--- Log opened Sat Jan 17 00:00:08 2009
00:00 < Damakaru> Oy.  My dual-screen setup is so uber-ghetto...
00:01 < Damakaru> Got to have the laptop sitting on a box.
00:02 < Damakaru> And me, on a filing cabinet to reach the keyboard.
00:04 < j-b-r> Why would you do that?
00:04 < _Digital> Damakaru, that make you sound like a midget
00:05 < j-b-r> I mean, believe it or not, but dual screen setups work just as well when the screens don't line up exactly...
00:05 < Damakaru> Mostly because it is really annoying to have that gap between screens.
00:05 < j-b-r> Have you actually tried it that way?
00:06 < j-b-r> Oh, wait, are you trying to have one window span both screens?
00:06 < j-b-r> Because that would make it annoying
00:06 < j-b-r> But when I do it, I just maximize one window on one screen and one on the other, and then it doesn't matter where they are
00:07 < Damakaru> Yes, and when I'm dragging windows, they don't go where my mind is expecting them to go.
00:07 < j-b-r> Well, I guess I just got used to it
00:08  * _Digital pokes Andy_J, get a better picture for the tcpa gallery
00:13 < Damakaru> *Still laughing...* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETN1px7i4KY
00:14 <+Netham46> "[notice] caught SIGWINCH, shutting down gracefully"  what the hell is a SIGWINCH?
00:14 <+Netham46> amd why is it killing Apache?
00:14 < Damakaru> Apache is a winch?
00:15 < Damakaru> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIGWINCH)
00:15 <+Netham46> apparantly
00:15 <+Netham46> why
00:15 <+Netham46> the hell would apache begetting that
00:16 <+Netham46> more importantly, why the hell is it causing it to hard-crash?
00:16 < Damakaru> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=644225
00:16 <+Netham46> yea, I've seen that page
00:16 < Damakaru> Like that?
00:16 <+Netham46> it doesn't say how he fixed it
00:16 <+Netham46> yea, like that.
00:16 <+Netham46> but, I didn
00:17 <+Netham46> didn't just install a new mod
00:20 < Damakaru> Are you trying to do something with SSL?
00:20 <+Netham46> no
00:20 <+Netham46> don't even have SSL modules installed
00:20 < Damakaru> *Keeps digging...*
00:21 <+Netham46> speaking of which, I did remove all of my modules 1 by 1 until I couldn't remove any more and have it start
00:21 <+Netham46> didn't help
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00:24 <@efneTI92> [TheStorm] Yes rivereye, it is time to go fishing.
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00:26 < Damakaru> *Gives up, stops digging.*
00:27 <+kirsk> hi
00:28 < _Digital> http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/posters/89a1/
00:28 < _Digital> http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/posters/5cd7/
00:30 <@Andy_J> no u
00:30 < _Digital> do you have any of these yet? I expect a shrine out of you
00:30 < _Digital> http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/posters/a76a/
00:31 <@Andy_J> *facepalm*
00:32 < _Digital> ^.^
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00:37 <+kirsk> hi
00:38 < _Digital> hi
00:38 <@Andy_J> Netham46: because the default action for any signal is to terminate
00:38 <+Netham46> Andy_J, Why's it getting that signal?
00:38 <+Netham46> or, how do I disable that?
00:39 <@Andy_J> somebody either sent it that with kill or its terminal resized
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00:39 <+Netham46> nothing sent it that kill, and it's not in a terminal.
00:40 < _Digital> and I cannnot think of a good reason to have apache in a terminal too
00:42  * _Digital turns up his music and cleans his room
00:42 < _Digital> it
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00:42 < _Digital> wb
00:44 < Damakaru> *Grumbles:* Friggin' Catalyst.
00:44 < _Digital> building your own stage 1?
00:44 < _Digital> 1*
00:46 < Damakaru> Catalyst driver's been fucking up this version.  If X gets started again (like after logout, or it gets the three-finger salute), Catalyst causes a panic.
00:47 < _Digital> ah, ATI catalyst
00:49 < Damakaru> I sort of miss how Vista just worked, hardware-wise.
00:50 < _Digital> http://www.flickr.com/photos/criteriongames/3182002043/sizes/o/
00:50 < _Digital> http://www.flickr.com/photos/criteriongames/3182002165/sizes/o/
00:50 < Damakaru> But I hate how all the drivers have to be signed.
00:50 < _Digital> most everyone should've seen this one already: http://www.flickr.com/photos/criteriongames/3182002311/sizes/o/
00:51 <@Andy_J> Damakaru: They don't have to be signed any more than XP drivers have to be signed.
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00:54 < Damakaru> Well, I remember trying to use two programs that had their own drivers, but Vista would not let me use them.
00:54 <@Andy_J> bullshit.
00:55 <@Andy_J> unless the 64-bit version is still super-strict for no reason whatsoever
01:01 < Damakaru> I'm really thinking about switching.  Anything else I want to do can be done under Virtualbox.
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01:04 < mtgrss111> yo!
01:05 < millinao> HI
01:07 <+Netham46> Damakaru, yes, windows is the way!
01:07 <+Netham46> I'm giving up on Linux and finally moving my site over to Windows.
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01:09 < Damakaru> By some miracle, my external that I `dd`.was going to sell missed destruction by 
01:11 <+Netham46> huh?
01:15 < sir_lewk> Damakaru: you are a crazy person
01:15 < sir_lewk> you lapses in sanity shall not be tolerated
01:16 < Damakaru> sir_lewk:  There is no insanity when you have hardware-assisted virtualization.
01:17 <+kirsk> you get that on linux too
01:17 < sir_lewk> yarly
01:17 < sir_lewk> with like, any modern proc from the past 2 years
01:18 <+kirsk> or the future!
01:19 < sir_lewk> mm, "Cube" is on
01:19 < Damakaru> kirsk / sir_lewk:  I'll use Vista for the better hardware support, and everything else virtualized.  Then, I do not have to worry about shitty propritary Linux drivers that fuck up every other release.
01:19 < sir_lewk> I have not seen this yet
01:19 < sir_lewk> I don't bother with proprietary drivers and linux
01:20 < sir_lewk> I do not game in linux
01:20 < sir_lewk> I *work* in linux ;)
01:20 < Merthsoft> sir_lewk: cube is an AMAZING movie
01:20 < sir_lewk> yah, so I hear
01:20 < sir_lewk> no spoilers
01:20 < sir_lewk> :P
01:20 < Merthsoft> dumbldore dies
01:21 < Damakaru> And the dog, too.
01:21 < millinao> i've never seen cube
01:21 < sir_lewk> snape kills dumbldore with rosebud?
01:22 <+Netham46> exactly.
01:22 < Damakaru> ...And they lived happily ever after.  The end.
01:22 < millinao> DAMNIT
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01:24 < mtgrss111> yo
01:25 < Damakaru> Yo, yo, yo, 'sup homie?
01:25 <@chronomex> ...
01:25 <@chronomex> hi
01:25 <@chronomex> Merthsoft: it is!
01:25 < Merthsoft> what?
01:26 < mtgrss111> nm, Damakaru
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01:31 < Damakaru> Is it legal in the US to download Vista via torrent, but use the license given to you on that sticker on the bottom/side/back of the computer?
01:32 < mtgrss111> would that even work?
01:32 < millinao> i think thats illegal
01:33 < mtgrss111> does the computer already have vista?
01:33 <+Netham46> I think it's legal
01:33 < Damakaru> I do not want to use the Tohshiba installer, because it reboots about eight times and installs lots of shit.
01:33 <+Netham46> because when you download it, it's a "trial"
01:33 <+Netham46> but, getting it off of a torrent's stupid
01:33 <+Netham46> people like to hide shit in those.
01:34 < mtgrss111> downloading vista at all is stupid. can't beat the legal, convenient, overpriced package.
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01:35 < Damakaru> Microsoft should have kept that ambient music they had in XP.  I liked that song.  :P
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01:36 < mtgrss111> Microsoft should have kept that ambient theme they had in XP. I liked that Luna. :P
01:38 < Damakaru> I suppose msstyles work out of the box in Vista?  Maybe someone put up a copy of it...
01:39 < mtgrss111> microsoft doesnt like people messing with that, apparently.
01:44 < Damakaru> See you on the dark side.  *Demonic laugh.*
01:44 <+kirsk> dont need haxed dll?
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01:55 <+kirsk> http://aycu18.webshots.com/image/31577/2004807571372406823_rs.jpg   lawl
01:55  * chronomex braces hisself
01:55 <@chronomex> ... wtf
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02:05 <@efneTI92> [PhillipA] Success is a journey, not a destination.  So stop running.
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02:42 < Nikky_Jr> wow
02:42 < Nikky_Jr> It's been a very long time since I used pidgin on this computer
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02:56 <+kirsk> chk
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03:03 < millinao> pidgin is awesome
03:03 < Grue`> Eww @ IM client for IRC
03:03 < Grue`> Irssi 0.8.12 (20071006) - http://irssi.org/
03:03 < Grue`> FTW
03:04 < Milyardo> O
03:04 < Milyardo> M
03:04 < Milyardo> F
03:04 < Milyardo> G
03:04 < Milyardo> http://entertainment.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/01/16/1619254
03:05 < Milyardo> Grue`: :D irssi 4life
03:05 <@_Auron_> Milyardo: old news
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03:07 <+kirsk> keanu always plays in cool movies
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03:11 < Nikky> Milyardo: awesome
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03:16 < millinao> wats going on tee see pee ay
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03:18 < Milyardo> "Battle Angel Alita is also coming in 2011, with James Cameron as the director."
03:19 < Milyardo> Another WTF moment o.O
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03:19 < leofox> ahaha tcpa
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03:20 < Milyardo> 2011 - Summer of the bastardized live action american versions of classic Japanese anime?
03:20 < Milyardo> o____o
03:20 < millinao> what about the dragonball movie
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03:21 < millinao> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragonball_(film)
03:21 < millinao> you can't get more classic than that
03:22 < leofox> hey gyus
03:22 < leofox> i swear to drunk im not god
03:22 < leofox> lol
03:22 < millinao> HAHAHA that's so funny
03:22 < Milyardo> el oh el
03:23 < leofox> lo
03:23 < leofox> sup tcpa
03:24 <+kirsk> lolfox
03:25 < leofox> hey kirsk
03:25 < leofox> omg man
03:25 < leofox> it was so stupid
03:25 <+kirsk> what was
03:25 < leofox> we had this stupid meeting with the algemeen bestuur
03:25 <+kirsk> ok..
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03:25 < leofox> they are like the old guys that make sure we dont do anything stupid
03:25 < leofox> most of them used to be bestuur
03:25 < leofox> but the meeting was boring so we went to drink beer
03:26 <+kirsk> lulz
03:26 < leofox> and after a while these retards start throwing cookies and creamer at each other
03:26 <@_Auron_> wow
03:26 < leofox> and Auron is here
03:26 < leofox> hi auron!
03:27 <@_Auron_> 'lo
03:27 <+kirsk> silly retards
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03:32 <+kirsk> oh I've been asked to this housewarming party of a girl, who I've never meter seen or spoken to, by someone
03:32 <+kirsk> *met
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03:36 < millinao> i have the weirdest conversations
03:36 < millinao> "i feel like my eyes are going to pop out"
03:36 < millinao> "that's odd, try pushing them back in'
03:44 <@_Auron_> hmm..
03:46 <@_Auron_> code, watch lost, or play dragon warrior 2
03:46 < _Digital> code
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03:49 < millinao> lost
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04:02 < millinao> i think i am the only male in the universe that would willingly go to a ballet
04:02 <@_Auron_> millinao: I had a friend in highschool that was IN ballet
04:03 <@_Auron_> and no he wasn't gay
04:03 < millinao> awesome
04:03 <@_Auron_> if he was I would've hit on him :P
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04:05 < millinao> haha
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04:09 < Milyardo> <insert offtpoic, yet insightful pun here>
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04:10 < millinao> no puns are insightful
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04:10 < Milyardo> millinao +5 Redundant
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04:21 < millinao> how do you pronounce esoteric
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04:23 < smart_> Ess-oh-tear-ick
04:23 < Barrett> S O tear ick
04:24 < sir_lewk> esoteric
04:24 < Barrett> sir_lewk++
04:24 < millinao> THANKS LEWK
04:25 < sir_lewk> np
04:26 < sir_lewk> I am here to serve.
04:26 < Tari> man do I love having a wheely chair
04:26 < sir_lewk> but no seriously, pronounce it like Barrett said
04:26 < sir_lewk> Dude!
04:26 < sir_lewk> wheely chairs are badass
04:26 < Tari> the dvr box finishes rebooting, and I fling myself across the room and grab its keyboard
04:26 < ReDeEm> yoooo
04:26 < sir_lewk> especially wheelychairs that can lean back
04:26 < ReDeEm> sir_lewk: you want one? I found one in my attic.
04:27 < sir_lewk> I have one at home too
04:27 < Tari> mine goes so far back it feels like it might fall over backwards
04:27 < sir_lewk> yes!
04:27 < sir_lewk> excellent
04:27 < sir_lewk> leaning backwards in the partial fetal position of "sitting" is the most comfortable thing ever
04:33 < sir_lewk> Malcom the mathmetician from Jurrasic Park is my hero
04:34 < mtgrss111> halli
04:34 < Spengo> so em
04:34 < sir_lewk> and Samuel L. Jackson is pretty superb in this movie
04:34 < Spengo> why are there no bsg torrents yet
04:34 < Spengo> :|
04:34 < sir_lewk> bsg?
04:34 < mtgrss111> Scully from X-Files was MY heroine
04:34 < Spengo> battlestar galactica
04:35 < sir_lewk> oh
04:35 < sir_lewk> mtgrss111: pppft
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04:35 < sir_lewk> Ripley kicks all other heroine's asses
04:35 < sir_lewk> Ripley from the alien series
04:36 <@efneTI92> [TehStorm] Yes rivereye, it is time to go fishing.
04:36 < sir_lewk> she is probably my favorite sci-fi character of all time
04:36 < sir_lewk> second only perhaps to Han Solo.  it's pretty close
04:36 < Tari> what about the space pope?
04:36 < sir_lewk> from futurama :D
04:37 < sir_lewk> pretty funny
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04:37 < sir_lewk> well, if we are including futurama, then ALL GLORY TO HYPNOTOAD
04:38 < Tari> *THE HYPNOTOAD
04:38 < sir_lewk> truth
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04:39 < sir_lewk> you know, Sigourney Weaver is one of the few actresses that I actually like
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04:39 < sir_lewk> good actors are pretty common, most actresses are talentless bimbos though
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04:47 < sir_lewk> "clever girl" :D
04:47 < Tari> :D
04:47 < Tari> I figured out the answer to that problem on the math test in the one xkcd
04:48 < Tari> it was 18.6 degrees of horizontal or some such
04:48 < Tari> *off horizontal
04:51 < sir_lewk> nice
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04:52 < sir_lewk> man, the special effects in the movie really are superb
04:53 < sir_lewk> looks real as hell even today
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04:54 < Damakaru> Yay.  Everything just works.  It's amazing.  And the compositing is nice, too.
04:55 < sir_lewk> "this is a unix system... I know this!" xD
04:55 < i_c-Y> Damakaru: what distro are you on now?
04:56 < Damakaru> Vista.  Will have Arch (para)virtualized.
04:58 < i_c-Y> oh.
04:58 < i_c-Y> vista is good.
04:58 < i_c-Y> did you get an anytime upgrade disc?
04:58 < Damakaru> No, I used my OEM discs.
05:00 < Tari> oh, and you'd live 6.33 seconds, I believe
05:00 < Tari> in the question before the triangle of raptors
05:01 < Damakaru> Now, there is the matter of moving all the stuff from my Ext3 backup.
05:01 < sir_lewk> I love that xkcd
05:01 < Damakaru> And many, many files with interesting characters in their name.
05:03 < Tari> if I'm even in a position to administer a test
05:03 < Tari> it'll be that one
05:05 < Damakaru> I need an antivirus here, don't I?  Anything small and lightweight?
05:05 < Tari> I'm using Avira
05:05 < Tari> it's light and unobtrusive
05:05 < Tari> but I really only use antivirus if I'm dealing with files that look shady
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05:07 < Tari> AVG gave me a lot of false positives, but worked ok
05:08 < Tari> huh
05:08 < Tari> EAGLE has been update since I last tried to use it :)
05:08 < Tari> *updated
05:09 < Tari> it now uses an installer that works under vista
05:09 < i_c-Y> i dont use an antivirus, Damakaru 
05:09 < i_c-Y> but thats  because im awesome.
05:09 < i_c-Y> nod32 is a good choice.
05:10 < Tari> avira's running 3 threads, totalling 12 MB of RAM
05:10 < Tari> of my 6 GB
05:10 < Damakaru> I keep getting resets and "display driver recovered messages."
05:10 < Damakaru> * screen
05:11 < i_c-Y> get better drivers for your graphics.
05:20 < Merthsoft> ahaha
05:20 < Merthsoft> programming practical joke
05:20 < Merthsoft> #define if while
05:23 < Damakaru> What happens if they use a "do-while?"
05:24 < Merthsoft> then it's not as funny
05:24 < Merthsoft> but do-while is for punks
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05:32 < Damakaru> Andy_J:  Oh, yeah, you were right about that whole "strict-on-x64"-thing:  "In Vista x64, Microsoft requires all drivers to have a special code signature, or they won't load."
05:32 < Damakaru> (Aw, nuts.)
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05:33 < Damakaru> Why do they do that for just x64?
05:34 < DSP_pda> what's the deal with the topic?
05:35 < i_c-Y> Damakaru: what sp of vista are you on?
05:36 < Damakaru> One.
05:36 < i_c-Y> you can disable it in vista sp2 beta
05:37 < Damakaru> Sweet.
05:37 < i_c-Y> you can also disable it if you dont have sp1.
05:37 < i_c-Y> and if you boot while holding f8, yo uhave the option to disable it per session.
05:38 < i_c-Y> install sp2 beta and look up the bcdedit tricks
05:38 < i_c-Y> though do you need unsigned driver support?
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05:39 < Damakaru> Yes.
05:43 < Damakaru> Eeeeeeew, Norton.  *Gags.*
05:47 < ryantmer> Apparently Norton 2009 has been completely rewritten and is a helluva lot better than it has been
05:48 < ryantmer> Remains to be seen by me, but some others have claimed it to be true.
05:50 < i_c-Y> i wouldnt be surprised.
05:55 < _Digital> i_c-Y, what antivirus or intrusion detection do you think I should run on my linux box?
05:58 < Damakaru> I thought you don't need one as long as you don't use Wine extensively.
05:58 < i_c-Y> not so much antiviruses, but tripwire , snort, rkhunter are good things to have on hand.
05:59 < _Digital> well I have it up and running 24/7 so I want to make sure no one tries to break it
05:59 < i_c-Y> theres a bunch of kernel patches as well, such as grsecurity, LIDS, etc.
05:59 < i_c-Y> chkrootkit is also another one
05:59 < Damakaru> SELinux?
06:00 < i_c-Y> more trouble than its worth.
06:00 < _Digital> why is it so prominent
06:01 < i_c-Y> DoD sponsored, mandatory access controls arent bad - selinux can be pretty annoying though.
06:01 < i_c-Y> since you use gentoo, note that a hardened project exists.
06:01 < _Digital> yeah, I should've installed that from scratch but didn't
06:02 < _Digital> haven't had a chance to change over, but I hear it isn't that hard
06:02 < i_c-Y> sandbox anything that should be sandboxed, there's also apparmor 
06:03 < _Digital> yeah, I have all my compiling sandboxed
06:03 < i_c-Y> there's that bastille program too. 
06:04 < i_c-Y> what port is ssh running on?
06:04 < i_c-Y> and do you have something like pf or similar?
06:04 < _Digital> non-standard
06:04 < _Digital> ignorance would say no
06:04 < i_c-Y> packet filter? firewall?
06:05 < i_c-Y> iptables ring a bell?
06:05 < i_c-Y> they're kinda good to have.
06:06 < _Digital> yeah. its I'm still in foreign territory with the vast variety of tools available for linux
06:06 < _Digital> and how to distinguish which would be best to use
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06:06 < _Digital> hey Hunterkll
06:07 < Damakaru> Auditing?
06:07 < i_c-Y> disable unneeded services, etc. you also can run scanners such as nmap , and other scanning tools to help you.
06:07 < Hunterkll> sup
06:08 < i_c-Y> a few of these tools can be really annoying to setup though.
06:08 < _Digital> that is the problem
06:08 < i_c-Y> (or just take a long time - atleast i remember tripwire taking a loooooooong time when i was like 12)
06:09 < i_c-Y> rkhunter, chkrootkit, etc. are quick to install though
06:09 < _Digital> and to use?
06:11 < i_c-Y> i believe gentoo adds it to crontab for you
06:11 < i_c-Y> usage is trivial.
06:11 < Damakaru> You sound better off on Fedora or OpenSuSE or something, where all that stuff, if not already set up for you, can be done in, like, three clicks.
06:11 < _Digital> well we're only talking one distro since I'm using just that one atm
06:12 < i_c-Y> or OpenBSD, where they kinda try to shove it down your throat.
06:12 < i_c-Y> try the bastille script, _Digital 
06:12 < _Digital> k
06:12 < i_c-Y> its kinda like "buying security" but its interactive and you can get some ideas from it
06:12 < i_c-Y> tripwire give syou a lot of prompts when setting it up as well.
06:13 < i_c-Y> (there are alternatives to tripwire now which you may want to consider - see google)
06:13 < i_c-Y> snort isnt hard either.
06:14 < _Digital> I'll get to that as soon as I can walk around my room without stepping over stuff
06:14 < i_c-Y> also, checking your specific services such as say your MTA or whatever is a good idea
06:14 < i_c-Y> theres some good options in PAM too
06:15 < Damakaru> (Descisions, decisions...)
06:15 < Milyardo> PAM is 1337
06:15 < _Digital> I believe I PAM is someone integrated and configured upon install too
06:15 < Milyardo> not BSD PAM though
06:15 < Milyardo> thats fail
06:16 < _Digital> somewhat*
06:17 < i_c-Y> if you have a bunch of time, you can do some good stuff with SELinux's MAC's but i dont think you have much more time than i do
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06:21 < _Digital> I wish I had more. I will in about a 3 weeks though
06:21 < _Digital> at least temporarily
06:21 < i_c-Y> ill have a lot less in less than a week
06:22 < _Digital> seems like my scripts are working good for recording. I need to test back-to-back recordings on the same tuner though
06:25 < i_c-Y> night
06:25 < _Digital> I still need to run a cable from the House antenna to my room
06:25 < _Digital> have a good one
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06:36 < millinao> firefox is like 5x faster than opera
06:36 <@E-J> morning
06:36 < millinao> i just switched back to FF
06:36 < millinao> mornin' E-J
06:49 <@E-J> apparently evening millinao 
06:54 < Merthsoft> night guys!
06:55 <@_Auron_> night
06:59 < millinao> knight
06:59 <@E-J> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTQfGd3G6dg
06:59 <@_Auron_> hax!
07:00 <@_Auron_> $0+$6 shipping for wireless wii sensorbar
07:00 < Hunterkll> lolwut?
07:00 < millinao> i love this movie
07:01 <@_Auron_> http://www.eforcity.com/gninwiixsb01.html?efnslmiweeml081210=gninwiixsb01 <-- put in the FREEWIIBAR coupon code and it drops the price to $0, shipping is $5.99
07:01 <@_Auron_> extra ad I saw on woot.com
07:04 < _Digital> new phone or new brakes and rotors for my car? Damn electronics cost a hellofa lot
07:05 <@E-J> oh they ship even to finland with that 5.99
07:06 <@_Auron_> I think the shipping might normally be free but because of the coupon/'gift' usage it charges shipping, but ends up being cheaper regardless
07:06 <@_Auron_> "Shipping fee will be charged if purchase only with free gift / free shipping items"
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07:07 <@efneTI92> [Dauron] We called it Sin.
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07:08 <@E-J> 4.5 euros from wiibar isn't bad
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07:17 < sir_lewk> dancing time!
07:17 <@E-J> excelent, it's saturday, so you would thought that busses are going with little less frequency, like if i want to get to school now there would be only one bus and next goes after 30 minutes
07:17 < sir_lewk> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMf7vA0tYuc&fmt=18
07:17 <@E-J> http://aikataulut.ytv.fi/reittiopas/en/?mm=trip&sm=&m=&adv=&map=&n=&a=12698&b=19923&c=&an=3&bn=&cn=&keya=Revontulentie%203&keyb=TKK&keyc=&date=20090117&time=1000&params=2l3l1l3l2l2ll1l1l1l1l1l0
07:19 <@E-J> journey planner says (in that short url) that if i miss that 550 9:35, next will go after 10 minutes
07:19 <@E-J> but !<3 saturday exams
07:25 <@E-J> -12.8°C hrrrr
07:27 < Hunterkll> it's -14.4 here :(
07:27 < Hunterkll> holy fuck man
07:27 <@E-J> but you don't have to get out?
07:27 < Hunterkll> tomorrow's gonna be a collldd motorcycle ride
07:28 < Hunterkll> E-J: I only have a motorcycle. ^_^
07:28 <@E-J> hah :)
07:28 < Hunterkll> psh
07:28 < Hunterkll> insurance, full coverage, is $200(USD) a year
07:28 < Hunterkll> as opposed to $200/month for a car
07:28 < Hunterkll> xD
07:28 <@E-J> +gasoline
07:29 <@E-J> local transport 30e/month
07:29 < Hunterkll> oh god :(
07:29 < Hunterkll> tomorrows high
07:29 < Hunterkll> is -6.1
07:29 < Hunterkll> :(
07:29 <@E-J> in finland people won't use their motorcycles during winter time
07:30 < Hunterkll> in america i'm too cheap for a car
07:30 < Hunterkll> however
07:30 <@E-J> apparently studded tyres cost too much
07:30 < Hunterkll> <3 my heated handgrips
07:30 < Hunterkll> heh
07:30 < Hunterkll> yea
07:30 < Hunterkll> not so much ice in winter in maryland usually
07:30 < Hunterkll> if so it's only a 12 mile walk to work
07:30 < Hunterkll> so no biggie
07:31 <@E-J> but now to that exam, with warm bus ->
07:31 < Hunterkll> haha
07:34 < sir_lewk> "< Hunterkll> insurance, full coverage, is $200(USD) a year" that's because in a motorcycle accident there probably won't be anything left to fix of the motorcycle and the other car will be just fine :P
07:34 < Hunterkll> Actually
07:34 < Hunterkll> that's with two wrecks on my policy in the last three years too
07:34 < sir_lewk> oh wow
07:34 < Hunterkll> one being a sand slick
07:34 < Hunterkll> and another a rearending in fog
07:34 < sir_lewk> :-/
07:34 < Hunterkll> to be honest, flying over the car was fun
07:35 < Hunterkll> i just got up
07:35 < Hunterkll> brushed myself off
07:35 < sir_lewk> ouch
07:35 < Hunterkll> checked my laptop
07:35 < Hunterkll> and drove home
07:35 < Hunterkll> took the handlebars off the bike
07:35 < sir_lewk> that's cheap as hell though
07:35 < Hunterkll> and found out there was a  SIX INCH DIFFERENT IN THE HEIGHT OF THE HANDGRIPS ><
07:35 < Hunterkll> that i didn't even notice
07:35 < Hunterkll> while driving home
07:35 < sir_lewk> shock?
07:35 < Hunterkll> i was like "... GAH WTF?"
07:35 < Hunterkll> no
07:35 < Hunterkll> nah
07:35 < Hunterkll> it was a 90 mile ride home
07:35 < Hunterkll> :p
07:35 < Hunterkll> i stopped for gas, cigarettes, everything
07:36 < Hunterkll> lol
07:36 < sir_lewk> lol
07:36 < Hunterkll> my insurance policy paid out $3000 over the two wrecks
07:36 < Hunterkll> and my premiums went up from $200 to $250
07:36 < Hunterkll> and went back down to $200 when i went from an 800cc bike to a 1300cc bike
07:36 < Hunterkll> >_>;;
07:38 < sir_lewk> wat
07:38 < sir_lewk> how much do you spend on gas with that?
07:39 <@E-J> and waiting for bus
07:39 < Nikky> hi
07:39 < sir_lewk> hello kind sir
07:39 < Nikky> Greetings brave knight, sir_lewk 
07:40  * sir_lewk slays the mighy Netham46 dragon
07:40 <+Netham46> sir_lewk, fuck off.
07:40  * sir_lewk licks Netham46
07:40 <+Netham46> diaf.
07:40 < sir_lewk> tastes like chicken
07:40 < sir_lewk> so what be happin Nikky?
07:42 < sir_lewk> I don't know what this movie is, but it's pretty crazy
07:42 < sir_lewk> like 5 main characters have died in the last 5 minutes, the guy who kills the main character becomes the new one for like 1 minute
07:42 < sir_lewk> absurdidy
07:44 <@E-J> btw it's damn cold outside
07:44 < Hunterkll> sir_lewk, uh
07:44 < Hunterkll> idk
07:45 <@E-J> luckily i'm now in bus
07:45 < Hunterkll> i get about 40-45mpg on my bike though
07:45 < Hunterkll> so not much savings in terms of gas
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07:45 < Hunterkll> but it's a big cruiser
07:45 < Hunterkll> Honda VTX 1300
07:47 < sir_lewk> I want a tank
07:48 < sir_lewk> I'm pretty sure the 2nd ammendment says I'm allowed to have one
07:49 < sir_lewk> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:M1A1_Twin_Bridges_training_area,_Republic_of_Korea_1-23_Infantry.jpg
07:49 < sir_lewk> if I rolled up to a gasstation with one of those I'm pretty sure I could get me some free gas
07:51 < Hunterkll> lol
07:51 < sir_lewk> I wonder what they run on...
07:51 < Nikky> no, false
07:51 < Nikky> 2nd amendment sucks
07:51 < Nikky> we should just get rid of the military too
07:51 < _Digital> I just had someone I know call this photo of me, "emo"
07:51 < _Digital> http://tcpa.calcg.org/TCPA_Pictures/slides/_Digital.html
07:51 < Nikky> except the coast guard
07:51 < Nikky> I like them
07:52 < _Digital> mind you this is a strange person who wants to see me in a speedo
07:52 < Nikky> Well, who doesn't.
07:52 < _Digital> me
07:53 < _Digital> and I always find someway to derail the current conversation in here
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07:54 < sir_lewk> that's not a very emo picture _Digital
07:54 < sir_lewk> and emo kid angle perhaps, but you don't look emo
07:54 < _Digital> yeah, I know it isn't, but someone at work thinks it is
07:55 < Nikky> so I found my old ICQ number
07:56 < sir_lewk> http://tcpa.calcg.org/TCPA_Pictures/slides/Cryo.html that's a little emo
07:56 < _Digital> yup
07:57 < Nikky> emo
07:57 < sir_lewk> I need to get a picture of me
07:57 < _Digital> use your phone camera
07:57 < sir_lewk> I don't have one
07:58 < Nikky> http://nykida.net/images/emo.jpg
07:58 < _Digital> digital camera of somekind?
07:59 < _Digital> you did that right now didn't you?
07:59 < Nikky> few days ago
07:59 < Nikky> asslicker
07:59 < Nikky> lrn2exif
07:59 < _Digital> so, no girl means you go emo?
07:59 < Nikky> yes
08:00 < millinao> nikky update my gallery text
08:00 < millinao> i'm 15
08:00 < _Digital> lol
08:00 < Nikky> no
08:00 < Nikky> too hard
08:00 < millinao> bitch
08:00 < millinao> sudo update my gallery text
08:00 < _Digital> su root his gallery text
08:01 < Nikky> do it
08:01 < Nikky> bitch
08:02 < _Digital> Nikky is so emo
08:02 < _Digital> must be why he trolls
08:03 < Nikky> I don't troll.
08:03 < _Digital> !qfind I'm a troll
08:03 <@efneTI86> 1468:Ox40: <Nikky> I'm a troll [...]
08:03 <@efneTI86> 1467:Ox40: <Nikky> We aren't people. <Nikky> I'm a troll, and krisk is a European.
08:03 <@efneTI86> (All of 2 matches)
08:04 < Nikky> Out of context and blatently false.
08:04 < _Digital> you are out of context
08:04 < sir_lewk> yeah, krisk is not a european!
08:04 < sir_lewk> :P
08:04 < Nikky> The credibilty of Ox40 is questionable at best
08:04 < _Digital> I think I added one a while back
08:04 < _Digital> !qfind Nikky troll
08:04 <@efneTI86> No matches
08:05 < sir_lewk> "< Nikky> I'm a furfag troll."
08:05 < sir_lewk> how do you explain that?
08:05 < Nikky> non admissable
08:05 < Nikky> I'm not a furry.
08:05 < Nikky> So the troll statement is platently false
08:05 < sir_lewk> whatevs
08:06 < Nikky> :)
08:06 < sir_lewk> Ok peoples
08:06 < sir_lewk> I have decided
08:06 < sir_lewk> I am a narcissistic transhumanist anarchist
08:07 < sir_lewk> I want to acheive immortality and watch the world burn
08:07 < sir_lewk> how does that suit yall?
08:08 < sir_lewk> it's all a cover really
08:08 < sir_lewk> I'm actually a galactic expansionist
08:08 < Nikky> cool
08:09 < sir_lewk> I think a transhumanist/anarchist agenda is the best way to acheive galactic expansion
08:09 < _Digital> what is the >9000 days thing in the topic?
08:09 < sir_lewk> people have been puting how many days obama has until prez up there
08:10 < _Digital> please make that sentence gramatically correct enough to understand
08:10 < sir_lewk> no u
08:10 < _Digital> no u
08:10 < sir_lewk> I am in an unstable mental state
08:10 < sir_lewk> so u
08:10 < _Digital> I don't care
08:10 < _Digital> DO 
08:10 < _Digital> IT
08:10 < _Digital> NOWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
08:10 < sir_lewk> sleep deprevation + caffiene + painkillers
08:10 < sir_lewk> cant do it
08:10 < sir_lewk> you
08:11 < _Digital> yes you can
08:11 < sir_lewk> nope
08:11 < _Digital> that is why you do those things
08:11 < _Digital> sir_lewk, fix it you doo-doo head
08:13 < sir_lewk> !t Welcome to TCPA | Transhuman Coalition for Practical Anarchy | http://www.junemann.nl/maxcoderz/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=2736 | 3 days
08:13 -!- efneTI86 changed the topic of #tcpa to: Welcome to TCPA | Transhuman Coalition for Practical Anarchy | http://www.junemann.nl/maxcoderz/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=2736 | 3 days
08:13 < sir_lewk> there, fixed
08:13 < sir_lewk> mmm, Event Horizon
08:13 < sir_lewk> this is a good movie
08:13 < _Digital> never saw it
08:13 < sir_lewk> do so
08:14 < Nikky> Obama sucks.
08:14 < sir_lewk> Sci-Fi/Horror.  one of the best
08:14 < millinao> transhumanfag
08:14 < _Digital> I like the Stargate's event horizon
08:14 < Nikky> Hillary would have been a lot better.
08:14 < _Digital> millinao, we don't need to talk about the troll now do we?
08:15 < millinao> i'm not a troll
08:15 < sir_lewk> Nikky: you are right, we'd have a much better chance of acheiving anarchy with her
08:15 < Nikky> wtf
08:15 < sir_lewk> :P
08:15 < Nikky> no
08:15 < sir_lewk> d:
08:15 < sir_lewk> :P
08:15 < sir_lewk> d:
08:15 < Nikky> Better chance at keepign America strong you mean.
08:15 < sir_lewk> pah, hillary was a fool
08:15 < Nikky> diaf
08:15 < Nikky> al
08:16 < _Digital> you want a legitimate political debate in @tcpa right now at this hour Nikky? You are insane
08:16 < Nikky> Let's go.
08:16 < sir_lewk> hillary eats puppies
08:16 < Nikky> Bring it bitch.
08:16 < sir_lewk> cute little weenerdog puppies
08:16 < _Digital> suck it whore
08:16 < Nikky> McCain was a traiter.
08:16 < sir_lewk> CUTE!
08:16 < Hunterkll> wat fk
08:16 < Hunterkll> WAT FK
08:17 < Hunterkll> WAT FK U SAY 2 ME NRD
08:17 < Nikky> !k Hunterkll WAT
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08:17 < sir_lewk> http://www.doxipups.com/2005ingrf1.jpg <== Hillary ate that.
08:17 < _Digital> launch all zig!
08:18 < sir_lewk> damn this movie rocks my socks
08:18 < sir_lewk> blood orgies in space
08:18 < sir_lewk> top that
08:19 < Nikky> okay
08:19 < Nikky> !k Hunterkll Consider yourself topped.
08:19 -!- Hunterkll was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [Nikky: Consider yourself topped.]
08:19 < sir_lewk> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
08:19 < sir_lewk> -mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
08:19 < sir_lewk> too many m's sorry
08:19 < _Digital> !k sir_lewk annoying
08:19 -!- sir_lewk was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [_Digital: annoying]
08:20 < Nikky> :)
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08:20 < Nikky> !k _Digital Kicking sir_lewk
08:20 -!- _Digital was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [Nikky: Kicking sir_lewk]
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08:20 < sir_lewk> "corpsicle" hahaha
08:20 < sir_lewk> this movie is tops
08:20 < _Digital> you are biased Nikky 
08:20 < Nikky> !k Nikky bias
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08:20 < sir_lewk> !qfind masocist
08:20 <@efneTI86> 1413:chronomex: -!- Sir_Lewk was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [Sir_Lewk: no masocists allowed]
08:20 <@efneTI86> (All of 1 match)
08:21 < _Digital> !k sir_lewk quote 1413
08:21 -!- sir_lewk was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [_Digital: quote 1413]
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08:21 < _Digital> wb!
08:21 < sir_lewk> :(
08:22 < _Digital> sorry, couldn't help myself
08:22 < sir_lewk> while I was gone I ate a cat
08:22 < sir_lewk> >.>
08:22 < _Digital> good, we need less of them
08:22 < _Digital> I don't like felines
08:22 < sir_lewk> cats rock
08:22 < sir_lewk> mmmkay, time for more painkillers
08:22 < _Digital> thougt they purred and were annoying?
08:22 < _Digital> go get some sleep
08:24 < sir_lewk> mmno
08:24 < _Digital> me covers up with a blanket 'cause he left his windows open to long
08:24  * _Digital has room for Nikky 
08:25 < _Digital> got a rosetta server to keep me warm. Protein folding is so romantic
08:25 <@_Auron_> o.O
08:26  * sir_lewk folds _Digital's protien
08:26 < _Digital> 0.o
08:30 < _Digital> eth0	31.95 GB	33.89 GB
08:30 < _Digital> welcome to HD TV
08:30 < _Digital> massive bandwidth requirements
08:30 < sir_lewk> cool
08:32 < _Digital> right now I'm looking at consuming about 78 GiB of disk space and bandwidth (intranet, not internet) a week
08:33 < _Digital> on disks I have, I have less than 2 months worth or storage
08:55 < Nikky> that's nice
08:55 < Nikky> none of us really care
08:55 < Nikky> well, Netham45 might
08:56 < _Digital> and ot think I offered you a spot under my blanket
08:56 < Nikky> I don't want your indian giver blanket
08:56 < Nikky> ;)
08:56 < _Digital> I am part Cherokee...
08:56 < Nikky> Good.
08:57 < sir_lewk> "What about my ship? You can't just leave her!"
08:57 < sir_lewk> "I have no intention of leaving her, Doctor. I will take the Lewis and Clark to a safe distance, and then I will launch TAC missiles at the Event Horizon until I'm satisfied she's vaporized. Fuck this ship!"
08:57 < sir_lewk> what a superb movie :)
08:58 < Nikky> sounds violent
09:01 < Nikky> JUST FUCKIN STOP
09:01 < Nikky> JUST FUCKIN STOP
09:02 < _Digital> one more time and I will not try ad kick you
09:02 < Nikky> http://www.omnimaga.org/index.php?PHPSESSID=cf09d8ab4f08e72e3c91a6a27e26c74f&topic=512.msg3352#msg3352
09:02 < Nikky> he has some weird rickroll fetish
09:03 < sir_lewk> how mature
09:08 <@E-J> normal hour and out -exam
09:14 <@E-J> and now ircing from these sun terminals in school lobby and waiting so that shops would be open when i go by bus to home
09:16 <@E-J> ah they are open already \o/
09:17 <@E-J> ->
09:19 < millinao> is omnimaga the thing that our groupthink hates
09:20 < sir_lewk> yes
09:20 < sir_lewk> tcpa groupthink.  I like it
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10:06 <@E-J> our groupthink doesn't hate omnimaga, but mostly omnimaga hates us
10:08 < nicolas> hi all
10:08 < nicolas> groupthink, what's that ?
10:08 <@E-J> dunno, i just used the word millinao used
10:08 <@E-J> maybe some teen language
10:09 < nicolas> how's it going E-J, long time no speak!
10:09 <@E-J> pretty ok, now that all the exams until march are over
10:10 <@E-J> how's it with you, i heard (read from fb) that you are single again
10:10 < nicolas> indeed I am
10:10 < nicolas> kinda sucks, but I guess that's what happens when you can't make the distance disappear
10:11 < nicolas> stupid US immigration :(
10:11 <@E-J> ah :(
10:14 < nicolas> so yeah, got any pretty finnish girl friends to introduce me to ? :D
10:15 <@E-J> check my friends on facebook and those who are single?-)
10:15 < Spengo> anyone in here from sweden?
10:15 < Spengo> one of my friends is studying there this semester
10:16 <@_Auron_> http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c239/quasarsky/russia.jpg
10:17 <@E-J> i'm going to sweden on 26th
10:17 <@E-J> but i'll be back to finland on 28th
10:18 < nicolas> booze trip ?
10:18 <@E-J> Spengo: alh and one other were
10:18 < nicolas> err... booze cruise, rather :P
10:19 <@E-J> nicolas: sort of, except i don't drink
10:19 < nicolas> heh, just joining along and taking pictures and laughing at the drunk people ?
10:19 <@E-J> brother has a ticket to "free" cruise
10:19 <@E-J> yep
10:20 < nicolas> heh, free is always good :D
10:20 <@E-J> but because it's cruise it's "free"
10:20 <@E-J> they never are
10:21 <@E-J> these pictures http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=71337&id=509180562 are from other cruise to tallinn
10:21 <@E-J> you can for example guess what this is http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=1754912&id=509180562
10:22 < nicolas> I have no clue
10:23 < nicolas> tallinn is on the other side though, isn't it ?
10:23 < nicolas> like ...Estonia or something
10:23 <@E-J> yep, it's capital of estonia and it's 80 km from here
10:24 <@E-J> helsinki and tallinn are planning to make train tunnel from helsinki to tallinn
10:24 <@E-J> little like eurotunnel, except little longer
10:25 < nicolas> yeah, wow
10:25 < nicolas> so, what is that thing... some sort of shelf ?
10:25 <@E-J> nope
10:26 < nicolas> old shitty bunkbed frame :p
10:26 <@E-J> yes
10:26 <@E-J> from soviet union
10:26 < nicolas> darn
10:29 < bsparks> ! :D http://blog.iphone-dev.org/
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10:44 -!- mode/#tcpa [+o _Auron_] by efneTI86
10:45 <@efneTI92> [_Auron_] We called it Sin.
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13:25 <@efneTI92> [leofox] All we do in hell is play DDR!
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15:40 < Tari> silly xorg
15:41 < Tari> it segfaulted when I misplaced a quotation mark
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16:01 < guk> hmm ... anyone seen aardvarq around
16:08 < Tari> !seen aardvarq
16:08 <@efneTI86> aardvarq (tgAardvark@student3113.student.nau.edu) was last seen leaving the partyline from CalcGames 3 days, 12 hours ago.
16:09 < guk> hmm
16:11 <+kirsk> lol... this girl i know asked me to come to a housewarming party of a girlfriend of hers. imed me about it 3 times texted me etc and now a few hours before the party begins she texts that shes not going because she's tired.
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16:26 < leofox> fail
16:27 <+kirsk> yeah
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16:28 <+kirsk> I think I'll go to Underground in lelystad, it's metal night there
16:29 <+kirsk> might even take my bike to bike home after the trains stop going, it's an hour-hour and a half to bike
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17:05 < i_c-Y> wtf http://na.blackberry.com/eng/support/programs/certification.jsp?CPID=BAC-Q4-CERT-9&cp=BAC-Q4-CERT-9&dfa=yes
17:06 <+kirsk> why "wtf" ?
17:11 < leofox> What did the boy with no arms and no legs get for christmas?
17:11 <+kirsk> fleshlight?
17:12 < leofox> cancer
17:13 <+kirsk> pwnt
17:15 < leofox> what is the difference between a sandwich and a dead baby?
17:15 <+kirsk> sandwich is higher in carbs?
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17:25 < Ox40Work> GAH... I had to work with this again today: http://ox40.us/imu.png
17:27 <+kirsk> lolinterface
17:27 <@Andy_J> needs higher resolution
17:27 <@Andy_J> and I hope you have a business license for AVG
17:41 <@E-J> so called engineer ui
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17:47 < Ox40Work> E-J: yeah, true.
17:47 < Ox40Work> Andy_J: AVG?
17:48 < Ox40Work> lol i didnt even know I had that on my workstation.
17:48 < Ox40Work> but no, no business license.
17:50 < mtgrss111> yo
17:59 < guk> nicolas: you know my connection supports IPv6 !! 
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18:04 <+ports> hrm
18:04 <+ports> im not sure my computer support sdhc
18:08 < i_c-Y> congratulations, nobody cares so fuck off.
18:09 <+ports> i_c-Y, terrorist
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18:25 < i_c-Y> finally, he leaves.
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18:34 < guk> hmm
18:34 < guk> ah well aardykins isn't here
18:34 < guk> no need to be here 
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18:39 <+ports> http://images.dealnews.com/products/images/700000/726363-large
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19:07 <+kirsk> omnomnom
19:12 < Nikky>  nobody cares kirsk 
19:13 < Nikky> aardvarq: guk was looking for you.
19:13 < Nikky> Ox40Work: I hope you didn't pay money for that interface.
19:20 <@E-J> http://static.iltalehti.fi/ulkomaat/timoputin1701MZ_ul.jpg putin vs princess leia
19:20 < Nikky> lulz]
19:25 < tr1p1ea> some shiela wants to take me home with her
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19:43 < Damakaru> I have Vista SP2 Beta, but I guess it is still not letting me use unsigned drivers.  I can't access none of my Linux partitions on my without IFS, and I can't get USB 2.0 speed in Virtualbox.
19:43 < Damakaru> * my external
19:44 < i_c-Y> Damakaru: did you enable unsigned drivers with bcdedit?
19:45 < Damakaru> *Facepalm.*  Oops.
19:51 < Damakaru> Oh, right -- where do I go to turn on shutdown/restart/logout confirmation
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19:58 < tr1p1ea> !
19:58 < Merthsoft> !
19:58 < tr1p1ea> !1
19:58 < tr1p1ea> 1!
19:59 < tr1p1ea> !!
19:59 <@E-J> 2!
19:59 < tr1p1ea> :X!
19:59 < tr1p1ea> E-J!
19:59 < tr1p1ea> E-J is sick
19:59 <@E-J> tr1p1ea!
19:59  * E-J is not
20:00 < tr1p1ea> bs, urthe sickest euro to ever come to this country
20:02 <@E-J> my diseases have already spreaded there on october
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20:03 <@efneTI92> [PhillipA] Success is a journey, not a destination.  So stop running.
20:03 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v PhillipA] by efneTI92
20:04 <@E-J> http://www.hs.fi/kuvat/iso_webkuva/1135242814121.jpeg
20:08 <@chronomex> awesome
20:08  * chronomex is well
20:14 < mtgrss111> so am i
20:15 < _Digital> as am I
20:19 < Ox40Work> Nikky: we pay a shit-tnop for this software
20:20 < Ox40Work> s/nop/on/
20:20 < Ox40Work> multi-thousand dollars per month
20:29 < TehStorm> Lulz The interface where I work is a lot nicer IMO
20:30 < TehStorm> but it's still just MS access with a pretty frontend
20:30 < TehStorm> yours at least has some themeing
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20:31 < TehStorm> and is full screen, ours uses a window in a window, WTF.
20:31 < TehStorm> it fails hardcore but w/e
20:35 <@chronomex> whoa, nice
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20:59 < Merthsoft> i think my phone just crashed
20:59 < Merthsoft> and erased everything
20:59 < Ox40Work> TehStorm: heh, yeah... but this one still sucks.
20:59 < _Digital> lol wtf?
20:59 <@E-J> on floor?
20:59 < Ox40Work> I want a SQL interface...
20:59 < Ox40Work> Because theirs is limited SO badly...
20:59 < Ox40Work> I can't select rows where the SKU is 6 digits.... (SELECT * FROM `items` WHERE LENGTH(items.`sku`) = 6) or w/e
21:00 < _Digital> I'm tempted to pick up one of two phones, the Samsung i550w or the Nokia 5800
21:00 < _Digital> I'm inclined to get the latter
21:01 <@E-J> i have heard only bad things about usability of samsung phones
21:02 <@E-J> maybe only that thing that if you can use one, that doesn't mean that you can use another model
21:02 < _Digital> well it is/was their first S60 phone
21:03 <@E-J> ah
21:03 < _Digital> I should pass by a nearby circuit city
21:04 <@E-J> those keys look small
21:04 < _Digital> sicne they are starting to close every store as of today
21:04 < _Digital> yeah, though the phone is small
21:04 < _Digital> the keys are better/larger than comparable Nokia phones though
21:06 <@E-J> 5800 has better specs for engineer users
21:06 < _Digital> the best I can get it for right now is about $400
21:07 < _Digital> I want the price to drop another 50 before I buy because it is a little expensive for my budget
21:07 <@E-J> though it has touchscreen
21:08 <@_Auron_> heh touchscreen sucks on most phones
21:08 < _Digital> resistive, not capactive or multi-touch
21:08 < _Digital> each have their advantages/disadvantages
21:09 <@E-J> well i have some angsts agaist touchscreen, i think it won't suit to any phone
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21:10 < _Digital> the touch screen isn't much of a selling point for me. The screen size, wifi, gps, bluetooth, and audio quality are though
21:10 <@E-J> maybe if you want just make calls, it might work, but sms and other things like that
21:11 <@E-J> mine are about: no touchscreen, qwerty, wifi, gps, bt, 3g
21:12 <@E-J> wlan*
21:12 < sir_lewk> http://www.gruesomegames.com/gruesome0.0.1.zip badass little roguelike
21:12 < sir_lewk> you play as a grue trying to stay out of the light and eat adventurers :)
21:12 < _Digital> what current photos fall into that category for you E-J? add a price cap of 150 to 180 euros
21:12 < _Digital> 250-280*
21:13 <@E-J> _Digital: well i have e90
21:13 <@E-J> it was 800 euros
21:13 < _Digital> yeah, hell no?
21:13 < _Digital> ;)
21:14 <@E-J> :)
21:14  * Netham46 is bored.
21:14 <@E-J> bought it 1.5 years go, when it was just came
21:14 <@E-J> had*
21:14 < _Digital> it is still ~$650 here
21:15 < sir_lewk> Netham46: play gruesome
21:16 < sir_lewk> it's awesome tough
21:16 <+Netham46> that'd involve me minimizing my visualizatiohs.
21:17 < _Digital> but you're bored?
21:17 <@E-J> hmm, lowest price of e90 here is 632 euros
21:17 < _Digital> with VAT? or do you not have that?
21:18 <@_Auron_> netham is the one who said he's bored, digital :P
21:18 <@_Auron_> wait.
21:18  * _Auron_ got confused
21:18 <@_Auron_> nevermind
21:18 <@E-J> _Digital: this is finland, of course we have VAT :)
21:18 <@E-J> it's 22%
21:19 < _Digital> that makes me happy with a 7.75% to 8.25% tax here
21:19 <@_Auron_> _Digital: that's probably why we're in debt too :P
21:19 < _Digital> we're in dept because we buy more than we sell
21:21 <@E-J> finland have debts too, but we have high taxes because we are scandinavian welfare state
21:21 < _Digital> and spend more than we make
21:22 < _Digital> E-J, what other phones are similar to the e90? that you think I might like
21:22 < _Digital> that won't cost me the price of a new lens for my camera*
21:24 <@E-J> _Digital: e70
21:25 <@E-J> i don't like those blackberry type phones
21:26 < _Digital> I prefer a landscape format too so I've shyed away from them as well
21:31 <@E-J> e70 though is so old phone that they might not sell it anymore, but then again price goes down all the time
21:31 < _Digital> they still sell teh e70 here in teh states. It is about 80 to 100
21:32 < _Digital> ah, teh E60 is one of those dual CPU phones
21:42 <@chronomex> E-J: 22% :O  do you have income tax too?
21:43 <@E-J> chronomex: yes, we have progressive income tax
21:43 < _Digital> chronomex, that is about the average VAT in Europe
21:43 <@chronomex> ah, crazy
21:44 <@E-J> for food vat is "only" 8 or 6 percent
21:44 < _Digital> we don't tax straight food here
21:44 < _Digital> pre-made though is taxed
21:46 <@E-J> finnish total tax ratio is 43.5%, it's 6th highest in OECD
21:46 <@chronomex> yeah, not many places tax raw food
21:46 <@chronomex> E-J: nice
21:46 <@E-J> only sweden, denmark, belgium, france and norway are head of us
21:47 <@E-J> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_rates_around_the_world
21:47 <@E-J> that has old information, food tax has gone down
21:48 < _Digital> E-J, how well do you think the e60 would handle my internet connection, 15Mbps, over WiFi?
21:49 <@_Auron_> <w0lfy> my dog is fucking insane | <w0lfy> he just passed out on my lap on the couch | <w0lfy> i ahve my laptop ontop of his head typing | <w0lfy> and he doesnt care | <w0lfy> and i'm playig music out of speakers loud
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21:50 < _Digital> NethamSvr has a server?
21:50 < _Digital> does it run ubuntu?
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21:50 <+NethamSvr>  OS  Microsoft Windows Server 2003, Enterprise Edition Service Pack 2 (Build 3790) 
21:52 <@E-J> _Digital: hmmm, dunno, my e90 has work well on my wlan network, though my internet is only 8M
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21:54 <@Andy_J> Ox40Work: pirate
21:55 < _Digital> the one main thing missing from the E60 is GPS. It supports a bluetooth connection to one, but I'd prefer to have it in teh phone
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21:55 < _Digital> Andy_J, how is that BSG shrine coming along?
22:00 <@_Auron_> shrine?
22:02 <@E-J> _Digital: what about e66?
22:03  * _Digital goes to look at specs/reviews
22:04 < Ox40Work>  PIRATE???
22:04 < Ox40Work> NAHHH
22:04 <@Andy_J> if you're using a home license in a business environment, yes
22:04 <@Andy_J> and your employer could get hit with a hefty fine
22:04 <@Andy_J> I suggest you uninstall that
22:05 < Ox40Work> I say.... my boss would talk his way out of it...
22:05 < Ox40Work> and.... its not my problem. :P
22:05 < Ox40Work> anyways, that doesnt make me a pirate at all...
22:06 <@E-J> andy is already dialing to authorities
22:07 <@_Auron_> ehh quite a few business don't use business licenses
22:08 <@_Auron_> businesses*
22:08 < Grue`> BSG shrine?
22:13 < _Digital> Battlestar Galactica
22:13 <@_Auron_> but a shrine?
22:13 < _Digital> its Andy_J...
22:13 < Ox40Work> E-J: bleh let him dial
22:13 < _Digital> he really really loves the show
22:14 < Ox40Work> _Auron_: quite true.
22:14 < Ox40Work> plus, its Windows XP Home edition... I feel I can use a home licence legally.
22:14 < _Digital> Pro > Home
22:15 < Ox40Work> In functionality and cost...
22:15 < Ox40Work> thus, we have home
22:15 < Grue`> No I know what BSG is
22:15 < Grue`> The question was more the shrine part?
22:16 <@E-J> Battle Star Janata
22:16 < Grue`> ha
22:16 < _Digital> I'm poking fun at Andy_J, that is all. He is kinda obsessed with the show
22:16 < Grue`> I <3 BSG
22:17 < sir_lewk> !qadd <@E-J> Battle Star Janata
22:17 <@efneTI86> Quote 1505 added
22:17 < Grue`> Did I finally get you to watch BSG Andy_J? I forget
22:17 < sir_lewk> lmao
22:17 < bsparks> anyone have a GSM [ preferably t-mobile ] phone they no longer need/use?
22:17 < _Digital> Grue`, oh, he watches it alright. He's tried to get me hooked on it
22:17 < _Digital> but no success
22:17 < Grue`> Fail
22:18 < Grue`> Oh I know he watches it
22:18 <@E-J> bsparks: i have 6310i (no sim lock)
22:18 < Grue`> What I mean is, I forget it was him, I think it might have been, that I was singing BSG's praises to and finally got him to start watching a couple seasons in
22:18 <@E-J> but maybe distance is little too long
22:19 < _Digital> Grue`, yesterday when I was talking about my Tv recordign setup and asking for show to record he brought up BSG. I asked him if he has these:
22:19 < _Digital> http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/posters/a76a/
22:19 < _Digital> and a shrine yet. Should I ask you the same?
22:19 < Grue`> Haha
22:19 < Grue`> No
22:20 < _Digital> this is odd
22:20 < _Digital> besides rosetta not giving me any more WU's
22:21 < _Digital> I have three running
22:21 < _Digital> 2 of those are coving a core each
22:21 < _Digital> and the third is split over two but is only using a collective 90%
22:21 <@Andy_J> I think it was 1 season in
22:22 < _Digital> which you copied to DVD for me after I sent some to you
22:23 <@Andy_J> Ox40Work: so you're using two home licenses illegally!
22:23 <@Andy_J> I'm sure Microsoft would be much more likely to get after you than AVG.
22:24 < _Digital> it is 2 copies of Windows. I would say that wouldn't make M$ even think about them, but M$ did try and invalidate Linux a while back
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22:27 <@_Auron_> Andy_J: I've seen even corporate businesses use home versions of windows on their computers
22:27 <@_Auron_> bitch all you want, it's common. :P
22:28 <@E-J> _Auron_: maybe they are all legal
22:28 < Damakaru> *Notices he's using a Home version of Windows, and wonders what important thing he missed.*
22:37 < leofox> just call microsoft if you want another key
22:37 < sir_lewk> "<@_Auron_> Andy_J: I've seen even corporate businesses use home versions of windows on their computers" I've seen corporate businesses do a lot of stupid shit too
22:38 < sir_lewk> like using windows
22:38 < leofox> some do even dumber stuff
22:38 < leofox> like using linux
22:39 < leofox> when practically all business software is for windows
22:39 < sir_lewk> puhleeaze
22:39 < sir_lewk> almost no businesses use linux for average employee workstations
22:39 < sir_lewk> now, linux in servers.  that's another story
22:40 < leofox> sir_lewk no one uses linux for a reason
22:40 < sir_lewk> I'm not denying that
22:40 < sir_lewk> I'm not saying linux is a better choice for workstations
22:40 < sir_lewk> "17:37 < sir_lewk> like using windows"  <== baseless troll
22:41 < _Digital> E-J, here is the E66's audio properties: http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_e66-review-274p5.php
22:41 < _Digital> And here is the same for the 5800: http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_5800_xpressmusic-review-308p6.php
22:41 < _Digital> I've never seen a response curve that good
22:44 <@chronomex> wow
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23:12 < _Digital> E-J, thanks for the suggestion of the e66, but it is almost the same price as the 5800. The 5800 has some substantial upgrades over the e66 so I'm still wondering if there is a substantial competitor to the 5800 at a lower price
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23:23 <@_Auron_> sounds like you want the 5800 :P
23:23 < _Digital> spec wise, it is really good
23:24 < _Digital> though the price is decent, I can buy new rotors and brake pads for my car for the same price
23:24 < _Digital> same for tinting the windows, or buying an Acer Aspire One, or the diagnostic hardware and software for my car
23:25 < _Digital> so its a tough sell for me
23:25 < _Digital> not to be confused with cell...
23:25 <@_Auron_> hahaha
23:28 < _Digital> http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone2=2537&idPhone1=2426
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23:39 < i_c-Y> get this, _Digital - http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/detail/detail.do?group=mobilephones&type=mobilephones&subtype=verizonwireless&model_cd=SCH-U410MSAVZW
23:41 <@_Auron_> u410?
23:41 <@_Auron_> mine's the r410 and it's completely different, also not verizon
23:41 <@_Auron_> models numbers never make sense
23:41  * bsparks sighs
23:41 < bsparks> I get a sidekick, I don't mind, but, ehh, it is free
23:45 < bsparks> and my bill increases $10 a month =/
23:45 <@_Auron_> for what
23:46 < bsparks> I went from a plan I had for my n75, 300 Mins, myFavs [ 5 free numbers to call anytime each month ], unlimited text and picture messages, and unlimited internet. To, 300 Mins, myFavs, Sidekick Unlimited Web+Messaging
23:47 < bsparks> from $64.99 to $74.99
23:48 < bsparks> oh, and the Sidekick can't tether
23:48 <@_Auron_> expensive
23:48 < bsparks> very
23:48 < bsparks> but I can't get less than 300 mins :(
23:49 <@_Auron_> I get all that plus unlimited minutes for $44.99
23:49  * _Digital shoots i_c-Y
23:49 < bsparks> _Auron_, what carrier?
23:49 <@_Auron_> metroPCS, that's why it's cheaper :P
23:49 < bsparks> also, is your unlimited web really unlimited?
23:49 <@_Auron_> yep
23:49 < bsparks> my sisters boyfriend found out Sprint's not
23:50 < bsparks> it says unlimited, everywhere on their site
23:50 <@_Auron_> neither is AT&T 'unlimited' 3G, it's actually 5GB unstated limit
23:50 < bsparks> tmobile has unlimited :)
23:50 < _Digital> traffic is the only thing I check on the phone via internet right now
23:50 <@_Auron_> unlimited net or unlimited 3g?
23:50 < bsparks> I pulled 10gb over their line in a month, from tethering, both of which I am not supposed to do, but I did it anyway
23:51 <@_Auron_> I couldn't find any info on cost or amount for 3g on t-mobile at all
23:51 < bsparks> ah, Unlimited Net, no 3g coverage in my area
23:51 < bsparks> 3g is proced the same
23:51 < bsparks> *priced
23:51 <@_Auron_> t-mobile's site and google searches tell me nothing about the price/info of 3g, other than it exists
23:52 < bsparks> I asked in store
23:52 < bsparks> because my n75 could do 3g
23:52 <@_Auron_> 3g doesn't cost more than the regular (dialup?) internet
23:52 <@_Auron_> ?
23:52 < bsparks> and they said, and I quote "If you head into a 3g area, you get 3g speeds, as long as you have an internet plan, the tzones plan is the only one that doesn't count"
23:52 < bsparks> you need to have a 3g phone though, and their 3g coverage is crap at best :(
23:53 <@_Auron_> heh I believe DFW is covered
23:53 < bsparks> the only phone that has any real issues with tmobile 3g is the iphone
23:53 <@_Auron_> er, iphone is at&t right?
23:53 < bsparks> so?
23:53 < bsparks> it's GSM
23:53 < bsparks> means it's at&t, tmobile, err... any-other-gsm-network
23:53 < bsparks> you just need to jailbreak it :D
23:54 < bsparks> or, buy an unbranded one
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23:54 <@efneTI92> [Tyler2] I no longer speak fluent dialup.
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23:54 <@_Auron_> oh :P
23:55 < bsparks> my n75 was at&t too, but, eh
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23:59 <@_Auron_> hmm....
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