--- Log opened Wed Aug 12 00:00:45 2009
00:04 < _Auron|G1> Barrett: messed with Tankers lately?
00:05 < Barrett> _Auron|G1: nah, I just got home from work
00:05 < _Auron|G1> I haven't really worked on the tilemapper today. next half will be hard to do
00:05 < Barrett> what's next?
00:05 < _Auron|G1> the tilemapper I guess
00:05 < Barrett> oh, have you done anything on the tilemapper yet?
00:06 < _Auron|G1> then map editor, tile collision, proper movement, bullets
00:06 < _Auron|G1> yeah
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00:06 < _Auron|G1> currently a screen full of tiles is 1quad/frame
00:06 < Barrett> quad?
00:06 < _Auron|G1> pair of triangles
00:06 < Barrett> ah
00:06 < _Auron|G1> in opengl
00:06 < Barrett> got it
00:07 < Barrett> so do you mean that all of the tiles are combined? or do you mean that 1 tile is drawn per frame?
00:07 < _Auron|G1> scrolling the map is the tricky part with the optimal rendering I'm doing
00:07 < _Auron|G1> all
00:07 < Barrett> cool
00:08 < Barrett> well, can the camera just be moved?
00:08 < _Auron|G1> I do an update by rendering tiles to the screen, copy screen to texture, then render that texture
00:08 < incubus> hi
00:08 < Randomist> 'Lo.
00:08 < _Auron|G1> problem is calculating where/when to draw bordering/new tiles as it scrolls
00:09 < Barrett> I see
00:09 < _Auron|G1> where in the texture I mean
00:09 < Barrett> have you committed your most recent changes?
00:09 < _Auron|G1> not yet
00:09 < Randomist> _Auron|G1:  Will you port 'Stroids to run on desktop Linux?
00:09 < _Auron|G1> will do when I go back inside
00:09 < Barrett> k, when you get a chance... I'll look at it and get familiar with it
00:09 < Randomist> * one day
00:09 < _Auron|G1> Randomist: no
00:10 < Randomist> ;(
00:10 < Randomist> * :
00:13 < _Auron|G1> Barrett: cool
00:14 < _Auron|G1> not sure when I'll actually begin working on Arkanis, hmm
00:14 < _Auron|G1> I'll need to ask Merth
00:15 < Barrett> _Auron|G1: to be completely honest with you, I'm more excited to work on the game logic rather than graphics :)
00:15 < _Auron|G1> that's fine :P
00:16 < Merthsoft> me too
00:17 < _Auron|G1> I like working on core engine code
00:17 < Barrett> I wish there was an easier way to just display 2D images quickly
00:17 < _Auron|G1> ?
00:17 < _Auron|G1> than my engine?
00:18 < Barrett> no
00:18 < Barrett> than OpenGL
00:18 < _Auron|G1> oh
00:18 < _Auron|G1> well my engine simplifies opengl so doing so IS easy
00:18 < Barrett> just like... loadImage(FILE).... drawImage(x,y)
00:18 < _Auron|G1> .. yeah
00:18 < _Auron|G1> look at the source :D
00:19 < _Auron|G1> in DrawEngine.java
00:19 < Randomist> Are both the game and engine open or just the game?
00:19 < Barrett> k
00:19 < Randomist> * engine
00:19 < _Auron|G1> the engine will be open source next month
00:19 < _Auron|G1> after adc2 entries are closed
00:20 < _Auron|G1> you don't have to know any opengl to use my engine
00:21 < _Auron|G1> it still needs polished work to be more versatile though
00:24 < _Auron|G1> but right now you just do texture = new imgData( blah blah blah, resource ); sprite = new Sprite(texture, x, y, width, height, spriteW, spriteH ); and Entity.draw(Sprite, x, y);
00:24 < Barrett> nifty
00:26 < _Auron|G1> indeed. if you implement entity and make new objects (bullet array, particle array, enemy array, etc) you can change sprite images with e.x. Enemy.setImage(Image.enemyHellion); or w/e
00:27 < _Auron|G1> not currently included with Tankers yet, but methods I made for Stroids have Entity.Spawn() and Entity.UpdateAll() unique to each object
00:28 < _Auron|G1> so Particle.Spawn makes a new particle at x,y with a certain rotation, and color.
00:29 < _Auron|G1> the update method moves all the particles that are alive and decreases their life and alpha values
00:29 < _Auron|G1> then DrawAll scans for living objects and draws them
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00:30 < _Auron|G1> but whenever I spawn/kill objects I update that object's counter. the counter tells me how many objects I need to check for whe updating and drawing
00:31 < _Auron|G1> so if I have a potential 200 particles but only 30 are alive, when I scan through and have interacted with 30 of them, the loop exits and its done
00:31 < _Auron|G1> so clocks aren't wasted scanning for living objects
00:31 < _Auron|G1> it's rather efficient
00:32 < Barrett> couldn't you have a different data structure dedicated to living objects?
00:32 < _Auron|G1> I could but you'd still have to scan for open slots
00:32 < Barrett> what do you mean by open slots?
00:33 < Barrett> you just do a linked list
00:33 < Barrett> or some other structure depending on what you need it to do
00:34 < _Auron|G1> what about when an object dies?
00:34 < Barrett> you unlink it and close the gap
00:34 < Barrett> (it'd need to be a 2-way link)
00:35 < Barrett> so you'd do this.prev.next = this.next and this.next.prev = this.prev
00:35 < _Auron|G1> ehh
00:35 < _Auron|G1> somehow I think memory would be caught by the garbage collector though
00:36 < Barrett> nah
00:36 < _Auron|G1> which is REALLY REALLY bad in android
00:36 < Barrett> you could keep them in different structures as well
00:36 < _Auron|G1> for games anyways
00:36 < Barrett> you'd just use the linked list for iteration
00:36 < _Auron|G1> well I'm okay with my current setup
00:36 < Barrett> assuming it's as similar to java as I thought it was...
00:37 < _Auron|G1> it doesn't impact framerate at all from cpu usage
00:37 < Barrett> well, that can be one of the things that I contribute :)
00:37 < Barrett> in tankers, that is
00:37 < _Auron|G1> heh okay
00:37 < _Auron|G1> if you want to
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01:36 < BrandonW> A teacher e-mailed me asking about putting their own message in the About screen.
01:36 < BrandonW> For all of their calculators.
01:36 < BrandonW> Why TI won't just give this feature to the teachers, lord only knows
01:37 <+noah__> TI does odd things
01:37 < BrandonW> I'd love nothing more than to release a program where you give it the message and it does that, but I just can't. The certificate is still too unknown.
01:38 < Randomist> s:message:picture:
01:38 < BrandonW> TI will put in a "For Singapore" reset option, but won't do this?
01:38 < BrandonW> Words, Randomist...what are you trying to say?
01:39 < BrandonW> It's not a picture in the certificate, it's variable width text.
01:39 < Randomist> BrandonW:  Couldn't you just have it execute something whenever you hit the "About" screen?
01:39 < BrandonW> If I patch the OS, sure, but that's not what this is about.
01:39 < BrandonW> This survives all resets and even OS resends.
01:39 < BrandonW> An OS patch won't survive an OS resend.
01:39 < Randomist> But how many teachers are going to be doing that?
01:39 < BrandonW> Well, this one.
01:40 < BrandonW> And his 200+ calculators.
01:40 < Randomist> Yowsa.
01:40 < BrandonW> And his students will try it.
01:40 < BrandonW> Thinking it will get rid of it.
01:40 < BrandonW> Only it won't.
01:41 < Randomist> Bet no one want ever match having that many caluclators.  :)
01:41 < Randomist> * -a +o
01:41 < Randomist> * -uc +cu
01:41 < BrandonW> You deserve it:
01:41 < BrandonW> ...
01:41 < BrandonW> I have no idea what letter you're trying to correct.
01:41 < BrandonW> Try again.
01:41 < BrandonW> won't*?
01:42 < Randomist> * won't...calculators
01:42 < BrandonW> Match in what way?
01:42 < BrandonW> Now that I think about it, not even Free83P's doing it right, you're supposed to have a signature at the end of the certification block, which I don't.
01:42 < Randomist> Remember I have broken English.  :)
01:43 < BrandonW> Yeah, but I'm trying to figure out what your original point was.
01:44 < Randomist> "Aoonue ouhi sou aoi, oihe sho-tohui oiseh, onhou ose, ase.'  That was my original poin.  :P
01:44 < Randomist> I know, I know:  "..."
01:44 < BrandonW> point*, I'll assume.
01:45 < Merthsoft> BrandonW: What's a "for singapore" reset?
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01:47 < BrandonW> Hold down 8 and 2 while turning an 84+/SE on (OS 2.43+) and you get "DELETE APPS, PROGRAMS FOR SINGAPORE".
01:47 < BrandonW> And ESC and OK softkeys.
01:47 < BrandonW> If you select ESC, it just boots normally, and if you press OK, it does a full memory reset except it preserves a few language localization applications.
01:47 < BrandonW> Based on name, so if you create an app with such a name, it'll survive that reset.
01:48 < BrandonW> Holding down 8 and 5 is the same thing except you don't get "FOR SINGAPORE" and it preserves a few less applications.
01:49 < Randomist> Why just Singapore?
01:49 < BrandonW> That's an excellent question.
01:49 < BrandonW> Only TI knows.
01:49 < Merthsoft> weird
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01:49 < BrandonW> It makes you wonder what TI's doing with these things.
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01:50 < Tari> probably some assembly done there
01:50 < Tari> so they can test in native lang
01:50 <+glk> Big meteor shower tonight
01:50 < Randomist> glk:  Where at?
01:50 <+glk>  all over, peaks 3 am central timel
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01:51 < C2> why does it stink here...
01:52 < BrandonW> Because it's #tcpa.
01:52 < C2> j/k
01:52 < Tribal> lol
01:52 < BrandonW> Are you legitimately asking why everyone says it sucks?
01:52 < Tribal> @brandonw
01:52 < BrandonW> Such as your apparent #omnimaga cohorts?
01:53 < BrandonW> Bad joke from /whois.
01:53 < Tribal> That was me, I was just messing around
01:53 < Tribal> sry
01:53 < BrandonW> That sounds about right.
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01:53 < BrandonW> Why can't people stick to one nick and be happy?
01:53 < BrandonW> Why the constant need to deceive?
01:53 < Merthsoft> i stick with my nick
01:53 <+Netham45> I bet Randomist knows why, BrandonW.
01:54 < Merthsoft> i may change to shaun though
01:54 < Tribal> I have one nick
01:54 < Tribal> It's a chanbot
01:54 < Merthsoft> C2 is a bot?
01:54 < Tribal> yeah, monitors my chan
01:55 < Merthsoft> and you brought your bot in here?
01:55 <+noah_> uh-oh 
01:55 < Tribal> is that against the rules?
01:55 < BrandonW> That's grounds for immediate death, sir.
01:55 < Merthsoft> you realize that's a banable offence, right?
01:55 < Randomist> Tribal:  You're not supposed to tell us that.
01:55 <+noah_> tribal say it was you quickly
01:55 < rcfreak0> it was tribal
01:55 < Tribal> no, I'm being honest
01:55 < Randomist> Botsa are allowed as long as no one knows that is what it is.
01:55 < Merthsoft> don't do it again
01:55 < Randomist> * Bots
01:57 < BrandonW> I'm sure making a bot and other screwery with IRC is fun and all, but it's not conducive to a good conversation.
01:57 < BrandonW> Neither is nick-changing.
01:57 < BrandonW> Or pretty much anything else that distracts from reading and typing.
01:58 <+noah_> such as massive bot fights?
01:58 < BrandonW> Yes.
01:58 <+noah_> where they keep on oping each other
01:58 < Randomist> We've got blankie, filler, and Mwyann.  They ain't ever said a word.  They're probably bots.  But I don't know, so they're good.  :P
01:58 < BrandonW> And this channel.
01:58 < BrandonW> But that's beside the point!
01:58 < Randomist> noah_:  Maybe it's not a bot fight.  Maybe it's bot-sex.  They need to be neutered.  :P
01:59 < Merthsoft> d
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02:16 <+glk> http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20090811/sc_space/strongmeteorshowerexpectedtonight
02:17 < Tribal> cool
02:17 < Tribal> I don't think I ever saw a meteor shower
02:19 < Randomist> Ditto.
02:19 <+glk> Tonight is a good chance
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02:20 <@efneTI92> [TheStorm] Yes rivereye, it is time to go fishing.
02:20 < Spengo> Tribal, really?
02:20 < Spengo> you should
02:20 < Spengo> Tribal, make sure you go out of the city though
02:20 < Spengo> lights from the ground really blot out the stars
02:21 < Tribal> I'm not in a big city
02:21 < Spengo> even in suburbs
02:21 < Randomist> I wish I was in Levelland.
02:21 < Spengo> gotta go out into the country or around a mountain
02:21 < Randomist> There is no light pollution there.
02:21 <+glk> Meteors can be seen in the city as they are bright
02:21 < Tribal> Where's Levelland?
02:21 <+glk> Moon light will be a problem
02:22 < Spengo> glk, yeah they can but it doesn't look nearly as awesome
02:22 < Randomist> Tribal:  http://maps.google.com/maps?q=&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&ie=UTF8&split=0&gl=us&ei=PyeCStC5MYuENqSbiJoL&hl=en&geocode=FWVlAAIdg_7l-Q
02:22 < Tribal> Randomist, it just goes to maps.google.com basically
02:22 < Spengo> I had a dream once where I went to the future and the ISS was turned into a quaint hotel
02:23 < Tribal> Lowelland, CO?
02:23 < Tribal> oh wait
02:23 < Tribal> nvm
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02:23 < Tribal> Randomist, country?
02:23 < Randomist> Yeah.  It's small.
02:24 < Tribal> No, I meant what country, usa? lol
02:24 < Randomist> Texas.
02:24 < Tribal> ah
02:26 < Randomist> The college I am going to seems to by right on the edge.  Behind my dorm and the track area, nothing but grassfields and an oil rig.
02:28 < Randomist> Once you walk past the billboards for every church in Levelland for a while, you're probably out of the limits.  :P
02:28 < BrandonW> Texas is not a country.
02:29 < Randomist> I know what me meant, just too lazy to be grammar Nazi when I can't even grammar myself.
02:29 < Randomist> * he
02:29 < Tribal> Looking at it from streetview, it does look a small, kinda like my town lol
02:33 < Merthsoft> it hsoudl be its own country
02:34 < Barrett> http://calcg.org/?tmplt=16
02:39 < Randomist> Barrett:  http://wintervenom.brandonw.net/Screenshots
02:40 < Barrett> what the heck browser is that?
02:41 < Randomist> Firefox.
02:41 < Randomist> "Shiretoko" is its development name.
02:41 < Barrett> so is that a stable version?
02:41 < Randomist> Yes.
02:41 < Tribal> stable
02:41 < Tribal> *?
02:41 < Randomist> Arch can't distribute with the official branding because its been patched.
02:42 < Tribal> I thought it was 3.5.3pre1
02:42 < i_c-Y> why not the iceweasel project?
02:42 < Barrett> Randomist: how about now?
02:43 < Randomist> Barrett:  Works now.
02:43 < Barrett> (Randomist: it's because your font is huge...)
02:43 < Barrett> (not that that's not my fault...)
02:43 < Barrett> just saying
02:43 < Tribal> It did the same thing for me though
02:44 < Randomist> Firefox's default font size is sixteen points.
02:44 < Tribal> ah
02:44 < Barrett> ok, Randomist... will you refresh and upload another screenshot please?
02:46 < Randomist> Barrett:  Refresh screenshot.
02:47 < Barrett> that's... interesting...
02:47 < Barrett> I specified an exact pixel size yet it's still way bigger (I'm just talking about the links at the very top)
02:48 < Barrett> I guess I haven't specified the font
02:48 < Barrett> that'd help
02:48 < Barrett> slaps self
02:48 < Barrett> oh!
02:48 < Barrett> wait...
02:48 < Barrett> is the top one refreshed as well?
02:48 < Randomist> Yes.
02:49 < Barrett> hm.
02:49 < Barrett> you wouldn't happen to have firebug installed on Shiretoko, would you?
02:50 < Barrett> 'cause it should inherit the font (which your system appears to have, according to Midori) from Body
02:50 < Barrett> Tahoma
02:50 < Barrett> , san-serif
02:50 < Barrett> not even san-serif
02:51 < Barrett> Randomist: did the font change to a san-serif font just now?
02:51 < Randomist> It should be "sans-serif."
02:51 < Barrett> if you refresh
02:52 < Barrett> wow... CSS validator sucks
02:52 < Barrett> I've had that for 7 years and it's always worked
02:52 < Barrett> ok, now?
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02:53 <@efneTI92> [KermEEE] http://www.cemetech.net :: Leading The Way to the Future
02:53 < Randomist> Refresh.
02:54 < Barrett> hm... still huger...
02:54 < Barrett> but at least it took off the feet
02:54 < Randomist> Barrett:  Try "10px."
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02:57 < Barrett> that's so... weird...
02:58 < Barrett> the top links were set specifically to 15px... but somehow when I changed everything else, they also changed
02:59 < Randomist> Barrett:  I don't see that in your CSS.
02:59 < Barrett> k, well... a bunch of other stuff is screwed up, but did that fix anything?
02:59 < Randomist> At least not in the ".toplinks" class.
02:59 < Barrett> .toplinks a
03:00 < Randomist> Barrett:  Try putting it in ".toplinks."
03:00 < Randomist> * the font-size declaration
03:01 < Barrett> done
03:02 < Randomist> New screenshot.
03:02 < Randomist> That look right?
03:02 < Barrett> closer...
03:02 < Barrett> it's likely just a font issue
03:03 < Barrett> the height should be the same, but there is no guarentee for the width
03:03 < Barrett> well, that's close enough
03:04 < Barrett> also, Randomist... if you refresh, in the search box with the tabs, does the black line between the selected tab and the search box disappear?
03:06 < Randomist> Something did around that area, but I missed it before it refreshed.  I updated the screenshot, though.
03:06 < Barrett> yep
03:06 < Barrett> sweeeeet.
03:06 < Barrett> thanks
03:07 < Barrett> by any chance does firebug tell you which font an element is actually using?
03:08 < Randomist> Barrett:  Yes.  If you inspect the element, it will tell you on the right.
03:08 < Barrett> right, but I'm curious about yours...
03:09 < Barrett> since it appears that you don't have Tahoma
03:09  * Randomist checks.
03:09 < Randomist> Nope, I don't.
03:09 < Barrett> either that or it just completely disregarded the font-family when sans-serif was spelled incorrectly...
03:10 < Randomist> It's probably substituting with either Sans or one of the Liberation fonts.
03:10 < Barrett> "Sans" is a font?
03:10 < Randomist> Here, it is.
03:10 < Randomist> "Sans" and "Monospace."
03:10 < mokomull> In many Linux distros, it acts like a font, but it's an alias for the "appropriate" font
03:14 < Randomist> So, I am guessing that is really Bitstream Vera or Déjà Vu or something like that.
03:15 < Barrett> Randomist: how about now?
03:16 < Barrett> I would assume you have arial :)
03:16 < Randomist> Refresh.
03:17 < Barrett> Very much closer
03:18 < Barrett> can I make a window semi-transparent in windows 7?
03:18 < Barrett> natively...
03:18 < Randomist> Barrett:  Dexpot.
03:18 < Randomist> (Maybe.)
03:19 < Randomist> It worked on Vista, so it should work on Seven.
03:20 < Randomist> http://www.dexpot.de/index.php?lang=en
03:21 < Barrett> eh, I found something simpler :)
03:21 < Barrett> Gridy
03:21 < i_c-Y> the pidgin people have done it.
03:21 < Barrett> apple+f10 makes it like 50% transparent
03:21 < Randomist> i_c-Y:  What have they screwed up, now?
03:21 < TheStorm> done what i_c-Y?
03:22 < i_c-Y> no no not that way, Randomist 
03:22 < i_c-Y> they have transparent windows on windows
03:22 < Barrett> well... they screwed up GAIM
03:22 < i_c-Y> they renamed it.
03:22 < Barrett> yes, and screwed it up
03:22 < Barrett> at the same time, in fact
03:23 < Randomist> I thoght that extension for transparent windows has been out for some time now.
03:23 < i_c-Y> yes.
03:23 < i_c-Y> from the gaim days iirc.
03:23 < i_c-Y> ive used it for a long time.
03:25 < TheStorm> pidgin is teh hotness
03:27 < Randomist> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_R_JSiupzo
03:27 < TheStorm> though the new version of the facbookchat plugin fails big time.
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03:35 < Spengo> <Josh> I don't understand why churches and 'family groups' spend millions of dollars a year on abstinence-only instruction when a World of Warcraft account only costs fifteen dollars a month and has a much better record of ensuring virginity.
03:35 < Spengo> hahahaha
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03:35 <@efneTI92> [_Auron|G1] We called it Sin.
03:35 < incubus> omfg!
03:35 < incubus> A girl telling me about linux, I am masturbating to this
03:35 < incubus> (I'm not joking)
03:36 < Spengo> I dunno... linux girls tend to be... not so good
03:36 < incubus> Spengo, where have you been btw
03:36 < Merthsoft> wow that's sad
03:36 < Spengo> incubus, I lurk in here all the time what you mean where have I been
03:37 < incubus> do you seriously lurk?
03:37 < incubus> have you been reading conversations real time without saying any thing?
03:37 < Spengo> well
03:37 < Spengo> I idle
03:37 < TheStorm> Spengo, I'm not so sure about that quote, I know of a few WOW players that have gotten laid on a regular basis
03:38 < incubus> I'm so glad I quit wow
03:38 < Spengo> TheStorm, with good looking girls? 
03:38 < incubus> I'll never play another mmo
03:38  * Spengo looks at TheStorm suspiciously
03:38 < TheStorm> Spengo, Yeah
03:38 < incubus> lol
03:38 < Spengo> I don't habeeb you
03:38 < incubus> TheStorm, pics or it didn't happen
03:38 < TheStorm> but then again I think in both cases teh Girl played WOW also
03:39 < TheStorm> incubus, I would but then I'd get nailed for distributing cp
03:39 < TheStorm> and I wasn't there
03:39 < incubus> sometimes it's okay to do that
03:39 < TheStorm> lol
03:42 < Randomist> Krisk would do it.
03:43 < Randomist> So would Ox40.
03:43 < TheStorm> Kirsk doesn't live in the US either :P
03:43 < Merthsoft> ox40 would do his cousin
03:43 < Randomist> Haha.
03:43 < TheStorm> lol, I've meet Ox40 and that is one scary thought.
03:44 < TheStorm> though I haven't meet any of his cousins thankfully
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03:48 < TheStorm> Hey Randomist what is your Favorite Windows based Media player?
03:49 < Randomist> TheStorm:  MediaMonkey and Foobar2000.
03:49 < j-b-r> Media Player Classic
03:49 < TheStorm> I ask you since you've seem to have tried every single media player ever:P
03:49 < j-b-r> Or Media Player Classic Home Cinema
03:49 < j-b-r> That is the best
03:49 < Randomist> TheStorm:  For video, what j-b-r and VLC.
03:49 < j-b-r> Don't use VLC like everyone says
03:49 < j-b-r> Ok, actually, it might be fine for most people
03:50 < Randomist> * what j-b-r said
03:50 < j-b-r> But for me, VLC won't do the trick
03:50 < TheStorm> Foobar2000 it is, do you have your UI layout for it handy?
03:50 < j-b-r> I do
03:50 < Randomist> I do.
03:50 < Randomist> I have the file, anyway.
03:50 < Randomist> But not a screenshot.
03:51 < TheStorm> I don't feel like messing with my config and I figured I'd like yours since your have a large media collection
03:51 < TheStorm> I'll take it
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03:52 < TheStorm> columns ui I assume, and can you upload it somewhere?
03:52 < Randomist> Nope, regular UI.
03:52 < j-b-r> I also use regular UI
03:52 < TheStorm> Oh even better
03:52 < j-b-r> ALthough columns seems to be the most popular
03:53 < TheStorm> Yeah thats why I figured you guys used columns
03:53 < TheStorm> but I normally use the normal one also
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03:53 <@efneTI92> [_Aur|G1] We called it Sin.
03:53 < Randomist> TheStorm:  wintervenom.brandonw.net
03:53 < Randomist> Layout.fth
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03:54 < j-b-r> I'd like to see screenshots of how other people have theirs set up...
03:54 < j-b-r> I do mine a way that works for me
03:55 < j-b-r> But I think I also manage my media in a very different way from most people...
03:55 < TheStorm> yeah I lost my old one but It was actually very similar to most of the MPD clients :P
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03:57 < TheStorm> http://thestorm.taricorp.net/Uploads/foobar2000.jpg
03:58 < TheStorm> thats Randomist's layout
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04:01 < TheStorm> j-b-r, do you want to upload your layout somewhere so I can try it out?
04:01  * Randomist now has a "live-screenshot" key.
04:02 < Randomist> I should probably make it ask if I want to upload, though.  :P
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04:11 < j-b-r> Yay
04:11 < j-b-r> Netsplit
04:12 < j-b-r> Now why is it taking so long for them to come back?
04:14 < Randomist> Clearly, it's because the world is coming to an end.
04:16 < j-b-r> Well, awesome
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04:24 <@efneTI92> [Randomis1] http://wintervenom.mine.nu
04:25  * Randomis1 pings.
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04:29 < i_c-Y> oh noes, vnc client or enable rdp anyway
04:29 < TheStorm> meh, I'll stick with XP, its a leagal copy and my mom is used to it.
04:29 < Randomis1> O.o
04:29 < i_c-Y> all you need is a copy of the appropriate dll from another windows install
04:30 < Randomis1> Netsplits are weird.
04:30 < Randomis1> You forget that it's a bunch of servers connected to one another until they separate.
04:30 < TheStorm> i_c-Y, like I said its a leagal copy and I don't feel like teaching how to get around a different OS
04:31 < i_c-Y> legal.
04:31 < TheStorm> w/e
04:31 < Randomis1> What'd I miss?
04:32 < i_c-Y> me saying how much i love all of you.
04:32 < i_c-Y> just kidding.
04:32 < i_c-Y> not much - the only person active was  TheStorm 
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04:34 < TheStorm> and i_c-Y was saying how much dislikes me and that I'm an idiot for trying to install XP when I could be doing Vista or Win 7.
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04:42 < TheStorm> hmm this time I included the intel textmode drivers and not just the pnp ones, that should fix the issue.
04:44 < i_c-Y> just hook up a damn floppy drive and do it the way microsoft intended.
04:44 < i_c-Y> (God uses vista)
04:46 < Randomis1> No wonder why the Universe is so fucked up.  :P
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04:52 < TheStorm> i_c-Y, I tired that, and the machine has a floppy drive, but the isntaller utility has some issue anywya
04:52 < TheStorm> anyway*
04:52 < Randomis1> Someone got a .theme file for XP?
04:53 < TheStorm> i do why?
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04:54 < Randomis1> TheStorm:  I want to convert my Vista theme files to XP, and have to know what changes between theme.
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04:54 < Randomis1> * them
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04:56 < TheStorm> ok I'll upload it but its an old theme
04:58 < TheStorm> http://thestorm.taricorp.net/Uploads/BlueClassic.theme
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05:00 < i_c-Y> you theme'd your vista install?
05:00 < i_c-Y> i think vista looks great by default.
05:00 < i_c-Y> once you switch the titlebars and stuff to be grey not light blue. 
05:00 < Randomis1> I don't like it.
05:01 < Randomis1> Aero takes up a lot of screen real-estate.
05:01 < j-b-r> I don't mind it
05:02 < j-b-r> It's fine for a modern computer with modern specs
05:03 < Randomis1> I wonder if there's a tool that will let you adjust Windows' GUI widget sizes.
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05:03 < TheStorm> j-b-r, he means the windo decorations are to large not that they don't look good
05:03 < j-b-r> yeah, I know what he meant
05:04 < j-b-r> I'm just saying that with a decent desktop resolution, it's no problem
05:04 < Randomis1> I like micro GUIs.
05:04 < j-b-r> I mean, on a little tiny screen like 800x600 or something, it would be insane, but not even netbooks have screens like that
05:05 < j-b-r> Although, sure I am sure there are people who will always prefer evilwm to a real gui or something
05:05 < Randomis1> Even if I had one of those forty-two-inch monitors, I would still use my micro GUI.
05:09 < Randomis1> TheStorm:  Thanks.  That worked.  :P
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05:10 < TheStorm> np
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05:19 < TD-Linux> the question is not so much of resolution
05:19 < TD-Linux> but of DPI
05:20 < TD-Linux> I do not use so-called "micro GUIs" because my DPI is so high that they are very hard to see
05:20 < TD-Linux> many mobile devices have very high DPI screens that are of low resolution (e.g. iphone)
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05:30 <@efneTI92> [DSP_Lord] I'm not a ninja, no idea what you're talking about.
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05:55 < Randomist> Now Windows theming is out of the way.  http://wintervenom.brandonw.net/Screenshot.png
05:58 < millinao> _Auron|G1,  would you have a problem with me submitting stroids on reddit?
05:59 < _Auron|G1> huh?
05:59 < millinao> it's like digg, a social news site
06:00 < _Auron|G1> *shrug* why not?
06:00 < millinao> dunno, maybe you would have some issue with giving it more internet exposure
06:02 < Randomist> Reddit, Digg, 4chan, YouTube, MySpace, Slashdot, and you're covered.
06:03 < Randomist> Make it controvertial somehow.  That always works to get people downloading.
06:03 < mokomull> Violate the GPL; that'll get people talking.
06:04 < millinao> haha
06:04 < millinao> nerd rage
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06:04 < _Auron|G1> lol
06:05 < Randomist> "Astroids Clone Violates GPL - Slashdot."  "FFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-"
06:05 < _Auron|G1> haha
06:10 < _Auron|G1> well I'm going to sleep now
06:10 < _Auron|G1> night
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06:18  * Randomist has still not seen anything outside in his window yet.
06:18 < Randomist> I don't think I'm going to make it to 0500.
06:20 < mokomull> Randomist: ?
06:20 < mokomull> What're you expecting to find outside your window?
06:21 < Randomist> Meteors.
06:22 < mokomull> ah
06:22 < incubus> All your base are belong to us.
06:22 <@E-J> i'm expecting to see systems work at any time soon in my work monitor
06:25 < TheStorm> heh, I never noticed my mom's comp has hardware Raid :)
06:25 < TheStorm> either Raid 0 or Raid 1
06:27 <@E-J> ... i'm expecting too much
06:27 <@E-J> TheStorm: scary
06:28 < Randomist> Insert music from "Psycho" (1960) here.
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07:02 < tr1p1ea> what the hell?!
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07:02 <@efneTI92> [Tari] Remember, remember the 5th of November
07:14 < tr1p1ea> why is the perspective way off?
07:18 < nicolas> morning
07:24 <+glk>  few meteors so far
07:32 < tr1p1ea> oh cool meteor shower
07:32 < tr1p1ea> and :S it was scaling that was causing the touble
07:33 < tr1p1ea> now i have to use 16x8 multiplication :\
07:40 <+glk> I have information on the TI-89. Ask if interested
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07:43 < tr1p1ea> haha
07:45 < millinao> i am in love with plants vs zombies
07:45 < millinao> game of the century
07:50 < TheStorm> millinao, yeah I was adicted to it fro a while also
07:50 < TheStorm> for*
07:55 < TheStorm> WTF, XP installs fine but won't boot, GAH
07:55 < TheStorm> this was not supposed to take this much work.
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09:09 < millinao> king of the hill is great
09:17 < tr1p1ea> i always found it pretty boring
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10:22 < tr1p1ea> :S
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11:59 < zomorth> Does anybody know how I can get the value of the system clock in a tigcc program?
12:07 < zomorth> this is on a TI-89
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12:08 <@efneTI92> [_Auron_] We called it Sin.
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12:55 <@efneTI92> [TheStorm] Yes rivereye, it is time to go fishing.
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12:58 < kirsk> what the
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13:48 <@efneTI92> [i_c-Y] It's like I'm the last sane person on Earth.
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14:52 < jr> what is this i don't even
14:56 < asmand> nicolas: http://gazzettino.it/articolo.php?id=69170&sez=LEALTRE
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15:22 < nicolas> asmand: damnit, where were those partie when *I* was a teen :p
15:25 <+kirsk> what does it say
15:25 < nicolas> basically, this chick turned 18... and gave blowjobs to all the guys at the party
15:26 <+kirsk> fun
15:26 <+kirsk> I would've opted to be given cake instead
15:26 < nicolas> well not all the guys... only 18 guys, after which she started feeling ill, she was taken to the hospital and have her stomach pumped (i'm guessing from the excess alcohol, rather than jizz)
15:26 <+kirsk> ohlol
15:30 < nicolas> but think about it ... you go a to a b-day party, you don't bring a present, and you get a bj .. sounds like a good time to me :D
15:32 < jr> sounds like a good way to get an STD
15:32 < nicolas> just make sure you're the first one in line 
15:33 <+kirsk> then too
15:34 < nicolas> the risk in that case wouldn't be any higher than getting a blowjob any other time
15:35 < jr> yeah true
15:36 < jr> if you get something from a bj, you're pretty unlucky
15:36 <@E-J> when girl is epileptic ...
15:37 <+kirsk> the risk is not the same
15:37 <+kirsk> im gonna have to guess tha statistically a girl who gives blowjobs to 18 guys on her birthday probably has a higher chance of carrying disease than average girls do
15:38 <+kirsk> just a guess
15:39 < nicolas> maybe, though I also assume the 18 year old thing + lots and lots of alcohol may have triggered that
15:39 < nicolas> if not some funny stuff slipped in her drink :P
15:40 < nicolas> you're always welcome to slip on a condom though
15:40 <+kirsk> lots and lots of alcohol dont make you do things you really dont want to
15:41 <+kirsk> thats just a whore's excuse
15:41 < nicolas> oh, for sure, maybe hse did want to have an orgy, she just never did
15:41 <+kirsk> ah yes
15:41 < nicolas> alcohol makes you do things you want to do but never had teh courage to
15:41 <+kirsk> i wouldnt say courage
15:43 <@E-J> nicolas: and mostly stupid things, like burn all your cloths or ...
15:43 <@E-J> like one guy did at nummirock midsummer rock festival
15:43 < nicolas> ok... alcohol makes you do things you always wanted to do but always had teh social restraint to not do
15:45 <+kirsk> or
15:45 <+kirsk> people like that are just retarded and do retarded things with their inhibitions lowered
15:46 < nicolas> that too
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15:46 <@efneTI92> [Randomist] http://wintervenom.mine.nu
15:47 <@E-J> although alcohol isn't excuse when you do something illegal
15:47 <@E-J> it might even rise the penalty
15:48 < jr> yeah
15:48 < jr> alcohol is the DEVIL
15:48 < Randomist> Just ask Ports.
15:49 < jr> i've heard about most of his alcohol-fueled adventures
15:52 <@_Auron_> OMFG making a sandwich out of toasted homemade bread = *win*
15:52 < Randomist> </random>
15:52 <@_Auron_> extra crunchy crust but soft inner bread
15:58 < i_c-Y> >.>
16:03 <@E-J> i now that in internet (tm) is pictures of my friend from his alcohol-fueled adventures
16:06 <+kirsk> i think pot tends to give much better adventures
16:07 <@E-J> http://picasaweb.google.fi/hvaljakka/Hanna_nummirock09?authkey=Gv1sRgCLHv0emO15aM-gE#5350085361814043058
16:07 <@E-J> one example
16:09 < jr> that's terrible.
16:09 < jr> that should be nsfw heh
16:12 <@E-J> not suitable for anyone more like
16:13 <@E-J> actually i know both guys in that picture
16:13 <@E-J> that one who has more terrible outfit is very good chess player
16:15 < TD-Linux> so, I got C compiler working for TI-83+
16:15 < TD-Linux> what's a small recognizable program I can port?
16:16 <@E-J> hello world?
16:17 <@_Auron_> lol
16:19 <@E-J> slicks 'n' slide maybe doesn't have sources anywhere
16:20 <@E-J> http://www.digitalfootmark.com/?pr=slix
16:23 < incubus> w00t E-J links
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16:30 <@efneTI92> [_Aur|G1] We called it Sin.
16:31 < TheStorm> TD-Linux, hello world?
16:31 < TheStorm> you could prot freedos :P
16:31 < TheStorm> port*
16:34 < BrandonW> That's probably about all you'd be able to fit.
16:34 < BrandonW> C is useless as you shall soon see!
16:34 < Randomist> How you gonna hate on C, bro'?
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16:38 < BrandonW> I don't, it's just impractical on the z80.
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17:05 < TD-Linux> BrandonW, it implemented my for loop pretty efficiently...
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17:07 < BrandonW> Oh, well, in that case, it's perfect for Tetris.
17:07 < BrandonW> Or CellSheet.
17:07 < BrandonW> Or usb8x.
17:08 < BrandonW> Or whatever you like.
17:08 < V200> _Auron_: do you have a website for Stroids?
17:08 < V200> _Auron|G1: 
17:09 <@_Auron_> http://darkauron.dyshost.com/Android/Stroids but it's not much of a site
17:09 < V200> sweet.  I added an Android section to calcg.org (not browsable yet)
17:09 <@_Auron_> cool
17:10 < V200> Want to have the first program on it?
17:10 <@_Auron_> heh, sure. I'm about to upload my demo copies to the site right now
17:12 <@_Auron_> http://darkauron.dyshost.com/Android/Stroids/Files
17:12 <@E-J> _Auron_: have you ever played stardust or super stardust?
17:12 < Tari> sigh
17:12 < V200> no
17:12 <@_Auron_> E-J: for PSP, yeah
17:12 < Tari> amazon cancelled my order since the seller was out of stock :(
17:13 < V200> _Auron_: If you want, I can add it to CG... but it might be better if you do it so you can make it the way you want it :)
17:13  * _Auron_ shrugs
17:13 < V200> you don't have to upload a file (but screenshots would be nice)
17:14 <@_Auron_> screenshots: http://darkauron.dyshost.com/Android/Stroids/
17:14 <@E-J> _Auron_: did you know that it's finnish made game?-)
17:14 <@_Auron_> only once I have
17:14 <@_Auron_> E-J: :X no
17:14 <@_Auron_> V200: I'm about to bounce out of town though
17:14 <@_Auron_> only ones I have*
17:14 < V200> k, I'll do it... do you have a description of the game somewhere that I can copy?
17:14 < V200> also, do you want me to zip up an apk file or just link to yours?
17:15 <@_Auron_> http://www.cyrket.com/package/com.Demo.Stroids
17:15 <@_Auron_> V200: Either is fine; probably direct link would be better.
17:15 <@_Auron_> Although you may want to include instructions on how to install apk files to the phone on that section of the site
17:15 <@E-J> orginal stardust was made for amiga 500
17:15 < V200> I don't even know how :)
17:16 <@_Auron_> V200: Either download the SDK and use adb in the command line, "adb install file.apk".. or put it on the sd card and use a program like ASTRO File Manager to install it
17:16 <@_Auron_> ASTRO File Manager being a program on the android market
17:17 < V200> these apks are just different versions, right? they aren't all parts of the single demo?
17:19 <@E-J> _Auron_: http://www.housemarque.com/jobs.php
17:19 <@_Auron_> V200: Different versions, yes.
17:20 <@_Auron_> E-J: huh?
17:20 <@_Auron_> I don't want to move to finland :P
17:21 < V200> _Auron_: Do you want me to put your real name as the author or do you have an alias you want me to use?
17:21 <@_Auron_> real name
17:21 < V200> F... I deactivated facebook... what is it again? :)
17:22 <@_Auron_> Michael Angel :P
17:23 <@E-J> _Auron_: well finland has lively gay community (or so i have told) etc and less americans and ...
17:23 <@_Auron_> haha
17:23 < V200> wow... so... I zipped the apk, and when I unzip it, it also turns the apk into a folder
17:24 < V200> I have the solution, though :)
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17:26 <@E-J> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oo6H_fB0xsI
17:27 < V200> _Auron_: Senilym? is that yours?
17:27 <@_Auron_> yes
17:35 < V200> Anyone here done any iPhone development?
17:36 < ryantwork> Does laughing at people who have them count as development?
17:36 < V200> Yes.
17:36 < Tari> nomnomnom, apple sauce
17:36 < ryantwork> Oh, then yes.
17:36 < V200> nice
17:36 < ryantwork> (I'm mostly kidding, I have nothing against iPhone users)
17:36 < V200> I do
17:37 < V200> oh man.. a few weeks ago I went to a BYU webmasters meeting something or other... and in a room of about 20 people, I saw 10 iPhones
17:37 < V200> and 10 mac laptops, and only 1 PC laptop
17:38 < Tari> blech
17:38 < V200> it made me sick
17:38 < ryantwork> Feh, Macs for web design...
17:38 < ryantwork> Real men use notepad!
17:38 < V200> I've been doing web design in a textarea box for the last few days...
17:39 <@_Auron_> ryantwork: haha, I use notepad. though I suck at web design
17:40 <@_Auron_> I don't know anything other than really basic html
17:40 <@_Auron_> okay I need to finish packing
17:40 < Tari> notepad++ ftw
17:40 <@Andy_J> V200: why does it make you sick? the hardware is quite good
17:40 < V200> I designed 90% of CalcG.org in a textarea box, in fact
17:40 <@Andy_J> if you really hate os x that much put windows on them
17:40 -!- mode/#tcpa [-o Andy_J] by Andy_J
17:40 < Andy_J> and I have done a little bit of iphone dev work
17:40 < V200> and 100% of the old CalcGames.org in wordpad (can't use wordpad anymore... now it does rich text by default :(
17:40 <@_Auron_> Andy_J: The hardware that makes my computer is quite good too; I built it myself and spent 1/3 the cost that an equivalent mac costs. :P
17:41 < Andy_J> _Auron_: let's see you do that with a laptop now :P
17:41 < V200> Andy_J: released anything?
17:41 < Andy_J> V200: no
17:41 < Andy_J> not yet at least
17:42 < V200> I added an iPhone section to calcg.org (in addition to android)... obviously not (usually) for downloading... since the iPhone store and android market took that upon themselves, but for screenshots and descriptions and stuff
17:42 < Andy_J> I wouldn't be making a game anyway, not my area =/
17:42 < V200> eh, doesn't have to be a game
17:43 < ryantwork> _Auron_, I too use notepad. Well, Notepad++ because of the ever-so-handy syntax highlighting. Real men!
17:43 < Andy_J> real men cat > index.html
17:44 < ryantwork> lol, I'm not quite that manly.
17:44 < V200> nah, real men echo > index.html
17:44 < V200> what are you catting, anyway?
17:44 < Andy_J> catting stdin
17:44 < V200> ah, got it
17:45 < V200> I've never used it like that
17:45 < Andy_J> same thing as copy con
17:48 < V200> Andy_J: what do you think of the top 200 pixels of http://calcg.org/?tmplt=16  ?
17:48 < V200> (not finished, but the general idea of it)
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18:17 < jr> kirsk: did you ever email that pdf
18:17 <+kirsk> i emailed about it
18:17 <+kirsk> the pdf is 60mb so that wouldnt work
18:17 <+kirsk> need dcc or ftp or i can link to it on my webserver
18:18 < jr> lulz
18:18 <+kirsk> did you not see the email?
18:18 < jr> doesnt matter, webserver is easiest
18:18 < jr> no i never saw it
18:19 <+kirsk> also read this http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=998224
18:19 < jr> k
18:20 <+kirsk> btw i just calculated that chicken vs whey protein is equally expensive
18:21 <+kirsk> and they would both entail 10 servings of either a day
18:22 <+kirsk> 5/5 would also be a good idea since whey protein is very nice and milk and meat lack whey proteins
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18:25 < Ruddiger> Can someone tell me how I can make a tigcc project with multiple source files?
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18:32 < BrandonW> It makes me sad inside to see a question like that.
18:32 < Tari> I'd think it's obvious
18:34 < BrandonW> Everything's obvious to us.
18:34 < Merthsoft> because we're sooper smart?
18:36 <+kirsk> i wouldnt know
18:43 <@E-J> http://www.epanorama.net/blog/2009/08/12/rear-projection-urinal/
18:46 < i_c-Y> it makes me sad too, BrandonW 
18:47 < i_c-Y> brilliant, E-J 
18:55 < TD-Linux> hmm I need a TI emulator now
18:55 < TD-Linux> or even better, the real thing
18:55 < i_c-Y> then get a calculator, loser
18:57 < jr> ebay that shit
19:03 < TD-Linux> let's hope tilp works now
19:04 < TD-Linux> hah my first program written in C works
19:08 < TD-Linux> whoa my old z80 code is crazy optimized
19:08 < chronomex> nice
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19:11 < i_c-Y> what compiler are you using?
19:19 < mokomull> man I should learn to own at using valgrind
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19:27 <@efneTI92> [LordMathi] I'm not a ninja, no idea what you're talking about.
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19:54 <+kirsk> Male tarantula wasps also lead an intriguing life. They engage in a behavior called "hill-topping," where they perch on taller vegetation or high points. They are strongly territorial at these sites because of the good view of the surroundings and in particular, of newly emerged virgin females, which may be receptive to mating. Once again we see that males of another species act quite like males of our own species; think of males posted up at a bar keep
19:54 <+kirsk> lawl
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20:23 < Merthsoft> l
20:24 < Merthsoft> chronomex: missed one
20:25 < chronomex> l
20:25 < chronomex> goddamnit
20:25 < chronomex> why do you do that?
20:25 < Merthsoft> to piss you off
20:25 < chronomex> arrgh
20:25 < BrandonW> It's always in #tiasm, too.
20:25 < Merthsoft> did it work?
20:25 < chronomex> AGOUWHFRT
20:26 < chronomex> YES IT WORKD
20:26 < chronomex> I WANT TO KEEEL YOU
20:26 < Randomist> Rage.
20:37 < BrandonW> Infected?! Infected with WHAT?!
20:37 < BrandonW> (whispers) Rage.
20:38 < BrandonW> It's good none of you actually know me in real life, because I'm sure I'd drive you insane with movie references and impersonations.
20:38 < BrandonW> I'm going to die alone. :(
20:38 < Merthsoft> oh no :(
20:38 < Merthsoft> we all are.
20:41 < chronomex> BrandonW: someday I will meet you offline
20:41 < chronomex> it will be awesome
20:42 <+Netham45> !qadd <BrandonW> I'm going to die alone. :(
20:42 <@efneTI86> Quote 1630 added
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20:46 < i_c-Y> the simple solution is to find a chick, tie her up in your basement or atic, and tell her that she has to love you or you'll cut her food ration in half
20:47 < Tari> just for that comment, (about none of us knowing you) I'm going to show up on your doorstep one day
20:48 < Randomist> Tari:  What, you're into that?
20:53 < i_c-Y> BrandonW: that quote sounds very familiar - what movie?
21:02 <+Netham45> http://blog.seattlepi.com/microsoft/archives/176223.asp
21:02 <+Netham45> lol.
21:18 < BrandonW> i_c-Y: the beginning of 28 Days Later.
21:18 < i_c-Y> i knew it!
21:20 < i_c-Y> eccleston is in that film.
21:29 < BrandonW> Yes.
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22:01  * Randomist waits for baked fish to be done.
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22:01 <@efneTI92> [JonimusP] Yes rivereye, it is time to go fishing.
22:01  * Randomist becomes impatiant and goes off to play in LMMS while he waits.
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22:14 < chronomex> <i_c-Y> the simple solution is to find a chick, tie her up in your basement or atic,      <-- double points if she's the kind who likes that sort of thing
22:15 < i_c-Y> if you've gotten that far, i dont think you need to worry about points - you've already won the game
22:16 < chronomex> yeah, I suppose so
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22:34 <@efneTI92> [Jonimus] Yes rivereye, it is time to go fishing.
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22:47 <@efneTI92> [Randomis1] http://wintervenom.mine.nu
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22:58 <@efneTI92> [Randomist] http://wintervenom.mine.nu
22:58  * Randomist stabs X.
23:01  * i_c-Y stabs Randomist 
23:01  * Netham45 stabs i_c-Y
23:01 < i_c-Y> shut the hell up, Netham45 
23:01 < i_c-Y> go back to omnimaga.
23:01 <+Netham45> Go fuck yourself, i_c-Y
23:01 < i_c-Y> !k Netham45 language
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23:02 < i_c-Y> this district 9 movie looks like independence day
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23:05 <@efneTI92> [Randomis1] http://wintervenom.mine.nu
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23:09  * Randomis1 has found a very strange X bug.
23:10 < Ox41> Alright. I knwo someone here once gave me a website that had a bunch of cool electronic parts. Basically I need a 300 Degree (F) heating element for DC...
23:10 < Ox41> What site was that?
23:10 < Randomis1> Oh, snap, it's an Ox41!
23:10 < Ox41> A wild Ox41 appears.
23:11 < Randomis1> Ox41:  Maybe it's in the logs.
23:11 < i_c-Y> +_+
23:12 < Ox41> Randomis1: lol I have no idea where to look ...
23:12 < Ox41> I was making... ooh I needed UV LEDs
23:12 < Randomis1> Ox41:  http://tcpa.calcg.org
23:12 < Barrett> Ox41: cat * | grep Ox40... it's not like you talk that much
23:12 < Ox41> <_<
23:12 < Ox41> lol yeah, right Barrett. That'll work :)\
23:13 < Ox41> I dont have linux either....
23:13 < Barrett> or | grep Ox40 | grep parts
23:13 < Randomis1> I use OTR mode all the time, so I have no logs.
23:14 < Ox41> does anyone know an electronic parts catalog online
23:14 < Randomis1> Google does.
23:14 < Ox41> im thinking of adapting a soldering iron... one of those cordless ones...
23:14 < Ox41> but i dont know how accurately I can control the temperature...
23:15 < Barrett> yeah, google shopping would be useful
23:15 < Ox41> im working on it
23:15 < i_c-Y> cordless soldering irons dont have good temp control plus arent good for electronics
23:15 < Barrett> speaking of google shopping... why did they get rid of the name 'froogle'?
23:15 < i_c-Y> 300 F is a toaster oven's area.
23:16 < Randomis1> Anyone using Linux with a recent version of the X suite?
23:16 < Ox41> 320-360 is the range I need...
23:16 < i_c-Y> i dont think anyone makes a soldeirng iron with good temp control there.
23:16 < Ox41> and im wondering if I can use some sort of infrared heating element...
23:16 < i_c-Y> Ox41: can you be more specific about what you want to use it for?
23:16 < Ox41> not really ;)
23:16 < Ox41> It needs to be small tho...
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23:17 < Ox41> like, small enough to fit in a project box about the size of a pack of cigs.
23:20 < Ox41> 850/950 degrees in 15 seconds, its perfect. But WAY too hot. http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3086615
23:21 < Randomist> This is a [test[.
23:21 < Randomist> So is [this].
23:21  * Randomist scratches his head.
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23:33 <@efneTI92> [_Auron|G1] We called it Sin.
23:35 < Randomist> http://208.106.191.145/_media/imgs/articles2/a96781_dvdrewinder.jpg
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23:45 < Barrett> who makes good keyboards?
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23:48 <+mtgrss111> You guys, I fucking hate Shadow Lugia.
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23:48 <+mtgrss111> I leave you now with that very relevant bit of info.
23:48 < Ox41> hmm
23:48 < Ox41> time to go
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23:48 < i_c-Y> Barrett: what do you like?
23:49 < i_c-Y> if you like clicky keyboards there is a company called Unicomp which makes new IBM Model M type keyboards
23:49 < i_c-Y> for example.
23:49 < i_c-Y> if you like thinkpad keyboards, lenovo makes a keyboard identical to it
23:50 < Barrett> I don't like noise, but I do like at least being able to feel when it "clicks"
23:50 < Barrett> I really like my microsoft keyboard, but it's getting old
23:50 < i_c-Y> what model is it?
23:50 < Merthsoft> so get another microsoft keyboard
23:50 < Barrett> let me see if I can find it on newegg
23:50 < i_c-Y> you might be able to get another one of it
23:50 < Randomist> I need a keyboard that is good for typing for exorbiant periods of time.
23:50 < Barrett> well, I'm sure there are features that I could enjoy with another one... I'd at least like to look around
23:51 < i_c-Y> there arent too many with good tactile feedback
23:51 < i_c-Y> http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&safe=off&client=opera&rls=en&hs=7J3&q=trackpoint+usb+keyboard&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=12768352271380286305&ei=KVWDStr4EcWgmAer3YWFAw&sa=X&oi=product_catalog_result&ct=result&resnum=1#ps-sellers is nice
23:51 < i_c-Y> i like the feel on my thinkpad keyboard
23:52 < Barrett> http://www.dadsattic.biz/servlet/the-5211/Microsoft-Digital-Media-Pro/Detail
23:53 < Barrett> well, I like the soft click
23:53 < Barrett> soft but firm
23:53 < Barrett> that's what I have
23:54 < Barrett> I really like my MX revolution (and before I got it I didn't know what I was missing, so I'm wondering if I'm in a similar situation with my keyboard)
23:54 < Barrett> so I'm looking at logitech's keyboards
23:54 < i_c-Y> all you get now are soft keyboards like the G11/G15 too
23:54 < i_c-Y> i find the dell standard ones pretty nice though
23:57  * Randomist stabs "F," "X," and the square brackets for being so far away.
23:58 < Merthsoft> [FX]
23:58 < Merthsoft> yay i iwn
23:58 < Randomist> I have to be carful typing things in square bracket.
23:59 < Randomist> There is some crazy bug in either Screen/Irssi or X -- I can't pinpoint it yet -- that make the X server freeze and I have to SysRq-release out of it.
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