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00:21 < tev> New news on ticalc.org, everybody! Please tell me if there are any corrections, etc. that need to be made; I tried to get this out as quickly as possible.
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00:26 < Tar1> looks good to me, tev
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00:44 <@efneTI92> [DSP_Lord] I'm not a ninja, no idea what you're talking about.
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01:04 <@efneTI92> [Randomist] http://wintervenom.mine.nu
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01:09 <+glk> I was reading a Mac magazine from 1993. A one gig drive was about $1200.
01:09 < j-b-r_> do want
01:10 < j-b-r_> Vintage Macs were popular at one time
01:10 <+glk> I bought a 1T drive for $85
01:10 < bsparks> I used to have an old Lisa HDD >_>
01:12 < chronomex> I have a couple 40M scsi disks
01:12 < chronomex> I've also got an Apple IIsi with a 1G disk and Unix
01:13 < j-b-r_> I have dozens of these old scsi interfaces, and I can't do shit with them
01:13 < j-b-r_> PCI cards for external scsi
01:13 < j-b-r_> so useless to me
01:13 < chronomex> nice
01:13 < bsparks> Fuck iTunes with it's Genius feature >.<
01:13 < chronomex> fuck apple
01:13 < chronomex> and may dogs piss on its mother's grave
01:13 < bsparks> I buy _one_ song, ONE
01:14 < bsparks> and it suggests 6 others
01:14 < bsparks> and you know what, ALL of them are ones I like a lot and don't have >_>
01:14 < chronomex> heh
01:14 < bsparks> fuckibng program tempting me to spend money on music
01:14 < chronomex> it's a GENIUS
01:14 < chronomex> durrr
01:14 < j-b-r_> chronomex: Mother? Would that be NextStep?
01:14 < bsparks> that's older than I am
01:14 < bsparks> j-b-r_, no
01:14 < chronomex> j-b-r_: no, Jobs or something
01:14 < j-b-r_> That isn't the mother
01:14 < chronomex> j-b-r_: anyway, that's OSX's mama
01:14 < chronomex> not Apple's
01:15 < j-b-r_> yeah, well it's the NEW apple's
01:15 < chronomex> no
01:15 < j-b-r_> apple is like a different generation than old apple
01:15 < j-b-r_> Different person in the metaphor IMO
01:15 < bsparks> Apple's mother would probably be Ronald Wayne 
01:16 < j-b-r_> Whozza? Steve Job's Lover?
01:16 < chronomex> nobody could love that bastard
01:18 < bsparks> Ronald Wayne was the 3rd co-founder of Apple, and before it went public in 77, sold his share for $800 back to the steves
01:19 < chronomex> win
01:19 < bsparks> He pussy'd out, thus, he's the mom
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01:50 <@efneTI92> [LordMathi] I'm not a ninja, no idea what you're talking about.
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01:56 <+Netham46> to 1's compliment 101101 and 110011, I'd invert 110011(becoming 001100), add it to 101101, then add 1 to the result, right?
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01:59 <@Andy_J> one's compliment is just bit-flipping
01:59 <@Andy_J> and complements by definition only affect one number, so I have no idea what you're trying to do with two
02:00 <+Netham46> *trying* to calculate the checksum for a UDP packet
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02:04 <+sir_lewk> so uhh, how bought them ASMs on the 81?
02:04 <+sir_lewk> slick shit
02:05 <+sir_lewk> http://www.ticalc.org/archives/news/articles/14/145/145220.html for the unnotified
02:05 <+Netham46> oh, I see what I'm doing...
02:06 <+sir_lewk> !t Welcome to #TCPA | Both 83+/SE (04) and 84+/SE (0A) OS signing keys cracked! http://boinc.unsads.com/rsals/ | calc.org is hiring! /msg V200 for details | ASM on the TI-81!  see ticalc for details | PARTY!!!
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02:06 <+sir_lewk> aww
02:06 < Randomist> !t Welcome to #TCPA | Both 83+/SE (04) and 84+/SE (0A) OS signing keys cracked! http://boinc.unsads.com/rsals/ | calc.org  is hiring! /msg V200 for details | ASM on the TI-81!  see ticalc for details
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02:06  * Randomist stabs the X clipboard.
02:06 <+sir_lewk> there is just way too much awesome news in the TI community right now :O
02:07 <+sir_lewk> it's just cutting it off because it's too long I think
02:07 < BrandonW> We even have news in the queue.
02:07 < BrandonW> ticalc.org hasn't posted about the 0A key yet.
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02:09 <+sir_lewk> we need to beat up some ticalc editors I think
02:09 <+sir_lewk> bbl
02:09 < Ander_> Woah, 0A got cracked fast.
02:09 < BrandonW> A matter of weeks, and now that the BOINC project is stable, the 73 and 68k keys will go by in no time.
02:10 < Randomist> !t Welcome to #TCPA | $04 and $0A keys cracked! http://boinc.unsads.com/rsals/ | calc.org is hiring! Ask V200 for more | Ticalc news:  ASM on the TI-81!
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02:11 < Randomist> There.
02:11 < BrandonW> You would make the key news less cryptic to talk about 81 assembly?
02:11 < BrandonW> more cryptic*
02:11 < Ander_> Woah, file archivers read the comments: I suggested my program be moved, and he did it.
02:11 < BrandonW> ticalc.org file archivers are saints.
02:11 < BrandonW> You should send money to them.
02:12 <+Netham46> lol
02:12 < Ander_> Yeah.
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02:12 < Randomist> BrandonW:  Apparently, people click cryptic things.
02:13 < DrDnar> My stopwatch is now a science program instead of a miscellaneous program.
02:15 < Randomist> They could use it with all that time they spend moving all those quadratic solvers.  :P
02:16 <+DarkLord_> Heh.
02:18 < BrandonW> I think it's better as a miscellaneous program.
02:18 < BrandonW> Randomist, that BOINC page is extremely cryptic, it doesn't at all explain what we're trying to do here or what it's already given us.
02:19 < Randomist> "XXX is a research project that uses Internet-connected computers to do research in XXX."
02:19 < BrandonW> I really need to get back on OS2, but I'd like to make some Android headway first.
02:19 < Randomist> I see your point.
02:19 < BrandonW> And you know, I've yet to find a good free classic version of Tetris in the market.
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02:20 < BrandonW> Merthsoft: classic Tetris on G1. Find it.
02:20 < BrandonW> Oh, and free.
02:20 < Merthsoft> i tried
02:20 < Merthsoft> and failed
02:20 < Merthsoft> we could make it
02:21 < Randomist> Get Auron on that.
02:21 < BrandonW> If he does it, it won't be free.
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02:29 < leofox> oh hi
02:30 < Merthsoft> BrandonW: why don't you make it?
02:30 < leofox> did you guys see the boinc #tcpa team?!
02:31 < BrandonW> You know I've never once made Tetris? Or even looked at the source for it?
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02:31 < BrandonW> Because I'm brand spanking new to Android development, and Java.
02:31 < BrandonW> I made hello world.
02:31 < Merthsoft> We can do it
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02:34 < DrDnar> I thought you hated Java?
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02:35 < BrandonW> I do.
02:35 < DrDnar> And I've a few Tetris clones. Easy to make.
02:35 < DrDnar> Try cloning Puyo Puyo / Mean Bean machine. You need a recursive algorithm.
02:36 < leofox> i like recursion
02:37 < BrandonW> Why is it that people who use Macs are either insane geniuses or total idiots?
02:37 < BrandonW> There's no middle ground...
02:37 < DrDnar> Recursion is a fun as recursion.
02:37 < leofox> BrandonW: because no sane intelligent person would use a Mac
02:38 < leofox> the people that use Macs that I know
02:38 < DrDnar> The geniuses won't put up with crap, and the idiots won't put up with crap.
02:38 < leofox> are either silly artist hipsters
02:38 < leofox> or insane nerds that think it's good because it's a BSD kernel with a premium window manager (actual quote from a Java book I own)
02:39 < DrDnar> They actually published that!?
02:39 < DrDnar> Ha!
02:39 < leofox> well only the BSD kernel etc part
02:40 < leofox> the writer was an insane Mac fan
02:40 < leofox> his introduction to what a port is (as in networking code) was to list all the ports that Windows 95 left open that were exploited by viruses
02:42 < DrDnar> So ports are things that viruses use to infect your computer with? I know, close all ports ever! No more viruses!
02:43 < leofox> only if you use Windows! because Mac is totally perfect
02:43 < DrDnar> If it's in a textbook, it MUST be true!
02:43 < leofox> the book is called Just Java 2 by Van der Linden
02:43 < leofox> find a PDF, the anti-Windows bits arent easy to find but definetely there
02:45 < DrDnar> Yay for backups.
02:46 < DrDnar> They're really handy when you lose a disk.
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02:54 <@efneTI92> [_Auron_] We called it Sin.
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03:08 < BrandonW> I've been fighting this allergies/cold/H1N1 thing all freaking week.
03:08 < BrandonW> And now that I've overdosed on cold medicine, I'm actually starting to get a little relief.
03:08 < BrandonW> I should've thought of that before.
03:09 < BrandonW> Twice the recommended dose every 2-3 hours instead of the normal dose every 4.
03:10 < BrandonW> I might die, but it's okay.
03:12 < Merthsoft> now program
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03:15 < j-b-r_> balmers peak ftw
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03:16  * Randomist is now happy with his tiler, and does a little dance.
03:19 < Spengo\__> oh hey Nikky are you around?
03:19 < Spengo\__> actually guess I'm not lol
03:20 < Spengo\__> brbCHICKENZ
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03:34 <+sir_lewk> Spengo\__ is Nikky?!? :O
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03:36 <@efneTI92> [DSP_Lord] I'm not a ninja, no idea what you're talking about.
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03:41 <@efneTI92> [i_c-Y] It's like I'm the last sane person on Earth.
03:50 < Spengo\__> kback
03:50 < Spengo\__> Nikky around?
03:51 < Spengo\__> Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky 
03:51 < Spengo\__> !qfind mushroom
03:51 <@efneTI86> 1188:chronomex: <Netham45> "Dancing man wearing a horse mask cooks wild mushrooms." | <Netham45> speng0 | <Netham45> the fact you find this shit scares me. | <Speng0> it scares me too to be honest
03:51 <@efneTI86> 1227:Andy_J: <@Nikky> stop hilighting me | <@Andy_J> Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky Nikky [...] Nikky | <@benryves> Mushroom MUSHROOM. | <@Nikky> Die
03:51 <@efneTI86> (All of 2 matches)
03:52 <+sir_lewk> here, I'll get him:
03:52 <+sir_lewk> I LOVE FEDORA
03:52 < Spengo\__> lul
03:55 < Spengo\__> well
03:55 < Spengo\__> sir_lewk will have to do
03:55 < Spengo\__> http://operatorchan.org/test/res/19.html <-- lookit my pretty new bang bang
03:55 <+sir_lewk> nice!
03:56 < i_c-Y> didnt you just get a new gun like a week and a half ago?
03:56 < Spengo\__> well, new to me anyway, it's actually pretty old
03:56 < Spengo\__> well it was last week
03:56 < Spengo\__> but I didn't post it here cuz I forgot
03:56 < Spengo\__> it's a Colt Huntsman, an old school .22lr target pistol that they don't make anymore
03:56 <+sir_lewk> looks pretty slick
03:57 < Spengo\__> ya, it's a nice little plinking gun
03:57 < Spengo\__> shoots .22lr which is super cheap
03:57 < Spengo\__> and since it's also fairly heavy the recoil is practically nothing
03:58 < Spengo\__> would be a nice thing to take backpacking too, a good "oh shit I'm stuck in the woods and don't have any food where are some squirrels" gun
03:59 <+sir_lewk> lol
03:59 <+sir_lewk> I would so love to shoot, spear, and eat a squirrel
03:59 < Spengo\__> scored it for $235, but the market value on these is over $400
04:00 <+sir_lewk> nice
04:00 < Spengo\__> there is one problem with it--broken magazine release, but that's a $25 part and I ordered it immediately, should be here this week sometime
04:01 <+sir_lewk> how do you reload now then?
04:07 < Spengo\__> uh
04:07 < Spengo\__> last weekend when I shot it
04:07 < Spengo\__> I just used it as a single shot pistol
04:07 < Spengo\__> hehe
04:08 < Spengo\__> I tried rubber banding the magazine in, but it didn't work very well
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04:14 < bsparks> I would have rigged a cargo strap somehow lol
04:22 < bsparks> np: Spacehog - In the Meantime [2:60-4:58/256kbps]
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04:22 < bsparks> song of the day for August 27th 2009
04:24 < Spengo\__> hay millinao 
04:24 < millinao> hay
04:24 < Spengo\__> http://operatorchan.org/test/res/19.html
04:24 < millinao> what is this
04:24 < Spengo\__> my new pretty bang bang
04:24 < millinao> nice
04:25 < Spengo\__> it's a Colt Huntsman, an old school .22lr target pistol that they don't make anymore
04:25 < millinao> hey, has anyone in here gone through having severe blue balls before
04:25 < DrDnar> Anyone have a calc they don't mind erasing random data from?
04:25 < bsparks> millinao, why do you ask?
04:26 < millinao> because MY BALLS REALLY HURT
04:26 < millinao> to put it simply
04:26 < bsparks> yeah, it sucks
04:26 < bsparks> You get used to it at some point lol
04:28 < millinao> yeah
04:29 < millinao> damnit, bbl
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04:59 < GW-Basic> Get old man balls, I hear they hurt and sag
05:00 < GW-Basic> have freshly reset calc, if it's nothing to the EEPROM I'm game
05:06 < DrDnar> Is that an offer, GW-Basic?
05:07 < DrDnar> I'd also like to give the chip erase command a try.
05:07 < DrDnar> I
05:07 < DrDnar> I'll name the routine brickCalc.
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05:11 < DrDnar> Though it wouldn't be a true bricking, since I doubt the boot sector would be erased.
05:13 <@_Auron_> ugh I don't wana to get up at 7am
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05:45 < Justme880> hi
05:46 < millinao> ohi
05:47 < GW-Basic> after resoldering the screen to the motherboard, my 85 has been through enough.  would like to put a 1 gig ram chip in it though
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05:56 <+sir_lewk> I... don't think that'd be possible
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06:02 < j-b-r_> There is obv some hardware limit as to how much memory it can actually address
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06:02 < j-b-r_> I don't have any idea what that would be, of course
06:02 < DrDnar> Nobody run this program on your calculator: http://pws.cablespeed.com/tehblueblur/ti83p/rawflash.asm
06:03 < millinao> haha, 1 gig? that's over 100,000 times the amount it has
06:03 < DrDnar> Unless you're willing to test that Erase sector command
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06:54 < GW-Basic> doubt there's a gig of stuff out there to put on it anyways.   too bad can't put some DDR PC-133 in it.
07:02 < GW-Basic> Ok, enough of the fantasy calc stuff.  how do I get polar coord.
07:03 < GW-Basic> (x,y)>POL prints the answer but if I try and reference ANS I get the valuse for X,Y
07:03 < GW-Basic> TI-85 if that makes a difference
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08:30 < tr1p1ea> well when you consider that z80 can only address 64k at a time
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09:27 < tr1p1ea> grrBURGERS
09:27 < tr1p1ea> >:\
09:27 < tr1p1ea> silly math routines
09:27 < _Digital> what is wrong with them>
09:27 < tr1p1ea> the burgers or the math routines?
09:27 < _Digital> former
09:28 < tr1p1ea> well ... they're angry?
09:28 < tr1p1ea> O_o
09:28 < _Digital> must be a culture thing since we eat them over here
09:28 < tr1p1ea> ... maybe thats why they're angry ...
09:28 < tr1p1ea> ?
09:29 < tr1p1ea> hhmm... feel like a burger now?
09:29 < tr1p1ea> *starvatioin sets in*
09:29 < tr1p1ea> tion*
09:29 < _Digital> cooked cow patty with cheese, catchup, pickles et al
09:29 < tr1p1ea> ymu
09:29 < tr1p1ea> frig
09:29 < tr1p1ea> yum*
09:36 < tr1p1ea> err wait .
09:36 < tr1p1ea> O_o
10:32 < tr1p1ea> damn it all
10:33 < tr1p1ea> division is a pita
10:33 < tr1p1ea> at least signed 16x8 is :X
10:36 < BrandonW> DrDnar's eraseSector code doesn't set HL to anything, so that "ld (hl),30h" looks unusual.
10:39 < Nikky> Shut up
10:39 < Nikky> kthx
10:39 < BrandonW> pl0x5
10:39 < Nikky> You guys are up late, damn.
10:39 < BrandonW> Look who's talking.
10:39 < Nikky> Am not.
10:39 < Nikky> It's 12:39
10:39 < Nikky> Middle of the day!
10:40 < tr1p1ea> so are you
10:40 < _Digital> where are you Nikky?
10:40 < BrandonW> Oh that's right, he's in Italy or something.
10:40 < BrandonW> Communist.
10:41 < tr1p1ea> italy, what are you on holidays nikky?
10:43 < tr1p1ea> mm dinner
10:43 < tr1p1ea> now that im refueled i can continue coding
10:47 < Nikky> Studying
10:47 < Nikky> but yeah
10:55 < tr1p1ea> cool
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11:02 <@efneTI92> [Tari] Remember, remember the 5th of November
11:02  * tr1p1ea grumbles
11:02 < tr1p1ea> :\
11:07 < Nikky> ?
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11:09 < _Digital> I just finished adding another degree of autonomy to my server for encoding video
11:10 < _Digital> now it'll scan through the existing folder structure and pull out individual shows that haven't been encoded yet
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11:10 <@efneTI92> [LordMathi] I'm not a ninja, no idea what you're talking about.
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11:10 < _Digital> just need to build in teh math for the encoding time difference between 1080i and 720p shows
11:11 < _Digital> then I'm pretty much fully autonomous
11:11 < _Digital> then I have cleanup from 3 scripts down to 1
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11:15 <@efneTI92> [leofox] All we do in hell is play DDR!
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12:02 < leofox> E-J: A friend of mine was in the university of helsinki computer science room
12:05 < tr1p1ea> hhmm... sintable needs work
12:14 <@E-J> leofox: oh, where? in downtown or in kumpula?
12:30 < leofox> E-J: on a hill near an abandoned train track
12:30 < leofox> it was a commune room or something, pretty cool
12:36 <@E-J> ah, hmm, dunno then where, helsinki university (on where i don't study) is big and diverged and has buildings all around helsinki
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12:45 < tr1p1ea> friggin damnit
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13:30 < Nikky> asswhores
13:33 <@Andy_J> hi Nikky 
13:41 < Nikky> Hi Andy_J 
13:41 < Nikky> How are you?
13:42 <@Andy_J> okay
13:42 <@Andy_J> how are things over yonder?
13:42 < Nikky> Not too shabby
13:43 < Nikky> What about you?
13:43 <@Andy_J> Rainy here, and having a rather slow week at the office
13:43 < Nikky> Fun
13:43 < Nikky> Wanna trade weather?
13:43 < Nikky> It's like 94 and humid as hell
13:44 <@Andy_J> No thanks, we had that last week.
13:44 <@Andy_J> And will probably have it again next week.
13:44 <@Andy_J> or not
13:44 <@Andy_J> only supposed to be 69 on tuesday ... 64 on monday
13:45 <@Andy_J> Going to meet up with some friends from college tomorrow night and maybe saturday, should be fun. Haven't seen most of them in months, at least.
13:45 < Nikky> Nice
13:46 < Nikky> And our apartment doesn't have A/C
13:46 < Nikky> Luckily the library does
13:46 <@Andy_J> ouch
13:46 < Nikky> yeah
13:51 < Nikky> I'm uploading pictures. :)
13:53 < Nikky> ...on a crappy residential network
14:06 < Nikky> posted!
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14:15 < Nikky> go away
14:16 < Nikky> kthx
14:18 <+krisk> yo
14:20 < Nikky> oh yeah, tev 
14:20 < Nikky> I won't be able to archive or do stuff the next month
14:20 < Nikky> but good article :
14:20 < Nikky> :)
14:23 <@E-J> Nikky: are you at old or new continent?
14:24 < Nikky> um
14:24 < Nikky> old
14:24 <@E-J> oh, how goes it, is it a culture shock?
14:25 < Nikky> it's very warm
14:25 <@E-J> ah, mediterranean weather
14:25 < Nikky> si
14:27 <@E-J> and mediterranean people, everyone looks like nicolas
14:27 < Nikky> yes
14:27 < Nikky> very true
14:29 <@E-J> hmm, you uploaded pictures to fb? if so i might take a peak when i get home
14:30 < Nikky> they're on flickr
14:30 <@E-J> ok
14:30 <@Andy_J> link?
14:30 < Nikky> fb would probably be too much effort
14:30 <@E-J> still on bus way home
14:30 < Nikky> http://www.flickr.com/photos/allynfolksjr/sets/72157622034064047/
14:31 < Nikky> The best part is that htis program is like, 11 guys and 24 girls
14:31 < Nikky> so it's just party all the time
14:31 <@Andy_J> nice
14:31 <@E-J> heh
14:31 <@Andy_J> I like those odds
14:33 < Nikky> yeah
14:33 < Nikky> I'm not really looking
14:33 < Nikky> but it's still pretty sweet
14:36 <+krisk> why are there only a few pics with girls on them
14:38 < Nikky> dunno
14:39 <+krisk> they look kinda geeky 
14:39 <+krisk> is this true?
14:41 <@E-J> http://www.flickr.com/photos/allynfolksjr/3862199642/in/set-72157622034064047/ i like the collision traffic sign 
14:41 < Nikky> yes
14:41 < Nikky> we're all law nerds
14:42 <+krisk> nice
14:42 <+krisk> i dont see geeky girls around here
14:42 <+krisk> like ever
14:42 < Nikky> :(
14:42 <+krisk> yeah sad face
14:42 <+krisk> ill look into what college/uni courses have them
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14:42 <@efneTI92> [Netham45] "Rock is overpowered, paper is fine." -Scissors
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14:44 < Nikky> !k Netham45 Netham45 
14:44 < Nikky> dang
14:45 <+Netham45> :(
14:45 < Nikky> :(
14:45 < Nikky> I'm sad too
14:46 <@Andy_J> how's the jetlag?
14:47 < Nikky> gone
14:47 < Nikky> I only slept 3 hours before waking up at 2am for the 6am flight
14:47 < Nikky> and didn't really sleep on the plane before arricing at 8 local time
14:47 < Nikky> I was able to stay up until 2am the next day
14:48 < Nikky> (8am local time)
14:49 <@Andy_J> ouch
14:49 <@Andy_J> you lost what, 9 hours?
14:49 < Nikky> yeah
14:50 < Nikky> I left 6am Tuesday and arrived 8am Wednesday, losing 9 hours and around 15 hours in the air
14:50 < Nikky> *licks*
14:50 <@Andy_J> at least layovers weren't bad, then
14:51 <+Netham45> where'd you go? o.O
14:51 < Nikky> Rome
14:51 <+Netham45> ah
14:51 < Nikky> only 3 hours in ATL
14:51 < Nikky> Which is good, that place sucks.
14:53 <@E-J> when we went to australia, it was so that we left from finland at sunday and arrived on tuesday to sydney
14:53 < Nikky> nice
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14:53 < Nikky> hai Barrett 
14:54 < Nikky> champ
14:54 < Barrett> hai
14:54 < Nikky> how r u
14:54 <@E-J> Nikky: have you already got used to euros?
14:55 < Nikky> eurobucks suck
14:55 < Nikky> latersauce
14:59 < Barrett> You know what's fun?  macbook + other laptop + Ad-hoc network + ssh + say
15:02 <@Andy_J> say is awesome
15:02 < Barrett> http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1133600053970&ref=mf
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15:03 < jr19> wat
15:04 <@Andy_J> wat wat
15:05 < jr19> i didn't know that nikky is in italy
15:06 < Barrett> Nikky, why is katy writing on your wall?
15:07 < BrandonW> Because that's what friends do.
15:07 < BrandonW> Or so I'm told.
15:08 < Barrett> weird
15:08 < jr19> girl friends
15:14 < Nikky> yes
15:14 < Nikky> It's not like we're angry
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15:39 <+krisk> hmm time to choose a new smartphone
15:39 < jr19> i see
15:43 < Barrett> android
15:44 <+krisk> I'm looking at WM, Android, and BBerry phones
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15:44 <+krisk> what is good about android?
15:44 <+krisk> i have no experience with BB and Android
15:45 < leofox> sup kirsk
15:45 <+krisk> yo leofox
15:45 < leofox> there's introduction again here
15:45 <+krisk> im going to goa party in zaandam or denhaag beach in two weeks
15:45 < leofox> big party tonight :D
15:45 < leofox> cool zaandam
15:45 <+krisk> ah nice
15:46 < leofox> two weeks from now I might be going to a party in a kraakpand
15:46 <+krisk> Shut Up and Dance @ den haad beach
15:46 < leofox> from the arty academy
15:46 <+krisk> oh cool
15:46 <+krisk> do they have an online flyer or whatever? site?
15:46 < leofox> dunno
15:46 <+krisk> 8th Trip To Goa @ de kade zaandam
15:47 < leofox> I think they might have myspace
15:47 <+krisk> i guess if the weather is nice ill go to den haag and rent a room for a night
15:47 <+krisk> otherwise, zaandam
15:47 <+krisk> ah cool
15:47 <+krisk> is it in enschede?
15:48 <@E-J> krisk: do they offer all the bb services in holland? because at least here in finland there isn't many bb's sold because those services aren't available
15:48 < leofox> krisk yeah its near the airport
15:48 <+krisk> i dont know, i dont know anything about bb
15:48 < TD-Linux> what about symbian and maemo phones?
15:48 <+krisk> enschede has an airport?
15:48 < leofox> E-J: one of the providers has a bleuberry plan
15:48 <+krisk> maemo ive never heard of, symbian sucks and nokia is overpriced garbage
15:48 < leofox> it's expensive as hell
15:48 <@E-J> leofox: ok
15:48 < leofox> krisk: yeah it's not being used anymore, the airport
15:48 <+krisk> ah
15:49 <@E-J> what about iphone?
15:49 < leofox> IPHONE BITCH
15:49 < leofox> many people here have an iphone
15:49 <+krisk> haha funny E-J
15:49 < leofox> stupid hipsters
15:50 <@E-J> leofox: i have e90, i would never buy a phone with touchscreen only
15:50 <+krisk> yeah im looking at touchschreen + keyboard phones
15:50 <+krisk> blackberries are nice but HUEG
15:50 <+krisk> G1/G2 look kinda useless
15:50 <@E-J> n97 have both but people haven't said any good things about it
15:51 <+krisk> well, nokia & symbian suck
15:51 <@E-J> htc?
15:51 <+krisk> i have htc now very much an option
15:51 <+krisk> but im more looking towards specific models, since i cant buy the whole brand ; )
15:52 <+krisk> if it has WM then im sure its awesome, bberry and android ill have to look into
15:52 <+krisk> stuff i dont even know about is interesting too
15:53 <@E-J> dunno about those much, htc have good site though
15:53 <+krisk> yeah
15:53 <@E-J> wouldn't buy winmo phone myself
15:53 <+krisk> why not
15:54 <@E-J> dunno, somehow just windows in mobile phone wouldn't be my cup of tea, one thing for sure is that you can't change system language
15:55 <+krisk> ok, what do you have?
15:55 <@E-J> but then again i come from nokialand etc :)
15:55 <@E-J> nokia e90 communicator
15:55 <+krisk> ah ok
15:56 <+krisk> i really want to play with bberry android and that maemowhatever thing
15:56 <+krisk> see what the OSes are like
15:57 <+krisk> htc touch pro 2 looks nice
15:58 <+krisk> htc's naming is confusing to me though
15:59 <@E-J> well, nokia is recycling names
15:59 <@E-J> there are already 2 different phones with name 6210
16:01 <@E-J> and i also dislike the think that model names aren't shown at phones (not only nokia's), people keep calling to lost property office: "hello i lost my phone, it was black nokia, don't know the model, it has minney mouse sticker at back of it, have you found it?"
16:02 <+krisk> yeah thats dumb
16:02 <@E-J> and all we put to computer is brand, model, imei and which sim is in it and sim's number
16:02 <+krisk> also, a phone with compas and movement sensors would be great
16:02 <+krisk> for reality augmentation apps
16:03 <@E-J> i think icrap has some movement sensors
16:03 <+krisk> yeah ifail is not an option
16:03 <+krisk> g1 has a compass in it
16:04 <+krisk> and htc magic
16:04 <+krisk> http://www.phoneblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/layar.jpg
16:04 <+krisk> thats what i want to run
16:06 <+krisk> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oc3zt7xlUHs&feature=player_embedded
16:06 <+krisk> haha wat
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16:32 < GokuSS4`o> hi
16:32 < GokuSS4`o> hi?
16:33 < Tari> o/
16:33 <+krisk> uhuh
16:40 < GokuSS4`o> german here?
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16:43 <+krisk> I am thinking HTC Touch Pro 2
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16:51 < jr19> what OS does that run
16:51 <+krisk> WM, soon to be upgraded to 6.5
16:53 < jr19> hm.
16:54 <+krisk> 480x800 pixels
16:54 <+krisk> woo
16:54 <+krisk> keyboard woo
16:54 < TD-Linux> whoa
16:54 < TD-Linux> is the iphone even 480x800?
16:54 <+krisk> haha iphone sucks
16:55 < jr19> iphail
16:56 <@Andy_J> 320x480
16:57 < Nikky> haha, iphone
16:57 < Nikky> lulz
16:58 < GokuSS4`o> i need a calc for school
16:58 < GokuSS4`o> which can you suggest
16:58 < GokuSS4`o> but withous CAS
16:59 < GokuSS4`o> iGren
16:59 < Tari> 83+ or 84+
16:59 < Tari> http://taricorp.net/media/uploads/pub/exia_torso.jpg
16:59 < GokuSS4`o> nspire?
16:59 < GokuSS4`o> not?
16:59 < Tari> don't get the Nspire
16:59 < Tari> it's pretty terrible
17:00 < GokuSS4`o> and ti-86?
17:00 <@Andy_J> outdated
17:00 < GokuSS4`o> yes, but isn't it better?
17:00 < GokuSS4`o> i can get it for 10€
17:00 <@Andy_J> not really
17:00 < GokuSS4`o> and ti-84 for 40€
17:00 < GokuSS4`o> good
17:00 < GokuSS4`o> ti-84 silver edition
17:01 < GokuSS4`o> or doesn't matter?
17:01 < GokuSS4`o> more space?
17:01 <@E-J> 86 ftw
17:02 <@E-J> bought it 11 years ago, still kicking
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17:03 < GokuSS4`o> heh
17:03 < GokuSS4`o> how much?
17:04 <@E-J> how much what? i'm not going to sell it
17:04 < GokuSS4`o> 11 years ago
17:04 < GokuSS4`o> i mean :)
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17:05 <@E-J> and don't remember the price, it was some hundred finnish markkas
17:05 < GokuSS4`o> markkas?
17:05 < GokuSS4`o> LaughingOutLoud
17:05 <@Andy_J> Please don't use colors.
17:06 < GokuSS4`o> sorry
17:06 < GokuSS4`o> that was automaticly
17:06 <+krisk> LOL!
17:06 < Nikky> wow
17:06 < GokuSS4`o> (19:06:32) [Nikky VERSION]
17:07 < GokuSS4`o> he reads all time all messages and doesn't say something :D
17:08 < jr19> holy smokes
17:08 < Nikky> ?
17:08 < jr19> thats a lot of information from a ctcp version
17:08 < Nikky> yeah
17:08 < Nikky> holy crap
17:09 < Tari> yarly
17:08 <@E-J> i like my ctcp version
17:08 < GokuSS4`o> ?¿?
17:09 < GokuSS4`o> Nyt on alla irssi v0.8.12 joka pyörii Linux x86_64 -käyttiksessä
17:09 < jr19> that script = fail
17:09 < GokuSS4`o> i like
17:09 <@E-J> also colours = fail
17:09 < GokuSS4`o> no
17:09 < GokuSS4`o> bot
17:09 < GokuSS4`o> not
17:10 <@E-J> also if you use them more, we have to kick you away
17:15 < Nikky> yeah
17:18 < i_c-Y> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qsWFFuYZYI&feature=player_embedded
17:23 < jr19> anybody who puts the lyrics to "i got a feeling" by black eyed peas in their facebook status deserves to be shot.
17:23 < i_c-Y> anyone who uses facebook deserves to be shot
17:23 < GokuSS4`o> «E-J» cu, no more questions
17:23 < jr19> i dont see a problem with using facebook
17:24 <+krisk> haha privacy laws
17:24 < i_c-Y> !k GokuSS4`o colors
17:24 < jr19> sometimes its just an easy way to keep in touch with old friends
17:24 <+krisk> facebook is evil
17:24 < i_c-Y> oh fuck off efneTI86
17:24 < GokuSS4`o> see you
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17:24 <+krisk> haha german
17:24 < jr19> what does his quit message mean in english
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17:24 <+krisk> take your time.. and then life!
17:25 < jr19> ok
17:25 < jr19> the game of Life
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17:26 <@efneTI92> [Randomist] Keeping it simple with Arch Linux since 2007.
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17:28 <+krisk> nice! 25% student discount on mobile phone subscriptions
17:28 < jr19> you have you change your greeting now that you are a windows 7 addict
17:29 <+krisk> 30 euro subscription + unlimited internets + htc touch pro 2 -> 26 euro / month
17:29 <+krisk> huh what?
17:29 < jr19> i was talking to Randomist 
17:29 <+krisk> oh
17:29 < jr19> must be nice, 26 euro a month for that
17:29 <+krisk> whats his greet?
17:29 <+krisk> yeah im gonna head into town and get it right now
17:30 <+krisk> my current retarded fail plan ends monday
17:30 < jr19> good luck
17:30 <+krisk> fuckers are charging me 100-200 a month now
17:30 < jr19> 12:00 <@efneTI92> [Randomist] Keeping it simple with Arch Linux since 2007.
17:30 < jr19> whatever those are called
17:30 <+krisk> haha arch
17:30 <+krisk> brb buying phone
17:31 < Nikky> kk
17:36 < leofox> lol i read brb buying iphone
17:38 < jr19> dogshit weather today
17:41 < jr19> feels like i live in seattle
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18:02 < i_c-Y> what year was rock me amadeus, 1985?
18:04 < Tari> 1986
18:06 < i_c-Y> catchy as hell song :)
18:11 < i_c-Y> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0snDGTcYOyk&feature=related
18:14 < leofox> did he die '. '
18:15 < i_c-Y> like 10 + years ago i think
18:17 < leofox> lol
18:21 < i_c-Y> its just a very catchy song
18:22 < i_c-Y> sturmgeist's cover is less catchy but still good
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18:48 < TheStorm> !t Back to School #TCPA | $04 and $0A keys cracked! http://boinc.unsads.com/rsals/ | calc.org is hiring! Ask V200 for more | Ticalc news:  ASM on the TI-81!
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18:48 < Nikky> wtf
18:48 < TheStorm> what?
18:51 < TheStorm> !t Back to School #TCPA | $04 and $0A keys cracked! http://boinc.unsads.com/rsals/ | calc.org is hiring! Ask V200 for more | Ticalc news:  ASM on the TI-81!
18:52 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v TheStorm] by efneTI89
18:54 < i_c-Y> TheStorm: do you see an efneTI86?
18:54 <+TheStorm> Yeah I just noticed that
18:54 <+TheStorm> I wasn't sure which bot did topics, then I looked at the topic from when I joined
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19:03 < BrandonW> TI sent me a DMCA notice!
19:03 < BrandonW> They are taking down the keys!
19:03 < BrandonW> I have no intention of complying!
19:03 < BrandonW> Pass it on.
19:03 <@Andy_J> really?
19:04 <@Andy_J> quick, make T-shirts
19:06 <+krisk> what are their grounds?
19:06 <@Andy_J> from a legal standpoint, they have every right to use DMCA to take it down
19:06 <+krisk> why?
19:06 <@Andy_J> because this is exactly what the DMCA is supposed to protect?
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19:06 < jr19> krisk: did you get the phone
19:06 <@Andy_J> Doesn't mean the DMCA is fair
19:07 <+krisk> no they didnt have it in store but the salesguy said there were 2 in the webshop's stock so i hurried back home and just ordered it via the website
19:07 <+krisk> i was in time to get it tomorrow and should be called any minute now to confirm my personal info
19:07 <+krisk> Andy_J: what is dmca for then?
19:08 <@Andy_J> ... preventing this kind of circumvention
19:08 <+krisk> ah ok
19:08 < i_c-Y> fuck the dmca
19:08 <@Andy_J> ^
19:08 < i_c-Y> and fuck the police
19:08 <+krisk> im reading up on this phone and its absolutely awesome
19:08 < chronomex> dmca is for large companies to make small companies spend all their money on compliance
19:08 <+krisk> i havent been excited about getting a new phone in many years
19:08 <+krisk> but i am now
19:09 < jr19> i like new phones with new features
19:09 < jr19> i'm looking forward to getting one later this year
19:09 <+krisk> i hope when the dude calls me i can ask him to change the order to a silver one
19:09 <+krisk> didnt see they had those instead of black
19:10 <+krisk> or the bottom is silver or something.. eh idk
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19:16 < jr19> interesting
19:19 < jr19> i want a true smartphone...my current phone sucks
19:26 <+krisk> they better call...
19:30 <+krisk> http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/foto/d3a24451_vega.jpg
19:30 <+krisk> haha
19:31 < TD-Linux> BrandonW, is it a cookie-cutter DMCA?
19:31 < TD-Linux> pastebin it!
19:32 < TD-Linux> BrandonW, I don't have enough disk space free to join the BOINC project :(
19:40 < leofox> krisk: nice :P
19:41 < leofox> TD-Linux: how can you not have enough space? boinc is tiny and the work doesnt take up much space too
19:42 < leofox> i think boinc is taking up 4MB or so here
19:42 < i_c-Y> the base requirements are tiny
19:43 < i_c-Y> but projects can impose thier own additionaly requirements.
19:43 < leofox> i_c-Y: I know
19:43 < leofox> but this RSA project doesnt really
19:49 < Nikky> SHUT UP
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19:51 < i_c-Y> and he's back in
19:51 < i_c-Y> 3
19:51 < i_c-Y> 2
19:51 < i_c-Y> 1
19:51 < i_c-Y> HAHAHA HE never left.
19:53 <+patz2009> !qfind mushroom mushroom
19:54 <+patz2009> gah, stupid 86 not being here =[
19:54 < i_c-Y> http://tcpa.aardy.net/quotes/ doesnt work either
19:55 < i_c-Y> V200: you need to mirror the quotes
19:59 < TD-Linux> leofox, it says I need to free 144MB more disk space to run the RSA cracker
20:00 < i_c-Y> maybe you need a bigger HD.
20:00 < i_c-Y> or to delete some of that pron
20:00 <+patz2009> or archive some shit
20:02 < i_c-Y> or switch to windows
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20:03 < jr19> ha
20:04 <+krisk> so heard you can unlock AMD X2 Phenoms 550 to get 4 cores
20:04 <+krisk> *so I
20:04 < jr19> i never heard that
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20:05 < jr19> is that what processor you have
20:05 <+krisk> no im putting together a new rig
20:05 <+krisk> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obwXswBDQcU
20:06 <+krisk> nice, 400mm fan in the side of that case
20:06 <+krisk> WANT
20:07 < i_c-Y> jr19: its old news - essentially, everything is fabbed as a quadcore and then extra cores (usually bad ones) are disabled and are sold as the lower product ranges.
20:08 < i_c-Y> but they aren't physically disconected
20:08 <+krisk> yeah, but finding out theres a way to re-enable them is nice
20:08 <+krisk> so i think ill get that cpu and try my luck
20:08 < i_c-Y> so in a few motherboards the adv. clock calibratoin can let you enable them
20:08 < jr19> i see
20:08 <+krisk> its basically a 70 euro discount on a phenom quad, if youre lucky
20:08 < jr19> that nokia n900 looks neat
20:08 < i_c-Y> that it does.
20:09 < i_c-Y> personally i dont think id get a rig that isn't core i7 now.
20:09 <+krisk> icy what do you think of that case? (Tacens Sagitta 2)
20:10 < i_c-Y> youtube video wont load
20:10 < i_c-Y> okay it just started
20:11 < i_c-Y> the huge fan looks to be just a gimmick so far.
20:12 <+krisk> yeah
20:12 <+krisk> i like it though
20:12 < i_c-Y> if i wanted a lot of fans id rather go with an antec 1200 or something.
20:12 <+krisk> its not extremely priced but it is a tad bit more expensive than say sharkoon rebel 12 eco
20:12 <+krisk> i'd rather not have a lot of fans
20:12 <+krisk> do you think that single big fan will be quiet?
20:13 < jr19> i'd sort of like to build a new computer
20:13 < jr19> but i dont have the money right now :\
20:13 < i_c-Y> bigger fans are more quiet per airflow, but a lot of the noise depends on teh fan model itself. eg. 80 mm tornado vs 80mm panaflo.
20:14 < i_c-Y> the latter outputs half as much air as the former though roughly.
20:14 <+krisk> fair enough
20:14 <+krisk> haha i saw a blueray drive for 80 euro and i thought hmm might be a nice idea then i remembered blueray disks are 10000s of euros and i just download movies before theyre even released here in urop anyway
20:15 < i_c-Y> the tacens sagitta 2 looks awkward - esp the hd placing and the psu placing 
20:15 <+krisk> ?
20:15 < i_c-Y> probably puts a lot of dust in the case too
20:15 <+krisk> i read that the hd placing is a bit close to the mobo for ide but sata is fine
20:15 <+krisk> im used to awkward psu placing, i prefer the low
20:16 <+krisk> or do you see a problem with it?
20:16 < i_c-Y> the P182 and P183 are pretty quiet
20:16 < i_c-Y> i dont see how their placing makes sense.
20:17 <+krisk> p-138 is 20 euro more expensive
20:17 <+krisk> and will need more fans
20:18 <+krisk> and id like a bigtower this time so i wont have to fiddle with everything
20:18 <+krisk> as an investment
20:18 < i_c-Y> you wnat a full tower or osmething?
20:19 <+krisk> if by full tower you mean bigger than midi tower then yes
20:21 < i_c-Y> why htough
20:22 <+krisk> i always end up getting awkward mainboards or really offensive cable management
20:22 <+krisk> or both
20:22 <+krisk> especially with nonstock cpu/gpu coolers
20:22 <+krisk> my current case is filled up with hdd/power cables
20:23 <+krisk> Cooler Master RealPower M620 is nice right?
20:26 < i_c-Y> my current favorites are the PP&C Silencer and the Corsairs.
20:26 <+krisk> hmm
20:26 <+krisk> im looking at slightly cheaper
20:27 < jr19> i7 extreme is spensive
20:27 < i_c-Y> yeah, but the i7 920 is a pretty good buy
20:28 <+krisk> i dont need that power anyway
20:28 < jr19> looking at that processor still makes me feel poor
20:29 < i_c-Y> anyhow, i know a few people with cooler master psu's , they're alright. 
20:30 < i_c-Y> the core i5 has been sold already (though still waiting on P55 mobos)
20:30 < jr19> i bought an ocz
20:30 < jr19> and then my video card died
20:30 <+krisk> hmm there seems to be a 720watt tacens psu, i guess ill get that to go along with the case
20:32 < i_c-Y> ive never even heard of tacens.
20:32 <+krisk> me neither
20:32 < i_c-Y> and note that wattage isnt all you need to consider.
20:32 < i_c-Y> and i wouldnt go with a no name psu
20:32 <+krisk> i know
20:33 <+krisk> i think that case is neat though, and for that price theyll be better than anything i'd normally get anyway
20:35 < jr19> krisk: link?
20:35 <+krisk> to..?
20:35 < jr19> case
20:36 <+krisk> https://www.alternate.nl/html/product/Behuizingen_Big_Tower/Tacens/Sagitta_II_Tower/-1073385/?
20:36 < jr19> or name of it, i wasn't paying attention well
20:36 <+krisk> Tacens Sagitta 2
20:36 <+krisk> PSU: Tacens Radix III 720
20:36 < jr19> looks like a box fan kinda
20:36 <+krisk> CPU: Phenom 2 x2 550 black edition
20:36 < jr19> lots of space for things
20:36 < leofox> is tacens the hot new shit now?
20:36 <+krisk> idk leofox i just like the case
20:37 <+krisk> i like slightly different things
20:37 < leofox> antec is still the best
20:37 <+krisk> finding something unique adds value for me
20:37 < leofox> it does look different than most others
20:37 <+krisk> its not like itll break in half when i press the power button or something
20:37 < leofox> the fan makes it cool
20:37 <+krisk> leofox it has a 40cm side fan
20:37 <+krisk> yeah
20:38 < jr19> who uses the power button on their computer ever?
20:38 < leofox> check out the antec skeleton though
20:38 <+krisk> i think its awesome
20:38 < leofox> that one is uniqueness
20:38 < jr19> except for the first time you turn it on
20:38 <+krisk> oh yeah and cpu cooler: Ninja Mini Revb
20:38 < leofox> jr19: normal people turn their computers off sometimes
20:39 < jr19> oh
20:39 <+krisk> hmm soundcard, i need cheap, optical output, and good drivers
20:39 < leofox> stupid opera
20:39 < leofox> the more mail I mark as spam
20:40 < leofox> the more it seems to be moving to my inbox
20:44 < jr19> unfortunate
20:49 < jr19> hmm i think i should move my weights into my kid's room
20:49 <+krisk> get him hueg
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20:54 < jr19> well..not for him
20:54 < jr19> not yet anyway
20:55 <+krisk> hmm its a shame asrock mb's are so ugly
20:55 < jr19> why does it matter what they look like
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20:59 <+krisk> well if you had two identical mb's except that their colour was different wouldnt you get the one you thought looked better?
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21:00 <+krisk> the black MSI mbs are beautifull
21:01 < i_c-Y> i remember when people used to pick motherboards on performance and peripherals rather than style.
21:01 <+krisk> well i have 3 options that suit what i need
21:01 <+krisk> asrock is the cheapest but ugliest
21:01 <+krisk> 65 vs msi's 85
21:01 < i_c-Y> do you even know if these mobos have the ACC unlock doable?
21:02 <+krisk> its a mobo thing?
21:02 <+krisk> i thought it was a flash thing
21:04 <+krisk> "A product manager from Biostar says that any board with an SB750 southbridge can technically achieve the unlock. ASRock confirms the same, and gave us its test data with a number of CPUs indicating a fairly even split between chips that will unlock and run stably, chips that will unlock but aren’t stable, and chips that won’t unlock at all. "
21:06 <+krisk> ASRock's M3A790GXH/128M, the only board in our lab still able to unlock the Phenoms
21:06 <+krisk> hehlol
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21:10 < i_c-Y> <+krisk> its a mobo thing? <- you need the option inthe BIOS
21:11 <+krisk> yeah i just read that
21:11 < i_c-Y> the option is becoming less and less common
21:11 <+krisk> seems to come with the mbs that have SB780
21:11 <+krisk> but i cant see which chipsets have SB780
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21:14 <+krisk> hmm acc seems to be in 710 750 and 780 mbs too
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21:21 <+krisk> ok it just needs an mb with acc bios support (SB710+) that hasnt been patched to disallow this unlocking
21:21 <+krisk> asrock doesnt do the patching so i guess the choice is obvious
21:21 < jr19> yes
21:21 < jr19> i'm reading about this stuff right now
21:21 <+krisk> http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=585172
21:21 <+krisk> nice
21:22 < jr19> because i didnt know about it before
21:22 < jr19> is it stable or are you taking a chance?
21:22 <+krisk> this guy is running it at 4x4ghz
21:22 <+krisk> lulz
21:22 <+krisk> ill just buy it and see if it works
21:22 <+krisk> its not like a want a more expensive cpu anyway
21:23 <+krisk> http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=227004
21:23 <+krisk> yay a list of successes
21:23 < jr19> it looks like it should work more than likely
21:23 < jr19> with the ASRock board
21:26 <+krisk> asus m4 also seems an option
21:27 <+krisk> if it doesnt work ill just trade it in for another mb
21:28 < i_c-Y> <jr19> it looks like it should work more than likely <- as time marches on, it becomes less and less likely
21:28 < jr19> yeah
21:28 <+krisk> ?
21:28 < jr19> We started by testing Asus’ M4A79T Deluxe, which we’ve seen on other forums claimed to work. No-go, though. With ACC our “sure thing” Phenom II X3, though. On March 10, Gigabyte released a BIOS F2B, which was supposed to “Update ACC code for Phenom X3 CPU.” We updated to BIOS F3—the latest—and tried again. Still nothing.
21:29 <+krisk> like i said, stuff is getting patched but asrock is ignoring amd's requests to do so
21:29 < jr19> the site i'm reading says asrock may maintain two versions of the BIOS, one for enthusiasts who choose to unlock the extra core
21:30 <+krisk> yeah
21:30 <+krisk> + points for asrock imho
21:31 <+krisk> hmm 615 for a complete new pc
21:31 <+krisk> 393 if i leave out the gpu since i have a decent one at the moment to put in it
21:32 < jr19> you can probably buy something similar at best buy for that much
21:32 < jr19> ;)
21:32 <+krisk> i kinda doubt that
21:32 < jr19> lol i was kidding
21:32 <+krisk> ooh! ooh! i found a way to cheapen my food spendings by like 50%
21:32 < jr19> i want to build something new but that maybe a year or so away
21:33 < jr19> steal some of the parts instead of buying them?
21:33 < i_c-Y> how much are studio xps there?
21:33 <+krisk> there are some cheap supermarkets here that sell milk at 50 cents per liter instead of 1 euro per liter, that alone saves 56 euro / month
21:33 <+krisk> chicken for 2.50 euro / day instead of 4 euro / day
21:34 <+krisk> i think i can get it down to 200 from 380
21:34 <+krisk> per month
21:34 < jr19> oh, food spendings lol
21:34 < jr19> i ignored the word "food"
21:35 < jr19> i ate chicken for lunch today
21:35 <+krisk> nice
21:35 < jr19> chicken and cashews
21:35 <+krisk> even if i cant find cheaper cheese ill be at 200/month sintead of 400
21:35 < jr19> what kind of cheese are you looking at
21:35 <+krisk> low fat - 33gram protein / 17gram fat per 100grams
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21:36 < jr19> hmm
21:37 <+krisk> ok, if i get the complete pc for 615 i may be able to sell my current one for about 250-300, or i can keep the ram and gpu and get the new stuff for 393
21:38 < jr19> damn, cottage cheese has a lot of protein in it
21:38 <+krisk> theres a kind of cheese that is mostly protein, like 50% i think
21:38 <+krisk> but its absolutely disgusting
21:39 < jr19> hmm
21:39 < jr19> cottage cheese serving size seems huge, 226g
21:39 < jr19> is that right?
21:39 <+krisk> lol idk
21:40 <+krisk> thats a lot, even spread out over an entire day
21:40 < i_c-Y> should be probably half of that or less, jr19 
21:40 < jr19> it says 1 cup (not packed) serving size - 226g, 28g of protein, 2g of fat, 6g carbs
21:40 < i_c-Y> thats like a cup probably
21:40 < jr19> yeah, that's a lot heh
21:41 <+krisk> normal serving size of a slice of cheese on a sandwich is 40 grams
21:41 <+krisk> so you do the math
21:41 < jr19> yeah crazy
21:41 < i_c-Y> A 4 oz (113 g) serving of 4% fat product has about 120 calories, 5 g fat (3 g saturated), 3 g carbohydrates, and 14 g protein. It also contains about 500 mg sodium, 70 mg calcium and 20 mg cholesterol. - wikipedia
21:41 < jr19> are there any perfect foods heh
21:43 <+krisk> milk is perfect
21:44 < jr19> i have a gallon of milk at home
21:44 < jr19> i've only drank like 2 glasses out of it heh
21:44 <+krisk> hmm
21:44 < jr19> i dont like milk though
21:44 <+krisk> i drink 4 liters a day
21:44 < jr19> i've never liked the taste
21:44 <+krisk> whole or skim?
21:44 < jr19> i like chocolate milk though
21:44 < jr19> i dont like skim or 2%, never had whole
21:44 <+krisk> the taste is different in a sublte way
21:45 <+krisk> skim is sweeter, whole milk is slightly more creamy
21:45 <+krisk> i prefer whole milk
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21:45 < jr19> i can tell the difference between skim and 2%
21:45 <+krisk> but in my plan i got the ratios to be perfect by going for 2 liters of skim and 2 liters of whole milk a day
21:45 < jr19> skim is more "water-like"
21:45 < jr19> and you can see it when you use a clear glass, 2% "sticks" to the side of the glass more
21:45 <+krisk> actually it has more sugars than whole milk
21:46 < jr19> well i'm not talking about the taste, i'm talking about the consistency
21:46 <+krisk> so theoreticalyl its better to drink it in the morning and whole milk in the evening, in my schedule
21:46 <+krisk> ok
21:46 <+krisk> idk i just drink it straight from the jug
21:46 < jr19> i figured
21:46 < jr19> if you're the only one drinking it, theres no point in getting a glass dirty
21:47 < jr19> if you're drinking it quickly anyway, which you are
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21:54 < jr19> hmm i have a shitty build
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22:02 <+krisk> http://www.scifisquad.com/2009/08/08/a-dozen-things-you-may-not-know-about-district-9/
22:02 <+krisk> haha
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22:19 < _Digital> man it is hot outside, ~106F/41C
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22:21 <@_Auron_> o_o
22:21 <@_Auron_> 92F here
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22:43 < i_c-Y> movie reccomendations go!
22:48 < _Digital> District 9
22:49 < _Digital> I'm going to go see it when the sun goes down
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23:07 <@_Auron_> my sister left to see a free screening of The Final Destination
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23:44 <+sir_lewk> dudes
23:44 <+sir_lewk> I just saw Owen Wilson
23:44 <+sir_lewk> for reals! :O
23:44 < Barrett> how's his nose?
23:44 < _Digital> and let me go get Night and the Museum and I can see him too
23:45 < millinao> did you fist pump him]
23:47 <+sir_lewk> nah, I saw him out my window
23:47 <+sir_lewk> they're filming a movie across the street
23:47 < _Digital> nice
23:47 < _Digital> \got a name for the movie?
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23:48 < millinao> be an extra in it somehow
23:48 < Nikky> kk
23:48 < millinao> just walk across the street every single take
23:48 <+sir_lewk> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1341188/
23:49 <+sir_lewk> goes by "How Do You Know?" here
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