--- Log opened Mon Aug 31 00:00:44 2009 00:01 -!- \BAF64\ [~ferrisr@cpe-74-67-34-29.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa 00:01 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v \BAF64\] by efneTI81 00:03 -!- aksnowman [~MrSmith@216.137.217.158] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 00:03 <+i_c-Y> factor a prime? 00:04 <+Michael_V> yes 00:04 <+Michael_V> that's all that's being done here 00:04 <+Michael_V> There's a prime number and it's been factored into two factors which when multiplied together, equal the original 00:04 -!- Spengo [~Spengo@64.251.241.35] has joined #tcpa 00:04 <+Michael_V> it makes TI seem very silly, doesn't it? 00:04 < Barrett> Michael_V, then it isn't prime 00:05 < Barrett> unless one of them is 1 00:05 <+Michael_V> err yes 00:05 <+Michael_V> I'm not paying attention 00:05 <+Michael_V> factoring a non-prime number into two prime factors 00:05 < sir_lewk> they make these calculators for math education, then get upset when we put our good educations to use :) 00:06 -!- _Auron|G1 [~Auron-G1@m4e0e36d0.tmodns.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 380 seconds] 00:06 <+Michael_V> If TI did nothing they'd find it was very low-key 00:06 -!- \\BAF\IRC [~ferrisr@cpe-74-67-34-29.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 380 seconds] 00:06 <+Michael_V> and no one is going to modify and distribute their OS anyway 00:06 <+Michael_V> instead, they make a huge media spectacle out of it 00:06 -!- aksnowman [~MrSmith@rdbk-14180.mtaonline.net] has joined #tcpa 00:08 < sir_lewk> tonight I see a "Local FOX News Special: Can Internet Hackers turn my calculator into a BOMB?!?" 00:13 < BrandonW> It's worked well for them up to this point. 00:13 < BrandonW> Being low-key, I mean. 00:13 < BrandonW> Or stupid, whatever you want to call it. 00:13 -!- DarkLord_ [~DarkLord@96-42-27-74.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 00:13 < Nikky> haw haw 00:14 <+JoeYoung> gee, I wonder if this makes schools less likely to buy TI's 'hackable' calculators :D 00:15 < Nikky> not at all 00:15 < Nikky> schools are in TI's pants 00:15 < BrandonW> They don't have much of a choice unless they go with the Nspire. 00:15 < Nikky> and HP calculatorts suck balls 00:15 < BrandonW> We will hack that thing to pieces once it starts becoming more prevalent. 00:15 < BrandonW> If it does. 00:16 -!- DarkLord_ [~DarkLord@96-42-27-74.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #tcpa 00:16 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v DarkLord_] by SnowCrash 00:16 <+i_c-Y> HP calculators rock - they're a bit unweildly for the middle school - highschoolers though 00:16 < BrandonW> I'm going to go eat. 00:16 < Nikky> Shut up troll. 00:16 < Nikky> We all know you are one 00:17 <+i_c-Y> am not 00:18 < Nikky> are to 00:18 -!- mode/#tcpa [+o Nikky] by efneTI86 00:18 <+JoeYoung> :/ 00:18 <+JoeYoung> Nikky 00:18 <+JoeYoung> you're not funny 00:18 <+JoeYoung> :| 00:18 <+JoeYoung> not anymore. 00:19 < sir_lewk> / 00:19 < sir_lewk> :| 00:19 < sir_lewk> \ 00:20 <@Nikky> thank you sir_lewk 00:21 <@Nikky> bedtime 00:21 <@Nikky> later bitches 00:21 <+i_c-Y> :( 00:21 <+i_c-Y> so mean Nikky 00:22 < sir_lewk> he says it in a lovingly way 00:24 <+JoeYoung> He loves to be a prick :P 00:25 <+JoeYoung> A modern day Narcissus he is. 00:26 -!- Michael_V [michael@ip68-109-186-79.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [] 00:35 -!- DarkLord_ [~DarkLord@96-42-27-74.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 00:36 -!- DarkLord_ [~DarkLord@96-42-27-74.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #tcpa 00:36 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v DarkLord_] by efneTI86 00:40 <+JoeYoung> *sigh* 00:40 <+JoeYoung> I'm really in a bad financial position now :/ 00:40 <+JoeYoung> Not in debt bad, just broke bad 00:41 <+i_c-Y> well if you stopped buying crack.... 00:48 < _3fg> same here JoeYoung 00:49 <+JoeYoung> BrandonW, BOINC is telling me that I'm getting computational errors. 00:52 <+JoeYoung> actually, IIRC, Narcissus was gay. 00:52 <+i_c-Y> wha? 00:52 <+i_c-Y> oh 00:52 <+JoeYoung> So I did not mean to infer that Nikky was gay. 00:53 <+JoeYoung> Just saying. 00:53 <+i_c-Y> you know whats a good book about mythology? Ovid's Metamorphoses 00:53 <+i_c-Y> its like the encyclopedia of mythology. 00:55 <+JoeYoung> I thought it was some collaboration from ancient fetishists. 00:56 <+JoeYoung> :/ 00:59 -!- DarkLord_ [~DarkLord@96-42-27-74.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 01:00 < DrDnar> Speaking of DMCA, BrandonW, though I doubt, OS2 is very close in name to OS/2. 01:00 -!- DarkLord_ [~DarkLord@96-42-27-74.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #tcpa 01:00 < DrDnar> er 01:00 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v DarkLord_] by efneTI80 01:01 < Tari> no one cares about OS/2 01:01 < DrDnar> The name OS2 is close to OS/2. Though I doubt that IBM or Microsoft will care. 01:01 < sir_lewk> that'd be a trademark issue, and nobody care about OS/2 01:03 <+i_c-Y> you can always rename it if they complain 01:09 < sir_lewk> or you can tell them to go back to the 90s and stfu 01:09 <+JoeYoung> ok, weird 01:10 <+JoeYoung> supposedly paypal wired 14.01 from my account to pay this guy. he obviously got the payment because my item got shipped 01:11 <+JoeYoung> however, amegy tells me that no transaction was made, so I still have that money :/ 01:11 <+JoeYoung> wtf? 01:11 <+JoeYoung> does it take like 4 days to update? 01:11 <+JoeYoung> my last few paypal purchases were swift with the transaction 01:11 <+i_c-Y> paypal can be a bit weird 01:12 <+JoeYoung> :/ 01:12 <+JoeYoung> how weird? 01:13 <+JoeYoung> like 14.01 appered in thin air weird or just too lazy to update frequently weird? 01:13 -!- Tribal [~Tribal@oh-76-5-240-130.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has left #tcpa [Leaving] 01:13 <+i_c-Y> paypal is the darkness. you have no idea what goes on inside, and chances are you don't want to know 01:13 -!- Tribal [~Tribal@oh-76-5-240-130.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #tcpa 01:14 < sir_lewk> at the center of paypal is a Win ME machine, churning out random numbers that are translated into transactions 01:24 -!- glk [GrahamKend@adsl-70-234-96-129.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net] has quit [http://grahamkendall.net/ my url] 01:29 < BrandonW> So I'm sitting in the Wal-Mart parking lot and my G1 tells me I have a new e-mail, telling me the keys have been posted to Wikileaks! 01:30 < DrDnar> Sweet. 01:30 < BrandonW> There is no end to this now. 01:30 < BrandonW> You are all fortunate to not have seen a giddy nerd running around Wal-Mart. 01:33 < BrandonW> I don't know who's responsible for that, but thank you. 01:34 < DrDnar> Have you sent a message to chillingeffects.org ? 01:36 < BrandonW> Nope. 01:41 < DrDnar> Bah. 01:41 < BrandonW> I don't really know anything about Wikileaks, do stories get approved by some moderator or does anybody put anything they want up there? 01:41 < DrDnar> I have 'router' in my hosts file as resolving to the IP of our router. 01:41 < DrDnar> Google Chrome does a Google search whenever I type in 'router' 01:41 < DrDnar> I donno. 01:41 <@Andy_J> because it doesn't look like a URL 01:41 <@Andy_J> try http://router 01:42 < DrDnar> Yeah, that works. 01:42 <@Andy_J> or make it be rout.er 01:42 < DrDnar> Heh. 01:42 <+JoeYoung> Holy..... where did this TI-83+ come from!? :O 01:42 <+JoeYoung> How long have I had this? :O 01:43 < DrDnar> If I were evil, I'd make a legit site (ti.com?) resolve to it. 01:45 < DrDnar> http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Suppressed_Texas_Instruments_cryptographic_signing_keys,_28_Aug_2009 01:48 < BrandonW> i_c-Y, somebody, explain the nature of Wikileaks to me! 01:49 -!- TheStorm [~TheStorm@182.244.226.166.in-addr.arpa] has joined #tcpa 01:49 < efneTI92> [TheStorm] Yes rivereye, it is time to go fishing. 01:52 <+JoeYoung> BrandonW, BOINC is telling me that I'm getting computational errors. 01:52 < BrandonW> I've never seen that. 01:53 <+JoeYoung> Aloso, Wikileaks is one of the best places on the internet 01:53 <+JoeYoung> well, it stopped running for me :( 01:53 < BrandonW> Are stories approved or just automatically posted? 01:53 <+JoeYoung> I dunno, but all the existing ones or relevant 01:53 < BrandonW> What? 01:54 <+JoeYoung> so either they get approval or it's the one place on the internet where people actually stop being a dick. 01:54 < BrandonW> "all the existing ones or relevant"? 01:59 -!- glk [glk@adsl-70-234-96-129.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net] has joined #tcpa 01:59 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v glk] by efneTI86 01:59 < BrandonW> It just hit me that the DMCA notice I posted actually links to United TI. 01:59 < BrandonW> Where the key still exists. 02:07 < Tari> thar it is 02:07 < Tari> submissions to wikileaks are reviewed by the editors before going on the site 02:07 < BrandonW> Link to me to that statement. 02:07 < BrandonW> I must be blind. 02:08 < Tari> http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Wikileaks:About#How_many_steps_are_there_between_my_submission_and_publication.3F 02:09 -!- Mwyann [~Mwy@88-123-68-18.rev.libertysurf.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:09 < BrandonW> Thar it is. 02:14 < chronomex> evening #tcpa 02:14 < chronomex> I am SO FULL of teriyaki 02:15 < BrandonW> Evening. 02:15 < DrDnar> bwahaha 02:16 < DrDnar> I can embed the keys in a PNG file in the iTXt block. 02:16 -!- Mwyann [~Mwy@88-123-68-18.rev.libertysurf.net] has joined #tcpa 02:16 < TheStorm> lol, do it DrDnar 02:17 < DrDnar> Not much room left for the actual image; I need to keep the image under 15K for use as an avatar. 02:17 < DrDnar> Oh, I'm talking about DeCSS. 02:17 < DrDnar> Might as well throw the TI keys in there. 02:18 < chronomex> !qadd at the center of paypal is a Win ME machine, churning out random numbers that are translated into transactions 02:18 <@efneTI86> Quote 1633 added 02:19 < DrDnar> That was random. 02:19 < chronomex> it was funny 02:19 < BrandonW> I pride myself on OS2's name, DrDnar. 02:19 < BrandonW> If they want to bitch, I'll be more than happy to change it. 02:20 < TheStorm> OS2 reminds me of OS/2 02:20 < BrandonW> Good! 02:21 < BrandonW> With that guy on United TI, it looks like we have some real competition for creating a third-party OS. 02:21 * BrandonW squeals 02:21 < BrandonW> I'm so glad to see this. 02:21 < BrandonW> Not that there wasn't with Tari or anything. 02:21 < TheStorm> well if tari gets off his lazy bum LIFOS could really be a contender 02:21 < TheStorm> lol 02:21 < BrandonW> I firmly believe this is where the community's heading now. 02:21 < BrandonW> We've done all we can do with TI, it's time to go further. 02:23 < Tari> TheStorm, poke me more 02:23 < Tari> and maybe I'll get things done 02:23 <+bsparks> do they make some straight up ethernet hubs anymore? 02:23 < BrandonW> If it's poking you want, I'll be more than happy to oblige. 02:23 < Tari> heck, I just need to work on linking (ugh) 02:23 <@Andy_J> bsparks: unlikely 02:23 <+bsparks> well fuck =\ 02:23 <+bsparks> it'd be nice to have one 02:24 <+bsparks> or even a simple ethernet splitter >_> 02:24 < TheStorm> wouldn't a dumb switch be the same thing? 02:24 < Tari> it does some sorts of memory management 02:24 < BrandonW> I can't wait to finally do a release...we should have 73, 83+, and 84+ 73Us/8XUs, and a 05-signed one probably couldn't hurt. 02:24 <@Andy_J> a switch by definition is smarter than a hub 02:24 < Tari> although I could really improve that 02:25 < Tari> be more of a proper heap 02:25 <+i_c-Y> <+bsparks> do they make some straight up ethernet hubs anymore? <- yes, but the prices are exorbiant. 02:25 <+bsparks> Andy_J, true, I wonder how much the cheapest eth switch is at micro center 02:25 <@Andy_J> too much. 02:25 < Tari> the trouble with a proper heap is managing pointers 02:25 <+i_c-Y> why do you want a hub instead of switch? 02:26 <+bsparks> i_c-Y, eh, no particular reason 02:26 < Tari> but it's not threaded, so programs should know when their heap chunks get moved 02:26 <+i_c-Y> i still have a netgear ds108 under my bed 02:26 <+bsparks> I just remember in the old network we had here, we had 1 router and one hub, and everything worked well\ 02:26 <+bsparks> with 2 routers, it took a lot of work to set it up 02:26 <+bsparks> with 3? geeze >_> 02:27 <@Andy_J> so... no specific reason for a hub instead of a switch 02:27 < BrandonW> Do you think it's legal to come up with an 8XU patch system and distribute the patches (not the 8XUs)? 02:27 < chronomex> I think the diff/patch system has been used as a legitimate workaround before 02:28 < BrandonW> We could set up a simple package that requires you go find the .key files somehow, and all you have to do is dump some patches in it and hit a button. 02:28 < chronomex> yes. 02:28 < chronomex> I like this 02:29 < BrandonW> It sounds sketchy to me, but come on, I released Chameleon which pretty much does exactly that. 02:29 < BrandonW> And nothing was said. 02:29 < chronomex> I've heard of it being used in other places entirly 02:29 < chronomex> much higher-profile places 02:30 < BrandonW> I think we should come up with a basic patch system for 83+/84+ series OSes to add basic things like a Flash unlock BCALL. 02:30 < BrandonW> Remove testing and reset functionality... 02:30 < BrandonW> Maybe even embed applications into it. 02:31 < BrandonW> We do have a full sector on the SE/84+ OSes to use. 02:32 < BrandonW> Anyway, I need to rip these keys, send them off, and then spend the whole night doing work stuff. 02:35 -!- Tari [~Tari@emcnair-79-224.resnet.mtu.edu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:37 < BrandonW> Is tonight 68k USB night, chronomex? 02:42 < DrDnar> I found a program called TweakPNG ( http://entropymine.com/jason/tweakpng/ ) that lets you add text chunks to PNG files. 02:43 < incubus> nice 02:43 < incubus> BrandonW, have you been able to run a completely independent OS on the ti-83+? 02:44 < BrandonW> You mean my own OS without depending on the TI-OS in any way, signed and running on real 83+ hardware? 02:44 < incubus> yes 02:45 < BrandonW> Yes. 02:45 * incubus gets giddy 02:46 < BrandonW> I've been giddy all day. 02:46 < BrandonW> And I have a ton of stuff to do. 02:46 < BrandonW> 8AM deadlines. 02:46 <+JoeYoung> Wow 02:46 < incubus> is BOINC 'down' for you guys? 02:46 < BrandonW> It's been working fine all day for me. 02:46 < incubus> grr wtrf 02:46 < incubus> wtf* 02:46 <+JoeYoung> Computational error? 02:46 <+JoeYoung> :/ 02:46 < BrandonW> Didn't you say your computer got hot and shut off? Maybe you should use another PC. 02:47 <+JoeYoung> Yeah, but I found a fix for that. 02:47 < TheStorm> heat may have caused the error JoeYoung 02:47 <+JoeYoung> And it ran fine for many hours 02:47 <+i_c-Y> adequate coolin? 02:47 <+JoeYoung> yes 02:47 < TheStorm> lapto, so no :p 02:48 <+JoeYoung> Depends on location :P 02:48 < TheStorm> freezer :P 02:48 <+JoeYoung> I'll just reset the project listing and it should work fine again. 02:49 <+JoeYoung> :/ 02:50 <@Andy_J> minor quibble, but please don't refer to this distributed factoring project merely as "BOINC", because that's just the framework 02:51 <@Andy_J> a lot of other things use BOINC... like seti@home 02:51 < TheStorm> rlas or w/e its called 02:52 < chronomex> BrandonW: it is indeed 02:52 < chronomex> most probably will not get any code off the grond 02:52 < chronomex> ground, today is mostly Ida Pro night 02:52 < BrandonW> I imagine it'll take time before you can even start that. 02:52 < chronomex> certainly 02:52 < chronomex> but I know now that USB IO is at 0x710000 02:53 < BrandonW> Dan took several weeks studying the OS and what it does, and wrote a port monitor application that watched the ports and logged their values throughout initialization and various events. 02:53 < BrandonW> And then started on usb8x. 02:53 < chronomex> which isn't surprising, since most other IO is 0x70,00,00 or 0x60,00,00 02:53 < chronomex> aye 02:53 < chronomex> I've located USB_SendData thanks to kofler 02:53 < BrandonW> That's probably going to be a bulk transfer as an 89Ti USB device. 02:54 < chronomex> okay, yeah 02:54 < chronomex> I've found the device name strings too 02:54 < incubus> I uninstalled it and changed the directory, I think a specific file got damaged 02:54 < chronomex> :( 02:54 < BrandonW> I'm trying to set it up on another PC and I get "Output file absent" and stuff like everyone else has been getting. 02:55 < incubus> hmm 02:56 < incubus> BrandonW, you're talking about BOINC? 02:56 < BrandonW> Yes. 02:56 < incubus> 'like everyone else has been getting'? 02:56 < BrandonW> Michael got the exact message earlier tonight... 02:56 < incubus> weird 02:56 < incubus> I just got a shitload of 'computation error' messages 02:56 < incubus> sigh 02:57 < TheStorm> RSALS, so other boinc projects are not confused with it 02:58 <+JoeYoung> incubus: that's exactly what I got :/ 02:58 < incubus> :( 02:58 <+JoeYoung> I CALLED IT FIRST HOURS AGO ZOMG 02:59 <+JoeYoung> the tasks had something to do with the 73OS 02:59 < BrandonW> You got me, guys...but at least the first PC's working fine. 02:59 -!- Mwyann [~Mwy@88-123-68-18.rev.libertysurf.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 03:00 < BrandonW> Somehow I'm able to process the 73 OS key jobs. 03:01 < BrandonW> I don't understand why United TI and the BOINC project haven't been taken down. 03:01 < chronomex> heh, yeah 03:02 < BrandonW> That forum thread should be gone by now. 03:02 < BrandonW> I can see why the BOINC project might still be up. 03:02 < TheStorm> TI clearly has no clue what is really going on 03:02 < incubus> lol 03:02 <+JoeYoung> Who has the power to take it down? 03:02 < incubus> TI 03:02 <+JoeYoung> Really. 03:02 <+JoeYoung> o_O 03:03 < incubus> it will be a matter of time before they say something to the people who run BOINC 03:03 < TheStorm> they just started flinging DCMA's and C&D's at people not really understanding the setup 03:03 <+JoeYoung> Maybe they already did? 03:03 <+JoeYoung> :/ 03:03 < BrandonW> Look at the main page for it, it says nothing about factoring RSA public keys for copyright circumvention. 03:03 < BrandonW> We're just factoring numbers. 03:03 < BrandonW> And those numbers just so happen to be significant. 03:04 < chronomex> but they're just numbers! 03:04 < BrandonW> TI might be waiting for the right angle of attack. 03:04 * JoeYoung really types smiley faces just to force the client to update when it feels like being a dick, which is all the time. :P 03:04 < incubus> w00t it's running now 03:04 < BrandonW> Are you on a V200 job? 03:04 < incubus> JoeYoung, try going to Advanced, Do everything below and including Run CPU Benchmarks 03:04 <+JoeYoung> :/ 03:04 < incubus> oh no wonder, it's processing the 89 stuff 03:05 <+JoeYoung> Yeah, I will later. 03:05 < incubus> BrandonW, fa89 03:05 < incubus> JoeYoung, probably won't help, I still can't process the 73 stuff 03:05 < BrandonW> Those errors started showing up on my first PC, too, for the 73 OS key. 03:05 < BrandonW> They broke something. 03:05 < BrandonW> They'll fix it in the morning. 03:05 < incubus> yup 03:05 < incubus> :D 03:05 < incubus> at least I got boinc working again on this PC, it was working on my other 2 03:06 < incubus> we need to do as much computation as we can, before TI shuts all this down 03:06 < BrandonW> Yes, and I'm going to reach out to them tonight about how to do the final processing. 03:06 < incubus> nice 03:06 <+JoeYoung> cmon 03:06 < incubus> (Don't they already know what they are doing?) 03:06 < BrandonW> Because I'd hate to have tens of gigabytes of data ready to be processed and it gets shut down before we can get to it. 03:06 <+JoeYoung> :/ 03:06 <+JoeYoung> ok fucking xchat. 03:07 <+JoeYoung> time for a reboot 03:07 -!- JoeYoung [~Joe@c-98-200-24-14.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:07 < BrandonW> The distributed part is sieving (phase 2). 03:07 -!- Mwyann [~Mwy@88-123-68-18.rev.libertysurf.net] has joined #tcpa 03:07 < BrandonW> Phase 3 has to be done on a single PC. 03:07 < incubus> yes 03:07 < BrandonW> And takes days. 03:07 < incubus> the final part is the lin algebra 03:07 < BrandonW> The 73 app key is one such key which is ready to go. 03:07 < BrandonW> I want to start on it. 03:07 < incubus> ah ok 03:07 -!- JoeYoung [~Joe@c-98-200-24-14.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 03:07 < BrandonW> If they're not already. 03:07 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v JoeYoung] by efneTI81, efneTI86, SnowCrash 03:07 < BrandonW> I want to get in on it before anything happens. 03:07 < BrandonW> Because that's the most important key to us. 03:08 < incubus> you can't sign 73 apps at all? 03:08 < BrandonW> No! 03:08 < BrandonW> Never have been able to. 03:08 < incubus> holy shit 03:08 < BrandonW> TI has to do it for you. 03:08 < incubus> that is the motherload 03:09 < BrandonW> Free73 allows it, just like Free83P allows OSes. 03:09 < BrandonW> But we need a better way. 03:10 < incubus> How in your mind does breaking the 73 app key not infringe on the rights of TI? 03:10 <+i_c-Y> i dont think he cares if it is or not 03:10 < incubus> Well I certainly don't 03:10 < incubus> I mean, at all 03:10 < BrandonW> I couldn't care less what TI wants. 03:11 < incubus> :D 03:11 < BrandonW> There is no good reason not to release the 73 key. 03:11 < BrandonW> We have the 83+ key... 03:11 < BrandonW> Why not the 73? 03:11 < BrandonW> It's a calculator used LESS than the 83+. 03:11 < BrandonW> I truly believe laziness is the reason why they haven't. 03:11 < incubus> probably 03:11 < BrandonW> Because they'd have to come up with a 73 SDK and stuff. 03:11 < BrandonW> A better one, anyway. 03:12 < incubus> Are TI-83+ apps already being released, signed with the newly found key? 03:12 < BrandonW> We've always had the 83+ app key. 03:12 < BrandonW> Well not always, TI gave it to us shortly after its release. 03:12 < incubus> ugh I keep forgetting they released it 03:12 < BrandonW> The 68k community doesn't have any app keys as I understand it. 03:13 < BrandonW> That's bullshit. 03:13 < BrandonW> We should be able to write apps. 03:13 < BrandonW> On everything. 03:13 < TheStorm> agreed 03:13 < incubus> what was the latest 68k key released? 03:13 < BrandonW> The 89 OS key. 03:13 * incubus looks at the logs 03:13 < incubus> k OS 03:13 < incubus> has the is the 89 App key being worked on? 03:14 -!- Netsplit ircd.he.net <-> irc.vel.net quits: _Digital, HelDragon, TD-Linux 03:14 < BrandonW> It's being worked on. 03:14 <+JoeYoung> I just put a shitton of DS games on Ebay, if anyone's interested. 03:14 < incubus> gret 03:14 < incubus> great* 03:14 < BrandonW> The people in charge of the project now are all 68k users, those keys take priority for them. 03:14 < BrandonW> Which is why I'm trying to sneak in this 73 app key. 03:15 < incubus> lol 03:15 < chronomex> BrandonW: hmmm, the boot code does usb, maybe I'll work on that instead 03:15 < chronomex> the boot code is 64kbytes at the beginning of flash 03:15 < chronomex> small and self-contained 03:16 < chronomex> thoughts? 03:16 < incubus> BrandonW, what about the Nspire? 03:16 < BrandonW> It's sometimes good to look at that, especially on the 84+/SE because the boot code can't use interrupts (which have USB crap sprinkled all over it), so it can be more straightforward. 03:16 < chronomex> aye 03:16 < BrandonW> We know nothing about the Nspire, this is completely unrelated and unhelpful. 03:16 < incubus> ?? I'm confused, you hate the Nspire? 03:17 < BrandonW> I do hate the Nspire, and this distributed computing project can't help with it at all. 03:17 < incubus> does it 'do' anything extraordinary? 03:17 < BrandonW> No, it's crap. 03:18 < incubus> but.... multi windows system?! :D 03:18 < sir_lewk> how do community 68k apps exist if we don't have the signing keys for them? 03:18 < sir_lewk> stuff like commandpost or ourworld? 03:18 < incubus> exploit? :P 03:18 -!- champigno [~p@c-76-19-26-145.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 03:19 < BrandonW> sir_lewk, TI signed them for us. 03:19 < sir_lewk> aah 03:19 < BrandonW> That's their preference, they have to sign stuff for us. 03:19 < BrandonW> And approve and review it and all. 03:19 < sir_lewk> huh 03:19 < BrandonW> And of course would never approve any OS. 03:19 < sir_lewk> right 03:19 < TheStorm> to prevent another Drugwars issue 03:19 < sir_lewk> how did stuff like basicbuilder work on the z80's then? 03:19 < BrandonW> And to prevent us from putting some epic exploit in one. 03:20 < champigno> hello. I got a reply from jim babcock and I thought I'd report in. 03:20 < sir_lewk> oh, the calcrogue guy? 03:20 < BrandonW> BasicBuilder is nothing but a PC program to embed calculator programs into a Flash application and sign it. 03:20 < champigno> he told me to take out a battery, hold (-) and ), and replace the battery. 03:20 < incubus> BrandonW, would you be willing to sit down with Herbert W. Foster? :) 03:20 < BrandonW> Of course. 03:20 < BrandonW> But he wouldn't be with me. 03:21 < champigno> that ended up working; no more errors now. 03:21 < sir_lewk> champigno: yeah, that's the standard reset thing 03:21 < champigno> thanks for the help everyone. especially chronomex. 03:21 < sir_lewk> has Jim Babcock done anything other than calcrogue? 03:22 < BrandonW> Herbie's showing his ignorance by slapping everyone with DMCA notices. 03:22 -!- Netsplit over, joins: HelDragon, TD-Linux, _Digital 03:22 < sir_lewk> <3 that game so hard 03:22 < champigno> I can't get past the third level. :3 03:22 < sir_lewk> I beat it once as a fighter and once as a necro, it just takes practice :) 03:23 < sir_lewk> I spent my last two or three years in highschool playing that game :) 03:23 < TheStorm> Is Herbert the Head TI-Calc guy? 03:23 < incubus> no 03:23 < BrandonW> He's the manager of business services or something. 03:23 < TheStorm> Ahh ok 03:23 < BrandonW> He knows nothing of technical stuff. 03:23 -!- Netsplit west.us.hub <-> irc.vel.net quits: _Digital, HelDragon, TD-Linux 03:23 < BrandonW> Which you can tell by reading my notice. 03:23 < sir_lewk> if you like calcrogue then there are tons of PC roguelikes out there you might like too 03:24 < incubus> I like how BrandonW schools him on the calculator functionality :) 03:24 < sir_lewk> BrandonW: probably knows more about those calcs than any person at TI 03:25 < sir_lewk> whooops 03:25 < sir_lewk> s/probably// 03:25 < chronomex> champigno: hah, I totally forgot about minus-closeparen 03:25 < chronomex> :\ 03:25 < DrDnar> ex (sp), hl: Would I get the value of hl left on the stack by poping again? 03:25 -!- Netsplit over, joins: HelDragon, TD-Linux, _Digital 03:25 < BrandonW> I don't follow what you're asking, DrDnar. 03:25 < DrDnar> Would push hl / ex (sp), hl leave hl unchanged? 03:26 < champigno> I've only played necros but maybe I should try something easier first. 03:26 < BrandonW> Yes. 03:26 < sir_lewk> fighter is pretty easy to start with 03:26 < sir_lewk> if you can make it past the first five levels, then up the lich's tower, then necro is definetly the strongest class though 03:27 < sir_lewk> after killing the lich you can become a lich yourself (*awesome* health regen, though all NPCs hate you) 03:28 < champigno> doesn't health regen happen anyway? 03:28 < sir_lewk> yeah, but liches health regen really really fast 03:28 < chronomex> is this wow? 03:28 < sir_lewk> almost impossible to kill, unless you get pinned down by dragons and giant slugs 03:29 < sir_lewk> no, calcrogue (for the 68k's) 03:29 < sir_lewk> http://calcrogue.jimrandomh.org/info.php 03:29 < chronomex> oh 03:29 < chronomex> I was about to kick you 03:29 < TheStorm> time for bed, and to start boinc on this comp again. 03:29 < chronomex> for wowery 03:29 < champigno> :D 03:29 -!- mode/#tcpa [+o chronomex] by efneTI86 03:29 < sir_lewk> lol 03:29 <+JoeYoung> wow 03:29 <+JoeYoung> omnimaga got some decent BASIC platformers for their contest. 03:30 < TheStorm> I haven't gone back since the last time he banned me. 03:31 < champigno> oh god I haven't been to omnimaga for years. 03:31 < BrandonW> Good man. 03:31 <@chronomex> heh 03:32 <+i_c-Y> omnimaga loves me. maybe i should go and say hello 03:32 < TheStorm> I got tired of dealling with his emoness though it is the best place for updates on Calc84's projects 03:32 < champigno> to be honest, all I can associate with omnimaga are beta rpg's. 03:33 < champigno> anywho, I'm going to have a cigarette and go to bed. good night. 03:33 < sir_lewk> all I can associate him with is "JUST FUCKIN STOP" 03:33 < DrDnar> Pssst, all novice coders . . . RPGs need a plot to actually be good. 03:33 < champigno> heh. 03:33 -!- champigno [~p@c-76-19-26-145.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [it's lights out for this lightweight.] 03:34 < TheStorm> DrDnar, DJ wasn't too bad at that part. 03:34 < DrDnar> I knew some people in high school who were like, "I'm gonna write an RPG!" 03:34 < DrDnar> Irked me. 03:35 < BrandonW> When I was a freshman in college, I met people like that. 03:35 < BrandonW> It made me laugh on the inside. 03:35 < DrDnar> I was (am) good a coding, so I never worried about HOW to do it; I just thought, "I could never come up with a good plot," and never did it. 03:35 < TheStorm> yeah, Dying eye's is ok there also, but there really isn't much for the z80's in taht area 03:36 < DrDnar> Desolate. Not really much of a plot, but interesting diversion. 03:36 < DrDnar> Sorta an RPG. 03:36 < sir_lewk> I played one that was pretty good on the 83+, forget what it was called 03:36 < TheStorm> and awesome greyscale 03:36 < sir_lewk> kinda zelda-y graphics 03:36 < DrDnar> yeah 03:37 < TheStorm> Marq Super Kid quest 03:37 < sir_lewk> never got far into that one 03:37 <+i_c-Y> BOGOTA — President Alvaro Uribe has contracted H1N1 flu and officials are contacting other South American governments whose leaders attended a summit last week with the Colombian leader, authorities said Sunday. 03:40 <+JoeYoung> I beat Marg Super Kid Quest 03:40 <+JoeYoung> It was fun at the time 03:41 <+JoeYoung> I remember Pokemon vs Digimon too. 03:42 -!- patori [patori@adsl-99-18-42-132.dsl.toldoh.sbcglobal.net] has joined #tcpa 03:43 < DrDnar> "P/V is reset if BC becomes zero. Reset otherwise." 03:43 < DrDnar> Yet another error in LAI28D. 03:44 <@chronomex> ugh, an entire range of undocumented IO regions 03:44 < DrDnar> ? 03:44 <@chronomex> 0x710000-0x710100 03:44 < DrDnar> 89 stuff? 03:44 <@chronomex> yeah 03:44 <@chronomex> 68k 03:44 <@chronomex> 89Ti to be exact 03:44 < DrDnar> You and your actually decent hardware. 03:44 <@chronomex> heh 03:45 <@chronomex> I pay the price! 03:45 < BrandonW> Pretty much every port from 3Ah to 0AFh is for USB on the 84+/SE. 03:45 < BrandonW> That's a _LOT_ of undocumented ports. 03:45 <@chronomex> nice 03:45 <@chronomex> 3A to AF, I'll have to look for those 03:45 < BrandonW> There are dozens I don't have the slightest idea on. 03:45 < DrDnar> So is P/V set or reset in ldi when BC becomes 0? 03:45 <@chronomex> I'm pretty sure they used the same Verilog or something on both machines 03:45 < BrandonW> Don't remember, look in a debugger. 03:46 < BrandonW> I consider this an opportunity to learn about the 84+/SE, too. 03:46 < BrandonW> I want to hear all the details. 03:46 < BrandonW> You might have code that obviously explains one port that I have no clue about. 03:46 < DrDnar> P flag =1 if after LDI BC is not equal to 0, else P = 0 03:46 -!- patori [patori@adsl-99-18-42-132.dsl.toldoh.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Client Quit] 03:47 -!- _Auron_ [~DarkAuron@adsl-99-147-84-147.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #tcpa 03:47 < efneTI92> [_Auron_] We called it Sin. 03:47 -!- mode/#tcpa [+o _Auron_] by efneTI86 03:57 <@chronomex> Thou shalt not jump to Odd Addresses 03:58 -!- Randomist [~winterven@216.117.120.220] has joined #tcpa 03:58 < efneTI92> [Randomist] http://wintervenom.mine.nu 03:59 * Randomist waves. 03:59 * Randomist brings another boredom-spawn: http://wintervenom.brandonw.net/Scott%20Garrett%20-%20Fucking%20Failure%20(WIP1).ogg 04:00 < Randomist> (Needs work.) 04:00 <@chronomex> Randomist: you need things to do 04:04 < BrandonW> I fear for him, really. 04:05 <@chronomex> me too, I think 04:05 <+i_c-Y> fear for him? Randomist - you need a bit more work to get them to fear you/. 04:06 < BrandonW> I sent off the 010A and date stamp public keys. 04:07 < BrandonW> And offered help on the 0102 linear algebra. 04:07 <@chronomex> what do you mean "sent off"? 04:07 < BrandonW> I e-mailed it to them. 04:07 <@chronomex> oh, submitted to BOINC? 04:07 < BrandonW> They didn't have it. 04:07 < BrandonW> Yes. 04:07 <@chronomex> aye 04:07 < DrDnar> So we can finally put real date stamps in our apps? 04:07 -!- sir_lewk_ [~jlg95@tux64-02.cs.drexel.edu] has joined #tcpa 04:07 < efneTI92> [sir_lewk_] http://www.cs.drexel.edu/~jlg95 I have much DATA in VELOCIRAPTORS AND PHILOSOPH 04:09 -!- Netsplit hub.efnet.us <-> irc.shoutcast.com quits: blankie, Tribal, sir_lewk 04:10 < BrandonW> DrDnar, yes. 04:10 < DrDnar> I . . . I almost care! 04:10 < Randomist> sir_lewk_: EFNet can't handle your DATA. 04:10 < BrandonW> It's for certificate updates, too. 04:11 < DrDnar> That's more interesting. 04:11 < BrandonW> I think we ought to overwrite the calculator public key with something common and do further certificate updates that way. 04:11 < BrandonW> Far more stable. 04:11 -!- pen [~myname@d207-6-186-113.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #tcpa 04:12 <@chronomex> yeah 04:17 < BrandonW> Ben said I should really preserve it, so I don't know. 04:17 < BrandonW> He has magic knowledge about the certificate that I'm not really sure where it comes from. 04:18 <@chronomex> I wish I had magic knowledge 04:18 <@chronomex> that would make my life easier 04:20 < DrDnar> There exists one who knows more? 04:20 < DrDnar> Why don't we see Ben around here anyway? 04:20 < BrandonW> I'm not sure if it's more per se. 04:21 < BrandonW> I think we have differing opinions on how important some things are. 04:21 < BrandonW> Ben always keeps to himself. 04:21 < DrDnar> For example, you made a new key and he cracked the existing one. 04:21 < BrandonW> We're both in agreement his method is obviously better. 04:22 < DrDnar> Your's didn't get the attention of TI. 04:22 < DrDnar> His is easier for users, yes. 04:22 < BrandonW> Mine should've gotten that kind of attention. 04:23 < BrandonW> I can't fathom why they would stay silent over a certificate patch. 04:23 < DrDnar> Should've, but didn't. 04:23 < DrDnar> Like we've pointed out, they don't REALLY know what we're up to. 04:23 < BrandonW> The same method can be used to kill the 04 and 0A keys. 04:23 < BrandonW> And BRICK calculators. 04:24 < DrDnar> How bricked? 04:24 <@chronomex> what does it mean to me and the C compiler to compare two ints and test on the borrow-happened bit? 04:24 <+JoeYoung> lego bricked 04:24 < DrDnar> IIRC, you have a boot code exploit that lets you restore the key, right? 04:24 < BrandonW> Yes. 04:25 < BrandonW> Overriding the 04 and 0A keys in and of themselves don't brick it. 04:25 < BrandonW> It just won't validate. 04:25 <@chronomex> expert assembly programmers, someone please assist me? 04:25 < DrDnar> So it brick them to the point that only BrandonW can fix it. 04:25 < BrandonW> The latest brick is truly something only I can fix. 04:25 <@chronomex> :( 04:25 < BrandonW> But I did upload the program. 04:26 < BrandonW> So anyone with a second calculator and an I/O cable can use it. 04:26 <@chronomex> BrandonW: what use is testing on the carry bit for a compare? 04:26 < BrandonW> Out of context, I have on idea. In z80, it's < or >. 04:26 < BrandonW> no* 04:26 < sir_lewk_> do you have the technology to make a brick even you cannot unbrick? 04:27 < BrandonW> I've gotten as close as I can get to that. 04:27 <@chronomex> BrandonW: aye, but the 68k has a greater- and lesser-than compare as well 04:27 <+JoeYoung> sir_lewk_: dude, I have that technology 04:27 < DrDnar> Yeah, you just put the unit in a microwave for three seconds. Un-unbrickable. 04:27 < sir_lewk_> not a hammer :P 04:27 < BrandonW> Are you trying to understand TI's USB code? Because they do all sorts of ridiculous nonsensical things in the 84+/SE OS which contradicts other OS code. 04:27 <@chronomex> yeah 04:27 <@chronomex> I am 04:27 <+JoeYoung> :/ 04:28 <@chronomex> it's probably because it was added by someone else :P 04:28 <+JoeYoung> sir_lewk_: http://www.psychologytoday.com/files/u107/Brick.jpg 04:28 < BrandonW> Prepare to lose your mind from the insanity that is direct USB code. 04:28 < BrandonW> Yeah, it was obviously written by someone else. 04:28 < BrandonW> Someone much, much dumber. 04:28 <+JoeYoung> :D 04:28 <@chronomex> I am prepared :\ 04:28 <@chronomex> an intern? 04:28 < BrandonW> Perhaps. 04:28 <@chronomex> we just need to find the bugger 04:28 < BrandonW> Probably the same person that designed the awful hardware interface. 04:28 <@chronomex> lol 04:29 < sir_lewk_> lol, where would TI find an intern that knew z80 well enough to implement USB? 04:29 <@chronomex> #tcpa? 04:29 <@chronomex> no 04:29 <@chronomex> NO 04:29 <@chronomex> OMNIMAGA 04:29 < sir_lewk_> IS HE AMONG US? :O 04:29 < BrandonW> sir_lewk_, I've still yet to brick it in a way that I can't fix. I did brick it in a way that took weeks to come up with an exploit to unbrick it, but it was still possible. Barely. 04:29 < DrDnar> BrandonW is a master bricker. 04:29 < sir_lewk_> my bet is it was KLuuppo. he hasn't talked recently 04:30 < sir_lewk_> or ever? 04:30 <@chronomex> hh 04:30 <@chronomex> heh 04:30 < BrandonW> If you could somehow corrupt the certificate in such a way that it tried to traverse it and failed before it received a link packet, that would be a permanent brick. 04:30 < BrandonW> But I don't think the boot code is written in a way to make that possible. 04:30 <+JoeYoung> !seen KLuuppo 04:30 <@efneTI86> JoeYoung, KLuuppo is right here! 04:30 <+JoeYoung> :/ 04:30 <+JoeYoung> ... 04:30 <+JoeYoung> don't you tell me the last time he said something? 04:30 * BrandonW checks OS disassemblies for such a possibility. 04:31 <+JoeYoung> :/ 04:31 < BrandonW> boot code disassemblies* 04:31 <+JoeYoung> KLuuppo is a TISpy 04:31 <+JoeYoung> :/ 04:32 <+JoeYoung> :/ 04:32 <+JoeYoung> :/ 04:32 <@chronomex> DIRTY FINNS 04:32 <+JoeYoung> that face just looks od in this font 04:32 -!- DarkLord_ [~DarkLord@96-42-27-74.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has quit [Quit: ~ Trillian Astra - www.trillian.im ~] 04:32 <+JoeYoung> er 04:33 <+JoeYoung> ODD 04:33 < sir_lewk_> :\ 04:33 <+JoeYoung> anyway I'm going. it's been fun, guys, but I got schools 04:33 <+JoeYoung> in the morning 04:33 <+JoeYoung> not now 04:33 <+JoeYoung> >_> 04:33 <+i_c-Y> lol you go to school 04:33 <+JoeYoung> by 04:33 <+JoeYoung> bye 04:33 <@chronomex> cya JoeYoung 04:34 <+JoeYoung> I go to scool cause I cant spell 04:34 <+i_c-Y> later 04:34 <@chronomex> u need to lern to spel 04:34 < BrandonW> ...I think... 04:34 < sir_lewk_> ya, me too, later dudettes 04:34 -!- JoeYoung [~Joe@c-98-200-24-14.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:34 < BrandonW> ...it might be possible... 04:34 < BrandonW> ...to permanently brick it. 04:34 <@chronomex> omigawd 04:34 < sir_lewk_> D: 04:34 < sir_lewk_> DONT TRY IT 04:34 < BrandonW> Hell no I'm not trying it. 04:34 < BrandonW> I'll try it on a Wal-Mart calculator. 04:34 <+i_c-Y> what TI giveth, BrandonW taketh 04:34 < sir_lewk_> burn that knowledge out of your brain 04:34 < sir_lewk_> lol 04:35 < DrDnar> Wal-Mart calculator? One you're going to return to Wal-Mart? 04:35 < BrandonW> Yes. 04:35 < j-b-r> It's easy to permanently brick a calculator Just plug the other end of the link cable directly into the power outlet 04:35 < j-b-r> Actually, taht might not work... 04:35 < j-b-r> And there should be a punctuation mark before that capital J 04:35 < BrandonW> We're talking maybe 5 lines to Free83P to make it a permanent brick. 04:36 < j-b-r> But I got stung by a wasp or something on my finger, so and it happens to be the finger I hit most of the punctuation keys with 04:36 < j-b-r> And it is all swollen up so it is rather inaccurate today 04:36 <@chronomex> TYPE BETTER 04:36 <@chronomex> INSECTS ARE NO EXCUSE 04:36 <@chronomex> Oh my. 04:36 <@chronomex> I must be losing it already. 04:37 < Randomist> You won't let him get away with not typing properly, but Digital does it all the time. :P 04:37 < j-b-r> Well technically my excuse was a reaction to having poison injected into my index finger... 04:37 <@chronomex> not to mention low-lifes like chronomex 04:38 < BrandonW> Okay, here's the thing. The unbricker works by doing two things, exploiting the fact that the boot code won't relock Flash back if you send it a certain packet, and a buffer overflow exploit with a link packet. The second will always work, but I think I can stop the first one from working. 04:38 < BrandonW> By stopping the first one, that means there's no way to unlock Flash. 04:38 < BrandonW> And therefore no way to erase the corrupted certificate. 04:38 < BrandonW> So IF there's no other way to trigger a Flash unlock exploit, it's a permanent brick. 04:38 < BrandonW> But there may still be. 04:38 < BrandonW> I'm not sure. 04:38 < sir_lewk_> there is a security guard talking very loudly outside my window with one of his security guard buddies 04:38 < BrandonW> I looked for one and couldn't find one, except for that one exploit. 04:38 < sir_lewk_> I think I need a bb-gun 04:39 < BrandonW> So it's possible. 04:39 < sir_lewk_> that scares me 04:40 < BrandonW> I'm relatively confident that you can always trigger a buffer overflow exploit which lets you execute code. 04:40 < BrandonW> It's just a matter of figuring out what to do from there. 04:42 < sir_lewk_> gotcha 04:42 < BrandonW> There's the old _getSerial exploit, but that requires an OS. 04:43 < sir_lewk_> the reason I asked this is actually because I wanted an answer to that age old "unmovable object vs the unstoppable force" question ;D 04:44 < BrandonW> If there's a place in the boot code that you could jump to which would erase even the inactive certificate sector, I think that would be enough to make the unbricker start working again. 04:44 < BrandonW> But I'm not sure such a place exitss. 04:44 < BrandonW> exists.* 04:45 < DrDnar> BrandonW is in a brick/unbrick war with himself. 04:45 <@chronomex> BrandonW: what USB port ranges do you have info for on z80? 04:45 < DrDnar> check wikiti 04:45 < BrandonW> I'll pastebin my text documents. 04:45 <@chronomex> k 04:45 <@chronomex> you should wikiti them :) 04:45 < BrandonW> Hey, if you want to take all day to do it, have at it. :) 04:46 < BrandonW> I treat Dan's 84+ USB WikiTI page as gospel. 04:46 < BrandonW> I wouldn't want to disturb it. 04:46 < BrandonW> With my random guesses. 04:46 <@chronomex> what's the link to that? 04:46 < BrandonW> http://wikiti.brandonw.net/ 04:46 <@chronomex> no, the page 04:46 < BrandonW> Calculator Documentation, General OS Documentation or something. 04:47 < DrDnar> There's a hierarchy of respect amongst the older coders in the TI community. 04:47 < BrandonW> http://pastebin.com/m71526e30 04:48 -!- i_c-Y [~Icy@pool-96-242-202-34.nwrknj.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:48 < DrDnar> Not right: 40h-4Fh: unknown. 04:48 < BrandonW> What that port range signifies is unknown. 04:48 < BrandonW> TI has it split up into ranges. 04:49 < DrDnar> 40--48h is the clock. Unless the clock is used during USB. 04:49 < sir_lewk_> within that range lies the port that is the meaning of life 04:49 < sir_lewk_> clearly TI has interfaced with the universe 04:50 <@chronomex> ifconfig uni0 down 04:51 < BrandonW> I think they're core on/off/reset USB ports. 04:51 < BrandonW> Important to flushing out buffers or starting/ending intialization or something. 04:51 < DrDnar> 49-50h? 04:51 < BrandonW> Yes. 04:51 < TD-Linux> chronomex, we still year you 04:51 < TD-Linux> chronomex, also your device naming is epic 04:51 <@chronomex> heh 04:52 <@chronomex> it was a reaction to sir_lewk_'s comment 04:52 < BrandonW> The OS occasionally does use ports 4Ch/4Dh for determining whether it should try the USB port. 04:52 -!- Barrett [~Barrett@75-165-243-181.slkc.qwest.net] has quit [Leaving] 04:52 < BrandonW> I have no clue what it means even then. 04:52 < BrandonW> Bits 4, 5, and 6 are significant I think. 04:53 < BrandonW> A little piece of me thinks the controller is smart enough to interface to certain devices differently. 04:53 < BrandonW> There are a couple of things the OS does for Vernier EasyData that I've never seen anywhere else. 04:53 < DrDnar> So we wrote an MSD driver and we're not sure why it works? 04:53 < BrandonW> Yes. It's pure magic. 04:53 < BrandonW> Praise Dan for coming up with something that halfway works. 04:53 < BrandonW> To this day he's still blown away that a mouse and keyboard work. 04:54 < BrandonW> A flash drive, however, has the same basic flow that the calculator does. 04:54 < BrandonW> The descriptors and such are just different. 04:54 -!- Merthsoft [~Shaun@140.141.29.184] has joined #tcpa 04:54 < BrandonW> We have a lot of example code on how to be a basic device with two bulk endpoints, because that's how the calculator USB devices function. 04:55 < BrandonW> The further removed you get from that, the less we know. 04:56 < DrDnar> If I knew anything about USB, I might be interested. 04:56 < BrandonW> This may be why we have no 68k USB host driver. :) 04:56 <@chronomex> hm? 04:56 < DrDnar> There's no 68K Dan. 04:56 <@chronomex> o 04:56 <@chronomex> I'm working on that 04:56 < BrandonW> I think a hardware USB sniffer and reading the low-level parts of the USB documentation would go a long way towards understanding some of this magic. 04:57 <@chronomex> Johan Eilert was pretty badass but he's done now 04:57 <@chronomex> BrandonW: hm, yes 04:57 < BrandonW> I've come close to getting the Beagle a time or two. 04:57 < BrandonW> $400. 04:57 <@chronomex> mmm 04:58 < DrDnar> Thanks to the Beagle analyzer's low cost, every engineer can have his or her own. That means you do not have to schedule time to share your analyzer with other developers. Bottom line, your company saves time, effort and money. 04:59 <@chronomex> I'm pretty convinced that z80 usb == 68k usb 04:59 <@chronomex> like about 85% 05:01 < DrDnar> I'll be honest, if I got a 68K calc I drop Z80 like nuclear waste. 05:02 <@chronomex> really? 05:02 <@chronomex> are you good with reverse-engineering? 05:03 < DrDnar> What? You'd send me one? 05:03 <@chronomex> maybe 05:03 < DrDnar> No, not really. 05:04 < BrandonW> chronomex, do you have the usb8x source? It might be helpful to look at some of the API routines. 05:04 < BrandonW> And see what ports they check and all. 05:04 < BrandonW> I say shamelessly rip from it and adapt as necessary. 05:04 <@chronomex> I don't have it, no 05:04 < BrandonW> It's an SVN repository at SourceForge. 05:04 <@chronomex> I'm still working just fine thank you 05:04 <@chronomex> maybe tomorrow 05:04 <@chronomex> this week I also have to move house 05:04 < BrandonW> I'm just saying, if it's really that similar. 05:04 <@chronomex> so who knows what I'll get around to 05:05 <@chronomex> well, so far _all_ the ports you find are matching up with things that are getting used 05:08 < DrDnar> appSearchPage sounds like a completely safe address to muck about with 05:08 < BrandonW> I can't find another exploit, so yes, I think it actually is possible to completely brick a calculator through software only. 05:08 < BrandonW> It is sometimes. 05:09 < DrDnar> I'd assume it's only used if you're running an application. 05:09 < BrandonW> It's used everywhere you might want to look up an application. 05:09 < BrandonW> Or mess with app space. 05:10 < DrDnar> basic_start should be reset every time you start and BASIC program, so should be safe if you're using BASIC. 05:11 < BrandonW> That gets used a lot in the parser, you don't want to mess with that. 05:13 <+glk> Solar cells wear out the sun. 05:13 < DrDnar> What is asm_ram? The size of the running program? 05:13 < BrandonW> A few bytes of free RAM to do whatever you want with. 05:13 < BrandonW> asm_size I think contains that. 05:14 < BrandonW> asm_prgm_size* 05:14 <@_Auron_> by now I think if I came back to z80 coding I could do some wicked stuff in comparison to my old days. 05:14 < DrDnar> Perfect. 05:16 -!- Merthsoft [~Shaun@140.141.29.184] has quit [Ping timeout: 384 seconds] 05:23 -!- Randomis1 [~winterven@216.117.120.28] has joined #tcpa 05:23 < efneTI92> [Randomis1] http://wintervenom.mine.nu 05:24 < BrandonW> I knew I wasn't sleeping tonight, but I just have too much to do for work and I can't work effectively over VPN, so I'm going to have to go in now. 05:24 < BrandonW> And hope I get through today. 05:25 < DrDnar> Go in what? 05:25 -!- Randomist [~winterven@216.117.120.220] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:25 -!- Randomis1 is now known as Randomist 05:26 < BrandonW> To work. 05:26 < DrDnar> You work in a call center at night? 05:26 <+bsparks> I sleep! 05:27 < BrandonW> Yeah, lots of applications to write and crazy deadlines. 05:27 < DrDnar> Okay . . . 05:27 <@_Auron_> at least you have a job :/ 05:28 < BrandonW> Yeah, not complaining. 05:29 <+bsparks> hmm, I like my iPod theme :) 05:29 <+bsparks> it's not _mine_ per-se, but it's nice 05:38 -!- leofox [leofox@leofox.student.utwente.nl] has joined #tcpa 05:38 < efneTI92> [leofox] All we do in hell is play DDR! 05:39 < DrDnar> I speant way too long on this: http://pastebin.com/d7b7368b9 05:41 < leofox> pfft it has to disable interrupts 05:41 < leofox> what does it even do 05:41 < DrDnar> It reads data from a flash sector buffered in extended RAM to normal RAM. The sector has to be buffered because I'm garbage collecting it. 05:43 < leofox> extended RAM 05:43 < leofox> I dont my think my calculator even has that 05:43 < DrDnar> Pages 82h--87h. 05:43 < leofox> yes I know your fancypants calcs have more RAM 05:44 < leofox> so calculator programming has finally moved to 83+SE/84+ only stuff? 05:44 < DrDnar> Well our fancypants calcs' flash chips are rated for 100,000 write/erase cycles, unlike the Ti-83+'s, which are rated for 1 million. 05:44 <+glk> I defend the TI-89T calc 05:45 < DrDnar> Not that it really matters. 05:45 < leofox> DrDnar you're going to write to the 83+'s flash a lot more 05:45 < leofox> because there's so little there 05:45 < DrDnar> Perhaps. 05:45 < DrDnar> The RAM-based garbage-collector speed up garbage collection and reduce wear. 05:46 < DrDnar> will^ 05:46 < DrDnar> Should double the speed. 05:46 < DrDnar> I calculated that, in theory, a full garbage collect on an SE could take up to 20 minutes. 05:47 < leofox> my calculator used to garbage collect about 6 times a day 05:47 < leofox> it was terrible 05:47 < DrDnar> Disable write-back in MirageOS. 05:47 < leofox> i couldnt 05:47 <@_Auron_> mine garbage collected like once every 2-3 months 05:47 <@chronomex> well 05:47 <@chronomex> I'm headed home 05:47 < leofox> I played games that needed to save a lot 05:47 <@chronomex> night #tcpa 05:47 < leofox> night? 05:47 < leofox> I just woke up 05:47 <@chronomex> it's 22:47 05:47 < leofox> goddamnit 05:48 < DrDnar> Some of us live on the east coast. 05:48 < leofox> its 7:48 here 05:48 < leofox> I hate being up early 05:48 < DrDnar> Where are you? Europe? 05:48 <@chronomex> DrDnar: he's in amsterdam, I'm in Seattle 05:49 < leofox> Enschede but you're close enough 05:49 < leofox> Amsterdam is only 200km away 05:50 < DrDnar> Wikipedia's picuture of Amsterdam made me happy. I'm up way too late. 05:50 < leofox> Amsterdam always makes me happy 06:03 < BrandonW> "your fancypants calcs"? What calculator do you have? 06:04 <+glk> I defend the TI-89T against all enemies, 06:04 < DrDnar> The TI-83+SE/84s are fancypants. 06:04 < BrandonW> And what isn't? 06:04 < DrDnar> The TI-83+, apparently. 06:05 < BrandonW> I both love and hate the 83+. 06:05 < DrDnar> So if I'm going to write a garbage collector, I'd better make sure it can correctly read and write all variables in the archive . . . 06:05 < BrandonW> I try my best to support it when I can. 06:05 < BrandonW> One could argue that the 83+ doesn't need a better garbage collector. 06:05 < BrandonW> So you can use the extra RAM pages to your heart's content. 06:06 < DrDnar> I might just retrofit some of this code back into my undeleter so it can support all types of variables. 06:06 < BrandonW> Have you read the OS's garbage collect routine? 06:06 < DrDnar> I don't suppose adding a variable to the VAT manually would be good. 06:07 < DrDnar> I haven't tried, honestly. 06:07 < DrDnar> Where is it? 06:07 < BrandonW> You'd have to dig around for it. 06:07 < DrDnar> It might be a good read in lab. 06:07 < BrandonW> Most direct method would be to dig into the parser and see what it does with the GarbageCollect token. 06:07 < BrandonW> For defragmenting, look at the cxPutAway routine for the Mem Mgmt/Del screen. 06:07 < BrandonW> But presumably you'd find the other when you found one. 06:08 < DrDnar> I know I need to update the VAT and the page/location stored in flash. 06:09 < DrDnar> What's an LCDObj? 06:10 < BrandonW> Where is that? 06:10 < DrDnar> ti83plus.txt 06:10 < DrDnar> LCDObj EQU 12h 06:11 < BrandonW> That...is a good question. 06:11 < BrandonW> Pass it to _createVar and see what happens. 06:12 -!- _Auron|G1 [~Auron-G1@m350436d0.tmodns.net] has joined #tcpa 06:13 <+glk> Coast to Coast is about artificial intelligence now 06:13 <+Netham45> aah 06:13 <+Netham45> my mp3 player is stuck looping foreigner 06:13 < Randomist> glk: Do you still have your radio show? 06:13 <+glk> No 06:14 <+glk> I had a TV and Radio show about 15 years ago 06:15 < BrandonW> Before the ATF hauled you away? 06:15 < BrandonW> Is this archived somewhere? 06:15 <+glk> No 06:15 < DSP_Lord> lies, this is the internet. 06:15 < DSP_Lord> it's somewhere. 06:15 < DSP_Lord> also what was the name of that movie again, glk? 06:16 <+glk> In the Line Of Duty"Ambush at Waco 06:16 <+glk> It is on cable now and then 06:16 < DSP_Lord> glk, the Hollywood star of #tcpa. 06:17 < BrandonW> http://brandonw.net/crap/glk.jpg 06:17 <+glk> I appear 30 minutes into the movie as a drug fiend arrested by the ATF 06:17 < Randomist> Wow. 06:17 < BrandonW> I remember it like it was yesterday. 06:17 < Randomist> My college Internet won't let me access anything in there. 06:17 <+glk> That is me 06:17 < BrandonW> I have the video clip of it, but I screwed up the sound. 06:17 < Randomist> They must be blocking part of your server for some reason. 06:18 < BrandonW> CONSPIRACY 06:18 < BrandonW> There's no doubt warez in /crap/. 06:18 < BrandonW> Maybe that's why. 06:18 <+glk> There is a closeup of me being put ito the van, often missing 06:18 < BrandonW> I remember you sort of hopping up into the van. 06:18 < BrandonW> Is that the close-up? 06:19 <+glk> Yes and the agent is pixilated 06:19 < BrandonW> I like the "ATF AGENT" on the back of that guy's coat. 06:19 <+glk> The VCR tape can be bought 06:19 < BrandonW> The "AGENT" part is so important, you know. 06:20 <+glk> Several friends played ATF agents 06:20 < BrandonW> The ATF agents were extras?! 06:20 <+glk> We were extras 06:21 <+glk> Some were main actors 06:21 < BrandonW> You can see the "WGN" in the corner from where I taped it. 06:21 -!- mobilespa [~mobilespa@d60-65-200-180.col.wideopenwest.com] has joined #tcpa 06:21 <+glk> Dan Lauria was a main actor 06:22 -!- mobilespa is now known as sparkspod 06:22 <+glk> Kent Broadhurst was another main actor 06:22 -!- sparkspod [~mobilespa@d60-65-200-180.col.wideopenwest.com] has quit [Client Quit] 06:22 <+glk> The movie was made before the place burned 06:22 < Randomist> Hm, it might be on BitTorrent. 06:23 < DSP_Lord> lol. 06:23 <+glk> I have visited the ruins of the real place 06:23 * DSP_Lord read Kent Broadhurst as Ken Brockman for a second there 06:23 < DSP_Lord> or whatever that reporter on the Simpsons is named. 06:23 < _Auron|G1> heh 06:24 -!- Geno|mobl [~genoitouc@69.177.26.176] has joined #tcpa 06:24 < BrandonW> Well, it's worth watching for Jeri Ryan. 06:25 < BrandonW> (Seven of Nine) 06:25 < _Auron|G1> lol 06:25 < BrandonW> Susanna Thompson is in the movie too, and oddly enough she placed the Borg Queen in Voyager. 06:25 < BrandonW> Small world. 06:25 -!- Geno|mobl [~genoitouc@69.177.26.176] has quit [Client Quit] 06:25 < BrandonW> She played ONE of the Borg Queens, that is. 06:25 < _Auron|G1> warehouse 13 keeps guest starring actors from eureka 06:26 < DrDnar> So glk was an extra in a movie with Seven of Nine and the Borg Queen? 06:26 < BrandonW> I watched the pilot from Eureka last night. I wasn't impressed. Tell me it gets better. 06:26 < BrandonW> Yes, yes he was. 06:26 < _Auron|G1> badass 06:26 < DrDnar> Syfy needs to save money, maybe. 06:26 < _Auron|G1> BradonW: some eps are good, some are cheesy 06:26 < BrandonW> I'm not sure I even really understood what happened in the pilot. 06:27 < _Auron|G1> it can be a fun show but I stopped caring about it 06:27 < BrandonW> If you're not listening for that one key sentence in the whole episode, you don't know what's going on. 06:27 < _Auron|G1> I like shows with serious plots 06:27 < BrandonW> I don't like shows that make fun of themselves like that. 06:27 < BrandonW> At least Stargate SG-1/Atlantis stay fairly consistent. 06:27 <+glk> Watch Plan 9 from Outer Space 06:27 < BrandonW> They have certain immutable laws about the gate itself, for example. 06:28 < DrDnar> O RLY? 06:28 < _Auron|G1> yeah serious plots or shows with a lot of interesting lore or backstory are good 06:28 < _Auron|G1> I guess it depends on what you like 06:28 < BrandonW> Yeah, like you can't keep the gate open for longer than 38 minutes unless you keep a steady stream of energy flowing through it. 06:29 < BrandonW> Or that the receiving gate can't shut it off. 06:28 < DrDnar> I took screen shots of the code Carter is writing in the episode with the gate virus. 06:29 < BrandonW> Avenger 2.0? That's not the best episode ever. 06:29 < _Auron|G1> my sister watches eureka, warehouse 13, being human, true blood, mad men, and pushing daisies 06:29 < BrandonW> There's some inconsistency in the way the gate works. 06:29 < _Auron|G1> and dr. who 06:29 < DrDnar> IIRC it was C++. 06:29 < BrandonW> I have a hard time buying the automatic updates thing. 06:30 < DrDnar> Carter programs the DHDs in C++. Who knew. 06:30 < BrandonW> You should pay close attention to the Atlantis touchpads they carry around. 06:30 < BrandonW> And their Lantian interface card thing. 06:30 < BrandonW> Lantean*? 06:31 < _Auron|G1> I need to watch BSG 06:31 < DrDnar> The Ancients had their version of Microsoft: Automatic Updates brought down the whole network. 06:31 < BrandonW> It was the crappy security and being able to put in a bogus update. 06:31 < DrDnar> Only the SGC was running third-party code. 06:31 < BrandonW> What are you "updating" really, anyway? I have a hard time buying into the whole stellar drift theory and all. 06:31 < BrandonW> And how that can impact star constellations you use to gate to it. 06:32 < DrDnar> The constellations do change with time. 06:32 < _Auron|G1> expanding universe thing 06:32 < BrandonW> But the symbols never change. 06:32 < DrDnar> But I'd think an internal physics program could keep track of the changes easily enough. 06:33 < DrDnar> Science fiction is usually more fiction than science. 06:33 < _Auron|G1> I like to refer science fiction as fictional science 06:34 < DrDnar> Very good. 06:35 < tr1p1ea> just saw District 9 06:35 <+glk> Have you seen the Movie Things To Come (1936) 06:35 < _Auron|G1> I wonder if I should pull an all-nighter and work on stroids until I go to class 06:36 < tr1p1ea> was a good movie 06:36 < _Auron|G1> actually I don't have to go to class 06:36 < BrandonW> What else is there left to do on Stroids? 06:36 < BrandonW> And are you raking in more money than when you first started? 06:36 < BrandonW> I'm curious. 06:36 < _Auron|G1> redo enemy spawns and add powerups among other things 06:37 < _Auron|G1> make the full version have features that the demo does not 06:38 < _Auron|G1> currently demo is time limited for game runs and that's the only difference 06:39 < _Auron|G1> this extra work will make the game more valuable for my adc2 entry, and entries close at midnight tomorrow 06:39 < DrDnar> stroids? 06:39 < _Auron|G1> my android game 06:39 < DrDnar> for? 06:39 < _Auron|G1> it's like asteroids meets geometry wars 06:40 < _Auron|G1> for android phones 06:40 < _Auron|G1> using trackball + touchscreen for movement and firing 06:40 < BrandonW> Are more people buying the game than day one? 06:40 < BrandonW> game now than day one?* 06:40 < _Auron|G1> no 06:41 < _Auron|G1> on average I used to be getting 2 sales a day 06:41 < _Auron|G1> now it's 1 sale a day on average 06:41 < _Auron|G1> 25th I got 1 sale, 26th I got 3, 27 and 28th none, past two days I got 1 sale each 06:41 < BrandonW> I have yet to see classic Tetris on Android. 06:41 < BrandonW> Make it. 06:42 < _Auron|G1> I thought there were at least 3 tetris games for android 06:42 < BrandonW> Not classic. 06:43 < _Auron|G1> hmm 06:46 < BrandonW> Tetris, Solitaire, and Minesweeper, that's what I do. 06:46 < BrandonW> I must have these. 06:47 < _Auron|G1> well solitaire is the most popular game on the market 06:47 <+glk> Signing off. Any last comments? 06:47 -!- glk [glk@adsl-70-234-96-129.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net] has quit [http://grahamkendall.net/ my url] 06:48 < _Auron|G1> o.O 06:49 < tr1p1ea> anyone seen district 9? 06:49 < _Auron|G1> not me 06:53 < _Auron|G1> I think I will stay up all night 06:56 < _Auron|G1> I slept half the day today 07:03 < BrandonW> I think glk might have just died. 07:04 < BrandonW> I didn't see District 9, but I did see Inglorious Basterds. 07:04 < BrandonW> Which I loved. 07:04 < tr1p1ea> hes had a good innings 07:04 < tr1p1ea> might go see that one tonight 07:04 * tr1p1ea glares at his trig table 07:04 < tr1p1ea> :X 07:10 < tr1p1ea> http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/1907/torus.gif 07:10 < tr1p1ea> slowly getting there 07:29 < _Auron|G1> o.o 07:29 < _Auron|G1> BrandonW: me too 07:33 < _Auron|G1> brad pitt and his accent, rofl 07:46 < Randomist> Oh, snap, I got to wake up at 0700. 07:52 < BrandonW> We're in the business of killing Nazis, and cousin, let me tell you, business is booming! 07:54 -!- Randomist [~winterven@216.117.120.28] has quit [Quit: http://www.archive.org/details/FuckingFailure] 07:57 < BrandonW> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIja0yValiE 07:57 < BrandonW> Brad Pitt is perfect in this movie. 08:01 -!- DrDnar [~DrDnar@c-24-35-66-83.customer.broadstripe.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 380 seconds] 09:28 -!- _Auron_ [~DarkAuron@adsl-99-147-84-147.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Infinity repeatedly denies rumours of plotting with zero to bring down the Universe.] 09:28 -!- _Aur|G1_ [~Auron-G1@m390436d0.tmodns.net] has joined #tcpa 09:30 -!- _Auron|G1 [~Auron-G1@m350436d0.tmodns.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 380 seconds] 09:32 -!- _Auron_ [~DarkAuron@adsl-99-147-84-147.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #tcpa 09:32 -!- mode/#tcpa [+o _Auron_] by efneTI86 09:32 -!- amohield [~amohield@193.188.117.66] has joined #tcpa 09:34 < amohield> Are there any TI-83/84 emulators for the iPhone? 09:35 < amohield> where is everyone? 09:36 <@_Auron_> asleep? it's past midnight and not even sunrise in america 09:36 < amohield> oh yeah, i forgot i wasn't in the US 09:36 < amohield> sorry 09:37 -!- amohield [~amohield@193.188.117.66] has left #tcpa [Leaving] 09:40 -!- amohield [~amohield@193.188.117.67] has joined #tcpa 09:40 -!- amohield [~amohield@193.188.117.67] has quit [Client Quit] 09:49 < DSP_Lord> lol 83/84 emulator for iPhone. 10:53 -!- pen [~myname@d207-6-186-113.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 493 seconds] 10:54 <@_Auron_> lol 10:56 -!- blankie [~myname@d207-6-186-113.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #tcpa 10:59 <@Nikky> haw haw 10:59 <@Nikky> emulator for the iphone 10:59 <@Nikky> what a joke 10:59 <@Nikky> DERRR 10:59 <@_Auron_> so uh 10:59 <@_Auron_> eclipse literally made me cry 10:59 <@_Auron_> fuck eclipse, I swear to god 10:59 <@Nikky> The IDE? 10:59 <@_Auron_> yes 11:00 <@Nikky> haw haw 10:59 <@Nikky> what did it do? 11:00 <@Nikky> and you're up early 11:00 <@_Auron_> more like late 11:00 <@_Auron_> and 11:00 <@Nikky> you're uyp late 11:00 <@_Auron_> I couldn't compile+send Stroids to my phone 11:00 <@Nikky> fail 11:00 <@_Auron_> it error'd with a timeout, but if I tried with any other project, it worked fine 11:00 <@Nikky> :( 11:00 <@_Auron_> I reinstalled the plugin, rebooted my computer, rebooted the phone, etc 11:00 <@Nikky> someone needs some olives 11:00 <@_Auron_> still wouldn't work with Stroids 11:01 <@_Auron_> so I was looking at the android manifest xml settings and added one, then saved 11:01 <@_Auron_> guess what? it magically decided to work again! 11:01 <@_Auron_> so. FUCK ECLIPSE. 11:01 <@Nikky> haha 11:01 <@Nikky> FUCK IT 11:01 <@Nikky> JUST FUCKIN STOP BEING A DICK TO AURON, ECLIPSE 11:01 <@_Auron_> YEAH 11:01 <@_Auron_> so I'm redoing the enemy spawns in Stroids 11:01 <@Nikky> awesome 11:01 -!- Tari [~Tari@emcnair-79-224.resnet.mtu.edu] has joined #tcpa 11:01 < efneTI92> [Tari] Remember, remember the 5th of November 11:01 <@_Auron_> and stats on the enemies to be scaled via difficulty 11:02 <@Nikky> It's business 11:02 <@Nikky> it's business time 11:05 <@_Auron_> did you ever try my darkbasic pro Stroids from several years ago? 11:05 <@_Auron_> it's what started this project in the first place, but I redid it for Android. the DBPro version is a bit different, but yet a bunch of things are still the same. 11:05 <@Nikky> nope 11:06 <@Nikky> I'M SORRY i'M NOT PERFECT 11:06 <@_Auron_> WHAT? 11:06 <@_Auron_> I KAN HAZ CHEEZ? 11:06 < tr1p1ea> "I love ya, always have" 11:07 < tr1p1ea> 11:11 <@Nikky> HAWHAW 11:12 <@Nikky> so warm 11:18 <@_Auron_> I'm trying to decide if I should skip class or not today 11:18 <@Nikky> no 11:18 <@Nikky> DON"T DO IT 11:18 <@Nikky> NOOOOOO 11:18 <@Nikky> meeting prof at cafe, bblz 11:19 <@_Auron_> it's my intro to C++ class, I already know the material; professor says he doesn't take roll, and he posts homework on the 'net 11:29 -!- TheStorm [~TheStorm@182.244.226.166.in-addr.arpa] has quit [Leaving] 12:06 -!- Spengo [~Spengo@64.251.241.35] has quit [Ping timeout: 380 seconds] 12:07 < tev> Uh-oh, did someone kill UnitedTI? 12:26 <@Nikky> haw haw 12:26 <@Nikky> UTI sucks ballz 12:27 <@Nikky> We should post an article about the DMCA and keys on ticalc 12:28 <@Nikky> the server is based in sweden, you know 12:28 <@Nikky> :) 12:32 * Nikky punches tev 12:33 <@Nikky> HEADSTOMP: http://www.flickr.com/photos/allynfolksjr/3871068931/ 12:36 <@_Auron_> ohmaigawd 12:36 <@_Auron_> my new enemy spawn code is so much more balanced 12:36 -!- JoeYoung [~Joe@c-98-200-24-14.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 12:37 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v JoeYoung] by efneTI80 12:37 <+JoeYoung> oh NOEZ! I can't access UTI! 12:37 <@_Auron_> instead of just being totally random, I generate a chance value from 1 to 100, and make percentage choices for the spawn groups now 12:37 <+JoeYoung> Is TI responsible? 12:37 <@_Auron_> using clever logic I can have some of those chances overlap, creating multiple groups at once 12:37 <@_Auron_> without using additional code 12:40 <+JoeYoung> can anyone else access UTI? 12:41 -!- tr1p1ea [~tr1p1ea@121-79-27-214-dsl.ispone.net.au] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 12:43 <+bsparks> JoeYoung, check is it up or is it just me? 12:43 <+JoeYoung> i dunno :/ 12:44 <+bsparks> Fuck lolohio. Imagine if your state, was like any normal groggy person getting up in the wee hours of the morning to take a shower. First the water is too hot, then too cold, etc, until it's just right. Except it's not the water here [ well, 200+ days of rain ] but just ambient temprature, and it never quite gets just right. It was 39 degrees in my bedroom this morning >_> yesterday morning? it was 79 degrees <_< 12:48 -!- JoeYoung [~Joe@c-98-200-24-14.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:51 <@_Auron_> lol. 12:51 -!- tr1p1ea [~tr1p1ea@121-79-27-214-dsl.ispone.net.au] has joined #tcpa 13:12 < DSP_Lord> uhoh. 13:12 * DSP_Lord slaps BrandonW around a bit with a large trout 13:13 < BrandonW> Anyone here have a 4-core PC with 8+GB of RAM and a 64-bit OS? 13:13 < DSP_Lord> no. 13:13 < DSP_Lord> but: 13:13 < DSP_Lord> http://digg.com/mods/Texas_Instruments_sending_DMCA_Notice_over_Cryptographic_Key 13:13 < DSP_Lord> http://slashdot.org/submission/1064339/RSA-keys-factored-DMCA-takedowns-issued 13:14 < DSP_Lord> i'm sure that's not a good thing. 13:15 < BrandonW> Where are you talking to Lionel on IRC? 13:15 < DSP_Lord> somewhere you will most likely never go >_> 13:15 < BrandonW> Omnimaga? 13:16 <@Andy_J> what are you doing still up DSP_Lord 13:16 <@Andy_J> I know this can't possibly be "up already" 13:16 < DSP_Lord> Andy_J: insomnia, she is a cruel mistress. 13:16 < DSP_Lord> and yes, BrandonW. 13:16 < DSP_Lord> i just so happened to click over there, and saw that, and thought 'oh shit' 13:17 < BrandonW> I couldn't join the channel if I wanted to. 13:17 < BrandonW> It's locked down. 13:17 < BrandonW> I've tried before. 13:17 < DSP_Lord> not entirely sure what you mean by that 13:17 < BrandonW> I can't /join it. 13:17 < BrandonW> #omnimaga 13:18 < DSP_Lord> weird. 13:18 <@_Auron_> haha wow, so TI is raging its fury now 13:18 < DSP_Lord> apparently. 13:19 < DSP_Lord> like every kid with a calc is gonna write their own OS. 13:19 <@_Auron_> ohnoes 13:19 < DSP_Lord> 95% of them probably would say something like "huh?" when told about it. 13:20 <@_Auron_> "dafuck is a key?" 13:20 < tr1p1ea> or just make the titlescreen :X 13:20 < jr19> i dont really understand why they care 13:20 <@_Auron_> "I don't see a keyhole in my calculator" 13:20 < DSP_Lord> ^ _Auron_ 13:20 < jr19> you have to buy a TI calc anyway if you want to run your own OS 13:20 < DSP_Lord> precisely. 13:20 <@_Auron_> "is it that hole at the bottom? I don't understand" 13:20 < DSP_Lord> it's not like this is making calcs completely free for everyone. 13:20 < DSP_Lord> still have to buy one. 13:20 <@_Auron_> and 13:21 <@_Auron_> "OH NO THIRD PARTY SOFTWARE ON OUR HARDWARE YOU HAVE TO BUY. WAHHHHHHHHHH" 13:21 <@_Auron_> TI, shut the fuck up. srsly. 13:21 <@Andy_J> they're more worried about modifying their OS 13:21 <@Andy_J> not like we couldn't do that before anyway 13:21 <@Andy_J> it's just easier now 13:21 < BrandonW> There are only a handful of people, literally, that know what to do with these factors, and none of them are going to go modifying the OS or trying to bring about the apocalypse. They should've stayed silent and let it blow over like all the other hacks and patches released. 13:22 <@Andy_J> My guess is they couldn't figure out what the previous exploits meant but they know exactly what a cryptographic key is 13:22 < DSP_Lord> heh 13:23 <@_Auron_> BrandonW: with your DMCA response, did you email that to them? 13:24 < tr1p1ea> you should have enrypted it lol 13:24 < BrandonW> Yes. 13:24 <@Andy_J> using their key! 13:24 -!- seidior [~spencer@ip68-107-76-123.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:24 <@_Auron_> LOL 13:25 < DSP_Lord> ^ Andy_J 13:25 < DSP_Lord> read my mind. 13:25 -!- seidior [~spencer@ip68-107-76-123.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #tcpa 13:26 <@_Auron_> !qadd <_Auron_> BrandonW: with your DMCA response, did you email that to them? | you should have enrypted it lol | using their key! 13:26 <@efneTI86> Quote 1634 added 13:26 <@_Auron_> !qfind pizza 13:26 <@efneTI86> 935:DSP_Lord: i ate like a whole pizza tonight | because you were drunk | and because i was hungry | that too, but mostly because you were drunk | yws | yes* | i have 2 pieces of pizza left | you hungry | ? | what're you going to do, DCC me pizza? | i can try | XD 13:26 <@efneTI86> 1464:DarkAuron: hawain pizza is an abomination | it types like a charm though 13:26 <@efneTI86> (All of 2 matches) 13:26 <@Andy_J> only 2?! 13:27 <@_Auron_> I really want pizza now. 13:27 <@Andy_J> ^ 13:28 <@_Auron_> huh. 13:28 < BrandonW> Where were you when I was writing the thing?! I should've MD5 hashed and encrypted it and attached that at the bottom. 13:28 <@_Auron_> my bank is making restrictions on what browsers I can use for 'security' reasons, and says I won't be able to use their site with Opera starting oct 7th 13:28 < DSP_Lord> lol. 13:29 < DSP_Lord> i do believe i was in Iraq for that quote. 13:29 < DSP_Lord> lolOpera 13:29 <@_Auron_> they apparently think IE, AOL, FF, and Safari are best 13:29 < DSP_Lord> IE is the real secure browser obv. 13:29 < BrandonW> "AOL"? 13:30 < DSP_Lord> yeah, ^ BrandonW 13:30 < jr19> i doubt they would've made that decision without extensive research 13:30 < BrandonW> Opera rules. 13:30 < BrandonW> Suck it. 13:30 < Tari> 'AOL' is just crapware wrapping IE 13:30 <@Andy_J> one of my banks says to use ie or netscape, but will let you use whatever anyway 13:30 < BrandonW> (to fill in for Nikky) 13:30 < Tari> incidentally, AOL->LOL 13:30 < DSP_Lord> psh, let that fool Nikky fend for himself. 13:30 * _Auron_ high-fives BrandonW 13:31 <@Andy_J> This reminds me of http://my.opera.com/hallvors/blog/2009/07/20/most-expensive-javascript-ever 13:32 < BrandonW> So no one has a quad core with 4- or 8GB of RAM? We really really really need someone to do the linear algebra on the 73 app key. 13:32 <@Andy_J> I have dual core with 2 gigs :( 13:32 <@Andy_J> .... 3 of those 13:32 < Tari> I've got dual-core with 6 gigs 13:33 <@Andy_J> so, uh, 6-sore with 6 gigs? >_> 13:33 <@E-J> expensivE-Javascript 13:33 < DSP_Lord> lol 13:33 < DSP_Lord> E-J you silly person you. 13:34 < BrandonW> The fourth key is sitthg there WAITING to be cracked, people. 13:34 < BrandonW> If I had the local resources I'd build one just for this. 13:34 < BrandonW> sitting* 13:36 <@E-J> DSP_Lord: got highlights 13:36 < DSP_Lord> maybe 13:36 < BrandonW> The 73 OS work units are fixed, by the way. 13:37 < BrandonW> So any sieving you do with BOINC goes towards that. 13:37 < BrandonW> Or potentially will. 13:38 <@E-J> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSaRmAuQtAk 13:38 <@E-J> might be nsfw 13:38 < DSP_Lord> oh god. 13:38 < DSP_Lord> just from the video title i am not watching that. 13:39 < Tari> I totally am, because of that.. 13:39 <@E-J> 1:35 is that part when it is shown what happens 13:39 < DSP_Lord> E-J: why. why would you link that. 13:40 <@E-J> DSP_Lord: because you don't think that european football is dangerous sport :) 13:40 < Tari> ow 13:41 < DSP_Lord> uh, i never said it wasn't dangerous. 13:41 < DSP_Lord> actually, i think it has the potential to be more dangerous than american football. 13:41 < DSP_Lord> if only because football here doesn't have riotous fans usually :P 13:41 <@E-J> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdgJfHDS4YE something different 13:42 < Tari> fail 13:43 < DSP_Lord> XD 13:43 < DSP_Lord> i really hope that guy got fired for being a complete moron. 13:44 <@Andy_J> DSP_Lord: you clearly haven't been to highschool football games around here 13:45 < DSP_Lord> most high school students i've seen do not set fire to random shit >_> 13:45 < DSP_Lord> well... 13:45 < DSP_Lord> not big shit anyway. 13:46 <@E-J> dsp has only played football with army rules 13:46 < BrandonW> http://erratasec.blogspot.com/2009/08/so-use-dmca-counter-claim.html 13:46 < BrandonW> This guy is mean to me. :( 13:46 < BrandonW> And...unitedti.org might be down. 13:47 <@E-J> army rules differ from prison rules so that you harm only enemies 13:47 < DSP_Lord> :P 13:48 <@E-J> full contact sport 13:50 < Tari> BrandonW, he may be mean to you, but he seems to know what he's talking about 13:52 < BrandonW> I knew my response would be ignored and I know I don't know enough about copyright law to defend myself on this. 13:52 < BrandonW> Everyone who's ever tried, even against legitimate misuses of the DMCA, have lost. 13:52 < BrandonW> I'm not arrogant enough to think I can win. 13:52 < BrandonW> But it does make me wonder if I shouldn't reconsider my position. 13:53 <@Andy_J> you still should not have acknowledged you received it if they didn't send it out with a process server 13:53 -!- Randomist [~winterven@216.117.120.153] has joined #tcpa 13:53 < efneTI92> [Randomist] http://wintervenom.mine.nu 13:53 < BrandonW> I could do what he says and put it back up within 14 days and say come get me. 13:54 -!- Merthsoft [~Shaun@140.141.29.184] has joined #tcpa 13:55 <@Andy_J> then you have to be willing to go to court 13:55 <@Andy_J> which can get expensive 13:55 < BrandonW> And I'm not, really. 13:55 < BrandonW> So the bitching at me is unjustified. 13:55 < Merthsoft> BrandonW's going to court? 13:55 < BrandonW> http://erratasec.blogspot.com/2009/08/so-use-dmca-counter-claim.html 13:55 < Randomist> They're suing now? 13:56 < BrandonW> You can act all high-and-mighty but the fact of it is, I don't have the time, money, motivation, knowledge, or common sense to go to court over this. 13:56 < BrandonW> And I don't think any of you do either. 13:57 < Merthsoft> Michael Vincent is a law student. 13:57 < Merthsoft> Let's get him to go to court for us. 13:58 <@E-J> i though MV is it nerd, Nikky is law student 13:58 <@Nikky> Yes 13:58 <@Nikky> Basically 13:59 < BrandonW> Nikky and the law? 13:59 <@Andy_J> I shudder at the thought. 13:59 <@E-J> Nikky & Order 13:59 <@Andy_J> I mean. 13:59 <@Andy_J> Hi Nikky. 13:59 <@Nikky> what's up 13:59 <@E-J> nerd victims unit 14:00 < DSP_Lord> I shudder at the thought. 14:00 < DSP_Lord> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 14:00 < Randomist> Nikky could be a good lawyer. 14:00 < DSP_Lord> but srsly, BrandonW, it's your shit, handle it however you see fit. 14:00 < DSP_Lord> well sure, better than me. 14:01 < DSP_Lord> my response to every accusation ever would be "NO U" 14:01 < DSP_Lord> and that wouldn't get me very far. 14:01 <@E-J> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jouni_k_seppanen/sets/72157622193029018/with/3873206915/ 14:01 <@E-J> asmand: ^ 14:01 < BrandonW> The last thing I want to do is back down, but when it comes down to jail/court or no, I choose no. 14:02 < DSP_Lord> lol. 14:02 < BrandonW> I'm okay with taking the numbers off the front page. 14:02 < BrandonW> But if they do more to me, of course I'd fight it. 14:02 < DSP_Lord> also, i as well fail to see how this violates the DMCA 14:02 <@Andy_J> DSP_Lord: good luck proving that outside of court 14:02 <@Andy_J> or even in court for that matter 14:02 < DSP_Lord> i'm well aware of that. 14:03 <@E-J> those lemmings pictures are from my university 14:03 < DSP_Lord> awesome, E-J :D 14:05 < BrandonW> I think I'll just upload the .key files and see what happens. 14:07 < Merthsoft> bold 14:11 < BrandonW> The date stamp public key is apparently the same on the 68k models, too. 14:11 < BrandonW> And they already know about it. 14:16 < Merthsoft> guys 14:17 < Merthsoft> it's my first day of senior year 14:17 < BrandonW> unitedti.org is down. 14:17 < BrandonW> Congratulations. 14:17 < Merthsoft> my last first day of college, if you will 14:17 <@Andy_J> Merthsoft: inb4 you fail something and have to go another semester >_> 14:17 < Merthsoft> only four years of grad school and two years of post-doc to go 14:17 < Merthsoft> fuck you Andy_J :( 14:18 <@Andy_J> eh. 14:18 < BrandonW> He gets that a lot. 14:19 * E-J starts his 8th (and hopefully last) year at the university 14:19 < Merthsoft> E-J: PhD? 14:19 <@E-J> Merthsoft: MSc 14:19 <@E-J> MSc(tech)* 14:22 < Merthsoft> ah 14:24 < Merthsoft> ok time to go 14:24 < Tari> I need to go buy books and such.. 14:26 -!- Barrett [~Barrett@75-165-243-181.slkc.qwest.net] has joined #tcpa 14:27 -!- Randomist [~winterven@216.117.120.153] has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:29 <@E-J> DSP_Lord: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNuXBgNPutY 14:30 -!- nicolas__ [~nicolas@proxy.acri.fr] has joined #tcpa 14:30 -!- Merthsoft [~Shaun@140.141.29.184] has quit [Ping timeout: 384 seconds] 14:35 < Tari> hehe, javascript hax 14:35 < Tari> broken order form for one variant of this product 14:35 < Tari> javascript:submitform() in the address bar makes it work anyway 14:52 -!- Rivereye [~Rivereye@198.110.88.149] has joined #tcpa 14:53 * Tari slaps Tari around with a large catfish 14:54 < Rivereye> all a catfish is good for 14:54 < Tari> yay 14:55 < Tari> aaaanyway, time to stop being lazy and go to the bookstore 14:55 < Rivereye> lol 14:55 < Rivereye> I know the feeling 14:55 < Rivereye> I have one more class, then I have to get down there 14:56 < BrandonW> It's time to go fishing. 14:57 < Rivereye> I so wish it 14:57 < Rivereye> http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/fail-owned-boat-fail.jpg?w=500&h=375 14:57 < Rivereye> do I even want to know where they plan to take the boat? 14:58 < BrandonW> The BOINC project is crunching ~12000 work units every day. 14:58 < BrandonW> That's almost a key per day. 14:59 < BrandonW> I hope you're crunching away on it, Rivereye. 14:59 < Rivereye> nope 14:59 < BrandonW> ! 14:59 <@Andy_J> I can't run boinc on my work laptop 15:01 < BrandonW> I run it on mine. 15:02 -!- Spengo [~Spengo@64.251.241.35] has joined #tcpa 15:22 <@Nikky> hi whores 15:22 -!- Rivereye [~Rivereye@198.110.88.149] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:22 < nicolas__> hey 15:22 < nicolas__> that'll be 200 euro, thanks 15:22 < _3fg> hey, anyone wanna help me with an assembly problem? 15:23 < nicolas__> _3fg, what's troubling you ? 15:23 < nicolas__> Nikky, was kinda weird seeing your pics of Rome on FB .... now that I live elsewhere :P 15:23 < _3fg> I'm using a tilemapper jim e wrote and I'm trying to display sprites on top of the tilemap output 15:24 < nicolas__> and 15:24 < _3fg> the trouble is I can't figure out where he's put the screenbuffer 15:24 < _3fg> so I can't write a sprite to the proper place 15:24 < nicolas__> hmm, usually those are in standard places ... can you post the tilemapper's code on some paste site ? 15:25 < _3fg> yes 15:25 < _3fg> http://pastebin.org/13685 this is the copy method he's using to write to the lcd 15:25 < _3fg> if you can figure out the inputs, I think I can get it working 15:26 < nicolas__> and there's no doc for this ? 15:26 < _3fg> nope 15:27 <@Nikky> nicolas__: hah 15:28 < nicolas__> _3fg, well, generally, de and hl are the registers used for memory addresses 15:28 < _3fg> yeah 15:29 < nicolas__> but looking at them here it looks like he's reading tiels from de and bitmaps from hl and putting them straight on screen ? 15:29 < nicolas__> no wait 15:29 < nicolas__> hmm, this is complicated :p 15:29 < _3fg> lol 15:30 < _3fg> it has multiple layers 15:30 < nicolas__> I need to brush up on this z80 stuff :D 15:30 < nicolas__> ld a, (de) ... then and (hl) .. then or (ix) 15:33 -!- Netham46 [~YouJustGo@c-67-166-1-212.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 15:33 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Netham46] by efneTI81 15:33 < efneTI92> [Netham46] "Rock is overpowered, paper is fine." -Scissors 15:35 < nicolas__> _3fg, ok, I think de must point to the screenbuffer 15:35 < _3fg> I believe so too 15:36 < nicolas__> hl points to a bitmap (inversed) which is used to "clear" the pixels you want to write and then ix points to the tile 15:36 -!- Netham45 [~YouJustGo@c-67-166-1-212.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 320 seconds] 15:38 -!- dga [~dga@MOO.CMCL.CS.CMU.EDU] has joined #tcpa 15:39 < jr19> moo 15:39 -!- krisk [~krisk@j239072.upc-j.chello.nl] has joined #tcpa 15:39 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v krisk] by SnowCrash 15:39 < nicolas__> poo 15:40 * dga was being silent hoping someone else was going to ask if unitedti.org being down was a bad sign or just a reboot. 15:40 < jr19> moo poo is often used as fertilizer 15:40 < Tari> it's been down all morning 15:41 * Tari just spent $300 on books 15:41 -!- mokomull [mmullins@rabbit.mmlx.us] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 15:42 -!- mokomull [mmullins@rabbit.mmlx.us] has joined #tcpa 15:42 <@Nikky> Tari: haw haw 15:42 <@Nikky> sucker 15:47 < jr19> books are for chumps 15:49 <+krisk> hi 15:55 < jr19> hey krisk 15:56 <+krisk> so the belgium online shop place mailed that they do have my case and PSU :o 16:07 < jr19> so you're getting both? 16:09 -!- i_c-Y [~Icy@pool-96-239-230-105.nwrknj.east.verizon.net] has joined #tcpa 16:09 < efneTI92> [i_c-Y] It's like I'm the last sane person on Earth. 16:13 <+krisk> yeah 16:13 <+krisk> I'm trying to choose between GF GTX 260 core 216 and Radeon HD4870 1GB though 16:14 <+krisk> benchmarks are saying the slightly cheaper 4870 is also slightly faster, but I'm wary of ATI 16:15 <+krisk> thoughts? 16:16 -!- nicolas__ [~nicolas@proxy.acri.fr] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 16:17 < Tari> ATI's been fine for me 16:17 < Tari> I've had a X1600 and HD3850 16:17 <+krisk> I guess I should give them a new chance 16:18 -!- _Aur|G1_ [~Auron-G1@m390436d0.tmodns.net] has quit [AndroidIrc Disconnecting] 16:19 < i_c-Y> The HD48xx series is very good 16:19 < i_c-Y> but you lose PhysX on games that support it , but still the HD48xx is probably a better buy 16:20 <+krisk> yeah it seems so, the only flaw in the benchmarks seemed to be lower GRAM (which really helps with high res AA) but there are 1GB editions now so the choice seems obvious 16:20 <+krisk> not to mention for the price difference I can get a nonstock cooler for it 16:20 <+krisk> does PhyshX actually work/matter? 16:21 <+krisk> I dont think I've ever seen it make an impact in benchmarks 16:23 -!- amohield [~amohield@193.188.117.67] has joined #tcpa 16:23 < amohield> everyone still asleep? 16:24 <@E-J> http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/religion.jpg 16:24 <+krisk> no 16:24 <@E-J> it's 19:24, who would sleep now? 16:25 < amohield> for me it is, but a lot of people still are in the US 16:25 <+krisk> cool HD4870 + fulltower + 720w PSU for the same price as GTX 260 core 216 + miditower + 550w PSU 16:26 < amohield> sweet 16:26 <@E-J> krisk: who pays your electricity bill?-) 16:26 < DSP_Lord> amohield: you were asking about iPhone emulators, right? 16:26 < amohield> yeah 16:26 < DSP_Lord> browse the iPhone store? >_> 16:27 < amohield> i did, but true emulators are prohibited by the developers agreement, i think 16:27 < DSP_Lord> i mean, unless BrandonW decided to code one, i highly doubt a 83/84 emulator exists for an iPhone. 16:27 < amohield> that's a shame 16:27 < amohield> how hard would it be to port one? 16:27 < amohield> like from the mac (if there is one) to the iphone 16:28 < DSP_Lord> ¯\(°_o)/¯ 16:28 < amohield> hahaha, that hard, eh? 16:28 -!- TD-Linux [~wheeeeeee@96-42-94-192.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:29 < amohield> i wouldn't mind if it were a jailbroken app, either 16:29 < DSP_Lord> you have to remember that a mac has just a tad more processing power than an iPhone. 16:29 < amohield> true 16:29 < amohield> but an iphone has a tad more processing power than a TI 84 16:29 < amohield> :D 16:32 < amohield> so the iEmulator is a no, then? 16:34 <+krisk> E-J: its a peak rating, actual watt/hour depends on the rest of the hardware 16:35 -!- TD-Linux [~wheeeeeee@96-42-94-192.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com] has joined #tcpa 16:42 < tev> UTI is back up 16:47 -!- tsrk [~tsrk@c-67-189-63-62.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:51 -!- i_c-Y [~Icy@pool-96-239-230-105.nwrknj.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 493 seconds] 16:52 -!- amohield [~amohield@193.188.117.67] has left #tcpa [Leaving] 16:52 -!- JoelS [~JSeligste@1601br1-egress-2.corp.tfbnw.net] has joined #tcpa 16:56 -!- i_c-Y [~Icy@pool-96-239-230-136.nwrknj.east.verizon.net] has joined #tcpa 17:03 < BrandonW> Thanks, tev. 17:03 < BrandonW> What is this "true emulators are prohibited by the developers agreement" thing? 17:03 < BrandonW> I would love to write an emulator for the iPhone and/or Android. 17:05 < _3fg> alright, I kind of got the thing working 17:05 < _3fg> but now it crashes after a few seconds 17:06 < _3fg> I need an emulator that allows me to go through the code step by step 17:08 < Tari> you mean a z80 TI emulator? 17:09 < BrandonW> Yes. 17:09 < BrandonW> I mean I meant that. 17:10 < Tari> er 17:10 < Tari> I was asking _3fg 17:10 < _3fg> yeah 17:10 < Tari> PTI can do it, I know 17:10 < Tari> AFAIK wabbitemu doesn't have a debugger (yet) 17:10 < _3fg> it does 17:10 <@Andy_J> BrandonW: you mean on the iphone? 17:10 < _3fg> and f7 is the step button I just found out 17:12 < i_c-Y> the iphone doesnt even allow SCUMMVM 17:13 < i_c-Y> you know, sierra mist with grapefruit isnt bad 17:14 < BrandonW> Andy_J, yes. 17:15 < BrandonW> I couldn't care less what Apple wants, I meant jailbroken of course. 17:15 <@Andy_J> *could 17:15 <@Andy_J> wait 17:15 <@Andy_J> whatever. 17:15 <@Andy_J> anyway 17:16 <@Andy_J> there's no technical reason you couldn't do it but jailbreak is stupid. 17:16 -!- _Auron|G1 [~Auron-G1@m390436d0.tmodns.net] has joined #tcpa 17:16 <@Nikky> iphone is stupid 17:16 < BrandonW> Why is "jailbreak" stupid? 17:16 < BrandonW> Nikky's stupid. 17:17 <@Andy_J> Because that implies that there's something wrong with it 17:17 <@Andy_J> and there isn't 17:17 <@Nikky> HAHAHHAHAAHAHAHA 17:17 < BrandonW> You're...against jailbreaking? 17:17 <@Nikky> oh man, that's great 17:17 <@Andy_J> For the sake of jailbreaking, yes. 17:18 < BrandonW> So you were just saying that it's not necessary to write a z80 emulator for the iPhone? 17:18 <@Andy_J> Just beacuse you want to run an app that isn't 100% kosher isn't a legitimate reason to jailbreak 17:18 < BrandonW> That, sir, is nonsense. 17:18 < BrandonW> Apple is stupid, believe it or not, and if I have to do that to do something, so be it. 17:20 <@Andy_J> I guess the point is the audience is so limited that I'm not sure if it's worth the bother 17:21 < i_c-Y> maybe you can use sleazy wording to get it into the app store without syaing its an emulator 17:22 < i_c-Y> Nikky is our future lawyer type person, maybe he can help you with that 17:22 <@Andy_J> Theey actually look at what the app does. 17:22 < i_c-Y> so all you need to do is hide the real functionality of an app as a secret code 17:23 < i_c-Y> so like you hit certain areas of the screen in a pattern and it unlocks THE EMULATORATOR! 17:25 < _3fg> sweet, I got wabbit to crash 17:27 < _3fg> Tari, what's the button to step in pti? 17:27 < Tari> iirc it's f9 17:27 < _3fg> ok 17:28 < Tari> no, it's f7 17:28 < _3fg> no, it's f8 17:28 < _3fg> lol 17:28 < _3fg> do you know how to restart a calculator in pti? 17:29 < Tari> I just reset pc to 0 17:29 < leofox> I shoot my laptop and buy a new one 17:41 -!- SnowLprd [~SnowLprd@suhaili.unl.edu] has joined #tcpa 17:42 < SnowLprd> Ahhhh... time to install Snow Leopard! 17:43 < i_c-Y> lol mac 17:44 < jr19> maybe hes installing it on a PC 17:44 < SnowLprd> Nope, I have a macbook. :-) 17:46 < DSP_Lord> why would a sane person install an Apple OS on a non-Apple machine? 17:46 < DSP_Lord> the key word there is sane, btw. 17:46 < _3fg> anyone wanna help my figure out where and why this is crashing? 17:46 < jr19> macbook air 17:46 < i_c-Y> why would a sane person touch an Apple product to begin with, DSP_Lord ? 17:47 < DSP_Lord> _3fg: ASM stuff? 17:47 < _3fg> yeah 17:47 -!- dpunkt [~dpunkt@p5090C75A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #tcpa 17:47 < Tari> I can look at it later (class now) 17:47 < DSP_Lord> sorry, you know better than to ask me that :P 17:47 < _3fg> :P 17:47 < DSP_Lord> i_c-Y: uh, perhaps because some people prefer apple products? 17:47 < DSP_Lord> just maybe? 17:48 < SnowLprd> So, has Andy already done the obligatory worshipping of Snow Leopard so I don't have to? 17:48 < jr19> i have an ipod, its ok 17:48 < jr19> i dont use itunes with it though 17:48 < _3fg> oh, I switched to a safecopy (was using fastcopy) and now it works 17:48 < DSP_Lord> smart man. 17:48 < DSP_Lord> iTunes is garbage. 17:49 < Tari> forgot to save some registers, eh? 17:50 < jr19> is there a way to install ipod updates without using itunes though? 17:54 -!- i_c-Y [~Icy@pool-96-239-230-136.nwrknj.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 380 seconds] 18:09 < BrandonW> TI-73 FREEWARE APP KEY CRACKED!!! 18:09 < BrandonW> I'm working on verifying. 18:09 <@E-J> http://sieni.us/?id=34 18:10 -!- dpunkt [~dpunkt@p5090C75A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 18:10 -!- dpunkt [~dpunkt@p5090C75A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #tcpa 18:11 -!- champigno [~p@c-76-19-26-145.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 18:11 -!- champigno [~p@c-76-19-26-145.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has left #tcpa [] 18:12 < dga> awesome, Brandon. :) 18:25 < incubus> FUck ya 18:25 < incubus> w00t w00t w00t w00t 18:26 < incubus> BrandonW++ 18:26 < incubus> BOINC RSA Lattice++ 18:26 -!- dga [~dga@MOO.CMCL.CS.CMU.EDU] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 18:27 -!- i_c-Y [~Icy@pool-71-172-201-237.nwrknj.east.verizon.net] has joined #tcpa 18:27 < efneTI92> [i_c-Y] It's like I'm the last sane person on Earth. 18:27 -!- i_c-Y [~Icy@pool-71-172-201-237.nwrknj.east.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:28 -!- i_c-Y [~Icy@pool-71-172-201-237.nwrknj.east.verizon.net] has joined #tcpa 18:28 -!- i_c-Y [~Icy@pool-71-172-201-237.nwrknj.east.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:28 -!- i_c-Y [~Icy@pool-71-172-201-237.nwrknj.east.verizon.net] has joined #tcpa 18:28 < BrandonW> We rule. 18:28 < BrandonW> TI sucks. 18:28 < BrandonW> The universe is great. 18:28 < BrandonW> I love everyone. 18:28 < BrandonW> We also have one of the 89Ti keys. 18:29 < BrandonW> 92+ and Voyage 200 keys are coming. 18:29 < BrandonW> So that's 04, 0A, 0102, whatever this 89Ti key is, the 89 key on unitedti.org, and two more are coming. 18:29 < BrandonW> Five soon to be seven. 18:30 <@Andy_J> SnowLprd: depends. 18:30 <@Andy_J> Do we have to, erm, /exterminate/ any bugs? 18:31 -!- Barrett_ [~Barrett@75-165-236-24.slkc.qwest.net] has joined #tcpa 18:34 -!- Barrett [~Barrett@75-165-243-181.slkc.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:40 < SnowLprd> Well, that depends on if you dual boot with Windows. :-) 18:42 <@Andy_J> That was a rather poor attempt at confirming your identity, which was already rather clear. 18:43 <@Andy_J> My only complaint with boot camp at this point is that they make it difficult to install the x64 drivers on an "unsupported" system 18:44 <@Andy_J> if you go through the hassle of hacking the DVD to not have EFI support so it will even boot, the drivers shouldn't get in your way of installing them for no good reason whatsoever. 18:44 < i_c-Y> well its your fault for having a mac.... 18:44 -!- i_c-Y was kicked from #tcpa by Andy_J [not in the mood.] 18:44 -!- i_c-Y [~Icy@pool-71-172-201-237.nwrknj.east.verizon.net] has joined #tcpa 18:45 < i_c-Y> :( 18:45 < i_c-Y> so, how do you like being in the mac panthers? 18:49 -!- Noah_ [~Noah@ip70-189-100-123.ok.ok.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:49 < BrandonW> In a few short hours/days, we will be able to sign: 83+/SE, 84+/SE, 89, 89Ti, 92+, and Voyage 200 OSes, and 73, 83+/SE (includes 84+/SE) Flash applications. 18:51 < BrandonW> What we lack: 73 OSes and 84+/SE-specific, 89, 89Ti, 92+, and Voyage 200 Flash applications. And the universal date stamp public key. 18:51 < BrandonW> Date stamp key doesn't matter and the battery trick works to install any 73 OS. 18:52 < BrandonW> We don't need an 84+/SE-specific Flash application key. 18:52 < BrandonW> So that just leaves the 68ks. 18:52 * BrandonW squeals 18:52 < _Digital> so when I get home we should be able to put third party OS's on the 68Ks? 18:52 < BrandonW> Yes. 18:53 < BrandonW> We can do it right now for the 89 and 89Ti, the 92+ and Voyage 200 are coming soon. 18:56 < DSP_Lord> i can totally picture BrandonW making an extremely gleeful expression and saying "SQUEEEEEEEEEEEE" right now. 18:56 < BrandonW> Oh I do. 18:56 < BrandonW> It's not all that rare. 18:56 < DSP_Lord> lol. 18:56 < DSP_Lord> i would like photographic and/or video evidence of this. 18:56 < i_c-Y> seriously? 18:57 < BrandonW> That's a lot of planning and set-up. 18:57 < BrandonW> You lose the urge to squeal at that point. 18:58 < DSP_Lord> well... 18:58 -!- Barrett_ [~Barrett@75-165-236-24.slkc.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:58 < DSP_Lord> just set up a camera somewhere, and have it record to one of _Digital's eleventy billion terabyte hard drives. 18:58 < DSP_Lord> eventually, it'll happen. 18:58 < _Digital> =D 19:00 < DSP_Lord> !qfind summon 19:00 <@efneTI86> 1559:DarkAuron: 4 more rings, noone's got them? | We need the powers of Sarcasm, Wit, Sex, IRC, and Heart to summon Captain Nikky. | Nikky is captain planet? 19:01 <@efneTI86> 1257:Peter_W: is chronomex on at any certain times..? | time to parse the logs, looking for frequency of messages from chronomex during daily hours ..or not :) | * chronomex has joined #tcpa | it is like he was summoned! 19:01 <@efneTI86> (All of 2 matches) 19:02 < BrandonW> I calcoolate two more weeks and we'll have the bulk of the sieving work done. 19:06 -!- Noah_ [~Noah@ip70-189-100-123.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #tcpa 19:06 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Noah_] by efneTI85, Remius 19:08 < BrandonW> Remaining keys: 9. Two are in the final phase so out of our hands and I can't verify we have polynomials on three of them. 19:09 < BrandonW> So we should be crunching on 4 currently. 19:10 -!- Noah_ [~Noah@ip70-189-100-123.ok.ok.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:13 < i_c-Y> barrett's servers would be excellent for this. 19:13 < BrandonW> The 73 OS key, and the 89, 89Ti, and 92+ Flash application keys. 19:15 < BrandonW> Why isn't Barrett working on it?! 19:15 < jr19> oh boinc only runs on windows... 19:15 < Tari> wrong 19:15 < BrandonW> The siever only works on Windows, I think. 19:16 < jr19> oh i was looking at the website for downloading and it only has a windows option 19:16 < jr19> i have a computer that could be computing things 19:17 < BrandonW> By all means, participate! 19:17 < i_c-Y> no, both of the things run on things other than windows. 19:17 < BrandonW> Are you running the client on a Linux machine right now for this factoring project? 19:17 < BrandonW> (i_c) 19:17 < BrandonW> (i_c-Y)* 19:18 < i_c-Y> ive used msieve and ggnfs before on non windows machines. 19:18 < BrandonW> Right, well, the code was hacked up for this project and it no longer works for some reason. 19:18 < i_c-Y> and boinc on non windows machines as well. 19:18 < i_c-Y> strange. 19:18 < BrandonW> If you read the thread, you would know that it doesn't work on Linux. 19:19 < i_c-Y> brb 19:19 -!- i_c-Y [~Icy@pool-71-172-201-237.nwrknj.east.verizon.net] has quit [Insert generic /quit message here. ] 19:19 < jr19> nm about windows talk, i see this now 19:19 < jr19> p boinc-client - core client for the BOINC distributed computing infrastructure 19:19 < jr19> doesnt mean it works for what you guys are doing though 19:19 < BrandonW> Right, it doesn't. 19:19 -!- tsrk [~tsrk@c-67-189-63-62.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 19:20 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v tsrk] by efneTI80 19:20 -!- i_c-Y [~Icy@pool-71-172-205-248.nwrknj.east.verizon.net] has joined #tcpa 19:23 -!- Genolo [~birds@69.177.26.176] has quit [Quit: (19:34:49)» DOCTOR HERR BINOMIAL, I'VE FOILED YOUR EVIL FACTORS] 19:27 -!- Genolo [~birds@69.177.26.176] has joined #tcpa 19:37 < asmand> E-J: sweet :) 19:46 -!- dpunkt [~dpunkt@p5090C75A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 19:46 -!- dpunkt [~dpunkt@p5090C75A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #tcpa 19:50 -!- Merthsoft [~Shaun@140.141.29.184] has joined #tcpa 19:53 -!- Merthsoft [~Shaun@140.141.29.184] has quit [Client Quit] 19:54 -!- Tyler2 [~nexon@residence-232-130.mschaffer.ualberta.ca] has joined #tcpa 19:56 < V200> so... I tried to set it up on the last key we were trying to get 19:56 < V200> but it wouldn't work 19:58 -!- dpunkt [~dpunkt@p5090C75A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 19:58 < V200> if someone wants to set up my server to do it, I can give them access (not my live server, the backup one which isn't doing much right now) 19:58 < V200> even if it'd need windows 20:00 < V200> I can mount any ISO as a CD/DVD from the other server 20:01 -!- dga [~dga@MOO.CMCL.CS.CMU.EDU] has joined #tcpa 20:03 -!- Randomist [~winterven@216.117.120.161] has joined #tcpa 20:03 < efneTI92> [Randomist] http://wintervenom.mine.nu 20:03 -!- dga [~dga@MOO.CMCL.CS.CMU.EDU] has quit [Client Quit] 20:06 -!- Randomist [~winterven@216.117.120.161] has quit [Client Quit] 20:20 -!- Tribal [~Tribal@oh-76-5-240-130.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #tcpa 20:22 -!- dga [~dga@MOO.CMCL.CS.CMU.EDU] has joined #tcpa 20:25 <+bsparks> Fuck pin 7 20:26 <+krisk> what is boinc? 20:27 < mokomull> distributed computing thing 20:27 < mokomull> kinda like bittorrent for number crunching, instead of downloading 20:27 <+krisk> i know that 20:27 <+krisk> computing what in this particular case? 20:28 < mokomull> the link in the topic is a workload for factoring more of the TI keys. 20:28 <+krisk> how rebellious 20:29 < mokomull> ehr, factoring more of these large composite numbers with two prime factors 20:30 < jr19> krisk hates bittorrent, therefore he hates boinc 20:30 <+krisk> i like distributed computing 20:31 < jr19> hehe 20:31 < dga> Speaking of which, did the key verify, BrandonW? 20:31 < jr19> hmm...ports was here yesterday? 20:32 <+krisk> oh? 20:35 < BrandonW> I haven't verified it yet, I have work stuff to take care of. 20:35 < BrandonW> It's a little harder to do because we have no tools to sign 73 apps. 20:36 < BrandonW> I'm also nowhere near a physical 73. 20:36 < jr19> seen ports 20:36 <@efneTI86> ports was last on IRC channel #tcpa 376 days, 4 hours, 29 minutes ago. 20:36 < BrandonW> Anybody have one and willing to send an app to it? 20:36 < BrandonW> To see if it takes it. 20:36 < jr19> holy moly 20:39 < BrandonW> grr 20:40 < BrandonW> Does no one have a 73?!?!?! I can produce a 73K in a few minutes. 20:41 < BrandonW> dga, by the way, you have a very impressive cluster. :) 20:42 < TD-Linux> BrandonW, I'm running it on linux 20:43 < TD-Linux> it check out 20:43 < BrandonW> Yeah, I can see now that it works. 20:43 < BrandonW> There was a time when it wasn't. 20:43 < TD-Linux> is 475.74 work units a lot? 20:43 -!- leofox [leofox@leofox.student.utwente.nl] has quit [] 20:44 < BrandonW> I suppose. 20:44 < TD-Linux> looks like all my work units are 89t flash application 20:44 < mokomull> It seems to have stopped giving me work units. 20:44 < TD-Linux> mokomull, are you out of disk space? 20:44 < mokomull> no 20:44 < TD-Linux> it wants a huge amount of disk space for some of them 20:44 < TD-Linux> even though it barely uses 3MB 20:45 < dga> thanks, brandon. :) I'm cheating a little. My students aren't using it at the moment, so... 20:45 < mokomull> oh well, I'm gonna disappear again. 20:46 < dga> (It does have a purpose other than factoring large numbers, but when it's bored, I figured we should give it something to do. They're turned on and consuming power anyway.) 20:46 < BrandonW> You're a teacher? 20:46 < dga> nod 20:46 < BrandonW> Are these student PCs? 20:47 < dga> No. It's a medium-sized data analysis cluster. 20:48 < dga> ~15 dual-proc mostly quad-core machines. 20T or so of disk space. the usual. Fairly small by real cluster standards, but good enough for us. 20:49 < BrandonW> Had I looked at the OSes and all, I should've known that. :( 20:49 < BrandonW> The community and I thank you very much. 20:50 < dga> no worries. I'm entirely supportive of people hacking their hardware. It's that teacher bug I caught. 20:50 < BrandonW> I have to say, this project has given me renewed faith in humanity. 20:50 < BrandonW> And this community. 20:50 < dga> though perhaps not TI's humanity. :) 20:50 < BrandonW> They have no humanity! 20:51 < Tari> dinrar! 20:56 < V200> seen ports_ 20:57 <@efneTI86> I don't know who ports_ is. 20:57 < i_c-Y> this early? 20:57 < V200> !seen ports_ 20:57 <@efneTI86> ports_ (~ports@64.146.49.170) was last seen being kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 68 days, 16 hours, 19 minutes ago with the reason (DSP_Lord). 20:57 < Tari> 17:00? 20:57 < i_c-Y> ya 20:57 < Tari> meh, it's when the dinner rush happens 'round here 20:57 -!- dga [~dga@MOO.CMCL.CS.CMU.EDU] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:57 < Tari> probably something about eating while it's still light outside >.< 20:58 -!- Merthsoft [~Shaun@140.141.29.184] has joined #tcpa 20:58 < Merthsoft> l 20:58 -!- KLuuppo [~erno@hoasnet-fe1fdd00-238.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:59 < jr19> bots must not have been in here at that time 21:02 < i_c-Y> i usually grab food at 5 iff i have a 6 o clock class 21:03 < jr19> class schmlass 21:06 -!- Tahben [~chatzilla@ip70-162-174-179.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #tcpa 21:07 < jr19> i'm getting sick of these mac vs pc commercials where they say "i want a computer that won't ever get viruses and will just work" 21:07 < jr19> omg mac ftw 21:07 < jr19> its like false advertising 21:10 <+krisk> but its ok because its anti-microsoft 21:12 -!- Tahben [~chatzilla@ip70-162-174-179.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:13 < jr19> sometimes i think it'd be funny if someone created something like MS Blaster for OSX just so mac fanboys would stfu 21:16 <@Andy_J> neat to have a CMU prof on board, I guess 21:18 -!- Merthsoft [~Shaun@140.141.29.184] has quit [Ping timeout: 384 seconds] 21:19 -!- Randomist [~winterven@216.117.120.83] has joined #tcpa 21:19 < efneTI92> [Randomist] http://wintervenom.mine.nu 21:21 -!- Tyler2 [~nexon@residence-232-130.mschaffer.ualberta.ca] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:31 * Randomist is probably the only person wearing all near-white. 21:31 < i_c-Y> loser 21:31 < Randomist> Too hot for dark clothes. 21:31 <@Nikky> haha 21:34 < jr19> i'm wearing dark clothes 21:40 -!- krisk [~krisk@j239072.upc-j.chello.nl] has quit [User excited] 21:41 < BrandonW> !t Welcome to #TCPA | $03, $09, $0102 keys cracked! http://boinc.unsads.com/rsals/ | calc.org is hiring! Ask V200 for more | ticalc.org: ASM on the TI-81! 21:41 -!- efneTI86 changed the topic of #tcpa to: Welcome to #TCPA | $03, $09, $0102 keys cracked! http://boinc.unsads.com/rsals/ | calc.org is hiring! Ask V200 for more | ticalc.org: ASM on the TI-81! 21:42 < BrandonW> Did you guys see Ben's United TI post about the 81 ROM dump? 21:42 < BrandonW> The man hand-typed the code in to exploit and execute code from the OS to dump the ROM to the screen, and then a poor man's OCR program to read it in pieces. 21:42 < BrandonW> Off the 81's LCD. 21:42 < BrandonW> <3 21:45 -!- JoeYoung [~Joe@c-98-200-24-14.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 21:45 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v JoeYoung] by efneTI81 21:45 <+JoeYoung> zomg disney owns spider man now. 21:46 < i_c-Y> ya 21:47 < jr19> do any of you guys play rock band or GHWT 21:48 < seidior> jr19: hahahaha 21:48 < seidior> you could say some of us are casual players 21:48 * seidior glares at Andy_J 21:49 <+Netham46> lol 21:49 < jr19> is one supposed to be better than the other? 21:49 <+Netham46> google so has BrandonW's site cached with the numbers on it 21:49 <@Andy_J> casual? 21:49 <@Andy_J> not so much. 21:49 < seidior> hahahaha 21:49 * seidior hugs Andy_J 21:49 <@Andy_J> I don't have GHWT because ... lol. 21:49 -!- DrDnar [~DrDnar@c-24-35-66-83.customer.broadstripe.net] has joined #tcpa 21:49 <@Andy_J> though I am getting gh5 tomorrow 21:49 <@Andy_J> (wtf happened to gh4?) 21:49 < BrandonW> Netham46, it never even had the 0A key. 21:50 < BrandonW> So many more sites out there have more information. 21:50 < BrandonW> I'm definitely going to have a 0102.key file for everyone tonight. 21:50 < BrandonW> To sign 73 apps. 21:50 < i_c-Y> Andy_J: world tour? 21:50 <+Netham46> Nice. 21:50 <@Andy_J> i_c-Y: the explicity made a big deal over that *not* being gh4 21:50 <@Andy_J> *they 21:50 < jr19> so GHWT is better than rock band? 21:50 < i_c-Y> i think world tour counts as the 4th game 21:51 <@Andy_J> jr19: fuck no, ghwt sucks 21:51 <@Andy_J> i_c-Y: point of the matter is, no game was ever called gh4. 21:51 <@Andy_J> if they want to go that rought, gh5 should be at *least* gh7 21:51 <@Andy_J> *route 21:51 <@Andy_J> I really cannot type anymore. 21:51 < i_c-Y> i wonder when they'll make a good guitar hero game 21:52 <@_Auron_> lol 21:52 <@Andy_J> GH2. 21:52 < jr19> ah ok 21:52 < jr19> i didnt know, i've never played anything but rock band 1 21:52 <@Andy_J> rb2 > anything out at the moment 21:52 < jr19> hmm maybe i can pick it up used off craigslist or something 21:52 <@Andy_J> I'm not a fan of the neversoft engines, but I haven't played gh5 yet so that remains to be seen 21:53 < jr19> cold weather is coming and i'll be inside more 21:53 < TD-Linux> what about ddr? :( 21:53 <@Andy_J> or the neversoft charting for that matter. 21:53 <@Andy_J> ... or activision :) 21:53 <+Netham46> BrandonW, is the BOINC project continuing on, or should I uninstall it? 21:53 < TD-Linux> there are still jobs 21:53 <@Andy_J> Netham46: install some other boinc project! 21:53 <@Andy_J> never uninstall boinc :) 21:54 <+Netham46> heh 21:54 < TD-Linux> flash app keys mainly 21:54 <+Netham46> I'll leave it on my desktop/servers 21:54 <@Andy_J> if searching for little green men doesn't suit your fancy, I know there's at least one protein folding thingy 21:54 -!- Tribal [~Tribal@oh-76-5-240-130.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has left #tcpa [Leaving] 21:54 <+Netham46> but I think I'm going to take it off my laptop anyways 21:55 <+Netham46> Netbooks wern't made for boinc. 21:55 -!- Netham46 is now known as Netham45 21:56 < jr19> i'm not sure you should be boincing anything made from circuit boards and what not 21:58 <+Netham45> jr19, what? 22:04 -!- Tribal [~Tribal@oh-76-5-240-130.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #tcpa 22:06 <@chronomex> BrandonW: 1) do you ever sleep? 2) where can I get the new keys? 3) what is that thread about the romdump? 22:06 <+Netham45> chronomex, http://www.unitedti.org/index.php?showtopic=8926&pid=136104&st=0&#entry136104 22:06 <@chronomex> thanks 22:06 <+Netham45> that's the romdump thread. 22:07 <@_Auron_> omfg I'm so tired 22:15 -!- Tribal [~Tribal@oh-76-5-240-130.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:15 -!- Tribal [~Tribal@oh-76-5-240-130.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #tcpa 22:21 -!- glk [glk@64.149.49.61] has joined #tcpa 22:21 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v glk] by efneTI81 22:25 -!- Randomist [~winterven@216.117.120.83] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:27 < BrandonW> You most certainly should be continuing to work the project, Netham45. 22:27 < BrandonW> Keep BOINCing until I say you can stop or it's shut down. 22:28 < BrandonW> 68k people set this project up, we owe it to them to give them their keys. 22:28 < BrandonW> And we do still have the 73 OS and date stamp keys pending. 22:28 < BrandonW> So we're not done by any means. 22:37 -!- likeWOAH [~Icy@pool-71-172-205-248.nwrknj.east.verizon.net] has joined #tcpa 22:37 < efneTI92> [likeWOAH] It's like I'm the last sane person on Earth. 22:38 -!- likeWOAH [~Icy@pool-71-172-205-248.nwrknj.east.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:39 -!- Tyler2 [~nexon@residence-232-130.mschaffer.ualberta.ca] has joined #tcpa 22:39 < |Omega|> :3 22:48 < BrandonW> CONFIRMED 22:48 < BrandonW> I've confirmed the TI-73 freeware Flash application key works perfectly. 22:49 < BrandonW> It's even easier than I thought, Wappsign can handle creating 73Ks as long as your header specifies such a key and you use the right keyfile. 22:49 < BrandonW> 4085F11FF810591B84875FDE4C92A5961CDD233A9B7ED76E8CFF65128C71420FCCC80E375DC8D2A8551AE2BEB9FD41654CE7B0A95E32BE9997750407904560BEFC 22:49 < BrandonW> 20AB07CBD3276D78777FE14E6048164F95F3E63AD2973BECC89E319ED972418E54 22:49 < BrandonW> 218FFB96515298A3A08C559840BE71CAFF4D60DD5A5E06396C7686F4661A4E34FD02 22:49 < BrandonW> That's my 0102.key file. 22:49 < BrandonW> Sign away! 22:49 < BrandonW> Just make sure you have "DB 01h,02h" as the data to field 8010h in your app header. 22:54 < Grue`> Yays? 22:54 < BrandonW> Yes! 22:54 < BrandonW> Michael will be ecstatic. 22:54 < BrandonW> Now both Free73 and Free83P are useless. 22:55 < BrandonW> I'll be creating 04.key and 0A.key soon. 22:55 < BrandonW> All we need is the 73 OS key and the date stamp key and we have totally broken the z80s. 23:01 <+Netham45> BrandonW, okay, I'll keep my computers chugging away at it. 23:03 -!- Merthsoft [~Shaun@140.141.29.184] has joined #tcpa 23:03 < BrandonW> Michael said "fantastic!" 23:03 <+Netham45> lol 23:04 <+Netham45> woo, I've done the 17th most on the BOINC project. 23:04 <+Netham45> according to http://boinc.unsads.com/rsals/user_search.php?search_string=&search_type=total&country=any&profile=either&team=either&action=Search 23:04 <+Netham45> ooh, just breached 10,000 total credits too. 23:04 <+Netham45> ... 23:04 <+Netham45> am I the only one slightly distrubed that people have clan tags on BOINC? 23:06 <@Andy_J> get them to build a ppc os x seiver and I'll attach my always-on to it 23:09 -!- Barrett_ [~Barrett@75-165-233-21.slkc.qwest.net] has joined #tcpa 23:11 < BrandonW> You don't ask for much, do you? 23:15 < Merthsoft> hi BrandonW 23:17 * _Auron_ sighs 23:17 <@_Auron_> I'm so tired >< 23:19 <@Andy_J> BrandonW: gcc -arch ppc file.c 23:19 <@Andy_J> not that hard. 23:20 <@Andy_J> (using the proper version of gcc of course.) 23:21 -!- JoeYoung [~Joe@c-98-200-24-14.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 23:21 -!- Goplat [~goplat@76-191-156-24.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has joined #tcpa 23:22 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Goplat] by efneTI89, Remius 23:24 -!- Noah_ [~Noah@ip70-189-100-123.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #tcpa 23:24 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Noah_] by efneTI85 23:28 < BrandonW> If it's so easy, then do it yourself... 23:29 <@Andy_J> do they have source posted? 23:31 < BrandonW> Somewhere, yes. 23:33 < Tari> hahaha 23:33 < Tari> http://translationparty.com/#3762363 23:33 -!- Tyler2 [~nexon@residence-232-130.mschaffer.ualberta.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:34 < sir_lewk_> soo guys 23:34 < sir_lewk_> what is the state of the #tcpa? 23:35 < BrandonW> Nine keys left to factor on the distributed project, and we can now sign 73 applications. 23:39 < i_c-Y> Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo turns into a few buffalo and buffaro 23:39 < sir_lewk_> very nice 23:44 < BrandonW> I'm going to avoid posting any more keys on the United TI thread to keep all this low-key. 23:44 < BrandonW> Until we get all the keys factored. 23:44 < BrandonW> Then of course I'll scream to high heaven, with downloads. 23:59 <@chronomex> woot 23:59 <@chronomex> I can't wait --- Log closed Tue Sep 01 00:00:44 2009