--- Log opened Fri Sep 11 00:00:01 2009 --- Day changed Fri Sep 11 2009 00:00 < BrandonW> Ask questions when you don't understand something and don't skip over stuff. 00:00 <@chronomex> ^ don't skip stuff 00:00 < BrandonW> It's better to drill it into your head now with no expectations instead of trying to get into a game and then losing your mind because you're confused on basics. 00:00 < Kurttank> ok 00:01 <@chronomex> yeah, doing the exercises is recommended 00:01 < Kurttank> when can I expect to be able to do anything of value? 00:02 < BrandonW> That depends on what you want to do and how well you grasp everything. 00:02 < BrandonW> You can't go into it with a specific goal. 00:02 < BrandonW> Because you have no idea what you want yet or what is and isn't possible. 00:02 < Randomist> Just dive into it. 00:02 < Kurttank> right 00:02 < Randomist> That's what I did, and I was going in less than a week. 00:02 < BrandonW> And then you quit. 00:02 < BrandonW> Don't listen to Randomist, ever. 00:02 < BrandonW> No one else does. 00:03 < Grue`> That's harsh. 00:03 < Grue`> :/ 00:03 < BrandonW> He can take it. 00:03 < BrandonW> Until he goes postal 00:03 < Grue`> Hehe 00:03 < Kurttank> lol 00:03 < Randomist> I didn't quit; I got bored. 00:03 < Kurttank> harsh 00:03 < Kurttank> where I'm from, that's nothing 00:03 < Kurttank> you should see the OTHER IRC rooms I use 00:04 < Grue`> I was joking... 00:04 < Grue`> There's also some... history... ;) 00:04 < Kurttank> yeah 00:04 < Kurttank> I can tell 00:04 < Kurttank> horrible troll is horrible 00:05 < Grue`> Not exactly 00:05 < Kurttank> actually, yeah 00:05 < Kurttank> he's a terrible troll 00:06 < Kurttank> Everyone knows diving right into a language, ESPECIALLY ASSEMBLY, is the worst possible rhing to do 00:06 < BrandonW> Not really...depends on what dive in means. 00:06 < Grue`> So... I realize I no longer own a graphing calculator... since I... lost... my TI-83 Plus some months ago... I think it got misplaced and ended up in the trash. >.< 00:06 < Kurttank> lol 00:07 < BrandonW> I didn't know for sure you ever had one. 00:07 < Grue`> Not like I actually use it, though... I'd barely turned it *on* in MONTHS. 00:07 < BrandonW> I have your TI-80. 00:07 < Grue`> Hehe 00:07 < Grue`> Indeed 00:07 < Randomist> Not trolling. It's easy if you know another programming langauge. 00:07 < Kurttank> no, it's not 00:07 < Grue`> That was actually my 2nd 83+ (first one got killed by liquid) 00:07 < Randomist> Or, at least it was for me. 00:07 < Kurttank> I know some C++ and TiBASIC 00:07 < BrandonW> Speaking of that, I need to check on the TI-92 II on eBay.... 00:07 < BrandonW> It'll complete my collection. 00:07 < Grue`> I don't even program anymore, much less for calculators... heh. :| 00:08 < Kurttank> it's nothing like any language I've ever seen 00:08 < Kurttank> wait 00:08 < Kurttank> Ti92? 00:08 < BrandonW> Yeah, the TI-92 II. 00:08 * Kurttank drools 00:08 < Randomist> But everyone learns differently, so... *Shrugs.* 00:08 < Kurttank> DO WANT 00:08 < BrandonW> It's old. 00:08 < BrandonW> You don't want it. 00:08 < Kurttank> what 00:08 < BrandonW> If you're dead-set on the large LCD, go with the Voyage 200, otherwise the 89Ti is best. 00:08 < Grue`> TI-92+ > TI-92 II 00:08 < Grue`> And The V200 replaced the 92+ basically 00:09 < Kurttank> Yeah, a few folks here have 89T's. I'm so jealous. 00:09 < BrandonW> I have one! 00:09 < Kurttank> But a V200 would be better than sex 00:09 * Randomist had one. 00:09 < Randomist> I virtuall have one, though. :P 00:09 < Randomist> * virtually 00:09 < Kurttank> as long as there are plenty of programs for it 00:09 < BrandonW> This is the first TI-92 II I've seen on eBay in 2 years at least. 00:09 < BrandonW> I'm thinking of upping my max bid. 00:10 < Kurttank> is there a good app library for it? 00:10 < _Digital> wow, I just realized I can stuff a 2x120mm wide radiator in my case... 00:10 < BrandonW> It's as developed as any other model. 00:10 < BrandonW> Everything is on ticalc.org. 00:10 * Grue` idly wonders if anyone has worked on developing a TI graphing calculator emulator for the iPhone/iPod Touch... 00:10 < BrandonW> I intend to for Android. 00:10 < Merthsoft> what's C151 00:10 < BrandonW> A key that's not ours, close the client, we're done. 00:10 < Kurttank> Huh. I just don't expect it to have as many programs for it as the 83/84 series 00:11 < Grue`> Why am I not surprised BrandonW? ;) 00:11 < BrandonW> I'm not the emulator guy, you should be surprised. 00:11 < BrandonW> I've never written one before in my life. 00:11 <@chronomex> but you are the genius guy 00:11 < Grue`> I know 00:11 <@chronomex> :P 00:11 < Grue`> But you're BrandonW 00:11 < Grue`> Exactly chronomex 00:11 < Merthsoft> can't be too hard 00:11 * Andy_J grabs a torch! 00:11 < Grue`> Andy_J: ? 00:11 < Grue`> Oh yeah 00:12 <@Andy_J> It's a grue, eeee! 00:12 < Grue`> Did I not tell you I got an iPhone? Heh 00:12 <@Andy_J> I gathered from twitter. 00:12 < Grue`> Hehe 00:12 < BrandonW> I'm thinking about getting one. 00:12 < Grue`> Also 00:12 < BrandonW> Selling the XV6800 and the first generation iPod Touch for it. 00:12 < Kurttank> I'm not 00:12 < Grue`> Dragon*Con was epic awesome. That is all. 00:12 <@Andy_J> You won't be able to get it into the app store, so I wouldn't be interested in doing it. 00:12 < Kurttank> XV68000? 00:12 < Grue`> There are "unofficial" app stores... *shrug* 00:12 < BrandonW> That's retarded not to work on something just because it won't be in the app store. 00:12 < Grue`> Of course only for jailbroken phones 00:13 <@Andy_J> I don't care enough to jailbreak. 00:13 < Kurttank> what's a XV68000 00:13 < Grue`> I haven't bothered yet... but I've only had mine for a week and a half. 00:13 < BrandonW> Nothing, an XV6800 is a smartphone. 00:13 < Kurttank> oh 00:13 < Kurttank> I have a BB 8820 00:13 -!- j-b-r [~j-b-r@ip98-169-89-44.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #tcpa 00:13 <@Andy_J> I'm happy as it is. 00:13 < Kurttank> getting a Bold soon 00:13 <@chronomex> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dChBN_zfofY .... wow. 00:13 < Grue`> Me too 00:13 < Kurttank> what is it, chrome? 00:14 < Kurttank> dang 00:14 < Grue`> I'm still running all free apps at this point, though 00:14 < Grue`> Heck, the iPhone was a *godsend* for Dragon*Con, between SMS and Twitter and Safari 00:14 < Kurttank> what 00:14 < BrandonW> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360187753105&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT <3 00:14 < Kurttank> twitter? 00:14 < Kurttank> ugh 00:14 <@chronomex> Kurttank: you should see my collection... I have an 89, 89Ti, V200 engineering sample, and a 92+ 00:14 < Grue`> (TwitterFon, mostly, though TweetDeck) 00:14 < Grue`> Don't be a hater 00:14 < Kurttank> I would kill for that collection 00:14 <@chronomex> Grue`: dragoncon? 00:14 < BrandonW> Who wants to see my collection? 00:14 <@chronomex> I DO I DIO 00:14 < BrandonW> Go ahead, guess how many I have. 00:15 < Merthsoft> 17 00:15 < Kurttank> I have no clue 00:15 <@chronomex> I already know ... 00:15 < BrandonW> Higher. 00:15 < Grue`> chronomex: Yes, Dragon*Con...? 00:15 <@chronomex> what's that? 00:15 < Kurttank> I have only 1 Ti-84+ 00:15 < Merthsoft> 24 00:15 < BrandonW> Higher. 00:15 < Grue`> "Dragon*Con is the largest multi-media, popular culture convention focusing on science fiction and fantasy, gaming, comics, literature, art, music, and film in the US." 00:15 <@chronomex> ah 00:15 < Kurttank> 35? 00:16 <@chronomex> it sounded like a furry thing 00:16 < BrandonW> 28. 00:16 < Grue`> It's not 00:16 < Kurttank> I hate furries. 00:16 <@chronomex> me too 00:16 < Merthsoft> why specifically hate that fetish 00:16 < Kurttank> it's not a fetish 00:16 < BrandonW> Merthsoft's a furry! 00:16 <@chronomex> because they're creepy and they follow me 00:16 < Merthsoft> i mean, i don't understand it, but it's no worse tahn a lot of other fetishes 00:16 < Kurttank> It's a lifestyle 00:16 <@chronomex> THEY'RE CREEPY 00:17 < Kurttank> It's WAY more than a fetish 00:17 < Merthsoft> so are BDSMs 00:17 < BrandonW> You sound like you might speak from experience. 00:17 < Kurttank> No, you don't get it 00:17 < Merthsoft> which a lot of people take to be a lifestyle 00:17 < Grue`> ... *sigh* 00:17 < Randomist> Furries get banned here. 00:17 <@Andy_J> Anyway. 00:17 < BrandonW> No they don't. 00:17 < BrandonW> You should be, though. 00:17 < Grue`> You should come to D*C next year Andy_J ;) 00:17 < Merthsoft> i mean, there are more subtle furries that just happen to like anthropromorphised animals 00:17 <@Andy_J> Grue`: Did you see the Players 1-4? 00:17 < Kurttank> Furries also get banned on my other IRC chanels 00:17 <@chronomex> Nikky is a furry 00:17 < Merthsoft> who don't dress up like foxes and walk around 00:17 < Merthsoft> just a normal fetish 00:17 < Randomist> The last one that was here did, every time. 00:18 <@Andy_J> Grue`: maybe. 00:18 < Grue`> Andy_J: ...no... I missed a lot of stuff though. (Though, to some degree, that's par for the course, as there's _so much_) 00:18 <@Andy_J> hopefully it won't be up against PAX 00:18 < Grue`> Yeah :/ 00:18 < Grue`> Is PAX always labor day wekend now? 00:18 <@Andy_J> I'd love to go to both. 00:18 < Grue`> I hope not 00:18 < Merthsoft> so then what's the issue 00:18 <@Andy_J> I have no idea. 00:18 < Kurttank> Back on subject... 00:18 < Grue`> But it kinda sounds like it is 00:18 < Grue`> Which is lame 00:18 < BrandonW> There is no subject in this channel, sadly. 00:18 < Kurttank> Brandon, what exactly do you have? 00:18 < Grue`> Dragon*Con has been doing Labor Day weekend for YEEEARRS 00:18 < BrandonW> Hm, let's see... 00:18 < BrandonW> I'll have to do this from memory... 00:19 < Merthsoft> just show us the pic 00:19 < Grue`> PAX would be cool, but if I could just do one I'd definitely do Dragon*Con, especially since I have so many friends that go 00:19 < Kurttank> pic? 00:19 < BrandonW> 4 73s, 80, two 81s, 82, 83, 83+, 83+SE, two 84+s, two 84+SEs, 85, 86, 89, 89Ti, 92, 92 with Plus module, Voyage 200, Nspire, Nspire CAS... 00:19 < Kurttank> I can't click links 00:19 < Randomist> GPM? 00:19 < BrandonW> There's more I'm forgetting. 00:19 < Merthsoft> is that counting the 84 i sent you 00:19 < Grue`> Btw Andy_J 00:19 < BrandonW> No, because it doesn't fully work. 00:19 < BrandonW> Those are fully working ones. 00:20 < Grue`> They're doing an east coast pax this spring 00:20 < Kurttank> Why would you buy an Nspire? 00:20 <@Andy_J> oooooo 00:20 < BrandonW> To crack it. 00:20 < BrandonW> That's the only legitimate reason. 00:20 < Kurttank> Crack it? 00:20 < Grue`> in boston in march iirc 00:20 < BrandonW> Yes, to get unsigned code running on it. 00:20 <@Andy_J> BOSTON 00:20 < Grue`> of course 00:20 < Kurttank> Oh 00:20 < Kurttank> cool 00:20 <@Andy_J> I bet a lot of HMX people would end up at something like that 00:20 < Kurttank> Does it still use a z80? 00:20 < BrandonW> No, it uses an ARM processor. 00:20 < Grue`> There was a swine flu outbreak at PAX so that's one thing D*C had over PAX this year, no swine flu ;) 00:20 * Randomist yawns, and goes off to do artwork. 00:21 < Kurttank> Huh. 00:21 < BrandonW> It does have a software z80 emulator. 00:21 < Kurttank> Completely new assembly language and all? 00:21 < BrandonW> Yes, which we don't know yet. 00:21 < BrandonW> We don't even have an unencrypted OS dump yet. 00:21 < Kurttank> dang 00:21 <@Andy_J> well we know ARM's assembly language, the pressing issue is we can't run any assembly code and we don't know how the OS calls would work if we could 00:21 < Kurttank> If the processor isn't a great deal better, I don't see why bother with it. 00:22 < BrandonW> It is a great deal better. 00:22 < BrandonW> It's some nice hardware. 00:22 < BrandonW> If we could only use it. 00:22 < Kurttank> huh. 00:22 < Kurttank> wow 00:22 < BrandonW> We strive to get code running on every model, no matter how crappy it is. 00:22 < BrandonW> Even the recent 81. 00:22 < TD-Linux> I finally got the chance to use a nSpire 00:22 < Kurttank> Yeah, heard about that 00:22 < Randomist> TD-Linux: The what? 00:22 < BrandonW> http://brandonw.net/nspire.php 00:22 < BrandonW> You clod. 00:22 < TD-Linux> also I spelled it wron on purpose 00:23 < BrandonW> You can die in a fire then. 00:23 < TD-Linux> it should be fairly easy to hax 00:23 < BrandonW> I'd love to see you try. 00:23 < BrandonW> It's already been taken to hardware experts to extract the Flash chip. 00:23 < TD-Linux> also are there dumps of the flash available anywhere? 00:23 < BrandonW> Don't ask me, do your own reading at http://hackspire.unsads.com/ 00:23 < BrandonW> No... 00:23 < TD-Linux> oh OK 00:23 < TD-Linux> RAM dump is next... 00:23 * Grue` goes back to scheming for his podcast Geek Cred 00:23 < Kurttank> So what, is it gonna be like the 85 where you have to use an exploit? 00:24 < BrandonW> More than likely. 00:24 < Kurttank> Doesn't it have a color screen? 00:24 < BrandonW> No. 00:24 < Kurttank> I can't remember 00:24 < Kurttank> oh 00:25 < j-b-r> I think there are som Casios and HPs with color screens... 00:25 < BrandonW> There are. 00:25 < Kurttank> Feh. 00:25 <@chronomex> not HPs iirc, just Crappio 00:25 < Kurttank> Can you program THEM? 00:25 <@chronomex> sooorta 00:25 < BrandonW> In a very crappy way, sure. 00:25 <@chronomex> but who cares? 00:25 < Kurttank> well sorta don't get shit done 00:25 < BrandonW> If you want to make your own link cable, have at it. 00:26 < BrandonW> I saw color Mario once. 00:26 < TD-Linux> has anyone looked at the software that makes .tns files? 00:26 < BrandonW> Yes, TD-Linux, there's already been a document creator. 00:26 < BrandonW> Well not OSes, we have no idea how OS files are made. 00:26 < TD-Linux> yeah I've seen it used 00:26 < Kurttank> .tns? 00:26 < Kurttank> what's that? 00:26 < TD-Linux> teacher has a bunch of USB hubs 00:26 < BrandonW> An Nspire upgrade. 00:26 < TD-Linux> you "login" and it transfers data 00:26 < Kurttank> oh 00:26 < TD-Linux> .tns is actually a document format IIRC? 00:26 < TD-Linux> not an OS upgrade 00:27 < BrandonW> Right. 00:27 < BrandonW> There have already been attempts to intentionally corrupt them and crash the Nspire. 00:27 < TD-Linux> they can't figure out the compressiom method 00:27 < TD-Linux> so simply look at the document creator? 00:27 < BrandonW> The compression method for what? 00:27 < TD-Linux> .tns files 00:28 < BrandonW> I couldn't say, I don't care about document files. 00:29 < Kurttank> what is the opinion on BBC BASIC? 00:29 < BrandonW> None of us use it. 00:30 < BrandonW> It's an interpreted language just like BASIC is. 00:30 < Kurttank> I see 00:30 < BrandonW> So I personally consider it a waste of time, except to easily run BBC BASIC programs from other platforms on your calculator. 00:30 < BrandonW> Which I don't do either. 00:31 < Kurttank> how well does the 89 do C? If it's good enough, I might consider the expense worth it 00:32 < BrandonW> Most people write in C for it, but assembly's obviously better. 00:32 < Kurttank> well yeah 00:32 <@chronomex> TIGCC is pretty good 00:32 < Kurttank> assembly for PC's is better than C on PC's, too 00:32 <@chronomex> yeah 00:32 < TD-Linux> 68k handles C well 00:32 <@chronomex> the ROI there is smaller 00:32 <@chronomex> so C makes more sense 00:32 < BrandonW> Yeah, but it's impractical on a PC unless you're doing really time-sensitive stuff. 00:32 <@chronomex> but 68k has a nice instruction set 00:33 <@chronomex> I like 68k 00:33 < Kurttank> I want one ;_; 00:33 <@chronomex> do you have $120? 00:33 < Kurttank> wait 00:33 < Kurttank> JUST $120?! 00:33 <@chronomex> depends where you buy it sir 00:33 <@chronomex> have you been overpaying for calculators? 00:33 < Kurttank> no 00:34 < Kurttank> got my 84+ for $91 00:34 <@chronomex> http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss?field-keywords=ti-89 00:34 <@chronomex> you overpaid 00:34 < Kurttank> what 00:34 <@chronomex> I wouldn't pay more than $75 for a random z80 calculator 00:34 < Kurttank> by how much 00:34 <@chronomex> probably about 15 00:34 < Kurttank> aww damn 00:35 <@chronomex> 's no biggie 00:35 < Kurttank> I'm keeping the 84 00:35 <@chronomex> aye 00:35 < Kurttank> but I a SO ordering an 89T 00:35 <@chronomex> BrandonW will approve 00:35 <@chronomex> how much did you think it would be? 00:35 < Kurttank> like $180-$200 00:35 < BrandonW> You can find 89s for $180 if you look hard enough. 00:35 < BrandonW> Crazy, I know. 00:35 < BrandonW> It's nonsense, they started out at $150. 00:36 <@chronomex> they still retail at epsstore for $149.99 00:36 < BrandonW> They've always been that. 00:37 < BrandonW> My first 89 was $150. 00:37 < Kurttank> I just want my Super Mario 68K. Doom is getting old, tetris is boring, phoenix can only be so much fun for so long, and I already beat desolate 00:37 <@chronomex> I think mine was like 137 or something, I got it from officemax in 1999 00:37 <@chronomex> HW2 :\ 00:37 < BrandonW> HW1. :) 00:37 <@chronomex> fucker 00:37 < Kurttank> what's the difference? 00:37 < BrandonW> HW1 is superior. 00:37 <@chronomex> +1 00:37 < BrandonW> Better grayscale. 00:37 <@chronomex> HW2 has shit TI put in to make our lives harder 00:38 -!- JoeYoung [~Joe@c-98-200-24-14.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 00:38 < Kurttank> ok... What do they sell now? 00:38 <@chronomex> HW3 is the titanium 00:38 < BrandonW> HW3 and HW4. 00:38 <@chronomex> hw4 is the current titanium 00:38 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v JoeYoung] by efneTI85 00:38 < Kurttank> is it any good? 00:38 <@chronomex> nobody knows what the difference is between 3 and 4 00:38 < BrandonW> You'll never find a HW1 again. 00:38 <@chronomex> maybe as a display model at some officemax in hickville 00:38 -!- DSP_Lord [~darksidep@h242.157.16.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 287 seconds] 00:38 <@chronomex> I think they just did the 3 -> 4 to make me wonder what the difference is 00:38 < Kurttank> Ok... Does the HW3/4 have the shit they put on HW2? 00:38 <@chronomex> yes. 00:38 < BrandonW> Does Kevin Kofler claim there's a difference? 00:38 <@chronomex> BrandonW: I don't know 00:39 < BrandonW> Or does he stay silent becaues he doesn't know? 00:39 < Kurttank> What exactly makes HW2 sucks? 00:39 <@chronomex> the details are boring and not really easy to explain from scratch 00:39 < BrandonW> They made grayscale harder on it. 00:40 < BrandonW> Doesn't it have more memory than HW1 or something? 00:40 <@chronomex> suffice it to say that they made greyscale take more CPU time, and made the assembly program size limit from 64k to 8k/24k (depending on OS version) 00:40 < BrandonW> I remember eons ago the AMS eating up some of it with 2.x. 00:40 < BrandonW> Or something. 00:40 <@chronomex> hw2 has a bit more flash 00:40 <@chronomex> hw2 also has a different Protection mechanism 00:40 < BrandonW> It sounds like they've been busy. 00:40 <@chronomex> read j89hw.txt for boring details 00:41 <@chronomex> BrandonW: ti? when have they EVER been busy? 00:41 < BrandonW> Compared to the z80s. 00:41 < Kurttank> ^ 00:41 < BrandonW> In adding protections. 00:41 < BrandonW> And keeping things up to date. 00:41 <@chronomex> nah, they only did it once 00:41 < Kurttank> protections...? 00:41 <@chronomex> 17:41:04 < PurpleJesus> Tivo is great, can watch a 3 hour game in 30 minutes. 00:41 <+JoeYoung> DUDE 00:41 <@chronomex> 17:41:27 < zandi> but i wonder if that means you have to drink 3 hours worth of beer in 30 minutes for the full experience 00:41 < TD-Linux> BrandonW, I don't see any flash dumps 00:41 -!- genololo [~birds@69.37.166.26] has joined #tcpa 00:41 < TD-Linux> how do you know they made them? 00:41 < BrandonW> TD-Linux, ... 00:41 <+JoeYoung> HG/SS rom released :D 00:41 < BrandonW> I never said they did. 00:41 <@chronomex> Kurttank: things to keep us from having fun 00:41 < Kurttank> ugh 00:41 <+JoeYoung> :) 00:42 < TD-Linux> BrandonW, I thought you said hardware guys dumped the NAND and it was encrypted 00:42 < BrandonW> No, I said hardware guys TRIED and failed, and that if you want to, have at it. 00:42 < TD-Linux> oh okay 00:42 < BrandonW> We already know it's encrypted. 00:42 < TD-Linux> I wonder if the boot ROM is too 00:42 -!- LordMathi [~darksidep@h168.238.55.139.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has joined #tcpa 00:42 < Kurttank> Why doesn't TI just build a calc that let's programmers have a field day? 00:42 < BrandonW> That's a good question. 00:43 < BrandonW> We're stil waiting on an answer. 00:43 < _Digital> because it would invalidate their AMS and bprobably only be used for games 00:43 < Kurttank> after how long? 00:43 < Kurttank> what 00:43 <@chronomex> HP did that 00:43 < Kurttank> AMS? 00:43 < BrandonW> 10 years? 00:43 < BrandonW> AMS is what the OS is called on the 68ks. 00:43 < Kurttank> oh 00:43 < _Digital> does all teh math stuffs 00:43 < Kurttank> what did HP do? 00:43 < _Digital> but no spelling... 00:44 -!- Genolo [~birds@69.37.166.26] has quit [Ping timeout: 369 seconds] 00:44 -!- genololo is now known as Genolo 00:44 < BrandonW> They made their calculators open. 00:44 < _Digital> they use RPN too 00:44 < Kurttank> do they have a following like TI's? 00:45 < BrandonW> Yes, but not as large. 00:45 < Kurttank> RPN? What 00:45 < BrandonW> Reverse Polish Notation, google it. 00:45 < _Digital> Reverse Polish Notation 00:45 < Kurttank> oh GOD I HATE RPN 00:45 < Kurttank> RAAAAAAGEE 00:45 < Kurttank> Darwinbots 2 DNA code is in RPN. 00:45 < Kurttank> And 00:45 < Kurttank> i 00:45 < Kurttank> hate 00:45 < Kurttank> it 00:46 <@chronomex> RPN is awesome 00:46 <@chronomex> I remember back in the day someone wrote an RPN mode for 68k 00:46 < Kurttank> RPN sucks total ass if you are trying to do anything lengthy 00:46 <@chronomex> nooo 00:46 < Kurttank> Like PROGRAM 00:46 <@chronomex> I like RPN 00:47 < Kurttank> Anything I write in RPN ends up three times as long as it would be in standard. 00:47 < Kurttank> and it makes long single lines of code nearly impossible to do 00:48 < Kurttank> it's a total mindfuck 00:48 <@chronomex> I haven't actually programmed in RPN before :P 00:48 < Kurttank> It's like mathssembly 00:48 < Kurttank> I have 00:48 <@chronomex> c, asm, tibasic, but not rpn 00:48 < Kurttank> you don't want to 00:48 <@chronomex> mathssembly, I like that 00:48 < Kurttank> but trust me 00:48 < Kurttank> you DO NOT WANT to program ANYTHING with RPN 00:49 < TD-Linux> <3 RPN 00:49 <@chronomex> rpn is nice for random calculations 00:49 < TD-Linux> quick! come up with a program for me to write in RPN! 00:49 <@chronomex> I like `dc' 00:49 < Kurttank> Trying to program in RPN is the fastest way to get pissed off. 00:49 < TD-Linux> area of a circle 00:49 -!- TheStorm [~TheStorm@150.30.226.166.in-addr.arpa] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:49 < Kurttank> Here's something. 00:50 < TD-Linux> r,r,*,pi,* 00:50 < Kurttank> google 'Darwinbots' 00:50 < Kurttank> learn the DNA assembly language 00:50 < Kurttank> try and write something complicated 00:50 < Kurttank> THEN tell me you like RPN 00:51 < Kurttank> my eye is seriously twitching from anger built up from all those hours spent reorganizing lines of code 00:51 < _Digital> like anything, each different piece of software fits a different need 00:52 < _Digital> RPN and mathassembly may suck when used together, but that doesn't mean RPMN sucks 00:52 < _Digital> since you already seem to fail at that intuitive logic, I would assume you love RPN 00:52 < Kurttank> what 00:52 < Kurttank> I do great with regular notation 00:52 <@chronomex> what's RPMN? 00:53 < Kurttank> hell, I wrote a raycasting engine in BASIC 00:53 < Kurttank> but if you put it in pollock notation... 00:53 < Kurttank> it gets really hard, REALLY fast 00:53 -!- millinao [~millinao@c-24-22-91-155.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 00:54 < Kurttank> don't think I'm just an angry, yelly person 00:54 <@chronomex> you sound angry and yelly 00:54 < Kurttank> RPN is just one of the few things that REALLY gets my gears grinding 00:54 <@chronomex> call me on the phone 00:54 < Kurttank> lol 00:54 <@chronomex> 206-569-5478 00:54 <@chronomex> don't tell me you're afraid of the phone 00:54 * chronomex afk 00:55 <@chronomex> coward 00:55 <@Andy_J> my (google voice) phone number makes me sound mad 00:55 < Kurttank> I'm in my C++ class, lol 00:55 <@chronomex> when you get out 00:55 <@chronomex> I'm going to the grocery store 00:55 < Kurttank> wait, you're serious? 00:55 <@chronomex> best place to have angry calculator conversations 00:55 <@chronomex> yeah 00:55 < Kurttank> oh wow 00:55 <@chronomex> why have a phone if you never give out the number? 00:55 * Andy_J calls chronomex 00:55 <@Andy_J> (not really) 00:55 * chronomex afk f'realz 00:55 <@chronomex> someone better call me 00:56 <@chronomex> or I'll be back here angrier than ever 00:56 < Kurttank> I just never give anything out to anyone on the internet 00:56 <@Andy_J> call (MAD) AJA-NATA 00:56 <@Andy_J> <3 google voice 00:56 < Kurttank> lol bye 00:56 < BrandonW> I'll talk to anyone. 00:56 < Kurttank> OFF TO THE COMPUTER LAB! 00:57 * Randomist puts on a moustache. 00:58 < Spengo> hum 00:58 < Randomist> This is the TCPA banking corporation, reminding you to update your account information within the next thirty (30) days. 00:58 < Spengo> my heuristic AI isn't very good :/ 00:59 < Spengo> it only beats the random player about 80% of the time 00:59 < Kurttank> what? 00:59 < Kurttank> heuristic AI? 00:59 < Spengo> heuristic is a smart-person way to say rule-based 00:59 < Kurttank> wait 00:59 < Kurttank> that's bad? 00:59 < Spengo> like, I make rules that tell it what's a better move to make 00:59 < Kurttank> Dude, 80 success against random is like a godsend for me 00:59 < Spengo> most games use these, no learning or anything 00:59 <+Ox40Work> hey, i was thinking of making a judgement based AI 00:59 < Spengo> wtf lol 00:59 <+Ox40Work> sounds fun 01:00 < Kurttank> I made an AI once 01:00 < Spengo> ya well I'll do fancier AI later, AI seems like a fun class so far 01:00 < Kurttank> for rock-paper-scissors 01:00 < millinao> neural net, DO IT 01:00 < Spengo> but yeah, heuristic, I want mine to be better 01:00 < Spengo> see we're having a stratego AI tournament 01:00 < Spengo> and I wanna win 01:00 < Kurttank> Mine was what could be described as a crude, tiny neural net 01:00 < Kurttank> I want to be in an AI tournament ;_; 01:01 < Spengo> all it does is, if an enemy 1 has been detected and my SPAI is next to it, kill it, and if any of my pieces are next to a visible enemy piece of lower rank, kill it 01:01 < Spengo> and if none of that works, pick a random front line piece to move forwards one 01:01 < Spengo> and if that doesn't work do a random move 01:01 < Spengo> I dunno what else to put in D: 01:01 < Spengo> oh I thought of something 01:01 < Kurttank> cool 01:02 < Kurttank> My RPS bot was a simple predictor 01:02 < Spengo> maybe make the move forwards and random fail if they are running into an enemy of higher rank 01:02 < Spengo> so it doesn't blindly kill pieces 01:02 < Kurttank> used the move that would beat the average response to it's last move 01:03 < Kurttank> locked on to simple test bot's pretty quick 01:03 < Spengo> actually it seems to be more like a 75% success rate 01:03 < Spengo> that was just a good 100rd run 01:03 < Spengo> vs. random 01:03 < Spengo> :/ 01:03 < Kurttank> for some reason, the version I rewrote in C++ doesn't work as well... 01:03 < Spengo> MUST BE BETTER 01:03 < Kurttank> wait 01:03 < Kurttank> agains random? 01:03 < Spengo> yeah 01:03 < Kurttank> dude, that's impeccable 01:04 < Spengo> how is that good? 01:04 < Kurttank> I think where my TIBASIC has the C++ version beat was that it used a number of addon programs as subroutines, called 'equippment' 01:05 < Kurttank> Most were to deal with memory constraints and long lists slowing the calc to a crawl, but a few allowed it to change it's strategy 01:06 < Kurttank> it's good (at least in rock paper scissors) because there is no real opposing strategy to develop a counter to. 01:06 -!- Randomist [~winterven@216.117.122.209] has quit [Quit: leaving] 01:06 < Kurttank> But stratego... I've never played. 01:06 < _Digital> I have a load average of ~5 and I don't have full CPU load on my Q6700... 01:07 < Kurttank> Q6700? 01:07 < _Digital> Core 2 Quad, I'm not talking about calculators 01:08 < Kurttank> I know 01:08 < Kurttank> multicores are friggin great :) 01:10 -!- Ox40Work [~KevinK@68-117-29-62.static.fdul.wi.charter.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 01:13 < _Digital> now I'm over 6... 01:14 < _Digital> still have 1 core nut fully loaded 01:14 < _Digital> this isn't a disk I/O bound process 01:16 < Spengo> damn 01:17 < Spengo> making sure it doesn't make a stupid move did not significantly improve performance 01:17 < Spengo> :/ 01:20 < sir_lewk> http://www.cs.drexel.edu/~jlg95/stuff/otp.tar.bz2 one time pad implementation in C, using /dev/random :) 01:21 < sir_lewk> cause I rock like that 01:21 < Kurttank> I don't like heuristic AI 01:22 < sir_lewk> oh? 01:22 < Kurttank> Mostly because I have only done RPS and using Heuristics in RPS is a death wish, but still. 01:22 < sir_lewk> heuristic driven AI is generally the most practical 01:22 < Kurttank> true 01:22 < sir_lewk> other stuff like neural nets are completely impractical for game AIs 01:22 < Kurttank> yeah 01:22 -!- LordMathi [~darksidep@h168.238.55.139.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 287 seconds] 01:23 < sir_lewk> oh sweet, Deep Blue is on 01:26 -!- LordMathi [~darksidep@h104.147.28.71.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has joined #tcpa 01:27 < Kurttank> so, before I go, any 84+ game suggestions? 01:27 < Kurttank> inb4 Desolate 01:28 < j-b-r> gemini 01:28 < j-b-r> that new gameboy emulator 01:28 < Kurttank> gemini? 01:28 < Kurttank> wassat 01:28 < j-b-r> fps 01:28 < Kurttank> meh, TI-boy is HEUG 01:28 < Kurttank> Oh yeah 01:28 < Kurttank> Saw that 01:28 < Kurttank> I'll check it out 01:29 < Kurttank> anything else? 01:29 < Kurttank> I'm running MOS1.2, btw 01:30 < BrandonW> It's really best to just look at the ticalc.org archives, that's where everything worth anything is. 01:30 < Kurttank> yeah, I know 01:30 < Kurttank> I looked through practically the whole thing yesterday 01:30 < Kurttank> Just wanna know if you guys have any favorites 01:31 < Kurttank> All I here at school is "YOU GOTTA GET MARIO LOL" 01:31 < Kurttank> >Here 01:31 < Kurttank> Lol grammar 01:32 < BrandonW> Most of the people here don't even have calculators anymore. 01:32 < BrandonW> The channel sort of degraded into random talk 01:32 < Kurttank> also, does DoorsCS's CALCnet really work? 01:32 < BrandonW> Instead of calculators. 01:32 < BrandonW> I doubt it. 01:32 < Kurttank> what 01:32 < Kurttank> oh man 01:32 -!- TheStorm [~TheStorm@150.30.226.166.in-addr.arpa] has joined #tcpa 01:32 < efneTI92> [TheStorm] Yes rivereye, it is time to go fishing. 01:32 < Kurttank> where do pepole WITH calcs go? 01:32 < _Digital> he just gave you a brief overview of the channel 01:32 < _Digital> here is one place 01:33 < BrandonW> If I knew, I'd be there. 01:33 < Kurttank> Lol 01:33 < _Digital> programming calculators has become a dying trend :( 01:33 < Kurttank> yep 01:33 < Merthsoft> i have a calc 01:33 < Kurttank> gotta get the kids fired up, man 01:34 < Kurttank> But really. In your experience, what would the best games to download be? 01:34 <+glk> I defend the TI-89T against all enemies 01:34 < Kurttank> lol 01:34 < Kurttank> I want an 89T 01:34 < _Digital> glk our resident tin man 01:35 < sir_lewk> glk is a TI Knight :) 01:35 < _Digital> surprised you chimed in without being summoned this time glk 01:35 <+glk> My url has much TI-89 data http://grahamkendall.net/ 01:35 < _Digital> there we go 01:35 < _Digital> glk:++ 01:35 <+glk> in MATH 01:35 < _Digital> and by much he means several GB in text files 01:35 < BrandonW> We've already told you, no one in here plays games anymore. 01:35 < BrandonW> The ticalc.org archives is your only hope. 01:36 < BrandonW> And glk is a robot. 01:36 < BrandonW> As far as games and assembly/C programs, he cannot help you. 01:36 < Kurttank> lol 01:36 < Kurttank> Glk 01:36 < Kurttank> hey glk 01:36 < _Digital> !qfind tin men 01:36 <@efneTI86> 1511:netham45: glk is a robot, if you hadn't noticed. | Tin men have rights too 01:36 <@efneTI86> (All of 1 match) 01:36 < _Digital> !qfind glk is a bot 01:36 <@efneTI86> No matches 01:37 < _Digital> !qfind glk is mistaken as a bot 01:37 <@efneTI86> No matches 01:37 < _Digital> !qfind glk 01:37 <@efneTI86> 894:Zeromus: Bosh: is this where i get help with my calculator? | Tari: you can, yes | Tari: one of several possible places | glk: Which calc? | BrandonW: Not the 89. 01:37 <@efneTI86> 944:DSP_Lord: I studied all night to pass my Turing test | heh | When did you do this? | Feb 30 | that was a while ago | I thought you were going to say something like 1947. | XD 01:37 < Kurttank> how do you summon him? 01:37 <@efneTI86> 786:DarkAuron: I use a TI-89T. Ask if you want my data on it | do you have data on how easy it is to open the case? when compared against a traditional TI-89 case? | no | I'd be much interested in such data 01:37 <@efneTI86> (Plus 13 more matches: http://tcpa.aardy.net/quotes/?filter=glk&channel=tcpa&search=search) 01:37 < BrandonW> Mention the 89. 01:37 < _Digital> ^ 01:37 < BrandonW> And you need help with it. 01:37 < Kurttank> lol 01:37 < BrandonW> Except he refers to assembly/C programs as "assy" programs. 01:37 < Kurttank> ok 01:38 < Kurttank> ach-hem... 01:38 < BrandonW> He ran one once and it crashed and he had to take the batteries out. 01:38 < Kurttank> The TI-89 is bollocks 01:38 < BrandonW> See how genius it is? We regurtitate this stuff for him instead of him doing it. 01:38 < _Digital> Kurttank, say that blasphemy again and get kicked 01:38 < BrandonW> regurgitate* 01:38 <+glk> The new TI-89T has better printing on the face 01:39 < Kurttank> dude, I'm trying to get dlk to speak 01:39 < Kurttank> lol 01:39 < _Digital> glk, not dlk 01:39 -!- i_c-Y [Icy@cpe-69-204-242-163.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa 01:39 < efneTI92> [i_c-Y] It's like I'm the last sane person on Earth. 01:39 < Kurttank> oh, there he is 01:39 < _Digital> hey i_c-Y 01:39 < Kurttank> I said dlk? 01:39 < Kurttank> oh dang, typo 01:39 <+glk> My older TI-89T developed problems, cured by a new OS 01:40 < Kurttank> Hello glk 01:40 <+glk> Hi 01:40 < Kurttank> you're a curious little fellow 01:40 <+glk> I am old and very wise. 01:40 < _Digital> ^ 01:40 <+glk> I just turned 77 01:40 < Kurttank> Is he really a bot or is it a running gag? 01:40 <@chronomex> ~it's hard to tell 01:40 < BrandonW> He's fun to play with for a while, but then you wish you could pull the batteries out and put him back on the shelf. 01:41 < Merthsoft> just like BrandonW 01:41 < sir_lewk> D: 01:41 < Kurttank> lol 01:41 < BrandonW> Not a bot, a robot. 01:41 < sir_lewk> yall are just jealous because glk has way more data then the rest of you 01:41 < BrandonW> Doubtful. 01:42 < sir_lewk> on the 89 01:42 < Merthsoft> he certainly knows more about 89s than i 01:42 <+glk> I am a retired physicist 01:42 < sir_lewk> I doubt someone can have more z80 data than BrandonW or course 01:42 < _Digital> !qsay 1591 01:42 <@efneTI86> 1591: 4 is an integer, it has no intristic random/nonrandom value ;) | 4 keeps 3 and 5 seperate and thus has great value [Added chronomex at 2009/03/23 00:40] 01:42 < _Digital> !qsay 1533 01:42 <@efneTI86> 1533: I am old and very wise. | <_Digital> and get confused for a bot sometimes [Added chronomex at 2009/02/09 00:26] 01:42 < sir_lewk> haha 01:42 < _Digital> !qsay 1088 01:42 <@efneTI86> 1088: * patz2009 pokes glk | Shields UP [Added chronomex at 2007/10/22 23:49] 01:43 < _Digital> !qsay 1050 01:43 <@efneTI86> 1050: I left my 89 at work. | My url has vast 89 data in MATH http://grahamkendall.net/ | lol | I knew it! [Added patz2009 at 2007/09/20 00:20] 01:43 < _Digital> all done for now 01:44 <@chronomex> dude, nobody called me 01:44 < Merthsoft> !qfind poop 01:44 <@efneTI86> 1571:DarkAuron: my poops have been getting HUGE | <_Auron|DS> with huge guts? | yeah almost rip and tear worthy 01:44 <@chronomex> lamers 01:44 <@efneTI86> 967:Andy_J: http://tcpa.aardy.net/quotes/?filter=poop&search=search&channel=tcpa <-- That's sad | there isn't a single tcpa quote with the word poop in it... | its sad that you searched for it 01:44 < Merthsoft> chronomex: i don't have your number 01:44 <@efneTI86> (All of 2 matches) 01:44 < Merthsoft> oh wow 01:44 <@chronomex> i posted it in here less than an hour ago 01:45 < Merthsoft> i call a motion to delete 1571 01:45 <@chronomex> !qdel 1571 01:45 <@efneTI86> Deleted quote 1571 01:45 <@chronomex> seconded 01:45 < _Digital> dude 01:45 < BrandonW> But it wasn't thirded. 01:45 < _Digital> ^ 01:45 < Merthsoft> chronomex: ringing 01:45 <@chronomex> readd it then 01:46 < BrandonW> Conference me in. :( 01:46 < _Digital> no way am I tagging my nick to that shit 01:46 < _Digital> no pun intended 01:46 < BrandonW> LIAR 01:46 < BrandonW> I think it WAS intended. 01:46 < _Digital> and you're a paranoid schizophrenic... 01:47 < BrandonW> You don't know that. 01:47 < _Digital> yes I do 01:48 < sir_lewk> my whole family is bashing Deep Blue right now because "it's unrealistic" 01:48 < sir_lewk> :/ 01:48 < Kurttank> what 01:49 < leofox> sup tcpa 01:49 < sir_lewk> they are idiots who make movies unenjoyable for themselves because they get hung up on trivial points 01:49 < leofox> yeah that sucks man 01:50 < _Digital> hey leofox 01:50 < leofox> sup digital 01:50 < _Digital> a ceiling 01:50 < sir_lewk> me too :O 01:50 < leofox> hey gus 01:50 < leofox> im drunk :P 01:50 < Kurttank> cro 01:50 < BrandonW> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0365109/board/nest/60266604 I'm not sure what's more disturbing about this, the fact that it exists or the fact that no one posted saying "you people are idiots". 01:50 < Kurttank> gimmie your number 01:50 < _Digital> who is gus? 01:51 < leofox> Kurttank NL? 01:52 < Kurttank> ohshit 01:52 < Kurttank> rain 01:52 < Kurttank> can't use my blackberry in the rain! 01:52 < Kurttank> leo what did you say? 01:52 < leofox> nvm 01:52 < sir_lewk> I bet none of those people have even smoked pot 01:53 < leofox> is deep blue fun when you are stoned? 01:53 < sir_lewk> dunno, can't imagine it's much different than any other action movie 01:53 < Kurttank> Chronomex 01:53 < sir_lewk> it's just sharks... 01:54 < Kurttank> I can call u nao :3 01:54 < leofox> it's about the seas? 01:55 < Kurttank> SPLIT YOUR LUNGS WITH BLOOD AND THUNDER 01:55 < Kurttank> WHEN YOU SEE THE WHILE WHALE 01:55 < Kurttank> lol 01:55 < leofox> break your backs and crack your oars men 01:56 < Kurttank> yepo 01:56 < Kurttank> Idea for a calc game 01:56 < i_c-Y> hi _Digital 01:56 < Kurttank> WHITE WHALE: 01:56 < Kurttank> Holy Grail 01:57 * _Digital compiles binutils, gcc, and glibc again to complete the switch from gcc 4.3.4 to 4.4.1 01:57 < Kurttank> You catch that damned whale with a a harpoon 01:57 < Kurttank> what? 01:57 < Kurttank> gcc? 01:57 < _Digital> GNU C Compiler 01:57 < Kurttank> oh 01:57 < Kurttank> that's right 01:58 < TheStorm> why does synaptics have to emulate the scroll wheel on windows rather than just acting like one :/ 01:58 < leofox> gcc is shit 01:58 < leofox> the windows compiler is bettar 01:58 < Kurttank> I have Dev C++ 01:58 < sir_lewk> gcc is alright, the main issue with it imho is it isn't strict enough by default 01:59 < sir_lewk> that uses gcc 01:59 < Kurttank> Oh yeah 01:59 -!- leofox [leofox@leofox.student.utwente.nl] has quit [] 01:59 < sir_lewk> gcc will attempt to compile a steaming pile of dogshit, and will often actually get something that runs. the issue with that is then problems can go unnoticed 02:00 < Kurttank> huh. 02:00 < Kurttank> odd. 02:01 < Kurttank> Shoul I get something else, then? 02:01 < sir_lewk> nah, it's fine 02:01 < Kurttank> ok 02:01 < sir_lewk> it's what I use >_> 02:01 < Kurttank> lol 02:01 < _Digital> do you always ask questions pertaining to things imediately said just so you can say something, Kurttank 02:01 < Kurttank> maybe ._. 02:01 < sir_lewk> lol 02:02 < Kurttank> I'm probably the only one who doesn't have another window open at the same time, though 02:03 < sir_lewk> I've got an xterm with vim open on this desktop, a ton of other stuff on others 02:03 <@chronomex> Kurttank: sure, call me then 02:04 < Kurttank> I'm on a phone ._. 02:04 <@chronomex> ...? 02:04 < Kurttank> talking to lewk 02:04 < Kurttank> number please 02:04 <@chronomex> oh lol ok 02:04 <@chronomex> 206-569-5478 02:05 < Merthsoft> i wanna call BrandonW 02:05 < BrandonW> So call me. 02:05 < Merthsoft> ok 02:06 < Merthsoft> >:| 02:06 < Kurttank> great conversation 02:06 <@chronomex> why didn't you say anything? 02:06 < Kurttank> I dunno 02:07 < Kurttank> couldn't think of anything 02:07 < Kurttank> alright, later guys 02:07 < sir_lewk> lul 02:07 <@chronomex> ... lame 02:07 -!- Kurttank [~Kurttank@32.170.90.211] has quit [hdudjwusddjskduydf] 02:08 < sir_lewk> <== 1-717-451-1165 02:09 < sir_lewk> but I don't have it with me right now :/ 02:09 < sir_lewk> cricket_b is 546-762-7365 though :) 02:09 -!- Tar1 [~Tari@emcnair-79-224.resnet.mtu.edu] has joined #tcpa 02:09 < efneTI92> [Tar1] Remember, remember the 5th of November 02:09 <@chronomex> olo 02:10 < i_c-Y> who the hell wants to talk on a phone? 02:11 <@chronomex> only those of the finest grade of intelligence 02:11 -!- Randomist [~winterven@216.117.123.201] has joined #tcpa 02:11 < efneTI92> [Randomist] CAUTION: Exposure to this user may cause neurological damage. 02:11 -!- Randomis1 [~winterven@216.117.123.201] has joined #tcpa 02:11 -!- Randomis1 is now known as Rand|DCMP 02:12 < i_c-Y> chronomex: i doubt that if sir_lewk , Merthsoft and cricket_b belong in that group. 02:12 < Merthsoft> :( 02:12 <@chronomex> well you don't, so OBVIOUSLY it's got a no-retards policy 02:13 <@chronomex> and cricket doesn't, he just had his d0x dropped 02:13 < sir_lewk> hey :( 02:13 < Merthsoft> yay 02:13 < Merthsoft> it's #tcpa on the telephone night 02:14 < sir_lewk> my brother just said "I want to see snakes on a plane" 02:14 < sir_lewk> 10 minutes after saying "deep blue is stupid because it's campy and unrealistic" 02:14 <@chronomex> 812-462-9299 is a conference bridge 02:15 -!- Rand|DCMP is now known as Rand|Dorm 02:17 < sir_lewk> phones are overrated 02:18 < Merthsoft> i like talking to BrandonW 02:18 < BrandonW> How could you not? 02:18 < BrandonW> Just get me started on something if you want to hear a personal rant. 02:18 < Merthsoft> yeah 02:18 < Merthsoft> what topics really get you going? 02:19 -!- LordMathi [~darksidep@h104.147.28.71.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 287 seconds] 02:20 < _Digital> so I was bored and downloaded a couple videos for Halo ODST 02:20 < BrandonW> Anything gets me going. 02:20 < BrandonW> I can go on and on. 02:20 < _Digital> I knew three of teh actors from Firefly/Serenity were voices in the game, but I didn't think they were the 3 major characters 02:21 < Merthsoft> NOW YOU KNOW 02:21 < sir_lewk> dude, Adam Baldwin is badass 02:22 < sir_lewk> he played Jayne in Firefly, and Animal Mother in Full Metal Jacket 02:22 < sir_lewk> and did voices in halo iirc 02:22 -!- Tari [~Tari@emcnair-79-224.resnet.mtu.edu] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 02:23 < Merthsoft> and played that one guy in chuck 02:22 < sir_lewk> also, he somehow doesn't age, looks exactly the same in firefly as he did in full metal jacket 02:24 -!- LordMathi [~darksidep@h104.239.55.139.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has joined #tcpa 02:24 < Spengo> damn 02:24 < efneTI92> [LordMathi] I'm not a ninja, no idea what you're talking about. 02:24 < Spengo> I'm losing to my AI 02:24 < Spengo> D: 02:24 < Spengo> and it doesn't even do that well against random 02:25 < _Digital> sir_lewk, adam baldwin, nathan fillian and I cannot remember the pilots name/character 02:25 < _Digital> all three did voices in Halo 3 and are characters in odst 02:25 < Spengo> oh I got his spai 02:25 < Spengo> I can win now 02:26 < _Digital> LordMathi, are you playing ODST or avoiding it due to your crappy time in Halo 3? 02:27 < sir_lewk> adam baldwin is my favorite though 02:27 < Spengo> ok I won 02:27 < Spengo> that wasn't really fair though 02:27 < Spengo> I mean... I know how the AI works 02:28 < _Digital> I like nathan fillian more so due to the whit 02:28 < Spengo> if it's got a piece next to one of my pieces that it knows what it is, and if it's piece is of lesser rank, it will not attack it, but it WILL attack otherwise 02:28 < Spengo> so i can easily wipe out it's forces 02:28 < Spengo> just knowing that 02:28 < Spengo> oh it didn't attack me, must be a smaller piece, bam dead 02:29 < sir_lewk> Animal Mother is one of my favorite movie characters ever 02:30 < Tar1> I was playing Halo 3 and totally recognized Nathan Fillion 02:30 < Tar1> I 'squeee'd a little inside 02:37 -!- Goplat [~goplat@76-191-156-24.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has joined #tcpa 02:37 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Goplat] by efneTI89 02:37 -!- Genolo [~birds@69.37.166.26] has quit [Quit: (19:34:49)» DOCTOR HERR BINOMIAL, I'VE FOILED YOUR EVIL FACTORS] 02:39 < patori> hey does anyone know any good md5 solutions for c? 02:40 < mokomull> ... go find GNU md5sum? 02:40 -!- Netham45 [~YouJustGo@c-67-166-1-212.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:40 -!- Netham45 [~YouJustGo@c-67-166-1-212.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 02:41 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Netham45] by Remius, efneTI89 02:41 -!- _Auron_ [~DarkAuron@adsl-76-203-204-220.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #tcpa 02:41 < efneTI92> [_Auron_] We called it Sin. 02:41 -!- mode/#tcpa [+o _Auron_] by efneTI86 02:42 <@chronomex> patori: TIOS has MD5 builtin 02:43 <@chronomex> if you're on 68k, see TIGCC's rsa.h 02:43 <@chronomex> if you're on z80, see BrandonW 02:46 -!- Merthsoft [~Shaun@140.141.29.184] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 02:46 -!- TheStorm [~TheStorm@150.30.226.166.in-addr.arpa] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:46 -!- Rand|Dorm [~winterven@216.117.123.201] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:47 < BrandonW> Boot code BCALLs _MD5Init, _MD5Update, and _MDFinal. 02:47 < BrandonW> _MD5Final* 02:47 -!- Genolo [~birds@69.37.166.26] has joined #tcpa 02:47 < BrandonW> WikiTI has more information. 02:47 < BrandonW> And there's a bug in certain versions of the boot code for _MD5Final. 02:47 < BrandonW> The WikiTI page has replacement code you can use that doesn't have the bug. 02:48 < BrandonW> This is all assuming he was talking about the calculator, which I highly doubt. 02:54 -!- DarkLord_ [~DarkLord@96-42-27-74.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 02:55 <@chronomex> yeah 02:55 <@chronomex> this IS #tcpa after all 02:55 -!- DarkLord_ [~DarkLord@96-42-27-74.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #tcpa 02:56 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v DarkLord_] by efneTI89 02:57 -!- i_c-Y [Icy@cpe-69-204-242-163.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:02 -!- j-b-r [~j-b-r@ip98-169-89-44.dc.dc.cox.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.2/20090729225027]] 03:03 -!- DarkLord_ [~DarkLord@96-42-27-74.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 03:04 -!- DarkLord_ [~DarkLord@96-42-27-74.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #tcpa 03:04 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v DarkLord_] by efneTI80, etaonrish, SnowCrash 03:30 -!- dietsche_ [~dietsche@24-240-43-50.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #tcpa 03:30 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v dietsche_] by efneTI85 03:30 <+dietsche_> BrandonW: 03:31 -!- Merthsoft [~Shaun@140.141.29.184] has joined #tcpa 03:32 -!- dietsche_ is now known as dietsche 03:33 -!- dietsche [~dietsche@24-240-43-50.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has quit [Client Quit] 03:36 -!- incubus [incubus__@98.194.19.98] has joined #tcpa 03:36 -!- Randomist [~winterven@216.117.123.201] has quit [Quit: leaving] 03:36 < incubus> BrandonW, you there 03:37 -!- Randomist [~Vampire@216.117.123.201] has joined #tcpa 03:39 -!- Rand[USB] [~MicroVamp@216.117.123.201] has joined #tcpa 03:41 <+Netham45> !q 03:41 <@efneTI86> 988: i jsut cracked open a 9v | lo and behold, 6 AAAAs [Added: slythe at 2007/08/20 23:01] 03:43 <@chronomex> ha, I added that one 03:43 <@chronomex> !q 03:43 <@efneTI86> 843: * MikeKnoop has quit IRC (cya later) | < andy|log> lies | < allynfolk> !k MikeKnoop I can't kick you because you quit! | -!- MikeKnoop was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [Nikky: I can't kick you because you quit!] | < allynfolk> what??? [Added: prime38 at 2006/12/14 01:20] 03:45 -!- LordMathi [~darksidep@h104.239.55.139.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 287 seconds] 03:46 <@E-J> of course i read 9v as 9-year-old because finnish word for year is vuosi 03:47 <@chronomex> !q 03:47 <@efneTI86> 687: <+BrandonW> So just what is it that I CAN do as +v? | <+BrandonW> Other than look inferior? | < Andy_J> BrandonW: change the topic |< Nikky> kill people | < sjrberg> You can look inferior =P | <+BrandonW> I don't need +v to kill people. BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! [Added: Andy_J at 2006/09/05 20:34] 03:49 -!- LordMathi [~darksidep@h254.147.28.71.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has joined #tcpa 03:49 <@_Auron_> !q 03:49 <@efneTI86> 1026: Speler: theres always metacafe | all those sites consist of 12 year old cam whores talking about their life sucking | ive got better things to do than watch that | ie masturbate. | <+Captain_A> I prefer to mix the masturbation and the cam whores but maybe thats just me | ill qadd that as a warning, Captain_A | !k Captain_A child porn [Added: i_c-Y at 2007/09/09 17:11] 03:50 < Tar1> I fear I may have bricked my MPLAB ICD 03:51 -!- Merthsoft [~Shaun@140.141.29.184] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 03:55 -!- i_c-Y [~Icy@cpe-69-204-242-163.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa 03:56 <@chronomex> every time I see "metacafe" I read "meatcafe" 03:56 < efneTI92> [i_c-Y] It's like I'm the last sane person on Earth. 03:56 < Rand[USB]> Wow, these dorm PCs suck. 03:56 <@E-J> well, they are dorm pcs 03:57 < Rand[USB]> But the top-of-the-line PCs go to the women's dorms. 03:57 <@chronomex> goddamn women 03:57 <@E-J> if they would be better, someone would have snached them 03:57 < Rand[USB]> We get the shitty hand-me-downs over here. 03:57 <@chronomex> typical 03:58 < DrDnar> What are the women doing with the best PCs? Some kick-ass IMing? 03:58 <@_Auron_> nah man, speedy facebooking 03:58 <@E-J> yeah 03:59 < Rand[USB]> They need all that processor power for MySpace. 03:59 <@E-J> and here also irc 03:59 <@_Auron_> NO LAG MAN 03:59 < DrDnar> Oh yeah, they need that advanced 64-bit color to make sure their photos of them are just right. 03:59 <@E-J> DrDnar: and they still look too fat in those pictures in their opinion 04:00 < DrDnar> Yup. . . 04:00 < Rand[USB]> n 04:01 < Rand[USB]> Wrong terminal. 04:10 -!- i_c-Y [~Icy@cpe-69-204-242-163.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Insert generic /quit message here. ] 04:10 -!- dankid [~dankid@CPE-72-131-125-188.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa 04:13 < Genolo> i found some old floppy discs in my room 04:13 <@chronomex> FLOOPY DISKS 04:13 < Rand[USB]> I should have bought all mine over here. These computers are so old, they still have floppy drives. :P 04:14 <@chronomex> I have a dual 5.25"/3.5" drive 04:14 < DrDnar> That's talented. 04:15 -!- dankidd [~dankid@CPE-72-131-125-188.wi.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 492 seconds] 04:15 -!- Genolo [~birds@69.37.166.26] has quit [Quit: (19:34:49)» DOCTOR HERR BINOMIAL, I'VE FOILED YOUR EVIL FACTORS] 04:15 -!- Tar1 [~Tari@emcnair-79-224.resnet.mtu.edu] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 04:16 <@E-J> apparently finnish company valio is selling this kind of milk in east coast of usa http://www.hs.fi/kuvat/iso_webkuva/1135249234944.jpeg 04:18 < DrDnar> Lactose free milk? 04:18 <@E-J> yeah 04:18 < DrDnar> But . . . it's not milk! 04:18 <@E-J> in finland those are called as "milk drink" 04:18 <@chronomex> oh, I was expecting milk in bags ... 04:19 <@E-J> DrDnar: milk for those who can't tolerate lactose 04:20 <@E-J> according to article (which is only in finnish) there are 12 million people in east coast who have lactose intoletance 04:21 -!- Genolo [~birds@69.37.166.26] has joined #tcpa 04:29 <@E-J> DrDnar: and they say it tastes like milk, though i think not 04:29 < DrDnar> "Artificial milk flavoring" 04:31 <@E-J> :) well, it is made from milk, they have just removed lactose 04:33 -!- i_c-Y [~Icy@cpe-69-204-242-163.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa 04:33 < efneTI92> [i_c-Y] It's like I'm the last sane person on Earth. 04:38 -!- dankidd [~dankid@CPE-72-131-125-188.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa 04:40 -!- dankid [~dankid@CPE-72-131-125-188.wi.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:11 -!- DarkLord_ [~DarkLord@96-42-27-74.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has quit [Quit: ~ Trillian Astra - www.trillian.im ~] 05:12 -!- i_c-Y [~Icy@cpe-69-204-242-163.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:36 <@Nikky> Merth: done 05:36 <@Nikky> Even though I don't like emacs 05:39 <@chronomex> what? 05:40 < incubus> Damn how much ambien does a person have to take before they start tripping 05:47 < asmand> incubus: have you seen the youtube video with the guy complaining about his robotic arm? 05:47 -!- JoeYoung [~Joe@c-98-200-24-14.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:55 -!- Barrett [~Barrett@75-165-232-156.slkc.qwest.net] has quit [Leaving] 06:01 < sir_lewk> hahaha 06:01 -!- Rand[USB] [~MicroVamp@216.117.123.201] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:01 < sir_lewk> and todays xkcd neatly sums up why I hated Enders Game :) 06:01 -!- Spengo [~Spengo@64.251.241.186] has quit [♥] 06:01 < millinao> I haven't read enders game 06:01 < millinao> should I 06:02 < millinao> I don't like most sci-fi 06:02 -!- LordMathi is now known as DSP_Lord 06:02 < sir_lewk> no 06:02 < DSP_Lord> millinao: i have not read it either, but i hear great things. 06:02 < sir_lewk> I hate Scott Card though 06:03 < sir_lewk> I hate child protagonists in general actually, and scott card is really a fan of them 06:03 < millinao> I hear scott card's a looney, but that doesn't make his book invalid 06:03 <@chronomex> ^ 06:03 < sir_lewk> imho his books are pretty trashy, uncreative sci-fi 06:04 < DSP_Lord> sir_lewk, i think you're trashy and uncreative. 06:04 < DSP_Lord> <_< 06:04 < sir_lewk> all his books revolve around stupid little nerd children who are smarter than all the adults around them 06:04 <@chronomex> HAHA, nice xkcd 06:07 -!- glk [glk@adsl-71-153-163-120.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net] has quit [http://grahamkendall.net/ my url] 06:09 < millinao> I wonder if it's against any rule if our teacher takes a picture of us individually on his camera 06:09 < millinao> we didn't take off our pants or anything, but it was still weird as hell 06:11 * _Auron_ shrugs 06:11 <@_Auron_> what was he doing it for? 06:11 <@chronomex> to fap to later 06:12 < millinao> he had us hold up our nametags to "help himself learn our names" 06:12 <@chronomex> ... 06:12 < millinao> yeah, wtf 06:12 < sir_lewk> dude 06:12 < asmand> have you read The Name of the Wind btw? 06:12 < sir_lewk> you're going to find your face shopped onto some firefighter on 4chan or something 06:13 < asmand> oh, you already stopped the book discussion 06:13 < sir_lewk> never heard of it, no 06:13 < millinao> haha, one can only hope 06:13 < asmand> on to more normal topics 06:13 < asmand> 4chan etc, I mean 06:13 < asmand> I must say that The Name of the Wind is one of the best fantasy books I've read 06:13 < sir_lewk> one would certainly hope that 4chan is not considered "normal" :P 06:14 < asmand> normal on the internet :P 06:14 < sir_lewk> I'm not terribly a fan of fantasy, I'm more of a sci-fi guy 06:14 < sir_lewk> though I did read all of the wheel of time 06:14 < sir_lewk> read crytonomicon recently, starting snowcrash 06:14 < sir_lewk> and have read most of Asimov :) 06:15 < millinao> i read all of i, robot and thought it was awesome, and then started foundation and found it boring and lame 06:16 < sir_lewk> try the robot novels (caves of steel, etc) 06:16 < sir_lewk> those are really good and non-boring 06:17 < sir_lewk> also the other robot shortstories are good too :) 06:20 < sir_lewk> hennyways, I must sleep now 06:24 -!- dankid [~dankid@CPE-72-131-125-188.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa 06:25 -!- Randomist [~Vampire@216.117.123.201] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:29 -!- dankidd [~dankid@CPE-72-131-125-188.wi.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 06:31 -!- Tyler2 [~nexon@residence-232-130.mschaffer.ualberta.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 380 seconds] 06:33 -!- millinao [~millinao@c-24-22-91-155.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Leaving] 06:41 < sir_lewk> screw this noise, I'm making me a sandwich 06:49 -!- Randomist [~Vampire@216.117.122.136] has joined #tcpa 06:49 < efneTI92> [Randomist] CAUTION: Exposure to this user may cause neurological damage. 06:52 < DSP_Lord> ok, random question. 06:53 < DSP_Lord> if i /ignore someone on IRC, that means they can't see what i say either, right? 06:59 <@chronomex> no 07:00 <@chronomex> it's one-way only 07:00 < sir_lewk> no, you just can't see what they see 07:00 -!- Goplat [~goplat@76-191-156-24.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has quit [Time left until the Apocalypse: 28yrs 19wks 3days 20hrs 13mins 45secs] 07:01 -!- pen [blankie@d75-153-82-81.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #tcpa 07:03 -!- blankie [~myname@d207-6-186-113.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error 54: Connection reset by peer] 07:03 -!- blankie [~myname@d207-6-186-113.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #tcpa 07:07 -!- pen [blankie@d75-153-82-81.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 360 seconds] 07:09 -!- dankidd [~dankid@CPE-72-131-125-188.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa 07:13 -!- dankid [~dankid@CPE-72-131-125-188.wi.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 07:30 -!- DSP_Lord [~darksidep@h254.147.28.71.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has quit [] 07:31 -!- LordMathi [~darksidep@h254.147.28.71.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has joined #tcpa 07:34 * Randomist stabs noisy dorms. 07:40 * chronomex stabs noisy fans 07:41 < Randomist> lol 07:41 <@chronomex> you have no idear 07:41 < Randomist> At least I don't have the tower with the jet plane fan anymore. :P 07:41 <@chronomex> we have jetplanes all over the apt 07:51 < sir_lewk> lol dorms 07:52 -!- incubus [incubus__@98.194.19.98] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:54 < tr1p1ea> HMHMHMHM 07:54 < tr1p1ea> what food to eat? 07:54 < Randomist> Yes, they suck sometimes. You can't even use the bathroom without someone coming in the stall further down, blaring music on a boom box. 07:54 < Randomist> Shitty ganster rap music, at that. 07:54 <@chronomex> Randomist: what school? 07:55 < Randomist> South Plains College. 07:55 <@chronomex> is that a Traditionally Gangsta University? 07:55 < Randomist> At least in this dorm. 07:55 <@chronomex> heh 07:55 <@chronomex> wait, community college with dorms 07:56 < tr1p1ea> gangsta university? 07:56 <@chronomex> that's a bit unusual 07:56 <@chronomex> all their notable alumni are country singers or athletes 07:56 <@chronomex> that's quite the record 07:56 < Randomist> This dorm is predominatly track/sports people, the next is predominatly creative arts and agriculture, and so on. 07:57 <@chronomex> ag? they have ag in texas? 07:57 <@chronomex> I thought it was all desert. 07:57 < tr1p1ea> instruments? 07:57 < BrandonW> Was I summoned for some reason earlier? 07:57 < BrandonW> I'm a little confused. 07:57 <@chronomex> BrandonW: ummmm, I don't know 07:57 < Randomist> We have lots of agricultural-type folks out here. 07:57 < tr1p1ea> BrandonW: get back to your cave 07:58 <@chronomex> hey, should I prepare the keys article for ticalc, BrandonW, or should I wait on the datestamp key? 07:58 < BrandonW> Wait on the date stamp key, which we'll have tonight at midnight. 07:58 < BrandonW> Hopefully. 07:58 < tr1p1ea> nice 07:58 <@chronomex> okay 07:58 <@chronomex> excellent 07:58 <@chronomex> wait 07:58 <@chronomex> it IS midnight 07:58 <@chronomex> er 07:58 <@chronomex> 1am ... 07:58 < BrandonW> 23 hours, then. 07:59 <@chronomex> k 07:59 < sir_lewk> protip: always party with the film majors at college 07:59 < sir_lewk> they have the best beer 07:59 <@chronomex> good to know 07:59 < BrandonW> It would be 9PM your time. 07:59 < BrandonW> So, 20 hours. 07:59 <@chronomex> okay 07:59 <@chronomex> I'll get it all prepared for postery 07:59 <@chronomex> how do you know it'll be then? 07:59 < BrandonW> Because I'm in cahoots with the guy doing the final processing and that's his ETA. 07:59 <@chronomex> aye, cool 08:00 <@chronomex> Randomist: hey your college has a radio station! 08:00 <@chronomex> "Broadcasting at an outstanding 90 milliwatts on 1610 kHz AM, Texan Radio is capable of broadcasting to most of the SPC Campus." 08:00 <@chronomex> fantastic! 08:00 <@chronomex> 90 milliwatts! 08:00 <@chronomex> I can do better with my FCC-disobeying wifi radio! 08:02 < BrandonW> If you don't mind, I'd kinda like to see the article before it goes up. 08:02 < BrandonW> To make sure all the facts are right. 08:02 < BrandonW> Or at least someone, not necessarily me. 08:02 <@chronomex> yeah, I'll let you see it 08:02 <@chronomex> I'll also pass it around the ticalc staff list, as usual 08:02 -!- LordMathi [~darksidep@h254.147.28.71.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has quit [] 08:03 < BrandonW> I didn't know you guys usually did that. 08:03 <@chronomex> usually, yeah 08:03 <@chronomex> usually someone just says "sure, go for it" :P 08:03 < tev> That'd be Magnus 08:03 < BrandonW> I don't understand why United TI is so pathetically slow this time of night. 08:04 < tev> :-) 08:04 <@chronomex> tev: usually, but sometimes it's someone else 08:05 < tr1p1ea> BrandonW: i get that too 08:05 < tr1p1ea> thought it was some AU thing 08:17 < BrandonW> This automagically-fix-the-OS-checksum-and-signature program is one complicated beast. 08:17 < BrandonW> It takes 10 minutes to run oncalc. 08:18 <@chronomex> that sounds like a lot of math 08:18 < BrandonW> 9 minutes for the signing, about another minute to deal with the Flash sector erasing/rewriting, calculating the OS checksum and the MD5 hash. 08:20 < BrandonW> I have it outputting progress and stuff, too...I'd like to make it a nice, stable, standalone program that you always distribute with oncalc OS patches. 08:20 < BrandonW> Almost no one will run it, but it's there if sending their patched OS to other calculators is important to them. 08:20 <@chronomex> as it is to some people 08:20 <@chronomex> we need to cksum all the OSes we know to be good 08:22 < DrDnar> BrandonW, MirageOS runs an IM 2 interrupt. When I tried chaining my own IM 2 interrupt to TI-OS's, it didn't work; it seems TI-OS sets im 1 in the interrupt. What does MirageOS do? 08:22 < BrandonW> The TI-OS doesn't do that. 08:22 -!- DSP_Lord [~darksidep@h254.147.28.71.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has joined #tcpa 08:22 < efneTI92> [DSP_Lord] I'm not a ninja, no idea what you're talking about. 08:22 < BrandonW> Give me a disassembly address where it does. 08:23 < tr1p1ea> some bcalls mess with interrupts 08:23 < BrandonW> But nothing used in the interrupt. 08:23 < tr1p1ea> but could ruin chaining 08:24 < BrandonW> How would it do that? 08:24 < tr1p1ea> set im 1? 08:24 < BrandonW> I just said the interrupt doesn't do that. 08:24 < BrandonW> How are you chaining this, DrDnar? 08:24 < DrDnar> Just a jp to the routine. 08:25 < tr1p1ea> bcall might set im 1 08:25 < BrandonW> No BCALLs used in the interrupt do that. 08:25 < BrandonW> That's what I said. 08:25 < tr1p1ea> im not talking about those 08:25 < tr1p1ea> perhaps one that he is using 08:25 <@chronomex> BrandonW: would you mind emailing me md5sums of all the *.??u's and *.??k's you have, preferably with descriptive names for each file? thanks 08:25 <@chronomex> I want to make an authoritative checksum list 08:26 < BrandonW> For every application? Absolutely not. 08:26 < BrandonW> Do it yourself! 08:26 <@chronomex> how about for all the OS versions? 08:26 < BrandonW> Decrypt the signature at the end of every file with the public key. 08:26 < BrandonW> Which is 17 and n for that key. 08:26 <@chronomex> no, just run the *.??u file through 'md5sum' 08:26 < BrandonW> The entire file itself? 08:26 <@chronomex> yeah 08:27 < BrandonW> I'm not sure I want to base it on that. 08:27 < DrDnar> Do it yourself? 08:27 <@chronomex> so it's easy for people to verify they're sending something legit to their calculator 08:27 <@chronomex> DrDnar: I dont have every ROM image ever 08:27 < BrandonW> TI could've posted the same exact code, data, and signature, but with a different date stamp inside the 8x* format. The MD5 hash would be different but it's the same file. I don't like it. 08:27 <@chronomex> okay 08:27 <@chronomex> do you have a better idea? 08:28 < BrandonW> Yes, use the actual signature sent along with the data. That's guaranteed to be the same for official TI files. 08:28 <@chronomex> I want people to be able to trust the OS updates to be correct 08:28 <@chronomex> okay 08:28 < BrandonW> We could write a small utility to do this, identical to md5sum in design. 08:28 <@chronomex> but I need a reliable source, is all 08:28 <@chronomex> yes 08:28 <@chronomex> that we cound 08:28 <@chronomex> and I may 08:29 < BrandonW> I agree it's a good idea to have a central listing of hashes. 08:29 < BrandonW> So people know the files are genuine. 08:29 <@chronomex> yeah 08:29 < BrandonW> All you'd need for the utility is the modulus for each key, which is hardly a secret. 08:30 < BrandonW> So you could embed them into the application. 08:30 < BrandonW> A really simple C/C++ program, portable to whatever people want to port it to. 08:30 <@chronomex> yeah, that's about what I had in mind 08:31 <@chronomex> maybe perl because I'm lazy 08:31 < BrandonW> I don't have a whole lot of experience writing good cross-platform code, but if you want me to do it, I'm willing. 08:31 <@chronomex> it's not too difficult 08:31 <@chronomex> whoever gets to it first, I suppose 08:31 < BrandonW> Whatever it's written in will need some sort of big integer library. 08:31 <@chronomex> I've only got access to one non-68k ROM :P 08:32 < BrandonW> I can zip up every 8XU I have, but I don't have all that many 68k ones. 08:32 < BrandonW> 73U/8XU* 08:32 <@chronomex> I have most of the 68k ones 08:33 < BrandonW> For z80 calculators, the signature is embedded within the OS once it's fully received, so it would be in ROM files as well. Would it be in 68k ROM files? 08:33 <@chronomex> I honestly don't know 08:33 <@chronomex> I have access to a bunch of z80 dumps, just not that many updates 08:33 < BrandonW> This utility should probably have the ability to just dump out whatever signature is in a file, too. 08:33 < BrandonW> For people who have the OS upgrade and want to give you the signature. 08:33 * chronomex nods 08:34 < BrandonW> This is piss easy to write for the 68k models...the Intel Hex for the z80 ones complicates things a little. 08:34 < BrandonW> But not much. 08:34 * chronomex nods quietly 08:35 < BrandonW> I'm really envious of the 68k file formats. 08:35 <@chronomex> why, exactly? 08:35 <@chronomex> because they're sane? 08:35 < BrandonW> I'd be tempted to throw something together right now but I despise Intel Hex and I don't want to dig it out of all those files manually. 08:35 <@chronomex> mhm 08:35 <@chronomex> I probably won't get to it until at least saturday 08:35 < BrandonW> Plus it's 4:30AM on a workday and I have stuff to do. 08:35 <@chronomex> <-- lazy 08:36 <@chronomex> ^^^ 08:36 < BrandonW> Yes, because they're sane. 08:37 < BrandonW> I'm sure they would've done the same thing for the z80s if they could have. 08:37 < BrandonW> Intel Hex is a nice way of dealing with the paging. 08:37 < BrandonW> It's just a bitch for us to mess with. 08:38 <@chronomex> aye 08:38 <@chronomex> night 08:38 < BrandonW> Night. 08:41 -!- dankid [~dankid@CPE-72-131-125-188.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa 08:42 < Randomist> Day. 08:42 < Randomist> Morning, to be accurate. 08:42 < DrDnar> Morning? 08:42 < tr1p1ea> Friday evening here 08:42 < Randomist> At least if it's 0000 or later where you are. 08:43 < Randomist> The night endeth almost four hours ago for me. 08:45 -!- dankidd [~dankid@CPE-72-131-125-188.wi.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 08:45 < tr1p1ea> its 1562 here in metric time 08:46 < Randomist> Today is kiloday 733.657, and the time is currently 13.561 kiloseconds (091109:0346.01 CST). 08:52 * Randomist goes off write himself to sleep. 08:55 -!- Randomist [~Vampire@216.117.122.136] has quit [Quit: leaving] 08:57 <@_Auron_> http://www.thepatrioticgentleman.com/Agent-Orange/images/Dioxin-victim-by-Daniel-Shea.jpg 09:12 -!- Netsplit hub.efnet.nl <-> irc.efnet.nl quits: nicolas 09:12 -!- nicolas_ [nicolas@208.96.109.232] has joined #tcpa 09:23 -!- leofox [leofox@leofox.student.utwente.nl] has joined #tcpa 09:23 < efneTI92> [leofox] All we do in hell is play DDR! 09:24 < tr1p1ea> http://i34.tinypic.com/3494do5.jpg 09:26 <@_Auron_> HAHAHAHAHAHAH 09:26 < leofox> heh 09:37 < DSP_Lord> ok, now THAT'S a good use of that stupid ass quote. 09:38 < _Digital> hot damn that is funny 10:04 -!- dankidd [~dankid@CPE-72-131-125-188.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa 10:08 -!- dankid [~dankid@CPE-72-131-125-188.wi.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:48 -!- amohield [~amohield@193.188.117.66] has joined #tcpa 10:48 < amohield> anyone home? 10:49 < _Digital> hi 10:49 < amohield> hey, do you have any idea if it's possible to cram a computer into the case of a ti-84 10:49 < amohield> like a faster one 10:49 < amohield> and give it an color screen 10:50 < _Digital> not economically advisable, if it were possible 10:54 -!- tr1p1ea [~tr1p1ea@121-79-27-214-dsl.ispone.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 840 seconds] 10:57 < amohield> oh, thanks anyway 11:02 -!- Tari [~Tari@emcnair-79-224.resnet.mtu.edu] has joined #tcpa 11:02 < efneTI92> [Tari] Remember, remember the 5th of November 11:02 -!- dankid [~dankid@CPE-72-131-125-188.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa 11:04 -!- dankidd [~dankid@CPE-72-131-125-188.wi.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:16 < DrDnar> Oh, sure, it's easy. Find a quark star, use the gravity to compress your computer into the size of pinhead, and put it in your calculator. The end. 11:28 < DrDnar> Oh, be sure to include a power supple. An inverter and a couple hundred car batteries ought to do it. Not sure what you'll about the weight though. 11:28 < DrDnar> supply* 11:53 <@E-J> <3 helsinki, 2 different streets with almost same name in city, one is oskelantie and other one koskelantie 12:12 -!- tr1p1ea [~tr1p1ea@121-79-27-214-dsl.ispone.net.au] has joined #tcpa 12:30 -!- i_c-Y [~Icy@cpe-69-204-242-163.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa 12:30 < efneTI92> [i_c-Y] It's like I'm the last sane person on Earth. 12:31 < tr1p1ea> this engine was coded wonderfly 12:31 < tr1p1ea> then near-plane clipping turned it into a mess :S 12:33 < tr1p1ea> not to mention that it nocks 10fps off :\ 12:42 <@E-J> generic american has lost his passport 12:42 <@E-J> name is connor, john wayne 12:43 <@E-J> lives in california and have lost his passport one time before 12:44 <@E-J> at least once before* 12:55 -!- i_c-Y [~Icy@cpe-69-204-242-163.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 13:33 < jr19> john connor 13:34 < jr19> terminator 13:45 <@E-J> that guy was born 1949, so little older than terminator's connor 13:48 < jr19> yes definitely 13:57 -!- doc_who [Mibbit@rvmtz0110605684dt.montgomerycollege.edu] has joined #tcpa 13:57 < doc_who> hello 13:57 < doc_who> anyone awake? 13:57 < Tari> ky 13:57 < Tari> er, no 13:58 < doc_who> ic ic 13:58 < doc_who> i have a ti89 question 14:02 < tr1p1ea> hallo 14:03 < doc_who> hello 14:05 -!- Spengo [~Spengo@64.251.245.102] has joined #tcpa 14:08 < tr1p1ea> and your question is? 14:11 <@E-J> tr1p1ea: don't rush him, he may panic and quit 14:11 < doc_who> lets say i have a matrix a=[1,-2,4;4,-3,1;-2,7,h] where h is an unknown and when i have the calc do rref(a) i want it to return the matrix [1,0,-2;0,1,-3;0,0,h+17] as the answer 14:46 < doc_who> noone? 14:46 < doc_who> i got maths class soon 14:46 < doc_who> ill just ask the teacher then 14:46 -!- doc_who [Mibbit@rvmtz0110605684dt.montgomerycollege.edu] has quit [http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 15:40 -!- Barrett [~Barrett@75-165-234-86.slkc.qwest.net] has joined #tcpa 15:43 -!- krisk [~krisk@j239072.upc-j.chello.nl] has joined #tcpa 15:43 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v krisk] by efneTI81 15:43 <+krisk> so yeah 15:46 < jr19> what 15:48 <+krisk> still waiting on RAMz 15:48 <+krisk> :/ 15:48 < jr19> that sucks 15:50 -!- boscop [~boscop@f055248213.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #tcpa 15:51 < jr19> isnt there a shop you can just buy it from 15:58 <+krisk> shops here sucks are often quite a tad more expensive even with delivery costs or dont carry decent brands 15:58 <+krisk> ive only seen one that even sells ddr3 15:59 < BrandonW> Diane Lane seems so artificial to me. 16:00 < BrandonW> It looks like there's a demon behind her smile that wants to jump out and rip your head off. 16:00 < BrandonW> I used to like her. 16:00 < BrandonW> Maybe it's because she's older, I don't know. 16:01 <+krisk> what does she play in? 16:03 < BrandonW> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000178/ 16:04 <+krisk> she was boring in untraceable 16:04 < BrandonW> That whole movie was boring. 16:04 < BrandonW> And pointless. 16:04 <+krisk> dont think ive seen any of the other ones, dont seem very decent 16:04 < BrandonW> It was a somewhat interesting premise that they completely butchered. 16:05 <+krisk> idk i only remember there was a kitten in it 16:09 < jr19> yeah that movie was dumb...untraceable 16:10 -!- tkoi [~Tyler@00-22-19-f5-23-6e.resnet.txstate.edu] has joined #tcpa 16:10 < tkoi> i need some help with gb68k 16:14 < amohield> about the super fast ti-83, isn't that basically what an iphone is 16:14 < amohield> assuming you can get small enough hardware 16:14 < amohield> scratch that, make it an ipod touch 16:14 < amohield> but minus the touch 16:15 <+krisk> http://www.bewild.com/ordot2.html haha 16:22 < BrandonW> Who said anything about a "super fast ti-83"? 16:22 <+krisk> >super fast 16:22 <+krisk> >iphone 16:22 <+krisk> wat 16:22 < BrandonW> You'll find very little 68k help here. 16:23 < tkoi> i only need a little help 16:23 <+krisk> hmm I dont think Ive ever seen anyone get helped in any of the calc chans 16:23 <+krisk> with 68k 16:23 < tkoi> has anyone used gb68k? 16:23 < BrandonW> Okay, you'll find absolutely no 68k help here. 16:23 < BrandonW> No. 16:23 < tkoi> well fuck 16:23 -!- smealum [~smealum@smea.servebeer.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 16:24 < tkoi> how much ram total does a ti89t have? 16:24 <+krisk> is the issue absolutely specific to gb68k? 16:24 < tkoi> i think so 16:24 < tkoi> i have 180k free but every time i try to run pokemon yellow i get "error: out of memory" 16:24 < BrandonW> Reset an 89Ti and find out. 16:25 < BrandonW> People here know basically nothing about 68ks. 16:26 < tkoi> are there any ircs where they do? 16:27 < BrandonW> I don't know of any channels that can help. 16:27 -!- incubus [incubus__@98.194.19.98] has joined #tcpa 16:28 < tkoi> this sucks. i know people have gotten pokemon to run before 16:31 -!- dankidd [~dankid@CPE-72-131-125-188.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa 16:35 < BrandonW> To repeat, kill your BOINC clients, kids, we're done. 16:36 <@Andy_J> no, don't kill them 16:36 < incubus> done 16:36 <@Andy_J> repurpose them to some other project 16:37 <@Andy_J> I would recommend Rosetta@home or climateprediction.net 16:37 -!- dankid [~dankid@CPE-72-131-125-188.wi.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 16:39 < incubus> I did a ton for rosetta 16:40 < incubus> they owe me 16:40 <+krisk> or protein folding 16:40 <+krisk> go find the cure for cancer or something 16:40 <@Andy_J> folding@home doesn't use boince =/ 16:41 <@Andy_J> *boinc 16:41 <@Andy_J> I keep doing that. 16:41 <+krisk> hmm 16:41 <+krisk> but the system resources can be redirected to non-boinc projects 17:09 -!- Barrett [~Barrett@75-165-234-86.slkc.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:12 < sir_lewk> man I hate telephones 17:13 < sir_lewk> I just got a call from a 401 area code number (rhode island) and all it was was mechanical staticy sounds 17:14 < incubus> sir_lewk, I told you, just start talking, no dialogue or I can't fap 17:14 < sir_lewk> like, what is up with that crap? who would pay a phonebill just to do that? 17:15 < sir_lewk> >_> 17:15 <+krisk> haha incubus 17:15 <+krisk> sir_lewk just dont hang up and let the bill soar highhhhhhhhh 17:16 < jr19> if you have free incoming calls anyway 17:23 -!- V200 [~calcg@v200.calcg.org] has joined #tcpa 17:23 -!- Topic for #tcpa: Welcome to #TCPA | Design a banner for picturesofducks.org. Win 5 dollars! | Thanks for factoring! | http://tinyurl.com/MVinWSJ 17:23 -!- Topic set by efneTI86 [aardrop@nightshade.epfarms.org] [Wed Sep 9 21:47:45 2009] 17:23 [Users #tcpa] 17:23 [@_Auron_ ] [@etaonrish] [ amohield] [ efneTI92] [ mokomull] [ Tari ] 17:23 [@Andy_J ] [@Nikky ] [ asmand ] [ filler ] [ Mwyann ] [ TD-Linux] 17:23 [@chronomex] [@Remius ] [ blankie ] [ Genolo ] [ nicolas_] [ tev ] 17:23 [@E-J ] [@SnowCrash] [ boscop ] [ Grue` ] [ patori ] [ tkoi ] 17:23 [@efneTI80 ] [+\\BAF\IRC] [ BrandonW] [ GW-Basic] [ Perryman] [ tr1p1ea ] 17:23 [@efneTI81 ] [+krisk ] [ bsparks ] [ incubus ] [ ryantmer] [ Tribal ] 17:23 [@efneTI85 ] [+Netham45 ] [ dankidd ] [ leofox ] [ seidior ] [ V200 ] 17:23 [@efneTI86 ] [ _Digital ] [ DrDnar ] [ Merth ] [ sir_lewk] [ |Omega| ] 17:23 [@efneTI89 ] [ aksnowman] [ DSP_Lord] [ Milyardo] [ Spengo ] 17:23 -!- Irssi: #tcpa: Total of 53 nicks [13 ops, 0 halfops, 3 voices, 37 normal] 17:23 -!- Channel #tcpa created Fri Mar 2 07:59:29 2001 17:23 -!- Irssi: Join to #tcpa was synced in 9 secs 17:23 < sir_lewk> 17:24 -!- Merth [~merthsoft@nykida.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:24 -!- Merth [~merthsoft@nykida.net] has joined #tcpa 17:24 -!- jr19 [~nag@inserthere.net] has joined #tcpa 17:24 <+krisk> http://zip.4chan.org/tv/src/1252677138987.png 17:25 < sir_lewk> hmm, that movie was alright 17:26 < sir_lewk> thought that star trek was clearly the better sci-fi movie this year though 17:26 < sir_lewk> of course, I haven't seen Moon yet 17:27 <+krisk> did you get District 9? 17:27 < sir_lewk> eh, I guess so 17:28 < sir_lewk> I was looking for a deeper movie, it wasn't bad but it did seem a bit "summer action-movie"y to me 17:28 <+krisk> nonsense 17:28 -!- dankid [~dankid@CPE-72-131-125-188.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa 17:28 <+krisk> there is a lot of subtle irony 17:29 <+krisk> the ending having some awesome is just a bonus 17:29 < sir_lewk> it was basically The Fly combined with some good documentary bits, combined with Iron Man or some other rubish 17:29 <+krisk> noooooooooooo 17:29 < sir_lewk> The Fly part, and the documentary parts were good 17:29 -!- tkoi [~Tyler@00-22-19-f5-23-6e.resnet.txstate.edu] has left #tcpa [] 17:29 <+krisk> they were 17:29 <+krisk> the iron man part was awesome 17:30 < sir_lewk> it was indeed, but I don't think it fit with the rest of it 17:30 < sir_lewk> out of pace imho 17:31 < sir_lewk> star trek was mainly pure gold though, and I'm no trekkie 17:31 -!- i_c-Y [~Icy@cpe-69-204-242-163.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa 17:31 < efneTI92> [i_c-Y] It's like I'm the last sane person on Earth. 17:33 -!- dankidd [~dankid@CPE-72-131-125-188.wi.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 17:33 <+krisk> ok so an amazingly creative sci-fi about comparing an alien landing to apartheid riddled with minute and subtle details that either make it stand out in ingenuity and great scripting done with unknown actors relatively low budget and filmed in real south african suburbs where most of the acting was improvised around keywords.. 17:34 <+krisk> and inspired by a short film with real people commenting on the situation there presented as if they were speaking about aliens 17:34 <+krisk> is trumped by yet another star trek movie #6 or something 17:34 <+krisk> ? 17:35 < sir_lewk> mmhm >_> 17:36 < sir_lewk> when you put it that way, I sound so unreasonable :) 17:38 < jr19> "another star trek movie" 17:38 < jr19> have you seen the star trek movie krisk 17:39 < sir_lewk> true, to compare it with any of the others is doing it a great injustice 17:42 -!- dankidd [~dankid@CPE-72-131-125-188.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa 17:46 -!- dankid [~dankid@CPE-72-131-125-188.wi.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 17:47 <+krisk> conceptually its still just star trek #x 17:47 <+krisk> doesnt exactly take a lot of effort to think up that one 17:49 < jr19> i'm not sure i've ever watched an entire star trek episode/movie in its entirety 17:55 -!- amohield2 [~amohield@193.188.117.66] has joined #tcpa 17:57 -!- dankid [~dankid@CPE-72-131-125-188.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa 17:59 -!- dankidd [~dankid@CPE-72-131-125-188.wi.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:03 -!- amohield [~amohield@193.188.117.66] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 18:06 -!- dankidd [~dankid@CPE-72-131-125-188.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa 18:09 -!- dankid [~dankid@CPE-72-131-125-188.wi.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 18:13 <+krisk> yay my ram has been send to me 18:13 <+krisk> should arrive tomorrow 18:14 -!- amohield2 [~amohield@193.188.117.66] has left #tcpa [Leaving] 18:15 <+krisk> you know i like ati's naming scheme better than geforce´s now 18:27 -!- Rivereye [~rivereye@198.110.88.149] has joined #tcpa 18:36 <+krisk> hey is there like a fruity loops for windows mobile= 18:36 <+krisk> ? or something similar 18:40 <@chronomex> get a small bucket, tape it to your phone, and pour cereal in it 18:40 <@chronomex> done 18:40 <+krisk> wat 18:40 <+krisk> oh right i see what you did there 18:40 < sir_lewk> lol 18:44 -!- incubus [incubus__@98.194.19.98] has quit [] 18:45 <+krisk> surely theres a simple drum loop editor & wav mixer out there somewhere for WM 18:46 <+krisk> and synth 18:53 -!- Rivereye [~rivereye@198.110.88.149] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 18:53 < Spengo> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaidaE1ZxrI lol 18:58 -!- dankid [~dankid@CPE-72-131-125-188.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa 19:01 <+krisk> its the respectfull and patriotic thing to do 19:02 <+krisk> haha shame on you its 9/11 on that porn site 19:04 -!- dankidd [~dankid@CPE-72-131-125-188.wi.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 19:05 < jr19> wat 19:07 -!- Barrett [~Barrett@75-165-246-45.slkc.qwest.net] has joined #tcpa 19:17 -!- Tyler2 [~nexon@residence-232-130.mschaffer.ualberta.ca] has joined #tcpa 19:33 < jr19> anybody doing anything fun tonight/this weekend?!?!?! 19:34 <+krisk> UNCE UNCE UNCE UNCE UNCE UNCE UNCE UNCE UNCE UNCE UNCE UNCE UNCE UNCE UNCE UNCE UNCE UNCE UNCE UNCE UNCE UNCE UNCE UNCE UNCE UNCE UNCE UNCE UNCE UNCE UNCE UNCE UNCE UNCE UNCE UNCE UNCE UNCE UNCE UNCE UNCE UNCE 19:34 <+krisk> tomorrow 19:34 < jr19> oh yeah you have Shut Up and Dance? 19:34 < jr19> isn't that what it's called 19:34 <+krisk> juh 19:35 < Milyardo> Indeed 19:35 <+krisk> found pic form the last one that was a few weeks ago 19:35 <+krisk> pics 19:35 < jr19> were those the same as the pics you were showing me 19:35 <+krisk> no 19:35 <+krisk> more/better girls 19:35 <+krisk> wierd coloured moving contructions 19:36 <+krisk> fire 19:36 < jr19> hopefully there are good girls there this time 19:36 <+krisk> http://shut-up-and-dance.nl/beachfreak/beachfreak/album/index.html 19:37 < jr19> could probably look without it being blocked, but i dont want people seeing me looking at pictures of a party while i'm at work heh 19:38 <+krisk> save it for later:? 19:40 < jr19> yeah maybe 19:40 < jr19> i do look at links that were posted on here when i get home sometimes 19:43 < jr19> right now i'm reading some of the posts in "best of" craigslist 19:43 < jr19> due to boredom 19:46 <+krisk> FUCK YEAH CASTIEL 19:47 <+krisk> this series just keeps pulling awesome out of nowhere 19:48 < jr19> what is this i don't even 20:02 < jr19> hmm i hate these "events" that people create on facebook in order to get peoples phone numbers when their phone breaks 20:02 <+krisk> huh? 20:02 <+krisk> how does that work? 20:03 < jr19> people create an event called "i need numbers!" and they write in the description a stupid story about how they chucked their phone in a river while drunk one night or something 20:03 < jr19> and then people post their numbers on "wall" of the event 20:04 <+krisk> ok? 20:04 <+krisk> wouldnt people who need someone to have their number be able to give it to them in another, possibly irl, way 20:05 < jr19> apparently not 20:05 < jr19> which is annoying 20:05 < jr19> maybe they think they need to seem popular by creating event and having a bunch of people post their numbers specifically for them 20:12 -!- dankidd [~dankid@CPE-72-131-125-188.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa 20:13 <+krisk> http://94.100.116.105/704450001-704500000/704460101-704460200/704460126_5__tdH.jpeg 20:13 <+krisk> haha 20:19 -!- Barrett_ [~Barrett@75-165-227-28.slkc.qwest.net] has joined #tcpa 20:19 -!- dankid [~dankid@CPE-72-131-125-188.wi.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 20:19 < jr19> they have to be freed at some point 20:20 <+krisk> i just like the idea of it evolving 20:20 <+krisk> its a funny joke! 20:20 <+krisk> FUNNY! 20:20 <+krisk> LAUGH! 20:21 < i_c-Y> no. 20:21 < jr19> evolution isn't real 20:21 -!- LordMathi [~darksidep@h131.105.88.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has joined #tcpa 20:21 < efneTI92> [LordMathi] I'm not a ninja, no idea what you're talking about. 20:22 -!- Barrett [~Barrett@75-165-246-45.slkc.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:22 < _Digital> laptop, up over 39 days 20:22 < _Digital> server at 34d14h46m 20:22 < _Digital> !up 20:22 <@efneTI86> 15:44:55 up 5 days, 2:49, 1 user, load average: 0.71, 0.84, 0.78 20:22 <@SnowCrash> 13:22:24 up 76 days, 10:11, 1 user, load average: 0.06, 0.01, 0.00 20:22 <@efneTI89> 13:22:24 up 12 days, 23 min, 0 users, load average: 0.87, 0.35, 0.26 20:22 <@efneTI80> 16:12:53 up 103 days, 18:38, 1 user, load average: 0.19, 0.37, 0.50 20:22 <@efneTI85> 16:22:51 up 12 days, 22:47, 10 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 20:22 <@efneTI81> 16:22:24 up 3 days, 5:10, 0 users, load average: 0.88, 0.61, 0.55 20:22 < efneTI92> 16:22:24 up 121 days, 56 min, 8 users, load average: 0.13, 0.07, 0.06 20:22 <+krisk> wat 20:22 < _Digital> me == bored 20:22 < jr19> why do you let your laptop run for 39 days 20:22 < jr19> that would scare me 20:23 < _Digital> jr19, I use it as a desktop now and days 20:23 <+krisk> ok, i got a silly forward from someone, how do i quickly get all the addresses out of the mail (previous forwards as well) and reply to them all? 20:23 -!- DSP_Lord [~darksidep@h254.147.28.71.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 615 seconds] 20:24 < jr19> idk 20:25 -!- LordMathi is now known as DSP_Lord 20:28 -!- dankid [~dankid@CPE-72-131-125-188.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa 20:34 -!- dankidd [~dankid@CPE-72-131-125-188.wi.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:55 <@Andy_J> psh 20:55 <@Andy_J> my iphone is up to over 25 days of uptime 20:55 <@Andy_J> though I'm going to put 3.1 on it later 20:56 < i_c-Y> loliphone 20:59 <+krisk> is that a good thing? 21:00 -!- Kurt_ [~BEEPBEEPI@adsl-66-143-180-233.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has joined #tcpa 21:00 < jr19> does your iphone record video 21:00 < jr19> mmmmm daily afternoon orange juice 21:01 < i_c-Y> the new ipod nano has a video camera >.> 21:03 < jr19> good for voyeuristic individuals i suppose... 21:07 <@chronomex> heheh 21:12 -!- dankidd [~dankid@CPE-72-131-125-188.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa 21:19 -!- dankid [~dankid@CPE-72-131-125-188.wi.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: no data for 495 seconds] 21:22 -!- GW_Basic [~GW_Basic@ip70-176-241-203.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #tcpa 21:23 -!- GW-Basic [~GW_Basic@ip70-176-241-203.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 21:24 -!- GW_Basic is now known as GW-Basic 21:39 -!- TheStorm [~TheStorm@88.252.226.166.in-addr.arpa] has joined #tcpa 21:39 < efneTI92> [TheStorm] Yes rivereye, it is time to go fishing. 21:41 -!- dankid [~dankid@CPE-72-131-125-188.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa 21:44 -!- dankidd [~dankid@CPE-72-131-125-188.wi.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:50 -!- dankidd [~dankid@CPE-72-131-125-188.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa 21:55 -!- dankid [~dankid@CPE-72-131-125-188.wi.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 22:03 -!- glk [glk@adsl-71-153-171-97.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net] has joined #tcpa 22:03 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v glk] by efneTI85 22:04 -!- _Digital [~Digital@pool-173-58-129-172.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 22:05 -!- Tribal [~Tribal@oh-76-5-240-130.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has left #tcpa [brb] 22:09 -!- Tribal [~Tribal@oh-76-5-240-130.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #tcpa 22:14 <+krisk> hmm what could i put muesli in to make it more easily edible, like muesli bars, but not muesli bars because they get expensive 22:14 <+krisk> im thinking honey but its 75% sugar 22:17 <+krisk> eh i guess i can just omnomnom some muesli and take sips of milk 22:17 < tr1p1ea> O_o 22:17 -!- doc_who [~doc@c-98-231-147-176.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 22:17 <+krisk> heyo 22:17 < doc_who> hi 22:17 < tr1p1ea> hay :) 22:17 <+krisk> hi 22:17 < doc_who> im back again 22:17 <+krisk> yo 22:18 < tr1p1ea> yo-yo 22:19 -!- Jonimus [~TheStorm@88.252.226.166.in-addr.arpa] has joined #tcpa 22:19 < efneTI92> [Jonimus] Yes rivereye, it is time to go fishing. 22:21 -!- Rivereye [~rivereye@99-39-106-84.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #tcpa 22:22 -!- _Auron|G1 [~Auron-G1@m3d0536d0.tmodns.net] has joined #tcpa 22:24 -!- DSP_Lord [~darksidep@h131.105.88.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 22:24 -!- TheStorm [~TheStorm@88.252.226.166.in-addr.arpa] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 22:25 -!- dankid [~dankid@CPE-72-131-125-188.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa 22:26 -!- DSP_Lord [~darksidep@h234.214.31.71.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has joined #tcpa 22:28 -!- dankidd [~dankid@CPE-72-131-125-188.wi.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 22:33 -!- dankid [~dankid@CPE-72-131-125-188.wi.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 22:33 -!- dankid [~dankid@CPE-72-131-125-188.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa 22:38 -!- krisk [~krisk@j239072.upc-j.chello.nl] has quit [User excited] 22:58 -!- Rain724 [47a31818@pool-71-163-24-24.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #tcpa 22:59 < Rain724> Hey guys! I have a quick question: Is there a way to calculate unit conversions (meters to inches, for example) on the ti-nspire CAS? 23:00 < i_c-Y> theres a units menu on the ti 89 / 89 ti - i dont know about the nspire cas but id venture theres something similar 23:01 < i_c-Y> youd have to rtfm :) 23:01 < Rain724> Yea. It's been driving my crazy for about 3 days. I know its easy math, but I would like to figure out how to do it. 23:01 < i_c-Y> have you read the manual? 23:02 < Rain724> My school gave us the calculators w/o the manuals... I'll go take a look on the TI website. 23:02 < i_c-Y> schools give out calculators now? 23:03 < Rain724> Well, mine did. (AP Calc. students all got em') 23:03 < i_c-Y> i think the -> used to be used on the 89 to convert units but i havent had one in a long time 23:04 < Rain724> Yea. I'm going to just download the manual. 23:05 < Rain724> :P 23:05 < Rain724> Thanks. 23:06 -!- Rain724 [47a31818@pool-71-163-24-24.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: http://chat.efnet.org ] 23:18 -!- DSP_Lord [~darksidep@h234.214.31.71.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 23:18 -!- Kurt_ [~BEEPBEEPI@adsl-66-143-180-233.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.2/20090729225027]] 23:19 -!- _Digital [~Digital@pool-173-58-129-172.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has joined #tcpa 23:20 -!- boscop [~boscop@f055248213.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 380 seconds] 23:20 -!- Michael_V [michael@ip68-109-186-79.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #tcpa 23:21 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Michael_V] by efneTI89 23:21 -!- DSP_Lord [~darksidep@h175.11.96.216.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has joined #tcpa 23:31 -!- incubus [incubus__@98.194.19.98] has joined #tcpa 23:35 -!- millinao [~millinao@c-24-22-91-155.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 23:38 * _Digital begins copying ~1325GB between drives 23:39 < i_c-Y> ... 23:40 <@_Auron_> :D 23:41 < sir_lewk> goodness why? 23:41 < _Digital> I'm not getting meaningful results from benchmarking filesystems. Want to test existing structure. It should take between 3 and four hours to copy the files before I can test 23:43 <+Michael_V> that's a lot of porn 23:43 <+Michael_V> and pirated movies 23:44 < millinao> but mostly porn 23:44 <+Michael_V> speaking of embarrassing things, actually... 23:44 <+Michael_V> I showed one friend the wall street journal in my class 23:44 <+Michael_V> he told someone else 23:44 <+Michael_V> and instantly 20 people know me as a calculator programming nerd now 23:45 < sir_lewk> I don't use filesystems, I just dd files to my HD 23:45 <+Michael_V> so now I'm the law student who is a "calculator enthusiast" 23:45 < sir_lewk> awesome :) 23:45 <+Michael_V> so much for trying to appear at least remotely normal :P 23:45 <+Michael_V> meanwhile I'm optimizing emu8x 23:45 <+Michael_V> I think I can get at least a 15% speed increase 23:45 <@_Auron_> people in my classes almost never talk to each other 23:46 <@_Auron_> 'cept my Calculus class, they're a cool bunch 23:46 <+Michael_V> I've discovered that law school is like high school 23:46 <+Michael_V> we have lockers 23:46 < millinao> i wish it was like that in high school, auron :( 23:46 <+Michael_V> and people spread rumors 23:46 <+Michael_V> it's really sad actually 23:46 <+Michael_V> some schools have law school proms even 23:47 < _Digital> http://atlas.selfip.net/directory_listing 23:47 < sir_lewk> lockers are lame 23:47 < _Digital> that is what I I'm copying 23:47 < millinao> wait, wtf michael_v 23:47 <+Michael_V> sir_lewk: I packed mine full of snacks! 23:47 < sir_lewk> niice! 23:47 < millinao> there can not seriously be proms for adults like that 23:47 <+Michael_V> http://www.google.com/search?q=law+school+prom&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a 23:49 < sir_lewk> that's a little disurbing honestly 23:49 <+Michael_V> indeed 23:49 <+Michael_V> the good news is I haven't heard about any at my school 23:53 <+Michael_V> so Emu8x used to take 32 seconds to graph Y=X on a 82 ROM 19.0 23:53 <+Michael_V> from pressing GRAPH to completion 23:53 <+Michael_V> it takes 30 now 23:53 <+Michael_V> hopefully it gets more impressive later :) 23:56 < doc_who> what's in the WSJ? 23:57 <+Netham45> doc_who, an article on how the nspire sucks. They used a quote from Michael_V in it. 23:58 < doc_who> oh i c 23:59 < doc_who> the 89 can "sing, dance, and do the dishes for me" --- Log closed Sat Sep 12 00:00:41 2009