--- Log opened Fri Aug 28 00:00:44 2009
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00:03 < Barrett> does os x not use serial numbers to install?
00:03 < bsparks> not usually no
00:03 < bsparks> wait, the OS itself?
00:03 < Barrett> yes
00:03 < bsparks> no serial numbers, no
00:03 < Barrett> how do they prevent you from sharing install dvds?
00:03 < _Auron|G1> so it looks like efnet hates my college's connection
00:03 < chronomex> oh?
00:04 < Barrett> _Auron|G1, efnet.xs4all.nl
00:04 < _Auron|G1> I couldn't get on earlier today because all the servers kept banning me
00:04 < Barrett> xs4all always lets me on
00:04 < _Auron|G1> prison, blessed, efnet, and he to name a few
00:05 < _Auron|G1> yay sprinkles
00:07 < Nikky> Barrett: nevermind
00:08 <+Netham45> _Auron|G1, I've had that happen to me before too. I've noticed that mzima always lets me on, though.
00:09 <+Netham45> and xs4all does too.
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00:11 <+Netham45> ...
00:11 <+Netham45> I was literally in the process of typing a question up for Barrrett.
00:11 < chronomex> win
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00:19 < _Digital> wb '86
00:19 < _Digital> !k Netham45 test kick
00:20 < _Digital> :(
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00:26 <+sir_lewk> whoa, just saw him again! :O
00:48 <+Netham45> I see dead bots.
00:51 < Nikky> !k _Digital 
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01:05 < _Digital> Nikky, what I cannot use Netham45 as a test kick?
01:05 < _Digital> used to be common practice
01:05 <+Netham45> I used to be an ass, too.
01:06 < i_c-Y> meh. we may as well keep him as a test kick.
01:07 < _Digital> Spengo isn't around, but Genolo is
01:07 < chronomex> !k Netham45 test kick
01:07 < chronomex> huh
01:07 < Genolo> huh
01:07 < Genolo> hi
01:08 < chronomex> hi
01:08 < _Digital> 86 already left
01:08 < Genolo> yeah use me for shit
01:08 <+Netham45> I vote we test kick on bsparks, for obv. reasons.
01:08 <+Netham45> *awaits predictable rage message from bsparks*
01:08 < _Digital> used to be an ass?
01:09 < bsparks> !k bsparks test
01:09 < bsparks> eh
01:09 < bsparks> fail
01:09 < _Digital> !k bsparks vote++
01:09 < _Digital> :P
01:09 < bsparks> !k bsparks ZOMGCOMMUNISTOBAMA>!>?!!?!?!>!>!?!>?!@#?!>#?>!@
01:09 < bsparks> damn
01:10 < _Digital> !k bsparks I love Nikky
01:10 < bsparks> !k bsparks _Digital is a calc whore, owait, BrandonW is
01:11 < _Digital> technically I think he's actually a pimp, not a whore
01:12 < _Digital> !qsay
01:12 < _Digital> !qs
01:12 < _Digital> !q
01:12 < _Digital> wait, duh
01:12 < _Digital> thaty won't work either
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01:13 < _Digital> hey slacker
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01:32 < bsparks> DarkLord_, did you hear the good news!
01:32 < bsparks> Guitar Hero 3fg's Pants edition is coming out soon!
01:35 <+DarkLord_> hmmmmmm.  I dont really care I dont think....
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01:36 < Tari> this torrent is being dumb
01:36 < i_c-Y> so are you
01:36 < Tari> I got the first 100 MB or so in a couple minutes
01:37 < Tari> then speeds dropped to ~15 kB/s
01:37 < i_c-Y> well stop pirating stuff and youwoulndt have this probelm
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01:38 < bsparks> i_c-Y, I had multiple torrents do that to me. from OC Remix, Linux distros, public music sites, etc
01:38 < _Auron|G1> man looking back at the original Stroids in dbpro.. damn I went a long way
01:39 < i_c-Y> yeah well if you werent such pirates....
01:39 < _Auron|G1> and yet they're fairly similar
01:39 < bsparks> i_c-Y, how does that even make sense?
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01:40 < efneTI92> [Randomist] Keeping it simple with Arch Linux since 2007.
01:41  * Randomist waves, and grumbles because he blew out another theatre system.
01:41 < _Auron|G1> lol
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02:02 < _Auron|G1> nomnomnom
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02:18 < BrandonW> It does indeed to be a cookie-cutter DMCA notice.
02:18 < BrandonW> I'll of course publicly post it.
02:18 < BrandonW> indeed seem*
02:19 < BrandonW> All they want is for me to take down the publicly-posted numbers, which I'll do.
02:19 < i_c-Y> fight the power
02:19 < BrandonW> I'll be damned if I don't plaster this key absolutely everywhere, though.
02:19 < BrandonW> I will carve it into trees, order custom t-shirts, whatever it takes.
02:19 < Tari> apparently they haven't noticed my mention of it :)
02:20 < BrandonW> I'm very seriously considering it, would any of you buy the t-shirt?
02:20 < Tari> if it was awesome enough, I totally would
02:20 < BrandonW> I'd need some help designing it.
02:20 < BrandonW> At the very least I'll get one for myself.
02:21 < BrandonW> And probably the guys at work, I think they would.
02:21 < BrandonW> They went totally apeshit at work.
02:21 < BrandonW> My manager wants to proofread my response.
02:21 < BrandonW> To fight the power and whatnot.
02:22 < i_c-Y> you need to make it something that you can wear around girls and not ruin all chances with them. which might be hard .
02:22 < Randomist> BrandonW:  They finally sent you a DCMA notice?
02:22 < BrandonW> Yeah. We're talking a lot of digits here.
02:22 < BrandonW> Randomist, yes.
02:22 < BrandonW> I've had a great, long day.
02:22 < BrandonW> A DMCA notice is vindication of 10 years of work.
02:22 < BrandonW> I'm proud.
02:23 < BrandonW> I'm going to print it on colored paper and frame it.
02:23 < Randomist> BitTorrent.
02:23 < BrandonW> Yes, I thought you'd say that, you get to be the guy to do that.
02:23 < BrandonW> I'll send you the keys of course.
02:23 < Tari> (or grab them from my site...)
02:23 < Randomist> Link?
02:24 < BrandonW> Yes, I forgot to ask, where is your site?
02:24 < BrandonW> I should just replace the keys with a link to yours. :)
02:24 < BrandonW> Free DMCA notices to anyone who wants one!
02:24 < Tari> http://taricorp.net/blog/tags/TI
02:24 < Randomist> Actually, instead of BitTorrent, maybe I'll put it on BayWords.
02:24 < Tari> a little pitiful that those are the two newest posts there
02:25 < i_c-Y> i want a copy of this dmca notice
02:25 < Tari> pastebin!
02:25 < BrandonW> I WILL!
02:25 < BrandonW> I have to get settled.
02:25 < BrandonW> Groceries to carry in and stuffs.
02:25 < BrandonW> We need to spread this E-V-E-R-Y-W-H-E-R-E on the internet.
02:25 < BrandonW> I wish this could get as much fame as the HDDVD encryption key.
02:25 < Tari> submit to slashdot?
02:26 < BrandonW> Somebody get on it.
02:26 < BrandonW> Link to my DMCA notice when I get it up.
02:26 < Tari> I suppose hackaday might like it, too
02:26 < Randomist> Bottom one's the 83+ and top's the 84+?
02:26 < BrandonW> Correct.
02:26 < BrandonW> Tari or somebody, work on creating .key files.
02:27 < BrandonW> (It's just a 3-line text file, n, p, and q in that order, length-indexed Little Endian hex)
02:27 < i_c-Y> digg it too. they can be our buffer
02:27 < BrandonW> The ones on his page are Big Endian.
02:27 < i_c-Y> just let them cut down
02:27 < Tari> argh, autopager breaks hackaday
02:27 < Tari> the navbar get shifted down with every new page it gets
02:29 < BrandonW> I'm counting on ALL of you people, because I've been compromised. Spread this everywhere you possibly can.
02:29 < BrandonW> The goal is to get it in enough places that TI can't possibly take down everything.
02:30 < BrandonW> This is finally something we can all contribute with, even if you don't have a calculator.
02:30 < BrandonW> Make this your one contribution to this community.
02:31 < i_c-Y> where is the key?
02:31 < leofox> BrandonW what do i ned tio sporead
02:31 < leofox> oh god im so drunk
02:31 < leofox> but this sounds cool
02:31 < BrandonW> Ask again when sober.
02:31 < BrandonW> Print it out, post it everywhere.
02:31 < BrandonW> Just like the HDDVD craze.
02:31 < Tari> that totally made me lol, though
02:31 < leofox> but tomorrow is work :(
02:32  * Tari prints a copy and hangs it in the hall
02:32 < BrandonW> i_c-Y, I'll post it everywhere when I get a few minutes to myself.
02:32 < BrandonW> Still bringing in groceries...
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02:32 < leofox> haha being drunk on tcpa
02:32 < leofox> thats totally a tradition or w/e now
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02:37 < Randomist> http://pastebay.com/43023 (Just to make sure its right before making permanent.)
02:37 < BrandonW> Yes, go for it.
02:37 < BrandonW> Michael_V, we're making torrents of it.
02:37 < BrandonW> That'll never come down.
02:37 <+Michael_V> ah
02:38 < _Auron|G1> damn freenode is dead tonight
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02:39 < Randomist> http://pastebay.com/43025 - permanant
02:39 <+Michael_V> sneak it in webpages everywhere
02:39 < i_c-Y> unless people stop sharing
02:39 <+Michael_V> (we can also then see how far it spreads with google)
02:39 < BrandonW> Yes!
02:39 < BrandonW> Excellent ideas, people!
02:39 < BrandonW> Posted by "Texas Instrument", eh?
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02:40 <+Michael_V> don't forget blog spam
02:40 <+Michael_V> you can post it in comments on millions of blogs
02:40 <+Michael_V> your friends' blogs
02:40 <+Michael_V> etc.
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02:41 < BrandonW> Somebody keep notes on all this.
02:41 < BrandonW> So we can spread the links as well.
02:41 < _Auron|G1> even facebook
02:41 < _Auron|G1> make a facebook note
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02:42 < BrandonW> I think it'll be a little more exciting to outsiders once I get the DMCA notice up.
02:43 <+Michael_V> you have my congratulations on that
02:43 <+Michael_V> I never received a formal notice from TI
02:43 <+Michael_V> only threats
02:43 <+Michael_V> I have however received a trademark infringement notice
02:43 < _Auron|G1> you've gotten threats?
02:43 <+Michael_V> from the UK
02:43 < _Auron|G1> for what?
02:43 <+Michael_V> yes, back when I first had third-party OSes running
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02:43 < _Auron|G1> lol
02:43 <+Michael_V> for announcing that I was creating my own OS
02:44 < Randomist> Crap, I can't torrent here.
02:44 < Spengo_> _Digital, whaddayawant
02:44 < Tari> just waiting on the DMCA notice to be posted
02:44 < _Auron|G1> !qfind pizza
02:44 < _Auron|G1> oh
02:44 < BrandonW> They HAVE stated publicly that they're cool with creating an OS so long as you don't use any of TI's copyrighted code, correct? I was wanting to quote it in my response.
02:44 < _Auron|G1> :/
02:44 <+Michael_V> BrandonW: I don't believe they are cool with anything
02:44 <+Michael_V> they may have ignored the OSes however
02:45 < BrandonW> In that huge DS thread, I could've sworn I saw a pasted response to that effect.
02:45 <+Michael_V> well, eventually they didn't care about me
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02:45 <+Michael_V> as long as I promised not to use the code
02:45 < drdnar> They're so not-cool, the graphite in their pencils melts.
02:45 <+Michael_V> but I wouldn't hardly call that "cool"
02:45  * Michael_V thinks TI needs to realize that no one is going to do anything evil to their OS
02:46 <+Michael_V> we could already hack it anyway
02:46 < BrandonW> We've already BEEN doing evil stuff to their OS.
02:46 <+Michael_V> what do they think we're going to do?
02:46 < BrandonW> We have released patches everywhere.
02:46 <+Michael_V> Despite all their worry, what have we accomplished since 2001?
02:46 <+Michael_V> no one really has any modified OS on their calculator
02:46 < drdnar> It's not like we're doing anything to affect the sales of their calcs.
02:46 < BrandonW> There's no profit in the z80 models anymore anyway.
02:46 <+Michael_V> except people in this channel
02:46 < Tari> PTT patch?
02:46 < Spengo_> hey Nikky 
02:46 < Spengo_> Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky 
02:46 < BrandonW> Tari, yes, and Ben's defragment patch, PLCDFIX, and all sorts of others.
02:46 < drdnar> I saw a TI-84+SE in Target for about $100.
02:47 < Tari> ja- I'd think they'd actually care about the PTT patch, though
02:47 <+Michael_V> I think the in-house lawyers for TI just need a reason to keep their jobs in the recession
02:47 < drdnar> defragment patch?
02:47 < Randomist> Maybe if someone pastes it on 4chan, it will become a meme.  :P
02:47 < BrandonW> Yeah, I'm not sure what it is exactly, something about a TI bug about defragmenting with really huge apps oncalc.
02:47 <+Michael_V> how huge?
02:47 <+Michael_V> I never had a problem with Emu8x
02:47 < BrandonW> I think it's 1MB+.
02:48 <+Michael_V> hmm
02:48 < Spengo_> Nikky is never here anymore
02:48 <+Michael_V> I thought I might have exceeded that
02:48 <+Michael_V> but perhaps not
02:48 < BrandonW> It's primarily for TI-Boy SE if I remember correctly.
02:48 < BrandonW> Spengo_, Nikky's here but he's also on vacation in Italy right now, you're the one that's never here to know it. Go away already.
02:48 <+Michael_V> I know I got up to 82 ROM + 83 ROM + 85 ROM + 86 ROM + 16KB
02:48 <+Michael_V> whatever size that is
02:49 < BrandonW> There's a United TI thread on it with links, whatever it is.
02:49 < BrandonW> I wonder if United TI will get shut down over this.
02:49 <+Michael_V> get more computers!
02:49 < drdnar> I think the main reason is teachers quailed about cheating and game playing. The teachers want to control the calcs like they own them.
02:49 <+Michael_V> we can be done before they know what's hit them
02:49 <+Michael_V> we're almost done anyway
02:49 < BrandonW> They finished sieving on the 0102 key, final processing now.
02:50 <+Michael_V> I'll up my CPU allocation to BOINC
02:50 < i_c-Y> who started the BOINC project for this?
02:50 < drdnar> I once compiled and signed a 96 page dummy app. I think I still have it somewhere.
02:50 < seidior> you guys know nikky is in Italy, right?
02:50 < BrandonW> If we can just get 0102, we are done with the z80 calculators.
02:50 <+Michael_V> 0102 is really the only key at all that means a lot to me
02:50 <+Michael_V> personally
02:50 < BrandonW> i_c-Y, squalyl, read the thread.
02:50 <+Michael_V> I would love to make 73 apps
02:50 < drdnar> What's 0102 for anyany?
02:50 < BrandonW> 73 apps.
02:50 < BrandonW> You can use Free73 to add the 0104 key to the certificate.
02:50 < BrandonW> Or if we can get the 0102 key, just sign them.
02:50 <+Michael_V> I wrote 73 apps that I could never run on any other 73
02:51 <+Michael_V> (thanks to that dev key from TI)
02:51 <+Michael_V> DuckIE and such
02:51 <+glk> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four+book+title+1984&hl=en&ct=clnk
02:51 <+Michael_V> if only...
02:51 <+Michael_V> if only...
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02:51 < BrandonW> Unless you put the dev key in the certificate.
02:51 < drdnar> So adding 0104 lets you send 83+ apps?
02:51 < BrandonW> It lets you sign with 0104 and wappsign like any other 83+ app, and create a 73k.
02:51 <+Michael_V> hmm
02:51 <+Michael_V> BOINC is out of work at the moment?
02:51 < BrandonW> At the moment.
02:51 < BrandonW> They're working on adding other keys.
02:52 < BrandonW> They need some from me.
02:52 < BrandonW> I'm so busy! :(
02:52 <+Michael_V> are the 68k keys done?
02:52 < BrandonW> 0102 and two 68k keys are in the final phase I think.
02:52 < BrandonW> They have polynomials for 02.
02:53 < Tari> anyone submitted this to digg yet?
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02:53 < BrandonW> Let me copypasta the DMCA notice right quickly so it can be out there.
02:53 < BrandonW> I'll get it in some other format later.
02:53 < i_c-Y> stick it on wikipedia too
02:54 < Tari> ooh, wikileaks
02:54 < i_c-Y> or that
02:54 < BrandonW> Gmail apparently is not loading for me for some reason...
02:54 < i_c-Y> are you using standard view?
02:54 < i_c-Y> or the html view?
02:55 < BrandonW> Standard.
02:55 < i_c-Y> that happens to me sometimes
02:55 < BrandonW> It's okay, I printed it out too.
02:55 < BrandonW> In case I'm being attacked by a SWAT team or something.
02:55 < BrandonW> I'm prepared!
02:55 < i_c-Y> :)
02:56 < i_c-Y> SWAT is a bit tacky
02:56 < i_c-Y> id use a hitman
02:56 < TD-Linux> my friend just failed
02:56 < TD-Linux> he has a website based on SQL
02:56 < BrandonW> google.com's not working for me either.
02:56 < TD-Linux> it gave me an error when I tried to login with a weird username
02:56 < BrandonW> Tried in both IE and Chrome.
02:56 < i_c-Y> your dns been pwnd
02:56 < BrandonW> trying another browser...
02:56 < BrandonW> But ticalc.org works.
02:56 < i_c-Y> can you nslookup stuff?
02:56 < drdnar> Strange.
02:56 < TD-Linux> he said that was because he used stripslashes on all input before formatting it into SQL
02:56 < BrandonW> Yes.
02:57 < BrandonW> Google finally loaded but it's ridiculously slow.
02:57 < BrandonW> Maybe Gmail is the same.
02:57 <@_Auron_> lol
02:57 < Tari> http://digg.com/security/TI_calculator_RSA_keys
02:57 < BrandonW> That's funny?
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02:59 < Randomist> Link broke.
02:59 < BrandonW> Why only key 0A?
02:59 < TD-Linux> BrandonW, I'm trying to join the Great Link
02:59 < TD-Linux> aka your boinc team
02:59 < BrandonW> Congratulations, Odo, I guess.
02:59 < Tari> which one, Randomist?
03:00 < BrandonW> I haven't contributed one CPU cycle to the project yet.
03:00 < BrandonW> This is all you guys.
03:00 < BrandonW> You guys made this happen.
03:00 < Randomist> Tari:  Never mind.
03:00 < TD-Linux> Thu 27 Aug 2009 10:00:21 PM CDT|RSA Lattice Sieving|Message from server: GNFS Lattice Siever needs 124.54MB more disk space.  You currently have 66.20 MB available and it needs 190.73 MB.
03:00 < Tari> :)
03:00 < TD-Linux> >:(
03:00 < TD-Linux> that's a lot of disk space
03:01 < BrandonW> I believe they're FTPing files all over the place.
03:01 < BrandonW> I'm not sure how it's working yet.
03:01 < BrandonW> They plan to close it tomorrow I read.
03:01 < TD-Linux> what?
03:02 < BrandonW> Shutting down FTP.
03:02 < BrandonW> Wherever they're doing it.
03:02 < BrandonW> I don't know, you'd have to read on yAronet and all.
03:02 < BrandonW> And translate from French.
03:02 <+Michael_V> le factor
03:03 < TD-Linux> Thu 27 Aug 2009 10:03:12 PM CDT|RSA Lattice Sieving|Message from server: Not sending work - last request too recent: 55 sec
03:03 < BrandonW> http://pastebin.com/m64960f1a Go nuts, people.
03:03 < BrandonW> I probably should've stripped out his contact info, but eh.
03:03 < TD-Linux> GIVE ME WORK, silly boinc >:(
03:03 < BrandonW> Please do strip out his number and stuff if you paste it elsewhere.
03:04 < BrandonW> Somebody do a backup of the ticalc.org third-party OS archive section.
03:04 < BrandonW> Save everything you can.
03:04 < BrandonW> Everything you can think of that might be compromised.
03:04 <+Michael_V> ticalc.org is in Sweden
03:04 < BrandonW> It also links to the United TI thread.
03:04 < BrandonW> Which his notice says is a no-no.
03:04 <+Michael_V> HERBERT FOSTER!
03:04 < BrandonW> I know, it's Sweden, but I'm just saying.
03:04 <+Michael_V> Not him again!
03:04 < BrandonW> Yeah.
03:04 <+Michael_V> He's the guy who threatened me
03:05 < TD-Linux> BrandonW, signing keys != DRM
03:05 < TD-Linux> so therefore DMCA does not apply
03:05 < BrandonW> "I know, it's Sweden, but I'm just saying."
03:05 <+Michael_V> hmm
03:05 <+Michael_V> I don't think links have anything to do with it actually
03:05 <+Michael_V> I thought they were coming after you because you posted the numbers
03:05 <+Michael_V> hmm
03:06 <+Michael_V> well
03:06 <+Michael_V> I guess "providin copies"
03:06 <+Michael_V> *providing
03:06 < BrandonW> That's how I read it.
03:06 < TD-Linux> awesome I'm working on cracking the 89 now
03:06 <+Michael_V> yes...you're right
03:06 <+Michael_V> I didn't see all the and/ors at each step
03:06 <+Michael_V> about either providing or linking
03:06 < BrandonW> "any whole or partial reproduction of and/or disable links to the following:" The factors are on there, and I reproduced that. That's how I interpret it.
03:06 < Merthsoft> hi
03:06 <+Michael_V> but if it were linking I think they'd be dead wrong
03:06 < Randomist> Aren't the TPCA logs still public?
03:06 <+Michael_V> you should call him up :P
03:06 <@_Auron_> no
03:06 <+Michael_V> chat for a while
03:06 <+Michael_V> waste his time
03:07 < drdnar> I don't understand what copyrighted material is being threatened with the keys.
03:07 < BrandonW> I totally would, but I'd slip up and say something retarded and I can't risk it.
03:07 < _Digital> I have the logs made public in my own obscure corner of the internet
03:07 < i_c-Y> you guys wikileaks it?
03:07 < Tari> drdnar, AFAIK it's the circumvention clause that's the trouble here
03:07 < Randomist> You kind of don't want them to see planning going on there.  :P
03:07 < Randomist> @ _Digital 
03:07 < _Digital> http://atlas.selfip.net/%23tcpa/%23tcpa.2009-08-27.log
03:08 < BrandonW> I fail to see how we're circumventing protection on the TI-OS but whatever.
03:08 < BrandonW> Unless erasing it and replacing it with something from scratch counts.
03:08 < Tari> oh, it's right there on line 11
03:08 < BrandonW> But who knows, this guy might consider "TI-83 Plus operating system software" to include the boot code.
03:08 < BrandonW> And we kind of reverse-engineered that to get the number and factor it.
03:09  * _Digital compiles mplayer on his mac
03:09 < i_c-Y> stop confessing to stuff - they're going to use that as ammo
03:09 < i_c-Y> they have agents in here
03:09 < drdnar> We can already modify the OS and certificates. The only thing the keys do is change the hardness from easy to trivial.
03:09 < i_c-Y> the sith has eyes everywhere
03:09 < Tari> so redact this conversation from the logs, duh
03:09 < Randomist> Send the keys off to people that live in Russia and Finland and everywhere they don't give a fuck about DCMA?  (Yo, E-J...)
03:09 < BrandonW> We've dumped the certificates and released patches to ticalc.org for Christ's sakes. If I were TI I'd be very pissed about that more than anything else.
03:09 < BrandonW> This is nonsense.
03:10 < Tari> my vote is for helping (but not visibly) spread the key stuff, then be a good little threatened-person and remove it
03:10 < Tari> but then include links to everything else in your reply :)
03:10 < _Digital> I doubt TI cares that much
03:10 < drdnar> What about mod chips and stuff? Isn't this sorta the same thing?
03:10 < _Digital> the calculators are still too niche
03:11 < Randomist> It's not like he's selling it or anything.
03:11 < Randomist> That would be bad.
03:11 < BrandonW> My reply will be basically "Okay, I took down what I'm assuming you meant is the infringing material, but I have a lot of questions on your stand on this whole thing (...)"
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03:11 <+Michael_V> "An open letter to TI: Dear Mr. Foster, I received your request to take down n=.... from my website."
03:11 < Tari> hah!
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03:12 <+Michael_V> BrandonW: Before you reply, perhaps try to find a lawyer
03:12 <+Michael_V> maybe Lessig from the EFF?
03:12 < Tari> now I need to carry my laptop over to the printer to print this..
03:12 <+Michael_V> perhaps you can do some fun things with TI
03:12 < Randomist> Make it you signature for the e-main.
03:12 < Randomist> * e-mails
03:12 < Tari> OH SNAP
03:12  * Tari does that
03:12 < BrandonW> My manager at work has studied law and he's going to proofread it.
03:12 <+JoeYoung> IT'S JOE
03:12 < Spengo_> NIKKY D:
03:12 <+JoeYoung> YO
03:13 <+JoeYoung> MTGRSS111
03:13 <+JoeYoung> :D
03:13 < Randomist> Yo, Joe.
03:13 <+JoeYoung> sup, Randomist?
03:13 < Randomist> What the deal-io.
03:13 <+JoeYoung> Spriting like crazy
03:13 < TD-Linux> BrandonW, reverse-engineering boot code is not copyright infringement
03:13 <+JoeYoung> I just made an uber-awesome discovery, Randy :O
03:14 < TD-Linux> nor is it in violation of the DMCA
03:14 < TD-Linux> in fact there is an exception for clean-room reverse engineering which is what you did
03:14 < BrandonW> Doing it and getting the number and factoring it may be considered copyright circumvention.
03:14 < BrandonW> I'm not arguing, I think it's nonsense that this is "copyright circumvention" when it's the VALID AND CORRECT WAY of loading an OS.
03:15 < BrandonW> I'm absolutely amazed they don't complain over crap like LinkMan and UnivOS.
03:15 <+JoeYoung> BrandonW having issues with the popo?
03:15 < BrandonW> FLASH UNLOCK EXPLOITS to receive and WRITE THE OS OURSELVES.
03:15 < BrandonW> And they say nothing.
03:15 < _Digital> I doubt TI has it's head stuck up it's ass as much as the RIAA or MPAA does
03:15 <+Michael_V> actually...
03:15 <+Michael_V> I can't really talk much about this but they had a contract with a calculator programmer and violated it
03:15 <+Michael_V> and refused to pay
03:15 < i_c-Y> Michael_V supporting crime? i never thought id see the day
03:15 < Randomist> It's on Google Cache.  :P
03:15 < TD-Linux> BrandonW, I do not believe it is
03:16 <+Michael_V> and then suggested that the programmer was the one who breached the contract
03:16 <+Michael_V> which wasn't true
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03:16 <+Michael_V> and basically told him to go away
03:16 <+JoeYoung> I got to tour the Texas Instruments main office building last Saturday, guys.
03:16 < drdnar> Michael_V, ever play with the flash chip's autoselect commands? 
03:16 < BrandonW> I'm wondering how much outside material is okay to link to (ticalc.org third-party OS archive, DS forum thread on third-party OSes, perhaps links to LinkMan/UnivOS/etc.).
03:16 <+Michael_V> and we're talking about $20000
03:16 < i_c-Y> O_O
03:16 <+Michael_V> drdnar: no
03:16 < i_c-Y> what was the resolution?
03:16 < TD-Linux> BrandonW, another example: wii fakesigning bug
03:16 <+Michael_V> he didn't sue because it would have been too much effort
03:16 <+JoeYoung> :(
03:16 < TD-Linux> aka strncmp()bug
03:17 <+JoeYoung> Nobody loves me.
03:17  * JoeYoung procedes to cutting himself.
03:17 <+Michael_V> make sure you carve both keys in
03:17 < TD-Linux> it let you sign stuff and install whatever you wanted on the Wii
03:17 < TD-Linux> Nintendo was very angry but couldn't sue
03:17 < Randomist> No wonder you got a notice, looking for it on Google pulls up fifty-one thousand results.
03:17 < _Digital> JoeYoung, would you prefer paper or plastic for your body bag?
03:17 < Randomist> @ BrandonW 
03:17 < i_c-Y> Michael_V: so this guy just didnt get paid?
03:17 <+Michael_V> i_c-Y: for part of his work, yes
03:18 < drdnar> On my TI84, they cause the flash chip to echo the lower byte of any address passed to it. Stragely, I get the same effect on the flash debugger.
03:18 < TD-Linux> they could for modchips, warez software, etc but not for the signing which enabled homebrew
03:18 < TD-Linux> or I should say, enabled easy homebrew :)
03:18 < TD-Linux> drdnar, the flash chip is probably multiplexed
03:18 < TD-Linux> lower address lines with data
03:19 < TD-Linux> quite common to reduce pin count, also seen on GBA carts, etc
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03:19 < JoeYoung_> _Digital, paper please. Biodegradeable. That way you can dump me anywhere in an earth friendly fashion.
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03:19 < drdnar> So the mode causes it to send NO data, and the address just bounces back?
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03:20 < drdnar> BrandonW, ask them what they think about adding your own OS keys.
03:21 < BrandonW> They don't want you even reading the certificate, if I mention they did that, I think they would freak.
03:21 < BrandonW> I did that,*
03:22 < BrandonW> I'm suspecting that they're completely clueless about this.
03:22 < BrandonW> And they're just now digging into it.
03:22 < Randomist> Clearly, you should put up all of the certificates, too.
03:22 < drdnar> My calc currently has an obviously fake ID.
03:23 < BrandonW> I'm most definitely still going ahead with the "send me your certificate in the name of research" thing.
03:23 < chronomex> IN THE NAME OF RESEARCH
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03:23 < chronomex> also, hi
03:23 <+JoeYoung_> sup chronomex
03:23 < Randomist> And math.  And science.
03:23 < chronomex> not much, you JoeYoung_?
03:23 < i_c-Y> in the name of science
03:24 <+JoeYoung_> Spriting a lot
03:24 <+JoeYoung_> discover something amazing.
03:24 < chronomex> oh?
03:24 <+JoeYoung_> well, not amazing
03:24 < drdnar> I don't suppose pointing out that all of their apps are signed as freeware will help.
03:24 <+JoeYoung_> but amazing to me
03:24 <+Michael_V> drdnar: Do you take your calculator to bars with that fake ID?
03:25 < drdnar> What? To show off to people?
03:25 < BrandonW> Yes, otherwise it'd look like it was born in 1996.
03:25 <+JoeYoung_> Some gamefreak graphics designer (circa 1994) is one lazy SOB, chronomex
03:25 < drdnar> Er, oh, I get it.
03:25 < chronomex> JoeYoung_: bbialw
03:25 <+JoeYoung_> o_O
03:25 <+JoeYoung_> wat
03:25 < drdnar> Michael: Yeah, the bars keep refusing to sell me apps :(
03:26  * JoeYoung_ googles.
03:26 <+JoeYoung_> That is a retarded acronym, GAWD.
03:26 < BrandonW> Well, I have a really long night ahead of me of writing a response and getting it to my friend to proofread before we both go to bed for work tomorrow morning.
03:26 < BrandonW> Highlight me if you need me.
03:27 < BrandonW> (must be sent by noon tomorrow)
03:27 < drdnar> What time zone do you live in, anyway?
03:27 <+JoeYoung_> Mars Standard Time, apparantly.
03:28 < BrandonW> Eastern.
03:28 < drdnar> Oh, so you just live nocturnally?
03:29 < Tari> http://taricorp.net/media/uploads/pub/rsa.jpg
03:29 < BrandonW> I don't sleep.
03:29  * Tari uploads to flickr
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03:30 < drdnar> Have you tripod?
03:30 < BrandonW> I would really appreciate it if you could blur his phone number.
03:30 < Tari> ah, will do
03:31 < BrandonW> Last thing we want is all of the internet calling this guy.
03:31 < Tari> I'll go ahead and remove most of his contact info
03:32 < BrandonW> But by all means leave mine. :)
03:33 < BrandonW> Might just be my name, not sure.
03:33 < Tari> includes your site, certainly
03:34 < drdnar> I could slap a bitmap header onto this information, tack on some padding, and distribute the data as an image.
03:34 < BrandonW> Do everything you can think of, be creative.
03:34 < BrandonW> Embed it in your signatures, hide it everywhere.
03:35 < BrandonW> Memorize it and recite it on YouTube.
03:35 < Tari> lolcats
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03:36 < drdnar> BrandonW, http://decss.zoy.org/
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03:40 < BrandonW> Every one of us should pick one of those and do it.
03:40 < Tari> http://taricorp.net/media/uploads/pub/rsa.jpg fixed
03:41 < chronomex> stuck at "connecting to remote host taricorp.net"
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03:41 < Tari> that's definitely your problem
03:42 < chronomex> okay
03:42 < chronomex> huh, doesn't work from my home box only
03:42 < BrandonW> Anybody have anything they want me to say in the response?
03:42 < BrandonW> Or not say.
03:43 < chronomex> hm
03:44 <+JoeYoung_> Hey guys, I'm looking for a very specific demotivational poste. does anyone here have a decent knowledge or collection of them?
03:44 <+JoeYoung_> *poster
03:44 < chronomex> I know someone who does
03:44 < chronomex> I can ask him if you describe it
03:44 < BrandonW> Other than the obvious "screw you" and so on.
03:44 < Tari> http://www.flickr.com/photos/taricorp/3863330559/
03:44 <+JoeYoung_> Ok
03:45 <+JoeYoung_> It's a tunnel, actually, but the first poster has a chick in  it and the caption goes something like "look, curtains!"
03:45 < chronomex> okay
03:45 <+JoeYoung_> the rest of the tunnel points out various features of the room
03:46 <+JoeYoung_> the last layer goes something like "move that bitch out of the way, were checking shit out here"
03:46 <+JoeYoung_> *we're
03:46 < chronomex> he's seen it
03:46 < BrandonW> That's a very nice one-page overview, Tari, I think I might do something similar and frame that.
03:46 <+JoeYoung_> awesome
03:47 <+JoeYoung_> is there a link or something? I've been searching for too long
03:47 < chronomex> he says he might not have it in his collection but he's checking
03:47 <+JoeYoung_> kk
03:48 < Tari> ..wow
03:48 < drdnar> Open in your favorite hex editor and enjoy: http://pws.cablespeed.com/tehblueblur/ti83p/keys.bmp
03:49 < Tari> the DNS method for deCSS is amazing
03:49 < drdnar> Just strip the header and padding off.
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03:49 < efneTI92> [Randomist] Keeping it simple with Arch Linux since 2007.
03:50 < chronomex> JoeYoung_: he's not finding it :\
03:50 <+JoeYoung_> aww :(
03:50 <+JoeYoung_> well, tell him thanks for me
03:50 < chronomex> yeah
03:50 < chronomex> done
03:50 < chronomex> and he's gonna keep his eyes out for it
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03:51 < chronomex> he's got the biggest collection of those things of anyone I know
03:51 < millinao> yeah, i have ~60 different dildos
03:51 < chronomex> I have a friend with more
03:52 < millinao> do tell
03:52 < chronomex> he's got a fuckton of dildos
03:52 < chronomex> well maybe not ~60
03:52 < chronomex> but it's more than a whole family can use at a time
03:52 < millinao> i'm more than a little disturbed at the thought of a 
03:52 < i_c-Y> ...
03:52 < millinao> 'whole family' using dildos
03:52 < i_c-Y> you guys are sick.
03:53 < chronomex> 100%!
03:53 < BrandonW> You're the one with the menstrual blood fetish.
03:53 < Tari> hah, I just added some of this stuff to my to-do list
03:53 < millinao> excuse me while I vomit uncontrollably
03:53 < Tari> it reminded me of spaceballs
03:53 < Tari> RSA the movie!  RSA the t-shirt!
03:54 < Tari> etcetc
03:54 < BrandonW> RSA the flame-thrower!
03:54 < BrandonW> The kids love that one.
03:54 < chronomex> woooo
03:54 < Randomist> Ha-ha, "Spaceballs" referenc.
03:54 < chronomex> I found a flamethrower in some bushes in the city a few weeks ago
03:54 < Randomist> * reference
03:54 < chronomex> it was pretty weird
03:54 < BrandonW> I could quote Spaceballs to you by heart here and now, beginning to end.
03:55 < Randomist> I wish I had that kind of memory for things like math.
03:55 < BrandonW> Watching TV sharpens these skills.
03:55 < BrandonW> This is why you should watch it.
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03:56 < Randomist> Books for the win.
03:56 < millinao> i don't know if I can believe that, chronomex
03:56 < chronomex> millinao: believe what?
03:56 < millinao> that you found a flamethrower
03:56 < chronomex> it was all rusted
03:56 < chronomex> but it was totally there
03:56 < Randomist> TV spoon-feeds thinfs into your mind; you actually have to use you mind when you read.
03:56 < Randomist> * things
03:57 < millinao> was it like some home made thing, like a modified super soaker or what
03:57 < chronomex> no
03:57 < chronomex> it was steel iirc
03:57 < BrandonW> So says the person with no memory skills, for TV or math.
03:57 < chronomex> looked like an asphalt torch, actually
03:57 < millinao> randomist, dumb TV maybe
03:59 < millinao> besides, TV has cool stuff too, like nova or some discovery channel
03:59 <+glk> Tulsa has many Art Deco buildings
03:59 < chronomex> BrandonW: should I compose/post a news article on ticalc.org about this, or should I wait?
03:59 < BrandonW> Let me get the response out and my own article on the DMCA notice and so on.
03:59 < chronomex> okay
03:59 < BrandonW> I would imagine it depends on how TI responds to me.
03:59 < chronomex> yeah
03:59 < BrandonW> This absolutely WILL NOT deter me from working on OS2, just so you know.
04:00 < i_c-Y> i hope they dont send a hitman after you :(
04:00 < chronomex> email it to me when you get it, that way I have it and you won't be able to delete if forced later
04:00 < chronomex> i_c-Y: they won't, it's just fucking numbers
04:00 < i_c-Y> grab it off Tari 's website, chronomex 
04:00 < i_c-Y> or the pastebin linked on digg
04:00 < chronomex> link?
04:00 < BrandonW> http://taricorp.net/blog/tags/TI
04:00 < i_c-Y> http://pastebay.com/43023
04:01 < drdnar> Hey, I could use this as an avatar.
04:01 < Tari> haha, do it
04:01 < BrandonW> Even if it's just for me, I WILL make this a t-shirt.
04:01 < chronomex> BrandonW: make one in medium and I'll get it
04:01 < Tari> if I'm inspired tomorrow, I'll work on a nice graphic
04:02 < BrandonW> I'll take orders from everybody, hopefully give it out for free to the people who are nice to me.
04:02 < drdnar> I have DeCSS the bitmap now. It's 62x62px.
04:02 < Tari> and we could easily use something-like-cafepress-but-not-suck to print them
04:02 < BrandonW> I'm imagining #1, newline, large * symbol, newline, #2, and then the same thing for the other key on back.
04:02 < BrandonW> Unless you guys can think of something more creative.
04:02 < chronomex> I'll work on it now
04:02 < Tari> not 'Got RSA?' somewhere?
04:03 < BrandonW> Nah, make it cryptic.
04:03 < BrandonW> Multiplying two gigantor hex numbers will spark curiosity in the right people.
04:04 < BrandonW> Maybe a translucent TI symbol overlaid on the *.
04:05 < BrandonW> Or something.
04:05 < chronomex> hm, interesting
04:05 < chronomex> yeah
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04:06 < BrandonW> Or maybe 83+ XY axes laid diagonally on top of each other.
04:06 < BrandonW> To make a * symbol.
04:07 < BrandonW> I suck at this, but I'm sure you guys will think of something.
04:07 < chronomex> I'm going to try and get 04 and 0A on the same design
04:08 < bsparks> np: Jesus Jones - Right Here, Right Now [0:57-3:09/141kbps]
04:08 < bsparks> song of the day :D
04:08 < Tari> np: Devotchka - Dark Eyes
04:08 < Tari> but aaanyway
04:08 < Spengo_> http://members.arstechnica.com/x/digitali/Arbys_Macht_Fries.jpg
04:08 < chronomex> graphic design requires proper input devices
04:08 < Spengo_> LOL
04:08 < chronomex> LOL
04:09 < Spengo_> maybe I'm going to hell but I'm sorry that's funny
04:09 < BrandonW> You are.
04:09 < bsparks> Spengo_, we all knew you were going to hell
04:09 < chronomex> no, it's all right
04:09 < Spengo_> it's okay
04:10 < Spengo_> heaven is for people who like harps and singing and that sort of thing
04:10 < Spengo_> hell is for the type of people who like pillage and rape and drinking and such
04:10 < Tari> oh, cool
04:10 < Spengo_> not so bad really
04:10 < Tari> Serenity was the first backed-up HD-DVD
04:11 < i_c-Y> i dont see the humor in that, Spengo_ 
04:11  * Randomist stabs YouTube, always banning people.
04:12 < chronomex> BrandonW: is a hex number right- or left-justified?  I'm inserting spaces every 4D and 0x0A's q doesn't divide evenly
04:12 < Tari> prepend as many '0's as you like
04:13 < chronomex> okay
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04:14 < millinao> oh thats terrible spengo
04:14 < Spengo_> http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9137177/New_attack_cracks_common_Wi_Fi_encryption_in_a_minute?taxonomyId=17
04:14 < Spengo_> wpa is ded
04:15 < i_c-Y> not if it uses AES.
04:15 < Randomist> Now to wait for it to get put in Aircrack.
04:16 < millinao> if wpa is dead, then locks with keys are dead too
04:16 < Tari> oh, yeah, that's just TKIP
04:16 < Tari> there was already a decent attack on TKIP
04:16 < i_c-Y> anyhow, usually all you have to d o is be better than eveyrone else around you to prevent attacks, especially if dealing with wardriving.
04:17 < i_c-Y> why go for the house with WEP when theres 10 houses around which have nothing?
04:17 < millinao> linksys ftw
04:17 < Tari> even better, don't broadcast a SSID
04:17 < millinao> yeah, not broadcasting is probably the safest thing to do
04:18  * Randomist has WPA2 AES on his.
04:18 < bsparks> I don't broadcast, I have WPA2
04:18 < i_c-Y> and use mac filtering and stuff.
04:19 < millinao> if you think about it there's absolutely no reason to broadcast, unless you're a business or something
04:19 < bsparks> And I have MAC filtering, yeah
04:19 < bsparks> well, kinda
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04:19 < bsparks> I have MAC _sorting_
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04:19 < bsparks> !k Netham45 HA
04:19 < bsparks> >_>
04:19 < bsparks> damnit
04:19 < i_c-Y> if you're a buisness, and your wireless security is broken, you really shouldnt have it be the end of the world.
04:19 < millinao> !k bsparks kick abuse
04:19 < bsparks> HA!
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04:19 < millinao> wait thats right i'm not registered with the bots currently
04:19 < i_c-Y> !k bsparks test
04:20 < millinao> who wants to help me with that
04:20 < bsparks> I am >_>
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04:20 < bsparks> !k i_c-Y it may happen
04:20 < i_c-Y> !k bsparks im taking you with me bwahahahaha
04:20 < Randomist> !k bsparks Abuse.
04:20 < i_c-Y> !k Randomist you're going down too
04:20 < i_c-Y> !k Netham45 for good measure
04:20 < Randomist> Yep, she's brokue.
04:21 < bsparks> !k DSP_Lord whythefucknot
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04:21 < bsparks> sneaky
04:21 < tev> Apparently, every time Nikky leaves the bots go haywire.
04:21 < millinao> i don't think it's responding to partyline or whatever either
04:21 < i_c-Y> Andy_J: fix it plox
04:22 < i_c-Y> aardy isnt around
04:22 < mokomull> what's broke?
04:22 < chronomex> bots' broke
04:22 < Random1st> The bots are sado-masochistic, and when their master leaves, they want to kill themselves.
04:22 < chronomex> tev: hahaha
04:22 < mokomull> which bot's broke?
04:22 < Random1st> 1986.
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04:23 < Random1st> Damn.
04:23 < Random1st> Smart bot.
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04:23 < bsparks> lol
04:23 < i_c-Y> :(
04:23 < Random1st> C-C-C-Combo breaker!
04:24 < i_c-Y> !k Random1st dodging the draft
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04:24 < millinao> ouch
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04:24 < mokomull> eh fuck it, I'm going to sleep, I couldn't care less
04:24 < bsparks> mwaha
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04:24 < Random1st> i_c-Y:  Pwn't.
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04:25 < chronomex> night mokomull
04:25 < Randomist> "Sweet dreams are made of [calculators]."
04:26 < i_c-Y> my kick was in good humor, Randomist 
04:26 <@E-J> it was one kick too much, kids
04:26 < Randomist> You made E-J turn the car around.
04:27 < BrandonW> I'll kick you all if it happens again.
04:27 < millinao> nah, he just stopped it and gave us a stern talking to
04:28 < i_c-Y> BrandonW: excessive use of !k is as much a part of #tcpa culture as marrying your cousin south of virginia.
04:29 < i_c-Y> is south of virginia*
04:29 < Randomist> Just get you rage out before 2300 CST, and you're good.  :)
04:29 < Randomist> * your
04:29 < BrandonW> Not only is that completely wrong, but I'm offended by you mentioning a state in my general vicinity with such a harsh tone.
04:29 < BrandonW> I'm tempted to kill you right now.
04:30 < millinao> haha, tennessee
04:30 < i_c-Y> haha. 
04:30 < bsparks> do it with a collated screwdriver 
04:30 < Randomist> BrandonW:   Take him on a trip to Finland.  I hear it's only ten years.
04:31 < i_c-Y> BrandonW: fine, would you feel better if i used missisippi or alabama instead of saying south of virginia?
04:31 < i_c-Y> then again they both touch TN.
04:31 < BrandonW> Yeah, nobody cares about Mississippi savages.
04:31 < BrandonW> Or Alabama.
04:32 < i_c-Y> fine then, missisippi and alabama
04:32 < i_c-Y> i have un offended you
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04:33  * Randomist wonders who the dark lord is.
04:33 < BrandonW> Me.
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04:36 < Randomist> Well, between three IRC clients and two operating systems, the nickname-coloring mechanism always gives you some authoritative color like red, that always stands out from anyone elses'...
04:36 < i_c-Y> what color am I?
04:36 < Randomist> Purple.
04:37 < i_c-Y> awesome.
04:37 < Merthsoft> i_c-Y is red for me
04:37 < i_c-Y> :)
04:37 < Merthsoft> BrandonW is some kind of yellow
04:37 < Merthsoft> or orange
04:37 < Merthsoft> i'm color blind i dunno
04:37 < i_c-Y> im the shadow government
04:38 < Randomist> Millinao is lime, bsparks and Merthsoft are hot pink.
04:38 < Randomist> * magenta
04:39 < millinao> merthsoft: xchat?
04:39 < Merthsoft> millinao: yeah
04:39 < millinao> me too
04:39 < chronomex> http://diomedes.phear.cc/~chronomex/0A_and_04_shirt.svg , how does that look?
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04:39 < bsparks> everyone is blue, unless they are joining, then they are green, parting is brown, and if they are hilighting me it's red
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04:40 < Randomist> "Blue, da-ba-dee-da-ba-di."
04:40 < BrandonW> Everyone is black, and joins/parts are green. If I'm highlighted it's red.
04:40 < chronomex> BrandonW: does my font work for you?
04:40 < BrandonW> Merthsoft, like gold? Make everything black and green except me which is gold-like.
04:40 < BrandonW> I can't even open an SVG file.
04:40 < Merthsoft> sure we'll go with gold
04:41 < chronomex> man, really?
04:41 < Merthsoft> once again, color blind
04:41 < chronomex> I'll PNG it
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04:41 < Randomist> Might as well have your IRC client put his name in bold, and capitalize the first letter of pronouns referring to him.
04:42 < chronomex> BrandonW: http://diomedes.phear.cc/~chronomex/0A_and_04_shirt.png
04:42 < BrandonW> Yeah, I don't know.
04:42 < BrandonW> It's not prettyish.
04:42 < chronomex> true
04:42 < chronomex> it's a first go
04:42 < Randomist> Science is not pretty.
04:43 < chronomex> how do you think I should change it
04:43 < chronomex> ?
04:43 < BrandonW> I wonder how involved it would be to arrange it all in the shape of Texas.
04:43 < BrandonW> Or the outer black part of it.
04:43 < Randomist>  ay?
04:43 < Randomist> 2341.02│ Merthsoft: once again, color blind
04:43 < Randomist> Ack.
04:43 < i_c-Y> don't put the TI logo on it
04:44 < BrandonW> Why?
04:44 < BrandonW> Because I might be arrested in the street?
04:44 < i_c-Y> thats just asking for trouble shouldthey somehow ge tserious.
04:44 < Randomist> Then they will bitch.
04:44 < BrandonW> Demand that I take my shirt off?
04:44 < Randomist> About "trademark infringement."
04:44 < chronomex> it's not fair use, for one
04:44 < i_c-Y> BrandonW: nobody would demand that in your case. though if you manage to get a hot chick in one of these shirts... that could lead to that.
04:44 < chronomex> well
04:44 < chronomex> I don't THINK it is
04:45 < Randomist> i_c-Y:  Insert porn music.
04:45 < i_c-Y> no. any porn im going to watch will not involve calculators. or computers. 
04:46 < BrandonW> But it will involve ninjas.
04:46 < Randomist> Ninja porn?
04:46 < BrandonW> Ninja Cheerleaders.
04:46 < BrandonW> Keep up.
04:47 < i_c-Y> that isn't porn
04:47 < BrandonW> No, it's just silly.
04:47 < Randomist> It sounds like sadism.
04:47 < BrandonW> chronomex, I...don't really like any of it.
04:48 < BrandonW> I hate the key names being listed.
04:48 < BrandonW> Anyone can multiply those numbers together and see which modulus it is.
04:48 < chronomex> okay
04:48 < Randomist> O.o
04:48 < chronomex> 1) no names
04:48 < i_c-Y> you could design it into a matrix like shirt
04:48 < chronomex> what else?
04:48 < Randomist> 2348.22��� chronomex: okay
04:48 < BrandonW> I don't want it gay like that.
04:48 < BrandonW> I'm wearing this in public, people.
04:48 < BrandonW> (Matrixy)
04:49 < i_c-Y> nobody would think any less of you.
04:49 < Randomist> Make a slidecase.
04:49 < Randomist> chronomex:  Make it pink.
04:49 < BrandonW> You might hate me for this, but what if it were italicized?
04:49 < Randomist> Ransom-letter style.
04:49 < chronomex> BrandonW: why italic?
04:50 < i_c-Y> cause itd be just gay enough for him to wear in public.
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04:50 < BrandonW> Sure.
04:50 < BrandonW> I don't know, I'm just picturing more plain text on a gray shirt.
04:50 < BrandonW> Not arranged in any neato way.
04:51 < i_c-Y> i was thinking black text on the back of a white shirt
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04:51 < i_c-Y> n= blah, etc. 
04:51 < i_c-Y> just fill the back of a white T shirt
04:51 < BrandonW> That's too obvious.
04:51 < chronomex> reload it
04:52 < chronomex> huh, it didn't change
04:53 < Randomist> Should I draw one?
04:53 < i_c-Y> why dont you arrange it into a square of hex digits , and make each digit a different shade of grey
04:53 < i_c-Y> and put a key on the bottom to decode it
04:53 < chronomex> okay, reload it now
04:53 < BrandonW> Same.
04:53 < BrandonW> Randomist, yes.
04:54 < BrandonW> Be useful for once.
04:54  * Randomist grabs some paper and goes off.
04:54 < chronomex> BrandonW: next change?
04:54 < BrandonW> It hasn't changed still.
04:54 < chronomex> reload it ...
04:54 < BrandonW> I am pounding refresh...
04:54 < chronomex> really? it changed for me.
04:55 < chronomex> italic, no key names
04:55 < chronomex> ?
04:55 < BrandonW> I do not see that.
04:55 < i_c-Y> its italic on my box
04:55 < chronomex> try putting a ? at the end of the url
04:55 < BrandonW> God damn it, QuickTime...
04:55 < i_c-Y> try ctrl f5 or something
04:55 < BrandonW> It took over my associations.
04:55 < chronomex> Y\
04:55 < chronomex> Y\
04:55 < chronomex> :\
04:55 < BrandonW> I used another browser window and I see it.
04:55 < chronomex> okay
04:55 < BrandonW> I almost like that now.
04:55 < chronomex> almost.
04:56 < chronomex> I won't stop until you say "yes I really like that"
04:56 < chronomex> rip it to shreds
04:56 < BrandonW> Have you tried one of TI's fonts?
04:56 < chronomex> ooh, no
04:56 < chronomex> I just picked the first fixed-width one that came up
04:57 < BrandonW> There's something about it being a rectangle that I just don't like.
04:57 < i_c-Y> what about a calculator where the TI logo is?
04:57 < i_c-Y> maybe a cross with a calculator in the middle?
04:58 < chronomex> BrandonW: yeah, I see what you mean
04:58 < chronomex> I don't have the TI fonts installed, and it's my opinion that the vector fonts they provide are shit
04:58 < chronomex> where can I get them?
04:59 < BrandonW> I'm pretty sure they're on ticalc.org.
04:59 < chronomex> oh god I hate fonts on debian
04:59 < BrandonW> Probably in the Windows section.
04:59 < chronomex> okay
04:59 < chronomex> I'll check
04:59 < BrandonW> I want it to just scream "TI" at an overall glance.
04:59 < chronomex> http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/304/30443.html is a bitmap font
04:59 < BrandonW> I feel like some sort of overlay is good.
04:59 < chronomex> aye
05:00 < chronomex> I'l try fading out the TI logo and making it bigger?
05:00 < Randomist> Hm.  What if each hex digit was one of the ANSI colors?
05:00 < i_c-Y> it needs a calculator on it somewhere
05:00 < Randomist> @ BrandonW 
05:00 < i_c-Y> that would probably look a bit too fruity, Randomist . not to mention it probably increases costs.
05:00 < Randomist> Good point.
05:01 < millinao> what about OA on front and 04 on back
05:01 < i_c-Y> chronomex: where the ti is, could you fade it out, and superimpose a shillouette type thing of a TI83+ or something?
05:01 < BrandonW> I'm inclined to find a way to put one key on each side.
05:01 < Randomist> i_c-Y:  On the other hand, you have shirts to appeal to that demographic, too.  :P
05:01 < BrandonW> Same design, just different digits on each side.
05:02 < chronomex> i_c-Y: of course I could, can you get me a SVG of that?
05:02 < chronomex> okay, I'll make a single-key design of some sort
05:03 < i_c-Y> hm. i guess i could try to make one
05:03 < BrandonW> How awful is it to just have a one-line string of each number and some sort of fancy * separating them?
05:03 < chronomex> the digits are really small
05:03 < chronomex> but I'll poke at that
05:04 < BrandonW> Or maybe a fancy way of combining them.
05:04 < BrandonW> Like each digit of the second number is an exponent to the first.
05:04 < BrandonW> Or something, I don't know.
05:05 < BrandonW> I'm the difficult requestor, you people make the magic happen.
05:05 < chronomex> I split it onto five lines for a REASON man
05:05 < chronomex> it's not like 09 F9, this is LONG
05:06 < BrandonW> :(
05:06 < i_c-Y> you also have to keep it sufficiently small  too
05:06 < BrandonW> Maybe you guys could just look at d.
05:06 < BrandonW> That's what's actually required to sign an OS.
05:06 < i_c-Y> i think chronomex's design looks great but the TI logo looks a bit too brazen.
05:07 < chronomex> d is ... hmmmm
05:07 < chronomex> okay
05:07 < BrandonW> It's twice as long, but it's a single number.
05:08 < chronomex> right
05:08 < Randomist> Ooh, I just got an idea of what to draw, but I don't think my rendering skills are up to it.
05:08 < chronomex> it fits in a rectangle without padding, also :)
05:08 < chronomex> <-- rectangle fetish
05:09 < BrandonW> What if you just overlay the outline of a calculator turned sideways over the whole thing?
05:09 < BrandonW> Then you lose the rectangleishness.
05:09 < BrandonW> But it's calculatory.
05:09 < chronomex> yeah
05:09 < chronomex> nice
05:10 < BrandonW> You could even consider it a slidecase.
05:10 < BrandonW> And 83+ style slidecases have a giant + thingy.
05:10 < BrandonW> Even the graph to separate the two digits.
05:10 < BrandonW> Find a picture of it.
05:11 < BrandonW> two sets of digits.*
05:11 < chronomex> I'm going to get some food
05:11 < chronomex> you keep talking
05:11 < BrandonW> I'm liking this idea, it even offsets the two sets of numbers.
05:11 < BrandonW> To make it more edgy.
05:11 < BrandonW> You guys know what I'm talking about?
05:13 < Randomist> In my mind, there is a temple.  When you walk inside, there are stars leading up to this huge statue of some creature.  In front of it is are a TI-83+ and -84+ SE on a stone pedistal.  To either sides of the statue are stone engravements with the $0A key to the left and the $OA key to the right.
05:13 < BrandonW> What happened to "I won't stop until you say 'yes i really like that'"?!
05:13 < Randomist> * stairs
05:13 < BrandonW> Let's keep that...in your mind.
05:13 < BrandonW> A temple has nothing to do with anything.
05:13 < BrandonW> Quit being new agey.
05:13 < BrandonW> This is a calculator.
05:13 < BrandonW> Math.
05:13 < BrandonW> Sciren.
05:13 < BrandonW> Science.*
05:14 < BrandonW> At its core.
05:14 < BrandonW> The essence of knowledge.
05:14 < BrandonW> Right-angles.
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05:14 < BrandonW> I saw it coming.
05:14 < Randomist> Pwn't.
05:14 < BrandonW> That makes me sad. Public logs link?
05:14 < Randomist> 0014.12│-!- BrandonW was kicked from #tcpa by SnowCrash [flood]
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05:14 < i_c-Y> tcpa.calcg.org - click the logs button
05:14 < Randomist> That is all you missed.
05:15 < BrandonW> You idiot, I want the logs from the past several hours.
05:15 < BrandonW> I don't care about what I missed.
05:15 < i_c-Y> http://calcg.org/irclogs/tcpa/2009/tcpa.2009.08.28.txt
05:16 < chronomex> so you want the text flowed in to the slidecase design somehow?
05:16 < BrandonW> Anyway, right angles, clean, sharp cuts yet elegant and curved...
05:16 < chronomex> oh my god I had the most awesome idea just now
05:16 < chronomex> I have access to a 50W industrial laser cutter
05:16 < chronomex> we can mass-produce slidecases
05:16 < BrandonW> With the digits cut into them?!
05:16 < chronomex> YES
05:16 < BrandonW> WE MUST DO IT
05:16 < chronomex> YES
05:17 < Randomist> Someone should set those up so that the bots would have to have seen you before in order to get to the logs.
05:17 < Randomist> Then you don't have to worry about certain people seeing things in the logs.
05:17 < BrandonW> No one cares.
05:17 < chronomex> BrandonW: do you have a picture of a slide case handy for me to template on?
05:18 < BrandonW> chronomex, can you guarantee at least a half dozen or so? I would pay out the nose for a good cut of that.
05:18 < chronomex> dude, send me the slide cases and I'll do it for free
05:18 < BrandonW> I was looking for one, but now Google Images is slowing down.
05:18 < BrandonW> We definitely should be using the graph from the slide case in this.
05:18 < chronomex> yeah
05:20  * Randomist tries to think of something else to draw...
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05:20 < BrandonW> I hate Google right now.
05:20 < efneTI92> [_Auron|G1] We called it Sin.
05:20 < _Auron|G1> why?
05:20 < _Auron|G1> being slow to you?
05:20 < BrandonW> Google Images is slow, yes.
05:20 < _Auron|G1> heh
05:21 < BrandonW> Slow as in 404.
05:21 < Randomist> It's instant for me.
05:21 < _Auron|G1> o.O
05:21 < Randomist> Literally.
05:21 < chronomex> :(
05:21 < BrandonW> Why is this happening to me?!
05:21 < _Auron|G1> conspiracy
05:21 < Randomist> Need better 'tubes?
05:21 < chronomex> 'lubes
05:21 < _Auron|G1> google and ti are bro-hos
05:22 < Randomist> Even over here, I've never heard that word before.  :P
05:22 < _Auron|G1> fuck what is with the channels on freenode, they're dead
05:23 < chronomex> BrandonW: doesn't the 84+/89Ti slide case have no picture, just the TI logo?
05:23 < Randomist> I'm in #ArchLinux and #ArchLinux-Offtopic over there, and those have been working fine for the past few hours.
05:24 < BrandonW> chronomex, yes, but those suck.
05:24 < BrandonW> You want the 83+/SE.
05:24 < BrandonW> And 86.
05:24 < BrandonW> And new-style 82.
05:24 < BrandonW> chronomex: http://datamath.org/Graphing/Images/TI-83PL_SC.jpg
05:24 < Randomist> Make custom slidecases?
05:24 < chronomex> aye, the classic case
05:24 < BrandonW> Best I can do by googling on work VPN and memorizing the URL and running into this room.
05:25 < chronomex> heh, that's all right
05:25 < BrandonW> That sideways, each number in the upper left and lower right somehow...
05:25 < BrandonW> I can see it.
05:25 < Randomist> I can't think of anything without any right-brain-y bias.  What should I draw.
05:29 < i_c-Y> BrandonW: if you try using 74.125.45.100, it doesnt work?
05:29 < BrandonW> Nope.
05:29 < BrandonW> Well, yes, but it's extremely slow.
05:29 < Randomist> PING 74.125.45.100 (74.125.45.100) 56(84) bytes of data.
05:29 < Randomist> 64 bytes from 74.125.45.100: icmp_seq=1 ttl=53 time=65.4 ms
05:29 < Randomist> --- 74.125.45.100 ping statistics ---
05:29 < Randomist> 1 packets transmitted, 1 received, 0% packet loss, time 0ms
05:29 < Randomist> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 65.454/65.454/65.454/0.000 ms
05:29 < Randomist> Eep.
05:30 < BrandonW> I get pings in under 30ms.
05:30  * Randomist wonders if the X clipboard can be disabled per some programs.
05:30 < i_c-Y> its slow in all browsers?
05:31 < BrandonW> Yes.
05:31 < Randomist> Oh, $deity.  My room mate comes back today.  *Facepalms.*
05:31 < i_c-Y> what about google.co.uk or something, BrandonW ?
05:31 < Randomist> Damn, damn, damn, damn, damn.
05:31 < BrandonW> Flying spaghetti monster.
05:31 < i_c-Y> hide the pron.
05:32 < BrandonW> Just as slow, i_c-Y.
05:32 < Randomist> I could not get a room to myself because they got full.  >.<
05:32 < i_c-Y> sucks for you. bwahahahahaha
05:32 < BrandonW> Google wants to hurt me. :(
05:32 < i_c-Y> they're in bed with TI
05:32 < chronomex> clearly
05:32 < _Auron|G1> told you!
05:33 < Randomist> Insert TorrentFreak-eque comment here.
05:33 < _Auron|G1> eque?
05:33 < Randomist> * esque
05:33 < _Auron|G1> is that like equus? 
05:33 < Randomist> This is the Internet -- since when do I spell or grammar?
05:34 < _Auron|G1> SPELL OR GRAMMAR
05:34 < _Auron|G1> lol
05:34 < BrandonW> If you grammar anything or anyone, I'll kill you.
05:34 < _Auron|G1> that should be a motivation pic
05:34 < _Auron|G1> kelsey grammar?
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05:37 < Randomist> "An obsolete part of language in teenage America. Some people blame AIM, others blame TV."
05:37 < Randomist> (Well, it is an evolving language, right?  :P)
05:37 <+sir_lewk> !qfind grammar
05:37 <@efneTI86> No matches
05:37 <+sir_lewk> !qfind grammer
05:37 <@efneTI86> 388:Andy_J: <benryves> Practice safe hex, stick to C programmers! <tr1p1ea> ... there is 'un-safe' hex? <Andy_J> tr1p1ea -- yes <Andy_J> C30000 is unsafe hex :)
05:37 <@efneTI86> 1517:Ox40: <NovaYoshi> I'm less of a creep and more of a programmer who uses his skills for the wrong things...
05:37 <+sir_lewk> bah
05:37 <@efneTI86> 720:aardvarq: <MikeKnoop> I need to work on my grammer. | <aardvarq> Yeah and your spelling.
05:37 <@efneTI86> (Plus 2 more matches: http://tcpa.aardy.net/quotes/?filter=grammer&channel=tcpa&search=search)
05:37 < chronomex> BrandonW: I'm having trouble fitting p nicely without breaking up the word-oriented arrangement, which I really like
05:38 < BrandonW> I think we'll be fighting the word-oriented rectangles with that graph anyway.
05:38 < BrandonW> Aesthetically-speaking.
05:38 < chronomex> FUCK
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05:39 < chronomex> inkscape died :(
05:39 <+sir_lewk> !qsay 1110
05:39 <@efneTI86> 1110: <+Sir_Lewk> I'm on the interwebz, since when do I spell? [Added sjrberg at 2007/11/12 16:46]
05:39 <+sir_lewk> new that sounded familar ;P
05:39 < Randomist> New Car Smell.
05:39 < BrandonW> Just take the upper left corner of the original PNG and put it in the upper left corner of the graph, and the upper right corner of the original PNG and put it in the lower right corner of the graph.
05:39 < BrandonW> One key per side.
05:40 < BrandonW> And see what it looks like.
05:40 < chronomex> I'm almost done sirs
05:40  * Randomist still wonders for something to dra.
05:40 < Randomist> ...w.
05:44 < BrandonW> If this works out, I will mail you slidecases to engrave this on.
05:44 < millinao> best onion in a long time: http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/afterbirthers_demand_to_see
05:45 < chronomex> BrandonW: http://diomedes.phear.cc/~chronomex/0A_shirt.png
05:45 < chronomex> slidecase is for guidance only, of course
05:46 < BrandonW> I hate the "p" and "q". But I could maybe learn to love.
05:47 < Randomist> The curves kind of already make a "P" and a "Q."
05:47 < chronomex> I'm thinking of changing it to " = p" and "q = "
05:47 < chronomex> Randomist: that's what I was inspired by
05:47 < BrandonW> You know, that's not a horrid idea...
05:48 < BrandonW> What if you made the slidecase graph black, and the digits and the "leg" of the p/q (and the "p" part and the "q" part) something else, like blue.
05:48 < chronomex> and of course I could engrave different keys depending on what calculator you will use it with :)
05:48 < BrandonW> I think it would just be ugly on an 84+/SE style case.
05:48 < chronomex> BrandonW: this is going to be cut or engraved, there aren't colors
05:48 < BrandonW> I'm talking t-shirt.
05:48 < chronomex> ah
05:49 < chronomex> I see that, sort of
05:49 < BrandonW> And extend the leg of the q.
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05:49 < BrandonW> Or something, I don't know.
05:49 < chronomex> I'm not seeing it so much right now
05:49 < Randomist> Yay, I finally had a "not horrid" idea.
05:49 < chronomex> I'll work out vectorizing the graph now
05:50 < millinao> haha, programmer art
05:50 < BrandonW> I really kinda like extending the graph lines to accentuate the p- and q-ness of the entire graph.
05:50 < BrandonW> But making it not ugly, like faded.
05:50 < chronomex> yeah
05:50 < chronomex> okay
05:50 <+glk> My url has much ti-89 data, Ask if interested
05:51 < Randomist> Why stop at data for the TI-89, when you can have it all?
05:52 <+glk> I have vast math newsgroup messages
05:53 < chronomex> VASTNESS
05:53 < chronomex> glk: allow me to QUERY your VASTNESS
05:53 <+glk> Not half vast
05:53 < chronomex> shall we PLUMB the DEPTHS?!?
05:54 <+glk> Do not fall into the zeros or climb the poles
05:55 < Randomist> Do not divide the poles by zero.
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05:56 <+glk> 1/oo=0    1/0 is undefined   ti89 logic
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06:03 < chronomex> BrandonW: http://diomedes.phear.cc/~chronomex/0A_shirt.png
06:04 < BrandonW> glk: not to be cruel or anything, but should you happen to die for some reason, do you have some sort of provision in a will or friends and family that would let us know of your untimely demise through IRC or some other fashion?
06:04 < BrandonW> I don't know if I'm feeling it, chronomex. Why can't the left side be extended and wavy like the right side?
06:05 < chronomex> it could, it's just got a different number of words
06:05 < chronomex> I'll poke at it again
06:05 < chronomex> also, the main problem is that it was overlapping the TI logo when I made it any other shape
06:05 < Randomist> BrandonW:  It's our jobs to make sure the DATA lives on.
06:06 < BrandonW> Yes, but how will we know what happens to him?
06:06 < BrandonW> Just wait 2 months of him not coming back?
06:06 < BrandonW> And then call it?
06:09 < chronomex> BrandonW: http://diomedes.phear.cc/~chronomex/0A_shirt.png
06:09 <+glk> I was looking at a 1993 Mac magazine. A one gig drive was $1200. I got a one T drive for $85 recently
06:09 < chronomex> glk: a 1G drive? you overpaid!
06:09 <+glk> I got a 1 T drive for $85
06:10 < chronomex> o
06:10 < chronomex> BrandonW: thoughts?
06:10 < BrandonW> chronomex, yeah, but I absolutely despise p= and q=.
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06:10 < chronomex> the equal signs are unbalanced, too close, and at the wrong height
06:10 < chronomex> do you think I could make them look better, or is it a lost cause?
06:10 < Randomist> glk:  And the Macs, themselves, were in the six thousands of dollars or so.
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06:10 < BrandonW> I think it's a lost cause, especially when the graph itself so naturally resembles them already.
06:10 <+glk> I bought a Mac SE for $1200
06:11 <+glk> It had a small bw screen and a 40 meg HD
06:11 < Randomist> I had an LCII, and survived off of fourty megabytes for the longest time.
06:12 < chronomex> BrandonW: refresh, I removed them
06:12 < BrandonW> I'm starting to feel it now.
06:12 < chronomex> yeah, I'm liking it too
06:12 < BrandonW> Still hating the font, and the graph itself needs help.
06:13 < Randomist> You two sound like rappers, deciding over the beat.
06:13 < chronomex> it's a shitty vectorization, I'm going to get a final version from the front page of a PDF manual
06:13 < BrandonW> It's a good close match, I just mean futzing with it a little.
06:13 < chronomex> but right now let's decide on font
06:14 < BrandonW> I'm not letting go of this p/q graph line thing.
06:14 < Randomist> *Rap beat.*  "Hmm, add a little more bass to that."  "Ohhhh, I'm feelin' it, now!"
06:14 < chronomex> BrandonW: the implicit p and q? yeah, I really like it
06:15 < Randomist> Maybe it was a bad thing that I repaired the theater system of the dudes down the hall.
06:15 < Randomist> And told them how to improve their subwoofer performance.
06:15 < chronomex> BrandonW: the font now is bold-italic, what exactly is wrong with it in your mind?
06:16 < chronomex> it's actually Liberation Mono, thanks freetards!
06:16 < Randomist> chronomex:  I knew I recognized that.
06:16 < Randomist> I thought it was Bitstream Vera Mono for a second.
06:17 < chronomex> and don't you try to foist Courier on me
06:17 < Randomist> Oh, $diety, no.
06:17 < Randomist> Not Courier.
06:18 < tr1p1ea> idea!
06:19 < Randomist> Fixed-width fonts with serifs drive me nuts.
06:19 < Randomist> I don't really know why.
06:19 < tr1p1ea> 128*(x/(z+zc)+xc
06:20 < tr1p1ea> division is a pita
06:20 < Randomist> I should be sleep, now.
06:20 < tr1p1ea> but 128/(z+zc)*x+xc
06:21 < chronomex> BrandonW: ...
06:21 < Randomist> Damn rap music.
06:21 < tr1p1ea> i can precalc 128/z+zc to a table ;>
06:23 < BrandonW> Sorry, pacing around the apartment trying to write this response.
06:23 < BrandonW> The font just doesn't feel calculatory.
06:23 < BrandonW> It's ten digits and six letters, I say take a stab at designing your own based on the bitmaps.
06:23 < BrandonW> If that's remotely possible.
06:23 < tr1p1ea> what font?
06:24 < chronomex> it's more work than I really want to go to
06:25 < chronomex> :P
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06:26 < chronomex> refresh.
06:27 < chronomex> BrandonW: refresh.
06:27 < tr1p1ea> whats this for chronomex?
06:27 < chronomex> tr1p1ea: http://diomedes.phear.cc/~chronomex/0A_shirt.png
06:28 < chronomex> shirt design based on the 83+ signing key
06:28 < chronomex> has to be "calculatory
06:28 < chronomex> "
06:28 < tr1p1ea> ahh lol
06:28 < chronomex> and I don't have a good font installed
06:29 < tr1p1ea> and whats BrandonW on about, the middle feature?
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06:29 < chronomex> on about?
06:30 < chronomex> I'm not parsing that
06:30 < tr1p1ea> what does he not like about it?
06:30 < chronomex> we're working on the font
06:31 < chronomex> I have access to a laser cutter/engraver, so we're thinking of engraving or cutting calculator slide cases
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06:33 < tr1p1ea> nice
06:33  * Randomist cannot spell "your."
06:33 < Randomist> I can in my mind, but I always miss the "R" when I type it.  >.>
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06:37 < Randomist> BrandonW:  If there are enough charaters in you letter, make each one the ANSI color of each digit of the key.  :P
06:37 < Randomist> * your
06:37 < chronomex> Randomist: you're still on that, aren't you?
06:37  * Randomist is bored
06:38 < Randomist> @ù.And I can't sleep because of the rap-fuckers down the hall.
06:38 < tr1p1ea> you could make the wave up of little tiny numbers ?
06:39 < Randomist> I have a remote that controls their system -- I should go turn their sub off.  >;)
06:41 < chronomex> damnit BrandonW, you left me hanging
06:44 < Randomist> Oh, yay, the rap-fuckers have gone quiet.
06:44 < Randomist> Time to sleep now.
06:45 < BrandonW> It's slightly more calculatory.
06:45 < BrandonW> Hey, maybe it should be LED-ish.
06:45 < BrandonW> WarGames-like.
06:45 < BrandonW> It's still not the 83+ font.
06:45 < BrandonW> Like what you would see in TI-Graph Link.
06:45 < chronomex> yeah, I know
06:46 < chronomex> LED-ish?
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06:46 < BrandonW> Google WarGames, because apparenetly I can't.
06:46 < BrandonW> The final launch code at the end.
06:47 < chronomex> http://www.dafont.com/wargames.font this?
06:48 < BrandonW> That's actually quite hideous.
06:48 < BrandonW> You know what I mean, like what you see on a LED clock.
06:49 < BrandonW> I don't even think LED's the right acronym.
06:49 < BrandonW> But 8 lines...
06:49 < BrandonW> That make up all letters and numbers.
06:49 < BrandonW> In the right combination.
06:50 < chronomex> 7-segment display?
06:50 < BrandonW> Yes, that's what I'm getting at.
06:50 < BrandonW> Obviously tired.
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06:52 < chronomex> yeah
06:52 < chronomex> okay
06:57 < chronomex> I don't have a 7seg font
06:58 < chronomex> actually 16-segment for full alphanumeric
06:58 < tr1p1ea> http://www.dafont.com/img/charmap/d/s/ds_digital2.png
06:58 < chronomex> tr1p1ea: that's an approximation, not a true 16-seg font :P
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07:01 < efneTI92> [LordMathi] I'm not a ninja, no idea what you're talking about.
07:01 < tr1p1ea> makes sense
07:01 < tr1p1ea> since i wasnt looking for 16
07:01 < tr1p1ea> http://www.bradlevy.com/software/font16chart.pdf
07:01 < chronomex> perfect
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07:17 < BrandonW> I'm going to attempt to retire.
07:18 < BrandonW> But chronomex, even if you totally butcher it, what you had the last time I dropped in is good enough to be engraved on my slidecase.
07:18 < chronomex> with the dots, or the original font?
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07:23 < BrandonW> Whatever it is at this moment.
07:24 < BrandonW> I'm beginning to think my router has decided to just fail.
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07:26 < chronomex> ah, with the dots then
07:27 < chronomex> I'll look for a better font
07:27 < tr1p1ea> great my pc has just died
07:27 < chronomex> how are you on irc then?
07:28 < BrandonW> Why is my port 80 traffic absolute shit?
07:28 < BrandonW> I can ping everything fine.
07:28 < BrandonW> I'm on IRC fine.
07:29 < chronomex> weird indeed
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07:31 < efneTI92> [_Aur|G1] We called it Sin.
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07:32 < BrandonW_> I've reset my router twice, it's still shit.
07:32 < BrandonW_> Explain it to me.
07:32 < BrandonW_> "ping youtube.com" gets 110ms.
07:33 < BrandonW_> Cannot load the page in a browser.
07:33 < chronomex> weirdomatic
07:33 < BrandonW_> I know it's weird, FIX IT
07:34 < chronomex> WONT
07:34 < BrandonW_> PLEASE
07:34 < chronomex> NO
07:34 < chronomex> did you see the xkcd recently with the flowchart?
07:34 < BrandonW_> I can surf the internet on my work VPN faster than my home PC. Garbage.
07:35 < BrandonW_> I did not.
07:35 < BrandonW_> I would sure love to see it.
07:35 < chronomex> :(
07:35 < chronomex> it's basically a flowchart to "PRESS BUTTONS UNTIL IT WORKS" so that nontech people can become "the expert"
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07:46 < DSP_Lord> BrandonW_: welcome to the past 3 days for me.
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07:47 < BrandonW_> And now a browser window on my work PC is doing the same thing.
07:47 < BrandonW_> What in fucking hell is going on?
07:47 < BrandonW_> Who broke the internet?!
07:47 < BrandonW_> FIX IT AL GORE
07:48 < _Digital> BrandonW_, have you tried rebooting?
07:48 < BrandonW_> The PC? That is not an option on this one.
07:48 < _Digital> chronomex, I printed that and posted it on several of my manager's computers
07:48 < BrandonW_> I've rebooted the router twice.
07:48 < chronomex> _Digital: hah, nice
07:48 < _Digital> PC might be the issue
07:49 < BrandonW_> And my work PC?
07:49 < BrandonW_> AND my laptop?
07:49 < BrandonW_> AND the living room PC?
07:49 < BrandonW_> No.
07:49 < _Digital> well you didn't say that
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07:49 < _Digital> or you did and I missed it in teh buffer
07:49 < BrandonW_> How can I maintain a perfect VPN connection to my work PC sitting in a cubicle 30 minutes away but its browser window WILL NOT LOAD A PAGE?!
07:49 < BrandonW_> And yet pings are fine.
07:49 < _Digital> Windows computer?
07:49 < BrandonW_> Yes.
07:50 < _Digital> virus
07:50 < _Digital> :P
07:50 < _Digital> I would've mentioned a poisoned DNS cache, but ping is workign fine for you
07:51 < BrandonW_> And if DSP_Lord is claiming to have the same issue, I maintain that someone BROKE THE INTERNET
07:51 < BrandonW_> Someone on AIM 5 minutes away claims to have the same issue.
07:51 < _Digital> but DSP_Lord bought a new computer instead of fixing a laptop with a BSOD so I wouldn't give him too much credit
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07:53 < _Digital> my internets are workign fine btw
07:53 < DSP_Lord> hey.
07:53 < DSP_Lord> $200 for fixing or $50 for new.
07:53 < _Digital> but you didn't know how ot do it yourself
07:54 < _Digital> I would've like to see you do a wipe and re-install but iirc you didn't have a disk right?
07:54 < DSP_Lord> nope, sure don't,.
07:55 < DSP_Lord> also i'd like to get the shit off it before doing that.
07:56 < _Digital> have a residential IP crawling my server...
08:00 <@E-J> damn laggy mobile broadband
08:00 < _Digital> on your E90 E-J ?
08:00 < BrandonW_> No, the internet broke.
08:00 <@E-J> or maybe it is just this area (rich people and embassies)
08:01 < _Digital> .5 sec ping BrandonW_ 
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08:02 <@E-J> _Digital: nah i don't it's because of phone
08:04 <@E-J> looked lists of new students at my school, lot of people born at 1990 and some even 1991
08:04 < _Digital> you're gettign old
08:04 <@E-J> yep
08:11 < _Digital> so E-J, apparently you're "moving"
08:18 < chronomex> ah, fuck DEFOMA
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09:00 < tr1p1ea> dont you hate it when you're coding something and people interrupt
09:00 < tr1p1ea> then you cant remember what your train of thought was when they go away
09:00 < tr1p1ea> :S
09:09 < chronomex> tr1p1ea: SO MANY TIMES
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09:34 < efneTI92> [leofox] All we do in hell is play DDR!
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10:08 < tr1p1ea> "More often than not, when someone is telling me a story all I can think about is that I can't wait for them to finish so that I can tell my own story that's not only better, but also more directly involves me."
10:08 < tr1p1ea> lol
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10:45 < efneTI92> [i_c-Y] It's like I'm the last sane person on Earth.
10:49 < i_c-Y> penny arcade has a new layout
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12:09 <@E-J> _Digital: yeah, i was moving, but inside city
12:17 <@E-J> so one would assume that connection works well all the time
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13:16 < tr1p1ea> dont trust people from the city
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13:20 < jr19> hey krisk
13:21 <+krisk> yo
13:21 <+krisk> new phone is niceeeeee
13:21 < jr19> awesome
13:22 <+krisk> the keyboard lights up
13:22 <+krisk> its awesome
13:23 <+krisk> its like a minilaptop
13:23 <+krisk> minimini laptop
13:23 <+krisk> with style
13:23 < jr19> "with style" lulz
13:23 <+krisk> hehe well its  a really pretty phone
13:24 < jr19> is it the same as the one that shows up on the htc site
13:24 < jr19> with the silver keyboard part
13:25 <+krisk> HTC Touch Pro 2
13:25 <+krisk> just as HTC makes it
13:26 < jr19> alright
13:26 < jr19> you said something about two different colors
13:26 < jr19> yesterday
13:26 <+krisk> yeah i thought maybe they had a silver one because i saw the silver backside on some pics
13:26 < jr19> ahh ok
13:27 <+krisk> but its silver all over exccept the front/screen is black
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13:33 < tr1p1ea> O_o
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13:35 < jr19> wtf
13:35 <@E-J> tla
13:36 < jr19> its someones birthday at work today so another lady brought in a bunch of fruit and fruit dips and chips and salsa
13:36 < jr19> the salsa is pretty good, even though its a weird time to be eating it
13:40 < jr19> hmm the chips taste funny though
13:42 < tr1p1ea> laced with poison?
13:42 < jr19> hopefully
13:42 < jr19> might get me out of work
13:45 <+krisk> omnomnom 
13:51 < tr1p1ea> >:\
13:51 < tr1p1ea> why is this not giving me the correct result!
13:51 < tr1p1ea> :XXXXXXXXXXXXX
13:52 <@E-J> bug?
13:52 < tr1p1ea> it appears so
13:52 <@E-J> or feature?
13:53 < tr1p1ea> sadly no, not this one
13:53 < tr1p1ea> since it breaks everything
13:55 < tr1p1ea> hhmm...
13:55 < tr1p1ea> mebbe this is the prob?!
13:55 < jr19> < instead of > ?
14:05 < jr19> girguasdkfjn
14:08 < tr1p1ea> hehe nah an order of operation problem i think
14:20 < jr19> hmm sublime tribute band on saturday
14:29 < jr19> summers last blast tonight and tomorrow also
14:39 < jr19> wtf, i just tried to access a picture of my dog on my mom's picture sharing site and our SonicWall firewall at work said it was "Pornography"
14:47 <+krisk> <jr19> wtf, i just tried to access a picture of my dog on my mom
14:47 <+krisk> thats why
14:47 < jr19> O.o
14:48 < jr19> either way, its annoying
14:52 < jr19> my mom needs to take a computer class
14:52 < jr19> "Okay.  I got the picture saved BUT I clicked on the "email" tab at the top of that page and it is asking for Incoming Mail (POP3 or IMAP)and then it wants some info for Outgoing Mail.  Is there a way to attach the picture to a regular hotmail email???"
15:01 < jr19> now my co-worker is talking about colonoscopies
15:06 < jr19> and now i have to say what tv show i would like to appear on for some game we have during national payroll week
15:06 < jr19> "to catch a predator"
15:21 < tr1p1ea> test of faith ...
15:21 < tr1p1ea> \o/
15:21 < tr1p1ea> oh that is beautiful :)
15:25 < tr1p1ea> who would have thought a rotating dot cube would make me so happy
15:26 < BrandonW> I've removed the 04 and 0A key factors from brandonw.net and posted the DMCA notice (and my reply).
15:26 < BrandonW> And just to reiterate, I of course have to legally comply directly with public requests like that, but I have no intention of ditching this.
15:26 < BrandonW> Or working on third-party OSes.
15:26 < BrandonW> Or signing OSes for anyone who wants it.
15:26 < BrandonW> Or providing the keys.
15:27 < BrandonW> Or information on the entire process.
15:27 < tr1p1ea> :>
15:27 < BrandonW> They could come to my house and verbally and physically threaten me and I still would not back down from this.
15:28 < tr1p1ea> fancy them hitting you with a dmca .... err?
15:28 < BrandonW> The word you're looking for is "notice."
15:28 < tr1p1ea> well, i meant as in
15:29 < tr1p1ea> surely there is some other legal document that would be more appropriate?
15:29 < BrandonW> Yeah, it's absolute nonsense and my reply explains this is anything but circumvention and I've been releasing exploits for years far worse than what this is, so get over it.
15:34 < tr1p1ea> exactly
15:34 < tr1p1ea> this is the cleanest you've ever been as far as os related stuff is concerned :)
15:36 < BrandonW> I would have loved to cite examples, but I didn't want to put more in the warpath.
15:36 < tr1p1ea> :>
15:36 < BrandonW> I did link to ticalc.org's archive of third-party OSes, but seeing as how none of them contain a way to install it on real hardware and that they haven't complained yet, I think it'll be okay.
15:37 < tr1p1ea> i wonder what ti thought when they read their keys were being factored
15:37 < tr1p1ea> wake up in the morning, go to work prepared to sit around and do nothing
15:38 < BrandonW> I wonder how much they actually read.
15:38 < BrandonW> From the community.
15:38 < BrandonW> And we broke the 81 too!
15:38 < tr1p1ea> front page of the news paper "ti key factored"
15:38 < BrandonW> What I wouldn't give to be a fly on the wall.
15:38 < tr1p1ea> lol yeh the 81
15:38 < tr1p1ea> what luck since i bought an 81 off ebay recently
15:38 < BrandonW> ROM version?
15:38 < tr1p1ea> still in transit
15:39 < tr1p1ea> 2 weeks, from US to AU :S
15:39 < BrandonW> Ben seems to be implying there are two revisions, one with 86-style LCD and the other with 82-style LCD.
15:39 < tr1p1ea> im just hoping it functions
15:39 < BrandonW> And branches in the OS.
15:39 < tr1p1ea> i saw datamath was saying that one was similar to the 82 hardware wise
15:40 < BrandonW> Yeah, that would be the latter.
15:40 < BrandonW> I have both 1.6K and V2.00.
15:40 < BrandonW> Theoretically both revisions.
15:41 < tr1p1ea> nice
15:45 < BrandonW> http://www.unitedti.org/index.php?s=&showtopic=8888&view=findpost&p=136011
15:45 < BrandonW> I WILL NOT BE SILENCED
15:47 <+krisk> JE MOEDER
15:49 < jr19> what
15:49 < BrandonW> It just boggles the mind that they would ask me to take down a couple of numbers, but not a potentially-unstable certificate patch utilizing a Flash unlock exploit.
15:49 < jr19> maybe they dont understand what it is
15:50 < BrandonW> Very likely.
15:50 < tr1p1ea> they're idiots
15:51 < BrandonW> Far more likely.
15:53 < mokomull> We've known that one for years.
15:56 < tr1p1ea> "On the night of the 30th of July, FloppusMaximus & BrandonW broke into TI headquarters and stole secret code that enables them to potentially redistribute not only TI's own copyrighted material, but also their own unstable and volatile software causing great distress to TI's multi-billion dollar industry investment. These people are highly trained and act with total disregard and malice towards the law."
15:56 < BrandonW> We must be swift in continuing to spread these keys to all of the internet.
15:56 < BrandonW> Make this DMCA nonsense go away.
15:56 < BrandonW> Anything you can do.
15:56 < BrandonW> Print it out and pass it out even.
15:57 < BrandonW> It needs to spread to places that TI cannot touch.
15:57 < BrandonW> Well-known places that TI cannot touch.
15:57 < tr1p1ea> hhmm...
15:57 < BrandonW> I posted my DMCA notice if it helps.
16:00 <@Andy_J> BrandonW: if they didnt' send it certified, they can't prove you actually got it
16:02 <@Andy_J> what's the bare minimum amount of information needed for the key>??
16:02 <@Andy_J> I'll stick it in my signature on scorehero and not say what it is ;)
16:08 < tr1p1ea> http://diomedes.phear.cc/~chronomex/0A_shirt.png
16:08 <@Andy_J> nice
16:09 <+krisk> at least use a nice font
16:09 < tr1p1ea> that is not mine, it was something they were working on earlier
16:09 < tr1p1ea> and they are using a different font
16:10 < tr1p1ea> just the only place i could remember where the info was
16:10 <+krisk> @thepeoplewhomadeitandapparentlythoughtthesamethingok
16:10 <+krisk> ok cool
16:10 < tr1p1ea> im assuming it reads top down, left to right?
16:10 <@Andy_J> 0A: 0000 9448 9014 C63C C9E1 E1AD B192 DBBD D1F7 8F90 A630 DA9C 86EF C4CB CA44 E5B4 D54D 0001 9D43 1AF2 7942 2962 0B88 4E37 50D6 22D1 C74F 2E45 69DC 1548 6FC8 D5A3 BCDF E2F5
16:10  * Andy_J proofreads
16:12 <@Andy_J> looks good
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16:12 < incubus> Where is Brandonw
16:13 <@Andy_J> ok they'll have to send a DMCA takedown to twitter and facebook now >_>
16:13 <@Andy_J> if they connect the dots
16:14 < incubus> Andy_J, $04 and $0A are dead!
16:19 < BrandonW> They're not dead.
16:19 < BrandonW> It's all good, calm down.
16:20 < BrandonW> Obtain the keys from http://taricorp.net/blog/tags/TI for the moment.
16:20 < BrandonW> I'm working on .key files for direct use with RabbitSign.
16:20 < BrandonW> To further spread.
16:21 < incubus> BrandonW, By dead, I mean they are cracked
16:25 < BrandonW> They're doing final processing on 0102, so this will break the 73 as well.
16:25 < BrandonW> That means every z80 calculator, baby.
16:25 < BrandonW> I'd like to get the date stamp public key to them.
16:25 < BrandonW> I need to find it first of course.
16:26 < incubus> are you on the boinc project?
16:25 < BrandonW> I haven't committed one CPU cylce to it.
16:25 < incubus> :P
16:25 < BrandonW> cycle*
16:26 < incubus> I am now :D
16:26 < BrandonW> Good!
16:26 < BrandonW> Everyone needs to as much as possible.
16:26 < BrandonW> We don't know how much longer it'll be there.
16:26 < BrandonW> We're in the home stretch for the z80 series, but 68k still needs our help.
16:26 < incubus> did the boinc project actually contribute to finding the last cracked key?
16:26 < BrandonW> Yes.
16:26 < incubus> nice
16:26 < incubus> I'm going to go throw it up on my downstairs comp also
16:27 < BrandonW> This is renewing faith in the community for me.
16:27 < BrandonW> Thank you all, and don't stop.
16:27 < incubus> :D
16:27 < incubus> I should make a #tcpa boinc team
16:27 < BrandonW> I think there is one.
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16:27 < incubus> oh
16:27 < incubus> ah you're right
16:29 < incubus> BrandonW, how did this project come about?  Was it done specifically in regards to TI?  or was it a working project that we contributed keys to?
16:29 < BrandonW> TI can send all the DMCA notices they want, but make it known, #tcpa is a haven for this kind of talk and I'll always be here.
16:30 < BrandonW> Benjamin Moody broke the 04 key himself on his own PC in 2-3 months and posted it cryptically, I figured out what it was and exploded, he elaborated on how he did it, and others chimed in and set up a BOINC project to crack more keys.
16:30 < BrandonW> The next most important key at the time was 0A, and they all worked to break it.
16:30 < incubus> nice
16:30 < BrandonW> And now we're on the others, despite yesterday's DMCA notices.
16:30 < incubus> who did they specifically Email
16:30 < incubus> Ben?  The project?  BOINC's creators?
16:31 < BrandonW> They e-mailed me, I don't know how they got to Ben, they might've even threatened him. He's totally silent right now.
16:31 < incubus> shit dude be careful
16:31 < BrandonW> Herbert Foster (the guy who e-mailed me) has a history of intimidating community members.
16:31 < incubus> might have to go underground with this
16:31 < BrandonW> Same guy that told Michael to back off.
16:31 < BrandonW> It's already underground, we're going as fast as we can.
16:31  * incubus sweats
16:31 < BrandonW> I'm distributing keys via e-mail at the moment.
16:32 < incubus> email me a copy?
16:32 < incubus> simplemail@gmail.com
16:32 < BrandonW> I don't have all the keys.
16:32 < BrandonW> Lionel is working on getting them all together.
16:32 < BrandonW> Do you have 010A, did I give that to you?
16:32 < incubus> k
16:32 < incubus> no
16:32 < BrandonW> I don't have the time to rip it out right now.
16:33 < BrandonW> And need it.
16:33 < incubus> don't worry about it
16:33 < BrandonW> Oh yeah, you found it yourself.
16:33 < BrandonW> So you know how to do it.
16:33 < BrandonW> Disassemble _SetupAppPubKey.
16:33 < BrandonW> It's in there.
16:33 < incubus> That was 010A?
16:33 < BrandonW> Both 0104 and 010A (check 0104.key in the flash debugger if you don't know which is which).
16:33 < BrandonW> _SetupOSPubKey contains 0A.
16:34 < BrandonW> And 04.
16:34 < incubus> alright, I got it then
16:34 < BrandonW> It's one of the least important keys, but I want to be thorough.
16:35 < BrandonW> And I'd really like to get a start on the date stamp key.
16:35 < incubus> whoever figured out GNFS lattice is brilliant
16:35 < BrandonW> Look at _SetupDateStampKey or whatever it's called.
16:35 < BrandonW> Combination of Ben and a couple of others, beyond me.
16:36 < incubus> i see
16:39 <+krisk> http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/611991/076f69e6/linux_baby_rocker.html
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16:40 < incubus> LMFAO
16:41 < incubus> then the CD-ROM tray starts burning, catches fire to the string, and the baby goes up in flames
16:45 < jr19> flaming baby?
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16:49 < efneTI92> [_Auron|G1] We called it Sin.
16:52 < BrandonW> I'm glad we now know an easy way to piss them off.
16:52 < BrandonW> We should post it on a new site every Thursday or something.
16:52 < BrandonW> Something they likely read.
16:56 <+krisk> huh wtf why am I on the Michigan State University news mailing list
16:56 < jr19> are you a spartan
16:57 <+krisk> wat
16:58 <+krisk> what was that site with news links everybody on the internet knows aobut?
17:00 < BrandonW> If you're on the internet, why don't you know about it?
17:01 < jr19> digg?
17:01 <+krisk> digg, put it on digg
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17:01 < efneTI92> [sir_lewk] http://www.cs.drexel.edu/~jlg95  I have much DATA in VELOCIRAPTORS AND PHILOSOPH
17:01 <+krisk> BrandonW: I'm asking what it's called, obviously I know about it ;)
17:02 < sir_lewk> hello #tcpa!
17:03 <+krisk> hi mr lewk
17:04 < sir_lewk> http://github.com/jgreco/csgp2/graphs/impact observe the wonders of using git for group projects
17:04 < sir_lewk> jgreco is me, john/ferocanis is one of my groupmembers, nate is the other...
17:04 < sir_lewk> ugh
17:04 < BrandonW> I don't know, Digg? Reddit?
17:06 <+krisk> sir_lewk wouldnt any version control repository statistics system work just fine?
17:07 < incubus> BrandonW, if you suddenly dissapear, I call most of your calcs
17:07 < sir_lewk> yeah
17:07 < sir_lewk> *"wonders of using version control"
17:07 < BrandonW> I'll never disappear.
17:07 < BrandonW> I will outlive you all.
17:08 < sir_lewk> BrandonW will merge with the machines and become immortal
17:08 < incubus> you see a TI-83+ inlaid in his forearm
17:09 <@Andy_J> 12:31:04 < BrandonW> They e-mailed me, I don't know how they got to Ben, they might've even threatened him. He's totally silent right now.
17:10 <@Andy_J> They can't prove you recieved an email.
17:10 < sir_lewk> whoa, shit
17:10 < sir_lewk> is TI getting pissed? :O
17:10 < Nikky> of course not
17:10 < jr19> i heard he's being held in guantanamo bay
17:10 < tr1p1ea> http://www.junemann.nl/maxcoderz/viewtopic.php?f=24&p=66069#p66069 <-- check the sig :)
17:10 < tr1p1ea> (my sig)
17:10 < incubus> your sig figs?
17:11 < sir_lewk> http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/4291/010akey.png nice tr1p1ea
17:11 <@Andy_J> hmm
17:12 < incubus> nice
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17:15 < sir_lewk> ugh, DMCA bastards
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17:45 < incubus> ZoomSqr sucks on ti89 3d mode
17:46 < sir_lewk> oh?
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17:51 <+krisk> the new operation flashpoint game is looking nice
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18:07 <+krisk> hmm if I had a mouse I could run UT99 on my phone
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18:12 < bsparks> do fans have to have 3 wires to be able to have the speed controlled?
18:13 < tr1p1ea> is this in a pc or just in general?
18:13 < bsparks> pc
18:13 < tr1p1ea> in a pc maybe, in general no
18:14 < bsparks> hmm, k
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18:16 < bsparks> maybe the yellow wire is for speed monitoring...
18:17 < bsparks> yeah... damnit
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18:22 <+krisk> cool Warcraft2 for WM
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18:53 < efneTI92> [Randomist] http://wintervenom.mine.nu
18:53  * Randomist waves and ties pillows to his head to block out the rap music.
18:53 <+krisk> goa here
18:55 < Randomist> I've counted.  They've said, "Clean on the inside / Clean on the outside" about sixty-something times, now.
18:56 < Randomist> I don't understand how they can take it.
18:58 < Randomist> Nothing intelligents -- just five-minute lists of the things they have in their cars, their women, their ammunition...
18:58 < Randomist> * -s
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18:59 < efneTI92> [bsparks] http://www.junemann.nl/maxcoderz/images/smilies/grayscale_drifter2.gif Parrot.
19:01 < Randomist> I think I've heard them rip off just about every other song in existance, too.
19:01 < jr19> most rap really does suck
19:01 <+krisk> play goa louder than their stuff
19:02 < bsparks> oh the sound of dying case fans =\
19:02 < _Auron|G1> I FUCKING HATE THIS ECONOMY
19:02 < _Auron|G1> I FUCKING HATE IT HATE IT HATE IT HATE IT!!!!!!!!!
19:02 < bsparks> ._.
19:02 < _Auron|G1> F
19:02 < _Auron|G1> M
19:02 < _Auron|G1> L
19:02 < bsparks> ?
19:03 < Randomist> FFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-
19:03 <+krisk> je moeder
19:04 < jr19> je moeder
19:04 <+krisk> met jouw moeder
19:05 < jr19> fukt jouw moeder
19:05 < bsparks> _Auron|G1, sup?
19:05  * Randomist goes off to buy another amplifier/subwoofer.
19:05 < jr19> i'm weird today
19:05 < _Auron|G1> I got declined from my t-mobile application
19:05 < bsparks> ah
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19:05 < _Auron|G1> I can't get a job ANYWHERE
19:05 < Randomist> I hope I don't blow this one out, too.  >.<
19:05 <+krisk> haha tmobile
19:05 < _Auron|G1> I feel fucking useless
19:05 < jr19> _Auron|G1: not even walmart?
19:05 < bsparks> _Auron|G1, I applied there for almost two years running, and never got a job >_>
19:06 < bsparks> at tmobile that is
19:06 <+krisk> what kind of job at tmobile
19:07 < bsparks> Vous estes tous des idiots. Vraiment! Juste des idiots.
19:07 < bsparks> I think...
19:07 < bsparks> idk :p
19:10 < Spengo> SWEET
19:10 < Spengo> both my new magazine catch AND my new extractor spring came today
19:10  * Spengo goes to break out the tool box
19:10 < Spengo> time to do a bit o' gunsmithin
19:11 < jr19> don't shoot yourself accidentally
19:11 < Spengo> always check the chamber first and keep your finger off the trigger
19:11 < Spengo> jr19, want to know something funny
19:11 < Spengo> look at the oregon department of fish and wildlife firearms incidents pages
19:11 < Spengo> literally half are people shooting themselves in the foot LOL
19:12 < bsparks> I can't see how someone shoots themselves in the foot
19:12 < jr19> that's not surprising
19:12 < bsparks> I understand kinda, but still
19:12 < jr19> my friends dad killed himself via accidental self-inflicted gunshot
19:13 < Randomist> Oh, no, even package maintainers are doing it:  "extra/alltray 0.70-1.1 | Drop's any app in the tray."
19:13 < jr19> obviously doesnt sound very "accidental" but if you saw where the bullet hit, it makes more sense
19:13 <+krisk> when xchat gets attitude
19:13 <+krisk> drop it like its hot
19:13 <+krisk> drop it like its hot
19:13 < Spengo> bsparks, it's rednecks
19:14 < Spengo> with no trigger or muzzle discipline
19:14 < Spengo> usually they are drawing their gun with their finger on the trigger and muzzle sweeping their foot/leg
19:14 < bsparks> fail
19:14 < Spengo> both are big no-nos, but rednecks will be rednecks right
19:16 < bsparks> right
19:17 < jr19> i dont really touch guns
19:17 <+krisk> A blind guys walks by a fish store. He shouts out, "Hel-lo girls!"
19:18 < _Auron|G1> um
19:18 < _Auron|G1> okay.
19:18 < jr19> are you listening to afroman
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19:37 < bsparks> yay I finally know how hot my PCI bay is
19:38 < TheStorm> Thats interesting bsparks...
19:38 < bsparks> well, my mobo is... idk what it's called, I wanna say BTX? Upside down ATX, PCI bay on top. And I only have thermo sensors in one HDD and on my CPU
19:39 < bsparks> so I bought a fan controller with temp monitoring, and stuck one in my PCI bay, and the other somewhere random for now
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19:47 < bsparks> most PC fans are 5v, right?
19:47 < bsparks> or are they 12 ._>
19:47 < _Digital> 12 iirc
19:47 < bsparks> oh... reeeally? :o
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19:47 < bsparks> >_>
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19:51 <+krisk> A man said to the universe, "Sir, I exist."
19:51 <+krisk> "Yes," replied the universe, 'But that has not created in me a sense of obligation."
19:53 < sir_lewk> love that quote :)
20:00 < Merthsoft> bsparks: that video is soooo great
20:01 < bsparks> protonjon is my LP hero :D
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20:11 <@E-J> bsparks: most pc fans? do you mean windows or linux fanatics?
20:11 <@E-J> ...
20:11 < bsparks> ...
20:11 < _Digital> E-J made a funny
20:11 < bsparks> that he did
20:12 <@E-J> puh, post sweat
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20:13 < _Digital> I tried playing back my videos, albeit a TV show or another video I converted, on Android and it stuttered like hell
20:14 < _Digital> why does the video player suck so it cannot even playback 320x240 H.264 and it's processor is supposed to whip that of teh E75?
20:14 <+krisk> is this on a device with hardware rendering?
20:14 < _Digital> no
20:15 <+krisk> well then that + shitty player/os
20:16 <+krisk> my phone can smoothly play 1:1 content @ 800*480
20:22 < _Digital> it should be able to do that, yes
20:22 < _Digital> H.264 or another codec?
20:22 < bsparks> My phone can't play video :( really
20:22 < incubus> http://www.365questions.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/games2.jpg
20:23 < incubus> Did they ask for 2 of the weirdest looking children on the planet, or did they just go find people at the local mental health facility?
20:23 < bsparks> my iPod can put out 1080i >_>
20:24 < jr19> fuck my phone sucks
20:24 < _Digital> incubus, that is mostly due to a bad angle on the photographers point.
20:24 < jr19> you guys make me want to buy a nicer phone
20:24 < incubus> no way
20:24 < incubus> those profiles are hideous
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20:25 <+krisk> youre worse so stop judging
20:26 < incubus> no way
20:26 < _Digital> what profiles?
20:26 < incubus> the sides of their faces
20:27 < _Digital> it's also a top angled profile shot
20:27 < _Digital> most people never have that perspective on them
20:27 <+krisk> and lighting and colours arent helping here either
20:27 < _Digital> unless you're a midget
20:28 < _Digital> sorry, "little person"
20:28 <+krisk> altitudically impaired
20:29 < _Digital> the wors verticly is easier to pronounce
20:30 <+krisk> i just made something up
20:30 < _Digital> I wat to play my 360, but that would kill teh AC and electricity bill by the heat it and my TV produce right now
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20:32 < jr19> you're concerned enough about your electricity bill that you wont play video games?
20:33 < incubus> you call yourself a nerd?!
20:34 < incubus> btw you're all participants on RSA Lattice right? RIGHT?
20:45 < Randomist> My version is simple.
20:46 < Randomist> Wrong channel.
20:47 <+krisk> hey anyone here seen the follow up movie on donnie darko?
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20:49 < jr19> no
20:49 < jr19> i just read it was bad
21:00 < leofox> krisk: you there
21:03 <+krisk> yes
21:03 <+krisk> sir
21:03 <+krisk> leofox
21:03 < leofox> i'm looking for a cool bong
21:03 <+krisk> nice
21:04 < leofox> I might be getting this one
21:04 < leofox> http://www.azarius.net/headshop/bongs/wooden_bongs/bong_bamboo_with_marihuana_leaf/
21:04 < leofox> because it's supposed to not break easily and it's light
21:04 <+krisk> cool
21:04 <+krisk> seems ok to take to other place too
21:05 <+krisk> places
21:07 < sir_lewk> "traveling bong" xD
21:07 < leofox> yeah thats what i want it for
21:07 < leofox> my flatmate has a bong so i can use that
21:07 < leofox> but I kinda want my own so I can take it places
21:08 < sir_lewk> my roommate made a pipe out of a sodacan once, it was pretty cool
21:08 < incubus> looks like a bitch to clean
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21:18 < bsparks> http://photo.ijuln.net/index.php?album=randomcrap&image=GEDC0126.JPG :D
21:19 < incubus> I don't get it
21:19 < incubus> is that a radio?
21:20 < bsparks> nah, two remote temp sensors and fan controls
21:20 <+krisk> ooh you just reminded me to order my new pc/case/stuff
21:20 < incubus> cool
21:24 <+krisk> hmm midtower vs fulltower?
21:25 < bsparks> krisk, go with more than full
21:25 < bsparks> go with 90's server tower
21:25 < bsparks> you know, the like, 4ft tall ones :D
21:25 <+krisk> lawl
21:26 < jr19> that...would be awesome
21:27 < bsparks> I used to have one
21:28 < bsparks> could hold like 20 HDDs etc
21:28 < bsparks> came with an IDE controller board that plugged into 3 PCI slots on whatever mobo you chose etc
21:28 <+krisk> but what about mid vs full
21:28 < bsparks> Is it going on or under your desk?
21:29 <+krisk> next to it
21:29 < bsparks> ok, case modding?
21:29 <+krisk> no
21:29 < bsparks> hmm, full
21:29 < bsparks> more space to work in
21:29 <+krisk> yeah
21:29 < bsparks> less likely to cut yourself
21:29 <+krisk> is it worth 20% higher price though
21:30 < bsparks> Hmm, I think so
21:30 < bsparks> more options for it's lifetime
21:30 <+krisk> yeah
21:30 < bsparks> next case I am getting is full [ on it's side mind you, but still ]
21:30 <+krisk> i guess itll be more of an investment
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21:35 < efneTI92> [_Auron|G1] We called it Sin.
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21:51 <+krisk> woahhh dejavu
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22:01 < bsparks> oh dear
22:01 < bsparks> my new fan makes the proc warmer
22:02 <+krisk> thats why its called a heat fan
22:02 < bsparks> a heat... what?
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22:08 <+krisk> oh yay new season of Psych
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22:09 < efneTI92> [_Auron_] We called it Sin.
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23:32 < Eeems> blah
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23:34 <+krisk> je bent zelf blah
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23:35 < Eeems> raaa?
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23:44 < efneTI92> [chronomex] Come with me to the dork side of the force ...
23:50 < _Digital> this set of benchmarks is coming out quite a bit cleaner. less deviation
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23:57 < _Digital> I wish I had $200 to spare. I want to remove teh IHS from a Q6600 and get a working processor
23:58 <+Netham45> Anyone here familiar with calculating the checksum on a UDP packet?
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