--- Log opened Fri Jan 09 00:00:07 2009
00:00 < Damakaru> You're into masochism or something?
00:03 < Ox40Work> Nikky has feelings?
00:03 <@Nikky> I do, yes.
00:03 <@Nikky> I'm actually a rather emotionally sensitive person.
00:03 < Ox40Work> Figures.
00:04 <@Nikky> I know, right
00:04 <@Nikky> I also like shopping
00:04 <@Nikky> cute puppies
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00:05 <@Nikky> hi
00:06 < Ovan> hello
00:06 <@Nikky> How are you?
00:09 < Damakaru> I think you came on a little too strong.  :P
00:10 <@Nikky> :(
00:10  * Nikky doesn't try to be mean
00:10 < _Auron_> ugh my eyes have been irritated all day
00:10 < Damakaru> Visine?
00:10 <@Nikky> crack
00:10 < _Auron_> slightest bit of air makes them hurt and water up
00:11 < Ovan> fine...
00:11 < _Auron_> if I turn off the fan my eyes feel better but then it gets really hot in here
00:14 < Damakaru> Ghetto solution involves a pool, cold water, and offers ice as an optional feature.
00:14 < _Auron_> ?
00:17 < Ovan> I think that's just Damakaru saying unconsion ideas
00:18 < Damakaru> Well, you'll be cool, won't you?  :P
00:19 < Ovan> I guess
00:19 < Ovan> fill your room with 200lbs of dry ice
00:19 < Ovan> =P
00:22 < Ovan> wow
00:22 < Ovan> 13 Guests
00:22 < Ovan> starting to get active =D
00:23 < Damakaru> Logged into your computer?  That can't be good.
00:23 < Ovan> no
00:24 < Ovan> nvm =P
00:28 < Ox40Work> YAY
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00:29 < Ox40Work> I get to put my comptuer together tonight!
00:29 < Ox40Work> <dance type="happy">
00:30 < _Auron_> k
00:30 -!- Ox40Work was kicked from #tcpa by Nikky [</dance>]
00:31 <@Nikky> He didn't close the tag!
00:31 < _Auron_> lol
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00:36 < Damakaru> </dance> <!-- Fixed -->
00:37 <@Nikky> thanks
00:37 <@Nikky> I was thinking abotu that too
00:37 <@Nikky> and if a kick close really does close it
00:38 <+kirsk> i would say it already got closed by the kick
00:38 <+kirsk> all involved clients would have read both unless configured wierdly
00:38 <@Nikky> yeah
00:38 <@Nikky> I'm still leaning that it... won't close it though
00:39 < _Auron_> lawd: http://code.google.com/p/dolphin-emu/source/detail?r=1829
00:39 < Damakaru> He hasn't returned yet, so perhaps it is too late.
00:40 < Damakaru> He is stuck in an eternal dance, waiting for ending tag.
00:41 < i_c-Y> or he realized he just broke his computer
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00:43 < i_c-Y> still at work?
00:43 < Ox40Work> Jup
00:44 < Ox40Work> 17 minutes left.
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00:45 <@efneTI92> [Grue_] It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
00:45 <+kirsk> hej you work later now
00:46 < i_c-Y> thats because he chose not to go to college
00:46 <+kirsk> oh?
00:46 < i_c-Y> and didnt finish highschool
00:47 <@Nikky> he went to a god school
00:48 < Ox40Work> I finished Highschool
00:48 <@Nikky> pics or it didn't happen
00:49 < Ox40Work> :P Ill take a pic of my diploma some ady
00:49 < Ox40Work> No, I work late on Thursdays.
00:49 <@Nikky> I have no idea where my diploma is
00:49 <@Nikky> I don't think I picked it up
00:49 < Ox40Work> Mon, Tue, Fri, Sat == 8.30-17.00
00:50 < Damakaru> Mine is thrown up in the diploma book on the dresser.
00:50 < Ox40Work> Thur == 10.00-19.00 (Winter), 11-20.00 (Summer)
00:50 < i_c-Y> Damakaru: diploma book?
00:50 < Merthsoft> i have a pocket diploma
00:50 < Merthsoft> little laminated diploma in my wallet
00:50 <@Nikky> haha
00:50 < i_c-Y> srsly?
00:50 <@Nikky> that's awesome
00:50 < Merthsoft> ya
00:50 < i_c-Y> pics
00:51 < Ox40Work> :P
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00:51 < Ox40Work> ALMOST .... Done!
00:51 < Ox40Work> Welcome Back SnowCrash.
00:51  * Ox40Work sets mode #tcpa +o SnowCrash
00:51 < Damakaru> i_c-Y:  They put it in a velvety-on-the-inside hardcover book thing to protect it, I guess.
00:51 < i_c-Y> oh.
00:51 < i_c-Y> they just gave me mine in a  brown envelope
00:51 <@Nikky> I think mine came in that
00:51 < Ox40Work> I got mine in a little diploma holder
00:52 <@Nikky> but they gave us like these book thigns...
00:52 < i_c-Y> im pretty sure it was just printed from a laser printer and then stamped.
00:52 <@Nikky> I have no idea why
00:52 < Ox40Work> Like, all stamped and stuff
00:52 < Ox40Work> http://www.review-of-the-week.com/images/diploma-holder.jpg
00:53 < Damakaru> Yeah, those.
00:53 < Merthsoft> http://www.winxpcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25971
00:55 < i_c-Y> haha
00:55 < i_c-Y> we'll see how good it is.
00:55 < Damakaru> *Chuckles.*  Nie.
00:55 < i_c-Y> i like the vista aesthetics better though
00:55 < Damakaru> * Nice
00:55 < Merthsoft> though i'm not sure what he's talking about 4-8 gigs
00:55 < Merthsoft> i've got 3 and it performs great
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00:55 < Damakaru> I do.  :/
00:56 < Damakaru> I have a legal copy of Vista.  Tried it.  It's alright.  I just couldn't get used to it, though.
00:57 < Ox40Work> I have 2...
00:57 < Ox40Work> Im still debating, MythBuntu/MythDora or Vista....
00:57 < Ox40Work> BLEH
00:57 < Ox40Work> *headdesk*
00:57 < Damakaru> Why debate?
00:57 <+kirsk> try both
00:58 < Damakaru> Try them each, see which you life.
00:58 < Damakaru> "Like," even.
00:58 <+kirsk> i life girls
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00:59 < i_c-Y> vista is probably a better option.
00:59 < Damakaru> Did you mean, "I life *Goth/Alt./Metal/Raver* girls?"
01:00 <+kirsk> hot/cute goth/alt/metal/rave/hippie girls yeah
01:00 <@Nikky> Girls are icky
01:01 <+kirsk> cooties?
01:01 <@Nikky> Yes.
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01:12 <@efneTI92> [likeWOAH] Say one word, I'll laugh and bury you
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01:25 < shoplifti> would anyone be able to help me with a ti-84 "issue" ?
01:25 -!- shoplifti is now known as Applejuic
01:26 < TD-Linux> the labview installer is pathetic
01:27 < Merthsoft> Applejuic: waht's the issue?
01:27 < Applejuic> well, i used to have a ti-83 silver edition - and what i really liked about it is the graphing speed was extremely fast
01:28 < Merthsoft> yeah, the 84 is slower because it checks for uh
01:28 < Merthsoft> i forget what those are called
01:28 < Applejuic> the 84 is no faster than a normal 83 plus, even though it supposedly has 2.5 times the processing power
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01:28 < Applejuic> what's weird is when i run the tranfrm app that comes with it, it graphs really fast - unfortunately it's very innacurate
01:29 < Merthsoft> asymptotes that's what it checks for
01:29 < Applejuic> ooo
01:30 < Applejuic> is there some way it will tell you where the asymptotes are then?
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01:30 < Merthsoft> it'll put wholes in the graph
01:30 < Merthsoft> holes even
01:30 < Applejuic> oh, that's neat
01:34 -!- Barrett [~berto_cha@75-165-231-115.slkc.qwest.net] has joined #tcpa
01:35 < Barrett> hhhhhhhhhhhhooooooooooooooooooooooooo. I want.
01:35 < Barrett> SDXC
01:35 < Merthsoft> oh yes
01:35 < Applejuic> what's that
01:35 < Merthsoft> 1TB SD card
01:35 < Merthsoft> oooooh
01:35 < Applejuic> whaat
01:35 < Barrett> um... 64GB-2TB
01:35 < Applejuic> how much
01:35 < Barrett> not released yet.
01:35 < Applejuic> and do they make ones that fit the psp?
01:35 < Applejuic> :[
01:35 < Barrett> sony is using the same technology to make their next memory sticks
01:35 < Merthsoft> 1TB is in the 64gig to 2TB range
01:36 < Barrett> also: 300MB/s transfer.
01:36 < Barrett> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/accessories/0,39101000,49300513,00.htm
01:38 < Applejuic> ridiculous
01:38 < Applejuic> price?
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01:50 < TD-Linux> lame
01:50 < TD-Linux> SDHC is already obsolete?
01:50 < Merthsoft> haha, yup
01:54 < TD-Linux> Barrett, what new technology?
01:54 < TD-Linux> SDXC is just a protocol update
01:55 < Barrett> an unneeded one... SDHC was only artificially limited to 32GB
01:55 < i_c-Y> you are subpar, hacker stupid
01:55 < Barrett> theoretically it could have gone up to 2TB
01:57 < TD-Linux> well then
01:57 < TD-Linux> let's bump the limit more with SDXC
01:57 <@Nikky> Barrett can go to 2TB
01:57 < TD-Linux> it should support up to 1 EiB
01:58 < Barrett> SDHC was really lame... only useful from 8 to 32GB (yes, they had 4GB SDHC cards, but SD also supported 4GB)
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01:59 < i_c-Y> i have an 8 gig sdhc.
01:59 < Merthsoft> i have a 4gig min
01:59 < Merthsoft> i
01:59 < i_c-Y> my mp3 player has 12 GB in it
01:59 < Barrett> I have a 16 gig sdhc and a 4 gig sd and a 1 gig sd
02:00 < Barrett> and soon I will have a 64 gig sdxc
02:00 < Barrett> I go every time it quadruples
02:00 < i_c-Y> if max size micro SDHC's become affordable, ill put one in my mp3 player
02:00 < Barrett> what are they at for micros?
02:01 < Barrett> 16GB?
02:01 < Damakaru> I forgot my laptop has an SD port in it.  How fast are those?
02:01 < Barrett> I know they've had 8GB for a while on micros...
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02:01 < Damakaru> (Is it fast enought to use as a hard drive?)
02:02 < i_c-Y> you could boot off it
02:02 < Barrett> Damakaru: not as fast as a hard drive...
02:02 < i_c-Y> but its probably routed through USB, Damakaru 
02:02 < i_c-Y> so it will be slow
02:02 < i_c-Y> maybe 20 MB/s sustained read/write tops
02:03 < Barrett> I mean, they fastest ones are rated as "class 6" which means that the minimum speed is 6MB/s
02:03 < Damakaru> Ah.  Hm.  Only thing else I got is a Firefire port and eSATA.
02:03 < i_c-Y> firewire
02:03 <@Nikky> I like that
02:04 <@Nikky> firefire
02:04 < i_c-Y> esata probably wont handicap a hard drive
02:04 < i_c-Y> firewire is also a good bet
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02:09 < bsparks> why does irssi suck so much? :(
02:10 <@Nikky> It doesn't.
02:10 < bsparks> it leaves garbage when I go from channel to channel
02:10 <@efneTI92> [TheStorm] Yes rivereye, it is time to go fishing.
02:10 < bsparks> or when my currently typed line goes too long
02:10 <@Nikky> Lies.
02:10 < bsparks> or when I tab complete
02:10 < bsparks> or when the time changes
02:10 < bsparks> or just for the hell of it
02:10 <@Nikky> !qfind irssi
02:11 <@Nikky> lame
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02:12 < Damakaru> Are you sure it is not your terminal emulator?
02:13 <@Nikky>  It probably is.
02:13 <@Nikky> What are you using?
02:13 <@Nikky> gnome terminal sometimes does that
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02:13 <@Nikky> maybe... once a month
02:13 < bsparks> Nikky, I'm using a vt100 terminal to ssh into my os x box
02:14 <@Nikky> okay
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02:14 <@Nikky> what emulator are you using?
02:14 < bsparks> it's some random ssh program for the iPod touch
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02:15 <@Nikky> oh, there you go
02:15 <@Nikky> it's probably lame
02:15 < Damakaru> Nikky beat me to the punch.
02:15 < bsparks> it runs every other terminal thing I have had it run fine
02:15 < bsparks> even vi and emacs
02:16 < bsparks> http://jbrink.net/touchterm/ is the actual program page
02:16 <@Nikky> hmm
02:16 <@Nikky> irssi is wonky sometimes
02:16 < bsparks> well, let me give you a specific example
02:17 < bsparks> I'm on channel 2, and someone says something on channel 3, it then says Act [3] right above my input line, ok? well if someone says something, the Act [3] moves up one line
02:17 < bsparks> and it keeps moving up as the screen updates on channel 2
02:17 <@Nikky> yeah
02:17 < bsparks> But
02:17 <@Nikky> what mine will do is keep like the line above the action "sticky"
02:18 <@Nikky> or just parts of that line are sticky
02:18 < bsparks> if I switch to channel 4, then back to 2, it's fixed
02:18 <@Nikky> and no matter what "tab" I go to... it's always there
02:18 < Damakaru> Maybe you should set irssi to dumb terminal mode and see if that helps.
02:18 < bsparks> but if I go from channel 4 to channel 3, it will say my channel information above the status line above my input line
02:18 < bsparks> blocking out any current text
02:18 < bsparks> I have to go from channel 2 to channel 3 to get it to not do that
02:18 < metagross> lol i got a fun email :D
02:18 <@Nikky> Did you?
02:19 < metagross> just from some random person.
02:19 < metagross> "how do you program the game you made"   - - -  thats it.
02:19 <@Nikky> haha
02:19 < metagross> he gets points for spelling.
02:20 < Damakaru> http://linux.ues.edu.sv/servidor/maracosas/bruno2d/richard-stallman.jpg
02:21 < Damakaru> He looks like he's totally high.
02:21 < Damakaru> "High off of all that free software."
02:21 <@Nikky> yep
02:21 < TheStorm> stab
02:21 <@Nikky> he's a weird looking guy
02:21 < metagross> i had a window in front of his face when i loaded it. was totally expecting some girl 0.0
02:22 <@Nikky> not a fan of that facial hair
02:22 < millinao> stallman's beard is epic
02:25 < Merthsoft> maple and brown sugar life is very good
02:25 < metagross> whoa, Moon is out early! 0_0
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02:25 < Damakaru> ...with pancakes, buscuits, or waffles.
02:25 < metagross> gotta gotta gotta get to a store....tomorrow....
02:26 < metagross> visuals look alright for a DS
02:26 < metagross> http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2008/274/943870_20081001_screen006.jpg
02:27 < Merthsoft> what is that?
02:28 < metagross> FPS for DS. Sort of resembles Metroid Prime.
02:29 < metagross> I'm also looking forward to Ragnarok Online DS
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02:36 < Damakaru> It seems every channel has one guy that's pipes his RSS feed about his relationships to the channel...
02:36 < Damakaru> * that pipes
02:36 < Merthsoft> not this one
02:36 < Damakaru> <cough>K---k</cough>
02:36 < TheStorm> At least not atm
02:36 < Merthsoft> oh wait
02:36 < TheStorm> ^
02:36 < Merthsoft> right
02:36 < Merthsoft> fuck
02:37 < Merthsoft> fuck this channel
02:37 < TheStorm> lol
02:38 < millinao> how is ragnarok online ds going to wokr
02:38 < millinao> work*
02:38 < metagross> i hope i wont have to pay for it.
02:38 < Merthsoft> probbably on a DS
02:39 < metagross> screw it if i do.
02:39 < i_c-Y> ReDeEm: have you got your pc comming?
02:40 < i_c-Y> going*
02:40 < i_c-Y> ie does it boot
02:44 < metagross> lulz at SpiderMan + Obama
02:44 < Damakaru> Merthsoft (20:37:01 CST):  There are no whores in this channel.  Sorry.  :)
02:45 < Merthsoft> uh what
02:45 <@Nikky> Hi ReDeEm :)
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02:49 < metagross> is there any sort of resource online to get the default XP theme for vista?
02:49 < Merthsoft> tr1p1ea: why does it cost 1400 to get to yor damn country
02:50 < Damakaru> Msstles or something like that?
02:50 < Merthsoft> your*
02:50 < Damakaru> * Msstyles
02:50 < Tari> Merthsoft, I was wondering that last night!
02:50 < Merthsoft> getting to england costs 1000
02:50 < Tari> and that totals 26-ish hours of flying...
02:50 < Merthsoft> it's stupid
02:51 < metagross> ah, now that i know the NAME of XPs default theme, googling it will be much easier :)
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02:55 < _Auron_> <millinao> how is ragnarok online ds going to wokr <-- it's a single player game with actual quests, but game gameplay/visual as RO, and has multiplayer options
02:55 < _Auron_> I haven't tried it but I have the jap rom
02:56 < millinao> that doesn't sound very online
02:56 < millinao> that's like calling animal crossing DS "animal crossing online"
02:56 < _Auron_> only called that because it's based on RO
02:56 < _Auron_> no
02:56 < _Auron_> the graphicals and gameplay are pretty much just like RO
02:56 < _Auron_> that's why it's called that
02:56 < millinao> i guess
03:00 < Damakaru> I think I've found a friend to keep Krisk busy.  :P
03:01 < Damakaru> Just get them goth going on about chicks, in a different channel, and presto.
03:02 < Damakaru> * them both
03:04 < Merthsoft> haha, worth a shot
03:05 < Tari> grr
03:05 < _Auron_> WHY DOES MY EYE STING
03:05 < _Auron_> it's so annoying
03:05 < Tari> so slow to connect to tor
03:05 < Tari> oh, there it goes
03:06 < Merthsoft> BECAUSE YOU TOUCH YOURSELF AT NIGHT
03:08 < Speler> Lies
03:09 < Speler> He touches me at night
03:09 < metagross> Lies
03:09 < metagross> Speler touches him
03:09 < Speler> Both
03:10 < Damakaru> *Porn riff.*
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03:12 < Tari> I believe it's typically referred to as a 'porn groove', Damakaru ;)
03:13 < Damakaru> *Bow-chicka-wow-wow.*  Done.
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03:13 < Speler> You look sick... need an implant?
03:13 < Speler> Couldn't come up with anything good :/
03:13 < Speler> How you know I don't really watch porn... lol
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03:14 < sir_lewk> Speler doesn't watch porn?
03:14 < Tari> ah, Tor is so great
03:15 < Speler> Nope, he don't
03:15 < sir_lewk> I didn't know you where a castrato Spele. O.o
03:15 < Tari> I'm trolling someone who blatantly plaigarized XKCD ('Scantron') in the school newspaper
03:15 < Speler> Don't know what that is
03:15 < _Auron_> http://xkcd.com/499/
03:16 < Tari> by uploading copies of the comic to every directory in their network storage
03:16 < Tari> and I am UNTRACEABLE
03:16 < sir_lewk> hahaha
03:16 < Damakaru> "Mind if I expand my archive into your folder?  *Unzips.*"
03:16 < sir_lewk> lulz
03:17 < Tari> then I'll put a mess of files in there that just say "ANONYMOUS DOES NOT FORGIVE"
03:17 < sir_lewk> hmmzilla
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03:21  * Dan_E wrote his first calculator program in about a year and a half!
03:22 < Damakaru> *Applause.*
03:23 < Dan_E> Thank you, thank you.
03:24 < Merthsoft> Hi Dan_E!
03:25 < Merthsoft> wajt'd you amke?
03:26 < metagross> random numbar generator
03:26 < Damakaru> Is it something awesome-super-duper-"extravaganzic"-fun?
03:27 < Dan_E> Not too exciting.  It was a BASIC program for a math lesson my buddy was teaching to find local maxima from data collected via the CBR.
03:27 < Dan_E> But in 82 bytes, it was optimized at least :)
03:28 < sir_lewk> nice!
03:28 < Merthsoft> Dan_E: That's sweet
03:29 < Merthsoft> so you gonna get back in to it?
03:29 < Dan_E> It definitely brought back some nostalgia of calculator coding days, though!
03:29 < Dan_E> Sadly I don't have the free time at the moment to do real coding, but I definitely miss it.
03:30 < sir_lewk> are you in highschool right now?
03:30 < Tari> he's teaching high school, if that's what you mean (last I heard)
03:30 < sir_lewk> oh
03:30 < Dan_E> Yes, I teach high school math.
03:30 < sir_lewk> oh yeah, that's right
03:30 < sir_lewk> I did know that
03:31 < sir_lewk> duh
03:31 < Tari> !qfind Dan_E
03:31 < Tari> aww, quotebot's down
03:31 < Dan_E> My students enjoy finding my name in the PuzzPack title screen.
03:31 < sir_lewk> yeah
03:31 < sir_lewk> hahaha
03:31 < sir_lewk> that's excellent
03:32 < Merthsoft> Dan_E: Where do you live?
03:32 < Dan_E> New Haven, CT.
03:32 < Damakaru> (Wait, are you the CrunchyOS/Albino Blacksheep dude?)
03:32  * Dan_E also works for Teach For America.  You know, in case there are any college students thinking of applying...
03:32 < Dan_E> I'm the MirageOS dude.
03:32 < Merthsoft> You should come here!
03:32 < Tari> no, Damakaru 
03:32 < sir_lewk> he's *the* Dan E ;)
03:33 < Dan_E> Though I honestly prefer Calcsys and usb8x to MirageOS personally :)
03:33 < Dan_E> Merthsoft: Where is here?
03:34 < Merthsoft> Granville Ohio
03:34 < Merthsoft> we should just hang out
03:34 < Merthsoft> it's not too far :)
03:34 < sir_lewk> haha
03:34 < Dan_E> Ohio.  Connecticut.  .... Geography not a strong point, eh?
03:34 < Merthsoft> lol
03:34 < sir_lewk> Ohio is like 15 hrs from *everywhere* :P
03:34 < Merthsoft> closer than benryves is
03:35 < sir_lewk> well benryves is an ocean away!
03:35 < Dan_E> Alas.
03:35 < Tari> as is t1p1ea
03:36 < sir_lewk> we have a lot of europeans actually
03:36 < sir_lewk> E-J, krisk, benryves, leofox
03:36 < sir_lewk> probably a bunch more
03:36 < sir_lewk> let's highlight them all while they sleep! :P
03:37 < Dan_E> It's about time to wake up over there, no?
03:38 < Tari> 03:39 GMT
03:38 < Tari> so no
03:38 <@Nikky> mmm, MirageOS
03:38 <@Nikky> <3
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03:39 < Dan_E> Well, 5 AM is time to wake up for me.  So it's getting close to time to wake up :)
03:39 < millinao> what are some super-high res beautiful 2d games
03:39 <@Nikky> Hi zeropod 
03:40 <@Nikky> millinao: Starcraft
03:40 < millinao> diaf
03:40 < sir_lewk> millinao: Firetrack2
03:40 <@Nikky> nethack
03:40 < millinao> i dont know why I even ask
03:41 <@Nikky> I don't know
03:41 < sir_lewk> http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/324/32413.html
03:41 < sir_lewk> firetrack 2 is badass
03:41 <@Nikky> Plasma pong is 2d and beautiful
03:41 <@Nikky> oh, calculators?
03:41 <@Nikky> Hockey for the 89 is very pretty
03:41 < sir_lewk> yeah, plasma pong is cool
03:41 < metagross> sir_lewk: truth for firetrack2
03:41 <@Nikky> tankers 2 is also awesome
03:41 < sir_lewk> gunroar is cool
03:41 < sir_lewk> (pc)
03:42 < millinao> i forgot about plasma pong
03:42 < sir_lewk> http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~cs8k-cyu/windows/gr_e.html nice eyecandy
03:42 < millinao> aww its down
03:42 <@Nikky> hmm, what else
03:42 < ports> i shouldve bought more yogurt
03:43 <@Nikky> sir_lewk: How does it work in wine?
03:43 < Merthsoft> plasma pong?
03:43 < sir_lewk> Nikky: there is a linux version
03:43 <@Nikky> oh, derrr
03:43 < sir_lewk> somewhere
03:43  * Damakaru kicks LMMS.
03:43 < sir_lewk> I think it's just in the same zip
03:43 <@Nikky> really?
03:43 <@Nikky> hmm
03:44 < sir_lewk> I know I have a copy of it
03:44 < millinao> oh, world of goo is in the same boat
03:44 < sir_lewk> I'll upload it if I can't find it...
03:45 < sir_lewk> Nikky: http://www.emhsoft.com/gunroar/
03:45 <@Nikky> wine runs it pretty well
03:45 <@Nikky> I'll try that though
03:45 < sir_lewk> ah, alright
03:46 < Damakaru> *Looks at the time, and notices he's spent way too much time helping people and being silly in Arch Linux.*
03:46 < _Auron_> I want more sushi -_o;
03:47 < _Auron_> sushi is yummy
03:47 < Damakaru> Wow.  I need a game.
03:47 < millinao> nikky how do i make opera open .torrent links with utorrent instead of its built in thing
03:47 < _Auron_> ah
03:47 <@Nikky> about:config
03:47 < _Auron_> tools->preferences->advanced
03:47 <@Nikky> then turn "bittorrent" to 0
03:47 < _Auron_> then downloads
03:48 < _Auron_> and uncheck "hide file types opened with opera"
03:48 < _Auron_> or that
03:48 < millinao> tyty
03:48 < sir_lewk> what a user friendly browser
03:48 < sir_lewk> :P
03:48 <@Nikky> yeah, reminds me of KDE
03:49 < Damakaru> Which reminds me of an elevator.
03:49 <@Nikky> shitty?
03:49 < Damakaru> The sound scheme.  It makes you feel like you're on a friggin' elevator.
03:49 < Damakaru> Only thing missing is the Muzak.
03:50 <@Nikky> Oh
03:50 <@Nikky> I don't use system sounds
03:58 < ReDeEm> uhoh
03:58 < ReDeEm> im a complete failure
03:58 < ReDeEm> "Kernel Panic - Not Syncing"
03:58 < Damakaru> *Paths ReDeEm.*  It's okay.  Admission is the first step.
03:58 < ReDeEm> :(
03:58 < ReDeEm> Mehhh
03:58 < ReDeEm> Vista it is
03:59 < Damakaru> I take it none of the Myth*s worked for you.
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04:01 < Tari> what distro was that?
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04:03 < ReDeEm> MythDora
04:04 < zeropod> hmm, this is odd
04:04 < Tari> huh
04:04 < Tari> my box runs mythbuntu
04:04 < Tari> not that that means anything
04:05 < ReDeEm> ima try mythbuntu
04:09 < Tari> *sigh*
04:09 < Tari> 4-5 inches of snow tomorrow
04:09 < sir_lewk> does anyone know of some good post-rock bands?
04:09 < millinao> <3 world of goo
04:10 < Tari> sir_lewk, try last.fm: http://www.last.fm/tag/post%20rock
04:12 < Tari> never even heard of the genre before, looks cool
04:12 < Tari> imma download some Explosions in the Sky
04:13 < Tari> now is sleep time
04:14 < sir_lewk> post rock is really awesome, I just found it a few days ago
04:18 < sir_lewk> ho shit, tomorrow is friday
04:18 < i_c-Y> ReDeEm: why didnt you try vista?
04:18 < i_c-Y> ReDeEm: so the computer works?
04:21  * _Auron_ bangs head on desk
04:21 < sir_lewk> see
04:21 < sir_lewk> that's the sort of thing vista drives you to do
04:22 < _Auron_> I think I found a situation in C++ that I literally cannot do dynamically.
04:22 < sir_lewk> oh yeah?
04:22 < sir_lewk> you have my full and undivided attention
04:22 < sir_lewk> seriously
04:22 < _Auron_> I can't have a nested class in a class that can access the enclosing class's members if the variable names are the same
04:23 < sir_lewk> I'm really bored >.>
04:23 < sir_lewk> hmm
04:23 < _Auron_> unless I use a pointer to an instance of the enclosing class, but what if I don't know what the enclosing class is? what if it could be anything?
04:23 <@Nikky> don't help sir_lewk 
04:23 <@Nikky> unless he gives you a slice of the profits
04:23 < sir_lewk> hehe
04:23 < sir_lewk> I had this problem with spacehack
04:24 < sir_lewk> I just gave it a pointer to the enclosing class
04:24 < _Auron_> other alternative is super class usage, but that technically won't work either
04:24 < sir_lewk> being the lead developer I have the benifit of knowing that the enclosing class will always be of a certain type >.>
04:25 < Dan_E> I don't actually know C++, but I would just have the constructor for the enclosing class set up a reference to itself in the enclosed class if there's no language-specific way of doing it.
04:26 < Damakaru> *Cringes, shiver.*  Ugh.  Ick.  I heard way too much.
04:26 < sir_lewk> can't void pointers point at anything?
04:26 < sir_lewk> couldn't they point to any sort of enclosing class you could have?
04:27 < _Auron_> hmm
04:27 < sir_lewk> seems to me that's a job for void pointers (assuming they work in a similar manner as they do in C)
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04:28 < Damakaru> There goes my appetite for the day.  Discussion in Arch got derailed to about what, er, certain things taste like.
04:28 < _Auron_> Dan_E might be right
04:29 < Dan_E> I love when that happens.
04:31 < i_c-Y> http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2008/n2798.pdf - section 11.8
04:32 < sir_lewk> open-std?
04:33 < Damakaru> *Immature chuckle.*
04:33 < sir_lewk> I'm all for opensource, but GPLd STDs? no thinks
04:33 < sir_lewk> *thanks
04:33 < sir_lewk> :P
04:34 < i_c-Y> if you have an older copy, theres more there.
04:34 < Damakaru> Use your <head>.  Use protection before you insert your links into your web browser.
04:37 < sir_lewk> "Don't think with the head in your pants" - My mom.
04:38 < Damakaru> "But, then what's the point of having it if you can't utilize this extra processing power?"
04:41 < Damakaru> *Continues on about multiple CPUs.*
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04:43 < MindVirus> Hello. Does anyone use TiLP?
04:44 < chronomex> No, none of us transfer programs to our calculators.
04:44 < Dan_E> I have, at some point in my life, used it.  But not recently.
04:44 < chronomex> yeah, I haven't done much calculator anything recently
04:44 < Damakaru> Same here.  What 'chu need help with?
04:44 < MindVirus> I can't get it to work and I'm running it as root.
04:44 < MindVirus> So permissions are not a problem.
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04:44 < Damakaru> What calc?
04:45 < MindVirus> Ti89 Titanium.
04:45 < Dan_E> Or better: What error?
04:45 < Damakaru> MindVirus:  TiLP has a problem with TI-89s on Linux.
04:45 < MindVirus> WHAT.
04:45 < Damakaru> You have to plug/re-plug a lot.
04:45 < MindVirus> OK.
04:45 < MindVirus> Keep the calculator on?
04:45 < Damakaru> Unplug/replug or turn it on/off.  Either way works.
04:46 < Damakaru> * off/on
04:47 < MindVirus> Damakaru, how many times?
04:48 < MindVirus> I've been doing it for the past few minutes and it's not working.
04:48 < Damakaru> MindVirus: Just once, and [Refresh] should do it.
04:49 < MindVirus> :(
04:49 < MindVirus> I feel stupid now.
04:49 < chronomex> I've never really had a great deal of success, so thanks for the tip Damakaru
04:49 < MindVirus> Not working.
04:50 < MindVirus> Does it have to be some specific USB port?
04:50 < Damakaru> *Quickly installs TiLP and makes sure...*
04:51 < i_c-Y> try using a permissions.d rule for udev to see that the device node was created with the proper permissions
04:52 < MindVirus> Does it matter? I'm running as root.
04:52 < i_c-Y> it might.
04:53 < MindVirus> Don't have a permissions.d.
04:53 < i_c-Y> what distro are you on ?
04:54 < i_c-Y> and where did you get tilp?
04:54 < MindVirus> Ubuntu.
04:54 < MindVirus> Repos.
04:54 < i_c-Y> and is it tilp or tilp II?
04:54 < MindVirus> 2.
04:54 < i_c-Y> that's not descriptive.
04:54 < Damakaru> Version?
04:54 < MindVirus> Intrepid Ibex.
04:54 < Damakaru> (2.11 is the most recent.  It's in CalcForge.)
04:54 < MindVirus> Ahh.
04:54 < MindVirus> Framework version (cables=1.0.3, files=1.0.2, calcs=1.0.2, conv=1.0.1)
04:54 < MindVirus> TiLP2 - Tilp Is a Linking Program -  1.01
04:55 < Damakaru> MindVirus:  You might want to add the CalcForge repos and try upgrading.  They might have fixed it in 1.11.  (Not 2.11, sorry.  :P)
05:00 < MindVirus> Damakaru, trying...
05:01 < MindVirus> Now it uses KDE?
05:01 < sir_lewk> MindVirus: if you have a USB->I/O link those work better in linux with the 89 and the usb->usb links
05:01 < MindVirus> I do not have one, AFAIK.
05:02 <@Nikky> I just tried kbuntu live cd
05:02 <@Nikky> KDE still is ugly and unfunctional
05:02 < MindVirus> Yeah.
05:02 < i_c-Y> dont think so, MindVirus 
05:02 < i_c-Y> ubuntu is ugly and unfunctional.
05:02 < MindVirus> Why isn't this channel on FreeNode?
05:02 <@Nikky> because freenode sucks penis?
05:02 < sir_lewk> KDE is pure sex, yall are just jelous you're not getting any
05:02 <@Nikky> it's ran by a bunch of retards
05:02 < MindVirus> FreeNode is WAY more respectable than EFNet.
05:02 <@Nikky> and splits more than DALnet does
05:02 < sir_lewk> getting a channel on freenode is an absolute PITA
05:02 <@Nikky> freenode is seriously failsauce
05:03 < sir_lewk> and freenode splits all the time :S
05:03 < MindVirus> Compare to EFNet.
05:03 <@Nikky> EFnet is way respectable
05:03 < MindVirus> Yeah, OK.
05:03 <@Nikky> #math, #c, everything is here
05:03 <@Nikky> What does freenode have? nothing
05:03 < sir_lewk> EFNet is just old as hell, no services
05:03 <@Nikky> Which is the best
05:03 < Damakaru> Yeah, they use Qt, now.  If you don't like how Qt apps look, you can install qgtkstyle (don't know if Ubuntu has this in their repos), and it will make Qt apps use your current GTK setup.
05:03 < Damakaru> * engine
05:03 <@Nikky> Qt is so fail :(
05:03 < Dan_E> #tcpa has been on EFNet for about 9 years.  If it made it this long, no need to change I say.
05:04 <@Nikky> that too
05:04 <@Nikky> :)
05:04 <@Nikky> How's life dan?
05:04 < Dan_E> Quite good.  You?
05:04 <@Nikky> We've missed you.
05:04 < Dan_E> Aww.
05:04 < sir_lewk> yeah, hang out here more
05:04 < sir_lewk> we're low on brains lately
05:06 <@Nikky> ever since ReDeEm started hanging around, we're just not the same
05:06 <@Nikky> I guess we could move to furryfire
05:07 < Damakaru> Five seconds later, server crash.
05:07 <@Nikky> haha, really?
05:07 < i_c-Y> thats what you get for having netham45 be an ircop
05:08 < MindVirus> I got the new version.
05:08 < MindVirus> Nothing's going on.
05:08 <@Nikky> At all?
05:08 < MindVirus> Running as root again.
05:08 < MindVirus> It opens, but I'm getting null as a calculator.
05:08 < Damakaru> Change it in the device settings.
05:08 < i_c-Y> which packages did you install?
05:08 <@Nikky> yeah, you gotta do that
05:08 < MindVirus> tilp2.
05:09 < i_c-Y> all of the tilp related ones.
05:09 < MindVirus> Oh, duh.
05:09 < MindVirus> Wow.
05:09 < MindVirus> GUI's counter-intuitive.
05:09 < Damakaru> Yeah, the GUI is friggin' shit.
05:09 < MindVirus> Someone's gotta get on working on that shit.
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05:10 < sir_lewk> rofl@xkcd.com
05:10 < MindVirus> That's a valid email.
05:11 < sir_lewk> really?
05:11 < sir_lewk> like someone looks at it and everything?
05:11 < MindVirus> Don't know.
05:11 < chronomex> it's an 822-valid email, yes
05:11 < Damakaru> sir_lewk:  *Chuckes.*  Nice.
05:11 < MindVirus> Right, it validates with the RFC.
05:11 <@Nikky> chronomex: nerd
05:11  * chronomex nods
05:11 <@Nikky> ooo
05:11 < chronomex> Nikky: evil non-coder type
05:11 < MindVirus> Is it wrong to remember the RFC numbers?
05:11 <@Nikky> I like MindVirus 
05:12 < MindVirus> Anyone remember 1459?
05:12 < MindVirus> :)
05:12 <@Nikky> 1459 is lamesauce
05:12 < chronomex> MindVirus: familiar number but not off-hand, no
05:12 < sir_lewk> aaaanyways
05:12 < MindVirus> First person who knows gets an Internet. Googlers get stabbed.
05:12 <@Nikky> 1459 is IRC
05:12 < chronomex> IRC!
05:12 < sir_lewk> what I was saying is todays xkcd is funny
05:12  * chronomex clusy'd
05:12 < MindVirus> :)
05:12  * chronomex clusty'd
05:12 <@Nikky> no, just laggy chronomex 
05:12 < sir_lewk> the win7 bashing has already commenced
05:12 < MindVirus> sir_lewk, meh, I didn't think it was funny.
05:13 <@Nikky> xkcd is never funny
05:13 < MindVirus> Nikky, some are hilarious.
05:13 <@Nikky> false
05:13 < sir_lewk> the older ones mostly
05:13 < MindVirus> Check this out: there's a 403 comic and a 405 comic but Randall used /404 for a 404 message.
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05:13 < sir_lewk> like the perl and raptors ones
05:14 < MindVirus> Ostensibly hacked together.
05:16  * sir_lewk sleeps
05:17 < Damakaru> Aw, nuts.  My mini plug is screwed up.
05:17 <@Nikky> mini plug?
05:17 <@Nikky> get some lube
05:17 < Damakaru> The one that plugs in the calculator.  <.<
05:17 < chronomex> get LOTS of lube
05:17 <@Nikky> yeah, lube
05:18 < Damakaru> *Facepalm.*
05:20 < Damakaru> Arch's TiLP maintainer must have taken an extended-extended-extended vacation.
05:21 < chronomex> maybe
05:22 < Damakaru> *Looks again.*  Oh, he did.  They even took the package out the repos and dumped back in the AUR.  Maybe I can take it over...
05:22 <@Nikky> do it
05:22 <@Nikky> You know Damakaru, all those mean things I said to you.
05:22 <@Nikky> I didn't really mean them.
05:22 <@Nikky> I secretly like you
05:23 < chronomex> well isn't that sweet <3
05:25 < Damakaru> Er, yay?
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05:26 < MindVirus> I don't know if this is right... Does the Ti89 use DirectLink?
05:26 < chronomex> it can
05:26 < MindVirus> I'm using the one on the right.
05:27 < Damakaru> MindVirus:  Yes, if you're using the USB to the mini.
05:27 < chronomex> is that the mini-USB plug? then yes
05:27 < i_c-Y> chronomex: careful.
05:27 < Damakaru> If you're using the I/O, then SIlverLink.
05:27 < i_c-Y> how can a ti-89 use directlink?
05:27 < MindVirus> I'm not using the SilverLink.
05:27 < chronomex> i_c-Y: ?
05:27 < i_c-Y> ti-89 titanium can.
05:27 < chronomex> ah true
05:27 < chronomex> but I usually assume 89Ti these days
05:27 < MindVirus> 89s aren't sold anymore no?
05:27 < i_c-Y> well, maybe that assumption will be fatal for you in the future.
05:27 < i_c-Y> they are.
05:28 < MindVirus> Not produced?
05:28 < i_c-Y> some places still have them in stock.
05:28 < chronomex> okay
05:28 < chronomex> but they're out of production
05:28 < chronomex> i_c-Y: WHERE ARE THESE PLACES
05:28 < Damakaru> Amazon and eBay?
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05:28 < chronomex> but new?
05:28 < i_c-Y> walmarts are actually a good place to look
05:28 <@Nikky> ick
05:28 < i_c-Y> a few weeks ago when i went to one it was there. i nearly bought it
05:29 < chronomex> ick
05:29 < Damakaru> Yeah, I saw some regular 89s here befoer.
05:29 <@Nikky> Wal*mart is so lame
05:29 < MindVirus> They have no advantages over 89Ti right?
05:29 < i_c-Y> http://www.amazon.com/Texas-Instruments-Advanced-Graphing-Calculator/dp/B00000JF55 shows some 
05:29 < chronomex> don't you mean WAL*MART ?
05:29 <@Nikky> No
05:29 < chronomex> MindVirus: they're smaller
05:29 <@Nikky> Well, maybe
05:29 <@Nikky> I don't go to wal-mart
05:29 < Damakaru> MindVirus:  Only advantage is the USB and more memory.
05:29 < Merthsoft> i was there earlier today
05:29 < i_c-Y> the patching sometimes goes awry
05:29 <@Nikky> and AMS 3.10
05:29 < Merthsoft> got some food and some new wipers
05:29 <@Nikky> which has more features than the 2.xx series
05:30 < MindVirus> I see.
05:30 < MindVirus> Jeez... I have to write my own GUI for this. TiLP is terrible.
05:30 < Merthsoft> use ti-connect
05:30 < MindVirus> I'm on Linux.
05:30 < Damakaru> And if we had a TI-89T hacker with mad-crazy skills like BrandonW hasw for the z80 calcs, then 89Ts could have have some more advantages...
05:30 < Merthsoft> use windoows
05:31 < chronomex> Damakaru: we used to, they all disappeared
05:31 < MindVirus> You're the channel troll, aren't you.
05:31 < Merthsoft> no, Nikky is
05:31 <@Nikky> True
05:31 < Merthsoft> i'm the pragmatist
05:31 < chronomex> MindVirus: nice try, I hang with Nikky though
05:31 <@Nikky> Although Merthsoft is my troll in training
05:31 < Merthsoft> Nikky: lies
05:31 < MindVirus> chronomex, I was talking about Merthsoft.
05:32 <@Nikky> Just as I learned from Dalek
05:32 < chronomex> MindVirus: ah
05:32 < Damakaru> Dalek?
05:32 <@Nikky> George Limpert
05:32 < chronomex> !seen dalek
05:32 < Merthsoft> the ancient scriptures talk of him
05:32 < chronomex> !qfind have to kick you
05:32 < chronomex> wait
05:32 <@Nikky> no 86
05:32 < chronomex> 86's not here
05:32 < chronomex> WHERE IS 86
05:32 < Merthsoft> go read the #tcpa bible
05:32 < Damakaru> Oh, I'm thinking Industrial Hip-Hop Dalek for some reason.  :P
05:33 < Merthsoft> chronomex: probably with your mum
05:33 <@Nikky> I still need to write that bible
05:33 < MindVirus> Also, my 89Ti is still not loading.
05:33 <@Nikky> unless someone else wants to?
05:33 <@Nikky> MindVirus: You just have to mess with the cable settings a bit
05:33 < Merthsoft> you're the chosen one, Nikky 
05:33 <@Nikky> it's kind of tweaky
05:33 < MindVirus> I configured it to use DirectLink on the discovered port.
05:33 < MindVirus> Nikky, could you explain?
05:33 < i_c-Y> I'm the batman.
05:33 <@Nikky> not really
05:33 <@Nikky> just try different thigns
05:33 <@Nikky> restart the program every so often, you know
05:33 <@Nikky> fiddle with it
05:33 < Damakaru> MindVirus:  Oh, right.  Yeah, and it will give you some warning about it when you close out the dialog.
05:33 < _Auron_> would you be afraid of a sniper that could hit you with 452,628 newtons of force?
05:33 <@Nikky> No.
05:33 < i_c-Y> _Auron_: whats the impulse?
05:34 < MindVirus> Damakaru, ?
05:34 < _Auron_> 2,700ft/s, .50 bullet
05:34 < MindVirus> Newton doesn't scare me. That bitch is dead.
05:34 < _Auron_> 2 tons of weight = about 20,000N
05:35 < Damakaru> Damakaru:  If you selected "DirectLink" and "TI89Titanium" from the cable settings, when you click [OK], it should give you a notice that you'll have to unplug/replug, and continue.
05:35 < Damakaru> Oops.
05:35 < _Auron_> if your arm gets hit by the bullet, your arm is gone. completely.
05:35 < MindVirus> Damakaru, not quite.
05:35 < Damakaru> s:Damakaru:MindVirus:
05:35 < chronomex> bah, screw math, I'm installing solaris
05:35 < MindVirus> Damakaru, it tells me that I have to unplug/replug after exiting.
05:36 < Damakaru> MindVirus:  Oop.  I got close, though.  :P
05:36 < Damakaru> chronomex:  I tried OpenSolaris before I got my laptop back.  Didn't like me too well.  Slow as hell.
05:36 < MindVirus> Whoa, there we go.
05:36 < MindVirus> Don't know what I did.
05:36 < chronomex> not OpenSolaris
05:36 < chronomex> real Solaris 10 on a SPARC box
05:37 < Damakaru> Oh.
05:37 < chronomex> Sun Ultra 80, if you're keeping score at home
05:38 < Damakaru> MindVirus:  Yeah, and occasionally (especially when the calc bitches about something to TiLP), you'll end up having to unplug/replug/reselect the device, even though it says after exit.
05:38 < MindVirus> Someone should get shot.
05:38 < chronomex> preferably someone from TI
05:39 <@Nikky> I like TI
05:39 < Damakaru> Hopefully one day, that bug is fixed.  Or TI decides to get nice and port TI-Connect to Linux.  Or Wine gets better, where TI-Connect will work from Linux.
05:39 < chronomex> me too, Nikky, they're just mean
05:39 < chronomex> TI-Connect sucks.
05:39 <@Nikky> Yes it does
05:40 <@Nikky> Ti-Graphlink is far superior in all ways
05:40 < i_c-Y> does the nspire even use ticonnect?
05:40 <@Nikky> dunno
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05:40 < Damakaru> TI-Connect may suck (at least for the z80s), but it's interface is loads better.  And everything usually Just Works.
05:41 < Nikky> that is true
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05:41 < Damakaru> * its
05:42 < Nikky> hmm
05:42 < Nikky> my video card is at 150
05:42 < Nikky> maybe I should clean it
05:42 < Damakaru> Degrees?  Yipe.
05:42 < Nikky> yeah
05:42 < Nikky> and that's just like, normal desktop
05:42 < Merthsoft> i don't know waht mine's at
05:42 <+prime_> no, that is well below the melting temperature of the hearsink, it should be fine
05:42 < chronomex> hahaha
05:42 < Merthsoft> it's integrated though so wahtever everything else is at
05:42 < Nikky> okay
05:42 < Nikky> thanks prime_ 
05:42 < Nikky> I'm glad I can trust you
05:43 < chronomex> I was about to qadd but there isn't !q :(
05:43 <+prime_> (heatsink, for the record)
05:43 < Nikky> bitch bitch bitch
05:43 < Nikky> oh
05:43 < Nikky> hah
05:44 < Nikky> all of my air intakes are plugged with dust
05:44 < Nikky> lulz
05:47 < _Auron_> .60 handgun: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZL797pOAZ0
05:47 <+prime_> holy cow
05:48 < _Auron_> almost as bad as that cricket gun in Men in Black
05:48 < i_c-Y> cricket gun? was that the little one that will smith was given?
05:48 < Merthsoft> us
05:48 < Merthsoft> ya
05:49 < _Auron_> ya
05:49 < _Auron_> that he fired and ended up flying backwards like 20 feet
05:49 < i_c-Y> yeah.
05:49 < i_c-Y> i want one of those
05:49 < i_c-Y> it could be awesome
05:49 < _Auron_> lol
05:49 < i_c-Y> i'll take world domination as a compensation prize though.
05:50 < Nikky> wasn't it called a minicricket?
05:50 < Merthsoft> noisy
05:50 < Merthsoft> the noisy cricket
05:50 < Merthsoft> christ guys
05:53 < Damakaru> Cricket_B?
05:57 < _Auron_> ...
05:58 < Damakaru> Statement retracted.
06:00 < MindVirus> HAHA
06:00 < MindVirus> MathTools is the best package EVER.
06:00 < MindVirus> I want to raise a family with it.
06:01 < chronomex> ...
06:01 < Nikky> So my cpu fan intake was clogged
06:01 < chronomex> nicetastic
06:01 < Nikky> my main box fan intake was clogged
06:01 < Nikky> and my GPU intake was blocked
06:01 < Nikky> :)
06:02 < chronomex> what did you DO?
06:02 < Damakaru> Do you own pets or was it just one dirty PC?
06:02 < chronomex> smoke, and live with cats?
06:02 < Nikky> just didn't clean it for like... a year
06:02 < Nikky> and they were doing some brick grinding outside my apartment earlier this year
06:02 < Nikky> so I'm sure some of that stuff got in there too
06:02 < Nikky> must of it was hair though
06:02 < chronomex> ah
06:02 < chronomex> you a hairy guy?
06:02 < Nikky> not really
06:02 < chronomex> or woman
06:03 < Nikky> but my head has hair
06:04 < Damakaru> Zero hour.  Time for me to take a break for the rest of the night.  See ya.
06:04 < Nikky> see ya
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06:11 < _Digital> I don't like cats
06:12 < _Digital> wow, xkcd is one hell of a burn on Windows 7
06:13 < _Auron_> hehehe
06:13 < i_c-Y> xkcd used to be interesting but for the past year has been rather meh.
06:13 < _Auron_> yeah they lack the dude in the hat 
06:13 < _Auron_> haven't seen him in awhile
06:14 < Nikky> hah, running at 123 now... is that better?
06:14 < _Digital> 123?
06:15 < Nikky> kelvin
06:15 < Nikky> trying some new liquid nitrogen cooling
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06:51 <+prime_> maybe your sensor is broken
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06:52 < _Auron_> Want more experience points? Pout and increase the number of experience points you earn. Don't like the terrain? Change it to a dancing forest if you prefer. Want to attack first? Pout.
06:52 < _Auron_> ....................
06:52 < _Auron_> weirdest RPG premise ever. O.o
06:52 < _Auron_> http://www.gamespot.com/ds/rpg/sekaiwaatashidemawatteru/news.html?sid=6202909&mode=previews&om_act=convert&om_clk=previews&tag=previews;title;2
06:58 < millinao> lol, porn wants a 5B$ bailout
06:59 < _Digital> ...?
06:59 < chronomex> hah
06:59 < chronomex> fake article
06:59 < _Auron_> "If you wreck your car in a high-speed chase with cops, it's probably not a good idea to carjack a SWAT team's SUV. Because if you get in another wreck, the ammo in the back might explode"
07:00 < millinao> yeah its fake
07:00 < millinao> although i thought that was pretty funnyh
07:00 < _Auron_> my friend's response: if he had ever played GTA, he woulda known to get out when it was on fire. noob.
07:00 < chronomex> hah
07:01 < millinao> yeah, hustler asked for a bailout from congresss
07:01 < millinao> i think they are trolling
07:02 < Nikky> yup
07:02 < _Digital> you would know
07:03 < Nikky> <3
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07:03 <@efneTI92> [Netham45] Narf!
07:03 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Netham45] by efneTI89
07:05 < Nikky> Hey Netham45 
07:05 < Nikky> How are you?
07:05 <+Netham45> Good, you?
07:05  * _Digital boots to new kernel to see if he's been able to lessen the effects of teh current scheduler's bugs
07:05 < Nikky> Pretty great
07:07  * chronomex runs the solaris installer and goes off to eat chocolate and do math homework
07:07 < mokomull> you have homework already?
07:07 < chronomex> yeah, class started this monday
07:07 < mokomull> school hasn't even started for us :P
07:07 < chronomex> hah
07:07 < chronomex> well I get a better education
07:08 < mokomull> eh, at least I have a major :)
07:09 < Nikky> My major... is better than yours.
07:09 < Nikky> I could teach you, but I'd have to charge.
07:09 <@Andy_J> e-peen stroking
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07:10  * chronomex nods quietly
07:10 < chronomex> Spengo: come stroke Nikky's epenis
07:10 < chronomex> it's super effective!
07:10 < mokomull> Andy_J: No, that would be like "my programming language is better than yours" discussions
07:10 < Spengo> why hello there lowly peons
07:11 < chronomex> don't peon me :\
07:11 < Nikky> mokomull: perl, right?
07:11 <@Andy_J> brainfuck
07:11 < mokomull> that's what the guys in my office like, perl
07:11 < Nikky> <3
07:11 < mokomull> I'm a C/C++/Python kind of guy
07:11 < chronomex> </3
07:11 < mokomull> though I'm learning Erlang right now
07:12 < chronomex> python?
07:12 < chronomex> I'm a C/Assembly kind of guy
07:12 < mokomull> Python's for the shit I really don't want to spend time on
07:12 < chronomex> ah
07:12 <@Andy_J> chronomex: you strike me as more of a machine code person :b
07:12 < chronomex> Andy_J: I've done that too :)
07:12 < Spengo> lmao
07:13 < Spengo> chronomex can be our assembler
07:13 <@Andy_J> as have I
07:13 <@Andy_J> for a class
07:13 < Spengo> me too
07:13 < Spengo> fscking labs
07:13 < mokomull> I did it for a class, then I said fuck it and wrote a Q&D assembler in Haskell :)
07:13 <@Andy_J> we made a simple CPU thingy in a logic simulator for architecture
07:13 <@Andy_J> and had to write a program for it
07:13 < chronomex> me + clipboard/paper/pencil + long bus ride before laptop + motorola programmers' manual
07:13 < Spengo> why the hell am I writing out the 0's and 1's :| that's what the assembler is for dangit
07:13 < chronomex> hah
07:13 < Spengo> oh I also had to do it in another class
07:13 < Spengo> for homework
07:14 < Spengo> but I didn't do it
07:14 <@Andy_J> http://ajanata.com/junk/cpu1.png
07:14 < Spengo> instead I broke out the mips assembler and copy pasted :3
07:14 < chronomex> Andy_J: that's not a real CPU
07:14 <@Andy_J> pfft.
07:14 < chronomex> it's a simulation
07:14 <@Andy_J> we had to make all the logic shit ourselves
07:14 <@Andy_J> except the ALU, we used teh stock one
07:14 <@Andy_J> it's close enough.
07:14 < Spengo> I had to make an ALU
07:14 < chronomex> I suppose
07:14 < Spengo> but that was easy
07:14 < Spengo> the hard thing
07:15 < Spengo> was the multiplier/divider
07:15 < mokomull> yeah, multipliers are hard
07:15 < chronomex> mmhmmmm
07:15 < mokomull>  that's why you use an FPGA with them already done :)
07:15 < Spengo> actually the multiplier was pretty easy, but to make it divide too, ugh
07:16 < chronomex> do it the easy way
07:16 < Spengo> dividing is just.... bleh
07:16 < Spengo> why do we need to divide anyway
07:16 < Spengo> z80 doesn't have a divide
07:16 <@Andy_J> right shift!
07:16 < chronomex> "instruction set does not contain multiply or divide instructions.  programmers are advised to do it in software"
07:16 < Spengo> we can just not have a divider and shift right and add/subtract
07:16 < chronomex> xackly
07:17 <@Andy_J> I made a fibonacci generator for that CPU
07:17 < Spengo> I did eventually figure it out though, but I thought it was a hard assignment
07:17 <@Andy_J> it's kind of silly when it only has ubytes :b
07:17 < Spengo> who in here has l4d?
07:19 < Nikky> my roommate does
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07:32 < tr1p1ea> ?!
07:32 < tr1p1ea> P
07:32 < tr1p1ea> q:
07:32 < Nikky> :(
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08:00 < _Digital> morning all
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08:12 <@efneTI92> [rivereye[] Is it time to go fishing?
08:12 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v rivereye[] by efneTI81
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08:17 < _3fg> hey rivereye
08:17 < _3fg> nice WRC
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08:18 < Nikky> WRC?
08:19 < _3fg> Weapons Research Complex
08:19 < Nikky> oh, cool
08:19 < Nikky> wait
08:19 < Nikky> it's _3fg!
08:19 < _3fg> it's from a game
08:19 < _3fg> also hello
08:22 < _Auron_> 'lo 3fg
08:22 < _3fg> hi
08:24 < _3fg> hey _Auron_ what did you think of Fallout 3
08:25 < _Auron_> too many bugs
08:25 < _Auron_> too few quests
08:25 < _Digital> _3fg !
08:25 < _Auron_> skills seem less important
08:25 < _Auron_> otherwise good
08:25 < _3fg> hi Digital
08:26 < _3fg> skills are a little less important I suppose
08:26 < _Auron_> maybe
08:26 < _3fg> but that was probably because of what was lost when they went to the FPS aspect
08:26 < _Auron_> yar
08:30  * _Digital watches his box hit a load average or 12
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08:40 < _Auron_> 'lo krisk
08:47 <+kirsk> hey
09:01 < _Auron_> wtf, qshare upped their limit from 200mb to 4GB per hour
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09:02 < _Auron_> how the hell would I download 4GB per hour when there's 20 seconds of waiting between each file, and no simultaneous downloads?
09:02 < _Auron_> and a 80kb/s cap
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09:31 <+prime_> its like aols 1000 free hours, good for one month only
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10:15 < tr1p1ea> !seen Spencer_
10:15 < tr1p1ea> seen Spencer_
10:17 <@E-J> seen efneTI86
10:17 <@E-J> hmmm, it has been gone 23 hours
11:00  * tr1p1ea loads sniper rifle
11:01 < tr1p1ea> ill be waiting
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11:42 < bsparks> oh, sleepy time
11:44 < tr1p1ea> my graphics card is cooking itself all of a sudden?
11:44 < benryves> tr1p1ea: Is the fan/heatsink in good order?
11:50 < tr1p1ea> well, it was
11:50 < tr1p1ea> now its idling at ~85C
11:50 < tr1p1ea> O_o
11:50 < tr1p1ea> oh and hi ben :>
11:51 < benryves> 'lo tr1p1ea :)
11:52 < tr1p1ea> the heatsink has prolly come loose
11:52 < tr1p1ea> bleh ill check it tomorrow :)
11:52 < benryves> Possibly. Towers seem to enjoy mounting card upside down anyway.
11:53 < tr1p1ea> :)
11:54 < tr1p1ea> hows bbc basic coming along?
11:54 < benryves> It isn't, I've been bogged down with work the last few days. :(
11:56 < tr1p1ea> :(
11:56 < benryves> Only real change recently was to the OSGBPB MOS call (general-purpose routine to read/write bulk data from files). When A is 8 you can use OSGBPB to retrieve filenames sequentially.
11:57 < zeropod> anyone know a different terminal based irc client besides irssi?
11:58 < zeropod> sorry to have broken the conversation. 
11:58 < benryves> Sorry, no zeropod, I'm stuck in the 21st Century. ;)
11:59 < tr1p1ea> well there is telnet?
11:59 < benryves> Hehe :)
12:00 < zeropod> well i'm using my iPod touch to ssh into my Mac to remotelu get on irc
12:01 < benryves> Aren't there any native IRC apps?
12:01 < zeropod> no good free ones
12:01 < zeropod> or anu that allow landscape mpde
12:01 < zeropod> err, mode
12:02 < benryves> Maybe when Apple get off their backsides and implement J2ME like every other handset out there, then. :(
12:02 < zeropod> ew, j2me irc clients are crap in a jar file
12:03 < zeropod> and would look horrible on this screen, even with an onscreen keypad
12:03 < benryves> Huh?
12:04 < tr1p1ea> O_o
12:04 < zeropod> if you enable j2me, you need an onscreen keypad to ensure compatability
12:04 < tr1p1ea> i dont get it
12:04 < benryves> So there is J2ME on the iPhone?
12:04 < zeropod> no
12:05 < zeropod> i'm talking hypothetically
12:05 < tr1p1ea> there are plenty of java apps that only work on a specific model of phone
12:05 < zeropod> but a lot are universal
12:05 < benryves> tr1p1ea: And, conversely, some phones let you customise properties (eg screen resolution) to let apps hard-coded for a particular device work properly.
12:06 < zeropod> why enable j2me and not male it more universal
12:06 < zeropod> *make
12:06 < tr1p1ea> usually there are just different builds for different phones
12:06 < zeropod> hell, the iPhone OS doesn't even have flash
12:07 < benryves> zeropod: Indeed, lack of Flash and Java got Apple into trouble in the UK.
12:07 < zeropod> how?
12:07 < tr1p1ea> flash is a biggie
12:07 < benryves> zeropod: False advertising, they claimed they had access to the "full internet".
12:07 < tr1p1ea> advertising
12:07 < zeropod> a lot of phones don't support flash
12:07 < benryves> Oh? :\
12:08 < benryves> They also got into trouble over the speed claims in their ads, so had to pull those too.
12:08 < zeropod> yeah, like almost every one i have ever owned
12:08 < tr1p1ea> yes but a lot of phones dont advertise that they can access the net unrestricted
12:08 < zeropod> true
12:08 < benryves> My last two phones have had Flash *shrugs*
12:08 < benryves> Admittedly a cut-down Flash as they're cheap (ie, free) handsets, but it's there at least.
12:09 < tr1p1ea> and what OS have those phones run? :)
12:09 < benryves> Whatever Sony Ericsson's crash-prone POS is called on the older one and the bog standard S40 OS my current one.
12:09 < zeropod> tr1p1pe, OS X, not Mac OS X, but a derovitave of it
12:10 < zeropod> err, tr1p1ea
12:11 < zeropod> in reality, you can hackinstall flash
12:12 < zeropod> if you jailbreak your device and install other stuff
12:12 < zeropod> but i can't jailbreak my touch yet
12:12 < benryves> You shouldn't need to do so, though. :(
12:12 < tr1p1ea> yeh ive read that somewhere
12:12 < zeropod> apple assumed youtube was enough flash for kiddies?
12:13 < benryves> I don't think it uses Flash for YouTube, does it? Rather it serves the content directly to the iPhone without using the Flash player.
12:13 < zeropod> it does 
12:13 < zeropod> no flash here :)
12:14 < zeropod> personally i don't need flash. just a jailbreak 
12:14 < zeropod> then i can have irc and stuff
12:15 < benryves> Needing to "jailbreak" hardware so you can use it for its intended purpose just sounds wrong to me. :(
12:15 < zeropod> what indended purpose?
12:16 < zeropod> i doubt apple ever saw it's devices taking on lives like these
12:16 < benryves> In your case, you said IRC.
12:16 < zeropod> it's a MUSIC PLAYER :)
12:17 <@E-J> one exam down, 2 to go (on next week)
12:17 < zeropod> and someone wrote an irc app, but they did it wrong
12:17 < benryves> zeropod: Oh, sorry, I thought you were talking about the iPhone.
12:17 < zeropod> actually, a few, all wrong. and none free
12:18 < benryves> E-J: How did it go? And do you know much about S60?
12:18 < zeropod> iphone really doesn't need irc either. but the irc options offered third party through the app store are of sub par quality
12:18 <@E-J> it is maybe passed, but i doubt
12:19 <@E-J> and i know very little about s60, i have only used it
12:19 < benryves> E-J: Ah, can't find any way to lock the keypad other than some third-party apps to add the functionality (which seems bizarre).
12:20 < zeropod> hit the power button, it's option one or two
12:20 < zeropod> at least on my n75 it was
12:20 <@E-J> benryves: do you mean automatically?
12:20 < benryves> E-J: Either/or.
12:20 <@E-J> new message + * is normal locking
12:20 <@E-J> or menu + *
12:21 < benryves> E-J: It's not even that any more on S40 devices (on my phone I have to open/close it, or can add a shortcut to the icon bar).
12:22 < benryves> I'll check the power menu, though, thanks zeropod.
12:22 < zeropod> no prob
12:23 < zeropod> my 6133 had it there too, but sometes I'd accidently shut it off... that is bad
12:24 < zeropod> the tmobile branded 6133, maybe all of them, took 6+ mins to turn on all the way
12:24 <@E-J> i can't remember how did i put autolock on, but it is there
12:24 < benryves> Yikes, zeropod. :(
12:25 < zeropod> iknow
12:25 < zeropod> it sucks
12:25 < benryves> E-J: I found an option to do so, but it prompts for a security code and my network have thoughtfully neglected to tell us the PIN codes.
12:25 <@E-J> benryves: why?
12:26 < benryves> E-J: No idea. And I can't check the usual suspects as it brings up a "Last chance!" warning beforehand.
12:26 <@E-J> have you tried 1234?
12:26 <@E-J> ach
12:27 < benryves> (No PUK or PUK2 either).
12:28 < zeropod> hmm, i ought to be gettin to sleep
12:28 < zeropod> maybe tomorrow i'll figire out how to stream video to my touch
12:29 < zeropod> without using vnc... the touch doesn't like the 3000x1050 or so rez i have on my comp lol
12:29 < benryves> Hehe
12:31 < zeropod> like, a third display that uses wifi to connect
12:31 < tr1p1ea> i realised that my $50 phone can youtube
12:31 < tr1p1ea> lol
12:32 < benryves> tr1p1ea: PAYG?
12:32 < tr1p1ea> yeh, but i used my other sim
12:34 < zeropod> ben, perhaps if i ever get code savvy i might be able to port a 83+ emulator ;)
12:34 < benryves> Heh, that would be cool. :)
12:34 < zeropod> indeed
12:34 < zeropod> or a gamegear emu ;)
12:35 < benryves> *cough* http://www.javagear.co.uk/ :P
12:35 <@E-J> bengear
12:35 < zeropod> ok, sleep for reals
12:35 < benryves> 'night!
12:38 < benryves> tr1p1ea: Is data expensive in Aus?
12:39 <@E-J> as expensive as water?
12:56 < tr1p1ea> benryves: b
12:56 < tr1p1ea> err
12:56 < tr1p1ea> YES
12:58 < benryves> Hm :(
12:59 < tr1p1ea> incredibly and borderline illegal
12:59 < tr1p1ea> when compared to internation standards
12:59 < benryves> What, it's worse than the USA?
13:01 < tr1p1ea> $50 gets you 3GB data
13:01 < tr1p1ea> for a wireless broadband connection
13:02 < tr1p1ea> for phone data, its like $2/MB
13:02 < tr1p1ea> which is BS!
13:02 < tr1p1ea> you can get better deals with plans etc ... but its still ludicrous
13:03 < benryves> $32 (AUD) would get you 5GB here.
13:03 < benryves> Or 3GB if you only got a 12-month contract (5GB for the 18-month contract).
13:07 < tr1p1ea> a month?
13:08 < benryves> Yes, a month.
13:08 < benryves> (That's £15 in UK money) ;)
13:09 < tr1p1ea> UK!
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13:15 < zeropod> Thirty bucks got me unlimited data..
13:34 <@E-J> zeropod: i have unlimited data and it's only 10 euros/month
13:35 < zeropod> blegh to you lol
13:41 < tr1p1ea> So Cristiano Ronaldo crashed his Ferrari
13:41 < tr1p1ea> good thing he still has a Bentley, BMW, Porsche and some road bikes to choose from in his garage
13:42 <@E-J> and because of that, i get invoice every 2 months (sp doesn't send it, if it's less than 20 euros)
13:42 <@E-J> tr1p1ea: he should have hurt himself a little bit so he would drive little more carefully next time
13:43 <@E-J> now he still looks gay and drive little too fast
13:44 < tr1p1ea> now he has survived a massive accident
13:44 < tr1p1ea> he is tough
13:45 <@E-J> nah, lucky bastard
13:45 < benryves> Wait, isn't he a footballer?
13:45 <@E-J> yes
13:45 < tr1p1ea> yes
13:45 < benryves> "Tough" hardly applies, then. ;)
13:45 <@E-J> plays in ManU
13:45 <@E-J> benryves: he is "pretty boy" from portugal
13:46 < tr1p1ea> FIFA World PLayer of the Year
13:46 < tr1p1ea> Player*
13:46 <@E-J> and always crying in field when someone touches him
13:47 < benryves> E-J: My point exactly.
13:47 <@E-J> sure he can make goals and has some skills
13:47 <@E-J> but otherwise wimp
13:47 < benryves> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=uOivzoRc0I8 <- *that*s how you play football. :P
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13:48 <@E-J> heh
13:48 < benryves> (Has he insulted Finland yet)?
13:49 <@E-J> i don't know, if he would have, i think some newspaper would have said about it
13:49 < benryves> He seems to be competing against the Duke of Edinburgh to see how many different countries he can insult.
13:49 < tr1p1ea> lol fair tackle!
13:52 < benryves> http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Prince_Philip,_Duke_of_Edinburgh <- a breath of fresh air in this PC climate. ;)
13:52 <@E-J> only 2 insults i remember was chirac's "finnish food is worse than english" and mussol...berlusconi's "finns doesn't even know what's Prosciutto"
13:53 < tr1p1ea> but english food is good!
13:53 < benryves> "British women can't cook." - Duke of Edinburgh ;)
13:55 <@E-J> http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Jacques_Chirac#European_Union last one
13:56 < benryves> Hehe :)
13:59 <@E-J> we have only matti nykänen who is former ski jumper, singer, stripper and "arguably the best ever in ski jump"
13:59 < benryves> Surely not as good as Eddie "The Eagle" Edwards? :P
14:00 <@E-J> he have sayings like "it's 50-60 what will happen next"
14:00 <@E-J> benryves: well, nykänen won 5 olympic golds
14:00 < benryves> Ah, those are called "Colemanballs" in the UK - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colemanballs
14:00 <@E-J> eddie had fear of hights
14:02 <@E-J> "every change is an opportunity" - matti nykänen
14:02 <@E-J> or "tomorrow is always the future"
14:03 <@E-J> http://www.spiritus-temporis.com/matti-nyk%E4nen/famous-quotes.html
14:05 < benryves> Hehe :)
14:05 <@E-J> and our sport commentators do those colemanballs here as well
14:06 < benryves> Private Eye doesn't restrict itself to commentators these days - http://private-eye.co.uk/sections.php?section_link=colemanballs
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14:13 <@E-J> damn you ben, i'm now watching videos of best finnish commentator
14:14 <@E-J> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJWADtQ9m9U&feature=related
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14:40 < Merthsoft> yoyoyo
14:41 < Merthsoft> benryves: it costs 1000 bucks to get to your country
14:43 <@E-J> Merthsoft: found your sausages
14:43 < Merthsoft> oh i'm in love
14:44 < benryves> Merthsoft: Heya, and how do you mean?
14:44 < Merthsoft> i looked up plane tickets to london and they're all >1000
14:44 < Merthsoft> same with helsinki, E-J 
14:45 <@E-J> just checking how much it will cost to send that to usa, and is it even possible
14:45 < Merthsoft> haha, thanks :)
14:45 < Merthsoft> to get to australia is >1500
14:45 < Merthsoft> my dreams of travel will nevr come to light :(
14:45 < benryves> Merthsoft: Aww :(
14:46 < sir_lewk> Merthsoft: that's just to keep out cruft like you. :P
14:46 < Merthsoft> quiet you
14:46 < sir_lewk> anyways, just get a job on a freighter going that way
14:46 < sir_lewk> or look for boarding on one
14:46 < Merthsoft> haha, i'll just wait until i have a career somewhere and a wife with a career somewhere
14:47 < sir_lewk> you can often get paid, or pay for a cheap ass trip on freight ships
14:47 < sir_lewk> it just isn't fast
14:47 < Merthsoft> hmm, that might be something to think about, actually
14:47 < Merthsoft> thanks for the tip
14:47 < sir_lewk> np
14:47 <@E-J> when i travelled to australia it was 1600 euros
14:48 < Merthsoft> benryves: sounds like your emulator has a Heisenbug
14:48 < benryves> Merthsoft: Yep. :(
14:48 < sir_lewk> I think cough medicine should clear that up
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14:49 < ports-> oh
14:50 < ports-> dont you people have to go to school or work or something?
14:50 < sir_lewk> woo, new Dresden Codak
14:50 < sir_lewk> I'm at work :P
14:50 < ports-> sir_lewk:  me too
14:50 < Merthsoft> i go to work when i want
14:52 < sir_lewk> sticking it to the man eh?
14:52 < Ox40Work> well, mythbuntu finished torrenting before vista, guess it's linux for me
14:53 < ports-> lol
14:53 < sir_lewk> haha
14:54 < sir_lewk> well of course it did, vista is slow :P
14:55 < Merthsoft> vista is great
14:56  * sir_lewk ducks out of #tcpa before the food starts really flying
14:56 < sir_lewk> I think we've been down this road quite a few times ;P
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14:57 < Ox40Work> Are web cookie expirations measured in seconds or ms?
14:57 <@E-J> Merthsoft: it might be little expensive to send those
14:57 < Merthsoft> how much?
14:58 < benryves> Ox40Work: As dates.
14:59 <@E-J> 0.5kg sausage which costs 3.5 euros in store, cheapest way "economy" says that it's 24.1 euros sending costs
14:59 < sir_lewk> yeah, there'd be little point in having a cookie that expires after x milliseconds or seconds
15:00 < Merthsoft> jeez
15:00 < Merthsoft> that's silly
15:00 < sir_lewk> you're silly
15:00 < sir_lewk> silly billy
15:02 <@E-J> 13.1 euros if i send with maxi letter
15:03 < ports-> sir_lewk:  mother fucker
15:03  * ports- stabs sir_lewk  in the throat
15:03 < sir_lewk> D:
15:03  * sir_lewk dies
15:03 <@E-J> http://www.posti.fi/english/cardsandletters/internationalcardsandletters/maxiletter.html
15:04 < ports-> sir_lewk:  i was doing some tests yesterday... and i was hoping one of them would fail.
15:04 < ports-> that way i could eliminate a method in my work..
15:05 < ports-> but i found an area where both methods work.... shit
15:05 < Merthsoft> E-J: That's still a lot
15:05 <@E-J> yep
15:06 <@E-J> it would be cheaper if usa would be part of eu
15:07 < benryves> Haha :D
15:07 < benryves> Can't see them agreeing to that, somehow.
15:09 < ports-> fuck
15:09 < ports-> fuck
15:09 < ports-> i dont like this
15:09 < sir_lewk> poops
15:10 < Merthsoft> does java have a delay function?
15:10 < benryves> Thread.sleep(ms);
15:10 <@E-J> benryves: they are part of OSCE
15:11 < Merthsoft> blah exceptions
15:11 < Ox40Work> http://rafb.net/p/798H9386.html
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15:13 < benryves> Ox40Work: Er?
15:13 < Ox40Work> interresting function :P
15:13 < benryves> WTF is it?
15:13 < Ox40Work> getDomain
15:14 < Ox40Work> ()
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15:14 < benryves> I can see that, but what does it do? :P
15:14 < Ox40Work> i have no idea :P
15:14 < Ox40Work> I just found it in some source
15:14 < benryves> Looks like the author needed to be pointed at the parse_url docs.
15:15 < ports-> gasp.. im so excited
15:15 < ports-> and i just cant hide it
15:15 < ports-> my 16gb flash drive arrived yesterday
15:15  * Merthsoft has graphicall implemented bubble sort
15:16 < ports-> and hopefully my 32gb flash drive will arrive tomorrow!
15:16 <@E-J> Merthsoft: btw, helsinki-new york is only 558 euros
15:16 < benryves> Merthsoft: Like the QB demo?
15:16 < ports-> my collection is almost complete
15:16 < Merthsoft> benryves: maybe?
15:16 < ports-> 128mb, 512mb, 1gb, 2gb, 4gb, 8gb, 16gb, 32gb
15:16 < Merthsoft> E-J: columbus-helsinki (round trip) is 1000
15:16 < ports-> i need a 256mb flash drive
15:16 < benryves> Merthsoft: Oh, heh, QB came with a sorting demo that graphically (well, textmode) illustrated several sorting algorithms.
15:16 < Merthsoft> oh, then probably
15:16 < tr1p1ea_> and a 16/32/64
15:17 < benryves> ports-: Those digital photo frame keyrings are about 8MB
15:17 < ports-> benryves:  ok
15:17 < tr1p1ea_> benryves:  ok
15:17 < benryves> (If you're looking to go down the low end of the scale). :P
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15:18 <@E-J> Merthsoft: lowest fare 700 euros
15:18 <@E-J> but 700 eur is about 1000 usd (maybe)
15:20 < ports-> benryves:  im not
15:21 < benryves> ports-: Heh, fair enough, fair enough. :D
15:21 < tr1p1ea> E-J: can i borrow 1000euros?
15:22 < Merthsoft> tr1p1ea!
15:22 < Merthsoft> getting to your country costs a buttload too
15:22 < tr1p1ea> :X
15:22 < benryves> I dunno, my sister went from my country to near tr1p1ea's country via your country.
15:23 <@E-J> i was in tr1p1ea's country
15:23 < tr1p1ea> i was here too
15:23 < tr1p1ea> err
15:23 <@E-J> even near tr1p1ea's town
15:24 <@E-J> kilroy travels gives hel to cmh 19 hour travel with 2 stops
15:25 < Merthsoft> how much?
15:25 <@E-J> and just 714.81 euros
15:25 < Merthsoft> round?
15:25 < Merthsoft> 714.81 Euros = 977.431194 U.S. dollars
15:25 <@E-J> helsinki-munchen-charlotte-columbus
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15:30 < ports-> wtf
15:30 <+kirsk> yes
15:31 < benryves> Merthsoft: Are you planning a world tour,then?
15:31 < Merthsoft> when i grow up :(
15:32 < Merthsoft> i can't afford travel right now, i'm a poor college kid
15:33 < tr1p1ea> optus
15:34 < benryves> Merthsoft: Fair enough :(
15:34 < sir_lewk> hmm
15:34 < sir_lewk> I should start using a tiled windowmanager...
15:35 < sir_lewk> all I have open right now is a bunch of xterms, it's kind of silly to be using KDE4 for that
15:35 <@E-J> tr1p1ea: the 'yes' optus?
15:35 < Merthsoft> http://merthsoft.calc.org/GraphicalSort.class (needs http://merthsoft.calcg.org/Picture.class)
15:35 < Merthsoft> right now it's just bubble
15:36 < benryves> sir_lewk: Hehe :)
15:36 <+kirsk> sir_lewk: its also kind of silly to spend time adjusting your system when the current window manager's tile function gets the job done well
15:36 < benryves> Merthsoft: 404
15:36 < sir_lewk> you still have wasted realestate
15:36 <+kirsk> ?
15:37 < sir_lewk> good tiled windowmanagers let you fit a lot more in, no windowdecorations or taskbars getting in the way
15:37 < Merthsoft> benryves: http://merthsoft.calcg.org/GraphicalSort.class
15:37 < Merthsoft> hehe
15:37 < sir_lewk> I *could do that with kde, but it seems easier to use something meant for that
15:37 <+kirsk> i know but cant you hide that stuff
15:37 <@E-J> sir_lewk: you could press ctrl-alt-f3 (or some other function button) then there screen<enter> and just many windows to one "screen"
15:37 <+kirsk> ah
15:38 < benryves> Merthsoft: Nice. :D
15:38 < sir_lewk> screen is nice, doesn't do vertical splits though (unless you get the CVS version)
15:39 < sir_lewk> and it only does 16 colors and is a bitch for unicode
15:39 < Merthsoft> benryves: isn't it cute
15:39 < Merthsoft> i haven't done bubble sort in liek years
15:39 <@E-J> it's not bitch for unicode
15:40 < sir_lewk> meh, well it isn't set up for unicode nicely by default anyways
15:40 <@E-J> http://www.sonnyradio.com/dialupkid.htm
15:40 < benryves> Merthsoft: The QB one was horizontal rather than vertical and had randomly coloured bars, similar otherwise.
15:40 < sir_lewk> ssh->screen->irssi fails for unicode for me
15:40 < sir_lewk> I don't really feel like figuring it out
15:40 < Merthsoft> haha, neat
15:40 <@E-J> heh
15:41 < Merthsoft> i need to remember how selection and insertion sort work now
15:41 < sir_lewk> only 16 colors is a killer for me, my Vim setup uses 256
15:41 < tr1p1ea> 16 colours is more than you'll ever need!
15:41 <@E-J> Merthsoft: http://www.cs.hut.fi/Research/TRAKLA2/exercises/index.shtml
15:41 < Merthsoft> i'm color blind :(
15:41 < sir_lewk> *need* perhaps, a good 256 colorscheme for Vim is damned nice though
15:42 < benryves> Merthsoft: Curious then that the colours you picked are red and green, surely?
15:42 < Merthsoft> what?
15:42 < tr1p1ea> :P
15:42 < benryves> Merthsoft: Red-green colourblindness is the most common form.
15:42 < ports-> oh
15:42 < ports-> im sleepy
15:42 < Merthsoft> p.setPenColor(0, 255, 0); makes sense even if yoru colorblind :)
15:43 < sir_lewk> oh wait, gnu screen can do 256 colors
15:43 < sir_lewk> cool
15:43 < Merthsoft> http://www.colblindor.com/wp-content/images/normal-vision.jpg http://www.colblindor.com/wp-content/images/deuteranopic-vision.jpg these two look the same to me, according to my g/f they are different
15:44 < benryves> That they are.
15:44 < Merthsoft> lame
15:44 <+kirsk> colours are different
15:44 < tr1p1ea> i was doing a course and they had something like r = 0; g = 128; b = 255; this.Colour = r | (g>>8) | (b>>16);
15:45 <+kirsk> no red or green?
15:45 < tr1p1ea> and the teacher is like, so as you can see its 256 colours
15:45 <+kirsk> (in the second pic)
15:45 < tr1p1ea> :\
15:45 < sir_lewk> they are not all that different
15:45 < benryves> tr1p1ea: << ;)
15:45 < sir_lewk> I can see the color difference though, it's only a small part of it though
15:45 < tr1p1ea> benryves :X!
15:45 < tr1p1ea> :)
15:45 < benryves> sir_lewk: What about the bottom half of the image?
15:46 <+kirsk> only a small part of it? try everything in the pic that isnt yellow/white/black
15:46 < Merthsoft> it's all the same guys stop messing with me
15:46 < benryves> Merthsoft: Try a colour picker tool in an image manipulation program.
15:46 < Merthsoft> no, i believe you :(
15:48 <@E-J> one guy in army was colourblind and they still put him to work as sea watcher
15:51 < sir_lewk> oh, I was just looking at the lizard
15:52 <@E-J> (boats have red and green lights which show sides)
15:55 < Merthsoft> woo selection sort
15:56 <@E-J> did you look link i pasted?
15:58 < Merthsoft> no
15:59 < Merthsoft> haha, i so don't understand insertion sort :P
16:05 < Merthsoft> but i did it :)
16:05 < benryves> The clue is sort of in the name. :)
16:05 < Merthsoft> benryveshttp://merthsoft.calcg.org/GraphicalSort.class
16:05 < Merthsoft> haha
16:05 <+kirsk> ok, CHOICE: work at nearby small (15 min bike) php company for 2000 to become 2500 -OR- at a company where I have to travel to assignments throughout the country (1-2 hours by train) every day for 2100 to become 2700
16:05 < Merthsoft> http://merthsoft.calcg.org/GraphicalSort.class
16:05 < Merthsoft> done
16:05 <@E-J> there are some games that might help you to understand those sorting things
16:06 <@E-J> used in our Data Structures and Algorithms course
16:06 < benryves> Merthsoft: Blue too, how you spoil us. :D
16:06 < Merthsoft> i don't need to udnerstand them, just implement them :)
16:07 < Merthsoft> benryves: selection and insertion needed two highlights :)
16:08 < Merthsoft> i added a neart sorted option, where there're only 10 swaps initially
16:09 < Merthsoft> nearly sorted*
16:09 < Merthsoft> i think selection is my favorite
16:10 < tr1p1ea> what data are you sorting?
16:10 < Merthsoft> random ints
16:10 < tr1p1ea> any range?
16:10 < Merthsoft> from 1 to 100
16:10 < benryves> Merthsoft: You need bogosort for completeness.
16:10 < Merthsoft> and only one of each
16:10 < Merthsoft> benryves: ahahaha
16:10 < Merthsoft> not a bad idea ;)
16:11 < benryves> Merthsoft: It is the most efficient algorithm, of course.
16:11 < benryves> *(For an already-sorted collection).
16:11 < Merthsoft> Is it sorted? If not, swap two random elements. repeat
16:11 < Merthsoft> hooray
16:11 < tr1p1ea> what about assume sort?
16:11 < Merthsoft> what's assume sort?
16:11 < tr1p1ea> where it assumes that the initial state is already sorted and returns nothing :)
16:12 < benryves> Merthsoft: Proper bogosort reshuffles *everything*. ;)
16:12 < sir_lewk> everyone knows that the bubblesort is the best sort
16:12 < Merthsoft> ahaha, that's right, boZosort is the one that just swaps
16:12 < Merthsoft> tr1p1ea: awesome
16:12 < Merthsoft> i feel that bozo would be more fun to watch
16:13 < benryves> Stooge sort looks pretty good, too.
16:14 <@E-J> finnish sort: order first nicely things to sort, then raise your voice and put extra "perkele" in the end
16:15 <+kirsk> lulz
16:15 < benryves> Hehe :D
16:16 < Merthsoft> what's stooge sort?
16:16 < benryves> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stooge_sort
16:16 < tr1p1ea> destructive sort? (destroy elements that arent in the correct position)
16:16 < Merthsoft> hahaha, that's silly
16:17 <@E-J> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Management_by_perkele
16:17 < Merthsoft> this bozosort will never complete
16:18 < Merthsoft> what're some more (non-recursive) sorts?
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16:19 < sir_lewk> bubblesort
16:19 < Merthsoft> did it already
16:19 < sir_lewk> bubblesort is nonrecursive, about as simple as you can get
16:19 <@E-J> Merthsort
16:19 < sir_lewk> ah
16:19 < Merthsoft> i have bubble, insertion, selection, and bozo
16:19 < sir_lewk> hmm
16:19 < sir_lewk> not sure of any others then
16:20 <@E-J> quicksort?
16:20 <@E-J> that's recursive
16:20 <@E-J> Merthsoft: mergesort
16:21 < tr1p1ea> sawp'n'start sort?
16:21 < Merthsoft> also recursive
16:21 < tr1p1ea> aye?
16:21 < Merthsoft> tr1p1ea: what's that?
16:21 < tr1p1ea> oh, merge
16:21 < tr1p1ea> gnome sort
16:22 < Merthsoft> what's  sawp'n'start sor
16:22 <@Andy_J> bogo sort
16:22 < benryves> Any recursive function can be rewritten to be iterative.
16:22 < sir_lewk> merge is recursive, basically a simplified quicksort
16:22 < sir_lewk> that is true
16:22 <@E-J> heapsort?
16:22 < sir_lewk> but an interative quicksort would be kinda weird ;P
16:22 <@E-J> http://www.cs.hut.fi/Research/TRAKLA2/exercises/HeapSort.html
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16:23 < Merthsoft> gnome sort is cool
16:24 <@Andy_J> not as cool as quantum bogosort
16:24 < tr1p1ea> hhmmm...
16:24 < Merthsoft> i have bozo sort, which is just a simplified bogosort
16:24 < tr1p1ea> actually swap'n'start is worse than bubble
16:24 < tr1p1ea> dont worry about it
16:24 < Merthsoft> it can be worse, i don't care
16:24 < Merthsoft> how;s it work?
16:24 < tr1p1ea> well its basically half a bubble sort
16:25 < tr1p1ea> once it swaps once, it goes back to the start
16:25 < Merthsoft> oh ew
16:25 < tr1p1ea> u got gnome sort?
16:26 < Merthsoft> i haven't implemented it, but i read what it was
16:26 < i_c-Y> what are you sorting, Merthsoft ?
16:26 < tr1p1ea> shell sort?
16:27 < Merthsoft> random ints
16:27 < Merthsoft> 0-100
16:27 < Merthsoft> with only one of each
16:27 < Merthsoft> 1-100 i mean
16:27 < Merthsoft> i don't need speed, it's a graphical demo of what sorts do
16:27 < i_c-Y> oh. its small enough probably that an O(N^2) sort probably works best.
16:27 < i_c-Y> you could do a radix or bucket sort (though O(N) sorts are probably beaten by O(N^2) sorts)
16:28 <@E-J> radix is recursive
16:28 < i_c-Y> it can be iterative.
16:28 <@E-J> i think merge can be too
16:29 < Merthsoft> bbl gotta walk the dog
16:31 < i_c-Y> mergesort is normally recursive.
16:32 < i_c-Y> anyhow, Merthsoft , if you want a bunch of sorts (and some clever approaches to doing it), Programing Pearls by Bentley and Algorithms in Java (or C++) by Sedgewick and TAOCP by Knuth and Introduction to Algorithms by Cormen et al are good places to look. 
16:33 < i_c-Y> a fancier one than insertion sort but works on the same idea is strand sort. and if you use a binary search tree, you can pull items out in sorted order.
16:33 < sir_lewk> oh oh oh
16:33 <@E-J> i have book "data structures and algorithms (in java)"
16:33 < sir_lewk> I just thought up THE BEST sort ever
16:33 < i_c-Y> E-J: by?
16:34 < sir_lewk> this is called "The Greco DOOM Sort"
16:34 < sir_lewk> ready?
16:34 <@E-J> i_c-Y: mark allen weiss
16:34 < i_c-Y> E-J: oh, i have the C++ version of that book 
16:34 < i_c-Y> its alright, but the others reccomended are tonnes better.
16:34 <@E-J> data structures and algorithm analysis in java
16:34 < sir_lewk> you set up a doom game, each number determines how powerful each monster is.  they you set all the monsters on each other
16:34 < sir_lewk> smaller numbers die first
16:34 < sir_lewk> larger ones last
16:35 < sir_lewk> hell yes.
16:35 <@E-J> that was for that data structures and algorithms course i took some years ago
16:35 < i_c-Y> given that the numbers are ints from 1 to 100, make an array of size 101, and just use the number to fill in its appropriate index.
16:35 < sir_lewk> I need to implement that
16:35 <@E-J> which have those trakla excersises
16:35 <@E-J> cises*
16:36 < i_c-Y> pidgenhole and counting sorts are also some others. bead is slow and tedious.
16:37 < i_c-Y> an interesting one, Merthsoft , is the patience sort because it does longest increasing subsequence
16:37 < i_c-Y> and if you're doing bubble sort, you may as well do shaker (bubble from both sides fo the array)
16:38 <@E-J> http://www.hs.fi/videot/1135242614358
16:38 < sir_lewk> do the Doom Sort
16:38 < i_c-Y> or if you want to do a fancier bubble sort variant, comb sort
16:38 < sir_lewk> that'd impress everyone
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16:38 < i_c-Y> which works on extrema
16:38 < sir_lewk> the doom sort would totally work on extrema
16:38 < i_c-Y> quicksort is always a fun one too
16:39 < sir_lewk> everyone's implemented quicksort at some point
16:39 <@E-J> http://www.cs.hut.fi/Research/TRAKLA2/exercises/RecursiveQuicksort.html
16:39 <@E-J> maybe i just play this
16:41 < sir_lewk> damn I love quicksort
16:41 < sir_lewk> so f'ing elegant
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16:41 < sir_lewk> heyya karn`
16:41 < karn`> hey how do i get the 89t to 'devide' instead of show it as a fraction
16:42 < sir_lewk> diamond+enter
16:42 < sir_lewk> ie, "solve"
16:42 < sir_lewk> keyboard meta-key
16:42 < i_c-Y> or set your calculator mode to approx
16:42 < sir_lewk> yup
16:42 < i_c-Y> mode -> f3 -> approx
16:43 < sir_lewk> I prefer diamond+enter because then you don't always have an approx
16:45 <@E-J> and one is just put "." after number
16:45 <@E-J> like 3/2.
16:46 < sir_lewk> ah, interesting
16:46 < karn`> yeah, f3 approx, i forgot about taht
16:46 < karn`> heh
16:46 < karn`> hm
16:46 <@E-J> that is if you don't have mode as exact
16:47 < karn`> so is 29.115 like 115 the remainder?
16:47 < karn`> or .115 of the number you divided with?
16:47 <@E-J> remainder
16:48 <@E-J> it's 115/1000
16:50 <@Andy_J> it's ... a .... decimal ...
16:50 < karn`> so like 2793158/95931 = 29.1163
16:51 < karn`> shouldnt 95931 * 29 + 1163 be 2793158 ?
16:51 < sir_lewk> like 1/4 = .25
16:51 < sir_lewk> a decimal
16:53 < karn`> gah, this isnt working
16:55 < sir_lewk> try [1] [/] [4] [diamond](holddown)[enter](release diamond)
16:56 < sir_lewk> should say .25
16:57 < karn`> yeah,...but 95931 * 29 + 1163 not 2793158 ;<
16:57 < Merthsoft> .1163 is the decimal
16:57 < karn`> not the remainder..
16:58 < Merthsoft> right
16:58 < karn`> how do i get the remainder?
16:58 < sir_lewk> 95931 * 29 + 1163 = 27931557753
16:59 < karn`> =o
16:59 < Merthsoft> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modular_arithmetic#Remainders
16:59 < sir_lewk> 95931 * 29 = 2781999
17:00 < karn`>  95931 * 29 = 2781999 + 1163, heh
17:00 < sir_lewk> wait, nvm
17:00 < sir_lewk> typo ;)
17:01 <@E-J> karn`: mod(2793158,95931)
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17:01 <@E-J> iirc
17:01 < sir_lewk> yeah, mod() is modulo
17:02 < karn`> 11159
17:03 < karn`> lol same thing as 2793158-95931
17:03 < karn`> 2793158-2781119 i ment
17:04 < karn`> now im confused on how mod works again
17:04 < sir_lewk> mod returns the remainder
17:04 < sir_lewk> 7%4 = 3
17:04 < karn`> x - (y * x / y)
17:04 < sir_lewk> (% being mod)
17:04 < karn`> something like that
17:04 <@E-J> do you have that spanish novel called el manual?-)
17:05 < karn`> yes it was very vague ant took 6 hours to understand mod
17:05 < karn`> heh
17:05 < sir_lewk> 9%7=2
17:05 < karn`> 7 mod 3 = 1, when it made perfect sence it should be 8
17:05 < karn`> heh
17:05 < sir_lewk> 11%10=1
17:06 < sir_lewk> 21%10=1
17:06 < Merthsoft> nothing mod 3 should ever be 8
17:06 < Merthsoft> 0, 1, ro 2
17:06 < sir_lewk> karn`: 3 goes into 7 two times, multiply 3 by two then
17:06 < sir_lewk> you get 6
17:06 < sir_lewk> 7-6 = 1
17:06 < karn`> 7 - 3 * 7 / 3 = 1, ...and it = 8 if you (7 - 3) * (7 / 3)
17:06 < karn`> heh
17:06 < sir_lewk> 3 does not go into 1
17:06 < sir_lewk> so the answer is 1
17:07 <@E-J> karn`: how old are you?
17:07 < karn`> old enought to forget how my order of operations go
17:07 < sir_lewk> "7 - 3 * 7 / 3 = 1, ...and it = 8 if you (7 - 3) * (7 / 3)" I don't know what any of that is but forget about it
17:07 < sir_lewk> this has nothing to do with order of operations, it's just division
17:07 <@E-J> but apparently too young to understand how math works
17:07 < sir_lewk> how many times does 3 go into 11?
17:07 < Merthsoft> PEMDAS
17:08 < karn`> in the 89 book for mod the explanition was how mod worked was 7 - 3 * floor(7/3)
17:08 < sir_lewk> well then that is terribly confusing and whatever
17:08 < sir_lewk> just go by "it's the remainder"
17:08 < karn`> yes, i know, it was
17:09 < karn`> mod = remainder
17:09 < sir_lewk> 11 mod 3 = 2 because 3 only goes into 11 three times
17:09 < sir_lewk> 3 * 3 = 9
17:09 < sir_lewk> 11 - 9 = 2
17:09 < karn`> yes, taht makes alot more sence
17:09 < karn`> heh
17:10 < sir_lewk> mod is a really nifty little operation once you get the hang of it :)
17:10 < karn`> heh
17:10 < sir_lewk> good for a lot of stuff
17:10 < karn`> ok, so let me see what i did wrong
17:11 < Speler> http://www.pcworld.com/article/156777/burger_king_asks_you_to_choose_friends_or_food.html
17:11 < karn`> gah
17:11 < karn`> i just cant devide
17:11 < karn`> when i do it on paper i get 29 r 11159
17:12 < i_c-Y> divide*
17:12 < karn`> cant spedd either
17:12 < karn`> spell, lol
17:12 < karn`> more like type
17:13 < karn`> but i dont know why i get r 11159 on paper,,it seems right
17:14 < karn`> what am i doing wrong, heh
17:16 <@E-J> everything
17:19 < Merthsoft> not everything
17:19 < Merthsoft> he seems to be failling pretty correctly
17:19 < karn`> heh
17:22 < Merthsoft> work time bye guys
17:22 < karn`> so you came up with the same answer?
17:24 < karn`> http://webpages.charter.net/Karn/see.txt
17:24 < karn`> tahts what i did
17:33 <+kirsk> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8sswYPhyQU  awww
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17:44 < i_c-Y> efneti86, return to us!
17:47 -!- mode/#tcpa [+o efneTI92] by efneTI85, efneTI81, efneTI89
17:48 < karn`> http://webpages.charter.net/Karn/see.JPG ! im right and i know it, my calculator is wrong
17:49 < i_c-Y> its 29.1163...
17:49 < karn`> 11159
17:49 < i_c-Y> or 29 R 11159
17:49 <@Andy_J> that's the answer mod() gives me on my 89Ti
17:50 <@Andy_J> What's the problem?
17:50 < i_c-Y> and enough with the crossposting, karn` 
17:51 < sir_lewk> I crossposted with you mom i_c-Y
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17:56 < sir_lewk> poor guy, has no clue what he's talking about :-/
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17:57 < sir_lewk> wb
18:02  * sir_lewk --> lunch
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18:25 < karn`> heh, this guy left me negitive feedback on ebay so i went to abunch of those ad websites adn filled out abunch of forms with his hame/email/address/phone and work phone, haha
18:26 < i_c-Y> how immature.
18:26 < karn`> i thought it was very funny.
18:26 < karn`> he said i never sent the item and cause he wanted me to send it before he sent the payment
18:26 < karn`> and sellers can no longer leave buyers negitive feedback
18:26 <@E-J> very immature
18:26 < karn`> plus i still had to pay the 7$ listing fee
18:27 < karn`> yes..he if very immature
18:27 < karn`> is
18:28 <@E-J> you are very immature
18:28 < karn`> and what would you haev done?
18:28 < i_c-Y> cant you file nonpaying buyer?
18:29 < karn`> i emaild ebay atleast 10 tiems, all i got was automated responses
18:30 < karn`> then after doing some research i finally got ebays trust adn safty number and called them adn they suspended my account cause only power sellers are allowed to call them
18:30 <@E-J> maybe you should write more proper english and they might answer you
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18:35 < Merth> Noooo, I need ben!
18:35 < Nikky> :(
18:37 < i_c-Y> y
18:37 < Merth> xml with C#
18:37 < Nikky> lulz
18:37 < i_c-Y> lulz
18:37 < Nikky> that sounds painful
18:37 < i_c-Y> that sounds painful
18:37 < Merth> it's not, really
18:37 < Merth> C# is very good with xml
18:40 < Nikky> I'm very good with Merth 
18:41 < Merth> that's kinda true i guess
18:41 < Nikky> So our local international airport built a third runway
18:41 < Nikky> it seems the local retards who live next to said airport were unaware that they were... next to an airport
18:41 < Nikky> "My wife, she cried for two weeks," Burien resident Ken Turner said at the meeting. "This is hugely affecting my personal life and my family. It's damaged me seriously."
18:41 < chronomex> hah
18:42 < Nikky> Burien resident Ken Turner is a moron.
18:42 < chronomex> yes, I can tell
18:42 < Nikky> Gee, I wonder why this house is so inexpensive
18:42 < chronomex> :O my screen session is up to 17 windows
18:42 < Nikky> hah
18:43 < _Auron_> only?
18:43 < chronomex> I try to keep it under around 10
18:43 < Merth> i have 2
18:43 < _Auron_> then again I only have 5
18:43 < Nikky> wait, your screen session?
18:43 < chronomex> yeah, on dante
18:44 < Nikky> you mean you have 17 different screens?
18:44 < chronomex> yeah
18:44 < chronomex> couldn't remember the correct term
18:44 < _Auron_> oh, nm :P
18:44 < Nikky> me neither
18:44 < Nikky> maybe instances
18:44 < chronomex> no, instances == separate screen sessions
18:45 < Nikky> loser
18:45 < Nikky> screen is for nerds
18:45 < Nikky> so is dante
18:45 < chronomex> mmhmmmm
18:46 < chronomex> [f@dante01:10:45 0 ~]$ hostname
18:46 < chronomex> dante01.u.washington.edu
18:46 < chronomex> [f@dante01:10:45 0 ~]$ who|grep nikky
18:46 < chronomex> nikky    pts/4        Jan  9 08:09 (c-67-160-64-17.hsd1.wa.comcast.net)
18:46 < Nikky> I hate you
18:46 < chronomex> me too :(
18:47 < Nikky> aww, why are we sad?
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18:48  * chronomex shrugs
18:48 < Nikky> Needa  hug?
18:48 <@E-J> Nikky: our local airport did buy 3rd runway some years ago as well, when we lived near it there was petition against it, but of course it didn't work. I didn't have any problems with plane noises
18:49 <@E-J> our local airport = biggest airport in finland = helsinki-vantaa airport
18:49 < Nikky> Yeah, it's just silly.
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18:49 < Nikky> Did they have a petition after it was opened?
18:49 <@E-J> nah, before it was built
18:50 < Nikky> yeah, that's smart
18:50 < Nikky> these people are trying to get them to change flight patterns... after it was already opened
18:50 < Nikky> They kind of missed the failtrain.
18:50 < chronomex> no, the failtrain got stuck in the flooding
18:50 < chronomex> they managed to chase it down
18:51 < Nikky> haha
18:51 < Nikky> I think that works better :)
18:51 <@E-J> http://kartta.hel.fi/opas/main/?l=3&m=1&o=1&n=91372&e=45870&g=?252,204 i lived here (runkotie 7) and at that other map you can see where that 3rd runway is
18:51 < Nikky> ah, okay
18:51 < Nikky> I have some cousins who live near the airport
18:51 < Nikky> You just get thick windows and insulate...
18:52 < Nikky> It's not that difficult really.
18:52 <@E-J> do you have double or triple windows?
18:52 < Nikky> They had triple, i think
18:53 <@E-J> in france is some building designed by alvar aalto (finnish architect), french can't imagine how someone would have more than 1 glass in window
18:53 < Nikky> *snork*
18:54 < ports-> wtf
18:54 < chronomex> haha
18:56 <@E-J> or so that windows aren't lattice windows
18:57 <@E-J> just one glass
18:59 < Nikky> So are France and Finland rivals?
18:59 < Nikky> You always seem to complain about france :)
19:00 < _Auron_> doesn't everyone?
19:00 < Nikky> good point
19:00 <@E-J> france is one of nations that i don't like so much
19:01 <@E-J> other one is israel
19:01 < i_c-Y> nobody likes france.
19:01 <@E-J> i think ximoon might like it
19:01 <@E-J> and maybe nicolas
19:01 < i_c-Y> they're just lying.
19:02 < Merth> what's wrong with israel?
19:02 < i_c-Y> E-J is anti-semetic. he hates all semites, so the hatred isnt limited to israel.
19:02 <@E-J> Merth: have you watched news recently
19:02 < Merth> no
19:02 < Nikky> haha, Israel.
19:02 <@E-J> i don't hate jews, i hate israel as nation
19:03 < Nikky> They're kind of playing the "holocaust" card too much.
19:03 < Nikky> It's like we get it, we know.
19:03 < Nikky> That doesn't mean you can bomb the shit out of anyone who you don't agree with.
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19:04 < Merth> this is why we need to stop opressing people. so that later, when they're no longer opressed, they can't blame me for shit my grandpa did
19:04 < Nikky> yeah
19:04 < i_c-Y> or you just need to opress them into oblivion
19:04 < i_c-Y> either one works.
19:04 < Merth> ya
19:05 <@E-J> Nikky: or bomb some almost blind and wheelchaired guy with several missiles
19:05 < Nikky> Yep
19:05 <@E-J> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmed_Yassin
19:05 < Nikky> I for one support the rocket attack of blind disabled people.
19:06 <@E-J> yes, that guy was terrorist, but one bullet would have been enough
19:06 <@E-J> not 9 missiles
19:07 < Nikky> Can't be too sure!
19:08 <@E-J> though osama would be dead already if he would have put those planes to israel instead of USA
19:08 < Nikky> True enough.
19:08 < Nikky> They seem like a rather poor choice of contries to piss off.
19:11 < Merth> so do you
19:12  * sir_lewk returns
19:12 < sir_lewk> I ate a calazone
19:12 < sir_lewk> and you did not
19:12  * sir_lewk wins
19:12 < Merth> yes i did
19:13 < Merth> dick
19:14 < sir_lewk> oh
19:14 < sir_lewk> well then it's a tie
19:15 < Merth> i also got a BJ
19:15 < Merth> from Nikky 
19:15 < Merth> so i super-duper win
19:16 < Merth> <3 Blackberry Jam
19:19 < Nikky> Strawberry Jam is far superior
19:20 < Merth> so, do you guys call efnet "F-Net" like just the letter, or "E-F-Net" pronouncing each letter
19:20 < Merth> i just say f-net
19:20 < Nikky> f-net
19:20 < Nikky> efff
19:20 < Nikky> efff-net
19:20 < Nikky> not just f
19:20 < Nikky> but ef
19:20 < Merth> right, as though "ef" were a single syllable
19:20 < Nikky> yeah
19:21 < Merth> yeah that's waht i do
19:21 < Merth> but one time some dude said "E-F" and i was like "wha?"
19:21 < Merth> it was Andy_J's friend
19:21 <@Andy_J> e-f makes more sense tbh
19:21 < Nikky> weird
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19:22 < Nikky> YOu can't trust thems ohians with engrish
19:22 < Merth> why does it make more sense?
19:22 < Merth> Nikky: Indeed
19:22 <@Andy_J> eh.
19:22 <@Andy_J> I dunno
19:22 < Merth> thank god i'm from the coast
19:22 < Nikky> <3
19:23 < Merth> holy fuck it's snowing
19:23 < Nikky> whooo
19:23 < Merth> ni have to drive to athens tomorrow :/
19:23 < _Auron_> I just say eff-net
19:23 < Merth> and don't want to do it in the 6 inches they are predicting
19:24 <@E-J> Merth: to greece?
19:25 < Merth> yes i'm dirivng to greece
19:25 < Merth> through the ocean
19:25 < Nikky> hope you have good tires
19:25 <+kirsk> fuck yeah amphibious car
19:25 < Merth> super-floaty tires
19:25 < Nikky> we saw a submarine car a week ago
19:25 < Merth> i just got winter wiper blades though, so that's good
19:25 < Merth> i saw your mom a week ago
19:26 < Nikky> http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v1970/250/50/27224455/n27224455_35217700_1011.jpg
19:26 < Merth> cute
19:27 <@E-J> nikky with afro?
19:29  * Merth goes home
19:29 < Merth> see you in a minute Merthsoft 
19:29 < Nikky> k
19:30 -!- Spengo [~Spengo@pool-70-104-245-88.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #tcpa
19:37 < Nikky> Hi Spengo :)
19:37 < Spengo> hello lowly peon
19:38 < sir_lewk> http://www.nicolaas.net/dudley/index.php?f=20040712 hahaha
19:41 < Merthsoft> hi
19:42 < Ox40Work> HEY!
19:42 < Ox40Work> Im going to make a service...
19:42 < Ox40Work> I want http://onepass.com but its taken.
19:42 < Ox40Work> Its a login system, website owners can add a login box that authenticates to my website and returns a unique user ID....
19:43 < Ox40Work> Then that website can do stuff in it's own database with that one user id, but the login will be the same across any website that uses it.
19:43 <@E-J> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0M_2Rs7yOHs&feature=related
19:44 <@E-J> Spengo would love that country
19:45 < Spengo> E-J, what is he saying?
19:45 < Spengo> that man does not understand how to use a firearm
19:46 < Ox40Work> Hey, when you search for "Dust patroller air filter" on MSN, what result am I?
19:46 < Nikky> Ox40Work: wow, like OpenID?
19:46 < Spengo> they have bad trigger discipline
19:46 < Nikky> You sure are smart.
19:47 < Ox40Work> Nikky?
19:47 < Ox40Work> *googles*
19:47  * Nikky finds video of Spengo unloading a full auto clip
19:47 <@E-J> Spengo: it's finnish "little weird" travel series
19:47 < Spengo> clip?
19:47 < Spengo> CLIP
19:47 < Spengo> MAGAZINE
19:47 < Nikky> clip
19:47 < Ox40Work> SHIT.
19:47 < Nikky> You're a moron.
19:47 < Ox40Work> hmmm... well, that idea is dead now
19:47 < Spengo> lol
19:47 < Nikky> oh, msn
19:47 < Nikky> I was like, ace is kicking your ass
19:48 < Spengo> here Nikky http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/5735/clipmagazinely1.jpg
19:48 < Nikky> tennis hardware is first
19:48 < Ox40Work> Nikky: lol
19:48 < Ox40Work> Sweet.
19:48 < Ox40Work> Just makin sure its not some regional listing thing.
19:48 < Nikky> Spengo: I don't understad
19:49 < Spengo> it's showing you the difference between clips and magazines
19:49 < Nikky> They look the same.
19:49 < Ox40Work> magazine = enclosed
19:49 < Ox40Work> clip = "clips the bullets together"
19:50 < Nikky> They look the same.
19:50 < Nikky> AKA: Both should be banned.
19:50 < Spengo> lol
19:50 < Ox40Work> lame
19:51 <@E-J> Spengo: show is now in finland and that guy with more hair eats rat flesh now
19:51 < Nikky> http://post.thestranger.com/images/blogimages/2009/01/09/1231527840_article-1109082-02fd57b3000005dc-983_468x310_popup.jpg
19:51 < Spengo> haha what
19:51 < Nikky> It has bottles of his own blood on board
19:51 < Nikky> how pimp is that
19:52 < Spengo> lol Nikky 
19:52 < Nikky> They should remove the shotguns though
19:52 < Nikky> Guns are bad
19:52 < Spengo> that car would make me paranoid that something is actually going to happen if I rode in it
19:52 < Spengo> I mean really, that car is just asking for it
19:52 < Nikky> It is
19:52 < Nikky> That's like a big message to the terrorists
19:52 < Nikky> "bring it on"
19:53 <@E-J> Spengo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyZFwAoUW8g this has subtitles
19:53 < Nikky> We need to give the UN some real power.
19:53 < Nikky> "The UN's first truce call is dismissed by both sides in the Gaza fighting, with Israel's PM calling it unworkable."
19:53 < Merthsoft> max speed is only 60
19:53 < Nikky> Just give them control of like half of the US military or something.
19:54 <@E-J> 1 minute and they are planning to eat guinea pig
19:54 < Nikky> I'm sure it's a lot higher...
19:54 < Spengo> it's too long, I'll bookmark it and watch it later
19:54 < Nikky> Probably 70, 75
19:54 < ports-> haha
19:54 < Nikky> But this is the best part... SUVs full of heavily armed badasses ride with the convoy
19:55 < Nikky> their only job is to engage the baddies until the pres gets away
19:55 < ports-> eh
19:55 < Nikky> I forget the term they used, but "superior and overwhelming fire"
19:55 < ports-> suppressing
19:55 < ports-> its suppressing fire
19:55 < Nikky> no, they didn't use suppressing
19:55 < Nikky> I'm sure of that
19:56 < Nikky> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7791989.stm awwww
19:56 < Spengo> superior and overwhelming, eh?
19:56 < Nikky> guys
19:56 < Spengo> guess it's okay for the government to have those guns but not civilians
19:56 < Spengo> obviously they are more trustworthy
19:56 < Nikky> They are.
19:56 < Nikky> Totally.
19:57 < Nikky> cute venomous mammal
19:57 < Nikky> much better than guns
19:57 < Spengo> Did you know there is a stronger argument to disarm police than get rid of concealed carry?
19:58 < sir_lewk> why the hell should I care if a little venomous vermin goes extinct?
19:58 < Nikky> We should disarm police, yes
19:58 < Nikky> sir_lewk: diaf earth hater
19:58 < Spengo> CHL holders actually commit much less crime and rarely have negligent discharges or draw when they aren't supposed to
19:58 < Nikky> we should get rid of CHL too
19:59 < Nikky> Just get rid of handguns!
19:59 < Nikky> how is that hard to get?
19:59 < Nikky> sheesh
19:59 < Nikky> 2nd amendment is for defense of the nation!
19:59 < Nikky> You can own your own guns, sure!
19:59 < Nikky> But sidearms are stupid if you're defending anything
19:59 < Nikky> it's retarded
19:59 < sir_lewk> I wouldn't necessarily mind disarming police, even though I think it'd be stupid
19:59 < sir_lewk> HOWEVER
20:00 < Spengo> sidearms are purely defensive what the heck are you talkin about Nikky 
20:00 < sir_lewk> the bill of rights clearly gives individual citizens the right to own firearms
20:00 < Nikky> Spengo: they're defensive if, uh, your enemy has one too
20:00 < Nikky> if your enemy is like.. smart, they'd have a rifle
20:00 < Nikky> duh
20:00 < Nikky> sir_lewk: Well, it clearly does to rifles.
20:01 < Nikky> sidearms can be another issue
20:01 < Spengo> I know some people that keep a rifle or shotgun in their trunk
20:01 < sir_lewk> the bill of rights isn't meant to protect the "rights of hunters", it's intention is to protect the right for people to have guns to kill PEOPLE with
20:01 < Nikky> more power to them Spengo 
20:01 < Spengo> but it would be a little annoying to lug it around everywhere
20:01 < Nikky> too bad
20:01 < Spengo> and people would give you funny looks
20:02 < sir_lewk> that may be a distasteful concept but the second amendment is meant to assure that citizens have a way of killing other people
20:02 < Spengo> though I guess you could carry it in a discreet rifle bag
20:02 < sir_lewk> namely a corrupt government
20:02 < Nikky> or just not carry guns
20:02 < Nikky> what is this
20:02 < Nikky> the wild wild west?
20:02 < Nikky> grow up and be civilized here
20:02 < Nikky> *gone*
20:02 < Spengo> more like the mild mild west, am I right?
20:02 < sir_lewk> doesn't matter, that's what the amendment is for
20:02 < sir_lewk> according to the supreme court
20:02 < Spengo> much less violence in the wild west than back east, even though they were practically living in anarchy
20:02 < Merthsoft> whats CHL
20:02 < Spengo> concealed handgun license
20:03 < _Auron_> how about mandate how people raise their children
20:03 < _Auron_> since 70% of americans can't seem to do that
20:03 < Spengo> that would be excellent
20:03 <@E-J> champions hockey league
20:03 < Damakaru> _Auron_++
20:03 < Spengo> probably more than 70% :P
20:04 < Spengo> so, anyone made anything cool for calculators recently?
20:04 < sir_lewk> _Auron_: I prefer the "how about the government stay the fuck out of peoples lives" idea
20:04 < Spengo> what's brandonw up to these days
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20:04 < sir_lewk> calc stuff no doubt
20:05 < Damakaru> Think he's working on something involving the .
20:05 < _Auron_> you need a license for driving
20:05 < Damakaru> ...USB on the TI-84+.
20:05 <@E-J> _Auron_: nope, you need a car
20:05  * incubus hits people
20:05 < sir_lewk> I don't mind requireing licenses for stuff, so long as the licenses are reasonable
20:05 < _Auron_> but you don't need anything to have the right to raise a kid
20:05 < _Auron_> I think there should be parenting licenses
20:06 < sir_lewk> if a drivers license cost 50K, then I'd have an issue with that
20:06 < _Auron_> how you raise your child is more important than being able to drive, in terms of the people that run this country
20:06 < Spengo> maybe in a free-market society people would be forced to learn how to raise their kids
20:06 < incubus> _Auron_, did you find a place to live?
20:06 < _Auron_> not yet
20:06 < _Auron_> still trying to find a job too
20:06 < incubus> :o
20:06 < Spengo> because there would be no government to lean on
20:06 < _Auron_> applied to some places earlier
20:06 < sir_lewk> _Auron_: what's next then?  requireing multiple licenses for multiple kids? requiring a license to fuck without a condom?  forcing women to have abortions or give their kids up for adoption?
20:07 < incubus> Incentives?
20:07 < Damakaru> Sounds Microsoft-ish to me.
20:07 < sir_lewk> a parenting license seems like a damn bad precedent to me
20:07 < sir_lewk> hell, the concept of legally recognized marraiges makes me uneasy
20:07 < Spengo> how about we get rid of federal government altogether
20:07 < incubus> a License is riddiculous
20:07 < _Auron_> sir_lewk: then how do you suggest we fix how parents raise their kids?
20:07 < Spengo> lol
20:07 < incubus> a Certification sounds reasonable
20:07 < Spengo> brb
20:08 < sir_lewk> if parents are unfit, there are already laws in place to remove the children from their care
20:08 < _Auron_> almost every criminal is a result of bad parenting
20:08 < sir_lewk> if those laws are broken, they can be fixed
20:08 < incubus> _Auron_, or lack of
20:08 < _Auron_> I'm not talking about whether or not the kid has food to eat and goes to school
20:09 < _Auron_> I'm talking about how the fucking child is raised in a home and is treated as a human being
20:09 < sir_lewk> yeah, but how the hell do you define that?
20:09 < sir_lewk> what happens when some nut like bush gets elected and decides parents need to make their kids religous?
20:09 < incubus> lol
20:10 < sir_lewk> "raised well" is a hell of a subjective thing
20:10 < _Auron_> that'd break 1st amendment
20:10 < sir_lewk> and there are *a lot* of nuts out there
20:10 < Damakaru> Do you suppose the government just puts cameras in everyone's homes to make sure the parents are properly taking care of their children?
20:10 < sir_lewk> no kidding.  do you think amendment's haven't been broken before?
20:10 < sir_lewk> exactly
20:10 < Damakaru> * would just
20:10 < sir_lewk> you are talking about orwellian style legislation
20:11 < _Auron_> Damakaru: no, but I think they should have mandatory classes, checkups, etc
20:11 < sir_lewk> the kind of thing I'd expect from a raving rightwing conservative nut really
20:11 < _Auron_> a parent does not get checked by anyone, ever, unless someone rats them out and says something is wrong
20:11 < sir_lewk> so be a good citizen and rat people out
20:12 < incubus> I think YOU guys are nuts
20:12 < Merthsoft> my brother came up with a utopia for a book he wrote in which the government controlled food, and in all the food was contraceptives. and if you wanted kids you had to go through a very long course about raising children and is monitored in their homes for a year, then the contraceptives are removed from their food
20:12 < incubus> with all this old school big brother speculation and QQness
20:12 < sir_lewk> you don't want the government throwing parents in jail because they let their kids stay up and watch violent TV
20:12 < _Auron_> violent TV has nothing to do with it
20:12 < _Auron_> that's just an excuse
20:12 < incubus> I think true sociopathic behavior comes from lack of relationships
20:12 < incubus> An animal does not think about other animals to survive
20:13 < sir_lewk> you are talking about "good parenting".  how do you define that in non-opinionated terms?
20:13 < _Auron_> Merthsoft: that's basically what I'm trying to say
20:13 < Damakaru> Ditto with the whole "six-year-old-blames-GTK" issue.
20:13 < incubus> sir_lewk, Time and Love
20:13 < Merthsoft> i told him it was ridiculous because we have a right to children and the government can't take that away
20:13 < _Auron_> time, love, attention, and respect
20:13 < sir_lewk> yeah, define any of that
20:14 < incubus> time is pretty easy
20:14 < sir_lewk> in robust legal terms
20:14 < sir_lewk> no it's not
20:14 < incubus> be with your kids physically x hours
20:14 < incubus> that's easy
20:14 < sir_lewk> 50% of your time? 70%? who decides?
20:14 < incubus> who said %
20:14 < sir_lewk> fine
20:14 < _Auron_> % is relative, specific hours is constant
20:14 < sir_lewk> 30 hours a week, 20 hours a week
20:15 < sir_lewk> same question, who decides?
20:15 < incubus> no one, which is why this conversation is dumb
20:15 < sir_lewk> who should decide how YOU raise YOUR kid
20:15 < sir_lewk> well then how do you say that you are legally required to spend time with your kids?
20:15 < incubus> I don't, you asked how
20:16 < incubus> and all I said is, it's easy to define x hours, but it's not easy to make that a law, it's absurd
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20:16 < sir_lewk> no, _Auron_ suggested it, and you said it was easy to define
20:16 < incubus> it is
20:16 < incubus> 10 hours
20:16 < incubus> that's not hard to define
20:16 < sir_lewk> that's not an objective law free of your opinions
20:17 < incubus> no law is free of an opinion
20:17 < incubus> that's why we vote
20:17 < sir_lewk> "< sir_lewk> you are talking about "good parenting".  how do you define that in non-opinionated terms?"
20:17 < _Auron_> considering the state of the country you think it's okay for people to raise their kids by not doing anything other than the bare minimum of feeding them, giving them clothes, and making them go to school?
20:17 < _Auron_> you think that's okay?
20:17 < sir_lewk> how do you make a law that defines what a good parent has to be without letting the nutjobs fuck with my life?
20:18 < incubus> Even if you are a great parent, drugs will still ruin shit
20:18 < sir_lewk> _Auron_: of course it's not alright, but I'm not about to wield the full power of the judicial system on them to try to make them conform to my system of beliefs
20:19 < _Auron_> incubus: how and why?
20:19 < _Auron_> where are drugs in the equation?
20:19 < sir_lewk> uuuhhhmmm
20:19 < _Auron_> the parents doing drugs? the kids doing drugs?
20:19 < sir_lewk> drugs have been in the equation for hundreds of years, unless you somehow managed to eliminate them while I was away
20:19 < _Auron_> do you know why people do drugs? because they feel lacking in some way
20:20 < sir_lewk> parenting isn't the only reason kids fuck up, and it isn't the only reason people do drugs
20:20 < Damakaru> Yes, what about the "environmental influences?"
20:21 < sir_lewk> trying to simplify the causes of complex behaviour like drug abuse down to a single leading cause is doomed to fail
20:21 < Ox40Work> sir_lewk: very well put
20:21 < sir_lewk> what about all the times kids see "cool people on tv doing drugs"?
20:21 < incubus> btw I'd say drugs have been in the equation for thousands of years
20:21 < Ox40Work> Drugs++
20:21 < sir_lewk> are we going to start censoring television too?
20:21 < _Auron_> okay
20:21 < _Auron_> let's stop
20:21 < _Auron_> and let me ask this
20:21 < Damakaru> We're already doing that, aren't we?
20:21 < sir_lewk> incubus: true.  especially when you consider alcohol
20:22 < incubus> I was JUST about to talk about alcohol
20:22 < _Auron_> is parenting a severe problem in the U.S. or not
20:22 < incubus> Yes
20:22 < Damakaru> Yes.
20:22 < Ox40Work> No.
20:22 < _Auron_> do you think something should be done about it?
20:22 < incubus> No.
20:22 < Ox40Work> No.
20:22 < incubus> lol
20:22 < Ox40Work> Parenting is not a huge problem....
20:22 < Ox40Work> Its Schooling in general.
20:22 < Ox40Work> Not _just_ parenting.
20:22 < incubus> Public schools are a nightmare, I have to admit
20:22 < Ox40Work> Great parents are nothing without good schooling.
20:23 < sir_lewk> society in general is fucked up.  public education, parenting, the media
20:23 < _Auron_> I beg to differ
20:23 < incubus> Going to public schools is worse than living in the streets, or about as bad
20:23 < Ox40Work> And, Public Schools at the moment, can destroy all leway that good parenting gets.
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20:23 < Damakaru> incubus / Ox40Work:  Agreed.
20:23  * Ox40Work sets mode #tcpa +o efneTI80
20:23 < sir_lewk> some stuff we just can't force to change without seriously infringing on our freedoms.  something that should not be up to compromise
20:23 < Ox40Work> Damakaru: thanks :)
20:23 < incubus> I went to an all white rich high school, and I saw things there that make me shudder to this day
20:24 < Ox40Work> The problem here is that things have been changed, and cannot be changed _BACK_ without 'infringing on freedoms'
20:24 < incubus> I don't even want to think about lower income schools
20:24 < Ox40Work> incubus: ie?
20:24 < Ox40Work> ie = example, not internet explorer ;)
20:24 < _Auron_> the bad kids in public schools are bad because of their parents
20:24 < Ox40Work> _Auron_: well, its genetics too...
20:24 < Ox40Work> you can't just say it's the parents.
20:24 < incubus> Ox40Work, I saw fights daily, innocent kids being put up to teasing that was far beyond anything childish
20:25 < sir_lewk> I saw lots of IE in public school
20:25 < sir_lewk> *horrifying* D:
20:25 < Ox40Work> sir_lewk: that's all I saw :)
20:25 < Ox40Work> :P
20:25 < Ox40Work> incubus: really?
20:25 < Ox40Work> I never saw fights...
20:25 < Ox40Work> _ever_
20:25 < Ox40Work> In public or private school.
20:25 < incubus> I saw a girl threaten to blow a girls head off with a colt 45 that was later found in her truck
20:25 < sir_lewk> we tried to get them to install firefox but they won't because of tabs
20:25 < _Auron_> incubus: Yeah, and the people that get in fights either don't live with their parents, or have really fucked up parents that don't deserve to have a cihld
20:25 < Ox40Work> Middle school, Highschool...
20:25 < incubus> _Auron_, exactly
20:25 < sir_lewk> apparently my old school is avoiding IE7 now for the same reason
20:25 < incubus> and you are EDUCATED with them
20:25 < incubus> you're ALL in the same damn boat
20:25 < i_c-Y> Ox40Work: hows your pc
20:25 < Damakaru> My parents tried and tried and tried with me, and I still didn't come out the perfect little angel they wanted me too...
20:25 < Ox40Work> i_c-Y: well, MythDora wouldnt install..
20:26 < Ox40Work> "Kernel Panic"
20:26 < Ox40Work> On the network install CD.
20:26 < incubus> Damakaru, heh you hax0red
20:26 < Ox40Work> Damakaru: ditto.
20:26 < Merthsoft> i got in a fight once
20:26 < _Auron_> what exactly did they try?
20:26 < Merthsoft> some kid wouldn't stop picking on me
20:26 < Ox40Work> I would all my parents great at parenting...
20:26 < Ox40Work> But, I am still fucked up.
20:26 < Ox40Work> :)
20:26 < Merthsoft> so i threw him against a wall and lifted him up by his throat and told him to shut the fuck up or i'd make him wish he were never born
20:27 < Merthsoft> he left me alone after that
20:27 < Ox40Work> :D
20:27 < i_c-Y> Ox40Work: so you should have installed vista!
20:27 < Ox40Work> Merth++;
20:27 < Ox40Work> i_c-Y: its downloading ;)
20:27 < Ox40Work> er...
20:27 < Ox40Work> "Coming in the Mail"
20:27 < sir_lewk> my 17 year old brother won't watch a movie if a tit is shown,  would never think of touching alcohol or smoking regardless of his age, and only holds hands with his girlfriend
20:27 < sir_lewk> I'm... well I'm me
20:27 < sir_lewk> same damn parents
20:27 < Ox40Work> sir_lewk: Well, thats overboard.
20:27 < Ox40Work> Thats not good...
20:27 < i_c-Y> well, you can't get a girlfriend so the last one is moot
20:27 < sir_lewk> yeah I know
20:27 < i_c-Y> which promotes the frst few.
20:27 < Ox40Work> I think kids should be allowed to drink alcohol...
20:27 < incubus> sir_lewk, you attend church weekly and visit the elderly...
20:28 < Ox40Work> GREAT way to teach them never to do it again ;)
20:28 < sir_lewk> incubus: haha, yeah.  you pegged me :)
20:28 < Damakaru> At one point, I remember I got whipped every day because I was screaming expletives at the top of my lungs in class and that lasted for about a week.
20:28 < incubus> I still don't know why alcohol is such a problem in the states
20:28 < sir_lewk> it's pretty lame
20:28 < i_c-Y> incubus: where are you
20:28 < incubus> Texas
20:28 < incubus> O_O
20:29 < sir_lewk> you have highschool kids getting alcohol poisoning because they are trying to be rebelious
20:29 < i_c-Y> you see
20:29 < i_c-Y> if i were the fuhrer of the US
20:29 < Ox40Work> sir_lewk: Stop being to logical!
20:29 < incubus> We only had one drug overdose in my school
20:29 < sir_lewk> don't understand that a pint of beer and a pint of wine are two different animals
20:29 < i_c-Y> we wouldnt have these problems
20:29 < Ox40Work> It doesnt fit the democratic way!
20:29 < sir_lewk> haha, true that
20:29 < _Auron_> i_c-Y: no, we'd all be slaves
20:29 < Ox40Work> Alcohol should be banned!
20:29 < Ox40Work> Because people can't deal with it themselves!
20:29 < Damakaru> Ox40Work:  We tried that already.
20:30 < Ox40Work> Its the government's position to take care of us.
20:30 < sir_lewk> yeah, the prohibition was working great.  I don't know why we stopped.
20:30 < Ox40Work> To think for us!
20:30 < i_c-Y> incubus: in one of my math classes , someone came in drunk, and popped some pain pill and had to get taken to the hospital
20:30 < i_c-Y> was pretty entertaining cause the teacher was like 22 or something
20:30 < i_c-Y> and she was freaking out
20:30 < Ox40Work> :P
20:30 < sir_lewk> lol
20:30 < i_c-Y> in hindsight, she was pretty cute though.
20:30 < Ox40Work> :P
20:30 < Damakaru> Won't really matter how much the government tries or not, because those who don't really give a flying crap are going to do whatever anyway...
20:31 < Ox40Work> Damakaru: yep
20:31 < Ox40Work> exactly
20:31 < Ox40Work> Pot is illegal.
20:31 <@E-J> sir_lewk: finnish teens can legally drink alcohol in age of 18 (most start in age of 15 or less), still in most tests finnish kids are better than american
20:31 <@E-J> what's wrong with americans?-)
20:31 < Ox40Work> But, I have some in my closet right now.
20:31 < Ox40Work> So, whats the point of it being illegal?
20:32 < Spengo> k back
20:32 < _Auron_> it's a plant that naturally exists
20:32 < _Auron_> it's like making a rose illegal
20:32 < incubus> E-J, Finland has 6 million people
20:32 < Spengo> sir_lewk, I think _Auron_ was jokin about the parenting thing, no need to take it so seriously lol
20:32 < incubus> stop the comparisons
20:32 <@E-J> incubus: 5.3 :)
20:32 < sir_lewk> E-J: In my humble opinion, american kids are much worse with alcohol because of the culture surounding it in america
20:32 < _Auron_> Spengo: No, I really wasn't.
20:33 < Spengo> oh
20:33 < Spengo> well go ahead and argue then I guess
20:33 < Spengo> lol
20:33 < sir_lewk> there was a quote I heard awhile ago, I forget exactly how it went
20:33 -!- rivereye [~Rivereye@c-24-11-113-194.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #tcpa
20:33 <@efneTI92> [rivereye] Is it time to go fishing?
20:33 < _Auron_> I won't win any arguement because conversative minds don't ever change
20:33 < _Auron_> conservative*
20:33 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v rivereye] by efneTI85
20:33 < sir_lewk> it pretty much completely reversed most of my political believes
20:34 < Spengo> _Auron_, you seriously think parenting licenses would be a good idea? :o
20:34 < Merthsoft> ad hominem is not a valid argument
20:34 < _Auron_> yes
20:34 < Spengo> o
20:34 < sir_lewk> "The worst things society does are always done with the best of intentions" or something like that
20:34 < Spengo> I think the complete dismantling of the federal government would be a good idea
20:34 < _Auron_> of course if I suggest an idea, I'm expected to explain every single fucking detail possible
20:34 < Spengo> it's bloated, slow, expensive, and unnecessary
20:34 < _Auron_> which I can't and won't do
20:34 < Ox40Work> Spengo: YES
20:35 < sir_lewk> Spengo: agreed.  I'm becoming more and more convinced anarcists are on to something
20:35 < Spengo> and the US is too big a country for everyone's ideals to be properly represented
20:35 < Damakaru> Spengo:  You make it sound like a peice of software.
20:35 < Spengo> sir_lewk, look up free-market anarchy
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20:35 < Spengo> Damakaru, it is o_o
20:35 < Ox40Work> :P
20:35 < Spengo> it's like... some old piece of C code that someone wrote many years ago and people keep adding and adding to and now it's a horrid mess that no one can figure out
20:35 < sir_lewk> Spengo: I don't actually advocate anarchy, but rather like the idea of ripping down the system so a new one can be built up
20:36 < Spengo> why not?
20:36 < sir_lewk> it's like a forest that grew too old. the bigger trees blocked out the light for the little stuff
20:36 < sir_lewk> it needs a forrest fire to reset itself
20:37 < Ox40Work> Spengo: very true
20:37 < Ox40Work> We need to rewrite it in PHP!
20:37 < karn`> is there any website where people post scripts they made for TI calcs?
20:37 < Ox40Work> <duck and cover>
20:37 < sir_lewk> well, I think anarchy is nothing more than a void of power, something that's an unnatural state in human society
20:37 < Ox40Work> karn`: jup
20:37 < karn`> =o
20:37 < Ox40Work> ticalc.org, I think (among others)
20:37 < sir_lewk> *someone* is going to seize power.  anarchy can't last
20:37 < Ox40Work> karn`: I dont do a ton of calc stuff, im mostly here to make my day go by faster :)
20:37 < sir_lewk> karn`: ticalc.org is the best
20:37 < Damakaru> Ox40Work:  Need more Perl.
20:37 < Ox40Work> tcpa.calcg.org for information
20:38 < Damakaru> * +s
20:38 < sir_lewk> karn`: you should submit stuff to ticalc.org that you finish so other people can use it too :)
20:38 < karn`> heh, i wonder if there are tons of useless ones taht are lame yet funny
20:38 < sir_lewk> if you're programming anyways
20:38 < Ox40Work> karn`: im sure there are
20:38 < Ox40Work> :)
20:38 < sir_lewk> oh yeah :)
20:38 < Ox40Work> Spengo: you are like... the hub of #tcpa
20:38 < Ox40Work> http://www.nykida.net/piespy/tcpa/tcpa-current.png
20:38 < Spengo> the hub? :o
20:39 < Spengo> awesome
20:39 < Ox40Work> er, sir_lewk is slightly more so
20:39 < sir_lewk> nice, I forgot about that
20:39 < Ox40Work> Nikky
20:39 < Spengo> Ox40Work, it's because I'm so cute! :3
20:39 < Spengo> everyone loves me
20:39 < Ox40Work> sure
20:39 < Ox40Work> Hey _Auron_
20:39 < Ox40Work> Spengo
20:39 < Ox40Work> Hows it going
20:39 < Ox40Work> <builds up hub-ness>
20:39 < Spengo> lol
20:39 < Ox40Work> MindVirus
20:39 < Ox40Work> HAI
20:39 < Ox40Work> ports-
20:39 -!- `` [~Karn@24-180-76-34.static.bycy.mi.charter.com] has joined #tcpa
20:40 < Ox40Work> Hey sir_lewk, hows it going?
20:40 -!- `` is now known as karn``
20:40 < sir_lewk> Ox40Work: cheater :P
20:40 < ports-> what nigga
20:40 < Spengo> hey incubus, hey kirsk, hey zeropod 
20:40 < Ox40Work> Merthsoft :)
20:40 < Spengo> lol :P
20:40 < ports-> you bitches highlighted me
20:40 < sir_lewk> hey Spengo 
20:40 < Ox40Work> kirsk, zeropod
20:40 < Ox40Work> ports-!!!
20:40 < sir_lewk> sup ports- biatch!?!
20:40 < Ox40Work> chronomex Merth
20:40 < ports-> sir_lewk:  nigga please
20:40 < Merthsoft> what
20:40 < Ox40Work> helz yeah
20:40 < ports-> Merthsoft: 
20:40 < Ox40Work> hey Merthsoft.
20:40 < sir_lewk> ports-: wazzup yo
20:40 < Ox40Work> :)
20:40 < Merthsoft> one more time assholes
20:40 < ports-> youre both tools
20:40 < sir_lewk> Ox40Work: how's it hangin?
20:41 < sir_lewk> Merthsoft: who, me?
20:41  * sir_lewk ducks
20:41 < Merthsoft> !k sir_lewk 
20:41 -!- sir_lewk was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [Merthsoft]
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20:41 < Ox40Work> sir_lewk: hangin great :)
20:41 < sir_lewk> not fast enough apparently D:
20:41 < Spengo> press B to dodge
20:41 < sir_lewk> hey Merthsoft, think fast
20:41 < sir_lewk> !k Merthsoft 
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20:42 < Damakaru> It's about to "get crunk up in the bitch," because "hoes" keep "trippin'."
20:42 < ports-> stop it whores
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20:42 < Merthsoft> !k sir_lewk 
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20:42 < Merthsoft> !k sir_lewk 
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20:42 < Merthsoft> !k sir_lewk 
20:42 -!- sir_lewk was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [Merthsoft]
20:42 < Ox40Work> ports-: why does your nick have a -?
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20:42 < Merthsoft> !k sir_lewk 
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20:42 < Spengo> ok ok ok
20:42 < Ox40Work> !k sir_lewk: ABUSE. Seriously, stop.
20:42 < Merthsoft> !k sir_lewk la=st time
20:42 -!- sir_lewk was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [Merthsoft: la=st time]
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20:42 < Ox40Work> darn it :P
20:42 -!- mode/#tcpa [+b *!*@tux64-01.cs.drexel.edu] by SnowCrash
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20:42 < Ox40Work> ^_^
20:42 < Merthsoft> ahahahahaha
20:42 < Damakaru> See, was I right, or was I right?
20:42 < Ox40Work> You were right :)
20:42 < Ox40Work> Damakaru.
20:43 < i_c-Y> !k Merthsoft one kick was sufficient.
20:43 -!- Merthsoft was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [i_c-Y: one kick was sufficient.]
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20:44 < Merthsoft> !k Merthsoft don't be a dick
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20:45 < Merthsoft> sorry sir_lewk :(
20:45  * sir_lewk rages so hard
20:45 < Ox40Work> welcome back :)
20:45 < sir_lewk> :D
20:45 < sir_lewk> I totally forgot about join-flooding :D
20:45  * Merthsoft cries and hugs sir_lewk 
20:46 < Ox40Work> intervention :)
20:46 < sir_lewk> tis ok, I still wuv you :)
20:46 < Damakaru> ...And that is why Auto-Rejoin is bad.
20:46 < Merthsoft> yay
20:46 < Merthsoft> !q
20:46 <@efneTI86> 1406: <Netham45> it's your job as a citizen to make up your own damn mind about things [Added: chronomex at 2008/10/25 23:42]
20:46 < sir_lewk> I was manuelly rejoining ;)
20:46 <+kirsk> oxxxx
20:47 < Merthsoft> !q
20:47 <@efneTI86> 982: <patz2009> my friend is having problems creating a zip on os x -_- | <kyevan> patz2009: Your friend is an idiot, I take it? [Added: Nikky at 2007/08/18 21:42]
20:47 < sir_lewk> mm, I like that Netham45 quote
20:47 < sir_lewk> !q
20:48 <@efneTI86> 1091: <BrandonW> The C++ has a stack! [Added: DSP_Lord at 2007/10/24 21:33]
20:48 < sir_lewk> O.o
20:48 < Damakaru> I need to buy some USB-powered laptop speakers.
20:49 < i_c-Y> Damakaru: why not speakers that dont need an external power supply?
20:49 < Merthsoft> dear StumbleUpon, stop stumbling me upon pdf files
20:49 < Merthsoft> that's stupid to the max
20:49 < sir_lewk> oh damn yeah
20:49 < sir_lewk> that is a PITA, it's a bitch to thumbup or thumbdown them when firefox launches them with some other app
20:50 < Damakaru> i_c-Y:  I can't turn ALSA up any more.  :P
20:50 < sir_lewk> they just kind of appear
20:50 < Ox40Work> kirsk!!!!
20:50 < sir_lewk> where?
20:50 < Damakaru> I could use ALSA's LADSPA software equalizer, but it eats a lot of CPU.
20:51 < sir_lewk> I'm going to buy some nice-ish headphones soon, any suggestions?
20:51 < sir_lewk> I'm thinking under the $100 range
20:51 <@E-J> i would use only LÄMSÄ software
20:52 < Ox40Work> sir_lewk: I got some for $20
20:52 < Ox40Work> Panasonic
20:52 < Ox40Work> Noise-Canceling
20:52 < sir_lewk> oh, nice
20:53 < sir_lewk> do they have a nice dynamic range or whatever
20:53 < sir_lewk> ? (not sure if that's the right term)
20:53 < sir_lewk> bass and treble I guess
20:53 < _Auron_> what should I eat
20:53 < sir_lewk> my old headphones died and my ipod ones suck total ass >.>
20:53 < ports-> penis
20:54 < sir_lewk> or that, sure
20:54 < _Auron_> eat as in food
20:54 < sir_lewk> hamburger
20:54 < _Auron_> I don't like beef
20:54 < sir_lewk> jerky, a bag of jerky
20:54 < _Auron_> ...... ^
20:55 < sir_lewk> I think that comes in other meat varieties
20:55 < _Auron_> not that I know of
20:55 < sir_lewk> jerky isn't really beef anymore, just jerky.  unless there are religious or dietary considerations involved
20:55 <+kirsk> sir_lewk: Sony MDR700
20:55 < _Auron_> I literally do not like the taste of it though
20:55 < sir_lewk> but anyways, how about spagetti, easy to cook
20:56 < _Auron_> has more flavor than beef but too much salt
20:56 < sir_lewk> kirsk: cool, thanks
20:56 < sir_lewk> make yourself a nice spagetti dinner.  spagetti, sauce, maybe sausage, and a nice cold beer
20:56 < sir_lewk> dimmed lights, tv
20:57 < _Auron_> erm, I'd have to get all the ingredients, and I have to move soon
20:57 < sir_lewk> damn nice night
20:57 < sir_lewk> oh :S
20:57 < _Auron_> can't dim lights, don't watch tv, can't get beer (don't like beer either)
20:57 < sir_lewk> oh well
20:57 < _Auron_> :P
20:57 < sir_lewk> difficult :P
20:57 < _Auron_> no u
20:57 < _Auron_> well eh.. bbiab
20:59 < Damakaru> *Stabs MPlayer.*
20:59 < i_c-Y> sir_lewk: look on headfi.org
21:00 < i_c-Y> head-fi.org
21:00 < i_c-Y> best place to get headphone information
21:00 < i_c-Y> they have a good listing based on prices you want to pay too
21:00 < sir_lewk> nice, thanks
21:00 < i_c-Y> and never buy noise canceling.
21:00 < sir_lewk> oh?
21:00 < i_c-Y> ruins everything.
21:00 < sir_lewk> bad sound quality?
21:01 < i_c-Y> what noise canceling does is it takes a headphone that (maybe) has good sound quality
21:01 < i_c-Y> then rapes your ear
21:01 < i_c-Y> cause it sucks.
21:01 < sir_lewk> oh my
21:01 < i_c-Y> rape in a bad way
21:01 < _Auron_> not really
21:01 < _Auron_> noise canceling tends to block out like 90% of noise without even getting any audio
21:02 < _Auron_> just by being in your ear
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21:02 < _Auron_> and high-end noise canceling does anti-soundwave stuff with incoming noise, so it further cancels
21:02 < i_c-Y> http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f4/headphone-buyers-guide-271258/
21:02 < i_c-Y> noise canceling isnt physical.
21:03 < i_c-Y> physical in the sense that the noise canceling isnt by the arrangement of the headphones.
21:03 < sir_lewk> I thought it generated waveforms that canceled out the others
21:03 < _Auron_> sir_lewk: the good ones do
21:03 < _Auron_> the fake ones just have a design that tries to physically block outside sound
21:04 < sir_lewk> gotcha
21:04 < i_c-Y> thats not noise canceling necessarily, _Auron_ 
21:04 < _Auron_> that's why I said fake ones
21:04 < i_c-Y> just because you have closed headphones doesnt mean that they're "noise canceling"
21:04 < _Auron_> they're mislableed
21:04 < i_c-Y> and they arent marketed as such.
21:04 < _Auron_> uh, some are called that when they're not actually noise canceling
21:05 < sir_lewk> I thought about bose but they are hella expensive
21:05 < i_c-Y> screw bose
21:05 < i_c-Y> go look at headfi.
21:05 < i_c-Y> off with you, get reading.
21:05 < sir_lewk> I reading, I reading
21:06 < _Auron_> anyhow bbiab
21:06 < sir_lewk> later dude
21:07 < sir_lewk> "Audio Technica a500/700" these seem nice
21:07 < i_c-Y> you also want to try the headphones before you buy them if you can
21:08 < sir_lewk> yeah
21:08 < sir_lewk> not sure where I'd do that around here though
21:08 < i_c-Y> you're in philly theres bound to be some shop
21:08 < i_c-Y> im a sennheiser fan myself.
21:08 < sir_lewk> yeah, I'm in the DC/Metro area ATM though
21:08 < sir_lewk> for 2 more months :(
21:09 < sir_lewk> it's like a 5 hour drive to go 5 miles, fucking traffic
21:09 < Damakaru> I ought to get me so nice noise-cancelling headphones for when I want my music loud, but during a time I can't have my four subwoofers blaring in the dorms.
21:12 < sir_lewk> yeah, I'm looking for something at school
21:12 < i_c-Y> Damakaru: try some closed headphones
21:12 < i_c-Y> instead of noise canceling
21:13 < i_c-Y> sennheiser hd201/202 are like 20 bucks and pretty good at blocking out external noise
21:13 < i_c-Y> easy to take to school too
21:13 <@Andy_J> !qfind teacher
21:13 <@efneTI86> 912:sjrberg: <_3fg> anyone with cable turn on cartoon network and watch shin chan now | <BrandonW> I'm on it, but I have no clue what it is. | <_3fg> it'll be on in a sec | <_3fg> it's a weird cartoon | <_3fg> one of my old teachers does a voice on it | <BrandonW> I'm already scared.
21:13 <@efneTI86> 480:sjrberg: <sabel4> History teacher of mine was talking about the "Southern Tenant Farmers Union". So when everybody was talking before class and he wrote STFU on the board, he didn't get why everyone started laughing.
21:13 <@efneTI86> 174:Nikky_S: <PatrickD> you could right your z80 disassembler in 68k asm ! <al_busy> somewhere, an english teacher is crying
21:13 <@efneTI86> (Plus 2 more matches: http://tcpa.aardy.net/quotes/?filter=teacher&channel=tcpa&search=search)
21:13 <@Andy_J> meh
21:14 <@E-J> i wouldn't use headphones that block all the external noise
21:14 < sir_lewk> lol at 174
21:15 <@Andy_J> !qsay 1012
21:15 <@efneTI86> 1012: * Dan_E is a high school math teacher | <Dan_E> One of the other math teachers asked me what my high score was in blockdude | <Dan_E> And I got to be like, "Open up Puzzle Pack ... See that part where it says "Dan Englender" on the title screen?  THat's my high score" [Added Andy_J at 2007/08/27 20:43]
21:15 < i_c-Y> IEM's also block a lot of external noise, more than closed headphones.
21:15 < sir_lewk> E-J: I'm going to be living in a suite with 5 other people.  people that can get a little loud... :)
21:15 <+kirsk> not all IEMs
21:16 <@Andy_J> Continue on, I just needed that quote for something.
21:16 < sir_lewk> I love that Dan_E quote
21:16 < Merthsoft> i love dan_e
21:16 < sir_lewk> no me
21:16 <@E-J> sir_lewk: well i use headphones mostly when i'm driving with bike and walking outside, it's always better to hear what's happening around you
21:17 < Damakaru> And I might have the louded bass system in the dorm (and from a piece of crap amplifier that only cost me twenty dollars), but the combined volume of everyone else blaring their systems, and the studio production dude that resides a short ways down and has that huge sixteen-inch subwoofer, it gets pretty friggin' loud.
21:17 <@E-J> or walking*
21:17 < sir_lewk> ah, yeah then
21:17 <+kirsk> 16" is huge?
21:17 < sir_lewk> I have some cheapos for walking around town too, it's best to not look like you might have money
21:17 < sir_lewk> ie, ipod headphones are a good way to get mugged
21:18 < sir_lewk> and with cheapos you can hear people around you, which is important...
21:18 < Damakaru> I almost got hit by a car trying to walk with mine in.  
21:18 < sir_lewk> yeah, that's an issue too
21:19 < Damakaru> But that bitch was on the cell phone and hit the gas at a crosswalk.
21:19 < sir_lewk> ugh
21:19 < sir_lewk> you coulda sued
21:19 < Merthsoft> don';t walk in front of cars fucking stupid pedestrians they will kill you
21:19 < Merthsoft> fucking stupid ass people walking
21:19 < sir_lewk> I had some jackass nearly hit me with his porshe, I punched the hood of his car
21:20 < sir_lewk> I thought he was going to jump out and kill me but he thought better of leaving his car ;D
21:20 < Merthsoft> i didn't almost get hit by a car because i know how to watch for screaming metal death traps
21:20 < Damakaru> It would have been funny if the air bag came out.
21:20 < sir_lewk> (not a totally nice section of town)
21:20 < sir_lewk> haha, yeah
21:21 <@E-J> Merthsoft: what about growling death metal traps?
21:21 < Merthsoft> no
21:21 < Merthsoft> those don't exist here :)
21:21 < sir_lewk> Merthsoft is just a car ludite :P
21:21 < sir_lewk> "bizare mechanical invisible horses from hell"
21:22 < Merthsoft> hahaha
21:22 < Merthsoft> all i'm saying is, if you get hit by a car, you're a fucking idiot. unless the car was driving on the sidewalk or something stupid.
21:22 < Merthsoft> like, people who get hit when crossing the street? IT'S A FUCKING STREET WITH CARS ON IT. THEY ARE BIGGER THAN YOU AND WILL KILL YOU
21:22 < Merthsoft> fucking idiots
21:22 < sir_lewk> I had the right of way, he was trying to turn right at a red light
21:23 < Merthsoft> yeah, they have the yield, but if they don't YOU DIE YOU ASSHOLE
21:23 < sir_lewk> he wasn't going fast or anything, just trying to push through the people on the crosswalk
21:23 < Merthsoft> !qsay 1457
21:23 <@efneTI86> 1457: (#calcs) * Nikky changes Ox40's infoline to "I screw my cousins" | <Ox40> Nikky: I would if I  could... [Added Andy_J at 2008/11/30 10:27]
21:23 < sir_lewk> bumped up against me with his bumper, I got pissed and punched his car
21:23 < Damakaru> Merthsoft:  You sound like one of my Driver's Ed. instructors.
21:24 < sir_lewk> .o.
21:24 < sir_lewk> er
21:24 < sir_lewk> lol
21:24 < Damakaru> *Old, gruff voice:*  "The IDIOT will NAIL you!"
21:24 < sir_lewk> haha
21:24 < Merthsoft> sir_lewk: one time i watched a group of people cross a crosswalk where the driver DID have the right of way, he was going straight at a green light and they just walked across, and stood there looking at him while he was honking. as far as i'm concerned, he shouldda run their asses over for being stupid cunts
21:24 < sir_lewk> oh yeah, for sure
21:25 < sir_lewk> that shit is just annoying
21:25 <@E-J> hmm
21:25 <@E-J> !qsay 693
21:25 <@efneTI86> 693: (#calcs) <Solosoft> good thing I backup religiously | <aardvarq> so every sunday? [Added aardvarq at 2006/09/17 00:50]
21:25 < sir_lewk> haha
21:27  * E-J is reading #calcs quotes
21:27 <@E-J> !qsay 210
21:27 <@efneTI86> 210: (#calcs) <Peter_W> It's erase notes, but none for notes [Added E-JL at 2005/08/05 10:46]
21:27 <@E-J> i didn't remember i have added something like that
21:28 < sir_lewk> lol
21:28 < i_c-Y> !q
21:28 <@efneTI86> 1033: <aardvarq> Strange. I always thought it stood for testicle colon pancreas amputees. | <aardvarq> I had my pancreas out. PatrickD has no colon. And, well, Tahben. | <i_c-Y> she has no prostate | <i_c-Y> or testicles i guess. | <aardvarq> i_c-Y: Yeah, and Netham45 too.  [Added: i_c-Y at 2007/09/13 14:05]
21:28 < sir_lewk>  |
21:28 < sir_lewk>                   <aardvarq> I had my pancreas out. PatrickD has no colon. And, well, Tahben. | <i_c-Y> she has no
21:28 < sir_lewk> shitwat
21:28 < i_c-Y> !q
21:28 <@efneTI86> 971: <Andy_J> kevinh90, CHANFIX. | <kevinh90> oh, i forgot efnet has that now | <Andy_J> "now" has only been several years. [Added: DSP_Lord at 2007/08/14 08:17]
21:28 < i_c-Y> !q
21:28 <@efneTI86> 956: <Spengo> noobs will be noobs [Added: slythe at 2007/07/26 23:00]
21:28 < i_c-Y> !q
21:28 <@efneTI86> 504: spengo: dell is like, the apple of PCs | spengo:  :P | Hunterkll:  .... | Hunterkll:  !k spengo | efneTI86 has kicked spengo from #tcpa (hunterkll) [Added: hunterkll at 2006/05/08 22:26]
21:29 < i_c-Y> !q
21:29 <@efneTI86> 487: (12:55:21) _Digital: typical hairdryer uses 1500+watts (12:56:07) Michael_V: Overclock it (12:56:09) Michael_V: go for 5000  [Added: froody at 2006/03/21 11:04]
21:29 < sir_lewk> lmao
21:29 < sir_lewk> more, more
21:29 < i_c-Y> !q
21:29 <@efneTI86> 39: <aardvarq> Yes, you're right. That's not what I would have said. I would have said "You invent a time machine, put all this money and effort into building it, travel back to find me, and all you do is tell me that my girlfriend is crazy? I dunno if you fo [Added: Mike_K at 2005/05/10 13:54]
21:29 < sir_lewk> !q
21:29 <@efneTI86> 935: <tr1p1ea> i ate like a whole pizza tonight | <DSP_Lord> because you were drunk | <tr1p1ea> and because i was hungry | <DSP_Lord> that too, but mostly because you were drunk | <tr1p1ea> yws | <tr1p1ea> yes* | <tr1p1ea> i have 2 pieces of pizza left | <tr1p1ea> you hungry | <tr1p1ea> ? | <DSP_Lord> what're you going to do, DCC me pizza? | <tr1p1ea> i can try | <DSP_Lord> XD [Added: DSP_Lord at 2007/07/15 03:55]
21:30 < sir_lewk> mmmm, pizza
21:30 < sir_lewk> fuck, this has been a long week
21:30 < sir_lewk> I need a drink
21:30 <+kirsk> band of brothers is pretty awesome with force-feedback sound
21:31 < sir_lewk> O.O
21:31 < sir_lewk> force-feedback sound? really heavy bass?
21:31 <+kirsk> 25kg sub
21:32 < sir_lewk> whoa
21:32 < ports-> i want solid food
21:32 < ports-> i could really go for a thin crust pizza
21:32 < sir_lewk> ports-: beer is solid right?
21:32 < sir_lewk> well, not american shit anyways
21:32 <+kirsk> ew thin crust
21:32 <@E-J> put it to fridge
21:32 < sir_lewk> thin crust is decent
21:33 < sir_lewk> LOL E-J 
21:33 < sir_lewk> frozen beer?!?
21:33 < sir_lewk> I wonder how cold that'd need to be
21:33 <@E-J> not very cold, i have seen those
21:35 <@E-J> if you put beer to balcony when outside is <0C, it will freeze
21:35 < i_c-Y> just stick a beer bottle in the freezer for half a day without moving it
21:35 < i_c-Y> then take it out and give it a shake
21:35 < i_c-Y> and it will freeze.
21:35 < sir_lewk> hmm
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21:37 < sir_lewk> we need a new witty topic
21:37 < sir_lewk> dead cat is old news
21:38 < sir_lewk> (assuming it ever was news...)
21:38 <@E-J> it was
21:38 < sir_lewk> yeah, "news"
21:38 < sir_lewk> not real news, just cruft meant to sell airtime and distract the masses
21:38 <+kirsk> what shall i buy for a hippie girl's birthday where the theme is winter/snow/ice/stuff
21:39 < sir_lewk> I cake
21:39 < sir_lewk> an ice cake
21:39 < sir_lewk> *A
21:39 <+kirsk> i think there will already be cake
21:39 < Damakaru> No, you had it right, "an."
21:39 < sir_lewk> but a cake made of ICE?!?
21:39 < i_c-Y> kirsk: a snow blower
21:39 < sir_lewk> no, I was replaceing the "I cake"
21:39 -!- E-J changed the topic of #tcpa to: Welcome to the TCPA | http://tcpa.calcg.org | Soon in news: sir_lewk is planning to make beer ice pop
21:39 <@E-J> better?
21:40 < sir_lewk> I am not a cake, despite continued accusations by the mainstream media
21:40 < sir_lewk> wooo :D
21:40 < sir_lewk> that'd be sweet :D
21:40 < sir_lewk> actually bitter.  and rather cold
21:40 < sir_lewk> but awesome
21:41 < Merthsoft> !t Welcome to the TCPA | http://tcpa.calcg.org | Soon in news: sir_lewk is planning to become a cake
21:41 -!- efneTI86 changed the topic of #tcpa to: Welcome to the TCPA | http://tcpa.calcg.org | Soon in news: sir_lewk is planning to become a cake
21:41 < sir_lewk> wat!?!
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21:41 < sir_lewk> deflamation
21:41 <+kirsk> ok so ice cake
21:41 < ports-> stop it you bitches
21:41 <+kirsk> anything else?
21:41 < sir_lewk> what does she like?
21:41 < sir_lewk> pot?
21:41 < Merthsoft> crysal meth
21:41 < Merthsoft> t
21:42 < sir_lewk> does she like hippy-ish stuff?
21:42 <+kirsk> yeah
21:42 < sir_lewk> buy her some "carbon credits".  for lulz
21:42 <+kirsk> im not in americas
21:42 < sir_lewk> no, that'd be a horrible gift
21:42 < sir_lewk> almost as bad as donating to a charity in her name
21:43 < sir_lewk> what a horrible gift
21:43 <@E-J> jacket made from hemp
21:43 < sir_lewk> ugh
21:43 < sir_lewk> yeah!
21:43 < sir_lewk> hemp jacket
21:43 <+kirsk> she's not that much of a hippie
21:43 < sir_lewk> oh
21:43 < sir_lewk> how about a chia pet
21:43 < _Auron_> http://www.nyleveia.com/daco/MemoryCard.JPG
21:43 < _Auron_> lmfao..
21:43 < sir_lewk> those are fun and kinda hippyish
21:44 < sir_lewk> they should make a jimi hendrix chia pet...
21:44 <+kirsk> heh
21:45 < _Auron_> y'know I don't understand why they charge more for meat n at places
21:45 < _Auron_> chipotle they charge more for beef/steak, taco bell they charge more for chicken
21:46 < ports-> because youre getting more
21:46 <+kirsk> an ice cake isnt a bad idea
21:46 < _Auron_> no
21:46 < _Auron_> if you replace a meat with another meat, it costs more
21:46 < ports-> i usually get veggie tacos are chipotle.. black beans and rice.
21:46 <+kirsk> but theyll probably already have some
21:46 < _Auron_> depending on the place depends on which meat costs mor than the other
21:46 < ports-> yeah
21:46 < ports-> fuck i would really like some tacos right now
21:46 <+kirsk> ill look around for a white/winter themed tie
21:46 <+kirsk> to wear
21:46 < _Auron_> taco bell raised its price from 1.00 to 1.40 extra for chicken in the grilled stuft burrito
21:47 <@E-J> kirsk: what about something like this http://www.irelandlogue.com/files/2006/09/sfhampster.jpg
21:47 < ports-> i dont like the grilled stuft burritos
21:47 < _Auron_> I do, but I ask for no pico de gallo
21:47 < _Auron_> and chicken instead of beef
21:47 <+kirsk> she's a normal person you know, not a walking stereotype ; )
21:47 < ports-> kirsk:  liar
21:48 < ports-> kirsk:  are you still trying to date that whore that doesnt like you?
21:48 <+kirsk> the metal one?
21:48 < ports-> theres more than one?
21:48 <+kirsk> no i guess not
21:48 <+kirsk> and no
21:48 <+kirsk> hell no
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21:50 <+kirsk> i cant think of anything nice though
21:51 <+kirsk> except red vodka but like most things ill have to assume she has plenty of it already
21:51 < _Auron_> red vodka?
21:53 < sir_lewk> taco bells regular meat is not meat
21:53 < ports-> Redd
21:53 < sir_lewk> they charge you extra for chicken or steak
21:53 < ports-> stfu
21:53 < ports-> kirsk:  buy her those vibrating cock rings
21:54 < sir_lewk> lol
21:54 <+kirsk> uhm no
21:54 < ports-> im serious
21:54 < ports-> my last girlfriend. i used to buy those for us... she LOVED them
21:54 < sir_lewk> "Cockrings, a practical gift for that special female in your life"
21:54 < _Auron_> a cockring for a girl?
21:54 < _Auron_> er.. why?
21:54 <+kirsk> she's not my gf
21:54 < sir_lewk> apparently so
21:54 <+kirsk> stimulates clit
21:55 < sir_lewk> I overheard a very intense discussion about barbed wire cockrings once
21:55 < _Auron_> ...
21:55 <+kirsk> silly emos
21:56 < sir_lewk> that's the thing, they wern't emos
21:56 < _Auron_> I'm going to ask my friend if he would consider getting his gf a vibrating cockring and see what his reaction is
21:56 < sir_lewk> hot jewish chicks
21:56 <+kirsk> im sure she and her bf have all the toys they need
21:57 < sir_lewk> they should make vibrating nipple peircings
21:57 < sir_lewk> just... because.
21:57 <+kirsk> you can put a cockring on a nipple clamp
21:57 < _Auron_> bday or something krisk?
21:57 <+kirsk> jup
21:57 < sir_lewk> yeah
21:58 <+kirsk> we're all going iceskating at night : )
21:58 < sir_lewk> you could get a gift certificate to some chick store
21:58 < sir_lewk> nice, iceskating is fun
21:58 <+kirsk> yep
21:58 < _Auron_> never been, I had a fear of the skate cutting off my finger if I ever fell down when I was younger
21:58 < _Auron_> not that I care now
21:58 <+kirsk> still need to think of a better gift than icecake or whatever i randomly run into in town
21:59 < ports-> dude im crazy
21:59 < sir_lewk> we know
21:59 < ports-> i might be getting a 3rd blackberry
21:59 < sir_lewk> why?
21:59 < _Auron_> wtf
21:59 < ports-> i have a nokia n75 that im not using anymore
21:59  * Merthsoft is watching aladdin :)
21:59 < ports-> and this guy on the forums wants to trade his blackberry 8320 for a nokia symbian phone
22:00 < sir_lewk> darngonnit youngins with their cellular telephones!
22:00 < ports-> _Auron_:  that hot friend of mine. she wants a blackberry.. id just sell it to her on the cheap
22:00 < sir_lewk> get off my lawn!
22:00 <+kirsk> sell it for services
22:00 < ports-> kirsk:  ask auron about her
22:00 < sir_lewk> yar, sell it for "benifits"
22:00 < sir_lewk> she is hot
22:00 < _Auron_> like I said, I don't think it sounds like she can afford anything new right now
22:01 < ports-> _Auron_:  me neither
22:01 < ports-> _Auron_:  but i have rules.. i dont tell people how to spend their money.
22:01 <+kirsk> ok, *asks auron*
22:01 < _Auron_> she's probably not goth metal enough for krisk
22:01 < ports-> i WILL attempt to help them spend it efficiently though, so that they dont get ripped off.
22:01 < sir_lewk> pah, she's hot enough for anyone
22:01 < _Auron_> lol lewk
22:01 < _Auron_> someone has a crush! ;)
22:01 <+kirsk> hippy nerdy or generic alt is fine too
22:01 < sir_lewk> :P
22:02 < sir_lewk> I've seen a picture of her :P
22:02 <+kirsk> pics required
22:02 < ports-> sir_lewk:  if you saved that photo or something i migt kill you
22:02 < ports-> might
22:02 < sir_lewk> lulz
22:02 < sir_lewk> no I didn't
22:02 < ports-> k
22:02 < ports-> i am friends with a lot of hot girls though.. :)
22:02 < ports-> youve seen my TCPA.com phot
22:02 < sir_lewk> mmkay
22:02 < _Auron_> http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v299/156/39/37709802/n37709802_32967154_8874.jpg
22:02 < ports-> photo
22:02 < sir_lewk> showoff
22:02 <+kirsk> left?
22:02 < _Auron_> yeah
22:02 < ports-> kirsk:  left
22:03 < ports-> sir_lewk:  a little.
22:03 < sir_lewk> hmm?
22:03 <+kirsk> i like less tan but she's nice
22:03 < ports-> im just enough of a bastard to make girls want to be my friend, but not enough of one to make them sleep with me
22:03 <@E-J> changed channel to finnish swedish channel, but there is lappish language news
22:03 <@E-J> language should be related to finnish but i can't understand a word
22:03  * sir_lewk heads out
22:03 < ports-> anyways
22:04 < _Auron_> lol, if a girl sleeps with a guy and he's not her gf or it's a fling or whatever, she's a slut. but if it's between two gay guys, it doesn't matter and it's normal
22:04 < _Auron_> weird standards
22:04 < ports-> _Auron_:  if the guy trades me a BB 8320 for my Nokia N75... its in my favor anyway.. becuse the BB is worth more money
22:04 < ports-> hey fuck you
22:05 < ports-> gay people can be sluts too
22:05 <+kirsk> its easyer for girls to get laid
22:05 < _Auron_> no. ALL gay people are sluts
22:05 < ports-> didnt your people start the whole fur piling thing?
22:05 < ports-> _Auron_:  re-read my previous statement.. i said CAN BE TOO
22:05 < _Auron_> -can be +are
22:05 < ports-> where a bunch of gay guys get into animal costumes and fur pile and jack eachother off.
22:06 < ports-> _Auron_:  learn english!
22:06 < _Auron_> all gay guys are sluts, which is why it's normal. :P
22:06 < ports-> wtf
22:06 <+kirsk> no not all
22:06 < ports-> not true at all
22:06 <+kirsk> in fact the only one i know isnt
22:06 < ports-> i know gays that couldnt get laid by either sex
22:06 < _Auron_> I'm joking
22:07 < ports-> and i also know gays that would grab my girlfriends vagina in public...
22:07 < Merthsoft> haha, the gay making a gay joke and the straights getting all uppitty
22:07 < _Auron_> Merthsoft++
22:07 < ports-> Merthsoft: no i was uppity cuz auron doesnt speak english properly
22:07 <+kirsk> jokes work better when theyre funny
22:07 < ports-> all that cock in his mouth broke his brain
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22:08 < ports-> _Auron_:  anything you put in your nose goes straight to your brain!
22:08 < _Auron_> which is it, mouth or nose?
22:08 < _Auron_> either case, it was actually through the ear!
22:08 < ports-> your mouth is connected to your nose
22:08 < ports-> they need to stop cock butting you in the brain
22:08 < ports-> its making you stupid
22:08 < _Auron_> you're just mad
22:08 < ports-> that you get cock?
22:08 < _Auron_> also, it's*
22:08 < _Auron_> mr. "can't speak english"
22:09 < ports-> touche
22:09 < _Auron_> :)
22:09 < ports-> like carlos mencia said.. if you can take a cock, you can take a joke!
22:10 < _Auron_> and if you can take a pickle jar you're probably goatse
22:10 < ports-> wow.. its jan 9th
22:10 < ports-> ive almost been at this job 2 months now
22:12 < ports-> thats nuts
22:13 < _Auron_> time flies
22:16 < Tari> so, I'm sure everyone saw XKCD today
22:16 < Tari> I'm not going to try to implement that in a linux system
22:16 < Tari> launch a hitler program instead of init at boot
22:16 < ports-> ok
22:16 < ports-> _Auron_:  yeah... time flies getting rich :)
22:16 < Tari> (init=/bin/hitler or some such)
22:19 <+kirsk> heh maybe ill buy some smirnoff ice
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22:19 < i_c-Y> pansy.
22:19 <+kirsk> for the ice themed party
22:20 < i_c-Y> pansy.
22:22 <+kirsk> got a better idea?
22:22 < i_c-Y> yes. yes i do.
22:22 <+kirsk> care to share it?
22:23 < i_c-Y> no, id rather hear that you had a miserable time at the party
22:23 < Merthsoft> i_c-Y++
22:23 <+kirsk> that's not possible
22:23 <+kirsk> it's always fun with that gang
22:23 < i_c-Y> the smirnoff ice seals that possibility
22:24 <+kirsk> nah she's always happy with anything
22:25 <+kirsk> but i'd like to get something nice because she got me something pretty cool for my bd
22:25 < i_c-Y> and smirnoff is the best you can think of?
22:25 < i_c-Y> pssh, burn.
22:27 <+kirsk> "pfft, that's cold"
22:27 < i_c-Y> hm. im thinking of upgrading my old desktop
22:29 <+kirsk> i thought a cool casual winter themed tie was a pretty good idea
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22:33 <@E-J> some of my drunken friends have said that smirnoff ice is those what teens drink
22:33 <+kirsk> its a girls drink
22:34 <+kirsk> supposedly
22:34 <@E-J> girls, teens, gays (sorry _Auron_ for stereotypical expression)
22:34 < i_c-Y> E-J: "teen girls", not "girls, teens"
22:35 <@E-J> i_c-Y: there might be some boys who drink that as well (but they are most likely gay) and some older chicks
22:36 <@E-J> but they are acting like teen girls
22:36 < i_c-Y> then lets remove the teen qualifier and just say girls, gays
22:36 <+kirsk> and people who arent totally stuck up on dumb teen social rules
22:36 < i_c-Y> looks like kirsk is offended by his drink
22:37 < i_c-Y> of choice
22:37 <+kirsk> ?
22:37 <+kirsk> i just think the notions being expressed are dumb
22:37 <+kirsk> i drink anything from chocomel with baileys to vodka to beer to water to whatever
22:38 < i_c-Y> np: Kalmah - The Groan of Wind
22:38 < i_c-Y> Baileys is gross
22:38 <+kirsk> with people who are actually cool and thus dont care what you drink : )
22:38 <+kirsk> its nice with chocolate milk omnomnomnom
22:38 < i_c-Y> keep telling yourself that, kid.
22:38 <+kirsk> its like liquid caramel with alcohol
22:38 <+kirsk> taste-wise
22:39 <+kirsk> the smirnoff ice would be a gift though
22:40 <+kirsk> i cant remember what it tastes like, dont think i care for it much
22:40 < i_c-Y> you're giving cheap pseudo alcohol for a girft?
22:41 < i_c-Y> gift?
22:41 < i_c-Y> think again, bub
22:41 <+kirsk> im not sure, but if i cant find anything better, maybe
22:42 < i_c-Y> even a friggin snow globe is a better idea
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22:43 <+kirsk> nah and i dont think i can find any here
22:44 <+kirsk> maybe i can find a fancy white/blue icey coloured scarf for her and add that
22:44 < i_c-Y> that's a better idea.
22:44 < i_c-Y> go with the smirnoff ice. i want to see you burn.
22:45 <+kirsk> im sure ill have to go to another city to find one though
22:45 < i_c-Y> whens the party
22:45 <+kirsk> tomorrow night
22:45 < i_c-Y> well get goin you bum
22:46 <+kirsk> its 15 minutes till midnight
22:46 < i_c-Y> well get goin you bum
22:47 < Nikky> sir_lewk: you know, you can remove bans
22:47 <+kirsk> ?
22:47 <+kirsk> get goin where?
22:49 < i_c-Y> to get the scarf
22:49 < i_c-Y> its a better idea than the smirnoff ice
22:49 < i_c-Y> though i suppose getting both cant be bad
22:49 <+kirsk> yeah i think maybe both
22:49 < i_c-Y> where did Ox40Work go?
22:49 < i_c-Y> he should join in on this conversation
22:50 < i_c-Y> so i can say both of your ideas are dumb
22:50 <+kirsk> but the city where i know theres a store with nice scarfs is more than an hour away so ill have to ask my friend who lives there to check for me
22:50 <+kirsk> everything but cafes is closed now anyway
22:51 <+kirsk> i think she has plenty of scarfs htough
22:51 < Nikky> Are you locked in your basement?
22:51 -!- Speler [~Speller@pool-68-237-248-87.ny325.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 390 seconds]
22:51 <+kirsk> actually houses here dont have basements
22:51 < i_c-Y> that way he wont possibly contaminate the gene pool.
22:52 < sir_lewk> hey peeps, I've got a revelation
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22:52 <+kirsk> is it a good gift idea?
22:52 < i_c-Y> sir_lewk: does it involve you swallowing cyanide
22:52 < i_c-Y> ?
22:53 < i_c-Y> or some sort of heavy metal?
22:53 < sir_lewk> no, it's a good train of thought though
22:53 < i_c-Y> well, lets hear it.
22:53 < sir_lewk> "We hold these truths to be self-evident" (from the US declaration of independance)
22:54 < sir_lewk> nomater what the religous right nuttjobs think, there is no way that line was written by a religious man.
22:54 < i_c-Y> who cares?
22:54 < sir_lewk> at least not religous in the sense that they talk about
22:54 < sir_lewk> think about it, no christain finds *anything* to be self evident.
22:54 <+kirsk> except the existence of god
22:55 < sir_lewk> to them, things are evident if god says they are, they would never claim that something is self evident
22:55 < sir_lewk> anyways, I found that interesting
22:56 <+kirsk> i_c-Y: what about ice tea?
22:56 -!- Mwyann [~Mwy@88-123-67-114.rev.libertysurf.net] has joined #tcpa
22:56 < sir_lewk> I was in a debate today whether or not the US was meant to be based off religious ideals today with someone,  my mind kept coming back to that  line
22:56 < sir_lewk> now I know why
22:56 < i_c-Y> kirsk: uh... wow. now you're just reaching. and id almost feel bad to tell you how dumb that idea is.
22:56 < Merthsoft> the founding fathers were diests, and spoke against christianity
22:56 <+kirsk> what about "one nation under god" ?
22:56 < sir_lewk> scratch the redundant todays too
22:57 < sir_lewk> yeah, all that shit
22:57 < Merthsoft> wasn't added till mid 1900s
22:57 < i_c-Y> you communists.
22:57 < sir_lewk> yup
22:57 < sir_lewk> but he kept going on about "common law was based off religious pricipals" and shit
22:58 <+kirsk> i thought about led coloured refillable plastic icecubes but they already have those
22:58 < sir_lewk> he's the kind of guy you can never pin down because ultimately he doesn't appeal to logic, but it makes for fun debate
22:58 < i_c-Y> you can pin him down pretty easily
22:58 < i_c-Y> ice pick to the head
22:58 < sir_lewk> oh trust me
22:58 <+kirsk> too expensive
22:58 < sir_lewk> he'd deny it was there
22:59 < sir_lewk> "tis but a flesh wound" style
22:59 <+kirsk> if you think about it then surely the morals and ideals of the founding guys were influenced by western mainstream religions they were brought up around
23:01 < sir_lewk> perhaps
23:01 < sir_lewk> "common law" kind of stuff is pretty generic
23:01 < sir_lewk> "don't kill" is a classic from just about any system of believes
23:01 < chronomex> most != all  :)
23:01 < sir_lewk> :P
23:02 < i_c-Y> kill and kill again.
23:02 < sir_lewk> I won't say that they weren't influenced but it was pretty clear that they were opposed to a national religioun and the like
23:02 < sir_lewk> brb
23:04 < Nikky> Religion sucks.
23:05 < Spengo> we should ban it
23:05 < _Auron_> here we go again
23:05 < sir_lewk> I'd call that an equally bad idea
23:06 < sir_lewk> I say just leave people the fuck alone, let them be stupid ignorant fucks
23:06 < sir_lewk> anyways, its dinner time, what should I make?
23:07 < sir_lewk> rootbeer float perhaps...
23:07 < _Auron_> let the world rot? k
23:07 < Nikky> Yep.
23:07 < Nikky> LET IT ROT
23:08 < Spengo> sir_lewk, I was joking
23:08 < sir_lewk> hmm?
23:08 < sir_lewk> oh, yeah of course :P
23:09 < sir_lewk> uhm, stupid question
23:10 < sir_lewk> how do you scroll up in gnu screen?
23:10 < Nikky> yes, you should uninstall fedora
23:10 < sir_lewk> wat no
23:10 < sir_lewk> fedora is sex
23:10 <+kirsk> i thought sex was sex
23:10 < Nikky> No.
23:10 < Nikky> You have no idea what sex is kirsk 
23:11 < sir_lewk> lmao
23:11 <+kirsk> so thats what ive been doing wrong
23:11 < sir_lewk> yes
23:11 < Spengo> indeed
23:11 < sir_lewk> instead of trying to get sex, you need to get girls to give you fedora
23:11 < sir_lewk> THEN you will have sex
23:11 < Nikky> Right.
23:12 < sir_lewk> I'm kind of suprized noone has clued you in yet
23:12 < _Auron_> hmm trying to make a perfect grid of copied items in photoshop is hard when each object has a transparent background, in photoshop
23:12 < _Auron_> why did I say photoshop twice
23:12 <+kirsk> well nobody was nice enough aparently. figures.
23:13 < sir_lewk> consitancy is next to godlyness
23:13 < sir_lewk> redunancy must be pretty close though
23:14 < sir_lewk> anyways, seriously.  how do I scroll up in screen?
23:14 < Nikky> pgup
23:14 < sir_lewk> pgup isn't doing it
23:14 < i_c-Y> dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda
23:14 < i_c-Y> shift pgup
23:14 < sir_lewk> just goes through previous commands
23:14 < sir_lewk> doens't do anything
23:14 < i_c-Y> then its just pgup
23:15 < sir_lewk> yeah, not doing it
23:16 < i_c-Y> try c-v or m-v ?
23:16 < i_c-Y> err wait
23:16 < i_c-Y> no that wont work
23:16 < sir_lewk> pgup is scrolling up in irssi
23:16 < sir_lewk> so that works
23:16 < sir_lewk> works in gui apps too
23:16 < i_c-Y> try ctrl a [?
23:17 < i_c-Y> ctrl a [ 
23:17 < i_c-Y> then pg up
23:17 < sir_lewk> nope
23:18 < i_c-Y> ctrl+a [ works for me
23:18 < Spengo> I have an idea
23:18 < Spengo> try ctrl alt backspace
23:18 < i_c-Y> hit ctrl+a
23:18 < i_c-Y> then hit [
23:18 < sir_lewk> >:(
23:18 < i_c-Y> then hit pg up
23:18 < Spengo> hehehe
23:18 < sir_lewk> I almost tried that Spengo :P
23:18 < Spengo> dang
23:18 <@Andy_J> C-a esc then page up
23:18 < Spengo> why didn't you?
23:19 <@Andy_J> C-a esc is copy mode
23:19 < sir_lewk> Ctrl+Alt+...wait a second...
23:19 <@Andy_J> just don't copy anything :p
23:19 <@Andy_J> some terminals will let you scroll normally with screen
23:19 < sir_lewk> Andy_J: that worked
23:19 <@Andy_J> others won't
23:19 < sir_lewk> I'm using xterm and konsole, same behaviour for both
23:20 <@Andy_J> it also depends on the settings for screen I think
23:20 <@Andy_J> and the OS maybe
23:20 <@Andy_J> I don't know
23:20 <@Andy_J> it isn't consistent
23:20 < sir_lewk> I don't have any custom screen settings
23:20 <@Andy_J> distro defaults maybe
23:20 <+kirsk> episode 6: bastogne
23:20 < sir_lewk> I'll research this later then
23:20 < sir_lewk> kirsk: that's a good one
23:21 < i_c-Y> E-J: how does one pronounce Espoo? Es-poo?
23:22 <@Andy_J> It's-a poo!
23:22 <@Andy_J> >.>;
23:22 < i_c-Y> :|
23:23 < chronomex> i_c-Y: I suspect you pronounce it "espoo"
23:23 < chronomex> is there really more than one plausible pronunciation?
23:23 < i_c-Y> yes.
23:23 < sir_lewk> oh cool, after ctrl a esc, I can use vi keys to scroll :D
23:24 < chronomex> that's neat
23:24 < chronomex> but that's copy mode
23:24 <@Andy_J> so? it works as an impromptu scroll mode
23:24 < i_c-Y> chronomex: for example, helsinki, if you just read it out loud, youd say hell-sink-ee
23:24 <@Andy_J> though it pauses execution of whatever was there
23:24 < i_c-Y> instead of something that sounds more like hellsing
23:24 < chronomex> Andy_J: yeah
23:25 < chronomex> i_c-Y: oh
23:27 < i_c-Y> if its prounced es-poo, they should add a k
23:27 < i_c-Y> so its espook
23:33 < ReDeEm> PLease don't let me knowwwwwww
23:33 < ReDeEm> if ur playin me.... keep it on the looowwwww
23:33 < ReDeEm> Cuz my HEART CANT TAKE it anyMORRRRR
23:33 < ReDeEm> if ur playin me..... please don't let it showwwwww....
23:33 < Merthsoft> helsinki is pronounced hellsing?
23:33 < Merthsoft> ReDeEm: stfu
23:34 < ReDeEm> Merthsoft: HEY! I was singin that song to you!
23:34 < ReDeEm> :(
23:34 <+kirsk> ReDeEm: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8sswYPhyQU :o
23:34 < sir_lewk> ok
23:34 < sir_lewk> I guess screen is kind of like vim
23:34 < sir_lewk> it gets much better the more time you spend configuring it
23:35 < sir_lewk> although vim is badass to start >.>
23:35 < i_c-Y> this auditorium game is awesome
23:35 < Tari> it is
23:35 < Tari> although I'm not very good at it
23:36 < Merthsoft> Andy_J: how's tyhe snow?
23:36 <@Andy_J> White.
23:36 < chronomex> cold?
23:36 < Merthsoft> you guys getting a lot?
23:36 < sir_lewk> I don't have anything
23:37 <@Andy_J> haven't looked in a while but it was building up a bit
23:37 < Merthsoft> we're supposed to get like 6 inches, but it's not even snowing anymore. looking at the radar it's up in akron, and is gonna stay up north all nioght
23:37 <@Andy_J> stark county is in a hole right now lololol
23:37 < ReDeEm> We got like, 2-3 inches today :(
23:37 < Merthsoft> where's stark?
23:38 <@Andy_J> right under summit
23:38 <@Andy_J> also, theo nly one in the hole <_<
23:38 < Merthsoft> where's summit?
23:38 <@Andy_J> .... the one akron is in
23:38 < Merthsoft> so stark is liek canton?
23:38 <@Andy_J> yes
23:39 < Merthsoft> yah, radar shows them getting hit the worst
23:39 < ReDeEm> kirsk: <3 the chick
23:39 < Merthsoft> it's mostly over for licing
23:39 < Merthsoft> licking
23:39 < ReDeEm> But, she is stronger than me, so meh
23:39 <+kirsk> <3<3
23:39 < Merthsoft> ahahahahaha
23:39 < Merthsoft> Summit County is long reputed as the "Meth Capital of Ohio" due mainly to its county seat Akron being located within the county.
23:40 <@Andy_J> .
23:40 < Damakaru> *Munching on chicken:*  'Sup.
23:40 < sir_lewk> meh, screw screen
23:40 < Merthsoft> Andy_J: do you guys do lots of meth?
23:40 < sir_lewk> it fucks with mousesupport in vim
23:40 < sir_lewk> I don't need that locally
23:40 < Merthsoft> vim sucks
23:40 < sir_lewk> vim kicks ass
23:41 < chronomex> so does meth
23:41 < chronomex> wait
23:41 < Damakaru> sir_lewk:  +1
23:41 < ReDeEm> ok, wish me luck. MythBuntu time :)
23:41 < sir_lewk> vim is just too advanced for screen's weaksauce terminal
23:41 < sir_lewk> only xterm can fully weild it's great power
23:41 < Merthsoft> oh yeah, ReDeEm is Ox40 isn't he
23:42 < Damakaru> Merthsoft:  Yes.
23:42 < Merthsoft> that explains the loathing
23:43 < ReDeEm> ^_-
23:43 < Merthsoft> blah i wish i had my guitar with me right now
23:47 < Damakaru> Oh, man, these chicken strips and biscuits are fucking 'A'.
23:48 < ReDeEm> i_c-Y?
23:48 < ReDeEm> Damakaru: ooh, chicken strips?!
23:48 < ReDeEm> mmmmm
23:49 < ReDeEm> Hey, why does mythbuntu give me a Kernel Panic as well?
23:49 < ReDeEm> Its all the 64-bit stuff that just fails miserably.
23:49 < ReDeEm> 32-bit Arch Linux booted just fine
23:50 < Damakaru> What kind of computer is it?
23:50 < chronomex> shitty
23:50 < Damakaru> Heh.  No, seriously.
23:50 < chronomex> yeah, really
23:50 < ReDeEm> No, really. Its a really good computer.
23:50 < ReDeEm> I just built it...
23:50 < ReDeEm> i_c-Y picked out th eparts ;)
23:51 <@Andy_J> if every 64-bit kernel is panicking, then you've got a hardware issue
23:51 < i_c-Y> use vista
23:51 < ReDeEm> i_c-Y: Its not finished "coming in the mail" ;)
23:51 -!- ReDeEm was kicked from #tcpa by Andy_J [go pirate elsewhere]
23:51 -!- ReDeEm [~Kk@adsl-75-44-48-247.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #tcpa
23:51 < ReDeEm> Hey, im not pirating.
23:52 < ReDeEm> It hasn't come in the mail yet!
23:52 < Spengo> I like piracy
23:52 < Spengo> I have a legal copy of vista
23:52 < ReDeEm> ooh, its dual core CPU, would that be a problem?
23:52 < Spengo> 4 legal copies actually :>
23:52 <+kirsk> nope
23:52 <@Andy_J> unlikely
23:52 < Damakaru> Apparently, putting quotes around things automatically makes said things bad or dirty.
23:52 < Spengo> MSDNAA is pretty cool
23:53 <+kirsk> i'm "installing" my vista on this girl's "pc"
23:53 < ReDeEm> kirsk: SICK freak
23:53 < Damakaru> kirsk:  I didn't know you were into that kinky stuff.
23:54 <@Andy_J> well there'd be no reason to use the quotes if it actually was being shipped
23:54 < _Digital> yeah, if you think that is sexy, you need to re-evaluate your life
23:54 <+kirsk> whatever gets the girls
23:54 < ReDeEm> Andy_J: why is this a "problem"?
23:54 < Nikky> Pirate.
23:55 < Nikky> And he winked.
23:55 < Spengo> arr
23:55 < Nikky> arr
23:55 < Merthsoft> arr
23:55 < chronomex> arr
23:55 < ReDeEm> arr
23:56 <+kirsk> tcpa: rated arr for mischievous use of "
23:56 < chronomex> !k kirsk combo-breakers not welcome here
23:56 -!- kirsk was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [chronomex: combo-breakers not welcome here]
23:56 -!- kirsk [~krisk@j239072.upc-j.chello.nl] has joined #tcpa
23:56 < ReDeEm> ccccc-combo breaker!
23:56 < Damakaru> Arr.  Ess.  Tee.  Yuu.  Vee.
23:56 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v kirsk] by SnowCrash
23:56 < Merthsoft> krisk: rated arr for retahded
23:57 < sir_lewk> aww
23:58 < sir_lewk> screen only supports basic mouse operations
23:58 < sir_lewk> WHAT KIND OF CLI TOOL IS THIS?!?!?!
23:58 < sir_lewk> :P
23:58 < chronomex> ...
23:58 < Damakaru> Screen makes me have to push [Escape]-[0-9] to switch buffers in Irssi.
23:58 < sir_lewk> hmm, I use alt
23:58 < chronomex> same thing
23:59 < Nikky> alt is far superior
23:59 < ReDeEm> hmm, I just hit <Ctrl> + <Tab>
23:59 < ReDeEm> <Alt> + <Tab> to switch windows :)
23:59 < Nikky> okay, you don't use irssi
23:59 < chronomex> wierd, esc doesn't work, I have to use Ctrl-[
23:59 < Nikky> so stfu
23:59 < Damakaru> I thought they were only the same if you have "Meta sends Escape" enabled in XTerm.
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