--- Log opened Fri Jan 30 00:00:12 2009 00:00 < Spengo> I gotta run to class 00:00 < Spengo> bbl 00:01 < Desensiti> peace 00:01 < millinao> dual monitors ftw 00:02 < Nikky> I love dual monitors 00:02 < millinao> ...... 00:02 < Nikky> although mine are getting kind of aged 00:02 <+kirsk> single > triple > dual 00:02 < millinao> Dual monitors suck 00:02 < Nikky> I don't recall saying that. 00:02 < millinao> oh god 00:03 < millinao> i bet you're like this in person 00:03 < Nikky> Dell 2007WFPs are getting old though :( 00:03 < Nikky> millinao: Wanna find out? 00:03 < millinao> whenever anyone says something, you just say "X sucks" 00:03 < millinao> ya 00:04 < millinao> come down this weekend 00:04 < millinao> go to powells 00:04 < millinao> preferrebly sunday 00:04 < Nikky> k 00:05 < Nikky> I always go to Powells during the summer 00:05 < millinao> haha really 00:05 < Nikky> yeah 00:05 < Nikky> stock up on books for the next year 00:05 < millinao> btw did you ever buy artemis fowl the GN 00:06 < Nikky> hell yes 00:06 < Nikky> I got that at powell's, actually 00:06 < millinao> is it good 00:06 < Nikky> not bad 00:06 < Storm|wrk> Hey I'm looking at setting up some gigabit networking, any suggestions when it comes to switches/routers? 00:06 < Nikky> it's basically the first book in GN form, but I like how it shows what cofler imagined them 00:07 < millinao> classic netgear and onboard network card 00:07 < millinao> DO IT 00:07 < Nikky> DO IT 00:10 < aardvarq> DO HER 00:10 < Nikky> zomg aardvarq 00:11 < millinao> wait since when does aardvarq talk 00:12 < Dam\__> millinao: Since 06:10:38 PM, CST. 00:13 < millinao> "hey guys look at me i'm pedantic man" 00:15 < Merthsoft> ok people who know C: Is there something wrong with this: http://tcpa.pastebin.com/m65a96dc? 00:15 < Merthsoft> http://tcpa.pastebin.com/m65a96dc9 * 00:16 < Merthsoft> it seems to fail when i have 3 things in the array, and i try to remove the 0th element... 00:18 < millinao> anyone know of a thing that would generate all possible leetspeak combinations for a word? 00:19 < Desensiti> what editor should i use for a trugray image editor? 00:19 < millinao> so for "hello" it would be h3||0, h3||o, h3l|o, etc 00:20 < Dam\__> Nope, but that sounds like something I could write up in C++. 00:20 < millinao> my password for something is some variant and i can't figure it out 00:21 < Dam\__> Desensiti: On-calc or off-calc? 00:22 < Desensiti> off calc 00:23 < Desensiti> i tried both paint and photoshop 00:23 < Desensiti> both mess it up 00:24 < Dam\__> I remember there being a plug-in somewhere for GIMP... 00:26 -!- zeropod [~zeropod@fiber-64.201.86.25.lhtot.com] has quit [Quit: brbbl] 00:26 -!- zeropod [~zeropod@fiber-64.201.86.25.lhtot.com] has joined #tcpa 00:31 < Dam\__> Finally, after many years, Catalyst now supports playing video under a composite environment without flickering. 00:35 < Nikky> whoo 00:35 < Nikky> actually 00:36 < Nikky> all you had to do is change vlc 00:36 < Nikky> s oputput to x 00:36 < Nikky> iirc 00:36 <+kirsk> eww vlc? 00:37 < Dam\__> I wonder if I can change that for Totem/ 00:37 < Dam\__> s:/:.: 00:37 < Nikky> no idea 00:37 < Nikky> I hate vlc too 00:37 < Nikky> but I use it on my laptop because of that 00:38 < Nikky> well, I did 00:38 < Nikky> I turned off compoisiting because it messed with suspend/hibernate 00:40 -!- Desensiti [~Desensitz@ip98-169-72-48.dc.dc.cox.net] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 00:40 -!- mtgrss111 [~Administr@c-98-194-46-169.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 00:40 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v mtgrss111] by efneTI86 00:42 -!- ports_ [~ports@64.146.49.170] has joined #tcpa 00:46 -!- TD-Linux [~wheeeeeee@65.165.173.1] has joined #tcpa 00:46 <+kirsk> what is fistycuffs? 00:46 < Dam\__> A fight with fists. 00:46 < millinao> its fisticuffs 00:47 <+kirsk> good i was right 00:48 < millinao> note to self: NEVER again fill out crap information onto your accounts 00:48 <+mtgrss111> damn straight 00:49 <+kirsk> accounts? 00:49 < Dam\__> What happened? 00:49 < millinao> hahaha mtgrss111 00:49 < millinao> i lost my guild wars account with all 3 games 00:49 <+mtgrss111> he can't remember his MMORPG login info 00:49 < millinao> granted one was free 00:49 <+kirsk> oh thats good 00:50 < millinao> i wonder if there's a brute-forcer or something 00:52 < millinao> what are my chances of calling them and asking if they can give me the password 00:53 -!- TD-Linux [~wheeeeeee@65.165.173.1] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:54 <+kirsk> cant you do something like i forgot my password email it to me lulz button 00:55 < millinao> I 1. can't get into the email that i signed up for it with, 2. can't get into the other account that i would have to do that do email it 00:56 -!- Netsplit ny.us.hub <-> irc.blessed.net quits: @Andy_J 00:56 < millinao> hahaha 00:57 < Nikky> See ya andy 00:57 < Nikky> !t Welcome to #TCPA - The United States of TCPA | http://tcpa.calcg.org/ | Andy_J is lamesauce 00:57 -!- efneTI86 changed the topic of #tcpa to: Welcome to #TCPA - The United States of TCPA | http://tcpa.calcg.org/ | Andy_J is lamesauce 00:57 < Nikky> Where is your god noq 00:57 < Nikky> now 00:57 < Nikky> shit 00:58 < Nikky> http://xxxchurch.com/blogs/parents/didyougetyourkidspornforchristmas.html 00:58 < Nikky> KIDS WATCHING PORN ON THEIR PHONES 00:58 < millinao> hahaha 00:58 < Nikky> I like how it's "buy a filter" 00:59 < Nikky> Not "get a free filter" 00:59 < ports_> ok 00:59 < Dam\__> *Cracks up.* 01:00 < millinao> i like how this guy compares a car crash to discovering porn 01:00 <+kirsk> well both end in a mess 01:00 -!- pyromania [~pyromania@c-98-228-126-113.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00 < millinao> hahaha 01:01 -!- Netsplit over, joins: @Andy_J 01:01 -!- irc.blessed.net changed the topic of #tcpa to: Welcome to #TCPA - The United States of TCPA | http://tcpa.calcg.org/ 01:01 -!- Zarel [~Zarel@x-128-101-185-183.reshalls.umn.edu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:02 <+mtgrss111> i don't like the assumption that if my parents bought me any of that stuff porn would be my primary objective. 01:03 < Nikky> !t Welcome to #TCPA - The United States of TCPA | http://tcpa.calcg.org/ | Andy_J is lamesauce 01:03 -!- efneTI86 changed the topic of #tcpa to: Welcome to #TCPA - The United States of TCPA | http://tcpa.calcg.org/ | Andy_J is lamesauce 01:04 < Nikky> stupid bblessed.net 01:04 < Dam\__> mtgrss111: Well, clearly, it is because the Internet is for porn. 01:04 < Nikky> Hate Avenue Q 01:04 < Nikky> That was the worst song in the show! 01:04 -!- Storm|wrk [~chatzilla@rrcs-67-53-130-2.west.biz.rr.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.5/2008120122]] 01:04 < millinao> <3 avenue Q 01:04 < Nikky> suck it holmes 01:04 < millinao> i think shadenfreude was the best 01:05 < Nikky> yeah 01:05 < millinao> i'm probably going to see it this summer 01:06 < millinao> i loved it sucks to be me though 01:06 < Nikky> it sucks to be you 01:06 < Nikky> so have you met Spengo yet? 01:06 < millinao> it sucks to be youuuu 01:06 < millinao> nope 01:07 < Nikky> You should 01:07 < millinao> i haven't met any internet friends 01:07 < Nikky> chronomex and I can come too~ 01:07 < millinao> k 01:07 < Nikky> orgy? 01:07 < millinao> maybez 01:07 < Nikky> wait 01:07 < Nikky> you're like 15 01:07 < millinao> hahaha 01:07 < Nikky> illregal 01:07 < millinao> jb 01:09 < millinao> yeah since i'm underage we'll have to go out for juiceboxes or something 01:13 <@_Auron_> lol 01:13 <@_Auron_> we should do a tcpa meetup 01:14 < Dam\__> Does L33T always use all-caps for letters? 01:14 < Dam\__> Or are some of them lower-case, too? 01:14 < millinao> it's not standardized 01:14 < Nikky> I hear that your mom is a commie 01:15 < millinao> I hear that you are a commie 01:16 -!- zeropod [~zeropod@fiber-64.201.86.25.lhtot.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:16 -!- zeropod [~zeropod@fiber-64.201.86.25.lhtot.com] has joined #tcpa 01:18 -!- TD-Linux [~wheeeeeee@65.165.173.1] has joined #tcpa 01:21 -!- kirsk [~krisk@j239072.upc-j.chello.nl] has quit [User excited] 01:21 < Nikky> zeropod: sorry about that 01:21 < Nikky> I didn't know you were zeromus! 01:21 < zeropod> Nikky: ?? 01:21 < Ox40> hai Nikky 01:22 < zeropod> really? 01:22 < Nikky> yeah 01:22 < zeropod> damn 01:22 < Nikky> I removed the zeropod account tho 01:23 < zeropod> thanks 01:23 < Merthsoft> zeropod = zeromus? 01:23 < Nikky> and gave you ops 01:23 < Merthsoft> = CDI? 01:23 < Nikky> Did Netham45 ever get that server thing figured out? 01:23 < zeropod> !k Netham45 test 01:23 -!- Netham45 was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [Zeromus: test] 01:23 -!- Netham45 [~Netham45@c-71-229-253-50.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 01:23 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Netham45] by etaonrish 01:23 < zeropod> yup, that's me 01:24 < Merthsoft> why is Andy_J lamesause? 01:24 < Merthsoft> ce 01:24 < Nikky> Cause he is 01:24 <@Andy_J> ? 01:24 < Ox40> Netham45: autorejoin. 01:24 <@Andy_J> oh 01:24 * Andy_J slaps Nikky 01:24 < Nikky> :) 01:24 < Nikky> Ox40: It's fine, he's a test kicktoy. 01:25 < Nikky> Although I usually suggest using you for that 01:25 < Merthsoft> !k Ox40 test 01:25 -!- Ox40 was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [Merthsoft: test] 01:25 < Nikky> it works! 01:25 <@chronomex> Nikky: you said I can come too 01:25 <@chronomex> ... where? 01:25 < Nikky> meet millinao and Spengo 01:25 -!- Ox40 [~Ox40@adsl-75-44-34-251.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #tcpa 01:25 <@chronomex> I've already met Spengo 01:26 < Merthsoft> where are we coming? 01:26 < Ox40> what? 01:26 < Nikky> On a remote pacific island 01:26 < millinao> and have fun orgies 01:26 < millinao> oh wait nevermind 01:26 < zeropod> !k ox40 yup 01:26 -!- Ox40 was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [Zeromus: yup] 01:26 < Merthsoft> if there's gonna be a meetup out west, wait till i'm there 01:26 < Nikky> k 01:26 <@chronomex> why? 01:26 < Nikky> it would be summer anyway 01:26 -!- Ox40 [~Ox40@adsl-75-44-34-251.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #tcpa 01:26 < Merthsoft> sweet 01:26 < Ox40> >>> 01:27 < Nikky> I'd rather be a kicktoy than banned for trolling 01:27 < Nikky> So that's the deal 01:27 < Ox40> Nikky: we cant kick you... 01:27 < Nikky> Right. 01:27 < Merthsoft> I can 01:27 < Ox40> :P 01:27 < Nikky> But I'm also the official channel troll. 01:27 < Ox40> Ok, guys.... http://75.44.34.251/buku 01:27 <@_Auron_> has anyone played saint's row 2? 01:27 < Ox40> what do you see? 01:28 < Dam\__> "foo." 01:28 < Nikky> lots of twisted gay sex 01:28 < Merthsoft> bar 01:28 < Nikky> you disgusting perv 01:28 < Nikky> dogs should not be used like that 01:28 < Ox40> Dam\__: great... 01:29 < Ox40> Now, why can't I route every request to index.php? 01:29 <+Netham45> god damnit 01:29 <+Netham45> Exchange is kicking my ass 01:29 < Nikky> Use perl 01:29 < Ox40> Nikky: this has nothing to do with PHP or Perl 01:29 < Nikky> ye it does. 01:29 <+Netham45> :{:|:}: 01:29 < Nikky> You're using PHP 01:30 < Nikky> The server detected this, and is screwing up. 01:30 < Nikky> Because it knows PHP sucks. 01:30 < Nikky> It's really doing you a favor. 01:30 < millinao> i bet he's using ROR 01:30 < Ox40> Wow, your trolling has really dropped a level. :( 01:30 < Nikky> millinao: probably 01:30 < Nikky> That seems like something he'd do 01:30 < Ox40> ROR? 01:30 < Ox40> RewriteRule ^.*$ index.php [NC,L] 01:30 < millinao> i have a book about it 01:30 < ports_> hehe 01:30 < ports_> NSFW http://www2.victoriassecret.com/commerce/onlineProductDisplay.vs?namespace=productDisplay&origin=onlineProductDisplay.jsp&event=display&prnbr=CJ-205523&page=1&cgname=OSSLPVALFAF&rfnbr=5932 01:30 <@_Auron_> I'll take that as a no 01:31 < millinao> it's like "look at all this can do!" and i'm like "so you can do THIS, and THIS ONLY. scalability fail" 01:31 < Ox40> Dam\__: Im surprised you didnt take off the /buku and start messin with my lights.... 01:31 < Nikky> millinao: haha 01:31 < millinao> i don't like magic 01:32 <+Netham45> then I'm like fuck I can't send email :( 01:32 < Dam\__> Ox40: Did it work? 01:32 * Netham45 beats Exchange with a mallot 01:32 <@_Auron_> installing 11GB takes awhile x.x 01:32 < millinao> ports whats so great about that link 01:32 < Ox40> Dam\__: only if my oven was on 01:32 < Ox40> sorry :P 01:32 < ports_> she was nice enough to mark the target 01:32 < ports_> her pooper 01:32 <@_Auron_> wat 01:33 < Ox40> Dam\__: does /buku/ work for you? 01:33 < Nikky> Better than a cousin 01:33 < millinao> we get it, she's attractive. no one cares 01:33 * Netham45 screams and runs into a brick wall. 01:33 < Dam\__> Ox40: Nope, now I get an error five hundred. 01:33 < Ox40> :( 01:33 < Ox40> all I did was put that rewrite rule in .htaccess 01:33 < Nikky> You're the worst server administrator ever 01:34 < Nikky> goddamn 01:34 < millinao> hahaha 01:34 < Nikky> Even Netham45 knows how to do it 01:34 < Ox40> Nikky: What have I done wrong? 01:34 < Nikky> And he's retarded 01:34 < Ox40> If you say using PHP i will kill you 01:34 < Nikky> Using PHP, obv. 01:34 < Ox40> Seriously, I will hunt you down and destroy your head with a sledge hammer. 01:34 <+Netham45> Using Apache is more of an issue,tho. 01:34 < Nikky> Even ports_ knows that, and he's retarded 01:34 < Ox40> Netham45: stfu 01:34 <+Netham45> Iis++; 01:34 < ports_> im not retarded 01:35 <@_Auron_> everyone calm the fuck down and shut the fuck up. 01:35 < ports_> _Auron_, fuck off :P 01:35 < Nikky> yeah, shut the fuck up 01:35 < Nikky> fuckers 01:35 < Ox40> Netham45: oh shut up 01:35 * _Auron_ hugs nikky 01:35 < ports_> stop swearing 01:35 < Ox40> iis sucks completely 01:35 <+Netham45> Ox40, IIS is awesome 01:35 < ports_> Andy_J, will bitch a fit and kick you 01:35 < Nikky> IIS is amazing. 01:35 <+Netham45> IIS7* is awesome 01:35 < Ox40> Netham45: only if you are a WindowsBitch 01:35 <+Netham45> IIS6- sucks ass 01:35 < Nikky> I agree with Netham45 01:35 < Ox40> Good 01:35 < Nikky> version 7 is godlike 01:35 < Dam\__> I *swear* I will stop this fucking car! 01:35 < Ox40> Netham45: a troll agrees with you. congrats. 01:35 -!- Merthsoft [~Shaun@140.141.215.93] has quit [Ping timeout: 202 seconds] 01:35 < Ox40> lol Dam\__... 01:35 < Ox40> :) 01:36 <@_Auron_> Dam\__: you're an idiot, die. 01:36 <+Netham45> Ox40, I feel so accomplished! 01:36 * Ox40 is done arguing with trolls 01:36 < Ox40> :P 01:36 < Nikky> Netham45: Want to be my assistant troll? 01:36 < Ox40> oh damnit 01:36 < Ox40> -_- 01:36 < Nikky> Ox40 applied, but i don't think he has what it takes 01:36 < Ox40> NOT what we need! 01:36 <+Netham45> Nikky, what's my starting payrate? 01:36 < Nikky> in return you'd get ops 01:36 <+Netham45> ooh, nice perks. 01:36 < Nikky> and free reign to kick Ox40 01:36 <@_Auron_> ............. 01:36 < Dam\__> _Auron_ is loading, please wait. 01:36 <+Netham45> where do I sign? on that dotted line? 01:36 < ports_> Nikky, stfu 01:36 < Nikky> Actually, that'd be an awesome eggdrop script 01:37 < Ox40> lol Dam\__ 01:37 < ports_> you dont get assistant trolls 01:37 < Nikky> that lets anyone kick Ox40 01:37 < ports_> you are my assistant 01:37 <+jd19> ports is the head troll 01:37 < Nikky> I like ports_ though 01:37 < millinao> all you guys are douchebags i never troll 01:37 < ports_> most people do 01:37 <@_Auron_> trolls vs. humans 01:37 < ports_> millinao, i fucked your sister 01:37 <+prime> he did 01:37 <@_Auron_> round 1 01:37 <@_Auron_> ding 01:37 < Nikky> true 01:37 < Nikky> we all saw it 01:38 < Dam\__> It was on YouTube. 01:38 < millinao> I don't have a sistar 01:38 <+prime> it was on youtube til they deleted it 01:38 <+Netham45> Nikky, Ok, I accept your proposal. 01:38 < Nikky> too late 01:38 <+Netham45> aww 01:38 < Nikky> I hired ports_ instead 01:38 < ports_> no 01:38 <+Netham45> oh well 01:38 < ports_> i hired you 01:38 < ports_> youre my troll 01:38 <+Netham45> I'm sure he'll do good 01:38 < ports_> assistant 01:38 < Nikky> shut up bitch 01:38 < ports_> Nikky, stfu qtip 01:38 < Nikky> assrag 01:39 < Nikky> smart_: Kick ports_'s ass 01:39 < ports_> cocksucker 01:39 <@_Auron_> children, stfu 01:39 <+Netham45> cumtards. 01:39 < ports_> jizzguzzler 01:39 < Nikky> scrotum 01:39 < ports_> taint 01:39 -!- mode/#tcpa [+m] by _Auron_ 01:39 <+prime> i win 01:39 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Nikky] by efneTI86 01:39 <+Netham45> lol 01:39 <+Nikky> I win too 01:39 <@_Auron_> Please mature. 01:39 <+Nikky> Yes you should. 01:39 <+Netham45> yay. first time since I got voice I've actually been able to use it! 01:40 -!- mode/#tcpa [-m] by _Auron_ 01:40 <@chronomex> wait 01:40 <@chronomex> yuou have voice? 01:40 -!- TD-Linux [~wheeeeeee@65.165.173.1] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 01:40 * chronomex hides 01:40 <+Nikky> chronomex: yes 01:40 < ports_> why didnt the bots voice me 01:40 <@chronomex> do you have op? 01:40 <+Netham45> ports_, you insulted their mother by calling her a scrambled egg. 01:40 <+Nikky> ports_: you gotta ident 01:40 <@_Auron_> nikky has a lot of things 01:40 < ports_> Netham45, nah.. i didnt scramble her eggs till i fucked her 01:40 <+Nikky> then /msg efneti86 voice pass 01:41 <+Netham45> ports_, you just admitted to having sex with a computer process. 01:41 < ports_> whats my password 01:41 < millinao> holy crap my friend has shamwow 01:41 <+Nikky> ports_: dunno 01:41 <+Netham45> the guy on the shamwow commercials looks like the scout from TF2. 01:41 <@_Auron_> shamwow? 01:41 <+Nikky> ports_: if you remebe rit you can kick people! 01:41 <+jd19> my mom thinks he looks like a carnie 01:41 <+Netham45> _Auron_, no, ShamWOW! 01:41 <@_Auron_> wtf is shamwow 01:41 <+Netham45> dish towels, pretty much. 01:41 <+Nikky> Dam\__: you gotta stick your botnick at the end 01:41 < millinao> old news netham 01:41 <+Netham45> glorified dish towels. 01:41 <+jd19> they're SUPER ABSORBANT 01:42 <@_Auron_> oh, those. <_o 01:42 < millinao> 20,000 times it's own weight 01:42 <+Nikky> Dam\__: which is metalrand 01:42 <+Nikky> there you go 01:42 <+Netham45> Anyone here ever set up an Exchange server before? 01:42 < millinao> no 01:42 -!- millinao [~millinao@c-71-193-155-217.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:42 <+Nikky> you might need to stick #tcpa at the very end... but I doubt it 01:42 <+Netham45> I got outgoing e-mail to work, but I can't get incoming. 01:43 <+Nikky> exchange is kind of fail 01:43 -!- mode/#tcpa [+b *!*@64.146.49.170] by Andy_J 01:43 -!- ports_ was kicked from #tcpa by Andy_J [ports_] 01:43 < Dam\__> Nope. Nothin'. 01:43 <+Netham45> Nikky, yea, it is, but I should probabally learn how to deal with it. 01:44 <+Nikky> Andy_J: ? 01:45 <+Netham45> Don't question the lurker. 01:45 <@Andy_J> Nikky: you were instigating, you need a time out too 01:45 <+jd19> oh my god this pancheros is good 01:45 <+Nikky> I don't quite understand. 01:45 < Grue`> zomg it's smart 01:45 * Grue` pokes smart_ 01:45 < Grue`> idling bastard 01:46 <+Nikky> when is the next geek cred coming out? 01:46 < Dam\__> Or he is a good lurker. 01:46 <+Nikky> lazy ass 01:46 < Grue`> since when do you care about my podcast Nikky? :P 01:46 <@Andy_J> Since you got Wil >_> 01:46 <+Nikky> I've subscribed it foreve 01:46 < Grue`> LOL Andy_J 01:46 <+Nikky> it's jhust that your channel is full of retards 01:47 <@Andy_J> ^ 01:47 <+Netham45> Crouching troll Hidden op 01:47 < Grue`> and this channel isn't? >.> 01:47 <@Andy_J> Touche/ 01:47 < Grue`> :P 01:47 <+Nikky> it's not 01:47 < Spengo> hello guys 01:47 <+Nikky> hi asslicker 01:47 < Spengo> hi dickwad 01:47 < Grue`> I still can't help but be skeptical that you've been listening to my show though Nikky... :/ 01:47 < Spengo> I listened to one show 01:48 <+Netham45> you have a show? 01:48 < Grue`> But the interview with Wil Wheaton should be up tomorrow 01:48 < Spengo> a podcast 01:48 < Grue`> www.geekcred.net 01:48 <+Nikky> Grue`: I do! 01:48 <+Nikky> your voice is totally sexhay 01:49 <+Nikky> I want to make love with it playing 01:49 < Grue`> Now I know you're trolling ;) 01:50 < Dam\__> But Nikky does not troll. 01:51 -!- _Auron_ [~DarkAuron@ppp-70-249-146-14.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:51 <+Nikky> it's 45 in the living room 01:51 <+Nikky> probably should close the windows now 01:51 < Dam\__> He is the TCPA *patrol.* 01:52 <+Nikky> Ask me the last time I kicked anyone was 01:52 <+Nikky> or banned 01:52 <+Nikky> a longgg time 01:52 -!- HelDragon [~Nocebo@modemcable022.187-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:52 -!- HelDragon [~Nocebo@modemcable022.187-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #tcpa 01:53 -!- Goplat [~goplat@76-191-156-24.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has joined #tcpa 01:53 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Goplat] by efneTI85 01:54 * Dam\__ has only been banned once and kicked twice since he's been here, that he can remember. 01:54 <+Nikky> hey Goplat :) 01:54 < Dam\__> * Since December. 01:54 <+Nikky> I would never ban you 01:55 <+Nikky> I've never been kicked 01:55 <+Nikky> bwahahah 01:55 <+Nikky> Well, Ox40 used to kick me. 01:55 <+Nikky> :( 01:55 < Ox40> ^_^ 01:55 < Grue`> I can kick you if you want instead 01:55 < Grue`> ;) 01:55 * Netham45 wants to kick Ox40 01:56 <+Netham45> Nikky, go get that script written 01:56 <+Nikky> Grue`: Excelt you don't count 01:56 < Grue`> :( 01:56 <+Nikky> because your bot sucks 01:56 <+Nikky> ginsburg is wayyy better 01:56 <+Netham45> psh 01:56 <+Netham45> treebeard was the best 01:56 <+prime> eatonrish 01:57 <+Nikky> snowcrash uptime? 21 days LULZ 01:57 <+prime> paxalar 01:57 <+Nikky> Ginsburg? 252 days 01:57 <+Nikky> suck it trebeck 01:57 < Grue`> So? Ginsburg isn't here ;) 01:57 <+Nikky> can't even keep a eggdrop bot running 01:57 < Grue`> And that's not even your box ;) 01:57 -!- Merthsoft [~Shaun@140.141.26.108] has joined #tcpa 01:57 <+Netham45> 21 days? 01:57 <+Nikky> fine, use milton then 01:57 <+Netham45> my Windows server has a higher uptime. 01:57 <+Nikky> Netham45: I nkow, right 01:57 < Grue`> Yeah well we had a power outage 01:57 <+prime> yea right 01:57 * Netham45 grr's 01:58 <+prime> that's the first excuse in the book 01:58 < Grue`> I live in California, the power company sucks 01:58 <+Nikky> You probably had dirty sex all over the powerstrip 01:58 <@Andy_J> get an UPS 01:58 < Grue`> Some idiot ran into a power pole down the street and took out the whole neighborhoods power for the afternoon 01:58 < Grue`> I *DO* 01:58 < Grue`> The power was out for 7 hours 01:58 < Grue`> :( 01:58 <+Nikky> don't host it at home 01:58 <+Nikky> fail 01:58 < Ox40> Lol, even I have a UPS... O.o 01:58 <@Andy_J> get a bigger ups 01:58 -!- mode/#tcpa [-b *!*@64.146.49.170] by efneTI85 01:58 <+Nikky> know who hosts at home? 01:58 <+Nikky> Ox40 and Netham45 01:58 <+Nikky> do yo uwant to be like them? 01:58 < Grue`> Sure, buy me one Andy_J :P 01:59 * Nikky buys Grue` 01:59 <+Nikky> You'll be a great slave 01:59 < Grue`> lol 01:59 < ryantmer> I live next to Great Slave 01:59 <+Netham45> I have a UPS too, but I doubt it lasts long, it's about a year old. 01:59 < ryantmer> (Lake, that is) 01:59 <+Nikky> probably should close the windows now 01:59 < ryantmer> And I know that's not relevant, but I said it anyway. 02:00 -!- Dam\__ [~winterven@216.117.120.200] has quit [Quit: "No reason remains for us to stay." (0AD)] 02:00 <+Netham45> us? 02:00 <+Netham45> does he have a split personality? 02:01 < Ox40> HEY, lmao, I have two 220V server UPS 02:01 < Ox40> BEAT that!!! 02:01 <+Netham45> HEY, lmao, I have 30TB of disk space 02:01 <+Netham45> BEAT that!!! 02:02 <+Nikky> Netham45 wins 02:02 < Ox40> Netham45: your DAD has 30TB. 02:02 < Ox40> _I_ have two server UPSs 02:02 <+Nikky> Stop trolling. 02:02 < Ox40> :) 02:02 <+Netham45> Ox40, your DAD has herpes. 02:02 <+Nikky> he does. 02:02 < Ox40> Netham45: *shrug* w/e 02:02 < Ox40> You are failing at trolling 02:02 <+Netham45> and you are failing at bragging. 02:03 <+Netham45> I do believe that you are bragging about stuff you were offering to sell about an hour ago. 02:03 <+Netham45> "Hey! I got this! I don't use it, infact I want to get rid of it, but I have it!" 02:04 <+Nikky> Netham45++ 02:04 <+Nikky> Man Ox40, are you gonna take this from Netham45? 02:05 < Ox40> :P 02:05 < Ox40> Nikky: I really dont care... 02:05 <+Netham45> translation: "I don't have anything to respond with." 02:05 <+Nikky> ^ 02:05 < Ox40> He is trying to inflate his e-penis and its deflating faster.... 02:05 <+Nikky> Stop using naughty words. 02:06 <+Netham45> your e-penis has erectile dysfunction. 02:06 <+Nikky> This is a family channel, sir. 02:06 <+jd19> weak stream 02:06 < Ox40> lol 02:06 < Ox40> Ok... so, on a different topic 02:07 <+Nikky> Ox40: Biggest loser on earth? 02:07 <+Nikky> Discuss... 02:07 < Ox40> How can I redirect everything to index.php, but still have all the path_info on it? 02:07 <+Nikky> use perl 02:07 < Ox40> Nikky: THAT WONT HELP 02:07 <+Netham45> Ox40, IIS and perl 02:07 <+Nikky> Sure it will. 02:07 <@Andy_J> rewrite 02:07 < Ox40> IIS no 02:07 < Ox40> perl, maybe 02:07 <+Nikky> maybe? 02:07 <+Nikky> You just said "THAT WONT HELP" 02:07 < Ox40> Andy_J: RewriteRule ^.*$ index.php [L] 02:07 <+prime> custom write a httpd and host index.php on your ti89 02:07 <+Nikky> you gotta start your httpd 02:08 <+Nikky> restart 02:08 <+Nikky> whore 02:08 < Ox40> Nikky: I did... 02:08 <+Nikky> that requires using a command line 02:08 <+Nikky> so I'm assuming you didn't 02:08 < Ox40> dude, I did 02:08 < Ox40> Please, shut up. 02:08 <+Netham45> see, using IIS, it's all in a cluttered gui! 02:08 <+Nikky> ^ 02:08 <+prime> step one: make sure the computer is plugged in 02:09 < Ox40> oh... 02:09 < Ox40> lol thats the problem 02:09 <+Nikky> Figures. 02:09 <+Netham45> !qadd step one: make sure the computer is plugged in | lol thats the problem 02:09 <@efneTI86> Quote 1509 added 02:09 <+Nikky> thanks 02:09 <+Netham45> np 02:09 <+Nikky> I was about to do that myself ;) 02:09 <+Netham45> lol 02:09 < Ox40> !qdel 1509 02:10 <@efneTI86> Deleted quote 1509 02:10 < Ox40> You misquoted me 02:10 <@Andy_J> !qadd step one: make sure the computer is plugged in | lol thats the problem 02:10 < Ox40> 0)0 02:10 <@efneTI86> Quote 1510 added 02:10 <+Netham45> !kick Ox40 self-deleting 02:10 <+Nikky> !k Ox40 No editorial 02:10 <+Netham45> :( 02:10 -!- Ox40 was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [Nikky: No editorial] 02:10 -!- Ox40 [~Ox40@adsl-75-44-34-251.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #tcpa 02:10 <+Nikky> !k Ox40 No editorial 02:10 -!- Ox40 was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [Nikky: No editorial] 02:10 -!- Ox40 [~Ox40@adsl-75-44-34-251.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #tcpa 02:10 <+Netham45> can I please get the ability to kick Ox40? 02:10 <+Nikky> That would be pretty funny. 02:10 < Ox40> ^_^ *** Now ignoring *!*nikky@*.washington.edu 02:10 < Ox40> Ignorance is bliss 02:10 <+Netham45> !k Ox40 ignoring ops 02:10 <+Netham45> :( 02:10 < Ox40> Netham45: dude... 02:11 -!- mode/#tcpa [+b *!*@adsl-75-44-34-251.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] by Andy_J 02:11 -!- Ox40 was kicked from #tcpa by Andy_J [Ignoring chanops is against the rules] 02:11 <+Nikky> Meh 02:11 <+Netham45> hahahaha 02:11 <+Nikky> I would have just kicked him to talk 02:11 -!- rivereye [~Rivereye@c-24-11-113-194.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:11 <@Andy_J> come on irssi 02:11 -!- mode/#tcpa [-b *!*@adsl-75-44-34-251.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] by Andy_J 02:11 <@Andy_J> 15s 02:11 <@Andy_J> there you go 02:11 <+Netham45> now /invite him. 02:11 -!- Ox40 [~Ox40@adsl-75-44-34-251.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #tcpa 02:11 <+Nikky> For someone who misqutes people often, ox40 sure gets pissy when somenoe does that to him 02:11 <+Nikky> and that asn't even a misquote 02:12 <+Netham45> !qfind would if I 02:12 <@efneTI86> 1456:Andy_J: * Nikky changes Ox40's infoline to "I screw my cousins" | Nikky: I would if I could... 02:12 <@efneTI86> (All of 1 match) 02:12 <+Nikky> nice 02:12 <+Nikky> we need to use thta more often 02:12 < Ox40> *nod* 02:12 <+Netham45> is that a nod of approval/agreement to the quote? 02:13 < Ox40> jup 02:13 <+Netham45> I fear for your relatives. 02:13 <@Andy_J> So you're saying you can't get it up? 02:13 < Ox40> Andy_J: yeah, was that not clear? 02:14 <+Nikky> he can't 02:14 <@Andy_J> It all makes sense now. 02:14 <+Nikky> I cybered with Ox40 a while back 02:14 <+Netham45> Nikky, check for backdoors now. 02:14 <+Nikky> k 02:14 <+Nikky> found one 02:15 <+Netham45> what's its description? 02:15 <+Nikky> gross 02:15 -!- Dam\__ [~winterven@216.117.120.200] has joined #tcpa 02:15 <+Netham45> >.> 02:16 <+Netham45> you're supposed to use that to make an Ox40.PHP.sucks.trojan joke. 02:16 < zeropod> <•••> 02:16 <+Nikky> ah 02:17 < Dam\__> I want an Australian 02:17 < Dam\__> accent, for some reason... 02:17 <+Nikky> get one 02:17 <+Netham45> ok, I read, "I want an autstralian" 02:18 <+Netham45> >.> 02:18 <+Nikky> An Autsultralian? 02:18 <+Netham45> er 02:18 <+Netham45> austrailian 02:18 <+Netham45> lol 02:18 < Dam\__> Netham45: You need more glasses. :P 02:18 < Ox40> I think he needs more bling 02:19 * Netham45 holds up the gold, "Ox40 Sucks" oversized necklass 02:19 <+Nikky> Can I order one? 02:19 <+Netham45> sure. 02:20 <+Netham45> they're $500 normally, but because of the message on it, I'll give it to you for $250 02:20 <+Nikky> sweet 02:21 * Dam\__ scratches Netham45's necklace. This is not gold. 02:21 <+Netham45> It's a floor model. 02:22 <+Nikky> haha 02:24 -!- Ox40 [~Ox40@adsl-75-44-34-251.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:25 -!- Ox40 [~Ox40@adsl-75-44-34-251.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #tcpa 02:31 < Ox40> http://haserv/buku/index.php/controllerName/actionName works just fine 02:31 < Ox40> I want http://haserv/buku/controllerName/actionName to work the same way 02:31 < Ox40> Seems like something simple, right? 02:34 < Merthsoft> they both 404 02:34 <+Nikky> yeah 02:34 < _Digital> I assume those are hypothetical 02:35 <+Nikky> you forgot a domain name there champ 02:35 <+Netham45> YYYYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYY 02:35 <+Netham45> EXCHANGE WORKS! 02:35 < sir_lewk> is that kind of like "Microsoft Works"? 02:35 < _Digital> I need an easy way to sort through 38000 text files 02:35 < _Digital> hey Merthsoft, you did this before, no? 02:35 < _Digital> ;) 02:35 < sir_lewk> _Digital: standard *nix tools? 02:35 <+Netham45> sir_lewk, I just had to install SP2 for Exchange 02:36 <+Netham45> didn't realize it was missing a service pack 02:36 < sir_lewk> that's pretty much were the excell 02:36 < Merthsoft> _Digital: Did I? 02:37 * Netham45 goes to install SharePoint 02:37 < _Digital> Merthsoft, you have fun renaming file a while back iirc 02:37 <+Nikky> rm -rf /directory/to/sort 02:38 <+Nikky> that'll pull up an interactive prompt 02:38 < _Digital> har 02:38 <+Nikky> which lets you slelect sort options 02:38 < Ox40> Merthsoft: yeah... 02:38 < Ox40> they are good for me :P 02:38 <+Netham45> haserv/buku? 02:38 <+Netham45> wtf are you hosting? 02:38 <+Nikky> 4chan 02:38 < Merthsoft> _Digital: I don' 02:38 < Merthsoft> t recall... 02:39 < Merthsoft> Though it's possible. What was I renaming and how? 02:39 <+Nikky> Netham45: Well, Ox40 *is* an asian woman. 02:39 < Ox40> Netham45: my framework 02:39 <+Netham45> Nikky, that explains why he's been so pissy the past few days 02:39 <+Netham45> he's on his period! 02:39 <+Nikky> yep 02:40 < Dam\__> _Digital: Sort though how? 02:40 < Ox40> Netham45: Dude, Period jokes are just stupid.... 02:40 < Merthsoft> he's always pissy 02:40 -!- TD-Linux [~wheeeeeee@96-42-68-26.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com] has joined #tcpa 02:40 < Merthsoft> !k Ox40 Test 02:40 -!- Ox40 was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [Merthsoft: Test] 02:40 -!- Ox40 [~Ox40@adsl-75-44-34-251.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #tcpa 02:40 <+Netham45> Ox40, you only think that because you're on your period. 02:41 <+Netham45> but, if I was making fun of someone else, Merthsoft for example, you'd be sitting over there lauging your ass off 02:41 < Merthsoft> !k Merthsoft test 02:41 -!- Merthsoft was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [Merthsoft: test] 02:41 <+Netham45> since it's you though, it's stupid. fucking hypocrite. 02:41 -!- Merthsoft [~Shaun@140.141.26.108] has joined #tcpa 02:41 < Ox40> Netham45: nothing you have ever said got me remotely close to laughing... 02:42 -!- ports_ [~ports@64.146.49.170] has joined #tcpa 02:42 -!- mode/#tcpa [+b *!*@64.146.49.170] by efneTI89 02:42 -!- ports_ was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI89 [Banned: Cool you heels for a week.] 02:42 < Ox40> BUT, that picture of you in the pimp suit... THAT made me laugh 02:42 < _Digital> funny 02:42 <+Netham45> Yay! 02:42 <+Netham45> ... 02:42 <+Netham45> why does my server have wireshark on it 02:42 * Netham45 goes to query the other people who have access to his server 02:43 < Merthsoft> can i have access to your server? 02:43 <+Nikky> me too 02:43 < sir_lewk> you know what grinds my gears? 02:43 <+Netham45> Yea, and you can have my social security number too. 02:43 <+Nikky> it's probably super fast 02:43 <+Netham45> it's 555-55-1234 02:43 < _Digital> Netham45, you have 1Mbps upload and you wondered why I said I should be the one to mirror snowman's stuff 02:44 < sir_lewk> *.C being used as an extention for c++ source. 02:44 < Dam\__> Netham45: http://omploader.org/vMTZzdg.png 02:44 <+Nikky> _Digital: netham's server is a pentium pro 02:44 < Merthsoft> sir_lewk: yeah,. i also hate .cc 02:44 < _Digital> explains the horrid latency too 02:44 <+Netham45> Dam\__, you make no sense 02:44 <+Nikky> yeah 02:44 <+Netham45> Nikky, it's a 1GHz Xeon 02:44 <+Nikky> it's pretty shitty 02:44 <+Netham45> not the best, I know, but not a pentium pro 02:44 <+Netham45> _Digital, I'm installing a bunch of shit right now 02:45 <+Netham45> .net, sharepoint, exchange modules 02:45 <+Netham45> etc... 02:45 < sir_lewk> I eat intel zeons for breakfast 02:45 <+mtgrss111> O_o 02:45 <+Netham45> what's a zeon? 02:45 < Ox40> IE stuff that will never be used 02:45 < Ox40> BUT, its installed!!! 02:45 < _Digital> Netham45, were you on it last night around 0100 PST? 02:45 <+Nikky> ticalc still uses a dual core 200MHz pentium pro 02:45 <+Nikky> with like 576MB of ram 02:45 < _Digital> 1GHz Xeon w/ 1Mbps vs 3.2GHz C2Q w/ 15Mbps 02:45 <+Netham45> _Digital, for some 2MB jpegs? 02:45 <+Nikky> yeah 02:45 < _Digital> 3 meg 02:46 <+Nikky> _Digital's server is superior 02:46 <+Nikky> it runs gentoo too! 02:46 <+Nikky> so you nkow it's super fast 02:46 < _Digital> http://atlas64.selfip.net:8080/Mirrors/jrush.dyndns.org/isaac 02:46 <+Netham45> Gentoo is a reason to not ever even touch it 02:46 < Dam\__> Maybe he should start charging for hosting. He could be rolling in it. 02:46 <+Nikky> Netham45: you're jealous 02:46 <+Nikky> That he knows how to use linux from a CLI 02:46 <+Nikky> and you don't 02:46 * Netham45 ponders pimpin' out his hosting 02:46 <+Netham45> :P 02:47 < Dam\__> He's also an expert in watching text scroll by for hours. 02:47 < _Digital> lol 02:48 < Dam\__> Netham45: Remember to use the coupon. ;) 02:49 < Ox40> lol 02:49 <+Netham45> 1 per customer 02:49 <+Netham45> per visit 02:49 < _Digital> expires in 5 minutes 02:56 -!- i_c-Y [Icy@cpe-69-204-242-163.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa 02:57 -!- mode/#tcpa [-b *!*@64.146.49.170] by efneTI86 02:57 < zeropod> oh noes 02:58 <+Netham45> no ohes 02:58 < zeropod> ohh nooooez 02:58 < Spengo> well 02:58 < Spengo> beat mirror's edge 02:58 < Spengo> that was a terrible storyline 02:59 < Spengo> I played through the entire game until the last level not knowing there was a quickturn button 02:59 < zeropod> what? lol 02:59 < Spengo> which apparently is required to get up in the air vents, spent like 30 minutes trying to figure that out :P 03:00 < Tari> the plot really does suck 03:00 < Tari> gameplay itself is pretty good 03:01 < Tari> as long as you ignore the bits with lots of cops at once 03:01 <+Netham45> Cam someone e-mail netham45@netham45.org for me? 03:01 < Spengo> yeah I rather enjoyed the jumping around rooftops 03:01 < zeropod> xp 03:01 < Spengo> it needs a sandbox mode 03:01 < zeropod> Netham45: no 03:01 < Spengo> with no retarded helicopters to chase you 03:01 < Spengo> but they didn't make the levels that way, they are kinda linear 03:02 < Spengo> also, it is kinda lame sometimes because they don't make use of multicore cpus very well 03:02 < Spengo> so sometimes it gets laggy 03:02 < Spengo> it isn't the graphics, I tried running it on really low settings and max settings, and it is still exactly the same 03:03 < Spengo> but whenever there are like, a bunch of police around the framerate drops to like 25fps or something, I didn't really count it but that's what it felt like 03:03 * Grue` gives Netham45's address to spammers 03:03 < Spengo> playable but ugly 03:03 <+Netham45> Grue`, I got a spam filter! 03:04 < Grue`> If spam filters always worked there wouldn't be spam ;) 03:07 -!- zeropod [~zeropod@fiber-64.201.86.25.lhtot.com] has quit [Quit: brbbl] 03:08 -!- zeropod [~zeropod@fiber-64.201.86.25.lhtot.com] has joined #tcpa 03:08 -!- TheStorm [~TheStorm@CPE-24-167-219-81.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa 03:08 <@efneTI92> [TheStorm] Yes rivereye, it is time to go fishing. 03:09 <+Netham45> http://openoffice-3.org/m/ :( 03:21 < Tari> http://ru.fishki.net/picsw/082007/09/ukus/ukus_001_128.jpg 03:21 < Tari> eeeew, yet awesome 03:22 < Merthsoft> spider bite or something? 03:23 < _Digital> !k Tari shock photo 03:23 -!- Tari was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [_Digital: shock photo] 03:23 -!- Tari [~Tari@mke-66-97-120-39.milwpc.com] has joined #tcpa 03:23 < Tari> :( 03:23 < Tari> that's no shock photo 03:23 < Tari> rattlesnake bite, Merthsoft 03:23 < _Digital> maybe not for you but there is nothign describing the content which should've been done on that 03:23 < Merthsoft> ah 03:24 < Tari> fair enough, _Digital 03:24 < Tari> http://funnypicturecrazy.info/2007/08/09/rattlesnake-bite/ 03:24 < Tari> if anyone wants the full story behind that 03:24 < Tari> (some more similarly horrible pictures there) 03:25 < _Digital> thank you 03:26 < Tari> :) 03:26 -!- _Auron_ [~DarkAuron@ppp-70-249-146-14.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #tcpa 03:26 -!- mode/#tcpa [+o _Auron_] by efneTI86 03:26 <@efneTI92> [_Auron_] We called it Sin. 03:28 < Ox40> I GOT ITTTT! 03:28 < Tari> :? 03:29 < _Digital> I don't like my IRQ assignments, I want to change them 03:38 < bense> omfg 03:39 < bense> http://funnypicturecrazy.info/2007/08/09/rattlesnake-bite/ 03:42 -!- JoelS [~JSeligste@outbound285a.pasd.tfbnw.net] has quit [Leaving] 03:42 -!- BrandonW [~calcmaste@75.130.72.232] has joined #tcpa 03:43 < BrandonW> Andy_J, I demand that you show yourself. 03:43 < TheStorm> lulz 03:44 < BrandonW> After this I'm resorting to IMs, and then I'm flat out calling you. 03:44 < BrandonW> If I can find a number. 03:44 < _Digital> you sound like an angry gf 03:45 < BrandonW> YOU GOT A PROBLEM WITH ME 03:45 < TheStorm> ok BrandonW calm down 03:45 < _Digital> BrandonW, read his status 03:45 < _Digital> he said he's off ot bed early 03:45 <+Netham45> * [Andy_J] is away (Disconnected from irssi's screen. (Read: Not looking at my IRC client.)) 03:45 -!- glk [~glk@adsl-70-234-141-110.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net] has joined #tcpa 03:46 < BrandonW> He JUST set that. 03:46 < BrandonW> I smell conspiracy. 03:46 < _Digital> he has been idle for 20 minutes 03:46 <+Netham45> * [Andy_J] idle 01:29:32 03:46 < BrandonW> Then I smell a broken client. 03:46 <+Netham45> why do you need to talk to him so bad? o.O 03:46 < _Digital> missed cuddle time? 03:46 < BrandonW> I want the WikiTI database dump. 03:47 -!- tsrk [~tsrk@c-67-171-134-156.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 03:47 < tsrk> Hi 03:47 <+Netham45> Hi 03:47 < Ox40> Isnt it beautiful? http://pastebin.com/m7735ba4c 03:47 < tsrk> What's the difference between a program and a function on a ti-89? 03:47 <+Netham45> Since you look new, please let me be your first impression of this channel. 03:47 -!- Barrett [~berto_cha@75-165-233-131.slkc.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 370 seconds] 03:48 < Ox40> tsrk: please dont listen to him 03:48 < Ox40> do you mean program and application? 03:48 < _Digital> tsrk, programs do thigns other than just math, functions only do math 03:48 < BrandonW> Functions return values to be used in expressions. 03:48 < BrandonW> Programs don't do that. 03:48 < tsrk> _Digital, so a function just has limitations? 03:48 < tsrk> oh 03:48 < tsrk> so programs can't return anything? 03:48 < _Digital> BrandonW, programs can return values 03:48 < BrandonW> Not to be used in a math expression. 03:49 <@_Auron_> ๑۩۞۩๑ 03:49 < _Digital> _Auron_, you love ASCII don't you? 03:49 < tsrk> if I have a program "foo()" could I do foo() -> bar? 03:50 -!- Barrett [~berto_cha@75-165-233-129.slkc.qwest.net] has joined #tcpa 03:50 <@_Auron_> _Digital: (º"(.·.·.· `(m)` 03:50 < _Digital> a program can write directly to bar so foo() -> bar is extra complication that is unneeded 03:51 < tsrk> _Digital, but would that work? 03:51 < _Digital> only if the program was told to behave that way 03:51 < tsrk> and could I do "foo() + 1" if foo returns an int or would I need a function for that? 03:51 < _Digital> that would be an expression 03:51 < _Digital> only a function would do that 03:51 <@_Auron_> heh 03:52 < tsrk> ok 03:52 < tsrk> i think i kinda understand 03:52 < _Digital> BrandonW, feel free to jump in as I haven't programmed on a 68K in a loooooooooooooooong time 03:52 < BrandonW> It's possible for programs to return things, but you can't use it in an expression in any way. 03:52 < BrandonW> So both examples require functions. 03:53 <@_Auron_> mm saint's row 2 is interesting, so far mostly just feels like GTA entirely, but I'm only in the very beginning of the game 03:53 < BrandonW> If you're doing anything at all function-like, use functions. That's why they're there. 03:53 < BrandonW> They show up in the catalog as user-defined functions. 03:53 < Ox40> http://impoll.org/poll/120 03:53 < tsrk> BrandonW, what can I do with values that programs return then? 03:53 < TheStorm> I wish the z80's had fuctions 03:53 < BrandonW> See them on the homescreen. 03:53 < tsrk> ohh, functions are in the catalog but not programs? 03:53 < BrandonW> Instead of Done. 03:53 < BrandonW> That's it. 03:53 < tsrk> oh 03:53 < BrandonW> Right. 03:53 < tsrk> ok, sounds nice 03:53 <+Netham45> BrandonW, when you call Andy_J, tell him to ban Ox40. 03:53 < tsrk> i'm just switching from a ti-83 03:54 < _Digital> lol 03:54 < BrandonW> You realize, Netham45, that if I do that, he'll ban you instead just because I mentioned you. 03:54 < BrandonW> So sure. 03:54 < tsrk> can I easily transfer programs from the computer to the ti-89? 03:54 < glk> I use a TI-89T 03:54 < tsrk> in text format or something? 03:54 <+Netham45> BrandonW, please also state that he mentioned impoll.org. 03:54 < BrandonW> tsrk, yes. In fact, there's a variable format on the 89 just for that. 03:54 < tsrk> i've had a 89T for a while but it's just been collecting dust cause i'm too lazy to learn to use it 03:55 < glk> I use a Mac and have no problem transfering from the 89T 03:55 < tsrk> BrandonW, same or different from program format? 03:55 < Ox40> Netham45: nik is the only one who has a problem with that... 03:55 < BrandonW> I meant the program format, it won't actually be a TXT file or anything. 03:55 < glk> http://grahamkendall.net/ in MATH has much 89 data 03:55 <+Netham45> Ox40, you mean nikky? 03:55 < BrandonW> Although I'm sure there are converters on ticalc.org. 03:55 <+Netham45> or did I just highlight him when you were trying to avoid it? 03:55 < Ox40> Netham45: ya, i was trying to avoid highlighting him tho... 03:55 < Ox40> :P 03:56 <+Nikky> !k Ox40 Thanks Netham 03:56 -!- Ox40 was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [Nikky: Thanks Netham] 03:56 -!- Ox40 [~Ox40@adsl-75-44-34-251.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #tcpa 03:56 <+Netham45> np 03:56 < Ox40> *rolls eyes* 03:56 < BrandonW> tsrk, I misspoke, I meant to say that yes, it's different from the program format. It's still a calculator file, though. 03:56 < tsrk> BrandonW, can it be run as a program still? 03:56 < BrandonW> No, it doesn't execute. 03:56 < BrandonW> Programs can have comments, by the way. 03:56 < BrandonW> It's a pretty sweet device. 03:57 < tsrk> comments? how? 03:57 < BrandonW> I remember when I got it on my birthday, I stayed up all night and read the 89 manual front-to-back. 03:57 < BrandonW> Start the line with @. 03:57 < tsrk> is the manual actually helpful? 03:57 < tsrk> @? why @? 03:57 < zeropod> tsrk: ... 03:57 <@_Auron_> the full one is 03:57 < BrandonW> I'm sure the one it comes with now is a skinny little piece of junk. 03:57 < BrandonW> The full one is helpful. 03:57 < _Digital> BrandonW, the manual that is .67" thick? 03:57 < glk> The old TI-89 manual is better than the new T manual 03:58 < tsrk> uh over 300 pages, i don't even want to read this one :P 03:58 < BrandonW> Yeah, the new one sucks. 03:58 < glk> You can download the old manual 03:58 < tsrk> is this the new one or old one? 03:58 < BrandonW> I got it when I got the 89Ti. 03:58 < BrandonW> I have every calculator. 03:58 < BrandonW> I think the count is up to 29 if you count 4 or 5 broken ones. 03:58 < _Digital> ad no life ;) 03:58 < BrandonW> The one online is the full one. 03:58 < BrandonW> 20+ chapters. 03:59 < glk> Download the manuals for stats and eepro 03:59 < tsrk> what exactly is eepro? 03:59 < tsrk> (i erased all mem and loaded only a few apps) 03:59 < BrandonW> I know glk is just itching to ask that, so... 03:59 * BrandonW backs away 03:59 < glk> It is for electrical engineering It comes with the 89T 03:59 < _Digital> Electrical Engineering Flash App 03:59 < BrandonW> to answer that,* 03:59 < tsrk> i don't do any electrical engineering so i probably won't need that 03:59 < glk> It can be downloaded free 04:00 < TheStorm> Hey which thermal paste do ya'll recomend? 04:00 < tsrk> is there any archive of math functions for the ti89? 04:00 < Dam\__> The Catalog? 04:00 < TheStorm> http://tibasicdev.wikidot.com/68k:home 04:00 < BrandonW> Amazing how useless most people are. 04:00 < glk> It also has fast fourier trsnsform and a table of Laplace Transforms 04:00 <@_Auron_> TheStorm: some form of arctic silver 04:00 < TheStorm> k thanks 04:00 < BrandonW> There is no category on ticalc.org, no. 04:01 < tsrk> oh 04:01 <+Nikky> Should there be? 04:01 < tsrk> well, maybe i can learn to make my own then :D 04:01 < BrandonW> If anyone actually took the time to write useful ones. 04:01 < tsrk> i would like some like normalcdf and binomcdf (yes, i have the stats app but still...) 04:01 <@_Auron_> painful: http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/416/41614.html 04:02 < BrandonW> I hate so much when they refer to it as their "TI." 04:02 < tsrk> are BASIC games actually possible on the 89? 04:02 < tsrk> do I have to declare variables and specify their type? 04:02 < zeropod> tsrk: just a tic 04:02 < BrandonW> Of course they are. 04:02 < tsrk> a tic? 04:02 < BrandonW> BASIC programs can have local variables. 04:02 < BrandonW> And those you declare. 04:03 < glk> http://www.ticalc.org/pub/89/basic/ Many programs for TI-89 04:03 < tsrk> is that what Define is for? 04:03 < BrandonW> Yes. 04:03 < tsrk> do i specify the type? 04:03 < BrandonW> No, they're whatever you want. 04:03 < tsrk> ok 04:03 < BrandonW> When you assign them. 04:03 < tsrk> what's Local? 04:03 < glk> Define defines a function Define f(x)=sin(x) 04:03 < tsrk> oh 04:03 < BrandonW> Yeah, sorry. 04:03 < BrandonW> Local is for that. 04:03 < tsrk> Local is for variables? 04:03 < tsrk> ok 04:04 < TheStorm> http://tibasicdev.wikidot.com/68k:home <- that is a good place to look for help with BAsic 04:04 < BrandonW> I never got into the 68k hard core. 04:04 < tsrk> if I just do foo = "sometext" is that storing it as a global variable or throws an error or what? 04:04 < glk> A local variable in a program is not remembered after the program quits 04:04 < BrandonW> You would have to do "sometext"->foo 04:04 < tsrk> oh 04:04 < tsrk> right 04:04 < tsrk> sorry 04:04 < tsrk> but yeah, that 04:04 < glk> Try TI-89 lessons in MATH in http://grahamkendall.net/ 04:04 < BrandonW> That would store it as a global variable. 04:04 < tsrk> ok 04:04 < BrandonW> Unless you had "Local foo" earlier in the program. 04:05 < tsrk> TheStorm, i'll look over that, thanks 04:05 < tsrk> ok 04:05 < TheStorm> it has teh syntax for almost all the built in functions 04:05 < tsrk> this looks like a lot more modern programming than the 83 04:05 < TheStorm> an what they do of course 04:05 < glk> TI-89 BASIC Science Programs 04:06 < glk> http://www.ticalc.org/pub/89/basic/science/ 04:06 < TheStorm> yeah it is, I wish I had a 68k calc :( 04:06 < tsrk> what do you have? 04:06 < BrandonW> Good lord, you don't even have one, TheStorm? 04:06 < Ox40> OK, you cant say this isn't beautiful: http://pastebin.com/m5a4b6b28 04:06 <+Nikky> php shit 04:06 < BrandonW> Yes, I can, you PHP freak. 04:06 < Ox40> That doesnt look awesome to you? 04:06 <+Nikky> No, it's PHP 04:06 < BrandonW> It really doesn't. 04:06 < Ox40> ... 04:06 < Ox40> :( 04:06 <+Nikky> Where's the shebang? 04:06 < BrandonW> ...... 04:07 < tsrk> TheStorm, i bought a 2nd 89T for $55 on craigslist 04:07 < Ox40> That... takes every article in the DB and outputs it into a template... 04:07 < tsrk> i saw lots under $60 04:07 <+Nikky> Anything that uses I have a 83,(4x)83P, 83PSE, 84PSE, and a 86 04:07 <+Nikky> Ox40: wowowww 04:07 <+Nikky> that's really hard 04:07 <+Nikky> ou are so smart 04:07 < BrandonW> Four 83+s? 04:07 < Ox40> Nikky: show me what it would look like in perl. 04:07 < tsrk> uh 04:07 <+Nikky> Ox40: Okay. 04:07 < tsrk> maybe you should sell a few of those 04:07 < BrandonW> I have one 83+, one 83+SE, two 84+s, and two 84+SEs. 04:07 < Ox40> #!284@@@*$(@#)@@ PERL! 04:07 < TheStorm> they all have borked lcd's 04:08 <+Nikky> Ox40: Yes. 04:08 < tsrk> oh 04:08 < tsrk> how do you do that?? 04:08 < TheStorm> one doesn't work at all, well the calc turns on but not the screen 04:08 < glk> http://www.ticalc.org/pub/89/basic/ see math there 04:08 <+Nikky> And it wouldn't use that function s hit 04:08 < BrandonW> I have four 73s, 80, two 81s, 82, 83, what I said earlier, 85, 86, 89, 89Ti, 92, 92 with Plus module, Voyage 200, Nspire, and Nspire CAS+. 04:08 < tsrk> mine and some of my friends 84s have taken TONS of abuse and been fine 04:08 < Ox40> Nikky: procedural? 04:08 < Ox40> laemmm 04:08 < Ox40> Nikky: you forget, this is an MVC... 04:08 <+Nikky> Yes, PHP is lame. 04:08 <+Nikky> I'm glad youagree. 04:08 < tsrk> PHP is not lame -.- 04:08 < TheStorm> they were school calcs so they have had years of abuse 04:08 < tsrk> how do I specify arguments? 04:08 < Ox40> So, I have never seen a website that runs on perl. discuss. 04:09 < TheStorm> plus theya re jsut old 04:09 < Ox40> tsrk: thanks :) 04:09 < tsrk> test(Local foo, Local bar)? 04:09 <+Nikky> Ox40: Admins are retards. 04:09 < TD-Linux> Ox40, never visited slashdot? 04:09 < BrandonW> Just put the variable names in the (). 04:09 <+Nikky> calcg.org is almost all perl 04:09 < tsrk> and they'll already be local? 04:09 <+Nikky> the only php is on the index pages 04:09 <+mtgrss111> o_O 04:09 < Ox40> Nikky: .... thats why it sucks? 04:09 < BrandonW> Yes, tsrk. 04:09 <+Nikky> but fast! 04:09 < TD-Linux> slashdot is all perl 04:09 < Ox40> holy cow it is! 04:09 < tsrk> ok 04:09 < Ox40> THERE IS A WEBSITE! 04:09 < Ox40> wow... 04:09 < BrandonW> I wouldn't take what I say as gospel, it HAS been years. 04:09 <@_Auron_> .... 04:09 < tsrk> does whitespace matter? 04:10 < Ox40> its reallllly... crappy HTML 04:10 < BrandonW> Yes. 04:10 < tsrk> ok 04:10 < Barrett> um... ticalc.org is perl... 04:10 <+mtgrss111> all residents of the USA: Do you love your country, even in the condition it is now? Yes or no. 04:10 <+Nikky> that it is 04:10 < tsrk> thanks for all the help, it was really helpful :) 04:10 < glk> Any other 89 questions? 04:10 <+Nikky> vey awesome perl 04:10 < _Digital> I need to search through over 40000 text files for a string inside of them and then tell me which files those are. How do I do that in bash? 04:10 < tsrk> i'm sure i'll have more questions very soon 04:10 <+Nikky> on dual pentium pros 04:10 < tsrk> when I actually start writing a programs 04:10 < Ox40> mtgrss111: hell yeah 04:10 < glk> My ti-89 lessons will help you 04:10 <+mtgrss111> Ox40: me too. 04:10 < BrandonW> Wait'll you start getting into C. 04:11 < BrandonW> But don't use TI-GCC, use the new branch. 04:11 < _Digital> I'm not familiar with the multiple methods of syntax for if/then statements 04:11 < BrandonW> Down with Kevin Kofler. 04:11 < Ox40> mtgrss111: im disappointed in the liberals... 04:11 <+Nikky> I hate America. 04:11 < Ox40> Not our country. 04:11 <+Nikky> And I hate Kofler. 04:11 < Ox40> Nikky: seriously, you deserve to be burned alive. 04:11 <+Nikky> Why? 04:11 <+mtgrss111> It's seriously fucked-up right now. But I think we'll pull through :P 04:11 < TheStorm> well gnight all 04:11 -!- TheStorm [~TheStorm@CPE-24-167-219-81.wi.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:11 < BrandonW> It's okay, his country hates him. 04:11 < _Digital> Ox40, you should be right next to him like a bickering couple 04:11 < tsrk> glk, ok, i'll look at them too, thanks 04:12 < Ox40> I can't believe Nikky said that... "I hate America" 04:12 < Ox40> wtf? 04:12 <+mtgrss111> !find calculator porn 04:12 <+Nikky> I do. 04:12 < Ox40> what kind of loser are you? 04:12 < glk> This math area has many 89 lessons and programs I made 04:12 <+Nikky> Hate America. 04:12 < BrandonW> It's called "trolling." 04:12 < Ox40> Ya think so? 04:12 < Ox40> I can never tell. 04:12 <+mtgrss111> !qfind calculator porn 04:12 < BrandonW> After this long, I'm amazed you haven't caught on. 04:12 <@efneTI86> 1025:patz2009: BrandonW: Can I come to take pictures? | Fully-clothed ones, yes. | dang | I could pull out the calculators... | I still want to do that calculator porn site. 04:12 <@efneTI86> (All of 1 match) 04:12 <+Nikky> Hate all of the racist, bigots, assholes in America too. 04:12 < Ox40> Nikky seems liike the kind of person to be that big of an ass. 04:12 < BrandonW> http://www.calcporn.com/ 04:12 < _Digital> BrandonW_IQ++, Ox40------------------- 04:12 <+mtgrss111> o_O 04:13 < BrandonW> I'm working on it. 04:13 < tsrk> new question already: what's Custom/EndCustom? 04:13 < BrandonW> It's coming, folks. 04:13 < Ox40> lol BrandonW 04:13 < Ox40> fun stuff. 04:13 < BrandonW> tsrk, it lets you create a custom menu. 04:13 -!- _Auron_ changed the topic of #tcpa to: Welcome to #TCPA - The United States of TCPA | http://tcpa.calcg.org/ | The channel is currently infested with morons 04:13 < BrandonW> Which you get to from the CUSTOM button. 04:13 < BrandonW> That goes without saying, _Auron_. 04:13 < tsrk> oh, cool 04:13 < BrandonW> Or key, I should say. 04:13 < tsrk> i was wondering what that custom button is 04:14 < tsrk> can "forms" only have one thing in them? 04:14 < tsrk> dialog boxes, w/e 04:14 <+mtgrss111> BrandonW: it was interesting. a while back i had a temporary urge to make a dating sim for the calc. the community automatically assumed it would be hentai :P 04:14 < glk> The book tells how to make a program to make a custom menu. Run the program to make the menu 04:14 < BrandonW> You can use Custom:EndCustom right from the homescreen. In fact, when you tell the OS to reset it, it just pastes a line and you press enter to run it. 04:15 < glk> Change the program to change the menu and run it 04:15 < BrandonW> They can have all sorts of things, tsrk. 04:15 < tsrk> BrandonW, ok, i just noticed Dialog/EndDialog 04:15 < BrandonW> glk is a robot, if you hadn't noticed. 04:15 < glk> The book gives an example custom menu program 04:15 < tsrk> glk, ok 04:15 < tsrk> huh? 04:15 < tsrk> glk is a robot?? 04:16 < glk> Tin men have rights too 04:16 < tsrk> wtf 04:16 < BrandonW> Not literally, he's a crazy old man that gives out random calculator advice. 04:16 <+Netham45> !qadd glk is a robot, if you hadn't noticed. | Tin men have rights too 04:16 <@efneTI86> Quote 1511 added 04:16 < _Digital> retired professors ftw! 04:16 < glk> You are being lied to 04:17 <+Nikky> glk is awesome 04:17 < glk> I am old and very wise. 04:18 < BrandonW> So where was I lying?! 04:18 < tsrk> robot or not? i'm confused... 04:18 <+Nikky> not 04:18 < BrandonW> He's a real person. 04:18 < glk> I am not a robot 04:18 < BrandonW> We're pretty sure, anyway. 04:18 < BrandonW> I know I didn't code him. 04:18 -!- Dam\__ [~winterven@216.117.120.200] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 04:19 < glk> I like to teach math, calculators and physics 04:19 < tsrk> ok... 04:19 < BrandonW> I have a video of him being arrested by ATF agents. 04:19 < tsrk> where's the question mark? 04:19 <+Nikky> He does 04:19 <+Nikky> I've seen it! 04:19 < BrandonW> Anything you're not sure where it's at, you can get it from the CHAR menu. 04:19 < glk> I was framed 04:19 < tsrk> :O 04:20 < tsrk> BrandonW, ok, thanks 04:20 < glk> It was a movie I was in 04:20 < BrandonW> Or so he says. 04:20 < _Digital> what movie was that again? 04:20 < BrandonW> Don't tell me, wait.. 04:20 < BrandonW> Ambush in Waco or something like that. 04:20 < glk> In The Line Of Duty Ambush at Waco 04:20 < BrandonW> Wait, don't tell me. 04:20 < BrandonW> DAMN IT 04:21 < BrandonW> Now I have to find the video. 04:21 < glk> It is on cable about once a year 04:21 < BrandonW> I screwed up the audio unfortunately, but you can clearly see him. 04:21 < tsrk> how do I return a value? 04:21 < BrandonW> Return 04:21 < glk> display "x",x 04:21 < BrandonW> That displays one, not returns it. 04:22 < glk> A function can return a value 04:22 < BrandonW> You can apply a lot of 83/+ BASIC principles to it. 04:22 < BrandonW> We've established that. 04:22 < BrandonW> This is why I claim he's a robot. 04:23 -!- Dam\__ [~winterven@216.117.120.200] has joined #tcpa 04:23 < tsrk> if I do 'Request "enter x", x' how do I convert x to an integer? 04:23 <+prime> dam it 04:23 < tsrk> or number of some sort 04:23 < tsrk> so I can add it to something else 04:24 < Dam\__> Does Internet Explorer seven support SVG images out of the box? 04:24 < BrandonW> There are no conversions, it's a number when they enter it. 04:24 < BrandonW> If they wanted to enter a string, they'd have to use quotes. 04:24 <+prime> yea, automatic data typing 04:24 < glk> x remains a symbol unless a value is stored in it 04:24 < BrandonW> Like on the 83+. 04:25 < BrandonW> And yeah, functions have no user input. 04:25 < BrandonW> Anything like that and you want a program. 04:25 < glk> You can delete a variable on the home screen by delvar x,y,z or in Var Link menu 04:25 < BrandonW> If you can't use it in a complicated expression, you don't want a function. 04:25 < glk> f 04:26 <@chronomex> g 04:26 < glk> f(3) is a function f() is a program 04:26 < BrandonW> I debated with myself whether to do that, chronomex. 04:26 < BrandonW> LIES! Programs can get parameters. 04:27 < tsrk> it seems that Request is storing as a string even if I don't enter quotes 04:27 < tsrk> but expr(x) is working 04:27 <+prime> functions just dont output stuff until the end? 04:27 <@chronomex> and functions don't necessarily have parameters! 04:27 <@chronomex> though a function without parameters is sort of useless 04:27 < BrandonW> Functions output nothing, they return. 04:27 <+prime> where as programs can output any time? 04:27 < tsrk> i'll probably be using functions mostly 04:27 <@chronomex> programs can have side-effects and interact with the user 04:27 < tsrk> side effects? 04:27 <@chronomex> functions can't, because they have to be able to be e.g. graphed 04:27 < BrandonW> A function in an expression can be substituted for a value. 04:27 < i_c-Y> chronomex: not if the function sets up an environment - ie an init function 04:28 < BrandonW> Or rand() or what-have-you. 04:28 <@chronomex> i_c-Y: functions on the TI calculators 04:28 <@chronomex> BrandonW: point 04:28 < glk> Define f(a,b,c)= ... inputs three values f(2,4,7)to a b c 04:28 < tsrk> can a function leave global variables? 04:28 <+prime> now then, classes and structs on calculators 04:28 < BrandonW> What do you mean by leave them? 04:29 -!- \\BAF\IRC is now known as `` 04:29 <+prime> sup, `` 04:29 < glk> In a function, local is often used to not save internal variables 04:29 -!- `` is now known as \\\\ 04:29 -!- \\\\ is now known as `` 04:29 <+prime> sup, \\\\ 04:29 -!- `` is now known as ``` 04:29 <@chronomex> tsrk: that's breaking the idea of a function, but TI says it can 04:29 <+prime> sup, ``` 04:29 -!- ``` was kicked from #tcpa by _Auron_ [Stick with a nick or leave.] 04:30 <+prime> bye, ``` 04:30 <+Nikky> you nkow _Auron_ 04:30 * chronomex was about to do the same, but your kick message is better 04:30 <+Nikky> we have auto nick change scripts 04:30 <+prime> srsly 04:30 <+Nikky> I suggest you let those work 04:30 <+prime> dont take irc so srs 04:30 <@_Auron_> I got impatient with that. 04:30 <+Netham45> damnit 04:30 <+Nikky> I got impatient with you. 04:30 <@_Auron_> I love you. 04:30 <+Netham45> Exchange OWA completely fails to realize that IE isn't the only browser in existance 04:31 < BrandonW> Did you expect something different? 04:31 < BrandonW> I hate almost all of you. 04:31 <+Netham45> not really 04:31 <+Netham45> it goes into a limited mode in other browsers 04:31 <@chronomex> BrandonW: do you hate me? 04:31 <+Netham45> *sigh* 04:31 < BrandonW> Nope. 04:31 <+Netham45> guess I gotta use IE for it 04:31 <@chronomex> shit 04:31 <+Netham45> BrandonW, do you hate me? 04:32 < tsrk> anyone have any idea how I would go about making a normalcdf function? 04:32 < BrandonW> I hate you so much that I love you. 04:32 < tsrk> i don't know what it internally does :S 04:32 <+Netham45> <3 04:32 < BrandonW> If you don't know, I don't know. 04:32 <+Netham45> hmm, skype fails in Win7 04:32 <+Netham45> won't even install 04:33 < tsrk> uh 04:33 <+Netham45> oh, cool, the skype betas work 04:33 < tsrk> win7 just fails in general 04:33 < tsrk> wait, no 04:33 < tsrk> windows just fails in general 04:33 <+Netham45> ... 04:33 <@chronomex> skype fails too 04:33 <@chronomex> hard 04:33 < tsrk> at everything except windows programs 04:34 <+Netham45> your argument would have more leverage if you wern't on Ubuntu. 04:34 < tsrk> how so? 04:34 < tsrk> what do you have against ubuntu? 04:34 <+Netham45> it's noobish 04:34 < tsrk> how is it noobish? 04:34 < tsrk> what would/do you use? 04:34 <+prime> its linux 04:34 <+Netham45> it presents everything that it wants you to be able to do in an easy-to-use interface, and makes everything else nearly impossible. 04:34 <+prime> thats why its noobish 04:35 < BrandonW> Or as Barrett would say, it's Lunix. 04:35 <@chronomex> so does windows >.> 04:35 < tsrk> what does it make impossible? 04:35 <+Netham45> I would use Fedora, if I was forced to use that shit 04:35 < tsrk> and I don't use it for the interfaces 04:35 <+Netham45> but, thankfully, I have windows to use. 04:35 < BrandonW> Doesn't anyone want to know what I use? 04:35 < tsrk> i like debian based distros because of their package management 04:35 < tsrk> what do you use BrandonW ? 04:35 <@_Auron_> no 04:35 < BrandonW> I use XP Pro. 04:35 <+Netham45> do you use it for the stuck up elitist community? 04:36 < Merthsoft> I use Vista! 04:36 < tsrk> stuck up elitist community? 04:36 <+prime> linux is for the kids picked last in gym class; last in dodgeball, last in computing 04:36 < BrandonW> I tried to use Vista...but I just couldn't do it. 04:36 <+Netham45> tsrk, have you ever seen the Ubuntu community? 04:36 <+prime> BrandonW: same 04:36 < tsrk> prime, ok, whatever you say 04:36 <+Netham45> I used Vista for a while, then went back to XP 04:36 < tsrk> Netham45, unfortunately i have to say i try to avoid it, so maybe i know what you're talking about 04:36 <+Netham45> I'm using Windows 7 now 04:37 <+Netham45> tsrk, now, explain to me how windows fails. 04:37 <+prime> did they put an up button in their file explorer yet? 04:37 < tsrk> i use XP for my windows-only programs (itunes, games, now calc stuff) 04:37 <+Netham45> at anything other than windows programs... 04:37 <+Netham45> what else are you going to run? a mac package? 04:37 < BrandonW> I REFUSE to use iTunes. 04:37 < BrandonW> It is the devil. 04:37 < tsrk> Netham45, well, I just run into too many problems when I use it. It doesn't manage most stuff very cleanly. 04:37 <+Netham45> ^^ 04:37 <+prime> BrandonW: same 04:37 < BrandonW> THE DEVIL 04:37 < tsrk> BrandonW, unfortunately my ipod touch requires it :( 04:37 <+prime> fail 04:37 <+Netham45> tsrk, If you can't keep windows clean, then Linux isn't the OS for you. 04:38 <+Netham45> try a nice etch-a-sketch 04:38 <+prime> win 04:38 < BrandonW> My iPod Touch "requires" it, too, but thankfully they've finally come out with alternatives. 04:38 <+Netham45> one fuckup, and it's a shake away from a fresh intsall 04:38 <+Netham45> install* 04:38 < BrandonW> So I'm done with iTunes now. 04:38 < tsrk> Netham45, it's not a matter of me keeping it clean, it's a matter of its organization 04:38 < BrandonW> I highly suggest you look into them as well. 04:38 <+Netham45> tsrk, same statement still goes. 04:38 -!- obnauticu [~lol@c-24-22-20-142.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 04:38 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v obnauticu] by efneTI89 04:38 <@chronomex> Death to iTunes! 04:39 <+prime> tsrk: stop being a tard, linux has a place but it's not on PCs 04:39 <@chronomex> prime: not even my PC? 04:39 < tsrk> Netham45, I disagree. Windows has no standard way of doing most stuff. You get tons of duplicate code from programs that depend on the same libraries. Uninstalling doesn't every completely uninstall. 04:39 < BrandonW> If I were you, I would ignore almost everything these people have to say. 04:39 < BrandonW> It's not worth it. 04:39 < tsrk> BrandonW, what alternatives for the ipod touch? 04:39 <@chronomex> yeah, that's about the conclusion I came to 04:39 <+Netham45> tsrk, last time I used Ubuntu, a simple apt-get ended up with me getting 2 versions of glib 04:39 <@chronomex> tsrk: get a record player 04:40 < BrandonW> They have programs to interface with it now that don't require iTunes, you can google for them. 04:40 < tsrk> chronomex, i actually have one :P 04:40 <+Netham45> and there were like 4 package trackers that said I had conflicting versions 04:40 < BrandonW> It's been a while since I've dug into it. 04:40 <@chronomex> tsrk: ... use it? 04:40 < tsrk> Netham45, maybe i've just been lucky then. 04:40 <@chronomex> I have a friend with a laserdisc player, and we watch movies on it all the time 04:40 < tsrk> chronomex, no thanks 04:40 <@chronomex> at $2 from the used record store, they're cheaper than renting DVDs 04:40 <@chronomex> and faster than stealing them from online 04:40 < BrandonW> You can rent DVDs for $1. 04:40 <@chronomex> where? 04:41 < BrandonW> Redbox! 04:41 < BrandonW> At your local convenience store. 04:41 <@_Auron_> lol 04:41 < ryantmer> tsrk, I think Songbird supports the touch 04:41 <@chronomex> do they have a physical presence anywhere in my zipcode? 04:41 <+prime> how does redbox work? are they those time sensitive dyes? 04:41 <@chronomex> cos I've never heard of them 04:41 < BrandonW> Who knows, they're at my Wal-Mart and Walgreen's. 04:41 < i_c-Y> prime: they're regular dvd's 04:41 <@_Auron_> they're at walmart here 04:41 <@chronomex> bah, walmart and walgreens are both evil 04:41 < BrandonW> They're big red vending machines that you swipe a credit card at and it spits out DVDs. 04:41 <+Netham45> tsrk, there's 3 levels of people who compute. Level 1 -- Noob -- Thinks Windows is computer, unaware of Linux. Level 2 -- Semi-advanced -- Uses linux because it's different and harder. Level 3 -- advanced user -- Uses windows because everything works right, more developed, and more supported. 04:41 <+prime> so you really have to return them? 04:41 < BrandonW> You take them back a day later. 04:41 < i_c-Y> they're at a few local stores near my parents house 04:41 <@chronomex> BrandonW: oh, yeah, I remember using one of those a while ago 04:42 < BrandonW> I used them and didn't return the DVDs. 04:42 <@chronomex> but the selection was sort of limited 04:42 < BrandonW> It charges you $1 per DVD each day it's late. 04:42 <+prime> ah 04:42 < BrandonW> Up to $22 or something. 04:42 < tsrk> ryantmer, yeah, but I need something that supports apps/backing up too 04:42 <@chronomex> hrm 04:42 <+prime> i suppose a credit card is a must 04:42 < ryantmer> Netham45: You forgot the quotation marks around 'everything works "right"' 04:42 <@chronomex> then you've bought it, yes? 04:42 <@chronomex> yeah, there are two redbox locations in the city 04:42 < ryantmer> tsrk, yeah, I thought of that after I said it. Not sure it supports videos either :( 04:42 <+Netham45> ryantmer, you're a level 2 user, your opinion is inferior. 04:42 <+Netham45> :) 04:42 < ryantmer> :P 04:42 <@chronomex> and there are three record stores within five blocks of my friend's house, all with laserdiscs 04:42 < tsrk> oh 04:43 < BrandonW> No, chronomex, at that point SWAT teams break down your door and take it back. 04:43 <@chronomex> ah 04:43 <@chronomex> cos you've paid for them 04:43 < tsrk> Netham45, i personally find linux (well, at least ubuntu/debian, probably not other distros) different but easier 04:43 <+prime> !qadd <+Netham45> tsrk, there's 3 levels of people who compute. Level 1 -- Noob -- Thinks Windows is computer, unaware of Linux. Level 2 -- Semi-advanced -- Uses linux because it's different and harder. Level 3 -- advanced user -- Uses windows because everything works right, more developed, and more supported. 04:43 <@efneTI86> Quote 1512 added 04:43 <+jd19> ubuntu is pretty easy 04:43 < BrandonW> I'm a level 3! 04:43 <+Netham45> but it's so limited! 04:44 <+prime> *applause* 04:44 < tsrk> Netham45, how so? 04:44 <@chronomex> !q 04:44 <@efneTI86> 981: lies! | ftw [Added: TD-Linux at 2007/08/17 16:54] 04:44 <+Netham45> tsrk, I allready explained 04:44 < sir_lewk> I turned myself up to level 11 04:44 <+Netham45> check your scrollback. 04:44 <@chronomex> sir_lewk: 12 04:44 <+prime> !qfind linux 04:44 <@efneTI86> 1354:Merthsoft: Windows > OSX > Linux 04:44 <@efneTI86> 1069:aardvarq: will i be able to understand wtf i am doing when i'm using it | leofox: I thought you said you wanted linux. 04:44 <@efneTI86> 1334:Ox40: since when do they make jackets out of [pubic hair]? 04:44 <@efneTI86> (Plus 21 more matches: http://tcpa.aardy.net/quotes/?filter=linux&channel=tcpa&search=search) 04:44 <@chronomex> 24 quotes! 04:44 <@chronomex> !qfind girl 04:44 <@efneTI86> 1004:DSP_Lord: facebook is for hippies and girls. | the only thing i would do for facebook is make a goatse facebook | linking everything to goatse | and see how much lulz that creates 04:44 < sir_lewk> chronomex: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Up_to_eleven 04:44 <+prime> lame, it matched his name 04:45 <@efneTI86> 1312:Ox40: *** efneTI86 has changed the topic on #tcpa to "Welcome to #tcpa | http://ticalc.org | What is your type of girl?" | I could use One of those but then I'd have to install win 98 onto one of them... 04:45 <@chronomex> sir_lewk: I know 04:45 <@efneTI86> 445:froody: +[froody] hasn't even had his first kiss :( | [froody]: that would be along the way to first base, or at first base, I think | <+[froody]> Andy_J: oh? well... what about talking about sex with a girl? where's that? | That would be third. | You're too young to know what a home run is. 04:45 <@efneTI86> (Plus 21 more matches: http://tcpa.aardy.net/quotes/?filter=girl&channel=tcpa&search=search) 04:45 <@chronomex> ooh 04:45 <@chronomex> it's a tie between Linux and Girl 04:45 <@chronomex> let's see if we can fix that 04:45 < tsrk> Netham45, i haven't found anything that's really that hard to do 04:45 <+prime> tsrk: can you run CS4? 04:45 <+Netham45> tsrk, then install TiLP. 04:46 <+prime> lol, yea 04:46 < Milyardo> hrmmmmm..... 04:46 < tsrk> prime, except windows programs 04:46 < tsrk> Netham45, ok, you got me there 04:46 < tsrk> well 04:46 <+prime> configure sendmail 04:46 < tsrk> prime, done 04:46 < Milyardo> A tie between linux and girl, I think that raises more questions than it answers 04:46 < BrandonW> TiLP sucks. 04:46 <+Netham45> I configured my mail stuff today too 04:46 < BrandonW> I commend the TiLP developers for giving us an alternative... 04:46 <@_Auron_> !qadd !qfind linux 04:46 < BrandonW> A little piece of me inside dies whenever I bash TiLP... 04:46 <@efneTI86> Quote 1513 added 04:46 <@chronomex> BrandonW: you're usually so helpful and informative ... 04:46 < BrandonW> But it really does suck. 04:46 <@_Auron_> oops 04:46 <@_Auron_> !qdel 1513 04:47 <@efneTI86> Deleted quote 1513 04:47 <+prime> lol 04:47 <@chronomex> right, it does 04:47 <@_Auron_> nm, I'm tired 04:47 * _Auron_ leaves 04:47 < BrandonW> I'm not being helpful and informative right now? 04:47 < tsrk> BrandonW, have you managed to get it to work at all? 04:47 < BrandonW> Yes. 04:47 <+Netham45> I've managed to get TiLP to work on Windows 04:47 < tsrk> transfer files? 04:47 -!- i_c-Y [Icy@cpe-69-204-242-163.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:47 <+Netham45> but couldn't get it on Linux 04:48 < BrandonW> I wrote the 84+/SE direct USB ROM dumper but Kevin Kofler won't take the time to recompile TiLP and test it. 04:48 < tsrk> oh 04:48 < BrandonW> For TiLP, I mean. 04:48 <+Netham45> KK wrote TiLP? 04:48 < BrandonW> He maintains it. 04:48 < tsrk> Netham45, same here unfortunately 04:48 <+Nikky> Kofler is such a dick. 04:48 <+Netham45> that's why it sucks... 04:48 < BrandonW> using "maintain" loosely. 04:48 -!- zeropod [~zeropod@fiber-64.201.86.25.lhtot.com] has quit [Quit: brbbl] 04:49 -!- blankie [~myname@d207-6-186-113.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 04:49 < BrandonW> If I had all the time in the world I'd write my own. 04:49 <+Nikky> fork it 04:49 <+Netham45> !qfind the c 04:49 <@efneTI86> 786:DarkAuron: I use a TI-89T. Ask if you want my data on it | do you have data on how easy it is to open the case? when compared against a traditional TI-89 case? | no | I'd be much interested in such data 04:49 <@efneTI86> 858:Andy_J: sup? | * MikeKnoop has joined #tcpa | the ceiling | <+MikeKnoop> the floor | MikeKnoop, you're upside down. | <+MikeKnoop> oh! | <+MikeKnoop> the ceiling 04:49 < BrandonW> And feel the wrath of his constant bashing because I never put any time into it? 04:49 <@efneTI86> 1231:sjrberg: Worship Jesus? What happened to me? | Thou shalt have no other gods before me! | BrandonW: You didn't die on the cross for me | asshole | I'm going to hell. :( 04:49 < BrandonW> I won't commit to it. 04:49 <+prime> BrandonW: what are you working on, i know you are working on something 04:49 <@efneTI86> (Plus 46 more matches: http://tcpa.aardy.net/quotes/?filter=the c&channel=tcpa&search=search) 04:49 < Milyardo> Forking where? set me up a todo list and some sources and I'll get to forking 04:49 <+Netham45> !qfind the c++ 04:49 <@efneTI86> 1091:DSP_Lord: The C++ has a stack! 04:49 <@efneTI86> (All of 1 match) 04:50 * Netham45 luls 04:50 < BrandonW> I can't remember why I said that. 04:50 <+Netham45> someone said it didn't have a stack If I recall correctly 04:50 <+Nikky> Me neither. 04:50 < tsrk> on topic: why does my TI89 have all these random variables that I didn't create? 04:50 <+Netham45> If I recall correctly 04:50 <+Netham45> wtf 04:50 <+prime> other programs make them 04:50 <+Nikky> tsrk: Programs 04:50 < tsrk> answer, cstfldrs, delme, entered, list1/2/3/4/5/6 04:50 <+Nikky> And the OS will do that too 04:50 <+Netham45> why's xchat suddenly turn iirc into If I recall correctly 04:50 < BrandonW> Applications create them, too. 04:51 <+prime> and if you exit prematurely, or they dont clean up the get left there 04:51 < BrandonW> This is part of why BASIC sucks. 04:51 < BrandonW> You don't get that crap with assembly/C programs. 04:51 < tsrk> oh 04:51 < BrandonW> But really it means those developers suck, because they have no execuse. 04:51 -!- blankie [~myname@d207-6-186-113.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #tcpa 04:51 < BrandonW> Since they can have local variables. 04:51 < tsrk> what apps should I have for calculus, stats, and science? 04:51 <+prime> heh 04:52 < BrandonW> ticalc.org has all the answers. 04:52 <+prime> lets, see, mathematica, matlab 04:52 <+prime> umm 04:52 <+Nikky> ticalc knows all 04:52 < BrandonW> It's best to just scour the archives and find something you like. 04:52 < tsrk> mathematic for the calc? 04:52 < tsrk> mathematica* 04:52 <+prime> no 04:52 < tsrk> oh 04:52 < tsrk> i mean on this thing 04:52 < BrandonW> He only gives smartass answers. 04:52 <+prime> no! 04:52 < tsrk> oh... 04:52 <+prime> he didnt say what kind of app 04:52 < BrandonW> This is not any less smartassish. 04:53 <+prime> i'm sorry you feel that way 04:53 <+Nikky> Ne tii, 04:53 <+Nikky> sgihykd we ban prime? 04:54 < BrandonW> I say we just kill him. 04:54 <+Nikky> k 04:55 * Netham45 grabs a shotgun 04:55 < tsrk> is this channel always like this? 04:55 <+Nikky> No, we're being very weird tonight 04:55 < BrandonW> Yes, I'm sorry to say. 04:55 < BrandonW> I left it because of it. 04:55 < BrandonW> I'm here now mostly because you keep asking questions. 04:55 < BrandonW> I usually lurk in #tiasm, #cemetech, and others. 04:56 < tsrk> what's #cemetech? 04:56 <+prime> BrandonW: did you get my messages? 04:56 <+Netham45> speaking of #cemetech, Nikky, you should unban me from the CG botnet 04:56 <+Nikky> Too much work. 04:56 < BrandonW> It's the channel for cemetech.net, a calculator site run by Kerm Martian. 04:56 < BrandonW> prime, yes. 04:56 <+Nikky> Chris Mitchell, you mean 04:56 <+Nikky> Don't encourage him with his alter ego 04:57 < BrandonW> Sorry. :( 04:57 < BrandonW> I came to yell at Andy_J, but apparently he died. 04:58 * chronomex frowns 04:58 <+Netham45> call him 04:58 < BrandonW> If I had a number. 04:58 <@chronomex> I think I have one somewhere 04:58 <+Netham45> I have a number 04:58 <+Netham45> 867-5309 04:58 <@chronomex> BrandonW: see PM 04:58 <+prime> area code? 04:58 <+Nikky> BrandonW: See PM 04:58 <+Netham45> 800 04:58 <+prime> hah 04:58 <@chronomex> Netham45: no, 500 04:59 < BrandonW> (423) 895-4779 04:59 < BrandonW> If you call it, I won't hear it, it's in the other room. 04:59 < BrandonW> I'll get it in a minute, though. 04:59 <@chronomex> pity 04:59 < glk> My url has years of Mathematica data 04:59 * Nikky texts BrandonW 05:00 <+Netham45> My url has minutes of Drupal configuration 05:00 <@chronomex> My URL has a few directories of gopherspace 05:00 < BrandonW> My URL has years of calculator data. 05:01 <+prime> my url is yet to exist, i hope yahoo.com isnt taken 05:01 <+Netham45> BrandonW, I've actually used that Xbox page you have up there a couple time 05:01 <+Netham45> times* 05:01 <+Netham45> it's quite informative 05:01 < BrandonW> Yeah, it was mostly from memory...I should've documented it as I went along. 05:01 < BrandonW> But I didn't know I'd actually get it working. 05:01 <+Nikky> It's good enough. 05:01 < BrandonW> I have another motherobard that might be dead, if I can find the time to try and repeat history. 05:02 < BrandonW> motherboard* 05:02 <+Netham45> I built a PSU based off of your diagram 05:02 <+Netham45> since the PSU in my xbox died 05:02 <@_Auron_> 35 bits per electron, nice. 05:02 <+prime> yea, that is crazy 05:03 <+Netham45> BrandonW, "I had to use a program called xboxhd" you mean XboxHDm, right? 05:04 < BrandonW> I can't remember. 05:04 < BrandonW> Name might've changed since I used it. 05:04 <+Netham45> weird linux-dos LiveCD? 05:04 < BrandonW> Yes. 05:04 <+Netham45> yea, I don't know if it changed names, but it's XboxHDm now 05:04 <+Netham45> Xbox Hard Drive Maker 05:04 < BrandonW> That was such a bitch to get working, I went through like four towers to find one that would lock/unlock the drive. 05:05 <+Netham45> I ended up using an old Pentium II 05:05 < BrandonW> Well, to find one that would actually boot the CD and lock/unlock the drive. 05:05 <+Netham45> I have a 250GB drive in mine 05:06 < BrandonW> A couple of towers would hang at different stages in booting. 05:06 <+Netham45> I only tried 2 computers, heh 05:06 < BrandonW> Mine's only 10GB...used to have 13GB, but that one broke and the 10GB was all I had. 05:06 -!- mtgrss111 [~Administr@c-98-194-46-169.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [] 05:06 <+Netham45> have you chipped yours? 05:06 < BrandonW> I now have two working ones, the one from that page is now chipped, the other is soft-modded. 05:07 < BrandonW> I have two more with bad DVD drives. 05:07 < BrandonW> And then that motherboard. 05:07 <+Netham45> if it's chipped, you should just be able to put a HD lock indiferent BIOS on it 05:07 <+Netham45> and put whatever size in 05:07 <+Netham45> I have 2 xboxes and a 360 05:07 < BrandonW> Yeah, it's not a problem, I just don't have a spare drive. 05:07 <+Netham45> both of the xboxes softmodded 05:07 < BrandonW> I have a 360, PS3, and Wii. 05:08 < BrandonW> The 360 has that impossibly hard to flash drive. 05:08 <+Netham45> I hav a PS3 and a 360 05:08 < BrandonW> I bought a chip for the Wii but never put it in. 05:08 <+Netham45> my 360 has a flashed drive 05:11 < BrandonW> I haven't even turned the 360 on in forever. 05:11 < BrandonW> Spilled Mountain Dew on it, too...for all I know it doesn't even work anymore. 05:11 <+Netham45> I was playing yesterday 05:11 < BrandonW> It was the limited edition Halo 3 360. 05:12 <+Netham45> what's running your site? 05:12 <+Netham45> drupal? 05:13 < BrandonW> Nothing runs it, it was all done in notepad by me. 05:13 <+Netham45> ah 05:13 <+Netham45> nice 05:14 -!- Desensiti [~Desensitz@ip98-169-72-48.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #tcpa 05:14 < Desensiti> where can i get a truegray image creator? 05:14 < BrandonW> For what? 05:15 <+Netham45> truegray is a grayscale program for the 83/84's 05:15 < Desensiti> for the image viewer on ti 05:15 < Desensiti> i know 05:15 <+Netham45> I was telling BrandonW 05:15 < Desensiti> but i cannot manage to create the bitmaps 05:16 < BrandonW> It looks to me like it comes with a console application to do it. 05:16 < Desensiti> i know 05:16 < BrandonW> You asked where you can get one. 05:16 < Desensiti> but i need 24 bit 7 color bmp 96 by 64 images 05:16 -!- blankie [~myname@d207-6-186-113.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 05:16 < Desensiti> and i cannot make those to save my life 05:16 -!- HelDragon [~Nocebo@modemcable022.187-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:16 < BrandonW> So use a standard image manipulation program to convert it. 05:16 < BrandonW> Download Paint.NET. 05:16 -!- HelDragon [~Nocebo@modemcable022.187-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #tcpa 05:17 < Desensiti> i g2g to school 05:17 < Desensiti> ill try that and if it doesnt work ill come back later 05:18 <@chronomex> at this hour? 05:18 <+Netham45> funny, I g2g to bed. 05:18 < BrandonW> Where in the world are you? 05:18 < Desensiti> well bed 05:18 <@chronomex> you're in DC, yes? 05:18 < Desensiti> yeah 05:18 < Desensiti> i gotta go to bed not school lol 05:18 < Desensiti> im tired as fuck 05:18 <@chronomex> mmkay 05:18 <@chronomex> night 05:18 < Desensiti> not making sense 05:18 <@chronomex> that IS tired 05:18 <@chronomex> all confused 05:18 < Desensiti> haha yeah 05:18 < Desensiti> i tried cs2 and gimp and no luck but maybe this will do it 05:19 <+Netham45> dude, use ms paint 05:19 < TD-Linux> truegray is extremely finicky 05:19 < TD-Linux> I've only gotten ms paint to work 05:19 < TD-Linux> and running the exe on windows 05:19 <+Netham45> well 05:19 <+Netham45> i gotta go to bed 05:20 -!- blankie [~myname@d207-6-186-113.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #tcpa 05:21 -!- TD-Linux [~wheeeeeee@96-42-68-26.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 05:22 <+prime> gimme an image now 05:22 <+prime> and ill try to convert 05:29 -!- tr1p1ea [tr1p1ea@124-254-96-226-dsl.ispone.net.au] has joined #tcpa 05:32 < Merthsoft> tr1p1ea! 05:32 < Merthsoft> you guys have 14 light traffic lights in australia! 05:33 <@chronomex> wtf? 05:34 -!- Andy_J [~andy@24.140.125.157] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 05:34 < _Digital> Merthsoft, don't believe everything you read on teh internet 05:34 < Merthsoft> that's why i'm asking 05:34 < Merthsoft> oh right 05:34 < Merthsoft> that "!" should be "?" 05:35 * Dam\__ still longs for his own to-himself room. 05:36 <@_Auron_> ? 05:37 <@_Auron_> hate being in a dorm room? 05:37 <@chronomex> parents' room 05:37 < Dam\__> Having a roommate who is the founder of his own metal band isn't necessarily that great. 05:37 -!- Andy_J [~andy@24.140.125.157] has joined #tcpa 05:37 -!- mode/#tcpa [+o Andy_J] by efneTI86 05:41 <@_Auron_> lol 05:44 -!- pyromania [~pyromania@c-98-228-126-113.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 05:45 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v pyromania] by efneTI85 05:47 < tr1p1ea> 14 light? 05:50 -!- snowman [~snowman@rdbk-15592.mtaonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:59 -!- snowman [~snowman@rdbk-15592.mtaonline.net] has joined #tcpa 06:00 <+obnauticu> heh 06:00 <@efneTI92> [snowman] http://jrush.dyndns.org/isaac/ 06:10 < BrandonW> You have a kid? 06:10 <@chronomex> yeah, he does 06:10 < BrandonW> Calculators...offspring...this doesn't compute. 06:11 <@chronomex> well, that's what he says, I haven't personally verified it 06:11 <+Nikky> Milyardo and asmand have kids too 06:11 <@chronomex> apparently he's an architect too, or something 06:11 < BrandonW> Oh, well, in that case... 06:11 <+Nikky> BrandonW has kids too. 06:11 <+Nikky> He just doesn't know it yet. 06:11 < BrandonW> I do have a kid. 06:11 * chronomex wonders when M_V will have childerens 06:11 <+Nikky> Me! 06:11 * chronomex wonders how long it is after that event that Nikky gouges out his eyes with a spoon 06:11 < Barrett> someone needs faster up-pipe 06:12 < Milyardo> Kids are cool 06:12 -!- Andy_J [~andy@24.140.125.157] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 06:13 <+Nikky> Bye andy 06:13 <+Nikky> FOREVER 06:13 < BrandonW> NOOOOOoooooooo... 06:14 < Dam\__> Sad music turn on. 06:14 < BrandonW> Whenever he comes back, we'll have http://wikiti.brandonw.net/ 06:14 <+prime> does anyone remember that webgame where you guessed words that were simialr to eachother 06:14 < _Digital> snowman, just change your infoline to either url I provided you if you like so people know the mirror 06:14 <@chronomex> wheeee 06:14 <+Nikky> whoo 06:14 <+Nikky> finally BrandonW 06:15 < BrandonW> And at the same time, the SVN repository. 06:16 < snowman> will do, thanks :) 06:16 <+prime> ah, it was http://shygypsy.com/farm/p.cgi 06:17 < Milyardo> Begin my desktop is better than your discussion 06:17 < Milyardo> http://acm.umflint.edu/~zpowers/zion/ 06:19 < BrandonW> You should be ashamed of yourself for pairing some ancient CRT with that radioactive thing. 06:19 < Milyardo> :( 06:19 -!- Andy_J [~andy@24.140.125.157] has joined #tcpa 06:20 -!- mode/#tcpa [+o Andy_J] by efneTI86 06:20 < Milyardo> I plan on buying a new Monitor 06:20 <@chronomex> Milyardo: might also help to remove fingerprints from the lens 06:21 < Milyardo> chronomex: Never noticed any 06:21 * Milyardo looks at his phone 06:21 < _Digital> Milyardo, specs of Zion? 06:21 <@chronomex> well you've got some insane bloom there 06:21 < Milyardo> http://zilog.ath.cx/phpsysinfo 06:22 < _Digital> chronomex, could be a really old digital camera 06:22 < Milyardo> I know, I thought i was because I can't keep my hand still 06:22 < Milyardo> _Digital: Its a cell phone camera 06:22 < _Digital> uber cheap ccd then 06:23 <@chronomex> and probably a shitty lens too 06:23 < _Digital> likely 06:23 < Milyardo> but yeah, I can see the fingerprints on the lense from a mile away 06:24 < _Digital> atlas isn't much to look at from an aesthetic point of view... 06:26 -!- Netham45 [~Netham45@c-71-229-253-50.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:26 -!- Netham45 [~Netham45@c-71-229-253-50.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 06:26 -!- HamSvr45 [~Netham45@c-71-229-253-50.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Write error: Connection reset by peer] 06:27 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Netham45] by Remius 06:29 < snowman> _Digital: changed, and thanks for the suggestion :) 06:38 -!- Dam\__ [~winterven@216.117.120.200] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:46 <@_Auron_> lol my gpu driver crashed 06:48 < Milyardo> mines been crashing more too lately 06:48 < Milyardo> stable my ass nvidia 06:49 <@_Auron_> mm, mirror's edge has nice photorealism in its textures and lighting 06:49 -!- Dam\__ [~winterven@216.117.120.200] has joined #tcpa 06:49 < Dam\__> Wow. Charter's offering sixty megabits per second. 06:51 < Milyardo> no Wow 06:51 <@_Auron_> http://darkauron.dyshost.com/Images/Screenshots/ME_01.jpg 06:51 < Milyardo> DOCSIS 3 can offer speeds up to 400Mb/s 06:51 < Dam\__> Where's that? 06:52 -!- Spengo [~Spengo@64.251.244.180] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:52 <@_Auron_> Dam\__: hm? 06:52 < Milyardo> where's the other 340? 06:52 <+prime> i dont think it's released yet 06:52 < Dam\__> _Auron_: Oh, it is a game. Holy crap, that looks friggin' real. 06:52 <+prime> i wonder if you can cable hack that 60mbps line 06:52 <@_Auron_> yes. :X 06:52 <@_Auron_> in-game screenshot 06:53 <@_Auron_> you run up that dirt hill to get to the area above 06:53 <@_Auron_> and then through a door to a stairwell that is also connected to the part where there's a tightrope outside you slide down 06:53 <@_Auron_> then you climb up a building elsewhere in the area and jump over a barbed-wire fence 06:53 -!- Spengo [~Spengo@64.251.244.180] has joined #tcpa 06:53 <+prime> those orange pipes look so... HL2ish 06:53 <@_Auron_> prime: lol 06:54 -!- tr1p1ea [tr1p1ea@124-254-96-226-dsl.ispone.net.au] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 06:56 -!- Dam\__ [~winterven@216.117.120.200] has quit [Quit: "No reason remains for us to stay." (0AD)] 06:57 < Milyardo> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOCSIS#Speed_Table 06:58 < Milyardo> The fact that 60Mb/s is being heralded as an achievement is a slap in the face to the intelligence of every American 06:58 < Milyardo> _Auron_ agrees 06:59 <@chronomex> 45mbits/sec was the target for 2001 06:59 <@chronomex> it's why we gave the telcos $200 billion in tax cuts and rate hikes 06:59 <@chronomex> what do we have to show for it? 07:00 -!- Goplat [~goplat@76-191-156-24.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has quit [Time left until the Apocalypse: 28yrs 51wks 3days 20hrs 13mins 33secs] 07:00 <@chronomex> exactly 07:01 < Milyardo> :( 07:01 <+prime> maybe you know chronomex, are there program to model the internet 07:01 < Milyardo> ns2 07:01 <+prime> and in my closed system i could do anything 07:01 <@chronomex> prime: are you planning to make sense any time soon? 07:01 <+prime> yes 07:01 <@chronomex> when? 07:01 < Milyardo> prime: ns2 07:02 < Milyardo> http://isi.edu/nsnam/ns/ 07:02 <+prime> like for example i could assign my computer whatever ip address i wanted 07:02 <+prime> connect two computers that way 07:02 <@chronomex> ummm, what? 07:02 <+prime> one with 1.1.1.1 and the other 1.1.1.2 07:02 <@chronomex> you mean like a VPN? 07:02 <+prime> no 07:03 <+prime> like i would control the internet in my model 07:03 <@chronomex> yeah 07:03 <+prime> the "entirety" of the internet 07:03 <@chronomex> take a bunch of computers and connect them to each other 07:03 <+obnauticu> nuts 07:03 <+prime> i could allocate ip clusters 07:03 <+obnauticu> how to calculate tan(pi/4) by hand 07:03 <+obnauticu> is it err 07:03 <+obnauticu> 1/sin 07:03 <+obnauticu> or sin/cos 07:03 <+prime> chronomex: yea, but that usually only works for private ips 07:03 <@_Auron_> http://darkauron.dyshost.com/Images/Screenshots/ME_02.jpg 07:04 <+prime> Milyardo: thanks 07:04 <+prime> i had to explain to chronomexican 07:04 < glk> There is a series for Tan(x) 07:05 <+prime> tan is sin/cos 07:05 < glk> Look up infinite series 07:05 <+prime> glk, sin and cos on pi/4 is well known 07:06 <+prime> on=of 07:06 <+prime> actually, so is tan 07:06 -!- Barrett [~berto_cha@75-165-233-129.slkc.qwest.net] has quit [] 07:06 <+obnauticu> oh i see 07:06 <+obnauticu> ya, but i need to calculate ALL of those in my head ofr a test tomorrow. 07:07 <+prime> unit circle 07:07 <+prime> or memorize the graphs and the important numbers 07:07 <+prime> which is what i did 07:07 < Milyardo> Yeah unit circle 07:08 < Milyardo> probably the best pnumonic decice 07:08 < Milyardo> *device 07:08 <+prime> unit circle is..eh 07:08 < glk> http://library.thinkquest.org/16284/ad_trig.htm?tqskip1=1 *trig lessons 07:08 < glk> http://www.ping.be/~ping1339/gonio.htm trig lessons* 07:08 < glk> http://www.efnet-math.org/math_tech/trig0.html trig identities * 07:08 <@_Auron_> and finally http://darkauron.dyshost.com/Images/Screenshots/ME_03.jpg 07:08 < glk> Try these 07:08 <+prime> wow, i dont think he needs any trig identities 07:08 <+obnauticu> That looks lime Mirror's edge 07:09 <@_Auron_> lime? 07:09 <+obnauticu> ya 07:09 <@_Auron_> and it is mirror's edge, hence the ME_ filename 07:09 < Milyardo> _Auron_: You take these screenshots yourself? 07:09 <@_Auron_> yep 07:09 < Milyardo> WHat kind of rig do you have o.o 07:09 <@_Auron_> phenom 8450 x3 (triple core) at 2.1ghz, and a 512mb radeon hd 4850 07:10 <@_Auron_> 2GB of DDR2-800 RAM 07:10 <+prime> hell yea, HD4850 07:10 <+prime> you can get two of them for $220 nowadays 07:10 <@_Auron_> I bet 07:10 < Milyardo> Nice, I was thinking of buying a 4850 07:10 <@_Auron_> anyhow yeah, mirror's edge is sooooo pretty O_o 07:10 <+prime> yea, ati pwns now 07:10 < Milyardo> but I hear ATi drivers are still as abysmal as ever 07:10 <+prime> ehh.... 07:10 <@_Auron_> heh 07:11 <+prime> i dont know 07:11 < Milyardo> eerrr 07:11 < Milyardo> drivers for Linux 07:11 <@_Auron_> newest catalyst includes openGL 3.0 07:11 <+prime> i think they just added opengl 3 07:11 <+prime> ya 07:11 < Milyardo> that was an important part 07:11 < Milyardo> Windows Drivers I'm sure are fine 07:11 <+prime> what else do you need? 07:11 <+prime> obviously that card is for gaming ---> windows 07:12 < Milyardo> prime: I don't own a copy of Windows? 07:12 <+prime> ill sell you xp pro, $30 07:12 <+prime> new legit key 07:12 < Milyardo> o__o 07:12 <+prime> or vista buisness $50 07:12 <+prime> or server 2008 for...$100 07:13 < Milyardo> If I wanted it I could buy XP Pro for $15 and Vista Ultimate for $20 at school 07:13 < Milyardo> but I don't want to buy it 07:13 <+prime> then do it 07:13 <+prime> k 07:13 < Milyardo> <3 Linux 07:13 <+prime> :o 07:14 <+prime> oh well 07:14 <+prime> you can go nvidia and pray the card doesnt melt on you 07:14 < Milyardo> I haven't had too many problems with my 8600M GT 07:15 < Milyardo> http://acm.umflint.edu/~zpowers/25howto/25deploy-playingAA.png 07:15 < Milyardo> http://acm.umflint.edu/~zpowers/WoW.png 07:15 <@_Auron_> I imagine mirror's edge with 8xAA would look skeetastical 07:15 <@_Auron_> and motion blur 07:16 -!- snowman [~snowman@rdbk-15592.mtaonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:16 < Milyardo> _Auron_: I'd imagine motion sickness would also start to set in as well 07:17 < Milyardo> I know I get it from just enabling motion blur with compiz o____o 07:18 < Milyardo> _Auron_: I plan on buying a Phenom II soon 07:18 < Milyardo> hope its worth the money 07:19 <@_Auron_> heh 07:19 <@_Auron_> I hear the phenom II isn't 07:19 < Milyardo> Well the 2.8 is sub $200 07:20 < Milyardo> thats not that much I guess 07:20 < Milyardo> but the Agena's have droped to $130 and below 07:21 <+prime> ATI HD4870 X2 is like woah 07:21 <@_Auron_> I thought geforce 280s were sick 07:21 <+Nikky> Meh, it's ATI though. 07:21 <@_Auron_> and much better than 4870 07:22 <+Nikky> Milyardo: Motion blur is awesome. 07:22 <@_Auron_> ohshi, 295 is out 07:22 < Milyardo> I want to buy an Ati card just to assist in radeonHD development 07:22 <@_Auron_> that's inasne 07:22 <@_Auron_> insane* 07:22 < Milyardo> so I think if I don't go Ati, I'll get a 4350 to dev on 07:22 <+prime> wtf 295 is 285x2 ?? 07:23 < Milyardo> *if I don't go Ati for my main box 07:23 <+prime> go to hell nvidia numbering scheme 07:23 < Milyardo> no 260x2 07:23 <+prime> srsly 07:23 <+prime> w.f.f. 07:24 <@_Auron_> lol 07:25 <+prime> did they start the new line with 260 and 280? 07:25 <+prime> i think that's right 07:25 < Milyardo> don't know why they started in the 200's though 07:26 <@_Auron_> because 9800 is too big of a number to continue going past 10k 07:26 < Milyardo> just like how ATi started the radeons with the 7050 07:26 < Milyardo> wtf 07:26 <@_Auron_> numbers never make sense 07:26 <@_Auron_> just ignore them and carry on 07:26 <+prime> AND there were like 3 versions of the 260 07:27 <+prime> one with more shaders, and one with a smaller die 07:28 < Milyardo> _Auron_: NOw I have to go play Oblivion :( 07:28 < Milyardo> because I saw too many of your screenshots 07:31 -!- snowman [~snowman@rdbk-15592.mtaonline.net] has joined #tcpa 07:31 <@efneTI92> [snowman] http://jrush.dyndns.org/isaac/ mirrored at http://atlas64.selfip.net:8080/Mirror 07:31 <+obnauticu> err prime what is cot? 07:32 <+Nikky> xlike a portable bed 07:35 <@_Auron_> Milyardo: hahaha 07:35 <@_Auron_> Nikky: did you just use the letter x to sound out the word it's? 07:36 <+prime> cot=cotangent 07:36 <@_Auron_> lolwtf @ xkcd 07:36 <+Nikky> _Auron_: xyes 07:37 <+prime> cot = cos/sin 07:37 <@_Auron_> Nikky: you're such a dweeb 08:21 <@E-J> http://www.techeblog.com/index.php/tech-gadget/feature-double-barreled-lego-k-nex-minigun-fires-58-rubberbands-per-second 08:26 -!- Spengo [~Spengo@64.251.244.180] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:27 -!- Spengo [~Spengo@64.251.244.180] has joined #tcpa 08:30 <+obnauticu> E-J DO WANT 08:35 <@_Auron_> well we're all up late 08:36 <@E-J> _Auron_: i just woke up 08:36 <@E-J> after good 11h sleep 08:51 < nicolas_> morning 08:51 -!- nicolas_ is now known as nicolas 08:57 <+obnauticu> heh 08:57 <+obnauticu> what's the period of the function y=sin5x 08:59 -!- glk [~glk@adsl-70-234-141-110.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net] has quit [grahamkendall.net/ my url] 09:03 <@_Auron_> mm 11h sleep, sounds yummy 09:11 < nicolas> obnauticu: that's pretty easy ... take the period of sin(x) and divide it by 5 ;-) of course, you shuold understand why, or it's pointless 09:12 <@_Auron_> makes complete sense 09:21 <+obnauticu> nicolas ya.... i'll get to work on that we haven't covered it yet in my hs class 09:21 <+obnauticu> it's extra credit, though. 09:42 <@_Auron_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iBL2Hrb-Q8&NR=1 09:42 <@_Auron_> lmfao 09:47 <@E-J> _Auron_: btw, ordered that free wii thing, it works so poorly that i went back to orginal one 09:56 <@_Auron_> orly 09:57 <@_Auron_> I haven't tried mine yet 10:02 -!- obnauticu [~lol@c-24-22-20-142.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [] 10:08 < nicolas> what free wii thing is this ? 10:28 -!- smart_ [~smart@c-76-110-92-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:33 -!- smart_ [~smart@c-76-110-92-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 10:53 -!- benryves [~benryves@host81-157-218-48.range81-157.btcentralplus.com] has joined #tcpa 10:53 -!- mode/#tcpa [+o benryves] by efneTI86 11:13 <@E-J> nicolas: http://www.eforcity.com/gninwiixsb01.html 11:19 -!- _Digital [~DC@pool-71-165-124-42.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: _Digital] 11:21 <@benryves> Heya E-J 11:23 <@E-J> heya benDR 11:41 -!- leofox [leofox@leofox.student.utwente.nl] has joined #tcpa 11:41 <@efneTI92> [leofox] All we do in hell is play DDR! 11:50 -!- Tyler3 [~nexon@residence-204-172.henday.ualberta.ca] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 12:25 -!- Desensiti [~Desensitz@ip98-169-72-48.dc.dc.cox.net] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 12:40 -!- zeropod [~zeropod@fiber-64.201.86.25.lhtot.com] has joined #tcpa 12:40 <@efneTI92> [zeropod] Look! It's Captain Sarcasm, Master of the Universe! 12:47 < zeropod> mornin 12:47 <@benryves> Heya zeropod 12:48 < zeropod> heya benryves! 12:50 <@benryves> How's it going? 12:52 < zeropod> Been better, you? 12:52 <@benryves> Not bad thanks, what's up? 12:53 < zeropod> Just woke up 12:53 < zeropod> You? 12:54 <@benryves> Not much 12:55 < zeropod> Fun 13:13 -!- zeropod [~zeropod@fiber-64.201.86.25.lhtot.com] has quit [Quit: brbbl] 13:14 -!- zeropod [~zeropod@fiber-64.201.86.25.lhtot.com] has joined #tcpa 13:20 < zeropod> !t Welcome to #TCPA - http://tcpa.calcg.org/ - "Just deal with it." 13:20 -!- efneTI86 changed the topic of #tcpa to: Welcome to #TCPA - http://tcpa.calcg.org/ - "Just deal with it." 13:25 -!- i_c-Y [~Icy@cpe-69-204-242-163.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa 13:42 -!- i_c-Y [~Icy@cpe-69-204-242-163.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:51 -!- zeropod [~zeropod@fiber-64.201.86.25.lhtot.com] has quit [Quit: brbbl] 13:52 -!- zeropod [~zeropod@fiber-64.201.86.25.lhtot.com] has joined #tcpa 13:53 < Ox40> g'morn 13:53 < zeropod> mornin 13:54 <@benryves> 'lo Ox40 13:54 < Ox40> meh... I should eat something before work. I work at 8:30. What should i eat? 13:55 <@benryves> A ham. 13:55 < zeropod> bagel and creamed cheese 13:55 <@E-J> a squirrel 13:55 < Ox40> mmmm zeropod, good idea 13:55 <@benryves> E-J: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4835690.stm 13:55 < Ox40> But, I dont have any. 13:55 < Ox40> PB&J it is. 13:55 < Ox40> :P 13:55 < zeropod> ok 13:56 < Ox40> or some Cocoa Dino Bites? 13:56 < Ox40> Or fruity Dino Bites 13:56 <@E-J> benryves: i remember that 13:56 <@E-J> benryves: didn't you say that brits don't eat anything that looks lovely? 13:56 <@E-J> like deers 13:57 < Ox40> OR, Cinnamin Toasters? 13:57 <@benryves> E-J: Grey squirrels are OK, as they're American. 13:57 < Ox40> lol 13:58 <@E-J> benryves: in finland squirrels change their colour, in winter they are grey, in summer they are brown 13:58 < zeropod> steak and cheese breakfast burrito 13:58 < Ox40> mmmmmmmm omnomnom 13:58 < zeropod> or 13:58 < zeropod> THICK COCK 13:59 < Ox40> ........ 13:59 <@benryves> E-J: Cunning. :) 14:00 < Ox40> That's pretty awesome actually. 14:00 < Ox40> time to get dressed..... 14:03 <@E-J> http://aski.hut.fi/~relamsa/orava/100_0002.html this is finnish squirrel at winter 14:04 <@benryves> Your squirrels have big ears, too. :D 14:04 < Ox40> lmfao 14:04 < Ox40> They do.... 14:04 <@E-J> british ones maybe don't look like same and their utter sounds are more like "oi!" 14:04 < Ox40> Ours are cutest... 14:04 <@benryves> Most squirrels in the UK are the big, ugly grey. 14:05 <@benryves> ie, the American ones. 14:05 < Ox40> mmhm 14:05 < Ox40> but, that one E-J... is kinda cute, except the pointy elf-ears 14:05 <@benryves> I've never seen a red squirrel in the wild in the UK (I have in France, though). 14:05 < Ox40> I have...... once :P 14:06 <@benryves> American badgers are seriously weird looking, too. 14:06 < Ox40> http://www.inkycircus.com/jargon/images/grey_squirrel.jpg 14:06 < Ox40> Super Squirrrrrellllll 14:06 <@benryves> Compare http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Badger with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Badger 14:07 < Ox40> WHY is my internet so sloooowwwww 14:07 < Ox40> hahaha benryves,. 14:07 < Ox40> ours are MUCH more badass 14:08 <@E-J> Ox40: http://www.tunturisusi.com/orava/kuva5.jpg 14:08 <@benryves> We've got a (?) badger in our garden, it sets off the flood lights occasionally. :) 14:08 < Ox40> lmao E-J... awesome. 14:09 < Ox40> its... an elf-squirrel. 14:09 < Ox40> or, a squirlf, if you will. 14:09 < Ox40> gotta goooo 14:10 <@E-J> i don't know if i have ever seen wild badger, only elks, squirrels, hedgehogs, foxes, brown hares, rats 14:12 <@E-J> http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiedosto:Keqs_hedgehog_PICT3774.jpg 14:12 < zeropod> wow 14:12 < zeropod> seattle earthquake 14:12 <@benryves> E-J: I've not seen hedgehogs in the wild in the UK, seen them in France though. :) 14:13 <@benryves> We've also got a very noisy owl in the garden that hoots all night long. 14:14 < zeropod> wonder if Nikky is dead 14:14 -!- Netham45 was kicked from #tcpa by Andy_J [colors] 14:14 -!- Netham45 [~Netham45@c-71-229-253-50.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 14:14 -!- Netham45 was kicked from #tcpa by Andy_J [autorejoin] 14:14 -!- Netham45 [~Netham45@c-71-229-253-50.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 14:14 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Netham45] by efneTI85 14:14 <@benryves> E-J: You live in the city, though? 14:15 <@Andy_J> what's great is I didn't even have to scroll up to see the colors 14:15 <@Andy_J> they were in my hilight window 14:15 < zeropod> !k Netham45 because I can't kick Andy_J for kicking you severly late 14:15 -!- Netham45 was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [Zeromus: because I can't kick Andy_J for kicking you severly late] 14:15 -!- Netham45 [~Netham45@c-71-229-253-50.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 14:16 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Netham45] by efneTI85, Remius 14:16 <@Andy_J> there's no statute of limitations on colors. 14:16 <@benryves> Heya Andy_J :D 14:16 < zeropod> heh 14:16 <@Andy_J> hi 14:16 <@Andy_J> I only got about 3+3 hours of sleep last night :( 14:16 < zeropod> I got 3 14:16 <+jd19> i also slept quite poorly 14:17 <@Andy_J> My digestive tract will not cease rumbling >:( 14:17 < zeropod> people in seattle had very bad sleep! lol 14:17 <@Andy_J> and I'm out of dew 14:17 <+jd19> my problem is that my girlfriend woke up at 4:30, and when she woke up, i couldnt get back to sleep 14:18 <@E-J> benryves: sort of, i live in espoo which is in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Helsinki, but there is much nature around 14:18 -!- mode/#tcpa [+b *!*zeropod@*.201.86.25.lhtot.com] by E-J 14:18 -!- zeropod was kicked from #tcpa by E-J [that's not good reason] 14:18 -!- mode/#tcpa [-b *!*zeropod@*.201.86.25.lhtot.com] by E-J 14:19 -!- zeropod [~zeropod@fiber-64.201.86.25.lhtot.com] has joined #tcpa 14:19 < zeropod> Nobody ever has a problem with it except sgt d 14:20 <@benryves> E-J: You showed a birds-eye photo on Live Maps a while back. :) 14:20 <@E-J> yep 14:20 <@E-J> all those animals i said, i have seen in this same area 14:21 <@E-J> fox and several hares in helsinki, elks in vantaa, etc 14:21 <@E-J> and hedgehog in espoo http://aski.hut.fi/albums/04-otasuunnistus-E-J/100_0032.sized.jpg 14:22 <@E-J> password as/mopo 14:23 <@benryves> Heh, cool. :D 14:24 -!- ports_ [~ports@abl13.foods.uiuc.edu] has joined #tcpa 14:24 -!- mode/#tcpa [+b *!*@*.foods.uiuc.edu] by SnowCrash 14:24 -!- ports_ was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [Banned: cool your heels for a week.] 14:24 <@benryves> So I see today is a day for kicking and banning. 14:24 -!- zeropod [~zeropod@fiber-64.201.86.25.lhtot.com] has quit [Quit: brbbl] 14:25 <@Andy_J> That one was yesterday 14:25 -!- zeropod [~zeropod@fiber-64.201.86.25.lhtot.com] has joined #tcpa 14:26 -!- zeropod [~zeropod@fiber-64.201.86.25.lhtot.com] has quit [Client Quit] 14:27 -!- snowman [~snowman@rdbk-15592.mtaonline.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 14:27 -!- zeropod [~zeropod@fiber-64.201.86.25.lhtot.com] has joined #tcpa 14:29 < Merthsoft> FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK 14:29 <@Andy_J> no u 14:29 < Merthsoft> I have to pay 835 bucks to fix my feckin' car 14:30 -!- Netsplit hub.efnet.us <-> irc.vel.net quits: Grue`, zeropod 14:30 -!- Grue`_ [~steve@adsl-75-16-87-143.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #tcpa 14:30 < Merthsoft> i took it in because it has no heat 14:30 < Merthsoft> and now i may not even get the heat fixed 14:30 <@Andy_J> new car 14:30 < Merthsoft> i'm still playing this one off 14:30 < Merthsoft> paying 14:30 <@Andy_J> fail 14:31 <@Andy_J> get a bumper to bumper next time <_< 14:31 -!- snowman [~snowman@rdbk-15592.mtaonline.net] has joined #tcpa 14:31 < Merthsoft> yeah 14:31 < Merthsoft> well 14:31 < Merthsoft> really sketchy dealer who's out of business now anything 14:32 <@Andy_J> that's why a third party does it 14:32 < Merthsoft> oh 14:32 < Merthsoft> well, next time i'll do that 14:32 < Merthsoft> that doesn't help me this time, though 14:33 < Merthsoft> if everyone sent me 30 dollars! 14:33 <@E-J> it's so nice to live in area where public transport works so well that you don't need a car 14:34 <@benryves> E-J: Turn smug factor up to 11. :P 14:34 < Merthsoft> E-J: That means you probably have money to spare! DOnate to the Fix Merthsoft's Car fund today! 14:34 <@benryves> 'lo Merthsoft 14:34 < Merthsoft> !t Welcome to #TCPA - http://tcpa.calcg.org/ - "Just deal with it." | Donate to the "Fix Merthsoft's Car" fund today! Current donations: $0.00 14:34 -!- efneTI86 changed the topic of #tcpa to: Welcome to #TCPA - http://tcpa.calcg.org/ - "Just deal with it." | Donate to the "Fix Merthsoft's Car" fund today! Current donations: $0.00 14:34 < Merthsoft> hi benryves 14:35 <@E-J> Merthsoft: i don't have money to spare, my study grants end on march and i don't know where i'm going to work next summer 14:36 -!- sir_lewk_ [~jlg95@tux64-02.cs.drexel.edu] has joined #tcpa 14:36 <@efneTI92> [sir_lewk_] http://www.cs.drexel.edu/~jlg95 I have much DATA in VELOCIRAPTORS AND PHILOSOPH 14:36 < Merthsoft> E-J: :( 14:36 * sir_lewk_ pokes sir_lewk 14:36 < sir_lewk_> you bastard, you're alive arn't you 14:36 -!- rivereye [~Rivereye@c-24-11-113-194.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 14:36 <@efneTI92> [rivereye] Is it time to go fishing? 14:37 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v rivereye] by efneTI80 14:37 < sir_lewk_> why can't I log into your machine sir_lewk? >:( 14:38 < sir_lewk_> cawks 14:39 -!- mode/#tcpa [-b *!*@*.foods.uiuc.edu] by efneTI85 14:40 -!- sir_lewk_ [~jlg95@tux64-02.cs.drexel.edu] has quit [Client Quit] 14:54 -!- sir_lewk_ [~jlg95@tux64-02.cs.drexel.edu] has joined #tcpa 14:55 <@efneTI92> [sir_lewk_] http://www.cs.drexel.edu/~jlg95 I have much DATA in VELOCIRAPTORS AND PHILOSOPH 14:56 * sir_lewk_ pokes sir_lewk 14:56 < sir_lewk_> gaaaawd 15:00 < sir_lewk_> why does it hate me? :( 15:07 -!- Merthsoft [~Shaun@140.141.26.108] has quit [Ping timeout: 202 seconds] 15:08 -!- sir_lewk [~jlg95@tux64-01.cs.drexel.edu] has quit [Lost terminal] 15:10 < sir_lewk_> haha, killed the bastard 15:10 -!- sir_lewk_ is now known as sir_lewk 15:14 <@benryves> You suicidal maniac. 15:15 < sir_lewk> :) 15:15 < sir_lewk> logging into tux64-01 I was getting the banner after authenticating and shit, but bash wasn't running :O 15:15 < sir_lewk> (I'm on tux64-02 right now) 15:16 < sir_lewk> I managed to get a dumb-terminal open to 01 and kill -9'd my screen session 15:16 < sir_lewk> (all through ssh of course) 15:20 <+jd19> well done, sir 15:20 < sir_lewk> mmhm 15:20 < sir_lewk> course now I don't have my scrollback >:( 15:20 < sir_lewk> I don't use screen'd irssi sessions just so I can waste time killing them. I think I need to bitch at the admin again 15:23 <+jd19> heh 15:23 <+jd19> why can't you just use your own box 15:24 < sir_lewk> I don't have a box I can keep on 24/7 15:25 < sir_lewk> all I have right now is my laptop that goes back and forth between home and work with me 15:28 <+jd19> ooh i see 15:28 <+jd19> that makes sense then 15:30 <@E-J> sir_lewk: and those commersial ones are too expensive? 15:31 < sir_lewk> commercial hosts? 15:32 < sir_lewk> I havent really looked at anything. I'm just a poor college student so I'm using my CS account 15:32 <@E-J> yep, in finland we have places like kapsi.fi 15:35 < sir_lewk> I'll definetly have to consider something like that 15:36 <+jd19> theres like a billion shell providers out there... 15:37 <+jd19> i run windows on my desktop, and i have gentoo running in vmware, so i just ssh into that 15:37 -!- kirsk [~krisk@j239072.upc-j.chello.nl] has joined #tcpa 15:38 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v kirsk] by Remius 15:38 < sir_lewk> hmm 15:38 < sir_lewk> I have a gentoo box I keep around to uses as a private server for crap like this, I don't have anywhere to hook it up right now though 15:39 <+jd19> if you haven't used it in awhile, you'd probably have to do some massive updating 15:39 <+jd19> which can suck on gentoo 15:39 <+kirsk> can do some massive updating, dont have to 15:43 <+jd19> i like to keep things fairly up to date... 15:43 <+jd19> its easier with something like ubuntu 15:44 <@benryves> As easy as Windows/ 15:44 <@benryves> ? 15:44 <+kirsk> lol updating windows 15:44 <+jd19> it's pretty much the same thing as windows as far as i'm concerned 15:45 <@benryves> Mm, cool. :) 15:45 <@E-J> benryves: updating ubuntu is about same as windows, except no boot required 15:45 <+jd19> notifies you when updates are available, pretty much one-click updates 15:45 <+kirsk> only updating ubuntu is actually usefull 15:45 <@benryves> How is updating Windows not useful? 15:46 <+kirsk> by lacking any and all use 15:46 <@benryves> Other than fixing bugs or adding features. 15:46 <+kirsk> nope 15:46 <+jd19> i fixed some chick's computer yesterday, and by "fixed", i mean i formatted and restored and got windows updates and installed avg 15:47 <+jd19> windows updates are useful heh 15:47 <@benryves> E-J: That is rather irksome. I mean, you don't even have to reboot to install video card drivers. :\ 15:47 <+jd19> the good thing about distros like ubuntu is that they get all your software updates too unless you installed manually 15:47 <+kirsk> you can get them even then though 15:48 <@benryves> jd19: Yeah, I wish MS pushed .NET and DirectX updates over WU. :\ 15:48 <+kirsk> that might have some use 15:48 <@benryves> It's just Windows, Office, Live and so on. 15:48 <@benryves> Oh, and Visual Studio. 15:49 < BrandonW> I'm not sure Visual Studio updates are on Windows Update. 15:49 <@benryves> BrandonW: Hm, maybe it's just MSSQL 15:50 <@benryves> Visual Studio's Help->Check for Updates goes via WU, which is irritating as it opens in your default browser. 15:52 <@benryves> Visual Studio is one app where I wished they hard-coded it to use IE, but oh well. :P 15:53 <+jd19> benryves: i thought they did push .NET updates? 15:53 <+kirsk> anyone know the url of that site with anonymous secret messages written on postcards and stuff> 15:53 <+jd19> i thought i saw an optional update out there for me 15:54 <@benryves> jd19: They may release fixes for existing installations of .NET, but not new versions. 15:54 <+jd19> ah i gotcha 15:54 <+jd19> my windows 7 VM is going all funky on me... 15:54 <+jd19> probably because i'm trying to use a host USB device 15:55 <@benryves> They release new D3DX DLLs with every new SDK release as well, and those aren't pushed over WU. 15:56 <+jd19> i guess i've never really paid too much attention to the .NET and directx stuff 15:57 -!- Goplat [~goplat@76-191-156-24.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has joined #tcpa 15:57 <@benryves> BrandonW: Hang on, you're in here? May I bend your ear on the subject of USB? :) Dan_E said I need to "reset the USB port status" in the ISR; what did he mean by that? 15:57 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Goplat] by Remius 15:58 < BrandonW> I usually come in for a specific reason (this time to get a WikiTI dump from Andy) and then idle until disconnected. 15:58 < BrandonW> I'm not sure what he meant by that. 15:59 < BrandonW> I would look at the OS 2.43 ISR and see what port outputs it makes. 15:59 < BrandonW> But it's different depending on the event. 15:59 < BrandonW> Did you ever find out which one was firing for you? 15:59 < BrandonW> From the values of ports 55h and 56h. 15:59 <@benryves> I can't, I don't own a TI-84+ 16:00 <@benryves> All I know is that it "crashed", though Dan_E is talking about a freeze. 16:00 < BrandonW> Yeah, but you could write something that freaks out when the values of those ports change and displays some numbers to the user which he/she can report back to you. 16:00 < BrandonW> Whoever you're getting to test it. 16:00 < BrandonW> If you have no one to test it, then...I'll be your guinea pig. 16:02 <@benryves> Cheers. :) My current ISR is http://tcpa.pastebin.com/m40dc17f2 - which doesn't do anything especially exotic. 16:02 -!- Ox40Work [~KevinK@68-117-29-62.static.fdul.wi.charter.com] has joined #tcpa 16:03 <+kirsk> oxxx 16:03 < Ox40Work> !topic Welcome to #tcpa - http://tcpa.calcg.org/ - "Just deal with it." - Donate to Ox40's "I'm freaking broke" fund today! Current donations: -$750.00 16:03 -!- efneTI86 changed the topic of #tcpa to: Welcome to #tcpa - http://tcpa.calcg.org/ - "Just deal with it." - Donate to Ox40's "I'm freaking broke" fund today! Current donations: -$750.00 16:04 < Ox40Work> kirskkkk! 16:04 < sir_lewk> pffft, I'm broke too 16:05 <@benryves> BrandonW: A freeze sounds plausible if the USB hardware asserts /INT and I never acknowledge it, though. I was going on the assumption that there was a crash, however. 16:06 <@E-J> 2 work applications for summer jobs made 16:07 < sir_lewk> nice! anything interesting? 16:07 <+kirsk> im broke and need 800 euros 16:07 <@E-J> just abb and abloy 16:10 < BrandonW> I think Dan might be assuming you know what event is firing, so you should deal with it like the OS deals with it. 16:10 < BrandonW> I highly recommend coming up with some test cases and narrowing it down a little bit and then see what the OS does in those situations. 16:11 <@benryves> BrandonW: Mm. It's just difficult when you don't have an 84+ ;) 16:12 < sir_lewk> you can probably pick one up on ebay relatively cheapish 16:12 <@benryves> £87.27+£23.03 P&P 16:13 <@benryves> So, no, not really. :( 16:13 < sir_lewk> :-/ 16:14 <@benryves> They drop to about £50-£60 if you buy them from the US, but then P&P is even more expensive. 16:14 < sir_lewk> oh, I know 16:14 < sir_lewk> buy a little baggy of pot, then trade the pot for an 84 with some highschool kid 16:14 < sir_lewk> :P 16:15 <@benryves> Highschool kids won't have 84+es either 16:15 <@benryves> The regular 83+ is still king 16:15 < sir_lewk> eh, a lot do over here 16:15 <@benryves> UK <> US, though. :\ 16:15 < sir_lewk> yeah 16:16 < sir_lewk> I got my 86 for $10 and a bag of cookies 16:16 <@E-J> benryves: when i was in that age, the king was ti-86 or ti-85 16:16 <@benryves> Probably why there are only three results for the TI-84+ on UK eBay and hundreds on the US one. 16:16 < sir_lewk> oh, and a spare 83+ I had 16:16 <@benryves> E-J: Mmm. :) 16:16 <@E-J> no-one used 83s 16:16 < sir_lewk> the 86 is sooo awesome 16:16 <@E-J> most people though had that casio one 16:17 < Ox40Work> mmm i want cookies! 16:17 < sir_lewk> I've seen a lot of 82s (mostly school owned), a few 83+s, many 84+s, and ooooocasionally an 89 16:17 <@benryves> Huh, http://tinyurl.com/c4b2ng 16:17 < sir_lewk> one girl had an HP48 I think, that was nice 16:17 < sir_lewk> sfw? 16:18 <@benryves> sir_lewk: Yeah, eBay 16:18 <@benryves> I don't like the "Item must be returned within: 3 days" bit, though, that could be tricky from the UK. :\ 16:18 <+kirsk> you know you can preview tinyurl right 16:19 < sir_lewk> yeha, I'm lazy 16:19 <@benryves> kirsk: Or just know that I'm not the sort of cretin that posts NSFW links withuot warning people. 16:19 < sir_lewk> and trying to pretent like I'm working 16:20 < sir_lewk> hmm, I'd go for it 16:20 < sir_lewk> that's pretty cheapish 16:21 <@benryves> I'll see. :) 16:25 <@benryves> BrandonW: In any case, I assume this means I'll need to handle something (or back up registers and pass control to the TI-OS?) There's no way to simply disable the USB hardware? 16:26 < Ox40Work> 16:26 < Ox40Work> Good idea? 16:26 < Ox40Work> bad idea? 16:26 < Ox40Work> ok idea? 16:27 <@benryves> BuKuRoutingManager? 16:27 < Ox40Work> jup 16:27 <+kirsk> just call header() ? 16:27 <@benryves> What does that even mean? 16:27 < Ox40Work> kirsk: its a framework... 16:27 < Ox40Work> for a reason :P 16:27 <@benryves> I'd go with kirsk's suggestion, but at least fix the HTTP header (Location, not location). 16:27 < Ox40Work> benryves: why use header? 16:27 <+Nikky> Seattle earthquake? 16:28 < Ox40Work> when I can have a function? :P 16:28 <+Nikky> First I heard about that! 16:28 <@E-J> Nikky: you didn't feel a thing? 16:28 <+kirsk> because your function there acts like header can only change the location with a redirect 16:28 <+Nikky> No 16:28 <+Nikky> How big was it? 16:28 <+kirsk> it can do so much more that you dont allow for 16:28 < Ox40Work> kirsk: well, I just typed that out here... 16:28 <+Nikky> oh, a 4.6 16:28 <+Nikky> psh 16:28 < Ox40Work> I havent actually MADE it yet. I could have it do anything... 16:28 <@benryves> Ox40Work: It's pretty redundant. (Also, I really dislike PHP's variable insertion thing in "" strings, but that's beside the point). 16:28 < Ox40Work> benryves: I love it! :P 16:29 <+Nikky> PHP sucks. 16:29 <+kirsk> well when you go make it youre essentially going to reprogram the header function but with a different name 16:29 <+Nikky> Besides, I was asleep at 5:25, gosh 16:29 <@benryves> Ox40Work: If you must use it, header("Location: {$to}"); 16:29 <+kirsk> thats pointless waste of time even for a framework 16:29 <+kirsk> yeah i prefer "".$ 16:29 < Ox40Work> $foo = ''.$text.''; 16:29 < Ox40Work> I HATE that 16:30 <+Nikky> use perl 16:30 <+Nikky> Since when was this #php? 16:30 < Ox40Work> cya Nikky 16:30 <+kirsk> lo Nikky 16:30 < Ox40Work> kirsk: I could log the redirect, I can do anything... 16:30 <+Nikky> Except learn perl 16:30 <+Nikky> superior in all ways 16:30 <+kirsk> then at least just do myFun($arg){ header( $arg ) //other stuff } 16:30 < Ox40Work> plus, the function will make sure that no content is output... its all about consistency. I dont want a developer to have to use header("Location.... 16:31 <@benryves> Ox40Work: '' . $text . ''; ? 16:31 < Ox40Work> benryves: lame 16:31 <+kirsk> bah @ ' 16:31 <+kirsk> its not a char so just use " 16:31 < Ox40Work> "{$text}" 16:31 <@benryves> kirsk: Erm, this is PHP, not C. 16:31 < Ox40Work> yay 16:31 <+kirsk> exactly 16:31 < Ox40Work> YAY for my code 16:31 < Ox40Work> benryves: too many quotes... 16:31 <@benryves> kirsk: Then why do you say "its not a char so just use ""? 16:32 < Ox40Work> benryves: Unexpected " 16:32 <+kirsk> because ' reminds me of c-like chars 16:32 <+kirsk> and has no use anyway 16:32 < Ox40Work> Did you forget to escape a quote? 16:32 <@benryves> kirsk: Then learn the difference between C and PHP :P 16:32 < Ox40Work> "its not a char so just use \"" 16:32 < Ox40Work> :) 16:32 <+kirsk> i know the diferent 16:32 < Ox40Work> "foo'{$bar'}'" > "foo'".$bar."'" 16:32 <+kirsk> ' has no use other than making php look even worse 16:33 <@benryves> Then you would know that ' has plenty of use. 16:33 < Ox40Work> er... "foo'{$bar}'" > "foo'".$bar."'" 16:33 <+kirsk> i know it does something 16:33 <+kirsk> but ".$ is infintely better 16:33 < Ox40Work> kirsk: why? 16:33 <@benryves> " is a special type string that performs expansion of escape sequences. For regular literals you do not need it, so just use ' 16:34 < Ox40Work> benryves: jup. literals I use 16:34 < Ox40Work> WAIT 16:34 <+kirsk> because you end up mixing it 16:34 < Ox40Work> Why are we arguing? 16:34 <+kirsk> which is horrible 16:34 < Ox40Work> I never use ECHO _at all_ 16:34 < Ox40Work> so, its pointless 16:34 <+kirsk> " is always better and escape characters should be handled more intelligently than ' 16:34 < Ox40Work> I would NEVER have echo "{$text}"; in my code anyways 16:34 <@benryves> kirsk: It's irrelevant. Both have different uses. 16:34 <+kirsk> well how about INSERT INTO `'{$fail}'` 16:35 <+kirsk> im not saying they dont have uses 16:35 <+kirsk> im saying the existence of " makes ' pointless even though it does something else 16:36 <@E-J> if anyone of you live near these cities http://www.swallowthesun.net/2007/index.php?id=13 go and see them 16:36 < Ox40Work> kirsk: "INSERT INTO `{$win}` values({$val})" > "INSERT INTO `".$fail."` values(".$val.")"; 16:36 <+kirsk> see no need for ' 16:36 <@benryves> Ox40Work: Both of which are horrible. 16:36 < Ox40Work> kirsk: except when you want a quote in the string 16:36 <+kirsk> \" 16:36 < Ox40Work> kirsk: nooooo 16:36 <+kirsk> yesssss 16:36 < Ox40Work> :P 16:36 <+kirsk> or use the charcode 16:36 < Ox40Work> I meant "benryves: noooo" 16:37 < Ox40Work> I never have to escape quotes in my method 16:37 <+kirsk> { is also horrible 16:37 < Ox40Work> I never have to use . as concat in my method... 16:37 <@benryves> Ox40Work: Yes, you should be using prepared queries or parameterised queries. 16:37 < Ox40Work> perfect. 16:37 <+kirsk> in 4 years of php "programming" ive honestly never ever had to use { or ' 16:37 < Ox40Work> benryves: well, thats a different story. 16:37 < Ox40Work> But, ig you are just using queries.... '{$foo}' > * 16:38 < Ox40Work> So, camelCase, under_scoring_vars, or AllCapitals ? 16:38 <+kirsk> ive also never seen them in anyone's code of people who actually work at places 16:38 <+kirsk> i only ever see ' or { in fail free tutorial copy paste bullshit code 16:38 <+kirsk> well certainly not AllCaps 16:38 < Ox40Work> lol 16:38 <@benryves> $db->query('INSERT INTO `{0}` SET `x`=\'{1}\'', $table, $_POST['x']); 16:38 < Ox40Work> I was just going to say AllCaps > * 16:39 <@benryves> In PHP, I use under_scored_names 16:39 <+kirsk> camelCase is superior because difference between instance and class identifiers 16:39 <+kirsk> but i like _ too 16:39 <@benryves> In C# I use the official guidelines, which is UpperCamelCase for everything apart from parameters which are lowerCamelCase. 16:39 < Ox40Work> benryves: yep 16:39 < Ox40Work> but... 16:39 <+kirsk> usually when the environment is a script ill prefer that but when its object/framework oriented i use camelcase 16:40 < Ox40Work> WAIT, did you just say programmers should use $_POST input directly?! 16:40 <+kirsk> why not 16:40 <@benryves> Ox40Work: No. If you look closely you'll see that's clearly a parameterised query. 16:40 < Ox40Work> In my framework, im using BukuRequestManager::Dispatch() and the like 16:40 <+kirsk> you can filter in it without having to refer to it by a different identifier 16:40 < Ox40Work> benryves: blehrgh 16:40 <@benryves> Ox40Work: Meaning? 16:41 <+kirsk> but then how does that query function perform the mysql_query? 16:41 <@benryves> The $db->query() method runs mysqli_real_escape_string on all its arguments. 16:42 <@benryves> kirsk: Regexps + mysqli_real_escape_string 16:42 <+kirsk> thats not what i mean 16:42 < Ox40Work> either way, my framework is totally OO 16:42 < Ox40Work> so, you dont run queries.... the framework makes them anyways.... 16:42 <+kirsk> you mentioned prepared queries 16:43 < Ox40Work> $user = new User(); $user->username = $_POST['username']; $user->password = $_POST['password']; 16:43 <+kirsk> like calling a stored procedure/query would be nice example 16:43 < Ox40Work> $user->add(); 16:43 <+kirsk> rather than illustrating it with a query function that could just as well perform a horrible query 16:43 < Ox40Work> stored procedures - as cool as they are - are a PITA to set up 16:43 <+kirsk> yes 16:43 < Ox40Work> AWESOME to use... 16:43 <+kirsk> you can automate it though 16:43 < Ox40Work> but, not so awesome if you are making a framework ;) 16:43 <+kirsk> xml -> procedures -> called by framework 16:43 < Ox40Work> meh 16:44 < Ox40Work> yeah 16:44 < Ox40Work> you are right 16:44 <@benryves> kirsk: Oh, until comparatively recently our code had to target MySQL 3.23. 16:44 <+kirsk> i dont prefer it though 16:44 < Ox40Work> But, I need to find a TemplatePower that supports looping and conditionals... 16:44 <+kirsk> templatepower does? 16:44 < Ox40Work> yeah, but thats... in the php. 16:44 <+kirsk> well conditionals only to an extend 16:44 <+kirsk> uhm ok 16:45 <+kirsk> i think ive explained a good way to handle that before 16:45 < Ox40Work> ok, I lied. 16:45 < Ox40Work> nvm 16:45 < Ox40Work> I think I ... I think im just going to have multiple templates 16:45 < Ox40Work> like 'user_grid.tpl'... 16:45 <+kirsk> hehe you still dont? 16:45 < Ox40Work> so, I dont have to have conditionals 16:45 <+kirsk> (well, theres your problem ;)) 16:45 < Ox40Work> Nah, impoll has 1 template (well, two... main.tpl and embed.tpl) 16:45 <@benryves> Quite a lot of our code is rather Heath Robinson thanks to having to run on PHP 4. :\ 16:47 <+kirsk> i dont believe any logic should be in the templates anyway 16:47 <+kirsk> just make blocks that can be used by the view logic and thats it 16:47 <+kirsk> vars for actual values of course 16:48 < Ox40Work> mmhm 16:48 < Ox40Work> I made an extension of TemplatePower 16:48 < Ox40Work> called BuKuView 16:48 < Ox40Work> so $view = new BuKuView('user_grid'); 16:48 <+kirsk> ok 16:48 < Ox40Work> $view->newBlock('user'); 16:48 < Ox40Work> $view->username = $user->username; 16:48 < Ox40Work> :) 16:48 <+kirsk> i would extend further on that with xxView extends BukuView 16:49 <@benryves> Ox40Work: WTF is "BuKu"? 16:49 < Ox40Work> my framework 16:49 <+kirsk> name 16:49 <@benryves> What does it mean? 16:50 <@E-J> bukkage kugels 16:50 <@benryves> Ox40Work: I guess you're not going to be embracing PHP 6 in that case. :) 16:50 <+kirsk> ? 16:50 < Ox40Work> benryves? namespaces? 16:50 <+kirsk> also BLAH @ the 's 16:51 < Ox40Work> HELL NO 16:51 <@benryves> PHP 6 introduces namespaces, putting PHP almost on the level of Perl. 16:51 <+kirsk> perl sucks 16:51 < Ox40Work> BuKu\Foo::bar() ? 16:51 < Ox40Work> lame 16:51 < Ox40Work> They need to FIX php before EXTENDING it 16:51 <@benryves> Perl is a beautiful language in comparison to PHP. 16:51 < Ox40Work> it should be BuKu.Foo.Bar(); 16:51 <+kirsk> english is a beautifull language 16:51 < Ox40Work> not BuKu\Foo->bar() 16:51 <@benryves> Ox40Work: Nuking the site from orbit would be a good start. :P 16:51 < Ox40Work> lame 16:51 < Ox40Work> benryves: mmhm 16:52 < Ox40Work> seriously, if they FIXED the inconsistencies, it would be great 16:52 <@benryves> Ox40Work: Indeed, and you can't chain statements either which is hugely irritating. 16:52 <+kirsk> how is using some symbols differently such a pain? 16:52 <+kirsk> chaining statements is evil 16:52 <@benryves> How's that, kirsk? 16:52 <@benryves> Makes code terser and clearer. 16:52 < Ox40Work> kirsk: why \?! 16:52 < Ox40Work> its just stupid 16:53 <+kirsk> i severely disagree 16:53 < Ox40Work> Foo::Bar 16:53 < Ox40Work> it creates white space-like stuff, so I can see FOO, BAR 16:53 <@benryves> I'm fed up with having to dump things into temporary variables. 16:53 < Ox40Work> Foo\Bar is like "FOOBAR!" 16:53 < Ox40Work> benryves: true 16:53 <+kirsk> bla()->bla() is on the line but anything more is definately wrong 16:53 <@benryves> What about bla()[index]? 16:54 <+kirsk> same line 16:54 <+kirsk> well slightly before it 16:54 -!- JoelS [~JSeligste@outbound285a.pasd.tfbnw.net] has joined #tcpa 16:54 < Ox40Work> JOEL! 16:54 <+kirsk> nah thats mostly ok 16:54 < Ox40Work> a perfect authourity! 16:54 <@benryves> Mostly for queries (say) that only return a single column, it would be nice to just do $id = fetch_row()['id']; or similar. 16:55 <+kirsk> you can write really clean code that rarely needs any comments at all if you prevent thigns like chaining functions and long functions though 16:55 < Ox40Work> "{$text}" OR "".$text.""; ??? 16:56 <@benryves> Ox40Work: You forgot ''.$text.''; :) 16:57 < Ox40Work> gahhhh 16:57 < Ox40Work> lame 16:57 -!- rivereye [~Rivereye@c-24-11-113-194.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:57 <+kirsk> what about $urlTpl->set("href",$href,"text",$text" ); 16:58 < Ox40Work> oh god 16:58 <@benryves> kirsk: Enterprisey! 16:58 <+kirsk> woo 16:58 < Ox40Work> $foo->newBlock('menu_link'); $foo->href = $href; $foo->text = $text; 16:58 < Ox40Work> Thats how MINE would work. 16:58 < Ox40Work> thats not bad.... 16:58 <+kirsk> yeah i kinda like it 16:58 < Ox40Work> simple, elegant, and lets you template it EASILY... 16:58 <+kirsk> i think powertemplate can be easily hacked to allow that 16:58 <@benryves> A little verbose. Needs object initialisers. 16:59 <+kirsk> in php? 16:59 < Ox40Work> kirsk: I already did 16:59 <@benryves> kirsk: They would be nice. :P 16:59 < Ox40Work> its BuKuView 16:59 <+kirsk> ah then im thinking correctly 16:59 < Ox40Work> magic functions... 16:59 <+kirsk> yeah 16:59 <+kirsk> benryves: yeah, just kidding :P 16:59 < Ox40Work> function __set($var, $val){ $this->tpl->assign($var, $val); } 16:59 <+kirsk> jup 16:59 < Ox40Work> :) 17:00 < Ox40Work> Object initialisers? 17:00 < Ox40Work> maybe... I can make BuKuView able to loop stuff... 17:00 < Ox40Work> $view->loop($users, 'user_block'); ??? 17:00 < Ox40Work> Bad idea? good idea? 17:00 <@benryves> Ox40Work: new SomeObject() { SomeProperty = "Hello", AnotherProperty = 132 }; 17:01 < Ox40Work> benryves: ... thats what it does... 17:01 <+kirsk> $href = new hrefTextObject( $hrefTextSourceStream ); $text = new TextObject( $textSource ); $foo = new TemplateBlock( $alreadyinitiatedTemplateBlockNameStream ); 17:01 < Ox40Work> $view = new BuKuView([name of template]); 17:01 <@benryves> Ox40Work: Hm? 17:01 <+kirsk> now thats enterprisey 17:01 < Ox40Work> kirsk: lmao how C# of you :P 17:02 < Ox40Work> benryves: i do initialize it... with the __construct()... 17:02 < Ox40Work> $foo = new BuKuView(); would fail.... 17:02 < Ox40Work> because you didnt specify the template to use 17:02 <@benryves> Ox40Work: It's a C# feature. 17:02 <@benryves> I don't even know if PHP has properties, for that matter... 17:02 <+kirsk> what is? 17:02 < Ox40Work> its the same as new SomeObject("Hello", 123); 17:03 <@benryves> Ox40Work: No, it's completely different. 17:03 < Ox40Work> oh 17:03 < Ox40Work> lol 17:03 < Ox40Work> either way, it doesnt matter 17:03 < Ox40Work> :) 17:03 < Ox40Work> kirsk: so... should I make BuKuView able to loop stuff? 17:03 <+kirsk> of course 17:03 < Ox40Work> :) 17:03 <@benryves> Ox40Work: SomeObject("Hello", 123) requires that you have a constructor that matches those arguments; object initialisers work with any properties. 17:03 <+kirsk> youll need it for everything that has rows in a database table 17:03 < Ox40Work> $view->loop($users, 'user_block'); 17:04 -!- leofox [leofox@leofox.student.utwente.nl] has quit [] 17:04 < Ox40Work> kirsk: well, I could just foreach() thru it in the controller... but I like it in the view... 17:04 <+kirsk> i think that would work in php too benryves 17:04 < Ox40Work> in the VIEW class, not the template file. 17:04 <@benryves> kirsk: If they added the feature, sure. :) 17:04 <@benryves> It's just syntactic sugar. 17:04 -!- Tari_ [~Tari@mke-66-97-120-39.milwpc.com] has joined #tcpa 17:04 <@efneTI92> [Tari_] Remember, remember the 5th of November 17:04 <+kirsk> well if you have a constructor with no arguments it would work i think? 17:04 -!- Tari [~Tari@mke-66-97-120-39.milwpc.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:04 <@benryves> kirsk: How would it know where to stick each parameter? 17:05 <+kirsk> why would it have to know that? 17:05 <+kirsk> oh its a , instead of a ; 17:05 <+kirsk> well change that and it should work, though more due to lack of syntax/current gen functionality 17:06 <@benryves> Does PHP have usable lamda expressions/delegates yet? 17:06 < Ox40Work> http://rafb.net/p/iXv1i381.html 17:06 < Ox40Work> O.o yeah? nay? 17:06 <@benryves> create_function seems to using string-based hacks. 17:06 <+kirsk> Ox40Work: to be honest i think that should take an existing/opened block, not create a new one 17:07 < Ox40Work> kirsk: but..... 17:07 < Ox40Work> the block has to be repeated... for every one 17:07 < Ox40Work> right? 17:07 <+kirsk> so: $block = $tpl->newBlock(blaat); $tpl->loopFill( $array, $block ); 17:07 < Ox40Work> {username} - {firstName} 17:07 <+kirsk> erm 17:07 <+kirsk> oh yeah youre right 17:07 < Ox40Work> kirsk: :P 17:07 < Ox40Work> yeah, that wouldnt work 17:08 <+kirsk> well it would but it would just produce one line and rewrite it throughout the loop 17:08 < Ox40Work> :P 17:08 < Ox40Work> So, mine is a good idea? 17:08 <+kirsk> could make it use an existing block for the first line though, as an additional option 17:09 < Ox40Work> ok, when im done with the view 17:09 < Ox40Work> should I add it to the ViewManager... 17:09 < Ox40Work> which then prints them out in order? 17:09 < Ox40Work> BuKuViewManager::AddView($view); 17:09 <+kirsk> surely views are managed by the viewmanager 17:09 < Ox40Work> :) 17:09 < Ox40Work> right? 17:09 < Ox40Work> then I could include the header, then this stuff, then the footer... 17:09 <+kirsk> well, it tells them to print themselves as needed 17:10 < Ox40Work> and, if there is no redirect, I can print them all out? 17:10 <+kirsk> or asks for the resulting render data 17:10 < Ox40Work> kirsk: yeah, but better than $view->printToScreen() in the controller, right? 17:10 <+kirsk> uhm yeah sure if you have nice management going on in that manager 17:11 <@benryves> Ox40Work: Don't you feel this is a little over-engineered? 17:11 <+kirsk> like ordering, priorities, compounds, etc 17:12 < Ox40Work> benryves: nope 17:12 < Ox40Work> :) 17:12 < Ox40Work> kirsk: i was just thinking about adding them in order... buuuut 17:12 <+kirsk> ManagerManager would be over-engineered 17:12 < Ox40Work> lmao 17:12 <@benryves> Ox40Work: Eh, fair enough. 17:12 <+kirsk> actually 17:12 < Ox40Work> BuKuManagerManager extends BuKuManager 17:12 <+kirsk> ManagerManagerFactory 17:12 < Ox40Work> lol 17:13 <+kirsk> Factories are awesome 17:13 <+kirsk> actually i woudl adjust my previous statement about that using a manager is nice if you have a factory as well 17:13 <+kirsk> so you can generate views on the fly 17:13 < Ox40Work> what does a factory do? 17:14 < Ox40Work> generating views on the fly? 17:14 < Ox40Work> ...... 17:14 < Ox40Work> huh? 17:14 <@benryves> Frankly your code sounds terrifying, but whatever. :P 17:14 <+kirsk> FactoryManagerFactory would be terrifying 17:15 <@benryves> Ox40Work: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factory_method_pattern ? 17:15 <+kirsk> a Factory (compound) interface handles putting together classes to form an instance of parts of different classes 17:15 <+kirsk> like creating a menu i na restaurant order 17:16 <+kirsk> a pizza contains various topping classes and can have different doughs etc 17:16 <+kirsk> but the factory is what knows how to get those subclasses to combine into a pizza when all you ask is "i want a blaatpizza" 17:17 <@benryves> You can avoid explicitly creating factory classes if you have half-decent reflection going on. 17:17 <+kirsk> reflection? 17:18 -!- Barrett [~berto_cha@75-165-225-65.slkc.qwest.net] has joined #tcpa 17:18 <@benryves> kirsk: Inspecting, modifying, and creating types at runtime. 17:18 <@benryves> (In a nutshell!) ;) 17:19 <+kirsk> ok well from what im reading it seems to do the same thing yeah 17:19 <+kirsk> though perhaps on a higher level 17:19 <+kirsk> meaning more engineering 17:19 <@benryves> Reflection is a useful tool and rather nicely implemented in .NET 17:20 < Ox40Work> benryves: why does it sound terrifying? 17:21 <@benryves> Ox40Work: Overengineered, but maybe that's just me. 17:21 <+kirsk> i suppose factories are more something generated from models/engineering and reflection is more something handwritten 17:21 < Ox40Work> benryves: well, its a framework... 17:21 < Ox40Work> So, its gonna be a little complex... 17:21 < Ox40Work> But, Views makes sense, right? 17:21 <@benryves> Ox40Work: Doesn't have to be. 17:21 < Ox40Work> ViewManager is debatable... 17:21 <+kirsk> frameworks are good things to engineer a lot 17:21 -!- Goplat [~goplat@76-191-156-24.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has quit [Time left until the Apocalypse: 28yrs 51wks 3days 9hrs 52mins 19secs] 17:21 < Ox40Work> but its nice to be able to BuKuViewManager::Addview($view); 17:22 <+kirsk> viewmanager is mostly for when youre doing complex compound views 17:22 < Ox40Work> and at the end BuKuViewManager::Output(); 17:22 < Ox40Work> yeah, 17:22 < Ox40Work> like header, menu, user list, user info pane, footer ? 17:22 <+kirsk> stuff like that 17:22 < Ox40Work> :) 17:22 <+kirsk> layout + panels with each panel being a view 17:22 < Ox40Work> jup 17:22 < Ox40Work> So, my view manager could be pretty simple 17:23 <+kirsk> basically like making an actuall application : o 17:23 < Ox40Work> just storing an array of views... 17:23 < Ox40Work> :O 17:23 < Ox40Work> and, on Output() looping thru the views and calling $v->Output(); 17:23 <+kirsk> you can use it to inherit logging security and simple compound stuff form a base manager class too 17:23 < Ox40Work> ?? 17:23 < Ox40Work> go on :) 17:24 <+kirsk> well you make some functions that let the framework deal with collections of essential framework instances, like views or models 17:24 <+kirsk> but generalised so it doesnt matter what type of instances they handle 17:24 < Ox40Work> mmhmm 17:25 <+kirsk> put it in a manager class, extend into typemanagers and add on typespecific compound handling in each of those 17:25 < Ox40Work> (by the way, "Bucu or Buku is a hill island surrounded by the Trave and Wakenitz Rivers in Lübeck, Germany.". My framework is like a hill above all others!) 17:25 <@benryves> Fair enough. >_> 17:25 < Ox40Work> :) 17:25 -!- i_c-Y [Icy@cpe-69-204-242-163.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa 17:25 <@benryves> What are you going to use it for? 17:25 < Ox40Work> I think this will be cool tho 17:26 < Ox40Work> benryves: first thing first, a family website 17:26 < Ox40Work> to keep news articles... 17:26 < Ox40Work> let people post stuff like pics 17:26 < Ox40Work> and keep contact information in the event of an emergency... 17:26 < Ox40Work> allow mass mailings (HEY, g'pa died!) etc... 17:26 < Ox40Work> Its gonna have an "Im a Klika!" button. :) 17:27 < Ox40Work> that someone can "Klik-a on" (if you will :O) and request their information be added to the db 17:28 < Ox40Work> Next is ICS (Inventory Control System) Version 2.0..... 17:28 < Ox40Work> And after that, My home automation system 17:28 < Ox40Work> So, its gotta be robust and generic.... but useful 17:28 < Ox40Work> 17:29 <@benryves> I'd dispute the "gotta". 17:29 < Ox40Work> Well, you knwo what I mean. 17:29 < Ox40Work> Im doing alot of different things... 17:29 < Ox40Work> And I want to use the same framework. 17:29 <@benryves> Fair enough. 17:29 < Ox40Work> my goal : NO echo statements within controllers at all. :) 17:30 <@benryves> I rely more on a solid class library 17:32 < i_c-Y> have you ever considered just giving up computers in total, Ox40Work ? 17:34 < Ox40Work> i_c-Y: why 17:36 <@Andy_J> why not 17:37 <+kirsk> QUESTION EVERYTHING 17:37 <@benryves> kirsk: Why? 17:37 <+kirsk> because rebelling 17:38 < Ox40Work> :) 17:38 < Ox40Work> i_c-Y: no, I have not. 17:38 < Ox40Work> Now tha tI am finally on the right track of doing something RIGHT, im not gonna lose it 17:39 <+kirsk> you are? 17:39 <@benryves> I'd question your assertion that PHP web dev is "right" in any way. ;) 17:43 < Ox40Work> :P 17:43 < Ox40Work> kirsk: CWPHMChick just texted me :P 17:43 <+kirsk> yay 17:45 < Ox40Work> :D 17:45 < Ox40Work> all she said is "Whats up?" 17:45 < Ox40Work> lol 17:45 <+kirsk> &&? 17:47 < i_c-Y> you guys should start assigning md5 hashes to your desired ladies. then maybe those who assign stupid nicknames to girls will realize how dumb their chats are. 17:47 <+kirsk> but thats us 17:49 -!- benryves [~benryves@host81-157-218-48.range81-157.btcentralplus.com] has left #tcpa [] 17:49 -!- Merth [~merthsoft@v200.calcg.org] has joined #tcpa 17:49 < Merth> hi guys 17:49 <+kirsk> lo 17:51 < Merth> !k Ox40 test 17:51 -!- Ox40 was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [Merthsoft: test] 17:51 < Merth> hrm 17:51 < Merth> i'm idented but efneTI86 is ignoring me... 17:52 <+kirsk> http://zip.4chan.org/an/src/1233334955685.jpg 17:52 <+kirsk> haha (sfw) 17:53 < i_c-Y> i dont see the humour 17:53 <+kirsk> its a cap 17:53 <+kirsk> no its a cat! 17:55 < Ox40Work> lmao 17:55 < Ox40Work> thats funny 17:55 < Ox40Work> just the two little ears... 17:55 < Ox40Work> thanks Merth.... 17:56 < Ox40Work> O.o 17:56 < Merth> i'm with i_c-Y here 17:56 < Merth> Ox40Work: You're the test kick now 17:56 < Merth> at least that's what i was told 17:57 <@Andy_J> I agree that that picture is not humorous 17:58 <+kirsk> life has some simple pleasures 17:58 -!- rivereye [~Rivereye@198.110.88.149] has joined #tcpa 17:59 < Merth> such as kicking people outta #tcpa 17:59 < Merth> !k Andy_J 17:59 -!- Merth was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [Yeah, like that was ever going to happen :P] 17:59 -!- Merth [~merthsoft@v200.calcg.org] has joined #tcpa 17:59 < Merth> :P 17:59 <+kirsk> Ox40Work what did you reply? 17:59 < Merth> !t Welcome to #tcpa - http://tcpa.calcg.org/ - "Just deal with it." - Donate to Ox40's "I'm freaking broke" fund today! Current donations: -$750.00 17:59 -!- efneTI86 changed the topic of #tcpa to: Welcome to #tcpa - http://tcpa.calcg.org/ - "Just deal with it." - Donate to Ox40's "I'm freaking broke" fund today! Current donations: -$750.00 18:00 < Merth> gid dammit 18:00 < Merth> !k Ox40Work stealing my donation fund 18:00 -!- Ox40Work was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [Merthsoft: stealing my donation fund] 18:00 < i_c-Y> !k Ox40Work stupid solicitation not allowed in topic. 18:00 -!- Ox40Work [~KevinK@68-117-29-62.static.fdul.wi.charter.com] has joined #tcpa 18:00 < Ox40Work> HEY 18:00 < Ox40Work> I need it more 18:00 < Merth> doubt that 18:00 < Ox40Work> my donations are negative! 18:00 < Ox40Work> Merth :do you live on your own? 18:00 < i_c-Y> !t Welcome to the #tcpa - http://tcpa.calcg.org/ 18:00 -!- efneTI86 changed the topic of #tcpa to: Welcome to the #tcpa - http://tcpa.calcg.org/ 18:00 < Ox40Work> i_c-Y: good point :P 18:00 < Merth> i bet i have more debt than you 18:00 -!- leofox [leofox@leofox.student.utwente.nl] has joined #tcpa 18:00 <@efneTI92> [leofox] All we do in hell is play DDR! 18:01 < Ox40Work> I specified my 'im broke' fund. 18:01 < Ox40Work> you said your car fund... 18:01 < Ox40Work> so, my 'fund' is more negative than yours :P 18:01 <+kirsk> how debt do you have Merth 18:01 < Ox40Work> TAKE THAT! :P 18:01 < Ox40Work> ohmygod... 18:02 < Ox40Work> Reply "Meh school sucks. I have 2 help teach photoshop! :)" 18:02 <+kirsk> heh cool 18:02 * Ox40Work air-huggles CWPHMChick 18:02 <+kirsk> long-distance huggle 18:02 < Merth> ohmygod no one cares 18:03 < Ox40Work> :) 18:03 < Ox40Work> But seriously, a chick who knows how to shoop :D 18:03 <+kirsk> and teach 18:03 <+kirsk> and help 18:03 < Ox40Work> mmhm 18:03 <+kirsk> and huggle? 18:03 < Ox40Work> Plus, a good huggler to boot. 18:03 < Merth> ok you hornly little fucks, take it to pm 18:03 < Ox40Work> :) 18:03 < Ox40Work> lol Merth. 18:04 < leofox> i want a girl to huggle.. 18:04 < Ox40Work> leofox: GET AWAY FROM MINE! 18:04 < leofox> theres just dudes here 18:04 * Ox40Work pulls out a dagger 18:04 < leofox> stupid Computer Science dept 18:04 < Ox40Work> leofox: well, its not gay - its PRISON gay. 18:04 < Ox40Work> So, go for it :P 18:04 < Merth> we have chicks in out CS department 18:04 < Ox40Work> yay! 18:04 < leofox> prison gay is still gay 18:04 -!- _Digital [~DC@pool-71-165-124-42.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has joined #tcpa 18:04 < Merth> my g/f an english education major, though 18:04 < Ox40Work> nerd chicks - socially inept due to your constant fawning. Whats your excuse? 18:05 <+kirsk> fawning? 18:05 < Ox40Work> Merth: my sister is an EE Major 18:05 < leofox> isnt a fawn like a bird? 18:05 < Merth> _Digital! 18:05 < Merth> Save me! 18:05 < Ox40Work> kirsk: google "xkcd nerd chick" 18:05 < Ox40Work> leofox: fawn == baby deer 18:05 < leofox> i dont like nerd girls all that much 18:05 < Ox40Work> oh come onnnnnn 18:05 < Merth> agreed 18:05 < Ox40Work> with the cute lil glasses :P 18:05 < leofox> ok i do like glasses on a girl :P 18:05 < Merth> christ, i'm leaving before i get drawn in 18:05 < leofox> but you know 18:05 < Ox40Work> haha 18:05 <+kirsk> would nerd guys have the same excuse? 18:06 < Ox40Work> kirsk: noep 18:06 < Ox40Work> leofox: i dont know _______________ 18:06 < leofox> nerd girls are like ugly uninteresting girls that think they are awesome because the nerds are constantly 'fawning' 18:06 <+kirsk> cute/pretty nerdy looking girls are just whores with glasses 18:06 < Ox40Work> lol, in the prestashop forums, i am a "senior member" 18:07 < Ox40Work> up until a week ago, I had 7 stars.... now I have 3 (they must have redone their star-system)... 18:07 <+kirsk> oh yeah, im finishing college asap and now suddenly there are girls in my colelge course 18:07 < i_c-Y> Ox40Work: any halfwit can go to college. 18:07 <+kirsk> lame 18:07 < Ox40Work> so I posted a thread: "Hey, I have a question for the PS team – this is really random. A week ago, I had 7 ‘stars’ under my name! Now I have 3! WHO TOOK MY STARS?! :P —Kevin" 18:08 < Ox40Work> i_c-Y: what... about it? 18:08 < leofox> we have one cute interesting social good looking girl in cs 18:08 <+kirsk> yay 18:08 < leofox> of course everyone is around her like all the time 18:08 < leofox> when you want to talk to her you need one of those jungle knifes to get past the hordes of nerds 18:08 <+kirsk> lame 18:09 <+kirsk> hmm i actually find girls less attractive if a lot of people show itnerest in her 18:09 < leofox> yeah 18:09 < leofox> i have that with music and stuff 18:09 < leofox> if all the idiots like it too, it cant be good 18:10 <+kirsk> yeah something like that 18:10 <+kirsk> but also because its too easy for them 18:10 < sir_lewk> it's the "indy complex" 18:10 <+kirsk> they can then pick just anyone from the mass of horny lamers 18:10 <+kirsk> so if they pick you all you are to them is one of the horny lamers who stood out a little 18:11 < i_c-Y> aka you have no chance, kirsk 18:11 <+kirsk> not omgomgomgilikehimandonlyhimwooyay 18:11 < i_c-Y> this is stupid. 18:11 <+kirsk> no chance of something meaningfull no 18:11 <+kirsk> sex is easy 18:11 < i_c-Y> you're worthless. 18:11 <+kirsk> finding an actually cool girl is hard 18:11 * sir_lewk melts i_c-Y 18:11 < i_c-Y> >:( 18:12 <+kirsk> >:C 18:12 < sir_lewk> haha! I discovered your one weakness! 18:12 <+kirsk> being made of delicious melty chocolate? 18:12 < leofox> bullets.. my one weakness 18:12 < leofox> how did you know? 18:15 <+kirsk> of course, there are exceptions where a really cool attractive girl is worshipped en masse and you just cant deny that she's awesome 18:17 < Ox40Work> :P 18:18 < Ox40Work> jup true true 18:18 < Ox40Work> girls who have a ton of guy friends scare the SHIT outta me 18:18 < Ox40Work> emotionally... 18:18 < Ox40Work> I couldnt do a relationship with someone like that... 18:18 < Ox40Work> I'm kinda scarred in the 'trust' department 18:19 < smart_> My girlfriend had nearly all guy friends 18:19 <+kirsk> i dont mind 18:20 <+kirsk> its just a turn off if every retarded douchebag in the cafe makes remark about some chick 18:23 < leofox> but it also sucks when you think a girl is cute and everyone is like OMGUGLY 18:23 <+kirsk> nah i dont mind that 18:23 <@Andy_J> hi smart_ 18:24 <+kirsk> if she's really really cute to me 18:24 <+kirsk> example: http://94.100.113.179/321450001-321500000/321498201-321498300/321498205_6_QgH8.jpeg 18:24 <+kirsk> i think thats really cute 18:24 <+kirsk> though everyone just says "halp wtf ugly!" 18:24 < i_c-Y> ugly 18:24 <+kirsk> see 18:26 < Ox40Work> lol 18:26 < Ox40Work> cute enough :) 18:26 < leofox> oeh that is cute 18:26 < Ox40Work> there is a point where its liek 'not attractive to me' and 'ugly' are different... 18:26 < leofox> is that her real eye color? 18:26 < Ox40Work> 'ugly' everyone agrees on... 18:26 < Ox40Work> 'attractive to me' is subjective 18:27 < Ox40Work> and yeah, really nice eyes, cute glasses :P 18:27 <+kirsk> leofox: i would think so 18:27 < leofox> looks like a hyves link 18:27 < leofox> r/ her hyves page :P 18:27 < leofox> or am i wrong? 18:27 <+kirsk> http://94.100.113.179/321450001-321500000/321498201-321498300/321498201_6_e9Yf.jpeg 18:28 <+kirsk> yes, hyves 18:28 <+kirsk> http://whenanangelsmiles.hyves.nl/album/30194533/Praag_2008_met_helen/SJ2lJ19q/photos/321498202/0/F-Tk/ 18:28 <+kirsk> i call dibs as soon as she turns 18 though 18:28 <+kirsk> :PO 18:28 < Ox40Work> kirsk: the 2nd to last one you posted: HOTT 18:28 <+kirsk> yes 18:28 <+kirsk> last oen too 18:28 <+kirsk> one, oen is dutch 18:28 < Ox40Work> :P 18:29 < Ox40Work> I like the hair in the 2nd to last one 18:29 <+kirsk> its all the same 18:29 < Ox40Work> And, I am in love with her friend. 18:29 < Ox40Work> :) 18:29 <+jd19> kirsk you are obsessed dude :D 18:29 < leofox> hehe 18:29 < leofox> heh 18:29 < leofox> she is from zaandam! 18:29 <+kirsk> just different picture quality - lighting focus etc 18:29 <+kirsk> yesss 18:29 < Ox40Work> I rate your pictures in the order of hotness: #3, #2, #1 18:29 < leofox> she knows someone i used to go to school with 18:29 < Ox40Work> I am in love with her 18:30 < Ox40Work> I call dibs when she turns I DON TCARE 18:30 <+kirsk> too late 18:30 < leofox> 17 is old enough 18:30 <+kirsk> for 21? 18:30 <+kirsk> its just across the line for me 18:30 <+kirsk> 18 i might consider 18:30 <+kirsk> 17 is just no way 18:30 <+kirsk> unless she jumps me or something 18:31 < leofox> im 19 18:31 <+kirsk> yes 18:31 < leofox> so that makes it easier 18:31 <+kirsk> yes 18:31 < leofox> or less creepy 18:31 <+jd19> i'm 23 and my gf is 20 18:31 <+jd19> robbin the cradle 18:31 < leofox> i'm 19 and my gf is 18:31 < leofox> OH I DONT HAVE A GF THATS RIGHT 18:32 <+jd19> you don't need one either heh 18:32 <+kirsk> oh snap 18:32 <+kirsk> well ive heard of quite a few 17 year old girls going with 21-23 year old guys <_< 18:32 <+kirsk> or 19 y/o with 24-28 18:32 <+kirsk> crazy stuff 18:33 < leofox> ive seen 40+ with 19 or so 18:33 < smart_> Hey Andy_J 18:33 < leofox> do i win? 18:34 <+kirsk> yes you do 18:34 < smart_> Unless you _are_ the 40+, then no. 18:34 <+jd19> well we have a kid too so i'm practically married 18:34 < leofox> we have a saying in holland 18:34 <+kirsk> 19-20 is too young for kids imo 18:34 < leofox> alles kan kapot 18:34 <+kirsk> 29-30 is better :P 18:34 < smart_> NEVER is better. 18:34 < smart_> :-) 18:34 < leofox> jd19 son or daughter? 18:34 <+jd19> son 18:34 < leofox> ok nvm then 18:35 <+jd19> i was planning on waiting a bit but then shit happens and next thing you know, a baby pops out 18:35 < Ox40Work> Im 18, I would go down as low as 16.5 18:35 <+kirsk> winner sperm 18:35 < Ox40Work> and up as high as 17 18:36 < Ox40Work> lol 18:36 <+jd19> yeah at least i know i'm not shooting blanks 18:37 <+jd19> someone is making something toasted in the break room and it smells delicious 18:37 < Ox40Work> mmm ima make pb&j in ... -7 minutes SHIT! 18:37 <+kirsk> does that mean actually putting pb and jelly together one one sandwich? 18:38 <+kirsk> or making like 2 pb sandwiches and 2 jelly sandwiches? 18:38 <+jd19> yes, on one sandwich 18:38 < leofox> eww 18:38 <+jd19> quite a great thing 18:38 <+kirsk> ugh 18:38 < leofox> what a waste of jelly 18:38 <+jd19> have you ever tried one? 18:38 <+kirsk> well jelly is lame anyway 18:38 < leofox> jelly is ok 18:38 <+kirsk> jam is greatly superior 18:38 < leofox> i just hate pb 18:41 <+kirsk> pb is awesome 18:42 <+kirsk> proteins good fattys delisiousness it has it all 18:45 <+kirsk> "As I spoke, she had the same sad look on her face that my 4th grade teacher had when I tried to explain why I'd stuffed M &M's in my shorts during recess and asked some of the girls if they wanted to go on kind of an Easter egg hunt." 18:48 <+kirsk> and to make amends: http://www.t-nation.com/img/photos/2009/09-atomicdog-004/image006.jpg 19:05 < leofox> fapfapfap 19:07 -!- pyromania [~pyromania@c-98-228-126-113.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:10 < Ox40Work> lmao kirsk 19:10 < Ox40Work> jelly ftw 19:11 < Ox40Work> kirsk: you have never heard of pb&j? 19:11 < Ox40Work> weirdo 19:11 < Ox40Work> :P 19:15 -!- Desensiti [~Desensitz@ip98-169-72-48.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #tcpa 19:24 -!- pyromania [~pyromania@c-98-228-126-113.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 19:24 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v pyromania] by etaonrish 19:39 < sir_lewk> pb&j is apparently a pretty american/canadian thing 19:40 < sir_lewk> not really european at all 19:40 < sir_lewk> we've discussed this before in here iirc 19:41 -!- rivereye [~Rivereye@198.110.88.149] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:42 < Ox40Work> hmm, I dont remember that... 19:43 <+kirsk> Ox40Work: jup and sir_lewk: jup and jup 19:43 <+kirsk> bye now -> stoner rock bands @ alt hangout with the hippie friends 19:43 -!- kirsk [~krisk@j239072.upc-j.chello.nl] has quit [User excited] 19:44 < Ox40Work> hmm 19:44 < Ox40Work> O.o 20:04 -!- ix [kvamtroe@cassarossa.samfundet.no] has quit [Lost terminal] 20:04 -!- ix [kvamtroe@cassarossa.samfundet.no] has joined #tcpa 20:04 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v ix] by etaonrish, efneTI80 20:06 < Ox40Work> GAH 20:06 < Ox40Work> it is so boring on IRC right now 20:07 < Ox40Work> *** Cannot join #css (+b - you are banned) 20:07 < Ox40Work> *** Cannot join #php (+b - you are banned) 20:07 < Ox40Work> :( 20:09 < i_c-Y> !k Ox40Work *** Cannot join #tcpa (+b - you are banned) 20:09 < i_c-Y> :) 20:18 < leofox> banhammer 20:19 <+ix> ham banner 20:20 < leofox> nigger nigger 20:21 < sir_lewk> mmhm 20:21 < sir_lewk> so have you dudes ever heard of UPX? 20:21 < i_c-Y> !k leofox language 20:21 -!- leofox was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [i_c-Y: language] 20:21 -!- leofox [leofox@leofox.student.utwente.nl] has joined #tcpa 20:21 < sir_lewk> it is pretty much the bee's knees 20:21 < i_c-Y> !k leofox autorejoin 20:21 -!- leofox was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [i_c-Y: autorejoin] 20:21 -!- leofox [leofox@leofox.student.utwente.nl] has joined #tcpa 20:21 < leofox> stop that 20:22 < leofox> that was uncalled for 20:22 < sir_lewk> kicking for autorejoin is the most pointless thing ever >_> 20:22 < i_c-Y> its entertaining. 20:22 -!- pyromania [~pyromania@c-98-228-126-113.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:23 < Ox40Work> :P 20:33 < leofox> it's recursive 20:33 < leofox> its not like i have autorejoin suddely off after kicking me 20:36 < sir_lewk> and not like kicking really hurts you, you do autorejoin after all... ;) 20:36 < sir_lewk> so yeah, pointless 20:37 -!- prime [~prime@b05s10mr.corenetworks.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 20:38 -!- prime_ [~prime@b05s10mr.corenetworks.net] has joined #tcpa 20:38 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v prime_] by etaonrish 20:43 < leofox> I need autorejoin for stupid channels like #tcpa where people kick me for saying nigger 20:44 <@Andy_J> no, you don't need autorejoin 20:44 <+prime_> people who have to kick twice, once for autorejoin, are compensating for lack of...something 20:44 <@Andy_J> really, !k should set a 10-second ban, too. 20:45 <+prime_> that is stupid 20:45 <@Andy_J> It's the only way for a kick to mean something these days. 20:45 <@Andy_J> ideally, the server wouldn't let you rejoin within 10 seconds of being kicked. 20:45 <@chronomex> !k leofox n------ word not welcome here 20:45 -!- leofox was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [chronomex: n------ word not welcome here] 20:45 -!- leofox [leofox@leofox.student.utwente.nl] has joined #tcpa 20:45 < Ox40Work> Anyone know how to make tables in Open Office move-able 20:45 <@chronomex> Andy_J: or a short ban, but that would cause even more noise 20:45 < Ox40Work> chronomex: what word is that? 20:45 < leofox> then you would just set your client to 'wait-for-10-seconds' rejoin 20:45 <+prime_> as if seeing "nigger" wasnt disruptive enough, i then i have to see a kick line (usually also containing the word "nigger") then the kick, then the ban, then the unban, then the rejoin 20:46 <@chronomex> yup! 20:46 <@Andy_J> baw more 20:46 < Ox40Work> GUYS 20:46 <@chronomex> and then possibly a ten-minute discussion 20:46 <@Andy_J> of course 20:46 <@chronomex> it's the only proper way 20:46 <@Andy_J> indubitably 20:46 <@chronomex> damn this keyboard is so sticky 20:46 <@Andy_J> We did not need to know that. 20:46 <+prime_> i dont even have to say anything 20:47 < leofox> he just said nigger twice! why isnt he kicked? 20:47 < Ox40Work> HOW can I move a table in OO 20:47 < sir_lewk> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1110143&cid=26670459 hahaha 20:47 <@chronomex> leofox: you said it twice now too 20:48 < leofox> four times now i think 20:48 < leofox> i dont get the point of banning words like that 20:57 < sir_lewk> if you strike them down, they will become more powerful than you ever imagined 20:58 < sir_lewk> adopting a word into common use is the only surefire way to insure that people won't find it offensive in the future 20:58 -!- Tyler2 [~nexon@residence-204-172.henday.ualberta.ca] has joined #tcpa 20:58 <@efneTI92> [Tyler2] I no longer speak fluent dialup. 20:58 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Tyler2] by efneTI80, Remius 20:58 < sir_lewk> or am I going to get banned for saying "bloody"? 21:00 < Ox40Work> OPEN OFFICE! 21:00 < Ox40Work> <.< 21:01 < sir_lewk> what? 21:01 < sir_lewk> oh, I don't know 21:01 < sir_lewk> try dragging it? 21:01 < sir_lewk> word processors are for noobs 21:02 < leofox> hey tomorrow we might have a king! 21:02 < Ox40Work> It doesnt work :( 21:02 -!- pyromania [~pyromania@c-98-228-126-113.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 21:02 < Ox40Work> cant be dragged 21:02 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v pyromania] by efneTI81, efneTI92 21:02 < Ox40Work> I want like an equivalent to word's "In Front Of Text" 21:02 < leofox> haha openoffice? 21:02 < sir_lewk> change the ancor type or something, it's been a while 21:02 < sir_lewk> you can ancor it to paragraphs, pages, whatever iirc 21:03 < Ox40Work> :S 21:03 < Ox40Work> OO sucks balls 21:03 < Ox40Work> Format->Anchor->ToPage isn't selectible 21:03 < Ox40Work> able 21:04 < leofox> just get word 21:04 < leofox> get a piratebay license if you're too poor 21:04 < Ox40Work> My company is too poor 21:04 < Ox40Work> Im at work, otherwise I would pirate it. 21:04 < Ox40Work> Darn it tho... 21:05 < sir_lewk> I honestly haven't had OOo *or* MS Office installed in nearly 2 years 21:06 < Ox40Work> :\ 21:06 < sir_lewk> well, actually no 21:06 < sir_lewk> my work provided machine has OOo on it 21:09 < sir_lewk> what version of OOo do you have? 21:10 < Ox40Work> 2.1 21:10 < Ox40Work> D: 21:10 < sir_lewk> I can't figure out how to do this in 2.3, supposidly 3.0 is much better 21:12 -!- pyromania [~pyromania@c-98-228-126-113.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 21:12 < sir_lewk> no, it really isn't 21:12 < Ox40Work> :X 21:12 -!- ticalcnoa [~chatzilla@ip70-189-96-58.ok.ok.cox.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.5/2008120122]] 21:12 < sir_lewk> screw this program 21:12 < Ox40Work> im downloading it right now 21:12 < Ox40Work> no kidding 21:12 < Ox40Work> OO sucks total ass 21:13 <@chronomex> like OS/2 but worse 21:13 < sir_lewk> I can't say I've ever felt different about office though 21:13 < sir_lewk> 99% of your time with all these office "productivity" programs you spend fighting the computer 21:14 < sir_lewk> screw em all 21:14 < Ox40Work> I do like office 2007 however 21:14 < Ox40Work> its a good program 21:14 < sir_lewk> I refuse to learn how to use it 21:14 < sir_lewk> on the grounds that I shouldn't *have* to learn 21:15 < sir_lewk> thankfully office productivity apps are only a transitory stage that are slowly being phased out 21:15 < sir_lewk> they were the compromize between paper based offices, and fully computerized ones 21:16 -!- Merthsoft [~Shaun@140.141.26.108] has joined #tcpa 21:16 * Milyardo still writes every paper in Latex 21:16 < sir_lewk> I just do plaintext 21:16 < sir_lewk> I should really learn latex though 21:17 < sir_lewk> *that* is a useful skill, what's the point of spending time learning a piece of software that is going to be obsoleted by a completely different version in a handful of years though? 21:18 <@chronomex> you can put it on your resume? 21:18 < Milyardo> How do you Learn an Office Application anyways? 21:18 < sir_lewk> pah, I put office on my resume regardless 21:18 < Milyardo> What exactly are you learning? Just the GUI? 21:18 < sir_lewk> who does'nt? 21:19 < sir_lewk> Milyardo: yeah, the GUI 21:19 < sir_lewk> guis are complex as shit for me, I find them terrifyingly confusing and slow 21:19 < Merthsoft> i read that as "girls are comples shit for me..." 21:19 < sir_lewk> that's one of the reasons I like KDE so much, nice uniformity between apps 21:19 < sir_lewk> LOL 21:20 < Milyardo> sir_lewk: One more reason why every document should be written in a plaintext markup language, and office applications should just WYSIWYG editors 21:20 < Milyardo> ODF ftw 21:21 -!- Dam\__ [~winterven@216.117.120.200] has joined #tcpa 21:21 < sir_lewk> EXACTLY 21:21 < sir_lewk> I couldn't agree more 21:21 < i_c-Y> morons agreeing... not surprised. 21:21 < sir_lewk> 20 years from now you could plop me in front of Vim and I'd be completely unintimidated 21:21 < i_c-Y> hopefully, you'll be dead by then 21:22 < sir_lewk> can you say you'd feel the same if you traveled 20 years into the future to use GUI apps? 21:22 < sir_lewk> don't make me melt you again >.< 21:22 < Merthsoft> the same guis apps i do now? yes 21:22 < Merthsoft> !k Merth 21:22 -!- Merth was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [Merthsoft] 21:22 * Dam\__ is looking for a Linux media player that put visualizations on the desktop. 21:22 < sir_lewk> no, the gui apps of 20 years from now 21:22 < sir_lewk> Office 2k30 or whatever 21:22 < Merthsoft> vim isn't from 20 years from now, so it's not a fair argument 21:23 < i_c-Y> sir_lewk: id do fine probably 21:23 < sir_lewk> $20 says that nothing will significantly change 21:23 < sir_lewk> i_c-Y: well I would not >_> 21:23 < i_c-Y> after all, im not a moron 21:23 < sir_lewk> k 21:23 < Milyardo> Dam\__: Banshee? 21:23 < Merthsoft> speculation doesn't matter, you don't know at all 21:23 < Merthsoft> so you can't say 21:23 < Merthsoft> and can't make the comparison 21:23 < sir_lewk> no, but I'm willing to make certain assumptions 21:24 < Merthsoft> and i'm willing to call you a moron for it 21:24 < sir_lewk> fine 21:24 < sir_lewk> there is nothing wrong with speculation though 21:25 < sir_lewk> presuming computers in 20 years still have screens, keyboards, and terminal emulators, I'm willing to bet that Vim, or some Vi-like of the time, will be very similar to what it is now 21:25 < Merthsoft> you're speculating that vim won't change, and office will change enough to intimidate me 21:25 < sir_lewk> no, I'm saying office would intimidate *me* 21:25 < sir_lewk> hell, it already does 21:25 < Merthsoft> but, when it comes down to it, vim can't do what office can do 21:26 < sir_lewk> and I don't need to do what office does 21:26 < Merthsoft> you're never gonna have to make a powerpoint? 21:26 < sir_lewk> I don't see how the application of the applications is really relevant, I'm using the two as examples of two different types of applications 21:27 < sir_lewk> and sure, I've made powerpoints, though I prefer to avoid them when possible 21:28 < sir_lewk> I also think a bad presentor with a powerpoint is worse than a bad presentor without anything 21:28 < sir_lewk> that being said, a good presentor with powerpoint is far better than a good one without... 21:29 <+jd19> as long as you dont read from every slide 21:29 < mokomull> sir_lewk: The problem is that "good presenter with powerpoint" is an oxymoron 21:29 <+jd19> and put everything youre going to say on the slide 21:29 < mokomull> as jd19 points out :) 21:29 <+jd19> that just looks bad 21:30 < sir_lewk> eh, I've been to one or two good talks that had powerpoint ;) 21:30 <+jd19> last time i used a powerpoint was for my hour-long presentation in my senior capstone class 21:30 <+jd19> almost 2 years ago now... 21:31 < sir_lewk> ANYWAYS, my point of all this is that learning OOo is a waste of my type. it'd hardly be a useful skill 21:31 < mokomull> sir_lewk: What do you need OOo for? 21:31 < sir_lewk> I don't 21:31 < sir_lewk> so this arguement is kinda pointless 21:31 < mokomull> Oh, it sounded like you were bitching about a class or something. 21:32 < sir_lewk> I'm just semi-raging about it right now, I just installed it to see if I could figure something out about and remembered that I hate it 21:32 < sir_lewk> ignore me while I go ranting in circles... ^_^ 21:32 < mokomull> The only presentation I've had to do in the last semester or so, I did in LaTeX 21:33 < mokomull> it looked sexxay 21:33 < Desensiti> hey guys 21:33 < Desensiti> what should i use to view computer generated images on a ti-84+ 21:33 < sir_lewk> last presentation I did was my senoir year HS project on "the syntax of the C programming language" 21:33 < mokomull> http://www.mmlx.us/~mmullins/haskell.pdf 21:34 < sir_lewk> it was 100% winged bullshit but nobody knew the difference :) 21:34 < mokomull> hehe I wrote an English "culture" paper on "The Effect of Ubuntu Linux in Geek Culture" or something like that 21:34 <+jd19> i did my last one on network security 21:34 <+jd19> its hard to fit a whole lot into an hour 21:34 < mokomull> I choose topics so I can talk out my ass and the prof doesn't know any better 21:34 <@E-J> i made seminar work about guard robots 21:35 < mokomull> jd19: Indeed; I modeled my talk on SPJ's talk, which took three hours... mine was an hour :( 21:35 < mokomull> I definitely put people to sleep. 21:35 < sir_lewk> there was *one* semi-stoner kid at the back of the room who approuched me at the end and asked if I was bullshitting, he had a programmer friend or something 21:36 <@E-J> mokomull: it's good skill to put to your cv "i can make people sleepy" 21:36 < sir_lewk> he was cool though, he kept my presentation going by asking random legit sounding questions 21:36 < i_c-Y> my last presentation in highschool was about organometallic poisoning 21:36 < sir_lewk> like mercury fish? 21:36 < sir_lewk> what's organometallic? 21:37 <@E-J> i_c-Y: in case you are intressed, soilwork and some other bands are in tour in USA now http://www.swallowthesun.net/2007/index.php?id=13 21:37 <+jd19> i set up a linksys router with WEP enabled/not broadcasting and showed how to find the routers name and crack the WEP key using aircrack-ng 21:37 <+jd19> so simple and it pretty much got me an automatic A 21:37 < sir_lewk> nice 21:37 < i_c-Y> nothing on spring break :( 21:38 < sir_lewk> I'd have been afraid of some luddite teacher getting me in trouble for that 21:38 <+jd19> well what are they gonna do 21:38 <+jd19> it was my router, and both my computers 21:38 < i_c-Y> though the one in the highline ballroom is pretty close 21:38 < sir_lewk> in my school? try to get you arrested 21:38 < sir_lewk> like, seriously 21:38 <@_Auron_> sir_lewk: wtf? 21:39 <+jd19> i did note that the computers/router were not connected in any way to my college's network 21:39 < sir_lewk> my school was a little crazy about "haxx0rz" 21:39 <@_Auron_> sir_lewk: wat. they were paranoid? 21:39 < sir_lewk> yeah, to the extreme 21:39 <@_Auron_> why o.O 21:39 < sir_lewk> pricipal tried to get a kid arrested for using a flashdrive in the library once 21:40 < sir_lewk> dunno, just idiots I guess 21:40 < mokomull> DUDE I THOUGHT THAT ONLY HAPPENED AT MY SCHOOL 21:40 < sir_lewk> lol, nope. 21:40 < mokomull> I got yelled at for having a flash drive to save my files 21:40 < sir_lewk> yeah, same here 21:40 <+jd19> my college had a red hat 6 server running on the network for some reason, and they had ssh and telnet open to the internal network, and telnet and NOT ssh open to the Internet 21:40 <+jd19> does that make any sense? 21:40 < mokomull> They also did computer security by using WinXP Home on all the computers, putting 12 accounts on each one (one for each grade) and sharing a folder from the teacher's computer 21:40 <@_Auron_> lol wow 21:40 < mokomull> [which was spec'ed exactly the same] 21:41 < Milyardo> jd19: That makes alot of sense 21:41 < sir_lewk> I avoided a lot of flac by hiding behind my "gifted" status, threatened to sue the district for interfering with my education and stuff 21:41 < Milyardo> kinda 21:41 <@_Auron_> I broke the freeze program they had because I knew the password, and installed IDEs on the computers I used 21:41 <@_Auron_> refroze after installing 21:41 <+jd19> why have telnet open to the Internet while ssh is filtered?? 21:41 <+jd19> shouldn't you want it the other way around??? 21:41 < sir_lewk> I just repartitioned the drives :) 21:41 < Milyardo> jd19: THey obviously want their box rooted 21:41 < Ox40Work> how awesome am I? I have mad Calc skilz 21:42 < Ox40Work> I can get past MirageOS' password protection... 21:42 <@E-J> mokomull: in comperhensive school where i was 15 years ago, things are only like this http://www.hs.fi/english/article/Vantaa+fish+finger+episode+causes+lively+debate/1135242753441 21:42 < sir_lewk> some admin thinking they were being sneaky using obsoleted protocals I bet 21:42 < sir_lewk> ok, time to go home, laterz 21:42 <+jd19> they had a version of webmin running on port 10000 that allowed you to view any file on the server too, including passwd/shadow 21:43 * _Digital goes off to see how long his fresh crawl of ticalc.org is coming along 21:44 < Desensiti> what should i use to view images i make on my computer on my ti-84+???? 21:44 < _Digital> photoshop 21:45 < i_c-Y> go on ticalc.org, theres converters from graphics formats you see on your computer -> calc pic files 21:47 < Milyardo> Desensiti: There are numerous tools availible on ticalc.org 21:47 < Dam\__> Desensiti: There is one there that converts from bitmap to PIC and so fourth, and supports grayscale images. 21:49 < i_c-Y> why dont you guys go link him to one 21:49 * Dam\__ digs. 21:50 < Dam\__> Found. (http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/307/30736.html) 21:51 < _Digital> that is actually one of the best you can use too 21:52 < leofox> doesnt look like it'd work for the 84+ 21:53 < Dam\__> Works for the whole series. 21:53 < leofox> ok 21:54 < leofox> the screenie is for 84+ 21:54 < leofox> i mean 21:54 < leofox> 89 21:55 < bense> shit, there's this guy on facebook that i'm friends with that has the same first and last name as me. i just logged in and saw my news feed, and it was like "Andrew Bense is now single" 21:55 < bense> i thought my gf had broken up with me 21:56 * Dam\__ burst out laughing. 21:58 < Merthsoft> bense: It would've just said "Andrew Bense is now listed as in a relationship" 21:58 < Merthsoft> though that'd be golden, if your g/f broke up with you on facebook 21:59 < bense> well i mean, it's not like that was the first thing i thought of lol 22:00 < Dam\__> "im sorry its over kthxbai" 22:00 < bense> lol 22:00 < Ox40Work> ... 22:01 < Ox40Work> Haha, GF hacks your fb account and changes your relationship status to 'single'. That would be the best breakup ever. 22:01 < _Digital> honestly, that is pathetic 22:01 < Ox40Work> haha it would be funny 22:02 < bense> well on a lighter note, my voyage 200 just arrived 22:05 < Ox40Work> yay? 22:05 < Ox40Work> YAY! 22:05 < Ox40Work> Ima go home and eat some more PB&JOHMYGODIFORGOT! 22:06 < Ox40Work> were out of the J! 22:06 < Ox40Work> -_- 22:06 < Milyardo> bense: Now your GF has a reason to break up with you 22:06 < bense> more like 22:06 < bense> now i have a good reason to break up with my gf 22:06 < bense> (: 22:06 < Ox40Work> that awful 22:06 < Ox40Work> Girls > Calculators ANY day 22:07 < Ox40Work> If you disagree, you need to try one out :P 22:07 < Dam\__> Ox40Work: Do the peanut butter, peanut butter, peanut better with a baseball bat. 22:07 < Ox40Work> lol 22:07 < bense> when people get married 22:07 < bense> things change 22:07 < Ox40Work> Dam\__: haha you are bein funny recently... 22:07 < bense> MAN this voyage 200 is awesome 22:08 < Ox40Work> hmm, bense, your client isnt responding to my CTCPs 22:08 < bense> -Ox40Work- VERSION Visual IRC 2.0 (English) - Fast. 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Free. http://www.visualirc.net/features.php 22:08 < Ox40Work> bense: I ctcp'd your marital status and age 22:08 -!- Nikky [~nikky@dante01.u.washington.edu] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 22:08 < Ox40Work> -> {bense} CTCP MARITAL_STATUS 22:08 < Ox40Work> -> {bense} CTCP AGE 22:08 -!- Nikky [~nikky@dante01.u.washington.edu] has joined #tcpa 22:09 < bense> you could have just asked me lol 22:09 < Ox40Work> :P 22:09 < Ox40Work> This was nerdier 22:09 < bense> this is coming from the dude that was just talking down my badass calculator 22:09 < Ox40Work> :P 22:10 < bense> :P 22:12 < bense> and there's no vista64 bit version of ti-connect 22:12 < Dam\__> TiLP? 22:12 < bense> lets see if tilp2 works 22:13 * Dam\__ , for some reason doubt it will, unless you're using Vista 64-bit SP2. 22:13 < bense> wow this is 100000x better than the nspire cas 22:13 < Tari_> it won't at all 22:13 -!- Tari_ is now known as Tari 22:13 < Tari> you'd need to compile your own 64-bit driver and disable the driver signing requirement 22:14 < Tari> (which is all doable, but I don't know how to do it [compile it, anyway], and no one else has) 22:14 < Dam\__> (read: you're probably screwed. :P) 22:14 < bense> i don't know why i'm worried about this, i am just gonna go get this setup on my moms imac 22:19 <+jd19> wow...windows 7 has built in "Game Rating Systems" in the parental controls 22:19 < Tari> so does vista 22:19 < Milyardo> weee another feature no one asked for 22:20 <+jd19> wow....i'm not a vista user so i guess i didn't know 22:20 <+jd19> i just thought it was quite strange 22:20 < Ox40Work> BOO! 22:21 * Ox40Work waits for AHH! 22:21 -!- Dam\__ [~winterven@216.117.120.200] has quit [Quit: Aaahhhhhh!] 22:21 < Milyardo> >_> 22:21 < Milyardo> Ahh? 22:23 -!- Spengo [~Spengo@64.251.244.180] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:24 -!- Spengo [~Spengo@64.251.244.180] has joined #tcpa 22:25 <+jd19> OOB 22:32 -!- TD-Linux [~wheeeeeee@65.165.173.1] has joined #tcpa 22:34 < Ox40Work> HHA! 22:41 -!- leofox [leofox@leofox.student.utwente.nl] has quit [] 22:47 <+jd19> the internet is a glorious place. 22:49 <+Netham45> wow 22:49 <+Netham45> my teacher e-mailed me asking why I wasn't in school 22:50 <+Netham45> when he signed an approval forum for me to go to FBLA competitions 22:50 <+Netham45> like 2 days prior 22:55 < sir_lewk> how old are you Netham45? 22:55 <+Netham45> 17 22:55 <+Netham45> why? 22:55 < _Digital> thought you were 16... 22:55 < sir_lewk> I didn't know you were still in highschool 22:55 <+Netham45> I was 16 last year. 22:55 < sir_lewk> I thought you were 18/19 :O 22:55 <+Netham45> nope 22:56 < _Digital> http://tcpa.calcg.org/TCPA_Pictures/slides/netham45.html 22:56 <+Netham45> ok? 22:56 < _Digital> used to have your age on it 22:56 < _Digital> meh 22:56 <+jd19> you get email from your high school teacher/ 22:56 <+jd19> ? 22:56 <+Netham45> I believe I had Nikky change it when I turned 17 22:56 <+Netham45> jd19, yea. 22:57 < i_c-Y> you're 17 and a junior ? 22:57 < i_c-Y> when i was 17 i was in college. 22:57 <+Netham45> congrats? 22:57 <+jd19> do you have school email? 22:57 <+Netham45> jd19, no, he e-mailed my personal e-mail. 22:58 <+Netham45> it's a highschool-college hybridish program 22:58 < sir_lewk> http://tcpa.calcg.org/TCPA_Pictures/slides/millinao.html I still don't believe millinao is 14 22:58 <+Netham45> thru a local community college 22:58 < sir_lewk> I did that too 22:58 < sir_lewk> "dual enrollment". good stuff 22:58 <+Netham45> yea 22:58 <+jd19> yeah i took a few college classes in high school and it ended up being advantage... 22:59 <@E-J> sir_lewk: no, he isn't 14 22:59 <+jd19> time to go home from work...bbl 22:59 <@E-J> sir_lewk: he is 15 22:59 < sir_lewk> D: 23:00 < sir_lewk> he could buy booze no problem 23:00 <+Netham45> lol 23:00 <@E-J> maybe he still has voice of the child 23:02 < sir_lewk> perhaps 23:02 < sir_lewk> he could just grunt though 23:03 -!- JoelS [~JSeligste@outbound285a.pasd.tfbnw.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 23:03 -!- Ox40Work [~KevinK@68-117-29-62.static.fdul.wi.charter.com] has quit [Quit: User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby] 23:11 < _Digital> ?????????????? 23:15 -!- Ox40 [~Ox40@adsl-75-44-34-251.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #tcpa 23:16 < Nikky> I found taking college classes in high school to be a disadvantage 23:16 < Nikky> because a) the credits count against you, and local CCs aren't as good as state schools 23:16 < Nikky> well, that's it, mainly 23:17 < Nikky> and you miss out on the prereqs taught like they want you to have them 23:18 < Milyardo> I took my dual enrollment classes at a state school o.o 23:18 < Nikky> then it might be worth it 23:18 < Nikky> But I know in WA they don't do that 23:18 < Nikky> it's just whatever CC is closest 23:18 < Nikky> and those are kind of sketch 23:19 < Milyardo> oh 23:19 < Milyardo> When I did dual enrollment, I didn't goto my high school on those days 23:19 < Milyardo> So proximity wasn't an issue 23:20 <+Netham45> Nikky, the CC I'm taking it at is regarded as one of the best colleges in the state 23:20 < Ox40> So.... 23:20 < Nikky> it's a CC 23:20 < Nikky> in colorado 23:21 < Nikky> so lulz 23:21 < Nikky> that's like saying you 23:21 < Nikky> 're in north dakota, and going to the best school in the state 23:21 < Nikky> I mean, sure you are, technically 23:21 < Ox40> can I - in PHP - create a class that when called (BuKuViewManager::AddView($view)) adds the object to an array? 23:21 < Nikky> but it's North Dakota 23:21 < Nikky> !k Ox40 #php 23:21 -!- Ox40 was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [Nikky: #php] 23:21 -!- Ox40 [~Ox40@adsl-75-44-34-251.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #tcpa 23:21 < Ox40> Nikky: SHUt. 23:21 < Ox40> THe. 23:21 < Ox40> FUCK. 23:21 < Ox40> UP. 23:21 <+Netham45> Ox40, FIx 23:21 <+Netham45> YOUr 23:21 < Ox40> GODDAMN kid.... 23:21 <+Netham45> CAPS 23:21 <+Netham45> LOCK 23:22 <+Netham45> also, while you're at it, JFGI! 23:22 < Nikky> !k Ox40 23:22 -!- Ox40 was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [Nikky] 23:22 -!- Ox40 [~Ox40@adsl-75-44-34-251.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #tcpa 23:22 <+Netham45> Ox40, check #php on freenode. 23:23 <+Netham45> 20 minutes with those guys, and you'll switch to fucking vbscript. 23:24 <+Netham45> but, more imporatantly, it'd make you shut up here. 23:24 <+Netham45> Nikky, I think Colorado is a bit better than North Dakota 23:25 <+Netham45> you're comparing someone with a slight blind spot to someone with no limbs. 23:26 < sir_lewk> Nikky: dual enrollment programs look great when you are applying to college for realz 23:26 < Ox40> HAHA! I finally get to use Type Suggestion in PHP! 23:26 < sir_lewk> Type Suggestion O.o 23:26 < sir_lewk> that just sounds barbaric and horrible 23:27 < Ox40> :P 23:27 <+Netham45> it's PHP. 23:27 < sir_lewk> what is it? 23:27 < Ox40> instead of 'static function AddView($view)' its 'static function AddView(BuKuView $view)' 23:27 < Ox40> it only accepts objects of the type "BuKuView" 23:27 < sir_lewk> ... 23:27 < sir_lewk> soo 23:27 < Ox40> its kinda like C# 23:28 < sir_lewk> like 'function(int yomom)'? 23:28 <+Netham45> Ox40 only accepts objects of the type "BuKaKe" 23:28 < sir_lewk> where function only accepts arguments of type int? 23:28 < Ox40> Netham45: you are the worst troll ever 23:28 < Ox40> sir_lewk: exactly 23:28 < Ox40> most people dont use it.... 23:28 <+Netham45> Ox40, you are the worst namer ever. 23:28 < sir_lewk> ....... 23:28 < sir_lewk> pretty sure C has had that since... the 70s? 23:28 < Ox40> because vars are not typed regularly 23:29 < sir_lewk> oh 23:29 < Ox40> sir_lewk: yeah, but this is the first time I have been able to use it in PHP 23:29 < sir_lewk> I see 23:29 < Ox40> :D 23:29 < sir_lewk> why does it have to have such a weird name? 23:29 < Ox40> sir_lewk: what would you name it? 23:29 < sir_lewk> "suggestion" doesn't seem like the kind of concept I want around my language 23:29 < sir_lewk> too flimsy 23:29 < Ox40> BuKu is a big hill/castle in germany... My framework stands as a monument above all others... 23:30 < Ox40> sir_lewk: better than "accept-anything-blindly" 23:30 < sir_lewk> maybe just "type specification"? 23:30 < Ox40> sure 23:30 < sir_lewk> "suggestion" makes it sound weird is what I'm saying 23:31 < Ox40> yeah, i hear ya 23:33 < Ox40> wow, PHP on freenode ... is a bunch of total noobs 23:33 < Ox40> with horrible code 23:34 -!- tr1p1ea [tr1p1ea@124-254-96-226-dsl.ispone.net.au] has joined #tcpa 23:35 -!- mtgrss111 [~Administr@c-98-194-46-169.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 23:36 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v mtgrss111] by efneTI80 23:36 <+mtgrss111> sup all? :D 23:36 <+mtgrss111> well, actually, i don't really feel like ":D" 23:36 <+mtgrss111> more like x_x 23:37 < Ox40> Well, I got my view manager set up... 23:37 < Nikky> I thought we weren't going to treat this channel like #php 23:37 < Ox40> Im not... 23:38 < Ox40> Nikky: go be democratic or something... 23:38 < Nikky> Let's take a vote. 23:38 < Nikky> Everyone who thinks he's using it as #php, raise your hand 23:38 < Nikky> \o_ 23:38 <+mtgrss111> _o/ 23:38 < Ox40> Anyone who doesn't really care, raise your hand. 23:38 <+mtgrss111> \o/ 23:38 < Ox40> lol 23:39 < Nikky> Looks like it's 2-0 23:39 < Nikky> We win! 23:39 < Ox40> Nikky: stop looking for faults in other people and concentrate on your own. You should be occupied for a while. 23:39 <+mtgrss111> _o_ 23:39 < Nikky> That was a cute troll. 23:39 < Ox40> See, I wasnt trolling. I am completely serious. 23:39 < _Digital> Nikky, if you ever die, I'll adopt him 23:39 < Nikky> thanks _Digital 23:40 < _Digital> Ox40, wen are we ever serious? 23:40 < Ox40> _Digital: I would be ok with that, you aren't a horrible human being. 23:40 <+mtgrss111> Since Ox40 was neutered 23:40 < _Digital> hopefully that will influence you Ox40 ;) 23:40 < Ox40> ?? 23:42 < Nikky> Feel free to continue kicking Ox40 if he continues to treat this as #php 23:42 < Nikky> thx 23:42 <+Netham45> (late vote for Nikky) o/ 23:42 < Ox40> Netham45: stop being a tool 23:42 < Nikky> !k Ox40 Electoral Fraud 23:42 -!- Ox40 was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [Nikky: Electoral Fraud] 23:43 < Nikky> Didn't he tell me to be democratic? And now I can't? 23:43 < Nikky> MIXED SIGNALS 23:43 <+Netham45> hahahaha 23:43 -!- Desensiti [~Desensitz@ip98-169-72-48.dc.dc.cox.net] has quit [Leaving] 23:43 <+Netham45> bahahaha 23:44 <+Tyler2> \o/ 23:44 <+Tyler2> foosh 23:44 <+Tyler2> \o/ 23:44 <+Netham45> I told my teacher where I was, and he responded, "Oh, I forgot, didn't I?" 23:44 <+mtgrss111> !k Netham45 laughing too much 23:44 <+Tyler2> Failure 23:44 <+mtgrss111> o_O 23:44 * mtgrss111 fail... 23:45 <+Netham45> !k mtgrss111 fail 23:45 <+Netham45> >.> 23:45 <+mtgrss111> Failure 23:45 <+Netham45> my failure was intentional 23:45 <+mtgrss111> doesnt make it any less of a failure. 23:46 <+Netham45> you do realize that you're complaining about me doing EXACTLY THE SAME THING that you did, right? 23:48 <+mtgrss111> yeah, that sounds about right 23:49 <+Netham45> l 23:49 <+Netham45> k* 23:49 <+Netham45> just making sure 23:50 < _Digital> I could kick both of you if that would make everyone happy 23:50 <+mtgrss111> I backed up everything i got into my external hard drive :/ 23:50 < Nikky> !k _Digital tyranny 23:50 -!- _Digital was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [Nikky: tyranny] 23:50 <+mtgrss111> and i still have like 750 gb free 23:50 -!- _Digital [~DC@pool-71-165-124-42.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has joined #tcpa 23:50 <+Netham45> mtgrss111, it's allright 23:50 < _Digital> tyranny? 23:50 <+Netham45> I can't fill up all my disk space either 23:50 <+mtgrss111> i'm not sure what to spend it on o_O 23:51 < Nikky> crack 23:51 < _Digital> methinkgs Nikky just became a republican 23:51 <+mtgrss111> i think im gonna find torrents of stuff i'll never watch :P 23:51 <+mtgrss111> methinks i can find a power rangers torrent somewhere :P 23:52 -!- Tyler2 [~nexon@residence-204-172.henday.ualberta.ca] has quit [Leaving] 23:58 -!- Ox40 [~Ox40@adsl-75-44-34-251.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #tcpa 23:58 < Ox40> WHAT just happened? 23:58 < Ox40> OH YEAH 23:58 < Ox40> Nikky was being a douche. 23:58 < Ox40> I forgot --- Log closed Sat Jan 31 00:00:12 2009