--- Log opened Fri Feb 06 00:00:15 2009 00:05 < Ox40Work> sir_lewk: thats a funny website 00:05 < Ox40Work> 1 hourrrrrrr! 00:06 -!- UltimateY [~NovaYoshi@pool-71-127-94-116.aubnin.fios.verizon.net] has joined #tcpa 00:11 < ports_> hi 00:12 -!- NovaYoshi [~NovaYoshi@pool-71-127-94-116.aubnin.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 00:18 < Ox40Work> lmao "How can 2,000,000 blacks get into Washington, DC in 1 day in sub zero temps when 200,000 couldn't get out of New Orleans in 85 degree temps with four days notice?" 00:18 < ports_> Ox40Work, free kfc 00:18 < ports_> and DC has Church's Chicken too 00:18 * Ox40Work omnomns in ports_'s general direction 00:19 < ports_> hehe 00:19 <+prime_> wow Ox40Work 00:19 < ports_> Tara Reid looks a lot like my second wife. 00:20 < Ox40Work> ports_ / prime_: I assume, seeing as \__ is laptop, _ must be... tablet PC? 00:22 -!- Ox40Work was kicked from #tcpa by Nikky [Ox40Work] 00:22 -!- Ox40Work [~KevinK@68-117-29-62.static.fdul.wi.charter.com] has joined #tcpa 00:22 < Ox40Work> Nikky: and.... You are douching at the moment because... ? 00:22 -!- Ox40Work was kicked from #tcpa by Nikky [Kicking for racist jokes is not "douching"] 00:22 -!- Ox40Work [~KevinK@68-117-29-62.static.fdul.wi.charter.com] has joined #tcpa 00:23 < Ox40Work> It wasnt racist at all... 00:23 <+prime_> yea, find one racist thing in there 00:23 < Ox40Work> lol 00:23 <+prime_> seriously 00:23 < Ox40Work> !qfind teeth pic 00:23 <@efneTI86> 1137:aardvarq: Spengo: I dont 'fap' to 'teeth pictures' either... i was just observing that her teeth make me want to 00:23 <@efneTI86> (All of 1 match) 00:23 < Ox40Work> prime_: yeah, I agree tho. 00:24 <+prime_> just because it has the word "black" in it it must be rasict. i forgot, it's "their word" now 00:25 <+prime_> even if it was, even if it was, people over react to racism 00:25 <+prime_> its perfectly fine to be racist, it's only acting on those feelings that is wrong 00:26 <+prime_> to me there is nothing different than liking one brand of fabric softener more than another than it is to like one race more than another 00:27 < Dam\__> "I like Downy, because it comes in a pretty blue box, but I don't like Bounce, because green and orange don't go together." 00:27 -!- Tyler2 [~nexon@residence-204-172.henday.ualberta.ca] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 00:27 < Ox40Work> haha Dam\__ 00:27 -!- obnauticu [~lol@c-24-22-20-142.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 00:28 < Ox40Work> Seriously tho... "Our first black president!!!" == PERFECTLY fine 00:28 <+prime_> "i like bounce because it smells better and does a better job at softening my clothes" 00:28 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v obnauticu] by efneTI89, efneTI80 00:28 < Ox40Work> lmao prime_ 00:28 < Ox40Work> "A black dude came into the store today" == RACIST 00:28 <+prime_> lol 00:28 <+prime_> i mean, yeah, racist, KICK HIM 00:29 <@E-J> Dam\__: how to you feel? which words are racism according to you? 00:29 < Dam\__> I don't really give a fuck what one says. 00:30 -!- Merthsoft [~Shaun@140.141.26.108] has joined #tcpa 00:32 < Merthsoft> Nikky! 00:32 <+prime_> Dam\__: that's fine but you must have some feeling to the way it would make you feel if you did 00:32 <@Nikky> Hi Merthsoft 00:32 <@Nikky> OH yeah, don't kick Merthsoft, Ox40Work 00:34 <@E-J> prime_: what would you do if someone says to someone else "a white guy came into the store today" meaning you 00:35 <+prime_> E-J: i wouldnt know what to make of it, it seems a bit out of context. i'm not exactly sure what you are asking 00:36 <+prime_> do you mean would someone calling me "white" be rasist? 00:36 -!- TD-Linux [~wheeeeeee@65.165.173.1] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 00:36 < Dam\__> Nope. I just don't care, unless whoever it is starts getting physical, then I'm liable to give his head an informal introduction to the ground. 00:36 <@E-J> if he means it like all white people are criminals 00:37 <+prime_> if it means it like that (which by the way i did not get that meaning at all from your first question) then it would be racist 00:37 <+prime_> but it took a whole explanation in order to get that meaning 00:38 < Ox40Work> Hey, someone coudl say "a damn white tight-ass came into the store today and started lecturing me about how I should get a better job".... if they were talking about me: I DONT CARE 00:38 < Ox40Work> Seriously. 00:38 < Ox40Work> I don't give a SINGLE CRAP. 00:38 <@E-J> someone mocked my friend (he is mulatto) in heavy bar, he just said that he is not negro, he is mulatto and walked away 00:39 < Ox40Work> "All white people are snobby" ... not offensive to me in the least. 00:39 < UltimateY> Same 00:39 -!- UltimateY is now known as NovaYoshi 00:39 < NovaYoshi> What the heck caused that nick change? 00:39 <+prime_> honky, jew, nigger, spic, wap etc have absolutely no meaning other than the meaning people give it when they considering the way it was used before in history 00:39 < Ox40Work> Really... I dont get these feelings of 'racism' 00:39 < NovaYoshi> Meh... I've idled here long enough 00:39 -!- NovaYoshi [~NovaYoshi@pool-71-127-94-116.aubnin.fios.verizon.net] has left #tcpa [Leaving] 00:39 < Ox40Work> Someone calls me a cracker... I dont CARE... Why should I? 00:40 < Ox40Work> Its like someone calling me a poop-head. OUCH that hurts. 00:40 <+prime_> and the way it was used in history was probably racist, but the word, the single word by itself, isnt 00:40 <@E-J> but also he is against all those nigger words, but finnish society isn't so used to multicultural people 00:41 <@E-J> i saw first non-white live in kindergarden when i was 5 or so 00:41 <@E-J> 2 vietnamese boys got there 00:41 <+prime_> trying to get rid of racism is as useless as trying to get rid of feelings in general 00:43 <+prime_> i cant change the way i feel, and no matter how much society tells me i shouldnt feel that way, i cant change it 00:43 < Merthsoft> but we can fault you for it 00:43 < Merthsoft> just like rapists and serial killers 00:46 <+prime_> you are welcome to think i am a pig for being racist 00:47 < Merthsoft> and youa re welcome to be racist 00:48 <+prime_> but, trying to end ending racism, or thinking you are doing something when you kick someone from an irc channel is helping to stop racist, isnt helping your cause 00:48 <+prime_> i need to fix a few tenses, but you get it 00:48 < Merthsoft> it's helping my cause of kicking the racist out of the irc channel 00:50 -!- Ox40Work [~KevinK@68-117-29-62.static.fdul.wi.charter.com] has quit [User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby] 00:51 -!- Ham\__ [~Netham45@c-71-229-253-50.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 00:51 <@efneTI92> [Ham\__] Narf! 00:51 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Ham\__] by Remius 00:53 <+prime_> but i am done with this subject for tonight 00:54 <+prime_> however i wanted to i could expand my ideas on this subject into a book 00:57 -!- Tyler2 [~nexon@residence-204-172.henday.ualberta.ca] has joined #tcpa 00:57 <@efneTI92> [Tyler2] I no longer speak fluent dialup. 00:57 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Tyler2] by efneTI81, etaonrish, SnowCrash 01:00 < Dam\__> Ha. (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/02/04/colorado_batleth_sword_robbery/) 01:18 -!- Ox40 [~Ox40@adsl-75-44-41-164.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #tcpa 01:18 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Ox40] by SnowCrash 01:18 <+Ox40> Hey all 01:20 <@Andy_J> Hi Ox40. 01:22 <+Ox40> Hey Andy_J, the American. 01:24 < ports_> score 01:24 < ports_> a player on my island was nice.. 01:24 < ports_> he has a really high level. he lent me some building materials 01:24 < ports_> so i could build my town 01:27 < Dam\__> Is it possible to automatically have some windows be docked in Vista? 01:27 < ports_> docked where 01:27 < ports_> if you want them docked in your butt.. then yes 01:27 < ports_> butt docking is possible 01:27 <+Ox40> ports_: in the doc menu, of course 01:27 < Dam\__> On the side, like a taskbar. 01:27 < Dam\__> Or a panel. 01:27 < Dam\__> Or whatever those are called on Windows. 01:28 < Merthsoft> like a quick launch? 01:28 < Dam\__> Yeah, like those. 01:28 < Merthsoft> yeah 01:28 < Merthsoft> it's called the quicklaunch toolbar 01:28 < Merthsoft> right click on taskbar -> toolbars -> quick launch 01:32 -!- TheStorm [~TheStorm@CPE-24-167-219-81.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa 01:32 <@efneTI92> [TheStorm] Yes rivereye, it is time to go fishing. 01:35 < Dam\__> Merthsoft: No, more like dock, like how the Windows sidebar does, when you say to put it above windows. 01:35 < Dam\__> I want to do that with regular windows. 01:36 < Merthsoft> i don't understand... 01:37 < Dam\__> It will go and make space on whatever side of the screen its docked on, and push the desktop icons over, and windows won't cover it when they are maximized. 01:37 < ports_> haha 01:37 < ports_> jjkl kl;k 01:37 < ports_> kllrkl 01:37 < ports_> oops cat 01:39 < TheStorm> Dam\__ I think the closest thing to that you can get is autohideing the taskbar 01:39 < TheStorm> But IDK for sure 01:42 < ports_> please 01:42 < ports_> someone play the game with me 01:46 -!- millinao [~millinao@c-71-193-154-229.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 01:48 -!- TheStorm [~TheStorm@CPE-24-167-219-81.wi.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:49 -!- TheStorm [~TheStorm@CPE-24-167-219-81.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa 01:56 -!- tsrk [~tsrk@c-67-171-134-156.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:56 < Spengo> Ox40 faps to amputee porn 01:56 <+Ox40> Spengo: funny you mention it 01:56 <+Ox40> *closes amputee porn* 01:56 < Spengo> I am psychic 01:56 <@Nikky> You people are disgusting. 01:57 < Spengo> no you are disgusting 01:57 <@Nikky> lul fail http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/05/michael-phelps-sponsor-ke_n_164481.html 01:57 < millinao> oh shit i better close my eyepatch amuptee midget porn 01:57 < Spengo> what is your fetish Nikky 01:57 < Spengo> I don't trust anyone without a weird fetish 01:58 < Spengo> I bet you're into the S&M stuff, right? You seem kinda like the type 01:58 < millinao> rofl 01:58 <+prime_> haha 01:59 < millinao> he probably just faps to topless women talking about politics 01:59 < Spengo> hey as long as it's not furry I'm cool with it 01:59 <+Ox40> lol 01:59 <+Ox40> really tho, everyone has SOME fetish 01:59 < Spengo> yeah 01:59 < Spengo> unless you're a weirdo 02:00 < ports_> wait 02:00 < ports_> where are the naked girls talking politics 02:01 < ports_> can i see? 02:01 < ports_> are they hot? 02:01 < ports_> if theyre fat i dont want to 02:01 < Spengo> lol 02:01 < ports_> no fatties... boo to them oo! 02:01 < ports_> moo 02:01 <+prime_> nah, he's missing the part of his brain where fetishes reside, which happens be be where compassion is stored 02:01 < Spengo> hillary is Nikky's type ports_ 02:01 < Spengo> I don't think you want it 02:01 < ports_> hillary where 02:01 < Spengo> clinton 02:01 < ports_> hillary clinton? 02:01 < ports_> nah 02:01 < ports_> shes a bit old 02:01 < ports_> leathery vagina isnt fun 02:01 < millinao> sarah palin 02:01 <+Ox40> lmao 02:01 < ports_> it chaffes the dick 02:01 < millinao> ports would know 02:01 < Spengo> ports_ has experience I see 02:02 < ports_> i was a horrible person in college. 02:02 < ports_> now im just a horrible person. 02:02 < millinao> lolwut 02:02 < Spengo> lol 02:02 < millinao> are you a grandmotherfucker 02:02 < ports_> they dont have to be OLD 02:03 -!- PhillipA [~phillip@host-154-169-220-24.midco.net] has joined #tcpa 02:03 <@efneTI92> [PhillipA] Success is a journey, not a destination. So stop running. 02:03 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v PhillipA] by efneTI86 02:05 < ports_> now 02:05 < ports_> some girls have told me that lube is good for sex.. 02:05 < Spengo> now? 02:05 < ports_> in my opinion.. if things arent naturally lubricated, she isnt into it, or youve been doing it too long 02:05 < Spengo> tell them they are supposed to have built in lube, that is your job 02:07 <+Ox40> ports_: my last one didnt need lube... at all. ever. EVER :P 02:07 <+prime_> ever? 02:07 <+Ox40> ever. 02:07 <+prime_> ever? 02:07 < millinao> http://www.pipl.com/username/ 02:07 <+Ox40> never ever. 02:08 <+prime_> ah ok 02:08 <+Ox40> lol 02:08 <+Ox40> millinao: didnt work for me 02:09 < ports_> Ox40, did she get diarrhea a lot? 02:09 < millinao> you also have numbers in your username 02:10 <+Ox40> ports_: O.o no 02:10 <+Ox40> lol 02:10 <+Ox40> just... one of thos epeople 02:10 < ports_> Ox40, then i disagree.. you DID need lube sometimes. 02:10 <+Ox40> lmao 02:10 <+Ox40> never went there 02:11 < millinao> real men dont use lube 02:11 <+Ox40> millinao: exactly 02:11 < ports_> millinao, lube is for women. 02:12 < millinao> so 02:15 <@Nikky> wtf 02:16 < ports_> what Nikky 02:20 -!- tsrk [~tsrk@c-67-171-134-156.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 02:21 -!- Ham\__ [~Netham45@c-71-229-253-50.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 372 seconds] 02:23 <+prime_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cD1IOCjxx9s 02:23 <+prime_> email ti!!! 02:25 -!- Merth_ [~Shaun@140.141.26.108] has joined #tcpa 02:25 -!- Merthsoft [~Shaun@140.141.26.108] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:26 -!- Speler [Mibbit@149.125.166.55] has joined #tcpa 02:27 * Dam\__ wonders who is sliding condoms under people's doors. 02:27 < Speler> It's falacio girl! 02:27 < Tari> lrn2spell 02:27 < Speler> Greatest super hero ever 02:28 < millinao> youtube is always really slow for me 02:28 < Speler> spelling is overrated 02:29 <+prime_> yez it iz 02:30 < millinao> lol that was terrible 02:31 < Speler> Dam\__: it could also be Dick In Your Mouth Boy 02:31 < Speler> falacio girls sidekick 02:31 < Dam\__> "no tis si mor trebble spelin" 02:32 < Speler> Whatev 02:32 -!- Goplat [~goplat@76-191-156-24.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has joined #tcpa 02:33 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Goplat] by efneTI92 02:35 -!- ticalcnoa [~chatzilla@ip70-189-96-58.ok.ok.cox.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:38 -!- i_c-Y [Icy@cpe-69-204-242-163.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa 02:50 -!- Perryman [~d@97-114-139-241.sxfl.qwest.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 02:51 -!- ticalcnoa [~chatzilla@ip70-189-96-58.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #tcpa 02:52 -!- ticalcnoa [~chatzilla@ip70-189-96-58.ok.ok.cox.net] has quit [Client Quit] 02:57 -!- Perryman [~d@97-114-131-119.sxfl.qwest.net] has joined #tcpa 02:59 -!- Perryman` [~d@97-114-131-119.sxfl.qwest.net] has joined #tcpa 02:59 -!- Perryman [~d@97-114-131-119.sxfl.qwest.net] has quit [Client Quit] 02:59 -!- Perryman` is now known as Perryman 03:05 -!- Dam\__ [~Winterven@216.117.121.41] has quit [Quit: "No reason remains for us to stay." (0AD)] 03:06 < millinao> fuuck my friend just asked if i wanted to go see paul blart mall cop 03:06 < millinao> somebody shoot me 03:06 < Speler> Best first date ever: Mall cop and white castle 03:06 < Speler> Do it 03:07 < millinao> blart looks absolutely fucking terrible 03:09 <+Ox40> lol 03:09 <+Ox40> Damn you 4chan red blocks! 03:11 * _Digital loves seeing a quad core work at greatest efficiency 03:21 -!- phrenia [~spencer@69.198.100.226] has joined #tcpa 03:21 -!- seidior [swohlers@69.198.100.226] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:21 * Ox40 makes oxchan.org 03:22 <+Netham46> god 03:22 <+Netham46> that's a crowd I wouldn't want to meet irl. 03:23 <+Ox40> lol 03:23 < Speler> If you ever met me you'd be blown away in a wave of awesomeness 03:25 < millinao> no thats me 03:25 -!- Dam\__ [~Winterven@216.117.122.195] has joined #tcpa 03:25 < Speler> Sure 03:25 < millinao> it's tru 03:26 < Speler> I'm actually not that awesome 03:26 < Speler> Just a little awesome 03:27 <+Ox40> :P 03:27 <+Ox40> I bet you are pretty awesome 03:27 <+Ox40> as such, I give you infinite internets 03:28 < Speler> Hellz yes! 03:28 < Speler> Now... what to do with my internets 03:28 <+Ox40> haha :) 03:28 <+Ox40> CHOCOLATE RAIN! I ran my bike into a wall againnnnn 03:29 < Speler> I wish I had a bike 03:29 <+Ox40> HEY... how would you guys recommend handling Collections in an MVC? 03:33 < ports_> whats mvc 03:33 < Speler> That's what I was thinkin 03:34 -!- JoelS [~JSeligste@204.15.21.168] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:34 -!- PhillipA [~phillip@host-154-169-220-24.midco.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:36 * _Digital pokes i_c-Y 03:37 < Speler> Harumphatumph 03:37 < i_c-Y> busy cant get distracted 03:37 -!- i_c-Y [Icy@cpe-69-204-242-163.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Insert generic /quit message here. ] 03:37 < Speler> Lulz 03:37 < _Digital> heh 03:40 < Speler> So yeah, I got a poem entitled Cuntasaurus Rex published in the school paper 03:40 < Speler> BADASS 03:41 < millinao> post 03:41 < millinao> it 03:41 < millinao> now 03:41 < Speler> The cuntasaurus rex drinks deeply from the oasis 03:41 < Speler> He tris, but he cannot stand 03:41 < Speler> He is weary from his arduous travels 03:42 < Speler> One tear falls beside the searing sun 03:42 < Speler> Nobdy likes you, your a cunt 03:42 < Speler> They actually excepted it... lulz 03:44 < millinao> nice 03:46 < Dam\__> They made and *exception* and *accepted* it? Sweet. 03:46 < Dam\__> s:d:: 03:47 < Speler> I'm gonna see if I can get one about a baker who makes cunt-muffins in the next issue 03:47 < millinao> http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/01/090128215130.htm 03:47 < millinao> wtf 03:48 < millinao> single-element compound: no sense 03:49 < Speler> Lol 03:49 < Dam\__> Speler: Maybe one about a hot chick who works at an establishment named The Yard, making cunt milkshakes? Her milkshakes could bring all the boys to The Yard... 03:51 < millinao> agh, i hate how this site says "our internet is fast" but doesn't provide any numbers 03:52 < Speler> Hmm... I could, but I'd have to charge 03:52 < TheStorm> lulz 03:52 <+prime_> what is in a cunt milkshake? 03:53 < Speler> It's like a normal milk shake, but a cunt one 03:54 <+prime_> like it was made it a cunt, or bits of chopped up cunt are in it? 03:54 < Speler> Both are socially exceptable 03:54 < TheStorm> millinao, I love how the scientist in the pic is running a linux distro 03:54 < millinao> why is that great 03:55 < TheStorm> I find it funny I guess 03:55 < millinao> whai 03:55 < TheStorm> IDK 03:56 < TheStorm> I jsut do k 04:00 < TheStorm> well gnight all time to get memtest running 04:01 < Speler> I need to write a personal narrative 04:01 < Speler> Any ideas, I want it to be believable yet completely badass 04:04 < Dam\__> Make TCPA a bad-ass business and say you work here. 04:05 -!- TheStorm [~TheStorm@CPE-24-167-219-81.wi.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:06 < Speler> Eh 04:06 < Speler> I want to be held at gunpoint at some point in the story 04:06 < Speler> And stab someone 04:08 -!- Merth_ [~Shaun@140.141.26.108] has quit [Quit: ☮♥♫] 04:08 -!- Merthsoft [~Shaun@140.141.26.108] has joined #tcpa 04:09 < Speler> Hrm... I'm off to print some stuff out 04:09 < Speler> Later 04:09 -!- Speler [Mibbit@149.125.166.55] has quit [http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 04:18 < millinao> rofl i need to write one too 04:19 < millinao> for school 04:25 <@_Auron_> ayaaaa 04:25 <@_Auron_> made my first sale tonight, off until tuesday 04:26 <+prime_> sold what? crack? 04:26 <+Ox40> _Auron_: pot? 04:26 <@_Auron_> .... 04:26 <+jd19> girl scout cookies? 04:26 <@_Auron_> for fuck's sake does anyone even pay attention 04:26 <+jd19> wiat 04:26 <+jd19> wait too.. 04:26 <+jd19> did you get a new job 04:26 <+jd19> recently 04:27 <+prime_> ah, i just read up. it was refrigerators 04:27 <+jd19> ah, never bought a refrigerator before 04:27 <+prime_> lol, i just made that up 04:27 <@_Auron_> [10:58:09pm] <_Auron_> automobile service cards for local shops; $80 for 5 full service oil changes as well as other auto-care services at no additional cost like check engine light, tire rotations, transmission analysis, and some other stuff 04:28 <@_Auron_> log from a few days ago, I scrolled up 04:28 <+jd19> how much do you make off each sale 04:28 <@_Auron_> $15, but I'm also getting paid hourly 04:28 <+jd19> hmm 04:29 <+jd19> you don't go door to door do you 04:29 <@_Auron_> yes actually I do 04:29 <+prime_> that's some cheap-ass oil change 04:29 <+jd19> i would probably not answer 04:29 <+jd19> because most people that come door to door around here are religion freaks 04:29 < Dam\__> *Knocking.* *Door opens.* "Hello, sir or madame, would you like your oil changed today?" 04:30 < Dam\__> *Door slams shut.* 04:30 <@_Auron_> I've yet to have someone simply slam the door on me 04:30 <+jd19> last time i answered the door for a sales person, they cleaned an oil spot off my driveway 04:30 <@_Auron_> what'd they do, pee on it? 04:30 <@_Auron_> or just show an example 04:30 <@_Auron_> :P 04:30 <+prime_> !qfind running 04:30 <@efneTI86> 233:Nikky_S: phrenia: That depends on whether you believe in evolution. | Michael_V: i do. | phrenia: Then you must not be running Windows. 04:30 <+jd19> well he may have put pee in a bottle 04:30 <@efneTI86> 656:Andy_J: note that the hungarian government was dugg. | <+KevinJB> yeah well digg didn't do that actually, what happened was | <+KevinJB> people wrote tons of scripts to cheat because it 's so incredibly easy to | <+KevinJB> and so there are probably about a thousand machines running a script to vote very other second or so | <+KevinJB> For example, I have voted 43 times. | Just like GraphiTI last year! 04:30 <+jd19> then sprayed it 04:30 <@_Auron_> prime_: yes it really is 04:30 <@efneTI86> 251:Nikky_S: it looks like Dantes needs a new attitude towards girls | This is kind of fun | with him having me on ignore... | I'm a running commentary! 04:30 <+jd19> out of said bottle 04:30 <@efneTI86> (All of 3 matches) 04:31 <+prime_> considering they get $13 per change 04:31 <@_Auron_> though for synthetic higher-end oils the card takes off $30 off the cost of the oil, but otherwise the oil change and oil are included in the package 04:31 <+jd19> how is that $13 04:31 <+Ox40> lmao 04:32 <+prime_> then i dont know if there is a card company, but they would get their cut, then finally the mechanic, who also makes a profit 04:32 <+Ox40> _Auron_: WHAT is your job in 5 words or less? 04:32 <+prime_> (80-15)/5 04:32 <+jd19> where are you getting this -15 04:32 <+prime_> do you sell directly for the lube station? 04:32 <@_Auron_> Ox40: Neighborehood solicitation auto-care sales 04:33 <+Ox40> .... oh. 04:33 <+jd19> lubez 04:33 <@_Auron_> prime_: super saver is a company that helps promote business for local shops by creating a package system that they can work with 04:34 <@_Auron_> we promote a different shop in a different city each week 04:35 -!- bsparks [~NinjaDrag@d60-65-200-180.col.wideopenwest.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 04:35 <+prime_> who's next! 04:36 <@_Auron_> next week is keller, this week was lancaster 04:39 <@_Auron_> we tend to avoid ghetto neighborehoods if we can, too 04:42 <+prime_> racist! 04:42 <@_Auron_> lol 04:43 <+prime_> i'm just going to call everything racist now 04:43 <+prime_> you missed it earler _Auron_ 04:44 <+Ox40> lol 04:44 -!- Perryman [~d@97-114-131-119.sxfl.qwest.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:44 -!- Perryman [~d@97-114-131-119.sxfl.qwest.net] has joined #tcpa 04:47 < millinao> everything is racist 04:48 * _Auron_ is busy watching bleach 04:48 < Merthsoft> ... I can't download GCC4TI because it doesn't think i'm entering a vaild email address... 04:49 < Dam\__> You have to put in an e-mail address to download it? 04:49 < Merthsoft> yeah 04:49 < sir_lewk> ... 04:50 < Dam\__> Merthsoft: Mirrors for the win. (http://lionel.debroux.free.fr/pub/.GCC4TI/gcc4ti.zip) 04:51 < Merthsoft> heh, i just put in a differnent one, but thanks! 04:53 < Merthsoft> oh bioy 04:53 < Merthsoft> i dunno what to do 04:53 -!- Perryman [~d@97-114-131-119.sxfl.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 504 seconds] 04:56 < Merthsoft> man these things are hard to use 04:57 <+Ox40> holy crap PHP is awful 04:57 <+Ox40> for($i="aa"; $i<"zz"; $i++){ echo $i; } 04:58 <+Ox40> What would you expect that to do? 04:58 < Merthsoft> avg found a backdoor trojan in ti-emu... 04:58 <+prime_> ddos calcg.org ? 04:58 <+Ox40> Return: aaabacadaeafagahaiajakalamanaoapaqarasatauavawaxayazbabbbcbdbebfbgbhbibjbkblbmbnbobpbqbrbsbtbubvbwbxbybzcacbcccdcecfcgchcicjckclcmcncocpcqcrcsctcucvcwcxcyczdadbdcdddedfdgdhdidjdkdldmdndodpdqdrdsdtdudvdwdxdydzeaebecedeeefegeheiejekelemeneoepeqereseteuevewexeyezfafbfcfdfefffgfhfifjfkflfmfnfofpfqfrfsftfufvfwfxfyfzgagbgcgdgegfggghgigjgkglgmgngogpgqgrgsgtgugvgwgxgygzhahbhchdhehfhghhhihjhkhlhmhnhohphqhrhshthuhvhwhxhyhziai 04:58 <+Ox40> lmao 04:58 <+Ox40> Freaking PHP ... wtf? 04:59 < Merthsoft> makes sense 04:59 <+prime_> its just increasing the ascii 05:00 <+prime_> it would work for a single letter 05:00 <+prime_> but it must treat the string differently 05:00 <+prime_> so use two for loops 05:00 -!- Perryman [~d@97-114-131-119.sxfl.qwest.net] has joined #tcpa 05:00 < sir_lewk> that kind of makes sense... 05:02 <+prime_> or, i dont really know what you want it to do 05:03 -!- i_c-Y [Icy@cpe-69-204-242-163.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa 05:05 <+Ox40> yeah, it makes sense... 05:05 <+Ox40> but its just kinda funny that it works :P 05:05 <+Ox40> although, "a" to "Z" does NOT work :( 05:14 -!- Perryman [~d@97-114-131-119.sxfl.qwest.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:14 -!- Spengo_ [~Spengo@64.251.246.81] has joined #tcpa 05:15 -!- Spengo [~Spengo@64.251.246.81] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:23 -!- _Digital [~DC@pool-71-165-124-42.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 05:23 * sir_lewk sleeps 05:26 * Ox40 wakes sir_lewk up 05:26 <+Netham46> hmm 05:26 <+Netham46> I never noticed that feature before 05:26 <+Netham46> /dns in xchat 05:27 <+Netham46> [DNS] Looking up mirabel.epfarms.org (efneTI80)... 05:27 <+Netham46> [DNS] Canonical: mirabel.epfarms.org Numerical: 66.111.62.80 05:28 <+Ox40> or just double-click a nickname 05:28 <+Ox40> ... 05:28 <+Netham46> not all networks show you the IP in the whois. 05:29 -!- ports_ [~ports@64.146.49.170] has quit [Ping timeout: 384 seconds] 05:30 -!- _Digital [~DC@pool-71-165-124-42.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has joined #tcpa 05:30 <+Ox40> oh my god.... 05:30 <+Ox40> Netham46:... Never had a problem here 05:30 <+Ox40> But, I DO now have a problem... I got banninated from 4chan. :P 05:32 <+Netham46> I can't help 05:32 <+Netham46> I've been permbanned for like 4 months, I think. 05:32 <+Ox40> really? :P 05:32 <+Ox40> whats your reason? 05:33 <+Netham46> I think it's something like calling a mod a newfag. 05:33 <+Ox40> lol 05:33 <+Ox40> mine is "CP"... Who doesnt like captain planet tho??? 05:34 <+Netham46> ... 05:34 <+Netham46> I do know what CP means. 05:34 <+Ox40> Yeah, and I am totalyl seriousl. 05:34 <+Ox40> *totally serious 05:34 <+Netham46> perv. 05:34 <+Netham46> first you want to fuck your cousin, now you're posting child porn on 4chan. 05:35 < millinao> wait you got banned from 4chan for cp? 05:35 < millinao> wtf? 05:35 <+Ox40> one of those "haha, this abbreviates to CP" threads 05:35 <@_Auron_> oy 05:35 <@_Auron_> captain picard 05:35 < millinao> oh you didn't actually get banned for child porn 05:36 <+Netham46> millinao, yea he did. 05:36 <+Netham46> he's just hiding it now that he realized we don't approve of it. 05:37 <+Ox40> millinao: -_- i might want to do my cousin... but im not that sick. 05:37 <+Ox40> Netham46: why would I EVER think anyone here would 'approve' of CP? 05:37 <+Netham46> Ox40, because krisk comes in here alot? 05:37 <+Ox40> lollll 05:50 <+Ox40> So, for teh lulz: http://ox40.us/inarow.png 05:51 <+Ox40> Screw you RedBox script. 05:51 -!- mtgrss111 [~Administr@c-98-194-46-169.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 05:52 < ryantmer> Gah. 05:52 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v mtgrss111] by Remius 05:52 < ryantmer> Does anybody know where the SSH options are in DD-WRT v24? 05:52 <+mtgrss111> geez, this has got ot be the worst fucking week ever 05:52 < Milyardo> jse trojans? seriously? do nubs only troll 4chan now? 05:52 <+Ox40> mtgrss111: yes, I know. I got 4chanbanned. Try to top that. 05:52 <+Ox40> Milyardo: a ton of people did it as you can see. 05:53 <+Ox40> But I thought that cap was kinda funny 05:53 <+Ox40> shows how many n00bs are on 4chan 05:53 < Milyardo> I remember when people were using Targa format buffer overflows as payloads for malware on 4chan 05:53 < Milyardo> but now "save this and renamed it ro .jse hehehe" 05:53 < Milyardo> wtf 05:53 <+Ox40> yeah... 05:53 <+Ox40> But, 9 in a row is impressive for a n00bscript 05:53 < Milyardo> not really 05:54 <+mtgrss111> my 1tb external drive was fucking destroyed. and i had just finished backing up several hundred gigabytes' worth of data on days ago! a lot of it is irreplaceable. 05:54 <+Ox40> I thought it was :P 05:55 * Milyardo mourns for mtgrss111's midget pr0n 05:55 <+mtgrss111> :P 05:55 <+mtgrss111> i do not own porn 05:56 < Milyardo> of course not, thats why everyone shares it over p2p 05:57 <+prime_> ryantmer; telnet to it 05:58 < Milyardo> I use tomato, Its been awesome so far 05:58 -!- Netham46 [~Netham45@c-71-229-253-50.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:59 -!- Netham45 [~Netham45@c-71-229-253-50.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 05:59 < ryantmer> Milyardo, last time I checked mine isn't supported =/ 05:59 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Netham45] by etaonrish 05:59 <+Netham45> fucking firefox updater caused xchat to crash somehow 05:59 < ryantmer> Although that was a while ago, no idea if it is now 06:00 <+prime_> people still use chat? 06:00 <+prime_> xchat 06:00 < Milyardo> What else in there prime_? 06:00 <@_Auron_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqcn_TPu4qQ 06:00 <+Netham45> prime_, yea 06:00 <+Netham45> it's by far the best client 06:00 < Milyardo> *What else is newer? 06:01 <+prime_> i tried it 06:01 <+prime_> it took me 20 minutes to find their non-standard port format 06:01 < _Digital> I need to move my torrenting to my server... 06:01 <+prime_> it didnt take irc.server.com:port 06:01 < Milyardo> mIRC, older than XChat. irrsi, waaay older than Xchat. ircII, hahah right... 06:02 <+Netham45> prime_, irc.server.com port 06:02 <+prime_> yea, 20 minutes 06:02 <+Netham45> Usage: SERVER [-ssl] [] [], connects to a server, the default port is 6667 for normal connections, and 9999 for ssl connections 06:02 <+prime_> anyhow it seemed lame 06:03 < Milyardo> So what do you use prime_? 06:03 < Milyardo> 01:03 [efnet] CTCP VERSION reply from prime_: fuck you nikky 06:03 < Milyardo> awww thats so sweet 06:04 <+Netham45> lol 06:04 <+prime_> isnt it 06:06 <+Netham45> eww 06:06 <+Netham45> irssi 06:13 -!- ryantmer [~ryantmer@dhcp185-155.theedge.ca] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:19 -!- i_c-Y [Icy@cpe-69-204-242-163.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:19 <+mtgrss111> You know, that review I made a while back seems to have dumped a lot of negative feedback in my inbox... o_O 06:19 <+mtgrss111> 6 more emails? about a review? 06:22 <+Netham45> teaches you to have an opinion. 06:22 < Dam\__> mtgrss111: Ha-ha, w\hat'd they say? 06:24 <+mtgrss111> "Oh, you're so mean to that programmer!" "That kid is probably 12 years old, you bully!" "lol ur rite his project was stupid lolol hes an idot" 06:24 <+mtgrss111> copy/pasted, i swear to god 06:25 < millinao> hahahah 06:25 < Dam\__> Ha. 06:25 < millinao> <3 the internet 06:25 <+mtgrss111> I never got 6 emails about Pokemon o_O 06:28 -!- mtgrss111 [~Administr@c-98-194-46-169.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [] 06:33 -!- Spengo_ [~Spengo@64.251.246.81] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:36 -!- Spengo [~Spengo@64.251.246.81] has joined #tcpa 06:38 <+Netham45> holy crap 06:38 <+Netham45> wow 06:38 <+Netham45> trying to find an older version of some phone software 06:38 <@_Auron_> this song is awesome 06:38 <+Netham45> all I can find is torrents of it(a free program) and the current version... 06:43 -!- mtgrss111 [~Administr@c-98-194-46-169.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 06:43 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v mtgrss111] by etaonrish 06:43 <+mtgrss111> sorry, i had to log on to this channel one more time when i found this: 06:43 <+mtgrss111> "Description: Slow Super smash bros. game, nothing special. comments(i know its bad) jrodriguez1992@gmail.com P.S. don't send Joe Young hate mail for being mean I talked to him he is not a bad guy, he reviewed my older file which had arrogant text in the readme which i now changed. " 06:44 <+mtgrss111> I had only merely metioned it. Yet he re-updated to include that text XD 06:46 <+mtgrss111> this guys is making it harder and harder for me to not wanting to revise my review 06:46 <+mtgrss111> >_> 06:46 <+mtgrss111> well anyway, good night. 06:46 -!- mtgrss111 [~Administr@c-98-194-46-169.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [] 06:52 -!- ryantmer [~ryantmer@dhcp185-155.theedge.ca] has joined #tcpa 06:59 -!- bsparks [~NinjaDrag@d60-65-200-180.col.wideopenwest.com] has joined #tcpa 07:00 <@efneTI92> [bsparks] Look! It's Captain Sarcasm, Master of the Universe! 07:17 -!- millinao [~millinao@c-71-193-154-229.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:23 -!- jd19 [~jd@173-21-113-34.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:30 -!- Barrett [~berto_cha@75-165-225-65.slkc.qwest.net] has quit [] 07:32 -!- Dam\__ [~Winterven@216.117.122.195] has quit [Quit: "No reason remains for us to stay." (0AD)] 07:44 <@Nikky> Should kick Ox40 07:44 <@Nikky> or not kick 07:44 <@Nikky> He hasn't said anything stupid in the buffer. 07:44 <@Nikky> So I guess not. 07:45 < _Digital> I think you are bored 07:54 <@Nikky> Never. 07:54 <@Nikky> I do not "bore" 07:54 <@Nikky> Like a human does 07:55 < _Digital> what do you do instead? "digg" 07:55 < _Digital> ? 07:55 <@Nikky> yes 07:58 -!- Goplat [~goplat@76-191-156-24.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has quit [Time left until the Apocalypse: 28yrs 50wks 3days 19hrs 15mins 17secs] 08:13 -!- glk [glk@adsl-70-234-142-58.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 08:15 -!- glk [glk@adsl-70-234-142-58.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net] has joined #tcpa 08:16 < _Digital> after having azureus open for less than 2 hours, the collective bandwidth of my seeds is no more than about 8 Mbps. 08:19 <+prime_> maybe that's as fast as you can d/l 08:19 < _Digital> this is my ul 08:19 < _Digital> I like seeding a lot 08:19 < _Digital> current ratio is... 08:19 < _Digital> ~23.374:1 08:20 < _Digital> sorry, 28 08:20 <+prime_> what are you constantly downloading/uploading? 08:20 < _Digital> I just leave the stuff I've downloaded as seeds for a long time 08:20 < _Digital> once they get really high I get rid of them 08:21 < _Digital> or really slow as in no one downloading them anymore 08:21 <+prime_> i seed to 150 percent which should be more than enough if everyone else does the same 08:21 < _Digital> if, which from experience doesn't happen 08:22 <+prime_> well, there are exceptions 08:22 <+prime_> if there are only 1 or 2 seeds i have seeded to 40:1 08:22 < _Digital> so I try and be a counter for those exceptions with the torrents I have 08:22 -!- jd19 [~jd@173-21-113-34.client.mchsi.com] has joined #tcpa 08:22 <+prime_> there are some rare (internet rare i guess) music tracks 08:22 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v jd19] by efneTI81 08:22 <+prime_> mostly classical recordings 08:23 < _Digital> I didn't have this policy to begin with so I'm making up for it now 08:23 < _Digital> nice 08:23 < _Digital> out of 25, 12 are under 25:1 for me right now 08:24 <+prime_> and then there are others that reach 3:1 before i can finish 08:24 < _Digital> heh 08:26 < _Digital> over my vacation next week I think I'll finish my work on encoding mp2 to h.264 and setting up iptables 08:28 < _Digital> if I have the time and patience, I'll be switching to a hardened security profile 08:50 -!- Tyler2 [~nexon@residence-204-172.henday.ualberta.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:33 -!- millinao [~millinao@c-71-193-154-229.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 09:36 -!- glk [glk@adsl-70-234-142-58.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net] has quit [grahamkendall.net/ my url] 09:41 < millinao> poke 09:41 * _Digital pokes back 09:44 < millinao> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysCBGquU_HM bad ass 09:54 <@E-J> http://www.zdnet.com.au/insight/software/soa/Is-it-Windows-7-or-KDE-4-/0,139023769,339294810,00.htm 09:58 < _Digital> nice E-J 10:10 -!- leofox [leofox@leofox.student.utwente.nl] has joined #tcpa 10:10 <@efneTI92> [leofox] All we do in hell is play DDR! 10:19 -!- obnauticu [~lol@c-24-22-20-142.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [] 10:21 -!- millinao [~millinao@c-71-193-154-229.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:30 -!- _Digital [~DC@pool-71-165-124-42.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: _Digital] 11:27 <@E-J> http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/4599/kidow4.jpg 11:36 -!- benryves [~benryves@host81-157-218-48.range81-157.btcentralplus.com] has joined #tcpa 11:36 -!- mode/#tcpa [+o benryves] by efneTI86 11:46 <@E-J> hello benDR 11:46 <@benryves> Wotcha E-J 11:46 -!- rivereye [~Rivereye@c-24-11-113-194.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:47 -!- rivereye [~Rivereye@c-24-11-113-194.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 11:47 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v rivereye] by efneTI89 11:53 <@E-J> http://lh4.ggpht.com/_S0f-AWxKVdM/SSmK4GDicMI/AAAAAAAADnk/uprSErd9ioo/s1600-h/men-tshirt (15)[2].jpg 11:53 <@E-J> damn 11:53 <@E-J> http://lh4.ggpht.com/_S0f-AWxKVdM/SSmK4GDicMI/AAAAAAAADnk/uprSErd9ioo/s1600-h/men-tshirt%20(15)%5B2%5D.jpg 11:54 <@benryves> Heh, Opera stops linkifying after the ) 12:02 <@E-J> maybe i finally clean my wirejungle 12:04 <@benryves> But it's a delicate ecosystem supporting many rare strains of life! :( 12:07 <@E-J> :) only life strains it support are dust poodles 12:12 <@benryves> http://www.b3ta.com/board/9159369 :) 12:19 -!- i_c-Y [Icy@cpe-69-204-242-163.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa 12:20 <@E-J> heh 13:06 -!- ports_ [~ports@64.146.49.170] has joined #tcpa 13:15 -!- NovaYoshi [~NovaYoshi@pool-71-127-94-116.aubnin.fios.verizon.net] has joined #tcpa 13:15 < NovaYoshi> Why would Nintendo go and create a custom ASIC mapper just for one game? 13:15 < NovaYoshi> The MMC2 was only used for Punchout... 13:15 < NovaYoshi> A waste if you ask me... 13:16 <@benryves> Were there many different mappers on the NES? 13:16 < NovaYoshi> Yes 13:16 < NovaYoshi> My demo's using the MMC1 13:17 <@benryves> I pity the poor emulator authors ;) 13:18 < NovaYoshi> Well, it's mostly variations... there are groups of mappers that act the same, but have a different amount of ROM or might include extra RAM, ect 13:18 <@benryves> Ah, OK, that's not so bad. 13:18 < NovaYoshi> Yeah... 13:19 < NovaYoshi> All the MMC1 mappers are covered by $01 13:20 <@Andy_J> Good morning! 13:20 <@benryves> Wotcha Andy_J 13:20 < NovaYoshi> I kinda fell in love with the SNROM... it's a variant of the MMC1 mapper with 8k of extra RAM, and CHRRAM, so I don't have to include the graphics separate from the program, and can even use encryption if I want to... 13:21 <@Andy_J> benryves: do you have any experience with the Registry in .NET? I keep getting access denied when I try to write my license key out, even though I'm allowed to in regedit =/ 13:21 <@Andy_J> might the license compiler drop any privileges it might have to do that? =/ 13:22 <@benryves> Andy_J: regedit prompts for elevation. 13:22 <@Andy_J> not on xp =/ 13:22 <@Andy_J> it just let me do stuff 13:22 <@benryves> Oh, so you're logged in as admin? 13:22 <@Andy_J> Apparently 13:23 <@benryves> In which case you should be able to wreak havoc all over the registry from .NET 13:23 <@benryves> At least, in my experience. :\ 13:23 <@benryves> Which key are you writing to? 13:23 <@Andy_J> HKCR\Licenses\(my GUID) 13:23 < NovaYoshi> I annoy my cousin by telling him how I adore my '64 and everything :3 13:24 <@benryves> Andy_J: Hm, that may be why, I've only dealt with HKCU 13:25 <@Andy_J> =/ 13:25 <@benryves> .NET has its own set of security policies which may be causing the issue (as I'm sure you may have noticed if you try to run a .NET app directly off a network share). 13:26 -!- ports_ [~ports@64.146.49.170] has quit [Quit: You know, it's the first time someone suggested I go in that direction!] 13:26 < NovaYoshi> I like how C opens up everything to me and doesn't protect anything... 13:26 <@benryves> NovaYoshi: You're writing NES software in C? 13:27 < NovaYoshi> Actually, I'm using ASM 13:27 <@Andy_J> well I'll play with it more 13:27 < NovaYoshi> The C compiler of CC65 isn't as efficient as its assembler 13:27 <@benryves> Well, I assumed you'd be using 6502 :\ 13:27 <@Andy_J> try it in a standalone program and not in something that ends up running under lc.exe 13:28 <@benryves> Andy_J: At least on my machine, Permission Sets > Everything > Registry is set up as "Grant assemblies unrestricted access to the registry". 13:28 <@Andy_J> *shrug* 13:28 <@Andy_J> I think it's the only thing holding up this component licensing demo I've whipped up yesterday 13:29 <@Andy_J> RSA signing <3 13:29 <@benryves> Heh :) 13:29 <@Andy_J> Just kind of useless if it can't store the license to the registry :) 13:29 <@benryves> Does it have to go in the registry? 13:29 <@Andy_J> That's the easiest place to put it 13:29 * benryves shivers 13:29 <@Andy_J> (Other components we have licensed store it in the same place) 13:30 <@Andy_J> Well that would seem to be the point of HKCR\Licenses 13:30 <@benryves> I guess. Storing anything in the registry tends to rub me up the wrong way, but I suppose it's unavoidable (esp. as it's derived from COM licencing). 13:30 <@Andy_J> There's nothing keeping our code from looking elsewhere I guess 13:31 <@Andy_J> but I'd rather not litter the filesystem 13:33 <@Andy_J> Apologies for crappy camera phone. http://ajanata.com/junk/work/200902060825_00004.jpg http://ajanata.com/junk/work/200902060826_00005.jpg http://ajanata.com/junk/work/200902060826_00006.jpg 13:34 <@benryves> Heh :) 13:34 <@Andy_J> the window really screwed it up 13:34 <@Andy_J> especially as that's an east-facing window 13:35 <@benryves> I would have thought that printing large time and date stamps over the image had been made redundant by EXIF. :P 13:36 <@Andy_J> I don't think the camera application applies exif data 13:36 <@benryves> It does :) 13:37 <@benryves> Er, unless HTC_Wizard is some file transfer software. 13:38 <@Andy_J> oh, didn't know it did 13:39 <@benryves> Doesn't look like Firefox reports it, at any rate. 13:39 <@benryves> I'll counter with http://www.benryves.com/images/orange.jpg :) 13:40 -!- \\BAF\IRC [ferrisr@cpe-74-67-34-29.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa 13:40 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v \\BAF\IRC] by Remius 13:47 -!- i_c-Y [Icy@cpe-69-204-242-163.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 13:57 <@Andy_J> http://tcpa.pastebin.com/d4a363e85 13:57 <@Andy_J> grumble 13:58 <@benryves> Visual Studio 2005? :'( 13:58 < NovaYoshi> Good ol' GCC at my side 13:58 <@Andy_J> HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Licenses\8d1c2499-cda7-3ef6-ba45-5008605e84da 13:58 <@Andy_J> is where it's trying to write 13:59 <@benryves> Andy_J: Lambda expressions, extension methods, implicit types, anonymous types, LINQ, automatic properties... You're missing out big-time. :\ 13:59 <@Andy_J> Not my fault. 14:00 <@Andy_J> And if I try to CreateSubKey on my GUID instead of just OpenSubKey it, it errors there (even when the subkey already exists) 14:00 <@Andy_J> I must be doing it wrong. 14:01 < bsparks> ur doint wrong 14:01 <@Andy_J> http://tcpa.pastebin.com/d2ec60d3e 14:08 <@Andy_J> hmm, I'm getting an array index exception if I manually set the thing in the registry... no idea why, if it was getting as far as trying to save the license then all of the code should have been working 14:08 <@Andy_J> I need a debuggable lc.exe =/ 14:09 <@benryves> You're going to kick yourself, Andy_J. :P Registry.ClassesRoot.OpenSubKey(@"Licenses"); -> Registry.ClassesRoot.OpenSubKey(@"Licenses", true); 14:09 <@Andy_J> ok 14:10 <@benryves> The second parameter is "writable", defaulting to false. 14:11 -!- ports_ [~ports@abl13.foods.uiuc.edu] has joined #tcpa 14:11 <@benryves> (I guess you know that @ disables escaping within a string literal?) 14:11 <@Andy_J> --------------------------- 14:11 <@Andy_J> Valid License 14:11 <@Andy_J> --------------------------- 14:11 <@Andy_J> Your license key has been accepted. TODO include their name to shame copiers ;) 14:11 <@Andy_J> --------------------------- 14:11 <@Andy_J> OK 14:11 <@Andy_J> --------------------------- 14:11 <@Andy_J> benryves++ 14:11 <@Andy_J> oh is that what that's for 14:11 <@Andy_J> I thought it was like in Obj-C where it means "Unicode string" 14:12 <@benryves> Andy_J: Ah, everything is Unicode throughout in .NET. So "Unable to open HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\\Licenses\\" could be @"Unable to open HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Licenses\", for example. 14:12 < ports_> http://leasticoulddo.com/ 14:13 < ports_> HAHA todays comic is great 14:13 <@Andy_J> Ok. 14:13 <@Andy_J> well it saves to the registry now :) 14:13 -!- Spengo [~Spengo@64.251.246.81] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:13 <@Andy_J> now I have to debug why it's crashing when it tries to read 14:14 -!- Spengo [~Spengo@64.251.246.81] has joined #tcpa 14:14 <@benryves> You can hook the debugger into external processes if need be. 14:14 <@Andy_J> System.IndexOutOfRangeException: Index was outside the bounds of the array. 14:14 <@Andy_J> at E2GLicenseManager.E2GLicense..ctor(String key) in C:\Documents and Settings\ajjanata.INTRANET\My Documents\Visual Studio 2005\Projects\E2GLicenseTesting\E2GLicenseManager\E2GLicense.cs:line 47 14:14 <@Andy_J> Or I can just guess where it is and catch it and throw a msgbox :) 14:15 <@Andy_J> d'oh, I'm not returning the right thing to the License class XD 14:16 <@Andy_J> or rather, it's returning the Base64 version of what it's supposed to be returning. 14:16 <@benryves> Heh :) 14:18 <@benryves> My current issues are with some of the more peculiar oversights in WPF. :\ 14:19 < bsparks> benryves, I own a motorola phone :( 14:20 <@benryves> Is that a bad thing? I've never seen one. :| 14:20 < bsparks> the i530 is the only good motorola phone -. 14:20 < bsparks> *=/ 14:21 <@benryves> Oh, they make those Razr things I've heard so many wonderful stories about. 14:22 < bsparks> Razr, Rizr, Pebl, Krzr etc 14:22 < bsparks> the Moto Fone line :( 14:22 < bsparks> http://www.gsmarena.com/t_mobile_sidekick_slide-2218.php 14:22 <@benryves> Krzr? They were really getting desperate by that point, weren't they? 14:23 < bsparks> yeah :P 14:23 < sir_lewk> heyya #tcpa 14:24 <@benryves> Heya sir_lewk :) 14:25 <@Andy_J> wow I think it's working. 14:27 < sir_lewk> huzzah! 14:27 <@benryves> Woo. :D 14:27 < sir_lewk> what is "it" may I ask? 14:28 <@Andy_J> .net class library license manager 14:28 < sir_lewk> ah, sounds like buckets of fun ;) 14:28 -!- NovaYoshi [~NovaYoshi@pool-71-127-94-116.aubnin.fios.verizon.net] has left #tcpa [Leaving] 14:33 < sir_lewk> http://www.zdnet.com.au/insight/software/soa/Is-it-Windows-7-or-KDE-4-/0,139023769,339294810,00.htm lulz 14:34 < sir_lewk> conclusion. most people don't know/care about shit 14:37 <@benryves> sir_lewk: Stating the obvious, I feel. :D 14:37 <+jd19> i think i've seen that link posted in every room i've been in 14:42 -!- ports_ [~ports@abl13.foods.uiuc.edu] has quit [Quit: You know, it's the first time someone suggested I go in that direction!] 14:42 < sir_lewk> jd19: well I wouldn't want to disappoint :P 14:42 < sir_lewk> it was slashdotted after all ;) 14:43 * benryves crosses himself. 14:43 < bsparks> work time 14:44 < sir_lewk> haha 14:46 <@Andy_J> sir_lewk: you're only a few hours late with that link 14:46 <@Andy_J> Lastlog: 14:46 <@Andy_J> 04:54:39 <@E-J> http://www.zdnet.com.au/insight/software/soa/Is-it-Windows-7-or-KDE-4-/0,139023769,339294810,00.htm 14:46 <@Andy_J> 09:33:58 < sir_lewk> http://www.zdnet.com.au/insight/software/soa/Is-it-Windows-7-or-KDE-4-/0,139023769,339294810,00.htm lulz 14:46 <@Andy_J> End of Lastlog 14:47 < sir_lewk> haha 14:48 < bsparks> not work time :( 14:50 -!- Ox40Work [~KevinK@68-117-29-62.static.fdul.wi.charter.com] has joined #tcpa 14:51 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Ox40Work] by SnowCrash 14:53 < bsparks> np: Metronomy - A Thing for Me [0:17-3:29/247kbps] 14:53 < bsparks> Best song evar, of the day. 14:53 <@benryves> Can't say I know it. :\ 14:54 < bsparks> benryves, it was a free video on iTunes, this is actually a great way to get new music :) 14:54 < bsparks> same way I found boxer rebellion 14:54 < bsparks> and how I heard about the white tie affair 14:55 < sir_lewk> eew itunes 14:55 <@Andy_J> <3 itunes 14:55 < bsparks> <3 iTunes:mac 14:55 < sir_lewk> I find my new music from various shoutcast streams 14:56 < sir_lewk> yeah, itunes just annoys the hell out of me on windows 14:56 < bsparks> I also find a LOT of music from TV adverts o.o 14:56 < sir_lewk> I can't speak for the mac version 14:56 < bsparks> like, a stupid amount 14:56 < sir_lewk> hmmm 14:56 < bsparks> cobra starship, mgmt, michael tolcher [ sp? ], etc 14:56 <@benryves> Amazon > iTunes 14:57 < bsparks> benryves, I never said I _buy_ anything from iTunes ;) 14:57 <@benryves> DRM-free high-quality MP3, yes please. :) 14:57 < bsparks> except iPod apps 14:57 < bsparks> also, the few things I have bought from iTunes are always iTunes+ 14:57 < bsparks> so, high quality drm free mp4 :) 14:57 -!- Spengo_ [~Spengo@64.251.246.81] has joined #tcpa 14:57 <@benryves> Oh, does iTunes+ sound quality not suck? 14:58 < bsparks> Not in the least o.o 14:58 <@benryves> My sister buys regular iTunes stuff and it's pretty atrocious. 14:58 < sir_lewk> might be the music too ;) 14:58 < bsparks> argh >.< my internal sound system just blew :( bout time, but still 14:58 < sir_lewk> ouch 14:58 < bsparks> sir_lewk, firewire surround sound card ftw! 14:59 <@benryves> sir_lewk: Well, compressing the dynamic range is the old trick, I guess they need to apply a tin bath filter too. 14:59 < bsparks> except, it crashes the Unreal engine 14:59 < bsparks> reminds me! I need to look up the remake of Forever Young from that new zealand commercial 14:59 -!- Spengo [~Spengo@64.251.246.81] has quit [Ping timeout: 202 seconds] 15:00 < sir_lewk> benryves: yeah :-/ 15:00 < sir_lewk> bsparks: why in the world should a soundcard crash Unreal? 15:00 < sir_lewk> surely the soundcard is abstracted by windows... 15:01 <@benryves> sir_lewk: You never used Windows XP, did you? 15:01 * Ox40Work sadly feels lost without /b/ 15:01 < bsparks> sir_lewk, because it's a firewire soundcard, and OS X :) 15:01 < bsparks> the drivers are outdated and a little buggy >.> 15:01 < sir_lewk> oh 15:01 < sir_lewk> benryves: I try not to :) 15:02 < bsparks> the game sees it as a Surround Sound card, and the card is damanding they put everything into 2 channels [ I only have headphones atm ] and the game freaks 15:02 <@benryves> sir_lewk: Hardware sound acceleration was such an issue under Windows (chiefly thanks to terrible drivers) they removed hardware accelerated DirectSound it from Vista, so you need to use OpenAL if you're desperate for hardware acceleration now. 15:02 < sir_lewk> I used it in highschool on the school computers (where I spent most of my highschool career), and I use it on my laptop for games on occasion 15:02 < sir_lewk> hmm 15:03 < sir_lewk> well opengl is a better choice for games in general, directx is nice if you *only* plan on porting to windows and the xbox 15:03 <@benryves> Uh? I said OpenAL. 15:03 < sir_lewk> yeah, semi-related topics though 15:03 <@benryves> And "OpenGL is a better choice for games in general" is pretty laughable. 15:04 <@benryves> (Given that the majority of games use Direct3D). 15:04 < sir_lewk> depends on your target audiances 15:04 <@benryves> Especially as OpenGL 3.0 is such a dud. :\ 15:04 < bsparks> [ seriously, if you have iTunes and 44MB of free space, download this movie :) it's awesome to watch and free ] 15:05 < sir_lewk> generic/big game houses like EA are going to use directx of course, but software houses like iD, or more indy developers go with opengl for portability 15:05 < sir_lewk> and macs are becoming far more popular, can't ignore them forever 15:06 <@benryves> It probably doesn't help that when Carmack picked OpenGL Direct3D was utter crap. :P 15:06 < sir_lewk> true ;) 15:06 < sir_lewk> macs would be an excellent target platform though, they are powerful like PCs, but they have uniform hardware like consoles 15:06 < sir_lewk> best of both worlds ;) 15:06 < bsparks> sir_lewk, THANK you :) 15:07 < sir_lewk> :) 15:07 <@benryves> sir_lewk: Ultimately both can produce the same results, it just depends on your coding style. 15:07 < sir_lewk> yeah 15:08 < bsparks> hrm :( this isn't the right version of forever young 15:08 < sir_lewk> and if you have half a million developers to through at a game, then you can afford to target everything 15:08 < sir_lewk> *throw at a game 15:08 <@benryves> sir_lewk: I expect most people would be using some form of middleware anyway. 15:10 < sir_lewk> you mean like a licensed engine from some other company? 15:10 <@benryves> Yes. 15:10 <@benryves> Assuming they were in it to make games, not engines. 15:10 < sir_lewk> yeah, that's true 15:10 < sir_lewk> engines is the more intersting field imho, but then again, I'm not really into computer games, or game design in general 15:11 < bsparks> ohhhhh.... Pluto/Milan Borich 15:11 < bsparks> okay :) 15:12 <@Andy_J> This is really slick. 15:12 -!- Merthsoft [~Shaun@140.141.26.108] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:12 <@Andy_J> except the license key is almost 1 KB long 15:12 <@Andy_J> lol. 15:14 <@E-J> good way to get something to do is disconnect internet, though now that i have done something like cleaning and clearing the wire jungle i need internet to figure out which adapter is for which linksys 15:14 < sir_lewk> my new circle generator is really slick :P 15:14 < sir_lewk> http://www.cs.drexel.edu/~jlg95/stuff/circle.cpp 15:14 < sir_lewk> lol E-J 15:15 < bsparks> ooh, Rod Steward :P 15:15 < bsparks> forgot he did this song :D 15:15 <@benryves> Andy_J: 1KB isn't too bad, really? 15:15 <@E-J> so i'm ircing with mobile broadband using my phone as modem in this laptop 15:15 <@Andy_J> benryves: no, not really 15:15 <@Andy_J> I guess it *is* storing a bit of data about the user there too 15:15 <@benryves> Andy_J: As long as you don't expect customers to enter it by hand, of course. :D 15:15 <@Andy_J> Of course not. 15:16 <@Andy_J> This is only going to be used by other developers wishing to compile against our components anyway. 15:16 < sir_lewk> weird 15:16 <@Andy_J> If they don't know how to use the clipboard, they shouldn't be linking to our component. :) 15:17 <@Andy_J> It's essentially Base64(`````)`Base64(RSA signature of raw string of first part) 15:18 <+jd19> E-J: i tested my phone for that purpose the other day and it works pretty decent 15:19 <@Andy_J> It isn't pretty but it ought to be quite secure. 15:19 < sir_lewk> http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/02/06/1337208&from=rss lolmormons 15:20 < mokomull> Andy_J: Curse you for writing code that requires developer licenses... 15:20 <@Andy_J> mokomull: not my call :P 15:20 <@benryves> mokomull: Heh, why? 15:21 <@Andy_J> it's a rather big component anyway 15:21 <@Andy_J> a component-ized version of one of the company's big products 15:21 < mokomull> benryves: I'm sort of of the opinion that "if you need a license key, you're doing it wrong" 15:21 <@benryves> mokomull: How else would you do it? 15:21 < mokomull> I also HATE binary-only blobs that a developer has to link against 15:22 < mokomull> benryves: Trust the damn customers? 15:22 <@Andy_J> mokomull: I believe we're dealing with multi-thousand dollar per seat here. 15:22 <@benryves> mokomull: Link against? 15:22 < mokomull> I shouldn't have to explain the linking step of the compilation process to you, benryves 15:23 <@benryves> mokomull: Indeed, but that's C/C++ specific, and we're not dealing with C or C++ :\ 15:23 <@Andy_J> I don't know what the final plans for this are going to be. 15:23 < mokomull> benryves: With .NET, linking still happens, just much closer to runtime ::) 15:23 <@Andy_J> I was just told to figure out a way to do it. 15:23 < bsparks> this stupid song is gonna bug me for days now 15:23 <@benryves> mokomull: Eh, you could possibly call it dynamic linking at a stretch. 15:23 <@Andy_J> And it's been a good way to get back up to speed on .net and c# 15:23 < sir_lewk> "10:22 <@Andy_J> mokomull: I believe we're dealing with multi-thousand dollar per seat here." I can say with the utmost in confidence, that nothing I ever make will be worth that much money per seat. 15:24 < sir_lewk> ;) 15:24 < sir_lewk> or anything for that matter :P 15:24 < mokomull> And with a developer library, especially, there's nothing to say the customer can't just change the bits in memory that say "passed the license check" 15:24 <@Andy_J> Our clients are also oil companies so we might as well milk them for as much as we can :p 15:24 < mokomull> point. 15:24 <@Andy_J> mokomull: .net tries to make it harder to do that :) 15:25 < sir_lewk> remind me why I should like .net again? ;) 15:25 <@Andy_J> Yeah, if you *really* want to get around it, you will. 15:25 <@Andy_J> But it's enough to keep people who would play around with it for a day or so discouraged. 15:26 <@Andy_J> Esepcially if you dotfuscate it enough 15:27 < sir_lewk> lol, "dotfuscate" 15:28 <@benryves> Andy_J: Which profiler do you use, btw? 15:28 <@Andy_J> hmm? 15:28 <+Ox40Work> haha @ dotfuscate 15:28 <@Andy_J> I've got Reflector on here, it's what my boss uses 15:28 <@Andy_J> This is still mostly proof of concept 15:29 * benryves wonders what's so funny about dotfuscate. :( 15:30 < sir_lewk> it's a funny combination of .net and obfuscate 15:30 <@benryves> Andy_J: A profiler is a tool to measure runtime performance (CPU time, memory usage etc) so you can spot what's slowing your app down to make optimisations. 15:30 <@Andy_J> benryves: dunno, I haven't done any of that 15:30 <@benryves> sir_lewk: Oh, the product is called Dotfuscator. 15:30 < sir_lewk> no offense, but most of the .net code I've seen posted here makes my head want to explode ;) 15:30 < sir_lewk> oh 15:31 <@Andy_J> I can tell you right now the RSA calls are the slow spots :P 15:31 < sir_lewk> well that's not quite as humorous 15:31 <@benryves> Andy_J: Fair enough, I've not found any decent free ones yet. :( 15:32 <@benryves> sir_lewk: What's head-exploding about it in particular? The C# syntax? 15:33 * bsparks is awayish, watching season 6 of mythbusters 15:35 <+Ox40Work> sir_lewk: :( 15:35 <+Ox40Work> dotfuscate is not funny any lnger.... 15:36 <@benryves> Dotfuscator's price is far from funny. 15:37 <+Ox40Work> :( 15:37 <+Ox40Work> I thought it was a funny-haha joke. 15:37 <@benryves> (To the extent that it's not even listed on their site). 15:38 <+Ox40Work> dumbass Opera programmers dont know red from black. 15:38 <@benryves> ..? 15:38 <@benryves> Link? :P 15:38 <+Ox40Work> styling an HR: "Thin, red (unfortunately black in Opera), solid line, 1px high:" 15:39 <@benryves>
<- looks red to me. 15:40 <@benryves> You'll probably need color: red; in there too to satisfy IE as well, though. 15:40 <+Ox40Work> http://www.sovavsiti.cz/css/hr.html 15:41 <+Ox40Work> lame opera. Color blind P.O.S. 15:41 <+Ox40Work> :D 15:41 < bsparks> opera needs a straightup black and grey option 15:41 -!- kirsk [~krisk@j239072.upc-j.chello.nl] has joined #tcpa 15:42 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v kirsk] by efneTI89, efneTI92 15:42 <+Ox40Work> lol 15:42 <+Ox40Work> kirsk! 15:42 <+kirsk> lolz 15:42 <+kirsk> ox 15:42 <@benryves> Ox40Work: lame article author. Colour blind P.O.S. http://i42.tinypic.com/v7xmjo.png 15:43 < sir_lewk> "<@benryves> sir_lewk: What's head-exploding about it in particular? The C# syntax?" the syntax, and I guess just the kind of code that results from it 15:43 <+kirsk> my delivery arrived! 15:43 <+Ox40Work> lol benryves 15:43 <+kirsk> but it arrived 15 minutes before i got home so they took it back and will deliver it monday morning : ( 15:44 <@benryves> sir_lewk: Fair enough. :\ 15:44 < sir_lewk> course, that happens with some languages 15:45 < sir_lewk> perl does that too ie 15:47 <@benryves> You can write some pretty novel code in C# 3, eg var Numbers = new[] { 1, 4, 3, 25, 2, 6, 23 }; var Evens = from i in Numbers where (i & 1) == 0 select i; :) 15:49 < sir_lewk> whoa 15:50 <+kirsk> haha: http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/394401/324f86b0/nieuw._de_kattenmuts.html 15:59 <@benryves> sir_lewk: It's like SQL, but backwards! :D 16:03 < sir_lewk> lol 16:03 <@benryves> Also, heh - http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/02/06/fotw/ 16:07 < sir_lewk> lmao 16:07 < sir_lewk> silly hicks 16:09 -!- HelDragon [~Nocebo@modemcable022.187-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:09 -!- HelDragon [~Nocebo@modemcable022.187-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #tcpa 16:11 -!- ryantmer [~ryantmer@dhcp185-155.theedge.ca] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 16:13 <+Ox40Work> it ends in a smiley!!! 16:13 <+Ox40Work> :) 16:14 <@benryves> Ox40Work: ? 16:14 < bsparks> Why does jamie have steampunk glasses ._. 16:14 <+Ox40Work> benryves:ohhh nevermind :P 16:15 <@benryves> Ox40Work: What has a Nirvana album got to do with anything? 16:21 < sir_lewk> http://news.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/02/06/1444258&from=rss ... 16:21 < sir_lewk> wa-wa-wa-what?!!???!?! 16:21 * sir_lewk loses all hope in humanity, breaks down, and cries 16:22 < sir_lewk> My shields cannot repell idiocracy of this magnitude :( 16:23 <@benryves> What next, censorship of Wikipedia? Oh... 16:23 < sir_lewk> lol 16:23 <@benryves> Secretly tracking all site visits for advertising purposes? 16:23 < sir_lewk> it's pretty damn idiotic though, why doesn't espn just sell subscriptions to individual people? 16:24 * benryves has no idea what ESPN is :\ 16:24 <@benryves> A sports... channel? :\ 16:24 < sir_lewk> some stupid american sports cable channel 16:24 < sir_lewk> yeah 16:24 < bsparks> It's not the Discovery channel, so it sucks 16:24 < bsparks> Well, Discovery/History channel :) 16:24 < sir_lewk> pretty much ;) 16:24 < sir_lewk> yeah, those are my two channels 16:25 <@benryves> You knocking the BBC? :P 16:25 < bsparks> yup 16:25 < sir_lewk> nah, the BBC rocks too 16:25 < sir_lewk> that and movie channels. AMC and TCM 16:25 < bsparks> benryves, if a TV station has users pay a fee to have a television in their household... 16:25 < sir_lewk> HBO and the like if you get em 16:25 <@Nikky> BBC sucks. 16:25 < sir_lewk> Nikky swallows 16:25 <@benryves> bsparks: Where else would they get their funding? 16:26 -!- ryantmer [~ryantmer@ylknnt168-38.theedge.ca] has joined #tcpa 16:26 <@Nikky> Taxing the poor. 16:26 <@Nikky> As is standard. 16:26 < sir_lewk> benryves: well, presumably through donations 16:26 < sir_lewk> which is why PBS sucks 16:26 <@benryves> Part of the licence fee also goes to the commercial channels, though the majority of it does fund the BBC. 16:27 < sir_lewk> I'd rather pay money for good television, than to increase politician paychecks 16:27 <@benryves> £140/pa is perfectly reasonable, I think. 16:27 < sir_lewk> /pa? 16:27 <@benryves> Per Annum 16:27 < sir_lewk> ah 16:27 < sir_lewk> yeah 16:28 < sir_lewk> at least you can turn on a TV and not be brainflooded by cruft 16:28 <@benryves> BBC iPlayer (online service that lets you watch broadcasts up to 7 days after they were shown) does not require a licence. 16:28 <@benryves> ...yet, as I assume they will rectify that rather gaping loophole. :P 16:29 <@benryves> Indeed, it's so nice to be able to watch a film from start to end without ad breaks. :) 16:29 <+Ox40Work> lmao 16:29 <@benryves> Ox40Work: ? 16:32 < sir_lewk> what are they going to do though, require you to pay a tax for an internet connection? 16:33 < sir_lewk> that might be a bit far imho 16:33 <@benryves> sir_lewk: What, for BBC iPlayer? 16:33 < sir_lewk> yeah 16:33 < sir_lewk> "<@benryves> ...yet, as I assume they will rectify that rather gaping loophole. :P" 16:33 < sir_lewk> the TV tax should just be expanded if they need more money I'd say 16:34 <@benryves> Same as what they do with TVs; if you're not on the list of licensees, send the homeowner lengthy forms. 16:35 < sir_lewk> you have to fill out forms if you don't have a TV so you don't pay the tax? :/ 16:35 <@benryves> Yes, rather long and threatening ones. 16:35 < sir_lewk> :( 16:36 <@benryves> I suppose it would be easier if it was regulated by the government, but they run on the assumption that everyone has a TV. 16:36 <@benryves> http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/information/detectionandpenalties.jsp#link2 16:38 <@benryves> Heh, http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/information/excuses.jsp :P 16:38 <+Ox40Work> Some guy is emailing us trying to scam us. 16:38 <+Ox40Work> He wants us to send 20 lawnmowers (riding) to South Africa... 16:38 < bsparks> Why? :o 16:39 < sir_lewk> lol 16:48 < sir_lewk> http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/information/tvdetectorvans.jsp hmm 16:48 < sir_lewk> I presume they are picking up the EMF leakage off TVs 16:49 < sir_lewk> a nice faraday's cage should patch that right up ;D 16:49 <@benryves> That or it's purely a scare tactic. 16:50 < sir_lewk> oh, you think it's totally bogus? 16:50 <@benryves> I reckon so. 16:51 <@benryves> It's vaguely plausible with oldschool CRT TVs, if you're close enough. 16:51 < sir_lewk> (supposedly) you can reassemble CRT images via van eck phreaking from a decent distance, that's some pretty hardcore stuff though 16:52 <@benryves> Aye, I can see that working, but not with modern LCD/plasma sets. 16:52 < sir_lewk> yeah 16:53 < sir_lewk> it's been demonstrated with more modern laptop LCDs, but it's way harder. all those devices just look like noise though, unless you actally mananage to reassemble the image and confirm it 16:53 < sir_lewk> I can pick up my laptop screen on an AM radio using "tempest for eliza" for example, but only a foot or so away 16:54 < sir_lewk> http://www.erikyyy.de/tempest/ 16:54 <@benryves> Heh, gotta love Tempest for Eliza. :D 16:54 <@benryves> Certain Timex watches used the monitor to send data from the PC to the watch. 16:55 <@benryves> (Optically, though). 16:56 < sir_lewk> whoa, that's pretty cool 16:56 < sir_lewk> does it have a flashing window that you hold the watch up to or something? 16:57 <@benryves> Yep, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timex_Datalink#Wireless_data_transfer_mode 17:05 -!- rivereye [~Rivereye@c-24-11-113-194.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:06 < sir_lewk> whoa, awesome 17:10 < bsparks> benryves, old tech is old 17:10 <@benryves> bsparks: Redundancy is redundant, too. 17:10 < bsparks> :P 17:12 < bsparks> I wonder if Adam Savage has custom tshirts or if one can buy them 17:13 -!- i_c-Y [~Icy@dhcp03.ee.cooper.edu] has joined #tcpa 17:15 <+kirsk> what if the tv and everything attached to it is turned off 17:15 < sir_lewk> well, there are two possible methods I can think of 17:16 < sir_lewk> van eck phreaking, in which case turning off the set would prevent dection 17:16 <@benryves> kirsk: This is why I don't buy the detector van story. There are too many holes in it. 17:16 < sir_lewk> oooor, some sort of bizarre method in which they try to induce a current into the antenna and dectect the signal, or some bizarre thing like that 17:16 <+kirsk> yeah 17:16 < sir_lewk> either are highly unlikely to work 17:17 < sir_lewk> especially since "decector" vans came about in the 50s it looks like. Van Eck did't publish his paper until the 80s, the CIA and people supposedly knew about it before hand but that's rumours 17:18 <+kirsk> plus it doesnt make any financial sense to have guys drive detector vans around all day 17:19 < sir_lewk> http://www.cs.drexel.edu/~jlg95/stuff/emr.pdf the van eck paper 17:19 < sir_lewk> exactly 17:19 <+kirsk> hey 17:19 <+kirsk> what would it take to make a regular headphone wireless? 17:20 < sir_lewk> bluetooth, or just simple hackish wireless? 17:20 <+kirsk> bluetooth seems best because most are and it would recieve from a phone 17:20 < sir_lewk> I can't imagine it's easy, maybe you can purchase a small little device to do it though 17:21 <+kirsk> something like a tiny bluetooth headset reciever with stereo out to plug headphone in would be awesome 17:21 <@benryves> Or just get a very long lead. :P 17:21 < sir_lewk> yeah, can't say I've ever heard of them but I imagine they exist 17:21 <+kirsk> :P 17:22 < bsparks> bluetooth modules that plug into a standard 3.5mm jack? 17:22 <+kirsk> other way around 17:22 < bsparks> ? 17:23 <@benryves> On that note, I probably should get hold of one of those XBee devices to play with. 17:23 <+kirsk> phone -> bluetooth reciever -> stereo jack output -> headphone jack 17:23 < bsparks> Ahh 17:23 < bsparks> idk :P 17:23 <@benryves> (XBee = wireless module that defaults to acting as a dumb wireless serial link). 17:24 < sir_lewk> ooh, neat 17:24 < i_c-Y> hi 17:24 < i_c-Y> hihihihihi :) 17:24 <+kirsk> http://www.instructables.com/files/deriv/FDR/T8JF/FCHYNUVL/FDRT8JFFCHYNUVL.MEDIUM.jpg 17:24 < sir_lewk> sup i_c-icles? 17:24 <+kirsk> something like this 17:24 < i_c-Y> textbooks are super expensive for some reason 17:24 < i_c-Y> :( 17:25 < sir_lewk> yeah 17:25 < sir_lewk> just download all of them 17:25 < sir_lewk> or buy them off other students 17:25 <@benryves> i_c-Y: Heh, some new ones come with a single-use password to access the online content, to prevent students selling them on. Bastards. 17:25 < sir_lewk> or see if there is some sleezeball place around that has photocopies of them 17:25 < i_c-Y> yeah, benryves 17:25 < i_c-Y> but the ones i like dont do that 17:25 < i_c-Y> so its okay 17:30 -!- Goplat [~goplat@76-191-156-24.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has joined #tcpa 17:30 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Goplat] by efneTI92 17:47 -!- Dam\__ [~Winterven@216.117.122.114] has joined #tcpa 17:54 -!- ports_ [~ports@abl13.foods.uiuc.edu] has joined #tcpa 17:54 -!- benryves [~benryves@host81-157-218-48.range81-157.btcentralplus.com] has left #tcpa [] 18:01 <+kirsk> http://www.amazon.com/Jabra-A120s-100-61210000-02-Bluetooth-Adaptor/dp/B000FL4GBI/ref=pd_sim_e_3 18:01 <+kirsk> : o 18:02 <+kirsk> wait 18:03 <+kirsk> http://www.amazon.com/Jensen-Portable-Receiver/dp/B001EQFEIW/ref=pd_cp_e_2?pf_rd_p=413863501&pf_rd_s=center-41&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B001FI4HGO&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0EFR6XY6R9TGRJZM0Y8Q 18:03 <+kirsk> there 18:04 -!- Goplat [~goplat@76-191-156-24.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has quit [Time left until the Apocalypse: 28yrs 50wks 3days 9hrs 9mins 25secs] 18:26 -!- Dam\__ [~Winterven@216.117.122.114] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:46 -!- JoelS [~JSeligste@outbound285a.pasd.tfbnw.net] has joined #tcpa 18:54 -!- likeWOAH [~Icy@dhcp03.ee.cooper.edu] has joined #tcpa 18:55 -!- i_c-Y [~Icy@dhcp03.ee.cooper.edu] has quit [Quit: Insert generic /quit message here. ] 18:56 -!- ryantmer [~ryantmer@ylknnt168-38.theedge.ca] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 18:57 -!- i_c-Y [~Icy@dhcp03.ee.cooper.edu] has joined #tcpa 19:04 -!- ryantmer [~ryantmer@dhcp185-155.theedge.ca] has joined #tcpa 19:11 < leofox> kirsk http://i40.tinypic.com/5yxcu0.jpg 19:16 -!- likeWOAH [~Icy@dhcp03.ee.cooper.edu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:24 -!- i_c-Y [~Icy@dhcp03.ee.cooper.edu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:24 -!- i_c-Y [~Icy@dhcp03.ee.cooper.edu] has joined #tcpa 19:44 <+kirsk> leofox ^_^ 20:05 -!- Dam\__ [~Winterven@216.117.122.114] has joined #tcpa 20:06 < Dam\__> I am about to buy Audiosurf from Steam. They're only going to charge the ten dollars (and tax), right, and not any more? 20:07 <@_Auron_> I've never had steam charge me tax 20:07 <@_Auron_> and why would they charge you for anything other than what you buy? 20:08 <@Andy_J> if they don't charge tax you're supposed to report it on your state income tax :p (in Ohio at least) 20:08 <@_Auron_> Andy_J: fuck that :) 20:09 <@_Auron_> texas doesn't tax personal income 20:22 < Dam\__> Aww, the bank declined it because they said the address is wrong, but I'm pretty sure I put the right one... 20:23 * Dam\__ has never ordered anything on-line before. 20:23 <@_Auron_> is your billing address that you set up with your bank account the same as your current address? 20:24 < Dam\__> I tried my Levelland and my Lubbock address, and they said no to both. 20:25 <+kirsk> computer says no 20:26 < sir_lewk> wait 20:26 < sir_lewk> Dam\__ == damakura or whatever right? 20:26 < sir_lewk> Dam\__ == Randomist in other words 20:27 < sir_lewk> arn't you always buying shit off newegg, ricing out your computer every other month? 20:27 < ports_> hi 20:27 < sir_lewk> oh wait nvm, I'm thinking of netham 20:27 < Dam\__> sir_lewk: No, that is Netham45. :P 20:27 < sir_lewk> :) 20:27 < sir_lewk> sup ports_ 20:28 < Dam\__> Yay, it worked this time. 20:31 < sir_lewk> sweet :) 20:31 < sir_lewk> audiosurf is pretty fun and chillax 20:32 < ports_> at work 20:32 < ports_> playing a game 20:32 < ports_> you should join me 20:33 <@Andy_J> I have to kill half an hour before a meeting 20:33 <@Andy_J> and I don't want to get started on anything else 20:35 < sir_lewk> if there were two websites I could destroy in one single swoop, I'd pick slashdot and wikipedia 20:35 < sir_lewk> servers smashed, backups destroyed 20:35 < sir_lewk> I think the world would be a better place 20:37 <@Andy_J> 4chan and digg 20:41 -!- millinao [~millinao@c-67-166-86-30.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 20:41 < millinao> yay munchkin arrived 20:43 < sir_lewk> 4chan and dig are certainly runners up, I don't visit either though so I care less about them 20:43 < millinao> runners up to what 20:44 < sir_lewk> websites I would like to destroy forever 20:45 < sir_lewk> the first two being slashdot and wikipedia 20:45 < millinao> why would you want to destroy slashdot and wikipedia 20:45 < sir_lewk> I hate them 20:45 <@_Auron_> wtf 20:45 < sir_lewk> slashdot is just... horrible 20:45 <@_Auron_> you hate knowledge? 20:45 < sir_lewk> wikipedia is horribly corrupt 20:45 <@_Auron_> how in the fuck do you think slashdot is worse than digg? 20:46 < sir_lewk> I don't visit digg 20:46 < sir_lewk> but I'm addicted to slashdot. 20:46 < millinao> just because wikipedia is corrupt doesn't make it bad 20:47 < sir_lewk> I can't stand it, the buerocracy has corrupted it from within 20:47 -!- Tyler2 [~nexon@residence-204-172.henday.ualberta.ca] has joined #tcpa 20:47 <@efneTI92> [Tyler2] I no longer speak fluent dialup. 20:47 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Tyler2] by Remius, efneTI80 20:47 < sir_lewk> articles nolong even pretend to represent the truth, merely the truth as they would like it 20:48 < millinao> give an example 20:48 < sir_lewk> I would welcome a new Free encyclopedia, but I think this one needs to die 20:48 < sir_lewk> just type "wikipedia" into google news, every month or so they have a new scandal 20:48 < sir_lewk> I'm sick of it 20:48 <@Andy_J> encyclopedia dramatica 20:49 < sir_lewk> and I'm sick of them trying to guilt-trip money out of me. We gave them their content, now they want our money 20:49 < sir_lewk> Andy_J: yeah, that place is trash too 20:49 <@Andy_J> that's the point of that place though :p 20:49 < sir_lewk> right up there with 4chan 20:49 < sir_lewk> true :D 20:50 <@_Auron_> you take things too personally 20:50 < sir_lewk> perhaps 20:50 < sir_lewk> surely there are websites that you hate too? 20:50 <@_Auron_> I don't 'hate' 20:51 < sir_lewk> like, these arn't things that I've always known I hate, just things I have come to realize reaaaally rub me in the wrong way 20:51 < millinao> i don't hate any websites 20:51 < millinao> well maybe tcpa.calcg.org 20:51 <@_Auron_> the only sites I hate are ones that intentionally try to shove malware down your throat, but obviously I don't visit such sites. 20:51 < millinao> that site sucks 20:51 <@_Auron_> and that doesn't really count 20:51 <@_Auron_> for various reasons 20:51 < sir_lewk> perhaps I use the word "hate" loosely, any sites you really dislike? 20:52 <@_Auron_> not really 20:52 < sir_lewk> ok, facebook I hate, but I think it is genuinely good. I would not want to see it destroyed 20:52 < millinao> even though i visit it everyday reddit.com seems to annoy me a lot with their "politics" posting 20:52 <@_Auron_> actually yes, there is 20:52 <@_Auron_> myspace 20:52 <@Andy_J> FUCK myspace 20:52 <@_Auron_> ^ 20:52 < millinao> ^ 20:52 < sir_lewk> while sites like slashdot peddle sensationalism and pander to trolls, sites like facebook help friends stay in touch 20:53 <@_Auron_> facebook is fine, livejournal is fine... but myspace is total trash 20:53 < sir_lewk> yeah, myspace is terrible 20:53 < millinao> you know that 25 things about me meme in facebook 20:53 < sir_lewk> nope 20:53 < sir_lewk> I use facebook so my friends can email me without knowing how to email ;) 20:54 < millinao> who doesn't know how to email O_o 20:54 < sir_lewk> well, they are unwilling I suppose 20:54 <@_Auron_> millinao: old people and computer illiterate people 20:54 <@_Auron_> 'old people' being a stereotype of the latter via gae 20:54 <@_Auron_> age* 20:54 < sir_lewk> somehow sending PMs on facebook is much easier than emails or something 20:55 < sir_lewk> whatever, it doesn't really bother me 20:55 <@_Auron_> http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/04/29/technology/ballmer.531.jpg 20:56 * _Auron_ wonders why his roommate got home from work 3 hours early on a friday 20:56 <@_Auron_> though maybe his schedule is different this semester, haven't noticed 20:57 < sir_lewk> lol, ballmer is such a tool 20:58 <@_Auron_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGvHNNOLnCk 21:02 <@_Auron_> oh wow 21:02 <@_Auron_> http://golly.sourceforge.net/ticker.gif 21:06 < millinao> yar 21:06 < millinao> it wouldn't be hard to automatically generate any computation with that, since it is turing complete 21:08 < sir_lewk> oh damn that's impressive 21:09 < millinao> kind of cool to see the 1 and 0 gliders moving through the logic gates 21:11 < sir_lewk> mmhm 21:11 -!- millinao [~millinao@c-67-166-86-30.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:14 -!- i_c-Y [~Icy@dhcp03.ee.cooper.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:16 -!- glk [glk@adsl-75-50-22-20.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net] has joined #tcpa 21:26 <+Ox40Work> DAMN IT 21:26 <+Ox40Work> I spilled Rabbit Repellant all over my pants. 21:26 <+Ox40Work> Smells like pure ass. Main ingredient is Putrescent Egg Solids. 21:28 < sir_lewk> "rabbit repellant" O.o 21:28 < sir_lewk> sounds like something out of monty python 21:30 <+Ox40Work> O.o Its Liquid Fence... Rabbit / Deer repellant. 21:30 <+Ox40Work> Rabbit / Deer / Anything With a Nose Repellant, to be exact. 21:30 < sir_lewk> nasty 21:31 < sir_lewk> and you are supposed to use this crap around vegetable gardens or something O.o 21:31 <+Ox40Work> Yep. 21:31 <+Ox40Work> I tried to grab something off the top shelf, and it came along for the ride. 21:34 < sir_lewk> I would not want that stuff near my food >_< 21:35 <+Ox40Work> me either. 21:42 < Dam\__> I have been relaxed. That was ten dollars well-spent. :P 21:43 < sir_lewk> :) 21:43 * sir_lewk goes home 21:57 -!- i_c-Y [Icy@cpe-69-204-242-163.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa 21:59 < Dam\__> Hm. I think I like Chrome. If it was Firefox, VLC's plug-in would have taken out like *snaps* that. 22:27 -!- snowman [~snowman@rdbk-15592.mtaonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:34 -!- ports_ [~ports@abl13.foods.uiuc.edu] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 22:43 -!- snowman [~snowman@216.137.210.119] has joined #tcpa 22:51 -!- Spengo_ is now known as Spengo 22:58 * Dam\__ shakes hands with Windows and says, "You know what? You're alright." 23:00 -!- tifreak [DanielThor@1Cust6653.an3.ind20.da.uu.net] has joined #tcpa 23:00 < reppy> Dam: ugh, took me forever to find out why my videos were messed up in Firefox. Stupid VLC. :/ 23:02 < Dam\__> Yeah, VLC's plug-in is not so good. On YouTube and GVideo, it wants to download the whole videos. 23:02 < Dam\__> * before it starts playing. 23:11 -!- ticalcnoa [~chatzilla@ip70-189-96-58.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #tcpa 23:15 < sir_lewk> http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.ef7e1fa6c4ec12254b582bfec0f489aa.c11&show_article=1 lolwut 23:16 < sir_lewk> Dam\__: youtube videos are like a dozen or two MB, doesn't sound that bad to me... 23:17 <@chronomex> well, you don't get the instant gratification 23:18 < Dam\__> Yeah, but "Free YouTube" grabs the highest-quality stream, so that is a pretty long wait when it isn't streaming. 23:19 < sir_lewk> pffft 23:19 < sir_lewk> bitches need to slow down and learn to enjoy life 23:32 < Dam\__> I haven't used WMP in forever. Is it a good player? 23:34 < reppy> I like Media Player Classic :/ 23:35 < sir_lewk> mplayer or vlc player are the only players imho 23:36 < sir_lewk> mplayer is best, vlc player if you feel the strange desire to click on things while watching videos 23:36 -!- Spengo [~Spengo@64.251.246.81] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:37 < sir_lewk> VLC is easier with dvds with menus too 23:37 -!- Spengo [~Spengo@64.251.246.81] has joined #tcpa 23:42 -!- snowman [~snowman@216.137.210.119] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:44 -!- snowman [~snowman@rdbk-1536.mtaonline.net] has joined #tcpa 23:44 <@efneTI92> [snowman] http://jrush.dyndns.org/isaac/ mirrored at http://atlas64.selfip.net:8080/Mirror 23:45 < Dam\__> Holy crap, I'm already using eighty-four gigabytes of space. I've never used that much before... 23:46 < Dam\__> The funny part is my user files are only nearly eleven gigabytes. The rest of that is the system and programs. 23:46 <@E-J> i have, but just because of some movies/series 23:48 <@E-J> and of course music (now 54.2G) 23:49 < smart_> Dam\__: What OS? 23:49 < Dam\__> Vista. 23:49 < Dam\__> (So, that should not be too surprising. :P) 23:49 < smart_> Ah 23:49 < smart_> Nope :-) 23:50 < smart_> You checked out it's shadow drive thing? 23:50 < Dam\__> I don't even know where that's at. 23:50 < smart_> its 23:50 < Dam\__> (Or if I even have it, since I have Home Premium.) 23:50 < smart_> http://lifehacker.com/360781/recover-files-using-vistas-built+in-shadow-copies 23:51 < smart_> I've had clients' hard drives shrink to nothing because of that. 23:52 < Dam\__> Nope, I don't have it. 23:53 < Dam\__> Or, at least that's what vondur says in the comments. 23:53 < smart_> Hmm 23:53 < Spengo> how does it make their hard drives shrink to nothing? 23:53 < Dam\__> Spengo: Crazy-ass quantum mechanics? 23:53 < Spengo> surely the files that are "shadowed" or whatever are counted as free space on the hard drive and can be overwritten 23:54 < smart_> You'd think that 23:54 < smart_> But I've seen twice now where it ate the free space. 23:55 < Spengo> so what do you do to make it not do that 23:55 < Tari> disable it 23:55 < smart_> Turn it off 23:55 < Tari> then back it up somewhere else 23:56 < Tari> woo rsync 23:56 < smart_> hehe 23:57 < Dam\__> You an $(rsync) on Windows? 23:57 < Dam\__> * can --- Log closed Sat Feb 07 00:00:16 2009