--- Log opened Thu Jan 22 00:00:09 2009
00:00 < i_c-Y> you dont need a calculator for that exam
00:01 < neo22> Half of it needs a calculator...
00:01 < neo22> Well, not need
00:01 <@_Auron_> anyhow I'm sure that's why they started making quest items in a seperate list of items because.. it just got rediculous with inventory space
00:01 <@_Auron_> or lack thereof
00:01 < neo22> actually, all I want is really the derivatives and integrals of most of the trig functions
00:03 < neo22> and something that can do integration by parts for me. cause I know I'll screw it up.
00:03 < neo22> I'm not actually taking the real AB test but my teacher is giving us the multiple choice from one for our BC midterm
00:05 < TheStorm> get sybolic and you'll be fine :P
00:05 < TheStorm> symbolic*
00:05 < TheStorm> I assme you have an 83 or 84 right?
00:08 < neo22> yeah
00:08 <+mtgrss111> go for symbolic -_-
00:08 < neo22> What is symbolic?
00:08 <+mtgrss111> you're mom is symbolic
00:08 <+mtgrss111> hmm....wrong "you're"
00:09 <+mtgrss111> your mom is symbolic :P
00:09 < neo22> ah, symbolic 1.8
00:09 <+mtgrss111> Symbolic is a Math app that may prove useful
00:10 < neo22> gotta clear out some programs from when I took the math II sat :P
00:10 < neo22> also, anyone know why if I try and install Ion my memory is wiped?
00:11  * Tari is 'studying' for his calc exam
00:11 < Tari> (== checking if there's anything good in the ticalc archives)
00:11 < Nikky> Ticalc is always awesome
00:12 <+mtgrss111> sup Nikky :)
00:12 <+krisk> i wish NL had an Obama
00:13 < Nikky> hi mtgrss111 
00:16 < neo22> it's been a while since I installed a flash program. do I have to copy all the files in this rar over?
00:16 < Damakaru> *Now has (legal) copies of Half-Life one and two, and Grand Theft Auto... but no Windows to play them on (unless they work on Wine)...*
00:16 < Nikky> I does
00:16 < Tari> Source games work pretty well under wine, IIRC
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00:16 < Tari> I know CS:S does
00:16 < Nikky> half-life 1 does
00:18 < neo22> So, do I need to copy over all these asm and other files, or just the 8xk file?
00:19 < Tari> just the 8xk
00:19 < neo22> alright.
00:19 < Tari> the asms are source code
00:20 < sir_lewk> http://dotfiles.org/~ghost1227/.bashrc
00:20 < sir_lewk> that extract function is badass
00:21 < Tari> ooh, that is nice
00:23 < neo22> Is it possible to differentiate right from Symbolic, or do I have to install a program like easydifferentiations or derivatives?
00:24 < TheStorm> symbolic can do it on its own
00:24 < TheStorm> I would suggest getting Omnicalc and Prettyprint also 
00:24 < TheStorm> the three together work quite nicely
00:24 < neo22> if I have enough space
00:25 < neo22> I don't have silver
00:25 < TheStorm> and you only need to install omnicalc it chains with the other two
00:26 < neo22> so I can uninstall and delete symbolic if I'm going to install omnicalc?
00:26 < TheStorm> no
00:26 < TheStorm> omnicalc works with symbolic if its there 
00:27 < TheStorm> so you need both of them on you calc but only omnicalc needs to be installed
00:27 < neo22> ah
00:27 < TD-Linux> I've got a feeling that our local paper is slightly biased
00:27 < Nikky> Lies.
00:27 < neo22> what does omnicalc offer to me that I would want?
00:28 < sir_lewk> TD-Linux: in what way?
00:28 < sir_lewk> (and of course it is)
00:28 < TD-Linux> I have the paper from bush's inauguration
00:28 < TD-Linux> it has a front-page article
00:28 < neo22> Also, can someone explain how to use d()? I tried a few formats and didn't get it working.
00:28 < Nikky> TD-Linux: Well, that doesn't say too much.
00:28 < TD-Linux> and the obama inauguration
00:28 < Nikky> Unless it's his first inaguration...
00:28 < TD-Linux> has a special 8-page insert on the front
00:28 < Nikky> Second inaguration is always much less covered
00:28 < TD-Linux> Nikky, it is
00:29 < Nikky> Yeah, and Bushie barely won.
00:29 < TD-Linux> complete with gigantic two-page paper with obama
00:29 < sir_lewk> obama is the media's wetdream
00:29 < TD-Linux> 's picture
00:29 < sir_lewk> all of them, regardless of bias
00:29 < Nikky> I for one support his socialist policies.
00:29 < TD-Linux> sir_lewk: yeah I've pretty much figured that out
00:29 < sir_lewk> he pulls in viewers/readers
00:29 < TD-Linux> they are like
00:29 < TheStorm> it requires two arguments a string with the function and a string with the Var to derive
00:29 < TD-Linux> OBAMA QUOTE! HE IS GOING TO SAVE US FROM HELL
00:29 < Nikky> He is.
00:30 < Nikky> I voted for him!
00:30 < TD-Linux> no he won't
00:30 < Nikky> When is he banning guns?
00:30 < TD-Linux> he's not
00:30 < Nikky> Lies.
00:30 < neo22> so (1,5,x^2,x)
00:30 < neo22> ?
00:30 < Nikky> I hope he does.
00:30 < Nikky> neo22: What's the function?
00:31 < neo22> um, let's say x^2*e^x
00:31 < Nikky> No, I mean
00:31 < sir_lewk> Nikky: I hope he tramples on the rest of my rights too
00:31 < Nikky> What is that (1, thing... what does that refer to?
00:31 < neo22> d()
00:31 < Nikky> sir_lewk: actually, he supports all rights in the constitution. minus the 2nd amdnement
00:31 < sir_lewk> freedom of speach isn't really needed.  it's only used by haters
00:32 < Nikky> yeah
00:32 < sir_lewk> if we didnt have it then we wouldn't have to hear from KKK people
00:32 < sir_lewk> so lets get rid of that shit too
00:32 < Nikky> Good point.
00:32 < TheStorm> neo22 d("X^2*e^X","X")
00:32 < TD-Linux> maybe we could just draft everyone into the military
00:33 < neo22> alright
00:33 < neo22> got it
00:34 < sir_lewk> we should open up our borders
00:34 < sir_lewk> sign your name, BAM! your a US citizen
00:35 < sir_lewk> expecially mexicans
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00:35 < sir_lewk> they should get a signing bonus
00:35 < Nikky> Good idea.
00:35 < Nikky> We need slave labor.
00:35 < sir_lewk> at least most of them arn't lazy assholes who don't know what "labor" means
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00:36 < sir_lewk> pah, we just need people willing to work and not leach off the system
00:36 < Nikky> Hi kandalf :)
00:36 < sir_lewk> hello kandalf
00:36 < kandalf> So, I still have the question: Why do I want omnicalc?
00:36 < sir_lewk> it has some cool stuff
00:37 < sir_lewk> extended function set
00:37 < sir_lewk> I forget what exactly tbph
00:37 < sir_lewk> get graph3 too, that program is badass
00:37 < sir_lewk> and cabamap
00:37 < Damakaru> If you're doing graphical stuff (spriting), though, you probably want xLIB or Celtic.
00:38 < TheStorm> ok he's doing calculus
00:38 < sir_lewk> well
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00:38 < sir_lewk> get mirageos, play games instead of calculus
00:38 < sir_lewk> much more fun, trust me
00:38 < kandalf> I have mirageos >.>
00:38 < sir_lewk> :D
00:38 < kandalf> I'm just getting a program or two for the AB calc test - it's my midterm tomorrow (multiple choice parts)
00:38 < kandalf> Only two games tho
00:39 < kandalf> falldown and pj
00:39 < kandalf> any good ones you reccomend?
00:39 < Damakaru> Doom.
00:39 < TheStorm> kandalf what you really want its prettyprint it does exactly what is says it does, it prettyprints equations
00:39 < kandalf> ion doesn't work for me unfortunately
00:39 < kandalf> I got it :P
00:39 < sir_lewk> ion is pretty old, it's mainly obsolete
00:39 < TheStorm> you use symbolics Pretty function to use it
00:39 < sir_lewk> twas a good program back in the day though :D
00:39 < Damakaru> I think MirageOS has 100$ ION compatability.
00:40 < sir_lewk> yeah
00:40 < Damakaru> s:$:%:
00:40 < sir_lewk> and there were some memory leaks with ION that became apparent later on or something
00:40 < TheStorm> I perfur Calcutil to MirageOS btu tahts jsut me
00:40 < TheStorm> but thats*
00:40 < sir_lewk> the guy that wrote ION also wrote a pretty decent window manager though
00:40 < sir_lewk> http://joewing.net/programs/jwm/ :D
00:41 < sir_lewk> Calcutil was after my 83+ time
00:42 < Damakaru> Wasn't there another Calcutil that someone made a port of?
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00:42 < Damakaru> Had some extra features and stuff?
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00:42 <+mtgrss111> i prefer crunchy to mirage
00:43 < Damakaru> Yeah, Cruncy's good, too.  It like how it saves changes into an AppVar instead of the actual program.
00:44 < Damakaru> (Though that gets a little messy if you have lots of games.)
00:45 <@Andy_J> Damakaru: you have to escape $ in regexes >_>
00:45 <@Andy_J> /late
00:45 <@Andy_J> /pedantic
00:45 < sir_lewk> you have to escape eeeeeeevvvvvvveeeeerrrrrrthing in regex
00:46 < kandalf> I stay on the safe side and escape everything that isn't a letter >.>
00:46 < kandalf> generally
00:46 < kandalf> :p
00:46 < Damakaru> Oh.  Huh.  Didn't know that.
00:46 < Damakaru> (Oh, right, "$" matches against something, but I forgot what.)
00:46 <@Andy_J> it's the end-of-line anchor
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00:52 < Nikky> perl sucks
00:52 < Milyardo> sir_lewk\:\ You don\'t\ have\ to\ use \escapes\ \bthat\b\ oftenly\ with\ regex\.\n
00:52 < Nikky> <3 Milyardo 
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00:53 < Milyardo> <3 Nikky 
00:54 <+krisk> <3 cute alt chicks
00:54 <+krisk> and nikky
00:54 < Nikky> !k krisk no
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00:54 < ports-> <3 boobies
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00:54 < ports-> !k Nikky hahahahaha
00:54 <@Andy_J> \\n
00:54 <@Andy_J> >_>
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00:56 < Nikky> So what if Israel used phosphorus shells or depleted uranium
00:56 < Nikky> I mean, who doesn't?
00:57 < Milyardo> My country doesn't you insensitive clod
00:57 < Nikky> Yeah
00:57 < Nikky> We sold  them the stuff.
00:57 < Nikky> :)
00:57 < Milyardo> we incite wars between other governments
00:57 < Milyardo> then sell it to the,
00:57 < Milyardo> *them
00:58 < Nikky> yep
00:58 < Nikky> <3 US
00:58 < Milyardo> <3
00:58 < Nikky> screw you rest of the world
00:58 < Nikky> bitches and hos
00:59 <+mtgrss111> <3 america :)
01:00 < i_c-Y> Andy_J is unamerican
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01:01 <+mtgrss111> well, I'm not sure I <3 Andy_J
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01:03 < sir_lewk> Nikky: you are a man after my own heart
01:05 < sir_lewk> http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09%2F01%2F21%2F2313233&from=rss wow, wtf
01:07 < Nikky> lulz
01:07 < Nikky> Hanford
01:08 < Milyardo> 99.96% pure plutomium
01:08 < Milyardo> thats it?
01:09 < Milyardo> You can only kill a couple million with that
01:09 < sir_lewk> yeah
01:10 < sir_lewk> well
01:10 < sir_lewk> how much was it by mass?
01:11 < sir_lewk> not anywhere near enough to make a bomb I'd think
01:11 < sir_lewk> so actually pretty harmless.  weapons grade stuff is safe to handle
01:12 < Milyardo> sir_lewk: 
01:13 < Milyardo> From the picture it looks like quite a bit
01:13 < Milyardo> you only need a few miligrams to make bomb now days
01:13 < sir_lewk> erm...
01:13 < Milyardo> it looks like there was a at least a liter and a half
01:14 < Milyardo> http://www.newscientist.com/gallery/dn16447-hanford-site/
01:14 < sir_lewk> you need to form a critical mass which you arn't going to do with a few miligrams unless you have some seriously heavy duty high tech shit
01:14 < Nikky> Spengo: Nice mayer.
01:15 < Nikky> mayor even...
01:15 < sir_lewk> it's pretty impossible to tell how much mass is there, I'd think not much
01:16 < neo22> yo with symbolic I'm gonna ace this test :D
01:16 < neo22> thanks guys
01:16 < Spengo> mayors?
01:16 < Spengo> what about mayors?
01:16 < Tari> you need 10 kilos of Pu-239 to go critical
01:17 < sir_lewk> yeah
01:17 < Tari> less if you've got some sort of neutron reflector
01:17 < sir_lewk> or you need to compress it into a seriously small volume
01:17 < neo22> oh, there is a 2.0 for graph3d? gotta grab that
01:17 < Spengo> so
01:17 < Spengo> just drive lots of trucks over it
01:18 < ports-> i gotta go to the store
01:18 < ports-> doh
01:18 < ports-> i dont wanna its cold
01:19 < sir_lewk> a basic atomic bomb works by using high explosives to form a critical mass, either by bringing two noncritical masses together, or by pressing a neutron reflector around a noncritical mass
01:19 < sir_lewk> the explosives then hold it together long enough for it to blow up
01:20 < Spengo> can't be too hard to make a nuke
01:20 < sir_lewk> it's hard to make it work right
01:20 < Merthsoft> psh, i made one in my basement last night
01:20 < Spengo> betcha I could make one
01:20 < sir_lewk> the problem is as soon as you from a critical mass it's going to blow up right away, you need to keep it from blowing up long enough for it to blow up bigger
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01:21 <@efneTI92> [Netham47] Narf!
01:21 < Spengo> brb eastern europe
01:21 < sir_lewk> that part requires hella tough timing and precisely engineered explosives
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01:21 < Tari> ('fizzle')
01:21 < sir_lewk> yup
01:21 < Tari> yay wikipedia
01:21 < sir_lewk> purdy much
01:21 < sir_lewk> with wikipedia, anyone can me a nuclear scientist! :D
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01:22 <+krisk> you can still fuck some people up pretty badly if you just make it go critical though
01:22 < sir_lewk> oh yeah, totally
01:22 <+krisk> the jar seems to say 115 mg ?
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01:23 < sir_lewk> it looks like basically lab shit
01:23 < Spengo> all you gotta do is shoot a photon torpedo down the vent
01:23 < sir_lewk> lulz
01:23 <+krisk> its just a sample of
01:23 <+krisk> if it was the entire core then yeah
01:24 <+krisk> oh 400
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01:33 < JoelS> Merthsoft: hey dude, got a response on my ping today
01:33 < Merthsoft> oh?
01:33 < Merthsoft> and?
01:33 < JoelS> Merthsoft: looks like our new recruiting system somehow kinda hid the referral
01:33 < JoelS> You should get a message soon
01:33 < Merthsoft> ha, ok
01:33 < JoelS> Major fail
01:34 < Merthsoft> woot, got it
01:34 < Merthsoft> shit, times i'm free...
01:34 < Merthsoft> feckin' school
01:37 < Merthsoft> alright, sent.
01:37 <@_Auron_> .....
01:37 <@_Auron_> so yeah, it's pretty much for sure now that I have to move
01:37 <@_Auron_> still haven't gotten a job yet (still waiting on that sales one.. might call tomorrow)
01:37 < JoelS> Merthsoft: check ur mail
01:38 < Merthsoft> JoelS: I did, and I emailed her back
01:38 < JoelS> kewl
01:38 < Merthsoft> JoelS: Tell her to check her email :P
01:41 < Tari> just get 'em on irc
01:41 < Tari> duh
01:42 < Merthsoft> haha
01:42 < Merthsoft> i don't think i want a recruiter seeing some of the shit i say in here ;)
01:43 < ports-> lol
01:43 < ports-> beaver beaver
01:43 < ports-> SNAKE
01:43 < ports-> AHHH!
01:44 < Merthsoft> JoelS: What do you think my chances are?
01:45 < Nikky> 100%
01:45 < Merthsoft> thanks Nikky!
01:45 < Nikky> although if you work at facebook I'll mock you forever Merthsoft 
01:45 < Merthsoft> that's ok
01:45 < Nikky> forever
01:45 < Merthsoft> i'll come visit you while i'm in cali
01:45 < Nikky> k
01:47 < neo22> there's no symbolic integration program, right? >.>
01:47 < Merthsoft> the goal is, no matter what i do this summer, to visit seattle to meet rachel's family. the facebook internship would take up my WHOLE EFFING SUMMER, so hopefuly some weekend/longweekend in there, I'd be able to be in seattle (Edmonds, really).
01:48 < Nikky> hahahah edmonds
01:49 < Merthsoft> i thought you liked edmonds?
01:49 < Nikky> dunno
01:49 < Nikky> I don't travel much to that part
01:49 < Merthsoft> oh right, chronomex likes edmonds
01:49 < Nikky> he would
01:49 <@chronomex> wtf?
01:49 < Merthsoft> right?
01:49 < Nikky> See, chronomex worked at microsoft and I didn't mock him that much.
01:50 < Nikky> But facespace...
01:50 < Nikky> anyway, back to reading about prisons
01:52 <+krisk> hmm i was just reading about prisons too
01:53 < JoelS> Merthsoft: I don't know how good you are?
01:54 < Merthsoft> At what?
01:54 < JoelS> Coding
01:54 < Merthsoft> best here
01:54 < JoelS> That's a relative scale.
01:54 < Merthsoft> i know
01:55 < Merthsoft> 24th regional at programming contest of 125 teams. 3rd on site with 50 teams i think
01:55 <+krisk> http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance_investigative/training_behind_bars_i
01:56 <@_Auron_> what
01:56 <@_Auron_> programming contest?
01:56 < Merthsoft> yeah
01:56 < sir_lewk> cool
01:56 <@_Auron_> why/how
01:56 < sir_lewk> those look good on college applications
01:56 < Merthsoft> sir_lewk: i'm in college, silly
01:56 <@_Auron_> lol
01:57 < Merthsoft> http://acm.ashland.edu/2008/standings.html we were "big red one"
01:58 <+krisk> what are those numbers?
01:58 < Merthsoft> it only shows 81 teams, but they told us there were 124
01:58 < Merthsoft> oh wait, 81st place
01:58 < Merthsoft> heh
01:59 < Merthsoft> A-H are the problems
01:59 < Merthsoft> attempts/time i think
01:59 < ports-> wheres the gay man
01:59 < ports-> _Auron_, do you watch Privileged?
02:00 <@_Auron_> never heard of it
02:00 < ports-> its on CW
02:00 < ports-> theres a uber gay chef on it
02:00 <@_Auron_> ok
02:01 < ports-> argh.. im tempted to watch Gossip Girl
02:01 <+krisk> wat
02:01 < Merthsoft> so, yeah, about that good, JoelS 
02:02 < JoelS> I don't know what that means
02:02 < Merthsoft> well
02:02 < Merthsoft> what do you want from me
02:02 < JoelS> We'll see
02:02 <+krisk> dude if youre good at something surely you can sort of explain how good
02:02 < Merthsoft> How good am I at coding? Not the best ever, but I do well.
02:03 < JoelS> Merthsoft: just wait for the ol' interview
02:03 < Merthsoft> :\
02:03 < Merthsoft> Ok, fine. I'm nervous
02:03 <+krisk> just say the most advanced stuff you know and how well youd apply it as well as how you apply some basic stuff
02:03 < Merthsoft> quiet krisk
02:03 <@_Auron_> lol
02:03 <@_Auron_> good luck merth
02:04 < Merthsoft> thanks _Auron_ 
02:04 <@_Auron_> meanwhile my life continues to be in fucked up limob.
02:04 <@_Auron_> limbo*
02:04 <+krisk> hey what i said was good
02:04 < JoelS> Merthsoft: do you have a decent knowledge of any programming language? Most data structures and aglorithms? runtime? Memory constraints?
02:05 <+krisk> see, it would answer stuff like that
02:06 < Merthsoft> I have a decent knowledge of Java and C++. I understand most common data structures, and know about algorithms (plus the algo class i'm in right now). Runtime and memory constraints are a little fuzzier.
02:06 < Merthsoft> oh, and I'm pretty good at C#
02:09 <+krisk> what about patterns and experience?
02:11 < Merthsoft> quiet krisk
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02:21 < Damakaru> I need to have Firefox re-write anything that says "/index.html" to just "/".
02:22 < Damakaru> (Network blocks URLs with "index.html" in the URL like that.)
02:22 < Merthsoft> why?
02:22 < Damakaru> I wish I knew.
02:22 < Damakaru> But anytime I hit an "index.html" in the URL, it kills the connection.
02:23 < Milyardo> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXzg0D-cKds
02:23 < Milyardo> We da pimps in crib yall
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02:28 < Damakaru> Wow.
02:30 < Damakaru> Jeeeeeeez, someone is doing some *serious* fucking.
02:31 < Damakaru> That was the longest, loudest scream I have ever heard.  Surprised some windows didn't break.
02:32 < millinao> ?
02:35 < Tari> exactly what he said
02:39 < millinao> more like "wtf"
02:39 <@_Auron_> rofl
02:39 < i_c-Y> or raping, Damakaru 
02:39 <@_Auron_> my hero has 6 items equipped and the silver key
02:39 <@_Auron_> broad sword, cloak of wind, dragon's bane, shield of erdrick, iron helmet, and armor of gaia
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02:40 <+mtgrss111> lol, can you guys change the ball's color?
02:40 <+mtgrss111> http://thedogpaddler.com/RandomUploads/Ball/ball.htm
02:40 < Damakaru> i_c-Y:  Maybe.  Whatever it is, it's still going on.  I can hear it *way* over my music, which is already loud enough to have the door and florescent light fixtures rattling.
02:41 < millinao> yeah
02:41 < millinao> i can click on the ball
02:41 <@_Auron_> I changed it to an olive green
02:41 <@_Auron_> then to white
02:41 < millinao> its actually easy
02:41 <@_Auron_> then purple
02:41 <@_Auron_> yeah
02:42 < Damakaru> It's not like the dorm mother pays attention that much to what's going on out there.  There's been three times where a chick came screaming out of someone's room, and rocketing out of the entrance.
02:43 <@_Auron_> blue->olive green->white->purple->pink->yellow green->light red->green->pink->lime green
02:43 <@_Auron_> ...
02:43 <+mtgrss111> wow, you enjoy that a lot more than i did o_O
02:43 <+mtgrss111> stupid touchpad.
02:44 <@_Auron_> I'm in a bitter mood and bored
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02:44 < millinao> i have a touchpad
02:45 < Milyardo> ]I as Cereal!
02:45 < Milyardo> nom nom nom
02:45 < neo22> I think I got the ball to disappear when I played that game
02:46 < neo22> a couple weeks ago
02:46 < sir_lewk> I has a touch-millinao
02:46 < sir_lewk> :O
02:46 < millinao> :O
02:46 <@_Auron_> it's even easier to do it if you let the ball stick to the side
02:46 < millinao> sir lewk did you buy painkiller
02:46 < sir_lewk> not yet
02:46 < sir_lewk> weekend probably
02:46 < millinao> k
02:46 < sir_lewk> buuuut!
02:46 < sir_lewk> I have tylenol!
02:46 < sir_lewk> woo
02:46 < neo22> wait, this one isn't the one where the ball gets smaller
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02:47 < Damakaru> *Head tilt.*
02:47 < sir_lewk> neo22: tylenol is the game where you drink lots of coke and caffienated beverages, toss back two tylenol, then feel fiiiiine
02:47 < Merthsoft> Damakaru: got the 89 todsy
02:47 < sir_lewk> nice!
02:48 < sir_lewk> install asprin, that game is great
02:48 < Merthsoft> i dont know how to work this thing
02:48 < neo22> http://www.overclockers.com.au/ball/ball.php
02:48 <+prime_> the 89 is supreme
02:51 <+prime_> http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/5602/seriouslyhc4.jpg
02:51 < Damakaru> Merthsoft:  The only thing I really did on there is play games, as you can probably tell.  The 68k calcs are too powerful for the math I am in now.  :P
02:51 <+prime_> wtf that game is so hard
02:51 <+prime_> neo22
02:52 < glk> My url has much data on the TI-89 in MATH http://grahamkendall.net/
02:54 < Merthsoft> Damakaru: The only game i know to get to is DOOM
02:54 <+prime_> there is a game called drifter
02:54 <+prime_> much fun
02:56 <@_Auron_> prime_: it's not hard at all
02:56 < Damakaru> Merthsoft:  Got to setfold() into some of the other ones.
02:57 < Merthsoft> uh
02:57 < Merthsoft> thanks glk!
02:58 <@_Auron_> lol the ball is gone
02:59 < sir_lewk> I hate that game.  it is making me rage
02:59 <@_Auron_> it's really easy
02:59 < sir_lewk> not with a trackpoint
03:00 < sir_lewk> and I'm not bad with a trackpoint.  I play a decent game of quake3 with it
03:05 < millinao> msnbc is sucking obama's balls
03:05 < millinao> this is lame
03:06 <@_Auron_> uh
03:06 <@_Auron_> don't read/watch the news
03:06 <@_Auron_> it's full of shit
03:06 < millinao> usually they're cool
03:06 < i_c-Y> the whole world is sucking obama's balls
03:06 < i_c-Y> sadly.
03:07 < i_c-Y> bush was way better
03:07 < millinao> lawl
03:08 <@_Auron_> would it be weird if I drove over to a park, parked my car, and stayed there for like an hour?
03:09 < millinao> YES
03:09 < millinao> though do it anyway
03:09 < millinao> especially if small children play there
03:09 <@_Auron_> erm it's 9pm
03:09 <@_Auron_> no one is there
03:09 <+prime_> why would you sit there?
03:09 <@_Auron_> I feel like getting out of the house
03:09 <@_Auron_> and at 9pm there's no places even open to lounge
03:10 <+prime_> no bars?
03:10 <@_Auron_> ....
03:10 <@_Auron_> I'm 20
03:10 <+prime_> fail
03:10 < millinao> wait
03:10 < millinao> you want to get out of the house
03:10 < Damakaru> *Hears loud polices sirens, goes off to see what's going on.*
03:10 <+prime_> anyhow the bar age was 19 here
03:10 < millinao> so you go park outside and sit there
03:11 < Nikky> your roomie is a murderer, Damakaru 
03:11 <+prime_> and it was only 18 in the other city
03:12 <@_Auron_> aside from not knowing where any bars are, I don't know what their age restrictions are; I'm assuming 21
03:12 <+prime_> starbucks then
03:12 <@_Auron_> starbucks is closed inside at 9
03:13 < millinao> go take a walk
03:13 <+prime_> that's hella stupid
03:13 <+prime_> people need the coffee at night
03:14 <@_Auron_> inside is not the same as drive-through
03:15 < millinao> _auron_ you could go to the gym
03:15 <@_Auron_> sorry I can't afford $50/month to work out
03:15 < Damakaru> *Ought to do that.*
03:16 < Damakaru> It's free for me.  :P
03:16 < Damakaru> My idea of exercise is walking around half the campus.
03:17 < Damakaru> Once in the middle of the day, and again in the middle of the night.
03:19 < Nikky> starbucks closes at 9?
03:19 < Nikky> lulzrotflchopper
03:19 < millinao> starbucks sucks
03:19 < sir_lewk> http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09%2F01%2F21%2F2317222&from=rss
03:20 < sir_lewk> hey Nikky, how bout that new secretary of state?  I hear she is a champ.
03:20 < Nikky> Hells yes
03:20 <@Andy_J> it's official?
03:20 < Nikky> yeah
03:21 < Nikky> old news
03:21 <@Andy_J> Hilarious.
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03:21 < sir_lewk> my thoughts exactly Andy_J
03:21 < i_c-Y> what about the senate thing?
03:21 < i_c-Y> they didnt stop her?
03:21 < sir_lewk> iirc, they were somewhat different on their foriegn policy stances...
03:22 < i_c-Y> douchebags.
03:22 < sir_lewk> obama was a senator too dude
03:22 < i_c-Y> Nikky: joint ticket - i_c-Y + Nikky 2028
03:22 < Nikky> whooo
03:22 < sir_lewk> personally I'd be pretty peved if the dude I elected to be my senator decided to bailout halfway through and get a new job though
03:22 < Nikky> no, the senate voted 96-2 for her
03:23 < sir_lewk> silly american politics
03:23 < Nikky> the AG is delayed until next week though
03:23 < Nikky> and the treasury secretary is going to a cmte vote tomorrow, I think
03:23 < Nikky> But soon... socialism!
03:23 < Nikky> WHOOOOO
03:23  * sir_lewk is listening to Sigur Ros
03:23 < sir_lewk> pretty seriously badass music :)
03:23 < Damakaru> _Auron_:  $(cd kitchen/coffee && ./configure --without-crème --without-milk --with-sugar=2 && make && make install)
03:24 < Nikky> hahahahahaha linux
03:24 < sir_lewk> yarly nerd
03:24 <@_Auron_> we don't have coffee or a coffee maker here and I like my coffee black kthx
03:25 < Nikky> I only have an espresso maker
03:25 < Nikky> but I drink tea 99% of the time
03:25 < sir_lewk> gzipping coffee yeilds a decent expresso I hear
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03:26 < sir_lewk> http://instantrimshot.com/
03:27 < i_c-Y> i need a coffee maker
03:29 <@_Auron_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HplZ_taHXLM
03:31 < ports-> hrm
03:31 < ports-> i bought a bottle of perrier water
03:31 < ports-> is that stuff any good?
03:32 < sir_lewk> http://www.last.fm/music/Sigur+Ros
03:32 < sir_lewk> highly suggested
03:32 < sir_lewk> Icelandic post-rock ftw
03:34 < i_c-Y> seeing as you're not white, ports- , no
03:34 < Nikky> ^
03:34 < Damakaru> *Googles.*
03:36 < sir_lewk> I should learn icelandic
03:36 < sir_lewk> seems like a very practical language to know
03:36 < Tari> mm, is indeed hawt (Sigur Ros)
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03:41 < i_c-Y> theres a chick?
03:41 < Tari> no
03:41 < i_c-Y> iirc sigur ros is all dude
03:41 < i_c-Y> s
03:41 < Tari> referring to the sound
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03:44 < sir_lewk> the lead singer is gay though
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03:47 < Tari> yay for exam week
03:47 < Tari> I don't have to go to school until 10:30 tomorrow
03:53 < Merthsoft> silly children
03:54 <@Andy_J> ^
03:54 < Merthsoft> why don't i get any gps reception in my room :/
03:54 <@Andy_J> because satellite signals are shit indoors
03:56 < Merthsoft> works by the window :)
04:01 < sir_lewk> go figs
04:01 < sir_lewk> just build your next house out of windows and we won't have this problem again.  Kay?
04:03 < Merthsoft> okie dokie pokiew
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04:06 <@efneTI92> [Dauron] We called it Sin.
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04:10 < ports-> i_c-Y, youre poor
04:12 < Merthsoft> http://tcpa.pastebin.com/m67f54a9b wtf does this mena?
04:12 < Merthsoft> mean*
04:13 < Tari> prolly missing some header(s)
04:14 < Merthsoft> no, they're all there
04:14 < sir_lewk> Merthsoft: you're not linking something
04:14 < sir_lewk> what is in send.c?  what does it use?
04:14 < Merthsoft> http://tcpa.pastebin.com/m64d31225
04:15 < sir_lewk> with ncurses I have to #include <ncurses.h>, but I also have to do 'gcc -lncurses ...'
04:15 < sir_lewk> maybe 'gcc -lnsockets ...' or something, dunno
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04:15 <@efneTI92> [Dauron] We called it Sin.
04:15 < Merthsoft> no, i was compiling this before when port and addr were just #defined
04:17 < Merthsoft> oh, heh
04:17  * Merthsoft is dumb
04:17 < sir_lewk> just build for me
04:17 < Merthsoft> yeah i was in the wrong place
04:17 < sir_lewk> oh, lol ;P
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04:18 <+Netham47> anyone got a small program to convert from hex/decimal/binary?
04:19 < sir_lewk> not on me, no
04:19 < Tari> write one
04:19 <+Netham47> know a name I can google for?
04:19 < Tari> just write one
04:19 < sir_lewk> should be able to hack up one pretty quick
04:19 < Tari> it would have to be, what, 5 lines of code maybe?
04:19 < sir_lewk> yar
04:20 < sir_lewk> well, depends how user friendly you want it
04:20 < sir_lewk> accepting commandline arguments and junk
04:20 < Tari> doesn't it always...
04:20 < sir_lewk> yup :-/
04:21 < BrandonW> Lost season 5 has begun!
04:21 <+prime_> lol
04:21 <+prime_> do you have a torrent of it or something?
04:23 < BrandonW> No...why would you ask that?
04:23 <+prime_> didnt it air a while ago
04:24 < BrandonW> The premiere finished 20 minutes ago.
04:24 < i_c-Y> Netham47: od converts files between formats. if not, you can do it with printf in c
04:24 <+prime_> ohhh
04:25 <+prime_> wow i didnt know it was two hours long
04:25 <+prime_> and i thought it was at 7
04:25 < i_c-Y> theres also the Java converting base thing.
04:25 < i_c-Y> in Math
04:25 < BrandonW> They're only doing six.
04:26 <+Netham47> i_c-Y, just numbers.
04:26 <+Netham47> but I could one.
04:26 <+Netham47> found*
04:28 < Damakaru> *Has had bleXnoide's "Traumatized For Life" stuck in his head all day long.*
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04:35 < sir_lewk> I should probably update my version of amarok, I just rescaned my collection and it put all my Rush albums under Radiohead :-/
04:35 < sir_lewk> terrifying! :O
04:39 < Merthsoft> if i'm printf-ing, and i want it to buffer with some spaces, but i want those spaces to be dependent on the length of the input before, how could I do that?
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04:45 < Damakaru> *Wonders how people can listen to a song, where the only words they say is "buttfuck," and two-dimensional spatial directions.*
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04:45 < Damakaru> s:is:are:
04:46 < Damakaru> (Sometimes three.)
04:50 < sir_lewk> not everyone can have as fine musical taste as the fine gents of #tcpa
04:51  * sir_lewk is listening to Mortal Kombat: 4:45
04:51 < sir_lewk> ;P
04:53 <+prime_> nd: peach tea
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04:53 < sir_lewk> np: Muse, Knights of Cydonia
04:54 < sir_lewk> such an excellent song
04:55 < Damakaru> *Goes off to walk around.*
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04:59 < sir_lewk> http://www.cs.drexel.edu/~jlg95/stuff/11%20-%20Knights%20of%20Cydonia.ogg
04:59 < sir_lewk> good shit
05:01 < Merthsoft> so let's say i'm making a chat program. the clients and server all need to send and recieve at the same time. what's the best way to do this, given that send and recv block?
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05:20 < Spengo> you knwo what someone should do
05:21 < Spengo> make a PSP browser than can use virtual memory
05:21 < Spengo> use the flash stick
05:21 < Spengo> I don't care how slow it is, it's better than going ZOMG OUT OF MEMORY all the time
05:23 < Spengo> in fact it really should be part of the OS...
05:23 < Spengo> but hurr durr it is too slow for games and no one would use this for something other than games right?
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05:24 < Merthsoft> right
05:27 < Damakaru> Can't hook up an external hard drive to a PSP?
05:29 < Milyardo> Not with Sony's Firmware
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05:46 < Damakaru> Poor taco.  (http://news.mmosite.com/content/2009-01-19/20090119004523934.shtml)
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06:15 < _Digital> !t Welcome to TCPA | http://www.junemann.nl/maxcoderz/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=2736 | Doesn't Matter!
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06:20 < Damakaru> *Screams.*  (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3077/2588746706_e393a221d9.jpg)
06:20 < Damakaru> *Still screaming:*  The cake is a lie!  The cake is a lie!
06:20 < _Digital> Damakaru, use /me
06:20 <@_Auron_> Damakaru
06:20 <@_Auron_> have you EVER acted like an adult in your life?
06:22 < Damakaru> Define "adult."
06:22 < _Digital> mature
06:22 < _Digital> not like krisk
06:23 < _Digital> or a teenage girl seeing the Jonas Brothers
06:23 < _Digital> suitable examples _Auron_?
06:24 < Damakaru> Oh.  Well, IRL, I don't talk/emote that much unless I absolutely have to.  Stuff pretty much stays bottled up until I'm to myself.
06:25 <@_Auron_> or just not someone who acts like a hyperactive child that overexaggerates everything
06:25  * _Digital watches scripts for updating my ticalc.org mirror kick into gear
06:25 < Damakaru> So, I got no opinion on that.
06:26 < Damakaru> Internet is a different story, because I'm still physically to myself.  Tend to get a little bit crazy.
06:27 < _Digital> we couldn't tell?
06:29 < Damakaru> If TCPA were a forum, I'd probably do a lot better.
06:29 < _Digital> why
06:30 < Damakaru> I'm not so great in real-time. (Or whatever IRC is.)  :P
06:30 < Damakaru> On a social level.
06:31 < Milyardo> I'm just plain awesome
06:32 < Damakaru> Oh, and the almighty [Edit] button.
06:36 < Damakaru> Could be worse.  I could be Cricket.  :P
06:39 <@_Auron_> you're not far off
06:44 < Damakaru> Meh.  I'll deal with my social quirks one day.  I'm gonna have to, anyway, since college keeps trying to force me into being a non-independent-loner-type person.
06:46 <+prime_> QQ
06:47 < Damakaru> Isn't that some chat protocol?
06:47 <+prime_> qq = cry more
06:48 <@_Auron_> actually it's a warcraft 3 thing
06:48 <+prime_> no
06:49 <+prime_> well maybe in that too
06:50 < Damakaru> Why can't anyone just friggin' say things out on the Internet, in plain English, instead of cramming everything into weird acronyms?
06:51 <@_Auron_> bcuz ppl r laz-e n wnna typ dum
06:52 < Damakaru> That made my eyes bleed.
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06:55 < JoelS> Merthsoft: any luck?
07:04 < Damakaru> Eep, I have C++ homework to turn in tomorrow.
07:05 < Damakaru> *Grabs a dictionary list and gets cracking. (No, I'm not doing that. :P)*
07:05 < _Digital> Damakaru, I have the urge to kick you if you don't start using /me
07:05 < _Digital> I'm grumpy today
07:06 < Damakaru> Oh, right, IRC has that.
07:06 < _Digital> I've told you at least 4 times
07:06 < _Digital> in 2 days
07:07 < Damakaru> Well, I probably wasn't paying a whole lot of attention three out of four times.
07:07 < _Digital> no shit
07:09 < Damakaru> The asterisks just make it really easy to avoid having to span multiple lines.  For some reason I hate doing that.
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07:12 <@_Auron_> that made no sense
07:14 < Damakaru> * hate when I have to span things to multiple lines.
07:16 < _Digital> why can you not tell when you type it out before you hit enter?
07:17 < _Digital> I would think that is simple logic that doesn't require any significant observation
07:21 < Damakaru> Combination of typing *way* too fast, and not really thinking.
07:22 < Damakaru> (Sounds like nothing new, right?  :P)
07:22 < _Digital> pretty much
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08:11 <@efneTI92> [Netham45] Narf!
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08:32 < Spengo> HHMMMMMMmmmm
08:32 < Spengo> http://www.benchmade.com/products/product_detail.aspx?model=9500
08:32 < Spengo> I have the opportunity to buy that for $100
08:32 < Spengo> that is really tempting :|
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08:32 < Spengo> I'm not a fan of tanto-style blades or serration though... but $100 is a *really* good deal for that knife
08:37 <@chronomex> how often do you need a non-reflective knife?
08:49 < Spengo> oh wait a second, the one for sale is the 9530 with the curved blade
08:49 < Spengo> HELLS YES
08:49 < Spengo> I am buying it
08:49 < Spengo> chronomex, it's tacticool
08:54 < nicolas> what's a non-reflective knife?
08:54 < Spengo> that means it's black instead of shiny
08:54 < nicolas> oh
08:54 < Spengo> actually the shitty one I have now is non-reflective too, it's not really that interesting of a feature :P
08:54 < nicolas> it is when you're stealth military office in the jungle :D
08:55 < Spengo> the interesting parts are benchmade quality steel that will hold it's edge all the time
08:55 < Spengo> also automatic which is tacticool
08:56 < _Digital> damn, steak @ 1080i is HUGE!
08:56 < nicolas> could be worse... could be 1080p! :P
08:56 < Spengo> since I live in one of the few states where switchblades are not banned I sorta feel like I should have one just because
08:57 < nicolas> that seems to be the reasoning many people have with guns too
09:00 < Spengo> I've been needing a new knife for awhile though, my current one really is a piece of crap
09:02 < nicolas> I have this... http://www.victorinox.com/index.cfm?site=victorinox.ch&page=159&lang=E
09:03 < nicolas> but the old version without toothpick+tweezers
09:04 < Spengo> ah
09:04 < Spengo> nice and compact with lots of stuff in it
09:04 < Spengo> but I find the blades on those to be kind of thin and week
09:04 < Spengo> weak
09:05 < Spengo> and I never use anything except the blade anyway, heh
09:06 < nicolas> hmm, the blade is good, only problem is it it's a bit short sometimes
09:06 < Spengo> I have this
09:06 < Spengo> http://www.knivesplus.com/bokerknifebk-ry967.html
09:06 < nicolas> I also have one of these http://www.opinel.com/rubrique-Carbon_steel-030101010000.html
09:06 < Spengo> fugly fail
09:06 < nicolas> but i can't remember what size
09:07 < nicolas> the blade on that one needs to be sharpened every so often but it gives an amazing cut
09:08 < Spengo> that page is not loading
09:09 < nicolas> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinel_knife
09:09 < Spengo> o that's kinda cool
09:10 < nicolas> and I also have a Laguiole lying around the house, but never use that at all, it's more of a decoration thingy... I mean the dam nthing costs around 200 euro :S
09:10 < nicolas> they're crazy though, they usually have pretty elaborate handles, some of them cost like > 700
09:11 < nicolas> I wouldn't be surprised to find some over 1000
09:12 < Spengo> wow
09:12 < Spengo> that's way too expensive for me lol
09:13 <@_Auron_> may as well be buying a sword at that price range
09:13 < Spengo> yeah lol
09:13 < Spengo> though a sword probably isn't very handy
09:16 <@E-J> mostly you use it with hand
09:16 <@E-J> so it's handy
09:16 < Spengo> not very useful I guess
09:17 < Spengo> unless you just want to have a sword so you can look like a badass with a sword
09:19 <@E-J> in army, in our group there were some anime nerd who bought some wooden stick which looks like sword and practiced with it on our free time
09:19 < Spengo> hah.
09:19 < Spengo> swords can cut tanks! really!
09:19 <@E-J> he didn't look very credible because he was overweight
09:20 < Spengo> I took a kendo class one summer, it was kinda fun
09:20 <@E-J> well, i was on coastal forces on island fortress, so no tanks there :)
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09:20 <@efneTI92> [leofox] All we do in hell is play DDR!
09:21 < Spengo> it's kind of neat to see how people used to fight in olden days
09:21 < Spengo> I want to learn how to fight with a european longsword
09:21 <@E-J> like in WWI? old tactics with modern weapons?-)
09:22 <@E-J> and soviet russia did same on winter war
09:22 < Spengo> no like late midieval stuff
09:22 <@E-J> ah
09:22 < _Digital> trebuchet!
09:23 < Spengo> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/37/Cpg339_135r.jpg
09:23 < Spengo> hehe
09:23 <@E-J> _Digital: too much civ?-)
09:23 < _Digital> E-J, no. Fell in love with them after Nova did a show on them
09:23 < Spengo> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/41/Cpg359_46v.jpg
09:23 < Spengo> blarg im ded
09:23 <@E-J> _Digital: was it that "perfect weapon"?
09:24 < Spengo> trebuchets are just cool
09:24 < Spengo> all swinging around and stuff
09:24 < _Digital> E-J, the physics of one is just beautiful
09:24 < leofox> i know them from age of empires
09:25 < Spengo> I'd also like to do some fencing, but the equipment to get into that is expensive
09:25 < _Digital> for whenever the site comes online again
09:25 < _Digital> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/lostempires/trebuchet/
09:25 <@E-J> i knew them from civ
09:25 <@E-J> "PBS web sites are currently unavailable due to a planned maintenance."
09:26 <@E-J> ah didn't read your text
09:26 < _Digital> ;)
09:27 <@E-J> http://natgeochannel.co.uk/Programmes/perfect_weapon i was refering to this
09:27 <@E-J> finnish channel showed that program and i accidentally watched trebuchet episode
09:27 < Spengo> crossbows
09:28 < Spengo> and then guns
09:28 <@E-J> they think that trebuchet is "perfect weapon"
09:28 < Spengo> nahh
09:28 < leofox> of course it's not E-J
09:28 < leofox> it's really single-purpose
09:28 < Spengo> trebuchets are kickass siege weapons
09:28 < Spengo> but crossbows, that's what brought down the nobility
09:28 < leofox> the perfect weapon would be that new shotgun
09:28 < Spengo> crossbows were the first great equalizer
09:28 < leofox> that can fire grenade shells
09:28 < Spengo> a peasant could kill a nobleman with lots of armor with relative ease
09:28 <@E-J> episode is "siege engines"
09:29 < Spengo> leofox, 12ga grenades kind of fail
09:29 < Spengo> 40mm is better
09:29 < leofox> Spengo it can also fire normal round
09:29 <@E-J> leofox: according to some discovery show, ak-47 is best weapon to use
09:29 < leofox> it has an automatic mode
09:29 < Spengo> yeah but you'd be better off using 00 buck
09:29 < leofox> ffs! an automated grenade shotgun
09:29 <@E-J> works even when ít's dirty etc
09:29 < Spengo> not really true
09:29 < leofox> yeah the ak is pretty nice
09:30 <@E-J> and it's easy to disassembly and assembly
09:30 < Spengo> AK has loose tolerances so it will work slightly longer when dirty
09:30 < Spengo> but it will still jam if you don't clean it
09:30 <@E-J> Spengo: but it's still easy to disassemblt
09:30 < Spengo> so are most guns though
09:30 <@E-J> -typos
09:30 < Spengo> I think anyway
09:30 < leofox> it's russian quality :P
09:31 < Spengo> still, they are very cheap
09:31 < leofox> it doesnt do anything fancy so it doesnt break
09:31 <@E-J> that's why americans were screwed on vietnam because their guns jammed more often
09:31 < Spengo> that wasn't the M16's fault though
09:31 < Spengo> M16 gets a bad rap from vietnam because they were issued without cleaning kits at all
09:31 < Spengo> and used really shitty dirty ammo
09:32 < Spengo> and then they dragged them around through jungles... what do you expect will happen :P
09:32 <@E-J> and it's more complex
09:32 < Spengo> they are quite reliable these days
09:32 < Spengo> not really
09:32 < Spengo> have you disassembled an AR E-J?
09:33 <@E-J> i have disassembled only rk :P
09:33 < Spengo> ah
09:33 < leofox> E_J spengo is american he probably has a bunch of these guns hanging in his home
09:33 < Spengo> well imagine something very similar, but instead of a piston going up to the gas block, a tube goes all the way back into the chamber
09:33 < leofox> because you need a semi-automatic rifle to protect yourself or something
09:33 <@E-J> leofox: and i was in army, i'm trained to kill, unlike he :P
09:33  * _Auron_ has never seen an actual gun before
09:34 < leofox> _Auron_ werent you from texas?
09:34 < Spengo> ARs are actually pretty popular in finland I think
09:34 <@_Auron_> leofox: yes I've lived in texas my whole life
09:34 < Spengo> I've seen a few finnish dudes posting on AR forums
09:35 <@_Auron_> that still doesn't change the fact that I've never seen and definitely not even touched a gun before
09:35 < leofox> texas sounds like gun nut redneck country
09:35 < Spengo> one guy on arfcom has a really nice varminting one that he hunts with a lot and he takes nice big pictures when he goes out
09:35 < Spengo> a finnish guy that is
09:35 < leofox> well i've seen handguns and stuff
09:35 <@_Auron_> yes well I happen to live in an area that has more than 30 people in a town
09:35 < leofox> because my grandmother has a gun for starting races and auch
09:35 <@_Auron_> in fact I live in an area that has hundreds of thousands of people
09:36 < leofox> these now are special types but she just to have a normal revolver with blank rounds
09:36 <@_Auron_> actually scratch that, I have seen a gun before.. my grandfather's funeral
09:36 < Spengo> anyway leofox it's not that you need a gun to protect yourself, the thought behind defensive firearms is more like a seatbelt
09:36 < Spengo> you don't expect to get in a crash, but you wear it anyways just in case
09:36 < leofox> except that when the other person has a seatbelt it doesnt make you a lot more vulnerable
09:37 < leofox> if guns are easily spread, the burglars etc might come at you with AKs too
09:37 < Spengo> burglars? hell no
09:37 < Spengo> burglars just want to steal stuff for money
09:37 < Spengo> they aren't going to risk their lives to steal it
09:37 < leofox> how do you call that
09:38 < leofox> the person on the street that threatens you to get your phone etc
09:38 < Spengo> mugging?
09:38 < leofox> yeah that
09:38 < leofox> I know someone, he was mugged by a guy with a knife
09:38 < Spengo> walking around with an AK would be pretty conspicuous methinks heh
09:38 < leofox> but he was really close to his home so he was like 'ok'
09:38 < leofox> he ran to his home to get his attack dog and 9mm
09:38 < Spengo> if you can you should always just give them the stuff
09:38 < Spengo> no don't go out hunting
09:39 < leofox> well he just got his stuff back
09:39 <@E-J> leofox: this conversation is like you try to convience religion fanatic or mactard or kevin kofler that they are wrong
09:39 < leofox> lol E-J
09:39 < leofox> +1 for the kkofler there
09:40 <@E-J> spengo is one of them, except he is guntard
09:40  * _Auron_ goes to sleep and hopes he doesn't wake up
09:40 < Spengo> but E-J, if you ban guns for civilians, then only the government will have guns
09:41 < Spengo> it's okay for a politician to say guns are bad when he's protected by a bunch of dudes armed with full auto weapons
09:41 <@E-J> and problem of that is?
09:41 < leofox> are americans afraid of their government?
09:41 < leofox> I dont get it, you elect these guys, right?
09:41 < Spengo> government shouldn't be the only people who have firepower
09:42 < _Digital> if I want to launch three commands simultaneously in the background, how would I do it?
09:42 < Spengo> there is actually a stronger argument to disarm cops than there is to disarm people with concealed carry licenses
09:42 < _Digital> on linux*
09:42 < Spengo> police have WAY more negligent discharges, wrongful shootings, and the like
09:42 < leofox> _Digital there's like a switch you can use
09:42 < leofox> command & I think
09:42 < leofox> Spengo over here police gun use is limited
09:42 < _Digital> that will put the command into bacground
09:43 < leofox> they cant just get their guns and shoot at civilians all the time
09:43 < _Digital> I want to do that to three simultaneously if at all possible
09:43 < leofox> like in Reno 911
09:43 < _Digital> or multiple simultaneously
09:43 < leofox> _Digital i have no idea I use windows
09:44 < _Digital> so I wonder why you decided to answer ;)
09:44 < leofox> I thought you wanted to enter a command in the background
09:44 < leofox> I always try to help if i can
09:45 < _Digital> wheather in teh background or not, it matters little
09:45 < _Digital> just particular on having multiple instances running at once, started at the same time
09:45 < Spengo> so where did E-J go
09:46 < Spengo> he just left his ad hominem argument and left
09:46 < leofox> I never understood why americans use the government argument for guns
09:47 < Spengo> most every state has a constitutional civilian militia in addition to the national guard
09:48 < Spengo> if our government starts to look too much like britain's I know of quite a few states that will secede
09:48 <@E-J> Spengo: i did go to watch fb and other things
09:49 < Spengo> fb?
09:49 <@E-J> i'm tired of this conversation because we can't change your opinions and you can't change ours
09:49 <@E-J> facebook
09:49 < Spengo> okay
09:50 < Spengo> well you are smelly and therefore your arguments are invalid
09:50 <@E-J> i'm older than you, so your arguments are invalid
09:50 < Spengo> well your women have hairy legs
09:51 < leofox> I come from a country where pot is legal so
09:51 < leofox> imma get some
09:51 < leofox> dunno
09:51 <@E-J> at least i have women
09:51 <@E-J> you just have men
09:51 < leofox> Spengo dont say anything bad about scandinavian women :P
09:51 < Spengo> but I have to ad hominem him back
09:52 < leofox> http://wwwc.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/0607/12/NYHETER-12s12-tjej-483_438.jpg
09:52 < leofox> typical swedish girl
09:54 <@E-J> http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/europe_vs_usa.jpg
09:54 < leofox> hehe yeh
09:54 < leofox> but thats france
09:55 < Spengo> fat people annoy me
09:55 <@E-J> yep
09:55 < _Digital> yup
09:55 < Spengo> it's so easy to not be fat
09:55 < Spengo> if they aren't going to take care of their bodies they deserve the fat :|
09:56 < _Digital> I'm going to go find food and sleep
09:56 <@E-J> it's easier to be fat
09:56 < Spengo> the key to not being fat is food choices I believe
09:57 < _Digital> you'd think a 140lb (63.5kg), 6ft (182.8cm) tall human would consume less
09:57 < Spengo> buy good ingredients and make it yourself is probably the best tip
09:57 < Spengo> since packaged stuff is full of all kinds of terrible shit
09:57 < _Digital> Spengo, that requires people ot not be lazy and take responsibility
09:57 < Spengo> and if you want to be fit it's as simple as 10 minutes of situps and pushups every morning and taking a hike every once in awhile
09:58 < _Digital> those two things are teh foundations of teh US
09:58 < leofox> hehe my keyboard has songs programmed in
09:58 < Spengo> fat people shouldn't own guns
09:58 < leofox> so you only need to know the melody and it will play it for you
09:58 <@E-J> _Digital: that's thin, yours?
09:58 < _Digital> yup
09:58 <@E-J> how old are you?
09:59 < Spengo> you are a skinny dude _Digital 
09:59 < _Digital> that 63.5 is on a heavy day
09:59 < leofox> lol it has Yankee Doodle
09:59 < _Digital> Spengo, oh I know
09:59 < Spengo> somewhat skinny anyway
09:59 < leofox> some silly politician here wanted Obama to sing that
09:59 < Spengo> I'm 5'10" 135-140 somewhere in there
09:59 < Spengo> I should work out more and get more muscles
10:00 <@E-J> i'm 188 and 83-85
10:00 < _Digital> E-J, finding my BMI?
10:00 <@E-J> yep
10:00 <@E-J> _Digital: but how old are you
10:00 < _Digital> nearly 23
10:01 <@E-J> ah, i was in army as stick as you (but i was 19 that time) now i don't do much training and eat like same and my weight is 10 kg more
10:02 < _Digital> I want to know what Nikky or Barrett are doing on V200. Someone is running VMware on it
10:02 < _Digital> E-J, my metabolism is getting a bit slower, but I'm eating more frequently now
10:02 <@E-J> i think my bmi was 18.7 or something like that on growing age
10:02 < Spengo> I used to be rather out of shape
10:02 < Spengo> still thin, but no muscles at all
10:02 < leofox> vmware on the voyage 200?
10:02 < leofox> wtf
10:03 < _Digital> yeah, I've been these specs for a good 4 or 5 years
10:03 <@E-J> so 66kg 
10:03 < Spengo> but not anymore!
10:03 < _Digital> leofox, V200 that is the name of Calcgame's server
10:03 < leofox> oh ok
10:03 <@E-J> and now it's 85kg, but i'm trying to lose weight so i will be 77kg
10:03 < leofox> E-J google doest find any cute finnish girls
10:03 < _Digital> M68K and V200 run on it
10:04 < leofox> the cute ones I do find are either swedish or chinese
10:04 < Spengo> I have a folder of girls with guns
10:04 < Spengo> :D
10:04 <+krisk> omgomgomg i look on irc and see "I come from a country where pot is legal so", discussion about weight and diet, and girls
10:04 <@E-J> leofox: http://static.iltalehti.fi/kuvagalleria/img/yleinen/9301.jpg are they, at least one on left
10:04 < Spengo> yay dresses
10:04 < Spengo> +1
10:04 < _Digital> krisk showed up
10:04 < _Digital> that is my cue to leave
10:05 <@E-J> leofox: http://blogitus.net/wp-inst/wp-content/blogs.dir/2847/files/2008/04/Kiira.jpg
10:05 < Spengo> dresses and skirts are awesome, girls should wear them more and pants less
10:05 < leofox> yeah pants are for guys
10:05 < _Digital> E-J, there is photoshop in that photo
10:05 < leofox> http://beneluxbabes.com/wp-content/2008/06/dutch-girl-03.jpg
10:05 < leofox> lol dutch girl
10:06 < leofox> dutch girls are so tall and big
10:06 < leofox> http://www.nicomokveld.nl/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/fatima.jpg <-- dutch hockey girl
10:06 < Spengo> hey E-J, what's your weird fetish
10:06 < leofox> http://www.xarj.net/wp-content/gallery/doutzen-kroes/doutzen-kroes12.jpg
10:07 < leofox> dutch girl working for some lingerie company
10:07 <@E-J> leofox: land hockey, not ice?-)
10:07 < leofox> yes land hockey
10:07 < Spengo> too much makeup on that last one leofox 
10:07 < leofox> only canadians play hockey on the ice
10:07 < Spengo> last 2 actually
10:07 < leofox> Spengo the hockey girl was photoshopped too
10:07 < leofox> but meh
10:07 < leofox> these are like the cute girls or something
10:07 < Spengo> c'mon, everyone has a weird fetish. I don't trust anyone without a weird fetish
10:08 < leofox> from our country
10:08 <@E-J> ice hockey is most popular sport in finland
10:08 < leofox> Spengo if someone doesnt want to tell their fetish it's usually sick as hell
10:08 < Spengo> I am jaded
10:08 < Spengo> I am from the internets
10:08 <@E-J> leofox: http://www.seiska.fi/julkkiskuvat/_a77424/ihana+kiira+hehkeina+kuvina/ finnish figure skater
10:08 < Spengo> as long as it is not furry you are cool
10:08 < leofox> http://www.spitsnieuws.nl/archives/images/lucaprinskaas001_gr.jpg
10:09 < leofox> dutch girl that was "discovered" when she went swimming on jan 1st
10:09 < _Digital> E-J, you keep showing retouched photos
10:09 < leofox> ugly face but nice tits
10:10 < leofox> _Digital everything is retouched now
10:10 <@E-J> i was saying something about nose but leo was first
10:10 <+krisk> wat ugly face she's pretty cute
10:10 <+krisk> the pale girl who was behind her in the original pic she was discovered in was much nicer though
10:11 <+krisk> finnish blondes are infinitely cuter than ours though
10:11 <+krisk> but our redheads are cutest
10:13 <@E-J> yes you have anneke van giersbergen
10:13 < leofox> http://www.missmaaike.nl/ec_pick1/ecp_m1228727960.jpg
10:13 <+krisk> i think popular opinion about girls in holland is more based on the airburshing and makeup than actual girls i cant think of any well known dutch girls that are actually cute, just hot plastic bags of tits and makeup
10:13 < leofox> dutch girl who lives 20 km from here
10:14 < leofox> she was 2nd in the miss holland competition
10:14 < Spengo> I like girls better with little or no makeup
10:14 <+krisk> and Simone Simmons
10:14 < leofox> but the girl that won was ugly as hell and not even dutch
10:14 < Spengo> hair color doesn't matter to me, but I have a thing for short hair
10:14 <@E-J> dutch have some weird fetish with all those vovels
10:14 <+krisk> oops gonna be late for my job interview
10:14 <+krisk> bb
10:14 < leofox> http://www.missnederland.nl/301108/Deniz_Akkoyun.JPG
10:15 <@E-J> names have more vovels than some finnish words
10:15 < leofox> ugly turkish girls with moustache shouldnt win miss netherlands
10:15 <+krisk> bah
10:15 < Spengo> I like thin girls with small perky tits
10:15 <@E-J> except maybe hääyöaie
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10:15 < Spengo> and I like skirts and dresses because I like legs better than ass
10:15 < leofox> yeh
10:15 < leofox> I'm a bit of a leg man too
10:19 < Spengo> leofox, that last one is ew
10:19 < Spengo> http://www.guzer.com/pictures/laughing_horse_teeth.jpg
10:20 < Spengo> A STRIKING RESEMBLANCE
10:34 < leofox> Spengo yeah i said she was ugly
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11:43 <@E-J> http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3408/3215565127_916eb7676a_o.jpg
11:56 < leofox> lol E-J
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14:07 < ports-> hey
14:07 < ports-> any of you play WoW or any similar games?
14:07 <@benryves> Heya ports-, and no.
14:08 <@benryves> Why do you ask?
14:11 < ports-> http://www.flickr.com/photos/28782443@N08/3215968196/
14:11 < ports-> a friend of mine is a police officer.. he and several other officers play on Ikariam.net  its a WoW like game sort of
14:11 < ports-> just wondered if anyone played it, or if they wanted to join with me
14:36 < sir_lewk> mmorpgs arn't my thing
14:37 <@benryves> Hi sir_lewk
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14:42 <+krisk> yoyoyo
14:42 <@benryves> 'lo krisk
14:49 < sir_lewk> hello benryves krisk
14:50 < ports-> sir_lewk:  me neither
14:50 < ports-> ever heard of maplestory?
14:50 < ports-> i created my character on maplestory 5 years ago.
14:50 < ports-> most people get past level 30 in a week
14:50 < ports-> ive been level 27 or 28 for 5 years
14:51 < sir_lewk> heh, no I haven't
14:51 <+krisk> lol maple story
14:51 < sir_lewk> I'm pretty out of touch with games and stuff in general
14:56 <+krisk> ahahaha you do not want to know what i just found someone post on a forum
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14:58 < sir_lewk> Yes.  Yes I do.
15:04  * sir_lewk destroys krisk in a fit of curiousity and impatiance
15:04 <+krisk> Appie is a Dutch artist that paint with his penis.
15:04 <+krisk> I always paint with a rigid penis
15:04 <+krisk> The painting is readyBecause ......And the erotic energy comes into the painting in my abstract work.
15:04 <+krisk> http://www.penispainting.com/
15:06 < sir_lewk> hahahaha
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15:19 <+krisk> crazy dutchies
15:26 <+krisk> lol religion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2WrkubuBRk
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16:30 <+krisk> man i cant live without all 720pixels in series
16:30 <+krisk> just inject em right into my veins
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16:33 < Damakaru> In C++, can I break out of a nested loop with one "break"?
16:33 <@benryves> No. That's what goto is for.
16:34 <+krisk> alt+f4
16:36 < Damakaru> krisk:  Too bad that trick only works on Windows and non-tiling-window manager users.  :P
16:37 <+krisk> and ubanto
16:43 < Merthsoft> Damakaru: you can set a flag, break out of one, then in the other check the flag and break
16:43 <@benryves> Merthsoft: Ick. :(
16:43 < Merthsoft> better than a goto
16:44 <+krisk> actually i would think messing with the loop logic and structure would be worse than a simple goto
16:44 <@benryves> Not at all, a goto is clear in its intention and doesn't clutter the loop. But, if we're running through alternatives there's also throwing an exception (extremely ugly) and turning the outer loop into a method and returning from it.
16:44 <+krisk> +1 for benryves
16:44 < Merthsoft> quiet krisk 
16:44 <+krisk> +lulz for krisk
16:45 < Damakaru> I won't get a memory leak or something doing that, will I?
16:46 <@benryves> Damakaru: Not unless your compiler is broken, no.
16:46 <@benryves> There's also http://gamedev.pastebin.com/d5886b63a if you're feeling perverse.
16:47 < Merthsoft> awesome
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16:48 <@benryves> Same as the method trick, but being a lambda expression it takes the scope of where it's being called. :D
16:50 <@benryves> Using goto as a labelled break is one of the few places I'd personally consider it useful (that and to simulate fall-through in C#'s switch statements).
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16:58 <@benryves> Merthsoft: Have you seen the new C# 4.0 features?
16:59 < Merthsoft> i have not
16:59 <@benryves> Ah. Awesomeness is coming. :D
17:00 <@benryves> Finally adopting some of the VB.NET features that have been sorely missing, such as named parameters, optional parameters and optional ref on COM interop.
17:00 < Merthsoft> ooh
17:00 < Merthsoft> wehat's a named parameter?
17:01 <@benryves> SomeMethod(Width:=100, Height:=200, Name:="Hello");
17:02 <@benryves> Useful as that allows you to skip over parameters if you want to use the defaults without having to create hundreds of different overloaded versions.
17:02 < Merthsoft> oh!
17:02 < Merthsoft> nice
17:03 <@benryves> http://gamedev.pastebin.com/d58f44c4 <- if you've ever done COM interop in C# you'd know why this is useful. :P
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17:05 < Merthsoft> i've not but that looks ill
17:06 <+krisk> Supernatural Season 4, Ep 12: Criss Angel Is A Douche Bag
17:06 <+krisk> haha
17:06 < sir_lewk> lawdy what is that
17:06 <@benryves> Merthsoft: There's also support for the new DLR (Dynamic Language Runtime) allowing you to deal with dynamically typed objects (statically typed as dynamic) without needing to manually invoke methods using reflection.
17:07 <@benryves> object o; o.GetType().InvokeMember("Hello", BindingFlags.InvokeMethod, null, o, new object[] { "World" }); -> dynamic d; d.Hello("World");
17:07 <+krisk> sir_lewk: brilliant series
17:07 < sir_lewk> oh, no I meant benryves's code
17:08 < sir_lewk> Missing, Missing, Missing.....
17:08 <@E-J> benryves: somehow that doesn't look very beautiful
17:08 < sir_lewk> or whatever
17:08 <@benryves> sir_lewk: COM interop with Microsoft Word in C#. It's a hideous mess. In VB.NET you can just not pass the missing parameters and it handles it automatically, in C# you have to explicitly pass Type.Missing.
17:08 <@Andy_J> So it makes it even harder to read the code? :)
17:09 < sir_lewk> bizarre
17:09 <@benryves> sir_lewk: Quite. So I'm glad they're finally fixing the bloody thing in C# 4.0. :D
17:10 <+krisk> How I Met Your Mother: Season 4, Ep 14: Barney Stinson: That Guy's Awesome
17:10 <+krisk> haha++
17:19 <+krisk> hahaha np: Green Nuns Of The Revolution - Green Nunions
17:20 <+krisk> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Nuns_Of_The_Revolution
17:20 <+krisk> today is a funny day
17:32 <+krisk> omg i look away from the hardware market for a moment and now we have GF295GTX 1792mb ram and 2x448 bit memorybuss!?
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17:34 < Grue`> Yes
17:34 < Grue`> The GF295GTX is two GFX280s on one card
17:34 <+krisk> now i dont like my 8800 any more
17:34 < JoelS> Merthsoft: yo yo yo
17:35 < Merthsoft> hi JoelS 
17:36 < JoelS> Any progress on 2 dimensions?
17:36 <+krisk> anyone know anything about PNY Quadro FX(5600) vid cards?
17:36 < Merthsoft> JoelS: I got distracted by homeworks.
17:36 <+krisk> (like, wtf they cost 4000 euro each)
17:36 < Merthsoft> I made progress on my chat program!
17:36 < JoelS> Understandable
17:36 < JoelS> lol
17:37 <@benryves> Heya JoelS
17:37 <@benryves> Merthsoft: IRC?
17:37 < Merthsoft> no
17:37 < Merthsoft> i'm in a networking class and our first assignment is a little im client
17:37 < Merthsoft> we have to make the server and the clients
17:37 < Merthsoft> it's pretty fun, actually
17:39 <@benryves> Oh, that's cool then. :D IRC is a bit of a pig.
17:39 < JoelS> Merthsoft: ask your professor if you can use thrift
17:39 < Merthsoft> what's thrift?
17:39 < JoelS> Merthsoft: my final project in that class I wrote IRC from scratch with file sharing built in - that was a bitch
17:39 < Merthsoft> jesus
17:40 < JoelS> Merthsoft: wasn't that bad - I built a small publisher/subscriber framework
17:40 < JoelS> And sent messages and files over the same framework
17:40 < JoelS> Merthsoft: http://developers.facebook.com/thrift/
17:40 < JoelS> ^^^ you can write an IM client in 5 minutes :D
17:40 < Merthsoft> brb
17:40 <@benryves> JoelS: You mean you completed an IRC client? Such dedication! :P
17:41 < JoelS> benryves: I mean, it didn't follow IRC protocol or have all the features
17:41 < JoelS> benryves: I meant I wrote the concept of IRC: users, channels, private messages
17:41 < JoelS> And I wrote server and clients
17:42 <@benryves> JoelS: Oh, that's not so bad then, still a cool project but without the silly protocol. :D
17:42 < sir_lewk> facebook should have an irc client thingy
17:42 < JoelS> It wasn't a tiny project - but a good learning experience
17:42 < JoelS> sir_lewk: ?
17:42 <+krisk> with public rooms yes
17:42 <+krisk> (chans)
17:42 < sir_lewk> so people can go onto my facebook page, type shit in, and it'd /msg me on efnet or something
17:42 <@benryves> For groups, I suppose?
17:42 < JoelS> sir_lewk: ing - make an app?
17:42 < sir_lewk> or with channels
17:42 < JoelS> interesting*
17:43 <+krisk> go to psytrance group page, click on chat, chat with likeminded hippies :D
17:43 < sir_lewk> I don't know how to do app stuff or whatever, webdev isn't my thing
17:43 < sir_lewk> krisk: yeah exactly
17:43 <+krisk> could make it a firefox extention easily
17:43 < JoelS> Merthsoft: you should see if the channel can solve that problem :D
17:43 <+krisk> and by easily i mean frustrating even with an irc lib
17:44 < sir_lewk> groups could put it up configured to talk on certain channels, individual people could put one up configured to just send them /msg's
17:44 <@benryves> sir_lewk: Get coding, I guess. :D
17:44 < sir_lewk> :P
17:44 <+krisk> actually you could have the plugin/extention/app create rooms automatically on some server
17:44 < sir_lewk> I have more important projects right now, like my roguelike ;P
17:44 <+krisk> and by rooms i mean channels
17:44 < sir_lewk> right
17:44 < JoelS> benryves: where are you again?
17:45 <@benryves> JoelS: Croydon (South London).
17:45 < JoelS> Cool. You wanna move here?  You should apply
17:45 <@benryves> Where is "here"?
17:45 < JoelS> Silicon Valley, baby
17:45 <@E-J> i think it's somewhere where they speak bad english
17:46 <@benryves> Not that I really could at the moment, nor would I especially want to tbh.
17:46 <+krisk> ooh ooh ill go to US
17:46 <+krisk> cheap houses and awesome raves
17:47 <@E-J> JoelS: facebook is hiring?
17:47 < JoelS> E-J: ALWAYS
17:47 <+krisk> and less rain
17:47 <+krisk> is silicon valley sunny?
17:48 < JoelS> krisk: 65-95 and sunny year round, only a couple weeks of rain
17:48 <+krisk> excellent
17:48 <+krisk> what's the alt population like?
17:49 <@E-J> 18-35, if it would be 65 all the time, i would like, but that 95 is too much
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17:49 <+krisk> depends on humidity
17:49 <+krisk> here in NL 35 isnt fun
17:49 <@benryves> E-J: Thanks for the translation. :P
17:49 <+krisk> but in a dry climate its fine
17:49 <@benryves> I start to feel ill > 20 in the UK. :\
17:50 <+krisk> also, for a moment i thought you were talking about ages for alt chicks
17:50 <@E-J> benryves: i had to live all summer 2006 in flat where inside temp was 32C
17:50 <@benryves> E-J: Yikes. :(
17:50 <+krisk> 18-35 sure nice... 65 O_o 95 O_O
17:51 <@E-J> actually outside was cooler
17:51 <@benryves> (Summer 2006 - was that the one where people were dying?)
17:51 <@E-J> maybe 25 or so
17:51 <+krisk> yeah i had that with my room too in summer
17:51 <+krisk> i figured out a system of cooling to keep it around 25
17:51 <@E-J> hmmm, might be
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17:51 <+krisk> yeah that was the one
17:51 < tifreak> hello..
17:51 <+krisk> old people --
17:51 <@benryves> Heya tifreak
17:51 < tifreak> gots.. a question..
17:51 <@E-J> normally when europe is hot, finland is cold and other way around
17:52 <+krisk> lu there
17:52 < tifreak> and I am utterly confused on what to do with this.. o.O
17:52 < tifreak> you know those emails that float around that say "such and such died, has x million dollars" etc?
17:52 <@benryves> 419s?
17:52 <@Andy_J> scams?
17:52 < sir_lewk> nigirains
17:52 < tifreak> yeah, those..
17:52 < sir_lewk> [sic]
17:52 <@benryves> The best one is the astronaut one. :D
17:52 < tifreak> has anyone actually gotten one in snail mail before?
17:53 <+krisk> yeah that happens
17:53 < sir_lewk> lol, no
17:53 < sir_lewk> that's funny
17:53 < tifreak> lol, well, I got one.. and it IS from spain..
17:53 <@benryves> Not personally, but seen it happen tifreak
17:53 <@E-J> benryves: though if outside temp is over 23, i don't really like it, but if inside temp is less than 23 i don't like it :)
17:53 <+krisk> i think its been mentioned in here and ive seen it reported by people on forums
17:53 < i_c-Y> ^^^
17:53 < tifreak> I just find this.. so damned funny..
17:53 <@benryves> E-J: Well, aren't you fickle. :P
17:53 <@E-J> in my own flat i try to keep temp between 23 and 25
17:54 <@E-J> and of course sauna isn't sauna if there is less than 75C :P
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17:54 <+krisk> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTTMSJw3-QQ
17:54 <+krisk> hello thar
17:54 <@benryves> Ah, http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/04/16/cosmic_419er/ - there we go. :D
17:55 <+krisk> http://www.419eater.com/html/trophy_room.htm    ^___^
17:56 < tifreak> well, anyways, this is funny.. I should totally frame this letter and hang it on the wall..
17:56 < tifreak> oooorrr...
17:56 < tifreak> call them and tell them I will only do business in person
17:56 <+krisk> no no
17:56 < tifreak> have them send me plane tickets
17:56 < tifreak> and sell them on ebay
17:57 <+krisk> tell them youll help but only if they prove they are for real by gettign a pic of themselves with today's paper and a fish on their head
17:57 < tifreak> lol
17:57 <+krisk> see http://www.419eater.com/html/trophy_room.htm
17:57 < tifreak> yeah, but in my way, I would be able to make money and scam the scammers! =D
17:57 <+krisk> "In this section you will find a selection of pictures that scambaiters have managed to get from their scammers."
17:57 <@benryves> http://www.zug.com/pranks/powerbook/ as well (another oldie but a goodie).
17:57 <+krisk> no you wont make money
17:59 < tifreak> a friend of mine found a reference that someone actually does do that krisk.. =p
17:59 < tifreak> I dun have the link to it though.. =/
17:59 <@benryves> How about the link krisk posted twice? :P
17:59 <+krisk> omg
17:59 <+krisk> i am ignored : (
18:00 < tifreak> umm. cause I have 10 different things going XD
18:00 < tifreak> and he talked about having pictures of people
18:00 < tifreak> I am talking that someone actually gets plane tickets and sells them
18:01 <+krisk> you know theyre professional criminals right
18:01 < tifreak> i know =p
18:01 <+krisk> and theyre not in countries with laws that care if they go find you and kill you dead
18:02 <+krisk> or kill the guy they have contacting you for failing his scam
18:02 <@Andy_J> as opposed to kill you alive?
18:02 <+krisk> yes
18:02 <+krisk> much worse
18:03 <@Andy_J> I suppose
18:03 <+krisk> :P
18:04 < tifreak> So, what are all ye gents doin today?
18:04 <+krisk> haha "I was going to leave you "EXCELENT EBAYER!!!!!11 A++++++++== WOULD SELL TO ANYTIME""
18:09 <+krisk> haha benryves that drawn laptop is genius
18:11 < Spengo> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neCIg0BiXbE
18:11 < Spengo> haha
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18:21 < tifreak> 871...? o.O
18:21 < tifreak> who's bot is that?
18:21 <+krisk>  efneT871 (~aardvarq@24.140.125.157) h
18:21 <+krisk> : )
18:21 < tifreak> ah
18:21 < tifreak> just.. never saw that one befer.. ^^
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18:23 <@Andy_J> that's 81's alnick
18:23 <@Andy_J> *altnick
18:24 <+krisk> : o alt nick
18:24 <@Andy_J> or rather fits its altnick mask
18:24 <+krisk> "Jeff was not heard from again. I personally e-mailed him for permission to run his story on ZUG, but after an initial response, I never heard from him again. All of his Web sites have come down, and he is nowhere to be found."
18:24 <+krisk> that is a bit disturbing
18:24 <+prime_> hah!
18:24 <+prime_> omg
18:25 <+krisk> hahaha fisting
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18:27  * tifreak scurries off to make some hot water for some hot chocolate.. <3 ^^
18:27 <@benryves> Hot water? Heathen!
18:28 <+krisk> water!?
18:28 <+krisk> blasphemy
18:28 < tifreak> I'm at work, I have nothing else.. <_<
18:28 <+krisk> no milk?
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18:30 < tifreak> um, no?
18:30 < tifreak> work, no milk
18:31 < tifreak> I don't think I even have any milk left at home.. hrm..
18:31 <+krisk> O_o
18:31 < tifreak> yeah, need to get more.. and cereal..
18:32 <+krisk> muesli ftw
18:33 < Spengo> I don't think that lady knows what fisting is
18:33 < tifreak> do I even want to know..? o.O
18:34 < tifreak> why in the world are you talking about.. that..? o.O
18:34 < Spengo> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neCIg0BiXbE
18:34 <@benryves> No milk at work?!
18:34 < Spengo> obama likes fisting
18:34 <@benryves> What do you put in your tea/coffee?
18:34 <+krisk> wat dont put tea or coffee in your milk!
18:35 <@benryves> Other way around, milk goes into tea. :P
18:35 <@benryves> Well, black tea.
18:35 < tifreak> lol
18:35 < Spengo> I like my black tea black
18:35 < Spengo> same goes for coffee
18:35 < Spengo> but I do put sugar in green
18:35 < tifreak> I use flavored stuff in mah coffee.. like white chocolate rasberry stuff.. =D
18:35 < Spengo> or honey
18:36 < Spengo> tifreak, es
18:36 < Spengo> ew
18:37 < tifreak> lol
18:37 < tifreak> its freakin awesome!
18:37 < tifreak> <3
18:37 <@benryves> Spengo: I like builder's tea; strong, with lots of sugar and a splash of milk. :D
18:38 <+krisk> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxf-RH0kwsI
18:38 < Spengo> wow those people are ugly
18:39 < Spengo> WHY SO SERIOUS
18:39 <+krisk> man it pays to be some skinny pale 90s pop icon
18:39 < Spengo> so you can get ugly whores and look like the joker from batman?
18:39 < Spengo> no thanks
18:39 <+krisk> just saying it pays
18:40 <+krisk> wouldnt mind chilling in a jakuzi with any of those "ugly whores"
18:40 < Spengo> you have poor taste in women
18:41 <+krisk> yes
18:41 <+krisk> and no
18:41 <@benryves> Now look at them yo-yos thats the way you do it, you play the guitar on the MTV. :P
18:41 <+krisk> money for nothin an alt chicks fo free
18:42 <+krisk> those ugly whores are the goth equivalent of the plastic barbiedolls shown at other times on mtv
18:42 <+krisk> psy trance cover of money for nothing is actually quite awesome
18:43 <@benryves> Even if it includes the word "trance"?
18:43 <+krisk> psy trance is special
18:43 <+krisk> it has guitars
18:43 <+krisk> sometimes
18:43 <+krisk> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9csgJkEG86s
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18:44 <+krisk> : (
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18:57 <@efneTI92> [Netham45] Narf!
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18:58 < i_c-Y>  narf?
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18:59 <@E-J> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:OMXI15.jpg
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19:55 <@E-J> http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2009/01/15/funniest-condom-ad-ever/
19:57 <+mtgrss111> lol
20:01 <+mtgrss111> holy crap, the f-zero 83+ demo!
20:03 <+mtgrss111> it looks so awesome =]
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20:23 < Ox40Work> Yay!
20:25 < sir_lewk> mtgrss111: where?
20:25 < Ox40Work> I got my resume in.....
20:25 <+mtgrss111> http://otbp.tifreakware.net/
20:27 <+mtgrss111> apparently it's also on Cemetech
20:29 <+mtgrss111> and Omnimaga...
20:29 <+mtgrss111> probaby on other sites, too.
20:31 < sir_lewk> I shall checkz it out soon
20:33 <+krisk> locke fuck yeah
20:34 < Damakaru1> (C++)  When using the extraction operator to read a file until the end, how could I reset that so I can start from the top again without having to "clear()," "close()," and re-"open()?"
20:36 <@E-J> http://www.kuvaboxi.fi/mediaobjects/orig/pub/2008/05/03/8143010478538617548orig.jpg
20:36 <+krisk> lol at those wires
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20:41 < sir_lewk> Damakaru1: good question
20:41 < sir_lewk> dunno
20:43 < sir_lewk> some sort of seek dealio?
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20:44 <+krisk> clear alone should reset it
20:44 <+prime_> what is that E-J?
20:45 <+krisk> you can retry on error or eof after clear
20:45 <+krisk> clear( ios:eofbit )
20:45 <@E-J> prime_: home of some nerd who apparently don't have a girlfriend
20:45 <+krisk> actually with the money for those cables he might have a gf
20:46 <+prime_> it looks like a city
20:46 <+prime_> roads and train lines
20:46 <+krisk> they're a/v cables
20:46 <+krisk> way too overpriced/overpowered for what would ever be noticable in a house
20:47 <+krisk> 5mm stereo copper wire would be plenty
20:47 <+krisk> silly rich people
20:47 <+Netham45> he has a gf.
20:47 <+Netham45> or a wife.
20:47 <+krisk> or a cleaning lady
20:47 <+Netham45> floral print curtains.
20:47 < Damakaru1> krisk:  Will "blacklist.clear()" work, too?
20:48 <+krisk> instream.clear() or clear( bit flag ) should work
20:48 < sir_lewk> Netham45: that's his mothers
20:48 <+krisk> and sir_lewk wins
20:48 <+prime_> why is all his stuff on stone slabs?
20:49 <+krisk> isolation
20:49 <+Netham45> ah, so he's the norman bates type...
20:49 < sir_lewk> Damakaru1: do you mean like "rewind()"?
20:49 < Damakaru1> Yes.
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20:49 <+krisk> crazy isolation, to keep vibration (sound) from seeping into the environment through the floor
20:50 <+krisk> for superduperyouwouldneverevereverevereverhearthedifference audio
20:50 < sir_lewk> lulz
20:50 < sir_lewk> what a nerd
20:50 < Ox40Work> E-J: what are all those wires about?
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20:50 < sir_lewk> clearly he is not gettng laid
20:51 <+krisk> also note the wooden cable "isolation" because the electric signals inside the highly isolated highly resistant golden a/v wiresmight fluctuate if the wires can fibrate!
20:51 <+krisk> *v
20:51 < Ox40Work> lol krisk
20:51 <+krisk> its true
20:51 < Ox40Work> lolarcasm
20:51 <+krisk> rich audiophiles are crazy
20:51 < Ox40Work> :P
20:51 < sir_lewk> the wooden sepearators are probably to keep the cables from interfering with each other
20:52 < Ox40Work> funny thing is... it looks like shit
20:52 <+krisk> no
20:52 < sir_lewk> and audiophiles with that much money should just learn to play an instrument themselves
20:52 <+krisk> those cables are isolated like crazy
20:52 <+krisk> the wood is against vibration
20:52 < sir_lewk> yeah
20:52 < sir_lewk> hmm
20:52 < sir_lewk> that's retarded
20:52 <+krisk> IN FACT the wood around the electrical wires ADDS to the NATURAL sound
20:52 < Ovan> everything vibrates =P
20:52 < sir_lewk> lmao
20:52 <+krisk> i wish i was making this up
20:53 < Milyardo> mmmmm good vibrations
20:53 <+krisk> 10$ says the volume knobs on those amps are made of wood
20:53 <+krisk> for the same reason
20:53 < sir_lewk> I have musician friends who swear that vacuum tubes are superior to solid state
20:53 < sir_lewk> I think *they* are nuts
20:53 < sir_lewk> this guy is just a quack
20:54 <+krisk> im surprised they dont use wooden wires actually
20:55 <+prime_> lol
20:55 <+mtgrss111> anybody here know about LMGT4U?
20:55 <+krisk> could make a wood&gold amplifier
20:55 < sir_lewk> you know what is lulz?
20:55 <+prime_> this is the speaker in the back http://www.magnepan.com/model_MG_36
20:55 <+prime_> and the wires are like that to avoid interference
20:55 <+prime_> even though they are already really shielded
20:56 < sir_lewk> telling audiophiles that vacuum tubes are no less solid-state than tranistors
20:56 <+mtgrss111> http://tinyurl.com/62bvbu
20:56 <+krisk> theres no interference with the floor
20:56 <+krisk> theyre seperating the wires yes but also keeping them from the floor
20:57 < sir_lewk> http://www.magnepan.com/img/logos/absolute_sound_small.jpg OH SHIT!
20:57 <@E-J> http://huuto.net/fi/showitem.php3?itemid=96079645 finnish ebay-sortof is selling this
20:57 < sir_lewk> they are recording music on water! :O
20:57 < Damakaru1> krisk:  Nope.  "clear()" alone did not work.
20:58 < Ox40Work> sir_lewk: frozen?
20:58 <+krisk> hmm sorry then Damakaru1
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20:58 < sir_lewk> Ox40Work: metalocalypse reference
20:58 < Ox40Work> ?
20:58 < Ox40Work> oh...
20:58 < Ox40Work> lame
20:58 < Ox40Work> :P
20:58 < sir_lewk> dunno what that picture actually is
20:58 < Ox40Work> lluyyyynnnccchhhhhh tyyymmmeeeeeee
20:59 < Ox40Work> lunch? lynch? nobody knows! muahahahahahah
20:59 < smart_> Hitler's awesome
20:59 <@E-J> Ox40Work: take your meds
20:59 < sir_lewk> one of the episodes they made fun of audiophiles, decided to record their music on water because it had the clearest quality
20:59 < Ox40Work> gwgm giw dud yiy jbiw>
20:59 < Ox40Work> -_-
20:59 < Ox40Work> heh, how did you know?
20:59  * sir_lewk wuvs smart_
20:59 < Ovan> does .h and .hpp have any REAL difference?
20:59  * smart_ kisses sir_lewk
21:00 < sir_lewk> no
21:00 <+krisk> yes, "pp"
21:00 <@E-J> Ovan: no
21:00 <@E-J> even hxx is same as them
21:00 < sir_lewk> and fools who use .hpp should be beaten with lengths of garden hose
21:00 < sir_lewk> *.*xx is idiotic too, I hate it
21:00 < Ovan> Does anybody know why they have one then? I was just wondering why .h(C header) is used in C++ when C++ header is .hpp
21:00 < sir_lewk> .c, .cpp, and .h
21:00 < sir_lewk> that's all you need
21:01 < Ovan> I guess it was thrown in there for no reason?
21:01 < Ovan> I've always used .h, I just wondered
21:01 < sir_lewk> nobody uses .hpp as c++ headers, there is no real point
21:01 < Ovan> ah
21:02 <+prime_> lets come up with a standard
21:02 <+prime_> one extenstion for all files
21:02 < Damakaru> I've never seen an ".hpp" in my life.
21:02 <+prime_> .file
21:02 <+krisk> .folder for folders?
21:02 <+prime_> so, resume.doc is now resume.file
21:02 < Damakaru> Why even file extensions at all?
21:02 < sir_lewk> .cxx, .hxx, and .hpp really grind my gears
21:02 < Ovan> I see it in Dev-C++ 'Save as...' dialog
21:02 <+krisk> extensions are awesome
21:03 <+krisk> cv.image cv.doc cv.pdf
21:03 <+krisk> woo
21:03 < sir_lewk> I *reaaaaly* hate *.txt
21:03 <+krisk> cv.txt
21:03 <+prime_> what grinds my gears is that extensions arent visible by defualt on xp
21:03 < sir_lewk> text files don't need extensions.  there is no point
21:03 < Ovan> *.prt
21:03 <+prime_> who ever thought that was a good ide
21:03 < sir_lewk> prime_: yeah really
21:03 <+krisk> thats always the very first thing i enable
21:03 <@E-J> .htm
21:03 < sir_lewk> ohmygawd
21:03 < Damakaru> It'd be easy to just name a file, and let the OS take care of figuring out what type of file it is, a la *NIX.
21:03 < sir_lewk> .html, neeeever .htm
21:03 <+krisk> cv.docx
21:04 < sir_lewk> ew
21:04 <@E-J> sir_lewk: in unix/linux enviroment you assume that files without any extension are programs or something like that
21:04 <+krisk> Damakaru then how will you know the difference between different filetypes of the same file/content
21:04 < sir_lewk> word processors are way overusd
21:04 < sir_lewk> E-J: ./README
21:05 < sir_lewk> why isn't it working!?!?!? :P
21:05 <+krisk> wat, that is the famous readme app
21:05 <@E-J> sir_lewk: well if they start with small letter and they are +x
21:05 < sir_lewk> yeah
21:05 <@E-J> README isn't +x :)
21:05 < sir_lewk> mmhm
21:05 <@E-J> Makefile isn't also
21:05 < sir_lewk> well, all my stuff except README, COPYING, TODO, ... are lowercase
21:06 < sir_lewk> I just have ls and stuff color stuff that is +x
21:06 < sir_lewk> green == +x
21:06 <+krisk> you would think the shell could figure out to open a file without +x with some kind of default editor for that file
21:06 < sir_lewk> not if you tell it to execute
21:06 <+krisk> so ./README would open that file with the default text editor
21:06 < Damakaru> I think it doesn't do that for a security reason.
21:06 < sir_lewk> nah, it does what you tell it to, not what you want it to
21:07 <+krisk> oh yeah, that would be something os x would do
21:07 < Ovan> "C:\WINDOWS\Application Data\Microsoft\WELCOME\WELDATA.EXE" "You_are_a_real_reascal" =D
21:07 < sir_lewk> the line between data and executables should not be blurred
21:07 < sir_lewk> I have no idea what that means
21:07 <+krisk> meh its blurred just as much in the ui
21:07 <+krisk> gui
21:07 < sir_lewk> yeah
21:08 < sir_lewk> there's a reason I don't use GUIs ;P
21:08 < sir_lewk> actually, numerous reasons
21:08 <+krisk> well you wouldnt want to have to choose the editor every time you click on a file
21:08 < sir_lewk> no
21:08 < sir_lewk> but even so, generally I'd be opening it from an editor that's already open
21:08 < sir_lewk> (that's just my workflow)
21:09 <+krisk> maybe term could insert the appropriate editor in the line you're typing when you do ./README<tab> or something
21:09 <+krisk> so it turns it into vi README or whatever
21:09 <+krisk> then lets you hit enter
21:09 < sir_lewk> so just open it in vi if it's -x?
21:09 <+krisk> that would be more conceptually clean
21:09 <+krisk> well i for one wouldnt open it in vi
21:10 <+krisk> id probably have to type gedit
21:10 < sir_lewk> that'd just seem weird to me
21:10 < Ovan> does the 'RUN > "C:\WINDOWS\Application Data\Microsoft\WELCOME\WELDATA.EXE" "You_are_a_real_reascal"' thing work on XP?
21:10 <+krisk> let me try
21:10 <+krisk> windows cannot fund RUN
21:10 <@E-J> windows cannot find...
21:11 < sir_lewk> just doing './whatever' is telling the shell it should run whatever.  doing 'vim ./whatever' is tellign the shell to run vim and tell vim to handle ./whatever
21:11 <+krisk> hence the tab
21:11 <@E-J> i put to run that c:\...
21:11 <+krisk> or whatever
21:11 <+krisk> ctrl+tab maybe idk
21:11 <+krisk> type file name, keyboard shortcut, and it turns it into the full sir_lewk-acceptable command that opens the default editor for that file type with the right path and everything
21:11 <+krisk> then enter
21:11 < Ovan> XP might have appdata in a different folder
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21:12 < sir_lewk> oh, you could probably set up stuff like that pretty easy
21:12 <+krisk> no, i have windows in a different folder
21:12 < sir_lewk> I'm sure zsh could do that
21:12 <+krisk> but RUN doesnt exist in windows regardless
21:12 < Ovan> %APPDATA%\Microsoft\Welcome\WELDATA.EXE "You_are_a_real_reascal" ?
21:12 < Damakaru> krisk:  Just make an alias for your edit, so you only have to type, like, "e," then the few letters of the file you want to edit and let tab completion handle it.
21:12 < Damakaru> s:it:itor:
21:12 < Ovan> START > RUN
21:13 < Ovan> =P
21:13 <+krisk> there is no welcome\weldata.exe
21:13 < Ovan> ah
21:13 < zeropod> Can't believe I'm using colloquy
21:13 < Ovan> Then it's not in XP, oh well
21:14 <+krisk> ok Damakaru
21:14 < sir_lewk> my shell won't tab complete names of -x files if you are trying to execute them like ./whateves
21:14 <+krisk> but youre special
21:14 < sir_lewk> nah, that's a default behaviour I think
21:14 <+krisk> oh :P
21:15 < Damakaru> Works for me out of the box.
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21:15 < Damakaru> With or without prefixing the dot-slash.
21:16 < _Digital> executing a script
21:16 < _Digital> Nikky, are you alive?
21:17 < sir_lewk> Damakaru: './' is in your default PATH?
21:17 < sir_lewk> I never liked that
21:17 < Damakaru> sir_lewk:  Nope.
21:17 < sir_lewk> oh
21:17  * sir_lewk confused
21:17 < sir_lewk> whatever
21:18 < sir_lewk> I have ~/bin in my PATH, I through stuff there that I like
21:18 < Damakaru> sir_lewk:  Oh, wait, you are right.  I was trying it on a file I had in "$HOME/bin."
21:18 < sir_lewk> one-liners for sshing to different accounts and stuff
21:18 < sir_lewk> ah
21:18 < Damakaru> It will complete if I prefix the dot-slash, but not without.
21:18 < sir_lewk> even if the file isn't +x?
21:19 < Damakaru> Even so.
21:19 < sir_lewk> it only tab completes +x files, unless I already have an executable on that line
21:19 < sir_lewk> maybe I did enable that somewhere...
21:19 < Damakaru> Well, actually, if it is not +x, it will not complete at all, unless after a command/executable.
21:20 < sir_lewk> ah, that's the same as here then
21:20 < sir_lewk> ok
21:20 < sir_lewk> well, that seems like a sane behaviour to me.  I kind of like zsh's quadzillion completion options though
21:21 < sir_lewk> I need to set that up again...
21:27 <@E-J> hmmm, when we made c++ project on school, the program that we made didn't need ./
21:27 <@E-J> which was weird
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21:31 < sir_lewk> I'd say ./ or whatever ./ was, was in your PATH, or someone symlinked it to somewhere that was in your PATH
21:33 <@E-J> there is that program http://aski.hut.fi/~relamsa/project_documentation.tar.gz
21:34 < Ovan> if you wanted to send data with a C++ string(std::string) and the program called for C, could you make a function like, SendData(const std::string&)?
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21:35 < Ovan> or would that be wrong
21:36 <@E-J> hmm, now it do need that ./
21:36 < Ovan> nvm
21:40 <+krisk> so my job interview went well this morning
21:40 < ports_> at what
21:40 <+krisk> ict marketing company
21:40 <+krisk> and there was a really cute pale black haired girl at the customer support department : o
21:41 < sir_lewk> black hair is win
21:41 <+prime_> got to love pale girls
21:41 <+krisk> and pale
21:41 < sir_lewk> is it shortish?
21:41 <+krisk> it was past her shoulders in length
21:41 < sir_lewk> ah, ok
21:41 <+krisk> excellent
21:41 < sir_lewk> yes
21:41 <+krisk> i am going to work there and be nice to her : )
21:42 < sir_lewk> lulz
21:42 < sir_lewk> you are going to take the job, then find out she's married >.>
21:43 < Ovan> can you connect to more than one server over the same port?
21:43 <+krisk> too young to be married
21:43 <+krisk> i hope
21:45 < sir_lewk> yars
21:45 <+krisk> in which case i will quit there and go work at the bowling alley
21:45 <+krisk> cute nerdy girl there : o
21:45 <+krisk> glasses n stuff
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21:50 <@efneTI92> [Netham46] Narf!
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21:50 < leofox> trox
21:50 <+krisk> wat
21:51 < leofox> omg glasses girl
21:51 < leofox> pix
21:51 <+krisk> dont have or i would be fappan now not ircan
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21:52 <+krisk> i will mary one of the two and show you the wedding pics ok
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21:52 < leofox>  too many gothic women on the Girls with Glasses site
21:52 <+krisk> watwatwatsite
21:52 < leofox> there s no such thing as too many gothic women with glasses
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21:53 <+krisk> i just see pink and text
21:53 < leofox> me too
21:53 < leofox> trying to find the gothic site
21:53 <+krisk> ooh flickr
21:54 < leofox> http://www.flickr.com/photos/31178276@N02/3200314096/in/pool-girlswithglasses omahgod blue hair
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21:57 < ports_> why are her boobs so big
21:57 <+krisk> there should be like a secret sign language to show other people youre interested in them
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21:57 < zeropod> krisk: Like flirting?
21:57 <+krisk> :P
21:57 < ports_> and what i mean is that they look padded
21:57 <+krisk> but obligatory
21:58 < ports_> http://www.flickr.com/photos/severus/3196083874/in/pool-girlswithglasses
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22:02 <+krisk> http://www.flickr.com/photos/xmachina/2894250180/in/pool-girlswithglasses
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22:02 <+krisk> hahaha wtf at that comment
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22:06 <+krisk> why do cute nerdy girls with glasses often have such amazingly cute smiles
22:06 < ports_> because you suck flankders
22:07 <+krisk> you mean cock?
22:07 < ports_> sure
22:07 <+krisk> ok
22:07 < Ox40Work> krisk: true true
22:07 <+krisk> you know what maybe ill go bowling again tomorrow and ask her out or something
22:08 <+krisk> but to what
22:08 <+Netham45> to go bowling?
22:08 <+krisk> teehee
22:08 <+krisk> that would be awkward in front of all her collegues n stuff
22:08 <+Netham45> it'll make you seem confident.
22:08 <+Netham45> which is a plus
22:09 <+krisk> actually
22:09 <+krisk> it might be pretty cool to just go like hey you work here so you be pretty good right wanna join in when she comes bring our drinks and things arent too busy
22:10 <+krisk> if she says no i can ask her to come play billiards that evening
22:10 <+krisk> if she says no to that then meh
22:14 < neo22> ~25% of packets sent to my router seem to be timing out 0_0
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22:30 <@_Auron_> krisk: what if she already has a bf
22:30 < ports_> he has one
22:31 <@_Auron_> ?
22:31 <+krisk> idk what then : (
22:31 <+krisk> kill him or find someone who doesnt have a bf
22:33 < leofox> we always say
22:33 < leofox> alles kan kapot
22:33 < leofox> everything can break
22:33 <+krisk> precies
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22:33 < leofox> sometimes you need to be more creative
22:33 < leofox> like when you dont know the girls name or where she lives
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22:34 < leofox> and only know her face from stupid internet movies
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22:35 <+krisk> and lulz were had
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22:39 < Milyardo> lulz where?
22:41 <@E-J> krisk: in finnish we have saying "hidaste, ei este" "restrainer, not barrier" for that kind of situations
22:41 < leofox> http://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/president_obama/
22:41 < leofox> funny how it never mentions he lived in indonesia for a long time
22:41 <+krisk> teehee
22:43 < leofox> hey wikipedia says
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22:43 < leofox> that george bush and barack obama share a common ancestor
22:43 <@E-J> everyone can edit wikipedia
22:43 < leofox> from Leiden
22:43 < leofox> (dutch town_
22:43 < leofox> but it has a citation
22:43 <@E-J> heh
22:45 <@E-J> so that's why bush was like he was, his ancestors had too much smoked bushes on coffee houses...
22:46 < leofox> huh
22:49 < Damakaru> Ha.
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22:59 <+krisk> leofox was pim fortuijn a good guy like obama?
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23:02 < sir_lewk> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/245859/qa-microsoft-defends-return-to-drm.html
23:02 < sir_lewk> holy shit batman! :O
23:02 < sir_lewk> Q: If I buy these songs on your service - and they're locked to my phone - what happens when I upgrade my phone in six months' time?
23:02 < sir_lewk> A: Well, I think you know the answer to that.
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23:03 < Damakaru> Nothing new to me.
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23:10 <+krisk> This is an introduction - it's a toe in the water for MSN Mobile and we'll see how the service develops and we'll keep a very close eye on it, and we'll look to amend and change it as necessary as time progresses.
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23:13 < sir_lewk> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1101459&cid=26566781 lulz
23:16 < Milyardo> who would have guess Windows uses the metric system
23:18 < Ovan> please correct if I'm wrong, but private class objects can only be used by the class itself, right?
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23:22 <@E-J> Ovan: right
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23:25 <@_Auron_> lolwtf: http://i519.photobucket.com/albums/u355/TitusEX/showimagephp.gif
23:26 < Ovan> mk
23:26 < Ovan> thanks E-J
23:33 <+Netham45> bahahaha
23:34 < sir_lewk> lol, is that a tranny or something?
23:34 <+Netham45> now I know why my teacher hated it when I played 'Buck Dich"
23:34 <+Netham45> apparantly he knows german
23:34 <+Netham45> lol
23:35 < Ovan> What the maximum data allowed to transfer threw IRC?
23:36 <+Netham45> what do you mean?
23:36 <+Netham45> max characters per line?
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23:36 < Ovan> a need a good number for a recieve buffer
23:36 < Ovan> yeah
23:36 < Ovan> Iguess that would be it
23:36 < Ovan> char RecieveBuffer['SomeNumber'], I dunno what to put though
23:37 <+Netham45> I would probabally do 350.
23:37 <+Netham45> but, I've seen servers that allow up to 1024.
23:37 < Ovan> you think I should use 1024 then?
23:38 <+Netham45> I think it should be up to the user to manage it. :)
23:52 < Ovan> can you create a varible inside an if() condition?
23:53 < Ovan> like "if(int a = 42 !=30) do_something();
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23:53 <@efneTI92> [TheStorm] Yes rivereye, it is time to go fishing.
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23:58 < ports_> anyone have a microsoft mouse?
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