--- Log opened Sat Sep 05 00:00:05 2009
--- Day changed Sat Sep 05 2009
00:00 < Zombine> only RAM module that has any voltage markings on it says 1.8-1.9
00:00 < Zombine> the other 3 are blank.
00:00 <+jujaga> does anyone remember me? >_>
00:00 < Tari> do you know what frequencies they're rated at?
00:00 <@Andy_J> yes.
00:00 < Zombine> yea, jujaga.
00:00 < Zombine> Tari, 800.
00:00 < i_c-Y> well, put a few sticks in, turn it up a bit and go from there.
00:01 <+jujaga> woohoo :D
00:01 < Tari> 1.9 is a good value to try, then
00:01 < i_c-Y> you're going to probably have to do a voltage+ and frequency- 
00:01 < i_c-Y> you try running all at 667 without voltage changes?
00:01 < Zombine> no.
00:02 < _Digital> with timings at 5-5-5-15
00:02 < _Digital> is there anyway you can provide a photo of one of the RAM sticks>
00:02 <+sir_lewk> ALIENS
00:02 <+sir_lewk> on AMC
00:02 <+sir_lewk> hellz yeah
00:03 < _Digital> SIR_LEWKs on TCPA
00:03 <+jujaga> hai sir_lewk :D
00:03 < Zombine> _Digital, not with any sort of clarity at all, no. All I have is my phone cam, and it's not very good.
00:04 < _Digital> don't worry about it. i_c-Y is good so keep listening to him
00:04 <+jujaga> it's good to see you guys again... bye bye for now :)
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00:04 < i_c-Y> anyhow, Zombine , its a known issue, you're on your own pretty much for this - very few people have the board working with 4 slots configured to begin with i think, and most of them have higher voltages or lower frequencies than the RAM's rating, so it might just not work
00:04 < Zombine> k.
00:04  * _Digital raises his hand for the few
00:04 < i_c-Y> even 4x1 kits 
00:04 < i_c-Y> _Digital: i thought you had some gigabyte board
00:04 < Zombine> 2.2v failed, trying to lower the freq now.
00:04 < _Digital> I do
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00:06 < _Digital> but I also already had manual settings defined in the BIOS iirc. Else I left it on auto and then set it to manual after first POST
00:06 < Tari> efnet is laggy and fail tonight
00:06 < Zombine> k, 633MHz booted.
00:06 < Tari> ranging from 1.5 seconds to 30
00:06 < Zombine> Tari, I've noticed that.
00:06 < i_c-Y> cool. you still may need to increase the voltage at that frequency to keep it stable though Zombine 
00:06 < _Digital> Zombine: 633MHz doesn't exist, you mean 677?
00:06 < _Digital> 667*
00:07 <@Andy_J> 633 can exist.
00:07 < _Digital> I'll shut up now
00:07 < _Digital> it's not a default freq
00:07 < Zombine> _Digital, I manually entered 633 for some reason, shoulda done 667. >.>
00:07 < Zombine> wasn't thinking.
00:07 < i_c-Y> you can do 633, its just that nobodys going to sell you a stick of 633 specifically.
00:08 < jayhawker> Anyone seen aardvarq around lately? Or does anyone know a good way to contact him?
00:08 < i_c-Y> im going to take a stab in the dark and say that 667 with 2V might work. 
00:08 < _Digital> !seen aardvarq
00:08 < i_c-Y> seen aardvarq
00:08 <@efneTI86> aardvarq (aardvarq@localhost) was last seen leaving the partyline from efneTI89 8 days, 16 hours, 42 minutes ago.
00:08 <@efneTI86> aardvarq was last on IRC channel #tcpa 129 days, 2 hours, 40 minutes ago.
00:08 < incubus> BrandonW, all the work loads changed to 73OS :P
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00:10 < Zombine> What's the safest max value for the voltage to the RAM?
00:10 < Zombine> My mobo lets me go up to nearly 3.
00:10 < Tahben> mine goes to 11
00:10 < _Digital> there is an aritcle about the TI-83 OS being cracked, but what about the others? If we have the keys it means they're cracked right?
00:10 < incubus> link????
00:10 < i_c-Y> BrandonW is keeping it on the DL, til everythings done, _Digital 
00:10 < _Digital> Zombine: wouldn't go higher than 2.2
00:11 < i_c-Y> Zombine: depends if you have enthusiast sticks or not
00:11 < _Digital> thanks i_c-Y 
00:11 < Zombine> _Digital: K. I guess I'll just keep it at 667 then.
00:11 < i_c-Y> make sure its stable.
00:11 < _Digital> incubus: http://www.ticalc.org/archives/news/articles/14/145/145154.html
00:11 < incubus> oh yah :P
00:11 < Zombine> i_c-Y: 2 of them are(the 2GB ones), but the 1GB ones are just generic out-of-a-barrel from microcenter ones.
00:12 < _Digital> oh they aren't the same
00:12 < incubus> _Digital, no
00:12 < _Digital> that is why you're having problems
00:12 < i_c-Y> it doesnt really matter that they arent the same, _Digital 
00:12 < i_c-Y> its just a shit board thats causing most of the problems.
00:12 < _Digital> what if teh timings and voltages are different?
00:13 < Zombine> should default to slowest timings and highest voltages, no?
00:13 < i_c-Y> its the board. its actually quite common on the 650i side, _Digital 
00:13 < _Digital> okay
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00:14 < Zombine> I've honestly not had one issue with my 650i before this.
00:14 < TD-Linux> all DDR2 runs at same voltage
00:14 < TD-Linux> and you run at lowest shared timing
00:14 < Zombine> I had a lot of issues with the 780i, tho. =/
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00:15  * _Digital waits for money for CPU cooler, PSU, and two OCZ Vertex SSDs
00:15 < Tari> http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/images/09/september/darkcarn0.jpg I lolled
00:15 < i_c-Y> well, nvidia dropped the ball on any chipsets other than the AMD nforces for anything not the nforce 1-4 in terms of enthusiast stuff
00:16 < i_c-Y> amd side of course
00:16 < Zombine> I'm not even trying to overclock. =/
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00:24 < Zombine> damnit
00:24 < Zombine> it just BSoD's on boot. =/
00:25 < _Digital> your install was previously working though correct?
00:25 < Tari> memtest!
00:25 < Zombine> Windows Memtest BSoD'd too. >.<
00:25 < i_c-Y> i believe he was referring to memtest86+
00:25 < _Digital> live cd memtest
00:26 < Zombine> eh, no reason to test it. I know there's an issue.
00:26 < Zombine> but, I
00:26 < Zombine> er
00:26 < i_c-Y> but anyway, loosen your timings (5-5-5-15 should be good), drop frequency and/or increase voltage.
00:26 < Zombine> I'm going to go eat, I'll come screw with it later.
00:26 < Zombine> i_c-Y: timings are set to 5-5-5-14, freq is at 600, and voltage is at 2.4. =/
00:26 < i_c-Y> jesus
00:26 < _Digital> ^
00:26 < i_c-Y> drop that voltage a bit.
00:27 < i_c-Y> try 2
00:27 < Zombine> eh
00:27 < Zombine> it errors at 2 too.
00:27 < Zombine> I've slowly been incrementing it, didn't want to go past 2.4 tho.
00:28 < Zombine> 5-5-5-15 @ 600MHz, 2.02 V fails to boot.
00:30 < i_c-Y> you could just give up on haveing all 4 slots populated.
00:32 < Zombine> no fun what-so-ever in that
00:32 < Zombine> and I can really use the extra 2GB, I've been doing alot of virtualization on this PC lateley.
00:32 < _Digital> but with that you have a non-functional computer
00:33 < Zombine> hmm
00:33 < _Digital> buying new sticks is out of the question?
00:33 < incubus> WIN: http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/fail-owned-web-browsing-win.jpg?w=500&h=529
00:34  * Zombine supposes his 1GHz Xeon probablly doesn't support DDR2...
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00:36 < i_c-Y> _Digital: its not going to help. he should buy a new board if he wants to use all that RAM.
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00:36 < _Digital> eevn if they are matching pairs?
00:36 < _Digital> right hand and left hand don't sync correctly with certain letter combinations...
00:37 < _Digital> dsfafdsdrives me nuts
00:37 < _Digital> fricken XFS and your latency
00:37 < _Digital> makes teh system crawl sometimes
00:37 < i_c-Y> its just a terrible board, _Digital 
00:37 < _Digital> kk
00:38 < i_c-Y> most people are happy with 2 sticks working on that board, no more.
00:38 < i_c-Y> you can buy 4 matching sticks for all i care and it'll probably not work.
00:38 < _Digital> true, few do want/need all four
00:41 < i_c-Y> if they did it right then he wouldnt have this problem
00:56 < tr1p1ea> http://failblog.org/2009/09/04/soda-display-win/
00:56 < tr1p1ea> whoa!
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00:59 < _Digital> nice
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01:36 < BrandonW> incubus, there's still a little sieving left on the V200 key which you might see a little of.
01:36 < BrandonW> But yeah, for the most part, we're hard core into the 73 OS key.
01:37 < _Auron|G1> mm
01:37 < _Auron|G1> I'm so happy I'll be starting on my second major project
01:37 < BrandonW> What's that?
01:37 < _Auron|G1> Arkanis, vertical scrolling shooter
01:38 < BrandonW> Make Tetris. :(
01:38 < tr1p1ea> but where you have to shoot the blocks to rotate them
01:38 < _Auron|G1> I've already planned Arkanis
01:38 < _Auron|G1> look
01:38 < _Auron|G1> lol*
01:38 < tr1p1ea> hehe
01:38 < _Auron|G1> why did I type look o.O
01:38 < BrandonW> No, tr1p1ea.
01:38 < BrandonW> We already have stupid variants.
01:39 < BrandonW> I want CLASSIC Tetris.
01:39 < _Auron|G1> he wants original
01:39 < BrandonW> I don't think that's too much to ask.
01:39 < tr1p1ea> what about tinytetris?
01:39 < BrandonW> Classic.
01:39 < _Auron|G1> I can't call it Tetri*
01:39 < BrandonW> Call it Blocks.
01:39 < _Auron|G1> heh
01:39 < tr1p1ea> block puzzle
01:39 < tr1p1ea> Falling Block Puzzle
01:39 < tr1p1ea> 'Falling into Line'?
01:40 < BrandonW> Put wacky stuff in it if you want, but I want it in the options, classic Tetris.
01:40 < _Auron|G1> there's already a tetrid game on android market called Blocks
01:40 < BrandonW> Call it Lines then.
01:40 < _Auron|G1> Tetris*
01:40 < _Auron|G1> heh
01:40 < tr1p1ea> what about classic gameplay but the whole world just rotates and zooms randomly
01:40 < BrandonW> No.
01:40 < _Auron|G1> again, name taken
01:41 < _Auron|G1> tr1p1ea haha
01:41 < _Auron|G1> there's a gba game someone made that scales and rotates the game, it's trippy
01:41 < BrandonW> Call it Trippy.
01:41 < tr1p1ea> hehe
01:41 < BrandonW> I'm sure you can think of something.
01:42 < tr1p1ea> ok this is what you do
01:42 < tr1p1ea> have the blocks fall smoothly
01:42 < _Auron|G1> Quadis!
01:42 < tr1p1ea> :)
01:42 < tr1p1ea> O_O
01:42 < _Auron|G1> no results in names or descriptions in market
01:43 < BrandonW> Make Queue, that 89 Tetris-like game.
01:43 < BrandonW> I love that game.
01:43 < _Auron|G1> I could re-use menu engine in Stroids
01:43 < BrandonW> It can be classic Tetris or it does weird gravity stuff, too.
01:43 < tr1p1ea> how about you have like space for the top 1/3, then an atmosphere for the bottom 2/3 and as the blocks fall they appear to be going through 're-entry'???
01:43 < _Auron|G1> and game engine is there
01:43 < tr1p1ea> that would looks awesome!
01:43 < _Auron|G1> all I'd need is the simple game logic
01:43 < _Auron|G1> tr1p what?
01:43 < tr1p1ea> err
01:44 < _Auron|G1> ohh
01:44 < _Auron|G1> like meteos sorta
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01:44 < tr1p1ea> yeh
01:44 < _Auron|G1> meteos rocks o.o
01:44 < _Auron|G1> q should port that
01:44 < tr1p1ea> oh yeh meteos
01:44 < _Auron|G1> to android
01:44 < tr1p1ea> that must have been what i was thinking of :X
01:44 < tr1p1ea> :)
01:44 < _Auron|G1> I'm not making Meteos
01:44 < _Auron|G1> but
01:45 < _Auron|G1> the varying atomosphere conditions sound fun
01:45 < tr1p1ea> wind?
01:45 < tr1p1ea> water
01:46 < tr1p1ea> and heart?
01:46 < tr1p1ea> err
01:46 < _Auron|G1> fire
01:46 < _Auron|G1> lol
01:46 < _Auron|G1> a tetris game would be fun and quick to make
01:46 < _Auron|G1> bet I could make one in a week or so
01:46 < _Auron|G1> I'll keep it in mind
01:48 < _Auron|G1> main issue is rotating the group of blocks
01:49 < tr1p1ea> i iave no reason as to why in the world i was calculating the end points for some lines twice
01:49 < _Auron|G1> I wrote a tetris game in darkbasic (not pro version) many years ago
01:49 < _Auron|G1> lol
01:49 < tr1p1ea> like lines that go from x0,y0-x1,y1 and then another from x1,y1-x2,y2
01:49 < tr1p1ea> what a waste
01:49 < _Auron|G1> I have no idea why I was playing enemy death sounds twice pre-1.1 in Stroids either
01:49 < BrandonW> Rotating as in the controls for it?
01:50 < _Auron|G1> no, just game logic
01:50 < _Auron|G1> getting it to rotate without fucking up
01:50 < _Auron|G1> the ONLY hard part about it
01:50 < _Auron|G1> and really it isn't hard
01:51 < _Auron|G1> like rotating next to a wall or near fallen blocks
01:51 < BrandonW> Yeah, I see what you mean now.
01:51 < BrandonW> Sadly I've never written Tetris.
01:51 < tr1p1ea> what about a tetris where you can change the geometry of the block? Like change a T block to an L by moving the centre block to the side instead of the middle?
01:51 < _Auron|G1> o.O
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01:52 < _Auron|G1> googles owes me like $20 ;(
01:52 < tr1p1ea> bastards!
01:52 < _Auron|G1> stupid no-payouts-on-weekends
01:53 < _Auron|G1> actually maybe more than $20
01:53 < _Auron|G1> after today and yesterday
01:54 < _Auron|G1> so what have you been up to lately tr1p?
01:54 < tr1p1ea> cool
01:54 < tr1p1ea> nothing much really, just working and stuff
01:54 < tr1p1ea> coding sparingly
01:54 < _Auron|G1> any more work on the grayscale engine?
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01:54 < efneTI92> [Netham45] "Rock is overpowered, paper is fine." -Scissors
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01:55 < tr1p1ea> nah, though i was thinking of a better mask rotating scheme to hopefully curb the quality
01:55 < _Auron|G1> ah
01:55 < tr1p1ea> but last week during my breaks i rewrote that old 3D engine i had
01:55 < _Auron|G1> lol @ netham's join msg
01:55 < tr1p1ea> hehe
01:55 <+Netham45> _Auron|G1, thanks. :)
01:55 < _Auron|G1> you had a 3d engine?
01:55 <+Netham45> i_c-Y, _Digital, I gave up on the 4th stick, I jut can't make it work.
01:55 < _Auron|G1> netham: :D
01:56 < tr1p1ea> _Auron|G1: well only that wireframe thingy
01:56 < _Auron|G1> I should go back to my c++ software renderer and add in texturing
01:56 < _Auron|G1> and interpolate z buffer values
01:57 < i_c-Y> Netham45: if you really want it to work, you should get another board. 
01:57 < tr1p1ea> http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/1907/torus.gif
01:57 < i_c-Y> which probably isnt worth it
01:58 < _Auron|G1> what is that tr1p?
01:59 < tr1p1ea> a torus in point form
01:59 < _Auron|G1> ah
01:59 < tr1p1ea> http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/4652/xwing.gif theres your basic xwing
02:01 <+Netham45> i_c-Y, eh, if I had the money for another decent board, I would. I'm a bit on the poor side ATM, tho.
02:02 < i_c-Y> eh. may as well wait for a price drop on i7 or go i5 in a while anyway when you get the money
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02:02 <+Netham45> That's what I'm thinking. I could use this one as my server, to replace my old 1GHz Xeon server.
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02:29 < efneTI92> [LordMathi] I'm not a ninja, no idea what you're talking about.
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02:35 < efneTI92> [Randomist] CAUTION:  Exposure to this user may cause neurological damage.
02:43 < BrandonW> He also has neurological damage.
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02:52 < efneTI92> [DSP_Lord] I'm not a ninja, no idea what you're talking about.
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03:07 < incubus> http://lh6.ggpht.com/_EHZsoUS6SIA/Sp7BoOUv6EI/AAAAAAAAEx0/rpS0wzgZfcs/lublin1.jpg
03:07 < incubus> Is the entire world racist?
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03:21 < tr1p1ea> pretty much
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03:32 < jr19> yes
03:41 < incubus> lol
03:41 < incubus> jr19 with the definite yes.
03:41 < incubus> I summon BrandonW
03:41 < BrandonW> I'm here.
03:41 < incubus> watcha doooin? :)
03:44 < BrandonW> I'm working on a certificate editor thingy.
03:44 < BrandonW> To help further understand certificate images.
03:44 < BrandonW> And field lists.
03:45 < incubus> mmm :)
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03:53 < incubus> Team #tcpa only makes up half of the total work units completed in the RSA Lattice project
03:53 < incubus> :(
03:53 < incubus> er 
03:53 < incubus> only 2%
03:53 < incubus> The french team makes up over 59%, they own us
03:54 < BrandonW> The French team is in control of the project.
03:54 < BrandonW> With inside information.
03:54 < i_c-Y> youd think the french would have surrendered by now.
03:54 < BrandonW> And the ability to sabotage certain keys.
03:54 < BrandonW> *cough* 73 OS *cough*
03:55 < incubus> define sabotage
03:55 < incubus> make us crack keys that aren't what they appear to be?
03:55 < incubus> i_c-Y, huhu
03:56 < BrandonW> Introduce bad work units to cause computation errors.
03:56 < BrandonW> This is the third attempt at the 73 OS key.
03:56 < incubus> work units are supposed to be duplicated
03:56 < BrandonW> The first was because of a typo, I don't even know on the second one.
03:56 < incubus> ie multiple people work on the same unit
03:57 < incubus> why the hell would they intentionally sabotage it?
03:57 < BrandonW> I'm being stupid.
03:57 < incubus> madness.
03:58 < incubus> I really need to start understanding when you guys are making jokes
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04:32 < bsparks> Merthsoft, FUCK YOU :'(
04:34 < Merthsoft> :O
04:34 < BrandonW> What in the world is that for?
04:34 < incubus> ya, Why on earth does glk have voice?
04:35  * incubus grins
04:36 < bsparks> BrandonW, "_MR_F_On my way to Granville, OH to play a TH show at Denison U" Mr F is one of the bandmembers for Tally Hall
04:36 < bsparks> A band that I had full on plans and tickets to go see in PA, and never got to
04:36 < BrandonW> And what does that have to do with saying "fuck you" to Merthsoft?
04:36 < incubus> Merthsoft stole his tickets
04:36 < bsparks> It's students only
04:37 < bsparks> Merthsoft is a student
04:37 < incubus> oooh snap
04:37 < bsparks> I live less than a half hour's drive away
04:37 < incubus> so in a sense, he did steal them
04:37 < bsparks> And it's _free_ for students
04:37 < incubus> Merthsoft, you thief
04:37 < BrandonW> So he gets to go and you don't.
04:37 < BrandonW> So naturally you'd say fuck you to him.
04:37 < BrandonW> I can see now.
04:38 < bsparks> BrandonW, he had told me about it before news really got out, and I had already bookmarked a ride and the entire evening tomorrow for said concert over a week ago <_<
04:38 < bsparks> Because he told me I could go, and it's students only, not his fault. But still
04:41 < Merthsoft> i shoulda checked before tellingyou
04:42 < bsparks> I just figured some awesome bar or something was having them. Not the damn college itself
04:44 < bsparks> I need to get another game for the 360 :/
04:44 < Merthsoft> batman!
04:44 < bsparks> preferably a used cheap one lol
04:45 < bsparks> I still have to save up for a HDD, Headset, Gold Live
04:45 < bsparks> some msp to throw around
04:47 < bsparks> and a wireless connector for the pc
04:48 < bsparks> xbox 360 moneypit feature, ACTIVATE!
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04:56 < BrandonW> No hard drive at all?
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05:00 < bsparks> Nope
05:01 < bsparks> I figured the console had built in memory of at least something sensible like 512mb
05:01 < bsparks> so I didn't bother for a memory card either, and now, I am stuck kinda, at least i have the console, wireless controller, GH5, guitar, all for $250 <_<
05:01 < bsparks> used console though, *shrug*
05:02 < bsparks> aaand it's time for sleep
05:02 < bsparks> _o/
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05:33 < millinao> you know what would be great, a song made almost entirely from sounds from hardcore pornography
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05:49 < BrandonW> http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/1278/certedit.jpg It's coming along, I think.
05:50 < Randomist> millinao:  Hmm....
05:50 < Randomist> Actually, I'm pretty sure something like that already exists.
05:54 < millinao> what we need to find is a screaming woman glissandoing from low to high
05:54 < millinao> bam, instant melody
05:55 < BrandonW> I'm reminded of moanmyip.com.
05:55 < Randomist> I have a porn SoundFont or two.
05:55 < BrandonW> I'm pretty sure I got that link from this channel.
05:56 < millinao> it was pretty popular
05:57 < millinao> also, I found a neat trick: set your homepage to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Random
05:57 < BrandonW> I love it already, first place it took me to was http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_7_nuclear_bomb
05:58 < Randomist> It's like Fortune for your web browser.
05:58 < millinao> nice, I on the other hand learned that 21.6% of households in weston, vermont had children under 18 living with them
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08:55 <@chronomex> usb is a complicated beastie
08:55 <@chronomex> I'm sure I'll have bad dreams about it
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12:23 <@E-J> http://kuvaton.com/browse/12708/epicpizza.jpg
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13:23 < tr1p1ea> anyone seen District 9?
13:43 < tr1p1ea> Kevin has a 1.1 ROM TI-81?
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14:04 < efneTI92> [i_c-Y] It's like I'm the last sane person on Earth.
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15:12 <+JoeYoung> yo
15:23 < Merthsoft> BrandonW: how many registers does the 84+SE have?
15:24 < i_c-Y> isnt it a standard z80?
15:27 <@Andy_J> a,b,c,d,e,f,h,l,ixh,ixl,iyh,iyl,a',b',c',d',e',f',h',l',i,r,sp,pc (some of those obviously are not general purpose)
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15:30 < efneTI92> [TheStorm] Yes rivereye, it is time to go fishing.
15:32 < Merthsoft> thanks Andy_J 
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15:58 < incubus> wtf is a',b', etc?
15:58 < bsparks> back
15:59 < Tari> shadow registers, incubus 
15:59 < Tari> usually used to quickly save the main registers for interrupt processing
15:59 < incubus> are they general purpose?
15:59 < incubus> no special kung-fu necessary/
15:59 < incubus> ?
16:00 < Tari> exx and ex af,af' swap the main register with their respective shadows, which is the only way to access
16:00 < incubus> ah so they aren't
16:00 < incubus> lame
16:00 < Tari> *main registers
16:00 < incubus> exx swaps all?
16:00 < Tari> all but af
16:00 < incubus> lol...
16:01 < Tari> r, i, ix, iy, sp, and pc aren't shadowed
16:01 < incubus> right
16:01 < incubus> can you do ex b,b' ?
16:01 < Tari> no
16:01 < Tari> you'd have to exx
16:01 < incubus> me
16:01 < incubus> meh*
16:02 < incubus> so you have one REALLY fast one (I assume)
16:02 < incubus> which is the af
16:02 < incubus> how big is each register, one word?
16:02 < incubus> af being a double word?
16:03 < Tari> no, they're the same speec
16:03 < Tari> *speed
16:03 < incubus> ah cool
16:03 < Tari> each register pair is one word wide
16:03 < Tari> (register pairs being af, bc, de, hl)
16:03 < incubus> ah that's right
16:03 < incubus> now I remember
16:03 < Tari> and I guess ix, iy
16:03 < incubus> with a 32bit word?
16:03 < incubus> 16?
16:04 < Tari> 16
16:04 < incubus> been a long time since I've delt with the z80
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16:17 < i_c-Y> my current calculator has ARM with saturn emulation :)
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16:40 < Merthsoft> we're all so proud of you i_c-Y 
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16:42 < efneTI92> [leofox_] All we do in hell is play DDR!
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17:10 < bsparks> I wonder how much I can get the xbox 360 chat pad for locally
17:10 < i_c-Y> dealextreme probably has some cheap bootlegs
17:11 < i_c-Y> but thats not local
17:11 < bsparks> no, it's not lol
17:11 < bsparks> and I'd want the real thing
17:11 < bsparks> not that I am planning on really using it, but I want to tinker <_<
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17:36 <@chronomex> morning
17:36 <@chronomex> today is usb day
17:38 <@_Auron_> o.o
17:38 <@chronomex> as in
17:38 <@chronomex> I'm going to do shitloads of usb REing
17:39 <@chronomex> but first, breakfast
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17:49 <@E-J> http://i28.tinypic.com/vgj7mo.jpg
17:54 <@_Auron_> ugh our weather forecasters blow
17:54 <@_Auron_> they've said it was supposed to rain from thursday to sunday on and off
17:54 <@_Auron_> well, we've gotten 5 minutes of rain so far. that's it. -.-
17:54 <@chronomex> fantastic
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18:23 < BrandonW> 92+ Flash application key is CRACKED!
18:23 < BrandonW> That means we have every important key.
18:23 < BrandonW> We can put Flash applications and OSes on every model.
18:26 <@chronomex> awesome!
18:26 <@chronomex> 73 is still pending, right?
18:26 < BrandonW> Yes.
18:26 <@chronomex> so no ticalc.org article yet
18:27 < BrandonW> Right, we still have 4 keys.
18:27 < BrandonW> One is in phase 3.
18:27 < BrandonW> The others are all sieving.
18:27 < BrandonW> We're close, though.
18:27 < BrandonW> TI is definitely screwed now, though.
18:27 <@chronomex> :D
18:29 < TheStorm> lol, to bad we don't have their latest failure hacked yet butmost poeple are still buying 84+'s and 89's rather than the Nspire
18:30 < BrandonW> Once we have a reason to switch, I guarantee you real progress will be made.
18:30 < leofox_> There's more reason to crack the nspire key though
18:30 < leofox_> is there even a way to run ASM on that thing yet?
18:31 < BrandonW> No, we don't even know that there is a key on it. People are making too many assumptions.
18:31 < BrandonW> We know basically NOTHING.
18:31 < BrandonW> Everything is encrypted PC-side and oncalc and we have no way to access the Flash chips.
18:31 < leofox_> I heard there was a 1024 bit key on it
18:31 < BrandonW> Where did you hear that from?
18:31 < leofox_> some guy in here
18:32 < BrandonW> He didn't know what he was talking about.
18:33 < i_c-Y> anyhow, if there were a 1024 bit RSA key, you may as well give up for now because you're not going to be able to break it in any reasonable amount of time.
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18:34 < BrandonW> The only reason we can do this is because the calculators are so old and 512-bit was semi-sufficient at the time.
18:34 < BrandonW> The way to break the Nspire is through exploits.
18:34 < Iyunkateu> hey all
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18:36 < Iyun> hmm while I'm here...is there a way to change a string to an integer or vice versa on a TI calculator? I don't think there is...
18:36 < i_c-Y> if its not built in, you can look up how to write an atoi or itoa function pretty easily
18:36 < BrandonW> We need context.
18:36 < BrandonW> BASIC, assembly?
18:36 < BrandonW> Model?
18:37 < BrandonW> I'm so excited I can't even bring myself to verify the key.
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18:40 < Iyun> well there's some kid that's really smart at my school. He's like 9 years old and he can do calculus. I recently introduced him to TI programming, and he made a program that finds the mean of an unlimited amount of numbers
18:41 < BrandonW> Nice.
18:41 < Iyun> when you're done you just break the program, and it uses a variable's value to determine whether the first part of the program has been executed and if so, skips it and calculates the mean
18:42 < BrandonW> What model is this?
18:42 < Iyun> I think he did it on a TI-83
18:42 < Iyun> I was able to make a shorter Python program, and while I was turning the Python program directly back into TI-BASIC, I found that the way he made it able to do unlimited numbers was also achievable by using For()
18:43 < Iyun> But he did some thing where it uses a variable to specify how many times to execute an instruction (without using For), I don't remember exactly how it went though
18:44 < Iyun> My version of the program works by prompting the user to specify the amount of numbers they're going to enter
18:46 < Iyun> The way it works with an unlimited amount of numbers is that every time it gets input from the user, it redefines a variable like this: total = total + input
18:46 < leofox_> oh wow
18:47 < leofox_> why are you discussing this like it's an advanced programming concept?
18:47 < Iyun> well I shouldn't be, but I probably am :P
18:47 < leofox_> wanna know a trick with lists
18:47 < leofox_> did you know SetupEditor Llist works like this:
18:48 < leofox_> if defined(list) Unarchive list else create list
18:48 < BrandonW> Yes, I did.
18:48 < Iyun> Really, I just think it's kinda clever how he did it all
18:48 < leofox_> I know you know BrandonW
18:48 < Iyun> even though it probably could have been done in a much simpler way
18:55 < BrandonW> 92+ app key verified.
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18:57  * BrandonW squeals
18:57 < BrandonW> There are now 4 keys remaining.
18:57 < BrandonW> http://brandonw.net/keys.zip and http://brandonw.net/keys.txt updated.
18:58 < BrandonW> All keys to date have been verified by resigning an OS or application that either produces an identical signature or works on a real calculator.
18:58 < BrandonW> We lack: the 73 OS key (not needed), the V200 app key (not needed), 84+/SE app key (not needed), and the date stamp key (not needed).
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19:03 < BrandonW> !t Welcome to #TCPA | Design a banner for www.picturesofducks.org. Win 5 dollars! | All required keys factored! Help factor some more!  http://boinc.unsads.com/rsals/
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19:03 < BrandonW> grrr
19:03 < BrandonW> !t Welcome to #TCPA | Design a banner for picturesofducks.org. Win 5 dollars! | All required keys factored! Help factor some more!  http://boinc.unsads.com/rsals/
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19:03 <@E-J> http://www.kuvalauta.fi/b/src/125215868298.jpg
19:06 < i_c-Y> ...?
19:07 <@E-J> finnish idol star, who singed jpop on audition
19:07 <@E-J> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeOXuhq1OQc
19:09 < leofox_> E-J lol jpop girl
19:13 < leofox_> did you know the jpop idol style was invented in france in the 60s?
19:14 <@E-J> i thought it was in the 1600s
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19:15 < efneTI92> [Netham45] "Rock is overpowered, paper is fine." -Scissors
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19:17 < BrandonW> Netham, we got the 92+ app key.
19:17 < BrandonW> That's all the really important ones.
19:17 < BrandonW> 4 more to go.
19:17 <+Netham45> cool
19:17 < BrandonW> We have applications and OSes on every model now.
19:17 < i_c-Y> what are the 4 left?
19:17 <+Netham45> Nifty.
19:17 < BrandonW> I said earlier.
19:17 < BrandonW> We lack: the 73 OS key (not needed), the V200 app key (not needed), 84+/SE app key (not needed), and the date stamp key (not needed).
19:18 <@E-J> not needed because others can be used?
19:19 < BrandonW> Yes.
19:19 < BrandonW> And in the case of the 73, because we have the battery trick to put unsigned OSes on there.
19:19 <@E-J> wouldn't it be easier with key?
19:19 <+Netham45> well, not having to trick it, just being able to use an offical method, is alot better.
19:19 < BrandonW> Yes, which is why you should keep sieving. :)
19:19 < BrandonW> We're not DONE done.
19:20 < BrandonW> But if TI shut the project down, it wouldn't be the end of the world at this point.
19:20 < BrandonW> We've won.
19:20 <+Netham45> lol, I don't think TI was fighting teribally hard to win. :P
19:20 <@E-J> <evil laugh>
19:20 < BrandonW> You don't? What was all the DMCA notices for?
19:21 <+Netham45> I think that was just a quick attempt to shut us down.
19:21 < TD-Linux> E-J, I avoid anything with /b/ in the URL
19:22 <+Netham45> If they really cared, they probabally could have legally acted upon UnitedTI.
19:22 < TD-Linux> they can't shut you down
19:22 < TD-Linux> in fact you could countersue for false DMCA notices
19:23 < BrandonW> We know that...
19:23 < BrandonW> I'm tired of hearing it.
19:23 < BrandonW> It's not worth it.
19:23 <@E-J> TD-Linux: it's not that bad, maybe little scary or repulsive, only face pictures of (living) girl that someone would say to be cute
19:24 < TD-Linux> I would agree, but there is no reason to comply with them either...
19:25 < BrandonW> They would simply shut down the site and be done with it.
19:25 < BrandonW> Everyone complies with them because they don't want the hassle.
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19:28 < BrandonW> If they can't get you, they'll go to your host, your ISP, whatever it takes.
19:28 < BrandonW> One of them will blindly comply.
19:28 < BrandonW> I'd rather have the power, not them.
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19:51 < bsparks> <random thought> The jack on the bottom of the 360 controller has the 2.5mm jack for the mic, and 2 wings, wing has 2 pins, total of 4 between the two of them. The chat pad that connects there passes the audio through, but what of the 4 pins, used for data I assume... I wonder if the chat pad is USB </random thought>
19:51 < BrandonW> It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest.
19:51 < BrandonW> It's more than ilkely a USB composite device.
19:51 < BrandonW> Or hub
19:52 < bsparks> hmm...
19:53 < bsparks> I should get one and try it out, etc
19:53 < bsparks> it'd be cool as a little mini keyboard
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19:58 < BrandonW> 4 keys left, Merthsoft!
19:58 < Merthsoft> holy cats!
19:58 < BrandonW> We can put applications and OSes on every model.
19:58 < Merthsoft> fuck yeah we're cool
19:58 < Merthsoft> i feel like i'm part of history
20:00 < BrandonW> You are!
20:00 < BrandonW> We all are!
20:00 < BrandonW> We might even be the birth of something bigger than calculators...
20:00 < BrandonW> A distributed RSA factorization project.
20:00 < BrandonW> With other applications/uses.
20:00 < bsparks> lawl, the 360 supports FAT, FAT32, HFS+, but not NTFS
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20:01 < efneTI92> [TheStorm] Yes rivereye, it is time to go fishing.
20:05 < BrandonW> TheStorm, we can put applications and OSes on every model! 4 keys remain!
20:05 < BrandonW> I'm going to be greeting everyone with that.
20:09 < TheStorm> BrandonW, I saw your post eirlier
20:12 < Merthsoft> post?
20:12 < Merthsoft> is my picture in the post?
20:12 < BrandonW> On the United TI thread.
20:12 < Merthsoft> i think my picture should be everywhere
20:12 < Merthsoft> be like "Merthsoft made this OS!"
20:12 < BrandonW> The final release order will probably be: 010A (84+/SE Flash application key), 0108 (Voyage 200 Flash application key), 02 (73 OS key), and the date stamp key.
20:12 < Merthsoft> which one is going right now?
20:13 < BrandonW> The first is in the final phase on somebody's PC, the second is somewhere between "a little more sieving left" and "in the final phase on somebody's PC", the third is still sieving, and the fourth hasn't started sieving yet (it will when the third is done).
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20:14 < Merthsoft> i'll help
20:15 < BrandonW> It sounds like we have 1-2 reliable people with fast PCs and experience doing the final processing, so that's good.
20:15 < BrandonW> So all we can do is just keep on sieving until the date stamp key is done.
20:16 < TheStorm> seen joel_s
20:16 <@efneTI86> I don't know who joel_s is.
20:16 < BrandonW> seen JoelS
20:16 <@efneTI86> I don't know who JoelS is.
20:16 < BrandonW> LIAR
20:16 < TheStorm> !seen JoelS
20:16 <@efneTI86> JoelS (~JSeligste@1601br1-egress-1.corp.tfbnw.net) was last seen quitting from #tcpa 18 hours, 42 minutes ago stating (Quit: Leaving).
20:16 < TheStorm> it seems if you have +v or higher it needs the !
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20:23 < efneTI92> [Jonimus] Yes rivereye, it is time to go fishing.
20:25 <@_Auron_> Merthsoft: I'm going to be working on Arkanis after I push Stroids 1.1.1 
20:25 <@_Auron_> which will be soon
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20:34 <@E-J> http://yle.fi/uutiset/news/2009/09/swine_flu_epidemic_hits_garrisons_979274.html
20:34 <@E-J> somehow glad that i served my service healthly 8 years ago
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20:41 < BrandonW> I THINK we
20:41 < BrandonW> we
20:41 < BrandonW> Agh.
20:41 < BrandonW> I think we'll have 010A tomorrow morning.
20:43 < Jonimus> woot
20:43 < BrandonW> I'm not sure where 0108 is at, but more than likely 2 days away.
20:46 < Jonimus> well My desktop is booted into Arch Right now and Boinc seems to have issues with Arch
20:47 < BrandonW> Out of the 4 keys left, the 73 OS key is most important since we still have to resort to the battery trick to put an OS on it.
20:47 < BrandonW> But sadly it's next-to-last.
20:48 < Jonimus> well that is what my Laptop is doing atm
20:48 < BrandonW> Mine, too.
20:48 < Jonimus> and I think my mom's Desktop is on it also
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20:49 < BrandonW> 010A can be tested with Wappsign, 0108 can be tested with resign68k, 02 can be tested with Build8XU and the date stamp key with GenerateSignature.
20:49 < BrandonW> So we're good, just waiting.
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21:36 < incubus> Is there a function to go from finite decimal to fraction?
21:36 < incubus> whoops
21:36 < incubus> on the ti89*
21:36 < incubus> approx?
21:37 <+glk> Exact mode uses decimals
21:37 <+glk> Diamond key Enter gives a decimal answer in exact mode
21:38 < incubus> I don't want it in decimal though,  I want to be able to go from .5 to 1/2
21:39 < incubus> I know this is on the 83
21:39 <+glk> Go to exact mode
21:39 < incubus> er I'm sorry I was in the wrong mode, but is that the ONLY way?
21:39 < incubus> there's no easy function?
21:39 <+glk> In exact mode  .5 gives 1/2
21:40 < incubus> I'll take that as a yes, that is the only way
21:41 <+glk> In a program, you can select modes
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22:23 < Jonimus> incubus, there is an exact() function
22:29 <+glk> exact(.5)   1/2  in approximate mode
22:38 < bsparks> I'm gonna start the greatest project ever <_<
22:38 < bsparks> I'm gonna let people search xkcd comics
22:39 < bsparks> for text that appears in the comic, or alt text, etc
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22:39 < efneTI92> [Randomist] CAUTION:  Exposure to this user may cause neurological damage.
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23:01 <+Netham45> *disappears to upgrade to wIndows 7 RTM*
23:02 <+Netham45> bbiab
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23:29 < Merthsoft> woo just beat batman
23:38 < i_c-Y> bsparks: you can do that with the xkcd forums already i think
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23:46 < bsparks> i_c-Y, forum search searches all topics, etc even under comics it searches replies too
23:49 < bsparks> I wonder how cheap HDMI cables are at microcenter
23:50 < i_c-Y> "The ELF (Earth Liberation Front) has claimed responsibility for destroying the primary AM towers used by radio station KRKO in Washington state. From their statement: 'AM radio waves cause adverse health effects including a higher rate of cancer, harm to wildlife, and that the signals have been interfering with home phone and intercom lines.' The poor intercom performance must have been the last straw."
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