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00:10 < Barrett> i_c-Y: I know you're an expert at just about everything
00:10 < Barrett> how about networking?
00:10 < ports_> Barrett, hey
00:10 < ports_> Barrett, you dont look like a geek
00:10 < Barrett> ?
00:10 < ports_> the tcpa photos
00:10 < ports_> you dont look like a geek
00:11 < i_c-Y> Barrett: what do you want to know about networking?
00:11 < Barrett> i_c-Y: so right now I have a VM set up on my server just NATed and it works just fine... but with a local IP address
00:11 < i_c-Y> ok
00:11 < Barrett> I have more external IP addresses from my datacenter, but they're on a different subnet
00:11 < Barrett> and I'd like to set up a bridged connection
00:12 < Barrett> and from my understanding, that doesn't work without some tweaking (if at all)
00:12 < Barrett> do you know what tweaking would need to be done? (I've googled)
00:12 < Barrett> ports_: mostly I just look kind of weird in that picture...
00:12 < i_c-Y> what are you running the vm in?
00:13 < Barrett> the host is fedora
00:13 < Barrett> (9)
00:13  * Dam\__ goes off to see about getting a dorm to himself.
00:13 < i_c-Y> i was looking for an answer more like virtualbox, vmware, ..
00:13 < Barrett> ah
00:13 < Barrett> vmware
00:13 < ports_> Barrett, its between you, me and nicolas for the most normal looking
00:14 < Barrett> look at my wrinkles...
00:14 < Barrett> but I do agree.. most of the people look very geeky/nerdy
00:15 < Barrett> not that that's a bad thing
00:15 < i_c-Y> Barrett: there shouldnt be a problem - the cofig options should be in vmware (they're pretty open in vmware's server products though i dont remember what they're called there)
00:15 < i_c-Y> pretty out in the open
00:16 < Barrett> i_c-Y: most of the documentation I find online is for previous versions of vmware... I'm using vmware 2, which is apparently somewhat different
00:16 < Barrett> but do you think that it being on a separate subnet shouldn't affect it?
00:17 < i_c-Y> should be fine.
00:19 < Barrett> hmm
00:19 < Barrett> my saleswoman doesn't know too much about what she sells (no offense, she's a really nice girl)
00:19  * Dam\__ mutters.
00:20 < i_c-Y> what's she selling, Barrett ?
00:20 < millinao> wtf, my friend apparently has like 4 naked pictures of people at my school
00:20 < Barrett> so in my contract I have a block of 16 IP addresses (which would give me 13 usable ones minus the network address, broadcast address, and gateway)... I was given a block of 4
00:20 < ports_> haha
00:20 < Barrett> (which is 1)
00:20 <+mtgrss111> that isn't surprising.
00:20 < Dam\__> Yay, just great, I'm stuck here.   :/
00:20 < Barrett> so I asked for a block of 16, so she gave me a block of 8 and a block of 4
00:20 < i_c-Y> ive seen atleast 4 girls naked on 4chan from my school.
00:21 < millinao> haha
00:21 < Barrett> so now I have 2 blocks of 4 which is 1 usable IP address each, and a block of 8 which is 5
00:22 < i_c-Y> do you live near your datacenter?
00:22 < Barrett> yes
00:23 < Barrett> like a 10 minute drive
00:23 <@Andy_J> don't ask for a block of 16
00:23 <@Andy_J> as for a /28
00:23 <@Andy_J> *ask
00:23 <@Andy_J> then when she doesn't know what that is she'll find someone who does
00:24 < Barrett> is it even possible to have /28? what would the subnet mask be?
00:25 < Barrett> apparently I don't even know :)
00:27 < i_c-Y> 255.255.255.240 is a /28
00:27 < Barrett> man, I always thought the /## was the number of IPs in the subnet
00:27 < Barrett> I would have put /16
00:29 < i_c-Y> better yet though
00:29 < i_c-Y> ask her to make you a sandwich
00:30 < Barrett> i_c-Y: so what's 255.255.255.248?
00:32 < Barrett> slash 29
00:32 < Barrett> got it
00:32 < Barrett> I'm so smart now
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00:33 <@efneTI92> [PhillipA] Success is a journey, not a destination.  So stop running.
00:33 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v PhillipA] by efneTI80
00:36 < Barrett> so it just means the number of 1s in the mask
00:36 <@Andy_J> yes
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00:46 <+mtgrss111> what's this? pinged mail regarding ticalc?
00:47 <@Nikky> ?
00:48 <+mtgrss111> oh wow, it's from that dude who's terrible project i reviewed.
00:49 <@Nikky> Haha
00:49 <@Nikky> Sweet
00:49 <@Nikky> ticalc is lame
00:49 <+mtgrss111> he apologized for his terrible project o_O
00:49 <+mtgrss111> and he has "updated the file with alot less arrogance" XD
00:50 <+mtgrss111> to fix my qualms with his README, see? ;)
00:50 <@Nikky> ooo
00:50 <@Nikky> the update is in the queue
00:50  * Nikky ignores
00:51 <+mtgrss111> I don't think it matters either way. the screenshots will turn people off way before the readme will.
00:51 < millinao> we want to get him in here
00:51 < millinao> we want his brilliance
00:51 <@Nikky> K, the new one is updated and live
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00:52 <@Nikky> hi Melichoir 
00:52 < Melichoir> hi nikky
00:52 <+mtgrss111> I say we get like a bunch of people to submit reviews for it :P
00:52 <+mtgrss111> so he feels like he has to apologize to everyone.
00:52 < Melichoir> is this chnnel for or against the trusted computing platform alliance?
00:52 <@Andy_J> Indifferent.
00:53 < Melichoir> indifferent isn't a viable position
00:53 <+mtgrss111> Ignorant
00:53 < Melichoir> black or white there is no grey!
00:53 <+mtgrss111> Ignorance is a very viable position!
00:53 < Melichoir> well I didn't contest ignorance, just indifference
00:54 <@Nikky> We're actually against the trusted computing platform alliance, but that's not why we're around.
00:54 < Melichoir> you know why puppies die every day?
00:54 < Melichoir> indifference...
00:54 <@Nikky> We're the TI Claculator Programming Alliance. :)
00:54 <@Nikky> Or was...
00:54 < Melichoir> oh super I used to do that on my 83+
00:54 < Melichoir> nothing fancy
00:55 < millinao> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trusted_Computing_Platform_Alliance
00:55 < millinao> hrm i never heard of that before
00:55 < Melichoir> ignorance is how they're going to win
00:56 <@Andy_J> !seen bsparks
00:56 <@efneTI86> I found 4 matches to your query (sorted): zeropod zeropod_ Zeromus bsparks. zeropod (~zeropod@fiber-64.201.86.25.lhtot.com) was last seen quitting from #tcpa 8 hours, 34 minutes ago stating (brbbl).
00:59 <@Nikky> Asswhores
01:02 <+mtgrss111> i seem to be advocating ignorance alot recently, even the religious debate on cemetech.
01:04 < Melichoir> well mtgrss111... you just want to make people happy?
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01:09 < Tari> hmm
01:09 < Tari> this project calls for $28 worth of LEDs
01:09 < Tari> maybe I should start with a scaled down version
01:09 <@Nikky> get twice as many
01:09 < ticalcnoa> wow that alot of leds
01:09 < ports_> wow
01:10 < i_c-Y> Tari: how many led's is that?
01:10 < ports_> is that a lot of LEDs?
01:10 < ports_> arent they like $1-2/piece
01:10 < Tari> 120, i_c-Y 
01:10 <+mtgrss111> yeah, something like that, Melichoir
01:10 < Tari> I wonder if other colors might be cheaper
01:10 < ticalcnoa> like magenta?
01:11 < ports_> you dont have to give them ideas
01:12 < i_c-Y> 120 led's arent 28 dollars , Tari 
01:12 < Tari> I priced it out
01:12 < i_c-Y> atleast not if you're going with all green, yellow or red ones
01:12 < Tari> that was blue ones
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01:14 < i_c-Y> Tari: looks like you need to buy some off ebay :)
01:14 < Tari> possibly
01:14 < ticalcnoa> what are you even making?
01:14 < Tari> a dot-matrix display
01:14 < Tari> 24*5
01:14 < i_c-Y> http://cgi.ebay.com/Lot-of-50-X-5mm-Blue-LED-5000mcd-Free-Resistors_W0QQitemZ220355957209QQcmdZViewItemQQptZBI_Electronic_Components?hash=item220355957209&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50 for example
01:14 < i_c-Y> why dont you just buy a dot matrix display?
01:14 < Tari> it's more fun to build one
01:15 < Tari> it's also an easy first project
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01:15 < Tari> given I haven't done any embedded projects before
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01:35 <@efneTI92> [TheStorm] Yes rivereye, it is time to go fishing.
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01:59 < millinao> you're boring tcpa
02:00 < ticalcnoa> what do you expect were a group of calc nerds lol
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02:02 < millinao> we never hear about exploding psp batteries or anything
02:03 < TheStorm> is 4gb of ram at 1066mhz better than 8@800Mhz?
02:04 < TheStorm> IE which do you think I'd get better perforamce out of
02:04 < Tari> depends
02:05 < Tari> 4 at 1066 would technically be faster
02:05 < Tari> but if you fill up 4, it's well worth having 8 instead
02:06 < ports_> TheStorm, doesnt matter
02:06 < ports_> youre probably not going to stress your system enough to find the difference
02:07 < TheStorm> Ok cool then I'll stick to 8GB then :P
02:07 < TheStorm> also my tunner and heatsink came today so I get to install those this weekend
02:09 <+mtgrss111> i heard a hilarious story on the trip back from rugby recently
02:10 <+mtgrss111> one of my buds looked ou tthe window and exclaimed "hey look! a thirty-five ounce!"
02:10 <+mtgrss111> he was pointing at a Nissan 350Z
02:11 <+mtgrss111> seriously, a 35 oz. o_O
02:12 <+mtgrss111> he isn't gonna live that down among us for weeks
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03:01 <@efneTI92> [Ham\__] Narf!
03:01 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Ham\__] by SnowCrash
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03:07 < ticalcnoa> Omnimaga stinks
03:08 <+Ham\__> what happened?
03:08 < ticalcnoa> I got banned
03:09 < i_c-Y> Ham\__ is an ircop on furryfire
03:09 < i_c-Y> ask him to unban you
03:09 < ticalcnoa> no on the website
03:10 <+Ham\__> I'm admin on the site too
03:11 < ticalcnoa> now when I log in I get this
03:11 < ticalcnoa> Sorry noahbaby94, you are banned from using this forum!
03:11 < ticalcnoa> It seems by your hate comments towards me on Revsoft that you are betraying me and that you are taking DarkSunDS side. I don't want troublemakers in the TI community but since you promote darksunds troublemaking I don't think you belong to Omnim
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03:13 < Speler> Heylo
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03:19 <+Ham\__> Hello.
03:19 <+mtgrss111> >__>
03:19 <+Ham\__> <__<
03:20 < Barrett> gah.
03:20 < Barrett> why does bridging not work??
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03:21 <+Ham\__> on Windows?
03:21 < Barrett> fedora
03:21 < Barrett> to a guest vm
03:21 <+Ham\__> idk.
03:21 < i_c-Y> are you having firewallisues?
03:21 < Barrett> i_c-Y: NAT works just fine (I can connect to and from it)... bridged I can't even ping
03:21 < Barrett> it says it's connected, but nothing happens
03:22 < Barrett> in fact, packets go out without any error
03:22 < Barrett> but I never get any packets in
03:23 < Barrett> if my datacenter hasn't set me up with these IPs I'll be angry
03:23 < Barrett> but I doubt that's the problem
03:24 < Barrett> I could go in and set the host server up with one of these new IPs but that'd create downtime for CG
03:25 < Barrett> now this is interesting... vmnet1 (which I believe is for bridged networks) also shows TX packets... but 0 bytes transfered
03:25 < Barrett> and 0 RX
03:26 < Ox40> halo . http://youtube.com/watch?v=u_aY7HZvFpQ
03:27 < Barrett> but the TX packets don't coincide with the TX packets from the guest
03:31 < Barrett> is there a way to figure out what on earth I'm connected to?
03:32 < Barrett> like... the IP address of the device that apparently allowed me to "connect"
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03:36 < Barrett> ok... so vmnet0 is the bridge
03:36 < Barrett> is it not supposed to show up in ifconfig on the host?
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03:40 < Barrett> Merth
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03:40 < Barrett> here?
03:40 < Barrett> Merth
03:40 < Barrett> Merthsoft
03:40 < Merthsoft> hi
03:40 < Barrett> server 9999 is back to 100%
03:40 < Merthsoft> oh noes
03:42 < Ox40> http://youtube.com/watch?v=9mSKBgvHdoE <= HOLY cow... Its great and awful at the same time.
03:57 < Merthsoft> woo
03:57 < Merthsoft> looks like i get $444 in federal tax return
03:58 < Tari> that's more than 4 times what I'm getting!
03:58 < Tari> but yay for you
03:58 < Merthsoft> i dunno about state yet
03:59 < Tari> I'm getting $13 state
03:59 < Merthsoft> i haven't gotten my forms yet
04:01 < Ox40> Merth: Im getting $1,200 fed, $300 state
04:01 < Merthsoft> cool
04:02 < Ox40> need it NAO
04:03 < Ox40> LMAO "Chad Vader - Day Manager"
04:19 <@_Auron_> mm going on a road trip this weekend for work
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04:29 <+mtgrss111> Well, I'm tired. I'm not going to stay up so late this time. seeya
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04:42 < Ox40> meh
04:51 < sir_lewk> I just saw "The Mist"
04:51 < sir_lewk> pretty superb movie :)
04:52 < sir_lewk> totally lived up to the stephen king short story
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05:07 < Ox40> gawd, they really like to PM on freenode
05:08 < Ox40> Anyone want a mt.dew while im up?
05:12 < glk> I want one
05:12 < glk> dcc it
05:15 < Ox40> :P
05:15 < sir_lewk> yeah, dcc me one too :)
05:15 < glk> http://grahamkendall.net/  much ti-89 data
05:16 < Merthsoft> glk: I have a ti-89!
05:16 < Ox40> well, mt.dew is on the way
05:16 < Ox40> idk bout your firewalls tho
05:16 < glk> try Math for the data
05:16 < glk> Start with ti-89 lessons
05:18 < glk> What is your area of interest?
05:18 < Merthsoft> programming
05:19 < glk> I am a retired physicist
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05:29 <@_Auron_> GOOSH GOOSH
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06:06 <@Nikky> Hi :)
06:07 <@Nikky> So chronomex invited me to a thing, and neglected to say that you are supposed to bring an internet onnectecd device
06:07 <@Nikky> so I'mstuck on an olpc... super fun finding a command line
06:07 <@chronomex> haha, olpc
06:07 <@Nikky> If I were a stving acrifan kid, I'd use this to bludgen food
06:07 <@chronomex> Sugar
06:08 <@Nikky> since this GUI sucks complte ass
06:08 <@chronomex> you're racist
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06:08 <@Nikky> It's true
06:08 <@Nikky> asswipe
06:08  * chronomex wipes ass with Nikky
06:09 <@Nikky> :(
06:09 <@Nikky> You're far away though
06:09 -!- Hunterkll [~Hunterkll@68-25-30-89.pools.spcsdns.net] has joined #tcpa
06:09 <@Nikky> Meanoe
06:09 <@Nikky> Go away Hunterkll 
06:09 < Milyardo> yeah
06:09 < Hunterkll> NO.
06:09 <@Nikky> GO
06:09 < Milyardo> YES
06:09 <@Nikky> GTFO BTARD
06:09 < Milyardo> OH GOD YES
06:09 < Dam\__> MAYBE
06:09 < Hunterkll> btard?
06:10 < Milyardo> /b/tard
06:10 <@Nikky> Yes, that's you.
06:10 < Hunterkll> really?
06:10 <@Nikky> SUck it
06:10 < Hunterkll> because I visit any chan website. :/
06:10 <@Nikky> You run one
06:10 <@Nikky> asswipe
06:10 < Hunterkll> not really
06:10 <@Nikky> don'tlike to be gustav!
06:10 < Hunterkll> if you count a chan domain name with a site that's been hacked and down since october of last year 
06:10 <@Nikky> I KNOW YOURE SA FREAKING MAC USER
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06:11 < Hunterkll> Nikky, i'm running windows on a dell right now
06:11 <@Nikky> Don't care. Liar.
06:11 < Hunterkll> ...
06:11 <@Nikky> Hi tr1p1ea :)
06:11 < Ox40> calling all mod_rewrites
06:11 < Dam\__> Will the real asswipe please stand up?
06:11 <@Nikky> Shut up Ox40 
06:11  * Nikky hauls Ox40 up
06:11 < tr1p1ea> heya
06:11 <+Ham\__> Dam\__, * Ox40 stands up
06:12 <@Nikky> Hey Ham\__ :)
06:12 < Ox40> DEAR GOD Ham\__.
06:12 <+Ham\__> heya
06:12 < Ox40> what did you learn?
06:12 <@chronomex> weren't we going to ban Ham\__ ?
06:12 < Ox40> GAH you guys are both active too!
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06:12 <@Nikky> No
06:12 <@chronomex> no?
06:12 < Milyardo> I learned that PERL is awesome
06:12 < Ox40> yes.
06:12 <+Ham\__> no?
06:12 <@Nikky> I decided there's no erason to
06:12 <@Nikky> Similar nicks is not a crime
06:12 <@chronomex> but I thought we ban on asshattery
06:12 < Ox40> Nikky: Dam and Ham are too close...
06:12 < Ox40> its distracting and confusing...
06:12 <@Nikky> So we ban Ox40 then?
06:12 <+Ham\__> chronomex, then ban Ox40.
06:12 < Dam\__> Dam[n] ham.
06:12 <@efneTI86> what are you callingconfusing?\
06:12 < Ox40> Nikky: no... just make the non-original change his nick...
06:13  * chronomex considers +b *!*@*
06:13 <+Ham\__> lol
06:13 <@chronomex> I wonder what the bots would do then
06:13 <@efneTI86> :(
06:13 <+Ham\__> I bet the bots would freak
06:13 <@Nikky> Nothing
06:13  * Ox40 pokes efneTI86
06:13 <@Nikky> They won't ban another bot
06:13 <@chronomex> o
06:13 < Ox40> so, bot takeover :P
06:13 <@chronomex> dam
06:13 <@Nikky> Or ban legal ops
06:13 < Milyardo> They wouldn't ban me either
06:13 < Milyardo> I am one of them
06:14 < Ox40> lol
06:15 <@Nikky> Yes you are Milyardo 
06:15 <+Ham\__> Milyardo, you're a bot?! Tell us your secrets!
06:16 < Milyardo> What secrets O.o
06:16 <+Ham\__> what's 2+2?
06:16 <@Nikky> 22
06:16 < Milyardo> 22
06:17 <+Ham\__> 10
06:17 <@Nikky> I love you Milyardo 
06:17 <+Ham\__> IN BASE 4, I'M FINE!
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06:17 <+Ham\__> I played through portal earlier today. :D
06:17 < Milyardo> I love efneTI86, but he's having affiar with efneTI89
06:17 <@_Auron_> first time o.O
06:17 <+Ham\__> _Auron_, lol, no.
06:17 <@_Auron_> good
06:18 <@_Auron_>  _
06:18 <@_Auron_> |♥|
06:18 <+Ham\__> I can beat it all in about 30 minutes now
06:18 <@Nikky> *kisses*
06:18 <@Nikky> Ham\__: Nice!
06:21 < Dam\__> Ha.  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_eFviBJR-E)
06:22 <@_Auron_> I prefer this (watched it at work in the office before we drove to dallas): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uJdy43oyRw
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06:24 <@Nikky> No flash :(
06:25 < Dam\__> Nikky:   "Free YouTube?"
06:25 <@Nikky> yes
06:26 <@Nikky> *licks*
06:27 < _Digital> http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/938/938789/halo-wars-20081216105655825.jpg
06:27 < _Digital> http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/938/938789/halo-wars-20081216105708981.jpg
06:27  * _Digital want
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06:28 < tr1p1ea> lol
06:28 < tr1p1ea> 360
06:29 <+Ham\__> bleh
06:29 <@Nikky> lol
06:29 <@Nikky> \
06:29 < tr1p1ea> i love nextgen graphics
06:29 < tr1p1ea> i guess in the future everything is made from shiny plastic, even the trees
06:29 <+Ham\__> bleh @ halo, not the 360.
06:29 <@Nikky> I love halo
06:30 <@Nikky> what a great game
06:30 < tr1p1ea> it was ok, but really short
06:30 <+Ham\__> meh
06:30 < tr1p1ea> but its a casual shooter, so meh
06:30 < _Digital> my sarcasm meter just broke from being overloaded by Nikky
06:30 <@Nikky> Father my chi;dren
06:30 <+Ham\__> only time I had fun was playing with my brother in coop
06:31 < tr1p1ea> _Digital: impossible
06:31 < tr1p1ea> Nikky invented it
06:31 <+Ham\__> he perfected it, then broke it, too.
06:31 <@_Auron_> either halo wars will get people into RTS games or it'll flop because most halo-tards are unable to get into anything complicated
06:31 < tr1p1ea> just leaving room for the next model
06:31 <@Nikky> I love your nnew nick ham
06:31 <+Ham\__> Thank you. :)
06:31 < _Digital> _Auron_, yeah I agree
06:31 <+Ham\__> _Auron_, they'd have to make it pretty dumbed down for the former.
06:32 <+Ham\__> like, "Select which enemy to direct the computer to attack" stupid.
06:33 <@_Auron_> as RTS games tend to be more involved than a point-and-shoot intent
06:33 <+Ham\__> yea
06:33 <+Ham\__> but their target audience doesn't care for that complexity
06:33 < _Digital> most of them, not all of them
06:33 <+Ham\__> but, hey, maybe there won't be any squeeky 6 year olds on the mics.
06:34 <@Nikky> Supreme commander is the best RTS ever
06:34 <+Ham\__> I havn't played it
06:35 <+Ham\__> I always found RTS's to be boring
06:35 <+Ham\__> too slow, most of the time.
06:35 <+Ham\__> you get like 5 minutes of action for every 10 minutes of building up a bigass army
06:35 <@Nikky> Diaf
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06:35 <+Ham\__> k
06:35  * Ham\__ burns
06:36 <+Ham\__> *The scent of burned pork fills the room you're in.*
06:36 <+Ham\__> ... zork was a good game.
06:37 <@Nikky> Yes it was
06:37 <+Ham\__> I should go download it
06:37 < millinao> DO IT
06:37 <+Ham\__> it should be freeware by now
06:37 <@Nikky> Doooooo ittttt
06:37 <+Ham\__> er, abandonware
06:37 <@Nikky> pirate
06:38 <@Nikky> pirate
06:38 <@Nikky> pirate
06:38 <@Nikky> pirate
06:38 <+Ham\__> http://www.csd.uwo.ca/Infocom/download.html
06:38 <@Nikky> pirate
06:38 < millinao> does anyone know where i can download a zcode version
06:38 <+Ham\__> no diea.
06:38 <+Ham\__> idea*
06:38 <@Nikky> Commie
06:39 <+Ham\__> don't make me flood the channel with an ascii hammer and sickle.
06:39 < millinao> i like the hammer and sickle
06:39 < millinao> it's a cool picture
06:39 <+Ham\__> I got one that's all colored and stuff
06:40 <@Nikky> Nazi
06:40 <+Ham\__> HEIL
06:40 <@Nikky> Sick
06:41 <+Ham\__> You know what it means, therefore you're a nazi too.
06:41 <@Nikky> False.
06:41 < millinao> there is some bona fide antisemitism within my classmates
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06:41 < millinao> it's really really disturbing
06:42 <@Nikky> scary
06:42 <@Nikky> in Portland?
06:42 <+Ham\__> >kill self with leaflet
06:42 <+Ham\__> Suicide is not the answer.
06:42 <+Ham\__> <3 zork
06:42 < Hunterkll> ha
06:42 < Hunterkll> Zork much
06:42 < Hunterkll> lol
06:43 <@Nikky> Shush
06:43 <@Nikky> Deserter
06:43 < millinao> in my schools
06:43 < millinao> 14 year old kids
06:44 < millinao> saying "well that's probably why you don't like her"
06:45 <+Ham\__> dude
06:45 <+Ham\__> they're 14
06:45 <+Ham\__> they don't know what they like or hate
06:45 <@Nikky> ^
06:45 < millinao> maybe i'm thinking too much of them
06:46 <+Ham\__> their 'opinions' are probabally based off of some stupid movie that calls someone a jew.
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06:47 < tr1p1ea> http://hackaday.com/2009/02/04/mobius-circuit/
06:47 < tr1p1ea> clever
06:48  * Ham\__ wonders if he can get a belt holder for his laptop
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06:57 < Ox40> haha
06:57 <@Nikky> ?
06:57 <@Nikky> shutup
06:58 < Ox40> I want one of those :P
06:58 <@Nikky> Nerd.
06:58 <@Nikky> Diaf
06:59 <@Nikky> Whore
07:02  * Ox40 snuggles Nikky
07:02 <@Nikky> Yay
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07:09 < Ox40> :)
07:09 <@Nikky> diaf
07:09 < Ox40> Dont Initiate An aFfair?
07:09 < Ox40> I wont
07:09 < Ox40> dont worry
07:09 <@Nikky> die in an fire
07:09 < Ox40> its just you and me :)
07:10 < Ox40> Destroy Intentionally A Furry?
07:10 <@Nikky> Yuck
07:27 <+obnauticu> furry?! Where?!?!
07:27  * Ox40 points at Ham\__
07:27 <+obnauticu> :D
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07:29 < _Digital> sam I am?
07:29 < _Digital> how about green eggs and ham?
07:29  * Sam\__ does not like green eggs and ham
07:30 < Sam\__> CHOCOLATE RAINNNN!!!!!
07:30 <@chronomex> ....
07:30 <@chronomex> you too?
07:30 < Sam\__> ??
07:34 < Sam\__> lmfao http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6dUCOS1bM0&NR=1
07:38 < _Digital> so rain and thunderstorms are coming this way
07:39 < _Digital> think I need to send in my camera for another sensors cleaning tomorrow and then setup for some lightning shooting
07:39  * _Digital pats UPS
07:44 <+obnauticu> chocolate rain?
07:44 <+obnauticu> i love that shit
07:45 < Sam\__> did you like mine?
07:45 < _Digital> that is precisely what it is
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07:51 < Sam\__> BLAH
07:51 < Sam\__> nikky died but impoll did not
07:51 < Sam\__> BLAH
08:00 < tr1p1ea> thats because the poll for nikky to die was *from* impoll
08:05 <+Tyler2> I smell memory leaks of vast proportion in FX 2.1B2
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08:15 < Dam\__> People need to learn how to friggin' slow down.  And people need to learn to not try to haul ass across the street in the middle of traffic, especially when you've got children with you.
08:16 < Dam\__> (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b90_1233697170)
08:16 <@chronomex> who, and why?
08:16 <@chronomex> oh
08:16 <@chronomex> well duh
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09:02 < _Digital> is there anything faster than urandom?
09:04 <@chronomex> zero
09:05 < _Digital> I've reformatted this partition many many times
09:05 < _Digital> just want to do it nice and safe at least once
09:05 < _Digital> 9MB/sec is good though
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10:03 < incubus> ..
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10:12 <@efneTI92> [leofox] All we do in hell is play DDR!
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12:27 <@E-J> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,488348,00.html
12:29 <@E-J> http://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/7rxyh/collection_of_totally_offensive_jokes_not_for_the/
12:47 <@benryves> Those crazy philanthropists :) 'lo E-J
12:47 <@E-J> hello ben
12:47 <@benryves> (Cue jokes about releasing bugs)
12:47 <@E-J> http://www.yangsky.com/researches/physicallinguistics/PLUnderstand/humanbody/anus/anus.htm
12:48 <@E-J> last one might be nsfw
12:48 <@benryves> You think? :P
12:49 <@E-J> it depends :)
12:50 <@E-J> second one also, if you have taste for bad jokes and you laugh loud
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13:16 <@efneTI92> [zeropod] Look! It's Captain Sarcasm, Master of the Universe!
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14:11 <+jd19> hello
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14:38 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Ham\__] by efneTI80
14:40 <@efneTI92> [Ham\__] Narf!
14:46 <+jd19> hello ham
14:48 <@benryves> Heya jd19
14:50 < sir_lewk> hey #tcpa!
14:50 <@benryves> Hi sir_lewk
14:50 <@Andy_J> hi guys
14:50 <@benryves> And hello, Andy_J. ;)
14:51 <@Andy_J> alrams?
14:54 <@benryves> Sure, why not?
15:01 <@Andy_J> now that I've found decent descriptions of how to use .net's component licensing stuff (srsly, MSDN sucks ass), it's pretty neat.
15:01 <@Andy_J> trying to attack it right now ;)
15:02 <@benryves> Heh, I suppose they could have done better than "it's the same as COM".
15:02 <@benryves> MSDN is - usually - excellent, but there are a few gaps. Silverlight documentation is rather thin on the ground (the best stuff being on developer blogs). :(
15:05 <@benryves> Probably doesn't help that Silverlight is a crippled WPF, so you find plenty of useful WPF stuff that doesn't work in Silverlight due to missing or broken features.
15:06 <@Andy_J> why won't windows media player's toolbar go into any toolbar other than the taskbar -_-
15:06 <@Andy_J> I want it in one at the top of the screen, dammit
15:07 <@benryves> How about http://customize.org/wmp/skins/39510 ?
15:08 <@Andy_J> why should I need to add anything when it should just work out of the box?
15:08 <@Andy_J> why have itself listed there if it won't work?
15:09 <@benryves> Huh?
15:10 <@benryves> Oh, you made a custom toolbar at the top of the screen then tried to add WMP to it?
15:10 <@Andy_J> yes
15:11 <@Andy_J> (way to ninja me uploading a screenshot)
15:12 <@Andy_J> or is it fixed in wmp 10 or 11?
15:12 <@benryves> Nope, 11 still only goes into the regular taskbar, not a custom toolbar.
15:12 <@Andy_J> stupid wmp.
15:13 <@Andy_J> I should just use media player classic since it has a minimize to tray [sic] option
15:13 < sir_lewk> I've been thinking of doing away with my minimize buttons entirely, I never use them
15:14 < sir_lewk> I just toss stuff onto other desktops
15:14 <@benryves> Andy_J: There are third-party tools to force any app to "minimize to tray" [sic] ;)
15:14 <@Andy_J> then again I have enough notification icons already
15:15 <@benryves> It looks like the Language bar only works in the regular toolbar as it's missing from the "Toolbars" context menu item.
15:15 <@Andy_J> The language bar showed up and worked in the other bar for me.
15:15 <@benryves> Maybe that's Vista thing, then.
15:15 <@Andy_J> xp sp3 here.
15:15 <@Andy_J> outlook, webroot(r) client, pageant, wifi, lan, dell shit, "intellisonic speech enhancement", wifi manager, volume, remove hardware, power, nvidia
15:16 <@benryves> Wot, no Opera? :)
15:16 <@Andy_J> eh.
15:16 < sir_lewk> oooh noooooooo mr bill!
15:16 <@Andy_J> I could put it on this box but they put firefox on it
15:16 <@Andy_J> so I'm dealing with it
15:16  * Andy_J goes back to figuring out how to leave his stuff on his desk
15:17 < sir_lewk> I use firefox for flash and screenshoting (my default browser has a custom color scheme).  that's it
15:18 <@benryves> Mm, I use Firefox for testing websites.
15:18 <@benryves> Though if a website works in IE 6 and Opera chances are it'll work on everything inbetween too. :P
15:20  * benryves grumbles at native code. :(
15:21 < sir_lewk> oh?
15:22 <@benryves> Yep, it's a .NET app that uses an unmanaged 32-bit DLL, so keels over on 64-bit Windows. Guess I'll have to force the .NET app to report itself as x86. :\
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15:23 < sir_lewk> weird
15:23 < sir_lewk> sup Merth_?
15:25 <@benryves> sir_lewk: The .NET app is currently marked "any CPU", so I guess it's running as a 64-bit app on 64-bit Windows. It then keels over when it tries to talk to the 32-bit DLL. ScintillaNet is a weird hybrid of managed/unmanaged code. :(
15:27 < sir_lewk> "any CPU" lol :)
15:27 < sir_lewk> I'd like to see it run on a sparc ;P
15:27 <@benryves> sir_lewk: Eh, it would run fine.
15:28 < sir_lewk> really?
15:28 < sir_lewk> is there any .net stuff for sparcs?
15:28 <@benryves> Remembering that a .NET app is CIL, not assembly.
15:28 < sir_lewk> right, but is there any build in existance?
15:28 <@benryves> http://www.mono-project.com/Mono:SPARC
15:28 < sir_lewk> ah, hmm
15:29 < Merth_> benryves: if i've got a winform app, would i be able to compile it with mono on, say, ubuntu, and it'd work right?
15:29 < sir_lewk> very well then, I'd like to see that run on my z80 ti-83+! :P
15:29 <@benryves> Merth_: You wouldn't even need to recompile it.
15:29 < Merth_> O_O
15:29 < Merth_> oh?
15:30 <@Andy_J> that's the point of .net
15:30 <@benryves> As above, it's just CIL. It'll run fine on Linux.
15:30 <@Andy_J> to be like java
15:30 < sir_lewk> presuming mono supports all of .net it's using
15:30 < Merth_> sweet
15:30 <@benryves> IMO System.Windows.Forms was the wrong namespace, though, as it's highly MS Windows specific.
15:30 <@benryves> Should have been Microsoft.Windows.Forms :\
15:30 < sir_lewk> well of course
15:30 < Merth_> but it works?
15:30 <@Andy_J> benryves: well of course they aren't going to explicitly help it run on anything else, so why should it make sense?
15:31 <@benryves> Merth_: Mono emulates things like the Windows message loop so it should mostly work.
15:31 < Merth_> sweet
15:31 <@benryves> Andy_J: By that logic it should be System.DirectX, then? :P
15:31 <@benryves> Or System.Xna, since MS killed off Managed DirectX. (In both cases it's in the Microsoft namespace).
15:32 < sir_lewk> hmm, mono is smaller than I expected
15:32 <@benryves> Merth_: Run your assemblies through http://www.mono-project.com/MoMA first, though. If you wish to support Linux I recommend using Gtk# or similar instead, though.
15:32 < sir_lewk> only 18MB for mono-core and it's deps in Fedora
15:33 < sir_lewk> .net doesn't have generic guis stuff like swing?
15:33 < Merth_> but then it doesn't have the pretty little graphics designer
15:33 <@Andy_J> but it would actually work on non-MS runtimes :p
15:33 <@benryves> Merth_: There are more obvious pitfalls to avoid, eg don't hardcode \ in file paths (use Path.Combine to build up paths instead), use Environment.NewLine instead of "\r\n" &c
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15:34 < sir_lewk> ya know, Sun does a pretty damn good job of treating all platforms as equals, that's one of the reasons it's so popular ;)
15:35 < sir_lewk> does anyone have some simple .net-y thing for me to test out with mono?
15:35 <@benryves> sir_lewk: WPF is not tied to the Windows way of doing things, so I can imagine that would be a better bet - even if it stands for Windows Presentation Foundation. It is quite a new feature (.NET 3.0) though, so no idea how well that works in Mono.
15:35 < sir_lewk> hmm, gotcha
15:36 <@benryves> Are you after a WinForms app?
15:37 < sir_lewk> dunno
15:37 <@benryves> I've got command-line apps that I know run on Linux. Most of my WinForms stuff relies on Windows-specific hackery, though.
15:37 < sir_lewk> just anything that would give me an indication that this is working I guess
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15:37 < sir_lewk> that's work
15:37 < sir_lewk> *that'd
15:37 <@benryves> http://www.benryves.com/bin/bbcbasic/download/latest.php
15:38 < Merthsoft> oh no
15:38 < Merthsoft> the flashing doesin't work in mono :/
15:38 <@benryves> The "BBC BASIC File Converter" directory contains a command-line converter utility.
15:38 <@benryves> Merthsoft: Well, indeed not - it explicitly calls the Windows API :(
15:39 < Merthsoft> so will it crash under linux, just not work, or just say "eh, i'll ignore it"
15:39 <@benryves> I'm going to go with the former.
15:39 < Merthsoft> well damn
15:39 < sir_lewk> "Nothing to do." is mono giving me that error, or the program?
15:40 <@benryves> The program.
15:40 < sir_lewk> cool :)
15:40 <@benryves> You need to do something like -load <filename> -save <filename>
15:40 < sir_lewk> gotcha
15:40 < sir_lewk> lol, I gave the .exe executable privileges and tried to run it
15:40 < sir_lewk> "install the Windows version of Mono to run .NET executables"
15:42 < sir_lewk> whatevs, that's pretty cool
15:42 <@benryves> Merthsoft: if (Environment.OSVersion.Platform == PlatformID.Win32NT || Environment.OSVersion.Platform == PlatformID.Win32Windows) Flash(); ?
15:43 < Merthsoft> which do mono do i dowload for fedora?
15:43 <@benryves> (I'm guessing it wouldn't actually keel over until you tried to call the P/Invoked function).
15:44 < Merthsoft> if i comment out [DLLImport] it freaks out when it loads (in windows)
15:44 <@benryves> Indeed, and it will throw up a warning when you try and compile.
15:45 <@benryves> I know buggerall about Fedora, but I'd follow the Red Hat instructions (yum)?
15:47 < Merthsoft> imma just wait till i get the ubuntu iso and try with that
15:47 < Merthsoft> honestly, i don't like linux that much
15:47 <@benryves> Meh, I'm indifferent. I just have no reason to use it. :P
15:48 < sir_lewk> "< Merthsoft> which do mono do i dowload for fedora?" I just did `yum install mono-core`
15:48 < Merthsoft> i see
15:48 < sir_lewk> seems to have worked
15:49 <@benryves> Unity is powered by Mono, which is pretty cool (using its static compilation features to write iPhone and Wii games in C#/IronPython).
15:50 <@benryves> Er, Boo, not IronPython.
15:50 < Merthsoft> dammit linux
15:50 < Merthsoft> apparently i'm not a super user on my own linux
15:50 <@benryves> Merthsoft: Funny how most people say the same thing about Vista. >_>
15:51 < Merthsoft> and i can't login as root
15:51 < Merthsoft> omg
15:51 < Merthsoft> :|
15:53 < Merthsoft> woo, i ssh'ed into root
15:53 < Merthsoft> aslkdhf;asdjkf
15:54 <@benryves> Having fun there, Merthsoft? :D
15:54 < Merthsoft> that's one word for it
15:54 <@benryves> Only time I used Mono was on Knoppix. :\
15:55 <@E-J> http://www.holytaco.com/2008/07/29/8-people-who-will-ruin-your-party/
15:55 < Merthsoft> i'm just using a vm
15:56 <@benryves> Same here, Virtual PC.
15:56 < Merthsoft> i have sun's vm or something
15:56 <@benryves> Heh, http://www.benryves.com/images/brass/brass_mono.png <- look at that hideous font rendering. :D
15:57 <@E-J> btw, happy runeberg's day, day when you can eat http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runeberg's_tart
15:57 < sir_lewk> lol, you forgot your root password Merthsoft?
15:58 < sir_lewk> ooh, very nice E-J
15:58 < Merthsoft> http://monoport.com/39320 :(
15:58 < Merthsoft> sir_lewk: clearly not since i ssh'ed as root
15:59 <@benryves> Merthsoft: That looks like a fairly harmless error.
15:59 < sir_lewk> ...how could you not su/login as root locally?
15:59 <@E-J> benryves: why us keyboard
15:59 < Merthsoft> but it wasn't coming up on windows
15:59 <@benryves> E-J: It didn't have a UK one available. I don't really go in for the Stars and Stripes normally.
15:59 <@E-J> sir_lewk: it's possible in other systems than ubuntu
16:00 <@benryves> Merthsoft: What are you trying to connect to?
16:00 < Merthsoft> sir_lewk: I dunno. i logged out as shaun, and went to login. typed root and the my password and it said it couldn't so something or other, like auth theuser or soething
16:00 < Merthsoft> benryves: um, a server?
16:00 < sir_lewk> weird
16:00 < Merthsoft> yeah, i know
16:00 < Merthsoft> :(
16:00 < sir_lewk> I always just 'su' to root
16:00 < Merthsoft> and "shaun" apparently doesn't have su ability
16:00 <@benryves> Merthsoft: What protocol and what address? :P
16:00 < sir_lewk> odd
16:01 < Merthsoft> TCP and v200.calcg.org:9999
16:02 < sir_lewk> clear
16:02 < sir_lewk> opps
16:02 <@benryves> Merthsoft: Paste your socket creation code somewhere?
16:04 < Merthsoft> http://monoport.com/39321
16:05 <@benryves> AddressFamily.Unspecified -> AddressFamily.InterNetwork
16:05 < Merthsoft> ok
16:05 <@benryves> (AddressFamily.InterNetwork == IPv4 to you and me).
16:05 <@E-J> hmm, didn't know that you can't have pommac outside nordic countries
16:06 < Merthsoft> yeah
16:07 < Merthsoft> same error
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16:08 <@benryves> Merthsoft: Can you connect normally? (Via a telnet client or something?)
16:08 <@benryves> Under Linux, that is.
16:09 < Merthsoft> oh uh, if i do that fuck up my server
16:10 < Merthsoft> ok, yeah, i did
16:13 < Merthsoft> but i gotta go now
16:13 < Merthsoft> bye
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16:17 < ports_> hey
16:17 <@benryves> 'lo ports_
16:17 < ports_> werd
16:19  * sir_lewk pops a cap in ports_'s ass
16:19 < ports_> wtf
16:19 < ports_> die
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16:24 < sir_lewk> sup Ox40Work
16:25 < Ox40Work> not much sir_lewk....
16:25 < Ox40Work> You?
16:27 <@benryves> E-J: Heh, they're threatening more snow on Friday. This can't end well. :P
16:28 <@E-J> yes it can, finland could invade britain :p
16:29 <@benryves> With your army of snow ploughs. :P
16:29 < i_c-Y> all you need is a snow storm
16:29 < i_c-Y> and britan freezes
16:29 < i_c-Y> and they're like we're bitches who cant take 20 cm of snow
16:30 < leofox> hmm if finland would invade britain
16:30 <@benryves> i_c-Y: Or, rather, we're not saps who'll waste the taxpayer's money on equipment to deal with snowfall that only occurs approximately once every 20 years.
16:30 < leofox> luckily our government doesnt think like tha tben
16:30 <@E-J> benryves: http://www.hs.fi/kuvat/iso_webkuva/1135242814121.jpeg
16:31 <@benryves> Hehe :D
16:31 < leofox> "why waste the taxpayers money to build dykes that resists floods that only happen once every 10 000 years?"
16:31 <@Andy_J> benryves: except we get that snowfall every year multiple times :)
16:31 <@benryves> Andy_J: And so should have the equipment to carry on as normal, right?
16:31 <@Andy_J> more or less
16:31 <@Andy_J> but people still don't know how to drive in it
16:32 <@Andy_J> the roads were worse today than yesterday
16:32 <@Andy_J> yeterday it was actively snowing
16:32 < leofox> ...
16:32 < leofox> your mom
16:32 <@Andy_J> today it was just so damn cold that the salt doesn't do anything
16:32 <@benryves> Up in the North of England business is carrying on as normal as they are used to and so have the resources to deal with heavier snowfall.
16:32 <@Andy_J> the highway I normally take was backing up onto the previous highway
16:33 <@Andy_J> and the other highway that I could take was *closed*
16:33 <@E-J> Andy_J: and goverment won't allow studded tyres because roads would suffer?
16:33 <@Andy_J> so it turned into a parking lot, and backed up onto the other highway too
16:33 < sir_lewk> supposedly it's supposed to get into the 50-60s F around here during the weekend :(
16:33 <@Andy_J> E-J: that and other reasons
16:33 <@Andy_J> you don't *need* them if you know how to drive
16:33 <@Andy_J> we might break freezing this weekend.
16:33 <@Andy_J> we're looking forward to it.
16:34 < sir_lewk> just floor the gas/brakes whenever you are on ice
16:34 < sir_lewk> that's how champs drive
16:34 < sir_lewk> make sure to turn the wheel while skidding too
16:34 <@E-J> well, if you know how to drive, but others don't, then i think everyone should use them :)
16:34 <+prime_> yea, i just have an on/off switch instead of two pedals
16:34 < sir_lewk> yeah, that is true
16:34 < sir_lewk> lol prime_
16:35 <@Andy_J> E-J: the roads get beat up enough with freeze/thaw cycles
16:35 <@Andy_J> studded tires would just make it 100x worse
16:35 < sir_lewk> if some fool crashes in front of you, then it doesn't matter if you normally would know to slow down ahead of time
16:35 <@Andy_J> it's cheaper to put up "rough road" signs than actually fix it, apparently
16:35 < sir_lewk> that's how 1 idiot driver causes crap like 10 car pileups
16:36 <+Tyler2> Meh, studded tires arn't worth it
16:36  * benryves goes to attempt to walk on the still ice-encrusted pavements.
16:36 <@Andy_J> be careful!
16:36 < sir_lewk> ya! D:
16:36 <+Tyler2> They are about as useful as ABS...
16:36 <@benryves> Heh, they still haven't cleared all the side-roads. :\
16:36 < sir_lewk> ABS is nice as hell
16:37 < sir_lewk> speaking as some who does not have it :(
16:38 <+Tyler2> Better than traction control though :P
16:38 <@E-J> Andy_J: this is how bad they get in finland http://users.tkk.fi/~jpaulin/pg/maantie.JPG
16:39 <@E-J> so it's not that worse
16:39 < sir_lewk> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-lock_braking_system#Risk_compensation <== that is the problem with ABS
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16:40 < sir_lewk> same thing as the idiot soccermom SUV driver who thinks they can do whatever they want because they have 4-wheel drive
16:40 <@Andy_J> SUVs are stupid
16:40 <+Tyler2> Exactly
16:40 < sir_lewk> indeed
16:40 <+kirsk> you only get to think that in a 60k+ rally car
16:41 <@Andy_J> if you get an off-roading vehicle, you drive it off the roads once in a while
16:41 < sir_lewk> yup
16:41 <@Andy_J> otherwise just get a van
16:41 < sir_lewk> people just get SUVs as more stylish minivans
16:41 <+kirsk> jup
16:41 < sir_lewk> then they drive them like sportscars
16:41 <@Andy_J> we really need to tax gas guzzlers more
16:42 < sir_lewk> mmmh, I disagree
16:42 < sir_lewk> they waste their money on gas
16:42 <@Andy_J> an inverse tax, the worse you are than EPA estimated 30 mpg highway, the more you get taxed
16:42 < sir_lewk> we should just tax women drivers >_>
16:42 <+kirsk> and tax people who brag about their 'tuned' <20k cars
16:42 < sir_lewk> Andy_J: that I could go with
16:42 <@Andy_J> >= 30 mpg gets a flat tax
16:42 < sir_lewk> mmhm
16:43 <@Andy_J> and then get rid of the breaks for hybrid vehicles
16:43 < sir_lewk> yup
16:43 <@Andy_J> since hybrid suvs will still be < 30 XD
16:43 < sir_lewk> exactly
16:43 <@Andy_J> why aren't we lawmakers
16:43 < sir_lewk> motorcycles whoop hybrids asses for mpg too
16:43 <+kirsk> 200% tax for douches with their $3000 car who brag about totally pwning someone at teh streetlights
16:44 <@Andy_J> I'll run for the house in 2 years when I'm old enough -_-
16:44 < sir_lewk> Andy_J: I think there is a "criminally insane" requirement :-/
16:44 < sir_lewk> kirsk: we should just take their licenses
16:44 <@E-J> my parents have suv (if hyundai tucson is one) but they have it mostly because road to our summer cottage is little tricky
16:44 <+kirsk> 300% taxes on people who 'drift' with their 10 year old honda civics
16:44 < sir_lewk> enough of this "cars are a right" bullshit. it's a priviledge to drive
16:45 <+kirsk> yes
16:45 <@benryves> sir_lewk: It would probably help if public transport was workable in the USA.
16:45 <@E-J> you can't drive to it's yard on winter without 4wd
16:45 < sir_lewk> benryves: very true
16:45 < i_c-Y> do you have tire chains and stuff too?
16:45 <@Andy_J> It's workable in some places
16:45 <@Andy_J> but not nearly enough
16:45 < sir_lewk> public transport will never get better if nobody needs it though
16:46 <+kirsk> people should try to work more locally
16:46 < sir_lewk> we should also ban cars in certain major cities like NYV
16:46 < sir_lewk> *NYC
16:46 <@E-J> i_c-Y: who do you ask?
16:46 <@benryves> sir_lewk: Not so much that as the low population density and distance between cities. :\
16:46 < i_c-Y> right. cause taxis are just so not useful for many people, sir_lewk 
16:46 < i_c-Y> E-J: you
16:46 < sir_lewk> yeah, that's really a problem
16:46 < sir_lewk> it's hard to scale something like public transit up in a country like the US
16:46 <@E-J> http://coolepochcountdown.com/
16:47 <@Andy_J> I 'can' go from Cleveland to Massillon on busses, but it isn't pretty.
16:47 < sir_lewk> even so, it used to be much better until the big auto companies lobbied that stuff out of existance
16:47 <@benryves> sir_lewk: I'm not sure if you have something similar, but here private vehicles have to pay a fine ("congestion charge") to drive in Central London.
16:47 <+kirsk> what would really make a difference is people being less lazy
16:47 < sir_lewk> hmm, not sure
16:47 <@Andy_J> Cleveland RTA, Akron Metro, and SARTA. And a fare for all of them.
16:47 <@E-J> i_c-Y: nope, studded tyres is all we need, we used to use tyre chains when we didn't have 4wd car
16:47 < sir_lewk> in most large cities the majority of people don't bother with cars, it's more of a hassle
16:48 <+kirsk> really?
16:48 < sir_lewk> mmhm
16:48 <@Andy_J> I don't know about 'most'
16:48 < sir_lewk> people living in city anyways
16:48 <+kirsk> most people here take the car into town 2 miles away
16:48 < sir_lewk> living in the suberbs but working in city is another story
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16:48 < sir_lewk> anyways, I can get to NYC from Philly with a few bucks on busses
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16:49 <@benryves> kirsk: I thought they liked bicycles in .nl?
16:49 < sir_lewk> like, <$20
16:49 <+kirsk> we do
16:49 <@E-J> kirsk: here you can see traffic jams same time when busses are full
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16:49 < sir_lewk> more like $5-10 if I take the chinatown bus :)
16:49 <+kirsk> a lot of people bike too
16:49 <@Andy_J> sir_lewk: lucky
16:50 <@benryves> sir_lewk: megabus are big here.
16:50 <@E-J> bus(s)es have their own lane so they don't stuck to traffic jams
16:50 <@Andy_J> the most we have is busses allowed on the shoulder on highways, and some 'no turn except busses' stuff
16:50 <@Andy_J> no dedicated lanes
16:50 <@benryves> Larger towns have dedicated bus lanes here.
16:50 <@Andy_J> cleveland has some electric trains though, which run between the opposing lanes of roads
16:51 <@Andy_J> but they have to stop at the cross roads too, depending on the traffic light
16:51 < sir_lewk> those are cool
16:51 < sir_lewk> philly has a shitty ass subway/light rail system
16:52 < sir_lewk> works well enough though, most places it doesn't go, you wouldn't *want* to go ;)
16:52 < sir_lewk> I wonder if that might be a feedback system though
16:53 < sir_lewk> septa doesn't expand into poor/bad neighborhoods, poor/bad neighborhoods get worse because nobody can work
16:54 <@E-J> i will have metro here at 2010 or so
16:55 <@E-J> now nearest station is 7km away
16:55 <@E-J> but buses work so no worries
16:56 < i_c-Y> theres a bus stop infront of where i live, a subway station a few blocks away
16:56 < i_c-Y> and some other stuff around.
16:57 < i_c-Y> like 4 subway stations near school, etc.
16:57 < i_c-Y> quite easy to drop out of sight
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17:01 <@E-J> i think i can go easily anywhere in capital area from 5 at morning to 2 at night
17:01 <@E-J> with public transport
17:02 <@E-J> so 3 hours for taxis
17:02 <+kirsk> http://www.barneysvideoresume.com/
17:02 <@E-J> but now to post office
17:04 < sir_lewk> http://i40.tinypic.com/11tqy52.jpg lolwat
17:04 < sir_lewk> (SFW, just....... odd.)
17:04 <+kirsk> NSFW NSFW
17:04 <+kirsk> : ((
17:05 < sir_lewk> lol
17:05 <+prime_> yea def nsfw
17:05 < sir_lewk> >_<
17:05 <+prime_> i mean i wouldnt want to see that at work..or ever
17:05 <@_Auron_> lol
17:05 <+prime_> especially not in the whihe house
17:05 <@_Auron_> there should be a transition from washington to obama, through all the presidents
17:05 <@_Auron_> that'd be hax
17:06 <+kirsk> nice
17:06 < sir_lewk> I would pay money to see that
17:06 <@E-J> _Auron_: that could be actually easy to make on something like flash
17:07 <@_Auron_> E-J: well I mean like the above picture
17:07 <@Nikky> I support our new socialist president
17:07 < i_c-Y> time for lunch i guess.
17:07 < sir_lewk> Nikky: I fear the spread of fascism
17:08 < sir_lewk> mmm, lunch here too
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17:15 <@efneTI92> [Netham45] Narf!
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17:19 < Ox40Work> Yay, im setting up a Prestashop testing environment!
17:19 < Ox40Work> http://shop.Ox40.us :)
17:20 < Ox40Work> er, http://store.Ox40.us
17:21 <@Nikky> What's that? It's the nobody cares phone.
17:21 <@Nikky> And the person on the line says it's for you, Ox40Work.
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17:35 < Ox40Work> !ban *Ham\__*!*@*
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17:35 < i_c-Y> heh.
17:36 -!- mode/#tcpa [-b *!*KevinK@*.static.fdul.wi.charter.com] by E-J
17:36 <+prime_> huh?
17:36 -!- Ox40Work [~KevinK@68-117-29-62.static.fdul.wi.charter.com] has joined #tcpa
17:36 < Ox40Work> Hey!
17:36 < Ox40Work> Good morning!
17:36 <+kirsk> hej
17:40 < i_c-Y> its afternoon here you insensitive clod
17:42 < leofox> it's evening you morn
17:42 < leofox> *moron
17:42 < sir_lewk> pffft
17:42 <@benryves> If in doubt, go with UTC. :P
17:42 < sir_lewk> 12:42 is hardly evening
17:42 < sir_lewk> :P
17:43 < leofox> 12:42? learn to read a clock, it's 18:42!
17:43 <@E-J> [19:43:05]  <leofox> 12:42? learn to read a clock, it's 18:42!
17:43 <@E-J> you are both wrong
17:43 < i_c-Y> its hammer time
17:43 <@benryves> 17:43 <E-J> [19:43:05] <leofox> 12:42? learn to read a clock, it's 18:42!
17:43 < Ox40Work> its 11:43
17:44 < Ox40Work> morning
17:44 < leofox> well actually it was 18:43:09 when i said that
17:44 < leofox> so E-J is 1 hour and 4 seconds off
17:44 < leofox> or 59 minutes and 56 seconds
17:44 < leofox> whatever is correct
17:44 < sir_lewk> "12:43 < leofox> 12:42? learn to read a clock, it's 18:42!" Silly billy
17:45 < leofox> why would it be 12:43 when it's dark outside?
17:45 < sir_lewk> hell if I know
17:45 < sir_lewk> you live in the artic circle?
17:45 <+kirsk> its 2009 actuall
17:45 <+kirsk> y
17:46 < sir_lewk> oh rally?
17:46 < sir_lewk> since when
17:46 <+kirsk> month ago
17:46 < sir_lewk> no way
17:46 < sir_lewk> people should tell me these things
17:47 < leofox> i thought it was 2552
17:47 <@E-J> sir_lewk: it's not dark all day in places norther than arctic circle, for example inari http://www.fmi.fi/weather/local.html?Keywords=&station=2726&param=4&map=1&place=Inari
17:47 <@E-J> but it's damn cold
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17:49 < sir_lewk> yeah
17:50 < sir_lewk> some places in alaska it's dark for a month or whatever
17:51 < sir_lewk> hmm, I've always wanted to stand on a geographic pole
17:56 <@E-J> iirc in northern finland it's same, in summer they have "73 days long day"
17:57 < sir_lewk> whoa, nice
17:57 < sir_lewk> I think I could get used to that really easily
17:57 <@E-J> in hear southern finland we only have something like 20 hours long day
17:58 <@E-J> here*
17:58 < sir_lewk> I guess society still goes by a 24 hour cycle in those situations?
17:58 <@E-J> yep
17:58 < sir_lewk> interesting
17:58 <@E-J> though they say that people have more depression in winter time
17:59 < sir_lewk> hmm, I can see that
17:59 < sir_lewk> I think that'd be fun to go on vacation or something to someplace like that though
17:59 <+kirsk> lack of sunlight -> vitamin d
17:59 < sir_lewk> sleep when you want, as long as you want, without day/night cycles interfering
17:59 <+prime_> i am depressed when E-J speaks
17:59 < sir_lewk> :/
17:59 <@E-J> prime_: good
17:59 < sir_lewk> why>
18:00 <+prime_> because everything is so boring
18:01 <@E-J> sir_lewk: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midnight_sun
18:01 <@E-J> prime_: you can always /ignore :)
18:02 < leofox> i always get depressed during summer
18:02 < leofox> I dont like sunlight
18:03 <+kirsk> sunshine rocks
18:03 < sir_lewk> that would be so cool
18:03 <+prime_> my hands almost freeze off in the winter when i type
18:03 < sir_lewk> I really like the cold, but lack of sun gets to me after a while
18:03 <+kirsk> extra rockage when around natural stuff rather than streets
18:04 < leofox> i can barely see anything when the sun shines
18:04 <+kirsk> summer allows for so many more chillax activities
18:04 <+kirsk> go outside more : )
18:04 < leofox> I do like it when it's warm
18:04 <+kirsk> i used to have to walk outside squinted all the time
18:04  * benryves seethes at that word.
18:04 <+prime_> kirsk: lay off the drugs then
18:05 <+kirsk> chillax or squinted?
18:05 <@benryves> kirsk: "chillax".
18:05 <+kirsk> : )
18:05 < sir_lewk> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polar_night that would get to me
18:05 <+prime_> benryves: chillax about it
18:05 < leofox> this seems cool
18:05 < leofox> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_nights
18:06 <+kirsk> that would be so awesome with an all night goa (beach)party
18:06 < sir_lewk> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a9/White_Nights.jpg that's an awesome picture
18:08 < leofox> it's like that over here too in the summer at 5AM or so
18:09 < leofox> thats fun if you stay up all night
18:09 < Ox40Work> hey kirsk
18:10 < Ox40Work> kirsk: why aren't you at work >:-|
18:15 < sir_lewk> he's too cool for... work
18:15 < Ox40Work> he's too sexay for ... his job
18:16 < Ox40Work> too sexy for his job.... too sexy for #tcpaaaa
18:17 < Ox40Work> chocolate RAIN. I burned my face now it not the sammmee..
18:17 < leofox> chocolate RAIN. Sorry but you just have lost the game
18:17 <+kirsk> because its 7:17 pm
18:17 <+kirsk> work is over
18:18 < sir_lewk> lazy socialist bum!  here in the states we work 24/7!
18:18 < Ox40Work> kirsk: did you really go to work?
18:18 <+kirsk> yes
18:18 < Ox40Work> leofox: lol look up chad vader chocolate rain
18:18 < Ox40Work> <3 <3 thanks kirsk
18:19 <@benryves> sir_lewk: The US has a rather different work ethic to Europe.
18:19 <+kirsk> also, i recieved a message stating my order has been sent to be delivered
18:19 <+kirsk> so i think ill have it monday
18:19 <+kirsk> woo
18:20 <@benryves> sir_lewk: Work to live, don't live to work. ;)
18:20 < sir_lewk> benryves: yeah, and it totally sucks >_<
18:20 <@benryves> Which, the European or US ethic?
18:20 < sir_lewk> US
18:20 < sir_lewk> living to work sucks
18:20 < sir_lewk> I have better things to do with my life than work
18:20 <@benryves> If you can make your work intersect with your personal interests, then go for it.
18:21 < sir_lewk> all those "working keeps me occupied" people are pathetic imho
18:21 < sir_lewk> yeah, true
18:21 <+kirsk> either that or find a balance
18:21 < sir_lewk> yeah, a balance would be good
18:21 < leofox> haha *I move my frontal vent away from the mic ro respirate*
18:22 < sir_lewk> not this work->eat->sleep grind crap in the US
18:22 <+kirsk> working just to have something to do is just silly unless your job is awesome like youre a navy seal or something
18:22 < sir_lewk> yeah
18:22 < sir_lewk> I need to figure out a way to become rich so I can do what I want, when I want ^_^
18:22 < Ox40Work> navy seals have awful jobs
18:22 < Ox40Work> im SURE
18:23 < sir_lewk> I'm pretty sure you couldn't become a navy seal unless you *really* wanted to though
18:23 <+kirsk> no kidding
18:23 < sir_lewk> sure it might not be superficially fun, but clearly those people are motivated to do what they do
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18:31 < Ox40Work> mmm pale chickssss ftw
18:31 < Ox40Work> <.<
18:31 < Ox40Work> >.> 
18:31 < Ox40Work> ^_
18:31 < Ox40Work> ^
18:32 < Ox40Work> <(^_^)<       <(^_^)>    >)^_^)>
18:32 <+kirsk> yes
18:32 < i_c-Y> !k Ox40Work flood
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18:32 <@E-J> sir_lewk: on the other hand those people wouldn't understand why someone wants to be whole work time inside 4 walls and look some computer screen
18:32 -!- Ox40Work [~KevinK@68-117-29-62.static.fdul.wi.charter.com] has joined #tcpa
18:32 <+kirsk> http://94.100.113.225/399150001-399200000/399162301-399162400/399162359_6_PQu7.jpeg
18:32 < Ox40Work> flood?!
18:33 < i_c-Y> dont worry , master cheif's got em
18:33 < Ox40Work> meh, not emo enough :P
18:37 -!- bs[PA] [~NinjaDrag@d60-65-200-180.col.wideopenwest.com] has joined #tcpa
18:37 <@efneTI92> [bs[PA]] Look! It's Captain Sarcasm, Master of the Universe!
18:37 -!- Merthsoft [~Shaun@140.141.214.241] has joined #tcpa
18:38 < Merthsoft> hi!
18:38 < Ox40Work> hi
18:38 < sir_lewk> hello
18:39 -!- bs[PA] is now known as bsparks
18:40 < Merthsoft> are you in pennsylvania?
18:40 < bsparks> Not anymore
18:41 < i_c-Y> ohio
18:41 < i_c-Y> or rather...
18:41 < i_c-Y> OHAYOO
18:42 < Merthsoft> PA sucks
18:42 < Merthsoft> OH sucks too, though
18:44 < smart_> kirsk
18:44 < smart_> Who is that in the picture?
18:45 < sir_lewk> PA sucks donkey cock
18:46 <+kirsk> idk some pale girl
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18:48 < i_c-Y> have you ever considered going outside and hunting down said girls instead of telling us about them, kirsk ?
18:48 < sir_lewk> there is some really cute girl at the burgerking near here
18:49 <+jd19> i saw a really cute girl at physical therapy yesterday
18:49 < i_c-Y> have it your way, take her.
18:49 < smart_> Her hair is nasty
18:51 <+kirsk> i_c-Y: why not do both?
18:52 < i_c-Y> cause you're annoying
18:53 <+kirsk> whatever
18:53 <+kirsk> im gonna meet a cute girl saturday at someone's birthday party
18:54 <+kirsk> and bowlingalleygirl smiled at me and acted pretty cute tuesday so i think i might chat her up next time
18:56 < Merthsoft> !k kirsk <word>girl is no longer allowed
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18:59 < Ox40Work> lol
18:59 < Ox40Work> "bowlingalleygirl smiled at me" lmao thats funny...
18:59 <+kirsk> ?
18:59 < Ox40Work> is [word]chick allowed?
19:00 < Merthsoft> !k Ox40Work no
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19:00 <@efneTI92> [Ham\__] Narf!
19:01 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Ham\__] by SnowCrash
19:01 <+Ham\__> blah
19:01 <+Ham\__> bored.
19:01 <@E-J> http://man.kan.narr.as/pics/freeday.jpg
19:01 -!- Ox40Work [~KevinK@68-117-29-62.static.fdul.wi.charter.com] has joined #tcpa
19:01 < Ox40Work> !k Merthsoft Oh. Thanks for answering.
19:01 -!- Merthsoft was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [Ox40: Oh. Thanks for answering.]
19:01 <+Ham\__> sfw?
19:02 -!- Merthsoft [~Shaun@140.141.214.241] has joined #tcpa
19:02 < Ox40Work> :)
19:02 < Merthsoft> !k Ox40Work no problem
19:02 -!- Ox40Work was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [Merthsoft: no problem]
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19:02 <+kirsk> mods = fags
19:02 < Ox40Work> !k  Merthsoft cool
19:02 < Ox40Work> :P
19:02 <+Ham\__> Ox40Work = mod.
19:02 < Ox40Work> kirsk: ooh _SFW picture?
19:02 < Ox40Work> where?
19:02 <+kirsk> what was so funny about bowlingalleylady smiling at me?
19:02 < Ox40Work> Ham\__ == tool
19:03 < Ox40Work> kirsk: no, that you said it...
19:03 <+kirsk> yes sfw
19:03 <+Ham\__> ham's food, not a tool.
19:03 <+kirsk> ok
19:03 < Ox40Work> "she looked at me OMG!"
19:03 < Ox40Work> :P
19:03 < Merthsoft> !k kirsk seriously
19:03 -!- kirsk was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [Merthsoft: seriously]
19:03 < Ox40Work> Merthsoft: yo ucan stop
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19:03 < kirsk> walking by her while she was standing next to the shoeracks and she smiled back
19:03 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v kirsk] by etaonrish
19:07 < Ox40Work> kirsk: you need to have a wireless webcam mounted to your head at all times
19:07 < Ox40Work> so we can see these people... KirskTV
19:07 <+kirsk> genius
19:08 <+kirsk> fullhd of course
19:11 < sir_lewk> naturally
19:11 < sir_lewk> that way we can make out every last detail of all the alt-chicks ignoring you :P
19:12 < sir_lewk> ooooo snap
19:12 <+kirsk> also 8x optical zoom
19:12 <+kirsk> what alt chicks?
19:13 < sir_lewk> haha
19:13 < sir_lewk> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Alpha_release_notes#X_Server
19:13 < sir_lewk> Ok, sometimes I really start to suspect Fedora is trolling
19:14 < Ox40Work> hahaha sir_lewk
19:14 -!- bsparks [~NinjaDrag@d60-65-200-180.col.wideopenwest.com] has joined #tcpa
19:14 <@efneTI92> [bsparks] Look! It's Captain Sarcasm, Master of the Universe!
19:15 < Ox40Work> "Option "DontZap" "false"" ??
19:15 < Ox40Work> wtf?
19:15 < Ox40Work> Option "ScrewThisShit" "true" will boot into windows :P
19:16  * bsparks cries
19:16 < bsparks> I own a motorola phone :(
19:16  * Ox40Work pats bsparks on the back
19:16 < Ox40Work> I know, isnt it awful?
19:16 < bsparks> it is :(
19:16 < bsparks> it/s one of the better motos
19:16 < bsparks> but still a moto
19:16 < Ox40Work> I have a RazrV3 or w/e
19:16 < Ox40Work> :(
19:17 < bsparks> Sidekick Slide
19:17 < leofox> i have a nokia
19:17 < leofox> i dont like the sidekick
19:17 < bsparks> Nor do I leofox 
19:17 < leofox> they are big
19:17 < bsparks> but my Nokia shit itself, and my sister recently got a new contract
19:18 < bsparks> so she gave me her sidekick for free
19:18 < leofox> it's an interesting concept
19:18 < leofox> but they are huge and the keys are still way too small
19:18 < bsparks> yeah
19:18 < bsparks> I concour
19:18 < bsparks> it gets the job done
19:19 < leofox> I got this one
19:19 < leofox> http://www.myworldphone.com/mmMYWORLDPHONE/Images/nokia3110big.jpg
19:19 < leofox> it's the right size, it has proper hueg buttons and it doesnt feel like a toy
19:24 <@E-J> and apparently doesn't have too much features that you don't use
19:24 < _Digital> the phone for me: http://img.gsmarena.com/vv/pics/nokia/nokia-5800-xpressmusic-2.jpg
19:24 < leofox> it has all the modern features
19:24 < leofox> it does mp3, pictures, videos, gprs, bluetooth
19:24 < Ox40Work> _Digital: awwesomme
19:25 < _Digital> ty
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19:29 < i_c-Y> _Digital: you got it already?
19:29 < _Digital> no, still seeing how a few things play out atm
19:30 < i_c-Y> i have http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=1105 :/
19:30 < i_c-Y> ive had it for 1.08 years ish roughly
19:31 < _Digital> 13 months?
19:31 < _Digital> fractions > floating point
19:32 < Ox40Work> lmao 1.08 years
19:32 < Ox40Work> _THAT_ is nerdy
19:34 <@_Auron_> this is mine: http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=1253
19:34 <@_Auron_> I've also had mine for 13 months
19:35 <+kirsk> leofox: oldschool
19:35 < i_c-Y> _Digital: ya
19:35 < i_c-Y> mines the free verizon phone
19:36 < Ox40Work> i_c-Y: HEY! I can call you for freeeeee :P
19:36 < i_c-Y> did i say verizon? i meant not verizon.
19:36 < Ox40Work> Hey! I can call you for FREEE!
19:37 < sir_lewk> pah, I have free local and long distance calling
19:38 < sir_lewk> with verison fios.  hells yeah
19:38 < _Digital> fios ftw
19:38 <@_Auron_> your fios is free? :P
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19:38 < sir_lewk> _Auron_: hardly :P
19:38 < sir_lewk> well, it's my grandparents
19:38 <@_Auron_> then your local and long distance calling isn't ;)
19:38 < sir_lewk> well
19:38 < sir_lewk> kinda
19:38 <@_Auron_> nothing is free!
19:39 < sir_lewk> depending on the scope of "free"
19:39  * sir_lewk eats a free lunch
19:40 <@_Auron_> goosh goosh
19:43 <@Andy_J> the scope of "free" is <stdlib.h>
19:43 <@Andy_J> *rimshot*
19:44 < DSP_Lord> n ou
19:44 <@Andy_J> ohi.
19:44 <@Andy_J> needs more gamesurge
19:44 < bsparks> <3 OS X
19:44 <@Andy_J> bsparks: I'm going to bring that TARDIS hub and put it in my cube, once I find it
19:44 < bsparks> Wat? lol
19:45 <@Andy_J> that I bought in toronto
19:45 < bsparks> Ohhh
19:45 < bsparks> Right right
19:45 < bsparks> wait, cube?
19:45 <@Andy_J> at my new job
19:45 <@Andy_J> it's rather barren :(
19:45 < bsparks> New job?
19:45  * DSP_Lord slaps Andy_J around with a bit of GET BACK TO WORK
19:45 <@Andy_J> DSP_Lord: it's called my afternoon break
19:46 < DSP_Lord> :P
19:46 < bsparks> Ooh! Terminal for Sidekick
19:46 <@Andy_J> I've only really got my laptop and phone in here :(
19:46 < bsparks> sidekick + ipod touch = iphone <.<
19:46 < sir_lewk> what, like legos?
19:47 < bsparks> oh, this thing has bluetooth too o.o;
19:47 < bsparks> schweet
19:47 < DSP_Lord> ohai bsparks
19:47 <@Andy_J> I need to take a picture
19:47 < sir_lewk> wtf is a "sidekick"?  some sort of telephone?
19:47 < DSP_Lord> yes.
19:47 < bsparks> hai DSP_Lord 
19:47 <@Andy_J> but I keep forgetting to bring in my usb cable for my phone so I can download it to the computer to upload it to teh tubes
19:47 < bsparks> sir_lewk, a crappy tmobile branded moto phone
19:47 < DSP_Lord> ^
19:48 < _Digital> DSP_Lord!
19:48 < bsparks> But
19:48 < DSP_Lord> _Digital!
19:48  * DSP_Lord runs!
19:48 < bsparks> it's MY crappy tmobile branded moto ( ;_; ) phone
19:48  * _Digital tazes
19:48  * DSP_Lord dodges
19:48  * _Digital drop kicks
19:48  * DSP_Lord dodges
19:48  * _Digital shoots
19:48  * DSP_Lord bubble shields
19:49 < _Digital> halo addict
19:49 < DSP_Lord> <_<
19:49 < sir_lewk> nerds
19:49 < _Digital> is this your PDA or did you get off you arse and fix your laptop?
19:49 < _Digital> sir_lewk, this is IRC, that is a mutually inclusive statement
19:49 < sir_lewk> :)
19:50 < DSP_Lord> _Digital: nah, using mom's computer.
19:50 < _Digital> lazy bastard
19:50 < sir_lewk> download tons of porn
19:50 < DSP_Lord> that's what pornhub.com is for >_>
19:51 < sir_lewk> lol
19:52 < _Digital> DSP_Lord, are you still on XBL anymore?
19:52 < DSP_Lord> when i can be.
19:53 < DSP_Lord> so, pretty much when you aren't.
19:53 < _Digital> like, when-you-can-fix-your-laptop can be"?
19:53 < DSP_Lord> well...
19:53 < DSP_Lord> my laptop isn't even here yet.
19:54 < DSP_Lord> none of my stuff that was getting shipped is.
19:54 < _Digital> ah
19:54 <+kirsk> does a 1080p signal look decent on a 1900*1200 res lcd monitor?
19:54 < DSP_Lord> sure, why not.
19:54 < _Digital> 1080p is 1920x1080
19:55 < _Digital> you'll have slight downscaling and balck bars on top and bottom
19:55 <+kirsk> so just turn the rest into a black border?
19:55 <+kirsk> but still 1:1 pixel ratio right?
19:55  * _Digital goes off to grab the Halo Wars demo
19:56 <+kirsk> what about 1080p on 2560*1600?
19:56 < _Digital> kirsk, usually it is just analog devices that had anything but 1:1 pixel ratios. Sans DVD
19:56 <+kirsk> fair enough
19:57 < _Digital> kirsk, it'll look fine with a little pixelation, but at that density you won't notice it much
19:57 <+kirsk> ok
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19:59 < sir_lewk> analog stuff is so cool.  totally elegant stuff
19:59 < sir_lewk> digital just seems brute force compared to analog, it lacks the cool elegance
20:00 < sir_lewk> luckily it doesn't look like analog radio is going anywhere anytime soon :)
20:00 < i_c-Y> digital is elegant too
20:00 < i_c-Y> it makes a lot of things really neat
20:01 < sir_lewk> it's elegant, but not in a simplistic way
20:01 < sir_lewk> simplicity is really cool, even if it yeilds sub-par results
20:01 <+kirsk> idk, analog seems more complicated to me
20:02 <+kirsk> i mean, digital is just ones and zeros and some stuff to make them do things
20:02 <+kirsk> analog is all kinds of fancy solutions to make magic happen
20:03 < sir_lewk> yeah, it's really fancy stuff, but it can be done with really simple technology
20:03 < sir_lewk> that's why I think it's so cool :)
20:04 < sir_lewk> digital is just ones and zeros, pretty dull stuff,  having all sorts of fancy modulated waves and "color burts" and stuff is really cool though
20:05 < sir_lewk> anyways, I lament the lose of analog television, even though I've had cable all my life
20:05 -!- _Digital [~DC@pool-71-165-124-42.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has joined #tcpa
20:05 < sir_lewk> *loss
20:05 < _Digital> 15Mbps ftw
20:05 <+kirsk> i for one welcome our new highdef overlords
20:05 < i_c-Y> analog doesnt make stuff simple.
20:05 < _Digital> piece of shit router ftl
20:05 < DSP_Lord> _Digital ^
20:06 < _Digital> 60
20:06 < _Digital> 60% downloaded of the 1.4GB
20:06 < sir_lewk> ok
20:06 < sir_lewk> I downloaded "The Mist" last night in like 20 minutes
20:06 <+kirsk> it awesome
20:06 < sir_lewk> awesome movie btw :)
20:06 <+kirsk> yay
20:07 < sir_lewk> I liked the ending, I thought it fit pretty well
20:07 <+kirsk> yeah
20:07 < sir_lewk> apparently most people hated it though :-/
20:07 <+kirsk> better than the book's apparently
20:07 < sir_lewk> the book ended with them driving down the road
20:08 < sir_lewk> open ended
20:08  * _Digital looks at forecast and sees rain
20:08  * _Digital looks outside and sees sun
20:08 < sir_lewk> the movie had a pretty blunt ending :)
20:08 < DSP_Lord> inb4 _Digital gets rained on.
20:08  * sir_lewk looks out the window AND SEES A MIST D:
20:08 < i_c-Y> getinb4rain
20:08 < DSP_Lord> ^
20:08  * i_c-Y looks outside and sees death, doom and destruction
20:08 < sir_lewk> inb4brain
20:08 < i_c-Y> actually the windows are so dirty here that you cant really see anything
20:09 < _Digital> ghetto
20:09 < DSP_Lord> lrn2windex noob.
20:09  * sir_lewk shoots _Digital for stealin his bitches
20:10  * _Digital bubble sheilds
20:10 < sir_lewk> you in mah hood >:(
20:10 < DSP_Lord> halo addict.
20:10 < sir_lewk> lol
20:10 < sir_lewk> deja-vu all over again!
20:10 < DSP_Lord> ^
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20:10 < sir_lewk> hey hey ba boo!
20:11 < sir_lewk> it's yoooogi beara!
20:11 < DSP_Lord> ¯\(°_o)/¯
20:11  * _Digital Houdini's sir_lewk
20:11 < DSP_Lord> lolololol
20:11 < DSP_Lord> sir_lewk got pwned.
20:12 < sir_lewk> wat?
20:12 < sir_lewk> ok 
20:12 < DSP_Lord> you.
20:12 < DSP_Lord> got.
20:12 < DSP_Lord> PWNED.
20:12 < sir_lewk> if you say so
20:12 -!- smart_ [~smart@c-76-110-92-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa
20:12 < _Digital> wtf! no one else is at my house and my 15Mbps is getting dropped down to 2!
20:12  * sir_lewk humps smart_
20:13 < DSP_Lord> smart_!!!!!!!
20:13 < sir_lewk> _Digital: no shit
20:13 < sir_lewk> welcome to consumer internet service
20:13 < _Digital> sir_lewk, I am downloading somethign from microsoft's servers
20:13 < sir_lewk> where you get penalized for actually using something you paid for
20:13 < sir_lewk> what ISP you've got?
20:13 < _Digital> if I dl-ed xcode it'd stay fully utilized the whole time
20:13 < _Digital> I have fios
20:13 < sir_lewk> hmm
20:14 < sir_lewk> well, comcast at least bumps you down for using what you pay for for too long
20:14 < sir_lewk> they say they only do that for bittorrent but it's really anything
20:14 < sir_lewk> fios I haven't had trouble with
20:14 < _Digital> I torrented over 1TB in less than a month without getting a notice from verizon
20:15 < sir_lewk> yeah, same here
20:15 < sir_lewk> they rock pretty hard
20:15 < _Digital> dammit! the dl should've been done!
20:15 < _Digital> it is going slower than 2Mbps
20:15 < sir_lewk> foox
20:15 < sir_lewk> fux
20:15 < sir_lewk> flux
20:16 < sir_lewk> CAPACITOR :O
20:16 <+kirsk> lulz sawyer
20:17 < _Digital> looks like it is moving now...
20:17 < sir_lewk> lulz Christopher Lloyd
20:17 < _Digital> sir_lewk, what speed flavor do you have?
20:17 < sir_lewk> dunno
20:18 < sir_lewk> I do arond 15Mbps
20:18 < _Digital> ul?
20:18 < sir_lewk> dl I think
20:18 < sir_lewk> dunno, don't really remember
20:18 < _Digital> what about*
20:18 < sir_lewk> I'll check tonight
20:18 < sir_lewk> my univ connection was far more impressive for sure
20:19 < DSP_Lord> my mom's got dsl :/
20:19 < sir_lewk> :/
20:19 < sir_lewk> my parents have comcast :(
20:19 < DSP_Lord> which somehow supports XBL!
20:19 < sir_lewk> wats XBL?
20:19 < DSP_Lord> xbox live.
20:19 < sir_lewk> Xtreme Baseball League?
20:19 < sir_lewk> oh
20:20 < sir_lewk> why shouldn't it?
20:20 < DSP_Lord> it wasn't about a year ago.
20:20 < sir_lewk> you can play quake just fine with dialup
20:20 < DSP_Lord> but now it does.
20:20 < sir_lewk> hmm
20:20 < DSP_Lord> duh.
20:20 < DSP_Lord> quake was designed for dialup. :P
20:20 < sir_lewk> yeah
20:20 < sir_lewk> *"quake was designed smart"
20:20 < sir_lewk> ;)
20:20 < DSP_Lord> <_<
20:22 < sir_lewk> Carmack is amazing :)
20:22 < sir_lewk> same with Chris Sawyer, though he's lesser known
20:23 < sir_lewk> he wrote that rollercoaster tycoon game, IN ASSEMBLER :O
20:23 < _Digital> damn, htis audio is compressed a lot
20:24 < sir_lewk> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RollerCoaster_Tycoon that game was sooooo badass
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20:26 < ports_> hey
20:26 < ports_> whats up
20:27 < ports_> this song sucks :(
20:27 < ports_> the quality of it anyway
20:29 < DSP_Lord> you suck.
20:29 < ports_> the pussycat dolls - i hate this part right here
20:29 <@E-J> http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1233864607848.jpg
20:30 < ports_> i went to lunch with my boss this afternoon
20:30 <@E-J> ports_: you know that it's not the music why pussycat dolls sell
20:30 < DSP_Lord> hello E-J
20:30 < ports_> we went to the place where they took me to lunch when i interviewed.
20:30 < ports_> E-J, hehe :P
20:30 <@E-J> hello dsp
20:30 < DSP_Lord> :)
20:30 < ports_> there we go
20:31 < ports_> E-J, i found a 320kbps version of it.. its much better.. no background static
20:31 < DSP_Lord> mmmmmm.
20:31 < DSP_Lord> honey nut cheerios.
20:31 < Ox40Work> ¯\(°_o)/¯
20:31 < DSP_Lord> ¯\(°_o)/¯
20:32 <@_Auron_> BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
20:33 <@E-J> ports_: well i don't think that i would like them even if the version is flac
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20:34 <@efneTI92> [Tyler2] I no longer speak fluent dialup.
20:34 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Tyler2] by efneTI85
20:35 < ports_> E-J, probably not
20:35 < ports_> E-J, i like more rock music.. but its loud
20:35 < sir_lewk> http://www.tuxradar.com/content/benchmarked-ubuntu-vs-vista-vs-windows-7
20:35  * sir_lewk ducks to avoid the flamewar
20:36 < DSP_Lord> vista sucks.
20:36 < ports_> the problem is that i need some background noise at work. and since i work alone.. i play some music or radio news...  but if i play it loud enough that i can hear it well across my lab... then its too loud and disturbs people on other floors
20:36 < DSP_Lord> FACT
20:36 < ports_> hold on
20:36 < ports_> vista is not bad when appropriately used.
20:36 < sir_lewk> lolwat
20:36 <@E-J> i'm weird, i like metal, ambient, neofolk and some other genres
20:36 < ports_> my laptop that i bought in august 2007 came with Vista.  ive Vista on it exclusively and i have been happy with it
20:36 < sir_lewk> "appropriately used"?  wtf is that?
20:36 < sir_lewk> anyways, /me ducks
20:36 < DSP_Lord> not used at all = appropriately used.
20:37 < sir_lewk> I have work to do ;)
20:37 < ports_> i disabled the bullshit UAC.. change a few folder view formats and disabled the stupid sidebar.
20:37 < ports_> on that laptop.. i normally fire it up to surf the web, use MS office, and irc/aim.  that is all. and it works perfectly for that
20:37 <@E-J> like now in playlist: tenhi, purity, endomorphism, april 
20:38 < ports_> E-J, have you heard of Hollywood Undead?
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20:38 <@E-J> tenhi is very calm, purity is more rock, endomorphism is doom and april is somehow american (despite it's finnish band)
20:39 <@E-J> ports_: nah, name sounds too emo
20:39 < ports_> doom?
20:39 < Dam\__> Will I still get to keep the same frame rate in games with Aero turned on?
20:39 <@E-J> doom metal is very slow type of metal
20:39 < ports_> E-J, Hollywood Undead sounds like a more rock version of Linkin Park
20:39 < ports_> oh
20:39 < ports_> i enjoy speed metal
20:40 < DSP_Lord> seen tifreak8x
20:40 <@efneTI86> I don't know who tifreak8x is.
20:40 < DSP_Lord> seen tifreak
20:40 <@efneTI86> tifreak was last on IRC channel #tcpa 3 days, 16 hours, 1 minute ago.
20:40 < DSP_Lord> baw.
20:40 < ports_> E-J, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FV3RCPSsuYE&feature=PlayList&p=BACF61F9F89D7A21&index=0&playnext=1 - ignore that its a youtube video of people playing guitar hero... its a good song
20:40 < sir_lewk> I enjoy power metal and symphonic metal
20:40 < DSP_Lord> ooooh, guitar hero video!
20:41  * DSP_Lord watches
20:41 <@E-J> ports_: i have seen dragonforce twice
20:41 < ports_> http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoID=2030737302
20:41 < ports_> thats a better vide of the real band
20:41 <+kirsk> you can slipstream vista to be 1.5gb
20:41 < ports_> E-J, two concerts? thats awesome
20:41 < DSP_Lord> lol, those two are silly.
20:42 <+kirsk> most overrated metal band ever
20:42 < ports_> DSP_Lord, i really dislike video of people playing guitar hero
20:42 < ports_> kirsk, really? why
20:42 <+kirsk> because their music is terrible
20:42 < DSP_Lord> ports_, i rather enjoy playing guitar hero.
20:42 <+kirsk> they have mad guitar skills sure
20:42 <+kirsk> but their music is ass
20:43 < DSP_Lord> also, i myself have a video playing on youtube >_>
20:43 < Ox40Work> Close the blinds you, you mightta been SEEN.... sittin alone with your INTERNET DREAMMM
20:43 < ports_> DSP_Lord, i said watching video of people playing.
20:44 < ports_> i dont particularly enjoy watching anyone else play a game... ever
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20:44 < DSP_Lord> meh.
20:44 < DSP_Lord> i can't do it for long with GH.
20:44 < DSP_Lord> Halo, though, i can watch videos of that all day.
20:46 < sir_lewk> lol, why?
20:46 < sir_lewk> that's like torture to me
20:47 <@E-J> ports_: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUz6zNkMj_Y this is example of extremely slow doom metal
20:47 < sir_lewk> it's such a simplistic game, all the videos you see are of just freak random grenade sticks or whatever
20:47 < DSP_Lord> meh,
20:47 < DSP_Lord> i usually watch the more interesting stuff.
20:48 <+kirsk> interesting stuff in halo?
20:48 < DSP_Lord> for example, i'm currently watching Halo 3 Mythbusters.
20:48 < DSP_Lord> interesting series.
20:48 -!- Tyler2 [~nexon@residence-204-172.henday.ualberta.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 202 seconds]
20:49 <+kirsk> ok thats the lamest thing ive heard this year
20:49 < sir_lewk> I find machima just lame
20:49 < sir_lewk> personally speakin
20:49 <@E-J> that band went to finland's single charts #2 with their one single "slave of satan" which is about 20 minutes long
20:50 < ports_> wow
20:50 < DSP_Lord> sir_lewk: halo 3 mythbusters is like the actual show mythbusters, just for halo stuff.
20:50 < ports_> i just submitted my first grant application today for state funding
20:50 < sir_lewk> hmm
20:51 <+kirsk> what is that?
20:51 < sir_lewk> machima is like a bunch of gamers who got bored with the game, so instead of going out and getting lives, they decided to make a show with the video game
20:51 < DSP_Lord> hey.
20:51 <+kirsk> what is that, ports_?
20:51 < DSP_Lord> Red vs. Blue is badass.
20:51 < ports_> kirsk, my company does work related to the renewable fuels industry. so for some of our work we can get state funding with grants.. just submitted me first grant application for $250,000
20:51 < sir_lewk> yeah, red vs blue was funny
20:51 < sir_lewk> I'll admitt that
20:52 <+kirsk> money for the project or for you?
20:52 < ports_> kirsk, to pay for my project.
20:52 < Dam\__> (C++):  I want to make a file browser... but how do I read directories?
20:52 < ports_> essentially free state money to get my work funded
20:53 <+kirsk> cool
20:53 < sir_lewk> you have got to be fucking kidding me
20:53 -!- Tyler2 [~nexon@residence-204-172.henday.ualberta.ca] has joined #tcpa
20:53 <@efneTI92> [Tyler2] I no longer speak fluent dialup.
20:53 < sir_lewk> why the hell do I even carry a cell phone? all I get is spam
20:53 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Tyler2] by efneTI85
20:53 < ports_> heh
20:54 <@E-J> Dam\__: in java there is library for that, i'm sure ++ have one too
20:54 < ports_> kirsk, ive only been working in my field for 2 years now.. so its kind of cool to do new things like this..
20:54 < sir_lewk> Dam\__: it's pretty easy on a unixy system, is that what this is on?
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20:55 < ports_> sir_lewk, you get spam on your cell phone?
20:55 < Dam\__> No, this is on Windows.  And it will have to run on both.
20:55 < leofox> I think it is illegal over here to send spam to cell phones
20:56 < sir_lewk> leofox: yeah, here too
20:56 <+kirsk> like, spam text messages?
20:56 < ports_> leofox, here too.. but if you list your number somewhere and they call you.. thats your fault
20:56 < sir_lewk> no, phone calls
20:56 <+kirsk> oh
20:56 < leofox> I once got a spam phone call
20:56 < sir_lewk> this was some PAC, *this time*
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20:56 < leofox> i always talk to them for a long time then dont buy anything
20:56 < sir_lewk> oh yeah
20:56 < Ox40Work> yunch tiem
20:56 < leofox> so that time i had a nice talk
20:56 < Ox40Work> I can has lunch?
20:57 <+kirsk> i never get spam calls
20:57 < leofox> and in the end they never called me anymore
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20:57 < NovaYoshi> Do you think I should toss out Noshell when I have an alternative that has more capabilities?
20:57 < sir_lewk> I love wasting their time, one time that "car warrenty" one got verbally abusive with me when he realized I was wasting his time on purpose
20:57 < Dam\__> NovaYoshi:  Tried CalcUtil?
20:58 < sir_lewk> NovaYoshi: use what you like.
20:58 < leofox> sir_lewk if they do that you should report him
20:58 < ports_> hehe
20:58 < NovaYoshi> Actually, I'm using CalcUtil
20:58 < ports_> brb bathroom break
20:58 < sir_lewk> leofox: oh, I do regardless
20:58 < NovaYoshi> I like being able to edit my archived programs
20:58 < sir_lewk> it was funny though, he tried to "out insult" me.  needless to say he failed ;D
20:58 < NovaYoshi> And I don't have to worry about locked programs not showing up in MirageOS...
20:58 < Dam\__> CalcUtil, AFAIK, is just NoShell on steroids.
20:59 < NovaYoshi> Yeah
20:59 < NovaYoshi> And I love it :3
20:59 < NovaYoshi> 16k either way...
20:59 < sir_lewk> but all those extra '1's take more power to store
20:59 < sir_lewk> ;P
21:00  * Dam\__ has three more days to obtain a graphing calculator.
21:00 < NovaYoshi> Apparently the Commodore 64 DTV thingy version of Cybernoid II sounds different from the original... and the version I got addicted to is the DTV version...
21:01 < NovaYoshi> Time to play with electricity?
21:01 < NovaYoshi> I got to hear it with some tape, the output cable, and an earphone...
21:03 < NovaYoshi> I really need to record it x.x
21:03 < sir_lewk> oooh, hardware hacks time?
21:03 < NovaYoshi> Maybe
21:03 < sir_lewk> upload pics!
21:03 < NovaYoshi> Unfortunately I always take the easiest path and that would be using an adaptor to plug it into the microphone jack on my PC...
21:05 < NovaYoshi> I only have two pockets... and I've been having trouble deciding what to put in them to show off my nerdiness... Multimeter, Nintendo DS, or TI-84 Plus Silver?
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21:07 < NovaYoshi> I wish the games for my calculator were less resistant to editing...I'd turn Dino Puzzle and Puzzle Frenzy into Yoshi and Tetris Attack
21:07 <@E-J> why do you want to show your nerdiness
21:07 < NovaYoshi> Why not?
21:07 < NovaYoshi> I'm proud of it :3
21:07 < NovaYoshi> Same reason I sat in my underwear playing Bubble Bobble on the NES
21:08 <@E-J> if you want to be real nerd you should put orginal gameboy in pocket
21:08 < NovaYoshi> If I owned one of those...
21:08 < NovaYoshi> I wasn't even born back then
21:08 < sir_lewk> NovaYoshi: multimeter and calc
21:08 < sir_lewk> I walk around Philly with a TI-86 clipped to my belt
21:08 <@E-J> 84+ isn't very nerdy
21:08 < NovaYoshi> But I can program on my DS, and I'm mostly into programming...
21:08 < sir_lewk> you would not believe how many babes want to sex me up on the spot
21:08 <@E-J> 82 or 85  would be
21:09 <@E-J> old 82
21:09 < NovaYoshi> The whole reason I bought my TI-84+ was for the games, being able to play then in class, and the fact that a whole lot of TI-84 games have level editors, which for me, makes my interest skyrocket
21:10 <+jd19> i always thought it was too obvious i was playing games in class when i was in high school
21:10 <+jd19> cuz my thumbs would be on the arrow keys
21:10 <+jd19> and i'd be staring intently at my calculator
21:10 <@E-J> whole reason i bought ti-86 was because some technical magazine said it's best calculator there is for finnish highschool
21:11 < NovaYoshi> My thumbs are on the arrow keys even when I'm not playing a game...
21:11 <@E-J> 89 and 92 aren't allowed
21:11 < NovaYoshi> E-J: Why not?
21:11 <@E-J> NovaYoshi: because of their symbolic features
21:11 < NovaYoshi> Symbolic?
21:12 < NovaYoshi> Like how Microsoft released a patch to take away the swastikas in their fonts?
21:12 <@E-J> you can for example solve derivative with just symbols
21:12 < NovaYoshi> Derivitive?
21:12 < NovaYoshi> I could write freaking C code to solve a lot of math problems...
21:13 <@E-J> "differential coefficient"
21:13 < NovaYoshi> Oh.
21:13 <@E-J> NovaYoshi: ... how old are you ...
21:13 < NovaYoshi> Thirteen-ish...
21:13 < NovaYoshi> Not in high school yet
21:13 <@E-J> then i understand
21:13 < NovaYoshi> Yeah...
21:13 <@E-J> i was in your age, more than 13 years ago
21:14 < NovaYoshi> Heh
21:14 <+jd19> E-J...you're old :P
21:14 <@E-J> nah, glk is old
21:14 < NovaYoshi> My little brother's learning Python... but I think I'll stick to Lua :3
21:14 <@E-J> i'm in python course now, just for fun
21:14 < NovaYoshi> I like Lua's power and simlicity
21:15 < NovaYoshi> *simplicity
21:15 < NovaYoshi> (I almost typo'ed it into SimCity!)
21:15 < NovaYoshi> (Not as bad as some of my other typos...)
21:16 < NovaYoshi> (When I was still into DM I remember accidentally defining a 'turd' object when trying to make a turf x.x)
21:17 <@E-J> ah, lua is scripting language, i think i won't never use it
21:17 < NovaYoshi> (I think my obsession with the NES might be related to my obsession with the 6502, which may be due to my obsession with the C64...)
21:17 < NovaYoshi> Oops, I forgot this wasn't NovaForest...
21:18 <@E-J> my dad bought us nes on christmas 1989
21:18 < NovaYoshi> So used to roleplaying that I suddenly thought I had to put parenthesis around OOC stuff x.x
21:18 <@E-J> but now i think i go back to reassemble my desktop pc
21:19 < NovaYoshi> I use Lua for when I don't want to bother with LibNDS's constant changing, and for Roblox
21:21 < NovaYoshi> So I've been working on a pixel art program in Lua...
21:21 < NovaYoshi> With my goal being to use only one file :3
21:22 <@E-J> well i study automation technology at university and in summer work and school projects i have programmed with c, c++ and java
21:22 < NovaYoshi> Not just because DSLua doesn't have any include function either...
21:22 < NovaYoshi> I'd rather work with cellular automation
21:22 < NovaYoshi> WireWorld :3
21:23 <@E-J> i have done mostly service robot things
21:23 < NovaYoshi> I wrote NovaBot... it's completely useless to everyone else
21:23 < Dam\__> Oh, joy.  Firefox detects whether or not you're using a high-contrast theme, then fixes all the web pages, so they're that way, too... now to figure out how to turn that off.  :/
21:24 < NovaYoshi> Opera doesn't have that problem :3
21:25 < NovaYoshi> But I dunno because I never use high contrast and enjoy blurriness
21:26 < NovaYoshi> I see the alarms are still sounding...
21:26 < NovaYoshi> I drew a picture of my RP character on the bus... but I don't own a scanner nor want to disassemble my Lego Mindstorms robot to build one with the kit either
21:27 < Dam\__> My eyes suck.  In the day time, I have to use black-on-white, and in low-light, white-on-black.
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21:27 <@E-J> ... reason i came to laptop was not to irc but look some information from net about my sound card
21:27 < NovaYoshi> I made a Wolfenstein 3D level of my school
21:27 <+kirsk> http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2208/2116831055_627f9b175e.jpg?v=0
21:27 < NovaYoshi> The principal killed me :(
21:28 <@E-J> NovaYoshi: when i was in comperhensive school i planned to make doom or duke nukem level of my school
21:28 <@E-J> never did
21:28 < NovaYoshi> Well, I did what I wanted to :3
21:28 < NovaYoshi> Some of what I want to do... but some of that stuff will never happen
21:29 < NovaYoshi> Like how I raised my standards to where I could probably never find a date...
21:29 <@E-J> NovaYoshi: though you should be more careful about telling that kind of things loud in these times
21:29 <@E-J> some people might think you are next school shooter
21:29 < NovaYoshi> I wouldn't care. My school has a bullet hole in one of its windows
21:30 < Dam\__> My high school's been shot at before...
21:30 < NovaYoshi> My school stinks
21:30 < Dam\__> ...with a paint ball gun.
21:30 < NovaYoshi> Wow
21:31 < NovaYoshi> I hope I'm not the only one who draws disturbing pics of catgirls in math class...
21:31 <@E-J> finns are nowdays little too worried about those things, 2 shootings in 2 years
21:32 < Dam\__> NovaYoshi:  At least you're not dressing up as one in Math class.
21:32 < NovaYoshi> If I were female, I would
21:32 < NovaYoshi> But the school has a 'no head coverings' rule so I dunno how I would sneak in the kitty ears
21:33 <+kirsk> ear coverings
21:33 < NovaYoshi> Heh
21:33 <+kirsk> in the same way glasses cover your eyes
21:33 < NovaYoshi> I'd look weird with four ears...
21:34 <+kirsk> you put them over your ears
21:34 < NovaYoshi> And a kitty's ears aren't on the sides of the head
21:34 <@E-J> NovaYoshi: other sad rules like that?
21:34 < NovaYoshi> They're on top
21:34 < NovaYoshi> Yeah
21:34 <+kirsk> it works fine either way
21:34 < NovaYoshi> I find lots of loopholes in their descriptions of the rules
21:34 <+kirsk> just point them upwards
21:34 < NovaYoshi> Take a look at this... if you get to lunch late, you have to buy your lunch near the end of lunchtime...
21:35 < NovaYoshi> But I eat a sack lunch
21:35 < NovaYoshi> So I get to be as late as I want
21:35 <+kirsk> some rules have no consequences when broken
21:36 <+kirsk> its your duty as a person not to be one of the sheeple who just do as theyre told but find your boundaries
21:36 < NovaYoshi> And I changed In School Suspension to At School Suspension in my assignment book...
21:37 < NovaYoshi> My classmates asked, "What's so bad about that?", my answer: "The acronym"
21:37 <+kirsk> hardcore!
21:39 < NovaYoshi> :3
21:39 < Dam\__> "So, I got put in A.S.S. today..."
21:39 < NovaYoshi> You should see what I did with the school song
21:39 < NovaYoshi> Now it talks about people pulling down their pants together...
21:40 <@E-J> ... school song ...
21:40 <+kirsk> thats fucking awesome bro!
21:40 < NovaYoshi> Originally it was 'pulling for our teams together'
21:41  * Dam\__ points his Sarcasm Detector 2000 in kirsk's direction.  The meter is over nine thousand!
21:41 < NovaYoshi> I scribbled over 'for' and 'team', and wrote 'down' and 'pants' above
21:41 <+kirsk> :O you did not!
21:41 < ports_> hey
21:41 <+kirsk> yo
21:41 < NovaYoshi> I did
21:41 <+kirsk> cool
21:42 < Dam\__> Time to go.  *Walks off to dorm.*
21:42 < NovaYoshi> It's the closest thing to making a Youtube Poop when I'm at school
21:42 <+kirsk> a what?
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21:42 < NovaYoshi> Mashup of videos to end up looking retarded but funny
21:42 <+kirsk> uhm ok
21:43 <+kirsk> a Youpoop huh?
21:43 < NovaYoshi> Sorta
21:43 < NovaYoshi> You'd have to see them for yourself...
21:43 <+kirsk> i kinda i doubt i need to
21:44 < ports_> ok nerds
21:44 < ports_> i have something for you to do
21:44 < ports_> youre going to play a game with me
21:44 < ports_> www.ikariam.org
21:44 < ports_> its like online Sims/Civilization
21:44 <+kirsk> world
21:45 < NovaYoshi> I'm a nerd but I have nerdier things to do
21:45 < NovaYoshi> And the restroom doesn't use itself, you know *flees*
21:45 <@E-J> i try to avoid net games like that
21:45 <@E-J> other one is travian
21:46 <+kirsk> travian was awesome
21:46 <+kirsk> also utopia
21:46 <@E-J> many of my friends were/are addicted to it
21:46 <@E-J> never tried
21:50 < NovaYoshi> Back
21:50 < NovaYoshi> The only net game I need is CoreWar...
21:50 < NovaYoshi> Sending in my Warriors
21:51 <+kirsk> ports_ did you see barney's awesome resume video?
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22:00 <@efneTI92> [Netham46] Narf!
22:01 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Netham46] by efneTI80
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22:04 < Ox40Work> oh god
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22:10 <+Ham\__> o.O
22:10 <+Ham\__> why'd Netham45 ping out...
22:10 <+Ham\__> I havn't even touched that computer today
22:10 < NovaYoshi> You touch computers? Usually I just touch the keyboard...
22:11 <+Ham\__> I usually touch them moments before they ping timeout, yes.
22:11 < Ox40Work> someone just walked into the store and I almost said "Welcome to #tcpa!"
22:12 < Tari> you should have
22:12 < Dam\__> Ha!
22:12 < Ox40Work> maybe you should get a client that automatically doesnt time out ;)
22:12 < Tari> I'll give you.. something if you do it next time someone walks in
22:13 < Dam\__> O_o
22:13 < Dam\__> "Something," huh?
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22:14 <+mtgrss111> Ox40Work: you know, it would be interesting if one of your "clients" at your store pinged out.
22:14 <+mtgrss111> just because you said that.
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22:15 <+Ham\__> are you saying that it'd be funny if someone died in his store?
22:16 < Dam\__> *Customer:*  "Hello, I am looking for a--"  *Clerk:*  Yes?  *Customer is silent, motionless.*  *Clerk:*  Sir?
22:17 <+Ham\__> it's like in the matrix, when someone unplugs someone so they die. *Ping timeout*
22:17 <+mtgrss111> Then the customer vanishes!
22:17 <+Ham\__> holy crap
22:18 <+Ham\__> I just found a docking station for an old laptop
22:18 <+Ham\__> I didn't even know it had a docking station
22:18 < Dam\__> *A minute later, same customer enters the store.*  *Customer:*  "Sorry, my pipes are a little clogged today."
22:18 <+Ham\__> o.O
22:18 <+Ham\__> Dam\__, he'd get redirected to the bathroom.
22:19 <+Ham\__> Join to channel #Store redirected to #Bathroom
22:19 <+mtgrss111> lol, nice
22:19 < Ox40Work> lmao mtgrss111
22:20 < Ox40Work> not nice, because IRC doesnt 'redirect' like that
22:20 <+Ham\__> it does on networks that aren't efnet
22:20 < Dam\__> Ham\__:  Just after he enters, a bot SPAMs an VESIcare ad.
22:20 <+Ham\__> lol
22:20 <+Ham\__> Ox40Work, * #windows ##windows :Forwarding to another channel
22:20 <+Ham\__> from freenode.
22:21 <+Ham\__> *disappears*
22:22 <+Ham\__> ...\
22:22 <+Ham\__> *reappears*
22:23 < Dam\__> Hm, my laptop display is a little far back...
22:23 -!- Dam\__ is now known as Dam|__
22:23 < Dam|__> That's better.  :)
22:23 <+Ham\__> lol
22:25 <@E-J> now, where is my headlamp
22:26 < NovaYoshi> Rizon doesn't have forwarding so I never need to deal with forwarding...
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22:31 <@E-J> ... and it's on table just few cm right from me
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22:34 < Dam\__> sir_lewk:  You have competition.  (http://www.gushparty.com/SirAwesome/archive.htm)
22:38 <+mtgrss111> i just watched Chris Pirillo give an Etherpad lesson
22:38 <+mtgrss111> live.
22:39 <+mtgrss111> to be recorded and played on CNN later. that's pretty cool :)
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22:43 <@Nikky> Merth: I'm sorry.
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23:22 < Ox40Work> "You know what I hate? When someone is walking one direction but their head is turned the other, and you just know that whichever way you decide to pass them they are going to run into you."
23:22 < Ox40Work> lol sir_lewk
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23:37 < Tari> hmm
23:38 < Tari> something smells like well-seasoned ground beef
23:38 < Tari> but I'm the only one home
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23:49 <@E-J> it's always wonderful to see that you have put the dvd drive upside down
23:51 <@chronomex> after you close up the case, of course
23:54 < sir_lewk> "18:22 < Ox40Work> lol sir_lewk" Thank you, thank you
23:54 < sir_lewk> I'll be here all week!
23:56 < ports_> nom nom nomnom
23:57 < ports_> ok geeks
23:57 < ports_> you will play a new game with me
23:57 < ports_> www.ikariam.org
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