--- Log opened Sun Jan 25 00:00:11 2009
00:01 < Tari> any suggestions on a splash screen for GRUB on my laptop?
00:01 < Tari> (as in, what sort of image)
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00:02  * Damakaru points at Google Images.
00:03 < Tari> laaaame
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00:04  * Damakaru also points to Omploader's random button.
00:04 < Tari> fine, I'll see if there's anything good on wikimedia commons
00:06 < Barrett> oh. my. gosh.
00:06 < Barrett> windows 98?
00:06 < Damakaru> Yeah.
00:06 <@chronomex> ?
00:07 < Damakaru> He uses it.
00:07 <@chronomex> who?
00:07 < Damakaru> Ovan.
00:07  * chronomex reads back
00:07 <@chronomex> hmmmm, that's sort of old, isn't it?
00:07 < Damakaru> I think his computer is a royal piece of shit, too.
00:08 < Barrett> people who weren't even born when that came out are now in middle school
00:08 < Damakaru> Like, a hundred and something-odd megabytes of RAM.
00:08 <@chronomex> hahahaha
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00:08 <@Andy_J> Damakaru: considering 98 was designed for 32, that's plenty
00:09 <@chronomex> we
00:09 < Damakaru> "We" what?
00:09 <@Andy_J> n ou
00:09 <@chronomex> wrong window
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00:10 <@chronomex> so, in other news, apparently people use KDE
00:12 < Damakaru> *Sympathetic "aww."* How sad!
00:20 < Barrett> hmmm... I have this love-hate thing for this situation...
00:20 < Barrett> I transfer a script from one setup to another and it breaks
00:20 < Barrett> so by fixing it I find out the way it was supposed to be done in the first place
00:20 < Barrett> I learn something, but it's such a pain!
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00:27 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Netham45] by efneTI81
00:27 -!- Damakaru is now known as Dam\__
00:27  * Netham45 just got a 2GB RAM module for $17 at Micro Center
00:27 < Dam\__> Nice.
00:28 <+Netham45>  Physical Memory  Size: 4.00 gb | Used: 873.79 mb (21%) | Free: 3.14 gb ||||||||||
00:28 <+Netham45>  Page File  Size: 4.00 gb | Used: 0.00 b (0%) | Free: 4.00 gb ||||||||||
00:28 <+Netham45>  Virtual Memory  Size: 2.00 gb | Used: 2.00 gb (100%) | Free: 1.88 gb ||||||||||
00:28 < Tari> oh yeah?
00:28 <+Netham45> ignore the virtual memory section, it's broken.
00:28 < NikkyJr>  holy shit
00:28 < NikkyJr> http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/411/41156.html
00:28 <@Andy_J> I don't see how virtual memory is relevant anyway
00:28 < NikkyJr> look at those files!
00:28 <@Andy_J> since it's per-process
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00:28 < Tari> physical memory: Size 6.00 gb | Used: 2478 MB
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00:29 <+Netham45> Tari, yea, it's 800MHz DDR2 Dual channel 2GB.
00:29 < Tari> same
00:29 < Dam\__> Nikky:  Fucking hell, that's a lot of files.
00:29 < Tari> :)
00:29 < Tari> but 6 GB
00:29 <+Netham45> I could have got 6GB
00:29 <@Andy_J> lol DDR2
00:29 <+Netham45> they had 1GB modules for $10
00:30 < Nikky> I have 512MB of ram.
00:30 <@Andy_J> some of us are still using DDR and are proud of it
00:30 <+Netham45> my laptop has DDR
00:30 <+Netham45> still works fine
00:30 < Nikky> Andy_J: But you use macs, so your opinion doesn't count.
00:30 <@Andy_J> that's funny actually
00:30 <@Andy_J> my DDR box is my windows box
00:31 < Nikky> I never said it was your mac that had DDR, now did I.
00:31 <@Andy_J> The "doesn't count" boxes use PC-133 or DDR2.
00:31 <@Andy_J> I suppose.
00:31 <+Netham45> owning a mac immediately nulls any opinions one may have.
00:31 < Nikky> Exactly.
00:31 < Nikky> I thought that was clear enough
00:31 < Dam\__> ^
00:31  * Andy_J sighs.
00:31 <+Netham45> damn, TF2 loads instantly with 4GB of RAM
00:32 <+Netham45> wow
00:32 < Nikky> We still love you though Andy_J :)
00:32 <+Netham45> no we don't...
00:32 < Nikky> Well, I do.
00:32 <+Netham45> speak for yourself.
00:32 < Nikky> Everyone makes a mistake once in a while.
00:32 < Dam\__> Generalizing is a bad thing.
00:32 < Nikky> I mean, at least he doesn't use Gentoo. >.>
00:32 <@Andy_J> lol linux
00:33 < Nikky> Unix sucks.
00:33 <@Andy_J> plan9 ftw.
00:33 <+prime_> tf2 ftw
00:33 < Nikky> I support a PHP-based kernel.
00:33 <+prime_> haha
00:33 <@Andy_J> wait, what
00:33 <@Andy_J> I don't see how that's suppsed to work!
00:33 <@Andy_J> AHHH!
00:33 <@Andy_J> *boom*
00:34 < Nikky> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan_9_from_Outer_Space is way better.
00:34 < Dam\__> Nikky:  Thanks for that grotesque image, now I will have nightwares.
00:34 < Nikky> No problem.
00:34 < Nikky> Why are you now a liquid retention structure?
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00:36  * Dam\__ finally gets it.
00:36 < Dam\__> Damakaru + laptop.
00:36 <+Netham45> you suck. :P
00:36  * Netham45 disappears.
00:37 < Nikky> !k Netham45 Forced disappearance.
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00:37 <+prime_> i want a laptop so i can use that cool symbol
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00:39 < Nikky> what the hell is up with omnimaga and "never gonna give you up"
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00:39 < Dam\__> I don't ever see that.
00:40 < Nikky> There's some weird obcession with rickrolls
00:40 < Nikky> It's like 2007 all over again.
00:41 <+prime_> http://www.e-imagesite.com/Files/1226087357719119372.jpg
00:42 < Tari> ...what?
00:42  * Dam\__ raises eyebrow.
00:42  * Nikky eats Dam\__ 
00:44 <@E-J> is that laptop which makes it power from water?
00:45 < Dam\__> Yes, I love this dam laptop.
00:49 <+prime_> quote that
00:50  * Nikky quotes prime_'s face
00:50 < Nikky> oooo
00:56 <+prime_> i cant top that
00:56 <@chronomex> prime_: tried a ladder?
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01:33 < Ovan> Can someone point me to the newest stable version of Spasm
01:33 < Ovan> please?
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01:34 < i_c-Y> Ovan: http://tinyurl.com/blva78 
01:35 < Ovan> Thank you i_c-Y
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01:36 <@efneTI92> [snowman] http://jrush.dyndns.org/isaac/
01:36 < Ovan> Can I also ask, what is the main difference between Brass3 and Spasm? I use Brass, but I've heard good things about Spasm
01:37 < Ovan> I just saw the link >.> ;;; None the less, thank you anyway =D
01:37 < i_c-Y> SpAsm is for x86, Brass is for z80?
01:38 < Ovan> Spencer's Spasm?
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01:40 < i_c-Y> oh, different spasm
01:41 < i_c-Y> check revsoft.org
01:41 < i_c-Y> http://svn.revsoft.org/spasm/ has the source
01:41 < i_c-Y> http://www.revsoft.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=256&sid=ccf732c6ac61ec6d8a2a3f1541d351f9
01:42 < i_c-Y> benryves is super cool.
01:46  * Dam\__ goes off to find someone to take him to Wal-Mart.
01:46 < i_c-Y> walk, you pansy
01:47 < Dam\__> Fuckin' thirty degrees out there, and that place is a couple of miles away.
01:47 < i_c-Y> wear a jacket, you pansy
01:48 < Nikky> wuss
01:49 < i_c-Y> im hungry, what should i eat?
01:50 < Nikky> sardines
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01:52 < millinao> pimentos
01:52 <+krisk> herlooo
01:55 <+krisk> im going to kill my friend if he lost their email address
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01:57 < Speler> Hey krisk
01:57 <+krisk> hey@!
01:58 < Speler> What's up?
01:59 <+krisk> we spend the entire evening/night at the cafe drinking beer and there were two girls next to us and we e xchanged email dressed / msn and the waitress people helped us and my friend ordered way too much beer for me to handle on 1 pizza (breakfast lulz)
01:59 <+krisk> and i fell down / over while talking to him on the phone while;é attempting to rid e my bike
02:00 < Speler> Ahaha, nice
02:00 <+krisk> 6yes teeheeehehee
02:01 <+krisk> also we had soem fries
02:01 < Dam\__> *Shivering:*  Fucking hell, it's cold out there.
02:01 < Speler> I haven't eaten in 14 hours
02:01 < Speler> When I got here the dining hall was closed :/
02:01 <@chronomex> hah, fail
02:01 <+krisk> and im waiting for him to get home so i can know their email address (we borowed the waitress guy's  notepad thing) and get you guys some pics if theyre on hyves
02:02 <+krisk> and im on the border of throwing up for the first time due to alcohol
02:02 < Speler> Just do it then
02:03 < Speler> You'll feel better right after
02:03 <+krisk> orr he was assaulted by niggers in the train
02:03 <+krisk> do what?
02:03 < Speler> Throw up
02:03 <+krisk>  nahhhhh im just very dizzy
02:03 < Nikky> Don't care.
02:03 <+krisk> hey nikky : )
02:04 <+krisk> what time is it there in the united stated of obama
02:04 < Speler> 9
02:04 < Nikky> 2am
02:04 <+krisk> nice
02:05 <+krisk> im going to give you guyts the right to call me a dumbass at any time
02:06 < millinao> dumbass
02:06 <+krisk> +1
02:06 < Nikky> We always have.
02:06 < millinao> -1
02:06 <+krisk> true
02:06 <@chronomex> +1
02:06 <+krisk> 3:06 here and my friend isnt responding to sms so i think he's being raped by niggers on the train
02:06 <+krisk> cause he mentioned them when i called him after falling over
02:07 <@chronomex> !k krisk 'niggers' is an offensive word
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02:07 <+prime_> yes, lets not say niggers
02:07 < krisk> yeah ok
02:07 < krisk> sorry
02:07 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v krisk] by Remius
02:07 <+krisk> native dutcvh immogrants
02:07 < millinao> on my tf2 server we kick on N word and the other F word
02:07 < Nikky> fart?
02:07 <+prime_> link
02:07 <+krisk> sorry sorry
02:07 <+prime_> link
02:08 <+prime_> what maps you play?
02:08 < millinao> kicks in tf2 are obviously worse
02:08 < Nikky> stupid ones
02:08 <+krisk> immigrated in the 80s native dutch immogrants
02:08 <@Andy_J> 2fort obv
02:08 < millinao> we play a bunch of customs, then the regulars
02:08 < Nikky> 2fort is for losers
02:09 <+krisk> i dont know any tf2 : (
02:09 <+prime_> 2fort is the worst map ever
02:09 < millinao> 2fort isn't terrible but i don't like it
02:09 < Speler> I need more friends at school lol
02:09 <+krisk> why Speler
02:10 < Speler> Because I have no one to hang out with up here
02:10 <+krisk> : (
02:11 <+krisk> llz i cant even remember what i messaged my friend 10 mins ago
02:11 <+krisk> nor hiow i got home
02:12 < Speler> :P
02:12 <+krisk> huh i took the bike but i cant remember which of the 3 possible routes i took
02:14 < Nikky> So time to TROLL
02:14 <+krisk> im seriously treying to retrace it but no memory of any of the routes
02:15 <+krisk> wooo trollin
02:15 < Dam\__> They see him trollin'; they hatin'...
02:16 <+krisk> they tryin to catch me trollin dirty
02:16 < Nikky> !topic Welcome to #tcpa | 24 hour Trollfest! Ends on Sunday at 1815, PST (GMT -0800) 
02:16 -!- efneTI86 changed the topic of #tcpa to: Welcome to #tcpa | 24 hour Trollfest! Ends on Sunday at 1815, PST (GMT -0800) 
02:16 <+krisk> 1015 am : (
02:16 <+krisk> 0915 am : (
02:16 <+krisk> fixed because lulz +1
02:16 < Nikky> Go crazy.
02:17 < millinao> wait we trollin'?
02:17 < Speler> Apparently
02:17 < millinao> nikky sucks
02:17 <+krisk> nikky is ok
02:17 < Speler> You all suck
02:17 <+krisk> why we trollin, nikky ?
02:18 < Nikky> millinao: Because it's a weekend
02:18 <+krisk> wooo weekend
02:18 < Speler> only two days till I start classes
02:18 < Speler> Not looking foward to having to work again
02:20 <+krisk> my friend should be home by now
02:20 <+krisk> imm gonna cal him
02:21 <+krisk> hes alive hahah
02:32 < sir_lewk> "Shallow Grave" is reaaaaaaally good
02:32 < sir_lewk> is there anything that Danny Boyle touches that doesn't turn to gold?
02:33 < millinao> lead
02:33 < sir_lewk> I dunno man
02:33 < sir_lewk> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0111149/ watch it
02:34 < Storm\_> your mom
02:38 < sir_lewk> yes. yes my mom.
02:38 < millinao> fuuck i should be practicing cello right now
02:38 < Speler> She's hawt
02:38 < millinao> but i dun wanna
02:38 <+prime_> do it
02:38 < Speler> Cello is a cool instrument
02:39 < millinao> i have to learn le cygne by next week
02:40 < millinao> good thing the piece only sounds as badass as you feel like being when you play it
02:45 < Storm\_> god why canI never get my parallel link to work
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03:02 < Speler> Woo, poporn for dinner
03:04 < sir_lewk> vary niace!
03:04 <@chronomex> though not terribly filling
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03:08  * Dam\__ wonders why GNOME/Nautilus would put single-click mode under "File Management."
03:09 < Dam\__> Doesn't that sound more like something that goes under "Mouse?"
03:09 < Milyardo> Because if it an option of the file manager?
03:09 < Milyardo> and not all GNOME apps?
03:09 < Milyardo> *it is
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03:25 <@efneTI92> [rivereye] Is it time to go fishing?
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03:31 < linko47> anyone had luck using the ti-89 in linux?
03:33 < i_c-Y> did you use tilp II?
03:33 < i_c-Y> people use their 89's under linux.
03:33 < i_c-Y> and what kind of link cable are yo uusing
03:33 < linko47> it has a usb on one side, and the headphone jack style on the other end
03:33 < linko47> the connectors are grey, and the cable is silver, in the middle there is a clear box with a circuit board inside
03:34 < linko47> i tried tilp, but i don't know how to make it recognize the calculator
03:34 < linko47> at the bottom of the window, it said not connected
03:36 < linko47> maybe the calculator needs to be put into a certain mode first or something?
03:37 < linko47> ah, it is the ti graph link cable
03:38 < i_c-Y> ok
03:38 < i_c-Y> what version of tilp are you running and are you running it as root?
03:39 < linko47> TiLP - Version 6.81, and as root
03:39 < i_c-Y> use tilp II
03:40 < linko47> ah, ok
03:41 < Storm\_> woot my parallel link jsut magicly worked
03:42 < Ovan> http://tinyurl.com/5gcsjb
03:42 < Storm\_> http://lpg.ticalc.org
03:43 < i_c-Y> linko47: get the rpm's or whatever from calcforge
03:43 < i_c-Y> or build it from source.
03:44 < i_c-Y> http://repo.calcforge.org/
03:44 < i_c-Y> what distro are you on?
03:44 < linko47> debian
03:44 < i_c-Y> ok then add calcforge and get the rpms from there
03:44 < linko47> debian uses .deb's btw
03:45 < linko47> suse/fedora use .rpms
03:45 < linko47> great links though, thank you
03:45 < sir_lewk> calcforge has debs too
03:45 < sir_lewk> debain debs
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03:45 < linko47> i'm downloading the source from sourceforge right now
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03:46 < sir_lewk> http://repo.calcforge.org/debian/ that'd probably be easier
03:46 < Storm\_> x-chat just randomly crashedon me
03:46 < Ovan> Maybe you did something it didn't like
03:47 < i_c-Y> did you right click a link?
03:47 < Storm\_> nope
03:47 < Storm\_> tilp crashed right before it so I think it was related
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03:51 < linko47> well, i'm compiling from source, and I'm missing many dependencies. hehe, i suppose those are needed for the program to work!!!
03:52 < sir_lewk> yeah, it has quite a few deps
03:52 < linko47> im still getting the deps fo libticables
03:52 < sir_lewk> is there a reason you are choosing to build it yourself?  normally you'd tend to avoid that because it kind of clutters up your filesystem...
03:53 < linko47> i'm not a big fan of adding repo's i'm not familiar with
03:53 < linko47> but I may need to resort to that
03:53 < linko47> ya, this is getting old. to the debs!
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03:54 < sir_lewk> whoa, did you guys know firefly is on hulu.com?
03:54 < sir_lewk> ...awesome!
03:55 < linko47> it makes me so sad that it stopped....
03:55 < sir_lewk> yeah :(
03:55 < sir_lewk> with out a doubt my favorite tv series ever
03:56 <+prime_> arrested development
03:58 < sir_lewk> I only saw that once or twice
03:58 < linko47> well, tilp2 is installed
03:58 < sir_lewk> I'm not huge on commedy though
03:59 < i_c-Y> ReDeEm: hows the new pc?
04:00 < linko47> i've got it running now, yet i'm not so sure what to do with it..
04:00 < ReDeEm> i_c-Y: i dont have a tuner card yet
04:01 < ReDeEm> so, its great for youtube... :)
04:01 < Storm\_> linko47 which os are you on?
04:01 < linko47> debian ilnux
04:01 < i_c-Y> debian, Storm\_ 
04:01 < linko47> *linux
04:01 < i_c-Y> so connect your cable, start up tilp 2, hit connect.
04:01 < linko47> there is no connect button though
04:01 < Storm\_> ok I know ubuntu requires you to do some permissions stuff to get usb working
04:02 < linko47> hrm
04:02 < linko47> you know what!!!!! i'm going to boot up my laptop into xp
04:02 < linko47> problem solved!!!
04:02 < Storm\_> right click the left part of the screen
04:02 < sir_lewk> there you go :)
04:02 < Storm\_> and select change device
04:02 < Storm\_> and the hit the search thingy
04:02 < Storm\_> double click on your calc, done
04:03 < linko47> haha, sweet
04:03 < linko47> thank you Storm\_
04:04 < Storm\_> now if only I could get my parallel linkto wrk for more than five min :(
04:04 < linko47> do you guys have a favorite text viewer?
04:04 < linko47> i hope you get it working storm
04:04 < i_c-Y> vi , cat, less ?
04:04 < linko47> i mean, for the calculator
04:05 < Storm\_> gah the conector wasn't seated right :(
04:06 < Storm\_> hmm it doesn't seem to like my 86 but w/e its way faster than any of the usb link cables
04:07 < Storm\_> or maybe not :(
04:08 < linko47> so how do I actually move something to the calculator?
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04:11 < Storm\_> click and drag from the right side
04:11 < Storm\_> you need to navigate to it of course
04:17 < linko47> hrm
04:17 < linko47> ti-connect works
04:23 < linko47> what ti program do you guys use for looking at text files?
04:23 < Storm\_> I don't have an 89 so IDK
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04:24 < Storm\_> lol maybe glk can hlp you he has much data on TI-89 in MATH
04:25 < sir_lewk> glk does math stuff with his 89, not programs
04:25 < Tari> just write one :)
04:25 < Tari> it can't be too hard..
04:25 < Tari> or maybe I should
04:26 < i_c-Y> do you have a ti-89?
04:26 < Tari> no
04:26 < Tari> but I have tiemu
04:26 < glk>  Get a ti-89t
04:28 < i_c-Y> krisk would like this vanilla ninja group.
04:28 < i_c-Y> the girls anyway
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04:31 < ReDeEm> So, everyone here near a TV, turn on Comedy Central. It is possibly the least-funny comedian ever.
04:32 < linko47> so no txt viewer?
04:32 < linko47> :-(
04:33 < Storm\_> I'm sure theres one on ticalc
04:33 < linko47> hehe
04:33 < Storm\_> I know theres an ebook reader
04:33 < linko47> i gots lots of digging to do then
04:33 < Storm\_> yep
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04:35 < millinao> ReDeEm: george carlin?
04:35 < Tari> he's dead
04:35 < Tari> so I guess that wouldn't be very funny...
04:40 < sir_lewk> I just almost bite through my hand :O
04:42 < millinao> gj
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05:16 < ports> fuck stupid
05:16 < ports> AMD Phenom II Overclocked to 6.5GHz With Liquid Helium -220C 
05:17 < Dam\__> Yeesh.
05:17 < Dam\__> Who did that?
05:20 < Nikky> netham
05:20 < Dam\__> Why does that not surprise me a bit?  :P
05:21 < sir_lewk> where the hell did netham get liquid helium at?
05:21 < Nikky> stole it
05:21 < Nikky> like everything else he owns
05:21 < sir_lewk> liquid nitrogen maybe?
05:24 < millinao> lol that's rediculous
05:24 < sir_lewk> -220 C is colder than liquid nitrogen
05:25 < ports> its on Digg.com
05:25 < ports> im just saying
05:25 < sir_lewk> but warmer than liquid helium
05:25 < ports> that was fucking dumb.. sure a proof of concept is cool.. but there was nothing to learn from that
05:25 < millinao> except pure awesomeness
05:25 < sir_lewk> helium is like 4 K
05:26 < ports> thats not really awesome
05:26 < sir_lewk> and a bitch to get
05:26 < millinao> i mean you have to be a badass to cool your computer with a fucking gas
05:26 < ports> millinao, its not a gas.
05:26 < sir_lewk> :P
05:26 < millinao> i know, but it usually is
05:26 < ports> hold on
05:26 < ports> that was a really stupid statement
05:26 < ports> go kill yourself pleas
05:26 < ports> please.
05:26 < millinao> not really
05:26 < ports> we all cool our computers with GAS.
05:26 < sir_lewk> I drink steam.
05:26 < sir_lewk> granted, it's usually a liquid
05:26 < sir_lewk> :P
05:26 < millinao> hahaha shut up
05:27 < ports> sir_lewk, kill yourself too
05:27 < millinao> you know what I meant
05:27 < ports> millinao, no i didnt understand your stupid statement
05:27 < Dam\__> I am so fucking bored right now....
05:27 < sir_lewk> someone give me a link to this netham thing
05:27 < sir_lewk> I want to laugh at it
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05:28 < Dam\__> sir_lewk:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wB0JodKgZ0A
05:30 < millinao> he claims it's at 3K
05:30 < ports> ?
05:30 < millinao> or, it can go as low as 3K
05:31 < sir_lewk> man, that's not netham
05:31 < sir_lewk> different types of helium boil at different temps
05:31 < sir_lewk> 3k-5k
05:32 < millinao> i like how none of them are wearing any kind of safety gear whatsoever
05:32 < sir_lewk> yeah, they are just gamer tards that probably got a C in highschool chemistry
05:33 < millinao> tard
05:34 < sir_lewk> and wtf is a "3dmark"?
05:35 < sir_lewk> sounds about as objective as a bogomip
05:36 < sir_lewk> bogomips        : 4653.45
05:36 < sir_lewk> wooo
05:37 < sir_lewk> lets pour liquid nitrogen on my laptop and see if we can get it to 10000
05:37 < Dam\__> Second comment nails it right on the head:  "These guys seriously need to get [laid].  WTF is this even supposed to prove?  How does it help society?  How does it better them as human beings, aside from enlarging their e-penis?"
05:37 < sir_lewk> meh, that guy is even stupider
05:38 < sir_lewk> pursuit of knowledge for knowledges sake is the most noble of possible endevours
05:39 < sir_lewk> granted, they do need to get laid
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05:44 < Tari> why bother with 10000 bogomips
05:44 < Tari> 9000 is all that matters
05:45 < Tari> not like you'll notice >9000 :P
05:52 < Tari> http://assets.couponfu.com/lb/generate/img/coupons/18/711/208_netham45_escort_coupon.jpg
05:53 < Tari> you're all no fun
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05:59  * Dam\__ is laughing.  0% [oo-------] 100%
06:00 < Tari> I should add his picture to that
06:01 < Tari> need to find a copy that isn't shooped
06:01 < Dam\__> The pimp one?
06:01 < Tari> ?
06:01 < Tari> don't think I've seen that
06:01  * Dam\__ digs though image cache.
06:02 < sir_lewk> lmao Tari
06:03 < Dam\__> Aww, I don't have it anymore.
06:04 < Tari> I'm seeing how him firing his lazer works out
06:04 < sir_lewk> I'm a fan of this Netham45 picture: http://www.cs.drexel.edu/~jlg95/stuff/netham45.jpeg
06:04 < sir_lewk> yeah :)
06:05 < Tari> http://assets.couponfu.com/lb/generate/img/coupons/279/825/208_netham45_escort_coupon.jpg
06:05 < Dam\__> Oh, wait, never mind, I do.
06:05 < Dam\__> http://omploader.org/vMTY3OQ.jpg
06:05 < sir_lewk> oh damn yes
06:06 < Tari> imma go crop that
06:06 < sir_lewk> man, how old is that?
06:07  * Dam\__ digs though cache again.
06:07 < Dam\__> "Tuesday, March 25 2008 at 11:19:42 AM."
06:08 < Dam\__> Probably older, though.
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06:08 < Dam\__> Wait, no, "Date Taken: 2006:10:02 17:36:01."
06:08 < Tari> that's quality
06:08 < Tari> http://www.couponfu.com/lb/generate/?c=345-972-208_netham45_escort_coupon
06:10 < Dam\__> (Hm, my image cache sure got small.  It used to be three or four gigabytes, now it is just 444MB...)
06:10 < Tari> !t Welcome to #tcpa | 24 hour Trollfest! Ends on Sunday at 1815, PST (GMT -0800) | http://tinyurl.com/netpimp
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06:10 <@Andy_J> oh lawd.
06:12 < sir_lewk> Tari.  I love you.
06:12 < sir_lewk> that is pure genius
06:13  * Tari takes a bow
06:13 < Tari> I'm here all day tomorrow
06:13 < Tari> and now, ->bed
06:13 < i_c-Y> lol!
06:14 < sir_lewk> haha
06:15  * Dam\__ wonders what other interesting things he's got cached...
06:15 < ports> hey
06:15 < ports> do any of you japs read turkish?
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06:16 < Dam\__> "Boom!  Headshot!"
06:16 < i_c-Y> second time today i think
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06:17 <@Andy_J> really?
06:17 <@Andy_J> should it be longer then?
06:18 < sir_lewk> Dam\__: tons and tons of pr0n
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06:18 < ports> ...
06:18 < ports> that wasnt amusin
06:19 < Dam\__> sir_lewk:  Apparently, 95% of all my cache is animated GIFs and GIF movies.
06:19 < sir_lewk> lawdy
06:19 < sir_lewk> any kinky stuff?
06:20 < i_c-Y> Andy_J: probably. 
06:20 < sir_lewk> soo...
06:20 < sir_lewk> turns out my ~/.thumbnails is not exactly sfw ;P
06:23  * Dam\__ hears someone playing "Crank That Soulja Boy," and prepares flamethrower.
06:24 < i_c-Y> why dont you just go to sleep
06:25 < sir_lewk> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdItwaLrv1U I have this song stuck in my head
06:25 < i_c-Y> friggin filefront.
06:26 < sir_lewk> lolfileront
06:26 < sir_lewk> yet another reason closed source sucks
06:26 < Dam\__> i_c-Y:  *Points to objects vibrating across table from neighbor's music.*
06:26 < sir_lewk> opensource stuff can get decent free hosting like sourceforge
06:26 < Dam\__> That's why.
06:27 < Dam\__> So, I'm awake, and bored.
06:27 < sir_lewk> see how many pushups you can do before you collapse and can't lift yourself
06:27 < sir_lewk> feels good, I did 55 early tonight
06:27 < sir_lewk> <== fat :(
06:29  * Dam\__ thinks about sneaking Arch Linux onto his roommate's PC... *Evil chuckle.*
06:29 < Dam\__> (Nah.)
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06:32 < Dam\__> I tried to teach him how to install Arch Linux in a virtual machine.  That didn't go so well.  Took an hour and some number of minutes to get him past the installation process.  Wasn't so enthusiastic when it threw him back at a terminal after installation.  :P
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06:33 < sir_lewk> heh
06:34 < sir_lewk> when I'm trying to get linux running for a nontechnical person for whatever the reason, I make them leave the area until it's working fully
06:34 < sir_lewk> otherwise I feel like I have to avoid terminals or techy looking stuff so that I don't scare them
06:38 < ports> i dont use linux at all
06:39 < ports> i had a professor in college that used to make powerpoint type presentations in linux and print them to pdf...
06:39 < ports> thats somtehing i would like to be able to do
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06:43 < sir_lewk> should be easy
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06:43 < sir_lewk> is in linux anyways, I guess windows doesn't do that kind of stuff
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06:58 < ports> yay mother fuckers
06:59 < ports> the hulu for xbmc plugin now works
06:59 < ports> i wish my hotel had better internet.. because theni could just use hulu to watch tv
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07:05  * Dam\__ hugs his seven megabyte-per-second connection.
07:05 < Dam\__> (Even though the it sucks when it gets throttled.)
07:07 < millinao> wtf
07:07 < millinao> do want
07:09 < ports> yeah
07:10 < ports> usually at the hotel. one of the other guests will suck up all the bandwidth and i cant even watch a youtube video
07:10 < ports> i did a bandwidth test.. and it was like 768kbps down..
07:10 < Nikky> Dam\__: I thought it was like 4kb/s
07:10 < Dam\__> Nikky:  That's what it gets throttled to, when it does.
07:11 < Dam\__> Especially when I'm downloading something where there is just one connection, and it is not segmented.
07:15  * Dam\__ now loves shoopdawhoop.com, and goes off to update his music collection.
07:16 < Dam\__> There's one Darkwave/EBM-sounding song on there that I want, and can't find the title of.
07:20 < ports> theres a samsung 22" monitor for $150
07:20 < ports> im really tempted to buy 2
07:21 < Dam\__> Do it.
07:21 < ports> meh
07:22 < ports> im living in a hotel right now and traveling a lot..
07:22 < ports> i actually have my desktop computer in my hotel.. but i only took a 17" lcd.. because traveling with anything more is a bit much
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07:40 <@efneTI92> [Netham45] Narf!
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07:41 < millinao> hi
07:42 <+Netham45> Heya
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08:28 < millinao> lol, family matters is on and about peer pressure
08:28 < sir_lewk> peer pressure is awesome
08:28 < millinao> i like when these sitcoms tackle teenager issues
08:28 < millinao> it's hilarious
08:29 < sir_lewk> what else besides peer pressure could be responsible for so much pot smoking?
08:29 < millinao> it was also about objectification of women
08:36 < sir_lewk> vaaary niice!
08:36 < sir_lewk> </borat voice>
08:37 < sir_lewk> oooh, mad max is on
08:37 < sir_lewk> I have not seen this yet
09:09 <@E-J> sir_lewk: mad max 1?
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09:15 < zeropod> soo
09:19 < zeropod> why the hell would an iPod charger's cord be like, 2ft long and not removable?
09:30 < Spengo> apple sucks
09:32 < zeropod> this is not an apple producy
09:32 < zeropod> -y +t
09:32 < zeropod> third party charger, apple's charger works with the usb cables, so it could be as long as 28ft or so
09:35 < zeropod> but this one is designed for... idk what
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09:38 < millinao> why would you want something longer than 2 feet
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10:11 < zeropod> yup
10:14 < zeropod> yay my sidekick slide was shipped thursday!
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13:33 <+krisk> trolltrolltroll
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15:25 < zeropod> rawr
15:36 < zeropod> . ... ... .. .....
15:41 <+krisk> rawrrr
15:46 < zeropod> no
15:48 <+krisk> rawrar?
15:48 < zeropod> sorry, nope
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16:07 <+krisk> LAGOS (Reuters) – Police in Nigeria are holding a goat on suspicion of attempted armed robbery.
16:07 <+krisk> Vigilantes took the black and white beast to the police saying it was an armed robber who had used black magic to transform himself into a goat to escape arrest after trying to steal a Mazda 323.
16:11 < i_c-Y> haha
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17:55 < Nikky> Apple sucks
17:55 <+krisk> http://blog.intego.com/2009/01/22/mac-trojan-horse-osxtrojaniservicesa-found-in-pirated-apple-iwork-09/
17:56 <@E-J> http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/01/19/hfo-emoticon/
17:58 < Nikky> I love the cityroom blog
17:58 <+krisk> woah, they really liked, commas; back then
18:04 <+krisk> http://zip.4chan.org/fit/src/1232905876589.jpg
18:06 < i_c-Y> old news, krisk 
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18:25 <@efneTI92> [Storm|wrk] Yes rivereye, it is time to go fishing.
18:37 <@Andy_J> krisk: and trojans aren't found in pirated windows apps all the time?
18:37 <+krisk> ?
18:37 <@Andy_J> that isn't news at all
18:37 <+krisk> so?
18:38 <+prime_> emoticon has emo in it
18:41 <+krisk> I linked it because I just read about it and it was related to the subject in "Apple sucks" (which also isn't news at all) said by Nikky
18:42 <+krisk> just because it was also about Apple stuff, not with the intention of trying to bring news or backing up his point, so no need to get $120 iPanties in a bunch
18:43 < i_c-Y> i think the point of the "news" is the false sense of security mac users are lulled into by being "not windows"
18:45 < zeropod> apple virui stuff?
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19:08 <+prime_> i know some people who switched to mac
19:08 <+prime_> hated it
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19:10 <@E-J> most people i know, have liked it, some said just that you have to think differently
19:10 < zeropod> yeah
19:10 < zeropod> it's very different somethimes
19:10 < zeropod> *times
19:10 <@E-J> one friend have iphone 3g but he doesn't like it much
19:11 <@E-J> he only uses it because it's work phone and he got it free
19:11 < zeropod> I love the iPhone to be honest
19:11 <@E-J> apparently that phone has several bugs
19:12 <@Andy_J> and windows mobile phones don't?
19:12 <@E-J> Andy_J: in finland, no-one uses windows mobile phones :)
19:12 <@E-J> but s60 has bugs as well
19:12 < zeropod> E-J: just a few bugs?
19:13 <@E-J> zeropod: 3g doesn't go always on etc
19:13 <@E-J> i don't know all of the things
19:13 < zeropod> iphone 3g has a LOT of bugs lol
19:15 <@E-J> if he is in same network with other people who have for example nokia s60 phone, nokia shows there is 3g network, iphone can't find it
19:15 < zeropod> yeah
19:15 < zeropod> I had the same issues here with my buddies
19:17 < sir_lewk> RAAAAAWR
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19:17  * sir_lewk awakens
19:17 < sir_lewk> good morning #tcpa
19:17 <@E-J> and once he made it to iBrick but luckily there was one user that has used mac before and knew how to reboot it
19:18 <@E-J> mac/ipod/iphone
19:18 <+krisk> lo sir_lewk
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19:20 < Zarel> How fast is memcpy?
19:20 <+krisk> ~20mph
19:21 < zeropod> naaah
19:21 < zeropod> 20kmph
19:21 <+krisk> oh yeah sorry
19:21 < Zarel> Like, how long should a memcpy of 20 KB take?
19:21 < Zarel> memmove, I mean.
19:32 <@Andy_J> depends on the architecture
19:32 < Zarel> TI 68k calculator?
19:32 <@Andy_J> well IIRC you can't copy ram-ram on a 68k
19:33 <@Andy_J> so that'd be at least 4 ops per byte, if it has to do it for each byte
19:33 <@Andy_J> run it through a debugger, see how many clocks it takes, and do math?
19:33 < Zarel> ...wait, so how does TIGCC implement memcpy?
19:34 < Storm|wrk> I'm looking for a suggestion on a good computer case
19:34 < Storm|wrk> any thoughts?
19:34 < Zarel> Whichever one is cheapest?
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19:34 < Zarel> Case really isn't the most important part of a computer.
19:34 <@Andy_J> why don't you look at the assembly it generates?
19:35 <+krisk> get one that's sturdy and quiet
19:35 < Zarel> Because I can't read assembly. :(
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19:35 <@Andy_J> that isn't an excuse :p
19:35 < Zarel> That's one of the things on my "to do" list for years.
19:37 < i_c-Y> i need a new wallpaper
19:38 <@E-J> Zarel: i removed assembly from there when i started on tkk
19:38 <@E-J> because i don't study cs
19:38 < i_c-Y> Storm|wrk: how big?
19:38 < Storm|wrk> mid tower
19:39 < i_c-Y> centurion 5 is a good choice
19:39 < Zarel> TKK?
19:39 < Storm|wrk> ok I'll see if I can get a parts list up for you guys to look at in a bit
19:39 <@E-J> i_c-Y: i have this as wallpaper http://kuvaboxi.fi/mediaobjects/orig/pub/2008/11/30/8143010478545496417orig.jpg
19:39 <@E-J> Zarel: helsinki university of technology
19:40 < i_c-Y> youd think youd call it HuT
19:40 < i_c-Y> or HUT
19:41 <@E-J> official acronym is TKK
19:41 <@E-J> :)
19:41 < Zarel> Yeah. South China University of Technology is SCUT.
19:41 < Zarel> You and your Eurocentric acronyms.
19:41 <@E-J> it was HUT in english some years ago, but nowdays it's tkk
19:42 <+krisk> http://24.132.239.72/wp/
19:42 < i_c-Y> http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/2927/screenshotft8.png is my desktop
19:42 <@E-J> you can see from my host that it still exists
19:42 <@E-J> www.hut.fi etc
19:42 < i_c-Y> what does tkk stand for?
19:43 < i_c-Y> TKK - Teknillinen korkeakoulu
19:43 < i_c-Y> damn!
19:43 <@E-J> yep
19:43 <+krisk> cool wp ix
19:43 <+krisk> cool wp i_c-Y
19:43 < i_c-Y> though my school's full name is longer :)
19:43 <@E-J> i_c-Y: in english it's about "technical university"
19:44 < i_c-Y> "The Cooper Union for the Advancement of Science and Art"
19:44 <+krisk> would be better without the smoke
19:44 < Zarel> Cooper Union?
19:44 < Zarel> Isn't that where KermMartian goes?
19:44 <+krisk> http://24.132.239.72/wp/1230388045367.jpg my current wp
19:45 < Zarel> See, when I see "WP", I think "WordPress"
19:45 <+krisk> my other wallpapers are in there too
19:45 <@E-J> though we are soon going together with HSE and TAIK so it will be then "Aalto University"
19:46 <@E-J> Zarel: i think word perfect
19:46 < Zarel> i_c-Y: Are you Kerm? <_<
19:46 < Zarel> Well, to be exact, I think, in order: WordPress, Wikipedia, WordPerfect.
19:46 < Zarel> I didn't even think of "Wallpaper" until I clicked the link.
19:46 <@E-J> wikipedia is wiki
19:46 < Zarel> ...it is.
19:47 < i_c-Y> Zarel: no?
19:48 < i_c-Y> kerm does go there though.
19:51 <@E-J> Zarel: btw, i think it's better that every university have acronym in their own language than in english because for example universities there are several universities that are TUT in english
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19:53 <@E-J> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TUT
19:58 < Storm|wrk> ok this is what I have so far http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=7932274
19:59 < Storm|wrk> the PSU and Case are part of a combo deal
19:59 <@E-J> why vista business=
19:59 <@E-J> ?
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20:01 < Storm|wrk> its not for me
20:02 <@E-J> ok then
20:03 <@E-J> no need to say anything else
20:03 < sir_lewk> E-J: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DU
20:03 < sir_lewk> my school ;)
20:03 < sir_lewk> granted, nobody actually says DU
20:03 <@E-J> sir_lewk: awww, you are in disney university
20:03 < sir_lewk> lol
20:03 < sir_lewk> drexel ;P
20:04 <@E-J> apparently there are only 2 universities that have or have used HUT
20:05 <@E-J> tkk redirects straight to correct
20:05 < Storm|wrk> so does anyone have suggestions for that setup or do you guys think its good as is
20:06 <@E-J> "TKK was also known under the abbreviations HUT and TH from its English language and Swedish language names, but in 2005 a decision was made to officially solely use the abbreviation TKK for branding reasons."
20:06 <@E-J> Storm|wrk: looks fine for me, though i haven't bought whole desktop computer in this decade
20:07 < Storm|wrk> lol
20:07 < Storm|wrk> yeah I wish socket 1366 procs weren't so expensive
20:07 <@E-J> well i have bought one, but it wasn't for me and it was almost cheapest available
20:07 < sir_lewk> my last desktop computer (last computer actually), was a PII
20:07 <@E-J> and it has now linux in it
20:08 < sir_lewk> 244 MHz, 256 MB ram iirc
20:08 < sir_lewk> wow
20:08 <@E-J> this computer i know have, have only 2 orginal parts from that one which was bought to my brothers in 2000
20:08 < sir_lewk> that sounds worse than I remember :O
20:08 <@E-J> floppy drive and soundcard
20:09 <@E-J> case was changed after some update when it weren't big enough
20:13 < i_c-Y> Storm|wrk: id go with a nicer psu
20:13 < i_c-Y> and a bigger case.
20:13 < i_c-Y> ie. a pp&c silencer or corsair
20:13 < Storm|wrk> links pl0x
20:14 <@E-J> were do you need nicer than 650W psu?
20:14 <@E-J> where*
20:14 < i_c-Y> nobody said i was going for more wattage.
20:14 < Storm|wrk> that case and pus are part of a combo deal thats why I went with them but if you think something else would be better give me some links please
20:14 < Storm|wrk> psu*
20:15 <@E-J> i thought one problem that my computer is sometimes unstable was the reason i have only 400W psu
20:15 <@E-J> or was this 350W
20:15 < i_c-Y> given that the PP&C silencer 750 is cheaper, you might want to opt for that
20:16 < i_c-Y> or the fancier and cheaper 750 TX from corsair (which is more expensive than the silencer but is one huge rail)
20:17 <+prime_> rail as in rail gun?
20:18 <+prime_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Electric_gun.jpg
20:19 < i_c-Y> anyhow, Storm|wrk , what is forcing you to go with a Core i7?
20:19 < Storm|wrk> well i figured I want to get the newest for this guy so he could upgrade later
20:20 < Storm|wrk> you thing LGA775 would be better for now?
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20:20 < i_c-Y> wait for a price drop on core i7 or go lga 775.
20:20 <+prime_> i7 is a different socket?
20:20 < Storm|wrk> ok then I'll go 775
20:21 < i_c-Y> yes, prime_ 
20:21 <+prime_> lame
20:21 < Storm|wrk> 1366
20:21 < i_c-Y> they also did away with the northbridge.
20:21 <+prime_> h
20:21 <+prime_> ah
20:21 < i_c-Y> (well, a separate northbridge chip - its on the cpu package)
20:21 <+prime_> on the processor now?
20:21 < Barrett> lame! that was my favorite bridge!
20:21 <+prime_> yea me too
20:22 < Storm|wrk> So i_c-y you have a suggestion for mobo and cpu then?
20:22 < i_c-Y> Storm|wrk: does the person have to upgrade now?
20:22 <+prime_> i love my e8400
20:22 < Storm|wrk> well they want it pretty soon 
20:23 < Barrett> I'm waiting for either better or less expensive i7s... that's when I'm upgrading...
20:23 < Barrett> unfortunately intel is gonna start concentrating on i5
20:23 <+prime_> although production of that chip is running down hafnium supplies
20:23 < Storm|wrk> they've been bugging me for a while to get a parts list set up
20:23 < Storm|wrk> I'll email him and ask though
20:24 < Barrett> so I started messing with GD::Graph, and look what I came up with: http://calcg.org/graphband.png
20:24 < i_c-Y> if he can delay for a possible price drop, i7 is a good bet
20:25 <@E-J> i think my next upgrade is like previous ones, current processor and/or mobo brokes -> new mobo and processor
20:25 <@E-J> and most likely new memory
20:25 < Storm|wrk> Ok I'll email him saying I think he should wait and then I'll see what he says.
20:25 <@E-J> and maybe new gpu
20:25 < i_c-Y> note that the price of entry to the core i7 club is rougly 300 for proc + 250 to 300 for mobo + 200 to 300 on ram to begin with.
20:25 < i_c-Y> actually the ram is a lot cheaper than that
20:26 <+prime_> its all ddr3 ram?
20:26 < i_c-Y> ddr3 triple channel
20:26 < Barrett> you could put together an i7 system for under 800..
20:26 < Barrett> it's not terribly expensive...
20:26 < Storm|wrk> yeah I have 6GB of ddr3 for less than that
20:26 <+prime_> but a step down is still good, and not expensive
20:26 < i_c-Y> and you got shitty ddr3
20:27 < Storm|wrk> really?
20:27 < Storm|wrk> Hmm let me look at that again
20:27 < i_c-Y> Barrett: well shit. dell released a core i7 studio xps nearly on launch for under 950, and so have other integrators ie. ibuypower and stuff.
20:31 < Storm|wrk> there I went with some better ram
20:32 < Storm|wrk> Corsair has always done well for me
20:32 < Storm|wrk> I'll send him the wish list and see what he says
20:33 < i_c-Y> pick a bigger case
20:33 < i_c-Y> ie antec 900
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20:35 <+prime_> whats with that gfx card?
20:35 < i_c-Y> its a workstation card
20:35 < i_c-Y> for CAD and stuff
20:35 < i_c-Y> the base one , allows gpu acceleration
20:36 < i_c-Y> modded ati radeon hd 46xx i believe
20:37 < Storm|wrk> yeah but I may get a HD 3870 and use RBE to turn it into a workstation card
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20:38 <@efneTI92> [leofox] All we do in hell is play DDR!
20:38 < Storm|wrk> he wants it for solidworks, stupid RealView proprietary shit
20:39 < ryantmer> "Oh wow. Lasers improve everything. Well, except Alderaan."
20:39 < ryantmer> XD
20:43 < Storm|wrk> ok I've sent him the current wish list and I'll see what he says about the graphics card and the CPU
20:49 < i_c-Y> Storm|wrk: modding it looks like a good idea given the memory bottleneck on the card you chose
20:50 < Storm|wrk> yeah I'll most likely do that
20:50 < Storm|wrk> it'll also save quite a bit of cash
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20:53 <@E-J> http://naurunappula.com/kuvat/334405/Black_Kid%27s_Computer_Desk
20:56 < i_c-Y> old picture is old
20:56 <@E-J> when it's on naurunappula, it's old
20:57 <@E-J> so i don't want to hear that you have seen that before
20:57 < i_c-Y> then turn off your text to speech software.
20:57 < leofox> what the shit does narunepapellenane mean anyway
20:57 <@E-J> maybe someone hasn't
20:57 < leofox> "old stuff from the internet"
20:57 <@E-J> leofox: "laught button"
21:02 < sir_lewk> cramps :(
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21:17 <+krisk> http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/376761/b429cf56/shame_on_the_netherlands.html
21:17 <+krisk> : (
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21:25 < sir_lewk> oh wow krisk, that sucks
21:25 <@chronomex> what is it?
21:25 < sir_lewk> the netherlands hates free speach :(
21:26 <@E-J> speech
21:26 <+krisk> our latest version of failitics is messing up our freedoms
21:26 <@chronomex> oh awesome
21:26 <@E-J> krisk: is it crime if you say in netherlands that for example "jesus is gay"?
21:27 <+krisk> nah i dont think so
21:27 < sir_lewk> from what he is saying, I wouldn't doubt it
21:27 <+krisk> although it is the christian parties that are removing our freedoms
21:27 <@E-J> though jesus is prophet in islam
21:28 < sir_lewk> you guys need an obama ;P
21:28 <+krisk> yeah our obama got shot and killed shortly before elections about 8 years ago
21:28 <@E-J> pim fortuin?
21:28 <+krisk> yeah
21:29 <@E-J> i thought he was populist
21:29 < sir_lewk> populist?
21:29 <@E-J> sir_lewk: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Populism
21:29 <+krisk> and obama isnt?
21:30 <@E-J> in one way he is too
21:30 < sir_lewk> hmm
21:30 <+krisk> im no political genius but i think the comparison is pretty good
21:31 <+krisk> pim fortuyn was demonised by the media/christian political parties because he was going to change things in politics and stand up against religious influences
21:31 < sir_lewk> I'd say as a general principle, us democrats are more populist than republicans, though in practice they arn't really different
21:31 <+krisk> now all we have is geert wilders, a screaming nutjob who's only in politics to scream and be a nutjob
21:32 <@E-J> krisk: well in finnish media he was shown as typical populist, who is against imigrants and good speaker
21:32 < sir_lewk> how often do you have elections over there?
21:32 < leofox> it makes no sense to sue an elected politician because of his opinion
21:32 <@E-J> though he was gay, which isn't common
21:32 <+krisk> well the media werent very accurate on his political views, they were more complicated and realistic
21:32 < leofox> what is this, a dictatorship
21:33 <+krisk> facism leofox
21:33 < leofox> mosques are being built everywhere
21:33 < leofox> our own politcians call for gassing jews
21:33 < sir_lewk> fascism is making a comeback all over the world
21:34 < leofox> and now it's normal if some regilious nutjob doesnt even want to shake hands and demands respect for being a nutjob
21:35 < sir_lewk> I refuse to respect people that do not respect me
21:36 <+krisk> i know theyre still busy working on removing freedoms that made this country famous
21:36 < i_c-Y> you must respect nobody then, sir_lewk 
21:36 < sir_lewk> I respect you guys because yall are sexy :P
21:36 < leofox> you have a good point sir_lewk
21:36 < leofox> islam doesnt give respect
21:36 < leofox> it just demands it
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21:37 <@E-J> sir_lewk: here it's: every 4th year is parliament election (last time 2007), every 4th year also city council elections (last time 2008), every 5th year european union parliament elections (next time this year) and every 6th year presidential election (last time 2006)
21:37 < sir_lewk> yup, respect is not a right, it is something to be earned
21:37 <+krisk> i think the christian nutjobs in our government are a bigger threat right now than islam though
21:37 <+krisk> with their stupidity
21:37 < sir_lewk> E-J: ah, ok
21:38 <@E-J> krisk: yes, religion and politics should never be mixed together
21:38 < Dam\__> (Oh, joy.  Five chapters of math homework to do today.)
21:38 < i_c-Y> good to know people sell used toothbrushes
21:38 < sir_lewk> christian nutjobs in the us are mostly harmless, unless abortion and drugs are big issues to you
21:38 < leofox> krisk I think religion is almost fully to blame for all the freedoms we've lost
21:38 < sir_lewk> just annoying as hell
21:38 < i_c-Y> Dam\__: i have a bunch of math homework to do too
21:38 < leofox> minister of health outlawing shrooms because he thinks they are scary and yucky
21:38 <+krisk> thats what they want you to think sir_lewk
21:38  * Dam\__ goes off to try to find a graphing calculator to borrow from someone for a day.
21:39 <@E-J> sir_lewk: in EU we have also some germans who want to ban swastika
21:39 < leofox> I saw a girl with a swastika on her shirt today
21:39 < leofox> it was at some cosplay place but it was still weird
21:39 < sir_lewk> krisk: well, let me put it this way, I don't think *any* US politician is harmless.  they are all scum that are destroying the nation
21:40 <@E-J> leofox: was it nazi one or just normal?
21:40 < Spengo> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8fe_1232889083
21:40 < leofox> nazi one
21:40 < Spengo> female masturbation is dangerous
21:40 < sir_lewk> compared to their common evils though, the religous nutjob part doesn't really add *that* much
21:40 < leofox> she had the brownish shirt thing
21:40 < Spengo> don'tchaknow
21:40 <+krisk> and you dont think obama is a CHANGE from that?
21:40 < Spengo> I played as obama in l4d the other day
21:40 <@E-J> because finnish air forces have swastika on their flag
21:40 < sir_lewk> politicians are politicians
21:40 <@E-J> and president have one too
21:41 <+krisk> well the problem is that the christian influences fuel the nutjobs to remove freedoms that are nice to have
21:41 < Spengo> politicians are useless wastes of life
21:41 < sir_lewk> obama may be a lesser evil, but he's still an american politician
21:41 < Spengo> yeah that's the one good thing about obama
21:41 < leofox> E-J the nazi swastika is rotated 45 degrees
21:41 < leofox> and has a red ring around it
21:41 < Spengo> no more christfaggery
21:42 < sir_lewk> I think less the religous part as much as the outright fascist part of politicians that is so dangerous
21:42 < sir_lewk> some may use religoin as their justification, but the problem lies in their thirst for power
21:42 <@E-J> leofox: yeah i know
21:43 <@E-J> leofox: finnish one is straight and is blue
21:43 < sir_lewk> I think I'm pro-anarchy
21:44 <@E-J> nowdays also black
21:44 < Spengo> I think a free-market anarchy would work great
21:44 <+patz2009> gl
21:45 < sir_lewk> I think a brief stint of anarchy as a kind of "societal reset" would work wonders
21:45  * Dam\__ wonders why religion is always blamed on everything, when in the end, it's the people's fault, and not the religion.
21:45 < sir_lewk> religion is popular because it gives people excuses to be the way they already are
21:45 < i_c-Y> cause people suck.
21:46 <@E-J> Dam\__: people fight in the name of religion
21:46 <@E-J> or so they say
21:46 <+krisk> because without religion people wouldnt be so hell-bent on removing other's rights that have no impact on them
21:46 < sir_lewk> I'd shorten that to "people fight".  the excuses vary with the circumstance
21:47 < Spengo> krisk, actually people do that anyway
21:47 < Spengo> not just the religious people
21:47 <+krisk> well what business would an atheist have for banning mushrooms for example?
21:48 < Spengo> mushrooms?
21:48 < Dam\__> (
21:48 < Dam\__> * ('Shrooms.)
21:48 <@E-J> Spengo: not regular tryffels
21:49 < Spengo> I don't get what that has to do with religion though
21:49 <@E-J> maybe if atheist is doctor
21:49 < sir_lewk> you are presuming that if the religous nutjobs were no longer religous, that they would nolonger be nutjobs
21:49 < sir_lewk> I'd consider that a poor assumption
21:50 <+krisk> you cant tell me the guy who did that by repeatedly lieing about cases against other ministers would have done the same if he didn't graduate with a thesis about christian democracy
21:50 < Spengo> usually the religious nutjobs are pro-legalization of a lot of drugs
21:50 <+krisk> no im not presuming they wouldnt still be nutjobs, but theyd do different nutjob things
21:50 < Spengo> what they want to ban is abortions and gay marriage
21:50 < Spengo> because onoz abortion is killing babies, and onoz gays getting married ruins the family somehow
21:51 <+krisk> unless theyre minister of things that dont deal with abortion or gay marriage
21:51 < sir_lewk> well sure, if you change even the smallest circumstances of peoples lives, their outcome can dramatically change
21:51 <+krisk> they apply their reiligous nutjobness to their own field of expertise
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21:52 < sir_lewk> this is like blaming teen violence on video games.  video games do not nessesarily cause violence, but violent individuals are often attracted to them
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21:52 <+krisk> nutjob minister of health + heavy christian dogma -> banning shrooms
21:52 < Dam\__> Agreed:  http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/0418/p09s02-coop.html
21:52 <@E-J> krisk: communists are atheists but they do as bad things as religious nutjobs
21:52 < Spengo> yea
21:52 <+krisk> but different bad things, thats my point
21:52 < Spengo> it's on both sides
21:53 < Spengo> how it should be is people can do whatever they want as long as they aren't hurting other people
21:53 <@E-J> i think they killed shroom users
21:53 < sir_lewk> I'd argue that they are only atheist in a very narrow definition of the word, but yeah
21:53 <+krisk> religious nutjobs go against whatever opposes their religion/dogma
21:53 <+krisk> regular nutjobs go against things in general
21:53 <@E-J> stalin went against whatever opposes his state of mind that day
21:54 <+krisk> religion gives focus to their idiocy
21:54 < sir_lewk> nutjobs rebel against their chosen evils, whether they base their ideals off ancient religious books or more modern books by Marx is pretty irrelevant imho
21:54 <@E-J> http://naurunappula.com/kuvat/328056/07062008139.jpg finns in tallinn
21:55 <+krisk> a regular nutjob would try to ban something silly and be recognized as a nutjob, but a religion one can hide under cultural agendas which is what makes them so dangerous
21:55 < sir_lewk> marxist nutjobs hide behind marxism
21:55 <+krisk> but everybody knows thats silly
21:55 < Dam\__> Even without religion, people will still consider their own ideas and beliefs to be superior to that of others, and will still base their decisions off of their ideas and beliefs.
21:56 <+krisk> people accept religious agendas because they dont look past the cultural cover
21:56 <@E-J> marxism, like shrooms, is silly
21:56 < sir_lewk> communists/marxists have done a hell of a lot of damage in modern history
21:56 <+krisk> "oh we have to respect those views because theyre religious"
21:56 < Spengo> lol
21:57 < sir_lewk> they you just have plain old nationalist nutjobs.  fascists who unite people and commit attrocities behind the veil of patriotism
21:57 <@E-J> sir_lewk: yep, and still they aren't thought as bad people as nazis
21:57 < sir_lewk> fascists in other words
21:57 < sir_lewk> yup
21:57 <+krisk> but the general populace doesnt accept facism if it isn't covered by religion
21:57 <@E-J> iirc more peole died because of stalin than because of hitler
21:57 < sir_lewk> mao was a serious work of shit and there is still a country several billion strong behind his ideas
21:57 <+krisk> or patriotism in your example
21:57 < sir_lewk> E-J: correct
21:58 < sir_lewk> MUCH more
21:58 <+krisk> but history isnt very relevant
21:58 <@E-J>  but because USSR was one of the winners in WWII, it isn't so big crime
21:58 < sir_lewk> and stalin went relatively unopposed.  ironically the only person that ever opposed stalin in anything more than a symbolic stance was hitler
21:58 < i_c-Y> plus the jews hate h1tl3r and g3rm4ny more than the USSR.
21:58 < Dam\__> (And, even without religion, we will still have things like pro- versus anti-abortion, pro- versus anti-gay marriage, Windows versus Linux, KDE versus GNOME, Emacs versus VIM, and so on.)
21:59 < i_c-Y> and jews control everything.
21:59 < i_c-Y> Dam\__: not if i become president.
21:59 < sir_lewk> Vim ftw ;P
21:59 <+krisk> Dam\__ but without religion backing someone's views on those cases the arguments can be opposed fairly
21:59 < Spengo> even if you become president i_c-Y 
21:59 < Spengo> the jews will still control you
21:59 < i_c-Y> its not fair to single out one vi clone, Dam\__ 
21:59 <+krisk> KDE vs GNOME would be an entirely different debate if either directly opposed a religion
21:59 < sir_lewk> if I ever became president my first order of business would be banishing all emacs users to kansas
21:59 < i_c-Y> Spengo: :/
22:00 <+krisk> or if either opposed nationalism
22:01 < leofox> sir_lewk i would ban anyone who uses BSD/unix/lunix as a desktop OS to new mexico
22:01 < leofox> or canada
22:01 <+krisk> those things turn debates away from rationalising arguments
22:01 < leofox> or to the bottom of the ocean
22:01 < sir_lewk> canada ftw
22:01 < sir_lewk> bbl, my download of Full Metal Jacket finished :)
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22:02 <+krisk> people wouldnt accept giving up freedoms based solely on rational arguments, but they do accept it when the reasons are religious or similarly fanatical
22:02 <+krisk> because then there is less room for people to rationally oppose it
22:02 < sir_lewk> thus I'd say the issue isn't religoin, but rather fanatisicm in general
22:03 < Spengo> hey Nikky, a driveby shooting: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8eb_1182876983
22:03 < sir_lewk> it is certainly possible tfor religious people to not be fanactical
22:03 <+krisk> because you're being indoctrined to accept and respect people's religion, so questioning their motives becomes discrimination
22:03 <+krisk> it certainly is
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22:03 < sir_lewk> ok, bbl
22:04 <+krisk> the problem is more how much they can influence with their views, which neednt even be very fanatical
22:04 < Dam\__> "*Whispering:*  Hey.  Psst.  Wanna buy an Linux CD?  You name it; I've got it.  I've even got some BSD.  Good shit."  "Isn't that illegal?"  "Nah, come on, don't be a pussy; once you try this shit, you're gonna be hooked!"
22:04 < |ReDeEm|> krisk: or... we shouldnt give up our rights.
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22:05 < |ReDeEm|> lmao Spengo, nice video
22:05 <+krisk> someone who rules a nation has much more impact on things even if his views aren't fanatical at all, the slightest religious influence or bias against something will have a great affect to that nation
22:05 <+krisk> but Joe christian fanatic behind the mcdonalds counter wont be much of a problem
22:06 <+krisk> |ReDeEm|, how would we oppose giving away rights?
22:06 < Spengo> guns obviously
22:07 < Spengo> the 2nd amendment wasn't about hunting or target shooting, it was about having lots of firepower to use as a bargaining chip
22:07 <+krisk> politics should be replaced by scientists and doctors who've extensively studied society politics and their specialist field (for example healthcare) not a bunch of nutjobs crazy enough to take the job
22:08 < sir_lewk> dammit wtf
22:08 < sir_lewk> why is this in SD aspect ratio
22:08 < sir_lewk> balls
22:08 < Spengo> because it hates you
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22:10 < millinao> I got l4d finally, who other than spengo has it
22:11 < Spengo> zombies
22:11 < millinao> and would be up for a game tonight
22:12 < ryantmer> I has
22:13 < ryantmer> Dunno if I'll play tonight
22:13 < Dam\__> Heh, it appears that the florescent light casing above me might be useful for adding a bit of harshness to whatever I'm listening to.
22:13 < |ReDeEm|> so, on a cooler note: YAY PHP!
22:13 < ryantmer> milinao: My steam id is ryantmer, as original as that may be.
22:13 < ryantmer> *millinao 
22:13 < millinao> k
22:13 < millinao> i'll add you to tcpa group
22:14 < Dam\__> Every time a bass drum goes off, the casing makes this loud screech sound just a few hundred milliseconds after that goes in time perfectly with what's playing.
22:14 <+krisk> you would almost thing sound is vibration
22:14 <+krisk> *think
22:14 < millinao> accept my invite
22:14 <+krisk> yay |ReDeEm|
22:16 < |ReDeEm|> :)
22:16 < Dam\__> I thought sound didn't go though concrete walls so well.  Our dorm walls are painted concrete.
22:18 < leofox> my roommate is an idiot
22:18 < Dam\__> What'd he do?
22:19 < leofox> because of him i have tea all over my hands
22:19 <+krisk> slurpslurpslurp
22:19 < leofox> i made tea and i walked with it and he thought it was a good idea to amically slap me on the back
22:19 < leofox> lomperik
22:19 <+krisk> douche
22:20 < leofox> the stupid part is that he tried to be nice or something
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22:26 < |ReDeEm|> leofox: why... are you drinking tea?
22:27 <+prime_> tea is awesome
22:27 <+prime_> clearly you need to drink more tea
22:27 <+krisk> tea is high tier
22:27 < |ReDeEm|> nah, _really_ good coffee wins
22:28 < sir_lewk> I prefer shitty gas-station coffee
22:28 < |ReDeEm|> lol
22:28 < sir_lewk> totally bitter and black
22:28 <+prime_> eww and all burnt
22:28 <+krisk> coffee is always low tier although it can rise a step given enough milk (godly tier) and whipped cream (high tier)
22:28 < sir_lewk> METAL COFFEE
22:28 < |ReDeEm|> I have some "Dutch Chocolate"....
22:28 <+krisk> but thats only because it then become a compound product
22:28 < sir_lewk> oh gawd no, keep dairy products away from my coffee
22:29 <+krisk> dutch chocolate?
22:29 < |ReDeEm|> a little coffee
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22:29 < |ReDeEm|> krisk: yep
22:29 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v ports_] by efneTI89
22:29 < |ReDeEm|> (coffee)
22:29 < |ReDeEm|> its great
22:29 <+krisk> yes, and keep coffee away from besmudging on my godly tier milk
22:29 < |ReDeEm|> bleh
22:29 < |ReDeEm|> noooooooo
22:29 < |ReDeEm|> Dutch Chocolate coffee with a little coffee > *
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22:30 <+ports_> nana republic is expensive
22:30 < |ReDeEm|> er... with a little milk
22:31 < Dam\__> Isn't tea supposed to be healthy for you (antioxidants and whatnot)?
22:31 < |ReDeEm|> bleh
22:31 <+krisk> yeah especially green tea
22:31 < |ReDeEm|> eeeew
22:31 <+ports_> wolverine has some awesome chops
22:31 <+prime_> gree tea tastes like ass though
22:31 < |ReDeEm|> I need to find a winter hat
22:31 < Dam\__> Yeah, I could not get myself to drink that shit.
22:32 < Dam\__> I took one sip of green tea, once, and teleported to the trash can.
22:33 <+krisk> "This implies that ingestion of Green Tea Extract can not only increase fat oxidation during moderately intensive exercise but also improve insulin sensitivity and glucose tolerance in healthy young men."
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22:34 < Nikky> I love tea
22:34 < Nikky> coffee is so... blue collar
22:34 <+ports_> Nikky, so?
22:34 <+ports_> coffee is a working mans drink
22:34 <+krisk> +1 Nikky
22:34 < |ReDeEm|> ports_: yep
22:34 < |ReDeEm|> Which is why Nikky doesn't like it.
22:34 <+krisk> milk and tea are a real man's drinks
22:34 <+ports_> hes a woman
22:35 < Nikky> I also hear |ReDeEm| likes Starbucks.
22:35 <+krisk> coffee is for sheeple men
22:35 < sir_lewk> every office building I've been in has a coffee machine
22:35 < |ReDeEm|> http://tinyurl.com/czlgnu
22:35 < |ReDeEm|> Nikky: I doooooo
22:35 < sir_lewk> how many have tea mahcines?
22:35 < |ReDeEm|> not many
22:35 < Nikky> You don't need a tea machine...
22:35 < |ReDeEm|> _Good_ coffee is amazing
22:35 < Dam\__> Even my junior high/high school had a coffee shop.
22:35 < sir_lewk> irrelavant
22:36 < |ReDeEm|> _crappy_ coffee is gross
22:36 < Dam\__> It's that important.
22:36 <+krisk> you mean: how many have water and teabags?
22:36 < |ReDeEm|> its got a wide range
22:36 < sir_lewk> crapppy coffe is the best
22:36 < Nikky> |ReDeEm|: Starbucks is not good coffee.
22:36 < sir_lewk> no, it really isn't
22:36 < |ReDeEm|> Nikky: I get the cafe mocha, so... its more hot-chocolate with a shot..
22:36 < Nikky> wOWWW
22:36 < sir_lewk> it's not even good crappy coffe
22:36 < i_c-Y> the only thing i get at starbucks if i go is the plain coffee.
22:36 < |ReDeEm|> which, is - by the way - amazing
22:36 < i_c-Y> and half hte time its burned.
22:36 <+krisk> see now hot-chocolate (made from godly milk not water) is godly tier
22:36 < sir_lewk> dunkin donuts has really good coffe though
22:36 <+prime_> lol at this argument
22:36 < |ReDeEm|> krisk: true
22:37 < Nikky> and you call me a girl?
22:37 < Nikky> you grdrink mocha!
22:37 <+prime_> this is the most worthless conversation ever
22:37 < Nikky> what a fag
22:37 < sir_lewk> lolwoman
22:37 < |ReDeEm|> I gr||drink mocha?
22:37 <+krisk> adding coffee into the compound makes it drop at least a full tier
22:37 < Nikky> don't ask
22:37 < |ReDeEm|> lol Nikky.
22:37 < |ReDeEm|> friggin terminal
22:37 < |ReDeEm|> cant use a real client
22:37 < |ReDeEm|> lolnikky
22:37 < Dam\__> What is character [0008], that looks like?
22:37 < Nikky> Maybe you should drink real docoffee sometime.
22:37 < |ReDeEm|> lol
22:37 < Nikky> Instea of that chocolate mocha starbucks shit that you claim is "good coffee"
22:37 < |ReDeEm|> Nikky: like what?
22:38 < Nikky> Like your local organic coffee house, for one
22:38 < |ReDeEm|> mmmmmmmmm ima go get some starbucks coffee now
22:38 <+krisk> or dont drink coffee at all, nothing good will come of it
22:38 < |ReDeEm|> Nikky: lol, we dont have those here
22:38 < |ReDeEm|> we _barely_ have a ast|||starbucks
22:38 < Nikky> Then you fail.
22:38 < Nikky> You've never had good coffee
22:38 < |ReDeEm|> Nope
22:39 < |ReDeEm|> I have had angelic coffee...
22:39 < |ReDeEm|> not quite heavenly...
22:39 < |ReDeEm|> or godly
22:39 < |ReDeEm|> but, reallllly darn good
22:39 < Nikky> It's not that good.
22:39 < Nikky> Trust me, Starbucks is pretty low end.
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22:39 < |ReDeEm|> Nikky: nobody in this world has ever trusted you. Why should I be the first?
22:40 <+prime_> ^
22:40 < Nikky> Because you're a retard, that's why.
22:40 < |ReDeEm|> Smart enough not to trust you.
22:40 <+krisk> starbucks is the mcdonalds of coffee
22:40 < Dam\__> krisk:  Didn't you just say that we'd be better off without religious influences in decisions?  Then what is "godly tier milk?"  :P
22:40 < |ReDeEm|> Thats good enough for me.
22:40 < |ReDeEm|> Dam\__++;
22:40 <+krisk> nice one
22:41 <+prime_> krisk: mcdonalds has coffee now
22:41 < |ReDeEm|> milkkkk
22:41 <+krisk> well yeah but its not their primary product
22:41 < |ReDeEm|> oooh, chocolate milk :)
22:41 <+krisk> mcdonalds sells low tier hamburgers
22:41 <+krisk> starbucks ... coffee
22:41 < Nikky> Remius: Do you like straight shots of espress?
22:41 < |ReDeEm|> Nikky: never had one
22:41 < Nikky> espresso?
22:41 <+prime_> probably not, Nikky
22:42 <+krisk> also, milk isnt a decision : )
22:42 <+prime_> computers dont tend to drink the stuff
22:42 < |ReDeEm|> lol
22:42 < Nikky> t's how you should drink it.
22:42 < |ReDeEm|> it t true?
22:42 < Nikky> SUck a dick.
22:42 < |ReDeEm|> REally?
22:42 <+krisk> lol |ReDeEm| i like how that site shows the same picture for casual shoes as it does for work shoes
22:43 < |ReDeEm|> heh krisk...
22:43 < |ReDeEm|> kohls is probably our biggest department store...
22:43 < Nikky> ...
22:43 < Nikky> In what, shittown USA?
22:43 < |ReDeEm|> ima go get some starbucks and a winter hat
22:43 < Dam\__> Wal-Mart is the biggest store here.
22:43 < |ReDeEm|> But... I have a specific hat that I want to get
22:43 <+krisk> they have really cool sport shoes though
22:43 < Dam\__> In Poor College Student, USA.
22:43 < |ReDeEm|> Dam\__: Kohls is the biggest department store....
22:44 <+krisk> where is the hats categorie?
22:44 < |ReDeEm|> krisk: I couldnt find it
22:44 < Nikky> I wouldn't let my dog shop at kohls.
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22:44 < |ReDeEm|> Nikky: they wouldnt let you("r dog") shop at kohls
22:45 < Nikky> THey probably would... it is kohls.
22:45 <+krisk> cool hoodies too
22:46 < |ReDeEm|> YEah, you are rit|ght.
22:46 < |ReDeEm|> krisk: jup
22:46 < i_c-Y> the biggest store near my college is kmart
22:46 < Dam\__> Nikky has a street name?  "R-Dog?"
22:46 <+krisk> man, our clothing stores suck
22:46 < Nikky> The biggest store next to mine is H&M
22:46 < |ReDeEm|> krisk: if you want something, I can get it and mail it :)
22:46 < |ReDeEm|> for $5000
22:46 < |ReDeEm|> :P
22:46 < Nikky> I thought you were leaving.
22:47 < |ReDeEm|> yeah, im LAsy||zy tho.
22:47 < Nikky> Mr "Starbucks Mocha is _good_ coffee"
22:47 <+krisk> lulz
22:47 <@chronomex> |ReDeEm|: wtf is wrong with your backspace key?  it seems to be making | characters instead
22:47 <+krisk> http://www.kohls.com/kohlsStore/mens/hoodiestrackjackets/hoodies/graphic/PRD~416863/Tony+Hawk+Zebra+Hoodie.jsp#
22:47 <+krisk> awesome
22:47 < Nikky> You're just jealous that your client has a shitty GUI.
22:47 < |ReDeEm|> Nikky: its about productivity, not the size of your e-penis
22:48 < |ReDeEm|> just because your screen is black doesnt mean you are better.
22:48 <@chronomex> visual irc? wtf
22:48 < |ReDeEm|> chronomex: its a great client
22:48 < Nikky> Poll: What is more productive, IRSSI, or xchat?
22:48 < Dam\__> Irssi.
22:48 <@chronomex> also, how is _any_ irc client going to make you more productive?
22:48 < i_c-Y> having sex, and lots of it.
22:48 <@_Auron_> since when is IRC productive?
22:48 <@chronomex> ^
22:48 < Dam\__> ^
22:48 < Nikky> And by xchat I ean... anything with a gui
22:48 < Nikky> well, you guys are shifting his argument, assume it's prodctive
22:48 < Nikky> he just insulted irssi by calling it inefficient
22:48 < |ReDeEm|> http://impoll.org/poll/118
22:48 < Dam\__> IRC is just text, anyway.  Why the fuck do you need to put that in to a graphical user interface?
22:49 <@chronomex> I like what I like, what's wrong with that?
22:49 < Nikky> !k re	
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22:49 <@chronomex> what you like isn't my business, and what I like oughtn't be a concern of yours anyway
22:49 < |ReDeEm|> happy?
22:49 <@chronomex> nope
22:49 <+krisk> ooh ooh writein option
22:49 < Nikky> No, I think we should ban you.
22:49 <+krisk> awesome
22:49 < |ReDeEm|> krisk: right?
22:49 < |ReDeEm|> :)
22:50 < |ReDeEm|> lol nice
22:50 <+krisk> ooh hats is under accessories
22:50 <+krisk> which makes sense because i started browsing at the bottom of the list
22:51 < |ReDeEm|> lol krisk
22:51 < Dam\__> chronomex:  If what the other person liked was not a concern, then the world would be a much happier plae.
22:51 <@chronomex> Dam\__: I know, right?
22:51 < Dam\__> s:ae:ace:
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22:52 < |ReDeEm|> damn... its tied
22:52 < |ReDeEm|> people, vote
22:52 <+krisk> lol vote xchat
22:53 <@E-J> not anymore
22:53 <+krisk> aww
22:53 < |ReDeEm|> everyone must vote
22:53 < |ReDeEm|> D:
22:53 < Nikky> I suggest everyone write in
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22:53 < Nikky> Insults
22:53 <+krisk> lulz
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22:54 < ReDeEm> lol guys, I found the sweetest channel, #home
22:55 < Nikky> Don't care.
22:55 <@E-J> i think these current 18 that i have is enough for me
22:56 < leofox> ReDeEm what about #lesbian
22:56 < Nikky> He's an op there
22:56 < ReDeEm> :P
22:56 < ReDeEm> hey, how do you feel about your IRSSI client now?
22:57 < ReDeEm> its tied with mirc
22:57 < ReDeEm> :D
22:57 < ReDeEm> ok, not any more
22:57 < Nikky> We'll ask the enlightened gurus.
22:58 < Nikky> More ops use irssi than any other client.
22:58 < Nikky> And they do know best.
22:58 <+krisk> i need help with this question: http://zip.4chan.org/fit/res/619072.html  (Yes SFW)
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22:58 <@efneTI92> [Storm\_] Yes rivereye, it is time to go fishing.
22:59 <@_Auron_> irssi seems too primitive, too archaic of an application to be using in modern times, period.
22:59 < Nikky> Shut up, you don't count.
22:59 < ReDeEm> _Auron_: oh thank you... thats my only point
22:59 < ReDeEm> :)
22:59 < Nikky> You're the minority.
22:59 < Dam\__> krisk:  If you're asking on 4chan for help, then you *do* need help.  :P
22:59 < ReDeEm> anything that doesnt require me to learn all sorts of keys is .... good.
22:59 <@_Auron_> Nikky: ?
22:59 < Nikky> Yes ?
23:00 <@_Auron_> I'm the minority?
23:00 <+krisk> Dam\__: /fit/  is pretty ok if you ask something interesting that isnt asked 1000x a day
23:00 < Nikky> _Auron_: So anything that doesn't use a mouse is "primitive" and "archaic?"
23:00 < Nikky> That is hilarious.
23:00 < ReDeEm> nawwww
23:00 < ReDeEm> well, yes.
23:00 <+prime_> nikky is like a woman who is constantly pmsing
23:00 < ReDeEm> prime_ ++;
23:00 <+prime_> tomorrow it will be "irssi sucks"
23:01 < Nikky> I always defend irssi in the face of utter morons.
23:01 < i_c-Y> krisk: "might i interest you with a paper on the knapsack problem?" heh heh heh.
23:01 < Nikky> Soon they'll be saying that we should administrate servers using GUIs.
23:01 < Nikky> i_c-Y: _Auron_ called irssi primitive and archaic.
23:01 < i_c-Y> he's primitive and archaic.
23:01 < Nikky> Please kill him.
23:01 < Nikky> You're closer.
23:01 <+krisk> i_c-Y: i dont get it : (
23:01 < ReDeEm> Nikky: My new job would be administrating Windows Servers.... lots of gui work there
23:02 < ReDeEm> :P
23:02 < Nikky> That is disgusting.
23:02 < Nikky> Who still uses windows servers
23:02 < Dam\__> *Backs up away from ReDeEm.*
23:02 < ReDeEm> Uh.... its a college...
23:02 < Nikky> Midwest retards, that's who
23:02 < ReDeEm> s/college/medical college/
23:03 < Dam\__> That's even more scarier.
23:03 <+prime_> most game servers and windows
23:03 < Nikky> So a nurshing school, lulz
23:03 < ReDeEm> no...
23:03 < Nikky> Yes.
23:03 < ReDeEm> a medical college
23:03 < ReDeEm> different.
23:03 < Nikky> A nursing school.
23:03 <@E-J> college for insane people?
23:03 <@_Auron_> lol
23:03 < Nikky> Probably.
23:03 < ReDeEm> I guarantee, its the coolest datacenter you have ever seen.
23:03 < Dam\__> Insane people that are going to be cutting into people.
23:03 < Nikky> No, it's not.
23:03 < ReDeEm> im sure it is
23:03 < Nikky> We have way cooler ones.
23:04 < ReDeEm> Palm print scan...
23:04 < Nikky> chronomex: How was the UW datacanter you saw?
23:04 < ReDeEm> RFID card, man-trap...
23:04 < ReDeEm> air lock
23:04 < Nikky> Don't care.
23:04 <@chronomex> Nikky: rather loud
23:04 < ReDeEm> retinal scan
23:04 < ReDeEm> ours is pretty quiet actually...
23:04 < ReDeEm> air conditioning is the loudest part... not too bad tho
23:04 < Nikky> Yep, someone got ripped off.
23:04 < ReDeEm> we have good equiptment
23:04 <@E-J> Dam\__: nope, that's virginia tech
23:05 < Nikky> haha
23:05 <+krisk> http://impoll.org/poll/119
23:05 < ReDeEm> so... coffee and hat time
23:05 < i_c-Y> ReDeEm: and you can probably defeat all your security with a paperclip.
23:05 < ReDeEm> anyone wanna join?
23:05 < ReDeEm> i_c-Y: uh... no way
23:05 < Nikky> !k ReDeEm Go away.
23:05 -!- ReDeEm was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [Nikky: Go away.]
23:05 < i_c-Y> problem solved.
23:05 < Nikky> Yeah, i_c-Y is right
23:06 -!- ReDeEm [~Kk@adsl-75-44-34-251.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #tcpa
23:07 < ReDeEm> So, nobody wants to join ?
23:07 <+krisk> ?
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23:07 < Nikky> No, we don't want to go to starbucks and kohls.
23:07 <@_Auron_> LOL wtf
23:07 < ReDeEm> lmao @ topic
23:07 <@_Auron_> this guy is trolling hardcore in #c++
23:07 <@_Auron_> it's hilarious
23:08 <@_Auron_> he isn't right now though
23:08 <+krisk> lol netpimp
23:08 < ReDeEm> :(
23:08 < Nikky> I support trolling.
23:08 < ReDeEm> that is a funny funny topic we have
23:08 < ReDeEm> where is netham?
23:08 <+krisk> out pimpin?
23:08 < Nikky> Part of the trollfest means we can kick and ban.
23:08 < Nikky> So bye bye ReDeEm 
23:08 <@_Auron_> http://pastebin.com/d112936d
23:08 <+krisk> no
23:09 < Nikky> lulz _Auron_ 
23:09 < Dam\__> "Pimpin' ain't easy."
23:11 < Nikky> Yeah, where is Netham45 
23:12 < Dam\__> Maybe he got mad about the topic?
23:12 < Nikky> I doubt it.
23:12 <+krisk> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpKr6bXmtfg
23:12 < Dam\__> Probably mad that someone still had that picture after he had deleted it.  :P
23:12 < sir_lewk> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX8murP-MTg  best scene ever
23:13 < sir_lewk> damn Full Metal Jacket is excellent
23:13 < Dam\__> Oh, "Jacket."  :P
23:14 < ReDeEm> [ReDeEm] lol, my point was to get kicked out of this channel for being retarded..... why am I still here.
23:14 < ReDeEm>  [ReDeEm] I am a shitty troll, apparently.
23:14 < ReDeEm>  <joshg> dude we suck
23:14 < ReDeEm> :P
23:15  * Dam\__ waits for the kick.
23:15 < ReDeEm> yeah, me too
23:15 < ReDeEm> :X
23:16 < ReDeEm> [ReDeEm] Dude, I like django
23:16 < ReDeEm>  [ReDeEm] Anything?
23:16 < ReDeEm>  [ReDeEm] yay python!!!
23:16 < ReDeEm>  [ReDeEm] .... nothing.
23:16 < ReDeEm> hmm
23:16 < Dam\__> The anticipation is building.  It is over nine thousand.
23:16 < ReDeEm> heh
23:16 -!- mode/#tcpa [+b *!*Kk@*.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] by E-J
23:16 -!- ReDeEm was kicked from #tcpa by E-J [flood elsewhere]
23:17 < Dam\__> Oooh, surprise ending.
23:17 -!- mode/#tcpa [-b *!*Kk@*.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] by E-J
23:17 <+krisk> wat a tweeest
23:18 <@E-J> _Auron_: btw, millinao is josh g (i don't think he is that joshg)
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23:20  * Dam\__ looks at the clock.  Oh, right.  Math homework
23:21 <@E-J> i could do little more programming excersises
23:21 < Dam\__> No one that has a graphing calculator is around.  I got to find one.
23:22 <@chronomex> I am
23:22 <@E-J> i have ti-86 on my desk
23:22 <@chronomex> I have a bunchload of 68ks
23:23 -!- Ovan [Ovan@dialup-4.252.89.241.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net] has joined #tcpa
23:23 <@E-J> my 68k is somewhere on brandonw's archives
23:23  * Dam\__ waves at Always 98.
23:24 <+krisk> i'm starting to miss ubuntu/bompiz
23:24 <+krisk> *compiz
23:24 < Dam\__> Compiz is overrated.
23:24 < i_c-Y> i have a HP 50G and a ti 83+ 
23:24 -!- ReDeEm [~Kk@adsl-75-44-34-251.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #tcpa
23:24 < ReDeEm> O.o
23:24 <+krisk> well i like it
23:24 <+krisk> its really good window management
23:25 < ReDeEm> I think I might try to learn how to knit and make my own hat...
23:25 < Dam\__> Awesome/Xmonad is better.
23:25 <+krisk> the cube and stuff are useless imho but a lot of things are awesome
23:25 < Dam\__> ...in my opinion, that is.
23:26 <+krisk> xmonad looks like screen for gui windows
23:26 <+krisk> who voted on the weightplates poll?
23:27 < ReDeEm> me
23:27 <+krisk> cool, reason for that option?
23:27 < Nikky> Mental retardation
23:28 < ReDeEm> krisk: because, you are probably strong enough that you dont need to add 2,5 ever..
23:28 < ReDeEm> you can skip to 5
23:29 < i_c-Y> what kinda dumbass logic is that?
23:29 < ReDeEm> ....
23:29 < ReDeEm> with me, I would want to add 2.5 lbs ...
23:29 < ReDeEm> :)
23:29 < ReDeEm> but, if you are training, 2,5 -> 5 isnt a huge deal
23:30 < ReDeEm> krisk?
23:30 < i_c-Y> kg
23:30 < ReDeEm> yeah...
23:30 < ReDeEm> thats why I used a , not a .
23:30 < ReDeEm> i used a . on mine because its lbs
23:30 <+krisk> ? both options have 4 x 1.25 kg
23:30 < ReDeEm> O.o
23:30 < ReDeEm> really?
23:30 < ReDeEm> then disregard me entirely
23:30 <+krisk> yeah your css is silly ; )
23:31 < ReDeEm> krisk: HEY!
23:31 <+krisk> cuts the line off
23:31 < ReDeEm> H_E_Y_.
23:31 <+krisk> hehe
23:31 < ReDeEm> but, you can click the text in mine!
23:31 < ReDeEm> did you notice?
23:31 < ReDeEm> :)
23:31 <+krisk> hmm no i didnt i think
23:31 <+krisk> but its cool
23:31 < ReDeEm> :)
23:32 < ReDeEm> I didnt spend a ton of time on that site either...
23:32 <+krisk> see the difference between the two sets is those 15kg plates and less 5kg plates
23:32 < ReDeEm> So, its got a few quirks.
23:32 <+krisk> -2x15kg and -2x5kg
23:32 <+krisk> but +2x20kg
23:32 < ReDeEm> get the one with the 15kgs
23:32 < ReDeEm> er...
23:32 < Dam\__> Cannons to the left me me.
23:32 < ReDeEm> nvm, disregard me completely...
23:33 < ReDeEm> you shouldnt be asking me this stuff
23:33 < ReDeEm> ok, fud time
23:33 < ReDeEm> cya
23:33 < Dam\__> ‏Cannons to the right of me.
23:33 <+krisk> its ok ox
23:33 < ReDeEm> :P
23:33 < ReDeEm> thanks for making me feel bettarrrr
23:33 <+krisk> unless I'm missing something the only difference is that the 4x20kg will be less hassle (less seperate weightplates) for higher weights
23:34 <+krisk> 2x20 instead of 2x15+2x5 for each 40kg
23:34 <+mtgrss111> guys guys guys i just had a possible inspiration for a calc game idea.
23:35 <+mtgrss111> japanese dating sim :)
23:35 < i_c-Y> ...
23:35 < i_c-Y> if you were in NYC , id kill you.
23:35 < i_c-Y> way to be out of range.
23:35 < i_c-Y> _Auron_: dispose of mtgrss111 
23:35 <+mtgrss111> then i can do some retarded thing and release multiple chapters and never tie up loose ends :)
23:36 < i_c-Y> youd need to play some dating sims before that was a viable game
23:36 < i_c-Y> unless if you already do
23:36 < i_c-Y> but arent you like 14?
23:36 <+mtgrss111> 17
23:36 < i_c-Y> close enough
23:36 <+mtgrss111> My friend has an old version of clannad, i think o_O
23:37 <+mtgrss111> but i'm a little intimidated by the amount of dialogue in these games
23:38  * krisk starts downloading ubuntuuuu
23:38 < i_c-Y> isnt it illegal for you to be playing dating sims anyway?
23:38 < i_c-Y> since you're a minor?
23:39 <+mtgrss111> I dunno. It's not hentai I'm thinking of, if that's what you're implying.
23:39 < Dam\__> A likely story.
23:40 <+mtgrss111> something like that old gameboy advance game.....what was it called? i forgot.
23:40 <+mtgrss111> i'll look it up.
23:40 < i_c-Y> im pretty sure the end goal of any dating game is fuckin some bitch, getting her pregnant and then ending up with a family
23:40 < i_c-Y> or using GHB or something of the like and raping bitches
23:40 < i_c-Y> however... feel free to prove me wrong. im not an expert on the japs
23:41 < Nikky> Wow
23:41 <+mtgrss111> oh yeah, it was some sort of sim based on love hina. Tactly titled "Love Hine Advance"
23:43 < i_c-Y> and you played this?
23:43 <+mtgrss111> nope. but i have a ROM somewhere tucked away.
23:43 < i_c-Y> Love Hina Advance - Shukufuku no Kane ha Naru Kana is a Japanese dating simulation game that follows the storyline of Love Hina. Love Hina Advance is not released in English. However, English modification can be made to the game cartridge at ones own risk. English modifications are not illegal if you own the Original Japanese Cartridge but would void any warranty.
23:44 <+mtgrss111> i think the english patch may have already been added to it. but im not sure.
23:45 <+krisk> what size should my linux os and linux swap partition be?
23:45 < i_c-Y> have you considered removing yourself from the gene pool?
23:45 < i_c-Y> (both of you)
23:45 <+mtgrss111> nope.
23:45 < i_c-Y> krisk: whats your physical ram size?
23:46 < Dam\__> krisk:  Swap should be half your RAM unless you use hibernation, then it should be 150%.
23:46 < i_c-Y> and how much free space do you have?
23:46 <+mtgrss111> crap, if i do make a game, i gotta write a story and invent characters and actually draw shit too o_o
23:46 <@chronomex> krisk: I usually make swap 2×1G, and linux root around 10G
23:46 <+krisk> 3.5gb RAM + 1gb VRAM
23:46 < i_c-Y> 4GB physical? 
23:46 <+mtgrss111> this is seeming like a bad idea
23:46 <+krisk> i have a couple of dozen gb hd space available but i want to use as little as possible
23:46 < i_c-Y> mtgrss111: of course not
23:46 < i_c-Y> go ahead
23:46 < i_c-Y> in fact, talk to Netham45 about joining Omnimaga
23:46 < i_c-Y> to reach your full potential in making this game
23:47 <+krisk> it's 3.5 physical, 2gb+1gb+512mb
23:47 < Dam\__> krisk:  And as for the system, then a fifty-megabyte "/boot", and the rest can go to root, unless you want a separate "/home", in which case, eight or ten gigabytes should be enough.
23:47 < Dam\__> * for root
23:47 <+mtgrss111> Netham45 has no power at omnimaga anyway.
23:47 <+prime_> why cant it all be on one partition?
23:48 <+krisk> swap is always a seperate partition?
23:48 <+prime_> other than that
23:49 <+krisk> i'm going to mount my ntfs data/docs partition so i use all the same stuff on ubuntu as i do in windows
23:49 <+Netham45> why the fuck do I keep getting highlighted
23:49 <+Netham45> grr
23:49 <+krisk> so i will only need room for the os/linux only apps on the linux partition
23:49 < Dam\__> Netham45:  You're popular.
23:49 < i_c-Y> you dont need to have a separate partition for swap
23:50 < i_c-Y> there's these fancy things called "swap files"
23:50 <@E-J> Netham45: someone has put you to the topic
23:50 <+krisk> hehe
23:50 <+krisk> can i put linux swap file on my windows pagefile partition?
23:50 < i_c-Y> windows pagefile isnt a partition.
23:50 <+krisk> no but i have a partition for it
23:50 <@E-J> you can, but i wouldn't recomend it
23:50 < Dam\__> ^
23:50 <+mtgrss111> wow, what do you know? the ROM already had the patch applied.
23:51 <+krisk> its the first 4gb of my os hd so paging gets best performance
23:51 <+Netham45> !t Welcome to #tcpa | 24 hour Trollfest! Ends on Sunday at 1815, PST (GMT -0800)
23:51 -!- efneTI86 changed the topic of #tcpa to: Welcome to #tcpa | 24 hour Trollfest! Ends on Sunday at 1815, PST (GMT -0800)
23:51 <+Netham45> >.>
23:51 < Dam\__> Yeah, any program would be able to just annihilate your swap file.  That can't be good.
23:52 <+krisk> ?
23:52 <+Netham45> Dam\__, that's why you set it so any program can't write to it.
23:52 < Dam\__> On NTFS on Linux?
23:52 <+Netham45> Why the fuck...
23:52 < Dam\__> Yeah.
23:52 <+mtgrss111> for anybody who was unaware, Ovan = DIALUPMAN
23:52 <+krisk> hmm actually ill be running windows apps in ubuntu so i need windows to have its pagefile intact
23:53 < i_c-Y> what the fuck are you talking about, krisk ?
23:53 <+mtgrss111> he's a superhero
23:53 < Dam\__> mtgrss111:  Also Windows 89 man.
23:53 < Dam\__> He's old-school.  Props the the dude.
23:53 <+mtgrss111> windows 89, eh?
23:54 <+krisk> i_c-Y: i want to run my windows install in a vm in ubuntu so i can seemlessly use windows apps like mirc and msn
23:54 <+krisk> and office
23:54 < Ovan> Win98 >.>
23:54 < Ovan> Win7 Beta =P
23:54 < Dam\__> s:Win:Fail:
23:54 < Dam\__> g
23:55 <+krisk> i can run an existing windows installation in a vm cant i?
23:55 <+krisk> oh damn wait i dont have a cd/dvd drive
23:55 < Dam\__> Download one?
23:55 <+krisk> huhwat
23:56 -!- efneTI86 changed the topic of #tcpa to: Welcome to #tcpa | 24 hour Trollfest! Ends on Sunday at 1815, PST (GMT -0800) |  http://tinyurl.com/netpimp
23:56 <+Netham45> !t Welcome to #tcpa | 24 hour Trollfest! Ends on Sunday at 1815, PST (GMT -0800)
23:56 -!- efneTI86 changed the topic of #tcpa to: Welcome to #tcpa | 24 hour Trollfest! Ends on Sunday at 1815, PST (GMT -0800)
23:56 -!- efneTI86 changed the topic of #tcpa to: Welcome to #tcpa | 24 hour Trollfest! Ends on Sunday at 1815, PST (GMT -0800) |  http://tinyurl.com/netpimp
23:56 <+Netham45> Nikky: Stop it.
23:56  * Dam\__ cracks up.
23:56 <+Netham45> !t Welcome to #tcpa | 24 hour Trollfest! Ends on Sunday at 1815, PST (GMT -0800)
23:56 -!- efneTI86 changed the topic of #tcpa to: Welcome to #tcpa | 24 hour Trollfest! Ends on Sunday at 1815, PST (GMT -0800)
23:56 -!- efneTI86 changed the topic of #tcpa to: Welcome to #tcpa | 24 hour Trollfest! Ends on Sunday at 1815, PST (GMT -0800) |  http://tinyurl.com/netpimp
23:56 < Dam\__> Topic Wars!
23:56 <+prime_> !t you all fail
23:56 <+krisk> haha locked
23:56 -!- efneTI86 changed the topic of #tcpa to: you all fail
23:56 <+mtgrss111> Holy shit Netham45 o_O
23:56 < i_c-Y> !k Netham45 stop changing the topic.
23:56 -!- Netham45 was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [i_c-Y: stop changing the topic.]
23:56 -!- Netham45 [~Netham45@c-71-229-253-50.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa
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23:57 < i_c-Y> !k Netham45 autorejoin
23:57 -!- Netham45 was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [i_c-Y: autorejoin]
23:57 -!- Netham45 [~Netham45@c-71-229-253-50.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa
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23:57 <@chronomex> omfg lol
23:57 <@chronomex> that's awesome
23:57 <+krisk> ok any experiences with installing linux from a usb drive?
23:57 <+prime_> first, the bios must support it
23:57 < Dam\__> krisk:  'dd' image to USB drive.  Boot from it.  Don.e
23:58 < i_c-Y> krisk: why dont you use the fedora usb stick creator
23:58 <+krisk> dd doesnt exist on windows does it
23:58 <+krisk> can i apply that creator to ubuntu?
23:58 < Dam\__> GNU tools for Windows.
23:58 <@chronomex> what?
23:58 <+krisk> i can just dd the dvd image to it?
23:59 < Dam\__> No, there should be a USB image that you can $(dd) to it.
23:59 < Dam\__> I don't know if Ubuntu has these officially (my distro does).
23:59 <+krisk> but i just downloaded the dvd : (
23:59 <+krisk> what if i extract it and turn it into a usb image?
23:59 < i_c-Y> http://tinyurl.com/djd8nc
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