--- Log opened Wed Jan 28 00:00:11 2009
00:01 < Dam\__> I should probably exercise more, but it is suddenly too cold to walk around campus.
00:02 <+kirsk> what is this walking?
00:02 <+kirsk> RUN, like, 15 minutes and youre done
00:04 < Dam\__> It gives me time to myself, and to allow myself to become immerse in my thoughts, usually without the risk of getting hit by cars.
00:04 <+kirsk> how long would you walk?
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00:05 < Dam\__> About thirty minutes to an hour.
00:05 < Dam\__> Depends on how caught up I get.
00:06 <+kirsk> ok, do 200-400m sprints for a couple of minutes and spend the rest sitting comfy inside immersing in your thoughts? :P
00:08 <+kirsk> its all the rage after scientists figured out being fit had little to do with being able to walk or job pointlessly long distances
00:08 <+kirsk> *jog, hehe
00:24 < Dam\__> I bet half of my favorites got pulled off of YouTube.  :/
00:25 <+kirsk> : (
00:25 <+kirsk> ive been noticing a lot gets  removed or silenced for having background music lately
00:25 < Dam\__> One of the dudes who had some very nice 3D animations got a lot of his videos pulled, too, thanks to that whole music thing.
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00:43  * Dam\__ stabs Flash player.
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00:51  * Dam\__ facepalms, because he forgot Totem has a YouTube browser.
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01:09 <+kirsk> holy shit psytrance Tool remix
01:10 <+kirsk> correction* A Perfect Circle
01:11 <+kirsk> Pet
01:11 < jd19> huh?
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01:14 < Speler> My friends attempt at a muffin costume (complete fail): http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2074/142/54/1373880225/n1373880225_30276835_1517.jpg
01:14 <+kirsk> sample:       http://www.psyshop.com/shop/CDs/geo/geo1cd028.html    1. Fun From Far Away
01:14 <@chronomex> wtf, no, that's a penis
01:14 <+kirsk> and not your friend. enjoy your hand
01:15 < Tari> ^^
01:15 < Speler> Totally an accident
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01:16 <@chronomex> uhhuh
01:16 <@chronomex> I'd want my girlfriend to dress up like a penis too
01:17 <+kirsk> Freud is having an erection in his grave right now
01:18 <+prime_> kirsk: nice music
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01:19 <+prime_> are those just samples?
01:19 <+kirsk> sadly yes
01:19 <+kirsk> that song's intro is quite awesome
01:19 < tsrk> uh
01:19 < tsrk> what does TCPA stand for?
01:19 <+prime_> the cock punisher association
01:19 -!- ReDeEm [~Kk@adsl-75-44-34-251.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 335 seconds]
01:19 <+prime_> a bdsm channel
01:20 <+kirsk> Tactical Control of Psychedelic Artifacts
01:20 < Speler> Trampoleen Cucumber Porno Amputators
01:20 < Tari> Texas Cattle Prod Association
01:20 < tsrk> awesome
01:20  * Tari checks the topic
01:20 < Tari> huh, trollfest is over...
01:21 < Tari> and yet we seem to not have noticed
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01:25 < Speler> Silly Internets
01:26 <+mtgrss111> memes are for tards
01:26 <@Andy_J> lol mibbiyt
01:26 <@Andy_J> s/y//
01:26 < Speler> No other clients seem to work on campus :/
01:27 < zeropod> Speler: lies <.<
01:27 <@Andy_J> try using esoteric ports some servers provide?
01:27 <@Andy_J> zeropod: mibbit is like cgiirc, you only communicate over HTTP from your computer
01:27 < Speler> Don't know what you mean
01:27 < zeropod> yus
01:27 < Speler> I'm an idiot with computators
01:28 <+prime_> try ssl on port 9999 on the new choopa server
01:28 <+prime_> its like metaphysics.org or something
01:28 <@Andy_J> 9999 is rather odd
01:28 <@Andy_J> 6697 is the "supposed to be" port for SSL IRC
01:28 <@Andy_J> then again it's no more "supposed to be" than 6667
01:29 <+prime_> hmm, ive seem several servers/networks offer ssl on 9999
01:29 <+prime_> try irc.paraphysics.net:9999
01:29 < Speler> Me?
01:29 <+prime_> yes
01:30 < Speler> So, what do I do?  Lol
01:30 < jd19> ..
01:30 <+prime_> phail
01:30 <+prime_> with a ph
01:30 <+prime_> step one: plug in the computer
01:31 <+kirsk> wait wait what is all this effort for?
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01:31 <+kirsk> just chill
01:31 < Speler> Naw, it dont work
01:31 <+prime_> irc.servercentral.net:8080
01:32 <+prime_> and port 31337
01:32 < Speler> Nope, it don't matter
01:33 <+prime_> hmm
01:33 <+prime_> i could set you up with a bnc for $5 a month
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01:33 <+kirsk> : o Evil Dead remix
01:34 < zeropod> Speler: can you ssh?
01:34 < Speler> Dunno
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01:35 <+prime_> its new chowned server, not choopa
01:36 < jd19> do you work for core networks?
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01:40 < Speler> So kirsk, how you been?
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01:45 < Dan_E> Is anyone familiar with this BBC Basic 83P business?
01:45 < Dan_E> Or are we not allowed to talk about calculators anymore?
01:45 <+prime_> not since last september
01:45 < Grue`> Calculator talk? In HERE?!? That's... UNPOSSIBLE!!11one
01:45 <@Andy_J> I would imagine benryves is sleeping now
01:46 <+prime_> Nikky just drives away anyone doing anything worthwhile with calculators
01:46 < zeropod> Dan_E: ask in twelve hours
01:46 < Dan_E> Well, let him know I may be able to help him with his 84P problems.
01:47 <@Andy_J> ok
01:48 < Dan_E> In twelve hours I'll be teaching algebra to 16 year olds, but if he's using his own service interrupt to preserve the shadow registers, it's just a matter of resetting the USB port status to fix the freezes he described in the documentation.
01:51 <+kirsk> Speler: idk im ok but whatever im trying to accomplish isnt coming along very well
01:51 <+kirsk> you?
01:52 < Speler> I dunno
01:52 < Speler> Things are good but I'm bored out of my mind
01:53 < Speler> I'm very successful at booking a 2 week US tour though
01:54 <+kirsk> oh cool
01:54 < Speler> However, I've yet to find a vehicle
01:54 < Speler> So I expect things to fall apart at any time
01:55 <+kirsk> ah yeah thats how things have been going for me too pretty much
01:55 <+kirsk> it comes down to one last thing and that won't work
01:56 < Speler> We're saving up to rent a van if absolutely necicary
01:56 < Speler> But then we'd have to beg for food money every day
01:56 < Speler> Which actually sounds like fun
01:58 <+kirsk> hehe you crazeh hippie
01:59 <+mtgrss111> you know what's awesome? calvin and hobbes :)
01:59 < Speler> Totally
01:59 <+mtgrss111> i can't help going back to it for pics or reference.
02:00 < Speler> Every day I was sick in bed from the age of 6 to the age of 17 I lied in bed and read through my C+H books
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02:04 < ReDeEm> So, in case you guys didnt know....
02:04 < ReDeEm> sudo does not work on windows vista :P
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02:06 <+mtgrss111> sudo?
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02:06 -!- mode/#tcpa [+o _Auron_] by efneTI86
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02:06 <@efneTI92> [Tari_] Remember, remember the 5th of November
02:06 < ReDeEm> jup
02:06 < ReDeEm> as in "sudo apt-get foobar"
02:06 < zeropod> heh
02:07 <+mtgrss111> what is sudo?
02:07 < ReDeEm> I got an 'access denied' error on windows...
02:07 < ReDeEm> and, in linux fashion, tried 'sudo'
02:07 < ReDeEm> :(
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02:08 < ReDeEm> holy crap
02:08 < jd19> holy crap what
02:08 < ReDeEm> im controlling my Media Center with my... palm pilot!
02:08 < ReDeEm> ^_^
02:08 < ReDeEm> best day of my life.
02:08 <+mtgrss111> say wha-?
02:08 < ReDeEm> Palm pilot, you know what that is?
02:08 <+mtgrss111> yes.
02:08 < ReDeEm> Computer, you know what that is?
02:08 < ReDeEm> :P
02:08 < Grue`> I have one in my pocket :/
02:08 <+mtgrss111> dunno how its controlling media center o_O
02:08 < ReDeEm> I am remote desktoping to my COMPUTER from my PALM PILOT
02:09 < Grue`> Well a Palm... (Tungsten E2)
02:09 < ReDeEm> :)
02:09 < ReDeEm> TX I have
02:09 < ReDeEm> Grue`: awesome things huh?
02:09 < Grue`> It's alright
02:09 < Grue`> It's mostly my calender :P
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02:09 < ReDeEm> its my desktop at the moment
02:11 < zeropod> is anyone watchin this? msnbc
02:12 < zeropod> well, after commerical
02:12 < ReDeEm> what is it?
02:12 < ReDeEm> if its good enough
02:12 < ReDeEm> i might get up and walk 2 feet to turn the TV on :P
02:13 < zeropod> rachel is interviewing blago
02:13 < Speler> I'm watching Scrubs :D :D :D
02:13 < zeropod> after commercial
02:14 <+kirsk> hey i can do that with my phone too
02:14 < ReDeEm> :D
02:14 <+kirsk> though i just have a regular desktop gamean pc
02:14 < ReDeEm> me too
02:15 < ReDeEm> this is my media center
02:15 <+kirsk> ok
02:17 < Tari_> wut?
02:18 < Tari_> http://news.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09%2F01%2F27%2F223230&from=rss
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02:19 <+kirsk> ReDeEm: guess what?
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02:20 -!- mode/#tcpa [+o Andy_J] by efneTI86
02:20 < Speler> Biggest question of the day:  Do I eat my oreo's or my doritos
02:21 <+kirsk> muesli or oats
02:21 <+kirsk> anything else is blasphemy
02:21 < Speler> Don't know what muesli is
02:23 < Nikky> Dan_E: benryves is in here every so often, and he made the bbc basic port
02:23 < zeropod> Nikky: welcome to the conversation from half an hour ago
02:24 < Nikky> Thanks, I read the buffer.
02:24 < Nikky> Unlike 99% of the retards in here.
02:25 < Grue`> NO WAI!!!11one
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02:26 <@efneTI92> [Storm\_] Yes rivereye, it is time to go fishing.
02:26 < Dam\__> Fuck, that movie was trippy.
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02:26 < Dam\__> ("We Are the Strange")
02:28 <+kirsk> she meets a "doll boy" and they journey to a mysterious city?
02:30 < Dam\__> From what I saw, that sounds about right.
02:30 < Nikky> Hi Grue` :)
02:30 < Nikky> zeropod: Yuck, Rachel Maddow?
02:30 < Nikky> barfbag
02:31 < zeropod> Nikky: it's funny
02:31 < zeropod> so is keith oberlin
02:31 < Nikky> I hate Keith.
02:31 < Nikky> He's a bag of hot air.
02:31 < zeropod> so?
02:31 <+mtgrss111> i glance at the buffer.
02:31 < Nikky> MSNBC needs to run Chris Matthews 24/7
02:31 < zeropod> ehj
02:32 < Nikky> Because Chris is Jesus.
02:32 < zeropod> what about morning joe?
02:32 < Nikky> The show sucks.
02:32 < Nikky> Geist is a bitch.
02:32 < zeropod> fuck you
02:32 < Speler> Lol... Chris Died for You
02:32 < Nikky> Joe is a sexist bastard.
02:32 < Nikky> I'll watch it just to see him get yelled at.
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02:33 < Nikky> Keep in mind that I love MSNBC, but I think most of their popular figures are tards. :)
02:33 < zeropod> so? lol
02:33 < zeropod> it's funny
02:33 < Nikky> I don't want Politics to be funny!
02:33 < zeropod> why not?
02:33 < Nikky> Especially not Maddow funny.
02:34 < Speler> I prefer my politics to be funny
02:34 < zeropod> if it wasn't funny people will die
02:34 < zeropod> Nikky: would you rather stewart funny?
02:34 < Speler> http://rumplo.com/assets/contrib/tees/0000/3493/3493-0.jpg
02:34 < Nikky> I'd rather not have funny.
02:34 < Nikky> But Stewart is pretty good
02:35 < zeropod> you disgust me
02:35 < Nikky> Thanks
02:36 <+kirsk> hey dont worry about it! im still alive!
02:36 < zeropod> anytime nikky
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02:36 -!- mode/#tcpa [+o _Auron_] by efneTI86
02:36 < Nikky> Hi _Auron_ :)
02:39 < obnauticu> :\
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02:41 < Nikky> Hi Spengo!
02:41 < Spengo> yo
02:42 < Speler> Spengo!!!
02:42 < Spengo> Speler!
02:43 < Speler> How you been?
02:43 < Spengo> peachy keen
02:43 < Spengo> and you?
02:44 < Speler> Good good
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02:44 < Spengo> lol
02:45 < Dam\__> Too bad Totem doesn't have a Google Video browser.
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02:47 <+kirsk> too bad ive managed to get windows to use firefox for all links even urls pasted into file explorer, but msn still launches an empty ie window before opening firefox
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02:47 <+prime_> i am glad the ban on mibbit is gone
02:47 < Speler> Silly internets
02:49 <+kirsk> haha if i set IE as the default browser it first launches an empty ie window and then ie with the page msn wants to open
02:50 <+kirsk> oh lawdy and if i close one of them it reopens a new empty one
02:52 < Speler> Oreos are so much better then I expected
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02:55 < Dam\__> You mean you've never tried an Oreo before?
02:55  * Dam\__ shocked gasp.
02:55 < ReDeEm> ohmygod
02:55 < ReDeEm> oreoooooooos
02:56 <+prime_> heh
02:56  * Tari noms the thought of oreos
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03:03 < Nikky> Wow freenode blows
03:03 < Nikky> "Hi all, It would appear that we  experienced some disturbances earlier this morning -- we're perusing logs currently, but from a first glance it looks  like we've fallen victim of a case of 'bored dimwit with more bandwith than sense'.
03:03 < ReDeEm> lol
03:04 < Nikky> I was hoping you would have gone away by now.
03:04 < ReDeEm> No such luck.
03:07 < Dam\__> I think I might be arguing with a troll...
03:08 < ReDeEm> heh
03:08 < ReDeEm> Dam\__ got trolled
03:08 < ReDeEm> rick-trolled, if you will :P
03:08  * smart__ kisses Nikky
03:08 < ReDeEm> O.lo
03:08 < ReDeEm> bad idea
03:08 < smart__> I already have his diseases.
03:08 < smart__> It's fine.
03:08  * Nikky screws smart__ 
03:08 < Dam\__> He believes that I am not smart for using a non-mouseless window manager.
03:08 < smart__> WOOHOO!
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03:08 < Nikky> One down.
03:11 <+mtgrss111> Can't wait till the DSi release o_O
03:12 <+mtgrss111> I'm gonna sell my lite to get it, then pick up a used SP eventually to stay fully compatible.
03:12 < Dam\__> ...And now, the pendejo blame *me* for starting the argument when the mark of first stone he cast lies within the buffer.
03:13 < Nikky> That's what you get for trolling.
03:13 < Nikky> Speaking of trolling
03:13 <+mtgrss111> yo
03:14 < Nikky> I hear ReDeEm was trolling pretty hard this morning.
03:14 < smart__> nik: I want to get a 50D.
03:14 < Nikky> Perhaps he should be reminded that the trollfest ended at 1815 Sunday, PST.
03:14 < Nikky> smart__: I wasn't aware a 50D existed.
03:14 < smart__> ... you serious?
03:14 < Nikky> That shows how much I have time for cameras. :)
03:14 < smart__> Wow
03:14 < smart__> :-(
03:15 < Nikky> I remember when the 20D was hot shit.
03:15 < Nikky> I remember when smart__ was hot shit.
03:16 < smart__> :-( and :-(
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03:16 < zeropod> i remember when my poo was hot shit
03:17 <@efneTI86> Zeropod: You shouldn't talk like that!
03:18 < zeropod> fuck you
03:18 < zeropod> err
03:18  * efneTI86 bends over.
03:18 < zeropod> fuck you chronomex
03:20 <+mtgrss111> I'm not sure it works that way.
03:20  * Dam\__ thinks that trolls should have their on Internet.
03:21 <+mtgrss111> they do.
03:21 < Dam\__> s:on:own:
03:21  * mtgrss111 thinks regular people should have their own internet.
03:21 < Dam\__> They do.  It's called "MySpace."
03:22 < Nikky> haha
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03:23 <+mtgrss111> Two cameras? I can understand the camera bit on the outside. Maybe the inside camera's for vanity? Is there any other device with TWO built-in cameras?
03:24 < Nikky> Yes.
03:24 < Nikky> It seems like there was a two-sensor camera a few years ago.
03:24 < Nikky> Consumer level.
03:24 < Nikky> Like one was a fisheye lens, and the other was a normal usa lens.
03:24 < Nikky> *use
03:24 <+mtgrss111> Still, seems a gaming handheld only needs one camera to sell.
03:24 < Nikky> Yeah.
03:24 <+mtgrss111> Who cares. I'll still buy it.
03:25 < Nikky> Yay!
03:25 <+mtgrss111> Shop channel sounds pretty cool. Sound system and recorder is also cool, though it seems the length of recording is limited.
03:26 <+mtgrss111> SD slot is a HUGE plus :)
03:27 <+mtgrss111> I like how they modeled the interface after the Wii.
03:27 <+mtgrss111> Heh, the DS Lite is old shit compared to this :)
03:28 <+mtgrss111> I'd sacrifice GBA compatibility any day. I can get an SP.
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03:29 <@efneTI92> [Storm\_] Yes rivereye, it is time to go fishing.
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03:32 <+mtgrss111> I'm looking for the DSi Shop Catalogue. I know that Brain Age 1 & 2 is available.
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03:34 <+mtgrss111> so is a Web application. 
03:35 <+mtgrss111> Holy crap! SMB2 themed loading screen! It's awesome!
03:35 <+mtgrss111> It features the four playable characters throwing bits of data into a box.
03:36 <+mtgrss111> And then they wrap it up in gift wrap :)
03:39 <+mtgrss111> oh....that browser looks just like the Opera browser for DS Lite.
03:39 <+mtgrss111> Which sucked, unfortunately, and I can't get Gamecrazy to buy it back from me :/
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03:44 < zeropod> chronomex: ew
03:44 <@chronomex> 19:18:45 < zeropod> fuck you chronomex
03:44 < i_c-Y> you should !k his ass
03:45 < zeropod> i figured 50 50 chance it was you controlling the bot
03:45 <+ix> Huh. Such weird reasoning.
03:45 <+ix> :-)
03:47 < zeropod> yup
03:47 <+mtgrss111> DSi is so awesome. Seems it can play AAC, that means MP3s too, right?
03:47 < zeropod> no?
03:48 <@chronomex> zeropod: why did you think I was driving '86?
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03:48 < zeropod> chronomex: you can?
03:48 <@chronomex> and who was the other possibility?
03:49 < zeropod> nikky :)
03:51  * Dam\__ decides to try out a window manager, for the sake of satisfying the troll.
03:53 <+prime_> what WM?
03:53 < Dam\__> He's pushing DWM.
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03:53 <+prime_> how does that work?
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03:53 <+prime_> it replaces gnome?
03:55 < Dam\__> It involves me removing GNOME, and changing over lots of apps to ones that don't require its dependencies.
03:58 < Nikky> zeropod: hi
03:58 < Nikky> Gnome rules.
03:58 < Nikky> Don't take it off.
03:58 < Dam\__> Oh, great, now there's another troll.  And he's reeeealy racist.
03:58 < Nikky> Tell him you tried it, and it sucks balls.
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04:01 <@efneTI92> [Storm\_] Yes rivereye, it is time to go fishing.
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04:04 < i_c-Y> mtgrss111: what kinda dumbass logic would imply that playing AAC would mean playing MP3?
04:05 <+mtgrss111> o_O
04:05 <+mtgrss111> It wouldn't. MP3 compatibility is a feature I hope they didn't overlook.
04:05 < Tari> but they wouldn't
04:05 < Tari> look at the wii
04:06 < Tari> they don't want to license an mp3 decoder from frauenhofer :)
04:06  * mtgrss111 doesn't have a Wii.
04:06 < Tari> nor do I, but I still know that
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04:07 <+mtgrss111> So, it won't be compatible? <_<;;;
04:07 < Dam\__> Arch Linux is a good distro... but their IRC community is a little bit... yeesh.
04:09 < jd19> what's wrong with them
04:09 <+mtgrss111> I suppose I can convert my MP3s into MP4s :/
04:09 < TD-Linux> I need new friends
04:09 < TD-Linux> one just called me a hyper-programmer
04:09 < TD-Linux> he said I was overly picky when I blasted him for this:
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04:10 < TD-Linux> isItInList = "pass"
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04:10 < TD-Linux> if (randomcondition)
04:10 < TD-Linux>   isItInList = "fail"
04:10 < TD-Linux> I can't remember the rest of it
04:11 < TD-Linux> but he was casting stuff to string in the logic somehow
04:11 < jd19> that's weird
04:11 < jd19> using string that is
04:11 < jd19> for that example
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04:12 <@efneTI92> [snowman] http://jrush.dyndns.org/isaac/
04:13 < Dam\__> jd19 ("What's wrong with them?"):  http://tcpa.pastebin.com/d326438c8
04:14 < TD-Linux> jd19, yeah :(
04:14 < TD-Linux> it gets weirder
04:14 < TD-Linux> also I have hacked his site 3 times
04:14 < TD-Linux> he has a $10k bet on me not dumping his mysql database
04:16 < TD-Linux> LOL "microsoft open source silverlight... mono"
04:16 < TD-Linux> http://tinyurl.com/2dacwm
04:16 < jd19> looks like a lot of other irc channels heh
04:17 < jd19> i'm going to try arch linux again here soon
04:17 < jd19> i can't get away from gentoo, it's sad
04:18 < Storm\_> I've heard good things about arch, I was jsut never able to get it set up o my comp, it disliked my chipset :(
04:18 < jd19> that nuked person is hateful
04:18 < jd19> it?
04:19 < jd19> have you used other distros?
04:19 < Storm\_> Ubuntu, knoppix, and xubuntu
04:19 < jd19> and what chipset are you talking about?
04:19 < jd19> if ubuntu works, arch works
04:19 < Storm\_> IDK I need to go through and reinstall
04:20 < jd19> yeah...sounds like you just need to compile your kernel with the right options
04:20 < jd19> and you'd be set
04:20 < Storm\_> I haven't tried any other distros on that comp
04:20 < Storm\_> Yeah I'm sure
04:20 < jd19> if you ever decide to try again, let me know and i will try to help
04:20 < Storm\_> K thanks
04:20  * zeropod pokes the internet
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04:22 < Storm\_> I have two other comps running xubuntu so it not like I have no nix experience, plus xwhiite aka wii linux.
04:22 < Storm\_> its*
04:22 < jd19> how many times have you compiled your own kernel
04:23 < Storm\_> well I compiled my own wii linux kernel
04:23 < Storm\_> but other than that never,
04:23 < jd19> yeah but there's probably a walkthrough for that
04:23 < jd19> since it's specific hardware
04:23 < Storm\_> cross-compiled*
04:23 < jd19> since all Wii's are probably the same/similar
04:23 < zeropod> i can't wait for ipod linux to make it to touch :3
04:24 < Storm\_> well its apply patches, enable wanted features compile
04:24 < zeropod> err, wait
04:24 < Storm\_> not much to it
04:24 < zeropod> *iphone
04:24 < zeropod> iphone linux to make it to the toucb :3
04:24 < Dam\__> Haskell... is it good?
04:25 < Dam\__> (Read: worth learning?)
04:25 < Tari> I started
04:25 < Tari> it's interesting
04:25 < Tari> good for number-crunching applications
04:25 < Tari> (threads really well)
04:26 < pyromania> nix on the iphone would be amazing
04:26 < Tari> I wouldn't bother with it for anything but intensive applications
04:26 < zeropod> pyromania: not nix
04:26 < zeropod> linux
04:26 < Storm\_> I spent more time getting the cross-compile environment setup than to actually compile 
04:26 < zeropod> iphone os is nix, it has a command line ever
04:26 < pyromania> yeah but anyways
04:26 < zeropod> *even
04:26 < zeropod> it's darwin :)
04:26 < TD-Linux> it's darwin
04:27 < Storm\_> Tari are there any langs you haven't tried?
04:27 < pyromania> hopefully they manage to hack the bluetooth on them soon
04:27 < zeropod> pyromania: on the ipt2g?
04:27 < pyromania> all of them i believe
04:27 < pyromania> phone 2g 3g and touches
04:27 < pyromania> i know someones working on it
04:28 < zeropod> uhhh
04:28 < pyromania> read something about it a couple days after the 3g unlock came out
04:28 < zeropod> bluetooth is on iphones
04:28 < pyromania> no i mean enabling all the things that are disabled
04:28 < zeropod> and the ipt2g is the only touch with a chip that can do bluetooth
04:29 < zeropod> and nothing in the bluetooth chip is disabelled
04:29 < zeropod> on iphone
04:29 < zeropod> except fm radio, but you'd need to solder and antenna
04:29 < zeropod> the chip doesn't do a2dp on iphone, sorry
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04:29 <@efneTI92> [sir_lewk_] http://www.cs.drexel.edu/~jlg95  I have much DATA in VELOCIRAPTORS AND PHILOSOPH
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04:30 < Storm\_> well gnight all
04:30 < jd19> later
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04:30 < pyromania> what about transferring files?
04:31 < zeropod> that you may be able to do
04:31 < zeropod> but wifi is faster
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04:31 < zeropod> and done
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04:32 <+mtgrss111> Everyone, I will renounce some of my evil ways and will NOT be developing a fully graphical japanese dating sim for the calculator.
04:32 <+mtgrss111> o_O
04:32 <+mtgrss111> I am serious.
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04:33 < Dam\__> mtgrss111:  Congratulations, you have made a wise decision.
04:35 <@chronomex> mtgrss111: you were going to do that?
04:36 <+mtgrss111> I was planning to for about 3 days.
04:36 < i_c-Y> DO IT
04:36 <@chronomex> that's so .... whatever
04:36 <@chronomex> I haven't words for that
04:37 < i_c-Y> make a fully graphical japanese dating sim for the TI-83+
04:37 <+mtgrss111> i_c-Y: Weren't you the one halfway damning me to hell the first time I mentioned it? o_O
04:38 < i_c-Y> maybe?
04:39 < Dam\__> [mtgrss111 - Control Panel]:  Sarcasm detection:  0% (low) [-o------------] 100% (high)
04:39 < Dam\__> Well, there's your problem.
04:40 <+mtgrss111> How odd.
04:40 <+mtgrss111> I thought it reset itself to 50% upon restating.
04:40 <+mtgrss111> I had visited a rather unpleasent channel o_O
04:40 <+mtgrss111> *restarting
04:41 < i_c-Y> im serious
04:41 < i_c-Y> dont give up your hopes and dreams
04:42 <+mtgrss111> It really wasn't a hope or dream.
04:42 <+mtgrss111> Though it would have been cool to port something new, but I don't have the talent for story.
04:43 < Dam\__> Story is easy.  Chick meets dude.  They fuck.  The end.
04:43 < zeropod> woo
04:44 < zeropod> Dam\__: chick*s*
04:45 <+mtgrss111> Dam\__: dunno if I can sneak that past the archivers
04:45 <+mtgrss111> I'm pretty sure there's a rule about content in these games.
04:45 < Dam\__> Replace "fuck" with "have relations."  Done.
04:46 < zeropod> release it on your own site
04:46 <+mtgrss111> I suppose I could get away with a little oral sex scene but....NO!!! BAD METAGROSS!!
04:47 <+mtgrss111> NO SIM!! NO SIM!!
04:47  * mtgrss111 injects himself.
04:47 < Dam\__> You would move up to the top of the "most downloads" ladder in less than a week.
04:48 < zeropod> yeah
04:48 <+mtgrss111> That's not the POINT!
04:49 < zeropod> ...?
04:49 < zeropod> mtgrss111: you need to get laid
04:49 <+mtgrss111> Not me exclusively. Everyone does.
04:52 < zeropod> yeah
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04:55 < zeropod> boom
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05:03 < i_c-Y> mtgrss111: it would be brandonw's dream
05:04 < sir_lewk> well shit on a stick
05:04 < sir_lewk> kde 4.2 is so badass
05:04 < zeropod> ?
05:04 <+mtgrss111> i_c-Y: to get laid?
05:05 <+mtgrss111> why are you telling me this? o_O
05:05 < i_c-Y> no
05:05 < i_c-Y> !qfind pron
05:05 <@efneTI86> No matches
05:05 < i_c-Y> !qfind porn
05:05 <@efneTI86> 733:sjrberg: * davr then proceeds to upload viruses and porns | <+BrandonW> I miss that calculator pr0n.
05:05 <@efneTI86> 1026:i_c-Y: <i_c-Y> Speler: theres always metacafe | <i_c-Y> all those sites consist of 12 year old cam whores talking about their life sucking | <i_c-Y> ive got better things to do than watch that | <i_c-Y> ie masturbate. | <+Captain_A> I prefer to mix the masturbation and the cam whores but maybe thats just me | <i_c-Y> ill qadd that as a warning, Captain_A | <Nikky> !k Captain_A child porn
05:05 <@efneTI86> 1025:patz2009: <Nikky> BrandonW: Can I come to take pictures? | <BrandonW> Fully-clothed ones, yes. | <Nikky> dang | <BrandonW> I could pull out the calculators... | <BrandonW> I still want to do that calculator porn site.
05:05 < i_c-Y> see, first quote
05:05 <@efneTI86> (Plus 2 more matches: http://tcpa.aardy.net/quotes/?filter=porn&channel=tcpa&search=search)
05:05 < i_c-Y> and 3rd quote
05:05 <+mtgrss111> it's not porn.
05:05 <+mtgrss111> you can have a dating sim without porn, i think.
05:06 < i_c-Y> well, you'll never know unless if you try, right?
05:06 <+mtgrss111> well, i could lie to him and say there's porn in it. thats assuming i was going to make one :P
05:07 <@chronomex> !q
05:07 <@efneTI86> 774: <tiff_> kiss me LewkSkywa | <LewkSkywa> I got over you a while ago tiff_ | * tiff_ has quit IRC (*sob*) [Added: DSP_Lord at 2006/11/11 21:06]
05:08 <+mtgrss111> o_O
05:08 <+mtgrss111> !q
05:08 <@efneTI86> 279: <Tyler2> i may be getting v 200 and 84+ se soon | <spengo> v200? <spengo> whys? <spengo> 89t is better.. | <Nikky_S> needs something to weigh his pants down with [Added: Peter_W at 2005/09/21 21:14]
05:09 < Spengo> !quoteurl
05:09 < Spengo> please :P
05:09 <@efneTI86> http://tcpa.aardy.net/quotes/
05:09  * mtgrss111 is not away and his status is lying to you.
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05:35 <@efneTI92> [snowman] http://jrush.dyndns.org/isaac/
05:39 < i_c-Y> congrats on the kid, SnowCrash 
05:39 < i_c-Y> err
05:39 < i_c-Y> snowman
05:39 < i_c-Y> SnowCrash's kids would be like the T-800
05:40 < i_c-Y> actually Grue` is probably more like a T-(-800)
05:40 < i_c-Y> snowman: when's the marriage?
05:43 < i_c-Y> actually, i saw a picture and i question your choice of hitting it at all.
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05:48 <+mtgrss111> the baby gets what, a week old, and has a full head of crazy hair?
05:48 < Spengo> how is babby formed?
05:49 <+mtgrss111> They need to do way instain mother> who kill thier babbies, becuse these babby can't frigth back? It was on the news this morning a mother in AR, who had kill her three kids. They are taking the three babby back to New York too a lady to rest. My pary are with the father who lost his chrilden ; i am truley sorry for your lots. 
05:50 < Spengo> this MROING
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06:09 < snowman> i_c-Y: no plans for marriage at the moment, and that's my girlfriend and the mother of my kid you're talking about...
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06:13  * Dam\__ sighs because his couple of days of solitude are no more.
06:14 < Nikky> i_c-Y: url?
06:14 < Nikky> that server is being super slow
06:15 < i_c-Y> http://jrush.dyndns.org/isaac/first%20week/imgp0186.jpg
06:16 < Dam\__> Apparently, he got into a fight with lead singer of his old band before the show they were going to be playing at.
06:17 < Nikky> oh, okay
06:17 < Nikky> that is the one that was loading
06:17 < Dam\__> Holy crap, that server is turtle-slow.
06:18 < Dam\__> It's like dial-up.
06:18 < Nikky> this picture is almost dione
06:18 < Nikky> it should help you some
06:18 < Nikky> right... now
06:18 < snowman> hahaha
06:19 < Dam\__> It stopped.  :P
06:19 < _Digital> as soon as I have that downloaded, want me to mirror the photo?
06:19 < snowman> it's my home connection, slowest DSL, and the pics are full quality
06:19 < snowman> heh
06:19 < _Digital> 15Mbps ftw
06:19 < Dam\__> If only we weren't firewalled.  :P
06:19 < Nikky> My internet is faster
06:20 < Nikky> no big deal
06:20 < _Digital> V200's, yeah
06:20 < Nikky> No, my one in sea is
06:20 < Nikky> fatty comcast pipe
06:20 < _Digital> sea?
06:20 < Nikky> seattle
06:21 < Spengo> waaaaiit a second
06:21 < Spengo> I'm doing this proof wrong
06:21 < Nikky> haha
06:21 < Spengo> I can use the MASTER METHOD
06:21 < _Digital> die bold!
06:21 < Spengo> I love the MASTER METHOD
06:22 < Dam\__> Jeez, the Church of Linux followerws are *still* going on about Torvalds' switching to GNOME.
06:22 < Spengo> it makes some algorithms a lot easier :)
06:22 < Nikky> yeah, suck it KDshit
06:22 < Spengo> to hell with gnome AND kde
06:23 < _Digital> http://atlas64.selfip.net:8888/Misc-Pics/imgp0186.jpg
06:23 < Spengo> real men don't need a gui
06:23 < _Digital> if you want full res
06:23 < Spengo> who is that supposed to be
06:23 < snowman> yeah, I need to set up a little gallery thing, thumbnails and lower quality
06:23 < snowman> Spengo: my girlfriend and the mother of my child
06:23 < Dam\__> *Sympathetic:*  What happened?
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06:23 < Spengo> o
06:23 < millinao> it's true
06:24 < i_c-Y> friggin hell
06:24 < millinao> wat
06:25 < _Digital> http://atlas64.selfip.net:8888/Misc-Pics/imgp0186-small.jpg
06:27 < millinao> ?
06:27 < Nikky> ??
06:27 < _Digital> for anyone who doesn't want to download a 3 meg file
06:27 < millinao> who is that
06:27 < Dam\__> (12:23:39 AM) snowman: Spengo: my girlfriend and the mother of my child
06:27 < _Digital> ty
06:28 < millinao> ah
06:30 < i_c-Y> ive gotta get my thinkpad repaired :(
06:31 < millinao> windows 7 is going to have multiple version retardedness: starter, home basic, home premium, business, ultimate
06:32 < Nikky> haha
06:32 < Nikky> fail
06:32 < millinao> if they are going to have multiple versions they need only two
06:32 < Spengo> T(n)=T(n-1)+n
06:32 < Spengo> hmmm
06:32 < millinao> like xp
06:32 < Spengo> how do I make that in master method form?
06:32 < Spengo> stupid recursive algorithms
06:33 < Dam\__> Think it would be cheaper to just have home and business?
06:33 < Spengo> being all tricky to make bounds for :|
06:33 < snowman> anyone know any basic, free PHP photo callery software?
06:33 < Nikky> dunno
06:33 < Nikky> I use jalbum
06:33 < millinao> is that whats on tcpa.calcg
06:34 < Nikky> yeah
06:34 < millinao> fuuck i hate big O notation
06:34 < millinao> i don't get it at alll
06:34 < millinao> i've tried like 4 times to understand it
06:35 < Spengo> well I need to get big O and big Omega
06:35 < Spengo> hopefully they are the same so it can be theta
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06:40 < Dam\__> I wonder how hard it would be to make a visualizer in C++ that will visualize my ALSA output.
06:40 < Dam\__> Just a simple visualization, like a spectrum analyzer.
06:40 < millinao> valve should make a 30-minute tf2 movie
06:41 < millinao> or left 4 dead
06:41 < Spengo> no they shouldn't
06:41 < Spengo> valve should get their arse moving on episode 3
06:41 < millinao> haha
06:42 < Spengo> leave movies to the gmod people
06:42 < millinao> portal 2 more like
06:42 < millinao> fuck gmod
06:42 < millinao> gmod can't do the right animation
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06:42 < Spengo> depends on how good the user is
06:43 < Spengo> some gmod movies are awesome
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06:43 < Spengo> also--NOW we can... dang
06:45 < Dam\__> How do we "dang?"
06:45 < millinao> god shamwow is always on TV now
06:45 < millinao> and it's still funny as hell
06:45 < i_c-Y> im impressed with lenovo tech support.
06:45 < millinao> all i hear is "need a washcloth here"
06:46 < i_c-Y> quick, good, answered all my questions, and are shipping out a new keyboard - mouse today
06:46 < i_c-Y> :)
06:47 < millinao> :]
06:47 < i_c-Y> gave me the instructions on how to replace this already
06:47 < _Digital> what keyboard and mouse?
06:48 < i_c-Y> my laptop has the ultranav, so it has a touchpad and the trackpoint
06:48 < i_c-Y> the set of buttons with the trackpoint, one of htem broke
06:49 < i_c-Y> much better than toshiba tech support
06:50 < i_c-Y> kept denying that the laptop was fucked, then some people launched a class action on the model, then they recalled it but didnt offer any compensation and the build quality was so bad that if anything was wrong, itd be "abuse"
06:51 < millinao> my redoctane dance pad was like that
06:52 < i_c-Y> whats nice is
06:52 < i_c-Y> i called them at 1:41
06:52 < i_c-Y> all done at 1:45
06:52 < i_c-Y> ^_^
06:53 < i_c-Y> said they expect it to get here today or tomorrow
06:54 < i_c-Y> today would be roxor
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06:57 <@efneTI92> [Netham45] Narf!
06:57 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Netham45] by SnowCrash
07:00 < i_c-Y> im so happy i have extended warranty though
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07:00 < Spengo> ok
07:00 < Spengo> NOW we can make fat jokes :P
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07:01 < millinao> i don't know why but i love the show bizzare foods
07:02 < snowman> hey Nikky, you do/run the tcpa.calcg.org site? or at least the gallery part?
07:02 < Nikky> right
07:02 < snowman> wanna pic of me?
07:02 < snowman> heh
07:02 < Nikky> absolutely!
07:02 < millinao> it's a trap
07:02 < snowman> http://jrush.dyndns.org/other/teh_snowdude.jpg
07:02 < snowman> millinao: darn, you caught me!
07:02 < Nikky> can yo0u p[lease email it?
07:02 < millinao> why does it matter
07:02 < Nikky> and stick tcpa in the subject
07:03 < Nikky> because I don't update it all at once
07:03 < Nikky> so email is easier to keep track of
07:03 < snowman> bleh, I suppose I could... what's your email addy?
07:03 < millinao> and nikky that is the worst typo shit EVER
07:03 < Nikky> snowman: tcpa.calcg.org
07:03 < Nikky> the gallery has it
07:03 < snowman> ok, heh
07:04 < millinao> oh god its snowman
07:04 < millinao> it just loaded for me
07:04 <+Netham45> snowman: is the kid out?
07:04 < millinao> hahahaha
07:04 < millinao> who calls birth "when the kid comes out"
07:04 <+Netham45> ^_^
07:05 < Nikky> me
07:05 < Nikky> I usually say when it pops out
07:05 < millinao> hahah
07:05 < millinao> like a ping pong ball
07:05 < millinao> and then you have to make a popping noise with your mouth
07:06 < Spengo> how old is snowman and his girlfriend
07:06 < snowman> and talk to ya later guys
07:06 < Spengo> are
07:06 < _Digital> http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts-apparel/unisex/frustrations/38db/
07:06 < Spengo> nobody knows?
07:07 < millinao> that shirt's dumb, who would be able to read ascii binary
07:07 <+Netham45> spengo: snowman's 19, I think.
07:07 <+Netham45> I may be wrong tho
07:07 < Spengo> it's a black graphic T, of course it's dumb lol
07:07 < _Digital> Spengo, you are dumb
07:07 < millinao> i bet he's older than 19
07:07 < Nikky> I want a dalek shirt form thinkgeek
07:08 < Nikky> that says "EXTERMINATE ALL HUMANS"
07:08 < millinao> i want like 50 shirts from the internet
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07:09 < Nikky> Hey zarel_ :)
07:09 < snowman> Netham45: http://jrush.dyndns.org/isaac/
07:09 < millinao> i don't know where it is, but one of them says CHOOSE YOUR WEAPON and it has a d4, a d8, and a d10
07:09 < Zarel> It's annoying when people say hi to my clone but not to me. :(
07:09 < Zarel> I FEEL SO UNLOVED
07:09 < _Digital> then don't have a clone
07:09 < Nikky>  Zarel sorry
07:09 < Nikky> I don't usually look at my nicklist
07:09 < snowman> Netham45, millinao, 19
07:09 < _Digital> or it just shows how worthless you are
07:10 < Nikky> since it's irritating to find
07:10 < Zarel> Ah.
07:10 < millinao> ah
07:10 <+Netham45> yay, I was right!
07:10  * _Digital finds Nikky irritating
07:10 < Nikky> I find you more irritating
07:10 < _Digital> too bad
07:10  * Netham45 finds the topic irritating
07:10 <+Netham45> !t Welcome to #TCPA
07:10 -!- efneTI86 changed the topic of #tcpa to: Welcome to #TCPA
07:10 < snowman> Netham45: start looking at pics at that link then! :P
07:10 < snowman> haha
07:11 <+Netham45> snowman, I'm waiting for them to load!
07:11 < _Digital> !t Welcome to #TCPA - The United States of America is the most awesomest country ever. 
07:11 < snowman> for that matter, d/l them all and mirror them for me ;)
07:11 -!- efneTI86 changed the topic of #tcpa to: Welcome to #TCPA - The United States of America is the most awesomest country ever. 
07:11 < snowman> yeah, not the fastest connection ever
07:11 <+Netham45> lol
07:11 < millinao> best shirt ever http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts-apparel/unisex/generic/65a4/
07:11 <+Netham45> doesn't help that they're 3364x2448
07:11 < Spengo> well it seems like you are pretty proud of being a father then?
07:12 <+Netham45> but, congrats snowman. :D
07:12 < _Digital> Spengo, he left
07:12 < _Digital> nvm
07:12 < Spengo> out of curiosity, how are you intending to support your new family? You seem kinda young
07:12 < millinao> yeah rly
07:12 < Spengo> oh
07:13  * _Digital goes to find food
07:14 < snowman> Netham45: I left them at full quality, didn't wanna spend the time resizing them all, heh
07:14 < snowman> Netham45: and thanks :)
07:14 < Nikky> select all, right click, resize
07:14 < Nikky> got your email snowman 
07:14 < snowman> Nikky: k, cool :)
07:15 < snowman> Nikky: no resize w/ right-click
07:15 < snowman> heh
07:15 < Nikky> what
07:15 < Nikky> I have that on windowze and gnome
07:15 < Nikky> most amazing thing ever
07:16 < snowman> sounds nice
07:16 < Spengo> snowman?
07:16 < Nikky> it's a powertopy for xp, that's what I use
07:16 < Zarel> Ahah.
07:17 < Zarel> I ssh'ed into my laptop (my roommate is using) and made it say "Hi <roommate name>"
07:17 < snowman> Spengo: ?
07:17 < Spengo> <Spengo> well it seems like you are pretty proud of being a father then?
07:17 < Nikky> haha
07:17 < snowman> Zarel: haha
07:17 < Spengo> <Spengo> out of curiosity, how are you intending to support your new family? You seem kinda young
07:17 < snowman> Spengo: ahh, yeah, and I've got a job...
07:17 < Nikky> drugs
07:17 < Zarel> It's less funny because David knows how SSH works. :(
07:17 < snowman> and reasonably proud
07:17 < Spengo> o ok, what do you do?
07:18 < Zarel> But really. IRC is a really good way to keep track of my laptop, since X-Chat Aqua automatically connects whenever online.
07:18 < snowman> construction/laborer, 13.50/hr, 84 hours a week (generally), 6 weeks on, 2 off
07:18 < Spengo> 84 hours/week? wow
07:18 <+Netham45> snowman, http://netham45.org/snowman/isaac  When they're done downloading, it'll mirror here.
07:18 < Dam\__> Holy crap.
07:18 < snowman> 12 hr/day, 7 days/week
07:19 < snowman> Netham45: cool :)
07:19 < millinao> fuuuck that's like 12 hours a day
07:19 < snowman> millinao: no, that *is* 12 hours a day ;)
07:19 < millinao> props man
07:19 <+Netham45> damn, man
07:19 < Dam\__> I would, like, die.
07:19 < snowman> but yeah, about a grand a week... it's enough to get by... sometimes barely
07:19 < snowman> Dam\__: yeah, it sucks
07:19 < millinao> now i don't feel like such a badass
07:19 < millinao> although i never did
07:20 < snowman> lot of time working, very little play, and away from everyone for so long at a time
07:20 < snowman> especially sucks being away from the g/f and kid, but I've gotta do what I've gotta do
07:20 <+Netham45> Parents:
07:20 <+Netham45> 	Jason Rush (Papersnowman aka AkSnowman)
07:20 <+Netham45> lol
07:20 < Spengo> indeed
07:20 < Nikky> lulz
07:21 < snowman> lol, I figure about half the people that see those pics (if not more) are people I know online from IRC or such
07:21 <+Netham45> I only get 10Kbps off of your server.
07:22 < snowman> Netham45: it's my home connection, basic slow DSL
07:22 <+Netham45> ah.
07:22 < snowman> I dunno if it should be *that* slow though...
07:22 < snowman> it's not that great for huge files, but it's a lot cheaper
07:23 < snowman> at the moment I'd rather be spending money on other things, and it's a lot better than dial-up
07:23 < Nikky> you should have had _Digital mirror it
07:23 <+Netham45> yea
07:23 < Nikky> his internet and server are fast and stable
07:23 < _Digital> Netham45, let me know when you have it
07:23 < snowman> Nikky: then have _Digital mirror it too :)
07:23 <+Netham45> well, I usually get 200Kbps upload
07:23 < snowman> hahahaha
07:23 < _Digital> or I could just wget it...
07:23 <+Netham45> lol, 'k.
07:23 < snowman> mirroring so someone else can mirror from them
07:23 < Nikky> _Digital gets amazing upload
07:24 < snowman> yeah?
07:24 < _Digital> snowman, what is your base url?
07:24 < _Digital> 15 Mbps
07:24 < Nikky> 'cause he's a pimp
07:24 < snowman> _Digital: for those pics? http://jrush.dyndns.org/isaac/
07:24 <+Netham45> _Digital, probabally 20 minutes.
07:24 <+Netham45> until I have them mirrored.
07:24 < Nikky> I htink I'll mirror it too
07:24 < Nikky> ;)
07:24 < snowman> hahahaha
07:24 < millinao> i have to go to sports broadcasting tomorrow D:
07:24 <+Netham45> lol
07:25 < millinao> that class sucks
07:25 < Nikky> lies
07:25 < snowman> does everyone in here have faster internet than me? haha
07:25 < millinao> yes
07:25 < snowman> :'(
07:25 < Dam\__> Hells, yeah.
07:25 <+Netham45> _Digital, estimating 1 hour for the 20MB .avi.
07:25 < millinao> he keeps talking about the "story of the game" trying to make basketball games really really epic
07:25 < Dam\__> Except Tifreak and Ovan.
07:26 < _Digital> who all is downloading from snowman's comp??
07:26 <+Netham45> idk, but too many people are.
07:26 <+Netham45> I'm getting 300 bytes/s
07:26 < _Digital> Netham45, do I have a faster connection than you?
07:27 < snowman> Netham45: HAHAHAHA, that's probably the one of her face when she was having contractions before she got the epideral
07:27 <+Netham45> _Digital, Does it really matter?
07:27 < _Digital> yeah, because I am  reliable mirror
07:27 < _Digital> and really fast
07:27 < Dam\__> Challenge!
07:28 <+Netham45> _Digital, ok?
07:28 < _Digital> nvm
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07:30 < snowman> anyhow, thanks for mirroring it guys, and if you could PM me the links of the mirrors I'd be very grateful :)
07:30 < snowman> and taking off for the night, got yet another day full of work tomorrow
07:30 < snowman> only 5 1/2 more weeks till I go home again...
07:30 < snowman> heh
07:30  * snowman disappears
07:32 < Dam\__> *Shivering:*  He's gone, can we turn the heat back on?  :P
07:34 <+Netham45> you allready did, that's why he disappeared.
07:34 < _Digital> hehe, my room is cold. My server is down to 42?C under full load for the CPU
07:36 < Dam\__> My laptop is finally nice and cool with the chill plate.  I can no longer use the fan to blow-dry my hair.  :P
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07:39 <+Netham45> brb
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07:40 <+Netham45> nevermind
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07:55 <@efneTI92> [snowman] http://jrush.dyndns.org/isaac/
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08:48 < Dam\__> Time to go the fuck to bed.  Good fucking night, everyone!  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_PkJ_4oEjc)
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08:58 < glk> I have data on the TI-89   Ask if interested
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09:45 <@efneTI92> [patrick_] The TI-85 shall reign supreme, always and forever
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10:10 <@efneTI92> [leofox] All we do in hell is play DDR!
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11:58 < tr1p1ea> man its getting warm :X
11:58 < tr1p1ea> 43C today, 44C tomorrow
11:58 <@benryves> Ack :\
11:59 <@benryves> I heard complaints from other Aussies
11:59 < tr1p1ea> thats ~111F for you americans
11:59 < tr1p1ea> yeh and i gotta work outside all day :\
11:59 < tr1p1ea> but hey ben :>
11:59 <@benryves> Oh dear, please don't die.
11:59 < tr1p1ea> hows BBC BASIC testing going?
11:59 < tr1p1ea> im yet to truely test it out, i am planning on making a small RPG in it
12:00 <@benryves> Looks like the TI-84+ is still generating "File not found" errors. :(
12:00 < tr1p1ea> :\
12:00 <@benryves> Oh, cool. :D
12:00 < tr1p1ea> strange
12:00 <@benryves> Indeed. Stepping through it in a debugger it looks like ChkFindSym decides not to find variables, so maybe I'm corrupting the VAT or something.
12:01 <@benryves> What's odd is that I've not seen these errors once on the 83+, where I do 99% of my testing.
12:01 < tr1p1ea> 84+ is prolly doing something silly
12:01 < tr1p1ea> like using some saferam area it doesnt need
12:02 <@E-J> maybe name tells all, if it would be just 84, it would like a glove
12:02 < tr1p1ea> powerglove?
12:03 <@E-J> yep
12:03 <@benryves> tr1p1ea: Hm, all the variables fit onto saveSScreen, with the exception of the console text buffer which is stored in statVars.
12:03 <@benryves> If I need larger buffers at runtime (eg for the flood filler) I allocate the memory dynamically on BASIC's heap or stack.
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12:04 <@E-J> statVars - TI Strikes back
12:04 <@benryves> Haha :D
12:05 < zeropod> morning ben
12:06 <@benryves> Heya zeropod :)
12:07 < zeropod> benryves: did you get your message from Dan_E?
12:07 <@benryves> zeropod: No?
12:08 < zeropod> check the logs about ~7h ago or so if you get the chance, it was about bbc basic freezing on the 84p
12:09 <@benryves> How do you check the logs?
12:10 < zeropod> uhh... andy has a logsite.. uhm
12:10 < zeropod> whois Andy_J benryves, the link is there
12:11 <@benryves> Oh, cheers. :)
12:18 < zeropod> so, what's new?
12:19 <@benryves> @Dan_E, if we're doing this via chat logs - http://tcpa.pastebin.com/m40dc17f2 (Cheers for your suggestion). :)
12:19 <@benryves> Ugly hacks on my part, zeropod, how about yourself?
12:20 < zeropod> just woke up, still in the recliner :P
12:23 < zeropod> ugly hacks?
12:24 <@benryves> Mm. If the BASIC interpreter hits a statement it doesn't recognise it triggers a "Mistake" error. By patching the error handler I can then inspect the place that the error occurred and implement extra statements.
12:25 <+kirsk> some chicks are wierd, 2 gave my friend some contact info but both already have a guy and dont want to do anything
12:25 < zeropod> benryves: ahh, works I suppose
12:27 < zeropod> kirsk: chicks can't have guy friends?
12:27 <@benryves> More or less. The extra statements are larger (file size) and slower (string comparisons instead of one-byte token comparisons) but improve code readability and compatibility with the Windows version.
12:28 < zeropod> ahhh, makes sense
12:31 <@benryves> Though, for the moment, I'm wishing there weren't so many different ways to format dates. :D
12:31 < zeropod> oh? why is that?
12:31 <@benryves> Having to write a PHP date() format string to MySQL DATE_FORMAT() format string converter.
12:32 < zeropod> ahh, does not sound fun
12:32 <@benryves> Easy, but tedious. :P
12:33 < zeropod> >p
12:38 < zeropod> woo snow topped with ice
12:54 <+kirsk> zeropod yes but they both have a relationship guy and dont want to do anything as friends either so giving any contact info was completely pointless
12:54 < zeropod> unless they really do wanna fool around behind their boys backs
12:56 <+kirsk> well if they do then not with us cause theyre not even responding to hi
12:56 < zeropod> lol
12:56 < zeropod> you're being fucked wif
12:57 <+kirsk> theyre not even interesting enough to even have this conversation about them
12:57 <+kirsk> im sure, i didnt even want their info
12:57 <+kirsk> but you would think if you give a person your contact info you would want to have some form of contact right
12:57 < zeropod> no
12:58 <+kirsk> ...
13:00 < zeropod> wat?
13:00 <+kirsk> not even get to know that person? over chat at least?
13:01 < zeropod> nope
13:01 < zeropod> i have given contact info just to get someone away
13:01 <+kirsk> yeah ok
13:02 <+kirsk> but, my friend only asked if he could buy them a drink and we didnt even try to follow up on their no
13:03 <+kirsk> they followed it with ..we have to go, but here's our info
13:03 < zeropod> hmm... nicities?
13:03 <+kirsk> i guess
13:08 <+kirsk> oh well lulz he had his hopes up though
13:08 < zeropod> lol
13:10 <+kirsk> haha oh wow
13:11 <+kirsk> i could only see one of the girls, my friend could see both
13:11 <+kirsk> http://94.100.114.13/461600001-461650000/461606101-461606200/461606178_6_epT4.jpeg
13:11 <+kirsk> thats the one i could see
13:11 <+kirsk> http://94.100.113.160/474550001-474600000/474597301-474597400/474597321_6_Roo1.jpeg
13:11 <+kirsk> and thats the one i couldnt
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14:15 < zeropod> wooo fuck
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14:32 < jd19> could be fake info
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14:46 < zeropod> visibility is like, 150yds here
14:47 < jd19> foggy or snowing or what
14:48 < zeropod> foggy, and snow rain ice mix
14:50 < jd19> sounds like a mess
14:50 < zeropod> yup
14:51 < ports-> hi
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15:16 < zeropod> wb ben
15:16 <@benryves> Cheers :D
15:17 < ports-> im so bored
15:17 < ports-> i had a shitty day yesterday... even though i got a bunch of money
15:17 < ports-> i should have slept in another hour
15:17 < zeropod> i bought a new ( to me ) truck yesterday
15:18 < zeropod> http://ijuln.net latest post ought to show what happened to old truck
15:26 < ports-> lol
15:26 < ports-> how did that happen
15:27 < zeropod> my cat fell apart internally, so while it was up on the lift changing it, the frame snapped, but after the cat was replaced and it was on it's way down
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15:28 < ports-> ok
15:28 <@efneTI92> [snowman] http://jrush.dyndns.org/isaac/
15:55 <+NethamSvr> zeropod, I read JUST the line about the cat first, and I thought your cat 'fell apart internally'
15:55 < zeropod> lol
15:59 < jd19> yeah that's what i thought too
15:59 < jd19> i was pretty confused for a bit there
15:59 < zeropod> ah, cataytic converter
16:00 <@benryves> Oh, heh. :D
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16:28 < Merthsoft> snow day!
16:28 <@benryves> Huh?
16:28 <@benryves> Wednesday, dear Merthsoft. Wednesday.
16:28 <@chronomex> damn kids
16:28 < Merthsoft> benryves: oh
16:29 < Merthsoft> chronomex: aren't we, like, the same age
16:29 <@chronomex> what, 21?
16:29 < ports-> im a bad person
16:29 < Merthsoft> chronomex: in may
16:29 <@chronomex> haha
16:29 <@Andy_J> Snows days would be awesome.
16:29 <@chronomex> I turned 21 in fall :D
16:29 <@Andy_J> 'Cept I'm all graduated and such.
16:30 <@chronomex> mmm
16:30 < Merthsoft> poor Andy_J 
16:30 < Merthsoft> denison never ever ever closes
16:30 < Merthsoft> except it's closed twice while i've been here
16:30 <@Andy_J> uakron did maybe 4 times total
16:30 <@Andy_J> and they hardly ever did before
16:30 <@Andy_J> they're closed today. for some reason I'm still getting their safety alerts
16:30 < ports-> wheres sir_lewk 
16:30 <@chronomex> haha
16:31 < Merthsoft> which is unfounded. before the day it closed my freshman year, it hadn't closed for 10 years
16:31 <@Andy_J> my account was supposed to have been disabled a couple months ago
16:31 <@Andy_J> but it's still working
16:31 <@chronomex> nice
16:31 < Merthsoft> they still love you
16:33 < ports-> jd19:  im getting a new mouse
16:33 < jd19> when
16:33 <@benryves> Huh, cool. If you delete your GMail account you can sign into Google services with a sane email address. :\
16:33 < ports-> 5-8 business days
16:33 < jd19> neat
16:34 < ports-> im evil
16:34 <@benryves> What sort of mouse, ports-? Computer?
16:34 < ports-> i went to circuit city... wrote the serial number down off of a mouse i liked. and i called in the warranty replacement.  :(
16:34 <@chronomex> heh
16:35 < ports-> and i submitted 2 warranty claims for the mouse because i was impatient.
16:35 < ports-> the company is sending me 2 mice!
16:35 < ports-> http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseandkeyboard/ProductDetails.aspx?pid=099
16:35 -!- E-J changed the topic of #tcpa to: Welcome to #TCPA - The United States of TCPA
16:35 <@benryves> ports-: Mm, RSI
16:36 < ports-> rsi?
16:36 <@benryves> E-J: I enjoyed that Judas Priest-alike you linked to, btw.
16:36 <@benryves> Repetitive Strain Injury
16:36 < ports-> benryves:  im confused
16:37 <@benryves> ports-: Assuming the mouse is as tiny as it appears to be in the photo, those things knacker my hands.
16:37 < ports-> benryves:  i have small hands.. in the store..  if you took a tennis ball and cut it in half. the mouse was about that size..
16:38 <@benryves> My point exactly. But I have big hands, and liked the original "man-size" Xbox controller. :P
16:38 <@E-J> benryves: good
16:38 < ports-> its going to go with my laptop anyway.. i like it because it is a bluetooth mouse that doesnt require a dongle.. my work laptop has bluetooth built into it
16:38 <@benryves> ports-: Aye, nice to see MS following wireless standards for a change. :D
16:38 < ports-> benryves:  well sort of
16:38 < ports-> logitech doesnt do pure dongle-less bluetooth.
16:39 <@benryves> Really? How rare. :\
16:39 < ports-> they dont do it for a different reason.. bluetooth is limited to 10 mbps (maybe 11).. even if its connected to usb 2.0
16:39 <@Andy_J> not if you use EDR
16:39 <@benryves> And that's not enough for a mouse?
16:39 <@chronomex> apparently not
16:39 < ports-> so when you get to higher dpi on the mouse and higher refreshes.. you get closer to that limit
16:39 <@Andy_J> If you're gaming you shouldn't be using a wireless mouse anyway.
16:39 < ports-> logitech hence just does a 2.4ghz wireless dongle.. so that they can use the full 400mbps of usb 2.0... or at least more than they could with bluetooth
16:40 < i_c-Y> they make bluetooth mice.
16:40 < ports-> Andy_J:  thats not true at all.  my mx revolution is an awesome wireless mouse
16:40 <@benryves> Andy_J: Or keyboard. :\
16:40 <@Andy_J> I'd *never* use a wireless keyboard.
16:40 < i_c-Y> ie V470
16:40 < i_c-Y> which dont have dongles included 
16:40 < ports-> i_c-Y:  not many. logitech still prefers the 2.4ghz over bluetooth
16:40 <@Andy_J> Or at least never type any passwords on it, so I'd have a wired keyboard too
16:40 <@benryves> Though I fail to see the point in wireless keyboards as a matter of principle.
16:40 < ports-> theres a wireless keyboard i really want
16:40 < ports-> its the "light" version of the dinovo edge.. but im not paying $100 for it
16:41 < jd19> just get the serial number ?
16:41 <@Andy_J> Unless you're in the middle of a 30' radius lead room... don't type passwords on wireless keyboards
16:41 <@chronomex> even a really small lead room would work, yes?
16:41 < ports-> http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/keyboards/keyboard/devices/4742&cl=us,en
16:41 <@Andy_J> I'm just that paranoid :p
16:41 <@chronomex> whoa, Andy_J, you paranoid
16:42 < ports-> Andy_J:  think about this. do you have anything of value that people might want to steal your password for?
16:42 <@Andy_J> Yes, actually.
16:42 <@chronomex> oh?
16:42 < ports-> then switch that to biometric :)
16:42 <@Andy_J> Sure, I'll get my bank right on that.
16:42 < ports-> nah the biometric implementation is lame
16:43 < ports-> when you scan the finger.. the local application verifies the fingerprint.. then it "remembers" and sends your password
16:43 <@benryves> Or just, you know, use a wired keyboard. They're cheaper and don't require batteries, either.
16:43 < ports-> benryves:  it depends on your desk situation...
16:43 <@chronomex> and you can use a Model M, which isn't any cheaper but feels so good
16:43 <@benryves> ports-: You don't have a desk?
16:44 <@Andy_J> They make USB extension cables for a reason.
16:44 <@chronomex> benryves: I type on my lap anyway
16:44 < i_c-Y> Andy_J: or do PS/2 over cat5 
16:44 < ports-> benryves:  if you have a large enough desk.. and say your tower is at the other end of it.. cords might not reach, or they might be pulled taut, so the next time you put your feet under the desk you hit the cord..
16:44 <@Andy_J> They make USB extension cables for a reason.
16:44 < ports-> benryves:  wireless keyboards can be useful.
16:44 <@benryves> ports-: USB extension lead, 99p on eBay. :P
16:44 < ports-> stfu
16:44 < ports-> its not a bad idea, thats all im saying.
16:44 <@Andy_J> I see how it is, we fight you with logic and you tell us to stfu.
16:45 < ports-> Andy_J:  pretty much because youre being ultra paranoid. a wireless keyboard is a useful thing for certain people
16:45 <@Andy_J> It's a valid security concern.
16:45 < ports-> Andy_J:  thats between you and your bank. 
16:45 < ports-> i dont transmit my bank passwords through a wireless keyboard.
16:45 <@Andy_J> It isn't just online banking.
16:46 < ports-> but i do transmit my bank passwords through wireless internet.. oh snap!
16:46 <@benryves> About the only place I can see them being useful is if you have one of those multimedia PCs and want to have a keyboard on a coffee table or something, but I wouldn't be using such a machine for anything serious anyway.
16:46 < ports-> benryves:  i do a lot of presentation work.. its nice to not sit at the front of the room, 3 feet from the projector screen.
16:46 <@Andy_J> If your'e in an office building and type your domain password on a wireless keyboard, someone could sniff it and then you can get into deep shit.
16:46 < ports-> Andy_J:  that sucks for you
16:46 < ports-> people can sniff anything..
16:47 <@Andy_J> If it's in HTTPS then even on an open network it's secure enough.
16:47 <@benryves> ports-: Bluetooth mobile phone + Nokia Wireless Presenter (preinstalled).
16:47 <@Andy_J> If it's in HTTPS on WPA2 you've got nothing to worryabout
16:47 < ports-> benryves:  workaround.
16:47 < ports-> next
16:47 <@Andy_J> Get a macbook and use its remote to control Keynote
16:47 <@Andy_J> :p
16:47 <@Andy_J> (KIDDING)
16:47 < ports-> you two will tell me that widescreen monitors are bad
16:47 < ports-> Andy_J:  my macbook had a remote.... the previous engineer lost it
16:47 <@Andy_J> If by widescreen you mean tallscreen ;)
16:47 <@benryves> ports-: Not really, the software can display slide notes on the phone screen - it's better than using a regular keyboard.
16:48 < ports-> benryves:  why do i need notes?
16:48 <@Andy_J> I'd always leave a wide monitor rotated to be tall
16:48 <@Andy_J> can see a lot more code at once
16:48 < ports-> benryves:  first, id like to be able to type things up on the projector screen/word... and second if i dont know my own notes for the presentation, i shouldnt be giving it.
16:49 <@benryves> ports-: Erm, the whole point of presentation notes is to have something to refer to during the presentation.
16:49 <@Andy_J> You can't (and shouldn't) cram everything onto the slide
16:49 < ports-> benryves:  ive given several hundred presentations. ive never used notes to speak from.
16:49 < jd19> there's always something to worry about...
16:50 <@benryves> Andy_J: Well, of course not, you need to leave room for the transition effects and clipart.
16:50 < ports-> Andy_J:  no, the notes are for the speaker to use. not to put on the slide for the viewers
16:50 <@Andy_J> Surely you'd want to at least list the things you want to talk about that aren't on the slide to make sure you don't forget anything
16:50 <@chronomex> else what's the point of the speaker?
16:50 < ports-> Andy_J:  never needed them.
16:50 <@Andy_J> *shrug*
16:51 < ports-> speakers that need to look at their notes dont get $20 million dollars to build new buildings..   i do :)
16:51 < ports-> http://www.siue.edu/international/gvillofund/student_success_center.shtml  - mine!
16:55 < Merthsoft> damn taxes taking 80 of my dollars
16:56 <@chronomex> yeah, damn society
16:56 < ports-> lol
16:56 < ports-> um
16:56 < ports-> i think taxes took out $400 from my last paycheck
16:56 <@E-J> why there is flag of sweden, but no flag of finland
16:56 <@E-J> bad place :)
16:57 <@benryves> E-J: Our school had a flag up for each country that a student was from, but I can't remember if there was a Finnish flag or not. :\
16:58 <@E-J> hmm, i can recognize all the flags, but can't remember which country's flag is that red-white-blue-white-red
16:58 < ports-> dunno
16:58 < ports-> E-J: but thats the building i got funded/designed/constructed at my college
16:59 < i_c-Y> might be NL, E-J 
16:59 <@E-J> australia, germany, netherlands, spain, sweden, switzerland, ?, nigeria, kenya, india, EU, china, etiopia, pakistan, s-korea, nepal, indonesia, turkey
16:59 <@E-J> i_c-Y: nope
17:00 <@E-J> it's not european
17:00 < ports-> E-J: when did finland become its own country?
17:00 <@E-J> it's costa rica
17:00 <@E-J> ports-: 6.12.1917
17:00 < ports-> years ago.. the ISS office bought like 180 flags, for every country..
17:00 < ports-> over the years theyve been borrowed/used and not returned
17:00 < ports-> as far as the website, i dont know
17:01 < ports-> and isnt Finland in the EU?
17:01 <@E-J> and that etiopia wasn't etiopia, but ghana
17:01 <@benryves> E-J: *Thailand, Costa Rica is blue-white-red-white-blue
17:01 <@E-J> ports-: so is spain and sweden
17:01 < ports-> E-J: right
17:01 < ports-> the guy that used to maintain that ISS site was a friend of mine. but he works for the EPA now
17:02 <@benryves> Ah, here we go - http://www.flagid.org/ - a useful site. :D
17:02 <@E-J> benryves: right
17:02 <@E-J> so is wikipedia... :)
17:02 < ports-> E-J: http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?sduid=0&t=1154491
17:03 <@E-J> ports-: hmmm?
17:03 < ports-> its a good deal on the e71
17:04 < ports-> if i didnt have my blackberry bold, i would order that
17:04 <@E-J> well, i have that e90, remember :)
17:05 < ports-> yeah i know
17:06 < ports-> theres just 2 apps missing i really want for my blackberry
17:06 < ports-> podcast downloader, and limewire
17:06 < ports-> well podcasting is available, if im willing to buy it for $10.. which i am not.
17:09 < i_c-Y> lol limewire
17:10 < ports-> im paying $30/month for unlimited internet..
17:10 < ports-> i currently use about 50mb a month.. and have a 5gb cap
17:11 < ports-> being able to download my podcasts.. would be like 8 x 25mb...  and limewire might add another 100mb of songs i hear on the radio
17:12 <@benryves> ports-: Heh, isn't that "unlimited*" internet? :P
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17:12 < ports-> benryves:  yes it is..
17:12 < ports-> when i start traveling again.. i might tether my laptop to my phone
17:12 < ports-> they wont really be able to see why the traffic is different.. because i can irc/browser full internet from my phone anyway
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17:20 < ports-> ......!
17:20 <+kirsk> !
17:22 <@benryves> ‽
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17:23 < jd19> ports- = geek
17:23 <@benryves> Heya JoelS
17:23 < JoelS> benryves: whoa there
17:23 <@benryves> How's it going?
17:23 < JoelS> Dude, livin the dream :D
17:24 < i_c-Y> benryves is
17:24 < i_c-Y> he even has internet at home now
17:24 < ports-> what
17:24 < i_c-Y> he used to just irc from work
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17:50 < zeropod> so
17:50 <+kirsk> sow
17:50 <@benryves> sew
17:50 < zeropod> i'm growing fond of the iPhone OS keyboard, but it still annoys me at times
17:50 < zeropod> soux
17:51 <+kirsk> it sucks
17:51 < zeropod> for an osk, it is good
17:52 < jd19> i have a samsung delve with an osk which works fine, but if i had bigger hands, it'd be a huge pain
17:52 < jd19> i have pretty small hands for a guy i think
17:53 < zeropod> i have large thumbs
17:53 <+kirsk> i like trying to log in as admon
17:53 <+kirsk> admon is a nice guy
17:54 < jd19> admon?
17:54 < zeropod> granted, the keyboard for the Danger Hiptop Slide is still the best phsycal keyboars I have used for a mobile device
17:56 <@benryves> zeropod: Ugly device otherwise.
17:56 < zeropod> benryves: terribly ugly
17:57 < zeropod> but i'd rate that keyboard over even the nokia ones
17:57 <@benryves> I've owned one of the ugliest phones ever made, though - http://www.polyphonicwizard.com/phoneguide/3510.jpg (check out that colour scheme). :D
17:58 < zeropod> not clicking, sorry :(
17:58 < zeropod> makes irc client bug out
17:58 <@benryves> Oh, sorry. Nokia 3510i, if you're familiar with it (dark blue "metallic" plastic with bright orange glowing side panels).
17:59 <+ix> I also had one of those. Wasn't particularly pleased with it, but it was cheap.
17:59 <@benryves> Not a terrible phone, just ugly. :D
17:59 < zeropod> ahh
17:59 <@benryves> I still have mine, somewhere, should probably cannibalise the screen (12-bit 96x65) out of it.
18:01 <@_Auron_> ugh tired
18:01 <@_Auron_> the ice is melting outside
18:03 < zeropod> anyone see the news about that guy from cali that lost his job?
18:05 <@_Auron_> um
18:05 <@_Auron_> lots of people have lost their jobs
18:05 <@_Auron_> what's so special about it
18:06 < zeropod> he and his wife lost their jobs at a hospital, so he killed himself, his wife, and his 5 kids
18:08 < i_c-Y> nice
18:10 < zeropod> left a suicide note too
18:11 <@_Auron_> speaking of jobs
18:11 <@_Auron_> apparently the weather is still iffy in DFW and because of how the payrate works I'd be working a half week and getting paid less, and he's postponing starting the job until next week for me and like 3 other people
18:11 <@_Auron_> paid less per hour*
18:12 < zeropod> damn
18:12 <@_Auron_> yeah..
18:12 < zeropod> i need a job
18:13 < i_c-Y> zeropod: damn.
18:13 < i_c-Y> he loses cool points for the note
18:13 < i_c-Y> if you're going to kill yourself, dont leave a note
18:13 < zeropod> i_c-Y: he blames the hospital and bush
18:13 < i_c-Y> just blast some bitches
18:13 < i_c-Y> go cho se hui
18:13 < i_c-Y> except without the retarded nbc videos
18:14 < i_c-Y> cho seng hui i think is th ename
18:14 < zeropod> ?!
18:17 < i_c-Y> seung-hui cho
18:17 < i_c-Y> that's it
18:17 < i_c-Y> vtech, zeropod 
18:17 < i_c-Y> you know
18:17 < i_c-Y> just blast some bitches
18:18 <@benryves> Those children's toy laptops have got a lot more violent, I see. :\
18:19 < i_c-Y> ?
18:19 < i_c-Y> oh
18:19 < i_c-Y> hahha
18:20 <@benryves> I have no idea WTF you're talking about, in other words.
18:20 < i_c-Y> virgina tech
18:20 <@benryves> OH. Right. :|
18:20 < i_c-Y> damn it, i want to see more data on the T91 from Asus
18:27 <+kirsk> huh, in css, shouldnt padding add spacing to content from the width/height line without making the block bigger?
18:27 <@benryves> kirsk: That's the intuitive way, and unfortunately also the wrong way.
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18:28 <@benryves> IE does that in quirks mode, however, so slap a "Best viewer in IE 5" logo on it and you're set. The standards dictate that the total rendered width is width + padding + margin + borders.
18:29 <+kirsk> oh yeah
18:29 <+kirsk> huh i actually like the old ie way better
18:29 <@benryves> Heh, you're expecting CSS standards to be practical or intuitive? :P
18:29 <+kirsk> hehe nah
18:29 <+kirsk> im an idealist though
18:30 <+kirsk> or a dreamer
18:30 <+kirsk> take your pick
18:30 <@benryves> Just take a look at the fragile hacks you need to use to implement basic stuff like centring blocks vertically, columnar layouts or footers.
18:31 <@benryves> (All of which can be implemented more robustly and with less markup with classic table-based layouts).
18:31 <+kirsk> true
18:31 <+kirsk> and top right bottom left pixel orders for all sorts of things
18:32 <+kirsk> i always forget what comes first
18:32 <@benryves> It's like a clock, start at 12 o'clock. :)
18:32 < Merth_> so the middle?
18:32 <+kirsk> yeah thats what i just did
18:32 <+kirsk> though right isnt moving even with it set to 10
18:32 <+kirsk> blehhh
18:32 <+kirsk> *left
18:33 <@benryves> If this is in IE 6, that has some amusing bugs where it will double, duplicate or ignore padding/margin settings if they're set unevenly (different on top/bottom or left/right, seemingly at random).
18:34 <+kirsk> fun
18:34 <+kirsk> i cant even open anything in IE though
18:34 < i_c-Y> it senses your latent homosexuality and doesnt allow it.
18:34 <+kirsk> even if i type stuff into its address bar and hit enter it instead opens the page with a new tab in FF
18:34 <+kirsk> its quite amusing
18:34 <@benryves> kirsk: That's taking your default browser setting a bit far, methinks.
18:35 <+kirsk> yeah but if i set it to IE it will open a new IE window which opens a new IE windows which.... yeah
18:36 <@benryves> Heh. IE 8 is now in RC 1, could be worth trying that.
18:36 <+kirsk> ive had to block access to IE (msn can still open it hardcoded) for that loop to go away too
18:36 <+kirsk> myeah ok
18:37 <@benryves> Well, it's the usual thing of apps that you want to open links in your default browser (eg MSN) open IE and apps that you want to open links in IE (eg Visual Web Developer) open in your default browser.
18:37 <+kirsk> yeah
18:38 <+kirsk> my MSN opens an empty IE window which opens FF
18:38 <@benryves> Heh
18:38 <+kirsk> regular links open in FF (thank god)
18:38 <+kirsk> lulz were had though
18:38 <+kirsk> trying to fix it
18:38 <@benryves> XP or Vista?
18:38 < Merth_> woot for my chat server and client
18:38 < Merth_> :)
18:38 <@benryves> Merth_: Nice. :D
18:39 <@benryves> Your own protocol, right?
18:39 < Merth_> yeah
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18:39 <@benryves> Sanity intact, then. :D
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18:39 <+kirsk> XP
18:39 < Merth_> oh yes
18:39 < Merth_> http://merthsoft.calcg.org/chat.png
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18:40 <@benryves> Cool, Merth_. What did you write it in?
18:40 < Merth_> C
18:40 <@benryves> Masochist. :D
18:40 < Merth_> :)
18:40 <+kirsk> also i like how windows sometimes makes my wamp folder and everything in it read only
18:40 <@benryves> Only net programming I've done was in C#, and got a crappy web server up and running in about half an hour.
18:41 < Merth_> benryves: My prof said I can use whatever language I want, but he'll only support us if we're doing it in C
18:41 <@benryves> kirsk: Well done, you got WAMP to work at all.
18:41 -!- Merth_ is now known as Merthsoft
18:41 <@benryves> Merthsoft: Fair enough.
18:42 < Merthsoft> making the windows build was a bitch
18:42 < Merthsoft> It requires cygwin with all the curses devel stuff, plus a third-party socket library
18:42 < Merthsoft> because cygwin doesn't support bsdsockets completely
18:43 < i_c-Y> Merthsoft: you could have just used winsock on windows.
18:44 < ReDeEm> krisk: is this ad too "big" ? http://oxpoll.com
18:44 < Merthsoft> i_c-Y: i guess.
18:44 <+kirsk> ReDeEm ReDeEm ReDeEm ReDeEm ReDeEm ReDeEm ReDeEm 
18:44 <+kirsk> ad?
18:44 < ReDeEm> lol
18:44 <+kirsk> I dont see any ad
18:44 < ReDeEm> You dont have JS?
18:44 < Merthsoft> i tried doing that in VC++ but it doesn't know about my curses
18:44 <@benryves> No ads here either. Or are you still using Google?
18:44 <+kirsk> oh wait adblock lol
18:45 <+kirsk> pwnt
18:45 < ReDeEm> lol
18:45 < ReDeEm> there are two
18:45 <+kirsk> idk, looks like a fine size
18:45 < ReDeEm> banner and a text-block
18:45 <+kirsk> i wont ever see it anyway :p
18:45 <+kirsk> just center it though
18:45 <@benryves> ReDeEm: Are they Google?
18:45 <+kirsk> its out of whack now
18:45 < ReDeEm> benryves: yeah, why?
18:45 <+kirsk> the banner doesnt work for me at all
18:45 <+kirsk> just white
18:45 <@benryves> ReDeEm: Thought you may have switched to a different ad host.
18:46 < ReDeEm> benryves: why.... do you say that?
18:47 <@benryves> ReDeEm: Because I still didn't see any ads, but that's because I block googlesyndication et al
18:47 < ReDeEm> So far I have made almost nothing with google, so I wouldn't be opposed to switching. But, I wouldnt know where to switch to.
18:47 <+kirsk> hmm is it possible to keep ff from trying to connect to googlesynd at all?
18:48 <+kirsk> i guess you can hostsfile it but then it still tries and you have to wait for timeout
18:48 <+kirsk> adblock just hides the content from rendering
18:48 <@benryves> kirsk: 127.0.0.1	googlesyndication.com \ 127.0.0.1	pagead2.googlesyndication.com
18:48 <+kirsk> okidoki
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18:48 <@benryves> Worst I see is an IIS 404 on the page.
18:48 <+kirsk> but doesnt it take a while before it times out?
18:49 <@benryves> kirsk: No, it's a 404 so it's instant/
18:49 <@benryves> That's because I have a web server running on the machine, though.
18:49 <+kirsk> ah
18:50 <+kirsk> woot added
18:50 <@benryves> I don't block any other ads, it's just that Google ads get misused more than any others, probably due to their text-based nature.
18:50 <+kirsk> I've been meaning to do that for a while
18:50 <+kirsk> and now i have
18:50 <+kirsk> yay
18:50 < ReDeEm> :(
18:50 < ReDeEm> meanies. :P
18:50 < ReDeEm> benryves: misused? how so?
18:50 < ReDeEm> There is nothing I can do as a webmaster to 'misuse' their ads without getting banninated immediately.
18:51 <@benryves> ReDeEm: They merged into content (between paragraphs and the like).
18:51 < ReDeEm> O.o really?
18:51 <@benryves> Er, me speaking good English too.
18:51 < ReDeEm> I have never had a problem.
18:52 <@benryves> If I find a site useful I'd rather pay a subscription than have ads, but maybe that's just me.
18:52 <+kirsk> I'd rather not have either of the two : )
18:53 <@benryves> There is that too. :) Only one that's done it for me so far is GameDev.Net
18:53 < ports-> mmm
18:53 < ports-> lunch was great today
18:53 <+kirsk> well that makes sense, if it's actually usefull
18:53 <+kirsk> 4chan couldnt do it
18:53 <+kirsk> hehe
18:53 < ports-> i at shoestring cheese fries, a grilled chicken sandwich (toasted buns) and a coke... num num num
18:53 <@benryves> kirsk: SomethingAwful?
18:53 < ports-> or is it nom nom nom?
18:53 <+kirsk> oh yeah
18:54 <+kirsk> ports-: OMNOMNOMNOMNOM
18:54 < ports-> ah
18:54 < ports-> it was good
18:54 < ports-> only spent $7.55 on that.. stupid steak and shake
18:54 < ports-> the soda cost as much as the fries or the sandwich
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18:55 <+kirsk> it makes me so sad that fastfood is cheap
18:55 < ports-> steak and shake isnt really fast food
18:55 < ports-> its probably the same quality meat/produce... but its meant to be a decent dine in
18:55 <+kirsk> ok
18:55 <+kirsk> well thats still something that makes me sad
18:56 <+kirsk> of course prices here are ridiculous
18:56 < Merthsoft> soda is the leading cuase of obesity and tooth decay in america
18:56 < ports-> Merthsoft:  so?
18:56 <+kirsk> at the cafe i go to: 200gram chicken in sate + some fries and lettuce = blam 10 euro
18:56 < ports-> what was the point of sharing that?
18:56 < Merthsoft> what was the point of sharing what you had for lunch?
18:56 < ports-> kirsk:  no bread?
18:56 < Merthsoft> this is IRC, there's really no point in anything we say
18:56 < ports-> Merthsoft:  mine was at least interesting. it sparked a good conversation with kirsk 
18:57 < ports-> youre sharing useful, unprovable theories.
18:57 <+kirsk> nah its kinda like this: http://www.restaurant-marina.nl/images/foto_kipsate.jpg
18:57 < Merthsoft> no conversation involving either you or kirsk is good
18:57 <+kirsk> and bread is useless
18:57 < ports-> kirsk:  ah. i thought there would be more gravy
18:57 < ports-> that looks really good
18:57 <+kirsk> nah no gravy
18:57 <+kirsk> and its a single hueg stick with chicken on it
18:57 <+kirsk> covered in sate sauce
18:58 <+kirsk> and big belgian fries
18:58 <+kirsk> OMNOMNOMNOMNOM
18:58 < ports-> what do you do with the lettuce and tomato? eat them separately?
18:58 <+kirsk> swallow them whole :P
18:58 < ports-> they really should cut the tomato into dices and grill it on the stick with the chicken
18:58 < ports-> ever had chicken kabobs?
18:58 <+kirsk> chicken kebab <3
18:59 < ports-> nomnomnomn
18:59 <+kirsk> i always get chicken if they have it
18:59 < ports-> i made steak kabobs once..
18:59 < ports-> i dont know if they were any good
18:59 < ports-> my girlfriends dad liked them because i made them well done.
18:59 < Merthsoft> chicken is my favorite meat
19:00 < ports-> Merthsoft:  chicken are grown with lots of antibiotics and extra wings/breasts.
19:00 <+kirsk> which makes them excellent
19:00 < Merthsoft> i love extra wings
19:00 < ports-> i like the no antibiotic chickens
19:01 < ports-> they actually inject the antibiotics into the eggs.. so its technically not a chicken then
19:01 <@E-J> Merthsoft: true, you can't fly without them
19:01 < Merthsoft> hi E-J 
19:01 < ports-> E-J: more than 2 wings on a bird isnt useful for flying
19:01 < Merthsoft> i'm not a birc
19:01 < Merthsoft> bird
19:02 < ports-> no you just have the brain of one
19:02 <@E-J> hi shaun
19:02 < Merthsoft> !k ports- fuck you ports
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19:02 < ports-> swear kick!
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19:02 < ports-> someone kick him
19:02 < Merthsoft> as long as the swearing isn't excessive, it's usually ok
19:03 < Merthsoft> even michael doesn't kick on swears anymore. we broke him
19:03 < Dam\__> If you're talking about yesterday, that *was* kind of uncalled for...
19:03 < Dam\__> * this morning
19:03 < ports-> lol
19:03 < Merthsoft> what happened this morning?
19:03 < ports-> Dam\__:  did Andy_J  act a fool again?
19:05 <@Andy_J> !seen benryves
19:05 <@efneTI86> benryves (~benryves@host81-157-218-48.range81-157.btcentralplus.com) was last seen parting #tcpa 9 minutes ago stating "{}".
19:05 <@Andy_J> bah.
19:05 < zeropod> Andy_J: ?
19:06 <@Andy_J> Dan_E had a message for him, and I just remembered about it
19:06 < Merthsoft> Dan_E needs to come back again. Last time he came back was 10 minutes before I was meeting my g/f...
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19:06 <@efneTI92> [rivereye] Is it time to go fishing?
19:07 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v rivereye] by efneTI86
19:07 <@Andy_J> last night?
19:07 < Merthsoft> He was back last night?
19:07 < Merthsoft> Well, last time he came back and I saw him.
19:07 <@Andy_J> yes.
19:07 <@Andy_J> around 20:30 EST
19:08 < Merthsoft> hmm
19:08 <@Andy_J> chatted for a few minutes then idled until midnight
19:08 < Merthsoft> wtf was i going
19:08 < Merthsoft> oh, programming
19:08 < Merthsoft> i was distracted by networks!
19:08 < Merthsoft> this has been the most fun i've had programming in a while
19:11 < jd19> fun programming?
19:11 <+kirsk> lolvocals "All the shings.. you didn't sey.."
19:15 <+kirsk> gotta love amateur psytrance djs trying to sing vocals
19:15 < Merthsoft> jd19: All programming is fun!
19:16 < Dam\__> It's nice having a laptop in the middle of boring classes.
19:17 <+kirsk> its even nicer to have legs to walk out of boring classes with
19:17 < jd19> i used to have fun programming
19:17 < Dam\__> It's nicer, still, to be able to stay in the boring classes without getting deducted for walking out.
19:18 <+kirsk> its even nicer, still, to be able to walk out of boring classes without getting in trouble for it
19:19 < Merthsoft> it's even nicer to have all the knowledge in the world already in your brain so you don't need class. now stfu
19:20 <+kirsk> that would be boring
19:20 < Merthsoft> no no, i said stfu
19:20 <+kirsk> its quite fun to imagine someone in the us sitting behind his desk going stfuuuuuu stfuuuuuuuuuu
19:21 <+kirsk> (like its a word)
19:21 < Merthsoft> cute
19:24 <+kirsk> There should be a css property to erase all properties before that one
19:28 < zeropod> like /clear
19:28 <+kirsk> yeah
19:29 <+kirsk> so if you have an overriding stylesheet it can just do identifier { clear; color: black; } and it'd only have a black color nothing else
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20:23 <+kirsk> http://zip.4chan.org/fit/src/1233173533330.jpg
20:23 <+kirsk> lol
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20:24 <+kirsk> http://www.joeydevilla.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/your_mom_wasnt_your_dads_first.jpg
20:24 <+kirsk> nonchan link
20:25 < jd19> whats up with 4chan anyway
20:25 <+kirsk> ?
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20:25 < jd19> what is it
20:25 < jd19> i'm too lazy to go look
20:25 < jd19> the originator of meme's
20:25 < jd19> ?
20:25 <+kirsk> just a collection of imageboards
20:26 <+kirsk> i like the tv and fitness boards
20:31 < jd19> oh
20:32 < jd19> i was reading about it on wikipedia
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20:38 < DeepPurpl> i am looking for the arrow symbole on my calculator does any body know where it is?
20:39 <+kirsk> maybe its on your desk, in your pocket, or in your backpack
20:39 <@E-J> what calculator and which arrow
20:40 < DeepPurpl> ti 84 + silver
20:40 < DeepPurpl> the right facing one i cant find it 
20:40 <@Andy_J> press STO>
20:40 <+kirsk> > or the store arrow?
20:40 <@Andy_J> above ON
20:40 <@E-J> sto-> might be ... /me slow
20:41 < DeepPurpl> is that what that function does?
20:41 <@Andy_J> is what what what function does?
20:41 <@E-J> yes, it's stores things to variables
20:41 <@Andy_J> ... oh god, three whats in a row
20:41 <@Andy_J> and it's a proper sentence <+<
20:42 < DeepPurpl> thank E-J as you can tell i am still a novice.
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20:42 <@E-J> we have all been
20:43 < DeepPurpl> do you have any good tips?
20:43 <@E-J> still, i think i read these from manual
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20:43 <@E-J> i doubt, because i have no ti-84, i'm ti-86 user
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20:44 < DeepPurpl> thanks for you help i have to go eat.
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20:44 <@E-J> np
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21:39 < Nikky> JoelS: Facebook sucks. Why haven't you released an xmpp gateway for FB chat yet.
21:39 < Nikky> Or is that too hard?
21:39 < JoelS> Dude, how come every time you say somethign its always "FB sucks"...
21:40 < JoelS> Nikky: planning for over 200 million users chat traffic is not a trivial piece of code
21:40 < Nikky> You seem to handle billions of pictures just fine.
21:40 < JoelS> And there was a LONG rollout for that project
21:40 < Nikky> Or I could continue to use this hacky plugin for pidgin.
21:40 < Nikky> That's cool too
21:40 < JoelS> Please, do!
21:41 < Nikky> Myspace chat is better than this crap
21:41 < JoelS> Okay, then go use myspace
21:41 < Nikky> I will.
21:41 < Nikky> Wait, which one is myspace again?
21:41 < smart_> Hahahaha
21:41 < Merthsoft> fight fight fight
21:41 < Nikky> Is that www.facebook.com or www.myspace.com?
21:41  * smart_ rings the bell
21:41 < JoelS> www.myspace.com.
21:41 < Nikky> They seem equally shitty
21:41 < Nikky> Although Tom at least seems smart.
21:42 < Merthsoft> There are two kinds of social network services, the ones everyone complains about, and the ones no one uses
21:42 < Nikky> Besides, out of those 200 million users, I doubt more than 500,000 would care about xmpp
21:42 < Nikky> But those 500k are very eager for it
21:42 < Nikky> And are wise not to piss off!
21:42 < Nikky> Before they go and make something better
21:42 < JoelS> You're very naive.
21:42 < Nikky> You're a dumbass.
21:43 < Nikky> Call it equal?
21:43  * smart_ proclaims that JoelS has taken the trollbait.
21:43 < Nikky> Just because I'm the only here who doesn't lick your balls doesn't mean I'm naive.
21:43  * JoelS moves on
21:43 < JoelS> smart_: how's it going man?
21:43 < Nikky> smart_: Victory!
21:43 < smart_> Pretty good, I suppose.  Graduated and all that good stuff.
21:44 < JoelS> Nice, what you doing?
21:44 <@E-J> smart_: graduated to what?
21:44 < smart_> Freelance consulting.  Picking my business back up.
21:44 < smart_> e-j: From college.
21:44 < Nikky> being a camfag
21:44 < JoelS> smart_: what type of consulting?
21:44 < smart_> Computer, networking, general stuff.
21:45 < smart_> I cover a lot
21:45 < smart_> House calls, business calls.
21:45 < smart_> Network setup, maintenance.... websites..
21:45 < Nikky> Prostitution.
21:45 < smart_> When times are tough.
21:46 < JoelS> Lemme know if you want an interview with IT or something here :D
21:46 < smart_> Haha
21:46 < smart_> Will do ;-)
21:46 < smart_> I'm hoping to avoid the "real world" for a while longer.
21:46 < Nikky> Well, facebook is more of a sandbox
21:46 < smart_> I'm doing well enough now that I don't need a real job.
21:46 < smart_> I'm hoping it stays that way.
21:46 <+kirsk> wtf, 2 peanutbutter sandwiches + milk = 500 cals?
21:47 < JoelS> kirsk: if not more - peanut butter is pretty high, as is bread
21:47 <+kirsk> i know
21:47 <@E-J> smart_: so you are bachelor of something?
21:47 <+kirsk> just checking im not crazy filling in this excell sheet
21:48 < smart_> E-J: Business Administration, with a concentration in Management Information Systems
21:48 <@E-J> ok
21:48 < Nikky> You're kidding
21:48 < Nikky> A Business tard?
21:48 < Nikky> I'm not sure I can talk to you anymore.
21:48 < smart_> ;-)
21:48 < smart_> Sure am.
21:48 <@E-J> :)
21:49 < Merthsoft> Nikky: you hate everyone
21:49 < Nikky> I love you.
21:49 < Nikky> Now bend over
21:49 <@E-J> well, we still talk to you, nikky, after all you are humanist/politic tard
21:49 <+kirsk> "concentration" = major?
21:49 < smart_> Man... if I'm gonna stick around IRC again.. I need to install ircN again.
21:49 <+kirsk> (or minor)
21:49 < Merthsoft> neither
21:49 <+kirsk> ok
21:49 < smart_> kirsk: Kind of
21:49 <+kirsk> silly
21:49 < smart_> The degree is Business Administration
21:49 < smart_> My major was MIS
21:49 < Merthsoft> it's like a minor, but not quite
21:49 < Nikky> irssi is way better than ircN
21:50 <+kirsk> so just say what your degree and major are?
21:50 < smart_> Huh?
21:50 <@E-J> kirsk: i think he is bachelor of Business Administration
21:50 < smart_> Right.
21:51 < Nikky> kirsk: He's trying to make up for the fact that at the end of the day, he's a businesstard.
21:51 <@E-J> direct paste
21:51 < Nikky> One of *those* people
21:51 < Nikky> The ones we don't invite to parties.
21:51 <+kirsk> ah i see
21:51 < Nikky> Someone just reported this file: http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/309/30978.html
21:51 <@E-J> the ones who make their money just by moving their hands in the air
21:51 < Nikky> They said, and I quote it fully, it was "xc"
21:51 <+kirsk> (my major is business engineering <_<)
21:52 < zeropod> xc?
21:52 < Nikky> Yes, xc
21:52 < zeropod> what? lol
21:52 < Nikky> I was hoping someone would know what that means.
21:52 -!- Dam\__ [~winterven@216.117.123.134] has joined #tcpa
21:52 < zeropod> fuck! hide
21:52 < Dam\__> Boo.
21:52 <+kirsk> but for us majors = choose some random projects and classes
21:53 -!- bense [~af@cpe-098-121-222-240.sc.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa
21:53 <@E-J> kirsk: how business engineering differs from this http://tuta.tkk.fi/en/
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21:53 <@E-J> or is it same
21:54 <+kirsk> sounds similar
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21:54 <+kirsk> its all crap here though
21:54 < Nikky> nice ident smart_ 
21:55 < Nikky> asswipe
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21:55 < smart_> ;-)
21:55 < smart_> Fixing.
21:55 <+kirsk> i should just say i did play with websites college
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21:55 < DeepPurpl> is there a way to have the calc disp an answ in radical form?
21:55 < Nikky> http://www.cemetech.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3360&highlight= lulz
21:56 <@E-J> DeepPurpl: how radical?
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21:56 < Dam\__> Nikky:  I just had to see the title, and I can already predict something bad happens.  :P
21:56 < zeropod> E-J: burning bhuddists radical
21:56 < DeepPurpl> like a quad formula prog some times the answs are under a hood
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21:57 <+kirsk> Eeems better be a troll
21:57 < DeepPurpl> but the calc simplifies them
21:57 < bense> anyone know how i can install this ti-nspire software w/o a key
21:58 < Nikky> Um
21:58 < Nikky> What requires a key?
21:58 < zeropod> Nikky: he wants to steal it
21:58 < Nikky> Well, it if does, you probably need to pay for a license.
21:58 <+kirsk> nikky are you eeems?
21:58 < Nikky> Oh, I doubt if anyone has bothered to crack it.
21:58 < Nikky> kirsk: No, but I can see how you would think that.
21:59 < Nikky> DeepPurpl: What calculator?
21:59 <@E-J> <3 "almost every ancient culture on earth has a flood story. so that has to be true."
21:59 < ports-> wow
21:59 <@E-J> Nikky: 84
21:59 < ports-> you girls talk a lot
21:59 < Nikky> oh
21:59 < DeepPurpl> ti 84+ silver
21:59 < ports-> hi nikky
21:59 < Nikky> E-J: I know, right.
21:59 < ports-> Nikky:  id call you a girl name.... but you already have one
21:59 < smart_> Nikky: When are you graduating?
21:59 < Nikky> smart_: Next June.
21:59 < Nikky> ports-: I know, isn't that handy?
22:00 <+kirsk> "You can never scientifically prove something true, hence it is a theory." huhwhat
22:00 < Nikky> Can the 84 even do radicals?
22:00 < DeepPurpl> how do i make the calc disp an answer in radical form aka under the hood
22:00 <@E-J> is there >frac
22:00 < DeepPurpl> yes
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22:01 < Nikky> I don't remember. Radicals makes me think it needs a CAS.
22:01 < zeropod> same
22:01 < DeepPurpl> >frac and >dec
22:01 <@E-J> or am i mixing things
22:01 < DeepPurpl> under math
22:01 < ports-> Nikky:  whats up
22:01 < ports-> yes the 84 can do radicals.
22:01 < Nikky> Not much.
22:02 < ports-> but can the 84 simplify radicals? NO!
22:02 < V200> Nikky, why does it highlight on "Nikky"?
22:02 < Nikky> V200: Long story.
22:02 < ports-> V200:  because i hacked you
22:02 < sir_lewk> sup nikks
22:02 < DeepPurpl> how do i stop it from simplifing radicals
22:02 <@E-J> DeepPurpl: you can't stop it
22:02 < DeepPurpl> can i reverse it like with .5 >frac 1/2
22:02 <@E-J> when you have done math enough, you can suggest when it's something like sqrt(2)
22:03 <@E-J> yes you can
22:03 < DeepPurpl> how?
22:03 <@E-J> .5>frac <enter>
22:03 <@E-J> and it shows 1/2
22:03 < ports-> DeepPurpl:  youre doing it wrong
22:03 < ports-> you have a power key.
22:04 < ports-> just do 0.5 ^ (1/2)
22:04 <@E-J> at least it does on 86
22:04 < ports-> no menu surfing necessary
22:04 < ports-> and you get the flexibility to do any root you want
22:04 < DeepPurpl> i want to reverse the simplification of radicals
22:04 < ports-> DeepPurpl:  good for you
22:04 <@E-J> DeepPurpl: from ticalc you can find programs to do that
22:05 < ports-> radicals are complex beings and they should be respected
22:05 < Nikky> radicals are awesome
22:05  * Dam\__ wonders why those topics are not just closed on sight.
22:05 < ports-> Nikky:  im getting new mice
22:05 <@E-J> but without those programs you have to be smart (not smart_) enough to make those changes in your head
22:05 < DeepPurpl> what programs? and why is this harder than reversing the simplifications of fractions?
22:05 < ports-> DeepPurpl:  just square it and the radical is reversed
22:05 < ports-> hahaha
22:05 < ports-> just square it!
22:05 < ports-> nike should steal that
22:06 < DeepPurpl> is it really that easy... ?
22:06 < ports-> DeepPurpl:  its just math
22:06 < ports-> what do you think a radical is?
22:06 < ports-> i dont like steam powered heating systems for buildings
22:07 < ports-> they make so much knocking noise
22:07 < DeepPurpl> what about the hood? i doesnt display that
22:07 < ports-> DeepPurpl:  are you trying to get out of the ghetto?
22:07 < DeepPurpl> no i meen the radical hood
22:07 < ports-> rod blagojevich is so crazy
22:08 < ports-> DeepPurpl:  no because you dont have pretty print
22:08 < DeepPurpl> what?
22:08 < ports-> i said it.
22:09 < DeepPurpl> well thanks for the help
22:10 < DeepPurpl> bye.
22:10 < ports-> Nikky:  are you there?
22:10 < Nikky> yes
22:10 < ports-> do you watch Flight of the Conchords?
22:10 < Nikky> nope
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22:10 < ports-> oh
22:10 < ports-> you should check it out on youtube
22:10 < Merthsoft> i saw them live
22:10 < Nikky> I've seen a few clips
22:11 < smart_> Anything that has to be watched "on youtube" isn't worth my time :-)
22:11 < ports-> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbbxA8a_M_s
22:11 < ports-> smart_:  i dont usually watch youtube links that people give me.. but FotC is good
22:12 < ports-> infact.. i dont share links with people unless if they are good/worthwhile
22:12 < ports-> and i like spreading NSFW links of hot girls
22:14 < smart_> http://www.realwebwhores.com !
22:14 < smart_> Thank Google.
22:14 < smart_> Now I've done my part in the sharing.
22:15 < Nikky> wow
22:15 <+kirsk> are they sure they're real?
22:15 < Merthsoft> !k smart_ 
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22:16 < smart_> There's a Christian in the channel!
22:16 < smart_> OH MY GOD NAKED GIRLS
22:16 < Tari> ...
22:16 < Nikky> So someone is arguing that god exists
22:16 < Nikky> because his mother's fillings turned from lead to gold
22:16 < ports-> lol
22:16 < Dam\__> What's he been smoking?
22:17 < Nikky> Not sure.
22:17 < ports-> cool
22:17 < ports-> or what has she been smoking
22:17 < ports-> maybe she smoked King Midas' cock
22:17 < ports-> does his cock have gold making properties like his hands do?
22:17 < Merthsoft> i would think so, yeah
22:17 < Merthsoft> it was basically all of him, wasn't it?
22:17 < Merthsoft> or mmaybe now. did his underwear turn gold?
22:18 < ports-> i dont remember
22:18 < ports-> if it was all of him
22:18 < ports-> then his sperm would have gold making properties too
22:18 < ports-> so when the gold hit her teeth.. the fillings turned to gold!
22:18 < ports-> i figured it out!
22:18 < smart_> And she turned black!
22:18 < ports-> that kids mom is a whore bag
22:18 < ports-> she gave some dude a blow job for gold teeth
22:19 < ports-> smart_:  stereotypically racist, but still funny
22:19 < smart_> ;-)
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22:21 < ports-> black people are easy to make fun of when they arent here to defend themselves
22:21 < ports-> oh wait..hi i_c-Y 
22:22  * Dam\__ whistles.
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22:23 < Nikky> Don't worry Dam\__ 
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22:23 < Nikky> You can make Indian jokes.
22:24 <@E-J> or mexican jokes
22:24 < Merthsoft> or we could all not be racist
22:25 < Merthsoft> unless we're making fun of Finns :)
22:25 < Nikky> Those dang Finns.
22:25 < smart_> There's a black guy here?
22:25 < ports-> i dont like chinese food.
22:25 <@E-J> maybe, i have some rasism in me, but just because my father is police and he have seen the worst of the foreign people
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22:26 <@E-J> and gypsies
22:26 < ports-> E-J: fuck them bohemians
22:26 < Merthsoft> smart_: Dam\__ is black
22:26 < Merthsoft> and i'm part
22:26 < Nikky> I'm like half Swedish, does that count?
22:26 < Merthsoft> yeah
22:26 < ports-> haha
22:26 < Merthsoft> bork bork bork
22:26 < smart_> Hmmmm
22:27 < i_c-Y> smart_: Milyardo is black too
22:27 < smart_> ...
22:27 < smart_> http://tcpa.calcg.org/TCPA_Pictures/slides/Merthsoft.html
22:27 < smart_> THAT is part black?
22:27 < smart_> I don't believe it.
22:27 < i_c-Y> i think he considers the dutch boers as black
22:27 < Merthsoft> mostly irish
22:27 < ports-> holy fucvk peopl are dumb
22:27 <+mtgrss111> there is no black in there.
22:27 < ports-> they rated the last episode of Sanctuary
22:28 < ports-> but the episode show date is TBA
22:28 < Nikky> haha
22:28 < ports-> no one even knows what it is or when it will be out
22:28 < Nikky> what a bunch of retards
22:28 < ports-> and they gave it an 8.5
22:28 <@E-J> i'm half savonian
22:28 < ports-> E-J: that sucks 
22:28 < ports-> maybe youll grow up and get a real race?
22:29 <+mtgrss111> ouch
22:29 <@E-J> well, i speak like capital area people
22:29 <@E-J> because i have live all my life here
22:29 < Merthsoft> i speak in what's known in broadcasting as a neutral accent
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22:29 < ports-> i speak with the voice of god
22:30 < ports-> its a very deep, loud voice...
22:30 <@E-J> well i think easiest dialect of finnish for foreign is this helsinki dialect
22:30 <@E-J> so many borrowed words
22:30 < Merthsoft> how is helsinki pronouncex?
22:30 < Merthsoft> d
22:30 < smart_> Heals-sea-ni-key
22:31 < Dam\__> I say, "hell-seen-key."
22:31 <@E-J> hell-sin-key
22:31 < Merthsoft> that's what i think
22:31 <@E-J> whith short i in end
22:32 <@E-J> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helsinki there is pronounced version
22:33 <@E-J> but people from helsinki call it "stadi"
22:34 < Merthsoft> why?
22:35 <@E-J> stad is swedish and means city
22:35 < Merthsoft> so it's like "hellsing"
22:35 < Merthsoft> the key isn't pronounced?
22:36 < smart_> [05:31pm] <@E-J> hell-sin-key
22:36 < Merthsoft> right but then he pointed to the wiki page
22:36 < Merthsoft> whichh sounds like "hellsing"
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22:37 < Merthsoft> benryves on at night?
22:37 < Merthsoft> whoa
22:37 < smart_> It's 5:30 where I am...
22:37 <@benryves> Wotcha Merthsoft
22:37 < Merthsoft> heya benryves 
22:37 < Merthsoft> how are things?
22:37 <@E-J> Merthsoft: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Helsinki.ogg in end is that "KI"
22:37 <@benryves> Not bad, thanks. :) How about yourself?
22:38 < Merthsoft> E-J: that one did
22:38 < Merthsoft> the one i downloaded didn't
22:38 < Merthsoft> benryves: Pretty good. mouth hurts a bit
22:38 <@benryves> Why's that? :\
22:39 < Merthsoft> I'm currently writing a research proposal
22:39 < Merthsoft> I got a tooth out monday
22:39 <@benryves> I see. :\ Hope that clears up soon!
22:39 < Merthsoft> Yeah. Damn wisdom teeth
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22:41 < zeropod> I'm glad I had mine removed
22:41 < zeropod> two years early, but eh
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22:43 < Merthsoft> mine are coming in, this was the only one that had a problem. the root got infected (pretty common i guess)
22:43 < zeropod> mine were gonna co
22:43 < zeropod> *come in wromg
22:46 <@_Auron_> woot
22:46 <@_Auron_> twizzlers rainbow twists
22:46 < Merthsoft> So what're you doing here tonight, benryves?
22:47 <@_Auron_> strawberry, orange, lemon, watermelon, blue raspberry, and grape
22:47 < zeropod> _Auron_: nasty
22:47 <@_Auron_> why
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22:47 < zeropod> i tried them
22:48 <@benryves> Merthsoft: Camping for Dan_E, actually. >_>
22:48 < Merthsoft> oh
22:48 < Merthsoft> Andy_J!
22:48 < zeropod> i akined them to chocolate skittles
22:48 <@_Auron_> lol
22:48 < Merthsoft> Andy_J said you have a message from him.
22:48 <@_Auron_> I like them alright
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22:48 <@benryves> Merthsoft: Aye
22:48 <@_Auron_> discovered them when I was at the albertson's that closing down
22:49 < zeropod> chocolate skittles taste like tootserolls
22:49 <@benryves> zeropod pointed that out to me this (UK) morning
22:49 <@_Auron_> tootserolls are awesome
22:49 < Merthsoft> oh
22:49 < zeropod> the flavoured ones..
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22:49 <@_Auron_> those are even more awesome
22:49 < zeropod> yeah
22:50 <@E-J> what is tootseroll?
22:50 <@_Auron_> a chewy chocolate candy
22:50 <@benryves> A misspelling of Tootsie Rolls by the looks of it. :\
22:50 < zeropod> this charger is throwing my thumb placement all off :(
22:51 <@_Auron_> lol: http://efaller.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/sphinx0.jpg
22:51 < zeropod> i need to make a charger that does not take up any space on the edge of my device really, not this inch added to the right side of my device crap
22:52 < smart_> SPam time: Anyone who wants to take pictures in a diary sort of way... www.mydailyphoto.com
22:53 <@E-J> hmmm, looks candy that's sold here with different name
22:53 < zeropod> prolly E-J 
22:53 <@E-J> mostly i'm not very fan of chocolate candy
22:54 <@benryves> I much prefer proper chocolate. :\
22:54 <@_Auron_> chocolate is popular here
22:54 <@E-J> like more (maybe because i'm finn) salmiak
22:54 <@benryves> Mmm, salty liquorice. :P
22:55 < zeropod> i hate chocolate unless it is extra dark ( 80+% cacao ) or white
22:55 <@_Auron_> ewww
22:55 < zeropod> benryves: black licourice?
22:55 <@_Auron_> black licourice is gross ><
22:55 <@benryves> zeropod: Yep.
22:55 < Merthsoft> Yum!
22:55 <@_Auron_> it tastes like ass
22:55 <@_Auron_> ass gass
22:55 <@benryves> I do not like white chocolate at all, but dark or milk is good to me. :D
22:55 < zeropod> benryves: love it
22:55 < Merthsoft> I like all chocolate
22:55 < zeropod> licorice is yum
22:56 <@benryves> zeropod: Salty, though?
22:56 < zeropod> idk
22:56 < Merthsoft> _Auron_: anise not anus, silly
22:56 <@Andy_J> if he's using his own service interrupt to preserve the shadow registers,  it's just a matter of resetting the USB port status to fix the freezes he described in the documentation.
22:56 <@Andy_J> benryves: ^ from Dan_E
22:56 <@_Auron_> wat
22:57 <@benryves> Andy_J: Cheers, I dug that out of the logs earlier after zeropod showed me where they were.
22:57 <@Andy_J> ah
22:57 < zeropod> :)
22:57 <@E-J> Merthsoft: http://www.suomikauppa.fi/product_info.php?cPath=24_38_191&products_id=2104
22:57 < Merthsoft> E-J: I can not read that
22:58 < Merthsoft> order me some
22:58 < Merthsoft> looks yummy
22:58 < Merthsoft> "30 % kaakaota" 30% cocoa?
22:58 <@E-J> Merthsoft: http://www.suomikauppa.fi/product_info.php?language=en&cPath=24_38_191&products_id=2104 can you read know
22:58 <@_Auron_> dude fins love to use the letter a
22:58 < Merthsoft> oh damn sounds great
22:59 <@_Auron_> does sound yummy
22:59 <@benryves> E-J: Wait, wrapped in chocolate too? Good grief. :P
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23:00 < Merthsoft> HALVA Salmiac "fish" cute
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23:00 <@E-J> benryves: of course :)
23:01 < Merthsoft> ooh chocolate covered 'marmelade like foam' filled bar
23:01 < Merthsoft> damn
23:01 < Merthsoft> i wanna try all this fniish candy
23:01 <@_Auron_> lol
23:01 <@E-J> http://www.suomikauppa.fi/product_info.php?language=en&cPath=24_36&products_id=66 <3
23:02 <@benryves> All I eat is the occasional Dairy Milk or Wispa bar.
23:02 < Merthsoft> I don't eat a lot of candy in general.
23:03 < Merthsoft> Any one in here ever do anything with robots?
23:03 <@E-J> Merthsoft: you can order from that store and they deliver even to usa (though it's expensive)
23:04 < Merthsoft> yeah, i don't really wanna pay for it right now
23:04 <@E-J> Merthsoft: i have done things with robots
23:04 <@E-J> after all i study automation technology
23:05 < Merthsoft> Ok, well, I'm writing a research proposal involving robots, and I need some options for hardware. I need small, cheap, robots that are easily programmable move around, and I can add various sensors to them (the paper i'm basing my reaserach off calls for 6 LEDs and 6 IRs)
23:05 < TD-Linux> those things are all over
23:05 < TD-Linux> lynxmotion
23:06 < TD-Linux> parallax (expensive though)
23:06 <@benryves> Lego?
23:06  * TD-Linux is currently building a 5 foot high robot
23:06 <@benryves> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=oUH3m6ZyW-g <- scariest robot ever. :P
23:06 < Merthsoft> benryves: I'm including that option. Sadly they are expensive and I only have a guarnteed 500 bucks to work with. THough in my proposla I'm asking for 1000
23:07 <@E-J> in our last project we used via epia as hardware base
23:07 < TD-Linux> benryves, I think that is a lynxmotion base
23:07 <@E-J> but some use pc104
23:07 < TD-Linux> E-J, what kind of hardware are you talking about?
23:07 < TD-Linux> physical hardware or electronic hardware?
23:10 <@E-J> TD-Linux: i think electronical, iirc this machine http://automation.tkk.fi/AS-84-3145-ProjectWork has pc104 in it
23:11 < Merthsoft> i need small
23:11 < Merthsoft> small and super simple
23:12 <@benryves> Merthsoft: You can pick up robot kits for education relatively cheaply
23:12 < Merthsoft> point me towards some
23:13 <@benryves> http://www.rapidonline.com/Educational-Products/Projects-Robotics/Robots-Buggies ?
23:14 <@benryves> All my links will be UK-based, of course. :\
23:14 <@E-J> i have been mostly on projects where we do all things by ourselves, so no kits like that
23:15 < Merthsoft> i donn't think kits are gonna quite work, though
23:15 <@E-J> some small pc in and every part selfmade
23:15 <@benryves> Merthsoft: I guess you need more flexibility.
23:15 < Merthsoft> benryves: Yeah
23:16 < Merthsoft> I don't think it should be too hard. I need a chip that i can program, a board i can put it on that can control servos for movement, and that can read from an IR sensor
23:16 <@benryves> I'm a big fan of PICAXE for simplicity.
23:17 <@benryves> http://www.rev-ed.co.uk/picaxe/ - again, aimed at the education market.
23:18 <@benryves> Not much processing power or program space but easy to use - if you look in http://www.rev-ed.co.uk/docs/picaxe_manual2.pdf - you'll see there's a lot of stuff built in.
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23:18 < Ox40> Heyoooo
23:19 <@E-J> Merthsoft: something like atmel's avr?
23:19 < Merthsoft> E-J: How much do they cost?
23:20 < Merthsoft> Keep in mind, I'm aiming for at least 5 robots here
23:20 <@benryves> What sort of movement are you aiming for, Merthsoft?
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23:21 < Merthsoft> forwards and backwards, turn left and right
23:21 <@E-J> Merthsoft: http://www.myavr.com/index.php
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23:24 < Merthsoft> picaxe 20m sounds nice
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23:26 <@benryves> I'm a little out of the loop, most up to date one I've used is the 28X1. :P
23:26 < Ox40> so, if Im making a website for my family...
23:26 <@benryves> Handy for prototyping, at least; http://www.benryves.com/bin/z180/2008.08.12.01.Sonic.jpg
23:26 < Ox40> to list out personal informatin... contact stuff...
23:26 < Merthsoft> it has 20 outputs and 20 inputs
23:26 < Ox40> ya know, useful things, birthdays etc...
23:26 < Ox40> how should I set it up so only we have access?
23:27 < Ox40> like, password protection would work, I guess...
23:27 <@benryves> Merthsoft: The naming convention has always been the number of pins, so I'm not sure how that's possible.
23:27 < Merthsoft> benryves: SO it can just be plugged in to a bread board liek that?
23:27 < Merthsoft> PICAXE-20M microcontroller chip. Supports 8 input / 8 outputs including 4 analogue inputs.
23:27 <@benryves> Merthsoft: All it needs is +5V, 0V and a pull-up resistor on the reset pin.
23:27 < Merthsoft> That sounds good
23:28 <@benryves> Problem is performance (interpreted BASIC isn't exactly fast on a PIC) and code space.
23:28 <@chronomex> interpreted basic has never been "exactly fast"
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23:29 < Merthsoft> speed is fine
23:29 < Merthsoft> i don't care how slow they work
23:29 <@benryves> Merthsoft: The 20M has 8 outputs, 8 inputs - and four of those 8 inputs are analogue.
23:29 < Merthsoft> i dunno what that means
23:29 <@_Auron_> lol
23:30 < Merthsoft> i mean, i know what analogue means, but i don't know how that makes a difference
23:30 < Merthsoft> does that mean i can't use them>
23:30 < Merthsoft> also, conceivably, i could link two of them together
23:31 <@benryves> The digital pins can only be seen as "on" or "off". The analogue pins can read values inbetween as well.
23:31 < Merthsoft> hmm
23:31 < Merthsoft> i need more analogue pins then
23:31 <@benryves> Why?
23:31 < Merthsoft> i think
23:32 < Merthsoft> distance
23:32 <@benryves> How are you measuring distance?
23:32 < Merthsoft> they need to be able to see each other and see how far away they are to each other
23:32 <@benryves> That will be... challenging, to say the least. :|
23:32 < Merthsoft> IR LEDs and Photo-diodes
23:33 < Merthsoft> at least, that's the description given in the paper
23:33 <@benryves> How do you intend to turn that info a distance?
23:33 < Merthsoft> I can be creative
23:33 < TD-Linux> ehh
23:34 < TD-Linux> brightness will vary by distance
23:34 < TD-Linux> but also with color of surface
23:34 < TD-Linux> and ambient light
23:34 < TD-Linux> I think there are other ways to do it
23:34 <@benryves> And angle
23:34 < Merthsoft> i've already played with robots that know their distance from walls and stuff
23:34 < TD-Linux> but I dunno how they work
23:34 <@benryves> Merthsoft: Ultrasound, that's easy.
23:34  * TD-Linux 's current robot uses a camera :)
23:34 <@benryves> Send out pulse, wait for echo, work out distance from time delay.
23:34 < Merthsoft> is it cheap?
23:35 < Merthsoft> they also need to know if it's another one of them that's around
23:35 <@_Auron_> a camera? does it wirelessly transmit the video?
23:35 < Merthsoft> so either way, i need the IR so they're unique from walls
23:35 <@_Auron_> or camera to see
23:37 <@benryves> Merthsoft: IR is generally highly directional and you'll need some sort of circuitry to handle (amplify) the signal from the photodiode (you can't just plug them into the chip).
23:37 < TD-Linux> that's why I use phototransistors
23:37 <@_Auron_> I have a phototransistor
23:38 < TD-Linux> Merthsoft, here's a couple links
23:38 < TD-Linux> http://hades.mech.northwestern.edu/wiki/index.php/Photodiodes_and_Phototransistors
23:38 < Merthsoft> You guys will come in handy this summer if i get this project
23:38 < TD-Linux> http://www.fairchildsemi.com/an/AN/AN-3005.pdf
23:38 < Merthsoft> TD-Linux: Can those do distance?
23:38 <@benryves> For IR remote controls I use a module that contains an amplifier and demodulator so 38kHz IR goes in, nice TTL-level logic comes out.
23:40 < TD-Linux> Merthsoft: generally, now
23:40 < TD-Linux> *no
23:40 < TD-Linux> benryves, I have a bucket of those
23:40 < TD-Linux> I've used them as sensors too
23:40 < TD-Linux> they are unaffected by ambient light
23:41 < TD-Linux> only issue is you have to modulate 38khz
23:42 <@benryves> Most of the devices I've experimented with have been very lax, I'm generating 38kHz from my TI-83+ and they seem happy with it.
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23:44 < ports_> hi
23:45 <@benryves> 'lo ports_
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23:45 <@_Auron_> lol
23:45 <@benryves> :'(
23:45 <@_Auron_> I had a feeling that would happen
23:45 < TD-Linux> benryves, lol
23:45 < TD-Linux> it's just annoying to do for quick projects :p
23:45 < TD-Linux> either I have to hax up some interrupts
23:46 < TD-Linux> or hax up a 555
23:46 <@benryves> Gotta love those 555s. :D
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23:49 < Speler> Hi peoples
23:50 <@benryves> Hi Speler
23:50 < Speler> How you doin?
23:51 <@benryves> Not bad, thanks, you?
23:51 < Speler> Pretty good
23:52 < Ox40> hayyyy
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23:55 <@benryves> Hrm, don't you love code that works but shouldn't?
23:56 < Ox40> is there a syntax hilighter for PHP in Visual Studio?
23:56 <@benryves> VS.PHP
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23:58 < Ox40> benryves: awesome
23:58 <@benryves> (Never used it myself, I just use Programmer's Notepad).
23:59 < Ox40> its $100! :P
23:59 < Dam\__> Oh, joy.  <del>COCKS</del> COX/Suddenlink are about to start throttling Internet.
23:59 <@benryves> Ox40: Most plugins for Visual Studio are commercial products AFAIK
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