--- Log opened Tue Jan 27 00:00:11 2009
00:08 < Milyardo> :o
00:09 < zeropod> not repairable
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00:21 < Dam\__> Wow, the Arch devs don't wait for nothing.  KDE 4.2 isn't even supposed to be released until tomorrow, and we already have it in our main repos.
00:22 <+prime_> uh oh
00:22 < Nikky> uhoh, KDE
00:22 < Nikky> Even Linus doesn't use that shit.
00:22 < Dam\__> Not that I'm using it (I'm not :P).
00:28 < Dam\__> I bet tomorrow, the forums will be full of users bitching about something not working/broken in 4.2.  Users will bitch when something doesn't get upgraded "fast enough," then will bitch when it finally gets upgraded.
00:29 <+prime_> arch linux just makes me think of mcdonalds whenever i hear it
00:33 < jd19> haha... i might dualboot my laptop with arch linux here soon...
00:34 < Nikky> Ububtu is superior in all ways
00:34  * Dam\__ suppresses laugh.
00:34 <+kirsk> nikky is right
00:36 < Dam\__> Ubuntu has a habit of making things depend on a ton of crap, then when you try to remove the parts you won't ever use or need, it wants to eradicate half your system.
00:37 <@_Auron_> lol
00:37 <@chronomex> yeah, that's the joy of automatic package management
00:37 <@_Auron_> sounds like windows
00:37 <+prime_> how so?
00:37 <+kirsk> why remove tiny little bits that you dont use anyway?
00:38 <@chronomex> you can save 200k!
00:40 < Dam\__> Think Evolution or PulseAudio.  Last time I tried to remove those, it wanted to take everything else with it.
00:41 < Dam\__> And Evolution is pretty friggin' huge.
00:41 < jd19> yeah i dont really like doing ubuntu since it installs a bunch of crap i dont need off the cd
00:41 < jd19> i just want to start out with "nothing" and put the things i want on there
00:41 < Nikky> Pulseaudio is far superior
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00:42 < Dam\__> As soon as I work out the volume issues, I'm sticking with OSS4.
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00:42 < Nikky> wb zeropod 
00:43 < Nikky> TI is cutting 12% of their workforce.
00:43 < zeropod> ty
00:51 <@chronomex> shit, there goes my chance of getting a job there
00:52 <+prime_> you probably never had a shot with a degree in telephones
00:53 <@chronomex> ummmm what?
00:53 <+prime_> you are majoring in telephones arent you?
00:53 <+prime_> or was it telephone history :)
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00:55 < Nikky> I love phones.
00:55 <@chronomex> prime_: no
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01:06 <@_Auron_> lolwut
01:06 < ReDeEm> tuwlol?
01:07 < Nikky> lol _Auron_ 
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01:28 < Nikky> Hi millinao and mtgrss111 :)
01:28 <+mtgrss111> yo!
01:32 < millinao> hi
01:33 <+mtgrss111> my bike got stolen :/
01:33 < millinao> D:
01:33 <+mtgrss111> stupid houston ghetto
01:34 <+mtgrss111> and it's starting to freeze up again. damn.
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01:36 < ports_> http://www.tv.com/how-i-met-your-mother/the-best-burger-in-new-york/episode/1228039/summary.html  - search for chinese.. so funny@
01:39 <+mtgrss111> i want to submit an entry for the cemetech programming contest, but i can't think of anything useful that hasn't been done before o_O
01:40 <+prime_> irc server
01:40 <+prime_> on calc
01:40 <@chronomex> might want an ip stack first
01:40 <+mtgrss111> calc84maniac hasn't taught me THAT much yet o_O
01:40 < ports_> and then you need to create a usb to ethernet interface + driver
01:41 <+prime_> then maybe a bluetooth module so i can use my handsfree
01:41 <@chronomex> ^
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01:41 < ports_> (Discussing what to eat)
01:41 < ports_> Ted: Chinese?
01:41 < ports_> Barney: I don't like Chinese.
01:41 < ports_> Ted: Indian?
01:41 < ports_> Barney: I just said, I don't like Chinese.
01:41 < ports_> Ted: Indian isn't Chinese.
01:41 < ports_> Barney: Weird meats, funny music, side of rice. Why are we splitting hairs?
01:41 < ports_> Ted: Mexican?
01:41 < ports_> Barney: I just said, I don't like Chinese
01:41 < millinao> thats not funny
01:41 <+prime_> its all chinese
01:41 < ports_> really? cuz im Indian and i found that funny
01:41 <+prime_> indians dont eat beef
01:42 < ports_> prime_, that's not true
01:42 < millinao> i'm not any of those and i don't think that's funny at all
01:42 <+mtgrss111> that racial humor doesnt amuse me o_O
01:42 < ports_> prime_, most hindu's don't eat meat for religious reasons.
01:42 < ports_> -i
01:43 <+prime_> i should have said "many"
01:43 < ports_> it'd be more correct, but still a faulty statement
01:43 < ports_> theres 6 major religions in India. i think 4 of them allow you to eat meat
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01:44 <+prime_> ah, good
01:44 < ports_> now major is relative.
01:44 < ports_> yes blacks in america.. are a "major" ethnic group.. but there's still not nearly as many black people as white people
01:44 <@_Auron_> there's this spanish song I hear every rare once and awhile that has a sequence of "jump up and keep dancing!" over and over again, but it sounds really badass
01:44 <@_Auron_> and I can't find it
01:45 < ports_> _Auron_, do you like chinese?
01:45 <@_Auron_> o.O
01:45 <@_Auron_> chinese what?
01:45 <@_Auron_> men? food? customs?
01:45 < Nikky> cheese
01:45 < ports_> you missed my quote from How I Met your Mother
01:45 < ports_> http://www.tv.com/how-i-met-your-mother/the-best-burger-in-new-york/episode/1228039/summary.html
01:45 <@_Auron_> why would I watch a movie like that
01:45 <@_Auron_> or show
01:45 <@_Auron_> whatever
01:45 < ports_> because i think bob saget does the voiceover
01:46 <@_Auron_> wat
01:46 < ports_> see. if you werent such a book cover judger
01:47 <@_Auron_> wtf
01:47 <@_Auron_> I don't judge books
01:47 <@_Auron_> but I don't have interest in sitcoms
01:47 <@_Auron_> unless they're animated
01:47 < ports_> liar :)
01:47 < ports_> brb
01:47 < ports_> front desk needs help
01:47 <@_Auron_> I don't even watch tv
01:48 <@_Auron_> I watch either serious stuff or animated stuff
01:48 < millinao> who here wants to play left 4 dead
01:48 <+prime_> fuck left 4 dead
01:48 <@_Auron_> that's what I should play
01:48 <@_Auron_> mirror's edge
01:48 <+prime_> if you play left 4 dead you are a fag
01:48 <@_Auron_> was playing world at war earlier
01:48 < millinao> stfu prime
01:49 <+prime_> seriously
01:49 <@_Auron_> and lol at more drama with martin's bf
01:49 <@_Auron_> bbiab
01:49 <+prime_> i cant see how, after they get over the hype of "OMG ZOMBIES", that anyone can like that game
01:49 < millinao> because it's fun to play
01:49 <@_Auron_> prime_: most people play versus
01:50 <@_Auron_> which is competitive
01:50 <+prime_> i played the demo
01:50 <@_Auron_> if you have competitive gameplay, there's a sporty thrill out of it
01:50 <@_Auron_> demo did not have versus
01:50 <+prime_> i felt like i accomplished everything i could do in that game after one time through
01:50 <@_Auron_> versus is rather different
01:51 <@_Auron_> and your mindset is like "I experience the full extent of galaga after the first level"
01:51 <@_Auron_> which is pretty stupid
01:51 <@_Auron_> on your part
01:52 <+mtgrss111> ^^^ WIN
01:52 < Nikky> Zombies?
01:52 < millinao> ZOMBIES
01:53 < Nikky> ZOMBINES
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01:53 <+mtgrss111> like CONCUBINES?
01:54 < ports_> male or female
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01:54 < Nikky> Did you?
01:54 < Merthsoft> yes
01:55 < ports_> no hold on
01:55 < ports_> pause
01:55 < ports_> time out
01:55 < ports_> are the concubines male or femle?
01:55 < ports_> female
01:57 <+kirsk> ports_ you continue to confuse me
01:57 <+mtgrss111> they can be either
01:57 <+kirsk> one day you seem pretty lame
01:58 <+mtgrss111> actually, thats incorrect. i was wrong.
01:58 < ports_> kirsk, but?
01:58 <+mtgrss111> Wikipedia: "Concubinage is the state of a woman or youth in an ongoing, quasi-matrimonial relationship with a man of higher social status. Typically, the man has an official wife and, in addition, one or more concubines. Concubines have limited rights of support from the man, and their offspring are publicly acknowledged as the man's children, albeit of lower status than children born by the official wife or wives; these legal righ
01:58 <+mtgrss111> ts distinguish a concubine from a mistress.
01:58 <+mtgrss111> "
01:58 <+kirsk> but then the next day you quote How I Met Your Mothe
01:59 < ports_> kirsk, where are you goign with this? because i dont know why youre confused. im a badass. it's a well known fact. i just get bored and like to harass people sometimes.
01:59 <+kirsk> aha
01:59 < ports_> like andy earlier
01:59 <+kirsk> but see the way you keep entertained with that is what makes you seem less awesome sometimes
01:59 <+kirsk> unlike Barney who is awesome all the time
02:00 < Merthsoft> Nikky: it's super cool
02:00 < ports_> kirsk, sorry man.. you wont like this.. dont take it personally.
02:00 < ports_> kirsk, the goal is to entertain me. so i do things that entertain me, not others. sometimes they coincide.
02:01 <+kirsk> i know
02:01 <+kirsk> still makes your awesome fluctuate
02:01 < ports_> one of my best friends.. one of the first times i met her.. i offered her $5 to jump up and down for me in a wife beater.. (she has large breastststs)... i almost got stabbed that day.
02:02 < ports_> 3 years later.. we're still awesome friends..
02:02 <+mtgrss111> o_O
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02:02 <+kirsk> oh dont get me wrong i dont disagree with harassing people
02:02 < ports_> that week i did that.. she hated me.. it took her a bit to realize i was somewhat joking.
02:02 <+mtgrss111> were you"?
02:03 < ports_> mtgrss111, i said SOMEWHAT :P
02:03 <+mtgrss111> i bet you wouldnt have taken it back if she agreed :P
02:03 <+kirsk> it was a joke but he wouldve paid the $5 if she did it
02:03 < ports_> mtgrss111, i wouldve made it $50
02:03 < ports_> it would have been worth it.
02:04 <+mtgrss111> my girlfriends wierd. she'd do it just to watch me squirm XD
02:04 <+kirsk> squirming is not awesome
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02:04 <+mtgrss111> i know. but she found it funny for some reason.
02:04 < ports_> kirsk, im a pretty big asshole.. and i punish people for doing stupid things.. but then again, 2 weeks ago when my car battery died.. i got my flash light stuck to my tongue while working on my car when it was like -15F.
02:04 <+kirsk> true true
02:05 < ports_> kirsk, i called a bunch of my friends and told them about it so they could laugh at me. because i ripped the flash light off my tongue and made my tongue bleed too.
02:05  * Dam\__ single "Ha."
02:05 < Merthsoft> neither of you is badass
02:05 <+kirsk> its not about being badass
02:05 <+kirsk> its about being awesome
02:05 < Merthsoft> or awesome
02:05 <+kirsk> modern life doesnt give many opportunities to be badass
02:05 <+kirsk> but awesome can be achieved
02:05 <+mtgrss111> I grant that I'm not badass
02:05 <+mtgrss111> or awesome
02:06 <+kirsk> actually ports_ maybe im confusing you with prime_ sometimes
02:06 < ports_> kirsk, so i do hold myself to the same standard.. and if i fuck up, i let people make fun of me too.
02:06 < ports_> eww a $38 stripper.
02:06 < ports_> two and a half men is hilarious
02:06 <+kirsk> yessss
02:06 <+mtgrss111> lol, you're watching that episode now too? :D
02:06 < ports_> i hate his brother.
02:06 < Merthsoft> indeed
02:06  * Dam\__ does not try to be awesome or bad-ass.  Based on his observations, it usually results in a quicker death.
02:06 <+kirsk> not dieing is awesome
02:06 < ports_> mtgrss111, yeah its monday night. i watch TBBT, HIMYM, and TAHM, then i go out to dinner
02:06 < Merthsoft> Dam\__: your calc will be sent,,,, soon
02:06 <+kirsk> was that the gas money episode?
02:07 <+kirsk> tbbt?
02:07 < ports_> kirsk, no he borrows $38 from alan to go out drinking and to the strip club
02:07 < ports_> the big bang theory
02:07 <+kirsk> hmm
02:07 <+mtgrss111> i watched House, and then this happened to be on another channel.
02:07 < Merthsoft> hilarious
02:08 < ports_> haha hooker money
02:08 < ports_> Dam\__, ive done many stupid/awesome things..
02:08 < ports_> Dam\__, its a wonder im alive.
02:08 <+kirsk> tahm and himym are awesome
02:08 <+mtgrss111> i really only watch House, and NCIS. but i enjoy other shows too.
02:08 < ports_> mtgrss111, NCIS is tomorrow night
02:09 <+prime_> CAL MATCH!
02:09 <+mtgrss111> no dur
02:09 < Dam\__> Last stupid thing I did that almost resulted in death was trying to ride down the stair railing.
02:09 < ports_> mtgrss111, i wasnt being an ass.. i started watching NCIS a few weeks ago and i like it
02:09 <+kirsk> tbbt looks geeky
02:09 <+mtgrss111> lol
02:09 < Dam\__> Someone caught me just before I flew headfirst over the rail.
02:09 <+mtgrss111> NCIS is great :)
02:09 < ports_> Dam\__, hah. i almost got shot by a cop in the parking garage after my friend got caught peeing in it.
02:10 < Dam\__> Yipe.
02:10 < ports_> yeah they decided it was a good idea to walk away...
02:10 < ports_> the cop wasnt amused
02:11 < ports_> i miss white castle
02:11 < ports_> they dont have any in central illinois that i can find
02:11 < Dam\__> (Apparently, anytime you have a conversation window open, and someone passes by -- usually another student -- it is assumed that the person/people on the other end are hoes.)
02:12 < ports_> Dam\__, thats stupid and true in college
02:12 <+kirsk> they dont have any what?
02:12 < Merthsoft> ports_: my girlfriend's school has a white castle cart along the street
02:13 < ports_> Merthsoft, where does she go to school
02:13 < ports_> kirsk, youre from america right?
02:13 <+kirsk> no im from pot country NL
02:13 < Merthsoft> ports_: ohio university
02:14 < ports_> kirsk, oh. i dont know if they have White Castle abroad
02:14 <+kirsk> GIS is not helping me
02:14 < ports_> its this cheap mini burger place.. they sell 50cent burgers..
02:14 <+kirsk> ah cool
02:14 <+kirsk> no we dont have that
02:14 < ports_> famous for giving people diarhea after eating 
02:14 < ports_> apparently they were the first company to start selling the hamburger years ago
02:15 < ports_> Merthsoft, where are you
02:15 <+mtgrss111> NCIS, disembowlment in a pentagram. ooh! looks like a sweet episode!
02:15 < Merthsoft> liek what school?
02:15 < ports_> Merthsoft, physically where are you right now.. what city
02:15 < ports_> mtgrss111, i know it looks creepy
02:15 < Merthsoft> granville ohio
02:15 <+mtgrss111> the talking teddy bear?
02:15 <+mtgrss111> lol
02:16 < ports_> Merthsoft, the only place ive been to recently in Ohio is Yellow Springs.. Antioch College
02:16 <+mtgrss111> I'm an NCIS junkie. i watched it with my parents even back when i couldnt understand it that well.
02:16 < Merthsoft> dunno where that is
02:16 <+kirsk> how old are you mtgrss111?
02:16 < Merthsoft> i do know that i've got a whitecastle 15 minutes away
02:16 < ports_> Merthsoft, south of you.. its off of Route 70
02:16 < Dam\__> *Guessing:*  He's seventeen.
02:17 < Merthsoft> ah, ok
02:17 < ports_> the closest white castle from me is like 85 miles..
02:17 < ports_> mtgrss111, lol youre young
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02:17 <+mtgrss111> Joe Young is the name. age 17.64 yrs.
02:17 < ports_> i grew up watching Law & Order
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02:18 < ports_> mtgrss111, yes ive got 5 years on you
02:18 <+kirsk> then what did you mean with even back when you couldnt understand the show?
02:18 <+mtgrss111> I didn't understand the plot very well.
02:19 <+kirsk> theres a plot?
02:19 <+mtgrss111> of course there's a plot.
02:19 < ports_> lol
02:19 <+kirsk> bunch of people solve crimes for a living
02:20 < Dam\__> Like CSI?
02:20 < ports_> im one of the oldest people in here arent i?
02:20 <+mtgrss111> damn good stuff, aint it?
02:20 < Dam\__> ports_:  No, GLK is.
02:20 < ports_> Dam\__, "one of"
02:20 < Merthsoft> you're only 22
02:20 < ports_> merth 23.. and it doesnt take much to be older than a bunch of high schoolers
02:20 < ports_> me, e-j, glk, and BW
02:20 <+kirsk> ex seal guy, movie+ladies guy, nerdy guy, self empowered girl, and happy go lucky goth chick
02:20 < Merthsoft> yeah, but you're really not that old
02:20 < ports_> paddy.. dan_eng. theyre older than me
02:21 <+kirsk> what plot is there?
02:21 < Dam\__> I think GLK's been around for a couple of hundred years and has been reincarnated in the form of a cyborg.  :P
02:21 < Merthsoft> i'm 20 (21 in may), Nikky's 20 (21 in may). Andy_J is... 22 I think? Maybe 23, aardvarc is old. _Auron_ is my age i thin k
02:21 <@Andy_J> 23
02:21 <+kirsk> <- 21
02:21 < ports_> auron is like 17
02:21 < Merthsoft> _Auron_: how old are you?
02:22  * Dam\__ guesses eighteen.
02:22 <+kirsk> ports_ at what age did you start being awesome?
02:22 < Merthsoft> chronomex is older than me
02:22 < ports_> kirsk, college
02:23 <+kirsk> hmm then youre college is cooler than mine
02:23 < ports_> i was kinda dorky in high school..
02:23 < jd19> you still are dorky
02:23 < ports_> not that im not dorky now..
02:23 <+mtgrss111> i dunno, a lot of navy-related murders, some terrorist factions. some main characters die. actually plot kind of depends on the season
02:23 < ports_> jd19, hey jeff..
02:23 < jd19> hi
02:23 < ports_> FUCK OFF
02:24 < ports_> :P
02:24 < ports_> jd19, i get paid a lot of money to be dorky now
02:24 < jd19> :D
02:24 < jd19> i get paid not much money to be dorky
02:24 < ports_> but you do get dual 22's
02:25 <+kirsk> series like csi only have a little more plot than the simpsons
02:25 < ports_> jd19, how did you come up with jd19 anyway?
02:25 < jd19> first/middle + baseball #
02:25 < ports_> kirsk, CSI is entertaining... not so much Miami
02:25 < ports_> jd19, ah
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02:25 <+kirsk> i liked csi and csi miami, new york is just lame
02:25 < ports_> Miami lacks in plot
02:25 <+kirsk> miami is pretty funny
02:26 < ports_> they just show off hot girls and fancy lit up computers
02:26 <+kirsk> and funny oneliners
02:26 < ports_> mind you.. that is entertainment...  but not plot
02:26 < Speler> You'd think it'd be easier to find a drummer interested in grindcore
02:26 <+kirsk> none of the csi have much plot
02:26 < ports_> kirsk, Vegas does
02:26 <+kirsk> i mena compared to series like lost heroes or supernatural, those have actual plot
02:26 < ports_> i dont like Laurence Fishburne though
02:26 <@_Auron_> I like dexter more
02:26 <+mtgrss111> i can identify with NCIS though. in like how consistent it is.
02:26 <@_Auron_> Therefore I think I'll watch more of dexter now
02:26 < ports_> _Auron_, dexter is awesome
02:26 < jd19> i dont watch tv
02:26 < Speler> I've never seen dexter
02:26 < ports_> _Auron_, theres a new dexter series
02:26 <@_Auron_> as I haven't watched all of season 3 yet
02:27 <@_Auron_> I know, I have seeason 3 :P
02:27 < ports_> _Auron_, i saw it on sling.com .. Dexter - The Dark Avenger
02:27 <+kirsk> i dont watch tv either, just download series and movies hah
02:27 <@_Auron_> ?
02:27 < ports_> _Auron_, no nutbar
02:27 < Speler> What day is house on?
02:27 <@_Auron_> is it still based off books?
02:27 <+kirsk> its quite refreshing to rarely see commercials
02:27 <+mtgrss111> today. you missed it.
02:27 < jd19> i watch sports...
02:27 < ports_> _Auron_, i dont know.. its animated. i havent gotten to watch it yet..
02:27 < Speler> What day is house on? Lol...
02:27 <@_Auron_> animated O.o
02:28 < ports_> _Auron_, yeah.. i dont know if its good.. its on Sling.com though
02:28 <+mtgrss111> Speler: today, you missed it o_O
02:28 < smart_> _Auron_ sucks!
02:29 < smart_> Lost the "Dark", eh?
02:29 <@_Auron_> why the hell do you care?
02:29 < smart_> I <3 you
02:29 <+kirsk> only in name right now
02:29 < ports_> _Auron_, theres a new dexter book this year too... Dexter By Design
02:29 <+kirsk> ports_ have you read the brocode?
02:30 < ports_> i wrote my own bro code.
02:30 <@_Auron_> ....
02:31 < ports_> kirsk, "Get your bro laid at all costs."
02:31 < ports_> That is the prime directive
02:31 <@_Auron_> umm
02:31 <@_Auron_> that could lead down a very gay path
02:31 <@_Auron_> XD
02:32 <+kirsk> yeah i would motion differently
02:32 < ports_> _Auron_, the bro can say no
02:32 < jd19> ports_: you should be focusing on yourself
02:32 <@_Auron_> you said at all costs
02:32 <@_Auron_> that means anything
02:32 < ports_> _Auron_, what are you bitching about? a gay encounter would work for you
02:32 < Nikky> whores
02:33 < Speler> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXX0sxUHQiU
02:33 <@_Auron_> just saying
02:33 <@_Auron_> you worded that poorly
02:33 < ports_> _Auron_, so am i :P
02:33 < Nikky> I'm gay.
02:33 < ports_> that doesnt surprise anyone
02:33 <@_Auron_> my roommate hit a truck in front of him today because the truck spontaneously slammed on their brakes in the middle of an intersection
02:33 < Speler> It surprises me
02:34 < jd19> always maintain a safe following distance...right?
02:34 <@_Auron_> they were stopped at a red light, it turned green, they went forward
02:34 <@_Auron_> and his car slid
02:35 <@_Auron_> but it was during the day when it was like 45F and raining
02:35 <@_Auron_> so it wasn't ice
02:35 < ports_> kirsk, you got the pdf of the bro code?
02:35 < ports_> _Auron_, hold on
02:35 < ports_> you werent complaining about the temperature right?
02:35 <+kirsk> well i have a pdf of bro code material
02:35 < ports_> because jd19 and i havent seen above 32F in a month
02:36 <+kirsk> it appears the main material is audio
02:36 < ports_> kirsk, i saw that on demonoid.. theres a 22mb pdf
02:36 < jd19> especially me
02:36 <@_Auron_> complaining?
02:36 <@_Auron_> lol why would I complain
02:36 <@_Auron_> I love the cold
02:36 < ports_> _Auron_, dude. it was BELOW 0 here for a week.
02:36 <+kirsk> i have a 10mb pdf + 210mb audio files
02:36 <@_Auron_> anyhow minor damage to the hood and his headlight got obliterated
02:37 <@_Auron_> ports_: can I move there? :p
02:37 < ports_> last week. it was -30F... and it got up to like 30F the next day instlouis.. and i was like holy shit.. a 60F swing
02:37 <@_Auron_> I camped outside when it was 25F heh
02:37 < ports_> facebook is down?
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02:38 <@_Auron_> other than the ice age (lol) I don't think this area of texas has ever experienced negative farenheit
02:38 < ports_> auron.. i want to go see "hes just not that into you"
02:39 <@_Auron_> ?
02:39 < ports_> its a movie
02:39 < ports_> based on the book
02:39 <@_Auron_> okay
02:39 < ports_> by that comedian whos name i cant remember
02:40 <@_Auron_> it sounds like a bad comedy + chick flick
02:40 < ports_> it is
02:40 < ports_> itll be funny for me though
02:42 < ports_> and itll give me some tips for ditching girls
02:42 <@_Auron_> rofl
02:42 < ports_> i have a hard time breaking up with girls and making them go away
02:42 <+kirsk> wait
02:42 <@_Auron_> apparently my roommate's mother got a bill from exterminators that never came here
02:42 <+kirsk> ditch chicks?
02:42 < ports_> jd19, knows this
02:42 < ports_> kirsk, yes. get rid of ex girlfriends in a clean and efficient manner
02:43 <+kirsk> ah ok
02:43 <+kirsk> ok i got the full version now thanks
02:43  * Dam\__ has been lurking around Slashdot forever; has never said anything.  Can't quite match the level of expertise in their writing.
02:43 < ports_> kirsk, lol ok
02:43 < ports_> kirsk, i can send you that pdf if it checks out
02:44 <@_Auron_> Dam\__: reading a book about martial arts does not teach you how to fight in person
02:44 <@_Auron_> you'll never improve unless you experience it
02:45 < jd19> heh
02:45 < jd19> whats so great about slashdot
02:45 <+kirsk> ports_ it downloaded in like a minute and looks good & complete (even has a page for the side of the )
02:45 <+kirsk> *of the cover
02:45 < ports_> kirsk, oh cool. my internet at the hotel sucks.. im getting like 40k/sec
02:46 < Dam\__> Ew.
02:46 <@_Auron_> welcome to shared internet
02:46 <@_Auron_> hmm dexter or world at war
02:47 < ports_> _Auron_, nah.. even late at night.. the speed test is lame.. 115k/sec
02:47 < ports_> _Auron_, check out dexter dark avenger..
02:47 < ports_> tell me if its any good
02:47 <@_Auron_> it's out?
02:47 < ports_> you have the reading comprehension of a 5 year old.
02:47 < ports_> i told you at least 2 times its on sling.com
02:47 <@_Auron_> lol I'm not really paying attention to the channel if you hadn't noticed
02:48 <@_Auron_> and.. you mean the dark defender?
02:48 < ports_> _Auron_, PUT THE PENIS DOWN!
02:48 < ports_> _Auron_, yes
02:48 < Dam\__> I remember seeing some 4chan-spawned tool somewhere, designed to intentionally eat up as much bandwidth as possible in an attempt to get some people to disconnect, so that one could eventually gain more bandwidth from those that got frustrated and disconnected.
02:48 <@_Auron_> no, was eating and talking to my friend on AIM, and reading an article
02:48 < ports_> that reminds me
02:48 < ports_> im going to get something to eat
02:49 <@_Auron_> k
02:49 <@_Auron_> starting up episode 2
02:49 <@_Auron_> er 1*
02:49 <@_Auron_> they're short episodes heh
02:49 < jd19> talking about penises reminded you that you needed to eat?
02:49 <@_Auron_> wtf, the video 'expired'
02:52 < Dam\__> Well, I maybe sex makes a person a little hongry...
02:52 < ports_> kirsk, the pdf is decent but i would prefer OCR'd text
02:52 <+kirsk> true
02:52 < Dam\__> s:I::
02:52 < ports_> Dam\__, shutup tyrese
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03:00 <+kirsk> what's a rebound in paper basketball?
03:01 <+mtgrss111> holy hell, what an opening to CSI Miami o_O
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03:02 <+mtgrss111> Horatio....dead?
03:03 <+mtgrss111> that's gotta fake or something.
03:03 <+mtgrss111> he's really not dead. horatio can't die o_O
03:04 < jd19> simulation
03:04  * ix want's to spoil it
03:04 <+ix> where did the ' come from? huh.
03:05 <+mtgrss111> ix: go ahead an spoil it. I dont think im gonna finish watching it anyway.
03:05 <+ix> mtgrss111: it's all smoke and mirrors.
03:05 <+ix> :-)
03:06 <+mtgrss111> smoke and mirrors O_o
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03:07 <@_Auron_> omfg
03:07 <@_Auron_> I can't find this song :(
03:08 < jd19> ?
03:08 <+mtgrss111> what song?
03:08 <@_Auron_> some song that sounds really good that I've heard on the radio a few times
03:08 <+mtgrss111> any of the lines?
03:08 <+mtgrss111> any info at all?
03:08 <@_Auron_> it's on the spanish station but most of the song is english
03:08 <@_Auron_> yes
03:08 <+ix> use shazam the next time it's on
03:09 <@_Auron_> "jump up keep on dancing', just jump up keep on dancin!" over and over again
03:09 <+mtgrss111> Now give me a beat
03:09 <+mtgrss111> Dance sweat move your body
03:09 <+mtgrss111> Jump around start to party
03:09 <+mtgrss111> Enjoy yourself you are not are stereo type
03:09 <+mtgrss111> Express yourself then you will feel alright
03:09 <+mtgrss111> All night cause it's party time
03:09 <+mtgrss111> That's why I'm here kicking a rhyme
03:09 <+mtgrss111> Get up get down get into the break
03:10 <+mtgrss111> that's "Keep On Dancing" by Dj Bobo
03:10 <@_Auron_> no
03:10 < jd19> http://www.metrolyrics.com/keep-on-dancing-lyrics-dj-bobo.html
03:10 < jd19> oh
03:10 <@_Auron_> google already told me that like 500 times
03:10 <@_Auron_> it's not the same song
03:10 < jd19> lol
03:10 <@_Auron_> at all
03:11 <@_Auron_> has some spanish in it, some other english lyrics, but the coolest part is what I stated above and the only part I can remember
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03:11 < jd19> call and ask?
03:11 <@_Auron_> call who?
03:11 <+kirsk> what's evertyone's plans for desperation day?
03:11 < jd19> the radio station
03:12 <@_Auron_> I don't even remember what station it was
03:12 < jd19> hmm
03:13 <+mtgrss111> _Auron_: the end of the song repeats "Just keep on dancing just keep on dancing" several times.
03:13 <+mtgrss111> _Auron
03:13 <@_Auron_> no
03:13 <+mtgrss111> _Auron_: check out this link. is it what you're looking for?
03:13 <+mtgrss111> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ox85S7uBOM
03:13 <@_Auron_> I already watched it
03:13 <@_Auron_> it's not an old song, it's a new one
03:14 <@_Auron_> hold on, lemme see if I can make an mp3 of the tone when they're saying that
03:14 <+mtgrss111> no reason why it can't be googled
03:14 <@_Auron_> wait
03:14 <+mtgrss111> by lyrics alone.
03:14 <@_Auron_> jump up and.. let's get crazy? maybe I remembered the last word wrong
03:16 <@_Auron_> and no, not the lil john song
03:16 <@_Auron_> ugh ><
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03:16 <@_Auron_> wait!
03:16 <@_Auron_> maybe it is O_o
03:16 <+mtgrss111> so, am i right or what?
03:16 <@_Auron_> right about what?
03:16 <+mtgrss111> about the song.
03:17 <@_Auron_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eOniR2h450 <-- I think this is it
03:17 <@_Auron_> fuck yeah
03:21 <@_Auron_> it's actually called Krazy
03:21 <@_Auron_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXHXSqkq_tg
03:30 < Spengo> I... need a VGA cable o_o
03:30 < Spengo> all I have are DVI
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03:35 < Nikky> Spengo: I had that problem a few days ago.
03:35 < Spengo> heheh
03:36 < Dam\__> (C++) I need to load a file into an string array, but can't think of how I would do that without knowing how many lines are in the file, so I will know how many elements to make the array.
03:38 < Merthsoft> so, count how many lines are in it first
03:38 < Dam\__> No way for me to do that without reading the file twice?
03:38 < Tari>  no :)
03:38 < Dam\__> Aw, that sucks.
03:38 < Tari> just count how many \n in the file
03:40 < millinao> I have a vga cable
03:41 < millinao> dam you could use a vector instead
03:41 < Nikky> wow, so cemetechtards are all impressed because one of them has an xbox 360, desktop computer, a 22" monitor, and a 19" monitor
03:41 < Nikky> and they're like zomgdroolz
03:41 < millinao> what a lee hacker
03:42 < Dam\__> At first, I thought you were mad at me for my ignorance.  Then I realized my nick.  :P
03:42 < millinao> haha
03:42 < millinao> but if you used a vector you would only need to read the file once
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03:44  * Dam\__ goes off to read the fucking manual on vectors.
03:45 <@chronomex> vectors come with a manual?
03:45 <@chronomex> damn, I could have used that in calculus
03:47 < Dam\__> Everything comes with a manual if you know where and how to search for it.
03:48 < Milyardo> vectors are just stacks with a diva complex
03:49 <@chronomex> Dam\__: for certain definitions of 'come with', yes
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03:50 < i_c-Y> Dam\__: you might not want to use a vector.
03:50 < i_c-Y> Dam\__: consider linked structures instead
03:51 < Milyardo> Dynamicaly Allocated arrays ftw
03:51 < Milyardo> or those
03:52 < sir_lewk> oh ya?
03:52  * sir_lewk goes off to watch Fargo
03:53 < Dam\__> Milyardo:  The ones you do that thing with "new"?
03:55 < Dam\__> "array = new int[SIZE]" or something like that.
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04:00 < Milyardo> yes
04:01 < Milyardo> I have examples if you need them
04:01 < Milyardo> http://acm.umflint.edu/~zpowers/workspace/c++/savitch/
04:02 < sir_lewk> http://www.swimmingholes.org/
04:02 < sir_lewk> see!
04:02 < sir_lewk> this is what happens when we let rednecks on the internet
04:02 < sir_lewk> :P
04:04 < Dam\__> That website looks like it was made in the nineties.
04:04 < sir_lewk> it looks like a nice little niche though
04:04 < Milyardo> Its not really a website
04:04 < Milyardo> http://acm.umflint.edu/~zpowers/workspace/c++/savitch/chap5/prog2/prog5-2.cpp
04:04 < Milyardo> there's a specific example for you
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04:07 <@efneTI92> [Dauron] We called it Sin.
04:08 < Milyardo> hrmmm
04:08 < Milyardo> Looking at that is example, its really not the best
04:10 < Dam\__> Will that works with "string"-types, by the way?
04:11 < Milyardo> Yes
04:11 < Milyardo> Although it takes extra consideration
04:12 < Milyardo> because the String is really another array
04:13 < Milyardo> errr maybe not actualy, if you are using STl Strings and not char[] strings
04:14 < i_c-Y> Dam\__: with what intention are you loading a file ?
04:15 < Dam\__> Load a dictionary list, find all the words in it whose letters are in A-B-C order, then dump it to an output file, sorted and numbered.
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04:16 < Dam\__> I got the whole load and find words thing working, but I didn't think about sorting.
04:16 < i_c-Y> theres a sort in STL.
04:16 < i_c-Y> http://www.sgi.com/tech/stl/sort.html
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04:20 < Milyardo> STL sort is probably best to use
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04:25 < ports_> shit
04:26 < ports_> i forgot my bed shorts at home
04:27 < ports_> nope got em.. thank god
04:28 < i_c-Y> Dam\__: figure it out yet?
04:28  * Dam\__ is still reading.
04:28 < Dam\__> (We did not get a chance to learn about STL last semester.)
04:28 < i_c-Y> http://www.cplusplus.com/reference/algorithm/sort.html is probably a better example
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04:32 < i_c-Y> Dam\__: also make sure to consider the case
04:32 < i_c-Y> of the strings
04:32 < i_c-Y> ie. 'A' < 'a'
04:32 < Dam\__> I wrote a function to capitalize and compare them for that part.
04:33 < i_c-Y> theres lexicographical_compare in STL algorithm for that 
04:36 <@Andy_J> strnicmp? >_>
04:36 <@Andy_J> ...
04:36 <@Andy_J> why the FUCK is it strncasecmp
04:37 < i_c-Y> its not standard C or C++.
04:37 < Merthsoft> anyone on windows with cygwin and has all the curses stuff installed
04:37 < i_c-Y> lexicographical_compare is standard STL c++.
04:38 < i_c-Y> i do.
04:38 < Merthsoft> sweet, wanna help me out
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04:38 < Merthsoft> http://merthsoft.calcg.org/shaunIM.exe is a little IM client I made
04:39 < Merthsoft> i've tried to make a window build, and that's it
04:39 < Merthsoft> run it with shaunIM.exe v200.calcg.org 3490 <nickname>
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04:40 < i_c-Y> appcrashes
04:40 < Dam\__> Does it have to be run from the command line, or something?
04:40 < Merthsoft> does it say why
04:40 < Merthsoft> Dam\__: yes
04:40 < i_c-Y> getaddrinfo
04:41 < Merthsoft> fuck, that's right
04:41 < i_c-Y> Fault Module Name:	cygwin1.dll!getaddrinfo
04:41 < Merthsoft> i had to go and get some special files to get networking stuff to work
04:41 < Merthsoft> fuuuuuck
04:41 < Merthsoft> cygwin's netdb.h file isn't complete
04:41 < Dam\__> Bah, got to install the Cygwin DLLs.
04:41 < Merthsoft> Dam\__: don't bother
04:42 < Merthsoft> http://merthsoft.calcg.org/send for a linux compile
04:42 <@Andy_J> .equalsIgnoreCase()
04:42 <@Andy_J> fix'd
04:42 < Merthsoft> using ubuntu
04:43 < Barrett> Merthsoft: what is listen doing?
04:43 < Merthsoft> being a server for my chat program
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04:43 < Dam\__> Sixty-four bit distro.  :P
04:43 < i_c-Y> Andy_J: lexicographical_compare returns a boolean - suitable for sorting
04:43 < Barrett> Merthsoft: you should make it use interrupts instead of polling
04:44 < Merthsoft> come again?
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04:44 < Barrett> it's using 100% of one of the cores
04:44 < Barrett> not very efficient :)(
04:44 < Barrett> :)
04:44 < Merthsoft> heh
04:45 < Merthsoft> i dunno anything about interrupts. i'm just doing select()
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04:49 <@Andy_J> don't you need 3 states for sorting?
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04:50 <@Andy_J> For a stable sort, at least.
04:50 <@Andy_J> Merthsoft: you need to make it sleep once in a while
04:50 < Dam\__> "I've been following the KDE website changes for the last couple of weeks on an hourly basis." (Caliburn)  Jeez.  Fan chicks.
04:50 < Merthsoft> but then it won't be getting things
04:50 <@Andy_J> yes it will
04:51 <@Andy_J> you check for data
04:51 <@Andy_J> if there isn't any, you sleep for 50ms or so
04:51 <@Andy_J> and repeat
04:51 <@Andy_J> if there's data you go ahead and deal with it
04:51 < Merthsoft> does sleep take ms or s?
04:51 <@Andy_J> I'm sure you can find an ms sleep if you look for one
04:51 <@Andy_J> usleep takes microseconds.
04:52 <@Andy_J> (microseconds < milliseconds, of course)
04:52 < Merthsoft> so usleep(50000)
04:53 <@Andy_J> if that's a valid useconds_t value
04:53 <@Andy_J> rtfmp :)
04:53 < Merthsoft> rtfstfu
04:54 < Merthsoft> Barrett: what's it using now?
04:54 <@Andy_J> however I'd recommend nanosleep as that's a POSIX standard
04:54 <@Andy_J> whereas usleep isn't
04:54 < Merthsoft> i see
04:54 < Barrett> Merthsoft: if it is indeed running, almost nothing
04:54  * Dam\__ notes that and goes to change some of his programs.
04:54 < Merthsoft> it's running
04:54 < Barrett> k, I see it
04:54 < Barrett> 0.00
04:54 < Barrett> er 0.0
04:54 <@Andy_J> Or, if you're multithreaded, your threading library may have a "thread sleep" function
04:55 < Merthsoft> Barrett: sam still?
04:55 < i_c-Y> make sure to dereference all null pointers, Merthsoft 
04:55 < i_c-Y> it'll make your program work better.
04:55 < Barrett> yep
04:55 < Barrett> just went up for a second, but still 0
04:55 <@Andy_J> Merthsoft: you can run top yourself, you know
04:56 < Merthsoft> or i can tell Barrett to do it
04:59 < Merthsoft> so sleeping for 50ms really makes that big of a difference, or is it likely i have  leak somewhere?
04:59 < Barrett> yeah that would make a huge difference
04:59 < Barrett> does the program still work?
04:59 < Merthsoft> yup
04:59 < Barrett> then there you go
05:00 < Merthsoft> but it coule by a memory leak, couldn't it
05:00 < Barrett> the reason it isn't using much processor?
05:01 < Barrett> run valgrind on it
05:01 < Merthsoft> no, the reason why when it was running for so long it took 100%
05:01 < Merthsoft> how do i do that?
05:01 < Barrett> that's 'cause it was constantly computing stuff...
05:01 < Merthsoft> hmm, ok
05:03 < Barrett> it was, right?
05:03 < Merthsoft> well
05:03 < Barrett> your program never waited for interrupts from another program, right?
05:03 < Merthsoft> it was just checking to see if there were any incomming connection on any of the sockets
05:03 < Barrett> and it does that in a while loop?
05:03 < Merthsoft> yup
05:04 < Barrett> yeah, that's why
05:04 < Merthsoft> ok
05:04 <@Andy_J> yeah 100% without sleeping isn't a memory leak
05:04 <@Andy_J> you were never letting it take a break
05:07 < Merthsoft> good to know
05:07 < Merthsoft> should the client do that too?
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05:11 < sir_lewk> valgrind is the shit
05:13 < Barrett> Merthsoft: the client should not use polling
05:13 < Barrett> chat clients that do polling suck
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05:14 < Barrett> but yes... they shouldn't constantly be checking
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05:15 < Merthsoft> Barrett: I only know how to do so much
05:16 <+prime_> java constantly checks for overflows
05:16 <+prime_> due to this is runs about two times slower
05:16 < Merthsoft> i'm doing what my prof told me to and using select()
05:16 <+prime_> (that and other things)
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05:17 < Barrett> also, Merthsoft: use emacs to code
05:17 < Barrett> (not nano)
05:17 < Merthsoft> fuck emacs
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05:18 < Merthsoft> how do i get to those little menus up there?
05:18 < sir_lewk> emacs is shit, vim ftw
05:18  * sir_lewk sleeps
05:18 < Merthsoft> vim totally sucks
05:19 < Merthsoft> i'm liking emacs
05:19 < Barrett> Merthsoft: emacs is full of keyboard shortcuts... it sucks to learn them, but it's worth it once you get going
05:19 < sir_lewk> emacs cripples you.  gives you carpal tunnel
05:19 < sir_lewk> too many meta-keys
05:19 < Merthsoft> save open and quit's all i really need right now
05:19 < sir_lewk> only masocists and lunitics use emacs.  like Barrett and RMS
05:19 < Barrett> ctrl+x+s to save
05:20 < sir_lewk> :w is far more logical
05:20 < Barrett> ctrl+x+s to close
05:20 < Barrett> sorry
05:20 < Barrett> not s
05:20 < Barrett> c
05:20 < sir_lewk> lol
05:20 <@chronomex> sir_lewk: and me
05:20 < Barrett> ctrl+x+c to close :)
05:20 < Merthsoft> -
05:20 < Merthsoft> C-x c is undefined
05:20 <@chronomex> C-x C-c
05:20 < sir_lewk> :wq == write-quit
05:20 <@chronomex> sir_lewk: :q!
05:20 < sir_lewk> quit without saving
05:20 < Barrett> keep holding control...
05:21 < sir_lewk> if you don't have changes you can just :q
05:22 < sir_lewk> :e opens files (with tab completion)
05:22 < Merthsoft> it's very pretty
05:22 < sir_lewk> C-w s is split.  C-w v is vertical split
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05:22 < sir_lewk> those are the only control keys you *need* in vim
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05:24 < Merthsoft> also, Barrett: Stop spying on me
05:24 < sir_lewk> I don't understand how people can use modeless editors
05:24 < sir_lewk> but meh
05:28 < i_c-Y> cause you're a moron. not all tasks are quicker or easier in a modal editor. also, the stretch to hit ESC on some keyboards (with people who dont want to remap their keys) is longer and more annoying than your non-modal editor ways of going about it.
05:29 < Dam\__1> Wow.  Small Internet.
05:30 < i_c-Y> stupid freenode keeps disconnecting.
05:30 < Dam\__1> It's amazing that you can just be randomly clicking/Googling something, and find a post by someone you've only met/heard of in one place.
05:32 < i_c-Y> sometimes i hate IRC because i get the abbreviations people are using
05:32 < Nikky> woah woah
05:32 < Nikky> Barrett uses emacs?
05:32 < Dam\__1> i_c-Y:  You are not alone there.
05:33 < Dam\__1> Not just IRC, though, but the entire Internet.
05:33 < i_c-Y> nap time
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06:06 <@efneTI92> [snowman] http://jrush.dyndns.org/isaac/
06:13  * Dam\__ is still laughing.  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwbeddZ9aKI&feature=dir)
06:13 < Dam\__> So fucking true...
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06:20 < bense> what causes a dead line on a voyage 200 screen?
06:21 < Nikky> probably a display issue
06:21 < bense> is it like a loose connection?
06:21 < bense> or would the lcd need to be replaced?
06:21 < Nikky> probably the latter
06:21 < glk> I had a piece of a dead line in a TI-89T
06:21 < Nikky> I mean, you chould check the cable, but I really doubt that's the issue
06:22 < Nikky> just live with it *shrugs*
06:22 <+prime_> warranty
06:22 < bense> and lemme guess, there's no way to replace just the screen right?
06:22 < glk> It was in an non-important place
06:22 < Nikky> bense: It's hell hard
06:22 < Nikky> For the 83/89s, it's basically impossible
06:23 < bense> http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/15778843/aview/voyage200.jpg
06:23 < bense> i got this on ebay
06:24 < bense> i haven't gotten it yet though, i'm just worried that it's screwed up
06:24 < bense> the seller added that picture at a later time ):
06:24 < Nikky> I don't see the line
06:24 <+prime_> it looks like there are 2
06:24 < Nikky> oh, yeah
06:24 < Nikky> now I see it
06:25 <@chronomex> bense: screwed up?
06:26 < Nikky> the vertical one on the left side of the screen, and the horizoncial one near the bottom?
06:26 <@chronomex> oh, geez
06:26 < Nikky> Actually, I see a bunch
06:26 < Nikky> there are 2-3 verticals
06:26 <@chronomex> lines all over, yeah
06:27 < bense> yeah, i messaged the buyer, he hasn't responded
06:27 < bense> i can return it, which looks like i'll have to do that :|
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06:29 <@efneTI92> [snowman] http://jrush.dyndns.org/isaac/
06:29 < bense> i've never used a ti-92 or voyage 200
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06:29 < bense> but it seems like it will be muchhhhh easier than finding the keys on the ti-89
06:29 < bense> the letters
06:30 < bense> better than the 160 i wasted on the ti-nspire cas :|
06:31 < glk> I love my TI-89T   http://grahamkendall.net/ in MATH has MUCH TI-89 data and math
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06:33 < bense> the letters are too hard to read on my ti-89t
06:33 < bense> i like my regular 89 more than my 89t for htat reason
06:33 < glk> The label is dim
06:34 < bense> i wish i could get the black 89t
06:34 < bense> http://www.datamath.org/Graphing/TI-89T-2006.htm
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06:43 <@_Auron_> lol, I think my roommate's mother is freaking out about the weather tonight and is worrying about the plants she has
06:44 <@_Auron_> I keep hearing the front door open and close
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06:44 < glk> Tulsa is having an ice storm
06:44 <@_Auron_> heh :X
06:44 <@_Auron_> I know
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06:48 < Dam\__> It sucks being in the middle, as far as religion goes.  Can't say, "Yes," and can't say, "No," and not enough time to make an absolute decision.
06:51 <@_Auron_> middle of what?
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06:53 < Dam\__> Existence of a god.
06:54 -!- snowman [~snowman@rdbk-15592.mtaonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
06:55 < Dam\__> (Even if there is, it seems the human race has been pretty much left for dead.)
06:55 <@_Auron_> haha, left 4 dead. ;P
07:02  * Dam\__ notices what he's gotten himself into, and takes it to a different channel.
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07:07 <@efneTI92> [snowman] http://jrush.dyndns.org/isaac/
07:09 <@_Auron_> http://i.gizmodo.com/5139231/boeing-laser-avenger-shoots-down-incoming-enemy-for-the-first-time
07:09 <@_Auron_> badass
07:10 < Nikky> whooo
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10:52 < BrandonW> Whoo! Just like fuckin' Saigon! Eh, slick?
10:53 < BrandonW> I was in junior high...dickhead.
10:53 < BrandonW> Random Die Hard moment.
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12:32 <@efneTI92> [sir_lewk_] http://www.cs.drexel.edu/~jlg95  I have much DATA in VELOCIRAPTORS AND PHILOSOPH
12:33 < zeropod> +Y
12:33 <@benryves> 'lo zeropod :D
12:33 < zeropod> heya benryves 
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12:37 <@benryves> Looks like EFNet has calmed down over here, at any rate. :|
12:38 < zeropod> cool :)
12:47 < zeropod> hmm... i need some sort of photo uploading app for ipod touch
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12:47 <@efneTI92> [sir_lewk] http://www.cs.drexel.edu/~jlg95  I have much DATA in VELOCIRAPTORS AND PHILOSOPH
12:49 <@benryves> What do you mean by that, zeropod? You take a photo and it's uploaded automatically to flickr &c?
12:50 < zeropod> nah, i have a photo on my ipod touch, and an app thay I can pick to... well yeah, what you said except not automatically, and screencaps included
12:51 <@benryves> Oh. Email it to a web service?
12:51 < zeropod> ehhh
12:51 < zeropod> yeah, i guess
12:52 < zeropod> right now I use wordpress to add them to my blog, but I wish I could manage all my pics and such
12:52 <@benryves> Not sure how it works, otherwise. :|
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12:54 <@efneTI92> [sir_lewk_] http://www.cs.drexel.edu/~jlg95  I have much DATA in VELOCIRAPTORS AND PHILOSOPH
12:54 < zeropod> well, consider that the iPod touch and iPhone are more like netbooks than pmp's and cellphones
12:55 < zeropod> so a photobucket management app isn't impossible lol
12:56 <@benryves> Wouldn't be impossible on any mobile phone these days. :\
12:56 <+kirsk> no ir/bluetooth/ftp?
12:56 < zeropod> kirsk: how would any of those 3 help me?
12:56 < zeropod> except ftp, that would
12:57 <+kirsk> transfer the pics to a capable device?
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12:57 < zeropod> the point is to be independant of a pc
12:57 <+kirsk> ah
12:57 < zeropod> that's why it has wifi
12:58 <@benryves> I assume that it also has a web browser.
12:58 < zeropod> well yeah
12:58 <+kirsk> well cant you upload it through a browser?
12:58 < zeropod> that is another software layer
12:58 < zeropod> and mobile safari isn't exactly the best browser
12:59 <+kirsk> oh hehe ok
12:59 <@benryves> Install Opera? :)
13:00 <+kirsk> does it have java?
13:00 <@benryves> kirsk: Pfft. Next you'll be expecting it to have Flash.
13:00 < zeropod> no java
13:00 < zeropod> and benryves how would I install opera?
13:00 < zeropod> it almost has flash :p
13:00 <@benryves> zeropod: Downloading it and installing it?
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13:01 <@benryves> "Almost" as in "they're releasing an update with Flash"?
13:01 < zeropod> adobe has it working on software, not actual hardware
13:02 < zeropod> and opera doesn't have an iphone os port
13:02 <@benryves> Oh. :(
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13:02 <@efneTI92> [Storm\_] Yes rivereye, it is time to go fishing.
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13:03 < zeropod> benryves: but there is hope
13:03 <@benryves> zeropod: Flash seemed an odd omission. Java I could sort of understand if they provided an alternative for apps (as it's not used much online any more).
13:03 <@benryves> (Not to mention even crappy Nokia S40s have Flash). :P
13:03 < zeropod> flash would, and does, kill the battery
13:03 < zeropod> esp flash online
13:04 <@benryves> Which is why any serious phone user carries a spare batter- oh.
13:04 < zeropod> apple made a good point at macworld
13:05 < zeropod> non user replacable batteries can be smaller 
13:05 < zeropod> thus the device is smaller
13:05 <+kirsk> lol
13:05 <@benryves> Hahaha
13:06 < zeropod> which in turn, I'd rather a smaller device with less moving parts, than extra battery that would cost an asston
13:06 < zeropod> that a good 3/4 of the userbase wouldn't touch
13:06 <@benryves> At least, not until the battery dies and they need to fit a replacement.
13:07 < zeropod> i know NOBODY irl that carries an extra battery
13:07 < zeropod> as they have no way to charge them
13:07 < zeropod> they just have a car charger and home charger
13:07 <@benryves> That's the *point* of carrying an extra battery.
13:07 < zeropod> no
13:07 <@benryves> When one runs down, you put the second one in.
13:08 < zeropod> no way to charge the extra
13:08 < Storm\_> 'lo benryves 
13:08 <@benryves> You charge it before you go on your trip. :P
13:08 <@benryves> Heya Storm\_ :)
13:08 < zeropod> your 'trip'?
13:08 < zeropod> to work?
13:08 < zeropod> or dinner?
13:08 <@benryves> zeropod: Business trips, holidays, whatever.
13:08 < Merthsoft> morning
13:08 < zeropod> benryves: how often does an iPhone user go on a buisness trip?
13:09 <@benryves> zeropod: Never, evidently, which is why serious users buy Blackberries instead.
13:09 < zeropod> 'serious' users?
13:09 < Storm\_> benryves I got my parallel link working,though it doesn't like my 86 :)
13:09 < zeropod> or 'business' users you mean
13:10 <@benryves> Storm\_: Cool. :D For some reason I can't install large apps using my parallel link. :(
13:10 <@benryves> zeropod: One and the same, really.
13:10 < Storm\_> I <3 my HTC touch, way better than an iPhone
13:10 < Merthsoft> woo palm treo
13:11 < Storm\_> Yeah i was going to try messing with the delay to get it working
13:11 < zeropod> iPhone is targeted to american young adult, ( 20 - 30 ) and that crowd doesn't carry extra batteries, they carry car chargers
13:11 < Storm\_> meh I'd rather have an extra battery also
13:12 < zeropod> and it does make for more parts to break with a removable battery
13:12 <+kirsk> i'd rather not have an iPhone period.: )
13:12 <+kirsk> unless it is to sell
13:12 < zeropod> that's what went out on my 6133's every time, batt case and pins for batt
13:12 < Storm\_> agreed kirsk 
13:13 <+kirsk> my htc 3600 is sturdy as hell
13:13 <+kirsk> and interestingly smaller than an iphone if im not mistaking
13:13 < zeropod> i have seen iphone run over by semi trucks and working :)
13:14 < zeropod> kirsk: h x w x d x g?
13:14 <+kirsk> im not sure but i held them next to eachother, let me check
13:15 < zeropod> gsmarena ought to have them
13:15 <+kirsk> Weight: 150g
13:15 <+kirsk> Dimensions: (length, width, height) 108 x 58 x 18 mm
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13:17 < zeropod> weight 133g
13:17 < zeropod> dimensions (lwh) 115 x 62.1 x 12.3
13:17 < zeropod> mm
13:17 <+kirsk> hueg :P
13:17 < zeropod> wider and taller, but THINNER
13:18 < zeropod> your device is a BRICK
13:18 <@benryves> Squatter is better.
13:19 < zeropod> i'd rather thinner when it's this big anyway
13:19 <+kirsk> i actually think this thing is too big
13:19 <+kirsk> but not too thick
13:20 < zeropod> if I am going to own, basically a screen, i want it to be thin
13:20 <@benryves> 123g, 96.5 x 46.5 x 16.4 mm :D
13:20 <+kirsk> they really could make something with just this size touchscreen and no shitty phoen camera in it
13:20 <@benryves> I wish they'd stop cranking up the pixel count on these cameras. Lower resolution = better images with these tiny cameras.
13:20 < zeropod> kirsk: have you SEEN inside the iPhone =/ not a lot of leeway
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13:21 <+kirsk> benryves: that too, and imrpove lighting instead
13:21 <+kirsk> no i havent seen inside any iphones
13:22 < zeropod> kirsk: there is no leeway, everything is crammed in as small as it can be
13:22 <+kirsk> im sure
13:22 <+kirsk> http://www.pdashop.nl/images/product/image.php?id=41850&dimensionid=17&shopid=2
13:22 < zeropod> hell, even things like the home button is just a spring that groudnds to the dock connector
13:22 <@benryves> kirsk: Done any work with the .NET CF?
13:22 < zeropod> kirsk: can't click that link
13:23 <+kirsk> if you ask me they could cut off the bottom with the buttons and the top with failcamera
13:23 < zeropod> t3h downfall of t3h iphone os rears it's ugly head
13:23 <+kirsk> from a 'there's no need for that to be there' point of view
13:23 < zeropod> no they can't
13:23 < zeropod> that's where they circutboards are!
13:23 < zeropod> the middle is just screen and battery
13:24 <+kirsk> actually the battery goes to the bottom on this one
13:24 <@benryves> kirsk: Hm, http://europe.nokia.com/A4423143 - the camera/speaker on mine is tiny, seems to make better use of the space.
13:24 <+kirsk> oh and sorry benryves no i have never touched anything .net
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13:26 < zeropod> i still think a removable battery is a loss I can take ( esp for a device I don't own, my phone has a removable battery )
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13:26 < zeropod> sir_lewk: fix your tubes
13:26 <+kirsk> well my only real gripe with this thing is that the battery is dieing because its getting old
13:26 <+kirsk> wouldnt want to have to buy a new phone though i most likely will as soon as i can
13:26 <@benryves> Heh, the 18-month battery on a 12-month warranty thing?
13:27 <+kirsk> i really dont know, i just know all batteries ive ever seen in portable devices start to die after about a year
13:27 <+kirsk> like, last really really short even on a fullcharge
13:27 <+kirsk> laptops, phones, etc
13:27 < zeropod> my psp battery has hit 2+ yrs and no issues
13:28 <+kirsk> still the same battery life as when it was brand new?
13:28 < zeropod> my iBook battery is fine
13:28 < zeropod> yup
13:28 <+kirsk> strange
13:28 <+kirsk> ive seen it happen for sure in all my friend's laptops, mine, and all my phones ever
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13:28 <@benryves> My Zen Xtra only has a four hour battery life or so now. :(
13:29 <@benryves> Which is why I have two batteries for it, of course. :D
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13:29 < zeropod> irc crash fail
13:29 <+kirsk> my laptop started with 3.5 hours, eventually it became 1 hour tops and then it just died completely and wouldnt charge any more, my previous phone went from going the whole week with music listening to going an hour or two with music
13:29 <+kirsk> this phone went from 1 day heavy use to well idk an hour tops
13:30 < zeropod> my iBook pulls 4h or so, and psp still does 7h
13:30 <+kirsk> hmm maybe its the kind of battery
13:30 <@benryves> "My Zen Xtra only has a four hour battery life or so now. Which is why I have two batteries for it, of course."
13:30 <+kirsk> like nicd vs liwhatever
13:30 <@benryves> Li-Ion batteries are problematic (and have limited shelf lives).
13:30 <+kirsk> that might be the problem
13:31 <@benryves> Except I think everything uses Li-ion these days. Some of my old phone batteries were Ni-Mh.
13:32 <+kirsk> http://www.gpsforless.co.uk/product_details.php?id=5353    maybe i should get that one
13:32 <@benryves> Wikipedia - "At a 100% charge level, a typical Li-ion laptop battery that is full most of the time at 25 °C or 77 °F will irreversibly lose approximately 20% capacity per year. However, a battery in a poorly ventilated laptop may be subject to a prolonged exposure to much higher temperatures, which will significantly shorten its life."
13:32 <+kirsk> aha
13:33 <+kirsk> http://shop.eten.hu/mugen-power-p3600-trinity-dopod-d810-orange-spvm700-vodafone-compact-extended-battery-3600mah-p-154.html
13:33 < Storm\_> my laptops 2 cell last about 10-15Min :P
13:33 <+kirsk> holy smokes, 3600mah 96$
13:33 < Storm\_> 2cell battery*
13:33 <+mtgrss111> I don't often push my laptop's battery, but it can last for about 2.5 hours on conservative power. much longer if the wifi is turned off.
13:33 <@benryves> Storm\_: Heh, I have an old Toshiba that can't boot Windows on a full charge.
13:33 < Storm\_> but then agian its a crappy laptop anyway
13:34 <+kirsk> well eventually i just left it out of my laptop and used a power socket
13:34 <+kirsk> now the screen appears to be dead so i cant use it any more anyway : (
13:34 <@benryves> Aww :( Can you get a replacement panel on eBay? They're not too tricky to fit.
13:34 <+mtgrss111> i hate dead screens.
13:35 <+kirsk> well its not compeltely dead but it has half adozen stds for sure. everything is green and has stripes through it and the font is wierd and it wont go higher than 640*480
13:35 < Storm\_> meh my battery is usefull for when mmy mom trips the circut breaker or I'm takeing my laptop form one room to another
13:35 <+mtgrss111> even worse are dead pixels. a dead screen just prompts me to trash the device, but dead pixels dont, and therefore irk me for however long i use the device.
13:36 <@benryves> mtgrss111: Heh, yeah, I have a dead red subpixel. :(
13:36 <+kirsk> the crazy thing is it got that way just after the 4 year warrentee ended (like within a month)
13:36 <+kirsk> i dont know how i could find a replacement panel. mind you the keyboard would also need replacing
13:37 <+kirsk> actually wouldnt mind fixing it and giving it to my sister
13:37 < Storm\_> I was debating gettinga new battery for my laptop but that battery would cost more than what I paid for the laptop.
13:38 < Storm\_> well cya, its time for me to get to school
13:38 <+kirsk> cya
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13:38 <@benryves> kirsk: Do a search for the laptop model name, you'll probably find spares. You may end up with a replacement lid (which should be really easy to fix) or a replacement LCD panel (which is a bit more fiddly).
13:38 <+kirsk> its a pretty small company that made it
13:39 <@benryves> If you unscrew the lid you could find out the manufacturer and part number of the panel.
13:39 <+kirsk> hmm
13:40 <+kirsk> how much do those things cost usually?
13:40 <@benryves> Varies, I'm seeing prices between £10-£30, even one old one at £80.
13:40 <+kirsk> hmm wait i dont even know if replacing the panel would actually fix it
13:41 <+kirsk> it could be a cable or the vid card itself
13:41 <+kirsk> or all of the above :p
13:41 <@benryves> Does the laptop have a TV output?
13:41 <+kirsk> vga and svideo
13:42 <@benryves> You could use that to check if the video card was at least outputting something sensible.
13:42 <+kirsk> true
13:42 <+kirsk> and if you get a new panel does it come with the cable attached?
13:43 <@benryves> Should do, you should be able to unplug the current one and plug the new one in.
13:43 <+kirsk> ok then it doesnt matter if the cable is the problem
13:43 <+kirsk> ill keep this in mind for when i have money :P
13:43 <@benryves> Either way I recommend looking up disassembly guides first so you have a rough idea of how difficult a job it would be.
13:43 <+kirsk> yeah fair enough
13:44 <+kirsk> laptops seem to be held together with a fair amount of magic
13:44 <@benryves> Replacing the optical drive on a Satellite 1800 (for example) requires that you dismantle most of the case and remove the keyboard.
13:44 <+kirsk> well i know ill have to remove the keyboard, ive tried to open it up before
13:44 <+kirsk> and ill have to replace that too anyway
13:45 <@benryves> Heh, may as well plug in a normal keyboard and external monitor and use it as a desktop.
13:46 <+kirsk> hehe yeah ive done that for a while before i bought this desktop
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14:04 < zeropod> man, I need to find a nat cit bank
14:04 < zeropod> and make like, $40 
14:05 < zeropod> so I can buy logmein and remotetap
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14:30 <@efneTI92> [leofox] All we do in hell is play DDR!
14:53 < sir_lewk> wooooooo snooooow
14:53 < sir_lewk> sup #tcpa
14:53 <+kirsk> wooooooooooooooowooooooooooooooooooooo
14:54 <@benryves> Heya sir_lewk
14:54 <+kirsk> lo sir_lewk lo leofox
14:56 < sir_lewk> E-J: aaah
14:56 < sir_lewk> I remeber where I saw studded tyres
14:57 < sir_lewk> they use them in alaska a bunch
14:57  * sir_lewk is a few weeks slow... ;)
14:57 <@benryves> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7851989.stm :D
14:59 < sir_lewk> nice
15:00 <+kirsk> nice!
15:00 <@Andy_J> too much snow
15:00 <@Andy_J> we still have snow from two weeks ago
15:00 <@Andy_J> we don't need any more kthxbye
15:01 < zeropod> Andy_J: i'm looking out to 3ft here
15:01 <@Andy_J> nice.
15:02 <@Andy_J> I don't think we got much more around here overnight, looks like it went down your way
15:03 < zeropod> Andy_J: I'm in PA
15:03 <@Andy_J> point still stands
15:04 < sir_lewk> zeropod: I'm sorry
15:04 < sir_lewk> nobody *deserves* to be in PA
15:04 < zeropod> sir_lewk: i like it here
15:04 < sir_lewk> actually, I hear they are thinking about making all of PA a penal colony
15:05 < zeropod> ...
15:05 < sir_lewk> zeropod: I grew up in PA ;P
15:05 < zeropod> diaf
15:05 < sir_lewk> :)
15:05 <@benryves> sir_lewk: Kurt Russell stars in: Escape from PA?
15:05 < sir_lewk> hahahahaha
15:05 < sir_lewk> YES!
15:07 < sir_lewk> Escape from LA was a great movie
15:07 < sir_lewk> good action
15:08 <@benryves> As a tongue-in-cheek swipe at America, yes. :)
15:08 < sir_lewk> true too :)
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15:08 < i_c-Y> AMERICA! FUCK YEAH!
15:08 < i_c-Y> :)
15:09 < sir_lewk> oh wait
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15:09 < sir_lewk> Escape from LA was a SEQUEL!?!?!
15:09 <@benryves> "The United States is a non-smoking nation! No smoking, no drugs, no alcohol, no women - unless you're married - no foul language, no red meat!" "Land of the free."
15:09 < i_c-Y> !t Welcome to #TCPA - The United States of America is the greatest country ever. 
15:09 -!- efneTI86 changed the topic of #tcpa to: Welcome to #TCPA - The United States of America is the greatest country ever. 
15:09 < sir_lewk> daaaamn!
15:09 <@benryves> sir_lewk: Yes. The story is pretty much *identical* to Escape from New York.
15:09 < sir_lewk> excellent
15:09 < sir_lewk> I shall seek out Escape from New York then
15:10 <@benryves> It turns the film into a parody of itself, which ties in nicely to the attack on Hollywood.
15:11 <@benryves> Looks like John Carpenter has three films (one in production, one pre-production, one announced) at the moment. Hmm.
15:11 < sir_lewk> Escape from America, Escape from Earth, and Escape form the UNIVERSE :O
15:12 < sir_lewk> *from even
15:12 <@Andy_J> you forgot solar system and galazy
15:12 <@Andy_J> s/z/x/
15:12 < sir_lewk> bah, he skips those
15:12 < sir_lewk> there's no escape from CA after all
15:13 <@benryves> Escape from New York is arguably a better film, but it's not over-the-top action like its sequel.
15:14 < sir_lewk> oh well, I think I'll rent it at the library
15:14 < sir_lewk> I had no idea escape from la was a sequel :)
15:15 < zeropod> i lost the game
15:15 <@benryves> For sheer fun  I think my favourite Carpenter film is Big Trouble in Little China, though. I have yet to see They Live.
15:16 < sir_lewk> zeropod: damn you
15:16 <@Andy_J> I have the no fail cheat on, so I can't lose the game.
15:17 < sir_lewk> I've been watching Danny Boyle stuff recently
15:17 < sir_lewk> just saw "Shallow Grave", highly suggested :)
15:17 <@benryves> I guess that means you saw Slumdog Millionaire?
15:17 < sir_lewk> no yet D:
15:17 < zeropod> slumdog is good
15:18 <@benryves> sir_lewk: Bah. :P
15:18 < sir_lewk> yeah, I really need too :O
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15:21 < Ox40Work> AWESOME topic!
15:21 < Ox40Work> True that.
15:21 <@benryves> sir_lewk: Well, I haven't seen Shallow Grave yet, so...
15:21 <@Andy_J> n ou
15:22 < Ox40Work>  n
15:22 < Ox40Work> Verb -> Adverb
15:22 < Ox40Work> Noun -> Adjective?!
15:22 < Ox40Work> (Noun -> AdNoun darnit...)
15:23 <@Andy_J> that isn't the etymology of adverb :p
15:23 <+kirsk> !t Welcome to #TCPA - The United States of America is the awesomest country ever. 
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15:23 <+kirsk> hi ox
15:23 <@Andy_J> well, it kind of is
15:23 < Ox40Work> hi kirsk!
15:23 <@Andy_J> but not strictly
15:23 < Ox40Work> Andy_J: heh, just being conversational
15:26 < leofox> the usa has a new president have you heard
15:26 <@Andy_J> no wai
15:26 < leofox> yes wai
15:26 < leofox> i heard he's half-black
15:26 < leofox> but that cant be true
15:27 < zeropod> his mom is white
15:27 < leofox> something i kind of noticed
15:27 <+kirsk> he's also awesome
15:28 < leofox> a lot of the succesful 'black people' they keep going on about are actually not black
15:28 < leofox> tiger woods is half-thai
15:28 < leofox> lewis hamilton, half white
15:28 < leofox> barack obama, half white
15:28 <@benryves> Who gives a damn, he could be bright green with blue spots for all I cared.
15:29 < leofox> that would be weird
15:29 < Ox40Work> that would be awesome
15:29 <@benryves> You've not seen many British politicians, have you?
15:29 < leofox> well i know tony blair
15:29 < leofox> and margaret thatcher
15:29 < Ox40Work> I seriously dont care that he is 1/2 black. what I DO care is that he is literally retarded.
15:30 < Ox40Work> Which is nice that we could see past and elect him. :)
15:30 < leofox> your politcians all look so
15:30 < Ox40Work> The retarded community should be happy!
15:30 < leofox> inbred
15:30 <@Andy_J> and bush wasn't?
15:30 < Ox40Work> Andy_J: nahhh
15:30 <@benryves> Obama is "retarded"?
15:30 < Ox40Work> he didn't do anything for his last 3 years of office :P
15:30 < Ox40Work> benryves: true that.
15:30 <@benryves> leofox: What about Boris Johnson (the guy who took the flag at the olympics)?
15:30 < leofox> srsly americans elect a mentally healthy policitian for a change
15:30 <@Andy_J> And what evidence do you present for your case?
15:30 < leofox> oh the mayor of london
15:30 < Ox40Work> Mentally healthy?!
15:31 < Ox40Work> he is a DEMOCRAT!
15:31 < Ox40Work> er, sorry, forgot the N, DEMONCRAT
15:31 < leofox> holy shit ben he looks odd
15:31 < Ox40Work> :D
15:31 <@Andy_J> I could say the same thing about Replubicans.
15:31  * Andy_J is apparently dyslexic today
15:31 <@benryves> leofox: Heh, yep. :D
15:31 < leofox> heh
15:31 < leofox> you guys vote for your mayors?
15:31 < leofox> thats what it said on wiki
15:32 < leofox> over here they are appointed by the queen
15:32 < Ox40Work> First thing B. Hussein Obama does as president is... spend 2x what Bush did on the inauguration.
15:32 < Ox40Work> he is going to be GREAT
15:32 <@Andy_J> One, why the fuck are you calling him that
15:32 < Ox40Work> Its his name, no?
15:32 <@Andy_J> Two, I doubt very much he has direct control over the proceedings.
15:33 < Ox40Work> But, he could have said no.
15:33 < Ox40Work> And didnt.
15:33 < Ox40Work> next.
15:33 < sir_lewk> my dad calls him that
15:33 <@Andy_J> That's like saying G. Walker Bush. Nobody did that.
15:33 < sir_lewk> and "Oh-bam-ah
15:33 < Ox40Work> Andy_J: but, I wouldnt be offended...
15:33 <@Andy_J> Just because his middle name is Hussein doesn't mean shit.
15:33 < Ox40Work> I didnt say it did
15:33 < Ox40Work> i just called him by his name
15:33 <@Andy_J> Then why must you point it out every time?
15:33 < leofox> it's like saying Saddam Hussein Osama
15:34 < Ox40Work> I didnt point it out.
15:34 < Ox40Work> I just referred to him by his name
15:34 < Ox40Work> whats your problem with that?
15:34 < sir_lewk> I don't think there is such a person leofox ;P
15:34 <@benryves> Ox40Work: With deliberate emphasis on "Hussein", because everyone knows that foreign-sounding people are evil.
15:34 < leofox> i thought bill clinton was OK
15:34 < leofox> why did he leave?
15:34 < Ox40Work> benryves: no, I didnt emphasise it at all...
15:35 <@Andy_J> Yes, you did, by spelling it out.
15:35 < Ox40Work> Hussein....
15:35 <+kirsk> bill clinton left because people are sensationalists
15:36 < leofox> oh yeah I remembered
15:36 < leofox> he totally scored that jew girl
15:36 < Ox40Work> So, Hussein is trying to get republican votes on his stimulus package....
15:36 < Ox40Work> time to GO!
15:36 < Ox40Work> work time
15:36 < zeropod> someone ban hom
15:36 < zeropod> *him
15:36 < leofox> een vliegtuig
15:36 < leofox> drie bikinis
15:36 < leofox> en een energie koek
15:37 <+kirsk> ?
15:37 < leofox> i just felt like 
15:37 < leofox> typing that
15:37 <+kirsk> wat is een energie koek?
15:37 < leofox> zeg maar een liga
15:37 < leofox> ofzo
15:37 <+kirsk> ohja
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15:40 < leofox> oh
15:41 < leofox> did i kill the conversation with that or something
15:41 <@Andy_J> Yes.
15:41 < leofox> quick someone say something trollish
15:41 <@Andy_J> Windows sucks.
15:41 <+kirsk> apple sucks
15:41 <@Andy_J> Linux sucks.
15:41 <+kirsk> uhm
15:41 <+kirsk> computers suck
15:41 < zeropod> i suck
15:41 < leofox> calculators suck
15:41 <@Andy_J> ^ kirsk 
15:42 <@benryves> Andy_J: Not enough dollar signs to be convincing.
15:42 <@Andy_J> True.
15:42 < leofox> british people suck
15:42 <@Andy_J> I fail at being a troll.
15:43 < leofox> hey guys how do i downloaded games
15:43 < leofox> to my mirageos
15:45 <@Andy_J> Magic.
15:47 < leofox> i use version 1.0 is that the newest versino lol
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15:58 < jd19> mirageos...there's something i haven't used in a long time
15:58 <@benryves> What do you use, jd19?
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16:04 < jd19> i havent played with my calculator since college
16:05 < jd19> and it has mirageos on it
16:05 < jd19> so i guess it hasn't been that long, but still heh
16:05 <@benryves> Oh, I thought you meant you used one of the alternative shells. :)
16:05 < jd19> i'm getting old :(
16:05 <@benryves> Bah. :(
16:06 <+kirsk> Alt shells!
16:06 <+kirsk> oh, wait..
16:06 < jd19> i forgot my headphones
16:06 < jd19> now i have nothing to listen to while i sit here at work
16:06 < leofox> ohmygod alternative
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16:07 < jd19> superbowl sunday this weekend...anyone excited?
16:08 <@benryves> What?
16:09 < jd19> lol the american football championship
16:09 < jd19> i guess you are not from the US
16:09 <@benryves> Put me down for a "no", then.
16:10 <@Andy_J> screw the super bowl
16:10 <@Andy_J> I'm more interested in the commercials
16:11 < zeropod> i am rooting for pitt, but eh
16:11 <@Andy_J> fuck pitt >_>
16:11 <@Andy_J> only wanted them to beat baltimore because fuck the ravens even more
16:11 < zeropod> fuck you
16:11 <@Andy_J> no u
16:11 < jd19> i'll probably just watch
16:11 < jd19> and not care
16:12 < zeropod> is it a girl fucking me Andy_J?
16:12 <@Andy_J> was it a girl that was going to fuck me?
16:12 < zeropod> yes
16:12 <@Andy_J> then yes
16:12 <@Andy_J> I guess
16:12 < zeropod> ok
16:13 < jd19> now i'm confused
16:13 < zeropod> jd19?
16:14 < jd19> nevermind
16:14 < jd19> i need a nap
16:14 <@Andy_J> I need to shift my sleep cycle so I awaken at 0600 by Monday :(
16:14 < sir_lewk> http://www.blankshirts.com/
16:15 < zeropod> i wake up at 5 :)
16:15 < sir_lewk> I have found the answer to my clothing needs
16:15 < jd19> i wake up at 7
16:15 < jd19> well...i try to wake up at 7
16:15 <@Andy_J> I've been sleeping in lately
16:15 <@Andy_J> I like waking up at 10
16:16 <@Andy_J> but when I have to drive 1:15 to work starting monday, meh.
16:16 < jd19> considering i need to be to work by 8 and i have to get a 4 month old ready to go and drive 10 minutes both ways to drop him off for babysitting....an hour isn't much time
16:20 <@Andy_J> I need to call the car dealer and set up an appointment for an oil change -_-
16:20 < zeropod> you fail
16:21 <@Andy_J> ?
16:21 < zeropod> i could do that easy 
16:21 < zeropod> anyone needs to be able to
16:21 <@Andy_J> That isn't the point.
16:21 <@Andy_J> The point is it's free and it needs some other shit checked to keep the warranty up anyway.
16:22 < zeropod> ah
16:28 < smart_> Oh no
16:28 < smart_> zeropod is one of those "you're not a man if you can't change your own oil" guys!
16:29 <+kirsk> no, he has an iphone
16:29 < smart_> Oh, he's on of _those_
16:29 < smart_> one
16:29 < zeropod> kirsk: iPod, but eh
16:29 < zeropod> smart_: i just think it's a good skill
16:30 < smart_> Hehe
16:30 < smart_> It's a good skill if you're in the middle of nowhere or have less than $15 :-)
16:30 < zeropod> that's me
16:30 < smart_> Where you at?
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16:31 < smart_> brbbl?
16:31 < smart_> That's confusing.
16:31 <@benryves> As is the redundant "at", where does that originate from? (I assume it's a feature of US English?)
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16:31 < smart_> ben: What?
16:32 < zeropod> atm, Indian Head PA
16:32 < smart_> I see.
16:32 <@benryves> smart_: "Where are you?", yet I occasionally see the addition of the word "at" - "Where are you at?" - and was wondering where that originates from.
16:33 < leofox> probably from the black people
16:34 < sir_lewk> smart_ babe, what is up?
16:34 < smart_> Hahahahahah
16:34 < smart_> leofox: Probably!
16:35 < smart_> benryves: My shortened form is due to laziness, I guess.
16:35  * smart_ kisses sir_lewk
16:35 < sir_lewk> leofox: actually it's the "white-ized" version
16:35 < smart_> Black should be like "where you is?"
16:35 < sir_lewk> black people say "where you at?"
16:35 < sir_lewk> yeah
16:35 <@benryves> sir_lewk: Hm, curious. :)
16:36 < sir_lewk> case in point: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ew94okDkCwU
16:36 < jd19> heh
16:37 < sir_lewk> it's definetly an ebonics derived thing I think
16:39 < jd19> could be
16:39 < sir_lewk> anyways, I use it often
16:39 < leofox> where the hood where the hood where the hood at
16:40 < leofox> have that *censoredbyMV* in the cut where the wood at
16:40 <@benryves> The "hood" of a car is another oddity, being a "bonnet" in the UK (both items of headgear).
16:40 < leofox> this hood doesnt mean bonnet ben
16:40 < leofox> it means neighbourhood
16:40 < sir_lewk> "*censoredbyMV*" lol
16:41 <@benryves> leofox: 'hood? :P
16:41 < leofox> in tha hood
16:41 < sir_lewk> in da hood
16:41 < sir_lewk> 'n da hood ida poot a cap 'n yo ass
16:41 < leofox> i beez gettin the white wimminz yknow what im sayin
16:43 < Nikky> No wonder this channel thinks... smart_ showed up.
16:43 < sir_lewk> hmm
16:43 < sir_lewk> you guys ever see "the boondocks"?
16:43 < sir_lewk> it's a pretty smart show
16:44 < leofox> awesome
16:45 < leofox> my keyboard has a cowbell
16:47 < sir_lewk> cool
16:47 < sir_lewk> so it doesn't run away?
16:48 <@benryves> Woo, "Secure your investment in Visual Basic 6.0" from Microsoft. :)
16:49 <@benryves> It's quite scary how much old stuff is out there. :(
16:52 <+kirsk> http://zip.4chan.org/v/src/1233074355856.gif
16:54 <@E-J> note to self: you can't find real food in stockholm during day (before 17:00)
16:54 <@benryves> E-J: You're in Stockholm?
16:55 <@E-J> i'm leaving stockholm
16:55  * E-J is at silja serenade atm
16:58 <@benryves> Speaking of which, from the ministry of stating the bleeding obvious: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7852168.stm
17:08 < sir_lewk> those look delicious
17:09 < sir_lewk> I'm totally hungry now
17:09 <+kirsk> meh if you get kebab at a decent place its 10x better than mcdonalds or burger king
17:10 <+kirsk> just hold the sauce
17:10 < sir_lewk> exactly
17:10 <@benryves> Isn't that sticky, kirsk? :P
17:10 < sir_lewk> http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45417000/gif/_45417085_kebab_cont_466x265.gif  That looks fine
17:10 <+kirsk> hehe
17:11 <+kirsk> lolllllllllllll 55grams protein daily allowance for men
17:11 < sir_lewk> I don't get why people get so histarical about food.  if it's not for you, then just don't eat it
17:11 < sir_lewk> yeah really, what's up with that?
17:11 < sir_lewk> I probably triple that a day, and I'm not exactly a heavy meat eater
17:11 <+kirsk> oh yeah wait dietitians think everyone should eat 2000cals a day eventhough thats only just enough for a lazy woman
17:12 < sir_lewk> exactly
17:12 < sir_lewk> some people are actually active, and SUPRIZE! everyone has unique dietary needs!
17:12 <+kirsk> enjoy your starvation mode metabolism sheeple
17:13 < sir_lewk> I recognize myself as somewhat overweight, so I am on a self-enforced diet and exersize regimin right now
17:14 <+kirsk> oh?
17:14 < sir_lewk> no government intervetion needed
17:14 < sir_lewk> yeah
17:14 <+kirsk> whats the plan?
17:14 < sir_lewk> I'm actually average right now, but I'm a lardass compared to what I used to be (a swimmer)
17:14 < sir_lewk> meh, mostly eat less, don't stuff myself every meal
17:15 < sir_lewk> eat salad for lunch on occasion
17:15 < sir_lewk> stop eating ramen or pure carbs for each meal
17:15 < sir_lewk> just eat better in general.  chips are not a dinner ;)
17:15 < sir_lewk> no more pizza either.  shit is addictive
17:16 <+kirsk> now theres a big source of salt
17:16 < sir_lewk> yeah
17:16 <@benryves> Shit?
17:16 < sir_lewk> >.<
17:16 <+kirsk> nah thats more fiber
17:16 < sir_lewk> pizza :P
17:16 <@benryves> Can't say I've ever eaten it, but thanks for the warning. :P
17:16 <+kirsk> yw
17:16 < sir_lewk> lol
17:16 < jd19> ramen is like the worst thing you can eat
17:16 < sir_lewk> yeah it really is
17:16 < jd19> so much salt in that
17:17 < jd19> it's ridiculous
17:17 < sir_lewk> I'm also doing several sets of pushups and situps every day
17:17 < jd19> they shouldn't even be able to sell that stuff legally
17:17 < sir_lewk> I'm going to start swimming and going to the gym as soon as I'm back on campus
17:17 < sir_lewk> see, there I have to disagree
17:17 < jd19> why's that
17:17 < sir_lewk> that'd be as bad as banning pot
17:17 <+kirsk> i recon if you hold the salt and lettuce kebab is quite a good meal
17:17 < sir_lewk> no, worse, ramen isn't a "drug" in any sense
17:18 < sir_lewk> holding lettuce makes it better?
17:18 < jd19> heh yeah i guess it shouldn't be illegal
17:18 <+kirsk> i always get mine just the bun and meat (extra meat)
17:18 < jd19> but no one should buy it lol
17:18 < sir_lewk> true ;)
17:18 < sir_lewk> I've been living off ramen for the past few months.  not a good idea
17:19 < jd19> how tall are you and how much do you weigh
17:19 < sir_lewk> 5'9", probably 160
17:19 <@benryves> How can you "live" off them? There's hardly any nutritional value, is there? :P
17:19 < jd19> that's overweight?
17:19 <+kirsk> its just energie/carbs
17:19 < sir_lewk> I actually haven't gained that much, but I've lost *a lot* of muscle mass
17:19 < jd19> yeah i know what you mean
17:19 < sir_lewk> I'm not overweight I guess, just not in shape
17:20 <+kirsk> losing muscle mass + staying about the same weight = fat ++
17:20 <+kirsk> or water
17:20 <+kirsk> or both
17:20 < jd19> i used to be really active in college, played baseball and i played other sports recreationally
17:20 < jd19> but i got lazy after college for about a year
17:20 < sir_lewk> oh yeah
17:21 < sir_lewk> I've gone cold turkey on soda too
17:21 <+kirsk> hmm how much would a 4-5000 cal diet cost per week?
17:21 < sir_lewk> just water now
17:21 < jd19> and now i am back into being active again so i've gained a lot of muscle mass back due to lifting and playing sports
17:21 < jd19> i try not to drink pop, but i will treat myself to a diet pop every once in awhile
17:21 < sir_lewk> yeah
17:22 <+kirsk> what do you lift like?
17:22 < sir_lewk> I've started doing coffee instead of coke in the morning
17:22 < jd19> i lift like a person that lifts weights?
17:22 < jd19> what do you mean lol
17:22 < sir_lewk> haha
17:22 <+kirsk> what kind of program?
17:22 < sir_lewk> when I lift, I do low weight, high reps
17:23 < sir_lewk> lowish/highish
17:23 < sir_lewk> nothing extreme
17:23 < jd19> lets just say i dont have a very structured program
17:23 < jd19> lol
17:23 <+kirsk> ok, free weights?
17:23 < jd19> i try to just lift 3-4 days a week using free weights
17:23 <+kirsk> fullbody?
17:23 < jd19> and i do a lot of core exercises since i pitch
17:23 < jd19> yeah i try to work just about everything
17:23 <+kirsk> cool
17:23 < jd19> it's been hard to find time with the baby and everything
17:24 < jd19> and i'm actually doing physical therapy on my shoulder right now so i can't do any shoulder intensive workouts
17:24 < jd19> i've been focusing mostly on lower body/core exercises
17:24 <+kirsk> yeah shoulders are touchy for pitchers
17:24 <+kirsk> good good
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17:24 < jd19> yeah...physical therapy sucks...its such a pain in the ass
17:25 < sir_lewk> http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/01/27/1354225&from=rss hmm
17:25 < jd19> i have to do like 10 things and do them 3 times a day
17:25 <+kirsk> yeah
17:25 <+kirsk> well a lot of pitchers have completely ruined their shoulders
17:26 < jd19> i had a lot of issues with it this summer
17:26 < jd19> before this year it never bothered me
17:26 < sir_lewk> well the forces involved while pitching are pretty insane
17:26 < jd19> so i'm going to try to get it back into shape before march
17:26 <+kirsk> must be frustrating as hell
17:26 < jd19> yeah its like the most terrible thing you can do to your arm lol
17:27 < jd19> throw over the top like that...throw breaking balls
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17:28 < jd19> i dont know how the guys that throw 90-100mph do it
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17:30 <+kirsk> crazy training and therapy
17:32 < jd19> yeah you can train to add a couple mph, but i think genetics goes into most of it
17:33 < jd19> a lot like other stuff, you have a certain amount of potential, just depends on how much you do to reach the highest point of that potential
17:33 < jd19> and alzheimers is weird.
17:33 <+kirsk> heh
17:34 <@benryves> Poor Sir Terry. :(
17:35 <+kirsk> bah this working thing is lame
17:37 < jd19> yes.
17:38 <+kirsk> im counting on 300 euro a month more than they "can" offer me
17:38 <+kirsk> and that would still be a very very very low total
17:38 <+kirsk> like can only just survive with rent and food low
17:38 <+kirsk> in the cheapest possible place
17:42 < jd19> so you're not getting paid much right now?
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17:42 <+kirsk> well nothing at all right now
17:42 <+kirsk> thats their offer to hire me
17:43 < jd19> damn that sounds kinda rough
17:43 < jd19> get a roommate?
17:44 <+kirsk> yeah me and a friend or two always go like we should totally just rent a house and split floors or something so we only have to work half as much as we want to and still do another college course after this one
17:45 < jd19> but you never do or what?
17:45 <+kirsk> i dont think he takes the idea seriously
17:45 <+kirsk> i do
17:46 < jd19> oh
17:46 < jd19> well that sucks for you heh
17:46 <+kirsk> jup
17:46 < jd19> i live with my girlfriend and she's in school and only working part time so i pay for mostly everything
17:46 < jd19> everything besides groceries basically
17:46 <+kirsk> eh i recon both occupants could then work parttime
17:46 <+kirsk> and spend the rest of the time being awesome
17:47 <+kirsk> or doing new college things
17:47 < jd19> yeah i was definitely having a lot more fun in college than i am having now
17:47 < jd19> well i guess having a kid can be fun, but it doesnt leave much time for yourself
17:47 <+kirsk> well im not having kids
17:48 < jd19> lol
17:48 < jd19> good plan
17:48 <+kirsk> gotta find that first gf first bah
17:49 <+kirsk> hence the being awesome and trying another college thing
17:49 < jd19> rent a house, split rent with a friend, have parties, invite girls, stuff will happen
17:49 <+kirsk> see
17:49 <+kirsk> i think thats a great idea
17:50 < jd19> because it is a great idea
17:50 <+kirsk> i seem to be very alone out here with liking great ideas like that
17:50 <+kirsk> even saw a cute girl at this job place when i went for the interview
17:50 < jd19> then what
17:50 <+kirsk> ?
17:51 < jd19> oh
17:51 < jd19> i thought something happened with the cute girl at the job place
17:51 < jd19> between you and the girl that is
17:51 <+kirsk> no just saw her sitting at her desk answering phone calls during my little tour before i had to leave
17:51 <+kirsk> nothing happens between me and girls thats the problem :P
17:52 <@benryves> You could just let it not bother you.
17:52 <+kirsk> it bothers me?
17:52 <@benryves> By the amount you talk about it in here, I'd say it did. >_>
17:53 <+kirsk> it comes up is all
17:53 < jd19> haha
17:54 < jd19> sometimes you gotta make things happen
17:55 < jd19> hmmm how long has xs4all.nl been around?
17:55 <+kirsk> true, but even seeing cute girls around here at all is `sometimes` enough
17:56 <+kirsk> also having a shot at being awesome is even less sometimes
17:56 <+kirsk> but we'll see, i was more focused on training and eating a shitton while finishing college and having the money for rent all at the same time
17:56 <+kirsk> but apparently thats not possible
17:56 < jd19> you'll have to talk to ports about being awesome since he thinks he is and everything
17:57 <+kirsk> hehe yeah
17:58 < jd19> alright time to try the contact lens again...
18:00 < jd19> seems better....for now
18:01 <+kirsk> mine have been wierd lately
18:01 <+kirsk> makes everything sharper, but not fully as sharp as things should be
18:02 < jd19> the one in my right eye has been getting foggy or something
18:02 < jd19> like something is smudged on it
18:02 <+kirsk> hmm
18:02 < jd19> i dont know if i have goo in my eye or what
18:04 < jd19> i go to the eye doctor tomorrow to get my eyes checked anyway
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18:24 <+kirsk> hur
18:25 < jd19> ?
18:25 <+kirsk> [19:23] * Disconnected
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18:26 < jd19> yeah that happens
18:26 < jd19> almost lunch time...
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18:33 < jd19> i love vmware
18:33 < jd19> lunch bbl
18:36 <+kirsk> hmm what do you find first? a place or a roomy?
18:36 < leofox> a place
18:37 <+kirsk> but how do you pay it without a roomy?
18:37 < leofox> you can find a place that has a room left
18:39 < i_c-Y> roommate
18:44 <+kirsk> ok how does this sound: "Relaxed 21 your old local dude, 6'4 athletic parttime student parttime awesome, looking for (female form of student) roomy. Must like music and cats (not the musical). Thin/athletic and dark or red hair preferred."
18:45 < i_c-Y> sounds like what a rapist would write
18:45 < i_c-Y> your old dude?
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18:45 < i_c-Y> ask Dam\__ how retarded that sounds
18:46 < Dam\__> *Shivering:*  It's snowing!
18:46 <+kirsk> what?
18:46 < i_c-Y> even he doesnt write stuff that dumb.
18:46 <+kirsk> "your old dude?" ?
18:46 < Dam\__> Anyway, what'd I miss?
18:47 < i_c-Y> <+kirsk> ok how does this sound: "Relaxed 21 your old local dude, 6'4 athletic parttime student parttime awesome, looking for (female form of student) roomy. Must like music and cats (not the musical). Thin/athletic and dark or red hair preferred."
18:47 < i_c-Y> <i_c-Y> sounds like what a rapist would write
18:47  * Dam\__ bursts out laughing.
18:48 < i_c-Y> see? SEE?
18:49 < Dam\__> kirsk:  What the fuck is that, your resume?
18:49 < i_c-Y> the only way you could make it similar is be like "BABY I WANT TO ACCESS YOU ON PORT 31337 CAUSE THATS WHERE BACKORFICE IS"
18:49 <+kirsk> similar?
18:52 < leofox> dude
18:52 < leofox> the platinum rule
18:52 < leofox> dont *love* thy neighbour
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18:56 <+kirsk> there are exceptions
18:56 < leofox> yuh when shes really hot
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18:56 < leofox> but srsly
18:57 <+kirsk> like if she is an eight or better, someone makes a bet that i cant, she's dressing a little slutty, or if she's been looking pretty good lately
18:57 < leofox> posting something like that makesit way too hard on yourself
18:57 <+kirsk> hard?
18:57 < leofox> its hard enough to find someone to live with
18:57 <+kirsk> hehehe
18:58 < leofox> we had it over here too
18:58 < leofox> they wanted a hot girl not too tall with no allergies that could stand extremely loud music and potheads
18:58 <+kirsk> im ok with tall allergic girls
18:59 < leofox> ok bad example because we kind of succeeded
18:59 < i_c-Y> funny, kirsk , because they're all allergic to you!
18:59 <+kirsk> teehee
18:59 < leofox> well she sometimes complains when my neighbour turns it up to the point where people from another building are like WTF IS HAPPENING
19:00 < leofox> and she cant eat nuts
19:00 < i_c-Y> but she sure can suck on em.
19:00 <+kirsk> no peanut butter O_O
19:00 < i_c-Y> and lick em.
19:00 < leofox> peanut butter is disgusting
19:00 < Dam\__> i_c-Y++
19:00 < leofox> might as well get some lard, add a bunch of salt and paint it greenish brown
19:01 <+kirsk> huh?
19:01 <+kirsk> oh
19:01 <+kirsk> right well, i would complain about the music in that scenario as well
19:02 < leofox> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JcKVT-fyaA
19:02 < leofox> boeremeisies rule!
19:02 < leofox> thats not dutch btw
19:03 < i_c-Y> what the fuck, leofox 
19:03 < i_c-Y> peanut butter is not greenish
19:03 <+kirsk> eww ewww eww
19:03 < leofox> i_c-Y im colourblind
19:03 <+kirsk> well my bros arent awesome enough to seriously enough want to leave their parents house
19:03 < leofox> e boeremeisie moet jij krij
19:03 < leofox> want sij kan lekker vry
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19:08 <+kirsk> a cool bro or a cute alt chick would be nice for a roomy
19:09 <+kirsk> and thats not mutually exclusive
19:09 < leofox> hey kirsk we got the bro code
19:09 < leofox> from the how i met your mother
19:09 <+kirsk> me too
19:09 <+kirsk> but in digital and audio form
19:10 < leofox> we got it in physical book form
19:10 <+kirsk> cool
19:10 < leofox> you know
19:10 < leofox> dead tree media
19:10 <+kirsk> cool
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19:14 <@_Auron_> woah
19:14 < Dam\__> How do I pass a vector as a function parameter?
19:17 <@_Auron_> you do the macarena
19:17 < Dam\__> Never mind, I figured it out.
19:19 <+kirsk> like a kidney stone
19:19 <@_Auron_> lol
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19:24 <@_Auron_> it's 32F here and freezing water is raining until 6am tomorrow
19:24 <@_Auron_> will be ice pellets later
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19:34 < jd19> lol i just went back and read that "advertisement"
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19:41 <+kirsk> ooh i just thought of something. maybe the billiards center bar girl is looking for someone
19:42 <+kirsk> judging by where she lives and works im sure she could use someone to split rent with
19:42 < jd19> what are you gonna do, go up and say "can i live with you"
19:42 <+kirsk> no, she can say it
19:43 < smart_> Let us know how that works out :-)
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19:45 < jd19> maybe you could find somebody on craigslist lol
19:46 < smart_> Hah
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19:46 < obnauticu> goto the casual encounters section
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19:48 < jd19> oops
19:48 < jd19> i was connected to a client through vnc, and i went to close vnc but i decided to use alt-f4 for some reason, and i forgot it goes to their computer so i accidentally closed something they were working on
19:49 < jd19> so i just disconnected real fast
19:49 <+kirsk> if it doesnt have exit/quit verification then it wasnt important
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19:49 < jd19> that's what i figure
19:50 < smart_> Where do you work?
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19:51 < jd19> at a financial firm
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19:52 < jd19> provide tax/payroll/accounting/etc services
19:56 < smart_> Ah
19:56 < obnauticu> err is (3x+4) * (2x-3) = 6x+12 ?
19:56 < obnauticu> im having a brain disaster right now
19:58 < obnauticu> oh god oh god
19:58 < obnauticu> it's not!
19:58 < obnauticu> lol
19:58 <@_Auron_> huh.
19:59 <@_Auron_> my first day of work got postponed because of the weather :X
19:59 <+kirsk> -12
19:59 < obnauticu> oh duh
19:59 < obnauticu> lol
19:59 < obnauticu> 4 * -3
19:59 < obnauticu> god
19:59 < jd19> foil
19:59 < obnauticu> oh, i have that on my paper
19:59 <@_Auron_> my new boss called me and told me they weren't going to be working today because the drive back home would be too dangerous
19:59 <@_Auron_> cool manager
19:59 <@_Auron_> I know a lot of other places wouldn't give a damn :P
20:00 < jd19> 6x^2 - x - 12
20:00 < jd19> isnt that what it is
20:00 < obnauticu> hold
20:01 < obnauticu> oh
20:01 < obnauticu> i see what you did there
20:01 < obnauticu> lol
20:01 < jd19> First, Outside, Inside, Last
20:02 < obnauticu> and what about (3x+4) / (2x-3)
20:02 < obnauticu> ya, my algebra teachers sucked major ass
20:02 < obnauticu> i pretty much had to figure out everything on my own before calculus :\
20:02 <+kirsk> / = ^-1
20:04 < obnauticu> That's pretty much simplified :\
20:04 < jd19> heh
20:04 <@_Auron_> this dragonball game is cool
20:04 <@_Auron_> for DS
20:05 <@_Auron_> it's a zelda-ish gameplay style, with jap (uncensored) version of dragonball with extra gameplay filler
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20:07 < jd19> i kinda forgot about math
20:07 < jd19> i'm surprised i remembered FOIL
20:10 < zeropod> ???
20:14 < jd19> what
20:14 < zeropod> foil??
20:15 < jd19> oh, for multiplying formulas
20:15 < jd19> like (3x+4)(2x-3)
20:16 < zeropod> yeah, wtf is foil?
20:16 < Dam\__> [F]irst, [O]uter, [I]nner, [L]ast.
20:16 < zeropod> ohh
20:16 < zeropod> i thought it was common sense
20:17 < zeropod> 1 0 1 0. 1 0 0 1. 0 1 1 0. 0 1 0 1. binary
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20:23 < Dam\__> I stored a bunch of strings to vectors, now how do I read them out?
20:24 < Dam\__> "vector[x]" gives me an error.
20:24 <+prime_> vectors?
20:24 < Dam\__> * "vec[x]"
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20:33 < obnauticu> Blarrr
20:33 < obnauticu> f(x) is a complex polynomial whose coefficients are real numbers. Find the remaining zeros of f. Degree: 3l zeros: 3,4-i;
20:34 < obnauticu> wouldn't that just be 3,4-i,4+i
20:34 < obnauticu> ?
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20:38 < jd19> now that's the type of crap i dont remember
20:39 < obnauticu> all of this is the type of crap i don't remember
20:39 < obnauticu> lol
20:39 < jd19> are you in school right now?
20:39 < obnauticu> finals week
20:39 < obnauticu> along with a punishment...im not in school right now
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20:40 < obnauticu> but im taking finals and finishing this simester, and going to a different highschool probably.
20:40 < jd19> oh
20:40 < jd19> if you're in high school, you should know that stuff lol
20:40 < obnauticu> ya
20:40 < obnauticu> You never use it again though
20:40 < obnauticu> :\
20:40 < obnauticu> pisses me off
20:41 < jd19> yeah i dont know about never using it again
20:41 < jd19> but i havent used much of it
20:42 <@_Auron_> dude mirror's edge is interesting.
20:42 < obnauticu> ya it is
20:42 <@_Auron_> and pretty
20:42 <@_Auron_> really. pretty.
20:44 <+kirsk> how is the melee?
20:45 < obnauticu> repetitive
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20:51 < leofox> i cant install it
20:51 < leofox> for some reason i cant mount the image
20:51 < jd19> weird...what are you using to mount the image
20:52 < leofox> magicdisc
20:53 < jd19> oh, never tried it, always used daemon tools
20:53 < jd19> magicdisc probably suppports more formats though
20:54 < leofox> dunno
20:54 < leofox> it's a bit lighter and less annoying than daemon tools
20:55 < leofox> but it kept crashing
20:57 <+kirsk> try poweriso
20:57 < Dam\__> Whoo, I got it working.
20:57  * Dam\__ does a happy dance, loves C++ a little bit more.
21:10 < obnauticu> you can dance if you wanna
21:11 < zeropod> goodbye friends
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21:12 <@efneTI92> [rivereye] Is it time to go fishing?
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21:14 < obnauticu> Hopefully my teacehr will let me take my final after i can get the questions from people
21:14 < obnauticu> :\
21:15 < zeropod> ...
21:15 < zeropod> what?
21:15 < obnauticu> eh highschool
21:15 < obnauticu> lol
21:16 < zeropod> oh.. WHAT?
21:16 < obnauticu> lol
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21:48 < obnauticu> i_c-Y you goto cooper union?
21:50 < i_c-Y> maybe?
21:50 < obnauticu> heh I wanted to go there
21:50 < obnauticu> lol
21:51 <+prime_> "maybe?" ?
21:51 <+prime_> that question mark of yours makes no sense
21:51 < obnauticu> well, i saw his PTR when he joined :\
21:52 <+prime_> no, i_c-Y's
21:54 < obnauticu> ya, whatever lol
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22:13 <@_Auron_> leofox: daemon tools lite worked just fine for me
22:13 < obnauticu> Anyone here know how to find the exact value of a log without a calculator?
22:13 < obnauticu> log_2(2x+1)
22:14 < obnauticu> = 3
22:15 <@Andy_J> where'd the x go >_>
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22:15 < obnauticu> uhhh
22:15  * obnauticu shrugs shoulders
22:23 < zeropod> yeeah
22:23 < zeropod> you need to stay in hs
22:25 <+kirsk> you know, it would be really cool if this supermarket website ordering thing would let you enter in your meals and it'd show you what products to get
22:25 <+kirsk> and how much
22:26 < obnauticu> no im going to stay in hs
22:26 < obnauticu> zeropod i just got in a little scuffle with the district's computer network
22:26 < obnauticu> and...my school didn't like it
22:27 < obnauticu> but im still doing my work for the school and completing finals and moving
22:27 < obnauticu> to a diff. highschool
22:27 < obnauticu> it will be fine
22:29 < jd19> trying to change your grades?
22:29 < obnauticu> No
22:29 < obnauticu> I have a 4.0
22:30 < obnauticu> no reason
22:30 <+kirsk> bahaha
22:30 < obnauticu> It was blown out of proportion, and my school's administration is computer retarded so when ITS said it was `hacking` they went buzzurk
22:30 < jd19> so what were you doing then lol
22:30 < obnauticu> I don't think a default password is `hacking`
22:31 < obnauticu> I cannot talk about it
22:31 < obnauticu> They threatened criminal charges (which they said they won't press) but my attourney said hell no you don't talk
22:31 < obnauticu> so i can't.
22:31 <+kirsk> you just did
22:31 < jd19> lol yeah
22:32 < obnauticu> not enough to do anything, though.
22:32 < obnauticu> whatever.
22:32 < obnauticu> i shut up now.
22:32 <+kirsk> actually if you had said this to a prosecuting agent youd be fucked already
22:32 <@_Auron_> who the hell are you anyways?
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22:32 <@efneTI92> [Netham45] Narf!
22:32 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Netham45] by efneTI81
22:32 <@_Auron_> great, now netham is in here
22:33 <+kirsk> idk who half the people in here lately are
22:33 <+Netham45> I'm the awesomest.
22:33 <+kirsk> Dam\__ i guess is damarakuwhateveritwas
22:33 < obnauticu> How the hell do you know EXACTLY log_2(1) is without a calculator :|
22:33 < obnauticu> or a sliderule
22:33 <@_Auron_> memorization?
22:33 <@Andy_J> using default passwords is still unauthorized use of computing resources
22:33 < jd19> are you in oregon?
22:33 <@Andy_J> and that's the end of that
22:33 < obnauticu> naw orlando.
22:34 < jd19> yeah its like going to your neighbors and knowing theres a key under the rug and using it to go in
22:34 <@_Auron_> off to miror's edge again, ended up eating lunch with a friend
22:34 < jd19> lol orlando
22:34  * Dam\__ has a thirty-nine character password.
22:34 <+Netham45> speaking of passwords, apparantly the administration at my school set the admin password on the network to Pa$$word
22:34 <@_Auron_> Dam\__: wtf
22:34 < jd19> bling bling
22:35 <+kirsk> password length isnt very impressive
22:35 <+kirsk> could just be increasing digits
22:35 <+Netham45> my password's 11 characters, mixed numbers/symbols/case.
22:35 < obnauticu> lol
22:35 < obnauticu> depends on the type of attack
22:35 < Dam\__> I use sentences as passwords where they let me.
22:36 <+kirsk> mine is something like 4pf6nggb
22:36 < obnauticu> I have a 16 didgit password with caps/lowercase special characters and numbers
22:36 <+kirsk> which i use for everything including online banking
22:36 <+kirsk> so if anyone wants -147 euro... youre free to go at it
22:36 < obnauticu> I want negative money!
22:37 < Dam\__> Anti-money?
22:37 <+kirsk> yeah its comes into existence near blackholes
22:38 <+kirsk> the pro-money shoots off into infinity or something
22:38 <+kirsk> i didnt pay much attention to the antimatter black hole schematic i saw yesterday
22:44 < obnauticu> You need a -1 multiplier
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22:56 <@_Auron_> wow... having physx on and not having hardware physx = superlag when glass shatters in mirror's edge
22:56 < zeropod> lol
22:57 < Tari> oh, yeah
22:57 < Tari> I got that
22:57 < Tari> got to the first bit with enemies
22:57 < Tari> running away, and .5 fps
22:58 <@_Auron_> yeah
22:58 <@_Auron_> it's because physx is on
22:59 < Tari> yup
22:59 < Tari> on.. by default
22:59 < Tari> which is really dumb
23:00 < Tari> just autodetect...
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23:02 <+kirsk> whats your cpu + gpu ?
23:02 <@_Auron_> phenom 8450 x3 (2.1ghz) and 512mb radeon 4850
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23:09 <+kirsk> "bears dont lift weight. How are bears so strong?"
23:14 < leofox> because they lift salmon all the time
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23:16 < leofox>  Okay but Bears have been known to kill animals bigger then them as well and plus why would a bear not be stronger pound for pound I mean they Lift these huge rocks off the ground and it is hard to imagin that a cat is more powerful I mean if it was an ambush I could see why but in a one on one face off that is hard to believe unless the cat somehow manages to get behind the bear by using its agility but besides that wouldnt you say a bear is stronge
23:17 <+kirsk> http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/06/images/060613-cat-bear_big.jpg
23:17 <+kirsk> EXPLAIN
23:17 < leofox> everyone knows black bears are pussies
23:17 <+kirsk> well ok but we hadnt specified yet
23:17 <+kirsk> also
23:17 <+kirsk> what do you think of tripping alone?
23:18 < leofox> sounds like itd be more fun with company
23:20 <+kirsk> yeah with good company
23:20 < leofox> what do you mean tripping
23:20 <+kirsk> shrooms lsd or mdma
23:21 < leofox> mah
23:21 < leofox> part of the fun with the shrooms was that everyone was so baked
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23:22 <+kirsk> eh i cant think of a decent way to do them with friends untill summer
23:23 <+kirsk> plus none of them are even remotely into the idea
23:23 < leofox> make new friends
23:23 < leofox> invite dantes, me and other random tcpa people and trip
23:23 <+kirsk> eh i think id need a trip before doing that
23:24 < leofox> you could also do drugs that are more fun alone
23:24 <+kirsk> well my idea isnt to just sit somewhere being "baked"
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23:42 <+kirsk> "Welcome to the Windows® 7 Beta!? Exploring Windows: Special Beta Edition "
23:42 <+kirsk> special?
23:46 < Dam\__> Retarded "special" or first-edition-that-does-not-suck "special?"
23:49 <+kirsk> hmm is it fair to ask your mom to spend quite a bit more money on food for you?
23:50 < smart__> Rather than who?
23:51 <+kirsk> what?
23:51 < smart__> <+kirsk> hmm is it fair to ask your mom to spend quite a bit more money on food for you?
23:51 < smart__> <smart__> Rather than who?
23:51 <+kirsk> santaclaus?
23:51 < smart__> More money on food as opposed to someone else?
23:51 < smart__> Or just in general?
23:51 <+kirsk> erm the issue is about asking to spend more money, not who does the spending
23:52 <+kirsk> oh erm more than right now
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23:52 < smart__> Why does she need to spend more?
23:52 <+kirsk> because i need more food
23:52 < smart__> You fat?
23:52 <+kirsk> no?
23:52 < smart__> Then I think it's fair to ask :-)
23:52 <+kirsk> im going to need like 4500 maybe even more cals a day
23:52 < smart__> What are you eating now?
23:53 < smart__> And how old are you?
23:53 <+kirsk> normal amount of bread + milk and whatever dinners serves plus whatever i buy myself (mostly fruit and milk)
23:53 <+kirsk> 21
23:53 < smart__> Have a job?
23:54 <+kirsk> i think i found one
23:54 <+kirsk> to start next week
23:55 < smart__> Hmmmmm
23:55 < smart__> I'd say you can ask
23:55 < smart__> As long as your mom isn't in some financial crisis, I guess.
23:55 <+kirsk> oh, no
23:55 < smart__> Good!
23:55 <+kirsk> if anything my parents have spend like 10 times less on me my whole life than on my sister anyway
23:57 < Merthsoft> i have to buy my own food and pay rent at home
23:57  * Dam\__ eats once or twice a day, sometimes three, either Raisin Bran Crunch and fat-free milk or a small meal from the cafeteria and fruit.
23:57 < smart__> What do you weigh, Dam?
23:58 < Dam\__> A hundred and thirty, last time I checked.
23:58 < zeropod> Merthsoft: yup
23:58 <+kirsk> well if i had to i obviously wouldnt be wondering if i could ask for them to spend more money on my food
23:58 < Merthsoft> no one is saying you have to, kirsk 
23:58 < Merthsoft> all i said is i do
23:58 < Merthsoft> keep up, bud
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23:58 < smart__> Dam\__: How tall?
23:58 <+kirsk> no one is saying you were saying i have to
23:59 < Merthsoft> quiet kirsk 
23:59 < Dam\__> Five-four.
23:59 < smart__> Ah ok
23:59 < smart__> Sounds about normal.
23:59 <+kirsk> normal isnt good enough
23:59 <+kirsk> lets try to be awesome instead
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