--- Log opened Thu May 15 00:00:00 2008
--- Day changed Thu May 15 2008
[00:00:00] <+Tailsfan> does it screw up nthe calc
[00:00:01] <+Merthsoft> while (1)/end
[00:00:10] < Ox40> Merthsoft: meh... oh.
[00:00:22] <+Merthsoft> lbl/goto are not really a good idea to use
[00:00:24] < Ox40> well, I didnt know that when I made this the first time in algebra class... sophomore year
[00:00:26] <+Tailsfan> do i include the gaps
[00:00:30] < Ox40> Tailsfan: dont have to
[00:00:33] < Ox40> doesnt hurt tho
[00:00:40] <+Tailsfan> Merthsoft: why
[00:00:48] <+Merthsoft> memory leaks and such
[00:00:50] <+Tailsfan> should i archive all my progs now
[00:00:54] <+Tailsfan> huh
[00:00:58] <+Tailsfan> should i
[00:00:59] < Damakaru> Hm, I found a PHP permeations thing.
[00:01:07] < Ox40> Tailsfan: It wont hurt anything
[00:01:09] < Ox40> Promise
[00:01:15] <+Tailsfan> k
[00:01:19] < Damakaru> http://www.php.happycodings.com/Algorithms/code21.html
[00:01:30] <+Tailsfan> Merth: will it.  IS he lying
[00:01:37] <+Merthsoft> no
[00:01:58] < Ox40> Tailsfan: I'm not mean like that...
[00:02:04] <+Merthsoft> if you're worried replace "lbl a" with "while 1" and "goto a" to end
[00:02:24] <+Tailsfan> huh
[00:02:27] <+Tailsfan> will it
[00:02:30] <+Merthsoft> Ox40: What is this thing, anyways?
[00:02:32] <+Tailsfan> i don't understand
[00:02:37] <+Merthsoft> i said no
[00:02:39] <+Merthsoft> christ
[00:03:08] < Ox40> WAIT A SECOND
[00:03:15] <+Merthsoft> k
[00:03:18] < Ox40> hold on.... 
[00:03:19] <+Tailsfan> k
[00:03:20] < Ox40> wait wait wait
[00:03:23] < Ox40> I messed up.
[00:03:24] < Ox40> sorry.
[00:03:36] <+Merthsoft> hrmpf
[00:03:41] <+Merthsoft> wish i knew where i put my calc
[00:04:01] < Ox40> hehe
[00:04:23]  * Tailsfan slaps face
[00:04:39] <+Tailsfan> well it ewon't mess with archived files, will it
[00:04:58] <+Merthsoft> it won't mess up anything
[00:04:59] <+Merthsoft> found my calc
[00:05:02] <+Tailsfan> k
[00:05:05] <+Tailsfan> u checked
[00:05:17] <+Merthsoft> i know
[00:05:18] < Ox40> There...
[00:05:21] < Ox40> http://rafb.net/p/A8Kj8n15.html
[00:05:27] < Ox40> It will not hurt anything
[00:05:45] <+Merthsoft> dude
[00:05:47] < Ox40> I made some mods... it's even cooler now. :D
[00:05:47] <+Merthsoft> just while 1 is fine
[00:05:51] <+Tailsfan> what are the l and s
[00:05:58] < Ox40> L = length of string
[00:06:00] < Ox40> S = speed
[00:06:08] < Ox40> S = 1 to 100,
[00:06:23] <+Tailsfan> do i need it...
[00:06:35] < Ox40> not really, but you will need it for the bottom part...
[00:06:37] < Ox40> below clearhome
[00:07:00] < Damakaru> I'd put that thing on my comp, but Windows sucks for running servers.
[00:07:02] <+Tailsfan> dinnet
[00:07:08] <+Tailsfan> i know
[00:07:12] <+Tailsfan> linux pwns
[00:07:27] < Ox40> yep
[00:07:44] < Nikky> lol linux
[00:07:49] < Nikky> nerds
[00:07:52] <+Merthsoft> lol
[00:08:30] <+Merthsoft> yay domain error
[00:09:12] < Damakaru> I'm tired of FF using up hundreds of MBs of RAM on Windows when it is very modest using only 10 to 40-50 on Linux.
[00:09:21] < Nikky> Ues opera
[00:09:29] < Ox40> Merthsoft: change the 16 / 8...
[00:09:45] < Ox40> in the if X = 16 part...
[00:09:45] <+Merthsoft> nope
[00:09:51] < Ox40> how many chars wide is the screen?
[00:09:58] <+Merthsoft> that didn't work
[00:09:58] < Damakaru> 16.
[00:10:01] <+Merthsoft> 16
[00:10:01] < Damakaru> By eight.
[00:10:08] < Ox40> change it to 15 X 7
[00:10:30] <+Merthsoft> stil ldidn't work
[00:10:42] < Damakaru> Nikky:  Flash sucks bad enough in Firefox.  :P
[00:10:49] < Damakaru> It's just horrible in Opera.
[00:10:52] < Nikky> Lies
[00:10:54] < Nikky> You lie
[00:11:00] < Ox40> Merthsoft... hmmmm.
[00:11:04] <+Merthsoft> if i change X-L to X then the little O moves
[00:11:06] <+Merthsoft> weirdly
[00:11:09] <+Merthsoft> i don't get this program
[00:11:18] < Ox40> weirdly?
[00:11:20] <+Merthsoft> like
[00:11:22] < Damakaru> Actually, it sucks globally, 'cause I can't find a plug-in that will let me do reg-ex to pages.
[00:11:24] < V200> so luckily my apartment complex disconnected the internet
[00:11:31] <+Merthsoft> upper left corner, then down diagaonnly to the right
[00:11:41] <+Merthsoft> and back again
[00:11:49] < V200> and all that's left is their crappy wireless
[00:11:53] < Damakaru> The only way to do it is Greasemonkey, which requires JS be enabled in FF and Opera.
[00:12:07] < Ox40> Merthsoft: then it is the wrong size...
[00:12:07] < V200> It's lucky because I just ordered 7mbps qwest internet
[00:12:16] < Ox40> if it ix 8X8 it will do that
[00:12:17] < V200> which I should get by tuesday
[00:12:21] <+Merthsoft> that's this supposed to be doing?
[00:12:30] < Damakaru> Or on Linux, I can just edit the Flash plug-in in a hex editor.
[00:12:32] < Ox40> almost exactly what it is doing.
[00:12:40] < Ox40> :D *big grin*
[00:13:38] < Damakaru> Adobe needs to make the quality settings global.
[00:13:43] < Damakaru> * where you can make the
[00:13:44] <+Merthsoft> should "if x = 1" be "if r = 1" etc.
[00:13:47] <+Merthsoft> then it bounes
[00:14:34] <+Merthsoft> ok, there we go
[00:14:39] <+Merthsoft> and it should be 18 and 8
[00:14:42] <+Merthsoft> 16*
[00:14:44] < Ox40> Merthsoft: no...
[00:14:48] <+Merthsoft> indexes start at 1 in calc world
[00:14:50] < Ox40> not the r=1
[00:14:52] < Damakaru> Other than that, and the fact that enabling/disabling JavaScript for certain domains in the current site is not a two-click procedure in Opera as it is in Firefox+NoScript, then Opera is fine.
[00:14:59] < Ox40> waaiit...
[00:15:01] <+Merthsoft> you have "if X = 1"
[00:15:10] <+Merthsoft> if should be "if R = 1"
[00:15:10] < Ox40> on the 4th / 5th if statements?
[00:15:13] <+Merthsoft> same with the Y
[00:15:16] <+Merthsoft> yes
[00:15:17] < Ox40> GARHGHHHHGHGHG! whooopsie.
[00:15:18] < Ox40> sorry.
[00:15:27] < Ox40> *nod* you got it hto.
[00:15:40] <+Merthsoft> and don't draw do Output(y, x-l... just x
[00:15:47] <+Merthsoft> and the O bounces
[00:16:23] < Ox40> Merthsoft: well... ah... 
[00:16:26] < Ox40> X-L+1?
[00:16:37] <+Merthsoft> just X works just fine
[00:16:42]  * Damakaru looks at the code.
[00:16:44] < Ox40> teah...
[00:16:55] < Damakaru> lol BASIC pong?
[00:16:55] < Ox40> ok, lemme fix it
[00:17:02] < Ox40> Damakaru: without the paddles, yeah
[00:17:14] < Ox40> It makes people mad to, because they cant get out of it unless they hit ON
[00:17:35] < Damakaru> Don't even have to read the rest of the code, I can just look at the first couple of lines and guess, "Yep, BASIC pong."
[00:17:42] <+Merthsoft> change while 1 to repeat getKey
[00:17:58] < Ox40> repeat getKey?
[00:18:02] < Ox40> repeat getKey = 45 ?
[00:18:17] <+Merthsoft> well, that'll do it till you hit clear
[00:18:24] < Ox40> cool
[00:18:31] < Ox40> ok... does the speed control work?
[00:18:39] <+Merthsoft> as in the T
[00:18:45] < Ox40> S
[00:19:32] < Ox40> on the first couple lines...
[00:19:36] <+Merthsoft> wait
[00:19:39] < Ox40> change 50->S
[00:19:40] <+Merthsoft> S is constant
[00:19:45] < Ox40> yep
[00:19:52] < Ox40> s sets the speed. 1 to 100, 100 == fast
[00:19:52] <+Merthsoft> why not just hard code it?
[00:20:04] < Ox40> Because it is easier to edit at the top of the prgm
[00:20:05] < Ox40> ;)
[00:20:13] <+Merthsoft> but it takes an extra varaible
[00:20:19] < Ox40> meh... yea.
[00:20:29] <+Merthsoft> not much on optimization, are we?
[00:20:35] < Ox40> well
[00:20:42] < Ox40> also, it is easier to say "S means Speed"
[00:20:54] < Ox40> than 
[00:21:08] < Ox40> replace the number in the line "while __ < T" to whatever speed you want
[00:21:38] <+Merthsoft> i'm aware
[00:21:51] < Ox40> But yes, I get your point
[00:21:54] <+Merthsoft> better to have T in the top
[00:22:00] <+Merthsoft> and adjust that
[00:22:01] < Ox40> why ?
[00:22:06] < Ox40> T is just a random var.
[00:22:13] < Damakaru> http://rafb.net/p/gbixFU86.html
[00:22:18] <+Merthsoft> wait
[00:22:18] <+Merthsoft> no
[00:22:20] <+Merthsoft> this way is fine
[00:22:23] < Ox40> It makes it so that 1 is slow and 100 is fast.
[00:22:26] < Damakaru> That's just off the top of my head.
[00:22:30] < Ox40> if you edi tT, 100 is slow, 1 is fast
[00:22:52] < Ox40> Damakaru?
[00:23:34] < Ox40> What does it do?
[00:23:55] <+Merthsoft> same thing
[00:24:04] < Ox40> Are you serious?
[00:24:09]  * Ox40 == epic phail
[00:24:25] < Ox40> Can't you rename the vars something recognizable?
[00:24:29] < Ox40> what does Ans do?
[00:24:36] < Damakaru> Last computation
[00:24:39] <+Merthsoft> Ox40: ans is the last value
[00:24:43] < Ox40> ah
[00:24:54] <+Merthsoft> coulda just made is A
[00:25:02] <+Merthsoft> not really saving anythhing there
[00:25:08] < Ox40> And... Output(C,A,"O you mean, right?
[00:25:11] < Damakaru> Only thing I forgot is to ClrHome before Output().
[00:25:13] <+Merthsoft> C in the second one
[00:25:31] <+Tailsfan> endifs are errors
[00:25:34] < Ox40> God I suck...
[00:25:46] < Ox40> Tailsfan: Nevermind my horrible coding skillz
[00:25:47] <+Merthsoft> he's displaying a 0 so he doesn't need quotes
[00:25:53] < Ox40> aah
[00:25:53] <+Tailsfan> and how will this solve my spefic problem
[00:25:55] < Ox40> epic!
[00:26:03] <+Merthsoft> Tailsfan: He didn't give you realy code
[00:26:03] < Ox40> Tailsfan: it wont... but it kept you busy!
[00:26:08] <+Tailsfan> ur bettar than me
[00:26:15] <+Merthsoft> Ox40: I was just scratching the surface of your code, dude
[00:26:33] < Ox40> Merthsoft: well, randomist pwned me
[00:26:37] <+Merthsoft> yup
[00:26:39] < Ox40> ya
[00:26:40] < Ox40> :(
[00:26:45] < Ox40> I like his tho...
[00:26:46] <+Tailsfan> damn you
[00:26:48] < Ox40> :D
[00:26:52] < Ox40> 13 lines..
[00:26:58] <+Tailsfan> stupid prank
[00:27:04] < V200> I wonder how emacs does with a good pipe but not necessarily a good ping time
[00:27:06] < Ox40> It wasnt a prank!
[00:27:08] <+Tailsfan> please, gimme real results
[00:27:08] <+Merthsoft> Ox40: Some people just aren't meant to be programmers :P
[00:27:16]  * Tailsfan slaps face
[00:27:19] < Ox40> Merthsoft: HEY! I am a programmer!
[00:27:20] <+Tailsfan> please help me
[00:27:24] <+Merthsoft> yeah, ok
[00:29:13] < Ox40> I am!
[00:29:27] <+Merthsoft> whatever you say, dude
[00:29:30] < Ox40> lol
[00:29:38] < Ox40> Im just not an optimized programmer
[00:29:42] < Ox40> I did make the same thing, ya know
[00:30:17] <+Merthsoft> there's a difference between some who /can/ make a program, and a real programmer :D
[00:30:33] < Ox40> -.-
[00:30:36] < Ox40> not really...
[00:30:44] <+Merthsoft> yeah really
[00:30:47] < Ox40> there is a difference between a GOOD programmer and a bad one
[00:30:56] < Ox40> but anyone who can make a program is obviously a programmer
[00:31:17] <+Merthsoft> you're arguing semantics here
[00:31:21] <+Merthsoft> you know my point
[00:31:30] < Ox40> Ya, I do
[00:31:33] < Damakaru> TI-BASIC's the only one I know how to write optimized, though.
[00:31:36] <+Tailsfan> and it domain errors on the output line
[00:31:46] < Ox40> Tailsfan: we fixed that...
[00:31:50] < Ox40> ^^
[00:31:55] <+Merthsoft> Tailsfan: that's cause his code is fucked up
[00:32:08] <+Tailsfan> stop cussin
[00:32:13] <+Merthsoft> or else what?
[00:32:23] < Ox40> Hehehe
[00:32:53] <+Merthsoft> that's what I thought.
[00:33:04] < Nikky> Hi Merthsoft :)
[00:33:08] <+Merthsoft> hi Nikky!
[00:33:15] < Nikky> how are you?
[00:33:29] <+Merthsoft> I'm good, how are you?
[00:33:31] < Damakaru> Nikky has cronies?
[00:33:52] <@Andy__J> of course he does
[00:34:03] <@Andy__J> You mean you aren't one of them?
[00:34:09] <+Speler> Most died in the Great Battle Of Markandia
[00:34:12] <+Speler> But there's still some left
[00:34:21] < Nikky> Merthsoft: I'm great.
[00:34:22] <+Merthsoft> Damakaru: Who you callin' a cronie?
[00:34:27] < Nikky> Listening to some Lewis Black <3
[00:34:29] <+Merthsoft> We're friends.
[00:34:47] <+Merthsoft> Nikky: I'mma watch 28 days latter soon
[00:34:55] < Nikky> nice!
[00:35:30] < Damakaru> I did not say any names.  :)
[00:35:43] <+Merthsoft> I just asked who.
[00:35:55] <+Merthsoft> And then explained our relationship.
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[00:38:20] <+Merthsoft> visual studios doesn't suck
[00:38:56] <@Andy__J> what is this "visual studios" you speak of?
[00:39:03] <@Andy__J> I know of a "Visual Studio".
[00:39:15] <+Tailsfan> gr....
[00:39:15] <@Andy__J> And it is a decent IDE.
[00:39:21] <+Merthsoft> don't be a dick
[00:39:25] <+Merthsoft> :(
[00:39:26] <+Tailsfan> giumme a way thnat WORKS
[00:39:44]  * Damakaru shivers.
[00:39:47]  * Merthsoft crys.
[00:40:08] <+Merthsoft> I should call Brandon tomorrow, see how he's doing.
[00:40:29] < Damakaru> Someone call the exorcist!!
[00:40:29] < Damakaru> Not that exorcist, the other one!  :P
[00:40:52] <+Merthsoft> Andy__J: Why so many underscores?
[00:41:02] <@Andy__J> Cricket is still trying to PM me.
[00:41:08] <@Andy__J> And I'm getting tired of the CALLERID notices.
[00:41:32] <+Merthsoft> wow
[00:41:51] <@Andy__J> You'd think he'd take the hint when it tells him that his message did not go through.
[00:42:05] <+Merthsoft> one would think
[00:43:31] <+Merthsoft> kid's kind of a loser, though
[00:43:41] <@Andy__J> Quite.
[00:43:50] <@Andy__J> There's a reason he's banned for three weeks \m/
[00:43:53] <+Merthsoft> even more than me!
[00:44:39] < Damakaru> Yay, someone who finally makes me feel better about myself.
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[00:45:41] <+ports> ooh
[00:45:43] <+ports> i need help with my video card
[00:45:58] <+ports> it came with a 2pin cable.... and theres a 2pin port on the card... what is that
[00:46:37] <+Tailsfan> if anyone wants to help me, go to #mat
[00:46:48] <+ports> is that SPDIF/
[00:47:00] < Nikky> ports: turn your computer on
[00:47:05] < Nikky> if everything works
[00:47:11] < Nikky> you don't need it plugged in :)
[00:50:51] < Ox40> What the heck?!
[00:50:54] < Ox40> 0.0
[00:51:02] < Ox40> *** You have been kicked from #mat by Tailsfan [Ox40]
[00:51:02] < Ox40> *** Cannot join #mat (+b - you are banned)
[00:51:10] < Nikky> ?
[00:51:12] <+Merthsoft> lolol
[00:51:17] < Nikky> Not my problem.
[00:51:20] < Ox40> THATS a new low
[00:51:35] < Ox40> Well... if he really is 9, it doesnt mean much
[00:56:15] < Damakaru> Haha.
[00:56:37] <+Merthsoft> Ox40: he's still here
[00:56:38] < Damakaru> Has he ben *lined yet?
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[00:56:41] < efneTI92> [Spengo\__] so when are we going to ban infolines?
[00:57:29] < Ox40> Damakaru: why would he be?
[00:57:51] < Damakaru> I'm just surprised he hasn't yet.
[00:57:57] < Ox40> hehe
[00:59:31] <+Merthsoft> fuuuuuck
[00:59:38] <+Merthsoft> 28 weeks later finished before 28 days later
[01:00:04] < Leofox> wut
[01:00:14] <+Merthsoft> finished downloading
[01:00:27] < Ox40> ah
[01:00:30] < Ox40> ooh, from where>
[01:00:33] < Ox40> pm mmemeee
[01:00:38] <+Merthsoft> isohunt
[01:00:56] < Ox40> they sound good
[01:01:20] < Ox40> which comes first?
[01:01:37] <+Merthsoft> 28 days
[01:01:54] <+Merthsoft> brb
[01:01:55] <+Tailsfan> i'm 13
[01:01:59] <+Tailsfan> nopt 9
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[01:03:05] < Damakaru> Hm, I need some more stuff to seed.
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[01:03:27] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Merthsoft] by efneTI86
[01:03:54] <+Merthsoft> i wish windows were better with it's transition from wireless to wired
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[01:04:47] < efneTI92> [Sir_Lewk] Give me a biscuit, I will do science to it
[01:06:15] <+Merthsoft> grr, this should be faster -_-
[01:09:32] < Damakaru> Furry?
[01:09:49] < Leofox> whut?
[01:09:54] < Leofox> no i'm not
[01:10:11] < Ox40> Merthsoft: what should be?
[01:10:33] < Damakaru> Well, he said 'Grr,' and last time I did that, I got !qadd-ed.   :P
[01:10:53] <+Merthsoft> going from wireless wo wired
[01:10:56] <+Merthsoft> and it did speed up
[01:11:04] <+Merthsoft> 2m till my movie is done
[01:11:16] < Leofox> yiff yiff
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[01:11:51] <+Merthsoft> woot woot
[01:11:53] <+Merthsoft> movie time
[01:11:55] <+Merthsoft> see ya
[01:12:14] < Damakaru> Hahaha...
[01:13:06]  * ports smacks his head on the table
[01:13:21] <+ports> somethings wrong with my brand new computer
[01:13:32] <+Merthsoft> PEBKAC
[01:13:45] <+ports> so i hit the power switch... and it turns on for 3 seconds (no monitor) .. then shuts itself off... 7-8 seconds, then it turns itself back on.... does a bios post, shows the detected ram/hdd.. (30 seconds) and shuts off again
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[01:14:19] <+Tailsfan> k....
[01:14:20] < efneTI92> [Merth] Heat, time, and pressure; the things needed to make diamonds also make waffles.
[01:14:29] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Merth] by efneTI83
[01:14:56] <+ports> i do see an error.. but it moves past it fine "CMOS checksum error - defaults loaded"
[01:15:10] <+ports> it detects my memory and processor fine.
[01:16:11] < V200> computers are useless without internet
[01:16:20] < Nikky> yeah
[01:16:21] < V200> I'm considering turning my dekstop computer off
[01:16:26] < V200> during the day
[01:16:34] < Nikky> I turn my desktop off at night
[01:16:39] < V200> well yeah
[01:16:46] < V200> but i always have mine on during the day
[01:16:52] < V200> so now I won't have it on at all
[01:17:24] < V200> my apartment complex is so unprofessional
[01:17:45] < V200> this is the second time they have just told the dsl company to turn the connections off
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[01:17:47] < V200> without warning anyone
[01:18:04] < Damakaru> Mine uses up about as much electricity when it is turned on as it does when it is turned off, so I just leave it on a lot.  :P
[01:18:13] < V200> ...
[01:18:28] < V200> a pocket calculator?
[01:18:37] < V200> with a solar thing?
[01:18:41] < Damakaru> A (crappy) VIA.
[01:19:01] < Damakaru> Would have been nice in a laptop, but not in a tower (unless this was a dedicated server).
[01:19:06] <+Tailsfan> how much $
[01:19:18] < Damakaru> Two hundred.
[01:19:31] < V200> how many watts?
[01:19:35] < Damakaru> Twenty.
[01:19:50] < V200> that's a lot more than 0
[01:20:07] < V200> or 0.1 or whatever your LEDs use if there are any
[01:20:21]  * Damakaru adds disclaimer:  "This statement was a figure of speech, and was not meant to be taken literally."
[01:20:57] < V200> each core on my server uses 20 watts
[01:21:20] < V200> 80 watts per processor
[01:21:30] < V200> 160 between the two (at full load, of course)
[01:21:59] < V200> but I do leave it on all the time
[01:22:08] < V200> because I like destroying the planet
[01:22:21] < Ox40> My computer has been on for like... 31 days
[01:22:33] < Nikky> that's stupid
[01:22:40] < V200> the qwest internet packages are retarded
[01:22:50] < Damakaru> Oh, wait, I'm wrong.  20 watts is its max power.
[01:23:02] < V200> you can get "Fast" (256kbps) (which is so slow that I would have to kill myself)
[01:23:02] < Nikky> your server kicks ass V200 
[01:23:18] < V200> "Faster" which is 1.5mbps... which is still pretty slow compared to "Fastest"
[01:23:26] < V200> which is up to 7mbps
[01:23:26] < Damakaru> Idle power is two watts.
[01:23:36] < V200> unless you unplug it
[01:23:53] < V200> oh.... on and idle
[01:24:05] < V200> thank you, Nikky 
[01:24:10] < Nikky> np
[01:24:29] < Ox40> hehehe
[01:24:33] < Ox40> you have no files...
[01:24:40] < Nikky> ?
[01:24:47] < Ox40> http://209.90.98.110
[01:24:58] < Nikky> uh
[01:25:10] < Ox40> I know you meant ir-clogs
[01:25:13] < V200>  /~calcg
[01:25:31] < Nikky> /~Nikky
[01:25:37] < V200>  /~impoll
[01:25:48] < Nikky> /~calcgames
[01:25:56] < Nikky> oh
[01:25:57] < Nikky> :(
[01:27:39] < V200>  /~triumph
[01:27:49] < V200>  /~synergy
[01:27:52] < V200>  /~anderson
[01:28:00] < V200>  /~ajanata
[01:28:00] <@Andy__J> <_<
[01:28:03] <@Andy__J> /~huge_success ?
[01:28:06] < Nikky> /~Nikky/phpsysinfo
[01:28:26] < V200> nope
[01:29:29] < Ox40> Wow. Epic Phail. "*** Unknown command: ~OX40"
[01:29:41] < Damakaru> Well... I might have a crappy PC, but I can be happy that it will only kill four trees in its lifetime compared to the 26 or more the common ones today will.
[01:30:00] < Damakaru> More wood for me.  :)  :P
[01:30:05] < Nikky> Ox40: ?
[01:30:28] < Ox40> Nikky: I typed /~Ox40
[01:30:37] < Ox40> -.-
[01:30:41] < Nikky> oh
[01:30:47] < Ox40> VIRC
[01:30:52] < Ox40> CTRL + Enter
[01:30:53] < Ox40> I know
[01:30:56] < Nikky> uh, no shit
[01:31:49] <@Andy__J> / /something :)
[01:32:31] < Nikky> space / is faster
[01:32:33] < Nikky> than / space
[01:32:35] < Nikky> :)
[01:32:40] < V200> some clients ignore leading spaces
[01:32:46] < Nikky> not this one
[01:32:47] < Nikky> which CHAMPS
[01:32:55] < Nikky> Andy__J: your cliet fails
[01:33:06] < Damakaru> O shi--three minute lag.
[01:33:13] <@Andy__J>  /bleh
[01:33:23] <@Andy__J> Nikky: except that puts a space in there :p
[01:33:29] <@Andy__J> / /bleh doesn't :p
[01:33:38] < Damakaru> //bleh
[01:33:44] -!- mode/#tcpa [+o efneTI92] by efneTI83, Remius
[01:33:44] < Damakaru> Damn.
[01:34:06] < Damakaru> My client is the sucks, but an IRC client is an IRC client is an IRC client.
[01:34:16] <@Andy__J> Not really.
[01:34:22] <@Andy__J> Telnet sucks as an irc client.
[01:34:28] < Ox40> yes, it does
[01:34:36] < Damakaru> As long as it is not Trillian.
[01:34:36] < Ox40> Netham thought he was all cool for using telnet ;)
[01:34:41] < Ox40> I like Trillian!
[01:34:46] < Ox40> I used to use it...
[01:34:48] <@Andy__J> trillian's IRC does suck
[01:34:58] < Ox40> I never used it's IRC feature
[01:35:14] < Ox40> But for MSN/Yahoo/AOL or whatever, it is teh rocks
[01:35:30] < Nikky> pidgin kicks the shit out of trillian
[01:35:36] < Nikky> <3 pidgin encryption
[01:35:56] < Damakaru> My client is missing some IRC features, but it's alright.'
[01:35:56] < Damakaru> All I need to do is read the text.  :P
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[01:36:54] < Damakaru> I never thought I'd hear Nikky say something good about Pidgin.
[01:37:03] < Damakaru> Is it a trap?
[01:37:24] < Nikky> no
[01:37:26] < Nikky> ?
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[01:38:42]  * Damakaru approaches cautiously.
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[01:39:00] < Damakaru> It is!  It got Sir_Lewk!  Run away!
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[01:41:54] < Netham45> \o/
[01:42:11] < Netham45> I got Windows 3.1 on my PSP
[01:42:16] < aardvarq> The one feature of trillian that I _REALLY_ wish pidgin had is remembering old window positions.
[01:42:16] < Nikky> >.>
[01:42:28] < Nikky> Hi aardvarq!
[01:42:30] < Damakaru>  /o\
[01:42:30] < Nikky> nobody likes you
[01:43:04] < Damakaru> Nikky, that is not nice.
[01:43:19]  * _Auron_ needs to learn this stuff: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPaMdxC6CQI
[01:43:20] < Netham45> Nikky, why such a sourpuss? :(
[01:44:00] < Nikky> well, the truth is that I wish aardvarq would father my childrens
[01:44:13] < aardvarq> Netham45: why is the sky blue?
[01:44:15] < Damakaru> I wonder if Nikky would be nicer if he did pot...
[01:44:48] < Damakaru> Or whatever the complete opposite of Nikky would be.
[01:44:57] < Nikky> It'd be like me now
[01:45:11] < Nikky> How is aardvarq today?
[01:45:16] <@Andy__J> oh hey it's aardvarq 
[01:45:22] < Nikky> Andy__J sucks
[01:45:26] < Ox40> <(|)>
[01:45:31] < Ox40> Its a guy with a mohawk doing pushups
[01:45:35] < Nikky> \wow
[01:45:36] < Ox40> ;)
[01:45:36] < aardvarq> Nikky: That's true, but you can't afford him.
[01:45:43] <@Andy__J> ...
[01:45:49] < Nikky> yeah, Andy__J is a premium hooker
[01:45:58] <@Andy__J> ._.
[01:46:02] < Damakaru> Hahah...
[01:46:10] < Damakaru> a...
[01:46:25] < Netham45> I'm sorry for you, Andy__J.
[01:46:53] < aardvarq> !qadd <Nikky> Andy__J sucks | <aardvarq> Nikky: That's true, but you can't afford him. | <Andy__J> ... | <Nikky> yeah, Andy__J is a premium hooker | <Andy__J> ._. | <Netham45> I'm sorry for you, Andy__J.
[01:46:54] <@efneTI86> Quote 1272 added
[01:47:05] < Damakaru> Andy__J must specialize in professional torture.
[01:47:18] -!- Andy__J changed the topic of #tcpa to: Welcome to #TCPA | http://tcpa.calcg.org/ | Damakaru == Randomist | BrandonW releases UnivOS http://calcg.org/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?t=8417
[01:47:24] <@Andy__J> there was a stray apostrophe
[01:47:48] < Damakaru> See, he even kills apostrophes.
[01:47:48] < aardvarq> indeed
[01:48:05] < Damakaru> He'd be every masochist's dream.
[01:49:20] < Damakaru> But he's nothing compared to Nikky.  :P
[01:49:37] <@Andy__J> Screw you guys, I'm going back to Eclipse.
[01:50:21] < _Auron_> gross
[01:53:45]  * Damakaru spins around Taz style and drills himself into the ground.
[01:53:45]  * Damakaru climbs out and nods proudly at the six-foot-deep hole he has made.
[01:53:46] < Damakaru> Wait a minute, I'm five' three" -- that couldn't happen.
[01:59:06] <@Andy__J> ... yes it could
[01:59:19] <@Andy__J> nevermind the fact we're dealing with cartoon physics
[02:00:37] < Damakaru> I remember reading a _ridiculously serious_ discussion about cartoon physics on a forum a few years ago...
[02:00:58] < Damakaru> I think the topic ended up getting locked.
[02:02:12] < _Auron_> xkcd has a board for serious business
[02:02:27] < _Auron_> which reminds me *checks latest comic*
[02:03:04] < _Auron_> nice :D
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[02:04:51] < tifreak> Hmm... I guess this means the kline was lifted off of my ip.. I hope..
[02:05:42] < _Auron_> some servers blacklist ips and don't remove them, so if yours is dynamic you might end up on a blacklisted one
[02:06:27] < tifreak> well.. It gave me a link and I clicked it, and it had a page where I could request for my ip to be placed on a safe list... did not think it would happen that fast though
[02:06:35]  * aardvarq k-lines tifreak
[02:06:57] < tifreak> that would not be very nice.. :P
[02:07:08] < tifreak> there is nothing going on on the UTI server.. so boring.. :(
[02:07:48] < Damakaru> That is not news.
[02:08:04]  * Damakaru kicks sand over the middle part of the topic.
[02:08:19] < tifreak> yeah, I know, which is why I tried to come back here again... figured there would be a spark of life here..
[02:08:33] < Damakaru> "BrandonW releases UnivOS"?  Now that is news.
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[02:09:50] < Damakaru> Oh, no, wait, the middle section could actually be the educational part.
[02:10:51] < Damakaru> It helps you improve your memory, teaches you a little bit 'bout comparisons in common programming languages, and establishes associations.
[02:11:48] < Damakaru> It is a Swiss Army Knife in two words and an operator.
[02:21:51] < _Auron_> I have discovered something
[02:22:00] < _Auron_> habanero chips are great for getting phlegm out of my bronchials
[02:22:07] < _Auron_> forces me to cough really bad. :D
[02:22:26] < Damakaru> So are the Ranch-Style Beans with Jalepenos.
[02:22:33] < _Auron_> ranch is really gross
[02:22:37] < Damakaru> With half a jar of Jalepenios added.
[02:22:51] < _Auron_> jalapenos are nothing
[02:22:56] < _Auron_> they just rid a sore throat
[02:23:29] < Damakaru> They gave me a nosebleed last time.  I need those again.
[02:23:40] < Damakaru> But I ate the entire jar.
[02:23:44] < _Auron_> o.O
[02:23:46] < _Auron_> I've never had a nosebleed
[02:23:59] < _Auron_> I wonder how people get them
[02:25:06] < Damakaru> I don't know, but it felt good to breath again, and it would to now.
[02:25:24] < _Auron_> these chips also help with a sore throat so.. double purpose
[02:25:28] < Damakaru> Even if I'll be regretting it later.  :P
[02:25:44] < Damakaru> Spicy things are worth the pain.  :)
[02:26:14] < Damakaru> Are they the Doritos habenero ?
[02:26:37] < _Auron_> yes
[02:26:52] < _Auron_> my friend wanted to get bbq sauce from the store so I went with him and got these chips
[02:26:54] < Damakaru> I tried those.  Not hot enough.
[02:26:54] < Damakaru> But they taste really good.
[02:27:54] < _Auron_> indeed
[02:28:14] < Damakaru> We've got, like, eight bottles of BBQ sauce.
[02:28:17] < Nikky> Hi Damakaru :)
[02:28:51] < Damakaru> Never know when there'll be chicken for it to go with.  :P
[02:29:11] < Damakaru> Hi, Nikky.
[02:29:17] < Nikky> How are you?
[02:29:37] < Damakaru> Fine, I guess.
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[02:38:53] <@efneTI92> [DSP_Lord] *waves hand* You will give me +v.
[02:39:03] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v DSP_Lord] by etaonrish
[02:40:01] < tifreak> hmm... who had tha anti-DSP_Lord creme last?
[02:42:13] < Damakaru> Cremes are old school.  We got pills now.  :P
[02:43:23] < tifreak> heh
[02:43:53] < Damakaru> The side effects list for Antilordorex fills up a binder, though.  :P
[02:44:11] < tifreak> Well...
[02:44:23] < tifreak> I correctly seems to create the string for this compressor... :)
[02:44:37] < tifreak> now to see if I cannot get it to load the the correct line of the program...
[02:44:56] < Damakaru> Decreased grammar is one of the side effects.
[02:45:05] < Damakaru> ;)
[02:45:22] < tifreak> that is because I have not slept worth.. anything, in 2 weeks
[02:45:30] < tifreak> and trying to push through this bad headache I have
[02:45:41] < Damakaru> What do you know, two more.
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[02:46:47] < Damakaru> See, despite the drawbacks, the product works.  ^_^
[02:47:20] < Damakaru> I'd add some Tylenol and Lunesta and then you'll be all good.
[02:47:42] < tifreak> I.. I think I have this set up to work correctly... o.o
[02:48:20] < tifreak> all that is required to finish it.. is make it loop, and to get it to go through all 6 programs to paste the code..
[03:08:26]  * Netham45 got Windows 98 on his PSP
[03:08:35] < _Auron_> Netham45: orly?
[03:08:42] < _Auron_> that seems a bit pointless
[03:08:48] < Netham45> extremely
[03:08:55] < Netham45> but, it's still novel. ^.^
[03:09:00] < Netham45> going to blow my friends away at school
[03:10:01] < _Auron_> I'm sure it destroys whatever card you put it on, too.
[03:16:47] <+Merth> spaaaaaaaaaaaam :D
[03:16:57] < Netham45> I have 4 1GB MSD cards
[03:17:58] < _Auron_> hardstyle is now my favorite electronic style of music
[03:18:00] < Damakaru> Too bad that browsers don't scale everything up or down when you change the magnification on a page.
[03:18:43] < _Auron_> Damakaru: I believe opera does?
[03:18:54] < Damakaru> * besides Opera.
[03:22:56] < Nikky> yeah, opera does
[03:22:59] < Nikky> go opera
[03:23:22] < Damakaru> Flash makes all browsers look bad.
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[03:25:19] <@efneTI92> [Tyler2] I no longer speak fluent dialup.
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[03:29:34] < Damakaru> Still begs the question, if Opera is so superior, then why isn't there more people using it than Firefox?
[03:29:46] < chronomex> it's non-free
[03:30:12] < tifreak> because the smart people use opera.. which proves how many stupid people there are out there? </guess>
[03:30:20] < tifreak> :P
[03:30:26] < Damakaru> Windows is not free, either, and it has ninty-something percent of the market share.
[03:31:35] < chronomex> *ninety*
[03:31:44] < chronomex> spelling, it makes or breaks your resume
[03:32:16] < Netham45> :(
[03:32:23] < Netham45> my PSP just gave me a BSOD
[03:32:28] < tifreak> lol
[03:32:36] < Damakaru> So does capitalization.  :P
[03:32:43] < Damakaru> Hahaha...
[03:32:53] < chronomex> Netham45: black or blue?
[03:32:58] < Netham45> blue
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[03:33:01] < Netham45> it was within the OS
[03:33:12] < Damakaru> Technology rebels against you.
[03:33:13] < Netham45> (I put Windows 98SE on it)
[03:33:22] < chronomex> wait, what
[03:33:34] < Netham45> I put Windows 98SE on it
[03:33:39] < Damakaru> * seems to rebel
[03:33:52] < chronomex> why did you do that?
[03:33:54] < chronomex> and ... how?
[03:34:03] < Netham45> for bragging rights at school
[03:34:07] < chronomex> um okay
[03:34:12] < Netham45> and with DosBox for the PSP
[03:34:14] < chronomex> I'd slit my wrists if I were you
[03:34:19] < Damakaru> I would, too.
[03:34:26] < chronomex> Damakaru: same to you
[03:34:39] < Damakaru> I'd do it with a chain saw.
[03:34:39] < Damakaru> Wait, what'd I do?
[03:35:04] < Damakaru> Nothing has BSODed on me yet.
[03:35:19] < chronomex> you're randomist, that's what
[03:35:21] < Damakaru> Nothing ever gets a chance to.  :)
[03:35:43] < Damakaru> See how educational that topic is?  In fact, I think it is _too_ educational....
[03:36:14] <@Andy__J> Netham45: *DOS*box... makes not claim at being able to run windows
[03:36:30] < Netham45> Andy__J, do you want screenshots?
[03:36:56] < Netham45> I can get them off of DOSBOX on the PC easily enough
[03:37:13] < Damakaru> [Cough]Photoshop[Cough, cough...]
[03:38:42] < chronomex> you'd be better off running it in Bochs
[03:38:51] < Netham45> Bochs on the PSP is slow as hell
[03:42:38] < Netham45> http://netham45.org/dosbox98.jpg
[03:42:44] < _Auron_> I believe the storm just hit me.
[03:43:38]  * Damakaru shivers.
[03:44:10] < Damakaru> I saw Vista, and suddenly the room got really cold.
[03:44:23] < Netham45> >.>
[03:44:45] < _Auron_> :X
[03:44:47] < _Auron_> http://www.wfaa.com/s/dws/img/standing/weather/radar/regional/radar2.jpg
[03:45:11] < Damakaru> Hahaha, all the shit from over here moved over there.
[03:45:55] < Damakaru> In fact, there was no shit here.  It just skipped over Lubbock like we didn't exist and flew over there.
[03:46:01] < _Auron_> ugh, if the power goes out I'll be bored
[03:46:04]  * _Auron_ goes to charge his psp
[03:46:25] < _Auron_> some idiot is going to run into a powerline and we'll be out of power for about 5-6 hours, I'm almost certain
[03:47:07] < Damakaru> One time, there were storms every around Lubbock, and we didn't get any of it.  The storm, like formed a circle around the county, but just didn't want to enter.
[03:47:08] < Damakaru> It was like, "Nah, fuck that."
[03:48:07] < _Auron_> could be an elevation thing
[03:48:46] < Nikky> #djomni?
[03:48:54] < _Auron_> eh?
[03:52:36] < Nikky> :)
[03:52:42] < Nikky> Netham45 is so adorable
[03:52:48] < Nikky> how much he wuvs kebin
[03:52:52] < Nikky> widdle smuggle bears
[03:53:54] < Damakaru> I can actually guestimate Nikky saying that.  And it scares me.
[03:54:02] < Nikky> :)
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[03:54:31] < Damakaru> I joined.
[03:54:33] < Damakaru> And I got kicked out.
[03:54:41] < Nikky> I think they don't like us
[03:54:58] < Nikky> oh well, it's their own stupid fault for not knowing what +i is
[03:54:59] < Nikky> :)
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[03:55:15] < Nikky> OxC2D: ?
[03:55:24] < Nikky> Stop changing your nick.
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[03:56:09] < Damakaru> I find it odd that my client froze and crashed just seconds after exiting that channel.
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[03:56:25] < Nikky> hah
[03:56:33] < Nikky> Netham45 probably DoSed you
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[04:23:20] < _Auron_> that was amusing
[04:23:30] < jib> That's what your mom said!
[04:24:47] < Nikky> haha
[04:25:16] < jib> I have /ym aliased to send "That's what your mom said!"
[04:25:33] < jib> and it wouldn't be worthwhile if I didn't use it at every possible opportunity
[04:25:46] < _Auron_> loser
[04:26:04] < Nikky> nice jib :)
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[04:35:41] <@efneTI92> [Merth_] Heat, time, and pressure; the things needed to make diamonds also make waffles.
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[04:40:59] < prime_> ok i need my help
[04:41:03] < Nikky> ok
[04:41:09] < jib> ok, help yourself
[04:41:18] < prime_> my friend just did a laptop repair for this family
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[04:41:32] < prime_> to reset a password, because they alledly lost it
[04:41:42] < prime_> so he did that, but found out the laptop is stolen
[04:41:50] < prime_> what does he do
[04:42:25] < Nikky> does the family know it's stolen?
[04:42:33] < prime_> likely
[04:42:41] < prime_> they claimed it was their uncle
[04:42:47] < Nikky> hrm
[04:42:48] < prime_> uncle's
[04:42:55] < prime_> and they forgot the password
[04:43:01] < Nikky> depends on how much he likes these people
[04:43:03] < prime_> and it has this guys buisness website on it
[04:44:18] < prime_> but this family knows his name and phone number
[04:44:26] < prime_> he doesnt want to get in the middle of it
[04:45:10] < Nikky> 4lame
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[05:19:01] <@efneTI92> [Sir_Lewk] Give me a biscuit, I will do science to it
[05:19:21] < chronomex> prime_: calls the polices and lets them figure it out
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[05:23:42] < prime_> yea this sucks for him
[05:23:48] < prime_> they have his info
[05:23:58] < prime_> he doesnt want to get shot or anything
[05:24:20] < prime_> i talked to him on the phone, the situation was definietly fishy
[05:24:22] < chronomex> one acronym: WPP
[05:24:43] < prime_> right
[05:25:15] < prime_> like his family is going to fucking pick up and move and change their names for a laptop
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[05:43:17] < Sir_Lewk> gah, fuck turnitin
[05:43:26] < jib> I agree entirely
[05:43:38] < Sir_Lewk> technically it's legal after they make you agree to their legal crap
[05:43:47] < Sir_Lewk> but it's still unethical as all hell
[05:45:30] < prime_> Sir_Lewk: can i message you something
[05:45:44] < prime_> its long-ish
[05:45:47] < Sir_Lewk> and, WTF is "Copyright © 1998-2008 iParadigms, LLC. All Rights Reserved. No claim to original author works." supposed to mean, inserted underneath the body of my assignment?
[05:45:52] < Sir_Lewk> ok
[05:46:01] < prime_> k just a sec
[06:16:50] < chronomex> iParadigms, hmmm?
[06:16:59] < chronomex> name sounds familiar
[06:17:04] < chronomex> oh
[06:17:07] < chronomex> they own turnitin.com
[06:17:28] < chronomex> means they own your stuff, but they're not saying they are
[06:17:33] < chronomex> it's fucking bullshit
[06:19:31] < prime_> prepare to get fucked by the long dick of the law
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[06:28:39] < Sir_Lewk> very nice TimMc
[06:28:48] < Sir_Lewk> I've only done them in 2-3 minutes
[06:29:02] < Sir_Lewk> need to start doing that again...
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[06:30:40] <+TimMc> heya
[06:30:52] <+TimMc> do you know how to map a network drive in windows via PuTTY?
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[06:38:57] <@efneTI92> [Spengo] so when are we going to ban infolines?
[06:39:45] < Nikky> no idea
[06:53:55] < nicolas> TimMc: it's technically possible, but a lot more trouble than its worth...
[06:54:35] < nicolas> well, at least if you're talking about CIFS/SMB
[06:54:51] < nicolas> mounting a WebDAV thingy might be another matter
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[07:19:21] < prime_> in my computer.....
[07:19:37] < prime_> precisely aimes lasere are etching tiny holes into metal
[07:19:41] < prime_> \*aimed
[07:19:48] < Sir_Zzzz> yes
[07:19:53] < Sir_Zzzz> it's called a cd burner
[07:19:58] < Sir_Zzzz> no
[07:20:02] < Sir_Zzzz> nvm
[07:20:07]  * Sir_Zzzz sleeps more
[07:20:10] < prime_> hahaha
[07:20:18] < prime_> yes its a...     .....     no
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[07:20:40] <@efneTI92> [_Auron_] We called it Sin.
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[07:27:17] < prime_> 93% of holes are burnt!!!
[07:27:26] < prime_> more more more
[07:31:03] < _Auron_> ?
[07:32:21] < prime_> [02:19:51] <prime_> in my computer.....
[07:32:22] < prime_> [02:20:07] <prime_> precisely aimes lasere are etching tiny holes into metal
[07:32:34] < prime_> [02:20:19] <Sir_Zzzz> yes
[07:32:35] < prime_> [02:20:24] <Sir_Zzzz> it's called a cd burner
[07:32:50] < _Auron_> heh
[07:38:07] < _Auron_> I like how my throat has adapted itself to become immune to pretty much everything I've used against it to numb the pain.
[07:38:16] < _Auron_> It refuses to stop hurting -_-
[07:50:39] < nicolas> well, cure it instead of trying to numb it?
[07:53:54] < _Auron_> um, how?
[07:54:11] < prime_> heroin relieves pain
[07:54:15] < prime_> take some of that
[07:54:18] < _Auron_> no
[07:54:35] < prime_> so does cocaine
[07:54:40] < _Auron_> I don't know why but when I lay down I'm like 3x more likely to cough
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[07:56:06] < _Auron_> I wake up with my throat hurting again, and with a slight fever. happens every day
[07:56:15] < _Auron_> yesterday I managed to completely stop all pain that I had
[07:56:19] < _Auron_> and I felt 100% normal
[07:56:26] < _Auron_> which was cool
[07:56:43] < _Auron_> then when I went to sleep, I woke up 2 hours later only to be coughing in pain again
[07:57:03] < prime_> i blame the weed
[07:57:12] < _Auron_> dude, lol
[07:57:20] < _Auron_> I have two friends that smoke 5x+ a day
[07:57:25] < _Auron_> and I get the same stuff they do
[07:57:37] < _Auron_> they don't get sick
[07:58:33] < _Auron_> I don't think that has anything to do with it
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[08:23:44] <+krisk> lu
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[10:05:44] <+krisk> http://www.apple.com/trailers/independent/monstercamp/trailer/
[10:05:46] <+krisk> oh lawdy
[10:08:40] < _Digital> shoot me
[10:08:47] <+krisk> *BLAM*
[10:09:12] < prime_> LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARP
[10:09:48] < prime_> that video is being a bitch and not loading
[10:10:03] < _Digital> I had no problem
[10:10:13] < _Digital> then again I shouldn't have any issues
[10:10:22] < _Digital> given fios an all
[10:10:28] < _Digital> I still hate my router
[10:10:46] < _Digital> need to de-brick this linksys and get open wrt back on it
[10:11:43] < _Digital> its half teh speed with half the ram but can run 4 time to connections with smooth QoS on 15 mbps without a hitch
[10:12:48] < prime_> i still need to see iron man
[10:12:55] < prime_> so im not seeing that fag movie
[10:13:10] <+krisk> me too but i dont want to
[10:13:16] < _Digital> which is the later you are refering too?
[10:13:26] < _Digital> and its a good movie
[10:13:56] <+krisk> i dont like comics and superheroe stuff, silly mary sue bullshit
[10:14:19] < _Digital> sorry, meant for prime_ 
[10:14:33] < prime_> i want to see iron man
[10:14:40] < prime_> so time for fags with swords
[10:14:49] < prime_> **no time
[10:15:03] < _Digital> ah, yeah
[10:15:07] <+krisk> i wasnt suggesting anyone should watch that
[10:15:16] < prime_> its ok
[10:15:32] < prime_> who knows maybe hbo will have it one day and i will be bored at that time
[10:18:03] <+krisk> bah java swing
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[10:47:50] < aero1337> is there a way to edit the ti 84+ os?
[10:48:04] <@benryves> Not really, aero1337.
[10:48:52] <@benryves> (Assuming you mean edit the existing OS). You could write a new OS from scratch, but modifying the existing one would not be all that practical without having access to its source (which we don't).
[10:49:07] <@benryves> (And that would also be of dubious legality). ;)
[10:49:32] < aero1337> thx then another question: are there any drivers to use the ti 84+ as a mass storage which you could access through the windows explorer?
[10:50:56] <@benryves> brandonw was working on some software that did that on the calculator side.
[10:51:11] <@benryves> (As well as making the calculator appear as a USB keyboard).
[10:52:24] < aero1337> ive already seen his project but he hasnt yet published anything as far as i know....but thx
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[10:56:24] < aero1337> sry for disturbing you again... ive just downloaded the VTI tool. in the calc list of that prog my 84 + isnt listed, is there a way to nevertheless download the rom
[10:57:10] <@benryves> Nope, VTI doesn't support OS > 1.12.
[10:57:33] <@benryves> I think WabbitEmu supports the 84+?
[10:58:36] <@benryves> (As for a link, don't ask me. I've never been able to find any of RevSoft's releases). :\
[10:59:02] < aero1337> ok^^
[10:59:19] < aero1337> but thx again^^
[11:00:27] < aero1337> ive found the tool but i still need the rom....
[11:02:30] <@benryves> I believe TiLP can dump ROMs -- http://lpg.ticalc.org/prj_tilp/win32.html
[11:03:28] < aero1337> ill try it soon lots of thx...
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[11:04:37] <@efneTI92> [Leofox] All we do in hell is play DDR!
[11:05:01] <+krisk> yoyoyo
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[11:05:29] <@efneTI92> [TimMc] TimMc is solving the Rubik's Cube in 26.34 seconds!
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[11:05:39] <+krisk> yoyoyo
[11:07:25] < Leofox> lo
[11:08:06] <+krisk> sup
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[13:01:37] < tr1p1ea> http://www.frekenceflash.com/Flash/shii-song.swf
[13:01:55] < tr1p1ea> O_o
[13:02:25] <@benryves> 'lo tr1p1ea :)
[13:03:38] < tr1p1ea> hey ben :P
[13:03:53] <+krisk> dawww
[13:04:30] <@benryves> How're things, tr1p1ea?
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[13:25:29] < tr1p1ea> good ben (belated)
[13:25:45] <@benryves> Only twenty minutes or so. ;) Working on anything in particular?
[13:27:19] < moko|586> Good morning from Glenwood Springs, CO
[13:30:22] < Milayrdo> Good Morning from Flint, MI
[13:31:01] <@benryves> Good afternoon from Caterham, Surrey.
[13:32:22] < Milayrdo> So whats new in #tcpa? I haven't realy been reading since #tcpa fell into window slot number 10 on my screen session, the point of no return
[13:32:30] < moko|586> haha
[13:35:38] <+DSP_Lord> good morning from the black hole of the Marine Corps >_>
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[15:06:38] <+krisk> lu
[15:06:59] <@benryves> Mmm, LU biscuits.
[15:07:07] <+krisk> no, lu
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[15:09:01] < Sir_Lewk> I love biscuits
[15:09:17] < Sir_Lewk> I actually major in biscuit science
[15:18:45] < Sir_Lewk> face -> }  ) <- palm
[15:18:50] < Sir_Lewk> })
[15:19:36] <+krisk> could just type *facepalm* or something
[15:22:53] < Sir_Lewk> this could only be expressed in primitive ascii art
[15:24:27] < Sir_Lewk> idiot kid comes up to me and tells me that using macosx on a pc is illegal (I'm using KDE 4...)
[15:24:40] < Sir_Lewk> I tell him that he's an idiot and that I'm using linux
[15:25:16] < Sir_Lewk> he gets a shocked expression on his face and tells me that he's going to report me to microsoft for violating their EULA
[15:25:32] < Sir_Lewk> I facepalm and tell him to stfu
[15:25:58] < Sir_Lewk> "})" describes it much better
[15:27:26] <+krisk> the whole story thing does that pretty well actually
[15:31:57] < Sir_Lewk> I expect that kind of stupid shit on the internet, but IRL?
[15:32:21] < Leofox> people always think i'm using linux because i use blackbox on windows
[15:32:28] < Sir_Lewk> lol
[15:32:42] < Leofox> I thought the windows icons in the tray would be a dead giveaway but no
[15:32:56] < Sir_Lewk> well that's somewhat more understandable, but yeah
[15:33:41] < Sir_Lewk> I have no clue why this fool thought I was using macosx, my color theme is dark as hell
[15:34:24] < Sir_Lewk> maybe the idea of me using linux was just to horrible for him to consider...
[15:34:44] < Leofox> some people think anything thats not windows is mac
[15:35:06] < Sir_Lewk> he seemed to be familiar that linux existed
[15:35:15] < Sir_Lewk> and that it was somehow satanic or something
[15:35:44] < Leofox> I don't see how using linux violates the ms eula
[15:35:52] < Sir_Lewk> nor do I...
[15:35:55] < Leofox> you might be violating your OEMs eula
[15:36:01] <+DSP_Lord> MS owns all PC's, obv.
[15:36:09] < Leofox> but how would he know who built your PC?
[15:36:15] <+DSP_Lord> that must have been his thinking
[15:36:21] < Leofox> i'm going to build my new one myself
[15:36:28] < Sir_Lewk> fsck my OEM, lenovo is a bunch of commies
[15:36:50] < Leofox> I should print an eula for myself "you will not install windows ME on any computer built by leofox inc."
[15:36:51] < Sir_Lewk> actually, they shipped this laptop with linux sometimes
[15:36:57] <+DSP_Lord> ewww
[15:37:14] <+DSP_Lord> Leofox: never say that word in combination with those letters ever again
[15:37:28] < Leofox> heehee
[15:37:40] <+DSP_Lord> worst... OS... evar
[15:37:53] < Sir_Lewk> MY FAMILY STILL USES IT O.O
[15:37:59] < Leofox> i would consider some versions of linux worse but still
[15:38:06] < Leofox> DS linux for example
[15:38:07] < Sir_Lewk> they "upgraded" from win98se :O
[15:38:20] <+DSP_Lord> upgraded my ass
[15:38:26] <+DSP_Lord> more like superdowngraded
[15:38:33] < Sir_Lewk> yeah
[15:38:41] < Leofox> there was no reason for that OS to exist
[15:38:50] <+DSP_Lord> ^
[15:38:52] < Leofox> 98 wasnt that old and XP was coming
[15:39:04] <+DSP_Lord> and there was also 2000
[15:39:13] < Leofox> 2000 was great, but that was for the business market
[15:39:20] < Sir_Lewk> I got *one* of the computers using ubuntu and my mother just got a new laptop with xp on it, it's hopeless for the rest though
[15:39:26] <+DSP_Lord> true, but it was great nonetheless
[15:39:32] <+krisk> now change that to xp wasnt that old and windows7 was coming and what do we get?
[15:39:46] <+DSP_Lord> i'd rather use a computer with Windows 3.11 than one with WinME
[15:39:53] < Leofox> krisk: XP was old, it was almost 5 years old or so
[15:40:01] < Leofox> and windows 7 wont be coming soon
[15:40:15] < Sir_Lewk> vista is still shit though
[15:40:16] <@benryves> 2000 is pretty nice, I run it on old computers.
[15:40:25] < Leofox> my server used to run it
[15:40:27] < Leofox> now i have 2003
[15:40:34] <@benryves> Vista is fab. :D
[15:40:40] < Sir_Lewk> eww
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[15:41:32] < Sir_Lewk> I can software render any of the pretty effect "aero" has with kwin4 and still use less resources
[15:41:54] < Leofox> theres more to vista than aero Sir_Lewk 
[15:42:09] < Sir_Lewk> I'd hope so
[15:42:27] < Leofox> and you cant call KDE lightweight
[15:42:35] < Sir_Lewk> the hell I can't
[15:42:47] < Sir_Lewk> KDE 4 uses less ram than XFCE on my system
[15:42:48] <@benryves> Aero is nice (no more ugly tearing from software repainting) but not really a deal-breaker.
[15:43:01] < Leofox> BBLean is lighweight, and i use that
[15:43:31] <+krisk> fuck yeah compiz
[15:43:57] < Leofox> fuck yeah OS wars
[15:44:14] < Sir_Lewk> fuck yeah window manager wars
[15:44:23] <@benryves> Heh. Just use whatever lets you get your work done with the minimum amount of hassle. :)
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[16:53:39] <+krisk> I dont suppose anyone knows anything about coding ragdoll physics?
[16:54:04] < V200> not know what is
[16:54:28] <@benryves> krisk: From scratch, or using a physics lib?
[16:55:06] <+krisk> im currently fooling around with making it up from scratch but no objection to a physics lib if it can support my ideas
[16:55:49]  * benryves wonders what the licensing on Euphoria is.
[16:58:13] <+krisk> is that you point the model in a direction and it figures out how to walk there?
[16:59:01] <@benryves> Something like that, yes. http://www.naturalmotion.com/euphoria.htm :)
[16:59:09] <+krisk> yeah im reading
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[17:00:52] <+krisk> "export animation data for use in your game" so does it still create the animation in realtime based on the behaviour or is it prerendered by endorphin?
[17:01:40] <@benryves> I believe it's intended that the animation is generated in realtime as you play the game.
[17:02:03] <+krisk> i hopse so
[17:02:30] <@benryves> Though it would make sense if the tools also let you export conventional animation sequences if your game engine doesn't support the library directly.
[17:02:41] <+krisk> of course
[17:03:41] <+ports> =/ i think the temperature sensor on my motherboard for my cpu is faulty
[17:03:50] <+ports> its reading 98C and auto powering down my computer
[17:04:40] <@benryves> Are you sure that the CPU isn't 98'C?
[17:04:58] <+ports> heatsink isnt hot.. and the metal plate behind the cpu isnt hot
[17:05:01] <+krisk> watching the vids...
[17:05:40] <+ports> maybe i applied too much thermal paste?
[17:06:21] <+krisk> also happen to know anything about doing it from scratch?
[17:06:50] <@benryves> No, sorry krisk. Never tried it myself.
[17:07:02] <+ports> benryves, could too much thermal paste be a problem?
[17:07:10] < V200> 98? my goodness
[17:07:10] <@Andy__J> yes
[17:07:16] <@Andy__J> too much is just as bad as not enough
[17:07:22] <@Andy__J> but there's no way it shoudl be that hot
[17:07:33] <+ports> k.. i put on a healthy layer... ill take it off
[17:07:36] < V200> won't it automatically power off at like 70?
[17:07:41] <@Andy__J> ... you put on a dot
[17:07:43] <@Andy__J> and that's it
[17:07:46] <+ports> V200, 80 warning, 90 auto off
[17:07:59] <@Andy__J> and those thresholds are WAY too high.
[17:08:05] <@Andy__J> You want more like 60 warning, 70 off
[17:09:06] < V200> so when you guys apply the paste, do you just put a dot? or do you put a dot and then spread it around?
[17:09:15] < V200> I read instructions that said to spread it around
[17:09:26] <+krisk> all contact area needs paste on it
[17:09:31] <@Andy__J> You put a dot and then putting the heatsink on it spreads it out
[17:09:40] <@Andy__J> of course it does vary slightly per processor
[17:09:48] <@benryves> Last time I put together a PC, thermal paste wasn't required. :\
[17:10:00] <@Andy__J> but on my ath64 x2 the proper procedure is a small dot in the middle, then putting the heat sink on spreads it sufficiently
[17:10:24] <@Andy__J> as the cores are in the middle and the rest of the heatspreader isn't significant
[17:10:32] <@Andy__J> and it runs nice and cool even under full load
[17:11:17] <@Andy__J> http://www.arcticsilver.com/arctic_silver_instructions.htm
[17:11:20] <@Andy__J> Follow that.
[17:11:34] <@Andy__J> It should be more or less the same even if you aren't using Arctic Silver.
[17:11:46] <+krisk> those tools are pretty slick
[17:18:01] <+ports> Andy__J, ok i just removed a bunch of the thermal paste... and reseated the heatsink.... still same thing
[17:18:28] <@Andy__J> something could very well be borked
[17:21:19] <+ports> yeah im thinking the temp sensor is faulty
[17:24:51] < V200> without a heatsink, turn on the computer with your hand placed against the processor
[17:24:53] < V200> and see what happens
[17:24:57] < V200> or just a finger or two
[17:25:25] < V200> the color of your finger afterwards will be a good indication of something
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[17:26:28] < V200> if your finger is black, that's a good sign
[17:27:19] < V200> Andy__J: I'm also bored at work
[17:27:33] < V200> all of the Macs are taken, and SMB is turned off on the server
[17:27:45] <+ports> how is my finger being black a good sign?
[17:27:51] < V200> and since apple is greedy, there is no easy way to do afp from windows
[17:28:20] < V200> it means that your processor is working really hard
[17:29:17] < V200> that is, until the experiment is over and it no longer works
[17:33:32] < V200> unless your motherboard is smart enough to turn off... which apparently it isn't if it gets to 98
[17:33:49] <+ports> it turns off after 30 seconds
[17:33:55] <+ports> i think it waits to get a stable above 90C temp
[17:34:09] < V200> oh that's smart
[17:34:28] <+ports> at least it doesnt screw you with 1 faulty reading
[17:40:10] <@Andy__J> there's no reason to need to do afp from windows anyway
[17:40:16] <@Andy__J> if you really want to do it, write a driver for it
[17:43:12] < V200> I have a reason
[17:43:21] < V200> xserve with smb disabled
[17:45:27] < V200> I suppose I could just use ftp
[17:54:14] < V200> apparently that's also disabled...
[17:54:15] < V200> I can't work
[17:57:01]  * seidior waves to Andy
[18:07:32] < Nikky> V200: The Lakers suck.
[18:07:56] <+ports> woohoo!
[18:08:04] <+ports> Andy__J, cpu temp is at 45-51C
[18:08:20] <@Andy__J> hi seidior 
[18:08:22] <+ports> i had to remove the motherboard and seat the heatsink... apparently 2 of the pins werent clicking properly
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[18:10:43] <+krisk> hmm how hard can it be to find a simple tutorial on coding ragdolls
[18:20:00] < V200> Nikky: 3-2
[18:31:34] < Nikky> Soon to be 4-3
[18:32:59] < V200> lakers with 4
[18:33:10] < Nikky> wrong
[18:36:37] <+krisk> "I'll be in my office. There's a lot of porn piling up on the internet. It doesn't download itself!"
[18:37:10] < V200> not since 1999, nope
[18:37:37]  * seidior waves to Nikky
[18:38:10] < seidior> krisk: heh.
[18:39:14]  * chronomex waves to seidior
[18:39:55]  * Andy__J waves to seidior and chronomex 
[18:40:03] < seidior> krisk: you guys really helped yesterday, and I thank you and nicolas deeply
[18:40:17] <+krisk> okidoki
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[18:40:22] < seidior> hi chronomex, sorry I don't know you very well
[18:40:32] <@Andy_J> If Cricket trys to PM me again, heads shall roll.
[18:40:40] <+krisk> dont suppose you know a thing or two about programming ragdolls??
[18:41:03] < seidior> krisk: ask Valve. otherwise, no, no clue. physics is hard =/
[18:41:37] <+krisk> np
[18:41:57] < seidior> krisk: one of my classmates came up to me afterward and said "it's good you went last, 'cause you completely overshadowed the rest of our projects."
[18:42:06] <+krisk> cool
[18:42:06] < chronomex> seidior: that's all right
[18:42:13] < chronomex> I'm going to have lunch now, bye
[18:42:17] < chronomex> have to attend to irl friends you know
[18:42:44] <+krisk> bb
[18:42:52] < seidior> yeah, lunch sounds good.
[18:42:55] < seidior> *pof*
[18:43:00] <+krisk> fop
[18:47:04] <@Andy_J> damn west-coasters
[18:47:07] <@Andy_J> <_<
[18:48:35] <+ports> anyone remember Drug Wars?
[18:50:06] <@E-J> http://gallery.homostelu.info/id/32
[18:50:48] < prime_> drug wars fuck yea
[19:04:48] <@E-J> http://kecy.roumen.cz/Sims2_-_Basement_pack.jpg
[19:08:04] <+krisk> oh lawdy
[19:11:45] < Netham45> is there a program that I could use to create a virtual image(heh) of a real folder/drive? Like, I could mount an image in an emulator and it'd redirect to a real physical drive?
[19:12:59] < prime_> im not quite sure what you want
[19:13:11] < prime_> but in dosbox it does something like that i think
[19:13:26] < prime_> you stary my mounting a folder in dosbox
[19:13:39] < prime_> like mount k: c:\blah
[19:13:48] < prime_> and now, you get k:
[19:13:56] < Netham45> I want like a dynamic image file that is an image of my C: drive
[19:14:09] < prime_> but, and the contents of c:\blah are in k:
[19:14:25] < Netham45> and dosbox is what I'm using, but I am booting to an alternate OS in it, so mounts are all cancelled when I boot into another OS in it.
[19:14:28] < prime_> hmm
[19:14:55] < prime_> this sounds like attempt to solve a problem that is probably easier to solve by doing something else
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[19:19:31] < chronomex> you want dosbox to emulate a disk-based filesystem using a folder?
[19:19:50] < chronomex> I'd suggest some sort of network filesystem instead
[19:20:15] <+ports> i like dosbox
[19:20:40] < prime_> yea, dosbox plays drugwars
[19:21:41] <+ports> i used to play drugwars on my ti83+SE
[19:23:33] < prime_> yea, lots of clones
[19:24:09] < Netham45> I wish to mount a virtual image of my C drive(an image file that redirects to the physical C drive) inside of a VM.
[19:24:57] < chronomex> don't
[19:25:05] < chronomex> two machines mounting the same fs at the same time == bad
[19:26:24] < Netham45> well, I want it within a folder, and it needs to be fat16/32, and my C drive is NTFS
[19:26:47] < chronomex> make up your mind
[19:27:02] <+krisk> any vm?
[19:27:04] < chronomex> same bits, or emulated fs?
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[19:28:44] <+ports> prime_, back in in the day.. 5-6 years ago i had drug wars on my cell phone has a java game
[19:28:44] < Netham45> I want an emulated FS
[19:28:59] < prime_> ports: sweet
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[19:30:51] < chronomex> Netham45: why can't you use a network fs?
[19:31:51] < Netham45> chronomex, because it's on my PSP, and dosbox won't connect to the network on it, so I'm using irshell to mount a network drive before hand, but I need an image to mount.
[19:32:15] < chronomex> ah
[19:32:20] < chronomex> um, I don't know how to help you
[19:32:21] < chronomex> how big is it?
[19:32:26] < chronomex> do you have linux?
[19:32:39] < chronomex> must it be files that already exist elsewhere, or is copying them OK?
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[19:34:40] < chronomex> cos in your situation I suggest just making a disk image
[19:34:52] < Netham45> yea, it's looking like that might be my only option. =/
[19:35:00] < chronomex> it's not that hard
[19:35:08] < chronomex> what OS do you have on your desktop?
[19:35:11] < Netham45> Vista
[19:35:15] < chronomex> oh.
[19:35:18] < chronomex> I'm sorry.
[19:35:19] < chronomex> actually
[19:35:21] < chronomex> I'm not sorry.
[19:35:21] < Netham45> >.>
[19:35:24] < Netham45> I like it.
[19:35:35] < chronomex> pity.
[19:36:16] < chronomex> okay this is nuts
[19:36:35] < prime_> linux?
[19:36:41] < prime_> you're right, it is nuts
[19:36:53] < chronomex> no, I'm talking about something else
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[19:46:18] <@efneTI92> [Dantes] <-- This person really is Dantes for sure. Anyone without this infoline is not.
[19:46:24] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Dantes] by efneTI92
[19:46:24] <+Dantes> Hello everyone.
[19:47:05] <+Dantes> Hi tr1p1ea, Nikky, Leofox, E-J, krisk and everyone else
[19:47:46] <+Dantes> Is there *still* need for that infoline? It's at least two years old!?
[19:48:13] <+krisk> lu
[19:49:47] < prime_> so remove it if you dont like it
[19:50:25] <+Dantes> ... How can I remove it ? o-o
[19:50:42] < prime_> /MSG efneTI92 INFO <password> [channel] [info line]
[19:50:52] < prime_> actually
[19:50:53] < prime_> /MSG efneTI92 INFO <password> [channel] NONE
[19:50:56] <+Dantes> Well an admin put that for me, I never knew I could change it myself :p
[19:50:58] < prime_> that is what removes it
[19:51:14] < prime_> oh well hah, you are going to have to live with your scarlet letter forever
[19:51:30] <+Dantes> o-o
[19:51:44] <+Dantes> It's not like I come here often anymore anyway
[19:51:53] < prime_> or just change your hostmask enough so that the bots dont recognize you
[19:52:29] <+krisk> how you doin?
[19:52:50] <+Dantes> Hmm... Not so great.
[19:53:09] <+krisk> how come
[19:53:38] <+Dantes> My studies are going awful, I'm ill all the time and depressed...
[19:54:19] <+Dantes> Oh hi DarkAuron too.
[19:55:57] <+krisk> that sucks
[19:56:21] <+Dantes> Yea it does.
[19:56:29] <+Dantes> How are you?
[19:56:34] <+krisk> well
[19:57:22] <+krisk> working out is nice but other than that shitsux
[19:58:12] <+krisk> also the awful studies thing though thats the last thing i care about, bored
[19:58:34] <+Dantes> :(
[19:59:26] <+krisk> the studies thing is fixable of course but im not really bothered about it
[19:59:50] < prime_> well, school almost over right?
[20:00:11] <+krisk> yeah but that doesnt fix things does it
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[20:00:32] <+krisk> in any case im pretending it already is and ill fix things later
[20:01:04] <+krisk> some other things have priority over college
[20:01:57] <+Dantes> like?
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[20:03:31] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v gh_] by SnowCrash
[20:03:50] <+krisk> well im more concerned with obtaining some nice things, like having something nice to do frequently maybe with somebody nice even
[20:04:47] <+Dantes> :S
[20:05:11] <+krisk> weightlifting is fun but that only fills an hour every other day
[20:05:23] <+Dantes> lol
[20:05:27] <+Dantes> weightlifting... pff :p
[20:05:30] <+Dantes> http://www.somethinghappens.net/d/20070222.html -> lol ^^
[20:05:58] <+krisk> hehe
[20:06:47] <+krisk> so fixing things i got screwed over with at college doesnt have much of a priority
[20:07:32] <+krisk> if this job offer works out i can use it to fix college points andm ake money to move out on my own which would be one of those fun things
[20:08:37] <+krisk> right now im so bored waiting for friend peoples to have time to do things im actually writing a little java game
[20:09:04] < prime_> you dont have to wait...
[20:09:04] < prime_> http://westpalmbeach.craigslist.org/ers/680874406.html
[20:09:09] < prime_> see? insta-friend
[20:09:38] <+Dantes> lol
[20:09:38] <+krisk> i dont like blondes
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[20:10:34] <@efneTI92> [rivereye] Is it time to go fishing?
[20:10:43] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v rivereye] by efneTI86
[20:11:08] <+Dantes> hi rivereye
[20:11:38] < chronomex> "The first century starts at 0001-01-01 00:00:00 AD, although they did not know it at the time. This definition applies to all Gregorian calendar countries. There is no century number 0, you go from -1 to 1. If you disagree with this, please write your complaint to: Pope, Cathedral Saint-Peter of Roma, Vatican."
[20:11:43] < chronomex> nice
[20:11:56] <+krisk> my plan is to hang out at the beach a couple of times from this weekend on and go to a alt/metal/gothic club here in amsterdam to see if its any good and if so hang out there often  :O
[20:12:20] < chronomex> sounds fun
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[20:12:36] <+krisk> not by myself
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[20:24:04] <+Dantes> nice krisk :)
[20:24:24] <+krisk> if it happens
[20:25:14] < prime_> ggggarrrgh
[20:25:22] < prime_> shit sucks
[20:25:33] <+krisk> yes
[20:30:53] < V200> I M 9 yrs owld
[20:31:22] < prime_> OMG!!!111 HoW CAN yOU t3ll how OLD I am By HOW I tpyeee1!!!!!!
[20:31:35] < chronomex> new survey guys
[20:32:03] < prime_> i stole it
[20:32:09] < chronomex> that's what I thought
[20:32:16] <+krisk> so, Dantes just dropping by or anything specific that brought you here?
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[20:35:13] < chronomex> ryantmer!
[20:35:39] < Netham45> hmm, tightened the screws on my PSP, it feels alot more sturdy now. ^.^
[20:36:29] <+Dantes> krisk, idk, just bored and depressed :|
[20:37:00] <+krisk> :/
[20:37:03] <+Dantes> well it's better now
[20:37:08] <+Dantes> but i was when i came ^^
[20:37:25] <+krisk> thats good
[20:37:30] <+krisk> cool cool
[20:38:01] <+Dantes> lol
[20:39:32] <+Dantes> and 'course wanting to talk to some old friends
[20:39:45] <+Dantes> but apart from you nobody i know well is talking :(
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[20:40:09] <+krisk> yeah theyre on sporadically
[20:40:16] <+Tari> lurking, more like
[20:40:20] <+krisk> yeah
[20:40:32] <+krisk> im always active when im on, otherwise my pc is off
[20:41:20] <+Dantes> heh
[20:41:21] <+Dantes> i see
[20:42:19] <+Tailsfan> how many permutations of the letters in tennessee
[20:42:40] < prime_> npr
[20:42:43] < prime_> use that
[20:43:09] < prime_> is each letter seperate?
[20:43:22] < prime_> or are all the es indstinguisable
[20:43:41] < prime_> e and n and s
[20:43:58] <+Tailsfan> the letetrs are no deiierent
[20:44:05] <+Dantes> So how's the TI community doing? I've been checking TIcalc.org sometimes, not much special going on it seems?
[20:44:07] <+Tailsfan> the es are the same
[20:44:11] < prime_> k
[20:44:32] < prime_> i dont remember... but there are two functions
[20:44:33] < chronomex> Dantes: mostly dead, I'm working on a report of its viability to be released sometime this summer
[20:44:39] < prime_> nPr and nCr
[20:44:54] <+Tailsfan> huh
[20:44:57] < prime_> number of permutations, number combinations
[20:44:59] < prime_> respectively
[20:45:23] <+Dantes> chronomex: ouch :(
[20:45:39] < prime_> i forget how to do it if there are multiples of the name thing
[20:45:43] < chronomex> yeah :S
[20:45:54] < chronomex> c'est la vie
[20:46:03] < prime_> chronomex: seriously?
[20:46:09] < chronomex> what's seriously?
[20:46:22] < prime_> your viability report
[20:46:24] < chronomex> yes
[20:46:36] < chronomex> I've got awesome graphs to get up
[20:46:38] < prime_> ok, i look forwarding to reading it
[20:46:39] <+Tailsfan> huh
[20:46:42] < chronomex> cool
[20:46:49] < chronomex> it'll be on ticalc.org when I release it
[20:46:49] <+Dantes> I thought it was dying, but well, you always hope it won't :)
[20:47:03] < chronomex> magnus has given me read access to ticalc.org's db, which is very helpful
[20:47:09] < chronomex> if you have other data I'd appreciate that
[20:47:26]  * Tailsfan is a n00b.  I can't even use tilp right
[20:47:37] <+Dantes> Well you could discuss about TI programming groups... Afaik they're dying...
[20:47:49] <+Dantes> Hmm I hope Jonathan Coulton will answer my mail soon...
[20:48:05] < chronomex> I prefer quantitative measures :)
[20:48:32] <+Dantes> :p
[20:48:34]  * Tailsfan wants help
[20:48:46] <+Dantes> Well you can't analyze everything by numbers
[20:48:51] < chronomex> can too!
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[20:49:01] <+Dantes> <.<
[20:49:07] <+krisk> that is 5 times not true
[20:49:11] <+Dantes> Maths freak? :)
[20:49:13] < chronomex> well I will
[20:49:18] < chronomex> and you'll be all "how?!?"
[20:49:29] < chronomex> then I smile and I win
[20:49:45] <+Dantes> o.o
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[20:50:10] <+Dantes> Nobody know Jonathan Coulton? He's the guy who wrote the song Still Alive from Portal... He's made so much other great music too ^^
[20:50:21] < chronomex> nice
[20:50:24] <+Tailsfan> i know
[20:50:35] <+Tailsfan> i listen to his songs
[20:50:39] <+Tailsfan> soometimes
[20:50:47] <+Dantes> Sent him a mail to ask where he gets the inspiration for his music and how he goes about writing it... And how he records them
[20:50:51] < prime_> Dantes: his name is too similar to a better musician, John Coltrane
[20:50:51] <+Dantes> So do I tailsfan :D
[20:50:56] <+Dantes> lol
[20:50:56] <+Tailsfan> k
[20:51:04] <+Dantes> John Coltrane is SO different from Jonathan Coulton :D
[20:51:07] <+Tailsfan> now i want matyh help, not chitter chatter
[20:51:13] <+Dantes> o-o
[20:51:19] < chronomex> not can has
[20:51:20] < Netham45> Jonathan Coulton is awesome, heh. :D
[20:51:21]  * _Auron_ is doing squats
[20:51:23] <+Dantes> Chitter chatter is what IRC channels are for
[20:51:25] < chronomex> yes
[20:51:26] <+Dantes> Netham: So true.
[20:51:27] <+Dantes> Hi Auron !
[20:51:32] <+Dantes> Squats? :P
[20:51:36] < _Auron_> 'ello
[20:51:36] < _Auron_> yes.
[20:51:39] < prime_> i know, but everytime someone says  Jonathan Coulton, im thinking, "its spelled coltrane"
[20:51:46] <+Dantes> Long time no see, man :)
[20:51:48] <+Dantes> Prime: O_O
[20:51:55] < prime_> then i realize, oh
[20:51:58] <+Dantes> lol
[20:52:06] <+Dantes> I hope he'll answer soon ^^
[20:52:12] < prime_> they are talking about that one buy with a 1 hit wonder no one will remeber in 20 years
[20:52:17]  * _Auron_ is doing sets of 30
[20:52:21] < chronomex> rick astley?
[20:52:24] <+Dantes> np: Jonathan Coulton - Code Monkey
[20:52:35] < prime_> chronomex: no, coulton
[20:52:38] < chronomex> who?
[20:52:39] <+Dantes> Man, Rick Astley's Never Gonna Give You Up is a good song. But his other music is bad.
[20:52:42] <+krisk> SQUATZ
[20:52:42]  * chronomex snickers
[20:52:49] <+krisk> for da QUADZ
[20:52:57] < _Auron_> I've never really done them before
[20:53:01] < _Auron_> but I'm in an exercise mood
[20:53:05] <+Dantes> Prime: He's had more hits o-o Both Still Alive and Code Monkey, and he's got loads of other great music too
[20:53:14] < _Auron_> and decided to do them since it helps in areas I'd like to improve
[20:53:16] <+Dantes> I don't even know what squats are, exercising is not for me :p
[20:53:23] <+krisk> core strength for the win
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[20:53:30] <+Dantes> Auron: How've you been? :D
[20:53:34] <+krisk> i have a good book about it if yourei nterested
[20:53:37] <+krisk> about SQUATZ
[20:53:39] < _Auron_> Dantes: it's like sitting down in an imaginary chair and standing back up, over and over again
[20:53:52] <+Dantes> I see... 
[20:53:57]  * _Auron_ goes to set 3
[20:54:01] <+Tailsfan> mandelbrot set
[20:54:05] <+Dantes> Yea :D
[20:54:28] <+Dantes> I have all songs from his Thing a Week music sets, and then some others too...
[20:54:54] < _Auron_> damn that's a nice workout
[20:54:59]  * _Auron_ is resting for set 4
[20:55:02] <+Dantes> I really'd like to see his view on songwriting and such, because I hope one day to become as good a songwriter/singer/musician as him. ^^
[20:55:03] <+krisk> now try it with 50kg on your back :P
[20:55:10] <+Dantes> o_O
[20:55:10] < chronomex> Aaaaandy_J?
[20:55:11] < _Auron_> krisk: I've only just started doing them
[20:55:17] <@Andy_J> ?
[20:55:17] <+krisk> I know me too
[20:55:19] <+Dantes> :-)
[20:55:22] <+Dantes> hehj
[20:55:24] <+Dantes> *heh
[20:55:28] <@Andy_J> that highlighted me somehow
[20:55:31] < prime_> can i g-line someone from life?
[20:55:34] <+Dantes> lol Andy
[20:55:34] < _Auron_> we have a 45lb bar though
[20:55:39] <+Tailsfan> math help please
[20:55:43] <+krisk> oh use that
[20:55:45] < _Auron_> so when I'm ready I can use that
[20:55:51] < _Auron_> or do you suggest starting off with that o.O
[20:56:02] <+krisk> id highly recommend starting with the bar
[20:56:02] < chronomex> prime_: takes a bit of effort, but yes
[20:56:05] < _Auron_> hell why not
[20:56:11] <+krisk> try sets of 5-10 reps with it
[20:56:15] < _Auron_> okay
[20:56:23] <+krisk> keep it empty untill you have the form absolutely perfect
[20:56:28] <+krisk> or well decent
[20:56:29] < _Auron_> and I read on how to do squats properly, so I don't hurt my knees
[20:56:34] <+krisk> good good
[20:56:35] <+Dantes> :)
[20:56:40] <+krisk> squatz is for strengthening knees
[20:56:41] < _Auron_> I also read where you SHOULDN'T put the bar
[20:56:48] <+Dantes> Man are there only exercise freaks and math freaks here? :P
[20:56:50] < _Auron_> well knees and calves and lower back and :P
[20:56:53] <+Tailsfan> anyone wanna help me
[20:56:54] <+krisk> whole body
[20:56:55] <@Andy_J> chronomex: try again
[20:56:58] <+krisk> fuck yeah squatz
[20:57:21] <+Tailsfan> with the permutations.
[20:57:24] <+Tailsfan> was I roight
[20:57:26] < chronomex> Andy_J: try what again?
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[20:57:40] < chronomex> ah
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[20:58:36] < _Auron_> okay I just did a set of 15
[20:58:37] < _Auron_> damn
[20:58:42] <+Dantes> :p
[20:58:45] < _Auron_> that's like doing a set of 30 without
[20:58:51] <+krisk> yeah sort of
[20:58:53] < prime_> pushups with your dick?
[20:58:56] <+Dantes> o.o
[20:58:58] < _Auron_> ......
[20:59:02] <+Dantes> Painful, I think
[20:59:03] < _Auron_> prime_: I'm doing squats
[20:59:08] <+krisk> SQUATZ
[20:59:09] <+Tailsfan> wtf
[20:59:11] <+Tailsfan> please
[20:59:19] < prime_> what? do to the bathroom then
[20:59:27] < prime_> ..go to..
[20:59:42] <+krisk> you are doing fullsquatz right?
[20:59:43] <+Dantes> lol krisk is freaking out
[20:59:43] <+Dantes> ^^
[20:59:52] < _Auron_> fullsquatz?
[21:00:01] <+krisk> at my gym i only ever see people do silly halfsquatz
[21:00:06] <+krisk> ass the grass
[21:00:11] <+krisk> is how it should be done
[21:00:15] < _Auron_> oh hell
[21:00:21] < _Auron_> fine I'll try that :X
[21:00:23] <+krisk> go all the way down till your hamstringsg hit your halves
[21:00:29] <+krisk> then drive back up with your hips
[21:00:33] < prime_> you should do highsquats, they are more effective than regular squats
[21:00:38] <+krisk> NO
[21:00:44] < prime_> wut?
[21:00:53] <+Tailsfan> is this math or #gym
[21:00:59] <+krisk> anything but full range of motion puts knees at risk of injury
[21:01:06] < prime_> this is TCPARTA!
[21:01:11] <+Dantes> Tailsfan: Neither.
[21:01:15] <+Dantes> prime: Omg.
[21:01:34] <+krisk> also only fullsquatz target the hamstrings and hipflexors
[21:01:35] < _Auron_> ugh
[21:01:38] <+Dantes> Has anyone here gotten any more mature in the last 2-3 years ?
[21:01:44] < _Auron_> I find full squats hard to do without my knees going past my toes
[21:01:45] <+krisk> which are increadibly important for core strength
[21:01:53] <+krisk> your knees can go past your toes if they have to
[21:01:55] < chronomex> Dantes: I think I may have
[21:02:02] <+krisk> just keep the bart aligned above the center of your feet
[21:02:04] <+krisk> bar*
[21:02:05] < prime_> irc is serious business
[21:02:09] <+Dantes> Well I don't remember seeing you before chronomex.
[21:02:14] < _Auron_> you sure krisk?
[21:02:18] <+krisk> sure
[21:02:31] <+krisk> as long as the knees are pointing in the same direction as your toes
[21:02:33] <+krisk> as in aligned
[21:02:34] < Netham45> I've gotten way more mature
[21:02:41] <+Dantes> I hope so, Netham...
[21:02:47] <+Dantes> I hope so GREATLY.
[21:02:52] <+Dantes> ^^
[21:02:58] <+Dantes> Just kidding ;-)
[21:02:58] < chronomex> Dantes: I was slythe / slimey_li
[21:03:01] < Netham45> :(
[21:03:26] <+Dantes> Chronomix: Still doesn't sound familiar... How long have you been here?
[21:03:38] <+Dantes> Netham: :P
[21:03:57] < chronomex> 3y in earnest, first time was I think in 2004?
[21:04:12] < prime_> !firstspoke chronomex
[21:04:16] < prime_> we need that one
[21:04:19] < chronomex> haha
[21:04:25] < chronomex> grep | head
[21:04:58] <+Dantes> Hmm... I've been here since... Perhaps begin 2004 ... Maybe end of 2003...
[21:05:29] <+Dantes> Maybe later too... Been so long ago.
[21:05:36] < chronomex> kay
[21:05:50] < chronomex> who wants to see a neat graph:
[21:05:51] < chronomex> ?
[21:05:52] <+Dantes> Man... Time has gone by so fast.
[21:05:57] <+Dantes> Show :)
[21:05:59] < chronomex> http://students.washington.edu/f/pixen/tc.png
[21:06:13] < chronomex> ticalc.org userid, unix-time last email confirmation
[21:06:17] <+Dantes> o-o
[21:06:32] <+Tailsfan> k
[21:06:38] <+Dantes> d.
[21:06:40] <+Dantes> *Weird.
[21:06:42] < chronomex> scale is 2001-Sep-11 to now
[21:07:01] <+Dantes> lol
[21:07:20] < chronomex> lol?
[21:07:21] <+Dantes> ... is it a coincidence that that is the date of 9/11 ?
[21:07:24] < chronomex> I think so
[21:07:28] < chronomex> I'll have to ask magnus
[21:07:30] <+Dantes> I hope so...
[21:08:12] < chronomex> ...
[21:08:26] <+Dantes> Would be creepy else :)
[21:08:34] <+Dantes> It's creepy already anyway ^^
[21:08:36] < chronomex> um, sure
[21:08:39] <+Dantes> xD
[21:08:46] <+Tailsfan> so....
[21:08:53] <+Tailsfan> the scale for that image
[21:09:04] < chronomex> yes?
[21:09:16] <+Tailsfan> Server not found
[21:09:17] < chronomex> vertical is in seconds since 1-1-1970
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[21:09:30] <+Dantes> :(
[21:09:32] < chronomex> Tailsfan: works fine for me?
[21:09:54] <+Tailsfan> ISP ZCENSORSHIP
[21:09:56] <+Tailsfan> i doubt it
[21:10:59] < chronomex> I doubt it too
[21:11:24] < _Auron_> wow, slow pushups use your muscles a lot more than just regular ones
[21:11:41] <+krisk> yeah
[21:11:58] <+krisk> can you recieve a pdf file?
[21:12:08] < chronomex> krisk: who?
[21:12:30] < _Auron_> I don't see why not
[21:12:37] < _Auron_> go for it
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[21:13:29] <+krisk> i suppose i could if right clicking on your name worked
[21:14:02] < _Auron_> mm
[21:14:02] <+krisk> there we go
[21:14:02] < _Auron_> nm
[21:14:15] <+krisk> that has the correct description of form for SQUATZ
[21:14:20] < _Auron_> you might not be able to send if you're on a firewall
[21:14:27] < _Auron_> I can always receive files through dcc
[21:14:35] <+krisk> ok..
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[21:14:43] <@efneTI92> [Speng0] so when are we going to ban infolines?
[21:15:29] <+Tailsfan> donno
[21:16:04] < _Auron_> going to go out for a bit
[21:16:06] < _Auron_> bbiab
[21:16:42] <+Dantes> http://studwww.ugent.be/~btant/we_cant_work_our_problems_out.mp3
[21:16:54] <+krisk> ah man rapidsearch is down
[21:16:57] <+krisk> ill put it on my wamp
[21:19:41] <+Dantes> ?
[21:22:20] <+Dantes> winamp
[21:22:21] <+Dantes> :)
[21:22:40] <+Dantes> listened to it yet? if you're going to :P
[21:23:22] <+krisk> no i mean ill put the pdf on wamp for _Auron_
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[21:38:18] <+Dantes> heh i figured you weren't talking about my link ^^;;
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[22:22:45] < habeeb> 'lu
[22:22:55] <+krisk> lu
[22:23:21] < habeeb> hooray for a restored laptop :)
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[22:27:01] <@efneTI92> [Sir_Lewk] Give me a biscuit, I will do science to it
[22:29:59] <+Tyler2> I can't choose
[22:30:06] <+Tyler2> Hamburger Bun Pizza Subs or just plain Pizza?
[22:30:19] <+krisk> i know, goths or metal chicks.. what a choice
[22:30:20] <+krisk> oh
[22:30:36] <+krisk> pizza
[22:30:59] <+Tyler2> What if I had to make hte pizza?
[22:31:14] <+krisk> do you have to make the pizza sub thing
[22:31:15] <+krisk> ?
[22:31:32] <+Tyler2> Well, can't choose between making pizza subs or a pizza
[22:31:43] <+krisk> make the pizza
[22:31:46] < Sir_Lewk> I make pizza
[22:31:59] < Sir_Lewk> it tastes better when you make it anyways
[22:32:18] <+Tyler2> I guess I can just freeze my sub buns then
[22:32:35] <+krisk> i thought you said hamburger buns?
[22:32:47] <+Tyler2> Meh, bread is bread
[22:33:11] <+krisk> well i dont think hamburger buns are fit for it but if theyre properp buns then the choice becomes harder
[22:33:18] <+krisk> then id probably go for the buns things
[22:33:32] <+krisk> hamburger buns just make me angry
[22:33:42] < prime_> you can make little pizza on any flat round bread
[22:33:46] <+krisk> made*
[22:33:56] < prime_> english muffins, hamburger buns
[22:34:08] <+krisk> yeah but selfmade pizza on hamburger buns?
[22:34:11] <+Tyler2> I have actual pizza dough
[22:34:21] <+krisk> fuck yeah pizza dough
[22:34:24] <+krisk> make em nice and fat
[22:34:26] < prime_> hey, if you are hungry and have no money you eat it
[22:34:37] <+krisk> well yeah but then there wouldnt be a choice
[22:34:47] <+krisk> i eat anything anyway
[22:34:50] < habeeb> i think my phone is screwed :(
[22:34:56] < habeeb> stupid at&t..
[22:34:58] <+krisk> but preparing it first is an entirely different matter :P
[22:35:15] <+Tyler2> I was just debating from a crunchy sub like crust and a pizza dough like crust
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[22:39:11] < jeph> I program. I suck at math. I'm going for computer science. I need to pass my intermediate algebra class tomorrow. Is there any apps that might prove more than helpful?
[22:39:31] < Nikky> dunno
[22:39:44] < Nikky> I never really found math applications helpful
[22:39:46] < Nikky> just "solve"
[22:39:49] <+krisk> doyouwantfrieswiththat.exe
[22:40:01] < jeph> Hey, that's only 600 calories, are you sure that's not a virus?
[22:40:53] <+krisk> mind oyu im in my final year of comp sci and i dont even know what intermedeate algebra is
[22:41:04] < jeph> I really should take the class again, but I can't afford it, so I'm just going to have to backtrack and learn this, because I'll never make it through school without knowing it better. But I need to pass tomorrow, isn't there an all purpose solver? or atleast a cheat sheet with formulas in it.
[22:41:08] <+Tyler2> Maybe instead of looking for ways to cheat, perhaps study?
[22:41:36] < jeph> My book is the teachers edition, it has prooved very unhelpful, the answer in red right next to the problem doesn't do it for me.
[22:41:56] <+krisk> cover up the answers and go through it again?
[22:42:00] < jeph> I just got a TI-83+ just to do this, I was rockin it out with my TI-34a...
[22:42:25] < Leofox> I want to connect my PC to my TV, the PC has a DVI-out and the TV has HDMI in
[22:42:38] < Leofox> do I need a DVI to HDMI cable or a HDMI to DVI one
[22:42:43] < Leofox> or would it not matter
[22:42:54] <+krisk> erm just look at the female/male things
[22:43:07] <+Tyler2> They have DVI to HDMI dongles
[22:43:16] < prime_> there are tons of DVI -> hdmi
[22:43:19] < prime_> newer cards come with them
[22:43:24] < prime_> they are just little adapters
[22:43:35] <+Tyler2> Depending on your card you may also get sound with that too :)
[22:43:35] < prime_> and you use a hdmi cable to connect the two
[22:44:18] < Leofox> Tyler2: my TV has a sound in for HDMI
[22:44:29] < Leofox> it actually says DVI-in
[22:44:44] < jeph> ALL: So, we've done the obligatory IRC, "well why don't you..." but really, is there such a app? Where can I get it?
[22:44:47] < Leofox> so i suppose they had my little idea of connecting the pc to the tv in mind
[22:45:11] < prime_> jeph: go to ticalc.org archives
[22:45:19] < prime_> go to your calculator
[22:45:20] < Nikky> there is no "magic" application
[22:45:23] <+krisk> all you need is whatever fits on both ends
[22:45:24] < Nikky> believe me, if there was, I'd use it
[22:45:26] < prime_> and go to math programs
[22:45:39] < prime_> use ctrl+f to find what you need
[22:45:45] <+krisk> dvi cable side owuld be male dvi, hdmi tv side would be whatever your tv needs
[22:45:59] < jeph> I tried that, the most useful thing I found was Bubble Bobble (score!!), but I'll look again
[22:46:02] < Leofox> tv needs male
[22:46:12] < Leofox> there are so many HDMI cables..
[22:46:32] < prime_> here even, http://www.ticalc.org/pub/83plus/basic/math/
[22:46:40] < Leofox> HDMI to DVI 10m, with gold plating or blister or with nothing
[22:46:51] <+krisk> any male dvi<->male hdmi should do
[22:46:56] < Leofox> hdmi to hdmi silver series which apparently means gold plated too
[22:47:05] < Leofox> different sizes
[22:47:17] < Leofox> 1.5m should work
[22:47:23] <+krisk> get the length you need
[22:47:32] <+krisk> with the size you need :P
[22:47:42] <+krisk> gold palted shouldnt matter
[22:47:50] < Leofox> i'll get the cheapest one
[22:47:50] < prime_> 5 dollar foot long
[22:47:59] < jeph> Subway?
[22:48:01] < prime_> ya
[22:48:07] < Leofox> foot long?
[22:48:22] < Leofox> you know, the metric system really rips us off for subway
[22:48:34] <+krisk> really?
[22:48:35] < prime_> haha
[22:48:38] < prime_> i bet
[22:48:43] < Leofox> one foot is 30.48 cm
[22:48:44] < prime_> 10 cm for 5 euro
[22:48:50] < jeph> So, why isn't there a program to do this? Is it that hard to make? If it's not shouldn't I just try to code it? In the process I'm sure I'll learn the underlying algebra involved
[22:48:51] < Leofox> but we get 30cm sandwiches
[22:49:03] < Leofox> so they rip us off for almost half a cm of bread!
[22:49:04] < prime_> jeph: what exactly do you need it to do?
[22:49:16] <+krisk> that makes me angry
[22:49:32] < prime_> yea, every 60th sandwich you buy, you need to steal one
[22:49:36] < jeph> I want to be able to simplify/factor/solve for/graph inequalities, just do basic things, 
[22:49:36] < prime_> to make up for it
[22:49:44] < jeph> "magically"... like I do
[22:49:55] <+krisk> although, isnt it a ripoff anyway since you can make the same sandwich for like half the price yourself?
[22:50:05] < prime_> 83+ can graph inequalities
[22:50:07] < jeph> I just brute force every equation on my calculator, previously a TI34 until it made sense
[22:50:31] < prime_> it sounds like you have no fucking idea what to do
[22:50:41] < prime_> and no program is good enough to solve it all
[22:50:45] < jeph> I just got one off Craig's list, I'm kind of oblivious, the manual is quite concise, if you understand what you are doing to begin with, I checked out youtube
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[22:51:00] <@efneTI92> [Tari] Remember, remember the 5th of November
[22:51:00] < prime_> you will be screwed when you take alg
[22:51:05] < Nikky> jeph: look into the "solve" feature
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[22:51:40] <+krisk> probably shouldve thought of all this more than 1 day before the test
[22:51:48] < jeph> Oh, I did =)
[22:52:03] <+krisk> and acted on it
[22:52:06] < jeph> I was too busy ... by some devine force... passing all my other finals
[22:52:12] <+krisk> ah
[22:52:15] < jeph> my manager quit so I was working 40 hour weeks
[22:52:36] <+krisk> come to holland
[22:52:39] <+krisk> you wont have to study for tests
[22:52:43] < jeph> I'm amazed, I don't know how it happened, I'd like to pass this math class
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[22:53:59] < jeph> I guess I'll go read over my notes again and then have some more specific questions as my broad, all-you-can-cheat program apparently doesn't exist?
[22:54:09] < jeph> someone said they had paid for it and lost it, it came on a cd, and it did everything
[22:55:00] <+krisk> cant you find per-subject programs on ticalc or something for the parts you dont understand yet?
[22:55:33] < prime_> do you know how screwed you will be when you reach calculus
[22:55:41] < prime_> ahem, if you reach it
[22:55:44] <+krisk> or just type up your notes as text into a program and browse through it during the test
[22:55:50] < jeph> prime_, I have no fucking clue what I'm going to do
[22:56:01] <+krisk> one problem at a time
[22:56:02] < prime_> this is pre-algebra?
[22:56:08] < prime_> this test?
[22:56:12] < jeph> my teacher was literally flaming gay, at 8am, i wasn't really buying it, i'd space out, his tests are multiple choice, there is no partial credit for correct math
[22:56:29] < jeph> no, it's intermediate algebra, so i've just been checking all the answers by plugging them into the original equation
[22:56:40] < jeph> and he tries to trick you but I know enough to not fall for it
[22:56:45] < prime_> is that algebra II
[22:56:51] < jeph> I shouldn't pass this class, but, retaking it again isn't going to help
[22:56:52] < jeph> yes
[22:56:54] <+krisk> so youre going to pass just fine?
[22:57:04] < jeph> I never finish in time
[22:57:22] <+krisk> but its multiple choice
[22:57:23] < prime_> well, you need a conics program
[22:57:34] < prime_> probably a vector program
[22:57:45] < prime_> tons of triq programs
[22:57:52] < prime_> **trig
[22:57:52] < jeph> I have ADD too, but I'm medicated, I suck at math though, I only do well with logic, which is rediculous, Drexel gave me a great transfer agreement, and now I'll have to go for business, because math will fucking keep me out of Comp Sci
[22:59:03] < prime_> this may prove of some worth
[22:59:04] < prime_> http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/255/25555.html
[22:59:06] < jeph> I've been programming since I was 8, I'll ace every computer class I take, and it'll be math that screws me. My job will be to make a computer do math for me, not the other way around, which makes this so ironic.
[22:59:33] < Leofox> jeph: you have to understand the math to make a program that can do it for you
[22:59:41] <+krisk> nah just google it
[22:59:54] < Leofox> if you dont like math, maybe computer science isnt your thing
[23:00:00] < prime_> algoritms class is going to kick your ass
[23:00:11] < prime_> they call it a CS class, but its really math
[23:00:23] < Leofox> over here we have two different levels of college\
[23:00:24] < prime_> so is half of the other ones
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[23:00:36] < Leofox> university and higher education
[23:00:39] < jeph> prime_, thanks this looks very promising. I was having some troubles installing apps, and I completely reset the calculator. Let's see how this goes.
[23:00:53] < Leofox> university is bunch of math, the second one is lots of programming
[23:01:15] < Leofox> as in learn how to be a code monkey
[23:01:19] < prime_> jeph: to do anymore good i need to know exactly what things you need to know
[23:01:28] < jeph> The first thing I did was update the firmware, that just shows my computer background =)
[23:01:35] < prime_> like matricies, etc
[23:01:41] <+krisk> and then theres amsterdam college comp sci where you dont learn anything at all
[23:01:48] < jeph> Let's see if I can do that, I'm going to go back to my tests and see which ones I wasn't able to "brute-force"
[23:02:13] < Leofox> krisk: its not like amsterdam university is much better
[23:02:15] < jeph> +krsik, I don't intend to learn anything going to school for comp-sci =) except for how to be a better student
[23:02:26] <+krisk> yeah
[23:02:40] <+krisk> in any acse stop saying you wont pass, youve got a plan now, just do it
[23:02:53] < Leofox> from what ive seen you spend five years trying to figure out the sucky linux program they use
[23:03:14] <+krisk> i spend 2 years not showing up in classes
[23:03:20] < jeph> !
[23:03:28] < Leofox> because what they use is much better for plotting large amounts of points
[23:03:43] < Leofox> compared to real programs
[23:03:59] < jeph> I need to go to a college like that! With lecture halls, so I can skip class and just show up on test days.
[23:04:08] < Leofox> oh, never mind that the input needs to be in their form of XML and you have to use the CLI to make a graph
[23:04:21] <+krisk> mind oyu i have to fix a lot of shit
[23:04:35] <+krisk> but thats mostly from teammembers screwing up my team assignments
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[23:04:40] < jeph> my graph-link cable is BEASTLY, it's the parellel port one, connected to the serial-parallel adapter, connected to a serial->usb adapter I use for my X11 controller, it's nearly a foot long
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[23:04:59] < prime_> go study
[23:05:02] <+krisk> if guns were legal here i assure you teambased assignments wouldnt be part of the classes any more
[23:05:17] < Sir_Lewk> haha
[23:05:18] < jeph> prime_, let me make sure this installs ok, then I'm unplugging my switch
[23:05:24]  * Sir_Lewk hugs guns
[23:05:29] <+krisk> *morning before assignment deadline* "oh im just getting started on my bit" *BLAM*
[23:05:54]  * prime_ hugs guns
[23:06:00] <+krisk> "oh i handed in my own work because i didnt think you felt like doing yours even though i never asked you anything concerning that" *BLAM*
[23:06:27] <+krisk> "oh im quitting the class, hope you can still finish our assignment beforen ext week" *BLAM*
[23:06:28] < Sir_Lewk> I've had that one happen
[23:06:40] < Sir_Lewk> the "handing in my own work"
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[23:07:10] <+krisk> ive only had 2 classes this semester and both got screwed up by teammembers
[23:07:50] < jib> On Monday I had an assignment due at 9am and I received an email at 4:30am from one of my group members saying he couldn't do it
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[23:08:46] <+krisk> as far as im concerned summer vacation has started, im going to do cool stuff, get money, rent a place, get a metal/goth chick and figure out this college mess in august with some things actually worth doing in a proper part of life
[23:10:30] < _Auron_> that was a nice walk
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[23:12:43] < jeph> +krisk, why metal/goth? have you tried concerts/shows?
[23:13:48] <+krisk> appearance wise im a sucker for long dark hair pretty eyes with and a piercing or two. ive fallen seriously in love only once and that was with a metal chick and that was to be expected so i figure i like that
[23:14:06] < jeph> this serial-to-usb is a piece of shit, and it wasn't all that cheap, it crapped out during the app transfer, going to try again
[23:14:27] <+krisk> in highschool i used to go to a hangout with this stuff but i wasnt falling in love yet back then, now i am and nobody i know wants to do cool things
[23:15:16] <+krisk> so im looking at a place in amsterdam i might go to on my own some time
[23:15:19] < jeph> did it end well? do you really want to replay through your only love? if you haven't already dated around to see what you DON'T like, you could be missing out... maybe you really like bi-sexual vampires?
[23:15:21] <+krisk> does that answer your questions?
[23:15:40] < jeph> I suppose
[23:15:50] <+krisk> it got nowhere, she was already taken.
[23:16:10] < jeph> So you never actually dated her?
[23:16:24] <+krisk> we hung out together
[23:16:30] < prime_> krisk: http://www.grafixart.at/?p=851
[23:16:43] <+krisk> her boyfriend isnt very good for her
[23:16:47] <+krisk> or wasnt i dont know
[23:16:54] < jeph> +krisk, all my friends are girls, hanging out with them, and how they treat the people they date, world of difference
[23:17:19] < jeph> secondly, a girl will only complain to you about her boyfriend, very rarely will she tell you good things he does unless she hopes one day you'll top him, or he did really well
[23:17:22] <+krisk> supposedly the only reason shes still with him was because she wouldnt have anyone at all otherwise or something
[23:17:33] <+krisk> she didnt complain about him to me
[23:17:49] < jeph> if a girl stays with an asshole he has money or a huge dick, or she's used to being treated badly =)
[23:17:54] < jeph> or... she's pregnant
[23:18:00] <+krisk> she has issues ok
[23:18:23] <+krisk> all her bfs have been this way
[23:18:28] < jeph> so does this serial converter
[23:18:34] < Sir_Lewk> or he's a jedi
[23:18:36] < jeph> a lot of girls like ass holes
[23:18:40] < Sir_Lewk> and is using mindtrick on her
[23:18:41] < jeph> sir_lewk, how did I miss that
[23:18:58] < Sir_Lewk> dunno, seems obvious :P
[23:19:06] < jeph> once one really hurts them, they'll go the other way, but like, it's a complicated process, girls don't want a nice guy until they're ready to settle down
[23:19:51] <+krisk> in any case i know shes perfect for me and i already liked the type beforehand so..
[23:19:56] < jeph> so just get a nice job, some money in the bank, find a girl, get a pre-nup
[23:20:10] <+krisk> a what
[23:20:12] < jeph> dude, that's ill-advised, unless you lvied with her
[23:20:20] < Sir_Lewk> prenuptial agreement
[23:20:47] <+krisk> oh dont be silly
[23:20:59] < jeph> uh in america you can get an agreement that alters the (which are strictly int he women's favor) terms of the divorce
[23:21:06] <+krisk> i know
[23:21:11] <+krisk> but this has nothing to do with my life
[23:21:17] < jeph> oh
[23:22:06] < jeph> wow
[23:22:09] < jeph> it was a bad usb cable
[23:22:19] < jeph> haha, nice, the overheating usb->serial converter threw me off
[23:22:26] <+krisk> i know perfect is too big a word but over a year of rationalisation keeps arriving at all kinds of conclusions of how ideal she'd be for me
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[23:23:34] < prime_> then steal her for yourself
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[23:23:40] < jeph> +krisk, if she doesn't know your feelings tell her and give her time so she can mull the idea over, other than killing her bf, figure out how your're going to act on it so you don't beat yourself up over it
[23:23:41] <+Tyler2> I forgot the ham for my pizza :(
[23:23:49] <+krisk> and no i didnt think i actually stood a chance untill i got flirted with
[23:23:54] <+krisk> she already knows
[23:23:56] <+Tyler2> Ah well, I guess I'm having a pineapple, peach and cheese pizza
[23:24:02] < jeph> well remind her
[23:24:09] <+krisk> ive done enough of that
[23:24:23] < jeph> dude, when I think about the girls I sleep with, and the fact no drugs or alchohol were involved, it's like "what the fuck were you thinking?"
[23:24:26] <+Tyler2> Women are nothing but problems, unless they come to you and want to date you, forget them
[23:24:34] < jeph> I mean I'm not bad looking, but they were hot =) just be confident
[23:25:02] < jeph> should I send APPs to archive or Memory?
[23:25:04] <+krisk> she knows i like her in a more than friends kind of way, probably not how much, but still
[23:25:11] < jeph> no dude
[23:25:11] < prime_> jeph: you dont have a choice
[23:25:15] < jeph> I don't?
[23:25:22] < prime_> nope
[23:25:26] < prime_> they just go
[23:25:47] < Sir_Lewk> sing "If that's what you're into" to her
[23:25:47] <+Tyler2> Dude, you better either ask her out or forget about it, or you will get the "we're friends statement"
[23:25:48] <+krisk> she knew for a couple of weeks and several more hangoutwiths before she moved to amsterdam and stopped answering calls
[23:25:49] < jeph> Never make assumptions, you have to make it clear, no girl in a mindless, this is easy relationship is going to imagine her friends feelings, she wants to hear you say it
[23:25:53] < Sir_Lewk> chicks dig that
[23:26:06] < jeph> the worst that happens is she says no, and then you'll have closure dude, just do it
[23:26:26] <+krisk> she already said things
[23:26:29] <+Tyler2> Life is too short to be miserable over one girl anyways
[23:26:36] < jeph> Sir_Lewk, that's only if Stu is keen too
[23:26:47] <+krisk> but now she's gone and doesnt even contact what was her only other (girl)friend
[23:26:48] < Sir_Lewk> true enough
[23:26:54] <+krisk> who shes known 6 years
[23:27:33] < _Auron_> bah
[23:27:40] < Sir_Lewk> is her contact information still good?
[23:27:41] < jeph> if she only had one girl friend she obviously has a preference towards guy friends and only needs casual female contact
[23:27:42] < _Auron_> I'm hungry and I also want to sleep
[23:27:51] < Sir_Lewk> like, she didn't move or die?
[23:27:56] <+krisk> i have no reason to believe it isnt
[23:28:09] < jeph> ok it says it's sending and I still have a blinking cursor
[23:28:16] <+krisk> she moved to amsterdam but that doesnt change her phone number nor her ability to call orcontact her friendi n nayway
[23:28:17] < jeph> my ti-graph link program is very old and it has a send-to option
[23:28:33] <+krisk> so seriously, best case scenario right now is that shes actually still alive somewhere and not as miserable as when i last saw her , worst case scenario... not going to think of that
[23:28:46] < chronomex> jeph: tigl really?
[23:28:49] < chronomex> I <3 that
[23:28:56] < chronomex> at least compared to TiLP and TI-Connect
[23:29:13] <+krisk> she didnt have guy friend either
[23:29:38] <+krisk> when i said her boyfriend wasnt good for her i didnt mean like ooh hes a bit mean i meant shes not allowed to even be called by other guys
[23:29:58] < jeph> if it's not broken, don't recode it, but it only addresses up to COM4, so it's a pain in the ass, but it works
[23:30:18] < chronomex> doesn't do USB either, I expect :)
[23:30:19] < chronomex> er
[23:30:24] < chronomex> directlink and silverlink
[23:30:24] < jeph> [i have to keep setting the USB converters COM port manually]
[23:30:30] < chronomex> but serial usb converter is ok
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[23:31:37] <+krisk> things just shouldve gone differently
[23:31:41] <+krisk> but theres nothing i can do now
[23:31:46] <+krisk> well there is but nothing normal
[23:32:05] < t4ng> hey guys
[23:32:08] < jeph> prime_, this program is awesome, I better sit in the middle row, haha
[23:32:34] < t4ng> i got a ti83+, when i try to load a program it gives me ERR:ARCHIVED, i've cleared archive and all. but still duno whats wrong
[23:32:40] <+krisk> s hence im looking for someone else to be hopeless about
[23:32:48] < t4ng> tried files that end in .8xk, .83p
[23:32:49] <+Tari> t4ng, is the program archived?
[23:33:07] < chronomex> jeph: what program?
[23:33:11] < t4ng> i'm not sure what that means? i sent it to the calc though
[23:33:15] <+krisk> and with my preferences thats going to be someone similar in looks/style
[23:33:42] < jeph> how do you enter an = sign, without hitting enter, like I want to type it in?
[23:33:48] <+Tari> go the memory management and find the program ([2nd],[+],[2],[1])
[23:33:59] <+Tari> if it has an asterisk (*) next to it, it's archived
[23:34:07] <+krisk> not that i dont still think about her every day
[23:34:58] < t4ng> yep its archived
[23:35:06] <+Tari> hit enter on it to unarchive it
[23:35:27] < t4ng> ahhh 
[23:35:29] < t4ng> there it goes
[23:35:31] < t4ng> thanks a bunch!
[23:35:56] <+Tari> np
[23:36:04] < jeph> Ok, I'm challenged, I don't know how to put an equal sign in on the TI-83, it's asking me to input it
[23:37:09] <+Tari> [2nd],[MATH]
[23:37:13] <+krisk> oh well
[23:37:31] < jeph> ok, I don't feel so stupid =)
[23:38:55] < jeph> ok, so I'm using this program, now, I'm entering the variables as they are written in the question, however, i'm sure the program is probably reading the values of those real variables?
[23:39:11] < jeph> there are dummy variables I'm supposed to use for the variable I'm solving for, correct?
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[23:39:51] <+krisk> and i suppose i just said all that for no use at all? :P
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[23:46:14] < jeph> this program keeps crashing my calculator I think
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[23:46:23] < jeph> it turns itself off, then I turn it back on and it says RAM cleared
[23:46:26] <+krisk> _Auron_ you got my pdf?
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[23:48:55] <+Tari> ohai TheStorm 
[23:49:07] <+TheStorm> hi
[23:49:58] < jeph> !! I got it to work, it gave the answer as a decimal but it worked!
[23:50:04] <+Speler> Hi peep's
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[23:56:08] <+krisk> hey speler
[23:56:30] <+Speler> Hey
[23:56:30] <+Speler> Sup?
[23:57:03] <+krisk> thinking about metal chick again lately when i shouldnt be
[23:58:22] < prime_> god just have sex with her already
[23:58:39] <+krisk> you havent been reading what ive been saying have you
[23:58:47] < prime_> i read some of it
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