--- Log opened Sun Jan 18 00:00:08 2009 00:01 < bsparks> wooooo 00:01 * bsparks is excited 00:02 < bsparks> I haven't been this excited since they started slowly cracking the ta082 00:02 <@_Auron_> I could switch to t-mobile and not pay much more than I pay now, but have 3G and get a much better phone 00:02 <@_Auron_> what, the ta-083v3? 00:02 <@_Auron_> or 088, whatever it is 00:03 < bsparks> no, the ta082, back when they originally cracked it. because I had one, and it was cool. But now there is/was a live vid of the ipt2g being jailbroken 00:03 <@_Auron_> oh 00:03 <@_Auron_> the ta-088v3 still hasn't been cracked yet 00:03 < bsparks> idk 00:03 < bsparks> I lost most connection with the psp community 00:26 -!- Netham45 [~Netham45@c-71-229-253-50.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Leaving] 00:32 -!- Netham45 [~Netham45@c-71-229-253-50.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 00:32 <@efneTI92> [Netham45] Narf! 00:32 -!- TehStorm [~TheStorm@CPE-24-167-219-81.wi.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:32 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Netham45] by efneTI80 00:33 -!- TehStorm [~TheStorm@CPE-24-167-219-81.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa 00:37 -!- mtgrss111 [~Administr@pool-71-248-153-140.dllstx.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #tcpa 00:41 -!- Netham45 [~Netham45@c-71-229-253-50.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:41 -!- Netham45 [~Netham45@c-71-229-253-50.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 00:41 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Netham45] by efneTI81, Remius 00:41 -!- Netham45 [~Netham45@c-71-229-253-50.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 00:43 -!- Netham50 [~Netham45@c-71-229-253-50.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 00:43 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Netham50] by efneTI80 00:43 < TD-Linux> the zune makes me angry 00:44 < bsparks> TD-Linux, my touch makes me happy :) 00:45 < bsparks> err, iPod 00:46 <@Andy_J> _Auron_: doesn't mean they're following the license agreement 00:48 -!- NethamSvr [~Netham45@c-71-229-253-50.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 372 seconds] 00:48 <@_Auron_> you're like a digital bible thumper 00:48 <@Andy_J> I'm filling in for Nikky. 00:48 < bsparks> have you ever hit someone with a dictionary? 00:52 < sir_lewk> "< bsparks> TD-Linux, my touch makes me happy :)" Pervert. 00:52 <@Andy_J> is it a touch of the younger kind? 00:53 < sir_lewk> O.o 00:53 <@Andy_J> (m-m-m-my sharona) 00:53 -!- kirsk [~krisk@j239072.upc-j.chello.nl] has joined #tcpa 00:53 < _Digital> !qadd <_Auron_> you're like a digital bible thumper | I'm filling in for Nikky. 00:53 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v kirsk] by efneTI89, efneTI81, Remius 00:53 <@efneTI86> Quote 1506 added 00:54 <@chronomex> !q 00:54 <@efneTI86> 500: <+DrDnar> wow, that was random | indeed | <+DrDnar> well, we are #tcpa anyway [Added: sjrberg at 2006/04/25 21:33] 00:54 <@Andy_J> !q 00:54 < _Digital> ironic... 00:54 <@efneTI86> 1355: linux users are like the emo kids in highschool | most dont know why they want to be different [Added: Ox40 at 2008/09/03 19:37] 00:54 <@Andy_J> !q 00:54 <@efneTI86> 453: IT TAKES INPUT!!!! | <_Digital> I think that is where he orgasms | Hunterkll> Pretty much [Added: _Digital at 2006/01/24 22:12] 00:54 <@Andy_J> !q 00:54 <@efneTI86> 674: <+Michael_V> DarkAuron: Where can I find this game? | GBA game at least, PS2 too I think | it's called The Bible Game | <+Michael_V> I have no GBA | well you can always pirate the GBA version | <+Michael_V> I wouldn't pirate a bible game [Added: Andy_J at 2006/08/29 18:15] 00:55 < sir_lewk> hahaha 00:55 <+kirsk> L 00:55 <+kirsk> O 00:55 <+kirsk> L 00:55 < _Digital> Andy_J, I'd like to point out you usually get ticked off when we !q all the time. 00:55 < _Digital> !q 00:55 <@efneTI86> 1181: How long would a six volt battery last on a calc? | ] Forever as long as it's off. | How many hours if you left it on? | 0.1, because it would APD after six minutes. [Added: chronomex at 2008/01/05 12:20] 00:56 <@Andy_J> I only did 3. 00:56 < i_c-Y> !q 00:56 <@efneTI86> 321: [18:52] cherry blueberry apple orange graph and choco mint [Added: froody at 2005/11/16 16:48] 00:56 < i_c-Y> wha? 00:56 < i_c-Y> lame. 00:56 < i_c-Y> _Auron_ is unfunny. 00:56 < sir_lewk> lmao @ 1181 00:56 < i_c-Y> !q 00:56 <@efneTI86> 1424: she smoked a camel, that's how we met. i have a huge dong too. [Added: ports- at 2008/11/05 19:02] 00:56 < _Digital> my thoughts exactly i_c-Y 00:56 < i_c-Y> !qsay 1181 00:56 <@efneTI86> 1181: How long would a six volt battery last on a calc? | ] Forever as long as it's off. | How many hours if you left it on? | 0.1, because it would APD after six minutes. [Added chronomex at 2008/01/05 12:20] 00:56 < i_c-Y> oh. 00:56 < i_c-Y> it scrolled off my buffer 00:57 <@Andy_J> graph vs. grape maybe? 00:57 <@Andy_J> even then it's still unfunny 00:57 * _Digital slaps i_c-Y with a trout 00:57 < sir_lewk> I was gonna eat that trout :( 00:58 < Nikky> hey Andy_J, stop being a macfag 00:58 < Nikky> sincerely, everyone else 00:58 < _Digital> what is wrong with it now? is it contaminated? 00:58 < _Digital> @ sir_lewk 00:58 < Nikky> ReDeEm: Well, you're being shit-ripped off then. 00:58 < sir_lewk> all bruised up 00:59 < sir_lewk> you can't tenderize a trout like that 00:59 < _Digital> I only did it once 00:59 < _Digital> I'm sure it is fine 00:59 < sir_lewk> ok 00:59 < _Digital> or just give it a few days to heal . I never said it was dead 00:59 < sir_lewk> then I will eat it 01:01 < sir_lewk> http://video.google.com/videosearch?hl=en&q=sharona&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wv# 01:02 < _Digital> audio quality == hideous 01:02 < sir_lewk> yeah, that happens 01:03 < Nikky> 3 days until Obama starts sucking. 01:03 < sir_lewk> I'm using my ipod headphones right now though so that's the least of my worries 01:03 < sir_lewk> Nikky: no u 01:03 < Nikky> haha, ipod phones? 01:03 < Nikky> those are like the worst ever 01:03 < sir_lewk> yeah, I need to buy some nice ones for school 01:03 < Nikky> I lost all respect for you. 01:03 < _Digital> sir_lewk, I'd leave him alone. He's either grumpy or PMS-ing again 01:03 < sir_lewk> they are really horribly terrible, my other ones died the other week 01:04 < _Digital> !qfind bleeding vagina 01:04 <@efneTI86> No matches 01:04 < _Digital> ... 01:04 < sir_lewk> a shame 01:04 < _Digital> !qfind bleeding 01:04 <@efneTI86> 1477:_Digital: * _Digital notes that it is probably that time of month for Nikky right now | Yes, I'm bleeding out my vagina. | brb tampon 01:04 <@efneTI86> (All of 1 match) 01:04 < sir_lewk> haha 01:04 < _Digital> !qsay 1337 01:04 <@efneTI86> 1337: What is the symbol for marriage? | <_Digital> sex | Like, give me an image link. | Recursive: I'd get banned. :P [Added Ox40 at 2008/08/22 13:34] 01:06 -!- likeWOAH [~Icy@pool-96-242-204-66.nwrknj.east.verizon.net] has joined #tcpa 01:06 < _Digital> !seen Recursive 01:06 <@efneTI86> I found 4 matches to your query (sorted): ReDeEm |ReDeEm| Recursive everyone. ReDeEm (~Kk@adsl-75-44-62-38.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) was last seen joining #tcpa 20 hours, 43 minutes ago. ReDeEm is still on #tcpa. 01:06 < _Digital> wb i_c-Y 01:06 -!- millinao [~millinao@c-24-20-163-2.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 01:06 < _Digital> hey millinao 01:06 < millinao> hi _Digital 01:06 < likeWOAH> thankies 01:07 < _Digital> nick change? 01:07 < likeWOAH> no 01:07 < Damakaru> i_c-Y == likeWOAH 01:07 < _Digital> no, I mean, change the nick 01:07 < likeWOAH> my dumbass sister must have unplugged the router or something 01:08 < _Digital> ah 01:08 < likeWOAH> i_c-Y is still on 01:08 < _Digital> waiting for the ghost to die 01:08 -!- i_c-Y [~Icy@pool-96-242-204-66.nwrknj.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:08 -!- likeWOAH is now known as i_c-Y 01:09 <+kirsk> those thin ties are really for girls arent they 01:10 <@chronomex> yuuup 01:11 < _Digital> If I have a network that has 2 switches and a router where one switch plugs into the touter and the other switch into the first, the DHCP server would have to be on the routers level in order to let the whole network function properly yes? 01:11 < _Digital> thin ties? 01:13 <+kirsk> http://cn1.kaboodle.com/hi/img/2/0/0/f7/e/AAAAAvlCw-oAAAAAAPfkvQ.jpg 01:14 <+kirsk> the first switch and anything connected to it will get the same ip i think 01:28 < Tari> switches generally don't get ip addresses 01:29 <+kirsk> well anything conencted wil lget the same thing 01:29 < Tari> no, that's why it's a switch 01:29 < Tari> it intelligently routes packets 01:29 < Tari> I don't really know how the switches would deal with that 01:29 <+kirsk> routers intelligently route packets, switches dont 01:30 <+kirsk> oh wait im thinking hub never mind 01:31 < _Digital> yes you are 01:31 < _Digital> hubs just send the packets everywhere 01:31 <+kirsk> yeah 01:33 <@Andy_J> even with a hub, not everything would get the same IP 01:33 <@Andy_J> the hub just sends every packet to every device 01:34 <@Andy_J> every device still has its own MAC, which is what lets them get different iPs 01:34 <+kirsk> hmm 01:34 <+kirsk> so the packets sent have a target mac? 01:34 < _Digital> each switch will be treated as a different layer right Andy_J? 01:34 <@Andy_J> layer? 01:34 < _Digital> network layer 01:34 <@Andy_J> kirsk: yes, at the ethernet layer 01:34 <@Andy_J> _Digital: that isn't how network layers work 01:35 < _Digital> okay, here is why I ask 01:35 < _Digital> I had the DHCP server on the switch that plugged into everythign else 01:36 <@Andy_J> If it has a DHCP server it is by definition not a switch. 01:36 < _Digital> I used another router as the DHCP server 01:36 < _Digital> since the one in the existing firmware suck donkey nuts 01:36 < _Digital> everything on that switch worked fine 01:37 < _Digital> but the devices on the switch that it was plugged into, didn't get internet 01:37 <@Andy_J> Whatever is running your DHCP server *must* be the thing plugged into the modem, or it won't work right. 01:37 < _Digital> it was 01:38 <@Andy_J> Unless you really want to dick around with the settings the DHCP server uses, and I doubt very many commercial things will let you change the settings that would need changed. 01:38 <@Andy_J> make sure any other routers that are plugged in have the routing bit turned off completely 01:38 <+kirsk> true, otherwise they have to see wan port as internet and redistribute which is a pain 01:38 <@Andy_J> apple's shit makes that very easy as it'll do so automatically if it gets a private IP on the "wan" port 01:39 < _Digital> well one firmware routes fine, and distributes IP's liek shit and the other distributes IPs fine but cannot route 01:39 <@Andy_J> Then you have a predicament. 01:39 <@Andy_J> And should just get an Apple one :p 01:39 < _Digital> firmware is the only issue cause the hardware is the same between these two 01:40 <+kirsk> is the other distributing IPs in a new range or from the first dhcp server's range? 01:40 <@Andy_J> There isn't any way to do it with two different devices without doing double-NAT 01:40 <@Andy_J> which you don't want to do 01:40 <@Andy_J> ... which would defeat the point of both devices anyway 01:40 <+kirsk> works for me though 01:40 <@Andy_J> so I guess tehre isn't any way to do what you want to do 01:40 -!- millinao [~millinao@c-24-20-163-2.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:40 < _Digital> well why can I not have the one routing state that the DHCP server is the other and the other keep the gateway of the one that routes? 01:41 <+kirsk> the one routing should be the one with dhcp, anything should have routing disabled shouldn't it? 01:42 <+kirsk> *else 01:42 < _Digital> well the one that is "routing" has the main switch of the house plugged into it. It is a gigabit house netowrk plugged into a 10/100 router to get to the internet 01:43 -!- leofox [leofox@leofox.student.utwente.nl] has quit [] 01:45 <+kirsk> can the one gettign the internet do dhcp and route? 01:46 < _Digital> it can route, and halfway DHCP. Halfway meaning it cannot do static IPs. I haven't the slightest idea why 01:46 < _Digital> but with 10 to 14 devices active at any given time, I prefer static 01:46 < Damakaru> Is it possible to set so that middle-click on a folder opens it in a new window, a la GNOME/Xfce/KDE? 01:47 < _Digital> should be 01:47 <+kirsk> OS? 01:48 < _Digital> given his DEs, Linux 01:48 < Damakaru> Windows Vista. 01:48 < _Digital> say 3.1 next time 01:48 < Damakaru> I'm using Arch under Virtualbox, now. 01:48 <+kirsk> lulz 01:49 < Damakaru> I suppose, next time I buy a computer, it have better hardware for Linux. :P 01:49 < _Digital> what hardware do you have that isn't supported? 01:49 < _Digital> the mouse? 01:50 < Damakaru> Graphics/Audio is not that great. 01:50 < Damakaru> Drivers are fail. 01:51 -!- Netham45 [~Netham45@c-71-229-253-50.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 01:51 <@efneTI92> [Netham45] Narf! 01:51 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Netham45] by SnowCrash 01:52 <+Netham45> Yay piracy! 01:52 < Damakaru> What did you pirate this time> 01:52 <+Netham45> about 150GB of xbox games 01:53 -!- mode/#tcpa [+o Nikky] by efneTI86 01:53 -!- Netham50 was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI92 [Banned] 01:53 -!- Netham45 was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI89 [Banned] 01:53 -!- mode/#tcpa [+b *!*Netham45@*.hsd1.co.comcast.net] by Nikky 01:53 <+kirsk> lolbox 01:53 -!- mode/#tcpa [-o Nikky] by Nikky 01:53 * Nikky whistles 01:53 < _Digital> I was about to ask about that... 01:53 < _Digital> thanks Nikky 01:53 < Damakaru> *Hears police sirens going in Netham45's direction.* 01:54 * _Digital listens in to the SWAT radio traffic 01:54 < Nikky> Wouldn't that be encrypted? 01:54 <+kirsk> yeah 01:54 <+kirsk> even regular police radio is encrypted 01:54 <@Andy_J> no, it isn't 01:54 <+kirsk> it is here 01:54 < Nikky> Regular police chatter isn't encrypted. 01:54 < _Digital> I don't want to live where you do 01:55 <@Andy_J> ^ 01:55 < Nikky> Tatical nets might be. 01:55 < Damakaru> Apparently not, because one time, I played the radio over the radio, and they were like, "What the fuck?" 01:55 < Tari> hehe 01:55 < _Digital> they can triangulate that... 01:55 <+kirsk> regular police radios are encrypted here. 01:55 <+kirsk> they recently upgraded it too 01:57 < Damakaru> _Digital: Just tape the radio down the the transmitter, and tape that down to an remote-controlled car and have fun. :P 01:57 < Damakaru> * to a 01:57 < Damakaru> Oh, wait. 01:57 < Damakaru> Fuck that. :P 01:59 < _Digital> Andy_J, what would it take to concatenate multiple WAN connections and use them as one? 01:59 <+kirsk> network bridging? 01:59 < Damakaru> The same thing that it'd take to use my LAN and wireless connection as one? 01:59 <+kirsk> yeah you need network brdiging with fallback or something 02:00 < _Digital> well there are about 6 different FiOS connections that we can pick up around my house and they only use WEP... 02:01 < Tari> I'd set up a system with a bunch of wlan cards and interface teaming/bonding 02:01 < _Digital> I'm really tempted to do that 02:01 < Tari> I've thought about doing that here 02:01 < _Digital> imagine, if they all were running 10/2 or faster 02:02 < _Digital> fastest being 15/15 02:02 < _Digital> that has got to be illegal though 02:02 < Tari> keep some thermite handy, then 02:03 < _Digital> each of the routers runs BusyBox 02:03 < _Digital> if they are all stock, I know the password 02:03 <+kirsk> what would be illegal? 02:03 < Nikky> hacking WEP and using the connection 02:03 < Tari> as long as you're not incredibly obvious about exploiting their networks, no one would notice 02:04 < _Digital> using my own internet and 6 other's at teh same time 02:04 < Nikky> that's very very illegal 02:04 <+kirsk> oh hehe 02:04 < Damakaru> "Nothing's illegal until you get caught." 02:04 <+kirsk> i thought you ment 6 bridges to your own wlan 02:04 < _Digital> or stupid like Netham 02:04 < _Digital> krisk, that would be the end result 02:04 < _Digital> using them all as one connection 02:05 < _Digital> if they all are on the top teir connection, I'd have ~100Mbps internet 02:05 < _Digital> up and down 02:05 <+kirsk> nice 02:06 < Damakaru> I'd be able to download ten megabytes a second if I could use both my Wireless and LAN. 02:06 < _Digital> now if I hacked them in such a way, I think I could bridge other nearby connections 02:06 < _Digital> it would be wild if I set it up as such 02:07 < _Digital> but with a bit of work, everyone could share everyone elses connection 02:07 < _Digital> clustering all that would be cool 02:07 < Damakaru> What happens if one of the people with the shared connection is downloading things they shouldn't be downlading? 02:07 < Tari> then they get awesome deniability 02:07 < Damakaru> Then who gets in trouble? 02:07 < _Digital> Verizon doesn't monitor 02:08 < Tari> heck 02:08 < Tari> you could make the case that it just looked like that 02:08 < Tari> but it was a coincidence of packets being sent from that particular station 02:08 < _Digital> I did 1 TB of torrenting (upload) in less than a month without a hitch 02:08 -!- mode/#tcpa [-b *!*Netham45@*.hsd1.co.comcast.net] by efneTI80 02:08 <+kirsk> does software bridging make this possible or do you need hardware? 02:09 < _Digital> I think you need hardware 02:09 < _Digital> there would have to be at least one node I'd assume 02:09 <+kirsk> yeah i think so too : ( 02:09 < _Digital> my house is in a good spot for that 02:09 <+kirsk> well i mean bridging can be done with software settings in xp for example but it isnt fallback/seamless when i set it up 02:10 < _Digital> well, everything is static in geographical location 02:10 <+kirsk> if one fails for example it still has to reconnect and it doesnt turn both into one big connection, just a single driver point or something 02:10 < _Digital> meh, fun to think about 02:11 < _Digital> I'd need people like Andy_J and i_c-Y to pull it off. I think i_c-Y would do it, but I'm pretty sure Andy_J wouldn't. Too whitehat. Not like that is a bad thing 02:13 <+kirsk> probably 02:13 <+kirsk> hmm for some reason my comp starts with iexplore.exe taking 40+ mb, i dont know why it starts ie at all let alone why its taking so much ram 02:14 < _Digital> IE is apart of explorer 02:14 <+kirsk> but it shouldnt start on boot 02:14 < _Digital> just type in a url in an explorer window and it'll load it properly 02:14 <+kirsk> yeah but im not doing that 02:14 < _Digital> kirsk, it's windows 02:14 < Damakaru> (Damn it, why did QWERTY have to become the standard keymap of the US?) 02:15 < _Digital> and why kirsk instead of krisk? Or am i dyslexic? 02:15 <+kirsk> im thinking spyware but all iexpore.exe look clean and no scanners are finding anything 02:15 <+kirsk> ALT nick, "krisk" is taken by some lousy bot 02:15 < Tari> the difficulty is bonding all the connections 02:15 < Tari> you can use wds to make one giant network 02:15 < _Digital> WDS? 02:16 < Damakaru> kirsk: Take it! Take it! 02:16 < Damakaru> It's free! 02:16 < _Digital> no it isn't 02:16 < _Digital> whois krisk 02:16 < Tari> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_Distribution_System 02:16 < Damakaru> "No such nick or channel." 02:17 <+kirsk> krisk Nickname is already in use. 02:17 < _Digital> [krisk] (x@digital.kingd0m.us): client id 25856 2 bg 02:17 < _Digital> that is not me >.> 02:17 <+kirsk> hehe 02:17 <+kirsk> nah its some lousy bot service 02:18 < Tari> maybe you could tunnel something to a vlan on each router from a master bonding server, though 02:18 <+kirsk> what's today's catch-all antimalware/virus scanner? 02:18 < _Digital> hmm, wonder if I went around offering to set that up around the block if it would be received nicely 02:18 < Tari> set up a machine as a gateway 02:18 < Damakaru> kirsk: krisk_ ? 02:19 < Tari> give that a number of virtual interfaces, each connected to a router through a vlan 02:19 < Tari> and enslave the virtual interfaces 02:19 <+kirsk> eh i like kirsk as an alt 02:19 < Tari> and set up the routers to retransmit traffic on that vlan to their wan 02:19 <+kirsk> it was an actually occuring typo from someone 02:19 < Tari> the problem with that is throughput 02:19 -!- ReDeEm [~Kk@adsl-75-44-62-38.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 02:20 < Damakaru> *Grumbles something containing "damn fucking Rap music."* 02:20 < _Digital> Tari, would it work so pool everyone's resources? Mind you if it did, we're then limited by Wireless bandwidth come to think of it 02:20 < _Digital> if a person is on the fringe, they would get a max of 22Mbps 02:20 < Tari> right 02:20 < _Digital> so who ever is in the center will get the best connection 02:21 < Tari> but in that idea, everything gets retransmitted several times 02:21 < _Digital> or at least whoever has access to the most nodes 02:21 < Tari> client sends a packet: 02:21 < _Digital> that would cause massive latency 02:21 < Tari> ->nearest AP->main node, through a vlan->another ap->internet 02:22 < Tari> on 802.11g, your maximum throughput for any node is 22 mb/s 02:22 < _Digital> that would work if everythign ran off of one WAN connection, but instead everyone would be runnign off of everyone's WANA connection 02:22 < Tari> that's the thing 02:22 < _Digital> WAN* 02:22 < Tari> you need to have something that bonds all the WANs 02:23 < _Digital> and that is WDS 02:23 < _Digital> ? 02:23 <+kirsk> should there be a "WINDOWS\system32\dllcache\iexplore.exe" ??? 02:23 < Tari> no 02:23 < Tari> WDS just links all the routers 02:23 < Tari> so they act like one giant network 02:24 < _Digital> so WDS bonds all APs to make it so everyone can access everyone 02:24 < _Digital> but how do you then concatenate all the WANs? 02:24 < i_c-Y> wds has some issues with throughput among other things. 02:24 < _Digital> I think Verizon would get pissed if we did do that though 02:25 < _Digital> I mean reaaaaaaallllllllllly pissed 02:25 < Tari> that's the problem, in short 02:25 < _Digital> yeah, but we'll deal with that if we get to it 02:25 < Tari> you need some master hub which tunnels to a vlan on each router 02:25 < Tari> and it bonds those internally 02:26 < Tari> which is what kills your throughput if it's all wireless 02:26 < _Digital> so we'd be limited to 22Mbps 02:27 < Tari> yeah 02:27 < Tari> ish 02:27 < _Digital> so it isn't possible to wirelessly bond everyone to se everyone, but it is possible to bond several to one and be faster 02:27 < _Digital> yes? 02:27 < Tari> umm 02:28 < _Digital> oh wait 02:28 < _Digital> nvm 02:28 < _Digital> no, 02:28 < _Digital> I wouldn't be connecting through one 80.11/g connection 02:28 <+kirsk> hmm maybe i can just replace all iexplore.exe with firefox.exe renamed to ie 02:28 < i_c-Y> im boreeeeeeeddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd 02:28 < _Digital> i_c-Y, help use figure this out 02:29 < Tari> in any situation bonding multiple base stations (internet connections), you're limited to half of your max wireless throughput for practical throughput 02:29 < Tari> from any node 02:29 < _Digital> we'd have to have multiple wireless points per WAN in order to utilize the bandwidth 02:29 < TD-Linux> that looks so weird out of context 02:29 < i_c-Y> plus im trying to hide from the guests cause i dont want to deal wtih em 02:29 < _Digital> Tari, why, because of overhead or because the wireless connection is half duplex? 02:30 -!- Tyler2 [~nexon@residence-204-172.henday.ualberta.ca] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:30 < _Digital> you're hosting a party, i_c-Y? 02:30 < i_c-Y> no, there's just guests. and i dont want to deal with people. 02:30 < TD-Linux> i_c-Y is a failhost 02:30 < Tari> half duplex 02:31 < Tari> basically 02:31 < i_c-Y> more like i dont want to deal with stupid coments, etc. 02:31 < _Digital> what if you utilize MIMO? 02:31 <+kirsk> people/guests can be lame 02:31 < _Digital> ^ example 02:32 < Damakaru> Friggin' Windows upda-- 02:32 -!- Damakaru [~Winterven@216.117.122.201] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:32 < Tari> it's not really because it's half-duplex 02:32 < Tari> but it boils down to that 02:32 < _Digital> what about MIMO? 02:32 < Tari> the hub needs to talk to two stations for one transfer 02:32 < Tari> I don't think MIMO would help 02:33 -!- TehStorm is now known as TheStorm 02:34 * _Digital asks i_c-Y to reign in on this think tank 02:34 < Tari> if you could get every station on 802.11n... :D 02:36 -!- tifreak [DanielThor@1Cust3214.an4.ind20.da.uu.net] has joined #tcpa 02:37 -!- Damakaru [~Winterven@216.117.122.201] has joined #tcpa 02:37 * i_c-Y reads up 02:38 < _Digital> or install a few of these in my house and wire the whole block: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833122156 02:38 <+kirsk> D:\WINDOWS\ie7\iexplore.exe version: 6.0... ~_~ 02:38 < i_c-Y> is <_Digital> Andy_J, what would it take to concatenate multiple WAN connections and use them as one? the question at hand still? 02:38 < _Digital> well, the question expanded 02:38 < Damakaru> Does that ReadyBoost thing work with any old USB 2.0-speed Flash drive (and do I have to worry about it killing the drive off with rewrites)? 02:39 < i_c-Y> how much ram do you have? 02:39 <+kirsk> jup and jup 02:39 < Damakaru> Four gigs. 02:39 < _Digital> what would it take to network everyone who's connected with FIOS so they could share everyone elses connection 02:39 <+kirsk> though the advantage is slim and depends on the drive 02:39 < i_c-Y> Damakaru: then why woudl you use it? 02:40 <+kirsk> its only nice for computers with really really really slow harddrives/swap, like shitty laptops with very little ram 02:40 < Damakaru> *Shrugs.* It said it would make things faster, so I was like, cool. 02:40 < _Digital> but, yes i_c-Y, if you can answer the first, I'd like to know that too 02:43 < i_c-Y> _Digital: bleh. things to look at are 802.3ad ( link aggregation ) 02:44 -!- Merthsoft [~Shaun@140.141.26.108] has joined #tcpa 02:44 < _Digital> that would be for the wide scale project it seems 02:44 < Tari> yeah, that's the idea 02:44 < i_c-Y> aggregate the fios links , then run out wireless and wired connections with signal repeaters if necessary. 02:44 < i_c-Y> or buy hardware load balancers 02:44 < Tari> so yeah 02:44 < _Digital> what about if I setup an AP for each of accessible wireless routers around my house 02:44 < i_c-Y> too 02:44 < Tari> same problem 02:45 < _Digital> how could I concatenate those to act as one? 02:45 < Tari> you need fast connections to whatever actually distributes the load 02:45 < i_c-Y> load distribution is a messy buisness. 02:45 < Tari> otherwise there's little benefit 02:45 -!- Alonso_Mc [Alonso_McL@122.94.230.159] has joined #tcpa 02:45 < i_c-Y> fast, reliable, and a good degree of control 02:45 < Alonso_Mc> Is this ticalc.org? 02:45 < Nikky> close enough 02:45 < i_c-Y> this is #tcpa, a calculator channel. 02:46 < _Digital> despite the topic 02:46 < _Digital> we just liek acronyms 02:46 < sir_lewk> suuure 02:46 < _Digital> and poor typing skilz 02:46 < sir_lewk> anarchist 02:46 < sir_lewk> you know you are 02:46 < i_c-Y> _Digital: is the question boost your connection or boost everyones? 02:46 < _Digital> galactacist or whatever you call yourself 02:46 < Alonso_Mc> Is there an emulator for TI-84? 02:46 < sir_lewk> yes! 02:46 < i_c-Y> there is no such calculator as the ti-84 02:46 < _Digital> two questions, you answered one. So teh remaining is how to boost mine 02:46 < sir_lewk> ti-84+ or ti-84+SE 02:46 < sir_lewk> stfu i_c-Y 02:47 < Alonso_Mc> ti84 plus 02:47 < i_c-Y> diaf sir_lewk 02:47 < sir_lewk> go melt 02:47 < i_c-Y> boost yours - buy a bunch of wireless bridges. 02:47 < _Digital> don't scare the new guy you two 02:47 < Tari> depends on what you want to emulate 02:47 < sir_lewk> Alonso_Mc: check out http://lpg.ticalc.org/prj_tilem/ 02:47 < Alonso_Mc> I cannot understand your words. My english is very poor. 02:47 < i_c-Y> steal people's wifi and bond it to your own connection with 802.3ad or run them to a hardware load balancer. gains will probably be trivial unless if you can get good wired connections 02:48 < i_c-Y> in which case, same process 02:48 -!- Alonso_Mc [Alonso_McL@122.94.230.159] has quit [Client Quit] 02:48 < i_c-Y> still 802.3ad is what you want 02:48 -!- mechagros [~Administr@pool-70-110-80-85.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #tcpa 02:48 < Tari> that was fun 02:48 < sir_lewk> who chased Alonso away? 02:48 < sir_lewk> bastardos 02:49 < _Digital> i_c-Y, hardwired backbone of cat6 with gigabit switches 02:49 < _Digital> sir_lewk, you were one of the reaons 02:49 -!- Alonso_Mc [Alonso_McL@122.94.230.159] has joined #tcpa 02:49 < _Digital> welcome back 02:49 < sir_lewk> Alonso_Mc "TilEm is a TI Calculator Emulator that uses Gtk. It supports: All Z80 TI calculators (73, 82, 83, 83+, 83+ SE, 84+, 84+ SE, 85, and 86) except the TI-81, and all known ROM/OS versions" 02:49 < _Digital> ignore sir_lewk 02:49 < sir_lewk> http://lpg.ticalc.org/prj_tilem/ 02:49 < sir_lewk> no, don't ignore me. I'm actually helping 02:49 -!- TheStorm [~TheStorm@CPE-24-167-219-81.wi.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 335 seconds] 02:49 < Alonso_Mc> What does Gtk mean?....Well, TI calculators are really complicated gadgets 02:49 < _Digital> this time... 02:50 < _Digital> GtK mean GIMP Took Kit 02:50 < sir_lewk> GTK is the stuff that handles the graphically stuff for the emulator 02:50 < sir_lewk> you use windows right? 02:51 < Alonso_Mc> of course>Nobody use Linux or UNIX in CHina 02:51 < i_c-Y> _Digital: if you have wired connections, run them to a load balancer 02:51 <+kirsk> i thought it was gnome toolkit 02:51 < Tari> nope, kirsk 02:52 < i_c-Y> or bond them (802.3ad) - also read the linux advanced routing and traffic control howto 02:52 < Tari> it's silly like that 02:52 < sir_lewk> Alonso_Mc: alright, well tiemu should work for you 02:52 < Damakaru> Now... how do I "pimp this bitch out?" 02:52 < sir_lewk> I haven't personally used it on windows though 02:53 < Tari> uh, I think you mean TiLem 02:53 < sir_lewk> err, yea 02:53 < Tari> TiEmu is 68k only 02:53 < Alonso_Mc> How to get a rom image? 02:53 < sir_lewk> I think there are a few other windows ti-emulators too, some wabbitemu thing or whatever 02:53 < i_c-Y> _Digital: nano.txt is an old one but you might find it conseputally usefl 02:53 < Tari> wabbit is good 02:53 < sir_lewk> if you have a calc and a cable you can transfer it over 02:53 < Tari> as is pti 02:53 < sir_lewk> otherwise you'll have to google for one 02:54 < Tari> I don't think wabbit or pti do any 84+-only hardware, though 02:54 -!- mtgrss111 [~Administr@pool-71-248-153-140.dllstx.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 556 seconds] 02:54 < sir_lewk> when I was doing z80 stuff VTI was still the popular one 02:54 < _Digital> i_c-Y, I need to setup iptables and a few other things before I get to that. I love you mr guru 02:54 < BrandonW> Surely Wabbitemu does the 84+/SE clock hardware. 02:54 -!- TheStorm [~TheStorm@CPE-24-167-219-81.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #tcpa 02:55 < sir_lewk> hey there BrandonW 02:55 < _Digital> VTI fell into a state of not being updated and became abandoned 02:55 < Alonso_Mc> Well. When I send something for my TI-84 Plus to the PC. The screen will show "Disk full" in the end....Why does it happen 02:55 < i_c-Y> _Digital: alternatively you can shell out roughly 200 dollars for a router which will do load balancing + bonding for you 02:55 < i_c-Y> (rv82 from linksys for ex.) 02:55 < BrandonW> Probably because you're using the direct USB cable and TI Connect, which is junk. 02:55 -!- Goplat [~goplat@76-191-156-24.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has joined #tcpa 02:55 < BrandonW> Any form of I/O link (plugs into the I/O port) is better. 02:56 < Nikky> Agreed. 02:56 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Goplat] by efneTI86 02:56 < Alonso_Mc> USB and TI-connect is junk . Then what is good? 02:56 < TheStorm> I wish I had a Serial Cable :( 02:56 < Alonso_Mc> I don;t have either 02:56 < Alonso_Mc> Is USB cable a disadvantage? 02:56 < i_c-Y> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1533875&CatId=198 for example, _Digital 02:56 < TheStorm> Well for you TI-Connect may be your best bet but you could try TILP II 02:57 < Damakaru> Aww. Not cool. I apparently have to have that Windowblinds bullcrap in order to change themes on Vista. :( 02:57 < BrandonW> How can you not have either? You just said "send something for my TI-84 Plus to the PC"...how else could you do it? 02:57 < i_c-Y> why would you want it, Damakaru ? 02:57 < i_c-Y> the vista theme is purdy 02:57 < Alonso_Mc> Does serial cable mean USB?... 02:57 < Damakaru> Yeah, it's alright. But there has to be something darker. 02:57 < Tari> Damakaru, grab VistaGlazz Beta 2 02:58 < sir_lewk> Alonso_Mc: no, the serial cables are an older type of cable, they don't make them anymore I think 02:58 < TheStorm> no Alonso_Mc 02:58 <+kirsk> isnt there a haxed uxtheme.dll for vista? 02:59 < sir_lewk> there is a serial<->I/O cable, a USB<->I/O cable, and a USB<->USB mini cable 02:59 <+kirsk> oh 02:59 <+kirsk> A patched uxtheme.dll gave you the freedom to use un-signed custom visual style in Windows XP but in Windows Vista you have to replace three dll files to use third party visual styles. 02:59 <+kirsk> Those three files are uxtheme.dll, shsvcs.dll and themeui.dll 02:59 < sir_lewk> you would have a USB<->USB mini 02:59 < Damakaru> (Gah, these people are fucking crazy. There's some dude running around the dorm, wielding brooms.) 02:59 < Tari> VistaGlazz can patch it for you 02:59 < _Digital> Damakaru, welcome to college 03:00 <+kirsk> kill him with a shovel 03:00 < Tari> but you need beta 2 for SP1 03:01 < i_c-Y> sp1 is final now, and hes on sp2 beta 03:01 < Alonso_Mc> I found that the user manual of TI-84 Plus is really junk. It tells actually nothing. I bought my TI-84 in September. I wanted to buy a CASIO at first, it had enormous manuals....But later I chose TI-84 because I can use this for SAT. Several months later I heard of things liek Omnicalc and MirageOS. And I found this gadget complicated.... 03:02 <+kirsk> lolvista 03:02 < Tari> oh cool, finally did release 1.1 03:02 <+kirsk> hey is xp updatable to 7 ? 03:02 < BrandonW> A TI calculator is as simple as it gets. 03:02 < BrandonW> Casio is garbage. 03:02 <+kirsk> like, so you dont loose all configurations and user/app settings and stuff 03:02 < TheStorm> Casio's fail 03:02 < BrandonW> No one should ever buy a Casio. 03:03 < BrandonW> Their calculator department is complete junk. 03:03 < Damakaru> kirsk: It should be, or many, many will be pissed, considering that Microsoft said it was okay to "skip Vista." 03:03 < BrandonW> I don't know what manuals they're packaging with the 84+ these days, but I highly suggest you get it from education.ti.com. 03:03 < Alonso_Mc> But only CASIO is available in my city. I bought TI-84 via web 03:03 <+kirsk> hmm what about the beta, Damakaru? 03:03 < BrandonW> Your city is not very smart. 03:03 < TheStorm> If you think the 84 is hard to use try useing a Casio some time, ick. 03:03 < Alonso_Mc> http://theplaz.com/wiki/index.php?title=How-to_Create_a_TI-83_Plus_ROM_Image#Cables 03:04 < Damakaru> An 84? Hard to use? *Cracks up.* 03:04 < Alonso_Mc> Maybe This page is useful. But I cannot download some softwares 03:04 < BrandonW> There's no real easy way to create an 84+/SE ROM image using a direct USB cable. What you CAN do is create one based on the OS upgrade file at education.ti.com. 03:04 <+kirsk> ì might actually consider 7 if upgrading is painless 03:04 < BrandonW> And you should download and use rom8x from ticalc.org to do that. 03:04 < Nikky> ticalc rules 03:04 < Damakaru> Or TiLP's built-in ROM extraction. 03:04 < BrandonW> I just said you can't do that. 03:05 < BrandonW> TiLP has no direct USB ROM dumper. 03:05 -!- mechagros [~Administr@pool-70-110-80-85.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 03:05 < Damakaru> Oops, I missed a word. 03:06 < BrandonW> No, everything you said is wrong. 03:06 < TheStorm> Hey theplaz removed my link to Wabbitemu 03:06 < Damakaru> No, I missed a word reading what you wrote, so I threw TiLP out there. :P 03:07 < TheStorm> I updated that page a while ago when I saw the fail vid they posted on youtube about it 03:07 < Alonso_Mc> I found GTK!!But which one should I choose?there are six 03:07 < Damakaru> (Yay, tiny fonts.) 03:07 <+kirsk> "To upgrade to Windows 7, the computer needs to be running Vista with Service Pack 1 (SP1) or later. Upgrading from Windows XP to any edition of Windows 7 is not supported;" 03:07 < BrandonW> I really would not bother with TiLP if you only have a direct USB cable. 03:07 <+kirsk> lawllll 03:08 < Damakaru> Alonso_Mc: http://sourceforge.net/projects/gtk-win/ 03:08 < Damakaru> Alonso_Mc: Er, rather: http://downloads.sourceforge.net/gtk-win/gtk2-runtime-2.14.7-2009-01-13-ash.exe?modtime=1231866571&big_mirror=0 03:09 < sir_lewk> tilem should pull down GTK for you shouldn't it? 03:09 < Alonso_Mc> thanks 03:09 < sir_lewk> kirsk: lame 03:09 < Damakaru> sir_lewk: Old version, though, I think, unless they updated it in the instalelr. 03:09 < Damakaru> * installer 03:09 <+kirsk> maybe theres a hacked version that does allow it 03:10 < sir_lewk> doesn't make it any less lame 03:10 <+kirsk> yes 03:11 < sir_lewk> I judge microsofts projects as microsoft releases them, not as hackers fix them >.> 03:11 <+kirsk> me too, this upgrade decision annoys me 03:11 < Alonso_Mc> Maybe we can write a new version of manual to replace to "formal" one. You are more talented than the guys of TI 03:12 < sir_lewk> does it mean that you can only do a live update or whatever from vista, or that you need vista before you can install win7 without wiping your HD entirely? 03:12 -!- Alonso_Mc [Alonso_McL@122.94.230.159] has quit [] 03:12 <+kirsk> win7 clean install will go onto anything, vista sp1 is required to do a "upgrade" install. anything else will give an error and say lolnobuyvista 03:13 <+kirsk> but im not goona wipe my hd for win7 or get vista 03:13 <+kirsk> i guess i can upgrade to vista, then sp1, then upgrade to win7 beta 03:13 < Tari> whenever I need to reinstall, I just note everything I have installed and use frequently 03:14 < Tari> then back up the settings and such for all of those 03:14 < Tari> it's pretty painless 03:14 <+kirsk> well i have all my apps on a seperate partition, but windows registry is a bitch 03:14 < _Digital> I copy everything to a fresh partition, zero-out, copy back 03:14 <+kirsk> so even if i just replace windows everything will be fucked up 03:14 < Tari> well yeah 03:14 < sir_lewk> purchasing vista just to upgrade to win7 sounds repulsive 03:14 < Tari> I reinstall everything 03:14 <+kirsk> lolpurchasing 03:15 < Tari> but back up the config for things I have customized nicely 03:15 < sir_lewk> I am opposed to pirating windows 03:15 < Tari> competent apps just store that in %APPDATA% 03:15 < _Digital> I'm not 03:15 <+kirsk> well im not goona pay for a beta 03:15 < Damakaru> kirsk / Tari: I tried it [VistaGlazz], but it says my system files are now what it was expecting, or something like that. 03:15 <+kirsk> yeah you should be able to let it replace them 03:16 < Damakaru> * are not 03:16 <+kirsk> hmm i can kill my swap partition and put win7 there leaving my winxp partition undamaged. theyre both 4gb 03:16 <+kirsk> waaaiiiit vista needs like 10000 gb doesnt it 03:16 < _Digital> 4GB isn't much for a whole install 03:16 < Damakaru> Yes. 03:16 < sir_lewk> yeah 03:16 <+kirsk> bah 03:16 < Damakaru> s:G:M: 03:17 < sir_lewk> vista needs ~10 TB 03:17 * _Digital finishes up season5 of 24 03:17 < Tari> lol24 03:17 <+kirsk> 4gb is more than plenty for xp + office 03:17 < sir_lewk> you need a RAID of tapedrives to install vista 03:17 < Tari> I'm only 3 episodes into season 1 03:17 <+kirsk> idk what vista has that fills up 10gb 03:17 < Damakaru> Space is cheap these days. Ten to twelve gigabytes is not that much. 03:17 < _Digital> hey, Tari, you know I'm recording HD broadcasts? 03:17 < Tari> kinda 03:17 <+kirsk> well i have the rest of my hds reserved for actually usefull things 03:18 < Tari> nothing much of interest to me, though 03:18 < _Digital> are there any shows you want me to add to my list? 03:18 < sir_lewk> kirsk: dozens of massive pictures of Balmer's cock 03:18 < Damakaru> If it is that much of a whore, then nLite it. 03:18 <+kirsk> not Job's? 03:18 < Tari> unless you're going to encode them for me 03:18 < _Digital> sir_lewk, through what? a microscope? 03:18 < sir_lewk> nope, you get that if you buy a mac 03:18 < sir_lewk> _Digital: electron microscope 03:18 <+kirsk> oh, i thought xp's gb was filled with balmer's and vista's filled with job's 03:19 < _Digital> Tari, into what? give me bitrate, codec, container, and resolution 03:19 < sir_lewk> nah, XP was actually filled with Gates in various "Goatse"eque poses 03:19 <+kirsk> i thought that was me 03:19 <+kirsk> oops, ME 03:19 < sir_lewk> orly? 03:19 < sir_lewk> hahahaha 03:20 < sir_lewk> no, ME is gates doing a tubgirl 03:20 < Tari> _Digital, at any rate, it's kinda pointless to me 03:20 < sir_lewk> pretty damn fucked up 03:20 < _Digital> suite yourself 03:20 < Tari> I can grab a scene release and get it downloaded just as fast 03:20 < Tari> since my connection sucks 03:21 < Damakaru> (9:19:39 PM) kirsk: See why capitalization is important? :P 03:21 < _Digital> and I'm west coast. Three hours later than anyone viewing them on the east 03:21 < Tari> 'bout the only current thing I watch is bsg 03:21 < Tari> and I'm 2.5 seasons behind 03:23 < sir_lewk> gah, my grandmother is DoSing the room by blaring some stupid local news station again 03:25 < tifreak> lol 03:25 < tifreak> That's what you get for replacing her oxygen with methane man.. 03:25 < tifreak> =p 03:25 < tifreak> j/k 03:25 < Damakaru> Even seniors can be "1337 |-| /-\ ><." 03:26 < _Digital> E-J, are you still awake? 03:26 < _Digital> !lastspoke E-J 03:26 <@efneTI86> E-J last uttered a word on #tcpa 4 hours, 58 minutes ago. 03:27 < Damakaru> *Eyebrow.* Some chicks are getting spanked -- literally -- in the room adjacent to me. 03:28 < Damakaru> ...With aforementioned brooms. 03:28 < _Digital> careful, anything that is different is technically alt 03:28 < Merthsoft> Damakaru: GO JOIN THE FUN 03:28 < _Digital> and kirsk is still around 03:29 < Merthsoft> _Digital: Don't say his name, it'll draw him near 03:29 < _Digital> next time I'll say k i r s k 03:29 < _Digital> hopefully that doesn't highlight 03:30 < Damakaru> And, whatever you do, do *not* say the the "G," "A," "M," or "R"-words. 03:30 < _Digital> so I found my 5800 as an openbox 03:30 < _Digital> what is R? 03:30 < _Digital> I know the others 03:30 < _Digital> r a v e? 03:30 < Damakaru> *Dings bell.* 03:30 < _Digital> http://www.timtechs.com/open_box_nokia_5800_unlocked_prd695.html 03:30 < _Digital> 10-4 03:30 < _Digital> phone stated brand new with used accessories 03:30 < _Digital> saves me 70 bucks 03:31 < _Digital> that is a good deal 03:31 < _Digital> very nice deal 03:31 <+kirsk> i have no highlights, all messages in this channel cause mirc to flash 03:31 < _Digital> but alas you are here 03:31 -!- Netham45 [~Netham45@c-71-229-253-50.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 03:31 <@efneTI92> [Netham45] Narf! 03:31 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Netham45] by efneTI89 03:33 < Tari> apparently I had a messload of wasted space on my laptop before I hosed my root fs 03:33 < Tari> I've got it all back up and running, with 5 GB free 03:33 < Tari> I had ~2 GB free before 03:34 < TheStorm> I think My dad's Dell Lappy is finnaly dieing 03:34 < TheStorm> finaly* 03:35 < Damakaru> s:ie:y: 03:35 < Damakaru> s:ly:lly: 03:35 < TheStorm> and dell only had downloads for Win 2000 for it :P 03:35 < TheStorm> Damakaru, w/e 03:36 < Damakaru> *Spelling check complete.* 03:36 < TheStorm> His poor Latitude C600 has just about had it 03:39 <+kirsk> Also, H- word 03:39 < Damakaru> Oh, right. Hip-- er... hap'nin. 03:40 < TheStorm> lol it has a ATI Rage 128 in it, damn this thing is old. 03:40 < Damakaru> Will the Vista awesomeness called "Aero" kill my battery? 03:41 < Damakaru> I forgot about that. 03:44 < Tari> not much 03:44 < Tari> you can disable it if you want 03:44 < i_c-Y> not much. its far less draining than compiz fusion even with basics on. 03:44 < TheStorm> Ok so the laptop screen jsut died :( 03:44 < TheStorm> that or the vid card did 03:45 < TheStorm> Its a nice and pretty white :( 03:47 <+kirsk> my laptops screen is pretty messed up. 640x480 max res, font is screwed up, artifacts, green/pink/blue lines, etc 03:47 -!- Netham46 [~Netham45@c-71-229-253-50.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 03:47 <@efneTI92> [Netham46] Narf! 03:47 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Netham46] by efneTI81 03:47 < Damakaru> How are you going to destroy it after it dies? Explosives? Microwave (donate it to the "Is it a Good Idea to Microwave This?" team)? Drop it from a tall building? 03:47 < TheStorm> Does a white screen sound like a dead screen or jsut a bad connection? 03:47 < Damakaru> BlendTec Blender? 03:47 < TheStorm> cuz an external monitor works fine 03:49 < TheStorm> well I was planning on taking it apart anyway... 03:49 -!- kirsk [~krisk@j239072.upc-j.chello.nl] has quit [User excited] 03:49 < i_c-Y> TheStorm: might be bad connection 03:50 < i_c-Y> just reseat the connectors 03:50 < TheStorm> Ok i'll give that a try in a sec. 03:51 < TheStorm> It was having color issues so that would make sence that its just the connectors, I just hope that the cable isn't damaged. 03:52 -!- Netham45 [~Netham45@c-71-229-253-50.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 372 seconds] 03:54 -!- Netham46 is now known as Netham45 03:58 < i_c-Y> order a replacement online 04:01 < _Digital> what I have vs what I'll be buying 04:01 < _Digital> http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=1649&idPhone2=2537 04:01 < TheStorm> well the laptop isn't worth much but yeah if the cables bad I'll look into it 04:02 < TheStorm> it has a bad fan also but the PIII doesn't get very hot 04:03 < i_c-Y> its not bad to keep on hand. i have one still (same model in fact) 04:05 < TheStorm> really, yeah my dad has gotten some good use out this thing 04:07 < TheStorm> Did your fan ever have issues 04:08 < i_c-Y> no. 04:09 < i_c-Y> either way thats also a trivial replacement. 04:11 < TheStorm> yeah the harder part will be finding the fan 04:11 < TheStorm> though I think I saw one on ebay 04:34 < i_c-Y> _Digital: who is your provider? 04:37 < Damakaru> "[Terabytten:] I'm gonna google up a product key and validate." Not a smart thing to say in Freenode Windows channel. :P 04:46 -!- rivereye [~Rivereye@c-24-11-113-194.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 04:46 <@efneTI92> [rivereye] Is it time to go fishing? 04:46 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v rivereye] by efneTI81, SnowCrash 04:51 < Damakaru> Aww, crap. 04:52 < Damakaru> I found the theme patches for Vista SP2, but it won't let me copy them into the "System32" folder, even as root. 04:53 -!- likeWOAH [~Icy@pool-96-242-204-66.nwrknj.east.verizon.net] has joined #tcpa 04:53 < TheStorm> You need to take ownership of the files 04:56 -!- i_c-Y [~Icy@pool-96-242-204-66.nwrknj.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:56 -!- likeWOAH is now known as i_c-Y 05:00 < Damakaru> How do I do that? 05:01 < Damakaru> Command line tells me there's no "chmod" command, so I guess that is not it. 05:02 < Damakaru> * "chown" 05:02 < Tari> takeown 05:03 < Tari> specifically: 05:03 < Tari> takeown /f file 05:03 < i_c-Y> boot into linux 05:03 < Tari> icacls file /grant user:f 05:03 < i_c-Y> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda 05:04 < Barrett> haha 05:04 < i_c-Y> if there was a problem yo i'll solve it 05:04 < Barrett> i_c-Y: you're mean. 05:04 < Damakaru> i_c-Y: I am way ahead of that step. :)_ 05:07 < TheStorm> Darn Reseating the connector didn't fix it :( 05:07 < TheStorm> I guess the LCD pannels dead then :( 05:08 < Barrett> sweet... I have a VM running a mysql server with replication of the main server's database 05:08 < Barrett> should make backups cleaner 05:09 < Damakaru> What's the Windows equivalent of a .bashrc to set aliases? I keep trying to type 'ls' into the command prompt. :P 05:10 < Damakaru> This is, like, freaky-weird after using Linux for so long. 05:11 < Barrett> do batch files in the path run like that? 05:11 < Barrett> if so, I'd just make a batch file 05:11 < i_c-Y> you could use cygwin 05:11 < i_c-Y> or install gnu coreutils for win32 05:11 < i_c-Y> or use powershell 05:11 -!- tifreak [DanielThor@1Cust3214.an4.ind20.da.uu.net] has quit [Quit: goodnight] 05:12 < i_c-Y> or you can use doskey 05:13 < i_c-Y> example: doskey ls=dir 05:13 < Barrett> yep, just make a batch file called "ls.bat" and put it in system32 05:14 < Barrett> and in it just the text "dir" 05:15 < Damakaru> Tari: "user: No mapping between account names and security IDs was done." 05:19 < i_c-Y> use doskey , Damakaru 05:28 < Damakaru> Tried this: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080227201846AAQMejp -- did not work. :( 05:29 < Barrett> Damakaru: right click on the program you want to run and run as administrator 05:29 < i_c-Y> for 35, linda hamilton looks pretty good 05:30 < Damakaru> Barrett: I'm trying to move stuff into "System32." 05:31 < Barrett> what stuff? 05:31 < Barrett> I just moved a file there a few minutes ago doing what I just said 05:32 < Damakaru> Barrett: The theme patches so I don't have to stick with the eye-rapingly-bright Aero theme. 05:33 < i_c-Y> its not bright 05:33 < Damakaru> It is enough to make my eyes hurt after a while. 05:35 -!- millinao [~millinao@c-24-20-163-2.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 05:36 < Damakaru> And the weird part, is this is on a TFT (it is much, much, much, much worse on CRT). 05:37 < Damakaru> It should not hurt, but it still does. 05:38 < i_c-Y> turn down your brighhtness 05:38 < i_c-Y> i wish life were more like tv 05:38 < i_c-Y> sometimes 05:40 < Damakaru> That would be nice. Forget spending a ton of money on transition lenses. :P 05:42 -!- TD-Linux [~wheeeeeee@96-42-68-26.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:42 < i_c-Y> what's jennifer morrison's natural hair color? 05:45 < Merthsoft> green 05:50 -!- Spengo [~Spengo@64.251.240.231] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:51 < Damakaru> *Grumbles something about there needing to be a sex place nearby for people to go fuck there instead of keeping up all the commotion in the halls.* 05:52 -!- Spengo [~Spengo@64.251.240.231] has joined #tcpa 05:58 < Damakaru> I don't see why we need visitation, anyway. If people want to cross-visit, anyway, there's a huge park outside, and beyond that, a *huuuuuuuuuge* spawning ground -- er, grassy field. 05:59 <@Andy_J> ... 05:59 <@Andy_J> You can't play videogames outside. 05:59 <@Andy_J> Or do research on the internets (that's a legitmiate reason) 05:59 <@Andy_J> if they're really disturbing you that much, go yell at your RA 06:04 < BrandonW> Just not here, because no one's allowed to complain about anything here. 06:05 <@Andy_J> It isn't a legitimate complaint. 06:06 < Damakaru> s: legitimate:bout computers, calculators, and other technologies, or Goth chicks: 06:07 < Damakaru> *Facepalm.* 06:08 < BrandonW> Nothing's a legitimate complaint. 06:08 < Damakaru> Oh, crap, why am I complaining when I have the loudest sound system in the dorm? :P 06:08 <@Andy_J> Neat! 06:08 <@Andy_J> 1234567890 happens on Friday the 13th. 06:08 < Damakaru> Oh, shit. 06:09 < millinao> woah 06:09 < Damakaru> Everyone panic! :P 06:09 < millinao> mind <------- blown 06:19 < Damakaru> Hm, I should leave it blasting like this, all night long. 06:20 < Damakaru> The hall will be ready to KMA the next day, but the fucker next to me will know how I feel when he leaves his shit blasting all night... on the same fucking song. 06:22 < Damakaru> *Bitching is now complete.* 06:36 < _Digital> say it ain't so! 06:37 < _Digital> Andy_J, I think you're mored bored than i_c-Y 06:38 < i_c-Y> i just watched terminator 2 - im not bored 06:39 < _Digital> not anymore anyhow 06:39 * _Digital goes off to start season 6 of 24 06:40 < _Digital> w00t! 1530 start time for work 06:40 < _Digital> don't have to go to bed for a good 3 hours 06:42 < _Digital> yeah, I know no one cares 06:44 <@chronomex> cool, _Digital 06:44 < BrandonW> No, but that shouldn't stop you. 06:44 < BrandonW> It doesn't stop anyone else either. 06:44 <@chronomex> I was about to say 06:46 < sir_lewk> in 20-30 years, the web will be a thing of the past 06:46 < sir_lewk> 50-100 years, the internet will no longer exist 06:48 <@chronomex> good riddance 06:48 < sir_lewk> mmhm 06:48 < sir_lewk> space travel will make the internet impractical. speed of light and stuff 06:50 -!- Netham45 [~Netham45@c-71-229-253-50.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 06:50 < sir_lewk> it'll probaby be at least several hundred years before something of similar scale as the internet is ever created again 06:50 -!- Goplat [~goplat@76-191-156-24.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has quit [Time left until the Apocalypse: 29yrs 1wk 20hrs 23mins 17secs] 06:56 -!- Netham45 [~Netham45@c-71-229-253-50.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 06:56 <@efneTI92> [Netham45] Narf! 06:57 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Netham45] by SnowCrash 06:57 < Damakaru> *Goes off to think about some tracker music to write. 06:58 < sir_lewk> the question I suppose, is do we lament this? 06:59 -!- i_c-Y [~Icy@pool-96-242-204-66.nwrknj.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:15 < Nikky> Andy_J: nice aim message 07:15 < Nikky> amusing that you're calling GNU date user wusses when um, you use OS X 07:20 < Damakaru> Ohhhhhhhhhh... 07:20 < Damakaru> ...snap! *Sprays Andy_J with fire extinguisher.* 07:21 < sir_lewk> what is wrong with GNU 'date'? 07:21 < sir_lewk> works just fine 07:37 -!- Alonso_Mc [Alonso_McL@122.88.32.238] has joined #tcpa 07:38 < Alonso_Mc> When I¡¡£ó£å£î£ä¡¡£Á£Ð£Ð¡¡£ö£á£ò£é£á£â£ì£å£ó¡¡£æ£ò£ï£í¡¡£Ô£É£­£¸£´¡¡£Ð£ì£õ£ó¡¡£ô£ï¡¡£í£ù¡¡£Ð£Ã£®¡¡£¢£Ä£é£ó£ë¡¡£é£ó¡¡£æ£õ£ì£ì£¢£é£ó¡¡£á£ì£÷£á£ù£ó¡¡£ä£é£ó£ð£ì£á£ù£å£ä£®£®£®£®£®£® 07:39 < bsparks> I need a script that saves the lines that hilight me 07:39 < bsparks> also, Alonso_Mc what the fuck? 07:40 < Alonso_Mc> When I send APP variables from TI-84 Plus to my PC."Disk is full" is always displayed.. 07:40 < bsparks> you can't send from your calc to your PC? you need a program on the PC to browse the calc and retrieve them 07:40 < Nikky> *from*? 07:40 < BrandonW> What says that, TI Connect? 07:40 < Alonso_Mc> I used TI Connect indeed 07:41 < BrandonW> Is TI Connect what displays "Disk is full"? 07:41 < Alonso_Mc> Yes of course 07:41 < BrandonW> I've never seen it do that. Where are you saving it to? 07:41 < BrandonW> Maybe you really are out of space. 07:41 < Alonso_Mc> Impossible. Several GBs remaining... 07:42 < Nikky> Windows probably would be running like shit if it had less than 5kb of space 07:42 < Nikky> Well, shittier than windows normally runs. 07:42 < BrandonW> Could've been saving it to a flash or floppy drive, Nikky. 07:42 < millinao> floppy? really? 07:42 < Nikky> maybe 07:42 < bsparks> I've done it 07:42 < Alonso_Mc> Floppy is out of date 07:42 < millinao> just save it to a data vinyl record 07:43 < BrandonW> Yes, but no one should make assumptions. 07:43 < BrandonW> Especially since no one has ever gotten "Disk is full" from TI Connect. 07:43 < bsparks> dude, data vinyl would be like... a bajillion GB 07:43 < Alonso_Mc> "Disk is full" always happens at the end of transfering 07:43 < millinao> not really 07:44 < bsparks> millinao, well, I am taking librities, I am assuming RCA's video disc 07:44 < BrandonW> I've seen TI Connect do some very strange things, but "Disk is full" when getting a Flash application from the calculator is not one of them. 07:44 < millinao> it's still analog data 07:45 < bsparks> millinao, true 07:45 < millinao> also, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:CRVDisc.jpg 07:45 < millinao> holy shit that things huge 07:45 < bsparks> wait 07:45 < bsparks> that is a laserdisc 07:45 < bsparks> RCA's was needle 07:45 < sir_lewk> vinyl could store as much data as you want it to really, you'd just need a *reeeeealy* precises reader 07:46 < millinao> yeah 07:46 < bsparks> granted, later they had a laser, that could read the vinyl that you needed a needle for 07:46 < bsparks> BUT 07:46 < bsparks> I digress 07:46 < sir_lewk> lazers suck 07:46 < sir_lewk> analog is the win 07:46 < millinao> the only bottleneck would be the recording and reading equipment 07:46 < sir_lewk> also, "Be Kind, Rewind" is a pretty good movie 07:47 < millinao> i thought it got like 0% 07:47 < millinao> on reviews 07:47 < sir_lewk> well I dunno 07:47 < sir_lewk> I just saw it on HBO, it was good 07:47 < BrandonW> Alonso_Mc, I'd be interested in seeing a screenshot of the error if you could. 07:48 < bsparks> ah, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitance_Electronic_Disc :D 07:49 < Alonso_Mc> How to upload images? I cannot use mIRC very well 07:50 < bsparks> Alonso_Mc, to something like photobucket, or imageshack, or googlepages, etc etc 07:50 < sir_lewk> millinao: it got 6.7/10 on imdb apparently 07:51 < sir_lewk> 68% on rotten tomatoes, that's not to bad 07:51 < millinao> oh 07:52 < millinao> well, sleep time 07:52 -!- millinao [~millinao@c-24-20-163-2.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:52 < BrandonW> Alonso_Mc, use a service like http://imageshack.us/ 07:53 < Alonso_Mc> http://hi.baidu.com/netking_1993/album/item/9368a339dbf1e7ed3b87cea8.html 07:54 < Milyardo> imagebin would be better 07:54 < Alonso_Mc> or http://hiphotos.baidu.com/netking_1993/pic/item/9368a339dbf1e7ed3b87cea8.jpeg 07:55 < bsparks> I've gotten that when transferring TO the calc FROM the comp 07:56 < BrandonW> What is \Temp\TIDeviceExplorer\? 07:56 < BrandonW> Where does that point to? 07:56 < BrandonW> What OS is this? 07:57 < Alonso_Mc> I draged my APPVar to the desktop. OS 2.43 07:57 < BrandonW> No, the OS on your computer. 07:57 < Alonso_Mc> WIndows XP 07:58 < BrandonW> \Temp\TIDeviceExplorer\ is not a valid Windows path. 07:58 < BrandonW> What drive letter is it? 07:58 < Alonso_Mc> C 07:59 < BrandonW> Explicitly save it to the root of that drive. 08:00 < Alonso_Mc> Just now I sent it to the root of drive D. The same problenm occured 08:00 < BrandonW> What is drive D? 08:01 < Alonso_Mc> I tried the root of drive C. failed 08:03 < BrandonW> What path does it show when you do that? 08:05 < Alonso_Mc> still \Temp\TIDevic............ 08:09 < Alonso_Mc> Succeed! I changed "Default Folders"...Thank you for your help 08:09 -!- Alonso_Mc [Alonso_McL@122.88.32.238] has left #tcpa [] 08:09 * _Auron_ blinks 08:11 -!- glk [glk@76.211.65.221] has quit [grahamkendall.net/ my url] 08:12 < sir_lewk> silly chinese people 08:14 < Damakaru> Do I have to turn UAC off to put stuff in system32? (Yes, I'm still Googling for that.) 08:23 < Damakaru> *Facepalm.* Fuck, I was doing it wrong. :/ 08:23 < bsparks> yay 08:25 -!- Barrett [~berto_cha@75-165-231-115.slkc.qwest.net] has quit [] 08:35 -!- Damakaru [~Winterven@216.117.122.201] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:38 -!- Alonso_Mc [Alonso_McL@122.88.32.238] has joined #tcpa 08:38 < Alonso_Mc> Can I run APPs on an emulator 08:38 < BrandonW> Yes. 08:38 < Alonso_Mc> How to? 08:39 < BrandonW> You can use the flash debugger, which is part of the 83+ SDK from education.ti.com. 08:40 < Alonso_Mc> But I use TI-84 Plus 08:40 -!- Damakaru [~Winterven@216.117.122.201] has joined #tcpa 08:40 < BrandonW> The 83+ is from the same series, and most applications work on everything from the 83+ to the 84+SE. 08:40 < BrandonW> The only ones that don't are ones that use special SE/84+ hardware. 08:41 < Alonso_Mc> Can the ROM image be used on the flash debugger 08:41 < BrandonW> No, it has its own, which is why I recommended it. 08:41 < BrandonW> Other emulators support the 84+/SE, like Wabbitemu or TilEm. 08:41 < BrandonW> Those take ROM images. 08:42 < Alonso_Mc> Well. Which cable should I use for the flash debugger 08:42 < BrandonW> Why would you need a cable for an emulator? 08:43 < Alonso_Mc> Oh.Oh.Oh... I see.... 08:43 -!- Alonso_Mc [Alonso_McL@122.88.32.238] has quit [] 08:43 < BrandonW> Silly Chinese people. 08:45 -!- Alonso_Mc [Alonso_McL@122.88.32.238] has joined #tcpa 08:45 < Alonso_Mc> Does TILEM support APPs? 08:45 < BrandonW> Yes. 08:45 < BrandonW> Everything supports applications except for Virtual TI. 08:46 < Alonso_Mc> Just copy the apps into the folder? 08:46 < BrandonW> You load them through some sort of menu in the emulator. 08:46 < BrandonW> The readme for each has more information. 08:46 -!- Alonso_Mc [Alonso_McL@122.88.32.238] has quit [Client Quit] 08:54 -!- Damakaru [~Winterven@216.117.122.201] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:14 <@_Auron_> happy pi 09:41 < BrandonW> It's not March 14th. 10:38 < nicolas> meh... gmail down ? 10:42 <@E-J> morning 10:44 < nicolas> morning 10:49 < Milyardo> 04:14 <@_Auron_> happy pi 10:49 < Milyardo> Happy pi+1 10:57 <@E-J> unhappy pi 11:02 < Milyardo> :( 12:22 <@E-J> hmmm, almost darwin awards people here in finland, it has been few days cold and they are thinking that ice is thick enough, so let's go walking 12:24 <@E-J> yesterday 4 people 4 different times were rescued after they thought that ice is strong enough 12:37 < Milyardo> o.o 13:29 -!- leofox [leofox@leofox.student.utwente.nl] has joined #tcpa 13:30 <@efneTI92> [leofox] All we do in hell is play DDR! 13:56 < tr1p1ea> i like pie 14:01 -!- Goplat [~goplat@76-191-156-24.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has joined #tcpa 14:01 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Goplat] by efneTI92 14:17 -!- HelDragon [~Nocebo@modemcable022.187-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:27 -!- TD-Linux [~wheeeeeee@96-42-68-26.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com] has joined #tcpa 14:27 -!- krisk [~krisk@j239072.upc-j.chello.nl] has joined #tcpa 14:28 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v krisk] by efneTI80, efneTI86 14:52 -!- smart_ [~smart@c-76-110-92-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 556 seconds] 14:53 -!- smart_ [~smart@c-76-110-92-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 14:54 -!- TD-Linux [~wheeeeeee@96-42-68-26.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:55 -!- muerbetei [~jan@83-221-84-30.dynamic.primacom.net] has joined #tcpa 15:03 -!- leofox [leofox@leofox.student.utwente.nl] has quit [] 15:14 -!- leofox [leofox@leofox.student.utwente.nl] has joined #tcpa 15:15 <@efneTI92> [leofox] All we do in hell is play DDR! 15:21 -!- TD-Linux [~wheeeeeee@96-42-68-26.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com] has joined #tcpa 15:25 < sir_lewk> walking on frozen lakes is cool 15:38 < sir_lewk> http://www.cs.drexel.edu/~jlg95/stuff/narrow-columns.png haha, it looks like a interferance pattern 15:39 <@Andy_J> ence 15:40 < sir_lewk> hmm? 15:44 -!- leofox [leofox@leofox.student.utwente.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:52 -!- leofox [leofox@leofox.student.utwente.nl] has joined #tcpa 15:52 <@efneTI92> [leofox] All we do in hell is play DDR! 16:01 <@E-J> sir_lewk: well, here in southern finland we have only frozen sea (and almost frozen river) 16:03 < sir_lewk> ah 16:03 <@E-J> 2006 was still nice cold winter and i walked 2-3 times to nearest tram stop across sea bay 16:03 <@E-J> 30 minutes walk 16:03 < sir_lewk> oh wow 16:03 < sir_lewk> that's pretty awesome 16:11 <@E-J> http://aski.hut.fi/~relamsa/kuvat/maisemia/ there are some pictures about trip (those 1-4 are took during one trip across bay) and other pictures are how it's when there is no ice and when there is ice 16:12 <@E-J> actually summer.jpg was took at december and winter on january 16:13 <@E-J> and walking pictures i took on feb 16:14 <@E-J> so 2 months and ice was thick enough to walk 16:15 < sir_lewk> that's so cool 16:15 <+krisk> we had the same thing with the lake here 16:15 < sir_lewk> when it gets 16:15 <@E-J> krisk: but there everyone use skates? 16:16 < sir_lewk> cold around here it's just boring 16:16 <+krisk> we walked across it at night last week 16:16 <+krisk> we use skates for fun 16:18 <@E-J> sir_lewk: yeah, it's cool when it gets, now here has been 2 days damn cold (-15C) and now it's once again -1 or so 16:18 <@E-J> today snowed a little so land looks little better 16:19 < sir_lewk> yeah 16:19 <@E-J> not so dark all those 17 ours when sun doesn't shine 16:19 < sir_lewk> it's just been cycling back and forth between being cold and raining around here 16:19 < sir_lewk> just makes it miserable 16:19 <+krisk> last week it was -10 to -20, now its +6 16:20 <@E-J> http://www.fmi.fi/weather/local.html?place=Espoo looks ok (and hopefully there isn't many days of +degrees) 16:20 <@E-J> krisk: what about snow? is it now slush? 16:22 <+krisk> we havent had any snow 16:22 <+krisk> just frost 16:22 <@E-J> ah that's then ok, because slush period is annoying 16:23 <+krisk> its ugly and dirty 16:31 -!- i_c-Y [~Icy@pool-96-242-204-66.nwrknj.east.verizon.net] has joined #tcpa 16:32 -!- j-b-r [~chatzilla@ip98-169-72-161.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #tcpa 16:38 -!- Merthsoft [~Shaun@140.141.26.108] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:39 < Tari> I need to play some l4d before tuesday 16:39 < Tari> haven't played since the update 16:45 < Grue`> I haven't played ever :( (don't own it) 16:47 -!- j-b-r_ [~chatzilla@ip98-169-72-161.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #tcpa 16:48 -!- j-b-r_ [~chatzilla@ip98-169-72-161.dc.dc.cox.net] has quit [Client Quit] 16:49 < sir_lewk> I want to hire a team of stenographers to follow me around all day and record everything 16:53 -!- j-b-r [~chatzilla@ip98-169-72-161.dc.dc.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 496 seconds] 17:13 <@E-J> http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/video/index.php?sub=specials&clip=3 17:17 <@E-J> that video shows that this scifi series some people here are so keen is really just bold and the beautiful in space 17:20 -!- ReDeEm [~Kk@adsl-75-44-62-38.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #tcpa 17:21 < leofox> saai 17:23 <+krisk> gaap 17:23 -!- Merthsoft [~Shaun@140.141.26.108] has joined #tcpa 17:24 < Merthsoft> seriously, what is this X days countdown in the topic for? 17:25 <@E-J> dunno 17:26 < Merthsoft> well who keeps changing it? 17:26 <@E-J> irclogs/EFNet/#tcpa.2009-01-16.log:[23:55:04] !t Welcome to TCPA | http://tcpa.calcg.org | http://www.junemann.nl/maxcoderz/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=2736 | >9000 days 17:26 <@E-J> irclogs/EFNet/#tcpa.2009-01-17.log:[10:13:14] !t Welcome to TCPA | Transhuman Coalition for Practical Anarchy | http://www.junemann.nl/maxcoderz/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=2736 | 3 days 17:26 < Merthsoft> sir_lewk! 17:27 <@E-J> hmm on january, netham 3 times, tyler, you and sir_lewk once 17:27 <@E-J> so i'd say it's netham's thing 17:27 < Merthsoft> i changed it as a joke 17:36 < sir_lewk> I changed it once, dunno who started it 17:36 < sir_lewk> it's a obama countdown because we are all such big obama-tards here 17:41 < Nikky> I hate Obama. 17:42 -!- Netham45 [~Netham45@c-71-229-253-50.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:42 < Nikky> He's going to take away our guns. 17:42 -!- Netham45 [~Netham45@c-71-229-253-50.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 17:42 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Netham45] by SnowCrash 17:48 < Nikky> Hi Netham45 :) 17:51 <@E-J> Nikky: how many guns you have? 17:52 < sir_lewk> Nikky is like his own army 17:52 < sir_lewk> he has dozens of full auto handguns lying around for kids to play with 17:59 <@E-J> my brother just moved some stuff from his old flat to new, including gun cabinet, his girlfriend was very happy to have 20 kg of ammo + other junk to their flat 18:00 <@E-J> my brother is liutenant in army and he has licenses to all his guns 18:01 < Nikky> E-J: Well, I don't actually own any. 18:01 < Nikky> I don't think anyone in my family does either. 18:02 < sir_lewk> my dad has a shotgun without ammo in his closet. that's it I think for me 18:03 -!- ReDeEm [~Kk@adsl-75-44-62-38.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 493 seconds] 18:04 <@E-J> i think that army brother has most, police brother has maybe one gun, police father has one too and i and my mother we both have none 18:04 < sir_lewk> silly europeans. all gun nuts ;P 18:05 <@Andy_J> We don't need guns. 18:05 -!- Dauron [~DarkAuron@ppp-70-249-156-112.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #tcpa 18:05 <@efneTI92> [Dauron] We called it Sin. 18:05 -!- mode/#tcpa [+o Dauron] by efneTI86 18:05 < sir_lewk> around where I grew up a lot of people had hunting rifles and stuff, maybe a handgun in a few houses 18:05 < sir_lewk> in philly all the thugs have handguns. thank god they're banned in the city >.< 18:06 -!- Barrett [~berto_cha@75-165-231-115.slkc.qwest.net] has joined #tcpa 18:06 < sir_lewk> Barrett: you have any guns? 18:07 <@Andy_J> Did you get in one little fight and your mom got scared? 18:07 < sir_lewk> yuppers ^_^ 18:07 -!- Slayer__ [~dickinson@c-75-73-124-15.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 18:07 <@E-J> sir_lewk: well, here normal people don't have guns (unlike there were are people like Spengo), only police, military, those who need guns at sport, hunters and gun colectors have them 18:08 -!- millinao [~millinao@c-71-193-155-217.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 18:08 <@E-J> guards are not allowed to have guns 18:08 < sir_lewk> yeah, security guards around here rarely have guns, most security companies don't allow it, or at least provide them 18:08 < sir_lewk> *don't provide 18:09 < Barrett> sir_lewk: if you're talking about my biceps, then yes, i do. 18:09 < sir_lewk> sexy 18:09 <@E-J> oc is allowed and nightstick 18:09 -!- _Auron_ [~DarkAuron@ppp-70-249-156-112.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 504 seconds] 18:09 -!- Dauron is now known as _Auron_ 18:09 < sir_lewk> yeah 18:10 < sir_lewk> usually security guards around here just call the police I think 18:10 < Merthsoft> Q. You've been having trouble going to sleep. Are you probably a man or a woman? 18:10 < Merthsoft> A. Don Knotts: That's what's been keeping me awake. 18:10 < sir_lewk> rent-a-cop guys at malls and stuff just call the police 18:11 < sir_lewk> lol Merthsoft 18:11 < Nikky> Barrett is sexy. 18:11 < Merthsoft> Q.? It is considered in bad taste to discuss two subjects at nudist camps.? One is politics, what is the other? 18:11 < Merthsoft> A. Paul Lynde: Tape measures. 18:12 < sir_lewk> hahaha 18:12 < Nikky> WHORES 18:12 < Nikky> WHORES 18:12 < Nikky> WHORES 18:12 < sir_lewk> I agree. 18:13 < sir_lewk> lets discuss this over lunch, anyone up for pizza? 18:13 < Merthsoft> yeah 18:13 < sir_lewk> coo 18:13 < Merthsoft> Q. According to Ann Landers, what are two things you should never do in bed? 18:13 < Merthsoft> A. Paul Lynde: Point and laugh 18:13 < Merthsoft> and i'm done 18:18 < sir_lewk> http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/01/18/174207 valve is sexy 18:18 < sir_lewk> bbl 18:18 < i_c-Y> hi 18:27 < millinao> hi 18:33 <@E-J> hi 18:33 <@Andy_J> lo 18:35 <@E-J> hmmm, apparently one guy who started army last week shot himself with assault rifle today 18:39 < Barrett> E-J: on purpose suicide dead or accidental in the foot? 18:39 <@E-J> on purpose 18:40 <@E-J> in finnish army they give everyone gun at first day when they start but no bullets 18:40 -!- _Auron_ [~DarkAuron@ppp-70-249-156-112.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:40 <@E-J> and i don't think they have shooting excersises on first sunday 18:42 < Barrett> ouch. Never use gold bond the day after clipping your fingernails 18:43 < Barrett> and 10 points to whoever can figure out why I say that 18:43 < Merthsoft> whomever 18:44 < Barrett> Merthsoft: WRONG. 18:44 < Merthsoft> damn 18:44 < Barrett> whoever is part of the clause "whoever can figure out..." 18:44 -!- _Auron_ [~DarkAuron@ppp-70-244-168-42.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #tcpa 18:44 -!- mode/#tcpa [+o _Auron_] by efneTI86 18:44 < Merthsoft> "whomever can figure out" 18:44 < Barrett> no 18:44 <@E-J> http://yle.fi/uutiset/news/2009/01/fresh_military_conscripts_begin_service_474447.html 18:44 < Merthsoft> yes 18:44 < Barrett> whoever is a subject in this case, and the entire clause is the object. 18:45 <+krisk> i think you said it because you did it and noticed direct negative consequences 18:45 < Barrett> krisk: in order to win you have to be more specific. 18:46 < Merthsoft> damn you're right 18:46 < Merthsoft> fuck i hate this language 18:48 < Merthsoft> Barrett: does the goldbond burn the skin where your nails used to be? 18:48 < Barrett> you mean on the fingertips? no. 18:48 < Barrett> but to answer your question, yes 18:49 < Merthsoft> not the fingertips 18:49 < Barrett> unless you mean the nails that I cut off, in which case the answer is no 18:49 < Merthsoft> if your nails curved around to cover your fingertips, that's weird 18:49 < Barrett> doesn't burn anywhere on my fingers. 18:49 < Merthsoft> but it burns? 18:49 < Barrett> not playing 20 questions 18:49 < Merthsoft> on your penis? 18:50 < Barrett> you have to earn these 10 points 18:50 < Merthsoft> i assume you mean goldbond powder 18:50 < Merthsoft> though they have 123123894612 products 18:51 < Barrett> yes, goldbond powder. 18:51 < Barrett> in order to get the 10 points you need to give a detailed answer explaining why and everything 18:51 < Merthsoft> that's stupid 18:51 < Merthsoft> i hate you 18:51 < Barrett> you're on the right track 18:52 < Merthsoft> ok, so, you clipped your nails yesterday, and today you used goldbond. and somewhere it's burning 18:52 < Merthsoft> probably on your penis 18:53 < Barrett> still missing a very important connection 18:54 < Merthsoft> you clipped your fingernail becaues when fapping you cut your penis 18:54 < Merthsoft> and then you goldbonded your crotch to keep sweat down, and it burns? 18:55 < Barrett> uhh... no. 18:55 < Merthsoft> oh 18:55 < Merthsoft> well 18:55 < Barrett> I don't do that. 18:55 < Merthsoft> i have to go 18:55 < Merthsoft> so i'm done playing 18:55 < Merthsoft> bye 18:56 -!- millinao [~millinao@c-71-193-155-217.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:26 -!- _Digital [~DC@pool-71-165-124-42.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 19:32 -!- patz2009 [~patrick@c-69-247-152-128.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 19:33 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v patz2009] by efneTI85 19:34 -!- _Digital [~DC@pool-71-165-124-42.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has joined #tcpa 19:34 <+krisk> http://www.chickipedia.com hahaha 19:41 -!- PhillipA [~phillip@host-154-169-220-24.midco.net] has joined #tcpa 19:41 <@efneTI92> [PhillipA] Success is a journey, not a destination. So stop running. 19:41 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v PhillipA] by efneTI92 19:51 -!- ReDeEm [~Kk@adsl-75-44-62-38.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #tcpa 19:54 -!- |ReDeEm| [~Kk@adsl-75-44-62-38.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #tcpa 19:54 < |ReDeEm|> nevarmind 19:56 <+krisk> k 20:00 -!- ReDeEm [~Kk@adsl-75-44-62-38.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 490 seconds] 20:05 < i_c-Y> krisk: :o 20:10 < |ReDeEm|> hey! 20:11 < Barrett> anyone know if "BTREE" in mysql indexes is a binary tree, and if so, if it optimizes itself (AVL style) or does it index on the hash of the values as opposed to the actual values? 20:12 < Barrett> or none of the above, meaning it can get really slow if all values are inputted in sorted order 20:18 -!- _Digital [~DC@pool-71-165-124-42.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:18 -!- _Digital [~DC@pool-71-165-124-42.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has joined #tcpa 20:19 < _Digital> so my kernel just pissed itself and I haven't the slightest idea why 20:25 -!- TheStorm [~TheStorm@CPE-24-167-219-81.wi.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:26 <+krisk> I have a test tomorrow and I think I'll actually bother to go :o 20:28 <@Andy_J> It's probably a b* tree 20:28 <@Andy_J> if they meant binary tree they'd probably say as much, or at least bintree 20:28 <@Andy_J> I'm sure the mysql docs know the asnwer 20:29 < BrandonW> Yes, I'm sure they do, too. 20:29 < BrandonW> Most questions he asks, if you just ignore him and let him look it up in the proper documentation, he'll figure it out. 20:29 < BrandonW> Instead of enabling him. 20:30 <+krisk> "The Windows Installer Service could not be accessed. This can occur if you are running Windows in safe mode, or if the Windows Installer is not correctly installed. Contact your support personnel for assistance." 20:30 <+krisk> O_o 20:39 -!- |ReDeEm| [~Kk@adsl-75-44-62-38.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:45 < i_c-Y> Barrett: think about what you said 20:46 < i_c-Y> you want to lower the depth of the tree 20:46 < i_c-Y> so certianly a binary tree is dumb. 20:46 < i_c-Y> B+ tree is whats in mysql 20:47 < Barrett> right, I just wanted to make sure the mysql people weren't dumb 20:48 < Barrett> a binary tree isn't all that bad if it's done right... 20:48 < i_c-Y> it is for a database. 20:48 < i_c-Y> B+ is better than B* for a database as well given that search is cheaper 20:49 < i_c-Y> certainly though, its some sort of B tree variant 20:50 < i_c-Y> a red black tree would have been a better guess anyway if you were guessing in a binary tree sense considering that it can be isomorphic to a B-tree such as a 2-3 or 2-3-4 tree. 20:51 < i_c-Y> but B-tree's breadth is what roxorz it. 20:52 < Barrett> lame, they didn't go over these in my data structures class 20:52 < Barrett> they did red black, but none of these b ones 20:52 < Barrett> unless they did it after I stopped going to class.. 20:53 < i_c-Y> heh. i took the data structures classes in the wrong order. 20:54 < i_c-Y> the stuff on turing machines and stuff was interesting, but otherwise it didnt really go into any super cool data structures. 20:54 < i_c-Y> so id rather them just have taught turing machines. 20:54 < Barrett> we had turing machines in a different class... 20:54 < Barrett> that class for us had nothing to do with data structures, just with computational theory 20:55 < Barrett> state machines, etc... 20:55 < i_c-Y> yeah well, we're cooler than you 20:56 < Barrett> nah, they kept different subjects in different classes, the way they should be :) 20:56 < Barrett> well, I guess there was a bit of data structures in that theory class... tapes... :) 20:59 -!- millinao [~millinao@c-71-193-155-217.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 20:59 < millinao> nikky you're an emo 21:02 -!- glk [GrahamKend@adsl-70-234-143-177.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net] has joined #tcpa 21:07 < BrandonW> Are you sure he's not an emu? 21:07 < _Digital> probably both... 21:08 < BrandonW> I always make some sort of lamb joke when people shorten "emulator" to "emu." 21:10 < millinao> that's why you're not fun at parties 21:11 < _Digital> at least parties primarily composed of regular people 21:14 < i_c-Y> but who goes to those? 21:14 < i_c-Y> atleast not without a good ole' bottle of roofies 21:14 < _Digital> we're in one right now technically 21:14 < i_c-Y> riight. 21:14 < i_c-Y> you have glk - ti-89 propogandist 21:14 < _Digital> never said the party would be good 21:15 < i_c-Y> BrandonW - ti calculator sage 21:15 < glk> http://grahamkendall.net/ 21:15 < i_c-Y> Netham45 - the world's biggest idiot 21:15 < glk> math ti-89 data 21:15 < _Digital> right on cue! 21:15 < i_c-Y> Barrett - he's a mormon 21:15 < i_c-Y> and Spengo - he just needs more ritalin. 21:15 < i_c-Y> how can this party be normal?!??!?! 21:16 < _Digital> what about you, myself, krisk, millinao, Andy_J, and Nikky 21:17 < i_c-Y> remove krisk from that, and i guess thats a normal party 21:19 < _Digital> why does krisk have to be phonetically similar to crisco? 21:20 < i_c-Y> because his name is chris 21:24 < Spengo> wat 21:24 < Spengo> all I need is LOVE 21:24 < Spengo> ♥ 21:25 < i_c-Y> you need SPADELOVE 21:25 <+krisk> hmm, do you think a company like LG CNS would hire someone part-time? 21:25 < Spengo> I can't believe you remember that i_c-Y 21:25 < i_c-Y> haha. 21:25 < i_c-Y> !qfind spadelove 21:25 <@efneTI86> 989:tari: I love you i_c-Y | i dont want any of your chinese whore love. | don't cause 'corrosion' between us baby, not after so long :( 21:25 <@efneTI86> (All of 1 match) 21:26 < Spengo> the awesome SPADELOVE batteries 21:26 -!- millinao [~millinao@c-71-193-155-217.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 21:27 < TD-Linux> the chicken kind? 21:27 <+krisk> no thoughts on companies' willingness to hire people part-ttime? 21:28 < TD-Linux> mcdonald's is 21:28 < TD-Linux> 3 days? 21:29 < TD-Linux> oh 21:29 <+krisk> dont they outsource their it? 21:31 <@_Auron_>  _ 21:31 <@_Auron_> |♥| 21:31 <@_Auron_> Companion Cube loves you! 21:31 < sir_lewk> nobody is going to hire you for 3 days 21:32 < sir_lewk> just chillax for 3 days 21:32 <+krisk> ? 21:32 < sir_lewk> "< TD-Linux> 3 days?" ? 21:32 < sir_lewk> I dunno 21:33 < _Digital> Obama 21:33 < _Digital> should be 2 days atm 21:33 <+krisk> I want to always chillax but need just enough money to do as much chillaxing as possible 21:33 < i_c-Y> arent you in college? 21:33 <+krisk> yes 21:34 < _Digital> you're in college!? 21:34 <+krisk> and i want to do another education after this one 21:34 <+krisk> so fulltime isnt an option 21:34 < _Digital> wtf? I swore you were a fraking hormonal teenager 21:34 < _Digital> like 13 to 15 age range 21:34 < sir_lewk> nah, he's like 20 something 21:34 < _Digital> that is damn scarey 21:35 <+krisk> 21, mentally 15 21:35 < sir_lewk> wooo 21:35 <+krisk> also setting firefox as firefox's mail client is fun when clicking a mailto link 21:35 < _Digital> yeah, I'm 22 mentally about 28+ depending on topic 21:35 < i_c-Y> heh. im 19. 21:36 <+krisk> 12 when the topic is me 21:36 < i_c-Y> 13 when its girls. 21:36 < sir_lewk> I'm 19, mentally 35 21:36 < sir_lewk> beat that 21:36 < sir_lewk> biatches 21:36 < _Digital> i_c-Y == krisks_maturity*2 21:36 <+krisk> halp new tab opening recursionness 21:36 < _Digital> yeah, somehow I doubt that sir_lewk 21:37 < sir_lewk> whatevs buttercup 21:37 < _Digital> I'll magically turn 23 in about 3 weeks 21:38 < sir_lewk> I'm totally turning 20 2 or so months 21:38 -!- TD-Linux [~wheeeeeee@96-42-68-26.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:38 <@_Auron_> I turn 21 8 1/2 months from now 21:38 < _Digital> i_c-Y, being 19, I see how you have had the time to acquire the knowledge you possess 21:39 < i_c-Y> im turning 20 in approximately 11 months 21:39 < sir_lewk> if my mother does not stop telling everyone in the room about her vacation and jamming 97 adjectives in each sentance, I am going to scream 21:39 < _Digital> _Auron_, waiting to legally drink? despite the fact I think you drink already? 21:39 < _Digital> sir_lewk, headphones++ 21:39 < sir_lewk> yeah, all I have is my ipod headphones though 21:39 <@_Auron_> only drank a few times and that was with my friends that want to drink every weekend 21:40 < sir_lewk> she's way too loud too 21:40 < _Digital> I'm going to head off early to work early, cya all later 21:40 <+krisk> you can do whatever you do when drinking without drinking 21:40 <+krisk> probably better 21:40 < _Digital> no one listens to you 21:40 <@_Auron_> lol. 21:40 < sir_lewk> not socializing >.> 21:40 < sir_lewk> least not me 21:40 <@_Auron_> sir_lewk++ 21:40 < sir_lewk> but whatevs 21:41 <+krisk> "can" 21:41 < sir_lewk> I'm way to introverted, a drink or two helps that a bit 21:41 < sir_lewk> krisk: I "can" become an astronaught some day 21:41 * _Digital cannot stand the taste of smell of alcohol 21:41 <@_Auron_> _Digital: I barely can 21:41 <@_Auron_> I only tolerate it enough because I know it makes me drunk 21:42 <+krisk> you know you dont drink it pure right? 21:42 < sir_lewk> meh, the worst vodka is no worse than mouthwash 21:42 <@_Auron_> krisk: you do if you're taking shots of vodka :P 21:42 -!- TD-Linux [~wheeeeeee@96-42-68-26.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com] has joined #tcpa 21:42 <+krisk> not even then, though its close 21:42 < _Digital> sir_lewk, krisk, http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/posters/65b7/ 21:42 < sir_lewk> vodka++ "getting drunk"-- 21:42 <+krisk> idk what american beer is like though 21:42 < sir_lewk> water 21:42 < i_c-Y> large variance. 21:42 <+krisk> yeah i bet 21:43 <+krisk> theres always girls drinks though 21:43 < sir_lewk> shitty water. I don't bother with it except for casually with a meal occasionally 21:43 <+krisk> bacardi n stuff 21:43 <+krisk> wat? water and milk are top tier 21:44 < sir_lewk> I dislike milk intensely 21:44 <+krisk> really? why's that? 21:44 < Nikky> I dislike fedora intensely 21:44 * _Digital heads to work 21:44 < sir_lewk> horrible horrible taste 21:44 < sir_lewk> I can't stand it 21:44 < Nikky> Has everyone done their anti-kofler work on the ticalc article today? 21:44 < Nikky> He's being even nastier than normal. 21:44 <+krisk> hmm wierd and with chocalte powder added? 21:45 < sir_lewk> doesn't matter whats in it 21:45 < sir_lewk> the texture gets me too 21:45 <+krisk> well, werd 21:46 <+krisk> the water based chocolate milk is an abomination though 21:47 <@_Auron_> I didn't know milk had a 'texture' 21:48 <+krisk> just wait a couple of days and it does have an obvious texture 21:50 < _Digital> wow, rosetta is actually using RAM! Instead of not even 1GB used, it has about 3.8GB used 21:50 * _Digital hugs his 8GB of RAM 21:50 -!- Merthsoft [~Shaun@140.141.26.108] has quit [Quit: ☮♥♫] 21:54 < sir_lewk> lawdy 21:54 < sir_lewk> do you ever actually use that? 21:54 < sir_lewk> my 3GB is total overkill, I rarely use more than 600 MB 21:54 < sir_lewk> 1 GB is me working with a lot of stuff 21:55 < _Digital> I easily use my 2GB on my laptop. 3.8 of the 8 is being used in the server right now. When I'm transcoding HD video, yeah it gets used. I'f I go Wine + Photoshop, I'll be using it then too 21:56 * _Digital really actually is walking out the door right now 21:56 < _Digital> http://atlas.selfip.net/Info 21:56 < sir_lewk> ah 21:56 < sir_lewk> most of what I do involves a few xterms and vim 21:57 < sir_lewk> hmm, that webpage thingy is kinda neat 22:06 < i_c-Y> i have 4 GB on my laptop 22:06 < i_c-Y> ive used it all before. 22:06 < i_c-Y> lol intel 22:07 < sir_lewk> unless something goes terribly wrong with computing in the future, I really don't see myself ever needing more RAM in my work machine than I already have 22:09 < sir_lewk> terribly wrong == *everything* switches to java or something 22:11 <+krisk> ever? 22:11 < leofox> I never used more than 400M on my old comp 22:11 < leofox> but now i have crappy sound drivers that dont work 22:11 <+krisk> all it takes is you ever doing any video encoding or graphics editing 22:12 < sir_lewk> meh, rarely do I do that. certainly not as "work" 22:12 < sir_lewk> aaaarg 22:12 <+krisk> fair enough 22:12 < sir_lewk> holy fucking hell my mother gives me headaches 22:12 <@_Auron_> scream then 22:12 < sir_lewk> proximity to my mother directly determines my level of agony 22:12 <@_Auron_> be like "AHHHHHH BITCH SHUT UP" 22:12 <+krisk> this is why we have earphones 22:12 <+krisk> turn on di.fm progressive channel and relaxchill 22:13 <+krisk> theres a nice mix on now 22:13 < leofox> Eurobeat is so wrong 22:13 <@_Auron_> I would have done that to my step-father if it weren't for the fact that his response would be taking out walls of the house 22:13 <+krisk> happy hardcore is too 22:13 < leofox> 5 CDs full of shitty remixes 22:13 < leofox> including dragostea din tei, crazy frog does axel f and a LOT of anime remixes 22:13 <+krisk> the chillout progressive and psytrance channels are nice thoug 22:14 < leofox> didnt you find a eurobeat radio once? 22:14 < leofox> I remembered you sending me something like that 22:14 < leofox> and in the end they only played hyper techno 22:14 < leofox> like the difference isnt totally obvious 22:14 <+krisk> hmm maybe, only di.fm eurodance channel comes to mind though 22:15 < leofox> meh euro dance is gay 22:15 <+krisk> well yeah 22:16 < leofox> I dont think these stations have more eurobeat than me anyway 22:16 <+krisk> doubt it 22:16 < leofox> I dont even have all of it 22:16 < leofox> I know some people who do 22:16 <+krisk> all of it? how is that possible? 22:17 < leofox> there's one label that does all of it 22:17 < leofox> you have the Super Eurobeat series 22:17 < leofox> then there's the love Para ^2 to which im listening now 22:17 <+krisk> aha 22:17 < leofox> some extra stuff like Eurobeat Disney, Euro Christmas 22:18 < leofox> and some special singles with extended versions 22:18 < leofox> overall there isn't that much 22:18 <+krisk> I wish I had all psytrance and its variants but thats impossible 22:18 < leofox> Eurobeat is an extremely narrow genre 22:18 < leofox> even now I think everything sounds the same 22:18 <+krisk> ah 22:18 < sir_lewk> I like post-rock but I think it makes me depressed 22:18 <+krisk> (progessive electro not prog rock) 22:19 <+krisk> i really want the goa/chillout stuff they play at the psywear market stand on waterlooplein in amsterdam 22:20 < leofox> I really want to do shrooms again :P 22:20 < leofox> they are so AWEAAASOME 22:20 < i_c-Y> np: Blood Stain Child - Peacemaker 22:20 < leofox> lol 22:20 < sir_lewk> someone needs to tell my mother that phones are not tubes through which you need to yell 22:20 <+krisk> hmm i wanna do em too 22:20 <@_Auron_> lol 22:20 < leofox> krisk wanna meet up for tripping 22:20 < sir_lewk> like, I've told her this a million times. she insists on yelling into them 22:20 <@_Auron_> haah 22:20 <+krisk> hmm lulz 22:21 <@_Auron_> lewk she probably has bad hearing 22:21 <@_Auron_> so she's compensating for what she can't hear 22:21 < leofox> i always yell into phones too 22:21 < sir_lewk> possibly 22:21 < leofox> but my hearing is pretty good 22:21 < sir_lewk> actually yeah, she yells in conversation too 22:21 < sir_lewk> truthfully, my whole family does 22:22 <+krisk> tripping with strangers would probably be a bit freaky 22:22 <@_Auron_> so hang out beforehand 22:22 <@_Auron_> duh 22:22 < sir_lewk> are they cool alt-chick strangers, or just random dudes? 22:22 <+krisk> they are leofox 22:22 < sir_lewk> oh 22:23 < sir_lewk> leofox seems cool 22:23 < leofox> yeh and my friends 22:23 < leofox> maybe 22:23 < leofox> hoewel i doubt i can get friends to come here to do shrooms 22:23 < sir_lewk> I'll come 22:23 < leofox> we have this big hard cock, um i mean test tuesday 22:23 <+krisk> i think i'd probably not be very chilled 22:23 < sir_lewk> lemme jump on my boat 22:24 <@_Auron_> lol 22:24 <+krisk> but tripping at lost in amsterdam + psy rave might be a cool idea 22:24 < leofox> krisk ok we gonna trip 2 weeks from now when sirlew is here 22:24 < sir_lewk> I need a good fucking vacation 22:24 < sir_lewk> with a lot of booze 22:24 < leofox> +1 22:24 <+krisk> cool 22:25 < sir_lewk> somewhere far enough away from my family that it costs too much for them to call me 22:25 <+krisk> haha 22:25 <@_Auron_> I want weed again :| 22:25 <@_Auron_> it's been over two months 22:25 < sir_lewk> yeah, that too 22:25 < sir_lewk> booze, weed, somethin 22:25 <+krisk> hippie/alt chicks 22:26 < leofox> _Auron_ haha I win I had weed one month ago 22:26 < sir_lewk> I need to loosen up, if I keep this up I'm going to snap 22:26 < leofox> but i dont like weed much 22:26 <+krisk> weed seems a bit pointless to me 22:26 < leofox> I dont smoke so I have bake these cakes 22:26 <+krisk> +1 22:26 < leofox> the last one was so disgusting 22:27 < leofox> and i had a laugh kick for like 5 seconds and then i just wanted to sleep 22:27 < sir_lewk> bad weed trip? 22:27 < leofox> no the cake had a bad taste 22:27 < sir_lewk> oh 22:27 < leofox> the tripping was ok but just not that intense 22:27 < sir_lewk> is a bad weed trip even possible? like a bad acid trip (though obviously not as bad)? 22:27 <+krisk> I actually don't want to do anything that just gives laugh kicks and drowsiness 22:27 < leofox> dunno 22:27 <@_Auron_> sir_lewk: no 22:27 <@_Auron_> weed relaxes you 22:27 < sir_lewk> yeha 22:27 <@_Auron_> you don't 'trip' 22:28 <+krisk> yeah you can panic a bit on weed 22:28 <@_Auron_> well 22:28 <+krisk> like, paranoia 22:28 <@_Auron_> out of paranoia 22:28 < sir_lewk> ah, true 22:28 <@_Auron_> from doing something illegal 22:28 < leofox> wel weed isnt reallly mood-changing 22:28 <@_Auron_> and being self-concious 22:28 <+krisk> or selfesteem issues might come forwards, things like that 22:28 <@_Auron_> but that's more of a mental thing than the drug 22:28 < sir_lewk> well my brain is fucked up a nice bit right now 22:28 <+krisk> you have the same risk with alcohol and other stuff really but in a different way 22:29 < leofox> ja 22:29 < leofox> lemme get booze 22:29 <@_Auron_> alcohol you can overdose and throw up and damage your live 22:29 <@_Auron_> liver* 22:29 < sir_lewk> I've been on the maximum dose 22:29 <@_Auron_> weed you just.. uh.. fall asleep :P 22:29 <+krisk> hehe 22:30 <@_Auron_> or zone out into a happy place, or both 22:30 <+krisk> the laugh kicks and lazyness are kind of offputting to me 22:30 < sir_lewk> I've been on the maximum dose of painkilers for the past week 22:30 < leofox> i like the laughs 22:30 < sir_lewk> probably not a good thing 22:30 < leofox> but i dont like how you only get so sleepy 22:31 <+krisk> i hsould try it though, see what the laugh kicks are like 22:31 <@_Auron_> weed doesn't give me the laughs, salvia does 22:31 <+krisk> wouldnt be so bad to get them with weed but it's be a bit of a waste with shrooms or mdma 22:31 <@_Auron_> and salvia is some messed up stuff 22:31 <@_Auron_> I don't see how it's legal 22:31 < leofox> true auron 22:31 < leofox> my friend wanted to do salvia next 22:31 <+krisk> i'd rather be experiencing far more awesome stuff than laughing with shrooms 22:31 < leofox> because hes in this lets try drugs phase 22:32 < leofox> but i told him he'd better not 22:32 <+krisk> dmt might be a better idea than salvia 22:32 < leofox> dmt? 22:32 < leofox> we going to try n2o 22:32 <+krisk> its what the shamans in the rainforest do 22:32 < leofox> and new shrooms 22:33 < leofox> probably like hawaiian or mexican 22:33 <+krisk> n2o? carefull with that 22:33 < leofox> i heard it doesnt have much risk 22:33 <@_Auron_> ehh salvia is low-end compared to some of that, lol 22:33 < leofox> i mean like yeah you can choke on it 22:34 <+krisk> not much risk if you do it once or twice 22:34 <+krisk> besides choking if you do it wrong 22:34 <@_Auron_> I wish I had my pipe :( 22:34 <+krisk> but a lot of braindamage and stuff if you get too into it 22:34 <@_Auron_> it broke awhile back, I threw the pieces away though 22:35 <+krisk> dmt is like superintense short version of lsd 22:35 <+krisk> or lsd/shrooms 22:35 <+krisk> starts pretty much immedeately, peaks after 15 minutes, clear after an hour 22:36 < leofox> how long are shrooms supposed to last 22:36 < leofox> because we had it for I think 4-5 hours 22:36 < leofox> but my mind was still racy for a few days 22:36 * _Auron_ is about to smoke the tiny bit of weed he has left.. it's 'dust' 22:37 <+krisk> 20 min onset peak after 3-4 hours, goes down for an hour or two and is completely gone after 12 22:37 <+krisk> more or less of course 22:37 <+krisk> of course it can leave an impression for a while : ) 22:37 < leofox> well i couldnt sleep after doing it 22:37 < leofox> because i was thinking of everything 22:40 < leofox> hmmmmmmmmmmmmm 22:40 < leofox> sake 22:42 -!- Netham45 [~Netham45@c-71-229-253-50.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 372 seconds] 22:44 <@_Auron_> that was a decent hit :p 22:44 < leofox> nice 22:44 < leofox> I only have alcohol 22:44 -!- Netham45 [~Netham45@c-71-229-253-50.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 22:45 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Netham45] by efneTI89, SnowCrash 22:48 <@_Auron_> :O 22:48 <@_Auron_> that .. was .. better than I thought 22:48 <@_Auron_> it's kicking in 22:49 <@_Auron_> and I just got bored and opened up the bottom of my bong for the very first time (have had it for like a year) 22:49 <@_Auron_> and scraped out the resin 22:49 <@_Auron_> as well as stuff that fell in 22:53 <+krisk> wish i knew some potheads who were still into it all 22:53 <+krisk> they all grew up after hs <_< 22:54 <+krisk> well, at least enough not to be doing weed shrooms xtc and stuff all the time 22:55 < leofox> pfft boring :P 22:55 <@_Auron_> what losers 22:55 < leofox> where can you get xtc anyway 22:55 <@_Auron_> that's not growing up 22:55 <@_Auron_> that's becoming sheeps of society 22:56 <+krisk> yeah a bit 22:56 <+krisk> theyre still pretty cool though, compared to fullon sheep 22:56 <@_Auron_> that's like saying some guys that 'grew up' after hs and stopped drinking 22:56 <+krisk> leofox: well if you know the right people it's easy of course 22:57 < leofox> well i dont 22:57 <@_Auron_> lol my desk is full of paraphenalia 22:57 <+krisk> I know where to find them here in almere and I know the peeps who know them 22:57 <@_Auron_> plastic bags of various small sizes, tin box, piece of old white paper with stuff on it, a knife, and a trippy looking blue bag, plus 4 lighters, and a bong 22:58 <+krisk> http://le-cameleon.hyves.nl they hang out here often 22:58 <@_Auron_> and some rubber bands (everything except the bong fits inside the tin can if I seal it with rubber bands) 22:58 <+krisk> some of the peeps there are dealers who have pretty much anything from speed to lsd 22:58 <@_Auron_> heh 22:58 <@_Auron_> I'd never get into stuff like that 22:59 <@_Auron_> anyhow I have like 3x the amount of resin/dust than the first hit from the bong, since I cleaned out the inside of the bong 22:59 <+krisk> i dont think i would either, plus the quality of what they have now sucks pretty bad from what i hear 22:59 <@_Auron_> and just stuffed some broken up stems into the piece to make a 'net' for all this dust 22:59 <@_Auron_> lol 22:59 <@_Auron_> the quality of it 23:01 <+krisk> i want to chill there more but the people i know are really lame and never want to go anywhere 23:01 <@_Auron_> omfg 23:01 <@_Auron_> it looked like microscopic black sand 23:01 <@_Auron_> this is going to seriously fuck me up 23:10 <+krisk> (Joe Rogan about DMT) "DMT is 100,000 times crazier than that. It's like mushrooms times a million plus aliens." 23:15 <@_Auron_> heh 23:15 <+krisk> cool guy btw 23:20 <@_Auron_> I'm so green right now 23:28 * seidior walks in 23:28 * seidior hugs _Auron_ 23:28 * seidior walks out 23:29 <@_Auron_> o.o 23:33 -!- millinao [~millinao@c-71-193-155-217.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa 23:38 -!- Merthsoft [~Shaun@140.141.26.108] has joined #tcpa 23:45 < Merthsoft> l 23:45 < Merthsoft> l 23:45 < Merthsoft> for soome stupid-ass reason, my windows start way at the top of the chatlog instead of the bottom 23:46 -!- HelDragon [~Nocebo@modemcable022.187-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #tcpa 23:53 -!- pen is now known as blankie 23:54 -!- smart_ [~smart@c-76-110-92-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 372 seconds] 23:55 -!- muerbetei [~jan@83-221-84-30.dynamic.primacom.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:57 -!- Damakaru [~Winterven@216.117.122.178] has joined #tcpa --- Log closed Mon Jan 19 00:00:08 2009