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00:00 <@_Auron_> <Tari> my brother had one exam at 0800 on a sunday this semester <-- hmm, god versus education.. which will win?
00:00 < Tari> :D
00:00 <@_Auron_> ROUND 1
00:00 <@_Auron_> FIGHT
00:01  * Tari socks Ghandi in the jaw
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00:03 < Merthsoft> l
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00:08 < Nikky> I for one support the mass killing of geese.
00:08 < Nikky> They're up to no good, so eliminate them.
00:08 < Nikky> Or get rid of jets.
00:08 < Nikky> Actually, get rid of jets.
00:08 < Nikky> They're bad for the enviroment.
00:14 < Grue`> But they're bad for geese.
00:14 < Nikky> Yes, so get rid of jets.
00:14 <@chronomex> no
00:14 <@chronomex> get rid of geese
00:14 < Nikky> No.
00:14 <@chronomex> geese are evil
00:14 < Nikky> Get rid of jets.
00:14 < Nikky> Jets are eviler.
00:14 <@chronomex> they poop all over my campus!
00:15 <@chronomex> and yours too
00:15 < Nikky> chronomex: What is more evil. Geese crap, or airlines/TSA.
00:15 <@chronomex> TSA
00:15 < Grue`> Get rid of geese and jets?
00:15 <@chronomex> oh
00:15 <@chronomex> you're right
00:15 < Nikky> So we keep geese
00:15 <@chronomex> they're both evil
00:15 <@chronomex> well, TSA is avoidable
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00:15 < Nikky> TSA did that
00:15 < chronomex> but geese, well you can't really avoid that
00:15 < Nikky> they control us all
00:15 < chronomex> I know :(
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00:15 < chronomex> okay wtf
00:16 < Nikky> they hate you
00:16 < Nikky> snowcrash might have a different defitiion of flood
00:16 < Nikky> blame Grue` 
00:16 < chronomex> that's totally unfair :(
00:16 -!- mode/#tcpa [+o chronomex] by efneTI86
00:16 < Grue`> go cry emo kid
00:17 < i_c-Y> or you can kick snowcrash's ass
00:17 <@chronomex> yeah
00:18 < i_c-Y> if it makes you feel better, just ban Canada out of spite.
00:20 < Nikky> k
00:20 <@chronomex> good move
00:20 <+kirsk> first use jets to get rid geese, then get rid of jets
00:21 < i_c-Y> we
00:21 < i_c-Y> are not starting a war on geese
00:21 < i_c-Y> just because they took out a plane in an annulus of under 1000 miles of NYC.
00:23 < i_c-Y> actually, it was well under 50 miles, but still.
00:24 < i_c-Y> you know who we have to blame, chronomex ?
00:24 < i_c-Y> Canada.
00:24 <@chronomex> ...
00:24 < i_c-Y> Canada's friggin geese.
00:24 < i_c-Y> Canadian Geese.
00:24 < i_c-Y> They are the TERRORISTS at fault for this ATROCITY!
00:24 < i_c-Y> Canada's been fattening em up, ya see?
00:24 < i_c-Y> just to take out our planes
00:25 < i_c-Y> we must go after their human masters. The war on GEESE! Operation Poop FREEDOM! etc.
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00:28 <+kirsk> Divorce : Future tense of Marriage.
00:28 <+kirsk> lawl
00:33 < Speler> Eh
00:34 < sir_lewk> lol
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00:41 <@efneTI92> [TheStorm] Yes rivereye, it is time to go fishing.
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00:46 < Barrett> does someone want to send me a 32 bit version of windows solitaire?
00:46 <@chronomex> ummmm, no?
00:47 < Barrett> I have to be booted into my Vista (business) partition right now... no games.. and my windows 7 partition is 64 bit so this won't run its solitaire program
00:48 <@chronomex> awww
00:48 <@chronomex> I think there are solitaire games on the internets
00:48 <@chronomex> somewhere
00:48 < Barrett> but I like the windows one
00:48 <@chronomex> bah
00:54 < sir_lewk> bah bah bah, bah-bah-baran
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01:07 <@efneTI92> [Tyler2] I no longer speak fluent dialup.
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01:21 <@_Auron_> TIME PLOX INITIATED.
01:22 < Nikky> WHOOP WHOOP PULL UP
01:22 < Nikky> WHOOP WHOOP PULL UP
01:25  * Merthsoft pulls ups
01:26  * _Auron_ pulls nikky's finger
01:28 < Nikky> yay
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01:32 <+mtgrss111> yo! :)
01:33 < Nikky> hi
01:35 <+mtgrss111> topic of discussion? O_o
01:35 < Nikky> how much Netham45 sucks
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01:36 <+mtgrss111> oh, yeah he sucks.
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01:36 <+mtgrss111> !qurl
01:36 < Nikky> !quoteurl
01:36 <@efneTI86> http://tcpa.aardy.net/quotes/
01:36 <+mtgrss111> ah, thank you nikky
01:38 < Nikky> np love
01:39 < Nikky> http://pastebin.com/m5b32c564
01:39 < Nikky> dumbass
01:40 < Merthsoft> ah fuck this tooth
01:40 < Merthsoft> it's coming out next monday
01:40 < Merthsoft> it doesn't hurt i just hate it
01:41 <+mtgrss111> Nikky: i think i missed the point o_O
01:42 <+mtgrss111> oh, submitted review lol?
01:43 <+mtgrss111> on the inappropriate file form XD
01:43 <+mtgrss111> i JUST got that.
01:43 <@chronomex> I wouldn't approve that, even if it landed in the reviews box
01:44 <+mtgrss111> well, at least in THIS box, its funny ;)
01:45 <+mtgrss111> I should probably write another review sometime, now that school is starting to wear into my schedule comfortably again :/
01:49 < Tari> people's recommendations for cpu frequency governors are silly
01:49 < Tari> they routinely suggest ondemand
01:49 <@chronomex> I suggest pulltheplug
01:50 <@chronomex> I know, it's not exactly software
01:50 < Tari> but conservative is better for on battery
01:50 < Tari> even powertop says to switch to ondemand
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02:15 < millinao> wooo ultimate frisbee
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02:32 <+kirsk> ".. now assume the classic spoon position but move the problematic lower arm above you, under the pillow and out the other side so it's stretched over your head. You are now in the superman flying position. This has advantages. If you can't sleep you can pretend to be superman."
02:32 < Tari> guess I'll play some fallout 3 while I wait for my kernel to compile
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02:32 <@efneTI92> [Netham46] Narf!
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02:34 < sir_lewk> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSJxvi767kQ lulz
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02:34 <+Netham46> yay
02:34 <+Netham46> I'm getting 17 college credits this year
02:35 < Merthsoft> i'm getting well over 40
02:35 <+Netham46> doubtful.
02:35 < Nikky> I'm getting 48
02:36 <+kirsk> i'm getting between 0 and whatever I need to pass
02:36 <+Netham46> yea, you're actually in college too.
02:36 <+kirsk> probably 0 lulz!
02:36 < Nikky> I got 15 in high school...
02:36 < zsircusr> i got 4
02:36 < Nikky> well, I got 15 for where I ended up
02:36 < Nikky> shitty schools would have given me more
02:36 <+Netham46> I'm getting 17 this year, and I'm eligible for another 15-18 next year.
02:36 < Merthsoft> shit only 37
02:36 < Nikky> unless you get like.. 40+ coming into college, it doesn't matter
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02:36 < Merthsoft> this semester
02:36 < Merthsoft> CS 	334 	UG 	Theory of Computation 	A- 	
02:36 < Merthsoft> 4.000
02:36 < Merthsoft> 	
02:36 < Merthsoft> 14.80
02:36 < Merthsoft> 	  	  	 
02:36 < Merthsoft> CS 	401 	UG 	Computer Game Design 	A 	
02:37 < Merthsoft> 4.000
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02:37 < Nikky> fail
02:37 <+Netham46> o.O
02:37 < millinao> ask tcpa: do you find it worthwhile to take summer school on some classes
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02:38 < Merthsoft> that much was NOT supposed to copy
02:38 <+Netham46> wb, dumbass.
02:38 < Nikky> millinao: no
02:39 < Nikky> It's not worth it.
02:39 < Merthsoft> well then... 19 last semester, 18 this
02:39 < millinao> i'm thinking of taking it for math and maybe a core class
02:39 < Merthsoft> so yeah, actually under 40, but close
02:39 < Merthsoft> Netham46: :( You doubted me but not Nikky?
02:40 <+Netham46> I know, usually he's more cynical...
02:40 < Stormfone> hmm i can't decide if i like zsirc or pocketchat more
02:40 < Merthsoft> I'm older than Nikky 
02:40 < Nikky> We know.
02:40 < Nikky> I'm still cooler.
02:40 < Merthsoft> so if he's taking college classes, i am too
02:41 <+Netham46> ah, I musta confused your age with millinao's then.
02:41 <+Netham46> thought you were still in HS.
02:41 < Merthsoft> nope
02:41 < Merthsoft> Jr in college
02:41 <+Netham46> I'm a Jr in HS.
02:41 < Nikky> haha, junior
02:41 < millinao> what is nikky
02:41 < Nikky> um
02:41 < Nikky> junior
02:41 < millinao> nethams a senior in high school right
02:42 <+Netham46> ....
02:42 < Merthsoft> he JUST said he's a junior
02:42 <+Netham46> dude
02:42 < Nikky> netham is a sophomore in cow college
02:42 < millinao> oh wow
02:42 <+Netham46> I just said I'm a junior, like 2 minutes ago.
02:42 < millinao> i can't read for shit
02:42 < Stormfone> i'm a sr
02:42 <+Netham46> Nikky's a senior in clown college.
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02:42 < Nikky> yep
02:42 < millinao> you know what
02:42 < MerthFone> stomfone: i use zsirc
02:42 < millinao> !k millinao
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02:43 < MerthFone> stormfone: anything noteworthy about pocket chat?
02:44 < Stormfone> nort that i can tell
02:44 < Stormfone> not*
02:44 <+Netham46> oh fugly
02:44 <+Netham46> they want me to use web-outlook to get notifications about crap I don't care about thru the local college
02:45 < MerthFone> well then imma stick with zsirc
02:45 < Stormfone> pocketchat seems a little slower
02:46 < Stormfone> and is no longer updated
02:47 < Merthsoft> lame
02:49 < Stormfone> but they both have Some issues
02:50 < Merthsoft> i'd like one that does multiple networks
02:50 < Merthsoft> i should make one
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02:51 < Damakaru> I had a dream that I heard someone knocking at my door.  When I answered it, some dude with long hair told me he might soon be my roommate.  I woke at four PM, and I'm beginning to think that was not a dream...
02:52 < Stormfone> yes you should
02:52 <+kirsk> fuckin hippies entering your dreams
02:52 < HelDragon> lol
02:53 < Stormfone> pocketchatmey be able to do that but idk
02:54 < Stormfone> i whis there was a faster way to type :(
02:56 < Stormfone> wish*
02:56 < Damakaru> Oh, wait.  Oh, crap.  It wasn't.  I remember the dude who dropped off his Ubuntu laptop to me to fix came by and picked it up.  Damn...
02:57 < Stormfone> a bluetooth kbd would work but idk
03:01 < TheStorm> I needed a real kbd
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03:05 <+kirsk> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKGr1H18fik
03:06 <+mtgrss111> lulz
03:08 <+mtgrss111> [ ^ ' - ' ]^
03:16 < Nikky> What is that.
03:17 <+mtgrss111> um, i dunno?
03:17 < Nikky> k
03:17 <+mtgrss111> its up for interpretation, i guess.
03:17 <+mtgrss111> maybe, Stone Kirby flipping the bird?
03:19 < sir_lewk> mtgrss111: you are a madman
03:19 < sir_lewk> you know that right?
03:20 <+mtgrss111> eh, am i?
03:20 <+mtgrss111> I don't recall doing anything maddening this evening >_>
03:22 < sir_lewk> MAAAAAAADMAAAAAAN
03:23 < Damakaru> LOL at the chick that's getting flamed for complaining to the news channel about that DELL/Ubuntu laptop.
03:23 <+mtgrss111> sir_lewk: you are a madman
03:23 <+mtgrss111> you know that right?
03:23 < sir_lewk> D:
03:23 < sir_lewk> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
03:23 < sir_lewk> Damakaru: what's up with her?
03:24 -!- mtgrss111 is now known as sir_meta
03:24 < sir_lewk> did she call her news channel with the new news that she's realized she's an idiot?
03:24 <+sir_meta> oh wow.
03:24  * sir_lewk greats his fellow comrade in arms, sir_meta
03:24 < sir_lewk> greets even
03:24  * sir_meta spits out sir_lewk, having adopted his powers
03:25 < sir_lewk> lawdy
03:25 < sir_lewk> </old black woman voice>
03:25 <+sir_meta> now, if we can get a bunch of people on the channel to do the exact same thing o_O
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03:27 <+sir_meta> sir_krsk, sir_nthm, sir_andy, sir_ic-y, sir_mert, sir_nkky, sir_mnao, sir_splr =D
03:28 <+sir_meta> then we can do some sort of twisted medieval roleplay! XD
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03:28  * sir_lewk violates sir_meta with his lance
03:28 <+sir_meta> king_patz, of course :P
03:28 < sir_lewk> >_>
03:29 < Damakaru> On the same note, the reactions from the Linux/Ubuntu users disappoint me, and I see why some people would rather stick with Windows.  And I do not blame them.
03:29 <+sir_meta> maybe, if i dare say so, BrandonW stars as DragonW?
03:29 < sir_lewk> Damakaru: agreed
03:29 <+sir_meta> Damakaru: agreed
03:29 <+sir_meta> >:o
03:30  * sir_meta charges sir_lewk on his mount!
03:30 < Nikky> Windows sucks.
03:30 <+sir_meta> OMG its sir_nkky!
03:30 < sir_lewk> agreed
03:30 <+sir_meta> disagreed
03:31 < sir_lewk> disdisagreed
03:31 < Damakaru> It is just like that Turtle, Oklahoma incident.
03:31 <+patz2009> I like turtles.
03:31 <+sir_meta> sir_lewk, your disdisagreement means jack. En guarde! :P
03:32  * sir_meta skewers sir_lewk
03:32 < sir_lewk> I am slain!
03:32 < Damakaru> s:Turtle:Tuttle:
03:32 <+sir_meta> that's no fun :(
03:32  * sir_meta spawns a sir_lewk.
03:33 < sir_lewk> well maybe you should not cheapshot your opponent in the future :P
03:33 <+sir_meta> all is forgiven now :P
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03:34 <+sir_meta> sir_krisk: welcome to the fellowship :)
03:34 < Damakaru> Having fun with your multiple personalities there?
03:35 < sir_lewk> I'm telling you guys, he's a madman
03:35 <+sir_krisk> jipjip
03:35 <+sir_meta> well, i guess i DID fulfill my madness quota for this evening :P
03:36 < sir_lewk> mmm
03:36 < sir_lewk> Sandra Bullock is hot
03:36 <+sir_meta> i hope we can still be friends :3
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03:37 <+sir_meta> sir_lewk: agreed
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03:39 <+sir_meta> Bionic Showdown: The Six Million Dollar Man and the Bionic Woman   <(0_0^) *KIRBY APPROVES!*
03:41 < Spengo> it would be cool if washington, oregon, and BC became a country
03:41 < Spengo> alaska too maybe
03:42 < sir_lewk> alaska is pretty wacky, would you really want them?
03:42 < Spengo> the rest of the US sucks, same with canada :|
03:42 < Spengo> especially quebec
03:42 < sir_lewk> they are like the texas of the north
03:42 < Spengo> ...what?
03:42 < T2> OK then...
03:42 < Spengo> apart from palins they are ok
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03:42 < sir_lewk> the palins and all the other wackos hidding out up there
03:43 < Spengo> actually I know this one really cool dude who lives there, a muslim guy who used to be a social worker and now he lives up in northern alaska with a hot wife and lots of cool expensive guns
03:44 < sir_lewk> my aunt is moving to alaska
03:44 < sir_lewk> because she's crazy
03:44 < Spengo> read social worker as mercenary :P
03:45 < sir_lewk> lulz
03:46 < Spengo> they come up with all these fancy names for them these days lol P
03:46 < Spengo> mercenary sounds too evil so now they are "private military contractors" or they are doing "social work" heheh
03:46 < sir_lewk> mercs are awesome
03:47 < sir_lewk> at least they are killing for money instead of some misguided sense of patriotism
03:47 < Spengo> yeah
03:47 < Spengo> I know another guy from eastern germany who was a merc, and later joined blackwater in the US
03:47 < Spengo> fought on the christian side of things
03:48 < sir_lewk> society has been conditioned to look down on them because in general they provide little benifit for politicians and governments
03:48 < Spengo> kinda funny to think about, they might have shot at each other
03:48 < Spengo> the german guy though... he's nuts
03:48 < Spengo> always on pills
03:49 < Spengo> I think all that shooting at brown people in shithole third world countries made him a little loopy
03:49 < sir_lewk> I could see that
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03:50 <@efneTI92> [Netham46] Narf!
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03:56 < Spengo> etaonrish's nick always makes me think of "eat an orange"
03:57 < Damakaru> I think, "Ostrich."
03:58 < Spengo> eatanoringe
03:58 < sir_lewk> Spengo makes me thing of sponges
03:59 <+sir_meta> i_c-Y makes me think of Ice
03:59 <+sir_meta> ICY
03:59 <+sir_meta> ICY ICE
03:59 <+sir_meta> yeah...
03:59 <+sir_meta> >_>
04:00 < sir_lewk> i_c-Y makes me think of coca cola and babes
04:00 < Damakaru> Spengo::game/character, sir_lewk::knight, i_c-Y::heart of ice.
04:00 < sir_lewk> Damakaru weeaboo
04:00 < Spengo> Damakaru makes me think "weeaboo"
04:00 < Spengo> haha
04:00 < sir_lewk> lulz
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04:01 < Spengo> meat... great spin 111?
04:01 < Damakaru> *Japanese male, screaming:*  Da-ma-ka-RUUUUUUUUUUU!
04:02 < Spengo> wapanese
04:02 < TD-Linux> amazon's automatically-generated bundle deals make me LOL sometimes
04:02 <+mtgrss111> Spengo: mtgrss111 probably isn't suited for interpretation. Try 'metagross'
04:06 < sir_lewk> pokemans
04:07 < Spengo> pokemans?
04:08 < Spengo> http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Metagross_(Pok%C3%A9mon)
04:08 < Spengo> LOL.
04:08 < Spengo> why is it so in depth :|
04:09 < sir_lewk> because wikipedia is for tards, by tards
04:09 < Spengo> it's not even wikipedia
04:09 < Spengo> I just googled and that was the first thing
04:13 <+mtgrss111> well, the link is broken?
04:13 <+mtgrss111> hmm, im having trouble accessing that page
04:14 < Spengo> no you just fail
04:14 < Spengo> because your irc client probably doesn't like parens in a URL
04:15 <+mtgrss111> no, not even my browser wants to open bulbapedia when i googled metagross
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04:17 < Spengo> works okay for me
04:17 < Spengo> your browser just fails at non-ascii in URLs I guess
04:18 <+mtgrss111> no, the bulbapedia server isnt being recognized or something
04:18 <+mtgrss111> probably another glitch in IE8
04:18 < Damakaru> Ditto.
04:18 < Damakaru> Firefox.
04:18 < Spengo> works fine in my firefox and opera
04:19 <+mtgrss111> doesnt work in my firefox o_O
04:19 < Spengo> AND it works in IE7
04:19 <+mtgrss111> my internet service is fucked
04:19 < Damakaru> Not the browser's fault, anyway,
04:20 <+mtgrss111> its only the pokemon related sites, it seems. Serebii pulled this type of crap as well a few days ago.
04:22 <+mtgrss111> ok, bulbaGARDEN is working.
04:22 <+mtgrss111> but the bulbapedia link is screwing up O_o
04:22 <@chronomex> ... pokemon?  people still do that stuff?
04:24 <+mtgrss111> well, bulbapedia used to be one of my sources for R/B/Y mechanic-related info :(
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04:29 <@_Auron_> pokemon?
04:29 <@_Auron_> what's that?
04:29 <@_Auron_> wait.. sounds familiar....
04:29 <@_Auron_> I think I remember it, was a long time ago though. ;)
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04:37 < Damakaru> Woo, subwoofers sold.
04:38 < Damakaru> And someone has the external HD on layaway.
04:38 <@_Auron_> oy
04:39 <@_Auron_> http://www.explosm.net/comics/1528/
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04:51 <@efneTI92> [Netham46] Narf!
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04:58 <+mtgrss111> wow, none of the websites said this at all about reverting to IE7 o_O
05:02 <@chronomex> hmmm?
05:03 < Damakaru> What is "this?"
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05:16 <+mtgrss111> everyone said you had to go to programs and features, then uninstall from the list. but it wasn't there o_O
05:16 <+mtgrss111> maybe they were talking about beta 1, or maybe the OS they were talking about was XP, who knows.
05:17 <+mtgrss111> but it wasnt there :(
05:18 <+mtgrss111> eventually, i found IE8 beta 2 under a list of updates. i disabled it and restarted the machine, which appears to work.
05:18 <+mtgrss111> but i found it odd that none of the fixes mentioned this.
05:19 <+mtgrss111> it seemed to also fix the bulbapedia issue, though im not sure if that had something to do with me disabling IE8 or simply restarting.
05:26 < Damakaru> Heh, speakers are making my mouse laser go crazy.
05:34 <@_Auron_> means it's rave time
05:36 < _Digital> something is wrong
05:36 < Nikky> k
05:37 < _Digital> about 2 weeks ago my delta temps between my north bridge and CPU went up about 4-5 degrees
05:37 < _Digital> as of today that is no longer the case
05:37 < _Digital> it is strange...
05:37 < i_c-Y> tra la la la la
05:38 < i_c-Y> meh. i have to be up in 4 hours to go to school
05:38 < _Digital> nice i_c-Y
05:39 < Nikky> really
05:39 < Damakaru> Eep.  Four?  AM?!
05:39 < Nikky> you need to wake up at 4
05:39 < Nikky> i_c-Y is a liar.
05:39 < Nikky> Ignore him.
05:39 < Nikky> No better than Netham46 
05:39 < _Digital> or you
05:40 < Nikky> When do I lie?
05:40 < Tari> real men don't go to school because it's 'too cold' or some such
05:40 < _Digital> when you troll against Canon
05:41 <@Andy_J> whooo!
05:41 <@Andy_J> -4F
05:41 < Tari> -6 here
05:41 < i_c-Y> 13 F here.
05:41 <@Andy_J> with a blistering high of 7F for tomorrow
05:41 < _Digital> +63F here
05:41 < i_c-Y> 17F at my apartment
05:42 <@Andy_J> supposed to get down to -6F overnight tonight
05:42 < _Digital> supposed to be a grand fucking 84F tomorrow 
05:42 <@Andy_J> can I borrow some of that
05:42 < Tari> -21 wind chill right now
05:42 < _Digital> I'll trade with you
05:43 < Tari> wind chill tonight: -25 to -38
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05:49 < Damakaru> Multicolor LED clock + subwoofel line == amusement.
05:56 < i_c-Y> subwoofel
05:57 < Damakaru> s:el:er:
05:57 < i_c-Y> if you mean subwoofer, r and l are pretty far apart on most keyboards 
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05:58 < Tari> so what, you attached your sub to a PWM line?
05:58 < Damakaru> Not in DVORAK.
05:58 <@Andy_J> not on dvorak
05:58 < Nikky> dvorak rules
05:58 <@chronomex> Mr. Dvorak was a teacher at my school.
05:58 < _Digital> i_c-Y, I take it you are like most other #tcpa goers where you wouldn't want to add a TV show to my listing of weeklyt recordings
05:58 < Nikky> that's why it rules
05:58 <@Andy_J> john c. dvorak >_____>
06:00 <@chronomex> nope, not him
06:01 < i_c-Y> dvorak is for losers
06:02 < i_c-Y> _Digital: i dunno. a lot of shows come online these days so i just dont bother, even after i factor in how little tv i watch now (except when im at home)
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06:04 < _Digital> i_c-Y, yeah no worries. I currently have 8 of my theoretical 20 slots filed for prime time broadcasts
06:04 < i_c-Y> what shows do you have ?
06:04 < Damakaru> Too bad I don't have a whole string of LEDs to hook up.
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06:05 < i_c-Y> buy some LED tape
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06:05 < _Digital> The Big Bang theory, House, 24, NCIS, Lost, Bones, Terminator, Heroes 
06:05 < _Digital> teh last two I don't have show dates or times yet
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06:07 < i_c-Y> hm... ive heard good things about the Big Bang Theory
06:08 < i_c-Y> Scrubs, daily show, colbert report?
06:08 < _Digital> it isn't bad. I missed most all of the first season because I never got around to recording it
06:08 < _Digital> scrubs I can do. I don't have cable
06:08 < Speler> Scrubs owns
06:08 <@chronomex> hah, scrubs
06:10 < _Digital> scrubs added to the lineup
06:11 < Nikky> wow, Bush's address
06:11 < _Digital> oh, i_c-Y. buying a new more efficient PSU won't save me much juice
06:11 < Nikky> annoying to listen to with good headphones
06:11 < Nikky> BECUAW YOU HEAR HIS BREATHING
06:11 < _Digital> I only burn through about 165 watts on load
06:12 < _Digital> Becuaw?
06:12 < Nikky> because
06:12 < Nikky> asswhore
06:12 < _Digital> it is funny when Nikky types in CPAS because he cannot
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06:14 < Nikky> DIGITAL SUCKS
06:14 < _Digital> !qfind all digital
06:14 <@efneTI86> No matches
06:14 < i_c-Y> !qfind all _digital
06:14 <@efneTI86> No matches
06:14 < i_c-Y> !qfind convert
06:14 <@efneTI86> 1134:_Digital: * Ox40 is now known as _Analog | <aardvarq> !k _Analog Gotta convert #tcpa to all-_Digital by 2008.
06:15 <@efneTI86> (All of 1 match)
06:15 <@chronomex> *2009
06:16 < _Digital> yeah, the FCC is a year late
06:16 <@chronomex> if not more
06:16 < _Digital> they were supposed to do it in 2006 originally, no?
06:16 < _Digital> yeah, I heard some dumbasses want to delay it
06:16 < i_c-Y> ie obama
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06:16 < i_c-Y> Palin would have never stood for this
06:16 < i_c-Y> cause Digital is for mavericks.
06:17 < _Digital> that didn't highlight me
06:17 < _Digital> that should've highlighted me
06:17 <@chronomex> "what do you mean your teevee doesn't work?  I can see my football just fine, so shut up and stop your liberal whining"
06:17 < i_c-Y> i said Digital, not _Digital 
06:18 < _Digital> I highlight on digital though for teh lazy
06:18 < _Digital> apparently it is case sensitive
06:18 <@chronomex> that's lame
06:20 < _Digital> it is proper though
06:21 < _Digital> I'm just really happy my server is back to a 10?C delta instead of 14 or 15. It runs that much cooler :)
06:30 <@Andy_J> it was *originally* supposed to be 2001 or something
06:30 <@Andy_J> it's been delayed several times
06:31 <@Andy_J> _Digital: needs more battlestar galactica
06:35 < _Digital> well if I hook up another set of tuners to my Aunt's Condo, I can get cable and orchistrate recording there
06:36 < Damakaru> Aww, there went my clock.  :P
06:44 < Damakaru> *Bored.*
06:44  * _Digital watches one of tehrecent 4 episodes of 24 he forgot to record
06:44 < _Digital> I got one of them by fluke
06:49 < _Digital> okay. Is closed captioning sent in the same ATSC signal as the video and audio?
06:49 < Damakaru> I wonder if Toshiba will give a free or cheap upgrade to Windows Sevenv...
06:50 < Damakaru> ...when it comes oht.
06:50 < Damakaru> *out
06:50 < i_c-Y> _Digital: yes-ish.
06:50 < _Digital> define please
06:52 < i_c-Y> you have 2 closed captioning settings.  you get line 21 closed caption like back in ye old days, as well as it in the video stream.
06:53 < _Digital> how do I get a hold of the one in the video stream
06:54 < i_c-Y> your tuner should do it  automatically.
06:54 < _Digital> well afaik, I'm holding the raw stream in my hands
06:55 <@chronomex> floppy disk?
06:55 <@chronomex> that's some short video
06:56 < i_c-Y> you can probably find a tool that does it if you go on google and type in atsc mpeg2 closed captioning extract or something
06:56 < i_c-Y> http://sourceforge.net/projects/ccextractor/
06:57 < i_c-Y> i think thats what i used when i used to record scrubs. then i started watching it over the internets
06:57 < _Digital> does it support overlaying it to the video with the proper time codes?
06:58 < i_c-Y> it worked for th emost part. im pretty sure the tool i used was somewhere on sourceforge, and it gave me a srt file out i think.
06:59 < i_c-Y> and also, the avertv hd volar is only good in NYC to my knowledge - its the only place i could get reception.
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06:59 < i_c-Y> anyhow, try them out. you're on a mac, so theres probably a final cut plugin or something to do this too.
07:00 < _Digital> I'm running gentoo on the server that is doing all the HD work
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07:02 < i_c-Y> anyhow, the standards are EIA-608 and EIA-708. 608 gives you the old line21 , 708 is the one you want to focus on.
07:03 < _Digital> how the hell do you know this?
07:03 < i_c-Y> _Digital: i have a tendency to remember numbers :)
07:04 < i_c-Y> and i spent a lot of time on it last year
07:04 < _Digital> apparently
07:04 < i_c-Y> i might just buy a new tv tuner though. 
07:04 < i_c-Y> mine crashes in vista 64
07:05 < _Digital> I like the hdhomerun 
07:05 < i_c-Y> and id like ntsc too.
07:05 < _Digital> nvm then
07:05 < i_c-Y> plus im not too keen on spending over 50 bucks.
07:05 < i_c-Y> i already spend way too much on stuff.
07:06 < i_c-Y> mostly books, networking equipment, various computer thingies.
07:06 < i_c-Y> esp since i hate international editions - the paper is terrible.
07:07 < i_c-Y> seriously
07:07 < i_c-Y> the toilet paper i use is of better quality
07:07 < _Digital> hehehe
07:07 < i_c-Y> if they printed it on that, atleast it would be soft.
07:08 < i_c-Y> ive spent like probably 400+ and half my classes havent announced their textbooks.
07:08 < i_c-Y> anyhow, _Digital , some places to search for more help are doom9 forums, afterdawn forums and the videohelp.com forums.
07:09 < i_c-Y> i m going to bed now
07:09 < _Digital> doom9 is a nightmare to navigate
07:09 < i_c-Y> videohelp.com isnt bad.
07:09 < _Digital> afterdawn is worse
07:09 < i_c-Y> friendly people, lots of tools, etc.
07:09 < _Digital> I'll have a look, thanks
07:10 < i_c-Y> eventually though, when i got my tuner to work consistently in vista mce, all that work was for waste.
07:11 < _Digital> well teh HDHomeRun is netowrk based so ther eare no drivers to mess with
07:11 < i_c-Y> (vista mce is excellent - did everything out of the box perfectly though an hour of a show took 2 gig which i should have expected but was still big on a 60 gig partition with windows and other stuff on it)
07:12 < _Digital> ntsc or atsc signal?
07:12 < i_c-Y> atsc.
07:12 < i_c-Y> the tuner i bought was really cheap at the time
07:12 < i_c-Y> and i was like bleh, who cares about ntsc
07:13 < _Digital> yeah, cause a hour of atsc runs me about 6.8GB
07:13 < i_c-Y> and then i realized that i wanted ntsc too after i bought it.
07:13 < i_c-Y> actually probably was a half an hour, given that i only recorded scrubs since that was the only thing i watched because heroes sucked.
07:15 < i_c-Y> damn it, i have to start sleeping earlier.
07:16 < i_c-Y> ok, night everyone
07:16 < i_c-Y> and _Digital , you should really give Vista's MCE a shot , even if its only for a day or two
07:16 < i_c-Y> and I get to deal with the horrors of migrating windows installs over different hardware configurations.
07:17 < i_c-Y> we all win.
07:17 < i_c-Y> with my makeshift sleep + mplayer alarmclock, i shall wake up
07:17 < i_c-Y> muhahahhaa.
07:17 < _Digital> you're funny
07:18 < i_c-Y> though i might just reboot my computer to watch house 
07:18 < _Digital> I don't like having to need to do that
07:18 < i_c-Y> though i watched it for like 4 + hours yesterday
07:18 < i_c-Y> so i dont know.
07:18 < _Digital> go get some sleep so you hcan help me more tomorrow
07:18 < _Digital> ;)
07:19 < i_c-Y> ill be at school probably at 9 or 10 - have to pick someone up in the morning and blah blah blah then the commute, etc.
07:19 < i_c-Y> night
07:20 < _Digital> I still don't understand how my CPu dropped 4-5?C when I have changed absolutely nothing
07:20 < _Digital> I've had that heatsink on there for a month and a half with AS5 so it is way past the cure period
07:20 < _Digital> oh well
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08:21 < T2> Cure period wouldn't drop it 4 or 5 degrees :S
08:21 < T2> Cooler room temp?
08:21 < T2> Perhaps updated monitoring software?
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09:34 < bsparks> anyone here ever seen a pinout for a 4 conduit headphone jack, the ones that are for stereo speakers + mic
09:37 < T2> No
09:38 < bsparks> I know the back 2 are ground + mic, I think...
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10:00 < tr1p1ea> I have no idea what canadians mean when they say they're going out clubbin.
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10:37 <+sir_krisk> hoppa
10:37 < bsparks> I hate teenagers 
10:38 <+sir_krisk> yay you dont hate me
10:38 < bsparks> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9091555&type=product&id=1218020947566 is NOT WORTH 94.99!
10:38 < bsparks> but because it says iPhone people pay that much
10:39 < bsparks> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8994136&type=product&id=1218007084793 same story
10:39 <+sir_krisk> lol @ specifications
10:40 <@E-J> winter is back \o/ (without snow still, but snow will hopefully come back this week)
10:40 <@E-J> it's -7C outside
10:40 < bsparks> colder here than in finnyland?!
10:41 <+sir_krisk> last week it was -10 to 20 here
10:41 <@E-J> bsparks: http://www.fmi.fi/img/saa/hav_suomi_2009011611_1232.gif maybe in some parts
10:41 < bsparks> it's -29F here right now
10:41 <@E-J> i live in coast, so it's normally more warm here than inland
10:42 < bsparks> I live very inland lol
10:42 < bsparks> the closest body of water that affects my weather is probably the Pacific
10:43 <@E-J> how far?
10:43 < bsparks> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohio lake michigan MIGHT affect our weather, but most of that hits above where I live [ around the center of Ohio ] so, idk, 3000 miles?
10:44 <@E-J> it's less than one km to gulf of finland from there were i live
10:44 < bsparks> more than that prolly
10:44 <@E-J> bsparks: why not atlantic?
10:44 < bsparks> ah, 2,241
10:44 < bsparks> E-J, because weather goes from West to East
10:45 <@E-J> not always
10:45 < bsparks> In ohio, always
10:45 < bsparks> it SOMETIMES goes from south to north, but it is really just fronts from texas
10:45 < bsparks> the only time it would come from the atlantic is like, if a hurricane landed
10:47 < bsparks> like Hurricane Ike that hit Texas, went from Texas to Oklahoma to Kansas Missouri, Illinois, Indiania, Ohio, Michigan, a bunch of other states
10:47 < bsparks> it was the only Hurricane classed Hurricane to hit Ohio o.o
10:49 <@E-J> btw in finnish we have other etymology explanation to word "ohio": "2 cowboys go by their horses along some ground and one askes another 'are we still on pennsylvania?' and other says in finnish 'ei, se on ohijo'"
10:49 <@E-J> translation is "no, we have passed it already" or something like that
10:50 <@E-J> bsparks: we don't even have any hurricanes
10:50 <@E-J> thank god
10:51 <@E-J> there are sometimes in summer trombis but they are small
10:54 < bsparks> any winds over 100mph are not fun
10:55 <@E-J> agree (after checking on google how much mph is in m/s)
10:55 < bsparks> sorry :P
10:55 < bsparks> anyway, bed time
10:56 <@E-J> army time i was on fort island, where in some storm there was so windy that i had to lean against wind if i wanted to stay standing
10:57 <@E-J> it was only something 20m/s or 25m/s
10:57 <@E-J> (100mph is 45m/s)
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11:25 <@efneTI92> [leofox] All we do in hell is play DDR!
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11:52 <@benryves> Any recommendations for an LCD busy routine for the TI-84+?
11:52 <@benryves> (Running at 15MHz - I don't suppose that makes any difference, though).
11:59 <@E-J> nope (hello ben)
12:00 <@benryves> Oh well, have http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7826717.stm instead then.
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12:10 <@benryves> http://www.zilog.com/ <- looks like ZiLOG forgot to reregister their domain name. Whoops. :(
12:10 <@E-J> heh
12:11 <@E-J> bbc haven't yet took the fish finger episode to its pages?
12:11 <@benryves> Doesn't look like it. :(
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12:27 <@E-J> time for some tea
12:27 <@benryves> Good plan. :D
12:29 <@E-J> in other news, last finn that was born in 19th century had died
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12:39 <@E-J> http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/CommonUtils-and-the-Inadequate-javalang.aspx
12:42 <@benryves> I've seen special-case constants for 0 and 1, but that's usually in floating-point libraries where those sort of constants are useful.
12:43 <@E-J> what about that other
12:43 <@benryves> That just highlights the utter WTF of Java's int vs Integer ;)
12:44 <@benryves> At least later versions of Java introduced automatic boxing, but it's still silly.
12:46 <@E-J> http://crap.fi/?i=6884
12:53 <@E-J> http://www.crap.fi/?i=6881
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13:21 < sir_lewk> http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/01/16/0135232&from=rss
13:21 < sir_lewk> I read that headline after waking up, thought of 28 Days Later, and paniced a bit :O
13:22 < zpowers> zilog.ath.cx
13:22 < zpowers> my home box :o
13:22 <@benryves> sir_lewk: Hehe :D
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13:25 < sir_lewk> http://zilog.ath.cx is not loading for me
13:27 < Milyardo> its not on right now
13:28 < Milyardo> :P
13:28 < Milyardo> I'm putting new case fans
13:28 < sir_lewk> oh, cool
13:29 <@benryves> sir_lewk: Har har har.
13:29  * sir_lewk *facepalm*
13:29 < sir_lewk> unintentional pun!  I swear!
13:29 < sir_lewk> I've been living with my grandfather too long... >_>
13:30 <@benryves> Is he a fan of the pun?
13:30 < sir_lewk> like no other
13:30 < sir_lewk> every other word he says
13:31 < Milyardo> apperently like you sir_lewk 
13:31 <@benryves> sir_lewk: Oh well, better than double entendres at least,
13:31 < sir_lewk> and he's a CS prof so now he's started doing "byte" "word" and "nibble" puns around me >.<
13:33 < sir_lewk> alright, gotta go to work
13:33 <@benryves> Enjoy :(
13:34 < sir_lewk> ya :-/
13:34 < sir_lewk> friday at least
13:34 <@benryves> Yeah, there is that. :D
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13:52 <@E-J> http://deceptivecadence.wordpress.com/2009/01/16/stockmann-sells-sm-porn-for-kids/
13:53 <@E-J> last few days
13:53 <@E-J> finland++
13:58 <@E-J> that page has good comments, "2000 piece puzzle for kids? You.ve got to be kidding." "But it IS S/M porn."
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14:16 < sir_lewk> lol, it's a S/M puzzle?
14:17 < sir_lewk> that's pretty awesome, at least they need to work for their porn :P
14:22 <@benryves> sir_lewk: Oh, an exciting twist (?) for you; looks like people running Windows are the ones who can't open .chms. ;)
14:34 < sir_lewk> lol :)
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14:36 <@benryves> Some apps (eg Internet Explorer and Firefox) set a "this file came from the big bad Internets" flag on the zip file, which is copied to extracted files if you use the built-in unzipper. Without "unblocking" the file the CHM viewer can't access the contents of the file properly, so the documentation shows up as "Navigation Cancelled" errors.
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14:37 < sir_lewk> hmm, well it's nice that they are marking stuff as downloaded for windows people at least
14:37 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Netham46] by efneTI92
14:37 < sir_lewk> I've decided I'm a fan of just gzipped html
14:38 <@benryves> For documentation?
14:38 < sir_lewk> xml documentation would be the best though, let the user render it whoever they want
14:38 < sir_lewk> yeah
14:38 < sir_lewk> *however
14:38 <@benryves> I hacked http://www.benryves.com/bin/bbcbasic/manual/ together quickly with a few changes to my CHM-creation code.
14:39 < sir_lewk> *nix people could generate manpages from it, windows people could render in in a browser or make chms I guess
14:39 <@benryves> Not sure how you'd include images, though.
14:40 < sir_lewk> yeah, images would be left out of manpages I guess
14:40 < sir_lewk> hmm, that's pretty nice
14:40 < sir_lewk> the manual webpage
14:41 <@benryves> It's a bit glitchy in places http://www.benryves.com/bin/bbcbasic/manual/Appendix_FPP.htm - nice list under "Exception Handling" ;)
14:41 < sir_lewk> oh, heh
14:42 < sir_lewk> did something get escaped or something?
14:42 <@benryves> (Originates from MediaWiki).
14:42 < sir_lewk> ah
14:42 <@benryves> "Details of FPP operations" looks messed up too (bold text for some reason).
14:43 <@benryves> I'm sad I couldn't make the address of the FPP function &8087, though.
14:44 <@mokomull> hah
14:45 < Milyardo> E-J: Only the first image could be considered S&M porn
14:45 < Milyardo> The rest are just boring old nudity
14:45 < Milyardo> Got me all excited for nothing
14:47 < sir_lewk> haha
14:48 < sir_lewk> "<@benryves> "Details of FPP operations" looks messed up too (bold text for some reason)."  That part looks fine to me
14:48 < sir_lewk> as rendered with Arora(webkit) at least
14:49 <@mokomull> benryves: I'm disappointed that you are not IEEE 754 compliant :)
14:49 <@benryves> mokomull: Heh, not my code. ;)
14:50 < sir_lewk> http://www.benryves.com/products/crates3d  oh man, I loved that game on the 83+ sooo much :D
14:51 <@benryves> sir_lewk: It's a bug in the converter that is stuffing some documentation inside the table but outside a cell, which tends to make browsers choke in interesting and bizarre ways.
14:51 < sir_lewk> oh, hmm
14:52 < sir_lewk> is that what http://www.cs.drexel.edu/~jlg95/index-crash.html (crashes IE) is doing you think?
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14:53 < ports-> no
14:53 <@benryves> sir_lewk: 37 STR$ is to blame, FWIW.
14:53 < sir_lewk> oh, gotcha
14:54 <@benryves> sir_lewk: No idea, that just makes IE lock up at 100% CPU usage.
14:54 < sir_lewk> hmm, weird
14:54 <+T2> Maybe it's an easter egg from our friends at Microsoft?
14:54 <@benryves> sir_lewk: Another fun CHM feature is that even with IE 8 installed the CHM viewer seems stuck with the IE 7 renderer.
14:55 < sir_lewk> lol, dunno.  I just found that snippet of HTML in a post on slashdot
14:55 < sir_lewk> weird
14:55 < sir_lewk> what are you putting in CHM files that needs that new of a browser to render properly though?
14:55 < TheStorm> that is odd, but that code still crashes IE8 IIRC
14:56 <@benryves> sir_lewk: Oh, you know, tables.
14:56 < sir_lewk> can CHM files even do javascript?
14:56 < sir_lewk> O.o oh
14:56 <@benryves> sir_lewk: IE 7 has weird bugs with aligning text in colspan-ed cells.
14:56 <@benryves> And yes, CHMs can do JavaScript.
14:56 < sir_lewk> cool
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14:57 < sir_lewk> this is why I avoid webdev though.  too many exceptions and rules to remember >.>
14:58 < sir_lewk> old stuff is easy :)
14:58 <@benryves> Quite. And people are loathe to update their browsers.
14:58 < sir_lewk> yeah, that bugs me too
14:58 <@benryves> It's all very well for Microsoft to release IE 8, which actually works pretty damned well, but it'll be another five years until you can start relying on people using it.
14:59 < sir_lewk> my hometown schooldistrict is still using IE6
14:59 < sir_lewk> is IE8 fully released now?
14:59 <@benryves> Nope, still in beta 2.
14:59 < sir_lewk> ah
14:59 <+T2> Still not as good as other browsers
15:00 < sir_lewk> meh, firefox has gone down the shitter imho (emphasise on the 'o', don't need a flamewar this early ;))
15:00 < sir_lewk> I've been using konqueror and arora as my main browsers, firefox for youtube and the gmail/chat thing
15:00 <@benryves> T2: In terms of standards, no, but at least it passes Acid2. ;)
15:01 <+T2> Ya, FF is taking a tumble, its becoming a slow giant
15:01 < sir_lewk> it's come full circle, back to mozilla ;)
15:02 <+T2> Mind you 3.1 is quite a bit faster than 3.0
15:02 < TheStorm> meh I don't really notice a difference except on slower comp's 
15:02 < sir_lewk> seamonkey isn't all that bad last time I looked at it though
15:02 < sir_lewk> hmm, I'm on 3.0.5 right now
15:02 < TheStorm> I just wish they would update ThunderBird already
15:03 <+T2> I'm gonna have to stick with FF though, Opera/Safari/Chrome have icky interfaces in my honest opinion
15:03 <@benryves> Well, if you don't like Opera it's no surprise you don't like Chrome's rip-off interface. ;)
15:03 < sir_lewk> hmm, my copy of Arora is a bit out of date too, 4.0 instead of 4.2
15:04 < TheStorm> Benryve yeah I noticed the similarity
15:04 <@benryves> Can you put the address bar in the correct place in Firefox? Something that bothers me with IE too. :(
15:04  * sir_lewk quick pulls arora from git :)
15:05 <+T2> I also noticed by default on 3.1b2 of FF that the tab bar is visible with only one tab open
15:05 <@benryves> T2: Oh, thank goodness they fixed that. :D
15:05 <+T2> Meaning more unnecessary browsing space being peeled away from me
15:06 <+Netham46> get a bigger screen.
15:06  * benryves dislikes the inconsistent now-you-see-it-now-you-don't default of hiding the tab bar in Firefox.
15:06 <+T2> I have a bigger screen
15:06  * Netham46 dislikes Firefox.
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15:07 < TheStorm> I agree with benryves  on that one
15:08 < tifreak> 'lo gents
15:08 < i_c-Y> benryves: solution: use opera
15:08 <@benryves> i_c-Y: I do use Opera, and consider it the pinnacle of good UI design.
15:08 < i_c-Y> have friends that dont use opera?
15:09 < i_c-Y> well, maybe they shouldnt be your 'friends' anymore.
15:09 <@benryves> Heh, I only use Firefox to test websites in.
15:09 < i_c-Y> pssh
15:09 < i_c-Y> you gotta test IE (well theres ietab for that) and opera and safari and opera
15:09 < i_c-Y> you have to assume superior people will come to your website
15:09 < i_c-Y> hence the need to test opera.
15:10 <@benryves> Meh, I develop everything in Opera first, tweak for IE, then (if I'm feeling generous) test in Firefox.
15:10 <@benryves> Usually if it's works in Opera and IE it should also work in Firefox, though.
15:11 <+Netham46> !t Welcome to TCPA | http://tcpa.calcg.org | http://www.junemann.nl/maxcoderz/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=2736 | 4 days
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15:11 <@benryves> Four days?
15:11 < i_c-Y> till he dies
15:11 <+Netham46> yup.
15:11 <+Netham46> 4 days 'til Obama comes.
15:12 <@E-J> to your home?
15:12 <+Netham46> no, 'til he becomes president.
15:12 <@benryves> I thought he already was?
15:12 < i_c-Y> inaguration.
15:12 < sir_lewk> "president-elect"
15:13 <@benryves> sir_lewk: What a mouthful.
15:13 < sir_lewk> he was elected, now power needs to be changed over
15:13 < i_c-Y> bush gave his farewell speech yesterday, Obama is president on tuesday.
15:13 < sir_lewk> yeah, I dislike the term too :-/
15:13 <@benryves> i_c-Y: And inbetween - run riot?
15:13 < sir_lewk> no, bush is still president techincally
15:13 < sir_lewk> he'll probably pardon a shitton of guys the last day,  they always do
15:14 < sir_lewk> besides that, he's done
15:14 < i_c-Y> who were clinton's last pardons? i believe the very last one was Patty Hearst.
15:15 < sir_lewk> I think so
15:15 <@E-J> you have to understand ben, in his country, oldest living child of the leader becomes new leader immediatelly after leader dies
15:15 < sir_lewk> well, I think that's more of a cermomonial position nowadays
15:16 < sir_lewk> their parliment system has all sorts of weird quirks to us americans too of course :)
15:16 <@benryves> E-J: Or not, as the case may be.
15:16 <@E-J> benryves: yeah, i know that some people want that charles's son is next king
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15:17 < Ox40Work> So, this should be easy enough...
15:17 <@E-J> sir_lewk: well you have to understand me why i don't think usa is democratic country when there is only 2 parties
15:18 < sir_lewk> oh this sounds juicy: http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/01/16/1342211&from=rss
15:18 < sir_lewk> E-J: agreed, 2 parties is idiotic
15:18 <@E-J> and bicameral parliament
15:18 <@benryves> E-J: Heh, the monarchy has no power.
15:18 < Ox40Work> I want to rewrite http://foo.com/admin/Orders/234890234 to http://foo.com/admin/index.php?tab=AdminOrders&token=234890234
15:18 <@E-J> benryves: i know, i just tried to make a joke
15:21 <@E-J> Ox40Work: "sorry, page not found" in both
15:22 <@benryves> Ox40Work: IIS or Apache?
15:23 <@benryves> http://www.codeplex.com/IIRF/ for the former, mod_rewrite for the latter.
15:24 < Ox40Work> apache
15:24 < Ox40Work> I know I have to use mod_rewrite...
15:24 < Ox40Work> I just suck at the expressions
15:25 <@benryves> How irregular.
15:25 < Ox40Work> basically, I want to take /Orders/foo,bar/oop,soo/blar,foo/ to index.php?tab=AdminOrders&foo=bar&oop=soo&blar=foo
15:27 <@benryves> RewriteRule ^/?admin/Orders/(\d+)/?$ /admin/index.php?tab=AdminOrders&token=$1
15:27 <@benryves> (Completely untested, but you get the general idea). ;)
15:28 < sir_lewk> you know what grinds my gears?
15:29 <@benryves> Circus midgets?
15:29 < sir_lewk> ubuntu users who dismiss debian as "just for servers" without having any actual experiance with it
15:29 <@mokomull> sir_lewk: People do that?
15:29 < sir_lewk> yeah
15:29 < sir_lewk> about %50 of the comments on http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/01/16/1342211&from=rss
15:29 <@mokomull> Maybe I am just deaf to it since I used Debian first, and I hang out with real geeks.
15:30 < Tari> or they're mostly ubuntards
15:30 < sir_lewk> I'm not a fan of either ubuntu or debian, but debian makes a just fine desktop distro
15:30 < sir_lewk> Tari: they are ubuntards for sure
15:30 <@benryves> Tari: Something about if you make a Linux distro for idiots, only idiots want to use it? :P
15:31 <@mokomull> benryves: hey now
15:31 <@benryves> mokomull: Heh. :P
15:31 < Tari> full disclosure: my mythtv box runs ubuntu
15:31 < sir_lewk> it's *almost* as bad as ubuntu/debain users who trash fedora because it uses RPM for it's packaging system ;P
15:32 < sir_lewk> `yum install apt-get` ...
15:32 <@E-J> benryves: ubuntu is directed to same users that use windows :)
15:32 < Tari> but that's because I want that to be low-maintenance
15:32 <@benryves> E-J: Heh, indeed.
15:32 <@mokomull> sir_lewk: Last time I used RedHat/Fedora, I installed it right about the same time all the apt repositories for it closed for political bullshit.
15:32 <@mokomull> And even using apt-get on RedHat still uses RPM.
15:32 < sir_lewk> yes, thats true
15:33 <@E-J> i started my linux career with redhat 5.2 or something like that, compare to that, ubuntu (well i use kubuntu) is very easy to use and install
15:33 <@E-J> even windowstards can install it
15:33 < sir_lewk> but the RPM subsystem doesn't have to be touched by your average user
15:33 <@mokomull> Indeed.
15:33 <@E-J> but i think most (except maybe gentoo) are like that today
15:33 < ports-> lulz
15:33 < ports-> http://leasticoulddo.com/comic/20090115
15:33  * mokomull reads up on Perl
15:34 < sir_lewk> I've met *several* ubuntu users in real life that had no idea fedora has a package manager, thought you had to wget random RPMs and do `rpm -i ...` for everything
15:34 < sir_lewk> poor marketing on fedora's part perhaps, but still really annoying
15:34 <@mokomull> sir_lewk: Okay, really now?  I don't even USE RH/F and I know yum exists ... wow
15:34 < sir_lewk> yeah
15:35 < TheStorm> Meh I know little or nothing about fedora but thats because I've never used it 
15:35 <@mokomull> I know it sucks, because I have used it :P
15:35 < sir_lewk> it works for me, I like it
15:35 < sir_lewk> nice and transparent like debian (unlike ubuntu imho...), but with some differences
15:35 <@mokomull> [no, seriously, though ... I think it's a really nice testing distribution for RHEL and all, and I don't feel compelled to run my computer on shit RedHat hasn't even decided whether or not it works]
15:36 < sir_lewk> heh, it is rather bleeding edge sometimes
15:36 <@E-J> when we did usb stick linux system for our purposes at summer at work, i noticed that fedora has nice usb stick installing software for windows
15:36 < sir_lewk> enough to cut rather often
15:36 <@E-J> our linux was of course debian
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15:36 <@efneTI92> [Tari_] Remember, remember the 5th of November
15:37 < sir_lewk> yeah, fedora does nice USB stick stuff, I think ubuntu adopted that utility too recently
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15:37 <@E-J> https://fedorahosted.org/liveusb-creator/
15:37 <+T2> I used that just last night
15:37 <+T2> Good program
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15:38 < sir_lewk> yups
15:38 < ports-> doing data entry without a numberpad sucks
15:38 <@E-J> with that we could have even benryves to have linux
15:38 < ports-> it makes baby jesus cry in fact
15:38 < sir_lewk> lol :P
15:38 <@benryves> E-J: VirtualPC.
15:38 <+Netham46> I'm all bored. :(
15:38 < sir_lewk> I'm sure benryves is perfectly technically capable of using linux, if he wanted too :P
15:39 <@benryves> That said, Mono now offer a SUSE-based Live CD for testing, making life even easier.
15:39 < sir_lewk> ah, cool
15:40 < sir_lewk> I've heard third-hand that Gnome is going to a lot of C# mono stuff
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15:42 <@benryves> Unity uses Mono, which is pretty cool.
15:42 <+T2> VMware is pretty neat... beats compiling on my laptop :S
15:42 < sir_lewk> cross compiling something?
15:42 <@benryves> C#/JScript.NET/IronPython on the iPhone and Wii, nifty. ;)
15:43 <+T2> Building RPMs for RHEL
15:43 < sir_lewk> ah, cool
15:43 <@benryves> I'm unimpressed with VMWare, though that's maybe as I've only tried VMWare Server which hard-locks on Core 2s. :(
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15:44 < Tari__> virtualbox is pretty nice
15:44 < sir_lewk> I've only used Vmplayer for some stuff
15:44 < Tari__> especially 2.0
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15:44 <+T2> Works pretty well, considering everything works with my bleeding hardware
15:44 <+T2> Um
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15:44 <+T2> I'm using a Core 2 Quad with Workstation
15:44 < sir_lewk> I've played around with qemu a bit,  it's too technically for me to really learn how to use properly though
15:45 <+T2> Too slow...
15:45 <@benryves> Virtual PC "just works" (and is fast), sadly the hardware it emulates is ancient.
15:45 < sir_lewk> supposely it isn't bad with kqemu
15:45 < sir_lewk> dunno though
15:46 < sir_lewk> I should make some sort of irssi marco for "dunno though"...
15:46 < sir_lewk> I use that much to often.  Same thing with "...".
15:46 < sir_lewk> and ">.>"
15:46 < i_c-Y> vmware 6.5 is interesting, benryves 
15:46 < i_c-Y> you might want to try it.
15:47 <@benryves> i_c-Y: Is there just some software that is a). free and b). you just download and it works? :P
15:47 < i_c-Y> virtualbox?
15:47 < i_c-Y> for virtualization it "just works"
15:47 < i_c-Y> atleast if the host OS is windows.
15:47 <@benryves> i_c-Y: From VMWare. There are a proliferation of different versions.
15:47 < i_c-Y> oh
15:47 < i_c-Y> vmware workstation 6.5
15:47 <@benryves> "try free for 30 days"
15:48 <+T2> My license gave me 33 days :S
15:48 < i_c-Y> yeah. then people generally buy it or pirate it
15:48 < i_c-Y> vmware give syou better hardware
15:48 <@Andy_J> the player is free, isn't it? but it kind of locks you in to pre-made images
15:48 <@benryves> i_c-Y: VMware server is at least (was at least?) free.
15:48 < i_c-Y> yeah. 
15:48 <+T2> Ya, I think only vmware allows me to run a 64-bit OS on Vista 64
15:48 < i_c-Y> the player is free.
15:48 < i_c-Y> no it doesnt, T2 
15:49 < sir_lewk> is virtualbox still limited in it's virtual network options?
15:49 < Tari> virtualbox can too, now
15:49 < i_c-Y> if it does, you're doing it horribly wrong.
15:49 < i_c-Y> sir_lewk: define limited.
15:49 <@Andy_J> i_c-Y: you sure you didn't read that as "vmware only" instead of "only vmware"?
15:50 < i_c-Y> oh. you're right on the reading.
15:50 < sir_lewk> vmplayer does bridged, NAT, host only, and some custom stuff
15:50 < i_c-Y> anyhow, his statement is still wrong as virtualbox does it too
15:50 < sir_lewk> last I heard virtualbox only did NAT or something
15:50 < sir_lewk> not as capable anyways
15:50 < i_c-Y> well you clearly havent been paying attention
15:50 < sir_lewk> no I haven't
15:50 <@mokomull> sir_lewk: At least in Linux, you can link a Virtualbox machine with a host interface
15:50 < tifreak> its sir_lewk, enough said..
15:50 < tifreak> =p
15:51 <@mokomull> And you can make tun/tap interfaces and bridge them and shit, which gives you a great deal of control
15:51 < i_c-Y> you can do it in windows too
15:51 < sir_lewk> I only ask because at work I use vmplayer for several images and a relatively complex virtual network setup
15:51  * sir_lewk huggles tifreak
15:51  * mokomull uses Virtualbox with a relatively complex virtual network setup at home
15:51 <@benryves> sir_lewk: Can you map an emulated parallel port to a custom address on the host?
15:52  * Ox40Work huggles /me
15:52 <@benryves> Microsoft removed that feature from Virtual PC when they took over its development from Connectix. :(
15:52 < sir_lewk> I don't even know how to do emulated parallel ports :S
15:52 <@mokomull> T2: I think Microsoft's HyperV can do 64-on-64 too.
15:53 < sir_lewk> I didn't set up these virtual machines, I just use them
15:53 <@Andy_J> So it's almost 11 AM, and the sun has been up for a few hours, and it's still only -8F outside
15:53 <@mokomull> sir_lewk: Ah, then yeah that's a reason to use vmware player :P
15:53 <@Andy_J> We rarely get minus signs.
15:53 <@benryves> sir_lewk: Oh, heh. Lots of software is hard-coded to the legacy address 0x378, my port is at 0xCCD8. Virtualisation may be one option to get around this problem.
15:53 <@mokomull> Andy_J: heh it's like 40-ish here
15:54 < sir_lewk> ok, quicky programming question anyone?  not language specific, just logic
15:54 <+T2> Wow, and its 41 here
15:54 <@mokomull> benryves: 0xCCD8 in IO-port address space?
15:54 < sir_lewk> need a bit of help fleshing out an algorithm
15:54 <@mokomull> That's some weird hardware you got goin' there
15:54 <@benryves> mokomull: It's this wonderful thing called PCI.
15:54 <@mokomull> sir_lewk: Okay, I'm game for that.
15:55 <@mokomull> benryves: Well, I mean, most add-on cards use 0x378 or 3F8 themselves ...
15:55 < sir_lewk> I want to create a random web of relationships between about 75-100 different nodes (each node is a "planet" and the relationships are which you can travel from and too)
15:55 < Tari> hehe @mokomull-09:52
15:55 < Tari> 64-on-64 action!
15:55 <@benryves> mokomull: Only on the ISA bus, and if your machine is new enough to not have a parallel port, the chances of it having an ISA slot is even slimmer.
15:55 < ports-> where
15:55 < sir_lewk> each node should have at least 1 connection, some would have several
15:56 < sir_lewk> anybody have any ideas how to set that up?
15:56 <@mokomull> benryves: I didn't know the IO address space was limited by which bus you were attached to, but okay
15:56 <@mokomull> I guess most PCI devices nowadays do PNP to figure out where they're supposed to go, though
15:56 < sir_lewk> in a way that doesn't create two webs would be nice :S
15:56 <@mokomull> sir_lewk: What you need is a little bit of graph theory :)
15:57 <@benryves> mokomull: Sorry, I should have said the port address is decided by Windows.
15:57 <@Andy_J> sir_lewk: easy (though potentially infinite runtime) way would to randomly pick a node, make sure it doesn't have too many links, randomly pick another note, make sure it isn't the first node, and connect them
15:57 < TheStorm> Yeah I wish newer comps had ISA, I have so many ISA cards around here just going to waist
15:57 <@Andy_J> do that until every node has at least one link AND it's a fully connected graph
15:57 <@mokomull> benryves: Ah, yes, that makes far more sense.  However, Windows should still let you use LPT1: or something for that though :P
15:57 <@Andy_J> just hope your RNG doesn't suck :)
15:58 <@benryves> mokomull: As far as I know there is no practical way under desktop Windows to enumerate parallel ports.
15:58 <@mokomull> hm, sir_lewk ... I seemed to have missed the word "random" ... Andy_J's way seems relatively reasonable
15:58 < sir_lewk> I was thinking about looping down the vector of nodes, connecting them to one other random node.  each pass would half the chance of a connection being formed bewteen any two nodes
15:58 <@mokomull> Pick two random nodes, make an edge
15:59 <@mokomull> It may be hard to guarantee that the graph is well-connected, but ...
15:59 <@Andy_J> the problem is if your RNG sucks you might never make a link to a node
15:59 <@Andy_J> and you just got yourself O(oo)
16:00 <@mokomull> Andy_J: ?
16:00 < sir_lewk> well the first pass would be a 100% chance of forming edges, next time %50, 25%, then so on for an finite number of times
16:00 <@E-J> Andy_J: and better would be O(O_o)
16:01 <@Andy_J> I think the percentages would be higher than that
16:01 < sir_lewk> I'll try implementing this, see what kinds of results I get.
16:05 <@mokomull> sir_lewk: Alternately, you could start with a complete graph, and take away nodes while checking that all nodes are still reachable
16:06 <@mokomull> take away edges*
16:06 < sir_lewk> oh, that's a really good idea
16:06 < sir_lewk> just some recursive fill routine could make sure that they are all still in one web
16:07 <@mokomull> I'm not saying "checking that all nodes are still reachable" is a very *cheap* operation
16:07 < sir_lewk> yeah
16:07 <@mokomull> On 75-100 nodes, it shouldn't be too bad.
16:08 <@Andy_J> or any BFS or DFS ...
16:08 < sir_lewk> well, this is only going to be done *once* when you start a new game, it'd be reasonibly to expect "generating a universe" to take a minute
16:08 < Nikky> here's some classic kofler right here: "Lionel's the ass who's forking my project"
16:08 <@Andy_J> ugh.
16:08 < sir_lewk> course you left out the rest of that statement ;)
16:09 <@Andy_J> He doesn't understand the point of forking, and that you can't prevent it on OSS -_-
16:09 <@Andy_J> sir_lewk: pft, who needs context
16:09 < Nikky> because it's not needed
16:09 < sir_lewk> "Lionel's the ass who's forking my project and wrongly accusing me of sabotage."
16:10 < Nikky> the last part isn't relevant
16:10 <@Andy_J> That doesn't make it any different, sir_lewk 
16:10 < Nikky> exactly
16:10 < Nikky> http://tigcc.ticalc.org/gcc4tifaq.html
16:10 < Nikky> Classic!
16:10 < sir_lewk> sounds too me like the "ass" part is refering to the "wrongly accusing" part
16:10 < Nikky> "non-portability. VTI only supports M$ Window$."
16:10 < sir_lewk> anyways
16:11  * sir_lewk goes back to work
16:12 <@E-J> it's nice that people make wars from things like calculator software
16:13 < i_c-Y> jeez - he made a FAQ page?
16:13 <@Andy_J> What a fucking douchecock.
16:14 <@mokomull> Andy_J: You win the Colorful Insult of the Day award
16:17 < sir_lewk> http://rafb.net/p/f6lVcz54.html
16:18 < sir_lewk> Check out that beauty :D
16:18 < sir_lewk> tenatively I think this works perfect, I'm not sure how connected it is though
16:18 <@E-J> sir_lewk: isn't rand() some number between 0 and 1
16:19 < sir_lewk> no, it's from 0 to RAND_MAX
16:19 < sir_lewk> (very large number)
16:19 < sir_lewk> MAX_INT I think...
16:19 <@mokomull> RAND_MAX is usually near-enough MAX_INT
16:19 <@E-J> ach
16:19 <@mokomull> depending on the RNG implementation
16:20 <@mokomull> sir_lewk: btw, that is actually a not quite perfect way of doing it
16:20 < sir_lewk> http://rafb.net/p/npfeT263.html here's a web it generated
16:20 < sir_lewk> mokomull: oh?
16:20 < sir_lewk> I just really need something that seems good from a gameplay standpoint
16:21 <@mokomull> rand() % X prefers the values 0 through RAND_MAX % X slightly more than the ones between RAND_MAX % X and X
16:21 < sir_lewk> ah, yeah
16:21 <@mokomull> but ... the difference in probability is  X / RAND_MAX
16:21 < i_c-Y> an erdos renyi graph is what you're going for?
16:22 <@benryves> rand() % n is generally frowned upon, isn't it?
16:22 <@benryves> (Uneven distribution)
16:22 < sir_lewk> I'm probably going to implement DnD notation for random numbers for combat with a proper RNG at somepoint, this works well enough for now though
16:22 < i_c-Y> actually , you're not going for that.
16:22 <@mokomull> benryves: But it's so eaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazy so everyone does it
16:22 <@mokomull> :)
16:23 < sir_lewk> it's "good enough for government work"
16:23 < sir_lewk> :P
16:23 <@mokomull> sir_lewk: I notice you seem to be using an adjancecy list to store your graphs, which might get slow later on depending on what you end up doing with said graph
16:23 < sir_lewk> not much, each world has a vector of other worlds you can travel too
16:23 < sir_lewk> that's about it
16:23 <@mokomull> sir_lewk: Funny you say that, my STAT prof used that phrase a lot :)
16:24 < sir_lewk> my dad works for the government, it's his favorite saying :D
16:24 <@mokomull> sir_lewk: You also don't seem to check to see if the nodes are already connected
16:24 < sir_lewk> size of the vector for each world will also be used to determine how aligned to the empire or rebels it is
16:25 < sir_lewk> yeah, shouldn't matter *too* much though
16:25 <@mokomull> Which doubled edges would fuck up :)
16:25 < sir_lewk> it'll also connect nodes to themselves at this point ;)
16:25 <@mokomull> point.
16:27 < sir_lewk> multiple connections between two planets could actually be used to indicate strong trading relationships
16:27 < sir_lewk> looking at it real quick, doesn't look like that actually happened though
16:28 < sir_lewk> http://rafb.net/p/g4KX3218.html full code
16:29 < sir_lewk> mm, upping it to 100 nodes looks even better
16:31 < sir_lewk> hmm, it's skipping some nodes sometimes
16:31 < sir_lewk> oh, duh
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16:40 < sir_lewk> ahha, recursion fail
16:41 <@_Auron_> huh, it's 28F outside and it's almost noon
16:41 <@_Auron_> interesting.
16:41 <@_Auron_> that's what, the third time this winter it's gotten below freezing?
16:41  * _Auron_ pokes texas with a stick
16:43 <+kirsk> "Call me old-fashioned, call me Puritan, call me an over-sensitive schnoopie whoopie, but I think selling your daughter for lunch meat and some beverage, regardless of how refreshing, is plain wrong. It just ain't what a man does. "
16:44 < sir_lewk> hahaha
16:44 < sir_lewk> that sounds like a line ouf of a tarantino movie or something
16:44 <+kirsk> http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sex_news_sports_funny_grok/sell_your_daughter_for_lunchmeat
16:45 <+kirsk> "black is timeless. It demonstrates class with just a hint of formality, plus it has a wonderfully slimming effect.
16:45 <+kirsk> But instinctually, I know that wearing mantyhose just ain't manly."
16:46 < sir_lewk> lulz
16:46 < sir_lewk> F'in perfect!
16:46 < sir_lewk> http://www.cs.drexel.edu/~jlg95/stuff/web.cpp
16:46 < sir_lewk> hits every node
16:47 < sir_lewk> mmn, uncomment that part in the middle to see the web
16:47 < sir_lewk> or `./a.out | sort | uniq | wc -l`  equals 100 every time I've tried it
16:49 < sir_lewk> kinda favors empirical worlds instead of rebel worlds, but oh well
16:51 <@Andy_J> that would make sense
16:54 < sir_lewk> yeah
16:55 < sir_lewk> I'll just adjust for that a bit, allow for some well connected rebels
16:55 < sir_lewk> actually, screw that
16:55 < sir_lewk> rebels should be outnumbered
16:55 < sir_lewk> duh
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18:00 < Tari> GRUB2 is snazzy
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18:07 < Tari> yay
18:07 < Tari> 915resolution in GRUB is working
18:07 < Tari> now to recompile my kernel with intelfb
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18:08 <@benryves> If anyone here is alive with IE 7 installed, does it detect any feeds on http://www.junemann.nl/maxcoderz/ ?
18:08 < Damakaru> Merthsoft:  Sent.
18:09 < Tari> yeah, it shows a feed, benryves 
18:09 <@benryves> Tari: Cheers. :D Bug in IE 8, then.
18:11 < Merthsoft> Damakaru: Sweet
18:11 < Merthsoft> Problem, though.
18:12 < Merthsoft> I only got piad 100 today when i should've been paid 400...
18:12 < Merthsoft> when i get it straightened out i can send mine. sorry :/
18:12 < Damakaru> N/P.
18:12 < Merthsoft> hi benryves 
18:12 <@benryves> Bye, Merthsoft. :(
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18:12 < Merthsoft> haha lame
18:15 < tifreak> lol
18:15 < tifreak> blech >.<
18:15 < tifreak> got a truck to run.. lots of crap came out of the exhaust >.<
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18:17 < tifreak> blasted thing is just dumping fuel.. <_<
18:17 < tifreak> *goes to diagnose*
18:18  * Merthsoft diagnoses tifreak 
18:18 < tifreak> nothin there
18:18 < tifreak> I took it all out already
18:18 < tifreak> and tossed it in the freezer
18:18 < tifreak> =]
18:19 < tifreak> just in case I feel like trying to put me back together again
18:50 -!- Netsplit hub.dk <-> irc.efnet.pl quits: seidior, Tari, tr1p1ea
18:51 < Ox40Work> Glow Plugs!!!!!
18:51 < Ox40Work> *glows*
18:51 <+kirsk> glow sticks
18:54 < Nikky> Haha, diesel
18:54 < Nikky> failsauce
18:55 < tifreak> diesels are epicsauce =p
18:55 < tifreak> POWAR
18:55 < Merthsoft> i have crazy glue on my fingers
18:56 < tifreak> then you must be crazy
18:56 < Merthsoft> O_o
18:56 < Merthsoft> oh noes
18:56 < tifreak> =D
18:56 < tifreak> Watch out though.. Nikky likes crazy people
18:56 < Nikky> Truel
18:57 < tifreak> loves to lick'em for some reason.. Nikky, do crazy people taste different than normal people?
18:57 < Nikky> yes
18:59 <+kirsk> diesels are made of torque and slow
19:02 < tifreak> lol
19:02 < tifreak> not
19:02 < tifreak> My dad's tuck is quite fast tyvm
19:02 < tifreak> my tow trucks are all slow though
19:02 < tifreak> cause they have to pull stuff
19:03 <@E-J> http://naurunappula.com/z/311709/
19:03 <+kirsk> like i said, torque and slow
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19:05 < Merthsoft> diesls are fast
19:06 <+kirsk> not relatively
19:08 < tifreak> kirsk: only big trucks, depends on how they are geared and stuff ;)
19:08 < tifreak> =0
19:08 < tifreak> A wild tr1p1ea has appeared!
19:09 <+kirsk> same car gas vs diesel engine, gas will always be faster on a circuit due to higher acceleration and top speed whereas diesel will give higher low gear torque (good for low speed offroading and pulling stuff) lower top speed and acceleration
19:13 < Merthsoft> tifreak: your response?
19:14 < tifreak> again, pending how it is geared in the drive trian..
19:14 < tifreak> I have seen some speedy vehicles that are diesels
19:14 <+kirsk> there are some faster than rusted away mazda m3's sure
19:14 < tifreak> I can make that same gas engine vehicle slow by putting in lower gears in the drivetrain, making it have a great deal more torque in the process
19:15 <+kirsk> but eual engines/cars gas vs diesel the difference is as stated above
19:15 < tifreak> engine doesn't make the whole process of speed and torque, you also have to deal with the gearing of the transmission and axles
19:15 <+kirsk> tweak the diesel then of course you have to tweak the gas one equally or the difference isnt disel vs gas any more
19:16 < tifreak> if you give them equal drive train, the gas will have the advantage at start
19:16 < tifreak> however
19:16 < tifreak> in a short time, the diesel will overtake
19:16 <+kirsk> and then get overtaken in the end again
19:16 <+kirsk> and at corners
19:17 < tifreak> only if the person driving didn't have a clue how to do it XD
19:17 < tifreak> that is what we call "shifting"
19:17 < tifreak> XD
19:17 < tifreak> =p
19:17 < tifreak> we should totally start up diesel racing
19:17 <+kirsk> eh the car with a gas engine can have a nonretarded driver too
19:17 < tifreak> screw the gas engines
19:17 < tifreak> anyways, it is fscking cold outside
19:18 <+kirsk> are there any diesels in rally?
19:18 < tifreak> I.. don't think so
19:18 <@E-J> in top gear they drived some time some supercar which was fastest when using biofuel and second fastest with diesel
19:18 <+kirsk> supercars are unique cases
19:19 <+kirsk> if they design a supercar to be best with biofuel then yeah its gonna be best with that, but making a car that fast is easyer with a gas engine
19:19 <+kirsk> in the same way supercars with gas engines wont be fastest converted to run on biofuel : )
19:20 <@E-J> kirsk: last le mans winner was diesel car
19:20 <@E-J> iirc
19:20 <+kirsk> ah le mans
19:20 <+kirsk> well that makes sense, endurance race
19:20 < tifreak> hmm.. I think we should force the car makers to go back to carburetors.. or fix the damned fuel injection..
19:20 <@Andy_J> or push fuel cells
19:20 <+kirsk> hmm are there diesel bikes?
19:21 < tifreak> probably kirsk
19:21 < tifreak> custom made stuff. =p
19:21 < tifreak> oh god those things would get 150 miles per gallon.. o.O
19:21 <+kirsk> teehee caravan pullin bike
19:22 <@E-J> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koenigsegg_CCX this car is faster if they use ethanol as fuel and not normal gasoline
19:23 <+kirsk> rocket fuel is even faster :P
19:24 < tifreak> and burns out the pistons and blows out the rods.. XD
19:25 <+kirsk> yeah it wont go very far
19:25 <+kirsk> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ThrustSSC
19:25 <+kirsk> fasterrrrrrr
19:31 < tifreak> *straps a rocket to kirsk and ignites it* There, now you can go fast too..
19:31 < tifreak> XD
19:32 <@E-J> http://www.motorcyclingblog.com/photos/the-fastest-production-motorcycles-in-the-world/9 motorbike with jet engine
19:34 <+kirsk> *straps a subaruuuuu to tifreak* now you can go faster than diesel :P
19:35 < Ox40Work> ^([^\/]+)\/([^,]+),([^\/]+)\/([^,]+),([^\/]+)\/([^,]+),([^\/]+) index.php?tab=Admin$1&$2=$3&$4=$5&$6=$7&$8=$9
19:35 <+kirsk> halp
19:35 < Ox40Work> How can I make a rewrite rule stop parsing once the $X's run have no data in them?
19:35 <+kirsk> wat?
19:36 < Ox40Work> well, that rule only matches "Orders/asdf,a/b,b/c,c/"
19:36 < Ox40Work> I want it to also match "Orders/asdf,a/"
19:36 < Ox40Work> or "Orders"
19:36 <+kirsk> so use ? or * ?
19:37 < Ox40Work> O.o
19:37 <+kirsk> or {#,#}
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19:37 < ports-> trolling people on irc gets old after a while
19:38 < ports-> its hard to spice it up and keep it fresh
19:38 <+kirsk> clones
19:39 < Ox40Work> ports-: nikky doesn't spice it up, same-old same-old usually works for him
19:39 < Ox40Work> learn to be happy with your catches.
19:40 < Nikky> Shut up PHPfag
19:40 < Ox40Work> hehe see?
19:40 < Nikky> At least my limited knowledge of html doesn't make my sites look shitty
19:40 < Ox40Work> Perfect example Nikky.
19:40 < Nikky> unlike your hardware CMS crap
19:40 < Ox40Work> :P
19:40 < Ox40Work> Thanks.
19:40 < Nikky> it seems people who know about hammers don't know what computers are
19:40 < Ox40Work> Ur sweet.
19:40 < Nikky> I love you
19:40 < Nikky> father my children
19:40 <+kirsk> not enough lack of css bashing
19:40 < Ox40Work> Nikky is trolling hard today, holy shit.
19:40 < Merthsoft> i know about hamers
19:41 < ports-> oh
19:41 < Nikky> I know about Merthsoft's ass
19:41 <+kirsk> 0/10 != trolling hard
19:41 < ports-> ive been harassing people in another channel for a while
19:41 < Ox40Work> 0/10?
19:41 <+kirsk> troll rating
19:41 < Nikky> ports-: You can harrass people here too.
19:41 < ports-> its finally to a point (3 years later) that its no more fun
19:41 < Nikky> This is anti-omnimaga
19:41 < Ox40Work> kirsk: it was a pretty hard troll... no work-up or anything.
19:41 < Ox40Work> just full-out trollage.
19:41 < ports-> Nikky:  i had a good run. 3 years of trolling them
19:41 < Merthsoft> if you harass me i'll kick Merth 
19:41 <+kirsk> rating is based on actuall affect
19:41 < ports-> Nikky:  its finally to a point where 9/10 people in the channel really hate me
19:41 < Nikky> yeah
19:41 <+kirsk> too obvious and nobody really cares -> 0/10
19:42 < Nikky> that's how I got with Grue`'s channel
19:42 <+kirsk> subtle and rage worth = higher
19:42 < Nikky> and #unitedti
19:42 < Ox40Work> kirsk: ahh, good point.
19:43 < Ox40Work> Hey, what are the rewrite flags?
19:43 <+kirsk> actually gets people to take it seriously and rage -> 9 or 10/10
19:43 < ports-> lame
19:43 < ports-> Nikky:  go troll them in #FPN on freenode
19:43 < Nikky> I try and not troll too hard here
19:43 < Nikky> I have a reputation to uphold!
19:43 < ports-> Nikky:  gargamale is a irish-native american hybrid that likes pot
19:43 < Nikky> haha, freenode
19:43 < Nikky> world's worst irc network
19:44 < Merthsoft> i'm an irish native american hybird
19:44 < ports-> Merth: good for you, no one was talking to you
19:44 < Merthsoft> !k Merth I was harassed
19:44 -!- Merth was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [Merthsoft: I was harassed]
19:45 < Merthsoft> poor Merth
19:45 < Ox40Work> Heh, I always pronounce "merth" as "murff"
19:45 < Ox40Work> mostly because a guy I work with pronounces "Wreath" "reef"
19:46 < ports-> holy shit
19:46 < ports-> i think im twitter friends with a high schooler
19:47 < ports-> http://twitter.com/___rachel
19:47 <+kirsk> Ox40Work what are you trying to do exactly, it seems there should be a better way than ^([^\/]+)\/([^,]+),([^\/]+)\/([^,]+),([^\/]+)\/([^,]+),([^\/]+) ^([^\/]+)\/([^,]+),([^\/]+)\/([^,]+),([^\/]+)\/([^,]+),([^\/]+) ^([^\/]+)\/([^,]+),([^\/]+)\/([^,]+),([^\/]+)\/([^,]+),([^\/]+) 
19:51 < tifreak> wtf is a twitter..? o.O
19:51 < Damakaru> Another dumb-ass social networking website.
19:52 < tifreak> looks like it
19:52 < ports-> it is
19:52 < Nikky> twitter is awesome
19:52 < Nikky> suck a dick
19:52 <@mokomull> It's a "microblogging" site.
19:52 < Ox40Work> ports-: hot enough...
19:52 < ports-> i think shes in high school
19:53 < Ox40Work> perfect.
19:53 < Damakaru> Basically, a network of "What are you doing now?" statuses.
19:53 < ports-> i added her because she had a blackberry
19:53 < ports-> Ox40Work:  im a little older
19:53 < Ox40Work> kirsk: rewrite /Orders/foo,bar/bar,foo/another,something/ to /index.php?tab=Orders&foo=bar&bar=foo&another=something
19:54 < Ox40Work> (darn it, I was gonna make a site and call it http://whatchaupto.com ... its taken)
19:54 <@mokomull> Ox40Work: How about ^(.+?)\/(.+?),(.+?)/ , etc
19:54 < ports-> meh
19:54 <+kirsk> ports-: internet disease, cant judge hotness, going with "would probably hit that because i aint got anythin better to do anyways"
19:54 < ports-> im having a hard time buying a domain
19:54 <@mokomull> At least that looks a bit better :P
19:55 < ports-> but all the domain names i want are taken
19:55 < Ox40Work> mokomull: well.... I want to find a better way period...
19:55 <@mokomull> ports-: Stop trying to recreate the bash quote :P
19:55 < ports-> because id like something that i could just set up a decent email addy to use for work/etc... theyre taken
19:55 <@mokomull> Ox40Work: Use Ruby on Rails ;D
19:56 < Ox40Work> mokomull: uh, I have an application already running...
19:56 < ports-> hmm
19:56 < Ox40Work> im not gonna rewrite 16MB of code
19:56 <@mokomull> In all seriousness, most URL rewrite engines use regexes; you're not going to escape that.
19:56 < ports-> i wanted like PatelEngineering.com... but that would be bad
19:56 < ports-> because it would look like i was trying to do my own consulting engineering work.. and that would piss off my boss
19:57 < Nikky> Ox40Work: whiner.
19:57 < Nikky> What the hell has 16MB of code.
19:57 < Nikky> Unless you don't believe in libraries.
19:58 < Damakaru> *Cannot wait 'til night to test try out the blinding strobber he ran through his subwoofer line.*
19:58 <@mokomull> I would bet that rewritten in a decent framework would probably boil that down to far less code, but I do agree that is hard to do sometimes.
19:59  * Nikky kisses mokomull 
19:59 <@mokomull> I've heard stories about companies that spend years writing software in Java and then port it to RoR in two weeks.
19:59 < ports-> mokomull:  lies
19:59 < ports-> i wrote a story with my penis once
19:59 < ports-> it was called Pearls of Joy
20:00 < Nikky> <3 perl
20:00 < ports-> Nikky:  +1
20:00  * mokomull checked out two books on Perl this morning.
20:00 < ports-> mokomull:  im writing a book
20:00 < Merthsoft> it's 0 degrees outsife
20:01 < ports-> well not really a book
20:01 < ports-> its a technical paper
20:01 <@mokomull> on what?
20:01 < Damakaru> Fourty-three degrees.
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20:01 <@mokomull> hm, now I'm trying to interpret my nickname as an array >_>
20:01 < ports-> mokomull:  some of the work im doing (at work).. methods of purifying a protein
20:01 <@mokomull> Ah.
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20:02 < ports-> im kind of excited
20:02 < ports-> if i develop this stuff well enough.. we will apply for a patent
20:02 < sir_lewk> "Would you expect a novice to check file permissions before trying to delete a file?"
20:02 < sir_lewk> "Would you expect a novice driver to press the clutch before throwing a manual transmission into gear?"
20:02 < sir_lewk> that is the smartest thing I have heard all day
20:03 < ports-> newspaper people have no sense of humor
20:04 <@mokomull> :-P
20:04 < ports-> they could total write an article "Apple out of Jobs" and relate it to the economic stuff
20:05 < sir_lewk> lol
20:05 < ports-> see!
20:05 < ports-> its funny because its true
20:06 < muerbetei> I am looking for a TI Basic (on Voyage 200) "IDE" that works under linux since I'm going to write some tiny math programs (or analyse others from the internet). Does anybody know some? The program "TI Edit" doesn't work for me. It's this tokenized format of TI programs that confuses me. 
20:07 < sir_lewk> I'm not aware of any off the top of my head :-/
20:08 < sir_lewk> there may be some webbased thing, I think there are a few for the 83+ line at least
20:09 < muerbetei> On sf.net there is a program called The "TI-Basic Compiler" which does not match my needs I think as it only converts TI-83 up to TI-84++. 
20:11 < Ox40Work> Nikky: It's our website, its PHP (bulky-shit), and it does a TON of stuff
20:11 < Ox40Work> along with multiple languages.... and multiple DB support...
20:12 < Ox40Work> And the language files to translate the entire application to about 30 languages...
20:12 < Ox40Work> so yeah, 16MB is pretty good.
20:12 < Ox40Work> Now, go eat a cookie.
20:12 < sir_lewk> muerbetei: your best bet is probably to use tiemu.  it's a TI emulator that can handle the v200
20:12 < sir_lewk> it's a bit faster once you get used to it
20:14 < sir_lewk> http://ti.zewaren.net/en/?PHPSESSID=7dc15964348336ade57495b125aef2bf this site has a bit, not a program editor though
20:15 < muerbetei> sir_lewk: I used it several times, but thought it was even slower than the original product (as it is an emulator).
20:16 < muerbetei> I think, I will try to use it as my "IDE" finally and give it a try. thanks
20:17 < Damakaru> Doesn't Cemetech's SourceCoder have a built-in editor?
20:19 < sir_lewk> dunno if that'll do 68K programs, I'm not sure where that is at either
20:21 < Merthsoft> wow this is dumb
20:21 < Merthsoft> Windows Mobile SDK requires that I have Visual Studio 2005 SP1 or higher. Which means I can't use the express editions...
20:24 < ports-> meh
20:24 < ports-> im a little pissed
20:24 < ports-> i ordered supplies from a chemistry company...  they told me they would be here tuesday...  my secretary called them yesterday... the items are backordered!
20:24 < ports-> thanks for lying to us
20:25 < ports-> dicks!
20:25 < ports-> Nikky:  my tongue stuck my flash light yesterday
20:27 < Ox40Work> s/flash/flesh/
20:29 < ports-> Ox40Work:  shut the fuck up twerp
20:30 < ports-> +to my 
20:31 < Damakaru> "Shut the fuck up to my twerp?"
20:31 < ports-> Damakaru:  fuck you too
20:31 <+kirsk> i like you Ox40Work and Damakaru and also ports-
20:32 < Merthsoft> what's a quick, easy program to write
20:33 < ports-> i was working outside last night.. i had to replace the battery on my car.. and when i put my flash light in my mouth so i could use both hands.. the flash light stuck to my tongue
20:33 < Damakaru> Merthsoft:  Super-Wacky Fun Random Number Generator.
20:34 <@chronomex> WFRNG++ ?
20:35 < Damakaru> Yeah.
20:38 < Merthsoft> who knows python?
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20:47 < Ox40Work> LOL KIRSK
20:47 < Ox40Work> kirsk.revertNickname();
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21:01 <@efneTI92> [Tyler2] I no longer speak fluent dialup.
21:01 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Tyler2] by efneTI86
21:05 < Ox40Work> !seen the_storm
21:05 <@efneTI86> The_Storm (~TheStorm@75.86.232.242) was last seen quitting from #tiasm 19 days, 9 minutes ago stating (Quit: Leaving).
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21:08 < _Digital> holy crap. I swept a good 10-11 hours
21:08 < i_c-Y> wow, your house must have been dirty or major OCD
21:10 < Ox40Work> :P
21:14 <@E-J> Merthsoft: i know that it's snake
21:14 < Merthsoft> thanks E-J 
21:14 < i_c-Y> muerbetei: are you looking to do C or Basic?
21:15 < muerbetei> TI Basic
21:15 < i_c-Y> do you have tigraphilink? it probalby runs in wine
21:16 < i_c-Y> graphlink
21:16 < muerbetei> I thought it just generates TI-83 programs
21:17 < i_c-Y> i dont remember if it has an 89 editor too.
21:18 < muerbetei> To get "Ti Edit" running on my platform would be great
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21:22 <@E-J> i_c-Y: it has 89 editor
21:22 <@E-J> and 92
21:22 < likeWOAH> yeah, i thought so
21:23 <@E-J> i still don't understand who would code ti basic in computer, it's so much easier in calc
21:23 <@E-J> at least on 86 it was
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21:24 < muerbetei> It's because I do not trust that hard to my V200 as it crashes every time I've written some code and didn't archive it already ..
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21:24 < sir_lewk> that's not good
21:25 < i_c-Y> hm?
21:25 < sir_lewk> do you run any ASM programs on it?
21:25 < sir_lewk> it shouldnt be crashing normally under normal circumstances
21:25 < i_c-Y> blah blah blah useashellandpatchyourprograms
21:25 < i_c-Y> (if this is an 89ti convo)
21:26 < sir_lewk> v200
21:26 < muerbetei> no, it's ok
21:26 < sir_lewk> alrights
21:26 < muerbetei> It happend a long time ago when I played games sometimes that didnt freed the memory I think
21:28 < sir_lewk> ah, yeah
21:28 < muerbetei> Furthermore I was interested in getting to know how I can "translate" a normal text file to a v200 program variable.
21:28 < sir_lewk> oh, there are utilities around for that
21:29 < muerbetei> I know but none of them I found worked for me
21:29 < sir_lewk> oh, hmm
21:29 < sir_lewk> I haven't tried any
21:29 < sir_lewk> "15:33 < Damakaru> Merthsoft:  Super-Wacky Fun Random Number Generator."  You mean "Numbar"
21:29 <@Andy_J> so, battlestar galactica tonight
21:29 < sir_lewk> nerd
21:29 < sir_lewk> >.>
21:32 < i_c-Y> muerbetei: you can type it up in notepad or whatever, put it in notefolio throuhg TI's tools , then copypasta it into program editor.
21:34 < ports-> ok
21:34 < ports-> i got a problem
21:34 < muerbetei> would be a solution except for testing with tiemu :)
21:34 < ports-> advise folks
21:35 < ports-> my company doesnt give MLK day off.. but the place im working at (a university).. they are closed for MLK...  the professor training me says i should just not come in on MLK day.. since nothing will be going on here
21:35 <@Andy_J> call your boss
21:35 < ports-> and?
21:35 <@Andy_J> ask him
21:35 <@Andy_J> we are not your boss
21:36 < ports-> i dont want to ask him
21:36 <@Andy_J> tell him what you just told us
21:36 < ports-> last week i had to ask him if i could arrange my hours to work more a few days so i could take a day off to get my wisdom teeth removed..
21:36 < ports-> yesterday my car wouldnt start in the super cold.. so i came in 3 hours late.. (i made up the hours and stayed late last night)..
21:37 < ports-> i dont want to be too fussy and annoy him
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21:38 < sir_lewk> ports-: don't go in
21:38 < sir_lewk> or say you did but nobody was there
21:38 < ports-> no ill just come in
21:39 < ports-> im not going to lie about it
21:39 < sir_lewk> tell your boss to eat a cock while you're at it
21:40 < ports-> i work as a traveling employee.. my boss pretty much does zero oversight on me.. he trusts me to work my 7.75 hours and get stuff done..  he doesnt make me do time sheets or call ins.. all i have to do is submit an expense report, and weekly report on fridays..
21:44 < sir_lewk> cool
21:44 < ports-> im not going to break that trust
21:49 < _Digital> yeah, ignoring sir_lewk is a good idea right now
21:49 < Merthsoft> ignoring sir_lewk is never a good idea
21:50 < Damakaru> s:,:, not: #Fixed.
21:53 <@E-J> !lastspoke pen
21:53 <@efneTI86> pen last uttered a word on #tcpa 2 days, 22 hours, 59 minutes ago.
21:54 < Damakaru> I got a CRT over to the left of me.  What's the best way to set that up, if I want to extend my desktop, since it is so far away?  Dual-seat?
21:54 < Merthsoft> !lastspoke perryman
21:54 <@efneTI86> Perryman last uttered a word on #tcpa 8 hours, 14 minutes ago.
21:54 < Merthsoft> it should tells us their last line
21:54 < _Digital> Damakaru, use a VGA cable?
21:55 < Merthsoft> !t Welcome to TCPA | http://tcpa.calcg.org | http://www.junemann.nl/maxcoderz/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=2736 | >9000 days
21:55 -!- efneTI86 changed the topic of #tcpa to: Welcome to TCPA | http://tcpa.calcg.org | http://www.junemann.nl/maxcoderz/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=2736 | >9000 days
21:55 <@Andy_J> or you can just use /lastlog, Merthsoft 
21:55 < Damakaru> No, like dual seat or Big Desktop or Xinerama...
21:55 <@Andy_J> Damakaru: whatever works best for you
21:55 <@Andy_J> it's a personal preference
21:55 < Merthsoft> lastlog said "<efneTI86> Perryman last uttered a word on #tcpa 8 hours, 14 minutes ago."
21:55 < Merthsoft> that's not helpful
21:56 < _Digital> lol
21:56 <@Andy_J> then lurk moar
21:56 < _Digital> ++
21:56  * Merthsoft lurks all over Andy_J 
21:56 < _Digital> that sounds like somethign Nikky would do
21:57 <@E-J> [15:39:36]  *** Perryman (~d@97-114-131-81.sxfl.qwest.net) has joined channel [23:54:23]  <efneTI86> Perryman last uttered a word on #tcpa 8 hours, 14 minutes
21:57 <@E-J> do the math
21:57 < Merthsoft> psh i didn't know when he joined
21:57 < _Digital> if you can't, we'll ban you from teh channel
21:58 < Merthsoft> 23-15=4
21:58 < Damakaru> It sucks that I can't just plug the monitor in, and, boom, automatic extended desktop, and then it goes back to normal whenever I unplug it.
21:58 < Merthsoft> mine does that
21:58 < Merthsoft> mmmmm windows
21:58 < _Digital> mien does that
21:58 < _Digital> mmmmm OS X
21:59 < Merthsoft> ＼(^_^)／
21:59 < _Digital> :P
21:59 < Merthsoft> \(^_^)/
22:02 < Damakaru> .(-.-).
22:02 < Merthsoft> \(^_^)/
22:03 < _Digital> thus begins the great ASCII art wars
22:03 < Merthsoft> 8=====D
22:03 <@_Auron_> falcon PUNCH --O)X_^)
22:04 < Damakaru> Ooh, shoot.  *Runs off to re-get Impulse Tracker remix of Korn's "Twist."*
22:04 <@E-J> i hope you won't continue that
22:04  * Merthsoft continues E-J 
22:07 < Damakaru> I did not know EXE files were really archives...
22:08 <@_Auron_> .....
22:08 <@_Auron_> exes are binaries, some are just programs that unpack files like a zip/rar without needing a zip/rar program
22:08 < Damakaru> I can open them up in GNOME's Archive Manager, and it shows me the resources in the EXE.
22:10 < Damakaru> (Data, rsrc, Tables, Text, Icons, and whatnot.)
22:11 <@Andy_J> They aren't really archives
22:11 <@Andy_J> they have different sections but it wasn't designed as an archive format
22:11 <@Andy_J> It's not an actual archive format like .odt files are
22:12 < Ox40Work> yeah, you can open binaries and get at a bunch of cool stuff....
22:12 < Ox40Work> <(^_^)<       <(^_^)>     >(^_^)>
22:12 < bsparks> I feel accomplished, I figured out why I can't easily make my own iPod charger
22:13 <@_Auron_> and I doubt this exe has any resources: http://kk.kema.at/files/kkrieger-beta.zip
22:13 < Damakaru> bsparks:  Apple won't let you?  :P
22:13 < bsparks> Damakaru, no. If I had an older iPod [ read, iPod Video or earlier, Nano 3g or earlier, or Shuffle ]
22:14 < bsparks> I would be able to make one
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22:14 < Ox40Work> Why can't you?
22:14 < Ox40Work> _Auron_: doesnt work.
22:14 < bsparks> The older iPods just want attention [ aka, +5v ], that's pretty much it, but the iPod touch wants Attention and Conversation, I need to be able to provide different voltages over the data lines
22:15 < Ox40Work> hmmm
22:15 < Ox40Work> weird
22:15 < bsparks> which involves an IC, and a few resistors
22:15 < Ox40Work> bleh, their chargers seem pretty simple
22:15 < bsparks> but, all the parts to make the charger components, and to get the inverter so I can plug it into the wall
22:15 < bsparks> cost more than Apple's new wall charger
22:15 < bsparks> sooooo
22:17 < bsparks> I mean, it's just... 11... no, 12 components, 13 if you count the USB jack
22:17 < bsparks> and that's without a power source
22:20 <@E-J> http://www.hs.fi/english/article/Vantaa+fish+finger+episode+causes+lively+debate/1135242753441
22:20 < _Digital> I swore a the new feature of reassigning IRQs was added to kernel 2.6.28
22:20 < _Digital> I cannot find it now though
22:21 < _Digital> my HDD drives used to be split across different IRQs so I can have then on different IRQs. Now they are all assigned to 1 IRQ after I removed one of my drives
22:22 < _Digital> and I think that is one of my problems with disk performance under load because I didn't have this problem way back when
22:23 <@_Auron_> Ox40Work: what doesn't work?
22:24 <@_Auron_> WTF
22:24 <@_Auron_> google disable my account?!
22:25 < bsparks> ??!??!??!!!?!?
22:26 <@_Auron_> it asked me for my password in a slightly different prompt
22:26 <@_Auron_> I put it in, then it refreshed and asked fori t again with an image that has letters that it wanted me to put it (which it has done on my phone before)
22:26 <@_Auron_> so I did that, and then it told me "Your account has been disabled (?)" on a new page
22:26 < bsparks> ?
22:26 < tr1p1ea> :X
22:26 < tr1p1ea> those mother ..
22:26 < bsparks> were you sure they were offical google pages?
22:26 <@_Auron_> yeah and
22:26 < bsparks> cause I had someone phish my gmail account recently
22:26 < tr1p1ea> phishing?
22:26 <@_Auron_> if I click the ? it just says to try again and it works now
22:27 < tr1p1ea> right
22:27 <@_Auron_> http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=61805
22:28 <@_Auron_> it wasn't phising
22:28 < tr1p1ea> g00gle.com?
22:28 <@_Auron_> nope
22:29 <@_Auron_> mail.google.com and nothing suspicious
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22:41 <@Andy_J> that happens if you put your password in incorrectly too many times in a row
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22:56 < tr1p1ea> you phished his pass Andy_J?
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23:01 <@Andy_J> -.-
23:02 <@_Auron_> Andy_J: total of twice after it logged me out for some reason, and the first time it didn't give me the image
23:02 <@_Auron_> I was correct on my password
23:02 <@Andy_J> maybe somebody else was trying to break in
23:02 <@_Auron_> how lame
23:03 < tr1p1ea> maybe it forsaw that you would do it again?
23:12 < sir_lewk> wazzzup @ jous
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23:14 < Damakaru> GNOME's dual-screen support sucks.  :P
23:16 < sir_lewk> well duh
23:16 < sir_lewk> try KDE 4.x, I hear it's supposed to be nice
23:16 < sir_lewk> (haven't actually tried it myself though)
23:17 < Damakaru> sir_lewk: I'm thinking Xfce.  Xfce's multi-screen support is nice.
23:17 < Damakaru> But I thought 4.6 vould be out of beta by now.  Nope.
23:18 < _Digital> so I have car insurance, acer aspire one, vagcom diagnostic hardware + software, 17-55 f/2.8 IS, new cell phone, brake pads and rotors, and a taller 5th gear on my list of things I need/want to buy
23:19 < _Digital> overall the cost would be about $3500
23:19 < _Digital> I make ~20800 a year after taxes
23:20 < Damakaru> What's that negative sign?\
23:20 < _Digital> tilde, not negative
23:20 < sir_lewk> (about)
23:20 < Damakaru> Oh.  (Fuzzy CRT.)
23:21 < _Digital> death to CRT
23:22 < _Digital> VmallocTotal:   34359738367 kB
23:22 < _Digital> welcome to what happens when you have no swap
23:22 < _Digital> I wish I had that much disk space
23:23 < _Digital> oh, forgot tinting windows on car. 200-400
23:23 < tr1p1ea> do kittens eat food?
23:23 < tr1p1ea> or do they just drink beer?
23:24 < _Digital> don't have kittens, don't want kittens
23:24 < tr1p1ea> ... theres one on your face
23:24  * _Digital loads the shotgun
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23:25 < tr1p1ea> good thing hes the kitten who cannot be smitten
23:25  * _Digital remembers the scene in Boondock Saints with the cat and the gun
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23:38 < tr1p1ea> is the Whitehouse gonna be renamed when Obama moves in?
23:40 < _Digital> that is funny
23:40 < Tari> !qadd <tr1p1ea> is the Whitehouse gonna be renamed when Obama moves in?
23:40 <@efneTI86> Quote 1503 added
23:40 < _Digital> dude, at least make to correction to White House
23:41 < _Digital> !qadd is the White House gonna be renamed when Obama moves in?
23:41 <@efneTI86> Quote 1504 added
23:41 < _Digital> !qdel 1503
23:41 <@efneTI86> Deleted quote 1503
23:41 < tr1p1ea> ahh, anonomity
23:41 < tr1p1ea> :)
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23:42 < sir_lewk> failasourus rex
23:42 < _Digital> how is anonymity relevant? the proper noun is as stated
23:43 < tr1p1ea> ..
23:44 < _Digital> I don't get why you made the anonymity comment
23:45 < _Digital> http://atlas64.selfip.net:8080/Mirrors/www.ticalc.org/
23:46 < _Digital> meh, w/e
23:54 < Damakaru> What the hell?  We are not allowed to view "index.html" on websites, apparently.  (Of course, taking it out works...)
23:55 < _Digital> no, ticalc.org doesn't exactly have index.html files
23:55 < _Digital> they are downloaded by my crawler as _._.html or somesuch
23:56 < _Digital> I only rename the first one for having it load more seamlessly
23:56 < _Digital> I could have sed run through everything and rename all of them
23:56 < _Digital> but that is inefficient and somewhat pointless
23:57 < _Digital> Damakaru, my mirror updates once a week
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