--- Log opened Mon Aug 10 00:00:18 2009
00:01 <+krisk> ok i need a food high in protein and carbs but low on fat
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00:06 <+krisk> hmm yoghurt
00:06 <+krisk> low fat yoghurt anyway
00:08 <+krisk> hmm or beluga whale meat
00:08 <+krisk> or seal
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00:13  * Randomist cringes.
00:13 < jr> protein powder?
00:14 <+krisk> thats more for backup
00:15 < jr> hmm
00:15 < jr> well it'd give you pretty good control of what is going into your body
00:16 < jr> not that you couldnt do that with regular food, but you know what i mean
00:16 < jr> theres a certain amount of nutrients in each scoop
00:16 <+krisk> well yeah but sclices of chicken and such are equally handy
00:17 <+krisk> but you dont really want to eat entire packs of sliced chicken meat
00:18 < jr> true
00:18 < jr> big storms here all day so far
00:18 < jr> severe thunderstorm watch until 1am now too
00:22 <+glk> I have information on the TI-89.  Ask if interested
00:22 <+krisk> is it an electronic device?
00:22 <+glk> A science calculator
00:23 <@_Auron_> I want storms!
00:23 < jr> is it related to a TIE fighter in any way
00:23 <+Netham45> Take ours, _Auron_. I'm tired of lightning and thunder at 5 AM.
00:23 < mokomull> lighting and thunder don't wake me up
00:23 < jr> we've already had two big ones today with 70mph winds
00:24 < jr> didnt see any hail though
00:24 <@_Auron_> mokomull: me either
00:25 <+glk> The TI-89T calculator is a good science calculator
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00:25 <@efneTI92> [Storm\_] Yes rivereye, it is time to go fishing.
00:25 <@_Auron_> A STORM CAME
00:25  * _Auron_ runs
00:25 < Storm\_> woot my new laptop has been shipped :D
00:26 < Storm\_> _Auron_, coincidentally its raining pretty hard out side right now :P
00:26 <@_Auron_> ......
00:26 <@Nikky> What kind of laptop?
00:26 <@_Auron_> I fucking want rain. >:(
00:26 <@Nikky> www.movetoseattle.org
00:27 < BrandonW> "Tell me something, Jimmy, do you even know how to kill me?" "I'm going to cut your god damned head off, see if that works."
00:27 < BrandonW> I'm watching X-Men Origins: Wolverine.
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00:36 < Merthsoft> BrandonW: good?
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00:36 < BrandonW> Fairly good so far.
00:37 < Merthsoft> i watchef a haunting in ct last week
00:37 < Merthsoft> pretty dumb
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00:39 <@efneTI92> [_Auron|G1] We called it Sin.
00:47 < BrandonW> Yeah, it was dumb.
00:56 < Randomist> Woo.  Windows XP in virtul machine starts up in eight seconds.
00:57 < BrandonW> It naturally had some stupid moments in it for continuity's sake, but I enjoyed that. (Wolverine)
00:57 < Randomist> (And that is from boot to I-can-use-the-desktop.)
01:03 <+krisk> goddamn eating 5000kc/day with low fat is crazy
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01:12 < Randomist> O.,
01:12 < Randomist> * O.o
01:12 < BrandonW> This might be a stupid question, but does the iPhone work on T-Mobile?
01:13 < Randomist> http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1496095/t-mobile-offers-iphone-counter
01:13 <+Netham45> BrandonW, I believe it does if you unlock it, but I can't say for sure.
01:13 < BrandonW> So is it possible to take a SIM card and use both the iPhone and G1 on T-Mobile interchangeably?
01:14 < Randomist> Google says, "Yes."
01:14 < BrandonW> That would be pretty much awesome.
01:14 < BrandonW> Both iPhone and Android development on a single plan.
01:14 < BrandonW> A single cheap plan.
01:15 < Randomist> Some guy keeps driving circles around the complex.
01:15 < Randomist> I've lost count of how many times he's passed by.
01:17 < Barrett> BrandonW: "development".... why couldn't you just get an ipod touch?
01:17 < BrandonW> I do have an iPod Touch, but I get really frustrated with its limitations (meaning what the iPhone has that it doesn't).
01:17 < BrandonW> I've wanted an iPhone for quite a while, but I don't want to pay anything.
01:18 < Randomist> Hundred-doller development fee.  >.>
01:18 < BrandonW> I'm fine with one-time fees.
01:19 < BrandonW> Just like buying the iPhone itself.
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01:21 < mtgrss111> guys, you know something wierd? The GBA pokemon games, Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald, were coded with data on Team Rocket like sprites and battle music, but they made not a single appearance in the game.
01:22 < mtgrss111> sounds like wasted potential :/
01:24 <+Netham45> Anyone here familiar with Windows Mobile? I have an app that refuses to use more than the middle 1/3 of the screen.
01:24 < mtgrss111> Not enough, sorry :/
01:25 < Randomist> FreeNode/#WM?
01:25 <+Netham45> The windows mobile channels I can find on freenode are pretty much dead.
01:26 <+Netham45> noones spoken in the ones I can find in the ~4 hours I've been there.
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01:37 <@efneTI92> [Randomist] The pycho has entered the channel.  Sound the alarms.
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01:38 < PollTroll> anyone have a WC3 frozen throne key they want to let me borrow? I lost mine and I'm not gonna play on b-net... just use it to download it from blizzard
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01:39 < Randomist> lolcraft.
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01:44 < Randomist> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b32_1249797076 - Nice.
01:48 < incubus> Randomist, holy shit
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02:00 <@efneTI92> [KermEEE] http://www.cemetech.net :: Leading The Way to the Future
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02:23 < Tribal> Has anybody ever had problems with Ubuntu randomly freezing?
02:23 <+Netham45> I did last time I used it.
02:24 <+Netham45> it was a driver conflict with my wifi card
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02:28 < Tribal> ah
02:30 < JoeYoung_> I love everyone in the channel <3
02:32 < BrandonW> I really hope T-Mobile coverage doesn't absolutely suck here.
02:33 < jr> its useless here :(
02:34 < BrandonW> I'm not in a big city, so I'm kinda thinking it will.
02:35 < BrandonW> I guess I'll try AT&T next.
02:35 < BrandonW> Those are my only options really.
02:35 < jr> i'm in a city of about 60,000...and it's iowa
02:35 < jr> at&t has EDGE available but no 3G here...not yet anyway
02:36 < PollTroll> there are 60,000 people in iowa?
02:37 < jr> i guess
02:38 < JoeYoung_> WOO someone archived my program :)
02:38 < PollTroll> what's wrong with this?: - Density 53.5/sq mi/sq mi  (53.5/sq mi/km²) 
02:38 < PollTroll> that's what wikipedia says about iowa
02:38 < JoeYoung_> Nikky or tev, I wonder.
02:40 < BrandonW> What program?
02:43 < BrandonW> Oh, I see it.
02:48 < jr> square miles per square kilometer? what?
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02:54 < PollTroll> jr: I think the second / means "aka"
02:54 < PollTroll> which is of course retarded
02:55 < PollTroll> what they meant was [converstion]/sq km/km^2
02:55 < jr> heh
02:56 < jr> i see lightning
02:56 < jr> http://www.weather.com/weather/map/interactive/52002?from=36hr_svrWatch_golf&zoom=7&interactiveMapLayer=radar&animation=true
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03:04 <@efneTI92> [Randomist] The pycho has entered the channel.  Sound the alarms.
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03:13 < jr> it always bothers me that it says "pycho"
03:14 < BrandonW> Danny Glover's lisp in "Shooter" is driving me insane.
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03:18 < jr> saw it was on TNT but decided not to watch since i've seen it on Showtime about 10 times
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03:26 < Merthsoft> BrandonW: What're you doing with my calc and bluetooth dongle these days?
03:26 < BrandonW> Nothing so far.
03:26 < BrandonW> Been busy.
03:26 < BrandonW> And now trying to destress.
03:26 < BrandonW> Before the next horrible day full of that awful thing known as work.
03:26 < Merthsoft> i build robots for work
03:27 < BrandonW> Female robots?
03:27 < millinao> sex bots
03:27 < Merthsoft> well
03:27 < Merthsoft> the first ones name is coco
03:27 < BrandonW> Is she hot?
03:28 < Merthsoft> http://youtube.com/user/merthsoft you tell me
03:29 < millinao> thats hot
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03:34 <@efneTI92> [KermEEE] http://www.cemetech.net :: Leading The Way to the Future
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03:41 < JoeYoung_> Chinese Teen Beaten to Death at Internet Addiction Camp
03:41 < JoeYoung_> oh shit
03:42 < Andy_J> welcome to a week ago?
03:42 <+Netham45> o.O
03:42 < JoeYoung_> Why thank you. It was great to be there.
03:42 <+Netham45> http://www.dbtechno.com/health/2009/08/06/chinese-teen-beaten-to-death-at-internet-addiction-camp/
03:42 <+Netham45> last line on that
03:42 < JoeYoung_> ' As the Global Times reports, Deng was reportedly beaten severely by three teachers at the camp after being scolded for "running too slowly." He was declared dead Monday morning after arriving at a nearby hospital. The incident has sparked considerable outrage, particularly given that the camp's mission statement promises that the treatment "does not include torture or other methods that might damage a child's health." '
03:42 <+Netham45> "Well at least we can say for sure that he is indeed over his addiction to the web."
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03:42 < JoeYoung_> wow
03:43 < Barrett> man
03:43 < Barrett> the newly engaged couple has been in the kitchen/living room all freaking day
03:44 < JoeYoung_> I think it's stupid those camps even exist.
03:44 < JoeYoung_> We all know fucking why the Chinese government is trying to keep the youth off the internet.
03:45 < BrandonW> I don't.
03:45 < JoeYoung_> Interfere with the brainwashing, duh.
03:45 < JoeYoung_> The kids know this, too.
03:45 < BrandonW> Conspiracy theorist.
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03:46 < JoeYoung_> Eventually, a future generation, fuel by the internet in their greener years, will rise up and change everything.
03:46 < JoeYoung_> *fueled.
03:46 < BrandonW> Liberal.
03:47 < JoeYoung_> Anti-Communist
03:47 < BrandonW> *BAM* SOVIET NUCLEAR HOLOCAUST
03:47 < JoeYoung_> It's just convenient that there is something Americans are encouraged to hate.
03:48 < JoeYoung_> So hell, I'll be first in line on the bandwagon is possible.
03:48 < JoeYoung_> grr
03:48 < JoeYoung_> *if possible
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04:00 < millinao> holy fuck on mythbusters adam just inhaled sulfur hexafloride and sounded demonic
04:01 < millinao> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ip4Sa5ZtBQ
04:01 < Tari> old stuff is old
04:01 < Tari> but yeah, that's great
04:03 <@Nikky> JoeYoung_: it was tev
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04:03 < JoeYoung_> hmm.
04:03 <@Nikky> he has a borg-like interface with the archiving system
04:04 < JoeYoung_> how long ago did I ask that?
04:04 < JoeYoung_> I don't have timestamps turned on
04:04 < JoeYoung_> I completely forgot
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04:05 < millinao> i need to try this at home
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04:13 <@Nikky> dunno
04:13 <@Nikky> I didn't pay attention
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04:31 < PollTroll> holy crap... my roommate decided that the living room is the best place to discuss his life plans with his new fiancee
04:32 < jayhawker> so?
04:32 < PollTroll> so they've been doing it all day
04:32 < jayhawker> heh okay
04:32 < jayhawker> so go to a bar...
04:32 < PollTroll> meaning I can't use my TV or make anything in the kitchen
04:33 < PollTroll> I don't drink
04:33 < jayhawker> you don't have to drink
04:33 < jayhawker> :P
04:34 < PollTroll> well, this is Provo... I don't even know if there's a single bar in this city
04:35 < PollTroll> ah, google maps found a few
04:35 < PollTroll> well anyway, I'm not going to a bar :)
04:35 < jayhawker> I don't know how you could have a university and not have bars
04:35 < jr> bars are overrated anyway
04:36 < jayhawker> heh
04:36 < jr> not saying i havent had good times at them...but if i go to one, it will most likely be lame
04:37 < jayhawker> maybe you're not choosing the right bars. I live in Lincoln and a lot of the bars there are lame.
04:37 < jr> i live in iowa.
04:37 < jr> we don't exactly have a thriving bar scene
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04:37 < jr> well actually...we sort of do, but most of the bars are lame heh
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04:38 < jr> i think our city, at one time, consumed more alcohol per person than any other city in the US
04:38 < jayhawker> what city would that be?
04:39 < Barrett> jayhawker: I don't know how a bar in this town would even make enough to stay in business
04:39 < Barrett> let alone the 6 or 7 that I see on google maps
04:39 < jayhawker> Barrett: agreed, Provo is way too conservative
04:41 < jr> jayhawker: dubuque, iowa
04:41 < jayhawker> if it was a town in Iowa, I figured it would be Iowa City
04:41 < jr> we're also in the running for the best drinking water each year
04:42 < jr> iowa city has some ok bars, but they're a little too "trendy" i think
04:42 < jr> a bunch of drunk college kids acting like dumb asses
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04:42 < jayhawker> well, that occurs anywhere you have a large university. except for, according to Barrett, Provo
04:43 < Barrett> my college experience is so much different than everywhere else :)
04:43 < jr> yeah i've gone to iowa city to party my fair share of times
04:44 < jayhawker> I hear Iowa City is cool... and that Ames is... well... Lames.
04:44 < jayhawker> Barrett: Good for you. I rather enjoy the bars.
04:45 < jr> lol ames is lame
04:45 < jr> i mean, if you are ever going to go to bars in iowa, you might as well just go to iowa city
04:45 < jr> at least there's loads of hot women
04:46 < jayhawker> I've heard good things about Iowa City. Ames didn't impress me when I went there, and others have told me it sucks.
04:46 < Barrett> I've been here 3 years and haven't even personally heard of any BYU student drinking alcohol or non-married BYU student having sex
04:46 < Barrett> now... it happens... especially among the non-lds athletes
04:47 < jayhawker> Students drinking alcohol?! The horrors!
04:47 < jr> heh
04:47 < jayhawker> Are we implying that non-LDS people are, well, immoral? You may want to rethink that statement, Barrett.
04:48 < jr> i drank a good amount during college, but i never had drunken sex with some random girl
04:48 < Barrett> I'm glad I don't drink... I wouldn't be able to live with how stupid I would act
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04:49 < jayhawker> Drinking is a part of the college experience. There's also a difference between having a few drinks and getting smashed.
04:49 < jr> i've decided i only have fun drinking when i get pretty drunk, but i hate the way i feel the next day
04:49 < jr> for obvious reasons
04:49 < jayhawker> Well, yes.
04:49 < jr> every once in awhile, the fun of getting really drunk outweighs the thought of how shitty i will feel the next day
04:49 < jr> but not very often anymore
04:49 < Barrett> It just doesn't seem appealing to me... acting stupid becomes the definition of fun
04:50 < jayhawker> It's a little easier to drink lots of alcohol when you don't have an 8 AM class the next morning, too. :-)
04:50 < jr> i have this thing at 8am every day called work now
04:50 < jr> also, drinking doesnt necessarily mean you have to act stupid
04:50 < Barrett> what's that?
04:50 < jr> work is a sad sad excuse for existence
04:50 < jayhawker> True. Work at 8 AM makes drinking the night before a bit more... irresponsible...
04:51 <@Nikky> 8AM classes?
04:51 <@Nikky> Only freshman have that crap
04:51 < Barrett> Nikky: have you seen Nutman lately?
04:51 < jayhawker> Nikky: That's because you learn to skip them by the time you're a sophomore.
04:51 <@Nikky> That's so last year
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04:52 <@Nikky> Now I just hook up with jayhawker 
04:52 < jayhawker> That's impossible. Nikky can't hang out with me. I'd never lower myself to going to Pullman.
04:52 <@Nikky> Neither can I
04:53 < millinao> i need to disable irc colours; every time I see yellow I think it's bw and every time I see blue I think it's nikky
04:53 < BrandonW> BW?
04:53 < millinao> ys
04:53 < millinao> yes*
04:54 < BrandonW> Does that mean me?
04:54 < millinao> yes
04:54 < Barrett> BrandonW: when does your phone arrive?
04:54 < BrandonW> UPS still won't acknowledge the tracking number, so I don't know.
04:55 < millinao> did you order a G1?
04:57 < BrandonW> Yes.
04:57 < millinao> ooh, nice
04:57 < BrandonW> It's my first foray into AT&T/T-Mobile, so we'll see how it does in my area.
04:57 < BrandonW> If it actually works out, which I kind of doubt, I might get an iPhone, too.
04:57 < BrandonW> So I can use them interchangeably.
04:57 < millinao> you can buy two phones on one connection?
04:58 < BrandonW> You can move the SIM card between them, yes.
04:58 < millinao> oh, good point
04:58 < millinao> I forgot about SIM cards; I use verizon
04:58 < BrandonW> Right now I'm on Verizon, never even had a SIM card.
04:58 < jr> you bought an unlocked G1?
04:58 < BrandonW> No, I'll unlock it later if T-Mobile ends up sucking.
04:58 < jr> ah ok
04:59 <@Nikky> T-Mobile is by far superior
04:59 < BrandonW> Didn't you say Verizon was superior?
04:59 <@Nikky> No
04:59 <@Nikky> ]Why would I say that?
05:00 < jayhawker> It depends where you are. On the plains, Verizon is the best.
05:00 < BrandonW> I was just trying to get him to contradict himself.
05:00 < BrandonW> He's said it before.
05:01 < millinao> he's nikky
05:01 < BrandonW> That doesn't mean it's not entertaining.
05:01 < jr> us cellular rules the world here in iowa
05:03 < millinao> verizon's connection is pretty iffy, I get 'searching for service' in my girlfriends house and she lives in a pretty rich and populated suburb; I also lose service on the beach about half the time, and in my school(although that may have to do with the building itself?)
05:03 < jayhawker> When I'm out in rural Nebraska (read: chasing storms), I frequently can't get an AT&T signal. But I can get a Verizon signal in most of those areas.
05:04 < jayhawker> millinao: Every network has holes. It's just a matter of which one has the fewest holes that affect you.
05:04 < millinao> yeah
05:04 < BrandonW> We know this.
05:04 < jayhawker> :P
05:05 < millinao> I actually have no idea what other networks are like with connection
05:05 < jayhawker> I'm just pointing out the ridiculousness of saying that Verizon's service is iffy because you have trouble getting a signal in a couple of locations.
05:05 < BrandonW> It's always been my impression that T-Mobile's not as big as others, like Sprint and Verizon, so I'm just a little concerned.
05:06 < BrandonW> My manager at work used to have T-Mobile and switched to Verizon.
05:06 < Merthsoft> i have t-mobile
05:06 < BrandonW> So not a good track record.
05:06 < millinao> I'd call if iffy if I'm losing connection in almost an entire suburb of a city
05:06 < jayhawker> At least on the plains, T-Mobile is awful. Sprint has good coverage along major roads, but otherwise, you roam and you pay for the roaming. And when you're roaming, you're on Verizon's network.
05:06 < jayhawker> AT&T is good on the southern plains. It's inferior to Verizon on the central and northern Plains.
05:07 < BrandonW> I really couldn't care less what it is, I just want a G1. :(
05:10 <@E-J> morning
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05:13 < Merthsoft> BrandonW: I have one of those, and I like it. I also like the coverage I've had with t-mobile
05:14 < jr> hi e-j
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05:20 <@E-J> hi jr
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05:21 <@efneTI92> [i_c-Y] It's like I'm the last sane person on Earth.
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05:25 <@efneTI92> [KermEEE] http://www.cemetech.net :: Leading The Way to the Future
05:29 < BrandonW> Why was there no ticalc.org article on the Nspire 1.7 OS update?
05:29 < BrandonW> Ridiculous.
05:29 < TD-Linux> write one
05:29 < BrandonW> It was months ago.
05:29 < TD-Linux> It is ticalc.org
05:29 < TD-Linux> you still have plenty of time
05:29 < BrandonW> No.
05:30 < BrandonW> The moment has passed.
05:30 < BrandonW> Not only was it months ago, but other sites posted about it.
05:30 < BrandonW> If ticalc.org posted about it, you'd just see "old...this was months ago...[this site] already mentioned this"
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05:43 < BrandonW> Oh thank goodness, they haven't fixed the Nspire exploits.
05:44 < BrandonW> Anyone in here have an Nspire?
05:46 <@E-J> suprisingly many rise their hands
05:47 < BrandonW> I'm curious how the certificate gets rebuilt by the emulator.
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05:54 < bsparks> once again
05:55 < bsparks> Andy_J's hallway, was cooler than #tcpa 
05:57 < asmand> hmm
05:57 < bsparks> his living room is cool too
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06:04 < JasonM> Ah some thngs never change.
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07:52 <@efneTI92> [Netham46] Narf!
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08:00 <@efneTI92> [Randomist] The pycho has entered the channel.  Sound the alarms.
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08:01 < Randomist> This guy is really lucky.  http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4913196365903075662&ei=lrN_SsyeEZPllQffrKHjCA
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08:07 <+Netham46> jesus
08:07 <+Netham46> that took 15 minutes to time out
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08:52 < BrandonW> You know, I associate colors with numbers.
08:53 < BrandonW> I guess I have cross-firing in those two sections of my brain, too.
08:59 < BrandonW> The real life Rain Man looks just like my software engineering teacher in college.
09:11  * tr1p1ea looks at BrandonW's watch
09:15 < BrandonW> I remember this show now, he learns E-J's language in a week and goes on TV or something.
09:15 < BrandonW> Or, Icelandic.
09:51 < _Digital> you want to be a savant?
10:12 < _Digital> xkcd++
10:14 < tr1p1ea> lol
10:14 < tr1p1ea> E-J might take offense to that
10:15 < _Digital> why? It's not a Finnish joke...
10:17 < _Digital> I want a new photo printer and new lenses...
10:17 < _Digital> I wish I had 3k-4K to spend on that
10:17 < tr1p1ea> actually, maybe Icelandics might take offense
10:18 < tr1p1ea> [instead[
10:18 < tr1p1ea> ]*
10:18 < _Digital> I'm still confused as to why
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10:34 < tr1p1ea> ...
10:34 < tr1p1ea> confusing iceland with finland
10:35 < _Digital> again?
10:36 < tr1p1ea> its like thinking canadians are americans
10:36 < tr1p1ea> or if you called a new zealander and aussie
10:36 < tr1p1ea> "bah, they're from basically the same place"
10:36 < _Digital> it's about a mexican/american beer commercial so I really don't get what you're going on about
10:37 < _Digital> which is why I am confused
10:37 < tr1p1ea> i guess i missed something then?
10:37 < _Digital> what do you think it is about?
10:38 < tr1p1ea> the guy learning icleandic in 1 week
10:38 < tr1p1ea> (or does that have something to do with the commercial?)
10:39 < _Digital> ah, you're talking about BrandonW, not xkcd
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10:39 < _Digital> why did I miss that
10:39 < _Digital> why did you miss that
10:50 < tr1p1ea> lol
10:50 < tr1p1ea> at least thats funny :)
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12:33 < mib_8c7rk> how does one overclock a ti-83
12:33 < mib_8c7rk> Ive seen 2 tutorials
12:34 < mib_8c7rk> one saez it can get the z80 to 15 mhz
12:34 < mib_8c7rk> the other sez it gets it to 24
12:34 < mib_8c7rk> naturally, i wanna get to 24
12:34 < mib_8c7rk> the issue is
12:34 < mib_8c7rk> i want to be able to switch between normal clocking
12:34 < mib_8c7rk> and overclocked
12:34 < mib_8c7rk> the 15 mhz instructions
12:34 < mib_8c7rk> have a tut for teh switch
12:35 < mib_8c7rk> the 24 mhz set does
12:35 < mib_8c7rk> not
12:35 < mib_8c7rk> have a set of instructions
12:35 < mib_8c7rk> aright
12:35 < mib_8c7rk> no ones here...
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12:39 < bosshawg> why is no one saying anythingggggggggggg
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12:55 <@efneTI92> [i_c-Y] It's like I'm the last sane person on Earth.
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13:00 <@efneTI92> [likeWOAH] It's like I'm the last sane person on Earth.
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13:08 < tr1p1ea> O_o
13:09 < tr1p1ea> why do people come in for 1 minute and leave impatiently
13:09 < tr1p1ea> ?
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13:30 < tr1p1ea> man scribblenaughts looks good
13:31 < tr1p1ea> nauts*
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13:52 < BrandonW> Because they don't understand the nature of IRC.
13:53 < BrandonW> I had no idea where E-J was from, I just knew somewhere in Europe and that it was a notoriously hard language to learn.
13:54 < BrandonW> That guy probably meant an 83+, not an 83, and he's almost certainly going to break it either way.
13:54 < BrandonW> "Overclocking" ideas never work.
13:54 < BrandonW> I have no sympathy.
14:08  * _Auron_ yawns
14:11 < tr1p1ea> he might have been reading documentation with regards to the SE calcs as well
14:11 < tr1p1ea> either way im off to bed
14:11 < tr1p1ea> night guys!
14:12 <@_Auron_> :O
14:12 <@_Auron_> night
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14:39 <@efneTI92> [Tari_] Remember, remember the 5th of November
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15:10 <@efneTI92> [Storm\_] Yes rivereye, it is time to go fishing.
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15:42 <@efneTI92> [Storm\_] Yes rivereye, it is time to go fishing.
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17:33 <+krisk> yo
17:35 < jr> hey krisk
17:36 <+krisk> i think its time for me to move to win7
17:36 <+krisk> xp is crapping out
17:38 <+krisk> services & controller app crashes on boot
17:39 <+krisk> http://forums.techguy.org/windows-nt-2000-xp/685528-services-controller-app-crashes-forcing.html
17:41 < i_c-Y> way to go krisk 
17:41 < i_c-Y> you suck at life
17:41 <+krisk> lol hi i_c-Y
17:43 <@E-J> BrandonW: finnish is more notorious than icelandic
17:43 <+krisk> now i haven o audio
17:43 <+krisk> and explorer is flipping
17:43 < jr> krisk you need to conver to linux and do all of your daily system tasks in a terminal from now on
17:43 < jr> convert :)
17:44 <+krisk> ive been thinking of making a debian install for coding because of some window management/ide wishes ive had lately
17:44 <+krisk> but i need windows for the multimedias and stuff
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17:44 <@efneTI92> [Storm|wrk] Yes rivereye, it is time to go fishing.
17:45 <+krisk> and games
17:45 < jr> yeah i guess so
17:45 <+krisk> kinda the whole point of my two monitors currently is gaming/movies while having windows apps running on the other screen
17:45 < jr> windows 7 is good
17:45 <+krisk> i would want linux at work though
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17:46 <+krisk> also i may or may not have kicked my desktop case just now
17:46 <+krisk> it is being noisy lately
17:46 <+krisk> which is annoying me greatly
17:47 < jr> fan problems?
17:47 <+krisk> yeah
17:47 < i_c-Y> clean your damn case
17:48 <+krisk> its clean enough
17:48 < i_c-Y> then use a fan controller.
17:48 <+krisk> the fan itself isnt the problem
17:48 <+krisk> its the case, i lost the screw for the side plate so it vibrates loudly
17:49 <+krisk> although i am trying to start speedfan now
17:49 <+krisk> but explorer is not liking me anymore
17:50 <+krisk> lol the windows combo keys arent responding ([win]+[e] for example)
17:50 < i_c-Y> haven't you heard of tape?
17:50 < i_c-Y> or glue
17:50 <+krisk> or another screw that fits
17:50 <+krisk> but my entire OS failing hard kind of takes priority right now
17:50 < i_c-Y> thats what you get for using xp
17:51 < i_c-Y> shoulda moved to vista
17:51 <+krisk> kinda have the feeling vista wouldve annoyed me much more
17:51 <@E-J> at work, customer told me that i'm satan worshipper, because i had hateform -t-shirt
17:52 < i_c-Y> thats because you are a satan worshipper.
17:54 <@E-J> she (older woman) had lost her cross charm and instantly when see saw my t-shirt she started to talk how nowdays whole society is full of satan worshippers and how crosses are burned etc
17:54 < Storm|wrk> lulz
17:55 < Storm|wrk> My Laptop will be here by Friday!!!!
17:55 < Storm|wrk> :)
17:55 <@E-J> she claimed that police had stole her cross charm but she couldn't make report of offence because she had made too many false ones before
17:56 < Storm|wrk> oldlady.crazy++
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17:57 < i_c-Y> Storm|wrk: and by friday they actually mean 3 weeks from now
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17:57 <@E-J> Storm|wrk: indeed
17:58 < i_c-Y> is dell saying it will get there by friday or a shipping company?
17:58 < Storm|wrk> i_c-Y: nah it was shipped Saturday and it should be here in 3-5 days, I'm hoping Wednesday. 
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17:58 < Storm|wrk> Dell said 3-5 days and that its shipped.
17:58 < i_c-Y> do you have a tracking number?
17:58 < Storm|wrk> not last I checked
17:58 < i_c-Y> if not, then its not shipped.
17:59 < i_c-Y> and dell is just jerking you around.
17:59 < i_c-Y> and no im not saying this to be a dick - im serious.
18:00 < Storm|wrk> it says it was shipped on teh 9th but the estimated delivery date is the 19th :/
18:00 < i_c-Y> every manufacturer acts like this
18:00 < Storm|wrk> and yet it says 3-5 days shipping wtf?
18:01 < i_c-Y> see?
18:01 < i_c-Y> doesnt make sense does it
18:01 < i_c-Y> you'll get it in 2 or 3 weeks probably
18:02 < Storm|wrk> well the estimated delivery date hasn't changed at all since I originally ordered it so IDK.
18:02 < Storm|wrk> the issue is I'll need to get it setup before school starts :(
18:02 < i_c-Y> tough luck
18:03 < i_c-Y> when does school start
18:03 < Storm|wrk> hmm let me check again, I don't remember the exact date
18:04 < Tari_> hehe
18:04 < Tari_> notepad++ is using > 700 MB of RAM
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18:05 < i_c-Y> way to go tari
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18:05 < Tari> it's finding all the commas in a 250 MB file
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18:05 < i_c-Y> if you cut down on all that ascii child pron then you wouldnt deal with that
18:06 < Tari> >800..
18:06 < jr> krisk: what's fucked?
18:06 < i_c-Y> everything about him
18:06 < Storm|wrk> hmm it looks like the 31st is my first day
18:08 < Tari> much better approach:
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18:08 < Tari> grep "," file | wc -c
18:08 < jr> haha
18:09 < Tari> finished in an instant
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18:12 <+krisk> http://jonathonhill.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/eclipse_syntax_highlighting.png
18:12 <+krisk> anybody recognize that font?
18:13 < i_c-Y> did you try running it through whatthefont or something?
18:14 <+krisk> hmm?
18:14 < Tari> looks like a bitstream vera monospaced
18:16 < Tari> Bitstream Vera Sans Mono is my guess
18:16 <+krisk> g is different
18:18 <@E-J> asmand: http://www.finnerikvinje.no/blog/?p=3053
18:18 <+krisk> the IDE's font seems to be bitstream vera sans mono though yes
18:18 < i_c-Y> which font do you want
18:19 <+krisk> the one the code is written in
18:19 <+krisk> I´ve made my highlighting scheme the same but courier new sucks on my work monitor
18:20 < i_c-Y> try cropping a sample of it and runnin git through whatthefont
18:20 <+krisk> yeah i am doing that now thanks
18:20 <+krisk> didnt know about that site
18:22 <+krisk>  	
18:22 <+krisk> Problem with automatic identification
18:22 <+krisk> Image is too complex: 102 components found. There is a 100 component limit.
18:22 <+krisk> lawl
18:24 < i_c-Y> crop it down moar
18:24 <+krisk> yeah i know im typing in characters now
18:24 <+krisk> just though it was funny
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18:34 <+krisk> no success
18:43 <+krisk> I think it´s Consolas
18:47 < jr> kewl
18:49 <+krisk> and windows is behaving again
18:49 <+krisk> just crashes when i launch speedfan
18:49 <+krisk> :(
18:53 <@E-J> http://www.kuvalauta.fi/b/src/124985546263.gif
18:53 < Storm|wrk> i_c-Y: the estimated delivery date was updated to the 13th, so at least they're saying it'll be here sooner rather than later
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19:25 <@efneTI92> [_Auron|G1] We called it Sin.
19:32 < Tari> mmm, peanut butter on toast
19:36 < Storm|wrk> omnomnomnomnom
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19:45 <@_Auron_> melted peanut butter on toasted english muffins with sugar sprinkled on top
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20:02 < Storm|wrk> I wish Windows had native SSH :/
20:02 < Tari> and a non-fail command line?
20:03 < Tari> (yay for cygwin, though)
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20:06 < Storm|wrk> yeah but cygwin is close but its still not native.
20:06 < Andy_J> sure it is
20:06 < Storm|wrk> telnet is native, but it has no security
20:07 < Storm|wrk> I guess cygwin counts but its not the same.
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20:07 < Storm|wrk> I mean I can't ssh in, type x11vnc, and be on my way.
20:08 < Storm|wrk> can cygwin even run other windows apps?
20:08 < Storm|wrk> like could I start Office from the cygwin command line?
20:08 < Andy_J> cygwin is just a library
20:08 < Andy_J> like the C library is a library
20:09 < Tari> and yes, you can
20:10 < sparksPod> Yes we can?
20:10 < Tari> (run other windows apps from it)
20:10 < Andy_J> SI SE PUEDE
20:10 < Tari> type 'notepad' into a cygwin shell sometime
20:10 < Andy_J> *whistle solo*
20:10 < sparksPod> Red note section <_<
20:11 < sparksPod> aaanyway
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20:30 < mtgrss111> yo
20:31 < mtgrss111> whats the command to get bots to acknowledge me again?
20:31 < Tari> IDENT password botnick
20:31 < Tari> (botnick only if your current nick isn't the name of your bot account)
20:33 < Storm|wrk> mtgrss111: if your new host-mask is one you'll use again you may want to group it with you current bot account.
20:33 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v mtgrss111] by efneTI92
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20:34 <+mtgrss111> eh, I don't care that much, nor do I remember how that's done.
20:34 < Storm|wrk> lol
20:35 < Andy_J> Storm|wrk: er, that's what IDENT does
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20:35 < Storm|wrk> ident does group automatically, I didn't know that
20:36 < Storm|wrk> some botnets don't so i wasn't sure
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20:47 < _Auron|G1> I certainly think my next game will be a vertical scrolling shooter
20:49 < Peter_W> taking on the likes of Phoenix, and Phantom Star? :P
20:49 < Peter_W> Phoenix was never really my favorite game... it was better on the 68k, but even so..
20:50 < _Auron|G1> well, no
20:50 < Peter_W> PS was good, though short -- I should have written those levels that I was given the references for ><
20:50 < _Auron|G1> bit more sophisticated than phoenix
20:50 < Peter_W> ah
20:50 < _Auron|G1> this is for android
20:51 < _Auron|G1> not sure if you know but I'm an android dev now
20:51 < Storm|wrk> _Auron|G1: how much were you charging for your game?
20:51 < _Auron|G1> 2.99
20:51 < jr> i liked phoenix
20:51 < _Auron|G1> probably going to charge that much for my next one as well
20:52 < Storm|wrk> hmm I wonder if I could get the Android OS to run on my h2200 no phone chipset though...
20:52 < jr> _Auron|G1: do you get that full amount all to yourself when you sell teh game?
20:52 < _Auron|G1> I get 70%, so in the case of 2.99 I get 2.09
20:52 < Storm|wrk> I know I could run it on My HTC Touch/Vouge but I don't want to risk it haveing issues.
20:53 < jr> ah that's not too bad i suppose
20:53 < Peter_W> _Auron_: Yeah I've been around while you were talking about Stroids and such :P
20:53 < _Auron|G1> considering it's all very automated and updates are extremely quick and easy, I'd say it's great
20:53 < _Auron|G1> ah okay
20:54 < _Auron|G1> I added my new GV number to my app listings
20:56 < _Auron|G1> 214-711-VDGM whee
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21:13 < Baggins> Does anybody know where I can find details on the format of 89y files?
21:13 < mokomull> ticalc.org archives, /txt ?
21:15 < Baggins> found it, thanks
21:15 < Storm|wrk> http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/247/24750.html
21:16 < Baggins> ooh
21:17 < Baggins> that one is better
21:17 < Baggins> thanks Storm
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21:22 < jr> gah...constant back pain
21:24 <@E-J> just read from finnish h1n1 site that if you are vegan, you can't use h1n1 vaccine because it's made from animal based substances and animal tested
21:28 < jr> aphmm
21:28 < jr> and hmm
21:28 < jr> i think i'm supposed to get that
21:30 <@E-J> my father asked if i'm available in autumn to my current job, if biggest fears of that disease become true in finland
19:48 <@E-J> they have suggested that when it hits, 1/3 of people working are sick
19:48 <+krisk> and then get better after a week or so
19:48 <+krisk> oh noes
19:51 < jr> yeah
19:51 < jr> unless it mutates into a killing machine
19:52 < Peter_W> hopefully I can get vaccinated this fall before getting it or something
19:52 < Peter_W> blargh :p
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19:53 <@E-J> and kills also other people than mexicans, americans and dutch
19:55 < asmand> *checks in for a short while*
19:57 < Peter_W> ack, it's a bot!
20:00 <+krisk> http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/595421/3945baf6/kat_vs._zand.html
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20:01 <@efneTI92> [Randomist] The pycho has entered the channel.  Sound the alarms.
20:04 < ryantmer_> What, exactly, is a pycho?
20:04 <+krisk> mom
20:06 < jr> tycho brahe
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20:10 < ryantmwor> Oh.
20:10 -!- Randomist [~winterven@cdm-75-109-109-35.asbnva.dh.suddenlink.net] has quit [Client Quit]
20:11 < ryantmwor> So it is 9.
20:11 -!- ryantmwor is now known as ryantwork
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20:11 < jr> MOM, IT'S MRS. MCLAUGHLIN
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20:14 < Andy_J> ryantwork: NICKLEN=9 doesn't tell you that?
20:20 < ryantwork> Andy_J, I've never even read the MOTD stuff
20:21 < Andy_J> NICKLEN isn't in the MOTD
20:21 < Andy_J> it's in the 005 >_>
20:21 < ryantwork> "MOTD stuff". I meant the whole connection window thingy.
20:21 < ryantwork> And I don't know what the 005 is
20:22 < _Auron|G1> server window
20:23 < ryantwork> Yeah, just read that. Never really knew it had a name, actually.
20:23 < jr> i think typing /version gets it
20:25 < asmand> night
20:30 < jr> day
20:34 <+krisk> jr could you send something to ports
20:35 < jr> yeah sure
20:35 <+krisk> http://zip.4chan.org/fit/src/1249874741563.jpg
20:35 <+krisk> nsfw
20:35 < Andy_J> then stop posting the links here
20:35 < Andy_J> if it isn't sfw
20:35 <+krisk> i dont understand
20:36 < Andy_J> it's 4chan, we don't give a flying fuck
20:36 <+krisk> ok good for you
20:36 < jr> she has big....hips
20:37 <+krisk> i have been told its fine as long as links have a warning to accompany them if nessecary
20:37 < jr> yeah i recall that also
20:37 <+krisk> and others have been told the same when i was there to see it happen
20:37 <+krisk> so meh
20:39 < jr> krisk: he thinks its shopped
20:39 <+krisk> and? :P
20:40 <+krisk> i think either her hips have a light-bending gravity field, or have been shooped yes
20:40 <+krisk> look @ radiator
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20:40 < jr> heh i dont know, but it looks strange nonetheless
20:40 <+krisk> its heavily shooped
20:41 <+krisk> but i didnt inspect it very well
20:41 <+krisk> http://zip.4chan.org/tv/src/1249935565144.jpg
20:41 <+krisk> much better
20:41 <+krisk> and sfw
20:42 < jr> lol yeah
20:43 < jr> ive seen a few of those, but usually the text is on some body part
20:44 <+krisk> this example is cute
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20:44 <@efneTI92> [Tari] Remember, remember the 5th of November
20:45 < jr> heh
20:45 < jr> she looks young
20:51 <+krisk> so do i
20:53 < jr> i probably look old and i dont even realize it
20:53 < jr> i feel old, at least my back does
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20:54 <+krisk> needs more deadlifts
20:55 < jr> it hurts like a mother fucker
20:56 < jr> lower back pain
20:56 <+krisk> ok less deadlifts
20:56 <+krisk> cause?
20:56 < jr> not sure, started having problems about a week ago
20:56  * Randomist yawns and writes a power manager.
20:57 <+krisk> http://img.420chan.org/sa/src/1249904717502.jpg
20:57 < incubus> I'd fuck the shit out of her
20:57 < incubus> pardon my french
20:58 < incubus> the hair is a big turnoff, but MEH
20:58 < Storm|wrk> Gah one of the other Hot tub stores around here is claiming the one Brands of hot tubs we sell is filling for bankruptcy 0.o
20:58 < jr> hmm
20:59 <+krisk> the hair can be fixed
20:59 < jr> i dont like her hair either, but the rest of her
20:59 <+krisk> as long as its only up there
20:59 < jr> is great
21:00 <+krisk> http://img.420chan.org/sa/src/1249922818846.jpg
21:00 <+krisk> :3
21:00 < jr> her body looked soft and pleasing
21:00 < jr> first pic
21:01 < incubus> No thanks
21:01 < jr> most of these girls are probably psycho nutjobs who i would never have interest in dating heh
21:02 < incubus> jr, would you teabag a chick?
21:02 <+krisk> <jr> girls are psycho nutjobs
21:02 <+krisk> fixed
21:02 < jr> heh
21:03 < jr> when shes sleeping?
21:03 <+krisk> incubus why would you do that?
21:04 < incubus> because it feels good?
21:04 <+krisk> does it?
21:04 < incubus> It feels empowering :D
21:05 < jr> if the girl said "teabag me"
21:05 < jr> i probably would
21:05 < incubus> lol you're such a tool
21:05 < jr> otherwise i have little interest in that
21:05 < jr> how is that being a tool
21:05 <+krisk> teabagging is pseudoscience
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21:06 < jr> in approximately 8-10 days, i will begin my regimen to get stronger and faster
21:07 <+krisk> cool
21:07 <+krisk> how
21:07 < incubus> krisk, haha yup!
21:07 < jr> by resuming my lifting and eating more/cleaner
21:07 < incubus> Teabagging is about as scientific as dieticiary work
21:08 <+krisk> jr explain more
21:08 < jr> i'm still researching what i want to do exactly but i think i'm going to stay away from supplements even though i used them in the past
21:09 < jr> i'm trying to figure out which exercises are most beneficial for baseball
21:09 < jr> they say its important to have a strong core, and it's also important to have strong legs and triceps for obvious reasons
21:10 < jr> but i also want to get faster and lose some of the body fat i've accumlated
21:10 < jr> it seems complicated
21:10 < jr> i read the bodybuilding.com forums quite a bit lately and everyone has different opinions
21:10 <+krisk> well unless you can squat 1.5 x your bodyweight bench your bodyweight and deadlift 2 x your bodyweight you dont need to get very complicated at all
21:11 <+krisk> bodybuilding.com is for bodybuilding and guidos
21:11 <+krisk> and the occasional dude who actually knows something
21:11 < jr> well some threads there have focused on training for a specific sports
21:11 < jr> sport*
21:11 <+krisk> you should look at beginners sports strength training
21:11 < jr> do you have any good docs
21:11 <+krisk> which is pretty generic unless your strength is decent already
21:12 <+krisk> then you add complimentary exercises that are specific for your sport after a while, and eventually change the whole program after your basic stats are decent
21:13 <+krisk> Starting Strength or Stronglifts (older version that isn't for the truely weak) should be good for just about anyone
21:13 <+krisk> but you may want to make sure yuor back is ok again, at least before your squat and deadlift are starting to get high
21:14 < jr> its weird
21:14 < jr> i've had back pain in the past, and usually it goes away after a little while
21:14 < jr> after 1-2 weeks
21:14 < jr> its been a week and it seems worse than it has ever been though
21:14 <+krisk> but thatll take you plenty of time to get decent strength and by then youll know what else to do that is more specific for baseball (and you may actually need more specific training by then)
21:15 < jr> also, i have a stretch of baseball games where we play every day this week and two games on both saturday and sunday
21:16 < jr> i wish i had more weights at home, i'm thinking about cancelling my cable subscription and getting a monthly membership to a 24/7 gym
21:16 <+krisk> the running in baseball is pretty generic and covered by squats, cleans, and sprints
21:16 <+krisk> the throwing idk, especially with your shoulder issues
21:16 < jr> less tv + more weight lifting = win...right?
21:17 < jr> also, i can't really do much to throw harder, lifting doesnt help that too much
21:17 <+krisk> right, ive gotten rid of my tv yay
21:17 < jr> i'm going to continue doing rubber band exercises to target specific muscle areas in my shoulder/upper back that support the rotator cuff
21:17 <+krisk> yeah but you can build shoulder strength to improve its health
21:17 <+krisk> and make it less prone to further injury
21:18 <+krisk> t-nation had an article on it about shoulder issues that had some baseball specific examples
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21:19 < incubus> I wihs 
21:19 < incubus> I wish I hadn't messed up my shoulders accidentaly
21:19 < jr> when i was in physical therapy, they said having shoulder strength is good, but its important to do the rubber band exercises to get the small muscles in there
21:19 <+krisk> of course
21:19 < jr> because once you start lifting too much, the larger muscle groups take over
21:19 <+krisk> im not saying replace it with overhead press
21:19 < jr> well, not "too much", but "larger amounts of weight"
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21:20 <+krisk> im just saying everything together will help more than just a little really specific stuff
21:20 < jr> do you have a specific program that you follow
21:20 <+krisk> yeah I try to keep with Starting Strength as purely as I can
21:21 < jr> do you have a document that outlines it?
21:21 < jr> or do you just know it
21:21 <+krisk> i know it inside and out
21:21 <+krisk> its from a book
21:21 <+krisk> by Mark Rippetoe, I have a pdf scan of it's newer edition
21:21 <+krisk> as well as the accompanying book Practical Programming
21:21 < jr> hmm
21:21 < jr> is it available anywhere
21:22 <+krisk> it's entirely focused on beginner strength athletes for sports or whatever you want
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21:22 <+krisk> you can order it on amazon
21:22 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v mtgrss111] by efneTI85
21:22 <+krisk> or i can mail you a pdf
21:23 < jr> if you would, send it to jeff.rosemeyer@gmail.com
21:23 < jr> or if theres a torrent out there somewhere, i could find that
21:23 <+krisk> once I'm at 140kg squat 80-90kg bp 60 overhead press and 180+deadlift maybe with a slightly different program when I'm getting near and I need it, then I'll start looking at something else to follow
21:24 < jr> i am a weakling when it comes to bp
21:24 <+krisk> which is the whole idea of this program, get to your beginner's genetic potential as efficiently as possible, then youll have to change training to accomodate new goals and possiblities
21:24 <+krisk> me too
21:24 <+krisk> but I'm pretty sure I've identified my eating as the problem
21:24 <+krisk> and for benchpress I already have bad luck with being tall and everything, but fuck benchpress, overhead press is where it's at
21:25 < jr> have you started to eat more or just differently?
21:25 <+krisk> I have been eating enough in total but not enough in proteins and too much in fat
21:25 <+krisk> I think I'm eating just enough protein to gain on squat and deadlift, but not on the presses
21:26 <+krisk> from what I've read that's a pretty classic problem with the presses, the solution is: EAT MOAR
21:26 < jr> how many g's of protein do you eat in a day
21:26 < jr> like 4x body weight?
21:26 < jr> in kg
21:26 < incubus> psueeeeedo science!
21:26 < jr> err wait
21:26 <+krisk> well I had counted on a gallon of milk taking care of protein needs but apparently I need some more to progress on all the lifts
21:27 < jr> i was thinking wrong
21:27 <+krisk> eh, 1.5-2x bw is just a guidline rule
21:27 <+krisk> I think I'm at that anyway
21:27 < jr> in kg?
21:28 <+krisk> yeah easily
21:28 <+krisk> the milk alone is 148grams a day
21:28 < jr> wow
21:28 < jr> a gallon of milk a day
21:28 < jr> that's over $100 a month over here
21:29 <+krisk> slightly more actually
21:29 < jr> i dont know what it is over there
21:29 <+krisk> 4 L because of easy 1 L packs to drink in the morning, lunch, afternoon, and before bed
21:29 < jr> ah...our milk comes in gallons and half gallons :)
21:29 <+krisk> yeah just over 100 euro a month just for milk
21:29 < jr> do you drink anything but milk?
21:30 <+krisk> theoretically, no
21:30 < jr> skim, 2%, whole?
21:30 <+krisk> whole because x4 liter that's 700 calories more every day
21:30 <+krisk> and because good fats
21:31 <+krisk> but I take a cola sometimes at work to wake up and clear my throat when it's being slimy n shit
21:31 < jr> do you notice any excess body fat gain at all?
21:31 <+krisk> one can a week tops
21:31 <+krisk> yes
21:31 < jr> dont you worry about that
21:31 <+krisk> this year I've gained about 15kg total, probably 4 or so in fat
21:31 <+krisk> yes
21:32 <+krisk> like I said, my carb and fat intake has been too high relatively speaking
21:32 <+krisk> but I'm still skinny
21:32 < jr> why dont you switch to lower fat milk then?
21:32 <+krisk> because I'll have to compensate for it with other foods
21:33 <+krisk> still gotta make 4500kcal total you know
21:33 < jr> you could substitute something with less fat
21:33 < jr> i dunno
21:33 < jr> do you eat canned tuna
21:34 <+krisk> nah whole milk is good, I just gotta fix the rates so the total fat and carb doesnt get too high, so things that arent milk will have to be low in fat (easily done by taking foods for protein and carbs specifically)
21:34 <+krisk> i dont like tuna, smells like cat food
21:34 < jr> ah
21:34 < jr> i like it
21:35 <+krisk> just over a Gallon Of Milk A Day (GOMAD woo): 2640kcal, 148gr protein, 172gr carbs, 148gr fat
21:35 <+krisk> desired dayly total: 4500kcal (350gr protein, 400gr carb, 166.67gr fat)
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21:36 <+krisk> so, another 227gr protein and 203gr carb with 18gr fat are needed... for protein that's 1KG of chicken <_<
21:36 <+krisk> protein is a bitch
21:37 < jr> there's a lot of protein in canned tuna heh
21:37 <+krisk> yeah but anything htat has "a lot" of protein has A LOT of water in it
21:37 < jr> you could just go the protein powder route
21:37 <+krisk> so eating it is inefficient as hell, chicken is one of the leanest possible sources of protein and it's only 22grams per 100gram
21:38 <+krisk> whey protein is great
21:38 <+krisk> but I need meat
21:38 < jr> heh
21:38 <+krisk> my protein powder is for backup
21:38 < jr> i dont really like drinking protein powder
21:39 <+krisk> well there ya go
21:39 <+krisk> try drinking enough of it to take in another 200 grams of protein
21:39 <+krisk> great brand whey protein will be about 80% protein
21:39 < jr> yeah
21:39 <+krisk> so you'll need 240grams, in water or milk.. it's not gonna be fun
21:39 < jr> i was drinking the Optiumum Nutrition stuff for awhile
21:40 < jr> yeah it's a ridiculous amount
21:40 <+krisk> normally people do 1 or 2 doses of whey protein for like 30 grams each
21:40 <+krisk> so thats 5-10x as much if you only take whey protein along with milk
21:40 <+krisk> I'd take the 1kg of chicken
21:41 < jr> its times like this i wish i lived with my parents and could eat all their food again without paying for it heh
21:41 <+krisk> yeah
21:41 <+krisk> chicken is 6 euro per kilo here
21:41 <+krisk> thats not fun per day
21:42 < jr> i'm not very smart with food
21:42 <+krisk> at least its edible when you devide it over the day though
21:42 < jr> yeah i love chicken
21:43 <+krisk> it would be 5 times 200gram chicken with 800mL milk and some bread or whatever for carbs, so basically 2 mcchickens with milk 5 times a day
21:43 <+krisk> but homemade so its not crap
21:43 < jr> lol mcchickens
21:43 <+krisk> :P
21:44 <+krisk> I mean, that's humane to eat you know
21:44 <+krisk> its easyer because its baked
21:45 <+krisk> I tried having 200grams of chicken slices to put on sadnwiches... not fun
21:45 < jr> lol yeah
21:45 < jr> that's a lot of chicken dude
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21:45 <+krisk> tastes like ass because each slice is extra flavored since normal peopel only put one slice on a sandwich... so that times like 20
21:45 < jr> i used to work in a deli and we would put .25-.3 lbs. of meat on an 8 inch sub
21:46 <+krisk> and after finishing two whole packs of sliced chicken you dont really want to eat anymore that day
21:46 < jr> i believe it
21:46 <+krisk> so 5 meals of that a day would be impossible
21:46 <+krisk> but, warm chick on a white bun with some veggies.. omnomnomnom all day long baby
21:46 <+krisk> *warm chicken
21:47 <@_Auron_> o.o
21:47 <@_Auron_> !qadd <krisk> but, warm chick on a white bun with some veggies.. omnomnomnom all day long baby
21:47 <@efneTI86> Quote 1629 added
21:47 <+krisk> oh 86 is back just in time i see
21:47 <@_Auron_> of course
21:47 < jr> heh
21:48 <+krisk> lol nice according to my excel sheet 1kg of chicken = 228grams of protein.. i needed 227
21:48 <+krisk> it can be slightly less though because muesly and bread have some protein too
21:49 <+krisk> the real problem is how to eat it at work, cant really heat it up there since there's not even a microwave :/
21:50 < jr> that sucks
21:50 < jr> we have a few microwaves
21:51 <+krisk> I could go and move out to near my job and just go home for 10 minutes to get my chickens
21:52 <+krisk> I dont think buying a kg of warm chicken sub from a store every day is going to be very good for my wallet
21:52 < jr> i thought it was hard to find a place in the netherlands
21:52 < jr> or find a place that is available at least
21:53 < jr> you could just buy a pound of chicken every day from the deli and eat it out of the bag
21:53 <+krisk> for a reasonable price, yeah
21:54 < jr> only problem with that is that there is generally a ton of sodium in deli meat it seems
21:54 <+krisk> a pound isnt a kg :)
21:54 < jr> oh shit
21:54 < jr> heh
21:54 <+krisk> and yeah itll be shitty meat
21:54 < jr> end of the day, my brain is tired
21:55 <+krisk> i think the best solution is to take an hour or so when normal people would be having dinner and prepare the chicken for the next day, throw in freezer, and just heat up when I need it
21:56 < jr> hmm
21:56 < jr> this seems like way too much work to get that extra protein
21:56 < jr> don't people have other ways
21:57 <+krisk> I dont see a better way to get 300+grams of protein a day
21:57 < jr> also, i just realized that the ibuprofen i took seems to have taken the edge off my back pain
21:58 <+krisk> might be ok to have a little less protein, but imho its always better to have too much protein than it is to have too much fats
21:59 < jr> so theres a 144g in a gallon of milk right?
21:59 <+krisk> because its the last thing that would be stored as belly fat so it has plenty of time to be used for something else that is deficit
21:59 <+krisk> yeah, whole milk
21:59 <+krisk> about that much anyway
21:59 < jr> just drink two gallons of milk duh
21:59 <+krisk> dont sue me if you buy a gallon jug and it has 143 or 150
21:59 <+krisk> lolduh
21:59 < jr> haha
22:00 < jr> i dont know then
22:00 < jr> 5pm, it is time for me to leave
22:00 <+krisk> the problem with that is it'd be very high in fat
22:00 < jr> did you send that pdf
22:00 <+krisk> 50% of calories from milk come from fat
22:00 < jr> yeah i know, i was just sort of kidding anyway
22:00 <+krisk> I'm sure people have tried :P
22:01 < jr> maybe
22:01 < jr> i'm out though, see ya
22:01 <+krisk> cya
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22:11 <@efneTI92> [KermEEE] http://www.cemetech.net :: Leading The Way to the Future
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22:20 <+mtgrss111> sup KermEEE
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22:28 < Storm|wrk> Randomist: devsda2 is actually pretty good :P
22:28 < Storm|wrk>  /dev/sda1*
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23:05 <@efneTI92> [KermEEE] http://www.cemetech.net :: Leading The Way to the Future
23:12 < Randomist> http://www.geek.com/articles/chips/amazing-cg-film-from-1980-2009087/
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23:17 <@efneTI92> [i_c-Y] It's like I'm the last sane person on Earth.
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23:48 < i_c-Y> i hate when they show haxorz on tv
23:56 < Barrett> _Auron_: you poked
23:56 <@_Auron_> Barrett: I'm working on the tilemapper right now. did you give it a try yet?
23:56 < Barrett> I got it to run, yes
23:57 < Barrett> (yesterday.. I see you've committed some changes)
23:57 <@_Auron_> I have?
23:58 < i_c-Y> >:3 is a lion get in the car
23:58 < Barrett> oh... maybe it just decided to undo some of the changes I made (I actually didn't make any... but maybe that's what it thinks it did)
23:58 < Randomist> i_c-Y:  Are they always typing in slow-motion and spinning circles around a TouchPad?
23:58 < BrandonW> Darmok...and Jalad...at...Tanagra!
23:58 < i_c-Y> Randomist: ?
23:59 < Randomist> Oh, wait, that's what the news does.
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