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00:00 < Merthsoft> the chick who plays bones
00:00 < Merthsoft> HOT
00:00 <@E-J> heh, indeed
00:00 <+kirsk> lead character?
00:00 <@E-J> emily deschanel
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00:01 <@Andy_J> deforest kelley is not a chick <_<
00:01 < _Auron_> E-J: just a basic sony one I got for $90 at a retail store
00:01 < millinao> CNN is doing a story on cute things doing asleep
00:02 <@E-J> _Auron_: ok
00:02 < Merthsoft> http://www.myconfinedspace.com/?attachment_id=59436
00:03 < Merthsoft> one on the left
00:04 <@E-J> one on the right is her sister?
00:04 <+kirsk> zooey is cuter and hotter though
00:04 < Merthsoft> yah
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00:28 <+kirsk> anyone know anything about stretching to improve agility?
00:29 < _Auron_> why is your nick spelled different?
00:29  * _Auron_ just noticed
00:29 <+kirsk> its my ALT GOT- i mean alt nick
00:29 <+kirsk> in case krisk is taken
00:30 < _Auron_> yay HLE graphics optimizations for daedalusx64
00:37 <@E-J> his Dauron
00:37 <@E-J> krisk++
00:38 <@E-J> good sign, if you can make fun of yourself
00:43 < i_c-Y> well, theres nothing else left in his pitiful existance.
00:44 < _Auron_> troll
00:44 < i_c-Y> im not a troll
00:46 <@E-J> you are yankeetroll
00:46 <+kirsk> theres also ogling cute girls
00:53 <+metagross> cool, quotes r back up.
00:53 < Merthsoft> !q
00:53 <@efneTI86> 601: [18:35:44] <Tyler2> anyone for UNO? | [19:06:24] * Now talking in #calcgames.games | [19:06:24] * Tyler2 (~nexon@edtntnt4-port-187.dial.telus.net) has left #calcgames.games (Leaving) [Added: aardvarq at 2006/07/15 19:04]
00:54 < Merthsoft> !q
00:54 <@efneTI86> 876: <leofox> Roses are red, | <leofox> Violets are blue, | <leofox> In Soviet Russia | <leofox> Poem writes YOU! | <allyn> not funny | <leofox> Roses are red, because i rock | <leofox> allyn gtfo, or suck my [Added: aardvarq at 2007/01/20 00:01]
00:54 <+metagross> XD
00:54 < Damakaru> Mmm... chicken and from-scratch biscuits.
00:54 <+kirsk> woo leofox
00:59 <+metagross> http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/uncyclopedia/images/0/0d/Hop_on_pop.JPEG
01:02 <+kirsk> http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080928012316AAyCuLo
01:04 <+metagross> http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/uncyclopedia/images/5/57/Mathfreak2.png
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01:06 < Damakaru> kirsk:  yEESH.
01:07 < Damakaru> (!capslock)
01:20 < _Auron_> Damakaru: you grew the corn/wheat and all?
01:20 < sir_lewk> I'm watching 'Fargo'
01:20 < _Auron_> in soviet russia, fargo watches you!
01:20 < sir_lewk> ya?
01:20 < _Auron_> ya
01:21 < sir_lewk> okie dokie
01:24 < sir_lewk> this movie is supreme
01:25 < _Auron_> on an epic scale?
01:25 < _Auron_> I've never seen it
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01:25 < _Auron_> I really should dualscreen, I'd probably watch the stuff I have more if I did
01:26 < sir_lewk> it's a dark comedy set in fargo north dakota
01:27 < sir_lewk> it's pretty funny in a sublime kind of mellow disturbing way
01:27 < sir_lewk> scratch that sublime
01:27 < sir_lewk> not really sublime
01:28 < bsparks> Andy_J, you alive
01:28 <@Andy_J> no
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01:28 < bsparks> good, I have a question
01:29 <@Andy_J> no, really, I'm busy
01:29 < bsparks> so I had irssi open, after opening screen. but I forgot to toggle persistent connections on my ssh client. So when I reconnected, it didn't reconnect me to my old sesson
01:29 < bsparks> oh
01:29 <@Andy_J> erm
01:29 <@Andy_J> screen -x
01:29 < bsparks> k
01:29 <@Andy_J> you have to tell it to reconnect to the screen
01:30 < Merthsoft> hmm
01:30 < i_c-Y> you can use a screen -r , -R or -x
01:30 <+metagross> !qsay 1498
01:30 <@Andy_J> I don't think "persistent connection" would have anything to do with it
01:30 < Merthsoft> irc is working but internet is not
01:30 <@efneTI86> 1498: <Nikky> fuck you irssi | <Nikky> piece of shit [Added Merthsoft at 2009/01/05 17:18]
01:31 < i_c-Y> can you connect to your dns server?
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01:31 < sir_lewk> -x won't detach the other sessions
01:31 < sir_lewk> I use `screen -DR`
01:32 < bsparks> I got it, cool :)
01:32 <@Andy_J> I don't always want detaching other sessions :p
01:32 < sir_lewk> true
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01:32 < bsparks> ugh, now I have to play with making irssi not look like shit 
01:32 < sir_lewk> -x is fun for some stuff
01:32 < bsparks> it looked fine with the normal ssh session, but I do it through screen and it has colours and crap
01:33 <@Andy_J> it's supposed to have colors
01:33 < bsparks> I don't want colours o.o
01:33 < bsparks> not bright blue at least
01:33 <@Andy_J> then find a theme that doesn't have colors on irssi's site
01:35 < sir_lewk> ho shit
01:35 < sir_lewk> Nikky is an archiver?!?
01:35 < Nikky> yeah, ticalc is really going downhill
01:35 < sir_lewk> now I know who to bribe to get my 3 dozen quad solvers accepted :P
01:36 < Nikky> well, you can submit them
01:36 < Nikky> there's a black hole they go to
01:36 < sir_lewk> :(
01:37 < sir_lewk> oh well
01:37 < sir_lewk> is ticalc still going downhill you think, or just has been?
01:37 < Nikky> no, I was kidding
01:37 < Nikky> it was a reference to them letting me to anything
01:37 < sir_lewk> oh, lol :P
01:38 < sir_lewk> haha
01:38 < sir_lewk> nice! my program is now in /pub/83plus/basic/graphics/3d/ !
01:39 < Nikky> now I can take screenshots of ticalc's awesome archive system
01:39 < Nikky> and write an article on my site about it
01:39 < _Auron_> 3d basic graphics? wat
01:39 < sir_lewk> do it!
01:39 < sir_lewk> yeah, totally man
01:39 < _Auron_> what did you make
01:39 < sir_lewk> hall3d
01:40 < sir_lewk> http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/330/33031.html
01:40 < sir_lewk> it's kickin
01:40 < _Auron_> oh hell, one of those.
01:40 <+metagross> so, do archivers actually test the garbage they get every day?
01:40 < sir_lewk> :D
01:40 < Nikky> nope
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01:40 < Nikky> well, I don't.
01:41 < Nikky> As long as it looks okay, I accept it
01:41 <+metagross> sir_lewk: just think, it was almost 1337 bytes :P
01:41 < Nikky> luckily people use the "REPORT INAPPROPRIATE FILES" box to tell us if a file doesn't work
01:41 < Nikky> so it kind of regulates itself
01:41 < sir_lewk> I KNOW!!! :-D
01:41 < Nikky> speaking of which... be sure to use that box often
01:42 < sir_lewk> mmkay
01:42 < Nikky> I might even write a snarky response back
01:43 <+metagross> why would i go through all that trouble when you readily distribute your snarkiness here? :D
01:43 < Nikky> because it's more fun
01:44 < sir_lewk> "desktop environments that start with the letter "k." " >:(
01:44  * sir_lewk rages
01:44 < Nikky> :D
01:44 < Nikky> I did that just for you <3
01:44 < sir_lewk> lmao
01:44  * sir_lewk huggles Nikky
01:46 < sir_lewk> lawdy, I wonder how many "ya"s this movie has...
01:46 < _Auron_> over 9000
01:46 < sir_lewk> I wouldn't doubt it
01:47 < Nikky> 10000
01:47 < Nikky> http://tifreakware.ath.cx/index.php?showtopic=1403&hl=
01:48 < sir_lewk> yeah, I saw that today
01:49 < _Auron_> I'm not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing
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01:51 < Merthsoft> l
01:52 < sir_lewk> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/07/nude-protesters-from-spai_n_156024.html lolfurries
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01:53 < Tari> accidentally double-tapped s3...
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01:55 < sir_lewk> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TF3z-j8o39I LOL
01:56 < Damakaru> sudo backup-system
01:56 < ports> ?
01:57 < Tari> wrong window! :)
01:58 < Damakaru> Ooh, that would have been bad if I had put [Enter] on my password.  :P
02:00 < _Auron_> mm, good thing I'm doing my research on these apartments
02:01 <+kirsk> oh?
02:02 < _Auron_> found one that seemed promising, and did a lookup on another site.. on a scale of 1 to 100, it got a 15. :X from like 50+ reviewers
02:02 <+kirsk> lulz
02:03 < Barrett> so, I got interviewed by the FBI today
02:03 < Barrett> it was exciting
02:03 < Nikky> What for?
02:03 < _Auron_> why'd they interview you
02:03 < Barrett> old coworker and roommate applied for an internship somewhere
02:03 < Nikky> grand theft auto
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02:05 < Barrett> so a guy drove like an hour to ask me 20 minutes worth of questions
02:05 < _Auron_> heh
02:06 < Barrett> that would have been a good chance to get back at him for marrying the girl I had a crush on (before he did)
02:07 < Barrett> (I had a crush on her before he liked her, in case that wasn't very clear)
02:09 < Nikky> :(
02:09 < Nikky> You should have said he made bombs.
02:09 < Barrett> haha
02:09 < Barrett> well, I kind of got over it after getting to know her better...
02:09 < Nikky> And talked about "the man" a lot.
02:12 < Barrett> hmmm... this stock is worth half a penny
02:12 < Barrett> I wonder if I should buy $200 worth
02:12 < sir_lewk> lolno
02:12 < _Auron_> um
02:12 < _Auron_> don't play with stocks right now
02:13 < Barrett> it's a very good time to play with stocks right now... with money that you're willing to lose, that is
02:13 < sir_lewk> no way, now is as good as time as any to play with stocks
02:13 < sir_lewk> but penny stocks suck
02:13 < Barrett> 1 cent to 2 cents doubles my money
02:13 < Barrett> so easy
02:14 < sir_lewk> yeah, but there is probably a reason it's on $0.01, and it's probably not because it's doing well...
02:14 < Nikky> I agree wtih Barrett 
02:14 < Nikky> godo time to play with stocks
02:14 < Nikky> I suggest buying some of NikkyCorp
02:14 < sir_lewk> yes, that is true
02:14 < _Auron_> lol
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02:15 < Nikky> WE specialize in lard synthesis
02:15 < sir_lewk> I shorted 9000 shares of NikkyCorp the other day
02:15 < sir_lewk> it was fun
02:15 < lordgoat> sup
02:15 < Nikky> hi
02:15 < Nikky> welcome back
02:15 < i_c-Y> i have a controlling interest in NikkyCorp
02:15 < lordgoat> i was bored
02:15 < _Auron_> I almost stopped by the t-mobile store when I went to subway earlier to ask how much their 3G is
02:15 < _Auron_> for self-amusement
02:16 < bsparks> "homicide rate jumps 400% in detroit family"
02:16 < _Auron_> their site doesn't list a service or any kind of fee
02:17 < sir_lewk> bsparks: lolwat
02:17 < bsparks> sir_lewk, it's an onion news ticker headline
02:17 < sir_lewk> oh, lol
02:18 < Barrett> if this $.005 stock goes up to $1, and I invest $200... think how much money I'll have
02:18 < _Auron_> I wouldn't even know how to get into stocks.
02:21 < Damakaru> I'm thinking of it a little bit like Las Vegas.
02:21 < Damakaru> Except with (possibly) better chances.
02:22 < Barrett> yes, better chances.
02:22 < Barrett> if you diversify
02:22 < Barrett> stocks have always generally gone up
02:22 < Barrett> in vegas you generally lose money
02:27 < Barrett> http://www.theonion.com/content/video/in_the_know_do_you_remember_life
02:27 < Barrett> last 5 seconds of that are the best
02:27 < Barrett> but you have to watch the whole thing
02:28 < Barrett> maybe 10 or 15 seconds
02:51 < sir_lewk> _Auron_: you look for old companies with good histories of treating their shareholders right, you buy into them and stay in
02:52 < sir_lewk> may not make you a millionare overnight but it'll be a decent investment
02:52 < i_c-Y> and before you take his advice, insert ad hom here.
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02:59 < _Auron_> no like, literally where/how to buy them
02:59 < _Auron_> but I'm not interested
03:00 <@Andy_J> hmm I thought there was a built-in way to do "command prompt here" in windows explorer in vista =\
03:00 < metagross> hold shift and right click?
03:01 <@Andy_J> nope
03:01 < metagross> "Open Command Window Here"
03:01 < metagross> Does on MY computer. :/
03:01 < i_c-Y> its shift and right click on a folder.
03:01 <@Andy_J> oh that is retarded
03:01 < _Auron_> get the explorer extension
03:01 <@Andy_J> you can't do it in the treeview
03:02 <@Andy_J> you have to do it in the right pane
03:02 <@Andy_J> yeah I see it now
03:02 < i_c-Y> you dont need an explorer extension
03:02 < metagross> no, you can do it right in the folder
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03:02 < _Auron_> well for XP you do
03:02 < metagross> or on the desktop
03:02 <@Andy_J> That's still retarded.
03:02 <@Andy_J> if I shift-rightclick a folder in the tree view it should work
03:02 <@Andy_J> It does not.
03:02 <@Andy_J> Therefore, it's retarded.
03:02 < metagross> no
03:03 <@Andy_J> I shouldn't be required to view the contents of the folder in question or the folder above the folder in question
03:03 <@Andy_J> I should be able to do it from anything visible in the tree view
03:03 < metagross> if you say so.
03:04 <@Andy_J> on that note, I love how ffmpeg says "ok, yeah, you want 1000 kbps video" and then proceeds to output at 1850 kbps
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03:05  * _Auron_ cleans underneath his bed
03:29 < Merthsoft> _Auron_: find a C64?
03:35 < _Auron_> I know where it is.
03:35 < Merthsoft> why hasn't it been sent to me yet?
03:36 < _Auron_> because I never had the sane means of doing so
03:36 < _Auron_> it's fucking huge. I don't have a big enough box to put it in that has adequate padding
03:36 < _Auron_> padding space*
03:37 < _Auron_> if I don't pad it, there's like a 20% guarantee it'll work when it gets to you.
03:37 < _Auron_> and a 90% guarantee it'll have holes in the box between now and when it gets to you.
03:39 < _Auron_> to pad it correctly I'd have to put in a rather large box, which has an oversize fee, and it's heavy, so it's going to be $25-$40 to ship it via USPS. if I ship with UPS, add another $10-20
03:39 < _Auron_> if not more
03:40 < Merthsoft> i'll pay it
03:41 < Merthsoft> you figure out how much it'll cost, i'll paypal you the $$$
03:42 < _Auron_> I'll see about doing that in the next few days
03:42 <+prime_> what are you buying? a c64?
03:43 < _Auron_> prime_: yeah he wants my c64
03:44 < _Auron_> I did manage to find my DS charging cable under my bed though
03:44 < _Auron_> which is where I figured it wasw
03:44 < Merthsoft> woot
03:48 < sir_lewk> damn I love space horror movies
03:48 < _Auron_> lol
03:53 < sir_lewk> all the alien movies
03:53 < sir_lewk> event horizon
03:54 < sir_lewk> whatever this movie is
03:54 < sir_lewk> Sunshine
03:54 < Merthsoft> event horizon <3
03:55 < sir_lewk> yeah
04:02 < sir_lewk> this movie is pretty good too
04:06 < sir_lewk> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminist_science_fiction lulz
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04:06 <@efneTI92> [TheStorm] Yes rivereye, it is time to go fishing.
04:08 < sir_lewk> oh lawdy lew, it's TheStorm
04:10 < TheStorm> 'lo sir_lewk 
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04:22 < millinao> I <3 interactive fiction now
04:26 < sir_lewk> mmm
04:27 < sir_lewk> that was a really good movie
04:27 < sir_lewk> everyone go see sunshine.  kay?
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04:29 < Merthsoft> millinao: IF is sweet
04:30 < Merthsoft> fuck why do tickets to london cost 1000+ dollars
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04:31 < millinao> merthsoft recommend me some good IF not based on other media
04:32 < Merthsoft> http://www.ifarchive.org
04:32 < millinao> k
04:32 < Merthsoft> i don't remember specific titles
04:32 < Merthsoft> :\ sorry
04:33 < Merthsoft> oh waity i've got some on the phone
04:33 < Merthsoft> photobia
04:33 < Merthsoft> all the zorks of course
04:37 < sir_lewk> I think I shall sleep now
04:38 < Merthsoft> night sir_lewk 
04:40 < millinao> bbl
04:48 < Merthsoft> mmmmm sharp ceddar cheese
04:48 < Merthsoft> from vermont
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06:05 < i_c-Y> sup foo
06:06 < _Digital> sup bar
06:06 < _Digital> general linux documentation would've indicated I just did something...
06:06 < i_c-Y> ?
06:07 < _Digital> foo bar
06:07 < i_c-Y> ya
06:07 < _Digital> nvm
06:07 < _Digital> how's it going?
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06:07 < i_c-Y> alright, you?
06:07 < _Digital> most of my voice back
06:07 < i_c-Y> kinda hungry but its 1AM and i dont want to eat now
06:07 < _Digital> your body doesn't give a damn what time it is when it needs fuel
06:08 < _Digital> obey it and don't be dumb :P
06:08 < i_c-Y> but when you're hungry you sleep easier.
06:08 < _Digital> no I don't
06:08 < _Digital> :P
06:09 < _Auron_> I got a bowl of cheerios since I was hungry.
06:09 < _Digital> wise man
06:10 < Nikky> I'm voting republican
06:10 < _Digital> why does Merthsoft's bot have 18 threads?
06:10 < Nikky> mine probably does too
06:11 < _Digital> yours has 20
06:11 < _Digital> both of yours*
06:14 < tr1p1ea> its strange how crazy about politics the us seems, but it isnt compulsory to vote
06:14 < tr1p1ea> over here politics are a chore and voting is compulsory
06:14 < _Digital> tr1p1ea, don't take Nikky as a measure of the whole US, nor the media
06:15 < Nikky> tr1p1ea: merth said you wanted an account on v200?
06:15 < tr1p1ea> he seems like a decent benchmark?
06:15 < _Digital> tr1p1ea, for the insane, yes
06:16 < tr1p1ea> Nikky: did he now?
06:16 < tr1p1ea> news to me
06:16 < Nikky> dunno
06:16 < Nikky> he asked that you did
06:17 < Nikky> for his stuff that needs svn
06:17 < tr1p1ea> ahh right
06:17 < tr1p1ea> well i wont have the time to help out with that stuff anymore
06:17 < tr1p1ea> so i guess its not necessary
06:17 < Nikky> roger
06:19 < Damakaru> Am I supposed to use "PREFIX=/usr" in PKGBUILDs that have a "configure" script?
06:20 < Damakaru> Oops, this can't be right.  *Metas to the right channel.*
06:20 < _Digital> lol
06:24  * _Digital pokes Nikky
06:24 < Nikky> hi
06:24 < _Digital> think I can afford to make larger payments on car loan
06:24 < _Digital> thus I get 17-55 F/2.8 IS a few months sooner
06:24 < Nikky> sweet
06:25 < _Digital> methinks ticalc.org is detecting when I crawl the site and blocking me ;)
06:25 < Nikky> good
06:27 < Damakaru> _Digital:  Are you using Wget?
06:27 < Damakaru> (Last time I tried to use Wget with Ticalc.org, it denied me.)
06:27 < _Digital> no
06:27 < Nikky> ticalc.org is a lame site
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06:34 < _Digital> wtf
06:34 < _Digital> Nikky joined ticalc.org!?!?!
06:35 <@Grue_> zomg
06:35 < Damakaru> Aw, nuts.  I thought the Konversation had been ported.  False alarm.  :(
06:35 < i_c-Y> ported to what, Damakaru 
06:35 < Damakaru> KDE4.
06:38 < Damakaru> K3B, Kaffeine, and Konversation are the three applications I'm waiting for to be ported.
06:40 < _Digital> KDE == fail
06:41 < i_c-Y> evaluates to false.
06:41 <@Grue_> CLI FTW
06:41 < i_c-Y> kde rules
06:42  * _Digital just lost all respect for i_c-Y
06:42 < i_c-Y> :(
06:42 < _Digital> you chose that path, not I
06:43  * chronomex peeks in
06:43 < chronomex> is it worth staying?
06:43 < _Digital> yes
06:44 < Damakaru> _Digital:  Out of curiousity, what turns you off about it?
06:44 < Damakaru> "Curiosity," even.
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06:44 < _Digital> too much like windows
06:45 < _Digital> plus the whole bloat issue
06:46 < _Digital> xfce and lxde shows that aesthetic elegant GUIs don't have to be big
06:46 < chronomex> I like my GUIs like I like my women
06:46 < chronomex> lean and bitchy
06:46 < _Digital> so what do you use?
06:47 < chronomex> that's why X11 is perfect for a man like me
06:47 < _Digital> that isn't lean, that is anorexic
06:47 < chronomex> I use wmii, and my favorite toolkit is Xaw
06:47 < _Digital> :P
06:48 < chronomex> you typed that before you read what I wrote
06:48 <+prime_> fvwm will rule them all
06:48 < _Digital> I typed that and hit enter before you stated your windows manager and toolkit
06:50 < tr1p1ea> Nintendo Wii?
06:50 <+prime_> want to buy mine, i never play it
06:53 < Damakaru> I guess I don't care about bloat so much since I have more RAM than I'll ever use (unless I start playing games anytime soon).
06:53 < tr1p1ea> i have 2
06:53 < _Auron_> I want a wii now since I know how to softmod <_<
06:53 < _Digital> Damakaru, same for processing power?
06:53  * Damakaru nods.
06:53 < tr1p1ea> actually, there are 3 wiis in this house
06:53 < _Auron_> tr1p1ea: lolwut
06:53 < _Digital> and that kind of mindset is why stuff runs like crap today imho
06:54 < tr1p1ea> the 3rd isnt mine however
06:54 < tr1p1ea> it was here when i moved in
06:54 < tr1p1ea> rufl
06:54 < _Auron_> _Digital: amen
06:54 < tr1p1ea> i bought all these games and i dont have any time to play
06:55 < _Digital> _Auron_, we don't need new coding languages, we just need to improve what we have
06:55 < _Digital> and make practices better
06:55 < _Auron_> right
06:55 < tr1p1ea> who needs anything over ASM?
06:55 < _Digital> Kinda like what Apple is doing with Snow Leopard if you want a large scale
06:55 < tr1p1ea> are u with me fellas!?
06:55 < _Auron_> I'm anal about some of my code as it is, using shorts instead of ints
06:55 < _Digital> tr1p1ea, I am 
06:56 < Damakaru> _Digital:  I figure the less optimized the commonly-used software gets, the better the hardware will have to and eventually will get.
06:57 < _Auron_> Damakaru: that's stupid
06:57 < _Digital> Damakaru, is what has happened over the decades of computing
06:57 < _Digital> it takes nearly a minute to boot current computers that are more than 100x faster than those of age
06:57 < Damakaru> And that is why I can afford a decent computer.  :)
06:58 < _Auron_> _Digital: which I hate, and have looked for and used boot optimizations in windows
06:58 < _Auron_> to knock down useless services/processes and boot procedures
06:58 < _Digital> I've done a few things for OS X, workign on Linux right now
06:59 < Damakaru> Why does boot speed matter so much to people?
06:59 < i_c-Y> cause we like to use our computers
06:59 < i_c-Y> not wait for it to boot all day
06:59 < tr1p1ea> cause people turns their pc's off
06:59 < i_c-Y> i use sleep / hibernate mostly
06:59 < Damakaru> Isn't that what hibernation and standby are?
06:59 < Damakaru> -- for?
06:59 < tr1p1ea> thats what you're for
07:00 < i_c-Y> anyhow, people should die. end of story
07:01 < _Digital> that whole thing about getting a netbook to boot in 5 seconds, whould've been standard years back
07:01 < _Digital> and Windows 7 is supposed to be optimizing the boot process too
07:01 < i_c-Y> theres a lot of variables to it.
07:02 < _Digital> no doubt
07:02 < _Digital> Damakaru, so many people look specifically at boot because it is a consistent factor that can be observered
07:02 < _Digital> not like launching individual applications
07:03 < i_c-Y> ssd's make computers boot up practically instantly though.
07:03 < i_c-Y> better disks would be nice
07:03 < _Digital> thanks fo 1ms seek times
07:03 < _Digital> and 250MB/sec reads
07:03 < _Digital> the problem isn't hardware though, it is software
07:03 < _Auron_> xandros on the eeePC is shit
07:04  * _Digital is waiting for his credit card bill to cycle so he can buy a Acer Aspire One
07:05 < _Auron_> I don't have a credit card
07:05 < tr1p1ea> i was thinking about getting a netbook
07:05 < Nikky> KDE sucks i_c-Y 
07:05 < Nikky> _Digital: Yes I did.
07:05 < _Digital> I don't even remember what I asked you Nikky
07:05 < _Digital> unless that is about ticalc.org
07:05 < Nikky> Yes
07:05 < Nikky> I'm accepting bribes
07:06 < _Digital> steal their .zip viewer code
07:06 < tr1p1ea> da; that eepc any good?
07:06 < _Digital> sorry, copy it
07:06 < _Auron_> tr1p1ea: which one?
07:06 < _Auron_> I want the 904HA, badly
07:07 < _Auron_> they don't make the one I have anymore
07:09 <+Netham45> omfg, seriously?
07:09 <+Netham45> ebay is pestering me about a $0.65 fee
07:09 < _Digital> ...?
07:09 < _Digital> pay it you cheapskate 
07:09 <+Netham45> apparantly I sold something and didn't pay the fee back
07:09 <+Netham45> like 3 years ago
07:09 < chronomex> hah
07:09 < chronomex> awesome
07:10 < chronomex> with any luck, they'll report it to the credit bureaus
07:10 < _Digital> lol
07:10  * _Digital watches Netham45's credit drop because he forgot $0.65
07:10 <+Netham45> I don't have any credit
07:11 <+Netham45> at least any offical credit thru a bank or anything
07:11 <+Netham45> shit, man, I'm not even 18!
07:11 < _Digital> it is a joke
07:11 < _Digital> you really are tripping out about this
07:11 < _Digital> watch the rift...
07:11 <+Netham45> huh
07:11 <+Netham45> I'm not tripping out
07:12 < Nikky> _Digital: okay
07:13 < tr1p1ea> Netham45: is this an email>
07:13 < tr1p1ea> ?
07:13 < Damakaru> At least it's not one cent.
07:13 < _Digital> ^
07:13 <+Netham45> tr1p1ea, they're sending me messages over ebay's message thing, which in the end ends up e-mailing me
07:14 < Damakaru> It would be interesting (strange) to see a company sue someone over one cent.
07:15 < _Digital> unless there is something I'm missing, teh Constitution limits teh minimum amount to 20 bucks
07:15  * _Digital pokes Nikky to verify
07:16 < tr1p1ea> Netham45: you sure its actually from ebay?
07:16 < tr1p1ea> and not some user
07:16 <+Netham45> hmm
07:16 <+Netham45> lemme check
07:18 <+Netham45> heh, yea, it is from some user. =/
07:18 < tr1p1ea> :>
07:18 < tr1p1ea> sounded like a skam
07:18 <+Netham45> yea
07:18 <+Netham45> but $0.65?
07:18 < _Auron_> I think I might stay up all night again but this time get energy drinks in the morning.
07:18 < tr1p1ea> inconspicuous amount that most ppl would just pay
07:19 <+Netham45> true...
07:19 <+Netham45> what the fuck
07:19  * Netham45 wants to screenshot this...
07:20 <+Netham45> I ordered something off of ebay, and it went out of stock(grr), and they appologized by sending me a gift card
07:20 <+Netham45> I have an e-mail with a picture of a $5 gift card attached to it
07:20 < chronomex> hahaha
07:20 < chronomex> what
07:20 < tr1p1ea> rofl!
07:21 < _Auron_> lawd
07:21  * Netham45 waits for the paypal refund to go through
07:21 < tr1p1ea> err
07:21 < _Auron_> I'm going to do some more coding tonight, mostly cleanup/structure stuff
07:23 < chronomex> I'm getting upwards of 800kbytes/sec :O
07:23 < _Digital> chronomex, on what?
07:24 < chronomex> I've never seen it run this fast
07:25 < _Digital> bittorrent?
07:25 < chronomex> http
07:25 < chronomex> and it's over wifi too
07:28 < Nikky> _Digital: trie
07:28 < Damakaru> It is the last week for decent-speed Internet for me.
07:30 < Damakaru> Then, it is back to the "City of Theives" with all the pirates and other bandwidth hogs.
07:38  * tr1p1ea looks at some code he wrote for this project a while ago
07:38 < tr1p1ea> what was i tired or something
07:38  * tr1p1ea shakes head
07:38 < tr1p1ea> sigh
07:38 < chronomex> mmm
07:39  * bsparks ought to get into ipod touch dev
07:40  * Damakaru saves up to buy an portable media player that supports module-format music.
07:40 < bsparks> lol music
07:41  * bsparks bought an ipod touch to do just about everything, but music :)
07:41 < bsparks> it just does music, as an extra
07:41 < chronomex> haha
07:41 < Damakaru> I have my laptop for that.  :)
07:41 < _Digital> I'm not sure if I want an iPod or somehting like an Arcos media player
07:41 < bsparks> Damakaru, can your laptop fit in your pocket?
07:42 < _Digital> "Database contains 13131 packages in 151 categories"
07:42 < _Digital> love them numbers
07:42 < Nikky>    Damakaru are you leaving us again?
07:43 < Damakaru> *Shrugs.*
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07:45 < BrandonW> One can only hope, Nikky.
07:45 < Damakaru> bsparks:  You got me there.  But I don't see the point of a portable player for anything else besides media.  After all, that is what I bought the thing for in the first place.  :)
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07:46 < Nikky> BrandonW: How's life?
07:46 < BrandonW> Kinda sucking, so nothing new.
07:46 < Nikky> Get your OrangeDS case?
07:46 < BrandonW> Not yet, I'm planning a trip to get it.
07:46 < BrandonW> It's in good hands.
07:46 < Nikky> When
07:47 < BrandonW> Next couple of months or so.
07:49 < Nikky> k
07:50 < chronomex> who's got it?
07:50 < chronomex> isn't that the one that an ex-girlfriend had?
07:50 < chronomex> or is that someone else?
07:51 < Nikky> speaking of girlfriends
07:51 < BrandonW> Yes, ex-girlfriend has it.
07:51 < chronomex> but you said it was "in good hands"
07:52 < BrandonW> It is...we're on good terms.
07:52 < BrandonW> I used to think she'd melt it down for fun.
07:53 < chronomex> ah, that's good to hear
07:53 < chronomex> right
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07:53 < Nikky> I found one on ebay
07:53 < Nikky> but i melted it down for fun
07:54 < BrandonW> jvndrbrg had one, and his little brother shattered it.
07:54 < Nikky> that hurts
07:54 < chronomex> lame
07:54 < Nikky> You're lamer.
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07:54 < Nikky> my bio is way better than yours
07:54 < chronomex> lame as an end-of-term politician who stepped on a landmine
07:55 < Nikky> haha
07:56 < chronomex> made you laugh lol
07:56 < Nikky> lulz
07:56 < Nikky> you failed us on the planetarium
07:56 < Nikky> it was kind of a lame show tho
07:56 < Nikky> and the 3 color projectors didn't work :(
07:57 < chronomex> really?
07:57 < Nikky> yeah
07:57 < chronomex> what was wrong with them?
07:57 < Nikky> dunno
07:57 < chronomex> will they work for your class on friday?
07:57 < Nikky> the signal was horrible
07:57 < chronomex> o
07:57 < Nikky> well, our movies start enxt week
07:57 < chronomex> aye
07:57 < Nikky> I don't think Apollo 13 is until like the 5th wook
07:57 < Nikky> er, week
07:58 < chronomex> okay
08:00 < BrandonW> I liked that movie.
08:01 < BrandonW> I remember seeing it in the theater.
08:01 < _Auron_> ugh having to redo code is annoying
08:01 < tr1p1ea> yay bug i didnt even know existed fixed :>
08:02 < Damakaru> What are manipulating?
08:02 < Damakaru> (you)
08:03 < _Auron_> me or tr1p?
08:03 < _Auron_> we're both coding and (you) means nothing
08:04 < Damakaru> Both, I guess, for the sake of boredom.
08:04 < tr1p1ea> sake?
08:04 < _Auron_> sake tastes weird
08:05 < Damakaru> Isn't that supposed to be an e-grave?
08:05  * Nikky likes the movie about BrandonW 
08:05 < Nikky> an epic thriller
08:06 < _Auron_> THRILLER THRILLER Thriller thriller thill-er-rrr......
08:06 < Damakaru> Saves the world with a calculator?
08:07  * _Auron_ is listening to music from BioHazard, which he has no idea why he has
08:07 < chronomex> Damakaru: like no other
08:07 < _Auron_> I've never heard of nor played it
08:07 < _Auron_> good music though
08:07 < tr1p1ea> The Number 0x21?
08:07 < _Auron_> I feel like such a nerd, I was instantly able to convert that to decimal in my head.
08:08 < tr1p1ea> :)
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08:08 < _Auron_> now for jet set radio music
08:08 < _Auron_> don't care for the game too much but the music is badass
08:09 < bspod> this works I suppose
08:10 < tr1p1ea> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7816511.stm
08:10 < Damakaru> Again?
08:11 < bsparks> tr1p1ea, that was all over the news this morning
08:11 < bsparks> also, your article lies from what I remember, it was ten MILES not ten km :)
08:12 < tr1p1ea> well it says 6miles/10km
08:12 < bsparks> the news here said 10 miles, and we don't report in km :)
08:12 < tr1p1ea> but still, a 6yr old driving off to school
08:12 < bsparks> yup
08:13 < bsparks> missed the buss
08:13 < tr1p1ea> how do you reach the pedals+see over the steering wheel when you're only 6?
08:13 < _Auron_> The boy told police he learned to drive by playing video games. <-- what, GTA?
08:13 < bsparks> _Auron_, prolly NFS
08:13 < _Auron_> lol
08:13 < Damakaru> "
08:13 < tr1p1ea> everyone is going to assume gta
08:13 < Damakaru> Whew!
08:14 < _Auron_> "Both of his parents have been charged with endangering their child."
08:14 < Damakaru> Thank you, irssi.
08:14 < tr1p1ea> im not sure i agree with the protective custody
08:14 < Damakaru> Anyway, "The boy told police he learned to drive playing Grand Theft Auto and Monster Truck Jam video games. "
08:14 < _Auron_> um
08:14 < _Auron_> he took his dad's keys and left on his own
08:14 < bsparks> tr1p1ea, from that I saw this morning this isn't the first time this boy has done this :)
08:15 < _Auron_> what are they supposed to do, lock the car keys in a safe?
08:15 < tr1p1ea> yeh
08:15 < _Auron_> it's not like they told him to go
08:15 < tr1p1ea> the kid is both smart ... and dumb
08:15 < Damakaru> At least he's concerned about his education.
08:15 < _Auron_> lol
08:19 < Spengo> l4d is fun
08:19 < _Auron_> lol
08:19 < _Auron_> you're like a month and a half late spengo :P
08:19 < Spengo> meh
08:19 < _Auron_> jk
08:19 < _Auron_> my code is not going to compile!
08:20 < Spengo> someone should make a mod, with civvie weapons and more realistic, irons and stuff
08:20 < _Auron_> oh fuck
08:20 < Spengo> also lol @ AR-15 having 50 round magazine
08:20 < Spengo> I don't think that even exists
08:20 < Spengo> there are 100rd ones though... beta-c mags
08:21  * _Auron_ grumbles at his code structure
08:24 < Spengo> I like the epic airplane crash
08:24 < Damakaru> Hmm, I have hit a chink in the planning of my media player.
08:26 < bspod> soo many display bugs
08:27 < Damakaru> ...It probably would not be a great idea to make it depend on Totem... but Totem is the only media player capable of playing all formats including those needed to write a Mod Archive plug-in.  :/
08:28 < tr1p1ea> http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=OpOhEN_5qiA
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09:03 < bsparks> haha, sweet o.o
09:04 < bsparks> I can open up multiple versions of the same app, if I drag the main window of the first iteration to a diferent screen :o
09:04 < _Auron_> ugh
09:05 < _Auron_> sony has a new netbook that's just.... .... delicious
09:05 < _Auron_> but too expensive
09:05 < _Auron_> and insane screen res on 8" screen.... 1600x768, wtf?!?!?
09:05 < bsparks> woah
09:05 < bsparks> oled?
09:05 < _Auron_> dunno
09:06 < _Auron_> http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&categoryId=8198552921644608896#footNote1
09:06 < _Auron_> I want a green one o.O;
09:06 < _Auron_> but not at that price
09:09 < bsparks> ooh
09:10 < bsparks> guitar hero metalica
09:10 < _Auron_> holy shit
09:10 < _Auron_> this guy got hit by some fucktard on their cellphone while he was walking
09:10 < _Auron_> he said he just got out of the hospital
09:10 < _Auron_> and it was a hit and run
09:10 < _Auron_> no witnesses
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09:19 < _Auron_> oh nm, thought he was a regular
09:19 < _Auron_> nm
09:29 < chronomex> from fark: "State to update slogan from 'Don't Mess with Texas' to 'We Warned You' as homeowners gun down would-be burglars at record rate"
09:29 < _Auron_> lol
09:35 < _Auron_> night, committed my stuff for tonight
09:41 < chronomex> good idea
09:41 < chronomex> night
09:42 < bspod> i am growing fond of this method to get on irc
09:43 < bspod>  
09:43 < bspod> whoops
09:43 <+prime_> and what method is that?
09:44 < bspod> ssh to irssi
09:44 < bspod> only isue is i have no batt meter in this app o.o
09:44 <+prime_> well its a step up from nothing
09:46 < bspod> this it is
09:46 < bspod> and i'm typing suprisingly fast and accurate on this kb
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09:50 < bspod> ooh, hot batt meter back
09:50 < bspod> err. got
09:52 < bspod> its like typing on a sidekick, but better
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10:20 < bspod> ok, sleep time
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10:56 < bspod> night benryves 
10:56 <@benryves> 'night bspod
10:57 < bspod> i really need to get a better nick
10:57 <@benryves> iSparks?
10:57 -!- bspod is now known as iSparks
10:57 <@benryves> I wasn't being serious, but if you like. ;)
10:58 < iSparks> thats what i had typed already lol
10:58 < iSparks> err, iSparks that is
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10:59 < iSparks> ugh
10:59 < iSparks> stipid irssi
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11:01 < zeropod> guess irssi likes global nicks?
11:01 < zeropod> oops, 20% batt remaining
11:03 < zeropod> fuckibg irssi
11:04 < zeropod> is there a reason irssi is being retarded?
11:07 < zeropod> this is the worst irc client ever
11:07 < zeropod> i have never seen so many display bugs on any client than this one
11:07 <@benryves> But it's The client of the future™!
11:08 < zeropod> this is rediculous
11:09 < zeropod> it's fucking up mu current chan and the current time so bad
11:09 <@benryves> No T9 dictionary either by the looks of it.
11:10 < zeropod> one line too high so it draws over the last line
11:10 < zeropod> no, full kb and all my poor spelling
11:11 < zeropod> but of i switch channels and come back, is fine, depending on the chan i came frpm
11:12 < zeropod> fucks up lines too long too
11:12 < zeropod> ok, dead batt
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13:10 <@E-J> irssi isn't retard, users are
13:44 <@E-J> benryves: apparently london is cheaper than it used to be?
13:49 < benryves> E-J: How do you mean?
13:51 <@E-J> pound is going down and goverment is thinking to make more money (= pressing)
13:52 < benryves> Ah, old news, the pound is going back up again.
13:52 < benryves> It was a good time to be converting €->£, though. :D
13:56 <@E-J> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puwllq0fBLs
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14:54 < sir_lewk> helloooooo #tcpa
14:54 < benryves> Heya sir_lewk
14:56 < sir_lewk> whoa
14:57 < sir_lewk> did you know that the guy that directed Slumdog Millionare is the same guy that directed 28 days later and trainspotting?
14:57 < sir_lewk> I soo have to see that now
14:58 < benryves> Er, of course. :\
14:58 < benryves> Don't forget Sunshine ;)
14:58 < sir_lewk> ah yes, I saw that last night :)
14:58 < sir_lewk> not quite as good as the other two, but very good
14:59 < benryves> Even if it is a name-referencing Alien/Dark Star rip-off, it is at least pretty.
14:59 < BrandonW> What would have been the problem with sending a communications probe out to let Earth know that Icarus I is a derelict ship out there and continue on their way?
15:00 < sir_lewk> meh, dunno
15:00 < BrandonW> I would think if you mine all the world's nuclear material and have the backing of every government, you make it a priority to be able to send transmissions back to Earth to let us know what's going on.
15:00 < sir_lewk> did they have a probe?
15:00 < BrandonW> They never implied they did, but they most definitely should have.
15:01 < BrandonW> "Hey, ship's still here, payload's intact, just in case you don't hear from us." That's all they had to send.
15:01 < sir_lewk> I guess they decided to go to the Icarus I because they wanted a second bomb to use
15:02 < BrandonW> That's not their job.
15:02 < BrandonW> They go use their own bomb.
15:02 < BrandonW> If they fail, Earth can go retrieve the second one.
15:02 < BrandonW> They strayed from their mission.
15:02 < sir_lewk> yeah
15:02 < BrandonW> That kind of insubordination is unacceptable.
15:02 < sir_lewk> the whole affair was definetly a bad case of Murphy's law
15:03 < BrandonW> It's a case of stupidity.
15:03 < BrandonW> The doctor on the Icarus II was showing signs of going nuts, too.
15:03 < sir_lewk> well, I liked th movie
15:03 < sir_lewk> yeah
15:03 < BrandonW> Frying himself in the observation room.
15:04 < sir_lewk> truth
15:04 < sir_lewk> grr
15:05 < sir_lewk> maybe I'm just being picky, but if ubuntu is going to push updates for openssh, I'd *really* love it if they didn't do it with a blank developer changelog...
15:06 < sir_lewk> especially if it's clearly just a new build/patch from ubuntu, not anything new from the openssh team
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15:13 < sir_lewk> I'm sure they are all very professional and thorough, but if the changelog where to say something to the effect of "hey guys, we patched this because some lowly debian packager ran an automated tool on it and found a buffer overflow that the openssl team has somehow been missing for all these years.  Oh by the way, we didn't consult with the actual developers, we just fixed it", then I might be a little hesitant to apply it
15:15 < sir_lewk> no, I'm just being silly.  that would never happen.
15:17 < sir_lewk> </rant>
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15:31 <@E-J> hmmm, i bought accidentally "anti-hangover elixir" from ship
15:32 <@E-J> accidentally since i don't drink alcohol
15:32 <@E-J> taste is like normal energy drink but this smells like meat
15:33 < sir_lewk> eww
15:33 < sir_lewk> that sounds dreadful, I wonder what it's made of
15:33 < ports-> hiyo
15:34 < sir_lewk> heylo ports- 
15:34 < ports-> sup
15:34 <@E-J> http://www.resurrectme.com/ should be its website but i got only network timeout
15:36 <@E-J> r2esurrect is name
15:36 <@E-J> or r^2 esurrect
15:37 < sir_lewk> I haven't had a caffienated beverage in 2 days, the withdrawl headache is killing me :(
15:37 <@E-J> apparently this is manufactured in san diego
15:38 < sir_lewk> hmm, interesting
15:38 < sir_lewk> it's probably classified as some sort of herbal junk
15:39 < ports-> sir_lewk:  me neither
15:39 < ports-> tuesday at lunch was my last caffeine drink
15:39 <@E-J> "daily detox and health beverage"
15:39 < sir_lewk> oh wow, it's thursday already
15:39 < ports-> cuz tuesday after lunch i had some cavities filled.. and wednesday morning i had my wisdom teeth removed.
15:39 < sir_lewk> ouch
15:40 < ports-> it wasnt so bad
15:40 < sir_lewk> at least you get vicadine or whatever
15:40 < ports-> they have me an IV anesthetic, nitrous oxide, and 2 other pain med injections... i didnt feel a thing during the surgery.
15:40 < ports-> and i woke up after.. it took me about 15 minutes to burn it all off.. and i drove myself home
15:40 < sir_lewk> yeah, same here
15:41 < ports-> i havent needed my vicodin...
15:41 < sir_lewk> it was like, "100, 99, 98..." *5 seconds elapse* *open eyes* "where the fuck am I?!?"
15:41 < ports-> ive just taken some tylenol here and there and the antibiotic
15:42 < ports-> weak ass
15:42 < sir_lewk> :P
15:42 < ports-> they IV'd me, and i was getting nitrous.. and stuck me with the 2 injections, and it took me about 10 minutes to go under..
15:43 < sir_lewk> they IV'd me and injected me, then about 5 minutes later gave me nitrous and that knocked me out
15:43 < ports-> the nurse was like hey im going to give you some oxygen..
15:43 < ports-> and i was like wait a minute.. the air smells funny.. what are you giving me?
15:44 < sir_lewk> haha
15:44 < sir_lewk> the IV freaked me out
15:45 < sir_lewk> when they opened it they we all, "you veins are going to feel a little cold.."
15:45 < sir_lewk> it was a bit of an understatment, it felt like they were filling me with liquid nitrogen
15:47 <@E-J> http://snewzbutton.com/2009/01/08/apple-unveils-iphone-shuffle-at-macworld/
15:47 < sir_lewk> mmm, vimdiff rocks my socks
15:48 < sir_lewk> wait, wat?
15:48 < sir_lewk> what does that do, call random people?
15:50 < ports-> oh
15:50 < ports-> sir_lewk:  hospital/doctor stuff doesnt bother me
15:50 < ports-> i just hopped into the chair and was like lets get this bitch done
15:51 < ports-> haha.. im never going to get any work done now.. i just found drug wars for my blackberry
15:53 < sir_lewk> -lulz
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15:56 < millinao> HI
15:56 < Merthsoft> hi benryves 
16:00 < ports-> meh.. trying to eat sucks
16:02 < benryves> 'lo Merthsoft
16:02 < Merthsoft> my ears are wet :\
16:04 < ports-> some taking cock in them
16:04 < Merthsoft> wait
16:04 < Merthsoft> what?
16:04 < sir_lewk> haha
16:04 < sir_lewk> ear-fucked
16:05 < sir_lewk> I'd presume
16:05 < sir_lewk> sounds quite horrible
16:07 < ports-> lol
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16:20 < Ox40Work> Do eggdrops have a mode that automatically increases ban lengths if the person trys to join the channel?
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16:21 < sir_lewk> http://www.woz.org/letters/general/78.html lmao
16:21  * sir_lewk drops an egg on Ox40Work
16:21 < sir_lewk> I dunno, you tell me
16:22 <+kirsk> omnomnom egg
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16:31 <@efneTI92> [i_c-Y] Say one word, I'll laugh and bury you
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16:56 < Ox40Work> computer parts... coming today!
17:01 < Nikky> well, twitter is lame now
17:01 < Nikky> kerm got one
17:04 < ports-> im on twitter
17:04 < ports-> are you nikky?
17:05 < sir_lewk> doubly lame now
17:05 < benryves> http://twitter.com/michael_bay >_>
17:05 < sir_lewk> who is michael bay?
17:05 < benryves> Director of crappy films, chiefly.
17:05 < ports-> benryves:  die
17:05 < ports-> he directed Transformers..
17:05 < ports-> one of the best movies of 2008
17:05 < benryves> 'nuff said.
17:06 < sir_lewk> yeah really
17:06 < sir_lewk> was not that great
17:06 < ports-> benryves:  i will cut you up into little ieces and glue you back together like a picasso
17:06 < Nikky> transformers was lamesauce
17:06 < sir_lewk> actually, it would have been terrible if not for the relatively weak CGI
17:06 < Ox40Work> Im about to win my tv tuner card!!!!
17:06 < ports-> see
17:06 < ports-> i have fun friends on twitter
17:06 < benryves> What CGI? You couldn't see it behind the camera shake.
17:06 < ports-> "Wearing bra that the straps fall down constantly, but if you tighten them, the ta-ta's fall out the bottom. You know you have that bra too."
17:07 < Nikky> ports-: Are you Ox40Work?
17:07 < ports-> Nikky:  no
17:07 < benryves> sir_lewk: I guess that means you missed http://my.spill.com/profiles/blog/show?id=947994%3ABlogPost%3A355506 too. :)
17:07 < Ox40Work> O.o
17:07 < ports-> Nikky:  twitter.com/ports
17:07 < Ox40Work> <Nikky> ports-: Are you Ox40Work?
17:07 < Ox40Work> ??
17:08 < sir_lewk> ugh
17:09 < Ox40Work> sir_lewk: *hug*
17:09 < sir_lewk> why the hell would you make a flag CGI?!?
17:09 < sir_lewk> movies were better when CGI didn't exist
17:09 < benryves> RIP Stan Winston :(
17:10 < sir_lewk> holy shit that script is terrible
17:10 < benryves> sir_lewk: You do realise it's a joke, right? :P
17:10 < sir_lewk> yeah :P
17:12 <+kirsk> nonsense, older cgi = better
17:12 <+kirsk> see jurassic park
17:13 < benryves> Terminator 2, The Abyss
17:13 < benryves> I suppose then it was generally used for *special* effects, ie in moderation.
17:13 <+kirsk> yeah
17:14 < benryves> Starship Troopers has phenomenal CGI for 1997, for that matter.
17:15 <+kirsk> oh ST too
17:15 <+kirsk> *oh yeah
17:15 < Ox40Work> kirsk: Jurassic Park is amazing for the time it was made
17:15 < Ox40Work> It looked REALLY reall
17:15 <+kirsk> oh its still amazing
17:15 < sir_lewk> 99% of CGI just looks like shit 6 months after the movie is released.  if the movie relies on CGI instead of a solid plot or acting, like so many movies do, then it's going to suck later on
17:15  * benryves idly wonders what Verhoeven is up to at the moment.
17:15 < sir_lewk> and Jurassic Park was mostly animatronics, not CGI
17:16 <+kirsk> animatronics were used in close ups and stuff, the fullbody shots of trex and groups of dinos were cgi
17:16 < sir_lewk> well yeah
17:17 < benryves> sir_lewk: Heh, " if the movie relies on CGI instead of a solid plot or acting" - The Lawnmower Man? :P
17:17 <+kirsk> which looked great, especially compared to things like Failformers and the new Indiana Jones which look like shitty videogames with nothing but BLOOM and camera fade
17:17 < Nikky> CGI sucks
17:17 < sir_lewk> haven't seen it
17:18 < Nikky> Unless you're talking about perl
17:18 < sir_lewk> but consider something like iron man vs the dark knight
17:18 < Nikky> which is awesomeest ever
17:18 < sir_lewk> obviously the dark knight was a far better movie, but just think about in 10 years
17:18 < Nikky> yeah, iron man had much better acting
17:18 < sir_lewk> lolwat
17:19 < sir_lewk> iron man's CGI will look like shit while the dark knight will still be a great movie because it kept it to a minimum
17:19 <+kirsk> how was tdk far better?
17:19 < sir_lewk> better acting and plot imho
17:19 < benryves> kirsk: Ah, yes, the Indiana Jones that they promised us would use minimal CGI (and where the one of the first scenes is a CGI gopher). :P
17:19 < sir_lewk> lol
17:20 <+kirsk> i thought they were both equally good but tdk had awesome ledger and iron man had cute assistant girl
17:20 < sir_lewk> I haven't seen that one, nor do I intend on it
17:20 < sir_lewk> yeah, assistant girl was cute as hell >.>
17:20 < benryves> sir_lewk: Well, they've been alternately good and bad so maybe the next one would be nice.
17:20 <+kirsk> indiana jones looked like a current gen bloom/blurfest platform game with some film shots rendered into it
17:21 < sir_lewk> I didn't think temple of doom was that bad personally
17:21 < benryves> But what else do you expect from George Lucas?
17:21  * sir_lewk hates on george lucas hard
17:21 <+kirsk> sir_lewk im talking about the new one, crystal skull
17:21 < benryves> sir_lewk: Short Round.
17:21 < sir_lewk> early stuff == superb
17:21 < sir_lewk> kirsk: yeah I know
17:22 < sir_lewk> I was refering to the "alternating good and bad" comment
17:22 < benryves> sir_lewk: American Graffiti, THX 1138? Or Star Wars?
17:22 <+kirsk> ok
17:22 < sir_lewk> yeah, is old stuff is excellent
17:22 < sir_lewk> new stuff is just a CGI clusterfuck
17:22 < benryves> The best Star Wars was #5, ie the one he didn't direct. :P
17:22 < sir_lewk> lol, yeah
17:22 < Nikky> #5 was horrible
17:22 < sir_lewk> #5 and #4 are both up there for me
17:23 < Nikky> too much romance
17:23 < Nikky> 4 was by far the best eve
17:23 < Nikky> disagree and die
17:23 <+kirsk> speaking of movies, i saw 3:10 to Yuma saturday and thought it was awesome
17:23 < sir_lewk> #6 had too many ewoks >.>
17:23 < Nikky> who cares
17:23 < Nikky> shut up
17:23 < sir_lewk> I still need to see that
17:23 < Nikky> newbazoid
17:23 <+kirsk> my dumb friend didnt understand half of it though
17:23 < sir_lewk> I should get a copy of There Will be Blood
17:24 < Nikky> YOur alter ego kirsk?
17:24 < sir_lewk> I only saw a pirated version that was out of order
17:24 <+kirsk> no i wish cause then my alter ego had a nice gf ; )
17:24 < sir_lewk> though it was out of order in a *really* good way
17:24 <+kirsk> TWbB? is that any good?
17:24 < sir_lewk> yeah
17:24 < sir_lewk> really good
17:24 < sir_lewk> maybe that's just because I saw it in a messed up way though
17:25 < sir_lewk> basically turned half the movie into a flashback
17:26 < sir_lewk> right before he killed the priest (in the middle of the movie), the rest of the movie came in, all out of order and confused, then he killed him and it ended
17:26 < sir_lewk> apparently that's not how it was supposed to be, but I really liked it
17:26 <+kirsk> hehe
17:26 <+kirsk> i thought it was something like saw
17:26 <+kirsk> judging solely by the title
17:27 < sir_lewk> hmm, I didn't like saw
17:27 <+kirsk> well theyre horrible movies
17:27 < sir_lewk> didn't seem all that original
17:27 <+kirsk> only the ending of the first was pretty cool
17:27 < sir_lewk> like, the whole "he doesn't want us to cut through the chain" part is pretty much straight out of Watchmen
17:28 <+kirsk> and some scenes of the goth assistant chick
17:28 < benryves> sir_lewk: Did the trailer sell the film at all well? (It looked incredibly dull).
17:28 < sir_lewk> stuff like that
17:28 < sir_lewk> benryves: of TWbB?
17:28 < benryves> sir_lewk: Aye.
17:28 < Nikky> http://nykida.net/ticalc.png
17:28 < sir_lewk> I never saw the trailer, maybe an ad or two on tv, but it was really good imho
17:29 <+kirsk> does TWbB have any cool actors / characters in it?
17:29 < sir_lewk> no violent like the name might suggest, but it was pretty compelling
17:29 < sir_lewk> the priest and the oil guy were both good I thought
17:29 < sir_lewk> especially in the end
17:29 < sir_lewk> not sure who they were, but the acting was pretty convincing I thought
17:30 < benryves> Daniel Day Lewis?
17:30 < sir_lewk> hmm, not sure
17:30 <+kirsk> I need some kickass/awesome character(s) in movies of that setting (western) to enjoy it
17:31 < sir_lewk> the Dollars series
17:31 < benryves> Only Western I've really enjoyed is Il buono, il brutto, il cattivo.
17:31 < sir_lewk> yeah :)
17:31 < sir_lewk> clint eastwood ftw
17:31 <+kirsk> the old ones arent for me
17:32 < sir_lewk> Open Range was pretty good
17:32 < sir_lewk> very violent recent western
17:32 < benryves> Oh, and Deadwood, but that's a TV series. ;)
17:33 < sir_lewk> No Country For Old Men, though that's set in modern times
17:33 < sir_lewk> really good movie though
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17:33 < benryves> The crap "ending" destroyed it for me. :\
17:33 -!- mode/#tcpa [+v smealum] by efneTI85
17:33 < sir_lewk> haha, I loved it
17:34 < sir_lewk> it was kind of disturbing in the same way that Funny Games was, though much much less so
17:34 < benryves> I didn't find it disturbing, just disappointing. :P
17:34 < sir_lewk> ah
17:35 < sir_lewk> it felt harshly blunt to me
17:35 < sir_lewk> like "No hollywood ending for you!" (in the soup nazi's voice) )
17:35 < sir_lewk> ;)
17:36 < benryves> Brazil (the UK version) probably has my favourite ending of all time.
17:36 < sir_lewk> hmm, I still need to see that one
17:37 < benryves> (As opposed to the "love conquers all" version they show on TV).
17:38 <+kirsk> hmm have you seen The Mist?
17:38 < benryves> The Fog, not The Mist.
17:38 < sir_lewk> no, that's based of the Stephen King short story right?
17:38 <+kirsk> yeah
17:38 <+kirsk> grimdark ending is grimdark
17:39 < sir_lewk> that's the sort story that inspired halflife ;)
17:39 <+kirsk> heh cool
17:39 < sir_lewk> I read it in middleschool, then later played halflife and was like "hmm, this seems kinda familarish"
17:39 <+kirsk> i heard the ending is different in the movie though
17:39 < sir_lewk> dunno
17:39 <+kirsk> i thought it was awesome
17:40 < sir_lewk> apparently stephen king hated the short story
17:40 < sir_lewk> thought the main character was a despisable pussy or something
17:40 < sir_lewk> I liked it anyways
17:40 <+kirsk> hmm he wasnt a pussy at all in the movie, just a nice dad guy
17:41 < ports-> im hungry
17:41 < sir_lewk> in the story he never went back to his house to see if his wife was still alive
17:41 <+kirsk> he did in the movie
17:41 < sir_lewk> ah, interesting
17:41 <+kirsk> i think you should see it : )
17:41 < benryves> I'm not sure what my favourite King adaptation is. :| The Shining or The Dead Zone are close contenders.
17:41 < sir_lewk> maybe stephen king demanded that that part should be fixed
17:42 < sir_lewk> I think I will :)
17:42 <+kirsk> hmm i wouldnt be surprised if he did
17:42 <+kirsk> it kicks of really fast too
17:42 <+kirsk> compared to most movies
17:42 < sir_lewk> cool
17:42 < sir_lewk> I'll rent it this weekend methinks
17:43 <+kirsk> it goes like "ok theres this family in a town and oh a supermarket and then wtf oh shit oh shit oh shit"
17:43 < sir_lewk> yeah, sounds like the story :)
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17:46 <+kirsk> i think ill have to watch it again with some friends
17:52 < sir_lewk> shitfuck I have a bad headache
17:54 <+kirsk> : (
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18:15 < Ox40Work> I only have $152 to my name at the moment
18:15 < Ox40Work> and $750 on my Credit Card, along with $360 in bills to pay
18:15 <+kirsk> -929
18:15 <+kirsk> lulz
18:15 < i_c-Y> well you bought a 300+ dollar computer so that kinda contributes.
18:15 < i_c-Y> did get the parts yet, Ox40Work ?
18:16 < Ox40Work> i_c-Y: yeah, that's why my CC is maxed out
18:16 < Ox40Work> i_c-Y: I got 1 package yesterday (of 4)
18:16 < Ox40Work> it is the most BEAUTIFUL motherboard I have ever seen
18:16 < Ox40Work> its literally pretty. :)
18:16 < benryves> ...
18:16 < Ox40Work> But, yeah, my other 3 packages just got delivered like, 10 minutes ago
18:17 < Ox40Work> So, computer assembly tonight!!!
18:17 < Ox40Work> Now, I have to find the right OS
18:17 <@E-J> http://slarto.shelli.fi/pic/1230324929321.jpg
18:17 < benryves> I hope you have a floppy drive to install DOS 6.22.
18:17 < Ox40Work> why?
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18:18 < benryves> Ox40Work: Best OS ever!
18:18 < Ox40Work> lol E-J
18:18 < Ox40Work> Its a media center PC benryves...
18:18 < Ox40Work> DOS might not be the best idea ;)
18:18 < benryves> I'd go for Vista Home Premium/Ultimate, then.
18:19 < Ox40Work> That will cost more than my computer did ;)
18:19 < i_c-Y> no it wont.
18:19 < Ox40Work> Im thinking MythTV
18:19 < i_c-Y> vista home premium is a pretty good bet for a media center pc
18:20 < Ox40Work> $$$$$$$$
18:20 < Ox40Work> Look up, I am completely broke
18:20 < i_c-Y> like you werent going to pirate windows anyway
18:20 < Ox40Work> :P
18:20 < Ox40Work> heh, but vista would be difficult
18:20 < Ox40Work> plus, this is internet-enabled
18:20 < Ox40Work> so, I dont want to have to deal with that ;)
18:20 < i_c-Y> SLIC emulation makes it a joke
18:20 < i_c-Y> just install and patch
18:21 < Ox40Work> So, MythTV soulds good to me.
18:21 < i_c-Y> not that im condoning piracy
18:21 < Ox40Work> i_c-Y: SLIC?
18:21 < benryves> Home Premium is pretty cheap, $94.99 for an upgrade.
18:21  * Damakaru cringes.
18:21 < i_c-Y> the piracy of vista works by taking the oem copy and faking a small section of the bios 
18:22 < benryves> (Shame an upgrade from Business to Ultimate is well over £100, though, grr).
18:22 < Damakaru> I think I just heard my wallet roll over in its shelf.
18:22 <+kirsk> why vista and not xp?
18:23 < benryves> Media Center?
18:23 < i_c-Y> kirsk: cause vista mc kicks ass?
18:24 <@Andy_J> ^
18:24 <@Andy_J> I hate windows (especially vista) but I'll be the first to tell you that vista's media center is pretty damn good
18:24 < Damakaru> Does it really take that much just to watch some videos on a computer these days?
18:24 <@Andy_J> Damakaru: TV tuning and recording, nub
18:25 <@Andy_J> every other PVR program I've tried required too much fussing around with to get it to work decently
18:25 <@Andy_J> windows media center just needed to know my zip code and what service provider I have
18:25 <@Andy_J> and everything else Just Worked
18:25 <@Andy_J> no fighting with getting it to see the tuner or the remote
18:26 <+kirsk> eh every program ive tried worked immedeately
18:26 <@Andy_J> and I can use my 360 as a media center extender so I can watch recorded shit in other rooms
18:26 < benryves> kirsk: Really? All the ones I've tried have been slow, crash-prone or fail to see the tuner (which has bog standard BDA drivers). :(
18:26 <@Andy_J> and Ox40Work, for what it's worth, the vista pirating shit works just fine, no issues
18:27 <@Andy_J> I do have a legal copy of vista but I'm using it cracked in case I decide I wish to use my copy on another computer instead at a later date, without having to dance through the stupid hoops microsoft has.
18:27 <+kirsk> i would probably try vista mc and then some linux mcs
18:27 < benryves> I'm stuck using the bundled software, which makes Windows 3.1 look modern (and doesn't even deinterlace the video).
18:28 < Damakaru> It's probably not such a good idea to admit that.  :P
18:28 < i_c-Y> im using a legal copy of vista :)
18:28 < i_c-Y> it came wiht my laptop
18:28 <@Andy_J> Damakaru: it's not like their activation shit is 100% legal anyway
18:29 < benryves> I'm using the OEM copy, so have yet to bother activating.
18:29 < benryves> (I'm not sure why, as with OEM copies of XP I had to reactivate after reinstalling, but not with the copy of Vista I have. No matter). :P
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18:30 < i_c-Y> benryves is on a dell. it takes care of itself.
18:30 <@Andy_J> I'm being a good little person and only using it on one machine like I'm licensed to do. I just don't want to deal with their bullshit.
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18:33 < sir_lewk> the activations stuff is bullshit anyways
18:33 < Ox40Work> Think I can pirate Vista Media Center Easily?!
18:33 <@Andy_J> ^
18:33 < Ox40Work> s/!//
18:34 <@Andy_J> Ox40Work: No, because it's only part of the OS
18:34 < sir_lewk> when I was working at a local OEM during the summer, maybe %5
18:34 <@Andy_J> I would not recommend pirating it at all.
18:34 < sir_lewk> *5% of the machines wouldn't authenticate except over the phone
18:34 <@Andy_J> but if you've got a legal copy and don't want to put up with the bullshit, go for it
18:35 < sir_lewk> keys that Microsoft gave us
18:35 <@Andy_J> sir_lewk: if it's an actual OEM they should have an OEM version that doesn't need to activate <_<
18:35 < sir_lewk> no, the local schools like to buy their own copies a lot of the time
18:35 < sir_lewk> otherwise we did have our own copy
18:35 <@Andy_J> then they have to install it
18:35 < sir_lewk> yeah
18:35 <@Andy_J> because THEY have to accept the license
18:35 < Ox40Work> So, vista Media Center Edition != pirateable?
18:35 < Ox40Work> or am I reading wrong?
18:36 <+kirsk> no, OEM doesnt have to be shipped with a complete PC/laptop so you cant truely tie it to a machine untill it's actually being installed
18:36 <@Andy_J> Ox40Work: there is no such thing.
18:36 <@Andy_J> media center is in home premium and ultimate
18:36 < i_c-Y> Ox40Work: you need to get vista home premium or vista ultimate.
18:36 < Ox40Work> awersome
18:36 < Ox40Work> so Its basically just a program included with them?
18:36 < i_c-Y> yes.
18:36  * Andy_J got ultimate for $90 the day before he graduated
18:36 < i_c-Y> hit start, then type in media center , hit enter
18:36 < i_c-Y> or media c, cause media will go to windows media player
18:37 <@Andy_J> though they didn't even give me a choice to get 64-bit
18:37 <@Andy_J> and they split the charges, $30 for the fucking disc and $60 for the license
18:37 < i_c-Y> Andy_J: that's because you get both with ultimate. 
18:37 <@Andy_J> i_c-Y: no, only one disc, and it's x86 only
18:37 < sir_lewk> depending on the school we'd either just use our OEM copy, send a spreadsheet to microsoft with vista numbers and get one back with the equivilant XP downgrades, install copies the school had lying around, or just install vista
18:37 < i_c-Y> i have anytime upgrade discs, so i installed amd64
18:37 < i_c-Y> Andy_J: well, your key will work with amd64 discs too
18:37 < Damakaru> I say, try something like MythTV first, and if that doesn't work for you, then try the other alternative...
18:37 <@Andy_J> they literally just give you a sleeve with a DVD in it with a key sticker on it
18:38 <+kirsk> MythBuntu
18:38 <@Andy_J> anyway, about the split charges
18:38 < i_c-Y> call microsoft to tell them to give you the disc
18:38 <@Andy_J> if I would have known that before they swiped teh card I would have told them to only sell me the key
18:38 <@Andy_J> I'llg et the disc via other means
18:38 <@Andy_J> (because copying the disc itself is 100% legal)
18:39 <@Andy_J> i_c-Y: meh.
18:39 < sir_lewk> the disks we got were wrapped in like a gazzillion legal documents printed on little sticker seals
18:39 < sir_lewk> it was pretty comical
18:39 <@Andy_J> I don't erally want 64bit anyway
18:39 < i_c-Y> Andy_J: well, if you want it, get the anytime upgrade discs
18:39 < i_c-Y> thats how i installed 64 bit
18:39 <@Andy_J> but the bastards didn't give me a choice
18:42 < sir_lewk> just get a mac
18:42 < sir_lewk> duh
18:42 < sir_lewk> macs give you tons of choice
18:42 <+kirsk> and by tons you mean 0
18:43 < i_c-Y> !k sir_lewk picking on mac users is the same thing as hunting endangered species. 
18:43 < sir_lewk> zero is a number too, don't be hatin on it
18:43 < i_c-Y> damn it efneti86
18:43 < sir_lewk> haha
18:43 <+kirsk> some endangered species should be hunted to extinction
18:43 < sir_lewk> like many endangered species, mac users look kinda funny ;P
18:44 <+kirsk> like pandas. dumb things cant even not kill their own babies by accidentally sitting on them
18:44 < Ox40Work> So, will I be able to get updates or no?
18:44 < sir_lewk> it's just odd to me that mac osx could rock so hard and suck so hard at the same time
18:45 < sir_lewk> Ox40Work: what jou talking about?
18:45 < Ox40Work> vista
18:45 <+kirsk> osx rocks hard?
18:45 < i_c-Y> yes
18:45 < Damakaru> OS X "socks."
18:45 < i_c-Y> you will be able to update
18:45 < sir_lewk> OSX does rock hard. it is UNIX (tm)
18:46 < sir_lewk> with a freebsd userland
18:46 < sir_lewk> then again, the complete lack of user options for the desktop enviroment sucks
18:46 <+kirsk> the kernel may be fine but the ui is retarded
18:47 < sir_lewk> agreed
18:47 < sir_lewk> kernel and userland
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18:47 < sir_lewk> hahaha
18:47 < Ox40Work> I will be able to update my pirated vista? O.o
18:47 < i_c-Y> ya
18:47 < sir_lewk> Ox40Work: Buy a copy.
18:47 <+kirsk> yay hacks
18:47 < sir_lewk> or diaf
18:47 < i_c-Y> not saying that piracy is right. buy a copy
18:47 < Ox40Work> i_c-Y: really?
18:47 <+kirsk> but why update?
18:48 < i_c-Y> i_c-Y is anti-piracy.
18:48 < i_c-Y> Ox40Work: really.
18:48 < Ox40Work> kirsk: why not? :P
18:48 < Ox40Work> i_c-Y: why would M$ allow that?
18:48 < i_c-Y> ask Andy_J 
18:48 <+kirsk> because it adds bugs?
18:48  * sir_lewk *hates* windows piracy with a firey passion
18:48 < i_c-Y> Ox40Work: because its safer for the general population?
18:48 < i_c-Y> theres an article about it when they introduced WGA on the microsoft site somewhere.
18:48 < Ox40Work> i_c-Y: really?
18:48 < i_c-Y> really.
18:48 < sir_lewk> if you like your godawful OS so much, you should pay for it.
18:49 <+kirsk> because updating gets in the way of actually using the os?
18:49 < i_c-Y> go find the article and read it
18:49 < Ox40Work> i_c-Y: hmm, I might
18:49 < sir_lewk> seriously, buy the damn OS or use one that's legally free.
18:49 < Damakaru> *Utters something about piraters sued by Microsoft via WGA.*
18:49 <+kirsk> sir_lewk we pay for it by spending many days finding 3rd party software that makes it not suck so much
18:49 < i_c-Y> Damakaru: mass piraters. ie people who sell it.
18:50 < sir_lewk> kirsk: no. fail.
18:50 < i_c-Y> microsoft isnt like the RIAA.
18:50 < Ox40Work> im just trying to decide, MythTV or Vista
18:50 < i_c-Y> they go after the big fish. ie people who sell it.
18:50 <+kirsk> software ironically inspired by mentioned free OSes but ok
18:50 < i_c-Y> vista is superior.
18:50 < sir_lewk> mythtv is non-trivial to set up from what I hear
18:50 <+kirsk> mythbuntuuuuuu
18:50 < sir_lewk> but if you are unwilling to spend money to legally aquire vista, go with myth
18:51 < sir_lewk> kirsk: is that nice?  I haven't used such things before?
18:51 < i_c-Y> like all *buntu its a piece of shit
18:51 < Ox40Work> heh
18:51 < Ox40Work> so, vista "legally" it is?
18:51 < i_c-Y> yes
18:51 < sir_lewk> yes.  legally.
18:51 < Damakaru> Or MythDora:  http://www.mythpvr.com/mythtv/distribution/mythdora/4/install-1.html
18:51 < i_c-Y> mythtv sucks.
18:52 < sir_lewk> mythtv doesn't do HDTV last I heard
18:52 < sir_lewk> if that matters to you
18:52 < sir_lewk> who knows what kind of DRM or whatever vista slaps onto your stuff for you though
18:52 < i_c-Y> neither does vista.
18:53 < i_c-Y> sir_lewk is just an ignorant bugger, so just ignore him. :)
18:53 <+kirsk> i would probably just install winxp pro with mpc:hc and a wireless ps2-like gamepad with software to use it as a mouse
18:53 < sir_lewk> blah, I never claimed to know much about this
18:53 < Damakaru> sir_lewk:  It supports it.  But it's "rather complicated" to set up.
18:53 < sir_lewk> just don't pirate vista or I will hate on you like a cake
18:53 < Ox40Work> :P
18:53 < sir_lewk> and I hate on cakes pretty hard
18:53 <+kirsk> well thats the best reason ive ever had to get vista
18:54 < Ox40Work> kirsk: mpc:hc?
18:54 <+kirsk> media player classic homecinema
18:54 < Ox40Work> O.o
18:54 < Ox40Work> I was using Media Portal
18:54 < Ox40Work> Im just wondering what would be easiest / cheapest
18:54 < Ox40Work> MythDora might be te winner
18:54 < Ox40Work> winnar winnar
18:55 < sir_lewk> winrar is not the winnar ;P
18:55 <+kirsk> what i wonder is why get a seperate pc for mc stuff
18:56 < Ox40Work> kirsk: because.... my tv is too low-def to use the computer for anything but MC stuff
18:56 < Ox40Work> But, MythDora Winrar!
18:56 < sir_lewk> oh noes!
18:56 <+kirsk> Ox40Work: huh?
18:57 < Ox40Work> I think I might go with MythDora / MythBuntu or something of the line
18:57 < Ox40Work> s/line/like.
18:57 < Ox40Work> but, I want to be able to get stuff like Netflix online, which I think is only IE
18:57 <+kirsk> virtual pc with win xp pro + ie7
18:58 < Damakaru> IEs4Linux.
18:58 < i_c-Y> Ox40Work: why dont you also connect it to a monitor?
18:59 < Ox40Work> i_c-Y: I might :X
18:59 < i_c-Y> so you can use it for regular stuff
18:59 < Ox40Work> Damakaru: IEs4Linux?
18:59 < i_c-Y> cause its probably faster than your current computer
18:59 < Ox40Work> i_c-Y: IDK, my current computer kicks ass
18:59 < sir_lewk> I'm not sure IEs4Linux can do netflix though
18:59 < Ox40Work> 2.8GHz 2GB ram, etc etc
18:59 < i_c-Y> Ox40Work: what processor?
18:59 < Ox40Work> AMD Athlon64 2800+
18:59 <+kirsk> 2.8 p4 sucks :P
18:59 < i_c-Y> Ox40Work: this will murder it
19:00 < Ox40Work> i_c-Y: :P
19:00 <+kirsk> 2800 @ 2.8ghz???
19:00 < sir_lewk> supposedly netflix is going to switch to silverlight for mac people, so maybe that will be an option
19:00 < Ox40Work> kirsk: more like 2.4
19:00 < Ox40Work> but comprable to 2.8GHz intel
19:00 < Damakaru> sir_lewk/Ox40Work:  If Netflix works in IE6 (which I'm sure it does because there's still many people that use it), then it should.
19:00 < Ox40Work> hmmm
19:00 <+kirsk> not comparable to 8500 @ 2.8ghz
19:00 < Damakaru> IEs4Linux also has an (exparamental) IE7 rendering engine.
19:00 <+kirsk> comparable to P4 2.8 ghz yes
19:00 < sir_lewk> I'm pretty sure it ties into a bunch of windows media player DRM shit though
19:01 < sir_lewk> I have netflix so I can test stuff later when I'm not at work.  I kind of doubt it'll work though
19:02 < Ox40Work> sweet
19:03 < i_c-Y> sir_lewk is wrong as usual. but its okay, nobody listens to him.
19:04  * sir_lewk huggles i_c-Y
19:05 < Ox40Work> MEH
19:05 < Ox40Work> Might just go for the Vista stuff now.
19:05 < Ox40Work> I just want to go with something that doesn't completely screw me over later.
19:06 < i_c-Y> go vista
19:07 < i_c-Y> and shut up
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19:08 < Ox40Work> ok
19:08 < Ox40Work> will do
19:09 < Ox40Work> i_c-Y: this CPU kicks ass...
19:09 < i_c-Y> Ox40Work: which one?
19:10 < i_c-Y> the x2? its better than your 2800+
19:10 < Ox40Work> yeah
19:10 < Ox40Work> its awesome
19:10 < Ox40Work> it says 5000, is that "comprable to Intel 5.0GHz"?
19:10 < Ox40Work> or am  I making things up?
19:10 < i_c-Y> the numbers dont mean anything anymore.
19:11 < Ox40Work> ah
19:11 < Ox40Work> WAIT
19:11 < Ox40Work> is that a 64-bit CPU?!
19:11 < i_c-Y> yes.
19:11 < Ox40Work> AWESOME
19:11 < Ox40Work> Windows Vista Home Ultimate 64-Bit Edition here I come!
19:11 < i_c-Y> note that an athlon64 is 64 bits.
19:11 < Ox40Work> ;)
19:11 < i_c-Y> note that an athlon64 is 64 bit.
19:11 < Ox40Work> ;)
19:12 < Ox40Work> AWE-SOM-E!
19:14 < i_c-Y> you also need to do bios updates and stuff.
19:14 < Ox40Work> O.o
19:14 < i_c-Y> so you're going to put the vista installer on a flash drive and install? or do you have a spare dvd burner?
19:15 < Ox40Work> hmm, I havent thought that far yet ;)
19:15 < Ox40Work> how big is the vista installer?
19:16 <+kirsk> no dvd player on a mc pc?
19:16 < i_c-Y> depends. if you have the anytime upgrade disc its a full dvd. if you just have the ultimate disc its like 1.9
19:16 < i_c-Y> kirsk: thats Ox40Work logic.
19:16 <+kirsk> hehe
19:16 < Ox40Work> I just have to go buy one :X
19:16 < i_c-Y> you said yo uhad one
19:17 < i_c-Y> woulda been another 20 bucks if you had ordered it from newegg
19:17 <+kirsk> woo all band of brothers episodes in 1080p... 100gB though <_<
19:19 < sir_lewk> niiice
19:19 < i_c-Y> http://www.staples.com/office/supplies/p1__255120_Business_Supplies_10051_SEARCH is a choice if your mobo has ide
19:19 < sir_lewk> band of brothers was excellent
19:19 < Ox40Work> i_c-Y: it does, doesnt it?
19:19 < i_c-Y> which it does.
19:19 < Ox40Work> sweet :P
19:19 < i_c-Y> so you might want to pick it up at staples on your way home
19:20 <+kirsk> network install from your main pc?
19:20 < i_c-Y> you still want a dvd burner on that machine
19:20 < i_c-Y> for backups
19:20 < i_c-Y> and playing dvds
19:20 < i_c-Y> and copying them
19:20 <+kirsk> yeah
19:20 < i_c-Y> for making backups
19:21 < Ox40Work> i_c-Y: I have no staples near me 
19:21 <+kirsk> backups can be on hd
19:21 < i_c-Y> Ox40Work: what the hell do you have near yo?
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19:21 < Ox40Work> i_c-Y: Walmart, Office Depot
19:21 < Ox40Work> etc
19:21 < i_c-Y> oh hit up office depot they
19:21 < i_c-Y> re going down
19:21 < Ox40Work> O.o
19:22 < Ox40Work> 'goin down'?
19:23 < i_c-Y> ya
19:23 < sir_lewk> Ox40Work is going down on someone? o.O
19:23 < i_c-Y> closing mad stores
19:23 < Ox40Work> hmm
19:23 < i_c-Y> on your mom, sir_lewk 
19:23 <+kirsk> omnomonom
19:23 < Ox40Work> ok, office depot
19:23 < sir_lewk> lulz
19:23 < Ox40Work> but, I still have NO $
19:23 < Ox40Work> gotta hit up my roommate for the $100 he owes me
19:23 < sir_lewk> get a job?
19:23 < i_c-Y> 30 bucks for a drive at office depot
19:23 < i_c-Y> http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/954575/LiteOn-DH-20A4P-DVD-RW-R/
19:25 < Damakaru> (13:20:57 CST):  DVD backups < USB drive backups.
19:26 < i_c-Y> Damakaru: i dont know about you
19:26 < i_c-Y> but i rent dvds
19:26 < i_c-Y> and i kinda like to be able to watch them
19:27 < sir_lewk> I watch my DVDs with a magnifying glass and my brain to decode them
19:27 <+kirsk> is it legal to copy rentals?
19:27 < sir_lewk> no
19:27 < Damakaru> No.
19:27 < sir_lewk> well, yes
19:27 < sir_lewk> but no
19:27 < sir_lewk> fair use/timeshifting
19:27 < i_c-Y> kirsk: no. why would anyone copy a rental?
19:28 < sir_lewk> but cracking the CSS at all is illegal in the US
19:28 < sir_lewk> i_c-Y: tones of people get netflix just so they don't have to bother with downloading
19:28 < i_c-Y> that's piracy. and piracy is bad.
19:28 < sir_lewk> piracy of windows is bad
19:29 < i_c-Y> piracy is bad. 
19:29 < Damakaru> Piracy of *anything* is bad.
19:29 < sir_lewk> I couldn't care less about the rest
19:30 <+kirsk> what does netflix do?
19:30 <+prime_> http://i41.tinypic.com/rhv580.jpg
19:30 < sir_lewk> kirsk: you rent movies online and the come in the mail
19:30 <+kirsk> heh
19:31 < sir_lewk> keep them as long as you want, then mail them back
19:31 < i_c-Y> monthly fee
19:31 < sir_lewk> yup
19:31 <+kirsk> oh
19:31 <+kirsk> how much?
19:31 < sir_lewk> as many as you can watch
19:31 < sir_lewk> like $20 or something, I don't know exactly
19:31 < Damakaru> That's actaully not too bad.
19:31 < sir_lewk> there are different tiers, how many movies you can have out at one time
19:31 < Damakaru> I would go that route if I was a movie-watcher.
19:32 < sir_lewk> yeah, my family does it, it's pretty nice
19:32 < sir_lewk> they have an awesome selection too
19:35 <+kirsk> would be nice if they let you download them instead
19:37 < Ox40Work> BALEHHHH
19:38 < Ox40Work> I need Monay
19:39 < sir_lewk> kirsk: they let you stream some movies and shows
19:39 < sir_lewk> not nearly as good a selection though
19:39 < Ox40Work> Nope
19:39 <+kirsk> eh and you cant really stream full HD
19:39 < Ox40Work> its depressing how few movies you can stream
19:40 <+kirsk> what about tv serie boxes?
19:40 < sir_lewk> perhaps not full HD but it's pretty good quality
19:40 < sir_lewk> just about any you can think of you can rent
19:40 < Ox40Work> it is pretty darn good
19:40 < sir_lewk> a lot are streamable but not that many
19:40 < Ox40Work> Guys, watch the movie Existenz
19:40 < sir_lewk> never heard of it
19:41 < Ox40Work> rent it
19:41 <+prime_> what is it about?
19:41 <+kirsk> sounded pretty lame when i saw it at the movie store
19:42 < sir_lewk> it's probably some mormon movie
19:42 < sir_lewk> oh wait, Ox40Work isn't Barrett
19:43 < Ox40Work> :P
19:43 < Ox40Work> Its about.... a video game
19:43 < Ox40Work> that is... it hooks into your spine... :P
19:45 <+kirsk> is the girl in it nice?
19:45 < sir_lewk> is she... necked?
19:45 < Ox40Work> necked?
19:46 <+kirsk> birth suited up
19:46 < sir_lewk> nekkid
19:46 < Ox40Work> ah
19:46 < Ox40Work> lol
19:46 < Ox40Work> "The problem with CSS is that CSS is too hard."
19:46 < Ox40Work> 37 minutes till I win my Tuner Card on Ebay!
19:46 <+kirsk> too hard to get working in all browsers yeah
19:47 < Ox40Work> CSS is easy
19:47 < sir_lewk> yeah
19:47 < sir_lewk> just download decss
19:47 < sir_lewk> duh
19:47 <+kirsk> often ends up being a pane though
19:47 <+kirsk> *pain
19:50 < sir_lewk> I've never done anything with it
19:50 < sir_lewk> html 2.0 is good enough for my purposes :P
19:50 <+kirsk> what is Quaker slang for?
19:51 < sir_lewk> it was a religous group a 2 or 3 hundred years ago in the US
19:51 <+kirsk> oh yeah ok
19:51  * sir_lewk wonders if they are still around anywhere
19:52 < Damakaru> Ox40Work (13:47:04 CST):  Agreed.
19:53 < sir_lewk> helen keller is easy.
19:53 < sir_lewk> :P
19:55 < sir_lewk> </bad taste>
19:55 < Ox40Work> Damakaru: agreed with what?
19:55 < Ox40Work> CSS is too hard?
19:55 < Damakaru> s:hard:easy:
19:55 < Ox40Work> s/hard/easy/
19:55 < Ox40Work> wtf is this ":" all about?
19:56 < Ox40Work> 28 minutes till I win!!!
19:56 <+kirsk> professional design with css is not easy
19:56 < Ox40Work> *happy dance*
19:56 < Damakaru> I work with paths a lot, so I never use slash as a delimiter.
19:56 <+kirsk> a bunch of divs with borders, yeah
19:56 < Damakaru> (Or at least am in the habit of not doing so.)
19:57 < Ox40Work> BLAHHHH
19:58 < sir_lewk> I'm a proctologist so I work with colons a lot
19:58 < Ox40Work> lol
19:58 <+kirsk> +1
19:58 < Ox40Work> Gah, I'm broke, and I have $9k of furnature at home that I hate...
19:58 < Ox40Work> but nowhere to sell it
19:59 < sir_lewk> craigslist
19:59 < sir_lewk> duh
19:59 < Ox40Work> O.o
19:59 < Ox40Work> really?
19:59 < sir_lewk> sure!
19:59 < Damakaru> "Ya rly!"
19:59 < Ox40Work> you think there would be people there that would pay $5k for a chair?
19:59 < sir_lewk> ...
19:59 < sir_lewk> what makes it work 5k?
19:59 < Ox40Work> Its... just... the chair.
19:59 < sir_lewk> maybe a couple hundred I could see
20:00 < Ox40Work> no, the chair new is $4,900
20:00 < Damakaru> Is it made out of cubic zirconium or something?
20:00 < Ox40Work> Damakaru: nope
20:00 < Ox40Work> its uncomfortable too
20:00 < sir_lewk> is it some artsy fartsy design?
20:00 < Ox40Work> yeah
20:00 < sir_lewk> great
20:00 < sir_lewk> trade if for sex
20:00 < sir_lewk> *it
20:01 < Ox40Work> nah, I need the money
20:01 < sir_lewk> that's the best you'll get for it
20:01 < Ox40Work> im sure I could sell it in the right forum
20:01 < sir_lewk> local auctioneer?
20:02 < sir_lewk> ebay?
20:02 < sir_lewk> try ebay
20:02 < sir_lewk> hell if I'd know how to ship that though
20:02 < Ox40Work> yeah
20:02 < Ox40Work> :P
20:02 < Ox40Work> thats the problem
20:02 < sir_lewk> or, better yet.
20:02 < sir_lewk> invite friends over
20:02 < sir_lewk> get hotdogs and soda
20:02 < sir_lewk> burn it and have bbq
20:03 < sir_lewk> :D
20:04 < sir_lewk> 50 years from now you'll be glad you did something that awesome instead of just getting a few grand to pay some bills
20:04 < sir_lewk> you only live once
20:05 < sir_lewk> hell, tell your friends to bring friends
20:05 < sir_lewk> maybe you'll meet some awesome chick at your chair bbq and end up marrying her or something
20:06 < sir_lewk> and her dad is totally loaded so you're money whoas will be over
20:06 < Damakaru> One, sell furniture; two, buy Vista; three, profit.
20:06 < sir_lewk> lolno, BBQs kick vista's ass any day
20:06 < sir_lewk> stop being a bad influence
20:07 < sir_lewk> seriously Ox40Work, BBQ that fucker.  You never know what awesome shit will happen if you live outside the norm
20:07 < Damakaru> Okay, so, buy Vista *and* a bar-b-que set, and profit (whatever little you have remaining).
20:07 < Ox40Work> fuck that
20:07 < Ox40Work> Im selling the shit
20:08 < sir_lewk> you could even put it up on facebook or something, meet new people
20:08 < Ox40Work> or not :P
20:08 < sir_lewk> pah
20:09 < sir_lewk> you'd rather be a lonely rich guy than live life to it's fullest
20:09 < sir_lewk> if that's your thing, then whatever
20:09 < Ox40Work> lol, if burning it could get me a chick and everything yuo just said, FINE
20:09 < Ox40Work> I would do it in a heart beat
20:09 -!- Mwyann [~Mwy@88-123-70-205.rev.libertysurf.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
20:09 < Ox40Work> but, chances of that happening...
20:09 < sir_lewk> don't come crying to me later on that your life sucks.  won't be my fault you didn't have a BBQ
20:11 < Ox40Work> :P
20:15 < sir_lewk> pssh
20:15 < sir_lewk> I'm not talking to you.
20:15 < sir_lewk> you get the silent treatment for being a boring stiff
20:15 < sir_lewk> :P
20:16 < Ox40Work> lol
20:18 < Ox40Work> you have no idea how much I could use $9k
20:18 < Ox40Work> I have never had that much money...
20:18 < Ox40Work> ever.
20:18 < Ox40Work> most I ever had was $2k
20:18 < Ox40Work> but, now I am broke and it sucks. So, $9k would be VERY welcomed
20:18 < sir_lewk> what are you going to use it on?
20:18 < sir_lewk> in fact, what are you?
20:18 < Ox40Work> Rent and such
20:18 < sir_lewk> student?
20:19 < i_c-Y> why dont you live with your parents?
20:19 < Ox40Work> I just need money...
20:19 <@E-J> *nelsonlaugh* you are poor!
20:19 < Ox40Work> i_c-Y: because my parents dont allow pot and random 1-night stands ;)
20:19 < sir_lewk> >.<
20:20 < Ox40Work> E-J: yep, livin paycheck-to-paycheck
20:20 < sir_lewk> that's not usually a good thing
20:20 < Ox40Work> nope
20:20 < sir_lewk> you should go to school
20:20 < sir_lewk> get a scholarship for pot smoking or something
20:20 <@E-J> i just paid my debt to mother which she gave when i bought this flat
20:21 < sir_lewk> what do you do E-J?
20:21 < sir_lewk> student?
20:21 <@E-J> sir_lewk: i'm student, who has ~rich grandparents
20:22 < sir_lewk> nice :)
20:22 < sir_lewk> after I graduate I need to find a way to stay in school
20:22 < i_c-Y> graduate school.
20:23 < sir_lewk> yeah
20:23 < sir_lewk> somewhere that'll pay me to do that though
20:23 <@E-J> but then again i study subject that will give me (if i'm lucky enough) more than 2500 euros per month when i graduate
20:23 <@E-J> last summer my summer wage was 1900 euros per month
20:23 <@E-J> - 10.5% taxes
20:23 < i_c-Y> you could get a real job
20:23 < sir_lewk> I'd love to just stay in school, like forever
20:24 <@E-J> sir_lewk: believe me, after 7 years you want to do something else
20:24 < sir_lewk> yeah
20:24 < Ox40Work> FUCKKK
20:24 < Ox40Work> Sorry, you were outbid at the last minute. This item sold for US $60.60. 
20:24 < sir_lewk> I'm in a 5 year program, I'll probably be bored by then I guess
20:25 <@E-J> i'm doing my 7th year in 4.5 year program
20:25 < sir_lewk> nice :)
20:25 < sir_lewk> maybe I'll go for my masters after the 5 years is up
20:25 <@E-J> i think i graduate in 8 years
20:26 <@E-J> and this is program after which student will be a master of science (in tech)
20:26 < sir_lewk> gotcha
20:26 < sir_lewk> most 5 year programs over here are masters, mine isn't though :S
20:27 <@E-J> there is also overeuropean program called space master, after which student will be a master of universe
20:27 <@E-J> (just kidding)
20:27 < sir_lewk> I get 3 6month coop/internships instead (nice for the resume), but meh
20:27 < sir_lewk> haha
20:27 < Ox40Work> DAMN IT
20:27 < Ox40Work> fuck you ebay
20:27 < Damakaru> *Is moving from Computer Sciece to Information Technology*
20:27 < i_c-Y> i think im going to try to finish undergrad and masters at the same time.
20:28 < Ox40Work> *headdesk*
20:28 < Ox40Work> I just lost my item by $0.60
20:28 < sir_lewk> i_c-Y is in finnyland?
20:28 < i_c-Y> what were you bidding on?
20:28 < i_c-Y> no, sir_lewk 
20:28 < Ox40Work> i_c-Y: Tuner card
20:28 < Ox40Work> anyone got a card they want to sell?
20:28 < sir_lewk> oooh, duh
20:29 < Damakaru> *Holds up a deck of playing cards.*
20:29 < sir_lewk> LOL, misread "finish" :P
20:30  * sir_lewk wonders how hard it'd be to get a study abroad in europe somewhere
20:30 < i_c-Y> Ox40Work: check slickdeals / fat wallet
20:30 < sir_lewk> I don't think there are huge demands for CS students to do that
20:33 <@E-J> sir_lewk: here cs has a little undervaluation
20:34 <@E-J> so studying here can get you working
20:35 < _Auron_> I CAN HAS CAR
20:35 < Damakaru> *Leaves off for the kitchen.*  I'm hungry like a f...ing beast!
20:35  * _Auron_ throws pumpkins around
20:35 < _Auron_> it's fulfilling to have a car once more
20:37 < i_c-Y> now put some black powder in your gas tank. then add a fuse
20:37 < i_c-Y> and light it
20:39 <@E-J> sir_lewk: http://www.tkk.fi/en/prospective_students/
20:41 < _Auron_> and I had sushi for lunch from suzushii
20:41 < sir_lewk> ah, thanks
20:41 < ports-> hey sir_lewk 
20:42 < ports-> can i drink a coke zero?
20:42 < sir_lewk> sup ports-
20:42 < sir_lewk> sure
20:42 < sir_lewk> go ahead
20:42 < Ox40Work> ports-: Hell no
20:42 < ports-> after the surgery ya nit
20:42 < sir_lewk> oh oh
20:42 < sir_lewk> hmm
20:42 < Ox40Work> coke zero, never
20:42 < i_c-Y> drink something hot
20:42 < ports-> because im going to try and eat some of the ramen instant lunch thing
20:42 < Ox40Work> Go get a Mountain Dew
20:42 < sir_lewk> I drank lots of sprite
20:42 < i_c-Y> like chicken noodle soup
20:42 < i_c-Y> make sure its roughly 212 deg F
20:42 < sir_lewk> dunno of caffiene would be a good idea or not
20:42 < ports-> i_c-Y: FUCK OFF
20:42 < ports-> sir_lewk:  i need the caffeine lol
20:42 < _Auron_> surgery?
20:42 < sir_lewk> wisdom teeth
20:42 < ports-> _Auron_:  i had my wisdom teeth removed yesterday
20:43 < i_c-Y> thats what he's calling getting his wisdom teeth out.
20:43 < _Auron_> oh
20:43 < _Auron_> carbonation = BAD
20:43 < sir_lewk> it technically is surgery
20:43 < ports-> wisdom teeth extraction = surgery... its performed by an ORAL SURGEON
20:43 < sir_lewk> yup
20:43 < _Auron_> it is indeed surgery
20:43 < _Auron_> so is surgery on an abscess
20:43 < ports-> im going to try and eat the ramen because i need some solid food..
20:43 < sir_lewk> it involves a lot of cutting, insisions, stitches, and blood
20:43 < ports-> im starving now
20:43 < ports-> incisions
20:43 < sir_lewk> and often general anestisia
20:44 < sir_lewk> !qfind spell
20:44 < sir_lewk> grr
20:44 < ports-> score i can almost swallow the ramen straight
20:44 < _Auron_> lol when my friend had his wisdom teeth removed, beforehand they gave him pills that made him extremely high
20:45 < _Auron_> he was laying on the couch at the dentist office and was all ^_^ and talking about how there was a man in the tree outside
20:45 < _Auron_> he was so messed up
20:45 < sir_lewk> lol
20:45 < Ox40Work> *headdesk*
20:45 < sir_lewk> !qsat 1000
20:45 < sir_lewk> !qsay 1000
20:45 < Ox40Work> i_c-Y: you are really good at finding computer parts...
20:45 < ports-> chewing ramen isnt necessary right?
20:45 < sir_lewk> I think the quotes are down
20:45 < _Auron_> or lagging
20:45 < i_c-Y> ports-: no its not. 
20:46 < _Auron_> ports-: no
20:46 < i_c-Y> Ox40Work: yes.
20:46 < Ox40Work> I need a good tuner card that has a remote and can record one show and watch another at the same time.
20:46 < Ox40Work> any ideas? :)
20:46 < _Auron_> it's just strings of fat anyways
20:46 < sir_lewk> http://tcpa.aardy.net/quotes/ won't load either
20:46 < i_c-Y> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815116036 is one.
20:46 < Ox40Work> hmm, anything else cheaper? :)
20:47 < Ox40Work> but, that is exactly what I want
20:47 < _Auron_> I think I have that one
20:47 < _Auron_> I don't use it though
20:47 < Ox40Work> _Auron_: wanna sell it?
20:47 < Ox40Work> :)
20:48 < _Auron_> lemme check what model it is
20:48 < Ox40Work> sure sure
20:48 < _Auron_> ah it's the 1800
20:48 < _Auron_> not 2250
20:48 < _Auron_> dunno if it can do multitasking like that
20:48 < sir_lewk> I'm tired of this fucking "gets dark at 5pm" shit
20:48 < sir_lewk> why can't it be daylight sometime other then while I'm working for once?
20:48 < sir_lewk> winter sucks
20:48 < _Auron_> lol
20:49 < _Auron_> only thing I hate about winter is how dry my lips get (center of my bottom lip is cracked open and bleeds every day)
20:49 < ports-> _Auron_:  youre a gay.. youre supposed to take care of your hygiene
20:49 < ports-> get some fucking chapstick
20:49 < sir_lewk> cool, fresh blood supply
20:49 < sir_lewk> oh lol
20:49 <@E-J> you get angry about get's dark at 5pm?, maybe finland isn't right place for you then :)
20:49 <@Andy_J> the short answer is "because it think it's legit" but we're not going into that
20:49 < _Auron_> chapstick costs money
20:49 < i_c-Y> Ox40Work: ill think about it
20:49 < sir_lewk> E-J: normally I like it
20:49 < i_c-Y> how much is your price range
20:50 < ports-> _Auron_:  just borrow a girls and dont give it back
20:50 <@E-J> sir_lewk: today it got dark at 15:37
20:50 < _Auron_> I don't know any girls?
20:50 < sir_lewk> I just looked out my window right now and got really pissed that it was light out and I'm working though
20:50 < ports-> how do you not know any girls
20:50 < _Auron_> just because I'm gay doesn't mean I fit the 5 billion stereotypes you straight people make up
20:50 < Ox40Work> i_c-Y: as cheap as possible
20:50 < Ox40Work> "_
20:50 < Ox40Work> :)
20:51 < ports-> _Auron_:  i know but i still like teasing you
20:51 < sir_lewk> _Auron_: you mean you can't help me pick out a couch? :(
20:51 < _Auron_> it's all good :)
20:51 < i_c-Y> Ox40Work: i cant really think of a quality product that has does it. 
20:51 < sir_lewk> ;P
20:51 < ports-> _Auron_:  i only do it out of fun.
20:51 < i_c-Y> other than putting in 2 tuners, which will only save a bit, have 2 remotes.
20:51 < ports-> sir_lewk:  i tried to get her to help me pick out a pair of shoes a few weeks ago.. she was useless
20:51 < sir_lewk> her?
20:51 <@E-J> sir_lewk: how misserable is this, when you wake up it's dark and when workday is off, it's dark, you can see sunlight maybe when it's lunch time
20:52 < ports-> yeah.. i was making a joke by calling the gay guy "her"
20:52 < _Auron_> I don't know shoes
20:52 < _Auron_> I like Vans though <_<
20:52 < ports-> how are you gay?
20:52 < _Auron_> XD
20:52 < ports-> no super gay would wear vans
20:52 < _Auron_> I'm seriously lmfao right now
20:52 <@Andy_J> stereotyper!
20:52 < sir_lewk> normally I like it when it's dark/night. I work better when it's dark and quiet
20:52 < ports-> _Auron_:  about me?
20:53 < sir_lewk> lately I've just been sick of doing anything computer related and want to get out more
20:53 < _Auron_> yes
20:53 < _Auron_> the "how are you gay" comment
20:53 < ports-> _Auron_:  good
20:53 < ports-> because i have ramen hanging out of my mouth that im swallowing straight
20:53 < _Auron_> well I swallow gay
20:53 < sir_lewk> lol, that sounds rather homoerotic ports-
20:54 < _Auron_> so there
20:54 <@E-J> because _Auron_ is always joyfull, he is gay
20:54 < ports-> _Auron_:  you better swallow...!
20:54 < sir_lewk> I'm going to get a sub at the deli tonight
20:54 < Ox40Work> i_c-Y: idk...
20:54 < sir_lewk> and maybe a sixpack
20:54 < i_c-Y> Ox40Work: i think youd have to shell out for the wintv hvr-2250, or the hd homerun
20:55 < sir_lewk> I haven't shaved in a few days, the chinese owner probably won't card me...
20:55 < i_c-Y> the former being the less expensive.
20:55 < _Auron_> lol
20:55 < ports-> i havent shaved in a few days either
20:55 < ports-> but thats because my jaw is sore
20:55 < sir_lewk> not being 21 sucks, this country is fucked up :(
20:55 < ports-> sir_lewk:  stfu
20:55 < sir_lewk> diaf
20:56 < ports-> sir_lewk:  you have to wait 21 years to be old enough to buy alcohol just like i did
20:56 < sir_lewk> is it that unreasonable that I want to have a beer after a long week of work?
20:56 <@E-J> sir_lewk: in finland you have to be 20 to get over 20% alcohol, and only 18 to get below
20:56 < _Auron_> I don't care about alcohol that much so I'm fine
20:56 < sir_lewk> I'm by no means a stupid drunk frat kid
20:56 < ports-> sir_lewk:  im not saying its unreasonable.
20:56 < i_c-Y> sir_lewk: since you dont do anything useful, yes it is unreasonable.
20:57 < ports-> sir_lewk:  im saying that you plight is no different than mine, or anyone elses. so stfu!
20:57 < ports-> mind you.. im 23 now
20:57 < sir_lewk> pah, I do useful work,  I have a real job.
20:57 <+prime_> he was talking about himself, sir_lewk
20:58 < ports-> i was a stupid drunk kid
20:58 < ports-> now im a stupid drunk adult
20:58 <+prime_> yay!
20:58 < _Auron_> there's a chance I might not have to move
20:58 < sir_lewk> I should join the army, go shoot people for 4 years, then come back and drink
20:59 < sir_lewk> obviously that's the socially responsible thing to do
20:59 < _Auron_> I don't want to move because my bills will go up if I do
20:59 <+prime_> http://tinyurl.com/yokf87
20:59 < sir_lewk> what is that
21:00 < _Auron_> cannabis has no physical harm
21:00 < sir_lewk> no shit
21:00 < _Auron_> that should be at 0
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21:02 < sir_lewk> sup JSeligste?
21:02 < ports-> heh
21:03 < ports-> my trip to michigan got cancelled
21:03 < sir_lewk> why?
21:03 < sir_lewk> and why were you going to michigan?
21:03 < ports-> i have an engineering project there..
21:03 < ports-> its been delayed indefinitely by my boss
21:03 <+prime_> much fichigan
21:04 < sir_lewk> engineering in michigan?
21:04 < sir_lewk> like detroit?
21:04 <+prime_> muck
21:04 < ports-> sir_lewk:  maybe why
21:04 < sir_lewk> I don't really know of anything in michigan besides detroit
21:04 < sir_lewk> and a lake
21:04  * sir_lewk dozes off at work
21:05 -!- ReDeEm [~Kk@adsl-75-44-48-247.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #tcpa
21:05 < ReDeEm> DUDE
21:05 < ReDeEm> this case is amazing
21:05 < ReDeEm> its beautiful
21:05 < ports-> heh
21:05 < sir_lewk> pics
21:05 < ports-> sir_lewk:  my project was about 2 hours from michigan
21:06 < sir_lewk> oh
21:06 < ports-> sir_lewk:  but my boss delayed it for now because we arent ready for it
21:06 < sir_lewk> poo :(
21:06 < ports-> well
21:06 < ports-> i had a feeling it would happen
21:06 < sir_lewk> because cool stuff always falls through?
21:06 < ports-> because i was supposed to be up there Dec 17th... then Jan 1st.. and then i was thinking maybe Jan 20th
21:06 < ports-> no.. its supposed to be a 3 month project..
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21:06 < sir_lewk> ah
21:07 < ports-> so i just wanted to go there and get it done.
21:07 < ports-> because im living in the hotel right now..  and ive got about 3-6 projects that i need to get done.. and all of them require traveling
21:07 < sir_lewk> oh well
21:07 < ports-> so when all my traveling projects are done.. i can finally go back to my main office, and rent a proper apartment and live comfortable
21:07 < ReDeEm> sir_lewk: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119153&nm_mc=TEMC-RMA-Approvel&cm_mmc=TEMC-RMA-Approvel-_-Content-_-text-_-
21:07 < sir_lewk> traveling seems fun
21:07 < ports-> sir_lewk:  im a clean freak... i dont touch the blankets on my bed at the hotel
21:08 < ports-> i bought my own bleach cleaning spray and cleaned my bathroom
21:08 < _Auron_> sure you're not gay? :P
21:08 < sir_lewk> haha
21:08 < ports-> _Auron_:  i might be going on a gay date this weekend but no im not gay
21:08 < sir_lewk> pwnd
21:08 < _Auron_> ;)
21:08 < i_c-Y> red cases are for fags
21:09 < ports-> this girl at the dentists office.. she was talking to me about why i was here. and shes like "do you speak spanish? because theres this guy Luis that works here at the office.. he comes and hangs out with all the us spanish speaking girls.."
21:09 < ReDeEm> i_c-Y: you picked it out!
21:09 < ports-> and i gave her my card and she introduced me to Luis... im fairly sure hes a gay mexican
21:09 < ReDeEm> ohmygod...
21:09 < i_c-Y> ReDeEm: because you're a fag!
21:09 < ReDeEm> This case has svideo out...
21:09 < _Auron_> oh and a quiktrip the girl that works there that I kinda know since I go there a lot, says her saturn did the SAME EXACT thing that my saturn did
21:09 < ReDeEm> this _CASE_ has svideo out
21:09 < _Auron_> except she paid $3000 to get it fixed
21:10 < ports-> _Auron_:  scroll up.
21:10 < sir_lewk> what did it do?
21:10 < _Auron_> lol
21:10 < i_c-Y> ReDeEm: what the hell are you talking about
21:10 < sir_lewk> also, that newegg page is taking foooooooreeeeever to load
21:10 < _Auron_> no it doesn't
21:11 < sir_lewk> what would a case output anyways?
21:11 < _Auron_> and that case sucks
21:11 < i_c-Y> i think he doesnt know what a ps/2 port is.
21:11 < _Auron_> the color anyways
21:11 < sir_lewk> shouldn't it be the video card that has svideo?
21:11 < i_c-Y> sir_lewk: correct.
21:11 < ports-> ok fine..
21:11 < i_c-Y> _Auron_: its an excellent case aside from teh color
21:11 < ports-> you can just ignore my gay date story
21:11 < _Auron_> ports-: I read o.o
21:11 < ports-> oh ok
21:11 < _Auron_> what am I supposed to say :P
21:12 < ports-> laugh at me?
21:12 < _Auron_> she thinks you're gay too? :P
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21:12 < ports-> i guess so? im not sure..
21:12 < sir_lewk> haha, ports- is a gay mexican
21:12 < _Auron_> lol
21:12 < ports-> because im not gay.. and i dont think anyones ever mistaken me for gay
21:12 < _Auron_> he's indian though, aren't you?
21:12 < ports-> yeah im indian
21:12 < sir_lewk> whatevs
21:12 < ports-> im wearing khakhi cargos, a sweater, and steel toed boots..
21:12 < _Auron_> LRN2RACE
21:12 < ports-> id be a shitty gay like Auron
21:12 < sir_lewk> gay indian with a gay mexican lover
21:13 < Damakaru> Exotic.
21:13 < _Auron_> I'm wearing khakhi cargos and a Code Monkey shirt from thinkgeek
21:13 < ports-> sir_lewk:  meh.. if that dude calls me.. i might go hang out with him as friends if hes going to hang out with all those spanish speaking girls
21:13 < _Auron_> lol
21:13 < sir_lewk> ports-: I thought you said you were a neat freak
21:13 < sir_lewk> haha
21:13 < ports-> i am a neat freak
21:13 < _Auron_> neat freak dosen't mean fashion freak
21:13 < _Auron_> however if you're both you're probably gay
21:13 < ports-> my steel toed boots are nice, expensive boots that looks like normal shoes..
21:13 < sir_lewk> you'd make a decent gay then :P
21:14 < ports-> and i just wear cargo khakhis to work because i carry a lot of stuff in my pockets, and have 2 cell phones..
21:14 < ports-> and sweaters fit into business casual, but they dont require ironing.
21:14 < sir_lewk> what is ironing
21:14 < _Auron_> when cleaning my room I found a blackjack II
21:15 < Damakaru> sir_lewk:  The cooking process when making waffles.
21:15 < sir_lewk> awesome!
21:15 < ports-> _Auron_:  want to sell it?
21:15 < sir_lewk> what's a blackjack II?
21:15 < _Auron_> when I worked at office depot this guy that was a friend of my manager was having issues with it and let me borrow it so I could fix it
21:15 < ports-> samsung cell phone
21:15 < _Auron_> he ended up getting a new phone and said I could have it
21:15 < sir_lewk> oh
21:15 < ports-> _Auron_:  whats wrong with it?
21:16 < _Auron_> was just some corrupted registry values
21:16 < ports-> oh
21:16 < _Auron_> I ended up resetting the phone anyways
21:16 < ports-> i repeat
21:16 < ports-> want to sell it?
21:16 < ports-> i have a friend that is thinking about buying a blackjack2 and cant afford alot
21:16 < _Auron_> maybe, I don't have a use for it
21:17 < _Auron_> since I don't have ATT
21:17 < ports-> personally i think shes being stupid.. twice in the last few months shes missed paying her cell phone bill and had it shut off
21:17 < _Auron_> I don't have any cables or anything, just the phone
21:17 < _Auron_> ehh
21:17 < ports-> shes not making a ton of money. so in a way its a responsible decision, pay the cell phone bill last...  and she doesnt have cable tv.
21:17 < _Auron_> doesn't sound like getting a newphone is in her interest 
21:18 < sir_lewk> yeah...
21:18 < ports-> shes due for an upgrade.. and she dropped her current samsung slider in water last week
21:18 < ports-> i might just give her one of my old phones to use
21:18 < _Auron_> I'd like to hax this somehow though
21:19 < ports-> i kinda like this girl, and shes a really good friend of mine.. i was really tempted to go pay her phone bill last week.
21:19 < ports-> kinda hard to call someone to talk when their phone isnt working
21:19 < ports-> so it was more out of selfish convenience
21:19 < _Auron_> you don't want her to depend on you though
21:19 < ports-> not at all
21:19 < ports-> and she wouldnt
21:20 < ports-> she would kill me if i paid her phone bill
21:20 < _Auron_> lol
21:20 < ports-> http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v299/156/39/37709802/n37709802_32967154_8874.jpg  - thats her on the left..
21:20 < ports-> shes 27
21:21 < _Auron_> no offense but she looks like the type that doesn't handle money well
21:23 < ReDeEm> So, I don't get this
21:24 < ReDeEm> this case has an svideo and RCA connections on it
21:24 < ReDeEm> http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowImage.aspx?ISList=11-119-153-S01%2c11-119-153-S02%2c11-119-153-S03%2c11-119-153-S04%2c11-119-153-S05%2c11-119-153-S06%2c11-119-153-S07%2c11-119-153-S08%2c11-119-153-S09%2c11-119-153-S10%2c11-119-153-S11&S7ImageFlag=1&Item=N82E16811119153&Depa=0&WaterMark=1&Description=COOLER%20MASTER%20Centurion%205%20red%20version%20FR-T05-URI-GP%20Black%20%2f%20Red%20Computer%20Case%20with%20AC%20connector%20-%20Retai
21:24 < ReDeEm> holy crap
21:24 < ReDeEm> But, 3rd image in, you can see the connections on the right side
21:24 <+Netham45> that link is fucking massive at 640x480... o.o
21:24 < sir_lewk> _Auron_: yes, she does look like a woman doesn't she
21:24  * sir_lewk ducks
21:25 < ports-> _Auron_:  no shes pretty good with money..  shes just trying to finish school right now and cant work much
21:25 < i_c-Y> ReDeEm: whcih picture are you looking at?
21:25 < _Auron_> ports-: ah
21:25 < _Auron_> i_c-Y: 3rd picture has red/yellow/white RCA connectors
21:25 < i_c-Y> oh, you're right
21:26 < i_c-Y> wow ReDeEm , you're not retarded after all
21:26 < ports-> she told me shes thinking about getting a blackberry to replace her busted phone
21:26 < ReDeEm> i_c-Y: 3rd one
21:26 < ReDeEm> :P
21:26 < _Auron_> I want to switch to t-mobile and get the G1 at some point
21:26 < ReDeEm> and it has svideo too
21:26 < ReDeEm> I dont get it
21:26 < i_c-Y> it was on the 7th pic for me
21:26 < ports-> and so her phone bill would automatically increase $50/month.. for the blackberry internet + texting plan
21:26 < ReDeEm> there are cords GALORE in there
21:26 < i_c-Y> check on the coolermaster website to see how to connect it
21:26 < _Auron_> ReDeEm: you should see my case
21:26 < i_c-Y> the normal ones dont have that on the case
21:27 < sir_lewk> do blackberries do phonecalls?
21:27 < ports-> _Auron_:  aint she hot though?
21:27 < sir_lewk> ports-: yeah she is
21:27 < ports-> sir_lewk:  i carry two blackberrys and they sure do
21:27 < _Auron_> ports-: yeah she's cute
21:27 < sir_lewk> damn
21:27 < ReDeEm> i_c-Y: i... yeah, im confused
21:27 < sir_lewk> I should get a blackberry
21:27 < ports-> sir_lewk:  $50/month + voice plan
21:27 < sir_lewk> cool
21:27 < ports-> the data plan for the blackberry is expensive
21:27 < sir_lewk> that'd be worth it
21:27 < sir_lewk> how much data do you get?
21:28 < ports-> but from what ive been reading.. the BIS (blackberry internet service).. all of your internet traffic is routed their the BB server.. and they do some awesome compression
21:28 < ports-> sir_lewk:  arent you in america?   and i have unlimited data on at&t
21:28 < sir_lewk> can you ssh from it?
21:28 < _Auron_> ports-: 3G?
21:28 < sir_lewk> cool, and yeah, in america
21:28 < ports-> _Auron_:  yeah
21:28 < _Auron_> you don't have unlimited, you have a 5GB unstated limit
21:28 < ports-> sir_lewk:  not so much
21:28 < ports-> sir_lewk:  the only problem is!
21:29 < ports-> the app availability to do weird things like ssh, podcast, torrent,limewire  dont exist on the BB yet
21:29 < sir_lewk> hmm
21:29 < ports-> i miss being able to download podcasts directly to my cell phone on my Nokia N75
21:29 < i_c-Y> ReDeEm: dunno, take a look you might have to remove that side pannel
21:29 < ports-> but then again.. my web browsing experience is so much better on the BB because of the trackwheel pointer
21:29 < ReDeEm> bleh
21:30 < sir_lewk> I want something that I can hold in my hand, it's totally locked down, and I can email/ssh/surf the internet/anything with
21:30 < ports-> sir_lewk:  look at the Nokia E63
21:30 < sir_lewk> ok
21:30 < ports-> coincidentally.. AT&T doesnt recognize the E63 as a smart phone.
21:30 < sir_lewk> hmm, why not?
21:30 < ports-> so you can get the unlimited data for regular phones plan.. which is $15/month
21:30 < _Auron_> I want either the N97 or the G1
21:30 < ReDeEm> i_c-Y: by the way, this ram looks awesome too
21:30 < sir_lewk> nice
21:30 < ports-> and still get access to all of the real internet
21:31 < _Auron_> at dialup speed
21:31 < ports-> sir_lewk:  yep.. you save $15/month
21:31 < i_c-Y> ReDeEm: why dont you stop admiring it, and build the computer?
21:31 < ports-> sir_lewk:  http://www.nokia.com/A4136001?newsid=1280903
21:31 < ports-> sir_lewk:  if she doesnt need the BB email stuff.. im going to have her buy the Nokia E63.. because its got similar features, but a much more open OS, and itd be $15/month cheaper
21:32 < sir_lewk> I'll need to look into that
21:32 < i_c-Y> what, the free phones arent good enough for her?
21:32 < sir_lewk> looks nice
21:32 < ReDeEm> i_c-Y: im trying to figure out these plugs!
21:32 < ReDeEm> :P
21:32 < ReDeEm> HQ Audio 
21:32 < ReDeEm> one is labeled
21:32 < sir_lewk> whoa, badass awesome
21:32 < ReDeEm> the other two are not
21:32 < ports-> i_c-Y:  its her money.. if she wants to spend it i wont stop her..  i WILL try to help her spend it wisely though
21:33 < sir_lewk> I can see the moon out my window
21:33 < i_c-Y> isnt there a manual, ReDeEm ?
21:33 < sir_lewk> that's soo cool
21:33 <@E-J> ports-: how e63 differs from e71?
21:33 < ports-> E-J: not too different.. e63 is basically a cheaper build of the e71..
21:33 < ReDeEm> i_c-Y: not that came with it
21:33 < ports-> E-J: ive read a few articles on it and i cant think of anything that the e63 doesnt do that the e71 does
21:33 < ReDeEm> i have it pulled up online
21:34 < i_c-Y> ReDeEm: i found out what it is
21:34 < i_c-Y> http://forum.coolermaster.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=10422
21:35 < ports-> weird.. ive wrote  $1500 worth of checks in the last few days and none of them have posted on my account yet
21:37 < ReDeEm> sweet
21:37 < ReDeEm> I dont need those connectors at all
21:37 < i_c-Y> depending on what tv tuner you get, it could be useful. 
21:37 < i_c-Y> but probably not
21:38 < i_c-Y> since it cuts out one of the tuners
21:38 < i_c-Y> atleast according to that forum post
21:40 <@E-J> ports-: i'm comparing them in nokia.fi, only differences i found are e63 supports little more frequences in 2G/3G, works without charging little more time, is a 1 gram lighter and 20 cm^3 bigger
21:40 < ReDeEm> i_c-Y: yeah, who knows
21:40 < ReDeEm> its still pretty cool
21:40 < ReDeEm> I just tucked the wires back in the case
21:40 <@E-J> spoking time is 11 hours vs 10.5 hours and standby time 18 days vs 17 days
21:40 < ReDeEm> It also has an "HQ Audio" connector, which I am ignoring :)
21:41 < ports-> E-J: the casing on the e63 is plasticky too.. cheaper build
21:43 <@E-J> well, i wouldn't buy either of them
21:43 <@E-J> i have e90
21:46 < ReDeEm> ok, 2 of the standoffs I have have a little lip, the rest do not...
21:46 < ReDeEm> any ideas?
21:48 < i_c-Y> solder something onto your motherboard
21:48 < ReDeEm> O.o
21:48 < ReDeEm> no, its weird
21:48 < ReDeEm> idk
21:49 < ReDeEm> and it has none of those plastic clip-in ones
21:50 < ReDeEm> but now blen
21:50 < ReDeEm> nvm
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22:01 < Ox40Work> ok
22:01 < Damakaru> Oh, great, I started a war.
22:01 < Ox40Work> Why does my Mobo hang off the edge...
22:02 < Damakaru> ...In a channel that is supposed to be *helping* people.
22:03 < Ox40Work> http://ox40.us/mobo.png
22:03 < Ox40Work> The red = mounting hole, the black dots are screws at the moment
22:04 < Ox40Work> its like, hanging off the edge
22:18 -!- ReDeEm [~Kk@adsl-75-44-48-247.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds]
22:18 < _Auron_> hrm..
22:18  * _Auron_ replies to a job ad on craigslist
22:30 < i_c-Y> Ox40Work: how is that hanging off the edge?
22:31 < i_c-Y> i dont see a roblem with it anyway
22:31 < Ox40Work> i_c-Y: see how the last 3 on the right have no screws?
22:31 < Ox40Work> I can push on that edge and the board flexes
22:32 < i_c-Y> either its suposed to be that way or you mounted it wrong. 
22:34 < Ox40Work> i didnt mount it wrong
22:34 < Ox40Work> just, most cases come with clip-in standoffs
22:34 < ports-> E-J: if the E63 were available here in the US 2 months ago.. i would have bought it instead of my Blackberry Bold
22:35 < Ox40Work> http://70.169.170.235/acatalog/STANDOFF3large.jpg
22:36 < Damakaru> What are those?
22:37 < i_c-Y> its got all the proper mounting holes for ATX , microatx as far as i know
22:38 < i_c-Y> and they're labeled as such.
22:38 < Ox40Work> yeah
22:38 < Ox40Work> Damakaru: standoffs
22:39 < Ox40Work> you clip them into th emotherboard so that edge that I'm complaining about doesnt 'hang'
22:39 < Damakaru> Oh.
22:41 -!- Ovan [Ovan@dialup-4.252.94.35.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net] has joined #tcpa
22:41 < Ovan> does anybody have a weird'ish registry key under [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft]?
22:42 < _Auron_> eh?
22:42 < Ox40Work> Ovan: none...
22:43 < Ox40Work> I ahve none in that branch, just more branches
22:43 < Ovan> err
22:43 < Damakaru> Ovan:  Define "weird'ish."
22:44 < Ovan> nothing like [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/K=3000000] '=' = hex:"04 00 04 04"
22:46 < Ovan> Damakaru, weird entries
22:47 < Ovan> one sec
22:49 < Ovan> weird like... unusual entries or entries that seem to stare at you and say 'I have no read purpose but to annoy you'
22:49 < Ovan> *real purpose
22:50 < Ovan> such as [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\J9<000000] "é "=hex:05,40,45,45
22:50 < Damakaru> Sure you're not infected with something?
22:50 < Ovan> 1st one is what I have
22:50 < Ovan> 2nd one someone had since a fresh install of windows
22:51 < Ovan> unsure, AVG has not been turning up anything unusual
22:57 < Nikky> Why are you using windows.
22:58 < Ovan> Why shouldn't I be using windows?
22:59 < _Auron_> would working for someone as a personal assistant for their business be weird at $10+/hr? :P
23:01 < Nikky> no
23:01 < Nikky> That's called "interning"
23:01 < Ox40Work> No, its called "assisting"
23:01 < Ox40Work> And no, its not weird. Sounds fun.
23:02 < Nikky> It would to you.
23:02 < Nikky> GO back to selling nails.
23:02 < _Auron_> I basically do that for martin, but I found an ad on craigslist for a personal assistant since they're a busy business owner
23:03 < Damakaru> Nikky:  in advance, "...don't bug [him] about Linux or Macintosh."  :P
23:03 < Nikky> What did you quote.
23:03 < Nikky> I'm going to ignore that.
23:03 < _Auron_> I'd rather have two jobs personally working for a specific person than working for a slave-driving corporation that underpays people to deal with fucktarded people
23:03 < ports-> hi Nikky 
23:03 < Nikky> Hey ports- 
23:03 < ports-> _Auron_:  i have 1 job and make a ton of money
23:04 < Damakaru> Nikky:  That's his quote.  :P
23:04 < _Auron_> but the ad is like 2 1/2 weeks old
23:04 < _Auron_> ports-: but you also have a degree, ya?
23:04 < Nikky> Well, from some shitty uni
23:04 < ports-> well a few sort of
23:04 < ports-> if i go back to school for another year and half id have a masters too
23:05 < Nikky> ooo, a masters
23:05 < Nikky> you sure are smart
23:05 < ports-> im just waiting till work will pay for my masters and then im going back to school
23:05 < _Auron_> I went ahead and replied to the ad, and added a "thank for you taking the time to read my email" in a case they already found someone
23:05 < Nikky> cool
23:05 < ports-> Nikky:  and i have a bachelors of science, in mechanical engineering
23:06 < Nikky> BSs are for losers.
23:06 < Nikky> Nobody cool gets a BS
23:06 < ports-> the BS is a little different than the BE. bachelor of engineering
23:06 < _Auron_> Nikky: hence why it's called BS? :p
23:06 < Nikky> Exactly.
23:06 < Nikky> Whereas I'm getting a BA, which stands for "bad ass"
23:06 < ports-> wow i havent heard that joke before
23:06 < _Auron_> lol
23:06 < ports-> or BA BA BA sheep
23:07 < Nikky> Yes, we are sheep
23:07 < ports-> arts degree.. haha
23:07 < ports-> youre unemployable
23:07 < _Auron_> people are sheep
23:07 < Nikky> To getting high paying government jobs
23:07 < Nikky> And then working 10 hours a week <3
23:07 < ports-> i know unemployed MA's that would kill for half of my salary
23:08 < Nikky> Yes, but you're in like... Kansas.
23:08 < Nikky> So those MAs are retards for looking for jobs there.
23:08 < ports-> stlouis
23:08 < Nikky> Since nobody intelligent lives or works in the midwest.
23:08 < ports-> and seriously.. who gets an MA for writing
23:08 < ports-> Nikky:  fuck you
23:08 < Nikky> Gladly
23:08  * Nikky bends over
23:08 < ports-> you guys get degrees with no describable job
23:08 < Ovan> English degree's
23:08 < ports-> you have no idea what youll do when you get out of school other than write shit
23:09 < Nikky> At least we know we won't be converting corn into oil.
23:09 < ports-> a friend of mine with a BA in something writing.... she now works at an ad agency making posters
23:09 < Nikky> ;
23:09 < ports-> Nikky:  corn into ethanol
23:09 < Nikky> Close enough.
23:09 < Nikky> Way to kill the Earth.
23:09 < ports-> fuck the earth..
23:09 < _Auron_> "hey my name is Brian and i am 18 years old. I am into guys and i love riding roller coasters. thats about it."
23:09 < ports-> whats it ever done for me?
23:09 < Nikky> Lets you live.
23:09 < _Auron_> what the fuck kind of description is that
23:09 < Nikky> For one
23:09 < ports-> im leaving work now
23:09 < Nikky> _Auron_: A great one.
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23:13  * _Auron_ has a good idea for doing limb animation in his game
23:19 < Nikky> whores.
23:20 < i_c-Y> slut.
23:20 <@Remius> Hey guyz.
23:20 <@Remius> It's your old pal, Remius.
23:20 < i_c-Y> Remius Lupin?
23:20 <@Remius> Gimme some skin, homedizzles.
23:20 < i_c-Y> no, you warewolf.
23:20 <@Remius> i_c-Y sucks.
23:21 < Damakaru> The bot has become sentient.  It must be destroyed.
23:21 < i_c-Y> Remius sucks more.
23:21 <@Remius> Feel free to kick him for no reason, dudes.
23:21 < i_c-Y> i will not take rebellion from a bot!
23:21 < Nikky> !seen Treebeard
23:21 < Nikky> lame
23:21 <@Remius> I say we kill Kerm.
23:21 < i_c-Y> 86 is missing
23:22 <@Remius> All in favor, stick your middle finger up in the air.
23:22 < Nikky> i_c-Y: Well, duh
23:22 < Nikky> I realized that :)
23:22 < Nikky> So whoooo wants a cracker.
23:22 < Nikky> Does i_c-Y want a cracker?
23:22 < Nikky> Does i_c-Y want a cracker?
23:22 < Nikky> Yes he does!
23:23 < i_c-Y> :)
23:23 < Nikky> <3
23:24 < i_c-Y> <3
23:25 < Damakaru> *Generic romantic music swell.*
23:25 < Nikky> Don't make me stabbity stab you
23:27 < _Auron_> !qadd <Nikky> So whoooo wants a cracker. | <Nikky> Does i_c-Y want a cracker? | <Nikky> Does i_c-Y want a cracker? | <Nikky> Yes he does! | <i_c-Y> :) | <Nikky> <3 | <i_c-Y> <3 | <Damakaru> *Generic romantic music swell.* | <Nikky> Don't make me stabbity stab you
23:28 < _Auron_> orite
23:28 < Nikky> no quotebot :(((
23:28 < i_c-Y> :( Nikky 
23:28 < i_c-Y> * Received a CTCP STABBITYSTAB from Nikky
23:28 < Nikky> Mistake
23:28 < i_c-Y> :)
23:28 < Nikky> The keys are right next to each other.
23:28 < _Auron_> i and d?
23:28 < Nikky> yes
23:29 < Damakaru> What kind of keyboard layout are you using?
23:29 < Nikky> um, only the bestest
23:29 < _Auron_> mm sushi is yummy in my tummy, even still
23:29 < Nikky> Now go make me a sandwich.
23:29 -!- mode/#tcpa [+o Nikky] by Remius
23:29 <@Nikky> Because it's Judge Joe Brown time!
23:30 < Damakaru> FATAL:  You must be root to perform this action.
23:30 <@Nikky> I sense your xkcd reference, and choose to ignore it.
23:30 <@Nikky> Because xkcd sucks
23:30 <@Nikky> :)
23:30 < Damakaru> Lies.
23:30 < _Auron_> yet you read it and know it's an xkcd reference
23:31 < _Auron_> you're a closet xkcd fan
23:31 < _Auron_> closeted*
23:31 < _Auron_> COME OUT OF THE CLOSET NIKKY
23:31 < _Auron_> we still love you
23:32 < Damakaru> Some strange love you must have.
23:35 <+prime_> xkcd is overrated
23:36 < _Auron_> no, overrated is halo
23:37 < Damakaru> Agreed.
23:37 < Merthsoft> hi
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23:41 < Damakaru> *Upper-class Brittish accent:* Hello, sir, and welcome back to #TCPA.
23:44 < Damakaru> *Soft classical music.*
23:45 <@Nikky> I'm not closeted.
23:45 <@Nikky> I do read it when someone links me
23:45 <@Nikky> Well, sometimes
23:45 <@Nikky> Especially with popular strips that people will reference often
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23:54 <@Nikky> Your stab hurts me, Merthsoft 
23:54 <@Nikky> That's more like it.
23:55 <@Nikky> I suppose that's okay.
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