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00:13 < sparksPod> greyhound is expensive :/
00:15 < Tari> take the train
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00:21 <@efneTI92> [_Aur|G1] We called it Sin.
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00:25 < sparksPod> Merthsoft: btw
00:25 < sparksPod> I have your cord
00:31 < Andy_J> lol train
00:31 < Andy_J> there is no train
00:34 < sparksPod> ?
00:35 < sparksPod> I don't think any trains run from Columbus to Jersey
00:46 < Barrett> GAH!
00:47 < Barrett> so I just played warcraft 3 against an insane computer
00:47 < Barrett> and... they cheat!
00:47 < Barrett> I had 4 gold mines... they only had 2, yet somehow (I mined all of the gold out of all 4 of mine) they mined more or less the same amount as me
00:47 < Barrett> and the "gold mined" has nothing to do with upkeep
00:49 < Andy_J> http://twitpic.com/e27p3
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00:51 < Barrett> "is" ?
00:51 < Barrett> is that an old trivia question or is he back?
00:51 < Andy_J> yes
00:51 < Andy_J> it's back for 2 weeks
00:51 < Andy_J> 5 last week and 5 next week
00:52 < Barrett> cool
00:52 < chronomex> Andy_J: lol
00:57 < sir_lewk> mmm, beautiful night
00:58  * sir_lewk just walked around philly for 2 hours
01:04 < Tari> insanely humid here :(
01:04 < Tari> going to a bonfire shortly, though
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02:08 < Nikky> Hey you
02:08 < Nikky> hidin' away
02:11 < mokomull> hey Nikky 
02:11 < Nikky> mokomull!
02:11 < Nikky> What's happening?
02:11 < mokomull> I moved home today!
02:11 < Nikky> oh
02:11 < mokomull> Two weeks and I'll be back in school.
02:11 < Nikky> Is that exciting?
02:11 < mokomull> it's more exciting that I'm not in a fucking car any more :P
02:12 < Nikky> Yeah
02:12 < Nikky> How long of a drive is it?
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02:12 < mokomull> was about 4-4.5 hours
02:12 < mokomull> How've you been?
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02:14 < Nikky> Busy!
02:14 < Nikky> But I got a chance to wander about the waterfront in Seattle, which was good.
02:14 < mokomull> I'm debating on whether or not to go to Seattle in December.
02:14 < mokomull> I might go take the Japanese Language Proficiency Test.
02:16 < Nikky> Is it only offered there?
02:16 < Nikky> here?
02:16 < millinao> 日本語を話しますか？
02:16 < millinao> that probably didn't transmit
02:17 < Nikky> I got one char
02:17 < Nikky> and a bunch of shit
02:17 < millinao> i didn't even get the fucking question mark, and I wrote it
02:17 < Nikky> but I think either my screen or irssi doesn't have UTF-8 on
02:17 < millinao> anyhow I just said 'you speak japanese?'
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02:19 < Nikky> I do, yes
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02:22 < millinao> i took it for a year, dunno if I still will, that class was the class from hell
02:22 < millinao> you know its good when the teacher said that our class was the worst class she's ever had
02:23 < BrandonW> No, people, we cracked the 04 key, not the 0A key.
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02:25 <@efneTI92> [Randomis1] http://wintervenom.mine.nu
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02:27 < sir_lewk> Nikky: I've got the same issue :/
02:32 < tev> I think it came through correctly on my end
02:33 < chronomex> 17:58:18  * sir_lewk just walked around philly for 2 hours
02:33 < chronomex> and you didn't get shot?
02:33 < chronomex> millinao: your japanese worked great for me
02:33 < millinao> odd
02:33  * Randomist wonders:  any Lua programmers around?
02:33 < chronomex> your term is messed up
02:33 < chronomex> same for Nikky
02:34 < millinao> yeah, i dont even know if xchat supports utf
02:35 < Randomist> 1~It does.
02:35 < Randomist> Not on Windows, thought.
02:35 < Randomist> * though
02:35 < millinao> yeah it actually does, but you have to enable it per server O_o
02:35 < Randomist> Oh.
02:36 < Randomist> Whichever is the GTK one doesn't.
02:37 < BrandonW> http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/9827/0011irm.jpg Just got back from doing that.
02:37 < BrandonW> That particular one was 45mph, 1000 ft. across, 175 ft. high.
02:37 < millinao> oh man, ziplining is so fun
02:38 < BrandonW> I had no idea!
02:38 < millinao> did you have to brake yourself or did it brake for you
02:38 < BrandonW> It did it for me.
02:38 < millinao> i've done one where you have to wear a glove and brake yourself, scary as hell that way
02:38 < BrandonW> Landing is a little bit of a challenge.
02:39 < BrandonW> No doubt.
02:39 < millinao> the ones where it brakes for you is more fun though, because then you get to just chill and watch everything
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03:50 < millinao> i think i'm getting bored with the internet
03:50 < millinao> after four years, i'm getting bored
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03:59 <@efneTI92> [i_c-Y] It's like I'm the last sane person on Earth.
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04:17 <@efneTI92> [_Auron|G1] We called it Sin.
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04:24 < sir_lewk> oops, I accidentally drunk
04:26 < sir_lewk> how does this happen
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04:47 <@efneTI92> [LordMathi] I'm not a ninja, no idea what you're talking about.
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04:53 < sir_lewk> man, I'm hardcore hungry for chinese food right now for some reason
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05:05 <@efneTI92> [DSP_Lord] I'm not a ninja, no idea what you're talking about.
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05:20 <@efneTI92> [sir_lewk] http://www.cs.drexel.edu/~jlg95  I have much DATA in VELOCIRAPTORS AND PHILOSOPH
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05:27 <@efneTI92> [LordMathi] I'm not a ninja, no idea what you're talking about.
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05:40 <+Netham45> Is there anything that supports x64 and direct USB>
05:40 <+Netham45> ?
05:41 < Randomist> Netham45:  TiLP.
05:41 < Randomist> But you will have to use the driver-signer.
05:41 <+Netham45> TiLP does Direct USB?
05:42 < Randomist> Yes.
05:42 <+Netham45> When'd that get support? o.O
05:42 < Randomist> It works great with my TI-84 and worked with my TI-89.
05:43 < Randomist> * when I had a 
05:43 < Randomist> Actually, I did not test that part on Windows, but it worked on Linux.
05:43 < Randomist> So it *should* work there.
05:47 <+Netham45> hrm
05:47 <+Netham45> I'm just going to put it on my laptop
05:47 <+Netham45> that'll be easier than mucking with tilp
05:47 < Tari> woo, burning things
05:47 < Tari> got some cool pictures
05:48  * Tari --> bed
05:49 < Tari> and throwing in my $.02, I've used TI-Connect and TiLP in VMs and they worked fine
05:51 < Randomist> Tari:  What OS?
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06:18 <@efneTI92> [DSP_Lord] I'm not a ninja, no idea what you're talking about.
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06:47 <@efneTI92> [LordMathi] I'm not a ninja, no idea what you're talking about.
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07:53 <@efneTI92> [DSP_Lord] I'm not a ninja, no idea what you're talking about.
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08:22 < millinao> i wonder what the chances are of a random mugger holding a gun is of that mugger actually willing to shoot that gun
08:22 < sir_lewk> </day>
08:22 < millinao> in theory you're supposed to submit to the gun holder no matter what but I wonder if that's true
08:23 < millinao> or, a knife instead of a gun
08:25 < sir_lewk> I wouldn't take a bet with those consequences, the odds can't be that good...
08:25 < sir_lewk> $40 vs death...
08:26 < millinao> well I'm wondering the chances of a crazy fucker who would, as opposed to a normal criminal who uses the threat itself as the weapon
08:27 < millinao> well, the chances might be little enough that you would be safer wearing a pillow on your head so you don't fall and break your neck
08:27 < sir_lewk> the chances of being mugged at all are pretty damn slim in most places
08:28 < millinao> yeah
08:28 < millinao> but I bet that there are at least a few situations where you'd be perfectly safe just shrugging them off
08:41 < sir_lewk> probably
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09:11 <@efneTI92> [Netham45] Narf!
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13:00 <@efneTI92> [i_c-Y] It's like I'm the last sane person on Earth.
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13:52 < i_c-Y> you know
13:52 < Andy_J> no, I don't know
13:53 < i_c-Y> i dont think north korea realizes how hard the US can kick their asses.
13:55 < i_c-Y> i kinda wish my laptop had LED backlighting
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14:32 < E-J> i_c-Y: i don't think usa really want to kick anyone's ass, it always cost money and people still remember korean war
14:33 < i_c-Y> but we still could. because we are in fact the greatest country in the world.
14:33 < E-J> yeah, but you can't kill osama
14:33 < i_c-Y> we got him just where we want him :)
14:39 < Andy_J> osama is so 8 years ago
14:49 < E-J> and you haven't still found him
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16:11 < Barrett> asdf
16:11 < Barrett> hi
16:11 < Barrett> everybody
16:11 < Merthsoft> hi
16:11 < Barrett> how does it going?
16:11 < Merthsoft> i does going well
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16:13 < Merthsoft> l
16:14 < E-J> o
16:14 < Andy_J> n
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16:15 < Merthsoft> i just updated xchat, and now when i minimize, it goes to the tray instead of the bar...
16:15 < Merthsoft> i don't want it to do that
16:16 < Barrett> that's probably a preference that you can change
16:16 < Merthsoft> i can't find it though
16:17 < Tari> yeah, right-click on the tray icon
16:17 < Tari> it's a plugin that does that
16:18 < Merthsoft> ooh thanks
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16:19 < Barrett> hmmm
16:19 < Barrett> perhaps I'll replace mIRC with xchat
16:19 < Barrett> this isn't too bad
16:20 < Tari> the latest silverex build fixes a number of long-standing issues
16:20 < Tari> like python scripting is finally fixed
16:20 < Merthsoft> Barrett: if you're on windows get silverex
16:21 < Tari> and xtray, fixing the 'crash when you click on the tray icon' thing
16:21 < Merthsoft> ooh, it stays maximized after minimizing it and restoring it
16:21 < Barrett> Merthsoft,  why?
16:24 < E-J> watching athletics world champs, some swiss heptathlon athlete just threw national record in javelin throw
16:25 < E-J> 53m
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16:41 < Merthsoft> Barrett__: xchat isn't free on windows
16:41 < Merthsoft> silverex is
16:42 < Barrett__> oh
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17:14 < BrandonW> "The Win 16 Subsystem has insufficient resources to continue running. Click on OK, close your applications, and restart your machine."
17:14 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v patz2009] by efneTI89
17:15 <+tsrk> xchat is da best
17:16 < i_c-Y> :)
17:21 < Merthsoft> someone highlight me
17:22 < BrandonW> Merthsoft
17:22 < Merthsoft> thanks
17:22 < Merthsoft> ok do it again
17:22 < BrandonW> Merthsoft
17:22 < Merthsoft> ok and again
17:22 < BrandonW> Merthsoft
17:22 < Merthsoft> ok thanks
17:27 < E-J> Merthsoft Merthsoft Merthsoft Merthsoft Merthsoft Merthsoft 
17:29 < Merthsoft> -_-
17:31 < i_c-Y> its turning Merthsoft on
17:31 < Merthsoft> yup
17:31 < E-J> merthhard
17:32 < BrandonW> Finally...BCALL 4A5Fh.
17:32 < BrandonW> That's where all the link stuff is on the 73.
17:32 < BrandonW> It does different things depending on what you put in (asm_ind_call).
17:32 < BrandonW> 34 different things.
17:33 < BrandonW> On the 83+ series, they're all separate BCALLs.
17:33 < mokomull> that sounds nasty as hell
17:33 < E-J> BrandonW: and now you know how dna guys felt when they discovered whole mouse dna?
17:33 < BrandonW> This is old-school, they would do stuff like this on the 86 and 83.
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17:34 < BrandonW> (I'm trying to dump the boot code on my 1.3004 OS TI-73, and since the OS is so old, it has no built-in assembly support and Mallard won't work on it)
17:34 < BrandonW> So my only choice is to attempt the boot code exploit and send it code to run.
17:34 < BrandonW> Code which will transfer the dump back to me.
17:35 < BrandonW> It's incredibly crude, but I really don't want to wipe the OS on this. I'm not positive I dumped it correctly a long time ago, and this is the only calculator I know of with 1.3004.
17:36 < BrandonW> Hence the need to know how to write linking code on it.
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17:41 <@efneTI92> [Randomist] http://wintervenom.mine.nu
17:49 < Nikky> Why?
17:50 < Nikky> OH GOD
17:50 < Nikky> NOT THE HOSE
17:51 < BrandonW> Boot code version 1.3004 apparently really sucks, because the exploit doesn't work on it, and I just trashed the OS. :(
17:51 < V200> hi
17:51 < BrandonW> So time to put 1.91 on there and dump it the normal way, I guess.
17:51 < Nikky> :(
17:51 < Nikky> *cry*
17:52 -!- You're now known as V2000
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17:52 < BrandonW> That really sucks, I should've seen if it had validation data on it before I did that.
17:52 < BrandonW> If it did, we could've generated a valid signature for that 8XU.
17:53 < BrandonW> I guess we'll wait on the 02 key to be cracked.
17:54 < BrandonW> Assuming I dumped it right.
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17:55 < BrandonW> One of these days I need to write a real link logger and find out just exactly why TI Connect keeps causing "ERROR!" when you try to send an OS.
17:55 < BrandonW> That pisses me off to no end.
17:55 < BrandonW> You have to time it just right before the transfer will start.
17:56 < BrandonW> It's a wonder how anyone upgrades the OS.
17:56 < BrandonW> Well, the TI-OS can handle TI Connect being retarded, so if you already have an OS, it's not so bad.
17:56 < BrandonW> But the boot code is stupid.
17:56 < Nikky> It sounds like it
17:56 < Nikky> Have you gotten a job offer from TI yet?
17:56 < BrandonW> nO.
17:56 < Nikky> hmm
17:58 < BrandonW> Is that your way of telling me to hush?
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17:58 <@efneTI92> [_Auron|G1] We called it Sin.
18:01 < BrandonW> If I accurately dumped it, then no, it didn't have a validation signature.
18:01 < BrandonW> Which is curious, because that means you couldn't transfer it from one calculator to another.
18:16 < BrandonW> Huh...
18:16 < BrandonW> The boot code version on that 73 was 1.3005, so it wasn't the one which originally had OS 1.3004.
18:17 < BrandonW> So since it was running on another calculator, I more than likely did dump it correctly.
18:17 < BrandonW> The one which did have boot code version 1.3004 was running OS 1.60, so I already killed it long ago and forgot.
18:17 < BrandonW> Anyway, I got the dump.
18:20 < Nikky> yay
18:20 < Nikky> Now go eat some ice cream
18:20 < BrandonW> I'm going to go do exactly that.
18:28 < smart> WHORES
18:29 < Nikky> Yes you are
18:30 < Nikky> camera slut
18:31 < i_c-Y> what kind of ice cream?
18:31 < Nikky> Mint chocolate chip, of course.
18:31 < mokomull> Nikky++
18:32 < BrandonW> Just chocolate.
18:32 < Nikky> Also acceptable.
18:32 < Randomist> Chocolate-chip cookie dough for the win.  Or just plain vanilla.
18:32 < Nikky> How much Rum did you put in?
18:33 < BrandonW> None.
18:34 < smart> Nikky
18:34 < smart> I got a new camera
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18:35 < smart> T1i
18:35 < Legmirage> Hi
18:36 < smart> HEY MAN
18:36 < smart> WHAT'S NEW?
18:38 < smart> HEY
18:38 < smart> WHERE'D YOU GO?
18:38 < smart> I miss you :-(
18:39 < Merthsoft> quit with the caps
18:39 < smart> Screw you
18:40 < Randomist> http://icculus.org/openbox/tools/irssi-focus.c
18:40 < Merthsoft> excuse me?
18:40 < smart> SCREW YOU
18:40 < smart> Haha
18:40 < Merthsoft> last warning, stop with the caps
18:40 < smart> OH NO IRC COPS ARE COMING
18:40 < smart> See you shortly....
18:40 < smart> I'll be back.,
18:40 < Merthsoft> !k smart 
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18:40 < smart> Last warning about the kicks.
18:41 < BrandonW> You mess with him, you mess with me, bitch.
18:41 < Nikky> smart: What's that?
18:41 < Nikky> T1i?
18:41 < Merthsoft> BrandonW: uh, which one of us are you talking to?
18:42 < BrandonW> smart.
18:42 < smart> Nikky: New Rebel line
18:42 < Merthsoft> oh good.
18:42 < Nikky> Oh
18:42 < smart> BrandonW!
18:42 < smart> How I've missed you.
18:42 < Legmirage> I have a question to ask hear, I was going to buy a calclator, I was down to ti-89T and Nspire-CAS, I bought the 89t after read many not so fav review of Nspire CAS, but I found the screen on ti-89t really hurt my eye on even not so long use(like 30 mins). I like the screen of Nspire CAS a lot more. Now my question is is Nspire CAS going to work for me, if I am not looking to program on it at all? I need one for  graduate school in fi
18:42 < Nikky> I've been camera ignorant
18:42 < Legmirage> Please Help, Thanks a lot.
18:42 < Nikky> I just got a point and shoot
18:42 < BrandonW> No,b ecause the Nspire CAS is crap.
18:42 < BrandonW> It's crap for everything.
18:42 < BrandonW> Math, programming, you name it.
18:42 < BrandonW> It's not a good calculator.
18:42 < BrandonW> It's not a good series.
18:42 < Nikky> What's wrong with the screen?
18:43 < Randomist> Legmirage:  Go for the 89 Titinum.
18:43 < BrandonW> Stick with the TI-89 Titanium.
18:43 < Merthsoft> 89 yeah
18:43 < BrandonW> The Nspire CAS is even harder to see.
18:43 < smart> Nikky: It's nice... does video.
18:43 < smart> 15mp
18:43 < BrandonW> And god help you if you want to use the 84+SE emulator on the Nspire.
18:43 < BrandonW> They removed the border around the edge.
18:43 < Nikky> That's nice
18:43 < BrandonW> You have no idea what part is the Nspire and what part is the 84+SE anymore.
18:43 < Nikky> I might buy a new DSLR when I, you know, have time to use it.
18:43 < BrandonW> They continue to make it worse and worse.
18:43 < smart> Haha
18:43 < smart> I'm finding time to make!
18:44 < Randomist> And I think it has a very bad redraw.
18:47 < Legmirage> I guess I will stick with ti-89t
18:48 < BrandonW> You might want to trade it for a Voyage 200 or something if you hate the case.
18:48 < BrandonW> But for the love of all that is good and holy, don't go toward the Nspire/CAS.
18:49 < Legmirage> The screen has to be view at 90 degree or from "above" if I view it from "below" I will see double lines
18:49 < Legmirage> Is that a defect?
18:49 < BrandonW> On the 89Ti?
18:49 < Legmirage> yeah
18:49 < BrandonW> It's not a defect.
18:50 < Legmirage> I guess I will have to used to lay it down really close to me
18:50 < Legmirage> Voyage 200 is nice, but I highly doubt I will able to use it on tests, ever.
18:52 < Legmirage> Anyways, thanks lot guys
18:59 < smart> So
18:59 < smart> BrandonW
18:59 < smart> In all seriousness
18:59 < smart> Congratulations on everything
18:59 < BrandonW> Thanks.
19:00 < smart> What's the next step for you? And what kind of 'new' OS makes it worth it?
19:01 < BrandonW> I'd like to come up with a stable OS core that contains all the stuff we really need (I/O and USB silent linking and variable sends/receives, program/application execution, and basic math/homescreen support), and then branch the code. From there, people can screw around with it all they want, and I'll take my own branch and run with it, more than likely just improving on everything.
19:01 < BrandonW> And embedding as much stuff as possible into the OS itself.
19:01 < BrandonW> All the hooks and things we wish we could use simultaneously but can't.
19:02 < BrandonW> All the stuff that the TI-OS prevents us from doing, and that we can't fix through OS patches.
19:02 < TD-Linux> I can't send huge apps to my 84+SE
19:02 < smart> Hmmm
19:02 < TD-Linux> or at least it worked once
19:02 < BrandonW> How huge is huge?
19:02 < smart> So in terms of core functions (the math), you have to re-write them?
19:02 < smart> I'm talking adding numbers, etc.
19:02 < BrandonW> What happens, out of memory error?
19:02 < TD-Linux> but now when I try to send a ~1MB app it gives ERR:MEMORY
19:03 < BrandonW> Yes, every bit of this is being done from scratch.
19:03 < TD-Linux> no, when I try to run the app it gives the error
19:03 < smart> Impressive.
19:03 < TD-Linux> I also installed a defragmenter patch that was supposed to fix it but didn't
19:03 < smart> I'll be lurking on ticalc.org occasionally to see what you come up with ;-)
19:03 < BrandonW> You get "ERR:MEMORY" from the APPS screen?
19:03 < BrandonW> You can see that if you have less than 50 bytes of RAM free, but that's probably not your problem.
19:04 < TD-Linux> I don't remember, I could try it again though
19:04 < BrandonW> TI explicitly checks that "50" bytes be free in _ExecuteApp.
19:04 < BrandonW> I have no idea why.
19:04 < BrandonW> And with this new OS, when I do wonky stuff like that, you can just ask me what the hell I was thinking, and I can tell you.
19:04 < BrandonW> Unlike with the TI-OS.
19:05 < chronomex> BrandonW, what were you THINKING
19:05 < smart> BrandonW: How long did it take to get your thing done?
19:05 < smart> Not the signing key
19:06 < smart> I don't even know that guy
19:06 < BrandonW> Benjamin Moody knows as much as I do, he just stays in the shadows.
19:06 < smart> Hah
19:06 < BrandonW> Free83P required a lot of research.
19:07 < smart> I can imagine!
19:07 < BrandonW> Into how the certificate works and all.
19:07 < smart> Anybody heard from TI yet?
19:07 < BrandonW> It's still very unknown.
19:07 < BrandonW> I have some changes today I'd like to make to it.
19:07 < BrandonW> No, TI doesn't care.
19:07 < smart> Hmm
19:08 < Barrett> what??? isn't their e-mail address "ti-cares@education.ti.com" ???
19:08 < smart> Hah
19:10 < Merthsoft> PUDDING!
19:10 < Merthsoft> That's my contribution.
19:11 < BrandonW> They were more concerned over the "Voyage 400" ticalc.org article.
19:11 < Merthsoft> i don't recall that
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19:12 < BrandonW> It was a fake news article, and they kept getting calls about when that model would be available.
19:12 < BrandonW> So they asked them to take it down or specify that it was fake.
19:12 < Merthsoft> lol
19:13 < Merthsoft> what was special about it?
19:13 < BrandonW> I don't remember, lots of fake stuff. Color screen and whatnot.
19:13 < BrandonW> You'd have to find the article.
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19:15 < BrandonW> I can't wait for the day when I retire and upload all my crap like Michael did.
19:16 < BrandonW> I have a lot more.
19:17 < BrandonW> Around 750MB.
19:17 < Merthsoft> i got his stuff
19:17 < Merthsoft> he complimented my code :3
19:19 < BrandonW> I have such an organized folder structure, split by model, applications, documentation / notes, dumps, etc.
19:19 < BrandonW> It's a little sad.
19:19 < chronomex> what's this about Michael's stuff?
19:20 < BrandonW> He uploaded various calculator stuff that no one had ever seen before.
19:20 < chronomex> where?
19:20 < BrandonW> It's in his retirement article.
19:20 < BrandonW> I'd seen it before.
19:20 < chronomex> aye
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19:32 <+Netham45> I love that this line will crash HL2, if entered into the dev console: alias alias alias; alias
19:35 < Randomist> Yay, I have Irssi-style window-switching now.
19:35 < Merthsoft> are most headphone jacks 3.5mm or 2.5mm?
19:35 < Randomist> Merthsoft:  The former.
19:35 < Merthsoft> ok thanks
19:35 < chronomex> 3.5mm ~= 1/8"
19:35 < chronomex> Nikky: are you around?
19:35 < Nikky> no
19:36 < Nikky> What's happening?
19:37  * chronomex pushes article
19:37 < Nikky> whoo
19:37 < Nikky> Took you long enough
19:37 < Nikky> ;)
19:37 < chronomex> ...
19:37 < Nikky> Maybe not
19:37  * chronomex wonders if he should put a "(and greetings from your interim news editor!)" at the bottom
19:37 < Nikky> What are you talking about?
19:38 < chronomex> nah
19:38 < Nikky> ticalc is dead
19:38 < Nikky> long live ticalc
19:38 < chronomex> OMG I KILLED IT?!?
19:38 < BrandonW> I FINALLY got Calcsys to build.
19:39 < chronomex> nice!
19:39 < chronomex> why was it so hard?
19:39 < Randomist> Yay?
19:39 < BrandonW> How does Dan ever expect anyone to assemble his stuff if he doesn't include his include files?!
19:39 < chronomex> :(
19:39 < BrandonW> I had to hunt down the meaning of all of it.
19:39 < BrandonW> And discovered that Dan knew about the 73 I/O BCALL thing.
19:39 < BrandonW> He even gave it the name of Exec_IO.
19:39 < chronomex> man
19:39 < BrandonW> I would love to see WHERE that is in an include file...
19:39 < chronomex> rat bastard
19:41 < smart> Is Dan still around?
19:41 < chronomex> >>> NUMBER OF PENDING FILES: 1
19:41 < chronomex> WHAT
19:41 < BrandonW> He drops in from time to time.
19:41 < chronomex> Nikky: this is your chance!
19:41 < Nikky> WHAT%
19:41 < Nikky> H)LY SHIT
19:41  * chronomex boggles
19:42 < i_c-Y> <BrandonW> How does Dan ever expect anyone to assemble his stuff if he doesn't include his include files?! < he doesnt
19:42 < i_c-Y> !q
19:43 <@efneTI86> 113: <NikkSleep> if you invite it to a channel it will most certainly kline you [21:18:34] <Mike_K> i just invited him [21:18:38] <Mike_K> and im still alive! [21:18:44] * Mike_K has quit (Connection closed) [Added: patrickd at 2005/06/10 00:23]
19:44 < chronomex> ha
19:46 < E-J> usain bolt - 9.58
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20:00 < jr> he is fast.
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20:11 < Andy_J> !qfind high score
20:11 <@efneTI86> 1012:Andy_J: * Dan_E is a high school math teacher | <Dan_E> One of the other math teachers asked me what my high score was in blockdude | <Dan_E> And I got to be like, "Open up Puzzle Pack ... See that part where it says "Dan Englender" on the title screen?  THat's my high score"
20:11  * Andy_J waits
20:11 <@efneTI86> (All of 1 match)
20:11 < BrandonW> Sure, NOW I find Michael's old VB Intel Hex line checksum program.
20:15 < BrandonW> I have crap scattered all over my drives.
20:15 < BrandonW> Just when I think I have it organized...I don't.
20:15 < Nikky> Hai andy
20:15 < BrandonW> I did find the RealSound stuff, though.
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20:24 < E-J> thaben
20:26 < Tahben> Eh-J
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20:27 < smart> Kitty lady!
20:27 < smart> Haha
20:31 < E-J> sleep time
20:31 <+Netham45> !q
20:31 <@efneTI86> 289: <npsken> where's the simplify button, or menu? [Added: DrDnar at 2005/09/28 22:03]
20:32 <+Netham45> !quoteurl
20:32 <@efneTI86> http://tcpa.aardy.net/quotes/
20:32 < E-J> i'd like to know context of 289
20:33 < Tahben> the context was dating.
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20:33 <+Netham45> !qsay 289
20:33 <@efneTI86> 289: <npsken> where's the simplify button, or menu? [Added DrDnar at 2005/09/28 22:03]
20:33 <+Netham45> oh
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20:34 <+patz2009> stupid netsplit
20:35 < E-J> ah
20:37 < Tahben> I am starting miss speakers on my computer.
20:38 < E-J> is it like miss universum, but for speakers?
20:38 < E-J> ...
20:40 < Tahben> I thought you were going nighty night.
20:41 < E-J> i was, and standard of my stories shows it
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20:42 < Randomist> This week is going by too slow!
20:43 < E-J> so before end of this week (17 minutes until monday) i'll go to sleep
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20:45 < Randomist> If is 1545.57 here, it must be 2345.57.
20:47 < E-J> [23:45:48]  <Randomist> If is 1545.57 here, it must be 2345.57.
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20:56 <@efneTI92> [sir_lewk_] http://www.cs.drexel.edu/~jlg95  I have much DATA in VELOCIRAPTORS AND PHILOSOPH
20:56 < sir_lewk_> huh
20:56 < Andy_J> uhu
20:56 < sir_lewk_> I'm already logged on somewhere
20:56 < sir_lewk> ooh, here
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20:57 < sir_lewk> ah, but not in a screen session
20:57 < Nikky> haha, fail
20:57 < Andy_J> ^
20:57 < Randomist> u u h h u u h h huh huh huh huh...
20:57 < Andy_J> alias irssi='screen irssi'
20:58 < Nikky> alias andy='andyj is awesome'
20:58 < Randomist> * echo
20:58 < sir_lewk> but then when I'm already in a screen session and try to run irssi, I'd spawn another
20:58 < Nikky> Randomist: ?
20:58 < Nikky> that's a program
20:58 < Randomist> sir_lewk:  Make it a function.
20:58 < Nikky> bash dumbshit
20:58 < sir_lewk> meh
20:59 < sir_lewk> and zsh kicks bashes ass ;P
20:59 < Nikky> ^
20:59 < Nikky> <3 zsh
20:59 < Randomist> sir_lewk:   `pidof screen` && screen irssi || irssi
20:59 < sir_lewk> hells yeah
20:59 < sir_lewk> meh
21:00 < Randomist> Er, that should be the other way around, but you get what I mean.  :P
21:00 < sir_lewk> ya
21:00 < sir_lewk> brb
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21:01 < E-J> it's monday, and i'm still awake
21:01 < E-J> ->
21:01 < Randomist> E-J.sleep()
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21:02 < sir_lewk> thar, much better
21:03 < sir_lewk> also, new ticalc.org news
21:03 < BrandonW> Yay!
21:03 < sir_lewk> http://www.ticalc.org/archives/news/articles/14/145/145178.html
21:03 < sir_lewk> BBC Basic tetris game
21:04 < BrandonW> I think that's a smaller file size than ZTris.
21:04 < sir_lewk> nice
21:05 < BrandonW> No, it matches more or less.
21:05 < Randomist> Until you count in the dependencies.
21:05 < Randomist> It's like the way XMonad is small and lightweight until you count in the half-a-gigabyte GHC compiler.
21:05 < BrandonW> But I think they're both smaller than ZTetris.
21:05 < sir_lewk> GHC is a half-gigabyte?
21:06 < Randomist> :: Total Installed Size: 574.03 MiB
21:07 < sir_lewk> huh, just the ghc package in fedora is 270 M
21:07 < sir_lewk> biger than I expected
21:20 < Barrett> http://calcg.org/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?t=8616
21:21 < BrandonW> Buy a new one.
21:21 < DSP_Lord> Barrett
21:21 < i_c-Y> friggin haskell
21:21 < DSP_Lord> make the ads on the left and right go away, they're atrocious.
21:21 < i_c-Y> get a gun
21:21 < BrandonW> He can't do that.
21:21 < i_c-Y> shoot the calc
21:21 < i_c-Y> and try to claim warranty on it
21:21 < BrandonW> He has to make as much money as possible off us.
21:22 < DSP_Lord> top and bottom would be much better.
21:22 < Barrett> BrandonW, meaning "lose as little money as possible"
21:22 < Barrett> DSP_Lord, I know some people who disagree
21:22 <+patz2009> He already has ones on the top and bottom, haha
21:22 < DSP_Lord> those people clearly are stupid.
21:22 < BrandonW> You don't count, Barrett.
21:22 < i_c-Y> well he did buy 2 barebone servers, put in absurd parts for them and host them at a real datacenter
21:22 < i_c-Y> instead of spending 5 dollars for shared hosting.
21:22 < i_c-Y> a month.
21:22 < DSP_Lord> left and right makes shit not fit on one page.
21:22 < Barrett> DSP_Lord, what resolution are you on?
21:22 < i_c-Y> seriously
21:23 < DSP_Lord> uh...
21:23  * DSP_Lord checks
21:23 < i_c-Y> ssd's for a webserver?
21:23 < DSP_Lord> 1024x768
21:23 < Barrett> i_c-Y, I don't use the SSDs for any webserver
21:23 < BrandonW> Barrett, what monthly bills are you having to pay?
21:23 < Barrett> $205
21:23 < BrandonW> For the datacenter?
21:23 < Barrett> yes
21:24 < Barrett> that's 3Us of space and bandwidth
21:24 < BrandonW> Has this site ever been on shared hosting?
21:24 < Barrett> yes
21:24 < BrandonW> What were the problems?
21:24 < Barrett> well, the problems go way back
21:25 < Barrett> initially we were on a free site... which stopped being offered all together
21:25 < Barrett> so we went to a $50/year place, and we got too big for it
21:25 < BrandonW> Too big in what way?
21:25 < Barrett> then we went to unitedhosting.co.uk, and they kicked us off because at the time we had ROMs on the site
21:25 < Barrett> bandwidth
21:25 < BrandonW> Do you use more bandwidth than any shared hosting could ever offer?
21:25 < Barrett> also now we use way more disk space than that service allowed us to have
21:26 < BrandonW> How much disk space do you use?
21:26 < Barrett> then we went to webhosting.cx, and they're still around, but they stopped existing
21:26 < Barrett> BrandonW, um.... a lot
21:26 < BrandonW> Ballpark it.
21:26 < Barrett> just for calcg.org?
21:26 < Barrett> or everything?
21:26 < BrandonW> For calcg.org. What else is there?
21:26 < Barrett> several other websites, and now we have 8 or 9 virtual machines
21:27 < Barrett> for just calcg.org, about 2GB
21:27 < BrandonW> Are any calculator related?
21:27 < i_c-Y> you use 2 GB, and your shared hosting couldnt deal with it?
21:27 < Barrett> i_c-Y, the first one we had, that is correct
21:27 < i_c-Y> so now you're spending 205 a month?
21:27 < Barrett> we left the other services for different reasons
21:27 < i_c-Y> so you didnt move to decent shared hosting?
21:28 < Randomist> Damn, you cnanged hosting more than I changed usernames.  :P
21:28 < Barrett> we did, but we left each of the other 2 for different reasons
21:28 < BrandonW> This feels like AlienCC paying a ridiculous amount of money to keep United-TI running.
21:28 < BrandonW> I'm not sure it's necessary.
21:28 < Barrett> then we went to serverbeach, but switched to collocation because I could get much much better hardware and pay the same per month
21:29 < Barrett> ($109/month back then)
21:29 < Barrett> and now in order to offer virtual private servers, I added a second server and a switch (second server for on-site backups)
21:30 < Barrett> that plus a 24/7 access card plus 16 additional IP addresses brought it up to $205
21:30 < BrandonW> Do these other sites bring in any money at all?
21:30 < Randomist> BrandonW:  Maybe you can host UTI on your server?
21:30 < Barrett> BrandonW, yes
21:30 < Randomist> Or Digital+
21:30 < BrandonW> Randomist, I think I would rather die.
21:30 < Randomist> * _Digital could
21:30 < i_c-Y> so how much down are you a month?
21:30 < Barrett> there are 3 people from this channel who are paying me, and a couple others outside of the channel
21:30 < i_c-Y> 199.99?
21:30 < BrandonW> Who?
21:31 < i_c-Y> Netham45
21:31 < i_c-Y> ox40
21:31 < i_c-Y> and probably some other loser.
21:31 < i_c-Y> like ports
21:31 < Randomist> Ports.
21:31 < BrandonW> lol
21:31 < Barrett> sorry, while yes, I'm still in the red, it's nowhere near $200 in the red
21:31 < i_c-Y> i would have gone with dreamhost or something 
21:32 < i_c-Y> Barrett: is it aobve 100 in the red a month?
21:32 < BrandonW> I don't know if it's smart or not, but I use DreamHost, which is "unlimited" space and bandwidth for ~$200/year, and I signed on when they had a special $20-for-first-two-years offer.
21:32 < Barrett> no
21:32 < i_c-Y> not to mention the few thousand in hardware
21:32 < Barrett> probably about $30 or $40/month in the red
21:33 < i_c-Y> you could spend 5 - 10 dollars / month for the service
21:33 < i_c-Y> and not deal with all the admin work and with better service.
21:33 < i_c-Y> if you just got decent shared hosting
21:33 < i_c-Y> without all the hardware costs
21:33 < Barrett> I deal with the admin work because it's educational
21:34 < Barrett> and once I get the VPS site up and running, I'm hoping to make a profit
21:34 < Barrett> not far fetched at all
21:34 < BrandonW> I'm about an hour away from having this XP PC on for 60 days, at which point I'll be forced to restart from running out of resources.
21:34 < Barrett> I'd need like 2 customers to pay a standard price
21:35 <+Netham45> http://bash.org/?106579
21:35 <+Netham45> haha
21:37 < Barrett> BrandonW, how much space and bandwidth do you actually use? out of curiosity
21:38 < BrandonW> I've never once looked.
21:38 < Barrett> oh... well, I could probably offer you a VPS that covers it for less than you'll be paying after those 2 years are up
21:39 < BrandonW> That's not curiosity, that's trying to sell me something.
21:39 < i_c-Y> the real problem si would you want Barrett to be behind your webhosting?
21:39 < Randomist> Hahaha.
21:39 <+Netham45> I havn't had any issues with Barrett's hosting.
21:39 < Barrett> i_c-Y, you have to admit that I've come a long way...
21:39 < i_c-Y> you know what Barrett 's support plan is?
21:39 < i_c-Y> ask #tcpa 
21:39 < i_c-Y> when something goes wrong...
21:39 < i_c-Y> ask #tcpa
21:40 < Barrett> i_c-Y, when's the last time I had to do that?
21:40 < Randomist> Girlfrined.
21:41 < Randomist> But everyone comes here for love advice.  :P
21:41 < jr> krisk doesn't
21:41 < Randomist> He comes here to...
21:42 < Barrett> nah... whenever I talk about my love life in here it's generally me complaining
21:42 < Barrett> not asking for advice
21:42 < i_c-Y> he's beyond hope anyway
21:42 < BrandonW> Last month I used 7GB of bandwidth. And I'm using about 7GB of space.
21:42 < Nikky> Knock knock
21:42 < BrandonW> Who's there?
21:42 < Barrett> BrandonW, yep... $10 a month... and you'd have much more space than that
21:43 < BrandonW> I currently have unlimited.
21:43 < BrandonW> I'm happy.
21:43 <+patz2009> lol
21:43 < BrandonW> Something else will come along in 2 years.
21:43 < Nikky> Not Barrett's love life!
21:43 < BrandonW> Stop trying to sell me something.
21:43 < Randomist> But this bridge is wonderful, and you must have it.
21:44 < Nikky> BrandonW: Would you be interested in my hosting service?
21:44 < BrandonW> Probably not.
21:44 < Nikky> You could have 10MB of space, and 20Mb of bandwidth a month.
21:44 < Randomist> All for a low, low price of $99,999.99.
21:44 < Nikky> For $400
21:44 < BrandonW> Hm...
21:45 < Nikky> And our techs wear bikinis
21:45 < Barrett> what's funny is that Nikky has a free VPS, so he could offer whatever he wants and get away with it unless I find out :)
21:45 < Nikky> And you can watch them work on your server via webcam
21:45 < BrandonW> That settles it, Nikky...absolutely not.
21:45 < Randomist> Nikky:  You should have said "calculators," and you'd have had him sold.
21:45 < BrandonW> I don't want to see a bunch of half-naked computer geeks.
21:45 < Nikky> They aren't very attractive either
21:45 < Barrett> I think someone should port apache to the 89
21:46 < BrandonW> Blue8x will allow you to host a web site on your 84+/SE!
21:46 < Nikky> Do it Barrett
21:46 < Barrett> I could easily fit 20 89s in 1U of rackspace
21:47 < BrandonW> If I ever actually get the application to that point, I will absolutely run an 84+SE off AC power and keep it tethered to my PC, and serve pages off it.
21:47 < Nikky> Nerd.
21:47 < Barrett> BrandonW, that would be awesome
21:48 < BrandonW> But at that point, I might as well write something PC-side to direct requests to the calculator via USB.
21:48 < BrandonW> That's far more likely to actually get done.
21:50 < Barrett> I would love to have an IRC bot that emulated a ti-89
21:51 < Barrett> well, actually what I mean is that interfaces with an 89
21:51 < Barrett> forwards I/O
21:52 < Barrett> hey, so when I try to get this "factMsieveQ.pl.txt" file from unitedti, it says I don't have permission
21:52 < Barrett> (I even created an account and logged in)
21:53 < BrandonW> Conspiracy.
21:53 < i_c-Y> grahmkendall.net is run off a ti 89
21:54 < i_c-Y> with mmuch data on the ti 89
21:55 <+patz2009> literally
21:55 < Merthsoft> my harddrive just made a fluttery/gugle-y noise
21:55 < Merthsoft> grugle
21:55 < Merthsoft> i'm scared
21:59 < i_c-Y> back yo shit up
21:59 < i_c-Y> and get a new drive
22:00 < BrandonW> Wow, that...that never occurred to me.
22:00 < BrandonW> That's genius right there.
22:00 < Merthsoft> man, that's always a bitch to do
22:01 < BrandonW> I have 1.5GB on this PC and ran out of space, so I'm moving stuff to the other PC I just put together.
22:01 < BrandonW> For now, it'll be a file server I guess.
22:01 < BrandonW> 1.5TB*
22:02 < Merthsoft> imma make a pb&j sandwich
22:02 < BrandonW> Me too.
22:02 < Merthsoft> and eat some pudding wit it
22:02 < Merthsoft> with even
22:02 < BrandonW> That's where I stop.
22:02 < Merthsoft> BrandonW: cruchy or creamy
22:02 < BrandonW> Creamy.
22:02 < Merthsoft> yes.
22:03 < Merthsoft> what kind of jelly?
22:03 < BrandonW> I forget...
22:03 < Merthsoft> shit
22:03 < Merthsoft> i'm going with raspberry
22:03 < BrandonW> I change my mind, I'm just going to order pizza.
22:07 < Merthsoft> oh damn
22:07 < Merthsoft> can i come over?
22:07 < Randomist> Maybe Lighttpd, but Apache is a beheomoth.
22:07 < BrandonW> If you can make it here by 6:49PM.
22:07 < Merthsoft> i don't think i can
22:07 < Randomist> Jet.
22:08 < Merthsoft> i'll just get the university helicopter
22:08 < BrandonW> If I actually managed to do that over Bluetooth, I will have lost my mind by the time we get to TCP/IP.
22:08 < BrandonW> It will support the absolute bare minimum to get a page from it.
22:08 < Merthsoft> order a pizza over bluetooth?
22:08 < BrandonW> Yes.
22:08 < Merthsoft> i'm confused
22:08 < Randomist> Good.
22:09  * Randomist can't believe he can read his screen from so far awak.
22:09 < Randomist> * away
22:10 < Randomist> It's like Telnet83 fontset at 1280x800.
22:10 < Barrett> http://www.unitedti.org/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=2729
22:10 < Barrett> can any of you download that file?
22:10 < Barrett> it's not letting me.
22:10 < i_c-Y> works for me.
22:11 < Barrett> can you post it somewhere or is it short enough to PM?
22:11 < Randomist> http://wintervenom.pastebin.com/d5311f9be
22:11 < Barrett> thank you
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22:15 < Tari> woah
22:15 < Tari> I double-clicked on the window border and it resized to fill the screen vertically
22:15 < Tari> without resizing horizontally
22:16  * Randomist has Ratpoison mode on in Openbox, so he has no window borders to click.  :P
22:17 < Andy_J> on what, tari?
22:18 < Tari> windows 7
22:18 < BrandonW> I must've supercharged the G1 all day yesterday in the car, because it's been all day and it's still at 100%.
22:18 < Tari> specifically, it was the bottom border (when the cursor changes to two vertical arrows)
22:18 < Randomist> Someone give me some Unicode/
22:18 < Randomist> * ?
22:19 < Barrett> I imagine you could get very very good battery life in airplane mode
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22:19 < Tari> ‮have an RLO
22:19 < Randomist> * Can
22:19 < Barrett> BrandonW, did yours come with 1.5?
22:19 < Barrett> (OS version)
22:19 < Tari> I don't know if it actually puts the RLO in that string
22:20 < Andy_J> ¯\(°_o)/¯
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22:31 < BrandonW> I think so, Barrett.
22:31 < BrandonW> I've since rooted it.
22:47 < ryantmer_> Question: Does anyone here live in the US near Waterloo (I guess near Chicago-ish)?
22:48 < ryantmer_> Er
22:49 < ryantmer_> No
22:49 < ryantmer_> I mean Buffalo-ish
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23:47 < Nikky> JWM is by far superior.
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23:50 <@efneTI92> [_Auron_] We called it Sin.
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