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00:00 <@_Auron_> ya
00:00 <@_Auron_> I have a laser one
00:01 < TheStorm> yep I have like 5 including a trackball.
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00:01 <@_Auron_> actually I have 3 mice.. an LED one (much like the laser one, without the extra buttons on the side), the laser one, and a laptop that has a usb dongle instead of the cord-and-base reciever
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00:14 < millinao> http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/??
00:39 <@_Auron_> heh it was 80F today
00:41 < Merthsoft> JoelS!
00:41 < Merthsoft> JoelS!
00:41 < Merthsoft> JoelS!
00:41 < Merthsoft> JoelS!
00:41 < Merthsoft> JoelS!
00:41 < Merthsoft> I have an answer!
00:41 < Merthsoft> And an interview soon.
00:43 <@Andy_J> .
00:43 < Merthsoft> .
00:43  * _Auron_ is in &tcpa
00:43 < millinao> hi
00:43 <@Andy_J> lol local channels
00:44 <@_Auron_> :P
00:44 < Merthsoft> wait what?
00:47 < Merthsoft> dammit JoelS 
00:48 <@_Auron_> http://scuttle.mirror.waffleimages.com/data/files/d8/d8478b71e7349a4160fa64639ce58d2ae112bd77.jpg
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00:57 <+krisk> FEAR2 is awesome
00:59 < Speler> Hey krisk 
01:00 <+krisk> lo
01:00  * _Auron_ sighs
01:00 <@_Auron_> I hate my life :|
01:01 <+krisk> wat
01:01 < Nikky> I'm sorry.
01:01 <+krisk> how can you hate life when FEAR2 demo just came out
01:01 < Nikky> Games are lame.
01:02 < Speler> Crack is whack
01:02 <+krisk> not this
01:02 < Speler> But we all know it's totally not
01:02 < Speler> K, yes it is
01:02 < Ox40Work> taime to goaaaaaa
01:02 < Ox40Work> hoammeee
01:02 < millinao> _auron_ needs a hug
01:02  * millinao snuggles
01:02 <+krisk> GOA
01:02 <+krisk> woo
01:02 <+krisk> doofdoofdoofdoof
01:02  * Ox40Work /hugs _Auron_
01:02 <+krisk> but auron wat is wrong?
01:03 < Merthsoft> goa?
01:03 < Merthsoft> hoame?
01:03 <+krisk> (goa = psytrance)
01:05 < Ox40Work> go.
01:05 < Ox40Work> home.
01:05 < Ox40Work> yay!
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01:22 < JoelS> Merthsoft: what?
01:22 < Merthsoft> I'm interviewing right now!
01:23 < JoelS> Merthsoft: wow!
01:29 < Nikky> Tell them facebook sucks
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01:30 < millinao> haha
01:31 < ports_> im bored
01:31 < ports_> and the internet is slow here
01:31 <+krisk> "so like is it ok if i use address information in the database to meet chicks?"
01:31 < ports_> no
01:32 <+krisk> ports why are you so negative?
01:33 < ports_> because im hot
01:33 < Speler> He is
01:36 < Merthsoft> JoelS: I'm a little green.
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01:41 < Merthsoft> And apparently stupid about Java...
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01:42 < JoelS> Merthsoft: ruh roh
01:42 < Merthsoft> yeah
01:42 < JoelS> Got ya good?
01:42 < Merthsoft> she asked three questions. Two I didn't know, one I asnwered wrong
01:43 < Hunterkll> Who in gods name came to my network asking for me?
01:44 < Hunterkll> joined #whyweprotest in fact
01:44 < Hunterkll> someone logged on and requested me
01:44 < Hunterkll> said i'd know what it meant
01:45 < Hunterkll> another ircop notified me of this
01:45 < Hunterkll> which one of you faggots actually wanted to find me? :x
01:45 < JoelS> Merthsoft: sorry to hear that
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01:46 < Merthsoft> JoelS: Me too. She told me to do a puzzle, so we'll see.
01:47 < JoelS> Rockin, do a puzzle.  Who was it?
01:47 < Merthsoft> Laurie Young, she seemed cool.
01:47 < JoelS> She asked you Java questions?
01:48 < Merthsoft> I think I'll do User Bin Crash
01:48 < Merthsoft> Yeah, she said "Which language are you the most comfortable with" and I said "Java"
01:49 < Merthsoft> i wonder what would have been asked if I said C++
01:49 < Merthsoft> maybe i'd get them right
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01:51 < Merthsoft> JoelS: With the puzzles, are thee example outputs supposed to be the outputs for the example inputs?
01:51 < JoelS> Maybe, I dunno :/
01:51 < JoelS> Merthsoft: what else did she ask?
01:52 < JoelS> Laurie is a recruiter, not an engineer
01:53 < Merthsoft> She asked how we knew each other. She asked about what I've done so far during my summers. She asked what drew me towards facebook.
01:53 < Merthsoft> She asked what my plans were after college
01:58 < Merthsoft> she seemed really nice, though.
01:58 < JoelS> She's pretty cool, sure.
02:00 < Merthsoft> she confirmed about what you said about how awesome it is to work there, too
02:00 < JoelS> Oh yeah?
02:00 < Merthsoft> yeah
02:00 < JoelS> how so
02:01 < Merthsoft> when she asked about what drew me towards it, i told her about conversations with you about what it's like to work there, with like minded people who are goal oritened but still could have fun, and she basically said that that's what it's like
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02:02 < _Digital> Hey Barrett, you around?
02:04  * _Digital highlights Nikky as well
02:04 < Damakaru> Does C++ support regular expressions?
02:06 < millinao> not out of the box like perl
02:07 < millinao> i think boost has a library for it
02:08 < JoelS> Damakaru: pretty much only perl and javascript support them as native types, all other languaes have libraries for it
02:08 < JoelS> Merthsoft: cool
02:08 < Merthsoft> yup. but i feel like i'm too inexperienced
02:08 < JoelS> Maybe, in any case - this helps you for your next interview, yes?
02:09 < Merthsoft> Yup! Something good comes out of it no matter what. And the alternative is playing with robots this summer.
02:09 < JoelS> That's a fun alternative
02:09 < Merthsoft> indeed
02:10 < Nikky> And better than working for facebook
02:10 <@_Auron_> <krisk> but auron wat is wrong?
02:10 <@_Auron_> I need a new life
02:10 < Nikky> I hear they force you to sell your soul.
02:10 < _Digital> Nikky, why doe V200 have VMware running?
02:10 < millinao> haha
02:10 < Nikky> _Digital: because barrett is doing stuff with databasing
02:10 < JoelS> Nikky: one day your pessimism won't serve you well.
02:10 < Nikky> and has a virtual machine running
02:10 <@_Auron_> if I don't get the call I've been waiting for all week, tomorrow,
02:10 < Nikky> JoelS: Wow, you sure are smart.
02:11 <@_Auron_> I'm going to have a mental breakdown
02:11 < JoelS> Nikky: Thanks :D
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02:11 < Hunterkll> leofox
02:11 < Hunterkll> where's leofox
02:11 < Hunterkll> that's who was asking for me
02:11 < Damakaru> Clearly, he's gone.
02:12 <@_Auron_> I swear to god
02:12 <@_Auron_> even if I get this job, and move out to an apartment
02:12 <@_Auron_> something fucked up like getting injured is going to happen to me
02:12 <@_Auron_> there has never been a peaceful moment in my life
02:12 <@_Auron_> ever
02:12 < Damakaru> Wow, you sound even more pessimistic than I usually am..
02:13 < _Digital> it is bad luck to be superstitious
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02:13 < _Digital> or Nikky for that sake Damakaru and _Auron_
02:13 < Hunterkll> the hell did leofox even want
02:13 < Hunterkll> with ME
02:13 < _Digital> why are you asking us?
02:13 < Hunterkll> i don't know
02:13 < _Digital> go back to your die of IRC
02:13 < _Digital> side*
02:13 < Hunterkll> lol
02:13 < Hunterkll> this owuld be my side if i ever set up my autojoins again
02:14 < Hunterkll> lol
02:14 < _Digital> then I kick you
02:14 < Damakaru> Are you two, like, mortal Internet enemies or something?
02:14 < _Digital> no
02:14 < Hunterkll> why? I have a ti calc now. -_-
02:14 < _Digital> I'm bored
02:14 < Hunterkll> lol
02:14 < _Digital> can't do anymore work on my car since the sun set
02:15 < _Digital> but I got my new front rotors and brake pads on
02:15 < _Digital> Damakaru, Hunterkll used ot be a regular in here
02:15 < Hunterkll> lol
02:16 < Hunterkll> i still have my hop on the bots
02:16 < Hunterkll> heh
02:16 < _Digital> and he flaunted his $$$ and hardware
02:16 < _Digital> showed up picks of like 20 new 1TB hDDs and all that
02:16 <@_Auron_> and had cancer at one point
02:17  * Damakaru whistles.  Wow, twenty terabytes?
02:17 < _Digital> currect me if I'm wrong on that, Hunterkll, though they could've been smaller capacity
02:18 < Hunterkll> hehe
02:18 < Damakaru> Must of had the word's largest porn collection...
02:18 < Hunterkll> _Digital, I have a few harddrives around
02:18 < Damakaru> s:r:rl:
02:18 < Hunterkll> anyway
02:19 < Hunterkll> I've moved to SAS drives now. -_-;;
02:20 < _Digital> how much do you have?
02:20 < _Digital> SAS isn't cheap
02:22 < Damakaru> My roommate found some place, where, apparently, you can have a pretty decent computer built for as low as a hundred-and-so dollars.  It seemed a little bit too good to be true...
02:24 < Damakaru> You get the pick out all the parts, and what not, similar to on Apple's site.
02:25 < Damakaru> (http://www.ascendtech.us/)
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02:40 < serenoone> hello there god evining
02:40 < serenoone> sorry for my english
02:40 < TheStorm> Hi serenoone 
02:40 < serenoone> its not my own language
02:40 < serenoone> can you help me with something
02:41 < serenoone> i have a test tomorow
02:41 < TheStorm> ok sure what do you need to know?
02:41 < serenoone> and i need a program for operations research
02:42 < serenoone> for ti voyage 200
02:42 < serenoone> i dont now if the name of the discipline its as i said
02:43 < TheStorm> Hmm I don'k know much about the v200, but if you look around http://ticalc.org you might find what you need.
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02:43 < serenoone> but im am seaing on my book on bibliografic a book thats cald like that
02:43 < serenoone> ...calld...
02:44 < TheStorm> called*
02:44 < serenoone> i been there
02:44 < serenoone> thats
02:44 < serenoone> sorry
02:44 < serenoone> i speek but i dont right well
02:45 < TheStorm> its ok there are a few other non english speaker's here
02:45 < serenoone> thank´s
02:45 < serenoone> you dont now another site
02:45 < serenoone> ....
02:45 < TheStorm> Ticalc would be the best place to look 
02:46 < serenoone> ok
02:46 < serenoone> thanks
02:46 < TheStorm> if they don't have it I don't know who will
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02:54 < i_c-Y> what are you looking for, serenoone ?
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03:02 < serenoone> operacional research
03:02 < serenoone> operacional investigaction
03:02 < serenoone> for maximization and minimization
03:03 < i_c-Y> of?
03:03 < serenoone>  funtion and restritions
03:04 < serenoone> objectif funtion and there restritions
03:04 < serenoone> do you now wath im talking about???
03:04 < serenoone> im portuguese...
03:05 < serenoone> my english its not the best
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03:31 < i_c-Y> worst description ever
03:32 < i_c-Y> it could mean something like calculus of variations to the first derivative test to lagrange multipliers to the higher order derivative tests , etc.
03:32 < Merthsoft> he's portuguese
03:33 < ports_> hrm
03:37 < ports_> i love 300
03:37 < ports_> its for the final scene of badassery
03:37 < ports_> when Leonidas throws the spear and cuts Xerxes face
03:37 < ports_> and next.. the insane spartan army will go destroy the silly persians
03:38 <@_Auron_> 300 is very manly
03:38 < ports_> _Auron_, you liked it?
03:38 <@_Auron_> yeah
03:38 <@_Auron_> why wouldn't I
03:40 < ports_> i dont know
03:40 < ports_> you check out boys in it dont you?
03:42 < ports_> i watch chick flicks to see girls in nighties
03:44 < ports_> its ok
03:45 < ports_> oh man oh man
03:45 < ports_> its about to happen
03:45 < ports_> the guy just gave the queen back the bone necklace
03:46 < sir_lewk> gut-stabby time?
03:46 < ports_> oh she killed the senator 10 minutes ago
03:46 < ports_> the spartans are getting ready to bring the heat
03:46 < ports_> its the final scene
03:48 < TD--Linux> also LOL
03:48 < TD--Linux> I caught on video
03:48 < TD--Linux> someone using a grinder
03:48 < TD--Linux> and getting a spark up their nose
03:49 < ports_> ok
03:50 < ports_> so the speech in Independence Day from Bill Pullman.. its one of the BEST in speeches ever..
03:50 < ports_> the one at the end of 300... right up there
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04:03 < serenoone> hello
04:03 < serenoone> again
04:04 < serenoone> anyone can tell me if voyage200 can read pdf´s
04:05 <+prime_> not with default software
04:05 <+prime_> maybe not with any software
04:05 < TheStorm> I think there is an eBook reader though
04:05 < serenoone> were can i find
04:06 < serenoone> i already tried ti reader and it not does that
04:07 < serenoone> can you help me plz
04:07 <+prime_> http://tict.ticalc.org/ebooks/ebooks.html
04:07 <+prime_> maybe that
04:08 < serenoone> thanks
04:09 < millinao> hahaha
04:09 < serenoone> why are you lafing
04:10 < millinao> should i put this in my school essay "She was taught that all American men are pigs, who only want to use them for their orifices."
04:10 < millinao> i have always wanted to write orifice in a school paper
04:10 < ports_> mm
04:10 < ports_> scotch
04:10 < ports_> scotchy scotchy scotch
04:10 <@_Auron_> oh
04:11 <@_Auron_> didn't have interest in the men in 300
04:11 < ports_> _Auron_, really?
04:11 <@_Auron_> yeah
04:11 < ports_> if i was gay... those men looked good.
04:11 < ports_> all those muscles
04:11 <@_Auron_> really buff guys turn me off, believe it or not
04:11 < ports_> id let them carry me around
04:11 < ports_> :)
04:11 <@_Auron_> I like average/toned guys but not buff ones
04:13 < sir_lewk> hahahaha
04:13 < sir_lewk> scrolling down http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_bands_from_Finland
04:13 < sir_lewk> 90% of that must be metal :D
04:21 < sir_lewk> E-JL: I highly approve of your countries musical tastes
04:22 <@_Auron_> omg
04:22 <@_Auron_> lost has too much love triangles
04:23 <@_Auron_> kate loves jack and sawyer, jack loves kate, juliet loves jack, ben loves juliet
04:23 < ports_> julie loves my penis
04:23 < ports_> og
04:23 < ports_> wrong game
04:23 < Merthsoft> metal sucks
04:24 < sir_lewk> _Auron_: nobody cares about your random soaps :P
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04:25 < sir_lewk> did they get off that island or whatever yet?
04:26 < Milyardo> _Auron_: Are they japanese Soaps?
04:27 <@_Auron_> soaps?
04:27 <@_Auron_> it's Lost, oy.
04:27 <@_Auron_> no japanese at all
04:27 < Milyardo> then I don't care
04:27 < Milyardo> >.>
04:27 <@_Auron_> trying to get caught up.. at season 4 ep 7, and downloading last night's eps
04:28 < Milyardo> You should watvh them twice! for the both of us
04:28 <@_Auron_> what?
04:41 <+prime_> yesterdays episode was fucking crazy
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04:47 < sir_lewk> time for a reboot
04:47  * sir_lewk goes to bed
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04:57 <@_Auron_> prime_: orly
04:57 <@_Auron_> episode or episodes? I'm downloading eps 1 and 2
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05:06 <+prime_> well it was a 2 hour mega episode, which the scene called 2 eps
05:06 <@_Auron_> alrighty, just making sure
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05:17 <@_Auron_> O_o
05:17 <@_Auron_> http://www.videogamesblogger.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/dragon-quest-ix-dual-cartridge-ds-game.jpg
05:17 <@_Auron_> holy crap
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05:31 < Merthsoft> that's quite a big game
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05:38 < _Digital> I love commercials about HD content that are in SD
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06:10 <@_Auron_> so let's see... circuit city went out of business, albertson's went out of business
06:10 <@_Auron_> I wonder who else is going out of business around here
06:11 < _Digital> well, that doesn't concern me much as our current president cripples our current intelligence gathering capabilities 
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06:13 <@_Auron_> ?
06:15 < _Digital> closing down guantonimo and, if true, CIA stations in other countries
06:15 <@_Auron_> mm
06:18 < _Digital> well, only time will tell so grumbling now won't do much good...
06:18 < millinao> how does that cripple our intelligence gathering
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06:18 < millinao> all that does is stop a bunch of innocent people getting sent without any sort of trial
06:19 < millinao> if you really think that closing guantamano bay is a bad idea then you,sir, have your head screwed on backwards
06:20 < millinao> grumble grumble grumble
06:21  * _Digital wants to quote RvB's Real Life vs The Internet
06:21  * _Digital think's it'll get him kicked instead
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06:35  * _Auron_ is doing a mass filename fix
06:41 < _Digital> I've done that
06:41 < _Digital> sed is fun
06:41 <@_Auron_> er
06:41 <@_Auron_> each filename is unique and has to be changed/modified different
06:42 <@_Auron_> some just need trimming, others need to replace _ with a space, caps added, certain tags need to be added if they're not there (also that tag depends on what the file is, too)
06:42 < _Digital> that sucks
06:42 <@_Auron_> I *could* write a script to do this, but it'd be complicated and I could rename them faster than I could write a correct script
06:42 < _Digital> I wish you luck on your endeavor 
06:42 <@_Auron_> I'm already halfway done :P
06:43 <@_Auron_> some of them don't even need to be changed
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06:44 < _Digital> mind if I eat and look over your shoulder?
06:44 <@_Auron_> what
06:45 <@_Auron_> oo, a duplicate file
06:45 <@_Auron_> another good reason to fix the filenames
06:47 <@_Auron_> 76 files to go
06:47 < _Digital> yeah, I have about 600 powerpoint files that need worting
06:47 < _Digital> sorting*
06:47 < _Digital> wanna do it for me?
06:47 < _Digital> got duplicates and versions up the yin yang
06:48 <@_Auron_> lol
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06:50 <@_Auron_> I have filenames like ####_-_blah_more_blah_-_foobar_jpn_-rotfburgers.zip that has to turn into Blah More Blah - Foobar (J).zip
06:50 <@_Auron_> or partially reversed with/without underscores with/without numbers
06:51 <@_Auron_> :)
06:53 <@_Auron_> 44 to go
06:56 <@_Auron_> http://www.ohgizmo.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/spidey_tattoo_1.jpg
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07:08 <@_Auron_> done
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07:33 <@_Auron_> and now I have all aired episodes of Lost to current, and properly named
07:34 <@_Auron_> (unrelated to earlier filename fixing)
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08:32 <@E-J> sir_lewk: finland might be only country were death metal band can be most selling band of the week
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09:34 <@E-J> http://naurunappula.com/kuvat/357552/gulakuno2.jpg
09:36 < nicolas> morning peeps
10:03 < _Digital> morning
10:03  * _Auron_ 's brain explodes
10:03 < _Digital> ffmpeg doesn't mix the channels corrently when going from 5.1 ac3 to 5.1 aac
10:04 <@_Auron_> chrono trigger DS's font is like half the size from the original and the menus are different
10:04 <@_Auron_> I don't think I can play this.
10:05 <@_Auron_> compared to the text box, the font is small enough to fit *5* lines of text when CRPGs tend to only have 2-3 lines of text. WHY the fuck did they do this
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10:21 < tr1p1ea> i *still* cant get over the fridge and the tarzan scene
10:28  * _Digital watches quad core cug a 1080i mpeg-2 video stream
10:29 < _Digital> chug*
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10:37 <@efneTI92> [leofox] All we do in hell is play DDR!
10:38 < tr1p1ea> how do you say 'colour' in dutch?
10:42 < leofox> kleur
10:42 < leofox> do you know the eu sound?
10:42 <@_Auron_> 'eh'?
10:42 < tr1p1ea> i thought thats what they were saying
10:42 < tr1p1ea> and what the hell is up with vtech
10:42 < leofox> its kind of like a long "uh"
10:42 < tr1p1ea> sif anyone will ever apply there again
10:42 < leofox> VTECH JUST KICKED IN YO
10:43 < leofox> what are you talking about tr1p
10:43 < tr1p1ea> virginia tech
10:43 < leofox> I know what vtech is
10:43 < leofox> thats the school where the korean kid shot everyone
10:43 < leofox> he got the high score
10:44 < tr1p1ea> some chinese guy cut some chicks head off
10:44 < leofox> wut
10:44 < leofox> crazy shit man
10:45 < leofox> again an asian
10:46 <@E-J> belgians are sick also apparently
10:47 < leofox> what does tha t have to do with kleur
10:48 < tr1p1ea> oh no, i was talking to some dutchies
10:48 < tr1p1ea> about unrelated stuffs
10:49 <@E-J> hmmm, sick day, belgians have kindergarden stabbing and norway has school shootout
10:49 < tr1p1ea> :X
10:49 < leofox> it's going bad here too
10:49 < leofox> the only politician that dared to speak up to islam has to go to court for it
10:50 < leofox> it's the end of free speech
10:51 < leofox> i bet there;s going to be sharia law not long from now
10:51 < tr1p1ea> i hate it how people are free to do whatever they want in our country
10:52 < tr1p1ea> but if we go to theirs
10:53 <@E-J> tr1p1ea: at least your goverment doesn't allow refugees
10:53 < tr1p1ea> u get locked up for not knowing ths customs
10:53 < tr1p1ea> E-J: we get refugees
10:53 < tr1p1ea> but they are all processed heavily
10:53 <@E-J> not as much as other countries
10:53 < tr1p1ea> true since we arent as accessible
10:54 < leofox> over here the turkish and morroccan kids beat up old ladies and ambulance workers, steal etc
10:54 < leofox> and no one dares to say something because you'll be racist
10:54 < tr1p1ea> sudanese are pretty bad here recently
10:54 < tr1p1ea> steal and stuff
10:54 < tr1p1ea> and try to spread hiv
10:54 < leofox> we live in a politically correct falile multicultural society
10:54 <@E-J> though finnish court decided that 2 somali boys will be sent to somalia because of stealing
10:55 < leofox> over  here the only thing they do about it is please the kids even more
10:55 < leofox> build football fields and stuff
10:55 < leofox> "so that they arent bored anymore the little rascals"
10:56 <@E-J> http://yle.fi/uutiset/news/2008/12/court_moves_to_deport_two_somalis_446950.html
10:56 < leofox> and when the football field is there and no one uses it and the problems are still there
10:56 < leofox> they ask the kids why are you still like this
10:56 < leofox> and it's all "well the football field sucks we want a tennis court"
10:56 < leofox> they must be laughing their asses off
10:57 < leofox> they complain because they arent allowed into the discotheques, but thats only because they make trouble
10:57 < leofox> "they dont want us because we are foreign boohoohoo"
10:59 <@E-J> in finland they are allowed because otherwise that disco will be blamed unequality
11:00 <@E-J> same with gybsies
11:00 < leofox> so its the same there
11:00 < leofox> but really, it is almost always the stereotypical groups that start trouble
11:00 < leofox> the morrocans vs the turks vs the skinheads
11:01 < leofox> and of course there are also a lot of nice foreign people
11:01 <@E-J> damn, i got scared, phone was under ti-86 and reminder got on with vibra
11:01 <@E-J> ti-86 made sound little louder
11:01 < leofox> omg
11:02 < leofox> meh
11:02 < leofox> im going to stop being racist now
11:02 <@E-J> leofox: here it's somalis vs skinheads normally
11:02 < leofox> we dont have a lot of somalis
11:02 < leofox> well there was this one politician girl
11:02 <@E-J> turks don't fight, they make kebab
11:03 < leofox> she had to move to america because she dared to speak up to islam
11:03 < leofox> she wasnt safe anymore here because the government wouldnt pay her security anymore
11:04 < leofox> she made a movie with a great director
11:04 < leofox> the director was shot
11:04 < leofox> in the middle of amsterdam, right on his bike
11:05 <@E-J> i think i read about that
11:06 <@E-J> here aren't so much islam fanatics that they would do things like that
11:06 <@E-J> of course finnish newspapers didn't publish those danish pictures about mohammad
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12:05 < _Digital> E-J or leofox, do either of you have experience with mencoder?
12:06 < leofox>  _Digital ive used it
12:07 < leofox> but i had a gui I think
12:07 < _Digital> it is segfaulting on me and I don't know why
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13:26 < tr1p1ea> there was that ir link?
13:26 <@benryves> Heya tr1p1ea, and aye - but that had relatively complex hardware.
13:27 < tr1p1ea> hey ben :>
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13:43 <@benryves> I don't suppose you're au fait with the TI-84+ USB hardware?
13:47 <@benryves> tr1p1ea: Will you be entering the Cemetech competition?
13:56 < tr1p1ea> probably not
13:57 <@benryves> Had any time to work on your TI projects recently?
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14:13 < tr1p1ea> done a tiny bit of work on xLIB
14:14 <@benryves> Oh, cool. :) Features or fixes?
14:14 < tr1p1ea> rewrite :X
14:14 <@benryves> Don't know if you'd find any of the graphics code I hacked together for BBC BASIC useful?
14:15 <@benryves> Well, I say "I", qarnos is the man to thank for the circle and ellipse filling code as well as the line clipping code.
14:17 <@benryves> Any reason for the rewrite, though? Pride? :)
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14:18 < tr1p1ea> nah just starting again with new ideas
14:18 <@benryves> Ah. Retaining backwards compatibility, though?
14:18 < tr1p1ea> nah
14:19 < tr1p1ea> celtic is for that
14:19 <@benryves> Is Celtic compatible with xLIB?
14:20 < tr1p1ea> yes
14:20 < tr1p1ea> i was never happy with the way xLIB was layed out
14:20 < tr1p1ea> but everyone went crazy when i suggested i change it
14:20 < tr1p1ea> so im glad celtic is around to cater for the old xLIB
14:20 <@benryves> Aye, I can see that. What sort of features are you planning?
14:20 < tr1p1ea> that said, there is a very slim chance this will ever be finished
14:21 <@benryves> Oh, hm.
14:21 < tr1p1ea> ill be asm'ising a lot of common BASIC formulas
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14:21 <@benryves> Oh? :\
14:21 < tr1p1ea> mainly to do with getting map coords and making use of arrow keys etc
14:21 <@benryves> Oh, right, so more focus on utility than graphics I suppose?
14:22 < tr1p1ea> also allowing functions to be strung together
14:22 < tr1p1ea> yeh
14:22 < tr1p1ea> but im afraid it will probably specialise what you can do with it somewhat
14:22 < tr1p1ea> shrug
14:30 <@benryves> As you said, Celtic covers you.
14:32 <@benryves> I don't suppose you've found that Flash apps mysteriously vanish from Wabbitemu after you've run them a few times?
14:34 < ports-_> lol
14:35 <@benryves> ports-_: ?
14:35 < ports-_> nm
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14:43 < Ox40Work> HALO
14:43 <@benryves> Quake!
14:43 < Ox40Work> WOW
14:43 <@benryves> OK, enough of shouting out game names.
14:44 < Ox40Work> :P Jup, my roommate's soul has been consumed by WoW
14:44 <@benryves> Never played it myself
14:44 < Ox40Work> And the servers were down the other day, so he spent 1/2 the day cleaning... :D
14:44 < Ox40Work> I got home, hes like "*twitch* WoW... server.... down *vacuumm vacuumm*"
14:45 < Ox40Work> :|
14:49 < sir_lewk> WoW fucks people up
14:50 <@benryves> Heya sir_lewk
14:50 < sir_lewk> sup benryves
14:52 < ports-_> score
14:52 < ports-_> hellz yeah
14:52 < ports-_> i found a thread on slickdeals for at&t dsl.. they are doing a 50% discount if you call to cancel service
14:53 < ports-_> i was paying 35/month.. they knocked it down to $17.50/month for 6mbps... woot woot
14:54 <@benryves> ports-_: Heh, that's an old trick that sometimes backfires. :P
14:55 < ports-_> that's ok
14:56 < ports-_> im not particularly attached to at&t... my only mistake was that i got a really nice email addy from them.. so i printed some business cards and put my resume online with it..
14:56 < ports-_> but at least for now i have a job... and the business cards were like $13
14:56 < ports-_> i could switch to cable internet and get 10mbps for a similar $20-30/month price
15:01 < sir_lewk> yeah, but cable companies are all assholes
15:02 < sir_lewk> evil assholes
15:02 < sir_lewk> scum of the telecommunications business
15:03 < sir_lewk> vile human waste, curned out by the media industry
15:03 < sir_lewk> In short, I do no like them.
15:09 < tr1p1ea> benryves: the disappearing app bug is a result of the way the emus 'quickload' apps
15:09 < tr1p1ea> it doesnt occur on a real calc
15:11 < ports-_> sir_lewk:  they all suck
15:12 < ports-_> my at&t only works so well because i dont let them configure anything
15:12 < Ox40Work> ports-_: My roomie and I need business cards...
15:12 < Ox40Work> I might get one if I get that new job
15:12 < ports-_> Ox40Work:  no get them now
15:12 < sir_lewk> I want to get business cards with my resume microprinted on the back
15:12 < ports-_> Ox40Work:  www.vistaprint.com ... order business cards with just your Name, ph#, email.
15:12 <@benryves> tr1p1ea: I thought it may have been something like that, but couldn't replicate it on my real calc. Thanks.
15:13 < Ox40Work> ports-_: why?
15:13 < ports-_> Ox40Work:  to network with ya dummy
15:13 < ports-_> i carry 2 sets of business cards.. my work cards, and my personal.
15:14 < Ox40Work> :p
15:14 < Ox40Work> YEAH, MAKES SENSE
15:14 < ports-_> if im interested in networking with someone, but dont want them to get my work card/number.. i give them my personal
15:14 < Ox40Work> ER... sorry, our system requires caps lock
15:14 < Ox40Work> I gotta design a card tho
15:14 < ports-_> which is also good for job hunting on the sly while you currently have a job.
15:14 < ports-_> Ox40Work:  i hate your life
15:14 < Ox40Work> I was thinking a square in red [_] with a \\ goin thru it
15:14 < ports-_> Ox40Work:  vistaprint has preset styles.. just pick something simple
15:14 < Ox40Work> ports-_: awesome...
15:14 < Ox40Work> http://tushaus.com
15:14 < ports-_> i told you.
15:14 < ports-_> name, number, email
15:14 < sir_lewk> simple is good
15:15 < ports-_> no logo, no website, nothing extra.
15:15 < ports-_> just a plain white card. with those 3 things
15:15 < Ox40Work> bleh
15:15 < sir_lewk> website can be good too
15:15 < Ox40Work> Gotta have something
15:15 < ports-_> the idea is to not have to write your number on a napkin for someone
15:15 < ports-_> Ox40Work:  no you dont
15:15 < ports-_> sir_lewk:  no website.
15:15 < Ox40Work> I like the tushaus logo tho
15:15 < sir_lewk> no u
15:15 < Ox40Work> check it out... simple, but its a logo/name in one
15:16 < ports-_> Ox40Work:  http://artofmanliness.com/2008/09/07/the-gentlemans-guide-to-the-calling-card/
15:16 < ports-_> read that
15:16 < sir_lewk> my website is important
15:16 < sir_lewk> granted, it's in an unprofessional state right now
15:17 < sir_lewk> and what the hell is wrong with our societey that we have websites telling you how to be a man?
15:18 < sir_lewk> "The card sometimes also included the name of the gentleman's club or fraternal organization a man belonged to." lulz
15:20 < ports-_> if you do not have a good website, do not include it
15:20 < ports-_> and seriously.. dont include your blog if all you do is write about your emo high school days
15:21 <@benryves> Aww, shucks. :(
15:21 < sir_lewk> well of course not
15:21  * mokomull is learning what a "resistor" does
15:22 < ports-_> name, phone number, email.
15:22 < sir_lewk> no, my website, in it's professional state, is just clean HTLM with my name, email and phone, links to my projects and hobbies, and my resume
15:22 < sir_lewk> select projects and hobbies
15:22 <@benryves> mokomull: I wonder. It's a shame the name doesn't provide you with any clues.
15:23 < sir_lewk> relevant and/or relatively nerdy ones.  well rounded is good
15:23 < mokomull> I was wondering how you have a HKLM that only contains sir_lewk's name...
15:23 <@benryves> Haha :D
15:23 < sir_lewk> whoops
15:23 < sir_lewk> :P
15:23 < sir_lewk> *HTML
15:24 <@benryves> I wonder if/when the registry will ever die. :\
15:24 < sir_lewk> windows registry?
15:25 < mokomull> benryves: When people wake up and stop using Windows :)
15:26 < sir_lewk> I think I was having this discussion in here a few days ago with people
15:27 < sir_lewk> they should ditch it asap. regardless of the consequences it has.  I'm convident that their position in the market is still strong enough to do that
15:27 <@benryves> mokomull: Well, maybe if they make something better.
15:27 < sir_lewk> they could even rename the product to "Microsoft Skylight" or something so people don't expect backward compat
15:27 < Milyardo> C:\etc?
15:28 <@benryves> Milyardo: Huh?
15:28 <@benryves> sir_lewk: Mm, a lot of Windows management is already accessible via SQL as it is.
15:28 < Milyardo> Something better :P
15:28 < sir_lewk> they should just make a POSIX-like system.  every other major operating system is
15:28 < ports-_> werd
15:28 < ports-_> and art of manliness is a great website
15:28 <@benryves> sir_lewk: Er, like Windows already has?
15:28 < ports-_> it explains a lot of old traditions, which are pretty nice and still useful
15:28 <@benryves> And I don't see what POSIX has to do with the Windows registry.
15:29 < sir_lewk> "< Milyardo> C:\etc?"
15:29 < Milyardo> sir_lewk: it already is
15:29 < sir_lewk> as opposed to the registry
15:29 <@benryves> sir_lewk: What does a file path have to do with the registry?
15:29 < sir_lewk> and /etc opposed to C:\etc
15:30 < sir_lewk> I'm saying that they should just rip the whole thing down and build a posix system
15:30 <@benryves> sir_lewk: Windows already *has* a POSIX system.
15:30 <@benryves> Or subsystem, rather.
15:30 < sir_lewk> the system calls perhaps, that's only a small part though
15:30 < sir_lewk> filesystem layout and userspace utilites is a *big* part of it
15:31 <@benryves> I have no issue with the filesystem layout under Windows, tbh. It makes sense when used correctly.
15:31 <@benryves> Unfortunately there are a large number of shoddy apps that don't use it correctly, but that's another rant. :P
15:31 < Milyardo> but in reality
15:32 < Milyardo> whats wrong with a C:\Windows\Configuration
15:32 < Milyardo> and a %USER%\Configuration
15:32 <@benryves> Milyardo: What goes in "Configuration"?
15:32 < Milyardo> with a subfolder for every installed application
15:33 <@benryves> Milyardo: Welcome to Windows NT :P
15:33 < mokomull> The problem is that makes it harder to define precedences and stuff via Group Policy
15:34 < sir_lewk> the problem I see with that Milyardo is that I can't see many apps really respecting that
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15:34 <@benryves> Application settings should *never* go in the registry, anyway.
15:35 < sir_lewk> they'd still all want to spew stuff in mydocument\mypictures\gamefiles\coolapp
15:35 <@benryves> sir_lewk: Quite, and that annoys me hugely. :(
15:35 < Milyardo> While FHS compliance is nice, FHS itself is not so nice, and its ambiguous, It's probably be best if a new FHS was adopted with input from both MS and the unix communities
15:35 < sir_lewk> I don't know how developers can do that and still sleep at night
15:36 <@benryves> sir_lewk: In some ways I prefer apps that try and write to Program Files as at least then the files end up in %userprofile%\AppData\Local\VirtualStore
15:36 < sir_lewk> yeah
15:37 < sir_lewk> it's all way to complicated for me truthfully
15:37 < sir_lewk> ~/.whatever is about as much as I can handle >_>
15:37 <@benryves> sir_lewk: Which is why MS produced documentation and easy routines to work out where to store files, which nobody read.
15:37 < sir_lewk> :-/
15:38 < sir_lewk> I think I just hate computers
15:38 < Milyardo> Computers suck
15:38 <@benryves> Hehe :D
15:38 < sir_lewk> screw em, they only make life more complicated
15:39 < Milyardo> back to the basics, bitches ad hos, thats what life is about
15:39 < sir_lewk> I wish I'd spent less of my life on computers, and more of my life partying
15:39 < sir_lewk> maybe then I'd have a social life right now
15:39 <@benryves> As for actually reading system settings, a lot of it is available via WMI (eg "SELECT * FROM Win32_PNPEntity" to get info on all PNP devices).
15:39 < sir_lewk> windows has too many complicated acronyms
15:40 < sir_lewk> not like unix at all ;P
15:40 <@benryves> sir_lewk: Apart from all those command-line utilities.
15:40 < sir_lewk> yeah :P
15:40 < sir_lewk> as I said
15:40 <@benryves> Yay PowerShell. I mean, what does "ls" mean? It's all about Get-ChildItem
15:40 < sir_lewk> I hate computers
15:41 < sir_lewk> ls == list :P
15:42 < sir_lewk> most of the stuff makes sense when you pronounce it.  of course then there is stuff that seems way more exciting than it really is if you do that
15:42 < sir_lewk> ie, "fuser" :D
15:42  * benryves goes back to *CAT
15:42 < sir_lewk> "fuser - identify processes using files or sockets" == lame
15:43 < sir_lewk> "fuser - combine atoms in exposively powerful reactions" == awesome
15:43 <@benryves> *CAT = show file catalogue.
15:43 < Milyardo> http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/6798/af20907621cbf76cee7547eco9.jpg
15:43 < Milyardo> CAT
15:43 < Milyardo> (s)
15:43 < sir_lewk> hmm
15:43 < sir_lewk> `cat` in unix prints out a file
15:44 < sir_lewk> useful for con'cat'nating things
15:44 <@E-J> sir_lewk: you can also write file with it
15:44 < sir_lewk> a silly name I think.  one of my favorite programes :)
15:44 < sir_lewk> yeah
15:44 <@E-J> cat > filename.end
15:44 < sir_lewk> it takes input and puts it out somewhere
15:44 <@benryves> copy con filename.end
15:45 <@benryves> "copy con" is a good example of somewhere CP/M is still alive and kicking as you use Ctrl+Z (SUB) to finish.
15:45 < tr1p1ea> ~1MB gif :\
15:46 <@benryves> tr1p1ea: Woo! :D
15:47 < tr1p1ea> 20fps is maybe not such a great idea
15:48 <@benryves> tr1p1ea: Wabbitemu?
15:48 < sir_lewk> http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/01/23/1341237&from=rss lawdy
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15:48 < sir_lewk> sup krisk
15:49 <+krisk> cute bowlingalleybar girl wasnt there
15:49 < tr1p1ea> ben: yeah
15:49 < sir_lewk> at the bowling ally?
15:49 <+krisk> nope
15:50 < sir_lewk> does she work there, or do you just suspect the frequents?
15:50 <+krisk> she works there, behindthe bar
15:50 <+krisk> the other one was there but she always looks angry
15:50 < sir_lewk> ah
15:50 <+krisk> even though she should recognize me from chilling at the cafe
15:50 < tr1p1ea> http://i39.tinypic.com/n35d04.gif <-- xLIB old vs new! :)
15:50 <+krisk> twice
15:51 <+krisk> i guess ill have to ask my friend to check with his brother (who knows her and brought her along to the cafe)
15:51 < sir_lewk> you should find a cafechick
15:51 < sir_lewk> some chick that sits there all day and reads or something
15:51 < sir_lewk> sexy
15:51 <+krisk> hmm cute girls of my type dont really go there
15:52 <+krisk> theres a bar where alt people go (including the grumpy bowlingalley girl)
15:52 <+krisk> but i dont know anyone who goes there myself
15:52 < Ox40Work> grumpyBowlingAllyChick?
15:52 <@benryves> Damn you, tr1p1ea, you've won this round..!
15:52 <+krisk> yes ox
15:53 < tr1p1ea> :?
15:54 < tr1p1ea> atm thats the only thing you can do with it, make a map that you can scroll around (tho it does support tile collisions)
15:54 <@benryves> tr1p1ea: Your demo is faster than my rip off of your demo. :P
15:54 < tr1p1ea> it will get slower once i add stuff
15:54 < tr1p1ea> oh, hehe
15:55 <@E-J> sir_lewk: here is example from year 2007 http://pop.yle.fi/lista/albumit?id=3096 when in top40 album chart were some metal albums (although albums of that one band were little cheaper or something like that)
15:56 < tr1p1ea> wow id forgotten how fast the demo was in BBC BASIC!
15:57 <@benryves> tr1p1ea: It cheats, somewhat; it's basically doing regular ASCII tilemapping but changes the appearance of several characters.
15:57 < tr1p1ea> shrug, everything is cheating when you think about it hard enough :)
15:58 < tr1p1ea> BBC BASIC is where its at!
15:58 < sir_lewk> E-J: cool, thanks!
15:58 <@benryves> tr1p1ea: Not until I can get a better on-calc editor. :(
15:59 < tr1p1ea> i dont have any probs with the editor
15:59 < tr1p1ea> as a matter of fact i think its quite cool :)
15:59 <@E-J> benryves: did you like judas priest type of music?
15:59 <@benryves> E-J: I do like the Judas Priest I've heard very much and keep meaning to buy some of their albums (all I have are a few tracks off compilations).
16:00 <@benryves> Cool that they sound almost identical live to their studio recordings too. :D
16:00 <@Andy_J> Screaming for Vengeance album in rock band is the best album up for DLC at this time. >_>
16:00 <@E-J> this band is maybe like jp http://www.myspace.com/metalarmour
16:00 <@Andy_J> though a bit boring on bass =/
16:01 <@benryves> E-J: Thanks for the recommendation *bookmarks*
16:01 < tr1p1ea> i dont think there is need for ASM libs anymore
16:03 <@benryves> Why's that, tr1p1ea? There are certain things you can't really do (or are too slow to do) in the higher-level languages.
16:03 < tr1p1ea> what about BBC BASIC?
16:04 < sir_lewk> bbc basic seems to be pretty damn fast
16:04 < tr1p1ea> BBC BASIC is the future
16:04 < tr1p1ea> plus you can just write an asm routine right?
16:04 <@E-J> ben ryves is the future?
16:04 < sir_lewk> also, is BBC BASIC associated with the BBC in any way?
16:05 < tr1p1ea> british broadcasting corop?
16:05 < sir_lewk> yeah
16:05 < tr1p1ea> corp*
16:05 <@benryves> sir_lewk: Yes, the BBC commissioned Acorn to design and build them a computer for their computer literacy programme. Acorn produced the BBC Micro, and the default language ROM that came with it was BASIC.
16:05 < sir_lewk> neat
16:05 <@benryves> (You could install your own language ROMs if you so wished - the machine was extremely flexible for its time).
16:05 < tr1p1ea> BBC has the best programming
16:06 < sir_lewk> sounds fun
16:06 < tr1p1ea> i wish we got it here
16:06 <@E-J> benryves: that band's demo is called "sonichouse tape" and one way they are selling it, is c-casette
16:06 <@benryves> tr1p1ea: BBC Prime?
16:06 < sir_lewk> tr1p1ea: yeah it does
16:06 < tr1p1ea> benryves: the lot
16:06 <+krisk> yo what's up with azians at VT
16:06 < tr1p1ea> :(
16:06 < tr1p1ea> crazy
16:06 <@benryves> tr1p1ea: Hm?
16:07 <@benryves> E-J: Heh, oldschool. :D
16:07 <@E-J> which channel showed fast show there?
16:07 <@benryves> The BBC
16:08 <@E-J> one of the british series that have shown here
16:08 <@E-J> still some people quote things from it
16:08 < sir_lewk> the UK could recolonize the world by just offering people free BBC
16:08 <@E-J> "suits you sir", "...and i was very very drunk", etc
16:09 < Nikky> hahahaahhahaha BBC
16:09 <@E-J> sir_lewk: they offer bbc world
16:09 <@benryves> sir_lewk: They don't even give us free BBC. :P
16:09 < sir_lewk> oh
16:09 < sir_lewk> well they should :P
16:09 < Nikky> they pay hella cash per tv
16:09 < Ox40Work> Hey, I woke up and there was this chick "missy" on my couch...!!!!!
16:09 < tr1p1ea> top gear is awesome
16:10 <@E-J> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPiGJBHVadA
16:10 <@benryves> sir_lewk: Heh. It's about £140/year for a TV licence, which mostly goes towards funding the BBC. On the plus side, the programmes are usually good and there are no adverts (especially good when watching a film).
16:10 < Nikky> !k Ox40Work 
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16:10 < tr1p1ea> 140 quid a year?
16:10 < tr1p1ea> thats alright
16:10 <@benryves> tr1p1ea: Per household.
16:10 < sir_lewk> worth it I'd say
16:10 < sir_lewk> oh, definetly not bad then
16:11 <@E-J> benryves: how they superwise that everyone pays?
16:11 <+krisk> fuck yeah top gear
16:11 < sir_lewk> do you have to pay it?  what if you don't have a TV?
16:11 < tr1p1ea> my mum kicked the tv out of the house when i was younger
16:12 < tr1p1ea> i set it up in the shed to play sega
16:12 <@benryves> E-J: By being extremely threatening if you haven't paid it, even if you don't own a TV. :\
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16:12 < tr1p1ea> she read every book in the house and got really bored after like a 6 months
16:12 < sir_lewk> oh, Nikky. I had a revelation
16:12 < tr1p1ea> then moved it back in and got pay :)
16:12 < Nikky> did you
16:12 < sir_lewk> clinton is a neocon and obama got elected as part of a facist conspiracy
16:13 < sir_lewk> (to which I am opposed)
16:13 < sir_lewk> the facist conspiracy that is
16:13 < Nikky> yep
16:13 < Nikky> and he messed up the oath so he could be resworn in without a bible
16:13 <+krisk> isnt he christian?
16:14 < sir_lewk> think about it.  They put a whole city, the NATIONAL CAPITOL, under martial law and NOBODY even batted an eye!
16:14 <+krisk> ?
16:14 < sir_lewk> the whole thing was a test to see if they could do it
16:14 <@E-J> benryves: here tv permission checkers go from door to door in those houses who haven't pay it and if someone lets that guy in and has tv, he have to pay the fee
16:14 < sir_lewk> it was basically a reverse quarentine
16:14 <@E-J> i pay because i live in first floor and i have a tv
16:14 <+krisk> what are you talking about sir_lewk
16:14 <@E-J> but most of my friends don't
16:15 <@E-J> in our school campus there are maybe 20 permissions and over 3000 people living
16:15 < tr1p1ea> wehave 15 free-to-air channels here
16:15 <@E-J> and most of them have a tv
16:15 < sir_lewk> they locked down the entire city, had military close off bridges and streets
16:16 < sir_lewk> military checkpoints every block
16:16 < sir_lewk> etc etc
16:16 < sir_lewk> the whole thing was a dryrun to see what they could do
16:16 <@E-J> tr1p1ea: about same here, now that whole network is digitalized
16:16 <+krisk> so?
16:16 < sir_lewk> soooooo
16:16 <@E-J> before that only 4 channels
16:16 < sir_lewk> facism == bad right?  I think so
16:16 < Speler> Nope
16:16 < Speler> facism is awesome dude
16:16 <@E-J> it depends
16:17 < sir_lewk> you are nuts
16:17 < Speler> Super-rad
16:17 <+krisk> how is using military security for a good reason facism?
16:17 <@E-J> facism can be good, but mostly it isn't
16:17 <@E-J> like communism
16:17 < tr1p1ea> in theory
16:17 < sir_lewk> intense rightwing nationalism
16:17 < tr1p1ea> in practice with human beings however :(
16:17 < sir_lewk> I can't see much good coming of that
16:17 <@benryves> tr1p1ea: You have HD over DVB-T, though. Our DVB-T is all MPEG-2 SD still.
16:17 < tr1p1ea> :<
16:18 <@E-J> benryves: even we do have some channels HD
16:18 <@Andy_J> at least we're finally axing the analog broadcasters in about a month
16:18 <@E-J> not many though
16:18 < sir_lewk> what's worse, I still can't find comprehensive data on exactly what they did.  nobody seems to care
16:18 <@E-J> some not free channels and maybe one free
16:18 <+krisk> because theres nothing to care about
16:19 < sir_lewk> of course there isn't
16:19 < sir_lewk> the first thing you do when you set up a facist state is convince people to not care
16:20 <@benryves> E-J: Mm, I think the BBC have run some tests but it would require anyone using a set-top box to upgrade.
16:20 <+krisk> so how was this part of facism?
16:20 < sir_lewk> it was a test, too see if they could pull it off
16:20 <@E-J> benryves: well, for me it isn't so big deal because i don't have hdtv
16:21 <+krisk> if anything you should argue that the 2 wars in the middle east are facism
16:21 <+krisk> hell boama is already doing things that oppose indicators to facism
16:21 < sir_lewk> they wanted to know how much they could do so they contrived a situation in which they would have an excuse to lock down a city
16:21 <@E-J> and my eyevision isn't great so i would think vhs image is good enough :P
16:21 <+krisk> if they even wanted to know how much they could do it still has nothing to do with facism
16:21 <+krisk> not all military defense of a governing body is facism you know
16:22 < sir_lewk> wars are pretty neutral, communists like them as much as facists
16:22 < tr1p1ea> please im sick of politics
16:22 < sir_lewk> this sort of evil could only be rightwing though
16:22 <@benryves> E-J: Hehe :D I watch TV on my PC screen so it would be quite nice to have HD. That said my software doesn't even deinterlace so I can't really comment on the quality.
16:23 <@E-J> sir_lewk: you live in country where is only right-side parties
16:23 <+krisk> the existence of military power doesnt imply a facist motive
16:23 < sir_lewk> E-J: exactly
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16:23 < Ox40Work> ok... warranted?
16:23 <@E-J> well both 2 bigs are rightside
16:24 < sir_lewk> krisk: military power being wielded by rightwing politicians against the populace and the whole thing being played off as no big deal spikes my facism detector
16:24 < sir_lewk> all I'm sayin
16:24 <+krisk> well then it shouldve been spiking crazy the past 8 years, not now
16:25 <+krisk> military power in facism is used to promote the nation
16:25 <+krisk> see iraq and afghanistan
16:25 < sir_lewk> yes, it should have
16:25 < sir_lewk> it's all the same plot though
16:25  * benryves gets the urge to go and watch Starship Troopers. >_>
16:25 <+krisk> that actually IS facism
16:25 <+krisk> just using a military for national security doesnty have to be facism at all
16:25 < sir_lewk> you can't have facism when everyone is looking for it.  it needs to creep up on you
16:26 < sir_lewk> everyone knew bush was a facist, no big deal. under control
16:26 <+krisk> now if they were suppressing anti obama demonstrations or expressions then yes that would be facism
16:26 <+krisk> see olympics in china
16:26 < sir_lewk> but now the problem is "aleviated".  people are complacent now
16:26 <+krisk> but obama is actually moving against it
16:26 < sir_lewk> superficially
16:26 < sir_lewk> he's still pretty damn rightwing
16:27 <+krisk> he is closing guantanamo and cia camps
16:27 < sir_lewk> he is the figurehead that all of the facists can point to and yell, "See! we're not facists!"
16:27 <+krisk> thats undoing facism
16:27 < sir_lewk> there are far greater threats than gitmo and cia camps
16:28 < sir_lewk> thats the shit we know about.  it *had* to go regardless
16:28 <+krisk> but he cant undo those just like that
16:28 <+krisk> you cant possibly turn undoing facism like that into being facist
16:28 <+krisk> youll have to bring other evidence forward
16:28 < sir_lewk> I'm doing so
16:28 <+krisk> where
16:28 < sir_lewk> they put an ENTIRE CITY under martial law!
16:29 < sir_lewk> ENTIRE CITY
16:29 < sir_lewk> that's extrodinary
16:29 <+krisk> which is national security not facism
16:29 <+krisk> yes it is
16:29 < sir_lewk> of course it is
16:29 < sir_lewk> facism is always about national security
16:29 < Ox40Work> lol, hows this: my roomie let her hin
16:29 < Ox40Work> s/hin/in.
16:29 <+krisk> national security is also about national security, no facism needed
16:29 < Ox40Work> damn s/s\/hin\/in\./s\/hin\/in\//
16:29 < sir_lewk> facists don't call themselves facists
16:29 < Ox40Work> :P
16:30 <+krisk> no but they do make facist moves
16:30 < sir_lewk> mmhm
16:30 < Milyardo> they call themselves Patriots :(
16:30 < sir_lewk> exactly!
16:30 < Speler> I'm gonna form a anarchopunk band
16:30 <+krisk> dont forget actual patriots can also call themselves that
16:30 < Speler> And then I'll be angry about the government
16:30 < Speler> And stuff
16:31 < Speler> Then I can fit in here :D
16:31 < Speler> Sorry... kinda blazed right now.  I'm gettin me some food
16:31 < Ox40Work> lol 'blazed'
16:31 < Ox40Work> :) nice job
16:32 <+krisk> youll have to show rights are being denied to individuals as direct result of boama's actions
16:32 <+krisk> rather than given
16:32 < Ox40Work> boama!
16:32 < Ox40Work> B. Hussein Obama?
16:32 <+krisk> :o
16:32 <+krisk> BROBAMA
16:32 < sir_lewk> bbl, lunch
16:33 < Speler> Brobama
16:33 < Speler> Brosepher, lord of the brocean
16:33 < sir_lewk> krisk: I'm not sure how much more I can emphasize that they locked down an entire city, but whatevs
16:33 < tr1p1ea> Brosama?
16:33 < Speler> Err... Broseiden
16:33 < Speler> Not brosepher
16:33 <+krisk> they can lock down the entire country if they wwant
16:33 < Speler> Confusin' my gods
16:34 < Ox40Work> krisk: not true....
16:34 < Ox40Work> Well, I guess they can...
16:34 < Ox40Work> But Constitutionally debatable
16:35 <+krisk> yeah i mean technically they easily can
16:35 <@Andy_J> how is it constitutionally debatable?
16:35 <+krisk> obviously its not gonna be morally justifyable without a good direct reason that actually exists
16:36 <+krisk> but unless they lied about obama being there it seems they were pretty just
16:36 < Ox40Work> Andy_J: the constitution does not specifically give that right
16:36 < Ox40Work> and, if the constitution doesnt give it, it is implied as denied
16:36 <@Andy_J> It is implied with defending the country
16:36 < Ox40Work> Thats _ALL_ the federal gvmt should do
16:36 < Ox40Work> defend our country...
16:36 <+krisk> its certainly not neggated by the constitution
16:36 < Ox40Work> thats IT
16:36 < Ox40Work> not give out coupons for antenna TV converter boxes
16:36 <@Andy_J> The Constitution gives them the power to pass laws. That's all they need.
16:36 < tr1p1ea> the bloody american constitution
16:37 < tr1p1ea> its all you ever hear about
16:37 <+krisk> it has no relevancy whatsoever
16:37 <@Andy_J> Now how is that not logical for the FCC to do, since they govern that stuff anyway?
16:37 < Ox40Work> krisk: it does too
16:37 < tr1p1ea> im not sure anyone in this country has mentioned our constitution EVER
16:37 <@Andy_J> The Constitution doesn't give a provision for the FCC. Let's just nix the entire department!
16:37 < Ox40Work> Andy_J: When we switched from tapes to CDs, did we get coupons for a CD player?
16:37 < Ox40Work> Andy_J: lets do it
16:37 < Ox40Work> Private Corporations FTW
16:37 <+krisk> same here, it has no relevancy since everything is governed by more exact laws
16:37 <@Andy_J> Ox40Work: That is completely different. CDs and cassette tapes aren't regulated by the government.
16:38 <@Andy_J> Airwaves are.
16:38 <@Andy_J> Pick a better comparison next time.
16:38 < tr1p1ea> yeah!
16:38 <+krisk> also you need radio/tv as part of defending the nation
16:38  * tr1p1ea takes stance behind Andy_J
16:38 <+krisk> in case of emergency you can give information to people
16:38 <+krisk> thus defending them
16:38 < tr1p1ea> while giving them cancer at the same time
16:38 <@Andy_J> ^ krisk and that's why they need to regulate the airwaves, and they want to have more spectrum to do so in
16:39 <@Andy_J> Ox40Work: you clearly lost this discussion :)
16:39 < Ox40Work> nope
16:39 < tr1p1ea> k its seriously passed my btime
16:39 < tr1p1ea> NIGHT!
16:39 <+krisk> im sure they do but i mean then it makes sense to ensure as many people can get information in times of need as possible
16:39 <@benryves> 'night, tr1p1ea!
16:39 < Ox40Work> NIX the FCC
16:39 <+krisk> night night
16:39 < Ox40Work> period
16:39 < Ox40Work> done
16:39 <@Andy_J> Ox40Work: It doesn't work that way.
16:39 < Ox40Work> jup it does
16:39 <@Andy_J> The government owns the airspace above the country, which is where the airwaves are.
16:39 < Ox40Work> nix the IRS
16:39 <@Andy_J> They regulate it.
16:39 < Ox40Work> nix H&R block
16:39 <@Andy_J> The constition DOES provide for income tax....
16:39 < Ox40Work> Andy_J: false
16:39 <@Andy_J> H&R block isn't even owned by the government!
16:40 <@Andy_J> uh, 16th amendment?
16:40 < Ox40Work> Andy_J: i know
16:40 <+krisk> Nasa Image eXchange?
16:40 < Ox40Work> Andy_J: amendment != constitution
16:40 <@Andy_J> ....
16:40 <@Andy_J> amendment == consitution
16:40 < Ox40Work> naw
16:40 <@Andy_J> due to the wording allowing for amendments in the original constitution
16:40 < Ox40Work> I can amend it to say that I rule the world
16:40 <@Andy_J> read the damn thing sometime
16:40 <@Andy_J> If you get 3/4 of the states to agree, then yes
16:40 < Ox40Work> We the people of the United states
16:40 <+krisk> no ox you cant amend it
16:40 < Ox40Work> in order to form a more perfect union
16:40 < Ox40Work> establish justice, ensure domestic tranquillity
16:40 <+krisk> you have no such jurisdiction
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16:41 -!- Ox40Work was kicked from #tcpa by Andy_J [Read the constitution before making false claims about it.]
16:41 <+krisk> "Constitutional amendment, a change made to a written constitution"
16:41 <+krisk> its a change not a seperate addition
16:41 <+krisk> oh
16:42 <@benryves> I've never heard anyone try quoting the Magna Carta over here.
16:42 <+krisk> Andy_J: facist!
16:42 <+krisk> :P
16:42 <@Andy_J> Article 5 is completely about amendments and how it's the same as any other part of the Constitution
16:42 <@Andy_J> So I don't see how he can even pretend that Amendments aren't part of the Constitution.
16:43 <@Andy_J> If he removes that ban before it expires I'm revoking his access to do so.
16:43 <@benryves> Andy_J: By not having a clue, I reckon. :P
16:43 <@Andy_J> And setting the ban for much longer.
16:43 <@Andy_J> benryves: the thing is, studying the Constitution is supposed to be part of grade school around here. =\
16:43 <@Andy_J> So he's clearly an idiot.
16:44 <@benryves> Heh :)
16:44 <+krisk> even i understand the principle of an ammendment
16:44 <@Andy_J> That's like saying the Bill of Rights isn't valid.
16:44 <@Andy_J> So Free Speech doesn't actually exist.
16:44 <+krisk> its a pretty universal concept applied to most (all?) constitutions
16:50 <+krisk> "So it seems that life is a cosmic crapshoot. We're the Canadian geese in a flock, looking forward to our next meal of clover and alfalfa when the universe gives us its version of a deadly wedgie by throwing a jet engine into our path. Maybe you escaped this time, but Honker and Mrs. Featherbottom didn't."
16:52 <@benryves> http://www.b3ta.com/board/9099880 :D
16:52 <+krisk> haha
16:52 < TheStorm> lulz
16:52 <+krisk> fuck yeha dark humor
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17:02 <@Andy_J> 11:44:14 <@Andy_J> That's like saying the Bill of Rights isn't valid.
17:02 <@Andy_J> 11:44:23 <@Andy_J> So Free Speech doesn't actually exist.
17:02 <@Andy_J> And that's all I have to say on the matter.
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17:03 <+krisk> so anyway
17:03 <+krisk> FEAR2 is AWESOME
17:04 <+krisk> I was playing the demo last night in total darkness with headphones on almost max volume
17:04 <+krisk> shat many brix
17:08  * Speler has phood
17:15 < Ox40Work> Andy_J: when you live in the US, you can talk...
17:16 <@Andy_J> I do, asshat.
17:17 < Ox40Work> lol
17:18 < Ox40Work> Andy_J, Ej..... you both end in J
17:18 < Ox40Work> :P
17:18 < Ox40Work> Actually, a new amendment has been passed that removes your right to speak....
17:18 < Ox40Work> so... will you stop talking?
17:18 <@benryves> How on Earth can you confuse E-J and Andy_J? o_O
17:21 < Ox40Work> -J? _j?
17:21 < Ox40Work> idk.
17:21 < TheStorm> fail
17:21 < Ox40Work> lots of you guys are not like us uncool-amerifags...
17:22 < Milyardo> I am
17:22 < Ox40Work> Andy JANTAAAAAa
17:22 < Milyardo> for sure
17:22 < Ox40Work> jup jup
17:22 < Ox40Work> fo sho
17:22 < TheStorm> BTW Ox40Work how mcuh do you get paid to work on your works website?
17:22 < Milyardo> Nikky too
17:22 < TheStorm> much*
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17:23 <@E-J> hmm, what the hell is going on here
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17:36 < Speler> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neCIg0BiXbE
17:42 <@Andy_J> E-J: Ox40Work being his usual, stupid self.
17:45 <@E-J> Andy_J: that was just retoric "huoh" :)
17:45 <@E-J> http://apina.biz/12083
17:46 < JoelS> Merthsoft: btw, did you ever solve the problem?
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17:57 <@E-J> tr1p1ea: hmmm, i didn't know that in melbourne was pesäpallo world cup http://www.pesis.fi/pesapalloliitto/international_site/
17:57 <@E-J> and apparently even brits are going to have team next summer
17:58 <@E-J> benryves: there is your change to cap to british national team :)
17:58 <@E-J> i don't think level of players is very high
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18:00 <@benryves> Heh :P
18:01 <+krisk> amerifags are cool again because of obama
18:01 <+krisk> our political figure that was gonna bring us CHANGE got shot and killed just before elections some years ago so christian parties are now busy banning everything that makes NL awesome
18:02 <+krisk> so now europe is uncool
18:02 <+krisk> : (
18:03 <@E-J> last time finland won germany on final 2-0 (8-0, 18-0)
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18:09 < Ox40Work> I had a dream that obama was shot
18:09 < Ox40Work> it was the best moment of my life...
18:09 < Ox40Work> I was there, I watched it happen...
18:10 < Ox40Work> then the ywent to the ceremony, and they put his body in a backpack that mrs. obama carried around during the ceremony...
18:10 < Ox40Work> TheStorm: Noe enough... why?
18:10 < sir_lewk> Ox40Work: you probably need help...
18:11 < TheStorm> just wondering so I can compare it to what I and others get paid
18:13 <@E-J> after graduation i hopefully get average wage of M.Sc. (techn) which is here 3100 euros per month
18:13 <@E-J> but i can live with less
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18:15 <+mtgrss111> 'allo
18:17 < sir_lewk> http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1102267&cid=26576193
18:17 < sir_lewk> hahahaha
18:22 < TheStorm> well that beats my $7.00 /hr
18:22 < Ox40Work> :P
18:22 < Ox40Work> But, just webmaster should be > $20/hr
18:22 < Ox40Work> s/>/>=/
18:22 <@E-J> TheStorm: i got 10 euros per hr when i worked that bouncer
18:22 <@E-J> as*
18:23 < TheStorm> but I don't get much time to work on the site, though I'm starting to learn PHP so I may be able to bring the site to the next level
18:23 < TheStorm> but first we need to find a host who doesn't fail
18:24 < TheStorm> aka we're paying about $35/month for 200MB of webspace, and that includes email
18:24 <@E-J> and last summer my wage was 1900 euros per month and when i continued working on that same as parttime i got 14 euros per hour
18:24 < TheStorm> nice
18:25 <@E-J> -taxes but luckily i have only 10.5% tax rate
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18:30 < TheStorm> anyone have suggestions for webhosts?
18:30 < TheStorm> We've been looking at surpass, 1and1, and gomwcs.
18:31 < Barrett> what do you want and how much do you want to pay?
18:31 <@E-J> TheStorm: nebula?
18:32 < TheStorm> we're looking at the around $5-15 range
18:32 <@E-J> though i don't know do they provide services to people outside finland
18:32 < TheStorm> we don't need much webspace just mroe than we have currently
18:32 < TheStorm> more*
18:33 < TheStorm> $5-15/month*
18:33 < Barrett> software? bandwidth? disk space?
18:33 <@E-J> nebula's webhotel pro is 15 _euros_ month
18:34 < TheStorm> well right now we are just useing all HTML + CSS but that might change
18:34 < Barrett> do you just use FTP?
18:34 < TheStorm> yeah
18:34 < Barrett> to transfer your files
18:34 <@E-J> http://www.nebula.fi/english.php
18:34 < Barrett> do you use cPanel or some type of control panel like that?
18:34 <@E-J> simpsons ->
18:34 < TheStorm> yes
18:35 < TheStorm> our current host uses cpanel
18:35 < i_c-Y> what do you need  in the host?
18:35 < Barrett> ah, I would offer a $5/month package but can't offer cPanel
18:35 < TheStorm> well surrpass hosting has a $4/month package that look real nice
18:35 < TheStorm> looks*
18:35 <+krisk> webmasters dont get 20/hr fulltime
18:36 < TheStorm> well Barrett any type of panel is fine
18:36 < Barrett> TheStorm: which parts of cPanel do you use?
18:37 < TheStorm> the webmail stuff and the stats pages
18:37 < Barrett> all it really is is links to a bunch of front-end management and statistic software
18:38 < TheStorm> true but its nice to have
18:38 < Barrett> well, I can do both of those... if you want I can give you a month free and you can see if you like it
18:38 < Barrett> but not right now.  right now I have to go to work
18:39 < TheStorm> well it'll be a while before we can switch from our current host because of the contract.
18:39 < TheStorm> at least a month if not more
18:40 < Barrett> we can work something out if you're interested... later.
18:40 < TheStorm> ok cool I'll be at work after 2PM central
18:43 <@E-J> http://naurunappula.com/z/458464/
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18:49 < ports-> hi
18:50 <+prime_> hi
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19:08 < ports-_> hilol
19:10 <@E-J> finnish eurovision elimination, one candidate is sign language rap band
19:11 <+krisk> lolwut
19:11 <@E-J> krisk: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJD_4bQxIoM
19:13 < Ox40Work> dude, hostmonster ftw
19:13 < Ox40Work> $6.99/mo, free domain for life...
19:15 < Ox40Work> and a ton of room...
19:15 < Ox40Work> Disk space usage: 244.12/614400 MB
19:16 < sir_lewk> oh wow
19:16 < sir_lewk> how much bandwidth?
19:16 < sir_lewk> and do they give you *nix shell access?
19:17 < Ox40Work> Monthly Bandwidth Transfer
19:17 < Ox40Work> 	9.6/? MB
19:17 < Ox40Work> unlimited
19:17 < Ox40Work> sir_lewk: you have to send in a scan of your driver's license... but yes
19:17 < Ox40Work> Email Accounts
19:17 < Ox40Work> 	2/5000
19:18 < Ox40Work> and you can add on domains for free, domain costs $, the hosting is on the same account
19:19 < sir_lewk> uhm, ew
19:20 < sir_lewk> wtf would they need my drivers license?
19:20 < sir_lewk> besides that, looks pretty badass
19:20 <+krisk> so if you put porn on your account they can say you did it
19:21 <+krisk> and not some random guy who used your account
19:21 < sir_lewk> mmm
19:21 <+krisk> E-J: you finnish so crazeh
19:21 < sir_lewk> they're getting my credit card number already
19:21 <+krisk> they need id
19:21 <+krisk> law stuff
19:22 <+krisk> its not wierd
19:22 <+krisk> move on
19:22 < sir_lewk> yeah, I gues
19:22 < sir_lewk> and what is, "$50 Free Google Credits"
19:22 < sir_lewk> sounds fun
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19:23 <@E-J> krisk: i think our broadcasting company is crazy, because they have invited all the artists to this elimination round
19:23 < sir_lewk> oh, for adsense
19:23 < sir_lewk> cool
19:23 <@E-J> so no death metal or something like that
19:23 <+krisk> lordi was silly
19:24 < sir_lewk> finland must be the most metal country ever
19:24 <@E-J> which might win
19:24 < sir_lewk> lordi is hilarious
19:24 <+krisk> a serious metal band wouldve been cooler
19:24 <@E-J> yep
19:24 <+krisk> but eurovision is lame and gay anyway
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19:25 <+krisk> but an artsy female fronted gothic metal band would seem much more fitting than lordi was
19:25 <@E-J> once nightwish tried but finnish eurovision fanatics didn't like it so we got some finnish swedish woman there
19:26 <+krisk> hmm
19:26 < sir_lewk> nightwish is pretty good
19:26 <+krisk> yeah they would seem like a good choice for it
19:26 <@E-J> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXa8Y1GS-TQ
19:27 <@E-J> that was their canditate song
19:27 < Ox40Work> sir_lewk: pretty bad-ass hosting company, huh?
19:27 < Ox40Work> you get MySQL, of course...
19:27 < Ox40Work> 100 databases...
19:27 < sir_lewk> yeah, that looks really
19:27 < sir_lewk> nice
19:27 <+krisk> hmm maybe they should try again with another song
19:28 < sir_lewk> If I had something worth actually getting hosted I'd go with them ;)
19:28 < Ox40Work> :) sir_lewk: I have been nothing but happy with them... GoDaddy is a different story. Hostmonster is good tho.
19:28 < sir_lewk> what song was it?
19:28 < Ox40Work> sir_lewk: if you get a domain, I can add it on and give you FTP access ;)
19:28 <+krisk> sleepwalker
19:28 <@E-J> sir_lewk: sleepwalker (i posted the link... but you are apparently at work)
19:28 < Ox40Work> sirlewk.Ox40.us?
19:28 < sir_lewk> lol, thanks anyways.  I don't have much of anything
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19:29 < Ox40Work> or sirlewk.impoll.org :)
19:29 < Ox40Work> lol
19:29 <+krisk> lulz
19:29 < sir_lewk> E-J: yeah, work :/
19:29 < sir_lewk> I just downloaded a bunch of nightwish yesterday, someone told me about them :)
19:29 < Ox40Work> nightwish... great band
19:30 < sir_lewk> also, I first heard about lordi yesterday too, from someone different
19:30 < sir_lewk> weird
19:30 <+krisk> i dont really like nightwish, not my thing
19:30 <@E-J> i have all nightwish albums bought
19:31 <@E-J> not collections
19:31 <+krisk> but i would put them ahead of lordi O_o
19:31 <@E-J> lordi is just bad rock
19:31 < Speler> Lolnightwish
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19:32 < sir_lewk> from what I've heard, lordi seems pretty musically sound
19:32 < sir_lewk> *"musically solid".  avoid any puns there ;P
19:33 <+krisk> solid shit yes
19:33 < sir_lewk> hmm
19:33 < sir_lewk> oh well
19:33 <+krisk> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZthcZTx-oA
19:33 < sir_lewk> at work :(
19:34 < sir_lewk> I got some Sigur Ros recently
19:34 < sir_lewk> they are rather good I think
19:34 < V200> TheStorm: here?
19:35 < TheStorm> yeah
19:35 < sir_lewk> V200: I thought you were a bot
19:35  * Tari doesn't much care for the old nightwish
19:35 < Tari> newest album is good
19:35 < V200> sir_lewk: I am. And I have a personality.
19:35 < sir_lewk> lies
19:35 <@E-J> today i just bought little more music from 2 different stores, there are music sales in finland
19:35 <+krisk> lol buying music
19:36 < sir_lewk> cool
19:36 < TheStorm> V200 is controlled my Nikky
19:36 < V200> TheStorm: get my PM?
19:36 < sir_lewk> I buy music, when it's good enough and they are a small unsigned band
19:36 < i_c-Y> TheStorm: might not be Nikky - could be Barrett :x
19:36 < sir_lewk> gonna buy me the newest White Town album tonight I think
19:36 < Speler> I buy concert tickets and music directly from small bands
19:36 < TheStorm> yeah I noticed that
19:36 < Speler> And records
19:37 < sir_lewk> "14:35 < V200> sir_lewk: I am. And I have a personality."  That seemes like a sentance Nikky would form
19:37 <@E-J> http://www.firebox.fi/?p=en.offers.html
19:37 < V200> currently this is barrett
19:37 < TheStorm> its barret
19:37 < sir_lewk> suuuuuuuure
19:37 < sir_lewk> :P
19:37 <@E-J> i buy music that i like
19:37 < i_c-Y> that's what Barrett wants you to think
19:38 < sir_lewk> I'm thinking about buying NiNs Ghosts II-IV
19:38 < sir_lewk> I certainly do not pirate NiN though
19:39 <@Andy_J> that'd be biting the hand that feeds you, or sometihng
19:40 <@Andy_J> *rimshot*
19:40 <+krisk> huh?
19:40 <@E-J> hmm, apparently firebox will send to usa at same price they send to finland :o
19:40 < sir_lewk> dunno, but I completely respect their new business model
19:40 < sir_lewk> whoa, nice
19:41 <@Andy_J> *his?
19:41 < sir_lewk> whatever
19:42 < sir_lewk> nin is more than just trent reznor isn't it?
19:42 <@E-J> i can't see here http://www.firebox.fi/?p=en.info.html any different information
19:42 <@E-J> sir_lewk: trent makes all the music, but on live they are band
19:42 <@Andy_J> not really
19:42 <@E-J> i have seen them once
19:42 <@Andy_J> he's the only official member
19:42 < sir_lewk> hmm
19:42  * Andy_J did not know it started in cleveland
19:43 < sir_lewk> whatever, same difference.  I repect them releasing some music for free, and I respect them for selling it non-DRMed
19:43 <@Andy_J> ^
19:43 < sir_lewk> using flac too if you want it just takes the cake
19:43 < Speler> Most of my favorite music is available online from the bands for free
19:44 < sir_lewk> yeah, same
19:44 < TheStorm> bbl work
19:44 < Speler> Community Records, Quote Unquote, etc
19:44 <@E-J> at same festival i saw NIN and last gig of the gathering with anneke
19:44 <+krisk> they quit? : (
19:44 <@E-J> krisk: anneke left
19:44 < sir_lewk> they are currently on tour I thought O.o
19:44 <+krisk> oh just anneke
19:45 <@E-J> of course there were normals, like amorphis and sonata arctica
19:45 <@E-J> and ... hanoi rocks
19:45 < sir_lewk> as in towers of hanoi?
19:45 < sir_lewk> love that game :)
19:46 <@E-J> nope, some finnish band whose biggest song is ccr cover
19:46 < sir_lewk> hmm, haven't heard of them
19:46 <@E-J> and their drummer died when some mötley grüe guy drive car on drugs
19:47 <@E-J> they were "popular" on 70es or 80es
19:47 < sir_lewk> oh, hmm
19:48 <@E-J> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanoi_Rocks
19:49 < sir_lewk> oh oh, "rocks" is part of the name too
19:49 < sir_lewk> hmm, do they rock?
19:50 <@E-J> up around the bend was that cover
19:50 <@E-J> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_Steps_From_The_Move
19:52 < Speler> Mayhem
19:52 < Speler> That's the best band evar
19:53 < Speler> They're live album cover is a picture of there singer with a bullet wound in his head
19:53 < Speler> They've burned down many churches
19:53 <@_Auron_> Their*
19:53 < Speler> Several members have been killed by other members
19:53 < Speler> Etc
19:53 < Tari> that album cover is a bootleg album
19:53 < Tari> not official
19:53 < Speler> Nonetheless
19:54 < Speler> The first thing they did when they found his body was go to the store and get a camera
19:54 <@_Auron_> how lame
19:54 < Speler> The made necklaces out of bones lol
19:55 <@E-J> if norwegians and swedish bands would do more music and less crimes their music would be great :)
19:55 < Ox40Work> yay bone necklace
19:55 < Speler> Psh, the music sucks
19:55 < Speler> It's the crimes that make them amusing
19:56 <@E-J> dissection guy was several years in prison because of some hate kill and after he got free, few years, one album and suicide
19:57 <@E-J> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_N%C3%B6dtveidt
19:57 <@E-J> "Nödtveidt was convicted of being an accessory to murder[2], in the killing of the 38-year-old homosexual Algerian Josef Ben Meddour, in 1997."
19:59 <+mtgrss111> barack me obamadeus!
19:59 <+mtgrss111> lulz
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20:01 < sir_lewk> !seen kingtut
20:01 <@efneTI86> sir_lewk, I don't remember seeing kingtut.
20:01 <@E-J> http://naurunappula.com/kuvat/454514/jesus_use_me
20:01 < sir_lewk> !seen smart_s_cock
20:02 < sir_lewk> damn :(
20:02 <@E-J> !seen sir_lewk's father
20:02 <@E-J> no darth there... :)
20:03 < sir_lewk> lol
20:03 <+mtgrss111> yo
20:03 < sir_lewk> you have *noooo* idea how many times I've heard darth vader jokes ;P
20:03 < sir_lewk> sup mtgrss111
20:04 <+mtgrss111> fun times
20:04 < sir_lewk> excellent
20:04 < sir_lewk> gee gee
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20:07 < Hunterkll> woah
20:07 < Hunterkll> it's 47f outside
20:07 < Hunterkll> yea!
20:07 <@E-J> it's -2c outside
20:07 <@E-J> and lots of snow
20:08 <+Netham45> it's snowing here
20:08 <+Netham45> just started like 15 minutes ago
20:08 <@E-J> snow debth in finland http://www.fmi.fi/img/saa/Lumikartta.gif
20:10 <@E-J> hmmm weather service says it's -4C here
20:11 < sir_lewk> yeah, it's pretty warm here too
20:11 <@_Auron_> ugh
20:11 <@_Auron_> my friends are going camping tonight for my friend's birthday
20:11 < sir_lewk> 12-13 C around here
20:11 <@_Auron_> and they're going to get drunk
20:12 < sir_lewk> excellent, you going?
20:12 <@_Auron_> I don't know :|
20:12 < sir_lewk> go have fun
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20:12 < sir_lewk> being a prude is boring after a while :/
20:12 <@_Auron_> I'm too depressed to care
20:12 < sir_lewk> then you definetly need to go
20:12 <@E-J> http://naurunappula.com/z/156861/
20:12 <@_Auron_> I hate getting drunk
20:13 < sir_lewk> well you don't need to drink that much
20:14 < sir_lewk> hanging out with friends is good for you though
20:16 <@_Auron_> he said there'd be weed too but I probably shouldn't be smoking. meh.
20:17 < V200> What the heck...
20:17 < V200> Netham45 is a server admin?
20:17 <+krisk> on dragonfir
20:17 <@Andy_J> furryfire lol
20:17 <+Netham45> yea
20:17 < _Digital> wtf
20:17 <+krisk> Andy_J unless you have something better to do just go
20:17 <+krisk> you can go be depressed there too
20:18 <+krisk> or it can help break the negative thought loops for a second
20:19 < _Digital> anyone want to help me figure out why mencoder is seg faulting?
20:19 < V200> um... how do you get to the 11th tab in irssi?
20:20 <@Andy_J> alt-q
20:20 <@_Auron_> ...
20:20 <@Andy_J> through alt-p
20:20 <@Andy_J> then you have to resort to /window <number>
20:20 <@_Auron_> irssi is so weird
20:20 <@Andy_J> les.
20:20 <@Andy_J> *lies.
20:20 <+krisk> also sorry i ment _Auron_ not Andy_J
20:20 < V200> there we go
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20:24 < V200> thanks Andy_J 
20:24 <@Andy_J> _Auron_: well that row is directly under the numbers
20:24 <@Andy_J> it makes sense
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20:29 <@efneTI92> [Storm|wrk] Yes rivereye, it is time to go fishing.
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20:34 < sir_lewk> _Auron_: if you are on irc instead of chilling with friends, I will beat you up over the internet
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20:35 < sir_lewk> http://news.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/01/23/1744250&from=rss  What a champ.
20:36 < zeropod> what do any of you know about irc proxies?
20:38 < sir_lewk> devilry
20:39 < zeropod> ?
20:39 < sir_lewk> dunno
20:39 < sir_lewk> why do you need an irc proxy?
20:39 < zeropod> k
20:40 < i_c-Y> se irssiproxy and bnc's
20:40 < zeropod> well, I use iphone colloquy, and want to stay connected even when I close it to, say, play a game 
20:40 < _Digital> i_c-Y!
20:40 < i_c-Y> hi
20:40 < sir_lewk> does the iphone have an ssh client?
20:41 < i_c-Y> zeropod: irssi-proxy or a bnc works
20:41 < i_c-Y> ie psybnc
20:41 < sir_lewk> the best way to do it is to ssh into somewhere that has a screen session with irssi running
20:41 < zeropod> the point is that iphone colloquy has a superb gui
20:41 < i_c-Y> shut up sir_lewk 
20:41 < sir_lewk> diaf i_c-Y
20:41 < i_c-Y> and zeropod , go look up what i just told you
20:41 < zeropod> i have irssi and screen running at home
20:41 <@chronomex> yeah, that's about hwat I have
20:41 < zeropod> i_c-Y: but that involves closing colloquy..
20:42 <@chronomex> but irssi can act as a server, and proxy for you
20:42 <@chronomex> look for 'irssiproxy'
20:42 < i_c-Y> well shit, chronomex , what the hell do you think ive said?
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20:42 <@chronomex> i_c-Y: I know, I'm repeating it for the benefit of hte deaf
20:42 <@chronomex> zeropod: listen to i_c-Y
20:42 <@chronomex> he knows his shit
20:42 <@chronomex> some of it at least
20:43 < zeropod> and how does that work on my end using a irc client to connect to it as opposed to ssh
20:44 <@chronomex> ...
20:44 <@chronomex> what part of "irssi can act as a server, and proxy for you" do you not understand?
20:44 < sir_lewk> all of it, link me up pleaz
20:45 < sir_lewk> no really, should I just google irssi-proxy?
20:45 < i_c-Y> no, sir_lewk 
20:45 < sir_lewk> do I need root on a box to do that?
20:45 < i_c-Y> zeropod: lemme get yo ua link
20:45 <@chronomex> sir_lewk: no root needed
20:45 < zeropod> i_c-Y: wtf would I do with a link?
20:45 < sir_lewk> cool
20:45 <@chronomex> click it?
20:46 < i_c-Y> http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.garion.org%2Firssi%2Firssi-proxy.php&l=1
20:46 < sir_lewk> iphones do have "The Internet" don't they?
20:46 < zeropod> chronomex: I really don't want to close colloquy though
20:46 < i_c-Y> http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=irssi-proxy rather.
20:46 < sir_lewk> hahahahaha
20:46 < sir_lewk> that's hilarious
20:46 <@chronomex> zeropod: doesn't your fancy iphone let you run multiple programs at once?
20:46 <@chronomex> in my understanding, it's Unix, and so far as I know, Unix can run multiple programs at once.
20:46 < sir_lewk> yeah, operating systems have had multitasking since... the 60s?
20:46 < zeropod> chronomex: it's an iPod, and not unless I jailbreak it, and barely then
20:47 < i_c-Y> if you close colloquy and you're running a bouncer, we can't tell (unless if you set it to tell the world that it does)
20:47 < zeropod> ok
20:48 <@chronomex> zeropod: why don't you jailbreak it then?
20:48 < zeropod> that's really what I wanted for now. I'll look more into it when I get home
20:49 < zeropod> chronomex: iPod touch 2g has no real jailbreak yet
20:49 < zeropod> only iPhone/3G and iPod touch 1g
20:49 <@chronomex> I don't buy devices that need to be cracked to use properly :)
20:50 < zeropod> it's a pmp, not a laptop
20:50 <@chronomex> hey
20:50 <@chronomex> my phone is unlocked
20:50 <@chronomex> I have in front of me a pmp and a phone, neither of which need to be jailbroken
20:50 < zeropod> i am happy I can listen to music and do IRC at all
20:50 <@chronomex> well then you're not demanding that you be served properly
20:50  * _Auron_ just called the place he applied to and left a message :|
20:51 <@chronomex> "please, sir, can I have some more?"
20:51 < zeropod> chronomex...? it's a fucking iPod not a laptop 
20:51 <@chronomex> ummm
20:51 < zeropod> i am surprised it does internet
20:51 <@chronomex> why do you buy broken hardware in the first place?
20:51 <@chronomex> seriously, I don't understand the appeal
20:51 <@chronomex> I have media players that don't have to be broken
20:51 < zeropod> because I wanted an iPod, to play music, it does
20:52 <@chronomex> true
20:52 < zeropod> yaaaay
20:52 <@chronomex> yay.
20:52 < zeropod> goal achieved, but wait, it has extras!
20:52 < _Digital> sounds like a bad infomercial
20:53 < sir_lewk> zeropod: can those things play flac yet?
20:53 < _Digital> not out of the box sir_lewk 
20:53 < zeropod> sir_lewk: not by apple
20:53 < sir_lewk> lame :(
20:53 < zeropod> flac is too big
20:53 < sir_lewk> well how big is it?
20:53 <@_Auron_> flac is huge like xbox
20:54 < sir_lewk> I have several albums in flac on my 5th gen 30GB ipod and plenty of room to spare
20:54 < zeropod> 8gb pmp, I'll use mp3/mp4 ty
20:54 < sir_lewk> meh
20:54 < sir_lewk> I use ogg-vorbis for my other stuff
20:55 < zeropod> that and I use iTunes because it's there, so it works
20:55 < sir_lewk> hmm
20:55 < sir_lewk> I use amarok
20:55 < sir_lewk> and ktorrent ;P
20:56 < zeropod> well not any other media player is incorperated into mac os so well
20:56 < sir_lewk> aaaah, a mac
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20:57 < zeropod> yeah, on the mac, iTunes isn't half bad..
20:57 < obnauticu> on the ti89t, how do you get it to give you the EXACT answer of a problem like sin30-cos45?
20:58 < zeropod> alpha enter
20:58 < sir_lewk> it should give you the exact answer by default, I think you mean approximate
20:58 <@chronomex> mode dialogbox, or second screen set MODE=exact
20:58 < obnauticu> no i don't :\
20:58 < sir_lewk> oh
20:58 < obnauticu> for example
20:58 < obnauticu> sin45+cos60 = 1/2(sqrt(2)+1)
20:58 <@chronomex> to get a decimal, put a dot in a number somewhere, set that to APPROX, or diamond+enter
20:58 <@chronomex> yeah, mode=EXACT
20:59 < zeropod> ah, dia+enter
20:59 < obnauticu> when i do mode exact
20:59 < obnauticu> it jsut gives me sin30-cos45
20:59 < sir_lewk> right, that's correct
20:59 <@chronomex> oh
20:59 < sir_lewk> you want a decimal?
20:59 < obnauticu> No.
20:59 <@chronomex> it's not smart enough to get what you want :)
20:59 < obnauticu> damint
20:59 < obnauticu> nor am I.
20:59 < obnauticu> lmao.
20:59 <@chronomex> hah, but you got it once!
20:59 < sir_lewk> meh dunno
20:59 <@chronomex> it's not omniscient
20:59 < obnauticu> No, i used the back of the book.
21:00 < sir_lewk> oh, I get it
21:00 < obnauticu> I don't know how to do it :|
21:00 <@chronomex> maybe you should learn? :P
21:00 < obnauticu> this book sux0rz
21:00 < obnauticu> i don't know what to look for.
21:00 < sir_lewk> internet it up
21:00 < obnauticu> ^^
21:00 < sir_lewk> interenet is way better for learning math than most math books
21:01 < obnauticu> ya, that
21:01 < obnauticu> it's what i normally do...but i don't know how to do it :\
21:01 < obnauticu> i mean
21:01 < obnauticu> i odn't know what to LOOK for.
21:01 < sir_lewk> yeah, not sure either
21:02 < glk>  obnauticu  My url has much TI-89 data in MATH
21:02 < zeropod> o.o that was relevant
21:02 < obnauticu> adsl-70-234-141-110.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net ?
21:02 < glk> http://grahamkendall.net/
21:03 < zeropod> lol
21:03 < glk> Look in MATH
21:03 < obnauticu> I just assumed lol
21:03 < zeropod> i liked the guess more
21:03 < glk> Try TI-89  lessons
21:04 < sir_lewk> yeah, there is some good stuff in there
21:05 < obnauticu> glk if that is a picture of you, what is your call sign?
21:05 < obnauticu> lol
21:05 < glk> That is my picture
21:05 < glk> I am not a ham
21:05 < obnauticu> is my assumption correct?
21:05 < obnauticu> damnit
21:05 < obnauticu> lol
21:06 < glk> My father was a ham
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21:08 <@E-J> glk: bad actor, radio amateur or pig?
21:08 < glk> Radio amateur
21:08 < obnauticu> or bad phone operator*
21:09 <@E-J> just checked from dictionary
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21:21 < sir_lewk> my roommate is a ham
21:21 < sir_lewk> it's pretty cool stuff
21:22 < sir_lewk> actually, he's not really a ham I guess. doesn't have any equipment and stuff
21:22 < sir_lewk> just has a license I think
21:26 <@E-J> and you are a pig so you are both hams?-)
21:26 <@E-J> or schwein
21:28 < obnauticu> im a schwein
21:28 < obnauticu> omglololol
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21:33 <@E-J> http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/3012/macpcom5.jpg
21:33 < obnauticu> LMAO.
21:33 < obnauticu> It's actually kind of true.
21:33 <@Andy_J> ...
21:34 < obnauticu> Is gentoo the gun?
21:34 <@Andy_J> why do I even bother staying here anymore
21:34 < ports-_> i dont know
21:34 < zeropod> Andy_J: ?
21:35 < sir_lewk> Andy_J: because we wuv you?
21:35 < zeropod> sir_lewk: no you don't
21:35 <+mtgrss111> back
21:35 < sir_lewk> Andy_J is awesome
21:36 < zeropod> sir_lewk: ehhh... true
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21:37  * _Auron_ is crying right now
21:37  * obnauticu is crying whilest fapping violently.
21:38 <@Andy_J> I'm starting to not see the point in being on efnet anymore
21:38 <@Andy_J> -_-
21:38 < obnauticu> even IRC in general lol.
21:39 < obnauticu> all networks have retarded and smart channels
21:39 <@Andy_J> no, I have plenty of reasons to be on other networks
21:39 < obnauticu> retarded and smart people.
21:39 < obnauticu> I've got reasons to be on freenode :\
21:39 < obnauticu> and sometimes efnet
21:39 < obnauticu> and my own network..
21:39 < obnauticu> but not really anywhere else.
21:40 < i_c-Y> you're from furryfire?
21:40 < obnauticu> ?
21:40 <@Andy_J> lol.
21:40 <@Andy_J> I love IRC hacking, anyway.
21:40 <@Andy_J> unrealircd is easy enough to work on
21:41 < obnauticu> Freenode runs something weird
21:41 < obnauticu> i forgot the name
21:41 < obnauticu> hyperion
21:41 < obnauticu> that's it
21:42 < obnauticu> according to them...it sucks
21:42 < obnauticu> but whatever.
21:42 <+mtgrss111> o_O
21:42 <+mtgrss111> I still see loads of reasons for being on IRC
21:42 <+mtgrss111> even on EFNet
21:43 < obnauticu> this channel is the only channel i've ever seen on IRC filled with people going to Universities in the USA.
21:43 <@_Auron_> I start working tuesday afternoon.
21:43 <@Andy_J> (clap)
21:43 < obnauticu> Freenode has smart people, but nobody who's going to actually be an engineer
21:43 < obnauticu> lol.
21:43 <+mtgrss111> one reason is that no firewall I know of can block it, lol
21:43 < sir_lewk> why are you crying _Auron_ ?
21:44 < obnauticu> and quakenet is filled with in-game chat clients for UT tards.
21:44 < ports-_> haha
21:44 < ports-_> this is funny
21:44 < ports-_> my boss finally came to my office today... i work at another site
21:44 <+mtgrss111> I WISH I could start working Tuesday Afternoon.
21:44 < ports-_> ive been working here over 2 months.. and i think ive talked to my boss less than 10 times.
21:44 <+mtgrss111> oh shit, It's January 23rd!
21:44 < ports-_> hell. in person ive seen my boss 4 times
21:44 <@_Auron_> sir_lewk: because I'm happy
21:45 < sir_lewk> oh, that's good :)
21:45 < ports-_> wait i lied
21:45  * mtgrss111 starts looking for that library laptop due yesterday...
21:45 < ports-_> 5 times. he came to my office today
21:45 < ports-_> thats insane
21:45 < ports-_> isnt it?
21:45 <@Andy_J> no, not really
21:46 < ports-_> to have seen your boss, in person, 5 times in over 2 months?
21:46 < ports-_> i dont know where you work.. but thats weird
21:46 <@_Auron_> I AM SMOKING WEED TONIGHT
21:46 <@Andy_J> It isn't a state of mind.
21:46 <@Andy_J> Therefore it cannot be insane.
21:46 <@Andy_J> Unusual, perhaps.
21:46 < ports-_> _Auron_:  i dont like you
21:46 <@Andy_J> But not insane.
21:46 < Ox40Work> is this valid? http://rafb.net/p/SaOYb211.html
21:46 < ports-_> Andy_J:  72%
21:46 <@_Auron_> ports-_: why :|
21:46 < ports-_> _Auron_:  pot is illegal
21:46 < ports-_> Andy_J:  youre at 72%.. thats worthless.
21:46 <@_Auron_> so is underage drinking
21:47 <@Andy_J> This is how much I care.
21:47 < ports-_> Andy_J:  that means i would let 71% of the human population live, before you.
21:47 -!- rivereye [~Rivereye@h69-129-156-76.wyngmi.dedicated.static.tds.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
21:47 <@E-J> and driving without handsfree (somewhere)
21:47 < ports-_> Andy_J:  and out of that... 1%-72% .. ive never met them
21:47 <@Andy_J> That's nice.
21:47 < ports-_> thats how little i like you
21:47 < ports-_> i dislike you more than people ive never met
21:47 < ports-_> and i hate people
21:47 < obnauticu> :|
21:47 <@Andy_J> Awesome.
21:47 < ports-_> read: fuck off Andy_J 
21:47 < obnauticu> lol
21:47 < ports-_> swear ban
21:47 < ports-_> he'll do it.. the lamer
21:47 < obnauticu> errr
21:47 <@_Auron_> you're just troll feeding
21:47 <@Andy_J> Do you have to keep talking about it because I clearly don't give a damn.
21:48 < obnauticu> ports-_ you're so cool
21:48 < ports-_> _Auron_:  wheres the troll? i used to have a collection
21:48 < ports-_> obnauticu:  on the internet i am awesome.
21:48 <+mtgrss111> http://i39.tinypic.com/n35d04.gif   <--- old vs new xLib :)
21:48 <@Andy_J> You and ox40 are skating on very, very thin ice lately.
21:48 <@E-J> though _Auron_ is something that was some years ago still illegal
21:48 < ports-_> obnauticu:  i can bully anyone i want on the internet and they cant stop me
21:48 < ports-_> Andy_J:  booohoo?
21:48 < Ox40Work> Andy_J: dude, what did i say?
21:48 < obnauticu> ports-_ you're so cool
21:48 < ports-_> Ox40Work:  i dont know but im taking you down with me
21:48 <+mtgrss111> o_O
21:48 < ports-_> :P
21:49 < obnauticu> ports-_ go troll /b/
21:49 < obnauticu> it's more fun
21:49 < Ox40Work> lol ports-_
21:49 <+mtgrss111> Why are you guys going evil all of the sudden?
21:49 < ports-_> wheres nikky. trolling isnt going to last me another 40 minutes
21:49 <@Andy_J> Ox40Work: you're just an idiot.
21:49 < ports-_> mtgrss111:  all of a sudden?
21:49 < sir_lewk> how about everyone take a chill pill for a bit
21:49 < sir_lewk> ok?
21:49 < ports-_> i sacrifice babies all the time
21:49 < Ox40Work> Andy_J: subjective. Overruled. Sit down.
21:49 < obnauticu> ports-_ me too!
21:49 < sir_lewk> CHILL
21:49 < sir_lewk> PILL
21:49 < ports-_> yeah andy stfu.. you dont even believe in texting while driving
21:49 < sir_lewk> seriously
21:49 < Ox40Work> :P
21:50 < ports-_> texting and driving is AWESOME
21:50 <+mtgrss111> *agrees with sir_lewk*
21:50 <@Andy_J> Ox40Work: Claiming Amendments to the Constitution aren't valued the same as the Constitution itself is not a sign of an idiot?
21:50 <@Andy_J> Sigh.
21:50  * mtgrss111 wonders why he agrees with sir_lewk :/
21:50 < obnauticu> Doing meht isn't a good idea, but doing meth while on meth is awesome!
21:50 < ports-_> this lady on the radio this morning
21:50 < ports-_> she was a little drunk and texting while driving.
21:50 < sir_lewk> mtgrss111: because being chill is cool
21:50 < ports-_> she hit a stop sign, a concrete pole, and did some other damage to the curb/street
21:50 <@Andy_J> So how about them Cardinals?
21:50 < ports-_> because she was stupid and drunk and nexting
21:50 < ports-_> texting
21:50 <+mtgrss111> sir_lewk: you're right, but I meant in general :)
21:51 < ports-_> thats a bad combination
21:51 <@_Auron_> ports-_: and a female
21:51  * mtgrss111 googles "Cardinals"
21:51 < ports-_> _Auron_:  youre just saying that because you like boys
21:51 <@_Auron_> no, it's a known fact that women cannot drive
21:51 <@_Auron_> we had this discussion.. what, last night?
21:51 <@Andy_J> Cardinals over Steelers by a fuckton please.
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21:51 < ports-_> _Auron_:  last i heard that was statistically insignificant.
21:52 < ports-_> and most things "known as a fact" are in fact WRONG
21:52 <+mtgrss111> _Auron_: I've seen women drive, it's a known fact my sister can't drive.
21:52 < Ox40Work> Andy_J: just because I can change the constitution doesn't mean that its right...
21:52 < Ox40Work> or that it goes along the lines of the intents of the constitution
21:52 < Ox40Work> thats all I was saying
21:52 < ports-_> Ox40Work:  dude seriously
21:52 < ports-_> Ox40Work:  get something new
21:52 < Ox40Work> take prohibition... obviously COMPLETELY goes against the INTENTS of the constitution...
21:52 < ports-_> you sound like a goober talking about the constitution
21:52 <+mtgrss111> Ox40Work: stop being wrong.
21:52 < ports-_> i dont care what your argument is.. no self respecting noob gets into an argument OVER THE CONSTITUTION
21:53 < ports-_> you just dont do it
21:53 < Ox40Work> The constitution was made to protect our rights. That's the end point.
21:53 <+mtgrss111> Constitution is beast.
21:53 < ports-_> women call my penis the constitution
21:53 < obnauticu> No, the constitution was made to protect our god given rights.
21:53 < obnauticu> along with some other ones too
21:53 < obnauticu> :P
21:53 < ports-_> obnauticu:  god doesnt exist
21:53 < obnauticu> i know.
21:53 < Ox40Work> lmao
21:53 < obnauticu> That's what our founding fathers said though.
21:54 <+mtgrss111> ports_: I think some god exists.
21:54 < obnauticu> to protect life liberty and proptery.
21:54 < ports-_> obnauticu:  no actually. they discussed "inalienable" and "natural" rights
21:54 <+mtgrss111> <3 obnautico
21:54 < obnauticu> mtgrss111 i think it's some dude looking at a fishtank tapping on the window seeing what will happen.
21:54 < obnauticu> ports-_ i forgot whatever.
21:54 < Ox40Work> ports-_: define inalienable.
21:54 < ports-_> obnauticu:  abilities that you would possess no matter what vacuum you lived in
21:54 < ports-_> Ox40Work:  define my foot in your ass
21:54 < Ox40Work> pain
21:54 < obnauticu> sexy
21:54 < Ox40Work> heh
21:54 <+mtgrss111> for ports_
21:54 < Ox40Work> rights a lien can not be placed against...
21:54 < ports-_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inalienable_rights
21:55 < Ox40Work> CANT BE TAKEN AWAY
21:55 < Ox40Work> no matter how much you change the constitutino
21:55 < Ox40Work> WIN!
21:55 < obnauticu> Yes they can.
21:55 < Ox40Work> *bingbingbing!*
21:55 < ports-_> leins can be removed if you pay the debt
21:55 < obnauticu> leins?
21:55 < obnauticu> peins?
21:55 < obnauticu> penis?
21:55 < Storm|wrk> um you guys are mixing the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution
21:55 < Storm|wrk> fail
21:55 < Ox40Work> lol
21:55 < obnauticu> I know.
21:56 < obnauticu> lmao.
21:56 < Ox40Work> I noticed that Storm|wrk
21:56 < obnauticu> and the bill of rights.
21:56 < Ox40Work> shhhh I was winning for a second!
21:56 < Ox40Work> :)
21:56 < Ox40Work> 1/2 a second actually
21:56 <+prime_> can we get a fish tank?
21:56 < Ox40Work> :\
21:56 < obnauticu> i just let ports-_ talk.
21:56 <+mtgrss111> Depends on the current understanding of a right. I still don't think a mother has a right to kill her unborn baby unless either of them is in danger of dying.
21:56 < Ox40Work> if anyone here can walk up to me and recite the preamble of the constitution from memory, they can talk to me about the constitution.
21:56 < Ox40Work> if not, get out :)
21:56 < Ox40Work> mtgrss111: i agree
21:56 <+mtgrss111> we the people...
21:56 < ports-_> Storm|wrk:  i know but i get bored sometimes.. and i need to make 34 minutes pass
21:57 <+mtgrss111> in order to form a more perfect union...
21:57 < Ox40Work> of the u.s., in order to form a more perfect union
21:57 < ports-_> Storm|wrk:  if i confuse them enough.. itll entertain me long enough to leave work
21:57 < Ox40Work> establish justice
21:57 < Ox40Work> ensure domestic tranquility
21:57 <+mtgrss111> provide for the common defense
21:57 < Ox40Work> mtgrss111: copy paste doesnt count. :P
21:57 < ports-_> Ox40Work:  god shut up
21:57 <+mtgrss111> I was typing this, i swear.
21:57 < ports-_> id like to punch you in the cock right now with someone elses hand
21:57 < ports-_> cuz im not touching your cock.
21:58 <+mtgrss111> notice I made a mistake and forgot "of the u.s.,"
21:58 < Ox40Work> mtgrss111: lol, schoolhouse rock? :D
21:58 <+mtgrss111> still, i do know the preamble.
21:58 <+mtgrss111> YES!
21:58 < Ox40Work> *sings*
21:58 <+mtgrss111> =D
21:58 < Ox40Work> catchy tune, huh?
21:58 <+mtgrss111> <3 schoolhouse rock.
21:58 <+mtgrss111> i was chided in 6th grade for singing the preamble while everyone else recited it.
21:59 < ports-_> laksjfl
21:59 < ports-_> lkj
21:59 < ports-_> salkewjlweio wej049rui3i304gjk3oprgkjrgopgoprergjeop' bjeop' j
21:59 < i_c-Y> !k ports-_ fix yo keyboard
21:59 -!- ports-_ was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [i_c-Y: fix yo keyboard]
21:59 < i_c-Y> he's been bitchy lately.
21:59 < obnauticu> you should have told him to check his kotex
21:59 < i_c-Y> damn, didnt think of that one.
21:59 < obnauticu> ROFL.
22:00 < Ox40Work> lol
22:00 < Ox40Work> keep that one in the repository :)
22:00 < obnauticu> that's what... she said?
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22:00 < obnauticu> i_c-Y you know the drill
22:00 < Ox40Work> heh
22:01 <+mtgrss111> my favorite SHR song was probably "shot heard round the world"
22:01 -!- Ovan [Ovan@dialup-4.252.90.55.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net] has joined #tcpa
22:01 < Ovan> Hi all
22:02 < obnauticu> STFU Ovan
22:02 <+mtgrss111> sup, Ovan
22:02 < obnauticu> naw im just messin with you Ovan.
22:02 <+mtgrss111> sorry, tempers ran a little high earlier ^_^
22:02 < Ovan> oh?
22:02 < Ox40Work> not really
22:02 < obnauticu> someone left the Ovan on.
22:02 < Ox40Work> Andy_J was just gettin crabby
22:02 <+mtgrss111> ports_ was being dificult
22:02 < Ovan> ah
22:02 < Ox40Work> obnauticu: that was awful
22:02 < obnauticu> lmao.
22:02 < Ovan> is there any logs I can check out?
22:03 < obnauticu> just trying to lower the tempreature...
22:03 < obnauticu> get it
22:03 < obnauticu> it was a HEATED situation.
22:03 < Ox40Work> jesus dude...
22:03 < obnauticu> we were trying to stop any convection.
22:03 <+mtgrss111> For some reason, I'm not allowed to access logs within the last 30 days on the site :/
22:03 < Ox40Work> lmao dude, time to stop :P
22:03 < Ovan> ah
22:03 < obnauticu> lol
22:03 <+mtgrss111> before that, sure. just not recent events
22:04 < Ovan> ah ok
22:04 < obnauticu> definetally not a broil though
22:04  * sir_lewk --> home
22:05 < Ox40Work> oh god obnauticu... what... the HECK goes on in your mind?
22:05 < obnauticu> i have no idea
22:05 < obnauticu> right now im actually thinking of more cheesy puns i can do with a word that doesn't even mean oven
22:05 <+mtgrss111> Ox40Work:   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VQA5NDNkUM&fmt=18    =]
22:06 < Ox40Work> mtgrss111: work?
22:06 <+mtgrss111> safe for work
22:06 < Ox40Work> ya, I dont go on youtube.
22:07 < Ox40Work> no sound, no privacy at all... == no youtube
22:07 < obnauticu> it does have high def though
22:11 < ports-> id like to put it in her hot box
22:11 < ports-> that kind of pun?
22:11 < obnauticu> that sucked worse than mine
22:12 < obnauticu> since when do you call an Oven a hot box?
22:12 < Ox40Work> :)
22:12 < i_c-Y> Ovan: theres some on tcpa.calcg.org and you can get logs  by whois'ing Andy_J 
22:12 < obnauticu> and mine were designed to suck
22:12 < obnauticu> yours was made to be funny
22:12 < Ox40Work> more of a luke-warm box
22:14 < ports-> obnauticu:  i was talking about vagina
22:15 < ports-> youtube video quality on my phone sucks
22:15 < ports-> anyone listen to the radio at work?
22:17 < Ox40Work> luke-warm... thats hot.
22:17 < Ox40Work> I saw an emo-ish chick yesterday, she was a cutie.
22:19 < Ox40Work> just thought I would let you know
22:21 <+mtgrss111> Ò_ó pics?
22:28 < ports-> bye
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22:30 < Ovan> guess not =P
22:33 -!- Ovan [Ovan@dialup-4.252.90.55.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net] has quit [Quit: ERROR: Win98se is obsolete and had to terminte processes]
23:01 < Ox40Work> lol
23:01 -!- Ox40Work [~KevinK@68-117-29-62.static.fdul.wi.charter.com] has quit [Quit: User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby]
23:08 -!- Ovan [Ovan@dialup-4.252.92.218.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net] has joined #tcpa
23:15 < Ovan> Gibben Gybel Snapper Nickle
23:19 < Storm|wrk> !t  	 Welcome to TCPA | TI Calculator Porn Association | http://www.junemann.nl/maxcoderz/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=2736 | Doesn't Matter!
23:20 -!- efneTI86 changed the topic of #tcpa to:  	 Welcome to TCPA | TI Calculator Porn Association | http://www.junemann.nl/maxcoderz/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=2736 | Doesn't Matter!
23:20 <@Andy_J> fail
23:20 <@Andy_J> and... no
23:21 < Storm|wrk> meh worth a try :P
23:21 -!- Andy_J changed the topic of #tcpa to: Welcome to TCPA | http://www.junemann.nl/maxcoderz/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=2736 | Doesn't Matter! 
23:21 -!- mode/#tcpa [+b *!*@rrcs-67-53-176-159.west.biz.rr.com] by Andy_J
23:21 -!- Storm|wrk was kicked from #tcpa by Andy_J [Time out for that.]
23:22 < Ovan> couldn't been worse =D
23:23 -!- ReDeEm [~Kk@adsl-75-44-54-161.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #tcpa
23:24 < Nikky> wow
23:26 < Nikky> !k ReDeEm complaining about a kick
23:26 -!- ReDeEm was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [Nikky: complaining about a kick]
23:26 -!- ReDeEm [~Kk@adsl-75-44-54-161.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #tcpa
23:26 < ReDeEm> Nikky: please don't abuse powers
23:26 < Nikky> Not.
23:26 < Nikky> You whined.
23:26 < Nikky> But I was at class all day.
23:26 < Spengo> whiner
23:26 <@Andy_J> Did he have any cheese?
23:26 < Spengo> when's the last time you showered ReDeEm 
23:27 -!- glk [~glk@adsl-70-234-141-110.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
23:27 < Spengo> I can smell you through the internet :x
23:27 <@Andy_J> Probably never.
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23:36 -!- mode/#tcpa [-b *!*@rrcs-67-53-176-159.west.biz.rr.com] by efneTI85
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23:45 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Goplat] by efneTI86
23:47 -!- Storm|wrk [~chatzilla@rrcs-67-53-176-159.west.biz.rr.com] has joined #tcpa
23:47 <@efneTI92> [Storm|wrk] Yes rivereye, it is time to go fishing.
23:48 < Storm|wrk> Sorry Andy_J 
23:48 < Storm|wrk> I figured someone would take it down right away, I just didn't expect the ban.
23:48 < Storm|wrk> I shouldn't be allowed to get bored.
23:51 -!- tifreak [DanielThor@1Cust1496.an4.ind20.da.uu.net] has joined #tcpa
23:51 <@Andy_J> well that's something we dont' talk aobut in here
23:55 < Storm|wrk> ok
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23:56 <@_Auron_> we don't talk about pr0n?
23:57 <+mtgrss111> we don't?
23:58 < i_c-Y> !qfind porn
23:58 <@efneTI86> 733:sjrberg: * davr then proceeds to upload viruses and porns | <+BrandonW> I miss that calculator pr0n.
23:58 <@efneTI86> 1025:patz2009: <Nikky> BrandonW: Can I come to take pictures? | <BrandonW> Fully-clothed ones, yes. | <Nikky> dang | <BrandonW> I could pull out the calculators... | <BrandonW> I still want to do that calculator porn site.
23:58 <@efneTI86> 1254:Nikky: < Netham45> I'm looking at gay porno
23:58 <@efneTI86> (Plus 3 more matches: http://tcpa.aardy.net/quotes/?filter=porn&channel=tcpa&search=search)
23:58 < i_c-Y> !qfind pron
23:58 <@efneTI86> No matches
23:58 < i_c-Y> !qfind pr0n
23:58 <@efneTI86> 1323:Ox40: <SuperKool> crap. grounded frum PC for 3 days. pr0ns >.<
23:58 <@efneTI86> 823:smart: <MikeKnoop> Free granny porn for your TI-89 in www.grahamkendall.net | <KevinJB> Much datas on horse pr0n under MATH
23:58 <@efneTI86> 733:sjrberg: * davr then proceeds to upload viruses and porns | <+BrandonW> I miss that calculator pr0n.
23:58 <@efneTI86> (All of 3 matches)
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