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--- Day changed Sat Jan 02 2010
00:00 <+kirsk> we also have a linux fanboy
00:00 <+kirsk> 2 actually
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00:10 <@Andy_J> Geno`-`: the automatic updates thing is right on system properties :|
00:10 <@Andy_J> it isn't horrible at all
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00:16 < cemeyer> bye all
00:16 < cemeyer> be back sometime
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00:21 <@nikky> hi
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00:22 <+kirsk> am i too lost
00:22 <+kirsk> to be saved?
00:23 < Randomist> Genolo:  [Super]-[Pause].  :P
00:23 <+kirsk> am i too looost?
00:24 < Randomist> Does FLAC have tags to notate Creative Commons and all that?
00:24 <@nikky> dunno
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00:24 <@nikky> it has tags...
00:25 < Jonimus> You could put it in the note/comments feild
00:25 < Jonimus> or it may support custom Tags like MP3 IDv3 tags do
00:26 <+kirsk> whats a good tag editor that does mp3 and flac?
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00:27 < Randomist> kirsk:  EasyTAG?
00:30 <+kirsk> gtk : (
00:31 < Randomist> Oh, right.  [Cringes at Windows GTK.]
00:38 <+kirsk> I enjoyed S Darko btw
00:39 < Jonimus> Randomist, and on Win7 GTK seems very unstable
00:40 < Jonimus> at least Pidgin which was perfectly stable on Vista has been crashing much more on Win7 along with x-chat seeming more unstable
00:40 < Merthsoft> xchat works fine for me
00:42 < Jonimus> Merthsoft, silverex?
00:42 < Merthsoft> yah
00:42 < Jonimus> It keeps crashing on startup on me, works great once started but it takes a few tries for it to start correctly
00:43 < Merthsoft> nto here
00:43 < Jonimus> hmm I'll try a reinstall
00:43 < Jonimus> maybe my HDD firmware update did cause issues :(
00:43 < Jonimus> I sure hope not
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00:45 < Jonimus> hmm it does seem better now, I wonder what the issue was
00:45 < i_c-Y> Jonimus: delete your profile ie. everything in appdata
00:46 < i_c-Y> i just use irssi now
00:46 < Jonimus> i_c-Y, its working better now
00:46 < Jonimus> so I'm good
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00:54 < TD-Linux> (obligatory plug for Qt goes here)
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00:59 < efneTI92> [Jonimus] Yes rivereye, it is time to go fishing.
00:59 < Jonimus> well I got x-chat to use a shared GTK runtime, so that'll hopefully save some hdd space
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01:11 < Jonimus> why can't windows have a good method of dealing with shared Library dependacies
01:11 < Jonimus> I hate having 3 copys of GTK installed Two of which are the same version 
01:14 <+jr19> idk
01:16 < Randomist> I have to have it twice on Windows install -- once for Pidgin and everything else, and once for GIMP, until I get bored one day and convince GIMP to see GTK in the right directory.
01:18 <@chronomex> hey guys what's new
01:19 <+jr19> the yar
01:19 <+jr19> year
01:19 <+jr19> too
01:19 <+jr19> gonna eat some mac and cheese with tuna in it omnomnomnomnomnom
01:20 <@chronomex> omnomnom
01:20 <@chronomex> I'm munching on spiral mac&cheese with ham bits in it
01:24 <+doc_who> hmmm, "notate" is a real word
01:25 <@chronomex> yurp
01:25 < Randomist> And I probably meant "denote."  :P
01:25 <+doc_who> i thought Randomist had just made it up
01:32 <+jr19> no!
01:34 <@chronomex> POTY voting is closed btw
01:35 <@Andy_J> Jonimus: it does
01:35 <@Andy_J> it's called WinSxS
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01:44 < ports>  i dont like tuna
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02:02 < i_c-Y> http://kokomoperspective.com/news/local_news/article_15a0a546-f574-11de-ab22-001cc4c03286.html
02:03 < i_c-Y> Jonimus: not to mention that a lot of apps built in shitty ways (eg. silverex xchat) bring their own copies of everything in.
02:06 < Jonimus> i_c-Y, but silverex has no issues useing a global one
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02:07 < efneTI92> [KermM] http://www.cemetech.net :: Leading The Way to the Future
02:12 <+doc_who> aw man
02:12 < i_c-Y> ...
02:12 <+doc_who> i havent programmed in c in a while and im learning it again and i am just awful at it
02:13 < i_c-Y> im pretty sure you were awful at it before anyway, if thats any consolation.
02:13 <+doc_who> the code works but im thinking to myself there must be a simpler way to do it
02:13 <+doc_who> that is true i_c-Y 
02:14 < i_c-Y> there probably is a simpler way
02:15 < Randomist>  /me needs to start learning C++ again; checks out the C++ Spoonfeed videos.
02:17 <+doc_who> there was a simpler way :)
02:18 <+doc_who> ....and i just hacked something together again
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02:21 <+doc_who> the exercise - http://pastebin.com/d892aa95 and my code - http://pastebin.com/d1c21d979
02:22 < BrandonW> So you can tell us now who win POTY, right?!
02:22 < BrandonW> (chronomex)
02:22 < BrandonW> won*
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02:31 < efneTI92> [DSP_Lord] I'm not a ninja, no idea what you're talking about.
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03:15  * doc_who pokes \\BAF\IRC 
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03:54 <@chronomex> BrandonW: you'll have to wait!
03:56 < i_c-Y> ...
03:56 < i_c-Y> Jonimus: looks like your xchat is broken.
03:57 < Jonimus> i_c-Y, yes it does
03:57 < Jonimus> Cuz I was messing with gtk some more
03:57 < i_c-Y> if you want an actual working xchat build go official. or try completely deleting your profile.
03:58 < Jonimus> Yeah, That'll be my next try or start useing screen+irssi/weechat+ssh
04:06 < Randomist> Latter sounds better.  :)
04:06 < Randomist> Who needs a GUI for IRC, anyway?  :
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04:07 < efneTI92> [Genolo] Only my railgun can shoot letting my soul out~
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04:08 <+Genolo> my computer just
04:08 <+Genolo> it overheated while i was afk
04:09 <+jr19> that's never really a good thing
04:09 <+Genolo> i didn't even have much running
04:10 < Randomist> Must needs a better cooling system... or to have dirt cleaned out?
04:12 < i_c-Y> Randomist is right for once...
04:13 < i_c-Y> maybe the fan died or something.
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04:14 < millinao> does anyone have an unreal tournament 3 cd key they're not using
04:15 < Randomist> Can't get a crack from BitTorrent or something?
04:15 < i_c-Y> isn't it like 5 bucks on steam now?
04:15 < millinao> dunno if it works online though
04:15 < i_c-Y> ut 3 sucks anyway
04:16 < i_c-Y> ut 2004 and ut99 are the only good ut's.
04:16 < millinao> i wonder if anyone plays 2k4 online still
04:17 < i_c-Y> i do sometimes. kerm might. 
04:17 < i_c-Y> surely the ut 2k4 community is bigger than the ut3 community - the ut3 engine is used elsewhere but i dont think they have many people playing ut3 itself.
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04:31  * Randomist ought to invest in a plug computer.
04:32 < Jonimus> i_c-Y, agreed on the UT2004 thing, the Unreal 3 engine is to dark and UT2k4 is much better
04:32 < Jonimus> and easier to crack
04:32 < Jonimus> though I do also Own UT3
04:32 < i_c-Y> UT3 has a good engine
04:33 < i_c-Y> its just that the UT3 game itself sucks ass
04:33 < millinao> i dunno what's wrong with UT3
04:33 < millinao> it looks almost the same, but you're right, 2k4 is better
04:34 < millinao> I think it went too colorless
04:34 < Jonimus> yeah, UT2k4 is very colorful and bright in comparision
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05:05 <@nikky> DIAF
05:05 <@nikky> DIAF
05:05 <@nikky> DIAF
05:21 < Merthsoft> easy tiger
05:22 <@chronomex> FAID
05:22 <@chronomex> FAID
05:22 <@chronomex> FAID
05:26 <@nikky> haw haw
05:28 <@chronomex> hai.
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05:33  * Randomist wonders what the thing with prepend- and suffixing "X"es to usernames is about.
05:35 < BrandonW> Have any of you sifted through this RockYou password data?
05:35 < BrandonW> It's amazing how stupid some people are.
05:35 < BrandonW> You would not believe how many people use their e-mail address as their password.
05:36 < BrandonW> I signed into several accounts that way.
05:36 <+rcfreak0> lolfail
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05:41 <@chronomex> what's RockYou?
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05:42 < Randomist> Some stupid photo-sharing/MySpace bullshit site.
05:42 < Randomist> Users deserved it.
05:46 <+Genolo> now i'm tempted to try that
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05:54 <+jr19> wheres the data
05:55 < Randomist> http://igigi.baywords.com/rockyou-com-passwords-list/
05:56 < Randomist> ...Except the download limit got reached.
05:56 < Randomist> Surely, it's on BitTorrent or elsewhere by now.
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06:02 <@chronomex> nice
06:03 <+jr19> haha dumb
06:03 <+jr19> do you know how it got retrieved
06:03 <+jr19> sql injection or something i'm guessing
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06:17 < Randomist> <Wintervenom.localhost> "Pfft, I'm never going to need more than a hundred gigabytes of space." | <Wintervenom.demonmachine> "On this machine, '/' is using 173G of 213G."
06:20 <+jr19> WHY
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06:21 < Randomist> For the two things I never thought I'd never really be having much -- videos and games.
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06:34 <+jr19> ah
06:34 <+jr19> did you see how that login info was exposed?
06:42 <+jr19> firefox sucks hard lately
06:44 <+jr19> HARD I SAY
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06:45 < Randomist> Bah, I hate digging for the original source of something on YouTube.
06:45 < Randomist> There's at least five million copies of every video.
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06:57 < Merthsoft> ¯\(°_o)/¯
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07:46 < efneTI92> [KermEEE] http://www.cemetech.net :: Leading The Way to the Future
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08:02 < c|oneman> hello
08:02 < c|oneman> Which calculator should I get to replace a broken ti-83+? It's for a student in Grade 11 (and onward in the future)
08:03 < Merthsoft> 84+SE
08:04 < c|oneman> any defects in the 84+ that I should know about? Like poor viewing angles or wierd shit that like that that will make me really angry?
08:05 < Merthsoft> viewing angels?
08:05 < c|oneman> you know, like bad screen quality or something
08:06 < Merthsoft> no
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08:47 <@chronomex> c|oneman: most modern TI screens are viewable
08:54 < c|oneman> what do you mean viewable?
08:55 < c|oneman> like, you can see them from more angles?
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09:05 < efneTI92> [LordMathi] I'm not a ninja, no idea what you're talking about.
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09:08 < efneTI92> [Netham47] "Rock is overpowered, paper is fine." -Scissors
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09:08 <+Netham47> curses to the one who introduced me to Dr Who
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09:41 < efneTI92> [DSP_Lord] I'm not a ninja, no idea what you're talking about.
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10:59 < efneTI92> [bsparks] http://www.junemann.nl/maxcoderz/images/smilies/grayscale_drifter2.gif Parrot.
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11:12 < Merthsoft> aiiir port
11:12 <+krisk> yo
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11:27 < efneTI92> [leofox] All we do in hell is play DDR!
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11:43 <@chronomex> dude like holy fuck if this is real
11:43 <@chronomex> http://www.unitedti.org/forum/index.php?s=2d94dffcdeffdbb4ef45df1ba793ca3f&showtopic=8191&st=300&p=139534&#entry139534
11:45 < DSP_Lord> wow.
11:45 <+krisk> ?
11:47 <@chronomex> yeah.
11:48 <+krisk> i like the delusions of grandeur some people have
11:49 <+krisk> always good for a laugh
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14:05 < efneTI92> [LordMathi] I'm not a ninja, no idea what you're talking about.
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14:47 < bsparks> Safari is just a little more retarded with every update :/ and how it's taking well over 5 minutes to close
14:47 <+krisk> haha
14:47 < bsparks> Sometimes I wonder why the hell I even use it
14:50 <+krisk> why do you use it?
14:51 < bsparks> Because it has a lot of little features I like
14:51 < bsparks> And by little, I mean REALLY LITTLE :/
14:51 <+krisk> anything im missing out on with ff?
14:52 < bsparks> Nothing important. It can resize large text boxes which I like. And that's... about it I think nowandays 
14:54 < bsparks> and it does RSS reading nicely
14:55 <+krisk> hmm ok
15:01 < bsparks> Though, it is annoying that very few other browsers have actual ways to block flash content :/
15:01 <+krisk> you mean other than ff and chrome?
15:01 < bsparks> Chrome isn't applicable to my situation
15:02 <+krisk> im nto sure chrome is applicable or suitable to anyone's situation
15:02 < bsparks> But other than FX, Camino, Opera has a sort of half assed one... and Safari has a similar half assed one. But that's pretty much it
15:02 < bsparks> I'm on a Power Mac G4 - CPU: 2 x PowerPC G4 - Speed: 866 MHz - RAM Usage: 620 MB / 1 GB [||||||----] - Disk Space: 1.12 TB with 235.31 GB Free - Running: Mac OS X 10.5.8 (9L31a) - Processes: 97 - Uptime: 10:02  up 8 days, 19:22, 1 user, load averages: 1.63 1.90 2.18
15:02 < bsparks> first part there
15:02 < bsparks> Chrome is not applicable to PPC users
15:03 <+krisk> ah
15:03 <+krisk> well no loss there anyway
15:03 < bsparks> It does suck because I would use chrome if I could >_>
15:03 <+krisk> really?
15:04 < bsparks> Yeah, Chrome 4 is the fastest browser I have used, and everything is laid out in a way that I like
15:04 < bsparks> It also does a LOT of little things I like
15:04 < tr1p1ea> and its made by google
15:04 <@E-J> chrome is fastest browser in my computer in linux
15:04 <@E-J> krisk doesn't like google
15:04 < bsparks> Ah
15:05 < bsparks> I love me some google. Everything I have used by them is good stuff :)
15:05 <@E-J> bsparks: even wave?
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15:05 < efneTI92> [KermM] http://www.cemetech.net :: Leading The Way to the Future
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15:05 <+krisk> i think chrome is good for netbooks maybe
15:06 < bsparks> E-J, I have seen potentional for Wave. And even used it for a large chat-like meeting thinger between a bunch of friends. But it's not for me specifically, I still like it :)
15:06 < bsparks> It works on my iPod :D
15:06 <+krisk> and if you really dont do anything with your browse, like only open one site at a time
15:06 < bsparks> ?
15:06 < bsparks> I normally fire up my usual 2 tabs, and when I browse blogs 30 or 40 tabs, and it still outperforms anything else
15:06 <+krisk> i dont care about performance
15:07 <+krisk> that only matters on netbooks and silly things
15:07 < bsparks> Might I mention, that it handles tabs better than any other browser in that you can rearrange them. And that if you close multiple ones it doesn't resize the tabs till you are done. Those are very important
15:07 <+krisk> all browsers load instantly for me so i wouldnt even know if any of them are slow
15:07 <+krisk> ff can rearrange tabs
15:08 <+krisk> and pop them out/into windows
15:08 <+krisk> or pop windows back into tabs
15:08 <+krisk> also bookmarks/tabs trees
15:09 < bsparks> Same with chrome. I just like the tab management a bit better. It's a matter of personal preferance I guess
15:09 <+krisk> i wasnt aware it actually had tab management
15:09 < bsparks> It didn't have any real tab management in versions 1 and 2 I don't thing
15:10 < bsparks> But I forget, been a while since I tinckered with those
15:10 <+krisk> ok i will try the newest chrome again
15:10 <+krisk> it feels slow to me though
15:10 <@Andy_J> processes are expensive
15:10 <@Andy_J> so yeah it would be slower because of that
15:10 <+krisk> i know its really fast performance wise
15:10 <+krisk> but the gui looks really slow
15:11 <+krisk> like mouse overs on stuff are too shiny and too fancy
15:11 <+krisk> makes it feel like it responded to the mouse over much later than it really did backstage
15:13 <+krisk> ff can look good with a nice theme while still having hard 1:1 resonse between feel/interface and engine
15:13 < bsparks> really? I never suffered from any GUI lag
15:13 <+krisk> its not actual lag
15:14 < bsparks> so.. it's fake lag?
15:14 <+krisk> look/feel laggy because of fancy design things
15:14 <+krisk> let me download it and see if it still applies/i can find an example
15:14 < tr1p1ea> like when people learn flash
15:15 < tr1p1ea> and make websites with transitions and tweens for every button
15:15 <+krisk> yeah
15:15 < tr1p1ea> so clicking something you have to watch a 2 second animation all the time
15:15 < tr1p1ea> which is cool the first time ...
15:15 < tr1p1ea> but tahts about it
15:15 <@Andy_J> not even the first time :P
15:15 <+krisk> like if youre doign a mouse over theres a slow glow effect but the button was ready the moment you moved onto it, not the moment the shitty fade is done fading
15:15 < tr1p1ea> hehe
15:16 <+krisk> i hope chrome remembers which screen it was opened/closed
15:16 <+krisk> then i can keep it for my secondary monitor
15:17 <+krisk> "Google Update installation failed with error 0x8004071c."
15:17 < bsparks> krisk, oh, I think I know what you're talking about. I never assumed it was going to wait for the animation to finish. More like moving your mouse over the button 'activated' it. But I can see how that may get annoying
15:18 <+krisk> i know the button works before the animation is done, but the animation makes it feel like the browser has to catch up with you
15:18 <+krisk> also, i cant install it. :|
15:18 <+krisk> i think thats a pretty big flaw in a browser.
15:18 < bsparks> How is that the browser's fault? lol
15:19 < bsparks> Did you make sure you downloaded the right version for starters?
15:19 <+krisk> wat
15:19 <@Andy_J> try to get it with IE, then it Just Works
15:19 <+krisk> http://www.google.com/chrome?hl=en
15:19 <+krisk> i click download
15:19 <+krisk> i double click the exe
15:19 <+krisk> it fails
15:19 < bsparks> Andy_J, XD
15:19 <@Andy_J> bsparks: no, really
15:20 <@Andy_J> it uses ClickOnce.
15:20 <+krisk> http://www.google.com/support/installer/bin/answer.py?answer=146172&hl=en&errorcode=0x8004071c&extracode1=0x00000000&extracode2=0&app={8A69D345-D564-463C-AFF1-A69D9E530F96}&guver=1.2.183.13&ismachine=0&os=6.1&sp=Service%20Pack%202&mid=&uid={8B2653A0-6501-4791-8345-10A78B039EE4}&iid=&source=gethelp
15:20 <+krisk> wat
15:20 <+krisk> wtf is windows audit mode
15:20 < bsparks> Andy_J, oh, haha. 
15:20 < bsparks> hahaha windows >_>
15:20 <+krisk> haha other OSes still cant beat it.
15:21 <@Andy_J> krisk: maybe some of your messing around to boot windows faster caused it
15:21 <+krisk> i have done no such thing
15:21 < bsparks> It installs in Win2k on a VM for me
15:21 <+krisk> im on a very clean install of win 7 ultimate
15:22 <@Andy_J> "very clean"
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15:22 <+krisk> as in ive done no tweaking or power user stuff
15:22 <@Andy_J> if you never went through windows welcome, there's your problem
15:22 <+krisk> hah really?
15:22 <@Andy_J> it would appear to be the case by looking on msdn quick
15:23 <+krisk> could be in the installer image i used
15:23 <+krisk> but at least the fix is easy
15:23 <+krisk> in linux or whatever this wouldve taken 3 weeks just to find documentation on it and then another 3 days to get the bugs out of the fixes for it
15:23 < bsparks> For chrome?
15:24 <+krisk> nah im just saying alternative oses suck
15:24 < bsparks> And so do vacuums, but they get the job done... and so do vacuums. 
15:24 <+krisk> but the job isnt to suck
15:25 <+krisk> woo i am in the installer
15:27 <+krisk> still no bookmarks sidebar?
15:28 < bsparks> Hm, idk actually. I rarely ever use bookmarks 
15:29 <+krisk> i found myself using them more to keep tabs to a minimum
15:29 < bsparks> I abuse browsing history in that I can start typing a web page and every browser on the market now will show the history in the drop down
15:30 <+krisk> can you get an overview of all the tabs somehow? like a per domain tree structure or thumbnail view
15:30 < bsparks> I believe you can,. but I don't know it off the top of my head
15:30 <+krisk> i hate history because it remembers urls i dont care about, bookmarks/tabs filter out the ones i actually want to read
15:31 <+krisk> so if im browsing a forum and went through 500 topics to find 50 i wanted to read later auto completion is more of a curse than a blessing
15:31 <+krisk> 50 bookmarks in their own suitably named folder however..
15:32 <+krisk> i saw a firefox plugin that showed a domain based tree for your tabs but i cant find it anymore : (
15:33 <+krisk> can it be set so it doesnt make tabs small but lets you scroll through tabs?
15:33 < bsparks> There is a minimum tab width somewhere. Just browse all the options as opposed to asking an asston of questions?
15:34 <+krisk> browse all the options?
15:35 < bsparks> You know, under Preferances, Configuration, Options, Settings, whatever it may be called
15:35 <+krisk> theres not much to browse through
15:35 <+krisk> theres just some privacy/security settings, passwords/autofill/history, and homepage
15:36 < bsparks> there was more last time I used it.
15:36 < bsparks> ¯\(°_o)/¯
15:37 <+krisk> its a very basic, limited, browser
15:38 <+krisk> its something i wouldnt use unless i absolutely have to
15:38 < bsparks> Good, because if I recall, nobody told you that you had to use it :)
15:38 <+doc_who> morning
15:40 <+krisk> just giving my conclusion after retrying because your desire to use it interested me into re-evaluating
15:40 <+krisk> mornin
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15:40 < bsparks> I like it because a lot of the features other browsers cram into their UI and browsing experience are ones I just don't need.
15:41 < bsparks> All I really require is an address bar that preferably doubles as a search box. And tabs.
15:41 <+krisk> hmm i was about to say ff can do everything while still keeping the screen/ui very clean
15:42 < KermM> about:config
15:42 < bsparks> In my experiences it's been slow to start up and is generally slow... period. But that was in my experiences 
15:42 <+krisk> though i do clean up its toolbars and stuff for a few seconds when i install it
15:42 <+krisk> i can imagine ff not being instant/fast enough for people who dont continually spend too much money on their desktop pc
15:43 < bsparks> FX is a nice browser if you have the newest everything in your comp and enough procesing power to calculate Pi to a billion digits while streaming HD movies and browsing sites covered in flash plugins >_>
15:43 <+krisk> jup
15:43 <+krisk> id probably use chrome on a netbook
15:44 <+krisk> although ff is being improved constantly as well of course
15:45 <+doc_who> i use opera now
15:45 <+doc_who> its not so bad
15:46 <+doc_who> some sites don't play well with it
15:46 <+krisk> heard that the newest opera is good
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15:46 <@E-J> only opera i use is pizza opera
15:46 <+doc_who> and the ad-blocker cant handle a few ads
15:46 < bsparks> Opera got a HUGE speed boost a short while ago
15:46 < bsparks> And with that huge speed boost, they broke everything the browser did, ever :p
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15:46 <+krisk> lol
15:46 < bsparks> It's fast, and doesn't work, but it's fast! Though that's just the new alpha
15:47 <+krisk> i was trying a custom compiled alpha of firefox with hardware rendering a little while ago : o
15:47 <@E-J> crashes faster than ie and ff!
15:48 <+krisk> ofcourse there was no difference with ordinary browsing, but i can imagine it helps on systems where the cpu bottlenecks ff
15:48 < bsparks> jesus... 
15:48 < bsparks> Safari's Cache was 5GB
15:49 <+krisk> thats actually impressive
15:49 < bsparks> How in the hell do you get a 5GB cache in only 7 days o.0
15:49 <+krisk> sounds like its used more like an archive than just cache though :P
15:50 < bsparks> probably
15:50 <+krisk> temp application installers?
15:50 < bsparks> nah
15:50 < bsparks> I don't do temp files, and there really aren't application installers on OS X
15:50 <+krisk> ok
15:50 < bsparks> it's 95% drag & drop
15:55 < bsparks> lol, Woz reads engadget :)
15:59 < bsparks> http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/01/woz_gps.jpg
16:06 < bsparks> !t #tcpa is: Welcome to #tcpa! | TI nspire hacked! - http://tinyurl.com/nspirehacked | 0x7DA doesn't feel any different than 0x7D9 does it?
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16:20 <+doc_who> why should it?
16:21 <+krisk> not yet anyway
16:21 <+doc_who> its an artificial arbitrary division of an artificial measurement of constructed units
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16:22 <+krisk> except for the whole orbiting the sun thing
16:22 <+doc_who> oh right, science
16:22 < bsparks> even that
16:22 < bsparks> we constantly add leap seconds because the orbit isn't perfect :p
16:23 <+krisk> well lets agree those adjustments have passed yesterday
16:24 <+krisk> we have circled the sun one whole revolution since 2008, so there is tangible difference
16:24 <+krisk> that this difference puts us at 2010 and not some other number is artificial, ill agree with that
16:27 <+jr19> hi
16:27  * bsparks should pay someone to develop a browser he likes..
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16:32 < efneTI92> [KermEEE] http://www.cemetech.net :: Leading The Way to the Future
16:33 < bsparks> or just watch Beast Wars
16:33 < i_c-Y> The regulars at the United T1 forums keep them coming, this time hacking the Texas Instruments Nspire graphing calculator. We enjoy seeing the exploits that unlock the backend of these types of devices. The difference this time is that the hacking continues even though Texas Instruments has shown that it intends to protect the security of their devices using the DMCA. The Nspire thread linked above discusses the DMCA concerns just a bit but it s
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16:33 < i_c-Y> [Thanks Iceman]
16:35 < bsparks> wooo, gogo 10 year old shows 
16:35 <+krisk> has TI actually taken any further actions?
16:36 <+krisk> afaik they send one letter and everybody is raving about how evil they are and how the community is fighting them all the way for months
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16:40 < i_c-Y> the kidnapped BrandonW and held him hostage remember?
16:40 <+doc_who> krisk, i think it was just BrandonW being a blowhard
16:42 < i_c-Y> andthe eff whacking offtoit.
16:43 <+krisk> ok, i thought i was the only one who saw it that way
16:44 <+doc_who> look what he posted in the nspire thread ; http://www.unitedti.org/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=8191&view=findpost&p=139538
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16:44 <+doc_who> everyone else is all "good job ExtendeD!" but then he goes 
16:45 <+doc_who> "SUCK IT TI!"
16:45 <+jr19> yeah i saw that too
16:45 <+jr19> and was like hrm
16:45 <+krisk> [12:43] <@chronomex> http://www.unitedti.org/forum/index.php?s=2d94dffcdeffdbb4ef45df1ba793ca3f&showtopic=8191&st=300&p=139534&#entry139534
16:45 <+krisk> [12:48] <+krisk> i like the delusions of grandeur some people have
16:47 < i_c-Y> this whole thing is getting blown out of proportion. but good job to extended.
16:48 <+krisk> +1
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17:05 < Spengo\__> http://store.steampowered.com/app/12520/
17:05 < Spengo\__> lol
17:05 < Spengo\__> it's big rigs completed
17:09 < TD-Linux> did you make that game?
17:11 < Spengo\__> you've heard of big rigs over the road racing before right?
17:14 <+doc_who> yea its my favorite game
17:15 < TD-Linux> now
17:15 < TD-Linux> *no
17:15 < TD-Linux> I've heard of civilization, pong, and tetris
17:19 < BrandonW> Me being a blowhard? What the hell is that about?
17:19 < BrandonW> It was more than just "one letter".
17:19 < BrandonW> They had the University of Washington take down chronomex's page.
17:19 < BrandonW> They sent several letters to many of us.
17:19 <+doc_who> the gamespot review of it is the best http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mB1zWEhgrLs
17:20 < BrandonW> Including Slashdot, Reddit, etc.
17:20 < BrandonW> Wikipedia went back and forth with them...
17:20 < BrandonW> Know what you're talking about before acting like an ass.
17:21 <+doc_who> it doesnt tell you that youre supposed to be racing but the other truck doesnt move from the starting line
17:21 <+krisk> 1) you do know the reason for asking a question, right?
17:21 <+krisk> 2) oh noes letters
17:21 <+krisk> 3) and after all that?
17:22 < BrandonW> Calling someone a blowhard without knowing all the facts is acting like an ass.
17:22 <+krisk> ok sucks to be that person then
17:23 <+krisk> so now i know its multiple letters rather than just one should i really adjust my opinion?
17:23 <+doc_who> and it doesn't show the "YOU'RE WINNER!" screen either
17:23 < BrandonW> I don't know what your opinion is.
17:25 <+krisk> that pretending the community is in a long epic fight with TI after a bunch of letters is a bit much
17:25 <+doc_who> i still think your ego is inflated more than the Hindenburg
17:25 <+doc_who> but you can call me what you will
17:25 <+krisk> and rather unjustified if TI hasnt taken any interesting further steps
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17:29 < BrandonW> What have I done that shows I have such an inflated ego?
17:30 < Barrett_> absolutely nothing.
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17:31 < bsparks> I love oldish shows :)
17:47 < BrandonW> What are you watching?
17:48 < bsparks> Beast Wars
18:01 <+krisk> hmm black or white earphones?
18:02 < i_c-Y> black, lest someone mistake you for an iLoser.
18:02 <+krisk> true
18:02 <+krisk> http://store.audeoworld.com/shared/StoreFront/default.asp?CS=audeoworld&StoreType=BtoC&Count1=834163844&Count2=751304268
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18:10 < i_c-Y> doesnt really seem to be a bood choice.
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18:26 < efneTI92> [Genolo] Only my railgun can shoot letting my soul out~
18:27 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Genolo] by SnowCrash
18:30 < bsparks> wooo 305 FPS
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18:34 <@nikky> BrandonW: Ignore the trolls.
18:34 < bsparks> also nikky, I am not a big fan of Lynx :)
18:37 < LordMathi> <BrandonW> What have I done that shows I have such an inflated ego?
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18:37 < DSP_Lord> i think it might be the "in your face TI" attitude you have towards everything.
18:38 < DSP_Lord> but:
18:38 < DSP_Lord> ¯\(°_o)/¯
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20:00 <@nikky> Grue_: I don't like your stash
20:01 < Grue_> ...hrm?
20:02 <@nikky> That
20:02 <@nikky> s right
20:02 <@nikky> I said it
20:03 < DSP_Lord> your facial hair makes him scared.
20:03 < DSP_Lord> or something.
20:03 < Grue_> Possibly
20:14 < i_c-Y> :/
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21:09 < efneTI92> [Randomist] CAUTION:  Exposure to this user may cause neurological damage.
21:18 <@E-J> http://nextround.net/upcoming/thumbs/2009/12/22/The-Japanese-Snuggie-Happened-full.jpg
21:20 < leofox> great idea
21:20 < leofox> I always walk around in my sleeping bag
21:20 < leofox> stairs are difficult that way
21:20 <@E-J> it's all about balance
21:21 < leofox> usually I just let myself slide
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21:30 <@E-J> http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/photo/2006-09/27/xin_58090327202102848819.jpg
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21:40 < ports_> hey
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21:40 < ports_> http://gizmodo.com/5438681/hps-pine-trail+equipped-mini-210-hd-and-friends-leak-before-ces
21:41 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Michael_V] by etaonrish
21:41 < ports_> thats a pretty sweet looking netbook
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21:53 <+jr19> weightlifting win
21:56 <@E-J> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZeciX-3wfs
21:59 <+jr19> E-J: you can't save the world by joining a facebook group
21:59  * Michael_V has started 2010 with C++ programming and thinks all is swell
21:59 <+jr19> http://www.thonline.com/article.cfm?id=268549
22:02  * E-J went to look what swell means from dictionary and was confused a bit until last word explained
22:02 < incubus> E-J, which form
22:02 <+jr19> Michael_V is swollen all over
22:02 < incubus> Everything is just _swell_.
22:02 < incubus> or jr19's toe swelled up to the size of a lemon
22:03 < Randomist> incubus:  People still use "swell" to mean "great?"  :P
22:03 < incubus> yes
22:03 < incubus> "Oh that's just swell"
22:03 < Randomist> Old-school.
22:03 < incubus> Indeed.
22:03 <+Michael_V> I'm a very old school kind of person :)
22:04 < incubus> Michael_V, I thought you died :
22:04 < incubus> :/
22:04 <+Michael_V> law school is like death
22:04 <+Michael_V> I in fact prepared by arranging all my affairs in very much the same way
22:04 <+Michael_V> it worked well :P
22:05 <+Michael_V> but I'm on winter break now
22:06 <@E-J> incubus: first explanations were verbs, then there was one synonym for waving ("a heavy swell"), then roundness (swell of her breasts), then styly gentleman
22:06 <@E-J> and last one was that everything went swell
22:06 <+Michael_V> well perhaps I thought that all was round like her breasts
22:07 <+Michael_V> but that would be bizarre
22:07 <+Michael_V> :)
22:07 <@E-J> arem
22:07 <@E-J> aren't you bizarre?
22:07 <+Michael_V> yes
22:07 <+Michael_V> I am
22:07 <+Michael_V> but I am not round like her breasts
22:07 <+jr19> mmmm breasts
22:08 < ports_> ok
22:08 < ports_> whos breasts
22:08 <+Michael_V> E-J introduced the pronoun; ask him
22:09 <+Michael_V> and it's "whose"
22:09  * E-J hides
22:10 < ports_> jr19:  the people from playon are dicks..
22:10 < TD-Linux> I now have a new insult for overweight people
22:10 < ports_> if i want to install playon on my desktop and my laptop. i have to buy 2 copies
22:10 <@E-J> though i like more finnish word for breasts, it is palindrome and you can write it also only with numbers (so it's geek friendly word)
22:11 <+jr19> that sucks
22:11 <@E-J> "tissit" = 715517
22:11 <+jr19> the people at padersync are dicks for upping their prices
22:11 <+jr19> tissit
22:11 < ports_> jr19:  no they didnt
22:11 < ports_> $20 was a special
22:12 <@E-J> jr19: pronounced maybe like this sit
22:12 < TD-Linux> E-J: that's why they made other words for the same thing in English
22:12 < TD-Linux> 8008, 717
22:12 <@E-J> well, without "h"
22:12 <+jr19> Laita tissit naamaani
22:13 <+jr19> i didnt know it was a special
22:13 <@E-J> jr19: "naamalleni" is correct
22:13 <+jr19> hmmm
22:14 <@E-J> TD-Linux: but you can't say "really big boobs" like that, but in finnish you can "7051 150 715517"
22:14 <@E-J> "7051 1507 715517"*
22:15 <@E-J> and first part is also palindrome "tosi isot" ...
22:16  * Michael_V thinks IRC can be bizarrely educational
22:16 <+Michael_V> not that I would ever have any use for this
22:16 <@E-J> Michael_V: well if you ever dare to come to finland...
22:17 <+Michael_V> That's not the kind of phrase I am apt to say :)
22:19 < ports_> meh
22:19 < ports_> i cant wait to switch away from at&t
22:20 <+jr19> when are you switching
22:20 < ports_> in March probably
22:20 < Barrett_> why is itunes incapable of playing in "full screen" mode without blacking out the other screens?
22:21 < bsparks> because dicks
22:21 <+jr19> everywhere
22:21 < ports_> Barrett_:  i dislike that you cant play something in full screen flash on 1 monitor and woke on another without the full screen closing
22:21 < ports_> work/woke
22:22 <@Andy_J> ports_: solution to that is to use Opera and zoom in the page so the video is the full size of the window
22:22 <@E-J> Michael_V: maybe if some girl asks you what can you say in finnish :)
22:22 <@Andy_J> Barrett_: because it assumes you want to view the thing undisturbed. solution, don't use full-screen mode. silly, perhaps, but it's a design choice
22:23 <@E-J> incubus: http://www.uebersetzung.at/twister/fi.htm
22:23 < ports_> Andy_J:  i just did the "pop out" option in Hulu and double clicked the title bar to make it full screen... good enough
22:24 < ports_> Andy_J:  and why would I need to switch to opera to zoom in on a webpage? Firefox and IE can zoom
22:24 <@Andy_J> they can do proper zooming now and not just increase text size?
22:24 <@Andy_J> I didn't know that.
22:26 < ports_> Firefox can do a real zoom, or a text zoom
22:26 < Randomist> Firefox could do proper zooming since version three; but it only zooms text by default.
22:26 < bsparks> Randomist, that is not zooming
22:26 < ports_> Randomist:  by default?  Ctrl++ is zoom..
22:26 < Randomist> I.E., you have to uncheck the box.
22:30 <+jr19> ports: i sort of get annoyed by the facebook app, all the notifications that pop up
22:30 <+jr19> and then when you go on the actual site on a computer, the notifications still aren't cleared
22:31 <@nikky> Barrett_: You use itunes?
22:31 <@nikky> haw haw haw haw haw
22:33 < ports_> jr19:  thats why you properly close it....
22:33 < ports_> then you dont get too many.. just whenever you get an email...
22:33 < ports_> which you can control in the facebook.com settings
22:34 <+jr19> yeah i only get them whenever i get an email, i need to adjust that shit
22:34 <+jr19> i guess i like to know when people tag pictures of me, but i dont really care if someone comments on a status that i commented on
22:34 < ports_> yeah
22:35 < ports_> tbh.. i dont care what other people write on comments/status...
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22:35 < ports_> i dont need to see other people saying "Congratulations" to someone getting engaged
22:35 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v glk] by etaonrish
22:36 <+jr19> yeah i just changed a bunch of it
22:38 < ports_> cool
22:39 < ports_> maybe ill get an htc snap instead of a blackberry..
22:39 < ports_> and become a windows mobile user
22:39 <+jr19> you could
22:39 <+jr19> then you could use pocketputty
22:40 < ports_> yep
22:40 < ports_> and you couldnt talk to me anymore on bbm... thatd be nice
22:40 < ports_> no more pokes
22:41 <+jr19> i'd get over it
22:41 < ports_> i prefer the Bold style keyboard...
22:41 < ports_> i dont really like the Curve keyboard as much
22:41 <+jr19> i used the touch pro 2 for a bit again the other day
22:41 <+jr19> and i decided i'd rather have the blackberry for now
22:41 < ports_> heh
22:42 <+jr19> the battery life my friend gets on it is terrible, and it doesnt really do too much more
22:42 <+jr19> the screen is just huge
22:42 < ports_> yea
22:43 < ports_> i like the show Community
22:46 <+jr19> theres a picture of the chin tagged on facebook
22:46 <+jr19> shes just barely in the side of the picture
22:46 <+jr19> CHIN
22:46 < ports_> jayne leno?
22:47 <+jr19> i wonder who the weird guy behind them is
22:47 <+jr19> photobomb
22:53 <+jr19> did you see that
22:53 < ports_> did i see what
22:54 < ports_> why do people put computers in the kitchen?
22:54 <@Andy_J> recipes
22:54 < bsparks> Music
22:55 < ports_> Andy_J: I meant more of like a family computer...
22:55 < bsparks> Andy_J had his laptop ontop of the fridge for music purposes 
22:55 <@Andy_J> bsparks: I did?
22:55 < bsparks> Andy_J, for cooking with ajanata?
22:55 <+jr19> to keep an eye on their kids
22:56 <+jr19> and what they are doing on the compute
22:56 <+jr19> computer
22:56 <@Andy_J> bsparks: just my webcam was up there
22:56 < bsparks> ah
22:56 < ports_> jr19:  had his family computer in the kitchen for years
22:57 < ports_> this girl i met on OKcupid... her computer is in the kitchen too..
22:57 < ports_> i didnt know if this was common with other people
22:57 <+jr19> i think it depends on how your kitchen is set up
22:58 <+jr19> the kitchen at our old house was pretty large and was sort of a common space too
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23:04 < ports_> k
23:04 < ports_> i sent you a picture of my kitchen
23:05 < ports_> i dont really have room for a computer
23:06 <+jr19> i saw it
23:06 <+jr19> were you thinking about putting it out there or something?
23:06 < ports_> nah
23:06 < ports_> id like to be away from that cold window..
23:06 < ports_> because theres a really bad draft coming in through my porch door
23:06 < ports_> it feels worse now because i taped it up and so it can only leak through the plastic at the carpet/bottom
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23:12 < TD-Linux> it's 60 degrees in the room I'm currently in
23:13 < ports_> nice
23:13 < ports_> its 73 here
23:13 <+jr19> i went to lift weights and it was 52 degrees in the room
23:14 <+jr19> it was irritating
23:15 < ports_> heh
23:15 < ports_> i wouldnt mind working out in 52
23:20 < ports_> whats a good app to control your fan speed in windows?
23:21 < i_c-Y> speedfan.
23:22 < ports_> thanks
23:22 <+jr19> yes, speedfan
23:24 < ports_> holy crap
23:24 < ports_> my core is at 58C and my gpu is at 84C
23:24 <+jr19> this might be the worst download page i've ever seen
23:24 <+rcfreak0> ports_, cool off thaT GPU lol
23:25 < ports_> dunno how..
23:25 < ports_> the app booted up and says most of the keys it needs to access are write only
23:25 <+rcfreak0> get a pci slot cooler fan and stick it by the GPU
23:26 < ports_> this is a laptop
23:26 <+rcfreak0> oh
23:26 <+rcfreak0> heh
23:27 <+rcfreak0> get a chillpad?
23:28 < ports_> i closed the app and ran it again as Admin... it has more info in it now
23:28 < ports_> but it isnt giving me fan controls yet
23:28 <+rcfreak0> ive never used the controls for it, i just use it to monitor crap
23:28 <+rcfreak0> brb
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23:28 < ports_> k
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23:29 <+jr19> my core is at 40C
23:29 <+jr19> is that bad
23:29 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v rcfreak0] by efneTI85
23:29 < ports_> hes
23:29 <+jr19> oh snap
23:30 < TD-Linux> that's freezing
23:30 <+jr19> well i'm going to go get food and then go watch my friend kick his ps3 around a bit
23:30 <+jr19> bbl
23:30 < TD-Linux> my GPU frequently topped 100C
23:30 < TD-Linux> it's dead now :(
23:31 < i_c-Y> ydi
23:34 < ports_> hrmm
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23:37 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v krisk] by etaonrish
23:37 < ports_> hey krisk 
23:38 <+krisk> heyo
23:38 < ports_> whats up
23:39 <+krisk> just came back from the movies
23:39 < ports_> what movie did you see
23:39 < ports_> do you guys have a lot of american movies in the theaters there?
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23:39 <+krisk> Law Abiding Citizen
23:40 <+krisk> uhm yeah we get all the big movies of course
23:40 < ports_> cool
23:40 < ports_> is that one good?
23:40 <+krisk> this place is basically america with legal pot and a few months delays in releases of movies
23:40 <+krisk> its great
23:40 < ports_> cool.. i wanted to see it but was busy at the time
23:41 <+krisk> we went to see avatar 3d but it was full
23:41 < ports_> i wont pay to see that in the theater
23:41 <+krisk> i wanted to see this one based on the awesome trailer and it very much lived up to it
23:46 < ports_> krisk:  i just started watching the show Community last night... its really funny
23:47 <+krisk> hmm let me see
23:47 <+krisk> I've been busy all day reading about what will likely be my final choise for IEMs
23:49 <+krisk> are the characters likeable? like Psych?
23:49 < ports_> yes
23:49 <+krisk> the summary sounds more intelligent than the usual stuff
23:50 <+krisk> i should finish college, i guess it fits nicely with that situation
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23:56 < efneTI92> [Jonimus] Yes rivereye, it is time to go fishing.
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