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00:01 <@_Auron_> Barrett V200 Barrett V200 Barrett V200 Barrett V200 Barrett V200 Barrett V200 Barrett V200 Barrett V200 Barrett V200 Barrett V200 Barrett V200 Barrett V200 Barrett V200 Barrett V200 Barrett V200 Barrett V200 
00:01  * _Auron_ screams
00:02 < BrandonW> They called me Mr. Glass.
00:09  * Randomist pushes the emergency TCPA reset button.
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00:13 < Geno> Is there no good irc client for windows
00:13 < Randomist> Irssi.
00:14 < Randomist> XChat.  Hydra.
00:14 < Geno> irssi on windows?
00:14 < Randomist> Yes.
00:14 < Geno> does it have unicode support
00:14 < Geno> multiple server auto join with seperate channels to auto join
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00:15 < Geno> icechat freezes too much
00:15 < Geno> no pun intended
00:17 < Randomist> No (unless you use URxvt in Windows) and yes on the multi-server auto-join.
00:18 < Randomist> XChat supports both.
00:18 < Randomist> So does Hydra.
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00:46 -!- mode/#tcpa [+o efneTI81] by etaonrish
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00:49 < Nikky> hi
00:54 < j-b-r> o hai thar
00:57 <+sir_lewk> hello chaps
00:58 <+sir_lewk> multiple servers in irssi is a bitch to configure
00:58 <+sir_lewk> actually, everything is a bitch to configure in irssi, besides that it rocks
00:58 < Randomist> Nonesense.
00:58 < Randomist> * Nonsense.
00:59 < Randomist> It's easy when you edit the config file by hand.  :P
00:59 <+sir_lewk> you can either hand-edit the absolutely pervse config file, or preform some sort of operation that I can never remember of the top of my head in irssi
00:59 < Andy_J> the config file is rather straightforward
01:00 <+sir_lewk> well I hate it
01:00 <+sir_lewk> anyways, it's still the best there is
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01:12 < Nikky> there's awlays weechat
01:12 < Nikky> which is a steaming pile of crap
01:21 < Randomist> (Sealab) 2021 CST.
01:23 < i_c-Y> eechat?
01:23 < i_c-Y> weechat*
01:23 < Randomist> Eewchat.
01:23 < Randomist> You almost had it.  :)
01:29 < Nikky> Hi Randomist 
01:29 < Randomist> Hello, Nikky.
01:30 < Nikky> What's happening?
01:30 < Randomist> Packing.
01:31 < Randomist> Or, it was.
01:31 < Nikky> hilight me again
01:32 < Randomist> Nikky.
01:32 < Nikky> thanks
01:32 < Nikky> and again
01:32 < Randomist> Nikky two.
01:32 < Nikky> good
01:33 < Nikky> I switched e-mail clients
01:34 < Randomist> System mail on highlight or something?
01:34 < Nikky> well, I was actually making sure the visual bell worked
01:34 < Nikky> but the client one was related
01:35 < Nikky> since I'm setting that up too
01:35 < Merthsoft> Nikky
01:35 < Nikky> hi
01:36 < Merthsoft> hi
01:37 < Nikky> What's happening?
01:38 < Merthsoft> bored
01:38 < Nikky> AMake yourself an hero
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01:38 -!- mode/#tcpa [+o _Auron_] by efneTI86
01:38 <@efneTI92> [_Auron_] We called it Sin.
01:38 < Merthsoft> you?
01:39 <@_Auron_> blessed is apparently down for the night.
01:40 < Nikky> haha
01:40 < Nikky> fail
01:40 < Nikky> Merthsoft: Kind of taking a break from shopping
01:40 < Merthsoft> shopping for what?
01:40 < Nikky> italy
01:41 < Nikky> oh yeah, I'll be gone a month
01:41 < Nikky> so be good
01:41 < Nikky> in the meantime BrandonW will be the beater of ass
01:43 < Merthsoft> oh neat
01:43 < Merthsoft> well, i'll do my best to behave
01:43 < Merthsoft> i do <3 BrandonW 
01:44 < Nikky> until your ass is raw
01:46 < Merthsoft> especially if my ass is raw ;)
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01:48 < Nikky> ;)
01:48 < Nikky> How is oHIo
01:48 < Nikky> How is OhiO
01:48 < Nikky> How is OhIo
01:48 < Nikky> How is oHiO
01:48 < Merthsoft> lame
01:48 < Nikky> :(
01:49 < Nikky> Do you party every night?
01:49 < Merthsoft> no
01:50 < Nikky> Every other night?
01:50 < Merthsoft> no
01:50 < Nikky> Week?
01:50 < Merthsoft> twice a night baby
01:51 < Nikky> Oh, okay
01:51 < Nikky> phew
01:52 <+sir_lewk> lol, sat octocat is sad http://github.com/images/error/octocat_sad.gif
01:52 < Merthsoft> the whole X Y is X thing is really stupid
01:53 <+sir_lewk> well scuse yo
01:53 < Nikky> Freespeak is really nigty
01:53 < Nikky> nifty
01:53 <+sir_lewk> freespeak?
01:54 < Nikky> yeah
01:54 < Nikky> it's a frontend to google translate
01:54 < Nikky> and yahoo other services
01:54 <+sir_lewk> ah
01:55 < Nikky> JUST FUCKIN STOP SIR_LEWK
01:55 <+sir_lewk> :(
01:55 < Nikky> JUST FUCKIN STOP
01:57  * sir_lewk runs off and cries
01:57 < Nikky> `Arora is pretty nifty
01:57 < Nikky> for a Qt piece of shit
01:57 < Nikky> that is
01:57 < Nikky> :)
02:00 <+sir_lewk> lol
02:00 <+sir_lewk> I am a fan, reminds me of what firefox used to be
02:00 <+sir_lewk> (not a bloated ass)
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02:02 <+sir_lewk> gah bbl
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02:52 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Michael_V] by efneTI85
02:59 <+Michael_V> Is anyone interested in a silent Celeron 400 NLX PC?
02:59 <+Michael_V> It has a fanless power supply and heatsink so there are no moving parts
03:05 < BrandonW> Price?
03:06 <+Michael_V> $10 + shipping
03:06 <+Michael_V> it has a PCI slot, 2 USB ports, integrated sound/video/etc.
03:06 <+Michael_V> IDE controller
03:06 <+Michael_V> a 3.5" drive bay
03:06 <+Michael_V> 128 MB RAM
03:06 < BrandonW> It's awfully tempting.
03:07 <+Michael_V> If I wasn't going to solder a SD card into a Buffalo router, I'd use it myself
03:07 < BrandonW> Do you have a picture of it or something similar?
03:08 <+Michael_V> http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/6361/nlx1m.jpg
03:09 <+Michael_V> http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/9076/nlx2.jpg
03:10 < BrandonW> What do you imagine shipping will be?
03:10 <+Michael_V> about $12
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03:15 < Tari_> 'sup guys
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03:29 < DrDnar> Anybody want a fast, RAM-based garbage collector?
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03:49 < bsparks> <_<
03:49 < bsparks> >_>
03:49 < millinao> ^_^
03:53 < bsparks> DSP_Lord, lrn2cleveland sometime around mid september
03:53 < Merthsoft> mmmm wolfenstein is good
03:54 < DSP_Lord> wut
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04:18 < bsparks> Rock Band needs a Tool version <_<
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04:24 <@efneTI92> [Randomist] http://wintervenom.mine.nu
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04:29 < Tari_> '86 is laggy, it's sad
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04:39 <+sir_lewk> ladies and gentlement, I present you with the electric clarinet: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:EWI.jpg
04:39 <+sir_lewk> be in awe, be in awe
04:40 < Merthsoft> i just cleared up 20 gigs on my hdd by deleting old system resotores points
04:40 < Merthsoft> woo
04:41 < i_c-Y> who the hell keeps system restore enabled?
04:41 < DrDnar> Electric clarinet? Sounds awful.
04:41 < i_c-Y> all it does is cause problems if something goes wrong
04:41 < i_c-Y> esp if you have a virus or something since itll just hide there.
04:41 < Randomist> I don't.
04:41 < Randomist> I don't even use UAC.
04:41 < Randomist> (Actually, I can't use it.)
04:41 < DrDnar> An instrument of torture operated by a person with cotton in his ears. There are two instruments that are worse than a clarionet -- two clarionets.
04:46 <+sir_lewk> lmao
04:48 < Merthsoft> that's missing keys
04:49 < millinao> damnit I just picked up my mouse fully expecting the TV to recognize it
04:49 < GW-Basic> Ti-85 Question,  trying to print a hex number and decimal number on same line using string.   want something like "answer=H10D16"
04:52 < jr19> hi
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04:54 < Randomist> I hope my external-SATA isn't trying to fail.
04:54 < Randomist> Every once in a blue moon, it will make this loud screech while it's idle.
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04:54 < GW-Basic> low, gets loud, low then silent?
04:55 < Randomist> No.  Just out of nowhere, it gives a short loud screech.
04:55 < Merth_> ok, so, somehow i've lost the ability to hibernate...
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04:56 < GW-Basic> could be a ballbearing. it'll sound worse before you have to worry
04:57 < Randomist> I hope it lasts for at least half a year or so.
04:57 < Randomist> I've already gone through one.  >.>
04:57 < Randomist> Don't want to drop another hundred and ten dollars on another.
04:57 < GW-Basic> might check to see if your hard drives are getting hot
04:57 < GW-Basic> frys $75 for a terabyte
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05:00 < GW-Basic> If you get noise & clicking while trying to access hard drive then you have problems
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05:44 <@efneTI92> [LordMathi] I'm not a ninja, no idea what you're talking about.
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05:49 < jr19> what a worthless night
05:49 < Randomist> Two more days (really, this time).
05:50  * Randomist continues to wait impatiently.
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05:51 < Randomist> And time draaaaaaaags on so slow.
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06:20 < Randomist> http://news.softpedia.com/news/A-Chinese-Cat-Has-Grown-Wings-56261.shtml
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06:37 <+sir_lewk> evolution
06:38 < incubus> I broke translation party: http://www.translationparty.com/#2600812
06:38 < incubus> oh god I broke it even more: http://www.translationparty.com/#2601036
06:40 <+sir_lewk> Please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please do not touch Purizupurizumi.
06:40 <+sir_lewk> awesome
06:40 < incubus> lol
06:41 < incubus> LOL WTF
06:41 < incubus> http://www.translationparty.com/#2601249
06:41 < incubus> are you kidding me?!
06:41 <+sir_lewk> lmao
06:41 < incubus> you are dirty sir_lewk
06:42 <+sir_lewk> "Please Sir_lewk hard erection." isn't that what your mom was saying to me last night? ;P
06:42 < incubus> maybe
06:43 < incubus> http://www.translationparty.com/#2601249
06:43 < incubus> sir_lewk is a guy on irc
06:43 < incubus> oops
06:43 < incubus> wrong chan haha
06:44 < incubus> sir_lewk, I can only get it to work with your name
06:44 <+sir_lewk> yeah
06:45 <+sir_lewk> I can only get this to work with your name: http://www.translationparty.com/#2601541
06:45 <+sir_lewk> :D
06:45 <+sir_lewk> "I want to eat delicious chicken nightmare"
06:45 <+sir_lewk> wtf
06:45 < incubus> lol
06:45 <+sir_lewk> is incubus latin for nightmare or something?
06:45 < incubus> yes
06:45 <+sir_lewk> aah, interesting
06:45 < incubus> it's a deamon that rapes women in the night
06:45 < incubus> also translated as nightmare
06:45 < incubus> demon*
06:46 <+sir_lewk> lol, nice
06:46 < Randomist> Mmm... chicken.
06:47 < incubus> never choke a chicken
06:47 < Randomist> http://cb.vu/
06:47 < incubus> ..
06:47 < incubus> should I?
06:49 < incubus> cool
06:49 < tr1p1ea> brb
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06:51 <+sir_lewk> interesting, it even has a vi-like
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06:56 < Randomist> "su" password is "root."
06:57 <+sir_lewk> it's chatbot is pretty decent
07:03 < i_c-Y> cute
07:04 <+sir_lewk> it just suggested that I read Collapse by Jared Diamond
07:05 <+sir_lewk> which is actually already on my "to read" list :o
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08:07 <@efneTI92> [_Auron|G1] We called it Sin.
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09:14 < _Digital> anyone up?
09:17 <@_Auron_> no
09:18 < _Digital> why the hell am I getting an erro at line 17?
09:18 < _Digital> http://tcpa.pastebin.com/m24ca8af0
09:19 < _Digital> if I remove the if statements at teh top it goes away...
09:20 <@_Auron_> what's with the ` after .log?
09:20 <@_Auron_> nm
09:20 < _Digital> it runs perfectly fine until I try and limit it
09:20 < _Digital> I don't know what is breaking due to syntax
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09:25 < millinao> hahaha i just spent an hour and a half helping my girlfriend cheat against my friend in scrabble
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09:28 < _Digital> _Auron_: it's telling me I have too many arguments at line 17
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09:37 <@_Auron_> weird
09:38 <@_Auron_> I don't know bash syntax, but maybe == instead of =?
09:38  * _Auron_ shrugs
09:38 < _Digital> I remove teh while loop and the problem goes away...
09:38 < _Digital> and that doesn't fix anything, but thanks for trying
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09:44 < _Digital> !seen zkostik
09:44 <@efneTI86> _Digital, I don't remember seeing zkostik.
09:44 <@efneTI86> _Digital, CalcIon says: zkostik (~eXp56k@75.148.9.180) was last seen quitting from #calcgames 1 year, 332 days, 6 hours, 31 minutes ago stating (Quit: Leaving).
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14:56 < quentin> Hi, can anyone help me with getting a ROM dump for my TI 83+ SE on Mac OS X 10.4?
14:57 < quentin> I've tried rom8x.exe and romdump.exe but neither will run on either DOSBox or Wine
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15:19 < Andy_J> rom8x should have source available
15:19 < Andy_J> it's simple enough it should be trivial to recompile for os x
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15:22 < quentin> where can I get the source code?
15:25 < jr19> lame night was lame
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15:28 < Andy_J> I know he left
15:28 < Andy_J> but it's in the fucking zip with the exe
15:29 < jr19> some people can't be bothered to look around for more than 5 seconds apparently
15:30 < Andy_J> the delay was me actually checking to make sure it was there and I wasn't just thinking it was there
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15:32 < jr19> ah there he is
15:32 < Andy_J> it's in the same .zip as the .exe file ...
15:35 < quentin> ok, thanks
15:35 < quentin> tbh, though, I'm not entirely sure how to compile it
15:36 < quentin> I know I sound like a bit of a noob
15:36 < quentin> I mean, I think I have an idea, but I haven't really done much C on this computer
15:37 < quentin> I'll let you know how I get on
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15:42 <@efneTI92> [Randomist] http://wintervenom.mine.nu
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16:27 < bsparks> I wonder how tightly one can bend EL wire
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16:53 < tev> http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/420/42078.html -- anyone have a 1.8K ROM TI-81 they can confirm this on?
16:53 < tev> I tried it on V2.0V but never could find the "All-OffBcol" it was referring to
16:53 < tev> Something weird definitely is going on with this trick, though
17:01 < Tari> wierd indeed
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17:11 <@efneTI92> [i_c-Y] It's like I'm the last sane person on Earth.
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18:02 < BrandonW> That's quite intriguing.
18:02 < BrandonW> I've talked to the guy, I'm inclined to believe him.
18:03 < BrandonW> I wonder how that works.
18:03 < BrandonW> Or if something similar exists on the 80.
18:03 < BrandonW> If so, we have assembly on every model.
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18:31 <@E-J> http://www.insidesocal.com/crime/nazi.jpg
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19:01 < i_c-Y> :-|
19:04 < jr19> :O
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20:11 <+krisk> yo
20:11 < i_c-Y> oy
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20:27 < jr19> hey krisk 
20:27 <+krisk> yo
20:27 < jr19> how is windows 7 treating you
20:28 <+krisk> very well
20:28 <+krisk> i need some better wallpapers though
20:28 < jr19> yeah
20:29 < Randomist> It's treating me okay, too.
20:30 < jr19> anyone do anything fun this weekend?
20:30 <+krisk> i need a really cute girlfriend so i can have pics of her for it to switch between every 30 secs
20:30 <+krisk> weekend is over
20:30 < Randomist> Nope, because I've been too busy getting ready to leave.
20:30 <+krisk> vriday i played pool, saturday movie at friends palce today i went swimming
20:30 < i_c-Y> id rather be on vista.
20:31 < jr19> ah it would be a good day for swimming here
20:31 < i_c-Y> krisk: i know how you cna get a really cute girlfriend
20:31 <+krisk> Activating Windows(R) 7, Enterprise edition (ae2ee509-1b34-41c0-acb7-6d465016891
20:31 <+krisk> 5) ...
20:31 <+krisk> Product activated successfully.
20:31 <+krisk> woo
20:31 < i_c-Y> you need an attic / basement. some place dark. 
20:32 < i_c-Y> pick a target girl
20:32 <+krisk> my room = attic
20:32 <+krisk> its dark because i have the blinds down always
20:32 < i_c-Y> roofies or chloroform, take her down
20:32 < i_c-Y> tie her up
20:32 < jr19> preferably with shackles on the wall
20:32 <+krisk> and usually dont turn on the lights because of watching movies/series/working
20:32 < i_c-Y> drag her to the attic
20:32 < i_c-Y> shackle her
20:32 < i_c-Y> and wait till stockholm takes over.
20:32 <+krisk> i prefer chloroform, more reliable sources
20:32 < i_c-Y> really cute girlfriend achieved.
20:33 < i_c-Y> the issue with chloroform is that it causes arithmyas
20:33 < i_c-Y> so you might want something else
20:33 <+krisk> roofies is worse
20:33 <+krisk> even if its pure
20:33 < i_c-Y> and you dont want to murder her
20:33 < i_c-Y> you want her alive
20:34 <+krisk> well, could jsut get another one if things go wrong
20:34 < i_c-Y> just don't get caught
20:34 <+krisk> of course
20:34 <+krisk> unless theres a cute cop girl
20:35 < Randomist> i_c-Y:  Have you done this a couple of times or something?
20:35 <+krisk> how do you prevent rope burns though?
20:35 < i_c-Y> i'm charming, Randomist - i don't need to do this
20:35 < i_c-Y> krisk: put a scarf underneath.
20:35 <+krisk> hmm are you sure thatll help?
20:36 < Nikky> HOLY SHIT NEW NEWS AT TICALC
20:36 < Randomist> News at eleven.
20:37 < i_c-Y> yeah, krisk , plus she should be knocked out at this point so she shouldnt give that much resistance.
20:37 < i_c-Y> just remove the ropes carefully.
20:37 <+krisk> ah yeah
20:38 <+krisk> isnt there some kind of brainwashing helping drug?
20:38 <+krisk> so i can just put her under and talk nice to her and shell be pretty convinced of anything ive told her in that state
20:39 < i_c-Y> i dont think it works that way
20:39 <+krisk> tell her the whole world is against us so she has to be with me and not contact others n stuff
20:40 < i_c-Y> stockholm will take care of that sooner or later
20:40 <+krisk> ok
20:41 <+krisk> ill start going to goa parties with lsd/xtc drenched in roofies
20:42 < i_c-Y> let me make it clear that i do not condone this method
20:42 < i_c-Y> buy the lady dinner first and go from there :)
20:42 <+krisk> does she have to be consious for the dinner?
20:42 < i_c-Y> i'm not sure
20:44 < chronomex> hahaha
20:44 < i_c-Y> also, i saw an ad for kristen bell's new show
20:44 < i_c-Y> she talks to animals
20:44 < i_c-Y> and solves crimes
20:44 < i_c-Y> SERIOSULY WTF
20:45 < Randomist> Oh, $diety.
20:45 < i_c-Y> if she wanted a detective show she should have done a few more seaosns of veronica mars
20:46 < i_c-Y> i have a theory
20:46 < i_c-Y> the only reason why heroes sustains itself
20:46 < i_c-Y> is that it sucks all talent and potential from the people in it
20:46 < i_c-Y> seriously, george takei in ninja cheerleaders?
20:46 < i_c-Y> kristen bell in anything after veronica mars?
20:47 < i_c-Y> i saw like 15 minutes of forgetting sarah marshall, and its totally the wrong character.
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20:47 < i_c-Y> they took the psycho cutie thing in heroes too far and killed kristen bell killing the series
20:48 < i_c-Y> how did i get to kristen bell?
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20:57 < i_c-Y> oh wait, the kristen bell show is fake
20:57 < i_c-Y> nevermind.
20:57 < i_c-Y> :)
20:57 < i_c-Y> good.
20:57 < i_c-Y> about animals.
21:01 <+krisk> chick version of dr doolitte sounds kinda fun
21:01 <+krisk> is she blonde in it?
21:02 < jr19> wat
21:03 < i_c-Y> i dont think ive seen kristen bell in anything except as a blonde
21:03 <+krisk> yeah
21:04 <+krisk> bit boring
21:04 < jr19> whats boring
21:04 <+krisk> red would work better for a psycho who talks to animals
21:04 <+krisk> blonde is boring
21:05 < jr19> oh yeah, i dont care too much for blonde
21:05 <+krisk> how do i solve 0.35x=60+x
21:05 < i_c-Y> subtract x from both sides
21:06 < i_c-Y> then divide both sides by -.65
21:06 < jr19> yes!
21:06 < Andy_J> solve for 0 then use the solver >_>
21:07 <+krisk> donth ave a solver
21:08 <+krisk> how did you get -.65
21:08 < i_c-Y> 0.35x = 60+x
21:08 < i_c-Y> 0.35x - x = 60
21:08 < i_c-Y> (0.35 -1) x = 60
21:08 < jr19> yeah that makes it easy
21:08 < i_c-Y> (-0.65) x = 60
21:08 < i_c-Y> x = 60/(-.65)
21:09 <+krisk> -92...
21:09 < i_c-Y> x=-1200/13 
21:10 <+krisk> lol
21:11 < i_c-Y> i hope you weren't serious about asking how to solve that
21:14 <+krisk> its part of a bigger problem and i was guessing if that would solve it but it doesnt
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21:27 < jr19> god damn sweaty armpits
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21:42 <+Netham45> gah
21:42 <+Netham45> how do I explain to someone that different CPU architectures aren't compatable?
21:43 <+Netham45> as in, how do I tell someone he's a retard for trying to install XP onto a PPC mac?
21:44 < Randomist> Netham45:  "They're two different kinds of CPUs, you retard."
21:45 < jr19> just tell them its like giving assembly instructions in russian to a person who only understands english
21:45 <+glk> Some Macs with special boards can run IBM programs
21:46 < jr19> like toy assembly instructions
21:51 < i_c-Y> <+Netham45> as in, how do I tell someone he's a retard for trying to install XP onto a PPC mac? <- he can use virtualpc.
21:52 <+Netham45> i_c-Y, he wants to do it to play games with.
21:52 < i_c-Y> depends on what they games are
21:52 <+Netham45> he wants to play TF2, I believe.
21:52 < i_c-Y> it could work well enough
21:53 < Randomist> VirtualBox.
21:53 < i_c-Y> maybe it'll just run very slowly if it runs.
21:53 < Randomist> It has 3D acceleration.
21:53 < i_c-Y> that needs an intel mac
21:54 <+Netham45> any way, it's not going to be playable at all.
21:54 <+Netham45> therefore he'd be wasting mine, and his time.
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21:57 < Randomist> Tell him he's a fucktard for buying a Mac.  :)
21:58 <+glk> Mt Mac runs great
21:59 < bsparks> ..Mt Mac?
21:59 < Randomist> * My
21:59 < bsparks> those keys are nowhere near each oth- oh, yes they are...
21:59 < Randomist> Well, for buying a Mac and expecting to play games on it.
22:01 < Randomist> (Besides the stuff from the Info-Mac archives.)
22:01 < bsparks> or pure-mac site
22:02 < incubus> I thought bsparks killed himself after staring into glk's soul
22:03  * Randomist waits for the:  ...
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22:05 < incubus> http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/22/video-robot-hand-shows-off-amazing-dexterity-speed/#continued
22:05 < incubus> Fucking awesome
22:06 < bsparks> !k Randomist ...
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22:07 <+krisk> motion isnt 3d enough
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22:07 < incubus> krisk, the robots?
22:07 <+krisk> yeah
22:07 < incubus> um
22:07 < incubus> Throwing a ball
22:07 < incubus> Dribbling
22:07 < incubus> Catching a flipping cell phone
22:07 < incubus> really?
22:07 < Randomist> incubus:  Taking over the world.
22:08 < Randomist> You forgot that.
22:08 < incubus> lool
22:08 <+krisk> the objects are 3d
22:08 <+krisk> but the movement paths arent very diverse
22:08 < incubus> are you kidding me, the dribbling was extraordinarily diverse
22:08 <+krisk> for dribbling it only needs to move slightly in a 2d line
22:09 <+krisk> throw is just a swing of the entire arm
22:09 < incubus> um it's much more than a swing
22:09 <+krisk> wanna see a demo of it catching a ball thrown by a person
22:09 < incubus> lots of rotation
22:09 <+krisk> well duh, per joint
22:09 <+krisk> but the motion flow is just one boring line done by the entire arm
22:09 < incubus> I'll admit the tweezers and knotting is pretty weak
22:10 < incubus> it caught a cellphone dammit
22:10 < incubus> come on
22:10 < Randomist> incubus:  Why you had to get him started?  :P
22:10 < incubus> Randomist, such a nay-sayer
22:10 < incubus> "Until I can have sex with it, it's not 3d enough"
22:10 <+krisk> ill be interested when they can combine the arm motion with the hand catching/dribbling stuff
22:10 < incubus> ie It can play basketball with you
22:10 < incubus> that's like 100 years away
22:10 <+krisk> oh come one the motion look like they could as well be preprogrammed
22:11 < incubus> you can see during the dribbling the dynamic motion
22:11 <+krisk> yes its dynamic
22:11 < incubus> it's having to read the trajectory of the ball
22:11 <+krisk> but the variation is like less than an inch
22:11 <+krisk> i know
22:11 < Randomist> Alt-Goth/Metal/Hippie androids.
22:11 <+krisk> i was more impressed by that walking dog robot thing for the army that could keep balance when kicked
22:12 <+krisk> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1czBcnX1Ww
22:12 < incubus> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1czBcnX1Ww
22:12 < incubus> how about that
22:12 < incubus> ya
22:12 < incubus> he fucking KICKED it
22:12 <+krisk> if they make that arm shake hands with a guy putting his hand in a random place and it following its motion, will be much more impressive 
22:13 < incubus> I wonder if PETA can get him for that
22:13 <+krisk> the dog robot thing looks creepy its that good
22:13 < incubus> I feel sorry for it
22:13 < incubus> I'm attatching emotions to it
22:13 <+krisk> it does look kinda sad falling over on ice n stuff
22:13 <+krisk> holy shit
22:13 < incubus> when it slips it looks like a struggling animal
22:13 < incubus> ya
22:13 <+krisk> it stayed up
22:14 <+krisk> thats impressive
22:14 < incubus> tell me that isn't the most organic movement you've ever seen
22:14 < incubus> that's insane
22:14 <+krisk> bouncing a ball up and down, not so much
22:14 < incubus> it walked over cynderblocks!
22:14 < incubus> cinder?
22:14 <+krisk> i hadnt seen that icesliding in earlier videos
22:14 <+krisk> idk, bricks were shat
22:14 < incubus> lol the bouncing was lame
22:15 <+krisk> haha jump doggy jump
22:15 < incubus> how did they get it to look so real on the ice slide
22:15 < incubus> like it doesn't look like algorithmic motion
22:15 < incubus> it doesn't instantly regain stability
22:15 < incubus> it looks COMPLETELY organic
22:16 <+krisk> yeah
22:16 <+krisk> mustve been based on animal movement patterns
22:16 <+krisk> maybe short evolutionary algorithms
22:16 < incubus> I doubt it has evolutionary algorithms that are worth being called that
22:16 <+krisk> or, the whole notion of real world balance will simpyl result in this, agorithmic or not
22:16 < incubus> could be wrong though
22:17 < incubus> krisk, pretty much
22:17 < incubus> the thing is, it should be better at regaining stability
22:17 < incubus> I'm not sure if they were going for organic, or 'better'
22:18 < incubus> krisk, you think you could knock it off its feet?
22:18 <+krisk> i dont think you can do much better yet since you cant predict how an action will end because you cant predict what the contact surface will be like
22:18 < incubus> it doesn't matter, give it more joints, more ways to distribute its weight
22:18 <+krisk> best it can do is try to keep balance and correct itself constantly really quickly
22:19 <+krisk> hoping there isnt suddenly a whole in the earth
22:19 <+krisk> *hole
22:19 <+krisk> so i guess itll need optic sensors
22:19 < incubus> :)
22:19 < incubus> How much you think that cost? conservatively
22:19 < incubus> 30 million?
22:19 <+krisk> no idea
22:20 <+krisk> it looks pretty simple mechnically
22:20 < DrDnar> Ah, I see why these numbers don't add up: there's an error in TI's documentation. Eight pages are 128K not 32K.
22:20 <+krisk> so mostly dev costs i'd think
22:20 < incubus> that hardware? no way
22:20 < incubus> all custom
22:20 < incubus> the legs alone may be 1 million in development
22:20 < incubus> if not more
22:20 < Randomist> I'd [also] like to see that thing on Robot Wars.
22:20 < incubus> (this is over years)
22:20 <+krisk> yes, in dev
22:20 < incubus> and research costs
22:20 < incubus> materials
22:20 < incubus> testing
22:20 < incubus> etc
22:20 <+krisk> but to build a new copy of the ones they have now cant be that much
22:21 < incubus> oh of course
22:21 < incubus> I'm not saying it would cost 30 million to dish that out
22:21 <+krisk> the development and research wouldnt surprise me if it matched that of a small jet fighter
22:22 < incubus> hehe
22:22 < incubus> I still want a computer that will pass a turing test
22:23 < Randomist> When they start solving all those CAPTCHAs, panic.
22:23 <+krisk> turing test was not being able to notice a difference from human answers, right?
22:25 <+krisk> oh shit lol i thought it was /very/ late at night but i forgot i set windows' time to UTC+3 for the key activation
22:27 < incubus> krisk, yes
22:27 < incubus> You take x number of terminals,  Some of them human, some machine
22:28 < incubus> You chat with the terminal, and you have to be able to tell which is machine
22:30 <+krisk> simple
22:30 <+krisk> have it introduce itself as a woman
22:30 <+krisk> throw a bitch fit
22:30 <+krisk> and refuse to talk any more
22:32 < Randomist> This bot scares me.  http://www.jabberwacky.com/j2conversations
22:33 <+krisk> user:  I don't have to prove it, I already know it.
22:33 <+krisk> jabberwacky: To whom are you referring?
22:33 <+krisk> already broke there for me
22:35 <+krisk> not scary unless user was the bot
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22:50 <+krisk> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d215f790a1
22:50 <+krisk> haha
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23:21 < Tahben> I just ate cake as fast as I can before my husband comes home. Because he's cooking tonight and I'm skeered.
23:21 < i_c-Y> he beats you?
23:21 < Randomist> Tahben:  Does he cook like Bender from "Futurama?"
23:22 < Tahben> I don't know, Randomist 
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23:34 < BrandonW> Randomist: Jabberwacky's a fun bot.
23:34 < BrandonW> I wasted MANY hours talking to that thing.
23:34 < BrandonW> I used to have conversations so hilarious, I'd cry from laughing when reading them.
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