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[00:05:39] <@Grue> No more killing Netham45 :(
[00:06:45] <+tifreak> brb..
[00:13:50] < Randomist> Crap.  PedroM won't work with HW4, I guess.
[00:15:39] < Randomist> I'm glad I backed up my apps.
[00:27:07] < prime38> you are going to screw that calculator up, i just know it
[00:28:19] < Nikky> No, he isn't.
[00:28:27] < Nikky> Randomist is probably smarter than you
[00:34:25] < Merth> Nikky: is he smarter than me?
[00:35:05] < Nikky> no
[00:35:11] < Merth> :)
[00:38:37] <+tifreak> lol
[00:39:08] <+tifreak> lol people with no drivers licenses... <.<
[00:39:27] <+tifreak> and now I have their car! :D
[00:39:39] <@DarkAuron> ?
[00:39:55] < Nikky> nice!
[00:40:19] <+tifreak> yay for towing cars
[00:40:21] <+tifreak> XD
[00:40:29] <+tifreak> I have to say, I have seen some cool ones :)
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[00:41:47] < tifreak14> wtf...
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[00:42:28] <+tifreak> anyways.. did I miss anything? :P
[00:43:05] < Randomist> Damn, some of these apps want a lot of RAM... like, all of it...
[00:43:13] < Randomist> 180k is a lot...
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[00:43:42] <@DarkAuron> I thought ti-89 had like 290k 
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[00:44:16] < Randomist> The OS must be using up a ton of that.
[00:44:19] < Nikky> it does
[00:44:20] < Randomist> I just reset all.
[00:44:59] < Randomist> And 190k is all I get free.
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[00:48:44] <@DarkAuron> hmm
[00:48:50] <@DarkAuron> maybe I was think 190k then
[00:51:11] < Randomist> I'm reading the Wiki.  It says it has 256k RAM, but 190k of it is accessible the user.
[00:52:42] < moko|586> mmkay, so I'm gonna be using this for IRC for a couple weeks, I think.
[00:57:57] < Netham45> why?
[00:59:46] < moko|586> I've packed my other server, and I've got to move again in a week anyway
[01:04:14] < Randomist> I wonder if Windows has a program that lets you install apps into bottles like on CrossOver.
[01:05:27] < Randomist> That way, it doesn't install all that stuff into the registry and folders
[01:05:48] < Randomist> And I can try out lots of software without having to worry about it slowing down my comp a little bit more every time.
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[01:09:49] < prime38> Randomist: look up something called mojopac
[01:10:45] < boxknife> Does anyone know about calculating cache miss penalty?
[01:10:52] < prime38> it was made with using it on flashdrives in mind, but you can install it onto your har4d drive as well
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[01:11:42] < i_c-Y> Randomist: u3 if youre using flashdrives
[01:11:54] < i_c-Y> mojopac is pretty lame
[01:12:38] < Randomist> No, I need it for hard drives, 'cause I don't want to install applications to the system (unless I really have to) if it's going to slow things down even after I uninstall it 'cause it leaves stuff behind.
[01:12:52] < i_c-Y> why dont you just virtualize windows?
[01:13:07] < i_c-Y> other than the fact that your hw sucks.
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[01:14:20] < tifreak25> that was annoying... that time, the dialup went out <.<
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[01:15:09] < Randomist> I'm trying to Google for some software that does that, but I don't know the proper term
[01:15:21] < i_c-Y> virtualbox?
[01:15:22] < i_c-Y> vmware?
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[01:16:52] < Randomist> I'm not wanting to visualize the whole OS though.  Just make it so that when I want to uninstall something, I can just delete that bottle or something and it'll remove _everything_ that program's created en that environment and leave nothing behind
[01:17:55] < i_c-Y> then try mojopac.
[01:18:02] < Randomist> I think Im looking for a sandbox.
[01:18:52] < Randomist> 'k
[01:25:12] < Randomist> i_c-Y:  Even if I do use that, if I un-install something from the MojoPac environment, doesn't it still leave stuff behind in the environment that'll eventually make it slow down over time, too?
[01:27:31] < Randomist> Hm, Sandboxie seems exactly like what I'm looking for.
[01:28:19] < Randomist> I don't even think I'll even have to use an antivirus program with Windows if I use that
[01:28:21] <@Andy_J> The solution to this is to not use Windows.
[01:28:22] <+Speler_> _3fg, want to hear something awesome?!?!  I got stuck in line with Matt Stewart yesterday :D
[01:28:27] <@Andy_J> That's the only way to be sure.
[01:29:04] <@DarkAuron> 3fg?
[01:29:54] < Randomist> Andy_J:  Yeah, but Windows hardware support still pwns.
[01:30:11] < Nikky> DarkAuron: What about _3fg?
[01:30:12] < Randomist> My 89 barely works on Linux
[01:30:25] < i_c-Y> the solution is to stop doing stupid shit in windows
[01:30:49] < i_c-Y> Randomist: doing stuff like running virus.exe is usually not a good idea.
[01:31:58] < Randomist> I'm not that dumb.  But I like to try out a bunch of programs at once and see which of them I like best, instead of relying on opinions.
[01:32:25] < Randomist> And doing this normally makes my comp get really slow really fast even after uninstalling all the stuff.
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[01:34:06] <@efneTI86> [TimMc] TimMc is solving the Rubik's Cube in 26.34 seconds!
[01:34:09] < Randomist> I can do that on Linux with no problem 'cause the package manager removes all traces of the software if I don't want it no more, and it doesn't slow down anything
[01:34:24] < Randomist> But on Windows... yeah... not so good.
[01:34:31] <@Andy_J> so use virtual machines and rollbacks
[01:34:41] <@Andy_J> and then when you decide you like something install it into the host OS
[01:35:50] < Randomist> My comp is way too crappy to do it that way.
[01:36:36] < Randomist> And that takes too long.
[01:39:46] < Randomist> Even if my cheesy comp could handle the virtualiztion  stuff, I still would have to spend money I don't have on more hard drive space and memory
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[02:03:38] < Nikky> Listen to this IRC server
[02:03:40] < Nikky> 54 users
[02:03:44] < Nikky> guess how many of those are opers
[02:03:48] <@Andy_J> 53?
[02:04:01] < Nikky> 14
[02:04:02] < moko|586> 56?
[02:04:13] <@Grue> it's called services, Nikky 
[02:04:26] < Nikky> I'm choosing to ignore you.
[02:04:32] <@Grue> ...
[02:04:57] < moko|586> you're obviously failing.
[02:05:53] < Nikky> :(
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[02:12:26] < Barrett> yay... I'm going to mexico for the baja 500
[02:12:44] < chronomex> sounds epic
[02:14:06] < Barrett> 500 mile offroad motorcycle race in baja california
[02:14:17] < Barrett> plus other classes of vehicles
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[02:21:33] < Barrett> my brothers also compete in the baja 1000
[02:21:35] < Barrett> (1000 miles)
[02:21:40] < Barrett> but unfortunately it's in november so i'm in school
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[02:49:37] < _3fg> titty sambo
[02:50:14] <+TD-Linux> Randomist, what proc do you have?
[02:50:29] < Randomist> VIA C7-D.
[02:50:39]  * Randomist hides.
[02:51:25] < i_c-Y> i want to try that VIA issah
[02:52:25] < Randomist> Really this comp is no good for anything but being a server.
[02:52:40] < Randomist> And typing up stuff.
[02:53:48] < i_c-Y> well consider what it was intended to do
[02:54:27] < Randomist> [Hippie voice:]  "Save the trees, dude!"
[02:55:29] < tifreak> save the trees... kill a randomist? o.O
[02:55:36] < tifreak> no, wait, that doesn't sound right...
[02:55:51] < tifreak> :P
[02:56:41] < i_c-Y> kill a randomist.
[02:56:43] < i_c-Y> that sounds right.
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[03:22:52] <@Grue> Eww VIA
[03:26:04] < i_c-Y> the issiah looks cool.
[03:26:14] < i_c-Y> isaiah whatever
[03:27:21] < Randomist> ticalc needs a sort by number of downloads thing.
[03:28:56] < Barrett> no it doesn't
[03:29:25] < Randomist> Does it have one already?
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[03:30:21] < Peter_W> Troll Hungry!
[03:30:29] < Peter_W> Oh wait, errr.. I can explain
[03:30:33] < chronomex> it'd be hopelessly out of date
[03:30:38] < chronomex> the index pages are static
[03:30:41] < Randomist> Oh
[03:30:43] < chronomex> and they take ages to generate
[03:30:46] < Randomist> Ew, static pages.
[03:30:48] < chronomex> no
[03:30:53] < chronomex> they're awesome for caching
[03:31:00] < chronomex> drop the system load way down :)
[03:31:05] < chronomex> seriously
[03:31:10] < Barrett> CG used to have cached pages
[03:31:19] < chronomex> the 83+basic math index takes like 2 minutes to generate
[03:31:19] < Barrett> I would have redone it but it was a pain to code
[03:31:27] < chronomex> haha
[03:32:29] < Randomist> I wonder if that MIDI program for 68k plays with real instruments or if it is just beeps.
[03:32:42] < Barrett> more pageviews than pages == (caching == good)
[03:33:18] < Randomist> There's no 89 emulator for Linux that has sound support
[03:35:15] < chronomex> Barrett: yessss
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[03:36:18] < Randomist> I am surprised there is no ImpulseTracker clone for 68ks... I heard in some documentation that the 68ks are fast enough to played sampled audio and gray-scale graphics at the same time.
[03:36:46] < Randomist> * play ... animated graphics
[03:40:24] < chronomex> I don't doubt it
[03:40:37] < chronomex> animated greyscale takes ~5-10% CPU iiuc
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[03:40:51] <@efneTI89> OMG where is aardvarq
[03:41:23] <@Andy_J> That's a good question.
[03:41:36] <@Andy_J> Because I need someone to fix ssh on mirabel.
[03:43:17] < chronomex> aaaaaardy
[03:43:19] < chronomex> come back!
[03:43:57] <@Andy_J> Because I need at my svn repository <_<
[03:44:33] < chronomex> >_>
[03:46:46] < Randomist> What happened after 2005?  Development in the 68k games was booming in 2004/2005, and then it just dropped like a stone after that.
[03:47:08] < Randomist> At least according to the ASM games section of ticalc.
[03:47:31] <@Grue> People got a life.
[03:47:37] <@Grue> Maybe you should try it? :)
[03:47:53] <@Grue> People get bored of calculators...
[03:49:04] < Randomist> I'd argue that there's new people all the time, but I can't 'cause we got all the small portable devices around now.
[03:50:20] <@Andy_J> everyone got a real job
[03:50:29] < chronomex> I didn't :)
[03:50:42] <@Grue> Smoocher
[03:50:49] <@Grue> Slacker
[03:50:51] <@Grue> Freeloader
[03:50:56] < chronomex> gbah
[03:51:05] < Randomist> I wonder how long until the "calculator community" dies (or gets really small).
[03:51:17] <+ports_> Randomist, welcome to 3 years ago
[03:51:44] < i_c-Y> it wont die 
[03:51:46] < _3fg> it died in 2004 or 2005
[03:52:10] < Randomist> Not nessesarily the community, but the development
[03:52:23] < chronomex> I'm trying to get mha to give me data so I can chart it
[03:52:26] <+ports_>  then use the correct word ass
[03:52:57] <@Andy_J> ^
[03:52:59] < chronomex> ooo burn
[03:53:22]  * Randomist has bad diction skills.
[03:53:24] < _3fg> mha chronomex
[03:53:25] < _3fg> ?
[03:53:44] <+ports_> then dont speak in public?
[03:53:56] <+ports_> that's mean, but true...  
[03:54:08] < chronomex> you should have had some skin taken off before so you could get a transplant
[03:54:14] <+ports_> the community has been shrinking.. and so has development.. the classroom backing on TI is dwindling.
[03:54:50] <+ports_> especially post high school. all the classroom emphasis is on computerized computational methods
[03:58:09] <+ports_> sweet i killed the conversation
[03:58:29] < Peter_W> heh
[03:58:37] < Peter_W> no, I think the conversation did
[03:58:52] < Barrett> the community died 5 years ago
[03:58:57] < Barrett> it's not getting worse
[03:59:00] < Barrett> it's just dead
[03:59:34] < _3fg> I firmly believe the TI-Community basically died when Sam whatshisname left
[03:59:49] <+ports_> who
[03:59:57] < Randomist> The dude that made Mario 2.0 SAM?
[03:59:57] < _3fg> the guy who made like every game
[03:59:59] < Randomist> * Sam?
[04:00:51] < _3fg> Sam Heald
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[04:00:52] < Peter_W> Seam Heald or whatever?\
[04:00:55] < Peter_W> lol
[04:01:01] < Peter_W> bingo
[04:01:23] < i_c-Y> yeah it is pretty dead 
[04:01:46] < chronomex> yes
[04:01:46] < chronomex> so?
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[04:02:04] < i_c-Y> all you have are a bunch of burn outs making stuff that nobody cares about outside of a few IRC channels
[04:02:21] <+ports_> i actually dont make anything
[04:02:25] < chronomex> hey it's _3fg !
[04:02:28] < _3fg> I don't either
[04:02:29] < _3fg> sup
[04:02:36] < chronomex> so guyz http://b0.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/00238/06/57/238817560_l.jpg what do you think?
[04:02:40] < chronomex> hit or run?
[04:02:48] < _3fg> no comment
[04:02:53] < i_c-Y> run
[04:02:55] < chronomex> I'm leaning strongly to "RUN LIKE THE WIND"
[04:03:00] < i_c-Y> or hit with a car 
[04:03:12] < i_c-Y> though that might be bad for the car
[04:03:15] < chronomex> hahahaha
[04:03:28] <+ports_> hey... how do i get the bot to do math for me?
[04:03:41] < Randomist> I think that bot is ogne.
[04:03:43] < Randomist> * gone
[04:03:57] < Randomist> If not then:
[04:04:01] <+ports_> damn
[04:04:01] < Randomist> !calc 2+2
[04:04:09] <+ports_> i need the arcsin of 88.9deg
[04:04:14] < Randomist> Yeah, it's gone (or it doesn't like me).
[04:04:19] < chronomex> oh yeah that pic goes with http://lispurl.com/cdadadadaddddr (okcupid, obscured to prevent her from finding this with google)
[04:06:16] < i_c-Y> lets keep this g rated, chronomex 
[04:07:00] < moko|586> meh
[04:07:07] < moko|586> it's too late for the kiddies to be up anyway
[04:07:17] < Randomist> I thought this was an R-rated channel to begin with?
[04:07:25] < i_c-Y> lies
[04:07:26] < moko|586> not when MV is around
[04:07:37] < Randomist> PG when that.
[04:07:43] < _3fg> G
[04:07:53] < chronomex> i_c-Y: nothing wrong with what I'm posting ...
[04:07:55] < Randomist> Or DarkAuron, who sometimes contradicts the rating.  :P
[04:08:03] < chronomex> ha
[04:08:18] < Peter_W> ports_: calcgames has a math bot
[04:08:23] < Peter_W> dunno about trig
[04:08:34] <+ports_> i got vti open now
[04:08:38] < Peter_W> :P
[04:08:54] < Randomist> I hate the key arrangement on this thing.
[04:08:59] < moko|586> #haskell has a crazy awesome bot
[04:09:00] < Randomist> I can't type worth crap.
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[04:09:49] < aardvarq> Is it written in haskell?
[04:09:53] < ahremane> chronomex: hit, preferably with elephant gun
[04:10:00] < moko|586> aardvarq: Yes.
[04:10:02] <@Andy_J> hey it's aardy
[04:10:07] < moko|586> I know, right!
[04:10:08] <@Andy_J> aardvarq: ssh is broken on mirabel
[04:10:12] < aardvarq> GOD DAMN IT
[04:10:22] < Randomist> Wow.
[04:10:30]  * i_c-Y looks for the appropriate motivational poster
[04:10:31] <@Andy_J> {502} ajanata@hawkeye:~$ ssh mirabel.epfarms.org
[04:10:31] <@Andy_J> ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
[04:10:39] < aardvarq> WTF I can't even connect.
[04:10:48] < moko|586> wow, that's a fairly odd error.
[04:10:51] < moko|586> oh wait
[04:11:01] < moko|586> fairly odd prompt , rather
[04:11:02] <@Andy_J> It gives me the same thing from a box without my private key
[04:11:17] <@Andy_J> I've been learning to use !histnum stuff
[04:11:23] <@Andy_J> so it's nice to have the number there
[04:11:33] < moko|586> ooooooooh
[04:11:34] < moko|586> *that*s what that is
[04:12:02] <@Andy_J> \!
[04:12:33] < chronomex> Andy_J: my prompt:  [duncan:21:16:13 0 ~ !501]$ 
[04:12:46] < Randomist> How up-to-date is CalcG's database compared to TI's?
[04:12:46] < chronomex> user:time stopped-jobs directory !history
[04:12:47] <+ports_> anyone here know about root locus?
[04:12:48] < moko|586> what's the 0?
[04:12:53] < Randomist> * Ticalcs's
[04:13:02] < moko|586> interesting
[04:13:04] <@Andy_J> stopped jobs could be handy
[04:13:06] < chronomex> it is
[04:13:14] < chronomex> more than !history in fact
[04:13:17] < chronomex> I don't use !history
[04:13:17] < moko|586> chronomex: what's $PS1?
[04:13:18] <@Andy_J> though I don't stop jobs often
[04:13:23] < chronomex> moko|586: insanely long
[04:13:27] < chronomex> like 200chars
[04:13:35] < moko|586> hol ycrap
[04:13:42] < chronomex> er, 130
[04:13:44] < moko|586> do you have colors and crap, too?
[04:13:44] < chronomex> it's a bit gaudy
[04:13:46] < chronomex> yes
[04:13:47] < chronomex> lots
[04:13:51] < moko|586> aargh
[04:13:56] < chronomex> wh?
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[04:14:03] < moko|586> gg
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[04:14:21] < chronomex> whatwhat
[04:14:36] < i_c-Y> MV is a dbag
[04:14:37] <@Andy_J> anyway I want to get type analysis done tonight <_<
[04:14:46] < moko|586> type analysis?
[04:14:46] <@Andy_J> at least I only have "short" and "label" data types
[04:14:58] <@Andy_J> Teeny Tiny BASIC compiler for my compilers class
[04:15:03] < moko|586> oh
[04:15:06] <@Andy_J> grammar http://scorehero.pastebin.com/d3221ad83
[04:15:13] < moko|586> /poke ahremane 
[04:15:43] < ahremane> moko: im still alive
[04:15:54] < moko|586> Andy_J:     * Unknown post id, it may have expired or been deleted
[04:16:12] <@Andy_J> http://scorehero.pastebin.com/m10ff420f then
[04:16:15] <@Andy_J> re--posted
[04:17:41] < moko|586> not too shabby
[04:17:51] < moko|586> I wrote a LC1 assembler in Haskell the other day
[04:18:00] < moko|586> spent 3 hours on it, worked great for what I needed.
[04:18:22] < moko|586> and to quote a guy in my electrical engineering class: "why the fuck aren't you a CS?"
[04:18:25] <@Andy_J> We made a Pascal- (take pascal and make it very minimal) compiler for the term project
[04:18:29] <@Andy_J> not quite done with it yet...
[04:18:47] < moko|586> my ELEC project was an LC1 simulator in MSP430 assembly
[04:18:56] < moko|586> that was fun
[04:18:59] <@Andy_J> need to finish type analysis and code generation
[04:19:04] <@Andy_J> for the pascal- one
[04:19:13] < moko|586> ooh, code generation
[04:19:16] <@Andy_J> for this ttb one, I need to do type analysis and code generation
[04:19:25] < moko|586> guess that's kinda necessary for a compiler
[04:19:32] <@Andy_J> we're going to a "Pascal Virtual Machine" for the pascal- one
[04:19:44] <@Andy_J> and 8086 for TTB
[04:19:53] < moko|586> 8086 ....... why?
[04:19:55] <@Andy_J> with a library for input and output
[04:20:10] <@Andy_J> well, x86, but in such a way that would run on an 8086 I would think
[04:20:21] <@Andy_J> Anything that can run DOS.
[04:20:26] < moko|586> hmm... you'll have trouble running that code on a recent machine, though
[04:20:41] < moko|586> I don't think 64-bit OSes like 8086-mode
[04:20:45] <@Andy_J> It's going to MASM and MASM makes the executable. But we're just using 16-bit assembly
[04:21:09] <@Andy_J> The MASM requirement was rather strict -\
[04:21:11] <@Andy_J> we fought it
[04:21:11] < moko|586> x86 is also madness :P
[04:21:22] <@Andy_J> I found old DOS version of MASM
[04:21:23] < aardvarq> Andy_J: fixed
[04:21:26] <@Andy_J> and it seems to run fine in dosbox
[04:21:29] <@Andy_J> aardvarq: thanks!
[04:21:31]  * Andy_J checks code in
[04:21:36] < moko|586> aardvarq: Anything interesting wrong with it?
[04:21:51] < aardvarq> Nothing that apt-get install --reinstall openssh-server didn't fix.
[04:22:15] < aardvarq> The tricky part was running apt-get install --reinstall openssh-server without using SSH.
[04:22:26] <@Andy_J> huh
[04:22:29] <@Andy_J> still not working for me
[04:22:57] < aardvarq> shift-reload
[04:23:00]  * aardvarq snickers
[04:23:07] <@Andy_J> Ok :p
[04:23:21] < aardvarq> It didn't work for me when you told me. Now it does.
[04:23:25] < aardvarq> (for me)
[04:23:38] < aardvarq> ssh -v
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[04:23:41] < aardvarq> And tell me the error.
[04:23:57] <@Andy_J> OpenSSH_4.7p1, OpenSSL 0.9.7l 28 Sep 2006
[04:24:00] <@Andy_J> on both boxes
[04:24:08] <@Andy_J> oh now it's working
[04:24:37] < aardvarq> Yeah the change probably didn't propagate through DNS yet.
[04:24:42]  * aardvarq snickers again
[04:25:07] <@Andy_J> ok this is weird
[04:26:31] <@Andy_J> ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
[04:26:36] <@Andy_J> It let me in once. Now it isn't again.
[04:27:54] < aardvarq> I'll do a hard reset of SSH. Though that will log you out.
[04:28:44] <@Andy_J> well, it still seems to be a bit wonky, but I managed to get my SVN commit through
[04:29:01] <@Andy_J> and that's all I really needed to do
[04:30:22] < aardvarq> Oh wow thunderbird sucks so much.
[04:30:26] < moko|586> you should be using SVN over HTTP anyway
[04:31:05] < aardvarq> You'd think I'd be at a point now where thunderbird could not possibly shock me with how horrible it is.
[04:31:05] <@Andy_J> svn+ssh works fine
[04:31:16] <@Andy_J> and this is my personal repository
[04:31:23] < moko|586> aardvarq: what crawled up your bum and died =D
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[04:31:46] <@Andy_J> I'm not impressed with thunderbird either yet I'm still using it...
[04:31:56] < moko|586> I'm not really *impressed* with it
[04:32:01] < moko|586> but it's good enough
[04:32:05] <@Andy_J> I should give Mail another go
[04:32:18] <@Andy_J> Haven't tried teh 10.5 one yet
[04:32:18] < aardvarq> Thunderbird has reached a new low in stability wherein double-clicking the thunderbird icon on my desktop brings up a dialog box that says "Thunderbird.exe has encountered a problem and needs to close."
[04:32:24] < i_c-Y> windows live mail is surprisingly good.
[04:32:37] < i_c-Y> though now a days i pretty much use webmail
[04:32:41] < aardvarq> Instantaneously.
[04:32:55] < moko|586> aardvarq: Wow.
[04:33:13] < moko|586> i_c-Y: I thought it was pretty much Outlook Expressed polished with Vista look and feel
[04:33:53] < i_c-Y> it has improvements. i leave it up to benryves to defend it.
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[04:35:20] < Dalapuron> I wish there was a way to disable that dividing line between users and their messages
[04:35:25] < Dalapuron> in xchat
[04:35:46] < Dalapuron> it's a severe waste of space, even if it 'lines up
[04:35:54] < Dalapuron> 'lines up' everything*
[04:36:16] < i_c-Y> disable indent nicknames?
[04:36:28] < i_c-Y> that takes it away
[04:36:30] < chronomex> lines are cool, guys
[04:36:31] < i_c-Y> but thats pretty dumb
[04:36:34] < aardvarq> Reinstalling restored it to it's normal state of crashing after starting up.
[04:36:47] < Dalapuron> hmm
[04:37:00] < i_c-Y> settings -> prefs
[04:37:22] < Dalapuron> testing
[04:37:27] < Dalapuron> yeaaaaaaah
[04:37:32] < Dalapuron> that's a ton better
[04:38:12] < Dalapuron> still need to tweak more but getting better
[04:38:39] < Dalapuron> i_c-Y, does xchat support multiple servers?
[04:38:45] < i_c-Y> ...yes?
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[04:38:51] < i_c-Y> im on like 6 right now?
[04:38:52] < moko|586> Dalapuron: Of course it does.
[04:39:08] < i_c-Y> now 4.
[04:40:41] <@Andy_J> the only client that doesn't is telnet
[04:40:55] < i_c-Y> lies.
[04:41:01] < moko|586> Andy_J: PocketIRC.
[04:41:14] < i_c-Y> telnet into a bnc. problem solved.
[04:41:14] <@Andy_J> ok, mainstream computer
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[04:41:29] <@efneTI86> [DarkAuron] We called it Sin.
[04:41:44] < Peter_W> hmm
[04:42:25] < Peter_W> so there's this girl in my class for next year, and her interests include "Cheerleading" "Paintball" and...
[04:42:34] < Dalapuron> i_c-Y: then how do you connect to another server?
[04:42:39] < moko|586> Peter_W: and your point is?
[04:42:40] < Dalapuron> without disconnecting from the current one
[04:42:41] < Peter_W> "Rifle Marksmanship"
[04:42:48] < moko|586> gotcha
[04:42:50] <@Andy_J> new server tab
[04:42:56] < i_c-Y> Dalapuron: the bnc is connected to other servers :)
[04:43:00] < i_c-Y> but yeah, ctrl t
[04:43:08] < Dalapuron> ah okay
[04:43:09] < Peter_W> armed cheerleaders! o.o
[04:43:22] < Dalapuron> I'm used to mIRC where I type /server -m
[04:43:24] < i_c-Y> is she hot?
[04:43:35] < Peter_W> lol
[04:43:50] < i_c-Y> oh wait
[04:43:53] < i_c-Y> you're in vermont
[04:43:57] < i_c-Y> there are no hot girls there.
[04:44:03] < Peter_W> oh please :P
[04:44:14] < Peter_W> and she's not in VT anyway
[04:44:17] < i_c-Y> just a bunch of hippie old people who are like JA JA RULES SUX
[04:44:40] < i_c-Y> plus bitches dont love guys with no bandwith :P
[04:44:52] < Dalapuron> I would use DA|laptop but I get kicked for 'impersonating Dark Alex' in #psp
[04:44:54]  * i_c-Y points and laughs at Peter_W 's "DIAL UP CONNECTION"!
[04:44:54]  * Peter_W twitches
[04:45:13] < Dalapuron> so I got creative with my laptop nick
[04:45:27]  * Peter_W begins to turn green, and grow strangely more imposing
[04:45:37]  * Andy_J climbs into the mark iii
[04:45:38] < chronomex> you're weird
[04:45:43] < Peter_W> lol
[04:46:00] < aardvarq> http://i29.tinypic.com/2j4vgaa.jpg
[04:46:16] <@Andy_J> I want gas that cheap.
[04:46:36] < Peter_W> nice one
[04:46:54] < chronomex> hah
[04:47:58] <@Grue> I need a laptop... :(
[04:48:04] <@Grue> (Being poor sucks)
[04:48:12] < Dalapuron> get an eeepc, they're not that expensive
[04:48:13] <@Andy_J> blah
[04:48:16] < Dalapuron> fun to toy with too
[04:48:37] <@Grue> If I'm gonna shell out a few hundred bucks, I'm not gonna get a "toy" laptop like the eeePC, sorry
[04:48:40]  * Andy_J wishes his laptop had al onger power cord
[04:48:46] <@Grue> Not that I have a few hundred bucks either way...
[04:49:22] < Dalapuron> Andy_J: a good feature with the eeepc is a really long power cord with no brick inbetween :P
[04:49:37] <@Andy_J> I already have 15 feet or so
[04:49:41] <@Andy_J> ok maybe only 10
[04:49:44] < Dalapuron> O.o
[04:49:49] <@Andy_J> but that isn't long enough to get from my outlet to the far side of my sofa
[04:50:00] < Dalapuron> then get a freakin extension cord, geeze
[04:50:07] <@Andy_J> ... the outlet on the surge protect I mean
[04:50:13] <@Andy_J> _or
[04:50:16] <@Andy_J> ++-_
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[05:09:02] < Dalapuron> ahaha
[05:09:09] < Dalapuron> I'm using the 360 as a mousepad
[05:09:23] < nicolas> expensive mousepad
[05:09:29] <@Grue> lol
[05:09:31] <@Grue> indeed
[05:09:41] < Dalapuron> only for height though
[05:09:47] < moko|586> I was using the analog stick to control my Wii pointer
[05:09:55] < chronomex> haha Wii pointer
[05:09:55] < Dalapuron> the actual surface sucks for the led from my mouse
[05:10:20] < nicolas> moko|586: I have to do that everytime I play GH3 ;-)
[05:10:34] < moko|586> I was pushing it in a circle, and I noticed it seemed to be 90 degrees off, and then I realized I was controlling the derivative, which for a circle is exactly 90 degrees off
[05:10:40] < moko|586> nicolas: actually, yeah, it was the GH3 controller :P
[05:10:41] <@Grue> ...silly console games... xD
[05:12:38] <@Andy_J> I still have yet to actually see GHWii IRL.
[05:13:01] < Dalapuron> had to turn the 360 the other direction
[05:13:07] < Dalapuron> it was venting heat at my leg :o
[05:13:10] <@Andy_J> protip: Take the rebate they're doing and get a 360 + real guitar hero (read: rock band)
[05:13:13] <@Andy_J> <_<
[05:13:28] <@Andy_J> wii band will be rather meh
[05:13:31] <@Andy_J> like ps2 band
[05:13:32] < Dalapuron> rock band is cool, they have radiohead on there
[05:13:45] <@Andy_J> no character customization or online play or dlc
[05:13:47] < nicolas> Andy_J: that would be awesome ... the only problem is ... wher the hell do I fit all the rock band instruments :P
[05:13:48] < Dalapuron> and downloadable portal credits
[05:13:51] < Dalapuron> :P
[05:13:56] <@Andy_J> yes
[05:14:00] <@Andy_J> still alive is such a fun song
[05:14:20] <@Andy_J> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czxTTq39Wto
[05:14:59] < nicolas> Andy_J: of course GHWii sucks a bit (apart from the sound being mono issue), because whoever did the conversion to Wii sucks
[05:15:07] < nicolas> they did a terrible job
[05:15:09] < Dalapuron> I seem to either be having DNS issues
[05:15:13] < Dalapuron> or my friend is running torrents
[05:15:28] <@Andy_J> nicolas: They're either replacing the disc for free (3-4 week turnaround) or giving you $130 to ship it back to them and be done with it
[05:15:36] < Dalapuron> as it took a whole minute to connect to youtube
[05:15:47] <@Andy_J> because of the mono issue
[05:16:03] < nicolas> Andy_J: but the guitar is cool, les paul ... with a Wii-mote in it .. which is cool cause I can use it to control Frets on Fire on my MBP :P
[05:16:13] < nicolas> Andy_J: not here in Europe, not yet at least...
[05:16:16] <@Andy_J> and I can use my 360 controller the same
[05:16:34] <@Andy_J> of course that was with a $20 controller receiver but I wanted that anyway
[05:17:04] < nicolas> last time I checked they said "we're still looking for a blah blah blah..."
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[05:19:49] < nicolas> oh wait, apparently they do now :)
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[05:20:19] <@Andy_J> at any rate don't bother with rock band on wii
[05:20:29] < millinao> Fox news: "humans vs zombies: just a college game, or a real life scare?"
[05:20:30] <@Andy_J> wait until you can afford a 360 and rock band
[05:20:49] <@Andy_J> and I do mean 360 and not ps3
[05:21:36] < millinao> oh wtf
[05:21:54] <+ports_> xbox360 is fun
[05:22:01] <+ports_> i like playing ghost recon on it
[05:22:09] < millinao> fox news' "high tech reports" is the biggest piece of garbage I've ever seen
[05:22:37] < millinao> OMG COMPUTER HACKERS ARE ATTACKING YOUR COMPUTER EVERY 40 SECONDS
[05:23:01] <@Andy_J> rock band lives almost exclusively in my 360 anymore
[05:23:06] <@Andy_J> sometimes gh2 or gh3
[05:23:19] <@Andy_J> once in a while naruto rise of a ninja (I still need to finish that)
[05:23:36] < Dalapuron> Andy_J: someone has been renting that naruto game for the past 8 months
[05:23:41] < Dalapuron> it's NEVER availible in blockbuster
[05:23:43] < nicolas> Andy_J: well, price on 360s has gone down.. so i'm considering it now...
[05:23:57] <@Andy_J> Dalapuron: It's fun.
[05:23:58] < Dalapuron> my friend who owns the 360 wants to try it but never can
[05:24:12] <@Andy_J> nicolas: Don't bother with an Elite.
[05:24:25] <@Andy_J> The hard drive space isn't worth it.
[05:24:32] < millinao> It does have HDMI
[05:24:35] < millinao> which is a big plus
[05:24:40] <@Andy_J> So does the Pro.
[05:24:44] <@Andy_J> Or Premium.
[05:24:46] < millinao> ?
[05:24:47] <@Andy_J> Or whatever it's called now.
[05:24:49] < millinao> It does?
[05:24:52] <@Andy_J> Yes.
[05:25:03] < millinao> another cable?
[05:25:07] < nicolas> ah, well, that's what I want then
[05:25:19] < Dalapuron> I thought original has HDMI........?
[05:25:19] <@Andy_J> The only difference between a Premium and an Elite is the 100 GB on the hard drive, the case color, and maybe an HDMI cable
[05:25:26] <@Andy_J> hell even the arcade might have HDMI now
[05:25:29] < millinao> oh god, there's an HDMI cable
[05:25:38] < nicolas> Dalapuron: no, the original doesn't have HDMI
[05:25:39] <@Andy_J> Dalapuron: Before the Elite came out, none of them had HDMI
[05:25:47] <@Andy_J> Then it slowly trickled down.
[05:25:57] < Dalapuron> you mean it doesn't have the cable, or it doesn't have the port?
[05:26:08] <@Andy_J> I don't know if the Elite has an HDMI cable.
[05:26:10] < millinao> oh sweet, optical audio too
[05:26:18] <@Andy_J> millinao: the Premium has that, too...
[05:26:28] < nicolas> Dalapuron: the original ones until the elite didn't have HDMI port
[05:26:30] <@Andy_J> Dalapuron: But at least the Premium has a port.
[05:26:33] < millinao> yeah, I just didn't know 'till now :P
[05:26:36] <@Andy_J> The arcade probably does now too.
[05:26:48] <@Andy_J> It's all the same hardware on the inside.
[05:26:55] < Dalapuron> oh god different color text when someone uses my nick in the msg is annoying
[05:26:56] <@Andy_J> Just the case and hard drive are diffrent.
[05:27:00] < millinao> all of them are the same
[05:27:01] < nicolas> I think the arcade has HDMI .. probably has optical audio too
[05:27:18] <@Andy_J> nicolas: optical audio is on the A/V cable so I can see them putting a cable that doesn't have it in the arcade's box
[05:27:27] < millinao> It includes a wireless controller, 256 MB memory unit, composite AV cable, HDMI 1.2 output, 
[05:27:31] < millinao> (for the arcade)
[05:27:38] <@Andy_J> arcade has wireless controller now eh?
[05:27:43] <@Andy_J> interesting
[05:27:44] < nicolas> yeah
[05:28:06] <@Andy_J> As much as I don't like Microsoft, I can't find many faults with the 360
[05:28:15] < millinao> RROD?
[05:28:23] < nicolas> lol
[05:28:24] < Dalapuron> other than the fact it generates an insane amount of heat
[05:28:25] <@Andy_J> That is stupid user syndrome.
[05:28:31] < millinao> No, it is not
[05:28:37] <@Andy_J> Dalapuron: the 65nm ones are not nearly as hot
[05:28:53] <@Andy_J> millinao: I know several people with release 360s who have not had any problems
[05:29:10] < millinao> well those people are great
[05:29:10] <@Andy_J> why? becaus they don't suffocate teh damn thing
[05:29:29] < millinao> but my 360 has been needed to be sent back 2 times
[05:29:41] <@Andy_J> Then don't suffocate it.
[05:29:49] < Dalapuron> my friend's 360 boots to a blinking red sometimes, but usually when he hasn't turned it on in like 2 weeks or something
[05:29:50] < millinao> I don't.
[05:29:54] <@Andy_J> Run it horizontally.
[05:29:55] <@Andy_J> ETc.
[05:29:56] < Dalapuron> like it's too cold or something :p
[05:30:06] < millinao> probably dust
[05:30:08] <@Andy_J> Dalapuron: how many lights?
[05:30:15] < Dalapuron> I think only one
[05:30:24] < Dalapuron> don't remember, we don't see that happen very often
[05:31:45] <@Andy_J> 1 is some other hardware failure thingy
[05:31:51] <@Andy_J> 3 is the bad one
[05:31:54] <@Andy_J> 4 is A/V cable
[05:31:56] <@Andy_J> and I forget what 2 is
[05:32:03] <@Andy_J> it's another easy fix thing like 4 I think
[05:32:21] <@Andy_J> ah, overheating
[05:32:25] <@Andy_J> that's kind of easy fix <_<
[05:32:33] < millinao> it also matters which lights are up
[05:32:54] < Dalapuron> well sometimes when we havn't used it in awhile
[05:32:59] < Dalapuron> it'll boot with a red light
[05:33:05] <@Andy_J> millinao: not really
[05:33:07] < Dalapuron> all we do is turn it off, and turn it back on immediately
[05:33:11] < Dalapuron> problem solved
[05:33:20] < millinao> eh, I haven't touched a 360 in a long time
[05:33:35] < Dalapuron> so maybe dust then
[05:33:42] <@Andy_J> My 360 is one of the pros with the new heat sink but the old chips (also has HDMI)
[05:33:52] <@Andy_J> so it runs hot but keeps cool
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[05:34:31] < Dalapuron> heh
[05:34:57] <@Andy_J> couldn't find any pros with the 65nm chips in time for GH3
[05:35:04] <@Andy_J> and I was not spending the $100 for an elite
[05:35:26] <@Andy_J> still works fine
[05:35:26] < nicolas> hehe
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[05:47:42]  * Dalapuron is getting wine, hopefully he'll have enough room
[05:49:04] < Dalapuron> ah, yeah
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[05:51:56] <@efneTI86> [Spengo\__] En Taro Adun, Executor
[05:52:17] < Dalapuron> I wonder how installing stuff works in wine o.O
[05:52:58] < nicolas> ehh... just as anywhwere else
[05:53:46]  * Dalapuron goes to try
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[05:54:51] < Dalapuron> if I can get milkshape 3d to install then I won't need blender
[05:55:28] < Dalapuron> wine supports external harddrives right?
[05:56:18] < Nikky> You can set your C: to be whereever you want
[05:57:14] < Dalapuron> sweet
[06:01:44] < aardvarq> !qsay 1243
[06:01:45] <@efneTI86> 1243: <Sir_Lewk> wait, why the fsck does Netham45 have a bot on here? | <Sir_Lewk> hasn't he been +kb'ed several times for that? | <Sir_Lewk> I can see no good coming of it... | * Andy_J directs Sir_Lewk to a calendar | <Sir_Lewk> AHAHAHA | <Sir_Lewk> xD | <Sir_Lewk> got me [Added aardvarq at 2008/04/01 22:20]
[06:03:07] < aardvarq> !qsay 1248
[06:03:08] <@efneTI86> 1248: <Gr|m> So... Where'd you all learn assembly? | <chronomex> my bedroom [Added chronomex at 2008/04/06 16:35]
[06:03:58] <@Andy_J> <3 printf
[06:04:10] <@Andy_J> Coming from a Java guy, that means something.
[06:04:11] < Spengo\__> <3 cout
[06:04:30] <@Andy_J>                     System.err.printf("Symbol %s (declared on line %d) is a %s but used in variable context on line %d.\n",
[06:04:33] <@Andy_J>                             n.name, n.line, n.type, varLine);
[06:05:10] < Spengo\__> cout you just go <<whateverthehellyouwant<<whateveryouwantagain;
[06:06:03] <@Andy_J> I know.
[06:06:17] <@Andy_J> But that's even worse than string concatenation
[06:06:28] <@Andy_J> << is bigger than +
[06:06:52] <@Andy_J> Type checking is done \o/
[06:06:58] < aardvarq> !qsay 983
[06:07:00] <@efneTI86> 983: <Sir_Lewk> "Happy 14th birthday to Debian, father of Ubuntu!" <== How is that supposed to make Debian feel?!? | <Netham45> Sir_Lewk, it's supposed to remind Debian to use a condom. [Added i_c-Y at 2007/08/19 13:46]
[06:07:10] <@Andy_J> XD
[06:07:18] < Spengo\__> yeah but you don't have to deal with all that %d bs
[06:07:25] < Spengo\__> or whatever you are putting there
[06:07:59] <@Andy_J> "blablah %d blablah", var is shorter than "blablah " << var << " blablah"
[06:08:13] <@Andy_J> granted the latter is slightly easier to read
[06:08:33] < Spengo\__> I like easier to read, especially when you are making a really long line
[06:08:47] < Spengo\__> then you don't have to remember what order your vars go
[06:09:04] <@Andy_J> well I think I should go to bed now <_<
[06:09:09] < Spengo\__> lol k
[06:09:17] <@Andy_J> save code generation for this monstrosity for tomorrow
[06:10:52] < Dalapuron> mm, having two desktops is handy
[06:10:56] < prime38> woooo!
[06:11:03] < aardvarq> !qsay 941
[06:11:04] <@efneTI86> 941: <DarkAuron> I just like steamed broccoli by itself | <Zeromus> I like raw broccoli with ranch dressing | <DarkAuron> ranch is gross | <Zeromus> :( | <Zeromus> oh yeah | <Zeromus> well | <Zeromus> steam is gross [Added Merthsoft at 2007/07/16 20:57]
[06:11:07] < Dalapuron> one for internet stuff, another for technical crap and my terminal
[06:11:30] < prime38> i just calculated the electron to charge mass ratip (accutate to 2 decimals)
[06:11:50] < prime38> whoops, charge to mass ratio
[06:12:56] < aardvarq> And surely you meant accute not accutate
[06:13:08] < prime38> well actually, if you round the standard value its correct to 3 places, which is all i calculated it out to
[06:13:08] < aardvarq> or perhaps accult
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[06:16:07] < prime38> nope
[06:16:10] < prime38> i mean accurate
[06:16:31] < prime38> pretty damn good
[06:17:16] < prime38> and by accult surely you meant occult
[06:19:00] < Dalapuron> wtf, how do I only have 11mb left
[06:19:06] < Dalapuron> I had 90mb free earlier
[06:20:16] < prime38> admit defeat aardvarq!
[06:20:33] < aardvarq> NEVAR!
[06:20:37] < prime38> you missed mine, and i got yours!
[06:20:59] < aardvarq> Tis but a scratch!
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[06:22:55] < _3fg> stars win in quadruple overtime
[06:23:00] < _3fg> 130 minute hockey game
[06:23:06] < _3fg> over twice as long as a normal game
[06:23:14] <@Andy_J> damn
[06:24:31] < Dalapuron> man, I could make shortcuts to run windows apps through wine.. that'd be cool
[06:24:47] < prime38> 15 minute periods?
[06:24:55] < prime38> thats almost 3x a normal game
[06:25:12] < _3fg> 20 minute periods prime
[06:25:28] < prime38> ahh
[06:29:03] < Dalapuron> what is Z: in wine?
[06:32:37] < _3fg> a drive
[06:32:45] < _3fg> specifically, the Z drive
[06:32:58] < Dalapuron> ...
[06:33:03] < Dalapuron> is it used for anything?
[06:33:15] < Dalapuron> or does it just refer to your regular harddrive
[06:33:25] < prime38> is there anything on z:
[06:33:58] < Dalapuron> I didn't know if wine used it specifically for anything
[06:34:09] < Dalapuron> default route for Z: is /
[06:34:15] < prime38> well, on dosbox, z: is what you get before you mount anything
[06:34:25] < prime38> and z: isnt really anything
[06:35:20] < Dalapuron> hmm okay
[06:35:33] < Dalapuron> I think wine takes up harddrive space everytime you run an app
[06:35:36] < Dalapuron> which is a major issue forme
[06:35:39] < Dalapuron> for me8
[06:35:41] < Dalapuron> ........
[06:35:55] < nicolas> Dalapuron: wine doesn't do anything the app wouldn't do
[06:36:20] < Dalapuron> well it's not letting me run milkshape 3d because I don't have enough space
[06:36:33] < Dalapuron> according to the error
[06:36:42] < Dalapuron> so I freed up space by removing blender
[06:37:21] < Dalapuron> now it's saying I'm missing dll's (error from milkshape)
[06:38:04] < nicolas> which dll's ?
[06:38:25] < Dalapuron> opengl and directx ones
[06:38:37] < Dalapuron> which is odd
[06:39:44] < Dalapuron> ran it again, now it gave a windows error box saying I don't have the latest opengl
[06:39:50] < Dalapuron> that I may need to update
[06:40:04] <@Grue> broken drivers
[06:40:27] <@Grue> while the directx library is serperate, the opengl library is actually in the driver
[06:41:47] < prime38> I GOT MAIL
[06:41:49] < prime38> YAY!!!!!!!!
[06:42:41] < Dalapuron> err:ddraw:DDRAW_Create Couldn't load WineD3D - OpenGL libs not present?
[06:42:46] < Dalapuron> o.O
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[06:45:20] < Dalapuron> so is it a bug in wine or something wrong with my opengl drivers?
[06:46:57] < prime38> re-fucking-diculous
[06:47:10] < prime38> facebook sucks
[06:47:16] < aardvarq> You know, you don't need to whine and bug us every time you find a bug in wine.
[06:47:52] < Dalapuron> ?
[06:48:41] < prime38> that joke was so lame Dalapuron doesnt even get it
[06:49:22] < aardvarq> Pah. If it was lame, someone would have qadded it by now.
[06:50:15] < Dalapuron> oh -_-
[06:50:19] < Dalapuron> I get it
[06:50:35] < prime38> for years (and i mean years!) i didnt get that joke people would say when you were complaining about something "would you like some cheese with that whine/wine"
[06:50:53] < prime38> i always compared it to your bitter comments and bitter wine or cheese
[06:51:02] < prime38> tryed to make sense of it that way
[06:51:34] < Dalapuron> heh
[06:51:37] < prime38> like the taste of wine/cheese with your whiney comments
[06:52:01] < prime38> if i had known that the joke was that bad i would probably have kicked them in the shins
[06:52:56] < Dalapuron> ah, apt-get didn't get libwine-gl when I installed wine
[06:57:05] < aardvarq> !t Welcome to #TCPA | http://tcpa.calcg.org/ | Nikky: Do an official poll with yes/no responses and I'll implement the outcome.
[06:57:06] -!- efneTI86 changed the topic of #tcpa to: Welcome to #TCPA | http://tcpa.calcg.org/ | Nikky: Do an official poll with yes/no responses and I'll implement the outcome.
[06:57:07] < Dalapuron> well ms3d works, but the display is really glitchy
[06:57:23] < Dalapuron> may need to tweak, or it's not going to display correctly
[06:57:59] < aardvarq> On second thought, let's just use the bots.
[06:58:08] < aardvarq> Cause you can't cheat and vote twice.
[06:58:13] < prime38> on the other hand, lets just keep them
[06:58:23] < Nikky> On the other hand, lets not
[06:58:25] < aardvarq> Keep greets?
[06:58:35] < prime38> i am pro greets
[06:58:35] <@efneTI86> Nay
[06:58:41] < aardvarq> !t Welcome to #TCPA | http://tcpa.calcg.org/
[06:58:43] -!- efneTI86 changed the topic of #tcpa to: Welcome to #TCPA | http://tcpa.calcg.org/
[06:58:51] < Nikky> 1-0, polls close
[06:58:55] < Nikky> the robot vote is in
[06:59:09] < prime38> and since when did http://tcpa.calcg.org/ become the website of #tcpa?
[06:59:23] < prime38> i mean, i know that the site has been in the topic for months
[06:59:32] < aardvarq> Since the number-of-websites counter for #tcpa was incremented from 0 to 1.
[06:59:42] < Nikky> it's only one digit from the first tcpa website :)
[07:01:28] <@Grue> I don't mind greets as long as the greet bot isn't the hub so that people who don't want them can /ignore
[07:01:48] < Nikky> make it be a bot nobody likes
[07:01:53] < aardvarq> Oh, is THAT why everyone keeps complaining about it being the hub.
[07:01:54] < Nikky> how about etaonrish? :)
[07:02:02] <@Grue> Umm, yeah aardvarq 
[07:02:09] <@Grue> People can't go ignoring efneTI86 
[07:02:10] < aardvarq> I was wondering how which bot did it was relevant....
[07:02:16] < Nikky> duh
[07:02:20] <@Grue> It's not so much the greets, as much as that it's the hub that people can't ignore
[07:02:39] <@efneTI86> And you don't want to ignore me.
[07:02:52] < aardvarq> Fine. So which bot shall it be?
[07:03:04] <@Grue> etaonrish is fine with me, as Nikky suggested :P
[07:03:08] <@Grue> *shrug*
[07:03:12] < prime38> ill just have to start saying my own info line
[07:03:14] < Dalapuron> aw, winamp doesn't work right in wine because the first time you run it, settings are saved, except wine doesn't seem to save those settings, so it just loops
[07:03:17] < aardvarq> haha that'll cheese Michael. :)
[07:03:23] < Nikky> exactly
[07:03:28] < Nikky> gotta bring it in line
[07:03:32] < Nikky> since it doesn't do anything else
[07:03:35] <@Grue> I don't really care what bot it is
[07:03:48] < prime38> then lets put it on SnowCrash
[07:03:48] <@Grue> Just as long as it's one that doesn't do something important (like efneTI86)
[07:04:02] <@Grue> Well... I'd rather not ignore my own bot >.>
[07:04:18] <@Grue> Remius?
[07:04:18] < prime38> ohhh, so it DOES MATTER
[07:04:28] < aardvarq> Good argument for using one of the efneTI's I suppose. Otherwise someone will ignore their bot.
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[07:05:02] <@efneTI86> [DA|lappy] We called it Sin.
[07:05:13] < prime38> who hates infolines enough to actually ignore one of them anyways, except nikky
[07:05:19] < Nikky> um, a lot of us?
[07:05:23] <@Grue> Yep
[07:05:30] < aardvarq> How about efneTI92?
[07:05:34] < Nikky> I'm not even that vocal about it compared to other people
[07:05:44] < prime38> i'd say you are
[07:05:44] <@Grue> I have no objection aardvarq 
[07:06:28] < Nikky> prime38: That's because you hate my guts. :)
[07:06:29] < prime38> if you are going to switch i could support '92
[07:06:59] < prime38> its because of the two polls in the topic
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[07:07:22] < Nikky> hmm, what is 24/96 WAVE
[07:07:25] < Nikky> grue
[07:07:31] < aardvarq> Now that I understand why it matters, I'll be happy to switch it. :)
[07:07:32] < Nikky> oh, duh
[07:07:34] <@Grue> 24-bit, 96kHz?
[07:07:34] < Nikky> wave audio
[07:07:35] < Nikky> >.>
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[07:07:38] <@Grue> Yeah
[07:07:38] < Nikky> I'm a retard
[07:07:39] <@Grue> Waveform
[07:07:45] <@Grue> As in uncompressed
[07:07:50] < Nikky> yeah
[07:08:13] <@Grue> 24-bit/96kHz wave is as high quality as you can get practically
[07:08:20] < aardvarq> 96kHz is hardcore. That encodes twice the highest frequency dogs can hear.
[07:08:24] <@Grue> yeah
[07:08:27] <@Grue> it's really quite overkill
[07:08:32] < Nikky> anyway, new NIN album out
[07:08:41] <@Grue> even if you're a hardcore audiophile it's totally overkill
[07:08:43] < Nikky> so torrent that shit
[07:08:48] <@Grue> pirate
[07:08:53] < Nikky> no, it's free
[07:08:59] < Nikky> Do you really think I'd pirate?
[07:09:00] < Nikky> :(
[07:09:11] < Dalapuron> ghosts?
[07:09:15] < Dalapuron> or another one
[07:09:16] < Nikky> The Slip
[07:09:18] <@Grue> wait, bittorrent isn't just for pirates?
[07:09:25] < Nikky> Grue: Yes, it is.
[07:09:27] < Nikky> For pirates and NIN
[07:09:36] <@Grue> ah
[07:09:37] <@Grue> I see
[07:09:37] <@Grue> ;)
[07:09:45] < Nikky> :)
[07:11:20] < Nikky> priate
[07:11:41] <@Grue> nah
[07:11:54] <@Grue> it's free
[07:11:57] <@Grue> do you really think I'd pirate?
[07:12:01] <@Grue> oh wait... am I caught in a time loop? ;)
[07:12:05] < Nikky> yes
[07:12:09] <@Grue> darn :(
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[07:12:59] < Dalapuron> I see no torrents
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[07:13:02] <@efneTI86> [DarkAuron] We called it Sin.
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[07:13:35] < Dalapuron> .......
[07:13:36] < Dalapuron> goddamnit
[07:13:38] <@Grue> you have to go to their web site... or something... not that I even care...
[07:13:42] <@Grue> DarkAuron fails
[07:13:42] < Dalapuron> doug is either running torrents
[07:13:52] < Dalapuron> or I'm going to blow up his router and make him buy a new one
[07:13:56] < Dalapuron> because this is pissing me off
[07:13:57] <@Grue> haha
[07:13:59] < Nikky> >.>
[07:14:01] < Nikky> blow it up
[07:14:04] <@Grue> GREMLINS!
[07:14:59] <@Grue> ...or Nikky. Same difference.
[07:15:00] <@Grue> :)
[07:15:01] < Dalapuron> I'd like to blow it up
[07:15:08] <@Grue> Get some thermite then! ;)
[07:15:09] < Dalapuron> I know it's not the internet connection
[07:15:18] < Dalapuron> it's the fucking router
[07:15:24] < Nikky> What kind is it?
[07:15:25] <@Grue> What router?
[07:15:25] < Dalapuron> but he says he never has problems
[07:15:28] < Dalapuron> probably becausehe
[07:15:31] <@Grue> I <3 my Buffalo WHR-G54S
[07:15:34] <@Grue> w/ DD-WRT
[07:15:34] < Dalapuron> he's directly connected to it*
[07:15:43] < Nikky> WHR-HP-G54 is better
[07:15:45] < Nikky> with tomato
[07:15:45] < Dalapuron> he has DD-WRT on it, can't remember which model
[07:15:46] < Nikky> :)
[07:15:54] < Nikky> Tomato kicks the crap out of DD-WRT
[07:15:55] <@Grue> Yeah, I was too poor for the HP Nikky 
[07:16:01] <@Grue> Tomato looks good but I'm too lazy to try it
[07:16:12] <@Grue> And you can't get the Buffalo router's now at all 'cause that stupid court order
[07:16:20] < Nikky> I just like the realtime traffic graph
[07:16:29] < Nikky> yeah, that sucks
[07:17:11] <@Grue> DD-WRT has a realtime graph too (v24, at least)
[07:17:42] < Nikky> is v24 out?
[07:17:53] < Nikky> not that it matters
[07:17:54] < Nikky> :)
[07:17:57] <@Grue> RC 7 is out, which will be the last one
[07:18:04] <@Grue> I've been running it since RC 2 and it's pretty solid
[07:18:05] < Nikky> oh, it's still RC?
[07:19:04] <@Grue> If you're running something like a WHR-G54S or or a WRT54G it's been pretty bombproof since the early RCs, it's just taking a while for the more obscure models and such
[07:19:24] < Nikky> That's why I run it on my alarm clock
[07:19:32] <@Grue> Hah
[07:19:46] <@Grue> I'm sure Tomato is good... I'll probably try it, one of these days... :P
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[07:25:27] < Dalapuron> ugh
[07:25:35] < Dalapuron> I'm just going to cut off my desktop
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[07:30:34] <@efneTI92> [DA|lappy] We called it Sin.
[07:31:10] <@Grue> Oh yay
[07:31:18]  * Grue ignores efneTI92 
[07:31:23] <@Grue> Ah...
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[07:41:21] < Nikky> yay
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[07:41:56] <@efneTI92> [TimMc] TimMc is solving the Rubik's Cube in 26.34 seconds!
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[07:56:13] < TimMc> heya
[07:56:37] < Nikky> hi
[07:57:07] < TimMc> i can't remember how string literals are parsed in mIRC :-(
[07:57:28] < TimMc> trying something like: elseif ("efnet" isin $server)
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[07:57:52] <@efneTI92> [DA|lappy] We called it Sin.
[07:57:54] < Nikky> I don't know
[07:57:59] < Nikky> but DA|lappy might
[07:58:02] < TimMc> ^^
[07:58:16] < Nikky> I think he knew mIRC scripting
[07:58:36] < TimMc> haven't done mIRC scripting for about 2-3 years :-P
[07:59:00] < TimMc> since then I've learnt 3 programming languages and a couple of scripting languages x.x
[07:59:15] < TimMc> common logic doesn't seem to apply to mIRC ;p
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[07:59:27] < TimMc> or syntax rather
[07:59:30] < DA|lappy> what do you need help with?
[07:59:54] < DA|lappy> I don't cover all grounds of mIRC scripting but I've done my fair share
[08:00:15] < TimMc> just trying to figure out how mIRC parses conditions in if-else statements
[08:00:25] < TimMc> basic stuff, just forgotten the syntax
[08:01:13] < TimMc> I'm trying to create an initialization script to connect to servers, load specific channels, and send messages
[08:01:16] < TimMc> elseif (efnet isin $server)
[08:01:44] < TimMc> does it require curly braces inline and strings to be declared in double quotes? o.O
[08:02:00] < TimMc> ie: elseif ("efnet" isin $server) {/something}
[08:03:38] < TimMc> brb, ima test it
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[08:05:04] < DA|lappy> oh, sorry.. friend was playing this weird tetris-like minigame on GTA4
[08:05:15]  * DA|lappy wonders if he's even connected atm
[08:06:31] < Nikky> you are
[08:06:36] < Nikky> :)
[08:08:04] < DA|lappy> k
[08:09:16] < DA|lappy> but no, quotes are not needed for if statements
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[08:10:54] <@efneTI92> [TimMc] TimMc is solving the Rubik's Cube in 26.34 seconds!
[08:11:18] < DA|lappy> wb
[08:11:20] < DA|lappy> if statements do not require quotes
[08:12:03] < TimMc> tnx
[08:12:06] < DA|lappy> yw
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[08:12:44] < DA|lappy> theres also no variable types, they just act as dynamic variables
[08:12:47] <+TimMc> woot
[08:12:51] < DA|lappy> though you may have figured that out by now
[08:13:06] <+TimMc> heh, slowly coming back ;p
[08:13:20] <+TimMc> what's the work, weak types or something
[08:13:22] <+TimMc> word*
[08:13:27] < DA|lappy> haven't really dealt with other scripting languages before so I don't know if that's common with scripting or not
[08:13:33] < DA|lappy> yeah something like that
[08:14:10] <+TimMc> bash scripting is fun :-P
[08:14:22] < DA|lappy> heh
[08:14:45] <+TimMc> ima go look for some slide-cases for my calculators :-P
[08:14:50] <+TimMc> need to pimp my calcs ^^
[08:14:58] < DA|lappy> lol
[08:15:00]  * TimMc eases off the slang
[08:15:38] < DA|lappy> the most recent thing I coded was a simple 3d renderer that takes vertices and draws them on a picture window, with lines connecting them
[08:15:42] < DA|lappy> and you can move around the camera
[08:16:09] < DA|lappy> but it doesn't take in account for vertices being behind the camera, so when you move in front of the cube, it starts to act weird
[08:16:14] <+TimMc> ^^
[08:16:15] < Nikky> cool
[08:16:16] < Nikky> :)
[08:16:28] < DA|lappy> when I was trying to learn 3d from scratch
[08:16:47] < DA|lappy> I should probably try to figure out how to fix that
[08:16:48] <+TimMc> i've to make a stockmarket system in 2-3 weeks time :-/ (Java + RMI + JDBC + Oracle)
[08:16:57] < DA|lappy> x.x
[08:17:13] < DA|lappy> biggest thing I ever worked on was a MUD that ran via dcc chat
[08:17:28] <+TimMc> ^^
[08:17:45] < DA|lappy> actually two. one a dynamic MUD environment where the players create the world, and I named it Cave. original one which was done years ago was called Dark Matter
[08:17:52] <+TimMc> the system we're supposed to make is essentially useless and can't be extended into something useful :/
[08:17:57] <+TimMc> waste of time bleeh
[08:18:03] < DA|lappy> didn't have enemies in the rooms but you could fight random enemies in an arena, gain levels, etc
[08:18:07] < DA|lappy> yeah that sucks
[08:18:30] <+TimMc> i'd rather make a page scraper and create some chart application for stockmarket data ;p
[08:18:36] <+TimMc> everyone seems to be selling that stuff :-P
[08:18:40] < DA|lappy> heh
[08:18:42] <+TimMc> *no pun intended
[08:18:52] < DA|lappy> I should see if mIRC runs okay in wine
[08:19:06] < DA|lappy> you got me in a scripting mood
[08:19:08] < Nikky> it probably does
[08:19:11] < DA|lappy> well
[08:19:12] < Nikky> seems pretty simple
[08:19:27] < DA|lappy> everything that uses windows API seems to be really glitchy visually, in wine, with what I've tried so far
[08:19:45] < Nikky> that is true :(
[08:20:11] < DA|lappy> kindof important
[08:20:28] < DA|lappy> I got winamp to run, and it's mostly fine
[08:20:38] < DA|lappy> but wine can't seem to use my audio driver
[08:20:51] < DA|lappy> so except for doing what winamp was intended for, it works fine :D
[08:21:06] <+TimMc> x.x It's a good thing the average person can't have a gun in Australia.
[08:21:19] < Nikky> haha
[08:21:26] < DA|lappy> hmm?
[08:21:46] <+TimMc> On another note, one of my lecturers copied a powerpoint presentation from Georgia University nearly word for word :-/
[08:21:51] < Nikky> nice
[08:22:11] < DA|lappy> let's find out how well mIRC will run!
[08:22:13] <+TimMc> Except it's been rephrased into less intelligible sentences... making it harder to understand
[08:22:18] <+TimMc> ;p
[08:22:36] < DA|lappy> oh wow
[08:22:37] < DA|lappy> it looks perfect
[08:22:38] <+TimMc> arg, wish i had keybindings setup in windows
[08:22:48] <+TimMc> linux is fun with that x.x
[08:23:40] <+TimMc> ALT+SPACE+X in windows, vs CTRL+ALT+X
[08:24:11]  * TimMc tries not to get beaten up at uni for having a vista themed fluxbox
[08:24:18] < Nikky> haha
[08:25:42] < DA|lappy> lol
[08:26:05] <+TimMc> today my soft eng lecturer was talking about GPL and slipped in an advert to Linksys WRT :-P
[08:26:15] < Nikky> haha
[08:26:31] < DA|lappy> nice
[08:26:32]  * TimMc wants one ;-P
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[08:37:18]  * DA|mIRC gasps
[08:37:39] <+TimMc> ;p
[08:37:44] < DA|mIRC> that's really cool
[08:38:46] <+TimMc> wine?
[08:38:50] < DA|mIRC> yeah
[08:39:03] < DA|mIRC> it's running perfectly
[08:39:23] < DA|mIRC> which is kindof suprising
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[08:41:53] < DA|mIRC> :P I think I'll just use mIRC instead of xchat then
[08:48:45] < DA|mIRC> but I need to sleep now
[08:48:47] < DA|mIRC> night
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[10:01:42] <@efneTI92> [TimMc] TimMc is solving the Rubik's Cube in 26.34 seconds!
[10:03:34] < _krisk_> ok
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[10:04:45] <+TimMc> hiyo
[10:04:50] < _krisk_> helloo
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[10:08:48] <@efneTI92> [Leofox] All we do in hell is play DDR!
[10:08:51] < _krisk_> lu
[10:10:25] < Leofox> lo
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[10:13:51] <+TimMc> hmm, what's a decent efnet server?
[10:21:59] <@E-J> efnet.cs.hut.fi
[10:22:16] < _krisk_> i dont think there is such a thing
[10:22:52] < Leofox> xs4all is OK
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[10:27:11] <@efneTI92> [rivereye] Is it time to go fishing?
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[10:50:09] <+TimMc> hey tr1p1ea
[11:41:47] <+TimMc> hmm
[11:42:32] <+TimMc> assuming the TI 89ti already interprets RS-232 signals... would it be that hard to rewrite some code in m68k assembly to interpret foreign devices being connected?
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[11:52:18] < nicolas> TimMc: the ti89 doesn't interpret RS-232 signals...
[12:14:43] <+TimMc> damn x.x
[12:15:01] <+TimMc> what's the serial link use? o.O
[12:20:10] < nicolas> it's own signalling
[12:20:31] < nicolas> it's pretty well documented on various sites
[12:22:39] < nicolas> probably due to the fact old calcs didn't have proper timing mechanisms (and no UART) ... the protocol is state based, timing doesn't really matter (in the implementation it does, as in if you take to long to signal a bit a timeout occurs anyway)
[12:22:41] < _krisk_> oh great i have a test tomorrow and the school's webserver with all the material that needs to be studied on it it and has been down for days now
[12:23:01] < nicolas> _krisk_: call them or get the info from someone else
[12:23:27] < _krisk_> weekend + holidays = nobody there to call
[12:23:40] < _krisk_> and everybody else has to get the material from that site ; )
[12:23:42] < nicolas> they don't have cell phones?
[12:23:56] < nicolas> yes, but maybe someone got the material before it went down
[12:24:03] < _krisk_> why would i have the cell phone numbers of the people who work for tech support at my college?
[12:24:29] < nicolas> aren't there a couple of teacher's pets etc lyring around?
[12:24:39] < _krisk_> dont know anyone
[12:25:00] <+TimMc> lol
[12:25:10] < nicolas> go out and make some friends then...
[12:25:21] <+TimMc> i've some techie mobile numbers ^_^
[12:25:21] < _krisk_> my friends dont do this shitty course
[12:25:28] < nicolas> if not with schoolwork, they can walways be helpful :P
[12:25:36] < _krisk_> and i dont want anyone from this shitty course for my friends
[12:25:46] < nicolas> _krisk_: and why do you do this course if it's shitty?
[12:25:50] <+TimMc> try n find some customer service desk online with the school p
[12:25:55] < _krisk_> have to do something
[12:26:04] < nicolas> yeah, well, why not pick a nice interesting course ?
[12:26:27] < _krisk_> all other courses just seemed like even more boring work
[12:26:34] < _krisk_> this is easy and hardly takes any effort
[12:26:44] < nicolas> should've maybe picked another place to study then?
[12:27:00] < _krisk_> hmm? why?
[12:27:11] < nicolas> where the stuff was interesting and anot shitty?
[12:27:19] <+TimMc> TICI SDK?
[12:27:31] < _krisk_> when i say all other courses i mean all other
[12:27:39] < nicolas> all over the country ?
[12:28:00] < _krisk_> why would course x be interesting at colelge y but not at this one?
[12:28:52] < nicolas> because the teacher have better teaching skills, and better material...
[12:29:03] < nicolas> different approaches ..
[12:29:17] < nicolas> what course are you taking ?
[12:29:20] < _krisk_> that doesnt matter to me
[12:29:27] < _krisk_> comp sci final year blabla
[12:29:56] < nicolas> and why don't you like it .. maybe you should have done something more like computer engineering, so you got to play with embedded systems
[12:30:03] < nicolas> or, cooking :)
[12:30:06] < _krisk_> no thats even more boring
[12:30:16] < _krisk_> actually they are merging the two at this college
[12:31:04] < _krisk_> comp sci is one of those things where you can pass classes by using google for 5 minutes
[12:31:15] < _krisk_> not so much if you study law or medicine
[12:31:25] < nicolas> what is it that you would actually LIKE to do ...
[12:31:42] < nicolas> you know, a part from spending your days lying on your bed 
[12:31:46] < nicolas> and IRC
[12:32:19] < _krisk_> thats my point, none of the studies seem like something i would like to do. maybe some of the subjects are interesting but then i'd rather read about it myself and not do the whole blabla assignments blabla tessts examns etc thing
[12:32:41] < _krisk_> i like going to the gym and chilling out with music and friends
[12:32:47] < _krisk_> if they turn that into a college course ill sign up
[12:33:07] < nicolas> yeah, I can understand that... but nobody will give you money for doing just that ... unfortunately
[12:33:21] < _krisk_> hence why i do something people give monkeys money for doing poorly
[12:34:15] < nicolas> do you have any aspirations of doing ... I dunno, great things ?
[12:34:38] < _krisk_> i dont know. such as?
[12:35:13] < nicolas> well, maybe you could be the first to find a good way to make "going to the gym and chilling with friends" a worthwhile course :P
[12:35:39] < _krisk_> nah
[12:35:49] < nicolas> right sorry, too much effort
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[12:35:56] < _krisk_> i dont mind effort
[12:36:21] < _krisk_> otherwise you wouldnt find me in the gym every other day trying to move increasingly heavyer weights every week
[12:36:40] < nicolas> that could be obsession rather than effort
[12:37:17] <+TimMc> ocd ^^
[12:37:36]  * TimMc ignores Rubik's Cube
[12:37:39] < _krisk_> its actually a healthy schedule
[12:37:43] < _krisk_> anyway currently my aspirations are getting a nice girlfriend do fun things and get some part time cash income to rent a place
[12:38:27] <+TimMc> i'm doing the reverse x.x
[12:38:40] <+TimMc> juggling CS + gf + work
[12:38:49] < nicolas> hehe
[12:39:09] < nicolas> i'm currently juggling work+work + work :P
[12:39:15] < nicolas> pain in the butt
[12:39:23] < _krisk_> but besides having a nice girl theres very very few fun things to do around here
[12:39:41] < _krisk_> and work sucks if you cant go do something fun at the end of the day
[12:40:00] <+TimMc> heh, i can do fun stuff at work
[12:40:04] <+TimMc> fun == mean stuff ;p
[12:40:17] < nicolas> work sucks EVEN when you can do something fun at the endo f the day
[12:40:24] < _krisk_> well yeah
[12:40:26] < nicolas> it's always work :P
[12:40:35] < _krisk_> but then its doable
[12:40:43] < nicolas> yeah =)
[12:44:13] < nicolas> eeeeeh, i'm lagging
[12:44:16] < nicolas> stupid internet connection
[12:44:52] < _krisk_> at least there'll be summer break in a month
[12:46:55] < nicolas> yeah, I'm very looking forward to summer vacations
[12:47:12] < _krisk_> i might go to italy for some reason
[12:47:28] < nicolas> "for some reason" ?
[12:47:52] < nicolas> I guess it being a nice place full of pizza, pasta, and good ice-cream is a good enough reason for me :P
[12:48:11] < _krisk_> well what i want to do can be done here just as well
[12:48:27] < _krisk_> but my friends want to do silly things like rafting and stuff
[12:48:53] < nicolas> rafting is great
[12:49:01] < _krisk_> meh too wet
[12:49:13] < _krisk_> and itll be sleeping in a tent which is sucks and lame so i dont know
[12:49:22] < nicolas> of course if all you want to do is smoke weed, drink, and chase girls ... you can do that pretty much anywhere
[12:49:42] < nicolas> sleeping in a tent is cool ... especially the illegal wild camping :D
[12:49:50] < _krisk_> it wont be ilelgal wild camping
[12:49:54] < _krisk_> that would be pretty cool
[12:50:19] < _krisk_> itll be on a huge shitty tent zone for other dutchies on vacation there
[12:50:33] < nicolas> ah, ugh
[12:51:53] < _krisk_> apparently tent holidays are cheaper but i dont think that took into account having to buy a bloody tent
[12:51:58] <+TimMc> we've usage limits on internet in Australia :-P
[12:52:03] <+TimMc> sucks here :/
[12:52:19] <+TimMc> 18 GB a month @ AUD$50
[12:52:31] < _krisk_> also i im not into weed or alcohol and the chicks there are highly unlikely to be my type so meh
[12:53:17] < nicolas> _krisk_: go to decathlon buy a tent for like 50 euro :P
[12:55:21] < _krisk_> that doesnt sound like itll last 10 days
[12:55:38] < nicolas> oh, it would :)
[12:59:43] < _krisk_> ok
[13:00:30] < nicolas> there are also more expensive ones if you want...
[13:01:46] <+TimMc> ;p
[13:01:58] < _krisk_> decathlon?
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[13:02:36] < nicolas> _krisk_: it's a french sport big surface shop ...
[13:02:45] < nicolas> but it's slowly spreading over europe
[13:02:47] < _krisk_> dutch too apparently
[13:04:02] < nicolas> yes, they have conquered holland too :P
[13:07:58] < _krisk_> ok some cool tents there
[13:08:01] < _krisk_> but still
[13:14:53] <@E-J> luckily not yet in finland
[13:15:01] <@E-J> those french bast...
[13:15:04] < _krisk_> lulz
[13:15:30] <@E-J> but the dutch most horrible tasting energy drink has already arrived here
[13:15:49] <@E-J> though it's cheapest so i buy it often
[13:16:49] < _krisk_> energy drinks suck
[13:17:02] < _krisk_> well, caffeine and stuff sucks
[13:17:39] <@E-J> drink is rodeo, if you have ever heard of it
[13:18:25] < _krisk_> i dont know, everyone seems to drink red bull
[13:22:06] <@E-J> here we have only red bull, ed, battery, rodeo, teho, mad croc, ...
[13:24:22] < nicolas> i like the use of t he word "only" in there...
[13:25:18] < nicolas> here, we have red bull, burn, and since really recently, in some places shark
[13:25:27] < nicolas> for the longest time red bull was the only one
[13:27:26] < nicolas> anyway.. i'm off
[13:27:33] < nicolas> lateres..
[13:27:39]  * nicolas &
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[14:12:43] < _krisk_> so blub
[14:16:24] <+TimMc> ;p
[14:16:27] <@E-J> http://imgs.sfgate.com/n/pictures/2008/05/02/english5.jpg
[14:16:43] <+TimMc> lol?
[14:18:24] <@E-J> i believe "official" is correct way to type that word
[14:18:58] < _krisk_> you believe correctly
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[14:25:01] < Merthsoft> my birthday is tomorrow!
[14:27:38] < i_c-Y> congratulations
[14:27:42] < i_c-Y> you're one day closer to dying
[14:27:50] < _krisk_> thats every day
[14:28:07] < i_c-Y> yep
[14:28:21] < i_c-Y> maybe i'll wish you a happy bday tomorrow
[14:28:26] < _krisk_> maybe
[14:28:38] < _krisk_> i dont suppose anyone here is a health geek?
[14:28:51] <@E-J> i'm closer to 50 than borning
[14:29:03] < _krisk_> borning?
[14:29:15] <@E-J> birth*
[14:29:18] < _krisk_> oh hehe
[14:29:36] <@E-J> this is what you get when you don't look dictionary
[14:29:45] < _krisk_> it happens
[14:29:52] <@E-J> and forget every basic words
[14:29:59] < _krisk_> im closer to being 21 than birth
[14:31:04] <@E-J> _krisk_: my friend started to worry last autumn when his 25th birthday was about to come because then he was closer to 50 than birth
[14:32:30] < _krisk_> myeah
[14:48:02] <+TimMc> almost 20 x.x
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[15:06:41] <@efneTI92> [KermM] http://www.cemetech.net :: Leading The Way to the Future
[15:06:50] -!- mode/#tcpa [+v KermM] by efneTI83
[15:07:08] < _krisk_> http://zip.4chan.org/g/src/1209999926320.png
[15:07:18] <+KermM> I know I shouldn't click this
[15:07:24] < _krisk_> its sfw
[15:07:35] <+KermM> another link to that is http://www.xkcd.org
[15:08:30] < _krisk_> its one of the few images on the net that doesnt have a gazillion copyright watermarks on it so i couldnt tell what the original source was
[15:08:40] < i_c-Y> .com
[15:08:46] <+KermM> .org works too
[15:08:58] < i_c-Y> yeah but only losers use .org
[15:28:52] < Nikky> Hi KermM :)
[15:29:03] <+KermM> hello Nikky
[15:29:19] < Nikky> I've missed you so much
[15:29:30] <@E-J> asmand: http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/rata_suljettu.jpg
[15:30:06] <@E-J> i'll wait when kevin comes here and says same thing to Nikky 
[15:33:08] <@E-J> text on that picture: "race track closed - because of weak situation in regard to ice conditions"
[15:33:59] < Nikky> lol
[15:34:47] <+KermM> I missed you too, Nikky
[15:34:58] <+KermM> every moment without you is like a knife plunging into my soul
[15:34:59] < _krisk_> lulz
[15:36:29] < Nikky> I know, isn't it?
[15:36:46] < Nikky> You should print out a picture of me to carry in your wallet.
[15:37:28] <+KermM> what makes you think I haven't?
[15:37:58] < Nikky> You're too bitter to have.
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[16:11:45] -!- Channel #tcpa created Fri Mar  2 07:59:29 2001
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[16:12:10] < V200> does calcg.org work right now?
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[16:13:51] < i_c-Y> !k efneV200 impersonation
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[16:13:53] < i_c-Y> hai Tahben 
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[16:15:02] < i_c-Y> You have 45 seconds to comply, efneV200.
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[16:16:03] < Tahben> sup i_c-Y ?
[16:16:33] < i_c-Y> not much, doing some hw on conformal mappings, you?
[16:18:42] < Tahben> just trying to find an mp3 while my daughter naps.
[16:20:26] < i_c-Y> ah
[16:20:46] < Tahben> failing miserably.
[16:21:41] < i_c-Y> what mp3?
[16:22:31] < Tahben> jump in michael by no more kings
[16:23:09] < Tahben> hope she wakes up soon. we are making pamplemousses today.
[16:25:40] < i_c-Y> pamawut?
[16:26:06] < i_c-Y> id venture that has something to do with grapefruits
[16:26:18] < i_c-Y> (because of mauritus's grapefruit reigon)
[16:26:40] < i_c-Y> well its called pamplemousses
[16:26:59] < Tahben> Its a grapefruit candy. 
[16:27:35] < Tahben> I've been getting creative with grapefruit lately.
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[17:27:16] <@efneTI92> [DSPLord] *waves hand* You will give me +v.
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[17:36:55] < Nikky> http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/its_happening_2 lawlz
[17:39:24] < _krisk_> lol
[17:42:33] < Nikky> You aren't allowed to laugh.
[17:43:23] < _krisk_> you may call a hot goth chick to disciplin me
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[17:44:26] < Nikky> I'll call an overweight goth chick
[17:45:32] < _krisk_> nah that doesnt work
[17:45:48] < _krisk_> they have to come up here and they arent fit enough for that
[17:47:57] < Nikky> BrandonW posted on the most recent ticalc.org article
[17:48:01] < Nikky> everyone reply!
[17:48:29] < _krisk_> :O
[18:00:37] < Nikky> Netham45: I don't know why you claim that most of us are "assholes to you"
[18:01:51] < i_c-Y> omgomgomg
[18:01:59] < i_c-Y> !seen BrandonW
[18:02:01] <@efneTI86> BrandonW (~calcmaste@24-158-198-153.dhcp.kgpt.tn.charter.com) was last seen quitting from #tcpa 19 days, 12 hours, 13 minutes ago stating ().
[18:02:35] < Nikky> get on that shit dawg
[18:14:56] < Nikky> Rome's new mayor is an ex-fascist
[18:15:23] < Nikky> wonderful
[18:26:03] <@E-J> Nikky: it's italy, prime minister is closet fascist
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[19:53:56] < _krisk_> I don't have a problem with drugs! I can start any time I want!
[19:55:12] < Leofox> _krisk_: omnimaga thinks all dutch people are heartless assholes
[19:55:15] < Leofox> just to let you know
[19:55:32] < _krisk_> what? why?
[19:56:30] < i_c-Y> they are.
[19:57:32] < Leofox> _krisk_: because I said two years ago that xlib sucked
[19:57:42] < Leofox> lol i_c-Y 
[19:57:52] < i_c-Y> i was going to deliver my greetings and request for revival of his site.
[19:57:53] < Leofox> * i_c-Y (~Icy@dragon-DED03C62.tae.cooper.edu) is binnengekomen bij #omnimaga
[19:57:54] < Leofox> * xLIB verbant *!*@*cooper.edu
[19:57:54] < Leofox> * xLIB heeft i_c-Y uit #omnimaga geschopt (User has been banned from the channel)
[19:58:05] < Leofox> lol dutch irc client
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[19:58:16] < _krisk_> oh ok well if you put it that way i guess us dutchies really are heartless assholes
[19:58:47] < Leofox> I told him that it lies in our culture to say things in a direct matter, "we draaien niet om de hete brij heen"
[19:59:21] < Leofox> <DJ_Omnimaga> and i see you're bringning this in #tcpa right now. I haven't checked the logs, but I know you're doing it because I_c-Y just tried to joi
[19:59:38] < _krisk_> lulz
[19:59:46] < _krisk_> tell him i say hi
[20:00:17] < i_c-Y> send "<i_c-Y> i was going to deliver my greetings and request for revival of his site." to him, Leofox 
[20:00:26] < _krisk_> "Oh my god, I've been using sobriety as a cruch!"
[20:00:50] < Leofox> did both
[20:00:59] < _krisk_> wut
[20:01:01] < _krisk_> wuut
[20:01:11] < Leofox> yuck sobriety
[20:01:16] < Leofox> i never get anything done when i'm sober
[20:01:18] < Leofox> or drunk
[20:01:36] < Leofox> I usually try to sit right on the ballmer curve but miserably fail
[20:01:58] <@Andy_J> DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS
[20:02:20] < _krisk_> aww give web devs some love man
[20:02:26] < _krisk_> WEB DEVELOPERS WEB DEVELOPERS WEB DEVELOPERS
[20:02:29] < _krisk_> *cheering*
[20:02:58] < _krisk_> in any case that donna chick on that 70s show is amazingly hot but only in the first couple of of seasons
[20:03:02] <@Andy_J> Have you not seen that video?
[20:03:16] < i_c-Y> no
[20:03:19] <@Andy_J> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMU0tzLwhbE
[20:03:23] < _krisk_> i have, apparently you havent seen the follow-up where some web devs ask for love to web devs
[20:03:33] <@Andy_J> I have not.
[20:03:47] < Leofox> steve ballmer is a genius
[20:04:03] <@Andy_J> I wouldn't say that.
[20:04:33] < i_c-Y> shes a scientologist, _krisk_ 
[20:04:38] < _krisk_> no!
[20:04:43] < Leofox> yeah i've heard
[20:04:48] < _krisk_> NOOOOO ;_;
[20:04:50] < i_c-Y> yeah!
[20:04:56] < i_c-Y> scientology!!!1
[20:04:57] < Leofox> shes gonna let tom cruise eat her childs placenta or somink
[20:05:19] < _krisk_> NEVER : (
[20:06:05] < _krisk_> buschick is kind ofl ike a 2008 version of her in the first season :O
[20:11:33] < Nikky> lcreeper
[20:13:06] < Leofox> maybe she's a scilon too
[20:13:48] < _krisk_> naww
[20:15:03] < _krisk_> if so ill have to work it out of her
[20:17:44] <@E-J> little windy in helsinki today: http://www.hs.fi/kuvat/iso_webkuva/1135236101069.jpeg
[20:18:22] < Leofox> woah, e-J
[20:19:20] < Milayrdo> !alive
[20:19:28] < Milayrdo> o.O
[20:25:31] < i_c-Y> lol E-J 
[20:26:55] < Leofox> chk
[20:30:07] < _krisk_> ack
[20:31:39] < Leofox> ack received from _krisk_ in 3 minutes 13 seconds
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[20:39:31] < Tahben> _krisk_ is back. what are the chances.
[20:40:04] < _krisk_> ?
[20:40:45] < Tahben> _krisk_ sounds like a delightful cracker for cheese
[20:41:26] < _krisk_> what am i back from?
[20:42:05] < Tahben> I'll hold off on the your mom comment.
[20:43:03] < _krisk_> no im genuinly curious
[20:55:09] < i_c-Y> hm
[20:55:19] < i_c-Y> i want to watch the shawshank redepmtion now/
[20:56:09] < Tahben> i_c-Y is so full of awesome.
[20:56:21] < i_c-Y> :)
[20:56:24] < Tahben> That movie kind of depresses me.
[20:56:39] < i_c-Y> Tahben: maybe http://atleastonecoolthing.blogspot.com/2006/10/shawshank-in-minute.html will change that.
[20:57:52] < Tahben> lemme turn down the sound lest I catch the attention of sleeping beauty.
[20:59:04] < Tahben> haha. very nice.
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[21:13:29] < chronomex> is there an easy way to create a transparent png image about a million pixels on a side without gimp?
[21:13:38] < chronomex> I want to drive off hotlinkers, but bandwidth is free for me
[21:15:15] < _krisk_> umm use another graphics editing program?
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[21:15:36] < chronomex> I mean cmdline, like imagemagick
[21:16:02] < _krisk_> id personally make a littyle perl or php script
[21:16:22] < _krisk_> you know, gdlib
[21:16:23] <@Andy_J> gd in php
[21:16:29] < Nikky> php blows
[21:16:56] < Leofox> lol i;m permbanned from omnimaga
[21:16:56] < _krisk_> not as thoroughly as you dear
[21:17:01] <@Andy_J> $im = imagecreate(999999999999, 999999999999);
[21:17:01] < _krisk_> oh lawd
[21:17:17] < moko|586> Andy_J: if that does what I think it does ... 
[21:17:25] < Leofox> U bent door xLIB van #omnimaga geschopt (Starting unnecessary arguments and causing trouble even after multiple bans and warnings over the past 3 years. This is a permanent ban.)
[21:17:34] <@Andy_J> imagepng($im, "hugeimage.png");
[21:17:36] < chronomex> but I don't really want to hit swap making this smallass image
[21:17:37] <@Andy_J> imagedestroy($im);
[21:18:01] <@Andy_J> Hmm =\
[21:18:15] < Leofox> I didnt even say anything for 10 minutes or so
[21:18:19] < _krisk_> pretty sure anything that doesnt access vram is going to need swap for generating such a large bitmap unless you have a huge load of ram
[21:18:22] < Leofox> looks like he even deleted his ticalc accounts
[21:18:36] < _krisk_> that time of the month again
[21:18:43] < moko|586> chronomex: You could figure out the bytestream and write teh PNG yourself :)
[21:18:48] < chronomex> I don't need all the pixels to be writable, I just need to make a huge-dimensioned image
[21:18:52] < chronomex> haha
[21:18:54] < chronomex> I could
[21:18:57] <@Andy_J> that's probably the only way to do it
[21:19:09] < _krisk_> cant you just download huge6.jpg
[21:19:20] < chronomex> or I could do this with gimp: 1 x 262144 pixels
[21:19:39] < moko|586> what exactly are you trying to do?
[21:19:51] < chronomex> drive off hotlinkers on myspace
[21:20:04] <@Andy_J> rewrite it into goatse
[21:20:12] < chronomex> could do that
[21:20:16] <@Andy_J> that's more fun
[21:20:20] < chronomex> and xanga
[21:20:38] < chronomex> specifically http://www.xanga.com/postsecret_graphics
[21:21:33] < moko|586> hmm... Andy_J has an idea :)
[21:22:34] < _krisk_> whats so bad about hotlinking that?
[21:22:44] < chronomex> nothing really
[21:24:19] < chronomex> just sort of cheeses me off
[21:24:41] < chronomex> hmmmm
[21:24:48] < chronomex> HMMMMMMM
[21:25:14] < chronomex> if I send js instead of an image, will IE treat it as js ?
[21:25:22] < chronomex> even in an img tag?
[21:25:54] < _krisk_> i know itll parse javascript in the image metadata
[21:26:07] < _krisk_> pretty sure that would work too
[21:26:16] < _krisk_> but only on ie
[21:26:24] < _krisk_> maybe only 6 and lower
[21:26:54] < chronomex> hwo about firefox?
[21:26:54] < chronomex> sweet
[21:28:42] < chronomex> that's good enough for me
[21:29:06] < chronomex> if I serve an image to a private myspace page, can the js harvest the page and send it back to me somehow?
[21:29:43] < chronomex> or is the script restricted from that sort of tomfoolery?
[21:29:50] < _krisk_> jup that should be possible
[21:29:57] < Leofox> I once saw a guy use a javascript as an image, it seemed like the server parsed it as JS no matter the client
[21:30:07] < _krisk_> send by the means of calling a script on your server with parameters that the script can parse for information
[21:30:21] < _krisk_> iow xss or cross-site scripting
[21:30:23] < chronomex> right
[21:30:28] < chronomex> awesome :)
[21:30:33] < Tahben> prepend goatse.
[21:30:55] < i_c-Y> lulz chronomex is a stalker
[21:31:06] < chronomex> i_c-Y: no, I'm an ass
[21:31:18] < chronomex> hm
[21:31:22] < chronomex> how about taking user actions?
[21:31:32] < _krisk_> user actions?
[21:31:33] < chronomex> if I can read the page, can I have it delete their profile?
[21:31:41] < chronomex> take action as them
[21:31:48] < Leofox> on hyves you can read private pages as googlebot
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[21:31:59] < Leofox> so often you can use the google cache to get the required info
[21:32:03] < _krisk_> i suppose it could call links and simmilate mouseclicks and stuff
[21:32:12] < chronomex> Leofox: sometimes yes
[21:32:28] < Leofox> maybe you can disguise your client as googlebot?
[21:32:31] < _krisk_> the real beauty is google search spiders following get based delete links in admin systems
[21:32:48] < _krisk_> "Drop Database? Yes/NO" googelbot follows yes link -> lulz
[21:33:16] < Leofox> I think you can disguise your firefox as googlebot
[21:33:27] < _krisk_> yeah that used to work for porn sites :o
[21:33:27] < chronomex> _krisk_: source for this info?  where can I read about this on line?
[21:33:28] < chronomex> as in, what filed in the image
[21:33:55] < _krisk_> im not sure what "filed in the image" means but its just general cross-site scripting info
[21:34:03] < chronomex> field argh
[21:34:31] < _krisk_> i knew a site once with flash video demonstrations
[21:34:39] < _krisk_> think it was the comment field though im not really sure it matters
[21:34:52] < _krisk_> i can look it up if you want, nothing to do
[21:35:05] < _krisk_> if im lucky
[21:35:30] < chronomex> cool, that'd be nice
[21:35:35] < i_c-Y> my opera is disguised as a googlebot
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[21:35:41] <@efneTI92> [Spengo] En Taro Adun, Executor
[21:37:41] < _krisk_> http://milw0rm.com/video/?start=30
[21:39:05] < _krisk_> think it was the "XSS injection in image formats // Taking advantages on it" one
[21:39:29] < chronomex> k
[21:40:55] < chronomex> awesome, thanks
[21:41:30] < _krisk_> that assortment of pics is awesome
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[21:45:06] < _krisk_> i remember encountering that xanga page last year following a link from shroomery.org about graffiti and meaningfull messages
[21:46:40] < chronomex> yeah, it's awesome except that they've given me about 5000 hits on a 200k jpeg
[21:47:13] < _krisk_> hehe shroomery rocks
[21:47:24] < _krisk_> brb shower
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[21:59:32] < Tahben> I am one big bag of fail today. In addition to today's failures, I can't get the baby gate that goes to my bedroom open.
[21:59:56] < Spengo> so step over
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[22:00:30] < Tahben> Haha, that was almost funny.
[22:01:26] < Spengo> hey, I was providing helpful advice
[22:01:29] < Spengo> think out of the box
[22:01:42] < Spengo> maybe you don't *need* to get the baby gate open to enter your room
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[22:03:15] < Tahben> I don't need to go in my room really.
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[22:15:52] <@efneTI92> [Tari] Remember, remember the 5th of November
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[23:29:09] <@efneTI92> [Spengo\__] En Taro Adun, Executor
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[23:49:06] <+TheStorm> sudo stab xubuntu wireless drivers
[23:49:15] < jib> heh
[23:50:33] < jib> in soviet russia, xubuntu stabs YOU!!
[23:51:06] <+patz2009> no, in soviet russia, xubuntu sudo stabs you.
[23:51:49] < jib> but what if it was already root
[23:53:52] <@E-J> there is no root in ubuntu systems by default
[23:54:09] < jib> yeah there is, you just can't log in as it
[23:54:19] < jib> but if you run 'sudo su' then you get a root shell
[23:55:43] <+TheStorm> IDk all I know is the driver for my wireless card fails
[23:56:16] <+TheStorm> i guess usb wireless dongle but w.e
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