--- Log opened Fri Jul 31 00:00:59 2009
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00:07  * Andy_J groans
00:07 < al_b_back> sup homies
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00:17 < bsparks> I do have an iPod Touch :d
00:17 < _Digital> bsparks, you got my message?
00:17 < bsparks> _Digital, indeed
00:18 < _Digital> I'll work on those finer details after I look after some more pressing concerns like storage
00:18 < _Digital> speakign of which, now is break time before I go into benchmarking again
00:18 < _Digital> last tiem I never went very far
00:19 < _Digital> people love ext4, but it is so fscking slow!
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00:56 < i_c-Y> well, it was designed to be backwards compatible with ext3 and 2 ... still. unless if you explicitly turn on some other things to break that compatibility, but if you're doing that, for the love of god, why on ext4?
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00:57 < _Digital> that made no sense to me...
01:00 < Andy_J> is it so fscking slow or is it fscking so slow?
01:00 < _Digital> so fscking slow
01:00 < Andy_J> I was trying to be silly
01:00 < ports> 1
01:01 < ports> oh Andy_J is back
01:02 < _Digital> this is on a 1394b attached IDE drive, but the results on my internal SATAs aren't much better (except for sequential block and rewrite)
01:02 < _Digital> http://atlas.selfip.net/ide1.html
01:02 <+Genolo> mkv files sort of play on the wii with gxbox
01:02 <+Genolo> some lag
01:03 < _Digital> frame skipping?
01:03 <+Genolo> yeah
01:03 <+Genolo> the sound is perfect
01:03 < _Digital> you need to go to a lower bitrate or resolution or both
01:03 < _Digital> or turn off more hungry features when encoding
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01:31 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v krisk] by efneTI80
01:32 < jr19> hey krisk
01:32 <+krisk> heyhey
01:36 < jr19> its raining here
01:36 <+krisk> pretty sunny here today
01:37 <+krisk> last week was rain week
01:37 < jr19> it looks like it might let up pretty soon though
01:37 < jr19> within the next hour probably
01:42 < TD-Linux> Genolo: mkv is a container format
01:42 < TD-Linux> do you know what the video is encoded as?
01:42 <+krisk> whatever you want
01:43 <+krisk> can be h.642 or whatever it was
01:43 < TD-Linux> h.264 video plays back slowly as there is no decent way to accelerate it on the Wii becasue the Wii'ls CPU lacks Altivec
01:43 <+krisk> haha wii
01:43 <+krisk> wii can play HD movies?
01:43 < TD-Linux> no :P
01:43 <+krisk> dvd?
01:43 < TD-Linux> yes
01:43 <+krisk> ah
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01:44 < TD-Linux> XviD files generally play back very nicely because someone hand-optimized the decoder to work with what few vector-like instructions the CPU does have
01:44 < TD-Linux> krisk, unfortunately the Wii's framebuffer is only 640x480
01:45 < TD-Linux> DVDs are 720x480 (nonsquare pixels)J
01:45 < TD-Linux> so it still has to scale down
01:46 < jr19> goo
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02:15 < jr19> i'm getting pissed, the data i am getting from my sql query isnt showing up on this report even though it should be
02:27 <+krisk> echo $sResult; :)\
02:36 < jr19> i dont know whats going on here
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03:12 < ports> hehe
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03:30 < ports> hi
03:30 < ports> mother fuck... i got up to go get my coffee.. grabbed a pack of muffins and came back... forgot my coffee
03:32 < ports> ox40 Today, I went into my part-time job at a drugstore. We always have one item we try and sell to every customer. For the next week I have to ask every person if they would like to try my nuts. FML
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03:39 < jr19> everyone is dead
03:39 <+krisk> no u
03:39 < ports> i wish krisk was
03:40 <+krisk> my dad brought me soup
03:40 <+krisk> i hate soup
03:40 <+krisk> wtf am i supposed to do with hot water that has bits in it
03:41 <+krisk> you cant just eat it and you cant drink it
03:41 < jr19> lol
03:41 < jr19> what kind of soup
03:41 <+krisk> and to top it off it is nutritionally worthless
03:41 <+krisk> tomatoes
03:41 <+krisk> or
03:41 <+krisk> red water
03:41 < jr19> lol tomato soup
03:41 <+krisk> i already drink 2l of water every day
03:41 <+krisk> and how the fuck is water ever dinner
03:41 <+krisk> what's for dinner? coloured water.
03:41 <+krisk> ....
03:41 < jr19> the only thing i've ever used tomato soup for is dipping other food into it
03:42 <+krisk> true
03:42 <+krisk> its ok for dipping bread in
03:42 <+krisk> but why on earth would i eat bread
03:43 <+krisk> oh yeah haha i managed to piss off that whory girl i know
03:43 < jr19> i dont really use it for anything anymore
03:43 < jr19> by calling her whory?
03:43 <+krisk> nah
03:44 <+krisk> she told me she was going to have a picknick with that girl friend of hers who has a 40 year old guy to fuck
03:44 <+krisk> and she fucks a 32 year old guy
03:44 <+krisk> so i responded by asking if they were going to chatter together about their fuckbuddies
03:45 <+krisk> *chitchat about
03:49 < ports> Today, I was peeing in a urinal at a bar. A drunk guy comes in, and seeing no urinals open, he decides to pee between my legs from behind me. He didn't have good aim. FML
03:49 < ports> oh man oh man
03:50 <+krisk> haha
03:54 < jr19> why did she get mad about that
03:54 <+krisk> idk
03:55 < jr19> shes obviously somewhat embarrassed if she got mad
03:55 <+krisk> yeah
03:55 <+krisk> thats why i loled
03:55 <+krisk> if she was insulted about it then she knows its fucked up so why do it
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03:56 <+krisk> at least its a good moment to apply a negative people filter on my contacts list again
03:57 <+krisk> begone fuckups, begone
04:05 < ports> i think i have a caffeine buzz
04:05 <+krisk> being awesome buzz trumps caffeine buzz
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04:10 < jr19> heh
04:10 < jr19> i finally got the data to show up
04:10 < jr19> the grouping in my report was fucked up
04:11 < jr19> large sql statement = win, report writing = fail
04:12 <+krisk> access?
04:16 < jr19> no
04:17 < jr19> i'm using crystal reports with sql server 2008
04:17 <+krisk> cool
04:17 <+krisk> i have seen crystal yet
04:18 < jr19> its pretty good for throwing together nice looking reports using your data in a quick way
04:26 <+krisk> fun
04:31 < jr19> now to transfer 313mb over a shitty connection
04:31 < jr19> this might take the better part of a day
04:32 <+krisk> lol
04:33 < jr19> actually its going faster than expected, already at 5%
04:33 < jr19> speaking of large file transfers, i noticed that hurt locker was done downloading
04:34 < jr19> it was probably done downloading a long time ago
04:34 < jr19> but i didnt notice
04:34 <+krisk> cool
04:34 <+krisk> i thought you had already said it was done
04:34 <+krisk> maybe you forgot
04:34 < jr19> did i say that yesterday, i dont know
04:35 < jr19> i havent been able to use my computer at home since monday
04:35 <+krisk> how did court meeting go
04:35 < jr19> i guess she pled not guilty and now she has to go back october 14
04:35 <+krisk> ~_~
04:35 < jr19> i doubt she will lose her driving license
04:35 <+krisk> yeah
04:36 < jr19> she said that she did have to pay a fine for something else though, i think for not carrying proof of insurance
04:44 < jr19> getting hungry
04:49 < jr19> krisk, did you like the movie Office Space
04:58 <+krisk> havent seen it
04:59 < jr19> oh, that surprises me
05:06 <+krisk> oh?
05:08 < jr19> i figured since it was a fairly popular movie that you would've downloaded it and seen it
05:09 <+krisk> i think its more popular in US
05:09 < jr19> maybe
05:09 <+krisk> i havent heard anyone about it
05:09 < ports> ok wow
05:09 < ports> krisk, stop talking
05:09 < ports> just look at this http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/4/2009/07/504x_custom_1248964928114_swedish_football_girls_01.jpg
05:10 < jr19> i dont like blondes that much
05:10 < ports> jr19, i dont like you that uch
05:10 < ports> much
05:10 < jr19> well i like some
05:10 <+krisk> i like ports better than those blonds
05:10 < jr19> but i tend to find more brunettes that are attractive to me
05:10 <+krisk> es
05:10 < ports> man
05:10 < ports> that blonde in the front row...
05:10 < ports> the naughty awful dirty things id let her do to me...
05:10 <+krisk> squatting one?
05:11 < ports> yes
05:11 <+krisk> they all look so generic
05:11 < ports> and the blonde at the top left with the long hair.... id let her help
05:11 <+krisk> 'hot' but generic
05:11 <+krisk> also, skinny legs
05:12 < jr19> do you like fat legs
05:12 < jr19> also, you can watch office space next time you're bored heh
05:12 < jr19> and looking for a movie anyway
05:12 < ports> !t http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/4/2009/07/504x_custom_1248964928114_swedish_football_girls_01.jpg
05:12 <+krisk> no but it means theyre lazy and never do anything but just lay theyre getting filled up by some guy
05:13 <+krisk> ill put it on my list
05:13 <+krisk> i went to the movie store this afternoon and made a list of a few movies to download
05:13 <+krisk> lulz
05:13 < jr19> good idea
05:13 <+krisk> war inc, crashpoint, andromeda strain, vinyan
05:13 < jr19> ive only heard of andromeda strain from that list
05:14 < jr19> have you seen donnie darko
05:14 <+krisk> yeah
05:14 <+krisk> i have s darko sitting on my harddrive ready to be watched
05:14 <+krisk> curious what theyve done with that follow up
05:14 < jr19> i read that its bad, but who knows
05:15 <+krisk> yeah i read that too
05:15 <+krisk> but i also read donny darko was bad so meh
05:15 < jr19> hmm, i never read anything about it before i saw it
05:15 <+krisk> its a good watch
05:15 < jr19> i enjoyed it
05:15 <+krisk> yeah
05:15 < ports> krisk, watch Flashpoint
05:15 <+krisk> the series?
05:15 < jr19> it's a little weird but its ok
05:15 < ports> yes
05:15 <+krisk> yeah Flashpoint is awesome
05:16 <+krisk> waiting for the new season
05:16 < ports> krisk, its about a swat team.. good from the 2 eps ive seen
05:16 <+krisk> ive seen them all so far :)
05:16 < ports> new burn notice tonight
05:16 <+krisk> its great
05:16 <+krisk> oh yeah yay
05:16 <+krisk> ill watch it tomorrow
05:17 <@chronomex> E-J: you mean Barrett ?
05:19 <@E-J> chronomex: yes
05:20 <+krisk> oh nice, im about to go to a friend to watch a movie and it starts to rain
05:20 <+krisk> lulz!
05:21 < jr19> yeah you said it was sunny not too long ago
05:21 <+krisk> yeah it was pretty sunny all day long
05:21 < jr19> i think its the opposite for us, it was rainy all morning and now its going to be sunny
05:23 < ports> make it rain on a mother
05:24 <+krisk> let me check weather radar
05:24 <+krisk> buienradar.nl
05:24 <+krisk> oh its gone
05:24 <+krisk> woo
05:24 <+krisk> quickly now
05:24 <+krisk> bye
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05:24 < ports> good
05:24 < ports> hes gone
05:25 < jr19> what
05:26 < ports> i dunno
05:26 < ports> my eyes glaze over when he starts talking about girls being whores, and how theyre all just running around letting guys fuck them
05:27 < jr19> ah, girls
05:28 < ports> yeah
05:28 < ports> girls
05:28 < jr19> i have no interest in girls right now
05:28 < ports> heh
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05:37 < Merthsoft> BrandonW: 
05:41 < Spengwork> ports, I think he's just mad because they won't fuck HIM
05:41 < Spengwork> hehe
05:41 < ports> Spengwork, haha
05:41 < ports> 2mean
05:41 < Spengwork> "I'm all picky and only want to have sex with girls when it MEANS something" -> "I'm a loser and the whores won't have sex with me raaaage"
05:42 < ports> haha
05:42 < ports> yeah
05:42 < ports> fuck him for being a decent person with morals and shit...
05:43 < jr19> fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
05:46 <@E-J> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/29/rodell-vereen-sc-man-char_n_247245.html
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05:46 <@E-J> maybe jr19 is like this guy here
05:48 < jr19> i just heard a funny radio commercial
05:50 < jr19> E-J: black? no, i'm not black
05:50 <@E-J> jr19: not colour, intrests
05:51 < jr19> lol
05:51 < jr19> i know
05:51 < jr19> that guy must really like horses
05:51 < jr19> "the owner noticed the horse was acting strange"
05:51 <@E-J> like kenneth pinyan
05:52 < jr19> did the horse sit by the phone waiting for a phone call each morning?
05:52 < Spengwork> haha
05:52 < Spengwork> on the sex offenders list
05:52 < jr19> haha i saw that too
05:53 < Spengwork> can you imagine his future dating life "so I'm required to inform you.. I'm a registered sex offender. But it's not what you think! ...I molested a horse"
05:55 < jr19> "see, i got really drunk, and i thought the horse was a beautiful woman, and if you take the 'n' off barn, you get 'bar', so you can see where i'm coming from"
05:57 <@E-J> http://www09.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=What+is+the+cruising+speed+of+an+unladen+swallow%3F
06:01 < jr19> i cant look at most of the links in here
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06:02 < jr19> i generally just look at anything ends in a picture extension
06:02 < jr19> by sending it to my phone
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06:43 < _Digital> E-J, is it an Afrtican Swallow?
06:48 < ports> http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/dailyloaf/files/2009/03/picture-14.png  NSFW
06:59 < BrandonW> Of all the links you post here, you choose that to put the NSFW tag on?
07:01 < leofox> ports: she has a nice ass
07:01 < Merthsoft> hi BrandonW 
07:02 < Merthsoft> address?
07:02 < BrandonW> Sent.
07:02 < Merthsoft> thanks\
07:02 < Merthsoft> ill ship it tomorrow
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07:04 <@efneTI92> [TheStorm] Yes rivereye, it is time to go fishing.
07:04 < Merthsoft> allong with some poison
07:05 < Merthsoft> along even
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07:17 < ports> BrandonW, i put NSFW on most links i post
07:18 < ports> leofox, i know.. id eat a sandwich off of it
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07:29 < BrandonW> Will it be anthrax?!
07:29 -!- Kerm [KermM@cpe-74-66-230-83.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa
07:30 < TD-Linux> it will be lead solder
07:30 < TD-Linux> disguised as chewing gum
07:30 < BrandonW> A minion dumped TI-76.fr ROM version 1.00fr5 for me.
07:38 < BrandonW> I guess that'll have to do.
07:39 < ports> cool
07:39 < ports> is programming different in french?
07:40 < jr19> ah it was good to eat
07:41 < BrandonW> The language displayed is in French, but it's no different than a normal 83.
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07:56 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v krisk] by efneTI86
07:58 <+krisk> yo
07:59 < jr19> did you watch a movie
07:59 <+krisk> jup
08:05 < ports> what
08:06 <+krisk> Underworld 3
08:06 < sir_lewk> was that any good?
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08:06 < jr19> (15:14:30) bmw ports: i would put it in her poop
08:06 < jr19> wat
08:06 < incubus> lol?
08:07 < jr19> ive never seen underworld 3
08:07 < jr19> or 1...or 2...
08:07 <+krisk> the movie is just an excuse to see a goth version of kate beckinsale
08:07 < jr19> ah kate beckinsale
08:07 <+krisk> and some silly vampire vs werewolf nonsense
08:07 < ports> jr19, did you see The Hurt Locker?
08:07 < jr19> not yet, soon
08:07 < jr19> maybe friday night
08:08 < jr19> i have very little free time lately
08:08 < sir_lewk> the first underworld was good I thought
08:08 < sir_lewk> 2 meh
08:08 <+krisk> yeah i liked the first one
08:08 <+krisk> 2 was ok
08:08 <+krisk> this was eh ok
08:08 <+krisk> kinda pointless, didnt bring anything new
08:09 < ports> jr19, ok
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08:18 < BrandonW> Is it pronounced "p-eye-co" or "peeco"?
08:18 < BrandonW> (pico)
08:18 < ports> peeco
08:18 < Tari> peeco
08:18 < BrandonW> So I guess I'm the only one that says it the other way.
08:19 < ports> BrandonW, dare to be different!
08:19 < ports> fight the power brother
08:20 < Spengwork> I've never heard anyone say p-eye-co
08:21 < jr19> pie co
08:21 < jr19> mmmm pie
08:21 < jr19> but i say 'peeco'
08:22 < BrandonW> I refuse.
08:22 < ports> BrandonW, no one told you to do anything
08:22 <+krisk> http://zip.4chan.org/fit/src/1248973461442.jpg   slightly nsfw  but O_o
08:22 < BrandonW> I reject your reality and substitute my own.
08:24 < incubus> those cheeks are a little too circular
08:24 < jr19> i see what you did there
08:24 < incubus> and what the hell happened to her stomach
08:24 < incubus> god I didn't even notice her mid section, wt
08:24 < incubus> f
08:24 < ports> lol
08:24 <+krisk> i am mostly worried by her midsection
08:24 < ports> lol
08:25 < ports> i dindt either till you said it
08:25 < ports> damn
08:25 < incubus> lol
08:25 <+krisk> however i have seen other pics of her and it is most fine
08:25 < ports> krisk, post
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08:25 <+krisk> i dont have them
08:25 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Michael_V] by efneTI85, efneTI92
08:25 <+krisk> ill be sure to post them when i see them again on 4chan
08:26 < Spengwork> lol krisk is back
08:27 <+krisk> oiloiloil
08:27 <+krisk> Posting temporarily disabled. Come back later!
08:27 <+krisk> —Team 4chan (uptime? what's that?)
08:27 <+krisk> :o
08:29 < jr19> ruh roh
08:31 <+krisk> I'm asking /r/ if they have moar
08:31 <+krisk> but posting is disabled:(
08:33 <+krisk> http://img.420chan.org/sa/src/1248967395914.jpg
08:33 <+krisk> what do you think of that
08:35 < Spengwork> fuckable but not that great
08:35 <+krisk> as far as you can tell
08:36 < jr19> is she a shepherd
08:38 < ports> where
08:38 < ports> id have sex with her
08:38 <+krisk> i would let her tend my sheep if you know what i mean
08:39 <+Michael_V> is that a billiard cue in her hand?
08:39 <+Michael_V> or is it a window blind opener?
08:39 < ports> its a horse slapper thing
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08:39 < jr19> "Funny People" is getting great reviews
08:40 < jr19> NOT
08:40 < Spengwork> oops, didn't realize MV was on
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08:40 <@efneTI92> [Netham45] Narf!
08:40 < Spengwork> pardon my french
08:40 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Netham45] by efneTI85
08:40 < Spengwork> :)
08:40 <+Michael_V> it's okay...I used to know how to say "damn the grapefruit" in French
08:41 < jr19> i dont understand.
08:41 <+Michael_V> because a girl in my 9th grade orchestra class (last name French actually) said it once and she was attractive, so I was listening to her conversation from a distance
08:41 <+Michael_V> it all connects!
08:41  * Michael_V thinks he's been watching too much James Burke
08:42 <+Michael_V> (Connections series)
08:42 <+krisk> who is james burke
08:42 <+Michael_V> http://www.youtube.com/user/JamesBurkeWeb
08:42 <+Michael_V> British science historian
08:42 < ports> jr19, i have 10 days of paid vacation left so far
08:42 <+Michael_V> creator of the best educational series ever
08:42 < Merthsoft> hi Michael_V 
08:42 <+Michael_V> hello
08:42 < jr19> you should use them all next week and drive around the country
08:43 < jr19> *starting next week
08:43 < jr19> put lots of miles on that car, get some use out of it
08:43 < jr19> oh wait, you're not getting a car because your car is explodey
08:46 < leofox> sup guys
08:46 <+krisk> soep
08:46 < leofox> I had a weird dream last night
08:46 < leofox> it seriously freaks me out
08:46 <+krisk> oh?
08:46 < leofox> yeah
08:47 < leofox> I dreamt i had sex with my little sister
08:47 < leofox> what the fuck does that mean
08:47 <+krisk> you need to get laid
08:48 < leofox> i knew that :P
08:48 < jr19> how old is your little sister
08:48 < leofox> 18
08:48 <+krisk> in nature animals resort to their mothers sisters or daughters when no sex presents itself
08:48 < jr19> oh, that's not so bad
08:48 < jr19> besides it being your sister anyway
08:49 <+krisk> and/or your mind made a connection between caring for someone and took someone you care about and mixed it with wanting someone
08:49 <+krisk> which can be an pexression of caring
08:49 < leofox> jr19: she's pretty good looking i guess
08:49 < jr19> pic?
08:49 < leofox> krisk: how do you know all that stuff?
08:50 < ports> leofox, whats your sister look like
08:50 < jr19> dr. krisk
08:50 < leofox> jaahaa i'll get a picture
08:50 < leofox> http://94.100.113.36/489600001-489650000/489628401-489628500/489628474_6_Kf30.jpeg
08:50 <+krisk> its simple psychology
08:50 <+krisk> in b4 PSEUDOSCIENCE
08:51 <+krisk> is she single? :3
08:51 < leofox> krisk >:(
08:51 < leofox> she's not
08:51 < leofox> i guess?
08:51 < leofox> i havent seen her in a while
08:51 < leofox> she's in France now
08:51 < incubus> leofox, we supposed to judge?
08:51 <+krisk> jk maartentje
08:51 < Merthsoft> she's upside down
08:51 < ports> ok
08:51 < ports> that was terribly annoying
08:51 < incubus> I'd do her after 3 drinks
08:52 < ports> incubus, after 3 scotches.. yep
08:52 < leofox> ok great
08:52 < ports> leofox, what
08:52 < ports> did you honestly not expect those comments?
08:53 < leofox> ports: I did..
08:53 < leofox> but it still is weird to see
08:53 <+krisk> bros are supposed to make these remarks
08:53 < leofox> haha yeah that's true
08:53  * Michael_V fears if IRC were real life and people walked around with <Michael_V> blah blah on the front of their shirts and all of the /me actions became true
08:53 <+krisk> thay however cannot do anything with bro's sisters
08:53 < leofox> like barney singing christmas songs about teds sister
08:54 <+krisk> juh
08:54 < incubus> Michael_V is alive?
08:54 < leofox> she was kinda like my sister too
08:54 < ports> leofox, better photo please
08:54 < leofox> same hair and also kind of irresponsible
08:54 <+krisk> who is Michael_V
08:54 <+Michael_V> of course I'm alive!
08:54 <+Michael_V> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cze1_cWdF5s
08:54 < leofox> krisk that anal guy that used to kick everyone for saying hell
08:54 < ports> leofox, more body.. less smiling
08:54 < incubus> leofox, oh I remember those days
08:54 < leofox> j/k mv
08:55 < ports> incubus, when Andy_j was here? he was here this morning
08:55  * Tari glues an LCD to a t-shirt and runs an IRC client on it
08:55 < incubus> ports, LOL
08:55 < Tari> that would be interesting
08:55 < ports> leofox, more body.. less smiling.. better photo please
08:55 <+Michael_V> I mean having people stand in "channels" too
08:55 <+Michael_V> when someone walked up and tried to join, the ops would all have photos of hostmasks to ban
08:55 <+Michael_V> and if you matched the photo, they'd kick you out
08:56 < ports> Michael_V, no
08:56 < leofox> http://94.100.113.65/606650001-606700000/606690501-606690600/606690507_6_Vc4l.jpeg
08:56 <+Michael_V> so people would dress up in disguises
08:56 < Tari> And the only sound would be the lonely clicking of keyboards..
08:56  * ports falls over laughing
08:57 < leofox> those arent her normal glasses
08:57 < ports> leofox, duh
08:57 < leofox> I have a pic like that too
08:57 < leofox> http://twitpic.com/5snw6
08:58 < jr19> hmmmmm
08:58 <+Michael_V> my sound just broke
08:58 <+Michael_V> hmm
08:58 < ports> leofox, is her blonde friend 18?
08:58 <+Michael_V> I guess I better restart
08:59 < Tari> network adapter update for me, brb
08:59 -!- Tari [~Tari@mke-67-208-61-74.milwpc.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
09:00 < leofox> ports i dont know
09:00 < leofox> never seen the girl
09:00 < leofox> she has nice tits
09:00 < ports> lol
09:00 < ports> it's your sister so I won't be a jerk
09:01 < leofox> thanks, I guess
09:01 -!- Michael_V [michael@ip68-109-186-79.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit []
09:01 < ports> you should be glad.
09:01 -!- Tari [~Tari@mke-67-208-61-74.milwpc.com] has joined #tcpa
09:01 < incubus> leofox looks kind of like a Chick, I'd do him
09:01 < ports> incubus, i would not
09:02 < incubus> you gay or something?
09:02 < ports> i'm not gay.. thats why i wouldnt have sex with a man.
09:02 < ports> his sister on the other hand... :P
09:02 < incubus> he has to be incestual
09:03 < incubus> the only reason you'd post pics of your sister in a sex hound place like this is to hear sexual rants about her
09:03 < ports> incubus, i had the hot older sister growing up...
09:03 < incubus> EW you called your sister hot!
09:03 < ports> incubus, gasp!
09:03 < incubus> want to talk about it in privatgE?
09:03 < incubus> private*
09:04 < ports> AAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
09:04 < ports> no im not showing you pictures of my sister
09:04 -!- Michael_V [michael@ip68-109-186-79.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #tcpa
09:04 < incubus> sssh.  Michael_V is back
09:04 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Michael_V] by efneTI85
09:04 < ports> Michael_V, do you have a sister?
09:04 <+Michael_V> no
09:04 < incubus> if you had one, would you say she was hot?
09:04 < ports> Michael_V, what's your mom look like?
09:04 < incubus> lol
09:04 < incubus> ports, is YOUR mom hot?
09:04 < incubus> Be fair.
09:04 < ports> incubus, hopefully not like him
09:04 < ports> incubus, she's my mom..
09:04 <+Michael_V> incubus: Why, yes if I had one I would say she was hot
09:05 < leofox> oh btw kirsk
09:05 < ports> Michael_V, is your mom hot?
09:05 < leofox> do you know how expensive bongs are supposed to be?
09:05 < incubus> ports, lol and that other girl was your sister
09:05 < incubus> leofox, yes, go on
09:05 < ports> incubus, id like to have sex with leofox's sister and her blonde friend :P... as long as theyre both 18 of course
09:05 < ports> leofox, no
09:05 <+Michael_V> ports: I will not answer that question on grounds that I cannot form a conclusion about my mom in that sort of manner, and that even if I could, I wouldn't report it on IRC
09:05 < incubus> ports, would you tell me about it afterwards
09:06 < ports> incubus, dude.. id get night vision goggles and film it.. itd be all over the internet
09:06  * Michael_V thinks he needs to set the channel straight
09:06 <+Michael_V> http://www.ticalc.org/images/news/2004-09-27-nickd2.jpg
09:06 < incubus> LOL
09:06 <+Michael_V> http://www.ticalc.org/images/news/2004-09-27-nickd.jpg
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09:06 <+Michael_V> There...that'll kill your discussion
09:07 < incubus> EW
09:07 < ports> whos that nerd
09:07 < leofox> i'm looking for a small bong that wont break
09:07 <+Michael_V> and you're not supposed to look at nickd in that photo
09:07 <+Michael_V> look at the 89
09:07 < incubus> The second one was inappropriate
09:07 < ports> poor 89
09:07 < leofox> that looks stylish
09:07 < ports> leofox, i know nothing about bongs
09:07 <+Michael_V> http://www.ticalc.org/images/news/2004-09-27-nickd3.jpg
09:07 < incubus> Michael_V, he wouldn't be licking mine if he knew what I did to it
09:07 < ports> do you know any jamaicans?
09:07 < incubus> LMFAO ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
09:07 < ports> lol
09:08 <+Michael_V> That's your punishment for discussing leofox's sister :)
09:08 < ports> photo 3 is funny
09:08 < incubus> Please no more, this could only go to a very bad place
09:08 <+Michael_V> you don't want photos 4 through 72?
09:08 < ports> Michael_V, i feel no regret
09:08 <+Michael_V> (actually there are no more)
09:08 < ports> hah see
09:08 < incubus> What would really be creepy if the calculator was dead when he was doing it
09:08 < ports> leofox, got any more sister photos?
09:09 < leofox> I like this one
09:09 < leofox> http://azarius.nl/images/resize/large/iron_bong_marihuana_leaf.jpg
09:09 < leofox> but I hate it when these things have a marihuana leaf on them
09:09 < incubus> that's not really a bong
09:09 < leofox> I dont like how you cant see what the hell you're doing
09:09 < leofox> incubus yes it is
09:10 < incubus> I'm sure it technically is
09:10 < incubus> but not to me! :)
09:10 < ports> grr
09:10 < ports> nerds
09:10 < ports> leofox, i hope your sister doesnt smoke pot.. she'd lose points
09:10 < incubus> looks no more than a bubbler
09:10 < incubus> ports, dude his sister doesn't want to fuck you
09:10 < incubus> move along
09:10 < leofox> ports nah she doesnt
09:10 < leofox> she thinks people that smoke pot are losers
09:11 < incubus> yourself included?
09:11  * Michael_V feels suddenly attracted to leofox's sister with leofox's last statement
09:11 < incubus> lol
09:11 < ports> incubus, not nice!
09:11 < ports> you dont know what she wants
09:11 < incubus> ports, I know I just want her to myself
09:12 < incubus> If I can bow out the competition, why not
09:12 < ports> http://tcpa.calcg.org/TCPA_Pictures/slides/ports.html  - she might like men in suits
09:12 < incubus> lol
09:12 < incubus> that chick on the right isn't related to you is she?
09:12 < leofox> incubus she doesnt know I smoke pot
09:12 < ports> nope.. shes a friend of mine.. used to do beauty pageants
09:12 < leofox> also
09:13 < leofox> i'm not really a pothead
09:13 < incubus> ports, btw what's up with that suit, your hand is almost gone
09:13 <+Michael_V> just a loser
09:13 < incubus> lol
09:13 < leofox> Michael_V >:(
09:13 < ports> incubus, because its on my hip behind me
09:13 < incubus> ports, the right one
09:13 < incubus> your right
09:13 < ports> ah. and its a formal suit.. supposed to be that length
09:13 < Spengwork> ports, your picture so tiny
09:13 < incubus> the cuff is almost past the thumb! how wrong
09:13 <+krisk> haha you say men
09:13 <+krisk> and post a pic of yourself
09:13 <+krisk> haha
09:14 <+krisk> like an attempt to imply you are one
09:14 <+krisk> haha
09:14 < Spengwork> I'd like a nice fitted suit sometime
09:14 < Spengwork> to look snazzy
09:14 < ports> Spengwork, i have a few now.. mainly wear them to weddings and things
09:14 < Spengwork> all I have is a crappy one
09:14 < incubus> ports, you're supposed to be able to see the cuff of your shirt aren't you?
09:14 < ports> incubus, depends on the look youre going for..
09:15 < ports> incubus, that sleeve actually comes down to the right spot.. and the shirt i wore with it.. had the right length sleeves.. i didnt want it to stick out..
09:15 < incubus> ah
09:15 < ports> http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs110.snc1/4928_577511131278_37705721_34080479_4918272_n.jpg
09:16 < incubus> peekaboo?
09:16 < ports> in those one.. i wore a shirt that had 1/2" longer sleeves.. and a more tailored suit..
09:16 < ports> so they came out... but this was for a wedding
09:16 <+krisk> ahahaha i just saw dsp_lords uniform pic
09:16 < ports> incubus, there was thise big crystal center piece... and and my friend took 6 pictures in a row and blinded me from the reflections through the crystal and her big dslr flash...
09:17 < jr19> when you see it...
09:17 < ports> http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v257/77/6/37705721/n37705721_32644826_2042.jpg  - this is me with some old friends
09:17 <+krisk> youre not suited up?
09:18 < ports> krisk, nope..
09:18 < ports> the high school musical 3 posterboards overdressed
09:18 <+krisk> i am shocked and appalled
09:18 <+Michael_V> oh
09:18 < leofox> what kind of fake bro are you
09:18 <+Michael_V> posterboards
09:18 <+Michael_V> what a relief
09:18 < ports> Michael_V, lol what
09:19 <+Michael_V> I was just about to say that looked cardboard like
09:19 <+Michael_V> and everyone looked flat
09:19 < leofox> are you mexican or something
09:19 < ports> lol
09:19  * ports falls over laughing
09:19 < ports> its those cut outs at the movie theater
09:19 < ports> i think that was the night i went to see Kung Fu Panda
09:19 < leofox> ive seen that one
09:19 < leofox> didnt like it
09:19 < jr19> lol he called you mexican
09:19 < leofox> are you mexican or something
09:19 < ports> leofox, mexican? nope.. thats i_c-y.. im Indian
09:19 < leofox> like from india?
09:20 < leofox> or like apache
09:20 < ports> that's the only Indian there is.
09:20 < jr19> "native american"
09:20 < leofox> yeah native american
09:20 < leofox> thats the PC term
09:20 < ports> no, that's the correct term
09:20 -!- millinao [~millinao@c-76-27-205-29.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa
09:20 < ports> don't act like a bitch just because one of your white ancestors called the wrong people the wrong name..
09:20 <+krisk> india is in asia
09:21 < leofox> my white ancestors?
09:21 < ports> it doesnt mean the next generations have to keep repeating that idiotic mistake
09:21 < leofox> i'm from europe you .. *censored because mv is here*
09:21 <+krisk> in b4 some fag claims to have navaho or apache blood
09:21 < ports> leofox, psshh. exactly.. all you white people are related to eachother
09:22 < ports> you all used to trade cousins and stuff across countries
09:22 < leofox> lol
09:22 < ports> :>
09:22 < leofox> thats practically racism
09:22 <+krisk> my cousin was ugly :(
09:22 <+krisk> i could only trade her for a cat
09:22 < ports> leofox, sucks when it happens to you doesnt it :P
09:22 < leofox> but that doesnt seem to count when it's about white is it
09:22 < ports> leofox, the double standard is stupid..
09:22 < leofox> ports it happens all the time
09:23 < ports> but that kid in in the boondocks sure hates honkies
09:23 < leofox> we had a contest for getting a scholarship here in IT
09:23 <+krisk> http://94.100.113.132/546650001-546700000/546652401-546652500/546652500_6_w5DD.jpeg
09:23 < leofox> and they found the only girl in IT with a headscarf
09:23 < incubus> is that a lamb in the background?
09:23 < leofox> and gave her the scholarship
09:23 < ports> krisk, why did you show us a photo with a sheep?
09:23 < leofox> it was lame
09:23 < leofox> the girl looks old
09:23 <+Michael_V> that girl looks slightly overweight
09:23 < ports> what girl?
09:23 < ports> i saw a tree and a sheep
09:24 < incubus> I'd do her maybe just as a weird kinky thing
09:24 < leofox> her arms are big
09:24 <+krisk> http://94.100.115.111/341000001-341050000/341019001-341019100/341019093_6_JkVW.jpeg
09:24 < leofox> lol hippies
09:24 < ports> id punch her in the hippy face
09:24 <+krisk> she's short
09:24 < ports> god damn hippies
09:24 < bsparks> looks like she'd be comfy to take naps with
09:24 < ports> i hate hippies
09:24 <+krisk> she's pretty cool
09:24 < ports> bsparks, only if you like patchoulli oil and hemp
09:25 <+krisk> she comes off kinda closed off and frustrated sometimes though
09:25 < bsparks> ports, I'm open to new things
09:25 <+krisk> for a hippie anyway
09:25 < ports> closed off?
09:25 < ports> you mean she doesnt put out for everyone?
09:25 <+krisk> no i mena slightly arrogant
09:25 < ports> since when does closed off mean arrogant?
09:25 <+krisk> but in a retreating way rather than making pissy remarks
09:25 < ports> because im arrogant, but no one would call me closed off.
09:25 <+Michael_V> I'm nice to people
09:26 <+Michael_V> except on IRC
09:26 <+krisk> hence why i illustrate further
09:26 < ports> krisk, ok
09:26 < ports> Michael_V, i hate people
09:26 <+Michael_V> but that's because people on IRC use bad language and stuff
09:26 < TD-Linux> remember
09:26 <+krisk> most people say im the nicest guy they know. too nice even.
09:26 <+krisk> blub
09:26 < ports> hey incubus
09:26 < TD-Linux> normal person + anonymity + audience =
09:26 < ports> you ever notice how nicest is just incest scrambled?
09:26 <+krisk> most people say im the incest guy they know. too nice even.
09:27  * Michael_V dials the police
09:27 <+krisk> its legal
09:27 < jr19> i use bad language outside of irc
09:27 < leofox> i feel like smoking pot but i dont want to do it alone
09:27 <+Michael_V> *gasp*
09:27 < ports> leofox, loser
09:27 < leofox> krisk take the last train from almere 
09:27 <+krisk> leofox, come to almere
09:27 < ports> no one smokes pot
09:27 <+krisk> reverse hyvemind
09:27 < leofox> ports half my house does
09:28 < ports> leofox, losers
09:28 < leofox> but they arent here
09:28 <+krisk> ive smoked it
09:28 < ports> i havent
09:28 <+krisk> and will see what the future brings
09:28 <+Michael_V> death
09:28 <+Michael_V> destruction
09:28 <+krisk> live
09:28 <+krisk> joy
09:28 <+Michael_V> moral depravity
09:28 <+Michael_V> rotten teeth and mind
09:28 < ports> krisk, the loss of your virginity
09:28 <+krisk> moments of enlightenment
09:28 <+krisk> ports+1
09:28 <+krisk> actually
09:28 <+krisk> maybe not
09:28 < ports> krisk, ^5
09:29 <+Michael_V> despair for all eternity
09:29 < leofox> im looking for a racial slur to insult ports but i cant find one
09:29 < ports> leofox, dont you hate that?
09:29 <+krisk> what race is he?
09:29 <+krisk> fullbred?
09:29 < ports> krisk, hes not sure
09:29 < leofox> indian or something
09:29 < ports> Oooh
09:29 <+krisk> bastard
09:29 < ports> merth is part black
09:29 < ports> like 1/32 black
09:29 <+krisk> haha
09:29 < ports> so he owes himself money
09:29 < leofox> the best ive found is curry muncher
09:29 < ports> his ancestors probably owned slaves..
09:29 <+krisk> your great great  great  great  great  great  great  great  great  great  great  great  great  great  great  great  great  great  great  great  great  great  great grandmother was a slut
09:30 < leofox> and thats not even an insult, curry is fucking great
09:30 < ports> so he owes himself a few cattle, some land, and money
09:30 < ports> krisk, shes dead..
09:30 <+krisk> hence was
09:30 <+krisk> past tense
09:30 <+krisk> and not yours, his
09:30 < ports> that doesnt mean shes dead..
09:30 < ports> oh
09:30 <+krisk> for the 1/32rd part
09:30 < ports> dude
09:30 < ports> youre just weird
09:30 < ports> that doesnt mean 32 generations ago
09:30 <+krisk> it was a wierd remark
09:31 < ports> 2.4.8.16. 32..
09:31 <+Michael_V> 64!
09:31 <+krisk> did i type great x 32?
09:31 < ports> 5 generations ago someone in his family was a whore
09:31 <+krisk> you meant at least 5
09:31 < ports> krisk, nah... im sure there was other sluts too
09:31 < ports> we are just talking about 1 specific one
09:31 <+krisk> anyway
09:31 < ports> lol
09:32 < jr19> yes anyway
09:32 <+krisk> http://94.100.113.47/527300001-527350000/527336601-527336700/527336641_6_ZGcM.jpeg
09:32 <+krisk> hahaha
09:32 < ports> incubus, yo mommas so fat her tanning bed was mexico
09:32 <+krisk> thats a guy
09:33 < ports> thats a bitch
09:33 < jr19> IT'S A TRAP!!!!!!!!!!
09:33 < ports> he looks like such a pussy sitting there eating cereal
09:33 <+krisk> the comment with the pic reads "leave me the fuck alone.."
09:33 <+krisk> haha
09:33 < ports> big fat weak lazy pussy
09:33 < ports> then again.. no one looks tough while eating cereal
09:34  * Michael_V has purchased a new CR2016 battery and a replacement velcro strap and is going to refurbish his watch
09:34 <+krisk> fuck you
09:34 <+krisk> i do
09:34 <+Michael_V> this excites me beyond what is normal
09:34 <+krisk> learn how to eat real cereal
09:34 <+krisk> oatz or muesli
09:34 < ports> Michael_V, does the watch vibrate?
09:34 <+krisk> and eat it like a MAN
09:34 <+Michael_V> no!
09:34 <+Michael_V> it's a cheap Timex
09:34 <+krisk> http://94.100.115.201/376150001-376200000/376178201-376178300/376178276_6_AY7c.jpeg
09:34 <+krisk> im not sure if that is the dude or his gf
09:34 < ports> haha
09:34 < ports> thats the dude
09:34 < jr19> flakes and melk
09:35 < ports> and seriously... super faggot
09:35 <+krisk> of course his gf is pretty cute/hot
09:35 < ports> if he were walking down the road
09:35 < ports> id lean out the window of my car and hit him with something as i drove by
09:35 < ports> krisk, girlfriend photos
09:35 <+krisk> http://94.100.113.87/599550001-599600000/599559701-599559800/599559707_6_SWkC.jpeg
09:35 < ports> lets see
09:35 < ports> no
09:35 < ports> thats nothing
09:35 < ports> and shes far too pale
09:35 <+krisk> pale is good
09:35 < ports> she looks like Elvira
09:35 <+krisk> idk who that is
09:35 < ports> for what?
09:36 <+krisk> in any case she's way too hot for a guy like that
09:36 < ports> http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-photos/elvira-dream-halloween-Zw6MVe.jpg
09:36 <+krisk> reality is unfair and makes no sense
09:36 < ports> that is Elvira
09:36 <+krisk> http://94.100.113.66/605900001-605950000/605945901-605946000/605945986_6_EWO-.jpeg
09:36 < leofox> beeh wtf is that
09:36 <+krisk> ok
09:36 < leofox> srsly ports that freaked me out
09:36 < leofox> she looks like fucking morticia adams
09:36 < ports> leofox, more than the goth eating cereal?
09:37 < ports> leofox, thats the point... Elvira.. Morticia Adams... Lily Munster
09:37 < jr19> haha elvira
09:37 <+krisk> pale is pretty and cute
09:37 < leofox> oh, didnt see the goth yet
09:37 < ports> http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/24/110924-004-66BAD00B.jpg
09:37 < leofox> the girl kirsk posted is pretty cute
09:37 < ports> what girl
09:37 <+krisk> see
09:37 < leofox> cute long hair and a nice butt
09:37 < ports> all i saw was her ass
09:37 < ports> that doesnt mean anything
09:37 < ports> her teeth could look like indian corn
09:37 < leofox> she looks a bit scary though
09:37 <+krisk> yeah her face isnt my thing
09:37 <+krisk> http://94.100.114.71/538100001-538150000/538126501-538126600/538126586_6_f0Tu.jpeg
09:38 <+krisk> but she's still way too hot for him
09:38 < leofox> oeh
09:38 < leofox> tits
09:38 <+krisk> fuck reality
09:38 <+krisk> yay
09:38 < ports> ooh
09:38 < ports> nice tits
09:38 <+krisk> see
09:38 < ports> id fuck her in a dark room
09:38 < ports> i could do it sober
09:38 <+krisk> you could fuck the dude while youre at it too
09:38 < ports> leofox, on the other hand.. id have sex with your sister in public :P
09:38 <+krisk> him being such a bitch and all
09:38 < ports> huuzah!
09:40 <+krisk> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrtA69G15zk
09:40 < leofox> ports good luck, she doesnt like curry munchers
09:40 < leofox> or apaches
09:40 < ports> leofox, lol
09:40 < ports> leofox, show her my photo and see what she says :P
09:40 < ports> i bet shes like OK ID DO HIM"
09:40 < leofox> she'll say why isnt he in suit
09:40 < leofox> and then i'll tell her i know you from the internet
09:40 < ports> leofox, im in a suit on the tcpa site
09:40 < leofox> and she'll think youre a loser
09:41 <+krisk> and shell be right
09:41 < ports> lol
09:41 <+krisk> oh wait im on the internets
09:41 < ports> krisk, bitch :P
09:41 < ports> you punked yourself
09:41 < ports> shouldve just not said anything
09:41 <+krisk> im my own bitch thank you very much
09:41 < leofox> my sister isnt an idiot
09:41 <+krisk> AND NOONE ELSE'S
09:41 < leofox> she has guys chasing her non-stop
09:41 <+krisk> she's a girl.
09:41 <+krisk> its a given'.
09:42 < ports> yeah
09:42 < ports> shes not fat
09:42 < ports> she has tits.
09:42 < ports> of course guys want her
09:42 < ports> what are you .. new?
09:42 <+krisk> pfeh even if she was fat
09:42 < ports> krisk, not here
09:42 < ports> fat girls are dead weight
09:42 <+krisk> sure, it'd just be different guys
09:42 < ports> theyre the ones you need wingmen to distract at bars..
09:42 <+krisk> yes
09:42 <+krisk> and what doyou think beta males do afterwards
09:43 < ports> when youre talking to some hot girl and shes drunk and youre about to go home together.. then the fat sober friend comes over and yells at her and takes her away
09:43 <+krisk> ugly/fat chicks might get even more attention because they seem more accesible
09:43 < ports> stupid fat girls and their high tolerances
09:43 < ports> ive been fucked over by so many fat girls
09:43 <+krisk> most guys wouldnt think they stood a chacne with a hot girl
09:43 <+krisk> literally too eh ports
09:43 < ports> krisk, ive been turned down by a lot of hot girls
09:43 <+krisk> ofcourse
09:44 < ports> one a few weeks ago.. i said hi to her.. and she turned around and went back to talking to her friends
09:44 <+krisk> i have never been turned down by a hot girl
09:44 < ports> lol
09:44 < ports> thats perfectly ok.. i went down swinging
09:44 <+krisk> i also havent met any hot single girls
09:44 < ports> she was just a bitch and i went over there to spill a drink on her
09:44 < ports> but i was drunk and forgot my drink
09:44 <+krisk> lol
09:44 < ports> i wouldnt have talked to me either
09:45 < ports> im surprised i wasnt asked to leave that bar
09:45 <+krisk> http://94.100.115.244/667800001-667850000/667849601-667849700/667849670_6_dY4N.jpeg
09:46 < leofox> fris verhaal, broeder
09:46 < Spengwork> krisk is just angry that girls won't have sex with him
09:47 <+krisk> actually im angry that girls will havesex with me after just meeting them
09:47 < Spengwork> sure sure
09:47 <+Michael_V> I'm thrilled that girls won't have sex with me
09:47 <+Michael_V> because I wait for marriage
09:47 < Spengwork> Michael_V, what about hot steamy makeout sessions?
09:47 <+Michael_V> no
09:48 <+krisk> webcamsex?
09:48 <+Michael_V> no
09:48 <+krisk> phone?
09:48 <+Michael_V> no
09:48 <+krisk> dirty smoke signal talk?
09:48 <+Michael_V> although I must confess that I read an article about the owner of a phone sex company
09:48 < Spengwork> lol
09:48 <+Michael_V> and it sounded like a good business opportunity
09:48 <+Michael_V> they were talking about profit margins and such
09:49 <+Michael_V> but immoral, so I couldn't do that
09:49 < Spengwork> really? your'e against making out?
09:49 < Spengwork> you're*
09:49 <+Michael_V> but it would be tempting to be an investor
09:49 <+Michael_V> depends
09:49 <+Michael_V> nothing wrong with kissing
09:49 <+krisk> if the girl actually cares for you then its ni e
09:49 <+krisk> nice
09:49 <+Michael_V> but why are you kissing?
09:49 <+krisk> otherwise its just easy and lame
09:49 <+Michael_V> you must keep this in mind
09:49 < Spengwork> if she has nice boobies it is nice
09:49 <+Michael_V> what is your motivation
09:49 <+krisk> hormones
09:49 <+Michael_V> how does your motivation compare to what you should be thinking
09:49 < Spengwork> Michael_V, sex is motivation
09:50 <+krisk> its fun for a night
09:50 <+Michael_V> are you placing yourself in a situation where you won't be able to stop?
09:50 <+Michael_V> etc.
09:50 <+krisk> but then its just lame afterwards because youre still going home alone
09:50 < Spengwork> Michael_V, why would I want to stop
09:50 <+Michael_V> because you follow the Bible?
09:50 < DSP_Lord> oh dear.
09:51 < Spengwork> not in the slightest
09:51 < Spengwork> though I do respect it for being a very old historical document, albeit warped towards the jewish side of things a bit
09:52 <+krisk> its a good story
09:52 <+krisk> bit cliche
09:52 <+krisk> and over-the-top
09:54 < Spengwork> what translation of the bible do you follow Michael_V 
09:54 < leofox> i liked the old testament better than the new one
09:54 < Spengwork> because in the different translations to english, a lot of the stories are very different
09:55 <+krisk> i like satan
09:55 <+Michael_V> I like the NASB
09:55 <+krisk> he only kills one or a few dudes
09:55 <+krisk> i forgot
09:55 <+Michael_V> but the proper translations are not at all that different
09:55 <+krisk> god kills thousands :(
09:55 <+Michael_V> Satan would kill everyone
09:55 <+Michael_V> we all deserve death because we sin
09:56 < Spengwork> I'd shoot him first
09:56  * DSP_Lord sighs
09:56 <+Michael_V> we sin because of original sin and Satan in the garden
09:56 < leofox> little boxes on the hillside etc
09:56 < leofox> bbl, weeds
09:57 < Spengwork> Michael_V, are you one of those guys who thinks the bible is absolute fact or the kind that thinks the bible is mostly fiction but with stories that have meaning in everyday life
09:57 < leofox> (the show, not the drug)
09:57 <+Michael_V> absolute fact
09:57 <+krisk> is that show any good?
09:57 < leofox> not much happens but it's fun
09:57 <+krisk> hmm
09:57 < leofox> it's a sneer toward the world in desperate housewives
09:57 <+krisk> yeah
09:57 < Spengwork> so, adam and eve are real people that ate an apple and dinosaur bones are just there to test our faith or something
09:58 <+Michael_V> yes
09:58 <+krisk> dinosaurs were eaten
09:58 <+krisk> by me
09:58 < BrandonW> Are you really going to believe those Establishment scientists that say they're 65 million years old?
09:58 < Spengwork> oh dear
09:58 <+krisk> (more)
09:59 <+krisk> 200something-65 million years ago
09:59 <+Michael_V> just because we can extrapolate carbon dating and the carbon level is such that it would take 65 million years *now* to have that level, doesn't mean it was that way
09:59 <+krisk> doesnt mean it wasnt either
09:59 <+Michael_V> bones can be created with any kind of carbon desired
09:59 < BrandonW> So you believe absolutely in your heart that dinosaurs are not actually that old?
09:59 <+Michael_V> yes
10:00 <+krisk> do you believe in athing called logic?
10:00 <+Michael_V> yes
10:00 <+krisk> and reasoning?
10:00 <+Michael_V> yes
10:00 <+krisk> then you fail hard
10:00 <+krisk> gnight
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10:00 <+Michael_V> BrandonW: I'm going to release some exciting stuff today
10:01 <+Genolo> he gets excited as soon as 4chan goes down.
10:01 <+Michael_V> including secret TI documents (sssh)
10:01 <+Michael_V> I don't care anymore
10:01 <+Michael_V> no point hoarding things
10:01 <+Michael_V> well they're not secret TI documents
10:01 <+Michael_V> but not publicly available thus far
10:01 < BrandonW> To everyone? You're not going to let me carry on hoarding them?
10:01 <+Michael_V> yes, everyone
10:01 <+Michael_V> bits of various programs I wrote, all sorts of things
10:02 < Spengwork> haha Michael_V I have a picture on my home computer of a creatonist coloring book for kids
10:02 < Spengwork> that has jesus riding on a dinosaur
10:02 <+Michael_V> I don't support that
10:02 <+Michael_V> I personally think it's a sort of instant time compression
10:02 < Spengwork> didn't say you did, but I thought it was a hilarious picture
10:03 <+Michael_V> if you create dinosaur bones, does it matter if they ever lived in normal time or not?
10:03 <+Michael_V> to us
10:03 < Spengwork> wait... what
10:03 < Spengwork> stop watching so much star trek :o
10:03 <+Michael_V> I don't understand why people find it so difficult
10:03 <+Michael_V> it seems quite logical to me
10:04 <+Michael_V> why argue over whether dinosaurs lived or not
10:04 <+Michael_V> it doesn't matter
10:04 <+Michael_V> I think the bones were created
10:04 < Spengwork> it sounds like a lame excuse to disregard any arguments to the contrary to me
10:04 < Spengwork> no offense of course
10:04 <+Michael_V> but that's equivalent to having lived
10:04 <+Michael_V> because we didn't co-exist with the dinosaurs
10:04 < BrandonW> The argument is that if dinosaurs lived and lived so long ago, your beliefs are wrong.
10:05 <+Michael_V> you can't ever prove what happened in the alleged past
10:05 < BrandonW> That's quite true.
10:05 < BrandonW> Nothing can ever actually be proven.
10:06 <+Michael_V> perhaps I should be a Christian nihilist
10:06 < Spengwork> you can be christian without rejecting everything people have learned about the history of the planet
10:06 <+Genolo> BrandonW: lies
10:06 <+Genolo> it can be proven that Nikky is not a troll
10:06 <+Michael_V> blasphemy!
10:07 < Spengwork> I'm kind of intrigued how people can still be creationist really, there's so much evidence to the contrary. Taking the bible as absolute fact is silly to me too, there are so many discrepancies between some of the historical stuff and what most historians believe to be true, or discrepancies even within itself across different translations
10:09 < ports> holy fuck
10:09 < leofox> I love religious discussions
10:09 < ports> this sucks
10:09 < leofox> it's like two trains riding towards each other
10:09 < ports> im trading in my bmw tomorrow afternoon.. last night it throws on the Service Engine light.
10:10 <+Michael_V> only my train has a conductor named Jesus
10:10 <+Michael_V> and we won't crash
10:10 < Spengwork> I know plenty of christians that take the more reasonable approach of using the bible as a collection of stories with guidelines to use to lead a wholesome lifestyle, rather than everything happened exactly as stated
10:10 < leofox> you can see it coming from miles away that is going to get ugly for everyone
10:10 < leofox> Jesus was a pretty cool guy
10:10 < Spengwork> ports, open dash, disconnect LED, good to go
10:11 < ports> Spengwork, its from the cooling system thermostat..
10:11 < ports> son of a bitcgh
10:11 < ports> its not something i can replace very quickly
10:11 <+Michael_V> and when they find out you did that, they'll cancel your trade-in
10:11 <+Michael_V> and demand all of their money back
10:11 < ports> Michael_V, exactly.. most id push to do is have Autozone reset it for me
10:12 < ports> they cant exactly prove i did that
10:12 <+Michael_V> I bet you could get them to pay the same value even with the light
10:12 <+Michael_V> they aren't exactly selling millions of cars nowadays
10:13 < ports> i was very annoyed
10:13 < Spengwork> why do you want to trade it in anyway?
10:13 < ports> i had no indicators, no errors.
10:13 < ports> i went for a test drive..
10:13 < ports> and they inspected my car.. i came back and i had 3 bulbs out
10:14 < ports> im trading it in because theres a few things in it that are going to break down soon... and im getting rid of it while they still work.. so i dont have to fix the car just to sell it
10:15 < leofox> wow the white lady from weeds is pretty cool
10:15 < leofox> the bum spent the whole day trying to catch the rat
10:15 < leofox> ruining the house in the process
10:15 < leofox> and she's like fuck *kills rat*
10:16 < ports> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v330/HomeRunPark/photo-24.jpg  NSFW
10:16 < ports> now thats an ass.
10:16 < ports> way better than your lame ass goth chick
10:17 < leofox> oh wow
10:17 < leofox> now she fucks the hispanic guy that threatened her for trespassing on his territory
10:17 < Spengwork> bleh goth chicks
10:17 < millinao> wait are we talking about alt chicks in here
10:17 < millinao> because if we are
10:18 < ports> anyways
10:18 < ports> Spengwork, so thats why
10:18 < Spengwork> no wonder krisk thinks they are all whores
10:19 < leofox> she must be part asian
10:21 < ports> http://www.bmw330ci.net/maintenance/thermostat.php  - i dont have time to do this
10:22 < BrandonW> Any 68k people here?
10:22 < BrandonW> I would like an explanation of what is different between the 92+ and Voyage 200.
10:22 < BrandonW> From a compatibility perspective.
10:22 < ports> BrandonW, is it ok if i talk about car repairs?
10:23 < BrandonW> Calculator talk always overrides whatever crap it is that you're talking about.
10:23 < ports> yoru face
10:24 < BrandonW> I ask so I can make an informed decision about the ticalc.org poll.
10:24 < ports> good idea
10:24 < ports> gotta get your poll dance right
10:26 < leofox> BrandonW v200 has a bigger screen
10:26 < Spengwork> Michael_V, can I ask a personal query?
10:26 <+Michael_V> only if it's in SQL
10:26 < BrandonW> I say they should be combined.
10:26 < BrandonW> Their differences appear to be no more than the 83+ and 84+.
10:27 < Spengwork> this is only to satisfy a personal curiosity, don't worry about us we're not your parents we don't care, but--have you ever masturbated?
10:27 < BrandonW> If you're dealing with a USB application for example, you'd be stupid to try running it on an 83+. And the 84+/SE contains more BASIC commands than the 83+.
10:27 < BrandonW> Memory differences and dealing with that at a lower level are the other major concerns.
10:28 < BrandonW> And from the ticalc.org comments, that's what it's like on the 92+/Voyage 200.
10:28 < Spengwork> because I know, according to your religion, it is probably immoral or something. But from our standpoint it is something that every healthy young person does
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10:29 <+Michael_V> I think there are some larger technical differences perhaps
10:29 < BrandonW> I'm not sure I'd feel right voicing my opinion since I'm not a 68k guy.
10:29 <+Michael_V> Spengwork: That's not an appropriate question to ask, but yes I have. That's part of the reason why I'm a dirty rotten sinner and why we need Jesus
10:29 <+Michael_V> because we all sin
10:29 < Spengwork> ah
10:29 <+Michael_V> people often confuse Christianity with thinking you're perfect
10:29 <+Michael_V> it's not at all that way
10:29 < Spengwork> I know
10:30 <+Michael_V> BrandonW: Try asking some where like TICT
10:30 <+Michael_V> I think there are other differences
10:31 < BrandonW> So much has happened over the years it's hard to know the history behind anything, or why things were done a certain way.
10:31 < BrandonW> Unless you were around for that time.
10:31 < BrandonW> Or someone has very thoroughly documented and highlighted it.
10:31 <+Michael_V> I get sad when I think of all of the early history you get glimpses of by reading early ticalc.org news
10:32 <+Michael_V> such as 1998 and such
10:32 <+Michael_V> most people nowadays don't know 1/100th of it
10:32 < BrandonW> I came into it before ticalc.org had its current design. I thought it sucked at the time, and I stayed on Dimension-TI.
10:32 < BrandonW> Then the new design showed me how good it actually could be.
10:32 <+Michael_V> I remember the blue stripe
10:32 <+Michael_V> I have ticalc.org account #59 to prove this :)
10:33 <+Michael_V> If I ever become successful in life and someone asks me what the best decision I ever made was, that's it
10:33 <+Michael_V> Registering early for ticalc.org
10:33 < BrandonW> I had a 28.8Kbps modem that was struck by lightning and fried, so I was without internet for a month. When it was finally replaced, ticalc.org had its new design.
10:33 < Spengwork> heh
10:33 <+Michael_V> Because if I had waited just a few months, because I really didn't *need* an account, I would have a lame high account number
10:33 < Spengwork> but you didn't get i nthe top 10
10:33 <+Michael_V> only staff members of the time had those accounts
10:34 < BrandonW> The replacement modem was also 33.6Kbps. I felt special.
10:36 < BrandonW> Hey, maybe you can answer me this...
10:36 < BrandonW> How precisely does the hacked backup method work on the TI-82?
10:36 < BrandonW> I know storing from one REAL variable to another can corrupt cxMain.
10:36 < BrandonW> But the 82 does something different.
10:36 <+Michael_V> same as the 85
10:36 <+Michael_V> hacked picture variables
10:37 < BrandonW> That I think involves pasting corrupted data to the homescreen.
10:37 <+Michael_V> there is the full description in the technical info folder on ticalc.org
10:37 < BrandonW> Remember how you'd sometimes see garbage after pressing PRGM and then ENTER?
10:37 < BrandonW> I've read the documents.
10:37 < BrandonW> But specifically Ash/CrASH/etc.
10:37 < BrandonW> Don't they use matrix variables or something?
10:37 <+Michael_V> ah yes, matrices
10:37 <+Michael_V> they have oddly named matrices
10:38 <+Michael_V> and I believe you can then just store to a particular element
10:38 <+Michael_V> to write to an area
10:38 < BrandonW> There's no storing involved with Ash/CrASH/etc., how do those get control?
10:38 < BrandonW> It has something to do with the PRGM menu.
10:38 < bsparks> http://tinyurl.com/mos3qz
10:39 < BrandonW> Also, these hacked backups can't be very large...I think we should have something to conver them to an 83+ AppVar and a small program/application to transfer them to a connected 82/85/etc.
10:39 < BrandonW> convert*
10:55 < ports> i hated doing eigenvalues by hand
10:55 < ports> they were so much easier in python
10:56 <+Michael_V> oh eigenvalues
10:56 <+Michael_V> I remember those
10:56 <+Michael_V> I had a Russian professor too
10:56 <+Michael_V> it made it interesting with the accent
10:56 < ports> mine sounded like kermit the frog in monotone
10:57 <+Michael_V> I googled my professor and found that he had posted a proof of the Poincare Conjecture
10:57 <+Michael_V> which was wrong of course
10:57 <+Michael_V> and he had then retracted it
10:57 < ports> lol
10:58 < ports> me and my calc2 professor used to have useless discussions in class..
10:58 < ports> because i would see different patterns to solve the series
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11:03 < Spengwork> putin is my homeboy
11:03 < Spengwork> that man is hilarious
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11:16 < millinao> well duh, he's russian
11:16 < millinao> russians are badass
11:16 < Spengwork> I know a russian, he has triple citizenship in russian, america, and canada
11:16 < Spengwork> russia*
11:18 < BrandonW> I think I want to build a CableCARD HTPC.
11:21 < millinao> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c5/Vladimir_Putin_beefcake-1.jpg
11:21 < millinao> what a badass
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11:38 < Milyardo> Putin is probably the only World Leader could say he has killed someone with his bare hands (being an Ex KGB agent, even if bioagraphy saus his KGB career was entirely academic, you don't goto KGB training academy for 6 years then just 'resign' from thr KGb and do nothing for another 6 years)
11:38 < Milyardo> *says
11:39 < Tari> http://taricorp.net/media/gallery/961546123_30d085d3fb_o.jpg
11:39 < Tari> I <3 that image of him.
11:41 < millinao> i could imagine him wrestling a bear and winning
11:42 < Milyardo> Wikipedia does say he does hold an advanced belt in Judo
11:42 < Milyardo> so yes
11:42 < Milyardo> he probably would win
11:44 < ports> hehehe
11:44 < ports> KGB
11:44 < ports> it must be fun killing people with your bare hands
11:46 < Milyardo> Eith that or Plutonium
11:46 < Milyardo> *with
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11:47 < mtgrss111> yo
11:52 < millinao> hi
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12:08 < leofox> ý
12:08 < Spengo> yay
12:08 < Spengo> I got my nice custom leather IWB holster
12:08 < leofox> is that for a gun?
12:09 < Spengo> yes
12:09 < leofox> i dont like guns
12:09 < Spengo> you don't have to
12:09 < leofox> i like ice cream
12:09 < Spengo> me too
12:09 < Spengo> and now I can carry my gun everywhere and have ice cream with it
12:10 < leofox> how does it feel like to have a gun?
12:10 < Spengo> no different really, just another fun hobby
12:10 < Spengo> I have a practical shooting competition this saturday
12:11 < leofox> it doesnt make you feel great or something that you have a machine that can kill somebody?
12:11 < Spengo> I have lots of machines that can kill people
12:11 < Spengo> I have a car, I have a hammer
12:11 < leofox> it's easier with a gun
12:11 <@_Auron_> hamer isn't a machine, it's a tool
12:11 <@_Auron_> hammer*
12:11 < Spengo> I dunno, it's pretty damn easy with a car leofox 
12:11 <@_Auron_> but you can be all "LOL HAMMERTIME"
12:12 < mtgrss111> It's a simple machine
12:12 < leofox> i could kill someone with my TV if I tried
12:12 <@_Auron_> in Dexter there was a serial killer that did hammertime :D
12:12 < Spengo> probably
12:12 < mtgrss111> A hammer is a level
12:12 < mtgrss111> lever
12:12 < leofox> but i'd rather watch TV on it i guess
12:12 < leofox> it'd give such a mess if i'd kill someone with it
12:12 <@_Auron_> leofox: that's why you cover the entire area with plastic
12:13 <@_Auron_> so you can make all the mess you want, then bag it
12:13 < Spengo> I just treat my guns the same as any dangerous power tool, yes it can kill people if you don't handle it properly and you have to repect that. Know your safety rules and always follow them
12:13 < mtgrss111> "Please stand here in this protected area, good sir, while I get my hammer."
12:15 < leofox> do you have a safe for your gun?
12:15 < Spengo> not yet, I don't have a permanent residence and gun safes are too hard to move
12:16 < leofox> are you homeless?
12:16 < Spengo> nah
12:16 < Spengo> but I'm living with my parents this summer and then I have one more year of school where I live in a dorm
12:17 < Spengo> I keep locks on the action when I put 'em away though, because my mom teaches piano lessons for little kids and it would be bad if they found them
12:21 < millinao> lol guns
12:23 < Spengo> besides leofox, I only have 3 still --> http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/1072/dscn1046s.jpg
12:24 < leofox> remember me to not piss you off too much
12:25 < Spengo> lol, I hardly ever get pissed off at anybody
12:25 < leofox> why do you even have these things
12:25 < leofox> when you said you had a gun I expected the small one at the bottom
12:25 < leofox> not a shotgun with a scope and a semi-automic assault rifle thingy
12:25 < Spengo> uh
12:25 < Spengo> I don't have a shotgun
12:25 < leofox> how do you call the thing on top
12:25 < Spengo> and technically a semi-auto gun is not an assault rifle
12:26 < leofox> hunting fun?
12:26 < leofox> *gun
12:26 < Spengo> leofox, it's a ruger 10/22, it shoots realyl cheap little bitty bullets
12:26 < leofox> i wouldnt know 
12:26 < leofox> i know jack shit about guns
12:26 < Spengo> the middle one is an excellent all around semi-auto rifle that's very accurate and reliable. I use it for shooting competitions and target shooting mostly
12:27 < leofox> it looks like this one
12:27 < leofox> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/49/Modern_Hunting_Rifle.jpg
12:27 < Spengo> bottom one was for more shooting competitions and now concelaed carry
12:27 < Spengo> leofox, that's quite different
12:27 < Spengo> that's a bolt action rifle that shoots... .308 maybe, a large-bore rifle round
12:28 < Spengo> larger bullets than any of my guns shoot
12:28 < leofox> it looks exactly like yours
12:28 < Spengo> no it doesn't
12:28 < Spengo> it just also has a wooden stock and a scope
12:28 < leofox> the barrel looks same-ish too
12:28 < Spengo> well 10/22s have fatter barrels than they need
12:28 < Spengo> bore size is much smaller though
12:29 < Spengo> 10/22 is semi-auto rimfire (tiny bullets with primer in the rim) plinking rifle
12:29 < leofox> I had a gun like that, but without the scope, i fallout
12:29 < Spengo> if I wanted I could make the 10/22 look all evil and black like the AR-15 too
12:29 < leofox> *in
12:29 < Spengo> hang on one sec
12:29 < leofox> speaking about vidya games
12:29 < leofox> is that a black mesa logo
12:29 < Spengo> yep
12:30 < Spengo> I got the lower receiver from a company that did free laser engravings
12:30 < leofox> how is that gun called?
12:30 < Spengo> leofox, http://www.operatorchan.org/test/src/test39_TACTICOOL%2010-22.jpg
12:30 < Spengo> that is exactly the same gun I have at the top
12:30 < Spengo> it just looks different
12:31 < Spengo> they put a polymer stock on it and some ridiculous tacticool accessories
12:31 < leofox> how many peripherals can you put on a freaking gun
12:31 < Spengo> oh that's nothing
12:31 < Spengo> you should see the shit some people put on their guns
12:31 < leofox> penis extension..
12:32 < Spengo> I've seen AR-15s (like my middle one) with a holographic sight, a magnifier for the sight, a night vision attachment for the sight, IR laser, IR illuminator, regular laser, regular flashlight, bipod, vertical foregrip, etc.
12:32 < leofox> a flashlight on your gun, that is smart
12:33 < Spengo> well yeah
12:33 < Spengo> just a flashlight is fine
12:33 < Spengo> but ALL that shit?
12:33 < Spengo> maeks the thing too heavy
12:33 < leofox> for when you need to kill people at night or something
12:33 < Spengo> or zombies :V
12:33 < Spengo> imagine playing zombie games with no flashlights
12:34 < leofox> or a game where you cant hold the flashlight or gun at the same time
12:34 < leofox> stupid Doom 3
12:34 < Spengo> heh
12:34 < Spengo> you know what people used to do before guns started having picatinny rails to stick accessories on? attach flashlight with paracord, duct tape, zip ties, you name it
12:35 < leofox> I like trains
12:35 < Spengo> I would like a flashlight and a holographic sight for my AR-15 sometime, but that stuff gets expensive
12:45 < millinao> how did they attach laser sights?
12:45 < millinao> they couldn't just stick it on with tape
12:45 < millinao> or any sight
12:47 < Spengo> no
12:47 < Spengo> you need rails for a sight
12:48 < Spengo> same goes for lasers
12:48 < Spengo> though there are some companies like crimson trace that makes grips for pistols with lasers embedded in them
12:49 < millinao> sweet
12:49 < ports> fuck
12:49 < ports> fuck fuck fuck fuck not good
12:49 < ports> this is not goo
12:49 < leofox> it looks like Roos gained weight
12:49 < ports> a guy wearing an ankle bracelet just checked into my hotel
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12:49 < Spengo> personally I'm not big on lasers, I'd rather have a holosight or red dot on a rifle or something like tritium night sights (tritium is slightly radioactive--glows) for pistol irons
12:50 < Spengo> ports, ankle bracelet?
12:50 < Spengo> o_O
12:50 < ports> you know.. the things police track you with
12:50 < Spengo> oh
12:50 < Spengo> I thought you meant a bracelet bracelet
12:50 < Spengo> like what girls wear
12:50 < leofox> haha these things
12:50 < leofox> the ones you have when you have house arrest
12:51 < ports> no
12:51 < ports> the kind they give you excons
12:51 < Spengo> ports, if he wanted to do bad shit wouldn't he take it off?
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12:51 < ports> who knows
12:51 < ports> maybe he'll do bad shit then take it off
12:52 < leofox> i dont think you can just take these off
12:52 < ports> i dont know
12:52 < ports> but hes wearing one
12:52 < ports> that scares me
12:53 < leofox> guys
12:53 < leofox> help me sleep
12:53 < ports> leofox, think about what i want to do to your sister and her friend... thats going to help me sleep tonight
12:53 < leofox> fuck you >:(
12:54 < ports> im kidding
12:54 < ports> i just like screwing with you
12:54 < leofox> it was really weird to look at photos if you my sister
12:54 < ports> what
12:54 < leofox> *-you
12:54 < leofox> what
12:54 < ports> try again
12:54 < leofox> wait
12:54 < ports> your sentence sucked
12:54 < leofox> that didnt make sense
12:55 < leofox> i dont even know what i was trying to see
12:55 < leofox> say
12:55 < leofox> whatever
12:55 < leofox> i need sleep
12:55 < ports> god you suck
12:55 < Spengo> I usually don't have problems trying to sleep
12:55 < leofox> not as much as your mom
12:55 < Spengo> head hits pillow -> zzzzzzzzzzz
12:56 < ports> pa dum cha
12:56 < ports> leofox, is your sister a virgin?
12:56 < Tari> I just went out and got a UPS, yay.
12:56 < leofox> ports hell no
12:57 < ports> ...
12:57 < ports> wrong answer
12:57 < ports> you're a horrible older brother
12:57 < leofox> she has my mother's genes
12:57 < leofox> her side of the family likes the cock
12:57 < leofox> well not the men of course
12:57 < ports> dude
12:58 < ports> introduce me to your sister.. my parents want me to go on a european trip
12:58 < leofox> this is why I like the internet
12:58 < leofox> hey wait what
12:58 < leofox> you're not actually coming over are you
12:58 < leofox> you cant
12:58 < leofox> also she has a bf
12:58 < leofox> who isnt an apache curry muncher
12:59 < ports> im rich
12:59 < ports> and yes my family does want me to go on a trip to europe
12:59 < leofox> do you know how big europe is?
12:59 < leofox> also apparently my sisters bf is a jew
13:00 < ports> do you know how tight... never mind i wont say it lol
13:00 < ports> im done screwing with you
13:00 < ports> you really are a shitty brother though
13:00 < leofox> why
13:00 < leofox> because I say stuff on an IRC channel
13:00 < leofox> it's not like it matters
13:00 < ports> most brothers wouldnt talk about their sister that way or show off photos of her
13:00 < ports> just saying
13:01 < leofox> she;s going to do whatever she wants anyway
13:01 < leofox> she has always done that
13:01 < leofox> smells like weed in here
13:01 < ports> mm
13:01 < ports> she might do me or incubus then
13:03 < leofox> no she wont
13:03 < leofox> she hates foreign guys
13:03 < ports> i can adapt a local accent
13:03 < ports> where are you from
13:04 < leofox> whois
13:04 < leofox> or not
13:04 < ports> netherlands?
13:04 < Milyardo> or not
13:05 < leofox> ja
13:05 < leofox> anyway
13:05 < leofox> it's like
13:05 < leofox> 3:22 AM
13:05 < leofox> ima try to sleep
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13:27 < ports> i got a feeling
13:27 < ports> that tonights gunna be a good night
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13:37 < sir_lewk> http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1320979&cid=28889137
13:38 < sir_lewk> that made me so happy :)
13:38 < ports> chium
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13:45 <@efneTI92> [Tari] Remember, remember the 5th of November
13:47 -!- i_c-Y [~Icy@pool-71-172-215-89.nwrknj.east.verizon.net] has joined #tcpa
13:47 <@efneTI92> [i_c-Y] It's like I'm the last sane person on Earth.
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13:50 < Tari> Huzzah, my shiny new UPS is all set up now
13:50 < ports> my indepenent gwendolyn
13:50 -!- _Auron|G1 [~Auron@m490536d0.tmodns.net] has joined #tcpa
13:50 <@efneTI92> [_Auron|G1] We called it Sin.
13:52 < ports> Tari, how big
13:52 < Tari> 550 VA
13:52 < ports> nice
13:52 < ports> i have one thats 325
13:52 < ports> but the battery sucks.. so i get like 3-5 minutes on it... which is enough to safely shutdown
13:53 < i_c-Y> Tari: brand?
13:53 < Tari> APC
13:53 < i_c-Y> model?
13:53 < Tari> ES 550
13:53 < i_c-Y> so it has the USB cable?
13:53 < Tari> yup
14:02 < _Auron|G1> man Stroids is so close to being finished
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14:13 < Tari> Heehee, SR-71
14:13 < TD-Linux> since when is VA a measure of UPS size?
14:13 < Tari> A defensive feature of the aircraft was its high speed and operating altitude, whereby, if a surface-to-air missile launch were detected, standard evasive action was simply to accelerate.
14:13 < TD-Linux> how about Ah?
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14:16 <@efneTI92> [Randomist] The pycho has entered the channel.  Sound the alarms.
14:18 < i_c-Y> TD-Linux: ... VA is power, Ah is energy.
14:18 < i_c-Y> err
14:18 < i_c-Y> charge on the latter
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14:20 < i_c-Y> you cant draw all the charge instantly without breaking it. usually.
14:23 < bsparks> gmail needs to use imap to fetch from other accounts =\
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14:26 < TD-Linux> i_c-Y: why do people care about power in UPS systems?
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14:28 < i_c-Y> cause you want to know about the max output? and you can specify runtime separately so that people have a good idea of how long it lasts?
14:29 < TD-Linux> I suppose that makes sense
14:29 < TD-Linux> actually what I was thinking was that SLA batteries have a very high power output capacity
14:29 -!- Storm\_ [~TheStorm@25.252.226.166.in-addr.arpa] has joined #tcpa
14:30 <@efneTI92> [Storm\_] Yes rivereye, it is time to go fishing.
14:30 < TD-Linux> but then I remembered an inverter is necessary too
14:35 < Storm\_> Is there a brand of laptop you guys suggest?
14:36 < Tari> I hear lots of people like Lenovo
14:36 < bsparks> yeah
14:36 < i_c-Y> what price range
14:36 < bsparks> lenovo
14:36 < i_c-Y> and what do you want hte laptop to do?
14:37 < Storm\_> I need it form school but I'll be ding Cad work and Programing with it
14:37 < bsparks> I'd get, like, a convertable then, maybe, idk
14:37 < bsparks> depends on the cad program
14:37 < Tari> (Solidworks)
14:38 < Storm\_> and AutoCad 2009
14:38 < i_c-Y> I think id look at the dell latitudes - atleast they're consistent on quality - lenovo is dropping.
14:39 < Storm\_> hmm ok, I've heard some good things about MSI, anything I should know there?
14:39 < Storm\_> i_c-Y, yeah my dad's 10 year old latitude still runs great so I'll definitely look there.
14:39 < Storm\_> My price range will be around $1000
14:40 < Storm\_> but depending on the mood my dad is in it may change
14:43 < i_c-Y> my advice is either get cheaper laptops more often, or buy a warranty on a more expensive one. Consider mobility, etc.
14:44 < i_c-Y> which leads you to ULV or LV type procs, etc. - if the thing is just going to sit on your desk buy a desktop
14:44 < bsparks> I could get 3 laptops for $1000 o.o
14:44 < Storm\_> Hmm Ok 
14:44 < Storm\_> bsparks, I need a midrange one that'll last me 4 years
14:44 < bsparks> buy 2!
14:45 < Storm\_> ~15" screen, fast proc, etc
14:45 < mtgrss111> zomg
14:45 < mtgrss111> < ports> Today, I was peeing in a urinal at a bar. A drunk guy comes in, and seeing no urinals open, he decides to pee between my legs from behind me.
14:45 < mtgrss111> why was this not quoted?
14:45 < mtgrss111> !qadd < ports> Today, I was peeing in a urinal at a bar. A drunk guy comes in, and seeing no urinals open, he decides to pee between my legs from behind me.
14:46 < mtgrss111> :/
14:46 < bsparks> mtgrss111, bcause it's from FML
14:46 < mtgrss111> oh
14:46 < mtgrss111> :/
14:47 < bsparks> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUsTTePBBys don't watch this
14:48 < Merthsoft> hi Tari!
14:48 < Tari> hi!
14:50 < Storm\_> :/ Dell doesn't have any latitudes with dedicated graphics cards :/
14:51 < Storm\_> that's just weird
14:54 < mtgrss111> !quoteurl
14:54 < mtgrss111> !qurl
14:54 < mtgrss111> :/
14:54 < Storm\_> Though I could get one with FreeDOS just for the fun of it :P
14:55 < bsparks> or that one OS that runs off of a floppy disk?
14:55 < bsparks> just use the .img on a usb key with some grub action
14:55 < Storm\_> lol
14:56 < Storm\_> hmm it seems that the search just doesn't have all the options 
14:57 < Storm\_> I wish I could search all of the dell site at once, it would be easier to compair Latitudes to XPS's and such
15:00 < _Digital> that would be too easy
15:01 < Storm\_> I really want a latitude but they don't have the features I want :/
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15:04 < _Digital> Storm\_, why not build your own?
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15:04 < Storm\_> laptop?
15:05 < _Digital> ah, nvm
15:06 < bsparks> what the hell. someone buys a laptop, KNOWING it doesn't turn on
15:06 < bsparks> KNOWING I can't get the charger to work
15:06 < bsparks> and he wants to return the freaking thing?
15:07 < _Digital> bsparks, some people are just stupid
15:07 < bsparks> idk what to do
15:07 < Storm\_> How much did he pay you for it?
15:07 < bsparks> $100
15:08 < bsparks> idk how to handle a call like this
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15:09 < Michael_V> Anyone here want to see TI-84 Plus OS version 0.46?
15:09 < Storm\_> :/ yeah, that does sound a little much for a non working laptop though
15:09 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Michael_V] by Remius
15:09 <+Michael_V> (pre-release)
15:09 < Storm\_> Michael_V, I have a copy :P
15:09 < Storm\_> Haven't tried sending it to the calc yet though
15:09 <+Michael_V> how about testguard 1 and 2?
15:09 <+Michael_V> and instructions
15:10 < Storm\_> nah
15:10 <+Michael_V> and here I thought I had interesting stuff
15:11 < _Digital> pwned
15:11 < Storm\_> You do, but I have no need for either of those
15:11 < Storm\_> considering I have one of them :P
15:11 <+Michael_V> you realize that people used to kill for testguard/
15:11 <+Michael_V> it's supposed to be only for teachers
15:12 < Storm\_> anyways, why does dell charge so much for ram upgrades, I could by 4GB for less than they want for the upgrade :/
15:12 < Merthsoft> Michael_V: where did you get such an old os?
15:12 <+Michael_V> TI accidentally posted it one day
15:12 <+Michael_V> and I am a calculator ninja
15:12 < Merthsoft> score
15:12 <+Michael_V> I grabbed it
15:12 < Merthsoft> also, BrandonW tells me you got rid of all your cool crap
15:13 <+Michael_V> hmm?
15:13 <+Michael_V> you'll have to be more specific
15:13 < Merthsoft> like your magnetic strip reader and suhc
15:13 < Storm\_> I believe BrandonW has it in his calcstuff directory
15:13 <+Michael_V> no
15:13 < Merthsoft> and other electronics stuffs
15:13 <+Michael_V> I didn't get rid of anything cool
15:13 < Merthsoft> oh
15:14 < Storm\_> WTF they want $500 for a blue-ray drive
15:14 < Storm\_> ok screw getting a latitude
15:14 <+Michael_V> get a thinkpad
15:14 < Storm\_> that's just crazy
15:14 <+Michael_V> be a real man and get a real man's laptop
15:14 <+Michael_V> designed for durability and reliability
15:15 < Merthsoft> i havee an inspiron
15:15 < Storm\_> Michael_V, latitudes are great for that also
15:15 <+patz2009> I have an HP laptop that came with a blu-ray drive, for $700 =/
15:15 <+Michael_V> no they aren't
15:15 < bsparks> FUCK >.<
15:15 < Storm\_> Michael_V, my dad's 10 year old one is
15:15 <+Michael_V> a common fallacy...even the worst products will still have some operational after 10 years
15:16 <@E-J> your dad is 10-year-old?
15:16 < Storm\_> dad's
15:16 < bsparks> the guy wants to return the damn thing if he can't get someone to fix it, wtf is that bullcrap
15:17 < Storm\_> Michael_V, I've known many latitudes that have lasted quite a while, but maybe the newer ones aren't at good
15:17 <+Michael_V> http://www.radicalsoft.org/michael/misc.zip
15:17 <+Michael_V> 12 MB
15:17 <+Michael_V> my bandwidth is limited
15:17 <+Michael_V> only download if you want to get some interesting programming files
15:17 < Merthsoft> bsparks: did you already get your money?
15:18 <+Michael_V> including undocumented B_CALLs
15:18 < bsparks> Michael_V, yeah
15:18 < bsparks> err, Merthsoft 
15:18 <@E-J> Michael_V: that's music for BrandonW's ears
15:18 < Merthsoft> bsparks: tell him to piss off
15:19 <+Michael_V> E-J: I think he knows about them already
15:19 < bsparks> Merthsoft, I would, but he knows where I live
15:19 < Merthsoft> tell him he bought it already, and that was not part of the deal
15:19 <+Michael_V> don't forget the Ferengi Rules of Acquisition
15:19 <+Michael_V> first rule
15:20 < bsparks> he's just unhappy because I had it on earlier today off of battery power, and I couldn't get the damn power adapter working
15:20 <+Michael_V> once you have their money, never give it back
15:20 < bsparks> Michael_V, once he knows my address...
15:20 < Merthsoft> but you made that clear
15:20 <+Michael_V> the 19th rule
15:20 <+Michael_V> Satisfaction is not guaranteed
15:21 < mtgrss111> geez
15:21 < Merthsoft> what's DuckOS?
15:21 <+Michael_V> I had a multithreaded OS for the 73
15:21 <+Michael_V> well and the 83+...it kind of switched to the 73
15:21 < Merthsoft> it's in the 83+ folder
15:22 <+Michael_V> and I called it DuckIE and DuckOE at times
15:22 <+Michael_V> so I've even confused myself
15:22 <+Michael_V> yes but it's for hte 73
15:22 <+Michael_V> *the
15:22 <+Michael_V> it supported multithreaded programs
15:22 < Merthsoft> quack.inc
15:22 <+Michael_V> you ran ld hl,thread1 \ call AddThread
15:22 <+Michael_V> etc.
15:22 <+Michael_V> and it'd slice up the time and run them
15:22 <+Michael_V> ridiculously simple really
15:22 < Merthsoft> but happens if i put it on my 84?
15:23 <+Michael_V> err by OS I mean shell
15:23 <+Michael_V> flash app :)
15:23 <+Michael_V> only the 73 version was runnable
15:23 < Merthsoft> aw
15:23 < Tari> haha, Calc Stats
15:23 <+Michael_V> but I may suggestion 83+\information\sdkbeta.txt
15:23 < Tari> that's awesome
15:23 <+Michael_V> *suggest
15:23 < Randomist> Is fifteen megahertz enough to even do anything useful with multithreading?
15:23 <+Michael_V> as well as 83+\information\*.doc
15:24 <+Michael_V> sure it is
15:24 < Storm\_> Hmm Levono wants even more than dell for a blue-ray drive
15:24 < Storm\_> I guess I'll go without
15:24 <+Michael_V> well you get what you pay for
15:24 <+Michael_V> but there are discounts available
15:24 < Merthsoft> what's izzard?
15:24 <+Michael_V> I get a shareholder discount from IBM
15:24 <+Michael_V> still
15:24 <+Michael_V> try lenovo.com/ibmspp
15:25 < Merthsoft> Izzard is a 99% Ion-compatible shell for the 83+. It features an unique GUI and security features.
15:25 <+Michael_V> junk :)
15:25 <+Michael_V> Izzard is on ticalc.org
15:25 <+Michael_V> just a "me too" shell 
15:25 < Merthsoft> Inferno is an 99% Ion compatible shell for the 83+. It runs Ion programs. 
15:25 < Merthsoft> how many of these things did you make?!
15:25 < Storm\_> Michael_V, Hmm I wonder if my grandpa is eligible, he used to work for IBM
15:26 <+Michael_V> I received a cease and desist about Inferno
15:26 <@E-J> Michael_V sounds little like kerm with all those different programs
15:26 <+Michael_V> Storm\_: try registered with an account
15:26 <+Michael_V> I can give you the secret passcode if that's what they still use
15:26 < Merthsoft> from whom?
15:26 <+Michael_V> some company in the UK
15:26 <+Michael_V> they had an OS called Inferno
15:26 < Merthsoft> ha
15:26 <+Michael_V> http://www.vitanuova.com/inferno/
15:26 <+Michael_V> I was impressed at the postage they spent to get it to me
15:26 <+Michael_V> it makes it worthwhile :)
15:27 <+Michael_V> I didn't really care about taking it down
15:27 < mtgrss111> I don't believe it......
15:27 <+Michael_V> *try registering
15:27 < mtgrss111> Omni attacked my youtube account!
15:27 <+Michael_V> my typing is terrible tonight
15:27 < mtgrss111> :O
15:27 < sir_lewk> Storm\_: I get a discount from lenovo because my grandfather worked for them for years
15:28 < sir_lewk> also he has a bunch of ibm stock, so that may be it too
15:28 < sir_lewk> also, hi Michael_V!
15:28 <+Michael_V> hello
15:28 <+Michael_V> I don't think Lenovo really checks on the discount
15:28 <+Michael_V> they changed the way the site used to be
15:28 < Randomist> mtgrss111:  Ha-ha, what'd you say to activate the living nuke this time?
15:28 <+Michael_V> you used to enter a 6 digit code
15:28 < Storm\_> Hmm ok cool, I still have My grandpa's old IBM Aptiva It media Bay is awesome :P
15:28 < Merthsoft> whats salmon
15:29 <+Michael_V> but now you have to register
15:29 <+Michael_V> but worth a try
15:29 <+Michael_V> one of Dan Englender's apps
15:29 < Merthsoft> wats it do?
15:29 <@E-J> Merthsoft: fish
15:29 <+Michael_V> you'd have to have read Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency to appreciate it
15:29 < Randomist> Merthsoft:  Swims upstream.
15:29 < sir_lewk> my father got a thinkpad for my mom with my grandfathers discount about half a year ago, dunno the details
15:29 < mtgrss111> Randomist: I merely remarked that TI-Boy would probably never be good enough to be satisfactorily playable. And I think he took offense to that :/
15:29 < sir_lewk> I got my thinkpad nearly %50 off with various discounts
15:30 < Merthsoft> what's triton?
15:30 < sir_lewk> wait, Omni made ti-boy?
15:30 <+Michael_V> actually I'd like for Storm\_ to register and see what is required (I'm curious but lazy)
15:30 <+Michael_V> Merthsoft: something that will bother BrandonW I'm sure
15:30 < Merthsoft> lol why?
15:30 < Randomist> mtgrss111:  You should piss him ouff into making a "Just fucking stop!" video.
15:31 <+Michael_V> Merthsoft: there is a readme.doc you know with a table of contents
15:31 < Merthsoft> oh i did not
15:31 <+Michael_V> because it's a third party replacement OS from DS
15:31 < Storm\_> Michael_V, If your on tomorrow I'll let you know
15:31 <+Michael_V> from 2001
15:31 < Merthsoft> sorry
15:31 < mtgrss111> No.
15:31 <+Michael_V> Storm\_: sure
15:31 < mtgrss111> Just because he abuses youtube doesn't mean I have too.
15:31 < Merthsoft> i like nomiss
15:31 < Storm\_> I really need to see if that media Bay will work in my newer comp with ISA
15:31 < sir_lewk> Michael_V: well BrandonW *is* making a replacement OS for 83+ line calcs right now ;)
15:32 < mtgrss111> However, I would not object to you all abusing youtube and voting 5 stars on my video :)
15:32 < Randomist> mtgrss111:  It would be priceless.  Maybe you could point Steve Porter to it to do a remix.  :P
15:32 <+Michael_V> yes well he thinks he's the first to really get it going :)
15:32 < mtgrss111> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vkh6a0PtcQE&feature=email
15:32 <+Michael_V> and he is really I suppose
15:32 <+Michael_V> triton didn't do much
15:32 < mtgrss111> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vkh6a0PtcQE
15:32 <+Michael_V> but still it had a start
15:32 < Storm\_> Michael_V, you do know that Tari has been working on one for a while also
15:33 <+Michael_V> yes but not in 2001
15:33 < Storm\_> I know
15:33 < Storm\_> I don't think tari had a graphing calculator in 2001 ;p
15:33 < Tari> CEPTIC is a nice reference..
15:33 < Tari> Especially for silent linking
15:33 <+Michael_V> so I realized today that I actually "invested" in calculators and outperformed the stock market
15:34 <+Michael_V> by coincidence, I bought many of my calculators in 2000-2001...
15:34 < mokomull> Michael_V: You are an odd duck.
15:34 <+Michael_V> and sold a few of them starting in 2003
15:34 <+Michael_V> ending in 2009 (still have a few left of course)
15:34 <+Michael_V> so getting about 2/3 of my initial investment back, I'm way ahead of stocks
15:34 <+Michael_V> over an 8 year period or such
15:34 <+Michael_V> fantastic
15:35  * Randomist does not have Flash installed.
15:35 < mokomull> Michael_V: You also seem to be a black magician. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Vincent)
15:35 <+Michael_V> I know
15:35 <+Michael_V> I used to be behind him in search results for the longest time
15:35 < sir_lewk> lmao Michael_V
15:35 < _Digital> I like how my network switch is like a mini foot warmer
15:35 < mokomull> haha
15:36 < Randomist> Adobe Flash has an open exploit that is probably going to take forever for them to close.
15:36 <+Michael_V> I perform all sorts of black magic I guess :)
15:36 <+Michael_V> is the closest thing I can say
15:36 <+Michael_V> with calculators
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15:37 <+Michael_V> I used to be in gay porn too
15:37 <+Michael_V> thankfully it must have been a really bad one
15:37 <+Michael_V> it was like 2 search results
15:37 <+Michael_V> and it disappeared from the top few results years ago
15:37 <+patz2009> ...lolwow
15:38 <+Michael_V> could be worse...I have a friend with a reasonably common name and there's a porn star with that name
15:38 <+Michael_V> a google search for her is nothing but porn
15:38 <@E-J> !qfind gay
15:38 <@efneTI86> 780:DSP_Lord: <smart_> I just stole my girlfriend's chicken wrap out of the fridge :-/ | <DSP_Lord> ... | <DSP_Lord> girlfriend? | <smart_> Hope she won't mind tomorrow! | <smart_> Yes... | <smart_> Oh wait... | <smart_> I mean.. I'm gay! | <DSP_Lord> pwned!
15:38 <@efneTI86> 1254:Nikky: < Netham45> I'm looking at gay porno
15:38 <@efneTI86> 850:DSP_Lord: <_Digital> smart is so agreeable he has to be gay, or way too eager to get laid by either sex | <smart_> _Digital: Is that an offer?
15:38 <@efneTI86> (Plus 3 more matches: http://tcpa.aardy.net/quotes/?filter=gay&channel=tcpa&search=search)
15:38 < Merthsoft> Michael_V: how does BLUE work?
15:38 < sir_lewk> apparently I am an artist
15:38 <+Michael_V> it sends test commands to the LCD
15:38 <+Michael_V> 1C-1Fh I believe
15:38 < sir_lewk> http://www.johngrecoart.com/
15:38 < Merthsoft> how do i quit?!
15:38 <+Michael_V> port 10h of course
15:38 < sir_lewk> also some marketing hack
15:38 <+Michael_V> I think it's a loop
15:39 <+Michael_V> pull out the batteries quick
15:39 <+Michael_V> before you permanently damage the LCD
15:39  * Michael_V wonders if he needs a warning on that one
15:39 < _Digital> you should
15:39 < Randomist> Merthsoft:  [Alt]-F4.
15:39 < mokomull> Hasn't there always been a warning on that program?
15:39 < Merthsoft> phew
15:39 < mokomull> Michael_V: I love how you just know these things off the top of your head, btw.  :)
15:39 <+Michael_V> I amaze myself
15:39 < Merthsoft> Incomplete app for allowing fast typing in the BASIC editor. Has auto-complete of common words. you should finish that
15:39 <+Michael_V> it's been years too
15:40 < mokomull> I know, I was in like 7th grade when I found that.
15:40 <+Michael_V> Merthsoft: Now you can finish it!
15:40 < mokomull> so like ... 7 years ago or so.
15:40 < Merthsoft> i suppose
15:40 < Merthsoft> i really really need to learn z80
15:40 <+Michael_V> I'm looking for my BLUE video now
15:40 <+Michael_V> http://michael.detachedsolutions.com/pics/lcd.mov
15:41 <+Michael_V> look at the edges
15:41 < Randomist> Merthsoft:  How goes the Linux?
15:41 < Merthsoft> Michael_V: that's what happened to mine
15:41 < Merthsoft> Randomist: It's good
15:41 < Tari> I have to go down 16 results on google for someone who isn't me- someone in Australia who has an airstrip
15:41 < Merthsoft> got it all set up
15:41 < Merthsoft> i can ssh into it now
15:41 <+Michael_V> Merthsoft: well if you don't leave it for a few minutes, you're probably fine
15:42 < Merthsoft> yeah it's ok
15:42 <+Michael_V> You should learn ASM
15:42 <+Michael_V> Once upon a time I didn't know anything
15:42 < Merthsoft> i know mips
15:42 <+Michael_V> my first program was a lockdown program for the 82
15:42 <+Michael_V> it had a hard coded 4 digit password
15:43 < Randomist> First ASM program?
15:43 <+Michael_V> but I didn't know what I was doing so, it did something like cp k2 \ jr z,NextDigit
15:43 <+Michael_V> yes
15:43 <+Michael_V> first ASM
15:43 < Storm\_> Michael_V, I think a fue people even know the opcodes for that from memory
15:43 <+Michael_V> so if you just hit all of the digits and did that again 4 times, it'd let you back to the OS
15:43 <+Michael_V> it didn't restart for a wrong key
15:44 < Randomist> I don't remember what my first one was.  I don't know if it was the closed-captioning program, the homescreen cursor, or Moshpit.
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15:44 < Storm\_> Ooh thinkpads have ddr3 :D
15:44 < Merthsoft> mine was ah
15:44 < Merthsoft> um
15:44 <+Michael_V> yet to be determined!
15:44 <+Michael_V> get learning
15:45 < Merthsoft> no no
15:45 < Storm\_> My first asm program was an app that resends the contrast every kep press to compensate for borked LCD's
15:45 < Merthsoft> i've made a couple programs
15:45 < Merthsoft> my first one moved a pixel around the screen when you pressed a key
15:46 < Storm\_> Merthsoft, we were talking asm
15:46 < Merthsoft> second one was a maze
15:46 <+Michael_V> as long as you want to learn, you'll be a master in no time
15:46 < Merthsoft> Storm\_: yeah
15:46 < Merthsoft> i am
15:46 < mokomull> I kinda want to pick up x86_64 assembly again
15:46 < Tari> I can vouch for the master-in-no-time-if-willing-to-learn thing.
15:46 < Merthsoft> http://pastebin.com/m49ed9c67
15:46  * Michael_V has no idea how he wrote things
15:46 <+Michael_V> like Emu8x and Cabamap
15:46 < Storm\_> lol
15:46 <+Michael_V> I look at them a few years later and while I understand what I did, I don't know how I came up with it
15:47 <+Michael_V> I never think I'll be able to ever do it again
15:47 < Merthsoft> http://pastebin.com/m1c017c5b this is my second one
15:47 < Storm\_> See Merthsoft your already better than me :P
15:48 < Merthsoft> not better than Michael_V though
15:48 < Tari> I should pick up 68k assembly again, then get to work on a TI-z80 emulator
15:48 <+Michael_V> Merthsoft: those seem quite good actually
15:48 < Storm\_> Tari Learn ARM ASM and make one for my phone :P
15:48 < Merthsoft> you know, college
15:48 <+Michael_V> better than I was expecting
15:48 <+Michael_V> better than my early efforst
15:48 <+Michael_V> *efforts
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15:48 < Merthsoft> hey there, i'm no dummy
15:49 <+Michael_V> when you use "or a" instead of "cp 0" then you've improved :)
15:49 < Merthsoft> hrm?
15:49 <+Michael_V> and look, it's Joel of BASM!
15:50 <+Michael_V> Merthsoft: faster and one byte smaller
15:50 < Merthsoft> how does it work?
15:50 < Merthsoft> i forget what cp 0 does, actually
15:50 <+Michael_V> you OR A with itself...the result is only zero if A was zero
15:50 <+Michael_V> checks if A == 0
15:50 < Merthsoft> cp      0                               ; If A == zero
15:51 <+Michael_V> normally you'd have cp 13 or whatever...but zero is a case you can optimize
15:51 < sir_lewk> I've heard of weird whitespacing in code, but that's absurd ;P
15:51 <+Michael_V> some people tab like that
15:51 < Merthsoft> sir_lewk: yeah that copied weirdly
15:51 <+Michael_V> I use a space
15:52 < Spengo> Michael_V, how long until you get your degree?
15:52 < Merthsoft> and that's all i did with z80
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15:52 <+Michael_V> Probably the most fun line of ASM I ever typed was "ld sp,speedstack"
15:52 <+Michael_V> in Emu8x
15:52 < Storm\_> I try to keep my comments in the same column but yeah thats kinda extreme
15:52 < Merthsoft> i've done a fair bit of mips though
15:52 <+Michael_V> speedstack being an equate to a memory location where I stored some stuff
15:52 <+Michael_V> it was just fun to say
15:53 <+Michael_V> Spengo: I have my degree...it's on for a law degree next
15:53 < Storm\_> I like the look of a customised Thinkpad T500 :)
15:53 < Spengo> Michael_V, how long you planning on staying in school?
15:53 < sir_lewk> I indent with \t and align with spaces
15:53 < Storm\_> But I'm gonna look at the Dell XPS's and maybe some of the MSI laptops
15:53 <+Michael_V> Spengo: it's 3 years for law school
15:54 < sir_lewk> those T500's are pretty sexy
15:54 < sir_lewk> sexy, like a high class hooker
15:54 < sir_lewk> ie, expensive :P
15:54 < mokomull> Storm\_: I'm a big fan of business-line laptops, and Dell seems to have fucked up their Latitude line bigtime.
15:54 <+Michael_V> I was in middle school when I started with calculators
15:54 <+Michael_V> as in 6th grade
15:54 < sir_lewk> I was 7th/8th grade when I started
15:55 <+Michael_V> if Thinkpads are like high class hookers, I want to legalize prostitution
15:55 <+Michael_V> actually I have an X61s
15:55 < sir_lewk> :D
15:55 <+Michael_V> oh no :P
15:55 < sir_lewk> I've got a T60p
15:55 <+Michael_V> I put ubuntu 9.04 on
15:55 < Storm\_> mokomull, Yeah I agree
15:55 <+Michael_V> it ran perfectly out of the box
15:55 <+Michael_V> even the hardware sound volume buttons and such
15:55 <+Michael_V> I was blown away
15:55 <@E-J> übernerds
15:55 <+Michael_V> brightness, everything
15:55 < sir_lewk> <== using Fedora 12
15:56 <+Michael_V> the only thing I had to adjust was adding a few lines to get scrolling while holding down the middle mouse button to work
15:56 < Storm\_> I've seen lots of old latitudes that are great but these new ones just don't look as good.
15:56 < mokomull> I have a T61 running Ubuntu (well, Ubuntu + IBM internal mods)
15:56 <@E-J> this server where my shell is uses 9.04b
15:56 < sir_lewk> yeah, I have my touchpad acting just as a "scrollpad"
15:56 <+Michael_V> I have the 8 cell extended battery for the X61s too
15:56 <+Michael_V> it's my dream that one day there will be a day-long power outage
15:56 < TD-Linux> I have a T61p
15:56 <+Michael_V> and while everyone else is freaked out, I'll just take out and swap in the extended battery
15:56 < mokomull> Storm\_: I have a D-series, which works great, but I wouldn't buy an E-series.  I'd probably go with a Thinkpad or *maybe* one of HP's business models.
15:56 < TD-Linux> IBM designs their thinkpads especially to work with Linux
15:56 <+Michael_V> and laugh vigorously
15:57 < TD-Linux> and they contribute to Linux to make it work with Thinkpads :)
15:57 < TD-Linux> they released a BIOS update that fixed volume controls for Linux for my T61p :)
15:57 < Storm\_> heh OK thinkpad it is
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15:57 < Storm\_> though I will look at MSI just for the heck of it
15:57 < mokomull> TD-Linux: I don't know if IBM actually designed the T61-series...
15:57 < TD-Linux> fine, lenovo continues the tradition
15:58 < TD-Linux> as far as I can tell
15:58 <+Michael_V> Lenovo had been making them anyway
15:58 < TD-Linux> use internets to make sure, of course
15:58 < mokomull> Yeah, they've managed not to fuck it up.  I'm proud of them.
15:58 <+Michael_V> the actual manufacturing I believe
15:58 <+Michael_V> it's not like you had guys in IBM polos in China at the factory
15:58 < mokomull> heh
15:58 < Storm\_> Isn't levono owed partly by IBM anyway?
15:58 < TD-Linux> I have an IBM polo
15:58 <+Michael_V> not sure
15:58 < mokomull> I want an IBM polo :D
15:59 < mokomull> Instead, I have an IBM badge :)
15:59 <+Michael_V> I have my TI-83 Plus Developer Apps polo from when I wrote Area Formulas in 2001
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15:59 <+Michael_V> I don't wear it generally
15:59 <+Michael_V> it still fits me though
15:59 < TD-Linux> and an AS/400 mug
15:59 <+Michael_V> it was a bit large at the time
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15:59 < Storm\_> I'm usre I could get some of my grandpa's old IBM stuff
16:00 < Storm\_> but yeah If I can get a discount through him I'm sold on levono.
16:00 < TD-Linux> 15% for employees
16:00 <+Michael_V> I think you can get the discount regardless
16:00 <+Michael_V> they don't seem to care
16:00 <+Michael_V> I bet that if you register for the account it'll just let you
16:00 < mokomull> Yeah, I think you can pretty much just use any employee's serial number and it doesn't matter
16:00 <+Michael_V> well I'm talking shareholder discount, but same thing
16:00 < TD-Linux> Michael_V: can't remember how I got discount :?
16:00 < mokomull> my serial number still doesn't work in the EPP site though >_>
16:01 <@E-J> so everyone should use mokomull's serial?
16:01 <@E-J> äh, dämn
16:01 < mokomull> E-J: pwned
16:01 <+Michael_V> I think the SPP site is the same pricing
16:01 < TD-Linux> IBM's EPP stuff is mostly fail
16:01 <+Michael_V> they used to send the same code for 3 years or so
16:01 <+Michael_V> 536686 I think
16:01 <+Michael_V> I don't think they cared who ordered
16:01 < TD-Linux> in the IBM building here
16:01 < TD-Linux> there is a room
16:01 < TD-Linux> stacked full of old laptops
16:01 < TD-Linux> working ones even
16:02 <+Michael_V> now it looks like you register for an account like a normal person and it lets you buy
16:02 < mokomull> TD-Linux: Which site?
16:02 < TD-Linux> rochester mn
16:02 <+Michael_V> that must be a fun room
16:02 < mokomull> TD-Linux: Ah, that's where the people that run our dev tools servers are :D
16:02 < Storm\_> Hmm it looks like I'll buy more Ram and a bigger hdd from newegg and get everything else form Levono
16:03 < Storm\_> from*
16:03 <@E-J> don't buy seagate's hdd
16:03 < Storm\_> and then I can put the HDD that comes with it in my craptop
16:03 < TD-Linux> 500GB laptop hard drives worry me
16:04 < Storm\_> E-J, I prefer WD anyway.
16:04 < mokomull> I have a Seagate laptop drive that's on its way out...
16:04 <+Michael_V> I paid $234.77 for a 2.1 GB hard drive in 1998
16:04 < Storm\_> I was thinking a 320GB personally
16:04 < mokomull> I should consider replacing it before the end of the summer...
16:04 <+Michael_V> (laptop drive)
16:04 <+Michael_V> I remember the price to the penny because today it is so painful
16:04 < TD-Linux> I have a Hitachi and WD that are 15 years old and still work like new
16:04 < mokomull> I should be in bed.
16:05 < mokomull> Good night, y'all.
16:05 < Storm\_> My sisters laptop HDD died this summer and we had to get a new one from Microcenter
16:05 <@E-J> mokomull: i bought last autumn 500G seagate, 6 months and it crashed
16:05 < TD-Linux> they have gone through multiple freeze/thaw cycles in my garage even
16:05 <@E-J> cost 100 euros to get data back
16:05 <@E-J> 200*
16:05 < mokomull> E-J: I've had this drive two years, and it's been making funny noises (but reporting healthy status and working just fine) for the last about 6mo.
16:05 <+Michael_V> that's cheap
16:06 <+Michael_V> the last crashed laptop hard drive I saw, they wanted $1500 because the heads completely scraped the platter
16:06 < TD-Linux> ouch
16:06 <@E-J> mokomull: yeah, they had problems with newer hdd:s, especially barracuda 7200.11
16:06 <+Michael_V> I tell people to back up
16:06 <+Michael_V> they never listen
16:06 < TD-Linux> Michael_V: makes sense
16:06 < Storm\_> Hmm I can get a 320GB 200RPM drive from newegg for cheaper than the upgrade from levono.
16:06 < TD-Linux> they would have to replace the heads
16:07 <+Michael_V> 200 RPM?
16:07 <@E-J> mokomull: i think everything started when they bought maxtor
16:07 <+Michael_V> that's going to be slow
16:07 < TD-Linux> and very carefully clean the platters
16:07 < Storm\_> 7200*
16:07 < TD-Linux> hmm, not sure how they would even do that, the edges of the scraped areas would be all jaggy still
16:07 <@E-J> work ->
16:07 < TD-Linux> some sort of magical polisher?
16:08 <+Michael_V> TD-Linux: I believe they don't get all of the data back, just part
16:08 < jr19> haha work
16:08 < TD-Linux> even part, it would be hard to get those disks spinning again and not rip the head off again
16:08 < jr19> sucker, i will be sleeping while you work
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16:08 < Storm\_> a T500 with descrete graphics is looking real good, the only thing I don't like is the price for the blue-ray upgrade
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16:09 < Tari> so buy one yourself- slimline BD drives can be had pretty cheap
16:09 <+Michael_V> perhaps you don't need a blu-ray drive?
16:09 < Storm\_> hmm good point
16:09 <+Michael_V> they are still cutting edge
16:09 <+Michael_V> when you stay behind the leading edge of development you save money
16:10 < Storm\_> Michael_V, yeah I guess, but it would be nice to have, though I could jsut get on for my desktop and copy the movies to my laptop
16:10 < TD-Linux> optical media for backup is still not too great
16:10 <+Michael_V> I waited 5 years for Star Trek Insurrection to be on over the air TV
16:10 <+Michael_V> instead of paying for the theater
16:10 < TD-Linux> what else would you want blu-ray for?
16:10 < TD-Linux> HD movies?
16:10 < Storm\_> yeah
16:11 < TD-Linux> do the decrypting programs work realtime?
16:11 < TD-Linux> and BD+
16:11 < Storm\_> I'm not sure
16:11 < Storm\_> I know its possible but I never looked into it
16:11 < TD-Linux> you could get a cheap desktop drive and rip them to your laptop
16:11 < Storm\_> Yeah thats what I said
16:12 < TD-Linux> thinkpad drives are hotswappable
16:12 < Storm\_> hmm Newegg has a slim blueray drive for ~$200, the beats the Levono drive by a crap load so yeah I'll stick with the DVD drive
16:13 < TD-Linux> is the lenovo one a burner?
16:13 < Tari> check Amazon- I've seen ~$80 for slim BD-ROM there
16:14 < Storm\_> yeah, so I'll pass on the BD drive
16:14 < TD-Linux> for that price you could get a HD bay and put a second HDD drive in there
16:14 <+Michael_V> I think ripping movies sounds easier
16:14 < Storm\_> agreed
16:14 <+Michael_V> who wants to carry discs with you
16:14 <+Michael_V> anyway
16:14 <+Michael_V> it's annoying
16:14 < Storm\_> for $50 I could rip them to my desktop and be set
16:15 <@E-J> hmm, is MV talking about warez?-)
16:15 <+Michael_V> not if you own the movies
16:15  * Michael_V points to his stack of 4 James Bond blu-rays behind him
16:16 < Storm\_> Plus levono has a free Win & update which dell doesn't have
16:16 < Storm\_> SO its a win win
16:16 < Storm\_> Win 7*
16:16 <+Michael_V> win win 7
16:16 <@E-J> lin lin
16:18 < Tari> bsd bsd?
16:18 <@E-J> about laptops, brother is getting married next month, i should check that my acer works fine before that, haven't opened it for months
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16:20 < Storm\_> meh MSI isn't looking so hot right now either, I think I'll go Levono, but I still have to talk to my dad about it since he's paying.
16:20 < sir_lewk> I think micrsoft should ditch windows and make a proprietary fork of one of the BSDs
16:21 <@E-J> or buy mac
16:21 < sir_lewk> lol, microsoft buys everyone in the world a mac
16:21 < sir_lewk> I could go with that ;D
16:22 < Storm\_> as long as they aren't running Mac os x I'm fine with that
16:23 < BrandonW> I've gone through Michael's stuff and I don't see anything surprising.
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16:29 < _Digital> test
16:29 < Randomist> ACK.
16:32 < Randomist> I think I want to organize my music so that all the songs are just in one huge folder.
16:34 < Randomist> But, there will be folders "Artist," "Album," "Title," and "Artist-Album" with symlinks to the real songs so I don't have to use some databasing media player just to listen to music.
16:35 < Storm\_> Randomist, what do you use for tagging your tagless music?
16:35 < Randomist> Storm\_:  Picard, EasyTAG, and Audio Tagtool.
16:36 < Storm\_> ok EasyTag is Broken btw, but I've been useing Picard and it seems to wokr pretty well but I figured I'd ask an audiophile like yourself
16:37 <+patz2009> I don't like Picard because it won't link up all of my music files into the same albums, and instead puts them into tons of compilation albums =[
16:37 < Randomist> I use EasyTAG when I need to do some minor corrections to a small folder, but it is very slow at saving.
16:38 < Storm\_> patz2009, yeah I've noticed that
16:38 < Storm\_> but it seems to do a better job than some taggers
16:38 <+patz2009> I wish MediaMonkey would do batch tagging
16:39 < Randomist> I thought it dit.
16:39 < Randomist> * did
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16:39 < Randomist> Or, at least, where you need to change a group of files to the same data, like artist or album or something.
16:41 < Storm\_> Hmm I'll have to try out MediaMonkey, though I may just boot into windows and do it that way.
16:41 < Randomist> That is how I was doing it to get rid of duplicaten.
16:42 < Storm\_> they only reason I want my tagging fixed is from mpd
16:42 < Storm\_> I need to get streaming setup though
16:43 < Storm\_> I wish you could have it play multiple things to different outputs at once
16:45 -!- Michael_V [michael@ip68-109-186-79.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #tcpa
16:46 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Michael_V] by efneTI92
16:46 <+Michael_V> May I interject?
16:46 < Storm\_> yes
16:46 <+Michael_V> so I was looking at the /pub/73/asm folder on ticalc.org and how empty it is
16:46 <+Michael_V> and I realized no one actually has a 73 that I ever knew of (besides programmers)
16:46 <+Michael_V> so I tried google searches for "I own a TI-73" (nothing) and "I have a TI-73"
16:47 < BrandonW> We have no reason to even use the TI-73 OS anymore.
16:47 <+Michael_V> for the latter, I found this: http://detroit.craigslist.org/ele/1273930618.html
16:47 <+Michael_V> It *must* be a real user...it sounds like a middle schooler
16:48 < Storm\_> BrandonW, if you ported your certificate program couldn't your just resign the 83+ os for it?
16:48 < Randomist> Your could have said:  "(have|has|own) a (TI73|TI-73)", by the way.  :P
16:49 < Randomist> * You
16:49 <+Michael_V> that ad is just sad
16:49 < Storm\_> oh wait the boot code issues
16:49 < BrandonW> Storm\_, yes, but you can just pull the battery now.
16:50 < Storm\_> oh lol I didn't realize it had that the battery pull bug :P
16:50 < j-b-r> Google is smart enough to resolve TI-73 and TI73 to the same thing
16:50 < BrandonW> The 73 and 83+/SE do.
16:50 < BrandonW> The 84+/SE have it fixed.
16:50 < BrandonW> "fixed" being used loosely.
16:51 < BrandonW> You can just send a one-byte packet to FF:0056h with data "5A" at the very end of the transfer and then pull the battery.
16:51 < Randomist> j-b-r:  Not in quotes, though it will see "TI 73" and "TI-73" if you use a hypnen in quotes or not.
16:52 < j-b-r> Mmm...
16:52 < Storm\_> hmm it seems the thinkpad R series isn't offered with dedicated graphics
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16:54  * _Digital breaks out his ColHeat Pro to change his HDD activity LED from blue to red
16:54 < Storm\_> lol nice
16:55 < Randomist> I am guessing there should be a "D" in there somewhere?
16:56 < Storm\_> yeah I'm sold on levono due to the Free Windows & upgrade
16:56 < Storm\_> 7*
16:56 < Tahben> missing a ghey, moarlike
16:56 < _Digital> Randomist: yeah ColdHeat
16:57 < Storm\_> _Digital, do you like your ColdHeat solderer?
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16:57 < BrandonW> The ColdHeat iron sucks.
16:57 < BrandonW> I have it.
16:57 < _Digital> it's good for small stuff like this
16:57 < Tahben> that sounds like the start of a meme
16:57 < BrandonW> Actually it's good for quite large things.
16:58 < BrandonW> It's not at all precise.
16:58 < _Digital> either way, I seem to have mispalced my actual solder...
16:58 < Storm\_> Hmm ok, I have one but I've yet to use it, I also have a Soldering gun so I can just use that for stuff the ColdHeat isn't good for.
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16:59 < Storm\_> me needs sleep :/
16:59 < Storm\_> gnight all
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16:59 < _Digital> I have a regular iron too
17:02 < Randomist> I have a regular iron around somewhere.  I have not [de-]soldered anything with it yet.  :P
17:02 <+Michael_V> !qfind ASM
17:02 <@efneTI86> 853:DSP_Lord: * Pwny is now known as AsmRetard
17:02 <@efneTI86> 440:froody: [18:49] <nicolas> so asmand, how's life | [18:49] <asmand> pretty good, lvl 55 | [18:49] <asmand> oh, you ment like.. IRL
17:02 <@efneTI86> 488:spengo: "DarkAuron: GOD; YES; OMG YES | DarkAuron has his laptop running at 1024x768x16 | _Digital : oh, that I thought you orgasmed |  DarkAuron:  mentally I did"
17:02 <+Michael_V> hmm I guess that was a bad request to make
17:02 <@efneTI86> (Plus 10 more matches: http://tcpa.aardy.net/quotes/?filter=ASM&channel=tcpa&search=search)
17:02 <+Michael_V> !q 320
17:03 <+Michael_V> !qhelp
17:03 < _Digital> !qsay 320
17:03 <@efneTI86> 320: [19:22] * [froody] continues to dance around the topic while Kevin_O is here | [19:22] <Hunterkll> seems to work so far... [Added froody at 2005/11/15 19:18]
17:03 <+Michael_V> !qsay 370
17:03 <@efneTI86> 370: <Tommy321> how do i get the text to wrap on my ti-83 calculator? | <tr1p1ea> Tommy321, asm? | <Tommy321> 18 male UCSB | <Tommy321> i live in anacapa dorms [Added cubeman at 2005/12/06 19:13]
17:03 < sir_lewk> yaknow that is a good question
17:03 <+Michael_V> I always thought it was A/S/L
17:03 < Spengo> hey Michael_V check out my awesum new leather holster http://www.operatorchan.org/k/src/k94496_SSPX0160.jpg
17:03 <+Michael_V> that cracks me up
17:04 <+Michael_V> wow, very nice
17:04 < Spengo> indeed, I am quite pleased
17:04 <+Michael_V> I don't think you were on the channel when I mentioned I got my CCW permit
17:04 <+Michael_V> I remember vividly that Nikky was on :)
17:04 < Spengo> oh you did? good for you
17:04 < Spengo> what do you carry?
17:05 < Tari> a permit?
17:05 < Tari> :P
17:05 < Randomist> "Guns are bad, mm'kay?" Nikky?
17:05 <+Michael_V> nothing yet but I'm probably going to get a glock 26
17:05 < Spengo> ah
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17:05 < Spengo> I never cared for glocks much
17:05 < Randomist> * You mean *
17:05 <+Michael_V> I wish they'd let us carry on campuses here
17:05 <+Michael_V> I should have gone to a Utah university
17:05 < Spengo> they are okay, and very reliable, but I just don't like plastic pistols OR subcompact pistols OR double action triggers
17:05 < Spengo> so... no glock 26 for me
17:06 <+Michael_V> I'm going to be at school 10 hours a day or such for the whole semester, and little time spent elsewhere
17:06 < Spengo> CHL holders are allowed to carry on any public or private school campus in oregon
17:06 <+Michael_V> well I like the heavier trigger pull
17:06 <+Michael_V> versus say a M1911
17:06 <+Michael_V> some of those are scarily light
17:06 <+Michael_V> nothing wrong with that
17:06 < Spengo> it's not the heaviness of it, that can always be changed to whatever you like
17:06 < Spengo> it's how mushy it is
17:06 <+Michael_V> I know
17:06 < Tahben> are you serious?
17:07 < Spengo> BUT you might get expelled if the school finds out about it and they have a rule against it
17:07 < Spengo> and then you'd have to go through a big long legal battle about how the expulsion was not legal
17:07 < Spengo> at least that's how it was last time it happened
17:07 < Tahben> so local law trumps state?
17:07 < Spengo> well no
17:07 < Spengo> they can't do anything about it except expel you
17:07 <+Michael_V> schools don't make laws :)
17:07 < Spengo> it's not illegal
17:07 <+Michael_V> that's what they wanted you to think in middle school :P
17:07 <+Michael_V> (and high school)
17:08 < Spengo> not like you'll go to jail or anything
17:08 < Spengo> it would just make your life suck for awhile
17:08 < Tari> But you have to say "That ain't legal!" and sue their asses off if they try it. :D
17:08 < _Digital> Nikky is apparently on vacaton right now
17:08 < Randomist> "But expulsion is not the answer!"
17:08 <+Michael_V> we should go shopping at the gun store before he gets back then
17:08  * Tari --> bed
17:09 <+Michael_V> maybe we can put one of his fancy camera lenses on a rifle
17:09 < Spengo> lol
17:09 < _Digital> if only the worked that way
17:09 < Spengo> use it as a magnifier for a holosight
17:09 < Spengo> it could work
17:09 <+Michael_V> they almost had a bill here to permit carrying on campuses but it died
17:09 < _Digital> the optics are designed to focus about 1 inch behind the end of the lense
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17:10 < Randomist> Michael_V:  You and Nixxy live by each other or something?
17:10 <+Michael_V> no
17:10 <+Michael_V> he's in Seattle
17:10 <+Michael_V> I'm in Arizona, land of guns
17:10 <+Michael_V> and more guns
17:10 < Tahben> and mexicans with guns.
17:10 < _Digital> are you a red neck too?
17:10 <+Michael_V> yes
17:10 <+Michael_V> no
17:10 <+Michael_V> I'm rather normal
17:10 <+Michael_V> I just enjoy my constitutional rights
17:10 < Tahben> hey, can any of you be my fallback contingency spiderman?
17:11 < Randomist> You hun?
17:11 < Randomist> * huh?
17:11 < Randomist> * your
17:11 <+Michael_V> you know, Tahben gives me hope
17:11 <+Michael_V> I never thought that anyone stayed on IRC after marriage
17:11  * Randomist cannot type tonight.
17:11 <+Michael_V> I thought you were supposed to talk to your spouse instead
17:12 < Tahben> I'm working on a text to speech message from spiderman. if I can't get it to sound right, I'll need a real one.
17:12 <+Michael_V> and "grow up" in general
17:12 < Tahben> my spouse? he can go f*ck himself.
17:12 <+Michael_V> I'd like to stay on IRC
17:12 < Spengo> haha
17:12 < Spengo> Michael_V, you are anything but normal
17:12 <+Michael_V> that's what they tell me
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17:12 < Spengo> also I know lots of married people on IRC
17:12 < Randomist> I do, too.
17:12 <+Michael_V> not in a calculator channel
17:12 < Randomist> They bitch about their spouses.  :P
17:12 < Spengo> yeah lol
17:13 < BrandonW> This doesn't classify as a calculator channel anymore.
17:13 < Tahben> I don't.
17:13 < Randomist> BrandonW:  It usually does when you are here.
17:13 < Randomist> And Dalek.
17:13 < BrandonW> dalek_'s not here.
17:13 < BrandonW> It's been a long time since he was.
17:13 <+Michael_V> thank goodness
17:14 < BrandonW> The powers that be don't want to admit to the fact that this is no longer a calculator channel, so I can get away with that.
17:14 < BrandonW> But once they finally do, calculators will be gone and so will I.
17:14 < Tahben> I need to go soon and test my audio file. My daughter is sleeping in here with me, so I can't do it loud enough.
17:14 <+Michael_V> it is a calculator channel
17:16 < Randomist> !t Welcome to the #TCPA | STROIDS IS BACK ON TRACK!!!!ONE HUNDRED ELVEN!1! | Calculators are top priority here.
17:16 -!- efneTI86 changed the topic of #tcpa to: Welcome to the #TCPA | STROIDS IS BACK ON TRACK!!!!ONE HUNDRED ELVEN!1! | Calculators are top priority here.
17:16 < Randomist> Does that help?  :P
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17:17 < sir_lewk> Stoids goes up to 11
17:18  * Michael_V still has the password to tcpa.calc.org
17:18 < Tahben> and the clap, from what I hear from your mom.
17:18 <+Michael_V> unfortunately the site doesn't exist anymore
17:18 < Randomist> Burn.
17:18 < Tahben> scorch.
17:19 <+Michael_V> I don't even know what exactly the clap is
17:19 <+Michael_V> other than a disease
17:19 <+Michael_V> so you lose
17:19 < Randomist> Wikipedia, bro'.
17:19 < Tahben> you know, clap on...clap...off...
17:19 < BrandonW> Are you still telling your mom jokes?
17:19 < BrandonW> Didn't that die out a decade ago?
17:20 < Randomist> Apparently, they're still "classics,"
17:20 < Randomist> * .
17:20 < millinao> Your mom..died out.a decade ago?
17:20 < Tahben> honestly guys, take the YER MUM jokes.
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17:20 < millinao> !k millinao
17:20 -!- millinao was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [millinao]
17:20 < Tahben> because as much as I love my kid, when she starts telling jokes...it is painful
17:20 < BrandonW> We know the feeling.
17:20 < Tahben> yeah
17:21 -!- millinao [~millinao@c-76-27-205-29.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa
17:21 < Tahben> but she redeems herself with her love for technology.
17:22 < Randomist> "I've been writing sixty-four-bit assemble since I was four!"
17:22 < Randomist> * assembly
17:22 <+Michael_V> !qsay 561
17:22 <@efneTI86> 561: * Michael_V brings out the 89 and 83+ with the orange DS slidecases, the 83+ silver edition, and the strobe lights and starts his own ticalc.org party [Added DarkAuron at 2006/06/21 01:36]
17:22  * Michael_V has been perusing the quotes
17:23 < Tahben> omg
17:23 < Tahben> from another channel, bust a move in space.
17:23 < BrandonW> I will forever feel special since being reunited with my DS slidecase.
17:23 < Tahben> I took my DS to infusion therapy the other day, and a bunch of bald grannies are all like....OOoOoooOO
17:23 < Tahben> I predict next week the knitting will be replaced by ds
17:23 <+Michael_V> DS is Detached Solutoins
17:24 <+Michael_V> *Solutions
17:24 <+Michael_V> don't get crazy like Nintendo and think you can make up something else
17:24 < Randomist> Michael_V:  At least they did not send them a ceace and desist letter.
17:25 < BrandonW> What do I have to do to get a cease-and-desist letter? Seriously.
17:25 <+Michael_V> I don't know
17:25 <+Michael_V> I seem to have no problem with them
17:26 < Randomist> BrandonW:  Send an e-mail to Texas Instruments, pointing to all your hacks and whatnot.
17:26 <+Michael_V> perhaps you would like to take over Inferno?
17:26 <+Michael_V> and re-publish it
17:26 < BrandonW> I downloaded that stuff on the laptop, refresh my memory on what that is.
17:26 < Randomist> Or download ten thousand MP3s from fake torrent trackers.
17:30  * _Digital directs #tcpa's attention to xkcd
17:31  * Randomist wishes Irssi will stop putting white on white.
17:31 <+Michael_V> Inferno was a boring Ion compatible shell I wrote
17:32 <+Michael_V> the name is a trademark apparently
17:32 <+Michael_V> some company in the UK
17:32 <+Michael_V> has an OS by the same name
17:32 <+Michael_V> they sent me an internationally mailed cease and desist letter
17:32 <+Michael_V> it was impressive
17:32 < _Digital> server dropped about 2C after I cleaned the front dust filter
17:32 < BrandonW> Holy shit.
17:32 < BrandonW> Holy shit...
17:32 <+Michael_V> it wasn't *that* impressive
17:32 < BrandonW> Something has just happened.
17:33 <+Michael_V> lots of things have just happened
17:33 < BrandonW> I think the 0004 key has been factored.
17:33 <+Michael_V> !!!!!!!!
17:33 <+Michael_V> so you were randomly lucky?
17:33  * Randomist drinks something.
17:33 -!- Spengo [~Spengo@pool-71-111-177-16.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: ♥]
17:33 < BrandonW> No, this isn't me, this is Benjamin Moody.
17:33 <+Michael_V> because the expected time to factor that is....long...
17:33 < Randomist> *Spit-takes.*  WHAAT?
17:33 <+Michael_V> where can I get in on this action?
17:33 < BrandonW> http://www.unitedti.org/index.php?showtopic=8888
17:34 < BrandonW> That key is very familiar.
17:34 < BrandonW> That looks like 0004 to me.
17:34 < BrandonW> He claims those are the factors.
17:34 < BrandonW> I'm checking.
17:34 <+Michael_V> I'm going to get out Cabamap!
17:34 < BrandonW> This is absolutely freaking huge if it is.
17:34 < BrandonW> HUGE
17:35 < Tahben> one more peice of cacacake?
17:35 < Randomist> Tahben:  It is a lie!
17:36 < BrandonW> Oh my god, that is the product of those two numbers...
17:36 <+Michael_V> it is
17:36 < BrandonW> Now to make sure that's the 0004 key...
17:36 <+Michael_V> I just checked on cabamap
17:36 <+Michael_V> I knew I should have continued visiting unitedti.org
17:37 < BrandonW> You go where Benjamin Moody goes.
17:37 < Randomist> Are the keys different for every series of calculator?
17:37 <+Michael_V> I used to have the key saved somewhere
17:37 < BrandonW> IT IS!!!!!
17:37 < Randomist> Or are they, like, the z80s have one key and the 68ks have another.
17:37 < BrandonW> WE BROKE THE 0004 KEY!
17:37 < BrandonW> I'm going to try signing OS2 with this.
17:37 < BrandonW> HUGE
17:37 <+Michael_V> oh my
17:37 <+Michael_V> I never tried because it was too much CPU time
17:37 <+Michael_V> years
17:38 <+Michael_V> and years
17:38 <+Michael_V> I wonder if it was luck
17:38 <+Michael_V> in the sense that in factored towards the beginning
17:38 < BrandonW> I'm too excited to even contact him.
17:38 < _Digital> but you're contacting us
17:38 < Randomist> ^
17:38 < BrandonW> Because that's quick.
17:38 < BrandonW> He publicly released this key.
17:38 < BrandonW> And said nothing.
17:38 < BrandonW> Not even a hint to anyone.
17:39 <+Michael_V> that TI would probably come after
17:39 < BrandonW> He's had this for some time, not a doubt in my mind.
17:39 < BrandonW> Remember, he updated RabbitSign a couple of weeks ago to sign OSes.
17:39 < BrandonW> Before anyone had wind of Free83P.
17:39 < BrandonW> How would he know how to do that?
17:39 < BrandonW> This is big.
17:39 <+Michael_V> I wonder how he cracked it
17:39 <+Michael_V> I remember considering it and estimating the CPU time as some ridiculous number of years
17:39 < Randomist> Maybe he heard my idea about writing a Windows worm... :P
17:41 < BrandonW> This is so huge...
17:41 < BrandonW> I'm not even sure where to start.
17:41 <+Michael_V> sign an OS
17:41 < BrandonW> Calm...
17:41 <+Michael_V> just change one byte and sign
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17:41 < BrandonW> My own signing tools use d and n.
17:41 < BrandonW> I'm not sure how to get d from p and q like that.
17:41 < Randomist> Can I put the good news in the topic?
17:42 < BrandonW> And I don't think anyone's had luck yet using RabbitSign.
17:43 < BrandonW> So d is e^-1 mod (p-1)(q-1)?
17:43 < BrandonW> He gave us p and q, and we know e is 17.
17:44 < BrandonW> SOMEBODY HELP ME
17:44 < BrandonW> Someone who knows how to use software that deals with big numbers.
17:44 <+Michael_V> hold on
17:44 <+Michael_V> I have to refresh my mind on RSA
17:45 <+Michael_V> it seems d is d*e mod m = 1
17:45 <+Michael_V> so d = (1+ nm)/e
17:46 <+Michael_V> and m=(p-1)(q-1)
17:46 <+Michael_V> so yes
17:48 <+Michael_V> d should be ((p-1)(q-1)+1)/17
17:48 <+Michael_V> err
17:49 <+Michael_V> d=(1 + (pq)(p-q)(q-1))/17
17:49 <+Michael_V> try that
17:49 <+Michael_V> *p-1
17:49 <+Michael_V> so d=(1+(p-1)(q-1)(p)(q))/17
17:50  * Michael_V thinks he picked a really bad time to retire
17:50 < BrandonW> Yes, you did.
17:50 < BrandonW> The 0004 key, Michael...
17:50 < BrandonW> This is gigantic.
17:50 <+Michael_V> well but remember I'm not really retired
17:50 <+Michael_V> I'll still work on things
17:50 <+Michael_V> I'm going to the active adult calculator community
17:50 <+Michael_V> where you play shuffleboard and bingo for the 83+
17:50 <+Michael_V> I presume you are working on trying to sign right now
17:50 < BrandonW> Yes.
17:50 < BrandonW> I'm so not sleeping.
17:51 <+Michael_V> is d computing okay?
17:51 < Randomist> !t Welcome to the #TCPA | STROIDS IS BACK ON TRACK!!!!ONE HUNDRED ELVEN!1! | Calcs are top priority. | The 0004 key has been cracked!
17:51 -!- efneTI86 changed the topic of #tcpa to: Welcome to the #TCPA | STROIDS IS BACK ON TRACK!!!!ONE HUNDRED ELVEN!1! | Calcs are top priority. | The 0004 key has been cracked!
17:51 <+Michael_V> it shouldn't take that long to verify
17:51 < BrandonW> I'm still getting to the point where I can do that.
17:51 < BrandonW> By all means, do it yourself if I'm not going fast enough.
17:51 <+Michael_V> no, you're set up better than I am right now
17:51 <+Michael_V> I'd have to find the signing tools
17:52 < Randomist> Get Barrett to help.  He has all the machines with the VPSes.
17:52 < BrandonW> The hard work is done.
17:52 < BrandonW> We don't need computing power.
17:52 <+Michael_V> well actually
17:52 < BrandonW> I just need a minute to think.
17:52 < BrandonW> A minute of calmness.
17:52 <+Michael_V> you can just edit the 0104.key and sign with the TI tools?
17:52 <+Michael_V> (or your favorite signing program)
17:52 < BrandonW> No, you can't.
17:52 < Randomist> BrandonW:  Some ambient music and some deep breaths.
17:52 < BrandonW> It's not that easy.
17:52 <+Michael_V> I never tried OS signing
17:53 < BrandonW> We had to write our own tools, and we don't know what convention RabbitSign is using yet (no documentation for that feature).
17:53 <+Michael_V> sign an app I mean
17:53 < BrandonW> I'm modifying my own tools right now.
17:53 <+Michael_V> not an OS
17:53 <+Michael_V> I don't remember exactlu but I mean sign an app and see if it loads using the 0004
17:53 <+Michael_V> *exactly
17:53 < BrandonW> The OS will call SetupAppPubKey and look in the certificate for the override.
17:54 < BrandonW> It won't find one.
17:54 <+Michael_V> ah
17:54 < BrandonW> I'd have to modify Free83P.
17:54 < BrandonW> Either way I'm modifying something.
17:55 < _Digital> 57/43 is the ideal tin/lead ratio for solder, correct?
17:55 <+Michael_V> how can you solder at a time like this?
17:55 <+Michael_V> that sounds vaguely familiar
17:55 <+Michael_V> I'm actually going to go to bed
17:55 <+Michael_V> I won't be able to enjoy this if I'm exhausted
17:58  * Michael_V wonders if perhaps he forgot to account for advances in computing power between 2000 and 2009
17:59 < _Digital> ah, its 63/
17:59 < BrandonW> If this validates, are we going to post news on this?
17:59 < _Digital> 37
17:59 <+Michael_V> I think I would have to confer with Magnus or someone
17:59 <+Michael_V> about blatant key cracking
18:00 <+Michael_V> I'm also not supposedly the news editor anymore :P
18:00 <+Michael_V> but I would certainly post
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18:03 < BrandonW> I have no idea if I signed it correctly, but I'm sending to the 84+SE now.
18:04 <+Michael_V> so he somehow factored a 512-bit number
18:04 <+Michael_V> hmm
18:04 <+Michael_V> I was sure this was well beyond our means
18:04 < BrandonW> I'm sure it is.
18:04 < BrandonW> He got access to a supercomputer or something.
18:05 <+Michael_V> "Six years ago we took only 7 months elapsed and 300-ish machines to factor a 512-bit key. "We" being CWI, Microsoft Research and a number of others, including at least one other(Jeff Gilchrist) who contributes to this forum.
18:05 <+Michael_V> If you use a value of 18 months for the exponent in Moore's law and assume no algorithmic improvements (a false assumption), factoring should be 16 (i.e., 2^{6/1.5}) times easier today. You should be able to conclude that factoring a 512-bit number ought to take around 75 machines running for 2 months.
18:05 <+Michael_V> "
18:06 <+Michael_V> there is the chance that it just cracked right away too
18:06 <+Michael_V> after all, it's an average
18:08 < BrandonW> I don't think d is computing correctly.
18:08 <+Michael_V> 512-bit is supposed to be 30000 MIPS-years
18:08 <+Michael_V> to factor
18:08 < BrandonW> I'm doing (1 + (pq)(p-1)(q-1)/17
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18:09 < BrandonW> (1 + (pq)(p-1)(q-1))/17*
18:10 <+Michael_V> well we want d = (17 * d) mod (p-1)(q-1) = 1
18:10 <+Michael_V> definitely
18:11 <+Michael_V> http://www2.krellinst.org/AiS/textbook/unit2/example_projects/starter/math/crypt/RSA.html
18:11 <+Michael_V> try that
18:11 <+Michael_V> and http://www2.krellinst.org/AiS/textbook/unit2/example_projects/starter/math/crypt/get_d.html
18:12 <+Michael_V> I really have to go to sleep
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18:18 < asmand> gaaah!
18:18 < asmand> the exitement :D
18:21 < BrandonW> That's the 0004 key and those are valid factors of it, so this has to work.
18:21 < BrandonW> If I can just confirm it...
18:22 < BrandonW> And of course he didn't include the code for the latest version of RabbitSign.
18:32 < BrandonW> I just don't get it, those factors are prime, multiply to that number, and that IS the 0004 key...
18:32 < BrandonW> So why does the multiplicative inverse of e and n not give a valid d?!
18:32 < BrandonW> Or the totient.
18:43 < BrandonW> Everything I've read says this, d is the modular multiplicative inverse of (p-1)(q-1).
18:43 < BrandonW> e and that, I mean.
18:43 < BrandonW> And that's not working.
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19:01 < BrandonW> This just doesn't follow right, I calculate d and raise a hash to that power mod n, and then take that and raise it to 17 mod n, and I don't get the same thing.
19:01 < BrandonW> And I should.
19:04 < BrandonW> The GCD of 17 and (p-1)(q-1) is 1, so everything about this says it's the right factor.
19:04 < BrandonW> And yet it's not.
19:11 < BrandonW> e * d mod (p-1)(q-1) = 1.
19:11 < BrandonW> So I really have no idea.
19:11 < BrandonW> Everything about this says it should work.
19:14 < BrandonW> Oh, I'm just an idiot.
19:14 < BrandonW> Alright, testing.
19:14 < BrandonW> Holy fuck...
19:14 < BrandonW> It actually worked.
19:14 < BrandonW> He cracked the 0004 key.
19:14 < BrandonW> We can resign the TI-OS.
19:14 < BrandonW> Amazing.
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19:15 < BrandonW> Free83P is now useless.
19:16 < BrandonW> The battey trick is a thing of the past.
19:16 < BrandonW> battery*
19:18 < BrandonW> Absolutely amazing...
19:18 < BrandonW> What's something quick we can do to the TI-OS to prove this works?
19:18 < BrandonW> Like change the About screen text or something.
19:18 < BrandonW> To get this released.
19:20 < BrandonW> !t Welcome to the #TCPA | STROIDS IS BACK ON TRACK!!!!ONE HUNDRED ELVEN!1! | The official TI-OS cryptographic signing key has been confirmed cracked!
19:20 -!- efneTI86 changed the topic of #tcpa to: Welcome to the #TCPA | STROIDS IS BACK ON TRACK!!!!ONE HUNDRED ELVEN!1! | The official TI-OS cryptographic signing key has been confirmed cracked!
19:20 < millinao> what does this entail?
19:20 < BrandonW> It means we can make perfectly valid modifications to the TI-OS.
19:20 < BrandonW> None of this battery trick or certificate nonsense.
19:21 < BrandonW> We can modify the TI-OS or make our own OSes.
19:21 < BrandonW> No catch.
19:21 < BrandonW> It sends just like the real TI-OS.
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19:23 < BrandonW> This is so big...
19:23 < BrandonW> This is the biggest thing to happen in the community in at least 8 years.
19:26 < _Digital> why do the z80 calcs get more attention than the 68k's?
19:26 < BrandonW> Because they're used in high school where young impressionable minds can pound away on them, especially since they can't use phones, laptops, etc. in class. Unlike college, where an 89 is more likely to be required.
19:26 < BrandonW> I'm all for advancing the 68k community.
19:26 < BrandonW> At the absolute least, we need a usb8x port.
19:27 < _Digital> we do
19:28 < BrandonW> I'm at your disposal, someone who knows 68k just needs to step up and do it.
19:28 < BrandonW> The hardware's very similar, I have notes that can help.
19:28 < BrandonW> And just stuff in my head.
19:28 < BrandonW> And of course the public ones on WikiTI.
19:29 < _Digital> if only I delt with being a developer or cracker
19:30 < _Digital> on teh calculator end I'm just an end user
19:30 < _Digital> and a tester
19:30 < _Digital> anyhow
19:30 < _Digital> I need to go have some food
19:30 < BrandonW> I absolutely must sleep now, but someone please stress the importance of this to everyone you see.
19:30 < BrandonW> This needs to go to ticalc.org.
19:30 < _Digital> if the name of a meal is dictated by it's time relative to sleep, then I'm about to have breakfast
19:31 < BrandonW> Oh, and by the way, d is 4D0534BA8BB2BFA0740BFB6562E843C7EC7A58AE351CE11D43438CA239DD99276CD125FEBAEE5D2696579FA3A3958FF4FC54C685EAA91723BC8888F292947BA1
19:31 < BrandonW> MD5 hash your OS and raise it to the d'th power mod the public key.
19:31 < _Digital> 128 characters wide
19:31 < BrandonW> And it'll validate.
19:32 < _Digital> ironically that is the default width of my terminal
19:32 < BrandonW> For reference, the public key is 82EF4009ED7CAC2A5EE12B5F8E8AD9A0AB9CC9F4F3E44B7E8BF2D57A2F2BEACE83424E1CFF0D2A5A7E2E53CB926D61F347DFAA4B35B205B5881CEB40B328E58F
19:33 < BrandonW> Hex (obviously), Big Endian.
19:33 < BrandonW> Now it's in public logs and a calculator forum.
19:33 < BrandonW> It's in the wild.
19:33 < _Digital> and in my logs too, which I need to make public...
19:34 < BrandonW> With the exception of the 0102 key on the 73 which no one cares about, and the 000A key which no one needs, we have now done everything we set out to accomplish.
19:34 < BrandonW> Oh, well, yeah, I guess that's true, we don't have the 0002 key.
19:35 < BrandonW> So this won't let us put OSes on a 73.
19:35 < BrandonW> But again, who cares.
19:35 < BrandonW> And they have the batter trick which always works.
19:35 < BrandonW> battery*
19:36 < BrandonW> 84+/SE OSes are signed with the 000A key, but their boot code also holds the 0004 key, so no worries.
19:36 < BrandonW> At least I'm pretty sure that'll work okay.
19:45 < BrandonW> Yeah, it'll work.
19:56 < BrandonW> http://brandonw.net/ http://calcg.org/
19:56 < BrandonW> May Google cache it and forever piss off TI.
19:57 < Jayhawker> If you really want to forever piss off TI, web.archive.org needs to pick up on it. :-)
19:59 <@_Auron_> :P
19:59 < BrandonW> OS2 from now on will be signed with 0004.
20:00 < BrandonW> We need to write some tools to dump the ROM from a heavily-OS-patched calculator and recreate it as a valid 8XU.
20:00 < BrandonW> Now we can have embedded modifications to the TI-OS.
20:01 < BrandonW> Just send someone the 8XU and they're good to go.
20:01 < BrandonW> Patches to remove Push-to-Test, everything.
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20:02 < BrandonW> Hell, we can do our OWN TI-OS updates.
20:02 < BrandonW> Screw them and their 2.43.
20:02 < BrandonW> They release an update, one of us patches out all the shit, and re-uploads it.
20:03 < BrandonW> It's starting to feel like the PSP community.
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20:14 < BrandonW> If Michael comes back, tell him I've confirmed it works and I posted all the variables.
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20:14 <@efneTI92> [patrick_] The TI-85 shall reign supreme, always and forever
20:14 < BrandonW> patrick_!
20:14 < BrandonW> You are just in time.
20:14 < BrandonW> The 83+ OS RSA public key was cracked.
20:14 < BrandonW> We don't know who or how yet.
20:14 < BrandonW> But I confirmed it works.
20:15 < BrandonW> We can sign our own OSes or even resign the TI-OS.
20:15 < patrick_> hmm
20:15 < patrick_> did someone steal the key from TI's server by guessing that the password was "83+"
20:16 < BrandonW> We'll have to ask Benjamin Moody when he comes out of hiding.
20:16 < BrandonW> He very cryptically posted it on the United-TI forum, of all places.
20:16 < BrandonW> Perhaps it's a conspiracy to get that site taken down, by TI.
20:17 < BrandonW> I plastered it all over public logs and my own site.
20:17 < BrandonW> To make sure it stays out there.
20:17 < patrick_> I doubt that's really how they got it anywawy, someone would have tried that password long ago
20:18 < BrandonW> I'm almost tempted to memorize either p or q.
20:18 < BrandonW> Burn it in my head.
20:18 < BrandonW> TI will never get me.
20:18 < BrandonW> It's unstoppable.
20:21 < patrick_> well, it certainly is hard to unpublish information that is on the internet
20:23 < BrandonW> I'm going to make an attempt to sleep.
20:23 < BrandonW> I doubt it'll work, but we'll see.
20:23 < BrandonW> Spread the word.
20:24 < DSP_Lord> ...
20:24  * DSP_Lord just scrolled up
20:24 < DSP_Lord> holy. what. the. fuck.
20:24 < DSP_Lord> also hi patrick_
20:25 < BrandonW> Amazing, isn't it?
20:25 < DSP_Lord> well, to be honest...
20:25 < BrandonW> And less than a week after Free83P.
20:25 < DSP_Lord> the only part i understand is "we can write our own OSes now"
20:26 < DSP_Lord> the rest of that soars over my head.
20:26 < BrandonW> And modify the TI-OS.
20:26 < DSP_Lord> well yeah, that too.
20:26 <@_Auron_> it was bound to happen eventually
20:26 < DSP_Lord> which i'm assuming is the main point anyway.
20:26 < BrandonW> However this was done, we need to do it more.
20:26 < BrandonW> There's still the 0002 and 0102 73 keys.
20:27 < BrandonW> And the 010A and 000A keys.
20:27 < DSP_Lord> have fun.
20:27 < DSP_Lord> i don't know shit about those things.
20:27 <@_Auron_> I wish I could just snap my fingers and have Stroids be finished
20:27 <@_Auron_> I'm sleepy.
20:27 < BrandonW> If this was done in a semi-practical way, we need to learn about it.
20:27 < BrandonW> I hope Ben publishes something on it.
20:27 < BrandonW> And I hope he did it and didn't get access to a supercomputer or something.
20:27 < BrandonW> Because if he did it, that means we can do it.
20:27 < DSP_Lord> heh
20:28 < BrandonW> This means 73 Flash applications...
20:28 < BrandonW> It opens things up.
20:28 < DSP_Lord> BrandonW, somehow i am imagining you running naked down a street screaming "eureka"
20:28 < DSP_Lord> which is kinda scary.
20:28 < BrandonW> I would never do that naked.
20:28 < BrandonW> But I am contemplating going outside now, yes.
20:28 < DSP_Lord> heh
20:28 < BrandonW> I've been pacing in the apartment.
20:29 < DSP_Lord> burn a hole in the floor yet?
20:29 < BrandonW> Not yet.
20:29 < DSP_Lord> :P
20:29 < BrandonW> I might go etch the key on a tree or something.
20:29 < DSP_Lord> XD
20:29 <@_Auron_> rofl
20:30 < DSP_Lord> put it in a lockbox or something.
20:30 < BrandonW> In terms of importance, the very next key to crack is 0102.
20:30 < BrandonW> That would enable 73 Flash applications.
20:30  * DSP_Lord now thinks of Old Biff saying "get yourself a safe"
20:30 < BrandonW> No, it's "No, you don't have a safe. Get a safe! And keep it locked up. And until then, keep it on you, like this."
20:30 < BrandonW> I've seen the Back to the Future trilogy WAY too many times.
20:30 <@_Auron_> BrandonW: ask the source for the source of the source of the source of where the key came from
20:30 < patrick_> well, I'm not sure the supercomputer alternative is a bad one
20:30 < BrandonW> I can quote the whole thing here and now.
20:31 <@_Auron_> until you find the person who did it
20:31 <@_Auron_> and then combine powers to crack more keys
20:31 < DSP_Lord> BrandonW: yeah, well you got my point.
20:31 < patrick_> there are only so many other ways I can think of that it might have been done
20:31 < BrandonW> There have been advances in cracking 512-bit RSA.
20:31 < BrandonW> They say it can be done in less than a year.
20:31 < BrandonW> He might've had the resources and certainly the time.
20:32 < patrick_> less than a year using what?
20:32 < BrandonW> I can't remember what Michael said earlier, I think a small cluster.
20:32 < BrandonW> And it also could've been blind luck.
20:33 < BrandonW> Or advances via some other attack.
20:33 < BrandonW> We've been screwing with keys a lot lately.
20:33 < BrandonW> Maybe he even used the 05 key, who knows.
20:33 < BrandonW> There's no way to know.
20:38 < patrick_> even so it would be a pretty major coup for the TI community if he did
20:38 < patrick_> as this would be among the first RSA cracks to practical use
20:49 < nicolas> morning :)
20:49 < nicolas> always nice to log on to good news like this
20:50 < nicolas> although I guess this would have been good for me 7 or so years ago, when I still had time to mess around with calculators :)
20:50 < nicolas> infact, I my 83+SE is ... at my brother's, he stole it from me.... and my 89 ..hmm... at home in italy
20:55 < patrick_> brothers who steal calculators, thmmm...
20:56 < nicolas> meh, wasn't really stolen :p
20:58 < nicolas> well, his was... I had a Ti-83+ ... one of the first ones, then I bought an 83+SE when they came out, and so when my brother got to high school, I gave him my normal Ti-83+ ...reluctantly
20:59 < nicolas> end of sophomore or start of junior year (can't remember) they stole his school bag in the train...
20:59 < nicolas> so I "lent" him my 83+ SE indefinitely
20:59 < nicolas> with my translucent orange DS cover!
21:05 <@_Auron_> legasp
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22:23 < al_b> I thought the TI-OS key got cracked _years_ ago
22:24 < al_b> only the people that knew how to do it wanted to stay on TI's good books
22:27 < tr1p1ea> FloppusMaximus, WHAT HAS HE DONE!
22:29 < tr1p1ea> sorry just got back from work, checked uti and now i can see what you've been talking about
22:34 <@_Auron_> tr1p1ea: http://a.imagehost.org/0431/stroids_title.png :)
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22:35 <@efneTI92> [_Auron|G1] We called it Sin.
22:36 < tr1p1ea> looks great DA
22:36 < tr1p1ea> when is the deadline?
22:37 < _Auron|G1> august 31st
22:37 < _Auron|G1> I'm 90% done right now though
22:37 < tr1p1ea> nice
22:38 < _Auron|G1> I already have next game planned
22:38 < tr1p1ea> O_o
22:39 < _Auron|G1> what?
22:47 < _Auron|G1> hmm, I wonder if I can do something clever for the tilemapper by creating a larger-than-screen texture, scrolling uv coords when the camera moves,
22:47 < _Auron|G1> and mapping tiles onto the texture as it needs to be updated
22:48 < _Auron|G1> could end up wickedly fast if I do it right
23:11 < incubus> _Auron_, what is the name of that Font, Metallica? :)
23:12 < _Auron|G1> I made it myself. incubus
23:13 < incubus> heh
23:13 < incubus> looks coo
23:13 < incubus> l
23:13 < _Auron|G1> thanks
23:13 < _Digital> wow, Ext4 is so good it exceeds my devices hardware limitations for write speeds ;)
23:13 < _Auron|G1> I made it with the mindset of being funky and unique
23:14 < _Auron|G1> nifty
23:14 < _Auron|G1> I need something brain-frying to do like play a good game or watch a tv show
23:15 < incubus> smoke pot?
23:16 < _Digital> _Auron|G1: http://atlas.selfip.net/TV/
23:16 < incubus> LOL WTF?
23:16 < _Digital> you didn't know I did this incubus?
23:17 < incubus> reproduce television shows without express written consent?  No
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23:17 <@efneTI92> [leofox] All we do in hell is play DDR!
23:17 < _Digital> :P
23:17 < _Digital> public DVR
23:18 < incubus> wtf is wrong with the sound
23:18 < _Digital> what do you mean?
23:19 < _Digital> I know I have a few shows that somehow came out in mono
23:19 < _Digital> but that is like 3
23:21 < incubus> ah there we go
23:21 < incubus> scrubs? :)
23:21 < _Digital> as for everything being quiet, that is due to broadcasting. I never got around to the extra step or normalizing
23:21 < _Digital> of*
23:22 < _Auron|G1> watching first ep of true blood
23:22 < _Auron|G1> bbl
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23:47 <@efneTI92> [i_c-Y] It's like I'm the last sane person on Earth.
23:47 < _Digital> having '92 as teh greet bot isn't a good idea
23:54 < _Digital> why the hell have I been messing with a port-80 redirect when I don't need to
23:54 < _Digital> wtf I'm stupid
23:55 < _Digital> router forwards port 80 requests to my server with no problem
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