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[00:07:56] < LyteSaber> is it possible to type it in txt document and transfer it to ti-89?
[00:09:25] < jib> Anything is possible :)
[00:09:43] < jib> But, I don't know a good way to do it.
[00:12:52] <@E-J> sounds like cheating :)
[00:13:05]  * LyteSaber hides
[00:13:34] <@E-J> it's possible, f.ex. you can make program with ti graph link that just contains text
[00:13:47] < chronomex> yes
[00:14:03] < LyteSaber> would u direct to a url w/ tutorial
[00:15:14] <@E-J> you lazy youngsters
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[00:16:51] <@E-J> i can't find tutorial but i can point the software http://education.ti.com/educationportal/downloadcenter/SoftwareDetail.do?website=US&tabId=1&appId=160
[00:17:11] <@E-J> and no need for tutorial
[00:17:17] < LyteSaber> thx E-j
[00:17:19] < LyteSaber> and glk
[00:17:22] < LyteSaber> i will check it out
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[00:27:37] < Dalapuron> wine crashed when I was toying with the windows in mIRC
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[00:50:21] <@Andy_J> Gah.
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[00:51:40] <@efneTI92> [Spengo] En Taro Adun, Executor
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[01:02:00] <@efneTI92> [Tari_] Remember, remember the 5th of November
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[01:27:47] <@efneTI92> [Sir_Lewk] Give me a biscuit, I will do science to it
[01:28:45] < Tahben> mmm. biscuits.
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[01:37:53] <@efneTI92> [Speng0] En Taro Adun, Executor
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[01:45:33] <@efneTI92> [Sir_Lewk] Give me a biscuit, I will do science to it
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[01:56:42] < Sir_Lewk> is there any easy way of going about sending a continuous 5v signal from the I/O port that a program can switch on or off?
[01:56:51] < Sir_Lewk> this is the 89 btw
[01:59:44] <+TD-Linux> yes
[02:00:03] <+TD-Linux> as long as you don't mind it's connected to a huge resistor and it can't really power anything
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[02:04:35] < LyteSaber> i'm using ti-graph link and it's recognizing my ti-89, did i do something wrong
[02:04:46] < LyteSaber> *not recognizing
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[02:06:22] < i_c-Y> is the cable fully in and the calculator chargerd?
[02:06:44] < LyteSaber> yes, i hooked it up to a usb port
[02:07:13] < LyteSaber> the ti89 tit uses batteries
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[02:10:27] <@Andy_J> Graph-Link doesn't support USB cables.
[02:10:32] <@Andy_J> You must use TI-Connect.
[02:11:33] < i_c-Y> or tilp
[02:11:45] < LyteSaber> ahh darn
[02:12:13] <@Andy_J> You can use Graph-Link to edit files, save them to disc, and then use TI-Connect to transfer them to the calcultor.
[02:12:17] <@Andy_J> *disk
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[02:12:24] < LyteSaber> can i send type program file(s) to ti89 with tilp or ti-connect?
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[02:12:35] < i_c-Y> yes you can send program files.
[02:14:05] < LyteSaber> ok..i am over here right now...http://www.ticalc.org/pub/win/link/rate.html...downloaded tilp
[02:14:19] < i_c-Y> why dont you just use ticonnect like normal people?
[02:14:40] <@Andy_J> Hey, you were the one that brought up TiLP in the first place
[02:14:48] < i_c-Y> as an alternative.
[02:15:00] < i_c-Y> like what if he has to suddenly use lunix?
[02:15:10] < LyteSaber> can u give me a link to ti-connect
[02:15:11] < i_c-Y> WHERE IS YOUR TICONNECT NOW?
[02:15:12] < i_c-Y> HUH?
[02:15:14] < i_c-Y> HUH?
[02:15:26] < i_c-Y> http://education.ti.com its in the software section
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[02:18:30] < LyteSaber> i don't see it under ti-89
[02:19:05] < LyteSaber> ok got it
[02:19:08] < LyteSaber> gg google
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[02:24:32] < LyteSaber> i_c-Y> are you still there?
[02:26:28] < i_c-Y> ya
[02:26:45] < LyteSaber> i'm hooked and connected with ti-connect
[02:27:03] < LyteSaber> i see a file that i want to copy over and edit in main/program
[02:27:16] < LyteSaber> when i r/c, i see open and delete option
[02:27:36] < LyteSaber> and when i tried to open, it said data type is not associated w/ any software
[02:27:52] < LyteSaber> how do i copy it over so i can edit the file in gfx-link
[02:39:48] < Barrett> I hate it when the only girls who really fit your personality are just way too shy to like
[02:43:10] <+Tari_> aww
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[02:49:37] < Ox41> I think I might joing the Army!
[02:49:41]  * Ox41 runs in circles
[02:49:50] < LyteSaber> good luck
[02:49:51] < i_c-Y> congrats?
[02:50:42] < chronomex> don't get shot
[02:50:44] < LyteSaber> how do i transfer the file edited file *.89p back to the calculator thru ti-connect?
[02:51:07] < LyteSaber> i read the whole help me and not find that option
[02:52:31] < i_c-Y> open ti connect, click explorer, let it load up your calc and drag n drop it?
[02:53:31] < Ox41> Heh, I got a 77 on the ASVAB pretest... 41 = national average. woohooo *runs in circles again*
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[02:55:16] <@efneTI92> [Tari] Remember, remember the 5th of November
[02:55:21] < LyteSaber> whew, that wasn't in the manual. thx
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[02:55:47] < LyteSaber> let me test out my new memorization skill :D
[02:59:14] <+DSP_Lord> Ox41: i got a 99 >_>
[02:59:39] < Nikky>  ppwnt
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[03:48:36] <@efneTI92> [Dalapuron] We called it Sin.
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[04:04:09] <@efneTI92> [Spengo] En Taro Adun, Executor
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[04:04:11] <@efneTI92> [Sir_Lewk] Give me a biscuit, I will do science to it
[04:05:15]  * Sir_Lewk basks in his own glory
[04:06:03] < Sir_Lewk> http://sirlewk.googlepages.com/link_send.c
[04:06:28] < Sir_Lewk> sends a near contious voltage across the I/O port when a key is held down
[04:07:07] < Sir_Lewk> proving the concept of my ti-89 servo controller
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[04:11:00] < chronomex> cute
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[04:17:20] < Sir_Lewk> I will now commence with the construction of my m68k overload army
[04:18:42] < chronomex> overload, hot
[04:18:52] < Sir_Lewk> *overlord
[04:19:09]  * Sir_Lewk blushes
[04:19:26] < chronomex> nooo I like it
[04:20:05] < Sir_Lewk> you do?
[04:20:11] < Sir_Lewk> it's my first time :)
[04:20:19] < chronomex> blushing?
[04:20:25] < chronomex> oh
[04:20:25] < chronomex> yeah
[04:20:28] < chronomex> it's cool
[04:20:31] < chronomex> *hot
[04:20:33] < chronomex> wtfever
[04:22:12] < Sir_Lewk> *sob*
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[04:35:23] <@efneTI92> [prime38] I’ve used one adjective to describe myself. What is it?
[04:35:37] < prime38> [prime38] I’ve used one adjective to describe myself. What is it?
[04:35:50] < Nikky> Okay, uh prime38 
[04:36:01] < Nikky> You really don't need your own infoline from your client
[04:36:37] < prime38> yes i do
[04:38:14] < Sir_Lewk> no, what you need is your 89 to act as the input device for a servo controller
[04:42:47] <@Andy_J> well fooey, the flags aren't set how I thought they were for 16-bit comparisons
[04:43:32] <@Andy_J> or at least when one of the arguments is 0
[04:45:44] <+ports_> hrm
[04:46:28] <+ports_> Sir_Lewk, nice... are you in college?
[04:47:01] <@Andy_J> ok I'm really stumped
[04:48:01] < Merthsoft> it's my mother fucking birthday!
[04:49:18] < Nikky> Yay!
[04:49:26] < Merthsoft> 20!
[04:49:53] < Sir_Lewk> ports_, yeah
[04:49:54] < Sir_Lewk> this is for an engineering project
[04:49:55] < Sir_Lewk> !t Welcome to #TCPA | http://tcpa.calcg.org/ | Merthsoft.age++
[04:49:56] < Sir_Lewk> nice!
[04:49:58] -!- efneTI86 changed the topic of #tcpa to: Welcome to #TCPA | http://tcpa.calcg.org/ | Merthsoft.age++
[04:50:04] < Merthsoft> woot
[04:50:19] <@Andy_J> oh, hmm
[04:50:29] <@Andy_J> subtracting 0 will never set the carry flag...
[04:50:57] <@Andy_J> why the hell does it work when it compiles to x86 then...
[04:51:21] < Barrett> maybe x86 is different
[04:51:29] <@Andy_J> It shouldn't be.
[04:51:45] < prime38> maybe your program isnt working rite?
[04:51:51] <@Andy_J> Though you do use abstracted "jump above" "jump below" "jump equals" instead of checking flags directly
[04:52:12] <@Andy_J> prime38: No, I see now that it is doing exactly what it should be doine
[04:52:14] <@Andy_J> * doing
[04:52:40] <@Andy_J> You can never get the carry flag set when subtracting 0, so a jp nc will alway occur
[04:52:52] <@Andy_J> Bother.
[04:54:04] < prime38> i hope that the china fucks up the olympics
[04:55:14] < chronomex> yesssss
[04:56:57] < Dalapuron> Andy_J: that sucks
[04:57:18] <@Andy_J> Marking in the "known bugs: can't do > 0" in my compiler >_>
[04:57:40] <@Andy_J> the 83+ target isn't required anyway
[04:57:47] <@Andy_J> I'm doing it to spite the professor :P
[04:58:01] < Dalapuron> lol
[04:58:14] < Dalapuron> for some reason the sound doesn't sync in zsnes properly
[04:58:37] < Dalapuron> but otherwise the emulation is 100% smooth with no frameskipping
[04:58:42] < Dalapuron> no idea why
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[04:59:14] < prime38> probably because you are running an emulator in an emulator
[04:59:29] < Dalapuron> ?
[04:59:38] < Dalapuron> I'm using the linux version of zsnes
[04:59:42] < Dalapuron> not through wine
[04:59:45] <@Andy_J> wine is not an emulator anyway
[04:59:45] < Sir_Lewk> "<prime38> i hope that the china fucks up the olympics" they've been doing a pretty good job so far
[04:59:54] < prime38> Dalapuron: oh
[04:59:57] < Sir_Lewk> compatibility layer
[05:00:02] < Dalapuron> someone on a forum said to try sudo apt-get install libsdl1.2debian-oss
[05:00:04] < prime38> well, linux is a bad attempt as emulator of a useful desktop os
[05:00:06] < Dalapuron> which seems to mostly work
[05:00:18] < Dalapuron> but if I close zsnes and go back into it, I have the problem again
[05:01:45] <@Andy_J> ... a > 1 isn't working either
[05:01:50] <@Andy_J> wigh
[05:01:52] <@Andy_J> * sigh
[05:04:51] <@Andy_J> there has to be an off-by-one in here...
[05:04:59] <@Andy_J> though I'm not sure how
[05:07:13] < Dalapuron> ?
[05:08:03] < Dalapuron> what exactly are you doing?
[05:09:41] <@Andy_J> Trying to make my Teeny Tiny BASIC compiler for compilers class ouput 83+ programs as well
[05:10:27] < Dalapuron> heh
[05:10:47] <@Andy_J> crazy hack...
[05:10:59] <@Andy_J> Increment the RHS of > and < before doing the compare
[05:11:03] <@Andy_J> *SEEMS* to be working
[05:11:25] <@Andy_J> maybe I don't need it for <
[05:11:46] <@Andy_J> needs more test cases
[05:12:30] <@Andy_J> My fibonacci program works unmodified from the version the 286 compiler was doing earlier
[05:12:32] < Dalapuron> I think I may switch back to my desktop as I'm in a scripting mood
[05:12:44] < Dalapuron> want to go back to my 3D demo
[05:13:26] < Dalapuron> convert it to draw wireframe polys instead of just connecting the vertices
[05:14:28] <@Andy_J> and my mult function totally doesn't work
[05:14:32] < Dalapuron> I kinda want to do it in C instead but I don't have a clue how to do anything outside of console output in C
[05:17:52] <@Andy_J> ok mult works now but / doesn't
[05:17:58] < Sir_Lewk> file output? ;-)
[05:18:02] <@Andy_J> 5000 / 5 != 0
[05:18:09] < Dalapuron> Sir_Lewk: harhar
[05:18:34] < Sir_Lewk> ncurses is always fun, though still kind of console output
[05:19:02] < prime38> computers suck
[05:19:02] < Dalapuron> with mIRC I draw in a picture window
[05:19:28] < Dalapuron> but I'm a bit limited when it comes to data usage
[05:21:55] <@Andy_J> oh, DivHLbyDE puts the result in de, not hl
[05:22:11] <@Andy_J> that was an easy fix
[05:22:17] < Dalapuron> nifty
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[05:24:40] < Tahben> So excited. I might have air conditioning tomorrow!
[05:24:49] < Dalapuron> :O
[05:24:55] < Dalapuron> you didn't before?
[05:25:11] < Tahben> I did, that's precisely the problem :)
[05:25:15] < Dalapuron> I see. :P
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[05:26:55] < Tahben> I'm pretty sure the roofers disconnected power to it.
[05:27:07] < Dalapuron> man, I walked 7 miles on saturday
[05:27:17] < Dalapuron> I'm probably going to do that again tomorrow
[05:27:52] < Tahben> but tomorrow is tuesday.
[05:28:01] < Dalapuron> so?
[05:28:43] < Tahben> eat burgers on tuesday
[05:28:53] < Dalapuron> no
[05:28:57] < prime38> why
[05:29:09] < Dalapuron> aside from that I don't have a debit card right now, waiting for my replacement to get in the mail
[05:29:18] < Dalapuron> but I don't like beef, burgers are gross
[05:30:09] < Nikky> :(
[05:30:22] < Tahben> whoa there.
[05:30:46] < Tahben> I don't trust a man who doesn't eat meat. Remind me to watch my wallet around you...
[05:31:35] < prime38> who would have given the trix rabbit trix?
[05:31:39] < Dalapuron> um
[05:31:43] <@Andy_J> my apartment building's AC "should be on within 30 days" >:l
[05:31:43] < Dalapuron> I like chicken and turkey
[05:31:58] < Dalapuron> just not beef
[05:32:02] < prime38> i -so- would have
[05:32:19] < prime38> the bash.org quote pretty much sums up my feelings on that
[05:34:22] < prime38> http://bash.org/?75154
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[05:49:40] < Dalapuron> meh, going to my desktop now
[05:50:54] <+ports_> lame
[05:50:59] <+ports_> i need mor ram for my desktop
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[05:58:32] <@efneTI92> [Leofox] All we do in hell is play DDR!
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[06:01:14] <@efneTI92> [Sir_Lewk] Give me a biscuit, I will do science to it
[06:10:10] < prime38> "bomb her womb from your huge cannon"
[06:13:55] < Sir_Lewk> lolwut
[06:14:19] < prime38> spam email
[06:14:53] < prime38> that was the title of an email for penis pills
[06:14:59] < prime38> those emails are insulting
[06:15:04] < chronomex> they are
[06:15:06] < Leofox> yeah
[06:15:07] < chronomex> we should ban them
[06:15:10] < prime38> my penis is already huge
[06:15:10] < Leofox> we don't need penis enlargement
[06:15:33] < Leofox> everybody knows calc programmers have huge cocks
[06:15:35] < chronomex> supposedly women prefer girth to choking from the wrong direction
[06:15:49] < chronomex> but I'm a total n00b so what would I know?
[06:19:28] < prime38> name this movie: "prepare to get fucked by the long dick of the law"
[06:20:19] < Leofox> "Leofox's days as a cop"?
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[06:20:34] < prime38> nope
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[06:36:15] <+ports_> you noob
[06:36:25] <+ports_> Sir_Lewk, yo
[06:36:37] < Sir_Lewk> sup
[06:36:51] <+ports_> you interested in working on the ti89 control system?
[06:37:18] < Sir_Lewk> what is that?
[06:37:36] <+ports_> <Sir_Lewk> no, what you need is your 89 to act as the input device for a servo controller
[06:37:52] < Sir_Lewk> oh, that
[06:38:22] <+ports_> anyone have some spare pc3200 ram?
[06:38:44] < Sir_Lewk> yeah, I wrote a short little program that sends unsigned longS set at ULONG_MAX to the link port
[06:38:46] < nicolas> eeh, I wish..
[06:38:55] < nicolas> I have 512mb here on my work computer ...
[06:39:06] < Sir_Lewk> while resetting the ports status to ok
[06:39:10] < nicolas> you have no idea how painful it is to have to open netbeans to get work done :(
[06:39:26] < Sir_Lewk> it in effect creates a 3-5V output that you can turn on or off
[06:39:43] <+ports_> Sir_Lewk, ah. and now you just need a microcontroller to connect to the ti89... send over different signals for directions/distance... and the microcontroller will direct your motor
[06:40:14] < Sir_Lewk> yeah, right now I'm using a Handiboard
[06:40:50] < Sir_Lewk> *handyboard
[06:40:52] < Sir_Lewk> http://www.handyboard.com/
[06:41:03] <+ports_> yeah
[06:41:11] <+ports_> ive been working with the cypress eval1
[06:41:49] <+ports_> i had to pay extra.. but it was worth it. i can program the psoc in C
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[06:42:07] < Sir_Lewk> ah, nice
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[06:42:28] < Sir_Lewk> I've just been checking the handyboard out from my school's EE department
[06:42:32] <+ports_> which i think is the huge advantage to using a psoc.. dont have to learn a new language
[06:42:43] < Sir_Lewk> has "Interactive C", kind of a pain but usable
[06:42:53] < Tahben> dear 1and1. you are teh crap.
[06:43:09] < Sir_Lewk> hey-ya Tahben 
[06:44:02] < Tahben> same@u
[06:44:24] <+ports_> Sir_Lewk, are you going EE or Controls?
[06:44:40] < Sir_Lewk> I'm a CS major
[06:44:53] <+ports_> ah
[06:45:03] <+ports_> did you do the servo control for a project?
[06:45:10] < Sir_Lewk> not sure what exactly I'm going to do yet though, kinda interested in compilers and OS design though
[06:45:18] < nicolas> Tahben!! hello =)
[06:45:25] < Sir_Lewk> yeah, general engineering project
[06:45:36] <+ports_> i had a friend that did interface design for his senior project in CS
[06:45:54] <+ports_> compiled a bunch of test data from user surveys and built an 'ideal' software interface
[06:45:59] < Sir_Lewk> until after my first year I'm considered part of the engineering department instead of the CS department
[06:46:15] <+ports_> ahh
[06:46:28] < Sir_Lewk> <== wee little freshman ;)
[06:46:42] <+ports_> i know
[06:46:55] < Tahben> how wee are we talking
[06:46:57] < Tahben> hi nicolas 
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[06:51:39] < Tahben> oh yay, it is _krisp_
[06:51:53] < Sir_Lewk> ah, that explains it
[06:51:57] < _krisk_> yay
[06:52:05] < Sir_Lewk> Cinco de Mayo
[06:52:25] < Sir_Lewk> half my floor is drunk as hell and the bathrooms are a mess :(
[06:52:49] < _krisk_> yet another day at college huh
[06:53:41] < _krisk_> mine is typical too, I just woke up at a time I was already supposed to be in class to find out that apparently my alarm clock will display its on but not make any sound when the time comes up to do so
[06:54:07] <+ports_> haha
[06:54:10] < Tahben> well you are way more ambitious than I was. I just stopped setting the alarm.
[06:54:15] <+ports_> living in the dorms sucks
[06:54:28] <+ports_> isnt it finals week at your school?
[06:54:44] < Sir_Lewk> nah, my school has a weird schedule
[06:54:50] <+ports_> oh ok
[06:54:55] <+ports_> anyhow freshman fucking stupid
[06:54:55] < Sir_Lewk> don't get off until June 14
[06:55:00] < moko|586> today was our last day of finals, too.
[06:55:04] < moko|586> ehr ... at all
[06:55:14] < _krisk_> well i was ambitious enough in the sense that i really should be present now because it will probably prohibit me from finishing this class this year
[06:55:19] <+ports_> moko|586, i took my last final of my undergrad today
[06:55:26] < moko|586> ports_: 'grats.
[06:55:30] <+ports_> thanks
[06:55:33] < Tahben> congrats ports_+ 
[06:55:56] < moko|586> I still need to accept a transfer offer that makes me have to take an extra year ><
[06:56:07] < _krisk_> grats when you pass
[06:56:09] < moko|586> (meaning 3 more instead of just 2)
[06:56:19] < Sir_Lewk> heh
[06:56:29] < Sir_Lewk> I have 5 years, including coops
[06:56:34] <+ports_> _krisk_, i dont need to pass
[06:56:35] < _krisk_> what does that make the total? for you moko|586
[06:56:43] <+ports_> these were extra electives.
[06:56:44] < chronomex> _krisk_: some alarm clock
[06:56:56] < moko|586> _krisk_: 4 total.
[06:57:19] < _krisk_> yeah apparently the button is a bit screwy and it only makes a good sound if i hold it just right oterhwise no sound at all or barely audible
[06:57:21] < _krisk_> oh? then what are the finals for?
[06:58:08] < moko|586> I assume classes that aren't required and won't hurt his GPA bad enough to prevent him from graduating.
[06:58:27] < Sir_Lewk> I've got to get to bed, almost 3am
[06:58:32] < Tahben> you want I should buy you an alarm clock, _kunk_?
[06:58:33] < moko|586> night
[06:58:34] < Sir_Lewk> later all
[06:58:50] < Tahben> night moko|586 
[06:58:51] < _krisk_> bb
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[06:58:58]  * nicolas just uses his cell phone as alarm clock...
[06:59:08] < nicolas> but yeah, I never set the alarm when I was at uni either :P
[06:59:33] < moko|586> Tahben: it's Sir_Zzzz that is going to bed, not me :)
[06:59:54] < Tahben> my bad.
[07:00:02] < Tahben> I SAID GOOD NIGHT SIR. just kidding.
[07:00:39] < Sir_Zzzz> sheesh, g'dnight :P
[07:00:50] < _krisk_> yeah i guess ill use my phone again from now on. used to, but then some day at 5am it went off while i was in the shower thinking i had turned it off and well everybody who was sleeping didnt exactly share my fondness of this audio: http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=lcPBjT_c_rc
[07:01:29] < nicolas> Tahben: so, how's life these days, treating your alright ?
[07:02:04] < moko|586> _krisk_: my roommate did that to me nearly DAILY
[07:02:07] < Tahben> I was going to say yes, but I just realized its midnight and I'm up in 2 hours. ooops!
[07:02:13] < moko|586> I think I turned his alarm off more than he did.
[07:02:26]  * Tahben puts _krisk_ in line for a wakeup call
[07:02:38] < _krisk_> im up! im up!
[07:02:47] < Tahben> ok, wasn't sure of your status.
[07:02:59] < _krisk_> no problem i hardly ever am myself
[07:03:15] < Tahben> who are you then, chris knight?
[07:03:39] < Tahben> I better get a nap in before breakfast. Night boys.
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[07:03:45] < _krisk_> bb
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[08:14:02] < JamieG> hey
[08:14:10] <+_krisk_> hu
[08:15:04] < JamieG> does anyone know if you can play quicktime files embedded on a website, in full screen
[08:15:41] <+_krisk_> well you can make the player area as large you want
[08:15:52] < JamieG> how?
[08:16:48] <+_krisk_> well what i would do is open the embedded video by itself in a seperate tab filling almost the entire screen but you can also open it in your favorite quicktime compatible player and do whatever that can do
[08:17:15] < JamieG> how do you do that?
[08:17:20] <+_krisk_> save the file?
[08:17:29] < JamieG> theres not an option to save
[08:17:40] <+_krisk_> no but that doesnt mean you cant
[08:17:51] < JamieG> how do you save then?
[08:17:52] <+_krisk_> in fact your browser probably already does save it in cache
[08:18:13] <+_krisk_> so you can copy it from there or use the url to the embedded file
[08:18:26] < nicolas> sometimes it doesn't...
[08:18:34] < nicolas> depends on the feed
[08:18:46] < JamieG> so theres no way to do it without making it large initally?
[08:19:00] < JamieG> because for wmvs i know there is an option for full screen
[08:19:02] < nicolas> change your screen's resolution :P
[08:19:04] < JamieG> when they are embedded
[08:19:32] <+_krisk_> you mean showing them while playing on a site as fullscreen?
[08:21:28] <+_krisk_> hello?
[08:23:20] <+_krisk_> if you use quicktimme alternative isntead of apple's piece of failure you can right click save as any embedded quicktime movie
[08:25:25] < JamieG> yes
[08:25:36] < JamieG> show them while playin on a site as fullscreen
[08:25:50] <+_krisk_> to all visitors or just for yourself?
[08:26:07] < JamieG> all visitors
[08:26:32] <+_krisk_> uhm how would you do that with wmv? because I dont think thats possible with any embedded object
[08:26:41] <+_krisk_> with anything on your site for that matter
[08:26:48] < JamieG> it just works
[08:26:49] < JamieG> dunno man
[08:27:27] <+_krisk_> you mean that you can have a wmv on your site and anybody who visits that site automatically sees the video playing fullscreen on top of their browser and any other apps?
[08:28:23] < JamieG> no it starts off small, but if you right click on it there is a zoom option and then full screen option
[08:28:38] <+_krisk_> that ewntirely depends on the plugin displaying the video
[08:28:43] < prime38> quicktime alternative installs the directshow filters, so you can open it up in media player classis
[08:28:58] < prime38> and then boom, whatever size you want
[08:29:51] < JamieG> ok
[08:29:55] < JamieG> ill check it out
[08:29:59] < JamieG> thx guys
[08:30:01] <+_krisk_> you cant enforce a fullscreen option through your site, it depends entirely on what plugin each visitor uses to view your video. if that plugin doesnt give the option for fullscreen viewing then nothing on your site can change that.
[08:30:18] < JamieG> ah i see
[08:30:19] <+_krisk_> the closest you can do is resize the embedded object to cover the entire site
[08:30:22] < JamieG> so its my plugin
[08:30:30] <+_krisk_> the visitor's plugin
[08:30:34] < JamieG> right
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[08:30:55] < prime38> jibjibjibjibjibjib!!!!!
[08:30:59] < jib> hi
[08:31:03] < prime38> hi
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[08:31:07] <@efneTI92> [TimMc] TimMc is solving the Rubik's Cube in 26.34 seconds!
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[08:31:13] < prime38> TimMc!!!!
[08:31:18] <+TimMc> heya!
[08:31:22] <+TimMc> long timee :-)
[08:31:26] < prime38> yea yea
[08:31:31] < prime38> you too jib
[08:31:36] < jib> yeah
[08:31:37] <+TimMc> ;-P
[08:31:46] < prime38> what is the coincedence!
[08:32:11] < jib> Yesterday I was cleaning up my computer and found some old #tcpa logs and thought 'heh... I should go back there'
[08:33:08] <+TimMc> the other day i was looking for colorful cases to pimp my new ti 89 ti ^_^
[08:33:18] <+TimMc> well, year old now ;-P
[08:33:31] <+TimMc> it still has all it's pixels :-)
[08:33:43] <+TimMc> can't say the same about my 6-7 yo 83+ :-(
[08:33:44] < JamieG> k thx guys
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[08:37:37] < prime38> who knows about building cimputers?
[08:37:54] < prime38> and, computers, the brother of cimputers
[08:38:07] <+_krisk_> what do oyu need to know
[08:38:17] < prime38> what ram speed to get?
[08:38:30] <+_krisk_> athlon or intel?
[08:38:35] <+_krisk_> *amd
[08:38:36] <+_krisk_> lulZ
[08:38:37] < prime38> what is the maximum tha speed that would benefit my hardare
[08:38:39] < prime38> intel
[08:39:01] <+_krisk_> budget?
[08:39:17] < prime38> ok ok, say i already know the motherboard and processor
[08:39:35] < prime38> what spec from those two determines the speed?
[08:39:41] <+_krisk_> well then you can get the fastest rate both support or slightly lower and overclock
[08:40:30] < prime38> ok, maximum supported
[08:40:40] < prime38> and i will work down due to price
[08:40:51] <+_krisk_> well the mainboard specs should say what ram it supports
[08:41:06] <+_krisk_> for example ddr2-800, or pc6400, or the actualy frequencies
[08:41:11] < prime38> ahh, ok, and that number cant be overclocked??
[08:42:07] <+_krisk_> it cna be overclocked but i wouldnt try to buy ddr2 800 ram for a mainboard claiming to supprot up to 667
[08:42:27] <+_krisk_> though it can also be underclocked
[08:42:56] <+_krisk_> do you know if its ddr2 or 3?
[08:43:00] < prime38> ddr2
[08:43:27] <+_krisk_> then youre probably looking at 1000-1200
[08:44:20] < prime38> DDR2 1066
[08:44:25] < prime38> that is was the board says
[08:44:40] <+_krisk_> then thats what you can put in it and itll recognize it and work and everything
[08:44:47] <+_krisk_> or should ; )
[08:45:09] < prime38> but, i could but in ddr2-800, and pump that up so it is working like 1066?
[08:45:34] <+_krisk_> depends on if those ram modules can handle that
[08:45:36] <+_krisk_> probably not
[08:45:48] < prime38> ok
[08:46:22] <+_krisk_> depending on bios features you could buy 1066 and overclock that too though
[08:46:53] < prime38> would you know if it worth it to trade up for a mobo that supports ddr2-1300 (with that RAM) for instance?
[08:47:14] < Nikky> just buy something from dell
[08:47:15] <+_krisk_> that depends on usage and what sort of cpu and stuff youre getting
[08:47:21] < Nikky> it's not like you'd notice anyway
[08:47:24] <+_krisk_> will be a trade off between costs and gains of course
[08:47:29] < Nikky> especially if you'll bug us about it constantly
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[08:47:42] < prime38> hehe, yea thats the hardest part to figure out
[08:47:46] < prime38> where that line is
[08:49:49] <+_krisk_> you can probably buy a better cpu and graphics card fo the money you "save" on not getting ddr3-1600 or something crazy like that
[08:50:05] <+_krisk_> and that better cpu and gfx card will probably give a larger boost than only the ram
[08:50:13] <+_krisk_> so its a bit of a balance act
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[08:51:11] < prime38> well, definitely nor ddr3
[08:52:53] < prime38> the price difference among ddr2 at these speeds is noticible, but not compared to the cost of rest of the system
[08:53:29] <+_krisk_> yeah
[08:54:06] <+_krisk_> id say if you really want to save money look at 800 otherwise anything above 1000 will be nice
[08:54:17] < prime38> a good question is dual core 3GHz or quad core 2.4GHz for 20 more
[08:54:39] <+_krisk_> depends on the chipset
[08:54:45] < nicolas> depends what you want to do with it
[08:54:53] <+_krisk_> that too
[08:54:57] < nicolas> that only
[08:55:16] <+_krisk_> assuming you dont do much that will actually use 4 cores itll still dependo n what dual core chipset youre talking about
[08:55:27] < prime38> p35
[08:55:52] < prime38> i think ill be happy with dual
[08:56:07] < prime38> never had a computer with dual, or even HT
[08:56:09] <+_krisk_> i mean what cpu chip
[08:56:28] <+_krisk_> core2 e8400 and e6850 are both 3ghz
[08:56:33] < prime38> e8400
[08:56:36] < nicolas> prime38: well, generally for a personal machine ... a dual will be more than enough, so 3GHZ is > 2.4 =)
[08:57:19] <+_krisk_> actually the quad core can probably keep up fine even at that clock
[08:57:41] < nicolas> if you want to do heavy duty high throughput webserving, quadcore will be better, as well as for nice parrallel number crunching (you going to be simulating supernovae too?) ....
[08:58:16] < prime38> there will probably be several of them ;)
[08:58:29] < nicolas> on the other hand, if you're going to be running Office suite, mail, web broswers, games ... and compilers (which would seem to gain from parallel, actually often don't get much out of more than 2)
[08:58:38] <+_krisk_> because youre looking at intel the really nice thing cost wise is where you get a 2.4-2.6ghz duo2 and overclock it to >3ghz
[08:59:11] < prime38> tbh, i dont see me overclocking
[08:59:27] <+_krisk_> nah im not a fan of it either
[08:59:31] < jib> quad core might help with compiling, if you're building something large you can compile more than one file at once
[08:59:43] <+_krisk_> it helps in some games
[09:00:15] < prime38> yea, and i'd like to future proof it into at least next year
[09:00:16] <+_krisk_> but of course you can always get teh cheaper c2 now and by the time things actually use 4 cores you can replace it with a quad
[09:00:41] <+_krisk_> 2 cores will last more than long enough
[09:01:24] <+_krisk_> what are you upgrading from?
[09:02:22] < prime38> a laptop, pentium M 1.73GHz and ATI x600, 1GB pc-2700 ddr RAM
[09:02:59] <+_krisk_> yeah c2 will get you palces just fine
[09:04:19] <+_krisk_> im gonna get a shower
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[09:08:09] < prime38> thanks for th help _krisk_
[09:14:41] < Dalapuron> my laptop and my desktop are having a bandwidth battle
[09:26:48] < nicolas> who's winning ?
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[10:07:14]  * nicolas is hungry/....
[10:15:30] <+_krisk_> me too
[10:21:17] < prime38> good night
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[10:26:39]  * Netham45 is bored
[10:27:29] <+_krisk_> http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/99521/543599d5/claudia_cardinale_vs_brigitte_bardot.html
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[10:32:54] <@efneTI92> [rivereye] Is it time to go fishing?
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[11:09:01] <+_krisk_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEMEBBwO6J8
[11:35:25] < Dalapuron> ,
[11:46:47] <+_krisk_> ;
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[12:09:13] <@efneTI92> [KermM] http://www.cemetech.net :: Leading The Way to the Future
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[12:09:35] < Netham45> seen test
[12:09:36] <@efneTI86> I don't know who test is.
[12:09:38] < Netham45> sweet
[12:09:59] <+KermM> seen i_c-Y
[12:10:00] <@efneTI86> i_c-Y was last on IRC channel #tcpa 8 hours ago.
[12:12:09] < jib> seen your mom
[12:12:10] <@efneTI86> Let's not get personal, jib.
[12:12:17] < jib> lol
[12:12:20] < Netham45> seen god
[12:12:21] <@efneTI86> Let's not get into a religious discussion, Netham45
[12:12:35] < Netham45> seen god
[12:12:36] < jib> seen jib
[12:12:36] <@efneTI86> I don't know who god is.
[12:12:38] <@efneTI86> Looking for yourself, eh jib?
[12:12:51] < jib> seen efneTI86 
[12:12:52] <@efneTI86>                                   You found me, jib!
[12:12:55] <+KermM> lol
[12:13:05] <+KermM> seen a ghost
[12:13:06] <@efneTI86> I don't know who a is.
[12:13:24] < Netham45> seen muhhamad
[12:13:26] <@efneTI86> I don't know who muhhamad is.
[12:14:05] <+KermM> you spelled it strangely
[12:14:08] <+KermM> seen mohammed
[12:14:10] <@efneTI86> I don't know who mohammed is.
[12:14:14] <+KermM> huh
[12:14:16] <+KermM> seen jesus
[12:14:18] <@E-J> i see bot abusers
[12:14:19] <@efneTI86> Let's not get into a religious discussion, KermM
[12:14:30] < jib> seen bot abusers
[12:14:31] <@efneTI86> I don't know who bot is.
[12:14:35] <+KermM> :D
[12:14:39] < jib> in soviet russia, bot is YOU, efneTI86 
[12:14:48] <@E-J> one more and
[12:15:11] < jib> one more and what?
[12:15:34] <@E-J> think about it
[12:24:12] < Dalapuron> stop abusing the bots like you're retarded 4 year olds playing with toys from mcdonalds or you'll be kicked
[12:24:21] < Dalapuron> that's what
[12:24:26] < Dalapuron> now fucking grow up for once
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[12:26:11] < Netham45> I thought we had arrived...
[12:27:50] < jib> That seemed like a bit of an overreaction...
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[13:03:05] <+alsokrisk> :O voice
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[13:20:35] <+tifreak> 'lo peoples
[13:20:40] <+_krisk_> lo
[13:21:01] <+tifreak> what's up?
[13:21:22] <+_krisk_> stuff
[13:21:55] <+_krisk_> just got back from the gym
[13:22:25] <+tifreak> uh huh, suuuuurrreee.... :P
[13:22:52] < Milayrdo> I'm sure _krisk_ is now a musculy sweet beast
[13:22:53] < Milayrdo> grrrr
[13:23:08] < Milayrdo> *sweaty
[13:23:13] <+tifreak> XD
[13:23:21] <+_krisk_> i did. i think im going to change my program to 5x5 but ill have to improve my hamstring flexibility first so i can do proper squats instead of the sissy partial squats i see everyone do
[13:23:44] <+_krisk_> sweaty yes, but thats about it
[13:24:23] <+tifreak> its amazing what the simple pushups, sit-ups, jumping jacks, and leglifts can do for one's body...
[13:24:33] <+tifreak> and alot of walking :P
[13:24:53] <+_krisk_> myeah for some basic strength, unless you spent your entire day on them
[13:24:54] < Milayrdo> Ummmm they can turn you into a normal human being?
[13:25:16] <+tifreak> who is normal these days?
[13:25:23] < Milayrdo> well... Its amzing if your an american at least
[13:25:25] <+tifreak> :P
[13:25:36] <+_krisk_> squat, bench press, press, deadlift, row, chin & pull ups, dips
[13:26:00] < Milayrdo> American's don't know the definition of Fit
[13:26:11] <+_krisk_> some do
[13:26:58] <+tifreak> heh.. here, most people think "fit" is super skinny... <.<
[13:27:25] <+_krisk_> thats probably what we call normal
[13:27:46] <+tifreak> ok, then I aint exactly normal then :P
[13:28:03] <+tifreak> but I aint fat either
[13:28:11] <+_krisk_> mind you im sick of people telling eachother its healthy to be skinny or fat
[13:28:37] <+tifreak> well... it is a known fact it is not healthy to be fat...
[13:28:45] <+tifreak> people that say so need shot
[13:28:54] <+tifreak> repeatedly
[13:28:54] <+_krisk_> neither is healthy
[13:29:05] <+tifreak> with a 50 calibur
[13:29:36] <+_krisk_> its annoying when you think youre ugly skinny and people tell you you look fine
[13:29:50] <+_krisk_> either theyre not being honest or youre crazy
[13:30:18] <+tifreak> heh, when people say I look fine, I wave my hand in front of their face... make sure to see if they are blind... :P
[13:30:20] <+tifreak> j/k
[13:30:49] <+tifreak> we are who we are, we can be no more or no less 
[13:31:02] <+tifreak> lots of people don't understand that...
[13:31:09] <+_krisk_> we can achieve new things, improve
[13:31:30] <+tifreak> to a point
[13:31:41] <+tifreak> i agree.. but for most, that statement holds true :/
[13:31:52] <+_krisk_> nah everyone can achieve new things
[13:32:33] <+tifreak> they could, if they tried
[13:33:41] <+_krisk_> we can if we defeat the voice inside our head thats making up excuses for everything
[13:34:15] <+_krisk_> and the only way to do that is by doing what its saying cant be done
[13:34:52] <+_krisk_> ont that im supermotivated, but at least i know how it works
[13:35:05] <+_krisk_> far from it in fact
[13:36:12] <+tifreak> yeah..
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[13:37:14] <+_krisk_> i think im an ugly loser but i also know what i want and that i have to fix shit or im never going to get there
[13:37:33] <+_krisk_> so people saying things are fine the way they are essentially make me out for being crazy
[13:39:05] < nicolas> eh, I hate skinny people :P
[13:39:29] <+_krisk_> i hate myself
[13:42:36] < nicolas> I look at the mirror every morning and think to myself "you looking FIIIINE today :)"
[13:43:39] < nicolas> of course the mirror may have a different opinion :P
[13:43:44] < al_b> nicolas, don't be a hater :(
[13:44:15] < al_b> has anyone here used eclipse sucessfully?
[13:44:23] <+_krisk_> yes
[13:44:38] < al_b> personally, I'm finding it so terrible I'm considering spending $150 on a commerical solution
[13:44:40] <+_krisk_> one moment, making shake
[13:45:04] <+_krisk_> forgot my teaSPOOONNNNNN
[13:45:09] < nicolas> al_b: what do you need it for ?
[13:45:21] < al_b> I've been screwing with eclipse all night, confusing the heck out of myself. Then I downloaded crossworks and had something working within 5 minutes
[13:45:49] < al_b> I've just bought a handy dandy ARM debugger/development tool, which amazingly came with no useful software whatsoever
[13:45:58] < al_b> normally they at least give you "hello world" to play with
[13:46:16] < nicolas> ah, embedded...
[13:46:36] <+TimMc> lol
[13:46:48] <+TimMc> eclipse ftw
[13:46:52] <+TimMc> what u doing in eclipse? o.O
[13:46:59] <+_krisk_> also, netbeans
[13:47:19] < nicolas> netbeans is mostly for java...
[13:47:35] < nicolas> and C/C++, ruby now as well..
[13:47:40] <+_krisk_> yeah
[13:47:52] <+TimMc> netbeans better than eclipse? o.O
[13:47:59] < al_b> well, I just want a nice IDE so I can debug stuff easily
[13:48:04] <+TimMc> I've just been using eclipse for Java and C
[13:48:05] <+_krisk_> jedit?
[13:48:06] < nicolas> TimMc: for java web services, I think so :)
[13:48:25] <+_krisk_> what doews arm use?
[13:48:40] < nicolas> al_b: embedded programming is qutie a specific niche where proprietary tools are often a better solution
[13:48:44] <+TimMc> i've to make a stockmarket system asap x.x Java + RMI + Oracle
[13:48:49] < al_b> here's what I'm used to with AVRs: http://alpage.ath.cx/debugger2.jpg
[13:48:54] < nicolas> RMI .. ugh
[13:49:00] <+TimMc> RMIT = shite?
[13:49:01] < nicolas> RMI is deprecated since ... for ever
[13:49:13] <+TimMc> RMI* (not to be confused with the uni i'm going to, RMIT)
[13:49:24] <+TimMc> what should replace it? ;pp
[13:49:34] < nicolas> anything
[13:49:49] < nicolas> the general trend these days seem to be "web-services"
[13:49:50] <+TimMc> i'll tell em to stop teachin it if it's le crap
[13:49:51] < al_b> nice and polished. Whereas eclipse looks like it was put together by schizophrenics on acid
[13:49:58] < nicolas> JAX-WS
[13:50:32] <+_krisk_> hehe schizophrenics = portal-like
[13:51:00] < nicolas> al_b: omg, that's a huge start bar you got there
[13:51:33] < nicolas> TimMc: I guess it worked fine... but you know, limited to java ...
[13:51:39] < al_b> you should see my start menu now =)
[13:51:53] <+_krisk_> lol get another monitor for just the taskbar
[13:51:56] < nicolas> interoperability is all the rage now ... and RMI is useless in the work place
[13:52:00] <+TimMc> ewww
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[13:52:14] <+TimMc> @ start bar ;p
[13:52:14] < al_b> actually, yes I have 2 monitors now...
[13:52:20] <+_krisk_> wooo soa
[13:52:20] < al_b> prepare for the screenshot of death
[13:52:50] <+_krisk_> fun fact: soa is the dutch acronym with the same meaning as std
[13:52:52] <+TimMc> eclipse is oki for typing stuff, i dont trust it to "do" anything though
[13:53:09] <+TimMc> ie: merging a CVS branch :/ = FAIL
[13:53:19] < al_b> http://alpage.ath.cx/start.jpg
[13:53:27] <+_krisk_> i still like notepad++ i guess theres macros and plugins you can use for it to do the compiling and stuff with anything
[13:53:39] < nicolas> yeah .. SOA ... eheh ... I love the way SOAP went from being "Simple Object Access Protocol" to just SOAP
[13:54:18] <+_krisk_> well at lweast we can spew buzzwords and sound professional
[13:54:22] <+TimMc> what device you using ARM on?
[13:54:28] < nicolas> ... the "simple" part just wasn't true anymore :P
[13:54:36] <+_krisk_> hehe yeah
[13:54:42] < al_b> nothing, yet. I'm just playing with it
[13:54:52] < nicolas> _krisk_: well, in the European Space Agency ... STD = software transfer document .... but it walways makes me laugh
[13:54:57] < al_b> I'm hoping to make a dodgey software FM radio receiver
[13:55:09] <+TimMc> ^^
[13:55:19] <+_krisk_> well then you can actually say "have you got the std from that?"
[13:55:27] < nicolas> it's like "so, can you tell me where I can find the STD?"
[13:55:29] < nicolas> hahaha
[13:55:39] <+TimMc> i fail @ study, i should just teach ;p
[13:56:04] < nicolas> hehe
[13:56:06] < nicolas> as they say
[13:56:06] <+_krisk_> haha i think thats what most professors thought
[13:56:29] < nicolas> "those who can't do anything teach, those who can't teach become university lecturers"
[13:56:40] <+_krisk_> lulz
[13:56:47] <+_krisk_> sadly i only know one that doesnt apply yto
[13:57:03] < nicolas> hehe
[13:57:11] <+_krisk_> i guess that proves the rule
[13:57:17] < nicolas> I was lucky enough, about 50% of my lecturers were good
[13:57:46] < nicolas> although the other 50% were so bad they brought the level down to make that statement still feel very correct
[13:58:39] <+_krisk_> that reminds me, im supposed to look into some refactoring stuff for him
[14:03:15] <+_krisk_> i dont suppose anyone knows how to export the mysql database service i may have running in netbeans? so i can give it to someone with a project
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[14:39:25] < nicolas> 512mb of ram is definitely NOT enough for a developer ...
[14:39:39] <+_krisk_> php developer :P
[14:39:53] < nicolas> and java and c# :P
[14:40:10] < nicolas> i'm spending more time waiting for swapping to happen than working :P
[14:40:39] < nicolas> someone keep me entertained!
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[14:41:07] <@efneTI92> [KermM] http://www.cemetech.net :: Leading The Way to the Future
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[14:42:31] <+_krisk_> do you think singletons are bad?
[14:54:16] <@E-J> nicolas: sorry, no good links today
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[15:01:46] < nicolas> E-J: damn... just when I need them the most :P
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[15:04:25] <@efneTI92> [Sir_Lewk] Give me a biscuit, I will do science to it
[15:04:45] < Sir_Lewk> science to it, I will do
[15:05:01] <+DSP_Lord> no u
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[15:07:52] <@efneTI92> [rivereye] Is it time to go fishing?
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[15:10:59] < Sir_Lewk> yes i
[15:20:27] <+_krisk_> "I once prayed to God for a bike, but quickly found out he didnt work that way...so I stole a bike and prayed for his forgiveness"
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[15:30:52] < Sir_Lewk> LOL _krisk_ 
[15:33:31] < Sir_Lewk> http://www.pages.drexel.edu/~jlg95/link_power.c.txt
[15:43:14] <@E-J> http://www.ironsky.net/
[15:50:14] <+_krisk_> woot new house
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[15:57:07] <+_krisk_> bah
[15:57:21] <+_krisk_> whats the best way in windows to forbid an app from starting up
[15:58:03] < Milayrdo> The best way in windows is to forbid windows from starting up
[15:58:16] <+_krisk_> the second best way then
[15:58:28] <@E-J> _krisk_: rename the exe
[15:58:35] < Milayrdo> msconfig
[15:58:38] < Milayrdo> fool
[15:58:40] <+_krisk_> hmm
[15:58:44] < Sir_Lewk> delete cmd.exe
[15:59:07] < Milayrdo> delete explorer.exe
[15:59:10] <+_krisk_> actually i keep having to remove it from msconfig becacuse it puts itself back or that part of my registry is being reset all the time for some reason
[15:59:26] < Sir_Lewk> also, I hear "bash" is a really nasty linux virus, you should delete it if you have it on your systems
[15:59:30] < Milayrdo> WTF
[15:59:41] < Milayrdo> why are you logged on as Admi then?
[15:59:44] < Milayrdo> *admin
[15:59:44] <+_krisk_> every time some program scans removable drives (for exaample ofr media library) aactivesync starts up and puts itself back in the startup
[16:00:11] <+_krisk_> why wouldnt i run with admin rights
[16:00:17] <+_krisk_> be logged in
[16:00:23] < Milayrdo> Log on as an unprivliged user, and evlevate permissions when necessary
[16:00:27] < Sir_Lewk> yes, I use KDE as root all the time
[16:00:41] < Milayrdo> sudo FTW
[16:00:54] <+_krisk_> why would i bother, this pc has never ever had spyware because im just that awesome
[16:00:56] < Sir_Lewk> also I use IRC and surf the web with firefox as root as often as possible
[16:01:08] < Milayrdo> Active Sync is spyware
[16:01:13] <+_krisk_> no
[16:01:31] < Milayrdo> In my opinions that is
[16:01:41] <+_krisk_> its obtrusive but in no way spyware
[16:01:55] <+_krisk_> though i think it may be a hardware problem since windows keeps scanning my harddrive for errors even though it should stop doing that on boot after one time
[16:02:11] <+_krisk_> maybe it keeps restoring a part of the registry file during that
[16:02:27] < Milayrdo> who is says your logg on as john Sir_Lewk 
[16:02:31] < Milayrdo> not root
[16:05:20] <+_krisk_> hurhur renaming it causes a microsoft setup window to run and reinstall it
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[16:06:39] <+_krisk_> it really wouldnt be a problem if activesync just had an option to exit/close itself
[16:07:18] <+_krisk_> anyone happen to know the command line stuff for killing processes?
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[16:08:42] <@efneTI92> [Spengo] En Taro Adun, Executor
[16:08:45] <+_krisk_> neverm ind got it
[16:15:04] < Sir_Lewk> "<Milayrdo> sudo FTW"  I do the same with 'su' just fine ;)
[16:15:20] < Grue> There's no use for su when you have sudo
[16:15:21] < Grue> Seriously
[16:15:32] <@E-J> yep
[16:15:33] < Grue> It's a security risk, a stupidity risk, and you can do su in sudo
[16:16:15] <+_krisk_> wait, i think its my phone that actually tells windows to use activesync every time something tries to access it over usb
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[16:16:42] < Sir_Lewk> how is it a security risk?
[16:17:14] < Sir_Lewk> unless you are implying that the binary has a remotely exploitable flaw, it's just as secure
[16:18:47] < Sir_Lewk> if someone get's physical access, you're hosed no-matter what you are using
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[16:19:32] <+_krisk_> woot nuke activesync.bat
[16:19:42] < Sir_Lewk> I see no reason for sudo if I am the only person who will *ever* require root privileges on this system
[16:20:27] < Sir_Lewk> you can always just alias sudo to 'su -c' if you are that in love with just doing one command at a time
[16:20:49] <+_krisk_> what would happen if a laptop (no battery lulz) with lemonade all over its insides were to be immerged in warm water for an hour or so then dried and turned on
[16:21:15] < Sir_Lewk> my father spilt icetea all over his laptop once
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[16:21:43] < Sir_Lewk> disassembled it and washed it down with rubbing alcohol and it was fine for the most part
[16:22:12] < Sir_Lewk> if you do that, make sure everything in the laptop has had time to discharge (capacitors and whatnot)
[16:22:39] <+_krisk_> well i took off most keys and washed them with alcohol but they still respond sticky and stuff and i dont want to break even more keys than i already have by taking them out again
[16:22:57] < Sir_Lewk> can you remove the entire keyboard
[16:22:59] < Sir_Lewk> ?
[16:22:59] <+_krisk_> well its sat on my cloest for a week with no battery in it
[16:23:03] <+_krisk_> i dont know
[16:23:08] <+_krisk_> and i dont know how to find out
[16:23:09] < Sir_Lewk> on my thinkpad the entire thing lifts out
[16:23:27] < Sir_Lewk> the manual would probably say if you have it around
[16:23:28] <+_krisk_> how long does it take for things to discharge?
[16:23:35] < Sir_Lewk> might be able to call the manafacturer too
[16:23:37] < Sir_Lewk> gtg
[16:25:17] <+_krisk_> if i can get it cleaned up ill give it to my sister for her college studies
[16:25:39] <+_krisk_> guess ill email them and see if i can use the last month of my warantee
[16:28:29] <+_krisk_> lolwut theyre advertising gf9800gt with 128cores!
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[17:13:37] <@efneTI92> [Sir_Lewk] Give me a biscuit, I will do science to it
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[17:38:04] <@efneTI92> [Tari_] Remember, remember the 5th of November
[17:38:14] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v Tari_] by SnowCrash
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[17:48:55] <+tifreak> oh wow, so much activity!
[17:49:07] <+_krisk_> :O
[17:49:21]  * tifreak faints from the activity overload
[17:51:39] <+tifreak> man... something about the weather today, makes me want to go find a nice shady place to curl up and go to sleep :/
[17:59:14] < Nikky> nerd
[17:59:39] <+tifreak> Gots a problem with that?
[17:59:56] <+_krisk_> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6529481301858251744
[18:01:10] < i_c-Y> oh snap
[18:06:04] <+tifreak> bye
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[18:36:48] < i_c-Y> freaks.
[18:36:56] <+_krisk_> :?
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[18:40:53] < i_c-Y> the examples are so useless for this program
[18:41:12] <+_krisk_> :?
[18:41:18] < i_c-Y> wincupl
[18:43:59] < Netham45> I hate wincupl
[18:44:12] < Netham45> if you have a space in the name of a file you are compiling, it'll crash.
[18:44:36] < Netham45> http://www.steampowered.com/status/survey.html
[18:44:42] < Netham45> xD under physical CPUs
[18:44:46] < Netham45> 127 cpus	3	0.00 %
[18:44:58] < Netham45> I want one of those. :D
[18:45:55] <+_krisk_> gaming on cluster?
[18:46:07] < Netham45> lol
[18:46:48] <+_krisk_> wow 10% have gf8800s
[18:47:39] < Netham45> yea
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[18:57:03] < i_c-Y> atleast people dont multibox
[18:57:43] <+ports_> i have a giant excel sheet... and i need to put boxes around groups of 4 cells.. any quick way to do that?
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[19:01:16] < i_c-Y> drag around each block, right click -> format
[19:01:22] < i_c-Y> and add appropriate borders.
[19:11:34] <+_krisk_> then select and extend selection?
[19:14:00] <+_krisk_> jup, works in excel xp
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[19:30:43] <@E-J> now: canada-usa from tv
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[19:48:42] < Netham45> yay!
[19:48:46] < Netham45> got my new PSP screen
[19:49:20] < Netham45> wow, I ordered this on Friday
[19:54:36] < moko|586> not bad
[19:55:22] < Netham45> yea
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[20:03:16] <@efneTI92> [Sir_Lewk] Give me a biscuit, I will do science to it
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[20:17:10] < Spengo> was the old one broken?
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[20:18:49] < Netham45> yea
[20:21:43] < Randomist> Yay, I am signed up for driving school now... but I've got to memorize eighty-something things perfectly before my first class two weeks from now.  :S
[20:22:09] <+Tari_> wtf
[20:22:11] <+Tari_> er, wait
[20:22:20] <+Tari_> pay me no mind
[20:22:22] <+_krisk_> driving should be second nature, learning that shouldnt interfere with jamming things in your mind for a day
[20:22:41] < Netham45> Remind me never to drive in texas.
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[20:23:18] <+_krisk_> hehe
[20:23:36] <+Speler> Hey peep's
[20:23:40] <+_krisk_> lu
[20:23:53] <+Speler> Sup?
[20:24:22] < Netham45> heya
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[20:28:15] < Randomist> I coveted a TI-89(T) for so long... and now that I finally have one, it is like it really isn't that interesting anymore.  :P
[20:30:25] <+ports_> Randomist, ill trade you a ti89hw2 for it
[20:33:16] < Randomist> Which TiEmu am I supposed to get, the one with GDB or without?
[20:35:21] < Randomist> Nevermind.
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[20:47:45] <+ports_> i wish i had a ti89t
[20:50:39] < Netham45> I did the same thing
[20:50:52] < Netham45> I wanted an 89 for ever, but when I got one, it got old real fast.
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[20:55:12] <@efneTI92> [DSPLord] *waves hand* You will give me +v.
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[20:59:54] < Randomist> I guess the latest version of TIGCC is .95?
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[21:05:08] <@E-J> http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/2032/hockey2008wi4.jpg
[21:06:32] < Randomist> lo
[21:06:35] < Randomist> l
[21:13:34] < Randomist> Time to go give myself yet another nosebleed with more spicy food.  :P
[21:16:08] <@E-J> http://www.crap.fi/archive/6442.jpg
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[21:23:00] <@E-J> usa could win this game
[21:23:38] <@E-J> canada was on lead 3-0 and now it's 4-4
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[21:29:25] < Randomist> Ooh, I'm gonna feel this burn for the rest of the night...
[21:30:49] < Randomist> Hahaha... what a pick-up line that would be, "[Groans]  My heart is burning for you..."
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[21:47:38] <@E-J> canada made a goal
[21:51:38] <@E-J> and won
[21:53:27] <@benryves> Ice hockey, I assume, E-J?
[21:53:35] <@E-J> yah
[21:54:07] <@E-J> canada-usa, usa dominated all the time
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[22:37:56] < i_c-Y> thats because all canada has is hockey
[22:39:42] <@E-J> mostly players of usa have some attitude problems, and they have lost games against weaker countries, like few years ago denmark beat them 5-2
[22:42:53] <@E-J> this time they played good and only bad luck and thing that canada's goalie made great saves make things like this
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[23:01:07] <@efneTI92> [prime38] I’ve used one adjective to describe myself. What is it?
[23:01:17] < prime38> [prime38] I’ve used one adjective to describe myself. What is it?
[23:04:06] < Randomist> o.o
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[23:04:25] <@efneTI92> [DSPLord] *waves hand* You will give me +v.
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[23:17:06] < Nikky> ...
[23:17:11] < Nikky> prime is a tard
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[23:22:22] <@efneTI92> [prime38] I’ve used one adjective to describe myself. What is it?
[23:22:29] < prime38> [prime38] I’ve used one adjective to describe myself. What is it?
[23:22:36] < prime38> E-J: take what off?
[23:24:18] < Nikky> !k prime38 
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[23:25:36] < prime38> umm, amd i not allowed to talk anymore or something?
[23:25:44] < Grue> !seen JJB6486
[23:25:46] < Nikky> You know why you're being kicked.
[23:25:47] <@efneTI86> I found 3 matches to your query (sorted): Graywuff JJB6486 dabomb409. Graywuff (network@74-140-58-102.dhcp.insightbb.com) was last seen quitting from #tcpa 112 days, 21 hours ago stating ().
[23:25:52] < Nikky> Don't pretend to play cute.
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[23:36:38] <@efneTI92> [DSPLord] *waves hand* You will give me +v.
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[23:51:14] <@efneTI92> [Spengo] En Taro Adun, Executor
[23:52:19] < Barrett> Nikky: your woman is SCUBA certified?
[23:53:12] < Barrett> you should go diving with her and make out under water with all of the gear on and stuff
[23:54:06] < Spengo> bleh
[23:54:22] < Spengo> there are no good shooting ranges near me that do not cost a crapload of money to join their club
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[23:54:47] <@efneTI92> [DSP_Lord] *waves hand* You will give me +v.
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[23:58:49] <@E-J> prime38: thing that you repeat the greet message every time you join
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