--- Log opened Wed Jan 14 00:00:08 2009
00:00 < ports> Merthsoft, fair enough
00:00 < Nikky> long sleeved polo? ick
00:01 < Nikky> I would not wear that to any business enviroment.
00:01 < ports> Nikky, not that specific one, ok.. but why not any long sleeved polo?
00:01 <+kirsk> suit up
00:02 < Nikky> A regular one might be okay
00:02 < Nikky> depending on how it looks
00:02 < Nikky> Although if you want to go long sleeved... just get a button up! :)
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00:04 < ports_> i work as a traveling employee.. so i dress comfortable
00:05 < ports_> khakhis, usually with cargo pockets.. (non baggy) and sweaters/polos/occasional button up shirt
00:06 <+kirsk> http://img.2dehands.nl/f/view/42467678.jpg
00:06 <+kirsk> although mine are black
00:06 < ports_> werd
00:06 <+kirsk> and i roll up my sleeves
00:06 < ports_> kirsk, what about that shirt
00:07 <+kirsk> would that work for business casual?
00:07 < ports_> lol yes
00:07 < ports_> but the buttoned pockets look stupid
00:07 <+kirsk> looks better in black
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00:09 < ports_> no
00:09 < ports_> itd still be dumb
00:09 <+kirsk> why?
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00:12 <@efneTI92> [Tyler2] I no longer speak fluent dialup.
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00:25 < Damakaru> Merthsoft:  It does, indeed, seem I've lost the original DirectLink cable.  I have a Mini-USB-to-regular-USB converter, though.  Will that work?
00:25 < ports_> omm nom nom nom nom i love food
00:25 < Merthsoft> Damakaru: I've got cables, don't worry about it. Keep it for the84
00:25 < Nikky> I don't love ReDeEm 
00:35 < leofox> kirsk any news about the redhead girl?
00:35 < Merthsoft> leofox: quiet
00:35 < leofox> why? kirsk is a pretty cool guy
00:35 < leofox> eh talks about alt girls all the time and doesn't afraid of anything
00:36 <+kirsk> teehee
00:36 < Damakaru> s:does:is:
00:36 < Merthsoft> Damakaru: it's a meme of sorts
00:36 < leofox> Damakaru lurk moar
00:37 < leofox> I think halo is a pretty cool guy. eh kills aliens and doesn't afraid of anything
00:37 <+kirsk> no leofox i havent messaged the random cute redhead girl on hyves yet
00:38 < leofox> why not?
00:38 < Nikky> Shut up.
00:38 <+kirsk> because wierd
00:38 < leofox> Nikky is a fag
00:38 < Nikky> Nobody likes kirsk 
00:38 < Nikky> leofox likes men.
00:38 < Nikky> But that's not the point.
00:39 < leofox> so does your mom
00:39 < Nikky> I would hope so.
00:40 < leofox> No I dont
00:41 < leofox> I like cute girls
00:41 <+kirsk> yeah me too
00:41 < leofox> and alcohol
00:41 <+kirsk> no idea what to message a random profile though
00:41 < leofox> someone did that to me once
00:41 < leofox> she said "hey you like animu right"
00:41 <+kirsk> "hi, youre cute lol ^_^" 
00:41 < Nikky> Girls are for losers.
00:41 <+kirsk> ooh cool
00:41 <+kirsk> nobody randomly messages me D:
00:41 < leofox> kirsk just pretend it's a dating site or something
00:42 < Nikky> Can I date kirsk?
00:42 < leofox> "hey i saw your profile you look cute wanna have hot secks"
00:42 <+kirsk> aha!
00:42 <+kirsk> but i will need a pic on my own profile
00:42 < Damakaru> *Hears someone get slapped.*
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00:43 < leofox> how do your people do that Damakaru?
00:43 < leofox> I mean like in America
00:43 <+kirsk> what day is it?
00:44 < leofox> wedneday
00:44 <+kirsk> hmm i will get a pic friday then
00:44 < Damakaru> What, slap people? | 1.13.08
00:44 <+kirsk> and then upload and message her asap
00:44 < leofox> no. pick up girls
00:45 < leofox> and why do you say it's the first of the thirtheenth mont
00:45 < leofox> of last year?
00:45 <+kirsk> i guess ill ask if she'd like to chat
00:45 < Nikky> Loser.
00:45 < Nikky> Diaf.
00:45 <+kirsk> give her my msn or something
00:45 < Nikky> DIAF
00:45 < Damakaru> leofox:  You hit the nail on the head at (06:42:04 PM CST). | American date format.
00:46 <+kirsk> what is diaf?
00:46 <+patz2009> die in a fire
00:46 <+kirsk> oh yeah
00:46 < Nikky> later gators
00:46 <+kirsk> you know i wouldnt care about this random profile if there were ever any cute girls like this in town
00:46 < leofox> it was 06:42:08 tyvm
00:46 <+kirsk> later
00:46 < leofox> i dont sync my clock every day to be 4 seconds fast
00:48 < Damakaru> OpenNTPD syncs every boot or dar for me.
00:48 < Damakaru> * day
00:48 <+kirsk> in fact it would be much more fun to see a girl that cute irl and be able to go for it
00:48 < ports_> where
00:48 <+kirsk> but all i see is cheap boring blonde whores
00:48 < ports_> kirsk, have you fucked any of them?
00:49 <+kirsk> no of course not
00:49 < ports_> then shut up
00:49 <+kirsk> ?
00:49 < leofox> dutch girls are so boring
00:49 < leofox> they are all big and blonde and arrogant
00:49 <+kirsk> except for the cute redheads
00:49 < leofox> nothing sensual about that
00:50 <+kirsk> there are cute girls but i never see them when i go out : /
00:50 < leofox> "hey i'm 30cm taller than you and I totally dont wanna date losers like you because i'm feminist like that lol *falls for the nearest loud retard with brand clothing and gel in his hair*"
00:51 <+kirsk> hehe lulz
00:51 <+kirsk> i think its more that they dont want to date. period. just want to get fucked and wake up the next morning "not remembering anything"
00:52 <+kirsk> there should be like cute girl cafes where instead of bimbos you might find geeky redheads and alt hippies
00:53 < ports_> i want tall blondes with big boobs
00:53 <+kirsk> well your taste is provided for
00:53 < ports_> thatd be fun to have sex with
00:53 <+kirsk> tall is rare but the rest of the bimbo requirements are easily met
00:53 <+kirsk> at least tall by my standards. how tall are you?
00:55 < ports_> really
00:55 < ports_> thatd be nice
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00:57 <+kirsk> i'd gladly hit something like this: http://94.100.113.200/459150001-459200000/459161801-459161900/459161833_5_Yjhx.jpeg
00:57 <+kirsk> thatd be nice. what do you think ports?
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00:59 < millinao> hi
01:00 <+kirsk> hu
01:01 < Merthsoft> if i ever got stabbed, i would not pull the knife out
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01:01 < Merthsoft> you always see people do it in the shows and stuff
01:01 < Merthsoft> fuckin' stupid
01:01 <+kirsk> true
01:01 < Merthsoft> let the blade seal the wound
01:02 <+kirsk> and if you stab someone be sure to retrieve the blade
01:02 <+kirsk> and stab a few more times
01:02 < millinao> if i was angry enough i would pull it out and stab them with it
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01:03 <+kirsk> that excellent
01:03 <+kirsk> *s
01:08 < Merthsoft> i don't get shell sort at all
01:08 < Merthsoft> and it's weeeeeird to watch
01:09 <+kirsk> looks pretty simple to me judging from the wikipedia page
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01:31 <@efneTI92> [Netham45] Narf!
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01:46 < Merthsoft> an artic blast and more snow to come
01:46 < Merthsoft> fuck
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01:47 < TD-Linux> w00t
01:47 < TD-Linux> Merthsoft, midwest?
01:47 <+Netham45> http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16896111001
01:47 < Merthsoft> TD-Linux: ohio
01:47 < TD-Linux> AHA
01:48 < TD-Linux> Netham45, I was looking for that link a while ago
01:48 < TD-Linux> but I was looking on amazon :(
01:48 <+Netham45> lol
01:50 <+Netham45> TD-Linux, I'm saddened, Newegg deactivated it.
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01:54 < Tari> we're supposed to get a high of -1F tomorrow
01:54 < Tari> -18C for you europeans
01:55 < millinao> goddamn
01:55 <+kirsk> http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/359201/0eb6181b/i_can_haz_ninja_.html
01:55 < millinao> go walk around in the nude, i hear that's really fun in the cold
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01:57 < sir_meta> yo!
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01:58 < dr_Tari> looks like a serious tumor on your nick there
01:58 < TD-Linux> Tari, w00t
01:58 < TD-Linux> -10 right now
01:58 < sir_meta> i like my nick like this
01:59 < dr_Tari> you should consider having it removed
01:59 < dr_Tari> it might metastacize
01:59 < dr_Tari> your nick could become sir_msiretasir
01:59 < sir_meta> i can't remember if it was kirsk or sir_lewk or someone else who started this though o_O
01:59 < dr_Tari> then you'd die from cancer
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02:00 <+kirsk> <-
02:00 < TD-Linux> by the way, I lied
02:00 < Tari> I totally misspelled metastasize
02:00 < TD-Linux> ROCHESTER INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT , MN, United States; (KRST) 43-54N 092-30W 403M; last updated: 2009.01.14 0154 UTC; Dew Point: -11.9 F (-24.4 C); Precipitation last hour: A trace; Pressure (altimeter): 30.04 in. Hg (1017 hPa); Relative Humidity: 67%; Sky conditions: overcast; Temperature: -4.0 F (-20.0 C); Visibility: 2 1/2 mile(s); Weather: Light snow; Wind: from the SE (130 degrees) at 8 MPH (7 KT); Windchill: -18 F (-28 C)
02:01 < Tari> you wouldn't want your liver looking like this, though:
02:01 < Tari> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Secondary_tumor_deposits_in_the_liver_from_a_primary_cancer_of_the_pancreas.jpg
02:02 < TD-Linux> ew
02:02 < sir_meta> ew
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02:03 < metagross> better save that nick for special occasions o_O
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02:05 <@efneTI92> [Tari_] Remember, remember the 5th of November
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02:05 <@efneTI92> [rivereye[] Is it time to go fishing?
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02:06 <+Netham45> http://img.4chan.org/b/res/109417524.html#109417524
02:07 <+kirsk> o shi-
02:08 < metagross> oh my god....
02:08 < metagross> we get to find out if BUSH LIKES MUDKIPS!!!!
02:08 < metagross> *LIEKS
02:09 < Tari_> oh snap
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02:09 < metagross> im watching it now....
02:10 <+Netham45> so am I
02:10 <+Netham45> it's not the interview yet.
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02:11 < metagross> 9 eastern, right?
02:11 < metagross> wait, then we missed it?
02:11 <+Netham45> no
02:11 < metagross> or at least, i did, i think
02:11 <+Netham45> it's still on on normal TV
02:11 <+Netham45> 9 ET was 12 minutes ago.
02:11 <+kirsk> i prefer abnormal tv
02:11 <+Netham45> from what I gathered, it's supposed to be an hour.
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02:15 < metagross> it was only 5 minutes though, right?
02:15 < metagross> i think we must have missed it -_-
02:15 < Nikky> Bush is a retard.
02:15 < Nikky> Why are you watching him.
02:15 <+Netham45> metagross, it's still on on TV.
02:15 < metagross> he got 4chan'd, i guess.
02:16 <+Netham45> dude
02:16 <+Netham45> IT'S STILL ON!
02:16 <+Netham45> ok
02:16  * Tari_ doesn't get cnn :(
02:16 <+Netham45> so shut up about it not being on.
02:16 < Nikky> hahahhahahaha CNN
02:16 < Nikky> hahahhahahaha CNN
02:17 < metagross> Netham45: i dont know much about CNN, theyre showing gazprom's network map
02:17 < metagross> Netham45: you sure they didnt show it yet?
02:17 < Nikky> Oh, he's on Larry King?
02:17 <+Netham45> metagross, I've been watching since 9 ET, and it wasn't shown.
02:17 <+Netham45> just wait.
02:17 < Nikky> Larry has been dead for years.
02:17 <+Netham45> Nikky, yea.
02:17 <+Netham45> accepting live, apparantly unscreened, phonecalls.
02:17 < Nikky> He throws such softballs
02:17 <+Netham45> Aaaand 4chan found out.
02:18 < Nikky> 4chan is stupid
02:18 < Nikky> mention it again and I ban metagross 
02:18 < metagross> o_O
02:18  * Tari_ goes outside in the obscene cold
02:18 <+Netham45> huh?
02:18 <+Netham45> ok, 4chan is a website.
02:19 < Nikky> Sorry metagross 
02:19 <+Netham45> heh
02:19 < metagross> you wouldn't o_O
02:19 <+Netham45> it was prerecorded
02:19 <+Netham45> apparantly
02:19 < Nikky> :)
02:19 < metagross> i hate you so much Netham45 right now >:(
02:20 <+Netham45> :)
02:20 < Nikky> I hate you too.
02:20  * metagross braces for banhammer x_x
02:21 <+Netham45> aww, the thread 404'd
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02:21 < Nikky> too lazy
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02:24 <+kirsk> fail
02:24 < millinao_> i want a lego game with physics and whatnot
02:24 <+patz2009> no me
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02:27 < millinao_> damnit millinao time out
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02:30 < millinao> uhoh 175 MB free space
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02:42 < i_c-Y> way2go
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02:53 < ReDeEm> yo...
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02:54 < millinao> fuuuck i'm stuck on crayon physisc
02:54 <+kirsk> :o playing it right now
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02:55 <@efneTI92> [Storm\_] Yes rivereye, it is time to go fishing.
02:55 < metagross> playing what kirsk?
02:55 <+kirsk> crayon physics
02:55 < Merthsoft> Damakaru: i still need your address
02:56 < Damakaru> Oh, right.
03:03 < Damakaru> That might have gotten sent more than once (blame Claws Mail{.
03:03 < Merthsoft> swwet
03:03 < Merthsoft> i'll ship it friday when i get paid
03:05 < millinao> whats going on, mail order gay porn?
03:05 < Nikky> yes
03:05 <+kirsk> crayon physics is kind of dull puzzle wize
03:05 < Merthsoft> millinao: me and Damakaru are trading calc
03:05 <+kirsk> different colours dont seem to matter
03:05 < millinao> of course nikky says yes
03:05 <+kirsk> cant make anything move except by clipping into things or dropping stuff
03:06 < metagross> kirsk: especially when there is a flash clone of the same game online.
03:06 < Merthsoft> millinao: my 84+SE for his 89Ti
03:06 < millinao> k
03:06 < Merthsoft> Damakaru: have you sent yours yet?
03:06 < metagross> and if all you can do is clip and drop things, the flash clone is WAAAAY better.
03:07 < Merthsoft> you can click on the ball
03:07 <+kirsk> yeah ok
03:07 < Damakaru> Merthsoft:  Tomorrow.
03:07 < Merthsoft> :)
03:07 < Merthsoft> <3
03:07 <+kirsk> but thats so pointless, you might as well drop something on it
03:07 < millinao> i'm stuck on this wtf
03:08 <+kirsk> what level you at?
03:08 < millinao> hh
03:08 < millinao> rocket loop
03:08 < millinao> its on island 4 i think
03:08 < millinao> the one with the rockets
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03:09 <+kirsk> hmm rockets eh
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03:14 < millinao> yay i beat it
03:14 < millinao> i launched it and deleted the thing around the circle at just the right time
03:14 < millinao> and yet I still don't have a happy life
03:15 < millinao> maybe I should try another level
03:15 < Nikky> nerds
03:16 < millinao> :(
03:16 < Speler> I just finished mixinating some of my bandz demoz
03:16 < millinao> everytime you say that I think of a high school jock jumping up and down and pointing at me and streaming NERD! NERD
03:16 < millinao> err, screaming
03:16 < Speler> Well... mixing is too strong a word since all the music was one track XD
03:17 < millinao> hahaha
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03:20 < Tari> we screwed with generating tones for a bit at school today
03:20 < Tari> 20.5 kHz sounds like a migraine :)
03:20 < millinao> ugh i did that with audacity
03:20 < millinao> now i'm scared to run the program
03:20 < ReDeEm> YAY GOOGLE chrome!
03:20 < Merthsoft> google chrome is lame
03:20 < Tari> what, about:internets?
03:21 < millinao> google chrome sucks
03:21 < ReDeEm> lol, "Dont clog the tubes!"
03:26 <+kirsk> hmm i just completed island 4 but dont recall any rockets
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03:27 <+kirsk> oh island 5 ok
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03:36 <@efneTI92> [Storm\_] Yes rivereye, it is time to go fishing.
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04:46 < Speler> Lulz
04:46 < i_c-Y> no lulz for you
04:46 < Speler> NEXT
04:50 < Speler> (Lulz nazi)
04:50 < chronomex> ...
04:51 < chronomex> UWICK's SFTP app, as differentiated from the shitty ssh-term they ship
04:51 < chronomex> errr
04:51 < chronomex> http://isthiswebpageblinkingrapidly.com/ is what I meant to paste
04:53 < Nikky> haha, UWICK
04:55 < i_c-Y> UWICK?
04:55 < i_c-Y> university of washington ICK?
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04:56 < i_c-Y> internet connectivity kit?
04:56 < chronomex> yeah
04:56 < chronomex> they site-license a bunch of useful windows utilities and sell it to students for $1
04:57 < i_c-Y> oh nice
04:57 < chronomex> yeah
04:59 < i_c-Y> so, what did they license for their sftp app / sftp app?
04:59 < i_c-Y> securecrt?
05:01  * \\BAF\IRC lurks
05:04 < Nikky> !k i_c-Y Lurk.
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05:05  * i_c-Y cries
05:05 < Nikky> :)
05:07 < i_c-Y> securecrt isnt bad
05:07 < i_c-Y> i mean if i werent going to distribute winscp (hwich comes with putty), then id probably distribute that
05:08 < i_c-Y> or cygwin
05:08 < chronomex> aye
05:08 < chronomex> i_c-Y: ssh-tectia does terminal / sftp
05:08 < chronomex> but they license something else for the terminal
05:08 < chronomex> inexplicably, it's a good deal shittier
05:09 < i_c-Y> they license the server too?
05:09 < i_c-Y> why dont they just distribute putty
05:09 < i_c-Y> and winscp
05:11 < chronomex> oh, not the server, no
05:11 < chronomex> just the client
05:11 < chronomex> I have no idea
05:11 < chronomex> but I've come to like tectia a lot
05:12 < i_c-Y> y
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05:48 <@E-J> morning
05:49 < chronomex> evening
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05:49 <@E-J> old comperhensive school in news, 13-year-old kid took 4 fish-fingers insead of allowed 3 and after some things police were called to school
05:50 < sir_lewk> This just in. XKCD announces he is an idiot.
05:50 < sir_lewk> That is all.
05:50 < chronomex> you mean randall munroe?
05:51 < chronomex> hahaha
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05:51  * sir_lewk sleeps
05:51 < i_c-Y> i need sleep
05:51 <@E-J> chronomex: you can have free tectia too as campus license?
05:51 < chronomex> yeah
05:51 < chronomex> and no I can't send you a copy, it's got export restrictions
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05:53 < ports> i need to go to walmart tomorrow
05:53 < ports> gotta buy more lunchables and yogurt
05:53 < Damakaru> Kid got in trouble for taking one too many fish fingers?
05:53 < chronomex> walmart sucks
05:54 < ports> why does walmart suck?
05:54 < i_c-Y> cause he's from seattle
05:54  * chronomex nods
05:54 < ports> i_c-Y, you always say such clear, meaningful, pure shit.
05:55 <@E-J> chronomex: well we have own campus licenses here too, after all tatu ylönen graduated from here
05:55 < chronomex> ah, who's he?
05:56 <@E-J> founder of ssh
05:57 <@E-J> and biggest owner of ssh communication security which's product ssh tectia is
05:58 < chronomex> oh, cool
05:58 < Nikky> sweet
05:58 < Nikky> well
05:58 < Nikky> we kicked Bill gates out of our computer labs!
05:58 < _Auron_> lol
06:00 <@E-J> actually that guy is one of the few who has graduated here, founders of f-secure have studied here but they didn't ever graduate
06:01 < Damakaru> Nikky:  Who (what) did they replace him (it) with?
06:01 < Nikky> ?
06:01 <@E-J> jorma ollila (former CEO of Nokia) has graduated too from here
06:01 < Nikky> We kicked out the high school student bill gates
06:01 < Nikky> back when mainframes were the hto shit
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06:06 < _Digital> question
06:06 < _Digital> say I have a process that has a really long name
06:07 < _Digital> but programs like top, htop, iotop truncate the whole like of test
06:07 < _Digital> how can I query that line from the process
06:08 < _Digital> whether or not this is a proxy, I have someone from the Deutsche Bank Regional Head Office in Singapore downloading a couple of my TV shos, just curious as to which ones
06:11 < Nikky> top | grep whatever
06:12 < Nikky> htop also lets you stroll left and right
06:12 < Nikky> youcan also search using htop
06:12 < _Digital> but htop doesn't show anythign but the execution string
06:13 < Nikky> lookat your server log
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06:13 < _Digital> last file listed for trying to be fetched was at 0148 am
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06:14 < _Digital> and at 300KB/sec it would have been downloaded in about 12 hours
06:15 <@E-J> time is about 14:15 on singapore now
06:15 < _Digital> logs are in local time
06:16 < _Digital> 202.21.227.84 - - [13/Jan/2009:21:50:18 -0800] "GET /TV/Network/FOX/House/MPEG-2.TS/ HTTP/1.1" 200 2598 "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible;)"
06:16 <@E-J> yep but from that you can guess which time he/she started to download things :)
06:17 < _Digital> that is the last request in my logs, and that is a directory
06:17 < _Digital> I just cannot tell when they are downloading and I'm curious
06:18 < _Digital> grepping top is useless
06:18 < chronomex> ps -fled | grep
06:18 <@E-J> what about last
06:18 < chronomex> true
06:18 <@Andy_J> ... how can you grep top? >_>
06:18 < _Digital> pipe it
06:19 < _Digital> |
06:19 < chronomex> Andy_J: well ... you can
06:19 <@Andy_J> top is interactive
06:19 < chronomex> it writes a bunch of lines, then goes back to the top of the screen
06:19 < chronomex> and writes more lines
06:19 < chronomex> the "writes lines" thing is the important bit
06:20 < _Digital> chronomex, that doesn't yeild any results. I have the PID's of teh processes actually handlign teh requests though
06:20 < chronomex> ah
06:20  * chronomex shrugs
06:20 < _Digital> ps gets truncated too :(
06:21 < chronomex> apache? that isn't one server process per download, so you can't really find that easily
06:21 <@Andy_J> yeah, a process per request is a very bad idea
06:21 < _Digital> well, iotop shows which two threads are handling the downloads
06:22 < _Digital> but I cannot scroll
06:22 < _Digital> and grepping that just gives me a truncated line
06:23 < chronomex> COLUMNS=300 iotop | grep
06:23 < chronomex> try that
06:23 < Nikky> Andy_J: Try it! it works!
06:24 < _Digital> that worked chronomex, thanks. Unfortunately it mirrors htop and doesn't show file that it is active
06:24 < _Digital> just the command of execution
06:24 < _Digital> oh well
06:24 < chronomex> *shrug*
06:25 < _Digital> at least who ever it is is makign use of my server
06:25 < _Digital> even though they are at teh head office of a Bank
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06:25 < Nikky> well, why would a process viewer show what apache was servering?
06:25 < _Digital> descr:        Deutsche Bank Regional Head Office
06:25 < _Digital> descr:        8, Shenton Way #29-02
06:25 < _Digital> descr:        Temasek Towers
06:25 < _Digital> descr:        Singapore 068811
06:25 < _Digital> country:      SG
06:25 < _Digital> kill me later
06:26 < _Digital> I don't have apache's server status page configured or loaded
06:27 < chronomex> you may well have time
06:27 < chronomex> easy answer, use hping to forge a RST packet and be done with it
06:27 < _Digital> teach me
06:29 < _Digital> does wireshark have a cli mode?
06:30 <@Andy_J> tcpdrop
06:34 <@E-J> tr1p1ea: http://www.islandreefjob.com/ have you already made your application?
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06:43 < _Digital> Andy_J, I'm not sure what package that is under
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07:19 < _Digital> looks like I'm drawing 164-175 watts for load on my server
07:20 < _Digital> less than I thought. Probably thanks to my lowend video card
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07:48 < tr1p1ea> and also, your lowend video card
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08:10 < tr1p1ea> sdxc, nice
08:11 < zpowers> ?
08:13 < tr1p1ea> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7826330.stm
08:13 < tr1p1ea> 2TB memory cards
08:15 < tr1p1ea> (that link has nothing to do with sdxc)
08:17 < tr1p1ea> http://www.sdcard.org/developers/tech/sdxc
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09:06 <@efneTI92> [bsparks] Look! It's Captain Sarcasm, Master of the Universe!
09:06 < bsparks> I'm in a bad mood :(
09:06 < bsparks> !k Netham45 
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09:06 < jib> heh
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09:08 < bsparks> I want a Xerox Star
09:19 <@E-J> !k bsparks bad mood is not an excuse to kick netham
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09:20 < bsparks> if Ox40 was here I'd have kicked him instead
09:22 < bsparks> o.o;;;
09:22 <@E-J> bad mood isn't an excuse to kick him either
09:22 < bsparks> xkcd taught me how to make OS X talk
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09:30 < bsparks> hmm
09:30 < bsparks> I'm debating on staying up till ben gets on
09:32 <@E-J> he normally joins about this time
09:33 < bsparks> Does he?
09:34 <@E-J> it's 9.30 in britain and he likes to sleep long
09:34 < bsparks> ah
09:35 <@E-J> (i asked him about that some time, when he only work-irced and left every day at 18:30 his time)
09:35 < bsparks> ahh
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10:14 <@E-J> hmm, some finnish nerds have made new world record in 3dmark05, they overclocked some gpu and as cooling they used liquid helium
10:17 < Spengo> helium?
10:17 <@E-J> yep
10:18 <@E-J> you know that what is used in air balloons
10:18 < Spengo> of course, and it makes your voice funny if you inhale it
10:18 <@E-J> that's the one
10:18 < Spengo> why did they choose it over nitrogen?
10:19 < Spengo> does nitrogen freeze sooner?
10:19 <@E-J> dunno, maybe they wanted to be sure that gpu is cool enough
10:19 < Spengo> were they using some funky pressure that made it a better choice?
10:20 <@E-J> on static stage gpu was -242 C and in biggest stress it raised to -215 C
10:21 <@E-J> (absolute zero is -273.15 C)
10:21 <@E-J> news topic about that is only in finnish so i won't paste it
10:23 < Spengo> I know what absolute zero is
10:23 < Spengo> but my question is
10:23 < Spengo> why do they need it so cold
10:23 <@E-J> http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=214446 there is that in english
10:23 < Spengo> it seems that might hinder performance rather than help it...
10:23 < Spengo> is there an ideal temperature for transistors?
10:25 <@E-J> hmm or was that correct link...
10:26 < Spengo> anyway, I guess I gotta go to bed
10:32 <@E-J> http://plaza.fi/muropaketti/3dmark05n-maailmanennatys-suomeen there is some pictures if text is not understandable
10:40 <@E-J> http://i.gizmodo.com/5130009/beijing-man-shows-why-certain-iphone-games-shouldnt-be-played-on-the-subway
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10:42 <@efneTI92> [leofox] All we do in hell is play DDR!
10:54 <+kirsk> thats what you should do with iphones
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10:57 < bsparks> argh, damn iTunes
10:57 < bsparks> how hard is it to tell me how much of a playlist will fit on 1 cd?
10:58 < bsparks> now the debate is, stay up to finish burning these CDs, or, go to bed and let CD1 finish itself
10:58 <@E-J> very hard
10:58 <@E-J> bsparks: there is your ben
10:59 < bsparks> E-J, I forgot what I was going to ask him
10:59 < bsparks> something about his z80 computer, but I forgot
10:59 < bsparks> I got tangented by The White Tie Affair
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11:00 < bsparks> I disappointed him :(
11:02 < bsparks> all in all I am pleased with these CDs
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11:02 < bsparks> hopefully these are more under-the-radar songs :)
11:04 < bsparks> I wonder if the 2k5 Ford Taurus supports CDtext
11:04 <@benryves> Oh, red book audio? Kicking it oldschool. :D
11:05 < bsparks> totally
11:05 < bsparks> I found a program that will burn songs with lyrics
11:05 < bsparks> and if the 2k5 ford taurus supports CDtext this program will burn the lyrics in such a way that it will display
11:06 <@benryves> Because that's what you want in a car, the CD player to be flashing song lyrics at you.
11:06 < bsparks> well, true
11:06 < bsparks> but if it does lyrics, based off the IDE3 tags
11:06 < bsparks> I can make it say other things ;)
11:07 <@E-J> bsparks: you don't have mp3 cd player?
11:07 < bsparks> E-J, it's not my car o.o
11:07 < bsparks> but, no, it doesn't do mp3 cds
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11:08 < bsparks> I also find it amusing that this playlist is 2 CDs, so I am burning 1 CD starting with the NBC notes, and then the 2nd starting with the THX sound :D
11:33 < bsparks> ok, my goal for feb of 2k9 is to actually produce something from Fruity Loops or Garage Band
11:33 < bsparks> like, actual music
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14:00 < zeropod> redsn0w.com makes me happy
14:05 <+Netham45> fuck you, bsparks.
14:05 <@benryves> Why, Netham45?
14:28 < sir_lewk> mornin chaps
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14:28 <@benryves> Wotcha sir_lewk
14:29 < i_c-Y> hi
14:29 < sir_lewk> hello
14:29 <@benryves> 'lo i_c-Y
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14:33 < sir_lewk> poor i_c-Y has fail tubes :(
14:34 <@benryves> Hrm :(
14:35 < sir_lewk> neato, Qt is moving to LGPL from just GPL
14:36 < sir_lewk> now proprietary stuff can link it withought buying a license, hopefully we'll see it more now :)
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14:37 < sir_lewk> i_c-Y, i_c-Y, i_c-Y
14:37 < i_c-Y> sup
14:37 < sir_lewk> babe, you're clearly on a univ network, get yourself a *nix shell and use screen
14:38 < sir_lewk> your connection seems pained
14:41 < i_c-Y> its my irc client
14:42 < sir_lewk> hmmz
14:43 < sir_lewk> I'm in a good mood this morning so no irc client flamewars, k?
14:43 <@mokomull> I don't see how your poor mood is our problem =/
14:44 <@mokomull> What's up?
14:44 <@E-J> http://www.whatsmypass.com/?p=415
14:49 < sir_lewk> good mood != poor mood :P
14:50 <@benryves> E-J: Heh, #2 is suprisingly low. ;)
14:51 <@E-J> benryves: might be reason that there aren't only passwords that are used by people who speak english
14:51 <@benryves> So, sex and football. No surprises there
14:52 <@E-J> but no 666
14:52 <@mokomull> sir_lewk: Somehow I read a "not" in there.
14:52 < sir_lewk> :)
14:53 <@benryves> E-J: And no "swordfish".
14:53 <@E-J> :)
14:54 < sir_lewk> funny movie
14:55 <@benryves> I've only seen Duck Soup, and gave up half way through. :(
14:56 <@E-J> benryves: btw that movie's name in finnish is "salasana: swordfish" (salasana = password)
14:56 <@E-J> that's one word that have nice etymology, sala = secret-, sana = word
14:57 <@benryves> I'm referring to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swordfish_(password) , not the terrible 2001 film of the same name.
14:58 < sir_lewk> :)
14:58 <@benryves> (Well, I thought it was terrible). ;)
15:09 < sir_lewk> it was pretty horrid, kind of in a funny way though
15:09 < sir_lewk> like Hackers
15:10 <@benryves> Heh. :) Next on my list is The Wrestler.
15:13 < sir_lewk> hmm, haven't seen that one
15:14 <@benryves> Looks good, and it's Darren Aronofsky. It may restore my faith in the RoboCop remake.
15:14 <@Andy_J> sir_lewk: a good number of univ networks are crap
15:14 <@Andy_J> and some don't let you run background processes when you're not logged in
15:17 <@mokomull> I am quite happy that our University network is not crap.
15:17 < sir_lewk> hmm :S
15:17 <@mokomull> Especially since I work for Network Systems >_>
15:17 < sir_lewk> yeah, I'm allowed to do whatever I want on my CS account
15:18 <@mokomull> IRC is strictly forbidden from CS machines
15:18 <@Andy_J> they didn't really have a rule like that but there was a "you can't leave anything running when you log out" rule
15:18 <@E-J> mokomull: your cs sucks :)
15:19 <@Andy_J> they simply didn't have the machine power for it
15:19 <@E-J> if you check what irc server i use, you might find how things are here
15:20 <@Andy_J> I probably could get away with it on acm's box but I don't want to possibly get them in trouble
15:20 <@mokomull> Yeah, irc.tamu.edu was linked to EFnet, too, many moons ago.
15:20 < sir_lewk> my cs departmetn is relatively small and the admin is pretty cool
15:20 <@mokomull> Most of the rest of our office uses IRC from our shared generic server
15:25 <@E-J> sir_lewk: is your school also relatively small?
15:26 < sir_lewk> no, not really, it's just mainly an engineering school
15:27 < sir_lewk> CS is part of the engineering "school" of the university, but kind of seperate too
15:28 < sir_lewk> looks like about 20k students, 1.4k staff
15:28 <@Andy_J> It's not large, at any rate
15:28 < sir_lewk> no, smallish/medium
15:29 < sir_lewk> probably medium, a lot of 2k student schools around here
15:30 <@E-J> it's bigger than mine, but there is also differences between our countries
15:30 < sir_lewk> cripes, it's 65F in the office and my boss is wearing a winter coat...
15:30 < sir_lewk> E-J: yeah
15:30 <@E-J> tkk has now 15k students 3.3k staff
15:30 <@E-J> +and
15:30 <@Andy_J> akron has about 25k students
15:30 <@Andy_J> no idea on the staff
15:30 <@E-J> 5th biggest university in finland
15:31 <@E-J> soon to be 2nd biggest because we will go together with helsinki school of economics and university of art and design helsinki so then there will be 20k students or so
15:32 < sir_lewk> oh wow, my school is right across the street (literally) from the University of Penn, their student population is actually smaller but their campus is like 9000 times bigger
15:32 < sir_lewk> I thought their student population would be like 200k from their campus size :O
15:33 <@mokomull> hah
15:33 < sir_lewk> fusking ivy-league wannabes
15:33 <@E-J> helsinki university by far is biggest (38k students and 7.6k staff) and oldest (established 1640)
15:33 <@mokomull> We're I think the second largest university in Texas with 38k undegrads
15:34 < sir_lewk> I wonder what the largest university in the us is
15:34 <@benryves> E-J: 1209 \o/
15:34 <@mokomull> sir_lewk: That's what I thought about Rice 
15:34 < sir_lewk> benryves: nice
15:34 < sir_lewk> mokomull: the funny thing is, Penn technically *is* actually ivy league
15:34 <@E-J> mokomull: well helsinki uni has only 33k undergrads 
15:35 < sir_lewk> we make fun of them because they are next to us ;P
15:35 < sir_lewk> clearly their proximity to lameness indicates their own lameness
15:37 <@E-J> benryves: difference can be explained by thing that swedish brutally conquered finnish barbars, made us christians and made peace against russians in 1323
15:38 < sir_lewk> are most finish people originally of swedish origin?
15:38 <@benryves> E-J: Heh, Oxford's the oldest in the UK - c.1096
15:38 <@E-J> though moko's and others' country was populized by indians and buffalos that time
15:38 < sir_lewk> kind of like most americans arn't native american?
15:38 <@E-J> sir_lewk: finNish, nope, most finns are orginally finnish
15:39 < sir_lewk> oh, interesting
15:39 <@E-J> swedish people mostly live in coast
15:39 < sir_lewk> I should read up on european history, I'm practically clueless with it
15:40 < sir_lewk> romans->dark ages->WWI
15:40 < sir_lewk> that's about as much as I know ;)
15:40 <@E-J> not even columbus?
15:40 < sir_lewk> well, I know a *bit* :)
15:40 <@benryves> Europe didn't take part in WW2, either, that was an entirely US-driven affair. >_>
15:40 <@E-J> or that thing that vikings went to america in 600 or so
15:40 < sir_lewk> mostly english or french stuff though
15:41 < sir_lewk> benryves: I think germany was involved a little bit :P
15:41 <@benryves> sir_lewk: Oh, yes, sorry. ;)
15:41 < sir_lewk> no, I know 20th century european history decently well, just not before that :P
15:42 <@E-J> sir_lewk: finnish people came to finland from baltia 11k years ago, lapps are orginal people here
15:43 <@benryves> sir_lewk: Most history courses in the UK are concerned with UK history (but at least there's a lot of it). Some notable exceptions were the French revolution and apartheid in South Africa.
15:43 < sir_lewk> hmm
15:43 < sir_lewk> "European History" courses in US highschools are pretty much just UK history, some french stuff with the 100 year war business too
15:44 <@benryves> England and France loved a good scrap. :D
15:44 < sir_lewk> :D
15:44 < sir_lewk> most americans don't even know what "apartheid" is :S
15:45 <@benryves> The Eurostar (channel tunnel) used to stop at Waterloo in England, which I don't believe the French were very impressed by. :P
15:45 < sir_lewk> the most most americans know about south africa is from Lethal Weapon 2.  it's practically a taboo subject or something
15:45 < sir_lewk> hehe
15:46 <@E-J> benryves: before reading some parts of 3 musketeer saga, i didn't know that britain haven't always been monarchy
15:47 <@benryves> England not having a monarchy is news to me.
15:47 <@benryves> I mean, as long as we're talking after 700AD or so.
15:48 <@E-J> i'm talking this oliver cromwell guy
15:48 <@E-J> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_Cromwell
15:48 <@benryves> Oh, yes. That wasn't for very long, though.
15:49 < sir_lewk> technically the monarchy was just in exile then or something
15:49 <@benryves> I'm sure you've noticed that Sam Vimes in the Discworld books is based on Cromwell? :)
15:49 < sir_lewk> "on vacation" or something :)
15:49 <@E-J> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protectorate
15:49 < sir_lewk> haven't read any Discworld
15:49 <@benryves> E-J: Er, not Vimes himself, his ancestor who executed the last monarch of Ankh Morpork.
15:50 <@E-J> ah that one
15:50 <@E-J> i haven't thought about it
15:50 <@E-J> but since you mentioned it...
15:51 < sir_lewk> "In 1661, Oliver Cromwell's body was exhumed from Westminster Abbey, and was subjected to the ritual of a posthumous execution,"  hahahaha
15:51 <@E-J> btw, you said eurostar, we are planning our own http://www.hs.fi/english/article/No+EU+funding+forthcoming+for+Helsinki-Tallinn+train+tunnel/1135242694866
15:51 < sir_lewk> the US should build more trains :(
15:51 <@E-J> it's little longer tunnel if they ever make it
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15:51 <@benryves> E-J: Ah, that's cool. :D One of the tunnels is still closed here. :(
15:53 < sir_lewk> we should build a train from the US to Europe.  screw airplanes
15:53 < sir_lewk> across the artic or something
15:53 <@benryves> sir_lewk: Shame about those pesky fault lines.
15:53 < sir_lewk> maybe alaska->russia then across that continent
15:53 < sir_lewk> true
15:54 < sir_lewk> alaska<->russia has been discussed a bit, it'd be absolutely absurd though
15:54 <@benryves> It's not far, though, you can see Russia from Alaska. :P
15:55 < sir_lewk> lulz
15:55 <@benryves> I'm not sure if the USA will ever (or can ever) embrace public transport though. :\
15:55 < sir_lewk> the media would just deam it another bridge to nowhere ;)
15:56 < sir_lewk> meh, the US used to have a decent train/trolly system in a lot of places
15:56 <@benryves> Public transport works in the UK thanks to high population density and short distances.
15:56 < sir_lewk> henry ford did too good a job of killing it though :(
15:56 < sir_lewk> Eisenhower too, with all his freeways
15:56 < sir_lewk> the suburbs and freeways killed public transportation in the US
15:57 <@benryves> And currently trying to keep afloat the failing US car industry too.
15:57 < sir_lewk> that industry needs to burn
15:57 <@Andy_J> Don't get me started on their retarded bailout.
15:57 < sir_lewk> oh yeah
15:57 <@Andy_J> They've been fucking themselves over for long enough
15:57 <@Andy_J> I for one welcome our Japanese auto overlords.
15:57 < sir_lewk> truth
15:58 <@E-J> heh, bering strait is little wider than distance between helsinki and tallinn
15:58 < sir_lewk> hopefully people will start taking mass transit more seriously now
15:58 <@Andy_J> I wish it'd be feasible around here.
15:58 <@E-J> you can see tallinn from helsinki if weather is good
15:58 < sir_lewk> heck, I even support enviromental alarmism if it means more trains
15:58 <@E-J> and by tallinn i mean one tv tower
15:58 < sir_lewk> ah :)
15:59 <@Andy_J> If I get this job up by Cleveland I know they have decent busses and even some electric train/trolley things
15:59 <@Andy_J> there's one of the train things right by the office building
15:59 < sir_lewk> maybe you could see russia from alaska if by "alaska", you mean "us water, in an airplane"
15:59 <@Andy_J> so I just need to find an apartment near to that, if not just near to the building
15:59 <@Andy_J> :)
15:59 <@benryves> Heh :)
15:59 <@E-J> Andy_J: "train things" :)
15:59 <@Andy_J> You only need to be about 500 feet up, sir_lewk, IIRC
16:00 < sir_lewk> ah
16:00 <@Andy_J> isn't it just 50 miles?
16:00 < sir_lewk> well, palin is still an idiot
16:00 <@E-J> city isn't city if there isn't trams
16:00 < sir_lewk> I'm not really sure
16:00 <@Andy_J> oh god palin
16:00 < sir_lewk> forgive me for mentioning her name.  I'm trying to forget the horror
16:01 <@benryves> Aye, I was referencing Palin. On a good day you can see France from the cliffs of Dover in the UK (22 miles).
16:01 <@Andy_J> yeah, I try to forget about alaska now
16:01 < sir_lewk> my aunt is moving to alaska :-/
16:01 <@mokomull> E-J: Yeah, we're the oldest public institution in Texas, founded in ... damn, I really should know this ... 1871
16:02 < sir_lewk> lulz, so you were orignally a mexican school?
16:02 <@Andy_J> benryves: as DSP_Lord would say, "byewbyew"
16:02 <@Andy_J> >_>
16:02 <@Andy_J> @ cliffs of dover
16:02 <@E-J> mokomull: ha, tkk was founded 1849 :)
16:02 <@benryves> Andy_J: Hah :D
16:03 < sir_lewk> hmm, 1891 for my school
16:03 <@E-J> benryves: you are still using imperical units?
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16:04 <@benryves> E-J: I try not to, but the British are fixated with them. :(
16:04 < sir_lewk> silly backwards british folks
16:04 < sir_lewk> oh wait...
16:04 < sir_lewk> >.>
16:04  * mokomull punches sir_lewk 
16:04 < sir_lewk> metric ftw
16:04 <@benryves> E-J: *34km
16:04 < sir_lewk> the US sucks for using those weird units
16:05 <@E-J> you should move to australia
16:05 <@mokomull> Fuck that, I like my freedom thank you very much.
16:05 <@E-J> they use metrics
16:05 <@mokomull> :P
16:05 < sir_lewk> yeah, I like the internet
16:05 <@E-J> ...but they still drive in wrong side of streer
16:05 <@mokomull> It's pretty sad when a country has less freedom than the US :)
16:05 <@E-J> street*
16:06 < sir_lewk> the australian government hates the internet, and free speach in general :S
16:06 <@benryves> Heh, gotta love Escape from L.A. >_>
16:06 < sir_lewk> E-J: what side is that?
16:06 < sir_lewk> lol, that's a good movie
16:06 <@E-J> sir_lewk: british side
16:06 <@Andy_J> lolstralia
16:06 < sir_lewk> ah, so in finland you drive on the right?
16:06 <@E-J> yep
16:07 < sir_lewk> coolz
16:07 <@benryves> UK ISPs have been censoring the web recently
16:07 <@E-J> not the wrong side
16:07 <@Andy_J> the right side \m/
16:07 <@Andy_J> (see what I did ther?)
16:07 < sir_lewk> benryves: you also have that ad stuff, whatever it's called
16:07 <@benryves> sir_lewk: Phorm
16:07 < sir_lewk> yeah
16:07 < sir_lewk> eww :-/
16:08 < sir_lewk> of course, America ISPs love redefining "unlimited"
16:09 <@benryves> Oh, we have unlimited* here, too.
16:09 <@E-J> some isps here use child porn censoring
16:09 < sir_lewk> "oh, didn't you know?  your unlimited plan is limited to 200 GB!" *facepalm*
16:09 <@benryves> E-J: Yep, that's what got the UK ISPs going recently, blocking access to the Wikipedia article on the famous Scorpions album cover.
16:10 < sir_lewk> supposedly the "unlimited" part is time, not download.  that's bullshit when they are advertizing a certian pipe size though
16:10 <@E-J> but atleast we have really unlimited plans
16:10 <@mokomull> sir_lewk: Luckily my ISP is too stupid to manage to even bill for that :P
16:10 <@benryves> Now it looks like they're blocking archive.org - http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/01/14/demon_muzzles_wayback_machine/
16:10 < sir_lewk> mokomull: yeah, I have verison fios right now.  they are actually decent
16:10 <@mokomull> I have Suddenlink :X
16:10 <@Andy_J> I want fios
16:11 <@mokomull> Most people do :P
16:11 <@Andy_J> I'd actually *use* it
16:11 < sir_lewk> I used to have comcast (back at my parents house). they were the definition of "suck"
16:11 <@mokomull> I really want a 10gE line, but I can wish :P
16:11 <@Andy_J> sir_lewk: weird, some comcast lines are orgasmic
16:11 < sir_lewk> my grandparents have fios, they probably use maybe 5 MB per month
16:11 < sir_lewk> tops
16:11 < sir_lewk> Andy_J: yeah, but you still have to put up with their shit
16:11 <@benryves> "Up to 8mb" is the standard UK residential connection, which is what we use.
16:12 <@Andy_J> I move too many files around to put up with 4/512 very long
16:12 <@Andy_J> 512 is too damn slow upload
16:12 < Nikky> pirate
16:12 <@E-J> hmmm i think we have some similar to fios here
16:12 < sir_lewk> 200 GB cap, deceptive billing, etc
16:12 <@Andy_J> I'm not even going to get into this, Nikky 
16:12 <@E-J> Andy_J: and i think my 1M upload is slow :)
16:12 <@mokomull> Andy_J: I come to work when I need to upload ... 100Mbit :)
16:12 < sir_lewk> nice
16:13 <@benryves> mokomull: Do you find many sites let you download at that speed? Microsoft were the only ones last time I had access to that sort of connection, most other sites throttled to about 128k. :(
16:13 <@mokomull> It's also nice that we have an Ubuntu/Debian/Arch/OpenSuSE/FreeBSD mirror on campus
16:13 <@E-J> apparently cable provider have 110/5
16:14 <@mokomull> benryves: We have amazing links to the internet, so we don't quite saturate them
16:14 <@E-J> and 100/10
16:15 <@mokomull> As far as sites that can handle that speed ... I usually don't care :P
16:15 <@E-J> and that 110/5 is more expensive
16:16 <@mokomull> and yay my whole office is in a meeting :P
16:22 < sir_lewk> woo
16:42 < sir_lewk> hey folks, how do I use a 'scanf' type deal on an istream?
16:42 <@Andy_J> man scanf?
16:42 <@benryves> sir_lewk: >> ?
16:43 < sir_lewk> yeah, I'm overloading >>
16:43 < sir_lewk> meh, screw this, I'll just make a constructor that takes a file descriptor
16:44 <@benryves> sir_lewk: Do you even need to overload it?
16:44 < sir_lewk> no
16:44 < sir_lewk> well, I have an overloaded <<, I don't need a >> though
16:44 < sir_lewk> (I'm doing serialization shit right now)
16:46 <@benryves> Looks like http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-gb/library/13fakt4z.aspx for example can be used to read input in different bases.
16:46 <@mokomull> Basically, the C++ input shit sucks giant donkey balls
16:47 < sir_lewk> yeah, that's what I'm getting
16:48 <@benryves> Hurrah for XmlSerializer :P
16:48 <@mokomull> benryves: YOU SHOULD BE SHOT
16:48 <@benryves> mokomull: Why's that?
16:48 <@mokomull> XML is good for documents, not data
16:48 <@mokomull> :P
16:48 <@mokomull> Actually, it's only marginally good for documents, too
16:49 <@benryves> How are documents not data?
16:49 < sir_lewk> if I were to do: ifstream in("somefile"); is there some way I can get a file descriptor for using with fscanf?
16:49 < sir_lewk> or should I just do this C-like straight through?
16:49 <@mokomull> sir_lewk: You're looking for a FILE* and not a "file descriptor", and ... *shrug*
16:49 <@benryves> sir_lewk: If you're going to use C you may as well just go with straight C.
16:49 < sir_lewk> yeah, whatever it's called
16:49 < sir_lewk> alright
16:50 <@mokomull> I'm sorry, benryves, I'm a little bitter because every damn .NET and Java framework somehow decides XML is the best language to write a configuration file in
16:50 < sir_lewk> because scanf is really meant to do *exactly* what I'm trying to do :)
16:50  * sir_lewk was considering XML for a while... ;)
16:50 <@benryves> mokomull: Hah. I agree that XML is no silver bullet, but it's pretty generic and easy to work with.
16:51 <@benryves> I find JSON is nicer (as a human being) though.
16:51 <@mokomull> Or YAML
16:51 <@E-J> xml and tla ftw
16:51 <@mokomull> TLA?
16:51 <@E-J> 3-letter acronym
16:51 <@mokomull> Two Lazy Asses?
16:51 < sir_lewk> Three Large Apricots
16:52 <@mokomull> Ten Lewd Alcoholics
16:52 <@E-J> yaml is xtla
16:52 < sir_lewk> Thirty Lithuanian Astronauts
16:52 <@mokomull> Twelve Lanky Armrests
16:53 <@benryves> ♬ and a partridge in a pear tree ♫
16:53 < sir_lewk> hahaha
16:53 <@mokomull> and benryves waltzes through with his fancy-schmancy Unicode
16:55 < sir_lewk> in c++, when you << a bool do you get true/false or 1/0?
16:56 <@mokomull> sir_lewk: Doesn't matter!
16:56  * benryves is going to vote for unspecified
16:56 <@mokomull> (int)(true) => 1
16:56 < sir_lewk> can I read the string "true" in as a bool with scanf?
16:56 <@benryves> mokomull: That always seemed backwards to me. At least BASIC got it right.
16:57 <@mokomull> Why is that backwards?
16:57 <@benryves> mokomull: I'd expect true to equal -1
16:57 <@mokomull> Why is that?
16:57 <@Andy_J> every bit is set
16:58 <@Andy_J> er.
16:58  * Andy_J needs to wake up more
16:58 <@benryves> There's the obvious neatness of the binary representation (all ones), and a one-bit signed value can either be 0 or -1.
16:58 <@Andy_J> oh right I was right
16:58 <@mokomull> hehe
16:58 <@Andy_J> guess I'm more awake than I thought
16:58 <@mokomull> benryves: But a one-bit unsigned value can either be 0 or 1
16:58 <@mokomull> :)
16:58 < sir_lewk> hmm, does 1
16:58 <@Andy_J> .ini file > *
16:58 <@benryves> Also, ~(-1) = 0
16:59 < sir_lewk> cout << test << endl; returns 1 where test is a bool set to true
16:59 < sir_lewk> cool
16:59 <@Andy_J> I use one for a largeish java project, made my own parser that just dumps it into a hashmap :p
17:00 <@benryves> I use INI files as savestates in my emulator (well, lots of different INI files, one per component, but all zipped up into a single file).
17:00 <@Andy_J> Much simpler than xml
17:00 <@Andy_J> and so much easier to parse
17:00 <@benryves> Not in Java or .NET, though.
17:00 <@Andy_J> Lies.
17:01 <@benryves> XML is piss-easy to parse in .NET, at least. :P
17:01 <@Andy_J> http://tcpa.pastebin.com/d1248444f
17:01 <@Andy_J> how is that not easy? :)
17:01 <@Andy_J> cm.getConfigValue("Some Key")
17:01 <@Andy_J> :p
17:02 <@benryves> Does Java not support indexers? :(
17:02 <@Andy_J> dunno
17:02 <@Andy_J> but that took all of 5 minutes to write
17:02 <@benryves> ie, cm["Some Key"]
17:02 <@Andy_J> and works well enough :p
17:02 < sir_lewk> fscanf(in, "OBJECT %s STARTNAME %s ENDNAME EQUIPABLE %d ONMAP %d XY %d %d WEIGHT %d VALUE %d SYMBOL %c ENDOBJECT", ...
17:02 <@Andy_J> oh, no
17:02 <@Andy_J> that'd be overloading
17:02 < sir_lewk> tell me that's not a thing of beauty :)
17:02 <@Andy_J> overloading is bad :p
17:02 <@benryves> Which is why Java vehemently opposes it, then hacks in a special case for strings.
17:02 <@Andy_J> (or at least that's what java wants you to think)
17:03 <@mokomull> sir_lewk: does it work? :P
17:03 < sir_lewk> who knows
17:03 <@mokomull> %s matches anything but whitespace
17:03 < sir_lewk> I still have a ton more to implement before I can test it :)
17:03 <@Andy_J> granted I used .conf instead of .ini
17:03 < sir_lewk> wait...
17:03 <@Andy_J> but eh.
17:03 <@mokomull> And you should probably use nscanf if you don't want buffer overflows
17:03 <@benryves> Andy_J: Though I suppose there's no technical reason why you couldn't write a compiler extension or similar, all they are in .NET is a regular method call with a bit of metadata.
17:04 < sir_lewk> so if I enter "hello world" and have scanf do "%s", it'll only pick up "hello"?
17:04 <@mokomull> Yes.
17:04  * benryves prescribes regexps :P
17:04 < sir_lewk> shitfucks
17:04 < sir_lewk> benryves: yeah, no kidding
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17:04 <@mokomull> scanf can't act as a grammar parser :P
17:05 < sir_lewk> is there an easy way to do that with c++?
17:05 <@mokomull> sir_lewk: Look into spirit.
17:05 < sir_lewk> eh, I don't what even more dependancies
17:05 <@Andy_J> The only problem with that parser is that you can't have = in the value anywhere
17:06 <@Andy_J> it wouldn't be hard to fix it to work with it
17:06 <@Andy_J> but I don't need = in the value in that project
17:06 <@mokomull> sir_lewk: Boost libraries are generally well worth the cost.
17:06 < sir_lewk> hmm
17:06 < sir_lewk> I'm trying to keep this at just SDL or ncurses, and the SDL
17:06 < sir_lewk> err
17:06 <@mokomull> STL
17:06 <@mokomull> :P
17:07 < sir_lewk> standard library
17:07 < sir_lewk> yeah
17:07 < sir_lewk> fruedian slip :)
17:07 <@mokomull> STL and Standard C++ Library are two different beasts, you know that.
17:07 < sir_lewk> whatever
17:07 < sir_lewk> standard shit
17:07 <@mokomull> Both are mostly implemented on most C++ compilers :P
17:07 < sir_lewk> whatever you could reasonably expect to see in C++
17:08 < sir_lewk> vectors and shit
17:08 <@benryves> sir_lewk: So you're discounting boost as well?
17:08 <@mokomull> Vectors are part of the STL.  iostream is part of the Standard Library.
17:08 < sir_lewk> benryves: unless I have to use it
17:08 <@mokomull> You should look at it, at least
17:08 < sir_lewk> I guess
17:08 <@mokomull> It offers some really nice things
17:09 < chronomex> hey
17:09 <@mokomull> You really should at the very least know what's out there, so you don't end up reinventing the wheel poorly
17:09 <@benryves> viz, boost::spirit
17:09 < sir_lewk> meh, so long as it builds and runs I'm happy for now
17:09 <@mokomull> You need code reviews :)
17:10 < sir_lewk> blah
17:10 < sir_lewk> you know what
17:11 < sir_lewk> is there some way I could handle all the serialization stuff with perl?
17:11 < sir_lewk> perl has sweet regex, that's all I really need
17:11 <@mokomull> You could just use boost::regex
17:11 <@mokomull> :)
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17:11 < sir_lewk> rawr
17:11 <@benryves> http://www.boost.org/doc/libs/1_37_0/libs/regex/doc/html/boost_regex/syntax/perl_syntax.html *cough*
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17:12 < sir_lewk> yeah yeah, boost
17:12 < sir_lewk> fuck, I should rewrite this whole damn thing in perl
17:12 < sir_lewk> fuck c++
17:13 <@benryves> sir_lewk: Heh, most C++ programmers I know adopt Boost as a standard part of their toolkit.
17:13  * sir_lewk submits and installs boost
17:13 < sir_lewk> you win
17:13 < sir_lewk> but my next RL is in perl
17:16 < sir_lewk> you know what would beat the shit out of serialization for this program?  some sort of VM type deal, kind of like a debugger, that acted as a wrapper for the program
17:16 < sir_lewk> whenever you wanted to save it'd just hibernate the process to a file
17:16 < sir_lewk> hibernating individual processes would be awesome.
17:17 <@benryves> sir_lewk: Heh, would be easy enough in .NET. Only complication is lack of full coroutine support. :P
17:19 < sir_lewk> yeah, I imagine it'd be technically simple in interpreted languages, or languages that already have a VM kinda thing going on
17:19 < sir_lewk> like Java
17:19 <@Andy_J> sir_lewk: That won't work. See http://blogs.msdn.com/oldnewthing/archive/2004/04/20/116749.aspx
17:20 < sir_lewk> I remain unconvinced
17:20 <@Andy_J> You'd have to have predetermined suspend points in the program itself
17:20 <@Andy_J> regardless of language
17:20 < sir_lewk> should be possible with a decently simple program and a decently complicated hibernation and resuming system
17:20 <@Andy_J> the program has to know it could be suspended there so it would have to clean up all its OS stuff (file handles, etc.)
17:21 <@Andy_J> The instant you open a file, you can't do it.
17:21 < sir_lewk> yeah
17:21 <@Andy_J> No matter how complex you make it.
17:21 < sir_lewk> blah
17:21 < sir_lewk> magic
17:21 < sir_lewk> someone should do it with magic then.
17:22 <@Andy_J> Just read the last paragraph.
17:22 <@Andy_J> Do it yourself in natural code in whatever language you're using.
17:23 < sir_lewk> suppose you just didn't handle those types of situtations, it'd probably just tank out and flip, but it *might* work
17:24 <@Andy_J> it wouldn't be worth it
17:24 < sir_lewk> ie, who cares if the file was deleted, just crash
17:24 <@benryves> Andy_J: "You'd have to have predetermined suspend points in the program itself" - with coroutines that would at least make life easier. C# only supports them in enumerators, though.
17:25 < sir_lewk> like, if someone deletes their savefile anyways, their shit is lost, who cares if the program has to crash first as well
17:25 <@Andy_J> You'll never see it in a mainstream OS
17:25 <@benryves> Certainly not in unmanaged code.
17:25 <@Andy_J> His point about USB storage is probably the largest reason.
17:25 < sir_lewk> granted, but it'd work for the limited demands of my roguelike I think
17:25 <@Andy_J> Certainly not ever.
17:26 <@benryves> Andy_J: It would be fragile but certainly more practical in managed languages.
17:27 < sir_lewk> the only file shit I really *need* to use is stdin and stdout
17:28 < sir_lewk> ok, screw boost, I'm not learning something new right now
17:28 < sir_lewk> I'll just do this different
17:28 <@Andy_J> You'd have to redraw the ENTIRE screen EVERY time.
17:28 < sir_lewk> meh, oh well
17:29 < sir_lewk> ncurses knows what the entire screen looks like, the terminal would just have to signal a size change or something
17:30 < sir_lewk> actually, I think it can tell when the terminal needs to be redrawn for abnormal reasons anyways
17:37 < sir_lewk> ok, is there an elegant way of getting a C++ string from an entire line from a FILE*?
17:38 < sir_lewk> I'm about to fgets it to a char array and convert that over.  seems like a really stupid way though
17:38 <@benryves> That's C[++] for you :P
17:39 < sir_lewk> at this point I'd be far more comfortable with just C :-/
17:40 < sir_lewk> wait, duh
17:40 < sir_lewk> getline
17:50  * sir_lewk destroys a million babies in a fit of rage at c++
17:50 <@benryves> sir_lewk: I'm so glad you're coming around to my point of view. :)
17:51 < sir_lewk> scanf + csrings == wtf
17:51 < sir_lewk> *cstrings
17:51 < sir_lewk> the solution to all of this is to just screw human readible savefiles
17:52 < sir_lewk> which isn't a terribly bad idea actually
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17:55 < sir_lewk> just pass an istream to the function, >> in all the regular stuff, getline the name. be done with it
17:55 < sir_lewk> *ifstream
17:56 < ports-> http://www.digitalalchemy.tv/2008/09/natalie-dylan-virgin-auction-photos.html
17:56 < ports-> holy shit
17:56 < ports-> shes not worth that much money
17:57 < sir_lewk> yeah
17:57 <+kirsk> plus she wont know fuck all what to do
17:58 < ports-> ?
17:58 <+kirsk> virgin
17:59 < ports-> yes i know
17:59 < ports-> i hope shes been studying
17:59 < ports-> because if the sex isnt worth 3.7 million..
17:59 <+kirsk> so even if she was free it wouldnt be all that great a deal
17:59 < ports-> she might wake up dead in a ditch
17:59 <+kirsk> true
17:59 < ports-> virgin sex is awesome
17:59 <+kirsk> i should auction mine
17:59 < ports-> its trophy sex
17:59 <+kirsk> but for cute alt chicks only
18:00 < ports-> ok
18:01 < ports-> i dont get you
18:01 <+kirsk> ?
18:06 < sir_lewk> kirsk is kirsk
18:06 < sir_lewk> what's not to get?
18:07 <+kirsk> *krisk is kirsk
18:08 <+kirsk> eh i just like cute girls with pale skin, the joke escalates from there
18:08 <+kirsk> and i dont mind alt style clothing on them
18:08 <+kirsk> nomnom
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18:17 < sir_lewk> kirsk: this channel does not support cannibalism
18:19 <+kirsk> but theyre so cute i could eat them
18:20 <+kirsk> in more way than one
18:23 < Speler> Cannibalism is the cure
18:23 < leofox> then what is the disease
18:24 <+kirsk> love
18:24 < Speler> I dunno
18:24 < Speler> It's a son
18:24 < Speler> song*
18:24 < sir_lewk> "< leofox> then what is the disease
18:24 < sir_lewk> " Zombism
18:25 < Speler> It's by this band http://www.myspace.com/getsetgo
18:27 < ports-> idiots
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18:39 <+kirsk> http://zip.4chan.org/fit/src/1231951227114.jpg
18:39 <+kirsk> i am a heron. i ahev a long neck and i pick fish out of the water w/ my beak. if you dont repost this post on 10 other chats i will fly into your kitchen tonight and make a mess of your pots and pans
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18:50 <@benryves> kirsk: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/suffolk/7829380.stm
18:50 <+kirsk> lulz
18:51 <+kirsk> nice find : )
18:51 <@benryves> 'twas on the front page of the BBC News. :D
18:51 <+kirsk> lol fun
18:52 < leofox> een reiger!
18:52 <+kirsk> oei!
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19:03 < Nikky> haha, bbc
19:03 <+kirsk> haha, nikky
19:03 < Nikky> Hi kirsk :)
19:04 <+kirsk> hey
19:04 < Nikky> I missed you.
19:04  * mokomull glomps Nikky 
19:04 <+kirsk> awww :(
19:04 <@E-J> i wonder why finnish fish finger episode at school hasn't been yet on any english news service
19:04  * Nikky missed mokomull way more though.
19:04 <+kirsk> thats ok
19:05 <@E-J> csi ->
19:05 < Nikky> <3 CSI
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19:16 < _Auron_> wheeeeeee
19:19  * _Auron_ has a 2:45 interview/application in ft. worth
19:21 <@E-J> Nikky: we are on season when sara sidle left
19:25 < Nikky> http://post.thestranger.com/images/blogimages/2009/01/14/1231957886_superbowlbio.jpg
19:25  * sir_lewk takes a break from serialization to breath, then dives back in
19:25 < sir_lewk> D:
19:26 < Nikky> :( :( http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7829267.stm :( :(
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19:43 < Nikky> Hi
19:45 < Nikky> http://sicode.ticalc.org/
19:47 < Nikky> I see calc.org is still sucking it
19:47 < Nikky> http://www.unitedti.org/index.php?act=Reg&CODE=00
19:47 < Nikky> those are the most hilarious rules ever
19:50 < _Auron_> meaningless posts like "me too" or "O RLY"
19:56 < Nikky> O RLY
19:57 <@E-J> Nikky: dolphins aren't animals?-)
19:57 < sir_lewk> nope
19:57 < Nikky> They're our overlords.
19:57 < sir_lewk> dolphins are a type of vegetable
19:58 < sir_lewk> related to the carrot
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21:04 < sir_lewk> http://codepad.org/ycdOXBSR lolgenerated code
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21:28 < Merth_> l
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21:36 <@E-J> http://www.psfk.com/2009/01/concept-cadillac-designed-to-run-for-a-100-years-without-refueling.html
21:37 < sir_lewk> lol
21:39 < Damakaru> *Wonders why a college would throttle student's bandwidth down to dial-up speed.*
21:39 < Damakaru> * s'
21:40 < Merthsoft> cause they know students pirate
21:44 <@E-J> some years ago there was "slow list" in my uni's campus network, if you uploaded stuff outside campus network (and outside funet) over 14G per week you ended up to that slow list
21:44 <@E-J> which was something like 256/256
21:44 < Damakaru> Sure, but two to four kilobytes is a bit harsh...
21:45 <@E-J> when normal connection was 100M/65M
21:45 <@E-J> and that slow list connection was shared by other slow list users
21:45 < Merthsoft> yeah we have something like that
21:45 < Nikky> whoo
21:45 < Nikky> apple is boned
21:46 < Nikky> www.drudgereport.com
21:46 <@E-J> after they transfered from static ip:s to dynamic ip:s, that system was abandoned
21:47 < Nikky> we don't have any slow list
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21:47 <@efneTI92> [rivereye] Is it time to go fishing?
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21:56 < _Auron_> whee, I might be employed in the next week.
21:57 <+kirsk> wheee
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22:30 < Tari> whoo
22:30 < Tari> -40 wind chill tomorrow
22:31 < Tari> -20-ish ignoring wind
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22:35 <+kirsk> omg this girl said marilyn manson's cover of you spin me right round is a great song to have playing during sex
22:35 <+kirsk> now i cant think of anything else when i hear it <_<
22:36 < Tari> haha
22:36 < Tari> http://ofon.org/pic/3.jpg
22:36 < Tari> looks like cthulu
22:36 <+kirsk> yeah cthulumole
22:36 < _Auron_> lolwhathefu
22:36 <+kirsk> ultrasensitive blabla uses it to hunt earthworms n stuff
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22:49 <+Netham45> woo
22:49 <+Netham45> finally got Windows 7 to join AD.
22:49 <+kirsk> woe
22:49 <@mokomull> You crazy bitch.
22:50 <@efneTI92> [Netham45] Narf!
22:50 < _Auron_> so hopefully I can put my sales experience to good use and make about $1k/week
22:52  * Merthsoft has an abscessed tooth and no dental insurance :/
22:52 < _Auron_> D:
22:52 < _Auron_> that sucks really bad
22:53 < _Auron_> I've had an minor abscess at my tailbone for the past 2 years because it won't heal and because I don't have health insurance
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23:24 <+kirsk> how are you going to make 4k a month?
23:26 < _Auron_> $12/hr plus $15 per sale, with extra commission bonuses
23:26 < _Auron_> which'll bump up to $18/hr after a month or two
23:26 < _Auron_> and I'm going to be working fulltime
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23:29 < Merthsoft> 12/hr = 24000 a year. 2k a month. 18/hr = 36000 a year. 3k a month
23:30 < Merthsoft> you'd need 27 sales per day at 12/hr and 15/sale to make 4k a month
23:31 <+kirsk> selling what?
23:31 < _Auron_> autombile service cards at a pretty good price
23:31 < _Auron_> Merthsoft: and eventually $1k/week, not starting obviously
23:32 < _Auron_> 40 hours a week at 18/hr and 20 sales per week.. 18*40+20*15 = $1020
23:32 < _Auron_> every 250 sales made since I start working is another $1/sale, so that $15/sale increases over time
23:33 <+kirsk> and 20 sales per week is expectable?
23:34 < _Auron_> if I work 6 days a week and make a couple of sales each day, yeah.
23:34 < _Auron_> there's a minimum of 6 per week but they say it's not hard to make that, and most people get at least 15. 20 is a nice goal, and it's possible to make upwards of 30 if you really try
23:35 < Merthsoft> but at first it's 480 a week (which is still good)
23:35 < _Auron_> no kidding
23:35 < Merthsoft> well, congrats!
23:35 < _Auron_> that's almost as much as 2 weeks of work that I made at office depot, and more than I made at my last office job
23:35 < _Auron_> I don't have the job yet, they'll give me a call by next week's friday, but he said my sales experience definitely helps
23:36 < Merthsoft> awesome
23:36 < _Auron_> and I talked with the district manager too :X
23:36 < _Auron_> seemed like a really cool guy
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23:40 < Nikky> I'm a pimp.
23:40 < Nikky> Want some hos Merthsoft?
23:40 < _Auron_> lol
23:41 < _Auron_> I've been in a good mood since I got back from that interview
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23:41 <@efneTI92> [Netham45] Narf!
23:41 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Netham45] by efneTI86
23:41 < Nikky> Well, your mood is bad now.
23:41 < Nikky> Netham45 just showed up
23:41 <+Netham45> deal with it, bitches.
23:42 < _Auron_> I love netham
23:42 < _Auron_> He's so adorable.
23:42 <+Netham45> <3
23:42 < _Auron_> <3
23:43 < Merthsoft> Nikky: Yes!
23:44 <+Netham45> hmm
23:44 < Nikky> !topic Welcome to TCPA | http://tcpa.calcg.org | http://www.junemann.nl/maxcoderz/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=2736
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23:44 <+Netham45> my mouse doesn't work when I resume from standby on win7
23:45 < Nikky> Windows sucks.
23:45 < Nikky> Although to be honest, I was a winfag in high school too
23:45 < Nikky> Passionately arguing for windows
23:45 < chronomex> I wasn't :)
23:45 < Nikky> then I saw the truth
23:45 < Merthsoft> i prefer windows
23:45 < Nikky> chronomex: You were born using emacs.
23:45 < Merthsoft> and i'm not in highscool
23:45 <+Netham45> :O
23:45 <+Netham45> KKKKKHHHHHAAAAANNNNNN
23:45 < Merthsoft> i've used linux and it's ok i guess
23:45 <+Netham45> is dead
23:45 < chronomex> Nikky: actually, no, I was weaned using it though.
23:45 < _Auron_> khan is dead
23:45 < _Auron_> yes
23:46 < Nikky> Star Trek, lulz
23:46 < Nikky> guys
23:46 < Nikky> The Prisoner is dead
23:46 < Nikky> that's way bigger news
23:46 < _Auron_> who?
23:46 < Nikky> Khan was a 2-bit nobody
23:46 < Nikky> zomg _Auron_ and you call yourself a nerd?
23:46 < Merthsoft> if i had a server, i'd totally use linux
23:46 < _Auron_> I call myself nothing. :)
23:46 < Nikky> http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=aOXArKrIFGuE&refer=us
23:47 < _Auron_> I've seriously never heard of that show
23:47 < Nikky> wowww
23:50 < Nikky> :)
23:51  * Nikky kisses _Auron_ 
23:51 < chronomex> what show?
23:51 < Spengo> goodbye sweet prince
23:51 < chronomex> o
23:51 < Spengo> or goodnight as it were
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23:52 < Nikky> chronomex: The Prisoner, duh
23:52 < chronomex> ...
23:52 < chronomex> what
23:52 < Nikky> ...
23:52 < Nikky> :(
23:52 < _Auron_> I'm not the only one :P
23:52  * Nikky goes and hides
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23:56 < Merthsoft> i've never heard of it either
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23:56 < ports> holy shit
23:56 < ports> its hot in Rochelle, IL
23:56 < ports> its gone from -11F last night to a +1F
23:57 < _Auron_> lol
23:57 < _Auron_> it goes from 30F to 70F every day in texas
23:57 < ports> who gives a shit about texas?
23:57 < _Auron_> your greasy granny does
23:57 < ports> shes dead.
23:58 < _Auron_> did I not mention the greasy part?
23:58  * Nikky kisses ports 
23:58 < Nikky> Move to washington state
23:58 < Nikky> and be with chronomex 
23:58 < ports> Nikky, lol
23:58 < chronomex> yes
23:58 < chronomex> us
23:58 < ports> first of all.. fuck off :P
23:58 < chronomex> come visit us
23:58 < _Auron_> join the collective
23:58 < ports> and i do what to visit Seattle
23:58 < chronomex> mmmmm
23:58 < chronomex> ussss
23:58 <+kirsk> question: what do you call someone who helps mentally disabled people with some group outings and activities?
23:58 < Nikky> the collective is the UW's improv group
23:58 < ports> im probably going there for my next vacation
23:58 <+kirsk> guide?
23:58 < ports> kirsk, A Retard Manager
23:58 <+kirsk> teehee
23:58 < Nikky> ^
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