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[00:00:17] < Spengo\__> mormon female beauty manual?
[00:00:21] < Spengo\__> haaahahaha I gotta read this one
[00:01:20] < MrAndrsn> you want to learn how to apply your makeup correctly?
[00:01:35] < Spengo\__> I dunno, I just thought it was funny there was a special mormon one
[00:01:57] < MrAndrsn> if that exists, it's probably not called the "mormon female beauty manual"
[00:02:16] < Spengo\__> maybe it's a joke thing some mormon guy wrote
[00:02:20] < MrAndrsn> probably just some instructions to women with backgrounds that didn't involve applying makeup
[00:02:23] < Spengo\__> to be funny
[00:02:44] < CannibalO> more likely a joke
[00:03:29] < Spengo\__> whew
[00:03:37] < Spengo\__> I hit the button to disable wifi
[00:03:50] < Spengo\__> but I quickly hit it again and none of my applications noticed the short disconnect :D
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[00:05:15] < Spengo\__> my high school physics teacher was mormon
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[00:06:11] < Spengo\__> I wonder if we should tell sk8 his quit message fails again
[00:06:42] < CannibalO> again?
[00:06:48] < CannibalO> what was his last one?
[00:06:56] < Spengo\__> he always has quit messages that fail in some way or another
[00:07:03] < Spengo\__> I forget
[00:07:27] <+Tailsfan> phails
[00:07:40] < Spengo\__> furry!
[00:07:52] < CannibalO> tidbit
[00:11:20] < Spengo\__> brrrrrrrrrrrb
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[00:17:20] <@efneTI92> [Speng0] so when are we going to ban infolines?
[00:18:11] < CannibalO> he quit; said he would brb
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[00:18:26] < CannibalO> o nvm wrong person
[00:18:48]  * DSP_Lord slaps Speng0 around a bit with a large trout
[00:19:32] < Damakaru> Great, I feel even worse now contemplating this.  For all I know, failure may be my destiny.
[00:20:02] <+DSP_Lord> of course it is
[00:20:15] < CannibalO> probs, if not mos def
[00:20:41] < Damakaru> And from the looks of things now, it may definitely be.
[00:20:47] < CannibalO> but you might as well have fun doing it
[00:26:40] < MrAndrsn> what the heck?
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[00:49:29] < ports> hrm..
[00:49:34] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v ports] by efneTI80
[00:49:45] <+ports> my new case has some weird duct system on the side..
[00:50:31] <+ports> http://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggImage/productimage/11-133-046-09.jpg
[00:50:53] <+ports> am i supposed to put a fan in that? or is it just some duct system to try and get the processor/heatsink more air flow.
[00:51:05] <@Andy_J> That's not horribly uncommon
[00:51:15] <+Tari_> you can put a fan in it
[00:51:16] <@Andy_J> It ducts external air to the CPU fan
[00:51:24] <+ports> thats stupid
[00:51:35] <+Tari_> I've got one, but pulled it out since I got a decent aftermarket cooler
[00:51:37] <@Andy_J> These days, I would agree.
[00:51:42] <@Andy_J> Especially in just a case.
[00:52:19] < Netham45> that's so ugly
[00:52:21] <+ports> im replacing it with an 80mm fan
[00:52:25] <+ports> Netham45, my case is ugly?
[00:52:29] < Netham45> the duct is
[00:52:42] <+ports> yeah.. i have some clear 80mm fans
[00:52:45] <+ports> i bought 10 :)
[00:52:57] < Netham45> all my 80mm fans have LEDs in them
[00:53:10] < Netham45> I hate LEDs in computers
[00:53:18] <+ports> Netham45, so do mine.. thankfully they are clear LEDs
[00:53:33] < Netham45> do they put out clear light?
[00:53:40] <+ports> normal light
[00:53:43] < Netham45> agh
[00:53:45] < Netham45> ah *
[00:54:00] < Netham45> whenever I put a new fan in my case, I take the LEDS off
[00:54:09] <+Tyler2> ports, I have that exact case, except mine has no side window
[00:54:26] <+ports> Tyler2, the side window was a must for me
[00:54:31]  * Netham45 wonders if he could get a window for his current case
[00:54:42] <+ports> Netham45, yeah.. i paid $18 for 10 80mm fans at newegg
[00:55:03] < Netham45> ports, I think I paid like $20 for 10 at Micro Center
[00:55:14] <+ports> i only needed 3 (3 years ago when i built my first computer) .. but it was $2 + 3.99 shipping each fan.... and 3 fans was $18 .. or if i bought 10 fans i got free shipping and $1.80 fan
[00:55:27] < Netham45> nice
[00:55:35] <+ports> im not the sharpest tack in the box.... but even i saw that it was a good deal
[00:55:53] < Netham45> these ones I have have really sharp fins, asides from the LEDs, that's my only complaint
[00:55:55] < Netham45> they are silent
[00:56:04] < Netham45> but if you catch your finger in there, it'll cut it
[00:56:11] < i_c-Y> thats a horrible case, ports 
[00:56:17] < i_c-Y> actually, lemme look at it
[00:56:56] < Netham45> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811196021
[00:56:57] <+ports> question... so im going to put the top fan as an inlet.. itll go into the heatsink/cpu fan.   im also going to put a fan on the lower vents.. should that be an inlet or an outlet?
[00:56:57] < Netham45> that's my case
[00:57:58] < Netham45> the doors are a bit tacky, but it works well
[00:58:02] <+ports> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129021&Tpk=Antec%2bNine%2bHundred  - someone showed me this yesterday.. i really like it but its way out of my price range
[00:58:36] < Netham45> ooh
[00:58:44] < Netham45> asides from the LEDS, it looks cool
[00:59:48] < Netham45> I'd hate the ports on the top though
[00:59:59] <+ports> i like it.. because my case sits on the floor
[01:00:03] < Netham45> ah
[01:00:09] < Netham45> mines on a shelf above my desk
[01:00:09] <+ports> ok so lower fan.... inlet or outlet?
[01:00:18] <+Tari_> Best [Worst] Buy got owned: http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTQ5MSw4LCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==
[01:00:28] <+ports> FUCK FUCK FUCK i installed the inlet to the cpu backwards lol
[01:01:33] -!- Speng0 is now known as Spengo
[01:02:14] < Spengo> 1.26 kdr in cod4 now
[01:02:19] < Spengo> still meh, but going up
[01:02:47] < Netham45> The results of today’s foray into Best Buy house branded power supplies as it relates to these two power supplies (the Dynex DX-400WPS and Rocketfish RF-700WPS) leaves us with one piece of advice; if users are tempted to buy either of these power supplies, think again. While neither unit is a good, or even passable, power supply in relation to how it is advertised, the Dynex DX-400WPS is a particularly egregious offender in all asp
[01:02:47] < Netham45> ects of build quality, performance, and value that has no real redeeming value; especially with its $79.99 price tag.
[01:03:06] < Netham45> Spengo, I have like .4 KDR in Hl2DM
[01:03:10] < Spengo> lol fail
[01:03:11] < Netham45> lol
[01:03:20] < Spengo> i have like 2.0 in that game
[01:03:29] < Netham45> on the servers I play on though, I have like 150,000 kills
[01:04:27] <+ports> Netham45, what about the fan?
[01:04:54] < Netham45> ports, no idea
[01:05:12] < Netham45> my case has what I should do in the manual
[01:05:12] <+Tari_> front should be intake
[01:05:19] <+Tari_> vent in back
[01:05:26] <+ports> Tari_, its side...
[01:05:31] <+Tari_> oh, side
[01:05:33] < Netham45> my side is an intake
[01:05:36] <+Tari_> intake I'd say
[01:05:42] <+ports> the top fan on the side is intake.. to cpu fan.
[01:06:07] <+ports> but im thinking of using the lower one as an outlet.... since the 9600GT has a fan that points down, and the hdd fan is blowing air across the bottom
[01:06:22] <+ports> so it can pull air out from the bottom of the case
[01:06:27] <+ports> which will be hot
[01:06:55] < Netham45> water cooling ftw!
[01:07:27] <+Tari_> .73 kdr on my usual TF2 server
[01:08:16] <+Tari_> although since I switched from 'Tari' to '[CA] Tari', it went from .68 to .83
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[01:30:24] <+ports> this is weird
[01:30:34] <+ports> my core temp monitor is giving me 4 temperatures
[01:33:48] <+Tyler2> How many cores do you have?
[01:36:03] <+ports> 4
[01:36:18] <+ports> 49C, 45C, 42C, 44C
[01:36:34] <+Tyler2> Well, there you go
[01:36:40] <+ports> im not sure about the physical location of those temperatures...
[01:37:07] <+Tyler2> You idling?
[01:37:14] <+ports> if its in a 2x2 layout.. thatd probably mean 1 corner of my processor is hotter than the rest..
[01:37:23] <+ports> basically.. just running AIM, mirc, and IE
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[01:37:37] <+Tyler2> Thats a really hot idle, whats your ambient?
[01:38:06] <+ports> i came from a prescott.. where i idled at 48C... so this isnt hot to me
[01:38:18] <+Tyler2> But prescott can take hotter temperatures
[01:38:34] <+ports> in the room is probably 26C
[01:38:35] <+Tyler2> Mind you I don't know if this is normal, as I never run  a quad core
[01:38:59] <+Tyler2> Just don't overclock unless you get something better than stock ;)
[01:39:47] <+ports> i want one of those fancy temperature lcd systems
[01:40:09] <+Tyler2> Don't get one
[01:40:22] <+Tyler2> I have one and it just clutters your inside with cables
[01:40:35] <+Tyler2> I just use mine to run my fans at a low speed
[01:42:03] < Netham45> ports, don't overclock unless you have decent coolinh
[01:42:04] <+ports> ah
[01:42:16] <+ports> i like my fans to run at full tilt. so i just put them on 12V
[01:42:22] < Netham45> I put water cooling in mine so I could OC it
[01:42:36] <+Tyler2> But there are good air coolers now for OCing
[01:42:46] < Netham45> I still prefer water
[01:42:56] < Netham45> I have a thermometor in the water
[01:43:02] <+ports> um.. people have gotten the Q6600 up to 3.2ghz and more with AIR
[01:43:03] < Netham45> gives me a rough estimate of what my CPU is running at
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[01:43:15] < Netham45> you can do it with air, yes
[01:43:15] <+ports> im going to replace my stock cooler soon because i dont like its bracket system
[01:43:21] <+Tyler2> Um, well, ok
[01:43:33] < Netham45> but you run an increased risk of damaging it
[01:43:34] <+Tyler2> Running an OCed CPU on a homemade water cooling system doesn't sound the best...
[01:43:47] < Netham45> Tyler2, not really homemade
[01:43:49] <+ports> Tyler2, i used watercooling on my prescott for a year.
[01:44:01] < Netham45> all that's homemade is my resivwor
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[01:44:10] < Netham45> because the one that came with it broke
[01:44:23] <+Tyler2> You don't use glycol?
[01:44:26] <+ports> Tyler2, i took it out to clean the fan one day and just never put it back in because i was tired of dealing with refilling it and storage antifreeze-water solution, and worrying about leaks
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[01:45:37] <+Tyler2> Nethan, put some glycol or something with a higher heat transfer capacity
[01:45:59] <+ports> Tyler2, thats not quite true..
[01:46:05] <+ports> it has a higher heat capacity.
[01:46:34] <+Tyler2> I wouldn't be using an electrically conductive material anyways incase of a leak
[01:46:45] <+ports> your heat transfer rate will be about the same because its mainly water, and it still has to transfer through copper.
[01:46:51] <+Tyler2> So, I would use probably distilled water or something
[01:46:57] <+ports> Tyler2, distilled water is cheap
[01:46:59] < Netham45> I have distilled water
[01:47:14] < Spengo> distilled water tastes funny
[01:47:15] < i_c-Y> loldistilledwater
[01:47:19] < Spengo> because it doesn't taste
[01:47:29] < Netham45> it prevents mineral buildup
[01:47:30] <+ports> Spengo, im pretty sure drinking distilled water is bad for you
[01:47:38] < Spengo> I'm pretty sure I'm fine
[01:47:40] < Netham45> ports, I'm fairly sure that's not true
[01:47:43] <+Tyler2> Distilled water is asfe
[01:47:51] <+Tyler2> You just need to take your vitamins
[01:47:51] < Spengo> what would be in it that is harmful?
[01:47:57] < Netham45> nothing. ^.^
[01:47:59] < Spengo> supposedly it's pure h20
[01:48:01] < Spengo> h2o
[01:48:06] < Spengo> lol I typoed a 0
[01:48:30] < Spengo> but it does taste kinda weirds
[01:48:33] < Spengo> weird*
[01:48:33] <+ports> Spengo, nothing.. thats why i thought itd be bad.. theres no fluoride or anything else in it
[01:48:41] < Spengo> ew
[01:48:44] < Spengo> flouride in water?
[01:48:46] < Spengo> I hate that
[01:48:49] <+ports> Speler_, city water
[01:48:51] < Spengo> they don't do that in oregon
[01:49:04] <+ports> The drinking of purified water has been both advocated and discouraged for health reasons. Purified water lacks minerals and ions, such as calcium, which are normally found in potable (drinking) water, and which have important biological functions such as in nervous system homeostasis.
[01:49:04] < Spengo> we have awesome snow melt water here
[01:49:14] < Spengo> that doesn't mean it's bad for you
[01:49:23] < Spengo> it just means it doesn't have all the added stuff bottled water has
[01:49:37] <+Tyler2> ports, just take your daily vitamins and distilled water is actually better for you
[01:49:46] < Spengo> probably
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[01:49:52] < Spengo> though I doubt that either way it makes much a difference
[01:49:54] < ports> i dont take vitamins
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[01:49:57] <+Tyler2> Bottled water is often worse then tap water
[01:50:03] < Spengo> flouride though, that stuff makes water really nasty
[01:50:07] <+ports> this is weird... i just powered up my computer
[01:50:08] < Spengo> Tyler2, totally depends where you live
[01:50:18] <+ports> and XP didnt enable my 3rd drive
[01:50:23] < Spengo> in portland, the tap water is AWESOME so nobody give a shit about bottled
[01:50:30] < Spengo> in houston TX on the other hand...
[01:50:37] < Spengo> you do NOT want to drink that junk tha comes from the tap
[01:50:38] <+Tyler2> Where I work, all we can drink is bottled water
[01:50:51] <+ports> Tyler2, why?
[01:50:52] < Spengo> I don't think anyone would care if you took a paper cup to the bathroom sink
[01:50:58] < Spengo> if you desired
[01:51:06] <+ports> Spengo, no.. people just think its dirty
[01:51:18] < Spengo> houston tx water isn't dirty
[01:51:21] < Spengo> they just put so much shit in it
[01:51:33] < Spengo> more than just flouride, a whole crapton of stuff
[01:51:38] <+ports> Spengo, im talking about drinking water from the bathroom sink
[01:51:38] < Spengo> and it's nasty
[01:51:40] < Spengo> oh
[01:51:45] < Spengo> naaaahh
[01:52:34] < Spengo> water in houston feels kinda different when you take a shower too
[01:52:39] < Spengo> it's "harder" not sure if that makes sense
[01:52:57] <+ports> yeah
[01:53:19] <+ports> when your shampoo your hair, does it feel like the shampoo doesnt wash out?
[01:53:22] < Spengo> heh... all this talk of water reminds me of an old php mmo I used to play
[01:53:25] < Spengo> I think it was php anyways
[01:53:26] < Spengo> ogame
[01:53:38] < Spengo> heavy water was one of the resources you needed
[01:53:56] < Spengo> Deuterium Oxide
[01:54:01] < Spengo> or "deut" as we said
[01:54:02] <+ports> heavy water != hard water lol
[01:54:04] < Spengo> yeah
[01:54:08] <+ports> just making sure
[01:54:09] < Spengo> I just thought of it
[01:54:21] < Spengo> lol that would be nuts
[01:54:26] < Spengo> showering with heavy water
[01:55:46]  * Andy_J performs open-case surgery on a Palm Tungsten e
[01:55:52] <@Andy_J> I think it's quite dead =\
[01:56:10] < Spengo> I hope it was used
[01:56:12] <@Andy_J> I don't have the power cord for it, it used to charge over USB but it doesn't seem to anymore
[01:56:16] < Spengo> open-case surgery usually means no more warranty
[01:56:25] <@Andy_J> It's really freaking old
[01:56:29] < Spengo> lol ok
[01:57:10] <@Andy_J> and the power button just broke off the PCB
[01:57:10] <+ports> Andy_J, i still use a Sony CLIE T415
[01:57:55] <+ports> its fairly worthless as a PDA... palm os 4.. yick... but it makes a great ebook reader
[01:58:02] < Spengo> the cheapest tiny PC that has a fully featured web browser
[01:58:09] < Spengo> what would that be
[01:58:16] <+ports> cell phone
[01:58:23] <@Andy_J> smartphone
[01:58:23] < Netham45> is there a program I can use to make a .img of my C drive?
[01:58:25] < Spengo> not eeepc sized, pocket sized
[01:58:35] <+TD-Linux> Netham45, dd
[01:58:48] <+TD-Linux> ipod touch
[01:58:49] < Spengo> some smartphones don't get all 54mbps for the wifi though I don't think
[01:58:50] <@Andy_J> disk utility <_<
[01:59:03] <@Andy_J> Spengo: they wouldn't be fast enough to deal with it anyway
[01:59:08] <+TD-Linux> Spengo, or pandora
[01:59:12] < Spengo> I would want one that is
[01:59:28] < Spengo> and preferably running some form of linux
[01:59:37] < Spengo> I gotta have my airsnort!
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[02:01:10] < Spengo> surely an arm at 600MHz could handle it
[02:01:37] < Spengo> with v6 or v7 architechture
[02:01:51] <+ports> i dont really follow pdas anymore
[02:01:59] <+TD-Linux> pandora then
[02:02:03] <+ports> i kind of what a dell axim
[02:02:09] <+TD-Linux> if the company isn't vapor
[02:02:31] <+ports> the x51v
[02:02:43] <+ports> i wasnt about to pay $600 for a pda, when my laptop was $600
[02:03:30] < MrAndrsn> my laptop was $2700
[02:03:35] < MrAndrsn> and my pda was $600
[02:03:41] <+ports> lol
[02:03:55] < i_c-Y> x300 and what pda?
[02:04:08] < MrAndrsn> ipaq travel companion
[02:04:10] < MrAndrsn> they're like $350 now
[02:04:18] <+ports> i used to have a ipaq 3850
[02:04:22] < Grue> jeez
[02:05:00] <+Tyler2> Heh, PDA
[02:05:11] <+Tyler2> If I forget about something, it's not important enough anyways
[02:05:18] < Spengo> maybe
[02:05:19] < i_c-Y> i started using sunbird on my laptop
[02:05:23] < Spengo> maybe I'll just build my own :P
[02:05:26] < Spengo> lol
[02:05:50] <+ports> Tyler2, i just like my pda as an ebook reader
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[02:05:59] < Spengo> it's entirely possible, but the case would probably not be very sleek
[02:06:20] < Spengo> maybe fit it into an altoids box or something :O
[02:06:23] < chronomex> lol
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[02:06:26] <+ports> http://www.digit-life.com/articles/digest0110/sony_clie415.jpg
[02:06:40] < Spengo> yeah it wouldn't be sexy like that
[02:06:42] <+ports> http://www.digit-life.com/articles/sonycliet415/
[02:06:51] <+ports> it used to be the worlds thinnest aluminum pda
[02:06:55] <+Tyler2> My Tablet PC serves me just fine
[02:07:02] < Spengo> only 8MB memory?
[02:07:15] <+ports> Spengo, dude it runs palm os4.... its like 8 years old
[02:07:20] < Spengo> oh lol
[02:07:54] < Spengo> I bet that doesn't love modern internet browsers much
[02:08:03] <+ports> it came out in 2001
[02:08:07] <+ports> its not even internet capable
[02:08:12] <@Andy_J> I think this thing is thouroughly dead
[02:08:25] < Spengo> oddly enough, that's the only reason I'd want a PDA
[02:08:32] < Spengo> or pocket PC
[02:08:34] < Spengo> or whatev
[02:09:31] <@Andy_J> Should look into some way to do stuff with the screen
[02:10:32] <+ports> where did prime95 put the results
[02:10:40] <@Andy_J> /dev/null
[02:12:18] <+ports> im torture testing... trying to see how i i can get my processor temps
[02:12:43] <+ports> how do i specify which core the app runs on?
[02:13:04] <@Andy_J> task mgr
[02:13:57] <+ports> but it wont let me run multiple copies
[02:13:57] <+ports> weird
[02:14:38] < i_c-Y> isnt there a 4 core orthos?
[02:14:43] < i_c-Y> i know theres a dual core orthos
[02:15:27] <+ports> i dont see a quad
[02:15:29] < i_c-Y> what version are you using anyway?
[02:15:31] < i_c-Y> of prime95
[02:15:41] < i_c-Y> only 25 series ones do multicore by themselves
[02:15:44] <+ports> whatever the latest i found was
[02:15:56] <+ports> 2414
[02:16:43] < i_c-Y> use the beta
[02:16:51] < i_c-Y> also you can try uh... OCCT i think its called
[02:16:58] < i_c-Y> that supports multicore out of the box
[02:18:25] <+ports> found it
[02:18:33] <+ports> 4 core prime95.25
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[02:21:35] <+ports> k crept me up to 72C  with that 4 core stress test
[02:21:46] <+ports> i killed it after that.. 75C is my auto shutoff
[02:21:59] <+Tyler2> how much airflow do you have?
[02:22:15] <+ports> dunno?
[02:22:29] <+ports> im using the stock q6600 fan/heatsink
[02:22:37] <+Tyler2> Put a Zalman CNPS9500 on it, I had mine on my 125W TDP processo rand I never seen it about 55 in a 28 room
[02:22:49] <+Tyler2> above*
[02:22:52] <+ports> Tyler2, at full load?
[02:22:54] < i_c-Y> of course we are forgetting the insane variation in tools to measure cpu temperature.
[02:23:12] < i_c-Y> did you use stock thermal paste?
[02:23:14] < i_c-Y> err pad
[02:23:57] <+ports> i had my own thermal paste from my water cooler... the heatsink already had some on it... so i just spread that out and added a bit and made a nice thin layer
[02:24:20] <+Tyler2> Yes
[02:24:44] <+Tyler2> ports, pull your CPU and do it again
[02:24:52] <+Tyler2> Never mix your thermal paste
[02:25:20] < i_c-Y> ..............
[02:25:34] <+Tyler2> A little blob slightly bigger than a cooked grain of rice on the center and just locked it on, then it spreads the paste by itself
[02:26:00] <+Tyler2> But I have to go
[02:26:01] <+Tyler2> Later guys
[02:26:02] < i_c-Y> hint - read the thermal paste instructions.
[02:26:08] < i_c-Y> Tyler2's comment isnt always true
[02:26:13] <+ports> i_c-Y, long gone..
[02:26:14] < i_c-Y> ie with zalman's brush pastes.
[02:26:22] <+ports> i dont think mixing thermal paste is an issue..
[02:26:25] <+Tyler2> I use AS5 though
[02:26:28] <+Tyler2> It is
[02:26:35] <+TD-Linux> AS5 is the nastiest stuff on earth
[02:26:38] <+Tyler2> different compounds in them may cause them to repel
[02:26:39] < i_c-Y> you have to clean it off and reapply it.
[02:26:43] <+TD-Linux> works good, but nasty to put on
[02:26:47] < i_c-Y> TD-Linux: agreed.
[02:26:48] <+TD-Linux> /wtfcake.png
[02:26:48] <+TD-Linux> [20:57] <Lemming> en.. uhm.. joy
[02:26:51] <+TD-Linux> whoa
[02:27:05] <+Tyler2> AS5, you can't spread it, just a dot on the center of the die
[02:27:06] <+TD-Linux> sorry hit middle mouse button rather than spacebar :P
[02:27:19] <+ports> im not taking it apart right now..
[02:27:30] <+ports> that would be about 3 hours work.
[02:27:45] <+Tyler2> Later guys
[02:27:46] <+TD-Linux> when I put my AS5 on I spread it a bit
[02:27:54] <+TD-Linux> my cpu gets horribly hot
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[02:28:02] <+TD-Linux> but so does the heatsink, so the as5 is fine
[02:28:13] <+ports> ill take it apart when i get a new cooler.
[02:28:21] <+ports> that way i only have to snap it apart once
[02:28:24] <+TD-Linux> good idea.
[02:28:31] <+TD-Linux> is your computer quiet?
[02:28:38] <+ports> not really
[02:28:48] < i_c-Y> it takes you 3 hours to put on thermal paste?
[02:28:50] <+TD-Linux> nor is mine :/
[02:29:02] < i_c-Y> no wonder people hate you.
[02:29:04] <+TD-Linux> only two 120mm fans
[02:29:06] < i_c-Y> err...
[02:29:10] <+ports> hate me?
[02:29:28] <+ports> i_c-Y, id have to remove my drives... move wiring... removing everything from the board, then remove the board.
[02:29:55] <+ports> the board has a really shitty connector system for the heatsink
[02:29:59] <+ports> err not board.. Intel
[02:30:35] <+ports> http://www.supremelaw.org/systems/heatsinks/Intel%20Stock.2.jpg
[02:31:01] <+TD-Linux> I have one of those in my drawer
[02:31:12] <+TD-Linux> you don't need to remove the boarde to remove those
[02:31:19] <+TD-Linux> you just rotate the connectors 90 degrees and pull it up
[02:31:32] <+ports> mine wasnt locking in..
[02:31:41] <+TD-Linux> then you fail at installing heatsinks
[02:31:42] <+ports> thats why my computer kept shutting off when i put it together wednesday night.
[02:31:56] <+TD-Linux> did you have them rotated the right way?
[02:32:06] <+ports> i pushed pretty damn hard on it and the black pin wouldnt go all the way through..
[02:32:07] <+TD-Linux> they rotate 90 degrees, one way locked, one way unlocked
[02:32:12] <+TD-Linux> oh :/
[02:32:18] <+ports> yes i had them pointed right.
[02:32:30] < MrAndrsn> what the heck is wrong with this
[02:32:41] <+TD-Linux> human error
[02:32:53] < MrAndrsn> apparently filezilla sucks too much to upload a file with a slow connection
[02:33:24] < MrAndrsn> and for some odd reason pasting to nano does something that it shouldn't
[02:33:59] < Netham45> how can I get the geometry of a disk in Linux?
[02:34:27] < MrAndrsn> so if anyone asks why the forum doesn't work, it's because filezilla sucks
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[02:34:44] < chronomex> Netham45: try cfdisk ?
[02:34:51] <+ports> TD-Linux, i just need to find a nice cooler for this board
[02:34:53] < i_c-Y> fdisk -l
[02:34:57] <@Andy_J> cat /proc/partitions
[02:35:33] < i_c-Y> you can also use parted.
[02:35:48] < i_c-Y> MrAndrsn: do you have ssh?
[02:35:51] < i_c-Y> if so just scp that shit
[02:36:03] <+TD-Linux> I have a zalman flower shpaed one
[02:36:05] < MrAndrsn> putty
[02:36:06] <+TD-Linux> the one with the 120mm fan
[02:36:13] <+TD-Linux> it's nice but others perform better
[02:36:15] < i_c-Y> MrAndrsn: so just scp that shit up
[02:36:18] < i_c-Y> with like winscp
[02:36:21] < i_c-Y> or just scp
[02:36:28] <+ports> TD-Linux, i want the best performance for sub $50
[02:36:31] <@Andy_J> MrAndrsn: it's probably auto-tabbint
[02:36:47] <@Andy_J> this is why you never upload over live files >_>
[02:36:47] <+TD-Linux> I think my zalman flower cost like $35
[02:36:48] < i_c-Y> ports: thermalright ultra 120 is at like 55 i think
[02:36:55] <+TD-Linux> the one that's mostly aluminum
[02:36:58] < i_c-Y> though that thing is HUEG.
[02:37:06] <+TD-Linux> I have an offical Intel board that would be torn to shreds by the solid copper one
[02:37:06] < i_c-Y> the thermaltake big typhoon vx is good but loud
[02:37:25] < i_c-Y> noctuna has some nice ones that hard looked at
[02:37:42] < Netham45> [sectorsbytesize, sectorsperhead, heads, cylinders]
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[02:37:49] < Netham45> I'm trying to get those from the geometry of a drive
[02:38:01] <@Andy_J> Nothing uses CHS anymore.
[02:38:04] < Netham45> I have cylinders
[02:38:06] <@Andy_J> It's all LBA.
[02:38:19] < Netham45> dosbox uses geometry
[02:38:34] <@Andy_J> what does dosbox have to do with linux?
[02:38:44] < Netham45> I have the drive mounted on a linux box?
[02:38:52] < i_c-Y> its not real chs
[02:38:57] <+TD-Linux> ummmmmmmm
[02:38:57] < Netham45> with an image I'm trying to mount in dosbox
[02:39:02] < i_c-Y> its just some randomized basterdization faking of chs
[02:39:03] <+TD-Linux> you don't need that silly
[02:39:12] <@Andy_J> just mount a working directory
[02:39:19] <+TD-Linux> no you can mount images too
[02:39:22] <+TD-Linux> without CHS
[02:39:30] <+TD-Linux> why on earth do you need it?
[02:39:34] < Netham45> I was told to get the image from
[02:40:04] < Netham45> dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/media/NethamUSB
[02:40:14] < Netham45> and that I could mount that in dos box
[02:40:30] <+TD-Linux> perfect
[02:40:31] <+TD-Linux> yup
[02:40:36] <+TD-Linux> imgmount in dosbox I beleive
[02:40:39] < Netham45> yes
[02:40:44] < Netham45> but imgmount wants the geometry
[02:40:48] < Netham45> or what it calls geometry
[02:40:57] <+TD-Linux> no it doesn
[02:40:58] < MrAndrsn> Nikky: you here?
[02:41:06] <+TD-Linux> imgmount c /media/NethamUSB
[02:41:08] < Netham45> TD-Linux, it tells me it does when I try the command
[02:41:25] <+TD-Linux> oh you know what
[02:41:25] < Netham45> I moved the image to my windows PC if it matters
[02:41:30] <+TD-Linux> I bet it wants the partition table ?
[02:41:34] < Netham45> ooh
[02:41:36] < Netham45> frick
[02:41:43] <@Andy_J> do sda not sda1
[02:41:50] < Netham45> 'k
[02:42:25] <+TD-Linux> oh I remember this
[02:42:26] <+TD-Linux> wait
[02:42:30] <+TD-Linux> it will work I think
[02:42:31] < MrAndrsn> what's the deal with this connection??? I just watched an entire episode of the office, but I can't even upload more than 70kB of an 85kB file via ftp
[02:42:34] <+TD-Linux> I remember doing it and it worked
[02:42:35] <+TD-Linux> http://www.dosbox.com/wiki/IMGMOUNT
[02:42:52] <+TD-Linux> figure out the exact number of bytes
[02:43:08] <+TD-Linux> then divide it by (512*63*16)
[02:43:09] < MrAndrsn> let's see if a 15KB zipped file is small enough for this nonsense
[02:43:16] <+TD-Linux> to get X mentioned in teh wiki
[02:43:17] < i_c-Y> MrAndrsn: how are you transfering it?
[02:43:25] <@Andy_J> XD! I haven't used my powerbook in *ages*
[02:43:31] <@Andy_J> especially the harddrive with gentoo on it
[02:43:32] < i_c-Y> scp is amazing go use it.
[02:43:34] <@Andy_J> and it still works great
[02:43:42] <@Andy_J> swapped the hard drive and booted it right up
[02:43:48] <@Andy_J> old gentoo is ooooold
[02:43:56] < i_c-Y> the only thing i use dosbox for is sim city
[02:44:05] <+ports> ok time to reboot
[02:44:07] <+ports> and install vista
[02:44:12] <@Andy_J> Xfce bitches
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[02:44:24] < MrAndrsn> wonderful.
[02:44:29] < i_c-Y> how old is the gentoo install? xfce 4.2 age?
[02:44:33] < MrAndrsn> I didn't change a thing besides add some text and now it gives a 500 error
[02:44:39] <@Andy_J> I dunno
[02:44:45] <@Andy_J> and I just launched two more gaims oops
[02:44:53] <@Andy_J> now what is my right-click key
[02:45:34] <+TD-Linux> sim city for dos?
[02:45:35] <+TD-Linux> lame
[02:45:36] < chronomex> haha
[02:45:37] <+TD-Linux> I have it for OS/2
[02:45:38] <@Andy_J> ajanata@armstrong ~ $ cat /etc/*release
[02:45:38] <@Andy_J> Gentoo Base System version 1.12.4
[02:45:39] <+TD-Linux> = win
[02:45:51] <@Andy_J> whatever that dates it as
[02:46:00] <+TD-Linux> eek there are weird flashes outside my window
[02:46:04] <+TD-Linux> is someone taking pictures in the dark?
[02:46:15] <@Andy_J> Xfce 4.2.3.2
[02:46:21] <+TD-Linux> http://tinyurl.com/2kho9m or http://tinyurl.com/3n4p2f or http://tinyurl.com/5nf4yo
[02:46:24] <+TD-Linux> which one should I buy?
[02:46:33] < i_c-Y> nice.
[02:46:40] < i_c-Y> the system in my basement should be on 4.2.1 i think
[02:46:58] < i_c-Y> can't process your request
[02:47:01] <+TD-Linux> /me finds it funny that everyone still like Windows XP which is far older
[02:47:04] <@Andy_J> it's a 233 MHz G3 with 384 MB
[02:47:12] <+TD-Linux> i_c-Y, try again, DX is laaaame
[02:47:22] <@Andy_J> and a 4 gig drive, 700 ish megs of which are an OS 9 install
[02:47:35] <@Andy_J> (which it needs at least a minimal OS 9 too bootstrap into linux since it's an Old World Mac)
[02:48:43] <@Andy_J> crappy passive LCD XD
[02:48:57] <@Andy_J> still gets a couple hours on battery though
[02:49:53] < i_c-Y> i like the 10.67 one , TD-Linux 
[02:50:00] < i_c-Y> looks more durable and the length seems good
[02:51:11] < MrAndrsn> do zipping programs change some of the characters?
[02:51:18] <@Andy_J> they shouldn't
[02:51:22] <@Andy_J> that would defeat the purpose
[02:51:50] < MrAndrsn> I used peazip to zip the forum to 15KB, uploaded that, gzip -d forum.gz  'd it, gave it the right permissions, 500
[02:52:03] < Netham45> TD-Linux, from what I've heard, it's better to stay at svideo, the blurring acts as a sort of anti-aliasing, but I can't say that for sure, I've never really played a wii
[02:52:04] < MrAndrsn> then eventually I got the straight ftp to work with the entire file and THAT worked
[02:53:29] <+TD-Linux> Netham45, but then I don't get 480p
[02:53:40] <+TD-Linux> I can always unfocus my projector :P
[02:53:48] < MrAndrsn> I can't wait for my 7mbps
[02:53:50] < Netham45> lol
[02:54:07] < Netham45> TD-Linux, how do I get the info I need for that equation?
[02:54:21] <+TD-Linux> find out how many bytes your file is :P
[02:54:43] < Netham45> 512 MB (536870912 bytes)
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[03:00:08] < Damakaru> Here is now what I figure:  it couldn't hurt.  If I find someone to put my faith into, either way, either something's going to happen after I die or something's not.  And if something's not, then why does it matter, 'cause I'm not going to even be in existence anymore to care?
[03:01:13] < Netham45> Damakaru, go scientologist. TCPA needs a scientologist.
[03:01:28] < Damakaru> I couldn't take that seriously.
[03:01:33] < Damakaru> :P
[03:01:37] < Netham45> :P
[03:01:49] < chronomex> haha
[03:03:33] < Damakaru> Besides, the last thing I need to do is piss off them off.  :)
[03:03:59] < chronomex> who?
[03:04:07] < chronomex> what's going on?
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[03:04:57] <@efneTI92> [Tari] Remember, remember the 5th of November
[03:05:02] < Damakaru> The Church of Scientology, 'cause don't they got the bad-ass lawyers, and they can literally get away with having people murdered?
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[03:05:33] < Damakaru> (Damn insanity plea!)
[03:05:52] < chronomex> oh
[03:06:02] < chronomex> your first line is the "god is a reasonable bet" thing
[03:07:33] < Damakaru> Yeah, that is the route I am wanting to go, but logic questions keep screwing that up for me.
[03:08:16] < Damakaru> And I've never gotten faith without logic to work for me before.
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[03:12:27] <+ports> i think the jumper settings on my IDE are wrong
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[03:40:25] <+KermM> :D
[03:41:23] < i_c-Y> http://news.wired.com/dynamic/stories/T/TEXAS_ANTS?SITE=WIRE&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2008-05-14-15-16-25
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[03:48:08] <@efneTI92> [IDL^LordM] *waves hand* You will give me +v.
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[04:00:52] <+ports> ok i hate this computer
[04:01:34] <+ports> it says PATA 1 x ATA100 2 Dev. Max
[04:01:46] <+ports> i have an hdd and dvd burner hooked up to it.... itll detect only the hdd
[04:02:15] <+TD-Linux> make the hdd primary and the ata secondary
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[04:03:09] < i_c-Y> are the dvd burner and hard drives ide?
[04:03:13] <+ports> yes
[04:03:23] < i_c-Y> why are you using ide parts in the new pc?
[04:03:27] <+ports> the IDE is closer to the mobo (the middle of the cable) and set to Master.
[04:03:36] < i_c-Y> just use cable select.
[04:03:37] <+ports> the dvd burner is set to Slave and at the end of the cable.
[04:04:03] <+ports> the hdd was on cable select earlier.. and it took over... the bios didnt show the dvd burner
[04:04:13] < i_c-Y> did you put them both on cable select?
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[04:04:17] <+ports> no
[04:04:26] <+ports> Master/Slave
[04:05:00] < i_c-Y> put them both on cable select and dont bother
[04:05:14] <+ports> i dont know if thatll change anything but ok
[04:05:37] < i_c-Y> generally cable select works fine and it keeps people's mouths shut.
[04:05:44] <+ports> on a side note... my usb doesnt work either
[04:05:53] < i_c-Y> did you install chipset drivers and what not?
[04:06:00] <+ports> theres no driver conflicts..
[04:06:27] <+ports> fucking mobo manual.. it told me to reset the CMOS before i installed it in the computer... that was such a bad idea
[04:07:16] <+ports> ok fixed usb now
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[04:08:47] < i_c-Y> i dont think he realizes theres no difference if he wiped the cmos or not
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[04:09:15] <@efneTI92> [DSP_Lord] *waves hand* You will give me +v.
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[04:10:12] < i_c-Y> if there is, its because hes incompetent in setting bios settings.
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[04:17:18] < i_c-Y> nap tiem
[04:17:21] < i_c-Y> later guyz
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[04:18:26] <+ports> ok usb is working now
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[04:35:31] <+ports> everything is on cable select...nothing
[04:36:59] <+Tari> FF3 RC1
[04:37:32] < Damakaru> It is release candidate now?  Yay.
[04:38:00] < Damakaru> Yes, trolls, I know what you will say.  "Firefox sucks" and whatnot.
[04:38:32] < Damakaru> Ahead of time, I say, to each his own.
[04:38:42] <+ports> i use firefox
[04:38:51] <+Tari> ..
[04:38:56] <+ports> i spent about 20 minutes properly copying over my firefox profile from my old computer to my new one
[04:39:03] <+Tari> my virtual machine made me do it before my real one
[04:39:21] <+Tari> my real system hasn't figured out there's an update yet
[04:41:03] < Netham45> firefox sucks
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[04:51:51] <+ports> my IDE isnt worknig properly.. damnit
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[05:05:06] <+ports_> wheres icy?
[05:05:34] <@Andy_J> 00:18:27 < i_c-Y> nap tiem
[05:05:35] <@Andy_J> 00:18:29 < i_c-Y> later guyz
[05:08:03] <+ports_> damn.. cuz i wanna punch him in the nuts =/
[05:08:15] <+ports_> his whole "use cable select" thing didnt work
[05:09:45] <@Andy_J> ewwwww
[05:09:49] <@Andy_J> never use cable select <_<
[05:10:00] <@Andy_J> I've never had it work correctly.
[05:10:12] <+ports_> Andy_J, lol.. i had stuff set to master/slave... and my bios wont see my dvd burner.. it only sees the IDE hdd
[05:10:42] <@Andy_J> sounds like a bad drive or cable
[05:11:04] <+ports_> nope
[05:11:10] <@Andy_J> or mobo
[05:11:22] <+ports_> cable worked fine with the dvd burner hooked up on the end port...
[05:11:34] <+ports_> added the hdd to the middle port. and thats when the burner disappeared
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[05:11:45] <+ports_> burner still has power so it opens/closes... and i burned a dvd on it earlier.
[05:11:46] <@Andy_J> master goes on the end
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[05:12:09] <@Andy_J> ... which should be the DVD burner in this case
[05:12:15] <+ports_> hrm
[05:12:28] <@Andy_J> ... you shouldn't have an optical drive on the same channel as a hard drive if you can help it anyway
[05:12:41] <+ports_> i can leave the HDD on cable select and bump the dvd burner to Master
[05:12:50] <+ports_> Andy_J, limitations.. only 1 IDE port
[05:12:55] <@Andy_J> Fail.
[05:13:11] < chronomex> Andy_J: why not?
[05:13:36] <@Andy_J> maybe it doesn't matter anymore but optical drive didn't used to support the faster UDMA modes
[05:13:43] <@Andy_J> which in turned slowed the hard drives down
[05:13:46] <+ports_> Andy_J, that aws fixed a long time ago
[05:13:46] < chronomex> I doubt it matters now
[05:14:00] <@Andy_J> because the channel can only run at the fastest common speed
[05:14:17] <@Andy_J> it's still not a good idea anyway
[05:14:30] <@Andy_J> because data has to go from the hard drive to RAM back over the same cable to the burner
[05:15:12] <+ports_> doesnt matter. its not the primary drive anywa
[05:15:42] <+ports_> i would like not to have to buy another dvd burner for this
[05:16:01] <+ports_> its a nice liteon 20x dual layer + lightscribe burner
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[05:26:49] < MrAndrsn> quick
[05:26:58] < MrAndrsn> someone write a sentence filled with spelling mistakes
[05:27:08] < chronomex> you're going to wine
[05:30:23] <+ports_> why
[05:30:30] <+ports_> r u gunna mik a spill chickr
[05:30:35] <+ports_> Error! INI file not found
[05:31:02] <+ports_> Error! INI file not found
[05:31:05] <+ports_> arghz
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[05:32:05] < _Digital> anyone have a good site that I can look for liquid cooling hardware
[05:32:14] < chronomex> google
[05:32:30] <+ports_> _Digital, i have some old hardware id like to sell for watercooling
[05:32:31] < _Digital> then I have to shift through crap to figure out what sites are decent
[05:32:54] <+ports_> http://www.xpcgear.com/awc1cooler.html
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[05:33:31] <+ports_> theoretically you could use this water cooler on any processor. you just need the proper sized cpu clamp for it
[05:33:59] < _Digital> currently running a E4300, will probably go with teh Q6600
[05:34:15] <+ports_> i just built a system with a Q6600 this week.. its amazing
[05:34:16] < _Digital> on a P965 chipset so I have a hot MCH
[05:35:05] <+ports_> nice.. im thinking about building my own watercooler... but it wouldnt be nice/small
[05:35:49] <+ports_> because id be crazy and build something that had a flowrate of 1gpm and had a big enough reservoir that i could dump ice in it :)
[05:36:27] < _Digital> I honestly need somehtign similar
[05:37:32] < _Digital> parents don't run AC much. Even if they did, I can easily be dealing with 90 to 95 degrees Fahrenheit ambient temperatures with our summers fast approaching
[05:38:24] <+ports_> _Digital, are you interested in that Kingwin i showed you?
[05:38:51] < _Digital> don't think it'll have the capacity for what I'm doing
[05:38:57] <+ports_> _Digital, i used it for a year on a Prescott 3ghz.. never went over 55C at full load.. the kit is still all together and works well.
[05:39:21] < _Digital> how loud is it
[05:39:26] <+ports_> i think i idled at 45-46C.. my idle to full load swing was only 9C... and the Prescotts put out a LOT of heat
[05:39:29] < _Digital> I'm sensitive to noise
[05:39:52] <+ports_> i think the internal fan is an 80mm, and the coil fan is 80mm.. it was pretty quiet.
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[05:40:05] <@efneTI92> [Sir_Lewk] Give me a biscuit, I will do science to it
[05:40:12] <+ports_> there is a fan control on the reservoir... i never saw a difference on it from low speed to high speed so i always kept it on low speed
[05:40:29] < _Digital> thats why pentier + large radiator + large reservoir is something I'm looking at
[05:41:56] < _Digital> I don't know the heat output of the MCH, on my board, but my IR thermometer has pegged its heatsink at about 200F idle with a fsb of 365
[05:42:10] < Sir_Lewk> KHHAAANNNN!
[05:43:31] <+ports_> _Digital, youre crazy..
[05:43:49] <+ports_> i have an Abit IP35P ... my board temps read at 25-35C
[05:44:25] < chronomex> I don't let my laptop get over 45C and my friends say I'm obsessive
[05:44:50] < chronomex> I would say 40C but for some reason it's now 42C
[05:45:26] < _Digital> hey, at stock speed (200) the MCH get upward of 150 when ambient is down at 60F
[05:45:56] <+ports_> i need to get this damn IDE working
[05:46:13] < chronomex> IEDs are bad for you
[05:46:22] < Sir_Lewk> integrated development environment?
[05:46:32] <+ports_> IDE harddrive....
[05:46:34] < Sir_Lewk> ah
[05:46:35] < chronomex> Sir_Lewk: he's working on a roadside bomb
[05:46:36] < chronomex> databomb
[05:46:39] < Damakaru> Yes... they suck.
[05:46:40] < Sir_Lewk> but of course
[05:46:41] < Damakaru> SATA rocks.
[05:47:05] <+ports_> Sir_Lewk, im trying to use an old IDE hdd & burner on my new abit ip35p... and itll only see 1 device on the IDE... not both
[05:47:25] < chronomex> my desktop only works with one FDD, which really cheeses me off
[05:47:34] < Damakaru> But I am just saying that because my SATA drive is two times faster than my IDE.
[05:47:37] < chronomex> I need to be able to use my 5.25/3.5 combo drive :(
[05:47:47] < Damakaru> Er, wait, now.
[05:47:48] < Damakaru> * no
[05:48:40] <+ports_> do IDE to sata converters really work?
[05:48:44] < Damakaru> My IDE gets thirty- or forty-something megabytes a second; my SATA gets fifty-something.
[05:48:59] < Damakaru> Good question.
[05:49:01] < chronomex> ports_: SATA and PATA both use the same protocol, just over a different bus
[05:49:47] <+ports_> chronomex, cool
[05:50:00] < chronomex> I think it's SCSI or something similar, in fact
[05:50:09] <+ports_> converter will cost $10-15.... a new sata dvd burner will be $30
[05:50:12] < Damakaru> Note to self - never ask for spiritual help in a forum.  It always turns bad.
[05:50:14] < Sir_Lewk> my fan is loud as balls right now
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[05:51:33] <+ports_> 4gb of ram is awesome :)
[05:51:39] < _Digital> Damakaru, I have 4 IDEs over 1394b that get 40 to 65 MiB/sec
[05:52:07] < Damakaru> Then again, your hardware does not suck balls like mine.
[05:52:19] <+ports_> my hardware is awesome
[05:52:35] <+ports_> Q6600, 4gb ram, 2 sata hdds + ide hdd, geforce 9600gt 512mb.
[05:53:01] < MrAndrsn> that's kind of like my hardware
[05:53:04] < MrAndrsn> but mine is way better
[05:53:10] <+ports_> MrAndrsn, what do you have?
[05:53:22] < MrAndrsn> Q6600
[05:53:23]  * Damakaru covets lots of money to buy these things.
[05:53:36] <+ports_> MrAndrsn, did you overclock?
[05:53:43] < MrAndrsn> raptor 150
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[05:55:06] < MrAndrsn> I actually am going to go with my other hardware to tell you how much better it is
[05:55:20] <+ports_> you mean lie?
[05:55:21] < MrAndrsn> 2x2.3GHz quad core harpertowns
[05:55:25] < MrAndrsn> 4GB RAM
[05:55:35] < MrAndrsn> 4x500GB SATA hard drives in RAID 2
[05:55:39] < MrAndrsn> RAID 5*
[05:55:46] <+ports_> xeon heh
[05:55:52] < MrAndrsn> 2 of them
[05:56:00] < MrAndrsn> 2*4 is 8
[05:56:09] < MrAndrsn> 8 is more than 4
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[05:56:17] <@efneTI92> [Spengo] so when are we going to ban infolines?
[05:59:56] < _Digital> seems like Q6600's are popular
[06:00:08] < _Digital> what RAM and timings are you both running
[06:00:13] <+ports_> cheaper.. solid performance.. easily overclockable
[06:00:17] < Spengo> lmao @ the office
[06:00:21] < MrAndrsn> my RAM is 800MHz I believe
[06:00:23] < MrAndrsn> Spengo: YEAH!
[06:00:26] <+ports_> PC6400 Patriot Extreme Performance...
[06:00:27] < MrAndrsn> that was INSANE
[06:00:34] < Spengo> shush
[06:00:38] < Spengo> I haven't finished
[06:00:41] < MrAndrsn> oh gosh
[06:00:44] < MrAndrsn> how much longer?
[06:00:53] < Spengo> uh wow it's long
[06:00:53] <+ports_> its 5-5-5-12 timing.. i havent changed it yet
[06:00:56] < Spengo> about 40 minutes
[06:01:00] < Spengo> since I only watched the intro thing
[06:01:03] < MrAndrsn> oh
[06:01:09] < MrAndrsn> be sure to watch the outro thing as well
[06:01:22] < Spengo> yeah always
[06:01:38] < MrAndrsn> the entire episode is hilarious AND the story takes so many twists and turns that it would make for a good soap opera
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[06:02:26] < Spengo> sitcoms are always almost soap operas
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[06:03:27] < Spengo> hahaha money in his shoe
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[06:07:22] < Spengo> because she stinks... with her... ways and her... head...
[06:07:34] < _Digital> I'm running my RAM at 750 MHz 4-4-3-8
[06:07:47] < _Digital> Haven't tried to get it faster
[06:08:06] < Spengo> nice timings, did you lower the speed?
[06:09:03] < _Digital> those are the timings rated at 800 MHz, I can't push it father without better cooling unfortunately
[06:11:07] < Sir_Lewk> caffeine: check
[06:11:20] < Sir_Lewk> tylenol: check
[06:11:26] < Sir_Lewk> more caffeine: check
[06:11:30] < Spengo> lol! I like the gophone commercial
[06:11:31] < _Digital> headache?
[06:11:43] < Sir_Lewk> I am no ready to commence weekend scheduling :D
[06:11:51] < _Digital> hehehe
[06:11:56] < _Digital> I have a knack for that
[06:11:59] < _Digital> but enjoy
[06:12:14] < Sir_Lewk> the tylenol is for the headaches that result from absurd amounts of caffeine
[06:12:17] < Spengo> quabbity ashwitz
[06:12:19] < Spengo> lmfao
[06:12:36] < Spengo> what DO I do here? O_O
[06:12:56] < Sir_Lewk> and the caffeine has the effect of making the tylenol *very* quick acting, resulting in a... pleasant effect
[06:13:20] < _Digital> cracker
[06:14:17] < Sir_Lewk> you are just jealous of my higher state of being
[06:14:32] < _Digital> hmm, do I need 2 or 3 UPS's
[06:14:35] <+ports_> ok
[06:14:45] < Sir_Lewk> I have gotten more coding done *way* strung out on caffeine than in the rest of my life
[06:14:51] <+ports_> so my computer has 7.1 surround.... but i dont have a surround sound system
[06:15:02] < _Auron_> lol
[06:15:10] < _Auron_> I have 5.1
[06:15:15] <+ports_> i hear the sounds of a register
[06:15:20] < Damakaru> Can't believe 'cracker' is the best word we could have came up with.  :P
[06:16:02] < chronomex> ports_: cash register, heater vent, or data manipulation area?
[06:16:04] < _Digital> Xbox 360 with my laptop and HDDs puts my current one into a panic. Granted I have a network switch and USB hub, externa monitor
[06:16:14] <+ports_> chronomex, heater vent?
[06:16:22] < chronomex> they're also called registers
[06:16:33] < chronomex> I haven't a clue why
[06:16:33] < _Digital> desktop needs to be put onto a UPS with that external monitor
[06:16:39] <+ports_> _Digital, for a while i had my Prescott tied into my house's AC system... it was great
[06:16:49] < _Digital> I've considered that
[06:16:56] < _Digital> believe it or not
[06:17:15] <+ports_> it worked great.. beat the pants off my air cooling
[06:17:25] <+ports_> err water cooling
[06:17:32] < _Digital> is that system you suggested capable of cooling the equivalent of 2 CPUs?
[06:17:32] < chronomex> freon is the shit man
[06:17:38] < _Digital> you have*
[06:17:50] < chronomex> illegal chemicals always work the best
[06:17:50] <+ports_> _Digital, 2.. nope. heatsink is only big enough to cover 1 cpu
[06:18:17] <+ports_> _Digital, it has a VGA heatsink which is a little bit smaller.. but that could probably be used on the 2nd processor
[06:18:21] < _Digital> well the MCH is outputing as much heat as the CPU
[06:18:47] < Spengo> lmao and jim has a wad of cash too
[06:18:57] <+ports_> whos jim
[06:19:11] < Spengo> he's just this guy, you know?
[06:19:17] <+ports_> according to?
[06:19:34] < Spengo> wha?
[06:20:41] < Sir_Lewk> why am I a cracker?
[06:20:46] < _Digital> http://www.frozencpu.com/cat/l3/g30/c103/s753/list/p1/Liquid_Cooling-Coolant_Additives-Distilled_Water-Page1.html
[06:20:52] < Damakaru> When everyone is on this subject, I feel like I'm the poor guy sitting there by his beat-up station wagon, while everyone else is showing off, comparing thing, and exchanging tips on their new, shiny, pimped-out, refurbished, higher-than-ten-thousand-dollar vehicles.
[06:21:12] < chronomex> Damakaru: I'm with you
[06:21:14] < _Digital> wtf? I can buy 2.5 gl or distilled water for 2 or three bucks for petes sake
[06:21:40] < chronomex> rainwater is usually distilled too .
[06:21:53] < _Digital> Damakaru. Your day will come. We've all been there
[06:22:22] < _Digital> chronomex. Do you know how much smog there is wehre I live?
[06:22:30] < chronomex> _Digital: no
[06:22:44] < _Digital> it takes a really big storm to get teh skies clean
[06:22:49] < Sir_Lewk> Damakaru, yeah
[06:22:55] < _Digital> which means that all comes down in teh rain water
[06:23:03] < Sir_Lewk> I hate it when people start blabbing about hardware
[06:23:06] < _Digital> I doubt its pure
[06:23:19] < Sir_Lewk> hardware is boring, it's what you do with it that's interesting
[06:23:50] < _Digital> I know what I want to do with mine. I just need to make sure its setup fine. It took a while to get to this stage anyhow
[06:24:07] < _Digital> save, buy a part, save, buy a part, etc etc
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[06:25:37] < Damakaru> I have to sit by a group of people in one of my classes that all they do is discuss cars like you guys discuss hardware, with an exponent thrown in there somewhere.  It irks the hell out of me.  It's like the spoken-word version of a Rap song.
[06:26:56] < MrAndrsn> http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/photo;_ylt=Aj13jsfQfvjnXsSwiyAK1ck5nYcB?slug=59682002d51383d1dca4f344e9b10a7d-getty-80391796mw099_los_angeles_l&prov=getty
[06:27:03] < MrAndrsn> look at the right leg
[06:27:07] < MrAndrsn> of the guy in the air
[06:27:24] < Damakaru> Ooh.
[06:28:18] < Sir_Lewk> that guy looks like he wants to throw up
[06:28:20] < Sir_Lewk> ouch
[06:28:33] < Damakaru> [Cracking up:]  I feel so sorry for that guy.
[06:29:12] < Spengo> ever heard japanese people rapping?
[06:29:37] < Damakaru> Yes.  Ugh.
[06:29:53] < Spengo> xD
[06:31:11] < Damakaru> I wonder if there's some Japanese Industrial/EBM...
[06:32:10] < _Digital> 5% reduction in CPU speed. RAM now at 890 with the same timings. Its a lot more stable. Dropped vcore by almost .1 volts
[06:34:04] < _Digital> 5% reduced CPU for 18% increase in RAM. Is this a good trade off for x264 encoding?
[06:35:23] < _Digital> MCH is 8C hotter though...
[06:37:19] < Sir_Lewk> Japanese Industrial...
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[06:39:55] < Damakaru> Oh, crap, it got late quick.
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[06:40:01] < Spengo> O_O
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[06:40:48] < Damakaru> I started asking all these questions and reading all these opinions hours ago.  It's, like, almost two o'clock now, and I'm still at it.
[06:41:02] < Damakaru> But at least I got somewhere.
[06:41:42] < Damakaru> Or, am getting.
[06:50:48] < Spengo> ... :O
[06:50:50] < Spengo> WTF
[06:52:37] <+ports> oh no theres an emergency at the hardware store
[06:52:46] <+ports> all of the 5"x7" frames came in as 7"x5"
[06:52:52] <+ports> its going to take all night to fix them
[06:53:40] < Damakaru> Rotate ninety degrees?  :P
[06:54:17] < Damakaru> You must have got a ton of frames.
[06:54:51] < chronomex> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eS2rjcVcaqQ  good god, jetboots + base jumping
[06:55:13] < Damakaru> What will they think of next?!
[06:56:22] < Damakaru> I don't know, but I am too sleepy to find out.
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[06:57:06] < chronomex> hah
[06:57:10] < Spengo> chronomex, I saw an article about a guy with a new jetpack
[06:57:16] < Spengo> has wings, looks like buzz lightyear
[06:57:28] < Spengo> I dunno the link though :(
[06:57:55] < chronomex> I saw that too
[06:59:01] < Spengo> lol @ fuel bags
[06:59:11] < Spengo> hahaha his helmet
[06:59:19] < Spengo> it looks almost like from that old rocket man movie
[07:00:50] < Spengo> hah great, he actually managed to maintain altitude?
[07:00:54] < Spengo> that's pretty sweet
[07:01:07] < Spengo> I thought it would just make him go farther
[07:01:33] < Spengo> I bet he's really good at those squirrel suits
[07:01:40] < Sir_Lewk> apparently he can pretty much actually fly
[07:01:47] < Spengo> yeah
[07:02:33] < Spengo> I would totally learn how to do that but it's expensive as hell
[07:02:46] < Spengo> you have to have like a billion hours of parachuting before you can even try the squirrel suits
[07:04:26] < chronomex> sounds real expensive
[07:04:29] < chronomex> but lots of fun too
[07:04:33] < Spengo> yeah
[07:04:38] < Spengo> that's usually how fun things go :(
[07:04:47] < chronomex> hah
[07:05:17] < Sir_Lewk> you mean like a billion hours of masturbation before you can try sex?
[07:05:19] < Sir_Lewk> :P
[07:05:37] < Spengo> masturbation is free though
[07:05:49] < Sir_Lewk> hmm, true
[07:06:13] < Sir_Lewk> a billion hours with hookers before you can get a really expensive GF?
[07:06:29] < Spengo> the cost with girls is usually time
[07:06:55] < _Digital> I hope none of you are capable of reproducing or get teh chance
[07:06:58] <+ports> eh
[07:06:59] <+ports> no
[07:07:06] < Spengo> no?
[07:07:06] <+ports> the cost with girls is pregnancy scares
[07:07:10] < Spengo> lmao
[07:07:23] <+ports> Spengo, not funny.. i just had that scare this morning
[07:07:37] < Spengo> LOL!
[07:08:09] < chronomex> _Digital: I think I am, sorry
[07:08:11] <+ports> im not sharing the story
[07:08:16] < Spengo> was she just shitting you or really?
[07:08:40] <+ports> she called me all worried this morning because in the roughness my condom came off the other night... and she was worried because its close to that time.. but i calmed her down because i didnt cum!
[07:08:44] <+ports> no sperm = no baby!
[07:08:58] < _Digital> and you wonder why so many are looking for a guy who proves that they are all not the same.
[07:09:25] < chronomex> ports: glad you got that figured out ...
[07:09:25] < Spengo> did she do the pee test thingy?
[07:09:44] <+ports> _Digital, i dont wonder about it.... and she called me about it..
[07:09:56] <+ports> Spengo, no... its a bit early for that
[07:10:04] < Spengo> oh
[07:10:17] < chronomex> _Digital: yeah, you sort of have to wait until it's too late
[07:10:37] < _Digital> or just avoid it in the first place eh?
[07:10:50] <+ports> shes more against having kids than i am.. (i dont want to date her anymore anyway...... but i wouldnt dump her with a kid)
[07:11:45] <+ports> _Digital, avoid sex? how old are you?
[07:11:50] < _Digital> 22
[07:11:56] < Spengo> religious?
[07:12:20] < _Digital> that and its playing with fire given teh stories I hear
[07:12:24] < Spengo> a lot of religions say it's best to save it for marriage, not a terrible idea anyways
[07:12:48] < Spengo> you know, playing with fire is a terrible analogy
[07:12:51] <+ports> _Digital, scares happen it sucks... but you be safe and behave.
[07:12:54] < Spengo> I LOVE playing with fire :D
[07:13:16] < _Digital> Why take the risk in the first place
[07:13:23] < chronomex> I have a directory called ~/hobby/bits/code/playing_with_fire
[07:13:24] < Spengo> there are ways to be like 99.99% safe
[07:13:30] <+ports> _Digital, because sex is fun.
[07:13:36] < Spengo> use a condom and practice natural family planning and you're pretty much good to go
[07:13:45] < Spengo> assuming your gf has easy to track periods anyways
[07:13:51] <+ports> and just dont have sex with skanky bitches
[07:13:54] < _Digital> meh
[07:13:55] < Spengo> and that too
[07:13:56] < Spengo> lol
[07:14:04] < chronomex> "When you leave a gate open, you never know who will come to rest in the shade"
[07:14:06] < chronomex> lol
[07:14:23] < _Digital> heard that one before
[07:14:35] < chronomex> from the caption to a photo that I just had up
[07:15:21] <+ports> _Digital, have you had sex before?
[07:15:25] < _Digital> nope
[07:15:32] <+ports> fair enough.
[07:15:51] < Sir_Lewk> I'm just afraid of TEETH
[07:15:54] < Sir_Lewk> :O
[07:15:59] < Spengo> wha...?
[07:16:11] <+ports> _Digital, im running the test now
[07:16:15] < chronomex> lol noooo
[07:16:17] < _Digital> k
[07:16:28] < _Digital> 32 or 64 bit?
[07:16:34] <+ports> 32
[07:16:36] < _Digital> k
[07:16:38] < chronomex> I have 32 teeth, dunno about you
[07:16:45] < Spengo> om nom nom
[07:17:12] < _Digital> I noticed a small, but noticeable speedup with the 64 bit
[07:17:33] <+ports> i wont be switching to 64bit
[07:17:34] < Spengo> ima go to sleep
[07:18:16] < Spengo> gotta be ready just in case
[07:18:25] < chronomex> 'night Spengo
[07:18:29] < Spengo> just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you
[07:18:33] < Spengo> :O
[07:18:44] < _Digital> I'm trying to see if there is a difference worthwhile. not like there is an incompatible app, but x86 has more stable packages than amd64 in gentoo's tree
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[07:21:12] < _Digital> 78C is how hot my MCH is at. this time. The die must be at least anotehr 10C hotter
[07:21:20] < _Digital> I need to cool that thing down a lot
[07:23:45] <+ports> how long does this damn test take?
[07:23:51] < chronomex> http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/03/05/funny-pictures-om-nom-nom-nom-nom/
[07:24:06] <+ports> rendering 1 cpu  2421
[07:24:13] < _Digital> not that long. YOu should have been done by now
[07:24:15] <+ports> rendering 4 cpu  8336
[07:24:28] <+ports> opengl benchmark 4254
[07:24:40] < _Digital> stock speed of 2.4 GHz correct?
[07:24:58] <+ports> it took a 1:46m  i jsut didnt pay attention
[07:24:58] <+ports> yep
[07:26:58] < _Digital> you're runnign 50% more CPU cycles than I and got a 40% higher score
[07:28:29] <+ports> ive been watching a video in VLC player
[07:28:39] < Sir_Lewk> mplayer ftw
[07:28:58] < _Digital> size, framrate, codec, and bitrate?
[07:29:03] < Sir_Lewk> 19 more flavors of l33t
[07:29:16] <+ports> a tv rip
[07:29:24] < _Digital> SD HD?
[07:29:30] <+ports> SD
[07:30:04] < _Digital> I'll get roughly 90% to 95% more computing power by switching chips
[07:30:28] <+ports> im quite happy with mine
[07:30:47] < _Digital> our current software in computing limits u sot about 4 cores anyhow
[07:31:07] < _Digital> then once that is breached we've usually limited by GPU or disk speed
[07:31:47] < _Digital> I'm still concerned about cooling. Peltier takes up too much juice for my tasts
[07:32:24] < _Digital> I think  big reservoir and radiator I should be set
[07:32:57] < _Digital> roughly looking at 2 gallons if thats not unresonable
[07:34:26] < Sir_Lewk> you are seriously looking at liquid cooling?
[07:34:39] < chronomex> mercury cooling sounds like a good idea
[07:34:47] < Sir_Lewk> O.o
[07:34:56] < Sir_Lewk> that sounds like a horrible idea
[07:34:58] < _Digital> yes I am
[07:35:00] < chronomex> if only it weren't toxic
[07:35:06] < Sir_Lewk> try something that won't kill you if it gets out
[07:35:11] < chronomex> and conductive
[07:35:19] < Sir_Lewk> ya rly
[07:35:25] < Sir_Lewk> distilled water could work
[07:35:35] < Sir_Lewk> so long as you make sure as hell it's distilled
[07:36:02] < _Digital> water is only conductive if it has contaminents.
[07:36:08] < Sir_Lewk> yup
[07:36:26] < _Digital> If there is dust inside on my components, it doesn't matter if the water is distissed
[07:37:12] < Sir_Lewk> yeah, I would only really trust distilled water in a clean room or something
[07:37:41] < Sir_Lewk> gallium
[07:37:55] < Sir_Lewk> like mercury but not deadly :D
[07:37:58] < _Digital> that melts in your hand
[07:38:09] < Sir_Lewk> only slightly higher melting point, 85 F or something like that
[07:38:15] < chronomex> its not poisonous? awesome
[07:38:51] < Sir_Lewk> it's toxicity isn't really known in full, but it doesn't seem to do anything bad
[07:39:03] < Sir_Lewk> you still wouldn't want to eat it ;)
[07:39:05] < chronomex> "Unlike mercury, liquid gallium metal wets glass and skin, making it mechanically more difficult to handle"
[07:39:23] < Sir_Lewk> blah
[07:39:29] < Sir_Lewk> I want a pool full of it
[07:39:41] < Sir_Lewk> it would be awesome to swim in something that dense
[07:40:00] < Sir_Lewk> *walk
[07:40:03] < Sir_Lewk> :P
[07:40:05] < chronomex> hah
[07:40:08] < chronomex> pick
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[07:41:12] < Sir_Lewk> brb
[07:41:17] < _Digital> night all
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[07:41:29] < Sir_Lewk> NO U
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[07:43:44] < Sir_Lewk> ya know
[07:44:21] < Sir_Lewk> if bands started releasing their songs for flac download, I would stop illegally downloading mp3s and buy the flacs
[07:45:07] < chronomex> me too
[07:45:10] < chronomex> flac <3
[07:45:16] < Sir_Lewk> oh yeah
[07:54:08] < Sir_Lewk> for example:
[07:54:46] < Sir_Lewk> I will be paying $5 for the flacs of this: http://virheroicus.com/ instead of getting the free mp3s
[07:55:14] < Sir_Lewk> same guy that does http://www.zhaymusic.com/, <3
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[08:02:34] < Sir_Lewk> so... what are people up to?
[08:02:38] < Sir_Lewk> all sleeping?
[08:05:10] < nicolas> yes
[08:05:23] < nicolas> it's saturday morning, of course we are sleeping!
[08:05:36] < Sir_Lewk> it's part-tay time!
[08:05:53]  * Sir_Lewk is sitting alone in his dorm sipping sunkist...
[08:05:55] < chronomex> not sleeping
[08:06:08] < nicolas> sunkist?
[08:06:14] < Sir_Lewk> orange soda
[08:06:21] < Sir_Lewk> addictive, kinda like crack
[08:07:24] < nicolas> looks alright
[08:09:27] < nicolas> but i'd rather have a nice freshly squeezed orange ... especially the kind I get here :P
[08:11:44] < Sir_Lewk> oranges lack the required caffeine content ;P
[08:15:21] < Sir_Lewk> w00t, almost got the standard level generation algorithm done for spacehack :D
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[08:33:33] < Sir_Lewk> sup millinao
[08:33:38] < millinao> hey
[08:33:44] < millinao> whassup
[08:34:32] < chronomex> hey millinao
[08:36:53] < millinao> what is going on with you this fine evening
[08:39:33] < Sir_Lewk> you know what I hear all the cool kids are doing?
[08:39:49] < millinao> cocaine? unprotected sex?
[08:39:54] < Sir_Lewk> checking out spacehack and writing me level generation algorithms :P
[08:40:05] < millinao> haha
[08:40:30] < Sir_Lewk> svn co https://spacehack.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/spacehack spacehack
[08:40:32] < millinao> Maybe
[08:40:43] < millinao> i'm in a clan thing right now, kind of busy
[08:40:49] < Sir_Lewk> the code looks like hell right now ;O
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[08:41:26] < millinao> I really have no idea how a level generation algorithm would work
[08:42:21] < Sir_Lewk> yeah, I'm just kind of making it up as I go too :S
[08:42:46] < millinao> i would assume it would be random and check for holes, etc
[08:43:06] < Sir_Lewk> right now I'm drawing random rectangular rooms, creating doors on them at random positions, then using a pathfinding algorithm to draw hallways between them
[08:43:24] < millinao> not a bad idea at all
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[08:43:38] < millinao> maybe you should look at another GPL'd roguelike
[08:43:49] < millinao> and see what they did
[08:44:15] < Sir_Lewk> yeah
[08:44:39] < Sir_Lewk> but the code for some of them makes my stuff look professional and clean :O
[08:45:00] < millinao> haha
[08:45:11] < millinao> well, sometimes many people can make worse code than one person
[08:45:27] < Sir_Lewk> yeah
[08:45:29] < millinao> mostly due to one person knowing what they are thinking
[08:45:51] < Sir_Lewk> and the "smear features on as we think of them" nature of roguelikes can't help either ;)
[08:46:25] < millinao> hahaha
[08:46:43] < millinao> the TDDTOE nature of nethack comes to mind
[08:48:17] < Sir_Lewk> pretty much :)
[08:51:00] < millinao> i'll look at it in a little bit
[08:51:32] < millinao> wait, I don't want to build it :(
[08:52:25] < millinao> i'd test it out if you made a windows port
[08:53:40] < Sir_Lewk> it's nothing to impressive right now, you can just move around a static testing level, kill AI-less monsters, and oggle at my lightmap rendering
[08:54:58] < millinao> haha
[08:55:17] < millinao> well the nethack AI is not amazing
[08:55:27] < millinao> they just walk around randomly until attacked
[08:55:55] < Sir_Lewk> yeah, I'm waiting on some other guy to get it finished, he has half a pathfinding algorithm done
[08:56:41] < Sir_Lewk> basically they should just attack until their health is too low, then run. Or not, depends on the type of monster
[08:57:55] < Sir_Lewk> anyways, must sleep now
[08:58:20] < Sir_Lewk> the magical beings from the world of my dreams beckon me
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[15:21:38] <+patz2009> Hello, wonderful members of The Congregation of Practicing Atheists!
[15:21:46] <+krisk> lo
[15:21:58] <@Andy_J> *Collection *Prickish *Assholes
[15:22:05] <+patz2009> haha
[15:22:12] <@Andy_J> ^topic
[15:22:22] <@Andy_J> I like collection better though
[15:22:29] <+patz2009> yeah, thought I might change it up a bit.
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[16:52:19] < MrAndrsn> so... apparently no one from qwest has to do anything here to get my DSL installed... how does that work?  how does it know which phone line thingy I'm using and stuff?
[17:02:40] < Nikky> MrAndrsn: I'm here now.
[17:02:49] < Nikky> Netham45: George Bush is way worse than I am.
[17:04:31] < i_c-Y> MrAndrsn: they do that stuff in the switches before your house.
[17:04:43] < i_c-Y> the only thing they do at your house is plug in the modem
[17:05:28] < MrAndrsn> I'm getting the modem from UPS and they aren't coming here
[17:06:11] < MrAndrsn> they said that it would be activated at 5 pm on tuesday, but didn't mention an appointment to enter my apartment to see which phone socket thing I'm using
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[17:07:01] < MrAndrsn> although it could just be the 2 idiots that I have talked to
[17:07:08] < MrAndrsn> the first one got my name wrong (Lane)
[17:07:25] < MrAndrsn> and the second one told me that since it was wrong on everything, he couldn't fix it, but I have to call billing
[17:07:30] < MrAndrsn> which doesn't open until tuesday
[17:07:35] < MrAndrsn> monday*
[17:07:41] < MrAndrsn> M-F
[17:07:50] <+krisk> doesnt the modem contact their servers for an ip address regardless of what socket you use?
[17:08:32] < MrAndrsn> if it's anything like Cable, the modem doesn't have a clue which company it is being used with
[17:09:00] < MrAndrsn> but maybe that'll be part of the installation process
[17:09:05] < MrAndrsn> I think I get a CD or something
[17:09:17] <+krisk> yes
[17:09:28] <+krisk> either that or they preinstall all that before giving it to you
[17:10:00] <@Andy_J> ... they don't have to do anything
[17:10:20] <@Andy_J> AT&T UPSed me a modem and the line filters
[17:10:42] < MrAndrsn> I just read something about line filters... what are those?
[17:10:43] <@Andy_J> you plug them in, pop the CD in, and it walks through the account creation (or qwest might have that info for you)
[17:10:53] <@Andy_J> then you set up the PPPoE stuff and it authenticates
[17:10:56] <@Andy_J> They're... filters.
[17:11:00] <@Andy_J> That's all there is to it.
[17:11:09] <@Andy_J> You must put one on every phone jack that has something plugged in.
[17:11:16] <@Andy_J> The one for the modem is different.
[17:11:41] < MrAndrsn> ok... I don't think we have any here... I sure hope the people upstairs and downstairs are on different lines
[17:12:00] <@Andy_J> Does your phone ring when their phone rings?
[17:12:08] < MrAndrsn> we don't have any phones
[17:12:18] <@Andy_J> Then how the hell are you using DSL?
[17:12:36] < MrAndrsn> I'm paying more for just internet
[17:12:39] <@Andy_J> Phones are kind of a prerequisite.
[17:12:49] < i_c-Y> Andy_J: you just need the lines, not the phone service
[17:12:55] < i_c-Y> they'll make you pay more but it will run.
[17:13:04] < MrAndrsn> they even gave me a fake phone number
[17:13:10] <@Andy_J> AT&T requires the phone service AFAIK
[17:13:40] < MrAndrsn> qwest doesn't, but it costs a bit more for just the internet (of course, less than phone+internet)
[17:14:18] < Dauron> lol
[17:14:30] < MrAndrsn> I don't know very many college students with non-cell phone telephones
[17:14:44] <+krisk> how lulzy, my phone just connected to another network signal and now i get an echoing second tone while its trying to reach someone i'm calling and i get the "doesnt answer" message twice once in dutch and once in english
[17:15:07] <@Andy_J> krisk: uh, I doubt that's what happening...
[17:15:27] <@Andy_J> Unless you still have an analog phone somehow and even then I doubt it'd work that way
[17:15:48] <+krisk> i just said what i hear how can that not be whats happening?
[17:16:19] <@Andy_J> signal doubling from the same tower could do it, but two towers could not because your phone is not physically able to do so
[17:16:40] <@Andy_J> or at least in such a way that it's actively using both towers
[17:16:46] <+krisk> i didnt mention towers, i dont think there are multiple towers here
[17:16:49] <@Andy_J> it could have another tower on standby, yes, but it wouldn't be using it to try to place a call
[17:17:02] <@Andy_J> then what do you mean by network signal?
[17:17:31] <+krisk> it had low signal on "Orange3G" network and now it has high signal on "Orange" network with the above mentioned wackyness
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[17:46:10] <+ports> gah
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[17:53:57] < _Auron_> odd, I got k-lined for using _Auron_ on one of efnet's servers
[17:54:04] < chronomex> bit odd
[17:54:12] <@Andy_J> I can see _.*_ being klined
[17:54:26] < chronomex> tkline or permanent?
[17:55:24] < _Auron_> You are banned from this server- Temporary K-line 1440 min. - (nc:r58/3011) Drones (2008/5/17 13.54)
[17:55:35] <@Andy_J> I can see drones using _.*_
[17:55:47] < _Auron_> don't you mean _*_?
[17:55:55] <@Andy_J> I'm using a regular expression.
[17:56:25] < _Auron_> what's the period for?
[17:56:39] < chronomex> to make you ask why
[17:56:50] <+ports> .
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[18:03:13] <@efneTI92> [Spengo] so when are we going to ban infolines?
[18:05:31] <+ports> if my sister wasnt pregnant id punch her in the face
[18:06:05] < chronomex> why?
[18:06:18] <+ports> she keeps sending me email forwards.
[18:06:22] <+ports> ive told her to stop and she doesnt
[18:06:27] < i_c-Y> why is that stopping you from punching her?
[18:06:41] <+ports> i dont hit girls... especially not my pregnant sister
[18:07:03] < i_c-Y> so much for equality
[18:07:37] < i_c-Y> just put a forward to trash from her
[18:07:44] < i_c-Y> err a filter
[18:08:12] < chronomex> ports: that sucks
[18:08:23] <+ports> im tempted to
[18:08:47] <+ports> my sister lives in the next subdivision... its not like she needs to email me for anything
[18:09:50] <+ports> stupid non printer friendly pages
[18:09:55] <+ports> http://www.vw.com/tiguan/completespecs/en/us/#/show_all
[18:09:58] < Nikky> ports punches his pregnant sister?
[18:10:56] <+ports> Nikky, thats how rumors get started :P
[18:12:00] <+ports> i_c-Y, i finally got my IDE working... had to rejumper things a few times... CS on both didnt work
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[18:16:21] <@efneTI92> [Leofox] All we do in hell is play DDR!
[18:18:23] < mokomull> ⎈⎈
[18:18:33] <+ports> anyone heard of the Flobots?
[18:19:15] < MrAndrsn> I'm sure at least one person has
[18:19:15] < mokomull> damnit I can't type
[18:20:15] < MrAndrsn> possibly even the Flobots themselves have heard of them
[18:20:17] < MrAndrsn> but I can't be sure
[18:20:31] < MrAndrsn> (yes, I'm sure but I can't be sure)
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[18:48:28] < DrDnar> How do the bots decide when I get voice?
[18:48:52] < Nikky> 4444when your hostmask matches ones on record on the bots
[18:49:10] < DrDnar> I'm still trying to figure out XChat
[18:49:15] < _Auron_> this song is amazing
[18:49:22] < Nikky> try /msg efneti86 ident pass
[18:49:25] < DrDnar> How do _I_ know when I have voice?
[18:49:32] < Nikky> 44oh
[18:49:34] < Nikky> mmm
[18:49:45] < Nikky> I think it puts a dot next to your nick on the bottom left
[18:49:45] < _Auron_> there'll be a colored dot next to your nick in the nicklist
[18:49:49] < Nikky> I don't really use xchat though
[18:50:02] < DrDnar> Hm. I don't see that.
[18:50:13] < _Auron_> oh, you might need to enable that in the options
[18:50:17] < DrDnar> I never a got a pass working.
[18:50:37] < _Auron_> have you had voice before?
[18:50:40] < DrDnar> Yeah.
[18:50:43] < Nikky> yes, he has set a password too
[18:50:46] < Nikky> lrn2whois
[18:51:00] < _Auron_> Nikky: Too lazy. :)
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[18:51:09] < Nikky> Hi MrAndrsn!
[18:51:41] < MrAndrsn> Hi Dr. Nick!
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[18:52:28] < MrAndrsn> So I attempted to reapply my arctic silver the way that the instructions say to do it
[18:52:38] < MrAndrsn> I don't really see a difference in temperature, though
[18:52:44] < Nikky> inwhat?
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[18:52:54] < MrAndrsn> temperature
[18:52:59] < Nikky> for what
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[18:53:06] <+Ander> Ah ha!
[18:53:08] < MrAndrsn> the cpu
[18:53:13] < Nikky> what computer?
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[18:53:19] < MrAndrsn> desktop
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[18:53:24] < Nikky> lol
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[18:53:38] < Nikky> you should buy 32GB of ram for the server
[18:53:40] < Nikky> since we need it
[18:53:42] < MrAndrsn> for the server I just left the pads on that were on the heat sinks
[18:53:53] < MrAndrsn> but then I'd have to reinstall the OS
[18:54:00] < MrAndrsn> it's the 32bit version of fedora
[18:54:02] < Nikky> I don't see an issue here
[18:54:10] < Nikky> well, you should have thought of that before
[18:54:11] < Nikky> :)
[18:54:32] < MrAndrsn> it would probably amount to 2 or 3 weeks of downtime
[18:54:35] < MrAndrsn> since I hate linux
[18:54:38] < Nikky> haha
[18:54:59] < Nikky> it's not like we get any visitors anyway
[18:55:32] <+DrDnar> Hmm. Program in assembly language, do physics work, or play Majora's Mask?
[18:55:48] < MrAndrsn> it's saturday...
[18:55:54] < MrAndrsn> watch TV
[18:56:10] < aardvarq> GET ON IRC!!!
[18:56:21] <+DrDnar> Way ahead of you.
[18:56:34] < Nikky> watch CNN
[18:56:43] < MrAndrsn> No.
[18:56:44] <+DrDnar> I could play Majora's Mask on a TV.
[18:56:45] < MrAndrsn> watch Fox News
[18:56:59] < Nikky> don't watch fox noise
[18:57:29] < Nikky> Bill O's inside edition blowup is my ringtone now :)
[18:57:50] < Nikky> There are exactly two people on fox news who are at least somewhat intelligent
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[18:57:57] < Nikky> Brit Hume, and Chris Wallace
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[18:58:17] < Nikky> the others are either brainless blondes or douchbags
[18:58:35] < MrAndrsn> Brit Hume is the only news reporter on all of television
[18:58:46] < MrAndrsn> he never injects any bias in either direction
[18:58:57] < MrAndrsn> straight face
[18:58:59] < MrAndrsn> always
[18:59:14] < Nikky> mmm, I wouldn't say that
[18:59:31] < Nikky> even if he's unbiased, his producers certainly are biased
[18:59:54] < Nikky> oh hey, your supreme court kicks ass, MrAndrsn 
[19:00:06] < Nikky> the washington state supcourt was like "we're scared" and dropped the ball
[19:00:19] < MrAndrsn> for the gay thing?
[19:00:30] < Nikky> yep
[19:02:02] < MrAndrsn> You'd think that there wouldn't be any gay people in the world
[19:02:08] < MrAndrsn> you know, with evolution and all that stuff
[19:02:18] < Nikky> well, it's not genetic :)
[19:03:01] < MrAndrsn> don't lefties say that it is?
[19:03:31] < Nikky> mmm, no
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[19:03:50] < Nikky> It's mainly hormonal exposure while in the womb
[19:03:59] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v TheStorm] by efneTI80
[19:04:24] < Nikky> Gay men and lesbians are significantly more likely to be left-handed or ambidextrous than are non-gay men and women;[110][111][112] Simon LeVay argues that because "[h]and preference is observable before birth[113]... [t]he observation of increased non-right-handness in gay people is therefore consistent with the idea that sexual orientation is influenced by prenatal processes," perhaps heredity.[91]
[19:04:30] < Nikky> that would explain a lot
[19:05:12] < MrAndrsn> so if the mother gets horny while pregnant, the child (if a dude), is more likely to be gay?
[19:05:13] < MrAndrsn> hormones?
[19:05:27] < chronomex> um what
[19:05:28] < Nikky> no
[19:05:31] < Nikky> lol
[19:05:35] < Nikky> wtf
[19:05:36] < chronomex> I'm pretty sure that women get horny all the time
[19:05:47] < Nikky> hormones do a lot of stuff
[19:06:02] < Nikky> one particular subset is sexual
[19:06:04] < MrAndrsn> right... hormonal exposure... horny... it all goes together
[19:06:13] < Nikky> >.>
[19:06:17] < Nikky> troll
[19:06:39] < chronomex> troll indeed
[19:06:55] < MrAndrsn> " perhaps heredity.[91]
[19:06:59] < MrAndrsn> isn't that genetic?
[19:07:18] < MrAndrsn> or is it one of those deals where it skips generations so it doesn't go away
[19:07:34] < Nikky> it's a lot of things
[19:08:33] < MrAndrsn> "maybe we could go out for a beer sometimes and you could tell me...... how you do that to another dude"
[19:08:38] < MrAndrsn> sometime*
[19:08:43] < Nikky> ...
[19:08:48] < Leofox> homophobia? in MY #tcpa?
[19:08:48] < Nikky> the office is not funny
[19:08:51] < MrAndrsn> the office
[19:08:57] < Nikky> officetard
[19:09:00] < Nikky> zomg jan is preggers
[19:09:01] < Nikky> wtf
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[19:09:02] <@efneTI92> [TimMc] TimMc is solving the Rubik's Cube in 26.34 seconds!
[19:09:03] < MrAndrsn> Leofox: no one has said anything homophobic
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[19:09:36] < Leofox> i would disagree
[19:10:02] < Leofox> arguing that there's a 
[19:10:15] < Leofox> 'gay gene', isnt that something a homophobic christian would say?
[19:10:25] < MrAndrsn> no one has argued anything
[19:10:26] <+TimMc> hiyo
[19:10:31] <+TimMc> monolithic servlets suck :/
[19:10:36] < MrAndrsn> and no, that's not something that a homophobic christian would say
[19:10:42] <+TimMc> assignments specificaitons asking for said java classes suck :/
[19:10:52] < Nikky> Leofox: correct
[19:10:55] < MrAndrsn> a homophobic christian would say that there is not a gay gene
[19:11:02] < MrAndrsn> and that they choose to be gay
[19:11:18] < Nikky> correct too
[19:11:32] < Leofox> MrAndrsn: have you heard of the 'research' by christian 'scientists' about the alleged gay gene
[19:11:37] <+TimMc> there's a gay gene?
[19:11:38] < MrAndrsn> nope
[19:11:57] <+TimMc> i always thought it was just their upbringing and childhood experiences that would lead someone to being gay *shrug*
[19:12:33] < Nikky> no
[19:12:33] < Leofox> i would say "its just people that love someone that happens to be of the same gender. move along"
[19:12:44] <+TheStorm> i think this entire conversation is stupid 
[19:12:50] < Nikky> TimMc: upbringing has nothing to do with it
[19:13:13] < Leofox> oh?
[19:13:14] < Nikky> unless the family forces them to repress it
[19:13:15] <+TheStorm> I agree with leofox at least with that last statement
[19:13:18] <+TimMc> *shrug* i think it's a factor
[19:13:28] < Nikky> wihch usually leads them to just be murderers later in life
[19:13:29] < Nikky> :)
[19:13:32] < Nikky> well, think away
[19:13:32] < MrAndrsn> nobody was arguing about anything, and no one said anything homophobic.  get over it.  we were just chatting and I was partially trolling
[19:13:35] < Nikky> homohater
[19:13:36] < Leofox> I wonder if there's a gene that makes guys love asian girls
[19:14:00] < Leofox> my dad loves asian women, my uncle is going to marry a thai woman in july, i like asian girls
[19:14:21] <+TimMc> Leofox: probably a synthetic gene o.O
[19:14:45] < MrAndrsn> who you're attracted to is affected by what you are exposed to
[19:15:11] < MrAndrsn> I grew up in california with a lot of white people, I never thought darker people could be attractive... until 3 or 4 months into my time in the DR
[19:15:11] <+TimMc> yup ^^
[19:15:43] < MrAndrsn> and by "could be attractive" i mean "could be attractive to me"
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[19:16:14] <@efneTI92> [Merthsoft] Heat, time, and pressure; the things needed to make diamonds also make waffles.
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[19:16:34] < Leofox> 'darker people'
[19:16:40] < MrAndrsn> yes?
[19:16:43] < Leofox> <3 political correct terms
[19:16:47] < MrAndrsn> do you think that's racist?
[19:17:00] < Leofox> no I dont think that's racist
[19:17:13] < MrAndrsn> they aren't necessarily black
[19:17:43] < Leofox> i was once banned here for saying the other term for people of african descent
[19:17:51] < MrAndrsn> n?
[19:17:58] < chronomex> "people of skin"
[19:18:04]  * chronomex hides
[19:18:14] < Leofox> lol
[19:18:40] < Leofox> I never understood the problem americans have with that word
[19:18:43] < MrAndrsn> now this being said, dominicans LOVE white girls
[19:19:07] < MrAndrsn> it doesn't matter how fat or ugly a white girl is, she is hotter than everyone else to a lot of dominicans
[19:19:15] < chronomex> reeeeally
[19:19:36] < MrAndrsn> to some extent, yes
[19:19:39] < Leofox> where is the dominican republic again?
[19:19:48] < Leofox> carribean?
[19:19:55] < Nikky> Close enough
[19:19:56] < MrAndrsn> half caribbean half atlantic
[19:20:18] < MrAndrsn> the south west part of the island is the caribbean, the north east is atlantic
[19:20:25] < Leofox> the Netherlands has some colonies in the carribean
[19:20:30] < Sir_Zzzz> you know what I don't understand?
[19:20:42] < Leofox> they are called Netherlands Antilles
[19:20:44] < Sir_Zzzz> why "cracker" refers to white people
[19:20:59] < Leofox> Sir_Zzzz: it's because crack is white maybe
[19:21:14] < Sir_Zzzz> shouldn't it refer to black people, the group that statistically uses crack more than white people?
[19:21:19] < MrAndrsn> did crack exist when that word was coined?
[19:21:34] < Sir_Zzzz> white people should just be "meth-ers" or something
[19:21:59] < Sir_Zzzz> dunno, it just always seemed weird
[19:22:09] < MrAndrsn> perhaps it refers to the food
[19:22:11] <+TheStorm> beacuse crack used to be expensive so only white people could by it, but then they invented cocain and so they switched to that 
[19:22:15] < MrAndrsn> which is generally a lighter shade of brown
[19:22:33] < Sir_Zzzz> "
[19:22:34] < Sir_Zzzz> <TheStorm> beacuse crack used to be expensive so only white people could by it, but then they invented cocain and so they switched to that "  It's the other way around
[19:22:41] <+TheStorm> oh w/e
[19:22:42] < Sir_Zzzz> coke is expensive, crack is cheap
[19:22:43] < Nikky> yeah
[19:22:48] <+TheStorm> I know 
[19:22:50] < Leofox> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cracker_(pejorative) <-- etymology of cracker, enjoy
[19:22:56] < Sir_Zzzz> ah
[19:23:28] < MrAndrsn> crack a whip
[19:23:40] < Sir_Zzzz> ok, but it would still make more sense the other way
[19:24:43] <+TheStorm> so white people invented the word that other races use to insult them wtf?
[19:24:55] < MrAndrsn> it doesn't really offend me...
[19:25:03] < Nikky> who cares
[19:25:04] < MrAndrsn> why should it?
[19:25:05] < Sir_Zzzz> and if "cracker" becomes the derogative term for black people, then we wouldn't have to worry about saying "n*gger" and they wouldn't be able to complain (they were calling us it after all)
[19:25:16] < Leofox> cracker apparently means poor white man
[19:25:27] < Sir_Zzzz> the elimination of "offensive" words would go a long way to easing racial tension
[19:25:27] < Nikky> Since when are we prickish assholes?
[19:25:50] < MrAndrsn> or also if we just don't take offense
[19:26:05] < MrAndrsn> dominicans are never offended when you say what they are
[19:26:12] < MrAndrsn> black, n*gger, fat
[19:26:14] < MrAndrsn> ugly
[19:26:15] < Sir_Zzzz> I don't take offense to racial slurs against me
[19:26:20] <+TheStorm> you can't just eliminate part of a language 
[19:26:20] < MrAndrsn> they'll respond just as if you said their name
[19:26:49] < Sir_Zzzz> "<TheStorm> you can't just eliminate part of a language " I beg to differ.  Remember the word "balsum"?
[19:27:07] < Sir_Zzzz> it was eliminated in 1995.
[19:27:13] <+TheStorm> NO I must admit I do not
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[19:27:24] <+TheStorm> why?
[19:27:40] < Sir_Lewk> the only reason I know of it is because I found it in the library of congress
[19:27:55] < Sir_Lewk> it was wiped from out minds and literature by the government
[19:28:12] <+TheStorm> WTF that is so stupid
[19:28:20] < Sir_Lewk> it's true
[19:28:26] < MrAndrsn> Bush did it
[19:28:49] < Sir_Lewk> actually is was the neo-cons in general back in 95
[19:29:03] < MrAndrsn> you mean Clinton?
[19:29:06] < Sir_Lewk> bush didn't know what it meant anyways :P
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[19:29:17] < Nikky> no, the republican revolutoin was in 1994
[19:29:31] < Nikky> so they were firmly in controll of congress then
[19:29:52] < Sir_Lewk> yup
[19:29:53] < MrAndrsn> just like the libs are now, but Bush still gets blamed for everything
[19:30:17] < Nikky> well, he should be
[19:30:22] < Sir_Lewk> the president always gets too much credit, good or bad
[19:30:25] < Nikky> Partly
[19:30:28] < Nikky> we also need to blame the voters
[19:30:44] < Sir_Lewk> that would be interesting...
[19:30:45] < Nikky> for reelecting believing his "democrats are terrorists" bullshit
[19:31:02] < Sir_Lewk> nightly news railing on their viewers for being idiots...
[19:31:12] < Nikky> Why not?
[19:31:22] < Sir_Lewk> bad business
[19:31:29] < Nikky> Do you know who are really stupid?
[19:31:37] <+TheStorm> um it was more which canidate is stupider and who will screw up the nation less
[19:31:40] < Nikky> west virginians
[19:31:55] < Sir_Lewk> they are in it for the money as much as anyone else, nomatter how high and important they act
[19:31:59] < Sir_Lewk> yeah
[19:32:01] < Nikky> those people are seroiusly messed up
[19:32:16] <+TheStorm> I happen to kerry would havge f*ed us over more than Bush has
[19:32:22] < Sir_Lewk> "I heard Obama is a Muslim"
[19:32:36] < Nikky> they all think obama is a muslim and terrorist, believed tht the gas tax holiday was a good idea, nd 7% voted for EDWARDS
[19:32:49] < Nikky> I thought southern states were bad, but man
[19:32:51]  * Sir_Lewk facepalms
[19:32:53] < Spengo> kerry was kind of a loser
[19:33:04] < Spengo> I actually thought he would win though because everyone hated bush so much
[19:33:05] <+TheStorm> lol fail 
[19:33:07] < Sir_Lewk> well, WV is somewhat southernish
[19:33:13] < Nikky> not like alabama
[19:33:17] < Sir_Lewk> true
[19:33:19] < Spengo> lol @ obama terrorist
[19:33:24] < chronomex> dude, he is
[19:33:30] <+TheStorm> lol
[19:33:47] < chronomex> he wants to MAKE AMURICA WEAK
[19:34:06] < Sir_Lewk> proximity to large bodies of water determines the intelligence of an area with a few exceptions
[19:34:10] < Nikky> we cannot talk to people who hate us
[19:34:17] < Nikky> Sir_Lewk: Stop taking my theory, asswipe
[19:34:23] <+TheStorm> on hes just stupid he isn't a terrorist, why can't we have a pres who has and IQ above 60
[19:34:27] < chronomex> noooo
[19:34:34] < Spengo> I give 0 credit to any ad that tries to make an opposing political figure look bad
[19:34:36] < Nikky> TheStorm: What are you talking about?
[19:34:44] <+TheStorm> obama
[19:34:47] < Spengo> their policies are what matters
[19:34:49] <+TheStorm> idk anymore
[19:34:50] < Nikky> uh
[19:34:59] <+TheStorm> no*
[19:35:01] < MrAndrsn> taking up all the storage space on my server
[19:35:02] <+TheStorm> opps w/e
[19:35:03] < Nikky> I'm pretty sure all of our senators have at least average intelligence
[19:35:28] <+TheStorm> I don't care any more 
[19:35:34] < Sir_Lewk> I love the "Unlike [opposing candidate], *I* don't use negative ads" crap
[19:35:42] < chronomex> lol
[19:35:42] < Sir_Lewk> that's freaking negative!
[19:35:50] < Spengo> who says that? lmao
[19:35:50] < chronomex> mhm
[19:35:57] < Spengo> that's hilarious
[19:35:58] < Sir_Lewk> who doesn't say that?
[19:36:01] < chronomex> that's called praeterition <3
[19:36:08] < Sir_Lewk> they all are, republican and democratic
[19:36:09] <+TheStorm> I just want to stop hearing about what Obama and Hillary said about the other
[19:36:18] < Spengo> lol
[19:37:08] <+TheStorm> I don't care if they both salled the other a name I jsut want them both to shut up long enough so I can hear some real news
[19:37:17] <+TheStorm> call* just*
[19:37:25] < Sir_Lewk> I want to stop hearing the obama vs hillary crap, and mccain saying that he isn't doing what they are doing
[19:37:51] < Sir_Lewk> because it is ALL bullshit
[19:37:53] < Nikky> TheStorm probably doesn't like Chris Matthews either.
[19:38:09] < MrAndrsn> Will Smith is a scientologist too?
[19:38:17] < Sir_Lewk> lollerblades
[19:38:18] < Nikky> that's a shame
[19:38:36] <+TheStorm> Never heard of him (the Chris dude)
[19:38:49] < MrAndrsn> "Smith has admitted to studying Scientology and he has said many complimentary things about the controversial religion"
[19:38:57] <+TheStorm> lol at Smith being a scientoligist 
[19:39:15] < MrAndrsn> "he has denied having joined the Scientology Church, saying "I am a Christian"
[19:39:18] < MrAndrsn> phewww
[19:39:26] < Nikky> I'm a buddist
[19:39:34] < Nikky> I can't take that jesus crap
[19:39:41] < Nikky> buddism just makes you feel good
[19:40:23] < Sir_Lewk> so does heroin
[19:40:31]  * Sir_Lewk shoots up
[19:41:11] < i_c-Y> haha
[19:41:16] < i_c-Y> im watching the shawshank redemption
[19:41:43] < chronomex> hah
[19:41:48] <+TheStorm> lol at this site http://www.conservapedia.com/Main_Page
[19:42:00] < Nikky> I run that site
[19:42:28] <+TheStorm> a friend of mine just goes and randomly edits articles with liberal statments jsut to piss them off
[19:42:52] < chronomex> figures
[19:43:24] < Nikky> that site is silly
[19:43:31] < Nikky> we all know republicans don't know how to use the internet
[19:43:40] <+TheStorm> lol
[19:44:59] < Nikky> facebook is stupid
[19:45:06] <+TheStorm> yeah and?
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[19:45:16] < Nikky> they should have used jabber instead of this facebook chat shit
[19:45:37] <+TheStorm> definatly but their stupid like that
[19:45:48] <+TheStorm> they're*
[19:45:50] < Sir_Lewk> conservapedia is interesting
[19:45:56] < MrAndrsn> their stupid people like that
[19:45:58] <+TheStorm> lol what?
[19:46:21] < MrAndrsn> (to like, the verb)
[19:46:28] < MrAndrsn> your sentence made perfect sense
[19:46:35] <+TheStorm> w/e
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[19:46:54] < Sir_Lewk> some articles are full of blatant ignorance, others arn't that biased at all http://www.conservapedia.com/Aleksandr_Solzhenitsyn
[19:47:10] < Sir_Lewk> sure, a little biased, but not really.
[19:47:31] < Sir_Lewk> bizarre phenomenon
[19:48:19] < Calgar> lol, are people really that ignorant? its enough to make you believe in eugenics
[19:48:33] < Sir_Lewk> haha
[19:48:42] < Sir_Lewk> I'm sure they believe in that too :P
[19:53:17] <+TheStorm> lol they make him sound aniti-communist yet one of his quotes looks exactly like something a communist would say 
[19:54:13] <+TheStorm> wait wtf that whole article makes no sence 
[19:54:22] <+TheStorm> i'm done reading that site 
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[19:55:59] < MrAndrsn> I wonder how one goes about becoming a professional basketball referee
[20:03:37] < Sir_Lewk> "
[20:03:37] < Sir_Lewk> <TheStorm> lol they make him sound aniti-communist yet one of his quotes looks exactly like something a communist would say "  well he *was* tossed in a gulag and wrote "The Gulag Archipelago" (a very good read btw).  He had plenty bad to say about the soviets
[20:04:17] <+TheStorm> yeah and yet he still sounded pro communist but i don't care anymore
[20:06:03] < Nikky> MrAndrsn: First they need to show that they hate the lakers.
[20:07:19] < MrAndrsn> that wouldn't surprise me
[20:08:23] < Sir_Lewk> blah, whatever
[20:08:41] < Nikky> MrAndrsn: That's the only step, really.
[20:09:27] < MrAndrsn> so... dilbert is now animated
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[20:10:58] < MrAndrsn> the success rate of the animations is about the same as the strip
[20:11:01] < MrAndrsn> 10%ish
[20:12:06] <@Andy_J> animated dilbert is OLD
[20:12:28] < _Auron_> very
[20:12:38] <@Andy_J> Original channel	UPN
[20:12:38] <@Andy_J> Original run	January 25, 1999 – July 25, 2000
[20:12:54] < MrAndrsn> these only go back to april 11th
[20:13:35] <@Andy_J> oh, I see
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[20:28:40] < _Auron_> that's interesting
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[20:29:08] < _Auron_> in windows XP if you have a folder with, say Blah.txt, and you try to put a file called Blah.txt in the same folder as that folder, it won't let you
[20:29:18] < _Auron_> folder named Blah.txt*
[20:29:49] < _Auron_> saying a file that's 0bytes can't be replaced
[20:30:17] <+TheStorm> lol that is because xp phails with file managment
[20:30:49] < Nikky> XP kicks ass
[20:31:13] <+Merthsoft> best desktop OS in the world
[20:31:22] < Nikky> easily
[20:34:40] <@Andy_J> because a directory is just a special kind of file
[20:34:50] < chronomex> of course
[20:34:55] <@Andy_J> and you clearly can't have two files with the same name
[20:35:09] < chronomex> ^ this man knows what he's talking about
[20:35:19] <+Merthsoft> psh, i knew that
[20:35:37] <@Andy_J> though that is a rather odd error message
[20:35:42] <@Andy_J> also /me stabs make
[20:35:50] <@Andy_J> Makefile:13: *** missing separator.  Stop.
[20:36:01] <@Andy_J>     12	test : test.o prime_bits.o
[20:36:02] <@Andy_J>     13	    ${CC} -o test test.o prime_bits.o
[20:36:13] <@Andy_J> what's missing -_-
[20:36:31] < chronomex> what sort of leading whitspace is on 13 ?
[20:36:38] <@Andy_J> that's from cat -n
[20:36:43] <@Andy_J> oh
[20:36:45] <@Andy_J> OH
[20:36:54] <@Andy_J> makefiles are whitespace sensitve? =\
[20:36:55] < chronomex> this is why make sucks :)
[20:36:57] < chronomex> yes
[20:37:02] < chronomex> try a single tab?
[20:37:06] <@Andy_J> Fuck Make. Just like Python.
[20:37:19] <@Andy_J> I think Smultron has been tabbing.
[20:37:20] < chronomex> er, they care about trailing whitespace on otherwise blank lines
[20:37:22] <@Andy_J> er spaces
[20:37:29] < chronomex> I don't know about leading lwsp
[20:38:18] <@Andy_J> yeah, spaces -> tabs fixed it
[20:38:33] <@Andy_J> I should probably st it to use tabs anyway
[20:38:53] < chronomex> mhm
[20:38:55] < chronomex> sucks
[20:40:45] <+ports> hrm shit.... my outlook didnt copy over to this computer
[20:40:56] < Nikky> if you're on windows use thunderbird
[20:41:06] <+ports> Nikky, i have 2 gigs of email invested in Outlook
[20:41:13] < Nikky> so?
[20:41:20] <+ports> i like outlook.
[20:41:38] < _Auron_> can't you import to thunderbird for outlook emails?
[20:41:43] < Nikky> yes
[20:41:49] < Nikky> That's why I said "so?"
[20:41:50] < Nikky> :)
[20:42:15] < _Auron_> :P
[20:42:16] < chronomex> I have 800M of mail invested in plain text
[20:42:25] < chronomex> works with any mail program
[20:42:27] < _Auron_> I have about 10mb of mail
[20:42:30] < chronomex> ... as long as it doesn't suck
[20:42:52] < _Auron_> if I kept all the spam I've gotten in the past 5 years I'd have probably 100mb or so
[20:42:52] <@Andy_J> where the fuck is DSP_Lord ...
[20:43:03] < _Auron_> I don't understand how you guys have 800mb+ of emails
[20:43:12] <@Andy_J> mailing lists
[20:43:19] < chronomex> spam
[20:43:25] < chronomex> file transfers
[20:43:29] <@Andy_J> ... mailing lists ;)
[20:43:32] < chronomex> high-traffic lists
[20:43:43] < _Auron_> lame :P
[20:43:47] < chronomex> 114M	Mail/lists/
[20:43:59] < chronomex> 200M	Mail/spam/
[20:44:08] <@Andy_J> you keep your spam?
[20:44:13] < chronomex> yes, most of it
[20:44:41] < chronomex> other day I got one that said """ Our top-notch wrist watch copies are made in accordance with all technological norms! """
[20:44:56] <@Andy_J> Ha
[20:45:12] < _Auron_> heh
[20:45:19] < Nikky> chronomex is kewl
[20:45:40] < Nikky> everyone should troll #cemetech
[20:45:44] < chronomex> I wont
[20:45:59] < chronomex> #chronotech is better
[20:46:28] < Nikky> good point
[20:50:14] <+Merthsoft> damn
[20:50:43] <+Merthsoft> I've got this sprite sheet with playing cards on it, and they go from king down to ace, I want them to go from ace up to king -_-
[20:51:05]  * _Auron_ can fix that real quick
[20:51:30] <+Merthsoft> orly?
[20:52:12] <+Merthsoft> http://nonlogic.org/dump/images/1211057581-CardDeck2.png knock yourself out
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[20:52:49] < _Auron_> lol.
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[20:54:14] <+Merthsoft> back
[20:54:23] < chronomex> wb
[20:54:52] < _Auron_> I'm bored and have nothing else to do so why not
[20:54:58] <+Merthsoft> sweet dude
[20:55:17] <+ports> _Auron_, i work in a university environment... i get between 20 and 30 emails a day.
[20:56:32] < Nikky> that's about average for work, really
[20:57:31]  * Damakaru wonders why parents always must be so bitchy.
[20:57:58] < _Auron_> because they're unhappy people
[20:58:01] < _Auron_> and don't want to admit it
[20:58:03] <+Merthsoft> i work in your mom's environment
[20:58:14] <+Merthsoft> Damakaru: If you were my kid, i'd be bitchy too
[20:58:27] < mokomull> ouch
[20:58:31] <+ports> _Auron_, also.. attachments.. anything i receive or send... and lately we've been sending a lot of 10-15mb word documents
[20:58:42] < Damakaru> Can't blame you.
[20:58:55] < Damakaru> Goodmpoint.
[20:59:01] <+Merthsoft> Goodmpoint indeed
[20:59:06] < _Auron_> ports: ah
[20:59:16] <+ports> _Auron_, so that adds up quickly.
[20:59:38] <+ports> my gmail has 1614mb in it
[20:59:59] < mokomull> wow
[21:00:22] <+ports> i subscribe to the newegg, tigerdirect, and buy.com mailing lists to
[21:01:00] <+Merthsoft> too
[21:01:25] <+ports> yes too
[21:01:54] <+ports> _Auron_, my new desktop has 1.9TB in hdds
[21:03:09] <+Merthsoft> i need more harddrive space :(
[21:04:07] < _Auron_> Merthsoft: okay I'm basically done
[21:04:13] <+Merthsoft> wow
[21:04:15] <+Merthsoft> that was fast
[21:04:16] < _Auron_> I did a fun little trick; rotate the image by 180 degrees
[21:04:19] < _Auron_> :P
[21:04:29] <+Merthsoft> but then the numbers are wrong -_-
[21:04:32] < _Auron_> jokers had to be re-rotated
[21:04:32] < _Auron_> no
[21:04:41] < _Auron_> I said rotate, not flip
[21:04:57] <+Merthsoft> oh shit
[21:05:01] < chronomex> haha
[21:05:06] <+Merthsoft> that worked
[21:05:09] < Damakaru> {Facepalms.]  Why must my comp fail so hard?
[21:05:14] <+Merthsoft> i feel like an asshole :\
[21:05:25] < _Auron_> want my copy?
[21:05:54] <+Merthsoft> yessir
[21:06:02] < _Auron_> k
[21:06:15] <+ports> my nvidia cards do that
[21:06:19] <+ports> they can rotate the screen image
[21:06:30] <+Merthsoft> congrats
[21:06:42] <+ports> i dont know if thats useful though
[21:06:59] <+Merthsoft> it is if you change the positioning of your screen
[21:07:17] <+ports> if i had one of those cool monitor stands to mount it and it rotated
[21:07:23] < _Auron_> I do
[21:07:35] < _Auron_> http://darkauron.dyshost.com/Images/cards.bmp
[21:07:46] < _Auron_> I didn't feel like converting to GIF or PNG, so I just left it as bmp
[21:07:48] < _Auron_> did it in mspaint
[21:07:50] <+Merthsoft> bmp ftl
[21:07:59] <+Merthsoft> also, no transparency ftl
[21:08:05] < _Auron_> tragedy
[21:08:09] <+Merthsoft> i can handle that, though
[21:08:10] <+ports> i hate jpg now
[21:08:11] <+Merthsoft> thanks _Auron_ 
[21:08:13] < _Auron_> you're welcome
[21:08:31] <+ports> http://www.vw.com/tiguan/features/en/us/#/interior/twelve_way_seat  - new car
[21:08:43] < _Auron_> jpg is only good for screenshots and photos
[21:08:59] <+ports> _Auron_, i dont like how jpg alters my colors and makes my screenshots look fuzzy... they look so much better in PNG
[21:09:35] <+Merthsoft> yay _Auron_!
[21:09:35] <+Merthsoft> <3
[21:09:42] <+ports> that card image looks cool
[21:10:56] < _Auron_> actually
[21:11:00] < _Auron_> those are still wrong
[21:11:06] < _Auron_> the aces are upside down
[21:11:32] <+Merthsoft> indeed they are
[21:11:49] <+ports> http://www.weblogsinc.com/common/images/5833842295216041.JPG.4612113147076863
[21:11:54] < _Auron_> and if I flip them, the gradiant is different
[21:11:58] < _Auron_> er, rotate them*
[21:12:05] <+Merthsoft> :-\
[21:12:14]  * _Auron_ goes to fix all the cards
[21:12:25] <+Merthsoft> how'd you do the jokers?
[21:13:03] < _Auron_> I left them alone
[21:13:19] < _Auron_> I rotated the entire image by 180, then rotated the jokers and backside of the card by 180 again
[21:13:23] < _Auron_> then just repositioned everything back where it was
[21:13:41] <+Merthsoft> but the gradient is right
[21:14:25] < _Auron_> look closer, gradiant on jokers is different than the rest
[21:14:34] < _Auron_> slightly offset because of the rotation of the rest of the cards
[21:14:58] < _Auron_> since the gradient isn't symmetrical
[21:15:10] <+Merthsoft> ah, ok
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[21:15:21] <+Merthsoft> hrpf, gotta eat dinner
[21:15:36]  * _Auron_ just thought of a more clever way to fix this
[21:16:06] < _Auron_> :D
[21:16:28] < _Auron_> I'm fixing 4 cards at a time
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[21:19:58] < _Auron_> lol, I don't even know why theres a clear image option in mspaint
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[21:20:04] < _Auron_> ctrl+a and then del does the same thing
[21:20:22] < _Auron_> ctrl+shift+n is an annoying hotkey
[21:20:48] < MrAndrsn> because it's only easy with two hands?
[21:20:56] < MrAndrsn> what are you doing with your other one?
[21:21:10] < _Auron_> but I guess that's just because of my habits of using multiple keys on my left hand and a single key on my right when doing hotkeys
[21:21:16] < _Auron_> or actually in general
[21:21:25] < _Auron_> I use more fingers when typing with my left hand, despite being right-handed
[21:22:15] < _Auron_> something I don't really notice
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[21:25:07] < Netham45>  hi tifreak
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[21:25:36] < tifreak46> 'lo
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[21:27:06] < daemen> Hello?
[21:27:21] <+tifreak> hello
[21:27:22] < _Auron_> Merthsoft: view it again to see the finished copy
[21:27:31] < Netham45> what's a good movie?
[21:27:50] <+tifreak> "Next" was pretty cool... :)
[21:28:31] < Netham45> hmm, I don't think I have it. =/
[21:28:44] <+tifreak> you should get it, if you like action movies
[21:28:56] <+tifreak> daemen, were you in need of some assistance?
[21:29:10] < Netham45> yea, but I want to watch a movie now. :(
[21:29:19] <+tifreak> hmm..
[21:29:19] < daemen> I was wondering if anyone knew of a program that functions similarily to the ti-83/84?
[21:29:30] <+tifreak> What do you mean?
[21:29:45] < _Auron_> ports: jpgs only do that if you save in lower quality. higher quality is practically the exact same but takes more cpu to process
[21:29:48] <+tifreak> pc program?
[21:30:21] < _Auron_> and for some reason if I directly view a high quality jpg in a browser directly (by viewing the file and not seeing the image in an html page) my computer severely slows down and I don't know why
[21:31:16] < daemen> Something that has the same type of graphing abilities.
[21:32:06] < daemen> Yeah. PC.
[21:32:43] <+tifreak> Well... there are emulators, such as Wabbitemu, that allow nearly perfect emulation of the z80 line of calculators, you just have to have a ROM image of the calculator to use it
[21:33:18] < _Auron_> z80 line meaning 73/83/83+/83+SE/84+/84+SE
[21:33:30] < daemen> I've tried that, and can't seem to find any rom images.
[21:33:35] <+tifreak> if you do not own the calculators you are trying to get the rom image for, then that is considered illegal...
[21:33:42] <@Andy_J> You need to dump the ROM yourself.
[21:33:50] <@Andy_J> That is the official stance of this channel.
[21:34:18] <+tifreak> Rom8x on ticalc.org is an excellent utility for the 83+/84+
[21:35:52] < daemen> Exactly why I've stopped trying to find them, and why I'm now looking for a program that works like the 83/84
[21:36:14] <@Andy_J> The only such programs are emulators, really.
[21:36:25] <@Andy_J> And dumping your own ROM isn't that hard. Takes 10 minutes.
[21:36:47] <+tifreak> Well..
[21:36:56] <@Andy_J> If you just need a graphing calculator program and you have windows xp, you might try the powertoy calculator
[21:36:56] < chronomex> it's not like we try to make it hard :)
[21:36:59] <+tifreak> The SDK emulates with out the image, doesn't it?
[21:37:11] <@Andy_J> the sdk debugger is horrendous
[21:37:14] <+tifreak> but it is super slow..
[21:37:27] <+tifreak> i know, but it *does* work, doesn't it? :P
[21:37:30] < chronomex> sort of
[21:37:33] < _Auron_> for the most part
[21:37:39] < chronomex> I can't get it to install, actually
[21:37:54] < Netham45> you can also get a ROM dump from the SDK
[21:37:57] < chronomex> no
[21:38:05] < _Auron_> I used it when I attempted to work on harvest moon for the 83+
[21:38:09] <+ports> A 22 year old girl is like a carpenter.  No wood gets wasted.
[21:38:17] < _Auron_> ports: that's nice
[21:38:18] < Netham45> ports, ...
[21:38:23] <+tifreak> lol
[21:39:00] < _Auron_> I really need to throw stuff onto DVDs
[21:39:03] < _Auron_> [C: 4.35/74.55GB 5.83% free] - [F: 0/0GB 0% free] - [H: 2.38/149.04GB 1.6% free] - [Total: 6.73/223.59GB 3.01% free]
[21:39:11] <+ports> tifreak, it was funny :P
[21:39:29] <+tifreak> to an extent...
[21:39:32] <+tifreak> :P
[21:40:10] < Netham45> _Auron_, you need to free some space on your F drive.
[21:40:16] <+tifreak> kinda like the joke "Two dyslexic bank robbers walk into a bank and scream: 'Air in the hands mother sticker, this is a f*ck up!'"
[21:40:53] <+ports> lol
[21:41:08] < _Auron_> Netham45: F drive is my microSD reader that has no microSD in it
[21:41:43] <+ports> i have 10 partitions
[21:41:50] < Netham45> heh
[21:42:04] <+tifreak> i dont have enough room on my hdd for 10... XD
[21:42:05] < Netham45> right now, I have C,D,E,F,G
[21:42:11] <+tifreak> stupid 40 gb hdd...
[21:42:25] <+ports> i lied... i have 8
[21:42:25] < Netham45> 300GB, 250GB, CDROM, 160GB, 1GB in that order.
[21:42:33] < _Auron_> [C: 4.35/74.55GB 5.83% free] - [F: 0.55/1.87GB 29.59% free] - [H: 2.38/149.04GB 1.6% free] - [Total: 7.28/225.46GB 3.23% free]
[21:42:34] < _Auron_> happy? :P
[21:42:41] <+ports> 1TB, 400gb, 500gb
[21:42:41] < Netham45> no.
[21:42:45] < Netham45> not happy.
[21:43:02] <@Andy_J> /dev/disk0s2                              99Gi   77Gi   22Gi    78%    /
[21:43:04] < Netham45> _Auron_, what do you use to output the drive statistics?
[21:43:13] < _Auron_> Netham45: mIRC scripting
[21:43:17] < Netham45> what mIRC script?
[21:43:24] < _Auron_> one that I made
[21:43:33] <+tifreak> lol
[21:43:43] < _Auron_> $disc(C:).free and $disc(C:).size for example
[21:44:01] < _Auron_> with a bit of math for percentages
[21:44:03] < Netham45> ah, ok.
[21:44:26] < _Auron_> I could make a slightly better script that scans the drives and outputs accordingly
[21:44:28] < _Auron_> but I'm too lazy
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[21:46:41] < Netham45> oops
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[21:50:09] < chronomex> has anyone ever gotten TI Flash Studio to work in WINE?
[21:50:16] < _Auron_> never tried
[21:50:35] <@Andy_J> I think I've had it kind of working in darwine
[21:50:43] <@Andy_J> but the skins didn't work
[21:50:48] < chronomex> It always fails to start for me
[21:50:53] < chronomex> it can't load the class files, it says
[21:52:19] < _Auron_> >:x I should try x86 assembly
[21:52:55] < daemen> Is there a program that has the CAS abilities of the ti-89 (such as solve and expand)?
[21:54:28] < chronomex> yes
[21:54:41] < chronomex> there are many
[21:54:43] <+ports> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811992002
[21:54:50] < chronomex> that is probably not one of them
[21:55:44] < daemen> Is there one that you reccomend?
[21:56:58] < chronomex> no, I've not used any
[21:58:12] < daemen> Do you know of any by name?
[21:59:42] <@Andy_J> I'm sure mathematica could do it
[21:59:52] <@Andy_J> maybe maple?
[21:59:56] <@Andy_J> probably
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[22:03:59] < daemen> Anything freeware or open source?
[22:07:45] <+ports> wait.. what are you trying to do?
[22:09:12] < daemen> Find a program with CAS cabilities
[22:09:21] <+ports> oh.. python doesnt do symbolic
[22:11:34] <+ports> http://img90.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kdecb9.jpg
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[22:12:29] < daemen> Hmmm. Is there an emulator for the nspire?
[22:12:37] <+ports> vti?
[22:12:50] < daemen> Yeah.
[22:12:54] <+patz2009> I don't think that there's been a way to dump the ROM from the Nspire
[22:13:52] < daemen> What about the ti-84 rom from the Nspire?
[22:14:10] <+ports> daemen, i meant.. why not use VTI and a TI89 rom
[22:15:07] < daemen> Because I don't have a ti-89, or a ti-89 rom.
[22:15:23] <+ports> here
[22:15:38] < Netham45> brb
[22:15:49] <+patz2009> daemen: Yeah, there has been a TI-84+ ROM dump from the Nspire.
[22:16:27] <+Merthsoft> _Auron_: Did you fix it?
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[22:16:36] < daemen> ports - ?
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[22:17:27] <+ports> http://download.yousendit.com/A437294B52E15B15
[22:17:30] <+ports> a bunch of calc roms
[22:20:40] < daemen> Thanks, it works great
[22:20:55] <+ports> you owe me
[22:21:36]  * patz2009 watches as TI Stormtroopers come in and take ports away
[22:21:45] <+tifreak> shouldn't that have been given over pm..?
[22:21:52] <+ports> patz2009, someone gave me those a long time ago.
[22:22:06] <+patz2009> That doesn't give you a right to distribute them
[22:22:13] <+tifreak> cause something like that kinda goes against rules about posting them on the channel... unless those don't exist here...
[22:22:17] <+patz2009> especially on publicly logged channels
[22:22:31] <+ports> :>
[22:23:01] <+TD-Linux> say you live in sweden or something
[22:24:22] < Netham45>  c:\  (NTFS) | Size: 279.46 gb | Used: 194.97 gb (69%) | Free: 84.49 gb ||||||||||
[22:24:22] < Netham45>  d:\  (NTFS) | Size: 233.76 gb | Used: 37.88 gb (16%) | Free: 195.88 gb ||||||||||
[22:24:22] < Netham45>  New Volume  (NTFS) | Size: 149.05 gb | Used: 67.12 gb (45%) | Free: 81.93 gb ||||||||||
[22:24:22] < Netham45>  Complete  Size: 662.27 gb | Used: 299.98 gb (45%) | Free: 362.29 gb ||||||||||
[22:24:26] < Netham45> BAH
[22:24:28] <+ports> *waits for the moment to pass*
[22:24:31] <+ports> and it is gone!
[22:25:25] <+tifreak> woah... didn't know such colors were available on IRC... :P
[22:26:22] <+tifreak> meaning the highlights of it...
[22:26:27] < Netham45> holy damn
[22:26:30] < Netham45> I posted my network info
[22:26:31] <+tifreak> i knew the characters could be colorful..
[22:26:39] < Netham45> apparantly I have like 500 network adaptors installed
[22:26:46] < Netham45> =/
[22:26:54] <+tifreak> lol
[22:27:06] <+ports> you need more hdd space
[22:27:25] < Netham45> I have 30TB on network shares
[22:27:29] < Netham45> but this doesn't report it
[22:27:32] <+ports> why
[22:27:41] < Netham45> because it's not local
[22:28:04] <+ports> why do you have 30tb on the network
[22:28:13] < Netham45> because I do?
[22:28:26] < Netham45> because my dad somehow got 3 10TB arrays
[22:28:31] <+ports> sweet
[22:28:33] < Netham45> and set them up in our garage.
[22:28:39] <+ports> youre a lucky girl
[22:28:45] < Netham45> fscking 120 250GB disks
[22:29:41] < Leofox> why would you ever need 30 TB?
[22:29:47] < Leofox> that's awesome
[22:30:15] <+tifreak> i would love to get a 250gb hdd for this computer... other than the external I use to hide all my documents... :P
[22:30:24] < Netham45> lol
[22:30:47] < Netham45> I don't know why we have 3 10TB arrays. I didnt' set them up
[22:30:53] < Netham45> I'm only using 300GB
[22:31:09] <+tifreak> after backing up 3 computers, I still have 226GB of room left on it XD
[22:31:28] <+patz2009> I only have a single 20GB HDD :(
[22:31:51] <+tifreak> i have a 40gb in the machine, still have 23.5GB remaining
[22:32:11] < Leofox> i have a 320GB one
[22:32:15] < Leofox> but i could use more
[22:32:34] < Netham45>  Uptime  3 days 03:31:51 
[22:32:39] <+tifreak> I would probably be using more, if I had faster internets to download more stuff...
[22:32:43] < Netham45> augh these colors blind me
[22:33:26] < chronomex> !k Netham45 colors
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[22:33:49] < Netham45>  Windows Installation  1 years 6 month 17 days ago
[22:33:55] < chronomex> !k Netham45 colors
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[22:34:11] < chronomex> Netham45: no colors, you know that
[22:34:24] < MrAndrsn> and again for the colors he used higher up
[22:34:33] < Netham45>  Uptime  3 days 03:33:50 
[22:34:34] < Netham45> there
[22:34:36] < Netham45> happy now?
[22:34:45] < chronomex> not really, I don't care about your uptime
[22:34:48] < Netham45> >.>
[22:34:51] < MrAndrsn> No. normal.
[22:35:00] < MrAndrsn> not being angry is not the same as being happy
[22:35:01] <+patz2009> I thought we had a rule against scripts, too.
[22:35:11] < chronomex> patz2009: only automated ones
[22:35:20] <+tifreak> My computer doesn't usually stay on longer than 8 hours at a time..
[22:36:22] < Netham45> I've gotten 2-3 week uptimes on this
[22:37:01] < chronomex> my top uptime: 12115 day(s), 20:56:32 running Linux 2.6.23.9, ended Wed Jan 23 11:47:34 2008
[22:37:07] < chronomex> beat that
[22:38:01] <+tifreak> o.O
[22:38:09] <+tifreak> sweet peas and carrots!
[22:38:15] <+tifreak> That is a long time...
[22:38:16] < chronomex> my laptop woke up in 1980 one day, it was a bit odd
[22:38:17] < Netham45>  Physical Memory  Size: 2.00 gb | Used: 1.24 gb (62%) | Free: 780.98 mb ||||||||||
[22:38:17] < Netham45>  Page File  Size: 4.00 gb | Used: 2.64 gb (66%) | Free: 1.36 gb ||||||||||
[22:38:17] < Netham45>  Virtual Memory  Size: 2.00 gb | Used: 651.51 mb (32%) | Free: 1.87 gb ||||||||||
[22:38:28] < Netham45> haha
[22:38:48] < chronomex> !k Netham45 bold
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[22:38:56] < Netham45> fuck you. :(
[22:38:57] < chronomex> !k Netham45 autorejoin
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[22:39:05] < MrAndrsn> f word, as well
[22:39:06] <+tifreak> You don't even allow bold? :(
[22:39:15] <+tifreak> bummer-nuts
[22:39:21] < chronomex> tifreak: not when I've got !k
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[22:39:26] < Netham45> I don't have autorejoin
[22:39:28] <+tifreak> lol
[22:39:28] < chronomex> !k Netham45 fword
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[22:39:35] < Netham45> !k chronomex !k abuse
[22:39:37] < chronomex> I think I'm done now
[22:39:42] < chronomex> hey, I was just catching up
[22:39:48] < Netham45>  CPU  Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU          6300  @ 1.86GHz (1862 MHz)
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[22:39:54] < Netham45>  CPU  x86 Family 6 Model 15 Stepping 6, GenuineIntel (586)
[22:40:06] < chronomex> Netham45: stop, we don't care
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[22:40:52] <+ports> your scripts are annoying
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[22:44:29]  * Netham45 thinks it's time to reboot
[22:44:30] < Netham45> brb
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[22:45:58] < chronomex> he's annoying
[22:47:20] < mokomull> chronomex: Looks like I have 3x768 DSL here
[22:47:22] < mokomull> not bad, not bad.
[22:47:25] < chronomex> cool
[22:47:30] < mokomull> it's wired and low-latency, that's about all I wanted
[22:48:26] <+ports> Windows XP Professional, uptime 4hrs 58mins 36secs
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[22:53:40] <+tifreak> quick! Hide the goth girls!
[22:53:47] <+krisk> noes!
[22:53:49] <+tifreak> XD
[22:53:51] <+krisk> here plz :{
[22:54:00] <+ports> goth girls?
[22:54:04] <+krisk> <3
[22:54:11] <+tifreak> its krisk's thing XD
[22:54:18] <+krisk> well, the pretty ones are
[22:57:31] <+krisk> http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/109131/cb755e2a/rasta_vs_slagboom.html
[23:08:39] <+tifreak> awesomeness! I finally managed to get the oncalc sprite compressor to work 100% ^_^
[23:08:53] <+tifreak> now I don't have to type in all this data.. I can be lazy again!! ^_^
[23:08:57] <+tifreak> lol
[23:10:46] <+DSP_Lord> nice
[23:11:48] <+tifreak> yeah.. too bad it is kinda slow.. but it saves me tons of time in the long run, and the program that compresses the sprites is only 603 bytes :D
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[23:12:18] <+ports> can you run directx9 and 10 on the same computer?
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[23:15:13] < Leofox> ports: no you cant, but directx 10 is backwards compatible
[23:15:25] <+ports> hitman blood money keeps asking for a dx9 file.. it wont run
[23:15:41] < Leofox> oh, just get the specific file off the internet
[23:16:53] <+TD-Linux> ports, yes you can
[23:17:06] <+TD-Linux> directx 10 and directx 9 use separate libraries
[23:17:17] <+TD-Linux> vista only comes with 10 by default (stupid)
[23:17:26] <+TD-Linux> I think the dx9 installer will do it for you
[23:17:59] <+ports> copying the file worked
[23:18:11] <+ports> now to update hitman blood money
[23:19:15] <+krisk> lo Leofox
[23:20:17] < Leofox> it would probably be a bad idea to install dx9 and 10 both
[23:20:31] <+ports> Leofox, thats what im thinking
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[23:21:10] <@efneTI92> [KermM_] http://www.cemetech.net :: Leading The Way to the Future
[23:21:11] < Leofox> I know that some older games require some specific dx9 files
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[23:21:22] < Leofox> i've seen the problem with flatout 2 i think
[23:21:42] < Leofox> but just copying the dll is usually the best solutio
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[23:22:59] <+TD-Linux> ports, isn't that what you just did? don't see how it would be a bad thing
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[23:24:09] <+ports> well im running 9.0c
[23:24:16] <+ports> and hitman blood money is asking for a file from it... dont know..
[23:24:20] <+ports> so i just got it off the internet
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[23:30:58] < Leofox> somehow I think having thousands of dlls in system32 isnt necesarry anymore
[23:31:11] <+ports> but it sure makes windows' penis feel huge
[23:31:21] < Leofox> nowadays data, not libraries, are the spacewasters in programs
[23:31:45] < Leofox> programs should just include their own libraries to avoid dll hell
[23:31:54] < Leofox> discuss
[23:32:04] <+ports> then you get 100 copies of the same dll all over your system
[23:32:19] < Leofox> how much space would that waste? maybe 20M?
[23:32:28] <+ports> per dll..
[23:33:13] <+ports> it just doesnt make sense
[23:33:14] < Leofox> most dlls are 100K or less
[23:33:31] <+tifreak> Would it be that hard to include a checker in the installer to compare the integrity of the files?
[23:33:40] < Leofox> of course, having everything together was invented when 20M was a lot of space
[23:33:49] <+tifreak> make sure they aren't the same, and if they are, just ignore it?
[23:33:55] < Leofox> but it gets annoying when programs install a lot of dlls that only they use
[23:34:20] < Leofox> or overwrite existing dlls with versions that break compatibility
[23:34:58] <+tifreak> well, if it breaks compatibility with one, then it would work vice-versa at that point, wouldn't it?
[23:35:19] <+ports>  </discuss>
[23:35:32] < Leofox> it also doesnt make sense to have any random installer mess about in your system files
[23:35:36] < prime_> saturday!! wooooo
[23:37:31] <+tifreak> lol
[23:38:27] < prime_> computers suck
[23:39:11] <+ports>  </discuss>
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[23:54:54] < Damakaru> What would it take to design a calc/technology site better than ticalc.org ?
[23:55:33] <@E-J> lots of time
[23:55:39] < Leofox> Damakaru: half a brain
[23:55:42] <+tifreak> umm... slightly better organization (Though MV has been working on that, kudos to him) and not letting the pending que get so high... :P...
[23:56:13] < Damakaru> I'm thinking about giving it a try.
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