--- Log opened Tue Feb 03 00:00:06 2009 --- Day changed Tue Feb 03 2009 00:00 -!- efneTI92 [aardvarq@0011D844068B.cpe.persona.ca] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 00:00 <@Andy_J> good first day at work. 00:00 <+kirsk> same here 00:04 -!- efneTI92 [aardvarq@0011D844068B.cpe.persona.ca] has joined #tcpa 00:04 -!- mode/#tcpa [+o efneTI92] by efneTI85, efneTI89 00:04 -!- mode/#tcpa [+o efneTI92] by efneTI86 00:08 <+prime_> what do they say a typical hand written page is, 250 words? 00:09 <@E-J> i'd say it depends which language you use and how big is your handwriting 00:09 <@E-J> but when i had some essays to write in foreign languages they were normally 200 to 250 words 00:10 <@E-J> (english, german or swedish) 00:10 <+kirsk> i think i always ended up at 250 words per page quite exactly in highschool yes 00:11 <@E-J> we had always max words 00:11 <@E-J> on english it was either 220 or 250 00:11 <@E-J> german and swedish was less but they were also at lower level 00:12 < leofox> kirsk have any good fapmaterial? 00:12 < leofox> i dont feel like going to sleep yet 00:19 * Nikky kisses Andy_J 00:21 -!- smart_ [~smart@c-76-110-92-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:21 -!- smart_ [~smart@c-76-110-92-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 00:22 < Ox40> DARN IT 00:22 < Ox40> how do you spell oddessy? 00:22 <+kirsk> odyssey 00:22 < Ox40> ah 00:22 < Ox40> ;) 00:23 < Ox40> weird word 00:23 < Ox40> haha, backwards it reads "yes y' do" 00:23 <@Andy_J> yes sy do? 00:23 < Ox40> "yes, yuh do" 00:24 <@Andy_J> You missed an s. 00:25 < Ox40> yeah, its lost in the speech 00:25 < leofox> just like your mom 00:30 <+kirsk> couragewofl is quite awesome sometimes 00:30 <+kirsk> "youre better than god - he had to rest" 00:31 < leofox> "great meme they said - I say greatest!" 00:32 <+kirsk> excellent 00:33 <@Andy_J> no, it isn't 00:33 <+kirsk> lulz 00:34 <+kirsk> i just got a chainmessage on hyves about a petition against baby seals being clubbed to death. with pictures of the aftermath adn everything 00:35 <+kirsk> "even if youre against forwarding chainmessages this is different. show that you care with us by forwarding this. we want to try to get it signed by 500 people" 00:35 -!- ports_ [~ports@64.146.49.170] has quit [Quit: You know, it's the first time someone suggested I go in that direction!] 00:35 < leofox> every chainmessage says it's different than the others 00:35 < leofox> they are all the same 00:35 -!- ports- [~ports@64.146.49.170] has joined #tcpa 00:35 <+prime_> im killing one seal for each person that doesnt foward it 00:35 < ports-> hrm crap 00:36 < ports-> theres something wrong with my game 00:36 < leofox> they are like living organisms 00:36 < leofox> breeding through the internet 00:36 <+kirsk> idk why they claim clubbing seals is a sport though 00:36 < leofox> the succesful ones get copied more often 00:36 <+kirsk> "Norway and Canada have a new sport.. they are killing baby seals" 00:37 < leofox> I often reply with a sarcastic response 00:37 < leofox> "leofox has a new sport... deleting your retarded chainmessages" 00:38 < leofox> chainmessages are cancer 00:38 <+kirsk> should i respond with 'if you actually cared rather than just pretended too you would either try to do something usefull about it or be too stupid to ackomplish anything. just stop buying your ugly oversized jackets with baby seal fur lining and go back to bed you dumb cunts' 00:38 < leofox> spread through stupid people 00:38 < leofox> this one time, some stupid receptionist over here found a way to get the adresses of all the students 00:39 < leofox> she sent everyone an email asking to vote on her baby in some stupid contest 00:39 < leofox> to 7000 people 00:39 <+kirsk> haha lulz 00:39 < leofox> so after a while, people started clicking reply to all 00:39 <+kirsk> well obviously, we did that when they made a mistake with the cc vs bcc too 00:39 < leofox> the headers were 3MB or so 00:39 < leofox> 3MB to 7000 people 00:40 < leofox> about 30-50 times 00:40 <+kirsk> started having conversations to several hundred people about gathering in the lax or having a beer on the terras 00:40 < leofox> and that even with responses like out of office replies and WTF ARE YOU DOING 00:40 <@Andy_J> I'd hope she got fired. 00:40 < leofox> Andy_J i think she didnt 00:40 <@Andy_J> -.-. 00:40 <+kirsk> doubt it 00:40 -!- ports- [~ports@64.146.49.170] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:40 < leofox> the damage was just a lot of mail clients and delayed mail for a whole day 00:41 < leofox> * crashed mail clients 00:41 -!- ports_ [~ports@64.146.49.170] has joined #tcpa 00:41 < leofox> i really hate what they did with easter this year 00:42 -!- Dam\__ [~winterven@216.117.121.118] has joined #tcpa 00:42 < ports_> leofox, what 00:42 < leofox> they put the days off inside the tentamination period 00:42 < ports_> they made it christian and added bunnies? 00:42 -!- ticalcnoa [~chatzilla@ip70-189-96-58.ok.ok.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:42 < leofox> where we usally have a lot of days off to study for the tests 00:42 < leofox> and it's not like we get fewer tests because of these days 00:42 < ports_> oh 00:42 < ports_> youre in college 00:43 < leofox> *university 00:43 <+kirsk> ports_+1 for christianity joke 00:43 < leofox> thank you very much 00:43 <+kirsk> same thing in NL 00:43 < leofox> kirsk goes to college 00:43 < ports_> kirsk, lol thanks 00:43 <+prime_> kirsk is hot alt dude 00:43 < Dam\__> (By who's standards?) 00:44 < Dam\__> * whose 00:44 <+prime_> (why was that in parathensis?) 00:44 -!- Perryman [~d@97-114-133-35.sxfl.qwest.net] has joined #tcpa 00:44 <+mtgrss111> "Lecturer bans students from using Google and Wikipedia" 00:44 <+kirsk> he's whispering 00:44 <+kirsk> wth its almost 2am 00:45 < leofox> mtgrss111 haha over here they wont ban me from wikipedia because they think i;m a public pc with students that are dicking about 00:45 <+kirsk> and this morning i got up at 8 after 2 hours of sleep 00:45 < leofox> yeh that kirsk 00:45 < leofox> well for me it was 9am 00:45 <+mtgrss111> leofox: lol 00:45 <+kirsk> your rythm is fucked too? 00:45 <+kirsk> i am hearing everyone complain about their sleeping lately 00:45 < leofox> like an alt girl in a #tcpa meeting 00:45 <+kirsk> dibs 00:46 <+mtgrss111> kirsk: my rythym is sublime 00:46 < leofox> theres plenty of her for everyone kirsk you just need to learn to share :P 00:46 < Ox40> lol @ 'dibs' 00:47 <+kirsk> do not try to negate my dibs 00:47 < Ox40> I call uuber dibs, no dibs-back! 00:47 <+mtgrss111> dibs are no more sacred than YOU are, kirsk. 00:48 <+kirsk> so honer them 00:48 <+kirsk> honor 00:48 <+mtgrss111> screw dibs 00:48 -!- tsrk [~tsrk@c-67-171-134-156.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 00:53 <@Andy_J> how does a quadro nvs 135m compare to other stuff? =\ 00:54 -!- efneTI92 [aardvarq@0011D844068B.cpe.persona.ca] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 00:56 -!- efneTI92 [aardvarq@0011D844068B.cpe.persona.ca] has joined #tcpa 00:56 -!- mode/#tcpa [+o efneTI92] by efneTI85, efneTI89, efneTI86 00:57 <+prime_> Andy_J: it's about 8% more efficient 00:57 < leofox> lol, i actually made top listener on last fm 00:57 <+kirsk> awesome 00:57 < leofox> isnt that great 00:58 < leofox> it was pretty silly 00:58 < leofox> i didnt even do it on purpose 00:58 < leofox> like the people that get a dedicated server to play the same band for 24/7 00:59 < ports_> i want some north face gear 00:59 < ports_> but im not comfortable paying $200 for a fleece 01:00 <+kirsk> what are they made of? baby seals? 01:01 <+mtgrss111> Oh wow, a Super Smash Bros. TI83+ clone. 01:01 < ports_> http://www.alabamaoutdoors.com/browse.cfm/4,13454.html 01:01 < ports_> kirsk, goretex.. supposed to be wind proof fleece 01:01 <+mtgrss111> Something to sink my predatorial teeth into! >=): 01:02 * Dam\__ likes the 68k version better. :) 01:02 <+kirsk> i only buy clothes > $100 if they are made of baby seals and kittens 01:02 <+mtgrss111> http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/416/41614.html 01:02 < ports_> i dont buy clothes that expensive unless if theyre suits 01:02 -!- leofox [leofox@leofox.student.utwente.nl] has quit [] 01:03 <+kirsk> people think im great with cats but really theyre just attracted to the smell of their kin when i wear my socks 01:03 < ports_> ok 01:03 < Dam\__> mtgrss111: lolwtf? 01:03 -!- kirsk [~krisk@j239072.upc-j.chello.nl] has left #tcpa [] 01:04 <+mtgrss111> Dam\_: you know I won't ignore THIS! >:] 01:04 <+mtgrss111> Time to play and review! 01:06 -!- tsrk [~tsrk@c-67-171-134-156.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 01:10 <+mtgrss111> holy... 01:11 <+mtgrss111> this game is terrible... 01:11 <+prime_> whats teh difference between an american inflatable sex doll and a muslim inflatable sex doll? 01:11 <+prime_> the muslim sex doll blows itself up 01:11 <+mtgrss111> you don't feel guilty banging the american one 01:11 <@Andy_J> that isn't fun 01:11 <@Andy_J> ny 01:11 <+prime_> no, it wouldnt be fun when that thing goes off 01:11 <+prime_> nor funny 01:12 <+mtgrss111> Nikky: don't you guys test this shit before you archive it? 01:17 <@Nikky> too hard 01:17 <@Nikky> report it 01:17 <@Nikky> using the mystery box on every page 01:19 <@Nikky> we rely on users to review and rate files 01:21 -!- Perryman [~d@97-114-133-35.sxfl.qwest.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:21 -!- Perryman [~d@97-114-133-35.sxfl.qwest.net] has joined #tcpa 01:22 <+mtgrss111> I guess I knew that. 01:22 <+mtgrss111> Sorry for the outburst, Nikky. 01:24 -!- millinao [~millinao@c-71-193-155-217.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 01:24 <@Nikky> It's okay 01:24 <@Nikky> how bad is the game? 01:25 <+mtgrss111> Eh, it's pretty slow ( I was using 84SE ) for an xLib program. 01:25 < ports_> lol 01:25 < ports_> every sound is like a sonic boom 01:25 < ports_> meh 01:26 < ports_> i forgot to save the patch for GRAW2 01:26 < ports_> it wont let me past mission 7 01:27 <+mtgrss111> The art was atrocious, it looked like he drew all the sprites and text using PEN 01:27 <+mtgrss111> The controls were unresponsive as well, and he didn't do a very good job logging multiple keys. 01:28 <+mtgrss111> He shall recieve a very stern review from yours truly. 01:30 < millinao> what game 01:31 <+mtgrss111> http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/416/41614.html 01:31 < millinao> oh hahahahaha 01:31 < millinao> what happened with getting him on the channel 01:34 <+mtgrss111> I don't even know if he visits this channel. 01:36 < ports_> hehe 01:37 -!- glk [glk@ppp-70-128-105-14.dsl.tulsok.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 01:38 < millinao> what TI game has the best graphics 01:39 <+mtgrss111> Hmm........ 01:39 < Dam\__> Doom (68k), Mario (68k), Castlevania (z80). 01:39 < Dam\__> And, of course, Desolate. 01:39 <+mtgrss111> Yeah....pretty much <_< ( I was gonna say pokemon stadium ) 01:42 -!- Perryman` [~d@97-114-133-35.sxfl.qwest.net] has joined #tcpa 01:42 -!- Dam\__ [~winterven@216.117.121.118] has quit [Quit: "No reason remains for us to stay." (0AD)] 01:44 -!- Storm\_ [~TheStorm@CPE-75-86-232-242.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa 01:44 <@efneTI92> [Storm\_] Yes rivereye, it is time to go fishing. 01:48 -!- Perryman [~d@97-114-133-35.sxfl.qwest.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 01:54 -!- glk [glk@ppp-70-128-105-14.dsl.tulsok.swbell.net] has joined #tcpa 01:54 -!- TD-Linux [~wheeeeeee@65.165.173.1] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 01:55 -!- Dam\__ [~winterven@216.117.121.118] has joined #tcpa 01:55 <@Nikky> 00000000000 01:57 < Dam\__> s:0:1:g #I has flipped ur bits, lol. 01:58 < ports_> ok i get quite pissed when my wireless mouse gets interference 01:58 < ports_> it makes me want to throw my mouse 01:58 < millinao> maybe you should realize what you're getting mad at 01:58 < Dam\__> How much did it cost? 01:58 <+mtgrss111> True. What device is your mouse inhibiting? lol 02:04 < millinao> http://www.goblinoidgames.com/labyrinthlord.htm 02:18 <@Nikky> hmm 02:18 <@Nikky> I do't recall sending that line ith zro 02:18 <@Nikky> I'm pretty sure I was asleep at that time 02:27 < millinao> wtf 02:27 < Dam\__> "Where is the real female?" "I'll never tell!" "*Pointing gun:* Where is the real female?" "I'll get here for you." 02:27 < millinao> I wonder if anyone has sleep-irc'd 02:28 < Dam\__> * her 02:28 -!- Goplat [~goplat@76-191-156-24.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has joined #tcpa 02:28 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Goplat] by Remius, efneTI81 02:49 -!- smart_ [~smart@c-76-110-92-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: ircN 8.00 for mIRC (20080809) - www.ircN.org] 02:51 < Barrett> !seen tifreak 02:51 < Barrett> !seen tifreak 02:51 < Barrett> ? 02:51 <@efneTI86> tifreak (DanielThor@1Cust3223.an4.ind20.da.uu.net) was last seen quitting from #tcpa 22 hours, 13 minutes ago stating (Quit: tifreak). 03:02 -!- mtgrss111 [~Administr@c-98-194-46-169.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [] 03:04 -!- Speler [Mibbit@149.125.166.55] has joined #tcpa 03:14 -!- TD-Linux [~wheeeeeee@96-42-68-26.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com] has joined #tcpa 03:19 < Speler> Hi 03:20 < Dam\__> Lo. 03:22 <+jd19> what up 03:22 < Speler> Bookin a tour 03:23 <+jd19> cool 03:23 < Speler> Mhmm 03:24 <+prime_> When George Bush was president, people said that a monkey could do a better job. Well, we're about to find out! 03:24 < Speler> :/ 03:26 -!- Spengo [~Spengo@64.251.246.81] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:29 -!- Speler [Mibbit@149.125.166.55] has quit [http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 03:32 -!- sn0tz [~none@255.137.189.72.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa 03:32 < sn0tz> anyone know their proofs? 03:32 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v sn0tz] by efneTI85 03:32 -!- i_c-Y [~Icy@cpe-69-204-242-163.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa 03:34 <+prime_> somewhat 03:35 <+jd19> seems like ages since i've done a proof 03:35 -!- Spengo [~Spengo@64.251.246.81] has joined #tcpa 03:35 <+jd19> discrete mathematics and linear algebra classes... 03:36 <+sn0tz> prove the proposition P(1), where P(n) is the proposition - If n is a positive integer, then n^2 >= n 03:36 < glk> I am not good with proofs. Ask elsewhere. 03:36 -!- Speler [Mibbit@149.125.166.55] has joined #tcpa 03:36 <+sn0tz> i asked #math but perhaps theyre preoccupied 03:36 <+sn0tz> i need to take linear algebra, i'm not looking forward to it 03:37 < Dam\__> Who are they banning now? :) 03:37 <+jd19> i managed to pass it without turning in most of the homework...so bleh 03:37 <@Nikky> Cheese. 03:37 <@Nikky> I made proofs up. 03:38 < Speler> And crackers 03:38 <+sn0tz> lol 03:38 <+prime_> that one is going to be on the web 03:40 <+prime_> it is only February 1st, and more people this year have already died from peanut butter than pot 03:41 <@chronomex> how does one die from pot? 03:41 <@Nikky> That's the point. 03:42 <+sn0tz> probably choked on pb 03:42 <+prime_> no one ever in the history of the world has died from pot 03:42 < Speler> Pot==awesome 03:43 <+sn0tz> ^.^ 03:43 <@Nikky> Netham45==awesome 03:43 <+prime_> what do you propose we do to fix this Nikky? 03:43 < Speler> Netham45==Pot 03:43 <+prime_> make it leagal but impose a tax? 03:43 -!- JoelS [~JSeligste@outbound285a.pasd.tfbnw.net] has joined #tcpa 03:43 <@Nikky> prime_: Exactly. 03:43 <+prime_> make billions 03:43 <@Nikky> Tax the shit out of it. 03:43 <+prime_> save the economy 03:44 <+sn0tz> its good the way it is 03:44 <@chronomex> ah, salmonella 03:44 <@Nikky> Well, I doubt it will save the economy. 03:44 <@Nikky> But it wouldn't hurt. 03:44 < Dam\__> Yay, my Lexmark X5070 apparently won't work with Linux. 03:44 <+prime_> not counding the money saved by not enforcing its ban 03:44 <+prime_> counting 03:44 < Dam\__> But there is a Lexmark 5000-series driver. :/ 03:45 < Speler> More money is spent stopping bank robberies then is stolen from the average bank robbery 03:45 < V200> what are the ages that you can be drafted in the US (assuming there's a draft)? 03:45 < V200> is it 18-25? 03:45 <@Nikky> prime_: So totally true. 03:45 <@chronomex> V200: http://www.sss.gov/ 03:45 <@Nikky> If there's about to be a draft, I'm totally joining the coast goard. 03:46 <@chronomex> fuck yeah, coast guard 03:46 <@Nikky> goard, not guard 03:46 < Speler> I'm totally going to jail 03:46 <@Nikky> Because I care about not blowing people up in foreign countries. 03:46 < Speler> If there's a draft <.< >.> 03:47 <@Nikky> Obama just declared war on Russia. 03:47 <@Nikky> So we're gonna have a draft. 03:47 < Speler> Did he? 03:47 < V200> yep, 18-25 03:47 <@Nikky> Speler: Yeah, for no real reason too. 03:47 <@Nikky> Just "it's time to get those commie bastards" 03:47 < Speler> Badass! 03:47 < Speler> Yo 03:47 * Dam\__ raises eyebrow. 03:47 < Speler> This is a president I can stand behind 03:47 < V200> so I'll be over 25 by the time obama is gone, but we might be the target of something during his presidency, so he could go the other way pretty quickly... 03:48 < sir_lewk> daaamn 03:48 < sir_lewk> did you guys know you can get straight razors cheap as hell on ebay? 03:48 <@Nikky> V200: That's why I was hoping he'd win. 03:49 < V200> so he could get a wake up call? 03:50 <@Nikky> From hillary, of course 03:53 <+jd19> V200: assuming he is there for 4 years or 8 years? 03:53 <@Nikky> 4 03:53 -!- Merthsoft [~Shaun@140.141.215.93] has quit [Quit: ☮♥♫] 03:54 -!- rivereye [~Rivereye@c-24-11-113-194.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 03:54 <@efneTI92> [rivereye] Is it time to go fishing? 03:54 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v rivereye] by efneTI85 03:56 < V200> jd19: 2 years 03:56 < V200> well... unless it's your 26th b-day... then it's 3 years 03:57 <+jd19> hahaha i might be late on this, but did you guys hear about comcast accidentally cutting to porn during the super bowl in Tucson? 03:58 < i_c-Y> o_O 03:58 <+jd19> http://www.tmz.com/2009/02/02/porn-clip-penetrates-super-bowl-broadcast/ 03:58 <+jd19> that shows it, but it doesnt actually show anything...it's blacked out 03:58 <+jd19> but you can still see the error comcast made lol 03:58 <+prime_> its just a dick being slapped around 03:59 -!- ticalcnoa [~chatzilla@ip70-189-96-58.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #tcpa 04:01 < Speler> Lulz 04:01 < sir_lewk> I think they have done that before 04:01 <@Nikky> comcast is failsauce though 04:01 -!- PhillipA [~phillip@host-154-169-220-24.midco.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:01 < sir_lewk> absolutely 04:02 <+jd19> pretty sure thats epic fail 04:02 <@Nikky> You're epic fail. 04:02 <@Nikky> Hi ticalcnoa 04:03 <@Nikky> The super bowl was kind of lame 04:03 < Speler> Nikky, I can't belive that I actually believed you for a second that we declared war on russia 04:03 < Speler> I feel super lame 04:03 <@Nikky> haha, really? 04:03 < Speler> Just a moment 04:03 < Speler> But yeah 04:09 < V200> man, Speler... how long have you been visiting this channel? 04:09 < Speler> A few years 04:09 < V200> and you believed something that Nikky said? 04:09 < Speler> No no no 04:09 <@Nikky> I am all knowing. 04:09 < Speler> I thought that's whay you as a group were talking about 04:09 < Speler> And was like, huhwah? 04:09 -!- reppy [reptile@naga.ircii.org] has joined #tcpa 04:10 <@Nikky> Hi reppy 04:10 < reppy> Hi 04:10 < V200> Pi 04:10 < reppy> :P 04:10 < reppy> speaking of pi ... 04:10 < Speler> I'd like some pie 04:11 <@_Auron_> ROTFLMAO 04:11 < reppy> I'm plotting a lot of points using radians using my ti-83 plus .. right now for each point I want to plot I have to re-type the entire equation with my new point .. is there an easier way to do this? 04:11 < reppy> if I use the graph function everything is in decimal form .. 04:11 < i_c-Y> why dont you just use the table function? 04:11 < i_c-Y> or put in a variable 04:12 < i_c-Y> and then store the new value to the variable then plot it 04:12 < glk> radians are used by trig functions 04:12 < reppy> as far as I can tell the table is in decimal form as well unless there's an optin to change that :P 04:12 <@Nikky> you can change to radian mode 04:12 < glk> http://grahamkendall.net/ has much TI calc data in Math 04:13 <@Nikky> under the mode menu, IIRC 04:13 < i_c-Y> yes, the table is in decimal format. 04:13 <@_Auron_> .. wrong window 04:14 < V200> wow. thanks glk 04:15 < glk> TI-89 lessons has much useful data 04:16 -!- Merthsoft [~Shaun@140.141.26.108] has joined #tcpa 04:17 < Merthsoft> hi 04:18 < millinao> hi 04:18 <@_Auron_> moo 04:18 < V200> ruff 04:20 -!- Perryman` [~d@97-114-133-35.sxfl.qwest.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 04:20 < millinao> aargh why is boardgamegeek still down 04:20 < Ox40> rawtflaymoh? 04:20 < Barrett> meow 04:20 < Ox40> *rawtflmeow 04:20 -!- Storm\_ [~TheStorm@CPE-75-86-232-242.wi.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:21 -!- Storm\_ [~TheStorm@CPE-75-86-232-242.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa 04:25 < tsrk> How can I output in a dialog (in a ti-89) "x=[value of x] [new line] y=[value of y]"? 04:26 < Ox40> tsrk: you talkin.... TIBasic or asm? 04:26 < tsrk> Oh, sorry, TI Basic 04:27 < Ox40> and what do you mean 'dialog'? 04:27 < tsrk> well, i just googled and found it, but now all i need to know is how to augment strings 04:27 <@chronomex> Ox40: it's an 89 thing 04:27 < Ox40> chronomex: ah :X 04:27 < Ox40> not me then :X 04:27 <@chronomex> tsrk: augment is matrices only 04:28 < Ox40> on a different note, everyone must watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28ItcyZl57g 04:28 <@chronomex> I think you append strings with & 04:28 < glk> Try InputStr command 04:28 < tsrk> oh, append, sorry 04:28 <@chronomex> glk: that's not what he's looking for 04:29 < glk> OK 04:29 < Ox40> Quick Q: I got a text "What do you do when you cant sleep?"... any ideas on how to respond? Because I can't ever not sleep... 04:29 < millinao> what editions of munchkin should I buy 04:29 < Speler> watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HK0l2tqFDvM 04:29 < tsrk> is there indentation in TI-basic? 04:30 < millinao> no I don' tthink 04:30 <@chronomex> you can include it, it will be ignored 04:30 <@chronomex> I found it very helpful 04:31 < millinao> holy crap this guy does amazing videos 04:33 < Merthsoft> Ox40: tell her to take Melatonin 04:33 < Ox40> ... 04:33 < tsrk> how do i convert an int to a string? 04:33 < Merthsoft> herbal supplement, makes ya sleep 04:33 < Ox40> Merthsoft: that would make me look like a druggie 04:33 < Merthsoft> tsrk: what language? 04:33 < V200> tsrk: # 04:33 < Merthsoft> it's not a drug 04:34 < Merthsoft> it's a naturally occuring hormone 04:34 < Ox40> Merth: this is supposed to be... a psycological look into my mind 04:34 < Merthsoft> it'll make it look like you know what you're tlaking about 04:35 <@_Auron_> I didn't make any sales tonight 04:35 <@_Auron_> but my boss said that's normal 04:35 <@_Auron_> as did my coworkers 04:35 <@_Auron_> heh 04:35 < Ox40> _Auron_: for what? 04:35 <@_Auron_> my new job 04:35 < Merthsoft> you see, when it starts to get dark outside the seratonin in your brain gets converted to melatonin 04:35 < Merthsoft> so taking some extra before bed will help relax you 04:35 < Ox40> (Im trying to install my online shop and im getting no error, but it wont continue. 04:35 < Ox40> ) 04:35 < Ox40> Merth: This is CWPHMChick, saying that would make me look like a dork. 04:35 < Ox40> Also, a liar. 04:36 < Ox40> :) 04:36 < V200> tsrk: string() will work with the "text" command 04:36 < Merthsoft> !k Ox40 chick is not allowed 04:36 -!- Ox40 was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [Merthsoft: chick is not allowed] 04:36 <@_Auron_> a sale that my boss made, he said the lady had a pipe and a bag of weed sitting on her dining room table. lmfao 04:36 -!- Ox40 [~Ox40@adsl-75-44-34-251.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #tcpa 04:36 < millinao> finally we are not allowing that 04:37 < Ox40> Fine, This is Kayla, saying that would make me look like a dork. 04:37 < Merthsoft> you asked for advice 04:37 < Ox40> :) 04:37 < tsrk> V200, # works though? 04:37 < Merthsoft> tell her to drink some chamomile tea ot something 04:37 < V200> tsrk: Text "x="&string(x) 04:37 < Ox40> I know, and I appreciate the response. :D 04:37 < V200> will display a dialog with "x=[value of x]" 04:38 < tsrk> what's # do? 04:38 < V200> it's an indirection string 04:38 < V200> you don't need it here 04:38 < V200> but is very useful in some circumstances 04:38 < tsrk> indirection string? 04:38 < tsrk> what's that? 04:39 -!- i_c-Y [~Icy@cpe-69-204-242-163.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:39 -!- i_c-Y [Icy@cpe-69-204-242-163.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa 04:39 < V200> let me see if I have any of my 9th grade programming projects to see if I can find an example... 04:40 < tsrk> ok, thanks 04:41 < V200> tsrk: if you have a string called x that holds the value "y", using the indirection string, you can get the value of the variable y 04:42 < tsrk> oh, so it's like string(expr(x))? 04:43 < V200> won't necessarily be a string 04:43 < V200> just whatever y is 04:43 < V200> 123->y 04:43 < V200> "y"->x 04:44 < V200> #x = 123 04:44 < V200> I believe... 04:44 < V200> it's been 7 years since I've done this... maybe 8... 04:45 < tsrk> ok 04:45 < tsrk> so it's just like expr(x)? 04:45 < V200> yep, the above was right 04:45 < tsrk> ok 04:45 < V200> no 04:46 < V200> in the above example it'd do the same thing 04:46 < V200> but it's different 04:46 -!- i_c-Y [Icy@cpe-69-204-242-163.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:47 < V200> and don't ask me why :) it just is 04:47 < Merthsoft> hem 04:47 < tsrk> ok 04:48 <@_Auron_> hum 04:49 <@_Auron_> I have $70 coming in from paypal to my bank account, but otherwise I'm completely broke, have no food, and only a quarter of a tank of gas left 04:49 <@_Auron_> :| 04:49 <@_Auron_> and my cellphone got cut off because I didn't pay the bill 04:49 < ports_> that sucks 04:50 <@_Auron_> yep 04:50 < Milyardo> I think its time _Auron_ starts working that street corner 04:50 <@_Auron_> I haven't eaten since last night I think 04:50 <@_Auron_> and all I had was a little bit of chips and queso during the superbowl 04:51 -!- Speler [Mibbit@149.125.166.55] has quit [http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 04:57 -!- Storm\_ [~TheStorm@CPE-75-86-232-242.wi.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:58 -!- TD-Linux [~wheeeeeee@96-42-68-26.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 04:59 -!- Dam\__ [~winterven@216.117.121.118] has quit [Quit: "No reason remains for us to stay." (0AD)] 05:00 <@Nikky> /n 05:00 <@Nikky> oops 05:01 -!- Barrett [~berto_cha@75-165-225-65.slkc.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 369 seconds] 05:05 -!- Barrett [~berto_cha@75-165-225-65.slkc.qwest.net] has joined #tcpa 05:05 -!- smart_ [~smart@c-76-110-92-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 05:05 < smart_> aardvarq 05:05 < smart_> You there? 05:05 < Ox40> lol Nikky 05:05 < Ox40> \r\n 05:06 <@Nikky> smart_: whore 05:06 < smart_> Slut 05:06 <@Nikky> Nobody likes you 05:06 < smart_> One of my god dang domains is about to expire 05:06 <@chronomex> which? 05:06 < smart_> sproutem.com 05:07 <@Nikky> www.nikkyisawesome.net 05:09 < Ox40> Nikky: heh, its blank. Void. False. True stuff. 05:09 <@Nikky> Right. 05:10 <@Nikky> I'm too awesome for the internet 05:10 < Ox40> hehe 05:10 <@Nikky> don't be a tool 05:10 < Ox40> sorry, 05:16 <+prime_> Next time you're having an argument with your dad and you're losing, tell him that you've been further inside your mother and made her scream louder than he ever has. 05:16 <@Nikky> good idea 05:17 -!- ports_ [~ports@64.146.49.170] has quit [Quit: You know, it's the first time someone suggested I go in that direction!] 05:17 < Ox40> O.o interesting iea 05:21 < ryantmer> Yeah, I'll definitely do that. 05:21 < ryantmer> Next time my parents argue. 05:22 < ryantmer> Which will be never >_> 05:24 < Ox40> GOD 05:24 < Ox40> why can I not get my KeepAlive module to work?! 05:24 < sir_lewk> it's depressed 05:24 <@Nikky> Because it's PHP. 05:24 -!- JoelS [~JSeligste@outbound285a.pasd.tfbnw.net] has quit [Leaving] 05:24 < sir_lewk> keep the pain meds and disposible razors away from it 05:25 < Ox40> sir_lewk: yeah... 05:25 < Ox40> its already emo as hell 05:25 <+prime_> 20mg zoloft 05:25 < Ox40> it just called die(); 05:25 < Ox40> Nikky: might be :X 05:25 < Ox40> What if I said it was perl? 05:25 <@Nikky> wpi;d sto;; ne [j[ 05:26 < Ox40> oh 05:26 <@Nikky> Would still be PHP's fault. 05:26 < Ox40> For corrupting my brain with inconsistent function names and horrible parsing? :) 05:27 < Ox40> wp;i;d sto;; be [h['s fai;t 05:27 < Ox40> heh, thats awesome. 05:27 < Ox40> you type "B" with your right hand? 05:27 <@Nikky> Probably 05:28 < Ox40> fingers (from left to right) 5 and 9 I never use. 05:29 <@Nikky> I don't use that shitty "official" way to type. 05:29 <@Nikky> Conformist. 05:29 < Ox40> Nikky: Neither do I... 05:29 < Merthsoft> it depends what word i'm typing about which finger hits b and g and t 05:30 <@Nikky> I'd rather snuggle with Merthsoft than type. 05:30 < Merthsoft> or just b i think 05:30 < Ox40> Lapkat says shai. 05:30 < Merthsoft> <3 05:30 -!- millinao [~millinao@c-71-193-155-217.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 05:44 -!- _Digital [~DC@pool-71-165-124-42.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has joined #tcpa 05:47 -!- Ox40 [~Ox40@adsl-75-44-34-251.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:49 < _Digital> gotta love when a system crashes and takes part of a file system with it 05:49 < _Digital> hopefully I won't go beyond 24 hours of downtime. I got about 3 to 4 left... 05:58 <@Nikky> XFS? 06:04 < Milyardo> \o/ XFS 06:04 < Milyardo> I mean no!!! not XFS! 06:04 < Milyardo> XFS makes me cry 06:05 < Milyardo> reiser4 ftw 06:10 < sir_lewk> wifekiller 06:11 * sir_lewk sleeps 06:11 < Milyardo> O_o 06:12 < Milyardo> half of XFS's "features" don't even work on Linux(on IRIX it kicks ass though) 06:12 < Milyardo> Guaranteed I/O my ass 06:13 < sir_lewk> so use a FS with proper linux support 06:14 < sir_lewk> good ol' ext3 is still good enough for government work 06:14 < Milyardo> Thats why reiserfs4 was win, although I have no qualms so far with ext4 and brtfs 06:14 < sir_lewk> half those newfangled FS features are shit that should be left to userspace tools anyways 06:14 < sir_lewk> backups and whatever 06:15 < _Digital> Milyardo, the corruption was on a reiser4 partition 06:15 < Milyardo> :O 06:15 < _Digital> though the crash I suspect was boinc's fault 06:16 < _Digital> I have to see if the panic was written to teh logs 06:16 < sir_lewk> I personally would not use reiser4, at least not until it's future is more clear 06:16 < Milyardo> Like how bad of a corruption? 06:16 < sir_lewk> using an unsuported filesystem == fail 06:17 < _Digital> portage is tweaked so I'm putting a fresh release on. I just finished an emerge but didn't type sync yet. 06:18 < _Digital> bbl 06:19 <@Nikky> ext4 is by far superior 06:20 < _Digital> ah, I'm missing /etc/group 06:20 < _Digital> must be in my lost+found directory 06:21 < _Digital> now if only there was an easy way to scan though 1800 files for a string inside them 06:22 < Milyardo> ... 06:22 < Milyardo> You're joking right? 06:22 <@Nikky> he must be 06:22 < _Digital> I'm still a n00b on the command line 06:23 < _Digital> I'm working off of a livecd mind you... 06:24 <@Nikky> grep -i 'string to search for' * 06:25 < _Digital> will grep then return the file name of the one that has said string? 06:25 < Milyardo> yes 06:26 <@Nikky> If you know the case, you can not use -i 06:26 <@Nikky> which makes it faster 06:26 <@Nikky> or, I assumed it did 06:26 < Milyardo> So what exactly happened with crash? were all your inodes orphaned? 06:26 < Milyardo> Were some orphaned? other corrupt? 06:28 < _Digital> tree depth was wrong so I had to use --rebuild-fs 06:28 < Milyardo> did you already run fsck on the volume to see if it could cleaned the orphaned ones? 06:28 -!- tr1p1ea [tr1p1ea@124-254-96-226-dsl.ispone.net.au] has joined #tcpa 06:28 -!- JoelS [~JSeligste@c-98-234-68-76.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 06:28 < _Digital> Milyardo, yeah, once it was cleaned, I could no longer boot 06:28 < _Digital> had many orphaned files 06:29 < Milyardo> :( 06:29 < _Digital> so far it seemed like those were the one's being accessed. problems with boinc and portage were the only two things I noticed before I booted to livecd 06:29 < Milyardo> You weren't supposed to do that 06:30 < Milyardo> When it comes to orphaned inodes on a journaled file system you should say no to fsck when it ask you to clean them 06:30 < Milyardo> then let the filesystem native journaling system repair them 06:31 < _Digital> I tried to run a regular check, but a fatal error was produced because of the tree depth 06:31 < Milyardo> but its too late now 06:31 < _Digital> and how would you do that with reiser4 06:31 < _Digital> and those files are in lost+found atm 06:31 < _Digital> for future reference 06:32 < Milyardo> reiserfsck 06:32 < Milyardo> yeah when fsck cleans an orphaned inode it just puts it in lost+found 06:33 < _Digital> the only options are --fix --rebuild-fs and --rebuild-sb 06:33 < _Digital> couldn't run --fix 06:33 -!- smart_ [~smart@c-76-110-92-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 369 seconds] 06:33 < _Digital> due to the tree depth issue 06:33 < _Digital> ^--fix^ 06:33 < Milyardo> you couldn't run reiserfsck --fix? 06:34 < _Digital> no, fatal error was produced by the wrong tree depth 06:34 < _Digital> told me I had to run --rebuil-fs 06:35 < Milyardo> I don't have a reiser machine installed or I'd check the man page 06:35 < Milyardo> let me look it up online real quick 06:36 < _Digital> yeah, numerous things broken with 1800 files relocated 06:37 < Milyardo> The man page says theres a --rebuild-tree 06:37 < Milyardo> http://linux.die.net/man/8/reiserfsck 06:38 < _Digital> is that for reiserfs (V3) or reiser4 06:38 < _Digital> that is reiserfs, this is a reiser4 partition 06:39 < Milyardo> yeah you're right 06:39 < _Digital> that is the equivalent of --rebuid-fs ironically 06:40 < _Digital> well, I still have my world file intact and I have my /etc folder in tact it seems. 06:40 < _Digital> I can have the whole system re-compiled inside of 2 hours... 06:50 -!- rivereye [~Rivereye@c-24-11-113-194.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:55 -!- tsrk [~tsrk@c-67-171-134-156.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:00 -!- Dam\__ [~winterven@216.117.121.118] has joined #tcpa 07:01 -!- Goplat [~goplat@76-191-156-24.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has quit [Time left until the Apocalypse: 28yrs 50wks 6days 20hrs 12mins 22secs] 07:02 -!- smart_ [~smart@c-76-110-92-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 07:14 < Dam\__> I got bored again... 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(0AD)] 09:28 < Spengo> how 'come some images are all stretched when you save them, but they display fine in a browser 09:28 < nicolas> they specify height+width in the img tag or its css 09:29 < nicolas> that would do it 09:31 < Milyardo> \o/ css 09:53 <@E-J> morning 09:54 <@E-J> today came the day when i bought a new case and psu 10:00 -!- Tyler2 [~nexon@residence-204-172.henday.ualberta.ca] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 10:01 < nicolas> E-J: oooh, what kind ? 10:02 <@E-J> nicolas: arctic cooling silentium t2 pro 10:03 <@E-J> old one is without pro and it's psu is 200W less powerful 10:03 <@E-J> and 5 years old 10:03 <@E-J> 4* 10:13 < nicolas> those arctic cases are cool 10:13 -!- obnauticu [~lol@c-24-22-20-142.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [] 10:14 <@E-J> yep, that's reason why i'm using them, and other reason is that you don't see many other people using them 10:15 <@E-J> almost every friend have some antec or ... 10:16 < nicolas> yeah, antec is pretty widespread, and seems to be the default for new buyers 10:16 <@E-J> http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/religion.jpg 10:20 <@E-J> http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article4314634.ab that guy killed 3 people in sweden 1988 and now he got released from finnish prison, check which t-shirt he is wearing when he got free 10:27 -!- leofox [leofox@leofox.student.utwente.nl] has joined #tcpa 10:27 <@efneTI92> [leofox] All we do in hell is play DDR! 10:35 < Milyardo> E-J: I have an Apevia case 10:35 < Milyardo> I like it alot so far 10:44 <@E-J> which one 10:44 <@E-J> those look very nerdy 10:47 <@E-J> ah there are normal ones 10:49 < Spengo> who the hell made this ti 89 os 10:49 < Spengo> it is making me rage 10:49 <@E-J> Milyardo: i like this t2 because it looks cool and it is silent enough and it's screwless 10:49 < leofox> panel 1: spengo does an equation on his 89 10:49 <@E-J> Spengo: which calc you did have before 89? 10:50 < leofox> panel 2: spengo looks surprised 10:50 < leofox> panel 3: ERROR 10:50 < leofox> panel 4: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFf- 10:50 <@E-J> panel 4': PROFIT 10:50 < leofox> old meme is old 10:51 <@E-J> those fffffuuu... have never been funny 10:51 <@E-J> maybe i'm too old 10:52 < Spengo> E-J, 83+ 10:52 < Spengo> which wasn't any better :P 10:52 < Spengo> I've had this 89 for like... 6 or 7 years now though 10:53 <@E-J> i liked 86's UI, and after that 92's and v200's ui was improved version of it 10:53 <@E-J> 83's ui is somehow worst ui of ti calcs 10:53 < Spengo> lol 10:54 < leofox> the 83 is easy 10:54 < Spengo> I wasn't talking about the UI in particular 10:54 < Milyardo> E-J: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811144133 10:54 < leofox> you type something and it calculates it 10:54 < Spengo> just how it's so annoying with it's "wait until memory is full and THEN garbage collect right when you really don't want it to" 10:54 < leofox> garbage collect only happens when your memory is almost full and you rape it like mad 10:55 <@E-J> Milyardo: good, not that green one :) but still very nerdy :P 10:55 < leofox> in other words when you use it for shitty games 10:55 <@E-J> leofox: Spengo IS mad 10:55 < Spengo> I still think it's poorly designed 10:55 < nicolas> and that's only for Flash memory 10:56 < leofox> flash memory is kind of hacked onto the 83 OS 10:56 < nicolas> Spengo: it's not poorly designed it makes perfect sense 10:56 < nicolas> flash has a high cost ("limited life") ... plus it's very slow to erase (to be able to write new stuff) ... so moving stuff around is slow 10:57 <@E-J> it's funny how people moan why calculators are slow or something like that when they are using them for games (which they aren't designed for) 10:57 < nicolas> garbage collecting is basically a defrag, you don't want to defrag your computer everyday, why would you want to defrag your falsh all the time 10:58 -!- ticalcnoa [~chatzilla@ip70-189-96-58.ok.ok.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:59 < leofox> garbage collection happens so often because shells like Ion have to copy everything back all the time 11:00 < leofox> if you run a typical 16K game that 16K gets written to flash every time 11:00 -!- ticalcnoa [~chatzilla@ip70-189-96-58.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #tcpa 11:00 < leofox> it's not like the TI-OS can help it, it's poorly designed games and shells that are the reason for garbage collecting 11:00 < nicolas> leofox: then use a smart shell that doesn't do that ;-) 11:00 < leofox> many programs rely on copying data 11:00 <@E-J> Milyardo: tell me what's so special about side window? why certain people want to see the wire jungle?-) 11:00 < nicolas> MirageOS gives you the option of writeback 11:01 < leofox> i know, and Crunchy actually looks if something has changed before writeback 11:01 < leofox> but it's not a real solution 11:01 < Milyardo> E-J: I dunno, maybe its for the lights 11:01 < leofox> crunchy proposed one, appvars for your data section 11:01 < Milyardo> or to paint on it, i 11:02 < Milyardo> I've seen some people do that 11:02 < leofox> but no one codes for crunchy because it's underused 11:02 <@E-J> ok 11:02 < Spengo> so use noshell 11:02 < leofox> i started coding apps for this reason 11:02 < Milyardo> I guess it also makes it easier to show off your machine during LANs 11:02 < leofox> apps don't stress the flash like RAM programs 11:03 <@E-J> yep, so it's just enlarge your virtual penis 11:03 < leofox> and they dont require additional software to run 11:03 < leofox> you just need to use the space efficiently 11:04 < Milyardo> The machine does have a nice abient radioactive glow to it though 11:05 < Milyardo> http://acm.umflint.edu/~zpowers/zion/ 11:05 < Milyardo> <---- pics of it at home 11:05 < nicolas> crap 11:05 < nicolas> I've got a song stuck in my head and I can't for the life the of me find the title+artist 11:06 < nicolas> and google isn't being useful :( 11:06 <@E-J> nicolas: there was that taö 11:07 <@E-J> tap site 11:07 < nicolas> indeed... i'm looking for it :p 11:07 < nicolas> ah there it iss 11:07 < nicolas> songtapper 11:08 <@E-J> i just found it from logs 11:08 <@E-J> http://www.bored.com/songtapper/ 11:09 < nicolas> nope, didn't work :( 11:09 < Spengo> hells yeah I remember this game 11:09 < Spengo> take my KICK you sonmabeech space alien 11:09 < Spengo> the kicking looks hilarious 11:09 < Spengo> a foot just appears on the overlay lol 11:09 < Spengo> with the leg straight out 11:09 < Spengo> oblivion 11:10 < nicolas> duke nukem :D 11:10 < nicolas> 3D 11:11 < nicolas> AHA 11:11 < nicolas> I found it :D 11:11 < Spengo> is there a duke clone for the 89 now? 11:12 < nicolas> no, but duke nukem 3d... when y ou had no ammo you had to resort to kicking 11:12 < nicolas> much like in doom he resorted to punching 11:14 < Spengo> ah 11:14 < Spengo> in the oblivion for the 89 you start out with no weapons 11:18 < Spengo> oh man 11:18 -!- tr1p1ea [tr1p1ea@124-254-96-226-dsl.ispone.net.au] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 11:20 < Spengo> this is bringin back memories 11:20 < Spengo> I wanna go play sqrxz and acelgoyobis 11:28 < leofox> damn it 11:28 < leofox> I lost the game 11:28 <@E-J> hmm, why i can't update amarok 11:34 <@E-J> hmm, now it's rocking 11:34 < Milyardo> \o/ 11:34 <@E-J> if adept doens't work well enough, then sudo apt-get ftw 11:36 < Milyardo> zpowers@raptor$ sudo apt-get ftw 11:36 < Milyardo> Password: 11:36 < Milyardo> E: Invalid operation ftw 11:36 < Milyardo> :( 11:39 -!- benryves [~benryves@79-72-88-136.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #tcpa 11:39 -!- mode/#tcpa [+o benryves] by efneTI86 11:39 < Milyardo> http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm2047610 11:43 < leofox> nico nico douga is so slow over here 11:44 < leofox> at least they stopped blocking foreigners when the bandwidth limit is reached 11:44 < Milyardo> Its slow for me here too today 11:44 < Milyardo> usualy its not that bad 11:45 < leofox> its impossible to use when you dont know japanese but they want to make it even worse for foreigners by ruining their bandwidth 11:47 < Milyardo> Its still alot better than youtube XD 11:49 < Milyardo> It should be around 7PM in japan right now 11:49 < Milyardo> so they probably are at peak usage 11:54 < Milyardo> http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm2315820 this makes me laugh despite the content XD 12:03 <@E-J> nicolas: http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/02/02/google-executives-face-jail-time-for-italian-video/ 12:12 < Milyardo> lol,is that not the most fucked up case ever? 12:16 <@E-J> it's italy, so i wouldn't be so sure 12:17 -!- tr1p1ea [tr1p1ea@124-254-96-226-dsl.ispone.net.au] has joined #tcpa 12:21 <@E-J> http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/WHO-WROTE-THIS-JUNK.aspx 12:22 <@benryves> Wotcha tr1p1ea 12:23 <@E-J> benryves: is it still chaos? 12:25 <@benryves> 'lo E-J; still snowy 12:25 <@E-J> yep 12:25 <@E-J> snowy here as well, but at least this country is used to it 12:26 <@benryves> Indeed, up in the North of England they're coping fine too. It's just us soft Southerners who don't have the equipment to deal with it. :P 12:34 < tr1p1ea> hey :) 12:39 <@E-J> tr1p1ea: how's weather there?-) 12:45 < tr1p1ea> gonna be about ~35C tomorrow iirc 12:45 < tr1p1ea> and, i have a decision to make! 12:45 <@E-J> still too hot 12:46 < tr1p1ea> do i keep doorcodes in Desolate or do i replace them with keys that you have to find and do away with the code entry on doors 12:46 <@benryves> If you do keep them being able to type them in directly using the numberpad would be nice. 12:46 <@E-J> more to do is always more to do 12:47 < tr1p1ea> benryves: yeah if i keep them it will definately be like that 12:47 < tr1p1ea> sadly i have to work on compression now :< 12:48 <@benryves> Which algorithm are you going for? 12:49 < tr1p1ea> not entirely sure, i think i will have to experiment 12:49 <@benryves> Coelurus used LZSS in Gemini, which was a bit different to the usual RLE. :) 12:49 < tr1p1ea> i will definately require something better than RLE 12:50 < tr1p1ea> i did port a pucrunch decompressor, but it is untested 12:51 <@benryves> Sounds like an ideal opportunity to test it, then. :D 12:51 < tr1p1ea> :) 13:06 -!- ports_ [~ports@64.146.49.170] has joined #tcpa 13:23 -!- Merthsoft [~Shaun@140.141.26.108] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:31 -!- zeropod [~zeropod@fiber-64.201.86.25.lhtot.com] has joined #tcpa 13:31 <@efneTI92> [zeropod] Look! It's Captain Sarcasm, Master of the Universe! 13:31 < ports_> ? 13:31 < zeropod> benryves: can you do me a huuuge favor? 13:31 < zeropod> or anyone really 13:32 < ports_> ? 13:32 <@benryves> zeropod: If you ask nicely enough I may even do you a favour. :\ 13:32 < ports_> benryves, speak english, the -our is incorrect :P 13:32 < Tari> real men use LZMA 13:32 * Tari -> school now 13:32 < ports_> whats lzma 13:32 <@benryves> ports_: I'm an Englishman, in England, so it goes without saying that what I speak is English. 13:33 < ports_> benryves, it goes with saying... you said it :P 13:33 < zeropod> can you find the list of public bitlbee servers, and pm me the list? 13:33 <@benryves> Idioms are wonderful things, even if they rarely make sense. 13:33 < ports_> what 13:33 <@E-J> http://www.netlab.tkk.fi/~jakivi/publications/Kivi_Mobile_Handset_Population_2005-2008.pdf 13:34 <@E-J> 66 first places are nokia 13:35 <@benryves> ports_: Take, for example, "head over heels". Surely our heads are usually over our heels? 13:35 <@benryves> E-J: The 3310 is *still* #2? 13:36 <@E-J> yes 13:37 <@benryves> Are free upgrades typical in Finland? 13:37 -!- HelDragon [~Nocebo@modemcable022.187-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 13:37 <@E-J> free upgrades? 13:38 < zeropod> benryves: ty 13:38 <@benryves> E-J: When your contract expires in the UK you are usually given a free handset. 13:38 <@E-J> linked transaction is only allowed with 3G-phones if you mean that 13:38 <@benryves> (To continue the contract, that is). 13:38 <@E-J> so most people don't use that kind of contracts 13:39 <@benryves> OK, which probably explains why the top phones are such old models. 13:39 <@benryves> Most people in the UK get a new phone every 12-18 months. 13:39 <@E-J> before 3g, linked transaction was against law and still is with 2g phones 13:39 <@benryves> (At least, most people I've encountered). :D 13:39 <@benryves> Hm, OK. 13:40 * zeropod can't wait to get home and be able to tinker with his sidekick 13:40 <@E-J> that's maybe reason why finnish call prices are so cheap 13:41 <@benryves> Maybe so, E-J. :) 13:41 <@benryves> Do you have rules against network lock-in as well? 13:41 <@E-J> nope 13:41 <@E-J> the iphone 3g is sold here you know 13:41 <@E-J> and you can only use sonera's network 13:42 <@benryves> Yes, the same in the UK. 13:43 -!- tr1p1ea [tr1p1ea@124-254-96-226-dsl.ispone.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:52 <@benryves> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7866938.stm - heh :\ 14:00 < zeropod> work time :( 14:00 -!- zeropod [~zeropod@fiber-64.201.86.25.lhtot.com] has quit [brbbl] 14:04 -!- Ham\__ [~Netham45@c-71-229-253-50.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Leaving] 14:06 -!- HelDragon [~Nocebo@modemcable022.187-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #tcpa 14:06 <@Andy_J> This is probably a stab in the dark in here, but does anyone know of any licensing frameworks for .NET to securely limit the number of times an application can be run licensing-wise? I can't seem to find any indication that FLEXnet Publisher can do this. 14:06 <@benryves> Hello Andy_J, and sorry, no. :( 14:08 <@E-J> benryves: took very long to see what's wrong with that flag :) 14:09 <@benryves> E-J: I guess it's a good test for Britishness, even if high-ranking members of government can't spot when it's hung upside down. 14:10 <@benryves> I suppose it's even harder to tell with the Finnish flag, of course. :P 14:10 <@E-J> maybe they made a protest :) 14:11 <@benryves> True, the upside-down Union Jack is a sign of distress. 14:11 <@E-J> yes, with normal flag, of course presidential and some other flags have things that make it easier to spot 14:12 <@benryves> Gets a good rating - http://www.otago.ac.nz/philosophy/Staff/JoshParsons/flags/ratings.html#fi :) 14:14 <@Andy_J> well the problem with just storing it in the registry is that anyone can just muck with it 14:15 <@benryves> There will always be way to defeat it, so it's finding the middle-ground between making it trivial to get around (eg registry key) and spending hours on something complex. 14:16 <@Andy_J> Ideally you'd still use a server to manage the licenses 14:16 <@Andy_J> Yeah, it won't be perfect, but there's got to be a decently easy way that is non-trivial to get around. 14:16 <@benryves> I assume you're obfuscating the assemblies? 14:16 <@Andy_J> Probably, I have no idea. He just told me to research this. 14:17 <@E-J> "This is the one whose capital is not Kinshasa." 14:17 <@Andy_J> Just that one of the products they have they'd like to be able to sell on a per-use basis 14:18 <@Andy_J> found a component that says it can do it 14:19 <@Andy_J> a bit too cheap though <_< 14:22 <@E-J> http://www.recordshopx.com/stupido/artist/kernel/ballad_of_linus_torvalds/single/ 14:26 <@benryves> Andy_J: Too cheap? :\ 14:44 -!- pyromania [~pyromania@c-98-228-126-113.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:48 -!- pyromania [~pyromania@c-98-228-126-113.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 14:48 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v pyromania] by efneTI85 14:48 -!- i_c-Y [Icy@cpe-69-204-242-163.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa 14:58 -!- i_c-Y [Icy@cpe-69-204-242-163.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:58 -!- i_c-Y [~Icy@cpe-69-204-242-163.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa 14:59 -!- i_c-Y [~Icy@cpe-69-204-242-163.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:59 -!- i_c-Y [~Icy@cpe-69-204-242-163.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa 15:01 -!- Ox40Work [~KevinK@68-117-29-62.static.fdul.wi.charter.com] has joined #tcpa 15:02 < Ox40Work> and they all be like "yooouuu trooollllinnnn!!!" and im like "Immmm nott troooollllin!" Im Boxxy, you see! 15:03 <@Andy_J> . 15:03 < Ox40Work> /home/ 15:03 -!- Ham\__ [~Netham45@c-71-229-253-50.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 15:03 <@efneTI92> [Ham\__] Narf! 15:03 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Ham\__] by Remius 15:04 < Ox40Work> Hello all 15:05 <@Andy_J> oh god the \__ is spreading 15:05 <@E-J> now we have ham and dam 15:05 <@E-J> twins 15:05 <@Andy_J> dammit Spengo 15:05 <@Andy_J> why did you have to start that :( 15:05 <@benryves> What's the \__? 15:05 <+Ham\__> o.o 15:05 <@E-J> benryves: laptop 15:06 <@Andy_J> supposed to look like a laptop 15:06 <+Ham\__> class is boring 15:06 <+Ham\__> holy crap 15:06 <@Andy_J> \_ would be better IMO 15:06 < Ox40Work> benryves: we should all convert to nickname[] for 'desktop computer' 15:06 <@Andy_J> Ox40Work: we should just ban you for suggesting that 15:06 <@benryves> Andy_J: Agreed. 15:06 < Ox40Work> Ham\__: why not Hamtop? 15:06 <+Ham\__> Ox40Work, it's symbolic for it 15:06 < Ox40Work> Yeah, but why did you have to copy Dam\__ 15:07 < Ox40Work> Dam, Ham. Its very confusing. 15:07 <@E-J> he is a fan 15:07 < Ox40Work> It would be like me converting my nick to Ox40_J 15:07 <+Ham\__> except your last name isn't janta 15:07 <@benryves> Have you managed to work out the difference between E-J and Andy_J yet, for that matter? 15:07 < Ox40Work> benryves: kinad. 15:07 <+Ham\__> I think I have. 15:07 < Ox40Work> *kinda. 15:07 < Ox40Work> One has a longer name. 15:08 <@E-J> but ben doesn't change it 15:08 <@E-J> he is benryves at home and benryves at work 15:08 < sir_lewk> Ham\__: == nethamlaptop? 15:09 < Ox40Work> sir_lewk: yep 15:09 < sir_lewk> cool 15:09 <@benryves> E-J: I'm original like that. :\ 15:09 < Ox40Work> and Netham46 == Netham45 == NethamSvr 15:09 <@benryves> Netham = Internet ham? 15:09 * sir_lewk Lewk\__ 15:09 <+Ham\__> sir_lewk, correct. 15:09 -!- sir_lewk is now known as Lewk\__ 15:09 < Lewk\__> gah 15:09 < Lewk\__> woo 15:09 < Ox40Work> lol 15:10 < Lewk\__> course I'm always on a laptop, so it's kinda redundant 15:10 <@E-J> kids! 15:10 < Milyardo> Mily\__? 15:10 < Lewk\__> hey E-J ! 15:10 < Milyardo> Mil\__? 15:10 < Lewk\__> Mily 15:10 < Lewk\__> sounds cool 15:10 < Ox40Work> amilliamilliamilliamilli 15:10 <+Ham\__> Mily\__ 15:10 <@E-J> i'm now on laptop only because my desktop pc is missing working parts 15:10 <+Ham\__> do it 15:11 <+Ham\__> then go E-J\__ 15:11 < Milyardo> Mily Wily Sily Bily 15:11 <@E-J> of course i use normal keyboard 15:11 < Ox40Work> E-J: that would force you to use a different computer, huh? 15:11 <@benryves> E-J: Did you identify the problem? 15:11 < Lewk\__> A shark at his processor 15:12 < Lewk\__> COMPUTER SHARKS D: 15:12 < Ox40Work> I at a sandwich this morning. 15:12 <+Ham\__> did a shark om nom nom your cpu? 15:12 <@E-J> benryves: 4-year-old psu isn't good enough 15:12 * Lewk\__ eats the ham sandwich 15:12 <+Ham\__> Ox40Work, you at fail this morning. 15:12 <@benryves> E-J: Oh, hm. :( 15:12 < Ox40Work> Ham\__: I beg to differ! PB&J is NOT fail! 15:12 <@E-J> when i put more and more hardware in computer it eventually made bsod 15:12 < Ox40Work> How DARE you! 15:12 <@benryves> Ox40Work: No, it's merely vile. 15:13 < Ox40Work> Ah, E-J is the foreigner. 15:13 <+Ham\__> Ox40Work, you're fail. 15:13 <@Andy_J> /mode +b *\__!*@* 15:13 <@Andy_J> <_< 15:13 < Ox40Work> :) 15:13 < Lewk\__> oh goodness, lets not start this again 15:13 <+Ham\__> NOES! 15:13 <@E-J> Ox40Work: and you are _the_ idiot 15:13 <+Ham\__> I have no altnicks set for my laptop 15:13 <+Ham\__> lol 15:13 <@benryves> Ox40Work: "The foreigner"? How exactly does that work on the Internet? 15:13 < Lewk\__> the american/european pb'j argument has been beating into the ground methinks 15:13 < Ox40Work> benryves: hmmmmmmm, good question. 15:14 < Ox40Work> Lewk\__: ohgod I luvvvv pbpbpb&&&&&&j 15:14 <+Ham\__> benryves, it's the outcast 15:14 <+Ham\__> so it's Ox40Work, obv. 15:14 < Lewk\__> Ox40Work: oh, agreed 15:14 <@benryves> Especially as he's in the country that invented IRC in the first place. 15:14 < Lewk\__> those silly europeans don't know what they are missing 15:14 <@benryves> Lewk\__: And you don't know what it's like to possess working tastebuds. :P 15:14 <@E-J> Ham\__: i don't change nicks everytime i ssh to aski.hut.fi from different computers 15:14 < Lewk\__> course next they'll tell us to put mayonaise on our fries/chips :O 15:14 < Lewk\__> benryves: :P 15:15 < Ox40Work> Lewk\__: sooo true 15:15 <+Ham\__> E-J, not using ssh 15:15 <+Ham\__> well 15:15 <+Ham\__> I have an ssh proxy to my server 15:15 <+Ham\__> and I'm using xchat thru it on my laptop 15:16 < Lewk\__> xchat is pretty decent 15:16 <@E-J> but irssi ftw 15:16 <+Ham\__> it is 15:17 <+Ham\__> irssi sucks, imo. 15:17 < Ox40Work> So, guys. Can you help me decipher WHY and HOW this is supposed to work? http://Ox40.us/drc.PNG 15:17 <@E-J> Ham\__: where does it suck? 15:17 <@E-J> reason that you can't use mouse? 15:17 <@E-J> or is it too easy to configurate 15:18 <@benryves> Ox40Work: Mm, excellent interface design. :\ 15:18 < Ox40Work> benryves: http://Ox40.us/imu.PNG 15:18 < Ox40Work> * http://ox40.us/imu.png 15:18 <@benryves> Heh, Outlook Express? :P 15:19 < Ox40Work> benryves: windows comes with it 15:19 <@benryves> Ox40Work: Doesn't stop you from updating, though. 15:19 < Ox40Work> Why should I? 15:19 < Ox40Work> I dont use it... 15:19 <@benryves> Which is why it's running in your screenshots? 15:20 <@benryves> In any case, Windows no longer comes with it; it's been replaced by Windows Mail which in turn has been updated (and is available on XP) as Live Mail Desktop. 15:20 -!- zeropod [~zeropod@fiber-64.201.86.25.lhtot.com] has joined #tcpa 15:20 <@efneTI92> [zeropod] Look! It's Captain Sarcasm, Master of the Universe! 15:20 < Ox40Work> benryves: which one? 15:21 <@benryves> Ox40Work: The second one. 15:21 < Ox40Work> oh, the oldoldold one? 15:21 < Ox40Work> Thats from months ago... when I first got this terminal. 15:21 <@benryves> I think your notification area is trying to tell you something. 15:22 < Lewk\__> I've yet to find a mail client I find truely usable 15:22 < Lewk\__> mutt is close though 15:22 < Ox40Work> benryves: "Eagl..."? 15:22 -!- zeropod [~zeropod@fiber-64.201.86.25.lhtot.com] has quit [Client Quit] 15:22 < Lewk\__> mutt is actually damn good, I'm just too lazy to set it up 15:23 <@benryves> Live Mail Desktop is decent, even if it does bizarre things on one machine I've got it installed on ("Empty Folder" *deletes* the folder for some bizarre reason). 15:23 < Ox40Work> That is Activant's "Eagle Browser". All of their applications are launched through it. Its Internet Explorer in a different gui with no address bar and everything is done in VB Script 15:23 -!- zeropod [~zeropod@fiber-64.201.86.25.lhtot.com] has joined #tcpa 15:23 <@benryves> Ox40Work: No, notification area. The thing in the right of the taskbar which in your case is full of warning icons. 15:24 < Ox40Work> hahahaha oooh 15:24 < Ox40Work> yeah. 15:24 < Ox40Work> the red one just means "Cant connect to support site", the 2nd one is "Old virus definitions" and the 3rd one is "WTF I be broken yo!" 15:26 <@benryves> And why not? :) 15:27 < Ox40Work> support site? 15:27 < Ox40Work> because I dont have a subscription 15:27 < Ox40Work> it was some 'live chat with people on your website' trial things 15:27 <@benryves> Hrm 15:28 <@Andy_J> hmm, my network drives aren't mounted =/ 15:29 <@Andy_J> I guess because I logged in at home last night and just woke it up here 15:29 < zeropod> work again :( 15:29 < Ox40Work> its even worse when I expand it: http://Ox40.us/bar.png 15:29 <@Andy_J> dammit, it must be a domain controller login thing 15:29 <@Andy_J> I don't see it in msconfig 15:29 * Andy_J relogs :( 15:38 -!- i_c-Y [~Icy@cpe-69-204-242-163.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:40 < Ox40Work> http://Ox40.us/iframe.png 15:44 -!- pyromania [~pyromania@c-98-228-126-113.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:44 < Ox40Work> ^_^ 15:46 <@Andy_J> I hate domain controllers. 15:46 <@Andy_J> It keeps forcing stupid icons onto my desktop and notification area. 15:46 <+Ham\__> I love domain controllers! 15:46 <@Andy_J> I don't need the damn trackpad status icon in my notification area. 15:47 <+Ham\__> my trackpad program crashes alot 15:47 <+Ham\__> and it's annoying as hell, because it causes my mouse to stop working 15:50 < Ox40Work> so, i found out why HTML is so messed up. Look at 3.2 specs: http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html32.html 15:50 <@Andy_J> HTML is so messed up because microsoft can't follow open standards 15:50 < Ox40Work> that too 15:50 <@benryves> *snort* 15:51 < Ox40Work> but, as you can see clearly, the w3c wasnt helping 15:51 -!- Merthsoft [~Shaun@140.141.215.93] has joined #tcpa 15:51 < Merthsoft> benryves: shades of vb6? 15:51 <@Andy_J> lol vb6 15:51 <@benryves> Merthsoft: Yes, using a Timer control to poll a Socket. 15:52 < Merthsoft> it works 15:52 <@benryves> That's the sort of hack a VB6 programmer would use. ;) 15:52 <@Andy_J> Not very well. 15:52 < Merthsoft> hey now 15:52 < Merthsoft> i'm probably just gonna revert back to a thread now that i figured out i was the stupid ForClosing not working 15:53 < Merthsoft> tttt6666666666655ttttcyctttttttttt 15:53 <@benryves> Merthsoft: A Thread or a BackgroundWorker? 15:53 < Merthsoft> which would you suggest? 15:53 < Merthsoft> i've done both at this point 15:54 <@benryves> Neither, I'd suggest using asynchronous sockets. 15:54 <@benryves> But if I had to use one or the other, probably a Thread proper. 15:54 < Merthsoft> fuck the asynchronous sockets 15:54 < Merthsoft> they don't work right 15:54 <@Andy_J> you're doing it wrong. 15:55 < Merthsoft> i have to do three recieves, and the way the asynchronous sockets are set up it just doesn't seem to work that way 15:55 -!- scabby [~scabby@87-194-148-119.bethere.co.uk] has joined #tcpa 15:56 < Lewk\__> you know what I hate? 15:56 < Lewk\__> html formatted email 15:56 < Merthsoft> what? 15:56 < Lewk\__> like seriously, what's the point? 15:57 < Merthsoft> how else would you want it formatted? 15:57 < scabby> what really annoys me is people who use colours to reply to html formatted emails 15:57 < Lewk\__> either send me an email, or make a webpage, not both 15:57 < Lewk\__> plaintext of course 15:57 <+Ham\__> brb 15:57 <+Ham\__> rebooting my laptop 15:57 < scabby> and put at the top 'my comments in green' 15:57 < Merthsoft> how do i do bold then? 15:57 -!- Ham\__ [~Netham45@c-71-229-253-50.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Leaving] 15:57 < Lewk\__> don't 15:57 <@benryves> Lewk\__: How's being a Luddite working out for you? 15:57 < Merthsoft> or underline 15:57 <@Andy_J> I'm kind of forced to use HTML email 15:57 < Merthsoft> or italics 15:57 < Lewk\__> pretty good, my univ mostly uses plaintext :) 15:57 <@Andy_J> the company-wide signature is in blue with some formatting 15:57 < Merthsoft> or hyperlinks 15:57 < Lewk\__> Merthsoft: simple. just don't 15:57 <@Andy_J> and is about 20 lines tall -_- 15:58 < Merthsoft> but that's dumb 15:58 < Lewk\__> no it's not 15:58 <@Andy_J> I hate it, but I can't do anything about it. 15:58 < Merthsoft> that limits communication 15:58 < Lewk\__> nonsense 15:58 <@Andy_J> Except maybe just not set it since Outlook didn't have it set up already 15:58 < Lewk\__> give me a raw link, I'm prefectly cabable of using it 15:58 < scabby> you can set outlook to read all email in plain text anyway, that's what i do 15:58 < Lewk\__> actually, my setup regcognizes them anyways and make them clickable 15:59 <@benryves> At least HTML email is not susceptible to the ugly linebreak issues in plaintext email. 15:59 < Ox40Work> uh... 15:59 < Ox40Work> I just use... email. 15:59 < Lewk\__> I've never seen or heard of ugly linebreak issues 15:59 < Ox40Work> And it works PERFECTLY. 15:59 < Merthsoft> but italics can be used to express various tones. underline and bold both have their purposes in communication 15:59 < Ox40Work> usually HTML email... and I have no reason to not use it... 15:59 <@benryves> Lewk\__: There is a 78-character limit for each line, which means that linebreaks are hard-coded into the text. 15:59 < Lewk\__> ok. fine. 15:59 < Merthsoft> limiting to plain text only is archaic is counter-productive 15:59 <@Andy_J> Merthsoft: so use the plain-text equivalents 15:59 < Lewk\__> lets all use html for IRC too 15:59 < Lewk\__> does that make sense? 16:00 <@Andy_J> *bold*, _underline_, /italic/ 16:00 < scabby> lol 16:00 < Lewk\__> there you go 16:00 < Merthsoft> Andy_J: Once again, archaic 16:00 < Ox40Work> _YES_ that /is/ *very* archaic 16:00 <@Andy_J> Merthsoft: So? 16:00 <@benryves> Lewk\__: No, because IRC is for exchanging brief lines of text, whereas an email is a document. 16:00 <@Andy_J> Documents are attached to email. 16:00 < Merthsoft> so why should we reduce ourselves to that when there is an alternative 16:00 <@Andy_J> The email itself is purely text. 16:01 < Ox40Work> Electronic... Mail. 16:01 < Ox40Work> Mail. Document. 16:01 < Lewk\__> so email me a document as an attachment meant to be read in a real docuement viewer 16:01 < scabby> i'm with andy_j here 16:01 < Ox40Work> Electronic Document. 16:01 < Ox40Work> Hyper Text Markup Language... 16:01 <@benryves> Lewk\__: Like an HTML file? 16:01 < Ox40Work> Hyper Text == Electronic Text... 16:01 < Ox40Work> HTML == Email! 16:01 < Merthsoft> Ox40Work: shut the hell up 16:01 < Lewk\__> afaic, email is about *exchange* of information, not displaying 16:01 <@benryves> Lewk\__: Then why the Hell are you complaining? 16:01 < Merthsoft> so let's do it in binary! 16:01 <@Andy_J> 1000111010101010201010100101 16:02 <@benryves> An HTML email is transmitted in exactly the same way as a plaintext email with an HTML attachment. 16:02 < Merthsoft> 1110000111010101110001101012 16:02 < Lewk\__> benryves: that's what I do best ;) 16:02 < Ox40Work> Andy_J: 2? 16:02 <@Andy_J> EXACTLY! 16:02 <@Andy_J> There's no such thing as 2. 16:02 <@Andy_J> <3 futurama 16:02 < Lewk\__> hahaha 16:02 < Ox40Work> Thats like saying "Im gonna write someone a letter, but im going to make each letter and tape them together instead of writing them on a peice of paper 16:02 -!- Ham\__ [~Netham45@c-71-229-253-50.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 16:02 < Lewk\__> gah, fuckign tftp 16:02 <@efneTI92> [Ham\__] Narf! 16:02 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Ham\__] by Remius, efneTI81 16:03 < scabby> hm we got the day off because of a tiny bit of snow 16:03 < scabby> i went to work anyway but i got bored because noone else was there 16:03 < scabby> now i'm bored at home instead... yay. 16:03 <@benryves> scabby: Ah, another soft Southerner? 16:03 < Lewk\__> you should have stayed at work 16:03 < scabby> no, i'm in leeds.. and it hasn't snowed all day 16:03 < Lewk\__> played with the photocopier all day :) 16:03 < scabby> god knows why we got the day off .. 16:04 < scabby> haha 16:04 <@E-J> scabby: maybe leedsians are jealous of londonians' day off :) 16:05 < scabby> at least i have some beer 16:06 < Lewk\__> hahaha 16:06 < Lewk\__> I semi-bricked a router 16:06 < Lewk\__> so I just swapped it out on the shelve for another 16:06 <+Ham\__> thief 16:07 < Lewk\__> at work nim-node 16:07 < Lewk\__> I'm testing them 16:07 -!- Ham\__ [~Netham45@c-71-229-253-50.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 16:07 -!- Ham\__ [~Netham45@c-71-229-253-50.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 16:07 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Ham\__] by SnowCrash 16:08 -!- Ham\__ [~Netham45@c-71-229-253-50.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 16:08 -!- Ham\__ [~Netham45@c-71-229-253-50.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 16:08 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Ham\__] by SnowCrash 16:09 < Lewk\__> yall alright thar? 16:09 < Lewk\__> laptops blow, use an irssi session somewhere 16:09 < Lewk\__> tis what I do, otherwise you'd be flooded with quit/join messages all day 16:09 -!- pyromania [~pyromania@c-98-228-126-113.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 16:10 <+Ham\__> I was screwing with some xchat settings 16:10 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v pyromania] by Remius 16:10 <+Ham\__> done now tho 16:10 < Lewk\__> oh, coo' 16:10 -!- tsrk [~tsrk@c-67-171-134-156.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 16:10 < Lewk\__> anyways, the router was freaking out, so I reflashed it, then I couldn't get it too boot again 16:10 < Lewk\__> couldn't get the tftp bootloader thing to work either 16:12 < Merthsoft> way to fail! 16:13 < Lewk\__> yeah really 16:24 <+jd19> fo reals 16:28 -!- zeropod [~zeropod@fiber-64.201.86.25.lhtot.com] has left #tcpa [] 16:29 -!- Merthsoft [~Shaun@140.141.215.93] has quit [Ping timeout: 365 seconds] 16:32 -!- Ox40|Work [~KevinK@68-117-29-62.static.fdul.wi.charter.com] has joined #tcpa 16:32 -!- Ox40Work [~KevinK@68-117-29-62.static.fdul.wi.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 372 seconds] 16:35 -!- ports- [~ports@abl13.foods.uiuc.edu] has joined #tcpa 16:35 < ports-> hi 16:35 <@benryves> 'lo ports- 16:37 <+jd19> hi 16:38 <@benryves> 'lo jd19 16:39 -!- kirsk [~krisk@j239072.upc-j.chello.nl] has joined #tcpa 16:39 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v kirsk] by efneTI81, etaonrish 16:39 <+jd19> what is happening 16:39 <@Andy_J> stuff and things 16:40 <@benryves> More things than stuff, really. 16:43 < ports-> ok 16:49 < Lewk\__> I think I should get an amauter radio license 16:49 < Lewk\__> it seems like a really good idea 16:49 -!- Lewk\__ is now known as sir_lewk 16:49 <@benryves> Ham radio? 16:50 < sir_lewk> yeah 16:50 <@benryves> Mmm, ham. :) 16:50 * sir_lewk eats Ham\__ 16:50 < sir_lewk> D: 16:50 < sir_lewk> but seriously, I think I'd learn a lot 16:50 * Ham\__ destroys sir_lewk's stomach 16:51 < sir_lewk> soon lunchtime actually... 16:52 <+Ham\__> speaking of lunch 16:52 <@benryves> Error: Operation completed successfully - my favourite type of error. :D 16:53 <+Ham\__> I got a BSoD with that once 16:53 <+Ham\__> Error: Shutdown Complete 16:57 < ports-> its only 11am 16:57 < ports-> no lunch yet 16:58 <+kirsk> i smiled at a girl today and she smield back :o 16:59 <+jd19> i'm staying at work for lunch today... 17:01 <+jd19> i smile at older women sometimes and they smile back 17:01 <+kirsk> yay 17:01 <@benryves> Bearing their teeth <> smiling. 17:02 <@benryves> Baring, even, unless they have the teeth of a bear - which would be doubly worrying. 17:02 <+kirsk> true 17:02 < sir_lewk> <> ? 17:02 < sir_lewk> < || > ? 17:02 <@benryves> sir_lewk: Not equal. 17:03 < sir_lewk> oh 17:03 < sir_lewk> != ;P 17:03 <@benryves> ≠ if we're being pedantic. 17:03 <@Andy_J> not in basic :p 17:03 <@benryves> Nor in SQL. 17:03 < sir_lewk> ah :) 17:03 <@Andy_J> using pedantic; 17:03 < sir_lewk> C is so ingrained into my head, whenever I see a '!' I think 'not' 17:04 -!- i_c-Y [~Icy@dhcp03.ee.cooper.edu] has joined #tcpa 17:04 <@benryves> BASIC tends to use bitwise instead of logical operators, for that matter (which is why TRUE is usually -1). 17:06 -!- JoelS [~JSeligste@outbound285a.pasd.tfbnw.net] has joined #tcpa 17:06 <@benryves> Or, in other words, NOT in BASIC is C's ~ rather than its !. :) 17:06 < sir_lewk> BASIC is to COMPLICATED for me :P 17:07 <@benryves> Hehe 17:08 <@benryves> Then VB comes along and messes everything up with its ugly lazy operators AndAlso and OrElse (which, to my mind, are backwards - AndAlso and OrElse look like they wouldn't be lazy). 17:09 <@_Auron_> old but funny: http://www.somethingawful.com/flash/shmorky/babby.swf 17:14 < sir_lewk> Ugly languages annoy me 17:14 < sir_lewk> I really think C++ is far uglier than C 17:14 <@benryves> sir_lewk: Which is why you like Perl, right? 17:14 < sir_lewk> well no, perl is really bad that way too ;) 17:15 < sir_lewk> both have strongpoints so I put up with it though 17:15 < sir_lewk> hmm, python I always thought was ugly too, most people seem to disagree though 17:15 -!- Barrett [~berto_cha@75-165-225-65.slkc.qwest.net] has joined #tcpa 17:16 <@benryves> Python has a certain elegance, but the whitespace thing rubs me up the wrong way. 17:16 < sir_lewk> I've never used any of the .Net languages enough to make a fair assertion there, but I think java is decently pretty 17:16 <@benryves> Functional languages tend to be elegant, though. 17:16 < sir_lewk> yeah, those are pretty 17:16 < sir_lewk> python code looks way too much like prose to me I think 17:16 <@benryves> C# and the .NET framework class library borrow very heavily from Java with a few of the bigger WTFs removed. 17:17 < sir_lewk> hmm, I'd probably be ok with them then 17:17 < sir_lewk> Java is pretty C-ish, OO is nicely slipped in under the radar I think 17:17 < Barrett> why would you even discuss this? There's no reason to use anything other than perl 17:17 < sir_lewk> now actually *using* java it's a completely different story. it practically sodomizes you with OO 17:18 < sir_lewk> we were discussing BASIC, then benryves mentioned ugly operators in VB 17:18 < sir_lewk> and I started thinking about how pretty certian langauges are 17:19 <@benryves> C# adds functional language features like lambda expressions, eg SomeList.Sort((a,b) => a.Length.CompareTo(b.Length)) to sort a List by length. 17:20 <@benryves> My problem with the VB ones is they don't really make logical (hur) sense; "x AndAlso y" implies to me that it checks x and y also. 17:21 <@benryves> (AndAlso is analogous to && in C; regular And is &). 17:24 < sir_lewk> && and things like that make much more sense to me that horribly verbrose stuff like "AndAlso" 17:25 < sir_lewk> if you've programmed C for more than the last weekend, && is just as instantly recognizable 17:25 < sir_lewk> and if you haven't, then verbrose operators probably arn't going to help you understand my code ;) 17:25 <@benryves> Hehe 17:25 <+Ham\__> bbl 17:25 -!- Ham\__ [~Netham45@c-71-229-253-50.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Leaving] 17:26 <@benryves> Limited punctuation makes keyword makes sense. 17:26 <@Andy_J> VB just sucks period :p 17:28 < sir_lewk> there was some article somewhere that showed some C code someone had written where everything was #defined to the point of looking like FORTRAN or something 17:28 <@benryves> sir_lewk: http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/The_Secret_to_Better_C.aspx 17:28 < sir_lewk> like #define BEGIN { 17:28 < sir_lewk> ah yes :) 17:28 <@benryves> Also remember that BASIC was historically interpreted 17:28 < sir_lewk> I think I saw it somewhere else, but yeah 17:29 < sir_lewk> yeah 17:29 -!- Netham45 [~Netham45@c-71-229-253-50.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:29 <@benryves> It's easier and faster for the interpreter to handle discrete tokens for NEXT, REPEAT, LOOP, ENDWHILE and so on instead of trying to work out what you mean by } 17:29 -!- Netham45 [~Netham45@c-71-229-253-50.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 17:29 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Netham45] by efneTI81 17:30 < sir_lewk> '#define do_nothing' LOL 17:30 <@Andy_J> #define forever while(true) 17:30 < sir_lewk> yeah :) 17:30 <@benryves> Andy_J: Bah, #define ever ;; 17:30 <@Andy_J> ha 17:30 <@Andy_J> no 17:30 < sir_lewk> I do use while(1) quite a bit though 17:30 < sir_lewk> haha 17:31 <@Andy_J> #define ever (;;) 17:31 <@Andy_J> for ever 17:31 < sir_lewk> lol 17:31 <@benryves> I always use for(;;) { }, less typing. :P 17:31 <+prime_> #define CURLY_OPEN_BRACE { 17:31 <@Andy_J> while (true) makes more logical sense 17:32 <@benryves> Both are easily recognisable idioms, though. 17:32 <@Andy_J> yes 17:32 <@Andy_J> for (;;) requires slightly more thought 17:32 <@benryves> I guess this is where we need BASIC's DO...LOOP ;) 17:32 <@Andy_J> WHILE...WEND 17:32 < sir_lewk> do-while loops kick ass 17:33 <@benryves> Andy_J: Which dialect is that? 17:33 <@Andy_J> qb/vb 17:33 <@benryves> Looks like you need a condition, sadly. 17:34 <@benryves> The condition is optional in DO...LOOP :) 17:34 <@Andy_J> yeah but then you don't use the WEND keyword 17:34 < sir_lewk> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1114221&cid=26711475 17:35 -!- Merthsoft [~Shaun@140.141.215.93] has joined #tcpa 17:35 <@benryves> 'lo Merthsoft 17:36 < Merthsoft> hi 17:38 < sir_lewk> the skin on my elbow is really dry 17:42 <+jd19> it rubs the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again 17:44 < sir_lewk> lol 17:44 < sir_lewk> that was a good movie 17:45 < sir_lewk> book too 17:45 <@benryves> Are the sequels (prequels?) any good? 17:46 <+jd19> i've never seen/read any of them 17:46 < sir_lewk> I've heard the movies arn't as good 17:46 < sir_lewk> I saw one of the sequel movies, had the same hannibal but didn't have Jodie Foster 17:46 < sir_lewk> it was good, not great 17:51 < Merthsoft> oh man this song we're doing in wind ensemble is so cool 17:51 < Merthsoft> everyone go find Vientos Y Tango by Gandolfi 17:52 < JoelS> Merthsoft: did you complete a puzzle? 17:52 < Merthsoft> ah fuck 17:52 < Merthsoft> no... 17:52 < Merthsoft> i hate school... 17:52 < JoelS> :D 17:54 < sir_lewk> I do all my songs with songsmith 17:54 <@benryves> Rocking, sir_lewk. :D 18:01 -!- Ham\__ [~Netham45@c-71-229-253-50.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 18:01 <@efneTI92> [Ham\__] Narf! 18:01 <@_Auron_> ugh it's already noon 18:01 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Ham\__] by efneTI89 18:02 < Merthsoft> ah this song is soooo cool 18:02 <+Ham\__> Now Playing: Oingo Boingo - Hey! [6:59/7:44] 128kbps - 44Khz 18:02 <+Ham\__> <3 my laptop 18:02 <+Ham\__> it fits in my pocket, and makes an awesome MP3 player 18:02 < Merthsoft> what kind of laptop you got Ham\__? 18:03 <+Ham\__> Lenovo Ideapad S10 18:04 <+Ham\__> http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=4620 18:06 < sir_lewk> oh, sexy 18:08 <+prime_> something tells me it doesnt run far cry 2 well 18:12 <@Andy_J> Apparently there is a heat vent behind my desk as it is rather toasty in here today 18:14 <+jd19> this room is an oven 18:14 <+jd19> it's always warmer in here than in the rest of the building for some reason 18:15 <+Ham\__> prime_, something tells me you're insane if you try playing an FPS on the touchpad it has. 18:15 <+Ham\__> it's like 1/2 inch 18:15 <+Ham\__> impossible to aim at a target over 3' feet away 18:16 <+Ham\__> too low res. 18:17 < sir_lewk> pfft, just spray 18:17 <+Ham\__> lol 18:17 < sir_lewk> nobody actually uses touchpads for fps's anyways 18:17 < sir_lewk> trackpoints perhaps, but real mice win 18:17 <+Ham\__> yea 18:19 <+Ham\__> I want to try a touchscreen tho 18:20 < sir_lewk> gorilla arm syndrom FTL 18:20 < sir_lewk> touchscreens are worthless on anything but shit like iphones 18:20 < sir_lewk> and even then they are toys 18:21 <@benryves> sir_lewk: Surface is pretty cool 18:21 <@benryves> But that is a toy, yes. 18:21 < sir_lewk> mmhm 18:21 < sir_lewk> if it's something you work down on, then it can work 18:21 <+kirsk> Surface was kinda fun 18:21 <+kirsk> the kid is annoying though 18:22 < sir_lewk> wat 18:22 * sir_lewk -> lunch 18:24 * Ham\__ is at lunch 18:24 <@Andy_J> late lunch 18:25 <+Ham\__> ii:25 here 18:25 <+Ham\__> 11:25... 18:25 <+Ham\__> wow, fail. 18:25 <@Andy_J> wtf does "new" mean in a method declaration O_o 18:26 <@benryves> Andy_J: Hides the inherited method. 18:26 <@Andy_J> yay, keyword overloading. 18:27 <@Andy_J> TreeView treeView = TreeView; 18:27 <@Andy_J> wow. 18:27 * Andy_J boggles. 18:27 <@benryves> new TreeView(); ? 18:27 <@Andy_J> no 18:27 <@Andy_J> that apparently does something useful. 18:28 <@Andy_J> TreeNode apparently has a field of type TreeView named TreeView. 18:29 <@Andy_J> Confusing much? 18:29 <@Andy_J> Not sure why this method is explicitly getting a local variable for it 18:30 <@E-J> http://naurunappula.com/kuvat/224798/heavy_metaaaaal 18:32 <@benryves> Andy_J: Field? o_O 18:32 <@benryves> Nope, it's a property. 18:33 <@Andy_J> Whatever. 18:33 <@Andy_J> You can't tell that from the tooltip :p 18:34 <@Andy_J> I keep forgetting scroll wheel focus doesn't follow the cursor on windows :( 18:34 <@benryves> Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't; depends on the app. 18:35 <@Andy_J> I'm not seeing that behavior between vs, outlook, putty, and firefox in any switching order 18:35 -!- Ham\__ [~Netham45@c-71-229-253-50.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:35 -!- Ham\__ [~Netham45@c-71-229-253-50.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 18:36 <+kirsk> you can enable it with tweakui 18:36 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Ham\__] by Remius, etaonrish 18:36 <@Andy_J> I don't want keyboard focus to follow mouse. 18:36 <@Andy_J> Just scroll wheel focus. 18:36 <@benryves> Andy_J: Windows Live Mail and Opera do it, at any rate. 18:37 <+Ham\__> everything I use does that 18:37 < i_c-Y> damn it 18:37 <+Ham\__> except for my stupid touchpad software 18:37 <+Ham\__> that causes it all to break 18:37 <+Ham\__> =/ 18:37 < i_c-Y> i hate it when i'm insulting someone, then someone interrupts me, then i forget who i was insulting 18:37 <+Ham\__> I know! That sucks so much! 18:38 < i_c-Y> "Fans of furries and anime-style cat girls will be disappointed by the news that attempts to create human animal hybrids have failed. Experiments by British scientists to create embryonic stem cells by putting human DNA into cow or rabbit eggs had raised ethical concerns, but the question of how we would treat sub-humans will have to wait until we actually figure out how to make them." 18:38 < i_c-Y> poor furryfire 18:38 <@Andy_J> lol 18:39 <@chronomex> okay wtf 18:39 <@chronomex> human-animal hybrids? 18:40 <+kirsk> <3 snakechick 18:40 <@chronomex> only you ... 18:40 <+Ham\__> lol 18:45 <@Andy_J> Interesting idea. 18:45 <@Andy_J> <_< 18:45 <@Andy_J> >_> 18:46 -!- pyromania [~pyromania@c-98-228-126-113.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:47 -!- pyromania [~pyromania@c-98-228-126-113.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 18:47 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v pyromania] by SnowCrash 18:51 <@_Auron_> I had $25 in change :X went to the coinstar to convert that into quick useable money so I could get gas and food today 18:52 -!- Ham\__ [~Netham45@c-71-229-253-50.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 372 seconds] 18:52 -!- _Digital [~DC@pool-71-165-124-42.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: _Digital] 18:58 <+kirsk> http://orz.4chan.org/wg/src/1233672820626.jpg 18:59 <@_Auron_> file not found 18:59 <@_Auron_> it's already gone :P 19:00 <+kirsk> huh it was on page one 19:00 <+kirsk> oh well 19:00 <+kirsk> http://nataliedee.com/041407/wheelchair-ramping.jpg 19:01 <@_Auron_> lol 19:02 <@Andy_J> <3 coinstar 19:02 < i_c-Y> fuck coinstar 19:02 < i_c-Y> do it at your bank 19:03 < i_c-Y> cause coinstar deducts 19:03 < i_c-Y> your bank wont 19:03 <@benryves> Aren't Coinstar those silly machines that take a percentage for themselves? 19:03 <@benryves> Er, what i_c-Y said. :P 19:03 <+kirsk> http://zip.4chan.org/tv/src/1233687330382.gif 19:04 < sir_lewk> wow 19:04 < sir_lewk> I would like 5 minutes in a dark alley with whoever designed the XML/html comment tag 19:04 < sir_lewk> what a pita to use 19:04 <@benryves> Heh 19:05 < sir_lewk> hell, even vim is better, they use: " 19:06 <+kirsk> use whatever comments you want, filter, render 19:07 -!- Merthsoft [~Shaun@140.141.215.93] has quit [Ping timeout: 365 seconds] 19:08 <+kirsk> you know, basic weightlifting equipment should be covered by healthcare insurance 19:08 <+jd19> it should be, yes 19:08 <+kirsk> and they should tax the unfit more 19:09 <+jd19> aside from small children, lifting weights is beneficial for everyone 19:09 <+kirsk> yes 19:09 <+kirsk> and it would probably actually safe a lot of healthcare costs 19:09 <+kirsk> combined with a decent diet 19:09 <+jd19> it adds muscle, burns fat, what's to not like? 19:10 <+kirsk> strengthens bones releases happy hormones 19:10 * _Auron_ is watching Bleach from the beginning 19:10 <+jd19> i am actually planning on lifting tonight 19:10 < reppy> i'm sorry Auron :( 19:10 <+kirsk> nice 19:10 <@_Auron_> sorry for what? 19:10 <+jd19> since i played basketball last night 19:10 <+kirsk> i ordered the Barbarian Line pwoerrack with bench and barbbell with weights :D 19:10 < reppy> I dunno.. why not watch an anime that's good with the added benefit of not being 200+ episodes? :P 19:11 <+jd19> how much did that cost you 19:11 <+kirsk> 800 euros : ( 19:11 <+jd19> damn 19:11 <+kirsk> yeah 19:11 <+jd19> well you get what you pay for i guess 19:11 <+kirsk> i hope so, gyms here are hopeless 19:11 <@_Auron_> reppy: I like bleach? :P 19:12 <+jd19> we have some nice gyms around here, but i don't have a membership to any 19:12 < reppy> I watched a few eps and it seemed cool but I just can't watch something that goes much further past 50 episodes .. 19:12 <+jd19> i sneak into my old college though 19:12 <+kirsk> nice 19:12 < reppy> that's an investment :P 19:12 <+jd19> i just put on some stuff with the college logo on it and carry in a bookbag and no one questions me 19:12 <@_Auron_> heh, at UTA they don't let you in without a valid school ID that's current 19:12 <+kirsk> there are a bunch of gyms in this city, only 2 even have a powerrack afaik and evne then they just have one and are crowded overpriced and clueless 19:13 <@_Auron_> 24 hour fitness is just down the street from me 19:13 <+kirsk> most gyms here have dumbbells up to 36kg a smith machine for squatting and a ban on deadlifts and olys 19:13 <+kirsk> huge cardio and machine rooms though 19:14 <+jd19> like ten 24 hr. gyms have popped up here in the last 1-2 years 19:14 <+kirsk> but why people would pay 40-50 euro a month to jog on a rolling belt inside a room is beyond me 19:14 <@_Auron_> o.o 19:14 <@_Auron_> 40-50 euros? 19:15 <@_Auron_> shit 19:15 <+kirsk> the expensive ones sure 19:15 <@_Auron_> it's only like $40/month here 19:15 <+kirsk> you can get some cheaper ones at 25 a month but most people take the extra features 19:15 <+kirsk> like being able to train more often than 3 times a week 19:16 <+kirsk> i like how the cardio machines are in front of the window looking outside 19:16 <+jd19> i'd rather watch a tv i think 19:16 <+kirsk> you would think that would help them realise they could travel 2 meters and do the same workout for free 19:16 <+jd19> to be honest, i do not like running at all 19:16 <+jd19> i like to play a sport and do a lot of running 19:16 <+kirsk> outside in fresh air not on a machine that kills their joints 19:17 <+jd19> but if there is no purpose besides running just to run, i don't like it 19:17 <+kirsk> i agree 19:17 <+jd19> it's very hard to motivate myself to go running 19:17 <+kirsk> i give sprints the benefit of the doubt because HIT is awesome, but steady state cardio is just retarded imho 19:17 <+kirsk> *JHIIT 19:17 <+kirsk> *HIIT, ffs 19:17 <+jd19> oh i can do sprints, i dont mind that at all 19:18 <+jd19> well i dont like it as much as playing a game of basketball though 19:18 <+kirsk> yeah 19:18 -!- pyromania [~pyromania@c-98-228-126-113.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 19:19 <+jd19> do you play any sports kirsk 19:21 <+kirsk> nah i dont like the obligations involved with playing in a club and stuff 19:22 <+jd19> yeah but you're in school right 19:22 <+kirsk> i like to play sports but with friends on a random field or beach or something just for fun though 19:22 <+kirsk> finishing college yeah 19:22 <+jd19> i work 8-5 mon-fri so if i dont sign up to do something once or twice a week, i go nuts 19:23 <+jd19> gotta get away from my gf and kid too sometimes heh 19:23 <+kirsk> fair enough 19:23 <+kirsk> hehe 19:24 <+kirsk> i try to have fun with football or beachball or something during the summer when chilling with friends 19:24 <+jd19> beachball? 19:24 <+jd19> is that volleyball or what 19:25 <+kirsk> erm idk just football on a beach 19:25 <+kirsk> soccer 19:25 <+kirsk> football is more awesome but you need more players for that 19:25 <@benryves> kirsk: Five-a-side? 19:25 <+kirsk> for example, 2v2 doesnt really work 19:26 <@benryves> 2v2 = table football. :D 19:26 <+kirsk> yessss 19:26 <+kirsk> but 2v2 works ok with soccer 19:27 <+kirsk> not that i really aim to play that stuff id rather just chill and lift 19:30 <+jd19> i played basketball in a 3 vs. 3 league last night with two 20 min. halves 19:30 <+jd19> it was the first time i had played in a game in almost a year, i was dead tired 19:30 <@benryves> I haven't done any sports in about... 4 years? :\ 19:31 <+prime_> wow 19:31 <+prime_> that..sucks 19:31 <+kirsk> at all? 19:32 <@benryves> No 19:32 <+prime_> wow 19:32 <+jd19> not even like throwing a tennis ball for the dog? 19:32 <+prime_> geeze, im going to paypal you some money for a tennis racket or something 19:32 <@benryves> Heh, why prime_? 19:33 <+prime_> you need to do something 19:33 <@benryves> Always hated tennis (and football, and rugby, and cricket, and volleyball, and every other bloody sport they made us do). 19:33 <@benryves> Cross-country running wasn't so bad, though. 19:34 <+jd19> i'm a bad loser, and a pretty competitive person 19:34 <+prime_> i think i'm going to burn a few calories today 19:34 * prime_ tosses benryves in the oven 19:34 <@benryves> prime_: Oven? 19:34 <+prime_> to burn you 19:35 <@benryves> Why? :P 19:35 <+prime_> what, you want to go to the gas chamber first? 19:35 <+prime_> <+prime_> i think i'm going to burn a few calories today 19:35 <+prime_> <@benryves> I haven't done any sports in about... 4 years? :\ 19:35 <+prime_> i think those two explain it 19:36 <@benryves> Does that imply I'm full of calories, then? 19:36 < sir_lewk> I think so D: 19:37 * benryves isn't even sure what a calorie is :\ 19:37 <@benryves> Other than an oldschool measurement of energy. 19:37 <+prime_> you did take chemistry right? 19:37 <@benryves> Triple science then Physics at A Level 19:38 <@benryves> Wikipedia says "Since the many different definitions are a source of confusion and error, all calories are now deprecated in favour of the SI unit for energy, the joule." 19:38 <+kirsk> what different definitions anyway 19:39 <@E-J> it's still used here alongside joule 19:39 <+prime_> i need one of these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soxhlet_extractor 19:40 <+kirsk> coffee filter? 19:40 <+prime_> heh 19:41 <@E-J> benryves: for "kalori" (finnish word of calory/ie) dictionary also gives word "metric heat unit" 19:42 <@benryves> E-J: Fair enough, can't say I've ever encountered the buggers. :P 19:43 <+prime_> oh wait 19:43 <+prime_> you are from the UK? 19:43 <@benryves> Yes. 19:44 <+prime_> well your labels have both joules and kcals 19:44 <@benryves> Labels on what? :\ 19:44 <+prime_> food 19:44 <@benryves> Oh, right. :D 19:46 <@_Auron_> lol 19:47 <@_Auron_> hum, need to leave for work in an hour or so 19:47 * _Auron_ goes to shower 19:47 <+kirsk> bah work 19:55 -!- Dam\__ [~winterven@216.117.122.113] has joined #tcpa 19:55 -!- Dam\__ [~winterven@216.117.122.113] has quit [Client Quit] 19:55 -!- Dam\__ [~winterven@216.117.122.113] has joined #tcpa 19:59 -!- zeropod [~zeropod@fiber-64.201.86.25.lhtot.com] has joined #tcpa 19:59 <@E-J> prime_: in finland they have both, but GDA is in kcal 20:00 <@efneTI92> [zeropod] Look! It's Captain Sarcasm, Master of the Universe! 20:02 -!- zeropod [~zeropod@fiber-64.201.86.25.lhtot.com] has quit [Client Quit] 20:03 -!- benryves [~benryves@79-72-88-136.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Quit: benryves] 20:08 -!- ports- [~ports@abl13.foods.uiuc.edu] has quit [Quit: You know, it's the first time someone suggested I go in that direction!] 20:11 -!- Dam\__ [~winterven@216.117.122.113] has quit [Quit: "No reason remains for us to stay." (0AD)] 20:21 -!- Dam\__ [~winterven@216.117.122.113] has joined #tcpa 20:45 -!- pyromania [~pyromania@c-98-228-126-113.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 20:45 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v pyromania] by efneTI92 20:53 <+kirsk> so... 20:55 < Ox40|Work> ...os 20:56 <@Andy_J> where's the 'add email' option hiding in facebook now? 20:57 <+prime_> people still use facebook? 20:57 <@Andy_J> I can only seem to find the 'change contact email' option 21:00 -!- rivereye [~Rivereye@c-24-11-113-194.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 21:00 <@efneTI92> [rivereye] Is it time to go fishing? 21:00 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v rivereye] by efneTI86, efneTI80 21:02 -!- Dam\__ [~winterven@216.117.122.113] has quit [Quit: "No reason remains for us to stay." (0AD)] 21:03 <+jd19> maybe you can only have a maximum number of contact emails? 21:03 <+jd19> i'm not really sure 21:09 <+kirsk> how do you people survive work 21:09 <+kirsk> ive had one day after a long time of being free and i already want to quit 21:11 <+jd19> i survive by knowing i have bills to pay 21:11 <+jd19> and a family to support 21:11 <+jd19> and i get to irc while i work 21:12 <+kirsk> i want to blow my brain out the moment i wake up to go to work 21:12 <+jd19> me too 21:13 <+jd19> but i go anyway 21:14 <+kirsk> feels weak 21:14 <+jd19> just get done lifting? 21:14 <+kirsk> rack arrives in 3-7 days 21:14 <+jd19> oh, so you aren't doing anything until then? 21:15 <+kirsk> no lifting no 21:15 -!- TD-Linux [~wheeeeeee@96-42-68-26.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com] has joined #tcpa 21:16 <+kirsk> not doing any chick that time either 21:17 <+jd19> thats unfortunate 21:17 <+kirsk> jup 21:23 <+jd19> you are on a neverending quest for ladies 21:23 <+jd19> it seems 21:23 <+kirsk> 1 lady 21:23 -!- Dam\__ [~winterven@216.117.122.113] has joined #tcpa 21:23 <+jd19> bussgirl? 21:24 <+jd19> why do you call her bussgirl 21:24 <+kirsk> that would be ideal, but i mean 1 is enough 21:24 < Dam\__> She's a girl that rides the bus? 21:24 <+kirsk> because she was on the same bus to college for a while just after i noticed her for the first time at the end of highschool 21:25 < Dam\__> Sort of like how Tubgirl is a girl that is... er, well... in the tub. 21:25 <+kirsk> exactly 21:25 <+kirsk> she's also kruidvatmeisje but that doesnt work in english 21:25 <+jd19> oh 21:25 <+jd19> i guess the two s's threw me off 21:26 <+kirsk> i guess i slipped and used two s's when you noticed 21:29 <+jd19> heh, i just didnt know if buss meant something else 21:30 <@E-J> kirsk: herb barrel girl? 21:30 <+kirsk> lulz 21:30 <+kirsk> its a store name 21:32 <@E-J> ah 21:32 <@E-J> in finnish that would be yrttitynnyrityttö (lot's of y:s) 21:35 -!- Ham\__ [~Netham45@c-71-229-253-50.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 21:35 <@efneTI92> [Ham\__] Narf! 21:35 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Ham\__] by efneTI81, efneTI85 21:35 <+Ham\__> lol 21:35 <+Ham\__> wtf 21:35 <+Ham\__> my laoptop connected to some random wifi 21:35 <+Ham\__> while I'm waiting for like 5 minutes on the bus 21:37 < sir_lewk> cool 21:37 < sir_lewk> look up bomb making and cool stuff 21:37 <+jd19> score 21:37 <+jd19> lol 21:38 <+Ham\__> lol 21:38 <+Ham\__> I'm on the school wifi 21:38 <+Ham\__> signed in 21:38 <+Ham\__> just didn't realize I was connected 21:39 <+Ham\__> noew 21:39 <+Ham\__> noes* 21:39 <+Ham\__> the bus is leaving 21:39 <+Ham\__> bbl 21:39 -!- Ham\__ [~Netham45@c-71-229-253-50.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 21:40 < sir_lewk> nooooooooooooooooooooooooo 21:40 <@E-J> his school doesn't have real host? 21:40 < sir_lewk> guess not 21:40 < sir_lewk> actually, I don't think my HS did either 21:41 < sir_lewk> Netham45 is a senior in highschool right now I think 21:41 <@E-J> hmm, i'm not sure if mine had, though it was 9-11 years ago 21:41 <@E-J> it had web pages 21:42 <@E-J> and we got emails firstname.lastname@vantaa.fi 21:42 <@E-J> or was it vantaa-vaskivuori.fi 21:43 <@Andy_J> I think my high school had centcath.neo.rr.com 21:43 <@Andy_J> regardless, that isn't NXDOMAIN 21:44 <@Andy_J> I think there was crusader.stark.k12.oh.us at some point too, but that is NXDOMAIN now 21:44 <@Andy_J> for the T1 line 21:45 -!- ports- [~ports@abl13.foods.uiuc.edu] has joined #tcpa 21:45 <@E-J> hmm web page has still same UI as back then http://www.vantaa-vaskivuori.fi/english.php 21:47 <@E-J> layout* 21:48 -!- Dam\__ [~winterven@216.117.122.113] has quit [Quit: "No reason remains for us to stay." (0AD)] 21:50 -!- Tyler2 [~nexon@residence-204-172.henday.ualberta.ca] has joined #tcpa 21:50 <@efneTI92> [Tyler2] I no longer speak fluent dialup. 21:51 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Tyler2] by efneTI89, Remius 21:53 * sir_lewk goes home 21:54 -!- tsrk [~tsrk@c-67-171-134-156.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:58 -!- scabby [~scabby@87-194-148-119.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:00 -!- Hunterkll [~Hunterkll@dynamic-acs-24-112-135-245.zoominternet.net] has joined #tcpa 22:00 < Hunterkll> Barrett, did the domain get straightened out? 22:11 -!- tsrk [~tsrk@c-67-171-134-156.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 22:11 <+Netham45> sir_lewk, junior in HS. 22:11 <+Netham45> also, my school does have a real host 22:12 <+Netham45> I tunnel for IRC and such 22:13 < Spengo> wtf is up with hard drives these days 22:13 <+Netham45> what? 22:13 < Spengo> all the $100-ish 1TB ones have terrible reviews about them dying all the time 22:13 < Tari> the seagates have some firmware issue, I hear 22:13 <+Netham45> oh 22:13 <+Netham45> that's why I just use the 250GB SATA ones I have 22:14 <+Netham45> I canibalized one of my 10TB arrays for all the HDs in it 22:14 <+Netham45> 40 250GB SATA HDs 22:14 < Spengo> I may only be able to afford a 750GB if I want a halfway decent one ith perpendicular recording 22:14 <+Netham45> now my desktop has like 1.5TB in it 22:15 <+Netham45> and I have a bunch of spares 22:20 < Tari> hmm 22:21 < Tari> surpass doesn't have anything in their TOS about how you can't store copyrighted content on their servers 22:21 < Tari> only mentions what's publically available 22:35 <+Netham45> In mother russia, Поиск в Интернете 22:35 <+Netham45> ^ that line got me g-lined from gamesurge when I told it to an oper. 22:35 <@chronomex> hah 22:35 <@chronomex> what was the ????? ? ????????? ? 22:35 <+Netham45> russian 22:35 <+Netham45> we were having 'In Mother Russia' wars 22:36 <@chronomex> oh 22:37 <@E-J> is that alone questionmark reversed R or reversed N? 22:37 -!- ports- [~ports@abl13.foods.uiuc.edu] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 22:38 <@E-J> reversed N is "i" and reversed R is "ja" 22:38 <@E-J> or "ya" 22:40 < Ox40|Work> Поиск в Интернете!!!! 22:40 <+kirsk> ok 22:41 -!- glk [glk@adsl-70-234-96-67.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net] has joined #tcpa 22:47 <+Netham45> e-j, go to www.google.ru 22:47 <+Netham45> it's the text directly right of the leftmost checkbox 22:48 < Hunterkll> Spengo, I got a 1TB WD MyBook in january, it's still fine 22:48 < Hunterkll> both of them are 22:48 < Hunterkll> a MyBook essentials (The shitty USB only one) 22:48 < Spengo> I'm lookin at OEM internal drives 22:49 < Hunterkll> *Shrug* 22:49 < Hunterkll> i'm sure WD internals and externals are the same drive 22:49 < Hunterkll> in fact 22:49 < Hunterkll> those mybooks have coffee rings on the side 22:49 < Hunterkll> :3 22:49 <@E-J> Netham45: ah, that's "v" in human letters 22:49 < Spengo> I know they are the same 22:49 < Spengo> the 3.5" ones anyway 22:49 < Hunterkll> man 22:49 < Hunterkll> I paid 22:49 < Hunterkll> $400 for these two terabytes 22:49 < Hunterkll> in january 22:50 < Spengo> lmao 22:50 < Hunterkll> good deal, even today it's still about normal price 22:50 < Spengo> what 22:50 < Spengo> no 22:50 <+Netham45> man 22:50 <+Netham45> I got 30 TB for free 22:50 <+Netham45> a year and a half ago 22:50 < Spengo> 1TB is about $100 nowadays Hunterkll 22:50 < Hunterkll> Spengo, as an external unit? 22:50 < Spengo> no 22:50 < Spengo> but external enclosures are cheap 22:50 < Hunterkll> actually 22:50 < Hunterkll> lowest price i'm seeing for the mybooks 22:50 < Spengo> you don't have to buy them with a drive already in you know 22:50 < Hunterkll> is $233 a peice 22:50 < Hunterkll> I have several 22:50 < Hunterkll> at the time 22:50 < Hunterkll> 1TB was cheaper in a premade enclosure 22:51 < Hunterkll> in january of last year 22:51 < Hunterkll> January 2008 22:51 < Hunterkll> ah 22:51 < Hunterkll> here we go 22:52 < Hunterkll> $145.99 now 22:52 < Hunterkll> okay 22:52 < Hunterkll> so $300 for these units 22:52 < Hunterkll> still 22:52 < Hunterkll> two harddrives and only a 25% loss in value? that's amazing 22:52 -!- i_c-Y [~Icy@dhcp03.ee.cooper.edu] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 22:53 < Spengo> buying computer compenents and expecting them to be a good investment price-wise is dumb 22:53 < Spengo> 6 months it will be another $50 cheaper anyway 22:53 < Spengo> lol 22:53 < leofox> stupid hardwares dropping in prices 22:54 < Tari> I got 2x400GB drives end of summer or something 22:55 <@chronomex> aw, that's too bad 22:55 <+kirsk> a friend of mine just bought 2 16gb drives for 300 euro 22:55 < Tari> for.. ~70% the cost of a 320GB now 22:56 < Tari> so, win 22:56 <@chronomex> I blew $400 on 3x160 a while ago 22:56 < Tari> kirsk, SSD? 22:56 <@chronomex> still spinning, though, and not nearly full, so whatever 22:56 < Tari> exactly, chronomex 22:56 <+kirsk> yes Tari 22:56 <+kirsk> :P 22:56 < Hunterkll> Spengo, I didn't expect it to be a good investment price wise 22:56 < Hunterkll> I was just like 22:56 < Tari> 227 GB free on the striped array I made with those 22:56 < Hunterkll> "woah, wait, my harddrives RETAINED value?!" 22:57 <@chronomex> Tari: .... raid0? what? 22:57 < Hunterkll> Raid 1E ! 22:57 < Hunterkll> Raid 0+1E 22:57 <@chronomex> you crazy 22:57 <@chronomex> 1E? 22:57 < Hunterkll> chronomex, you need an expensive raid card 22:57 -!- kirsk [~krisk@j239072.upc-j.chello.nl] has quit [User excited] 22:57 < Hunterkll> like an IBM ServeRAID 4H 22:57 < Hunterkll> minimum :x 22:57 <@chronomex> yeah 22:57 < Hunterkll> it's an ibm mode 22:57 <@chronomex> I suppose so 22:57 < Hunterkll> striping and mirroring 22:57 < Hunterkll> across odd numbered drives 22:57 <@chronomex> okay 22:57 < Hunterkll> so like 22:57 < Hunterkll> 3 drives + a hot spare 22:58 <@chronomex> ah 22:58 < Hunterkll> instead of needing even numbers of drives 22:58 < Hunterkll> but right now i'm just running massive sun boxen 22:58 < Hunterkll> :/ 22:58 <@chronomex> what's wrong with sun? 22:58 <+Netham45> my dad works for sun 22:59 <@chronomex> I'm transitioning to using an Ultra 80 for me desktop 23:01 <@chronomex> it's quite nice 23:01 <@chronomex> except the USB keyboard doesn't work 23:01 <@chronomex> Hunterkll: my 240G raid5 is at 56% used 23:02 < Hunterkll> heh 23:02 < Hunterkll> I never said anything was wrong with sun 23:02 < Hunterkll> just 23:02 < Hunterkll> when i say massive 23:02 < Hunterkll> i mean 23:02 < Hunterkll> massive 23:02 < Hunterkll> quad UltraSPARC IIi's, 20 HDDs, rated at 5,000 BTU/hr 23:02 < Hunterkll> E450s, use 'em as bedside tables (one per side) 23:02 < Hunterkll> ^_^ 23:02 <@chronomex> ha 23:02 <@chronomex> 20 hdds :O 23:03 <@chronomex> your parents must go batshit over the power draw 23:03 <+Netham45> heh 23:03 < Hunterkll> 78gig 15krpm 23:03 < Hunterkll> chronomex, well, they would if I ever shut my computers off for a few days... 23:03 <+Netham45> the arrays I have are massiver. :D 23:03 < Hunterkll> they'd be like WAT FK? 23:03 <@chronomex> hah 23:03 < Hunterkll> Netham45, but they're 15k rpm? 23:03 <+Netham45> Hunterkll, 12K, iirc. 23:03 < Hunterkll> 10k, then 23:03 < Hunterkll> 15krpm drives, a 78 gigger is $100 23:03 <+Netham45> sounds right 23:04 < Hunterkll> 10k is borderline consumer 23:04 < Hunterkll> my drives are all pure scsi thoroughbreads <3 23:04 <+Netham45> I have 80 250GB running right now 23:04 < Hunterkll> congrats? 23:04 <+Netham45> and 30 sitting in a box 23:04 < Hunterkll> bet you i can ddos your harddrives with my harddrives 23:04 < Hunterkll> :D 23:04 <+Netham45> bet you you could 23:04 <+Netham45> they bottleneck at my shitty controller 23:04 < Hunterkll> this E450 is like a mianframe in terms of bandwidth and throughput 23:04 < Hunterkll> heh 23:04 < Hunterkll> one controller? :P 23:04 <+Netham45> I can only get 4GB/s off of them 23:04 <@chronomex> awww 23:05 < Hunterkll> for 20 drives I have 5 controllers. :D 23:05 < Hunterkll> in each E450 23:05 <+Netham45> lemme remind you that this was free 23:05 < Hunterkll> the E250 has 2 controllers for six drives 23:05 < Hunterkll> and the 250R has 2 controllers for 2 drives 23:05 < Hunterkll> the V100 is just two IDE drives 23:05 < Hunterkll> the Ultra 5 is just... one ide 23:05 < Hunterkll> hm 23:05 <@chronomex> aww 23:05 <@chronomex> ide makes the baby jesus cry 23:06 <+Netham45> only IDE I have is my DVD drive 23:06 <+Netham45> everything else I have is SATA 23:06 < Hunterkll> SATA dosn't count 23:06 <@chronomex> ^ 23:06 < Hunterkll> it's IDE in a different wrapper p much 23:06 <@chronomex> real SCSI is the only way to prove that you're a real man 23:06 < Hunterkll> when you're running Ultra320 and fibrechannel you can come talk to me 23:06 < Hunterkll> now 23:06 < Hunterkll> SAS counts 23:06 <@chronomex> I bet you use Linux too, Netham45 23:06 <+Netham45> chronomex, fuck no 23:06 < Hunterkll> but just because the connect's the same, dosn't mean you're running in SAS mode. :P 23:06 < Hunterkll> lol windows user 23:07 <+Netham45> Windows Server on all my stuff. :D 23:07 < Hunterkll> .... 23:07 < Hunterkll> wow 23:07 <@chronomex> lol windows 23:07 < Hunterkll> .... 23:07 <+Netham45> I was actually just about to put up another windows 2008 server 23:07 < Hunterkll> !k Netham45 WINDOWS USER 23:07 -!- Netham45 was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [hunterkll: WINDOWS USER] 23:07 -!- Netham45 [~Netham45@c-71-229-253-50.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 23:07 < Netham45> to handle SSTP VPNing 23:07 < Hunterkll> heh 23:07 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Netham45] by efneTI89 23:07 < Hunterkll> my E250R has a VPN accelerator card in it 23:07 < Hunterkll> ;p 23:07 <+Netham45> yea 23:07 <+Netham45> well 23:07 <+Netham45> I'm putting it on an old laptop! 23:07 <@chronomex> my Ultra 80 has a SunPCi card in it 23:07 <+Netham45> I'm recycling! 23:07 < Hunterkll> chronomex, so does my E250, lol 23:07 <@chronomex> :X 23:08 <@chronomex> do you use it? 23:08 < Hunterkll> it has 128MB ram 23:08 < Hunterkll> and a 400mhz K6 or something 23:08 <@chronomex> yeah 23:08 < Hunterkll> not yet >:3 23:08 <@chronomex> :P 23:08 < Hunterkll> god 23:08 < Hunterkll> i love how 23:08 < Hunterkll> the E450 has three PSU Units 23:08 * Netham45 wonders off to get his WDS server running 23:08 < Hunterkll> that are hot swappable 23:08 < Hunterkll> and one psu unit 23:08 <@chronomex> ~http://www.chrisyates.net/reprographics/comics/112thepostaldisservice.jpg 23:08 < Hunterkll> probably weighs as much as netham's desktop 23:08 < Hunterkll> :D 23:08 <@chronomex> :P 23:08 <+Netham45> damnit 23:08 <+Netham45> I have too many passwords 23:09 < Hunterkll> gg 23:09 < Hunterkll> I use smartcard authentication across the board 23:09 < Hunterkll> my laptop even has a built in CAC reader 23:09 < Hunterkll> er 23:09 < Hunterkll> damn 23:09 <+Netham45> I use a system close to that at home 23:09 < Hunterkll> wow 23:09 < Hunterkll> SmartCard reader 23:09 <+Netham45> with USB memory sticks 23:09 < Hunterkll> CAC is a type of smartcard 23:09 < Hunterkll> oh wow 23:09 < Hunterkll> we put certificatres on memory sticks 23:09 < Hunterkll> taht's not even close 23:09 < Hunterkll> smartcards have challenge/response systems and crypto processors inside the card 23:09 < Hunterkll> :D 23:10 <+Netham45> yea I know 23:10 <+Netham45> but 23:10 <+Netham45> I'm not teribally worried 23:10 < Hunterkll> I am. 23:10 < Hunterkll> :_D 23:10 <+Netham45> omg, someone might break into my house and IRC under my name! 23:10 <+Netham45> lol 23:10 < Hunterkll> omg someone might break into my house and steal my laptop with classified information on it 23:10 <+Netham45> or maybe they'll watch a movie! 23:10 < Hunterkll> <3 23:10 <+Netham45> see, I don't have access to classified info. 23:10 <+Netham45> probabally for good reasons. 23:11 < Hunterkll> I shouldn't, but they gave me a clearance when I enlisted anyway and it's still there, so. :D 23:11 < Hunterkll> WHY AM I 20? 23:11 <+Netham45> heh 23:11 < Hunterkll> I DON'T WANT TO BE 20 23:11 < Hunterkll> THAT MEANS I'M SUPPOSED TO BE RESPONSABLE 23:11 < Hunterkll> DAMNIT 23:11 <+Netham45> most classified info I have access to is ~1000 students grades 23:11 < Hunterkll> I got a friend who works at the NSA 23:11 < Hunterkll> stationed there with the army 23:12 < Hunterkll> his quit message is brb wiretapping you 23:12 < Hunterkll> ;) 23:12 <+Netham45> lol 23:12 <@chronomex> hah, nice 23:12 <+Netham45> once again, not worried about that, heh. 23:12 <+Netham45> the worst the gov't will see is me trolling over IRC 23:13 < sir_lewk> NETHAM45 DID 9/11!!! 23:13 < Hunterkll> HEY DAN I HOPE YOU READ THIS I'M GOING TO NUKE FORT MEADE 23:13 < Hunterkll> HEY DAN I HOPE YOU READ THIS I'M GOING TO NUKE FORT MEADE 23:13 < Hunterkll> (AFTER YOUR DIVISION REHIRES ME OF COURSE) 23:13 * Netham45 waves 23:13 < sir_lewk> HEY! YOU THERE! YES, YOU THE NSA ANALYST. 23:13 < sir_lewk> YOUR MOM 23:13 < Hunterkll> I would not be surprised if I was under survelince. 23:13 * chronomex waves too 23:13 <+Netham45> IS A WHORE 23:13 < sir_lewk> LULZ 23:14 < Hunterkll> I applied for a few clearance required jobs :p 23:14 < sir_lewk> nice 23:14 <+Netham45> I have the clearance of an average highschool student 23:15 <+Netham45> as in, I can barely view the balance on my checking account 23:15 < sir_lewk> haha 23:15 <@chronomex> !qadd I have the clearance of an average highschool student | as in, I can barely view the balance on my checking account 23:15 <@efneTI86> Quote 1516 added 23:15 <@chronomex> !q 23:15 <@efneTI86> 1194: Us normal people watch House, Nikky.| haha, house| what an awesome theme song| and what a crappy show| You're an idiot.| And that shows it. [Added: Merthsoft at 2008/02/03 21:42] 23:16 <+Netham45> NOES! 23:16 <+Netham45> my server only recovered the vista RIS settings 23:16 <+Netham45> damnit 23:16 < leofox> !quoteurl 23:16 <@efneTI86> http://tcpa.aardy.net/quotes/ 23:16 < leofox> someone added a rickroll to the last.fm roosbeef page 23:16 * Netham45 grumbles 23:16 < leofox> SOME THINGS ARE SACRED PEOPLE 23:16 < leofox> YOU DO NOT MESS WITH ROOSBEEF 23:16 <+Netham45> I had like 15 install images addes... 23:17 <+Netham45> oh 23:17 <+Netham45> recovered Windows Server 08 too 23:17 <+Netham45> which is the one I wantes 23:17 <+Netham45> wanted 23:17 <+Netham45> so for now, things are good. 23:18 <+Netham45> I gotta readd xp, 2000, 2k3, and Fedora now tho. :( 23:25 -!- Dam\__ [~winterven@216.117.122.113] has joined #tcpa 23:26 -!- Netsplit hub.se <-> irc.pte.hu quits: blankie 23:28 < TD-Linux> I can count the number of facebook friends I have on two hands 23:29 <+Netham45> congrats? 23:29 < Dam\__> Well, I can on one. (Do I win? :P) 23:29 <+Netham45> I can too 23:29 <+Netham45> 0 23:30 <+Netham45> don't have a facebook 23:31 -!- pen [~myname@d207-6-186-113.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #tcpa 23:32 < TD-Linux> in binary that is 23:34 -!- Netham46 [~Netham45@c-71-229-253-50.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 23:34 <@efneTI92> [Netham46] Narf! 23:34 < Netham46> fuck you router 23:35 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Netham46] by Remius 23:35 <+Netham46> "HAY U CHANGED A SETTING I'M GOING TO FUCKING REBOOT HAHAHAHA" 23:35 < Dam\__> What kind do you have? 23:36 <+Netham46> WRT54G 23:36 <+Netham46> with DD-WRT on it 23:38 < Hunterkll> lol? 23:38 < Hunterkll> i just use the included software 23:38 < Hunterkll> :D 23:40 -!- Netham45 [~Netham45@c-71-229-253-50.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 372 seconds] 23:41 -!- Netham46 is now known as Netham45 23:41 -!- Merthsoft [~Shaun@140.141.215.93] has joined #tcpa 23:41 <+Netham45> I got quite a performance boost off of dd-wrt 23:42 < leofox> FFS 23:42 < leofox> Ajax lost against Heracles 23:42 < leofox> in the ArenA 23:42 < leofox> van Basten is losing any chance at the championship at this rate 23:42 <+Netham45> die please. 23:43 < leofox> oh, they didnt lose 23:43 < leofox> they scored even 23:43 < leofox> it's still a loss of points, they shouldve won that match 23:45 < Hunterkll> leofox, by the by, my usual nick on the other network is Raiden... was hunterkll until I got MGS4 heh 23:45 < Hunterkll> but i've switched back to hunterkll now 23:46 < leofox> oh thats why i couldnt fijnd you 23:46 < leofox> are you even there atn? 23:47 < Hunterkll> yes.. 23:47 < Hunterkll> .oper'd under raiden normal user under hunterkll 23:47 < leofox> not in #whyweprotest 23:47 < Hunterkll> opered on a leaf instead of the hub at the moment while we renovate the network 23:48 < leofox> oh there you are 23:48 < Hunterkll> that's not the only channel in the network, you nkow:p 23:48 < Hunterkll> serving 361 current users 23:48 < Hunterkll> :X 23:48 < leofox> I know, i go to #dutch 23:50 < Hunterkll> #fm is loads of fun 23:51 < Hunterkll> especially when i repeatedly clear users or chankill it 23:51 < Hunterkll> ;D 23:51 < leofox> xD 23:51 <+Netham45> anyone have experience with WDS here? 23:51 < Hunterkll> sigh 23:51 < Hunterkll> only on cisco hardware 23:52 <+Netham45> well 23:52 <+Netham45> I had it working perfectly, then I moved my DHCP server to the PC that WDS is on(from another DC in the same domain) and now I can't get it to work at all. 23:53 < Hunterkll> wait 23:53 < Hunterkll> what do you mean by WDS 23:53 <+Netham45> Windows Deployment Services. 23:53 <+Netham45> PXE boot that lets you install windows 23:53 < Hunterkll> RIS you mean 23:53 < Hunterkll> :P 23:53 < Hunterkll> And 23:53 < Hunterkll> i thought you were talking about the WiFi meshing stuff 23:53 < Hunterkll> my bad :p 23:53 <+Netham45> nope, heh. 23:53 <+Netham45> it's not called RIS anymore 23:54 < Hunterkll> and check your dhcp leases it's handing out 23:54 < Hunterkll> I KNOW 23:54 < Hunterkll> and check your dhcp leases it's handing out 23:54 < Hunterkll> all the info being passed 23:54 < Hunterkll> make sure it's configured right 23:54 < Hunterkll> :"p 23:54 -!- Dam\__ [~winterven@216.117.122.113] has quit [Ping timeout: 369 seconds] 23:54 <+Netham45> hmm 23:54 <+Netham45> doesn't look like DHCP is working 23:54 < Hunterkll> geee : 23:55 <+Netham45> didn't check it for soem reason 23:56 <+Netham45> hmm 23:56 <+Netham45> everythings configured right... 23:56 <+Netham45> as far as I can tell 23:56 < Hunterkll> look HARDER 23:57 <+Netham45> for WHAT 23:57 -!- NovaYoshi [~NovaYoshi@pool-71-127-94-116.aubnin.fios.verizon.net] has joined #tcpa 23:57 * Hunterkll screams and hollars and suddenly smoke on the water starts playing from the deep purple album lol 23:57 < NovaYoshi> :3 23:57 <+Netham45> Dun dun dunnn dun dun dun dun 23:57 < NovaYoshi> Followed the link in my copy of Phoenix 23:57 -!- Merthsoft [~Shaun@140.141.215.93] has quit [Ping timeout: 202 seconds] 23:57 < Hunterkll> lol 23:57 < Hunterkll> that's eons ago 23:57 < Hunterkll> eons old 23:57 < Hunterkll> I don't think pad is here right now 23:57 < Hunterkll> but you can talk to us 23:57 < Hunterkll> ;D 23:57 < sir_lewk> ROFL 23:58 < NovaYoshi> Well, I only got my TI-84 Plus Silver last Christmas... 23:58 < NovaYoshi> So it's new to me 23:58 < Hunterkll> hehe 23:58 < Hunterkll> people still buy ti calculators? :( 23:58 < sir_lewk> my friend just emailed this to me, (slightly NSFW maybe): http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/4753/calculatorsfh0.jpg 23:58 * Hunterkll shoots HPs marketing deparmtent 23:58 < NovaYoshi> Yeah 23:58 < NovaYoshi> I got mine just for the games I can play on it 23:58 < NovaYoshi> And now I enjoy them in class 23:58 < Hunterkll> HP49G+ <3 23:58 < Hunterkll> comes with a french leather case 23:58 < sir_lewk> hells yeah 23:58 < Hunterkll> and it is a little faster and has an SD cardslot 23:59 < Hunterkll> and can be overclocked to 250mhz 23:59 < Hunterkll> >_>;; 23:59 < sir_lewk> I bet that picture is of krisk --- Log closed Wed Feb 04 00:00:14 2009