i have math homework too 08:23 <+Genolo> aside from the project 08:23 <+Genolo> fuck it i'm going to sleep 08:23 < Randomist> Well, I can tell that much. 08:24 <+Genolo> i've never even had coffee 08:24 <+Genolo> nevermind alcohol 08:24 < incubus> Exploiter, why do you like chatting with Tarps? 08:24 < Exploiter> i'm a wannabe trap 08:26 -!- glk [glk@ppp-70-128-96-254.dsl.tulsok.swbell.net] has quit [ http://grahamkendall.net/] 08:27 < incubus> Exploiter, why dude, why 08:27 < Randomist> It is good that IRC does not have support for cameras. 08:27 < Exploiter> lolz 08:27 < Exploiter> this is true 08:27 < Exploiter> incubus, i'm 2 weeks into mones 08:27 < Exploiter> and i look fugly right now 08:27 < incubus> wtf is mones 08:28 < Randomist> [Hor]mones? 08:29 < incubus> 'Mones 08:29 < Exploiter> ^ 08:29 -!- leofox [leofox@leofox.student.utwente.nl] has joined #tcpa 08:29 <@efneTI92> [leofox] All we do in hell is play DDR! 08:29 < incubus> Exploiter, cut off your dick on cam 08:29 < Exploiter> yikes 08:29 < Exploiter> sounds painful 08:29 < incubus> :D 08:29 < Exploiter> i'll need it if i ever want a vagina 08:30 < incubus> oh yah :/ 08:31 < Exploiter> i don't really like where the tech is at right now though... hopefully they figure something better 08:31 < Exploiter> inverting your dick is hardly a vagina 08:32 < incubus> :( 08:33 < incubus> Exploiter, have you noticed 99% of the people on tinychat are black? 08:33 < Exploiter> no i haven't actually 08:33 < Exploiter> haven't seen a single black person now that you mention it 08:34 < Randomist> Besides the idling Randomist. 08:35 -!- Weegeee [~Weegee@207-119-228-84.dyn.centurytel.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 615 seconds] 08:36 < incubus> Randomist, lol 08:36 < incubus> Randomist, you're black? 08:37 < Randomist> Facebook. 08:37 < Randomist> :P 08:37 < Randomist> But, yes. 08:38 * Randomist sees no epic trollage and closes the window. 08:41 < incubus> lol 08:41 < incubus> Exploiter, I got /b/ to come on 08:41 < Exploiter> oh lovely 08:41 -!- Buckeye [~Poweruser@c-24-16-240-132.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 08:42 -!- Weegee [~Weegee@207-119-228-84.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #tcpa 08:42 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Weegee] by etaonrish 08:43 < incubus> Exploiter, you wish you looked like Sascha 08:43 < Exploiter> srsly 08:47 < incubus> Exploiter, you can commense fapping 08:47 -!- Weegeee [~Weegee@207-119-228-84.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #tcpa 08:47 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Weegeee] by efneTI81, |Remius|, efneTI86 08:49 -!- mode/#tcpa [+o chronomex] by efneTI86 08:49 -!- Weegee [~Weegee@207-119-228-84.dyn.centurytel.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 08:50 < Exploiter> incubus, i'm already on mones so i don't really have the desire to fap right now 08:52 < incubus> Exploiter, does that desire ever come back? 08:52 < Exploiter> yeah 08:52 < Exploiter> just not as often 08:52 < Exploiter> when you first start, your libido is all jacked up 08:53 < Exploiter> and really it won't switch to a girls unless you're at the right hormonal levels 08:53 < incubus> lol 08:53 < Exploiter> so some like self medding trans girls may never really figure it out 08:53 < Exploiter> but most just start having female orgasms eventually which are amazing apparently 08:54 < Exploiter> 10x less often, but 10x more intense 08:54 < Exploiter> is what i've heard 08:54 < DSP_Lord> ... 08:55 * Randomist makes a deadpan gesture, and walks off to write lyrics to a song in anagrams. 08:56 < incubus> Exploiter, lame 08:56 < Exploiter> what? 08:56 < incubus> it's not true! :P 08:56 < Exploiter> what is? 08:57 < incubus> haha look at simpson!! 08:58 < Exploiter> looks like a mirror of a face 08:58 < incubus> Exploiter, btw Lichen got his shit ruined 08:59 < incubus> Did you see that one guy call out his chin? 08:59 < Exploiter> yeah :/ 08:59 < Exploiter> it's true, but still 08:59 < Exploiter> it's probably because lichen already looks like a girl and she's not even on mones yet 08:59 < incubus> lol 08:59 < incubus> Exploiter, it's not like your chin decreases thoug 08:59 < incubus> though* 09:00 < Exploiter> i'm just fail all around because my parents fucking forced me to get my hair cut 09:00 < Exploiter> nope not at all 09:00 < Exploiter> surgery or deal with it 09:00 < Exploiter> it's what sucks about post puberty transition 09:01 < incubus> lol how old are you? 09:02 < Exploiter> just turned 20 on the 9th 09:02 < DSP_Lord> am i missing something here? 09:02 < Exploiter> yes, you are 09:02 < DSP_Lord> apparently so. 09:03 < incubus> I'm trying to get a trap to show her penis so I can fap 09:03 < Exploiter> good luck 09:03 < incubus> minus the fap part 09:03 < Exploiter> sascha might do it, but she's the only one 09:03 < Exploiter> i know the rest 09:03 < incubus> lol 09:03 < Exploiter> they wouldn't ever 09:04 < incubus> Exploiter, are you all LGBT? 09:04 < leofox> hehe traps 09:04 < Exploiter> yeah 09:04 < incubus> sascha isn't 09:04 < Exploiter> sascha is trans 09:04 < incubus> I mean 09:04 < incubus> A Lesbo Trap 09:04 < incubus> are you all lesbo traps 09:04 < leofox> who is sascha? 09:04 < Exploiter> her gf is right there on the bed 09:04 < leofox> I love traps though 09:04 < Exploiter> in the background of her webcam 09:04 < Randomist> leofox: See Exploiter's link. 09:04 < Randomist> [Insert disclaimer here.] 09:05 < leofox> I cant see the link 09:05 < leofox> probably posted before I joined 09:05 < Exploiter> lol 09:05 < Exploiter> http://tinychat.com/inappropriate 09:05 < incubus> Exploiter, I'm asking you, are you all straight traps 09:05 < incubus> or lesbian traps 09:05 < Exploiter> i couldn't really tell you 09:05 < Exploiter> i don't know them well enough to know where everyones sexual preference lies off the top of my head 09:05 < incubus> O_O I'm sure there's a general consensus 09:06 < leofox> haha Anons 09:06 < Exploiter> nah it's all over the place 09:06 < leofox> I wonder If I know one of the, 09:06 < Exploiter> i think most of us are probably lesbian, and bi curious 09:06 < Exploiter> sascha flat out said she likes boys but she got assaulted once so she doesn't go near em anymore 09:07 < incubus> lol 09:07 < Exploiter> chat just keeps getting bigger 09:07 < Exploiter> jesus 09:07 < incubus> I'm advertising it 09:07 < incubus> :P 09:08 < Exploiter> omg 09:08 < Exploiter> quit it lul 09:08 < Exploiter> too many people 09:08 < incubus> *troll face* 09:08 < Randomist> Should put link in religioius chatroom. 09:08 < Exploiter> rofl 09:10 < incubus> lol 09:10 < incubus> holy shit 35 people 09:10 < Exploiter> they wouldn't come though 09:10 < Exploiter> room name gives it away 09:10 < Exploiter> yeah i've never seen more than like 12 people in tinychat 09:10 < Exploiter> this is insane 09:12 < incubus> lol 09:13 < _Digital> wow 09:13 < incubus> lol this is hilarious 09:13 < incubus> I am getting wins 09:13 < leofox> incubus: are you still on the anonnet thing? 09:14 < leofox> I was glined there yesterday :P 09:14 < Exploiter> this tinychat is madness 09:15 < incubus> leofox, wha? 09:15 < leofox> yeah I was glined because I was trolling on some openTTD server 09:15 < leofox> only for like 5 minutes anyway 09:18 < incubus> I wish I wasn't straight, I could fap so hard right now 09:18 < Exploiter> rofl 09:18 < Exploiter> i actually have no idea who pookers is or what her story is 09:19 < incubus> she's a fucking cum dumpster 09:19 < incubus> I kind of want to have sex with her but... then again not 09:19 < incubus> she's a 50/50 maybe if I'm drunk kind of chick 09:19 < Exploiter> what i'm saying is, i'm not sure if she's trans or cis 09:19 < incubus> oh she's real 09:19 < incubus> cis = surgery? 09:19 < Exploiter> cis = real 09:19 < incubus> I don't know the lingo 09:19 < incubus> she's cis then 09:19 < incubus> You can't tuck that shit 09:19 < Exploiter> not sure what cis is short for, but that's what everyone says 09:20 < incubus> Cissors 09:20 < Exploiter> yeah you can 09:20 < incubus> :P 09:20 < Exploiter> and she could have had srs already 09:20 < Exploiter> in that case, you really wouldn't know unless you did blood work 09:20 < incubus> Sascha is the biggest attention whore ever 09:21 < Exploiter> srsly 09:21 < Exploiter> it's her channel 09:21 < Exploiter> we came in and she was being whipped 09:21 < incubus> lol 09:21 < incubus> lmfao 09:22 < incubus> dude I just spit water all over my carpet, lol 09:22 < Exploiter> her gf was whipping her with a belt 09:22 < Exploiter> >.< 09:22 < incubus> lmfao 09:22 -!- DSP_Lord [~darksidep@h148.9.96.216.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has quit [Quit: brb restart] 09:25 < incubus> Exploiter, he's fucking naked 09:25 < incubus> what did you expect 09:25 < Exploiter> lolz 09:27 < incubus> I am trolling! :D 09:29 < Exploiter> fyi, you made all the girls leave by advertising :x 09:30 -!- DSP_Lord [~darksidep@h148.9.96.216.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has joined #tcpa 09:30 <@efneTI92> [DSP_Lord] I'm not a ninja, no idea what you're talking about. 09:32 -!- incubus [incubus__@c-98-199-128-21.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:43 -!- incubus [incubus__@c-98-199-128-21.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 09:44 -!- DSP_Lord [~darksidep@h148.9.96.216.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has quit [] 09:47 -!- Randomist [~Randomist@75.111.209.80] has quit [Quit: http://wintervenom.mine.nu] 09:55 -!- aksnowman [~root@103-103-35-72.mtaonline.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 10:00 < Exploiter> Me: do you even know what /b/ is? - Friend: Not really...:0 - Me: lulz, ever heard of 4chan? - Friend: Anime right? never watched it 10:13 -!- Weegeee is now known as Weegee 10:27 < incubus> lol 10:28 < incubus> really that's close enough 10:28 < Exploiter> incubus, that tinychat is ridiculous 10:28 < Exploiter> i popped back in for a bit and i can't believe the fucking camwhore is still there alone 10:29 < Exploiter> now there's ninjas, shotguns, weed, and /b/tards everywhere 10:29 < Exploiter> oh now there's a 6 shot too 10:30 < incubus> that's all me man 10:30 < incubus> I ruined it 10:30 < incubus> :) 10:30 < incubus> I got all those b'tards to join 10:31 -!- DSP_Lord [~darksidep@h148.9.96.216.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has joined #tcpa 10:32 <@efneTI92> [DSP_Lord] I'm not a ninja, no idea what you're talking about. 10:33 < Exploiter> incubus, /b/tards looks scary :S 10:33 < Exploiter> look* 10:35 < incubus> yup 10:35 < Exploiter> wow incubus, pookers isn't delivering, so they're asking each other to show dick 10:35 < Exploiter> this is ridiculous 10:35 < incubus> they're showing dick so pookers willl delivrar 10:35 < incubus> btw 10:35 < incubus> why did all traps quit 10:36 < Exploiter> cause we're not big fans of trolls 10:36 < Exploiter> or /b/tards 10:36 < Exploiter> i figured my amsg would only bring in a handful of people to liven things up a bit 10:36 < Exploiter> but then you went an advertised and all the sudden we were at 35 10:37 < Exploiter> and i was only inviting on irc so i didn't expect any /b/tards or trolls, but i should have known you were coming :3 10:37 < Exploiter> they're discussing how to meatspin... lulu 10:38 < Exploiter> she admitted to swallowing?... jesus 10:38 < incubus> i'm sorry for ruining your channel 10:39 < incubus> I thought you were inviting me to trol 10:39 < incubus> troll 10:39 < incubus> btw 10:39 < Exploiter> lulz 10:39 < incubus> isn't feolox in this channel 10:39 < incubus> leofox 10:39 < incubus> FFFUUUUUU 10:39 < Exploiter> pretty sure yeah 10:39 < Exploiter> lolz 10:39 < Exploiter> well i was just trying to get some random people to talk to 10:39 < Exploiter> nobody in particular 10:40 < Exploiter> i kinda pissed off the girls :s 10:40 < Exploiter> i just claimed add and begged forgiveness lol 10:40 < Exploiter> i never think about what i'm about to do lul 10:44 < Exploiter> lmao... i can't believe that one guy as a R.O.B 10:47 < incubus> lol 10:48 < incubus> what is a rob 10:48 < incubus> ripe old bastard? 10:48 < Exploiter> it's an snes attachment 10:48 < Exploiter> it moved cd's around or something 10:48 < Exploiter> like some sort of juke box player 10:50 < incubus> FUCK 10:50 < incubus> LEOFOX WENT ON CAM, GET THE FUCK OUT 10:52 < Exploiter> lolz 10:53 < Exploiter> incubus, who is he and why is he in a giant building? lul 10:55 < incubus> leofox is talking shit about me? 10:55 < incubus> has leofox said anything? I might have him on ignore 10:55 < Exploiter> roflmao i just told him you're talking shit about him and he called you an asshole 10:55 < leofox> fucking asshole 10:55 < leofox> hey 10:56 < leofox> Exploiter: you idiot 10:56 < Exploiter> lolwut 10:56 < Exploiter> he's a fag for ruining my tinychat 10:56 < Exploiter> >.< 10:56 < incubus> dude 10:56 < incubus> I thought it was implied that you wanted me to 10:56 < incubus> can you blame me? 10:56 < Exploiter> :O 10:56 < Exploiter> >:O* 10:56 < Exploiter> w/e 10:56 < incubus> I didn't know you were a trap 10:57 < Exploiter> hardly 10:57 < incubus> until I got into trolling 10:57 < incubus> and by then the damage was done 10:57 < Exploiter> it's all good. i was just kiddin 10:57 < Exploiter> it's my own fault for advertising it 10:57 < leofox> what do you think of the building where i work 10:57 < leofox> pretty cool right 10:57 < Exploiter> looks crazy 11:00 < incubus> Exploiter, you think my friend looks like goggle? 11:00 < Exploiter> who? 11:01 < incubus> http://i50.tinypic.com/2en6fys.jpg 11:01 < incubus> goggle 11:01 < incubus> look at goggle 11:01 < incubus> and look at that pic 11:01 < Exploiter> yeah 11:01 < Exploiter> very similar 11:02 < Exploiter> eyes chin nose forhead 11:02 < Exploiter> forehead* 11:02 < incubus> :P 11:02 < incubus> I'm good 11:09 < DSP_Lord> i am so confused. 11:10 < leofox> isnt my work fun 11:11 -!- incubeous [incubus__@c-98-199-128-21.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 11:11 -!- incubeous [incubus__@c-98-199-128-21.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 11:52 < E-J> http://mrbadak.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/internet-made-u-stupid.jpg 11:52 < E-J> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1242056/Teenspeak-youngsters-unemployable-limited-vocabulary.html 11:57 < incubus> 800 words, lies 11:57 <+Neff> y kant kiddz speek gud? 11:58 <+Neff> it's a UK report. they don't speak english properly in england 12:00 < incubus> Eh nao What's arrl dis about eh mate? 12:00 < E-J> well what i have seen, uk english uses more words than american english 12:00 < incubus> E-J, they're both english 12:00 < incubus> that doesn't make sense 12:00 < incubus> I think you mean speakers 12:01 <+Neff> yes 12:01 <+Neff> american english has all the words that UK english has 12:01 <+Neff> we just use them properly 12:01 < incubus> I don't agree with that 12:01 <+Neff> lol 12:01 < incubus> I've seen UK faggots speak just as uneducated as Americans 12:01 < E-J> incubus: yeah, speakers, i'm still little tired 12:02 < E-J> Neff: there are certain words that i hear in tv series and news and such, that uk people use, but americans almost never 12:03 <+Neff> such as? 12:03 < E-J> i can only remember now 'rather' 12:04 <+Neff> we use rather all the time 12:04 < incubus> loquacious? 12:04 <+Neff> rather, a lot of the time 12:04 <+Neff> :P 12:04 < incubus> Insipidly? 12:04 <+Neff> loquacious! that's a good word 12:04 <+Neff> insipidly is another good one 12:05 <+Neff> we don't use those words very much i guess 12:05 < incubus> Americans use "rather" all the time 12:05 < incubus> "Would you rather..." 12:06 < incubus> very common 12:06 <+Neff> yeah 12:06 < incubus> Maybe not so much spoken, with a phrase like "Well, rather, how about we..." 12:06 <+Neff> british probably put more emphasis on it 12:06 < incubus> we would more likely use 'instead' or something 12:06 <+Neff> they might use it a little more as an interjection 12:06 < incubus> Also Brits seem to use 'save' instead of 'except 12:06 < incubus> ' 12:06 <+Neff> for emphasis 12:07 < incubus> There's a lot of people, save for the few who didn't show up. 12:07 < incubus> I rarely hear that in America 12:07 <+Neff> hrm...we use that too but you're right it's not as common as except 12:08 <+Neff> we don't use bloke or bloody as much either :P 12:08 < incubus> Neff, you're American? 12:08 <+Neff> yarsh 12:09 <+Neff> yeah 12:09 < incubus> ever heard the word 'Plucky'? And be honest before you look it up 12:09 < E-J> nope 12:10 <+Neff> i think i've heard it 12:10 < incubus> what does it mean? :P 12:10 < E-J> courageous, brave, daring, high-spirited, audacious 2 bold, plucky, gutsy, spunky, gallant 12:10 < incubus> thanks E-J 12:10 < incubus> I knew what it meant 12:11 < incubus> I saw that on a GRE exam 12:11 < incubus> I've NEVER seen that word used 12:11 < incubus> Even in Literature 12:11 -!- Exploiter [~Sk84Life@c-67-185-40-45.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has left #tcpa [] 12:11 < incubus> it's seldom used 12:12 <+Neff> yeah we don't use plucky as an adjective 12:12 <+Neff> pluck as a verb means to pull out quickly 12:12 < incubus> lol 12:12 < incubus> ya 12:12 <+Neff> liking plucking feathers from a bird 12:13 < incubus> Pluck my eyebrows 12:13 < incubus> pluck a string 12:13 <+Neff> yes 12:13 <+Neff> pluck a hair off yer bloody arse mate 12:14 < incubus> ew 12:44 < E-J> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pYtxD92SpY 12:56 < incubus> lol 13:20 < nicolas> hey peeps 13:28 -!- dankidd [~dankid@72.131.125.188] has quit [] 13:56 <+jr19> hey 14:03 -!- \BAF64\ [ferrisr@cpe-74-67-34-29.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa 14:03 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v \BAF64\] by efneTI92 14:10 -!- \\BAF\IRC [ferrisr@cpe-74-67-34-29.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 14:12 < asmand> E-J: http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/sielta_se_halme_loytyy.jpg 14:12 < asmand> ' 14:21 -!- nicolas_ [~nicolas@89.83.211.223] has joined #tcpa 14:23 -!- nicolas [~nicolas@89.83.211.223] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 14:50 -!- Buckeye [~Poweruser@c-24-16-240-132.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Leaving.] 14:56 <+ports_> hi 14:57 <+ports_> anyone want to see my porsche lol 14:59 <@BrandonW> Apparently not. 15:05 < sir_lewk> http://mobile.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=10/01/12/134225 ahahaha 15:06 < sir_lewk> ports_: that is perverted, keep it in your pants 15:11 -!- Markus92 [~markusjan@cable-232-119.zeelandnet.nl] has joined #tcpa 15:12 -!- aksnowman [~root@85-227-137-216.mtaonline.net] has joined #tcpa 15:15 -!- Randomist [~Randomist@75.111.209.80] has joined #tcpa 15:15 <@efneTI92> [Randomist] CAUTION: Exposure to this user may cause neurological damage. 15:38 -!- DSP_Lord [~darksidep@h148.9.96.216.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has quit [] 15:42 -!- DSP_Lord [~darksidep@h199.218.31.71.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has joined #tcpa 15:42 -!- ports_ [~ports@inserthere.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 380 seconds] 15:50 < bsparks> Good riddance 15:50 -!- blankie [~myname@d207-6-186-113.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 380 seconds] 15:54 <@BrandonW> I almost feel sorry for him. 15:54 -!- blankie [~myname@d207-6-186-113.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #tcpa 15:54 <@BrandonW> ...almost. 15:56 < bsparks> I feel sorry for him, in the way you feel sorry for the CEO that ends up cheating on his wife and taking illegal salary bonuses and loses his family, house, job, and car. :p 15:56 < DSP_Lord> i don't feel shit. 15:57 < bsparks> DSP_Lord, heart harder than nails? 15:57 < DSP_Lord> heart full of black, one could say. 15:57 < bsparks> Indeed 15:57 < bsparks> That'd kill you though 15:57 < DSP_Lord> nah, the deathsticks will. 15:57 < bsparks> I mean, a heart full carcinogenious cancer? 15:58 < DSP_Lord> lungs first, but yeah. 15:58 <@BrandonW> Hey, you want to buy some death sticks? 15:58 * Tari was just thinking that 15:58 <@BrandonW> *waves hand* You don't want to sell me death sticks. 15:59 <@BrandonW> *waves hand* You want to go home and rethink your life. 15:59 < DSP_Lord> BrandonW++; 15:59 < Tari> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Elan_Sel%27Sabagno 15:59 < DSP_Lord> that guy has a name? 15:59 <@chronomex> good morning, friends 15:59 < Tari> yes >.< 15:59 <@chronomex> what's new? 16:00 < DSP_Lord> just the usual general despising of ports, as per usual. 16:00 < bsparks> I'm trying to find a ride and cash to go to a concert on the 16th 16:01 < Randomist> char * stuff = new char [42]; 16:02 <+jr19> what concert bsparks 16:02 < bsparks> Quick question, how in the hell does the "http://to./" URL shortner actually function o.0 16:02 < bsparks> jr19, just a few local bands all playing at a venue near here 16:02 <@chronomex> bsparks: it's a TLD with an A record, basically 16:02 <@chronomex> I think there's another, but I don't remember what it is 16:02 <+jr19> ah ok 16:03 < Tari> gets(stuff); SEGFAULT 16:03 <@chronomex> Tari: not in all situations :) 16:03 < Tari> but you should probably assume it will 16:03 < Tari> and never use gets 16:03 < Tari> if security and stability matter at all, that is 16:03 < bsparks> chronomex, it just boggles my mind. A little. 16:04 <@chronomex> bsparks: yeah, me too 16:04 -!- boscop [~boscop@g225205059.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #tcpa 16:04 < bsparks> I am also wondering why nobody has jumped on, say, http://i./ 16:04 <@chronomex> because i. isn't allocated? 16:04 < bsparks> True 16:05 <@chronomex> it's actualy fairly hard to get a TLD allocated to you :) 16:05 <@chronomex> hrm 16:05 <@chronomex> maybe I should try anyway 16:05 < bsparks> you should make a URL shortener http://i./ 16:05 < bsparks> cause, I'd use it :) 16:06 <@chronomex> yeah 16:06 <@chronomex> that'd be short 16:06 < bsparks> I don't think you'd be able to get shorter 16:06 <@chronomex> and then you could have @i. email addresses 16:06 < Randomist> One more character is too much? 16:06 < Randomist> :P 16:06 < bsparks> chronomex, an @i. email address would be awesome 16:06 <@chronomex> yeah 16:07 <@chronomex> I keep meaning to buy lo.af so then my email address can be me@lo.af 16:07 <@chronomex> but buying names from afghanistan is sort of a pain 16:07 -!- DSP_Lord [~darksidep@h199.218.31.71.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:07 <@chronomex> you have to fax the form in and send money by wire transfer 16:07 <@BrandonW> lol 16:07 < Tari> hah 16:07 < bsparks> But I think "i" is the shortest c- that.. is genius... anyway. I don't think even with the unicode URLs that anything is shorter than "i" 16:07 <@BrandonW> That's genius. 16:08 < bsparks> chronomex, how hard is it to renew though? Same deal? 16:08 -!- Markus92 [~markusjan@cable-232-119.zeelandnet.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 16:08 <@chronomex> bsparks: same deal 16:08 <@chronomex> and you have to fax the form to change nameservers, because apparently they do it all manually 16:08 < bsparks> can you buy it on a 10yr plan? :D 16:08 -!- rcfreak0 [~rcfreak0@adsl-68-254-168-90.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net] has joined #tcpa 16:08 <@chronomex> yeah, I think you can prepay 16:08 <@chronomex> er oh wait 16:08 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v rcfreak0] by efneTI81 16:08 < bsparks> Just buy it for 10 years then? 16:08 <@chronomex> they accept emailed pdf forms now 16:08 <@chronomex> but their pdf isn't a form, you have to print/scan 16:09 <@chronomex> bsparks: it's a bit pricey, $200 signup and $50/yr 16:09 < bsparks> eesh 16:09 <@chronomex> but, you know 16:09 <@chronomex> lo.af. 16:09 < bsparks> definately 16:12 -!- Markus92 [~markusjan@cable-232-119.zeelandnet.nl] has joined #tcpa 16:12 < bsparks> !t Welcome to Discovery One, Dave. | First GameBoy emulator test on TI-Nspire calculator! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Rg4RdN2FAU | I'm afraid I can't do that. 16:12 -!- efneTI86 changed the topic of #tcpa to: Welcome to Discovery One, Dave. | First GameBoy emulator test on TI-Nspire calculator! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Rg4RdN2FAU | I'm afraid I can't do that. 16:13 <@chronomex> no, it's "I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that." 16:13 < bsparks> beh 16:13 <@chronomex> :P 16:13 <@BrandonW> I'm tempted to buy it. 16:13 <@chronomex> buy what? 16:14 < Randomist> Do it! 16:14 < bsparks> BrandonW should start buying ".se" domain names >_> 16:14 <@chronomex> lo.se ? 16:14 < bsparks> No, 83p.se 84p.se >_> 16:14 <@chronomex> that'd be awesome 16:14 <@BrandonW> Genius. 16:15 <@chronomex> both available 16:15 <@chronomex> at least according to whois 16:15 < bsparks> Simply because I don't think 83.p is a valid URL yet 16:15 * chronomex --> bus 16:15 <@chronomex> seeyall 16:16 * Randomist goes off to make music. 16:16 <@BrandonW> HAHAHA, I'm going to buy them. 16:16 -!- ports_ [~ports@inserthere.net] has joined #tcpa 16:16 < ports_> there 16:17 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v ports_] by SnowCrash, efneTI85 16:17 <+ports_> irssi froze on me 16:20 -!- KermM [~KermM@cpe-74-66-230-83.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: no data for 492 seconds] 16:26 -!- DSP_Lord [~darksidep@h98.100.141.67.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has joined #tcpa 16:26 <@efneTI92> [DSP_Lord] I'm not a ninja, no idea what you're talking about. 16:27 < Randomist> Irssi fr...? 16:28 <+jr19> what 16:33 < Randomist> [Lil' Jon:] Okay! 16:33 < DSP_Lord> !k Randomist no. 16:33 -!- Randomist was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [DSP_Lord: no.] 16:33 < Kyurel> well, there goes the disruption. 16:33 -!- Randomist [~Randomist@75.111.209.80] has joined #tcpa 16:34 < bsparks> http://i.imgur.com/GZX4I.jpg 16:34 -!- Spengo [~Spengo@64.251.247.205] has joined #tcpa 16:34 < Randomist> Geometry fail. 16:35 < bsparks> That isn't... ... 16:36 < Randomist> [Dramatic drumroll...] 16:36 < bsparks> !k gefo and stay there 16:36 < bsparks> !k Randomist gtfo and stay there 16:36 -!- Randomist was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [Zeromus: gtfo and stay there] 16:36 < Kyurel> well, there goes the disruption. 16:36 -!- Randomist [~Randomist@75.111.209.80] has joined #tcpa 16:36 < bsparks> Kyurel, is that a script? 16:36 -!- Barrett [~Barrett@75-165-232-19.slkc.qwest.net] has joined #tcpa 16:36 < Randomist> bsparks: Yes. 16:36 < bsparks> Randomist, is Kyurel a BOT? 16:36 < Randomist> He's been doing that since yesterday. 16:37 < bsparks> Kyurel, identify yourself. 16:37 < Randomist> !test 16:38 < bsparks> !k Kyurel no scripts, fix that before you return, thanks! :) 16:38 -!- Kyurel was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [Zeromus: no scripts, fix that before you return, thanks! :)] 16:40 < Randomist> Well, there goes the disruption. :P 16:48 -!- KermM [~KermM@dhcp73.ee.cooper.edu] has joined #tcpa 16:48 <@efneTI92> [KermM] http://www.cemetech.net :: Leading The Way to the Future 16:54 -!- Markus92 [~markusjan@cable-232-119.zeelandnet.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 16:57 -!- Markus92 [~markusjan@cable-232-119.zeelandnet.nl] has joined #tcpa 16:58 -!- KermM [~KermM@dhcp73.ee.cooper.edu] has left #tcpa [] 17:00 < bsparks> Man, I wish I could go to a telephone museum 17:01 -!- krisk [~krisk@j239072.upc-j.chello.nl] has joined #tcpa 17:01 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v krisk] by efneTI92 17:02 < bsparks> You know, it's a shame nobody has made a non terminal based text-only browser for modern *nix based systems 17:03 -!- Goplat [~goplat@adsl-69-107-70-22.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #tcpa 17:03 <+krisk> what about a web based webbrowser 17:03 < bsparks> ... 17:03 <+krisk> that'd be easy to make cross platform and text only 17:03 < bsparks> Then you have to deal with loading and running the initial web browser 17:04 <+ports_> sigh 17:04 <+ports_> i just got a quote for a used machine.. $79,500.00 17:04 <+ports_> i emailed her back and offered $19,500.00 17:04 -!- Mwyann [~Mwy@lns-bzn-46-82-253-252-154.adsl.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 17:04 <+ports_> what do you think the reply will be? 17:04 <+krisk> yes 17:04 <+krisk> because 1 = 7 17:05 <+ports_> krisk: I was thinking "fuck you" 17:05 < bsparks> "haha, no. gtfo. bai" 17:05 <+krisk> what kind of used machine anyway? 17:05 <+ports_> a spray dryer 17:06 <+ports_> theyre really cool machines.. they circulate really hot air.. and you spray in some liquid stream that has something dissolved in it.... and out it hits the hot air and instantly evaporates the liquid.. and you get powder out of the bottom of the machine 17:06 <+ports_> usually the stuff that comes out of there is really fluffy.. it looks like cotton balls... or that fake fluffy christmas snow stuff 17:13 <+jr19> cotton candy mmmmm 17:13 -!- Kaeru [ba0f1c3e@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #tcpa 17:13 <+jr19> such a nutritionally poor food, but it is pretty tasty 17:14 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Kaeru] by SnowCrash, |Remius| 17:15 -!- DrDnar [~Ander@c-24-35-66-83.customer.broadstripe.net] has joined #tcpa 17:19 -!- Mwyann [~Mwy@lns-bzn-22-82-249-96-105.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #tcpa 17:30 -!- _NF_ [chatzilla@dD577530F.access.telenet.be] has joined #tcpa 17:31 < nikky> http://emailsfromcrazypeople.com/2010/01/12/impossible/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+EFCP+(Emails+From+Crazy+People) 17:33 -!- Barrett [~Barrett@75-165-232-19.slkc.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:50 <+krisk> old copy pasta is old 17:51 <+krisk> also, time to watch more community 17:51 <+krisk> also, there damn well better be more seasons than 1 17:52 <+jr19> have you ever watched that Chuck show 17:53 <+krisk> never heard of it 17:54 <+jr19> hmmm ok 17:54 <+jr19> it's about some guy who works in an electronics store who is actually a spy 17:55 <+jr19> my mom is obsessed with it apparently and supposedly it is good 17:56 < bsparks> I wish lynx/links/elinks/links2 was more like http://homepage.mac.com/senorwences/colorclassic/images/wannabe.jpg 18:04 -!- _NF_ is now known as NF 18:06 <+jr19> maybe you need WebbIE 18:08 <+jr19> but i think that's more for blind people 18:08 < E-J> bsparks: have you tried that japanese made text browser? 18:08 < bsparks> E-J, w3m? 18:09 < bsparks> I haven't been able to because I'm forced to compile it from source and lack the tools for that 18:09 < E-J> yes 18:13 <+jr19> E-J: did you see the video i posted on facebook 18:16 < E-J> nope, i'm trying to read for the exam 18:16 <+jr19> psssh. exams. 18:17 < E-J> well, yes, but without them i can't graduate 18:17 <+jr19> heh 18:36 -!- Tyler2 [~nexon@residence-232-86.mschaffer.ualberta.ca] has joined #tcpa 18:36 <@efneTI92> [Tyler2] I no longer speak fluent dialup. 18:36 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Tyler2] by efneTI81 18:38 -!- NF [chatzilla@dD577530F.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: Bye all, probably had to hurry if this message appears without I said Bye D:] 19:00 -!- smealum [~smealum@smea.servebeer.com] has quit [] 19:02 -!- Michael_V [michael@ip68-109-186-79.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #tcpa 19:02 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Michael_V] by efneTI92, efneTI86 19:03 <+Michael_V> That's an amazing video 19:03 <+Michael_V> We've been waiting for a ready to use exploit to post ticalc.org news 19:14 -!- Michael_V [michael@ip68-109-186-79.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [] 19:19 < bsparks> It... damnit MV 19:20 -!- geekboy [~geekboy@nvm2u.com] has quit [i eat you all muwahahahahahaha] 19:24 < E-J> Michael "faster than speed of light" Vincent 19:24 < bsparks> Obviously nobody gave him the "don't post on ticalc.org" memo 19:38 < bsparks> I have a random question. Kinda. Is the man that we see shooting at the mayor that is SUPPOSED to be the joker sans makup, really Heath Ledger? 19:38 < bsparks> in The Dark Knight 19:40 <+krisk> that was sooo 2009 19:40 < bsparks> ehh, watching it again 19:48 <+ports_> lol 19:48 <+ports_> bsparks: she replied 19:48 <+ports_> she said no 19:49 < bsparks> ports_, why are you talking to me? And what about again? 19:49 <+ports_> bsparks: you wanna go for a ride in my porsche? 19:57 -!- Barrett [~Barrett@75-165-245-190.slkc.qwest.net] has joined #tcpa 20:02 <+krisk> can you use vista drivers on 7? 20:02 <+krisk> for like, laptop wifi? 20:02 < bsparks> I thought so 20:02 <+ports_> yes 20:02 <+krisk> how? 20:03 < E-J> doubleclick driver 20:03 <+ports_> manually specify it 20:03 <+krisk> oh ok 20:03 <+ports_> advanced options > point it at the INF 20:03 <+krisk> hmhmm 20:03 <+krisk> cool thanks 20:03 <@_Auron_> yer 20:06 <+jr19> still trying to get your friend's laptop working? 20:06 <+krisk> oh it works 20:07 <+krisk> but wifi is at 11.8mbit so i thought maybe she should install the vista drivers since hp hasnt made drivers for 7 yet 20:08 <+jr19> i didnt know if vista drivers would work for 7 since when looking at printer drivers earlier, they had separate listings for vista/7 20:08 <+jr19> and some had drivers for vista, but not for 7 20:08 -!- smealum [~smealum@smea.servebeer.com] has joined #tcpa 20:09 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v smealum] by efneTI81, |Remius| 20:11 <+jr19> some products that is 20:23 -!- waeyn [~wayne@ool-ad03ce08.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #tcpa 20:23 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v waeyn] by efneTI81 20:27 -!- Tari [~tari@emcnair-77-67.resnet.mtu.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:32 -!- Tari [~tari@emcnair-77-67.resnet.mtu.edu] has joined #tcpa 21:04 <+krisk> The Pacific looks like itll be a cool movie 21:04 <+krisk> miniseries 21:04 <+krisk> i mean 21:07 <+jr19> never heard of it 21:08 <+krisk> its like badn of brothers, but.. wel in the pacific 21:09 * Randomist can't wait to have campus Internet again. 21:10 <+jr19> ah i understand 21:10 < Randomist> The upload bandwidth sucks here. Everything gets throttled to between forty and sixty kilobytes. And downloading gets extra slow while uploading. 21:10 <+jr19> my connection gets the same way 21:11 <+jr19> very annoying 21:18 -!- Tribal [~Tribal@pa-76-2-65-215.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #tcpa 21:21 -!- Tahben [~chatzilla@ip70-162-174-179.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #tcpa 21:21 * Randomist stabs Last.fm's music uploader thing-a-ma-jigger. 21:22 < Randomist> It makes you have to upload everything twice. :( 21:22 < Tahben> so are you going to stab it twice then? 21:24 < sir_lewk> hola Tahben 21:25 -!- Tribal [~Tribal@pa-76-2-65-215.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:25 -!- Tribal [~Tribal@pa-76-2-65-215.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #tcpa 21:26 < Tahben> sup sir_lewk 21:26 < sir_lewk> bored at work 21:26 < Tahben> you and you wacky music-listening people 21:27 <+jr19> i would stab it twice 21:28 < sir_lewk> i would stab it thrice 21:29 < sir_lewk> and I win that discussion, because nobody can top me 21:29 < Tahben> I admit, I have to turn to dj earworm to find out what the popular hits are 21:29 < sir_lewk> there is no word for "four times" 21:29 < Tahben> No, I win, because I'm the woman. 21:29 < sir_lewk> aww 21:29 < sir_lewk> that is cheating 21:29 < Tahben> lest you fergit 21:30 < sir_lewk> you bring it up rather often ;) 21:30 <+krisk> how do women ever win? 21:31 < Tahben> well let Jonah Falcon undo that for you. 21:31 < sir_lewk> no idea who that is 21:31 < Tahben> let me show you my uterus, krisk, then you will understand. 21:31 < Tahben> SAFESEARCH:HOLYCRAP, sir_lewk. 21:32 <+krisk> having a uterus sounds like another loss to me 21:32 < Tahben> Yeah, I can't think of the advantages to having one either. 21:33 <+krisk> watching The Road now 21:33 <@_Auron_> lol. 21:35 < Randomist> http://ia341342.us.archive.org/1/items/WintervenomAudioCollection/ScottGarrett-MonstrosityversionThree.ogg 21:37 <+jr19> Monstrosity would be a word that might applyl to jonah falcon 21:37 <+jr19> apply* 21:38 < Tahben> Indeed terrifying. 21:40 <+krisk> this must be the gloomiest movie ever made 21:43 <@_Auron_> http://darkauron.dyshost.com/Files/Video/The_Master.avi 21:47 < leofox> haha I'm watching a presentation about weight loss 21:47 <+krisk> lulz 21:47 < leofox> It's actually quite interesting 21:47 * Randomist goes off to move from drawing music to drawing artwork. 21:48 < leofox> I havent heard anything new though 21:48 < leofox> their "trick" is probably doing really fast strength excercises to put your body into burn fat mode 21:49 < leofox> they keep nagging on and on 21:49 <+jr19> you're watching it on tv? 21:49 < leofox> I guess they're going to say at the end you have to buy their book 21:49 < leofox> jr19: no some ad website 21:50 < leofox> it's called fat burning furnace, they advertise everywhere 21:50 <+krisk> haha 21:50 -!- Tahben [~chatzilla@ip70-162-174-179.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:51 -!- Fidchell [~Tribal@pa-76-2-65-215.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #tcpa 21:51 -!- Fidchell [~Tribal@pa-76-2-65-215.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has quit [Client Quit] 21:53 <+jr19> so you turn the heat up in your house really high then move around a lot and burn fat? 21:53 < Randomist> Do you want to lose weight, and happen to be a (suicidal) masochist? Drop-Dead Fitness® would like to introduce you to Die in a Fire™ -- the fastest way to shed pounds and die a painful death! 21:53 <+jr19> i bet i could get down to 6% body fat that way and just be RIPPED 21:53 <+krisk> with no lean body mass yeah 21:53 < leofox> stupid website :P 21:54 <+jr19> heh 21:54 < leofox> someone once told me that cardio is a bad way of losing weight 21:54 < leofox> because it makes your mucles more efficient, so you're burning even less 21:54 <+jr19> from what i understand, weight isn't really a good indication of fitness 21:55 < leofox> I guess it's also a bad way to gain weight because you dont really build muscles 21:55 < leofox> it's great for your stamina though 21:55 <+krisk> leofox that is correct but cardio works on the cardiovascular system, so as that becomes more efficient itll take more and more effort to get the same improvements 21:55 <+jr19> i get decent cardio work usually 5 days a week 21:55 <+krisk> diminishing returns 21:56 -!- Markus92 [~markusjan@cable-232-119.zeelandnet.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 21:56 <+krisk> cardio is only for training the cardiovascular system for endurance 21:56 < leofox> hey a dutch guy just quit 21:56 -!- smealum [~smealum@smea.servebeer.com] has quit [] 21:56 <+krisk> zeelanders tellen niet 21:56 <+krisk> net als friezen 21:56 < leofox> mja true 21:56 < leofox> long distance running is cardio right? 21:56 <+krisk> yeah 21:56 < leofox> and short distance? 21:57 <+krisk> sprints are different 21:57 < leofox> I like running though 21:57 <+jr19> anything that elevates your heart rate through physical exertion is kinda considered cardio isn't it? 21:57 <+jr19> or does it have to be elevated for a certain amount of time 21:57 < leofox> last year I ran to school all the time because I didnt have a bike 21:57 <+krisk> there are grey areas 21:57 <+jr19> weren't you sweaty when you got to school 21:57 < leofox> jr19: I changed clothes before class 21:58 <+krisk> weightlifting for an hour works cardio but nobody considers it cardio 21:58 < leofox> kinda sucked because I was running with a bag full of clothes 21:58 <+jr19> heh 21:58 <+krisk> in fact, weightlifting gives beginners an equal cardio improvement as cardio centered training does 21:58 <+jr19> krisk: btw, i took that stuff yesterday, and i ran a little bit before hand just for a full body warmup 21:58 < leofox> well basically just a spare t-shirt and a vest but still 21:58 <+jr19> and i got super dizzy at almost a mile of running 21:58 <+krisk> fun 21:59 <+jr19> and felt strange, but after stopping, i felt normal again 21:59 <+jr19> so i'm not going to take that stuff at all anymore 21:59 < leofox> what did you take? 21:59 <+jr19> superpump 250 21:59 < leofox> protein shake or something? 21:59 < leofox> it's not like I'd recognize an american fitness brand 21:59 < leofox> or any fitness brand 21:59 <+jr19> no 22:00 <+jr19> creatine+nitric oxide+caffeine and other random shit i'm sure 22:00 < leofox> yesterday I carried a heavy chair over campus, and now my arms hurt kinda 22:01 < leofox> I wish my arms were stronger :P 22:03 <+krisk> weight loss = eat lots of protein, no shitty food, be active, drink water 22:04 <+jr19> krisk has a point 22:04 < sir_lewk> I've decided to preform an experiment where I see how long I can live off of $200 22:05 <+jr19> like people who are doing 10000 crunches a day to try to get good abs 22:05 < sir_lewk> (everything except rent) 22:05 <+jr19> they're made in the kitchen, not in the weight room 22:05 < Randomist> sir_lewk: Buy and sell. 22:05 < Randomist> Risky. But you might win in the end. 22:05 <+krisk> weight gain = eat even more lots protein, be active, drink water 22:05 < sir_lewk> Randomist: this is primarily an exersize in learning to grocery shop for less 22:06 <+krisk> jr19: weight room helps, crunches dont really 22:06 < sir_lewk> and to spend less on luxury items 22:07 < sir_lewk> going to try eating healthily for cheap too though 22:07 < sir_lewk> also, eating far less 22:07 <+jr19> well weight room helps 22:08 <+jr19> i'm just saying that if you want ab definition, you're probably going to have to eat better 22:08 <+krisk> definition is low fat % 22:08 < sir_lewk> if you develop a muscle mass that'll help you burn fat too 22:09 < sir_lewk> I think I'm going to start swimming in the spring 22:09 <+krisk> big abs is stabilizing difficult movements like lifting heavy shit or gymnastic stuff 22:09 <+jr19> well yes, big abs, most people just want their six pack omg 22:10 < sir_lewk> big abs are for sex appeal :) 22:11 <+krisk> big abs are for gymnasts and bodybuilders on roids 22:11 < Tari> swimming is win 22:14 < sir_lewk> indeed 22:14 -!- ports_ was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [request] 22:14 < sir_lewk> O.o 22:14 < bsparks> o.0 22:14 < leofox> huh 22:14 < leofox> did ports even say anything 22:14 < bsparks> I don't think so lol 22:14 < sir_lewk> not for the past hour or so at least 22:14 < sir_lewk> who even did that? 22:15 <+jr19> efneTI86 of course 22:15 < leofox> I think andy 22:15 < sir_lewk> I blame Cricket_B 22:15 -!- leofox was kicked from #tcpa by Andy_J [sure blame the person who has been idle for hours and just got home <_<] 22:15 -!- leofox [leofox@leofox.student.utwente.nl] has joined #tcpa 22:15 < bsparks> hahaha 22:15 < sir_lewk> lol 22:16 < leofox> the fuck 22:16 <@Andy_J> t'wasn't me 22:16 < sir_lewk> someone is in a kicky mood 22:16 <@Andy_J> I'm man enough to do it in the channel. 22:16 -!- Tribal [~Tribal@pa-76-2-65-215.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:16 * sir_lewk looks at nikky 22:16 < bsparks> Andy_J, the ops don't hurt either 22:17 <+krisk> and bitchy enough to kick people :) 22:17 -!- Tribal [~Tribal@pa-76-2-65-215.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #tcpa 22:28 < E-J> hmmm, apparently my basic tax rate has gone lower but surtax rate has risen 22:28 -!- Kaeru [ba0f1c3e@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 22:29 -!- glk [glk@adsl-70-234-145-198.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net] has joined #tcpa 22:29 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v glk] by etaonrish 22:30 <+jr19> my federal tax rate went up and state tax went down 22:30 <+jr19> i get $4 less in my paycheck every two weeks :( 22:32 < bsparks> why is there ports_ and ports? 22:32 -!- glk [glk@adsl-70-234-145-198.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 22:33 < E-J> maybe this is because i have got tax refunds every year 22:33 <+jr19> one is irssi and one is znc 22:33 < E-J> jr19: what do that mean, 1 beer less in week? 22:34 -!- glk [glk@adsl-70-234-145-198.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net] has joined #tcpa 22:34 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v glk] by efneTI85, efneTI81 22:34 < E-J> now it's good to live in country where is progressive tax rate 22:34 < bsparks> jr19, that's lame 22:34 < E-J> <3 9% 22:35 < Randomist> Time to back that thing up. 22:35 < Randomist> [hard drive] 22:36 < bsparks> Who uses ZNC, and then DOESN"T actually use ZNC? 22:36 <+jr19> i think it depends on where he's at 22:37 < bsparks> Why should it? 22:37 <+jr19> he irssis from work i think, and bounces from home 22:37 <+jr19> since it's encrypted through ssh at work 22:37 < bsparks> If you have ZNC running, you can log into it from anywhere though 22:38 -!- NF [chatzilla@dD577530F.access.telenet.be] has joined #tcpa 22:38 <+jr19> i think he just doesnt want them sniffing his traffic at work 22:38 <+jr19> afaik, if you use mirc to connect to znc, they can sniff all the commands you send to the bouncer 22:38 < bsparks> why not use irssi to get to znc 22:38 <+jr19> quickly figuring out that it's irc traffic 22:38 <+jr19> why would he use irssi to get to znc if they're both on the same server 22:39 -!- JoeYoung [~Joe@c-98-200-24-14.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 22:39 <+jr19> that'd be kinda redundant i'd think 22:39 <+jr19> i gotta leave work, see ya later 22:48 -!- NF [chatzilla@dD577530F.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: Bye all, probably had to hurry if this message appears without I said Bye D:] 22:51 -!- leofox [leofox@leofox.student.utwente.nl] has quit [] 22:58 < E-J> jr19: http://yle.fi/uutiset/news/2010/01/finland_enjoys_rare_breathtaking_winter_landscape_1363533.html 22:59 < DrDnar> Ten miles south of here got half an inch of snow last night, and all we got was a light dusting. 23:00 <+ix_> is that rare? quite common here in norway 23:00 < DrDnar> Maybe closer to an inch. 23:00 < DrDnar> Snow hates us. 23:05 <+krisk> weve had quite a few inches lying everywhere for a few weeks now <3 23:15 -!- Tribal [~Tribal@pa-76-2-65-215.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:18 -!- LordMathi [~darksidep@h135.4.170.216.ip.windstream.net] has joined #tcpa 23:18 -!- DSP_Lord [~darksidep@h98.100.141.67.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 615 seconds] 23:19 <+ix_> I ment the phenomenon described on yle.fi 23:20 < E-J> ix_: well, there is some scandinavia which is blocking most of those coming here 23:20 <+ix_> just the other day temperature here was -27 degrees celsius when I woke up :/ 23:20 <+ix_> oh, the horror 23:20 * ix_ starts dreaming about sandy beaches and cool wine 23:20 <+ix_> that's -16.6 degrees stupidheit, by the way 23:21 < E-J> though i thank you everytime there is some storm coming from west and it is always worse to denmark, sweden and norway than finland :) 23:21 <+ix_> Hehe. 23:21 < DrDnar> I prefer Kelvins. 23:21 < E-J> last week it was all the time about -20C here, now it's nice -3 23:22 < DrDnar> 246 K 23:23 < E-J> ix_: you live in oslo right? little souther than espoo 23:23 < DrDnar> Or I could demand Randines. 23:23 < DrDnar> Rankines* 23:24 <+ix_> E-J: nah, I live in Trondheim 23:24 <+ix_> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1f/Norway_Counties_S%C3%B8r-Tr%C3%B8ndelag_Position.svg 23:24 < E-J> ah there 23:25 < E-J> looks that it is very nice in summer 23:25 <+ix_> about the same latitude as Reykjavík, IIRC 23:25 < E-J> though winter also http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiedosto:Vinterdomen2.jpg 23:26 <+ix_> yeah, it's quite nice 23:26 <+ix_> winter still wins, though: http://www.vad1.com/photo/stock/a9-19-4.jpg 23:26 <+ix_> aurora borealis over uni :-p 23:28 -!- Tribal [~Tribal@pa-76-2-65-215.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #tcpa 23:29 < E-J> about same latitude as vaasa apparently 23:30 < E-J> i have seen small aurora borealis here south some night, greenish sky 23:30 <+ix_> that's that finno-swedish thing, right? 23:31 -!- Tahben [~chatzilla@ip70-162-174-179.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #tcpa 23:32 <+ix_> sounds like Wasa (Wasabröd, crispbread and such) :p 23:32 < E-J> Vaasa is finnish town at österbotten, swedish name is Vasa and yes name comes from that family of kings 23:33 <+ix_> I think I know some people who visited ABB there 23:33 <+ix_> that's probably why 23:34 < E-J> yeah, there is university which have technical faculty 23:34 < E-J> about aurora borealis, this street's swedish name where i live is Norrskensvägen 23:35 <+ix_> :-) 23:37 -!- boscop [~boscop@g225205059.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Gxis revido!] 23:42 < E-J> hmm, apparently trondheim also has big university that was merged from some smaller parts 23:43 < E-J> though this where i study merged officially 12 days ago and has bigger part technical students than trondheim's 23:45 <@BrandonW> Kids...my Nspire is executing arbitrary ARM code. 23:52 -!- Merth|G1 [~Android@m465a36d0.tmodns.net] has joined #tcpa 23:52 <+ix_> hehe 23:52 < Merth|G1> airrrrrrrport 23:52 < Merth|G1> fucking detroit 23:53 < Merth|G1> _Auron_: is the g1 not going to get 2.1? 23:53 <@_Auron_> probably not 23:53 <@_Auron_> also, 23:53 <+Genolo> oh shit 23:53 < Merth|G1> dammmmit 23:53 <+Genolo> i can't fix my screen brightness anymore 23:53 <@_Auron_> I got the idea of using Tiny Dude as mascot/symbol for Retrid 23:53 < Merth|G1> oooh I like that 23:53 <@_Auron_> yeah. 23:53 -!- krisk [~krisk@j239072.upc-j.chello.nl] has quit [] 23:54 < Merth|G1> so what's a good android phone with a real keyboard that will get 2.1? 23:54 < sir_lewk> I need a new bear of honey 23:54 < sir_lewk> this one is almost dry 23:54 < Merth|G1> <3 honey bears 23:55 <@_Auron_> Merth|G1: droid or nexus one 23:55 <@_Auron_> nexus one firmware can be dropped onto the droid with some hacking iirc 23:55 <@_Auron_> and N1 is 2.1 23:55 < Merth|G1> nexus one has full keyboard? does tmobile have it? 23:55 <@_Auron_> I bet AT&T will come out with a 2.1 phone this year, since they have 5 of them planned 23:55 <@_Auron_> oh wait, no 23:55 <@_Auron_> just droid then 23:55 -!- KermM [~KermM@dhcp73.ee.cooper.edu] has joined #tcpa 23:55 <@efneTI92> [KermM] http://www.cemetech.net :: Leading The Way to the Future 23:55 <@_Auron_> missed the keyboard part 23:56 < Merth|G1> and droid is verizon right? 23:56 <@_Auron_> yes 23:56 < Merth|G1> yeah I need a keyboard 23:56 < Merth|G1> fuck. come on t-mobile 23:56 <@_Auron_> there may be a GSM version coming to t-mobile within the next 18 months though 23:56 <@_Auron_> heh 23:56 < Merth|G1> woo 23:56 -!- Tahben [~chatzilla@ip70-162-174-179.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:57 < Merth|G1> guess I'll just have to wait 23:57 < Merth|G1> :( 23:57 < sir_lewk> I tried to do "1 bear of honey to liters" on google but it didn't recognize it as a unit :( 23:57 < Merth|G1> damn 23:58 < Merth|G1> that would be great. try wolfram alpha :) 23:58 < sir_lewk> ohh, good idea 23:58 <@_Auron_> haha 23:59 < sir_lewk> nope :( 23:59 < bsparks> argh 23:59 < bsparks> I wish I had the $10 to buy this album --- Log closed Wed Jan 13 00:00:13 2010