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00:45 < bsparks> ....
00:45 < bsparks> calc84, pick a nick and STICK WITH IT
00:52 < ports> lol
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01:03 < ryantmer> Did calc84 just go through the entire Dragonfire nick list?
01:03 < bsparks> a few of them, yes
01:03 < calc84> oh lol
01:04 < calc84> forgot I was on this channel too
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01:11 < BigOrange> Hello, I was wondering if anyone knew of an application to view .pdf files or powerpoint slides on Ti-83+ Silver Edition
01:11 < incubus> lol
01:11 < incubus> where the fuck is BrandonW
01:11 < bsparks> *smirks*
01:12 < BigOrange> is that directed towards me?
01:12 < incubus> no
01:12 < incubus> oh the smirk? *shrug*
01:13 <@Nikky> BigOrange: no
01:13 < incubus> Nikky is alive!
01:13 <@Nikky> Last I knew you could view excel sheets and .doc files
01:13 <@Nikky> ...maybe
01:13 <@Nikky> but ppt and pdf, nah
01:14 <@Nikky> Just too much data to get on that screen
01:14 < BigOrange> boo 
01:14 < BigOrange> that stinks
01:14 <@Nikky> not to mention most (all?) ppts are bigger than the calfulator's ram
01:14 < BigOrange> I need to get a chart on the calculator
01:14 < BigOrange> whats the best way
01:14 < incubus> http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/purity.png  -  Owned
01:14 < BigOrange> just 1 slide
01:14 < ports> Nikky, i dont think im going to make it to California
01:14 <@Nikky> You could make it manially
01:14 <@Nikky> ports: I'm sorry
01:14 < ports> me too
01:15 < calc84> 1 slide?
01:15 < BigOrange> yes
01:15 < calc84> yeah, you can make it manually
01:15 < ports> Nikky, im trying to find packers-bears NFL tickets for 9/13... and doing both + moving in September is going to kill my wallet... on top of the new car i just got
01:15 < calc84> and save as a pic
01:15 < BigOrange> what can view pics
01:15 < calc84> if you go to the graph screen and select Text(, you can type stuff there
01:15 < ports> what about PostScript or something?
01:16 < ports> BigOrange, the 83+ doesnt really have a good lcd pixel density.. itd look horrible
01:16 < calc84> use the StorePic command to save pics
01:16 < calc84> like StorePic 5 would save picture 5
01:16 <@Nikky> Yeah, that's about it really
01:16 < calc84> RecallPic to recall them
01:16 < BigOrange> dam
01:16 <@Nikky> unless you want to go totally hardcore and do ASM greyscale stuff
01:17 <@Nikky> but still, it probably won't get much better
01:17 <@Nikky> :D
01:17 < ports> Nikky, im hoping to go to Seattle this yea
01:17 < ports> year
01:18 < Barrett> Nikky: fix your wp backup script thing?
01:18 <@Nikky> I turned it off
01:18 <@Nikky> :)
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01:20 < Barrett> Nikky: would you like a second vcpu?
01:25 < BrandonW> incubus: I'm right fucking here.
01:27 < incubus> BrandonW, :D
01:28 < incubus> Thursday, all I can say is be ready thursday
01:28 < incubus> BrandonW, can you start throwing out reading material for me for the ti-83+/SE/84+/SE, a few quality references/manuals, etc?
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01:31 < BrandonW> Not really.
01:31 < BrandonW> Depends on what you want to know about.
01:31 < BrandonW> The SDK is a good start.
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01:33 <+Michael_V> and now you can view sdkbeta.txt
01:33 <+Michael_V> containing SDKs which were in the beta release of the SDK but never in the released one
01:33 <+Michael_V> *B_CALLs
01:34 <+Michael_V> BrandonW: Do you ever wonder why TI has all those mysterious ports and complicated outputs to them?
01:34 <+Michael_V> I mean, they designed the entire calculator themselves
01:34 <+Michael_V> I wouldn't put in all that junk
01:34 <+Michael_V> it seems unnecessary
01:34 < calc84> O_O
01:34 < calc84> link?
01:34 < BrandonW> The ports make sense.
01:34 <+Michael_V> not all of them
01:34 < BrandonW> It's all the USB ports that are garbage.
01:35 <+Michael_V> calc84: http://www.radicalsoft.org/michael/misc.zip in TI-83 Plus\Information
01:47 <+Michael_V> BrandonW: No one visits radicalsoft.org anymore
01:48 < BrandonW> Correct.
01:48 <+Michael_V> all of our members except you and I have vanished
01:48 <+Michael_V> well
01:49 <+Michael_V> Joshua is still on AIM
01:49 < BrandonW> He very rarely responds, I wouldn't even bother.
01:49 <+Michael_V> We should have a draft
01:49 <+Michael_V> and recall our members and impress them into programming service
01:50 <+Michael_V> oh wow
01:50 <+Michael_V> this could be a reason
01:50 <+Michael_V> our archives link is broken
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01:50 <+Michael_V> it says no programs for every calc model
01:50 <+Michael_V> how long has it been like this?
01:50 < BrandonW> I really don't know.
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01:51 < BrandonW> Have you ever managed to successfully repair a broken LCD ribbon cable from an 83+?
01:51 <+Michael_V> no
01:51 <+Michael_V> I've wrecked two calculators that way
01:51 <+Michael_V> You know it's kind of funny how we break more calculators than most people own
01:51 <+Michael_V> by several orders of magnitude :)
01:51 < BrandonW> I was given one today with that very problem, and I was thinking of attempting to fix it.
01:52 < BrandonW> Or just leave it alone (it does work, just can't see anything).
01:52 < bsparks> http://fatpita.net/?i=379
01:52 < BrandonW> I've wanted a calculator with that problem for a long time, for internet remote control.
01:52 < BrandonW> It would be a server, if you will.
01:52 <+Michael_V> that was the inspiration for CalcServer
01:52 <+Michael_V> I tried it out on one of mine with the broken screen in fact
01:53 < BrandonW> I've yet to try a screenshot request.
01:53 <+Michael_V> ever?
01:53 < BrandonW> On this calculator.
01:53 <+Michael_V> ah
01:53 < BrandonW> I just _implemented_ the screenshot request on OS2. :)
01:54 <+Michael_V> actually
01:54 <+Michael_V> I think I know the problem
01:54 <+Michael_V> the entire SQL database doesn't exist
01:54 <+Michael_V> I don't think we ever uploaded it on the newest server
01:54 <+Michael_V> oops
01:54 <+Michael_V> well hmm
01:54 <+Michael_V> our forum code seems to work
01:54 <+Michael_V> partly
01:54 <+Michael_V> it then breaks
01:54 <+Michael_V> probably PHP 6
01:54 < BrandonW> I would rather focus on getting Detached Solutions working again.
01:54 <+Michael_V> and using $HTTP_GET_VARS still
01:55 < BrandonW> We were young and stupid.
01:55 <+Michael_V> It is workin
01:55 <+Michael_V> *working
01:55 <+Michael_V> I have the password!
01:55 < BrandonW> Yes, but again, no one goes to it.
01:55 <+Michael_V> We can now log in again!
01:57 <+Michael_V> oh blah
01:57 <+Michael_V> I have to update all of the forum scripts
01:58 <+Michael_V> at least Radical Software has outlived the dot-com bubble
01:58 <+Michael_V> 11 years and coutning
01:58 <+Michael_V> *counting
01:58 <+Michael_V> the domain name for 9
01:59 <+Michael_V> the bad news is that in the end, SiCoDe will be remembered and we won't be
01:59 <+Michael_V> and every other group but us
01:59 <+Michael_V> because no one cares about task switching on the 83+
01:59  * Michael_V sobs for TSE
02:00 <+Michael_V> oh uh
02:00 <+Michael_V> *ugh
02:00 <+Michael_V> I'll just disable the forum for new users
02:00 <+Michael_V> I don't even want to do anything short of rewriting the code
02:01 <+Michael_V> which I don't want to do
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02:02 <+Michael_V> whoa
02:02 <+Michael_V> the radicalsoft.org database is still there (as it has to be)
02:04 < Tari> So now that I have an 89Ti, I can get to writing cool things..
02:04 <+Michael_V> flash apps?
02:05 < Tari> I was thinking an 83+ emulator
02:05 <+Michael_V> even better
02:05 <+Michael_V> that's very doable
02:05 <+Michael_V> it'd run quite well too
02:05 < Tari> it has enough memory, I could probably run a recompiler core even
02:05 <+Michael_V> I suppose the only problem is the size of the OS you have to store
02:06 <+Michael_V> though the calculator has enough space for that
02:06 < sir_lewk> http://www.cs.drexel.edu/~jlg95/stuff/googleads-fail.png <== wtf xD
02:06 <+Michael_V> you could do two options...full 83+ OS and then just partial support
02:06 < sir_lewk> hey hey Michael_V
02:06 <+Michael_V> where you support MirageOS or Ion programs and selected B_CALLs
02:06 <+Michael_V> _clrlcdfull, etc.
02:06 <+Michael_V> that games use
02:06 <+Michael_V> sir_lewk: hello
02:07 < sir_lewk> a full 83+ emulator would be slick on the 89Ti
02:07 < sir_lewk> I would love forever anyone that did that :)
02:07 <+Michael_V> The titanium has plenty of memory for it
02:07 < sir_lewk> yeah
02:08 <+Michael_V> I thought about doing an x86 emulator too
02:08 <+Michael_V> you know, the old DOS versions ran in 128 KB of conventional memory or so
02:08 < sir_lewk> oh goodness
02:08 < sir_lewk> freedos on a calc, that'd be slick
02:08 <+Michael_V> well I don't know about freedos
02:08 <+Michael_V> hmm
02:08 < sir_lewk> oh, is that heavier?
02:09 <+Michael_V> well
02:09 <+Michael_V> how much RAM does the titanium have?
02:09 <+Michael_V> I never paid much attention
02:09 <+Michael_V> I know the 89 had 188 KB
02:09 <+Michael_V> I didn't think they increased it
02:09 < Tari> yeah, still 188k
02:10 <+Michael_V> well that's not enough to do anything useful
02:10 < sir_lewk> mmhm, just more flash
02:10 <+Michael_V> you could get a really old version of MS-DOS to run
02:10 <+Michael_V> but no useful programs
02:10 < Tari> it only allows you to allocate 64k chunks of heap, too
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02:10 <+Michael_V> now if on the other hand, you could get 512 KB then you could run tons of classic DOS games
02:10 <+Michael_V> and because they'd be designed for 4.77 MHz 8088s or 10 MHz 286s, they'd run pretty well on a 89 Titanium too
02:10 < Tari> or just port them, y'know
02:11 <+Michael_V> emu8x was so much fun to write
02:11 <+Michael_V> even though it's pointless and no one uses it :)
02:12 <+Michael_V> emulation is awesome because you get to try every trick you can think of for speed
02:12 <+Michael_V> and really understand the system as after all, you are emulating it
02:12 <+Michael_V> programming the 82, 83, 85, and 86 hardware in software essentially for the emulated OS to interface with
02:13  * Michael_V gets very excited
02:14 < sir_lewk> yeah, that is slick stuff
02:14 <+Michael_V> I guess this must be what it's like to have mental problems
02:15 < sir_lewk> lol
02:16  * Michael_V just fixed the radicalsoft.org archives page
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02:18 < BrandonW> Yeah, Emu8x really is quite an accomplishment.
02:18 <+Michael_V> I really am sick in the head
02:18 <+Michael_V> I think back to how I sped up LCD writes and I pump my fist and scream "yes"
02:18 <+Michael_V> (silently)
02:19 < calc84> and you quite inspired me with that emu8x :D
02:19 < BrandonW> You should've seen me squeal like a little girl and run around when I got the 84+/SE boot code OS-receiving exploit working.
02:19 <+Michael_V> I can imagine
02:19 <+Michael_V> all too vividly I'm afraid
02:20 < BrandonW> That and the universal Flash unlock exploit.
02:20 <+Michael_V> The next step to Emu8x was supposed to be a 83+ emulator
02:20 < calc84> lol
02:20 <+Michael_V> a 16 KB flash app that of course read the ROM right off of your calculator
02:20 <+Michael_V> with full debugging abilities
02:20 <+Michael_V> then I was going to finish Jason Kovac's long-languishing TitanASM
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02:20 <+Michael_V> the on-calc assembler
02:20 <+Michael_V> and integrate them
02:20 < calc84> you should try to run your emulator with your emulator
02:20 <+Michael_V> so you could write, compile, and debug on the calc
02:20 <+Michael_V> it would have been absolutely awesome
02:20 <+Michael_V> alas
02:21 < BrandonW> That would've been the ultimate accomplishment with the oncalc assembler idea.
02:21 <+Michael_V> the problem was I figured out how to do it before I began
02:21 <+Michael_V> then all the motivation was gone once I knew how I'd do it
02:21 <+Michael_V> I should have started sooner
02:23 <+glk> I use a TI-89T
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02:24 <@Michael_V> I've only warned him about a million times
02:24 <@Michael_V> I don't understand
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02:26 <@Michael_V> only one of our links (DS) on the radicalsoft.org page still works
02:26 <@Michael_V> how sad
02:28 <@Michael_V> cuando pencil john mccain
02:29 < sir_lewk> who did what to who's cat?
02:30 <@Michael_V> nothing
02:30 <@Michael_V> I'm just babbling
02:30 <@Michael_V> I thought I heard something that sounded like "cuando pencil john mccain"
02:30 <@Michael_V> obviously not
02:31  * Michael_V is feeling bored and insane
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02:31 < bsparks> hmm
02:31 <@Michael_V> that one is always good for a laugh
02:32 < Tari> win :D
02:32 <@Michael_V> they sent a follow-up e-mail saying "dear sir, Please,give us good price., thanks/regards Molaei"
02:32 <@Michael_V> I think they were actually serious
02:36 < jr19> ruby island...
02:36 < jr19> that's interesting
02:37 <@Michael_V> it's a bizarre e-mail
02:37 <@Michael_V> it looks like a scam but why would they target calculators?
02:37 <@Michael_V> and then it seems like it might also be strangely legitimate
02:37 <@Michael_V> but you can't tell
02:37 < Tari> just ask for payment upfront
02:37 <@Michael_V> I actually seriously considered responding
02:37 < Tari> if they refuse, it's a scam
02:37 < jr19> yeah
02:37 <@Michael_V> I was going to take retail prices and add on 20% markup
02:38 < jr19> i looked it up and it looks like a real company sort of
02:38 <@Michael_V> and if they paid, just go out to the stores with large shopping carts :)
02:38 < jr19> they dont have a website though
02:38 < jr19> but i do see listings for it
02:38 <@Michael_V> I decided it wasn't worth replying
02:38 < jr19> "Importer and Buyer of Decorative Items based in Dubai, United Arab Emirates."
02:38 < calc84> but yeah... your Emu8x really inspired me for the emulations potential :D
02:38 < jr19> very decorative calculators
02:38 <@Michael_V> maybe they want my calculator posters :)
02:38 < jr19> paper weights i suppose?
02:38 <@Michael_V> calc84: good to hear
02:38 <@Michael_V> do other people here have calculator posters or am I in the rarity?
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02:40 < calc84> I have a TI-nSpire t-shirt!
02:40 <@Michael_V> ooh
02:40 <@Michael_V> where did you get it from?
02:41 < calc84> I got it with my nSpire
02:41 < calc84> in a large box
02:41 <@Michael_V> ah
02:41 < calc84> with a bunch of other junk
02:41 < calc84> I bet I have a poster...
02:41 <@Michael_V> well I had to ask TI for mine
02:41 <@Michael_V> then they sent them for free actually
02:41 <@Michael_V> I was surprised
02:41 <@Michael_V> I just asked where I could get them like the teachers had
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02:42 <@Michael_V> this was back in 2001 I think
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02:42 <@Michael_V> because I asked for an 83+ SE poster but they didn't have it yet
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02:43 <@Michael_V> or actually
02:43 <@Michael_V> no, this might have been 1999
02:43 <@Michael_V> and they didn't have an 83+
02:43 <@Michael_V> I don't remember
02:43 <@Michael_V> I think I would have wanted an 83+ though
02:43 <@Michael_V> instead I have an 86 and a 92+
02:43 <@Michael_V> they're awesome
02:44 <@Michael_V> I saw other people my age with posters of women in bikinis or other ridiculous things
02:44 <@Michael_V> how lame
02:44 < calc84> I got said nSpire and box for free :D
02:44 <@Michael_V> I had calculators
02:44 <@Michael_V> GRAPHING CALCULATORS
02:44 <@Michael_V> on my wall
02:44 < bsparks> You know, I only ever had 3 posters on my wall, my entire life
02:44 <@Michael_V> I had 2
02:44 <@Michael_V> an 86 and a 92+ :P
02:44 < Tari> There's a jolly roger on my wall..
02:44 <@Michael_V> I hate posters on the wall in general
02:45 < Tari> it's a little creepy, but makes up for it by being awesome
02:45 < bsparks> I had a BTTF movie poster signed by Christopher Lloyd, I had a 83+ poster I jacked from school, and I had a poster made out of an XKCD comic
02:45 <@Michael_V> 83+ poster yay
02:46 < bsparks> I wanted to get a projector and the overhead thing with the accompying 83+ and project it to scale over the screen and play some of my games
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02:46 <@efneTI92> [TheStorm] Yes rivereye, it is time to go fishing.
02:46 < calc84> hi The Storm
02:48 <@Michael_V> bsparks: viewscreen
02:48 < bsparks> Michael_V, right right, the word slipped my mind
02:49 <@Michael_V> I had an idea a while ago for using hooks to make a free viewscreen out of any calculator
02:49 <@Michael_V> it'd just display on the computer
02:49 <@Michael_V> send the screenshots along
02:49 <@Michael_V> but now that we can sign the OS...
02:49 <@Michael_V> we could modify it to send back screenshots at 'smart' intervals
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02:49 <@Michael_V> to a PC program
02:49 <@Michael_V> and undermine the viewscreen's cost
02:49 <@Michael_V> any calculator would be a viewscreen calculator presuming you could show a computer on a projector
02:49 <@Michael_V> which most schools can
02:50 < calc84> I have a calculator with one of those special ports
02:51 < calc84> make sure to make the software emulate grayscale ;)
02:52 < TheStorm> Michael_V, you could just write a program that uses ti's smartview protocol
02:52 <@Michael_V> that's for the 84+
02:52 < TheStorm> ahh  you want something that works with all calcs
02:53 <@Michael_V> hmm or
02:53 <@Michael_V> I think that works the other way
02:53 <@Michael_V> it just sends keys to an emulator on the PC
02:53 < TheStorm> Oh yeah I forgot
02:54 < calc84> apparently TI made some sort of subtle hardware change in the newer TI-84+'s, it seems
02:54 < TheStorm> they did?
02:54 < calc84> yes
02:54 < TheStorm> does datamath know about it?
02:55 < calc84> because TI-Boy isn't working on them
02:55 < calc84> or Realsound
02:55 <@Michael_V> datamath is so awesome...
02:55 <@Michael_V> I can't contemplating having that many graphing calculators
02:55 <@Michael_V> and other types of calculators
02:55 < i_c-Y> aaaaaah its Michael_V !!!
02:55 <@Michael_V> just calculators in general I mean
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02:56 < Tari> so I've got this $50 Amazon gift card
02:56 < Tari> and what am I spending it on?
02:56 < TheStorm> calc84 really thats weird
02:56 <@Michael_V> calculator?
02:56 < Tari> 5 pounds of gummi candy, Dr. Horrible, and a 1/100 scale Gundam model
02:56 <@Michael_V> no no no
02:56 <@Michael_V> buy a calculator
02:56 < calc84> also Emu8x according to this thread: http://www.detachedsolutions.com/forum/m/35967/#msg_35967
02:56 < i_c-Y> buy some textbooks for next smester.
02:57 < i_c-Y> i spend so much on textbooks :(
02:57 <@Michael_V> hmm
02:57 <@Michael_V> I think I spent $800 on textbooks this semester
02:57 <@Michael_V> I say think because all the bills haven't come in yet
02:57 < Tari> I've got a mess of money in da bank
02:57 < calc84> got any ideas about this Michael_V?
02:58 <@Michael_V> is he the only one?
02:58 < calc84> only one we know of with Emu8x
02:58 <@Michael_V> he could just have corrupted ROMs :)
02:58 < calc84> but there are quite a few with TI-Boy SE and Realsound
02:58 <@Michael_V> let's not overlook the obvious
02:58 < calc84> and all of the above execute code from the extra ram pages
02:58 <@Michael_V> well the extra RAM pages are used for USB at times
02:58 <@Michael_V> but there should be no USB communication while Emu8x is running
02:59 <@Michael_V> it's possible that something has changed
02:59 < calc84> I made a program to dump one of the ram pages I was using
02:59 < Spengo> gah
02:59 < Spengo> my "xchatlogs" folder is 2.4GB
02:59 < Spengo> D:
02:59 <@Michael_V> it works on my 84+ SE with 2.43
02:59 < Tari> bzip2, I choose you!
02:59 <@Michael_V> that's all I know
03:00 < calc84> and some of the bytes were zeroed out
03:00 < calc84> which should not have been
03:00 < calc84> and the exact same app has worked on my calculator and not on the bugged ones
03:01 < calc84> possibly TI made some sort of change in manufacturing after they produced the TI-nSpire
03:01 < calc84> though I forgot exactly when that was released
03:02 <@Michael_V> the thing is though, if it has the same OS (2.43) it'd be odd that it changes
03:02 < calc84> same OS and boot code in at least one case
03:02 < calc84> probably more
03:03 <@Michael_V> hmm
03:04 <@Michael_V> try outputting 0 to port 5Bh
03:04 <@Michael_V> see if that fixes it
03:04 < calc84> which port is that?
03:04 <@Michael_V> that should disable USB hardware caused interrupts
03:04 < calc84> USB interrupt?
03:04 < calc84> well, I plugged in a USB cable while it was running once on my calc
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03:04 < calc84> it froze due to repeatedly called, but I could still exit
03:05 < calc84> called interrupts*
03:05 < TheStorm> maybe they changed the USB hardware and it could be directly accessing the Memory?
03:05 < calc84> (the ON interrupt triggers the exit)
03:05 < calc84> O_o
03:06 < calc84> that would be interesting
03:06 < TheStorm> I mean that would explain the zeroed out memory and such
03:06 < calc84> and in both Realsound and TI-Boy, page 3 was the one being used
03:06 < TheStorm> but I would think they would need to update the OS to accommodate that
03:06 < calc84> and it was only a certain area of the page
03:06 <@Michael_V> it may just be more active hardware
03:07 <@Michael_V> the USB has always used parts of the extra RAM
03:07 < calc84> I moved the Nintendo bootcode somewhere else and that started to work fine
03:07 <@Michael_V> just not when actually being used
03:07 <@Michael_V> *just not when not being used
03:07 < calc84> but the games were still glitched because they used all the RAM
03:07 < calc84> but it was the USB code in the OS, yes?
03:07 < TheStorm> so yeah it must be the USB hardware, If you can disable it and I bet it fixes something
03:08 <@Michael_V> actually I'm not sure about that
03:08 <@Michael_V> it may have been the hardware
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03:08 < calc84> BrandonW should know whether it's in the OS or not :P
03:08 < calc84> most likely it is
03:08 <@Michael_V> I used to know
03:08 <@Michael_V> :(
03:09 < calc84> otherwise we wouldn't know that the USB stuff used page 3 I think
03:09 < TheStorm> so your thinking the hardware is directly accessing the memory and bypassing the OS
03:09 <@Michael_V> Dan did most of the USB port stuff...I worked on the USB protocol
03:09 < calc84> it might be - or it might be something completely different
03:09 < TheStorm> I'll brb I need to reboot into vista to reflash my Phone
03:09 < calc84> oh right!
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03:10 < calc84> I just remembered, I have access to the source code now
03:10 < calc84> so I could try using a different page
03:10 <@Michael_V> what do you mean?
03:10 < calc84> and see if that helps at all
03:10 <@Michael_V> so your calculator is one of the affected?
03:10 < calc84> when I thought of this, I was on vacation
03:10 < calc84> no
03:10 < calc84> I have 3, and it works on all of them
03:10 < calc84> they are all pretty old though
03:11 < calc84> 2007 is the newest
03:11 <@Michael_V> my 84+ SE was the earliest of course
03:11 <@Michael_V> just like my 83+ SE and my February 1999 83+
03:11 < calc84> :)
03:11 <@Michael_V> I'd try disabling USB interrupts and seeing if that does anything
03:12 <@Michael_V> or take the easy way and cut out the IM 1 altogether
03:12 < calc84> I got my first 84+SE in 2004
03:12 < calc84> I'm using IM 2
03:12 < calc84> I am fairly certain RealSound has the interrupts disabled though
03:12 <@Michael_V> without any jump to the TI routine?
03:12 < calc84> for the precise timing needed
03:12 < calc84> yes
03:12 <@Michael_V> when will realsound be released?
03:12 < calc84> no TI code is being executed (to my knowledge)
03:13 <@Michael_V> It sounded so neat with USB storage
03:13 <@Michael_V> but James never wanted to release it
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03:13 < calc84> it didn't work out, apparently
03:13 < BrandonW> Nonsense.
03:13 <@Michael_V> only to him!
03:13 < BrandonW> I have the code on my machine.
03:13 < BrandonW> He just doesn't want to release it.
03:13 < calc84> you have it?!
03:13 < BrandonW> Yeah.
03:13 < BrandonW> He's just being a jerk about it.
03:14 < BrandonW> Write to him, e-mail him, whatever if you want it.
03:14 < BrandonW> I'm not going to release it.
03:14 < BrandonW> But I assure you, there's nothing wrong with it.
03:14 <@Michael_V> if it's the hardware, you're going to have to play around with the USB ports
03:14 < BrandonW> Anything you hear to that effect is BS.
03:14 <@Michael_V> and see what you can disable
03:14 < calc84> http://www.revsoft.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=18881#18881
03:14 < BrandonW> The hardware is not manipulating the extra RAM pages, that's nonsense.
03:14 <@Michael_V> BrandonW: well if he's not running any interrupt code...
03:15 < BrandonW> That same post says the USB adapter is obscure.
03:15 < BrandonW> That's ridiculous.
03:15 < calc84> it has to be SOME hardware difference
03:15 < calc84> no doubt about it
03:15 < BrandonW> I refuse to believe the RAM pages just change as a result of using the USB hardware.
03:15 <@Michael_V> or everyone with new 84+ SEs is lying
03:15 <@Michael_V> you never know
03:16 <@Michael_V> I'd want a calculator that has the problem in front of me so I could personally investigate
03:16 < calc84> my mom pointed out a sale on 84+SE's tonight :P
03:16 < BrandonW> Maybe it's some sort of stability or timing issue, who knows.
03:16 <@Michael_V> time to buy another
03:16 < calc84> I'm wondering if I should get one...
03:16 < BrandonW> Keep in mind we still don't know about ports 0Eh and 0Fh.
03:16 <@Michael_V> absolutely
03:16 < calc84> it's $99
03:16 <@Michael_V> absolutely
03:16 < calc84> really?
03:16 <@Michael_V> you can never have too many calculators
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03:16 <@Michael_V> I had 14 once
03:16 < calc84> :D
03:16 < BrandonW> I have 26.
03:16 <@Michael_V> see?
03:16 < calc84> I have too many of the same type though :(
03:17 <@Michael_V> until you have a double digit graphing calculator inventory, you're not a real programmer
03:17 <@Michael_V> :P
03:17 < calc84> I wish I had an 83+
03:17 <@Michael_V> calc84: that's okay...we all do
03:17 <@Michael_V> you need duplicates
03:17 <@Michael_V> for linking and all sorts of things
03:17 < BrandonW> I have 4 73s.
03:17 < BrandonW> I think that's the most of a single model.
03:17 <@Michael_V> or so you can brick 4 and continue working, like BrandonW
03:17 < BrandonW> Exactly.
03:17 < calc84> :D
03:18 < calc84> okay, but seriously. Realsound 2 actually worked?
03:18 < calc84> it wasn't "absurdly quiet"?
03:18 < BrandonW> I have no idea what he was calling it, I'm just talking about the code that reads both audio and video from a USB flash drive and plays them simultaneously.
03:18 < calc84> video too? O_O
03:18 <@Michael_V> yes
03:18 < BrandonW> He's just bitching because you have to have a USB adapter and some sort of powered speakers.
03:18 <@Michael_V> I begged him to release it a while ago
03:18 <@Michael_V> "
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03:18 <@efneTI92> [TheStorm] Yes rivereye, it is time to go fishing.
03:19 < calc84> we could always go Super Mario 2.0 on him
03:19 < BrandonW> There's no reason not to release it, he's just being difficult.
03:19 <@Michael_V> I don't have a portable mp3 player
03:19 <@Michael_V> I'd use realsound 2.0
03:19 < calc84> neither do I
03:19 < BrandonW> I'll give it another couple of years and then I'll release it myself. His ego is no reason to deprive the community of something so important.
03:19 < BrandonW> That's how I feel about Bluetooth.
03:20 < calc84> JimE fell off the face of the planet
03:20 < BrandonW> We shouldn't be withholding anything.
03:20 <@Michael_V> I withheld things for far too long
03:20 < BrandonW> He considers calculators beneath him, he went to DS stuff and who knows after that.
03:20 <@Michael_V> like the undocumented bcalls
03:21 < BrandonW> I really never cared for his attitude.
03:21 < calc84> what would happen if we released it?
03:21 <@Michael_V> I would consider the Nintendo DS beneath me
03:21 <@Michael_V> calculators > all
03:21 < calc84> ^^
03:21 <@Michael_V> you don't program for Nintendos in assembly
03:21 < BrandonW> Some people do.
03:21 < calc84> unless it's the Game Boy
03:21 <@Michael_V> some people program for the PC in assembly too :)
03:22 < BrandonW> If I could just figure out that stupid buffer bug, I would release the Bluetooth chat thing.
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03:22 < calc84> What would happen if you accidentally sent Realsound 2 to me?
03:22 < calc84> >_>
03:22 < calc84> <_<
03:23 < BrandonW> As much as I think what he's doing is stupid, I'm respecting his wishes and not releasing it.
03:23 < calc84> I would be a happy fellow
03:23 < BrandonW> I'm not even sure where it is, to be honest. But it's somewhere.
03:23 < calc84> listening to music on mah calculator
03:23 < calc84> and why is the volume lower? more power being supplied to the USB port instead?
03:24 < BrandonW> I really paid no attention to RealSound, I have no idea what version I have if anything or what the complaints or bugs are.
03:24 < BrandonW> I just know I saw it with my own eyes, respectable video and audio output.
03:24 < calc84> I meant
03:24 < calc84> JimE says it is lower
03:24 < BrandonW> Lower than normal?
03:24 < calc84> and that's a horrible excuse :P
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03:24 < BrandonW> I really have no idea.
03:25 < calc84> "absurdly low"
03:25 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v noah_] by efneTI92
03:25 < BrandonW> There's no such thing as absurdly low, you can boost it.
03:25 < BrandonW> That post is downright silly.
03:25 < calc84> he said so in that post I linked to
03:25 < BrandonW> Don't take it too seriously.
03:25 < calc84> yeah :P
03:25 < calc84> maybe it was the same volume as the previous one
03:25 < calc84> but he considers that absurdly low to begin with
03:26  * Michael_V just realized what he could do in his programming retirement
03:27 <@Michael_V> I should write and release BASIC programs under a pen name
03:27 < BrandonW> If you want to completely disable USB interrupts, even in IM 1/2, output zero to port 5Bh. That kills it.
03:27 <@Michael_V> that would be hilarious
03:27 <@Michael_V> BrandonW: ah good that's what I suggested too
03:28 < calc84> do the TI's have any NMI's?
03:28 < BrandonW> No.
03:28 < calc84> okay then :P
03:28 < BrandonW> Your calculator will almost certainly hang if you don't handle all the interrupts in a very particular way.
03:28 < BrandonW> What way that is, I don't know yet.
03:29 < BrandonW> There's no clearing of any flags or flushing out any pending interrupts.
03:29 <@Michael_V> what do you mean?
03:29 < BrandonW> At least not in an obvious way that I can see.
03:29 < calc84> you mean USB?
03:29 < BrandonW> Yes, the USB interrupts.
03:30 < calc84> but USB interrupts occuring on my calculator only froze the program, not messed with its output
03:30 < BrandonW> IM 1 or 2?
03:30 < calc84> 2
03:30 < calc84> where I wan't handling it
03:30 < calc84> wasn't*
03:31 < calc84> so I think it just never got acknowledged
03:31 < BrandonW> And it didn't hang when inserting a cable?
03:31 < calc84> that's what I did
03:31 < calc84> and it froze
03:31 < BrandonW> Did it unfreeze after a while or when you unplugged it?
03:31 < calc84> but it still accepted the ON interrupt to exit
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03:31 <@efneTI92> [Randomist] The pycho has entered the channel.  Sound the alarms.
03:31 < calc84> nope
03:32 <@Michael_V> emu8x doesn't use interrupts so it shouldn't be affected
03:32 < BrandonW> How do you know it exited? What did it do after ON?
03:32 <@Michael_V> except when in the pause menu
03:32 <@Michael_V> it just does ei, di
03:32 <@Michael_V> with TI-OS im 1
03:32 < calc84> it quit the game
03:32 < calc84> which is what it was supposed to do upon ON interrupt
03:32 < BrandonW> So it unfroze at that point? The TI-OS was working normally?
03:32 < calc84> yes
03:33 < BrandonW> I'll be honest with you, I have no idea how USB works even after all this time.
03:33 < BrandonW> It's magic.
03:33 < calc84> I think the "freezing" was just repeated calling of my interrupt
03:33 <@Michael_V> that does make sense actually
03:33 <@Michael_V> that emu8x crashes after he was paused
03:33 <@Michael_V> but not really
03:33 <@Michael_V> the TI-OS should have handled them while running in the pause _getkey
03:34 < calc84> Spencer thinks we should release RealSound 2
03:34 <@Michael_V> I guess the question is if the OS is overwriting the page
03:34 < BrandonW> Spencer didn't write it.
03:34 < BrandonW> He gave it to me with the explicit instructions to do nothing with it.
03:34 < calc84> [22:39] calc84maniac: JimE is silly
03:34 < calc84> [22:40] sumlaetusego: he's also probably dead
03:34 < calc84> [22:41] calc84maniac: does that mean we can release Realsound 2?
03:34 < calc84> [22:43] sumlaetusego: yes
03:35 < calc84> [22:43] sumlaetusego: yes it does
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03:35 <@efneTI92> [Netham45] Narf!
03:35 < calc84> hi Netham45
03:35 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Netham45] by efneTI92
03:35 <+Netham45> Hello.
03:35 < BrandonW> Didn't you say once that blocks of memory were being replaced with zeroes?
03:36 < calc84> yes
03:36 < calc84> not throughout the page though
03:36 < BrandonW> Contiguous?
03:36 < calc84> from what I could tell, it was near the beginning of the page
03:36 < calc84> in patches
03:36 < calc84> some of the code was intact
03:37 < calc84> other parts were replaces with 0's
03:37 < calc84> replaced*
03:37 < calc84> I am certain that the second half (where all my emulation code is) was not touched
03:37 < calc84> from the page dump I was given
03:37 < BrandonW> If you are 100% confident that TI's code never once gets control, I blame it on some sort of timing or other hardware issue. The controller would not just modify bytes from the extra RAM pages.
03:38 <+Netham45> argh
03:38 <+Netham45> bluetooth sucks
03:38 < BrandonW> I could see it failing to read certain blocks of memory.
03:38 < BrandonW> And returning zeroes instead.
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03:38 < BrandonW> Or writing it.
03:38 < BrandonW> Do multiple dumps and confirm that the exact same locations are getting zeroes every time.
03:38 < BrandonW> And then tell me what the ranges are, I'll dig around in the OS.
03:39 < calc84> Note that RealSound also crashes almost instantly
03:39 < BrandonW> And I'm sure it goes without saying, but you've tried other pages besides 3, right?
03:39 < BrandonW> If that's the one you're using.
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03:39 < calc84> and it uses no precise timing or anything other than clock cycle counts, I think
03:39 < calc84> I have considered that
03:39 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v glk] by SnowCrash
03:39 < calc84> I should try it
03:39 < BrandonW> Also use page 81h, back up pages 80h and 81h to the extra RAM pages and use that instead.
03:40 < BrandonW> And swap them back at the end of the program.
03:40 < calc84> when I thought of it, I was away from my source code
03:40 < calc84> I'm already using page $81
03:40 <+Netham45> Hey, BrandonW, do you know any decent bluetooth drivers for windows?
03:40 < BrandonW> Swap it with something else.
03:40 < calc84> can't
03:40 < BrandonW> I surely do not, sorry.
03:40 < calc84> I'm using port $28
03:40 <+Netham45> damn, k.
03:41 < BrandonW> You know, I get the distinct feeling that my cousin's girlfriend is hitting on me.
03:41 < BrandonW> It's creeping me out.
03:41 <@Michael_V> why?
03:41 <@Michael_V> it's not your cousin
03:42 < BrandonW> That would be worse on many levels.
03:42 < BrandonW> But still.
03:42 <@Michael_V> the only thing I can say is put your slidecases in a safe first
03:42 <@Michael_V> please
03:42 <@Michael_V> I hope you learned your lesson
03:42 < TheStorm> lol
03:42 < BrandonW> No one comes near my slidecases.
03:42 < calc84> I think we must needs release Realsound 2
03:42 < BrandonW> I don't think I even have RealSound 2.
03:43 <@Michael_V> maybe I'll message James
03:43 <@Michael_V> again
03:43 < BrandonW> Like I said, it's the USB flash drive code.
03:43 < calc84> okay, fine
03:43 < calc84> wait...
03:43 < calc84> that is realsound 2
03:43 < calc84> what else would realsound 2 be?
03:43 < BrandonW> I really have no idea, I haven't followed the development of that program AT ALL.
03:43 < BrandonW> I don't know what 1 or 2 is.
03:43 <@Michael_V> 1 was released
03:44 <@Michael_V> it read from normal storage
03:44 < BrandonW> I'm pretty sure what I'm talking about is testing code embedded in msd8x.
03:44 < BrandonW> It wasn't even a separate program.
03:44 < BrandonW> I'm just saying, the logic and the algorithms are there, we have it.
03:44 <@Michael_V> Last Seen: 1st July 2008 - 10:26 AM 
03:44 <@Michael_V> oh that's not good
03:45 <@Michael_V> I didn't realize it was that long
03:45 < calc84> add a converter program on the PC side and a splash screen, and we have Realsound 2
03:45 <@Michael_V> I think after a year you should be declared dead for calculator purposes
03:45 < BrandonW> I think I died once then.
03:45 <@Michael_V> we should give him a funeral with a TI-81 as a stand-in
03:45 <@Michael_V> and then move on
03:46 <@Michael_V> BrandonW: nonsense
03:46 <@Michael_V> a year of not showing up anywhere I mean
03:47 < BrandonW> I hate TigerDirect now. My motherboard is backordered and they sent the wrong video card to me.
03:47 < BrandonW> There's nothing I hate more than having a lot of PC parts just sitting there and nothing to do with them.
03:47 <@Michael_V> the last time I used tigerdirect was in 2000
03:47 < BrandonW> Freshly-bought ones, I mean.
03:47 <@Michael_V> there are so many other choices nowadays
03:48 <@Michael_V> newegg or zipzoomfly
03:48 < BrandonW> Newegg charges tax.
03:48 <@Michael_V> or if you live just a few miles from FRY'S ELECTRONICS
03:48 < ports> i bought a watch on newegg
03:48  * Michael_V drools
03:48 <@Michael_V> (I do live just a few miles away from one)
03:48 < ports> BrandonW, oh.. newegg has a warehouse in TN... tigerdirect doesnt i think
03:48 < BrandonW> I doubt you would be the man you are today if not for that.
03:48 < BrandonW> I refuse to use Newegg because they charge tax.
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03:49 <@Michael_V> when Joey Gannon was in Arizona we met up and toured the Fry's Electronics store like people tour museums or zoos
03:49 < calc84> http://www.revsoft.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=19159#19159
03:49 <@Michael_V> it was awesome
03:49 < ports> BrandonW, that's fine.. i dont use Tigerdirect in Illinois because they charge tax... but Tigerdirect and Frys.com should work for you
03:49 <@Michael_V> going up and down all of the aisles in nerdy glory
03:49 < calc84> He stated he is done with TI
03:49 < ports> Michael_V, yeah the Frys in Chicagoland is great
03:49 < BrandonW> Yeah, because it's beneath him, I said this.
03:49 < calc84> so he shouldn't care anymore
03:50 < ports> eh
03:50 < BrandonW> I have no doubt he doesn't care anymore.
03:50 < calc84> JimE: "I really should just upload my entire z80 folder. I truly don't think I'll work on that stuff again. But the source should be on group if not then spencer should have a bit laying somewhere."
03:50 < ports> i came in late.. didnt see you had backordered parts on TD
03:50 < ports> BrandonW, have you checked amazon? they sometimes have good deals on pc parts
03:50 < calc84> so he is essentially giving permission to use his old source
03:50 < BrandonW> Okay, if I find it, it's yours.
03:51 < calc84> yayy
03:51  * Michael_V has a feeling that he's going to be reading about this case in his torts textbook
03:51 < TheStorm> calc84==King of ti Software BrandonW ==King of TI Hacking :P
03:51 < BrandonW> I also ordered some stuff from 3btech.net but they use awful USPS, and their tracking amounts to "we were told we got a package" and then "it's delivered."
03:51 < ports> BrandonW, lol.. the its delivered shows up usually 8 hours after you receive it
03:52 <@Michael_V> I have a million reasons why I hate the USPS
03:52 < BrandonW> I'm not too upset, at least it's not DHL.
03:52 <@Michael_V> ranging from outright lies to their money back guarantees are scams to just sheer incompetence
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03:53 < ports> BrandonW, DHL = USPS
03:53 < BrandonW> That's ridiculous.
03:53 <@Michael_V> DHL is gone anyway
03:53 <@Michael_V> they left the domestic shipping market
03:54 <@Michael_V> the only thing that remains is the mail expediting where they hand off to USPS
03:54 < BrandonW> http://www.dhl-usa.com/home/home.asp
03:54 < ports> it looks like USPS took over the DHL warehouses... they use DHL resources to deliver packages to regions, and then USPS to ship from distribution center to customer
03:54 < BrandonW> If DHL has a hand in it, I'll have nothing to do with it.
03:54 < ports> Michael_V, yep
03:54 <@Michael_V> ports: no...DHL, UPS, and FedEx all run consolidation services
03:54 <@Michael_V> they charge less than the USPS by moving shipments in bulk for savings rather than for time
03:54 < ports> Michael_V, ah. i didnt know they shared the consolidation
03:54 <@Michael_V> then they hand the packages off to the USPS near the final delivery point
03:55 < ports> exactly
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03:55 <@Michael_V> so the USPS charges them like $1 because it's basically only from the local post office to the house
03:55 <@Michael_V> the total cost is less than USPS all the way
03:55  * _Auron_ sighs
03:55 <@_Auron_> I'm so broke.
03:55 <@Michael_V> buy a calculator
03:55 <@Michael_V> you'll be broke and happy
03:55 <@Michael_V> that's better than just broke
03:56 < BrandonW> I agree.
03:56 < ports> heh
03:56 < BrandonW> I speak from experience.
03:56 < calc84> true dat
03:56 <@Michael_V> hmm as of July 17, I've shipped at least 1,002 packages
03:56 <@Michael_V> neato
03:56  * Michael_V feels impressive
03:56 < calc84> I'm going to try using page 7 instead of page 3
03:56 <@Michael_V> I put them all on a google map :)
03:57 < BrandonW> Did we ever really determine what the deal is with RAM execution protection? Is there something in the hardware preventing it on even pages?
03:57 < calc84> that shouldn't have any ill effects unless someone tries to run Pokemon
03:57 < calc84> I believe it was
03:57 < calc84> oh wait
03:57 < calc84> what else would it be? :P
03:57 <@Michael_V> BrandonW: I don't remember
03:57 < calc84> can't be software
03:57 < BrandonW> Something determined by one of the ports.
03:57 < calc84> therefore it is hardware
03:57 <@Michael_V> I never investigated it in sufficient depth
03:57 < BrandonW> Right, well, I mean, is it configurable or not.
03:58 <@Michael_V> I think it is
03:58 < BrandonW> I know it is on the 83+.
03:58 < BrandonW> But the others I don't know.
03:58 <@Michael_V> I never really wanted to run things on the other pages anyway
03:58 < calc84> it is on the 83+? really?
03:59 < calc84> oh, and there's always this: http://wikiti.brandonw.net/index.php?title=Talk:83Plus:Ports:21
03:59 < calc84> but that's odd pages
03:59 < BrandonW> I'm not convinced that's what it is, however writing to port 21h most certainly does screw with the execution protection.
04:00 < BrandonW> Which is why the boot code sets it up after writing to port 21h.
04:00 < calc84> explain "sets it up"
04:00 < BrandonW> Sets Flash upper and lower bounds, etc.
04:00 < calc84> ah.
04:00 < BrandonW> If you don't, you can't execute anything.
04:00 < BrandonW> I know because I did it.
04:01 < BrandonW> In order to convert an 84+SE to an 84+.
04:01 < BrandonW> It wouldn't work until I did all that.
04:01 <@Michael_V> we should convert an 84+ SE into an 86 next
04:01 <@Michael_V> the LCD driver will do 128 pixels
04:01 < calc84> :D
04:01 < BrandonW> Holy crap, that's genius.
04:01 < calc84> oh wait
04:01 < calc84> no
04:01 < BrandonW> The thought never once occurred to me.
04:01 < calc84> 120 pixels
04:02 < calc84> I thought it was 128 as well
04:02 < calc84> but no.
04:02 < BrandonW> Well, actuallly...
04:02 <@Michael_V> BrandonW: I hope you're joking because I was :)
04:02 < BrandonW> You're no better off than Emu8x.
04:02 < BrandonW> I had one of those 5-second "I'm really onto something" moments.
04:02 <@Michael_V> I used to have tons of those
04:02 <@Michael_V> 99% of them go nowhere :)
04:03 < BrandonW> Precisely.
04:03 < calc84> oh yeah, I have those all the time
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04:03 < calc84> it actually seemed to work out with my 8-level grayscale tilemapper though :)
04:04 <@Michael_V> oooh
04:04 <@Michael_V> we should get USB hubs working on the 84+
04:04 < BrandonW> Absolutely not.
04:04 < BrandonW> It's a real mess.
04:04 < ports> http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v12/62/84/14803464/n14803464_30068393_5137.jpg  - beating women is not ok!
04:04 <@Michael_V> but then we can have an app that takes two attached storage devices or ipods
04:04 <@Michael_V> and clones one from the other!
04:05 <@Michael_V> we can call the app Fal-Tor-Pan!
04:05 <@Michael_V> like Star Trek III!
04:05 <@Michael_V> and it will show a Vulcan salute on the calculator screen
04:05 <@Michael_V> while it does this
04:05 < BrandonW> I don't think anyone's seen Star Trek III enough times to know what that is.
04:05 <@Michael_V> the ceremony with the vulcan priestess...
04:05 <@Michael_V> she transfers Spock's katra back into his body
04:05 <@Michael_V> from McCoy
04:05 < BrandonW> Sure, it was more just a crack at how III sucked.
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04:06 < bsparks> Michael_V, do you ever plan on getting a wife?
04:06 <@Michael_V> depends
04:06 <@Michael_V> I'm open to the idea but consider my chances low :P
04:06 < bsparks> at least you're realistic
04:07 < calc84> yet a bit idealistic when it comes to calculators :D
04:07 <@Michael_V> I could always start dating women in the asylums if I get desperate
04:07 < calc84> o_o
04:08 < Merthsoft> hi
04:08 <@Michael_V> I could meet a nice one, we'll get married, she'll be the next Sylvia Plath and make lots of money
04:08 <@Michael_V> then she'll commit suicide
04:08 <@Michael_V> and I get the estate
04:08  * Michael_V is deleting Windows 3.0 and Word for Windows 1.1
04:08 <@Michael_V> anyone want them?
04:08 <@Michael_V> I don't need to keep them
04:08 <@Michael_V> I have them saved in zip
04:08 <@Michael_V> they'll run on an HP 200LX handheld PC :P
04:10 < TheStorm> Michael_V, I'll take them
04:10 <@Michael_V> will DCC work to you?
04:10 < TheStorm> I have a Laptop that would love them
04:11 < TheStorm> It should
04:11 <@Michael_V> I might have to let it through my firewall if it doesn't work
04:12 < TheStorm> there its working
04:12 <@Michael_V> what kind of laptop?
04:13 <@Michael_V> 3.1 runs on a 286
04:13 <@Michael_V> 3.0 is the last version that runs on a 8086
04:13 < TheStorm> Cannon NoteJet 486c
04:13 <@Michael_V> oh
04:13 <@Michael_V> you should run 3.1
04:13 <@Michael_V> that's an awesome laptop
04:13 < TheStorm> hmm ok
04:13 <@Michael_V> I always wanted one
04:13 <@Michael_V> well
04:13 <@Michael_V> is that the one that prints?
04:13 < TheStorm> I still have no way to do anything with it atm
04:13 < TheStorm> yes
04:13  * Michael_V drools
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04:14 < calc84> Chip's Challenge was the awesomesauce
04:14 < calc84> I remember playing that on the old 3.1
04:14 < calc84> when I was a wee lad
04:14 < TheStorm> But I need to get a 2.5" to 3.5" adapter for the HDD so I can back it up before I do anything
04:14 < BrandonW> calc84, when your RAM pages go wonky, what's the CPU speed?
04:14 <@Michael_V> that last file includes the 3.1 device driver development kit :)
04:15 < calc84> 15MHz
04:15 < calc84> don't know about 6MHz
04:15 < BrandonW> I highly recommend you crank up the delays using ports 2Ah-2Ch and 2Eh.
04:15 < TheStorm> calc84, I have the Windows Entertanment packs 1-4 and Bob's House 
04:15 < BrandonW> And see if it helps.
04:15 < calc84> well, first I should release a patch running in 6MHz to see if it fixes things
04:16 < calc84> albeit running way slower
04:16 < TheStorm> BrandonW, I don't know why you disliked WinMo 6.5, it seems pretty nice to me
04:16 < calc84> but I'll wait until people try my patch which uses page 7 instead of page 3
04:16 < BrandonW> TheStorm, I saw you earlier in logs saying I was right about it being garbage.
04:16 < TheStorm> though the default home screen is kinda crappy
04:16 < BrandonW> Don't put on a show for these people.
04:16 < BrandonW> Admit it.
04:17 < BrandonW> Given all the memory access hardware in the 84+/SE, I really think that's your problem, calc84.
04:17 < TheStorm> I thought it was garbage at first but once I chaneged one or two of the defaults it grew on me
04:18 < BrandonW> Traitor.
04:18 < TheStorm> the PIE is so much nicer
04:19 < TheStorm> still no tabbs but the UI is no longer crap
04:19 < Merthsoft> ok facebook, when I block someone from my news feed, that also means I don't want to see what they become fans of or comment on on the little "highlights" panel
04:19 < Merthsoft> DUH
04:19 < TheStorm> BrandonW, did you use PPCKitchen to try it out on your device?
04:20 <@Michael_V> Merthsoft: why are they your friend then?
04:20 < BrandonW> I use someone's shitty package of a ROM, which is going to die soon.
04:20 <@Michael_V> it seems to me that people have too many friends on facebook :)
04:20 < BrandonW> Facebook is a waste of time.
04:20 < j-b-r> BrandonW>	Facebook is a waste of time. <<< _1
04:20 < j-b-r> +1
04:20 < bsparks> a fantastic waste of time
04:20 < j-b-r> That is
04:20 < j-b-r> Yeah, I agree totally
04:21 < j-b-r> Much better to waste time on irc
04:21 < calc84> I mainly use it for chat
04:21 < j-b-r> or... waste time doing anything else, really
04:21 < calc84> heck, I don't even log in most of the time
04:21 < Merthsoft> Michael_V: she's my ex girlfriend, it would be a pretty dick move to remove her
04:21 < calc84> I just add it to my chat client
04:21 <@Michael_V> why?
04:21 <@Michael_V> emphasis on "ex"
04:21 < Merthsoft> she's still a friend
04:21 < BrandonW> See, you're obligated to forever keep people on there.
04:21 <@Michael_V> not me
04:21 < BrandonW> And you only cause chaos, confusion, and anger by friending someone.
04:22 < TheStorm> gah teh newest version of the pidgin facebook chat plugin fails hardcore
04:22 <@Michael_V> I discard people like dead AAA batteries from my calculators
04:22 < BrandonW> Or defriending someone.
04:22 <@Michael_V> I've wished that you could reject friend request
04:22 < Merthsoft> besides, i still wanna, you know, look at her profile sometimes
04:22 <@Michael_V> I don't want to ignore
04:22 <@Michael_V> *requests
04:22 <@Michael_V> I want to reject them
04:22 <@Michael_V> harshly
04:22 < BrandonW> If Jim's gone, I can finally fix all his WikiTI typos.
04:22 < BrandonW> It hurts me in the head to see "ram".
04:22 <@Michael_V> when some girl from my high school who I never spoke 3 words to tries to add me as a friend
04:23 <@Michael_V> and she has 951 other "friends"
04:24 < Merthsoft> also, while i'm talking about personal shit no one else wants to hear about
04:24 < Merthsoft> why did it take half the summer for the summer to get good :/
04:24 < millinao> lol, facebook
04:24 < Tari> yarly, Merthsoft 
04:24 < millinao> merthsoft: same thing happened to me
04:24 < bsparks> Merthsoft, for you maybe
04:24 < Tari> I've finally settled down and started getting things done every day
04:25 < bsparks> aside from Sat/Sun, I've had a shitty summer
04:25 < Tari> but now school returns in three weeks
04:25 < Merthsoft> bsparks: that's waht i'm saying
04:25 < Merthsoft> it's just now getting good
04:25 < BrandonW> I have no concept of summer anymore.
04:25 < bsparks> for you maybe >.>
04:25 < BrandonW> No school or absence of it to remind me.
04:25 < bsparks> right now, it looks like it's gonna be shitty through the end of the year
04:25 < Merthsoft> :(
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04:26 < BrandonW> http://wikiti.brandonw.net/index.php?title=Category:83Plus:Ports:By_Address:Protected&oldid=3468 I don't know who added the last block of sample code, but that's genius.
04:26 < Merthsoft> that was me
04:27 < BrandonW> Right.
04:27 < calc84> yeah, it's pretty nice
04:27 < Merthsoft> i'm pretty smart, you knoq
04:27 < Merthsoft> knoq
04:27 < Merthsoft> know
04:27 < BrandonW> I can see that.
04:27 < calc84> haha, killed the moment
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04:28 < Tari> page history says Ben added that
04:28 < Merthsoft> ben who?
04:29 < bsparks> ...
04:29 < millinao> lolwut
04:29 < millinao> http://wikiti.brandonw.net/index.php?title=%C3%86%C2%A2%E2%80%A6%C3%A6%C2%8D%C2%B7%C3%A9%C2%AB%CB%9C%C3%A6%C2%B8%E2%80%A6%C3%A5%E2%80%A6%C2%A8%C3%A6%C5%BD%C2%A5%C3%A5%C2%8F%C2%A3MCP78%C3%A5%C2%A4%C2%A7%C3%A6%C2%9D%C2%BF%C3%A4%C2%BB%E2%80%A6%C3%A5%E2%80%9D%C2%AE499%C3%A5%E2%80%A6%C6%92
04:29 < millinao> i clicked on random page
04:29 < bsparks> I'm gonna guess, ben... BEN
04:29 < Merthsoft> ben moody
04:29 < BrandonW> It just has an IP for the last edit.
04:29 < TheStorm> benryves
04:29 < TheStorm> or moody
04:29 < bsparks> Moody
04:29 < Merthsoft> bsparks: there are two bens
04:29 < Tari> wait..
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04:29 < Tari> no, I'm dumb
04:30 < TheStorm> leave it to MS to make a cab installer that doesn't conform to their own standards :/
04:30 < Tari> 130.215.239.90
04:30 < BrandonW> Damn this wiki spam...
04:30 < TheStorm> I wanted to make an OEM package for MS's ebook reader but I guess I'll jsut set it to auto install
04:31 < j-b-r> Heh, want to hear a funny microsoft-incompatability-with-itself story?
04:31 < j-b-r> Remember photosynth?
04:31 < j-b-r> Well when it first came out, I was an IE 7 user
04:31 < j-b-r> And I wanted to use it
04:31 < j-b-r> ANd it didn't work properly with IE 7
04:31 < bsparks> lolie7
04:31 < j-b-r> (this was before IE 8 I believe)
04:31 < j-b-r> So I asked microsoft reps on the help site what to do to make it work
04:32 < j-b-r> And they said "Why are you still using IE? Use firefox 3"
04:32 < j-b-r> So I did
04:32 < Tari> ah, photosynth!
04:32 < j-b-r> These are MICROSOFT EMPLOYEES
04:32 < j-b-r> It was awesome
04:32 < Tari> I wanted to mess with that, but had forgotten what it was called!
04:32 < BrandonW> Link or it didn't happen.
04:32 < j-b-r> I beleive I have links, actually
04:35 <@Michael_V> I love how TI winds up completely embarrassed
04:35 <@Michael_V> with everything
04:35 <@Michael_V> from our early hacking attempts to this
04:35 <@Michael_V> everything they do is completely and utterly broken
04:35 <@Michael_V> with more people working on it and more devotion than they can ever have
04:35 <@Michael_V> they don't stand a chance
04:36 <@Michael_V> all these ports are reverse engineered...certificate pages...
04:36 <@Michael_V> everything
04:36 <@Michael_V> when you think about it, it must be quite bad for morale there :)
04:36 < BrandonW> Or in the case of the Nspire, we can sit back and laugh.
04:36 < calc84> do they know about this yet?
04:36 <@Michael_V> know about cracking the key?
04:36 < calc84> (the OS signing)
04:36 <@Michael_V> it's on the front page of ticalc.org
04:36 <@Michael_V> how could they not?
04:36 < calc84> *shrug*
04:36 <@Michael_V> they do read ticalc.org
04:36 < calc84> okay :P
04:36 <@Michael_V> I've received e-mails
04:37 < calc84> really?
04:37 < Tari> It's great how nobody is buying the Nspire. :D
04:37 < BrandonW> So they know my name...
04:37 <@Michael_V> yes
04:37 < calc84> such as?
04:37 < BrandonW> It would bring me great joy to know they curse my name while sitting around in some break room.
04:37 <@Michael_V> well they complained about the voyage 400
04:37 <@Michael_V> eventually
04:37 <@Michael_V> the guy said he enjoyed it but some did not
04:38 <@Michael_V> and basically asked us to tell people it was fake
04:38 <@Michael_V> apparently they didn't like getting phone calls
04:38 < calc84> oh, I thought you meant about this latest article
04:38 <@Michael_V> no
04:38 <@Michael_V> in the past
04:38 <@E-J> morning
04:38 < calc84> but yeah, Voyage 400 was priceless :D
04:38 < BrandonW> I wonder how they felt about the clack functionality.
04:38 <+Netham45> holy hell, these headphones sound really good.
04:38 < calc84> ?
04:38 < calc84> brb
04:39 < Randomist> Netham45:  </random>  :P
04:39 <+Netham45> Randomist, I've been fighting with a bluetooth adaptor for about 3 hours, trying to get my bluetooth headphones to work.
04:39 < BrandonW> I quite enjoy my Bluetooth headphones.
04:39 < BrandonW> What are yours?
04:40 <+Netham45> Previously, I'd only used them with my cell phone, which isn't capable of producing the best sounds.
04:40 <@Michael_V> BrandonW has been fighting with a bluetooth adapter for a long time
04:40 <+Netham45> Samsung, I think their model is SGH-100
04:41 <+Netham45> Nope, SBH-500
04:41 < BrandonW> I can't really find anything on that.
04:41 < bsparks> I love old EGMs
04:41 < calc84> I bet if we cracked the nSpire and got some good software running on it, their sales would rise
04:41  * TheStorm has an HTC Touch/Vogue
04:41 < BrandonW> Nspire, not nSpire.
04:41 < Randomist> calc84:  Cracked the what?
04:41 < BrandonW> How many times do I have to say it?
04:41 < BrandonW> NO ONE says nSpire. NO ONE.
04:41 < calc84> Nspire... whatever
04:41 < BrandonW> Not even TI.
04:41 < calc84> I do! :D
04:41 < BrandonW> And they've said "TI-84" before.
04:41 <+Netham45> BrandonW, I swear that TI themselves said 'nSpire' at at least one point.
04:42 < BrandonW> Show me.
04:42 < BrandonW> Screenshot, anything.
04:42 <+Netham45> I believe it was in a pre-release doc.
04:42 < BrandonW> Even the slightest hint of proof.
04:42 < BrandonW> Need I remind you about the 84+SE emulator?
04:42 < calc84> anyway, if we do that, they should thank us :P
04:42 < BrandonW> http://brandonw.net/nspire.php
04:43 < TheStorm> they should have jsut made the thing more open
04:43 < BrandonW> Anyway, I use Creative SE2300 Bluetooth headphones.
04:43 < calc84> if nothing else, we need to write a proper TI-84+SE emulator once we hack it
04:43 < TheStorm> even if it had been like the 86 where they only release basic docs it would be better for their sales
04:43 < BrandonW> "once we hack it"? What's left?
04:43 < BrandonW> There are at least two good 84+/SE emulators.
04:44 <+Netham45> wait, is the Nspire cracked?
04:44 < calc84> once we hack the Nspire
04:44 < BrandonW> No, the Nspire is not cracked, hacked, or anything else.
04:44 < Randomist> http://www.ecalc.com/calculator/store/ti-nspire-cas-graphing-calculator/
04:45 < calc84> I'm sure we can do a better job than TI when it comes to emulation
04:45 < BrandonW> I'm actually quite happy with the shittiness of the 84+SE emulator.
04:45 < calc84> ...are you joking?
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04:45 < BrandonW> No.
04:45 < BrandonW> There are exploits we can take advantage of.
04:45 < BrandonW> You can write some neato stuff on it.
04:46 < mtgrss111> Nikky owes me a million dollars.
04:46 < calc84> it needs undocumented opcodes
04:46 < mtgrss111> Where is he >:[
04:46 < BrandonW> Don't use stupid undocumented opcodes and it's all good.
04:46 < Randomist> Slow LCD refresh is slow.
04:46 < BrandonW> I've always been against that.
04:46 < calc84> and the ability to run in true 15MHz
04:46 < BrandonW> What's not true about it?
04:46 < calc84> or maybe faster
04:46 < calc84> it's slower from what I can tell
04:47 < BrandonW> I spoke to the guy who worked on the 84+SE emulator.
04:47 < calc84> really?
04:48 < BrandonW> Yes.
04:48 <+Netham45> wait, it was only 1 person?
04:48 <+Netham45> lol
04:48 < BrandonW> At the time I spoke to him.
04:48 < calc84> Netham: That's what I was thinking XD
04:48 <+Netham45> BrandonW, did he know who you were?
04:48 < BrandonW> Keep in mind, one man wrote the core of the TI-OS.
04:48 < BrandonW> Pat Milheron.
04:48 < BrandonW> If he did, he didn't let on.
04:48 < calc84> o_o
04:48 < calc84> I pity him
04:48 <+Netham45> heh
04:49 <+Netham45> an os should never be written by 1 person
04:49 < calc84> keep that in mind, Brandon ;)
04:49 <+Netham45> regardless of the scale, you miss out on so many optimizations another pair of eyes can provide.
04:49 < BrandonW> Oh it wasn't, the 84+/SE OS is many pieces of shit glued together by many different people.
04:49 < BrandonW> I just mean the core.
04:49 <+Netham45> Did more than 1 person work on any 1 part?
04:50 < calc84> well, I guess he did well with the core
04:50 <+Netham45> if not, it's no better off than 1 person writing it
04:50 < BrandonW> I don't know who worked on the more specialized parts like security/MD5/RSA, USB, etc.
04:50 < calc84> it took us this long to crack it :P
04:50 < BrandonW> But they were morons, I can tell you that much.
04:50 < BrandonW> You know the 73 and 83+ boot code have MD5 bugs, right?
04:50 < calc84> XD
04:51 <+Netham45> I heard about that
04:51 <+Netham45> what level of access would the bugs grant?
04:51 <@Michael_V> this is the difference between programming in ASM for your job and really understanding ASM
04:51 < BrandonW> Absolutely nothing.
04:51 < calc84> is that why they made specialized MD5 hardware for the SE?
04:51 < BrandonW> Because it's slow, yes.
04:51 < TheStorm> is that why apps work and other don't?
04:52 < Tari> it (the md5 bug) just causes things to fail validation in some cases when it shouldn't
04:52 < TheStorm> ^
04:52 < TheStorm> yeah thats what I meant
04:52 < bsparks> is that why my 83+SE could never make toast?
04:52 < BrandonW> It's a good thing, you want validation to take longer on the 73.
04:53 < BrandonW> More time to pull the battery.
04:53 < TheStorm> lol
04:53 < calc84> ^^
04:54 < BrandonW> It's embarrassing some of the easy z80 optimizations that could've been done.
04:54 < calc84> yeah
04:54 < BrandonW> No sane person should ever do "ld a,0" unless you really really really need to preserve flags.
04:54 < TheStorm> true dat
04:54 < calc84> like the routine they had for "ld a,b \ or a"
04:54 < Tari> I've used `ld a,0` in one/a couple cases in LIFOS (but I needed to save some flags)
04:54 < BrandonW> That's legitimate, it's quicker to call that and see if a variable is in the archive.
04:54 < calc84> three bytes to call the routine
04:55 < calc84> two bytes to put in the actual code
04:55 < BrandonW> Well not quicker, but takes up less space.
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04:55 < calc84> um
04:55 < calc84> no
04:55 < BrandonW> um
04:55 < BrandonW> yes
04:55 < calc84> two bytes if you put in the literal code
04:55 < calc84> three bytes if you call the routine
04:56 < BrandonW> If you gain nothing, then at least you have readability and a central place for that logic.
04:56 < Tari> I need a name for the 83+ emulator for the 89[Ti]
04:56 < BrandonW> As long as you don't lose anything.
04:56 < calc84> use a macro, I say
04:56 < BrandonW> They're fans of macros, that's for sure.
04:56 < BrandonW> For Flash unlocking/relocking and saving/restoring interrupts.
04:57 < BrandonW> As well as localize hooks.
04:57 <+Netham45> brb, rebooting.
04:57 < BrandonW> And other stuff.
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04:57 < Tari> Anyone have name ideas?
04:57 < Tari> meh, codename Aineko for now
04:57 <@Michael_V> BrandonW: I forget the app that was written in C
04:57 <@Michael_V> what was that again?
04:57 <@Michael_V> cellsheet?
04:57 < calc84> oh wow
04:57 < BrandonW> That was done in C?
04:57 < calc84> that was incredibly bloated and slow
04:57 < BrandonW> That explains some things.
04:57 <@Michael_V> I don't remember but I saw obviously C-generated code in one
04:57 <@Michael_V> I think it might have been cellsheet
04:58 <@Michael_V> the instructions were ridiculously bloated
04:58 < calc84> and it came in many different languages
04:58 <@Michael_V> you could tell it was translated from C
04:58 < Tari> it probably was CellSheet
04:58 < calc84> wayyyyy too much space
04:58 < TheStorm> Tari, TI8xEMU?
04:58 < BrandonW> It was way too big.
04:58 < Tari> since they have the same app on the 68ks
04:58 < Merthsoft> i thought we couldn't do C
04:58 <@Michael_V> you can but you don't want to :)
04:58 < calc84> we can't do very good C
04:58 < BrandonW> Michael, do you have any 8XQ files?
04:58 <@Michael_V> unless you want to be like cellsheet
04:58 <@Michael_V> yes I have a few I think
04:58 < Tari> it's doable, but hideous, slow, and bloated (see sdcc)
04:58 <@Michael_V> but hold on
04:58 < BrandonW> I would be interested in all of them.
04:58 <@Michael_V> I'm in the midst of murdering someone here
04:59 < BrandonW> For testing.
04:59 < Merthsoft> what's 8xq?
04:59 < BrandonW> An 83+ certificate file.
04:59 <@Michael_V> I was sent the old, well-scribbled edition of a textbook
04:59 <@Michael_V> from half.com
04:59 <@Michael_V> which was $123.99 and advertised as brand new 7th edition
05:00 <@Michael_V> salkhfdals;ksal;fkjsa;jkfas
05:00 < calc84> was that the body?
05:00 <@Michael_V> what kind of person tries to scam someone with a textbook on Civil Procedure?
05:00 <@Michael_V> aka suing people
05:00 < Merthsoft> lolol
05:00 < calc84> that's hilarious
05:00 <@Michael_V> not when it's my money :)
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05:01 < calc84> hi Netham45
05:01 <+Netham45> Hello.
05:01 <@Michael_V> see the first thing I do is add him/her to my ebay block list
05:01 < calc84> hmm... I think I need to head out now
05:01 <@Michael_V> that way I'm protected as a seller from him buying an item of mine just to leave negative feedback in retaliation
05:02  * Michael_V feels intelligent
05:02 <@Nikky> Barrett: What'll it cost me?
05:02 <@Michael_V> ok
05:02 <@Michael_V> BrandonW
05:02 <@Michael_V> do you want key files too?
05:02 < BrandonW> Yes.
05:02 < calc84> 8-level grayscale is just awesome, btw :D
05:03 <@Michael_V> hmm
05:03 <@Michael_V> I guess few other people have 8xq files?
05:03 <@Michael_V> I have 3
05:03 <@Nikky> I sure am glad that Michael_V guy is gone.
05:03 < calc84> where did you get them? O_o
05:03 <@Michael_V> well back in the day you had to buy the SDK
05:03 <@Nikky> calc84: A super secret vault.
05:03 <@Michael_V> and you got 5 key signings
05:03 <@Michael_V> and the way you tested apps on your calculator was that TI generated a key jsut for it
05:03 <@Michael_V> *just for it
05:03 <@Michael_V> so I could sign with my developer key
05:03 <@Michael_V> but not distribute
05:04 < calc84> Ooh! Where can I find it? I'm sure explosives would work well
05:04 <@Nikky> Greenland
05:04 < BrandonW> 8XQs also used to be embedded in 8XK files.
05:04 < BrandonW> When you bought a Flash application, it would come with that.
05:04 < BrandonW> For your calc ID.
05:04 <@Michael_V> hmm no
05:04 <@Michael_V> I have an 8xq from a flash application
05:04 < BrandonW> I have several 8XKs with them in it that say otherwise.
05:04 <@Michael_V> that I "purchased" (free)
05:04 <@Michael_V> well
05:04 <@Michael_V> they may have come with 8xks
05:05 <@Michael_V> but I mean I have an 8xq from the ti app store
05:05 < BrandonW> Did you ever buy an application?
05:05 < BrandonW> Not "purchased".
05:05 <@Michael_V> yes in a sense
05:05 <@Michael_V> oh
05:05 <@Michael_V> I don't think so
05:05 <@Michael_V> I don't really remember where this 8xq came from
05:06 <@Michael_V> how about 89Q?
05:06 < calc84> By the time I came along, most of them were free :P
05:06 <@Michael_V> do you want those?
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05:06 <@Michael_V> ah now here's a problem
05:06 <@Michael_V> I can't find one of the key files
05:06 <@Michael_V> grr
05:07 < calc84> rrg
05:07 < BrandonW> Couldn't hurt.
05:07 < Merthsoft> bed
05:07 <@Michael_V> but that's okay
05:07 < BrandonW> I'm more interested in the 8XQ files than the key files, but I do want both.
05:07 <@Michael_V> I'm prepared
05:07  * Michael_V pulls his backup CDs off of the shelf
05:07 <@Michael_V> here is 83+, January 2002
05:07 <@Michael_V> we'll try this one
05:08 <@Michael_V> MASTER OF ORGANIZATION
05:08 <@Michael_V> who lost his key :P
05:08 <@Michael_V> *ahem*
05:08 < mtgrss111> yo
05:08 <@Michael_V> oh
05:09 <@Michael_V> I'm an idiot
05:09 <@Michael_V> it was added to my key
05:09 <@Michael_V> so I could sign it once for both calculators
05:09 <@Michael_V> asdif;jsalfkdjal;sfjkas;kfjd;asfa
05:09  * Michael_V thinks he's losing his mind
05:09 < BrandonW> I'm also interested in any and all certificate backups, if you come across them.
05:09 < BrandonW> I'm considering putting up an "upload your certificate here in the name of research" site.
05:09 <@Michael_V> what are you looking at them for?
05:10 < BrandonW> I want to see how updates are done in many different situations.
05:10 < BrandonW> The OS code which does that is very confusing.
05:10 <@Michael_V> hmm
05:10 <@Michael_V> what extension are certificate backups?
05:10 <@Michael_V> I don't think I made any
05:10 <@E-J> Michael_V: i think you lost your mind years ago :)
05:11 < BrandonW> They're not standard.
05:11 < BrandonW> BINs, 8XVs, whatever you have them in.
05:11 < TheStorm> Michael_V, he made a program which dumps it to an APPVAR
05:11 < BrandonW> If you ever made any.
05:11 <@Michael_V> no
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05:11 < Tari> C question: if I have char *ptr, and do `*ptr++` does that increment the pointer or the memory value?
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05:11 <@E-J> pointer
05:12 <@E-J> imo
05:12 < BrandonW> I thought it was fact, not opinion. :)
05:12 <@Michael_V> brandon@radicalsoft.org?
05:12 < BrandonW> brandonlw@gmail.com
05:12 <@Michael_V> traitor
05:12 <@E-J> i haven't programmed with c for some time
05:12 < BrandonW> Me neither, but wouldn't it be the value?
05:13 <@Michael_V> sent
05:13 < BrandonW> And ptr++ would be the pointer.
05:13 <@E-J> i always mixed those 2
05:14 < Andy_J> I think it would be the memory value
05:14 <@Michael_V> see, this is why you should stick to Z80 ASM
05:14 <@Michael_V> these so-called higher level languages are confusing
05:14 < Andy_J> ptr is the pointer, *ptr is the value
05:14 < Tari> I can't program a 68k in z80
05:14 < Andy_J> ptr=0 will likely result in a segfault right
05:14 <@Michael_V> okay, 68000 ASM then
05:14 < Andy_J> (when you next use it)
05:14 < Tari> it's a question of operater precendence
05:14 < Tari> *operator
05:15 < Andy_J> I tought ++ and -- were at the bottom end
05:15 < Tari> ah, there we go
05:15 < Tari> & and * have highest precedence
05:15 < Andy_J> makese sense
05:15 < BrandonW> Michael, thank you, sir.
05:15 < Tari> same as unary minus
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05:16 < Tari> so *(ptr++) should get the value and post-increment the pointer
05:16 <@Michael_V> BrandonW: Tell me if you discover anything amazing
05:17 <@Michael_V> like my keys held the secret of OS cracking all along and I never realized it :P
05:17 < Andy_J> *ptr; ptr++
05:17 < Andy_J> is MUCH easier to read
05:17 < Andy_J> and any self-respecting software engineer would use that
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05:18 < BrandonW> Considering the fact that we can break keys in a reasonable amount of time, we really should be looking into 8XQ files and how they work. This is the *right* and *safe* way to do certificate updates, so if it's possible for us to use it, I think we should.
05:18 <@Michael_V> BrandonW: The two 8xqs of the earliest date are for the same calc
05:18 <@Michael_V> the one from 2000 and the February 2001 one
05:18 <@Michael_V> the one from May 2001 is for my 83+ SE
05:19 <@Michael_V> so cert.8xq..8xq and ecaf68d.8xq are for my 83+
05:19 <@Michael_V> 80c683f is for my 83+ SE
05:20 <@Michael_V> but 80c683f and ecaf68d both accept apps signed with 2EF04.key
05:20 <@Michael_V> should be interesting :)
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05:21 < BrandonW> You know, this is why I originally wrote IOHook.
05:21 < BrandonW> To study the link between calculator and PC during certificate updates.
05:21 <@Michael_V> ah
05:22 <@Michael_V> who has certificates anymore though really?
05:22 <@Michael_V> I think they've been completely ignored for years
05:22 <@Michael_V> in terms of your upload your certificate idea
05:22 < BrandonW> I mean this could be used instead of Free83P.
05:23 <@Michael_V> I understand
05:23 < BrandonW> No scary overwrite-whatever-you-had programs.
05:23 <@Michael_V> I mean for gathering 8xqs for study
05:23 <@Michael_V> does anyone else have them nowadays?
05:23 < BrandonW> Oh, no, I meant certificate dumps. To study people's revision history, if you will.
05:24 < BrandonW> For example, what happens if you already have a certification group (0300h)?
05:24 <@Michael_V> oh
05:24 < BrandonW> And you send another update?
05:24 < BrandonW> I really can't say.
05:24 < BrandonW> So that's why.
05:25 < BrandonW> Like that "Cert. Revision #" number, I have no idea when that gets updated.
05:25 < BrandonW> Or even if it does.
05:25 < BrandonW> Things like that.
05:25 < BrandonW> So much is unknown.
05:25 <@Michael_V> it does
05:25 <@Michael_V> I remember it changing
05:25 < BrandonW> I know it changes, but I mean if it actually increments or what.
05:25 <@Michael_V> too bad I don't remember what it was before
05:26 <@Michael_V> I think it did increent
05:26 <@Michael_V> *increment
05:26 <@Michael_V> but not necessarily by 1
05:27 < BrandonW> I remember seeing something like "#54" on a legitimate 83+.
05:27 < BrandonW> That..._might_ be valid if it's incremented by 1, I don't know.
05:27 <@Michael_V> I can't recall any numbers
05:27 < BrandonW> But I doubt it.
05:29 < BrandonW> I remember thinking "wow, that's a huge number...did I really do 54 significant things?"
05:30 < BrandonW> (before I knew what "significant things" could mean)
05:31 < BrandonW> Once I realized what I might be doing, I'd already lost my original certificate. :)
05:31 < BrandonW> I have a gozillion backups scattered over several hard drives.
05:31 < BrandonW> No idea what goes to what.
05:31 <+Netham45> Anyone know why the stereo part of my bluetooth headphones would operate perfectly, but the mono, and microphone both fail to operate?
05:32 < BrandonW> Sadly I traded my original 83+ for my current 84+SE.
05:32 < BrandonW> So that I could develop msd8x, actually.
05:32 < BrandonW> So I can't really regret it.
05:34 < BrandonW> I think I actually do have that 83+'s certificate backup.
05:35 < BrandonW> Is it wrong I have its calc ID memorized?
05:35 <@Michael_V> not at all
05:35 <+Netham45> Put it on another 83+, and boom, you have your original calculator.
05:36  * Michael_V thinks we should take Netham45's DNA and put it on another person and see if boom, we have the original Netham45
05:36 <@Michael_V> how can you be so heartless?
05:36 <+Netham45> Why the hell would YOU want to clone me?
05:36 <@Michael_V> this is a calculator here
05:36 < BrandonW> That sounds like every other generic experiment gone horrifically wrong.
05:36 <@Michael_V> I don't
05:36 <@Michael_V> but you can't just restore a certificate and pretend it's the same calculator
05:36 <@Michael_V> calculators are unique
05:36 <@Michael_V> they have their own flavor...
05:37 <@Michael_V> their own LCD spot despite being stored in a cool, dry file cabinet for years
05:37 <@Michael_V> definitely a defect
05:37 < BrandonW> My 83 had this little diagonal knick above the VARS key. A girl took it. It makes me sad.
05:37 < bsparks> google voice makes you feel like you are at command central for your phone, making sure you know damn sure what calls and texts go in and out
05:37 <@Michael_V> I put away my original 83+ and out of nowhere, that dark spot appeared
05:37 <@Michael_V> that is oh so common
05:37 < BrandonW> Your 73 has a dark spot if I recall correctly.
05:37 < BrandonW> This 84+SE also has a dark spot.
05:38 < j-b-r> I have google voice now
05:38 <@Nikky> WHOOHOO
05:38 < j-b-r> I am really cool for that reason
05:38 <@Nikky> YOU ARE AWERSOME
05:38 < j-b-r> Yes, I am
05:38 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v j-b-r] by Nikky
05:38 <+j-b-r> woohoo
05:38 <@Nikky> YOU HAVE TCPA VOICE TOO
05:38 < BrandonW> http://brandonw.net/calcstuff/73.wmv I think this is yours.
05:38  * Michael_V feels like he's given up a child for adoption
05:38 <+j-b-r> Now set the channel +m and we can talk and none of these guys can
05:39 <@Michael_V> yes, that looks like him
05:39 <@Michael_V> I'd recognize him anywhere
05:39 <@Nikky> Well, you have Michael_V 
05:39 <+j-b-r> ohyeah
05:39 <@Michael_V> how is he?
05:39 <@Michael_V> are you treating him well?
05:39 <+Netham45> Creeps.
05:39 < BrandonW> He's good.
05:39 < BrandonW> I think he's back to his old 73 self.
05:40 <@Michael_V> good
05:40 <+Netham45> argh
05:40 <+Netham45> why does bluetooth suck so much...
05:40 < BrandonW> You think I should write something to convert an 83+ to a 73?
05:40 < BrandonW> Would anyone in the world care?
05:40 <@Michael_V> no
05:40 <@Michael_V> no
05:40 <@Michael_V> well, care, maybe
05:41 <@Michael_V> but no one would want to
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05:41 <@Michael_V> use it
05:41 < sir_lewk> I wore my 86 to physics class the other day with one of the slidecase holsters that you made Michael_V and BrandonW sent to me
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05:41 <@Michael_V> really!
05:41 < sir_lewk> got a compliment from my prof! :D
05:41 <@Michael_V> that's awesome
05:41 <@Michael_V> which one was it?
05:41 <@Michael_V> the one with the clip or the one with the glued clip and cloth?
05:41 < sir_lewk> the one with the cloth hook
05:41 <@Michael_V> ah
05:41 <@Michael_V> it's actually very handy
05:42 < sir_lewk> it really is
05:42 < sir_lewk> frees up my pockets
05:42 <@Michael_V> indeed
05:42 <@Michael_V> you can walk all around doing a lab inside, outside, whatever
05:42 <@Michael_V> and when it's calculation time, bam
05:42 < sir_lewk> :D
05:44 < BrandonW> To really do it right, it'd have to be as elaborate as Chameleon.
05:44 < BrandonW> Replacing boot code routines and the like.
05:44 <@Nikky> nerds
05:45 <@Michael_V> the calculator hip holster is called the CH^2 :)
05:45 < Tari> oh, win
05:45 <@Michael_V> feel free to engrave that on the outside of it
05:45 < Tari> the emulated register file is an excellent use of a union
05:45 < sir_lewk> slick
05:46 <@Michael_V> I remember wearing mine to chemistry class
05:46 <@Michael_V> those were the days
05:46 < Tari> each register pair can be accesed either as two 8-bit values or one 16-bit
05:46 <@Michael_V> when I wanted to see how my foot temperature was throughout the day
05:46 <@Michael_V> so I put the original CBL in my cargo pants pocket
05:46 <@Michael_V> and had the temperature probe cord running down my leg into my shoe
05:46 < sir_lewk> lol
05:46 < BrandonW> I have that CBL, you know. Thanks for forever ruining it for me.
05:46 <@Michael_V> underneath my foot
05:47 <@Michael_V> BrandonW: I cleaned the probe afterwards
05:47 < BrandonW> It's not the same.
05:47 <@Nikky> I bet you did.
05:47 <@Michael_V> unfortunately one of the CBL buttons accidentally got pressed at some point
05:47 <@Michael_V> at the end of the day, I discovered the logging had reset
05:47 < sir_lewk> :/
05:47 < sir_lewk> I used the CBL a few times in school, never got to play with them that much though
05:48 < BrandonW> I wish I had a CBR.
05:48 <@Michael_V> I have the CBL 2 now
05:48 < BrandonW> I just don't want to pay the money, though.
05:48 < BrandonW> So do I.
05:48 <@Michael_V> it's very neat
05:48 < BrandonW> We really ought to finish LabSys.
05:48 <@Michael_V> I actually used it recently
05:48 <@Michael_V> I found the Student Radiation Monitor probe (a geiger counter) on ebay
05:48 < BrandonW> You can use it for external storage.
05:48 < BrandonW> It's actually extremely useful.
05:48 < BrandonW> And it doesn't validate any firmware update you send it.
05:48 < BrandonW> I wish we could take avantage of that.
05:49 <@Michael_V> send it a firmware to play morse code with the beeper
05:49 < TheStorm> My old High School has tons of LabPros
05:49 <@Michael_V> the labpros are even nicer
05:49 <@Michael_V> 2 more bits of resolution I think
05:50 <@Michael_V> on the ADC
05:51 < sir_lewk> oh, labpros I got to play around with a bit too
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05:53 < BrandonW> I'd really like that USB ViewScreen adapter, too.
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05:53 <@efneTI92> [patrick_] The TI-85 shall reign supreme, always and forever
05:53 < BrandonW> To test with the OS.
05:54 < BrandonW> I'm still not really sure how the calculator sends screen contents to it.
05:56 < Tari> oh, that's a great hack
05:56 < Tari> union BC { struct r8 { char B; char C; } unsigned int r16; }
05:57 < sir_lewk> yay unions!
05:57 < sir_lewk> I can't remember the last time I've actually seen a union used
05:57 < Tari> yarly
05:58 < Tari> I learned what they are, but couldn't think of any situation they'd really be useful
05:58 < Tari> in this case, it's a terrible hack
05:58 < Tari> for performance reasons, I'm treating the register file as an array in some situations
05:58 < Tari> (for things like 8-bit loads)
05:58 < Tari> even though it's a struct
05:58 < sir_lewk> bitfields are the other cool thing
05:59 < sir_lewk> I always forget about them
05:59 < sir_lewk> totally cool though
05:59 <+Netham45> Holy fuck, bluetooth is such a horrible protocol...
05:59 < Tari> I really need to pick up a copy of K&R
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06:00 < sir_lewk> it's the best tech book I ever bought/read
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06:00 <+Netham45> I really need to pick up a brick and smash it through the window of whatever fuckwad designed Bluetooth.
06:00 < BrandonW> Yes, Bluetooth is pretty screwy.
06:00 < sir_lewk> got my copy for ~$30 at borders
06:00 < BrandonW> Try reading the Blue8x source.
06:00 < BrandonW> Imagine that crap implemented in z80 assembly.
06:01 <+Netham45> heh
06:01 < Tari> haha
06:01 <+Netham45> I just want my mic to work on my headset... =/
06:01 < Tari> search amazon for 'k&r c', get nothing useful
06:01 < Tari> but it's the first result for just 'c'
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06:02 <@efneTI92> [Randomist] The pycho has entered the channel.  Sound the alarms.
06:03 < sir_lewk> lol
06:05 < Tari> oh, that's not cool
06:05 < Tari> in some cases 16-bit register 4 is AF, and in others is SP
06:05 < Tari> *others it's
06:05 < millinao> 'sup sir_lewk
06:05 < Tari> AF is used more often for that, so it gets that position
06:06 < sir_lewk> not much millinao, you?
06:06 < millinao> got back from da beach
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06:06 < sir_lewk> nice
06:06 < millinao> it was 75 the entire time, it was great
06:07 < sir_lewk> my family went to the beach last week but I had class :/
06:07 < millinao> screw class
06:07 < millinao> BEACH
06:07  * Randomist has only been to a beach one time in his life span.
06:07 < millinao> lol, wut
06:08 < millinao> where do you live
06:08 < Randomist> Lubbock/Levelland.
06:08 < millinao> oh, that would do it
06:09 < Randomist> But I was at some beach once when I was younger somewhere.  I did not like that, because the dude my mom was going out with kept dunking my head under the water.
06:10 < millinao> I guarantee you there was some oxygen-related damage involved
06:10 < sir_lewk> lol
06:10 < millinao> :P
06:10 < sir_lewk> I love chillin at the beach, the water and sand is meh but the general atmosphere is cool
06:10 < BrandonW> That explains so much.
06:11 < Randomist> I still remember being in the car after that, vomiting beach water.  >.>
06:11 < Randomist> Ugh.
06:11 < sir_lewk> my family/extended family rents a house on the beach in NC for a week every year
06:11 < TheStorm> lol
06:11 < sir_lewk> you're not supposed to drink saltwater :P
06:12 < Tari> man, writing C makes me feel like a DARK WIZARD
06:12 < millinao> it was great, me and my two mates made a crappy small bonfire and by the end of the night we had around 15 or 20 people crowding around a huge bonfire
06:13 < BrandonW> Moreso than assembly?
06:13 < Tari> yeah, just because I'm less familiar with C
06:13 < BrandonW> ENOUGH TO BE DANGEROUS
06:14 < Tari> so things like 'signed char ofs = *(iPtr--)' seem really awesome
06:14  * Randomist 
06:14  * Netham45  
06:14 < Tari> actually, 68k assembly probably has the same feeling
06:14 < Tari> because I could do that line of C in one instruction
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06:15 < sir_lewk> madness
06:15 < Randomist> I "C" what you did there.
06:15 < Tari> ...
06:16 < millinao> ...
06:16 < TheStorm> shankshankshankshankshankshankshankshankshankshankshankshankshankshankshank
06:16 < sir_lewk> you guys are madmen
06:17 < sir_lewk> certifiable madmen :D
06:17  * Randomist goes to play around in LMMS more.
06:18  * sir_lewk hacks around on his XMMS2 client.
06:18 < millinao> is lmms a good alternative to logic pro, etc?
06:18 < Randomist> ...Fruity Loops, yes.
06:19 < Randomist> (It even reads Fruity Loop projects if you have it installed.)
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06:26 < sir_lewk> I did not know about stdint.h
06:26 < sir_lewk> neato
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06:44 < Barrett> this verizon .002 dollars guy messes up at one point in this recording
06:45 < BrandonW> You are always behind on the times.
06:45 < millinao> that was so 2008
06:46 < BrandonW> Maybe even before that.
06:46 < BrandonW> USPS tracking is a joke.
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06:55 < millinao> http://vimeo.com/4041788
06:55 < millinao> that is cool as shit
06:58 < Tari> oh, sweet
06:58 < BrandonW> I would think shit is typically warm.
06:58 <+j-b-r> Except that has nothing to do with the actual movements of the strings
06:58 <+j-b-r> It is jsut the camera scanning through the lines
06:59 <+j-b-r> Or maybe that isn't how cameras work...
06:59 <+j-b-r> But, if it _were_ then that would be what is going on.
06:59 < Tari> it's an artifact of the framerate
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06:59 < Tari> the strings really do that
06:59 < millinao> tari's right
06:59 <+j-b-r> Mmm... Ok, if you say so
07:00 < Tari> it's kinda like how wheels on cars look like they're going backwards at certain speeds
07:00 <+j-b-r> yeah, I understand what you are suggesting
07:00 <+j-b-r> I just thought that the strings moved back and forth more completely
07:00 <+j-b-r> rather than forming patterns like that
07:00 < Tari> it forms a standing wave
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07:01 < millinao> strings' movements are rather complicated
07:01 < Tari> ..iirc
07:01 <+j-b-r> I guess the best way to tell would be to look at a still shot of it taken with a reliable camera
07:01 <+j-b-r> But I'll believe you guys on this
07:01 <+j-b-r> Sounds like you know what you're talking about
07:02 < millinao> the way you bow a string can change the patterns too, which can accentuate certain harmonics and such
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07:08 < Tari> woo
07:08 < Tari> finished writing _npX0Z0
07:09 < Tari> that's 'interpret non-prefixed, when bits 0-2 and 6-7 are reset'
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07:13 <@efneTI92> [Netham45] Narf!
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07:16 < tev> Finally. Stupid ISP
07:17 <@E-J> change it
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07:33 < BrandonW> I used to not care for Jessica Alba.
07:33 < BrandonW> Now I just want to snuggle her.
07:37 < tr1p1ea> what has turned the table for you?
07:38 < BrandonW> Nothing in particular.
07:38 < BrandonW> Maybe Fantastic Four, now that I think about it.
07:38 < BrandonW> That or that Into the Blue she was in.
07:38 < BrandonW> Or Sin City...
07:38 < BrandonW> You know what? Pretty much everything.
07:38 < BrandonW> I just didn't like that Dark Angel.
07:38 < tr1p1ea> :)
07:39 < tr1p1ea> i agree with your stance on dark angel
07:39 < BrandonW> I just don't like her I-just-got-out-of-the-shower look.
07:39 < BrandonW> Which was in Dark Angel a lot.
07:39 < BrandonW> I like the girl-next-door look.
07:41 < millinao> Am I the only one who cannot find any celebrity attractive?
07:41 < BrandonW> Yes.
07:41 < millinao> Damn.
07:41 < BrandonW> I can't stand anything remotely goth-like.
07:42 < millinao> I can't either
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07:43 < millinao> honestly the most attractive person to me physically is the most average, run-of-the-mill person possible
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07:44 < BrandonW> I agree.
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07:44 < BrandonW> But celebrities can look like that, too.
07:45 < BrandonW> Like when they play average, run-of-the-mill people.
07:45 <+Netham45> blah
07:45 <+Netham45> fucking dealextreme bluetooth adaptor
07:46 <+Netham45> broke not 6 hours after I got it
07:46 <+Netham45> but, I guess it's my fault. I did plug it into my laptop and all...
07:47 < BrandonW> Why the hell would you go and do something crazy like that for?
07:47 < millinao> yeah, how dare you use a product in the way it's intended to
07:49 <+Netham45> I know! jeez.
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07:49 <@efneTI92> [_Auron|G1] We called it Sin.
07:52 < BrandonW> I keep my connector-sized USB Bluetooth adapter plugged into my laptop at all times.
07:52 < BrandonW> The Dell Mini 9 has integrated Bluetooth but apparently I broke it.
07:53 < millinao> My laptop has a little LED thing with a bluetooth icon, but i've never seen it light up, nor does it appear in device manager
07:53 <+Netham45> heh
07:53 <+Netham45> my laptop doesn't have bluetooth
07:53 < millinao> My laptop doesn't know if it has bluetooth
07:54 <+Netham45> BrandonW, don't you have >9000 Bluetooth adaptors?
07:55 < BrandonW> 4 I think.
07:57 < millinao> what developments have you made in your bluetooth adventures?
07:57 <+Netham45> lol
07:57 < BrandonW> Two tiny ones for 84+/SE implantation, one in the 17" laptop, and two others for calculator testing.
07:57 < BrandonW> There's a bug in Blue8x where it just craps out after a while, the adapter fills its buffer and never flushes it, and I don't know why. So I'm stuck.
07:57 < BrandonW> I WAS close to releasing a chat demo.
07:57 < millinao> :(
07:58 <+Netham45> ...
07:58 <+Netham45> that reminds me
07:58 < millinao> i'm counting on you man, you're going to make pre-calc fun
07:58 <+Netham45> I think I have a BT adaptor wedged in my 84
07:59 < BrandonW> I could just release the chat demo anyway, and you should restart the app every 5 minutes or so.
07:59 < BrandonW> But I don't want to write any more until I know what I'm doing is correct.
07:59 < BrandonW> And if it's broken, I don't know I'm doing it right.
07:59 <+Netham45> make it a 'timed evaluation version'
08:00 < millinao> haha
08:00 < millinao> you can't just put in a timer and have it automatically flush the buffer every 4 minutes?
08:00 <+Netham45> you could have it flush the buffer every time you empty it
08:01 < BrandonW> There is no flushing the buffer, it's supposed to do it itself.
08:01 < BrandonW> I can query it.
08:01 < BrandonW> It never empties when this happens.
08:01 < millinao> oh, the bluetooth's buffer
08:05 < BrandonW> It's not easy to write a Bluetooth driver, it's a very simple yet complicated interface.
08:05 < BrandonW> A lot can happen out of order.
08:06 < BrandonW> And get queued up.
08:06 < BrandonW> I can see why it's such a pain to write a good stack.
08:06 < BrandonW> And especially on a calculator, trying to provide some kind of sane interface to everything.
08:07 < BrandonW> Within an OS that isn't multitasking.
08:10 < BrandonW> It's just a hard bug to reproduce.
08:10 < BrandonW> It pretty much amounts to mashing keys on both calculators at the same time.
08:11 < millinao> I could imagine you working for an embedded systems company and mocking them the entire time for having it too easy
08:18 < BrandonW> Why, back in my day, we didn't have any fancy USB documentation...
08:18 < BrandonW> You screwed around with random ports until you saw some magic happen.
08:19 < millinao> hmm, i wonder if it's safe to be peeling off the plastic to this battery
08:20 < BrandonW> Probably not.
08:20 < millinao> oh well
08:21 < millinao> if you can cover up an exploding PSP battery with a garbage can I can do this
08:22 < Randomist> lol at:  http://wintervenom.brandonw.net/Scott%20Garrett/Transcriptions/Captioneer%20Test%20Files/Rucka%20Rucka%20Ali%20-%20Canada.txt
08:22 < BrandonW> I am scared sometimes at what he puts on my server.
08:23 < millinao> wait, isn't scott garrett randomist:
08:23 < millinao> why did you put the lyrics up to a youtube song on his server?
08:23 < Randomist> Since you gave me the account, I've had nothing but my artwork, writing stuff, test files, open-source music, and what-not.
08:23 < BrandonW> That's not any more comforting.
08:23 < Randomist> Most of it has been moved to the Internet Archive now, though.
08:27 < Randomist> millinao:  Test for a MiniLyrics port I am working out.
08:27 < millinao> ah
08:33 < BrandonW> Who covered up an exploding PSP battery?
08:33 < BrandonW> I punctured one once and just threw it out.
08:33 < BrandonW> Or maybe I buried it.
08:33 < BrandonW> I don't know, I don't remember.
08:33 < Randomist> Are you sure it wasn't an exploding Apple product that Apple tried to gag-order not to tell anyone about?
08:33 < BrandonW> When you see smoke emanating from something like that, it's time to panic.
08:34 < millinao> maybe I remembered wrong
08:34 <+Netham45> wow
08:35 < BrandonW> I highly doubt I buried it.
08:35 < BrandonW> I really have no idea what happened to that thing.
08:36 <+Netham45> I popped this USB bluetooth adaptor apart, and it has circuitry below the 4 USB pins. This circuitry was open and exposed to the bottom of the METALLIC usb container, where even the slightest pressure could cause contact between 2 pins...
08:36 < millinao> haha
08:37 < Randomist> Hardware does not like you.
08:37 < millinao> how much was it?
08:37 < Randomist> Not even head phones.
08:37 <+Netham45> uh
08:37 <+Netham45> it was $2 off of dealextreme
08:37 <+Netham45> so
08:37 <+Netham45> not teribally worried
08:38 <+Netham45> I think I'm going to go sell an xbox controller tomorrow and just get a new, decent one.
08:38 < millinao> i think mine was 15ish
08:39 < BrandonW> You can get Bluetooth adapters for nothing off eBAy.
08:39 < BrandonW> eBay.*
08:39 < BrandonW> Less than $5 after shipping.
08:39 <+Netham45> You can get less than $2 after shipping
08:40 <+Netham45> but it's just the same piece of shit I keep getting
08:40 <+Netham45> This is like my 5th USB Bluetooth adaptor
08:40 < BrandonW> I already followed your advice once on getting Bluetooth adapters off DealExtreme, it took like 1-2 months to get here.
08:40 < BrandonW> Not doing that again.
08:40 <+Netham45> I actually kinda want to get an internal Bluetooth PCI card, heh.
08:40 <+Netham45> I have the least chance of breaking something that's screwed inside a steel box.
08:41  * Randomist wonders what to do with the server space, since everything is on the IA now.
08:41 < millinao> wait, you took advice from netham? fool
08:41 < BrandonW> Yes, shame on me.
08:41 < Randomist> I keep saying maybe mirror the Arch Linux mirrors.
08:42 < Randomist> But I'd have to figure out how to sync in PHP.
08:42 < Randomist> * Arch Linux packages.
08:43 < Randomist> * not mirror, but a new repo.
08:44 <+Netham45> hmm, I wonder if I can get anything for these old laptops...
08:44 < Randomist> My PHP is rustier than the Titanic.  >.>
08:44 <+Netham45> lol
08:44 <+Netham45> I wrote my first PHP script a few days ago
08:45 <+Netham45> It was actually pretty easy.
09:12 < BrandonW> How bizarre...I guess BCALL 8081h lets you receive a new 84+/SE calc ID if you don't already have one, which consists of fields 0A10h and 0A30h, whatever that is (it can't be large, because I think the boot code wouldn't be able to handle it).
09:12 < BrandonW> I think you could put that crap in an 8XQ and send it.
09:12 < BrandonW> There's no validation on it.
09:13 < BrandonW> So if you managed to clear your calc ID somehow, you could legitimately send a new one to it.
09:13 < BrandonW> Which means you can clone them, which defeats stuff like Zoom Algebra.
09:17 < millinao> Well, I don't think the average user of zoom algebra would know about that
09:17 < millinao> since the average user is, you know, 14
09:18 < BrandonW> Well, you could upload an 8XQ and say "Send this" with the serial to go with that calc ID.
09:18 < BrandonW> Or you could just download the patched versions from me.
09:18 < BrandonW> And I could go sleep.
09:18 < millinao> that sounds like a good idea
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09:19 < BrandonW> Good lord, there's an I/O version of that awful "erase the swap and certificate sectors a gozillion times and send everything about yourself to TI Connect" packet.
09:21 < _Auron|G1> hum.
09:24 <@E-J> ma.
09:25 < Randomist> < Ingar> but seriously, to anyone who's considering an IT career -- DON'T!  do something meaningful with your life | < rob```> the truth is: microsoft is dominating atm the whole IT world 
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09:28 < BrandonW> Yeah, 7C:563Dh on OS 2.41 is freaking crazy.
09:28 < BrandonW> It would take days to understand it.
09:28 < BrandonW> And I've already spent days trying.
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09:47 <@efneTI92> [_Auron_] We called it Sin.
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10:29  * _Auron_ sighs
10:29 <@_Auron_> media player classic seems to have broken permanently
10:29 <@_Auron_> it won't scale to the window size, even if I fullscreen. it only stays the same size unless I manually scale it using numpad
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14:02 < bsparks> work time... yo
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14:13 < jr19> booo work
14:18 < E-J> \o/ home
14:19 < jr19> hurray beer
14:19 < E-J> maybe i call your boss and tell that you are working under influense
14:19 < E-J> or not-working under influence
14:20  * _Auron_ wants more sales of Stroids today
14:20 < E-J> jr19 is drunk and _Auron_ is athlete who uses drugs
14:20 <@_Auron_> what?
14:20 < E-J> doping = steroids
14:21 <@_Auron_> I said Stroids, not steroids
14:21 <@_Auron_> Stroids is the cellphone game I just finished
14:21 < E-J> yeah i know :)
14:21 <@_Auron_> :P
14:22 <@_Auron_> I feel like starting on my next game *today*, but I can't think of a good name for it.
14:23 < jr19> ok
14:23 < jr19> but no i am not drunk
14:23 <@_Auron_> yet :P
14:23 < jr19> no, not going to happen today at all
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14:23 < jr19> maybe saturday, but i doubt i will get drunk
14:23 < bsparks> well, stroids sounds like steroids, so find another drug, remove the "e" and go with that? Cocain? 
14:24 <@_Auron_> ...
14:24 < bsparks> >_>
14:24 <@_Auron_> called Stroids because it's like Asteroids on Steroids
14:24 < bsparks> I know that, not sumb <_<
14:24 <@_Auron_> next game is nothing like that
14:24 < bsparks> *dumb
14:24 <@_Auron_> !qadd <bsparks> I know that, not sumb <_< | <bsparks> *dumb
14:24 <@efneTI86> Quote 1628 added
14:25 <@_Auron_> >:O
14:25 < bsparks> I wonder if I can delete quotes, eh
14:25 < leofox> qdel?
14:25 < bsparks> that's what I get for trying to use a new keyboard.
14:25 < bsparks> !qdel 1628
14:25 <@efneTI86> Deleted quote 1628
14:25 < bsparks> :o
14:25 < bsparks> _Auron_, you can readd that, I don't mind lol
14:25 <@_Auron_> legasp
14:25 < leofox> I agree, it was a stupid quote
14:26 <@_Auron_> I don't really care
14:26 < leofox> are we going to qadd every typo now?
14:26 < bsparks> I didn't know I could delete quote o.0
14:26 < leofox> bsparks you are a halfop i think
14:26  * _Auron_ is a Master for some reason
14:26 < bsparks> leofox, I don't know what I can and can't do here anymore lol
14:27 < leofox> I know I can kick people from the channel, ban them from the partyline and request voice
14:27 < bsparks> for the longest time I could add quotes, then I could add quotes, and kick, but not del quotes, and now I can del quotes
14:27 < leofox> they dont really tell you when you get promoted
14:27 < bsparks> no, they don't lol
14:28 <@_Auron_> unless you're given op status
14:28 <@_Auron_> then it's stated in the topic
14:28 < leofox> I thought something was broken because i didnt get +v anymore
14:28 < leofox> but it was because i became halfop or something
14:28 < Andy_J> AFAIK those first two things are mutually bound, bsparks 
14:28 < Andy_J> unless levels changed for everyone at some point
14:28 < bsparks> Andy_J, I think at some point aardy was messing with levels, and I was part of it, idk
14:28 < bsparks> but, work time is now.
14:29 < Andy_J> work :<
14:29 < leofox> I need to buy some booze
14:29 < leofox> what should I get?
14:29 < leofox> I was thinking of gin and whiskey
14:29 <@_Auron_> get absinthe
14:29 < leofox> I dont like absinthe
14:29 <@_Auron_> add lime and ginger ale to absinthe, tastes amazing
14:29 < ports> eugh
14:29 < ports> they took my parking spot
14:30 < ports> _Auron_, what kind of absinthe
14:30 <@_Auron_> lucid
14:30 < leofox> absinthe is lame ever sinc ethey removed the wormwood
14:30 < ports> i havent seen any local places selling it
14:32 < ports> bastards
14:32 < ports> i cant believe they took my spot
14:32 < ports> its paid through october
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14:42 < al_b_back> since when have they removed the wormwood?
14:42 < al_b_back> there was the real thing when I was in Europe around xmas
14:42 < ports> al_b_back, focus.
14:42 < ports> the "non wormwood" version was meant for US sale
14:43 < al_b_back> how would I know that? I've never been to the US
14:44 < al_b_back> !t Welcome to the #TCPA | The official TI-OS cryptographic signing key has been confirmed cracked! | Hanging out in Andy_J's hallway is cooler than #tcpa | Does anyone here NOT have ops?
14:44 -!- efneTI86 changed the topic of #tcpa to: Welcome to the #TCPA | The official TI-OS cryptographic signing key has been confirmed cracked! | Hanging out in Andy_J's hallway is cooler than #tcpa | Does an
14:44 < ports> ! i dont
14:44 < ports> !t i dont
14:44 < al_b_back> !t Welcome to the #TCPA | TI-OS signing key cracked! | Hanging out in Andy_J's hallway is cooler than #tcpa | Does anyone here NOT have ops?
14:44 -!- efneTI86 changed the topic of #tcpa to: Welcome to the #TCPA | TI-OS signing key cracked! | Hanging out in Andy_J's hallway is cooler than #tcpa | Does anyone here NOT have ops?
14:47 < Andy_J> stop poking me
14:47 < Andy_J> what do I look like, an orc?
14:47 < Andy_J> <_<
14:47 < ports> no one is poking you
14:47 < Andy_J> this is not warcraft in space
14:47 < Andy_J> it's much more sophisticated
14:47 < Andy_J> I know it's not 3d
14:48 < ports> do you people in Ohio start drinking in the morning?
14:48 < ports> you dont make any sense
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14:52 <@efneTI92> [Randomist] The pycho has entered the channel.  Sound the alarms.
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15:19 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Genolo] by etaonrish
15:22 < ports> not cool
15:22 < ports> im in a building with explosive TNP
15:23 < bsparks> and that Andy_J, is why my job, when consistent, is better than yours
15:24 < Andy_J> nuh uh
15:24 < bsparks> I just made $50 for all of... what, an hours work?
15:24 < ports> bsparks, but you cant sustain that rate of pay
15:25 < bsparks> ports, I can do $250 a day when business is good
15:25 < ports> interesting
15:25 < bsparks> 5 or 6 appliance service calls a day [ includes AC units and furnaces ]
15:25 < ports> oh
15:26 < ports> who do you work for?
15:26 < bsparks> myself/my dad
15:26 < bsparks> who, in turn, works for himself/his dad
15:26 < bsparks> who, in turn, up until the early 90's worked for himself/his dad, etc
15:27 < ports> im bored :P
15:28 < nicolas> ditto
15:28 < jr19> same
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15:32 < ports> beaver
15:32 < ports> oh man
15:32 < ports> they had some guy on bob and tom yesterday.. i dont think ive ever heard so many nicknames for vagina in 3 minutes... he sang some ridiculous song
15:33 < nicolas> haha
15:33 < jr19> i dont like that show that much
15:33 < bsparks> ports, I bet you could top it... aaand... GO!
15:33 < ports> jr19, that train robbery guy was Burt Kreischer
15:34 < jr19> there is some funny stuff on there
15:34 < ports> bsparks, dude no way.
15:34 < jr19> but the whole out of control laughter bugs me
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15:34 < ports> jr19, train robbery story...
15:34 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v krisk] by efneTI85, efneTI86, etaonrish
15:35 < jr19> yes
15:35 < jr19> you mentioned it twice now
15:35 < ports> i wish icould find an audio clip of it
15:35 < jr19> like i said some stuff on there is pretty funny
15:35 < ports> wtf
15:36 < ports> the sky just got dark
15:36 < ports> and its monsooning outside
15:36 < nicolas> happens here yesterday
15:36 < nicolas> happened*
15:36 < jr19> sunny and warm here
15:36 < jr19> supposed to be sunny and warm the next couple days
15:37 < ports> crap
15:37 < ports> im gunna go move my car
15:37 < nicolas> put it in the shade??
15:37 < ports> i just looked at it from the window.. and the trees its parked under.. theyre swaying 4-5 feet
15:38 < ports> there goes $2 of parking meter money
15:38 < Andy_J> baw
15:38 < nicolas> shouldn't it be "free" to park by your own house ?
15:38 < jr19> you're a dork
15:39 < ports> nicolas, im at work
15:39 < jr19> trees sway in storms
15:39 < ports> the university took away my private parking spot
15:39 < jr19> is somebody else parking there
15:39 < ports> no
15:39 < bsparks> baaaaw
15:39 < jr19> haha you got punkd
15:39 < ports> but they took my "Reserved Parking Spot #11" plaque this morning
15:39 < Andy_J> ^
15:39 < ports> bastiges
15:40 < ports> the rental goes July 1st to June 30th.. and it was $1440 last year
15:40 < bsparks> be glad it didn't rain on you, while you were in bed sleeping this morning
15:40 < ports> we rented it in October... and they charged us a full year.. so you would expect to get it till this October.  since you paid full price on it
15:40 < nicolas> ports: ask reimbursment ?
15:41 < ports> nicolas, departments working on it.. but unlikely..
15:41 < ports> theyre parking nazis
15:41 < nicolas> you live in the states... SUE!
15:41 < ports> brb
15:41 < nicolas> man, I just watched Sicko ... kinda scary
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15:42 < bsparks> I wonder...
15:42 < bsparks> !kb bsparks test
15:42 < bsparks> damn :p
15:43 < jr19> :(
15:43 < bsparks> worth a shot
15:44 < nicolas> hmm... I wonder... I'm tempted to try it too now :P
15:44 < jr19> try being a sicko?
15:44 < bsparks> try it on yourself so at least you can undo it from the party line >.>
15:44 < nicolas> no, typing !kb bsparks test
15:45 < mokomull> I can undo it from wherever I want :)
15:45 < Randomist> I don't know how to undo bans from the line, so I leave the banning to the experienced moderators.
15:46 < ports> heh
15:46 < jr19> i used to have a password on one of the bots, but then i was deemed too dangerous
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15:46 < bsparks> Randomist, you can't ban anyways
15:46 < ports> ok moved my car
15:46 < ports> i gotta pick up the floor mats tonight
15:46 < jr19> did your car thank you for keeping it away from the scary trees
15:47 < Randomist> When I boot up from my flash-USB, it is very fast.
15:47 < ports> yes Dorothy was very happy. she sang rock and roll band to me
15:47 < Randomist> There is one thing that is annoying me.
15:47 < Randomist> I keep getting stuck with IO-WAITs.
15:47 < Randomist> Everything stops until it finishes writing.
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15:47 <@efneTI92> [_Auron|G1] We called it Sin.
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15:50 < nicolas> i'm getting hungry :S
15:50 < nicolas> and I have no food here (at work)
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16:04 < ports> nicolas, i try to keep some cereal bars in my desk
16:05 < nicolas> I had some maltesers... but I finished they earlier on
16:05 < Andy_J> we have a bunch of snacks in the kitchen
16:05 < Andy_J> but it's too close to lunch
16:05 < nicolas> them*
16:05 < Andy_J> have I ever mentioned I love my job?
16:05 < nicolas> the kitchen is empty here .. at least this week and next... everyone's on vacation
16:05 < nicolas> Andy_J: where you working at ?
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16:05 <@efneTI92> [TheStorm] Yes rivereye, it is time to go fishing.
16:07 < jr19> we get free bagels on thursday which is sort of nice i guess
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16:07 < jr19> but there's no community food in the kitchen generally, people just bring snacks all the time and put them in the fax room
16:07 < ports> heh
16:07 < Andy_J> nicolas: http://equityeng.com/
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16:08 < nicolas> well, we have to fill up the fridge ourselves too ..
16:08 < Andy_J> we have granola bars, bags of chips, etc.
16:08 < nicolas> just no one's here
16:08 < nicolas> food's not free... only coffee
16:08 < Andy_J> and there's a candy drawer hidden in a filing cabinet
16:08 < nicolas> not hidden well enough apparently
16:08 < ports> mm coffee
16:09 < Andy_J> hidden because some people eat too much :P
16:09 < nicolas> hehe
16:09 < nicolas> I would
16:09 < Andy_J> specifically hidden from the secretary
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16:09 < nicolas> at my previous job, the secretary had a little bowl that she filled with candy, and occasionally (like xmas and such) with chocolates
16:10 < Andy_J> I'm in a bad position, right next to the kitchen
16:10 < nicolas> I used to eat so many of them I occasionally bough a pack of sweets to fill it back up ... yes, I felt guilty
16:10 <+krisk> i read up to the word "bowl" and imagined a stoner secretary
16:10 <+krisk> for a moment my life was bliss
16:11 < Andy_J> my cube wheeee http://twitpic.com/1o9vp
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16:13 < bsparks> Andy_J, I like the subtleness of the most awesome USB hub ever
16:13 < nicolas> i'm gonna need to take pics of my work place soon, all my friends and family want to see it :P
16:16 -!- ryantmer_ [~ryantmer@64-247-139-115.ssimicro.com] has joined #tcpa
16:17 < nicolas> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=260+route+du+pin+montard,+france&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=55.718442,66.445312&ie=UTF8&ll=43.623188,7.060215&spn=0.001575,0.002028&t=h&z=19
16:17 < nicolas> kinda hard to see.. but all the building around the place are "modern" office space buildings
16:18 < Andy_J> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=20600+Chagrin+Blvd,+Beachwood,+OH+44122&sll=43.622877,7.0604&sspn=0.002788,0.004812&ie=UTF8&ll=41.464305,-81.534117&spn=0.002886,0.004812&t=h&z=18
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16:18 <@efneTI92> [Tari_] Remember, remember the 5th of November
16:18 < Andy_J> on the south side of the street
16:18 < nicolas> while as you can sort of tell from the rooftop my place of work is and old villa ... with an awesome back garden, with a stone table (the really bright white thing at the back of the house) and there are 2 wooden tables beneath the trees
16:18 < Andy_J> incidentally you can see my apartment building there too
16:19 < bsparks> one could almost snipe andy in his apt from his office
16:19 < Andy_J> s/almost//
16:19 < bsparks> Andy_J, unless they wanted to shoot your feet, it'd be kinda hard lol
16:19 < Andy_J> definitely could get someone on the sofa
16:19 < nicolas> or in his office from his apt
16:19 < bsparks> ah, true
16:19 < bsparks> nicolas, that would be a little bit harder
16:20 < nicolas> and then they'd just say he must've killed himself
16:20 < Andy_J> or the shitter
16:21 < bsparks> I made fajitas last night
16:22 < Andy_J> they need to update the "people" page
16:22 < jr19> chicken?
16:22 < Andy_J> add me and remove the old guy who got released >_>
16:22 < bsparks> jr19, steak actually 
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16:23 < nicolas> right, I should probably try and get another 30 minutes worth of work, and then be on my way to do shopping
16:23 < bsparks> I need to head over to microcenter tomorrow or so
16:24 < nicolas> heh, and now all I can think of is "what should I buy ?"
16:24 < nicolas> hehehe
16:24 <+krisk> http://zip.4chan.org/g/src/1249398922523.gif
16:24 <+krisk> haha
16:24 < bsparks> krisk, stop it with the *chan links
16:25 < nicolas> I don't get it ?
16:25 < nicolas> i've never cried checking my email
16:25 < Andy_J> no more fucking *chan* links
16:27 < jr19> STEAK IS GOOD TO
16:27 < jr19> too
16:27 < leofox>  jo krisk
16:27 < leofox> how are you
16:27 < jr19> also, why were you crying while reading your email nicolas 
16:28 < bsparks> jr19, except, compared to the ones I had earlier this week, mine sucked
16:28 <+krisk> hi leofox
16:28 <+krisk> im ok
16:28 <+krisk> almost time for squats then i will be less ok
16:28 <+krisk> and then hanging out, more ok
16:28 < jr19> theres this place here called Las Margaritas that makes the most unbelievable chicken chipotle burrito i have ever tasted
16:28 < jr19> i hope they never go out of business
16:28 < leofox> I was soo baked yesterday
16:29 < nicolas> jr19: and why are you unable to read things properly jr19 ?
16:29 <+krisk> damn leofox i keep forgetting to link you something
16:30 < leofox> ?
16:30 <+krisk> i saw a movie that would be great for you
16:30 < jr19> i must have missed something
16:30 < jr19> i was doing work and couldnt keep up with the flow of the channel
16:30 < leofox> what movie?
16:31 <+krisk> thats what i forgot
16:31 < jr19> maybe its the gif that krisk posted, i dont know, i didnt check it
16:31 <+krisk> whats another word for japanese restaurant/sushi bar?
16:31 < bsparks> I should go outside and do something with my day
16:32 < bsparks> all my friends are losers and sleep till 3pm though
16:32 < jr19> you should get new friends if they sleep until 3pm
16:32 < jr19> that's a waste
16:33 < leofox> krisk dunno
16:33 < bsparks> they also work from like, 4-10 and stay up until 6am lol
16:33 < bsparks> I do need new friends though
16:33 < jr19> well if they work 2nd shift, that's a little different
16:34 <+krisk> leofox you had one you went to and there was a girl
16:34 < leofox> huh?
16:34 < leofox> that sentence is weird
16:34 < bsparks> Andy_J, should have sold me his Dell LCD when I was up there
16:35 <+krisk> there was a cute girl you were interested in at a store recently
16:36 < Andy_J> bsparks: yeah no
16:36 < bsparks> Andy_J, why not? :p
16:36 < Andy_J> just because I'm not using it now doesn't mean I don't have plans to use it again when I have desk space
16:37 < bsparks> damn :p
16:37 < bsparks> my CRT is going out on me bad 
16:37 < nicolas> you can get LCDs for pretty cheap
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16:38 < bsparks> I know, in actuality I should save up for another x203w from acer, just so they match
16:39 < leofox> that's odd
16:39 < leofox> krisk: oh you mean the toko
16:39 < leofox> that's not a restaurant
16:39 < leofox> that's like a store for Japanese food
16:40 < jr19> heh
16:40 < jr19> i have no interest in sushi
16:40 < sir_lewk> http://it.slashdot.org/story/09/08/04/1254204/Null-Prefix-SSL-Atttacks-Enabled-In-New-Sslsniff?from=rss
16:41 < sir_lewk> "Moxie Marlinspike":  best name ever, or best name ever?
16:42 < leofox> krisk what was with the toko
16:43 < jr19> http://www.wafb.com/Global/story.asp?S=2812629
16:43 < jr19> better name
16:45 < jr19> sniffing ssl is fun if you can get it to work
16:48 <+krisk> not toko
16:48 <+krisk> another name
16:48 <+krisk> i think
16:52 < bsparks> someone hilight me
16:52 <+krisk> no bsparks no
16:53 < bsparks> oh my, my script is very very broken o.o
16:53 < Randomist> You have to have a script to hilight?
16:54 < Randomist> * highlight
16:54 < bsparks> I have a script to throw any highlights in a seperate tap
16:54 < bsparks> *tab
16:54 < Randomist> Oh.
16:54 < Randomist> I need that.
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16:55 < Randomist> D-Bus script I got sucks.
16:56 < jr19> d-bus?
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16:58 < Randomist> * DBus or however you say it.  It sends a DBus message to the notification daemon.
16:58 < Randomist> But it breaks because the DBus session file changes when I log out.
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17:02 < bsparks> ok, can someone highlight me again
17:02 <+krisk> no bsparks no
17:02 < bsparks> hmm, awesome
17:02 < bsparks> almost...
17:03 < jr19> bsparks !
17:03 < jr19> i got confused with the dash
17:03 < ports> anyoe listen to Sirius radio?
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17:04 < Peter_W> O_o
17:04 < Peter_W> Key cracked, you say...
17:04 < jr19> srsbsns
17:04 < ports> hey Peter
17:04 < Peter_W> hey
17:04 < Peter_W> long time no see, everyone :P
17:04 < ports> whats up
17:05 < Peter_W> back on the farm, meaning dial-up
17:05 < Peter_W> until college at the end of the month
17:05 < ports> yeah i forget youre young
17:05 < Peter_W> it'll be nice to get back on broadband
17:05 < jr19> broadband is overrated
17:05 < bsparks> sup Peter_W 
17:06 < Peter_W> actually, jr19, I'd say it's underrated by those who already have it :-)
17:06 < Peter_W> not much, you?
17:06 < jr19> i used to do a lot of ircing when i had dialup
17:06 < jr19> the good ol days
17:06 < Peter_W> hehe
17:06 < bsparks> ok, can someone hilight me again? I may have got this working
17:06 < jr19> back in the mid 90s when geocities was king
17:06 < Peter_W> bsparks
17:06 < jr19> bsparks !
17:06 < bsparks> bitchcakes >.<
17:07 <+krisk> yes bsparks yes
17:07 < Peter_W> rofl
17:08 < Peter_W> ah yes, the good old days-- or at least, my good old days. I'm only referring to about 5 years ago
17:08 < bsparks> alright, once more for the win :D
17:09 < ports> damn kids
17:09 < Peter_W> bsparks
17:09 < bsparks> damnit! >.<
17:09 < Peter_W> what'd I ever do to you, ports?!
17:09 < Andy_J> Peter_W: he's disgruntled to everyone
17:09 < jr19> ports hates you because you ride a bike
17:09 < ports> Andy_J, no mainly you
17:09 < Peter_W> haven't ridden a bike in years :P
17:09 < ports> i hate bike riders
17:09 < Peter_W> also, Hi Andy_J! :-)
17:10 < jr19> you have ridden a bike though, so he hates you
17:10 < ports> theyre supposed to obey traffic laws!
17:10 < Andy_J> hi
17:10 <+krisk> and me
17:10 <+krisk> yay
17:10 < bsparks> this is why I hardly write scripts damnit >.<
17:10 < Andy_J> ports: so are cars, and half they time they don't
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17:10 < jr19> is it an mirc script
17:10 < ports> Andy_J, what's your point?
17:10  * Peter_W thinks bsparks could clearly use practice, then? :P
17:10 < bsparks> yes, I could
17:11 < bsparks> I'm trying to make a global hilight channel >.<
17:11 < bsparks> *highlight
17:11 < bsparks> and it wants to make one per server
17:11 < jr19> ports is a mirc script nerd
17:11 < ports> i also hate those things that roll up cords automatically... the springy ones
17:11 < jr19> he writes mirc scripts that blow up bicycles probably
17:11 < Peter_W> heh
17:11 < ports> bsparks, you want one?
17:12 < bsparks> ports, I don't use shitIRC, so no
17:12 < jr19> i recommend installing 7th sphere 3.0
17:12 < bsparks> and I'd rather write my own
17:12 < Randomist> He's on a Mace.
17:12 < Peter_W> what's the channel stats link these days?
17:12 < bsparks> Randomist, my system doesn't matter
17:12 < Andy_J> Peter_W: dunno if there are any
17:12 < bsparks> I could be on Win or *Nix, and I'd still use X-Chat
17:12 < Peter_W> there's probably a ! command, but it has been ages..
17:12 < ports> on *:text:*:#:{ if ($me isin $1) && ($chan != $active) { echo @notice  - [ $+ $time(h.nn.sstt) $time(mm.dd.yy) $+ ] [  $+ $nick $+ - $1-  ] [ $+ $chan on $network $+ ]  } }
17:12 < bsparks> and thus, still use perl
17:13 < Andy_J> I could be an ass and ban you for colors
17:13 < Randomist> In b4 !k4color.
17:13 < Merthsoft> ! ports color
17:13 < Andy_J> Peter_W: only stats I know of are half a year out of date
17:13 < Merthsoft> !k ports color
17:13 -!- ports was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [Merthsoft: color]
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17:14 < Peter_W> hm, I thought color was filtered on here
17:14 < Peter_W> must be my settings got reset
17:14 < Andy_J> efnet's ircd doesn't support it
17:14 < Merthsoft> it's efnet
17:14 < Randomist> Peter_W:  What do you think this is, DragonFire?  :P
17:14 < Andy_J> Merthsoft: at least it isn't gamesurge
17:14 < Randomist> Nah, EFnet is too awesome for services.
17:14 < Peter_W> sorry, should have worded that better: I thought my settings filtered color, but clearly not anymore :-)
17:15 < Merthsoft> oooh
17:15 < jr19> efnet is the wild west of the interwebz
17:15 < Randomist> Dark Ages.
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17:17 < Randomist> Have you paid your $699 SCO fee?
17:21 < bsparks> I think I have it, one more test?
17:21 < Peter_W> bsparks?!
17:21 < bsparks> or I just totally broke it... wtf o.0
17:22 < bsparks> I got it to put them all in 1 tab, but it sticks the tab on the server that has the first hilight
17:28 < bsparks> well, I got it to open a new tab...
17:28 < bsparks> seperate from any chans.
17:32 < bsparks> I think I got it working.
17:36 < bsparks> Merthsoft, highlight me
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17:37 < bsparks> damnit >.<
17:37 < bsparks> can someone highlight me?
17:37 < calc84> bsparks
17:37 < bsparks> hmm
17:41  * Peter_W breaks open a highlighter and lobs it at bsparks
17:42 < ports> anyone have Sirius radio?
17:45 < bsparks> Peter_W, just resend that last line there, I think I just got it :D
17:46 < Peter_W> the... emote?
17:46  * Peter_W breaks open a highlighter and lobs it at bsparks
17:46 < bsparks> w00t
17:46 < Peter_W> hehe
17:52 < bsparks> got it :D
17:53 < Peter_W> hmmm, 1 second ping
17:53 < PollTroll> I love 4 hour windows waiting for internet repairmen
17:53 < Peter_W> so you're not lagging, and yet... =P
17:53 -!- PollTroll is now known as Barrett
17:54 < Peter_W> hey Barrett
17:54 < Barrett> have any of you ever had a repairman come at the beginning of the 4 hour window?
17:54 < Barrett> as opposed to the end or even after the window?
17:54 < bsparks> I have had them come before the window
17:54 < Barrett> wow
17:54 < Barrett> lucky
17:55 < Barrett> I mean, they could at least update us with new estimates... they know they have x places to visit before coming to me
17:56 < Peter_W> grrr
17:56 < Peter_W> I hate websites that take forever to load, but let you start logging in, then finish loading and execute javascript to place your cursor in the login box... *while you're typing the password already*
17:58 < Barrett> yeah
17:58 < Barrett> my bank does that
17:58 < Barrett> and if I finish and hit Enter before it does that javascript, the next page complains that I don't have javascript enabled
18:00 < bsparks> you know... I remember on my old PowerMac 5400, when you had a CD playing on it, the entire computer could "hard lock" and the keyboard and mouse would be frozen, the screen would stop updating, nothing would respond at all, but that CD would always play, no matter how long you let it sit, until the CD ran out of tracks
18:01 < bsparks> nowadays, when I play a CD in my computer, and it as much as starts bottlenecking, the CD gets all choppy :(
18:02 < Barrett> did your old computer have a CD drive that did all the playing? (with the line out and everything)
18:02 < bsparks> I don't know to be honest, I'm pretty sure it was just an ATA cable and power cable to it
18:03 < bsparks> it didn't have any volume controls, headphone jacks, or even an eject button on the front, I do know that
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18:03 < jr19> those old macs are classic
18:03 < bsparks> of course, that computer would also stay online when I put it to sleep
18:04 < jr19> i remember the ones we used in school, you had to put the cd in a special plastic case and then load it into the mac
18:04 < bsparks> which was awesome :D
18:04 < bsparks> jr19, uh, what?
18:04 < jr19> there were some with regular CDROM drives, but others, you had to put the CD in a plastic sleeve type thing and then push it into the mac
18:05 < bsparks> really now?
18:05 < Barrett> I remember that
18:05 < jr19> i dont remember much about it, but i remember doing it
18:05 < bsparks> hmm...
18:05 < Barrett> we had a non-mac computer that required sleeves
18:05 < jr19> it was probably back in the early 90s?
18:05 < bsparks> I remember doing that on a NeXT box
18:05 < Barrett> of course, we lost all of them and couldn't put CDs in the computer anymore
18:05 < bsparks> but not a Mac
18:05 < jr19> 1993-1994...i dont know
18:06 < bsparks> I used to have an adapter for my Panasonic Disc drives
18:06 < bsparks> were the 'sleeves' square?
18:06 < bsparks> and extremely awkward to open, etc
18:06 < jr19> yeah they were square as far as i can remember
18:07 < jr19> i'm pretty sure they were just like the cheap plastic cases you get with some CD-Rs these days, but i can't be certain
18:07 < jr19> i just remember thinking it was strange that you had to take a cd out of a case and put it back into a case before inserting it
18:07  * Randomist thinks about making an attepmt to try to sing.
18:08 < jr19> i try singing sometimes when i play guitar, i dont care how bad i am
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18:09 < bsparks> jr19, I had an adapter that kinda looked like this http://img.zdnet.com/techDirectory/PD.GIF and I had to slide a little bit of it out, put the CD in, slide it closed, and slide it into my old Panasonic laptop, or the NeXT boxes at school
18:10 < bsparks> w00t free google business cards
18:10 < jr19> bsparks: http://www.oldsoftware.com/caddies.html
18:10 < jr19> thsoe are what i'm takling about i guess
18:10 < jr19> those*
18:10 < Barrett> hahaaa! yes
18:10 < Randomist> There is a bit of rasp in my voice when I try to sing, and I don't have one of those mics that out.  But I discovered I can filter that out with an echo chamber... like in a metal dryer.  :P
18:10 < Barrett> I've been googling and couldn't find anything
18:10 < Barrett> that's it
18:10 < Randomist> * filter that
18:11 < bsparks> jr19, YEAH!
18:11 < bsparks> :D
18:11 < bsparks> those are almost exactly like what I used 
18:12 < jr19> it took me a little while to find them too
18:12 < jr19> would've helped to know what they were called i guess
18:12 < jr19> "caddies"
18:13 < bsparks> fuck YEAH! 25 free business cards from google :D
18:15 < jr19> i could get business cards through work, but i haven't
18:15 < jr19> i'm not important anyway
18:16 < Andy_J> bsparks: I'll see your 25 and raise you about 250
18:16 < Andy_J> shit I should have given you one
18:16 < bsparks> Andy_J, you should have
18:16 < bsparks> and I'm happy with 25. I only got the personal ones for now anyway
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18:18 < mtgrss111> guys, i need help :/
18:18 < mtgrss111> my computer's being stupid and win7 only recognizes "Standard VGA Graphics Adapter"
18:19 < mtgrss111> instead of the nvidia geforce 4 thingy
18:19 < jr19> thingy
18:19 < mtgrss111> ya
18:19 < jr19> windows update doesnt do anything?
18:20 < bsparks> mtgrss111, did you install drivers from nvidia.com? and make sure your BIOS says to use the nvidia etc
18:20 < jr19> gah, i wish i had my laptop here right now cuz then i could get on windows 7 and see what you're seeing
18:20 < mtgrss111> there's the hitch
18:20 < mtgrss111> It doesn't have internet access
18:20 < mtgrss111> My laptop works fine.
18:20  * Randomist cracks up at the result of his attempt to sing.
18:21 < mtgrss111> but this machine here does not have any wireless reciever.
18:21 < Randomist> I sound like a subwoofer.  >.>
18:21 < bsparks> mtgrss111... ...
18:21 < jr19> cant you just download the drivers to a usb stick
18:21 < mtgrss111> I tried that once.
18:21 < mtgrss111> something got c\screwed up, though.
18:22 < bsparks> your laptop can't do internet sharing
18:22 < mtgrss111> I dunno if it can, what do I need to do that?
18:22 < mtgrss111> a cable?
18:22 < jr19> yeah
18:22 < bsparks> asin, you plug your computer into the laptop with a crossover cable [ yeah, that's what you do here, isn't it? or is it safe nowandays to use a regular eth cable? ] and use the laptop as a sort of router
18:23 < jr19> i think you need a crossover if its between computers
18:23 < bsparks> me too
18:23 < bsparks> or a crossover patch
18:23 < mtgrss111> I don't have that handy :/
18:23 < bsparks> mtgrss111, you don't have the tools to make an ethernet cable handy? :(
18:24 < mtgrss111> well, I don't have an ethernet cable handy
18:24 < jr19> straight through cables work sometimes
18:24 < jr19> you cuold try it
18:24 < mtgrss111> had one, but it's been long lost
18:24 < bsparks> ...how do you not have an ethernet cable...? D:
18:24 < jr19> lol
18:25 < jr19> i think they both need to be gigabit interfaces though in order for that to work
18:25 < bsparks> jr19, I just thought they had to match
18:25 < bsparks> asin, no plugging a t-base/1000 into a t-base/100 computer 
18:25 < jr19> i dont know, with mtgrss111 not having a cable, we'll never know :)
18:25 < bsparks> indeed
18:26 < mtgrss111> >_>
18:26 < bsparks> I could lend him one of the, like, 30 I made when I was bored
18:26 < jr19> i have a crossover lying at my parents house
18:26 < jr19> i made it in my cisco class heh
18:27 < bsparks> I have one cat5e cable that has marks every, idk, 1.5in or so on it, it used ot be ~50ft, it's not around ~40 because I just clip the end and re-crimp it every time I need to make a crossover or regular cable lol
18:28 < bsparks> you'd think I would be smart and just get a crossover converter by now
18:28 < jr19> eh...thats one way to do it though
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18:30 < jr19> mtgrss111: why cant you just try the usb stick thing again, and do it right?
18:30 < mtgrss111> do what right?
18:31 < jr19> btw... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auto-MDIX
18:31 < jr19> i thought you said something got screwed up
18:34 < mtgrss111> well, i already used the disc to repair it
18:34 <+krisk> anyone know a way to downmix 5.1 to 2.1 in windows in realtime?
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18:34 < mtgrss111> so i'm back where i started
18:34 < jr19> ok
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18:35 < mtgrss111> PC Pitstop seems to have soem win7 drivers, though
18:36 < jr19> win7 is sweet
18:36 < Tari_> ^^
18:36 < jr19> is there going to be a full version and an upgrade version?
18:37 < jr19> or just a full version
18:37 <+krisk> ports did you consider a vauxhall vx8 bathhurst?
18:37 < Tari_> the former
18:37 < jr19> so if you have the release candidate installed, can you get the upgrade version?
18:37 < Tari_> if it works like vista, you can get the upgrade, do a clean install with it, then 'upgrade' that clean install to get it properly licensed
18:38 < ports> krisk, you aren't talking to me
18:38 < Tari_> but you can't upgrade from the RC
18:38 -!- Tari_ is now known as Tari
18:38 < jr19> hmm...that sucks
18:39 < jr19> they should appreciate me for testing their product
18:39 < ports> jr19, i thought there was a playboy channel on Sirius
18:39 <+krisk> top gear guy is saying vauxhall bathhurst > audi s4
18:39 < jr19> ports has an a4 anyway
18:39 < ports> krisk, so?
18:39 < ports> a McLaren is better than an A4 too
18:40 <+krisk> just curious what you opinion might be
18:40 <+krisk> well theyre in the same class i think
18:40 < ports> the Vauxhaull is a Pontiac..
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18:40 <+krisk> meaning?
18:40 < ports> its a General Motors piece of crap.
18:41 <+krisk> its also faster
18:42 < ports> it's a GM vehicle. no respect.
18:42 <+krisk> hmm ok
18:42 <+krisk> whats wrong with gm?
18:42 < jr19> yes, what's wrong with gm?
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18:43 < ports> http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/new_cars/4292379.html
18:43 < Tari> I think I'm going to have to completely restart season 3 of bsg
18:44 < Tari> I stopped about halfway through a while ago and can't remember where I was
18:44 <+krisk> the vauxhall sounds awesomely different too
18:44 <+krisk> because supercharger
18:44 < jr19> lol i like how they mention the Aztec in the "sub-par" cars
18:45 < jr19> my friend just bought one in the last year
18:45 < ports> they still exist?
18:45 <+krisk> its also as fast as an m5
18:45 < ports> jr19, i hate stupid people
18:46 < ports> jr19, last night the front desk kid at the hotel was trying to tell me that GM sold Cadillac and shut down GMC
18:47 <+krisk> hahaha
18:47 < jr19> hmm
18:47 < jr19> it is a used aztec, i dont know what year
18:47 < jr19> its really not that cool though
18:47 <+krisk> "we have heard that drunk people in amsterdam are picking up Smarts and throwing them in the canals"
18:48 < ports> good
18:48 < jr19> the interior looks like any other pontiac from that time period....very gray/red and unappealing
18:48 < ports> i almost set a house on fire last week
18:48 < ports> because a douchebag had 2 smart cars in his driveway
18:49 < ports> goodbye Pontiac, Saturn, Hummer, Saab.
18:49 <+krisk> those are at least 4 cars
18:49 < ports> Pontiac and Saturn shouldn't exist anyway. they're just clones of Chevrolet/GM
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18:50 < ports> krisk, no.. i think the only original car in Pontiac/Saturn is the Crossfire... everything else is a rebranded clone from the mother company.
18:51 < ports> Hummer.. theres no reason for that to exist anymore.
18:51 <+krisk> except for military vehicles
18:52 < ports> krisk, i dont think Hummer produces military vehicles.
18:52 < jr19> solstice?
18:52 < ports> jr19, sorry yeah Solstice
18:52 < jr19> isnt the crossfire a chrysler?
18:52 < ports> jr19, yeah
18:52 < ports> i got the names mixed up
18:52 < jr19> ok
18:52 <+krisk> i thought they were spinoffs of HMMWV's
18:53 < ports> krisk, they are. but GM doesnt produce the military vehicle as far as i know
18:53 <+krisk> ah ok
18:53 < ports> AM General is an American heavy vehicle manufacturer based in South Bend, Indiana, best known for the civilian Hummer and military HMMWV.
18:55 < jr19> i am awesome today.
18:55 < ports> AM General, which remains an independent company and government and military contractor, sold the rights to the Hummer name to General Motors in 1999 but continues to build the vehicles for GM, except for the H3 which is assembled in GM factories.
18:55 <+krisk> ok cool
18:56 < ports> Hummer as a civilian vehicle shouldn't exist.
18:56 < ports> take away those ridiculous gas guzzling vehicle options and people will stop using them
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18:56 <+krisk> i agree
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19:00 < jr19> yeah they are ridiculous
19:00 < Tari> go find some and fill their exhaust pipes with plaster :D
19:00 < jr19> not to be sexist or anything...but i'm going to be sexist
19:00 <+krisk> ok
19:00 <+krisk> girls suck
19:00 < jr19> and say i see too many "soccer moms" driving giant SUVs and doing stupid things on the road
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19:01 < Joe_> ok. i inconveniene myself and lugged this entire thing to the modem.
19:01 < Joe_> *inconvenienced
19:01 < ports> thats not true
19:01 < Joe_> i'll try this driver thing one more tie
19:01 < ports> i have just as many men in SUVs try to run me off the road and shit
19:02 < jr19> maybe cuz you look like a woman
19:02 < Joe_> wait, what?
19:02 < jr19> not you
19:02 < jr19> ports and his girlie ways
19:03 <+krisk> jr19 is an observant manly man
19:03 < jr19> and recently a bachelor
19:04 < Randomist> How did I do:  http://ia301537.us.archive.org/3/items/VirtualizedUniverse/ScottGarrett-VirtualizedUniverse_vbr.mp3
19:06 < ports> jr19, for now
19:07 < Joe_> oh shit
19:07 < ports> what
19:07 < Joe_> "Anyway, it came with windows vista pre installed. I decided that this computer isn't ready for vista yet, so I found my laptops' operating system installation cd, and just wiped out the c partition and installed windows xp on it. Now that I did that, my computer won't recognize my video card, my audio doesnt work, and I suspect the mobo isnt detected as well?"
19:08 < Joe_> i read this on a support forum
19:08 < ports> lol
19:08 < ports> insane in the membrane!
19:08 < ports> insane in the brain
19:08 < Joe_> insane either way
19:09 < ports> Joe_, its a song...
19:09 < jr19> lunch time
19:09 < Joe_> doesn't matter to me
19:09 < Joe_> yeah, i just had luch
19:09 < Joe_> chef boyardee
19:10 < ports> how old are you Joe_
19:10 < Joe_> 18
19:10 < Randomist> Apparently there is an age ceiling on Chef Boyardee.
19:11 < Randomist> After that, society expects you to migrate to Progresso.
19:11 < ports> Randomist, i just havent been near a can of chef boyardee since i was like 10
19:12 < Joe_> As long as I live with my family, i won't complain about the groceries mom buys
19:14 < ports> coke and lust
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19:20 < Barrett> alright, let's hope the dude fixed it
19:20 < Barrett> sounded like he knew what he was talking about
19:21 < ports> maybe
19:21 < ports> i cant believe its august
19:21 < ports> and im sitting in my office wishing i had a space heater
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19:27 < Randomist> ROFL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcWR9sjBy3A
19:34 < sir_lewk> nice
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20:01 < Barrett> I.
20:01 < Barrett> Hate.
20:01 < Barrett> Qwest.
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20:02  * Randomist gives Barrett:  "Johny Quest" theme.
20:03 < Peter_W> [efneTI86] The TI-86 shall reign Supreme, always and forever.
20:03 < Peter_W> seen PatrickD
20:03 <@efneTI86> PatrickD was last on IRC channel #tcpa 12 hours, 44 minutes ago.
20:03 < Randomist> Peter_W:  Until it dies for two weeks.
20:03 < Peter_W> lol
20:03 < Randomist> (Again.)
20:14 < ports> bsparks, hey
20:15 < ports> i just learned a new slang word for girl lady parts
20:15 < Peter_W> ahoy ye monkeys
20:16 < leofox> weeds is getting better all the time
20:18 < incubus> I honestly thought Peter_W was dead
20:18 < Peter_W> thanks >_>
20:18 < incubus> have you been on recently?
20:18 < Peter_W> no, not dead, just.. distracted
20:18 < incubus> Maybe I just haven't notice
20:18 < incubus> ah
20:18 < Peter_W> not for months
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20:19 < Peter_W> I stopped doing so much with calculators, and then there was college life and actual socialization
20:19 < Peter_W> then this summer I've been working
20:19 < Peter_W> but randomly dropping in seemed like fun :-P
20:19 < ports> incubus, hey
20:19 < ports> incubus, Phalanx 	 	0 (-5) 	 	Phalanx 	 	59 (-1)
20:19 < ports> 		Steam Giant 		2 (-0)
20:19 < ports> 		Mortar 		1 (-0)
20:19 < ports> 		Marksman 		4 (-0)
20:20 < ports> sorry! didnt mean to paste that
20:20 < Peter_W> haha
20:20 < Peter_W> !k ports paste fake-kick =P
20:20 < ports> http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46/Cameron4/bustanutomg.jpg  - thats what i mean to paste
20:20 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Peter_W] by efneTI86
20:21 < ports> i used to have bot access
20:21  * Peter_W grins and waits for the +m >_>
20:22 < leofox> ports holy shit i came
20:22 < ports> !k leofox
20:22 < leofox> ye rite
20:22 <+Peter_W> if I'd actually stayed around, I might be an op, but oh well.
20:22 < leofox> what do you expect with a pic like that
20:22 <+Peter_W> one has to actually be present for such things to matter :-)
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20:23 < ports> leofox, she hot huh
20:24 < jr19> oh hi
20:25 < leofox> she is
20:25 < leofox> I like the glasses
20:25 < DSP_Lord> jesus.
20:25 < DSP_Lord> her knees look like she's spent the past 2 years on them.
20:26 < leofox> she has good bj knees
20:26 < DSP_Lord> that would be what i was insinuating, yes.
20:26 < jr19> ports is playing ikariam again damn it
20:27 < ports> jr19, yes i am
20:27 < ports> jr19, i am punishing a player in the game for being a douchebag
20:28 < jr19> oh ok
20:28 < ports> shit... 1 in 150 babies could have autism..
20:28 < DSP_Lord> *could*
20:28 < ports> but only 1 in 100,000 children will grow up to be a professional golfer..
20:29 < ports> jr19, was growing up with autism rough for you?
20:29 < jr19> i might stop playing baseball and work on becoming a professional golfer
20:30 < jr19> i dont know what you're talking about
20:30 < ports> i was calling you autistic.
20:30  * ports face palms
20:31 <+Peter_W> he's probably just being sarcastic..
20:31 <+Peter_W> augh. not much more frustrating than misunderstandings, especially internet ones
20:31 < ports> Peter_W, in general when youre insulting someone and they don't understand... so annoying
20:32 <+Peter_W> actually, I'm pretty sure he was just being sarcastic
20:32 <+Peter_W> if not, then yes, you're justified :P
20:32 < Randomist> What do you expect on a text-base medium in which tone-of-voice is lost in the translation?
20:32 < Randomist> * text-based
20:33 < ports> Randomist, i expect people to act out each line out loud
20:33 < jr19> i was being sarcastic
20:33 <+Peter_W> bingo
20:33 < jr19> i was going to come back with some type of retard comment but then i got distracted and had to fix something
20:33 < ports> yeah
20:33 < ports> he was looking at the car instead of hot girl
20:34 < jr19> oh yeah
20:34 < jr19> the car was hot
20:34 < jr19> the girl was ok too
20:35 < ports> the volcano nachos for lunch were ok
20:35 < ports> i think i couldve done without the volcano sauce
20:35 < jr19> i hardly ever look at the bodies anymore because there are so many girls' pictures on the internet where they have hot bodies
20:35 < jr19> but i liked her face
20:36 < jr19> volcano sauce = win
20:36 < jr19> brb have to go do stuff
20:36 < ports> it tasted like cheese whiz today
20:36 <+Peter_W> jr19 = Internet desensitized.
20:36 < ports> what
20:36 < ports> megan fox
20:37 < ports> so dumb
20:37 -!- mode/#tcpa [-v Peter_W] by efneTI86
20:37 < ports> “I have no question in my mind about being bisexual. But I’m also a hypocrite: I would never date a girl who was bisexual, because that means they also sleep with men, and men are so dirty that I’d never want to sleep with a girl who had slept with a man.”
20:38 < Peter_W> graph theory applied yields: Spaghetti? Hrm...
20:38 < DSP_Lord> ...
20:38 < Andy_J> but if you're bi that means you'd sleep with a man directly
20:38 < DSP_Lord> megan fox said that, ports?
20:38 < ports> DSP_Lord, yep
20:38 < DSP_Lord> interesting.
20:39 < Randomist> That statement looks like it should have put a tear in the fabric of space-time.
20:39 < DSP_Lord> now they need to make a movie with her and some other hot woman in it, and let the cash roll in.
20:39 < ports> Randomist, yeah im surprised the radio announcers head didnt explode
20:39 < DSP_Lord> clearly the best money-making idea EVER.
20:39 < ports> DSP_Lord, done already
20:40 < ports> Mean Girls
20:40 < DSP_Lord> was there making out of hot women involved?
20:40 < ports> oh that was Lacey Chabert... also hot
20:40 < DSP_Lord> i think not.
20:40 < DSP_Lord> clearly, Megan Fox + some other hottie + making out == highest grossing movie ever.
20:40 < DSP_Lord> EVER.
20:41 < ports> Confessions of a Teenage Drama Queen (2004) 
20:41 < ports> thats the teeny bopper movie
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20:48 < jr19> ok back
20:48 < Peter_W> back, back I say!
20:48 -!- Peter_W [CalcKing@dialup1639.wnskvtao.sover.net] has quit [Quit: dialup, phone, no mixie]
20:48 < jr19> megan fox seems like a complete idiot
20:49 < ports> duh
20:49 < jr19> anyway, i liked that subaru
20:49 < ports> jr19, i just figured out the meters in the parking lot here at 10 hour meters... as opposed to the others on the street being 2 hours
20:50 < jr19> well done
20:50 < ports> yeah.. i can pay 4 hours at a time now for before/after lunch
20:50 < jr19> still sucks that you have to take the time to plug the meter
20:50 < ports> no
20:51 < ports> i have to rape the meter with a key
20:51 < ports> you insert the key... it adds 25 cents (20 minutes)
20:51 < ports> to get 4 hours.. i have to put it in at least 12 times
20:57 < jr19> ah
20:57 < jr19> 12 times and it is satisfied
20:57 < ports> yeah
20:57 < ports> i cant believe they took my spot
20:57 < ports> and now when i got back from lunch.. someone was parked in it too.. using the meter there
20:57 < ports> bastards
20:58 < jr19> i'm talking to this old lady on the phone
20:58 < ports> thats been my spot for 9 months
20:58 < jr19> she knows and an IP address is and everything, i'm somewhat impressed
20:58 < jr19> knows what*
20:59 < Andy_J> ports: seriously, shut the fuck up. we don't care about "your" parking spot
21:00 < ports> !k Andy_J no swearing.. it makes little kids cry.
21:00 < leofox> haha trying to kick Andy
21:00 < ports> i dont have bot access anymore
21:00 < ports> i forgot my password, if it still exists
21:01 < leofox> try to kick efneTI86
21:01  * ports kicks efneTI86
21:01 < leofox> say !k efneTI86
21:01 < ports> you do it
21:01 < leofox> why
21:01 < leofox> I already know what happens
21:02 < ports> leofox, show me
21:02 < leofox> want some get some
21:02 < ports> dimsum?
21:02 < leofox> pokemon
21:02 < leofox> I have gin and tonics
21:03 < ports> blergh
21:06 < Barrett> is it possible that getting a better modem can fix my bad connection problems?
21:06 < ports> Andy_J, why are you so angry?
21:07 < ports> Barrett, those things are pretty basic.. worth a try though.
21:07 < ports> Barrett, what kind of modem do you have now
21:07 < Barrett> actiontec m1000
21:07 < ports> id get something a little more namebrand
21:08 < jr19> motorola?
21:08 < ports> i have a Seimens? Speedstream
21:08 < Barrett> how hard is it to get a generic modem to work with qwest?
21:08 < ports> Barrett, thats a good question for the dslreports forum..
21:08 < Barrett> like... this modem's web interface has "Qwest" written all over it...
21:08 < ports> id fgure you can put in the username/password and be ready to go... the ISP should push out any settings you need
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21:11 < Tari> woo calcrogue
21:12 -!- millinao [~millinao@c-76-27-205-29.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa
21:13 -!- Netsplit hub.efnet.us <-> ircd.choopa.net quits: @Remius, DSP_Lord, tev, leofox, efneTI89, Grue`, JoelS, Tari, ports, filler,  (+15 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them)
21:16 < millinao> netsplitz
21:16 < Peter_W> wheee...
21:17 < Peter_W> s'okay, we don't care about them, do we? :)
21:18 <+j-b-r> LOLOLOLOL
21:18 <+j-b-r> I love netsplits
21:19 <+j-b-r> They are just awesome
21:19 -!- Netsplit over, joins: _Digital, al_b_back, sir_lewk, efneTI80, HelDragon
21:19 -!- Netsplit over, joins: DSP_Lord
21:20 <+j-b-r> Heh, I would say welcome back to all of you
21:20 -!- winston [~JasonRush@rdbk-13018.mtaonline.net] has joined #tcpa
21:20 -!- Netsplit over, joins: JoelS, ports, calc84, Tari, tev, +Netham45, Andy_J, jr19, efneTI89, Grue` (+6 more)
21:20 <+j-b-r> But it is really welcome back to me from your perspective
21:20 < jr19> is DSL the same?
21:20 <+j-b-r> DSL?
21:21 <+j-b-r> Oh, wait, you came back in the split
21:21 <+j-b-r> How was the alternate universe?
21:21 -!- Netsplit over, joins: filler, leofox
21:21 <+j-b-r> It was rather quiet in this one
21:21 < Andy_J> DSL is different, you use PPPoE most of the time
21:21 < jr19> i always thought it used pppoe or some crap, i've never owned a DSL connection before though
21:21 < Andy_J> which is user/pass
21:21 < jr19> i believe that's what barrett has, DSL through qwest
21:21 < Andy_J> I thought qwest was cable
21:21 < jr19> so i could see how he would be able to use a different modem
21:22  * ports crosses his arms.
21:22 < jr19> i dont think so, they only do DSL
21:22 < Andy_J> then nevermind
21:22 < ports> jr19, kthx
21:26 -!- Netsplit hub.efnet.nl <-> hub.efnet.us quits: DSP_Lord, +Goplat, Peter_W, al_b_back, efneTI80, _Digital, +Genolo, HelDragon, dankidd, @efneTI85,  (+3 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them)
21:27 -!- Netsplit over, joins: DSP_Lord, Peter_W, _Digital, BrandonW, @efneTI85, dankidd, +Genolo, +Goplat, incubus, al_b_back (+3 more)
21:27 <+j-b-r> LOL, what was that one?
21:27 < jr19> and there they go again on their own
21:27 <+j-b-r> Another little split?
21:27 < ports> j-b-r, hehe
21:27 <+j-b-r> I love these
21:28 < jr19> why's that
21:28 <+j-b-r> Netsplits are just awesome
21:28 <+j-b-r> They are like the separation and rejoining of little tiny alternate universes
21:29 -!- Merthsoft [~Shaun@140.141.36.207] has joined #tcpa
21:29 <+j-b-r> For at least a little while, another version of this channel existed where I did not
21:29 <+j-b-r> Isn't that... deep, or something
21:29 < Merthsoft> it's just a netsplit
21:29 -!- Genolo [~Geno@69.177.29.147] has quit [Ping timeout: 376 seconds]
21:30 <+j-b-r> It's fun, though
21:30  * jr19 gets out his trusty linklooker
21:30 < DSP_Lord> j-b-r: not really all that deep.
21:30 -!- incubus [incubus__@98.194.19.98] has quit []
21:30 <+j-b-r> Eh, whatever
21:30 <+j-b-r> It's something different
21:30 < jr19> HackTool.Win32.LinkLooker
21:30 <+j-b-r> (or maybe not so different depending on the network)
21:30 < jr19> "hack tool"
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21:34 < ports> jr19, i havent decided what to do for internet at the new apartment
21:36 -!- Genolo [~Geno@69.177.29.147] has joined #tcpa
21:36 < jr19> what
21:36 < jr19> steal someone elses?
21:36 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Genolo] by Remius
21:36 <+Genolo> what the hell was that
21:36 < ports> at&t is so weird..
21:37 < ports> jr19, do you remember i was getting a 50% discount on my $35/month 6mbps dsl. so it ws $17.50
21:37 < ports> they now raised it to $30.45
21:38 -!- incubus [incubus__@98.194.19.98] has joined #tcpa
21:38 < ports> so im getting 10% off for some reason
21:38 < jr19> ok...
21:38 < incubus> :D
21:38 < ports> but the discount was for 6 months.. i only for it for 4 months
21:38 < asmand> I
21:38 < asmand> I'm still not paying anything for my connection
21:39 < asmand> I've tried contacting them saying that, hey, where should I pay what, but no answer
21:39 < ports> lol
21:39 < ports> whas the number
21:40 < jr19> i should stop paying for mine
21:40 < jr19> mediacom bastards
21:41 < ports> im going to see if they can fix the bill
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21:48 < ports> lol
21:48 < ports> i told her i got the discount for months..  and shes like no you only got it for 3
21:48 < ports> ok at&t.. if you want to give me an extra month of a cheaper rate.. i wont complain
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21:54 <@efneTI92> [Randomist] The pycho has entered the channel.  Sound the alarms.
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21:58 < ports> k wow
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22:04 <@efneTI92> [Randomis1] The pycho has entered the channel.  Sound the alarms.
22:08 < ports> "A wish will be granted after a long delay"
22:08 < ports> says my fortune cookie
22:09 <+krisk> 80 years later...
22:09  * Randomis1 is liking the new KDE.
22:09 -!- Randomis1 is now known as Randomist
22:10 < leofox> it looks like windows 7
22:10 < Randomist> Windows Seven looks like it.  :P
22:10 < leofox> no
22:10 < leofox> they both look like a shitty mac ripoff based on windows XP
22:10 < Randomist> True.
22:11 < Randomist> It's got some useful things in its file manager and desktop.
22:11 < Randomist> * though
22:11 < leofox> IMO KDE 3 looks a lot like windows XP
22:11 < leofox> thats why I liked it
22:12 < ports> i dont wanna go to the gym today
22:12 < leofox> then dont
22:12 < leofox> go to KFC like a weak fat ass
22:12 < ports> your sister is attractive :P
22:13 < leofox> just like your mom
22:13 < jr19> go to kfc, yes
22:13 < leofox> i'd go to kfc
22:13 < leofox> but we dont have one
22:14 < ports> leofox, hows that an insult
22:14 < Randomist> I'd go to Popeye's, then KFC.
22:14 < leofox> ports were we insulting people?
22:14 < ports> i dunno
22:14 < Randomist> Get the chicken at the former and the biscuits at the latter.
22:15 < ports> but id do naughty things to your sister :P
22:15 < ports> so would incubus
22:15 < ports> he was dreaming about her the other night
22:15 < Randomist> But--
22:15 <+krisk> leofox when i was at mediamarkt i saw a movie called "<that kind of store i ment>  girl"
22:15 < leofox> TOKO GIRL?
22:15 < leofox> what
22:15 <+krisk> something like that
22:15 <+krisk> remember when you recently said she wasnt there any more
22:15 <+krisk> i think you used another word then
22:17 < leofox> dunno
22:17  * Randomist wonders what happened to that crazy guy whose name also started with an "I."
22:17 < jr19> lol "something like that"
22:17 < ports> my top desk drawer smells like glue
22:17 < ports> i fell asleep in it the other day
22:19 < jr19> you are a strange little man
22:19 < Randomist> I thought he was six-three?
22:19 <+krisk> more like 5
22:21 < leofox> why is there a movie called lesbian vampire killers
22:21 < leofox> you just cant do that
22:21 <+krisk> because im going to that
22:21 < ports> leofox, why are there not more?
22:21 < leofox> it's cheating to put that much awesome in the title
22:21 < ports> ok
22:21 < ports> im going to the gym
22:21 <+krisk> enjoy your curls
22:22 < ports> i do more than curls
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22:22 <+krisk> you should do shower curls
22:22 < ports> stop making up stupid names
22:22 <+krisk> i didnt make it up
22:23 < Joe_> I think I'm gonna make a fake antivirus program for the TI-83+
22:23 < ports> krisk, you did too
22:23 <+krisk> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEpfm6_OMW4
22:23 <+krisk> ^ shower curls
22:23 < ports> that video isnt real
22:23 < Joe_> I'll say it's fake somewhere in the readme :P
22:23 < Tari> I think I'm going to write Aineko in asm rather than C
22:24 < Tari> then I'm going to write an 83+ virus which hooks into linking and installs itself on connected calculators
22:24 < calc84> What was Aineko again? I completely forgot
22:24 < Tari> 83+ emulator for 68k
22:24 < calc84> oh yeah
22:24 < calc84> asm might be a good idea then :P
22:26 < Tari> it'll be fun :)
22:30 < Tari> signed char ofs = *(iPtr--) becomes move.b (a0)-,d0
22:30 < Randomist> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c70_1249334091
22:31 < Randomist> Haha at how many cops it took.
22:35 < leofox> oh wow
22:36 < mokomull> Tari: Instructions like that kindof surprise me from a RISC machine
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22:37 < Tari> it's really great
22:37 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Michael_V] by etaonrish
22:41 < incubus> Randomist, OMFG this is GREAT
22:41 < incubus> Towing services are a joke
22:42 < leofox> why is that a seperate company?
22:42 < incubus> He called 911, that was stupid
22:42 < incubus> That's just irresponsible
22:43 < Tari> http://www.superpoop.com/061609/tomato-garden.jpg
22:43 < calc84> hi Michael_V
22:43 < leofox> hah thats big
22:43 < leofox> nice camouflage
22:43 < Joe_> stfu incubus
22:43 < Joe_> sometimes you need a dispatcher
22:44 < incubus> Joe_, 911 is an emergency line
22:44 < incubus> you shut the fuck up
22:44 < Joe_> and it's perfectly legal to use 911 to report a crime
22:44 < Joe_> responsible too.
22:44 < Joe_> failure to report a crime IS a crime
22:45 < leofox> dont you have a seperate nr for that?
22:45 < leofox> over here we have 0800-8844 that just gives you the local police
22:45 < incubus> http://www.whentocall911.com/
22:45 < incubus> "Call 911 for Emergencies Only"
22:45 < Joe_> yeah leofox, but who remembers that?
22:46 < Joe_> 911 is perfectly acceptable
22:46 < leofox> Joe_: put it in your phone
22:46 < leofox> calling the emergency for no reason is a crime
22:46 < leofox> over here at least
22:46 < incubus> His circuit on 911 means that he's possibly queued with people who are dying
22:46 < incubus> or in trouble
22:47 < incubus> You should call the police department on their non emergency line if you have an issue or to report a crime
22:47 < Joe_> that website is only a suggestion. it's not defined in law, otherwise this penny business wouldn't have worked
22:47 < incubus> Do they say "REport a crime, call 911" ? No
22:47 < incubus> They call "Call our tips line"
22:47 < incubus> or "Call our ____ line"
22:48 < incubus> just my two cents, They put the call through and didn't care probably because it was a small town and they don't have an emergency every 5 seconds
22:48 < Joe_> so stfu incubus
22:48 < incubus> Joe_, who are you?
22:48 < incubus> honestly
22:48 < Joe_> a person
22:48 < leofox> he's the police
22:48 < Joe_> damn strraight
22:48 < Randomist> incubus:  EMERGENCY!!!  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZDIsCMLbPE
22:48 < incubus> He lives in houston
22:49 < incubus> I'll come over and kick your ass Joe_, then we'll see who is calling 911
22:49 < incubus> Randomist, exactly
22:50 < Joe_> a fast food's restuarant policies are not a FEDERAL crime
22:50 < Joe_> the tow truck service is sponsered by the government
22:50 < incubus> lol no it isn't
22:50 < incubus> are you kidding me
22:50 < Joe_> of course it is.
22:51 < incubus> sponsored by the govt? Please
22:51 < Joe_> it's used to enforce traffic laws
22:51 < incubus> They are private entities and are allowed to charge for their services
22:51 < Joe_> they're the ones who impound a vehicle, in the name of the law
22:51 < Joe_> or in the names of authorities in the name of the law
22:51 < Joe_> either way
22:52 < incubus> It's like a bounty hunter, is a bounty hunter sponsored by the law?
22:52 < Joe_> if hired by the law, yes.
22:52 < Joe_> but only then
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22:52 <+Michael_V> Does anyone want preview (pre-1.0) releases of TI Connect?
22:53 <+Michael_V> they're pretty ugly
22:53 < incubus> Joe_, I'm pretty sure they're just licensed
22:53 < incubus> not paid for
22:53 < incubus> Michael_V, :(
22:54 < calc84> I'm not sure if I want to look at that horror
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22:55 < incubus> Randomist, I want my fucking nuggets
22:55 < incubus> I will sue your ass
22:56 < Joe_> that was pretty damn illegal, actually
22:56 < Randomist> incubus:  http://www.freewebs.com/denvernuggetsforever/DenverNuggetsMainLogo.gif
22:56 < Joe_> 'ran out of nuggets, no refund'
22:57 < incubus> I'm confused about that
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22:57 < incubus> She ask for nuggets, paid for them, then said we have no nuggets, no money?
22:57 < Tari> hey Randomist, there's something horribly broken with tilp on AUR right now
22:57 < incubus> That is some bullshit
22:57 < incubus> I would be pissed
22:57 -!- Joe_ [Joe@c-98-200-31-25.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa
22:58 < Tari> involves versioning with libticables and libticalcs
22:58 < incubus> I would raise some shit
22:58 < Randomist> Tari:  I can't fix that.
22:58 < Tari> sigh
22:58 < Randomist> Tari:  Maintainer of those packages won't give it up.
22:58 < incubus> Joe_, That's crazy illegal
22:58 < Randomist> Or update the.
22:58 < Randomist> * them.
22:58 < Tari> guess I'll have to build those myself, then
22:59 < Joe_> incubus: the nuggets? yeah, I'm with ya on that one.
22:59 < Randomist> I think I posted the PKGBUILDs in the comments on them.
22:59 < Randomist> I forgot.
22:59 < Joe_> but granted, it might have not been the place for 911, though mabe 0 for operator.
23:00 < incubus> agreed
23:00 < incubus> dude I would be absolutely furious
23:00 < incubus> I worked at McDonalds when I was 17, We gave refunds sometimes if they didn't LIKE the food
23:00 < incubus> Must have been a ghetto ass palce
23:00 < incubus> place*
23:00 < Joe_> the question probably would have never come up for me, since I'd take the double in a heartbeat.
23:01 < incubus> lol
23:01 < incubus> you shouldn't have to pay for services not rendered
23:01 < Joe_> its like, nuggets or double?
23:01 < incubus> And taking someone's 4 dollars is fucking bullshit because it's small enough for them not to sue over
23:01 < Joe_> duh, double
23:01 < Joe_> truth
23:01 < incubus> It's like saying "Give me 4 bucks and I'll do this.  JK I won't, do something about it"
23:02 < incubus> The more you complain the more crazy you look
23:02 < Joe_> I still haven't been able to fix my graphics card
23:02 < Tari> I see a PKGBUILD in the comments on libticables2
23:02 < Tari> but the version of that package is ok
23:02 < Joe_> the comp automatically recognizes my nvidia as some VGA thing.
23:02 < incubus> Joe_, Dude hasn't it been broken for like a year?
23:02 < incubus> lol
23:03 < incubus> I remember this conversation from a LONG time ago
23:03 < Randomist> It's like when the RIAA sues people for exorbiant amounts of money that they'll never be able to pay in their lifespan, and they file bankruptcy.  And the RIAA spends millions of dollars just to sue the person.
23:03 < Joe_> I was working on another computert
23:03 < Tari> pkg-config won't see libticables2 when it's installed, but it sees libticables (which is the wrong version)
23:03 < Joe_> something totally different
23:03 < Joe_> I've been trying to fix this comp all damn day
23:03 < Joe_> but not a single thing I've done has worked
23:04 < Joe_> does anyone have any ideas?
23:05 <+Michael_V> what's the problem?
23:05 < Joe_> this computer recognizes this card as something completely different and makes up its mind on how it works before I can interject and go 'lol no'
23:05 < Randomist> Joe_:  Desolder the southbridge.  :)
23:06 < incubus> Randomist, ya kind of
23:06 < incubus> They sue to send a message though
23:06 <+Michael_V> Joe_: You need to go into the registry and delete some keys
23:06 < incubus> If you don't want to get sued, don't share anything you download
23:06 < Joe_> I'm trying to get my computer to recognize the graphics card for what it is, an nvidia gefore 2 mx
23:06 < Joe_> but it sees it as some VGA device
23:07 <+Michael_V> it's somewhere in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet
23:07 < Joe_> this isn't much of a problem, except it limits the available resolutions and i can't do the 3d stuff
23:07 <+Michael_V> hmm
23:07 < Tari> I'd say it's too old for its own good..
23:07 < Tari> that's a dx7 card
23:07 < incubus> Joe_, what OS
23:07 < Joe_> running windows 7 too :/
23:07 < incubus> hmm
23:07 < incubus> LOL
23:07 < incubus> WINDOWS 7 ON THAT?!?!!?!
23:08 < incubus> ouch man, just ouch
23:08 <+Michael_V> oh
23:08 <+Michael_V> well I have no idea
23:08 < Joe_> almost perfectly
23:08 < Tari> you won't be getting 3d out of that
23:08 < Joe_> damn
23:08 <+Michael_V> they used to be HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services
23:08 < incubus> Joe_, it sounds like a backwards compatibility issue
23:08 <+Michael_V> and you'd delete the entry so it would re-recognize it
23:08 < Tari> I doubt anyone has published drivers for that anytime recently, and you'd need all the dx7 libraries
23:08 < incubus> lol
23:08 < Joe_> Michael_V, i can successfully do that from device manaGER
23:09 < Tari> you might manage 3d with some really old games, but that's about it
23:09 <+Michael_V> deleting from device manager is not the same
23:09 < incubus> Microsoft Cut all backwards compatibility with DX10 I believe
23:09 < Joe_> durn
23:09 < incubus> or at least a ton of it
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23:09 < incubus> I bet you can't get DX 7 to work on Windows 7
23:09 < incubus> maybe though
23:09 < Tari> 8.1 is ok (with Morrowind)
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23:09 < incubus> I'm sure 8.1 will work
23:09 < Joe_> how about an earlier version of windows?
23:09 < incubus> should be fine
23:09 < Joe_> or linux?
23:09 < incubus> should be fine
23:10 < Tari> either
23:10 < Joe_> hmm
23:10 < Tari> xp is probably the latest windows it'll work with
23:10 < incubus> XP with DX9
23:10 < Joe_> probably
23:11 < bsparks> ahh, this is a good album :D
23:11 < Joe_> well, thanks for the info :/
23:12 < incubus> Tari, did you know you can beat morrowind in 15 minutes?
23:12 < incubus> er sorry, 7 minutes 30 seconds
23:12 < Joe_> I guess SOMETHING was bound to go wrong putting win7 on this thing. i'm surprised this was the only issue.
23:13  * Randomist goes off to work on more music.
23:15 < Joe_> I'm not even sure about what's all in here. it was custom when i got it :/
23:15 < incubus> wtf Morrowind > Oblivion? 
23:15 < incubus> nonsense
23:15 < Joe_> Oblivion is awesome
23:16 < incubus> I fucking love oblivion
23:16 < incubus> I still have so much to do in it
23:17 < incubus> Joe_, did you get all the houses in oblivion?
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23:33 < Joe_> incubus: no
23:33 < Joe_> I only play it on and off now
23:35 < Tari> both morrowind and oblivion I never got very far in
23:35 < Tari> just lost interest
23:35 < Tari> but I recently started morrowind again
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23:36  * Michael_V just finished organizing his 83+ and 73 folders
23:36 <+Michael_V> that only took all day
23:37 <+Michael_V> I had 10 years of putting things wherever to fix
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23:43  * Randomist needs to learn how to time-shift on a sample.
23:44  * Michael_V found another funny e-mail he's received
23:44 <+Michael_V> that I've probably pasted twice before
23:45 <+Michael_V> Hi,
23:45 <+Michael_V> I was wondering if I could get your advice:  My son was at Georgia Tech student, got himself
23:45 <+Michael_V> into some trouble while at GT, and is now at a detention center.  Because he was never in
23:45 <+Michael_V> any sort of trouble before and because he's got a great reputation and attitude, the
23:45 <+Michael_V> dentention center is allowing him to take a calculus course via email through a university. 
23:45 <+Michael_V> I have bought the ti 89 titanium.  What should I add to calculator before I send it to him
23:45 <+Michael_V> because he will not be able add anything once I send it to him?    He would like a couple
23:45 <+Michael_V> games as well.  He loves chess, and I saw the Chess v4.11.  How many programs can I
23:45 <+Michael_V> download?
23:45 <+Michael_V> Can you enter a formula and integrate?
23:45 <+Michael_V> Does it do partial derivatives?
23:45 <+Michael_V> Or, do I need to download an app?
23:45 <+Michael_V> Thanks,
23:45 <+Michael_V> Paulina
23:45 < Randomist> !k Michael_V Use Pastebin next time!
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23:45 < Randomist> :(
23:45 <+Michael_V> no one else is talking
23:45 <+Michael_V> Paulina has "too much information" syndrome
23:46 <+Michael_V> that or she wanted me to recommend an ebook of the anarchist's cookbook so he could break out
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23:47 < Randomist> Must be a cool parent.
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23:58 < V200> I.
23:58 < V200> Hate.
23:58 < V200> My.
23:58 < V200> Internet.
23:58 <@Nikky> :(
23:59 <@Nikky> it wuvs u
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