--- Log opened Sat Aug 01 00:00:00 2009
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00:51 < ports> hey
00:55 < ports> so hungry
01:14 <@_Auron_> http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3629/3456853681_8e9aa4ef98_o.jpg
01:16 < jr19> eat then
01:16 < incubus> lol
01:18 < leofox> doggie!
01:24 < jr19> style
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01:31 <@efneTI92> [Randomist] The pycho has entered the channel.  Sound the alarms.
01:36 < ports> Today, my friends and I decided to compare dick sizes one by one. I was last and I was the smallest. I was also the only Asian amongst my friends. They now call me "the stereotype". FML
01:36 < ports> so awesme :P
01:36 < Andy_J> Just once I wanted to get through a day without seeing a FML, but I tabbed over and saw one. FML.
01:37 < Andy_J> STOP POSTING THOSE HERE.
01:37 < ports> oh hes back
01:38 < ports> can someone put a cowbell on him or something so we know when hes around
01:38 < ports> will ferrel says MOAR COWBILL!
01:39 < Randomist> How was the vacation?
01:39 < ports> Randomist, i didnt go on vacation yet
01:39 < Andy_J> I'm just making sure the bots don't shit bricks.
01:39 < ports> yeah hes leaving again
01:39 < ports> the channel doesnt talk about enough calculator programming anymore
01:39 < Andy_J> so leave?
01:39 < Randomist> You missed the most important moment of calculator history.
01:40 < ports> nou
01:40 < jr19> yeah, i was here
01:40 < ports> i can haz cheez was here
01:40 < Andy_J> and what might that moment have been
01:40 < ports> we cant tell you.
01:41  * ports dances with his disco stick
01:41 < Randomist> The key is in the topic, so to speak.
01:41 < ports> that darn song is so catchy
01:41 < Andy_J> I do believe I was here when he pointed that out
01:41 < nicolas> yes, I believe you were
01:42 < Andy_J> and that I pointed him at wolfram alpha to see if those numbers were prime (they were)
01:43 < ports> oh its the other normal one
01:43 < ports> hi nicolas
01:44  * Randomist stabs Irssi for still putting white on white.
01:46 < Randomist> I need an LCD screen texture.
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01:53 < jr19> irssi is kewl
01:54 < Storm\_> Wait, what! We have TI's Key???
01:54 < mokomull> <3
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01:54 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v krisk] by etaonrish
01:55 < nicolas> wow, someone can read :)
01:55 < ports> hi nicolas
01:55  * Storm\_ goes to check the logs
01:55 < ports> anyone going to buy a car soon?
01:55 <+krisk> hi
01:56 <+krisk> define soon
01:56 < ports> the Cash for Clunkers Program ran out of money
01:56 < ports> krisk, you dont count.. this is US only
01:56 < ports> the US Govt is giving people $3500 or $4500 if they trade in a car that gets under 18mpg for a car that gets over 22mpg.
01:57 <+krisk> cool
01:59 < ports> yeah.. except they ran out of money in like a week
01:59 < ports> it was really popular
02:00 <+krisk> did it apply to any car >22mpg?
02:00 < ports> sort of.
02:00 <+krisk> what if it wasnt worth 3500?
02:00 < ports> ive seen a bunch of dealerships advertising it... but im sure they all did it. since they get federal money 
02:00 < ports> didnt matter
02:01 <+krisk> cool
02:01 < ports> people are bringing in like $500 shit cars
02:01 <+krisk> yeah i bet
02:01 < ports> and you get $3500 (22mpg) or $4500 (25 or 26mpg i think) towards a new car
02:01 <+krisk> cool beans
02:01 < ports> personally.. if it would have worked for me.. and i had the time.. id have gone to the junkyard and bought a shit car to trade in
02:02 <+krisk> exactly
02:02 < ports> but part of the problem with it was fraud
02:02 < Andy_J> that has been suspended due to lack of funds
02:02 <+krisk> ?
02:02 < ports> some dealers and turned around and resold the shitty cars they got from people
02:02 <+krisk> gay
02:02 < ports> yeah..
02:03 < ports> so a few days ago they announced that they wanted all the dealers to disable the cars by pouring some chemicals into the oil reservoir....
02:04 < Randomist> Storm\_:  You happen to know of a lightweight terminal that will let me set a background texture, but is not Xfce Terminal (it is buggy)?
02:09 < ports> this one time.. at band camp
02:10 <+krisk> i accidentally a whole flute
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02:13 <+krisk> oh yeha new burn notice ep
02:13 < ports> krisk, yeah.. it was ok
02:13 < ports> krisk, next weeks is going to be a lot better
02:13 < ports> im tired of this whole kidnap & interrogate people thing
02:14 < ports> but it was good to have a Barry centered episode
02:14 < Storm\_> Randomist, I agree XFCE terminal is crap but I really haven't used any others.
02:15 <+Michael_V> hmm where are the logs for #tcpa again?
02:15 < ports> Michael_V, dunno
02:15 < Storm\_> http://calcg.org/irclogs/tcpa/
02:16 <+krisk> barry centered ep? cool
02:16 < ports> krisk, yeah. some thugs steal barry's ledger that has all of his money laundering stuff written in it.
02:16 <+krisk> hehe
02:17 < ports> so michael & gang kidnap this guy and woman... and the guy pretends to be the boss.. but it turns out the woman is the boss..
02:17 < ports> and she escapes at the end.but they get michaels ledger back
02:17 <+krisk> :o
02:17 < ports> err barrys ledger
02:17 < ports> and the woman tries to shoot Fi
02:17 < ports> but escapes in a crowd of kids
02:17 <+krisk> fi ok?
02:17 < ports> michaels mom spies on a guy for another operation too..
02:17 < ports> so she gets involved
02:17 <+krisk> ghehe
02:17 < ports> there. done
02:18 <+krisk> her interrogation scene was awesome
02:18 <+krisk> hehe
02:18 < ports> episode spoiled.
02:18 <+krisk> care?
02:18 < ports> fucking douche
02:18 <+krisk> ?
02:18 <+krisk> was fi ok?
02:19 < ports> shes kidnapped and beaten up next week
02:19 < ports> bad guys take her so michael will come back
02:19 < ports> michaels getting back into the CIA
02:19 < ports> theyre reviewing his file now
02:19 <+krisk> hmm
02:19 <+krisk> yeha i know he made some deal with that annoying guy
02:19 < ports> you
02:19 <+krisk> that was what the previous ep ended with
02:20 <+krisk> my download is only going 600kBps for some reason
02:21 <+krisk> stupid capping ISP
02:22 < jr19> what does it usually go to
02:22 <+krisk> 2MBps
02:22 <+krisk> thats what I downloaded last week's ep with
02:22 < ports> lol
02:22 < ports> they must hate you
02:22 <+krisk> eh its a shit ISP
02:23 <+krisk> they throttle usenet specifically, http/ftp is fine
02:23 <+krisk> even ssl usenet connections
02:23 < ports> i want usenet
02:23 <+krisk> anything to known usenet provider servers i think
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02:27 < ports> jr19, guess what
02:27 < ports> imma be temporary CEO for the next week and half
02:27 < Randomist> Didn't Usenet get sued (again)?
02:27 <+krisk> cool
02:27 <+krisk> how would Usenet get sued?
02:27 < jr19> yeah you told me
02:27 < ports> Randomist, pirate bay
02:27 < jr19> like 3 days ago
02:27 < mokomull> Usenet isn't a single entity...
02:28 < Randomist> The big one at www.usenet.com.
02:28 < Randomist> Or whatever.
02:28 < jr19> wats a usenet
02:28 <@_Auron_> jermomz
02:28 < Randomist> Newsgroup server.
02:29 < Randomist> * servers
02:29 < ports> silly
02:29 < ports> jr19, so
02:30 < ports> i tell you again
02:30 < ports> jr19, that guy that i was taunting in the game.. he never responded
02:32 < jr19> maybe he doesnt care?
02:32 < ports> he will soon
02:32 <@E-J> tommorrow will be this again http://www.kuvaboxi.fi/julkinen/29qk9+ilkka-luoma-kaljakellunta.html
02:33 < ports> im going to take over that filipinos capital
02:33 <+krisk> time loop?
02:33 <@E-J> kaljakellunta = beer floating
02:33 <+krisk> silly finnish
02:33 <@E-J> people go to river vantaa with things that float and drink beer
02:33 <+krisk> cool
02:33 < ports> heard you on the radio'
02:34 <@E-J> http://www.kuvaboxi.fi/mediaobjects/orig/pub/2008/08/02/8143010478541404727orig.jpg i think this picture shows best what it is all about
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02:36 <+krisk> looks like fun E-J
02:36 <+krisk> im gonna buy a rubber boat and row it to finland and find that river
02:39 < jr19> a rubber boat
02:39 < jr19> like a raft?
02:40 <+krisk> like in the pic
02:40 <+krisk> an inflatable boat
02:40 <+krisk> a blowboat
02:41 < jr19> ok
02:42 <+krisk> heh a coffeeshop in a boat here is actually called blowboat
02:44 <+krisk> http://zip.4chan.org/tv/src/1249040957070.jpg
02:44 <+krisk> EPIC
02:46 <@E-J> krisk: http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msa=0&msid=113971769662679485640.000469b854b7a1aac2983&ie=UTF8&ll=60.283281,25.009003&spn=0.030379,0.077162&t=h&z=14
02:46 <@E-J> there is the route of that floating
02:47 <+krisk> brb rowing to finland
02:56 < jr19> oh finland
02:56 <+krisk> as long as you're burned you're not going anywhere
02:57 <+krisk> i always like the titles for the clients and enemies and such
02:59 < jr19> what
02:59 <+krisk> burn notice
02:59 < ports> haha
02:59 < ports> yeah
02:59 < ports> what was it last week
02:59 <+krisk> it used to just say 'the client'
02:59 < ports> Quentin Something
02:59 < ports> "THe man behind the man"
02:59 <+krisk> yeah
02:59 <+krisk> haha
02:59 < ports> a few weeks ago.. it said some name then something like "The idiot"
02:59 <+krisk> Strickler 'Mike's ticket back in'
03:00 <+krisk> yeah
03:00 < ports> yeah
03:00 <+krisk> fun
03:00 < ports> jr19, so whenever a new character is introduced on Burn Notice.. they pause the screen on the person... show their name... and a description of who they are underneath
03:00 < ports> it used to just say "Brother" or "The Client" .... now it says funny things
03:00 < ports> "Sleezy arms dealer"
03:01 < ports> what did it say for the black guy when he got trapped in the jungle with the russians
03:01 <+krisk> there were funnier ones than those we just mentioned
03:01 <+krisk> i cant remember them really
03:01 <+krisk> :(
03:01 < jr19> oh ok
03:01 < ports> krisk, google for it.. i bet someone is writing them all down
03:01 <+krisk> oh yeah cool
03:02 <+krisk> well im watching it now
03:02 <+krisk> oh yeah jr19 usually its something theyve just said to introduce it
03:02 <+krisk> like theyre talking about someone saying 'poor smuck who needs help' and itll say that on the title too
03:02 < ports> yheah
03:03 <+krisk> Mike: Fi, he's my ticket back in. Title: Strickler 'Mike's ticket back in'
03:03 < jr19> maybe i'll watch the show sometime and observe it
03:03 <+krisk> you should
03:04 <+krisk> its a fun show
03:04 <+krisk> http://cliqueclack.s3.amazonaws.com/tv/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/burnnoticesubtitle-425x243.png
03:04 <+krisk> examplos
03:05 < jr19> hmm
03:06 < ports> Diego Garza
03:06 < ports> The spy michael's looking for
03:06 <+krisk> Amy
03:06 <+krisk> Barry's "Special Lady"
03:09 < ports> i could go for another redbull
03:10 <+krisk> ugh energy drinks
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03:16  * Randomist gets bored and goes to writing music.
03:21 < jr19> cuz it doesnt remind me of anything
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03:26 < BrandonW> Barrett, 83+ OS public key cracked.
03:27 < BrandonW> Pass it on.
03:27 < BrandonW> Beat ticalc.org to the punch.
03:27 < Barrett> eh
03:27 < BrandonW> You already have technically since I posted about it, but it deserves a double mention.
03:28 < Barrett> there are certain things that would make me nervous posting about
03:28 < Barrett> since I really like the link to my site on education.ti.com
03:30 < incubus> BrandonW, what function does the OS public key serve
03:34 < jr19> you dont have to use any extra software to load your own OS
03:34 < Barrett> BrandonW: too late... ticalc beat me to it
03:35 < ports> no
03:36 < Barrett> BrandonW: did you verify that it's correct?
03:36 < jr19> maybe its april fools in july
03:36 < ports> no jerk
03:36 < ports> its christmas in july
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03:37 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Michael_V] by efneTI80
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03:38 <@efneTI92> [Storm\_] Yes rivereye, it is time to go fishing.
03:38 <+Michael_V> n=82EF4009ED7CAC2A5EE12B5F8E8AD9A0
03:38 <+Michael_V> AB9CC9F4F3E44B7E8BF2D57A2F2BEACE
03:38 <+Michael_V> 83424E1CFF0D2A5A7E2E53CB926D61F3
03:38 <+Michael_V> 47DFAA4B35B205B5881CEB40B328E58F
03:38 <+Michael_V> p=B709D3A0CD2FEC08EAFCCF540D8A100BB38E5E091D646ADB7B14D021096FFCD
03:38 <+Michael_V> q=B7207BD184E0B5A0B89832AA68849B29EDFB03FBA2E8917B176504F08A96246CB
03:38 <+Michael_V> e=11
03:38 <+Michael_V> d=4D0534BA8BB2BFA0740BFB6562E843C7
03:38 <+Michael_V> EC7A58AE351CE11D43438CA239DD9927
03:38 <+Michael_V> 6CD125FEBAEE5D2696579FA3A3958FF4FC54C685EAA91723BC8888F292947BA1 
03:38 <+Michael_V> just so it's in the log
03:38 <+Michael_V> I suspect someone has already done this
03:38 < mokomull> hah
03:38 <@_Auron_> rofl
03:38 < mokomull> well now it'll be mirrored across like three of my machines :D
03:38 <+Michael_V> spread the word
03:38 <+Michael_V> we should hire graffiti artists to paint this on sidewalks
03:38 < Barrett> someone submitted it to slashdot?  this kind of stuff always ends up there
03:39 <+Michael_V> oh, not that I know of
03:39 <+Michael_V> I should do so now
03:39 <+Michael_V> I'll go do so
03:39 < Barrett> but wait, has it been verified?
03:39 < Barrett> BrandonW?
03:39 <+Michael_V> yes
03:39 <+Michael_V> it has
03:39 <@_Auron_> yes
03:40  * mokomull wonders if this violates the DMCA ... then again, the signing key isn't a copy protection mechanism...
03:40 <+Michael_V> shut up or I'll kick you
03:40 < mokomull> <3
03:41 <+krisk> anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
03:41 <+Michael_V> hmm
03:41 <+Michael_V> what section is this under?
03:42 < Barrett> Michael_V: it's not like news articles are in the right section on slashdot anyway
03:42 < Barrett> you might as well put it under "Your Rights Online"
03:42 <@_Auron_> krisk: the fuck?
03:42 <+Michael_V> or developers?
03:42 <@_Auron_> I'm either more tired than I thought or you just typed garbage.
03:43 < Barrett> _Auron_: garbage
03:43 < jr19> krisk: wat
03:43  * Michael_V thinks he's going to burst from excitement
03:43 <+Michael_V> asdl;ifhals;f;sajfa;sfas
03:43 <+Michael_V> fasfdjskafu89asfydsoafdsa
03:43 <+Michael_V> OS KEY
03:43 <@_Auron_> okay good, because I'm dyslexic as well and .. damn that was next to impossible to read
03:46 < mokomull> BrandonW: I just realized, you're going to be dangerous one of these days if you ever get into computer / information security :D
03:46 < Barrett> Nikky: here?
03:47 <+krisk> http://cgi.4chan.org/gif/src/1249005953096.gif
03:47 <@_Auron_> krisk: wtf
03:48 < mokomull> SFW?
03:48 < Andy_J> Michael_V: I thought you retired yesterday? :P
03:48 < ports> BrandonW, hey.. where do you work?
03:48 <+Michael_V> Andy_J: sssh
03:48 <+Michael_V> I only semi-retired anyway
03:48 < ports> Andy_J, werent you leaving earlier?
03:48 <+Michael_V> I'm in the active adult calculator community
03:48 <+krisk> SFW
03:48 < mokomull> Michael_V retired?
03:48 <+Michael_V> shuffleboard and keno on the 83+
03:48 <@_Auron_> mokomull: yes and no
03:48 <@_Auron_> at the SFW
03:49 <@_Auron_> and, I'm passing out now
03:49 < ports> its no SFW
03:49 < ports> mokomull, NSFW
03:49 < Andy_J> it's 4chan, of course it's NSFW
03:49 <+krisk> the gif itself is sfw though
03:49 < ports> krisk, not really
03:49 < mokomull> :D
03:49 < mokomull> eh, it wasn't too NSFW for me
03:50 < ports> in most workplaces.. you arent supposed to be looking at videos/stuff online period
03:50 <+krisk> http://cgi.4chan.org/gif/src/1249052226228.gif
03:51 < mokomull> ports: I'm in software development, no one cares wtf I do with the computer
03:52 <+krisk> http://94.100.113.47/667750001-667800000/667796101-667796200/667796125_6_PoAn.jpeg
03:53 < jr19> software. engineer.
03:54 < ports> mokomull, youre a student :P
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03:55 <+krisk> <mokomull> ports: I'm a student, no one cares wtf I do
03:55 <+krisk> fixed?
03:55 < ports> Andy_J, yo mamma..
03:55 < ports> krisk, lol
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03:59 < Andy_J> ports: I think this channel is fed up with your incessant and unprovoked abuse of other members of the channel. I must urge you to cease and desist.
03:59 < Andy_J> Or you shall face the consequences.
04:00 <+krisk> woah sounds like someone needs to boost his ego again
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04:02 < Baggins> Hey
04:03 < Baggins> I've archived everthing I can on my 84+SE but I can't free enough RAM to run Gemini
04:03 < Baggins> What else can I do to free up ram?
04:03 <+Michael_V> slashdot story submitted
04:03 <+Michael_V> you probably have too many programs
04:03 <+Michael_V> Every program, even archived, takes a few bytes of RAM to store the name
04:03 < Baggins> oh
04:03 <+Michael_V> do you have hundreds?
04:04 < Baggins> only 30 or so
04:04 <+Michael_V> oh
04:04 < Baggins> but I only need about 300 more bytes of ra,
04:04 <+Michael_V> have you checked in the memory screen to make sure you deleted everything from RAM?
04:04 < Baggins> ram*
04:04 <+Michael_V> lists, matrices, etc.
04:04 < Baggins> yeah
04:05 <+Michael_V> everyone go to slashdot
04:05 <+Michael_V> click recent
04:05 <+Michael_V> vote up the TI-83+ key story
04:06 < Baggins> I'll backup and reset
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04:07 < Andy_J> done
04:07 < Andy_J> as much as I ignore /. these days :p
04:07 <+Michael_V> if it had more calculator news, you wouldn't ignore it :)
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04:08 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v \\BAF\IRC] by efneTI80
04:08 < leofox> I think I crashed the site
04:09 <+Michael_V> who runs united ti?
04:09 < leofox> Jon
04:09 <+Michael_V> Jon who?
04:09 < leofox> AlienCC
04:10 <+Michael_V> someone should warn him
04:10 <+Michael_V> slashdotting possibility
04:10 <+Michael_V> time to mirror, mirror, mirror or put the thread static
04:11 <+krisk> haha slashdot will take down his server
04:11 <+krisk> i give it 20 minutes
04:11 < leofox> the server is pretty good
04:11 < leofox> but i'll try to warn him on IRC
04:11 < Andy_J> that dual pentium pro still chugging along?
04:11 <+Michael_V> yes
04:11 <+Michael_V> ticalc.org runs fine
04:11 <+krisk> it has gone down before from /.
04:11 <+Michael_V> slashdottings are no problems
04:12 < Andy_J> ;)
04:12 < Andy_J> more sites need to be like that
04:12 <+Michael_V> think smarter, not faster
04:12 < Andy_J> yeah
04:12 <+krisk> or both
04:12 <@E-J> hmm, why i can't see that mv's post
04:12 < Andy_J> apparently /. likes me enough to let me disable ads
04:12 < Andy_J> dunno why, I've been inactive for like 2 years
04:13 < Andy_J> and even when i was active it was barely
04:13 <@E-J> i have been inactive always
04:17 <@E-J> Andy_J: http://www.wrc.com/jsp/index.jsp?lnk=405&season=2009&rally_id=FIN on pos 17 is some name that even you might recognise
04:18 <@E-J> overall pos
04:18 < Andy_J> heh
04:19  * Michael_V was supposed to be summarizing nanotechnology law related documents all morning but instead has just sort of been jumping around with a demented happy look on his face
04:19 <+Michael_V> ah the power of the 83+
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04:22 <+Michael_V> welcome to #tcpa
04:22 <+Michael_V> please go to slashdot
04:22 <+Michael_V> click recent
04:22 <+Michael_V> vote up the article about the 83+ OS key
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04:29 < bsparks> hell yeah rockin out chiptunes on a 500w system :D
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04:32 < BrandonW> Holy crap, it's on Slashdot?
04:32 <+Michael_V> submitted
04:32 <+Michael_V> you need to vote it up
04:32 < BrandonW> On it.
04:32 < BrandonW> I'll get the guys at work to do it, too.
04:32 <+Michael_V> you click recent and then the +
04:32 <+Michael_V> good
04:34 < BrandonW> This is so great.
04:34 <+Michael_V> if it gets posted, you can join the "twice on slashdot for calculators" club :)
04:35 < BrandonW> :)
04:35 <+Michael_V> Dan and I are the only members so far :)
04:35 <+Michael_V> I want this on my tombstone
04:35 <+Michael_V> "TWICE FEATURED ON SLASHDOT"
04:36 <+Michael_V> I wonder if Benjamin is expecting all of this :)
04:36 < BrandonW> He has to know I'd freak out.
04:36 < BrandonW> And see it.
04:36 < BrandonW> Why else would he post on United TI?
04:38  * Michael_V wonders if TI executives are running to the restrooms yet
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04:38 < mtgrss111> what is on slashdot?
04:38 < BrandonW> What I wouldn't give to see the look on their faces.
04:38 <+Michael_V> BrandonW: I bet they've been betting on it for years
04:38 <+Michael_V> like how they bet whether anyone would run ASM on the 85
04:39 <+Michael_V> that doesn't mean they're happy of coures
04:39 < mtgrss111> what is on slashdot?
04:39 < mtgrss111> what is on slashdot?
04:39 <+Michael_V> *course
04:39 < mtgrss111> what is on slashdot?
04:39 < mtgrss111> :/
04:39 < bsparks> !k mtgrss111 floodspam
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04:39 <+Michael_V> but with computing power increasing, it's a matter of time
04:39 <+Michael_V> I feel like an idiot really
04:39 < BrandonW> You beat me to it.
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04:39 <+Michael_V> we never revisted the possibility of cracking it
04:39 <+Michael_V> *revisited
04:39 <+Michael_V> I looked at it in 2001 and it was impossible for me to do then
04:39 < bsparks> mtgrss111, go to /. and click recent and you'll see
04:40 < mtgrss111> Actually, I'd rather someone give me a link :P
04:40 < bsparks> lazy bum
04:40 <+Michael_V> it's still difficult to crack today though
04:40 < mtgrss111> Hey, if you want the vote.....
04:41 <+Michael_V> that's why I want ot know how he did it
04:41 <+Michael_V> *to
04:45 < BrandonW> We need to apply this to all the other keys.
04:45 < BrandonW> 0102, 000A, 010A, 0002...
04:45 < BrandonW> The date stamp public keys...
04:45 < BrandonW> Everything.
04:45 <+Michael_V> 000A first
04:45 < BrandonW> Why?
04:46 < BrandonW> The 84+/SE will accept 04.
04:46 <+Michael_V> well unless you think the 73 is more important
04:46 < BrandonW> The 73 Flash application key is more important. We forever have the battery trick for the 73.
04:46 <+Michael_V> ah
04:46 <+Michael_V> good idea
04:46 <+Michael_V> 010A then
04:46 <+Michael_V> err
04:46 <+Michael_V> 0102
04:46 <+Michael_V> I wouldn't even bother with 0002
04:46 <+Michael_V> unless last
04:46 <+Michael_V> and you have nothing else to do
04:47 <+krisk> neurolinguistic programming is pretty interesting
04:47 < BrandonW> Same with 000A.
04:48 < BrandonW> I absolutely have to go to work now, but I'll spread the word and get more votes.
04:48 <+krisk> http://94.100.114.134/667800001-667850000/667819801-667819900/667819865_6_Ty-c.jpeg
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05:00 < leofox> krisk krisk krisk
05:00 < leofox> come to Enschede
05:01 < leofox> only 2,5 hours by train
05:01 < Storm\_>   hmm it seems /. article is already gone from recent :?
05:02 <+Michael_V> no
05:02 <+Michael_V> I see it
05:02 < leofox> slashdot is slow as hell
05:02 < leofox> stupid javascript
05:03 < Storm\_> leofox, its most likely your browsers fault since its mostly javascript
05:03 < leofox> Opera is supposed to be fast with JS
05:04 < leofox> it's better on Chrome but it's still shit
05:04 < Storm\_> Its working pretty fast for me in FF
05:04 < leofox> they're using way too much javascript
05:05 < Storm\_> meh w/e as long as it works and isn't in flash I couldn't care less
05:06 <+Michael_V> it's slow for me too
05:07 <+krisk> sup leofox
05:07 <+krisk> buy me a helicopter
05:08 < leofox> krisk if i had money for that
05:08 < leofox> i'd buy one myself and go to almere
05:08 <+krisk> what is in enschede tonight
05:08 < leofox> nothing
05:08 <+krisk> oh
05:08 < leofox> getting stoned at my place, dunno
05:09 <+krisk> ohlol
05:09 <+krisk> i dont want to get stoned as that being the main activity of the night
05:09 < leofox> my flatmates are all like BAWW we have to drive to berlin tomorrow
05:09 < leofox> krisk meh, true
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05:12 <@E-J> leofox: normally they drive from berlin to netherlands (by tanks) so you do opposite
05:14 <+Michael_V> tanks?
05:14 <+Michael_V> sounds like World War II
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05:19 < leofox> E-J im not going to drive to berlin
05:19 < leofox> my flatmates are
05:19 < leofox> im going to take the train to prague later
05:19  * Randomist stabs Flash -- and every web site that depends on it in some way -- many, many times.
05:22 < bsparks> I wonder what makes boss music, sound like boss music
05:23 < Randomist> Waveforms?
05:29 < Randomist> Oh, dear $deity.  http://hannahmontana.sourceforge.net/Site/Home.html
05:30 < Randomist> Ubuntu seems to have a derivative for every single theme change.
05:31 < j-b-r> Ok, who wants to help me run a python script on windows?
05:31 < j-b-r> I have python installed, now how do I make it go?
05:31 < jr19> double click it
05:31 < Randomist> "C:\path\to\python.exe" "path\to\script?"
05:31 < jr19> or that too
05:32 < jr19> but i'm pretty sure when you install python, .py becomes associated with the interpreter or whatever
05:33 < Baggins> Hey
05:33 < Baggins> I got Gemini working
05:33 < Baggins> but when I run it it goes on an angle
05:34 < Baggins> does anyone know how to fix that?
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05:36  * asmand is baking a cake
05:36 < Randomist> Liar.
05:38  * Randomist is now hungry.  >.>
05:38 < Randomist> Thanks a lot.
05:39 < asmand> watching biggest loser at the same time :D
05:41 <@E-J> i'm watching kalevan kisat
05:43 <@E-J> tomorrow is brother's bachelor party
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06:12 < asmand> hmm... I haven't done anything in the TI scene since 2004
06:12 < asmand> or perhaps 2003
06:13 < asmand> and still I'm 19th most dowloaded the past 7 days :)
06:14 < bsparks> so, some state lawmaker guy here wants to pass a law, going one step past handsfree while driving. He wants nobody to talk on the phone in any way while driving :o
06:17 < Storm\_> !seen Peter_W
06:17 <@efneTI86> Peter_W (CalcKing@dialup1844.wnskvtao.sover.net) was last seen quitting from #tiasm 1 day, 20 hours, 56 minutes ago stating (dial-up is the pits).
06:26 < Randomist> Didn't two people die already because of something about the new iPhone?
06:26 < Randomist> One dude commited suidide, and the other dude fell out of a window or something like that?
06:27 < mokomull> bsparks: I'd agree with that, actually... even with hands-free devices, when I'm on the phone, I still don't really know what's goin gon
06:27 < Storm\_> mokomull, but you can always put the phone down
06:27 < mokomull> Storm\_: But people don't.  Hell, people even put makeup on while they're driving...
06:28 < Andy_J> or text
06:28 < Andy_J> I would not want a "no phones at all" while driving law
06:28 < Andy_J> what's next, no talking to passengers?
06:28 < bsparks> Randomist, a worker at Foxconn was tortured because he lost an iPhone prototype, apparently he had a history of this
06:28 < bsparks> He was dishonoured to his family by the company, and thus, he jumped out of a window
06:28 < Storm\_> I agree texting is the worse thing to do while driving but I can talk and drive jsut fine
06:28 < Andy_J> ^
06:29 < bsparks> Same
06:29 < Andy_J> if you outlaw handsfree on phones then you need to outlaw passengers
06:29 < Andy_J> one person per car
06:29 < bsparks> everyone has to drive motorcycles
06:29 < Andy_J> people without a license are fucked, they have to walk everywhere
06:29 < Andy_J> busses can't be driven
06:29 < Storm\_> lol think of the traffic
06:29 < Andy_J> way to ruin public transit
06:29 < bsparks> Andy_J, sure busses can
06:29 < bsparks> they just can't pick anyone up
06:29 < Storm\_> lol
06:29 < Andy_J> defeats the point
06:30 < bsparks> we could have 'commuter' cars, where I'd drive a car to point B from point A, and someone else drives that same car to point C from point B, and eventually it gets back to point A? idk
06:30 < Andy_J> the point is, that guy's an idito
06:30 < Andy_J> *idiot
06:31 < bsparks> Andy_J, no shit :) he's also republican :D
06:31 < Andy_J> heh
06:31 < Andy_J> that explains that
06:31  * Andy_J hides from the bleeding-heart republicans in the office
06:31  * Storm\_ resits commenting on the current party in power
06:31 < Andy_J> dems are better than repbuclicans at least
06:32 < Storm\_> I disagree but I'm gonna stay out of this one
06:32 < Andy_J>  Excepted are Bed Bath & Beyond and Republicans which receive unenthusiastic and scattered "fuck yeah" chants,
06:32 < Andy_J> ^ America, Fuck Yeah
06:32 < bsparks> the way I figure it, think of america as a building, each current office has to keep it maintained, and in order. By the time the reps left office it was falling down, and the only took they gave the dems was a sledgehammer :D
06:36 < Storm\_> ok thats jsut weird I made a shell script named battery and Thunar automatically gave it a battery icon..
06:37 < Spengwork> what the heck is stroids
06:37 < bsparks> _Auron_'s game
06:37 < Spengwork> asteroids clone?
06:37 < bsparks> I dunno
06:37 < Storm\_> yeah
06:37 < bsparks> it looks like Asteroids meets an acid trip
06:37 < Storm\_> It sounded similar to Geometry Wars
06:39 < Spengwork> oh that would be cool
06:39 < Randomist> http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/ticalc.org
06:40 < bsparks> wait, gmail can fetch accounts using POP3 _and_ IMAP?
06:40 <@E-J> almost 666 sites linking in
06:41 < Spengwork> bsparks, yeah...
06:41 < Andy_J> since when
06:41 < Randomist> Since a really long time.
06:41 < bsparks> When I just set it up to fetch for me from ijuln it said pop3 only
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06:41 <@E-J> http://kuukunen.net/cgi-bin/aaa?lol=ticalc.org
06:41 < Spengwork> o, I dunno
06:42 < Merth|G1> tari
06:42 < Storm\_> I never really cared for gmail, I prefer using client based interfaces, IE Thunderbird
06:42 < Merth|G1> grr
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06:42 < Storm\_> Merth|G1, I think hes not up yet
06:43 < Storm\_> Aim says he's still away
06:43 < Spengwork> I like the way gmail puts all replies to an email as one thing
06:43 < bsparks> Storm\_, I still use gmail to fetch my other email accounts, then I can fetch from that
06:43 < Spengwork> then you have an online backup of everythign in one place
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06:44 < Storm\_> yeah I thought about doing that but as soon as I had my AOL account linked to gmail spammers hijacked it. I'll jsut stick with Thunderbird for now
06:45 < Randomist> Alpine for the win.
06:45 < Spengwork> lol AOL
06:46 < Spengwork> Storm\_, I meant like, from non-free hosts
06:46 < Randomist> (The e-mail/newsgroup client; not the speakers.  :P)
06:46 < Spengwork> school email, work email, etc.
06:47 < Storm\_> Spengwork, I use free AOL, but It used to be paid like forever ago, the issue is i like the email address I have there
06:47 < bsparks> google needs to make a gmail desktop app, I swear
06:48 < Randomist> KDE probably already has that.
06:48 < bsparks> Randomist... ...
06:48 < Storm\_> bsparks, I've just never cared for gmail and when I tried it out it got hacked so yeah, I'll stick with AOL for now.
06:49 < bsparks> hehe
06:49 < bsparks> that's funny :)
06:49 < bsparks> I've had the opposite experience probably 10 times over
06:49 < Andy_J> Storm\_: sounds like an ID10T
06:49 < Randomist> 20% ... 30% ... 40% ... 50% ... %60 ... %70 ... %80 ... %90 ... 100%.
06:50 < Storm\_> Andy_J, and my AOL spam folder is broken so I have no anti spam whatsoever but I really don't care since thunderbird does a good job taking care of it
06:51 < bsparks> Storm\_, I'd probably use thunderbird, if I could get a gmail-esque interface :)
06:52 < Storm\_> lol, I also had issues with gmail + thunderbird but that's another story
06:52 < Andy_J> thunderbird is mozilla and they lost all of my trust with the firefox 3.5 scanning directories it has no business in in the name of "security"
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06:52 < bsparks> Andy_J, I lost trust in Mozilla back with FX 3.0
06:53 < Storm\_> what are you guy's opera users?
06:53 < bsparks> back when they abandoned any user-set theme preferances at all, not just aftermarket ones
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06:54 < bsparks> Storm\_, I'm in a transitionary phase. I mainly use Safari 4 beta [ the offical 4.0 removed the tabs on the title bar ] I also use Sunrise and Stainless, and every now and then I will fire up Camino
06:54 < asmand> E-J: I bought the belkin cushtop today
06:54 <@E-J> asmand: is it good
06:54 < Andy_J> opera and safari
06:54 < asmand> I've tried it for 1 minute, so I don't have an opinion yet
06:54 < Storm\_> bsparks, wait you use safari over FF?
06:55 < bsparks> Storm\_, seeing how it uses less than half the RAM and maybe a quarter of my processing cycles, yeah. I'd use Safari
06:55 < Storm\_> I personally can't stand Safari, though I use Opera on everthing that doesn't have a x86 based proc
06:55 < bsparks> Opera is an eyesore 
06:55 < leofox> Opera is great
06:56 < leofox> I dont like how it's become slower over the years while everything else has become faster
06:56 < asmand> E-J: it was lighter and harder than I imagined
06:56 < asmand> which is a good thing
06:57 < leofox> it looks big
06:57 < Storm\_> leofox, opera seems to have gotten faster on slower machines and slower on faster machines which makes no sence
06:58 < leofox> yeah
06:58 < leofox> Opera used to startup almost instantly on my old box
06:58 < leofox> way faster than firefox
06:58 < leofox> now they are more or less tied
06:58 < leofox> ok, I just tried and firefox is still a lot slower
06:58 <@E-J> asmand: have you seen this http://ehdokkaat.info/motivaatio.jpg
06:59 < leofox> but Opera is still beaten by Chrome and IE
06:59 < Storm\_> heh I still install opera on my Old Windows boxes, IE 98, win2000
07:00 <@E-J> leofox: have you checked speeds with this http://service.futuremark.com/peacekeeper
07:00 < leofox> javascript tests are silly
07:01 < leofox> wtf
07:01 < leofox> how did this happen
07:01 <@E-J> fastest in this machine has been shiretoko 3.5b4pre = ff3.5
07:01 < leofox> I never gave it permission to run an installer
07:02 < Storm\_> lulz it crashed in my version of shiretoko
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07:14 <@E-J> ah, shiretoko 3.5.1 made 1484, new record
07:15 < jr19> world record!
07:15 <@E-J> nah, just my record
07:16 <@E-J> apparently wr is 7566 with chrome
07:18 < jr19> heh
07:18 < jr19> therefore, everyone should use chrome, and bow to google
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07:23 < Storm\_>  \n
07:23 < Storm\_> whoops
07:27 <@E-J>  
07:28 < Storm\_> yeah thats what I was trying to do but not in this window
07:28 < leofox> 2101 with chrome
07:29 < Randomist> PNG is weird.
07:29 < Storm\_> google really needs to make a *nix version of chrome
07:29 < asmand> Storm\_: there is
07:29 < jr19>  
07:30 < Randomist>  Chromium.
07:30 < asmand> it's in dev branch, really unstable
07:30 < asmand> but available
07:30 < Randomist> http://wintervenom.brandonw.net/Scott%20Garrett/Images/Screenshots/ - how does one come out 130k, but the other one comes out 900?
07:30 < Storm\_> more colors
07:31 < Storm\_> or less PNG can do fun stuff like that 
07:32 < Storm\_> yeah I bet that one has less than 256 colors so it can be much smaller
07:37 < sir_lewk> whoah, the signing key for 83+ OSs was cracked
07:37 < sir_lewk> madness, how was that managed?
07:37 < Storm\_> lol old news :P
07:37 < sir_lewk> pfft, I've been running around campus all day
07:38 < Storm\_> sir_lewk, we're not sure
07:38 < Storm\_> Ben Moody has yet to tell how he did it
07:38 < Randomist> He won the lottery.  'Nuff said.
07:39 < Storm\_> but yeah he somehow managed to crack it and BrandonW verified that it was correct
07:40 < incubus> lol
07:40 < Randomist> Hello, random man.
07:40 < jr19> he went dumpster diving maybe
07:41 < Storm\_> Micheal_V and BrandonW have been going crazy ever since
07:43 < incubus> where the fuck is BrandonW
07:43 < incubus> he's probably running around in circles
07:43 < Storm\_> Work i believe
07:43 < jr19> where does he work
07:44 < Storm\_> he's having all his coworkers give ++ the /. article
07:45 < jr19> no one will tell me
07:45  * jr19 searches the interwebz for brandon wilson in johnson city
07:46 < Spengwork> heh
07:48 < Storm\_> jr19, I think he doesn't tell us on purpose but IDK
07:49 < sir_lewk> my guesses are he either turned his calc into some sort quantum computing device, or infiltrated TI
07:49 < sir_lewk> where is the slashdot article?
07:50 < sir_lewk> firehoused I presume
07:50 < incubus> he already said how he did it
07:50 < sir_lewk> nvm, found it
07:50 < Storm\_> incubus, he did?
07:50 < incubus> he just did a general sieve and did some shit with it
07:51 < incubus> http://www.unitedti.org/index.php?showtopic=8888
07:51 < incubus> last psot
07:51 < incubus> post
07:51 < incubus> :D
07:52 < incubus> 'The final processing involved finding the null space of a 5.4 million x 5.4 million matrix'
07:52 < incubus> OUCH
07:52 < incubus> doable but outch
07:52 < incubus> ouch*
07:52 < sir_lewk> bullshit, he broke all modern encryption and is going to be using his newfound skills to take over the world
07:52 < incubus> lol
07:52 < incubus> hardly
07:52 < sir_lewk> with ti-83+s!!!
07:52 < incubus> I have no idea how this took 10 years to do
07:53 < sir_lewk> what kind of computers did this take?  I remember from a few years ago everyone talking about how this was totally unfeasible
07:54 < Randomist> I wonder what TI would do if they found out.
07:54 < sir_lewk> they'll probably know soon enough,  not much they can do now though, besides some DMCA nonsense perhaps
07:54 < sir_lewk> is Moody in the US?
07:56 < Storm\_> lulz it was a 1.9Ghz Athlon dual core
07:56 < Randomist> Haha.
07:56 < Randomist> Is that cracking program cross-network, too?
07:56 < Storm\_> my 3ghz c2d should be able to do it an about 1/2 the time then :P
07:57 < incubus> sir_lewk, obviously someone who knew a decent amount about cryptography didn't attempt this till just now :P
07:57 < incubus> 73 days of computing time, zomg
07:57 < Randomist> Maybe a someone can start a network of comps like Folding@Home to crack keys.
07:57 < sir_lewk> not too bad
07:57 < incubus> Randomist, they did for rainbow tables
07:57 < incubus> they have a shitload of MD5 hashes
07:58 < incubus> or rather, key->hash pairs
07:58 < incubus> They shut down the site though so idk what will happen to oit now
07:58 < Storm\_> Randomist, really if it only took 73Days for his comp to do it a few quad cores would make quick work of it
07:58 < incubus> it now*
07:59 < incubus> We as a channel could have distributed this and gotten it in a week
07:59 < incubus> good job guys, good job
08:00 < Randomist> Some botnet in Russia and one day.  :P
08:00 < Storm\_> lol there are still plenty of keys that need to be cracked though so why not
08:00 < sir_lewk> on ticalc he's saying something about a different key for the 84+s
08:00 < sir_lewk> if he releases his stuff that he used I'm sure one of use could crack it much faster
08:00 < Storm\_> sir_lewk, yeah but the 84's have both keys so it doesn't matter
08:01 < sir_lewk> "Oh, and by the way, I don't actually think this will work for sending OSes to a stock 84+. (84+ OSes are signed using the 0A key instead. While the boot code does include key 04, it also has a bug preventing that key from being used. So I believe you can only send an 04-signed OS if you have that key in your calculator certificate.)"
08:01 < sir_lewk> -Benjamin Moody
08:02 < Storm\_> well Free83P can take care of that until we crack the 000A key
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08:02 < Storm\_> I mean we its already set up to add the 0005 key, just put the 0004 key there instead
08:03 < sir_lewk> ya
08:03 < sir_lewk> I think I'm still shellshocked from this :o
08:04 < incubus> I'm just confused though, doesn't the private key exist somewhere in the calculator ROM?
08:04 < incubus> I mean the calculator itself has to verify the signature
08:04 < leofox> you dont need the private key I think
08:04 < leofox> to verify something
08:04 < sir_lewk> yeah, it verifies with the public key
08:05 < leofox> thats why RSA is awesome
08:05 < sir_lewk> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public-key_cryptography
08:06 < leofox> we had to decrypt RSA on our maths test
08:06 < leofox> in our head
08:06 < leofox> without knowing the key
08:06 < incubus> oh my bad, you have to generate a public key via the private key
08:06 < incubus> so there are 2 private keys
08:06 < incubus> one to encrypt with, one to decrypt with
08:06 < incubus> er wait
08:07 < leofox> yeah in this context I think you need one key to sign it, and one to verify
08:07 < leofox> the verify key (public) is stored in the calculator, the signing key  (private) was held only by TI
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08:07 < leofox> RSA is pretty easy to decrypt, it just takes forever
08:07 < incubus> ya it's fairly simple
08:08 < incubus> I just forgot exactly the way the keys are handled
08:08 < leofox> with small n you could do it in your head
08:09 < incubus> leofox, well obviously they found a way around having the signing key
08:10 < sir_lewk> well, they figured out what the signing key was
08:10 < incubus> no no
08:10 < incubus> before this
08:11 < sir_lewk> oh, yeah
08:16 < incubus> http://funny.celeb-rumor.com/math-boobs/
08:16 < incubus> We agree he's actually looking at the calculator, right?
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08:22 < Randomist> That is what he wants us to think.
08:23 < incubus> that girl has some yellow teeth
08:23 < incubus> maybe it's just me
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08:28 < jr19> hard to tell on my phone
08:28 < jr19> they look like they might be a bit off-white
08:28 < incubus> would you do her?
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08:29 < jr19> probably, though i'd like to get a better look at her face/body
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08:35 < BrandonW> I'm already on cracking the other keys.
08:42 < Spengwork> brandon brandon he's our man if he can't do it nobody can
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08:46 < Merth|G1> Tari and BrandonW: I sent the calcs. they should be there by tuesday
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08:52 <@efneTI92> [DSP_Lord] I'm not a ninja, no idea what you're talking about.
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09:07 < Randomist> Spengwork:  If he can't do it, and if Benjamin Moody can't do it, then, yes, you are royally screwed.
09:08  * Randomist lols at Zen kernel names.
09:12 < jr19> zen?
09:14 < asmand> E-J: I like the cushtop
09:17 < Randomist> jr19:  Bleeding-edge kernel with patches to fix bugs, add more hardware support, performance tweaks, and whatnot.
09:17 < jr19> hmm, i didnt know it was called "zen"
09:18 < jr19> guess that's how out of tune i am with computers anymore
09:19 < asmand> what's stroids btw
09:19 < Randomist> Not to be confused with the Xen hypervisor.  :P
09:21 < jr19> i keep reading it as "steroids"
09:24 < Randomist> lol
09:25 < Randomist> I like it because I guess the IO bug is fixed a bit so high IO does not stop me from being able to launch other apps.
09:26 < Randomist> I still get that with the regular vanilla kernel.
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09:51 <@efneTI92> [Randomist] The pycho has entered the channel.  Sound the alarms.
10:07 < incubus> where is BrandonW
10:07 < incubus> my god
10:08 < incubus> wait jr19, are you there?
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10:16 <@efneTI92> [sir_lewk] http://www.cs.drexel.edu/~jlg95  I have much DATA in VELOCIRAPTORS AND PHILOSOPH
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10:38 < ryantmer> Weekend time! Server goes off.
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10:45 <@efneTI92> [i_c-Y] It's like I'm the last sane person on Earth.
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10:50 < mtgrss111> yo
10:50 < i_c-Y> hm
10:51 < i_c-Y> itx core 2 quad combos on newegg...
10:51 < i_c-Y> wish it had a pci-e slot
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11:01 <+patz2009> i hate how my college's website still holds pages that are like 15 years old
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11:11 < mtgrss111> there was a rickroll where a guy subbed his own lyrics making fun of the music video. It refered to a ninja bartender and pointed out all the retarded details about the vid.
11:11 < mtgrss111> but now i can't find it.
11:11 < leofox> search for never gonna give you up literal version
11:12 < leofox> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kr2jlCyCJBI
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11:13 < mtgrss111> sweet
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11:36 <+krisk> so
11:38 < mtgrss111> so what?
11:39 <+krisk> so that
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11:41 < leofox> hey krisk
11:41 <+krisk> yo
11:41 < mtgrss111> whoa
11:41 <+krisk> yo
11:41 < mtgrss111> security needs work
11:43 < leofox> why didnt you come to enschede :P
11:43 <+krisk> gotta be back home in time tomorrow for going into town
11:43 <+krisk> and having slept
11:44 <+krisk> before training
11:45 < mtgrss111> oh wow
11:45 < mtgrss111> http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/420/42051.html
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11:54 < Andy_J> ....
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11:54 <+krisk> sup leofox
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11:56 < mtgrss111> o_O
11:56 < Andy_J> fucking eggdrops
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11:57 <+krisk> egging fuckdrops
11:57 < mtgrss111> dropping eggfucks
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11:58 < _Digital> bot wars!
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11:58  * _Digital slaps DSP_Lord around a bit with a large trout
12:01 < _Digital> bah, if you read that join Halo
12:03 < mtgrss111> ?
12:06 < Andy_J> _Digital: he's at work, nub
12:06 < Andy_J> DSP_Lord: lrn2/away
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12:43 < bsparks> wow
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12:43 < Andy_J> ?
12:44 < bsparks> the bots got all confused :)
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12:48 < Andy_J> they alwasy do
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12:56 < millinao> damn you disconnecting doppelganger
13:09 < Barrett> anyone know what's up with centos?
13:09 < Barrett> did the dude die or is he just playing hookie?
13:09 < mtgrss111> centos?
13:09 < millinao> who's centos
13:10 < Andy_J> the freshmaker?
13:10 < Andy_J> oh wait that's mentos
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13:11 < Barrett> well, the lead guy for CentOS is apparently being a douche (according to the other guys on the team... who hate him... so I'm reluctant to believe it, but whatever)
13:11 < Barrett> and he's been MIA
13:11 < Barrett> and they want to fork
13:11 < Barrett> if they do, I vote for a better name
13:11 < Barrett> and logo
13:11 < mokomull> I don't think he's the lead dude for CentOS, just the dude in control of the hardware
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13:12 < mokomull> basically, the IT guy thinks he can do shit
13:12 < Barrett> well, he's in control of the domain name, the hardware, and the funds
13:12 < mokomull> Right.
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13:12 <@efneTI92> [Storm\_] Yes rivereye, it is time to go fishing.
13:13 < Barrett> and they predict that he won't give it up (the domain name being the important part, I guess), so they're considering a fork
13:13 < Barrett> and according to this article, a single RPM will convert your install... so it doesn't sound like it'd be all that bad
13:13 < Barrett> especially if they get a better logo
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13:13 < Barrett> and name
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13:20 < millinao_> bah
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13:21 < Spengo> how do I block people on facebook that are unsearchable and not my friend
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13:25 <+noah_> Spengo why would you need to do that?
13:26 < Spengo> because some weirdit keeps messaging me and I don't even know how they do that without being a friend
13:26 < Spengo> I thought I had everything set to friends only friends only
13:26 < Spengo> and made myself unsearchable
13:26 < Spengo> fuck
13:27 < Spengo> some religious weirdo that does weirdo religous public talks or something like that I didn't really look into it much
13:27 < Spengo> I think it's a friend of one of my friends
13:27 < Spengo> and sends out these mass messages
13:27 < Spengo> I do not want them
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13:40 < tev> I'm finally up again. Looks like TI just got pwn3d last night :-)
13:41 <+noah_> yup big time
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13:41 <+noah_> would of been better if it was nspire 
13:42 < bsparks> noah_, what was the market penetration of the nspire again?
13:42 <+noah_> I don't know
13:45 < Storm\_> bsparks, basically none, from what i hear most math teachers prefer the 83+ series :P
13:45 < Storm\_> at least mine did
13:46 < Storm\_> the funny thing is an Nspire with the 84+ keyboard is cheaper than a 84+SE and they still can't sell them
13:46 < bsparks> Bingo :)
13:46 < BrandonW> Because people want the wonders of USB and gaming.
13:47 < bsparks> that's why I traded my 89t for an 84+SE
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13:48 < Storm\_> Plus the 84+'s don't have a bunch of crap no one wants in a calculator
13:49 < Storm\_> they would have been better off upgrading the 86, that would have had a better chance of succeeding
13:49 <+noah_> yea the 86 showed potential
13:49 < i_c-Y> so whats the current TI lineup
13:49 < bsparks> I want Benjamin Gibbard to narrate my day one day. In song.
13:49 <+noah_> leagal on more tests but still powerful
13:49 < i_c-Y> 73 exp, 83+, 86, 84+, 84+ se, 89ti, nspire, nspire cas?
13:50 < Storm\_> the 86 is no longer i_c-Y 
13:51 < Storm\_> 73Exp, 83+, 84+/SE, 89Ti, Nspire, Nspire CAS
13:51 < Storm\_> hmm tiger direct has a pretty good deal on a ThinkPad T61u
13:52 < i_c-Y> the T61u is fucked up
13:52 < Storm\_> 0.o
13:52 < i_c-Y> who the fuck designed the keyboard?
13:52 < Storm\_> good to know
13:52 < i_c-Y> seriously
13:52 < i_c-Y> if they put that on the other models
13:52 < i_c-Y> imma slit their throats
13:52 <+noah_> I say they drop the nspire and make the v400
13:52 < Storm\_> I think I'll keep looking at the T500 series then
13:53 < Randomist> http://www.archive.org/details/TheyAreTheDemons
13:53 < i_c-Y> or cut off their balls and bleed to death.
13:54 < Storm\_> but yeah I was hopeing to get something with at least a 2.4Ghz C2D and a discrete GPU, levono appears to have the best deals there
13:54 < i_c-Y> why a 2.4 GHz C2D?
13:54 < Randomist> Oh, and I fixed the Flash crashing issue.
13:55 < Randomist> It was Catalyst's fault.  >.<
13:55 < BrandonW> Imma slit their throats!
13:55 < Storm\_> i_c-Y, I want to be able to compile code at a pretty decent rate, but I guess anything over 2Ghz would be fine
13:56 < Randomist> Whatever you do, don't get an AMD!  :P
13:56 < i_c-Y> i seriously doubt that you're going to have issues with code compiling speed even with a slower box
13:56 < i_c-Y> The AMD Neo looks pretty good
13:57 < Randomist> I have a shitty AMD proc in mine.
13:57 < Storm\_> Hmm well I'm most likely be buying it this weekend so I need to decide quick
13:57 < i_c-Y> and you have 1000 bucks to go towards it?
13:57 < Randomist> It does not do frequency-scaling that well.
13:57 < Storm\_> i_c-Y, basically
13:57 < Randomist> So it gets "the stutters."
13:58 < Storm\_> I can go up or down from there
13:58 < bsparks> Randomist, can't be worse than a Crusoe
13:58 < i_c-Y> and you want it for solidworks?
13:58 < i_c-Y> bsparks: but the Crusoes are atleast cool.
13:58 < Storm\_> that, gaming and coding
13:58 < i_c-Y> (cool as in interesting)
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13:58 < i_c-Y> what size?
13:58 < bsparks> i_c-Y, they are not that much different than a P4!
13:58 < Storm\_> no larger than 16"
13:58 < Merthsoft> hi guys
13:59 < Storm\_> preferably around 15.4"
13:59 < i_c-Y> bsparks: in that they both sucked? 
13:59 < Randomist> Hello, Merthsoft.
13:59 < i_c-Y> Storm\_: uh... what kind of gaming are you wanting to do?
13:59 < i_c-Y> cause 1000 dollars doesnt buy you a nice gaming laptop thats reasonably durable 
14:00 < i_c-Y> it wouldnt be a lenovo or a dell anyway unless if an xps comes to the right price
14:00 < Randomist> bsparks:  Did I mention it is hot like a nuclear reactor if you don't have a chill plate?  :P
14:00 < Storm\_> nothing hard core, I'll still have my desktop for that
14:00 < i_c-Y> example of games
14:00 < i_c-Y> youcould get an asus for like 1000
14:01 < bsparks> Randomist, still better than a Crusoe 
14:01 < Storm\_> TF2, battlefield, multiplayer stuff
14:01 < Storm\_> not crysis or anything
14:02 < Randomist> Crysis?  On a laptop?
14:02 < Storm\_> :P
14:02 < i_c-Y> its doable, Randomist 
14:02 < Storm\_> I have friends who pull it off on their $2000+ laptops
14:02 < i_c-Y> yes, playable crysis on a laptop
14:03 < i_c-Y> well sony has a few on newegg at 1000 (FW450J) that have decent graphics, 16.4"
14:03 < Randomist> You'd probably burn a hole through your skeleton with that.
14:03 < Storm\_> Sony :/
14:03 < Randomist> Battery would last, like, five seconds.
14:03 < Storm\_> I haven't heard much good about them.
14:04 < Storm\_> i_c-Y, the other thing I was worrying about was Win 7 update chance's 
14:04 < BrandonW> This guy keeps bugging me about writing an OS.
14:04 < Storm\_> I know if I go through levono I can get a free Windows 7 upgrade license
14:04 < Merthsoft> BrandonW: did you get my message earlier?
14:04 < BrandonW> I just don't have the heart to tell him to stop it, learn some assembly, and then try to do something that advanced.
14:04 < BrandonW> That it'll be here Tuesday? Yes.
14:04 < i_c-Y> i think the best choice is a Dell XPS with an additional warranty. 
14:05 < Randomist> BrandonW:  Give him a Kevin O. response there, and you should be good.
14:05 < Merthsoft> good
14:05 < Storm\_> hmm really, I was looking at the thinkpads but I'll price out the XPS's I know my sisters lasted pretty well though
14:06 < Merthsoft> i like my inspiron
14:06 < i_c-Y> Storm\_: if you're trying to game on a thinkpad, you're doing it wrong.
14:06 < bsparks> I wanna learn how to program for Transmeta's CMS and program a FW upgrade to do x86 and PPC native at the same time
14:07 < Storm\_> i_c-Y, I want the ability, I don't need it to run newish games great, just well enough to play.
14:08 < Tari> But if you want it to last four years, you want beasty now..
14:08 < Tari> and even that probably won't last that long
14:09 < Storm\_> Yeah that's kinda what my dad was saying, and since he's paying that's a good thing
14:09 < Merthsoft> Tari: Did you get my message earlier?
14:10 < i_c-Y> Storm\_: its better just to get a laptop that will last - you can upgrade your desktop for a few years to come
14:10 < Tari> I heard about it, Merthsoft :)
14:10 < Merthsoft> woo
14:10 < Tari> [hezy told me]
14:10 < Storm\_> i_c-Y, ok, so you think an XPS woulds be the best bet then?
14:11 < i_c-Y> unfortunately, it looks like they've killed all of them except the 13.3" one
14:11 < Storm\_> they have 15.4 and 15.6 ones too
14:11 < Storm\_> I'm looking at them right now
14:11 < i_c-Y> actually, lemme check the studioxps 16 to see if htey have good graphics
14:12 < Storm\_> 128MB NVIDIA® GeForce® 8400M GS
14:12 < i_c-Y> no, you dont want that
14:12 < Storm\_> hmm ok
14:12 < i_c-Y> the studio xps 16" with the 100 dollar HD 4670 upgrade should be good
14:13 < i_c-Y> but then you also want the 1920 x1080 upgrade too >.>
14:13 < Storm\_> Yeah I the 1920x180 is a must thanks to HD movies and such
14:14 < Storm\_> 1080*
14:14 < Storm\_> yeah but even with those upgrades its still less than the thinkpad
14:15 < i_c-Y> its like 300 for a better than 1 year warranty though
14:16 < Storm\_> hmm it looks like I'll be paying at least $1300 to get close to what I would like to have
14:17 < i_c-Y> id really reccomend getting a warranty more than a year though for college
14:17 < Storm\_> and that's with jsut the standard stuff, 2yr warranty though
14:17 < i_c-Y> for me it shows up that the 2 year warranty is 10 dollars less than the 3 year warranty
14:18 < Storm\_> yeah so the 3yr would be worth it there
14:18 < Storm\_> link to the one your looking at please, so i know were talking about the same laptop
14:19 < i_c-Y> Im looking at the studio xps 16
14:20 < Storm\_> Ok, from what I see the starting price seems to be $1,399 to get one that'll last me and have decent specs
14:21 < i_c-Y> im not sure how the build quality is on the studio xps - im assuming its just a rebrand of the old xps so it should be decent.
14:22 < i_c-Y> they look like the last ones that were above 13 in that were titled xps
14:22 < Storm\_> Yeah if its like my sisters XPS M1770 then it should last fine, though her HDD just died
14:22 < i_c-Y> yeah well your sister is an idiot. that's why the hard drive died.
14:23 < Storm\_> that is true
14:23 < Storm\_> she treats it like crap 
14:23 < Storm\_> the hinge is also going on the LCD but its still in pretty good shape
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14:24 < Storm\_> ooh a free upgrade to a 7200RPM Drive
14:25 < i_c-Y> the dv2z series is quite attractively priced
14:25 < i_c-Y> from HP
14:25 < i_c-Y> but not relevant to your interests.
14:25 < Storm\_> and I can live without blue-ray so that's not an issue, though the upgrade is cheaper than a drive from newegg
14:25 < Storm\_> hmm ok
14:29 < i_c-Y> plus i think the newer lenovos dont have ibm support
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14:30 < i_c-Y> actually ibm might be covering the T400 & T500
14:30 < Storm\_> i_c-Y, though you can still get the IBM discount and my Grandpa is a retired IBM employee
14:30 < i_c-Y> I know they're covering the 60 and 61's
14:30 < i_c-Y> but they dont make any sense for gaming laptops.
14:31 < Storm\_> i_c-Y, gaming is more of an after thought
14:31 < Storm\_> I'll mostly be doing CAD and Coding on it
14:31 < i_c-Y> and if the thinkpad isn't backed by ibm, fuck it cause lenovo is starting to cut costs
14:31 < Storm\_> hmm ok 
14:32 < Storm\_> my dad was leaning towards dell so I'd most likely be able to get him to contribute more towards it if i get dell
14:32 < i_c-Y> well, if you're more serious abou t the CAD than the gaming, so you can also consider the dell precisions
14:32 < i_c-Y> but they're more expensive
14:32 < i_c-Y> though the cards in all of them should be cert. for pretty much every cad package
14:33 < i_c-Y> and they might be a better deal
14:33 < Storm\_> i_c-Y, the main thing since I haven't started school yet i won't know until I I start
14:34 < Storm\_> the latitudes seem to have gone down hill a lot since my dad got his
14:35 < i_c-Y> nah, they're still relatively solid.
14:35 < Storm\_> but their not as good of a deal as they used to be.
14:36 < Storm\_> hmm it seems the precisions don't have the windows 7 upgrade option, at least it isn't standard.
14:36 < i_c-Y> ... they've become a LOT more cost effective over the past few years.
14:36 < i_c-Y> well, the precision M4400 has a Solidworks cert card
14:36 < i_c-Y> if you care about that
14:36 < i_c-Y> (its a modded 9600GT)
14:37 < Storm\_> there's ways to trick Solidworks into thinking you've got a certified card
14:37 < i_c-Y> HD4670 is a bit better for gaming, but if you're doing basic solidworks, even intel integrated works fine.
14:38 < Storm\_> Yeah Intels are the easiest to get realview working on, I've already proven its a scam by getting it to work on a pretty old intel integrated
14:38 < Storm\_> I personally prefer ATI cards but that doesn't really matter.
14:39 < Storm\_> linux support of ATI seems much better atm.
14:39 < Storm\_> but I haven't decided if i'll dual boot my laptop of not
14:39 < i_c-Y> have you even owned more than 1 ATi card that wasn't something like a Rage?
14:40 < Storm\_> Yeah my desktop has a HD4850 in it
14:40 < i_c-Y> 1 is not more than 1.
14:40 < Storm\_> though yeah I have a few machines with Rage 3D's in them :P
14:40 < i_c-Y> and i'm pretty sure you only got that card because i bullied you into it.
14:40 < Storm\_> and my dad's latitude has a r128 card
14:41 < i_c-Y> yeah, but you aren't your dad.
14:41 < Storm\_> i_c-Y, no it was a much better deal than anythign out there
14:41 < Storm\_> Rage 128*
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14:41 < Storm\_> and its dyeing along with the rest of his laptop.
14:42 < i_c-Y> did you check if your school has a purchase program?
14:42 < i_c-Y> some schools actually have decent ones
14:42 < Storm\_> they suggest some off the wall small business thing
14:42 < Storm\_> I'm going to Marquette BTW
14:42 < i_c-Y> never heard of it
14:43 < Storm\_> Marquette University!!!!
14:44 < Storm\_> hmm it seems the Latitudes are Intel Integrated only
14:44 < i_c-Y> or NVS 160M or something.
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14:46 < Storm\_> I don't see any with that but w/e I'll look more tomorrow
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14:46 < bsparks> soooo want an eeeKey
14:47 < _Digital> away sleep
14:47 < i_c-Y> bsparks: they're selling them now?
14:47 < bsparks> i_c-Y, not yet :(
14:47 < i_c-Y> it kinda reminds me of the TI 99
14:48 < bsparks> same :)
14:48 < bsparks> it can run XP on that tiny little touchscreen
14:48 < bsparks> and I canda wanted to emulate the 99/a with it
14:48 < bsparks> *kinda
14:50 < i_c-Y> loser.
14:51 < bsparks> pretty much, yeah
14:53 < Storm\_> I think I might just have to go with a XPS.
14:53 < Storm\_> they seem to be the best bang for my buck
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15:12 <@efneTI92> [Storm\_] Yes rivereye, it is time to go fishing.
15:13 < ports> yay
15:13 < ports> i got my car
15:13 < ports> the audi is badass
15:14 < TD-Linux> BrandonW, .... what?
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15:27 < Randomist> Woo, op wars.
15:27 < al_b> No war like a Bot War
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15:27 < ports> hahaha
15:27 < al_b> 5 bucks on 89
15:28 < ports> aint no party like a ports party
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15:28 < al_b> !k efneTI80 will this work?
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15:31 < Randomist> Haha.
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15:32 < Randomist> Nikky!
15:33 < Randomist> Fix ur bawtz!
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15:34 < tev> Nikky's gone for the week
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15:35 < tev> :-(
15:35 < Randomist> Well, Andy_J!
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15:41 < j-b-r> Lololol
15:41 < j-b-r> I love stuff like that
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15:42 < j-b-r> Yay, more
15:42 < j-b-r> I also love netsplits.
15:42 < j-b-r> Does anyone else love netsplits?
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15:42 < Randomist> Netsplits are totally awesome.
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15:43 < Randomist> They remind us that divided, we fail.  Or some wise thing like that.
15:43 < j-b-r> Really? They remind me of... alien abductions or something, I guess
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15:44 < j-b-r> I know what they remind me of, the remind me how wierd it would be to have to have two separate internets because some other planet that I now live on is too far away from earth to use the same one anymore
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15:46 <@efneTI92> [patrick_] The TI-85 shall reign supreme, always and forever
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15:46 < patrick_> fight!
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15:48 < j-b-r> Why is TI89 such a jerk?
15:48 -!- mode/#tcpa [+o efneTI81] by efneTI92
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15:48 < j-b-r> It keeps taking the poor 81s ops
15:48 -!- mode/#tcpa [+o efneTI81] by efneTI86
15:49 < j-b-r> TI85 is funny, it can't decide who's side it's on
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15:50 < ports> because he hates your life
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15:50  * Randomist goes through, playing his music backwards to decide whether it sounds better that way or net.
15:50 < ports> im not a big fan of it either
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15:51 < Randomist> Apparently, my mind seems to work backwards a bit, because when I play backwards, it sounds more like intro-body-exit than it did forwards.
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16:13 < ports> grr
16:16 < BrandonW> FIGHT
16:19 < ports> oh man that sounds gross
16:19 < ports> a pink lady..
16:19 < ports> pepto bismol and rum
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16:29 < BrandonW> al_b: no, the 83+ OS public key wasn't broken years ago.
16:29 < BrandonW> Hey, I killed him.
16:29 < BrandonW> Sweet.
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16:33  * Randomist stabs Flash for freezing up the entire web browser.
16:34 < Randomist> * to upload
16:37 <+Michael_V> just when I thought I wasn't going to do any more programming...
16:37 < Tari> oh no, now what are you doing?
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16:38 <+Michael_V> nothing...I'm tempted to try cracking the 73 flash app key
16:38 < Tari> ah
16:38 < Barrett> how did I never see that movie? and barely even heard about it
16:38 < Barrett> just saw night at the museum for the first time
16:38 <+Michael_V> but the only way I could get a reasonable speed is to run it on my mom's computer during the daytime
16:38 <+Michael_V> still, it's a Core 2 Duo E8500
16:38 < Barrett> would something like that be easy to set up?
16:39 <+Michael_V> absolutely
16:39 < Barrett> I can contribute 2 8 core processors
16:39 <+Michael_V> !
16:39 < Tari> pfft, set up a BOINC project
16:39 < Barrett> computers
16:39 < Barrett> not processors
16:39 < Barrett> dual quad
16:39 <+Michael_V> where did you get these computers from?
16:39 < Barrett> newegg
16:39 <+Michael_V> they're just sitting around?
16:39 < Barrett> no
16:39 <+Michael_V> I don't want you cracking on school computers or such
16:39 < Barrett> they're serving my websites
16:39 <+Michael_V> you run them out of your home?
16:39 < Barrett> and various virtual machines
16:39 < Barrett> collocation
16:39 < Barrett> datacenter
16:40 <+Michael_V> ah
16:41 < Barrett> so... what would I use on linux?
16:41 <+Michael_V> http://gilchrist.ca/jeff/factoring/nfs_beginners_guide.html
16:41 <+Michael_V> that really covers it all
16:41 <+Michael_V> it's not that hard to set up
16:42 < Barrett> so... there are different keys for the 83+ series?
16:43 < Barrett> like.. the 84+ uses a different one?
16:43 <+Michael_V> yes
16:43 < Barrett> would it be useful for me to start doing that one?
16:43 <+Michael_V> the 84+ uses 000A and also has 010A for apps
16:43 <+Michael_V> well benjamin is doing 000A
16:43 <+Michael_V> but more than one person can work on a key
16:43 <+Michael_V> you just have to divide up the sieving
16:43 <+Michael_V> and communicate who will do what parts
16:43 <+Michael_V> 000A is the immediately useful one
16:43 < Barrett> this sounds confusing
16:44 <+Michael_V> perhaps you should offer computers to Benjamin
16:44 <+Michael_V> instead of him using his 1.9 Ghz Athlon
16:44 < Barrett> I can do that
16:44 <+Michael_V> well there is an OS key and app signing key for each calculator
16:44 < Barrett> get him on IRC
16:44 <+Michael_V> it was 0104 for 83+ apps
16:44 <+Michael_V> which TI released so we could sign our own
16:44 <+Michael_V> the OS used 0004
16:44 <+Michael_V> but the 84+ series has two more
16:44 <+Michael_V> 000A for 84+ OSes
16:45 <+Michael_V> 010A for 84+ apps (which no one uses because you have 0104 that works on both)
16:45 <+Michael_V> then there's the TI-73 which has two more
16:45 <+Michael_V> plus the 89...92+...
16:46 < Randomist> Will you be able to crack propritary apps with that or just the OS?
16:46 <+Michael_V> what proprietary apps?
16:46 <+Michael_V> do you mean ones that were formerly licensed per calculator?
16:47 < Randomist> Like that ZoomAlgebra thing.
16:47 <+Michael_V> I think I still have some of those somewhere
16:47 <+Michael_V> yes
16:47 <+Michael_V> but you need a calculator that can run zoomalgebra
16:47 <+Michael_V> because it's had the certificate installed
16:48 < patrick_> but can't you already just resign it with a different key?
16:49 <+Michael_V> hmm
16:49 <+Michael_V> I suppose you could
16:49 <+Michael_V> I'm trying to think of why not
16:49 <+Michael_V> I haven't looked at this stuff since ~2001 actually
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16:50 < bsparks> sup Barrett reconnect
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16:50 <+Michael_V> at the time, the freeware app signing key wasn't released
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16:50 <+Michael_V> but now, yes I think you could resign
16:51 < Tari> zoomalgebra doesn't use TI's copy protection scheme
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16:51 < Tari> it does horrible things to its own code based on the calculator serial number
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16:51 < Tari> Brandon wrote a crack for it- it's somewhere in his calcstuff directory
16:52 <+Michael_V> ah
16:52 <+Michael_V> why would you want that terrible app anyway?
16:53 < patrick_> is it horrible enough to erase your certificate sector completly?
16:53 <+Michael_V> if you do that, you won't be able to load any apps or OSes
16:53 <+Michael_V> you will have bricked your calculator
16:54 <+Michael_V> then you have to use BrandonW's program and try to fix it
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16:54 <+Michael_V> now if you don't need to load anything else, you'll be like the flash debugger calculators
16:55 < patrick_> well, that's why said horrible
16:55 <+Michael_V> (which have an empty certificate page)
16:55 <+Michael_V> you're treading on thin ice
16:55 <+Michael_V> if you corrupt it the calculator won't work at all
16:56 < Storm\_> ZoomAlg is actually pretty nice
16:56 < Storm\_> BrandonW, hasn't cracked the new version yet
16:57 <+Michael_V> he no longer needs too
16:57 <+Michael_V> we can write a trivial program that changes your serial number and resigns the OS now :)
16:57 < Storm\_> lol
16:57 <+Michael_V> you just match the original purchasing calc
16:58 <+Michael_V> well
16:58 <+Michael_V> I guess it's the certificate page
16:58 <+Michael_V> which we could already change
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17:03  * Michael_V still has his 83+ key from back when you had to request them from TI and buy the SK
17:03 <+Michael_V> *SDK
17:03 <+Michael_V> I had 2EF04 :)
17:05 < Storm\_> lol nice, that might be useful to BrandonW for certificate hacking, though thats not as important now.
17:05 <+Michael_V> not really
17:05 <+Michael_V> it's a separate certificate
17:05 <+Michael_V> they have you the .8xq of course
17:05 <+Michael_V> which loaded the certificate on the calc
17:05 <+Michael_V> *they gave you
17:06 < Storm\_> yes but he could compare the .8xq with the changes it makes to the cert on calc
17:06 <+Michael_V> what for?
17:06 < Storm\_> then we could make our own 8xq's and such
17:06 < Storm\_> again I'm not sure on the use
17:07 < Storm\_> since we have TI's OS key
17:07 <+Michael_V> well it was signed by TI's certificate though
17:07 <+Michael_V> so cracking one cracked all
17:07 <+Michael_V> I feel like a major idiot for not doing anything
17:08 <+Michael_V> I could have had this cracked in 2004 when more people would have cared
17:09 <+Michael_V> any of us could
17:09 <+Michael_V> we're all idiots
17:09 <+Michael_V> except for benjamin :)
17:09 <+Michael_V> the whole thing is trivial
17:11 <@E-J> morning
17:11 <+Michael_V> good morning
17:13 < Storm\_> lol, yeah I mean I'm sure if people had worked together we could have easily done it in a a week
17:14 <+Michael_V> yes
17:14 <+Michael_V> or a year even
17:14 <+Michael_V> I could have done it in a year back then
17:14 <+Michael_V> I didn't think about it
17:14 <+Michael_V> I don't know what I was thinking
17:14 < Storm\_> someone should write a F@H  like app and we'd have them all fairly quickly
17:15 <+Michael_V> there's a lot of data to transfer though
17:15 <+Michael_V> it's best on a LAN
17:15 <@_Auron_> sign-cracking farm!
17:15 < Storm\_> I mean I know a few people who would donate number crunching servers at least
17:15 <+Michael_V> if we could just get a few fast computers they could all be done in 2 months
17:15 <+Michael_V> each person takes a key
17:16 < Storm\_> now for that I could donate a few Pentium machines ;P
17:16 <+Michael_V> if it took 73 days on a 1.9 GHz dual core Athlon 64...
17:16 <+Michael_V> imagine on say a Core 2 Quad
17:16 <+Michael_V> I would think it'd be a month
17:16 < Storm\_> well My 3Ghz C2D is usable
17:16 <+Michael_V> get started :)
17:16 <+Michael_V> pick a key
17:17 <+Michael_V> we can help you get the value to factor
17:17 <+Michael_V> although I don't have a 73 anymore...grr
17:17 <@_Auron_> I saw an 85 for the first time yesterday
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17:18 <+Michael_V> what a historical feeling
17:18 <+Michael_V> I saw my first 85 in 8th grade
17:18 < Storm\_> I'll take a look but I'm not sure I know enough
17:18 <+Michael_V> some 11th grader in my algebra class had one
17:18 <+Michael_V> Storm\_: If you can figure out the software on that introduction page, it's easy
17:18 < Storm\_> hmm I'll take a look
17:18 <+Michael_V> it does all the work
17:19 <+Michael_V> and remember, you can test it on a smaller number
17:19 <+Michael_V> say 128-bit
17:19 < Storm\_> I'll have to make sure to run a memtest first, I know before my last BIOS update I had some issues
17:19 <+Michael_V> I wonder if Benjamin is going to join the wrath of TI club with me :)
17:20 <+Michael_V> they are either furious or don't care anymore
17:20 <+Michael_V> I'm not sure which
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17:20 < Storm\_> Michael_V, why do they dislike you?
17:20 <+Michael_V> I would think they might complain under the DMCA
17:20 <+Michael_V> because I was modifying the OS
17:20 <+Michael_V> and was going to release the secret of how to bypass the protection
17:20 < Storm\_> yeah they stopped caring about that a while ago.
17:21 <+Michael_V> well but the key is another thing altogether
17:21 <+Michael_V> it makes it so much simpler
17:21 < Storm\_> Ticalc has a few ti-os patches on it now
17:21 < Storm\_> and BrandonW has released a few
17:21 <+Michael_V> indeed
17:22 < Storm\_> Its a matter of time before someone integrates some of Omnicalc's features
17:22 <+Michael_V> I should sign some of my past OSes
17:22 < Storm\_> well i need some sleep and this laptop is starting to get warm on my legs
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17:22 <+Michael_V> I wrote one for the 83+ SE that used the undocumented crystal timers to put a real-time clock in
17:23 <+Michael_V> (a modified TI-OS)
17:23 <+Michael_V> I suppose with the 84+ no one cares anymore
17:23 <+Michael_V> how sad
17:24 <+Michael_V> perhaps I should move on to another platform
17:24 <+Michael_V> like city traffic computers :P
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17:27 <@E-J> michael terrorist vincent
17:28 <+Michael_V> I'm joking :)
17:28 <@E-J> me too :)
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18:04 < ryantmer> Agh.
18:04 < ryantmer> This is killing me.
18:04 < asmand> tired...
18:04 < ryantmer> How do I apply CSS colours to text inside a table? I've tried inline CSS, tried putting at the beginning, nothing seems to work.
18:09 < asmand> td color?
18:10 < ryantmer> doesn't seem to work :(
18:13 <@E-J> it should work like td {color:#00ff00}
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18:36 <@E-J> soon i should go to eastern helsinki to drive kart
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19:12 < ryantmer> Blagh. Finally figured it out. Random "vlink" param in the <body> tag was screwing with my mind.
19:12 < ryantmer> Sleepytiem.
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19:30 <@E-J> now i have used all the other public transportation forms available here except train
19:30  * E-J ircs from metro
19:32 < patrick_> does that include boats?
19:34 <@E-J> nope, sorry, there is one boat that's included to public transportation here, and of course i forgot it
19:34 <@E-J> so only trams, busses and metro
19:34 <@E-J> train and boat not this week
19:35 <@E-J> i have used them yes, but not at current week
19:37 <@E-J> 10 minutes and 5 more stations to go
19:37 <@E-J> 10 or more
19:38 < BrandonW> I hope you're all crunching away on 0102 and 0A.
19:38 < BrandonW> Those are the two most important unknown keys.
19:38 < BrandonW> If you don't have it, I'll extract them from the boot code later.
19:38 < BrandonW> Now I must sleep.
19:39 <@E-J> even BrandonW needs sleep sometimes
19:40 < patrick_> good thing efneTI85 does not
19:40 < Randomist> How can I start crunching this thing, since I leave my laptop on all the time, anyway?
19:41 < Randomist> It might as well be doing something useful at night other that playing ambiant music and doing system matinence.
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20:57 <@efneTI92> [leofox] All we do in hell is play DDR!
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23:51 <@efneTI92> [i_c-Y] It's like I'm the last sane person on Earth.
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23:26 < i_c-Y> Netham45: hey fuckwad get this omnimaga shit under control
23:27 < Barrett> i_c-Y: that file is set to 0... does that modify the system clock?  should it work with fully virtualized guests?
23:27 < Barrett> 'cause it isn't
23:28 < BMerth_J> craptacular 
23:29 < mtgrss111> i_c-Y
23:29 < i_c-Y> mtgrss111
23:29 < mtgrss111> that was omni coming to withdraw his declaration of war
23:29 < mtgrss111> i told him to keep #tcpa out of it.
23:29 < BrandonW> I don't care who said what, not another word.
23:29 < BrandonW> Keep it to /msg's.
23:29 < BrandonW> Not another word.
23:30 < Barrett> what's even going on?
23:30 < Barrett> I don't understand the maturity level of certain individuals...
23:32 < BrandonW> Go to omnimaga.org or ask in /msg.
23:32 < BrandonW> This has nothing to do with this channel.
23:32 < BrandonW> Absolutely nothing.
23:32 < BrandonW> And we're not getting dragged into it.
23:33 < i_c-Y> Barrett: if that's set to 0 for Dom0 and DomU, then it should all get whatever time from dom0
23:33 < i_c-Y> up to a few ms or less
23:33 < i_c-Y> so then you run ntp there
23:34 < i_c-Y> and it hsould update in like 15 minutes
23:35 < Barrett> well, dom0 has the right time
23:35 < Barrett> and this guest gets off, not just by a number of hours, but the minutes don't even line up
23:35 < i_c-Y> and what is /proc/sys/xen/independent_wallcock for dom0 and domu?
23:36 < Barrett> the domus don't know anything about xen
23:36 < Barrett> they aren't paravirtualized
23:36 < Barrett> they're fully virtualized
23:36 < BMerth_J> (andy) sigh. does anyone care about kevin anymore anyway? at all?
23:37 < Barrett> (they don't have that file or even that folder)
23:37 < BMerth_J> (brad) freaking retarded. Who the fuck didn't have a ban on him in the first place? I thought we used to
23:38 < BMerth_J> (shaun) penis penis penis
23:38 < Barrett> My guess is that Xen is screwing up the hardware clock
23:38 < Barrett> ("hardware")
23:38 < BMerth_J> !k bmerth_j (andy) sigh. /me actua-punches merth
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23:39 < i_c-Y> Barrett: try setting it to 1 then and running ntp everywhere
23:39 -!- mode/#tcpa [-o BMerth_J] by BMerth_J
23:39 < i_c-Y> or setting it to 1 then no ntp
23:40 < Barrett> I'll try that
23:40 < Barrett> or, probably I should start using what Xen is good at (paravirtualization)
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23:42 < BMerth_J> hey guys guess what andy doesn't have?
23:42 < BMerth_J> ketchup
23:42 < i_c-Y> a life?
23:42 < i_c-Y> a soul?
23:42 < i_c-Y> hope for anyone loving him?
23:42 < BMerth_J> .
23:42 < BMerth_J> f you buddy
23:42 < DSP_Lord> !k i_c-Y
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23:42 < Barrett> are you at andy's apartment or something?
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23:42 < i_c-Y> :(
23:42 < i_c-Y> that was mean
23:42 < mtgrss111> kick abuse, Nikky?
23:42 < i_c-Y> i clearly odn't have autorejoin for one
23:43 < DSP_Lord> that's the pot calling the kettle black.
23:43 < BMerth_J> Barrett: yeah
23:43 < BMerth_J> kick abuse? the fuck?
23:44 < Barrett> why were you in his fridge?
23:44 < BMerth_J> (brad) Barrett we're at his house
23:44 < BMerth_J> (b) he has hot dogs, Shaun likes his tubesteak too much
23:44 < BMerth_J> -_-
23:45 < BMerth_J> (a) le sigh
23:45 < DSP_Lord> lolol
23:45 < BMerth_J> (S) HE was feeding us
23:45 < Barrett> ah
23:45 < DSP_Lord> clearly needs more A MIKE'S.
23:45 < BMerth_J> yes!
23:46 < BMerth_J> (b) we're caffieneing right now, then Mikes
23:46 < DSP_Lord> psh.
23:46 < DSP_Lord> pansies.
23:46 < BMerth_J> (b) this stream is also sponsered by Mtn Dew and 7-Up
23:46 < DSP_Lord> XD
23:47 < BMerth_J> (a) i sux cawks
23:48 < BMerth_J> (b) Shaun is sad, he can't have creamy things on his tube steak, No omnomnom
23:48 < BMerth_J> sigh
23:48 < BMerth_J> I'm gonna have to lock my comoputer
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23:57 < [bsparks]> well this ought to be fun
23:57 < mtgrss111> BMerth_J???
23:58 < mtgrss111> all three hanging out at the same house or something?
23:58 < BMerth_J> yes
23:58 < BMerth_J> (a) mine
23:58 < [bsparks]> it's good fun
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