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[00:30:50] < Spengo\__> HIIYAAAAAA
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[00:31:35] < Spengo\__> I has challah bread
[00:31:59] < Spengo\__> greetings earth creature
[00:32:10] < BungaDung> good afternoon.
[00:32:12] < Spengo\__> do you have a question for the mighty calculator sages?
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[00:32:17] < BungaDung> indeed.
[00:32:27] < BungaDung> TI-89 or TI-89 titanium?
[00:32:36] < Spengo\__> I have an 89 titanium
[00:32:44] < chronomex> I have one of each
[00:32:47] < Spengo\__> glk has much data in MATH
[00:32:48] < BungaDung> I lost my 83+, and I'm trying to decide what to buy
[00:32:56] < chronomex> get a slide rule
[00:33:00] < chronomex> that's what I have
[00:33:04] < chronomex> permitted on every test
[00:33:08] < Spengo\__> well 89 is significantly thinner and less ugly
[00:33:10] < chronomex> looks badass in your back pocket
[00:33:14] < chronomex> just don't sit down
[00:33:20] < Spengo\__> but the 89 titanium has more flash memory and a USB drive
[00:33:32] < Spengo\__> USB port
[00:33:33] < BungaDung> I rather dislike the new form-factor
[00:33:34] <+tifreak> usb port* :P
[00:33:35] < chronomex> not the drive, sir
[00:33:39] < chronomex> BungaDung: everyone does
[00:33:41] < Spengo\__> yes
[00:33:48] < Spengo\__> BungaDung, yeah
[00:33:50] < Spengo\__> it's fatg
[00:33:51] < Spengo\__> fat*
[00:34:05] < chronomex> could be "fag*"
[00:34:11] < Spengo\__> it is also fag
[00:34:14] < chronomex> but then I'd !k homophobe
[00:34:20] < BungaDung> will I miss the extra space if I start loading programs and so on?
[00:34:28] < chronomex> BungaDung: ?
[00:34:35] < Spengo\__> regular 89 has less flash memory
[00:34:42] < chronomex> ah
[00:34:44] < Damakaru> Uh-oh, someone better get ready the cricket repellent.
[00:34:47] < chronomex> um, I've never had a problem
[00:34:50] < chronomex> Damakaru: ?
[00:34:53] < Spengo\__> I dunno, I've only had the titanium
[00:35:09]  * Damakaru points at Cricket_B.
[00:35:14] < BungaDung> hrm. It looks like the Titanium goes for about $30 more on ebay
[00:35:19] < chronomex> I got by for years being a hardcore basic programmer with the regular 89
[00:35:33] < Spengo\__> heh
[00:35:38] < chronomex> Damakaru: who are you anyway?
[00:35:40] < Damakaru> I'm still trying to learn how to type on mine.'
[00:35:41] < chronomex> new or old?
[00:35:54] < Damakaru> Old.
[00:36:03] < chronomex> old 89s have a better keyboard for typing
[00:36:05] < chronomex> by FAR
[00:36:32] < BungaDung> hmm.
[00:36:46] < BungaDung> so basically the one thing the titanium has is memory.
[00:36:46] < Damakaru> I should make a touch-typing tutor.
[00:37:00] < chronomex> by that time you'd be done :)
[00:37:00] < Damakaru> BungaDung:  And USB.
[00:37:07] < BungaDung> yeah.
[00:37:23] < Spengo\__> pretty much
[00:37:29] < chronomex> Damakaru: but I was actually asking if you were someone I already know with a new name, or someone new
[00:37:36] < BungaDung> I like the 83's QWERTY program, lets you turn the calculator on its side and type
[00:37:43] < chronomex> sounds neat
[00:37:56] < BungaDung> somewhat useless, but kinda fun
[00:37:56] < Spengo\__> I learned the xyztab keyboard
[00:38:01] < Damakaru> Someone you know with a new name.
[00:38:06] < chronomex> okay
[00:38:09] < chronomex> randomist again?
[00:38:12] < Damakaru> Yes.
[00:38:15] < Spengo\__> oho
[00:38:18] < chronomex> shit man, stop it
[00:38:37] < chronomex> but Damakaru is a better name than Randomist
[00:38:40] < Damakaru> 'Insanity' keeps highliting me in the wrong part.\
[00:38:44] < chronomex> lol ok
[00:39:12] < BungaDung> hmm. The 89s have a C compiler, right?
[00:39:20] < Damakaru> * when All 68ks do.
[00:39:21] < chronomex> yes
[00:39:21] < Damakaru> TIGCC.
[00:39:23] < chronomex> TIGCC
[00:39:25] < chronomex> .
[00:39:27] < Spengo\__> yeah
[00:39:27] < Spengo\__> tigcc
[00:39:41] < Damakaru> ** -when
[00:39:42] < Spengo\__> Damakaru, I dunno though, it's a little weeaboo-sounding
[00:39:59] < BungaDung> aha, cool. Might get me to actually learn it.
[00:40:07] < Spengo\__> everyone should learn C
[00:40:32] < BungaDung> the only language I really know is Actionscript
[00:40:39] < BungaDung> AS3.
[00:40:45] < BungaDung> which I know quite well
[00:40:49] < Spengo\__> I do not have a response to that
[00:41:00] < BungaDung> it's pretty C-like
[00:41:03] < BungaDung> ish.
[00:41:20] < BungaDung> but rather hard to unlearn
[00:41:26] < Spengo\__> unlearn?
[00:41:46] < BungaDung> just cuz the syntax looks so similar there's pitfalls and things
[00:42:05] < Spengo\__> I dunno how you'd do that, but never unlearn a language, you may someday need it to find 'sploits
[00:42:44] < BungaDung> well, I don't really mean unlearn, just stopping myself slipping into AS3 code
[00:43:15] < Spengo\__> o
[00:43:34] < BungaDung> but I like playing with calculators, so once I get an 89 I'll have some incentive to play with C
[00:43:53] < BungaDung> I tried to learn TI83 assembly and totally failed.
[00:43:53] < Spengo\__> ok
[00:43:58] < Spengo\__> z80
[00:44:04] < BungaDung> right.
[00:44:14] < Spengo\__> it isn't too bad once you get the hang of it
[00:44:26] < Damakaru> I tried to learn z80 ASM, and I simply got lazy.
[00:44:29] < Spengo\__> z80 is only 8-bit and has a very simple instruction set
[00:44:43] < Damakaru> Sad thing is, I had almost finished a nice program, too.
[00:44:45] < Spengo\__> too simple actually.. heh
[00:44:58] < BungaDung> yeah, I just don't know any assembler at all so diving right in was a bit intimidating
[00:45:31] < Spengo\__> well it does make some things tricky, it does not even have divide
[00:45:49] < Damakaru> I dove right in, and then got lazy while trying to get my program to read stuff out of flash.
[00:46:08] < chronomex> my first (and so far last) 68k asm program got mentioned in a Wired blog :)
[00:46:46] < Damakaru> Pics or it didn't happen.  :P
[00:46:58] < BungaDung> is there any particular reason there's no C compiler for the 83?
[00:47:03] < Spengo\__> yes
[00:47:09] < Spengo\__> z80 has a shitty instruction set
[00:47:21] < Damakaru> There's SDCC.  But compiling programs for z80s -- yeah, sucks.
[00:47:29] < Damakaru> Or, rather, the processor sucks for it.
[00:47:35] < Spengo\__> there is no way to make a C compiler that is in any way efficient
[00:47:46] < Spengo\__> the assembler it produces would look terrible
[00:47:54] < chronomex> z80 is hard to compile for
[00:48:04] < BungaDung> I have seen half-built programs that translate sort of BASIC syntax into assembly
[00:48:13] < BungaDung> but none of them really worked.
[00:48:15] < Damakaru> How clean is 68k compiler?
[00:48:18] < Spengo\__> yeah an imagine how well those work :)
[00:48:33] < Spengo\__> 68k is pretty good
[00:48:37] < chronomex> Damakaru: quite good
[00:48:44] < BungaDung> I did get a little controllable sprite zipping around the screen which was fun.
[00:48:45] < chronomex> it's even sometimes human-readable
[00:48:56] < Spengo\__> still
[00:49:15]  * Spengo\__ slaps TI around a bit with a large trout for using 20 year old hardware on new products
[00:49:36] < Spengo\__> seriously... why not ARM or MIPS :P
[00:49:37] < Damakaru> But the Nspire uses ARM.
[00:49:48] < Spengo\__> yeah but Nspire sucks
[00:50:16] < Damakaru> I thought BrandonW already cracked that ho'. :P
[00:50:30] < Spengo\__> I still haven't seen that dude anywhere
[00:50:37] < Spengo\__> he has disappeared from the interbutts
[00:50:52] < Damakaru> He has just disappeared from TCPA.
[00:51:09] < Damakaru> He is still helping around UTI
[00:51:22] < Spengo\__> oh I didn't see him on detached solutions
[00:51:26] < Spengo\__> didn't think to look for him there
[00:51:28] < Spengo\__> since he hates UTI
[00:51:29] < Spengo\__> lol
[00:51:46] < chronomex> Spengo\__: it's cheap
[00:51:56] < Spengo\__> cheap?
[00:52:29] < Spengo\__> woo... I balanced a .22lr on the little clippy thing that holds my laptop screen shut
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[00:52:42] < Damakaru> Yeah, 'cause "you can get a fistful of z80s for a dollar" or something.
[00:52:54] < Spengo\__> heh, more like a bagful
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[00:53:32] < Damakaru> And, maybe that many m68ks for, like, five or ten.
[00:53:35] < Spengo\__> I still think the profit margin on handheld calculators must be enormous
[00:53:52] < millinao> http://img.4chan.org/b/res/66854427.html
[00:53:57] < millinao> this thread is so awesome
[00:54:06] < Spengo\__> /b/ is never awesome
[00:54:19] < millinao> :(
[00:54:57] < Spengo\__> I don't see any new ones there
[00:55:27] < millinao> most of these pictures are new to me
[00:57:42] < Spengo\__> bbiab
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[01:05:33] < Damakaru> This makes three people who've suggested I should have stayed with Linux (or switch back now).
[01:06:33] < Damakaru> Two of them, to right to my face.
[01:07:23] < Damakaru> And they've all Windows users.  :P
[01:07:26] < Damakaru> * they're
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[01:28:46] < moko|586> Damakaru: That's interesting, why?
[01:29:54]  * Damakaru shrugs.
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[01:30:01] <@efneTI92> [Spengo] En Taro Adun, Executor
[01:30:17] < Damakaru> I never said it was.
[01:30:25] < Spengo> you did so
[01:30:31] < Spengo> I wuz there!!!1
[01:31:08] < Damakaru> Maybe my brain snuck a word in there somewhere.
[01:31:13] < Spengo> HA
[01:31:14] < Spengo> I knew it
[01:31:23] < Spengo> it was all a clever illusion
[01:31:40] < Spengo> I am wise to your nefarious ways
[01:31:41] < Damakaru> ...But I still don't see it.  Must be invisible.  :P
[01:32:00] < Spengo> my god, an invisible illusion!
[01:32:14] < Spengo> this dastardly paradoxial plan will never succeed
[01:32:25]  * Damakaru muhahas.
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[01:32:52] < Spengo> TORTILLA CHIPS
[01:33:34] < Damakaru> Get the ludicrously extra-hot, hot, hot hot sauce!
[01:33:43] < Spengo> I always do
[01:34:03] < Spengo> I should figure out how to use gmail as an open relay spam server
[01:34:11] < Spengo> and send some silly spam
[01:34:47] < Spengo> maybe attempting to get more people to participate in operation lioncash
[01:35:29] < Damakaru> Or a Motivate! that says, "You are having SPAM for dinner tonight."
[01:35:38] < Spengo> ya
[01:35:43] < Spengo> attach that as an image
[01:36:18] < Spengo> tacos ಠ_ಠ
[01:36:27] < Spengo> I am having them for dinner
[01:36:42] < Damakaru> My IRC client made you wear box glasses with hexadecimal digits.
[01:37:00] < Spengo> your IRC client has fail font then
[01:37:09] < Spengo> copy and paste into something else
[01:37:10] < Damakaru> It looks like you're watching a hacker movie.  :P
[01:37:19] < Spengo> you fool
[01:37:29] < Spengo> that just means you do not have that character
[01:37:35] < Spengo> the hex boxes
[01:37:47] < Damakaru> I know that~
[01:37:54] < Spengo> now paste it into your internet browser or a word document or something
[01:39:04] < Damakaru> Oh, I see.
[01:39:17] < Damakaru> UTF-8 has everything.
[01:39:24] < Spengo> http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/388/68795124bm4.jpg liek dis
[01:40:05] < Spengo> now onwards to cod4, I have many headshots yet to get
[01:43:57] < Damakaru> Now if only this worked with Flash... http://youtube.com/watch?v=2JJd3wnI-VE&feature=related
[01:45:16] < chronomex> jesus h christ on rollerskates, this man is a genius:  http://qdb.us/35480
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[02:13:02] < hieu> is there a way i can store a pdf in my ti-89 and read it from there?
[02:13:40] < prime38> no
[02:13:55] < prime38> not as a pdf at least
[02:14:14] < Nikky> no way in hell
[02:14:21] < hieu> well convert a pdf into some other format
[02:14:24] < hieu> and read it on my calc
[02:15:13] < Nikky> possibly
[02:15:25] < Nikky> if it was text only you can copy/paste into a notefolio
[02:15:33] < Nikky> if it has tables and graphics... not so much
[02:16:35] < hieu> TI has this program called TI Reader
[02:16:46] < hieu> im trying to see if i can convert pdf but not sure if i can
[02:17:21] < Nikky> I doubt it can
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[02:18:53] < hieu> like it could read opf file, so is there a way to convert pdf to opf..
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[02:24:16] < Cricket_B> Finally got my sisters off The Sims
[02:24:40] < Cricket_B> ...BungaDung?
[02:24:45] < Cricket_B> What did I miss?
[02:24:53]  * Cricket_B shrugs
[02:25:03] < BungaDung> nothing much.
[02:25:09] < Cricket_B> Well, I made a hardware device for the calc...
[02:25:09] < BungaDung> nothing at _all_, I should say.
[02:25:16] < Cricket_B> All it it is two LEDs
[02:25:23] < BungaDung> hey, that's cool.
[02:25:31] < BungaDung> do they do anything in particular?
[02:25:37] < Cricket_B> Plus 2 1k resistors...
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[02:25:49] < Cricket_B> Plus an adapter from Radio Shack...
[02:25:59] < Cricket_B> Plus an old pair of speakers...
[02:26:13] < Cricket_B> Plus the kitchen sink (I wish...)
[02:26:32] < Cricket_B> Well, Wait, I need all the devices with me!
[02:26:37] < Cricket_B> Let me get them...
[02:27:27] < hieu> what graphic format can i upload into ti-89 and view it?
[02:27:49] < tifreak36> .89i?
[02:27:53] < Cricket_B> I forgot the speaker cord and adapter in the car...
[02:28:06] < Cricket_B> I'll get them, then ask the question I have...
[02:28:17] < hieu> no like i try to upload .jpg and it say not compatible
[02:28:31] < BungaDung> well I probably won't be any help, but someone else might be. 
[02:29:21] < Cricket_B> hieu, the TI calcs use their own file formats.
[02:29:48] < Cricket_B> You can't load JPEG on any TI calc
[02:30:05] < prime38> hieu: there are image converters on ticalc.org
[02:30:19] < Cricket_B> You need to convert it to a monocrome BMP first, then use ScreenCapture to send it to the calc.
[02:31:13] < Cricket_B> OK, so my custom-built hardware is made on the GeoSafari Digital Recording Lab breadbord-like device.
[02:31:26] < Cricket_B> It uses the two 1k resistors
[02:31:32] < Cricket_B> and both the LEDs
[02:31:37] < hieu> any software u recommend
[02:31:51] < Cricket_B> The speaker cord is spliced, and connects to the resistors and LEDs
[02:32:08] < tifreak36> hieu, is it color, or black and white image you want to load?
[02:32:15] < Cricket_B> hieu, Try Microsoft Paint
[02:32:24] < Cricket_B> (continuing on hardware)
[02:32:49] < Cricket_B> The adapter converts a male stereo jack to a male mini stereo jack
[02:33:08] < hieu> blackwhite
[02:33:11] < Cricket_B> My preliminary driver is built in TI-BASIC with Omnicalc.
[02:33:12] < tifreak36> ok
[02:33:23] < hieu> i want to scan some pages in book and load into calc so i can look during a test
[02:33:33] < Cricket_B> At the time, it can only turn off one LED at a time...
[02:33:34] < tifreak36> umm...
[02:33:52] < Cricket_B> hieu, better type them in yourself...
[02:34:02] < tifreak36> you could only load a certain size image for starters... and we don't condone cheating on tests...
[02:34:10] < hieu> i'ts like a lot of math symbols
[02:34:32] < Cricket_B> Use the TI equivilents.
[02:34:34] < glk> Type in text files
[02:34:41] < Cricket_B> Yes
[02:35:06] < BungaDung> it's probably more work getting it into a format that's readable than just memorizing it
[02:35:17] < hieu> i would think having an image would be better, but dont know if it's a good idea
[02:35:30] < tifreak36> then create and save the images
[02:35:36] < Cricket_B> Well, anyway, for my hardware, I need help with the driver...
[02:35:51] < Cricket_B> Can someone help me on my read source code?
[02:35:54] < glk> Text Editor is available APP
[02:35:59] < Cricket_B> (ASM, here)
[02:36:53] < Cricket_B> Let me get the file made...(it's only containing the meat)
[02:38:55] < Cricket_B> http://72.129.89.238:1248/ASMcode.txt is the meat of the code (no header).
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[02:39:07] < boxknife> Has anyone ever removed the screen of a TI-86?
[02:39:09] < Cricket_B> It is supposed to exit when you press the CLEAR button
[02:39:34] < Barrett> http://calcg.org/indout/
[02:39:38] < Nikky> Cricket_B: rafb.net/paste
[02:39:42] < Barrett> 1/3 as many pages as the last time
[02:39:44] < Cricket_B> However, all it's doing is displaying one character then quitting
[02:39:49] < boxknife> I'm working on the backlight project thing. I've got the circuit with the plexiglass and the LEDs installed already, I just need to install it
[02:39:59] < Barrett> (now rating is done through a form, so it doesn't have a page for each rating for each file)
[02:41:20] < Cricket_B> Nikky, it's faster for me to type it into notepad and save (my webhost is the default dir) than to load IE, load that website, get it to make a new file, type it in there, submit, and get the path.
[02:42:10] < Cricket_B> Anyway, I hotkeyed a button to type in http://72.129.89.238:1248/
[02:43:02] < Barrett> I wonder if magnus edits the database to increase the ratings on his files
[02:43:14] < Cricket_B> LOL if so
[02:43:37] < Barrett> if not, that's one more difference to add to the many differences between ticalc.org and calcg.org
[02:43:50] < Cricket_B> ...?
[02:44:34] < Nikky> calcg.org kicks the crap out of ticalc.org
[02:44:34] < prime38> what other differences are you getting at?
[02:44:54] < Barrett> by the way, I was just kidding
[02:44:57] < Barrett> I would never cheat like that
[02:45:06] < Cricket_B> calcg.org is so small...
[02:45:14] < Barrett> it has a forum
[02:45:31] < Cricket_B> I was meaning the archives...
[02:45:35] < Nikky> dunno, 2500 visitors a day in may is pretty good
[02:45:36] < Barrett> yes
[02:45:41] < Barrett> it has a forum
[02:45:44] < Nikky> quality over quantity :)
[02:46:01] < Cricket_B> ticalc.org has quantity AND quality
[02:46:06] < Nikky> um, no
[02:46:07] < Nikky> they
[02:46:14] < Nikky> that's not possible
[02:46:28] < Barrett> the average quality of files on ticalc.org is around 2 on a scale of 1 to 10
[02:46:46] < Cricket_B> Not in the 83/84
[02:46:49] < hieu> how do u open a PIC file in the TI? running it from command line by typing its name say invalid expression
[02:46:55] < Barrett> Cricket_B: in those sections it's closer to 0
[02:47:15] < Cricket_B> So it's even better....
[02:47:17] < Barrett> even though the scale starts at 1
[02:47:23] < Barrett> no.  10 is better than 1
[02:47:24] < tifreak36> hieu: right click, select open with, and then select TI Screen Capture...
[02:47:42] < hieu> yea then in there i choose send to device
[02:47:43] < prime38> i believe its "display <image>" on 89 when programming
[02:47:45] < Cricket_B> Barrett, you could have sais that...
[02:47:51] < hieu> and now it's on my device, but how do i view it on my ti calculator
[02:47:56] < tifreak36> ah, that...
[02:48:07] < Barrett> please list to me all of the scales that you know of that consist of the numbers 1 through 10 in which 1 is the best
[02:48:23] < Cricket_B> I think it's something like RecallPic
[02:48:23] < Barrett> and please keep in mind that RANK is not a scale
[02:48:52] < prime38> yea i dont know
[02:49:15] < Cricket_B> Barrett, think of the pH scale, for the concentration of hydrogen ions. It's an inverse logramatic scale...
[02:49:52] < Nikky> Now, was he saying anything that would imply a pH-like scale?
[02:50:25] < prime38> also, like the number of times Nikky speaks, the less the better
[02:50:38] < Nikky> Thanks for the input. :)
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[02:51:37] < Cricket_B> Anyone going to help me with the ASM?
[02:51:47] < Nikky> no
[02:51:54] < Damakaru> Ditto.
[02:52:02] < prime38> .orig your-mom
[02:52:12] < prime38> dont we all :)
[02:52:38] < Nikky> ...
[02:52:41] < Nikky> Nerd.
[02:52:54] < Cricket_B> Nikky, take off that dress...
[02:53:05] < Nikky> ?
[02:53:07] < Nikky> wtf
[02:53:34] < Damakaru> I think Nikky charges for those services.
[02:53:43] < prime38> hahahahah
[02:53:44] < Nikky> Pervs
[02:54:07] < Cricket_B> Nikky, don't ping me either
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[02:54:38] < chronomex> !k cricket_b do away
[02:54:40] -!- Cricket_B was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [chronomex: do away]
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[02:54:54] < Cricket_B> Nikky, stop pinging me...
[02:54:58] < Nikky> You do realize about everyone will ping you now
[02:55:11] < prime38> Nikky and chronomex, stop
[02:55:13] < glk> Save a image as PIC named aaa.  Use command RclPic aaa
[02:55:23] < tifreak36> lulz
[02:55:24] < prime38> glk, nice
[02:55:29] < Nikky> prime38: Stop what?
[02:55:33] < prime38> pinging him
[02:55:43] < Nikky> I'm not pinging him...
[02:55:50] < Nikky> I pinged him once, like a week ago
[02:56:08] < prime38> i believe him
[02:56:24] < Nikky> That's your opinion. :)
[02:56:31] < Damakaru> I don't; he tries to get people into trouble sometimes.
[02:56:31] < Cricket_B> There, Nikky
[02:56:43] < Nikky> ?
[02:56:52] < prime38> Damakaru: nikky does or Cricket_B does?
[02:56:58] < Damakaru> Cricket_B.
[02:57:14] < chronomex> !k cricket_b go away
[02:57:15] -!- Cricket_B was kicked from #tcpa by efneTI86 [chronomex: go away]
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[02:57:28] < chronomex> sorry I misspelled it the first time due to lag
[02:57:29] < glk> Download the old TI-89 manual as it is better than the TI-89T manual
[02:57:33] < Nikky> I think he's pinging me once a second. :)
[02:57:47] < Cricket_B> Yes...
[02:57:55] < Damakaru> glk:  Got a link to that?
[02:58:03] < Cricket_B> 22sec lag...
[02:58:12] < glk> Hold
[02:58:28] < Nikky> Cricket_B: Well, the server is set up to ignore repeated requests.
[02:58:40] < Nikky> I hope network security doesn't notice your little stunt. :)
[02:58:42] < Damakaru> I thought +G stops that.
[02:58:46] < Damakaru> Or, I think it is +G.
[02:59:05] < Netham45> +G does stop all incoming CTCPs PRIVMSGS and NOTICES
[02:59:10] < tifreak36> http://education.ti.com/educationportal/downloadcenter/SoftwareList.do?website=US&tabId=2&paneId=17#27
[02:59:24] < tifreak36> link to the guide books
[02:59:29] < glk> http://education.ti.com/guidebooks/graphing/8992p/8992bookeng.pdf   old manual
[02:59:58] < chronomex> Cricket_B: yeah, I got mad lag
[02:59:59] < glk> My url has much TI-89 data in MATH http://grahamkendall.net/
[03:00:14] < glk> Start with TI-89 lessons
[03:00:21] < Cricket_B> Nikky, Dos pinging now
[03:00:24] < Barrett> this makes me angry.  I don't even have a catch-all entry in virtusertable but i get e-mails for everything
[03:00:34] < Nikky> Cricket_B: What are you doing?
[03:00:50] < Cricket_B> Pinging Via DOS
[03:01:07] < chronomex> ONOES
[03:01:09] < Nikky> What is that supposed to solve?
[03:02:03] < chronomex> nothing
[03:02:33] < tifreak36> solves our thought on how long of a ban should be in place?
[03:02:51] < Cricket_B> I exited Ping (forgot the -t)
[03:02:55] < Nikky> No, let him do this.
[03:03:00] < Nikky> Is that all you got?
[03:03:15] < Cricket_B> Read all my /notices
[03:03:31] < Cricket_B> Wait, did you get any of them?
[03:03:36] < Nikky> Get any what?
[03:03:53] < prime38> you would have been kicked if you noticed us a bunch
[03:04:09] < prime38> not by me, but others take offense
[03:04:20] < Cricket_B> There we go
[03:04:23] < Nikky> You don't seem to realize I'm on a federally funded server that is watched pretty closely by state agents.
[03:04:36] < Nikky> So... go ahead and have fun ping flooding it
[03:04:43] < Cricket_B> I'm not pinging
[03:05:33] < Cricket_B> Nikky, you know you started this...
[03:05:38] < chronomex> fing plooding?
[03:05:44] < Nikky> I have no idea what I did.
[03:05:54] < Nikky> I pinged him once!
[03:06:00] < chronomex> ONOES
[03:06:03] <@Andy_J> Nikky: Move to Texas so it'd be illegal to ping it, let alone flood it.
[03:06:08] < Cricket_B> 20 times...
[03:06:53] < Cricket_B> Andy_J
[03:06:59] <@Andy_J> Cricket_B: Fuck off.
[03:07:04] <@Andy_J> Or I'll make you.
[03:07:27] < Damakaru> Didn't know Andy_J was into such things.
[03:07:40] <@Andy_J> You too, Randomist. Pick a nick and stick with it.
[03:07:40] < Cricket_B> What is the whole channel topic?
[03:07:58] <@Andy_J> in fact
[03:08:02] < Damakaru> This should be uncommon enough that other words won't trigger it.
[03:08:13] <@Andy_J> meh
[03:08:16] <@Andy_J> I'm too lazy to do the rst
[03:08:38] < Cricket_B> seen BrandonW
[03:08:40] <@efneTI86> BrandonW was last on IRC channel #tcpa 24 days, 21 hours, 21 minutes ago.
[03:08:48] < tifreak36> <.<
[03:08:57] < Damakaru> I guess he is "gone" gone for the next few months
[03:09:21] < Cricket_B> None of you are really helpful...
[03:09:30] < Nikky> What do you want help with?
[03:09:31] < Damakaru> You're not worthy.
[03:09:34] <@Andy_J> Maybe if you wouldn't be so fucking annoying we'd be helpful.
[03:09:35] < Cricket_B> I'm going to see about e-mailing BrandonW
[03:09:37] < Nikky> Andy_J knows a *ton* about ASM
[03:09:40] < Cricket_B> Nikky, the ASM
[03:09:44] <@Andy_J> Nikky: Fuck you.
[03:09:45] < Nikky> He's making Hookman, after all. :)
[03:10:03] <+TimMc> heh
[03:10:15] <+TimMc> i write 68k asm but dunno what instructions are available for the 89ti :/
[03:10:21] < Cricket_B> He better be (I need a good hook manager)
[03:10:31] <@Andy_J> It'll get done when it gets done.
[03:10:44] <@Andy_J> And at this rate I will find a way to specifically exclude it from running on your calculator.
[03:10:56] < tifreak36> lol
[03:10:58] < Cricket_B> You haven't my ID
[03:11:02] < Damakaru> Or invalidate his certificate.
[03:11:10] <@Andy_J> I'll find a way.
[03:11:22] <+TimMc> main learnin priorities for asm68k: print to screen, interpret link port data
[03:11:26] < prime38> good thing its open source
[03:11:39] < Cricket_B> Andy_J, disabeling my calculator can cause you to get in trouble with law enforcement
[03:11:45] <@Andy_J> Doesn't mean that everyone is allowed to use it.
[03:11:56] <@Andy_J> I never said that.
[03:11:59] < Damakaru> Would it be easier for someone to make a MSD driver for the 89T then it was for the 84?
[03:12:00] <@Andy_J> Randomist suggested it.
[03:12:01] <@Andy_J> In fact
[03:12:09] -!- mode/#tcpa [+b *!*Isarot@74.196.216.*] by Andy_J
[03:12:09] -!- Damakaru was kicked from #tcpa by Andy_J [Your fault I got blamed for that.]
[03:12:25]  * DarkAuron isn't entirely sure what's going on in here.
[03:12:32] < Nikky> go away then
[03:12:35]  * prime38 neither
[03:12:36] < tifreak36> not sure if you want to know either... :P
[03:12:38] < DarkAuron> I think I might.
[03:12:42] < Cricket_B> Damakaru = Randomist
[03:12:50]  * DarkAuron goes back to learning the windows API
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[03:13:18] < prime38> ok, paper on mayan's...go!
[03:14:56] -!- Andy_J changed the topic of #tcpa to: Welcome to #TCPA | http://tcpa.calcg.org/ | Damakaru == Randomist. If he uses anything else, he's banned.
[03:15:12] -!- mode/#tcpa [-b *!*Isarot@74.196.216.*] by Andy_J
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[03:15:57] < Cricket_B> Read the topic
[03:16:03] <@Andy_J> I already told him.
[03:16:12] < Cricket_B> OK
[03:16:37] < tifreak36> lame.. :/ the topic is the first thing you see when joining a channel... <.<
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[03:17:37] < Damakaru> Yeah, and where are you gonna fit the news that really matters?
[03:18:12] < tifreak36> there is news that matters? no way!
[03:18:59] < Cricket_B> I just e-mailed him
[03:19:16] < Cricket_B> (BrandonW)
[03:19:37] < Damakaru> Yeah, "Sir_Lewk will perform scientific feats; just give him a biscuit" is certainly news that matters.  :P
[03:19:44] < Cricket_B> LOL
[03:19:54] < Cricket_B> But stop that, Randomist
[03:20:29] < Cricket_B> I now have a job to do here; rebuilt the calculator community we have
[03:20:37] < Cricket_B> *rebuild
[03:21:16] < Cricket_B> I will sit here, and answer calculator questions people ask, and encourage calculator conversation
[03:21:16] <+TimMc> lol
[03:21:19] < Damakaru> One day later, Ticalc will be goen.
[03:21:35] < Cricket_B> That will be when the main server dies
[03:21:37] < glk> I try to answer TI-89 questions
[03:21:38] <+TimMc> no need to rebuild, school kids will always need ticalc.org ;p
[03:21:39] < Damakaru> Channel 'd been of died.
[03:21:57]  * TimMc hopes that one day ticalc.org will be able to be hosted on a future TI Calculator...
[03:22:05] < Cricket_B> Randomist, please change your nick
[03:22:09] <+TimMc> if they ever improve the fking hardware :/
[03:22:30] < Cricket_B> TimMc, cussing is not permitted here
[03:22:48] < tr1p1ea> is calcgames.org a better site than ticalc.org?
[03:22:48] <+TimMc> ;-p most IRC servers censor it :-P
[03:22:56] < Damakaru> Cricket_B:  No, 'cause then I'll be breaking the rule.  :P\
[03:22:56] <+Ox40> Cricket_B: Who are you?
[03:22:57] <+TimMc> lol, did it take off again?
[03:23:20] <+Ox40> EFNET does not censor anything
[03:23:35] < prime38> it censors my botnet password
[03:23:37] < prime38> *******
[03:23:39] <+TimMc> w00t :-P
[03:23:40] < prime38> see?
[03:23:41] < Cricket_B> Ox40, what do you mean?
[03:23:53] < Barrett> oh oh I want to try!
[03:23:57] <+Ox40> prime38: yeah, mine too ********
[03:23:58] < Barrett> password
[03:24:00] < Barrett> did it censor it?
[03:24:11] <+Ox40> ya
[03:24:12] < prime38> wow all i saw was ********
[03:24:16] <+TimMc> Cricket_B: people tend to ignore requests about enforcing "rules" from those that aren't +v or +o
[03:24:34] <+Ox40> ********
[03:24:35] <+Ox40> ********
[03:24:38] <+Ox40> ahahahaha awesome.
[03:24:41] <+TimMc> Cricket_B: tis better just to have it clear, rather than not be +v and kick with a  bot or something :p
[03:25:10] < Cricket_B> Then punish me by applying +v
[03:25:31] <+TimMc> o.O
[03:25:34] < Damakaru> ****************
[03:25:39]  * Ox40 sets mode on #tcpa +v Cricket_B
[03:25:46] < Damakaru> Oh, shi-!  IT really does.
[03:25:55] <+Ox40> Damakaru: hehe, cool huh?
[03:25:59] < prime38> ohh Ox40: give me ops
[03:26:07] <+TimMc> Ox40 ~.~
[03:26:11]  * Ox40 sets mode on #tcpa _o prime38
[03:26:14] <+Ox40> DAMN
[03:26:15] <+Ox40> -.-
[03:26:17] < prime38> _o!!!!!
[03:26:20] <+Ox40> new mode... _o
[03:26:23] <+TimMc> lol
[03:26:23] < prime38> hahahah
[03:26:27] < Cricket_B> _o
[03:26:31] <+Ox40> Sobriety test...
[03:26:34] <+Ox40> _o_
[03:26:37] <+Ox40> Touch your nose
[03:26:51] <+TimMc> _0/
[03:26:54]  * TimMc fails
[03:27:00] <+Ox40> \o/
[03:27:03] < prime38> _o>
[03:27:07] < prime38> whoops, my head
[03:27:08] <+Ox40> lol prime38...
[03:27:16] <+TimMc> co_
[03:27:26] < Damakaru> _Q
[03:27:32]  * Cricket_B sets mode on #tcpa +b *!*@*.*.*.*
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[03:27:43] <+TimMc> o.O
[03:27:46]  * Cricket_B has been banned from #tcpa (*.*.*.*)
[03:27:47]  * Ox40 sets mode on #tcpa +moron Cricket_B
[03:27:51] <+TimMc> wtf
[03:28:00] < Damakaru> Opwars!
[03:28:05] <+TimMc> jeez
[03:28:13] <+Ox40> TimMc: huh?
[03:28:20] <+TimMc> sif ban a host like that ;p
[03:28:27]  * Ox40 sets mode on #tcpa +o TimMc
[03:28:30] <+Ox40> Enjoy
[03:28:33] <+TimMc> ~.~
[03:28:33] <+Ox40> ;)
[03:29:12]  * Cricket_B has had -b applied (ban timeout)
[03:29:24] < Damakaru> Serious Cat is not amused.
[03:29:28] <+Ox40> :D
[03:29:28]  * Cricket_B has resumed #tcpa
[03:29:31] < Cricket_B> I'm back
[03:29:49] <+TimMc> yo
[03:29:50] <+Ox40> ya , no more /meing
[03:29:50] < Cricket_B> Ox40, happy to see me?
[03:30:03] < Cricket_B> /help /meing
[03:30:10] <+Ox40> Cricket_B: You..... are... really dumb. :)
[03:30:12] < Cricket_B> ERROR: Topic not found
[03:30:28] < prime38> /quote help meing
[03:30:31] < Damakaru> Andy_J must be breaking in the most brutal of his kicking boots.
[03:30:48] <+Ox40> ?
[03:30:52] <+TimMc> 3E1FD310C9 ftw!!!!
[03:31:12] <+Ox40> howaboutno.
[03:31:29] < chronomex> !qadd * Ox40 sets mode on #tcpa +moron Cricket_B
[03:31:31] <@efneTI86> Quote 1267 added
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[03:31:44] < Damakaru> Hahahaha!
[03:31:46] <+Ox40> :P
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[03:32:09] <+Ox40> !qsay 1266
[03:32:12] <@efneTI86> 1266: <Nsan1ty> I wish MV were. | <chronomex> IM him? | <V200> no you aren't him, silly | <_Digital> Instant Message | <_Digital> not I'm | <_Digital> how the hell did you manage to turn the computer on? [Added chronomex at 2008/05/07 18:33]
[03:32:14] < Cricket_B> My client crashed
[03:32:33] <+Ox40> HA, he really quit that time...
[03:33:03] <+TimMc> lol
[03:33:19] < Cricket_B> What error code did it supply?
[03:33:29] < prime38> +moron
[03:33:31] <+Ox40> yep
[03:33:44] < Cricket_B> No, can I have a direct reading of it?
[03:33:44] <+Ox40> Cricket_B (~Cricket_L@cpe-72-129-89-238.socal.res.rr.com) has quit IRC [Mode Set: +moron]
[03:34:09] < Cricket_B> That isn't anything this would output
[03:34:19] <+Ox40> Its the server that outputs it...
[03:34:35] <+Tari> * Cricket_B has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[03:34:40] <+Ox40> +moron is like a really short temporary kickban
[03:34:43] < Damakaru> Good going, Tari!
[03:34:46] <+Tari> yup
[03:34:47] <+Ox40> Tari: stop messing with him.
[03:35:05] < Damakaru> Yeah, quit it, you are so mean.
[03:35:15] < Cricket_B> No, if the client finds an error in syncronization, it executes /exit ERROR: *****
[03:35:16] < Cricket_B> Where the ***** is the error code
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[03:35:42] <+Ox40> Cricket_B: Not if the server sets you +moron
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[03:35:52] < prime38>  * Quits: Cricket_B (~Cricket_L@cpe-72-129-89-238.socal.res.rr.com) (Remote host is +moron)
[03:36:02] < chronomex> true
[03:36:09] < Damakaru> Cricket_B: You can drop f-bombs here while DarkAuron or MV isn't around.
[03:36:12] < Cricket_B> What was the exact message?
[03:36:26] <+Ox40> We gave it to you
[03:36:36] <+Ox40> our clients interpret +moron kills differently...
[03:36:38] < Cricket_B> That wasn't the message
[03:36:47] < chronomex> it was too
[03:36:52] < chronomex> I saw it here
[03:37:15] < Cricket_B> Oh wait, the command I set didn't work, exit take no parameters...
[03:37:31] < Cricket_B> Now it's /quit ERROR: ***** /exit
[03:38:04] <+Ox40> -.- What is your point Cricket_B?
[03:38:14] <+Tari> I just invented an emote: ?_?
[03:38:20] < Damakaru> (Saturday, May 10, 2008 10:30:44 PM America/Chicago) Cricket_B has left the room.  Reason: quit: Mode Set: +moron
[03:38:21] <+Tari> I declare it a bunny
[03:38:24] < Cricket_B> The error code is unknown
[03:39:05] <+Ox40> PIRCH?
[03:39:10] <+Ox40> That's your problem....
[03:39:18] < Cricket_B> PIRCH with some altered code
[03:39:21] <+Merthsoft> fuck
[03:39:27] < chronomex> Cricket_B: what OS? how much disk?
[03:39:42] < Damakaru> PIRCH sounds like an IRC program for a really old OS.
[03:39:48] < Damakaru> I don't know why, but it just does.
[03:39:53] <+Ox40> It is
[03:39:54] <+Ox40> CTCP VERSION reply from Cricket_B: PIRCH98:WIN 95/98/WIN NT:1.0 (build 1.0.1.1190) 
[03:40:00] < Cricket_B> OS WinXP Home, >300GB total HD Space spread across 2 drives and 3 partitions
[03:40:07] < chronomex> cool
[03:40:11] < chronomex> I wish I were as awesome as you
[03:40:13] <+TimMc> lol
[03:40:21] <+TimMc> 500GB on one o.O
[03:40:27] < Damakaru> Cricket_B:  That's nothing.  Tari's got 1.4 terabytes.
[03:40:32] <+Ox40> hehehe
[03:40:33] < Cricket_B> !
[03:40:35] <+Ox40> totally AWESOME
[03:40:40] < Cricket_B> What file system, Tari?
[03:40:46] < Cricket_B> FAT32 or NTFS?
[03:40:53] < chronomex> MurderFS
[03:41:02] < prime38> lol
[03:41:05] <+Ox40> I have 450GB on 3 drives
[03:41:17] < Damakaru> Haha, I like that, they should rename ReiserFS to that.
[03:41:19] < chronomex> I have 3x160 in RAID5
[03:41:19] < Cricket_B> Tari?
[03:41:28] < chronomex> Damakaru: GNAA made a patch that did that
[03:42:41] <+Ox40> How do I move a folder via FTP?
[03:43:03] < Nikky> you uh, don't use ftp
[03:43:24] < Cricket_B> Andy_J, *BLEEP* *BLEEP* *BLEEP* your Hook Manager
[03:43:28] <+Ox40> Nikky: WHAT OTHER WAY DO YOU SUGGEST?!?!
[03:43:39] <+Ox40> God Nikky... shut it already.
[03:43:43] < Nikky> sftp :)
[03:43:45] < chronomex> dam	note /topic
[03:44:18] <+Merthsoft> hi Nikky 
[03:44:25] <+Merthsoft> :D
[03:44:38] < Damakaru> Rename it to another directory?
[03:44:43] <+Ox40> Yeah, im trying
[03:44:51] < Cricket_B> Sorry, something came up on this computer
[03:44:53] < Nikky> Maybe try using a GUI?
[03:45:01] < Cricket_B> Me?
[03:45:07] < Nikky> No, not you.
[03:45:18] < Cricket_B> Well, I have to handle this computer repair...
[03:45:33] <+Ox40> Merthsoft?
[03:45:43] < Cricket_B> The DOS program AutoMessage is useful, apparently.
[03:45:48] < Cricket_B> (I wrote it)
[03:46:00] < Cricket_B> Well, I have to handle this...
[03:46:03] < Nikky> Ox40: Why the outburst?
[03:46:08] < Cricket_B> Bye for now.
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[03:46:17] <+Ox40> Nikky: because I am sick of you.
[03:46:22] < Nikky> Sick of me doing what?
[03:46:26] <+Ox40> Being you!
[03:46:32] < Nikky> Suggesting you don't use an insecure protocol?
[03:46:48] <+Ox40> No, jump into a conversation only when you can cause a fuss....
[03:47:01] < Nikky> Hmm, I don't see any note of that. :)
[03:53:14] < DarkAuron> nikky is so cute
[03:53:16] < prime38> Ox40: a very good point
[03:53:54] < prime38> i dont know why he is in this channel
[03:54:17] < prime38> he has nothing to to contribute about calculators
[03:54:34] < prime38> oh, except of ripping on other people who actually are doing something with them
[03:55:21] <+TimMc> lol
[03:55:26] < DarkAuron> like
[03:55:28] <+TimMc> I <3 Calculators!
[03:55:31] < DarkAuron> "lol T-BASIC"
[03:55:34] < DarkAuron> TI-*
[03:55:41] < DarkAuron> or basic sucks
[03:55:45] <+TimMc> I <3 Calculators! SYNTAX: ERR
[03:56:06] < prime38> or any line with "kerm" in it
[03:56:20] <+TimMc> ~.~ TI Basic doesn't suck :/
[03:56:30] < DarkAuron> TimMc: that's what nikky says though
[03:56:32] < Damakaru> Where'd Nikky come from, anyway?  Did he just suddenly appear one day, or did someone make a deal with the devil?
[03:56:34] < chronomex> does too TimMc
[03:56:37] < Nikky> basic sucks
[03:56:41] < DarkAuron> see?
[03:56:46] < DarkAuron> he's like a robot that barks out stuff on IRC
[03:56:50] <+TimMc> ~.~
[03:57:00] <+Ox40> if I < 3 Then DISP "It is love" Else DISP "Not this time" EndIF
[03:57:36] < Damakaru> I forgot the word I was gonna say.
[03:58:03] < DarkAuron> these chocolate-filled croissants are even better when high :x
[03:58:16] < Damakaru> IRC-ing high?
[03:58:20] < prime38> no way!
[03:58:23] < prime38> i didnt know
[03:58:28] < DarkAuron> no way?
[03:58:41] < Nikky> I sense hostility here.
[03:58:43] < DarkAuron> no way what O.o
[03:58:52] < prime38> i didnt know you used
[03:59:02] < DarkAuron> that I did drugs?
[03:59:04] < prime38> yes
[03:59:10] < DarkAuron> have been for a year
[03:59:14]  * Ox40 <3 DarkAuron
[03:59:20] <+Ox40> Cheap crap or the good stuff?
[03:59:32] < DarkAuron> Ox40: I'm didn't even finish my bowl and I'm pretty green at the moment.
[03:59:50] <+Ox40> hehehe awesome
[03:59:56] <+Ox40> Its been almost a year for me...
[04:00:05] <+Ox40> *facial tick*
[04:00:06] < DarkAuron> I didn't know if you guys would be comfortable about knowing that, but I decided why not :P
[04:00:17] < Damakaru> I wonder what this channel'd be like if everyone got high.
[04:00:20] <+Ox40> Heck, it makes me feel less horrible about myself.
[04:00:22] < Damakaru> Even BrandonW.
[04:00:26] < DarkAuron> Damakaru: less angry
[04:00:34] <+Ox40> DarkAuron: how do you get it?
[04:00:37] < Nikky> I'm naturally a very angry person.
[04:00:40] < DarkAuron> I have connections :P
[04:00:41] < Damakaru> Maybe I'd start making sense.  :P
[04:00:42] <+Ox40> Sounds kinda under-cover cop of me...
[04:00:52] <+Ox40> DarkAuron: like... are you in school?...
[04:01:02] <+Ox40> Damn my guy got busted and is going to jail...
[04:01:03] < DarkAuron> not at the moment, but I'm going to see about next semester
[04:01:06]  * TimMc is under teh radar, invisible behind teh pixel
[04:01:15] < prime38> just go to any college campus
[04:01:18] < DarkAuron> lol
[04:01:25] < DarkAuron> it's really not hard to find dealers
[04:01:37] <+TimMc> <.<
[04:01:49] < Damakaru> At my school, I think every one in five people deal.
[04:01:51] <+TimMc> lol, i gets datas instead of drugs ^.^
[04:02:06] < DarkAuron> Damakaru: er, that's a bit excessive
[04:02:09] <+TimMc> "Hook me up with some data man?"
[04:02:09] <+Ox40> DarkAuron: ya, but I go to a christian school... (booooooooo)
[04:02:21] < DarkAuron> Ox40: ah.
[04:02:29] <+Ox40> So, only one in like... 15 people deal ;)
[04:02:55] < Damakaru> The people here are crazy.  :P
[04:02:59] <+Ox40> yep
[04:03:19] < Damakaru> Especially that one chick who sounds like she's a huge user.
[04:03:22] < DarkAuron> and actually
[04:03:30] < DarkAuron> I only started smoking since last year, and I rarely did for awhile
[04:03:35] < Damakaru> She can break windows with her normal voice.
[04:03:35] < DarkAuron> recently though I've grown more akin to it.
[04:03:47] <+Ox40> ;P
[04:03:56] <+Ox40> God... monday im gettin some...
[04:03:58] <+Ox40> hrmmmmm
[04:04:07] < DarkAuron> helps me brainstorm
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[04:05:25] <+Ox40> hehehe
[04:05:27] <+Ox40> yeppp
[04:05:34] <+Ox40> I want to find a vaporizer tho...
[04:06:01] <+TimMc> drugs aren't good for the codes :-/
[04:06:12] < Damakaru> TCPA is now The Central Pot Association.
[04:06:19] <+Ox40> :P
[04:06:24] < prime38> get a water pipe
[04:06:26] <+Ox40> TimMc: thats ok..
[04:06:34] < prime38> makes the smoke really smooth
[04:06:34] <+Ox40> prime38: water pipe? you mean bong?
[04:06:38] < prime38> yes...bong
[04:06:47] < prime38> or hookah
[04:07:05] < prime38> ive only smoked tobacco from one though
[04:07:15] < DarkAuron> TimMc: can be if you focus
[04:07:24] < DarkAuron> yeah I've been to a hookah bar with friends prime38
[04:07:42] < DarkAuron> I also have a bong
[04:07:53] <+Ox40> Bong is too complicated...
[04:08:01] <+Ox40> I want something... that makes almost no smoke
[04:08:09] < DarkAuron> bong isn't complicated at all o.O
[04:08:10] <+TimMc> air?
[04:08:18] < DarkAuron> you put in water, you put in stuff, you burn and smoke.
[04:08:29] < DarkAuron> just like everything else
[04:08:37] < DarkAuron> though maybe not the water bit
[04:08:58] < prime38> lsd is smokless
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[04:09:05] <+Ox40> DarkAuron: I mean... its not smokeless
[04:09:18] <+Ox40> I can handle the smoke, I don't care if it's 'smooth'... I just want a vaporizer...
[04:09:25] < DarkAuron> ah
[04:09:27] <+Ox40> basically vaporizes the THC and nothing else
[04:09:31] < DarkAuron> for discretion?
[04:09:43] <+Ox40> basically
[04:09:57] <+Ox40> And Pot smoke is like... 10x worse than tobacco...
[04:10:06] <+Ox40> Or maybe I can just smell better when I'm baked
[04:10:23] < prime38> well erowid it dude
[04:10:24] < DarkAuron> normally your sense are super-enhanced
[04:10:41] < DarkAuron> tobacco is pretty bad too y'know
[04:10:46] < DarkAuron> when it comes to smell
[04:11:08] <+Ox40> erowid?
[04:11:11]  * TimMc doesn't do drugs ~.~
[04:11:14] < prime38> erowid.com
[04:11:14]  * TimMc feels so uncool
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[04:11:23] <+TimMc> XD
[04:11:28] < DarkAuron> TimMc: it doesn't matter, lol
[04:11:34] < DarkAuron> you smoke or you don't
[04:11:40] <+Ox40> DarkAuron: Yeah...
[04:11:50] <+Ox40> So it must just be sense-enhancement
[04:11:53] <+TimMc> I don't mind drugs though, I subconsiously enjoy watching people die <.<
[04:11:55] < DarkAuron> though those who thing smoking is bad, should look at cigs.. or uh.. ALCOHOL
[04:11:56] < prime38> caffiene is your drug
[04:12:13] < prime38> alcohol is good for you
[04:12:17] < DarkAuron> no it isn't
[04:12:20] <+TimMc> lol jeez, that'll come up as a random quote x.x
[04:12:22] <+Ox40> Man vaporizers are expensive
[04:12:35] < DarkAuron> they sure are
[04:12:43] < DarkAuron> still want one? :P
[04:12:54] <+Ox40> yep
[04:13:09] < DarkAuron> heh
[04:13:17] < prime38> Too much of anything is bad, but too much of good whiskey is barely enough.
[04:13:20] < prime38> mark twain
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[04:15:22] < prime38> :)
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[04:15:41] <@efneTI92> [Sir_Lewk] Give me a biscuit, I will do science to it
[04:16:51] < Nikky> Hi Sir_Lewk :)
[04:16:52] <+TimMc> muppets :-D
[04:16:59] < Sir_Lewk> hello
[04:17:06] < Nikky> How are you today?
[04:17:09] < prime38> ever see that one koren guy that was like the muppets?
[04:17:18] < prime38> the drum gag
[04:17:59] < Sir_Lewk> I am fine.
[04:18:04] < Nikky> Nice to hear
[04:18:06] < Sir_Lewk> (and I sense a trap...)
[04:18:11] < DarkAuron> I has chocolate chips! Yay!
[04:18:21] < Damakaru> http://www.freewebs.com/wolverinerogue/funnypictures.htm - lol at the second one.
[04:18:27] < Nikky> Sir_Lewk: Well, I'm actually struggling to remember why I don't like you.
[04:18:43] < Sir_Lewk> well that is good to hear then.
[04:18:45] < DarkAuron> Nikky is an internet haet machine!
[04:18:48] < Sir_Lewk> It
[04:18:56] < Nikky> And I couldn't think of any reason
[04:19:01] < Sir_Lewk> 's probably because I use fedora
[04:19:02] < Nikky> So I decided to be nice :)
[04:19:06] < Sir_Lewk> :P
[04:19:13] < Nikky> Well, yeah, you are a republican loving fedoratard
[04:19:17] < Nikky> But so what?
[04:19:38] < Damakaru> Nikky:  The World's Most Powerful Internet Hate Machine.
[04:19:38] < Sir_Lewk> lol
[04:19:53] < Damakaru> That wasn't supposed to get sent.
[04:19:56] < prime38> Nikky: the worst person i have ever met on irc
[04:20:10] < DarkAuron> aw, don't pick on the poor guy
[04:20:11] < Sir_Lewk> there are no people on irc
[04:20:18] < prime38> rudest person i have met ever in a long time
[04:20:31] < Nikky> Sir_Lewk: So is Drexel on quarters?
[04:20:39] < Sir_Lewk> yeah, kind of
[04:20:44] < Nikky> sweet
[04:20:48] < Nikky> quarters are awesome :)
[04:21:06] < DarkAuron> drexel?
[04:21:21] <+TimMc> TWMPIHM
[04:21:22] < Sir_Lewk> yeah, except the getting off in the middle of June part ;)
[04:21:30] < Nikky> well, but you start late
[04:21:36] < Nikky> and classes are more intense and shorter
[04:21:37] < Sir_Lewk> DarkAuron, where I go to school
[04:21:39] < Nikky> so finals aren't as bad
[04:21:42] < Sir_Lewk> yeah
[04:21:52] < prime38> when did you start?
[04:21:58] < DarkAuron> oh :O
[04:22:02] < Sir_Lewk> middle of september
[04:22:19] < Nikky> yeah, I start like thelast week of september
[04:22:27] < DarkAuron> thought nikky was talking about some character from a tv show standing on a pile of quarters, and then saying he likes quarters (as in the coins)
[04:22:45] < Sir_Lewk> haha
[04:22:49] < Nikky> nice!
[04:23:06] < DarkAuron> as drexel doesn't seem to work as a name for anything other than an alien or something
[04:23:21] < prime38> or villian
[04:23:27] < DarkAuron> ah, that too
[04:23:30] < Sir_Lewk> lol
[04:23:44] < Sir_Lewk> names with "x" in them are always reserved for bad guys
[04:24:00] <+TimMc> MalcomX
[04:24:05] <+TimMc> TimX
[04:24:17] < DarkAuron> megaman X? :P
[04:24:17] <+TimMc> JesuX
[04:24:17] < Damakaru> Xlibman.
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[04:24:21] <@efneTI92> [Tari_] Remember, remember the 5th of November
[04:24:30] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Tari_] by etaonrish
[04:24:32] < DarkAuron> Damakaru: that was rude
[04:24:41] < prime38> :x
[04:25:06] < Damakaru> Aw, it is only bad if I do it.  :x
[04:26:03] < DarkAuron> visual studio needs to download faster -_-
[04:26:07] < Nikky> I thought it was amusing
[04:26:07] < prime38> what is this  [l/][p/]
[04:26:08] < Nikky> :)
[04:26:24] < prime38> i cant tell what that is supposed to look like
[04:26:34]  * Damakaru shivers:  Visual Studio?
[04:26:57] < Damakaru> Aaaaaaaah!  Get it away!  Get it away!
[04:27:02] < DarkAuron> loser
[04:27:06]  * Damakaru runs and stands on a table.
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[04:27:14]  * DarkAuron breaks the legs of the table
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[04:27:26]  * Damakaru walks in mid-air.
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[04:28:20] <+TimMc> Get it away, get it away, get it away now! :-D
[04:28:26] < DarkAuron> oh god
[04:28:26]  * TimMc rocks out
[04:28:27] < DarkAuron> oldschool
[04:28:46] < DarkAuron> I want that song now
[04:28:49] <+TimMc> ;p
[04:29:00] <+TimMc> i haven't listened to radio etc in the past 3-4 years o.o
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[04:30:48] < _Auron_> damn
[04:31:00] <+TimMc> tis a good thing ;p
[04:31:06] < _Auron_> you should listen at least every now and then
[04:31:14] <+TimMc> i'd prolly go homicidal <.<
[04:31:29] < _Auron_> psh
[04:31:33] <+TimMc> i really hate the crap they play and the shit they spout :/
[04:31:57] < prime38> yea TALKING DURING THE SONG
[04:31:59] <+TimMc> and in aus, we actually pay (tax) for them to do it :/
[04:32:00] < prime38> WTF
[04:32:14] < _Auron_> O.o
[04:32:15] < prime38> cutting the song off before its fully done
[04:32:17] < _Auron_> australia?
[04:32:20] <+TimMc> yup
[04:32:27] < _Auron_> that's pretty bad
[04:32:46] <+TimMc> ABC + JJJ, two stations that our taxes go towards :/
[04:32:59] < prime38> how about MEX
[04:33:15] <+TimMc> duno ;pp
[04:33:18] < Damakaru> Our radio stations aren't the best here.  We got Texas Tech station that plays electronic, metal/rock, and hip-hop; some Christian stations, a bunch of Spanish stations, two old-school music stations, and three rap/hip-hop stations.
[04:33:20] < prime38> i pay taxes that go to a lot of MEX
[04:33:52] < Damakaru> On the lattermost, they play the same songs way too much all the time.
[04:36:24]  * Damakaru pushes the RESET button on the channel.
[04:39:50] < Damakaru> "ntsokrnl.dll is missing?"  Uh-oh, I didn't do it!  [Runs away.]
[04:40:56] < Sir_Lewk> bbl
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[04:41:30] <+TimMc> lol
[04:44:23]  * Damakaru wades through all the smoke in the channel and goes off to the fridge.
[04:45:14] < Damakaru> What the hell?
[04:45:28] < Damakaru> Why's the fridge filled with biscuits?
[04:45:31] < Damakaru> Sir_Lewk!!
[04:46:44] < prime38> ohhh man
[04:46:46] < prime38> you are so lucky
[04:55:17] <+TimMc> i like piano bread
[04:55:22] <+TimMc> brb clothes
[04:56:56] < Damakaru> Musical bread?
[04:57:20] < Damakaru> I must have 1!
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[05:08:34] <@efneTI92> [DSPLord] *waves hand* You will give me +v.
[05:08:45] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v DSPLord] by efneTI89, Remius
[05:10:55]  * Damakaru looks at the quiet channel and hears crickets chirping.
[05:11:15] < Damakaru> SOMEONE GO KILL THOSE!!!
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[05:26:55] <+TimMc> heya
[05:27:17] < _Auron_> biscuits are awesome
[05:27:25]  * Tari_ wonders why imagemagick is pulling in x11 dependencies
[05:27:38] <+Tari_> USE="-X"
[05:27:46] < prime38> yea, get some gravy
[05:27:50] < prime38> and YUM
[05:28:04] < Damakaru> Biscuits + eggs + cheese == <3
[05:28:07] <+Tari_> anyway
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[05:31:35] <@efneTI92> [Speng0] En Taro Adun, Executor
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[05:33:51] <@efneTI92> [Merth] Heat, time, and pressure; the things needed to make diamonds also make waffles.
[05:33:59] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Merth] by efneTI92
[05:34:17] < Spengo> wtf flamingspinach
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[05:35:03] < Spengo> wat
[05:35:21] < Spengo> ಠ_ಠ
[05:38:35] < _Auron_> flaming spinach?
[05:38:38] < prime38> omg 4chan really fucked up this website
[05:38:40] < prime38> http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/play.shtml?mea=239693
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[05:40:04] < _Auron_> o_o
[05:40:22] < _Auron_> jesus christ
[05:40:55] < tr1p1ea> my dumbass friend bought a dvd for his mother (its mothers day here)
[05:41:09] < _Auron_> tr1p1ea: ?
[05:41:15] < tr1p1ea> well he meant to buy a dvd
[05:41:24] < tr1p1ea> but he bought the bluray version instead
[05:41:41] < _Auron_> gail
[05:41:44] < _Auron_> fail*
[05:42:09] < Nikky> How do you do that by accident?
[05:43:47] < Barrett> why is a script automatically creating accounts on CG?
[05:43:52] < Barrett> what is it benefitting in doing so?
[05:44:10] < _Auron_> raiding of course
[05:44:13] < Nikky> haha
[05:44:14] < Barrett> none of the e-mail addresses are real, so it can't even log in unless it magically guesses the passwords
[05:44:23] < Nikky> it hates you
[05:45:47] < _Auron_> I finally realize why windows and directx require a ton of setup
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[05:45:57] < prime38> enlighten us
[05:46:08] < _Auron_> for its organization
[05:46:15] < _Auron_> so it can ensure to pass its messages to every program
[05:46:19] < _Auron_> and manage every program
[05:46:35] < prime38> well, then good job directx
[05:46:44] < _Auron_> well not so sure about directx
[05:46:49] < _Auron_> but I'm reading on the windows API
[05:47:27] < _Auron_> baffled me for a long time as to why the !@%# it takes over 100 lines of code to do a hello world program
[05:47:40] < _Auron_> but I'm reading this ebook and it's explaining everything
[05:47:50] < Nikky> Windows rules :)
[05:47:58] < Nikky> What are you going to make with your new learning?
[05:48:11] < _Auron_> not sure, but I just want to steer off of darkbasic pro
[05:48:21] < Nikky> fair enough
[05:49:19] < _Auron_> stuff I've read before was too vague
[05:49:35] < _Auron_> they'd list out the parameters and what they do in relation to the windows API, but didn't explain what they're literally for
[05:49:44] < Nikky> that sucks
[05:49:52] < _Auron_> what I'm reading now not only gives me the info I need, but a bit of history and why things should be set to null or not
[05:50:02] < Nikky> yeah
[05:50:07] < Nikky> that's really helpful
[05:50:25] < _Auron_> windows used to use the same copy for multiple instances of a program when RAM was more limited
[05:50:42] < _Auron_> but now it just creates a unique copy of each instance as a unique program working on its own
[05:52:21] < prime38> in the future each program will get its own core!
[05:52:35] < _Auron_> yeah!
[05:52:37] < _Auron_> lol
[05:52:49] < _Auron_> because we'll have 32 core systems
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[05:58:06] < _Auron_> man
[05:58:20] < _Auron_> microsoft, yahoo, google, mapquest, they all have map databases.
[05:58:26] < _Auron_> google ftw though
[06:03:16] <+TimMc> lol
[06:03:19] <+TimMc> whereis?
[06:03:20] <+TimMc> ;p
[06:04:53] < _Auron_> it's almost done downloading.
[06:06:41]  * _Auron_ will have a lot of fun toying with this
[06:11:09] < _Auron_> :O this book even explains 3d math pretty nice
[06:12:05] < prime38> 3d math, in MY book... i dont think so
[06:12:13] < Nikky> ?
[06:12:31] < prime38> ehh, play of a tf2 thing
[06:12:40] < _Auron_> holy. crap.
[06:12:41] < Nikky> oh
[06:12:45] < Nikky> I don't play games
[06:12:50]  * _Auron_ just realized something and it smacked him in the face
[06:12:53] < prime38> spy sapping MY sentry
[06:13:11] < _Auron_> ints, floats, etc are just classes, and variables are instances of those.
[06:13:12] < Spengo> SPAIS
[06:13:28] < _Auron_> total timeplox in my brain
[06:14:05] < _Auron_> I feel like I've been retarded this whole time :(
[06:15:28] < _Auron_> this book makes a point3 structure, which is like a variable type for 3d vectors
[06:15:47] < _Auron_> and gives the code, and when I saw it I realized that int, float, char, etc are pretty much the same thing
[06:15:57] < _Auron_> amirite?
[06:16:08] < prime38> a vector could just be an array
[06:17:02] < prime38> which it just a bunch of ints or whatever
[06:20:04] < prime38> e is better than pi
[06:20:05] < moko|586> _Auron_: What language?
[06:20:38] < _Auron_> moko|586: C++
[06:21:19] < moko|586> then something like: template<T> struct Vector3 { T x, y, z; };
[06:21:20] < Nikky> prime38: Why do you complain about me so much?
[06:22:07] < prime38> you offer sarcastic remarks when people are asking for help
[06:22:18] < prime38> some one will ask, which is better, a, b, or c
[06:22:23] < prime38> and you will just say c
[06:22:33] < prime38> without knowing what anyof them are
[06:23:20] < moko|586> and _Auron_: int, float, double, short, long, char, bool are *not* technically classes, they're primitives.
[06:23:22] < Nikky> okay
[06:23:33] < prime38> that's one example
[06:24:01] < moko|586> but yes, they function pretty much as if they're classes that are already built for you.
[06:24:34] < moko|586> One major difference is that you can't subclass (inherit) them.
[06:24:51] < chronomex> mo	depends on the languadge
[06:25:03] < moko|586> chronomex: we've established C++
[06:25:13] < _Auron_> moko|586: this is what the book has: http://pastebin.com/d12e5001f
[06:26:06] < _Auron_> moko|586: well yeah, I kinda figure that since they're a bit more permanent in existance :P
[06:26:13] < moko|586> that's actually relatively decent code
[06:26:22] < _Auron_> it's a good book
[06:26:24] < moko|586> I try not to use unions, but ... meh
[06:26:32] < _Auron_> what exactly is a union?
[06:26:39] < moko|586> that's a rather acceptable use of union
[06:26:50] < _Auron_> oh nm, it states it in the book
[06:27:22] < moko|586> a union is like a struct, except it is the size of the largest element inside it, and the elements overlap each other in memory
[06:27:44] < chronomex> moko|586: okay
[06:27:45] < _Auron_> basically they act as a unified bit of data, all containing the same thing
[06:27:47] < moko|586> and that code is actually ... WRONG
[06:28:06] < moko|586> as in, it will compile, but there is no way to access the x, y, or z variables
[06:28:48] < _Auron_> inline void point3::Assign( float X, float Y, float Z ) { x=X; y=Y; z=Z; }
[06:29:03] < moko|586> that shouldn't compile
[06:29:16] < moko|586> actually... it shouldn't compile
[06:29:35] < _Auron_> well I'm about to find out
[06:29:45] < moko|586> because x,y,z aren't members of the struct, or even the union ... they're members of that inside struct that has no name
[06:30:16] < _Auron_> A nameless struct is used to let you define
[06:30:16] < _Auron_> the x, y, and z components as one atomic unit (since I don't want them to each be referring to the same piece of
[06:30:16] < _Auron_> memory). This way you can use the familiar x,y,z notation for most of the code, but maintain the ability to index into an
[06:30:16] < _Auron_> array for iteration.
[06:30:18] < moko|586> at least it wouldn't compile if it were a class, I don't know if making it a struct flattens out the namespace a bit
[06:30:24] < _Auron_> ack, didn't mean to paste multiple lines.
[06:30:29] < moko|586> 'tis fine
[06:30:37] < moko|586> at least you didn't do like me and list every episode of anime you had
[06:30:44] < _Auron_> ....yeah that was pretty bad :)
[06:30:58] < moko|586> my brain at its finest!
[06:32:29] < moko|586> okay, I concede, that example compiles
[06:32:32] < moko|586> and I'm not exactly sure why
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[06:32:56] < _Auron_> might have to do with the nameless struct
[06:33:07] < moko|586> indeed
[06:33:10] < moko|586> and the nameless union
[06:33:26] < moko|586> rather, the fact that they're *both* nameless.
[06:33:35] < _Auron_> heh
[06:33:59] < _Auron_> the union is there so the data can be accessed in loops or something like that.
[06:34:13] < _Auron_> while also having the full x,y,z datatype
[06:34:17] < _Auron_> which is interesting
[06:35:04] < moko|586> _Auron_: http://pastebin.com/m1a4974a8 <- How I would code essentially the same thing
[06:35:25] < _Auron_> template and T?
[06:35:27] < moko|586> yeah
[06:35:45] < _Auron_> what are those?
[06:35:54] < moko|586> so you make a Vector3<float> if you want it to contain floats, Vector3<int> if you want it to contain ints, etc.
[06:36:34] < moko|586> templates are what makes C++ C++.  And what make it confusing as hell
[06:36:59] < _Auron_> oh, making it even more dynamic?
[06:37:00] < moko|586> basically, you can fill the <> with whatever you want, and that gets replaced where T is
[06:37:12] < _Auron_> that's sick
[06:37:30] < moko|586> the only caveat is you have to do so in the .h file, because it's compiled as it's needed
[06:38:19] < moko|586> and ... so far with my code, if you want to use a class in the <> instead, it copies it one time unnecessarily
[06:38:57] < moko|586> i.e. it copies each to pass it as arguments ... pretty cheap operation if you're using primitives, but not if you make a Vector3<> out of, say, arbitrary precision numbers
[06:39:41] < moko|586> http://pastebin.com/d3a35e2e3 <- even more optimized and wonderful
[06:40:14] < moko|586> eek, I forgot to change the names of point3 to Vector3 but ... meh you get the point
[06:40:27] < _Auron_> yeah
[06:40:43] < _Auron_> what's the &X, &Y, &Z for?
[06:41:17] < moko|586> const T &X
[06:41:33] < moko|586> means a constant reference 
[06:41:52] < _Auron_> er?
[06:42:14] < moko|586> a reference is essentially a pointer without being a pointer
[06:42:39] < prime38> haha
[06:43:10] < moko|586> that makes X essentially refer to the variable you pass it (instead of a copy thereof) ... but a constant one so that your constructor code doesn't *change* it.
[06:43:57] <@Andy_J> C++ is too complicated.
[06:44:03] < _Auron_> um
[06:44:05] < moko|586> Andy_J: AGREED
[06:44:15] < _Auron_> from what I understand, wouldn't that make the variables constant anyways?
[06:44:21] < moko|586> ah
[06:44:28] < moko|586> no
[06:44:28] <@Andy_J> Needs more Java.
[06:44:37] <@Andy_J> And on that note, bed time.
[06:44:41] < moko|586> oyasumi
[06:45:00] < _Auron_> I'm just a bit confused
[06:45:12] < moko|586> So it doesn't copy the values as it's passed into the constructor, but the constructor *does* copy them within itself
[06:45:27] < _Auron_> so that, on a very very very small scale, makes it more efficient?
[06:45:32] < moko|586> the x(X), y(Y), z(Z) line copies them as well
[06:45:58] < moko|586> yep
[06:46:23] < _Auron_> the const is just a fake yet efficient way of directly accessing the variables instead of 'copying' the values from a temporary variable the constructor made?
[06:46:30] < moko|586> the x(X) line is equivalent to calling T's constructor with X as its argument
[06:46:41] < moko|586> no, the & is
[06:46:46] < _Auron_> er, yeah
[06:46:57] < _Auron_> that's insane. O.o
[06:47:01] < moko|586> the const is just there to reassure whomever uses this code that your constructor won't change them
[06:47:07] < _Auron_> I understand it a bit, but geeze that's high level shit
[06:47:50] < moko|586> yeah it is
[06:48:00] < moko|586> fortunately, I speak C++ better than English :)
[06:48:02] < _Auron_> I probably won't remember that tomorrow. :o
[06:48:07] < _Auron_> unless I make a note of it
[06:48:12] < _Auron_> I'm intrigued by c++
[06:48:20] < moko|586> read through whatever chapter you have on references.
[06:48:26] < _Auron_> it seems flexible, just gotta figure out where all the joints are
[06:48:39] < moko|586> and call-by-reference vs. call-by-value
[06:49:08] < moko|586> basically, the original way... calling point3(a,b,c) copies a into X, then X into x
[06:49:27] < moko|586> the copying a into X is completely unnecessary, since you don't *change* X
[06:50:09] < moko|586> so you make X simply be another name for a
[06:50:09] < _Auron_> yeah, that makes sense
[06:50:16] < _Auron_> you're simply defining it
[06:50:38] < moko|586> The hardest part to wrap your brain around is probably what the "const" does
[06:51:25] < Spengo> just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you
[06:51:27] < Spengo> o_o
[06:51:31] < _Auron_> moko|586: I think I understand why
[06:51:38] < moko|586> because if you do: int a = 5; const int &b = a; b = 35; <- that throws an error, since you can't change b
[06:52:08] < moko|586> but int a = 5; const int &b = a; a = 35; <- that's perfectly legal, since you *can* change a, and both a and b are the value 35
[06:52:34] < _Auron_> I think it's because
[06:52:49] < _Auron_> const int &b = a; b = 35; is considered one line
[06:52:50] < moko|586> so making something "const" means you can't change it through THAT NAME, it does *not* mean that it can't change at all
[06:53:09] < _Auron_> so it's like you're doing const int b = 35;
[06:53:15] < moko|586> ah, NO
[06:53:17] < _Auron_> no?
[06:53:24] < moko|586> semicolons are used as end-of-line ALWAYS
[06:53:40] < moko|586> const int &b = a; b = 35; // WILL NOT COMPILE
[06:53:44] < _Auron_> wait I misread, nm
[06:54:02] < _Auron_> because you stated b as const then tried to pass a regular value to it
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[06:54:33] < _Auron_> so on the second line you're pointing b to a?
[06:54:37] < moko|586> yes
[06:54:40] < _Auron_> ah.
[06:54:50] < moko|586> that's the syntax for saying b is another name for a
[06:55:01] < _Auron_> so it's a constant pointer but not necessarily a constant int, as it acts like a magic mirror into a
[06:55:34] < moko|586> yes and no
[06:55:34] < Nikky> :)
[06:55:46] < _Auron_> what's nikky smiling about? :)
[06:56:04] < Nikky> Because I love moko|586 so much
[06:56:08] < _Auron_> lol
[06:56:49] < moko|586> it's a "constant pointer" because in NO CIRCUMSTANCE can you EVER change what a reference refers to.  It acts as if it is a "constant int" from a syntactic standpoint because the compiler catches assignments to it.  However, it is NOT actually constant, because a (what it points to) can change.
[06:57:00] < _Auron_> ....that's what I meant
[06:57:09] < moko|586> then you get it =)
[06:57:09] < _Auron_> by magic mirror into a I meant because it's pointing to a
[06:57:21] < moko|586> now, quiz time
[06:57:24] < _Auron_> woot
[06:57:29] < moko|586> wait, have you done pointers yet?
[06:57:38] < _Auron_> I've done stuff in Z80
[06:57:41] < _Auron_> that involved pointers
[06:57:57] < _Auron_> haven't done pointers in C++ though as I didn't understand what the point would be on such a high level
[06:57:59] < moko|586> I'm more worried about syntax more than anything.  C pointer syntax is a prereq for what I was quizzing you over.
[06:58:36] < _Auron_> does that involve the use of the asterick in variable names?
[06:58:40] < moko|586> yes.
[06:58:54] < moko|586> actually, _Auron_ ... pointers to objects are used more often than not, because it enables them to be polymorphic.
[06:58:55] < _Auron_> I could probably read up on it real quick and understand it, I just haven't messed with it so I don't remember
[06:59:03] < _Auron_> ah
[06:59:25] < _Auron_> well the last time I tried using C++ I didn't understand what the point of classes and objects were :P
[06:59:26] < _Auron_> but
[06:59:38] < _Auron_> in the past 6 months I've turned myself to a bit of OOP in darkbasic pro, and find it quite nice
[06:59:49] < _Auron_> but dbpro is kinda limited, so that's why I'm pushing myself into C++
[07:01:43] < _Auron_> oh hell, that's easy
[07:01:50] < _Auron_> I'm looking on cprogramming.com
[07:01:57] < _Auron_> the concept of pointers is pretty simple
[07:02:40] < prime38> do you have any asm background?
[07:02:50] < _Auron_> int x = 10; int *p; p = &x; cout << *p <<
[07:02:55] < _Auron_> er, accidently hit enter
[07:03:24] < _Auron_> prime38: I've coded in Z80 for the ti-83+SE before
[07:03:40] < _Auron_> haven't touched x86 or any other before
[07:03:44] < prime38> cool
[07:04:04] < _Auron_> I remember learning Z80 and finding out how to count in binary, and in any other number system than decimal :P
[07:04:04] < prime38> it helps to know how the c++ gets translated into asm
[07:04:31] < _Auron_> so I code it more like asm?
[07:04:43] < _Auron_> or what
[07:04:51] < prime38> well, for pointers at least
[07:05:01] < prime38> one specific example
[07:06:03] < moko|586> mmkay, now that my clothes are folded
[07:06:40] <+TimMc> typing is fun :-)
[07:06:48] < prime38> dont forget to call your mothers today
[07:07:32] <+TimMc> asm is a good background to understanding pointers
[07:08:26] <+TimMc> char a = 'Z'; /* at memory address $1000
[07:08:28] < _Auron_> TimMc: because you can't do much in asm without using pointers :P
[07:08:35] <+TimMc> char * b = a;
[07:08:42] <+TimMc> failz
[07:08:53] <+TimMc> bsr :-)
[07:08:57] < _Auron_> ?
[07:08:59] <+TimMc> sub routines are fun
[07:09:07] <+TimMc> m68k
[07:09:09] < prime38> jsr
[07:09:15] <+TimMc> lol yeh
[07:09:27] < prime38> jump tables are goos stuff
[07:09:30] < prime38> *good
[07:09:32] <+TimMc> bsr is limited to a certain range, wheras jsr is anywhere?
[07:09:49] <+TimMc> i forget the exact implementation... basically do the same thing o.O
[07:09:51] < prime38> what is the b for is bsr?
[07:09:58] < prime38> i dont really know in 68k
[07:10:04] <+TimMc> branch to subroutine
[07:10:07] < moko|586> _Auron_: http://tcpa.pastebin.com/d575fdd7 what do each of those do?  Once you understand how that works ... you pretty well should get the nuances of const.
[07:10:08] <+TimMc> instead of jump
[07:10:12] < prime38> hmm, could be
[07:10:30] < prime38> i thought jsr (usually) took any memory address
[07:10:31] <+TimMc> it just puts the next statement on the stack, and jumps to the subroutine you're calling
[07:11:37] < moko|586> _Auron_: I'll save talking about objects, pointers to them, polymorphism, and the like for tomorrow :)
[07:11:48] <+TimMc> i haven't done much 68k asm lately x.x and have never done m68k asm for the 89 :(
[07:11:58] <+TimMc> just had to do it for uni work
[07:11:58] < _Auron_> moko|586: example 1 throws an error because you can't change *x... example 2.. I think does the same thing for the same reason, just having the pointer declaration in a different place?
[07:12:30] < Spengo> what the deuce?
[07:12:38] < moko|586> _Auron_: You're correct on #1, wrong on #2
[07:12:49] < Spengo> this is weird
[07:12:50] < _Auron_> that confused me
[07:13:01] < _Auron_> why is * by itself
[07:13:01] < Spengo> AGH
[07:13:02] < moko|586> #2 works perfectly well because the destination of the pointer is constant, not the contents of the address
[07:13:06] < Spengo> :OOOO!!!
[07:13:23] < prime38> Spengo: the suspense is killing me
[07:13:29] < moko|586> "int * const" is a type ... constant pointer to a variable int
[07:13:30] < Spengo> good
[07:13:43] < _Auron_> o.O
[07:13:48] < Spengo> there's like this kid with gold roller blades and a bent bat and he goes around hitting people
[07:13:53] <+TimMc> wait
[07:13:58] <+TimMc> u can do int * const ?
[07:14:00] < _Auron_> so a becomes 5?
[07:14:01] < moko|586> which gets covered in #3 and #4
[07:14:12] < _Auron_> er not becomes, but gets the value 5
[07:14:12] <+TimMc> thought it'd fail
[07:14:16] < moko|586> _Auron_: in example 2 yes
[07:14:23] < _Auron_> :o okay
[07:14:29] < moko|586> TimMc: yep, not only you can, but you probably *should*
[07:14:41] < _Auron_> 3 and 4 continue from the beginning as if it were a whole program right?
[07:14:50] <+TimMc> moko|586: i thought the syntax was const int * ?
[07:15:00] < moko|586> TimMc: Both are legal.
[07:15:00] <+TimMc> i dunno how flexible c++ is o.O
[07:15:08] < _Auron_> apparently really damn flexible
[07:15:08] < moko|586> but they mean different things.
[07:15:38] < moko|586> think of it as grouped (const int) *
[07:15:44] < moko|586> versus int (* const)
[07:16:37] < moko|586> the former allows you to change what you point TO, but not the value contained there.  The latter allows you to change what's contained somewhere, but not what you point to.
[07:16:53] < _Auron_> example 3.. uh.. a would get the value of b, then error on the second line because you can't change the pointed value of x?
[07:17:14] < moko|586> _Auron_: Correct!
[07:17:18] < _Auron_> sweet. o_o
[07:17:23] < moko|586> wait
[07:17:24] < moko|586> no
[07:17:31] < _Auron_> damn
[07:17:48] < moko|586> a is unchanged.  x would point to b, but the second line does fail because you can't change anything that x points to
[07:17:58] < _Auron_> hmm
[07:18:00] < moko|586> well, you can't change it by using the "x" name.
[07:18:19] < _Auron_> I see now
[07:18:44] < _Auron_> so that's a tricky way around const
[07:18:47]  * _Auron_ looks at example 4
[07:18:49] < moko|586> exactly
[07:18:54] < moko|586> const is *very* tricky beast.
[07:20:20] <+TimMc> weird
[07:20:31] < _Auron_> ugh
[07:20:33] <+TimMc> 4: value can't be changed?
[07:20:35] <+TimMc> address can?
[07:20:54] < _Auron_> so the int * const is the inverse of int const *?
[07:21:08] < _Auron_> in terms of address vs. value?
[07:21:13] <+TimMc> just refers to different const o.O address vs value o.O ?
[07:21:19] < moko|586> yep
[07:21:26] <+TimMc> const int * const y ?
[07:21:29] < _Auron_> that's so weird
[07:21:36] < moko|586> TimMc: SEIKAKU!
[07:21:39] < _Auron_> O_o
[07:21:42] < _Auron_> seikaku?
[07:21:57] < moko|586> ehr
[07:22:00] < moko|586> TimMc: EXACTLY!
[07:22:03] < _Auron_> I'm assuming const int * const y locks down both address and value to constant?
[07:22:04] <+TimMc> woot ;p
[07:22:13] < moko|586> you're both right!
[07:22:17] < _Auron_> dude
[07:22:17] <+TimMc> wee ;p
[07:22:19] < _Auron_> wicked
[07:22:21] < moko|586> it is
[07:22:25]  * TimMc started C this semester x.x
[07:22:38]  * TimMc has to use structs and linked lists x.x
[07:23:00] < moko|586> TimMc: You were actually wrong a little while ago... line 16 is invalid but line 17 is valid.
[07:23:22] < moko|586> you can't change where y points to, but you *can* change what is there
[07:23:22] < _Auron_> moko|586: I think that's what he meant
[07:23:34] < moko|586> 02:19 <+TimMc> 4: value can't be changed?
[07:23:39] < moko|586> I don't think so
[07:23:42] < _Auron_> oh
[07:24:16] < moko|586> trick I learned, read the declaration right to left
[07:24:25] < moko|586> so int * const is a [constant pointer] to an int
[07:24:26] <+TimMc> fair nuff ^^
[07:24:32] < moko|586> where as const int * is a pointer to a [constant int]
[07:24:45] < _Auron_> that's a good trick
[07:25:04] < moko|586> and TimMc's const int * const is a [constant pointer] to a [constant int]
[07:25:10] < _Auron_> yeah
[07:25:26] < moko|586> and I urge you to throw const whereever you know you won't tchange something
[07:25:32] < moko|586> it lets the compiler catch your mistakes.
[07:25:36] <+TimMc> :D
[07:25:46] < Nikky> so uh, lets talk about law or politics :)
[07:26:02] < _Auron_> lol
[07:26:03] < moko|586> and frankly, C/C++ is so illegible, you need the compiler to catch whatever you can get it to =)
[07:26:09] < _Auron_> haha
[07:26:15] < prime38> #politics
[07:26:18] < moko|586> because *you* certainly won't.
[07:26:19] < _Auron_> it's not nearly as illegible as asm though :P
[07:26:24] < moko|586> true.
[07:26:30] < Nikky> Try perl
[07:26:31] < _Auron_> and some in here have managed with asm :D
[07:26:34] < Nikky> It's legible and fun
[07:26:37] < moko|586> but I still have changed myself over to Python and Haskell for a lot of what I do.
[07:26:54] < Nikky> Python is acceptable
[07:27:32] < moko|586> Haskell was mindfuck until I had to take a class with Scheme, and then functional programming just clicked, and now I can't let it go.
[07:27:48] < Nikky> it's like crack
[07:27:58] < moko|586> come to think of it.... yeah =P
[07:28:37] < Nikky> When are you staying in Seattle?
[07:28:50] < _Auron_> I was used to doing mIRC scripting and TI-BASIC and QBASIC where objects didn't really exist when it came to coding, everything was rather linear
[07:28:51] < moko|586> I'll be arriving on the 17th, leaving on August 9th.
[07:29:05] < _Auron_> so only recently have I done any OOP
[07:29:11] < moko|586> QBASIC *sort of* had objects.  A little bit.  A teaser.
[07:29:20] < Nikky> That's a pretty good time period
[07:29:26] <+TimMc> OOP is fun
[07:29:32] < moko|586> OOP is amazing.
[07:29:34] <+TimMc> highly recommend learning design patterns first o.o
[07:29:36] < Nikky> I'd say that it gets "hot," but you live in Texas. :) 
[07:29:52] < moko|586> TimMc: Design patterns are my enemy.  It's why I dropped my CS degree.
[07:29:52] <+TimMc> i'm yet to learn many design patterns, but i find the code i'm making is crappy :/
[07:29:53] < _Auron_> Nikky: haha
[07:29:58] <+TimMc> ;p
[07:30:06] < _Auron_> design patterns?
[07:30:08] < moko|586> I've found you make crappier code when all you care about are pattern.s
[07:30:19] < prime38> _Auron_: yea like circle, trianglw...
[07:30:23] <+TimMc> design patterns are ways of programming o.O
[07:30:24] < prime38> :)
[07:30:32] < _Auron_> you mean generic layout of code?
[07:30:36] < moko|586> yes.
[07:30:37] < Nikky> yes
[07:30:41] < _Auron_> that isn't really that efficient, just more structurally pleasing to the eye?
[07:30:41] < Nikky> jinx
[07:30:43] <+TimMc> much like architecture design patterns... people have tried stuff before and proven that it works well
[07:30:55] < _Auron_> and passing on code
[07:30:56] <+TimMc> n documented it... so you can just pick a pattern (several) to make your program
[07:31:01] < moko|586> aardvarq: http://tcpa.aardy.net/stats/ircstats/ hasn't been updated since April O_o
[07:31:07] <+TimMc> lol
[07:31:26] < Nikky> moko|586: EJ's stats are better anyway
[07:31:33] < moko|586> link?
[07:31:39] < Nikky> they're on the tcpa website
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[07:31:45] < Nikky> http://users.tkk.fi/~relamsa/IRCStats/tcpa.html
[07:31:47] < prime38> yea, brandonw (god rest his soul) is still at the top of that list
[07:31:51] < moko|586> _Auron_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_patterns
[07:32:00] < moko|586> what happened to Brandonw?
[07:32:20] < Nikky> VB
[07:32:22] < _Auron_> he left the channel because no one here talks about calcs anymore
[07:32:34] < _Auron_> I called him last week and found this out
[07:32:39] < prime38> and maybe after that he died
[07:32:44] < prime38> that's what im assuming
[07:32:48] < moko|586> oh, I see.
[07:32:49] < _Auron_> he's dedicated to the calculator community until its bitter end, but he doesn't consider this channel a part of it anymore
[07:32:57] < moko|586> fair enough.
[07:33:06] < _Auron_> thus, "no point in going there"
[07:33:15] < prime38> did he say which ones he did consider part of it?
[07:33:21] < Nikky> none
[07:33:22] < _Auron_> no
[07:33:32] <+TimMc> fair enough
[07:33:37] < Nikky> what else is there?
[07:33:43] < _Auron_> he started on a rant about how bad TI's usb code and silent linking is, and how he was going to completely rewrite the silent link code and replace it in the OS
[07:33:43] <+TimMc> if discussion goes off topic, it goes waaaay off
[07:33:43] -!- moko|586 is now known as mokomull
[07:33:51] < mokomull> damnit, I haven't been helping my stats any!
[07:34:13] < prime38> i believe it tracks by host
[07:34:16] < Nikky> tigcc is ran by an egotisical ass who probably banned brandon anyway, and omnimaga is basically 14 year olds arguing about pokemon
[07:34:36] < Nikky> those are the only real other different channels that pretend to be calculator related
[07:34:48] < _Auron_> I don't think he really goes in calc channels anymore
[07:34:49] < _Auron_> just forums
[07:34:57] < Nikky> Yep
[07:35:24] < Nikky> I think the MOS rickroll thing really disappointed him too
[07:35:31] < Nikky> and I don't blame him
[07:35:37] < _Auron_> yeah
[07:35:55] < _Auron_> I'm probably going to be using this nick from now on
[07:35:58] < _Auron_> instead of DarkAuron
[07:36:14] < Nikky> any reason?
[07:36:19] < prime38> i have to ask, why have underscores around it?
[07:36:21] < Nikky> Or are you like _anykey_ :)
[07:36:31] < _Auron_> prime38: less chance of someone clashing nicks with me
[07:36:51] < Nikky> just use a nick mine mineee
[07:36:58] < Nikky> unique name, and never disconnect :)
[07:37:11] < mokomull> oh well, I'm off to bed.  'night guys.  Nice having a constructive conversation in here for once :P
[07:37:22] < _Auron_> yeah, you taught me some good stuff moko
[07:37:24] < _Auron_> thanks
[07:37:52] < Nikky> I love constructive converstations
[07:38:37] < Spengo> mos rickroll?
[07:40:14] < Spengo> that sounds like fail
[07:41:06] < Spengo> but brandon does need to lighten up a bit
[07:43:39] < _Auron_> er, weird.. what is stdafx.h?
[07:43:42] < Spengo> deal with the fail already, this is the internet after all, it's made of 99% fail
[07:43:48] < Spengo> lol _Auron_ 
[07:43:55] < Spengo> you have not used C much have you
[07:43:59] < _Auron_> no.. no I haven't.
[07:44:07] < _Auron_> but vc++ is telling me that header doesn't exist
[07:44:24]  * _Auron_ changes the "" to <>
[07:44:34] < Spengo> it's from visual studio
[07:44:35] < _Auron_> nope.
[07:44:45] < Spengo> it helps reduce compilation time
[07:44:57] < _Auron_> this book has a hello world windows program
[07:45:08] < _Auron_> and the only error I have is that header file doesn't exist
[07:45:12] < _Auron_> which is a problem
[07:45:35] < Spengo> see what happens if you balete it
[07:45:46] < Spengo> just delete #include "stdafx.h"
[07:46:05] < _Auron_> I get several errors
[07:46:17] < Spengo> are you including stdio or iostream?
[07:46:25] < _Auron_> no, I just copied exactly what was from the book
[07:46:58] < Spengo> o, your book wants you to be using visual studio
[07:47:08] < _Auron_> http://pastebin.com/d13816490
[07:47:08] < Spengo> I think stdafx includes iostream or stdio, but don't quote me on it
[07:47:13] < _Auron_> I installed visual studio 6.0
[07:47:18] < _Auron_> as that's what the book refers to
[07:47:27] < Spengo> orly and it can't find stdafx?
[07:47:27] < Spengo> weird
[07:47:39] < _Auron_> I only installed the c++ stuff
[07:47:46] < _Auron_> not visual basic or foxtrot or anything else
[07:47:55] < Spengo> I only have visual C++ on my computer too
[07:48:06] < _Auron_> but I installed from the studio enterprise copy :p
[07:48:07] < Spengo> except whatever's the latest version
[07:48:25] < Spengo> it doesn't matter though stdafx should be there
[07:48:26] < Spengo> wait
[07:48:35] < Spengo> when you started a new project
[07:48:42] < Spengo> did you select "precompiled header"?
[07:48:51] < Spengo> select "empty project"
[07:48:53] < Spengo> when you start a new one
[07:49:07] < Spengo> and forget this stdafx nonsense, just use regular stuff like iostream or stdio
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[07:50:00] <+TimMc> what's a good library for GUIs in C++?
[07:50:28]  * TimMc gets free Microsoft products via MSDNAA :-D
[07:50:33] < Spengo> also go download visual studio 9 or wahtever the latest is
[07:50:42] < Spengo> there is a free version
[07:50:59] < Spengo> "express" I think they call it
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[07:51:10] <+TimMc> Visual Studio 2008 Professional :D
[07:51:33] < Spengo> I should go download the pro from my msdnaa thing
[07:52:03] < Spengo> I saw it there but I already had C++ express installed
[07:52:03] < Spengo> so meh
[07:53:19] < Nikky> I don't code
[07:56:10] <+ports> yo
[07:56:12] < Nikky> Hi
[07:56:13] < _Auron_> express is free for 30 days
[07:56:25] <+ports> im now a college graduate :)
[07:56:32] < Nikky> he probly got it when it was free 4evah
[07:56:36] < Nikky> yay ports!
[07:56:42] < Nikky> now it's time to get a job :)
[07:56:43] < Spengo> _Auron_, eh?
[07:57:05] < _Auron_> Spengo: express wants you to buy it afte 30 days
[07:57:07] < Spengo> hmm... maybe I pirated an activation code...
[07:57:07] < _Auron_> after*
[07:57:14] < _Auron_> and I'm positive it's express
[07:57:19] < Spengo> it was a very long time ago
[07:57:30] < _Auron_> because someone told me it was free and I got it, but during installation it asked if I wanted to put in a serial or use 30 day trial
[07:57:40] < Spengo> I think I probably did, now that I think of it
[07:58:25] < Spengo> if I remember correctly there was a keygen that you input the name to register it to and it generates the key for it
[07:58:38] < Spengo> I put something like YOUR MOTHER
[07:59:20] <+ports> Nikky, it feels pretty good to know i wont have to wake up tomorrow and do homework for monday
[07:59:59] < Nikky> :)
[08:00:16] <+ports> are the core2duo quad core processors any good?
[08:00:39] < _Auron_> if you use all 4 cores
[08:00:59] < Spengo> doesn't that make it a core 2 quad?
[08:01:21] < _Auron_> it might just be two core2duos in one processor
[08:01:33] < Spengo> yeah that's basically all it is
[08:01:39] <+ports> yeah
[08:01:39] < Spengo> but that's pretty sweet nonetheless
[08:01:45] <+ports> but it has like 6mb of L2 cache
[08:01:51] < Spengo> yeah that too
[08:01:52] <+TimMc> core 2 duo is bleh
[08:01:59] < Spengo> um what?
[08:02:07] <+TimMc> T7200 in my laptop, isn't impressive
[08:02:16] <+TimMc> but i guess the HDD reads at something like 20 MB/s
[08:02:21] <+TimMc> heaps of bottlenecks :/
[08:02:39] < Spengo> that's kinda low end
[08:02:46] < Spengo> 2GHz, eh not so bad I guess
[08:03:06] < Spengo> 667MHz fsb though
[08:03:11] < Spengo> that might be the bottleneck
[08:03:13] <+TimMc> yeh
[08:03:23] <+TimMc> n 333 MHz (667) DDR2 ram
[08:03:30] < Spengo> mine has a stock FSB speed of 1066MHz
[08:03:44] < Spengo> and the new ones are 1600MHz I think
[08:03:56] <+TimMc> :O
[08:03:59] <+TimMc> laptop?
[08:04:04] < Spengo> no lol
[08:04:10] <+TimMc> my lappy gets up to 80 degrees o.o
[08:04:13] < Spengo> I dunno what the latest laptop ones look like
[08:04:17] <+TimMc> sometimes 90 :o
[08:04:19] < Spengo> yeah, don't overclock laptops
[08:04:20] < Spengo> lol
[08:04:25] <+TimMc> this is stock :p
[08:04:30] <+TimMc> it's nuts x.x
[08:04:31] < Spengo> mine's an old 2GHz pentium M
[08:04:39] < Spengo> and it heats up like crazy too
[08:04:47] < Spengo> usually not too bad when just browsing interbutts or something
[08:04:50] <+TimMc> i'd like some quad xeons :D
[08:04:53] < Spengo> but it also has a radeon x700 mobility in it
[08:04:56] < Spengo> and holy moly
[08:05:00] < Spengo> that thing gets hot when playing games
[08:05:06] < Spengo> like, DO NOT PUT ON YOUR LAP hot
[08:05:10] <+TimMc> ;p
[08:05:32] <+TimMc> x.x
[08:05:49] <+TimMc> bleh, i can't justify another laptop x.x
[08:05:56]  * TimMc wants a decent server...
[08:06:37] < Nikky> nykida.net/phpsysinfo
[08:07:29] < Spengo> if I got another laptop I'd get a tiny one
[08:07:36] < Spengo> maybe a thinkpad x300 or something
[08:08:24] <+ports> i have an hp dv2416us. ($600) 14.1" lcd, 2gb ram, 120gb hdd, 1.6ghz dual core. weighs like 4.1 lbs
[08:08:41] < Spengo> not bad
[08:08:46] < Spengo> how much battery life you get?
[08:08:57] <+ports> 2.5-3 hours
[08:09:12] <+ports> with wireless running
[08:09:13] < Spengo> eh, could be better, not terrible though
[08:09:45] <+ports> um thats awesome for me.. i used to get 90 minutes with a 8 lb laptop
[08:10:01] <+TimMc> ;p
[08:10:04] < Spengo> haha
[08:10:17] < Spengo> I have a 6lb laptop, gets about the same as what you said there
[08:10:40] < Spengo> only 1hr though if I'm playing a game lol
[08:10:48] < Spengo> stinking gpu sucks power too
[08:10:55] < _Auron_> I have a uh.. 2lb laptop
[08:10:59] <+TimMc> 3kg laptop @ 3-4 hours
[08:11:05] < Spengo> yeah you and your silly eeepc
[08:11:22] < Nikky> I thought about getting one of those new eeepcs
[08:11:27] <+TimMc> i cant justify getting an Eee PC ;p
[08:11:50] <+TimMc> too useless to develop programs on o.O
[08:12:06] < Spengo> I'd like something similar
[08:12:10] < Spengo> but it does not suit my tastes
[08:12:15] <+TimMc> i guess if i was in places here there weren't hundreds of computers accessible
[08:12:20] < Nikky> the original ones don't
[08:12:26] < Nikky> the eeepc 900 is getting closer
[08:12:34] < Spengo> I haven't looked at that one yet
[08:12:45] < Nikky> it has like a 1024x800 screen
[08:12:56] < Nikky> but I'd like to see the same physical sized screen with higher dpi
[08:13:11] < Spengo> yeah that would be nice
[08:13:17] < Spengo> adds to the price a lot though
[08:13:21] < Nikky> 1024 is getting close
[08:13:48] < Nikky> and it comes with 1gb ram 20gb SDD
[08:13:53] < Nikky> SSD
[08:13:54] < Nikky> >.>
[08:14:15] < Nikky> but meh
[08:14:22] < Nikky> still has that original CPU
[08:14:32] < Nikky> and batt life around 2.5hr
[08:14:40] <+TimMc> easier to use some CF cards ;p
[08:14:49] < Nikky> <3 CF
[08:15:10] < Spengo> CF is amaaaazing
[08:15:16] <+TimMc> i'd love a laptop running with 10 CF cards ;p
[08:15:24] <+TimMc> 8GB each :D
[08:15:26] < Nikky> I need some new CF cards
[08:15:35] < Nikky> mine are getting pretty slow
[08:20:19] < _Auron_> CF is bulky though
[08:20:25] <+TimMc> ;p
[08:20:34] <+TimMc> SD can bugger off ;p
[08:20:42] <+TimMc> then again o.O
[08:20:50] <+TimMc> which is faster and has more read/writes ? ;p
[08:22:39] < _Auron_> Spengo: apparently vc++ makes a stdafx.h when you make a winapp
[08:22:48] < Spengo> o
[08:22:54] < _Auron_> but a blank project obviously doesn't have that made
[08:23:34] < _Auron_> man
[08:23:41] < _Auron_> 156kb seems a lot for a simple hello world program ><
[08:26:04] <+TimMc> yeh
[08:26:21] < Spengo> lolwut?
[08:26:21] <+TimMc> unless it says hello world in 3d using OpenGL or something
[08:26:22] <+TimMc> o.O
[08:26:32] < _Auron_> it's hello world in a window, with no menu or anything
[08:26:55] < Spengo> I bet I can make it smaller
[08:27:12] < _Auron_> I don't know how to setup vc++ to compile optimally
[08:27:23] < _Auron_> I'm using whatever settings it has on install
[08:28:35] < _Auron_> apparently this is all the library modules it's using: kernel32.lib user32.lib gdi32.lib winspool.lib comdlg32.lib advapi32.lib shell32.lib ole32.lib oleaut32.lib uuid.lib odbc32.lib odbccp32.lib
[08:28:40] < Spengo> mine's 30kb
[08:28:46] < Spengo> 30KB I should say
[08:29:19] < _Auron_> how do you trim it down like that?
[08:30:09] < Spengo> http://rafb.net/p/LoK4f536.html
[08:30:54] < _Auron_> ....
[08:31:02] < _Auron_> I'm using a window
[08:31:09] < Nikky> _Auron_: Yes, but a lot more rugged.
[08:31:27] < Spengo> oh haha
[08:31:31] < Spengo> console apps ftw
[08:31:56] < Spengo> why do you need a window for hello world
[08:31:58] < Spengo> that's just too fancy
[08:32:19] < Nikky> for the windows API?
[08:33:30] < _Auron_> well
[08:33:37] < _Auron_> I just did a console app, using your code
[08:33:39] < _Auron_> it's 152kb.
[08:33:52] < _Auron_> it's a completely blank project except for main.cpp, which has that code
[08:33:53] < _Auron_> and that's it
[08:34:06] < _Auron_> so I have no idea why it's so large
[08:34:20] < Spengo> odd
[08:34:42] < Spengo> I used visual c++ express for that
[08:35:40] < Spengo> 30720 bytes to be precise
[08:36:28] < _Auron_> I can't find anything in google on how to fix this
[08:37:13] < Spengo> you started an empty project right?
[08:37:25] < _Auron_> yes
[08:37:56] < Spengo> I dunno ಠ_ಠ
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[08:39:29] < Spengo> you know
[08:39:49] < Spengo> I always think of dark archons when I see the nick darkauron
[08:41:54] < Spengo> kill some zerg
[08:42:02] < Spengo> I should go to sleep
[08:42:10] < Spengo> aaaaaaaaaavocado
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[08:42:49] < _Auron_> interesting
[08:42:58] < _Auron_> if I do a /O1 switch, it gets cut down to 88kb
[08:43:08] < _Auron_> still not that great though
[08:43:36] < _Auron_> I saw something where vc++6.0 compiled to 10kb
[08:43:40] < _Auron_> and the guy said that was too big
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[08:47:56] <+TimMc> yeh
[08:47:58] <+TimMc> hmm
[08:48:04] <+_krisk_> mmmmmm
[08:48:14] <+TimMc> should be like 2kb?
[08:48:18] < _Auron_> these are the project options: /nologo /MLd /W3 /GX /O1 /D "WIN32" /D "_DEBUG" /D "_CONSOLE" /D "_MBCS" /Fp"Debug/consolehello.pch" /YX /Fo"Debug/" /Fd"Debug/" /FD /c 
[08:48:32] < _Auron_> which are there by default
[08:48:48] <+_krisk_> not dark any more?
[08:48:50] <+TimMc> int main(void) { print("Hello World"); exit(0); }
[08:48:51] <+TimMc> or something
[08:49:05] <+TimMc> that the right command for exit? ;pppp
[08:49:07] < _Auron_> I selected under a menu minimize size, which added the /O1 option, which has incompatibilities with some other switches, so I removed those
[08:49:10] < _Auron_> that's what I have right now
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[08:49:36] < _Auron_> I believe it's return 0; :P
[08:49:59]  * _Auron_ uses only /O1
[08:50:17] < _Auron_> still 88kb
[08:50:34] < _Auron_> wai
[08:50:35] < _Auron_> wait*
[08:50:46] < _Auron_> now it's making a main.exe outside of the debug folder
[08:50:49] < _Auron_> 52kb
[08:55:40] < _Auron_> wtf
[08:55:46] < _Auron_> it makes consolehello.exe in \debug, which is 52kb
[08:55:52] < _Auron_> and it made a main.exe in the folder above that that's 28kb
[08:56:08]  * _Auron_ is still going through options
[08:59:33] < Nikky> Good luck with that. :)
[08:59:46] < Nikky> I'm going to sleep.
[09:00:19] < _Auron_> well that's nifty,
[09:00:29] < _Auron_> I can output the assembly code it comes up with
[09:00:45] < _Auron_> which is 43 lines of x86, mostly defines
[09:01:05] < _Auron_> only 5 actual lines of code
[09:01:21] <+_krisk_> are you coding a compiler or something?
[09:01:27] < _Auron_> O_o
[09:01:29] < _Auron_> no dude
[09:01:49] < _Auron_> I'm trying to figure out why a console app in c++ is coming out to be 50-150kb for a hello world program
[09:01:57] < _Auron_> when it shouldn't even really be 10kb
[09:02:04] <+_krisk_> hmm
[09:02:08] <+_krisk_> c++ emtadata?
[09:02:19] <+_krisk_> erm what compiled it?
[09:03:05] < _Auron_> visual c++ 6.0
[09:03:50] <+_krisk_> hmm maybe it put a default icon resource and stuff in it and some info describing that vc++6 compiled it and project info and stuff
[09:04:19] < _Auron_> gross?
[09:04:30] < _Auron_> oh wait, I was configuring the debug build
[09:04:36] < _Auron_> *messes with options for release build*
[09:04:49] <+_krisk_> does gc++ compile it to be much smaller?
[09:05:39] < _Auron_> I don't know?
[09:05:55] <+_krisk_> oh :P
[09:05:57] < _Auron_> I'm only using visual c++ 6.0 because the book I'm reading uses it
[09:06:03] <+_krisk_> makes sense
[09:06:11] <+_krisk_> might be worth comparing though
[09:06:13] < _Auron_> and trying to get code based on on compiler to work in another compiler when I barely know what I'm doing is just going to piss me off
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[09:07:52] <+_krisk_> yeah ok was just an idea. though hello world shouldnt be crazy different right? :P
[09:08:13] < _Auron_> er
[09:08:30] < _Auron_> I'm reading a book about coding in directx 
[09:08:52] <+_krisk_> ah hello world in directx
[09:09:02] <+_krisk_> ok
[09:09:04] < _Auron_> trying to figure out why I'm missing 50 billion different files for directx when using another compiler and not knowing how to setup the environement will seriously just confuse me if I don't follow the book
[09:09:10] < _Auron_> well not in directx right now
[09:09:19] < _Auron_> but I was wondering why a simple hello world program is 156kb
[09:09:25] < _Auron_> and I dove too much into it
[09:09:27] < _Auron_> bah oh well
[09:09:47] <+_krisk_> hehe
[09:11:11] < _Auron_> does logging out of an account in windows XP close the programs?
[09:11:33] <+_krisk_> yeah
[09:11:40] < _Auron_> damn
[09:11:52] <+_krisk_> you have to "change account" or something for them to keep running
[09:12:05] < _Auron_> eh I only have my account
[09:12:12] < _Auron_> plus I disabled the user switching service
[09:12:13] <+_krisk_> "switch user"
[09:12:14] <+_krisk_> ah
[09:12:22] <+_krisk_> me too
[09:12:27] < _Auron_> as I don't need it
[09:12:41] < _Auron_> I was just hoping I could log out of my account and have winamp still running
[09:13:00] <+_krisk_> i think winkey+l (lock user)  also suspends all apps because i couldnt connect to vnc with my desktop locked like that
[09:13:40] < _Auron_> mm
[09:13:53] < _Auron_> well I'm going to sleep
[09:13:56] <+_krisk_> k
[09:13:57] < _Auron_> and my friends are passed out in my room
[09:14:02] <+_krisk_> hehe
[09:14:26] < _Auron_> oh, lock user would work
[09:14:32] < _Auron_> winamp was still playing
[09:14:37] <+_krisk_> ah cool
[09:14:55] <+_krisk_> then my vnc is silly
[09:15:17] < _Auron_> maybe
[09:15:19] < _Auron_> night.
[09:15:23] <+_krisk_> bye
[09:23:08] <+TimMc> Xming + PuTTY FTW
[09:23:21] <+TimMc> Disconnect
[09:23:42] <+TimMc> @ Windows XP, you can disconnect the session if it's a server
[09:23:53] <+TimMc> otherwise, enable Fast User Switching
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[09:41:58] <+_krisk_> and then you encounter an app with a tray icon
[09:41:59] <+_krisk_> oops
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[10:11:23] <@efneTI92> [DSP_Lord] *waves hand* You will give me +v.
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[10:31:16] <@efneTI92> [rivereye] Is it time to go fishing?
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[10:34:29] <+_krisk_> what would be the fastest way of getting a little 2d game up and running?
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[10:45:12] <@efneTI92> [Leofox] All we do in hell is play DDR!
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[11:21:53] <+_krisk_> bluh
[11:30:10] <+_krisk_> hmm what rpg lets you play a char with dual wielding and some kind of rage ability? preferabbly suitable for nice min/maxing
[11:30:12] <+_krisk_> im bored
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[11:59:55] < Barrett> happy morning
[12:00:01] <+_krisk_> lu
[12:00:42] < Barrett> there should be a law about having to wake up before 6
[12:00:48] <+_krisk_> jup
[12:00:54] <+_krisk_> only change it to 8-9
[12:24:07] <@E-J> http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/627/1210360596835pa3.jpg
[12:31:01] < Barrett> what a clean mouse
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[12:56:07] <+TimMc>  arg
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[13:11:18] <@efneTI92> [Dauron] We called it Sin.
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[13:27:53] <+TimMc> char** argv
[13:27:56] <+TimMc> blarg
[13:28:27] <+_krisk_> hi
[13:28:30] <+TimMc> heya
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[15:36:15] <@efneTI92> [Cricket_B] Chirp! Chirp! Chirp!
[15:37:19] < Cricket_B> Anyone awake?
[15:37:28] <+_krisk_> yo
[15:37:43] < Cricket_B> Anyone else?
[15:38:29] < Cricket_B> _krisk_, what model calculator do you own
[15:38:35] <+_krisk_> ?
[15:39:13] < Cricket_B> What calculator model?
[15:39:31] <+_krisk_> i dont own any calculator things
[15:39:42] < Cricket_B> Then why are you even here?
[15:40:03] <+_krisk_> internet relay chat?
[15:40:37] < Cricket_B> This is #tcpa , which stands for Ti Calculator Programming Area
[15:40:44] <+_krisk_> ok
[15:40:45] < Cricket_B> You need a TI calculator
[15:41:00] <@Andy_J> *Alliance
[15:41:03] < Cricket_B> How did you even get voice without a calc?
[15:41:05] <@Andy_J> Get the initialism right.
[15:41:10] < Cricket_B> Thanks, Andy_J
[15:41:14] <@Andy_J> By being here for years.
[15:41:40] <+_krisk_> :O i have voice
[15:41:52] < Cricket_B> Not really busy in the morning, is it?
[15:42:05] <@Andy_J> Of course not.
[15:42:18] <@Andy_J> Everyone's working off the hangover from Friday night parties.
[15:42:25] <@Andy_J> *Saturday
[15:44:30] < Cricket_B> BrandonW didn't respond to my e-mail yet
[15:44:48] < Cricket_B> I hope he decides to come back...
[15:47:40] < Cricket_B> _krisk_, do you own a Nintendo DS?
[15:48:01] <+_krisk_> nope
[15:48:08] < Cricket_B> :(
[15:48:41] < Cricket_B> What DO you own?
[15:50:41] < Cricket_B> _krisk_, I'm pinging you to test lag
[15:50:59] < Cricket_B> ...I'm lagging more than you are
[15:51:00] <+_krisk_> hmm some clothes, shaving stuff, contacts, gym subscription, supplements, phone, pc, 2 amps, some club range speakers, aaaannnd a tv
[15:51:21] < Cricket_B> What? No kitchen sink?
[15:51:32] <+_krisk_> maybe one day
[15:52:14] < Cricket_B> ANY sink?
[15:52:35] <+_krisk_> first i need to own a place to put a sink in
[15:52:44] <+_krisk_> or rent
[15:52:53] < Cricket_B> ...Where did you put the computer?
[15:52:58] <+_krisk_> a room
[15:53:09] < Cricket_B> Where? YMCA?
[15:53:19] <+_krisk_> thats us gym chain right?
[15:53:30] < Cricket_B> IDK
[15:53:48] <+_krisk_> anyway, i live with my parents
[15:54:08] < Cricket_B> Oh...so I guess you own a kitchen sink, then...
[15:54:12] <+_krisk_> well not my own
[15:54:20] < Cricket_B> In a way, you own things in your house
[15:54:34] <+_krisk_> its not my house
[15:54:46] < Cricket_B> *the house you live in
[15:55:05] <+_krisk_> hmm maybe in a way
[15:55:17] <+_krisk_> i suppose i dont see it that way though, evidently
[15:55:51] <+_krisk_> hopefully the job offer i got will work out soon and ill get a place this summer
[15:56:14] <+_krisk_> kind of sick off getting screwed over with work/colelge things by people
[15:58:49] <+_krisk_> but from where this interest in my belongings?
[15:59:17] < Cricket_B> You didn't own a DS not a calclator
[15:59:26] < Cricket_B> *nor
[15:59:52] <+_krisk_> i used a calc in high school for a while when that was nessecary
[15:59:57] <+_krisk_> i think it was a year or so
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[16:09:20] <@efneTI92> [Merthsoft] Heat, time, and pressure; the things needed to make diamonds also make waffles.
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[16:28:10] <@efneTI92> [Merth] Heat, time, and pressure; the things needed to make diamonds also make waffles.
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[16:58:33] <@efneTI92> [Spengo] En Taro Adun, Executor
[17:00:28] < Spengo> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfm_z-Ir1tM
[17:00:28] < Spengo> :D
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[17:23:50] <@efneTI92> [TimMc] TimMc is solving the Rubik's Cube in 26.34 seconds!
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[17:24:02] <+TimMc> heya
[17:26:46] <+_krisk_> hi
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[17:53:47] < Nikky> lolz
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[18:19:49] < mrfree> hi all
[18:20:33] < mrfree> I've a TI-80 and I need bin,hex,dec converter... I think it doesn't support it natively, does it?
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[18:35:42] < Netham45> http://images.amazon.com/images/P/091629188X.01.LZZZZZZZ.gif
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[19:09:54] <@E-J> mrfree: well, i think you can find one from ticalc if calc doesn't support those, because it's very easy to make program that makes conversions
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[19:26:03] <@efneTI92> [DSPLord] *waves hand* You will give me +v.
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[20:03:40] < Nikky> devil wears prada... what a great movie
[20:25:51] <@E-J> i curently watch movie called usa vs finland
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[20:27:28] <@efneTI92> [DSPLord] *waves hand* You will give me +v.
[20:27:39] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v DSPLord] by efneTI92
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[20:35:15] <+Michael_V> Greetings...I come to plug a TI-84 Plus auction
[20:35:15] <+Michael_V> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250247123806
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[20:36:02] <@efneTI92> [Tari] Remember, remember the 5th of November
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[20:36:14] < chronomex> what sort of idiot will buy that calculator?
[20:36:27] <+Tari> Randomist?
[20:37:04] <+_krisk_> fail troll is fail, anyone who wants it obviously
[20:38:34] <+Michael_V> Do only idiots buy TI-84 Pluses?
[20:38:53] < chronomex> yes
[20:38:59] < chronomex> like brandon
[20:39:01] <+Michael_V> Those are fighting words
[20:40:19] < prime38> ebay is fail
[20:40:26] < chronomex> okay
[20:40:28] < chronomex> lets' fight
[20:40:28] < Nikky> ebay sucks
[20:40:32] < chronomex> you come up here, Michael_V
[20:40:39] <+_krisk_> trolls are fail
[20:40:44] < Nikky> ew, we don't want him in washington
[20:40:51] < chronomex> Nikky: sorry
[20:40:54] <+Michael_V> Don't worry, I hate rain
[20:40:57] <+Michael_V> I'm not going there
[20:41:03] < Nikky> meet in Idaho or something
[20:41:09] < chronomex> what sort of weirdo are you
[20:41:09] <+Michael_V> Idaho is cool
[20:41:11] < chronomex> hate rain ...
[20:41:18] <+Michael_V> We can stop at some paramilitary compounds in the middle of nowhere along the way
[20:41:22] < Nikky> who hates rain
[20:41:26] <+Michael_V> I do
[20:41:30] < Nikky> terrorists, that's who
[20:41:44] <+Michael_V> Ah, you've uncovered my diabolical cloud seeding terrorist plot.
[20:41:51] <+_krisk_> gothics
[20:41:53] <+Michael_V> I intend to divert all the rain to Mexico
[20:42:11] < chronomex> why?
[20:42:26] < chronomex> they've got enough of a drainage problem in mexico city as it is
[20:42:49] <+Tari> so he can save money by not getting his secret lair re-roofed
[20:42:58] < chronomex> mhm
[20:45:42] < Dauron> man
[20:45:51] < Dauron> I laid in bed for 4 hours coughing and watched the sun rise
[20:45:52] <+_krisk_> dauron sup with the cool nickchange?
[20:45:54] < Dauron> that sucked :/
[20:45:56] <+_krisk_> aw: (
[20:46:03] -!- Dauron is now known as _Auron_
[20:46:13] < _Auron_> I've got bronchitis
[20:47:25] <+Michael_V> i've got rhythm
[20:47:29] <+Michael_V> who could ask for anything more?
[20:47:30] <@E-J> _Auron_: why not darkauron?
[20:47:47] < _Auron_> I don't feel like being dark anymore
[20:47:51] <+_krisk_> i only ask for a cute alt/goth/metalchick :{
[20:47:54] <@E-J> ach
[20:48:04] < _Auron_> DarkAuron is kindof an emo name really
[20:49:14] <@E-J> so, you have been years darkauron and now it's emo name
[20:49:31] < _Auron_> yes
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[20:49:46]  * _Auron_ blinks
[20:49:47] <@E-J> little more selfesteem
[20:50:15] <+_krisk_> or less if its under the pressure of not wanting to appear emo
[20:50:18] < _Nikky_> hmm
[20:50:28] < _Nikky_> appearentally that server didn't like that nick
[20:50:28] < _Nikky_> :)
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[20:50:36] < _prime38_> i can do it too
[20:50:39] <+TD-Linux> so what's with the _thing_?
[20:50:46] <+TD-Linux> I can't do it :(
[20:50:51] < _Auron_> TD-Linux: the word Auron is used quite a lot
[20:50:51] < _Nikky_> fail
[20:50:54] <+_krisk_> i had it first ~_~
[20:51:05] < _Nikky_> _krisk_: no, _anykey_ did
[20:51:06] < _Nikky_> fail
[20:51:19] < _Auron_> having underscores lessens the chance of nick clash
[20:51:20] < _Nikky_> !seen _anykey_
[20:51:22] <@efneTI86> _AnyKey_ (~Eric@adsl-66-143-173-169.dsl.austtx.swbell.net) was last seen quitting from #ti 264 days, 4 hours, 15 minutes ago stating (Quit: http://eric.woodtx.com <-- go there).
[20:51:27] < _prime38_> !seen _*_
[20:51:29] <@efneTI86> No matches were found.
[20:51:33] <+_krisk_> anykey isnt here anymore so that doesnt count
[20:51:41] < _Auron_> having a single underscore doesn't seem natural, so I used two
[20:51:49] <+_krisk_> i need the __ because someone already hijacked krisk
[20:51:50] < _Nikky_> !seen _*_!*
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[20:51:53] <@efneTI86> I found 96 matches to your query.  Here are the 5 most recent (sorted): _prime38_ _Nikky_ _Auron_ _krisk_ _3fg_. _prime38_ (~prime38@adsl-75-57-189-22.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) was last seen changing nicks from prime38 on #tcpa 1 minute ago. _prime38_ is still there.
[20:51:55] <@efneTI92> [Sir_Lewk] Give me a biscuit, I will do science to it
[20:51:56] <+TD-Linux> plus it gets you to the top of my nicklist ?
[20:52:15] < _Auron_> TD-Linux: that's your fault for setting your nicklist alphabetical :)
[20:52:48] <+_krisk_> could also be ordered by mode first then alphabetically
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[20:52:56] <+krisk> wewt
[20:55:30] < mokomull> and that's why I normally don't even *see* a nicklist =)
[20:56:03] <+krisk> i have it so i can see if leofox is in here without doign silly commands
[20:56:23] < mokomull> /n ?
[20:56:36] <+krisk> N Unknown command
[20:56:41] < _Nikky_>  /n rules
[20:56:54] < mokomull> _Nikky_: lrn2useirssi
[20:57:13] < mokomull> / /n gives you "/n" instead of " /n" =P
[20:57:45] < chronomex> mokomull++
[20:57:55] < mokomull> yay I'm now two people!
[20:58:17] < chronomex> or rather "mokomulm"
[20:58:26] < mokomull> perhaps
[20:58:27] < _prime38_> hahah
[20:58:42] < Sir_Lewk> w00t, two days
[20:59:39] < mokomull> two days?
[21:00:16] < Sir_Lewk> until jesus comes
[21:00:19] < Sir_Lewk> *fedora 9
[21:00:23] < Sir_Lewk> typo
[21:02:08] < Sir_Lewk> also, on a more sad note, this means I only have 2 days left with KDE 3.5 :`(
[21:03:28] < _Auron_> I'm charging my snot lazers
[21:03:47] < mokomull> just a question: what do you like about Fedora.  I've always had trouble finding packages for media codecs and shit for it.
[21:04:45] < Sir_Lewk> well they are all in the livna repos, if you enable them it's as easy as any other distro
[21:05:02] <+krisk> im also having a case of excessive snots
[21:05:25] < Sir_Lewk> really I just like their builds, I never feel like I have to build a program from source myself to get functionality (I had this issue with Ubuntu)
[21:05:39] < Sir_Lewk> and it's easy as hell to administer from the CLI
[21:06:17] < Sir_Lewk> yum is a PITA but you can easily use apt-get
[21:07:03] < Sir_Lewk> and (unlike ubuntu) it doesn't feel like KDE is a second class citizen
[21:07:32] <+TD-Linux> yum is easier to use then apt
[21:07:38] <+TD-Linux> yum whatprovides ftw
[21:07:56] < mokomull> I agree, but apt/deb is faster and more powerful IMHO.
[21:08:01] < Sir_Lewk> yeah, I personally prefer it to apt-get
[21:08:09] <+TD-Linux> also I agree ubuntu has major packaging issues for several common programs
[21:08:28] <+TD-Linux> but I'm using kubuntu right now anyway
[21:08:29] < Sir_Lewk> a while ago vim didn't have color support :O
[21:08:30] < mokomull> Actually, the ones that affect me most are packaging problems all the way back to Debian.
[21:08:43] <+TD-Linux> oh yeah, can't forget fedora boot screen > usplash
[21:09:03] <+TD-Linux> mokomull, a lot of mine are solved by using the debian packages :P
[21:09:05] < mokomull> I hate boot all splashes with a passion, actually.
[21:09:23] <+TD-Linux> fedora's looks pretty and gives you a terminal
[21:09:37] <+TD-Linux> usplash used to be okay but then they removed the terminal text-like part
[21:09:40] < mokomull> TD-Linux: Well, the one main one I see right now is the XMonad window manager was built in Debian without Xinerama support, which gets me in Ubuntu too.
[21:09:50] < Sir_Lewk> I generally disable them, fedora's at least lets you see what is happening though
[21:09:54] < mokomull> yeah
[21:09:58] <+TD-Linux> my main one is laptop-mode-tools
[21:10:06] < mokomull> what's wrong with laptop-mode-tools?
[21:10:13] <+TD-Linux> ubuntu killed it to mesh with their acpi-support
[21:10:26] <+TD-Linux> all of its settings to say when laptop mode is on don't work
[21:10:33] < mokomull> interesting.
[21:10:45] <+TD-Linux> you have to edit some acpi-support config file instead, and then it only lets you use laptop mode when it's on battery
[21:10:50] < _prime38_> +3 internet points if you can find me a replacement graphics card for a toshiba m50 laptop
[21:11:06] <+TD-Linux> versus debian laptop-mode-tools lets you run it, say, when it's on AC power, or when on AC power and lid's closed
[21:11:19] < mokomull> I do know the Ubuntu ACPI shit is confusing beyond all end.
[21:12:14] <+krisk> graphics card for laptop?
[21:12:25] < _prime38_> yea...
[21:12:29] < _prime38_> its a seperate board
[21:13:12] < _prime38_> ill even take a main board with integrated graphics if it supports a pentium m processor
[21:14:58] < mokomull> I might try Fedora once I get to Seattle.
[21:18:47] <+krisk> bah stupid hihg humidity summers
[21:19:19] < _Auron_> apparently me explaining that cso is compressed, and games will slow down because they have to decompress in-game, results in me being banned
[21:19:22] < _Auron_> I fucking hate IRC.
[21:19:45] <+krisk> well how could you!?
[21:19:54] < _Auron_> too many assholes more worried about their e-penis throbbing than someone trying to help
[21:20:01] < chronomex> 1o
[21:20:01] < chronomex> dc: output base must be a number greater than 1
[21:20:03] < chronomex> awww
[21:20:04] < _prime38_> what channel?
[21:20:17] < _Auron_> doesn't matter
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[21:20:39] <+krisk> hi
[21:23:57] <+Michael_V> <krisk> bah stupid hihg humidity summers
[21:24:01] <+Michael_V> now we see why I said I hate rain
[21:24:11] <+Michael_V> For where there is rain, there is moisture
[21:24:45]  * Michael_V notes he's also selling an Athlon XP 3000+ and Gigabyte motherboard on ebay (with SATA RAID, SPDIF, Firewire, and all the goodies)
[21:24:57] <+krisk> i like rain
[21:25:03] < _prime38_> what model mobo?
[21:25:13] <+krisk> tends to cool things down a bit
[21:25:19] <+Michael_V> GA-7N400 Pro2
[21:25:20] < _prime38_> probably one with a athlon socket :x
[21:25:22] <+krisk> anything but these stupid sucky dutch summers
[21:25:31] <+Michael_V> It's socket A
[21:25:43] < _Auron_> I got my new debit card in the mail, although the envelope was in a drawer in the kitchen, and we have no idea how long it's been there
[21:25:46] < _Auron_> obviously didn't get here today
[21:25:59] < _Auron_> my friend's mother put it in there
[21:26:13] <+krisk> handy
[21:26:33] < _Auron_> and my friend luckily found it when he was making tortillas, thought it was some mail she didn't read, but saw my name on it
[21:26:36] < _Auron_> how nice :|
[21:26:42] < _Auron_> it's probably been there for a week -_-
[21:26:49] <+Michael_V> Use today (Mother's Day) to berate her about it
[21:26:53] < _Auron_> well
[21:26:59] <+krisk> lulz
[21:26:59] < Sir_Lewk> oh shit
[21:27:00] <+Michael_V> Make her feel worthless and emotionally empty
[21:27:04] < Sir_Lewk> today is mothers day?
[21:27:07] < _Auron_> um
[21:27:08] <+Michael_V> yes
[21:27:09] <@E-J> yes
[21:27:09] < _Auron_> my friends went to a club last night and they used doug's van to get to dallas
[21:27:12] < Sir_Lewk> crap
[21:27:14] < _Auron_> she came home from work at 2am
[21:27:19] <+Michael_V> Have I just saved you from your mother?
[21:27:22] <+Michael_V> That'll be a $5 reminder fee
[21:27:22] < _Auron_> thinking that doug was missing, but everyone else was here
[21:27:30] < Sir_Lewk> I hope so ;)
[21:27:34] < _Auron_> so she was freaking out thinking he might be in the hospital or something
[21:27:53] < _Auron_> and she was pissed off at him because he forgot to bring his cell with him and he obviously wasn't able to pick up when she called
[21:28:11] <+krisk> i hate it when people dont answer their phones
[21:28:16] < _Auron_> she also magically finds a way to be super-pissed off at him on every one of his birthdays
[21:28:27] <+krisk> lulz
[21:28:29] < _Auron_> so yes
[21:28:33] < _Auron_> holidays are complete hell here
[21:28:43] < _Auron_> he got her a bunch of red tulips and a card 
[21:28:49] < _Auron_> she either didn't notice or ignored out of spite from last night
[21:28:57] < _Auron_> as he put that in the middle of the kitchen
[21:29:43] <+Michael_V> A red strobe light would have been a better gift
[21:29:45] < _Auron_> in the end, she tends to find reasons to be a bitch
[21:29:48] <+Michael_V> It prevents not noticing
[21:29:48]  * _Auron_ sighs
[21:30:03] < _Auron_> Michael_V: that'd just tick her off I bet.
[21:30:08] <+Michael_V> Or give her a seizure
[21:30:11] <+Michael_V> Perhaps he'd prefer that
[21:30:23] < _Auron_> I should tell him that. :D
[21:30:29]  * Michael_V notes he's getting very refined in his bitter and witty comments
[21:30:31] <+Michael_V> This is scaring me
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[21:30:49] < tifreak27> lol
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[21:31:55] <+patz2009> !seen BrandonW
[21:31:57] <@efneTI86> BrandonW (~calcmaste@24-158-198-153.dhcp.kgpt.tn.charter.com) was last seen quitting from #tcpa 25 days, 15 hours, 45 minutes ago stating ().
[21:32:06] < Sir_Lewk> this is very troubling
[21:32:07] <+patz2009> holy crap, where has he been?
[21:32:25] < Sir_Lewk> TI wacked him
[21:32:29] < _prime38_> ohh man, it feels like he has been gone for 25 days 16 hours....:(((((
[21:32:55] <+patz2009> he had it coming though...
[21:32:56] <+krisk> wacked?
[21:33:06] <+Michael_V> whacked
[21:33:16] <+krisk> fired?
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[21:33:39] <+Michael_V> No, assassinated by contract
[21:33:43] <+krisk> ah
[21:33:50] <+Michael_V> If I did such things, I think I'd leave a pocket dictionary in the pocket of each of my victims
[21:34:03] < chronomex> just to screw with their heirs?
[21:34:19] <+Michael_V> No, because I really care about proper spelling and grammar.
[21:34:39] < chronomex> I've noticed
[21:35:37] <@E-J> Michael_V: even when foreign people make mistakes?
[21:35:45] <+Michael_V> yes
[21:35:57] <+Michael_V> You simply should be exempt from execution.
[21:36:07] <+Michael_V> Initially, anyway.
[21:36:14]  * chronomex hugs E-J
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[21:39:45] <@E-J> but i should mention usa was on lead 2-0 on ice hockey against finland and now it's 2-3 for finland \o/
[21:40:02] <+Michael_V> I don't care either way :)
[21:40:07] <+Michael_V> and I used to play ice hockey
[21:40:34] < Sir_Lewk> I suck at ice skating :(
[21:40:37] <@E-J> Michael_V: forward, defence or goalie?
[21:40:40] < chronomex> I used to know someone who played it
[21:40:45] <@E-J> Sir_Lewk: me too, but i like to watch
[21:40:56] <+Michael_V> defense
[21:41:29] <@E-J> ok
[21:41:43] <+Michael_V> when I go to a public skating rink now I skate circles around everyone else of course
[21:41:57] <+Michael_V> although I have to use hockey skates...I can't skate at all in normal ones
[21:42:20] <@E-J> hockey skates look cooler
[21:42:32] <+Michael_V> Then the manager usually tells me that parents are complaining that I'm skating too fast around their children
[21:42:46] <@E-J> finland's first goal went in through side net but the referee accepted it
[21:42:47] <+Michael_V> but the manager realizes that I'm much safer than the children who are falling everywhere and so doesn't do anything
[21:43:07] <+Michael_V> rather amusing
[21:43:07] < Sir_Lewk> lol
[21:43:19] <+Michael_V> last time he told me explicitly he was just out on the ice so it looked like he was warning me
[21:43:28] <+Michael_V> for whatever parents were watching
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[21:43:51] < Sir_Lewk> haha
[21:43:58] < Sir_Lewk> you should get a job there
[21:44:04] < Sir_Lewk> catching people who fall
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[21:44:49] <@E-J> Michael_V: btw why did you quit?
[21:45:23] <+Michael_V> I don't know; I just lost interest I guess
[21:45:24] < Damakaru> Michael_V:  I sent request for password change twice on Ticalc, but I never got an e-mail.
[21:45:28] <@E-J> ok
[21:45:33] <+Michael_V> I started these sports when I was 5 or so
[21:45:46] <+Michael_V> I played ice hockey, tennis, and soccer at various times
[21:45:53] <+Michael_V> 4 years of ice hockey I think
[21:46:09] <+Michael_V> I was awful at tennis
[21:46:32] <+Michael_V> I couldn't serve in the opposing square with anything even remotely approaching consistency
[21:47:56] <@E-J> and now game is over, and they fight
[21:48:02] <@E-J> finland won
[21:48:40] <+Michael_V> yay finland
[21:48:46] <+Michael_V> I have no national pride in sports
[21:49:40] <@E-J> and now ice hockey hall dj plays eye of the tiger
[21:50:06] <+Michael_V> I'd probably like to visit finland, norway, and particularly sweden (so I could see the ticalc.org server)
[21:50:28] < Damakaru> Ticalc is hosted in SwedeD?
[21:50:32] < Damakaru> * Sweden
[21:50:35] <+Michael_V> ...yes
[21:50:37] <@E-J> "here is photo: 'me and ticalc server'"
[21:50:49] <+Michael_V> I guess it's not obvious from all of the Swedish jokes I've inserted through the years
[21:50:54] <+Michael_V> Or the pages that mention it
[21:51:34] <+Michael_V> I still remember when I was very sick one time and I happened to watch "Travels in Europe with Rick Steves" right before I went to bed and he was in one of the nordic countries
[21:51:42] < _prime38_> rickrolling is swedish?
[21:51:44] <+Michael_V> and I had a strange dream about wooden Viking ships and museums and things
[21:51:56] <+Michael_V> no
[21:52:02] <+Michael_V> Rick Steves is the host of a travel show on PBS
[21:52:07] <+Michael_V> He used to have awesome glasses
[21:53:13] <@E-J> Michael_V: summer might be little cold for you (+25C max) but length of day is 17 to 24 hours
[21:53:53]  * Merthsoft just watched 30 days of night
[21:54:16] < chronomex> E-J: sounds perfect for me
[21:54:18] <+Michael_V> 25 C is fine :)
[21:54:22] < chronomex> 25C is ideal
[21:54:26] < chronomex> bit warm though
[21:54:40] <@E-J> 20C is ideal
[21:54:41] < _prime38_> 17-24 hours, i am awake for 17-14 hours most days anyways
[21:54:44] <+Michael_V> besides, I'm not going to be living there
[21:54:49] < _prime38_> i mean 24
[21:55:16] < Damakaru> I thought the password thing was full-automatic on Ticalc?
[21:55:23] < Damakaru> Maybe I put in the wrong e-mail.
[21:56:15] < _prime38_> does anyone know the purpose of the account verification featre
[21:56:21] < _prime38_> on ticalc.org
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[22:26:41] <@efneTI92> [Cricket_B] Chirp! Chirp! Chirp!
[22:26:48] < Cricket_B> I'm only here for a short time
[22:26:57] < Cricket_B> I'm on the Java webchat
[22:27:35] < Cricket_B> Anyone need TI83/84 help?
[22:28:10] < Cricket_B> Do any of you even hear me?
[22:28:39] < Calgar> dunno, i don't even have either of those
[22:28:53] < Cricket_B> Good, I have bidirectional communication
[22:29:20] < Cricket_B> Is Andy_J in?
[22:30:00] < Cricket_B> Guess not...
[22:30:15] < Cricket_B> Well, I'm staying until my sisters stop The Sims
[22:30:25] <@Andy_J> lrn2/whois
[22:30:25] <@Andy_J> 18:29:41 [EFNet] -!-  idle     : 0 days 6 hours 47 mins 53 secs [signon: Thu May  8 23:17:23 2008]
[22:30:28] < Cricket_B> Then I'm leaving and coming back on PIRCH
[22:30:58] < Cricket_B> ...what was that about?
[22:31:11] < Cricket_B> :D
[22:31:31]  * Cricket_B likes the Courier New font in IRC
[22:32:12] < Cricket_B> Well, Andy_J, have any idea how to find out the hosting application for a keyhook?
[22:32:25] < Cricket_B> I might end up making Hookman
[22:33:13] <+Merthsoft> wow, you kinda just ramble about, don't you?
[22:34:07] <+krisk> can i ask you guys something seriously?
[22:34:24] <+tifreak> i dunno, can you? :P
[22:34:30] <+krisk> well i can try i suppose
[22:34:51] <+Merthsoft> go ahead
[22:35:26] < Cricket_B> bye!
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[22:36:06] < chronomex> aw I watned to !k
[22:36:49] <+krisk> the last two semesters were dedicated to doing some classes to catch back up to what i was trailing behind.
[22:36:52] <+krisk>  had some serious motivation issues for college because of some stuff so it was already quite something that i was seriously trying to fix finishing college.
[22:37:59] <+krisk> but at the end of the first semester i missed 2 examns due to failing public transport ._. and at the of this one i had 2 assignments to do one of which i got kicked out of because my team member already did the assignment by himself because he thought i didnt want to work on it (without asking me lulz thanks for screwing me over)
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[22:39:25] <+krisk> I will have to do those examns again in august, but the assignments may still be possible before summer if I do all of them by myself (other assignments were also screwed up, due to team members not doing what they should) and just hand them in hoping the teachers say ok then.
[22:41:10] <+krisk> so what im trying to figure out is shall i just call it an early summer vacation to fix some personal things and redo colelge stuff after summer as my teachers currently expect me to do, work my ass off for those assignments have a boring busy bunch of weeks and hope they say ok
[22:41:24] <+krisk> *, or ..
[22:45:29] < Sir_Lewk> http://www.conceptart.org/?artist=sparth
[22:45:37] < Sir_Lewk> I wish I could draw like that :O
[22:48:02] <+krisk> or shall i just be ignored on irc :O
[22:48:23] <+krisk> yeah drawing is awesome, takes ages to finish anything like that though
[22:48:27] <@E-J> this is sparth?
[22:48:32] < Sir_Lewk> lol
[22:48:47] < Sir_Lewk> some of those are fscking incredible though
[22:48:50] <+krisk> yeah
[22:48:55] < Calgar> that sucks... i always hated group assignments... luckily they arn't used much in the UK for anything that matters
[22:49:44] <+krisk> if my first year of colelge went like this i wouldve quit but this is my final year, bit of a waste to quit now over that bullshit
[22:49:54] <+krisk> but im also icnreadibly tired of it all
[22:49:57] < Sir_Lewk> http://www.conceptart.org/artimg/image.php?img=sparth/full/sparth-20.jpg  Particularly fond of this one
[22:50:40] < prime38> that one looks not yet finished
[22:51:00] <+krisk> its probably centered to the hat/top of the hat details, the rest isnt important so left like that
[22:51:01] < prime38> like on the arms/sholders
[22:51:16] <+krisk> you know, just for a concept of the helmet item or something
[22:51:34] <+krisk> or he got tired of it and uploaded that as it is :P
[22:51:52] < prime38> krisk: i would keep at it
[22:52:04] < prime38> your school must have counselors
[22:52:09] < prime38> for this type of thing
[22:52:20] <+krisk> what would they do?
[22:52:44] < prime38> well, they specialize in handling problems like this
[22:52:52] < prime38> they know all the options
[22:53:09] < prime38> and help you weigh each one out
[22:53:22] <+krisk> well i know others who have used such people and im pretty sure i know all the options
[22:53:35] <+krisk> in fact, doing it all now probably isnt even one
[22:56:48] <+krisk> but i guess it boils down to going to class tomorrow or not
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[23:19:07] < Barrett> JoelS: have they fixed facebook chat for IE7 emulated in IE8?
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[23:31:46] <@efneTI92> [Cricket_B] Chirp! Chirp! Chirp!
[23:31:53] < Cricket_B> Quick question
[23:32:06] < Cricket_B> Where would I learn about keyhooks?
[23:33:02] < Cricket_B> Anyone know?
[23:33:54] < chronomex> wikiti?
[23:33:55] < Cricket_B> Andy_J?
[23:34:35] < Cricket_B> What exact page?
[23:35:14] < chronomex> use the search function
[23:35:17] < chronomex> !k Cricket_B jfgi
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[23:36:12] < Spengo> ...
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[23:36:15] < Cricket_B> No relavent results were found by either search system
[23:36:50] < Cricket_B> WikiTI's 'most relevant' result was BCALL 4027
[23:37:15] < Cricket_B> I can't find any tutorials online
[23:37:29] < Cricket_B> (at least not before the trash results)
[23:37:34] < chronomex> Baby Jesus doesn't want you to know.
[23:38:08] < Cricket_B> Can you stop being mean to me?
[23:38:11] < chronomex> !k Cricket_B You make me cry, get out of my internets now please.
[23:38:11] < chronomex> no
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[23:38:33] < Cricket_B> Too bad I'm not logging...
[23:38:34] < chronomex> No, I was born to be mean to you
[23:38:34] < chronomex> it's mu pyrtose oi lf
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[23:38:39] < chronomex> it's my purpose in life
[23:38:52] < chronomex> damn line noise
[23:39:00] < Spengo> what
[23:39:16] < Cricket_B> Who are you asking? me?
[23:39:20] < chronomex> DAMN LINE NOISE
[23:39:21] < Spengo> ಠ_ಠ
[23:39:24] < chronomex> can you heaar me now?
[23:40:09] <+Merthsoft> chronomex: your assholery is probably more annoying than Cricket_B's idiocy and rambling
[23:40:35] < Cricket_B> Spengo, do you know where I can find a keyhook tutorial relating to the 83+?
[23:40:41] < chronomex> sorry Merthsoft 
[23:40:45] < Spengo> sorry, I do not
[23:40:58] <@Andy_J> If you know this much about hookman you should at least know where to find its current source code.
[23:41:02] < Cricket_B> Merthsoft, do you?
[23:41:03] <@Andy_J> Nobody tell him.
[23:41:15] <+Merthsoft> i know nother
[23:41:17] <+Merthsoft> nother*
[23:41:18] <+Merthsoft> dam
[23:41:19] <+Merthsoft> n
[23:41:22] <+Merthsoft> nothing*
[23:41:22] < Spengo> nother?
[23:41:28] <+Merthsoft> christ
[23:41:37] < Cricket_B> Andy_J, I only know as much as I've heard on the channel
[23:41:45] <@Andy_J> just fucking google it.
[23:41:54] < Spengo> hate to break it to you but nother's day was yesterday
[23:41:56] < Spengo> today is mother's day
[23:42:01] < Cricket_B> No good results before the trash results...
[23:42:09] < chronomex> Spengo: stop making me choke myself
[23:42:13] < chronomex> Cricket_B: trash?
[23:42:18] <@Andy_J> Then you fail at using Google.
[23:42:20] < Spengo> actually I thought that was terrible
[23:42:22] <@Andy_J> And that is not our fault.
[23:42:26] < chronomex> Spengo: yeah ...
[23:42:28] < Spengo> I find it rather funny you laughed
[23:43:12] < chronomex> hah
[23:43:23] < Cricket_B> Andy_J, where could I find the current source or a tutorial on keyhooks (don't tell me to jfgi, I already tried)
[23:44:31] < Cricket_B> I'll try to remotely load my log to see if there are any hints in it...
[23:45:07] <@Andy_J> Go back to google because it takes 10 seconds to find it with the really fucking obvious search terms
[23:45:11] <@Andy_J> not stop bugging us about it
[23:46:22] < Cricket_B> The terms were: TI-83 Keyhook Tutorial
[23:46:35] < Cricket_B> The 3rd site (not result) was a trash result
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[23:47:24] < chronomex> what's trash result mean?
[23:47:29] < chronomex> and why do you give up so soon?
[23:48:28] < Cricket_B> A trash result is a result non relavent to anything, like those results with a huge list of words at the bottom, like Gameboy, and the result is weird, like cooking tips
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[23:48:57] < Cricket_B> (as in you search for Gameboy, you get a page of cooking tips)
[23:49:09] < chronomex> you fail at the internet
[23:49:41] < Cricket_B> Either a) txtedit froze, or b) I forgot the file name...I can't load the log either way...
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[23:51:00] < Cricket_B> Chronomex, I once believed that people were good at heart, but you proved me wrong...
[23:51:44] < Spengo> AHHHH MOTHERLAND
[23:51:51] < chronomex> glad to know :)
[23:52:15] < chronomex> what did I do this time?
[23:52:39] < Cricket_B> Can you just help me?
[23:52:40] < Spengo> <===<3O3o33OOo3
[23:52:51] < Spengo> ^nuke
[23:52:55] < chronomex> Cricket_B: what log?
[23:53:16] < chronomex> lol Spengo
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[23:55:01] <@efneTI92> [DSPLord] *waves hand* You will give me +v.
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[23:58:25] < Cricket_B> DSPLord, where can I find a keyhook tutorial?
[23:58:26] < Cricket_B> Why aren't I receiving my messages?
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[23:59:09] <+TheStorm> wikiti look it up
[23:59:23] <+TheStorm> aka jfgi
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